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Timcast IRL - CNN's Cuomo CAUGHT Stalking Brothers Victims, Could be FIRED w/Justin Goodman
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unidentified
There's just way too much news.
tim pool
Way too much news.
Welcome back, everybody.
I hope you had an amazing holiday.
We are off for Thanksgiving and Black Friday.
And I wake up on this Monday just looking at all of the stories, and it's overwhelming.
We were struggling to figure out, like, what do we lead with?
We got Jussie Smollett?
He's going to trial the Osundaro brothers who claim who are allegedly were hired by him to stage this hoax are going to be testifying against him.
At least that's what I've been hearing.
We've got Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter, stepping down.
We've got Joe Biden saying we don't need to do any lockdowns for now, so long as you get vaccinated.
And now reports are coming out saying, oops, It's actually a three-dose vaccine, not a booster.
So what does that mean?
Well, the definitions are going to change.
We got Anthony Fauci coming out once again for, I think, I don't know how many times that I am the science, then getting slammed by politicians.
And we decided to start off with Chris Cuomo because this is a big media story.
Cuomo, Chris Cuomo on CNN, was covering for his brother amid assault allegations.
We'll keep it a little family-friendly.
And he was apparently stalking the victims and trying to dig up dirt on them and even crafted the PR statement for his brother.
We'll get into all that reporting.
He may get fired.
I really doubt it.
Brian Williams can literally make up stories and they're like, eh, just moving to MSNBC where no one cares about what's true or not.
unidentified
Jeffrey Toobin.
tim pool
I mean, the remarkable thing is there was there a video of Toobin?
unidentified
I think so.
Wow.
tim pool
So we got to get into all of that stuff.
But we are hanging out with White Coat Waste Project.
I got that right, right?
unidentified
Yeah, you did.
tim pool
Justin, you want to introduce yourself?
unidentified
Sure.
I'm Justin Goodwin.
I'm the Vice President of Advocacy and Public Policy at White Coat Waste Project.
I spend my days protecting dogs and puppies and kittens and monkeys from government abuse.
tim pool
Like Dr. Fauci.
unidentified
Protecting them from evil guys like that.
tim pool
Yeah, so we actually have a story on TimCast.com, of which you guys were the source for it, that Fauci is conducting maximum pain experiments on primates on Monkey Island.
I don't like doing this.
I had to go into the article and actually take the pictures off because they're so gruesome.
We can't show them on YouTube.
And this is the, you know, NIAID under Fauci funding pain research.
You have to wonder about some of the cruel and psychotic things they do in the name of research on animals.
Some of which is just nonsensical, like, do fish feel pain?
Or, let's torture monkeys as much as possible and see what happens.
I'm sorry, man.
I kind of, I'm interested in what you have to say about waste project, because this sounds like cruel, unusual, and a waste of our money.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
It costs taxpayers $20 billion a year.
tim pool
Billion with a B. I mean, we can just look at all these lefties and be like, hey, how about we all agree and we like, I don't know, fund roads or something.
Or put it towards some kind of health care project.
I think it's better than torturing animals and stuff like that.
luke rudkowski
Or just don't steal the money in the first place and let people keep their income.
I think that's a great idea.
Lots of news to get into today, including the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, which just began, with, of course, James Comey's daughter, who's one of the lead prosecutors, and the same person who admittedly lost the Epstein prison tapes.
Looks like she got a promotion.
We're going to be talking about that probably in the after section, but I think today's shirt that I'm wearing definitely is appropriate for our conversation.
It says Fauci lied, people died, and I think I might have to add another audible to the shirt saying people, monkeys, dogs, and a whole bunch of other people and creatures that we don't even know about.
With 5G's life.
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And because you do that, I'm here.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Happy to be back.
Ian Crossland over here.
Happy holidays, everyone.
And look forward to the show.
Let's get going.
lydia smith
Good.
Yeah, I am also here pushing buttons in the corner, as is my want.
unidentified
I'm very excited to have a White Coast waist project.
tim pool
White Coast?
unidentified
It's a tongue twister.
lydia smith
White Coast.
But yeah, no, don't confuse me further.
tim pool
That's why I was like slow.
I was like, white coat?
unidentified
I just use white coat.
luke rudkowski
White coat.
lydia smith
Perfect.
unidentified
I like that.
lydia smith
Yeah.
And yeah, I'm here.
Yes, I'm pushing this.
unidentified
I'm sorry I'm distracted.
tim pool
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Let's get into that big story.
Oh man.
Daily Mail reports CNN says Chris Cuomo's fate will be decided in the next several days after text messages revealed he wrote Andrew's pest rebuttals, assault pest rebuttals, and used sources to dig dirt on accuser.
Victim says system protects powerful men from accountability.
Newly released texts show how CNN host Chris Cuomo helped strategize his brother's response to harassment allegations.
CNN told DailyMail.com that the transcripts of Cuomo's interview with investigators in the texts will be reviewed.
We will be having a conversation and seeking additional clarity about their significance as they relate to CNN over the next several days.
So maybe he won't be fired, but we'll see.
A March 1st message he sent to the governor's chief aide, Melissa DeRosa, included a suggested written response Andrew Cuomo should have used.
The messages were released by the New York Attorney General's office Monday.
In one, Chris said his friend asked actor Alec Baldwin To post a 14-minute video rant on Instagram in defense of his disgraced governor brother.
Grissetti asked his friend to tell Baldwin to stay out of the scandal.
The text also revealed the television personality was investigating one woman who accused the ex-politician of trying to kiss her at a wedding.
All right, Cuomo, he's not a journalist.
He is a content creator for CNN.
And I'm gonna make sure I give proper credit where credit is due.
This is Danny and Ryan Long.
Danny, Polish Chuck, I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong, Danny.
But they had this funny bit on their podcast about how, you know, it would just really irk the media by calling all their journalists content creators.
And Ryan Long is like, the right would roll with it and be like, I guess, whatever.
And the left would just Freak out!
unidentified
No, we're journalists!
tim pool
No, no, no, hold on.
Chris Cuomo's not doing journalism here.
He's directly intervening in a political scandal, using a media network to protect his corrupt brother who assaulted women, who had killed the elderly, and all of this, CNN helped cover up.
Not a journalist.
But he does make content, so I think it's fair to call Cuomo a content creator.
luke rudkowski
and he was lying about it from the very beginning of this scandal CNN said that they were investigating ties between
the brother the governor and of course the anchor and they're looking into it and they're going to have a thorough
investigation and now we have the New York State.
Attorney General release all these text messages that implicate him I mean I'm I'm really surprised that CNN is
not going to give him a medal in excellency of of of lying and deception I mean CNN for Frick's sakes look at their
lineup they got Lubin to bin.
They got they got the they had the brain eating guy they got a Vanderbilt they got the guy who talks about black
holes swallowing airplanes and now they have creepy como.
I mean, CNN is not a news organization.
They are a smear merchant operation that does the bidding and the PR of the super powerful that wants to impose
their will or their willy onto the unsuspecting, innocent public and I am sick of these people
having carte blanche promotion by all these big tech social media companies.
Sorry, I had that lined up.
I am so mad at CNN.
tim pool
The brain eating guy.
luke rudkowski
That's their lineup.
I mean, you got serious.
He's not on CNN anymore.
He's not, but that's the most trusted name in news.
They had people eating brains on national television promoting that.
YouTube's like, that's great.
That's awesome.
That's family-friendly content that we got to push in the algorithm.
Meanwhile, independent media like my channel, your channel, we are changed.
We get screwed over.
And of course, we get downranked.
And you know, there's so many instances.
I'm a little biased here.
Obviously, CNN put a false strike on one of my videos and prevented me from doing live streams when I had a live show because I played a portion of the president's speech, which was during the State of the Union.
So they rigged the algorithm in many different ways.
Regardless, Chris Cuomo should be obviously fired here, but with the low reputation that CNN has, will he?
That's the larger question that I think a lot of people are asking themselves.
tim pool
How long did it take you to write all that?
luke rudkowski
During the show, you're doing the introduction.
You're doing the introduction.
I'm like, I could go on a roll here.
unidentified
You've been the brain-eating guy.
tim pool
They got creepy Cuomo.
luke rudkowski
Black hole swallowing airplane.
tim pool
Oh man, wow.
CNN's reputation could not be worse.
You know, I had an idea.
I woke up the other morning.
No, I think it was this morning maybe.
I usually wake up and then I just like, I don't know man, I'm coming off a groggy weird dream and I'm like vaguely remembering what's going on.
I immediately pick up my phone right when I wake up and I hit up Twitter.
And then the first thing I saw was a tweet from Brian Stelter about the Omicron variant.
And then I was just like, And I was like, oh, wait a minute, this is a good idea.
I was like, we should just name the variants after CNN's lineup.
And so I was like, I'm not going to call it Omicron, I'm going to call it the Lemon Variant.
Because lemon's actually like a regular word, too.
And so we'll just name all the variants after CNN hosts.
And I call them content creators, too, because I agree, like, they're not journalists.
They just make content.
And truth be told, this is really important.
Seriously, we talk about CNN's ratings being complete trash and in the gutter, and that's true, but they do get a ton of YouTube video views because YouTube promotes them.
So CNN's lineup, they get, I think they get like 100 to 200k in the key demo, and like all together it's only like 400, so they're well below the ratings of this show.
And I'm not saying that to like brag or something, I'm just pointing out like they're irrelevant.
But they get the YouTube views more than we do, and we're on YouTube.
So they're just content creators.
That's all they are.
luke rudkowski
But a lot of that is forced.
A lot of that is the algorithm literally pushing them, no matter who's online.
Usually the algorithm is curated for a particular audience, but you look up any kind of news-related event, CNN is top up up there.
So they have a huge advantage over, of course, independent media when they're causing real-life harm.
CNN and other corporate media make the argument that ... independent media is causing harm to the general public by ... lying and spreading misinformation well number one ... look at exactly what CNN did whether it's Hurricane Katrina ... the 2008 bailouts whether it's the weapons of mass ... destruction time and time again they kept lying through ... their teeth that led to real life consequences even on a ... smaller micro level when we look at.
Chris Cuomo literally going after, looking up dirt, using CNN's resources to go after the accusers of his brother, who's governor of New York, who's been accused of doing really inappropriate stuff to other female members of his staff.
Family-friendly show, we can't get really into the details here.
A lot of it is also vague, but that should be the least thing that Cuomo should be in trouble for.
tim pool
We can, we can.
A lot of the allegations are like, when he grabbed that woman by the neck, And like pulled her in and she's like clearly freaked out.
Then Cuomo himself put out a montage of him inappropriately touching people to justify it.
It was funny because he was like, I'm an Italian.
You know, I touch everybody.
Here's a video of me doing it.
And you're just like, oh, he's making it worse.
It's like all these videos of him like grabbing faces of random people.
And I'm like, it doesn't make you innocent.
It just makes you a bisexual assailant.
luke rudkowski
But it wasn't just faces.
It wasn't just people feeling uncomfortable.
It was also people being touched in other private areas.
It was also forcefully kissing them and making them feel really uncomfortable by making a lot of innuendos and kind of demands.
And of course, you know, that thing is still nothing compared to what he did to the state of New York during, of course, the beginning of COVID with his policy when it came to elderly homes and the larger impact that he had on the large number of people that died as a consequence because of his direct policies that kill people.
So that to me should be the bigger controversy.
It shouldn't be, of course, a lot of the PR stuff.
It shouldn't be a lot of the lighter stuff because there is some lighter stuff mixed in with some of the heavier stuff.
But this shows a kind of characterization of someone who's above the law, Who thinks that they could do whatever they want, who routinely abuses people around them, and they think they could get away with it because they're in a high position of power.
That's the kind of greaseball thinking that should be called out because it leads to, of course, on a lower level, people feeling uncomfortable.
On a bigger level, grandma being pushed in with the latest COVID cases inside of her nursing home because he thinks he could get away with it.
And he has.
tim pool
Andrew Cuomo killed like 15,000 people.
luke rudkowski
Easily.
That's the numbers we know.
He hid the numbers.
He lied about the numbers.
So those numbers are probably a lot bigger.
And the fact that he made that policy, the fact that he hid that policy is also another big aspect here because he was caught lying, manipulating the data, manipulating the information.
The new governor of New York came out and said, hey, there's actually a lot more people here that were caught up in this.
There's actually a lot more people here that were affected by this that we didn't even know about.
And I mean, when you get to this kind of level of sociopathic thinking, this kind of level of making these decisions that impact people so negatively, this is absolutely nothing.
But it still should be called out for.
They still should be held accountable for all the egregious actions that they're doing.
tim pool
It's because they hated Trump so much.
It was that Trump sent in the Mercy naval vessel, and the Javits Center had been opened for emergency usage.
And the Mercy, I don't believe, was ever used to make, like, one or two beds or something.
The Javits was at 30%, but Cuomo was like, eh, let's not give Trump a win.
And so he put recovering COVID patients who were still infectious into nursing homes.
And in Pennsylvania, where this was happening, too, under Governor Tom Wolf, it was the now admiral... Yeah, honorary admiral of...
Whatever, Biden's appointee for health services, Rachel Levine, right?
Took their parents out of a nursing home just before the sick people were put in.
That shows foreknowledge that they were going to be killing the elderly.
luke rudkowski
They had hospitals that were wide open in the middle of Central Park that were just put there.
They were field hospitals and there was no one in them.
So why would you do this kind of policy?
It absolutely makes no sense at all.
And the fact that he didn't go down for that, the fact that he went down for something else later down the line shows you that there's bigger things at hand here.
There's more political manipulation here.
There's a bigger power structure that probably did ensue between the Como's and another power structure.
There was probably a bigger ask by the power structure that Como probably didn't want to go along with.
But also with this latest revelation, this is another aspect to talk about here because this was the New York Attorney General that released these text messages.
And for people to think that this is not political, that this is not done in a bigger power grab, is also, I would say, a little bit naive.
Since, of course, most New York politics is extremely political, extremely related to criminal organizations, criminal gangs as well.
So I do believe that there's a bigger power struggle here, and they're going after the Comos, bringing them down, because of something else that we might not even know about, personally, from my own opinion.
tim pool
Let's wrap this back to the media aspect of it all, because when, you know, CNN lies and the mainstream press lie over and over again, one of the outlets that we have is social media.
However, as most everybody knows, one of the biggest stories of our generation, the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, was censored by Twitter and Facebook.
They literally blocked sharing of this link, even in private messages.
Likely just to help Joe Biden win the election.
Polling from Esmussen and a couple other outlets came out showing that people, I think by like seven percentage points, would have not voted for Joe Biden had they known about the laptop scandal and the things that Joe Biden had been doing.
Well, with that being said, we have this story here.
Most of you may have heard this.
It's one of the biggest stories in a long time.
Jack Dorsey is resigning as Twitter CEO.
You know, Jack Dorsey is a hypocrite.
He's either... Well, he is a hypocrite.
He's a liar, I believe.
Or he's just completely inept.
So, when I was talking to Jack, and I've talked to him several times since I met him on the Joe Rogan podcast, He was talking about a path to redemption for those that get banned.
You can't make, you know, it a life sentence because you said a naughty word or whatever.
He talked about solving the problem and bringing about decentralization and what did he do after all these years?
Literally nothing but quit and appoint someone who is as woke or woker than he is.
This new guy, the Chief Technology Officer Parag Agrawal, he's got this interview where, I mean it's gone viral, he basically says, let me see if I can pull it up.
They ask him about it and let me make sure I can pull up the part where he talks about the First Amendment.
He's asked about free speech on Twitter, so we can expect things to get a whole lot worse.
He says, you're caught in a bit of a hard place, this is the interviewer, Litchfield, as somebody in the audience is also pointing out, that you're trying to combat misinformation.
You also want to protect free speech as a core value, and also in the U.S.
as the First Amendment.
How do we balance those two?
He said, our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation, and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.
The kinds of things that we do about this is focused less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.
One of the changes today that we see is speech is easy on the internet.
Most people can speak.
Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard.
The scarce commodity today is attention.
There's lots of content out there, a lot of tweets out there.
Not all of it gets attention.
Some subset of it gets attention, and so increasingly our role is moving towards how we recommend content, and that sort of is a struggle.
That we're working through in terms of how we make sure these recommendation systems that we're building, how we direct people's attention in leading to a healthy public conversation that is most participatory.
Code word for we know what's better for you than you do.
And we're going to make sure that conversations we deem to be the healthy ones are had and promoted and your ideas aren't.
And let's be real.
They directly remove news stories that are bad for their psychotic goals and agendas.
And I want to give a shout out real quick to Project Veritas.
Who has those undercover videos of Bernie Sanders supporters and Democrat staffers talking about being violent and manipulating people and talking about gulags.
Because if you ever talk to these Antifa people in private, they will straight up tell you they intend to kill millions of people.
And I'm not exaggerating.
I'm not trying to push hyperbole.
I mean, literally go to these meetings.
And they will calmly, these anti-fafar leftists, calmly and rationally say things like, you know, if we want communism, we have to reconcile with the fact that there's going to be, you know, tens of millions of people who will actively resist, many of whom will violently resist, to uphold capitalism, white supremacy, insert buzzword.
And they'll say, well, those people have to be sent to the gulags to break rocks to understand what hard work really means, many of whom will die.
When you see stories like this and you've got psychotic, egomaniacal lunatics like this guy Agrawal and Jack Dorsey saying, we know what's healthy, not you, you don't get to speak.
What do you think the future will look like under that kind of person?
We were already in that spot with CEO Jack Dorsey, but I gotta be honest, Jack Dorsey didn't do a whole lot, and he still was willing to go on shows and talk to people.
This guy, I think, is going to be much more locked down, much more robotic, PR-oriented, just garbage statements put out, lies, manipulation, and...
As much as I think Twitter is trash, it does still have that opportunity to spread news outside the mainstream, whereas CNN is a pollutant.
I know with you guys at White Coat, getting these stories out probably is difficult because I don't think CNN would go near anything that smears Fauci.
unidentified
No, it's been hard to get mainstream media coverage for anything criticizing Fauci, particularly in this administration.
We'd taken him on before under Trump.
A lot of these news outlets were happy to cover us beating up the administration, and now they're not anymore.
Twitter is actively banning ads right now from us.
Criticizing Fauci.
We're trying to run our Dogs Against Fauci ads about him funding deadly maximum pain experiments on dogs.
tim pool
Dogs too?
unidentified
Yeah.
Twitter banned those ads.
They won't give us a blue check either.
So we were hoping things would get better when Jack left, but it doesn't sound like it.
tim pool
I don't think Jack was really the CEO at this point anyway.
I think they panicked.
Who was the CEO before him?
Was it Dick Costolo?
lydia smith
I don't remember.
tim pool
I don't remember.
But I think they had a crisis.
They were like, bring Jack Dorsey back on because he was a co-founder and it'll look really good to our investors or whatever.
And then Jack just basically made a bunch of boring, nonsensical, ideological public statements and never actually implemented anything.
luke rudkowski
I mean, this is going to be a very interesting transition of power, I believe, because I think there's going to be some kind of difference that we're going to be feeling with this kind of transition.
This new guy coming in, he also has ties to, of course, Snopes and PolitiFact.
It's going to be interesting to see how he implements this.
A lot of people are bringing up his old tweet from 2010, where he talked about, if you're going to talk about Muslims being all extremists, then you shouldn't distinguish between white people and racists.
Of course, there's a lot of different context behind that.
It was a long time ago.
tim pool
That was a quote from The Daily Show.
It was from Asif Manvi.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, but honestly, you know, I never thought I would say this, and I'm actually going to defend Jack Dorsey here a little bit.
If you compare now what Twitter is to Facebook and Instagram, it is way better, especially when it comes to censorship of speech.
Now, that doesn't say much.
That's like comparing, like, you know, the devil to, you know, a different, smaller devil.
But, you know, like Lucifer.
I was gonna say, it's still the devil.
unidentified
It's still evil.
luke rudkowski
But I've personally noticed having a lot more fun and a lot more freedom on Twitter than I would on Instagram and Facebook because I've been getting fact-checked a lot more on Facebook and Instagram than I have on Twitter.
And there's a lot of stuff I get away with on Twitter that I would naturally not get away with.
Now, of course, I could be mixed in the crowd.
I could not be targeted.
A lot of people have been targeted.
A lot of people have had their speech.
Uh, aggressively limited, which is absolutely horrible.
Tim, you got something to say?
tim pool
Well, it's not that Twitter's better, it's that they're all different.
Facebook is the worst by far, because they ban everything, they put fake fact checks on things, they empower political actors to lie about statements, you know, I've made or you make.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
YouTube is actually decent in some areas, but really, really bad in terms of general censorship.
Twitter is good in some areas, but really, really bad in terms of censorship, sure.
You know, Twitter allows you to talk about a lot of things, like Fauci and the vaccines, if you're just tweeting, but what you don't know is when they shadow ban you.
And then you've got to do a check, or they won't verify certain people.
They won't verify, you know, actually, I think they banned James O'Keefe completely.
unidentified
Yeah, I wish so, yeah.
tim pool
They wouldn't verify him.
There's a lot of people they won't verify, and that verification is a sign of credibility, and they know it, and trust.
Now, YouTube allows you to say some things, but YouTube is worse than Twitter.
So I think it's fair to point out they're all bad, but if, like, I was gonna give a censorship score where a positive score means you're pro-free speech and a negative score means you oppose free speech, then, you know, Facebook is, like, a negative 93, and YouTube is a negative 65, and then Twitter is a negative, you know, 47.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, all opposed to free speech like a 43 or 50 maybe but I'm along the same lines But it's still one of the still one of the places where you could share a lot of controversial ideas without having the banhammer Instagram I know oh, I'm gonna post this I'm gonna get banned.
I'm gonna get hit right away.
I just know so so there's also something interesting happening with Jack Dorsey tweeting a lot of very Curious stuff.
He tweeted out Murray's Rothbard's book, Anatomy of the State, recently as well.
He's really into Bitcoin, so I don't know, maybe he got surprised dosed and had some kind of revelation.
There's also rumors of him having a shakeup, an argument with Elliott Management.
That's the hedge fund that's pretty much Has a substantial stake in Twitter so I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bigger moves here made Jack Dorsey also just previously said a couple months ago if he wasn't working at Twitter he would be working in Bitcoin so just the fact that he has promoted Bitcoin as much as he can that he even tweeted out Murray's Rothbard book is pretty huge so there might be some kind of
Waking up or some kind of internal conflict that we don't even know about that has caused this larger shake-up, which I do believe there's going to be some ramifications of.
tim pool
Maybe, you know, I don't want to take just the direct pessimistic view of this guy as a do-nothing hypocrite.
Maybe the reality is there is a lot of stuff that Jack Dorsey talked about doing with Bitcoin, with crypto, with decentralization, and maybe he just couldn't do it.
Maybe they wouldn't let him do it.
Maybe they said it's bad for our bottom line, so no, and he eventually said, okay, I'm gonna leave and go do it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
So maybe he'll work in blockchain technology.
He told me this years ago.
He said that, you know, we need decentralized blockchain social media that's immutable.
And I said, that's a really bad idea because that means someone could post my address and it could never be deleted.
And I would not be happy with, you know, that private information or, you know, personal images or something like that.
There needs to be a way to remove that stuff.
And he was like, OK, well, I see your point.
But decentralized social media is way better.
I said that we agree on.
But in all these years, he's never gotten any of that done.
So maybe he's just completely ineffective and it was a waste of time for him to even bother at Twitter.
Maybe we shouldn't give the man the benefit of the doubt because he's never proven anything he's done was in the right direction in terms of helping people on the social media platform.
ian crossland
I thought Square was pretty cool.
I don't know too much about it, that other company that he started in 2009.
He basically left Twitter in 2010, resigned as CEO, started Square, which is like a financial app, and then they brought him back for the face game to look nice.
luke rudkowski
I would love to interview him.
If we could get him to sit down and talk about... I mean, he probably won't be able to even talk about the inner drama that happened with a lot of the bigger players behind Twitter, because Twitter has a lot of big players.
Twitter also has a lot of Saudi Arabian investment.
So there's a lot of things happening behind the doors that we don't even know about, that I wish I could be a fly on the wall when they're discussing a lot of these issues.
We'll see what he does after this.
I mean, I think he's going to be going into the Bitcoin realm.
I think it's very easy to say that.
He said that before.
So it's going to be interesting to see where he goes from here.
And I mean, I would just love to talk to him, to be honest with you.
tim pool
I'm gonna DM him right now.
luke rudkowski
That'd be awesome.
Be like, hey, do you want to come and have a conversation about What's going on here?
We want to give you a fair play to address yourself and talk about your larger projects.
I think I would love to question him on a lot of different stuff, but we'll see what he's able to say and what he's not able to say.
lydia smith
I think all this stuff from this new CTO, former CTO, I think it really smacks of this rank elitism.
Because talking about how we know what's best for you, Just it looks exactly like currently the science community talking about, we know what's best for you.
And even when people are actively being hurt by some of these things that they're pushing through, they're like, we still know what's best for you.
You have no say in your life.
You don't know what's right.
And Thomas Sowell talks about this too.
He talks about how we're entrusting a lot of society to people who pay no price for being wrong.
Somebody pointed out on Twitter earlier today, they were like, um, it's really interesting that we locked down, that millions of people are like out of work, that people are committing suicide, left, right, and center.
And the only people who are paying no price for this are the people who put it into place.
Like, that doesn't seem right.
But this is just, just disgusting elitism.
Especially for the First Amendment.
tim pool
Someone commented on my Facebook, because I said something, I don't know what it was about, it was probably about like lockdowns or Australia.
like I wonder what Occupy Tim would be saying about Tim today. He'd probably be saying things
like, oh, you got really into guns. Everything else seems to be all right. Like freedom,
liberty, free speech. Like when I was at Occupy defending people's right to free speech, I'm like,
it's for the same reason. I don't agree with their politics, but like, by all means, do your
protests complain about the elites. But I bring that up because of what you were saying about the
elites. Here we are as a show that gets smeared, or we get insulted, we get smeared, they claim
we're right wing or whatever, which whatever that means.
And we're literally like, the 1%, rah, you know, the elites are ripping us off. Steve Bannon
comes on the show, and he's like, you got to tax the rich man. And I was like, Steve, that's
a far left position, you know, like, it's not the conservative or the right wing that wants to
do that. And he's like, well, you know, the billionaires are ripping you off. And I'm like, all
unidentified
right.
All right.
tim pool
Like, I'm down.
And I think that's the thing about the media.
That's why social media decentralization is so important.
CNN is going to lie to you.
MSNBC is going to lie.
MSNBC, boy, do they lie.
I mean, come on.
Brian Williams.
It was Brian Williams, right?
He made up that fake story.
lydia smith
About being shot at or something?
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they were like, Move them to MSNBC because those people don't care if they're lied to.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's crazy.
So we need to have a space where we can actually challenge the system.
The funny thing about this is, you know, like I mentioned, here we are challenging and questioning the elites and the establishment.
Steve Bannon did the same thing.
And there were people watching the show being like, whoa.
I didn't know that was Bannon's position because the media had lied so much about him saying he was like a white
supremacist and a racist and all that stuff.
When in reality, he's just a general populist. He's not even...
He calls himself far-right, but I'm like, you're just a populist.
Like, there's left and right-wing positions in what you're saying. It's not even...
I'm like, I think one of the things is...
If... with the left...
Maybe we should do this.
We should invite a leftist populist to come on the show with Steve Bannon so we can hear them say, I agree the entire show and just break the narrative.
Seriously, Kyle Kalinske, you want to come on the show with Steve Bannon?
That'd be cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then have them talk about all the things they agree on.
That sounds interesting.
like oh wow we agree on so much stuff.
lydia smith
That sounds interesting.
tim pool
Wow, the media was lying about this.
I wonder if, I mean, you know, the thing about left populists is they have their own shows
to do for the most part so it's always hard to be like stop doing your show, come do my
show.
But I'm sure there are some left populists who would be interested in coming on and having
a conversation.
luke rudkowski
I'd have to find them, yeah.
Yeah, I mean if it wasn't for big tech social media, if it wasn't for the corporate media,
we would figure out that we have a lot more in common than we do that's dividing us.
I think there is a larger divide and conquer agenda.
I think there's even things made up to divide us, whether it's sex and gender or beliefs or ideologies.
I think a lot of it is interjected in a way where it's divisive and it's divisive on purpose.
So, of course, we keep fighting each other instead of realizing the larger, bigger players out there who are screwing everyone else over Literally committing one of the largest transfers of wealth in recorded human history, which is ongoing right now because of this pandemic, which, of course, is creating a new billionaire class that is becoming richer than ever, and everyone else is getting screwed over.
What was that guy's name who was a part of the Trump administration?
Peter Navarro.
Yeah, he was on here.
He called me a Bernie supporter.
lydia smith
I felt so offended.
luke rudkowski
But he probably came from that perspective after he heard a lot of my critiques of the kind of ruling establishment, because a lot of people correlate the two, but it's further from the truth.
But if I would say on a political spectrum, I probably have a lot of issues that a lot of Bernie supporters would probably agree with me on if they were able to hear me out, if they were able to talk to me, if they were able to have a real honest conversation And I think that's what a lot of people are afraid of.
They're afraid of people sitting down, having that real conversation, being
able to discuss their differences in a way that's peaceful and respectful.
Because when you do that, you break down all the things that are, of course, are
screwing people over and conning them into this left, right divide and conquer game.
tim pool
I think if we ask Steve Bannon, if we got him with Kyle Kulinski, he'd probably
just be like, yes, right off the bat.
lydia smith
Yeah, he'd probably think it was fun.
tim pool
But I think Kyle would probably be like, let me think about it.
lydia smith
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
So I'll just, I don't know.
And I think it's maybe because Bannon, I think, is wealthy enough to be like, sure, we'll do it.
And Kyle's got to do a full-time job.
He's got to do a show.
But I also, I don't think Kyle is the kind of person who would play, you know, stupid games like a lot of, a lot of, you know, grifter types on the left or the right would do.
The right always wants to come on for a debate no matter who they are, but a lot of people on the left are worried about cancel culture and stuff.
I just want to say this real quick before we go to the next story.
Kyle Kalinske.
Big fan.
Come on the show with Steve Bannon.
We'll set it up, and I think it'll be an awesome conversation, and we'll talk through all these issues about where we agree, where we disagree.
I think it'll be fascinating.
Right, everybody agree?
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
lydia smith
Yeah, it sounds fun.
tim pool
It'll be fantastic.
lydia smith
Absolutely.
tim pool
Yeah, Kyle's rad.
He had a tweet where he was like, I just want a Democrat that's not ultra-woke and isn't gonna bow down to the media, and I'm like, Yes, yes.
lydia smith
Yes, of course.
tim pool
And then someone said, isn't that just Democrat Trump?
And I'm like, look.
Maybe.
If we had a Democrat who wasn't just falling in line with Pelosi and the rest of the party, who actually was like, hey, I'm kind of more to the left than the Republicans, but we agree on what the truth is.
We think the media is full of it.
The ultra woke stuff is crap.
I'd be like, all right, we're getting somewhere.
I think Tulsi Gabbard was very much like that.
And they called her right wing.
So now all of a sudden people are tweeting that Kyle Kalinske was turning into Jimmy Dore.
And they keep attacking people who realize that we have a lot more in common, who try to bridge the gaps.
was on the left and now he's on the right.
And Jimmy Dore was on the left and now he's on the right.
And Kyle Kulinski is going that direction.
Maybe you need to start looking at your boot for what the crap really is,
because it's not other people if you're not smelling it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and they keep attacking people who realize that we have a lot more in common,
who try to bridge the gaps.
A lot of leftists who don't always believe in the cult.
Don't always drink the Kool-Aid.
They're the ones that get attacked the most viciously by their own side.
So seeing that happen is also very frustrating because you see a lot of people play up to the mob and try to be popular and try to play up to their audience members or their comment section.
And you should never do that because a lot of it is gamed.
A lot of it is manipulated.
A lot of it is played to emotionally and mentally control you in so many different ways.
tim pool
Let's talk about the censorship though because this is a really hilarious story.
From TimCats.com, YouTube censors popular music video mocking Fauci as a sad little man.
I wonder if YouTube's gonna get mad about this one for us covering it, but it's from Five Times August.
YouTube censored a music video from popular singer-songwriter Five Times August over its criticism of Dr. Anthony Fauci.
No joke, that's all the video is.
Sad little man, there's fingers pointing at him, he sings a song, and they actually take it down.
Now, the video has been reinstated after public outcry, but is not eligible for monetization because YouTube claims it violates their policy on dangerous and harmful acts.
I have a music video.
That I put out called Will of the People.
In it, it shows revolutionaries throwing Molotov cocktails.
And it's animated.
Much like this is animated.
And there's police fighting with rioters and revolutionaries.
And there's literally a scene in it where the main character pulls his gun and points it at the camera and pulls the trigger and then the screen splatters red.
And that is monetized.
Acceptable.
Because why?
I'm not criticizing Dr. Fauci.
Criticizing Dr. Fauci in a music video, and they actually demonetize you?
That to me is fascinating.
They say the animated music video for the song Sad Little Man does not mention COVID in the lyrics, but takes aim at the authoritarianism and hero worship surrounding the NIAID director.
He is portrayed throughout the video as a clown, and at one point burns in heck.
Maybe that's the issue they take with it, but they reinstated it because showing a person going to hell, I guess, is a figurative thing, not a literal thing.
But either way, this is the censorship.
And it's so blatant to anybody who pays attention.
If you're watching CNN, and you've got creepy Cuomo and the brain-eating guy, you have no idea what's going on.
If you're on YouTube and you're seeing videos pop up, they are desperately trying to stop that.
The dislike button.
They got rid of it, right?
The display.
You can click the button, but now you can't see how many dislikes a video has.
You want to know why that's really dumb?
Dislikes are a functional tool to help people understand a video.
So, there's a meme, it was hilarious.
It was like, YouTube gets rid of dislike counter, and then it said, people who make fan trailers that are manipulated and fake, but claim it's real, and it's a bunch of people cheering and celebrating.
Yeah, because you'll search for like, this happened to me, I was searching for the Spider-Man No Way Home trailer.
And I see all these videos popping up with millions of views, says No Way Home Official, No Way Home Official, and you can't see the dislike button anymore on YouTube.
So you click it, and before you'd see a huge dislike, and you'd be like, okay, it's fake.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Everyone's saying, no, no, no, it's fake, and that's how you knew.
Now it's just like, okay, it seems real, it seems real, and then halfway in there's Matt Murdock, and I'm like, and it's not real, and I just wasted a minute, this is not the trailer for the movie.
So this is it.
They want to get rid of the dislike button because people were going after Joe Biden and the Democrats in the White House disliking it.
And that shows people you're not alone.
They want to go after videos like this.
Now, you can't tell the difference between Sad Little Man, which is mocking Fauci with massive upvotes, and then a statement from Fauci with massive downvotes, because you can't see which one people hate.
They don't want you to be able to understand where the general population is.
lydia smith
So this is something I talked about at the event, because I was like, you know, I feel like having this many people in one room at one time is really encouraging for people, because it does show that you're not alone.
And the mainstream media 100% wants you to believe that you are off the reservation, that you're losing your mind, and that you are like, they just want to be able to gaslight you, basically.
So I think this is an example of that, because if you are the only person who... So people started to say, you know, we're just going to comment dislike, and then people can upvote that comment, and then people will be able to...
People are very creative and I don't see this being the end of the world as far as YouTube goes, but it is a huge problem because tons of people use tons of tutorials and they want to know the actual truth and what people are really focused on.
Fauci worship.
Yes.
tim pool
That's the important thing here.
It's that you criticize Fauci and the cult goes nuts.
The first thing they do is they took the video down.
unidentified
How dare you question Fauci?
lydia smith
He's science.
tim pool
There's a video going around of Jim Brewer.
And it's actually pretty funny.
I'm not gonna pretend like it's the funniest thing in the world, but Jim Brewer is a funny, like, you know, character, kind of a comedian.
And he was making fun of people as parrots, who just walk around parroting what they hear and like, Dr. Fauci!
unidentified
Get your shot!
Get your shot!
Two shots!
Two shots!
tim pool
And I was chuckling, but they were, like, on Reddit, they were so angry.
unidentified
They were like, this isn't comedy!
This is so dumb!
tim pool
And I'm like, man, they really hate it when you say Fauci is stupid.
Like, they really lose it.
luke rudkowski
Or, you know, does horrible experiments on little monkeys and little helpless puppies.
But we're going to get into that in just a little bit.
But getting rid of the dislike button, I mean, who does that really help?
I mean, it helps a lot of scammers.
It helps a lot of con artists.
Even if you're going to how-to videos, right?
How do you know if something really is going to teach you how to do something rather than, of course, scam you, waste your time, or do a thing improperly?
Well, you can't anymore.
So I remember seeing that and saying, this only helps out scammers.
And I'm like, yes, exactly.
It helps out the White House and Dr. Fauci, the biggest scammers of all, who, of course, are lying to the American people so much.
I've seen people, you know, with the dislike button gone, type in comments, dislike, and that get a lot of votes.
And people just commenting dislike, dislike, dislike.
But still, it sucks that this voice has been taken away because Netflix made a similar move a couple years ago, and I
remember being able to gauge if a Netflix series or movie was good just by the ratings.
It was, I think it was one out of a hundred.
Amy Schumer broke it and literally got rid of the system figuratively, not just her physical size.
But that's beyond the point here.
And they got rid of it because it broke the paradigms of what they wanted to be approved.
Again, Netflix has a long history with a lot of psychological manipulators.
That's a whole different topic to get into.
But I mean, what is it with Dr. Fauci?
I mean, is he really like this cult-like, lord, god-like figure?
tim pool
They call it the Fauci Ouchie.
What's wrong with these people?
It's weird how this cult developed around a guy.
There's photos going around of protests from 30 years ago that say Fauci lied and people died.
And it was because of the AIDS epidemic and all that stuff.
And Fauci's been around long enough that people have hated him for generations.
But somehow... I posted this on Instagram.
Actually, let me see if I can try and pull it up on Instagram.
Let me see if I can... Uh-oh.
What?
Instagram error?
lydia smith
What are you doing?
No more Instagram.
unidentified
Bye.
tim pool
No more Instagram?
lydia smith
Interesting.
unidentified
That's weird.
tim pool
Okay, Instagram's not coming up.
Never mind then.
Let's try this again.
So there's a meme about the left.
Okay, this is weird.
I think I got it right here.
I just had to go in a different way.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
Huh, weird.
tim pool
Here we go.
All right, we got the meme.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It says, old left versus modern left.
On the left, in the image, you can see an old hippie Volkswagen and it says, you know, no CIA, free speech, free love, resist authority, screw the establishment.
And on the right is a big SUV that says, do what you're told, mask up, heart the CDC, obey the establishment, no free speech.
30 years ago they said Fauci was bad.
Now the left, they're all coming out and they're like, oh Fauci!
And they're doing that thing, remember that dance they did where they spun and then the big Fauci face popped up?
unidentified
Oh no.
That's insane!
tim pool
Look, look, look.
I can understand.
If you're like, hey man, we want everyone to get vaccinated and we think we got to work together to end the pandemic.
I'm like, okay, I get it.
You know, you know, some people have different tolerances.
I personally believe in freedom, but there's a political argument there.
But when you start pulling up gigantic, you know, blankets that are huge portraits of Fauci in the street, as you sing and dance, I'm like, yo, you're in a cult.
And then, and then these people are like, no, Donald Trump is the cult, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know about all that, because I'm not waving MAGA flags or anything.
All I know is y'all have a giant photo of Fauci spinning in the street, and it's weird.
The thing is about the Trump stuff, we went to a bar, and they had that meme picture of Trump on the tank.
And I'm like, it's purposefully ridiculous.
These people are self-aware that it's like, I love it when Ben Garrison would make comics about Trump.
He'd always be ripped.
lydia smith
Incredible.
tim pool
Like, I'll admit some people absolutely are in that Trump cult.
No joke, but they're not institutionally powerful.
This is like mainstream corporate television late night shows with giant Fauci banners singing and dancing on that stuff.
You're not going to get that from mainstream libertarians, independents, or conservatives.
They are legit in a cult.
Fauci, of course.
with a portrait of himself in his own office.
lydia smith
What was that?
tim pool
To be fair, Joe Rogan brought up a really good point.
He was like, I don't know, his daughter maybe painted it for him.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
And I was like, eh, it's actually a really good point.
lydia smith
That does make sense.
tim pool
Like, if your kid painted a portrait of you, you'd hang it up.
Not because it's you, because your kid made it for you.
luke rudkowski
But a little vain.
tim pool
I know, I want to say.
No, no, I don't think so.
Because someone sent us a picture of me, and someone who works here put it up, and I think it's kind of weird.
I'm like, eh, it's a picture of me.
lydia smith
It's my face, why?
tim pool
Yeah.
Someone who works here put it up.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But let me just say, let me say, I will not give Fauci the benefit of the doubt for hanging up a portrait of himself in his own office that he works beneath.
Fauci seems like the kind of guy who instructed someone to paint a portrait of himself to put in his office.
You know what I mean?
luke rudkowski
And to make immaculate and perfect and if there was an imperfection he would whip the poor painter immediately who didn't get his likeness perfectly.
unidentified
I would like a painting of myself in my office and don't spill any paint droplets otherwise you'll ruin my work.
lydia smith
Amazing.
luke rudkowski
It's not just paintings, it's candles, it's Christmas decorations, there's people getting tattoos, it's idol worship, it's absolutely insane!
tim pool
I got one of those, you know those candles of like Mary and Jesus?
What are they called?
lydia smith
Votive candles?
tim pool
Someone brought one over with Fauci's head on it.
luke rudkowski
And Cuomo.
Como was also loved and adored by the media, just like Fauci was.
And again, you know, you can't give these people the benefit of the doubt because of their behavior, their real life behavior.
Like Dr. Fauci in his real life, I mean, Justin, you should talk about this in a little bit, is not a great person, especially with the actions that caused a lot of animal harm and human harm.
But more importantly here, he's publicly talking like he's God, like, he's science.
tim pool
Yeah, let's get into the story.
We have this one from TimCast.
Ted Cruz ran Paul Fireback at Fauci over smug claim that he represents science.
It's not the first time Fauci has done this.
And at what point do regular people just say, yo, this guy's kind of an egomaniac?
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
He's like, I'm the science.
tim pool
Okay, well.
From tipguess.com, in an interview with Face the Nation over the weekend, Fauci said,
they're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous.
My favorite thing about the current state of the modern left is the, um,
we believe in science people. And it's like, you know, I think Luke Givishirt that says that.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
If you question it, it's science.
If you can't, it's propaganda.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
tim pool
And that's, that's a really, that's it right there.
Concise and to the point.
Science is literally questionable.
Science is literally to be criticized.
If someone comes out and says, I'm a scientist.
I say, okay.
And they go, you can't criticize me.
And I'll say, then you're not a scientist.
Because scientists actually welcome challenges to their ideas to try and better understand things.
Fauci is not that.
Responding to Fauci's claim on Twitter, Senator Paul wrote, The absolute hubris of someone claiming they represent
science, it's astounding and alarming that a public health bureaucrat
would even think to claim such a thing, especially one who has worked so hard to ignore the science
of natural immunity.
Well, I'll tell you this, Fauci does represent science.
Not all science, but he certainly represents gain-of-function research.
Reckless and unethical and amoral experimentation to make chimeric COVID, SARS viruses, not COVID specifically.
unidentified
Well, no, he changed the definition of gain-of-function, so... Because he is science.
He is science, so he changed the definition of gain-of-function, so now it's not gain-of-function because he says so.
tim pool
That would be like a funny cartoon where it's like the first humans discover science.
They're digging in a hole and they find a book.
And then all of a sudden, once they come to the realization of science, Fauci just manifests in midair.
unidentified
And he's like, I am born!
I am science!
tim pool
And now we don't realize it's actually a 50,000-year-old manifestation of science itself, and we're criticizing him.
How dare we?
lydia smith
How dare we, yeah.
That makes sense.
luke rudkowski
But it's crazy, I mean, his comments, talking about how he's science, how he represents everything that has to do with science, and people who criticize him are creating damage to society by criticizing him in science?
I mean, are you kidding?
What kind of egomaniac do you have to be to say, anyone holding me accountable, anyone criticizing me of my decisions is harming everyone else?
That's an absolutely, just totally insane thought That people shouldn't have, and it's because he's been glorified.
He has so much smoke up his family-friendly show, Tookus, that I'm surprised he's not flying in midair.
I mean, this man had the mainstream corporate media adore him, and he's only doing interviews with people who don't question him.
people who adore him people who of course live off every word like it's gospel and he also brought up january 6th which was interesting because he said oh ted cruz wants me arrested and then he like said oh yeah what about january 6th and he made this like weird slithering mouth tape I released a video of that just on replay, like 10 times, because it's just so awkward and weird with him getting so giddy about the idea of January 6th.
tim pool
No, it was like, it was desperation.
So he gets asked by the interviewer, she's like, you know, Ted Cruz says you should be prosecuted.
unidentified
He goes, I should be prosecuted.
tim pool
Senator, tell me about January 6th.
And I was watching that and I was like, I don't know, what about it?
Like, Ted Cruz was sitting in the chambers, apparently being threatened by an angry mob.
So, are you saying other people were threatening Ted Cruz?
Because Ted Cruz was like, in there, you know, talking.
And then had to be evacuated with everybody else.
Was that it?
Like, is that Fauci's play?
Like, well, Trump and January 6th!
It's like, yeah, I don't think Ted Cruz had anything to do with that.
So, your point?
luke rudkowski
But let's not forget, this man also lied about so many aspects of what was happening here.
He changed his mind.
He keeps continuing to flip-flop without any dose of kind of reality of saying, hey, I made a mistake here.
Has he ever done that?
Has he ever came out and said, hey, I was wrong before.
This is my admission.
I haven't seen one.
He hasn't been talking about a lot of the other important stuff that a lot of other medical professionals have been talking about all around the world.
I mean, how far does this go back?
I mean, Justin, I think you would know more about this.
Like, how far has he been calling the shots in a way where it's kind of been affecting people and animals in such a disastrous way?
unidentified
Well, I mean, it goes back 40 years from, you know, where my interest is as taxpayer-funded animal experimentation.
I mean, Fauci ushered in the modern era of experimenting on primates, particularly chimpanzees.
I mean, he was the biggest champion of that.
created a massive colony of chimps that he was infecting with HIV back in the late 80s and early 90s, saying that this was going to be the silver bullet for AIDS vaccine, that we just had to infect enough chimps with HIV.
Well, it turns out they don't get AIDS.
A couple have gotten AIDS.
They didn't get sick.
It was a complete failure.
He never acknowledged that, of course.
We ended up with these chimps who were just warehoused for decades and abused because Fauci had created this problem.
But we don't have an HIV and AIDS vaccine after 40 years of Fauci promising one year after year.
I mean, they're still doing experiments on primates now for HIV AIDS, promising every year, oh, we have a breakthrough.
Here's the vaccine that's going to, you know, that's going to protect everyone.
We still don't have one.
And that's aside, I mean, 40 years, that's aside from what he's doing now to dogs and primates like Tim Kess has been covering with Monkey Island.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll get into Monkey Island in a second.
unidentified
But also, you know, I'd like to say about Fauci and, you know, you made a great point, Luke, about the media feeding his ego.
I mean, I was doing an interview with the Washington Post a few weeks ago.
They were working on a hit piece about us because we've been criticizing Fauci and they straight up asked me, don't you think you criticizing Fauci for paying for the torture of dogs is hurting his ability to do COVID response?
Those two things are completely unrelated.
tim pool
What did you say?
unidentified
I said, I don't know of anyone not getting, wearing a mask or getting a vaccine because we're criticizing him for torturing dogs.
And they seem shocked about that.
tim pool
I would just, you know, it's, it's an absurd question.
It's like, uh, Fauci's the head of the NIAID.
He funds a lot of research beyond all of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like what, okay.
Can you, can you, I'm asking this like literally.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Can you name something the NIAID funds that's not gain of function and not animal research?
unidentified
It's hard.
I mean, they probably fund more animal research than any other agency inside the NIH.
tim pool
The reason I ask is, there certainly are things that are funded that aren't gain-of-function and that aren't animal research.
And I don't know if you know, I know your specialty is specifically on animal stuff, but for someone to ask you, like, aren't you concerned you criticizing Fauci over animal research is hurting his ability to work on COVID?
It's like, I don't know, is it hurting his ability to develop, like, you know, something, like to do other research on other areas?
Is it affecting his plant research?
Is it affecting his fish research?
Look, if Fauci is doing research on viruses and biology and plants, why aren't you asking me that question?
Oh no, what about crop yield?
You're coming and talking about COVID?
I get it, but Fauci is the head of an entire department.
So of course, I guess, you know, criticizing him in one area will have an impact on everything he does?
unidentified
If they want to give him credit for all of the great that they say he's doing, then he also has to accept blame for the evil that's happening under his watch also.
That's, you know, that's just the reality of it, but they don't want to accept that.
Instead, they want to try to delegitimize the critics, which is what they've been trying to do to us.
tim pool
And it's a stupid argument.
I mean, I understand that a lot of people on the right will certainly be like, wow, Fauci's a bad dude when they see him doing bad things.
But I think that's independent.
It's in and of itself.
If Fauci does bad things, you call him out for it.
If people right now are really concerned about Fauci because of the gain of function research and the lying to Congress over and over again, then I think people have a reason to be like, what other bad things has this guy done?
Hey, that sounds really bad too.
Here's the other thing.
You know, we talk a lot about animal research, but like, I don't know, there's probably a whole bunch of other stuff I can't even think of.
They probably do a ton of really awful, crazy stuff.
luke rudkowski
I'm seeing one article here by NPR that talks about how NIH tested AIDS drugs on foster children.
What?
What?
This is NPR, May 27, 2005.
NIH tested AIDS drugs on foster children and a lot of people are saying that Dr. Fauci was the one responsible behind that, allegedly, online.
So I'm seeing a lot of talk about this as well.
Have you seen anything?
unidentified
Yeah, I've seen that.
tim pool
Oh yeah, we got it.
Here it is from NPR.
Holy cow.
NIH tested AIDS drugs on foster children.
luke rudkowski
So, you know, these are big stories that a lot of people don't really recognize.
tim pool
In the 80s and 90s.
That was Fauci, wasn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
So it's not just animals.
It's not just monkeys.
It's not just, you know, there's so much to get into, especially when it comes to the kind of effects that is all being done in the name of helping people that really boggles a lot of people's minds.
tim pool
Wait, wait, let me read this.
This is from CBS News.
The research funded by the NIH spanned the country.
It was most widespread in the 90s as foster care agencies sought treatments for HIV-infected
children that weren't available in the marketplace.
The practice ensured that foster children, mostly poor or minority, received care from
world-class researchers at government expense, slowing their rate of death and extending
But it also exposed a vulnerable population to the risks of medical research and drugs that were known to have serious side effects in adults, and for which the safety of children was unknown.
I love that really warm thing.
It's like, we were experimenting on children, and it was world-class experimentation.
Thanks, Doctor.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they didn't have any adult advocates, so they tested them, which is just mind-boggling and should, of course, raise a lot of concerns.
This should be a bigger story.
A lot of people should understand this, and they're not.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
In one study, researchers reported a disturbing higher death rate among children who took higher doses of a drug.
That study was unable to determine a safe and effective dosage.
Yo, they straight up killed kids.
That's what it's saying.
The drugs they gave them resulted in a higher death rate.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, all in the name of Dr. Fauci conducting his scientific experiments.
tim pool
Yo, here's your answer from now on if you ever get asked anything like that.
If they're like, are you concerned you're hurting his work on, you know, treating COVID?
And be like, well, I mean, if it's also hurting his work on, say, giving dangerous experimental
AIDS drugs to children that result in a high rate of death, it's probably a good thing.
luke rudkowski
To foster children and orphans who don't have any adult representation.
tim pool
Minorities!
So Fauci is a white supremacist.
lydia smith
Indeed.
luke rudkowski
Kids can't give consent.
lydia smith
That's true.
tim pool
Gave foster kids who can't consent drugs that result in a higher rate of death and they were minority children because Fauci is a white supremacist.
luke rudkowski
That's something that the Democrats and a lot of power establishments can't get through their heads.
That one particular phrase, kids can't consent.
And again, I got a lot more to say about that when it comes to the Maxwell.
tim pool
Some foster children died during studies, but state or city agencies said they could find no records that any deaths were directly caused by experimental treatments.
luke rudkowski
Yeah?
Did you ever look into that, Justin?
unidentified
Not that specifically, but I mean, we also deal with the same crappy reporting that we're seeing here, where everything is cushioned with some lovely phrase about how well-meaning the NIH is, but then we killed kids.
I mean, the Fauci recently paid for dogs to have their vocal cords cut so they couldn't bark in the lab, and then the sentence after that was, well, it was a little too loud.
They don't want to hurt the eardrums of the experimenters.
tim pool
In that famous, the big story that went viral, the beagle story, they had the beagles, their heads in boxes with, what are they, sand flies or something?
And they had to snip the vocal cords of the dogs because the agony the dogs were in, they'd be screaming and writhing.
So they were like, eh, just snip their vocal cords so we can't hear it.
Make it all go away.
There's a short film, a series of short films put out by Neil Blomkamp, I think his name is.
And the first one is about like aliens come to Earth and just start harvesting cities and building up and terraforming and they treat humans like cattle or whatever.
And it just shows, like, how they experiment on humans.
It was an idea I had a long time ago about, like, if an advanced species came here, how would they treat us?
The funny thing is, my initial idea was, like, aliens come to Earth, they slice buildings in half and rip the copper wiring out and just harvest it like we would a tree or any other mineral.
And then I realized that it doesn't need to be aliens when people do it.
It doesn't need to be aliens doing the stuff when the billionaire elites, the political class, treat human beings like cattle, like chickens, you know, in a chicken coop.
Humans do it to each other.
Let's talk about what Dr. Fauci is doing here with the story we've had from Tim Cass.
This story actually went up earlier this month, a couple weeks ago.
Exclusive!
Fauci's NIAID funding island of monkeys in South Carolina used for horrific maximum pain experiments.
This is a report by Cassandra Fairbanks with sourcing from White Coat Waste Project.
Dr. Anthony Fauci and the National Institutes of Health are using an island off the coast of South Carolina to breed monkeys for use in horrific maximum pain animal experimentation.
And I must state, I hate doing this, but I had to remove the images from the article because I can't show them on YouTube because they're graphic.
But this is what Fauci's NIAID is funding.
And I have to wonder why it is.
So, do you want to break down for us what this, this primate island stuff is?
What is Fauci doing?
unidentified
Sure.
So this is, it's called Morgan Island.
It's off the coast of South Carolina.
There's, in fiscal year 20, there was 3,521 monkeys on this island.
And each year they take about five or 600 of them into Fauci's labs.
Fauci owns the monkeys.
Fauci's division owns these 3,500 monkeys.
tim pool
Now, hold on.
Is this Fauci, like, As an individual, pointing the finger and saying, I want these monkeys moved, or is it like him signing off on a grant and then throwing it into a pile?
unidentified
It's unclear.
We have FOIA requests in to see what his degree of knowledge is about this directly.
But it's been in the news a lot over the years, the fact that this place exists.
He probably knows about it.
It's a big program of theirs.
It's where they get most of their monkeys.
tim pool
He's signing off on the grants to run this stuff as the director.
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
So it'll be interesting to find out to what degree of his involvement is.
But yeah, carry on.
Tell me what's going on.
unidentified
So they take about five or six hundred of these monkeys off the island each year, bring them to the labs in Bethesda and Maryland, and then they expose them to infectious diseases including COVID, including HIV AIDS, including Nipah virus, Lassa, lots of lots of illnesses that no one in the United States has ever gotten.
tim pool
That sounds really dangerous.
unidentified
It's dangerous, and it's also, is that how the NIH should be spending our money?
You know, when there's plenty of neglected diseases that are hurting people.
I mean, our position is that the taxpayer should not be funding any of this at all, and the private sector should fund it if it's so important.
So these experiments involve, you know, creating diseases that are causing monkeys pain, hemorrhaging, multi-organ failure, brain damage, and then they completely withhold any pain relief because they don't want it to interfere with their experiment that's looking at how these diseases progress.
So some of these experiments are just to see what happens when you create a monkey model of these horrible infectious diseases and then So that's, we call them maximum pain experiments because they're classified as causing significant pain and distress and then intentionally withholding the pain relief and just watching these monkeys slowly die or quickly die, depending on what the disease is.
tim pool
So they're doing it because they're like, we want to know what happens with this disease.
It reminds me of, I don't want to, you know, equate humans and animals to a great degree.
I certainly think primates as, you know, a higher intelligent species, there's degrees to which we're willing to tolerate torture of animals in experimentation.
But it does remind me, well, I'll start here first.
I was just saying how elites treat us like chicken, like cattle, like, you know, just fodder.
And we had, what was it, Unit 731?
unidentified
741?
tim pool
Yeah, I can never remember the numbers.
Do you know the Japanese Experimental Unit, World War II?
They would take, one example is they took a person and they stuck their hand in, like, sub-zero temperatures, so it would freeze, and they shattered it to see what would happen.
And then you had the Nazi scientists.
They were basically, I wonder what'll happen if I do this to a person.
Now, interestingly, they say that a lot of the stuff we know about frostbite comes from these inhumane human experiments.
And I'm like, you know, at a certain point, my attitude towards freezing to death and losing limbs is kind of like, we know you'll lose your limb and you'll freeze to death if you are exposed.
And how about we just have to reconcile the fact That our knowledge of hypothermia must come through emergency accidents.
Like, if you want to learn about frostbite, it's going to be due to the fact that someone got lost in the cold, and you're bringing them into the hospital to save them, and watching what's happening, not subjecting them to these experiments.
In this case, maybe scientific progress shouldn't be sped up by the fact that we're taking primates that we breed on an island to basically torture, just to see what happens.
unidentified
And the point is, is it's not sped up by doing this, right?
So our name, you know, White Coat refers to the experimenters in their white lab coats, and then Waste is a reference to the fact that the NIH on its own website admits that 9 out of 10 drugs that pass animal tests fail in human beings because they don't work or they're dangerous.
So we have $20 billion a year spent on animal experimentation.
We know that it's failing 90 to 95 to Alzheimer's, for example, Alzheimer's drugs, over 99% failure rate.
So it's an incredible waste of money.
There's very little return on investment for taxpayers, which is why we think that if this stuff is so important, let the Gates Foundation fund it.
But we know that there are not private foundations that are going to fund a lot of this stuff because it's completely wasteful, it's irrelevant, and it's not going to help anybody.
tim pool
And what is it, just lining people's pockets with gold?
unidentified
Oh yeah, it's big money.
I mean, universities are taking 25% off the top just for administrative fees.
And then you've got experimenters driving nice cars and living in gated communities.
And it's big business.
You've got the companies that make the cages, that breed the animals.
There's a company that runs Monkey Island, and they have a $13.5 million contract.
tim pool
So we went and saw Ghostbusters Afterlife.
Thought it was fantastic.
Great movie.
And then the next day I was like, oh, let's watch the original Ghostbusters.
The original Ghostbusters is about three university professors who are doing paranormal research operating off a grant.
And then the dean comes in and says, we're shutting down your grant.
And all of a sudden they're like, what do we do?
There's a scene where Dan Aykroyd is talking to Bill Murray and he says, you don't know what it's like in the private sector.
Out there they demand results.
In here you get grant money, you sit around and do nothing.
And I'm reminded of that because that's it.
There are people who are probably sitting there and their field of research is, you know, nerves and pain and stuff like that.
And they're like, I don't know what to research.
Let's just get a bunch of badgers and beat them or something.
I don't know.
And then they get a grant and then they get hundreds of thousands of dollars for the grant.
The university gets their cut.
They get paid a six figure salary.
They get to drive their nice car in their gated community.
And just like, hey, we hit a gopher with a hammer and it died.
That's what we learned.
unidentified
I mean, I'm obviously exaggerating, but you're not that far off.
tim pool
These universities are corrupt, man.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, we're paying for monkeys to get addicted to nicotine and crack and cocaine at some universities.
I mean, that's really happening.
tim pool
Somebody was like, I will take monkeys and give them crack.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And then the guy was like, done.
Stamps it, signs over the grant.
Where does the grant come from?
The government?
It's taxpayer-funded?
unidentified
All of this is taxpayer-funded.
You've got rodents smoking jewels.
You've got, uh... Jewels?
tim pool
Like, like, like... Vaping.
unidentified
The douche flutes.
Vaping?
tim pool
They got... Wait, wait, wait.
Rodents vaping.
unidentified
Vaping.
They build special vaping chambers just for mice and rats.
And then they put literal jewels, not some lab-created off-brand.
I actually use Jewel Brand.
tim pool
Can you just imagine being, like, a researcher and you're, like, at a party and you've got, like, your elbow patches or whatever and there's, like, you're this dude and this hot chick's like, so what do you do?
unidentified
It's like, I give vapes to rats.
tim pool
Like, wait, what?
Yeah, we have rats.
unidentified
They vape.
tim pool
And she's like, what?
It's my job.
Yeah, we have rats vape.
She'll be like, that's a really weird job.
I really doubt there's a... These guys, like, do they lie about their jobs?
Because I can't imagine that impresses anybody.
They're at their high school reunion and one guy's like, you know I was a captain of the high school football team
and I'm actually coaching a college, a small college in Missouri.
And it's like, oh wow, that's actually pretty good.
One guy's like, I'm actually a senior vice president of a marketing firm, wow, and what about you?
I give vapes to rats.
unidentified
So, uh-huh.
lydia smith
So this is a classic case of the supply exceeding the demand or whatever.
It's a little bit like racism.
They're looking for it everywhere.
They can't find it.
They have to make it up.
If you give people a bunch of money, like literally unlimited money for grants for this nonsense, they're going to do stuff like see if rats know how to vape and they'll spend a bunch of money on it.
I don't know why.
tim pool
That one to me is just like, I'm just imagining South Park doing a bit about like a rat walking up and just vaping.
It's the perfect real world scenario that's ripe for parody and it's pure absurdity.
Like, why are we doing that?
People, humans are vaping!
We can ask them to come into the university and we have them answer questions and then do a physical and we have data on people.
unidentified
And we know that, you know, for years, the connection between cancer and smoking cigarettes was obscured because the tobacco companies were relying on animal research.
And they're saying, oh, no, it's fine.
Animals don't get sick from smoking cigarettes.
And now we're doing this, making the same mistake over again.
tim pool
Mistake or intentional.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
We got to do more aspartame research, too.
luke rudkowski
I don't know.
Donald Rumsfeld, favorite particle.
But Justin, how much is this?
How much of this is scientific research?
How much of this is just cruelty?
unidentified
I mean, I'd argue that it ranges from the stupid to the sadistic, right?
So what's happening on Monkey Island I think most people think is sick and shouldn't be happening.
And then you have last week with Senator Joni Ernst, for Thanksgiving we highlighted putting turkeys on treadmills, which was taxpayer-funded.
tim pool
Why?
unidentified
to see if domestic turkeys ran faster than wild turkeys.
Do they?
tim pool
Why is that?
unidentified
I don't remember.
tim pool
Now, we got a very serious threat from China.
And if we're talking, you know, like land ground combat and like a land war in Asia, Maybe we need to understand which turkeys can carry the weaponry into the field, either for combat or to bring supplies.
Hey, maybe we get a turkey and we put a first aid kit on him and we let him loose?
ian crossland
Cybernetic.
tim pool
And we need to know which turkey is going to run faster.
ian crossland
I have no... It may just be...
tim pool
Let me put it this way.
There's probably some turkey researcher who's sitting in his office right now smoking a cigar going like, these idiots.
They have no idea.
And he's got like this top secret document about like turkey research.
And he's discovered something in turkey muscle cells.
It's possible we just don't understand something about turkeys on treadmills, but I think they need to justify that.
Like they need to explain the goal of letting us understand why a turkey runs faster than another turkey.
Because I gotta be honest, I got a 410 for turkey hunting, and I don't think it matters how fast a turkey runs.
You gotta lead that turkey if it's a domestic.
They're like, the research is completed!
And now we're including a warning label on all 410 turkey load that says, lead the target slightly more if it's a wild turkey compared to a domestic released turkey.
lydia smith
That's what it's for, yep.
tim pool
Like it's paid for by gun companies for hunting.
unidentified
And that would be fine.
Let them pay for it.
Let the poultry producers pay for it to see who the fastest turkey is.
But should pack bears be feigned?
tim pool
There's like, the research is because some dude has like underground turkey races.
He's using government funding to try and get an edge against it.
He like flies to Mexico and they're like, run!
unidentified
Vamos!
Vamos!
tim pool
And the turkeys are running.
I can't imagine.
luke rudkowski
Tactical turkeys.
Justin, did you see any of these papers and think, hey, this actually does make sense.
I actually do want to know about this.
This actually does benefit humanity.
Did you ever see any of those particular studies yourself?
unidentified
Sure, I've seen interesting questions that have been asked, but the question for me then comes back to what is the cost to animals, which I'm concerned about, and then what is the cost to taxpayers?
Is this something we should be bearing the burden of, especially when we know how inefficient it is?
And, you know, to go back to your point about university research versus private research, I mean, there's no incentive in taxpayer-funded animal research to innovate, or to solve a problem.
Because the second you solve the problem, the money gets cut off.
So the incentive is to keep going, and going, and going, and not solve the problem, and just tinker until you retire.
luke rudkowski
That's how the government works!
And that's how Big Pharma works, and the prison industrial complex, and the military industrial complex, and all the others.
tim pool
It's how non-profits work.
Most non-profits, they don't want to solve their problems.
Because then, they go out of business.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But that's why I think, you know, a lot of this research is just a guy sitting there being like, I need a proposal, otherwise I'm broke, so let me just write up whatever I can and, you know, get it approved.
unidentified
And, I mean, to your point that you made earlier, I mean, some of it, you know, you asked about the point of some of this, I mean, some of it is just tinkering at great expense to humanity, like gain of function, where you're just trying to take a naturally occurring virus and see if you can make it more dangerous.
tim pool
It seems like a lot of the gain-of-function stuff was literally just, we need something.
Because you either can, you look at their official explanation.
Oh, we did gain-of-function so that in the event this virus emerged, we'd have a vaccine for it, we could research it.
And it's like, what's the likelihood a virus like that would emerge?
Are you literally going to make 50 billion different viruses, hoping that one of them, that's ridiculous.
So then it just sounds like they're either trying to weaponize it, or they're just bored and like, I'll do whatever if you give me a grant, I guess.
Considering how Fauci circumvented the ban, and like changed definitions and tried to weasel his way through this, sounds more like they were just trying to make weapons.
unidentified
It could be.
I mean, EcoHealth Alliance, the intermediary, the nonprofit that was taking the money and sending it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, it's a U.S.
nonprofit.
And actually, White Coat Waste was the group that we exposed the link between the NIH and the Wuhan Institute of Virology that that money was passing through.
They were also applying for money from DARPA, from the DOD, to do gain-of-function research,
and DARPA denied them, saying this was too dangerous, and they hadn't taken proper precautions
to protect against causing a pandemic.
luke rudkowski
So going to China with very lax safety protocols and the Chinese government looking over the
shoulders of every scientist there is definitely the smart, reasonable thing to do by, of course,
Mr. Science Man and Peter Daszak.
Peter Daszak, the bat lady, I mean, when you delve into and do research into him, holy cow, you find out a lot of, quote, very interesting stuff that we can't even get into on this show.
But when you really look into these people, all the Warning signs are there on the wall.
I mean, I don't know how much research you've done into those individuals as well.
But is there anything you could say personally yourself from your research about what they have been up to, what they have been involved in?
unidentified
I mean, Peter Daszak has connections to the Chinese Communist Party going back decades.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
unidentified
Literally.
He's a darling of theirs, which is why they gave him access, which is why they let him in there, which is why they took his money, and which is why they let him come in and do gain-of-function experiments that maybe could be used for Whatever purposes that they could use that a military or a rising power that wants to challenge an existing power might potentially use.
luke rudkowski
Again, we're getting into the hypothetical here.
We're speculating a little bit, which we need to talk about clearly, but with the information that we got, I don't think it's too far of a stretch to exhibit some of those ideas or to examine some of those ideas under a critical point of view.
unidentified
I'm speaking, of course, very Listen, I think it would be naive to ignore the fact that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is run by the Communist Party and that it has ties to the PLA.
It doesn't mean that what they were doing was intended to be weaponized, necessarily, but what they were doing was incredibly dangerous and something that we wouldn't allow to be done here.
Yeah.
And that the Chinese Communist Party is bending over backwards to cover up and, you know, they've deleted the database with their virus database that might lead us to whether they had a virus that was like the COVID-19.
They deleted that in September 2019.
The researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology got sick with COVID-like symptoms in November 2019.
The wife of a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology died apparently in December 2019.
Before all of that, at the Wuhan military game, there was apparently one of the original super spreader events.
So everything points to the fact that this laboratory is at the epicenter of the pandemic here.
And there's literally no evidence that this thing came out of nature naturally, other than the fact that other pandemics have started that way.
tim pool
There have been, so the challenge is if you're a layman, you're reading the news, there are reports, they do say that the wet market natural emergence theory makes the most sense.
But I think, I'll just throw it to Jon Stewart on Colbert's show, when he was like, you have the Wuhan lab that does experiments on SARS viruses, and then a SARS virus emerges just across the street from the Wuhan lab, and they say the virus may have originated a thousand miles away or something, it's like, John Stewart was a little more exuberant in his presentation of this, but the way I describe it is it's like you find, you know, somebody laying on the ground face down with, you know, a bruise on the back of their head and someone standing over them holding a bat, and you're gonna be like, hmm, there's no evidence to suggest this person hit this other person, so, I don't know, it's just speculation, guys.
The best theory is the guy just fell down!
That's crazy.
and he fell down and that's it.
It's like, I mean, I think it's fair to speculate.
Can we go look at the cameras?
Oh, I'm sorry, the cameras have all been deleted and destroyed?
Oh, about that.
And the guy who was leading the investigation is actually friends with the guy with the baseball bat.
Oh, he's funded.
Okay, so we got a problem here.
luke rudkowski
And he's censoring all the information about this entire incident and how it unfolded?
Huh.
Interesting.
tim pool
It reminds me of that Family Guy joke where the bar burns down and then the new owner gets all that insurance money.
And then I guess the main character's wives ask the insurance guy, they're like, don't you think it's a little weird that he took out an insurance policy for a fire and then had a fire the next day?
And the insurance guy goes, no, actually it happens all the time.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Don't you think it's a little weird what's happening with the Wuhan virus, the news reports, the refusal to release the data and the genome and stuff?
And it's just like, are we supposed to sit back and be like, this is normal?
When it's very clearly not, and they're trying to stop us from investigating what happened at the lab.
at that point it's like look i am the science yeah i am if there's if there's a virus SARS COVID virus that emerges next to a lab that researches on and does chimeric uh you know experimentation the creation of chimeric SARS viruses it's the most ridiculous thing in the world to be like But it probably came across the street from the wet market.
unidentified
And they've tested 80,000 animal samples, haven't found a single animal who had SARS-CoV-2.
Yet you have these viruses that are more than 96% identical that they were experimenting on and trying to supercharge there in Wuhan.
tim pool
And now we got Omicron.
Joe Biden says that if we don't need to, I love this, the headlines are like Joe Biden says no
lockdown necessary. And I was like, yeah, that's what they said in January or whatever. Joe Biden
was like, we're not going to be logging down doing mandates.
And then you actually get to the middle of the story where they bury the lead. And he
actually said, for now, if everyone gets vaccinated and wears masks, then they won't
be necessary.
And then there's this video of University of Michigan, I guess, football game running onto the field, tens of thousands of people, and I'm like, yo, people are not going to follow these rules.
They're saying no to this.
Now they're saying, Daily Beast has an article that says, we screwed up, this is really a three-dose vaccine.
Bill Maher already came out and said, I took one for the team.
I got my shots.
I got two.
I'm not doing it again.
And I'm like, the CDC says the definition of fully vaccinated will change to accommodate three shots.
The Daily Beast is saying it's actually a three shot vaccine.
So now if you only have two, you're not fully vaccinated.
So Joe Biden's going to have no choice but to be like, look, come on, man.
People didn't get vaccinated.
So we got to lock down to save lives.
I think it's going to be another lockdown like it was last year.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
Joe Biden has this habit of doing this thing where he goes, we will all have unity and we will all get along if you do exactly what I tell you to do.
And I'm like, how is that unity?
We're not getting along for just doing what you tell us to do.
This was what I was talking about earlier with elitism.
He thinks he knows exactly what's right for everyone.
It's crazy what's going on in Australia.
You see what's going on in Australia with the lockdowns?
down again and you can go screw yourself because I'm in charge, which is not the way the US
was originally intended to run.
This is not how it's supposed to be, but we've gradually stepped up what a president can
do and say, and it's bad.
tim pool
It's crazy what's going on in Australia.
You see what's going on in Australia with the lockdowns?
So the amount of insanity that's directed my way over this is, it's hilarious.
I got like text messages from people like, yo, what's going on?
Like people are talking about you.
And I was like, I tweeted that the quarantine camps were, I was hyperbolic.
I said concentration camp in a tweet.
And all of a sudden they're screaming at the top of their lungs.
And so someone tweeted a video of the minister of the, I believe it's the Northeast Territories in Australia.
I don't know a lot about Australia, their politics, government, states, or whatever they call them, provinces or states.
I think they're states.
But he basically said that, you know, I'd like to thank the ADF, which is the Australian military, the Australian Defense Force, for helping transport suspected COVID cases and close contacts to the Howard Springs facility.
He also said in that statement, That they're removing the five reasons for leaving your home.
The five reasons were exercise, work, medical reasons, getting food, or, you know, if you order something.
And he's like, this means they no longer have the five reasons, and they can only leave for emergency medical procedures.
To put it mildly, if you live in these areas, they have announced you can't leave your home to eat.
Then they say they're transporting these people to the Howard Springs quarantine facility, which I guess is a first, I believe, where they've been relocating internal Australians to these quarantine camps.
And then all of a sudden on Twitter, the whole narrative becomes, is it voluntary?
And all these Australian personalities are either saying, Tim's a conspiracy theorist, because I quote it, it's literally in the Guardians.
The Guardian article wrote this.
Or they're like, well, Tim, to be fair, there's no evidence it's forced.
And I was like, let me get this straight.
You send in the military, you tell them to their faces, you can't leave your home to eat.
And then you say, but if you'd like to voluntarily come with us to a quarantine facility, we'll give you food.
That's not force?
There's no scenario in which they are not forcefully relocating indigenous people.
And these are people who don't even have COVID.
They're close contacts.
There's numerous stories about people desperately trying to escape the quarantine facilities.
One woman set fire to a room, forcing an evacuation.
One woman jumped the fence and like ran off and got caught and then fined $5,000.
So does that seem people are too happy to be there?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's also crazy footage of police officers and security guards running up to people because someone dared to put one foot outside of their perimeter zone that they were allowed to be in outside of their holding cells.
I mean, there's also allegations of forced vaccination by some of the indigenous people in Australia.
There's also record waves of protests hitting the streets of Sydney, hitting the streets of Melbourne.
I mean, some of the videos, and it's so crazy that we're not even hearing anything about this mass movement, this mass awakening of hundreds of thousands of people hitting the streets, not just in Italy, not just in Melbourne, but in Guadalupe as well.
There's so many places around the world that just are saying, hey, we believe in natural rights.
We believe in human rights.
You shouldn't be taking this away from us in the name of this emergency.
And still, there's not really a mention of this, which is absolutely mind-boggling for me personally, to say the least.
tim pool
I think lockdowns are coming.
For a lot of reasons.
We're seeing it in Europe.
Australia just implemented another lockdown.
They were like, we're easing lockdowns.
I'm like, oh no, Omicron got here.
And people are like, how did Omicron get into Australia if you can't enter unless you're vaccinated and you can't even leave unless you're vaccinated?
Well, it's because Omicron apparently, as a variant, is less likely to be stopped by the vaccine, I suppose.
So, sounds like everything Australia is doing isn't stopping anything.
They're going nuts with it.
In the U.S., I think we'll follow Europe's, you know, what Europe is doing, all these different, you know, European countries.
I think that the United States is going to see more and more blue states come up with excuses why they need to reinstate the lockdowns, bring it all back, and conveniently right around an election year.
Midterm elections are going to be very important, and they're going to do everything in their power, in my opinion, to try and fortify the election, to put it mildly.
luke rudkowski
Well, Israel and Japan just closed their borders to all foreign visitors.
Israel also just announced that they're using their intelligence agencies to have temporary permission to gain access into the phone data of people who were in the countries with confirmed Omicron variant cases.
So again, there's nothing temporary about these new laws and rules that they're implementing, but for them to use the national security state Israeli intelligence agencies to hunt down and to contact trace people who were in a country with cases in the name of security is just absolutely mind-boggling and the opposite of security in my opinion.
tim pool
You see Ryan Long's sketch about being pro-Pfizer?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
tim pool
He was like, my pronouns are Pfizer.
What do you say?
Pfizer.
Or whatever.
I thought that was really good.
But he basically walks around.
He talks about how he's like, it's a skit, but he's like, I used to be a leftist and I was, you know, against all the big pharma, and of course I don't like Martin Shkreli, but Pfizer is different.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
I got the Pfizer vaccine.
And he walks up to a guy.
And this is interesting.
The first thing I always say about this stuff is like, look, I get it.
You know, if you go talk to your doctor, figure out what makes sense for you.
We're not here to give you advice on that stuff.
But in this Ryan Long video, he walks up to a random guy in the street and he's like, are you a Pfizer guy?
And the guy's like, oh yeah.
He's like, I got all three, man.
I'm in for three.
And then Ryan's like, oh yeah, you're going to go four and five?
He goes, I'm going to do all of them.
unidentified
And I'm just like, wow.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
And those are average day people just saying, yes, I'm going to comply.
Meanwhile, South Africa is also reporting no major uptick in cases.
They're reporting mild cases.
The scientists who discovered this new variant publicly came out and talked to the BBC and said, people are panicking unnecessarily.
So we still don't know what's going on here.
Again, I'm not a medical doctor.
I'm not a medical professional.
We're not here giving you medical advice, but I think it's fair to say that we're in a position where we don't know what's happening, and I think we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions or spreading fear at the same time, which doesn't help anyone, stresses people out, and actually lowers people's immune system.
tim pool
Actually, people can, I don't know if somebody wants to look this up, someone super chatted that Dan Bongino had got a breakthrough case of COVID because he's vaccinated, and that he took the Rogan cocktail.
Oh, I think that's right, yeah.
It's crazy to me.
That I can have a doctor say, go to sleep and sleep it off.
And then me be like, I would like a second opinion.
And then call another doctor says, let's give you the full run.
And then the media be like, Tim's dumb for listening to his doctor.
I'm like, what was I supposed to do?
No doc.
And this is what I tweeted.
I was like, my doctor says I should take this medicine, but Don Lemon says it's a bad idea.
And of course, Don Lemon knows better than my doctor.
That's the reality we're supposed to be living in.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, CNN can't do wrong.
They're holy, and everyone should listen to them, and they should all be recommended to everyone's YouTube searches, and they're so innocent and loving.
tim pool
Daily Beast wrote an article that said Tim Pool is the new poster boy for Ivermectin, and the reason they chose that headline is specifically because I have not promoted it, and actually talked about how I told my doctor I didn't want it, and that I was like, I feel better, I don't want to take it, and they instructed me, you have to.
We're prescribing this, you should do it.
And I was like, I don't want it.
I ended up taking it anyway.
But they say Poster Boy because if they said I promoted it or was shilling for it or anything like that, that would be a false statement of fact.
Poster Boy is a meaningless opinion statement that can't be deciphered properly.
You know what they're trying to claim.
They're trying to make it seem like I'm out there.
Like, I went on Joe Rogan's show and I actually still argued with him about it.
Not like a strong argument, because I'm not a doctor and I really don't know.
But I was just like, I don't know, man.
I think this stuff's challenging when you've got political sides and they're making arguments about stuff.
Some people just want to believe it works.
Some people don't want to believe it works.
And I think it's fair to say there are some studies that are very positive.
There are some accurate studies that are, you know, indeterminate.
But really it just comes down to what your doctor offers you.
So for me, it's like, if my attitude is slightly towards the negative, like, You know, people say they don't approve it because they don't make money off it.
And I'm like, if Merck manufactures this stuff, sure, they can make more money off something proprietary, but they could easily get emergency use authorization for this if they wanted to.
So maybe there's a profit incentive or something, I don't know.
But if I call a doctor and the doctor's like, we're giving you, you know, Zabodine or something, I'm not gonna be like, whoa, whoa, doc!
Like, I don't know.
That word sounds weird.
I'd just be like, okay, I'll look into it and, you know, we'll see if it makes sense for me.
And then if, when it comes to ivermectin, I know a little bit more about it.
I was like, the monoclonal antibodies did me right.
And I feel, I feel totally fine.
And they were like, no, we prescribed it for you.
And I said, okay, doc, what did you say?
Yeah.
Isn't that the attitude the left says you're supposed to have, like the establishment left?
Trust your doctor, trust the science.
But when I literally do that, they write smear articles about me.
luke rudkowski
And I wish this wasn't so political.
I mean, even the naming of this variant has been political.
It's the World Health Organization skipping the Greek alphabet in order to appease someone with a similar name, Z. Wait, what?
lydia smith
They skipped that one.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, so the Anikram variant should have been called the Z variant.
X-I.
Yeah, X-I.
unidentified
No way!
luke rudkowski
Yeah, but the World Health Organization skipped it.
tim pool
Oh, we're calling it the Xi variant.
lydia smith
Yeah, we should.
That's way better.
luke rudkowski
So again, when you have such politicization, when you have so many people benefiting off of this, you should be able to ask questions.
You should be able to have an open discussion, and we can't.
And a lot of the discussion is being hindered.
A lot of the conversation is being stopped.
A lot of the debate, a lot of scientists are even being hindered.
And that's absolutely a nonsensical start in many people's minds.
And if you want to convince them, you want to win hearts and minds, start with an open, honest conversation.
We don't even have that.
tim pool
Let's call it the, you know, we have the Lemon variant.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Well, the next one will be, who should get it next?
Seltzer or Cuomo?
The Cuomo variant?
luke rudkowski
Cooper.
The Cooper variant.
tim pool
Just all of CNR.
luke rudkowski
No, excuse me, the Vanderbilt variant.
tim pool
Yeah, why is his name Anderson Cooper?
Is it because his mom didn't change her name or what?
luke rudkowski
I have no idea.
I didn't really do that much research into it, but he was raised by the Vanderbilts and also attended a very interesting after school programs in college.
tim pool
Let's just double down on it because they tried skipping over the Xi variant.
We'll call it the Xi Jinping variant.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like that.
That's good.
tim pool
We'll just literally name it after him.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Well, no, it's not a compromise.
It's us doubling down like, oh, you want to not say Xi will add the Xi Jinping to it
just to go straight for it.
Well, how about we go to Super Chats if you haven't already.
Smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, and share the show with your friends.
Go to TimCast.com, be a member.
We're going to have a members-only segment coming up in just a little bit, and I'm going to type, smash the like button right now in chat, and then enter it in.
luke rudkowski
We got the Lubin-Tubin variant as well that people are commenting in the chat room.
tim pool
The Lubin-Tubin variant.
Did that work?
Okay, it worked.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We're going to read some Super Chats.
And see what people have to say.
Gerald Armstrong says, remember when Jussie Smollett was in The Mighty Ducks?
Is that true?
luke rudkowski
He was?
lydia smith
I think he might have been.
I know his sister was an actress, too.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Yeah, she was in The Great Debaters.
ian crossland
Jussie Smollett?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
That ruins my all-time favorite movie.
lydia smith
Mighty Ducks, I was gonna say.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I don't think I've ever actually seen The Mighty Ducks.
lydia smith
Look it up.
I'm looking it up.
ian crossland
Yeah, according to IMDB, he was.
unidentified
Wow.
luke rudkowski
They gotta bring it back.
unidentified
1992.
tim pool
I love the Jussie Smollett story.
Just, it's like, because it was so dumb, growing up in Chicago, the area where he claimed to have been attacked, like I've been there so many times, people don't live there for the most part.
So he's just like this D-list celebrity at 3 a.m.
or 2 a.m.
getting a sub sandwich, and two Trump supporters in Chicago, for some reason, because Chicago's deep blue, in freezing weather in the wee hours of the morning happen to spot him while they're carrying a noose and a hot sauce bottle full of bleach.
luke rudkowski
And MAGA hats.
tim pool
With MAGA hats on, who then yell, it's MAGA country, and throw the noose on his neck and splash him with bleach or whatever.
And I'm just like, wow.
luke rudkowski
And fight them.
No, fight.
And he fought them off.
He fought two of them off and beat them up.
tim pool
Amazing.
Well, the El Sendero brothers, I guess, are going to be testifying against him.
luke rudkowski
It's going to be interesting.
lydia smith
Word to that, yeah.
tim pool
Restless Medic says, Tim, thanks for being consistent in your advocacy for gun rights.
It definitely helps change minds to see a former anti-gunner see reason.
I was never an anti-gunner, though.
Well, I guess technically you'd say that.
My attitude initially was just born out of ignorance of kind of like, maybe we can have a reasonable discussion about, you know, proper distribution, but people should be allowed to have guns, Second Amendment.
And then someone commented, then I think we should be able to have some reasonable discussion about limits on your free speech, because that's also in the Constitution.
And I was like, I get your point, okay.
If you want to change gun laws, you got to change the Constitution first.
End of story.
So that's basically my position for the most part.
I certainly think, you know, there are issues.
There was a story I was reading today about a dad who killed his daughter.
They were out hunting white-tailed deer and he was unloading his gun at his truck when it went off and hit his 11-year-old daughter.
They transported her to the hospital.
She didn't make it.
The comments were all basically like, he screwed up.
There's no way that could happen if he was taking proper care of his firearm.
And I struggle to imagine a scenario in which that would be a wrong statement.
Like, he was pointing the weapon at his daughter while he was unloading it?
Like, come on, man.
Or it was a freak accident ricochet, or his daughter was 11 and did something dumb.
But when you handle weapons, you take it extremely seriously.
Yeah.
But so I don't know exactly how you solve that problem.
I will just say it's quite simple.
There's no discussion to be had until the, until the second amendment is amended.
Until the constitution gets an amendment, you have no grounds to argue for taking away
anyone's right to keep in bear arms.
Erica Baum says, for some reason I can't watch your videos on your site.
It just buffers, starts over, etc.
I still pay to support you, but please make an app.
We'd pay for it.
Love y'all.
I'm sorry about that.
Well, I'll look into it.
Could it maybe be like your browser or something?
Maybe a different browser?
Connection, maybe?
I think it's probably another connection if she can watch videos elsewhere.
But also, we are working on an app.
We are trying to get the app done ASAP, but my understanding is that if you use the Brave browser, you can listen to all of the videos on our site with your phone in sleep mode, the screen off, because Brave will allow the audio to keep playing.
I'm sure it's Brave that does that, right?
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
Awesome.
We use Brave for everything.
Brave, in my opinion, is the best browser.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
D.W.
says, Hey Tim, I'm from Lubbock, Texas, where Chad was shot.
Kyle won't face charges.
Ex-wife is the county judge, and he's currently got millions in contracts with the city.
Also, it wasn't his home.
He lived on the other side of town.
So you guys know the story about Chad Reed?
luke rudkowski
The video that came out of the guy having an altercation about his son and his wife was there?
tim pool
It's a crazy story.
So basically, this dad goes to pick up his son.
And he's like, where's my son?
It's 3.15.
And the wife said he's not here.
And he's like, why isn't he here?
And she's like, because I wanted to see him.
So the dad's like, I'm going to haul you into court.
unidentified
I'm going to subpoena you and him and them.
tim pool
So he's angry.
But the threat he made was a legal threat?
That's the appropriate threat.
He's there as per a court order to pick up his son.
But then the ex-wife's boyfriend comes out with a 9mm carbine and says, get off the property.
The dad, Chet Reid, gets in his face and says, you know, I dare you, mother effer, you know, use it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Dude fires around in the ground, they struggle, get knocked back, then the guy who was there,
the father is on the porch, and the guy, Kyle, the ex-wife's boyfriend, gets thrown about 10 feet,
raises the carbine and just pop, pop, and kills the dad, like, almost on the spot,
he just hits the ground.
So a lot of people were questioning whether or not it would be self-defense
because the dude got in his face, but I did a segment on it talking about
an article from Andrew Branca, plus my assessment, and he said it's probably manslaughter,
there's no justifiable self-defense in this capacity.
My attitude is like, if I'm court-ordered to pick up my son from my ex-wife,
and then you come out with a gun and say no, Yeah.
You are hereby abetting a crime to kidnap a child in violation of a court order, and all the dad did was close the distance and get in his face.
ian crossland
He did grab the gun.
tim pool
But the guy fires into the ground.
ian crossland
Before he grabbed the gun.
tim pool
But either way, my point is, and that's a good point though, but my point is, if you are holding my son against his will and against a court order, and then you bring out a gun, you are trying to kidnap my son with a threat of deadly force.
So the dad trying to grab the gun, I would argue, is in defense of others.
They're kidnapping his kid!
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
I mean, it's a horrible case.
It's a hard case to watch.
tim pool
That dude should not have shot Chad Reed.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, he wasn't... Chad Reed was making legal threats and only got in his face when he pulled out a gun on him.
So again, if you're keeping my kid from me, and I don't have kids, but I can certainly imagine... I'd love to ask Jack about it.
Jack would probably be like... Jack Murphy.
unidentified
He'd probably be like, dude!
tim pool
You refuse to turn over my son to me?
Don't be surprised if someone, at the very minimum, gets in your face.
Of course not.
Chad Reed.
I'm just saying this.
Legally, probably not justified.
But I think on a human level, I'd imagine Chad Reed would have been more than justified to do a lot to save his son from these people taking him from him.
Apparently he had already called the cops.
So at this point it's like, he threatened him with court, he called the police, why did the dude bring a gun out?
Everything was going well, other than just yelling.
Now the dude's dead.
This is a messed up story, man.
Messed up story.
unidentified
I wish people would have de-escalated on both sides.
tim pool
None of your business, says Gislaine Maxwellcase.
We'll get into that in the members-only segment.
That's gonna be spices, a lot of details, a lot of information is being withheld, but we'll definitely get into that stuff.
All right, let's see.
Jay says, your sponsor wraps you into a loop of other purchases before you can finalize your order.
I pulled my order, but they still have my card number.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that.
I don't know.
We just got the info on this thing, on this stuff today, and I really thought the product was pretty good.
lydia smith
Yeah, hit up the site for sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, DragonNoodleSoupGaming says, Hey Tim and Co, I know you guys have asked about when the last time new Christmas songs were made.
The last I remember was from the Polar Express 2010, I think.
There's a lot of Christmas songs.
These are like, prominent ones, you know?
They never make any new ones.
It's what a doctor told me to take.
You know, they gave me an inhaler too.
And I'm like, I don't know.
he is recovering from breakthrough COVID-19, used the Rogers Rogan Pool cocktail.
It's what a doctor told me to take. You know, they gave me an inhaler too. And I'm like,
I don't know. I didn't use it. Because I'm like, I was breathing. But they were like,
this is for emergencies.
We prescribe you a bunch of stuff.
I don't know if, I don't know if that actually ever came up, that we, that I got an inhaler, like for emergencies, if you couldn't breathe.
But that was a part of it.
I didn't have to use it.
I'm just saying if my, whatever the cocktail they get is, it's because a doctor was like, hey, I think this is what you should get.
Okay, Doc, I guess.
It's just this ridiculously moronic story where they're like, only listen to your doctor if he prescribes Fauci's method.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, what?
I don't know.
My doctor told me to do something.
I said, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Or tells you to go home and, you know, walk it off, allegedly.
tim pool
Well, here's my thing.
Like, when the first doctor said, walk it off, I was like, they didn't tell me to do anything.
They didn't give me any advice.
They didn't explain anything to me.
They just said, sorry, we have nothing for you.
So that wasn't actually an opinion on anything.
It was kind of the absence thereof.
So that's why I was like, okay, I guess.
I actually was going along with that until I was like, I'm going to talk to Joe about what he did and what he was feeling.
Cause I wanted to know, like, was Joe really sick?
Was he was bad?
Cause I was getting really bad.
And Joe was like, bro, just call somebody.
And then I was like, all right, all right, all right.
So I was like, I'll call someone else.
And, um, and they were just like, we want to give you the full, the full gamut of these, these, these treatments.
And this is a, this is a Maryland Baltimore, uh, doctor.
This is not a, Rogan's in Texas.
That, that, you know what I mean?
Like, so I was just like, okay, doc.
The cult is so insane.
It's just absolutely lunatics.
Like, listen to your doctor!
Unless he tells you to take what Rogan took, I guess.
No, listen to your doctor.
If your doctor gives you advice, and you don't like it, you get a second opinion, and then, you know, that's what you do.
John Curry says Luke is on fire tonight.
Yeah, that opening bit was fantastic.
unidentified
It was great.
lydia smith
It was funny.
tim pool
People were saying you should make a Garbage Pail Kids collection of all the CNN hosts.
unidentified
Yeah.
That sounds good too.
I like that.
tim pool
That's awesome.
Oh, it's right here, actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Dad Teaches and Words to My Son says, Luke, just make the 2022 Garbage Pail Kids lineup CNN edition.
lydia smith
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Might as well, honey.
I'm writing that down.
I'm telling my team right now.
unidentified
Garbage Pail Kids, man.
tim pool
Matthew Wesley says Fredo will never be fired.
unidentified
Yeah, it's probably.
tim pool
A Squirrel Guy says, been watching since the beginning.
Keep up the great work.
Love the new site, by the way.
Hey, appreciate your membership.
Camel of the Mojave says, Occupy Wall Street was just a bunch of college kids wanting a bailout on their own McCollege.
I'm too stupid to say no to learn a trade.
There were a lot of people at Occupy Wall Street who were very much like, der, you know, let me get a bailout.
But it was an eclectic bunch in the beginning.
The problem is, I blame the right for this, to be completely honest.
The leftists are diehard ideologues who are willing to sleep on concrete or marble in the rain to get what they want.
And the first week I was there, boy, did I see a ton of libertarians, conservatives, Ron Paul types.
In fact, that's where I met Luke.
But the right got up and walked away after the first week and saying, I'm not sleeping on the floor!
lydia smith
That worked today.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
A lot of people had work, to be fair, but a lot of the right aren't willing to go the lengths the left is.
I mean, let's be real.
The left is willing to burn down buildings and infiltrate media organizations to get what they want.
It's horrifying.
The right doesn't, so nobody cares.
There's no worry.
The right won't even boycott things.
Some people on the right will be like, I won't get a Netflix subscription.
And then most will be like, but the new show was out, so I'm just going to buy it anyway.
And there you go.
luke rudkowski
You get what you ask for.
tim pool
Ligama Thigayan says, Are any of us surprised by the Cuomo allegations?
He has big time at Mel Gibson in South Park Energy.
Cabra. Remember that?
unidentified
Um, no, I don't.
luke rudkowski
But the Alec Baldwin introduction into this story was also not surprising because they all hang out with each other.
It's just, it's just so crazy that all of them are just buddy buddy friends together, getting away with shooting people and stalking people and harassing people and doing other unspeakable things to people and just their own little special club.
tim pool
Aaron Stevenson says Kyle said Milwaukee will burn if there was foolery in the Democratic primary.
He says the violence helped mobilize.
Oh, he says there was.
The violence helped mobilize is not cool, man.
Get Jimmy Dore, not Kyle.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, Jimmy would be great.
lydia smith
Yeah, that'd be awesome.
tim pool
Jimmy's very much a populist.
He's very lefty.
But I also kind of feel like they both know they agree on a lot of things, and Jimmy has no problem being like, I know I agree on a lot of things with Steve Bannon.
Because he's fearless.
The leftists hate him because he's honest.
I disagree with him on a lot of his economic opinions, but he tells the truth.
And he fired a guy over a misquote.
Some guy on his staff, I guess, took a quote and then contracted it, which kind of changed the context, and he fired the guy.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
And the left is mad. They're like, Oh, how dare he?
And it's like, that was the right thing to do.
Like Jimmy was like, he's out.
But I think Kyle would be good because I think Kyle acts in good faith.
You know, he does that show with Crystal Ball.
Crystal might be great as well. Yeah.
You know, maybe Crystal and Ben, I think they'd have an interesting conversation.
But, you know, I think Kyle would be more interesting because
I think Kyle is well aware that he probably does agree with a lot of people.
But interesting to see that dynamic.
Whereas Crystal and Sagar, you know, they have a show together already, so of course she understands that the right populace and left populace overlap on a lot.
luke rudkowski
It's still crazy that we were in the room when Jimmy Dore went after Alex Jones and spat on him.
And me and Tim were just sitting there like, what in the world is happening now?
How are we here?
tim pool
That was the RNC, right?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
RNC or DNC in Cleveland.
I forgot which one it was, but we were inside the press media room.
tim pool
It was the RNC, I'm pretty sure.
luke rudkowski
And then Alex just walked right by us and then, like, took over the Young Turks show.
tim pool
They were doing their show, like, in the hallway.
Like, anyone could have walked up and said, Alex Jones did.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they had the Roomba cam going around as well.
I remember that.
Those were wild days.
tim pool
Cactus Production says, hello Tim and crew from Oregon.
Our state is trying to implement a digital vaccine passport.
If any Oregonians are watching, please email members of the state legislature.
They're trying to slide this right under our noses.
I would be going back to Oregon.
People I know in Illinois, like my old friends, are just like, it's bad.
Like everybody's on edge.
The more they talk about, the more the media fear mongers, the more they're worried it's going to get locked down.
I'm hearing from people that in some areas of Illinois, like suburban areas, their businesses are like strict masks, restrictions, all that stuff.
Out here, I don't know.
I haven't really noticed anything.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I mean, it all depends where you go.
It all depends on the neighborhood.
It all depends on how they're enforcing it.
A lot of places, even in places like New York City, they're not really enforcing a lot of the mandates.
Even a lot of the mask stuff in places like New York City, some people just don't care.
tim pool
Joel Exling says, if you guys think the dog and monkey experiments are bad, wait until you read chapter 7 of RFK's new book, The Real Anthony Fauci, Dr. Fauci, Mr. Hyde, NIAID's barbaric and illegal experiments on children.
I think we ended up getting that article.
Yikes, man.
That's crazy.
I love all this talk.
Someone mentions Pete Buttigieg, but I love all the news about Buttigieg's White House run and rumors, and I'm like, that dude's... Come on, man.
I'll be honest, though.
I didn't think Biden could do it because of his senility, but Pete Buttigieg... If Biden could pull it off, I guess.
luke rudkowski
If Kamala could be in there anyway, I'm surprised myself.
I can't believe she was able to still be in there.
tim pool
Yeah, she didn't win a single delegate.
Tulsi did better than she did.
No one liked her.
That's interesting.
Because they can argue that it's not a negative against you.
It's a positive for someone else.
But then you can argue that taking away the ability for a raise or a potion from you is discrimination.
lydia smith
Yeah, I could definitely say that.
I think you have a case there.
tim pool
Okay, what is this?
Nathan Simpson says Rand Paul spent like 20 minutes exposing government spending on stupid research.
Search Senator Paul on spending projects and science and technology bill.
I think I remember that.
luke rudkowski
He does the festival, I forgot what he does.
unidentified
Festivus.
luke rudkowski
The Festivus report every year.
And what date does he do it?
lydia smith
December 17th or something.
luke rudkowski
December 17th?
It's awesome.
Yeah, it's coming up so I'm going to be paying attention to his Twitter account for that.
tim pool
Justin Casillas says never use a 410 for turkey is inappropriate.
I mean, maybe I don't know.
I haven't actually hunted turkeys.
I just have a 410 and I bought a variety of 410.
So there's like slugs.
There's I got 410 buck and I got 410 game and 410 turkey.
luke rudkowski
We should get a hunting expert on just to teach us how to hunt and make our own food and cook your own meat and have someone on the show but then also do a vlog segment where we learn how to do this ethically and teach people how to not rely on factory farms.
I think that would be something that would be worthwhile.
tim pool
We're looking at making Freedomistan totally self-sufficient.
So we got a lot of work to do on the new site.
We're probably going to build a studio there.
We're probably going to move a lot of the production over there.
Just because we have more acreage and we can do a lot more projects.
So we can actually have a gun range and all that stuff.
A proper range with, you know, all the safety stuff and all the good stuff.
And so we want to do solar power completely over the top, overproducing the solar.
We would need to operate the business out of this new space and to expand.
And then we could have, you know, survival people come out and, you know, we'll grow our own food.
We have a greenhouse already.
So we're gonna be able to grow stuff all year round.
It's gonna be fantastic.
luke rudkowski
Build some natural shelters.
That would be really cool.
tim pool
We'll get some shipping containers and we'll just bury them.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that'd be fun.
tim pool
That'd be cool.
Make a little... Bunkers.
Yeah, a little... I guess.
I think, you know, I don't really expect ever to use a shipping container buried as like a real bunker to survive anything.
It would just be a fun little, like, little room to hang out in.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Put a TV down there, some recliners, and just have a private little secret underground thing.
And then, you know, secret little tunnel where when you open it, it looks like grass.
It's like a wood thing with grass over it.
lydia smith
Sounds fun.
tim pool
It'd be fun, man.
It'd be fun to have.
Just because it's silly, not because it's serious.
But yeah, it's going to be cool.
We're going to be able to put on a really great range.
I took a look at the property again because we just finally, like, fully secured it.
Now we got to do a bunch of utilities and power and construction and cosmetics.
But there's a great spot.
The wooded area, actually, Luke, it goes uphill.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Perfect.
So it's absolutely perfect.
We can easily set up a good range, probably up to a couple hundred feet.
luke rudkowski
We could probably do more excavating and even push that a little bit, which I think would be awesome.
tim pool
If we tear down the middle hill area, we could probably do, like, 500 feet.
luke rudkowski
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, massive.
Crazy.
The issue is, though, just, you know, safety and security of everybody.
We gotta make sure it's very, very safe.
Nevermore says the strange part about the Cult of Fauci is wasn't there candles for the guy working on the Russiagate investigation too?
This isn't the first time they were making idols of people.
lydia smith
Yeah, and Stacey Abrams.
tim pool
There's like a, I saw a picture of like a little Fauci, and it looked like a Hanukkah thing.
What's it called?
unidentified
A menorah.
tim pool
A menorah, but it was shots.
lydia smith
Oh, gosh.
I saw a little nativity scene made out of masks.
tim pool
Yeah, I saw that on Reddit.
lydia smith
What is wrong with you people?
Stop!
tim pool
It's a cult, man.
lydia smith
It really is.
tim pool
Look, I'll say it again.
I understand that there are some people that are like Q, full Trump.
They believe crazy things.
But you watch like that Daily Show guy, whatever his name is?
lydia smith
Trevor Noah.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
The guy who goes on the ground and they gave him his own show, but that got canceled because it was dumb.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But he does these things where he shows up to these rallies where there's a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
They're always old people.
Very much older who believe a lot of the more crazy, culty Q stuff.
We're sitting here on this show with tons of viewers and we're like, I don't know about all that Trump Q stuff.
I don't believe that.
But these people have institutional power and they're in a cult.
And they get mad about it.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Whatever, I'm just glad that more and more people are starting to wake up and realize it.
Miniaturized Strangequark says, now Tim is planning Turkey Town after Chicken City.
No Turkey Town, but we're just about ready to start launching Chicken City.
So Chicken City is up.
We just need to now, I think we ordered some cameras.
We want to do waterproof PTZ cameras.
It's pan, tilt, zoom.
So that we can have one camera move and look in different directions.
So then we'll have the chickens all do their thing.
I gotta tell you, man, Roberto Jr.
He's so big.
It's crazy.
So we had the original six.
We got a transplant.
And then they had babies.
And now we have, I think, what do we have, seven babies.
And they're all just so big, it's crazy.
We were gone for the week in Austin.
I came back and I was like, man, those things got huge.
We've got a bunch of roosters.
unidentified
They're awesome.
tim pool
So we also inherited two chickens at Freedomistan.
So we're gonna be moving a bunch of the roosters over there to reduce the fighting.
So the three Black Star Chicken boys, they're friends.
And because they grew up together, we can keep them together.
But I was reading that they should be fine, technically, growing up and knowing who the boss is, because we have the one big rooster.
That's still too many roosters.
So we're going to take away, you know.
ian crossland
Are they okay to move?
Daniel Turner mentioned transplanting chickens can be dangerous because you take the toxins in their body to the new environment.
tim pool
Yep, the worms and stuff.
But it's either that or we let them go.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So, we can move them, and it could be bad, but, you know, they're all adults.
So, at this point, the cockerels are getting very close to adulthood, but they're not fully mature.
The problem is, if they become mature, then they could start fighting with Roberto, so we're gonna have to relocate them to the other place.
But yeah, Daniel was mentioning, you gotta be careful about the parasites and stuff that are in that specific coop.
But, you know, it is what it is.
Alright, Noober9 says the problem with Unit 731, the Nazi experiments, was that they were conducted unscientifically.
For instance, they would freeze limbs but not record the temperature.
I would say the problem with them is that they were human experimentation, cruel, torturous, and psychotic.
But I get your point.
I get the point.
I don't think he's, you know, diminishing the psychosis involved in the horrific experiments, but it is a good point that that actually shows just how depraved they were.
The fact that they weren't actually recording things shows it wasn't really about doing science, it was the cruelty.
It was just like, I don't know, let's see what happens.
lydia smith
To be fully fair, a lot of what we know about some really bad diseases come from really awful experiments.
So we need to find a better way.
But right now, what we have is very much from these horrible experiments, unfortunately.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
Scientific progress.
I mean, I think like you point out, Justin, a lot of it is just waste.
Literally serving no purpose, not speeding up anything.
It's just dumping money on ridiculous things like do fish feel pain?
I can't believe they actually did that research and like, yes, they do.
It's like, No kidding.
I think a fisherman could tell you they do.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
The Festivus report two years ago, Rand Paul's report, included an example we had of nicotine-addicted fish in England that we're still paying for now.
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Well, you know, look, if we're gonna be selling these cool Marlboro 100s or whatever to fish, we gotta know if they get addicted, because if they don't, what's the point?
lydia smith
Fair point, yeah.
tim pool
We have a salmon farm.
Can we get some cigarettes for them?
They're all addicted.
I just don't understand.
You know, I suppose there's some argument in seeing whether or not nicotine affects aquatic life the same way land mammals or something.
I mean... It's possible.
There's a lot of context we don't get in some of these stories, but I really think it's incumbent upon them to justify them when questioned.
You know what I mean?
And if they can't, maybe we need to weed out the waste of money.
But I think you make a good point.
Taxpayers should be funding it regardless.
Should be the private sector.
All right.
Thomas Sidebottom says, I watched Biden's announcement today. Honestly, for a second,
I thought it had to had it had cut to a commercial because it sounded more like a
hard sales pitch for the vaccines than talking about COVID-19 Omicron variant. Oh, yeah.
Mr. Zenmancer says Luke making Emperor Fauci I am the science shirt.
luke rudkowski
There you go.
I like that idea.
unidentified
I'm writing my team that right now.
tim pool
Like that chair when it comes in, I am the science.
luke rudkowski
There's a meme going around like that already.
tim pool
But it can't just be that.
It's got to be like, you know, Mace Windu or like someone saying, or maybe like you, like, you know, we're here to challenge, criticize the scientific establishment.
unidentified
And then he says, I am the science.
luke rudkowski
Or like electricity going through his fingers and hitting an orphanage.
unidentified
Let the science flow through you.
Good.
tim pool
Custos Videosus says, Tim, for the love of God, do not bury shipping containers in the ground.
They were designed to be stacked, not buried.
If you bury them too deep, the weight will destroy the container.
No, I'm not talking about, like, digging 10 feet in the ground, burying it, and then dumping dirt on top.
I'm talking about, like, leveling it off of the ground so you can open it and go right in.
Like, I'm pretty sure that's fun.
luke rudkowski
Well, there's some companies that are using it just, you know, they don't bury it too deep.
They bury it just a little bit, and it's still used as like an underground little bunker for some people.
ian crossland
You also stack them like Jenga, so you don't want them all, because they will collapse on themselves, but they won't collapse if they're Jenga.
tim pool
Did you see that hotel, that apartment complex they built of shipping containers?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it got postponed because of like, you know, COVID stuff.
lydia smith
Shortage of shipping containers.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what it was.
Shortage of, yeah.
Talk about the nightmare dystopia.
Our low-income shipping container home was- Our pods!
Yeah, our pods are no longer available because they can't get them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the bugs aren't available because they can't ship them.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Welcome, man.
Lee Nicholas says, legally it's not kidnapping.
The dad is supposed to go to the court and file a motion.
As dumb as it sounds, that's the law.
Family court is broken.
I completely agree.
But, um, that's why I was saying the human element here, like, you take a child from his dad, and then the dad gets angry.
The worst thing he did was he got in the face of the guy and started yelling at him when he pulled out a gun on him.
I wouldn't have been surprised if he just immediately tackled the guy to the ground because he pulled a gun on him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Granted, he wasn't brandishing it, but still, crazy story, man.
Erratic Bear says, is Omicron an Autobot or Decepticon?
Oh, Omicron would clearly be a Decepticon.
lydia smith
Definitely.
tim pool
A lot of people mentioning that Omicron is an anagram for Moronic.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like that one.
tim pool
Scott Odom says, Tim, I designed power systems and have done some solar.
Hit me up.
I'd be glad to help you guys figure out what you need.
The challenge with solar is just, it just takes so long.
We've been waiting, I think, seven months or longer for Tesla to get the solar done here.
So if you know somebody who works at Tesla Solar, ask them, like, we're approved.
Everything's approved.
We've been sitting here waiting for months.
And they're just like, we'll let you know.
Maybe it's a shipping thing.
Maybe they can't get the solar panels.
But we were going to get like, so we had the power go out here once during the summer and we had to run the whole show off these backup batteries that we have.
And it was really hot and like we're all sweaty and it's dark, but we were able to do it.
And then I was like, man, what's going on with those backup batteries we ordered from Tesla, man?
It's been forever.
lydia smith
Months, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you know.
Those power walls, we get them, this whole place can operate for a couple days.
unidentified
Nice.
That's exciting.
tim pool
Yeah.
The power could go out.
So the thing is, being out in the middle of nowhere, like the people in the area have all said, if the power goes out, it could be days before they can figure out how to fix it.
Like, if a line goes down, you know, it's a rural area, it's not a city.
unidentified
So, that would be very, very important, but... It might come in handy during the apocalypse.
lydia smith
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
Joseph Hutchins says, I live in Danville, Illinois, about three hours south of Chicago.
No one enforces masks here.
Every other city of decent size enforces it, but not... enforces it a lot more, though.
That's basically what I hear, and I think it's kind of similar in a lot of places.
Like, where we're at, we're about an hour from D.C.
D.C.' 's ridiculous.
People are freaking out, they're enforcing everything.
And then you come out to West Virginia, it's only an hour drive, and it's just like... people are shrugging.
There are a lot of businesses though that do have signs up saying like, please wear a mask or whatever, but mostly people don't.
And I gotta be honest, I just don't go to them.
So this is actually really funny.
There was a mom and pop, like bakery and coffee shop.
And the other day we went there and there's a big sign saying, please wear your mask.
And I look inside and everyone was wearing their mask.
And then I look behind me and there's a Starbucks.
And I'm like, eh, I walk over to Starbucks.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
No mask mandate.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And then I was just like, wow, I really don't want to give money to Starbucks.
But if the mom-and-pop shop doesn't want my business, they don't want my business.
I got no beef.
I'm not gonna go in there and argue and be a, you know, a Karen like... I was like, okay, no, I didn't have a mask.
I got no problem being like, oh, I have a mask.
I can put it on.
I didn't have one.
Because most places don't require it out here.
So when I walked up and I saw it, I was like, I don't got one.
Let's go Starbucks, I guess.
luke rudkowski
A lot of people have those signs, but a lot of them don't enforce them, from what I've noticed myself personally.
Some do, some are very strict about it and uptight, but I don't think arguing with your fellow man or woman is something productive, and I think a lot of people get caught up in the emotions of it, and they're like, you're doing this, and they make people enemies when they're not supposed to be enemies, and you just gotta let your ego go and stop arguing with your neighbors.
tim pool
For the most part, I don't think anybody enforces it out here, but my thing is like, if I see a big sign before you walk in saying, you know, please wear your mask, I'm going to be like, okay, I'm not going to go into their private establishment and start causing a problem for them.
ian crossland
I was at the airport.
I missed my flight and spent about 17 hours on airplanes and airport last week.
tim pool
That is not surprising, Ian.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
Get there early for the holidays, by the way.
You're gonna go fly.
Two hours is not enough.
luke rudkowski
I made my flight.
ian crossland
I wore a mask for... it was so wet at the end of the day when I took it off.
It was so gross.
It was wet.
I had to keep pulling it out away from my face to breathe dry air because it was so wet.
It was so... just clean your mask.
Please wash your mask tonight and think of me while you do it.
lydia smith
On request, but okay.
tim pool
All right, everybody, we are going to head over to that members segment and we're going to talk about that Maxwell case.
If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, go to TimCast.com and become a member because you get a massive library of all this behind-the-scenes content.
We have two new shows launching probably this week.
Get this, we're doing something crazy.
You really gotta check out Tales from the Inverted World.
A lot of people, you know, some people are saying, I really love it, some people are like, oh, I don't know if I'm into this show.
Look, look, look, we just launched it.
So it's getting into its groove, it's getting going.
You gotta start something, you gotta build it up, but it's okay, because eventually you will come around.
The latest episode is 41 minutes long.
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
And it's about alien abductions, and YouTube put a big warning on it, being like, alien abductions aren't real and stuff.
But it's just talking about a guy's story.
It's fascinating, there's music, there's images, it's really cool.
What we have on TimCast.com is a members-only segment where we have Shane, who writes this stuff, having conversations with people about these stories and these conspiracies.
Like, I don't think conspiracy is necessarily the right word.
We're launching another show that is a general conversation about all of these random stories and random conspiracy theories.
So there's the script, there's the written version, say scripted, but like written investigatory version where Shane goes down to Georgia and investigates ghost stories and abductions.
Then he has a members only conversation, but now we're going to be launching a public conspiracy conversation show and they'll both promote the members only, which is a combination kind of of both.
So you're going to want to check that out.
And that's going to be a free show we're making thanks to you guys as members.
We can make this happen.
And then we're launching a pop culture show which will also have more members content.
So I'll tell you this.
The more members content we produce, the more money we lose.
Because we're not making any extra money.
But we're hoping it just makes more people want to be members and funds more work and we can grow this business and create more culture and do all that stuff.
So make sure you're a member at TimCast.com because we're going to have a pretty spicy segment coming up.
That being said, don't forget to smash the like button.
You can follow us on Instagram, TimCastIRL, and basically everywhere else.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, or wherever else, at TimCast.
unidentified
Justin, you want to shout out White Coat Waste Project and any other... Sure, yeah, at White Coat Waste on all social media platforms, whitecoatwaste.org.
And if you're feeling like sending a note to a member of Congress about Anthony Fauci, dogsagainstfauci.org.
luke rudkowski
That's a great website.
I like that website.
DogsAgainstFauci.org.
unidentified
Yep, and that's the one that Twitter and Google have both censored and won't allow us to run ads about.
luke rudkowski
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
luke rudkowski
Okay.
That's gonna be a good website.
I'm gonna be looking up myself.
And personally, I have my own YouTube channel and media organization under We Are Change.
So if you want to see my latest rant and screams, You can on YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange.
I did an extensive video today about the Maxwell trial.
It's definitely worth a listen.
And because you guys do that, I'm here.
So thanks so much for checking out my YouTube channel.
And Ian, that's a very nice exclusive t-shirt you have there that you could get on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.
ian crossland
TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.
Thanks for getting me this shirt Luke.
WeAreChange.org is it?
It's very warm.
Hey, thanks for coming, everyone.
Glad to see you again.
My name's Ian Crossland.
Follow me at iancrossland.net.
Love you.
Thanks for coming.
Bye.
lydia smith
I also have a Luke shirt that says, Make 1984 Fiction Again, which I love wearing in public.
I feel like I get a lot of side-eye about it, but no one's really talked to me about it yet, so I'm still waiting.
I keep trying.
You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sarah Patchlitz.
Timothy?
ian crossland
I will.
lydia smith
Yeah, thank you.
unidentified
We'll see you all over in the members-only segment at teamcast.com.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
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