Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Sunday Uncensored: Lauren Southern Member Podcast: Countries Deny Black People Refugee Access During Ukraine Crisis, Show Talks Flat Earth, Lauren Has A Sword
Aired: 2022-03-06
Duration: 47:29


=== Making America Great Again Chat Group (03:24) ===

[00:00:00]  Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
[00:00:04]  Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com, and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show.
[00:00:15]  If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com.
[00:00:20]  Now, enjoy the show.
[00:00:24]  When you go in there, we literally fucking gaslight you.
[00:00:26]  We sell gas lamps and you come in there and we're like, no, we don't sell gas lamps.
[00:00:30]  You're crazy.
[00:00:32]  That's insane.
[00:00:33]  I pressed record while you were talking.
[00:00:34]  Yes.
[00:00:36]  Well, now all of our ideas are being taken.
[00:00:38]  So I want to know, we were just talking about you getting knocked out of the band out of the country or something.
[00:00:42]  Do you want to talk about that on the after show?
[00:00:44]  What happened?
[00:00:45]  Okay, so I had a layover in the U.S.
[00:00:48]  to go back to Australia.
[00:00:49]  This was like when COVID was just coming about and I was super scared, wanted to get back to my family.
[00:00:54]  And they brought me in for like eight, I'm not joking, eight hours of questioning.
[00:00:58]  I had my son with me, so he was like crawling around trying to take care of him.
[00:01:02]  Well, they're like, tell us about your movies.
[00:01:03]  What kind of movies do you make?
[00:01:05]  Are they racist movies?
[00:01:06]  Are they extremist movies?
[00:01:09]  Oh, you're against immigrants, this, that.
[00:01:11]  Then they went through my phone, and this is U.S.
[00:01:13]  border security.
[00:01:14]  They went through my phone and found a chat group called Make America Great Again.
[00:01:18]  It didn't even have any messages in it.
[00:01:19]  It was just one of those chat groups someone had invited me to.
[00:01:22]  And, oh, I just realized I didn't have my headphones on.
[00:01:24]  I'm in a group called MAGA Country.
[00:01:25]  Yeah.
[00:01:26]  Well, that's what Chicago is, right?
[00:01:29]  Right, exactly.
[00:01:30]  But they said that that was a point of concern for them, that I was in a group called Make America Great Again, and they denied my entry and they did that three times to me and just basically filibustered me every time I went in.
[00:01:42]  You flew in and they made you fly back?
[00:01:44]  Come into my country intending to make it great?
[00:01:46]  Absolutely not!
[00:01:48]  Yeah, you're Canadian, Lauren, what are you doing?
[00:01:50]  I'm shocked they let me in this time.
[00:01:51]  No, but they have the security in Canada before you go.
[00:01:55]  No, no, Lauren, Lauren, those border, it was CBP?
[00:01:59]  Yeah, they were correct to stop you.
[00:02:02]  You're a Canadian talking about making America great again.
[00:02:06]  They're probably looking at this person like, we don't want a Canadian to create an idea of greatness in America.
[00:02:11]  True.
[00:02:11]  We burned down the White House.
[00:02:14]  Cause like as far, all they know is you could be like a little Trudeau.
[00:02:18]  And what if Trudeau was like, I'm going to go to America, make it great.
[00:02:20]  They'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:02:22]  We don't need your help.
[00:02:24]  We don't like you Canadian immigrants.
[00:02:26]  Let's talk about the story here from the Daily Mail.
[00:02:29]  I find this interesting.
[00:02:29]  Before we do this, can I clarify about this Japanese people smelling underwear thing?
[00:02:34]  Because what the fuck?
[00:02:36]  We talked about this briefly.
[00:02:36]  You didn't know this?
[00:02:37]  No.
[00:02:38]  I'm not saying I don't believe it.
[00:02:39]  I'm just saying I never heard of it before.
[00:02:40]  So you're saying they come out, like a 14-year-old can go to a vending machine?
[00:02:44]  Yes.
[00:02:45]  That's fucking crazy.
[00:02:46]  And you know those little toy balls that you can get where you pop it open and it's a boo?
[00:02:51]  It's in those.
[00:02:51]  And they've got, like, 20-story sex motels.
[00:02:54]  Well, the famous one is five stories.
[00:02:57]  There's a famous five-story sex shop.
[00:03:00]  But Ian, they have a chain of masturbation stores.
[00:03:04]  You literally walk in and there's, like, women's panties in little boxes and they hand you a cum-stained towel.
[00:03:11]  I am not exaggerating.
[00:03:12]  That's disgusting.
[00:03:13]  And then you say, and they can put you in a room, and some of the rooms people can watch you.
[00:03:18]  And there's like, so I saw these signs everywhere.
[00:03:20]  It's like, I don't know what the sign was.
[00:03:21]  And then I was like, what's that?
[00:03:22]  And they were like, oh, uh, masturbation.

=== Migrant Challenges Along the Border (08:30) ===

[00:03:25]  And I was like, what?
[00:03:26]  And so I was like, we gotta go and check one out.
[00:03:29]  Did you do it?
[00:03:30]  We didn't, we ain't going away.
[00:03:31]  The answer is yes, but it's complicated.
[00:03:34]  Look, look, look.
[00:03:35]  It's complicated.
[00:03:36]  We went to the sex store when we were in Japan.
[00:03:39]  So I went to Fukushima.
[00:03:42]  And while I was in Tokyo, we went and checked out the sex store, and then we went and checked out one of their masturbation stores, and they have panties, magazines, used, like, just whatever.
[00:03:52]  Garbage.
[00:03:53]  Imagine getting nuked so bad.
[00:03:55]  I know, right?
[00:03:56]  It's like, it's underwear that looks, seems dirty, and then there's a picture, but there's no- It seems?
[00:04:00]  It's not seems.
[00:04:01]  Oh, it is, so it is.
[00:04:02]  Is it DNA trace, like, you know it's that girl, or are they just giving a hot girl some dirty underwear?
[00:04:06]  Ian, you're overthinking things.
[00:04:07]  I'm getting ahead of myself.
[00:04:09]  They are very perverted over there.
[00:04:10]  But how about we do this?
[00:04:12]  In order to make the segue work, Japan also, perverted but also, strict immigration laws.
[00:04:20]  Which is really interesting because apparently Poland also does.
[00:04:23]  We have this story from the Daily Mail.
[00:04:25]  African refugees fleeing Ukraine are facing shockingly racist treatment with border guards blocking their attempts to cross the border into Poland, continental leaders claim.
[00:04:34]  Black people- so a Nigerian family was told no blacks as they tried boarding a bus to safety.
[00:04:39]  Corinne Sky, a British Zimbabwean mother of one, was threatened at gunpoint.
[00:04:44]  African government officials have condemned the treatment of their citizens.
[00:04:46]  So this- if those stories are true, it sounds like racism.
[00:04:49]  Well, what I'm thinking is, so Poland already wasn't letting in mass amounts of migrants, because there has been migration in Europe used for warfare or gray zone warfare purposes.
[00:05:01]  Even Turkey has said, we're going to unleash the migrants on you guys.
[00:05:05]  Right.
[00:05:05]  And so there has always been this border conflict in Hungary and Poland, particularly with African
[00:05:10]  and Middle Eastern migrants trying to get in.
[00:05:14]  And unfortunately, if they are Ukrainian Nigerian or something, they're not really going to
[00:05:18]  have much to tell beyond just the racial aspect.
[00:05:21]  So I don't know if it's so much that's been a policy like, no, we're not letting in mass
[00:05:24]  migration, but we are letting in Ukrainians fleeing war since we know they're fleeing
[00:05:28]  war and they're just using skin color to determine.
[00:05:31]  Right.
[00:05:32]  Well, I think...
[00:05:33]  Racism.
[00:05:36]  It's a type of racism, but what I'm saying is they're not deliberately—this is just a potential answer—they're not deliberately doing it.
[00:05:44]  It's because you're a black person, so if you're fleeing war in Ukraine, you can't come in, but a Ukrainian can.
[00:05:50]  I'm not sure you actually have a legitimate refugee claim, unlike a Ukrainian, because we have so many African and Middle Eastern migrants come without legitimate refugee claims.
[00:06:00]  So the issue, I suppose, is if a black person goes to the border and they're threatened, just turn around and they don't process them or even ask them questions, I think it's an issue of racism.
[00:06:11]  Like, not racism in the sense that they think they're better, but they're like, we don't even care to process you, we don't know who you are, where you're from, but you look a certain way.
[00:06:17]  Okay, but the problem with the processing, right, is like the American border have dedicated all their time to processing and they don't even have time to actually deport people anymore.
[00:06:24]  Like, it's so overwhelmed that Oh, I get it.
[00:06:27]  Basically, there just literally is not the time.
[00:06:30]  And when you process someone, when you actually bring them in and you have to do a case, these
[00:06:33]  can take years.
[00:06:34]  Oh, I get it.
[00:06:35]  And there literally is not the space or the ability for these governments to do it with
[00:06:39]  all of the people coming in.
[00:06:40]  So I think there's an issue of like, what if you're a black or Asian person born in
[00:06:46]  Ukraine?
[00:06:47]  Yeah, that's a serious issue.
[00:06:49]  That's like, messed up, eh?
[00:06:50]  But I suppose, I'll tell you this, if you were, and they said, you can't come, you started speaking fluent Ukrainian, saying like, I'm from here, I live here, I need help, they probably might be like, oh, okay.
[00:07:01]  Because I don't think, again, it's like, I'm sure a lot of it is racist.
[00:07:05]  I'm sure there's a lot of it, though, that's like what you were saying, they're basically profiling people.
[00:07:09]  If you are from Ukraine, you're our neighbor, we're gonna bring you in.
[00:07:12]  If you're not, we don't have room because we're trying to save people who are at war.
[00:07:15]  And that's one of the issues with the immigration in the U.S.
[00:07:17]  is, like, people who are coming from Africa to Brazil and then coming to the United States, it's like, yo, dude, come on.
[00:07:23]  When I was... You can stay in Brazil.
[00:07:25]  Brazil's fucking awesome.
[00:07:26]  Well, a lot of the Haitians that come over are already living in Brazil, Chile, and all these secondary countries.
[00:07:30]  They're not usually coming from Haiti.
[00:07:31]  But when I was in Reynosa, Mexico in December, interviewing migrants coming into the U.S., one of the guys I met was Nigerian, wealthy, and he literally had like Invisalign in, and he's like, oh, do you want to talk?
[00:07:43]  How's it going?
[00:07:44]  Oh, yeah, I'm going up to Canada.
[00:07:46]  I want to go live in Nova Scotia.
[00:07:48]  Is that how he said it?
[00:07:49]  Yeah.
[00:07:50]  He said he had a friend there and I'm like, wait, so you're just, he's like, yeah, I flew through Brazil.
[00:07:54]  I've been going on this cool little journey going through this way.
[00:07:57]  And I'm like, did you need to?
[00:07:59]  He's like, no, just kind of wanted to.
[00:08:00]  I'm like, you're insane, dude, first of all.
[00:08:02]  But there's actually trafficking that happens.
[00:08:05]  It costs like $50,000 of Chinese, Afghan, People from Dubai, people that have a lot of money that don't want to wait in the American immigration system.
[00:08:13]  So they go through Mexico and they'll pay like 50 grand.
[00:08:16]  Oh, I have a Ukrainian friend and we've talked regularly about like, how does someone from Ukraine come to the United States?
[00:08:24]  Because I was like, I'd love for you to visit.
[00:08:25]  It'd be a lot of fun.
[00:08:26]  And she can't because it's fucking impossible.
[00:08:30]  But one thing she said was, it's bullshit that if I just flew to Mexico, I could walk right in.
[00:08:35]  And I laughed and I'm like, isn't it funny?
[00:08:37]  Because people do that.
[00:08:38]  And they don't care.
[00:08:38]  They get away with it.
[00:08:40]  Yeah, you can and you can't.
[00:08:42]  On certain borders, if you're white, maybe you could get away with it because they've got, like, you can't harm gringo rules in a lot of areas.
[00:08:50]  But if you walk across the border by yourself in certain cartel run areas, they'll shoot and kill you because they don't want people thinking they can go without the cartel.
[00:08:58]  But there are areas, like in California, where you just walk through.
[00:09:02]  Like, you walk through a checkpoint.
[00:09:03]  Yeah.
[00:09:04]  So like official checkpoints.
[00:09:05]  Yes.
[00:09:06]  You can either.
[00:09:07]  So for people who are trying to avoid the official checkpoints, you have to go through the cartel.
[00:09:12]  But if you're going to an official checkpoint, then you're planning on turning yourself in.
[00:09:16]  You can do that.
[00:09:17]  There are checkpoints where you don't actually get checked.
[00:09:19]  So I don't think Americans know this.
[00:09:21]  You can walk through and wave.
[00:09:23]  Just walking there.
[00:09:25]  So I don't know exactly if it was Calexico and Mexicali.
[00:09:29]  Have you been there?
[00:09:30]  No, I mostly did Tamaulipas.
[00:09:32]  There's like a fence.
[00:09:33]  You can like see it's like urban on one side, it's Mexico and it's like all urban.
[00:09:36]  So people walk to and from because someone might live in one country and work in the other.
[00:09:40]  And there's such, because it's basically one metropolitan area.
[00:09:44]  I don't know if it was exactly this place where it was happening, but when I was down at the border and we were covering it, it was explained to us that there's like real ease of access where people don't even show their IDs or anything.
[00:09:56]  It's just like you just walk through and they say, okay, okay, you're good.
[00:09:59]  You walk through and stop and they say, okay, you're good and you're good.
[00:10:02]  Yeah.
[00:10:02]  Super simple.
[00:10:03]  Are they like looking for locals or something?
[00:10:07]  Hey, it's Kimberly Fletcher here from Moms4America with some very exciting news.
[00:10:12]  Tucker Carlson is going on a nationwide tour this fall and Moms4America has the exclusive VIP meet and greet experience for you.
[00:10:22]  Before each show, you can have the opportunity to meet Tucker Carlson in person.
[00:10:27]  These tickets are fully tax-deductible donations, so go to momsforamerica.us and get one of our very limited VIP meet and greet experiences with Tucker at any of the 15 cities on his first ever Coast to Coast tour.
[00:10:42]  Not only will you be supporting Moms for America in our mission to empower moms, promote liberty, and raise patriots, your tax-deductible donation secures you a full VIP experience with priority entrance and check-in, premium gold seating in the first five rows, access to a pre-show cocktail reception, an individual meet-and-greet, and photo with America's most famous conservative and our friend, Tucker Carlson.
[00:11:09]  Visit momsforamerica.us today for more information and to secure your exclusive VIP meet and greet tickets.
[00:11:17]  See you on the tour!
[00:11:18]  Bye!
[00:11:26]  Like when they say, you're good, you're good?
[00:11:28]  So my understanding is that there are people who basically just walk through because they live and work in the same metropolitan area.
[00:11:32]  This was like the Guatemala border when I was there.
[00:11:34]  So you'll have literal illegal crossings underneath bridges that are official crossings.
[00:11:40]  And they'll just do that.
[00:11:41]  And they do it to avoid taxes because these people wouldn't be able to afford to have a business if they didn't just do the illegal crossings and these little... They use like two tubes and put pieces of wood on them and just take it back and forth from Guatemala and Mexico.
[00:11:53]  It's like a de facto not even existence.

=== Border Bypass Adventures (02:11) ===

[00:11:56]  I think it's, someone told me it was like this by Tijuana.
[00:11:58]  That people just drive through.
[00:12:00]  Like you drive slowly through and they just wave and you just go.
[00:12:03]  Because there's so much tourism and stuff, they don't even bother.
[00:12:05]  It happened to me, but that was like 20 years ago.
[00:12:07]  That did happen, they just waved at us and let us through.
[00:12:09]  Well if you don't have social systems, you can kind of do that.
[00:12:11]  You can get away with that.
[00:12:12]  Well they didn't have, you didn't need a passport back then.
[00:12:14]  Right.
[00:12:15]  We had an American car, California license plates.
[00:12:17]  I know someone who got through without a passport.
[00:12:20]  He was a citizen who was born and raised here.
[00:12:22]  He's a good friend of mine, or I guess as you say, a friend of my brother's who's Mexican, born and raised in the States.
[00:12:27]  He was going down to Mexico, didn't bring his passport, but he was able to get back in without it.
[00:12:34]  So when I drove from Chicago to LA, I drove from Chicago to San Diego.
[00:12:39]  So I was trying to find a way to get from Chicago to LA and some guy was doing a ride share.
[00:12:42]  He's like, I got a couple cars.
[00:12:43]  I need someone to help me drive.
[00:12:44]  So in exchange for driving this car, I got free passage, right?
[00:12:47]  I get to San Diego and he's like, you know, he's like, look, I can't get you to LA, but it's like a simple bus ride for a couple bucks.
[00:12:54]  We'll get you up to LA.
[00:12:55]  And I was like, sounds good to me.
[00:12:56]  So then I go to San Diego, I get on the bus.
[00:12:58]  And as we're driving up to LA, we get pulled over by, I think it was like, you know, ICE or whatever.
[00:13:04]  And they come on and they start, the ICE guy like walks through looking at everybody
[00:13:08]  and then he stops at me and he goes, let me see your ID.
[00:13:11]  And then I was like, all right, I pull up my ID and hand it to him and he goes,
[00:13:13]  what's your name?
[00:13:14]  And I was like, Tim Pool.
[00:13:15]  And he's like, birthday, and I gave him my birthday.
[00:13:16]  And he goes, what's your favorite baseball team?
[00:13:18]  And I was like, I don't, Sox, I guess, I'm from Chicago.
[00:13:21]  I don't watch baseball, man.
[00:13:22]  And then he was like, all right, you're good.
[00:13:24]  He gave me, you know, card back.
[00:13:25]  So like, he asked me like.
[00:13:27]  little culture test.
[00:13:28]  No, but it was, right, it was like, he said, when he asked me about, he was like, what's your birthday?
[00:13:34]  And then right as I was like halfway through answering, he goes, favorite baseball team.
[00:13:37]  And then I was just like, oh, Sox from the South Side, man.
[00:13:41]  I was like, I don't, I don't like baseball.
[00:13:42]  I had a skateboard with me.
[00:13:43]  I was like, dude, you're asking a skateboarder if they like baseball?
[00:13:45]  I'm gonna tell you what.
[00:13:47]  But- And my brother is skateboards and he loves baseball.
[00:13:50]  So he would've been the one guy.
[00:13:52]  No, there are skateboards like baseball, you know.
[00:13:53]  I'm just saying like, but it was interesting.
[00:13:55]  It's a culture test, you know?
[00:13:57]  Because they're like looking for me to sweat and be like, my favorite team are the New York Yankees.
[00:14:02]  Their record is this.
[00:14:03]  Yeah.
[00:14:03]  Okay.
[00:14:03]  So this doesn't go public, right?
[00:14:05]  This is like for your like inside group of people.

=== Cultural Tests in Morocco (03:46) ===

[00:14:07]  I mean, it's public.
[00:14:08]  They'll clip it all and put it on Twitter.
[00:14:11]  So like I had a border guard that was like going off at me about, Oh, like I love QAnon.
[00:14:16]  I love this.
[00:14:16]  And I'm like, is this bait?
[00:14:19]  Are you baiting me to, like, say something?
[00:14:21]  Yeah, of course.
[00:14:22]  Okay.
[00:14:22]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:14:24]  I came back from... I can't remember which country I came back from.
[00:14:28]  And then I had a border guard.
[00:14:29]  I went to the checkpoint and they have the thing, you know, the hand scanners and all that stuff.
[00:14:33]  I never do that.
[00:14:33]  I'm like, I'm an American goddamn, but I go up there and take my passport and the guy goes through it and then he's
[00:14:39]  like Scans it and he goes handsome
[00:14:41]  He goes but go back and go over to that guy and that never happened before and I was like, okay
[00:14:45]  and then I walk over and there's another guy who brings me up to like a counter and takes my bag and opens my
[00:14:50]  Bag and then he takes my exactly miss your passport and he opens it and he shows me the Arabic and it's like what's
[00:14:55]  that?
[00:14:56]  And I was like, uh, that one's, I think, Morocco.
[00:14:59]  And he's like, what were you doing there?
[00:15:00]  And I was like, visiting Morocco?
[00:15:03]  Like, I don't know, what am I supposed to say to that?
[00:15:04]  Like, what was I doing there?
[00:15:05]  I was like, there was a conference or something, and I was hanging out in Marrakesh.
[00:15:09]  And then he goes through it, and he's like, what's that?
[00:15:11]  I'm like, it says Egypt on it.
[00:15:12]  What were you doing in Egypt?
[00:15:13]  And I was like, Checking out Egypt, I guess?
[00:15:17]  They get pressed when you travel a lot.
[00:15:19]  Oh, they lost it at my Russian visa today.
[00:15:22]  But he only asked me about Arabic.
[00:15:23]  And I was just like, I guess.
[00:15:26]  I don't know.
[00:15:26]  What'd they do with the Russian visa?
[00:15:28]  Oh, they just like I could see when she opened it.
[00:15:31]  She like looked at it and it looks bad.
[00:15:32]  Like I'm like in all black and I've got red lipstick and it's just like Russian letters everywhere and the full page and she's just like, holy shit, you're coming with us.
[00:15:40]  Black widow.
[00:15:41]  Yeah.
[00:15:42]  But they yeah, they really they get pressed about if you travel, travel a lot.
[00:15:46]  This xenophobe during war thing is nuts, man.
[00:15:48]  Because remember the Japanese internment camps in California during World War II?
[00:15:52]  And it was almost like, did they have to do that?
[00:15:54]  Should they have done that?
[00:15:55]  Because I think they should have.
[00:15:57]  Or should they not have?
[00:15:59]  You're pushing Putin talking points there.
[00:16:03]  If they hadn't, would they have been like Japanese spies, just like tearing up the infrastructure in California and opening the walls for the invading army?
[00:16:11]  I think when things get to a certain level, there is a thin layer of civility, is what I'll say.
[00:16:17]  And as soon as that's broken, people will just do the most horrific things.
[00:16:21]  They'll shoot the prisoners, they'll put people in camps.
[00:16:24]  That's why I get worried when I see these people like, we need to start seizing Russian passports, we need to do this.
[00:16:29]  I'm like, is that thin layer of civility breaking and you guys are about to go psychotic on us?
[00:16:35]  Don't look at us!
[00:16:35]  What was Trudeau doing to those truckers up in this country?
[00:16:38]  Yeah, true!
[00:16:39]  Trudeau was like, I'm going to destroy the lives of these people for democracy.
[00:16:45]  Yeah.
[00:16:46]  And I was like, okay.
[00:16:47]  Freedom.
[00:16:48]  Freedom.
[00:16:48]  Yeah, good for him.
[00:16:49]  I hate that guy.
[00:16:50]  Because the way he talks, it's personal.
[00:16:53]  Professionally, I have questions about his ability to lead.
[00:16:56]  Personally, it's just like the way he talks is like self-help guru.
[00:17:00]  I was watching him deliver a speech in Parliament and everyone's like shouting him out like, no, yeah, fucking yeah.
[00:17:07]  And then there was applause and the noise in his voice.
[00:17:09]  We got very much like this.
[00:17:11]  And then everyone went, no, no, no, no!
[00:17:14]  It was really gross.
[00:17:16]  Parliament's so stupid.
[00:17:18]  Oh, definitely worth watching because it is a clown fucking festival.
[00:17:21]  Yeah, but no, let's be real for a second.
[00:17:23]  With all the Russia stuff happening, someone said ban them from the universities.
[00:17:26]  They vandalized their Russian club or whatever.
[00:17:29]  Yo, NPCs are the biggest threat to human civilization in my opinion.
[00:17:36]  Mindless mob violence.
[00:17:38]  Because these are the people who show up and scream, but Russians scare me!
[00:17:41]  And then the president's like, I'm gonna put Russians in camps, and they go, yay!
[00:17:46]  And then it's just like, holy shit, man.
[00:17:50]  Yeah, people don't have principles that they're grounded in.

=== Flat Earth Videos? (15:53) ===

[00:17:53]  Most people aren't raised in any kind of religious faith anymore.
[00:17:57]  And if they are, their family doesn't take it all that seriously.
[00:17:59]  And if they aren't, their family doesn't have some other philosophical system of thought that they instill in their child.
[00:18:03]  So people don't have anything to go with other than what the culture is saying.
[00:18:06]  And whatever the culture says shifts, what they believe shifts.
[00:18:09]  And they don't question it.
[00:18:10]  There could be surface-level religious people too.
[00:18:12]  No, I'm not disagreeing with that, but I guess my point is there can be surface-level religious people, there can be surface-level people of any and all philosophy, but we really don't even have a philosophy.
[00:18:22]  I mean, most people in this country don't have any bedrock underneath their moral thinking or decision-making.
[00:18:27]  They're just doing what they think is good based on popular morality, which changes all the time.
[00:18:32]  Well, Seamus, I will say if this really is a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic in the same borders fighting, it's very obvious the multicultural democracy is godless and the constitutional republic is based on Christian values.
[00:18:46]  I was going to ask you, Lauren, what was your upbringing like religiously?
[00:18:49]  I was raised in the Pentecostal and charismatic Christianity.
[00:18:54]  Oh, really?
[00:18:54]  Yeah.
[00:18:55]  Yeah.
[00:18:55]  But my father actually worked for some of the big tele-preachers in America for a little bit, just like lower level stuff.
[00:19:05]  But yeah, so I was raised on that.
[00:19:07]  But he's shifted more to what I think is a bit more of a stable kind of Christianity.
[00:19:12]  And I would consider myself I haven't done catechism or anything, but I do like the Catholic faith, so I'm still a Protestant Christian.
[00:19:27]  I wanted to ask you, so did your father's church have people speaking in tongues?
[00:19:32]  Oh yeah, so I grew up with... I'm not joking.
[00:19:34]  That's the charismatic movement.
[00:19:35]  I remember feeling horrible in Sunday school because everyone was speaking in tongues and I'm like, holy shit, the angels aren't talking to me.
[00:19:46]  So I just sit there and I'm like, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon.
[00:19:51]  Yeah.
[00:19:51]  No, that's what I've heard people say.
[00:19:53]  I've actually, so I heard it said, granted, this is from someone who is an opponent of the charismatic and Pentecostal movement, but he was saying that he went to his service and that when they were telling him how to speak in tongues, they said to say, tie a bow tie, untie a bow tie really quickly, tie a bow tie, untie a bow tie, because it sounds like you're speaking some strange, mysterious language.
[00:20:10]  Yeah.
[00:20:10]  So they're just muttering gibberish at each other?
[00:20:12]  Some of them, some of them are, I guess some of them, some of them are true believers and they really feel that they're having this experience where they are being given the gift of tongues.
[00:20:18]  They're like speaking an angelic language or like it's basically like kind of Christian magic.
[00:20:25]  That's like the charismatic.
[00:20:26]  Did you see people go into trances?
[00:20:28]  Oh yeah, like I grew up around a bit of that and like there's very little of that in Canada so it was a unique experience.
[00:20:33]  Was it real?
[00:20:34]  Like could you tell the difference between someone really channeling something or someone just bullshitting?
[00:20:42]  It's hard to tell.
[00:20:43]  I was so young.
[00:20:45]  When you're a kid, when you're like six, seven years old, everything looks real to you.
[00:20:48]  It's adults telling you something.
[00:20:50]  So it's like, you're correct.
[00:20:51]  This is what is happening right now.
[00:20:52]  And it was kind of a horrible experience to an extent because I'm like, oh my gosh, God's not talking to me.
[00:20:59]  I left my faith for a long time.
[00:21:01]  And I had to come back to it through like C.S.
[00:21:03]  Lewis and like actually reading good political, or sorry, not political, religious writings, but...
[00:21:11]  Hey guys, Josh Hammer here, the host of America on Trial with Josh Hammer, a podcast for the First Podcast Network.
[00:21:17]  Look, there are a lot of shows out there that are explaining the political news cycle, what's happening on the Hill, the this, the that.
[00:21:24]  There are no other shows that are cutting straight to the point when it comes to the unprecedented lawfare debilitating and affecting the 2024 presidential election.
[00:21:33]  We do all that every single day right here on America on Trial with Josh Hammer.
[00:21:37]  Subscribe and download your episodes wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:21:40]  America on Trial with Josh Hammer.
[00:21:42]  Quantum physics helped me find God.
[00:21:43]  I thought it was just fucking nonsense for so long.
[00:21:45]  I was like, how do these people pretend to believe this shit?
[00:21:48]  It doesn't make sense.
[00:21:49]  There's no proof.
[00:21:50]  There's none.
[00:21:50]  There's no evidence even.
[00:21:52]  There's none.
[00:21:53]  Why?
[00:21:53]  Well, can I ask you another question about the Pentecostal experience?
[00:21:56]  So was it argued that this gift of tongues was necessary in order to be saved or to believe God was talking to you?
[00:22:04]  Or was it something they thought was a gift for particular people?
[00:22:08]  Not, yeah, not necessarily.
[00:22:09]  It was, I feel like everything is cartoonized when you're in like the kids Sunday school.
[00:22:15]  Like, oh, you can all do it.
[00:22:16]  But in the wider church, they definitely had some sort of actual theological understanding that some people are granted this gift and some people aren't.
[00:22:22]  And other people are like people of different types of gifts.
[00:22:25]  It's like Dungeons and Dragons.
[00:22:26]  You have your different Christian magical powers.
[00:22:32]  And I'm sure it would change also based on the particular church, too.
[00:22:36]  For sure.
[00:22:36]  Yeah, there's a unified magisterium there, but the way there is with the Catholic faith.
[00:22:40]  But yeah, that's fascinating.
[00:22:41]  I never knew that.
[00:22:42]  Tungsten is real shit, right?
[00:22:44]  Is there one thing?
[00:22:46]  Is there anything, like, from that particular religious experience that you're still glad you had even though you're not part of it anymore?
[00:22:53]  I'm glad I had the whole experience.
[00:22:55]  I think that there's so little understanding of different denominations and religions in the West.
[00:23:01]  I have said this before.
[00:23:02]  My husband and I have spoken about this.
[00:23:04]  We would rather send our son to an Islamic school than a public school, just so they're actually taught about concepts of things higher than humanity.
[00:23:12]  You guys go to homeschool?
[00:23:14]  Actually, but on that point, It's interesting how the woke of sort of like the woke, the left, the multicultural democracy as an embrace to conservative religious movement, which clearly does not reciprocate.
[00:23:25]  And that's, that's, that's, I, so this is what something Putin was saying that the, the, the liberal economic, liberal world order makes no sense because you can't have all these different cultures under one governing authority when they're at odds with each other.
[00:23:38]  It's something, I think that's what he was saying, or the translation, I don't speak Russian, so maybe it was bullshit.
[00:23:42]  But that I find fascinating.
[00:23:44]  It's a contradiction.
[00:23:45]  Contradiction.
[00:23:46]  We saw it in Birmingham in the UK when the school was doing LGBT schooling and the Muslims protested it.
[00:23:51]  And then they claimed they were there for the Muslims.
[00:23:53]  The Muslims were like, we hate you though.
[00:23:56]  It bothers me that Saudi Arabia... Well, because they see people as pets.
[00:23:58]  I mean, they really do see different groups that they claim to stand for as pets.
[00:24:01]  Like, oh, this is my little project and I'm taking care of them and I'm going to rescue
[00:24:06]  them from the tyrannical white supremacist patriarchy and the evil Christian fascist
[00:24:10]  worldview that's being imposed on us all the time.
[00:24:12]  And of course, they're going to answer when I call them by their name.
[00:24:18]  There was a video that's going viral because of war propaganda from Mad TV.
[00:24:24]  You know the guy, Keegan-Michael Key?
[00:24:27]  He's the taller guy, right?
[00:24:29]  So he's in it.
[00:24:30]  He's on MADtv.
[00:24:32]  And it's called Al Jazeera English Speaking Channel.
[00:24:35]  And they're talking about the war in Iraq.
[00:24:37]  And every single person is acting like an American, but they keep saying, Death to America.
[00:24:42]  The funny thing is, like this was, what is this, like 2000s?
[00:24:46]  We're in the war in Iraq and on TV they're making fun of Arabic nations, Arabic speakers.
[00:24:52]  It was a dramatic shift in only a few years to fully embracing, you know, Islam and Muslims in the woke movement.
[00:24:59]  One of the jokes was pretty funny, though.
[00:25:01]  There was a guy interviewing a woman, a local woman.
[00:25:03]  He's like, he's like, I am here with a local woman.
[00:25:05]  And he was like, tell me.
[00:25:06]  And she was like, hi, my name is Sarah.
[00:25:07]  Can I say death to America to my mom and my sister?
[00:25:09]  Hi, mom!
[00:25:10]  Hi, Nazira!
[00:25:11]  Death to America!
[00:25:12]  I thought that was actually kind of funny.
[00:25:14]  But, uh, it's remarkable how quickly things have shifted.
[00:25:17]  You know, mm-hmm.
[00:25:18]  Yeah, I don't know because so much information is moving so fast So time is basically constricting time and space are the same thing.
[00:25:25]  So good.
[00:25:25]  I saw I saw a good pose I was like, do you remember when Joe Rogan was they're threatening to cancel him off of Spotify?
[00:25:30]  Is that what's got taken down?
[00:25:32]  That was a week ago.
[00:25:34]  Oh my gosh, no!
[00:25:36]  No, it's true.
[00:25:38]  That was like two weeks ago.
[00:25:40]  I mean, fuck it.
[00:25:41]  Has anyone even mentioned COVID in the last three minutes?
[00:25:44]  Remember when those truckers descended on Ottawa?
[00:25:49]  Actually, they have mentioned COVID.
[00:25:50]  As I recall, FEMA put out an announcement saying that if you have to shelter from a nuclear blast, you better make sure you're wearing a mask and staying six feet away from other people.
[00:25:58]  Which is very helpful.
[00:25:58]  And there was that, yeah, there was that person that was like, the Ukrainians are sheltering together without masks and they've only 30% vaccinated.
[00:26:05]  Oh my gosh.
[00:26:06]  And I'm sure they don't give a shit.
[00:26:08]  I don't think they give a fuck.
[00:26:09]  Crazy thing about Ukraine though is the subway stations, like thousands of feet underground.
[00:26:13]  Good for them.
[00:26:14]  Like you go down like four escalators, it was crazy.
[00:26:17]  That's helpful.
[00:26:18]  Well, the Soviets were worried about nuclear blasts.
[00:26:20]  So they said, you know, moving people and resources is the most important thing, so build your trains underground.
[00:26:26]  The train lines in Moscow are gorgeous.
[00:26:29]  Have you guys ever been in them?
[00:26:30]  Nope.
[00:26:30]  Like I was actually shocked because you know you hear a lot about the Soviet Union you're like all they did was F everything up and like they're there you know when they built ship ports and how all these slaves do it and then it wasn't wide enough and like holy Soviet stuff was back but the underground trains gorgeous a work of art.
[00:26:45]  Did they predate the Soviet Union?
[00:26:47]  No, it was like Soviet soldiers built into the wall, all of these statues, every archway has like two soldiers on either side of it.
[00:26:55]  I feel like I learned cartoonish versions of what the Soviet Union was, which made it really difficult for me to understand why when I visited, every person in Moscow was waving Soviet flags on a parade there.
[00:27:08]  I'm like, why would you celebrate this thing?
[00:27:10]  But obviously it existed for a reason.
[00:27:13]  They had people that backed it for a reason.
[00:27:16]  Let me, let me, let me, let me, uh, let me, uh, blow your fucking minds.
[00:27:20]  Oh man.
[00:27:21]  Let's go.
[00:27:21]  I'm, I'm half kidding.
[00:27:22]  You know, so one of, one of the things like me and my friends would have to talk about is what if we are in North Korea?
[00:27:27]  Oh, I get what you're saying.
[00:27:29]  Right now and we're in a fucking, our brains are plugged into the machine.
[00:27:33]  It's all a lie.
[00:27:34]  What if the country, what if in North Korea, they're actually free and they actually told the truth and we believe bullshit about them because we're the ones who are actually in the despotic regime with fake media.
[00:27:45]  Could you imagine if we lived in a country where the media was all just propping up a political party and everything was fake and they were lying about everything?
[00:27:54]  How would we even know it?
[00:27:55]  That would be wild if we lived in a country like that!
[00:27:58]  Can you imagine that?
[00:28:01]  I've actually thought about this because I mean obviously yes we are propagandized the media does lie the government lies to us all the time but on the level of North Korea I think the easy way to figure out is to travel and you two have traveled quite a bit so you would know whether we live in North Korea or not and if you tell me that we don't I know you've been paid by the regime Yes, exactly.
[00:28:18]  I think it's been long enough to where I can tell you the truth.
[00:28:23]  When you fly in a plane, you don't actually leave the ground.
[00:28:29]  They have the little TV screen windows.
[00:28:31]  It's like a wallpaper.
[00:28:34]  That's why you're locked in.
[00:28:36]  They don't want you to be able to go out and realize you're in the air.
[00:28:38]  Guys!
[00:28:39]  I knew it.
[00:28:40]  Why can't we go to Antarctica?
[00:28:41]  To actually just drive?
[00:28:42]  You can't.
[00:28:43]  You can't.
[00:28:43]  Yes.
[00:28:43]  We're going to.
[00:28:44]  It's very easy.
[00:28:45]  It's very easy to go to Antarctica.
[00:28:46]  Why did I believe that we can't go to Antarctica?
[00:28:48]  It both seems like you just get your floaties on, you dive into the... It's a scion.
[00:28:52]  Okay.
[00:28:52]  It is harder than most places for obvious reasons, but you charter passage on the cargo ships.
[00:28:59]  You need to liaise.
[00:29:01]  Stowaway.
[00:29:01]  You go there and you pay them 600 bucks.
[00:29:03]  You need to first fly down to, I think, like Chile.
[00:29:06]  Then you need to contact Antarctica and say, hey, I want to come.
[00:29:10]  You have to, you can get off the cargo ship and visit, but you have to get right back on the cargo ship because there's nowhere for you to sleep.
[00:29:15]  Right.
[00:29:16]  And so, it's very strict.
[00:29:18]  But, uh, tons of people, uh, have, like, the guys from Vice went down there several times.
[00:29:23]  Cool.
[00:29:24]  Yeah.
[00:29:25]  The cargo ships that come to resupply McMurdo Station, you can ride with them, you get out, you walk around, you do your Antarctica stuff, you get back on, you leave.
[00:29:31]  Or is it like the North Pole?
[00:29:32]  I swear there was somewhere that you couldn't fly and they won't fly planes over it.
[00:29:35]  It's just all not true.
[00:29:36]  They say you can't fly over... Wait, are you telling me I watched like 20 hours of Flat Earth videos for no reason?
[00:29:41]  Oh, there's definitely a reason.
[00:29:43]  So, check it out.
[00:29:44]  They say, why can't you fly over the North Pole?
[00:29:46]  Because there's a hole there to hollow earth.
[00:29:48]  And I'm like, I flew from New York to Hong Kong!
[00:29:51]  We went over the North Pole!
[00:29:52]  What are you talking about?
[00:29:53]  Have you ever flown over the North Pole?
[00:29:55]  Did you look out the window and down?
[00:29:57]  Yes!
[00:29:58]  I saw one of you at the exact moment that you were over the North Pole.
[00:30:01]  Did you have your compass?
[00:30:03]  I'm pretty sure that's what it was when I flew to... Where was I going?
[00:30:06]  I was going to Singapore, I think, or Thailand.
[00:30:09]  Let me pull up this stupid map.
[00:30:11]  Does it scare you having your computer open for everyone to watch?
[00:30:14]  It's a work computer.
[00:30:15]  Okay, so this is not actually Google Earth.
[00:30:17]  I need Google Earth.
[00:30:19]  Oh yeah, Google Earth isn't Google Maps.
[00:30:21]  Like, search history.
[00:30:24]  But this is a work computer, so anybody who searches on it, it's not me.
[00:30:26]  I don't use this machine.
[00:30:28]  That's what he's saying.
[00:30:28]  You have to get an excuse.
[00:30:30]  Lydia's one of these.
[00:30:31]  Anything you see.
[00:30:32]  Dude, I'm just going to search a bunch of really embarrassing stuff before next show.
[00:30:36]  I want to do Google Body next.
[00:30:38]  We can go inside a pottery.
[00:30:39]  Come on, this is Photoshop.
[00:30:41]  Everyone knows they took a picture of the Earth, and then they just textured it on an old piece of paper.
[00:30:44]  So I was in New York.
[00:30:45]  Only 80 years ago did we first get that picture of Earth?
[00:30:47]  Like, it didn't even exist.
[00:30:48]  No one knew before that.
[00:30:49]  Well, it still doesn't, Ian.
[00:30:50]  It's all fake.
[00:30:51]  No, we figured out the Earth was round like a thousand years ago.
[00:30:54]  No, way more than that.
[00:30:55]  The ancient Egyptians knew it was round a long time ago.
[00:30:57]  So when I flew from New York, you fly in a straight line over the North Pole and over all of this stuff, and then we came down and I landed in Hong Kong, and then I flew from Hong Kong to Singapore.
[00:31:08]  Are you sure?
[00:31:10]  Are you sure that they didn't just put a little video outside your window that made it seem like that's where you were going?
[00:31:23]  Have you seen the video where the guy does the experiment?
[00:31:25]  There's two videos that are really funny.
[00:31:27]  One is a guy on a plane and he's got a leveler with him and he's like, I'm going to prove the earth is flat because check it out.
[00:31:33]  If the earth is round, then what's going to happen is If you're on a spherical Earth, as the plane's going forward, it's gonna have to dip its nose down to keep leveling out as it moves down, which means I'm gonna see the leveler move.
[00:31:45]  And then he films a time lapse, and the leveler never moves, and he goes, Earth is flat, I proved it.
[00:31:51]  And it was the funniest shit I've ever seen.
[00:31:53]  The other one is a guy, and he's like, if the Earth is curved, we're gonna set up a wood, a wooden sheet here with a hole in it, We're gonna go several, like, 20 meters and do another sheet with a hole in it.
[00:32:06]  And if I hold a light up, and the Earth is flat, the light will go straight through to the other piece of wood.
[00:32:12]  But if the Earth is round, then there will be a bend, and you'll have to lift up the flashlight higher to make it through the other side.
[00:32:19]  And then he accidentally proves the Earth's round.
[00:32:21]  And he's like, wait.
[00:32:22]  Wait, hold on.
[00:32:24]  Hold on a minute.
[00:32:25]  Yeah, the Earth is round.
[00:32:26]  It turned out.
[00:32:27]  But is it flat?
[00:32:28]  I don't know.
[00:32:28]  I think it's an oblique spheroid.
[00:32:30]  I think it's hollow.
[00:32:31]  And flat.
[00:32:32]  Donut Earth.
[00:32:33]  It's a cube.
[00:32:35]  It's a hollow cube.
[00:32:36]  Why?
[00:32:38]  Earth is a cube.
[00:32:39]  Cardboard box Earth.
[00:32:41]  This one I'm real about, right?
[00:32:42]  No more memes.
[00:32:43]  The moon.
[00:32:45]  Oh no.
[00:32:45]  Why?
[00:32:46]  No!
[00:32:47]  No!
[00:32:47]  Listen to me!
[00:32:48]  Yes!
[00:32:49]  One of the biggest achievements in history was Americans landing on the moon, right?
[00:32:53]  So why don't we have the data?
[00:32:55]  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:32:57]  It would be pretty... Disprove that.
[00:32:59]  Disprove that.
[00:33:00]  Shut up.
[00:33:01]  That's why you don't go fly over the North Pole.
[00:33:03]  You actually fly up around in some Mobius strip.
[00:33:05]  You're gonna deny this picture that Neil Armstrong took himself.
[00:33:10]  Making me hungry.
[00:33:11]  Where are the moons from?
[00:33:14]  He jumped, the gravity's lighter on the moon.
[00:33:16]  Alright, alright, alright.
[00:33:17]  Lauren, please.
[00:33:18]  Lauren, I want to hear you.
[00:33:19]  Okay, but why has no other country done it?
[00:33:22]  China did.
[00:33:23]  China did.
[00:33:24]  China landed on the moon.
[00:33:26]  been since like the seventies or something like a human being and it
[00:33:29]  would be... No, no, no, it's... it's... it's... it's... we know there's no reason to.
[00:33:31]  There's boring... No, there would be. It would be an amazing achievement for
[00:33:35]  China to say we've put the boots on the ground there, we've put
[00:33:39]  a person on the moon. Why would you not want to be the second country on the
[00:33:42]  whole planet to do it?
[00:33:43]  When it's supposed to be a thousand times easier to do today. It's so simple.

=== Atlantis' Advanced Technology (12:38) ===

[00:33:47]  They'll get nothing from spending the billions of dollars to do it.
[00:33:50]  Why would it cost billions of dollars to do something they could do with the technology they had, you know, ages ago?
[00:33:55]  Because you still have to build a rocket and put people on it.
[00:33:57]  It's got to have all the return equipment.
[00:33:59]  Like, there was a reason for the US to do it during the Cold War.
[00:34:01]  It looks cool.
[00:34:02]  We were losing.
[00:34:03]  We spend so much money on useless shit all the time.
[00:34:06]  True.
[00:34:06]  This is way better useless shit.
[00:34:07]  I can imagine them going there and not publicizing it.
[00:34:10]  The US is the only country that's ever sent people there, but Russia and China have also landed craft there.
[00:34:14]  You go to China and say, Belt and Road Initiative, or divert some of those funds to the moon, they're gonna be like, what the fuck is the moon gonna get us?
[00:34:20]  What about a private company being like, let's go to the moon?
[00:34:22]  Oh yeah, moon bases are coming.
[00:34:24]  I'm pretty sure we're now going to be building a moon base.
[00:34:27]  Are we?
[00:34:30]  Yeah, what's the name of the mission?
[00:34:31]  Yes, yes, you know what's going to happen?
[00:34:33]  You know what's going to happen?
[00:34:34]  No, you're going to go there on a trip and they're going to be on the moon base going, I think that the windows on the craft had a television screen.
[00:34:41]  Right, right, right.
[00:34:41]  From five days ago, Scientific America says China plans asteroid missions, space telescopes into moon base.
[00:34:46]  No, no, Trump announced a while ago.
[00:34:48]  It's all LARPing.
[00:34:48]  They're actually writing a fanfic and just publishing it and we're all sitting here like, oh my gosh, they got a moon base.
[00:34:54]  Like you're listening to a government LARP and they're laughing their asses off.
[00:34:57]  It's called like Artemis or something.
[00:34:59]  Yeah, I think so.
[00:34:59]  And Trump, the goal is to build a base on the moon so that we can launch from the moon.
[00:35:04]  Oh yeah, there's Artemis, base camp.
[00:35:05]  It doesn't exist.
[00:35:05]  You guys are insane.
[00:35:06]  I think you're literally jealous that you didn't go.
[00:35:09]  I think you're jealous.
[00:35:11]  I was on the moon last week.
[00:35:12]  That's right.
[00:35:13]  That proves it.
[00:35:14]  Well, there's another thing.
[00:35:15]  Is it possible that the idea that the moon landing was a hoax was spread by the Russian communists because they didn't want to admit that they got beat in the space race?
[00:35:23]  I think what happened with that is they went to the moon, they got some footage, and they're like, what if it's not enough for propaganda?
[00:35:28]  So they got Kubrick to shoot a bunch of shit in a boot.
[00:35:31]  I just don't believe that.
[00:35:32]  And then when that got uncovered, they were like, the whole thing's fake.
[00:35:34]  But it was like, no, we were there, we just didn't have the footage.
[00:35:36]  That would be more believable with the amount of, like, you think of tech today, and the amount of times you F up video stuff, and it's like, oh, card corrupted.
[00:35:44]  Oh no!
[00:35:45]  Card corrupted, landed on the moon.
[00:35:46]  You know, there's only one thing that makes me question the moon landing, and it's the lander module having the fuel to return to Earth.
[00:35:57]  Pretty sus.
[00:35:59]  But I'm not saying it's impossible.
[00:36:00]  I'm just saying, like, that's a feat.
[00:36:03]  To break the gravity of the moon?
[00:36:05]  Maybe it's not that hard, actually, because the gravity of Earth would be assisting in the pullback.
[00:36:09]  Yeah, the moon is in the Earth's atmosphere.
[00:36:12]  The Earth's atmosphere is way beyond the Earth.
[00:36:15]  Most of our atmosphere that we utilize is close to Earth, but it goes really, really far away.
[00:36:21]  All right, guys, Atlantis.
[00:36:23]  They were a more advanced civilization than we were.
[00:36:25]  Have you seen it?
[00:36:28]  The Tower of Babel.
[00:36:29]  Bible.
[00:36:29]  All right, great plot.
[00:36:30]  I want to talk about Atlantis.
[00:36:32]  Have you seen the reconstruction?
[00:36:33]  Yeah, Ian, you're wrong.
[00:36:34]  I don't think so.
[00:36:35]  Yeah, Ian, you're wrong, Ian, you're wrong.
[00:36:36]  Earth's atmosphere is very thinly far out.
[00:36:38]  The exosphere is where satellites are, and that's the last layer of the exosphere.
[00:36:42]  And the moon is technically a satellite.
[00:36:44]  Yeah, it soared me over to the Earth.
[00:36:46]  Well, Tim, hold on.
[00:36:48]  I don't want to misrepresent it, so I just want to get the right information out there.
[00:36:50]  This is something I've learned in the past.
[00:36:51]  Yo, the atmosphere, like, when you look at it, it's like a tiny fuzz layer on the planet.
[00:36:55]  Atlantis!
[00:36:56]  Not real.
[00:36:57]  Oh, it's totally real.
[00:36:58]  It's real.
[00:36:58]  Absolutely real.
[00:36:59]  I know where it is.
[00:37:00]  Yeah, did we find the actual city?
[00:37:02]  Do you want me to show you where Atlantis is?
[00:37:03]  Yeah, let's find it.
[00:37:04]  Is this from that Joe Rogan episode?
[00:37:06]  I think so, yeah, the Ricard structure.
[00:37:08]  Is that what it's called?
[00:37:09]  The Joe Rogan episode, that's right.
[00:37:12]  Well, no, it obviously flooded during the Great Flood.
[00:37:14]  Where is it?
[00:37:15]  Tim doesn't believe in the Great Flood.
[00:37:16]  You know, every religion on Earth talks about the Great Flood.
[00:37:19]  I know.
[00:37:19]  See, I've got from space.com, Earth's atmosphere extends far beyond the moon.
[00:37:22]  From space.com, so... Space.com?
[00:37:24]  Yeah.
[00:37:25]  And from Newsweek.
[00:37:26]  That's authoritative.
[00:37:27]  And from ESA.int.
[00:37:28]  Interesting.
[00:37:29]  From fizz.org.
[00:37:30]  Well, I don't know.
[00:37:30]  Earth's atmosphere stretches out to the moon and beyond.
[00:37:33]  Who told you that?
[00:37:35]  You just told me that.
[00:37:36]  You told me who told you.
[00:37:37]  I'm incredulous.
[00:37:38]  Ian, you're correct.
[00:37:39]  What?
[00:37:40]  I told you the moon's a satellite!
[00:37:41]  See, I was on the inside the whole time!
[00:37:44]  Wait, wait, wait!
[00:37:46]  Earth's atmosphere extends far beyond the moon.
[00:37:48]  How interesting.
[00:37:50]  How are we qualifying that?
[00:37:52]  I don't really know what that boy is.
[00:37:55]  I'm like, wow!
[00:37:56]  Where's that structure at?
[00:37:57]  Ricat.
[00:37:58]  It's R-I-C-H-A-T is the name of it.
[00:38:00]  And you're close to it.
[00:38:02]  It's in Mauritania.
[00:38:03]  Ah, interesting.
[00:38:05]  This is the fabled Ring City of Atlantis, they believe.
[00:38:09]  That's pretty cool.
[00:38:10]  Smeared by mud.
[00:38:11]  What else could it be?
[00:38:12]  What the fuck is that?
[00:38:12]  That proves it.
[00:38:13]  Yeah.
[00:38:14]  You're right.
[00:38:14]  It's definitely correlative evidence, but... Oh, it's super tiny.
[00:38:17]  People think it's... Some people, like Randall Carlson, thinks it's not Atlantis, and he's a pretty renowned geologist.
[00:38:22]  It has 4.8 stars on the globe.
[00:38:23]  Oh, yeah, this is the thing they had on the Joe Rogan show.
[00:38:25]  I have a hard time thinking this was in Atlantis, but... Like, look how they... It looks like they dug out... Why can't it just be a weird rock formation?
[00:38:31]  The Great Flood happened.
[00:38:33]  Thank God.
[00:38:34]  It just didn't happen on Earth.
[00:38:35]  Are you familiar with that?
[00:38:37]  What?
[00:38:37]  We're done, Tim.
[00:38:37]  We're done.
[00:38:38]  Shut it off.
[00:38:38]  Good night.
[00:38:38]  I'm leaving.
[00:38:39]  So here's what happened.
[00:38:41]  So Venus used to have almost the same gravity as Earth.
[00:38:44]  It is said that it used to have the same atmosphere and geology as Earth.
[00:38:49]  And what happened was a runaway greenhouse effect acidified the environment and now it's just like dense sulfuric gases and things like that.
[00:38:57]  But what happened was the first human civilization, realizing that climate change was destroying their planet and the air was acidifying, created the Ark Project, which was a giant space vessel that would bring them to Earth.
[00:39:09]  Wait, where did you get this information from?
[00:39:11]  Just let him finish.
[00:39:12]  I think he made this up.
[00:39:14]  So the Ark Project was a military operation to save as many people as possible, and they needed the DNA of two of every animal, the male and the female genetics, so that they could clone.
[00:39:25]  Now, this happened around the period on Earth known as the Precambrian Explosion, where in the fossil record, all of a sudden, there's a major explosion of different species for some reason.
[00:39:33]  Well, what happened was... Didn't humans come at a much later time than that?
[00:39:36]  Yes.
[00:39:36]  So, because we were terraforming the planet, so the Ark Project was fleeing the great disaster of Venus.
[00:39:42]  Now, it gets complicated, but basically, the Ark Project comes to Earth and, you know, long story short, some people come down to begin the terraforming process.
[00:39:51]  There's a great battle in the heavens from, you know, the second-in-command mutinies against the leader of the Ark Project.
[00:39:57]  Because what happened was, the military dictator who was running the ARC project, he was a commander, he wasn't elected.
[00:40:03]  So after they come to earth, and they've got regular working people, these regular working people don't know a lot about science or anything, they're just tilling the fields, right?
[00:40:12]  But what happens is, there's a political faction within the ARC project that says, it's now time to establish democratic governance.
[00:40:18]  We understand the Ark Project was a military project, so it's hierarchical and authoritarian, but now that we've established a base of operations on the newly terraformed planet, and so the leader of the Ark Project was like, no, and a great battle ensues in the heavens with all the people on the ground watching, and they wrote a book about it because they didn't know what else to do, and then after translation, after translation, everything just sort of goes crazy.
[00:40:39]  I don't need to hear this class from me.
[00:40:41]  Tim, you should publish this.
[00:40:42]  No, Tim, Tim, Tim, no.
[00:40:42]  This is Ark Project funded propaganda.
[00:40:46]  Everyone, everyone knows, who's actually looked at the data, that we did not have the technology to leave Venus.
[00:40:53]  They told us we left Venus for this other planet called Earth.
[00:40:56]  But we're still on Venus.
[00:40:57]  But in reality the whole thing was faked.
[00:40:58]  Still on Venus, oh shit.
[00:41:00]  Have you seen, there's a great, David Firth, he did a few YouTube videos called The News Hasn't Happened Yet.
[00:41:08]  And one of them's really funny because it's got like Paul Joseph Watson and Jimmy Dore in it.
[00:41:11]  But he's like... Imagine my shock!
[00:41:14]  No, no, but his face superimposed on Jimmy Dore, and he's like, the moon is not real, it's just a reflection!
[00:41:20]  And then it shows a guy, and he superimposes, it's a newscaster pointing at the sky, and he's like, we actually live on the moon, and that's Earth watching us!
[00:41:29]  And he puts the Earth over the moon, it's really, really funny.
[00:41:32]  I gotta, I think, I wanna know more about this pre-Cambrian explosion thing you're talking about, because I was pulled up, 541 million years ago, practically all major animal philos started appearing.
[00:41:42]  Yeah, they were terraforming her.
[00:41:43]  Wait, are you telling me Tim's rant is fact-based?
[00:41:46]  I don't think it is, but it could be.
[00:41:46]  that way are you telling me Tim's rant is fact-based yes I tell you it could be
[00:41:50]  Cambrian explosion is I don't think it is but it could be it was it was partly
[00:41:56]  fact-based like was were we seated by alien life or did it just was it
[00:42:00]  inevitably it was a most It was a mostly truthful story.
[00:42:02]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:42:03]  It's me taking, like, 1% truth and turning it into 100% bullshit.
[00:42:07]  Yeah, based on a true story.
[00:42:08]  There is a flood myth that's the Great Flood from the Bible, 12,800 years ago.
[00:42:12]  But this is easily explained.
[00:42:14]  It's easily explained because the people who were living in the Fertile Crescent experienced a major flood and they told that story to everybody and the story spread around through cultures as they traveled the globe.
[00:42:25]  Apparently there was two floods over the course of 800 years later and the asteroids or the comets hit again and then caused another global flood?
[00:42:32]  Yeah, but do you think the flood killed all the Nephilim?
[00:42:35]  Oh my goodness!
[00:42:38]  I think Zeus and Michael the Archangel were descended from them and had the technology from Atlantis, electricity.
[00:42:44]  I think they still had Baghdad batteries.
[00:42:46]  You know, when the angels had sex with Job's daughters... Stop it!
[00:42:50]  I didn't know that happened.
[00:42:51]  The Nephilim, it's like one word in scripture.
[00:42:52]  This is the deuterocanon.
[00:42:53]  Do you know what the Nephilim are?
[00:42:54]  It's literally one word in scripture.
[00:42:55]  sure and it's I think it's like the this is uh the deuterocanon but also you
[00:43:01]  know what the nephilim are the nephilim it's it's literally one word of
[00:43:04]  scripture it's one word in the hybrids no but it doesn't even hold on it's
[00:43:08]  It says the children of God.
[00:43:10]  It says the children of God looked on the children of men with love or something like that, and then their children were the Nephilim.
[00:43:16]  What children of God means in that context, we have no idea.
[00:43:20]  People are like, it's angels.
[00:43:22]  They created angel people.
[00:43:23]  And they're still alive, and they're the people we call lizard people today.
[00:43:27]  The Nephilim did not die in the Great Flood, okay?
[00:43:29]  I see how this works.
[00:43:31]  I think the lizard people are the NPCs, where their amygdala's making them all crazy.
[00:43:35]  And it's just part of our human nature, because we eat meat.
[00:43:37]  Bloodlust.
[00:43:37]  I'm just gonna sit here and eat some bacon while you guys talk about whatever we were.
[00:43:41]  I don't know who they are, but they had tech.
[00:43:43]  Didn't they have tech?
[00:43:44]  They had, like, they could fly, right?
[00:43:45]  Wait, the Nephilim?
[00:43:45]  No.
[00:43:46]  What?
[00:43:46]  I mean, like, what do you base it on?
[00:43:49]  The Nephilim is literally just, like, it is one that is mentioned very briefly.
[00:43:54]  There's really nothing that's said about them.
[00:43:56]  They were fallen angels, they said?
[00:43:57]  Nephilim-funded propaganda.
[00:43:59]  Actually, when Sedna gets close to Earth, Goliath is an enemy.
[00:44:05]  Oh he was.
[00:44:06]  I'm pretty sure.
[00:44:07]  There were like giants and mutants and like part demon was like the idea.
[00:44:12]  What I think happened is that they fled the loss of Atlantis with some tech, they brought
[00:44:15]  it to go back to Leetepe, and then it started spreading around.
[00:44:18]  There's just like, I think.
[00:44:21]  Colts had control of this technology and wouldn't give it to everyone else.
[00:44:24]  So like, when you see Zeus through lightning, he had electricity.
[00:44:27]  When Michael, the Archangels, could fly, they had hang gliders.
[00:44:30]  So this is what I mean.
[00:44:31]  So when they built the Tower of Babel, it was like the highest thing we've ever built, right?
[00:44:35]  And then God knocked them down for going too far, trying to be gods themselves.
[00:44:39]  But I believe that they had, like, extremely advanced technology.
[00:44:42]  We were way past transhumanism, where you had people that were creating themselves into gods with science.
[00:44:47]  And I think we're going back to that.
[00:44:49]  Like the vibration caused the place to shake to the ground like when a Tesla... I would disagree.
[00:44:54]  Tesla's tech could do that too, so they might have been working on some sound.
[00:44:57]  So the Nephilim, I think what's interesting about the Nephilim, what's interesting about a lot of this is they're basically not, they're just barely mentioned, but I think when you talk less about something and when it seems vague, people are just going to come up with a million theories because that becomes very interesting to people.
[00:45:11]  Let me blow your minds.
[00:45:13]  Oh boy, here we go.
[00:45:14]  You guys don't know what force field is, right?
[00:45:17]  If you could make force fields, humans would be able to fly.
[00:45:19]  You know why?
[00:45:21]  Force fields are weightless but can displace matter.
[00:45:24]  That means you could effectively make force field wings that maybe not fly but at least glide because they have no mass but they displace mass.
[00:45:33]  You need to create a magnetic monopole to do that.
[00:45:35]  There would be no parachutes anymore.
[00:45:38]  You'd literally jump out of a plane and your force field, if it can be structured any way you want,
[00:45:43]  would actually displace the air and slow your descent.
[00:45:45]  And then it can be shaped to make you move forward and left.
[00:45:48]  So you may not be able to go up, but actually I would argue if the force field can displace matter,
[00:45:54]  then it would be able to create upward lift.
[00:45:58]  The force field could effectively flap itself if the energy could be controlled.
[00:46:02]  Yeah, it could squeeze itself and create downward pressure from the side to side pressure.
[00:46:06]  I said only if force fields are possible.
[00:46:07]  But you need a magnetic monopole, which they don't exist in nature, but it's like a magnet.
[00:46:11]  Most magnets, you have a north-south, and you break it in half, and then you have a north-south and a north-south.
[00:46:15]  The magnetic monopole is just a north, or just a south, and they don't really naturally occur, but we can kind of... I think they've been able to create them.
[00:46:22]  They're theoretical at best.
[00:46:23]  Once you can, you can propel yourself.

=== Kimchi Thumbnail Thanks (01:03) ===

[00:46:26]  We went way over, and I gotta upload.
[00:46:28]  So I ate bacon, and Lauren's got a sword now.
[00:46:31]  It's been a good episode.
[00:46:34]  Can you just hold that pose for a second?
[00:46:36]  Hold it with the sword.
[00:46:37]  Just like that.
[00:46:38]  And that's our thumbnail.
[00:46:40]  Perfect thumbnail.
[00:46:41]  All right, Laura, thanks for hanging out.
[00:46:42]  What does that mean?
[00:46:43]  That means... Kimchi.
[00:46:44]  What does that mean?
[00:46:46]  Nandesuka?
[00:46:47]  That means...
[00:46:48]  Hirohito kimchi.
[00:46:49]  I just had one of those last night.
[00:46:50]  Kimchi is Korean.
[00:46:51]  I'm about to eat some kimchi tonight, dude.
[00:46:54]  I think nandesuka is like you're asking a polite what.
[00:46:57]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:46:58]  Toshokan, I think that means library.
[00:47:00]  I remember all these random words.
[00:47:04]  I was told tomate means stop.
[00:47:06]  It sounds like tomato.
[00:47:08]  Yeah, so we were driving in Japan.
[00:47:10]  We were driving in Japan and I said, how do I tell the driver to stop?
[00:47:13]  And she says, tomate.
[00:47:14]  Tomate.
[00:47:15]  And so, because we were driving and I was like, stop, stop, stop.
[00:47:17]  And he's just like...
[00:47:19]  I have no idea what you're saying, but he's Japanese.
[00:47:21]  And I was like, tomate!
[00:47:22]  And then he stopped.
[00:47:22]  And I was like, yes!
[00:47:23]  Yes, I'm going to work.
[00:47:24]  All right, we're going to upload this video.
[00:47:25]  Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
[00:47:27]  Thanks for being members.
[00:47:28]  I hope you had fun.
[00:47:28]  This was ridiculous.