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July 22, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - COVID Lockdowns Are Returning Due To Delta Breakthrough Cases w/Kenny Xu
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ian crossland
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kenny xu
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Oh man, it's just one of those days.
YouTube wasn't letting us create the stream for some reason, and so we had to keep trying to recreate it, so you gotta put a title, and you gotta put the description, and do all this work, and then we're like, okay, go, and then YouTube goes, deleted, no, and then we're like, uh, okay, refresh, try again, and then the same thing happens, and I'm just like, oh, jeez, dude.
Oh, man.
Well, it's a crazy, crazy time out there, man.
We're hearing some restaurants in LA are being forced to shut down because some of their fully vaccinated staff members have contracted breakthrough cases of COVID.
There is a story going around.
Mitch McConnell insinuating the lockdowns will be coming back because enough people are not getting vaccinated.
And at the same time, for some reason, they're letting people just walk through the border.
In a viral video, you literally just see illegal immigrants escorted through the border with CBP standing there, you know, waving.
Come on in!
It's amazing.
They're saying over 300 plus either people or groups.
I'm not sure if they're saying groups.
The local journalist said the group was seen coming through over 300 plus seen earlier today.
So maybe he means people, but I mean, they're just...
Welcoming people in at a time when there's a 900% surge in COVID cases among the illegal immigrants that are coming through the border.
So if they're saying that lockdowns are looming because of the rise in these cases, and then they're letting in tons of people who have COVID, either they're really, really dumb or intentionally bringing about, yeah.
COVID lockdowns.
But we'll get into that.
And we're also going to talk a bit about critical race theory, because there was some error.
I guess apparently the Biden administration was pushing some anti-whiteness and then got questioned on it.
And they were like, yeah, no, we should not have done that.
And so now they're walking things back.
And we're going to be talking about this with Kenny Hsu, who is the author of An Inconvenient Minority and Presumably a Self-Described Inconvenient Minority.
Is that a fair assessment?
kenny xu
Perfectly fair.
tim pool
All right.
Um, yeah, do you want to just give a quick introduction to who you are what you do?
kenny xu
Yeah Yeah, so I am the author of the new book an inconvenient minority the attack on Asian American excellence and the fight for meritocracy I talked about this value about of meritocracy that our culture is increasingly losing because it increasingly wants to Treat people on the basis of their race and not on the basis of the content of their character.
So what do we lose when we penalize Asian American success or just American success?
Because it's not just about Asian Americans.
It's about anybody who works hard, studies hard, tries to be successful.
And what do we do when we penalize the excellent?
Well, I talk about that in my book, An Inconvenient Minority.
tim pool
I think we'll just end up like a bunch of... American society and the global society will just be a bunch of really, really dumb people.
It'll be like idiocracy.
And I'm not even joking, right?
You take away meritocracy, and people earn things not based on merit, but based on identity.
It's like, what are they doing?
It's like sorting chickens, you know what I mean?
Like, oh, these ones gotta go over there, and these ones gotta go over there, and it's just like... How does that help humanity in any way?
ian crossland
Yeah, absolutely.
You want to watch a very hapless and boring sports game.
Get some of the most mediocre people and make them start.
tim pool
It's like that South Park episode, remember?
Sarcastable?
Where the kids were playing with balloons or whatever and they were wearing bras and stuff like that.
So we'll get into this stuff.
We got Ian sitting here wearing a weird shirt.
ian crossland
Thank you, Tim!
I'm glad you approve.
This is very interesting because a lot of excellence, when you put people into a meritocracy, falls along, I think, the Pareto distribution.
And Jordan Peterson was talking about this, that you have very, very few people at the very top.
And you can see this throughout almost all of human culture.
And the only place where it seems to fail is money, because money gets passed down.
So you get these people that are born into extreme amounts of wealth.
And so there's a bit of a...
Merit meritocracy imbalance when it comes to wealth.
kenny xu
Yeah, I mean that's totally true I mean and you know, it's funny because our elite right now People are fighting over these scarce elite prestigious positions at places like Harvard University and and now you know people are a lot of these ambitious people and feel like they have to be a part of some victim category in order for them to have a shot at a place like Harvard or a shot at a place like a prestigious arts fellowship or you know a Guggenheim or something like that.
And it's funny because you see this and now you have one out of six people in Gen Z, one out of six Generation Zers Think that they are LGBTQ plus, um, which is an interesting thing if you think about it, because, you know, we know that biologically speaking, um, that is much higher than the ratio of people biologically who would be LGBTQ plus.
tim pool
So you're saying there's like a social component.
kenny xu
So there's a social component.
There's a reason why people tend to identify in that direction.
People actually want to identify now as victim categories because it does give them these unearned privileges.
tim pool
I think a lot of people have pointed it out, too.
Just claim underprivileged status.
I think it was Brown University that allowed people to identify as a minority, if they so choose.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, we'll get into all of that.
We got Lydia Preston-Buttons.
lydia smith
I am in the corner.
I'm sorry my cool shirt can't compete with Ian's cool shirt.
I'm a little bit jealous.
And I just wanted to say that Abigail Schreier talks about the social component of, like, making this a cool thing, and especially among young women, it's a huge problem.
It's an issue.
tim pool
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ian crossland
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We've got some, I believe we got the D&D people coming out, so we're gonna be doing a Dungeons & Dragons-style show that is, Tracking politics and so we create these campaigns that are
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see what choices would they make and this is where we really learn about people
You see is Ian truly an authoritarian or is he actually a kind-hearted hippie? I'm gonna play a neutral half-orc
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ian crossland
I have chosen.
tim pool
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Let's jump into this first story and just talk about what's been going on with these lockdowns.
L.A.
restaurants are forced to close amid rise in COVID-19 cases as California coronavirus hospitalizations hit highest point since March.
The Daily Mail reports some L.A.
restaurants that have prevailed through the pandemic lockdowns are now closing their doors as cases rise, mainly due to the Indian Delta COVID variant.
It comes as they all see an increase in cases, and California has seen infections rise to 5,063 per day, or a 160% increase from 1,900... Wait, what is this?
Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
From 1,946 two weeks ago.
Bottega Louie and The Village Idiot have posted on their Instagram pages about closing.
The Village Idiot said it closed because a fully vaccinated staff member was diagnosed with the virus.
At least seven counties in California.
Making up more than half of the state's residents are urging residents to wear masks indoors.
California's hospitalizations due to COVID-19 have more than doubled in the last month, according to the LA Times.
Now, you may have heard LA, they're doing mandatory masks indoors.
Las Vegas is.
We get this.
On Tuesday, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot suggested she may make masks mandatory, like LA, as cases increase 164% in a month, from 34 per day to 90 per day.
And they go on to say they're blaming this on Delta, but let me highlight something else.
Mitch McConnell warns there could be lockdowns if Americans don't get vaccinated as the Delta variant continues to wreak havoc.
I'm just going to come out and say, man, it is going to be incredibly difficult to convince people that they should get the vaccine if we're hearing at the same time they're planning lockdowns regardless of the vaccine.
So whenever we talk about this stuff, you know what we say?
Go talk to your own doctor.
You know what's really crazy, though?
We're watching all this stuff happen.
There's a lot of stuff we'll get into in a minute, too, especially with like the economy, you know, Joe Biden's town hall.
For some reason, it has now become, I guess, on the left, Anti-vaxxer to say, talk to a doctor about what's right for you.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, so there was a post by Casey Neistat.
Cool dude.
Big fan, right?
I've known him for a while.
He's a cool dude.
And he just put, get vaccinated.
And I said, no, talk to your doctor, okay?
He's like, don't be so absolute.
Yes, you'll probably end up being advised to get a vaccine.
I'm not saying don't get vaccinated.
I'm saying talk to a doctor.
A lot of people say, like, oh, my doctor's not smart, or I don't trust my doctor.
It's like, OK, get a better doctor.
If I invited a plumber to my house, and I was like, my toilet's clogged, and he was like, I recommend smashing it with a sledgehammer, I'd be like, bro, are you a plumber or not?
I'm going to find a plumber who's going to be like, I will fix your toilet.
You know what I mean?
So anyway, look, I said, go to a doctor.
Ask them, you know, just five minutes, not even just, hello, doc, what do you think?
You know, here's my age, here's my history.
The doctor says, well, here's what I think.
But for some reason, I am getting attacked by a ton of people who are like, that's anti-vaxxer.
They're like, why be so dumb?
It's actually against the rules on YouTube to tell people not to go to a doctor.
This is the point we're at right now, where regardless of the news, regardless of what's going on with lockdowns, you have, I guess, vaccine zealotry.
Of like, just let the strange man come to your door, knock on your door, and give you a vaccine.
It's like, well yeah, but you know, if they do, call your doctor and say, what do you think?
Apparently that's bad now, I guess?
That's where we're at?
kenny xu
Wow.
You know, it's, it's, it's crazy because you have these, the government imposed lockdowns, right?
And they, and they said, um, we are doing this for your, your benefit, your safety, but then they're taking away all of control.
You know, they're taking away your freedom to be able to, um, you know, go where you want and do these kinds of things based on this virus.
And they're basically taking away your own ability to, to, to accurately judge for yourself.
You know, what the best thing is that works for you.
tim pool
It's almost like, you know, I don't even know what to say.
I really don't.
I was genuinely surprised because people responded to me and they were like, you're so dumb.
Like, I get inundated with these tweets where they're like, you're dumb.
And they're like, the doc will just tell you the vaccine.
And I'm like, so what's the problem?
Like, seriously, here's what bothers me, right?
We have the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
All right.
And they recently, like, added more numbers to it, and there's, like, a .0036— I think it's .0036.
I don't get the numbers wrong.
YouTube will get mad at me.
But it's, like, a very, very, very low amount of reported deaths from—in VAERS.
And, okay, so here's what I'm thinking.
I'm like, okay, what if we could reduce those numbers by making sure that people talk to a doctor before they just went out to one of these, you know, centers or before they decided to get vaccinated?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because let's say there's somebody who would normally have a counterindication or an allergy, and you've got all the celebrities in the world, you've got people like Casey Neistat, and they're telling people to just go do it.
And Casey's response to me was that he went to a parking lot, waited 45 minutes, stuck his arm out the window, and then they said, carry on, good sir.
And I'm like, would you talk to a doctor first?
Even at these places, they want you to fill out the form to make sure you don't have any allergies or anything like that.
If we could get people to simply be like, hey, here's my history.
And then the doc said in that rare, rare instance, oh, hey, wait, what's that?
You've got a, you've got a glycol allergy or something like that.
Well, I'm going to go and say, don't do it.
Maybe we could reduce VAERS and reduce actual harm and vaccine hesitancy.
And then maybe then we could actually solve this problem.
But you know what, man?
The entire time we've been going through this COVID thing, we're like chickens running around with our heads cut off.
ian crossland
That's the thing.
What we need to avoid is panic.
That is the number one problem.
And I think we talked about this in March of 2020, Tim, you and I. The real danger that we face as a society is panic.
If we do this right, and we do it safely, things should be at least better, I would imagine.
Or the best they can be.
tim pool
Bro, I don't even know anymore.
Alright, look, there's a video of illegal immigrants being just like walked through the southern border.
40 Border Patrol agents this year caught COVID.
A 900% increase in COVID cases among illegal immigrants.
And I'm just sitting here like, bro, I don't... I'm trying... Look, the people who watch this show are not dumb people.
They're often correcting us.
They're like, Tim, this is what you got wrong.
You get emails all the time.
And I'm like, oh, that's a good point.
How am I supposed to be, like, this voice of reason when I'm like, we really gotta, you know, everyone's gotta pitch in, go to your doctor, make sure you find out what's right for you and if you can't get that vaccine.
And then they're like, but Tim, they're just opening the security gates and walking people through that are sick.
And I'm like...
ian crossland
I don't know what to tell you, dude.
tim pool
Take care of your own health.
That's first and foremost.
You know, what's really funny is I think I figured out exactly why they're mad about the talk to your doctor thing.
Because it's like deontology versus utilitarianism, which I reference every so often.
And it's the collective left are very much like, for the collective good, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Whereas deontology is kind of broad, but the general idea is, you know, each action is its own action, right?
Don't take immoral actions against an individual.
It's not so much about the outcome, it's about the action you take.
So my attitude is kind of like, I wouldn't want to sacrifice anybody to any kind of risk factor.
But I would also rather I would I also recognize like okay, there may be risks, you know what I mean?
So how about we just make sure everyone is as informed as possible. So I say each individual
Don't get your advice from people like me You find a good doctor who knows a lot about this
You ask him specific questions to make sure that everything you're concerned about with your health is covered.
And then if they say, you know, here's what you've got to do, you take their advice.
If they prescribe you something, you say, okay, I do it all the time.
But I think the left gets mad because they're utilitarian.
They don't want individuals to be taken care of, I guess.
They don't focus on the act against the individual.
They don't care.
They want the hard numbers for the large group and the percentages of people who get shuffled under or left behind they just don't care about.
kenny xu
Well, that's a reasonable way, the way that you put it.
But the funny thing about what you just said, and then also what you said earlier about the panic about all of these lockdowns is that, and the fact that they're now closing these restaurant stores in California, you know, because somebody got the Delta variant of COVID, is that we already knew Based on the vaccine people's own data that you could still get COVID from the vaccine and then you know the COVID may be less effective but you could still die.
tim pool
The vaccine may be less effective.
kenny xu
The vaccine may be less effective so you know what you know you so somebody you know got hurt From COVID, from the Delta variant.
But that's still within the realm of possible outcomes.
It's still an entirely reasonable outcome as to what happened.
And you shouldn't make a completely panicked move because of that.
tim pool
What they're saying now is that... Well, for one, they're saying almost all of the cases and deaths are among people who are not vaccinated.
And we're still seeing a lot of stories about people who are getting it and are vaccinated.
But, you know, I always try to tell people Be careful about what the media highlights, you know what I mean?
It's the scaling problem, right?
Because there's so much media and there's so many people, of course if you give out 360 million doses or something like that, 336, you're going to get a large amount of adverse reactions.
Relatively large, you know, depending on what your perspective is.
And then news outlets are going to start snatching that up and writing about every single possible one.
So that's why I'm like, just talk to your doctor, because they might be like, look at this chart.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Right.
It's kind of on the media not to panic society because these shutdowns were really only because we didn't want to overload the hospitals in the beginning.
And it was only going to be 15 days just to make sure we could handle this mass, what we thought would be a mass influx of patients, which turned out I think, as far as I know, we never really had that mass, you know, hospital overrun that we thought we would.
tim pool
Some places.
Some places.
There are videos of, like, people who go around.
They were going around during the height of the pandemic and finding empty hospitals.
But I think people misunderstood that it was, like, key areas were absolutely overloaded.
Now, as for, you know, New York, we know that there were some patient issues at hospitals in New York.
And so Cuomo decided he would just murder people instead of actually utilizing the Mercy or the Javits Center.
So he was warned, if you put sick people in nursing homes, you'll kill all these old people, and he was like, whatever.
Because if you were to put them in the Mercy or the Javits Center, which were, I think the Mercy had like one bed used, and the Javits was at 30%.
So we did set up this great, amazing center, like, we're really worried about this, and he was like, meh.
ian crossland
Did you ever find out why he didn't use the hospitals?
tim pool
I mean, in my opinion, it's because it would have made Trump look really good.
But here's what they're saying.
They're saying right now, because people didn't get vaccinated, and I'm not entirely sure if this makes sense, but this is what they're saying.
Because people didn't get vaccinated, then transmissibility was still running rampant among people who were not vaccinated, which resulted in mutations.
which resulted in a more resistant vaccine resistant strain which somewhat reduces the efficacy of these vaccines and now you're getting fully vaccinated people who are getting sick with delta because i think they said it was like 88 but the thing i i doesn't quite make sense um i'm not i'm not quite sure that actually makes sense because youtube actually has a rule That you cannot say the vaccine prevents COVID.
That's actually in YouTube's rulebook.
So I'm like, well, if the vaccine was never 100%, then people could still get COVID.
It could still mutate and still become vaccine resistant.
I'm not sure.
You know what I mean?
You know what?
Look, I can't speak to the science on this one for sure.
We had Dr. Chris Martinson on the show.
He made his case in the Members Only podcast.
But we did pull up Scientific journals like studies that contradicted even what he was saying.
And I'm like, you know, people are going to pick and choose what they trust and what they want to believe.
Plus you've got the censorship of communist YouTube to deal with.
I honestly have no idea.
That's why I'm like, don't, don't come to me for advice, but I can't say one thing when you're ushering people through the border, the Biden administration and not doing anything about it.
I don't think they're serious at all.
I really don't think they care.
lydia smith
I am inclined to agree.
And you mentioned earlier about them being utilitarian.
But I'm not sure that you can look at the way that those Texas Democrats left the state with zero masks and who are now going back and spreading COVID among their own people.
And I don't think that you can look at the border and say that they actually truly care about the good of the whole when they're actively promoting policies that make it possible for, what, 900 percent increases in COVID cases at the border?
That's absolute insanity to me.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm sure.
lydia smith
They don't.
tim pool
So when Mitch McConnell's like, we're gonna go back to the way things were in 2020.
It's like, well, I guess so because not like anybody in the government has any idea what's going on.
ian crossland
When we said the 900% increase of border COVID cases, is that like gone from one to nine?
Or is that like?
tim pool
No, it's like, it was like 14 to 190 something or whatever.
Okay.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
And to be fair, to be fair.
That's a good point, Ian.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we did see 188,000 people cross the border this month alone.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Haven't, we've already hit a million this year.
Uh, so far it's only June and by the end of the year, we're going to have 2 million.
That's exciting.
ian crossland
So 180,000, you said cross the border?
188, I think.
And 180 cases out of 188,000 people.
tim pool
I'm not entirely sure if that number is pertaining to all of the people who came through.
ian crossland
Be healthy, friends.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Check this out.
We got this story from TimCast.com.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Okay, we gotta be careful on this one because I don't know if I can read this quote from Joe Biden.
It's against YouTube's rules.
I'm gonna read it anyway and tell you before I do.
Joe Biden, the president, is giving medical misinformation.
If I were to assert what Joe Biden said, YouTube would delete this video as per YouTube's rules.
Joe Biden falsely claims you're not gonna get COVID if you have been vaccinated.
That is not true.
Absolutely not true.
We've already seen breakthrough cases.
People who are vaccinated getting sick.
I think it was...
Was it Bill Maher?
ian crossland
Bill Maher, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he was vaccinated and they cancelled his show.
Now we have restaurants shutting down.
Joe Biden, the President of the United States, is espousing medical misinformation, my friends.
So, for TimCast.com, we say, I guess we put we, we say we now because it's not they.
During a town hall on Wednesday night, President Biden claimed that people who have received vaccines will not get COVID-19 after fully vaccinated White House officials have recently been infected with the virus.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
He said, quote, The various shots that people are getting now cover that.
You're okay.
You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.
That is wrong.
That is wrong.
YouTube.
See?
You heard us.
We're saying Joe Biden is incorrect.
And Joe Biden, the president, and the White House are giving medical misinformation and bad information.
We're doing what you want us to do, YouTube censors.
Yeah, they stopped.
statements come after multiple fully vaccinated Democrat lawmakers and White House officials
have become infected with the virus, beginning with the Texas Democrats who fled their state
to stop legitimate Democratic processes. The Texas Democrats first met with a Pelosi staffer
who became infected. So now I think the latest we saw was like a handful of White House staffers.
I don't think the Texas Democrats are going to give any more updates on how many of their
delegation stopped. Yeah, because it was like 11 percent of their delegation had already
become, you know, covid positive. And now, you know, Joe Biden goes on CNN and he gives
this bunk information.
I'm wondering if YouTube is going to ban Biden over this, you know?
ian crossland
They Twitter banned Trump.
I mean, Trump was relentless.
And I don't know how much, how many tweets did he put out that were wrong?
tim pool
Well, wrong about what?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Just misinformation, I guess, would you say?
Countless, countless, 10, 20, 100.
I mean, I don't know.
I wasn't following.
tim pool
You know, I'll tell you this.
You look at Twitter and you look at Joe Biden, you look at Trump, and it's just like static.
It's like looking at an old TV.
ian crossland
I if you guys are out there listening, don't ban him for this.
Don't ban Joe Biden for saying this thing.
I mean, he acknowledged that maybe it's wrong.
tim pool
Maybe put a thing on there that how much how long until like, you know, Fauci comes out and actually says, oh, actually, you know, CDC guy like Joe Biden was right the whole time.
Apparently he's not.
Don't ban us.
Joe Biden is wrong.
It's the weirdest thing.
So there was a study from Oxford talking about a particular medication, I won't say because YouTube will ban us.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, it's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah, and I emailed Google, like, in order to talk about this, do I have to say that Oxford is wrong and the science is wrong?
And they were like, just make sure you provide adequate context.
And I'm like, I don't believe you.
Like, the rules explicitly say that you can't say there are certain treatments for COVID, but Oxford came out with a study saying they may, they may, may?
And I'm like, I can't even talk about that.
So I love, I love the sheer absurdity that is YouTube.
Back when all of this first started, I did a video about it.
It was when everything was going crazy in Wuhan and it wasn't spreading anywhere else.
And YouTube actually demonetized that.
And they told me, no, you can't talk about this.
And I was like, it's news.
You know what I mean?
It's really weird.
And then, like, a couple weeks later, they're like, OK, actually, yeah, you can't talk about it.
And I was like, OK... So this is the problem with censorship that these big tech platforms do.
By choosing, you know, to ban certain information, it's very likely, because they're not experts, soon, that information will actually turn out to be correct or important, and then they've banned it, and we've got to go back and change it?
Yeah, that's where we're at with Communist America and big tech and YouTube, so...
I don't know.
ian crossland
The information war is upon us?
I used to think that was more of a more of a an allegory or is that the right word for it?
lydia smith
I would say it sounded like hyperbole when Alex Jones was first talking about it, but I think it's a good assessment that it is 100% an information war, that fifth generational warfare we're seeing now.
ian crossland
I love being able to have a debate about an idea where one person has bad information and the other person is able to correct them and you can see the process because then other people that have the bad information also get to be part of that process.
So that's why I'm turned off by censoring things that are wrong.
tim pool
I want to make sure I'm being fair to Joe Biden because it may not be that he's wrong.
It may just be that he doesn't know how to put words together.
ian crossland
That is true.
tim pool
So in another story, I don't know if you guys watched The Town Hall.
This is, uh, from the Daily Mail.
They say, quote, the experts say we know that this virus is in fact, uh, um, uh, it's going to be, or excuse me, Biden loses his thoughts on vaccines, flubs answer on his foreign policy work, and falsely tells all town hall you won't get COVID if you have the shot.
That is incorrect.
lydia smith
Can't watch.
tim pool
So I, I think the dude just isn't, isn't with it.
You know, I think most people realize that by now.
unidentified
Help me.
kenny xu
Look, I mean, obviously we know, you know, we know what Joe Biden's strengths and weaknesses, particularly weaknesses are right now at this advanced age stage of his presidency.
I mean, I was always of the belief that Kamala Harris is really running a lot of the show on Joe Biden, especially with regards to his racial policy, his equity policy, everything like that.
I mean, say what you want about Joe Biden being ineffective, but all that does is that makes Kamala Harris and her agenda even more effective.
tim pool
Well, so, so, you know, your book is about meritocracy.
kenny xu
Yeah.
tim pool
And I don't even, we're sitting here like we know that you have this book and talking about stuff, and I can only assume you probably don't like Joe Biden, but I don't know.
I mean, maybe you love the guy, but you hate critical race theory.
kenny xu
Wow.
I mean, I, look, Joe Biden, here's the thing.
He, he did something.
He, he was, he was the candidate that was able, he was the only candidate the Democrats could run that was able to win back the Trump voters.
That was able to win back some of the Trump voters.
That, that's, that, that's what I think about Joe Biden.
tim pool
And he did, isn't it crazy?
Trump lost white men.
kenny xu
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
kenny xu
You know, Trump won more Hispanics, more Asians, More black people than he did in 2016.
You know, this supposed racist, everything like that, won all of these groups more effectively.
The only place that the polls, the exit polls show he lost was white men.
unidentified
Joe Biden, I guess.
ian crossland
Joe Biden, what do you think about regarding meritocracy as you've written a book on it and and the fact that we have a
Government or at least the top of our government the president where we vote people in based on popularity not
necessarily merit And so I want to know what there's merit in there, isn't
there not necessarily You can have some dumb idiot that everyone loves that becomes president and doesn't have any idea what they're doing because he's the most popular.
kenny xu
Well, the thing is, that's what some people think about Trump.
They think he's just a dumb idiot, but I think he has genuine merit.
He is probably the most effective marketing salesperson that we have, you know, that I've ever seen in my lifetime on the campaign trail.
tim pool
You're saying that he is the greatest president of all time?
unidentified
I'm saying he's the greatest marketing strategist of all time.
ian crossland
Do you think there's something we could do better with our government so that we could get more merit at the top?
kenny xu
Well, you know, they... Here's the thing about our political system, and this correlates kind of with meritocracy.
I take different definitions of merit.
So I don't think that the person who wins the president should be the person with the most degrees, or the person who's supposedly done the most for our country, or whatever.
The person has to really connect with the people.
And I think that our system, our political system, flawed as it is, still gives the people the ability To to make judgments on themselves, you know, to choose the president.
And I think that that that's worth preserving.
ian crossland
So you think that the president's main job is to connect with the people, not so much to be the best or at any one thing.
unidentified
Right.
kenny xu
I mean, I mean, the president originally functioned.
He has a cabinet and that's where he brings in all of the best people and everything like that.
That's his choice.
But he has to be able to connect.
He's the executive.
Right.
The executive isn't necessarily the smartest person in the room.
The executive is a person who can connect all of the dots.
And form it into a larger vision.
That's what Trump did probably most effectively.
He was able to create that vision, Make America Great Again, Keep America Great, 2016, that resonated with a segment of the populace that the Republican Party had historically not been able to resonate with.
Well, I think that is meritorious.
That's very meritorious.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And the one problem was that, you know, merit can go into a bunch of different directions.
Was Trump able to rally people and win an election?
Yep.
Does it show merit?
Of course.
Less, you know, Hillary Clinton had less.
She lost.
However, when it came to actually administrating, Trump didn't have it.
And that's why he ended up, for a variety of reasons I'll say, one of the reasons, He ended up not winning a re-election, though we'll see what happens next once people realize that Biden was actually the worst choice.
But one of the problems was the people he surrounded himself with.
Mark Milley, for instance.
This is a guy that Trump should have gotten rid of a long time ago.
Dr. Fauci.
Trump didn't have... he should have fired these people.
ian crossland
John Bolton.
tim pool
Oh man, he hired the guy!
kenny xu
He still showed his political neophyte instincts when he chose Rex Tillerson as his Secretary of State.
I mean, they obviously could not connect from the very start.
He started to be a little better towards the end in terms of his administrative picks.
But you could tell at the very beginning he was too hewn to the Republican Party and their instincts instead of being able to go with what his vision was.
And that harmed him because he only has four years.
You only have four years as president.
That's nothing.
That's no time at all.
Xi over here does not have four years.
Xi Jinping does not have four years.
He has 30 years to do whatever he wants and remake China in his own vision.
tim pool
Is that how long it lasts?
30 years?
kenny xu
No, I mean, until you get deposed, or you die, or you retire.
ian crossland
Oh, they get elected for life?
kenny xu
You don't get elected for life, but you can extend your supposed constitutional authority however long you really want to.
ian crossland
Are they appointed by the party?
kenny xu
They are... yes.
ian crossland
And it's like a group of people at the top of the party decide?
kenny xu
Uh-huh.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's a totally different system in China than it is in the U.S.
tim pool
We do have some good news, though.
I mean, it's kind of good news.
It's actually kind of bad news.
But there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
You know, a door closes and a window opens.
We got the story from TimCast.com.
White House spins.
Department of Education blames random error for document promoting critical race theory this fall.
And we also saw Jen Psaki challenged on this.
So the original story was that the Biden administration's guidelines for schools reopening this fall is backing a radical group's literature that promotes anti-racism training in public classrooms across the country.
Now we got to break down that word anti-racism.
Because if you are unlearned, you may just assume these code words, these dog whistles, just to mean what it means on the surface.
No, anti-racism, according to Ibram X. Kendi, is racial discrimination.
Quite literally.
You think it's anti-racism, like people aren't going to be racist?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
He wants them to discriminate on the basis of race.
What he's saying is that, like... Let's put it this way.
If racism is plus one, and not being racist is zero, anti-racism is negative one.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
It is a value in mirror image to racism that serves the same function, but for a somewhat different ideology.
That being, what he claims is, if we're anti-racist, meaning we actually implement the exact same policies of the past, but we do it, it'll be better this time!
And that just, as far as I'm concerned, it's just literally racism.
So the good news, I suppose, is that the Biden admin has backtracked after sparking a major backlash on social media regarding critical race theory, blaming a random error for a government guy that promoted a far-left group and their agenda.
We have this from the Daily Mail.
Jenteki claims it was an error to promote the group that urges teachers to disrupt whiteness and oppression after Republicans accused the Biden admin of flip-flopping.
Now, this is good news.
Apparently the Democrats are starting to get scared of wokeness.
There was a story in Axios.
We saw the victory of Eric Adams in New York City.
They're worried they're going to lose the midterms because get well, go broke.
unidentified
Yeah.
kenny xu
Yeah, I mean, it's funny you bring up Eric Adams, because he was, in New York City, you would think, oh, there were a couple of really woke candidates.
Maya Wiley was a big woke candidate in New York City.
And you would think, oh, the black Americans and Hispanic Americans would vote for the woke candidate.
They didn't.
They voted for the candidate Eric Adams, who promised more police, not less police.
He promised public safety.
He said, I'm gonna make crime my number one issue.
I'm gonna make education my second biggest issue because the New York public system is so poor and it's not because of funding.
It's not because of what the teachers unions say, which is, oh, we need more resources.
Did you know that New York City funds students $28,000 a year.
They spend $28,000 a year per student, which is the highest in the nation.
dollars a year. They spend $28,000 a year per student, which is the highest in the nation.
So it's not about funding, but Eric Adams said, hey, look, we need to restore the culture of
So they actually voted for, in my opinion, the candidate that represented, you know, the least excesses of wokeness, fortunately.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I'm not surprised.
I mean, we saw what happened in South Texas.
We saw what happened in Miami.
Now, of course, that was likely, you know, Hispanic individuals with experience with communism and Marxism.
But the other day, we had Ricardo and Jose Llamasan.
And Jose, he's an older gentleman.
He actually was in the anti-Fidel Castro underground in Cuba.
And he said, he said some scary stuff.
He said that if Black Lives Matter gets real power, they're gonna kill people.
He said that these people are Marxist, they're enemies from within, they're scary, and I'm like, man, this is a guy who had to flee Cuba because of what happened.
Now that is freaky.
The difference between Cuba and the United States, however, is that we got several hundred million people here.
Right now we got, what, like 170 or so million active voters.
So these are a lot of people that I don't think would allow the, as you described it, the excesses of wokeism to become too pervasive.
Now, what does it mean to be too pervasive?
Well, let's be fair.
It's pervasive.
It's in institutions.
It's in video games.
But I think people are starting to recoil from this.
That's why Joe Biden, the administration, had to backtrack.
They're getting worried.
I'm hoping that's the case.
I'm hoping they realize they are poisoning their party with this stuff.
I hope they're realizing they will lose elections unless they get away from this.
But I also have to add, they're never getting my vote back anyway.
They've crossed the Rubicon, as it were.
They went nuts.
Like, hardcore insane.
And now they want to come back and be like, oh, yeah, nice try, dude.
I'm not going to play that game with these people.
You look at New York, you look at what people wanted.
They wanted the ex-cop.
Eric Adams, right?
kenny xu
And you know, it's it's funny because during the campaign, if you remember Biden during 2020 campaign, Biden was pressured to say defund the police and he did not say defund the police.
And I'm convinced that if he went and crossed that line and he said, yeah, we're going to go defund the police.
I'm convinced that, you know, even more Trump voters, you know, even even, you know, the voters that he supposedly won back from Trump would have stayed with Trump.
tim pool
Yeah, it would be over.
kenny xu
Right, right, right.
But now, unfortunately, you can see, you can see, of course, promises were made, promises were not kept.
Biden, you know, he's growing old.
He's growing senile.
He's letting Kamala Harris take over more of his administration.
ian crossland
What promises were not kept?
kenny xu
Well, this idea of Biden saying that he claims to be the unifier, the unifying candidate, I will unify America.
Instead, he's pushing divisive race ideology.
tim pool
It's not even that.
He basically was talking about the divide in this country and how bad it is.
First of all, he launched his campaign on a lie, Charlottesville, the very fine people hoax.
He just absolutely rammed that lie on people's throat because he's a scumbag.
And now he says, you know, we need to unify, you know, we need to come together.
And it's like, dude just went on and gave a speech where he said the Republicans' voting legislation is the greatest threat since the Civil War.
You want to talk about bombastic and divisive language?
Sure, we can talk about critical race theory.
How about the President of the United States coming up and saying the Republican agenda is a bigger threat than the Confederacy?
That's what he literally said.
Dude's lost his mind.
ian crossland
Yeah.
The central banking system is more of a threat.
Fiat currency, the $28 trillion in national debt, the runaway inflation.
He's claiming it's not runaway.
What was his exact words?
Any of you guys remember off the top of your head?
He was like, it's OK.
It's just inflation.
It's going to get back to normal.
lydia smith
He said something like, this will not increase inflation.
He said that, I think, three times in a row because he's super with it, as we all know.
But I was like, There's no way that you can look at this and say that inflation is not coming.
In fact, Janet Yellen has even said, yeah, we expect some form of inflation.
tim pool
Look, we can survive inflation.
We can make it past our milk costing more money.
And that, it sucks.
I mean, he's got no solutions.
He's mocking these business owners.
I believe he's essentially mocking them.
But I'll tell you, we can get through that and we can argue about it.
Combine that.
Combine a massive escalation in the cost of food with Joe Biden saying the Republican agenda is the greatest threat since the Civil War.
This guy is flicking matches at a powder keg.
ian crossland
We talked about last night with Jose Lamas about the Cuban revolution, how Castro betrayed the revolution and essentially didn't install their democracy.
And I asked him, what could we have done differently?
Or what could they have done differently in 1960 that would have prevented it?
He said not to be more patient, not to revolt against Batista.
Because what they thought was Batista was running for election again, and they thought it was going to be rigged.
So they were like, they had a preemptive revolution to get this guy out of office before he could So this I could see something like that happening in this country with all this divisiveness, people thinking there's election issues, that people would act impatiently.
And I think it's it's up to us to stay, you know, calm, even if the system seems flawed, that we, you know, remain and work within the system.
tim pool
You see, you see Joe Biden said the other day as well that he wants to, he's working to ban any weapon with the ability to take multiple rounds.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
Wow.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
He basically, let's be real.
He was not very articulate, but he wanted to say weapons that can take multiple rounds, like 20, 30, 40, 50, 120.
You don't need them.
And I'm working hard to ban them.
And now I know a lot of people on the left are going to try and play this game.
I should, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to walk that back.
I know a lot of the establishment Democrats because leftists actually like guns.
are gonna play this game where they're like, oh, he didn't mean banning every gun.
Oh, he meant this.
I don't care what you think he meant, because y'all can't read his mind.
He said it.
So if you're talking about a weapon that can take a detachable magazine,
then you can have a variety of magazines of sizes.
That's what he's talking about.
The Democrats have long said they wanted to ban semi-automatic weapons.
Why should I believe Biden meant something else?
So I bring that up, because one of the other things
that Jose mentioned about Cuba was that Fidel Castro came out and said
the famous question, guns, for what?
And everyone was like, yeah, for what?
And then they threw all their guns into a pile, and then the communists took over,
and they got to live under a boot for the next several generations.
Yeah.
kenny xu
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
kenny xu
It's crazy.
I mean, you know, the funny thing is, you know, you go to China and China, of course, the communist party, um, has a, has a huge monopoly over the arms, over arms and everything like that.
And not only do they have a monopoly of arms, they have increased their monopoly to surveillance.
And now they can surveil you, you know, for, for whatever thing.
So now they control the arms and they control, you know, your actions that can control your thoughts.
You know, and they can incentivize you based on your thoughts.
This is the whole idea of like a social currency.
They have a social currency system in China now.
And it's like, this is the direction that we are progressing as a country.
And people think, oh, it's just guns.
It's not a big deal.
You know, we just, you know, that kind of thing.
That's what progressives think.
But you realize that guns is the linchpin.
It's the physical linchpin that is able to defend all of the rest of the rights that we hold so dear.
tim pool
This is what these establishment dimes don't understand, right?
These establishment voters, these default libs.
They're like, you know, Joe Biden says, you need an F-15 and nukes to go up against the government.
It's not true.
There's a reason why we don't have, to a certain degree, jackboot Biden thugs kicking doors in and dragging people out by their hair, especially over COVID and lockdowns.
But you do see things like that in Australia and New Zealand and Canada and the UK.
There's a reason why it's a little better here.
It's not perfect.
We absolutely do have cops will kick your door in and then, you know, arrest you or just shoot you.
But the thing is, The fact that so many Americans have guns makes it extremely difficult to violate human rights.
Because you never know if you're going to encounter someone who's going to be able to defend themselves.
It equalizes a little bit of the power between the government and the individual so that they have to go through the proper motions.
It's not hard for a government to oppress you using bureaucracy.
It's actually very easy.
However, gun ownership protects you.
A little bit.
And in the long run, if done properly, can protect a nation forever.
So long as you don't end up with people saying the stupid question, guns for what?
Which is what they're doing over and over and over.
What do you need a gun for?
What do you need a gun for?
And I'm like, none of your business.
Who cares?
I don't need to give you an answer.
lydia smith
I think the Founding Fathers kind of put the Second Amendment into place because they expected the government to grow and grow and grow, as governments do, like they would talk about.
We're not a bunch of men governed by angels.
We're men governed by men.
They understood the shortcomings.
They were like, okay, the government's going to grow.
We need to kind of put citizens on a slightly more even playing field.
And that was unique.
Like, you didn't see that in Cuba when this was going on.
You didn't see that in Mao's China.
This is something that we need to pay attention to.
This is not something that we can afford to lose.
tim pool
So, I don't want to say this is pessimistic.
A lot of people seem to think that when I talk about escalation in a conflict, it's pessimism, and I'm like, don't take it to a dark place.
It's realism.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Take a look at this story from the Daily Mail.
Exclusive.
Do you want to pay $50 for a hamburger, Joe?
Furious restaurant owners vent at Biden for telling them to raise wages, what they say will lead to more inflation and drive them all out of business.
This story, what does it have to do with what I just said?
Food costs are typically the number one indicator of when a revolution happens or some kind of major revolt.
So if Joe Biden and the White House administration are giving everybody $15-$16 an hour not to work, Restaurants are shutting down.
Taco Bell, food shortage.
Wendy's, I think.
Chicken food is a shortage on chicken.
And I think there may be on beef.
There's a labor shortage across the board because of the unemployment.
Food costs go up.
So this guy asked Joe Biden, you know, hey, what do we do?
We can't hire people.
And he goes, that's your problem.
Pay more.
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
So think about, and we've mentioned this a lot, but think about, if someone's getting $16 an hour to not work, why would they accept $16 an hour to work?
You're basically offering them $0 for 40 hours a week.
kenny xu
Right, right.
And I had a friend, you know, in Virginia, my old friend, where he works as a bartender, and he comes back to me, and we were just catching up, and I'm like, So how's it going at work?
And he's like, it's great.
I'm like the only bartender here.
I'm getting all the tips.
I'm like, well, that's great for you.
But what happened to all the rest of them?
And he said, well, guess what?
They just never came back.
Just never came back.
And the owner is completely relying upon me to do all of the bartending.
ian crossland
That's a bad sign for a restaurant.
I've been in that position before the restaurant went out of business.
tim pool
Yeah.
And that's where we're headed.
So where does it feel like this is all going?
There are these memes.
Man.
It is so hard to live in a functioning society when you have young, idealistic individuals with arrogance but ignorance.
So there's this viral tweet that keeps getting reposted by young people on Reddit because they just don't know what they're talking about.
And it's like this tweet goes, So if we raise the minimum wage to $15, you're mad that everyone's getting paid the same as you?
Then go to your boss and tell them you want to raise, or you can go work an easier job for more money.
And if you can't figure that out, you need to reassess your critical thinking skills.
And I just like, facepalm so hard I nearly break my nose, because I'm like, first of all, whoever said fast food was an easier job than working where you were at?
You know what I mean?
The assumption that the job's gonna be easier, no, it's probably worse, it's a low-skilled job.
But anyway, regardless, if you go to your boss and say, hey, I can go get that job for 15 bucks an hour and it's easier, give me more money, okay, then the cost of goods at your business goes up to accommodate the rise in labor costs.
Now, the guy who flips the burgers realizes that he can't get your service anymore because it's too expensive.
It normalizes.
Regardless of what artificial numbers you put in place, it won't change anything other than to drive up inflation.
Inflation can move very, very quickly in the short term, but people's salaries are much harder to move.
And the hardest thing is rent.
And that is, I think, the breaking point for the system.
Rent.
Why?
Rent is locked.
Building management is not.
So let's think about it this way.
This guy says, you gotta pay me more, otherwise I'm gonna go, I'm gonna quit.
And so the guy says, okay, I'll pay you more.
Let's say that guy is a building manager.
He's the, or the superintendent, the guy who makes sure the pipes are working and repairs things.
He's getting paid, you know, he's in New York City, gets paid 50k, whatever, he manages this big building.
Well, now his cheeseburgers cost $30 because they're paying all the employees 20 bucks an hour, 25 bucks an hour to accommodate, to beat in competition the government's free money.
So now he goes to the building owner and says, if you want me to maintain this building, I need a massive raise.
Because if these people are getting $12 an hour, now they're getting $20?
I mean, that's nearly a 50% raise.
So he's like, I want $75,000 a year.
The landlord says, there is no way I can afford to pay you that because I don't make that much in rent from this building.
And then he says, then I will quit.
If he quits, then who maintains the building?
Nobody will.
Do you think the people who are there, who are talking about how the rent is too high, are going to be able to pay to fix the pipes?
What if the pipe bursts in the hallway, which is a communal space?
Who's responsible for it?
So maybe the landlord says, okay, then I'll have to raise rent.
Yes, when the leases are up, because you can't just go to the individuals and say, hey, I'm jacking your rent up.
So that's where there's a hard stop.
The building managers, the maintenance, the repairs will immediately need more money, but the landlord can't get it.
ian crossland
And some states have rent control.
I think California does, where you can only raise the rent like 3% annually.
That's right.
And so what they'll do is they'll try and get you to move out so that they can then re-rent the place for like 10 times or twice the cost.
Literally.
tim pool
The end result of this will be people becoming homeless.
Because either the landlord says, I'm done with the building, I can't afford to pay it, I'm selling it.
ian crossland
Yes, and then you have to move out.
tim pool
If they sell it, they'll- And it goes to Blackrock.
To somebody who says, we can eat these costs.
Or they say, everybody get out.
I don't care.
Or they say, I'll turn it over to you.
They become slumlords.
Unable to afford the short-term inflation hits them, but rent can't change so they can't make that money up that quickly.
ian crossland
I had a place in LA that I was renting and the owner sold it.
And then, so they gave me a notice.
They were like, you have to move out.
We sold it.
So here, we're going to pay you to move out.
They paid me like a month, two months rent or something to move out.
But I had to move out.
Wasn't anticipated.
tim pool
Here's the problem.
Let's say you live in this building and the landlord says, we're going to pay you to move out.
You go up on Craigslist or whatever website you use, Zillow.
And you notice all of a sudden, like you were paying, you know, $2,000 a month for your, for your apartment in New York.
And you got to leave all the apartments now are three grand.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because any listed apartment of course will be raised to accommodate for
maintenance costs.
And then you're out, you're homeless or you move out of the cities, move
somewhere cheaper and then probably encounter the same problem.
Or maybe you just say, I give up.
Give me the free money from the government and I'm going to go live in a van down by the river.
unidentified
Yeah.
kenny xu
And this is so, I mean, this is so interesting because, you know, everybody talks about, oh, it's, it's just inflation.
Jobs are going to increase.
But what happens with inflation is exactly like you say, um, the fixed costs that, not the fixed costs, the costs that are unable to be leased up.
Within a certain period because of contractual obligations tend to fold things tend to go bankrupt and People get homeless.
This is how you cause a lot of social problem with just a very small Small shift in in in the in the economic atmosphere and this is like this is what happened with the Great Recession, right?
I mean with the Great Recession you had a default rate that rose somewhat significantly in the homeownership because people were not able to pay back their mortgages and And because of that small shift in mortgage rates, there were so many financiers who bet on low default rates, and they were not able to get the returns that they want.
That caused a massive gradated shift across the economy that eventually resulted in the Great Recession.
So these little things make big differences.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess long story short.
I think they're doing it on purpose, you know?
If someone came to me and they laid these pieces out in front of me and said, take a look at these puzzle pieces.
What picture do you see?
And I'm like, Joe Biden purposefully tanking the economy to trigger some kind of mass unrest?
I was talking to Allison earlier, and I was like, after seeing the news about them opening up the border gate and just letting people walk through, and the COVID rates are rising among them, 40 Border Patrol agents getting COVID, regardless of whether or not there's a, because we mentioned 188,000, but how many people actually had COVID and how they based on that ratio.
Regardless of that, they're saying without mass vaccination, then we have to lock down.
Okay, but you just let in 188,000 people and you didn't test them or vaccinate them.
So how are we supposed to increase that ratio when you're pumping the numbers back down?
I said, there is no way the Biden administration is so dumb that they're seeing that and simultaneously seeing vaccination rates and going, Oh, this is fine.
This works.
No, I'm sorry, man.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I, as some random individual, know more than they do.
Joe Biden, we can claim, is just sitting there like a Muppet, dumb as a box of rocks, and Kamala's doing it, but he's got a cabinet.
And certainly these people are like, oh, look at that, a million people this year.
How are we supposed to track for that?
How are we supposed to avoid lockdowns and restrictions if they're just opening the gates and letting people come through?
They have to see that, right?
Like, they realize the paradox in what they're asking for.
ian crossland
They unfortunately don't have... They have to see it.
They don't have to understand it or recognize it.
That's the problem with cognitive dissonance.
tim pool
Do you really think that these people in government are like, I don't understand why this is a problem?
ian crossland
I think...
A lot of the people are they know full well the Federal Reserve is out of control and that the economy is going to crash as if it keeps inflating.
So they're just hitting the gas and they're like in behind closed doors.
They're like calculating the losses that we're going to see a lot of people are going to be this a lot of people are going to be that they're just accepting it behind closed doors and just like the Great Depression telling us everything's fine.
tim pool
I think you're right.
To go back to what you were saying about the Great Recession, Kenny, with all the problems it led to, I don't think we've ever escaped the Great Recession.
I think the Titanic hit the iceberg, and it's just a long and slow split.
Because if you look at the money stock, the M1 money stock, you can actually see that everything's very stable in terms of growth until 2008.
It goes up sharply.
And then 2020, it spikes, and they're like, but we changed the way we calculate this.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, see what happened was, because of COVID, they said you can now use your savings accounts like checking accounts, which it put all of a sudden the money and savings accounts into the general money supply, causing a massive spike.
So it looks, I think that big spike we saw is the Titanic splitting.
And now it's going to go down, and Ian, you are correct, I agree with you, because I think what they're doing, I think they know, that's my point, they're watching, they know, but they're the people who are trying to steal as much of the fine china and silverware before the ship goes down.
They're grabbing as much as they can, so imagine being on this boat.
And then you hear a big rumble and you're like, what was that?
And then you see these super rich people just frantically carrying silverware and running full speed towards the lifeboats.
And you're just like, I wonder why they're doing that.
ian crossland
At least we're not being locked in our rooms with the doors welded shut.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, people in cities technically stay at home orders all last year.
Now the threats of more lockdowns.
ian crossland
Regarding bringing meritocracy into the economy, because like I was saying at the beginning of the show, Jordan Peterson mentions, you see it throughout culture, except in economy, because ultimately wealthy people transfer wealth to kids that aren't necessarily intelligent or valuable, but they're super... Or valuable?
Yeah, valuable to society is what I mean.
They're more of a drain than a plus.
But what I think we can do is create a system where everyone can have their own cryptocurrency.
I've talked about this before.
And then you can, if you want to like subscribe to my channel for 10 bucks a month, cool.
But if you want to pay me an Ian coin, I'll give you a 10% discount.
So I generate desire for my token.
And so we've created almost like a meritocratic economy where there's all these different currencies and the valuable ones are the ones that give you the most utility.
kenny xu
Right, right.
unidentified
Maybe.
kenny xu
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think crypto is interesting.
There was a huge crypto revolution in 2017, 2018.
Everybody thought all of their cryptocurrencies were going to go and be great.
But actually, Pareto rule, only one or two of them really ended up skyrocketing.
It was Bitcoin and Ethereum.
tim pool
Yeah, but if you bought Dogecoin back when it came out, man, you got rich.
There's like one dude who's a millionaire now off Dogecoin.
ian crossland
I'm not too worried about the actual dollar value because in a system like that, there would be no central currency that everything is valued at.
They would all have value based on the individual.
kenny xu
Well, I mean, the reason why we have a single currency money economy is to facilitate transactions, just to make it a lot easier.
tim pool
Wouldn't it be easier for the world if everyone had a one-world currency?
kenny xu
Yeah, that sounds like a globalization.
tim pool
Yeah.
Why wouldn't it happen?
Look at Bitcoin.
Bitcoin's used by everybody around the world.
kenny xu
It's true.
tim pool
So, I don't know if Bitcoin will ever be hard currency, but we're certainly moving towards a future where some crypto will be.
And maybe that's kind of the point.
Maybe the Titanic hit that in 2008.
When did Bitcoin come out, Ian?
2008 2009 2009 right wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, so somebody saw it was like
ian crossland
2008?
2009?
tim pool
We need we need I mean look I'm not saying conspiracy I'm saying the crisis happens and this satoshi dude or
whoever whether it's a multiple people or not was like that's a problem
We need sound currency Bitcoin boom so now what happens is
It's just dominoes falling over, man.
We start seeing economic crisis, economic collapse.
The government is full of a bunch of Benny Hill-type stooge cops running around, holding their hats, frantically trying to figure out what's going on.
And it's all melting down.
And then in the end, what happens?
Everybody in the world uses one thing.
Bitcoin.
ian crossland
We're in a position now as the United States where we have the power.
It's kind of like George Washington when he was president.
He had the power.
They wanted him to become a king.
They want the United States to stay the power.
But we have a responsibility, just as Washington did, to give that power away, to step down.
And I think now we're in the position to create a world economy that, with all these different types of currencies that intermingle and intercorrelate, Yeah, you know what, man?
tim pool
I would love for there to be some kind of system, global system, that defends freedom, protects sovereign borders, but still allows us to avoid war and function in a unified manner in a certain sense.
kenny xu
Wait, hold on.
Global system that protects freedom.
How could a system, which is by nature organized and therefore has to suppress some freedom in order to gain organization, also protect freedom?
tim pool
Like a bill of rights, a system based around a core of ideologies that says, in order to violate a person's rights, there must be due process.
So we have organized a system in the U.S.
Not perfect, but pretty good.
Now, there's a lot of places in the world that don't have that.
I'm not suggesting we go with force and kick their doors in and then staple constitutions to their walls.
But it would be awesome if, whatever ends up happening with mass communications, we don't end up with a Chinese communist-style overarching global authority.
We end up with a classically liberal, we respect, if you live in the United States, then you are allowed to set the laws for the United States.
However, no war.
International agreements on not having war, not stealing resources.
You know, there's gotta be something.
I'll tell you this.
There's that famous quote that I think it was from one of the Rothschilds, I'm not entirely sure, you would probably know, where he said that it's not, it's not, it's not that, what did he say?
Globalization will happen whether anybody wants it to or not, or something like that.
And a lot of people I know, a lot of libertarians and ANCAPs, think he was, you know, twirling his mustache going, yeah, globalization will happen!
When in reality he was saying, like, the way the world is going with communications and trade, we will eventually have a one world government.
The goal, I suppose, is the United States and those who live in it should be able to have their rights respected within their own borders.
They should have their constitutional freedoms and rights.
They shouldn't be banned or censored or shut down.
But there could be international agreements on what happens in the event of conflict, of war, of territorial disputes.
So we can get to that point.
We can have a system.
We already do have a system by which we have an international currency.
It's called Visa and MasterCard.
I can go to any country in the world in my car and swipe and buy what I want, and it's so easy.
ian crossland
The Swift payment system?
The global Swift payment system?
tim pool
Because I'll tell you, man, I've been watching a lot of Stargate SG-1, and you know what one of the biggest problems is?
And I'm not talking about the fiction of the show, I'm talking about what the writers perceive when they're making the show, is that when they encounter other worlds and try to negotiate, they say, you can't negotiate on behalf of your people.
Like, if we give you weapons or utility, you'll go to war and you'll destroy yourselves.
So we need to have some kind of... We need to have a way to prevent World War III or whatever.
Now, of course, there are powerful global interests, elites, who desperately want a one-world authority.
The only problem is they're crackpot authoritarians who would burn your life to the ground, and they don't care about you as an individual.
They care about the numbers, the utilitarianism.
That's a nightmarish world to live in.
That's what the Chinese Communist Party does.
So I'm saying we don't want that.
kenny xu
Okay, but let me give you a different perspective.
You know, our Founding Fathers were authoritarians.
tim pool
They were authoritarians?
kenny xu
Well, this is what I mean.
I mean that we gave them authoritarian power to write our Constitution.
Like, at one point in time in the U.S.
history, we had an authoritarian government because those people were the ones who eventually came together and then they created the constitutional system that now protects freedom.
But in order to do that, we had to trust them with the ability to To make a constitution and a bill of rights and then to actually execute on that, at least for the first few years.
tim pool
But they didn't just write a constitution and staple it to a wall and say, this is what you have to deal with.
It was actually extremely difficult.
In order to actually get the constitution, they were going to states and negotiating, and the states were like, bug off, we don't care, we don't want this.
And it was actually very, very difficult.
It took, I think, over like 15 or 20 years to finally get states to actually vote for and sign on to the constitutional system.
kenny xu
It did, it did, but we still trusted them to make the initial creative effort.
Now, we had the ability to provide a backlash against that, but again, George Washington could have been king.
He could have been a president.
So, he had to actually step down and say, okay, I'm not actually going to do that.
Other people... Well, that just shows we didn't have the authoritarian Right, and that system was still being developed at that time, and there were people who exercised sort of authoritarian influence, like in Marbury v. Madison.
Judicial branch was not granted the ability for judicial review at the time.
They gave themselves the ability for judicial review in Marbury v. Madison.
So they kind of had a little bit of a, we're gonna get some power.
Nobody gave them the ability to do that, but they did.
tim pool
But is that is that is that is are some instances of authority being exercised in bad ways indicative of the entire system being authoritarian at some point?
ian crossland
I would say, yes, you have totalitarian authoritarians, which are very dangerous.
Where, like, the author of the Constitution is the authoritarian.
I mean, it's the exact same word.
Authoritarian.
Yeah, that's the root of the word authoritarian.
It's author.
tim pool
Authoritarian is a system defined by an authority that commands on down versus liberty, a liberty-based system, a weaker centralized power structure.
ian crossland
I think there's never all or none.
You always have aspects of authority within any given system.
tim pool
A family unit, a government, a democratic... So if you go all the way to the top of the political compass to authoritarian, you've got a guy who's beating the peasants to death and holding people at gunpoint to steal their stuff.
Excessive authoritarianism.
That's the epitome of authoritarian.
If you go all the way to the bottom, you get anarchy.
And it's where either you have free trade anarchy, where it's, you know, ANCAPs, or you have anarcho-syndicalism or communism, where people are sitting around and basking in the glories of their labor, which is utopian, to be completely honest.
ian crossland
And that's like a lack of authority.
tim pool
Or a tribe.
Right.
Anarchy means without authority.
So if you go all the way to the bottom with anarchy, you can literally have a small tribe of people who agree to share things and don't really ever think about money, or you can have free market capitalists that are just like, hey, the market dictates.
So, just because somebody says, I should have the ability to, like, you know, there's somebody who says, I'm writing this constitution and this is what I think we should do, doesn't mean the system is authoritarian.
They're, like, so, we can either, it's a gradient.
You could be 60% libertarian with 40% authoritarian, you can be, you know, any number.
kenny xu
Well, you know what Thomas Hobbes says about that.
What does he say?
I mean, he says, the function of a government is to hold people at gunpoint.
They have the The function of government has the power to hold somebody at gunpoint and demand things from them, you know that he said Even basically even we have this he would say, you know We have this veneer of liberalism right now where we give the people the illusion the ability that they have, you know rights and sincere voting power, but really
You know, who has the ability to coerce you?
It's the government.
unidentified
It's true, but... In that sense, it's authoritarian.
tim pool
Just because there are rules doesn't mean we're an authoritarian government.
Because the one thing about the United States is, and this is a lesson conservatives should have learned a while ago, you're allowed to speak, for the most part, and use that ability to build culture.
Now there are confines in the Overton window.
But because many people on the right weren't actively building culture, they were chasing after it, constantly defending from what the left wanted.
The left owns the narrative.
In the United States, we have an authoritarian culture that is taking over.
We still have some libertarian aspects within it.
And if we don't stop the authoritarian encroachment, it goes into government, which it is, with what Joe Biden is doing.
And this is something I was talking about four or five years ago.
And now here we are, where we're dangerously close to the government absorbing authoritarian cultural aspects and the people who oppose it being too fractured to do anything about it.
What I mean to say is, for the longest time, the United States was not authoritarian in that you could absolutely have your crackpot free speech group going around saying crazy things, and even have the ACLU defend you as you marched through Skokie, Illinois, with saying horribly anti-Semitic things.
ian crossland
But that was because we authoritatively decided you could do that by saying, if you're going to stop them from doing that, we're going to arrest you.
So they have freedom.
That's the authoritarian aspect of our government.
tim pool
You misunderstand what authoritarian means.
ian crossland
You think so?
tim pool
Yeah.
A cop who says, I can't arrest a guy for speaking is an authoritarian.
A cop who says, I can arrest you if you try to physically harm that person is still not an authoritarian.
ian crossland
Oh, I think they are authoritarian.
I mean, police by nature are authoritarian.
They are the author of law.
Or they're at least the arm of the author.
tim pool
They're an authority.
I think you misunderstand authoritarian, which is a government system of a top-down authority and centralized powers.
ian crossland
I would argue that saying that a government... saying the big A, authoritarian, is a misnomer.
That you really can't say a government is or isn't.
tim pool
You're just confusing authority.
ian crossland
It's always a gradient of authority within a government.
tim pool
So you're confusing the word authority with authoritarian.
So the police are constrained by the public in many, many ways.
Now the cops can do bad things.
They can seize your guns with a smile on their face when they do it.
They will kick grandma in the teeth to enforce these lockdowns.
So we're entering that period.
That's what I'm saying.
We are entering an authoritarian government because it starts with a culture and moves in and nothing was going to stop it.
ian crossland
But in the 60s, we had civil rights where they integrated the schools with authoritarianism.
They went in with guns in their arms and said, this school is now integrated.
tim pool
But that wasn't because a king or a centralized command structure made it so.
ian crossland
It was.
The president issued it.
tim pool
Yes, and it was because of mandate from the public.
ian crossland
True, yeah.
We are our own author in that system.
So you're confusing authoritarian Well, maybe it's the totalitarian, which is the extreme authoritarianism, is actually totalitarianism.
tim pool
If you've got a house with ten people in it, and six people demand pepperoni on their pizza, and four demand pineapple.
Is it authoritarian when the six people are like, we're ordering pepperoni?
No, it's a democratic vote.
Now, democracy can be tyranny, tyranny of the majority, but there's a big difference between a centralized hierarchical command structure of authority that dictates everyone has to do something and no one can do anything about it, and a group of people coming out, voicing their opinion, and the system changing in response to the will of the people.
ian crossland
Right, when you have one person issuing the authority, it's very dangerous, but when you have a group able to do it, it's called democracy.
tim pool
So to clarify too, there can be cult authoritarianism for sure.
Everybody marching to dogma and just reacting in a certain way.
And that's Black Lives Matter and critical race theory and critical race applied principles.
But when that goes into government, you end up with dictatorial presidents screaming at the top of their lungs, threatening people and using those powers against their perceived enemies.
And that's when your government becomes authoritarian.
kenny xu
Okay, it's interesting.
I want to go back to your pizza example for a sec.
I think it's interesting.
So the group decides, so six people, there are ten people, six people decide on pepperoni, four people decide on pineapple, but someone still has to make the call to Domino's and say, okay, we're getting pepperoni pizza.
unidentified
Yep.
kenny xu
Now that person may say, I have the mandate to call dominoes, uh, because we have the majority who said they want pepperoni.
So I'm going to call pepperoni.
But what if somebody on the pineapple side was like, well, no, you don't have the mandate because we want to make it unanimous.
And you're like, well, no, I think it's majority rule.
And then at that point it's a, it's actually, I could see it be the person who calls the pepperoni is actually just asserting his power over the other 10 people.
tim pool
Did you agree to the rules?
kenny xu
I don't know.
tim pool
did they? Yes, I mean we've long had a structure in place of like, here's how we'll have the vote.
Here, here, good sir, and we shake hands. These are the rules for the game in terms of how we make
decisions. Then four people start screaming, it's not fair, it's not fair. It's what you get with
2016. They all agreed to the rules of the election and then screamed, all these horrible things about
Donald Trump. When it came to the 2020 election, a bunch of Republicans and Democrats started
changing voter rules in many states, which resulted in a major lawsuit by Texas, which is
very, very different, which is I can understand why many of the Trump supporters are angry about
about it, among other things.
So, the issue is, if you and I agree, we're going to arm wrestle, and the winner gets to choose what topping we put on our pizza, and you lose, you can't then claim, well, you don't have the mandate.
That's authoritarian.
I'm like, bro, we agree to this.
We agree to a sorting mechanism by which we decide how things are made.
Just because we have to make hard decisions and someone has to be the one to do it, doesn't mean that it's an authoritarian system.
If Black Lives Matter gains power because of their cult ideology, they will have the ability to enforce this because they have a bunch of zealots who go around smashing windows and beating people.
But there will be one person who exercises the authority and dictates to their cult to go and take action.
Then, the will of the people doesn't matter anymore.
So you look at Cuba.
Most people did not want communism.
They did not want a dictatorship.
But they were tricked and manipulated, and the revolutionary forces of Castro had the ability to take whatever they wanted.
People resisted.
There was no agreement to that.
That was authoritarian.
No one voted for him to do this.
Well, actually, I don't know exactly if maybe they had a faux vote, but I'm pretty sure the elections never came.
That's what José was saying.
The Constitution never came, the election never came, and before we knew it, Castro was just the dictator who controlled everything.
That's where we're going, thanks to critical race theory and the elimination of meritocracy.
The idea is, you cut off the tall grass, you take away anyone's ability to challenge you, and you mandate things based on seemingly random characteristics, and then, that's probably one of the surefire ways towards authoritarianism.
With a meritocratic system, it's not as easy to have authoritarianism, but you can, right?
With a meritocratic system, you can get, let's just call it a free market system.
Over time, monopolies form, power develops, and you get the East India Trading Company.
No regulation, the wealthiest, most powerful company that ever existed.
And they can do what they want, set up cities, enslave people, attack people.
With centralization, with leftist ideology, with things like critical race theory, you use ideology and you just centralize authority immediately.
So instead of taking a long amount of time to earn your position, they assert it by force.
unidentified
Right.
kenny xu
I mean, this is the premise of my book, you know, An Inconvenient Minority.
So, you know, critical race theorists, you know, they actually, it's funny the way we talk about critical race theorists, because you need to realize that critical race theorists use race as a marketing tool.
They use race as a marketing tool to get people of that race to support them, to value them, to buy their books, to vote for them, everything like that.
Race is a marketing tool at this stage of things.
It's a marketing tool for the purpose of eventual oppression because if you can convince somebody that their race is what matters to you and race is a set of characteristics that involves not acting white or acting white or this kind of thing, then you can convince them to do things based on things that they wouldn't otherwise have chosen to do because you've appealed to a racial identity.
tim pool
Well, there's another component to the critical race theory stuff, and it's the riots.
That's their physical enforcement.
If you don't agree with them, they smash your window.
So what do we see?
In places like Berkeley, people in their windows, they put up Black Lives Matter signs.
The signs don't actually mean they support Black Lives Matter.
The signs actually mean, please don't hurt me.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think that Kenny is making the extremely salient point that at the end of the day, the bottom line is the question of who decides.
And this is the issue of censorship.
Who decides what is misinformation?
Who decides whether Joe Biden should be taken off YouTube?
And Joe Biden mentioned this a little while ago.
He's like, it's not so much about the votes as who counts the votes.
That is the person who decides who's going to be in power.
It's the person who calls the shots.
tim pool
Let's talk about critical race theory in these schools.
Kenny, where are you from?
kenny xu
I'm from Virginia.
tim pool
Were you born in Virginia?
kenny xu
I was born in Maryland and moved to Virginia when I was three years old.
tim pool
Born in Maryland.
So you're an American, and you just happen to be of Asian descent, of Asian ethnicity, your parents are Asian, but you are an American citizen.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
What I see in this, in what the schools are doing, like Harvard, to Asian Americans, to people of Asian descent, is they're simply saying, because you look like those people, you can't go to this school.
That's it.
kenny xu
Yeah, they're treating you based on something that you can't control about yourself.
They're also treating you based on something you didn't consent to give them.
You know, Harvard asked for race in your college application, but even if you don't give your race, They're still going to find out what race you are, because they have an access to a database of all the students in the entire country.
And they know not just your race, they know your family's household income, they know the neighborhood that you live in, they know the school that you went to, they know the crime rate of the school that they went to.
And so regardless of how you consent to this, if you consent to give this information or not, they're going to treat you based on it.
You know, and this is the new, this is the marriage.
Harvard's admissions process is the marriage of racial profiling with data mining.
That's what it is.
It represents an authoritarian future.
tim pool
What?
kenny xu
Yeah.
tim pool
No, no, go ahead.
kenny xu
It represents an authoritarian future where people are going to get information from you without your consent and things like race, background, everything like that, and then judge you on it.
That is what the authoritarians will eventually do, and Harvard's process is an example of where we're going as a culture.
tim pool
The main thing I see here that is the most alarming is, as we've mentioned earlier in the show, the left doesn't view individuals.
They don't see individuals.
Their whole system is comprised of utility.
That's it.
That's why they're like, how many Asians are in the school?
Too many!
How many white people?
Too many!
How many Latinos?
Not enough!
How many black people?
Not enough!
They don't care about the individuals and the work being done, and they don't care about the fact that there could quite literally be a black man who was born in Spain!
And he's Hispanic!
He speaks Spanish!
And so they're like, ah, but his skin looks a certain way.
And then you have Americans in this country who are of any background and they're like, we want you to go to this school simply because of how you look.
What the?
What does that matter?
It doesn't matter at all.
I can't believe they're at a point where they're simply saying, we want people to look different.
ian crossland
It's interesting.
It's, it's, it's an interesting conversation because genetically, obviously we're different.
Everyone's different.
And probably because of our ancestry, there's subtle differences in our genetics that are interesting to talk about.
unidentified
Um, I, I just.
ian crossland
Oh God, I had another part of that point.
tim pool
Well, the point is, regardless of certain things, like I went to Thailand and I was taller than everybody, right?
I certainly think through hard work and dedication and commitment and you can achieve great things and become the best of the best of the best.
Now, of course, there's always going to be a Michael Phelps.
He's got a wider arm span than normal.
And if someone was saying, like, he produces less lactate, lactic acid or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So this makes him just the best swimmer ever.
Yeah, well, you know, it happens, and that's kind of why we have competition.
But most people can earn experience and skills and work hard and be dedicated and make themselves better in a variety of ways.
Maybe you're not the smartest.
You could be the strongest.
Maybe you're not the tallest.
You can be super fast.
You could work really hard.
Muggsy Bozeman, that guy could 360 dunk.
That dude could jump so high.
It doesn't matter, in my opinion, what you look like.
It matters if you have the determination, the commitment, the willingness to do better, to be better.
And so what the problem I have with all of this is, first and foremost, how insane is it that these people would look at a 10-year-old Vietnamese kid, whose parents came here from Vietnam, and they say, Oh, honey, you can't go to Harvard.
You look like those people too much.
That's it!
For the only reason you will never go to this Ivy League school, you look like those, that's insane to me.
These people are scumbags.
unidentified
Well, you know, I agree with you there.
kenny xu
Look, and I'll just show you some facts.
Look, Harvard University, you have to score, if you're an Asian American, you have to score 440 points higher on the SAT to have the same chance of admission as a black American.
Wow.
tim pool
Simply because you both have different color skin.
kenny xu
Simply because you both have different color skin.
Out of 1600 points?
Out of 1600.
No, actually, that was out of 2400.
Back in the old 2400 days.
If you submitted an application, the exact same application, and you had the same SAT score, the same grades, the same objective metrics, the only thing you did was you changed your race from Asian to black.
A Harvard admissions officer is going to look at the Asian application and they're going to say, oh, he's just like all the other Asians.
Probably groomed by his parents, overachieving, test-taking nerd, no personality.
You change it to black.
The story is most likely going to be, oh my gosh, this guy is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
We have to admit him and give him everything.
Yeah, and the thing is, they say they do this to admit the kids from underprivileged backgrounds, but if you look at even the black admits at Harvard University, 70 plus percent of them are upper middle class or higher and 50 percent of them are immigrants, are children of black immigrants.
So they're not even admitting the kid from the south side of Chicago who you may think deserves or should get that chance.
They're admitting the privileged kid who looks black.
tim pool
Yep.
What a disgusting reality, I suppose.
When I was growing up, I was told never to let anyone know that I was Asian if I was applying for a job.
I would have to lie.
ian crossland
I started putting other on my things like 10 years ago or 15 years ago.
It's just so gross.
tim pool
I remember I was applying for a job and I was told, oh, just don't put Asian, put Mexican or something else.
I was like, why?
And I was told Asians don't have powerful special interest groups, so they don't get special favors in government, and people are allowed to discriminate against you on the basis of your race if you tell them the truth about your family.
ian crossland
What did you say, Lydia?
lydia smith
Doesn't it strike you as unbelievably racist for them to look at a black applicant and be like, holy cow, this person is insanely special?
tim pool
Do you remember what Joe Biden said about Obama?
unidentified
I think they call it race realism when you talk about the actual genetic differences.
tim pool
And I don't even think it's different races.
He said the what is that the first articulate.
He's so articulate and articulate.
unidentified
Yeah. And I was like, like, I think they call it race realism.
ian crossland
When you talk about the actual genetic differences.
And I don't even think it's different races.
Am I right to say that? Like the human race realists believe in
tim pool
light hard racial differences.
ian crossland
Right.
And which, I mean, according to genetics, I think there are, there's a reason why skin colors come out differently.
But they take it to a very, like, that's the problem with it because it's a fascinating conversation just to know.
But that doesn't mean that we're different, like that we have different senses of freedom.
We're all equally valuable and able.
tim pool
Yes.
And I think one of the problems with race realism is that people, look, a lot of people make assumptions.
It's how humans work.
We look at something, we say, here's why I think, I think this is why it's happening.
Let me test that.
And then race realists think, if I see, you know, something like the bell curve, Uh, and I see these differences based on IQ.
It clearly must be the racial component and perhaps some of it, you know, I think it was Sam Harris and a few other, uh, I think, I'm not sure who it was, Sam Harris and maybe some of the IDW people saying there's some component there, obviously, why wouldn't there be?
But they think it's the end all be all absolute reason.
And I think that is likely incorrect.
I do think there's a mix between nature and nurture for sure.
But I think human potential is typically not met.
And that means, regardless of your race, if you study hard and you work hard, you can be the best of the best of the best.
You might not be, like, the number one position.
ian crossland
But you might.
tim pool
But you might?
It's just, there's 8 billion people, you know?
It's 1 in 8 billion to be number one.
Who knows who that's gonna be or why?
lydia smith
I think part of what Kenny is seeing and part of what you see with these black kids being like the kids of Nigerian immigrants is a cultural thing.
So Tim's talking about how that you look a certain way so that means you're not going to have a chance to get in.
Do you think it is how you look or do you think it's at least partly because of the Asian cultural preference for hard work and studying and all that?
kenny xu
So, you know, this is a complicated question.
I'm not a race realist.
I think that predominantly what explains disparities in... I think predominantly what predicates disparities in the United States with regards to a lot of these things is cultural.
I think that cultural factors, for example, Asian Americans don't come to the U.S.
with like a significantly higher IQ than the average person.
And in fact, studies have shown that Asians with lower IQ are able to overcome that lower IQ because they study pretty hard, they work really hard, and they're actually able to compete with whites at an IQ bracket that's a quintile higher, a quintile of the standard deviation higher than them.
So this is this is this is this is massive.
This is this shows you that it's not just your IQ that makes you successful.
You really have to put in the work and what Asian Americans do on average and I'm saying this on average every individual is different.
There are a lot of Asian-Americans who don't work hard, but Asian-Americans individually on average study twice as many hours as the average American per week.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you this.
I think it's cultural.
I was, I was, I was tutored by my mom when I was like one or two and she's, she's Korean.
ian crossland
Is she a hundred percent Korean, like born in Korea, half Korean?
tim pool
Nope.
Born in the United States.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
Her parents were, one of her parents was from Korea, born in Korea.
tim pool
I don't know exactly where, but my grandmother was 100% Korean, and that trickles down a little bit, I suppose.
ian crossland
I would imagine.
I mean, I value free speech because I'm an American, because I was born here and raised here with these cultural values.
If I have children, I'm going to pass those on to my children.
It's not because of the way I look, but the people that are my progeny that look like me, then will.
tim pool
But it's not even about that.
You believe in free speech?
kenny xu
Yes.
tim pool
And your parents came from China.
kenny xu
There you go.
tim pool
The Chinese Communist Party does not believe in free speech.
People can be whatever, you know what I mean?
That's why, you know, there was a story that came out recently, Gallup poll.
Race relations are worse than they've been in like a really long time.
And I think it's because millennials are extremely racist.
I think that modern leftist and progressive millennials are the most racist we've seen in a very, very, very long time.
And so that's why you see around like 2013 race relations plummet.
Because this is when millennials start aging into the workforce, into influential positions, and they start espousing their racist ideology.
Now you have racist millennials admitted white supremacists like Robin D'Angelo espousing racist ideals
And then all of a sudden you've got a bunch of minorities being like yo these people are racist what?
When I'm a really did lay on that race card during occupy Wall Street when the occupy activists
Segregated all the activists by race. I remember seeing that yeah, no joke. They did crazy
They created race-based caucuses for voting on how the body would spend money.
They literally had like the Hispanic caucus, the Asian caucus, the people of color caucus, the black caucus.
And so I remember they split up all the groups based on race and there was this black dude chilling because Zuccotti Park, where Occupy happens, is slightly downhill.
So there's like this ledge that slowly turns into a very high ledge like very small at the top of the By the street and then as you walk down the ground goes down the ledge stays the same height and he's sitting up on top of it I see him arguing with somebody and I walk over and I'm listening to him and he just goes Do you have any idea what the press is gonna say when they find out y'all?
segregated based on race and I started laughing and I'm like dude, yes, like these people have lost it and But you know what?
Their ideology is winning.
kenny xu
That's crazy because it's so, it has, the question of success in America has much less to do with your race, your race, than it has to do with these cultural values that can be adopted by any race.
And to say, I mean, you know, hard work, studying hard, any race can do, it doesn't matter if you're Asian, you can study hard if you're white.
tim pool
Did you know that?
That was that you know that yeah you see that thing you're black.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you see that graphic they had on the was the African-American history museum whatever.
And it said like working hard and having a schedule was whiteness.
That to me is absolutely insane.
But I will add.
kenny xu
Yeah.
tim pool
There have been several studies done and they found one trait that guarantees success.
Or I should say, one trait that was highly correlated with success.
ian crossland
It's IQ, right?
unidentified
No.
No.
ian crossland
What is it?
tim pool
It isn't wealth.
Is that a trait?
Yes.
It isn't wealth.
It isn't IQ.
It isn't race.
It isn't national origin.
It isn't gender.
It's perseverance.
The one thing they found among every group, every race, every gender, every age bracket, every IQ bracket, every class, was those who refused to give up succeeded and those who gave up failed.
kenny xu
That's incredible.
I mean, this is one reason why black Americans who join the military, who join the army, actually tend to have much higher career success outcomes, both military and non-military afterwards.
You know, in the army, you're taught things like perseverance.
You're taught things like overcoming and resilience and everything like that.
And the people who are put with that kind of structure in their lives, you know, can can really elevate and that's why you see black
Americans who are in the military, you know, are disproportionately well represented among the
upper middle and upper classes in America.
ian crossland
When you were studying the meritocracy and the failure of, is it Harvard that's doing
these admissions things? Was that what you said?
kenny xu
Okay, so here's the thing about this crazy thing that's happening at Harvard.
All of this admissions process, this race baiting and profiling started at Harvard, but it has since grown to become an entire Ivy League phenomenon.
And then from there, the Ivy League exported this ideology to big corporations like Google and Facebook.
And now you see Google and Facebook and their diversity and inclusion programs also be anti-Asian.
You know, I just published this article in Quillette magazine.
Asians make up 90% of Silicon Valley software engineers.
Wow.
90% of Silicon Valley software engineers, but you go up each level of management, Asians get lower and lower and lower percentage.
And so, in the executive level, they're only like 20% of the executive level of Facebook and Google.
You know, this is an example of, and nobody is advocating for Asians to be hired more or promoted more in Silicon Valley and things like that because they don't fit the narrative because they're still considered over-represented.
tim pool
Meritocracy, man.
If you earn it, if you can do it, then there you go.
ian crossland
Are you able to isolate methodologies that enhance meritocracy amongst education and business?
kenny xu
First of all, I understand IQ is correlated significantly with performance in college, and particularly Not just IQ, but standardized test scores.
You have to look at objective metrics, like standardized test scores.
People love to rip on tests.
They love to rip on standardized tests.
I get it.
It's a lot of work.
You have to study.
But the standardized test measures two things that are meritorious.
It measures your innate intelligence, and it measures how hard you prepare, right?
Because you have to prepare for tests.
And if you don't study for tests, you're lazy.
And if you're lazy, you're not going to do well in school.
So now Harvard is trying to get rid of standardized tests of admissions.
Why?
They say, you know, it disproportionately benefits the wealthy and privileged over, you know, poor black and Latino students.
You know, they pointed the fact that blacks tend to do worse on standardized tests than other people.
But what they conveniently leave out is that standardized tests actually correct for wealth and privilege.
Because if you're a poor kid, an immigrant kid, who has no social connections, You're not going to be able to stand out when compared next to a rich and wealthy kid, except through the standardized test.
The standardized test is the only test that allows you to be able to compete side by side with a wealthy and privileged kid and beat them.
tim pool
Because typically what happens is the guy shows up, talks to the dean, and says, my son would like to go here.
Let me give a donation to the West Wing.
Soccer team, you're funded.
Lacrosse team, you're funded.
Kid gets in.
kenny xu
And nearly 10% of Harvard's new class could be considered a child of a donor, that make this Dean's List that Harvard uses to signify primarily children of donors.
And then 35% of them are legacies.
ian crossland
What's that?
What's a legacy?
kenny xu
A legacy is a kid whose parents went to Harvard.
Yeah.
tim pool
So there's a lot of issues, and I don't know if we have all the answers, but we do have super chats.
So let's talk to you guys, see what you have to say.
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All right, let's see what we got here.
Mr. 36 says, Hey Tim and crew, thank you for all the important work you do.
Congratulations on all your success.
I can't wait to see what the future holds at Timcast.
Much love from locked down Australia.
lydia smith
Good luck.
tim pool
Sorry to hear it, but we got some dungeon masters coming.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
The exciting thing is when new people come, they bring an unexpected, like a whole new reality of being that like changes, you know, in ways you didn't even conceptualize could happen.
tim pool
Like when Scott showed up with that diseased mangy cat staring at us.
ian crossland
I ran, but I couldn't run fast enough.
tim pool
And then Ian was like, why'd you hire this guy?
And I was like, get him, Scott!
And then Scott released the cat at Ian and Ian.
unidentified
I'm kidding.
tim pool
There's no Scott.
Scott doesn't exist.
ian crossland
And there was no diseased mangy cat.
tim pool
Nope, never happened.
Nope.
ian crossland
I woke up in the dark and I was like, what's cutting me?
I'm just kidding about that.
lydia smith
It's a very exciting round here.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's non-stop action.
lydia smith
We're encouraging people to work here.
This is great.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Placid Saint says, Tim, Lucas and Isaac Botkin from T-Rex Arms said in an Armory livestream on Twitch, they would go on your show by invite only to talk about changing the culture on two-way and how to do it.
We will take a look into that.
It would be really fun to talk about guns.
Because Joe Biden was basically like, we're going to ban all the guns!
And it's like, oh, he basically said it.
Seven Missoon says, Ian looks like a younger version of the crazy long-haired doctor from Independence Day.
lydia smith
Does he?
ian crossland
Oh, oh wait.
tim pool
That was Brent Spiner, wasn't it?
Brent Spiner?
ian crossland
Yeah, it was!
Yeah.
Thank you.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
tim pool
But you know what was funny?
Like, in the original Independence Day, he's just the doctor, and then they, like, really emphasized his gay marriage in the, uh, in the new, in the sequel.
lydia smith
That's silly.
tim pool
You know?
ian crossland
I didn't know.
tim pool
They, like, made it a big component.
Yeah, it's a little too woke.
Maybe.
Like, my thing is, like, if it's emphasized to the same degree as any marriage would be, I really don't care.
But if they make it, like, a centerpiece, I'm kinda like, I get it, guys.
ian crossland
Like, the love story's cool, but if it's, uh, that it's gay, then that's annoying.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't like that.
ian crossland
I don't care what gender.
tim pool
All right, Gino Fass says, who feeds the chickens every morning at the Timcast homestead?
Also, hi Ian!
So here's what happens.
We have a big, uh, just, it's a gravity feeder.
It's like, it's a big thing.
You fill with food, and then as the chickens eat, it just goes down.
unidentified
It's great.
tim pool
You know, they, and they scratch and they drag.
However, chickens eat bugs.
So really what happens is, I get up in the morning, you know, I get ready.
After I record the first show, I go out and I release the chickens to the farm.
And they've decimated the zucchinis and the tomatoes.
They're tearing the whole place to shreds.
They're little dinosaurs running around just destroying everything.
lydia smith
Very exciting.
tim pool
And we're going to lay concrete down and move the garden.
So it's time for the chickens to come and destroy it.
But there's no feeding them really.
They have a feeder and then they eat bugs.
And so that's what they do.
They go out, they eat bugs and they eat vegetables.
ian crossland
I got a fantastic 10 second video of them on my Instagram page of them just lounging.
End of the day, chillin' out, and the rooster screams.
So if you want to hear that rooster, go check it out.
tim pool
Yeah, the dirt bats are funny.
unidentified
They like dig little holes and then they... They're rolling around.
tim pool
Yeah, they're trying to have babies.
So I actually found out a couple of the eggs were fertilized.
So I'm going to leave them and see if they have some children.
lydia smith
Cool.
tim pool
And they'll be goofy looking, I guess, because we've got a bunch of different breeds of chicken, you know?
lydia smith
Mutt chickens.
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
All right, let's see what we got.
JMac says, Asian history is very respectable, honorable, pragmatic, and ancient.
The first goal of the CCP was to destroy that history.
Was it the first goal?
I know it was a major goal, but yeah.
kenny xu
Major goal.
tim pool
Yeah, erase the past.
That's crazy.
I just saw that movie, Hero.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, watch that.
tim pool
Yeah, who mentioned, someone mentioned it to us.
ian crossland
Andreas, I think, was talking about it.
tim pool
Someone on the show was like, hero, because he basically is like, he's an anti-imperial, but then by the end he decides to spare the emperor or whatever.
Either way, fun movie.
ian crossland
Andreas was saying it was imperialist propaganda.
tim pool
It was imperialist propaganda.
ian crossland
CCP propaganda.
We didn't know at the time.
And now it's banned in China?
tim pool
Is that true?
Yeah, it's not CCP propaganda.
lydia smith
They would ban it if it was.
ian crossland
Who knows?
Yeah, it's all about control.
I don't think they want you to believe any one thing in particular.
They just want to control what you think.
And I'm not saying the CCP, but authoritarians in general.
tim pool
Oh, this is fun.
Rocky says, Tim and crew, you should have a glossary for your commonly used ideas with sources on your website.
Not just Overton Window, but quote, there are four lights.
lydia smith
That's a good idea.
tim pool
That would be an interesting thing to make.
lydia smith
We keep adding to it.
tim pool
Yeah, just like common things we mention.
ian crossland
Like a little wiki.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
John Hutto says, do we know that the 188k crossing the border are even being all tested?
Or what percentage were tested?
No, we don't.
lydia smith
Nope.
tim pool
They just walk through the border, get in a car, and then drive off.
It's amazing, isn't it?
lydia smith
It's a good time to be a migrant.
tim pool
Okay, what is this?
Frank says, I want to hear Ian say, just like the Pied Piper led rats through the streets, we dance like marionettes, swaying to the symphony of destruction.
ian crossland
Just like the Pied Piper led the rats through the streets, we dance like marionettes to the symphony of destruction.
tim pool
Swaying to the symphony of destruction.
ian crossland
Don't overachieve.
That's my goal.
lydia smith
Really close.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Oh, here's a very important one from Make 1984 Fiction again.
He says, Truinanana Shabba Da... Oh, he added some to it.
He's trying to get me.
Because Biden said, Truinanana Shabba Da Pressure.
He says, Truinanana Shabba Da... Daaden Da Pressure.
Shabba Daada Da Pressure.
There you go.
lydia smith
Extra syllable.
tim pool
Oh, it's a dond in there.
Donda Da Pressure.
Shabba Da Donda Da Pressure.
unidentified
There you go.
lydia smith
Important.
tim pool
OK, let's see where we at.
Um... VelvetSchwinker says, Tim, please make your bonus segments an hour long!
I would love to, however there is one very difficult challenge there, and that is I already record four hours a day of podcast.
What's another half an hour?
Four hours, man.
Okay.
Mental Slave says Ryan Chapman's video called The Marxism Behind Leftist Identity Politics Explained is very well done and informative.
I recommend it.
Interesting.
Handyman says Ian's silver lining.
Wokeism will eventually destroy the Fed like it does everything else.
It will.
unidentified
Let's deconstruct the Fed rather than destroy.
lydia smith
How's that?
tim pool
McSquared says Tim, look up the etymology anti.
The original Greek root has multiple meanings, against and in place of.
So anti-racism is a replacement for racism, not something that is against racism.
Colloquially, the modern version of anti is meant to imply opposite of or opposed to, but that's not what it means, is it?
It's just a dog whistle.
It's a manipulation.
lydia smith
That's pretty clever.
tim pool
Yep.
OMGPuppy says, BAP says, it's the billionaire plutocrats versus middle class, workers, farmers, and small business.
They covet their aggregated wealth, will take their property, arms, and freedom.
Plutocrats gather power by inventing and allying with fake victim classes.
That's where we're headed.
Wrath of Paul says, I live in New York, and if mask mandates and or lockdowns return, I will not comply.
Civil disobedience is our best tool to fight the COVID-1984 regime.
There are many people who share the sentiment, even here.
In fact, I'm not even convinced the lockdowns can't come back, to be completely honest.
We already saw one story where I think it was in Victoria.
They were like, chaos, as people just went and did whatever they wanted.
I think, yeah, New York, I just think regular people are like, eh.
lydia smith
That's how I feel.
tim pool
But we're in the middle of nowhere.
ian crossland
It's 15 days to slow the spread.
The whole shutdown thing is what weirds me out because it was just to slow the spread so we didn't overload the hospitals.
So now I don't understand.
tim pool
I don't see why.
I forgot what it's called.
Do you know about that drowning rat experiment?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
Tell me.
What is it called?
Guys in the chat, you guys are going to know what it's called.
It was where the guy put the rats in the tubes and they were drowning.
It's horrible.
It's after the sea, I think.
lydia smith
Let me see if I can find it.
tim pool
Yeah, the something rat experiment.
So here's what happened.
There are these big cylinders full of water and he would put rats in them.
And within 15 minutes, the rats would be struggling and then just give up and then sink and drown.
lydia smith
The hope experiment?
tim pool
No, it's a rat experiment.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's what they're calling it.
ian crossland
Behavioral despair test?
tim pool
It is, it's not called the Hope Experiment.
lydia smith
Behavioral Disparitist?
tim pool
There's a name, there's a guy who did it and he has a name.
And they do say it's an experiment that shows you the power of hope, which is a creepy story,
because here's what happened.
The rats would drown in about 15 minutes.
With the next group, he puts the rats in, and then right before they give up and drown, he takes them out, dries them off, lets them rest for a few minutes, and then puts them back in.
The second time, they swam for, like, several days.
Whoa.
And what they say is it's because the rats were holding out, hoping that the hand would come back and save them from their fate.
lydia smith
Kurt Richter.
tim pool
Kurt Richter.
That's it.
It's the Kurt Richter rat experiment.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Creepy, huh?
So anyway, I bring that up because people have been mentioning the similarities in that, or not the similarities, but the idea.
We get this lockdown, it's 15 days.
Everybody starts boiling in their seats.
We get riots and people are losing their minds and then they lift it all.
And everyone's like, now if the lockdowns come back, it could be indefinite.
And people would sustain themselves more without becoming hopeless because they know if they just hold out, There will be an end to the lockdown.
So now, assuming this experiment translates to humans, maybe it doesn't.
Rats are different.
They could lockdown for a decade.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
Hey, I'm in the middle of nowhere, that's why I got out of the cities.
And you got Jack Posobiec saying it, you got me saying it, we had Travis Corcoran with the book Escape the City, although he was saying it's not time to leave the city just yet.
My thing is like, dude, we just got these electric bikes, we're like riding them around, like in the, you know, it's like just, it's a big yard, it's like, you know.
And so we just ride them around, we go skating, we've got ramps, we got a barbecue grill, we got chickens.
The chickens are yellin', you know?
It's fun.
ian crossland
I'd love to build giant tubes that we could ride up into and, like, ride on the sides and, like, go around.
tim pool
Yes!
Yeah, wood prices are going down a little bit.
We got construction on the new studio happening out here in the middle of nowhere.
It's almost like there's no restrictions or lockdowns, and there never were, to be honest.
ian crossland
Thank God we're connected to the internet so that I know what the heck's going on.
tim pool
I mean, is that a good thing?
ian crossland
Definitely.
tim pool
Sometimes, don't you just want to just go to the top of the mountain and just sit back and look at the stars and, you know, pull out a bag of chips and just, you know, read a book or something?
ian crossland
Yes!
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, we're too hyper-connected these days, right?
It's not all good.
All right.
Dave Franco Jr.
says Joe Biden is telling the truth.
The MAGA movement is a threat to the power structures that have exalted these lesser men above us.
So it is the greatest threat to his vision of America, not actual regular Americans.
And perhaps when Joe Biden said the greatest threat since the Civil War, he's not talking about the Republicans or the Trump supporters.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
He's not talking about the greatest threat to America.
He's specifically talking to the oligarchical elites.
We envision him talking to the American people, most of the Democrats.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
He's not even talking to them.
He's looking into the eyes of the Goldman Sachs banker, saying what they're doing is
the biggest threat since the Civil War.
kenny xu
Right.
Yeah, I mean, it's true because, you know, in a sense he does talk to them in that way
because you have these big, huge billionaires, McKenzie, Bezos, and Bill Gates and everything
like that, and they're giving away all of this money, and you see how much money they're
giving to all of these woke causes.
Yeah, and how did they get this idea?
I mean you would presume they're smart people, you know, if they built all of these companies Why are they giving it all of these things?
Well, they're appealing to their sense their emotion of of Empathy.
Oh, you need to go and contribute to these people because it shows that you care because you can virtue signal So as a result, this is this entire emotion breeding industry, you know results in billions of dollars for Black Lives Matter and the like Yep All right, James Groh says, long time listener, first time super chat.
tim pool
You've kept me sane and informed for years and I look forward to all your future projects.
Rock on you bald cuck and crew.
And Larry Elder for California governor.
Larry Elder is leading the polls.
ian crossland
I saw that.
tim pool
That is the coolest thing I've ever heard.
ian crossland
Wow.
But they weren't talking about it, right?
Wasn't it like they showed the top people and he wasn't even on the list and then they showed like Larry Elder's got like Oh, because they're trying to keep him off.
tim pool
They're trying to block him from being able to run.
He has to, like, sue or something.
Yeah, because, dude, if he wins, it would be, like, the best thing ever.
ian crossland
It's him and Caitlyn Jenner, right?
tim pool
Caitlyn Jenner dropped.
No, no, no.
She was not the top, but she went to Australia for, like, Big Brother or something.
lydia smith
Oh!
ian crossland
For a TV show?
tim pool
I guess.
ian crossland
Oh, wild.
tim pool
Yeah, Jenner was polling at 4%.
Yep, but Larry Elder, governor of California.
Could you imagine?
I'm just going to be very utopian.
It's like he walks in and then like everybody's standing outside waiting to see what happens.
And then they look at their watches and then all of a sudden California's fixed.
unidentified
It's like bling!
tim pool
It's like all of a sudden everything's back to normal.
lydia smith
The homeless people.
tim pool
Yeah, the poop is off the streets.
The homeless people.
Instantly the homeless guy sitting there just pops up and a suit appears on him.
It's like, whoa!
And then he's like got a job and he's like on the phone.
He's like, I'm going to make that sale.
Just everything just perfectly happens.
The poop just gets up and just walks away itself.
It's all magic utopia.
ian crossland
We started recovering plastic and building 3D printing tubes to make geodesic domes for people to live in.
kenny xu
Love it.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Or one gigantic geodesic dome with little dome pods all over the place.
ian crossland
Yeah, you break the plastic down with pestiopsis microspora fungus and turn it into sugar and then you mix it with graphene to 3D print the tubes.
lydia smith
Oh, there's graphene.
Perfect, yes.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Joe A. says, my dad is a landlord and he tried to evict someone for not paying rent for a year.
The town sends the evictions to city court now and the liberal city judge refused.
It has been three more months since.
Yes.
Communism?
That's where we're going?
I mean, look, the Great Reset people want people not to eat out, not to go to the stores, not to waste money.
They want you to live in the pot and eat the bugs if you're in the city.
And if you're in the middle of nowhere, they want you to have fun playing freeze tag instead of going to the movies.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I'm not.
Look, I love, you know, climbing and, you know, I love sports and stuff.
So, like, I enjoy my day when I go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
Too many people in these cities don't do that.
Their enjoyment is based upon physical things they can acquire.
And that's a problem.
ian crossland
Ben Stewart was saying that hanging from a tree branch for a little bit every day is really good for your balance.
tim pool
Really?
lydia smith
I could see it.
It's good for the back.
tim pool
Mike G says, yes, Ian, the missing puzzle piece is the coming market crash.
The government needs a smoke screen and it's the COVID Delta variant crap they keep pushing.
Yeah, market crash.
A lot of people have been saying that's coming.
ian crossland
And well, I think we're in it.
They take a while.
They take sometimes a couple of years.
You know, it doesn't happen one day.
tim pool
People don't realize how the shortages that are lurking.
I warned about the food shortage and now Taco Bell is saying it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, bro, if you listen to my show, I said this like two months ago.
Look at the local level.
The local news outlets were like, local Chinese food restaurant can't get chicken anymore.
And I was like, hey, how come the New York Times isn't reporting this?
How come we're not seeing CNN report there's a major food shortage?
They don't care.
The real money for national outlets is not in a local story about food.
But now, TacoBell.com, international chain, says at the top, sorry, we are unable to get certain ingredients and might not have your items available.
lydia smith
I was listening to a podcast and there was a grocery magnate who was saying that we're looking at inflation of like I want to say six to fourteen percent and then he was talking about like breaking down the kind of inflation we're gonna see and he's like it's coming like there's no escaping it and I'm pretty sure that's part of the reason we're seeing shortages at like Taco Bell and like these shortages of meat and everything but it's depressing.
tim pool
Mick Dundee says, can't have this argument without philosophy.
There are three root arguments.
Logic, emotional, authority needs to be discussed.
Yeah, man.
You know, I've been thinking a lot about tactics, and like the Gravel Institute, when they cheered on the tactic that was used by the insurrectionists, but then denounced the insurrectionists themselves, and I'm using insurrectionists as, you know, the way they describe it on the left.
So the people on January 6, you know, stormed the Capitol, and then Gravel Institute was like, they said it was a good thing, but they just disagree with the people who are doing it.
And I've been thinking a lot about this because I've, I've long said, you know, the ends don't justify the means because you'll never meet the ends.
If you build a government based on using violence and, you know, and, and seizing power, then you will just eventually get that anyway.
The problem is if people are going to use those tactics and they work and they exist, it'll never stop no matter what you do.
And thus you end with, you end up with this endless cycle and there's no real way to fix it.
We get a couple hundred years of classical liberal values and an expansion of civil rights, and then the wingnut crackpots come in and destroy it all and let it on fire to seize power.
And they claim we're justified to do it.
The Founding Fathers won the liberty and the Bill of Rights through a violent revolution.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I mean, the French.
Through the French emptying their bank account, basically.
Bankrupting the country.
tim pool
How about we say something different, Ian?
ian crossland
Let's do it.
tim pool
The French didn't intervene in the revolution.
The American revolutionaries intervened in the war between the French and the English, saving the French!
ian crossland
Okay, I like where your mind's at.
Vive la France!
tim pool
Yeah, France was basically just like, hey, we're at war with these guys, so, you know.
ian crossland
Anything you need, let's defeat the British.
tim pool
Yeah, we were basically helping them, you know.
lydia smith
They helped us.
ian crossland
We were a wonderful offshore diversion.
tim pool
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Mr. Bojangles says, The Constitution forbids the government from inhibiting the liberties of the people.
Therefore, the government should be responsible for ensuring corporations that operate within the public space do not limit those same liberties of the citizenry.
The challenge is, the Supreme Court has applied a lot of these arguments to corporations as individual entities, and that's where the challenge is.
To say that Twitter has to host the speech of Ian is arguably the same as telling Ian he has to say a certain
phrase or a quote by someone else.
The issue is we need to regulate big tech like utilities, like common carriers,
more like a phone company. Maybe not utility, but like a phone company. Which is utility, I guess.
And then they can't take you down because they have nothing to do with it.
ian crossland
Except people are telling me that they can't get texts through about, like, a doctor was like, I'm a doctor and my cousin's a, you know, a pathologist.
I'm texting him COVID vaccine and it wouldn't go through on his phone.
tim pool
Well, we already know why.
ian crossland
And multiple people are sending me this information and it lasts like four days.
So common carriers even seem like they're susceptible to corruption.
tim pool
Yeah, when the authoritarians take over.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
funky. Biden and the DNC said they're going to the phone company to shut them down to
shut down private text messages. Mesh networking, shortwave radio. Uh oh, uh oh, make 1984 fiction
again says, and when those 10 people get their pizza, they realize there's only eight pieces,
all hell breaks loose. No one ever said they were only ordering one pizza. Which brings
us to the other part of that argument is that in a direct democracy, the six people say
we want pepperoni in the force, a pineapple. And then the six say, yeah, well we have the
majority rule, so we are getting pepperoni pizza. And then you have like a ranked choice
republic or a parliamentary republic. And the four people say, then we choose to do
a pizza that is two thirds pepperoni and one third pineapple.
Problem solved.
ian crossland
Or two pizzas.
25 pieces and everybody gets two.
Right?
Is that how it works?
tim pool
Or you just do, uh, they say we're going to do two pizzas and one will, one will be a half pineapple pepperoni and the other will be pepperoni and then everyone's happy.
Problem solved.
ian crossland
That's the expansion.
That's our ability to expand is basically what's kept us alive this long as humans.
lydia smith
Unspecialized.
kenny xu
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, Phobes says, We agreed the social contract is not a valid contract.
I didn't sign ish.
And I noticed you've got that red and black little YouTube image,
presumably implying anarcho-capitalism.
That's right.
You didn't agree to the social contract.
However, there's an interesting argument I have with libertarians about, and ANCAPs about, living in the United States, and it's, sure you're born here, it's great to be here, there's a lot of advantages to being here, but you don't have to be here.
You really don't.
I guess the challenge is like, where would I go?
It's like, I don't know, middle of nowhere.
There's that free state in Mexico where like a lot of ANCAPs actually go.
And so I say this to a lot of people.
I'm like, listen, man, like I have, I know people who have gone to, I can't remember the name of the state.
Do you guys know the state?
ian crossland
Is that Mexican state?
tim pool
It's that one state that Luke's always talking about.
lydia smith
I used to remember.
ian crossland
It starts with a CH or something?
tim pool
Yeah, something like that.
And it's like they abolished the government and the cartels and got rid of them and now
it's like totally anarchic.
And I know a lot of Americans who are ANCAP who like go down there like this is perfect.
lydia smith
Sharon.
tim pool
Sharon.
Yeah, Luke's always talking about that.
And so I say to the people here, I'm like, go.
I'm not saying to be mean.
I'm saying like that is like a place where you can live the way you want to live and
not have to worry about it.
You know what I mean?
So if you don't want to agree to the rules here, there are places, you know?
Might not be easy to get there initially, but there are places.
You can go and have your own contract, your own agreement.
kenny xu
Well, it's the whole idea of assimilation, you know?
A lot of immigrants...
You know, you always ask, well, what do you give up when you come to America?
I mean, you do get a lot of things as an American when you choose to come here as an immigrant, but you also, you do have to respect your culture and you have to respect American structure.
You know, American structure is very individualistic.
A lot of Chinese immigrants and a lot of immigrants from Asia are not necessarily used to that as much.
You know, you do, if you want to make, if you want to make change in America, you have to speak up.
A lot of Asian cultures are not used to speaking up, especially Chinese Americans who live under communist regimes.
You know, it's like, is it squeaky wheel gets the grease or is it, what's the other analogy?
The loudest thing gets cut or hit.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
kenny xu
You know, so, you know, American culture is different.
Its structure is different.
You do have to assimilate to that if you want to, you know, be well liked in this country.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, here's a good one.
Kimberly Brundle says, I've been listening to Tim telling us to stand up and do something to fight authoritarianism.
It inspired me to run as a candidate for the People's Party of Canada.
You're inspiring Canadians to fight back.
Uh-oh, foreign election interference in Canada.
ian crossland
Globalization is inevitable.
tim pool
The one thing I thought that was really funny about the 2016 election when they were like, forward interference!
And I'm like, Paul Joseph Watson's from the UK and he's talking about Trump, you know?
Milo Yiannopoulos is from the UK and he's here talking about Trump.
ian crossland
I made a video directly to Barack Obama in 2007 saying, you're going to win the presidency, you're going to run for two terms.
And then Steve Grove at YouTube featured it on the politics page.
So like, talk about political interference.
lydia smith
Yeah, what the heck?
unidentified
Like, got tens of thousands of views.
ian crossland
Like, come on.
lydia smith
At least you're an American citizen.
kenny xu
Yeah, it's also like foreign interference.
Are you saying that foreign powers have never interfered in the US elections ever for any reason?
They always interfere.
They love to interfere.
Russia and China are always going to try to interfere.
It's not about foreign interference, it's about what can we do to combat it.
ian crossland
Or embrace it in the guise of the French actually interfering to create the United States.
lydia smith
That was helpful.
tim pool
Whoa, this is crazy.
Block Viking says, Bottega Louie, one of the restaurants you listed, has been in downtown LA since 1929.
Crazy to see it closed down.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Fritter says, dig up the Calvin Coolidge quote on perseverance.
Too long for Super Chat.
A lot of people are questioning our pizza thing.
That's a great point, actually.
says 10 voters, 6 to 4 pepperoni, 4 agree to cede to 6, democracy.
But if the 4 opt to leave the party and get different food and the 6 demand they stay,
pay and eat the pepperoni, that is authoritarianism hiding behind a vote.
That's a great point actually.
kenny xu
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
So a libertarian system would be the four people saying, okay, then we're going to get our own food and not eat your pizza.
And authoritarian would be like, no, you have no choice.
You have to eat our pizza.
lydia smith
And I have to eat pepperoni.
ian crossland
Well, I think, what are you saying?
So six people, or I was gone for the end of this conversation.
tim pool
Six people say we want pineapple, four people- No, four people want pineapple, six want pepperoni.
ian crossland
Let's change it around.
I like pineapple.
unidentified
No, okay, whatever.
So six people want pepperoni, four people want pineapple.
ian crossland
They end up going with pepperoni.
That's authoritarian.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's democratic.
It's democracy.
ian crossland
Democratic authoritarianism.
tim pool
But you can call it the tyranny of the majority.
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's not necessarily tyranny if you agree to that system.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
If you've agreed beforehand, whatever the vote comes out as, we're all going to agree that's the pizza we're going with.
tim pool
But what if one day someone walks in and says, let's get pizza.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Who wants to vote on pizza?
And everyone says, we'll vote on pizza.
And then six say pepperoni and four say pineapple.
And then when they're like pepperoni wins, the pineapple guys go, we're going to order our own pizza and get pineapple.
ian crossland
Well, then you say, that's not what you agreed to.
We let you in here with the agreement that you were going to go with what we decided.
So we decided it.
tim pool
Even if they're going to buy their own.
ian crossland
Welcome to the United States.
Well, no, if you say beforehand, we're going to buy our own, then okay.
But if you want to participate, we're deciding.
tim pool
But hold on, let's add another element to this.
They decide to vote on what pizza to get.
And everyone agrees to vote.
They're all sitting in the house and it says, we're voting on lunch, we always vote on lunch, everyone agrees, that's how we vote on lunch, okay.
Everyone raise your hand for pepperoni, 6-2, everyone raise your hand for pineapple, everyone does.
And then they say, okay, we're ordering pepperoni pizza.
And the four pineapple guys go...
Well, we're going to order our own pizza and get our own pineapple.
And they say, we need you to pitch in for the full price of the pizza.
You agreed.
We do a vote.
You guys lost, but we still need you to pitch in.
Otherwise, we can't get the pizza in the first place.
And they say, yeah, well, we don't want to pay for pizza.
We don't want to eat.
Dude, you are here.
We do this all the time.
We all share.
When you guys got blimpies, we ate that, and we didn't like that either.
Yeah, well, you know what?
We never agreed to this.
OK, then.
There's the door.
Y'all can leave.
No one's making you stay here.
But it's cold outside.
Yeah, but there's no food there.
Okay, but I like being in here.
Then you gotta pitch in, don't you?
We agreed this is how we would vote on what to get we can afford.
One pizza, take it or leave it.
Well, I'm gonna go start my own house.
Then they go outside and some people might, you know, put on that flannel and take an axe and go be a lumberjack and build their own house.
But you know, the funny thing is I talked to a lot of people and they're like, I shouldn't have to pay for this social contract.
And I'm like, then you don't have to get the benefits of being in America.
I'm not saying it to be a dick.
I'm saying it's transactional.
You can go to, uh, what's it called?
Chiron?
lydia smith
Chiron.
Yep.
tim pool
You can go to Chiron.
I hear really, really great things about it.
No, I'm not even kidding.
I really do hear great things about it.
So go somewhere where you won't have this be happening to you instead of just being like, I want to reap the rewards of a society that I refuse to pay for.
Now to be fair, American tax dollars go to a lot of dumb stuff that I'm not happy with.
That's a fair point from people arguing it.
kenny xu
And this is like the case of affirmative action, too, because sometimes you have a really great story, and even though you're not objectively qualified, somebody's going to admit you because of your story.
And that would be more acceptable to me if Harvard College came up to a lesser qualified person of a certain race and said, hey, you're not objectively qualified, but we're going to admit you.
But, you know, we need you to assimilate to our culture and, you know, be grateful.
But instead, what they do is that not only they admit you, they indulge your, you know, every desire with great inflation, everything like that.
They make sure that you pass, you know, and get A pluses in every class.
The average grade at Harvard is an A minus, surprisingly.
Wow.
And it's just...
At that point, you're not engaging in a fair social contract.
At that point, you are incentivizing a person to be a parasite on your school, rather than become a person who becomes fully assimilated into the culture.
lydia smith
Agreed.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
EJ Paido says, Tim, will you commit to attending Mike Lindell's cyber symposium if you can secure an invite?
He has made bold claims of election fraud, and many of us would like to have a reporter there we can trust.
Bannon should be able to set you up.
I do not think I would be able to because with the expansion of Timcast comes great responsibility.
And so there's a lot of people that I have to meet with all the time.
I work literally every single day because even though the weekends I no longer do this show, we're doing the vlog and I'm interviewing people.
One of the main reasons I reduced the amount of content I was producing on a day-to-day basis, which was I used to do five segments on my Timcast channel and now it's down to two.
Because I needed more time to meet with people and strategize and take care of other business.
If my whole day was dedicated to just recording and researching, I had no opportunity to grow.
So then I stopped doing content on the weekends.
I used to do, I think, like three hours on the weekends as well.
No, like two and a half.
And then like four on the weekdays.
Now it's all been reduced quite a bit.
Because on the weekends we fly people out, we do interviews, and we film the vlog.
There's no way I could make it.
However, we actually are hiring more journalists, and we are going to have one of our reporters covering the election issues.
So, I will say, a lot of people who are, you know, like, diehard Trump supporters will probably be disappointed with our coverage.
However, they will not be angry to a certain degree, right?
I see a lot of the stuff that comes out from, like, MSNBC and a lot of these mainstream outlets, and it's just disparaging and poorly framed and everything like that.
No, we're going to be fair, which means airtime for the Republicans, airtime for the Democrats, and the argument.
And so our goal is, here's what the Republicans said, here's what the Democrats said, you decide.
We can only give you the information, we're not going to tell you what to think.
I'm sure that will be satisfactory to many, many people who aren't getting that from the mainstream press, and I'm sure we'll get smeared by the mainstream press for simply entertaining the fact that Republicans have opinions on the matter.
But that's what we'll do.
lydia smith
So he mentioned Steve Bannon.
Steve Bannon has a bunch of reporters who actually go and talk to the people who are conducting these audits and stuff.
So you should turn to Bannon's War Room if you're interested in that kind of thing.
tim pool
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, my friends, if you haven't already, give that like button a little tap, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
You can follow us at TimCast IRL on Facebook and Instagram, at TimCast underscore IRL on TikTok, because we are in all of these places trying to gain influence and win friends.
I can also put it that way.
You can follow me personally at TimCast, and of course we're gonna have a bonus segment coming up at TimCast.com in a little bit.
But, Kenny, is there anything you want to shout out?
Your book, obviously, your social media?
kenny xu
Well, I'm also president of a group called Colorist United.
We advocate for a race-blind America, and that's the ideal that America should be, right?
You know, I understand we've had problems with race regarding to America today, but if any country in the world is going to finally become a country where race doesn't have to matter in a person's life or we
can judge a person just solely as an individual it has to be America because we are the most
diverse country in the nation we have been able to handle this diversity experiment relatively
well so go to coloristunited.org if you're interested in this concept and shoot me a
question or link anything that you want.
unidentified
What was it?
tim pool
Say it one more time.
kenny xu
Color... Color Us United.
tim pool
Color Us United.
kenny xu
ColorUsUnited.org.
tim pool
All right.
ian crossland
And the book, An Inconvenient Minority?
kenny xu
My book, An Inconvenient Minority, The Attack on Asian American Excellence and the Fight for Meritocracy, you can get on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Walmart, wherever books are sold.
tim pool
Buy it because then when it hits a number we got so I'm not gonna say we've take full credit for this.
lydia smith
Yes, we do.
tim pool
Yes, Michael Knowles was like if we had number one, it's because of you guys.
No, it's because you're Michael Knowles's fans.
Keep super chatting us and sneaking in shouting out.
ian crossland
I thought it was gonna be true and not a Shabbat a speechless.
tim pool
I will say though.
I'm extremely proud of when I read the super chat where it told the Amazon robot to order speechless and smart and then people were like I went to my Amazon shopping cart and the book was in there.
Buy it!
But you guys definitely should buy An Inconvenient Minority because when this reaches number one on Amazon, and it should, hopefully, or when it rises in the ranks, people see it.
It's free advertising, so it's like a snowball rolling down a hill.
And then when people are wondering what this is and they read it, they'll start to understand what's wrong with this critical race applied principles in our schools.
ian crossland
Thank you, Tim.
Thank you, Kenny.
kenny xu
Thank you, Tim.
Appreciate it.
ian crossland
You guys can follow me at IanCrosland.net and on social media, Ian Crosland.
Thanks again.
lydia smith
I want to read this Calvin Coolidge quote because it actually is super good and I see why it's too long.
Okay, so I'll try to make it quick.
It says, nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not.
Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not.
Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not.
The world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
The slogan, press on, has solved and always will solve the problem of the human race.
I actually really like that quote, long as it is.
Wow.
So that's an excellent summary of Tim's idea about grit and the studies that they've conducted about that.
tim pool
Right on.
lydia smith
You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Kids.
Excuse me!
unidentified
Almost!
Oh no!
lydia smith
I'm going to give them more followers.
You may follow me at Sour Patch Lids.
Do not follow Sour Patch Kids because I want more followers than they have.
It's my only goal in life right now.
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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