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May 15, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Democrat Starts Fight Over REFUSING To Remove Mask w/Janice Dean
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tim pool
The new mask guidelines are out.
If you've gotten your vaccine, your full vaccine, you don't gotta wear a mask anymore, and something weird has happened.
Democrats and leftist personalities don't want to take their masks off, and this resulted in almost... I want to call it a fight.
I was fighting with myself, like, should we say fight?
Because basically, a staffer for Marjorie Taylor Greene yells to Eric Swalwell, you know, Democrat from the Bay Area, Biden says you can take your mask off, and then Swalwell gets in his face and says, don't you tell me what to effing do!
And then all of a sudden, everyone's like, oh, it's huge news, they're fighting.
And then Swalwell's like, don't bully people who wear masks.
And I just find it very, very strange how tribal the whole thing is.
But this is, it's a bigger story just beyond the mask thing, because as many of you know, there are real serious ramifications for the COVID restrictions, the people who've been arrested.
People whose businesses have been shut down, and more importantly, the people who lost their lives, not just from the pandemic, but the people who were literally killed by Andrew Cuomo, and many of these other governors who were warned not to put sick people into these nursing homes.
So we've got a lot to talk about.
A lot of it's gonna be a bit serious.
We're gonna talk about these guidelines, where we're currently at, and what's going on with the Cuomo thing, because, my friends, I mean, it looks like he's getting away with it.
We have a very special guest.
We have the legendary Janice Dean hanging out.
You don't want me to mention a title or anything so you can introduce yourself.
janice dean
I'm just Janice Dean and I'm happy to be here.
tim pool
But people are going to want to know what you do.
janice dean
I'm the weather person.
I'm the meteorologist, the broadcast meteorologist on Fox and Friends and I've been at Fox now for 18 years.
unidentified
Wow!
janice dean
Right.
And so that's my primary job, although I am in Baltimore for the Preakness for the horse race.
unidentified
Cool.
janice dean
Because I love watching the horses.
And there's a controversy right now.
I don't know if you've read the news about Bob Baffert, who has the Kentucky Derby winner.
Medina Spirit.
He is probably the legendary trainer when it comes to horse training.
He's had two triple crowns.
He's had the most wins in terms of Kentucky Derby winners, Medina Spirit.
And the latest news is Medina Spirit did not pass a drug test after the Kentucky Derby.
There was a very, very, very small amount of, I think it's like a cortosteroid or... Corticosteroid?
Corticosteroid.
unidentified
Yeah.
Very good.
Yes.
janice dean
I remembered.
In the bloodstream after the race.
And so... Like immediately after?
Well, I guess they did a test right after.
And they had done tests beforehand.
But in Kentucky, that particular state, that substance is banned.
But in other states, it's not.
tim pool
Interesting.
lydia smith
Interesting.
janice dean
So the big deal was that the horse is drugged, or that's what the media wants to tell you.
tim pool
We should talk about it.
janice dean
We should talk about it.
tim pool
There's a more serious topic, though, that I don't know if you want to mention immediately having to do with Cuomo.
janice dean
We can.
tim pool
You don't want to be as strong as I did when I talk about Cuomo literally killing people.
janice dean
Well, it's interesting that you say that because I, you know, I get a little bit nervous about it.
I don't know if we can prove that he has killed all these people.
I will tell you as someone who has relatives, my husband's parents were in separate elder care facilities.
They both died of COVID and not hearing the fact that the governor was putting over 9,000 COVID positive patients into nursing homes.
We weren't hearing that on television.
The nursing homes didn't tell us that.
So I became vocal when I kept seeing the governor on CNN with his brother and the Cuomo Brothers Comedy Hour not talking about the nursing home issues and instead, you know, talking about the LoveGov and the fact that he has a book coming out and Somebody threw a big banner over a highway.
tim pool
Cuomo killed my mother.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Something like that.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
So we'll get into all that.
And that's a serious topic for sure.
janice dean
Thank you for having me.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Ian, he's chilling.
ian crossland
I do not have an Emmy like Cuomo does.
But yes, I am here.
tim pool
Or a book on how to effectively manage a pandemic.
ian crossland
Not yet.
tim pool
In the middle of failing to manage a pandemic.
ian crossland
I haven't written one of those yet.
janice dean
You could.
ian crossland
Maybe I will, actually.
Let's have a conversation.
janice dean
I think you'd actually be better at managing a pandemic than him.
tim pool
I agree.
I mean, yeah.
janice dean
Anybody would.
unidentified
Right.
janice dean
A five-year-old.
ian crossland
It's just, it's this cult.
Oh, that's my chair.
You sure?
Yeah, I was rubbing.
It's rubber.
It's the, it's the, it's the, I don't know, what would you call it?
Nepotism?
The name Cuomo got these guys jobs, I feel like.
I don't, I don't necessarily think he's that great.
janice dean
And he says he's not part of that whole political system.
He says that he's not part of being a Cuomo in the political world.
tim pool
Yeah.
We'll tell them what for.
janice dean
Okay.
tim pool
We got Lydia pressing buttons.
lydia smith
I am pushing buttons in the corner.
I'm so excited to have this lady.
We had a great drive from Baltimore.
It was a lot of fun just chatting and I'm excited for this conversation.
tim pool
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Before we go absolutely nuclear, I wanted to kind of warm up a little bit, because, like, talking about Cuomo killing a bunch of people is pretty intense.
janice dean
That is.
tim pool
So we have this story about the CDC guidelines and the masks.
And I guess the big news is that a mask dispute prompts heated exchange between Rep.
Swalwell and Marjorie Taylor Greene, aide.
Swalwell said the aide yelled at him, demanding he take his mask off.
So, quote, I told the bully what I thought of his order.
All right.
First of all, there was a reporter there, I think, for The Hill.
I'm not sure.
Who said that Marjorie Taylor Greene's staffer said, Biden says you can take your mask off.
That's what the reporter said.
And then Swalwell got in his face, said, don't you tell me what to effing do.
And then he went on Twitter and said, don't bully people who are wearing masks or something.
Now we see this tweet from David Hogg.
I don't know if you saw this.
unidentified
I have not.
tim pool
David Hogg said, I feel the need to continue wearing my mask outside even though I'm fully
vaccinated because the inconvenience of having to wear a mask is more than worth it to have
people not think I'm a conservative. I want to throw the masks in the garbage.
janice dean
Burn the masks!
tim pool
I mean, yeah, it's done, isn't it?
janice dean
I feel that way.
I mean, didn't Biden just say yesterday that we could take them off?
unidentified
Right?
janice dean
In certain... You got your vaccine.
I did have the vaccine.
Are we going to talk about the...
tim pool
Oh, ladies and gentlemen, because we are the bastion of real journalism, we were talking before the show with Janice about these silly videos where people have magnets and they put them on their arms.
And then you suggested it.
Like, should we try it?
I'm like, if you want to put a magnet on your arm.
So we're going to debunk these ridiculous videos in real time with Janice Dean, who has a magnet, and you're going to put it on your arm.
janice dean
Yeah.
I did have the the Pfizer vaccine.
unidentified
I don't feel it like it's just going to do anything.
janice dean
OK, I think that's where they put it, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
On the arm.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Shoulder.
janice dean
Let's just just in case it was this arm, because I don't.
tim pool
Well, you got to let go.
Oh, it's going to it just it just.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
tim pool
People are going to screenshot it like that proves it.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Yeah, and what should be surprising to absolutely no one, people's arms are not magnetized by getting a vaccine.
janice dean
But how many people watched that video?
tim pool
Yeah, I think they went fairly viral.
People believe absolutely crazy stuff.
And it's a bummer.
You know, we have a lot of guests come through here.
A lot of them are Trump supporters.
A lot of them don't like the idea of emergency authorization or vaccine passports.
But a lot of them got the vaccine and are like, look, there's a difference between you having a choice to go out and decide what you want to do, what's best for you, and then having the government say what you have to do, or having now, back to the mask topic, In New York City, New York State, Cuomo's like, we're not going to release the mask mandate.
janice dean
It's control.
It's because he wants to control it.
Right?
Don't tell me what to do.
If you see some of his press conferences and you tell him, well, you said, don't tell me I said that, even though he probably said that.
tim pool
It's funny because he's saying, don't tell me what to do, while we're saying, don't tell me what to do.
It's the difference of, he's not saying, don't tell me what to do, in a sense.
He's saying, don't tell me what to do with my kingdom, my subjects.
janice dean
Remember when the vaccines first came out?
He didn't want them because they were under Trump.
He basically said, no, no, we don't have any proof these vaccines work.
And so therefore, I don't believe in them.
tim pool
This is the funniest thing about the vaccine thing to me is that I find most conservatives, you know, if you look at like Ben Shapiro, their main talking point is the government shouldn't force people to do it and vaccine passports are overreached.
But you have a lot of people, some of the staunchest Trump supporters who are very much anti like vaccine.
I don't think it's necessarily necessarily fair to say anti-vaxxer in the sense that most of the criticism is with it's a new mRNA is new.
It's emergency use.
And I think it's fair for people to say, you know, I'll talk to my doctor.
I'll decide what's best for me.
But there's there's a decent amount of people who are supporting Donald Trump and demanding he get credit for Operation Warp Speed for getting the vaccine done and then going like, I'm not taking that crazy thing.
Are you nuts?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's not everybody, but it exists, alright?
And then you have people on the left who are like, the whole time, what was it, I think Kamala Harris, Cuomo, were critical, saying, oh no, you know, we don't have the research for this, we're not gonna do it.
Now that Biden's president, they're all giving him a standing ovation, congratulations on the vaccine, good sir, and they're not mentioning Trump at all.
janice dean
Of course not.
It was even brought up in a press conference the other day where someone said to Cuomo, well, the fact that you don't, that people don't want to get the vaccine, don't you attribute that to in the beginning you saying that you didn't believe in the vaccine?
Oh, I didn't say that.
tim pool
Some of these people, man.
I gotta say, credit where credit is due, Gretchen Whitmer said the CDC said we're lifting the mask mandates, so we're lifting the mask mandates.
Cuomo was like, no!
He's obstinate.
It's about tribe.
It's about power.
It's about... I wonder if... I mean, he's the older brother, isn't he?
Does he have an older brother than, you know?
janice dean
No, I don't think so.
They have a sister, and they have Chris, the younger brother.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm wondering if, like, he was looked over as a child, so he's desperate to assert his power to, like, prove something to somebody.
Like, why can't these people be chill about it?
Eh, the CDC said do it, you know, whatever, alright, fine.
janice dean
I think he's always been like that.
I really do think that he wanted to be president someday.
the fact that his dad never got to be president, I think he kind of took it upon himself to think
that, well, since my dad never got there, I need to go there. And for a while, people were calling
him maybe an alternative to Biden. Did you see the t-shirts that say
tim pool
Cuomo sexual on them? Oh my gosh.
Yeah, people went a little overboard.
Can we get one of those?
unidentified
Just one.
janice dean
I can't like you anymore.
ian crossland
Make sure it's a small.
tim pool
I can't like you anymore.
janice dean
He even wrote about it in that stupid book.
The leadership book.
He wrote about the cuomosexuals.
tim pool
Did he use the word?
He did.
janice dean
Of course he did.
lydia smith
Physically painful.
tim pool
I love how he's writing a book about his success in the pandemic while he's literally killing people.
janice dean
I thought it was a joke when that report came out that he was working on a book, a leadership book, in the middle of a pandemic when thousands of elderly were dying in nursing homes.
I thought it was like The Onion or one of those joke websites.
Yeah, but he was actually doing that.
tim pool
You've seen the Babylon Bee, I'm sure.
Imagine how perfect that headline would have been.
Governor writes a book on his successes with the pandemic while killing 50,000 people.
janice dean
Well, here's the thing, though.
tim pool
Yeah, while killing 50,000 people.
janice dean
Well here's the thing though.
I think that book is going to be his downfall.
They could use that book in a court of law.
There are so many lies in it.
unidentified
Wow.
janice dean
Yeah.
I mean, he lied about the nursing home thing.
I mean, the fact that they covered up the amount of deaths in the nursing homes for so long and how that was debunked by the New York Times, that there is all sorts of information from his health department.
They were going to release the numbers for many months, but we were asking for the total number of deaths while he was writing that book, while he was trying to sell that $4 million book.
So the fact that he went above and beyond his health department and told them not to release the accurate amount of numbers during that time.
ian crossland
Does that confirm that he told them not to?
janice dean
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, it was covering it up.
He was warned by these nursing home experts, if you do this, you will kill people.
And he was like, okay.
janice dean
Well, I think we have to find out the origins of the March 25th order.
Why was it written?
And not only him, you mentioned Whitmer.
She had almost the identical mandate.
tim pool
Did Tom Wolfe as well?
janice dean
Tom Wolfe and New Jersey, Murphy and Gavin Newsom.
Yep.
tim pool
Maybe they just all got together on a Zoom call and were like, let's kill people.
janice dean
Well, I would like to get to the bottom of it.
I mean, there are several investigations right now.
There's a federal investigation.
There's an FBI investigation.
There's a DOJ investigation that started under Trump.
Good.
I'm grateful to Bill Barr for starting that because that's the one that got him all freaked out when they found out that the DOJ was doing an investigation into nursing homes and that's when they realized, oh my gosh, they want accurate numbers and that's when his top aide, Melissa DeRosa, In a meeting with Democratic lawmakers, closed door said, well, we froze and we didn't want to, you know, we didn't want to give the information out because, you know, that that would prove that that maybe we had something to hide.
tim pool
They were.
Wasn't it that they knew it would result in an investigation?
janice dean
Of course.
tim pool
They were worried that Trump would use it to launch an investigation.
janice dean
That's right.
tim pool
They obfuscated the numbers.
janice dean
And that's why she took a bunch of Democratic lawmakers into a closed door meeting to say, I'm really sorry we didn't tell you, but You know, we couldn't put more fire into this situation because, you know, we didn't want people to freak out.
lydia smith
And what they tried to spin it as was they didn't want the Trump administration to politicize these numbers.
unidentified
Right.
janice dean
That he's blamed everyone.
He has blamed God and Mother Nature and the Trump administration.
At one point, he blamed the old people because they're old and they're going to die.
tim pool
Wow.
And think about the context when he was like, you know, Donald Trump would have used this.
I mean, he should have.
The people should have known what you were doing so they can vote against it, because I'm sure they would have been upset about it.
You know what gets me, though, is like, why did the New York Times go against Cuomo?
What happened?
I mean, they were Cuomo sexual.
And then all of a sudden they were like, down with Cuomo.
Because not just this story, all of a sudden all these accusations started popping up against him.
janice dean
But he's still going.
I mean, every time I think that there is another, you know, You know, actually, every time there was a new woman coming forward with some of these sexual harassment allegations, he would start to lift restrictions.
Like, okay, you know what?
Restaurants, you can have 75% of people to come in.
And you know, now he's trying to open up New York again.
tim pool
Just take them off!
People have mentioned that with Joe Biden as well.
It's been a really bad week.
Inflation is freaking everybody out.
Conflict in the Middle East.
Whitmer wants to shut down a gas pipeline while another gas pipeline was hacked, and
there's gas shortages even right now, and then Biden comes out, you can take your mask
janice dean
off.
tim pool
Just take them off.
unidentified
Yeah, hey.
tim pool
Hey, everybody.
That changed the news cycle real quick.
Now the top story on a bunch of websites is Swalwell fighting with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
They got us distracted a little bit, I gotta admit.
But, yeah, so but why did the New York Times all of a sudden just come out and be like,
No Cuomo.
janice dean
The AG report, New York's Attorney General Letitia James, who is a Democrat, released a report in January that basically did the investigation to what we've all wanted, which was the accurate number of deaths in nursing homes.
He wasn't counting those that died in the hospital, like my mother-in-law, for example.
She got COVID in her assisted living residence.
She died in the hospital, but her number did not count.
He was the only governor that didn't count those that died in the hospital.
And you can imagine if you're not counting those, that's going to be a significant percentage of numbers you're not admitting to.
So Letitia James did her own document, 76 pages, that basically said, He was hiding the numbers.
And that's when the dam began to crack.
And that's when you started to realize that maybe he does have enemies in his own party.
tim pool
Well, is Letitia progressive?
janice dean
There are thoughts that maybe she wants to run for governor someday, but I'll tell you this much, I don't care what the reasoning is.
I don't care what brings him down either.
People say to me, well, what if it's all these women coming forward?
Doesn't matter to me.
As long as something eventually brings him down.
And the fact that there are investigations into the nursing home issue and more people know about it, you know, I feel like I'm on the side of the angels and hopefully, you know, good will prevail.
tim pool
You know what would be great?
If Ocasio-Cortez wins the governorship because Cuomo gets knocked out.
Wouldn't that be amazing?
I don't know who should run to remain in space.
ian crossland
Amazing, like a unicorn pooping rainbows.
Like, it's terrifying.
tim pool
I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people in the country that would be like, Governor Ocasio-Cortez would be amazing.
I'm kidding.
It would be amazing, not in the positive sense, just like I'd be amazed if that would happen.
But man, the Democratic Party is just like knives out.
janice dean
Do you think a Republican has a shot at being the governor of New York?
tim pool
I mean, I want to say yes, just because of how awful everything's been.
Yes.
And if Cuomo, I'm assuming he can run for re-election, right?
janice dean
Yes, fourth term, 2022.
tim pool
Yeah, so is there going to be any Democrat powerful enough to knock him out and primary
him or something?
I don't know, maybe.
If it's possible for a Republican to win in New York, I bet it's possible for someone
to primary Cuomo.
With New York City, I'd imagine they probably could get rid of him.
You know, they're all gonna vote against him.
But who could it be, I guess, is the question.
Who's got the charisma to actually run?
If they don't replace Cuomo because they don't have a strong enough candidate, then I think a Republican could probably win because the rest of New York State's gonna be like, just enough already.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know what that would mean, though.
I mean, that'd be kind of crazy, right?
When was the last time New York had a... Pataki?
When was that?
janice dean
Gosh, well, that was before him.
unidentified
Right.
janice dean
And Cuomo's been in power for three terms.
So before that, that was... So not that long ago.
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So then, yeah, I guess so.
lydia smith
It's possible.
janice dean
It is possible.
tim pool
Well, did you see what, uh, who tweeted this?
Was it Robert Reich or whatever his name is?
Where he was like, no, maybe it wasn't.
Somebody said that 2022 is the battle for the soul.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, it was someone I didn't recognize.
tim pool
Yeah, some guy.
And he was like, it's the fight to prove whether or not this country falls to white supremacy or something.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, shut up.
You said that about 2020 and 2018 and 2016.
Every single, every two years.
But I have to wonder, the Democrats have a very thin grasp of power right now.
I mean, the House, it's like 11 seats.
The Senate is literally no seats.
They just have a tiebreaker with Kamala.
So if what we're seeing now with the ratings on these more progressive outlets, the ratings with CNN and MSNBC going down, the Democrats have gone back to sleep.
The voter base is like disinterested now that Trump is gone.
The conservatives, the anti-woke, the anti-critical race theory types, the disaffected liberals, they're active.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
So come 2022, I think we could see a big push for the Republicans to take control of everything.
janice dean
What do you think about Gavin Newsom?
tim pool
I think he's awful.
janice dean
Yeah, I do too.
But do you think that they have enough to get rid of him?
tim pool
Oh man, what's the option?
Caitlyn Jenner?
janice dean
Right now, right?
tim pool
Right. Yeah. Who else was going to run like Randy Quaid mentioned he was going to run
or something. I don't know. Well it's a runoff right. Or it's a recall election which means
anyone can put their name in the ring or whatever and then they need a certain threshold to
win. Right. The problem right now is you know throw it back like the mask stuff. Tribalism
very clearly controls everything.
So Caitlyn Jenner is taboo.
All of these people who came out and celebrated Caitlyn Jenner saying, you're brave, we respect you, you're amazing and powerful, all of a sudden now are like, you're evil and wrong and we must resist.
They're gonna support Gavin Newsom simply because of the tribe they're in.
It's the Democrats, gotta vote Democrat no matter what, gotta wear a mask, doesn't matter what the CDC says.
So Gavinism might win?
janice dean
Do you think most people would take off their mask?
tim pool
Yes, I do.
I do.
Because... You know what?
Actually, let me slow down and say it's tough.
I think in the cities, people are... Man, they are indoctrinated.
I don't know if indoctrinate is the right word, but they are very... Terrified.
Terrified.
I mean, it's a better way to put it.
janice dean
But terrified of what exactly?
tim pool
COVID?
ian crossland
Yeah.
janice dean
Still?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Seems like it.
tim pool
I mean, you look at that tweet from David Hogg.
He's like, I don't want people to think I'm a conservative, so I'm gonna keep wearing a mask.
It's like, okay, dude, whatever.
Regular people are gonna take their masks off.
janice dean
It's freedom.
tim pool
Yeah, but even out here, so we're in the part of Maryland where it meets West Virginia and Virginia.
We have the Appalachian Trail over here.
I was riding my bike down there and I saw people, you're in the middle of the woods.
You're in the middle of the woods in West Virginia.
And there's like a guy running wearing a mask.
And I'm like, if you want to, fine.
Like, I'm not gonna say anything about it.
ian crossland
Like high altitude training?
tim pool
I guess.
ian crossland
Takes more energy to breathe, so you get stronger.
tim pool
If the logic of the mask was always, you don't want to spit on somebody.
And I'm like, and you're in the middle of the woods.
If he had it around his neck and he was running and he saw me and he pulled it up, I'd be like, I get it.
ian crossland
Maybe you guys can help me here.
I'm confused.
Bill Maher got the vaccine, then he got COVID.
He just got it.
Came out yesterday and said that.
And so he's not doing his show.
tim pool
It's like the first time in his career he's missed a show.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what he was saying.
Okay, so apparently if you get the vaccine you can still get COVID, obviously, Bill Maher.
Is it that you're less likely to give it to someone if you have received the vaccine?
No.
That's not the case.
tim pool
It's that your body can quickly fight off the infection without causing you to go through the disease, the symptoms.
ian crossland
So you're less likely to get symptoms.
An asymptomatic spread is possible or is not possible?
I don't remember.
tim pool
I don't know.
janice dean
I'm not a doctor.
ian crossland
That's something we should probably know, having gone through a pandemic.
tim pool
Well, it's just it's just that there's been conflicting reports.
So that's why I'm always just like, you know, for a lot of things, if someone told me, like, what do I do if I break my arm?
I'd be like, OK, well, I'm not a doctor.
Said it.
If someone if someone asked for, like, first aid advice, OK, I've done hostile environment training.
I can give you some general first aid advice.
But this stuff is contentious, tribal.
I just say talk to a doctor to figure out what makes sense.
And what happened with Bill Maher, he got sick, but he's asymptomatic because he's been vaccinated.
So you can still get it, but you're not going to die from it.
ian crossland
So I guess the people that got vaccinated, they still think there's a chance they might get it and that people might asymptomatically spread it, so they're putting the mask on just to be safe.
tim pool
I mean, honestly, I don't know.
I think people just don't know and they're scared.
janice dean
I think you're right.
I think this whole time, most people did not know what was happening.
tim pool
They don't, well, I think the big divide between, you know, in the culture war is what I refer to as the uninitiated and the initiated.
The people who pay attention to politics, who watch the videos, and the people who just passively hear things.
So, if you're following a lot of this news, you've got a much more, you're probably a lot more relaxed about everything.
Because you've seen the reports, you've seen the numbers in Texas and Florida going down, you've seen Fauci's statements, and you're probably like, okay, I think we're gonna be alright.
And if you don't pay attention, all you see is masks everywhere and warning signs and street closures and cities shut down.
So you're really scared about it.
I think a good example is like Kyle Rittenhouse, where if you follow, you know, we've had Richie McGinnis here numerous times, and I don't know if you're familiar, he's the journalist who was actually there and actually rendered aid to the men.
So he tells us what happens and we get a clear picture and we're like, oh, that's really interesting.
But then I hear from people who don't pay attention to the news.
Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun across state lines and did all these things, like none of which is true.
So they're angry and they have this distorted view of things.
A lot of my friends, like I have a really good friend of mine who's like, I want to come and visit, but you know, I'm really worried about traveling and I'm just like, whatever makes sense for you.
And they're like, once I get my vaccine, you know, I'll think if I could, I'll figure out if I can do it or not.
And I'm like, it's by all means.
In terms of the show, I'll give you a better example.
I'll just mention the people. There's a very famous leftist, Hassan Piker. He's got one of
the biggest Twitch shows. He's got a big YouTube channel.
And he's one of the most prominent, I think he's a democratic socialist. I don't want to label
people.
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
But I tweeted, it's very difficult for us to get leftists on this show
because they just refuse to do it.
They're scared of being cancelled, I don't know.
And then I had two personalities, one of which was Hasan, and they quote-tweeted me saying, I'll come on your show.
And I was like, fantastic.
Dude, I mean, signing on the show would be awesome.
I'd be so excited for that.
He's a popular leftist.
We'd have great conversation.
We'd probably disagree on a lot of things.
And I said, we'll pay for your travel.
Let me know what dates are good for you.
And then he messaged me and said, oh, bro, COVID.
I can't travel.
Not to be fair, this was last year when, you know, this was like, I think around August or whatever, people were a lot more worried.
Tons of, basically every single leftist we reached out to said, because of COVID, I won't travel.
ian crossland
Last night I was looking.
tim pool
Real quick, every single conservative personality was like, where and when?
No questions, no issues.
And I would say a decent amount of the conservatives who come, Got their vaccine.
A decent amount didn't.
And they say, I'll take responsibility for myself.
And for most of it, I would say we followed all the guidelines.
It wasn't that crazy out here to follow the guidelines.
We have like hand sanitizer.
We restrict how many people come in.
Not hard to do.
And conservatives didn't seem to have an issue with it.
But people on the left, mortified.
ian crossland
I was looking at Mote St.
Michelle.
It's it's an abbey in France.
Have you ever heard of this place?
It's like on an island.
It was this duchy of like Normandy.
And it's this beautiful, giant island monastery.
And I was like, oh, I want to go there.
I can just go there for a weekend and check it out.
unidentified
And then I was like, oh, yeah, covid.
ian crossland
I just what a hassle.
Like you got to.
I don't even know what France's regulations are standing in line, being around them in my mask.
Am I vaccinated?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Like I just gave it all up.
I can't.
I feel like I can't even travel because you can't.
janice dean
We went to Aruba a couple weeks ago with my family.
We had to jump through hoops to do it, but I was like, you know what?
I'm done.
You know, we've had a terrible year with loss in our family.
You know, you talk about us in COVID, but the kids, my children, 12 years old, 10 years old, wearing those masks in school.
when there's hardly any risk for them to get it.
Going outside for a 10 minute mask break, not being able to socialize with their friends,
having plastic around their desks, it is soul crushing.
tim pool
I think what people need to realize about their kids too is that I think, you know, we're all a bit older.
So for us, we've experienced so much, our personalities have formed, we've become mature adults.
To someone who's 10 years old, a day is a lot longer.
Because they're forming these experiences, they're developing into the people they'll become in the future.
So when you take a year, which is a tenth of a 10-year-old's life, 10% of their life, and you turn it into this thing, that's going to affect them for the rest of their lives.
janice dean
I know it has.
My 10-year-old, I feel it.
I know it.
Every day, you know, Mom, when is it over?
This is the worst year of my life.
Yes!
Yes!
I mean, and it manifests itself in different ways.
You know, we had a, we had this little fish, this beta fish for like eight months and we loved it.
And the beta fish unfortunately died.
But my Theodore, the 10 year old has been so upset over that fish.
And I know that obviously as a young kid going through something like that and as a loss,
but I know it's magnified by all of this that we're going through.
You know, the deaths in our family, yes, but the fact that he can't be a normal kid, I
mean, he's going to remember this for the rest of his life.
It's just a year that they have lost.
And the teacher thing.
I mean, you know, I haven't talked about this a lot, but, you know, my 10-year-old had an
issue with the online learning.
He just was not able to really process the information through the iPad, and it was getting to the point where he wasn't learning anything.
And so we put him in Catholic school because they were going to school.
The teachers were there.
They were in person.
And we made that decision because he just was having such a hard time doing this remote learning.
And I talked to so many parents that are worried about their kids that went through a year of this that really didn't learn much of anything.
tim pool
Yeah.
janice dean
And it's so disappointing.
I mean, you know, I love our teachers.
It really is a noble profession.
Right.
But the ones that, you know, didn't get vaccinated or continue to not go into schools.
Well, why are you why are you a teacher then?
tim pool
Have you have you been concerned at all with critical race theory in the schools?
janice dean
Of course.
Of course.
tim pool
Have you seen anything like that?
janice dean
You know, I haven't, uh, I, I worry, um, you know, listen, I grew up, I grew up in Canada and you know, I, my best friend was Indian and, but I never, you know, looked at that.
I never looked at her by the color of her skin.
I would go over to her house and I would, I would love to learn about her traditions and her family.
Uh, and you know, now, nowadays it would be like, well, you have to, you have to acknowledge the color of her skin.
And I am of the belief that, you know what?
I want to be colorblind.
I don't want to, you know, judge somebody by my color or their color.
You know, and I know that that's taboo to say that these days.
tim pool
Isn't that the progressive position from the era of civil rights?
That's what they wanted.
And now the kids are going to school.
I bring this up just because you mentioned, you know, the iPad learning stuff and a lot of parents were finally seeing their kids were learning this crazy racist and not just racist stuff.
Critical theory in general encompasses all aspects of identity.
And then decided to send their kids to private schools, to Catholic schools.
janice dean
So I was curious if that... No, but I will say that that has been one thing that we've been able to see online.
Watching these online courses, you see these teachers, how they really are.
We're lucky because I believe that in our school district, they're in it for the right reasons.
But man, the stuff that you are seeing, some of the parents that are calling out these teachers, I mean, unbelievable.
So maybe that's a silver... I mean, that's the wrong word, silver lining, but maybe that is something that we're now paying attention to because of this.
tim pool
Oh, good point.
You know, a lot of people don't like to say something like this, but you know, when God closes the door, he opens a window or something like that.
There's always, you know, you look on the brighter side, things like that.
People don't want to say that because the pandemic's been so brutal to a lot of people, but it's never just black and white.
If there's something that came out of this that could be, at least in some way, considered to be beneficial, it's that parents got a warning.
about what was going on, teachers were freaking out.
Early on in the pandemic, there was a viral video where one teacher was saying,
we have to make sure the parents don't hear what they're telling their kids.
How do we deal with this?
These Zoom meetings are so bad because the parents are now figuring out
we're teaching their kids this crazy stuff.
That's creepy.
The parents should get a pamphlet being like, here's what we teach your kids.
And the parents should be able to go to their kids and say, what did you learn today?
Apparently they're being told, don't tell your parents I told you this.
Creepy indoctrination.
janice dean
The one thing that I will say that I will remember this past year is
I've been at home.
Since for a year now, I've been doing weather in a spare bedroom in my house.
They made a green screen.
I never thought it was possible.
A few years ago, people would say, Why don't you just build a green screen in your house and you don't have to go in and do the weather anymore?
And I thought, oh, that's never going to happen.
Well, here we are.
The one thing that I will say is just being at home and seeing my kids every day.
That's something that's been very special to me.
You know, I'll love this year for that very reason, just to be connected to them.
ian crossland
Working from home is incredible.
I started in 2012 and never look back.
I can't Ever.
We tried the office thing a little bit.
But what?
The commute?
I mean, an hour a day?
Two hours a day?
Come on.
What a waste of hours, in my opinion.
janice dean
I love it.
I do.
I mean, I miss going in and, you know, seeing my friends and my co-workers.
But I'll be honest, if I could do this for the rest of my career, I probably would.
tim pool
But you would go out and talk to people on the street, too, and everything.
janice dean
Yeah, of course.
I do miss that.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
I do.
janice dean
Yeah.
I hope that we get back to that.
ian crossland
Regarding kids that are having trouble learning, like you were talking about, I think it was your son earlier.
Do you know if, are the schools being like lenient about this?
Are they passing kids through without getting good grades?
janice dean
That's a good question.
I think some are.
I really think this has been a lost year for a lot of children.
I really think that some kids should, you know, go through the same grade again.
I mean, I don't think that that will happen, but I saw, you know, my child go through this just, you know, Trying to focus on the screen and not being, you know, my, Theodore is somebody that needs to be interactive with people and have someone in front of him sort of, you know, showing him.
Um, so I, I really think that I had to do the right thing and get him back into school because that's the way he learns the best.
tim pool
And it's a private Catholic school, so you're probably getting, I'm not trying to disparage public schools, but I imagine it's better.
janice dean
In some ways, yeah.
I mean, my other son is still in the public school, but he had no problem sort of doing that transition at home.
So I have one in the public school, which I love.
I was brought up in the public school system.
But for my other son, who needed to have that interaction, and I will say the Catholic schools did it better.
lydia smith
Do you think that this whole Zoom thing has been harder on boys?
Because I know they have such a greater like level of energy than girls.
janice dean
I think that there might be something to that but you know I'm not a psychologist but I'm sure that you know they could probably tell you.
I'm sure they'll be doing studies after this.
tim pool
They're saying no more snow days anymore.
janice dean
As a person who does the weather, boo!
ian crossland
What's that all about?
tim pool
Snow day, right?
You're in school and it snows and you're sitting there staring at the news.
So when I was a kid, we didn't use the internet.
You know, back in my day, we had the TV, and it would be snowing, and it would be a couple inches, we'd have the TV on, and they'd be announcing school closures, and we'd be like, come on!
And then they'd say, you know, Mark Twain Elementary, yes!
And then we'd run outside and make snowballs and throw them.
Now they're like, and the schools that will be doing remote learning today in the storm will be... Can I tell you a secret?
janice dean
That happened with my kids, and I was like, you're You're off sick today.
lydia smith
I love it.
ian crossland
That'd be cool if they gave kids like one day a month that they just didn't have to go in or something.
janice dean
That's a great idea.
tim pool
But they do.
I mean, there's holidays.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
But like the kid's choice, a kid's choice day or something.
janice dean
That's a great idea.
I think we need more of that.
tim pool
Actually, maybe more than one.
Maybe like five and non-consecutive days where the kid can choose to take a, you know, a permitted absence.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
But they still have to do the homework or whatever.
janice dean
So, getting on to this tangent, we talked about the fact that I took my family to Aruba, and it was great, but I will tell you, just going through the hoops of the COVID tests, getting the COVID tests beforehand, Then going to the airport and having to check your luggage and going up to the ticket counter and them checking your documentation to show that you got the COVID test.
And then, you know, if you don't have it online, my husband had it online and they were like, no, we need to see the paperwork.
And thank goodness he did the paperwork because they didn't want to do the online thing.
So you're in line for two hours, you know, socially distancing to get onto the flight.
We went through like, Several security checkpoints to show them our documentation to get on the plane.
You finally get on the plane, then you arrive in Aruba.
And the same thing, you've got to show the people at the airport that you have your documentation and then they give you passes so that when you get to the hotel, you have to show them the pass that you got at the airport to prove that you had your COVID test.
Oh, it was, I mean, listen, it was lovely that we were there and we were able to go to a beautiful place for a few days with our family.
But the hoops that you had to go through, and I think a lot of it is political theater.
tim pool
I'm lucky.
I'm grateful.
I get to travel around the world before all these lockdowns and everything.
You know, in the past 10 years, I've been to dozens upon dozens of countries that a lot of people aren't gonna be able to do anymore.
I mean, it's not just about getting the tests.
Some of these places require you to spend like two weeks in a hotel and like two grand up front.
janice dean
People aren't gonna be able to travel.
I haven't seen my mom in over a year and a half because she lives in Canada still and it's not good there.
She was in lockdown very recently because she lives in Ontario and the numbers were going up so they basically said you were housebound for a month.
We do the Zoom time and stuff with her but I mean, I worry about, you know, her not getting out.
You know, she's almost 80 years old and she's a fit 80 year old.
And the other thing about Canada is that they have been terrible with the vaccines.
Terrible.
My mom just got her first dose and she's almost 80 years old.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
What was the problem?
janice dean
The Canadian government.
tim pool
You don't say!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't seem to be doing all that well.
janice dean
No, I mean a lot of people... I think Canada and their health care system needs to be more of a story here in the US to be honest with you.
I have MS.
I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis 16 years ago and a story that I tell people is that I was actually Almost diagnosed in Canada, but they told me I had to go back to the U.S.
to get an MRI because I would be on a waiting list for over a year to get an MRI to be diagnosed.
lydia smith
Yeah, one of my friends brought her dad back to the U.S.
to have cancer treatment because they were gonna put him on a list too.
It was gonna be something like four months.
When you have cancer, you don't have four months.
janice dean
Canada's great if you're healthy and you don't have like a chronic illness.
ian crossland
Do they have private health care, too?
Do they mix it up?
janice dean
I would guess that you could probably, if you're wealthy, you could do that.
Or you just come to the U.S.
tim pool
If you're dirt poor or homeless, I'm sure you'll take a wait list over nothing.
I guess, however, in the United States, emergency rooms have to admit you.
But there are still some complications.
I don't want to get too personal, but there are some stories I know of people in my life where they were stuck in Canada wishing they could get to the United States for proper health care treatment because in Canada they don't have the same level of technology.
lydia smith
Right.
janice dean
That is correct.
And part of the reason the MRI machines is because they didn't have them.
lydia smith
Wow.
janice dean
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yikes.
janice dean
I mean, listen, I grew up there, I have fond memories of being in Canada, but as somebody who has a chronic illness, we really have the best healthcare in the world.
ian crossland
When did you leave Canada?
janice dean
I was in my mid-twenties.
ian crossland
What made you want to leave?
janice dean
You know, career choices.
I felt like, you know, I truly believe I'm one of those people living the American dream because I wanted to be a broadcaster and I felt in Canada they kind of put a cap on what I could do.
Well, you know, you're doing the job that you should be doing right now and you really can't go much further than that.
Whereas I felt like, you know, I applied for a job in New York City and got in my car and I didn't have much money and packed a suitcase and I moved to New York.
tim pool
But man, having to be surrounded by all of those those evil white supremacists at Fox News must must be just so difficult.
I'm kidding.
unidentified
I know you are.
janice dean
I've been there 18 years and truly it's like they're like my family.
You know, I've made some very good friends there and and I feel really lucky to work there.
tim pool
But you're in New York.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
I've I've heard from many people that a lot of the people who work at Fox News in New York are actually liberals.
janice dean
Well, you know, to be quite honest with you, no one asks who the person voted for.
Like when I went for my job interview, no one asked me who I voted for or, you know, uh, whether I identify as a Republican or, you know, a Democrat.
That was never asked.
And, you know, I don't know who, actually, you know what?
I, the people, there are some people that I work with that I know are not Republican, but it doesn't matter.
tim pool
Yeah, as it should.
That's the way it should be.
But I was talking to somebody... I've been in and out of the Fox building.
I've been on Jesse Waters' show quite a bit.
And people were there telling me, like, it's New York.
What do you think?
You think the people in New York City are all a bunch of conservatives?
So of course there are liberals who work at Fox News.
But these are the people that might be liberal, but working alongside conservatives, don't view them as Nazis or whatever stupid lie the other media outlets are pushing.
But I guess the name of the game today in media is hyper-partisan tribalism.
And it's the weirdest thing that, you know, growing up, Fox News was the bad network.
You know, Bill O'Reilly and sun goes up, sun goes down, you can't explain that kind of stuff.
And now, For whatever reason, maybe it's just political, or maybe something really happened.
Fox News is the outlet actually bringing on opposition voices, actually having challenging conversations.
And the other outlets are just Trump sucks, the right are bad people, Fox News evil.
janice dean
Right.
Well, it's not rating anymore, though, the Trump sucks stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
janice dean
Right?
I mean, what are they going to do next?
They've got to think of another plan.
tim pool
Well, they tried going after Tucker.
You know, Brian Stelter over at CNN was like, Tucker is the new Trump, and no one cared.
I see what they were trying to do.
You know, CNN had this really long streak of Trump sucks, and it did really well for them in ratings.
Without Trump, they need to find a new villain.
They tried Tucker.
unidentified
It didn't really work because Tucker's not the president.
janice dean
I saw Stephen Colbert the other night was doing a Trump bit.
I'm like, what?
lydia smith
Really?
janice dean
Oh yeah, you need to Google that.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Did they come up with, like, a list of names for him?
janice dean
Names for him.
I'm thinking, was this taped, like, six months ago?
But no, it was, like, something very recent.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was awful.
tim pool
So a month ago, they did the nicknames thing.
Colbert asked viewers for new— Let me pause this.
Colbert asked viewers for new nicknames for Trump, and they didn't disappoint.
Yes, they did.
lydia smith
They totally did.
I'm sorry.
It's so bad.
tim pool
On April 17th.
janice dean
Isn't he a comedian?
Shouldn't he be coming up with, like, new stuff?
ian crossland
Well, that's novel.
Wow.
janice dean
What were some of the nicknames?
tim pool
I don't know.
What do we got here?
Let's see.
He Who Shall Not Be Named.
Eric's Dad.
Is that it?
I don't know.
janice dean
Well, can I tell you that Gutfeld is actually doing much better in the ratings than any of those hosts.
What does that tell you?
tim pool
He's funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
janice dean
Or they're just sick of the old same old thing.
tim pool
I mean, you turn on any one of the late hosts, you get the same joke.
ian crossland
Yeah, I went on Twitter and I looked at, like, Stephen Colbert, actually, yesterday, and then I was like, you may also like Samantha Bee, uh, what other, all these, like, the same, Jimmy Kimmel, uh, I can't even think, I don't even want to think about these.
tim pool
Well, hey, Jimmy Kimmel had on Mike Lindell, I thought that was pretty good, actually.
ian crossland
I don't know if it's just like, and I ain't saying the liberal media, but the liberal economic order, the liberal international order was created in 1946.
It's a real organization.
tim pool
I don't think it's the same thing though.
ian crossland
Well, the word liberal, this whole idea of like these people being fed this information to promote American imperialism.
I think those people are, whether they realize it or not, part of it.
tim pool
No, I agree with that.
I think the reason why all of these late-night hosts were in lockstep is that Donald Trump was a rogue.
He was not in line with what the administrations of the past wanted.
It's funny when you look at a lot of the wartime policies of many of the past presidents, and it was expansion, expansion, expansion, Middle East expansion, and then Trump was just roguelike.
No, we're getting out.
I don't want to do it.
He didn't support him.
They loved him when he bombed Syria.
And so what happens is all of the mainstream late-night hosts are in unison, Trump is bad.
There you go.
So I don't know about a liberal economic order, but it was, let's get rid of this guy.
I think the problem now is a lot of these people like Colbert, they were riding the ratings wave.
Ragging on Trump was just making him money and it was working.
And now Trump's gone.
janice dean
Do you think that if they could, would they bring him back just to make money?
tim pool
So I actually went on Brian Kilmeade's show.
I don't know if it's his show, but he was hosting Primetime.
And he asked me if Trump started his own social network, do you think they would try and get him banned?
And I said, I don't know, but I kind of lean towards no.
They want Trump on social media so they can talk about him to get ratings.
Now, Trump ended up launching just a website, which is not a big social media platform, so I don't think anyone really cares.
What's interesting is that Trump emails me like five times a day.
ian crossland
He loves you.
tim pool
I mean, he emailed me and he's like, Tim, take a look at this photo of me golfing.
ian crossland
It's the best!
tim pool
No, no, but he emails everybody on his list and I got an email and he said he was golfing and I'm like, I don't care that you're golfing.
Apparently nobody else did either.
They try to write these stories, but Trump isn't the president anymore.
So they might as well be writing, some guy did something.
Who cares?
janice dean
I like how Hollywood is kind of eating its own, though.
I'm enjoying that.
lydia smith
Yes.
janice dean
The fact that they canceled the golden whatever it's called.
lydia smith
Golden Globes?
janice dean
Golden Globes.
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
They canceled it.
janice dean
Yeah, it's not going to happen next year.
And Ellen DeGeneres is gone.
ian crossland
Oh, like her show's canceled?
janice dean
Yes.
ian crossland
Wow.
lydia smith
She's out.
ian crossland
Did she retire?
Was that her decision?
janice dean
Well, that's what she says.
She says it's just not challenging anymore, but we all know why.
It's because all the stories were coming out how she was not a nice person.
tim pool
Yeah, people are saying that she lied about being invited to Dakota Johnson's birthday or something, and I'm like, I gotta be honest, I really don't care.
But let's just turn the show off.
ian crossland
The centralized Hollywood system is cracking and falling apart.
janice dean
I'm good with that, though.
I used to like the Oscars way back when.
I would stay up, I would watch them, I thought it was funny.
And now I could care less.
tim pool
Yeah, the Golden Globes are gone.
janice dean
They're gone.
tim pool
They got canceled.
They say it was hardly a foregone conclusion.
The controversy has been mounting for months.
The LA Times exposés in February highlighted the association's insular culture and open letter.
janice dean
That's woke stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, woke stuff.
ian crossland
What if the Oscars are gonna go next?
janice dean
They didn't do well this year.
The Oscars?
tim pool
Yeah, it was like 58% down.
janice dean
But has anybody seen any of those movies?
tim pool
I don't even know what they're talking about.
No, but they're doing this diversity initiative where it's like, we could bring out the actors you know and love who are in the movies you know and love, or, hear me out, obscure films by non-white actors.
Now, I got no issue if they want to give awards to people who aren't white.
I don't see it as being an issue in any capacity.
The problem is when they make something that isn't recognizable to anybody in the country.
Pulling up movies that no one's seen or heard of, I don't know who's going to want to watch that.
And I'm not saying it to be disrespectful.
I'm not saying it like these people should watch it.
What I mean is, if you've never heard of it, why would you be interested in it now?
If they'd seen the movie earlier in the year, they might want to see if it'll win the award.
But then I guess people were shocked that, um, who was supposed to win?
again.
Chadwick Boseman, I guess?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Was it him?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And then they ended up giving it to somebody who wasn't even there.
janice dean
Anthony Hopkins.
tim pool
Yeah, he wasn't even there.
It's just a disaster.
I think it's fair to say get what go broke.
They've put so much in the basket of prioritized wokeness and activism that the product is missing.
janice dean
You know, I can't look at Robert De Niro anymore because of his support for Andrew Cuomo and Billy Crystal.
It's sad to me.
I miss seeing actors that don't tell me who they voted for.
tim pool
Isn't it weird, though, that actors who probably would never have thought twice about you are now probably sitting around their friends saying that, you know, oh, you Fox News employees are evil fascists or something, and it's like...
It's just weird to me to have watched Mark Ruffalo in all these movies for a decade.
janice dean
It's hard.
tim pool
Go back to the Avengers, before any of this insanity, and I'm like, really cool, Hulk, great, Mark Ruffalo and Chris Evans.
Then they start screaming on Twitter and I'm like, what is wrong with these people?
ian crossland
Want to change the world, just talk a lot, get involved in politics.
janice dean
I did get into a little bit of a fight with Ben Stiller.
tim pool
Oh, really?
janice dean
Yes, on Twitter, because he was supporting Andrew Cuomo.
And of course, this is going through the whole time where I've been a bit of an advocate on behalf of my husband's parents.
And they were doing some event for raising money.
It was Ben Stiller, Whoopi Goldberg, Billy Crystal, De Niro, and they were doing this online thing where you could meet the governor through Zoom and you had to pay like $1,000 that goes to his re-election campaign.
So I went on Twitter and I was like, Whoopi Goldberg, Ben Stiller, Billy Crystal, did you know that Governor Cuomo put over 9,000 COVID positive patients in nursing homes?
You know, I did it because That's what people need to know about.
And Ben Stiller came back at me and was like, oh, little Miss Sunshine, just because you don't like him doesn't mean, you know, I like him.
And he said something about Trump.
He assumed that I was a Trump supporter.
So I went back and was like, well, I just want to let you know that, you know, my husband's parents died in, you know, in nursing homes.
And I feel that he was partly responsible.
And you should know about this before you start raising money, uh, on behalf of, you know, dead New Yorkers, uh, because of COVID.
And he, I guess, did some research.
tim pool
Wow, really?
janice dean
And afterwards, you know, went back and said, I'm really sorry for your loss.
I lost my dad earlier this year.
I didn't know your story.
I'm going to delete my tweet.
tim pool
Wow.
I'm a fan of Ben Stiller.
janice dean
You know what?
Me too.
ian crossland
I have been since the Ben Stiller show.
In the, what, late 80s?
Early 90s?
janice dean
Good for him.
tim pool
I mean, yeah.
I mean, that is artwork anyway.
Even if he came back and was like, you know, I'm sorry to hear that, but I disagree and I like Cuomo, I would have respected that as well.
janice dean
Absolutely.
And, you know, at the beginning it was a gut reaction.
You know, like, you're a Trump supporter.
And then, doing a bit of research, Realizing what my family has been through, he had empathy.
unidentified
And for that, I'm grateful.
tim pool
In your work, are you overtly political?
janice dean
Not at all.
I've never been a political person.
Ever.
I always say the red and blue that I see on a map are areas of high pressure and low pressure.
tim pool
That's awesome.
unidentified
All the time.
tim pool
That's how insanely tribal it is that someone tweets at you, hey, this bad thing happened.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the immediate assumption is that the meteorologists from Fox and Friends is clearly
politically aligned.
All the time.
janice dean
I hate being in this position, but I feel like if I'm not going to talk about it, who is going to talk
about it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, the crazy thing is they demand, it's just, I tweeted criticism of Biden.
I said something like, I guess, build back better means crumbling infrastructure,
a crippled economy and escalating Middle Eastern conflict.
And then I get all of it.
Clearly, it gets a ton of retweets because conservatives are like, yeah, Biden sucks.
And then I get a bunch of liberals being like, yeah, well, Donald Trump.
And I'm like, yes, yes.
And Donald Trump continue.
Now, Biden, right?
No.
It's the craziest thing that if I criticize Biden right now, the response is, but Trump.
janice dean
Oh yeah.
Same with the Cuomo thing too.
Every time I go on there, but Trump.
I don't see you blaming Trump.
unidentified
Well, you know what?
janice dean
Trump didn't put COVID positive patients into nursing homes.
tim pool
Trump needs to take responsibility for different things.
He trusted too many bad people in a lot of different ways.
We mentioned John Bolton being a bad choice, especially for his agenda.
Trump trusted bad people.
Bad things happened.
It's not the same thing as what Biden is doing.
By all means, if you want to criticize Trump, I'm like, yes, Donald Trump fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria.
We're very upset about it.
Now, as for Joe Biden, because he's the president today, The problem is, you know, you go back to the Trump administration, and I try to be fair.
I supported Trump in November.
I said, here's his agenda items that I thought were really good.
School choice was big.
I thought that was fantastic.
He was talking about ending the Middle Eastern wars, and he'd actually making moves to do it.
And I was pretty happy, among other things, banning critical race theory and stuff.
I said, okay, I'll vote for the guy.
I have no problem saying that.
But I was also critical of him in a variety of ways.
One, he ordered a commando raid that killed an eight-year-old American girl in, I believe it was Yemen.
59 Tomahawk missiles, mass spending.
Throughout the four years of Trump, you have a media that's lying over and over again about Russia and other ridiculous nonsense.
So if I'm going to be accurate, I'm going to be defending Trump.
Whether it's about policy or otherwise, I have to be like, that's not true.
But when Trump did something wrong, I'd say, yeah, well, I don't like that Trump did this and boy, was it stupid to hire Bolton.
That was like the worst thing I think he could have done.
Now, what's happening is Biden is president.
They're not reciprocating in terms of fairness.
Biden needs to be heavily criticized.
But these people who claim, you know, a lot of these leftists who are socialists want to claim that they don't actually like Biden.
They jump to attention the moment someone criticizes the guy.
It's the stupidest thing ever.
Come on!
We're in the middle of a very high inflation.
People are getting scared.
And the media, you know, yelling comes out, there's no inflation problem.
Then a week later, the New York Times.
Well, inflation's a problem, here's what we gotta do about it.
Joe Biden then says, we're gonna keep printing unemployment checks, which the Chamber of Commerce says is contributing to the unemployment problem.
And then they're gone.
Defending Joe Biden, who's not a leftist, who's not a socialist, and I'm like, why are you protecting this guy again?
I thought you didn't like him, but he was better than Trump.
Now you're actually standing up for the guy.
Let's be reasonable.
The buck stops with the current president.
You want to blame Trump for COVID?
My response was, we don't have a control group by which to judge the metrics, you know, of Trump's responses, but I think certainly if you think Trump didn't do a good enough job, I'm willing to hear your criticisms.
Okay, now Joe Biden is president.
You want to talk about what's going on?
Well, he's the president, so the buck stops with him.
Nah, they never play that game.
It's always, you know, the economy was doing really well under Trump.
What did they say?
Actually, this is Obama's recovery efforts, and Trump's just riding.
Now the economy is doing miserable.
Well, Donald Trump!
Every single time, that's exactly how it goes.
ian crossland
I love reasonable people.
tim pool
Yes!
lydia smith
They're rare.
ian crossland
I mean, nobody's perfect.
I don't know.
I think the system itself is really faulty.
tim pool
And here I am enjoying this delicious citrus surge that AOC says is racist.
ian crossland
You guys are surging together right now.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
AOC didn't say that Surge citrus flavored soda was racist.
She said the word Surge was racist.
lydia smith
Oh, that's right, that's right.
I was like, wait, Surge?
janice dean
Are they a sponsor?
No, they should be.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
We are not sponsored by Surge.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I just, I like having obscure things.
janice dean
I love that.
I mean, the fact that you brought up RC Cola.
lydia smith
Yes.
janice dean
I hadn't heard, I had not heard that name in a long time.
tim pool
So when people are downstairs like, do you want anything to drink?
Do you want a Surge or an RC Cola?
lydia smith
People are like, really?
tim pool
You have those?
janice dean
But that's exciting!
You've brought excitement back into my life.
tim pool
I wonder what other, like, weird 70s, 80s, and 90s products.
ian crossland
Did you have a slushie while you were down there?
janice dean
I heard about the slushie.
ian crossland
Yeah, slushies are good.
Tim got a slushie machine.
Oh, it was off, okay.
tim pool
I was gonna make an apple huckleberry.
janice dean
The next time it's working, I'd like to be invited.
tim pool
Well, you can come by anytime and we'll get the slushie machines going.
ian crossland
Bring the family.
The kids will love it.
janice dean
They will love it.
tim pool
Jokingly.
We do have Serge.
It's, you know, because I think it's hilarious.
But, you know, AOC, when she said that Serge was racist, it's a perfect example of inane tribalism.
I don't want to rehash an old story.
I was just mentioning we had the sodas and it kind of plays into it.
But she recently was talking about Israel and Gaza and then somehow said, we don't want to recognize the plight of Palestine because it would make us have to recognize the plight of the migrants on our own border.
And everyone was like, What?
You know, I think it might be because she doesn't really have policy positions.
Maybe it's just cliche or stereotypical for me to be like, ah, you know, AOC doesn't have anything going on.
But I really do feel like, you know, in this culture war, in this political divide, I mentioned it a moment ago, the uninitiated and the initiated.
They are people who are just Democrats.
So the Democrats must win no matter what.
You can criticize Cuomo for doing something horrible, but their Democrat and Team Democrat must be protected at all costs.
janice dean
Sad.
tim pool
You must be Team Trump.
It's like, OK, I mean, look, I voted for the guy, but I don't care if you smack talk the guy.
If someone comes to me and says, yeah, well, Trump did this, that and this, I'd be like, damn, that's awful.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, Biden, you know, as well, he's the president now.
So let me write down all the bad things about Trump.
I agree.
You're right.
And now let's talk about Biden, right?
They don't want to do it because this is the nature of politics.
Just which team are you on?
Of course, Fox News is Team Orange.
janice dean
Well, like I said, red and blue areas of air, low pressure, high pressure.
tim pool
It is fascinating that the whole network is like, well, actually, you know, it's interesting that there's one network, basically.
I guess there's OAN and Newsmax, but in terms of, you know, large viewership, all of the other outlets walk in lockstep.
Fox News is the only outlet that actually has conflicting narratives or opinions.
janice dean
Well, and that was the brilliance of when it was invented.
It was because there wasn't anything out there to represent the views of the viewers.
Right?
I mean, there was the CNN.
But, you know, CNN back then was different.
It's not the CNN that it is today.
tim pool
It's very boring.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was like C-SPAN, kind of.
I always got them mixed up when I was a kid.
Like, they both just have video of Congress just talking.
tim pool
Is that what they did back in the day?
ian crossland
It seemed like in the 80s that's what CNN was.
tim pool
I mean, they had people on the ground and stuff.
But it was very boring.
janice dean
MSNBC is doing better than CNN, which is quite incredible.
tim pool
Is that not the case, historically?
janice dean
No.
I mean, for many years, CNN was the most valuable, whatever it was called.
tim pool
The most trusted name in news.
janice dean
I guess.
And then MSNBC was always the third.
But now, more than ever, you've got somebody like a Rachel Maddow, who is Nuts.
ian crossland
Stressed.
janice dean
Watch video her face. She was the one saying about the masks that she couldn't she couldn't bear to get rid of the
tim pool
math Yeah, she's like off the rewire my brain to not see people
how to mask as a threat I saw that and I was like, I've never viewed someone with
or without a mask as a threat I just mind my own business. I go to the store. I buy the
cat food and I come back We give the food to the cat. I don't know what you're
talking about lady It freaks me out that people think the way she does. Yeah,
and they watch her show. So clearly they do That's it's really it's really scary because if people
ian crossland
start to be afraid of each other that's the ground-up Totalitarian mentality because then it's very easy to
manipulate people to do things to each other to your neighbor
Turn your neighbor in like in the Soviet you know gulags two out of five people were informants.
janice dean
And then you have a Chris Cuomo who doesn't want to wear a mask ever but tells people they need to wear a mask.
tim pool
Or who fakes being in quarantine.
janice dean
Fake quarantine.
tim pool
Yup.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I loved it when Ben Smith of the New York Times actually called out Cuomo.
And nothing happens of it.
unidentified
You know what?
janice dean
Very recently on social media, someone called him out on it and they referenced a Fox News article talking about the fake quarantine.
And he was like, oh, well, you shouldn't believe Fox News.
I went underneath and brought that article up by Ben Smith and said, hmm, this is not Fox News.
And there's actual proof of a guy that saw you in the Hamptons not quarantining.
tim pool
It's insane to me.
And Brian Stelter, I think, is one of the worst people on TV because he provides cover for them as this media reporter who's constantly... I'll tell you this.
I've known Brian for a long time, not like I've known him well or anything.
But it's amazing how he went from being a media reporter for the New York Times to the Fox News review show for CNN Sunday mornings.
That's what he does.
He watches Fox News and then he writes about it and does a show where he's like, Tucker Carlson had an opinion about waffles today.
And it's like, dude, if I want to hear Tucker's opinion, I'll just ask him.
janice dean
He did a whole piece on the fact that Fox News personalities weren't admitting that they were getting the vaccinations.
Like they weren't doing their vaccination selfies.
tim pool
Did you violate policy by speaking on this show that you got the vaccine?
unidentified
I put it out there.
janice dean
I actually put my vaccination on social media because I'm very open with having MS and I'm someone that, you know, should get the vaccine just for that very reason that I have a compromised immune system.
So I was out there and I put it on social media.
unidentified
And then, of course, he's like, well, there's no Fox personalities that are putting out their vaccination selfies.
And I just was like, I did this three weeks ago.
janice dean
Am I not a Fox and Friends personality?
tim pool
You know, You are, but it's bad for their narrative, so... Well, we don't mean the... The meteorologist.
Yeah, the weather lady.
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
We mean the... The pundits.
tim pool
Hannity?
We want Hannity to do it?
ian crossland
That was weird when he did that morale... It was like a... Like a brow beating or like a... What would you call it?
Like a morality where it's like, well, we got... Struggle session?
Yeah, like a guilt by like, we got the thing.
Where is everyone else getting it?
Like a peer pressure.
janice dean
And at the time when he talked about that, a lot of people weren't allowed to get the vaccination because there was a hierarchy because of Andrew Cuomo, who could get the vaccination.
So Stelter puts it out out there on social media, like, why aren't these Fox personalities going to get vaccinations?
tim pool
But at the time, we actually couldn't get them because we weren't a lot of them weren't of the age or Wasn't it specifically, why aren't they posting vaccine selfies?
janice dean
Yes.
tim pool
What the?
So I don't know if you're familiar with Freedom Tunes at all?
No.
So our friend Seamus, he has a channel on YouTube.
He makes these little, he makes these, you know, political cartoons.
And one of them is a guy going to the doctor to get his vaccine.
And the doctor is like, do you want to take the vaccine selfie?
And he's like, no, no, I don't need a self.
And he was, uh, okay.
And then later on COVID shows up at his house, like the actual virus.
And he's like, I'm here to get you.
And the guy goes, COVID, you can't get me.
I've got a vaccine.
And he goes, what?
Show me your, show me your proof.
And he shows him the vaccine card.
unidentified
He goes, not that I want to see your vaccine selfie.
tim pool
Everybody knows, you know, so.
That was the plan, CNN.
janice dean
My head is exploding.
It's just ridiculous.
If that's what you're bugging us about, not having a COVID vaccine, it's also a health issue.
You know, health information.
You don't necessarily have to put that out there at all.
Why are you browbeating people for putting health information out there?
tim pool
They want to push the narrative that all of Fox News's viewers are anti-vaxxers or they are conspiracy theorists or QAnon or whatever the stuff.
And it's not true.
janice dean
I have been at home broadcasting, you know, in my spare bedroom and my house for over a year now.
And when I went in and said, listen, I'm compromised.
I probably should stay home.
They were like, of course you need to take care of your health.
And you know, they've always been like that.
tim pool
It's really disappointing, I guess to say.
Creepy.
If you watch CNN and you never watch Fox News, they probably think it's a bunch of people walking around in Klan hoods with COVID and other diseases and no vaccines and there's just this hive of scum and villainy in New York City surrounded by gates that no one can get into or something.
People gotta realize that Fox News, the building you work out of particularly, is in New York under the rules of Cuomo and de Blasio.
So certainly they're taking it seriously because they legally have to.
ian crossland
What's the history of Fox?
Do you guys know much about it?
Like how it got started?
When it got started?
janice dean
Roger Ailes.
He was the mastermind behind Fox News.
He helped a lot of political people with their careers in politics.
And he was the one who kind of decided with Rupert Murdoch that there needed to be a television station, cable news network, that represented people that didn't feel that they were being represented.
And so that was, I think, almost 25 years ago.
tim pool
It was like 95 or something?
janice dean
Thanks.
I, you know, I'll have to do some research.
I mean, this is my 18th year.
So I think we're coming up on 25.
ian crossland
So Murdoch had started Fox.
Fox had been around for what, since the 80s or something?
tim pool
The Fox TV show?
ian crossland
Is that what it was?
And then Ailes came to Murdoch and was like, let's add a- Fox News Channel.
Okay.
janice dean
Yeah.
I'll have to see the chicken or the egg.
tim pool
Isn't Fox News still owned by Murdoch?
It didn't go with Fox and the Disney deal, I guess, so it's like- No, we're our own separate entity now.
How is it working at Fox News?
janice dean
I love it.
I've been there, like I said, for 18 years.
It's the best job I've ever had.
I love the people there.
I love the job that I do.
You know, the fact that I talk about Andrew Cuomo is, you know, I've never thought I would ever be in this kind of position talking about politics because that's not my wheelhouse at all.
tim pool
They don't have an issue with you coming on shows like this and talking politics?
janice dean
I think that they knew that this was very personal for me.
They knew the story.
And at the very beginning when this was happening, my husband, who's a very private person, not in broadcasting at all, he didn't want me to bring up his family.
They were very private people, but when we saw the fact that there was no news out there And the governor was going around as the go-to pandemic politician, not talking about these nursing home issues.
It just, it became more and more clear that he was getting away with this.
So you talk about Tucker.
I was texting with Tucker and I believe it was a conservative, was it Town Hall maybe?
Forgive me, but it was a conservative outlet that broke the news that he wasn't counting those that died in the hospitals.
tim pool
I think it was Town Hall.
janice dean
I think it was Town Hall, too.
No, what was the outlet that Tucker Carlson started?
Daily Caller.
It was the Daily Caller, forgive me.
So they were the ones doing the investigative reporting.
And I was reading this and thinking to myself, why isn't this a story on the news channels?
So I texted with him and I said, listen, this is what happened with my in-laws.
He put COVID positive patients into nursing homes.
He actually had a mandate for 46 days to do this.
This should be a story.
And he said, listen, if you wanna, anytime you wanna come on the program, I believe it's a story.
you have a forum to do so. And when I continuously saw the governor going on these programs and
never being asked the nursing home question, that's when I said to my husband, you know,
can we, can I talk about this? Because I don't think there's anyone doing that.
And so that's how it sort of began.
And I haven't really stopped.
I'd like to, but it's still, to this day, you know, he seems to be getting away with it.
tim pool
I think he's going to get away with it.
I mean, maybe he won't get reelected, but I don't think he's going to get in trouble.
janice dean
But you know, you don't think so.
tim pool
Yeah.
janice dean
What about the harassment?
I, you know, I started to think, you know, there are a lot of Democrats that don't like them.
And so that's why when all the harassment stuff was coming out, I thought that that's why they're jumping on this bandwagon.
Cause they, they, the, the, the really criminal stuff is the nursing homes, but they can get behind the me too, uh, stuff because that's a little bit easier to digest, I guess, to go after the governor for the me too stuff.
But I mean, there's nine women now.
He keeps going on and putting his foot in his mouth.
There's an apparent impeachment process going on with Albany lawmakers.
But I think it's a sham.
So maybe you're right.
But you know what?
If it means that he is not reelected for a fourth term, then it was worth it.
tim pool
Something, I guess.
But I just I don't expect any of these people to ever be held accountable.
janice dean
What if it was a Republican governor?
What if it was a Ron DeSantis that put COVID positive patients into nursing homes?
9,000 of them.
He covered up the numbers.
He tried to sell a book for $4 million.
You know.
tim pool
Prison.
janice dean
Right?
He'd be in an orange jumpsuit.
tim pool
Probably not prison, but the media would, they would run for six months nonstop.
janice dean
It would be the top story on every single cable news channel.
tim pool
This is the problem with, The networks have built an audience based on Tribe because, I think mostly because of the internet.
If people can choose to watch whatever they want, then they're going to choose to go where their bias leads them.
So, CNN becomes the Orange Man Bad Network.
Now, everything they say has to be in line with one particular worldview.
Their ratings are in the gutter on fire because they've pigeonholed themselves.
But I think they probably would have went under a long time ago if they didn't.
Donald Trump allowed them to stay afloat for several years longer than they should have.
People watch that network, or they used to, just to hear why Trump was bad, to prove to themselves that he was bad.
Now that Trump is gone, what does CNN have to offer?
I mean, they used to go and do reporting.
They don't really do that so much anymore.
I think they're trying to again, but...
janice dean
Well, to back to your point, you know, Fox has been really good to me.
And when they knew my personal story and knew what I was trying to do by going on, you know, Tucker's show and Sean Hannity show and Fox and Friends, it was to be a voice for all of these families that didn't have one.
So I do walk that line sometimes.
And I'm grateful that they gave me the platform and trusted me that, you know, I was doing it for the right reasons.
tim pool
You went on Tucker's show and talked about all this.
Was that the first time you had stepped away from just doing the- Yes, and it was terrifying.
janice dean
It's still terrifying.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's kind of crazy.
I mean, your whole persona on Fox is you walk outside, there's people there, and you're like, how's it going?
Welcome to New York.
Ask the kids, what's it like in New York?
And then here you are in this very serious political fight, also on Tucker.
janice dean
You know, I can be both of those people.
You know, I can still be the one that goes out there and has fun and, you know, does the Kentucky Derby and Groundhog Day and write the Freddy the Frogcaster books for the kids, but I can also be a serious person that wants to, you know, hold the governor's feet to the fire and try to make him accountable for something that he did wrong and that cost the lives of thousands.
tim pool
Now everybody wants to know, is Tucker a nice guy?
janice dean
He's a lovely, wonderful guy.
He's a good friend.
He really is.
tim pool
Well, so you also mentioned earlier on that the Kentucky Derby.
Is that is that it is?
janice dean
Yep.
So the Kentucky Derby was two weeks ago and this tomorrow I'll be at the Preakness, which is the they call it the second jewel in the Triple Crown.
So if you win the Kentucky Derby and then you go on to win the Preakness and then you go on to win the Belmont Stakes, which is in New York.
That's the Triple Crown.
There hasn't been many of them.
I believe there's been 13 and so Tomorrow, that's where I'll be.
tim pool
Are you just there to hang out and watch?
janice dean
Yeah, no, I broadcast from there.
tim pool
Oh, cool.
janice dean
So I get to do fun stuff like that.
So I'll do the weather forecast, but I also I really love the horse racing.
You know, it's one of the first dates my husband and I went on was at Belmont.
It wasn't the greatest date.
tim pool
Where's Belmont?
janice dean
Belmont is in New York.
That's where the Triple Crown is actually held.
And then we've been to Saratoga a couple of times.
So I don't know.
It's fun, you know, for two minutes.
The country comes together.
unidentified
No one knows who voted for who.
janice dean
You look at a horse that's running a two minute race and there's excitement.
tim pool
Have there have there been any pushes to politicize any of it?
I know there's like the drug thing, but that's its own scandal.
It's not a political thing.
janice dean
Well, I mean, I guess a lot of people might say, you know, What's happening with the drugs scandal is the top trainer.
I would say, arguably, he is the most famous trainer in horse racing.
So, you know, there is going to be a lot of scrutiny on this guy.
But I mean, it's the horse.
It's betting on horses.
tim pool
Heaven forbid they find out he voted for Trump or something.
Then it would just be like, everything we feared is confirmed.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
But, you know, it's good to hear that there's sports stuff happening that kind of escapes all this.
janice dean
I think so.
tim pool
We got the Olympics coming up.
I guess there's like 350 350,000 signatures to get the Olympics banned in Tokyo because of COVID.
Then you've also got the was it was it called the IPCC?
Is that the international?
No.
Is it the IPCC?
janice dean
That sounds right.
tim pool
No, I think I got the I'm not sure.
No, that's the panel on climate change.
What am I thinking of?
lydia smith
It's something different. I don't know.
tim pool
The Olympic Committee or whatever, the IOPC.
Okay.
They're banning politics.
They're banning Black Lives Matter and stuff.
janice dean
Smart.
tim pool
So if you're competing, you can't raise a fist or drop to a knee or something.
But if you're doing interviews, you can say whatever you want.
And I'm like, I actually think that's a good thing.
You know, we are boiling over in this country and around the world, partly because of social media.
I think a lot to do with social media and media.
Everybody's at each other's throats.
Everybody needs to just get back to arguing over which sport team... Yeah, I agree.
janice dean
I agree.
Just to watch a baseball game, you know?
tim pool
But now it's like, what are they doing in New York, like the vac section and the unvac section?
janice dean
Oh, well, that's Cuomo again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got your vaccine.
You can sit over here.
And if you don't have your vaccine, you got to be over here six feet apart.
I'm like, oh, I'd like to pretend I don't have a vaccine so I don't have to sit next to a person.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
I get more space.
I can put my coat over here.
janice dean
That sounds excellent.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
You know, it's really fun when you get the cup and it's got the bowl on top and you got the chicken nuggets and you're holding the cup.
You ever see those things?
unidentified
No.
janice dean
No, what's that?
tim pool
So there's a cup, it's full of soda, and then they put the lid on, they put the straw on, and then there's a plastic ring that goes over the top with your fries and your chicken nuggets or whatever.
janice dean
That sounds fantastic!
tim pool
So you're holding a cup, you can drink it, and then... Yeah, it's great.
janice dean
You need to get some of those here.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It's actually a good idea.
And people could have like their drink on the show with like chicken, I don't know, they have chicken nuggets on the show, I guess, if you'd like.
Or like, I don't know, almonds.
ian crossland
Empanadas?
tim pool
I do.
ian crossland
The Venezuelan Maduro empanada thing?
unidentified
Yes.
janice dean
Oh no, what's that?
ian crossland
He was giving a speech.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
ian crossland
Yeah, this is good.
tim pool
His people were starving.
unidentified
It's terrible.
tim pool
And he was giving a speech, but continue.
ian crossland
Yeah, I mean, he would just in the middle of his speech pull out an empanada out of his drawer and take a big bite as he's talking to these starving people.
tim pool
The people of Venezuela are starving.
Talking.
People really want Tim to pour an empanada out one of these days.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I want an empanada drawer.
ian crossland
And I'll say anything about it.
to pull an empanada out one of these days.
tim pool
I would love to get a little empanada thing here.
lydia smith
I want an empanada drawer.
tim pool
Then randomly I'll be like looking at you while you talk and I'll just
pull an empanada and just bite it and just put it back.
I don't know if I can handle that. It'd probably get me sick.
lydia smith
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, but when I was younger, I was really frustrated with sports
because it felt like all this bad stuff is happening around the world
and no one cares because they're like, oh, the Raiders versus whoever else.
I don't know.
Raiders are football or something?
unidentified
Yeah, football.
tim pool
There you go.
And so I'm like, nobody cares.
Now we have the inverse problem.
I'm like, people care too much.
Slow down a little bit.
You know, like, go watch a football game or a baseball game.
janice dean
In Canada, it's hockey.
tim pool
Have a hot dog.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, we got hockey, but no, you know, Canada, it's It's hockey.
janice dean
It is.
It's hockey.
If you don't know how to skate, you need to go somewhere else.
So you're really good at skating.
I used to figure skate, but I haven't done it in a long time.
tim pool
Is it because Canada is like a block of ice?
janice dean
Although I will tell you that my kids learned to skate because of growing up in Canada.
I'm like, you got to learn how to skate.
If you're half Canadian, you need to strap on the skates.
tim pool
They just naturally have the ability to do it.
One day your kids handed a hockey stick and they're like... I'm good with them just learning how to skate.
janice dean
They don't have to be like... Do they rollerblade?
No, they don't!
ian crossland
Tim's been rollerblading a lot.
janice dean
I know.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
janice dean
Do you love it?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm an old man.
So, uh, 35.
janice dean
I'm older than all of you people.
tim pool
Well, we're old.
Well, I don't know.
unidentified
Old-ish.
tim pool
Ian's old.
ian crossland
Well, there's solar age and genetic age.
janice dean
Okay.
ian crossland
So you can go around the sun a million times, but if your body stays super youthful... Oh, I like that.
lydia smith
There you go.
Perfect.
janice dean
Fantastic answer.
ian crossland
It's all about the telomeres of your chromosomes, keeping them intact.
unidentified
Nice.
janice dean
Young at heart.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
I think one of the funniest things I've seen is, like, you know, Janice, you're very straightforward, you know, wholesome, meteorology, and Ian's this, like, trippy, spacey guy.
Before the show started, Ian was asking Janice, like, have you ever, like, looked at the collective conscious of electromagnetism affecting the sky?
ian crossland
Have you ever used your magnetic field to interact with the clouds?
Because I have.
I was just wondering if you have.
janice dean
Lydia, what did you get me into?
ian crossland
You disperse the negative energy with positive energy.
tim pool
I'd imagine you don't get questions like that all the time.
janice dean
No, I was afraid.
I was like, oh my gosh.
ian crossland
I was in San Diego one year and there was this giant storm coming in, black on the radar.
And we laid on the beach and just meditated and focused on it.
And the clouds parted above us and the storm went to the north and the south, but it went around us.
I've had multiple experiences like that.
janice dean
Really?
ian crossland
Like dancing on my roof and like doing Tai Chi and then the clouds start to spin and open up and you can see the moon and there's this thick cloud cover.
tim pool
Because sometimes clouds move.
ian crossland
Sometimes they move but they're light negative energy force so and we have magnetic fields.
tim pool
I just thought it was funny to like ask a meteorologist about using your brain waves to like change weather.
ian crossland
And we were talking about sprites above the clouds when lightning strikes you see energy go out into space.
janice dean
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
That really happens though?
janice dean
I mean, he showed me a picture on his iPhone.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
lydia smith
I trust him.
ian crossland
I would like to go deep on sprites one day.
janice dean
Okay, I'm in.
I'm in.
You could teach me a few things.
ian crossland
Solar energy.
I wonder where it comes from.
Galactic?
Is it universal?
tim pool
The sprites?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Why is it going out?
It goes out into space, which means it's going somewhere.
tim pool
Mm-hmm another dimension.
ian crossland
Yeah, like it's probably going up into the Taurus.
janice dean
Do you believe in aliens?
ian crossland
Well, I think they exist Yeah, it seems likely but I don't think they've ever been to earth.
tim pool
Okay All right.
We're going there.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
We got the story from the Daily Mail.
U.S.
Navy pilots say they saw UFOs off the coast of Virginia so frequently, they got used to them branding them a worrying security threat.
Former Navy Lieutenant Ryan Graves called the unidentified aerial phenomena a threat to national security.
I am worried, frankly, you know.
If these were tactical jets from another country, they were hanging out up there.
It would be a massive issue.
Louis Elizondo, a former official with the Defense Department, said that UFOs appear to have far superior technology to what the U.S.
has now.
The government is expected to release a report in June on UFO sightings after unclassified videos of them were leaked to the New York Times in 2017.
Senator Marco Rubio called for the detailed analysis after he viewed classified briefings on UAP while he was the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
So UAP is the new word for UFO.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
This is interesting.
They saw them so frequently that they branded them a worrying security threat.
You asked Ian, but I had to interrupt.
Do you believe in aliens?
janice dean
I think I do.
tim pool
You think you do?
janice dean
Yeah.
unidentified
I do.
ian crossland
What do you think they are?
tim pool
Well, do you think the UFOs are aliens?
Or do you think it's, you know, Russia?
janice dean
Oh, gosh.
I don't know about that.
I do think that there are other life forms out there.
tim pool
I certainly think so.
Yeah.
Massive universe.
janice dean
Of course.
tim pool
As for whatever these things are.
It's probably just Russia.
janice dean
Did you say it's the Daily Mail?
Where?
tim pool
Yeah, the DailyMail.co.uk.
janice dean
OK.
tim pool
Yeah.
They love this stuff.
unidentified
They do?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Either this could be a false flag, like the U.S.
government is like, we don't know what this is.
It might be enemy this.
It might be security this, that.
And they're just testing, you know, drone craft.
They raided Tesla's laboratory and he was working with like long range power distribution and like, I don't know.
tim pool
Oh, I thought you were talking about Elon Musk for a second.
They raided a Tesla factory.
ian crossland
I was like, oh, that's hilarious.
What was he doing with those cars?
The FBI, I think it was the FBI, went in Nikola Tesla's laboratory and was it the Wardenclyffe?
They demolished Wardenclyffe, which was his like big power tower that he was trying to like charge batteries from a distance with.
tim pool
No, see, that's because the aliens made him do it, you know.
ian crossland
Well, he used to say he would get communication from, uh, like, intelligence beyond what we understand.
Tesla, the guy who made radio, basically.
tim pool
How funny would it be if, like, there's, like, these super intelligent aliens, and they're, like, sitting in their spaceship above the Earth, and one alien's just talking to another alien about something just totally inane, like, so the wife, uh, she wants to take skiing lessons.
The other alien's like, oof.
You sure about that?
And then Tesla's sitting there, like, fiddling with the wires.
And then it's like... And then he hears the microphone, like, so my wife was saying ski lessons.
And then he's like, what is this I'm hearing?
Who's talking?
And the aliens are like, oh, he can hear us?
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
Tell him something smart real quick.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, they're like, quick, shut it off.
Call the FBI!
Raid his complex!
ian crossland
My guess is that the government raided his laboratory, took the technology, and then they've been experimenting on it ever since.
And they have these lightweight drones.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
People prop up Tesla as if he's just from the future or something.
ian crossland
He's pretty smart.
tim pool
He invented radio.
ian crossland
He invented a lot of really cool stuff.
tim pool
Leonardo da Vinci had a bunch of weird pictures, too, and they don't do anything.
ian crossland
Awesome.
I was just studying that guy a little bit.
unidentified
Leonardo?
He's super cool.
ian crossland
He's a cool dude, I guess.
He used to sleep like 20 minutes every four hours.
Wow.
And then he would take four hours awake, sleep for 20 minutes, four hours awake.
That sounds awful.
Yeah, he would sleep two hours a day.
janice dean
He was a torture.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
I'd be miserable.
lydia smith
Sleep torture, yeah.
ian crossland
You get almost into REM sleep.
I think it takes 90 minutes to get into REM sleep.
lydia smith
Yeah, so he got no REM sleep.
ian crossland
Apparently not.
janice dean
Is that why he was such a great artist?
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
That's why.
tim pool
He was actually insane.
Constantly having waking dreams.
ian crossland
He would draw with one hand while he was writing with another.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
Incredible human.
tim pool
An alien from the future?
Maybe.
You know, with all these conspiracies, I think people just want to believe in something crazy because otherwise life is boring.
ian crossland
It's the unifying theory you're talking about with sports.
Like, we need something collectively to focus on to take us out of the this and that.
You said, he said, she said.
Aliens is a good one.
Space travel is a good one.
That's why people love Elon Musk so much.
tim pool
I think it's why people also want to believe that, you know, every Fox News host is a bad person or every person on the right is grifting and they don't actually believe their opinions.
It's easier to believe in a world where there's a grand conspiracy against you and an evil villain running everything than it is to accept that you might be wrong or that, you know, life is more nuanced in this.
janice dean
I think there needs to be more Ben Stillers out there who like listens to the reason of why somebody did something.
unidentified
Yeah.
janice dean
Does a little research and says, Oh, I'm sorry for your loss.
I'm going to take down that tweet.
tim pool
So I commented on someone's Facebook page or something.
It was like, they were talking about, we're in the middle of the biggest general strike because people are walking out of these jobs.
And I said, it's really interesting how in Republican areas, where they're getting rid of these unemployment waivers, the strike is ending.
And then it came to someone, just immediately responded with some tribal comment, calling me a grifter or whatever.
And I said, maybe the reason you guys believed in Russia was because you couldn't accept that your policies were bad, your candidate was bad, and because you couldn't accept that truth, you need an excuse as to why Hillary lost in 2016.
So you make up a reason.
Instead of just accepting, people wanted Trump more than they wanted Hillary.
It's the same thing right now.
They'll say, you know, people on the right, they're all grifters, or, you know, Fox News is a bunch of far-right whatever, because it's easier to believe that there's an evil presence as opposed to accepting that people might disagree or they might be wrong.
When it comes to UFOs and things of this nature, it's just still in line with the conspiracies.
I don't think people want to accept that life is routine and boring.
Think about life in, you know, the 1600s, 1700s.
All you did was wake up, farm, and go to bed.
Wake up, farm, eat, go to bed.
janice dean
Maybe that's why they want to keep the masks, right?
They don't want to go back to normalcy.
unidentified
They like the masks!
tim pool
It makes them feel like they're part of something that's actually happening.
And now it's going away.
janice dean
Yeah, that's like their security blanket.
ian crossland
Can you imagine if there's no villain?
I mean, I really think there is no villain.
tim pool
There's no villain.
ian crossland
It's just the universe is terrifying and hard to live in.
You're fortunate to be on Earth where there's an atmosphere.
tim pool
I think there are bad people.
I think evil exists.
But it's not it's not like, you know, actually, I would say Thanos is probably a good example.
ian crossland
Nikolai Thanos?
No, no, no.
tim pool
Thanos from Marvel.
You know, in the movies, at least.
He thinks he's a good guy, but he's really dumb.
And that's a lot of what we deal with in terms of villainy.
People who are guided by what they think are good intentions, but they're really dumb.
And then they do dumb things.
lydia smith
And Tim, I would push back on the argument that life is really boring, because it's only boring because we have so much privilege.
We don't have to work our butts off.
We don't have to go get water from the well.
We don't have to worry about...
Heating our homes or not having plumbing and stuff like that.
That's the only reason it's boring.
tim pool
I was looking at some of the magic cards that we have.
Do you know what Magic the Gathering is?
It's a strategy fantasy card game.
So you have a deck of cards and there's a card like a vampire on it or something.
I was looking at some of these cards, and I was looking at trolls and goblins and vampires.
And I started thinking about where these stories come from.
I read once that vampires come from rabies.
The people would be hydrophobic because of the rabies.
Their gums would be pulled back so their teeth look bigger.
And they'd bite you, and then you'd turn into a vampire, and zombies was the same myth.
I don't know if that's true, but I think about these stories of dragons and whatever, and the story of a dragon probably was some dude who was like from somewhere in like Eastern Europe, went on a journey towards Asia or whatever, and at some point, I don't know where the Komodo dragons are native to, but saw a giant lizard.
And then had a sword, and they like snapped at him, and they bashed it, and they were like, this is crazy, and they ran away.
Drew a picture of it, and then said there was a gigantic lizard.
And then someone sees that, and because they didn't actually see it, they see the picture, they're assuming it's this massive thing.
ian crossland
Well, I've got, I think, maybe, like, giant dragonflies that had, like, flint in the back of their throat.
tim pool
No, get out of here.
What are you talking about?
ian crossland
They could spit a flammable liquid and cause a spark and cause, like, a flaming spit.
lydia smith
Don't laugh too hard.
There's a beetle that spits fire.
tim pool
I know, I know, but I'm laughing because what I'm talking about is...
Have you ever seen the picture of the first sighted elephant?
From like, the European colonists went to Africa or whatever, saw an elephant, and described it.
And then someone drew this ridiculous picture of what they thought an elephant looked like based on the description of it.
When they sent the first platypus back, people in Europe, I guess, they thought it was a joke that they stitched this together.
So I'm just, what I'm saying is, I see what you mean.
You look at these legends, and it was probably like, I fought a giant demon monster.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
And it was just a grizzly bear.
ian crossland
That's kind of like astrology, like when you look at the constellations and they make up stories about, it's an archer, like that they've done that to animals in the past too.
I know that there were like giant bears, like 18 foot tall bears or 16 foot tall, even the snub-nosed bear, which is only like 13,000 years ago that it went extinct, was like, I don't know, 16 feet tall or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Huge, monstrous creature.
So I would imagine in the past like giant snakes and huge spiders that over time either couldn't sustain or we killed off.
lydia smith
Yeah, I guess the theory is that there was a lot more oxygen back then.
So these things could get a lot bigger.
So we had these really huge mammals that are absolutely terrifying.
And I'm not sure about the gigantic snakes, but I do know that there's like these really, really big critters that are absolutely horrifying to think about now.
Like, again, we're so lucky to live at a time when we're at the top of the food chain because these animals are scared of us and we've, like, taken over a bunch of this.
ian crossland
So we've wiped out the threats.
Now, like, where's the threat?
It's in our DNA.
And we've turned on each other for the most part.
We haven't.
I try not to.
lydia smith
Right.
ian crossland
But there's that tendency.
tim pool
Maybe the reason we're seeing more and more aliens is because the political divide is getting so intense we're about to blow each other up.
Aliens are coming.
They're going to intervene.
janice dean
Oh, my gosh.
lydia smith
Yes, that's it.
ian crossland
Would you go to Mars?
janice dean
Of course!
tim pool
It's a one-way trip, though.
janice dean
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
janice dean
No, I don't know.
If I could come back.
I would definitely think of something like that.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
lydia smith
Why not?
I find it really scary to think about going to Mars.
I find space to be absolutely intimidating.
Like, I wish that we could explore the Earth a lot better before we try and go to space.
But Mars is really interesting in theory.
ian crossland
Would you go, like, to the bottom of the ocean before you went to the moon?
lydia smith
Uh, yeah.
Actually, I probably would.
I think all the fish at the bottom of the ocean are fascinating.
There's nothing on the moon.
Nothing lives there.
tim pool
We have no idea what lives on the ocean.
lydia smith
That's not true.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
We all know the Nazis escaped to the moon.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, you're right.
tim pool
We all saw that movie.
lydia smith
How could I forget?
tim pool
You know, obviously I'm joking.
I'm referencing a movie called Iron Sky, but I just love it when Media Matters is like, Tim Pool thinks Nazis are on the moon and then they pull the clip.
lydia smith
I love it.
unidentified
False.
tim pool
False!
Yes, Snopes.
Are Nazis really on the moon?
unidentified
False.
tim pool
Tim Pool is wrong.
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And we're gonna take your Super Chats, and so we're gonna get some questions from the audience.
janice dean
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, I see a lot of chats were saying they were so excited to see you on the show.
janice dean
Oh, that's so kind!
tim pool
Absolutely.
janice dean
Was that my mom?
tim pool
No, no, just regular people.
janice dean
She's a huge Tim Pool fan.
tim pool
Oh, is she really?
ian crossland
What's her name?
janice dean
Stella.
ian crossland
What up, Stella?
tim pool
Thanks for watching and being a fan of the show.
So Jesus Flores says, I am a gorilla.
Oh.
If you would, you can go to TimCast.com, click the store button and get one of our shirts.
You'll notice in the chat, we actually have the Doge to the Moon shirt.
It's a Sheba, not a gorilla.
Maybe we should make one that says, I'm a Sheba or something.
Jake Everhart says, just got a four month supply from Safe and Ready Meals.
Thank you for your recommendation and journalism.
Thank you very much for supporting the show.
Appreciate it.
Matthew Kirshner says, Tim, I've been trying to get a hold of you about your RAM's extended warranty.
I hope this is not the super chat you finally read.
I've been trying to contact you about Iraq.
Love the show.
Yeah, I'm getting two calls consistently from someone named Charity Call and Scam Likely.
ian crossland
Oh, I just got a Scam Likely call.
unidentified
I wonder what he's up to.
janice dean
They call me more than anybody else.
lydia smith
Right?
janice dean
Scam-likely.
lydia smith
They care about us.
tim pool
Sometimes I'm sitting there and I'm lonely.
ian crossland
You know people are naming their kids.
lydia smith
Scam-likely.
tim pool
Opossum says, Tim, please watch the new Saw movie and do a review on it on Monday's show.
ian crossland
Uh-oh, why?
janice dean
There's a new Saw movie?
lydia smith
I hope it's not woke.
Saw's bad enough.
tim pool
Oh, hey, Frigsby with a massive super chat.
He says, great guest Janice Dean.
The weather machine is awesome.
janice dean
Oh, that's kind.
tim pool
There you go.
lydia smith
The weather machine.
tim pool
The weather machine.
janice dean
Shepard Smith gave me that name.
tim pool
Oh, really?
janice dean
Yep.
First day, I think I was on air.
No, you know what?
We were doing rehearsals and they wanted me to sort of be a regular feature on Shepard's show at 3 p.m.
And so we were doing some rehearsals and I could tell he's a smart guy.
So the wheels were turning, right?
unidentified
It's like Janice Dean, Janice Dean, Janice, Janice Dean, the weather machine!
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
How much, how much, how much like, uh, how many minutes on air are you every day?
janice dean
That's like, well, it depends, right?
I mean, no, not, I wouldn't say a lot.
Like on Fox and Friends, it's at least once an hour.
Cause I do the national forecast, right?
Now, if there's a big story, if there's a hurricane, tornado outbreak, that kind of thing, it's, it's a little more than that.
Um, but yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I guess, you know, I'm lucky if I get like a minute thirty during my hit.
Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
But you're like, you have to be there plugged into the machine the whole time so that when they call on you, you nail it.
janice dean
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then you have to be prepared, too, because it's 24 hours, right?
So if there is, like, a tornado that kind of, you know, hits a big city like Atlanta, Oh, they'll call you in.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
tim pool
People don't realize that they assume that, you know, when I was on Rogan's show last time, last year, I mentioned that I was like, I record like three hours, three and a half hours a day.
And he goes, that's only three and a half hours.
And I was like, it's like eight hours of work, production, research, and then three hours of me recording myself talking.
And he's like, oh yeah, that's right.
And I'm like, but you know, a lot of people don't realize, because they only see you on TV for a minute, they assume you show up for a minute, then you walk out the door and you're gone.
janice dean
And you're buying a cheeseburger.
No, and then I have other stuff.
I mean, we've got like Fox News Radio that I have to file for.
We do, you know, FoxNews.com.
Got to make sure that the weather is up to date on that, too.
So, yeah.
I wish I could say I do like a minute thirty and then I'm out of there.
tim pool
Wouldn't it be great to get paid tons of money to shut for a minute and leave?
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
It's like what I do.
But it shows.
It shows.
Trust me.
You can tell.
tim pool
Alright, TheCurlyAfro says, I see all this discussion that's not financial advice on BTC and Ethereum, but Ian leaves out one of the most fastest, most secure, and decentralized blockchain that dwarfs them, Digibyte, apes together strong, diamond hands, HODL.
ian crossland
Is Digibyte anonymous, like Monero?
tim pool
I don't know.
I just know that we do get a ton of super chats from people being like, this is the one true cryptocurrency.
And I'm like, you mean the one true that you bought?
ian crossland
I'll tell you what I don't talk about a lot.
Chainlink, which I really like.
I don't really don't know a lot about it, which is why I don't talk a lot about it.
But I hear it enables interoperable blockchain experience.
tim pool
Keith Porter says, Ron DeSantis and Tulsi Gabbard for 2024.
Tulsi as the VP.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
I mean, I'd vote for it.
lydia smith
Balance.
tim pool
Yeah.
The Median says, though it might not be exact, there is a book that said two dozen years ago, everything happening now would happen.
I don't know when it will happen, but get ready for the seven worst years of your life.
Matthew 24 and Revelation, by the way.
What's your favorite flower?
Uh, I don't, I don't know.
ian crossland
That's the rose.
tim pool
Rhododendrons?
lydia smith
Rotodendrons?
Yes, good choice.
tim pool
That's just the only obscure flower name I know.
I don't even think it's obscure, which is a weird name.
ian crossland
I like the terpenes in the rose.
lydia smith
Huh.
ian crossland
It's a similar chemical that's in the marijuana plant terpenes that stink.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
What's your favorite flower?
unidentified
I don't know.
janice dean
That's a good question.
I like all flowers.
tim pool
Oh, I love dandelions.
ian crossland
What are those?
tim pool
Dandelions?
lydia smith
Dandelions are gorgeous.
tim pool
Yeah, dandelions.
You've never seen a dandelion?
ian crossland
Oh, dandelions!
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
I'd like to make some dandelion tea.
unidentified
Oh.
janice dean
Do you know what the state flower is for Maryland?
tim pool
Is it a dandelion?
janice dean
No.
lydia smith
It should be.
I don't know what it is.
janice dean
It's all over the place.
It's a black-eyed Susan.
tim pool
Oh, that's pretty.
janice dean
What is that?
tim pool
Was that named by like some dude who beat his wife or something?
lydia smith
No.
It is a member of the family Asteraceae, which is daisy, so it has like a rocket-shaped middle that's brown and the petals are yellow.
tim pool
You're not even reading this!
lydia smith
No, I love the Asteraceae flowers.
janice dean
She knows a lot.
ian crossland
She introduced me to succulents the other night.
lydia smith
Dude, they're so cool!
unidentified
Succulents!
lydia smith
I love succulents.
Yes, Michael Malinowski.
ian crossland
She's like, be gentle with them.
You don't touch them too hard.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're the best.
tim pool
All right.
Seth Rowe, Size of the Sun says, Tim often mentions he doesn't mind wearing his mask or understand what the big deal is.
I can't wear a mask due to a medical condition, and I've lived as a second-class citizen for over a year with no end in sight.
It's very different from what I say, though.
Obviously, I'm not talking about people with medical conditions, and it's a challenge.
I'm talking about people who don't have medical conditions and are just like, oh, harumph, I won't wear a mask.
I mean like, Walmart makes you wear shoes, they make you wear a shirt, they make you wear pants, they make you wear a mask.
I go to the store, I get out of my car, I put a mask on, I walk in, buy my stuff, I walk out, take it off.
I just, I'm not really bothered by it.
I don't know.
I think it's an issue of, for some people, Like, I refuse to bend the knee in any capacity, and I'm like, I'm more of a strategic get the, you know, accomplish the mission.
And if the mission is, I want to buy some freezer pizza and I got to wear a mask to do it.
ian crossland
I'll stand.
But I would stand.
tim pool
I don't call it bending the knee.
I call it like.
When the ninja wants to assassinate the feudal lord, he doesn't complain that he has to pose as a peasant farmer.
I shouldn't have to dress as a peasant farmer!
I'm a ninja warrior!
No, he's like, I must dress as a peasant warrior to sneak in and assassinate the feudal lord.
ian crossland
He bends the knee for the prey.
He does everything that is expected of a peasant.
tim pool
So that he can get close to the feudal lord and then strike.
So it's like, I'm going to go in and get My pizza.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
That's it.
janice dean
That sounded really good.
tim pool
It's just, it's just not, you know, but, but, but I have certainly have my limits, you know what I mean?
In terms of like being forced to bend the knee for things that are a violation of your principles.
I'm sorry.
Like I have this little mask with a beanie on it and I just go like, Oh, solid.
Yeah.
It's not really ruining my life by having to do that.
If someone said, you know, literally dropped to your knees, I'd be like, shut your mouth.
When Joe, Joe Biden, he's like, get the mask, you know, get the, get the Vaxor out.
So I'm like, shut up, Joe Biden.
lydia smith
I think that's a case of choosing your battles.
That's just... Right, yeah.
Like, you wear a mask.
It's not that big a deal.
But other stuff?
Bigger stuff?
tim pool
If people can't, you know, I get it.
lydia smith
Right, yeah.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Matthews Scotty Snyder says, Well, the people in Russia who did this didn't have physical access to any of these things.
But I think it's fair to say that our critical infrastructure is extremely vulnerable, and we definitely need a security revamp.
Oh, don't jump on me, YouTube.
Taz Riot says, wow, a can of Surge.
Haven't seen that in a while.
Amazing guest as well.
Yeah, I think, I think, you know, we'll get Tab next.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
But Tab is diet, isn't it?
janice dean
It is.
And it doesn't taste as good as this.
unidentified
Surge is great.
lydia smith
Crystal Pepsi.
That's what I want.
tim pool
I don't think you can get Crystal Pepsi.
janice dean
Was that a thing?
lydia smith
That was a thing.
janice dean
Why?
Why was that a thing?
lydia smith
I don't know, but Sprite Remix was also a thing that was actually really good.
Sprite Remix?
Yeah, it tastes like tropical.
tim pool
Does Mountain Dew Code Red still exist?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
Don't they have it at, like, Taco Bell?
They have the Baja Blast at Taco Bell.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
What was that citrus soda like Mountain Dew that came out?
lydia smith
Uh, Mellow Yellow.
Is that it?
unidentified
No, that's been around for a long time.
ian crossland
98 or something.
tim pool
97.
Sierra Mist?
ian crossland
Yeah, that's it!
lydia smith
Yeah.
Fake Sprite Mist.
Fake Sprite.
tim pool
All right, let's see, where are we at?
Zachary Koenig says, Tim, love your unbiased take on the madness going on.
The masks are just the government's exercise in how much control they can enact in a population.
I think for some people, probably there's corruption and exploitation of a crisis.
I think a lot of people are just scared.
Tinman says, how do you feel about hydrogen batteries?
Good?
Sounds like something up your alley.
ian crossland
I guess the fear would be that they could explode like the Zeppelin, the Hindenburg, but I hear they produce massive amounts of energy.
tim pool
Whoa, this is cool.
Thumper says, Tim, I make ethanol from tree sap and cattails to run my vehicles.
My channel is about how to do that.
Can you give me a shout out?
Yes, why don't you send us an email at, have you been?
lydia smith
Yeah, I always check spintheufo.
tim pool
Spintheufo at gmail.com because that would be really cool to do a project because making ethanol from tree sap?
ian crossland
That's awesome.
lydia smith
That's pretty cool.
ian crossland
And cattails, I love those things.
tim pool
Yeah, what are those?
Are those like the brown?
ian crossland
Yeah, with like the brown soft stuff at the top of the stalk.
tim pool
You can make ethanol from those things?
unidentified
That's cool.
ian crossland
Fascinating.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Ethanol is the stuff you can drink, right?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Menthol is the stuff that kills you.
ian crossland
You can drink with your Grandma Ethel, but you cannot drink with your Grandma Methyl.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
ian crossland
That's how I remember it.
tim pool
It blinds you.
ian crossland
I like that.
Ethanol is you can drink.
Methanol you can't.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
I think a better way to describe it is your Grandma Ethel will give you a back rub and tell you a joke so you laugh and feel good, and your Grandma Methyl will stab you in the eyes with force.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's better, actually.
lydia smith
That's pretty good.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
2GoldenBaby says, it would be great to have a spotlight shown on Murphy.
If New Jersey was a country, they would have had the highest per capita deaths in the world.
His nursing home order was the key driver for that stat.
We were in New Jersey before coming out here last year, and it was just so awful.
I was like, we gotta leave.
janice dean
New Jersey was bad.
tim pool
Real bad.
I mean, bad in terms of what he did, but just, I mean, do you know about that gym, Attilis, where they reopened?
We lived only a few miles away from those guys.
The cops had no problem going in and arresting some guy who came out and shutting him down, and really creepy stuff happened.
Like, squad cars were seen, according to some witnesses, blocking off the alleyway that went behind the building.
And then the next day, the gym flooded.
And they found paper towels jammed in the drain behind the building.
So people are questioning why there were cop cars blocking that off, and then a flood happens.
Apparently a flood happened more than one time as well.
Just very weird.
Maurice says, if when we get COVID they say stay home for two weeks, why is anyone scared?
They literally treat you by letting your body heal itself.
A vaccine seems unnecessary if it doesn't stop you from getting it.
Well, I mean, that's why I just say talk to your doctor.
People go to the TV for their medical advice.
I don't think Fauci knows what you need.
There could be somebody who's got kidney problems.
And Fauci's on TV like, just go and get it.
It's like, hold on, like, you know, your doctor's going to be like, well, you've got a kidney thing, so maybe you shouldn't or whatever.
janice dean
Dr. Fauci thought Governor Cuomo did a really good job with New York, too.
tim pool
That's all you need to hear.
So just, man, the Democrats really love their TV doctors.
Dr. Oz.
Dr. Phil.
janice dean
He's not a doctor, I don't think.
unidentified
Oh, he's not?
tim pool
No, he has a doctorate in something, but he's not a medical doctor, I think.
Oh, okay, like a psychologist or something.
Yeah, I think he's a clinical psychologist or something.
I think so, too.
I think he'll be great for CA.
You should try to get him on.
Oh!
Okay, I don't know who that is.
Oh, Talking Mud Crab says, I much prefer casual Janice over dressed up fox anchor Janice.
I didn't even recognize her.
janice dean
Wow.
Maybe because I have my hair back.
ian crossland
Oh, nice.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Love it.
tim pool
Casual Janice.
janice dean
I love being casual Janice.
lydia smith
Seems a lot more fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Is that what you do at your house all the time?
janice dean
Yeah.
I mean, all that stuff, hair and makeup is... Oh, man.
It's a lot.
I know, right?
tim pool
Right, right, right.
janice dean
We know what it's like.
tim pool
We don't do any of that.
I just sit down and turn the camera on.
janice dean
That is awesome.
tim pool
My face is all shiny or whatever.
janice dean
It's... I can't... I mean, I... Well, I started my career in radio.
I loved the fact that I could tell a story and my mom wouldn't email me and say, did you get your hair cut?
tim pool
You could like walk in and in like a sweatsuit and your hair's all messy and you're like... It's been amazing.
janice dean
Well, you know, doing weather from home has been great because they can only see me from here.
So like I've been wearing pajama bottoms the whole year.
tim pool
There was that really awful photo of Brian Stelter in like boxers or whatever.
lydia smith
Boxers and socks.
tim pool
And they thought it was good.
Like CNN was like, we're going to show this.
Like, no, don't, don't show that.
That's the point is no one's supposed to see it.
That's why, you know, but I don't, I, I don't, I wear pants.
I guess it's not hard.
I'm not worried about it.
But, uh, I remember, you know, when, um, well, I'll say now it's, it's been
really great with COVID because I went on, um, uh, primetime on Fox with Brian
Kilmeade and a van just pulls up.
No makeup, nothing.
I just sit.
It's a van with a camera in it.
It was really cool.
And, you know, I get requests periodically from Fox for like coming on and commenting.
I usually, most people send me requests.
I'm just kind of like, I'm too busy for this stuff.
But when I was living in Jersey, they would send me a car instead and then bring me to the studio and just paint my face.
unidentified
They'd pull out a paint can and just be like... Right, the airbrush?
janice dean
Did they do the airbrush?
tim pool
No, I never got that.
unidentified
Oh yeah, it's like spray paint.
tim pool
They would compliment my face and the women who did makeup would be like, wow, your face is so good, you look so young!
And then they would just like plaster.
janice dean
Yeah, right.
tim pool
And then afterwards they would give me an alcohol wipe and I'd be like, I need like 10 more of these to get it all off.
janice dean
There are some men that will go outside afterwards and not take it off.
tim pool
I have to, but you can't get it all off right away.
janice dean
You have to take a shower.
tim pool
Yeah, they give you the alcohol wipes afterwards and I'm like wiping everything off and I'm like, can I just keep, it's like it never stops.
It's like your face is a marker and you're just like, geez.
unidentified
I'm sorry about that experience.
tim pool
I don't care though, you know.
unidentified
Your skin looks great.
lydia smith
Let's plaster it with makeup.
unidentified
It does look great.
janice dean
Your skin does look great.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know, it's great.
tim pool
They're just like... A little jealous.
They're like, well, we got to stop it from shining.
So we're going to... I'm really impressed though.
I'd like have like a blemish or something.
And they'd be like, we can erase that.
And they would like, that's cool.
lydia smith
And I'd be like, wow.
janice dean
It's called an air gun.
tim pool
To get rid of it.
janice dean
We should get one of those.
The makeup from the spray.
Oh, it's an air gun.
It's called an air gun.
I think.
lydia smith
Yeah, an air spray.
tim pool
It makes you look like a robot.
When I, when I would do the remote, uh, whenever it's remote, they don't do makeup.
Is that, that's like normal, I guess.
janice dean
I guess you have to do your own.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When I went on Tucker, it was remote and I didn't, they didn't do makeup.
They just put me in a room and there's a camera.
It's like, I don't care, whatever.
Um, but Jesse Waters, it was like.
unidentified
He admitted to that?
tim pool
Jesse?
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if he did, but every time I go on a show, I think I've been on a show maybe twice or three times, they just, you know, lather it up.
janice dean
Right.
tim pool
And then I walk in the room and sit down and it's fun.
ian crossland
The age of LEDs has made it easier because when the halogen lights were so hot, if you ever sit next to a halogen, man, they just melt off.
janice dean
And HDTV changed everything.
That's when we really had to like slap on the stuff because, you know, you The HDTV, they could see every pore.
tim pool
It's like zoomed on your face.
janice dean
Yeah, it's terrible.
tim pool
Yeah.
All of a sudden everyone's like, wow, that's what they look like.
janice dean
But the lighting, the lighting has gotten better.
I was telling Lydia that I would love to have like a necklace that has the lighting so that it always comes up like this.
lydia smith
Perfectly from the bottom.
ian crossland
Oh, that's a good idea.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Million dollar idea.
ian crossland
To balance the down light.
janice dean
That's a good idea, right?
lydia smith
I love it.
unidentified
Yeah.
There you go.
janice dean
A lighting necklace.
lydia smith
Like a big locket.
ian crossland
That's a big deal.
unidentified
Yeah.
janice dean
That's a pretty good idea, right?
lydia smith
I would buy that.
tim pool
Invent the product?
ian crossland
Be like a crystal.
Yeah, I like this.
janice dean
Maybe.
lydia smith
Be pretty.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
James Orenthal Nguyen says, My kid's school district in our area of Virginia does not hold failing students behind in what seems to be residual of No Child Left Behind.
Also, we're only a few counties away from Luden.
Hi, Janice.
janice dean
Hi.
tim pool
Mr. Toad says, y'all need to check out a channel called Layton... Laytonicles.
Laytonicles?
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Greek pronunciation.
tim pool
His analysis of white fragility in particular.
His videos are getting age-restricted.
It'd be nice if we could help him out.
Check him out.
Billy 2 Cent says, Miriam Webster recently changed anti-vaxxer to include people who are against government-mandated vaccines.
Oh, and please have Karen Strawn on the show.
She said she'd come on if I badgered you.
Well, alright, we'll look into it.
Tinman says, this winter I want to go see grandma.
What's my parents and sisters?
Grandma did not give a flip about the coronavirus because in her house, she had her kids, her grandkids, and her great grandkids.
Interesting.
John Curry says, God bless you and your family, Janice.
Serial senior slayer Andrew Killer Cuomo is the most prolific serial killer in American history.
unidentified
Wow.
janice dean
You know, he has never said, like, I'm sorry for your loss or any of that.
He has zero empathy.
You know, he could have met with families.
He could have written condolence cards instead of that stupid leadership book.
At the very beginning, if he had apologized and said, you know what, I made a tremendous mistake and I'll spend the rest of my days, you know, trying to write this and it'll never happen again, instead of going on television with his brother and with his giant Q-tip.
Oh, yeah.
That's actually the day after that program when he had the giant Q-tip.
That's when I went on Tucker Carlson.
I was so angry that they continued with their comedy hour.
tim pool
Cuomo, he doesn't have empathy.
He has the opposite.
What is it?
Contempt.
Oh, and disdain.
ian crossland
Vitriol.
tim pool
For regular people.
janice dean
I just, I don't think he has any of that empathy at all.
I just think he's missing something.
A sociopath.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
I mean, look at what Cuomo, Lil Cuomo did when he faked the quarantine.
And he comes out of the basement like, this is it, I'm out.
And it's like, shut up, you lying prick.
ian crossland
That was sad.
His son, you gotta watch that clip and watch his son's face.
unidentified
Cause his son's just like, my dad is a lying trash.
Wow.
janice dean
I just love the guy on the fat tire bike who busted him.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
That was funny.
janice dean
He's like, aren't you Chris Cuomo?
tim pool
Aren't you supposed to be quarantined?
unidentified
Yeah.
That guy's a hero.
lydia smith
All right.
tim pool
Eric Wallen says, Colbert bit.
Donald Glover story.
Failing awards.
Woke may hold institutions, but the culture is shifting.
People realize that art requires bravery and moral authoritarianism stifles creativity.
Definitely.
janice dean
Yeah, I like it.
tim pool
Ryan C says, Billy passed the third grade.
Oh, what a glorious day.
Oh, passed the third grade the Billy Madison way.
Hey, there you go.
Right on.
Corporal Hillbilly says, Tim and gang, not asking for financial advice, but where are good places to get into the crypto game?
Also, don't forget Michael Knoll's new book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, haha.
I just figured out you can buy crypto on Mines.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can buy Ethereum through Mines.
tim pool
No, you can buy everything.
ian crossland
Oh, you can?
tim pool
Yeah, because they have a buy crypto button.
ian crossland
I actually was looking at that last night.
tim pool
And I just clicked it and it was like, oh, wow.
But you got to connect your wallet.
I actually like that better than going to one of the exchanges.
ian crossland
Yeah, I had some problems with Coinbase, and they're overloaded.
The customer service never got back to me, so I can't use that.
BlockFi I use, and then I move the stuff to... What's this new one that I got?
KuCoin?
That's another exchange.
But you can't buy to KuCoin.
You gotta buy in specific places, like BlockFi and Coinbase.
tim pool
The Clown World Review says, My heart has been with Janis Dean for a long time.
I'm sorry our society isn't more understanding regarding your in-laws.
Too many tribalists nowadays.
That's true.
Ooh, whoa!
Mr. Crinkle says, Tim, add Jolt Cola to your fridge beverage selection.
If I remember correctly, it had twice the caffeine of Coke.
And that's great.
Also, hey Ian, sup dude?
Jolt Cola.
lydia smith
I'm writing this down right now.
ian crossland
Jolt Surge.
tim pool
I had an idea.
I had this idea.
I think you're gonna love this.
Hear me out.
There was a story about the last blockbuster, and they set up an area of the blockbuster that looks like a 90s living room.
So you could rent it on Airbnb and go and hang out with your friends and watch a movie.
So I had an idea for a... You get like a three flat, and then the first floor is the 70s, second floor is the 80s, and the third floor is the 90s.
And then people can Airbnb, and what you do is you can actually set up the specific date of when they're, like, your stay is, you know, 1994, May 1st, you know, and the time is 24 hours.
And then what you do is you turn the TV on, and you could actually get the old archival programming, so they could turn the TV on.
unidentified
Oh, that's awesome!
tim pool
It's an old TV.
Yeah!
And then you could, like, order food, and the guy shows up with 90s-style, like, Domino's or Pizza Hut.
And then when you open the fridge, so you basically buy all the old, refurbish all the old appliances, and then people can go and... People would totally do that.
unidentified
I know.
janice dean
People need that right now.
tim pool
That would be so fun.
I want to do it.
I'd love to go to a 70s.
janice dean
I think you should do it.
tim pool
The floor, the carpets, the couch.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Do you remember, was it Grapeville?
What were you gonna say?
janice dean
No, what?
No.
ian crossland
There was like that that you got that drink and you like go and you like squish it up and down and it'd be like a juice you could drink.
tim pool
I have no idea.
ian crossland
I'm gonna look it up.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
How do we do this?
If this thing existed, where there was an Airbnb where you could be like the 70s, 80s or the 90s, I'd be like, dude, give me the 70s room right now.
That'd be awesome.
I've never been in a 70s room.
I was born in the 80s.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It'd be so cool.
janice dean
I was born in the 70s.
tim pool
So in the 80s room, you'd be like, I remember all of this.
Rainbow bright stuff or whatever.
janice dean
Definitely.
And if I could do my hair like back then, it was like this.
lydia smith
That would be so fun!
janice dean
Yes.
unidentified
Like huge.
janice dean
I mean, I have huge hair now, but it was like really big.
tim pool
But how cool.
We could take like a Raspberry Pi in.
ian crossland
Like a small computer.
tim pool
Yeah, and then put programming on it so that when you turn the TV on, you have all the different channels.
You have, you know, Channel 2, Channel 5.
Brady Bunch?
Well, whatever programming was on at the time.
janice dean
Back when life was so much simpler.
tim pool
You'd be watching, like, the fall of the Berlin Wall or whatever.
lydia smith
Wouldn't that be cool?
ian crossland
I remember seeing that.
janice dean
Yeah, you could do that.
You could have, like, a newsy part of it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Or you could change the channel and put on like Three's Company or something.
janice dean
Three's Company, remember that?
tim pool
Barely!
ian crossland
I was just watching John Ritter on Slingblade last night.
janice dean
He was very funny.
ian crossland
He was great!
janice dean
He was so good.
ian crossland
Man, he was great.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
Jolt Cola.
janice dean
Jolt Cola!
tim pool
But I don't know how you'd actually get some of these things like... Burple.
ian crossland
That's what it's called.
Burple?
Burple was like an accordion drink.
It was good.
lydia smith
Cool, I gotta look this up.
janice dean
Is it still available?
ian crossland
No, it only lasted for a few years.
tim pool
Rad number two says, please take this $20 to purchase some Rip It drinks.
lydia smith
Rip It, yes.
tim pool
Have them on hand for any guests that fought in Iraq or Afghanistan.
They'll appreciate the nostalgia trip.
What is Rip It?
lydia smith
I was gonna say, okay, so if you drink Rip It in Colorado Springs, people will come up to you and be like, holy crap, I remember this from when I was deployed, because I guess they got them in bulk for the military people who were in Afghanistan and Iraq.
So that's kind of cool.
I think that'd be really fun.
And I know that you can still get it.
We used to buy it at the dollar store.
So that's a good idea.
janice dean
What about Fun Dip?
Remember that?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, those are good.
unidentified
Right?
All sugar.
ian crossland
It was like a piece of chalk.
unidentified
It was a chalk and you would lick it and then you would put it in the sugar and you'd just eat it.
tim pool
Fun Dip!
janice dean
I remember one time I thought that I could like make a beverage out of the Fun Dip, but it didn't work.
I added water and it, no.
tim pool
So there was something we used to do in Chicago, it's called Happy, and you take a pack of Kool-Aid and a cup of sugar.
Normally you put a cup of sugar and a Kool-Aid in the water and you stir it, you got Kool-Aid.
But you put the cup of sugar and the Kool-Aid mix in a bag and shake it up, and then eat it.
lydia smith
Fun dip.
janice dean
Like fun dip.
That was your own fun dip.
tim pool
But when you were, you know, it was like cheaper, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
You called it happy?
tim pool
They called it, well, everyone called it happy.
unidentified
That's awesome.
lydia smith
That is really cute.
janice dean
That makes me happy.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
So people would have like blue and purple bags and they'd be like just like eating the sugar.
And then, but like you talk about fun dip, pixie sticks were literally tubes of sugar.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
You'd rip it and pour the sugar in your mouth.
janice dean
Remember Pop Rocks?
tim pool
I love those.
I'm pretty sure all this stuff still exists, doesn't it?
janice dean
Yeah, I'm sure it does.
And remember there was like that, um, the waxy stuff.
lydia smith
Yes, I was just thinking about that.
unidentified
You'd bite into it and then the juice would come out.
janice dean
They were like lips.
ian crossland
Did you have Big League Chew?
unidentified
Oh yes!
ian crossland
That was the gum.
janice dean
Yeah, that was that's definitely so many good ideas.
ian crossland
I got it.
I got out of my system.
tim pool
So somebody somebody super chatted in reference to Ian talking about roller rollerblading and they said Tibbs Tim slides up hitting the backside Machio to unity flicks his feet and 540s out as his inlines clack on the ground.
Tim wipes his brow.
He is pleased.
I don't think there's such thing as a backside Machio.
unidentified
So it's unfortunate really.
ian crossland
I saw you riding a rail yesterday.
tim pool
Yeah, we built a 20-foot long rail.
We want to extend it to 40 feet.
We just got the ground resurfaced, so more skateboarding is coming back.
One of the things is that it was really hard to skateboard in the parking lot because it was never sealed, so it was really rough to ride on.
But bikes and rollerblades aren't really a problem.
But we're going to have a scooter guy come out.
So we're going to get a scooter, and then we're going to have some scooter vids too.
Yeah, I'm just, we have the skate parks, so I've been skateboarding for a couple decades.
We got skateboards, bikes, rollerblades, we're gonna get scooters next.
janice dean
What about a Ferris wheel?
tim pool
A Ferris wheel?
unidentified
Rollercoaster?
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
Ah, I wish.
But you know, we want to build what's called a mini-mega.
It's a very large ramp where you roll in, and then it's got like, maybe like, I don't know, what, 10 feet maybe?
So it's this big ramp, it's 10 feet, and you launch yourself probably 30 or 40 feet.
You can get more play out of that than a Ferris wheel, I guess.
janice dean
What about a trampoline?
tim pool
That's a good idea.
janice dean
Everyone would love that.
lydia smith
I would love that.
tim pool
But like an Olympic-grade one.
janice dean
Yes, huge!
tim pool
Where you can like jump 40 feet or whatever.
janice dean
And do flips?
tim pool
Airbag.
We want to get a big airbag.
lydia smith
I like the way you think, Janice.
janice dean
I love it.
tim pool
We want to get a really big airbag and you can jump off the roof.
janice dean
I would do that.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
That'd be fun.
tim pool
That sounds awesome.
You just relax.
You just jump, and you slay, and you relax, and then... You know, I gotta admit, though, it's not as exciting as it sounds.
ian crossland
Jumping off the roof?
tim pool
Jumping off a really high thing into a pit or an airbag, because I've done it several times.
The first time you're, like, scared, and you're like, oh man, it's gonna be so exciting, and then you jump, and then it's like a split second, and you're just laying there like, oh.
janice dean
I rappelled down a building once for Fox and Friends.
You can get it online and I dropped a bad word on television.
tim pool
Why were you rappelling down a building?
janice dean
It's a Santa rappel that they do every year in Connecticut and they asked me to do it and my husband is a firefighter.
I said to him, I'm like, is this okay to do?
And he's like, oh yeah, that's totally safe.
I was like, no, you're supposed to say your wife.
You don't want your wife to go rappelling down a building.
So I did it.
I dressed in a Santa suit and I actually did it with Brian Cashman of the New York Yankees, I guess.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
How fun.
janice dean
Yeah, he does it every year.
tim pool
Was this recently?
janice dean
A couple of years ago.
tim pool
Oh, OK.
janice dean
You could Google it.
tim pool
I think I saw this.
Sounds familiar.
janice dean
And I was, you know, it was it was terrifying and I and they brought they were broadcasting live on Fox and Friends and I guess I forgot that I was on television.
Well, you know, Judge Jeanine was the one who called me and she's like, I'm like, oh no!
unidentified
So I called my boss and I'm like, I think I might have said, you know, the F word.
janice dean
And then he's like, oh, oh, okay.
I'll check that out.
And my husband was like, well, if there's ever a time for you to be able to say that word, it would be repelling down a building.
tim pool
What happens?
Do you get like fined or something?
janice dean
No, not at all.
No.
tim pool
It's just like a policy thing.
janice dean
I think so.
Yeah.
tim pool
Sam Devlin Superchats.
Just became a member at TimCast.com.
I was shocked and elated by all the cursing.
Can't wait for the weekly hangouts at Timmy P's.
Yeah.
So right now we're doing weekly vlogs.
Every Sunday we put up a video of us just hanging out or whatever, but we're slowly getting to the point where we're going to do daily.
janice dean
Oh.
tim pool
So there's going to be like a reality TV kind of thing at the studio of whatever shenanigans.
janice dean
That's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, and not a whole lot goes on when I'm working on the day, so it's just, we need to get production up to a certain level to where there's always some weird thing happening.
janice dean
If you have trampolines and stuff, there's always gonna be weird stuff happening.
tim pool
We have chickens.
They're hilarious.
janice dean
The chickens?
tim pool
Yeah, one's really mean.
Vanessa.
ian crossland
Oh no, what happened?
tim pool
So, it's really crazy, like, only a month or so ago they were so small they would sneak under the buildings to escape, to run from us.
Now they're massive.
janice dean
Are they wild chickens?
tim pool
No, I mean they're farm chickens, you know, so I we went to a farm we got we got eight two of them didn't make it and So Vanessa is I forgot what the name of it is a Plymouth something?
lydia smith
Fluid Barred Rock.
tim pool
Yeah, she's really mean.
Yeah.
So the other chickens used to be really, really scared.
Now they're kind of chill.
I can walk up and just put my hand and then you know, pet them and they'll like they'll stand on my hand and then make funny noises.
Whenever I go into the chicken city, it's like this fenced off thing.
Vanessa will like stalk me and like stare at me and if you put your hand near she'll bite your skin and she'll pull it really hard.
janice dean
Oh no!
tim pool
Yeah, she's mean.
ian crossland
She wants to love you.
tim pool
No, I think she's trying to protect the rest of the birds, like, get out of here, it's my house!
ian crossland
She's the foe, she's the rooster, because we don't have a rooster.
tim pool
Well, there's a pecking order.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, she's the boss.
lydia smith
Get it?
tim pool
But, Roberta is a Rhode Island Red, is that what it is?
lydia smith
Rhode Island Red?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
She's the biggest now, and she's got the waddle and everything.
She like, she wasn't the biggest at first, but now she's massive.
Now she's starting to put up a fight.
So we're going to put cameras, and we're going to live stream 24-7.
janice dean
That's fantastic.
People love that stuff.
tim pool
And then what we're going to do is, what I want to do is, Every time 50,000 Super Chats come in, have a machine automatically release some bugs.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like, you'll have like a rotating wheel.
And then as soon as the 50, as soon as the total amount of Super Chats hits 50, it'll spin and drop crickets.
And then the chickens will run and they'll go eat the crickets.
janice dean
Oh, they like crickets.
tim pool
Oh, they love crickets or mealworms.
And then people who are interacting by watching live can be like, I'm going to Super Chat.
Come on, everybody Super Chat so you can watch the chickens eat the bugs.
janice dean
Oh, I like that idea.
lydia smith
Isn't that great?
janice dean
It's an excellent idea.
lydia smith
I agree.
tim pool
We're- so the schedule for now is this week we got guns.
I'm gonna- Steven Crow- you know Steven Crowder?
janice dean
Yeah!
tim pool
He got me a Sig M400 from Sig and it got lost in the process.
But the company, the store, hit me up saying, we found this thing, you never got it.
I'm like, I know, there's a big, there's an issue with it.
So they finally sent it out to us over here.
Tomorrow we're gonna go film picking it up.
Finally, me getting the gun that Crowder got me almost a year, over a year ago, I think.
And then on Sunday, we're going to the range.
We're gonna go to the range in West Virginia.
janice dean
Are you gonna film all of this?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, and we're gonna put it up on YouTube.
janice dean
Oh, that's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Next week, we're going to be fixing a lot of the audio issues and video issues and filming with some scooter stuff.
And then I think the week after that is when we upgrade Chicken City and then finally get the live Chicken City show.
unidentified
It's good.
janice dean
Like you need neon lights.
unidentified
Chicken City.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's a good idea.
We have little houses and we want to put addresses on them.
lydia smith
Does that sound great?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I think we're getting a rooster.
janice dean
Oh, that'll be very interesting.
It's a different dynamic, I'm sure.
unidentified
It's The Bachelor.
Absolutely.
lydia smith
The Bachelor!
unidentified
Chicken Bachelor!
tim pool
Tonight on this episode of The Chicken Bachelor, The Chicken Bachelor is having relations with all of the available women.
unidentified
It's gonna walk out like a bow tie.
janice dean
Will there be a rose ceremony?
tim pool
All of the chickens win.
lydia smith
I do.
They're all the lucky ladies.
janice dean
Cricket, cricket ceremony.
tim pool
They love stink bugs.
lydia smith
They do.
tim pool
You bring a stink bug to the chickens and they fight over it.
janice dean
There is a stink bug on the wall?
lydia smith
There is a stink bug, yeah.
janice dean
Is that like a friendly stink bug?
tim pool
Yeah, they're really nice.
Have you named them?
No, no, there's so many.
ian crossland
I don't get attached.
tim pool
Look at them.
They're invasive, they're from China.
janice dean
That's a moth, isn't it?
tim pool
No, no, it's a stink bug.
They're actually kind of cute, the stink bugs.
They're just, if you like, you know, poke them, they just sort of move.
They don't bother you, they don't bite, they don't do anything like that.
And if they're on the wall, and you like put your finger near it, they'll just jump off and fall to the floor.
lydia smith
They're brilliant.
janice dean
Kamikaze?
Pretend that they're dead?
tim pool
No, they just jump and fall.
It's the fastest way to escape.
But if you grab them and threaten them, they emit this nasty smell.
janice dean
Have you done it before?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, you don't want to.
Really?
I mean, when you try to pick them up, if they get threatened, it's just like, whoa.
lydia smith
But I handle them all the time, and they've never stunk at me.
tim pool
That's kind of weird.
Yeah, because they're pretty chill.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're super low-key.
janice dean
Is it like a skunk smell?
tim pool
No, it's weird.
It's just a strong odor.
lydia smith
There's a reason they're called stink bugs.
tim pool
Yeah, it's musty.
It kind of smells like if you walk into an old cabin that's not been cleaned in months, and you're like, what's that smell?
unidentified
Gross.
tim pool
But you throw it in the chicken city, and they run up and they grab it, and they'll fight over it.
They'll try and rip its limbs off.
janice dean
The stink bug?
tim pool
Oh, they love them.
janice dean
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, imagine if someone threw you a burrito, you know what I mean?
janice dean
I would subscribe to that.
tim pool
I really would.
Chicken City is the next show on the list.
lydia smith
My kids would love it.
janice dean
They would come home at night or after school and they would watch that.
tim pool
So what we'll do is we're going to have a GoPro.
They're all going to be synced in.
And then once, you know, people could super chat $5, $10.
But as soon as every $50 increment, it'll drop some bugs.
And then you'll watch the chickens and the camera go after the bugs.
ian crossland
Can they overeat?
Is that possible?
tim pool
Yes, but we're not going to put that many bugs in.
janice dean
I'm glad you're thinking about that.
tim pool
So there's six, which means if we only had like 20 mealworms, then they're not going to overeat by eating those mealworms.
And it would rotate once and drop like four or five of them.
And so there'd be a cap.
But I think we'd actually give them a decent amount of bugs without overfeeding them.
The thing about mealworms I was reading is that chickens don't want to stop eating mealworms because they're delicious.
lydia smith
They're like goldfish.
janice dean
They're called mealworms.
tim pool
And they'll get sick.
But if you give them regular feed, they're fine.
And, you know, we're going to Chicken City, next show on the list.
So the vlog and Chicken City.
janice dean
I'm very excited about this.
This is the best news that I've gotten.
tim pool
Chicken City.
ian crossland
More people will do it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
And so we'll show you the chicken thing we got.
There's a little trap door.
A trap door?
Well, it's not a trap door.
There's a little door you can pull up and allow the chickens to go into the farm area.
So we have half the lawn is like a farm.
So what you do is after you harvest all of the vegetables and everything, then you let the chickens go in and just do their business because they eat the bugs and they fertilize it.
And then in the springtime, you let them back in again for about a week or two, two weeks, and they till the land and fertilize it.
And then you can plant everything and it grows and it's better.
And so you have this cycle of chickens and you know.
ian crossland
If we let them out now, would they eat the seeds?
tim pool
Yeah, they destroy it.
So we don't want to do that, but that's the plan for the next show.
janice dean
And what about Vanessa?
tim pool
Yeah, Vanessa's mean.
lydia smith
She's a constant threat.
tim pool
She's mean.
janice dean
She's the villain of the TV program.
tim pool
A little bit, yeah.
Well, actually, yeah, she was pecking the other chickens, and I was like, hey, hey, knock it off.
She was mean.
But now, now Roberta's standing up to her.
unidentified
Oh, good.
tim pool
So, like, we gotta get this Chicken City show on the road, because, yeah, it's drama.
It's dramatic.
janice dean
We can't tease us like this anymore.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We have the tripod set up.
We're really close to doing it, but we're gonna have someone come out to actually make sure everything's set up properly for the chickens.
janice dean
It has to be perfect.
tim pool
It has to be perfect.
lydia smith
It does.
tim pool
And then we have to build the system for how to dispense bugs.
janice dean
Oh, huge.
tim pool
So every morning, we go in and throw, like, a small handful of, like, 50 crickets or something.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they would just be chilling in this little tube, eating food and doing cricket stuff.
unidentified
And then we would just have like a little motor going... Strangely calming, I would think.
For the crickets?
tim pool
It sounds great.
janice dean
Like very zen, I think.
I would... Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And then what... So here's another big piece of it.
I need to hire a composer.
So anybody listening, we need somebody who can make music.
consistently all day, every day.
Once we get a few hours worth of, um, some music, we're going to make lo-fi hip hop beats to watch chickens to.
And then people can turn it on and hear like music while they're working and then watch the chickens just, you know, chicken way.
lydia smith
I know someone who could do that for us.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, there we go.
lydia smith
Let's make it happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Chicken wave.
So you turn it on and it's just, you know, chickens doing their thing and you're listening to music.
And you're like, you know, writing stuff and... Studying, yeah.
janice dean
Interesting music.
Exactly.
tim pool
So people who write work are studying.
Well, there's that really popular YouTube channel, Lo-Fi Hip-Hop Beats, to study to.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
And there's like a girl and she's drawing on a lute.
But it's gonna be the chickens and high def, so...
unidentified
It's huge.
tim pool
It'll be the biggest show in the world.
It'll get hundreds of millions of views per day.
janice dean
You say that, but I think that you're on to something.
tim pool
Chicken City.
janice dean
Yes.
tim pool
Just live streaming the chickens.
lydia smith
We'll see how it goes.
I'm stoked.
tim pool
We don't have that many.
I mean, you go to one of these farms and they have like 50 to 100 chickens.
janice dean
Right.
tim pool
But then you lose the intimacy.
We need to be able to... So the chickens are all different breeds.
Easily identifiable.
You know who the Roberta is.
You know who Sarah is.
janice dean
Yeah.
tim pool
They're all named.
They all have names that are chicken names.
Like Carol Cluck.
ian crossland
We'll get their bios up.
janice dean
Carol Cluck.
ian crossland
Yes.
lydia smith
They all need bios.
tim pool
We should make shirts for each of them.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And then we actually, one of the friends of the show was like, you know, I said, you know, he has chickens.
I said, are you going to eat your chickens?
He goes, yeah, after three or four years when they stop laying eggs.
And I was like, we're not.
These are going to be the stars of our show.
They live about 10 years.
And, you know, his attitude was kind of like, oh, well, I guess I wouldn't think about it that way.
And I was like, no, these chickens are going to live the good life.
lydia smith
The best life.
tim pool
So we'll have T-shirts and you could have like, you know, Team Vanessa and Team Roberta.
janice dean
It's all coming together.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Chicken City.
Anyway, thanks for hanging out, Janice.
Oh my gosh.
janice dean
Honestly, this is like the best time I've had in a long time.
tim pool
Hey, thanks for coming.
It's been fun.
It's Friday night, hanging out, talking about chickens to wrap things up.
janice dean
You better do it because if you don't, I'm coming after you.
tim pool
Oh, we got it.
It's like 80% of the way there.
We got the power outlet there.
We have the plan.
I'll send you the link.
We can wirelessly capture all the video and everything.
We've already run tests on it.
Right now we just need to... It's not so easy to launch multiple shows.
The vlog is what we're working on right now because we can vlog the creation of Chicken City.
janice dean
Okay.
tim pool
Maybe we should have done Chicken City first because you get it live and then you walk away.
janice dean
Do a documentary on it.
tim pool
on the creation of Chicken City.
janice dean
I need to know how this all came about.
tim pool
All right.
Well, we'll do a special mini doc for the for the for the vlog.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And talk about Chicken City.
janice dean
Thank you so much for having me today.
tim pool
Thanks for coming.
This has been a lot of fun.
So for everybody listening, smash that like button on your way out.
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But other shows, too.
The Paranormal Show is on the list.
We're going as fast as we can.
Hiring people is very, very hard.
Quality control is very difficult.
So it takes time.
But with your support at TimCast.com, it's going to be epic.
And we're also on Instagram at TimCastIRL.
Is there anything you wanted to shout out, Janice?
I mean, you have books, you're a famous Fox person.
unidentified
Chicken City!
janice dean
Chicken City!
lydia smith
We have a big spokesman for Chicken City.
tim pool
We're gonna sample that of you singing.
And we're going to make a song with it, and that's going to be... And by agreeing to appear on the show, we have the right to use you singing it.
janice dean
You do whatever you need to do.
I'm happy to be a part of it.
unidentified
And I want to thank my kids and my mom.
tim pool
Every time the $50 of Super Chats comes in and the bugs roll, it's going to yell you singing Chicken City!
lydia smith
Yes!
unidentified
That was good.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
So is that what you wanted to promote?
janice dean
Anything else?
You know, I'm just here.
unidentified
All right.
ian crossland
Cool.
janice dean
Just me and me.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
janice dean
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Shout out to Stella.
unidentified
Stella!
What up, Stella?
lydia smith
Thanks for tuning in, Stella.
ian crossland
Yes.
Thank you guys for coming.
And you know, I'm Ian Crossland.
Follow me on Mines at Ian Crossland.
Hit my iancrossland.net.
If you wanna.
And thanks for coming, Jason.
janice dean
Send me some pictures of the lightning.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, the sprites.
lydia smith
Super cool.
And you guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter as I continue my journey to have more followers and Sour Patch Kids at Sour Patch Lids.
And yes, we will get some Chicken City stuff going.
Chicken City!
tim pool
There's two more Super Chats I'm going to read because one is more business.
Plum God said, Tim, I'm an algorithmic composer and I make endless loops and variations of lo-fi ambient beats.
Send an email to spintheufo at gmail.com.
And then I got to read this one from Matthew Schultz.
He says, why is Tim talking about his chickens more compelling than anything on cable?
And then Vanessa Stoller says, Team Vanessa.
lydia smith
Of course, yes!
Yes, that makes sense.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
Thank you so much for hanging out on this Friday night, and we will see you all Monday.
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