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March 16, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Jussie Smollett To Be RELEASED, Judge Agrees To Let Him Out Of Jail w/Terry Schilling
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Jesse Smollett will soon be a free man.
Court has agreed that he is, that he should be released.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because he's appealing, and he would be in jail, well, he would get out of jail, actually, after the appeals process ended.
So, it all seems all just so silly.
But this is the reality we live in.
We also have this BLM activist who's been indicted on 18 different felony charges for fraud, along with her husband, so we'll talk about that.
Disney workers are going to be protesting the parental rights and education bill, which makes no sense.
As it turns out, the majority of Americans actually support the content, the core of this bill.
Of course, we also have stuff happening in Ukraine, so we'll be talking about that as well.
Unfortunately, tonight Ian is sick and will not be joining us.
But joining us to talk about this and much more is Terry Shilling.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
terry schilling
Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Tim.
Terry Schilling, president of American Principals Project.
We are the NRA but for families, so we don't do guns, we do families.
We helped start the anti-transgender sports fight.
We started spending a lot of money on campaign ads attacking politicians who were wanting to put boys and girls sports.
And what do you know?
The American people are against that in a big way.
We've been working in the states.
We've passed pro-women's sports legislation in 11 states now.
Iowa's the most recent one.
And now that fight's kind of evolving into something even bigger.
So we're really happy.
It's really necessary.
Cool.
tim pool
Let's talk about that stuff, too, along with everything else.
We've got Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, very excited to be here.
I think this is going to be a great conversation.
An NRA for families.
Yeah, this idea that we would actually have a lobby for the family, which is the building block of society.
Unbelievable.
That's so novel to us.
But thank you for the work you're doing.
I'm interested in asking you some questions about it.
My name is Seamus Coghlan.
I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We animate educational cartoons and political satire.
Every Thursday we have a cartoon coming out tomorrow about how Basically, the industrial military complex is constantly trying to use World War II nostalgia to get us involved in new conflicts.
I think it's pretty funny, and you guys will like it, so go over there, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and we'll have that up tomorrow.
lydia smith
And I am no excuse for Ian.
We will miss his input, definitely, for sure.
We'll just carry on in his memory, and I'll try to come up with something wild and crazy in the meantime.
tim pool
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Now, let's jump into that first story.
Breaking news!
Court orders Jussie Smollett released from jail during his appeal after just six days in prison.
Disgraced Empire actor Jussie Smollett will be released after serving just six days.
Judges sided with his lawyers, who argued that he would be finished with his sentence before the appeals process was complete.
He was sentenced to 150 days after being convicted of five felony counts of disorderly conduct for falsely reporting a racist and homophobic attack in 2019.
Smollett could have served just 75 days with good behavior.
He had been kept in psychiatric care in a restraint bed in the Cook County Jail.
Yikes, man.
So as many of you are probably aware, he started yelling, I'm not suicidal over and over again, which made many of us believe that he was.
And we did mention this briefly on the show.
We mentioned it last time a little bit.
My view, and I think this is what you're saying, we agree.
He was actually suicidal.
And by saying he wasn't, he was hoping that people would think it was a conspiracy.
Cause I gotta, I gotta be honest.
His, his life's over.
It's been over.
He's a joke.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's what I said on air a couple of days ago when we first talked about the story.
Granted, it's just speculation.
We have no idea what his motives are, but it sounded to me like it was at least possible that this is something a person who's planning on killing themselves would say if they were a complete egomaniac who wanted people to think that there was some kind of conspiracy behind it.
terry schilling
There's something sociopathic about this guy.
I mean, when you have someone that's able to literally, like, cry on demand and go into great detail about the entire hoax.
And I think this is really tragic, this whole news story, right?
Because it's setting an example.
The whole point of punishing these people is to show society what happens when you do something like this.
And so, he gets out of jail now after six days.
There's going to be a lot more hoaxes.
And I think that might actually be deliberate on the left's part, right?
Like, they don't want these hoaxes to go away.
tim pool
There was a tweet from, I think it was Matt Walsh, and he had a bunch of tweets from like him and Andy Ngo.
And he was basically saying that he couldn't, you know, in almost every circumstance, these hate crimes where someone spray paints something, they turn out to be hoaxes.
And then he shows this story in four parts, you know, quote tweets from Andy Ngo, him, and some other person.
And you know, he says, I can't recall a single moment.
It may have been Andy Ngo said this, in recent memory of one of these turning out to be real,
someone responded with, you should pay attention because this happened at Emory and then post a
link. And then Andy Ngo is like, the guy who did that was a black, the guy who wrote the graffiti
and the racial slurs was actually a black guy. So I got to be honest. Yeah, the only, the only
instance I can think of that was, was not a hoax was like some kids in New York use sidewalk chalk
and made swastikas and that was it.
And it was like some little kids, so there was no real like direct attack on a store or a person.
I'm like, no, I think that one was like actually, maybe I'm wrong about that.
But there was that story I remember that was a former NFL player had a pizza shop and like a chicken shop and then they were they were doing really bad so he just ransacked them and spray-painted racial slurs and then you know.
terry schilling
It happens and the thing about these little kids I remember in high school my friends would prank me by drawing swastikas on my notebook.
I'm not kidding.
And we had this whole thing of just turn it into windows.
Little kids can't comprehend Nazism.
They don't understand the gravity of the Holocaust and how terrible it was.
And so they prank each other with that.
It's usually either a really terrible prank from someone that's super immature or a total hoax where someone's trying to get more attention or get away with fraud.
tim pool
I think it's people just trying to get attention.
How many churches have been vandalized?
I mean, you've probably seen these stories, right?
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
They'll put racial slurs in the parking lot and then it was just like, it was someone from the church backstaging a hoax.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, I mean, it's disgusting stuff.
I'm sure a couple years ago, you guys remember there was this story at Mizzou and within one of the bathroom stalls, someone had drawn a swastika using fecal matter.
And we were told that this was a neo-Nazi attack.
And so first of all, extremely unbalanced, mentally ill person to draw anything with fecal matter.
But somebody who's actually a Nazi is not going to depict their sacred, cherished symbol with human crap.
tim pool
Right, right.
seamus coughlin
But the conclusion oh my goodness.
This is a hate crime It was very bizarre instead of like wow what a bizarre disgusting thing to do it was this is white supremacy Yeah, it's hard sometimes waking up and being like oh, that's the news again.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Yes, it keeps happening Yeah, these stories and and it's it's remarkable that you know, what really is just It's kind of depressing.
Jesse Smollett's being released.
You know, we thought we got him.
We got him.
He was arrested.
He was caught.
We knew it.
He goes through trial.
He is mocked and ridiculed.
More evidence comes out.
It seems like a clear-cut, slam-dunk case.
Finally convicted.
Then we await sentencing and we're like, please, just for once, lock one of these people up.
And they're like, okay.
We let him out six days later.
terry schilling
Well, what are you taking out?
What are you offering odds on that he gets another, like another acting gig?
Hollywood's going to take him back.
I mean, I would take one to one odds on that.
tim pool
Really?
Definitely.
seamus coughlin
I wouldn't be shocked.
tim pool
One to one odds?
terry schilling
Yeah, or one to one.
I would take one-to-one odds that he gets some type of new TV deal or music.
He'll come and repair his image.
This is what they do.
He'll have a whole apology tour, right?
He'll come out and say he was sorry, he realized what he did and how bad it was, and then he starts making millions again.
tim pool
Doesn't one-to-one mean that you'd put up money and win nothing if you were right?
terry schilling
No, no, no, I mean a dollar for a dollar, right?
So I, uh, plus 100.
So that's two to one though, isn't it?
No, no, no.
Two to one is I put up a dollar and if I win, you pay me two bucks.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Okay.
Yeah, I think you're right.
lydia smith
Sorry.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
I haven't been in the casino in long enough.
It's been actually a couple weeks.
Yeah.
So you think so?
I kind of thought his career was over.
I mean, he's a laughingstock.
terry schilling
In a non-clown world, I think.
I think it's over, but we live in clown world.
unidentified
That's true!
seamus coughlin
I mean, and also, so I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with Brian Peck, but he was convicted, I believe, of raping a child, and he was brought back to work at Disney after he served his sentence.
So, Oh no, I'm sorry.
So yeah, ABC slash Disney hires convicted child molester Brian Peck to work on children's TV show one year after he's released from prison.
So the idea that they're above hiring Jesse Smollett is... Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
And they gave, you know, was it Roman Polanski?
Oh, yeah.
And who's the other guy?
Who's the other guy?
What's his face?
terry schilling
The newer guy, right?
Who was joking about pedophilia on Twitter?
seamus coughlin
No, no, no.
tim pool
The other guy with the glasses.
lydia smith
Oh, I can't remember.
tim pool
What's his name?
He's a famous, famous guy?
lydia smith
Famous guy with glasses?
I don't know.
tim pool
Director, producer, whatever.
terry schilling
Steven Spielberg.
tim pool
No, no, no.
lydia smith
I don't know enough about movies and stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't know.
But yeah, like with Whoopi Goldberg, they brought her right back.
And I'm still flabbergasted by the fact that Andrew Gillum is still a name in political circles after what happened with him.
Absolutely insane.
tim pool
Is he really?
lydia smith
He's still around.
Yeah, he's rehabbing his image.
He's repairing his marriage after that.
tim pool
That's why that's why sometimes that's why I say I wake up and I see the news and I'm just like, how about we go and talk about, you know, Donut Factory instead?
Because it's it's it's just I'm sick of how do people believe this stuff at this point?
How do how do we how do we sit back and allow these kind of things to happen?
You know, it's just kind of mind-numbing.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, you know Ian mentioned this the other day that I'd said to him the way I define elite is as a person who's never gonna face any consequences for their actions and we see that in the case of Jesse Smollett.
He was sentenced but then he's let go after serving six days.
So honestly, I guess those are more harsh consequences than a lot of other people we would consider elite would ever end up facing but we shouldn't be surprised that he's let go because what he did was try to forward the narrative that they're constantly trying to promote in the media.
tim pool
Woody Allen.
terry schilling
Racist Woody Allen.
tim pool
Didn't he do something?
terry schilling
With his daughter or something.
There was something really screwed up with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
People are mentioning James Gunn too.
Yeah, but James Gunn was trying to be an edgelord and failing.
He thought he was posting, you know, obscene jokes about children would be funny and people were like, bro, that's gross stuff.
Don't do that.
So it's different if you think you're being edgy, you know, and it's not, and it's bad.
Like, I'll be like, bro, that was bad.
Don't do it again.
terry schilling
I think that's right.
tim pool
But, you know, like Roman and Woody and Jussie Smollett.
unidentified
Yeah, that's kind of like, yo, those people shouldn't be welcome back in this place.
terry schilling
Yeah.
tim pool
That's cancel culture.
Jussie Smollett should be canceled.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Well, this is hilarious because every single time anyone on the right points out that a person has done something terrible, the left goes, I thought you were against cancel culture, as if that's any kind of point against our argument that you shouldn't comb through someone's tweets from 12 years ago and then try to cancel them because they said men are men.
tim pool
That race car driver's dad, who's had the Edward in the 80s, and so sponsors canceled him.
seamus coughlin
That's so insane.
terry schilling
Some things should be canceled, right?
Like there's a reason why we have laws in prison and like some things should have a stigma to them.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think the problem is it always comes back to this one issue where it's just, you know, institutions and even conservatives take these people seriously.
And I'm just like, why?
Stop contracting with them.
Stop working with them.
Stop servicing them.
Stop hiring them.
Stop being hired by them.
Just tell these unserious people to go away.
Like if I, there was a comic book store, like a game shop, and I see the big BLM fist, I keep walking.
And I'm like, I look up on Google and it's like, we sell Magic the Gathering cards and comic books.
I'm like, I'm going to go check it out.
And I show up and I see a big sign in the window and I just turn right back around, get my car and leave.
I'll order it online, dude.
I'm not going to give any service to these unserious, psychotic cultists.
Just, just no, I'm sorry.
These are the, these people are the reason Jussie Smollett gets away with this.
These are the people who cheered for every single hoax every time.
terry schilling
They always fall for it.
And it's not even that they're falling for it.
No, no, no.
It's part of the plan, right?
seamus coughlin
Well, no, no.
Continue, continue.
But I have a point I want to make about falling for it.
terry schilling
No, I just think it's part of their plan.
They want division.
They want chaos.
They don't, they want us withdrawing from society and not participating, right?
And I think that it's really important not to fall trap to that, but also to figure out
how to not support them and give them legitimacy.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so it's interesting because I think you're right that they don't fall for it because
to them it does not matter whether something is true or false.
What matters is whether it maps under their ideological worldview because then in some subjective sense it's poetically true so it's okay for them to promote it and it forwards their goal which is overall good and noble.
The people who fall for it are the conservatives who don't immediately say this sounds ridiculous and it's probably BS because we're afraid that there's some slight possibility that it's a true story and we don't want to be labeled racist the one time it may have actually happened.
tim pool
You know what I think?
I actually, I agree with you.
I don't know if Jesse Smollett is going to get work, right?
So they're gonna let him out of jail.
Maybe his appeal just fails and he goes back to jail.
They're saying it's only gonna be 75 days.
So, you know, two and a half months with good behavior.
I don't know if he gets rehired to act, but I would actually be willing to bet That he would get a reality TV show following the saga.
I mean, people will watch it.
terry schilling
Why not a CNN gig?
seamus coughlin
Or MSNBC?
terry schilling
I mean, that's how fundamentally unserious those networks are.
tim pool
I don't know about CNN.
I think it would be interesting to see them bring him on because he's friends with Don Lemon.
But they, you know, CNN, as bad as they are, they don't want to, you know, punch holes purposefully in their ship if it sinks.
But hold on, look, you know, what A&E or AMC or whatever, what's the channel that does the weird?
lydia smith
A&E?
tim pool
A&E.
Yeah, they're gonna be like Justice Millette reality show and it's gonna be him sitting down and be like,
I didn't do this, I gotta call my lawyer and they're gonna follow him around.
People would watch that because they hate him.
So that's his opportunity and he's gonna, I just, he's gonna write a book.
seamus coughlin
If I did it.
Yeah, exactly, he's gonna do, if I did it, he's gonna have this whole OJ tour.
He's gonna like, he's gonna go find the real hoaxer.
Yeah.
I think that you guys are underestimating how good of an actor Jesse is.
He's just gonna slip into a new life somewhere, become a different person, and he's just gonna blend in wherever he is because he's so talented that way.
And then there's gonna be some beloved celebrity 20 years from now who everyone worships and he's gonna go It was I all along!
Jussie!
And I fooled you with my incredible acting skill.
tim pool
Isn't it crazy though?
I mean, look at when he went on, uh, was it ABC?
How he- was it ABC he did the interview?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think it was 60 Minutes or something.
tim pool
60 Minutes.
He manufactures perfectly these tears.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
This performance.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's what I'm saying.
tim pool
He is one of the greatest actors.
seamus coughlin
Of all time.
tim pool
Of all time, yes.
seamus coughlin
That was the whole thing.
I mean, the whole thing was a demo tape for him.
tim pool
He comes out and he's like, I want to admit that I staged the whole thing and the court, the trial, that was the performance.
seamus coughlin
That was the performance.
tim pool
I'll be in jail.
I'll be out in two months.
Call my agent.
seamus coughlin
Very avant-garde piece of art.
tim pool
Do you remember when Joaquin Phoenix did that thing?
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
He, like, quit acting and then started rapping and everyone was like, what is he doing?
What's happening?
And then it turned out that it was a big stunt.
unidentified
Yep.
I remember that.
tim pool
That's probably just his best bet.
It was a big stunt!
seamus coughlin
I was just joshing, you guys.
tim pool
I was joshing around.
unidentified
Alright.
seamus coughlin
I wasn't serious.
tim pool
He'd probably go to jail for a lot longer if he said that.
Can you imagine?
seamus coughlin
I don't think so.
I don't think he's ever going to see prison time.
tim pool
No, I think actually if he admitted that he did it and it was a hoax and he did it for acting, he'd get less time.
seamus coughlin
He'd get an Oscar, bro.
tim pool
No, he would get less time in jail because he's getting 150 days Even though he's refusing to admit what he did was wrong.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
He's still denying it.
So they're, you know, they're giving him that penalty.
The idea is there's something called the trial tax.
You go to trial, you get a harsher penalty because the idea is really that you're wasting the court's time, so they punish you.
But the idea is supposed to be that you haven't learned your lesson, so you need more time in jail.
seamus coughlin
Well, and then, to put it cynically, the other idea is if we make people feel more afraid to go to trial, then we can just sentence people for crimes without actually having to give them their day in court.
tim pool
Yeah, so they'll pick him back up.
Maybe.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, at the very least, it's not something we would ever put past them.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Isn't it depressing, though?
seamus coughlin
I guess.
If you ever had any hope in Hollywood, I suppose.
terry schilling
Or the legal system.
tim pool
That's fair.
terry schilling
But it's also Chicago.
unidentified
I mean, I'm from Illinois, so it's... As are we.
tim pool
It is an interesting place.
It would just be so funny if it turns out that this really did happen and the cops staged all the evidence to like...
You know, just make him look bad.
seamus coughlin
It's like the worst white supremacist hate crime that's ever taken place in all of history.
tim pool
Turns out that the two white dudes who attacked Jesse were actually, like, off-duty cops.
seamus coughlin
Goes all the way up to Trump.
Even higher.
Goes all the way up to Putin.
tim pool
And it actually is Manga Country, and we just... We're making fun of this poor guy.
seamus coughlin
No one tells you this, but Cook County, very red.
Very, very red.
terry schilling
Incredibly red.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
Deep red.
tim pool
Cook County?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
It's just a city, right?
seamus coughlin
Extremely red.
No, it's a little bit outside of the city.
Some of the suburbs are Cook County.
tim pool
Well, Illinois itself is red.
Just, you go to Chicago.
unidentified
It's true.
seamus coughlin
Well, who is it that said there are no, uh, there are no red or no blue states, only blue cities?
Yeah.
terry schilling
That's right.
tim pool
That's true.
And there are red cities, which is interesting.
But the interesting thing about Chicago is that it's not even blue.
It's zombie.
You have, like Illinois, growing up in Chicago, you have the zombie contingent and the Republican contingent.
And Republicans, you know, they can vary from very ignorant to very knowledgeable.
But the people in the cities who are voting Democrat are the zombie contingent, 99%.
And that's what I grew up around, people who are just like, vote blue no matter who.
And I'm like, who are you voting for?
No, don't care, as long as it's not a Republican.
And I'm like, the city has been run by Democrats for 80 plus years, and it's worse than ever.
seamus coughlin
No, it's doing really well.
tim pool
Just worse than ever.
And it's funny, too, because we used to have... Do you guys know what elotes is?
It's like, on the south side of Chicago, these guys pull up with carts full of corn.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
Yeah, they'll take the corn, and they put mayonnaise, parmesan, and cayenne pepper on it, and you eat it.
unidentified
So good.
tim pool
Or, I would always have them, they cut the corn off into a cup and mix it with mayonnaise, parmesan, and cayenne, and they had it to you, it was like a dollar.
They got banned in our neighborhood.
terry schilling
Terrible.
tim pool
But only, like, they couldn't cross Cicero on the south side, because when you crossed... So this is the fascinating thing about the Midway area.
From, like, Harlem to Cicero, which is a few miles, from 47th to, like, 63rd was a generally white Polish immigrant and, like, whiter area.
When you crossed 47th to the north side, it was all black community, all black housing.
When you crossed Cicero, it became all, like, Latino.
So the city for some reason banned the Elotes guys from coming into our neighborhood,
but they couldn't cross Cicero. And that was the weirdest thing to us because we were like,
so the guys who sell corn who are Hispanic can stay in the Hispanic neighborhood,
but we like the corn. We love those guys. They took it away from us.
It's almost like they wanted the segregation in that city.
terry schilling
Yes.
And here's the funny thing is there are certain things that break down cultural divides, right?
Like it's food, it's music, it's movies, literature.
And I do think there's something to that.
This whole anti-cultural appropriation thing is really meant to keep us from participating in other
cultures and being open to it and breaking down those barriers.
Like Cinco de Mayo is a great holiday because everyone likes tacos.
And it's not denigrating to the Mexican community to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.
It's a good thing to participate.
Catholics are really good about this.
We take over and baptize all these pagan holidays and make them ours.
It's beautiful.
tim pool
That's colonization.
seamus coughlin
And we're not giving them back.
terry schilling
Ever.
seamus coughlin
Ever.
tim pool
Not even Christmas.
seamus coughlin
That's what we're told.
tim pool
Not even Christmas.
seamus coughlin
Which I didn't know.
I've had people tell me that.
They're like, you know when you worship Easter, you're worshipping a fertility goddess?
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Wow, interesting.
seamus coughlin
I didn't know that.
But I guess you know better than me what I'm doing.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's surprising.
tim pool
You didn't realize that you didn't catch yourself when you were praying that you were actually saying fertility goddess?
seamus coughlin
I know, it's crazy.
tim pool
It's like you were saying those words.
seamus coughlin
But yeah, no, it's true that there are a lot of things from other cultures that can be sanctified, and people from different cultures are able to relate to each other.
And part of the problem is because racial tensions are so high, and we have really stoked the flames of genuine hatred along ethnic lines, people are afraid not only to participate in other people's cultures, but to even engage in humor that might be targeted towards other groups, even in a more playful way.
And I find it interesting because I think you see this happen sometimes.
Every now and again, you'll meet that couple who make jokes about each other, but you can tell it's in like kind of a stabby sort of way.
They're really being sort of, uh, crass and snide to each other and it's very painful for everyone who's there.
But then you have some couples who can kind of poke fun at each other and it's really funny and everyone enjoys it.
I think what happens is, as a relationship between two people or a group of people breaks down, humor goes from something which can be cherished and which is very endearing and helps bring them together, and it turns into something really insulting.
And the same exact joke can be really funny coming from a person who you have a good relationship with, or really offensive coming from someone who you don't.
And so I think breaking down racial relations, people ask why everything's so PC.
I think a huge part of it is we just don't trust each other.
tim pool
I was just thinking about the cultural appropriation stuff and the protests.
Remember that video where the girl at prom or whatever, she wore the... Chinese dress?
Yeah, what is it called?
lydia smith
A kimono?
tim pool
No, that's Japanese.
It was a Chinese thing.
People in the chat will tell us what it was called, so I'm forgetting.
And then people in China were like, that's cool.
They actually really liked it.
And I thought about, I was thinking about this.
There's also the video where the guy's got dreads and the black girl like literally grabs him and she's like, you're stealing my culture.
And he's like, what are you talking about?
And then I'm like, how come these people never protest Taco Bell?
Why don't they show up to Panda Express?
seamus coughlin
Well, also as if, like, there's one ethnic group that just owns dreadlocks.
Right.
tim pool
That's not true, though.
I mean, the Vikings had it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
That's my point.
tim pool
And, you know, I know a bunch of people in Scandinavian countries who have dreadlocks because of, like, they had dreadlocks.
But it's like, people have hair, dude!
terry schilling
Right.
tim pool
People can do what they want to their hair.
You don't own hairstyles.
seamus coughlin
That's our do.
tim pool
Can't do that to your hair.
seamus coughlin
Intellectual property.
tim pool
Yo, yo, Taco Bell bears no resemblance to actual Mexican food.
terry schilling
That's exactly right.
tim pool
Hard shell tacos.
Burritos?
Burritos aren't a Mexican thing.
And cheddar cheese?
What's going on here?
terry schilling
That nacho cheese is not cheese!
It's powder cheese!
tim pool
Panda Express.
Now I'll tell you.
Taco Bell is delicious.
It's almost worth the bottle obstruction.
Panda Express is also delicious.
But man, they're just chunks of sugary fried chicken.
But it's good.
But I'm not going to pretend it's actually Chinese food.
You know, Thai food in this country is a sugary, fatty, Americanized version.
The same thing with like all of these different foods.
And you know what?
People love it.
So if these people want to go, oh, cultural appropriation is wrong.
Stop ordering Pad Thai on Grubhub.
I know you're doing it because it's like the number one food on Grubhub or it's in the top five or whatever.
Pizza, it's Italian.
What gives you the right?
No one's protesting these things.
seamus coughlin
You know what, you ever notice that no one ever starts an Irish food chain?
tim pool
Like an Irish food fast food chain?
seamus coughlin
It's so terrible!
That's not like a large national thing, you know?
You don't have it in every- you don't have a bunch of them in every single city or state.
tim pool
We have Scottish.
seamus coughlin
We wish some people would appropriate that part of- honestly, no, I'm glad that- Why don't you make O'Donald's?
Oh my gosh, that's the thing.
McDonald's, it's an Irish name, and you go in there and it's like, this is not Irish food.
No, it's MC.
It's when it's M-A-C, it's Scottish.
tim pool
When I went to the UK, they told me it was Scottish.
seamus coughlin
What did those Brits say to you?
They were gonna tell you more colonizer lies about Ireland?
unidentified
And you're gonna believe them, bro?
seamus coughlin
Are you serious right now?
Learn your history.
tim pool
Look it up, I think you're wrong.
seamus coughlin
Oh, maybe.
I hope not.
Because if we lose McDonald's, we have nothing left.
tim pool
In the United States, I often have like a stupid dad joke where I tell people and they're like, what do you want to get?
And I'll be like, do you guys want to get Irish food?
They'll be like, oh yeah, it's a good place to make McDonald's.
unidentified
That's good.
tim pool
And everyone laughs.
I did that in the UK and they all looked at me and they were like, that's Scottish.
And I was like, no, no, it's MC.
And they were like, oh, is Irish.
MC is Scottish.
And I was like, is it?
seamus coughlin
That's not true.
No, MC is Irish.
McNamara is my mother's maiden name, and they're all from Ireland.
Those Brits lied to you!
tim pool
Those Brits lied to you.
seamus coughlin
Of course they did.
tim pool
All right, well, let's talk about the next lie.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
tim pool
We got the story from the New York Post.
Boston social justice activist and husband scammed at least $185,000 from donors, so saith the feds.
They're being hit with, I think it's 18 different charges, federal charges.
They say a high-profile social justice activist in Boston and her husband used a non-profit they founded to scam at least $185,000 from donors who included a Black Lives Matter chapter and the local DA's office, federal authorities allege Monica Cannon Grant and Clark Grant allegedly treated their violence in Boston organization as a personal piggy bank to pay for rent, shopping sprees, delivery meals, visits to a nail salon, summer vacation trip to Maryland.
I heard that they were going to bubblegum shrimp.
That was one of the things that was heavily reported.
They're going to mention the following year she was named Best Social Justice Advocate by Boston Magazine and one of the Boston Globe's Bostonians of the Year.
When will people stop falling for this stuff?
Should we run through the list again?
Should we run through the list?
The Trayvon Martin story.
What was the initial report?
That a white guy saw a black kid and then attacked him and killed him, shot him.
What really happened?
Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman got into a fight.
Maybe Zimmerman was in the wrong for confronting him.
He was a neighborhood watch and Trayvon Martin was walking behind houses.
Trayvon Martin had him in a ground pound position where he was on top of him and pummeling him.
And then George Zimmerman shot him in the chest and killed him.
Zimmerman's Hispanic.
We also have Michael Brown.
Hands up, don't shoot.
That was a lie.
terry schilling
That was a total lie.
seamus coughlin
Also, remember the Trayvon case?
NBC actually deceptively edited the phone call in order to make it sound like Zimmerman was describing Trayvon Martin as being up to no good because he was quote-unquote black.
They asked him, what does he look like?
He says he looks like he's up to no good.
He's wearing a black hoodie, something along those lines, and they cut it together to say he looks like he's up to no good.
Black.
terry schilling
Well, the other thing is, the whole thing was a sham with Trayvon Martin.
The picture that you saw everywhere was him when he was like 11 or 12.
And he was much, much older and much, much bigger.
They made it out like George Zimmerman beat up a 12-year-old little punk kid.
And he was much older than that.
tim pool
Jesse Smollett.
Lie.
Ahmaud Arbery story.
He was just jogging.
That was a lie.
It's just every single day there's a new lie and these people... Rittenhouse!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, the whole thing, the entire thing was that, oh, he crossed state lines and he shouldn't have that gun.
As soon as I saw the story, it was very obvious to me, and I think everyone who saw it, that this was a case of self-defense.
But then they started muddying the waters by saying he had broken gun laws or crossed state lines and maybe he was looking for trouble.
But not only could none of that be substantiated, I'm pretty sure they just made all of it up because it was so obvious that this kid was defending himself.
And then what ends up happening is people go, well, because they've muddied the waters, now we have to wait for more answers before we can really be sure and take a side, and the story loses momentum.
tim pool
At a certain point, I just, you know, every few months I say something where I'm just like, It's all the same thing every day.
We wake up, we have a new story, because I've been talking about these stories and criticizing the hoaxes going on seven or so years now.
A little bit longer, but doing the actual YouTube stuff and the podcast stuff.
And at a certain point, I'm kind of just like, what's the point of saying it if it doesn't change anything?
unidentified
No, no, no.
terry schilling
I think that's the wrong mentality.
I wouldn't lose hope.
There are a lot of people.
You're seeing the complete decentralization of how people get their information.
I was going through a lot of your episodes before coming on, and it's absolutely beautiful.
450,000 people, I mean, for the last few episodes watched your show.
That is beautiful.
tim pool
Plus clips and live viewership isn't counted in that number.
terry schilling
Exactly.
And the thing is, What you're doing is exactly right.
You are giving so many people the information that they need and you don't
need to get a hundred percent of the people. You don't even need 50%.
You need a solid 10 to 25% of Americans that are getting solid information
because those are the people that are gonna go talk to their family and friends
and make sure that they know the information.
There's like 10 to 25% of Americans are just helpless.
They're zombies.
Then like there's this 50% in the middle that are actually persuadable.
And then there's like us, right?
Like that are on the front lines, activist types.
I think you're actually doing the Lord's work here and I wouldn't lose hope.
I think there's a lot to be optimistic about.
tim pool
Maybe that's it.
Maybe, you know, what needs to happen is we're growing, we're building infrastructure, we're expanding, we're doing new shows, we're getting a new headquarters.
And then I guess what really happens is in 10 or 15 years, these cable networks won't exist anymore.
terry schilling
Exactly.
tim pool
You wanna know what's crazy?
And this is no dig, I'm a big fan of It's Always Sunny, but I heard that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia had a new season out.
You guys have heard of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, right?
It's now the longest-running live-action comedy series, I guess.
So how many viewers do you think this show got?
Yeah, on their seventh season on average.
How many people watched one episode?
seamus coughlin
At the premiere?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
tim pool
No, no, no, not the premiere.
Just like throughout the season on average.
How many people do you think watched an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
seamus coughlin
I'm going to pretend I'm not Googling it.
No, no, no.
terry schilling
Tell me what you think.
unidentified
500,000.
seamus coughlin
Duck, duck, go.
tim pool
So it was about, I think the premiere episode of season seven was like 2 million.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And then they would get like 1.3 to 1.5 million per episode.
How many people do you think watch now?
50,000.
300.
300,000.
200 to 300,000 per episode.
I'm not digging on them.
I'm a fan.
I think It's Always Sunny is funny.
I don't really watch it for the most part.
I think what happens is, you know, we've launched a couple other shows.
We have the vlog.
We have Chicken City.
We have Pop Culture Crisis.
And I'm wondering if there's just cultural swings in terms of what people are interested in.
And sitcoms have just, you know, there's too many options.
So people are watching a bunch of different shows.
And also, You know, back when this show was at its peak, we didn't have this plethora of content and we didn't have this plethora of streaming services.
So what's happening is, it's not so much that people don't like the show, it's that over time, people start using technology and they start absorbing information in different ways.
So the reason I bring this up is that I think it's entirely possible and likely that within 10 or 15 years, CNN just has nothing and they're gone.
And then it doesn't matter that people believe them because there's nothing to believe anymore.
They don't exist.
However, ten years after that, this show will be outdated with limited viewership and people will be in the metaverse or who knows where.
seamus coughlin
It's all gonna be ShimCast, baby.
All ShimCast.
tim pool
You plug your brain right into the Neuralink and then Shim speaks directly into your mind.
seamus coughlin
I think what's gonna end up happening too, unfortunately, and people are gonna have to be vigilant about this, is As you have mentioned, it's very easy to covertly fund people online, so I think there are going to be a lot of people who want to promote the establishment narrative who are going to be very well funded by people from within the establishment who traditionally would have just given their money to CNN or placed advertisements on their network.
tim pool
You see it on YouTube, the favorite channels.
They're trying to prop up CNN so much to perpetuate all these lies.
Are you guys familiar with Defiant Ls?
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
I think it was Defiant Ls who had this.
So what they do is they show a tweet from someone and then they show a follow-up, which is like failure.
And it was like Brian Stelter talking about, you know, we can't just trust the cops on this Jussie Smollett thing.
You know, we got to hear it out.
And the next one is like Jussie Smollett's sentence to 100 days in jail for hate crime folks.
And it's just like, yeah, you know, you shouldn't be listening to people who are... I'll tell you this, I can give him credit for being a bit skeptical, for sure, but it's like, at some point, you kind of just say, like, we know, or we should err on the side of that was BS.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, the skepticism only ever runs in one direction.
Every single time we hear an accusation of racial hatred, we're told if we don't buy into it, hook, line, and sinker, it's because we actually just hate black people and not that we want more evidence before we jump to a conclusion.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
But when it runs in the other direction, when it's a BLM activist or Jussie Smollett hoaxing or doing something illegal or corrupt, well then we need to stop and wait for the evidence and make sure that we have all the facts straight before we comment.
tim pool
I can think of one time there was a mass campaign with racist vandalism.
It was carried out by a bunch of young white men.
It was when those white supremacists put up those flyers everywhere saying it's okay to be white.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Which it is not.
It is not.
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
It is not.
Disavow.
seamus coughlin
Disavow.
tim pool
Apparently that's the message they're sending.
It was brilliant trolling, you know?
So, you know, for those unfamiliar, I think most people know this.
It was a white sheet of paper and it just said, it's okay to be white.
And people would put the sticker on a pole and they'd be like, you're a white supremacist.
And they're like, that's crazy.
terry schilling
This is an interesting discussion I had with some of my friends, and I just want to ask you guys, do you identify as white?
unidentified
Me?
tim pool
I don't.
unidentified
But everybody knows I'm... Yeah, I'm more Catholic than anything.
tim pool
But actually, everybody knows the meme that I have second-generation mixed-race family, so we don't have that.
That's like...
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I guess there are people that are, but the idea is, it's interesting, the left says,
see the reason you don't is because you live in a world full of white people, so you're
a default.
Why would you identify with what everyone else is?
seamus coughlin
But this is the problem with that analysis.
Firstly, it's entirely uncritical.
It's not actually looking at specific ethnic backgrounds.
So Irish people and other ethnicities, which were generally more Catholic, as a matter of fact, such as the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, were not considered white, even though we had white skin.
So I see whiteness, quote unquote, as an identity, which has often been used to exclude Catholics.
Well, that's not something I identify with.
tim pool
That's partially what the left critical race theorists argue.
That whiteness is a political term and always has been, because there were white people who weren't white, and they actually argue now, Eastern Europeans aren't white.
Like, Luke Rutkowski, blonde hair, blue eyes, they say is a person of color.
seamus coughlin
Is not white.
Well, here's the issue.
In the United States, we have a very unique racial history as a result of slavery.
Black people, unfortunately, lost a lot of their ethnic identity because they were brought over here forcibly and were not able to retain the information on what part of Africa they came from specifically.
And I think that's become rejected onto people who we call white now, even though they would have considered themselves Irish, Polish, Italian, Dutch when they came over here.
They're thrown into an analogous category of white, even though they're more or less Identifying or had identified until much more recently with their ethnic identity rather than their racial identity Yeah, this is exactly what but this is this is one of the arguments from the left that the reason why you know There's no issue with black pride or power is because they don't have an ethnic identity.
They have a racial identity because of what you just described Yeah, whereas for a white person you could say you're proud of being Irish or Scottish or Ukrainian, but not white Yeah, but there's this kind of Mountain Valley fallacy, which they engage in, where they will try to say things like, we're only against white privilege in a system that places you on a pedestal simply because of your skin color.
We're not actually talking about your skin color specifically.
But then, how do they identify you?
Well, by your skin color, and they'll go after you and say you're bad because you're white.
So, even though I don't identify as white.
tim pool
You want to talk about white privilege?
Justice Millette.
If whiteness is political, then a millionaire celebrity Who is propped up by the media and defended when he commits a hoax, and then still has activists getting his back.
Now that's some kind of privilege.
And at what point, if whiteness is political, at what point would black people become politically white?
It's a serious question.
seamus coughlin
No, it's a good question.
Well, I mean, they will call black conservative activists white supremacists.
terry schilling
Right, right.
seamus coughlin
I mean, literally, white just means bad, and black means good.
That's how they use these terms.
terry schilling
Yeah, no, and then you have the other thing where, like, they're redefining all these terms.
Like, the ADL came out and defined racism, right, as the support of systemic racism.
Like, they use the same words to define it, which is always a really bad sign.
unidentified
Yes.
terry schilling
But basically, the only way you can be anti-racist or against racism is to support Marxism.
seamus coughlin
Yep, 100%.
That's part of the plan.
tim pool
The ADL changed the definition of racism to be about something like racial dominance or something like that and then had to change it again like a week later and apologize because something happened in a Jewish community and they were like, oh, maybe we should have thought about what we were claiming because people started saying you couldn't be racist against Jewish people or something like that and then all of a sudden the ADL was like, we better revert our definition.
seamus coughlin
They should talk to Whoopi Goldberg.
tim pool
Oh my gosh.
That whole Whoopi Goldberg scandal got just memory holes.
knows all. Apparently they used to arrest people like Tucker Carlson and Tulsi
Gabbard for, you know, pushing propaganda, which is not true.
terry schilling
That whole Whoopi Goldberg scandal got just memory holes.
unidentified
Like it's like it never even happened. Oh right.
tim pool
That's what it was, right?
The ADL, that's what happened.
She came out, that was amazing.
She said, that wasn't racist, that was just white people, you know, with white people.
And then the ADL realized, like, hmm, this whiteness definition of racism is really backfiring on, you know, like, the Jewish community.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Maybe they shouldn't have tried playing the woke game and then they realized they had to change it back.
seamus coughlin
By the way, I can't, I saw a hysterical tweet, someone called them the ADL, the Anti-Definition League.
Oh yeah, it was fantastic.
I thought that was fantastic.
tim pool
Very clever.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but I'll also say too, it's always funny when people will define racism as systemic racism specifically,
because A, I mean you lose the ability to analyze racism at the level of individual behavior,
rather than just looking at it systemically.
But on top of that, you mentioned using definitions, or using the actual word you're defining within the definition.
This is the first thing you are taught in any etymology class.
I just wonder if... If you want to define a word, you cannot use that word in the definition.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
So I don't know if... I don't know if I mentioned this on the show about the black card revoked.
We talked about that, right?
seamus coughlin
Maybe.
tim pool
The black card revoked.
We went to... I think we were in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
Was it Altoona?
Maybe not.
Yeah, I think it was.
I don't know.
Anyway, we're at an Airbnb, and they had a bunch of board games.
They had a pack of cards, and it was called Black Card Revoked.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Yeah, we talked about this with Gothics.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's right, that's right.
tim pool
It was a card game that was supposed to be, you know, it was for black people to play, and it was about black culture, and it asked questions like, what movie does every black person have in their collection?
And I thought it was racist and I'm like, man, I, but a far be it for me.
And it was, it was made and marketed by, you know, black people for black people.
So there you go, I guess.
I don't know if it's racist or not, if these things are held by, you know, to be true by them.
But one of the questions was if quote unquote, they give reparations, what should they give?
And I was like, why is they in quotes?
That's weird.
quotes is a reference to Jewish people. Because when you're referring to authorities of any power
you just say they or them. When it's put in quotes it's a specific reference to Jewish people. And so
I saw that and I was like that's kind of weird. And look I don't know I think maybe the people
who made this game are anti-Semites.
It's possible because they have ties to high-profile politicians.
We're looking at that story.
Maybe there's something there.
I don't know.
But we know that there's a lot of prominent Black Lives Matter activists that are deeply anti-Semitic.
We saw this with the Women's March.
These individuals were forced to resign because they were pushing insane conspiracy theories about the Jewish people.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, look, if you tell people that any time a group of people is successful, it's because they're stealing something from you, they're going to look at every successful group of people and say they're stealing something from us.
I don't know why anyone thought that that would start and end with white people.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I can't stand the, uh, just, like, the general anti-Semitic, like... So, anti-Semitism in general is annoying to me because it's the same CRT argument.
A privileged group of people dominate.
I'm like, get out of here, dude.
Like, any...
Look, I know there are CEOs of big companies and in media who are not of a particular ethnic background.
It can be anybody who works hard and succeeds.
It's weird that people are like, I noticed there's a whole lot of one group of people in this industry that proves it.
And I'm like, dude, that's a privilege argument.
That's a ridiculous argument.
I'm not playing that game.
terry schilling
Well, and if you know, I have friends who are Orthodox Jews, and the reason that they have influence and that they are successful is because they have such a strong community.
tim pool
Family?
terry schilling
It's family.
It's their friends.
They are so tight-knit.
They help pay for each other's kids' tuition at school.
I wish that Catholics had a community similar to that because it's so strong and it's admirable, really.
seamus coughlin
I would get in there, honestly, though.
I'm seeing it in a lot of places with Catholics.
tim pool
The annoying thing to me about antisemitism, be it from BLM or from white supremacist groups or whatever, It's like, right now in New York, we've had this ongoing problem where Hasidic Jews are being chased down and brutally beaten.
And I'm just like, where is the great power structure to intervene and tell the police to actually deal with this hate that's happening on the streets?
But they don't.
Why?
Because the people who run New York Also are deeply anti-semitic.
terry schilling
Right.
tim pool
So I mean, it's like, you know, it's not Bill de Blasio anymore, but that dude is a far leftist who probably held all of these same insane beliefs.
And so this idea that one group has privilege over the others.
Yeah, sometimes some groups do, but I think the real issue is merit.
Merit, drive, and a little bit of luck sprinkled on top.
Chance favors the prepared.
But for the most part, if you are smart and you work really, really hard, you'll become successful.
But ultimately, we've talked about this before when it comes to why you see a high propensity of successful Jewish individuals.
Could it be family?
We know that family is a key indicator of success, regardless of your religious background.
terry schilling
As you were saying with the Catholics and... Well, no, but family is everything, right?
Like Lydia and I were talking about this before the show.
Family is why you get a job.
Family is why you go to work.
Family is why you love your country and why you go to war and you're willing to die in it so that your kids and your grandkids can have a good life.
Like, family drives everything.
And like, it's like the social science on this is so boring because it's so predictable, right?
Like kids raised in a loving household with parents that take them to church on Sunday.
are always the best-performing group.
They commit less crime, they don't commit suicide, they don't get addicted to drugs.
It's all very boring, and it's all basic.
And, you know, the Jewish community has, like, really figured that out.
tim pool
Are you familiar with the Blue Zones?
terry schilling
No.
tim pool
It's where there's, like, seven areas of the planet where people have a life expectancy that exceeds 100, or where there's, like, the highest propensity towards having people live over 100.
And so some researchers went to these areas to figure out what do they have in common that may contribute to people living to be over 100.
And there's some interesting things like they eat only till they're about 85% full.
They don't overeat.
But one of the most interesting things is they all have a job.
So they talked to this one, he's a Japanese guy, and he's like 102, and he's chopping wood.
And they're like, why are you doing this?
Shouldn't you be relaxing and be retired?
And he's like, well, if I don't do it, who will?
Someone's got to get the wood, and it was for his community and for his family.
Community and family was another big part of it.
They're very close-knit and tight-knit families and communities.
And the reason he had to chop the wood was because he needed to make sure everybody had this available, and if he didn't, no one else would.
I was also reading that The biggest spike in when deaths occur is right after retirement.
So I think people need to understand how important purpose is in a human's life.
Without purpose, people become dejected, depressed, and violent, like we see with so many young people these days.
And with purpose, we see a lot of people living to be over 100 years old.
terry schilling
Yep, that's right.
And actually, there's a lot of studies that have come out over the last few decades that show the benefits of not just having children for your mental health down the road, but super old people, when they're around their grandkids a lot, their cognitive ability, they can reverse parts of dementia.
and erosion in the brain.
It's really cool stuff and I think you're right.
It's about duty, it's about responsibility, it's about purpose, because when you lose that,
like so many people when they retire, my great-grandmother lived to be 95
and she didn't really start to fall apart until she got out of her daily routine.
She used to go to the library.
She went to two Goodwill stores, the thrift store and the Goodwill.
She went to all the grocery stores, clipped coupons.
As soon as she stopped doing that, she just kind of fell apart.
tim pool
Think about it from an evolutionary perspective.
You've got a finite amount of energy in a certain area and resources for a life form, be it human or otherwise.
And so What happens if there is a group of people or a group of animals and several of them stop producing for the rest of their herd?
It's a strain on the herd.
And so then what happens is the old, you know, it stands to reason that Life evolves duty and purpose because those who have a sense of duty and purpose to each other are more likely to survive, more likely to have kids, and thus those traits are carried on into the future with us.
Thus, family and community are extremely important.
The other interesting thing, too, is I think purpose.
You have to have a reason to do things to be alive.
Otherwise, We're facing the rat utopia experiment in my opinion.
Are you familiar?
We've mentioned it several times recently.
This is where they put a bunch of rats in a, you know, unlimited food, unlimited water, but finite space.
What happens when you don't have to fight for food?
What happens when you don't have to do any work?
unidentified
You get lazy.
tim pool
It's not just that.
They found what they called behavioral sync.
Behaviors started to break down.
Cannibalism emerged.
Some rats would just groom themselves incessantly and never do anything.
They would engage in strange behaviors.
And if they took one of the rats out of the utopia and put it with a regular population, its ideas would persist and spread.
So without purpose and without struggle, humans become likely, in my opinion, will become broken, you know, and unhealthy.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Things fall apart.
seamus coughlin
And I would say, I mean, even beyond the sort of more materialistic Darwinian analysis, we can just say that human beings have deep spiritual needs.
There's something about us that's very mysterious and difficult to understand.
And when we're not contributing to something that we understand is greater than ourselves, we do start to fall apart.
terry schilling
Yeah, absolutely.
You need that drive.
We've looked into this actually a lot on the economic side of things.
And the funny thing is, you would think that having kids and getting married would put you further back in terms of how much money you're making.
It's actually not true.
And there's this weird thing, a lot of experts think that when you have children, it's actually a bigger motivator to get a better job.
Invest more in your business so you can provide better.
But it's overall, when you have to struggle, you have to cut the fat.
You have to become more efficient.
And it just keeps you on your toes.
Family, I think, helps drive that.
Community helps drive that.
tim pool
For a lot of people, they have no purpose.
And I think if you look at the millennial generation, I wonder what it could be.
Well, there's two things.
No religion.
No kids.
So then, what do they live for?
For people who, a long time ago, I'm not saying this to say that people should be religious, but certainly without religion, we can see people become listless.
We used to have, you know, people had faith.
They had community.
Religion served several purposes.
You would go to church, and that meant you were with your community, you were communicating with each other, you were sort of synchronizing a lot of ways.
It was a chance for the people who lived next to each other to talk about what was affecting them.
So that was important.
We don't have that anymore.
People don't even talk to their neighbors anymore.
terry schilling
It's really weird.
tim pool
It is.
terry schilling
When I was growing up, I was always with my neighbors.
They all went to different churches, right?
I mean, some of my friends went to the same church as me, but we had a neighborhood gang.
We would literally ride our bikes around.
We built forts.
We knew all the other neighbors, even if they didn't have kids, and they would talk to us and hang out.
Parties.
Yeah.
tim pool
Block parties, barbecues.
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
And that doesn't happen anymore.
tim pool
Especially in New York, man.
You go to New York and you live on top of somebody and you never met them.
That's the weirdest thing to me.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Every apartment I've ever had, you know, I'm in New York City.
I was living off of, um, Myrtle and Nostrand.
And there's, uh, there were people my age behind me, below me and above me.
And it's like, why don't I know who they are?
We could probably play Xbox together and order pizza.
If I just talk to the, talk to the guy.
Never did.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Just never happens.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, in a very strange way, the internet has actually alienated us from our own actual location.
There's been something wonderful about the fact that it's given us access to people who are nowhere near us, but you stop forming social connections with the people who are right next to you.
terry schilling
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's talk about some more media lies and family and all that stuff.
We got the story from Politico.
Americans split over Florida's controversial bills on gender identity and race.
seamus coughlin
So controversial.
tim pool
Let me just slow down here and correct the article before we even get into it.
They're of course referring to the Parental Rights and Education Bill, which the Democrats call Don't Say Gay, which is a lie.
terry schilling
It's weird.
tim pool
It is a controversial fine, I guess, but it is not a bill on gender identity and race.
That seems strange to me.
The bulk of the bill in Florida, as we often clarify, is parents have a right to know what's happening.
terry schilling
Yep.
tim pool
That and no sex ed for preschoolers to third grade.
terry schilling
Five, six, seven, eight years old.
tim pool
That's it.
Teachers are still allowed to talk to kids and say the word gay to their faces.
A teacher can still go up to a child and say, you should be gay.
That is not being banned in any way.
Makes you wonder about what the Republicans are actually doing.
seamus coughlin
Bill doesn't even nearly go far enough.
tim pool
So, here we go.
I love this.
Politico says, Now here's the funny thing.
In their actual poll, the question refers to it as, don't say gay.
And I'm like, that is not proper polling.
seamus coughlin
Dishonest.
terry schilling
But you're still seeing the majority I really don't like how they're framing it as Americans being sharply divided on this issue.
I mean, there's a 16 point gap there.
there. And you got 30, this is an issue where 33% of Democrats support what DeSantis did.
Yeah. That's not sharply divided.
I'm sorry, like, when you're over 50% and your opponents are at 35%, imagine if Donald Trump had beaten Joe Biden by, you know, 51% to 35%.
That's a landslide, right?
Like, so it's just the whole thing is skewed, the questions are skewed, but they had to at least admit it, that they were, that they're not.
tim pool
One of the crazy things is that 69% of Americans support the banning of Sputnik and RT, it appears.
I mean that's kind of crazy to me. You should just watch that stuff knowing it's probably bunk, but
see what they're telling people for sure. But I'm gonna try, I'm gonna see if I can find the uh the
exact exact question here because it's funny the political poll question is not just a here we go
instead of saying uh do you support the parental rights and education bill out of Florida?
They say this.
As you may know, the Florida Legislature has passed a bill, labeled by opponents as the Don't Say Gay Bill, limiting the teaching of sexual orientation and gender identity to Florida school students.
Some say that limiting these discussions will protect children from inappropriate classroom topics, while others say it will block important conversations about LGBTQ issues.
To what extent do you support or oppose the following items in the bill?
Banning the teaching of sexual orientation and gender identity from kindergarten through third grade, Strong support is 37%, somewhat support is 13, and then
somewhat opposes 11, strongly oppose 23.
unidentified
Weirdo.
tim pool
Clearly see the majority there is in favor of, in support of it.
They then go on to ask the basic same, basically the same question and then say,
limiting lessons on orientation and identity after third grade to age appropriate discussions,
and you still have the majority, 32% in support of, 20% somewhat supporting.
So you still have the majority there being like, yeah, it should be age appropriate.
My question is, what would the percentage have been if they didn't frame this in favor of lies from the Democrats on the left?
seamus coughlin
They tell you what the opponents of the bill call it, but not the actual name and the question.
How much more bias can you get with it?
tim pool
And they push the lie from the Democrats instead of telling you what the bill actually does.
They say, opponents say it will block important conversations about LGBTQ issues.
That's irrelevant.
What if they said this?
Let me read you the question, reframed.
As you may know, the Florida Legislature has passed a bill, labeled by opponents as the Don't Say Straight Bill, limiting the teaching of orientation and identity to Florida school students.
Some say that limiting these discussions will protect children from inappropriate classroom topics, while others say it will block important conversations about traditional marriage issues.
To what extent do you support or oppose the following items in the bill?
There's no difference in the bill.
I could literally call it, don't say straight, and say Republicans have just banned teaching children about traditional marriage.
It's true.
Literally true.
But see, Politico comes out and they poll people.
Now, here's why I bring this up.
Even though they falsely framed the story based on lies, the majority still agree with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
It's weird.
There's like a super majority of Americans, and I know this is pretty radical, that the vast majority of Americans, they don't want to sexualize kids.
They want to let them be kids.
Why do we have to make everything sexual?
Someone tweeted at me today.
They said, not everything has to be gay.
And I think that that's right.
Great.
You do you.
Live your life.
Fine.
But not everything has to be about you.
tim pool
I remember back, there was a cartoon made by this guy.
It was on Reddit.
I can't remember his name.
He deleted it.
It was about atheism on Reddit.
Reddit, when it first started, one of the default subreddits getting a ton of attention was r slash atheism.
That meant if you were a random regular person and went to Reddit, you would see posts from people about being atheists.
So he made this cartoon where he basically mocked the idea because Reddit propped up a community that was just ragging on people for what they believed.
And it's like, why, you know, why is that a thing?
Why is that the default position?
Why, you know, I kind of forgot where I was going with that.
But ultimately what ends up happening is the dude deleted the cartoon and you can't find it anywhere anymore.
I mean, maybe it's been archived somewhere, but it was actually, I thought it was a great point.
Because the cartoon ends by saying, like, why is this a default subreddit to just, you know... Be on everyone's feed.
Yeah, like why just, you know, be mean to people all the time?
Why just prop that up?
I lost my train of thought with my point, so you guys just start talking.
terry schilling
Well, the big thing here is this stuff really is happening across the country.
We did this video last week basically saying thank you to Governor DeSantis for protecting our kids from women like this in our kids' public schools.
And it's this woman who started this sexy summer camp.
And she's talking about, um, she's talking about how she's like, I encourage every kid, kids of all ages, all ages to, you know, basically abuse themselves.
And she starts talking about how her nephews who started abusing themselves when they were toddlers, like going into this and it's like, guys, this is happening.
Like there's a core, a coordinated effort to sexualize your kids and like break them.
And so thank God, you know, I remember my point now.
tim pool
Basically, I brought that up because what the community was doing was making a whole bunch of people who didn't know a whole lot about religion just blindly be part of this hate mob against Christianity, but nothing else.
And so, when you look at what's happening after the Don't Say Gay or whatever, there's a TikTok video where a guy is wearing a shirt with pride flags on it, and it's like, why do that?
What do you think is happening?
They don't look at the news.
They don't read the bill.
They have no idea.
So it's not just about the atheism community on Reddit or anything like that.
It's about the fact that there is some truth to out of sight, out of mind is literally true.
If you can control what people see from the bulk of their social media, you are controlling what they will complain about.
So, what do we get on Twitter?
People are talking about COVID, and then one day, like a switch was flicked, it's Ukraine.
Because they want to make sure the only thing you see is these stories and this information.
This is why the Democrats called it Don't Say Gay.
They want to make the argument, and then even Ben Shapiro walks into that trap.
Ben Shapiro tweeted to Ted Lieu, this bill stops you from indoctrinating kids with your weird gender ideology or whatever, something that affects.
And I'm like, no, it doesn't.
It literally does not do that.
The Democrats made up a lie.
They claimed, here's the framing of the bill.
Conservatives walked into it and said, well, actually, that framing of the bill is a good thing.
And it's like both of you are talking about something totally irrelevant to what's going on.
But this is the game.
Media will often frame things... I'll put it this way as well.
I'll say this.
Politico doing a poll where they give you a paragraph breaking down an issue is a total violation of polling ethics in my opinion.
They should say this.
How do you feel about the parental rights and education bill out of Florida?
Strongly support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, somewhat oppose, don't know, or no opinion.
And guess what would happen?
Don't know would be 80%.
Exactly.
And hey, that would be funny, wouldn't it?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Instead, the funny thing is, they still try and frame it in favor of the left's argument, and the majority of people actually still support the bill.
terry schilling
Yep, yep.
It's really, it's gotta be depressing for them.
No, I mean, think about all the levers of cultural influence that the left has here, right?
Like, they've got the mainstream media, they've got Hollywood, they've got the music industry, corporate America, big tech, like, everything!
Like, they control so many sources of information, and they still can't win on something like this.
tim pool
Well, I think maybe their power is faltering.
You know, less and less people are interested in the lies.
The lies have become more and more obvious.
I think of it like they say that wealth lasts three generations.
Someone works really, really hard and builds a big business, becomes a billionaire.
Their son or daughter inherits it and then takes the company over and maintains it.
They have kids.
So what happens is You know, the child of the entrepreneur was still taught the values of hard work, but was not someone who founded a company and could maintain that.
Then they have kids who are taught to a certain degree the value of hard work, but certainly not how to start a company or even to maintain it.
So by the third generation you see wealth start to fizzle out.
I think of it similarly in terms to how the Democrats have institutional control and how the media is playing.
It seems like, you know, two generations ago, media was strongly controlled by savvy marketers who were like keen on manipulating.
Then their kids inherit it and they're like, keep the system up, keep it rolling, you know, CNN or whatever.
Now we're on the third generation who are just like, I have no idea what's going on.
And so they try doing the most outrageous and garbage propaganda that doesn't work and we're waking up to it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Well, it's interesting because one theme that has repeatedly come up as we've discussed the quote unquote, don't say gay bill is that if you're going to refer to it as an anti-grooming bill, it does, which would be great.
It doesn't go nearly far enough.
And the left hears that young children below a certain age are not going to be discussing sexuality in the classroom when it would be wildly inappropriate.
And they go, oh my goodness, but what about gay people?
How are we going to protect them?
Instead of saying, look, this is a bill that is specifically set up to protect children from inappropriate discussions and also to ensure that parents are notified by certain things that the school district might otherwise try to keep from them, even though they have a right to know as parents.
And all the left can think about is what about protecting the poor sweet gays?
That's literally it.
tim pool
And that's why I think it's better to call it the Don't Say Straight Bill.
And I am outraged!
These Republicans are banning discussions on traditional marriage!
I agree with the Democrats.
We should come together and say we should be allowed to teach kids about traditional marriage.
terry schilling
We should.
That should actually be the standard, right?
Like, I mean, this is the truth.
This is what you should be shooting for.
tim pool
I still have no problem with being like, we're not going to talk to preschoolers or third graders about, you know... About sexuality?
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the bizarre thing, right?
Imagine thinking you're going to get public opinion on your side.
trying to fight a bill that says you can't talk to children below a certain age about sexuality with
but then gay people won't be able to tell children about their sexuality when they're in preschool
who like what world do they live in that they think the average person is going to hear that and go
tim pool
oh no oh my goodness. Seamus according to this poll at least we have around 34 percent of people
who don't like that so you've got a third It's true.
If we were to extrapolate the data, who are hearing this from Politico, probably for the first time, and saying, four-year-olds should be taught these things.
seamus coughlin
You know, I thank goodness that I don't know anyone who would be in support of that, virtually.
I mean, maybe I do know some people who are lefty, so I made friends with when I was younger, who, if I ask them about this in Reconnected, might say they support it, but... There's zombies.
Yeah, exactly.
Those are people I really want to have conversations with.
That's disgusting.
tim pool
I have a lot of friends from back during Occupy, I have a lot of, you know, that I talk to, and they don't know what's in the bill.
seamus coughlin
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
This is dangerous!
You know, we have political zombification in this country.
We have a horde, tens of millions of political zombies, and they are tearing away at our system.
terry schilling
No, no, no.
That's right.
But here's where Donald Trump was a huge benefit to the movement, is that he showed us basically how to fight back.
And that you could actually call out the BS and the lies and end up winning these political battles.
And now you're seeing that being transferred to DeSantis.
And DeSantis is calling it out.
That press conference he had was really beautiful.
And I know another example of this, and he's not the greatest example, but it is Greg Abbott with what he did with that executive order.
Now agree or disagree on what he should have done with that executive order.
Which one?
The one declaring gender modifications for minors to be child abuse, right?
So, there are some disagreements on that, but guess what?
He trolled the entire national news media into saying and letting Americans know that this is happening, gender modification for children are happening, and by the way, Republicans think it's child abuse.
Something that like 80% of Americans actually agree on.
We polled on this, and even like 60% of Democrats want to ban this stuff from my show.
tim pool
Absolutely.
I mean, I think the issue with your average Democrat who votes Democrat is they don't know anything about what's going on.
unidentified
Exactly.
Yeah.
tim pool
So how you, you know, we've got this battle.
I think one of the core elements of the culture war is people who are discerning, who watch the news and seek out true information and try and fact check.
And you have people who don't.
The people who don't are being, you know, hypnotized.
I'm just imagining there's Brian Stelter and he's got his, you know, watch going left and right.
Don't watch Fox News.
Only we can give you the true, good information.
And I think it was Jake Tapper who said, you can't read WikiLeaks emails.
Only, only we can do that.
Was that Tapper?
terry schilling
No, Cuomo.
Cuomo did that.
I'm pretty sure it was Cuomo.
tim pool
I think it was Tapper.
Either one of them, whatever.
Cuomo's gone.
Until you sit down and talk with them.
I've told this before, I have friends who say they'll talk to their parents, like, hey, watch Tim's show and hear what he has to say.
And they're like, ah, I don't want to watch that conspiracy stuff.
And they're like, he's reading CNN.com.
He's reading Politico polls.
They're just giving their thoughts on this and a critical assessment.
And then I actually end up sitting down with my friend and they ask questions.
They're like, nah, Trump did this.
And I'm like, oh, actually, X, Y, and Z. And then they're like, well, I didn't hear that.
And I'll pull it up and show them.
That's terrifying.
Like one of my favorite stories when I was talking about China stealing the DNA from
people.
seamus coughlin
That's terrifying.
tim pool
It was an NPR story that China was getting access to people's DNA through COVID testing.
And there are people who didn't believe me and they were like, that's conspiracy mumbo
jumbo.
And I'm like, NPR right here.
Like, if you don't believe it, I got no problem.
I don't trust NPR half the time either.
But what is it?
Do you trust NPR or not?
seamus coughlin
Well, but that's the kind of thing that NPR would be incentivized against reporting on,
which makes me more likely to trust them about it.
Because their general interest is in promoting information that makes all of the COVID testing and vaccines, etc, sound better rather than worse.
So if they're willing to say that, it's probably because they have something.
tim pool
Yeah.
terry schilling
I also think that common sense should take a play, right?
There's this over-expertization thing, too, as well.
We have to read these things, and it doesn't matter if it's Fox News, NPR, CNN, MSNBC.
If you have a little bit of common sense, you can sniff out BS, right?
I don't care what degree you have, or if you have a PhD, whatever.
tim pool
But we are battling against the Bill Burrs and the Ethan Clines.
You know, Bill Burr who went on Joe Rogan and said, Look Joe, I just turn on the TV every two weeks and do what they tell me to do!
And it's just like...
If they told you to walk off a cliff, would you do it?
Like, you have a limit.
You have a red line, right?
You get Ethan Klein, who's like, you don't even got to think about it, man.
You just go to the CDC and just tell you what to do.
And it's just like, yo, throughout history, governments have oppressed people.
How could you be a supporter of resistance if you're telling people to just blindly walk in lockstep with the government's mandates?
That's what we're battling against.
terry schilling
there's like a complacency and a laziness like people don't want to deal with um really bad things right like we we end up like there's like a psychosis around that like when things are really bad we don't want to pay attention we just it's a human thing and that's why it always had there's a cycle to it Well, I'm curious.
seamus coughlin
What would the NRA for families have to say about this and try to do about these problems?
terry schilling
About all of it?
So, basically, where we're coming at it is, like, start with the basics, right?
Like, we wanted to get politicians comfortable talking about the transgender issue.
The left wants to put gender identity into civil rights law.
That has major consequences.
Men and women's sports.
Men and women's private spaces.
Men and women's prisons.
Women's homeless shelters.
There's a lot of really bad things here.
And so we started with the sports because that was what politicians wanted to talk about.
In reality, Americans are broken sexually.
We have disconnected sex from family.
We've disconnected it from children.
It's now just totally hedonistic and you're a weirdo if you have six kids.
tim pool
Have you seen the meme where it's like nine kids lined up and then the mom's pregnant and then there's a bunch of leftists saying this is disgusting and stuff like that?
seamus coughlin
Well, it's so, but I mean, but that just shows their misanthropic hand.
They hate human life.
Ultimately.
They really do.
They'll never acknowledge it.
What they love is pleasure and engaging in pleasure.
And they see other human beings existence is very inconvenient to them because that requires that they set themselves aside and make choices that are for the benefit of others.
tim pool
What's the article?
It's like, in order for there to be a feminist utopia, the family must be destroyed or something like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
No, but that was part of the Marxist movement.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
terry schilling
It's true.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, because you need to, you know, people... This is interesting.
Back during Occupy Wall Street, there were two different governments.
Governments.
I don't know what you'd want to call it.
There was the General Assembly, which was everyone gathered around and then the facilitators effectively controlled what could be said by who and when and how money was spent.
But then you had a group of people who tried creating what's called the General Union.
And these guys explained it to me that the way the union would work is that every tent at Occupy was a family that knew each other's interests, desires, and needs.
And so a representative from each family would discuss with the larger group, instead of a group of random people all adhering to, perhaps, you know, the authority who facilitate the meetings.
I thought it was interesting that their approach from it was, we're a family, we have needs amongst each other, we'll convey those needs to other families, and then ultimately see how that greatly, you know, but that was crushed.
The general unit was basically wiped out of the park.
They were ostracized.
They were smeared and lied about.
terry schilling
It's like they reinvented the wheel.
unidentified
Right?
terry schilling
Like how society works.
It is organized by families.
I think that we've gone...
The reality is, and Sheamus, you were talking about this earlier, like, we went decades without a, like, robust lobbying special interest group in D.C.
representing families.
Like, who makes politicians pay a price when they were voting to trans our kids?
Or voting to allow pornography unrestricted, you know, no age verification online?
tim pool
Well, they just, they say these things don't happen.
And the problem is, once again- And it's good that they do.
But so in the long run, I think, you know, we're starting to see that the narrative start cracking.
People start realizing what's going on with their kids.
One of the one of the things I think is really important out in West Virginia, it's happening.
People think they can move to West Virginia, which is the second most Trump supporting state in the country after I think it was Wyoming.
They think they're going to go there and find a red school that's going to be like middle of the road.
Look, we're not here to teach your kids to be religious.
We're just going to, you know, teach your kids, let them be kids, play baseball, and they'll learn math.
And then it turns out that these woke activists are still running for school board in red areas on purpose.
They have a mission.
They have a cause.
They found their purpose.
So you get these kids who are going to grade school in West Virginia and they're surrounded by all of the cult woke-ism.
They have all of these books like Whiteness Contracts and stuff like that in Ibermex candy.
And then when you point it out, they call you a liar and say you're making up and the media protects them.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
So human beings have a natural desire to procreate, and it's very strange how over the past 50, 60 years or so that has been branded as sort of a strange, uniquely religious impulse.
At bottom, it's in all of us.
And people who are not Procreating or reproducing sexually try to find other ways to spread what they are to other people and so these woke activists They're essentially the byproduct of a society that has stopped seeing sex as something which is beautiful and unitive and procreative and can literally Create a human soul which will outlast the stars and the mountains and everything you've seen in this world
Into something that's just there for me to get a little bit of pleasure out of and so what happens is people become Fundamentally restructured towards selfishness in pursuing hedonistic pleasure and because they're not procreating in the traditional way They have to make your children like them because that urge doesn't disappear.
tim pool
Maybe I think worse they're animals well, I think I think robots a better word than zombie for for a lot of people because There's something special with existence and life in general, and especially with human life.
There's something special, there's unique, the human experience, the feelings that we have.
But if you reduce everything to their mechanical functions, which is often what you'll see from, you know, the modern left, then there is no unique human experience.
It's just all a function.
It's all random.
It's all chaos.
When in reality, I'll put it this way.
There's a view among, you know, many atheists and more of the left that, you know, emotions are just, you know, response to stimuli to help, you know, propagate the species and all that.
Humans have these reactions and all that really is, you know, that life is random.
There's nothing else out there.
I find it fascinating because I prefer the Dr. Manhattan view of it.
Have you read or watched Watchmen?
unidentified
No.
terry schilling
Oh, no, no, no.
Tell me about it.
tim pool
Dr. Manhattan is, he's this doctor, he's Dr. Osterman, and he is involved in an accident which strips him of his intrinsic field.
He then one day this body just reforms in the lab where he was working and he has access
to manipulate time and space and he perceives you know throughout you know multiple dimensions
or whatever.
And so he's he's effectively a Superman.
He's almost the humans are for him as a god like because he has telekinesis and he can
teleport but he says he is not God.
He is not omniscient.
He just can see his future and past.
So anyway he ends up getting sick of humanity.
He leaves and goes to Mars.
But this young woman who he had been dating you know before is trying to beg him to come
back.
And he says, you know, I have seen things, you know, or he says a bunch of things, you know, like, that effectively are, life doesn't even matter.
He says, look at Mars.
For, you know, tens of thousands of years, it has existed without life, and could you say it was not better off?
What, what would human, you know, what good would Mars gain by having humans on it?
And so, he can see the future, you know, in a certain sense.
He tells the young woman who's with him that, you know, she'll leave crying.
And he says, you keep telling me that I refuse to see, you know, your way, but you refuse to see the world my way.
Because he wants her to perceive time and everything the way he does, so she can understand the sort of futility.
So in the story, he then, you know, puts his hand on her head.
She can then see past and future, but he can also see her past and future.
And what he sees is that her mother was attacked by this other guy who tried to rape her.
And she got beaten up by him, but someone came and stopped it.
She then later went and met with this guy and had sex with him, and then got pregnant with this woman and gave birth to her.
And that kind of shocks Dr. Manhattan, who's this very, you know, computeristic, like, methodical, lacking emotion.
And then he says he was wrong, and he realized that, you know, he thought he had never seen a miracle before, but then he realized that in her, All of these random moments and all of this energy and all of these things that should not have come together, come together in such astronomical odds that you could only describe humans as that miracle.
So what he was basically saying is like your mother, it is like out of all the billions of years, out of all of the different life forms that came and died, it comes down to your mother who loved a man she had every reason to hate and from it is just you.
And all of those things forming this one moment could be described as a miracle.
And so that's the human experience.
I love that way of thinking about it, that we are these unique entities that took billions of years to finally, you know, come to or however long you think that everything that was around us ultimately leads to this point.
And it seems like the odds are astronomically, it's beyond comprehension.
And that's something magnificent and unique and special.
So the people who look at this and say, it's random, it's whatever, I'll be like, yo, winning the lottery is random, but boys, it's special when you do.
Now, your life and your uniqueness is 100 billion times winning the lottery.
And that's something truly special and unique.
terry schilling
That's a really awesome way to think about it.
tim pool
A unique human being created by you is more astronomically at odds than winning the lottery.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
And I want to mention this because I'd be remiss not to correct myself, maybe I'm being pedantic here, but when I mentioned parents creating life or souls, you are collaborating with God in that creative process.
terry schilling
It's really interesting.
I've been around the block on this issue.
I get asked a lot about gay adoption.
I'm not weirded out by gays.
I'm not freaked out by them.
But what I think is...
I had this experience with someone that my family knows where they got married as a lesbian couple and they end up getting pregnant.
They get a sperm donor, the one has it, and when the baby's born The other spouse is like, well, that's not my baby.
That doesn't look like me.
It wasn't my egg.
I didn't birth it.
And so they did another thing where they had an egg from the other spouse that didn't have the baby implanted into the other mother, and then they had it.
But they would fight over which kid was cuter.
Right?
And stuff like that.
And it's like, I can't do that with my wife.
I mean, we'll do it like tongue-in-cheek, right?
Like, oh, he's such a little asshole.
He's just like his father.
Yeah, he's looks like his father, but like I can't my kids, but my wife and I as kids.
They're actually 50% of both of us.
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
And they're either like, they might look like her or look like me, but they're still made by us.
And so there's like this intrinsic unity with the family.
And when you have kids and you're married and, you know, making new human life.
tim pool
I was reading something and it said, um, it was like a meme on Reddit or whatever, but they were like, why do you want
to have kids?
And the person said, because if I don't, I would be the first life form through billions of years of procreation not to have a child.
And I was like, that's kind of scary if you think about it.
Like every single ancestor that you have had a child.
Every single one of them had a child.
And if you don't, that's the end of that chain, of that history, of that...
Whatever you want to call it something something massive and profound and bigger than you ends if you do not have a child Yep.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Well, and I think there are some people who are not called to have children and that's fine It's okay for that lineage to end with you But if you are called to have children that that is a very beautiful thing That is a very beautiful thing to do and as I'm sort of mentioning earlier, you know You're collaborating with God in this creative process and of course he creates the soul but to be a parent and to have a child that That you are bringing into the world through his graces and the ability he's given you to do so is such a beautiful and profound thing.
And yet as a culture, we don't just have an indifference towards it.
We're actually disgusted by it.
tim pool
And you know, too, you know, I was just mentioning how it's like, you know, having a child is like infinitely like at more at odds than winning the lottery.
Like the uniqueness and the rarity of that is something truly special.
I mean, and if you're really concerned about money and you'd rather buy the lottery ticket, just think about this.
Have the kid.
Bring them to Hollywood, you know, and then boom, 18, maybe not even 18 years, maybe you get a child star, then you're rich!
unidentified
There you go!
tim pool
Just put them to work in L.A.
seamus coughlin
Not with what they do in Hollywood.
Keep your kid as far away as possible from those people.
Something tells me I can tell you where the Hollywood people will stand on this bill.
tim pool
They're gonna be like, Tim's right, bring your kids.
No, no, I was kidding.
seamus coughlin
Do not ever bring your child here.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Well, this is the the world we're in now is that You we have two distinct visions of reality and it's very strange and this is why I often talk about transhumanism I don't know if you've read a lot of it, but clearly Those of us who are not talking about living in a digital world or having an internal identity or anything like that outside of, you know, ourselves, we live in base reality, I suppose.
And then this other faction of people, they live in a digital or, you know, just a different version of reality.
I wonder if the internet is helping create this sense of separate identity from your body because people now have a way to go online, especially now with VR, and create avatars, create facsimiles or representations of themselves.
Whereas for the most of human civilization, you are your body.
I mean, now we have people who exist in a different space where they engage in commerce and communications, but they create a different version of themselves for these spaces.
Even different voices, if they end up speaking.
Voice changers or otherwise, cartoon versions of themselves.
What happens then when those people enter the metaverse?
They will create whatever version of themselves they want, but for those of us that just maintain base reality, live here and carry on, we're gonna have families, we're gonna have kids, and we're just gonna be like, I'm just some dude here in blue jeans.
seamus coughlin
I mean, we already see it very much so that people don't want to live in base reality, and what they're trying to do is take their own mental reality, their subjective experience of what the world is, and what their place should be in it, rather than what their place actually is, what they think it should be, and then they're trying to transform their bodies in accordance with that.
That's the entirety of the transgender movement.
tim pool
Truth be told, I would love virtual reality.
Skyrim is so much fun.
You know, when the new Elder Scrolls come out, I'm gonna put that VR on and I'm gonna be firing the bow and arrow at some dragons!
But the interesting thing to me is that, you know, when I play these games, it's just like first person, it's your hands, and they're moving around.
I'm still me.
I still view myself as me.
There's, you know, for me, I don't go into these video games and think, I want to be someone else.
I just think, I want to throw a fireball at a dragon.
But there are some people who go into these spaces specifically to escape and to be something else.
They go in chat rooms and lie about who they are.
They go into video games and create avatars specifically to be a different person.
I wonder if one of the issues we just have is at the root, people aren't taught to love themselves.
terry schilling
Or really how to love anything.
And there's been this huge rise in VR porn.
I did this debate series with Brandy Love.
She's an active porn star.
And she's actually pretty honest.
I think for a porn star, she's pretty great.
And a moral person, I think.
But the thing is, even she was freaked out by VR porn.
Because she was like, I just think it's a little bit too weird.
I think that, you know, when it comes to sex, it's really important to have another person and to share that with someone else.
And virtual reality really is like people trying to escape reality.
And it's terrible.
tim pool
I think that's where we're going for sure.
And that's what porn is in general.
And look, there is one of the quotes I love to say on the show every so often is, Google it!
Tell me who said this, because I was reading a long time ago.
They said that if humans ever meet aliens, we will shake hands not because we overcame nuclear weapons, but because we overcame the Xbox.
And the point of the article was that humans are continually chasing after self-satisfying actions like You know, what do we do?
We create a massive industry for porn.
We create food, sugars and fats and desserts.
These are the things that just trigger other reward centers in our brain and all that stuff.
And so, where will people end up?
I think at this point the article is probably outdated, but I would say at this point we're seeing, with the metaverse and everything, most people are going to, they will beg for Neuralink.
They will just be like, I don't care who's in charge, I don't care if you can erase my brain, I want to be a magic elf fighting a dragon more than anything, just get me out of this.
And they'll take it.
terry schilling
And they'll be dead.
There's this weird belief, and transgenderism is the precursor to transhumanism.
tim pool
I disagree on that one.
I think the issue is we're seeing a whole bunch of identity issues across the board.
You've got transracial.
You've got otherkin.
Gnosticism's the root.
But I think ultimately it's just... There's a bunch of different trans identity issues that have been affecting us for a long time.
Even someone who wants to change their name, they're not happy with who they are, they're not satisfied with it.
It starts very, very small seeds.
I think for a lot of people, they feel like they're in the wrong body, but...
It could be for a variety of different ways, you know?
Like Rachel Dolezal.
She's the wrong race.
terry schilling
I think it's related to Gnosticism, though.
The separation of the soul from the body.
Right?
Like, Christianity has a totally different understanding, which is that your soul and your body are intricately related, and once those two are separated, that's called death.
And so I think, you know, if I'm an atheist and I hear about Neuralink and I hear about transgenderism or whatever, you're born in the wrong body, it actually kind of makes sense.
Like, if there is no God and your consciousness can, like, be replicated and put onto a hard drive, like, why not?
Like, you can technically have a copy of you living forever.
tim pool
Are you familiar with Otherkin?
terry schilling
Isn't that like when you think you're an animal or something?
tim pool
They think they're mystical animals.
terry schilling
Yes.
tim pool
So they're, you know, it's not necessarily mystical animals.
For a lot of these people, they say they're like, you know, owls, you know, or whatever, or wolves, or they'll say they're like part owl, part cat, or things like that.
But for some people, they think they're dragons.
They think they're, you know, wyverns, or however you pronounce it.
They think they're mystical creatures that don't even exist.
And so that's why I think identity issues are well beyond just transgender.
I think, we've been seeing this on the internet for a long time, people have, maybe narcissism or however you want to explain it, separated their internal self from their physical self.
That to me I think is, maybe there's something within people that, you know, they can fathom the concept at some point, but you need some kind of catalyst to make it more pronounced, and I think the internet is that catalyst.
An opportunity for people to enter a space where they can exist as something different, at least in facsimile.
So, you know, right now, you can put on the Oculus, and I did this a while ago.
Man, I'll tell you, during lockdown, when it first started, we were in Jersey, I went on my deck, I put on the Oculus, and I was on Google Maps, and I was walking around all these different places.
Here's the crazy thing, before we even moved here, I went to Harper's Fair, and I like walked around to see what it was like, and go into the city and everything like that.
But then there was also these chat rooms and they're really interesting where you can walk around and you can create a digital character for yourself and I make the joke that people walk around like carrots because there were some people that had like strange like rutabaga bodies like they wanted to be a rutabaga man and that's and for me I'm kind of just like Whenever I play these games, I have like a default avatar because I don't care about what this thing is.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm me, and to me, I'm just playing a video game.
But to some people, they go in and they're like, this is my chance to create something that I would rather be.
I suppose.
The real issue might be people just don't like their lives and they think the grass is always greener.
One of the things that really bothers me is when I hear from people, they say, if only I had money, then I'd be able to do thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I always tell these people, like, that's not true at all.
Ask anybody who runs a business.
Having money does not guarantee you the ability to do anything.
Some people are like, I wish I could start a successful YouTube channel, but I just don't have the money.
And I'm like, dude, I had a phone.
All I had was a cell phone when I started it.
And then when I started doing commentary, it was just a GoPro.
And they're like, well, I don't even have a GoPro.
But you have a phone, dude.
I know you have a phone.
Not everybody does.
Fair point.
So you can get cheap phones with cameras on it, and you can start somewhere.
You can get a webcam for 15 bucks.
I understand there's a base level.
You need a computer or something.
A phone can do all of it, really.
But people would always say to me, with all of these resources at their fingertips, if only I had money.
People seem to think, if only I was Axe, then I would finally be happy, and I'm just like, if you're not happy with yourself, you know, you're not gonna find it chasing after some mythical dragon beast or, you know.
Truth be told, video games are fun.
If I, you know, when I play the, you know, when I use the Oculus, I don't really... It's fun, you know, and it's gonna be really fun when they create, you know, when they have better VR with haptic feedback.
I don't know if I'd ever want to get Neuralink.
But it is tempting to be able to play video games where you can actually like experience flight and stuff like that.
But maybe the issue is there's too many people who are more weak-willed and would rather live in the fake reality where they can feel good all the time and they would wither away and die if they did.
terry schilling
Yeah, I have a real aversion to it all.
I really think that anytime you start to mess with your brain, the idea that someone could upload thoughts to your brain or download your thoughts, that's kind of freaky to me.
And that's at the core of neurology.
Look, I have a Tesla.
I love it.
It's a great car.
It goes 0-60 in 3 seconds.
I don't care about the environment.
If it didn't go 0-60 in 3 seconds, I wouldn't have it.
But if you look at this ecosystem that Elon Musk is setting up with Neuralink, SpaceX, Starlink, Tesla, and the cell phone.
Is that part of Starlink?
He's coming out with a satellite phone that's hooked up to Starlink so he'll have a whole ecosystem and we don't even know does he have a payment processing system i mean i know he would help found paypal but that is pretty intense like you put one guy and then i don't know and then what's the other question like if he gets to mars is that his now
tim pool
Well, you put a flag on it.
terry schilling
Yeah, I think it'd be pretty cool.
You're gonna defend it, I guess.
tim pool
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Let's read what you guys have to say.
Sean Hirschbach says, Hey guys, remember when Alec Baldwin killed a woman?
I do remember when he killed a woman.
Yeah.
You guys remember when Alec Baldwin killed a woman?
terry schilling
Yeah, that was pretty recent.
seamus coughlin
What's going on with that?
unidentified
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
I mean, where's that court case?
unidentified
I don't know, man.
tim pool
Yeah, why hasn't he been arrested?
lydia smith
Yeah, right?
tim pool
Yep.
Green Blue says Ian is probably sick from that raw aloe drink.
Is that?
Yeah, he was drinking some like aloe vera thing the other day.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He said it was really bitter.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Huh.
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
All right.
Mike Rader says theory Joe Biden is not releasing the Migs to Ukraine because if he does, Putin releases blackmailed dirt on Hunter and the big guy receiving payment from the first lady of Moscow.
What's the likelihood?
Man, I remember that narrative when they were like, what does Putin have on Trump?
And now we're really coming into the, what does Putin have on Biden?
terry schilling
Isn't it all out there?
A lot of it's out there.
tim pool
I mean, truth be told, this is more plausible.
What does Putin have on Biden?
terry schilling
That is definitely true.
All those financial dealings, like we only scratched the surface on that.
seamus coughlin
No, but he's just a good guy.
What are you guys talking about?
tim pool
Hunter Biden?
seamus coughlin
Come on, man!
unidentified
Harry Lange!
tim pool
Murph Try says Tim just wanted to let people know that there is a red flag law proposed for Kentucky, SB 278, and that 2A loving Kentuckians should contact their state reps to let their voice be heard.
Definitely.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Vosh says, Are you kidding, Tim?
Half of Hollywood still thinks he's innocent.
In reference to Jussie Smollett getting work in Hollywood.
That's a fair point.
They're going to put him on a reality show and it's going to make money.
I mean, we joked that we should do a short film called The Jussie Smollett Story, where we reenact cinematically like what happened and hire Jussie to do it.
And it's funny because we joke because we know having Jussie in it would Yep.
Correct.
I already know it.
You get clicks. Yeah, and then I'm thinking about I'm like they've got to be thinking the same thing
unidentified
Yep, you don't gotta like the guy but you want to watch him and you want to make money. Yeah
tim pool
Yeah, would you watch the Jesse Smollett story? I already know it. But would you watch it? I would I would I liked it
seamus coughlin
So lifetime, I like to believe I wouldn't but if it came down to it, there's a chance I might
tim pool
So the Batman comes out. Oh boy. It's Robert Pattinson, and I'm like I don't care to see it really
We love and then we ended up going to see it I didn't like it, but I'll tell you this if like lifetime
announced the Jesse Smollett story I would be sitting there with popcorn and have chips and
soda Everybody would be gathered around and we'd be ready to go
the moment We're like, it's starting, everyone, shh, shh, shh!
You know, everybody would want to see it.
terry schilling
Wait, what would a Jussie Smollett Lifetime movie look like?
It would be like... He comes back to town, he falls in love... No, no, no, no, it would be the story of how he got text.
No, but Lifetime's the woman's network.
tim pool
No, but you know what I mean, like, it's made for TV movies.
terry schilling
Yeah, but it'd be funny to have, like, a women's movie about Jussie Smollett coming back, you know?
tim pool
It would be, like, the week leading up to the attack.
And then it would be, like, the cops would all be like, we're gonna frame him, yeah!
And they're, like, planting evidence.
He's like, I'm being set up!
seamus coughlin
Don't you see it?
This isn't like a major spoiler.
I'll warn the audience though.
If you want to know our opinion on the Batman film, I mean I'm only speaking for myself here, but the arc is that Batman learns to use his platform responsibly.
That was the story.
tim pool
Is that it?
seamus coughlin
I don't think so.
I thought so because at the end when he's talking, again spoilers, at the end when he's talking to the villains they go, I am vengeance, which is what he said, and he's been so irresponsible with his platform and what he's been doing in public, and he has to channel his celebrity in a productive way.
tim pool
That's not it.
It's when, and again, spoilers for those who haven't seen it.
seamus coughlin
Spoilers.
tim pool
So I'm gonna wait a few seconds after I say spoilers, and now I'm gonna say it.
So, earmuffs.
It's when Catwoman says to Batman, because she doesn't know he's Bruce Wayne, that Bruce Wayne is just another, like, white privilege.
seamus coughlin
That's a big part of it.
That works into my point, though.
He has to use his platform responsibly.
He's just a rich, white male, and he's never thought about how his influence affects people.
tim pool
You know why I'm annoyed?
I wouldn't say that the Batman is insanely woke, but it is.
Because white privilege is a psychotic manipulation and lie.
It's true.
they entertain it as a concept in a film as if it's a true thing that exists, you're dealing
with cultish propaganda.
Let me explain to everybody.
Majority privilege exists.
Attractiveness privilege exists.
Age, youth privilege exists.
unidentified
There's a lot of biases that people have.
tim pool
And the reason why I say white privilege is a lie is that white privilege only exists
in a country with a majority white population.
And try going to other countries and they'll just be like, they have a word for you.
They have a special word for you in many countries referencing you as a foreign white person.
White privilege extends only as far as the cash in your pockets and the cash of these countries.
How about we just remove race from it?
It's wealth privilege, which is basically everything.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's how it goes, man.
Everybody knows, man.
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich.
That's how it goes.
are being cheated out of our tax returns by the IRS, finding mistakes on our returns.
Yup.
That's how it goes, man.
The, everybody knows, man.
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich.
That's how it goes.
Everybody knows.
All right, Jacob Siebert says, Hey, Tim and cast,
I would suggest getting Nigerian dwarf goats because they're a lot easier to handle.
I would also suggest a herd dog, like a blue heeler, and some other large breed to scare coyotes, my personal experience.
Luke Rosek was on the show the other day, and we were talking about goats.
He said, full-size goats, what do you get, like a gallon of milk per day?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like, if you want to drink milk, then get it.
And I'm like, I don't know if I want to drink that much milk, man.
That's a lot.
seamus coughlin
I'll help you out, bro.
Get big and strong.
tim pool
Well, he was saying the dwarf goats have like 6% milk fat, which is great for cheese, but
that might make you fat.
And I'm like, considering how many people we have, I think making cheese is like the
right way to go.
I don't know how to make cheese.
seamus coughlin
Also, if it hits the fan, getting fat off the food you have is not the worst problem
lydia smith
to have.
tim pool
Well, I'm excited for the stuff we're building.
seamus coughlin
I thought you were going to say, I'm excited for it to hit the fan.
tim pool
The good news is, I think the patio that the truck drove over the other day, we're going to be able to, yeah, we can just clean it off.
So we were worried because they just laid the epoxy and then pressing dirt into it would push it into the glue and you have to sand it off.
But it looks like for now, we're not entirely sure.
Some of it has come off, but not in the deepest area.
So otherwise they got to sand the patio.
It's going to be a disaster.
It's going to suck.
lydia smith
Yeah, if you want a full-sized goat, my family used to have French Alpine goats, which were really good, really solid, adorable babies, and a lot of milk.
unidentified
Milk?
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, what about a cow?
I like cow milk.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, cows are awesome.
terry schilling
How many gallons of milk do they produce a day?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
terry schilling
That's a good question.
seamus coughlin
I assume they're a lot more difficult to maintain than a goat.
tim pool
But then what do you do with a baby cow?
Like, you gotta get the cow pregnant.
So do you, like, ask some dude to bring his bull over?
Yeah, I think that's kind of... You put up a sign saying, like, Cow Seeking Bull.
Call this number.
lydia smith
It's like a dating app.
tim pool
I guess, or you bring your cow to the bowl, and the bowl gets down to it, then you bring the cow back, and then you get milk.
lydia smith
I'm sure they have ways to do it.
seamus coughlin
I'm hearing from Google.com, the website, that most dairy cows are milked two to three times per day.
On average, a cow will produce six to seven gallons of milk per day.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, one cow will make six to seven gallons per day?
seamus coughlin
That's a lot of milk.
Yep, that's what I'm reading.
unidentified
That's incredible.
seamus coughlin
No, this is from Google.
lydia smith
He's like goats a little better.
seamus coughlin
Oh, this is, so here's the second result.
So I'm getting even deeper into my investigative research.
It says milk production per cow has more than doubled in the last 40 years.
In the U.S., the average dairy cow produces more than 7.5 gallons of milk per day.
That's crazy.
lydia smith
Goats are a good compromise.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yes, I certainly think so, and we should.
I'm a big fan of nuclear power, especially the newer generations.
to build nuclear power plants with the aim of providing 25% of the country's power.
What are your thoughts on the economic effects?
Can we get free of Saudi oil?
Yes, I certainly think so.
And we should.
I'm a big fan of nuclear power, especially the newer generations.
What do you think about nuclear?
terry schilling
I love it.
I mean, look, I've seen Chernobyl.
I mean, it's incredible what happened there, but that was all basically corruption.
Nuclear power, today, I don't think we built a new nuclear power plant in America since like the 70s, right?
Or am I misremembering that?
lydia smith
That's right, unfortunately.
terry schilling
We've got such better technology now than in the 70s, and we haven't really had any major catastrophes here in America.
Yeah, um... Like Three Mile Island, I think?
tim pool
No, no deaths.
terry schilling
Yeah, no deaths.
Nothing really... nothing Chernobyl-y.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright, Sean L. says, Former Army Intel Collector here.
Most news outlets are very wrong, read the military might, of Russia, China vs. the U.S.
They overstate their capabilities and understate ours.
Most people have no idea how strong we are.
Nukes are the issue.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
I think the U.S.
is strong and I think there's probably a lot of weapons the U.S.
has that we don't know about.
I also think the U.S.
is split between woke cultists and, you know, regular people, and that's going to cause very serious problems.
I think that's going to cause very serious problems, you know, on the battlefield if you end up with You know, maybe not.
Maybe people who know better than I are going to be alive.
You don't have time to think about that.
It's just, you know, fight and survive and get the mission done.
But I think when people start seeing the world completely differently from each other, it'll cause very serious problems.
Carrie, my girl, says, justice with Jussie is the new show.
seamus coughlin
LOL.
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
That's great.
tim pool
Justice with Jussie.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Look, Seamus, there are so many cartoon opportunities for you on this one.
seamus coughlin
I know.
I know.
Look, it's about narrowing down what I'm going to focus on.
tim pool
What's a good conspiracy film?
Like a whodunit?
You have like a Jussie Smollett whodunit where he's trying to figure out who framed him?
seamus coughlin
Who actually framed him?
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Who framed Jussie Smollett?
unidentified
No, it's a really good question.
seamus coughlin
It's a really good question.
We may never find the real hoaxer.
I don't know.
Is he in the room with us right now?
Yeah.
It was Tim.
tim pool
VeryAngryCitizen says, Couldn't take living in Philadelphia anymore.
Crime is up.
Quality of life is down.
Filth everywhere.
As of 11.41am today, I'm a West Virginia resident just outside of Morgantown.
Sent Lids my resume.
God bless you all.
Congratulations on escaping Philadelphia.
We were on the other side of the river and it was just brutal, man.
Yeah, these cities have fallen apart.
He is the guy who went out and took revenge on the person who assaulted his child.
was denied bail. What an upside down timeline we are living in. Who is that? I don't know
lydia smith
who that is. He is the guy who went out and took revenge on the person who assaulted his
tim pool
child. Oh, the former MMA fighter. Yep. Yep. Joshua Bro says Jesse is out on bail pending
Is it quite possible the appellate judge issued a harsher sentence when he is found guilty again?
The system wants people to shut up and take it.
I bet this is a bad idea for Jussie.
I think Jussie is an egomaniac sociopath and that the reason he was screaming I'm not suicidal was because he was planning on killing himself so they had to restrain him to a bed with straps Because he would want to harm himself to create a legacy of that it was a conspiracy the whole time.
Nobody will believe it.
He's an egomaniac and a sociopath and he's also really dumb.
terry schilling
Really dumb.
tim pool
Really dumb.
Mitzo Plick says, Taco Bell is to Mexican food what strawberry candy is to eating an actual strawberry.
Yeah.
There was like a lawsuit recently I read about where some guy sued Pop-Tarts or something.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
How dare he?
tim pool
Because he was like, it says strawberry, but there's no strawberries in it.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And then the judge said something like, I don't think any reasonable person would look at what's on the box and assume it's a strawberry.
terry schilling
That's great.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Well, it might not be real strawberry, but sometimes it's just what you want.
seamus coughlin
I mean, to be fair, it does literally say the word strawberry.
unidentified
True.
lydia smith
Technically correct.
tim pool
It does.
terry schilling
Wait, there are actually strawberry, like, preserves in it?
tim pool
I don't, I think there probably is some.
lydia smith
Strawberry flavored.
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know, we can look it up.
lydia smith
I'm curious.
tim pool
Ian Crossland with a super chat saying, Seamus, please make O'Donald's in Freedom Tunes and make the O'Donald's worker an ethnic Irish guy.
So, I don't know, he said ethical Irish guy.
lydia smith
Oh, no such thing.
seamus coughlin
Well, oh!
unidentified
I can't believe that you would beat me to it.
seamus coughlin
I couldn't miss my chance.
I was actually deciding whether or not I would malign an entire group of people based on their ethnicity, but before I could make that decision, Lydia did.
lydia smith
You're welcome.
tim pool
But Lydia's Irish, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, I am.
seamus coughlin
Self-deprecating.
I knew there was a reason I didn't trust her.
So Ian is asking about O'Donald's, which harkens back to McDonald's, which I mean, it's possible that this particular McDonald family was Scottish, but MC is Irish, as the super chat above testifies from Ryan MC Cafferty.
lydia smith
It's Irish.
tim pool
Mick Cafferty.
lydia smith
Look at that.
unidentified
Mick is Irish.
seamus coughlin
Don't trust the Brit.
tim pool
Would you get sued if you made a burger place called O'Donald's?
Because I totally want to do it now.
seamus coughlin
That's an interesting question.
terry schilling
It just depends on what the logo looks like.
tim pool
It'll be a golden O. W?
terry schilling
Yeah.
tim pool
A big O. Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I almost want to do it just because it'd be funny.
terry schilling
It would be really funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
Let's do it.
terry schilling
Or at least like get the logo done.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What can we do? Colonel Papa...
O'Donald's?
unidentified
Yeah.
terry schilling
It just makes all of us like it.
tim pool
I'll tell you, you know what my idea for a restaurant is?
So you know how you go to Panda Express?
You like walk up and you're in line and they have all- You go there a lot, don't you?
No, I don't at all.
So, uh, but you know how you go in and you're in line like- And Chipotle, you go in line and they have all the food?
terry schilling
Yeah.
tim pool
My idea for a restaurant is...
They have- It's- It's like Panda Express,
cause they have like the different kinds of food, the orange chicken, or spicy beef or whatever they have.
But this place has orange chicken, chicken tikka masala, and pad thai.
So you go there and they have those three things.
And then maybe other sides, because that, because those I think were like the top three Grubhub ordered items or something.
So I was like, do one restaurant that serves those three things.
And you and all your friends could go there and you walk up and you're like, I'll do the orange chicken.
They put it in the thing and you get rice.
All of it served with rice anyway.
terry schilling
Yep.
tim pool
So it's like, there you go, man.
I think I'd rather go for chicken tikka masala, to be honest.
That's what I'm all about.
That's my idea for a restaurant.
Although I really, really would love to have like a little fast food burger joint.
Just like maybe like a little sit down place.
We'd do the quick burgers and you know, some fries.
O'Donald's.
McPoole's.
seamus coughlin
If you did that if you put MC in front of your name What if your last name was actually McDonald and you wanted
to open a restaurant? Yeah, you could yeah, yeah to be honest
tim pool
There was there's a hot dog place in Chicago. I used to go to called Donald's though. Yeah. Yes
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
We used to go there when we were in the city.
tim pool
Oh yeah, you're familiar now.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, delicious, delicious.
tim pool
Yeah, it is a really good place, to be honest.
Alright.
Ken says, Yep!
Why would they do that?
Buy what you gotta buy now before it's too late.
much for the economic warfare, but you won't hear that in the mainstream media.
Russia has a massive stockpile of gold, world abandoning USD as a reserve
currency. Yep! Why would they do that? Buy what you gotta buy now before it's too
late. Yep. Yeah. All right, let's grab some more.
Padre Mortales says, Remember that by the Mexicans defeating the French, it helped prevent the French from helping the Confederacy, therefore helping the Union win the Civil War.
Good holiday to celebrate in the U.S.
Oh, yeah, Cinco de Mayo.
That's right.
terry schilling
It's a great holiday.
tim pool
Roberto Lara says, I was going to check Occupy Democrats if they're praising Jussie.
Guess they blocked me on Facebook and Twitter.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So welcoming.
Real facts.
So honest.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
They blocked a lot of people, I guess.
tim pool
On special, Noob says, Tim, Timmy, Timothy, please oh please name the next rooster of Chicken City, Dwayne the Cock Johnson.
unidentified
Oh my god!
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
That's a good one.
That is pretty good.
lydia smith
Terry loves it.
terry schilling
I saw one earlier, I was watching the chicken feed over there, and someone said, uh, Cluck Norris.
lydia smith
Oh, I like that, too.
terry schilling
I thought that was pretty good.
tim pool
Well, the original idea we had was that all of our original chickens have regular names and their last names are bird puns.
So we've got Sarah Avenberg.
We have Roberto Beeks.
And he's the father of all of the babies, so basically every new baby is a Beeks, part of the Beeks family.
So Roberto Jr.
Beeks.
Then we have Vanessa Peckingham.
Margaret Hatcher.
That was brilliant.
That was handy, I'm pretty sure.
lydia smith
I'm sure it was.
terry schilling
That's genius.
That's very good.
That was very good.
tim pool
Margaret Hatcher, that was brilliant.
And Carol Cluck.
One of my favorites, though, is Katarina Kurica.
unidentified
Yeah, I like that.
lydia smith
Russian for bird?
tim pool
Russian for chicken.
lydia smith
Ah, gotcha.
tim pool
Yeah, the name is Catherine Chicken.
lydia smith
That's cute.
tim pool
We just literally called her Chicken.
I think it's great.
terry schilling
Yeah, no, it's very good.
lydia smith
Roberto Pollo.
tim pool
Look, it works.
That's right.
And now we have, I think downstairs right now, 24 babies.
terry schilling
There's a lot.
lydia smith
So many.
tim pool
Yeah, because we also had some delivered.
And then we've got... They're so cute.
34 incubating.
So out of the 22 incubated we did, the first incubation, only 12 actually made it.
Some of them appeared to not be fertilized and one of them stopped developing halfway through.
terry schilling
My wife and I, to keep our kids busy during COVID, and also we were kind of worried the world's gonna fall apart, we got a bunch of chickens.
And it's devastating.
Like when we did, I think we hatched six and only three came.
And it was just devastating because you just wait and wait and wait.
It's a fun, fun little hobby though.
tim pool
You know what the sad thing is though?
You really should not expect to have chickens and treat them like pets that you care about, to be honest.
terry schilling
No.
tim pool
Because we've got, you know, we care about our chickens, we love our chickens, but you can't really have a bunch of girl and boy chickens.
You can't do it.
So we have Roberto and Roberto Jr., and they have to be retired off to the boys' dormitory, which means they're gonna go off to other property and they're gonna live with all the boys, because you really just can't have all these babies that are being born, the boys, once they get to a certain age, off to the boys' dorm.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because all the roosters can live together. I am really, really excited for when we unleash like
50 fully grown roosters onto the property to just like graze.
And I'm wondering what, you know, predators would think. Because roosters are- They're mean.
Yeah. And you know, a fox could take one rooster for sure, but not for-
Not 50.
terry schilling
No, that fox is dead.
tim pool
Yep.
Just imagine the fox is like crawling through the tall grass seeing a rooster.
terry schilling
He thinks it's all hens.
He doesn't know.
tim pool
Well, he just sees the one rooster and he's like, I'm going to eat this, this, this, you know, fowl.
And then all of a sudden he jumps for it.
And you just hear like all this insane.
And they all just run in and they're jump kicking it and scratching it and pecking it.
And then the roosters eat the fox.
terry schilling
We need a chicken cartoon series, like a chicken cartoon series.
lydia smith
We have one, I think.
unidentified
Chicken?
lydia smith
Yeah, the Kent one.
seamus coughlin
Actually, they went to this guy named Kent.
lydia smith
Oh, I know.
seamus coughlin
It's an anime.
No, Kent's pretty cool.
lydia smith
He's so funny.
seamus coughlin
Kent's pretty cool.
We love Kent.
tim pool
Yeah, so we do like, we have cartoons in our vlog periodically, and some of them are just like, you know, the chickens doing chicken stuff.
Yep.
JC says, read No Winter Lasts Forever, a vigilante thriller about mass shootings by Jonathan Epps.
lydia smith
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
Interesting.
That's a good question.
So I heard about the consecration of Russia and Ukraine on March 25th.
What does that mean?
That's very beautiful.
So he's going to consecrate Russia and consecrate Ukraine.
Russia and Ukraine on March 25th?
seamus coughlin
That's a good question.
So I heard about the consecration of Russia and Ukraine on March 25th.
tim pool
What does that mean?
seamus coughlin
That's very beautiful.
So he's going to consecrate Russia and consecrate Ukraine.
I can't really give any more details than that.
I didn't really hear his statement from today.
You may have?
You're also Catholic?
terry schilling
I didn't hear the statement, but there's something big about consecrating Russia to God.
It's all your related. I'm sorry consecrating Russia to God and
it's all related like the Fatima appearances and Yeah, basically Mary told those three little kids that saw
her that if that the Poe or the church needed to consecrate Russia to
God and if he didn't that Russia would spread her arrows our errors all throughout the world and
And...
It never happened.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so this is interesting because this is a little beyond my pay grade, but there's discussion over whether Russia was consecrated under John Paul II because there was a consecration of the world that we were sort of told was a consecration of Russia, but it's argued that to consecrate something is to set it aside.
What does it mean?
tim pool
Is it a special thing for Russia?
seamus coughlin
It's good for Russia?
Let me double check, but I believe it's to consecrate Russia to Mary's Immaculate Heart.
terry schilling
Yeah, it's basically saying, like, I don't even know what consequence.
It's kind of like a better blessing.
It's like a blessing and a dedication.
Like you are now going to be serving God.
unidentified
Well, all right, then.
tim pool
All right.
Alex says, Tim, I've had enough.
Banning Elote is the last straw.
Cancel Chicago.
Yeah, we were pissed.
We would go to the, we would go to Venom Park.
That's where we would skate at tennis court.
We'd skate in there.
And then this like working class dude, you know, probably an immigrant or something.
He's coming up with a hard, honest day's work.
And he says, young, young friends, I have come to bring you delicious corn with mayonnaise on it.
And we were, we would run up and we'd be like throwing money at him because it's good.
terry schilling
It's really good.
tim pool
And, and it was a service provided to us that we were, that we appreciated.
And then one day they stopped, shut up.
They also had these little like, um, Orange wheel-looking things?
I don't know what they were made of.
And they had, uh, yeah.
So they had, like, different kinds of snacks.
I think they might have had pork rinds, too.
unidentified
Wheel-looking things?
lydia smith
Like crunchy things?
tim pool
Yeah, it's like orange, crunchy things that look like wheels.
unidentified
That sounds good.
tim pool
And, like, we would get corn.
lydia smith
I'm hungry.
tim pool
Some people would just go for the corn and the cob, and then they, you know, put all the stuff on it and you just eat it.
That's my preferred.
Yeah, put it in the cup.
And it's just, it's crazy to me that they took that away from us.
You know what started happening then?
Ice cream trucks started coming.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
So we went from eating corn.
terry schilling
Good for you.
tim pool
To ice cream.
lydia smith
Better for you.
tim pool
Man.
Man, that ice cream guy was crazy though.
True story.
The ice cream guy who'd come to the park didn't know what money was.
Totally serious.
Yeah, a weird thing happened where...
Someone, it was like a dollar for an ice cream cone.
Someone went up to him and was like, I only got 80 cents.
Is that enough?
And the guy was like, he didn't speak English.
He was like, yeah.
And then the kid put the money in his hand.
He was like, oh, thank you.
And then he went and told everybody, like, I just gave him 80 cents.
It was okay.
And so people were like, okay.
So then people went up, like, how about 50 cents?
And he was like, yeah.
And he would take it, give him the cone.
And we were like, and then one day people realized, like, I'm going to offer him something else.
And someone gave him like a bike peg.
They walked up and they had it in their hand and they found it in the trash and they were like, here.
And they put it in his hand and he gave him an ice cream cone.
And then somebody, people were like, what?
So then people would give him hands of, like, handfuls of wood chips.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
They would give him, like, shattered bits of plastic and he would accept it.
True story.
Seriously, it was weird.
And then one day he showed up and someone tried giving him wood chips from the playground and he was like, no.
And then inside the machine was a dollar taped to, like, the side and he would look at it and point at it.
lydia smith
He got smart.
tim pool
Yeah, it was really weird.
It was really, really weird.
Yeah, Southside.
I don't know.
Strange stories, man.
Strange stories.
All right, let's see.
Laura T says, please cover the DA dropping the charges against the lefty security guard, Matthew Doloff, who shot Lee Keltner.
What's that about?
I don't know what that's about.
Yeah, no idea.
We'll have to look into it, I suppose.
All right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, quote, The two most important days in life are the day you were born and the day you discover the reason why.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
Mark Twain.
Any thoughts on that at all?
Um, what is it, what is it, what is it meant to mean?
The reason why you were born?
Like your purpose in life?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Something like that.
tim pool
I was born to complain on the internet, I suppose.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
tim pool
Discovered that.
Here we are.
36 years old.
It only took me, uh, you know, 20 some odd years.
28 years?
lydia smith
Figured out.
tim pool
Yep.
Glycerin Go says, coming from your Keen and Emmons podcast about cuties, I'm reminded of the beginning of Brave New World.
Do you think we're heading in that direction where taboos are being broken for the sake of it?
I feel like there's more taboos than ever.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know about breaking it for the sake of it.
I think people want, they want to play life on God mode.
Like video games.
They're tired.
It's a, it's a, it's a big mistake.
You ever, you ever played, you guys have played video games, I imagine, of course.
seamus coughlin
A little bit.
Not, not extensively.
tim pool
So, you know, let's say you're playing Fallout 3, one of my favorite games ever.
Well, on your PlayStation, you can play the game as defined by the parameters of the game.
So you find weapons, you go on missions, you win the game.
On a computer, however, you have access to what's called console commands, where you can basically spawn objects, cheat.
You can do whatever you want.
And after a while of playing the game, you're like, I would like to do things I can't normally do and have the game be easy, so you make yourself invincible, or you make yourself bigger, or you give yourself infinite weapons, but the game becomes boring fast.
Because there is no game when you have access to anything and everything you want.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
tim pool
So I wonder if what might actually happen is that when people go into the Metaverse, and they get to experience a virtual world where they can do anything, they say, this is boring.
seamus coughlin
Well, isn't there a line like that in the original Matrix?
Where he says something like, the original Matrix was blissful, but the human brain rejected it.
tim pool
They needed struggle, and conflict, and strife.
Because when it was perfect, people just rejected it.
And that's probably it.
It's boring!
seamus coughlin
It gets boring, yeah.
I remember when I was a young'un, I discovered debug mode for Sonic the Hedgehog, that if you just pressed the controller certain ways, you could create whatever objects you want, and the game got very boring very quickly.
There's nothing to play for.
tim pool
I think a lot of people really want us to open up an O'Donnell's.
seamus coughlin
Yeah!
tim pool
O'Donnell's.
Someone said O'Donnell's.
seamus coughlin
You know what?
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Why don't you guys open it up?
tim pool
I'm gonna open a burger shop called Seamus's.
seamus coughlin
What?
You can't do that to me.
tim pool
And the funny thing is, I gotta be honest, Seamus, it will be hard for people to figure out how to pronounce it.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
They're like, Seamus's?
Why don't I go there?
tim pool
But it'll be like S-E-A-M-U-S-E-S.
seamus coughlin
Dude, when I was a youngin', let me tell you another youngin' story.
I was competing in a high school film festival, and my name's been butchered really bad, but I got the announcer referring to me as Seamstress Copland when I won an award.
tim pool
Seamstress?
seamus coughlin
Seamstress Copland.
unidentified
That's amazing!
seamus coughlin
I was like, well, you know what?
That's just my burden.
tim pool
I had a friend named Sean, S-E-A-N, and we had a substitute teacher who came in, was doing roll call, and she was like, scene!
And then everyone laughed.
It's like he raises his hand.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I knew someone whose name was Sean, or I suppose you could say should have been Sean.
It was spelled S-E-A-N, but like he and his family pronounced it seen.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
That's not right.
Not common.
That must have confused a lot of people, too.
lydia smith
That's annoying.
terry schilling
You think it's a joke, right?
Like, oh, no, actually it's seen.
lydia smith
Yeah, geez.
tim pool
Dasher says, World War 3 will be called the Great Oil War if the Saudis switch from selling the oil from US dollars to the Chinese Yuan.
It will create more chaos than World War 2, but only to China.
So it's just like, they'll still be selling, you know, oil for dollars, except to China.
But once that happens, China's currency is instantly stronger, and then international investment can move in for China way more.
So the amount of value China will gain from that one move, and the amount of value that the U.S.
dollar will lose from that one move is massive.
So buy it while you can before it's too late, I suppose.
But I think inflation is on the way.
All right, we'll get one more.
Brand Dizzle says, name the restaurant Seamuses.
unidentified
Sea Muses.
tim pool
It'll be Seamus as a mermaid singing a siren song.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course.
That's what I usually do.
Just be natural.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
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Terry, you want to shout anything out?
terry schilling
Yeah, no, this was a great time.
I really enjoyed the conversation.
You guys keep me on my toes.
And I have a bunch of family friends from back home who have been texting me this whole time.
Right on!
unidentified
This is great.
Awesome.
tim pool
Cool, man.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it was awesome having you on.
I'm really looking forward to the discussion on the after show.
I want to maybe get more into your foundation.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll talk family stuff.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I think that's awesome.
Also, I want to issue a correction here.
I said this, maybe I'm being a little pedantic with myself, and I sort of touched on it, but with the creation of souls.
I was discussing about sex as procreative and creating souls, of course.
As Catholics, we believe God creates souls, so I don't want to mislead people about the teaching there.
I want to make this point.
You guys should definitely check out Freedom Tunes.
They're gonna be releasing a cartoon tomorrow.
I'm gonna describe it very dryly, but it's just basically on how World War 2 nostalgia is constantly being thrown at us over the years to encourage us to fight new wars, and we continually fall for it for whatever reason.
I hope we don't this time.
Thank you very much for watching, and we'll see you on the after show.
lydia smith
Very cool.
I saw a suggestion in the chat for Jesse Pullet for one of the chickens, which I think is a great name.
Please keep sending me all your suggestions.
You guys can send me your suggestions for chicken names over on Twitter at Sour Patchlets and on Mines.com as well.
tim pool
I feel bad for that chicken.
I can't do that.
lydia smith
Jesse Pullet.
It's adorable, though.
I like it.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We will see you over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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