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Timcast IRL - Biden DEFENDS Chinese Internment Camps In Gaffe Laden Town Hall w/Jack Murphy
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tim pool
you we're gonna start off this episode just by saying rest in
peace Rush Limbaugh He is the, I don't know, I guess the godfather of talk radio.
As most of you know, whether you're a conservative or not, talk radio became big basically because of Rush Limbaugh, and then because of that emerged other formats of something similar.
Different ideas, different ideologies, different politics.
Ultimately, podcasting.
Shows like this.
I know a lot of conservatives are saying that every conservative talk host, you know, owes their beginning to Rush Limbaugh, but let's be real.
I mean, this format, he was the one who was doing it.
He was the one who got the show syndicated.
And whether you like the guy or not, you know, he broke ground in this field.
I don't know if any of you guys who are, you know, you want to mention anything about Rush before we get started.
jack murphy
You know, for me, Rush Limbaugh has helped my life today because my girlfriend I've been with for many years, she grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh as her grandfather listened to Rush at lunch.
So they'd have lunch together and Rush Limbaugh would be on.
It was the background to her life.
And so when I met her, She already had that whole landscape laid out by Rush, so I'm eternally grateful to him for that.
And just a guy who can put in that time, energy, effort, be consistent, persistent, bring that excellence every single day.
It's something to celebrate and rest in peace, Rush.
It's a sad day.
Sad day for sure.
ian crossland
I never really had much of a chance to listen to his work growing up, but I had a friend that and his mother also was a huge fan.
Mad respect to pioneers like that.
jack murphy
Definitely.
And just the grind.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a lot of people on the left who are saying he doesn't deserve it, he's an awful person, there's nothing good to say about him.
And I'm like, look, whether or not you think someone was good or bad, we want to make sure that only the good things that they did, we remember them for the best of their abilities.
Rush Limbaugh pioneered this space.
Let's give him credit and focus on the good things.
And let the bad things, the things you don't like, just go away and not get, you know, not become part of the culture.
You've got to criticize bad things.
But that being said, you know, rest in peace.
And we're going to talk about a lot of news, a lot of serious stuff.
Apparently, recently, Joe Biden was giving a town hall.
It was gaff laden.
And he made one of the most insane statements I've ever heard.
I couldn't believe it when I woke up and I see this post.
He was asked about criticizing China.
And he said he wasn't going to criticize concentration camps.
And what's going on?
Because China has different cultural issues, basically.
The things that we need to talk about in this segment are so egregious that we run the risk of YouTube, you know, giving us the ban hammer for simply mentioning.
So we try to tiptoe.
We try to use euphemism and keep it family friendly.
But I'm telling you, we've heard the horror stories of history.
What's going on right now in China will go down in history as one of the most vile and disgusting acts of human rights abuses ever.
Not the most.
I'm not saying the most.
There were some really, really bad things that happened throughout history.
But definitely, definitely one of the worst, so.
And we've got a bunch of other stuff to talk about as well.
We've got, you know, that Amy Cooper woman.
She was the Central Park Karen.
Essentially forced to undergo re-education therapy at an equity-critical race theory center in exchange for not going to jail.
So that, I think, is particularly shocking.
And we'll get into other things, of course.
As you probably realize, Jack Murphy is hanging out.
jack murphy
What's up, everybody?
Good to be back every other Wednesday.
Jack Murphy on TimCast.
By the way, head over to my YouTube page, please.
YouTube.com forward slash JackMurphyLive.
New videos every day now.
Great interview today with Matt Brainerd.
luke rudkowski
Check it out.
jack murphy
Appreciate it.
Good to be back.
luke rudkowski
I was going to say, it will go down in history if China doesn't win.
Because if China wins, they're going to rewrite history in their own kind of version.
Also, today I was officially fact-checked by USA Today with one of my memes.
And in response to that, I am memeing up a storm on Instagram under LukeWeAreChange.
If you want to support me and my voluntary work here, the best and easiest way is to go to thebestpoliticalshirts.com and buy a shirt.
And you can buy a shirt like the one that I'm wearing right now.
tim pool
What was the meme?
luke rudkowski
The meme was a picture of Joe Biden with a huge, like crazy, ridiculous stack of executive orders.
And it said, history will show that a dumbass with a pen is far more dangerous than the smartass with a tweet.
And obviously it's doctored.
And then USA Today said, no, no, no, he didn't have that many executive orders.
I mean, yes, it's covering the whole desk.
It's ridiculous.
It's supposed to be ridiculous.
It's a meme.
Employees from USA Today who consider themselves journalists spent Today, looking at my Facebook account and saying, that meme?
You know, people shouldn't know that he had that many executive orders.
People shouldn't be joking about this.
Cut it off.
tim pool
Memes are forbidden.
luke rudkowski
I know.
They're going after memes.
tim pool
The other day, Twitter blocked this tweet where it said, uh, you stole my heart like a 2020 election.
Trump.
And they blocked the tweet.
They censored it.
You can't reply to it.
You can't like it, but you can quote it.
I'm like, dude.
luke rudkowski
It's satire.
It's comedy.
ian crossland
No more humor.
tim pool
It was a meme.
It was a photograph.
Which means, I really doubt they used an AI to scan the language of the image.
Someone saw that and was like, voter fraud isn't real, and literally banned the silly joke that was just making fun of the situation.
luke rudkowski
I'm telling you, they're going to go after art, they're going to go after any form of expression, music, everything.
Everything's coming next.
It's not just politics.
tim pool
Right now we got Ian hanging out.
ian crossland
What up, everybody?
I came down from the tower, the wizard tower, to tell you about IanCrosland.net, my new social network.
unidentified
Well, it's more of a website where you can get coffee mugs like this.
ian crossland
Free-to-code coffee mug if you support freeing the software code like I do.
Jack, great to have you here.
jack murphy
I'm so glad to be back.
ian crossland
This China thing is freaking me out.
tim pool
Well, we'll get in on that.
We're about to jump right in.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
So we also got to... Sorry, Patch, let's press our buttons.
lydia smith
Yeah, I've got me in the corner.
So I love Rush Limbaugh because I have a similar story to Jack's girlfriends.
My grandfather used to listen to him every morning in his room, and I would hear it through, like, the guest room door.
I thought it was my first exposure to politics.
He was a really great guy.
tim pool
You know what I like about Rush Limbaugh?
He voiced himself on Family Guy.
Several times.
And even for a full episode.
And the left loves to mock that I brought that up.
And there's people saying, like, Tim Poole and his dumb pop culture references.
I'm like, yes.
Regular people in this country who watch Family Guy for the first time was like, oh, that's Rush Limbaugh.
That's what he sounds like.
I didn't know that.
Rush Limbaugh did a show, Family Guy, with Seth MacFarlane, one of the, like, liberal, like, most American liberal you can get, hated Donald Trump, very, you know, established, pro-establishment Democrat, and he actually had Rush Limbaugh come on the show several times, and they worked together, and apparently they were friends.
That's good.
That's a good thing.
It's also, but you know what?
Look, ideologues absolutely hate it.
I love that we can still find ways to love and laugh together.
So, you know, I'll leave the... I think enough's been said in that regard.
But before we get started, head over to TimCast.com, become a member.
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We have this from the New York Post.
Biden dismisses Uyghur internment camps because we have to keep the language family-friendly.
luke rudkowski
We can't even say that word?
tim pool
No, we can't.
luke rudkowski
Oh, goodness.
tim pool
You can't say it.
luke rudkowski
I'm writing it in my journal.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no joke.
What's going on in China?
We can't say it.
ian crossland
What's the word?
What's the first and last letter of the word?
tim pool
I guess it's a G. We can call them internment camps.
We can call them forceful reeducation centers.
We can say that women are being held down while men come in and force themselves upon the women.
The women are undergoing forced surgeries and other extreme forced sterilization as well as the forceful This is brutal, dude.
This is brutal.
There's more?
ian crossland
We should do it in the bonus segment and just be explicit.
tim pool
There's so much more.
Joe Biden, when asked about this, he basically said, you know, I'm not going to criticize them because, you know, they got different culture.
I couldn't believe it.
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
I could not believe it.
ian crossland
It makes me think of, and I always hate bringing up the Nazis.
I feel like they get too much publicity as it is, but the way that the British appeased them and people, like they voted Hitler time man of the year.
tim pool
Oh yeah, was it Neville Chamberlain?
ian crossland
Neville Chamberlain was like, peace in our time.
Yeah, yeah, let's give them the Sudetenland, is that what it is?
And then they were like, and then if we just give them this land, they won't, they won't aggress anymore.
And like, if you give these totalitarian regimes and give and give, you're just empowering them.
tim pool
Biden is suckling the teat of communist China.
ian crossland
I don't know what to do, because what's the other option?
jack murphy
War?
ian crossland
I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
jack murphy
Do we remember back when Donald Trump mentioned that we do bad things?
Remember, and everybody was so mad that he questioned American exceptionalism, right?
That is an interesting case to keep in mind when we look at this because what happened with Joe Biden is that he negated.
50 years of American foreign policy, 50 years of American political philosophy, 50 years of us developing this notion of universal human rights based on sort of postmodern American liberal values, which are meant to be universal in nature, which is why we went into Iraq, they said.
Which is why we went into Afghanistan, they said.
Which is why we went into Vietnam, they said.
To push our universal American values of American liberalism.
Yeah.
Just in that one moment, Joe Biden introduced the notion of moral relativism.
And he says, hey, they got a different culture.
They do things a little bit differently.
Immediately negating our entire philosophical foreign policy position.
Immediately negating American exceptionalism and just neutering this idea of universal liberalism.
People around the world rejoice when he hear Joe Biden say something like that.
luke rudkowski
Well, his words were very important because it was almost as he was excusing the activities.
He was talking about China's history whenever China wasn't united.
They were attacked from the outside and he talked about how this is the cultural norms.
Well, if it's your cultural norm to Stripped down and have been forced on women to have forced sterilization camps internment camps.
jack murphy
I'm trying to watch my words on unrequested insemination.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
luke rudkowski
That's that's one way that we could say it if we're going to have something like that excuse as a culture that's absolutely inexcusable and it's extremely dangerous not just for the Uyghur Muslims, but for all the other people that are going to be under the Chinese umbrella and because of the Belton Road initiative because of China's What you just said, Jack.
I said that Joe Biden neutered American exceptionalism.
of people are going to be subjugated under China in the near future.
unidentified
What you just said, Jack. What did you, what did you, uh, I said that Joe Biden neutered American
jack murphy
exceptionalism. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, unrequested, uh, insemination.
tim pool
Women are being held down. So this news broke.
A witness came out and said that her job in the camps was to basically pin the women down while the men came in.
luke rudkowski
Take their clothes off, and then... Yeah, this was reported by the BBC, by the way.
tim pool
Force themselves upon them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We also got numerous reports that many of the women who, on their own, of their own volition, became pregnant, had the Chinese government paramilitary forcefully end those pregnancies.
So they're forcefully sterilized.
ian crossland
They're trying to sterilize the Uyghur population but force the Han genetic code into other Uyghur women?
jack murphy
Yes.
luke rudkowski
There's also videos of children being taken away from their parents and then being told to repeat that the Chinese government, the Chinese state, the Chinese country is their mother now.
So what's happening right now, especially with some of the drone footage that's been leaked of individuals being hooded and put on trains, is absolutely terrifying.
Especially when you see the larger response.
Especially when you see on Twitter an embassy from the Chinese government officially say that it's women's rights that they're promoting.
Women's equality and women's freedom when they have these forced sterilizations on them.
That's the kind of like crazy, insane, woke language that they're trying to use to justify this.
And you see, you just saw Joe Biden usher an utter CCP, Chinese Communist Party talking points to the American public like it was normal.
jack murphy
Where did he get the talking points from?
tim pool
I want to say, I'll say two things.
The first thing is we had China Uncensored on the show.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And they said this, the Biden administration has people involved that like what China is doing in terms of their expansion and have praised them.
Now, I want to read you what Biden said.
They say, Here's a quote, I'll just read the quote.
I point out to him, I'm assuming this is Xi Jinping, no American president can be sustained as a president if he doesn't reflect the values of the United States.
The US president continued.
And so the idea that I am not going to speak out against what he's doing in Hong Kong, what he's doing with the Uyghurs in Western mountains of China and Taiwan, trying to end the one China policy by making it forceful.
Xi gets it.
Culturally, there are different norms that each country and their leaders are expected to follow.
The norms in China, as shown in a recent BBC News expose, include systemic torture and, as we mentioned, women being held down and men coming in and forcing themselves in these concentration camps.
Following the release of the BBC report, China banned the outlet in its territory.
Because it is happening.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's also a new rule in China where bloggers have to get a government approved license and credential to talk about politics and foreign policy.
But you could still talk about entertainment, food and beverages.
ian crossland
So that's the new rule.
jack murphy
Where is that?
luke rudkowski
China.
In China, they instituted new policies.
jack murphy
It was close enough to being like, that just happened in the U.S.?
For me to be like, wait, whoa, whoa, hold on a second.
ian crossland
It sounds like what Biden's saying is the only reason he's going to talk disparagingly about what they're doing is because he doesn't want to lose his job.
jack murphy
Exactly right.
He has to reflect the norms of his country to stay president, whereas also he was saying that he also has to reflect the norms of his country.
luke rudkowski
Well, China's influence is very vast.
They're not only expanding all over the world, but they're expanding with a lot of multinational billionaire corporations that do have a big influence in the United States, whether it's Nike, Apple, Disney, you name them.
The ties of the Chinese money It goes to universities, goes to a lot of our key institutions that set policy.
So are we at a stage, and I think we should be seriously asking ourselves, where the Chinese have already infiltrated us successfully and are dictating policy?
And that's not a crazy question to ask.
I think that's a legitimate question to ask.
jack murphy
They're all over the place.
Just when Corona was breaking was that scandal of the CCP agents at Ivy League institutions as spies carrying viruses through the U.S.
tim pool
illegally.
Yeah, the story was, I thought it was going to be a bigger story.
That people who were spies for the Chinese government were smuggling in viruses.
ian crossland
No joke.
I hate that the CCP is considered the Chinese government.
That's like calling the Nazi party the German government.
And they like co-opted that country through violent takeover and subterfuge.
And Mao's communist revolution basically seized control of that country with a monoparty.
luke rudkowski
Well, they rule with an iron fist.
They have a social credit score.
You say the wrong thing in some jurisdictions in China, they will take you, put you in a police room, tie you down, and make you apologize on camera, doing unspeakable things to you.
Again, it was surprising also to see a response from Naomi Wolf surrounding this particular issue.
She wrote that she wanted her vote back specifically after seeing this video with Joe Biden.
She's not the brightest.
Another thing, I did a full video about this on WeAreChange, but I talked about this because people are always expecting a hot war between China and the United States, because we're already at a currency war, a trade war, and the next logical step is a hot war, but I think the war is already being fought, and it's fought with this larger context of generational warfare.
It's here, in my opinion, and if you look At what is happening in our schools, the United States is losing.
It's losing badly, not just with the suicide rates, not just with the increases of mental health crisis in our schools, not just with the increases of depression, but even with masculinity.
You see China actively trying to make their boys more masculine.
In the United States, we have a lot of universities, a lot of schools talking about how masculinity is, of course, toxic.
And Joe Biden just even Got rid of a directive that ends transparency of the Chinese government with their ties to American universities.
tim pool
You guys ever play the video game Civilization?
unidentified
Yeah.
jack murphy
I played the original.
ian crossland
Me too.
tim pool
Civilization 2 is my favorite.
ian crossland
It was awesome.
tim pool
But I have, I think, what are we on?
Six now?
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
One of the ways you can win is called a cultural victory.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's where you generate culture that spreads across the planet and seeps into all the other nations.
And obviously, you know, life imitates art, art imitates life, and all that stuff.
ian crossland
Blue jeans and rock and roll, baby.
tim pool
In the game Civilization.
You can win the game by having your culture dominate the world.
It doesn't matter if you can control the government of these countries, because your culture, the ideas that spread, essentially dictate the behaviors of the individuals.
Another thing that happens in the game is that if you have cities that are surrounding other countries' cities, and your culture is just, you're mass-producing it, eventually those cities request to join your nation, or you can lose your city.
I bring that up because it is, it's just, you know, art imitates life, life imitates art.
ian crossland
It's the culture war, man.
tim pool
Right now, in the United States, we have the NBA praising China, defending China.
This was a big scandal.
We have the NBA banning free Hong Kong jerseys, suckling the teat of China, not the United States.
In the United States, we believe in free speech.
We support the right of the people in Hong Kong to protest.
Why would this massive multinational corporation, now it's surprising, you know, it's funny the NBA has become that, Why would they side with China over us?
Because we already lost.
That's it.
luke rudkowski
China even released statements supporting Black Lives Matter protests in the United States.
Joe Biden, one of the first things he also did was sign an executive order banning the term China virus as soon as he came into office, but of course he keeps talking about the UK variant for some reason and doesn't I really understand the larger kind of context surrounding that.
But, you know, we have to understand, Joe Biden also made a statement a couple years ago.
We knew this was coming.
Everyone saw this coming.
I mean, anyone paying attention saw the writing on the wall.
A few years ago, Joe Biden said that a rising China is a positive development.
He put in a lot of people in his State Department that also believe in a similar idea, that China rising on the world stage, helping out the global economy is going to be good for everyone's pocketbooks.
tim pool
Not just theirs.
luke rudkowski
And exactly.
And exactly the people that they serve, since Joe Biden is a career politician that is known for always selling out the people.
All right.
jack murphy
I got two things to say about China.
You mentioned the word masculinity.
I can't let that go.
So I'm going to chime in on that.
But the first thing I'm going to say is that the saddest, most disgusting part of this whole thing about China is how are they financing the Belt and Road?
How are they financing all the national corporations?
No.
Where did they get the money, dude?
luke rudkowski
Yes, special interest.
jack murphy
No U.S.
dollars from us dummies from all of us buying money, buying things from China and sending them U.S.
unidentified
dollars.
jack murphy
They are mercantilist.
They have stockpiled U.S.
dollars and U.S.
assets, and now they're using them to buy up hard assets.
So, guys, we have traded ports, airports, you know, transportation hubs, infrastructure for cheap Chinese televisions.
Now, the second thing I want to say is if China.
is advocating masculinity for its men.
They know masculinity is a Lindy value.
Masculine people build, create, protect, provide, and instruct.
That sounds like a winning combination for civilization.
In America, what do we do?
The American Psychological Association deems masculinity toxic.
Risk-taking, competitiveness, aggression needs to be medicated and therapeutically removed from children.
We have a formal demasculinization policy in America to make us weak, to make us less build, less builders, less of creators, less of protectors, less of providers, less of instructors.
Whereas China knows that that's where the money is and that's where the power is.
And so they're advocating it.
This is a new twist.
And I was not aware.
luke rudkowski
And it's been in the works for a while, especially if you look at the testosterone rates and the fertility rates in the West, especially in the United States that are absolutely dropping.
jack murphy
Testosterone rate, testosterone, group testosterone levels are down.
Fertility and sperm rates are, uh, you know, sperm counts are down.
And I got, we got railed for this last time I talked about grip strength on this show.
Yeah.
Some guy, some guy made a video and just was mocking us the whole time.
It was like, you got like 20,000 views on it.
It was funny.
All about grip strength.
Yes.
Group grip strength is down.
Why is that important?
Because it is a factor is a data point that shows that men are weak.
ian crossland
Apparently hanging from tree branches will help.
jack murphy
It does, but we don't do that anymore because we keep our boys locked up inside, medicated, restricted, and we tell them that competitiveness and aggression and winning, winning is bad.
Everybody gets a medal.
ian crossland
What's this company you mentioned that said that masculinity is toxic?
jack murphy
The American Psychological Association, the largest mental health professional association in America, believes that masculinity is toxic and must be treated.
ian crossland
Oh, that's gross.
jack murphy
It's disgusting.
It's everywhere.
And by the way, last bit of the rant, it is at the heart of the feminist argument, right?
All societies have been patriarchal.
All patriarchal societies are oppressive.
Where does this patriarchal power come from?
Men.
What fuels that?
Masculinity.
Masculine energy.
How do we end oppression?
How do we end patriarchies?
We got to eliminate masculine energy.
And that is why to be masculine today is to be a pariah, is to be a political dissident.
And if you believe in this, come check us out.
Liminal Order.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story, because it's in a similar vein.
This is from the New York Post.
Charges against Central Park Karen, Amy Cooper, dismissed.
You may be wondering to yourself, what does this story have to do with masculinity and China and all that?
Everything, actually.
This is the story of the woman in Central Park, where she had her dog, not on a leash, and this other guy, whose name was Chris Cooper.
Strange, they're not related, different names.
And he was basically saying, put your dog on a leash, she said no, he tried offering the dog treats, she wigged out, started screaming, saying you're threatening me, called the police, and she got arrested and charged with filing a false police report.
In order to get the charges dismissed, as the New York Post reports, she underwent a psycho-education at the Critical Theory Center, or something like that, where they focused on equity.
They say Christian, who is in no relation to Amy, was telling the woman to leash her dog.
Quote, psycho-education about racial equity is woven into each therapy session to prompt understanding and reflection.
A Lizzie, uh, uh, Illizzie Orban told the judge of Amy Cooper's time with the critical therapy center in Manhattan
Miss cooper's therapist reported that she was uh, it was a moving experience and that miss cooper learned a lot in
their sessions together As if she would speak she said no
They're going to basically explain This is about racial equity training.
That instead of going to jail, she was given the chance to go to the, you know, critical therapy center.
The critical therapy center.
To undergo therapy sessions.
Individualized.
Psychoeducation, they called it.
In China, they enforce their ideology, which is China above all else.
They will destroy you.
They will weld your doors shut.
They will kidnap you in the middle of the night, and they will beat you, unless you are 100% for China.
China is trying to make, as Luke mentioned, their men more masculine.
In the US, we have similar things.
They're now telling people to go to re-education centers instead of jail.
But they're beating you down.
They're telling you to hate America.
They're telling young men to not be masculine and not be strong.
It's flowing in one direction.
A direction that ultimately results in China taking over the world stage, becoming the ultimate superpower.
And my question to you is this.
Would you like to live under Chinese rules?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Of course not.
Of course not.
Well, that's the direction things are going.
When the NBA comes out and you have these stars being like, hey man, don't rag on China, they pay me a lot of money.
In the pocket of the Communist Party.
That means that you, your kids, your family, but you know what?
Here's the other thing that's happening.
As you mentioned, fertility rates are down, people don't have kids to worry about, and they're not going to worry about it.
In America, I think we are being exploited and extracted.
I think the Chinese Communist Party knew Thucydides' trap was predicting a hot war.
So they said, how can we make it so that people won't fight a war?
Well, if they don't have kids, they won't care to fight.
ian crossland
This is really interesting.
Kissinger developed this concept of limited war after World War II in the 60s or something.
And basically they wanted to avoid a hot war, a total war in his words.
So they've started making proxy wars.
Vietnam was a proxy war.
It was a limited war.
Iraq, Afghanistan, limited wars.
They don't want a total war with China.
So now it seems like they don't even want an armed war with China.
They just want to make it a cultural war.
jack murphy
No, China doesn't want an armed war with us.
They're beating us in a fourth generation war right now.
ian crossland
I think even the global banking industry that's cartelling this arms race doesn't want a hot war.
tim pool
So, just citing the San Diego paper that came out, fourth involved insurgent groups, fifth involved psychological warfare, explicitly.
jack murphy
Okay, fine.
Fourth and fifth together.
But not only that, they have dumped a bunch of fentanyl in our country.
tim pool
And designer drugs, it's more than that.
Where are these kids up in Massachusetts getting their drugs for?
For their raids?
Or for their raves?
They go online, and they order it, and it's made in China.
jack murphy
We used to get ours from Holland.
It was much more fun back then.
But China is polluting our country with drugs.
They're polluting our universities with this communist Marxist ideology.
They're helping advance this agenda of weakening our men.
They're taking over transportation and infrastructure hubs all around the world.
They have co-opted.
They have co-opted the state sport of Indiana basketball.
If we don't even control the highest expression of an American homegrown sport like basketball anymore, I know it seems kind of flimsy if you think about it or just sort of not really related, but it is what could be more related than that?
They've captured an American institution.
luke rudkowski
Well another thing to really think about here as China's building power grids all over the world, ours is failing.
Indeed.
As we're spending trillions of dollars on wasteful wars like Afghanistan, China's not doing that.
They're building bases and building relationships with a whole bunch of countries in the Middle East as they're becoming the number one trading partner with countries like Iran that they're trading oil for military gear for.
And when you see this kind of presence, when you see this kind of prominence, you really have to start asking yourself, what is the United States doing?
Well, they're doing a 9-11 style commission surrounding the insurrection, which is, again, another waste of time.
Nothing about helping the people, increasing our wealth, increasing our health, increasing our existence on this planet.
Only more stuff that, of course, divide and conquers us.
And what's Biden's number one policy right now?
Taking away firearms, disarming people, making them defenseless, as he's going to go after the Second Amendment soon.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
It's all just an indication of the collapse.
I mentioned this the other episode, there's a funny article from NPR.
It says National Guard will remain in D.C.
until the fall.
unidentified
The fall is the season or the fall?
jack murphy
What we're emphasizing here, and Luke, you mentioned it just now, is a great example.
Our institutions are not only failing us, but they're counterproductive in our lives anymore.
Institutions were meant to give you resources, information, health, meaning.
Right.
They give you none of that.
Now, all of our institutions have been co-opted and captured.
And if you listen to what the institutions tell you, if you listen to conventional wisdom, where are you going to end up?
Well, let's see.
Nutritional pyramid.
Oh, I'm going to be fat.
Oh, go to college and borrow a bunch of money.
Oh, I'm going to be in debt.
Oh, get a job.
And now I'm chained to my desk.
If you listen to our institutions, if you just listen to what they tell you to do, it is a fact you will end up fat, sick, chained to a desk.
And in debt for the rest of your life.
tim pool
With three masks on.
jack murphy
With three masks on while you're alone in your own Chinese manufactured car.
tim pool
Undergoing a critical therapy session to correct your bad behaviors because you dared call the police on someone.
luke rudkowski
And taking now three rushed experimental jabs as now Bill Gates, who also praised China for their response to COVID, just came out recently, also today, and now is saying that people need three shots of the coronavirus vaccine today.
jack murphy
I can't help but think of Utopia.
Where the virus wasn't the real goal.
It was getting everybody the vaccine to mark them for something else.
tim pool
Well, are you talking about the original Utopia or the new one?
jack murphy
I'm talking about the original.
I don't waste my time with that bullcrap.
tim pool
The new one, they cancelled it because it was freaking people out.
Because the vaccine was sterilizing people.
That's that was the spoiler.
jack murphy
I guess spoiler.
That's the original one as well.
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
So in the, yeah, in the new, in the new show, they canceled it, I guess, because they were like, a lot of people were thinking that, you know, there's just some parallels here.
Listen, I think, you know, we have a right to be free of cruel and unusual punishment.
You commit a crime, you pay a fine, you go to jail, right?
What this story is of this woman, this Karen, and the therapy session, this is... They mentioned in the story that they've already been doing it with other people.
It's been happening.
They're giving you an ultimatum.
Cruel and unusual punishment or jail?
Well, because jail has become this like... Because it's awful.
People are like, give me the re-education treatment, because I'll just do the diversity training, right?
jack murphy
Bro, people went to Vietnam instead of go to jail.
This is an offer that has been made by judges for all eternity.
You can go do this terrible thing, but in this case it was go serve your country in Vietnam.
It's a little bit different.
They always give people alternatives to go to jail.
I think generally speaking, we really don't want people to go to jail.
tim pool
Sure, generally speaking.
jack murphy
But this is the worst thing ever.
This is terrible.
Go have your brain washed.
It's horrible.
luke rudkowski
Critical therapy center?
I'm looking on Twitter right now, and people are wanting blood for Amy Cooper.
They're like, I'm pissed, this is not enough, this is white How dare she?
The New York Times, the mainstream media, CNN are all writing articles about this saying, this is not right.
She should face punishment.
And I'm like, if I remember this correctly, this was all a big misunderstanding.
You should never call the cops, especially on a birdwatcher.
But I do believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that the situation occurred because the birdwatcher said, I'm going to do something you don't like.
She freaked out and tried giving the dog something.
She didn't know what was going on.
jack murphy
Hold on a second.
If you guys, some of my followers, remember when Corona hit, I took my kids, our weights, we went out in the front yard.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
jack murphy
We lifted weights in my front yard and my neighbor called the police on me.
Not just once, not just twice, but three times.
Okay.
And now you're telling me that calling the police on somebody is a crime.
If the, if the person is not committing a crime, should my neighbor, my neighbor needs to go to critical therapy rehabilitation now?
tim pool
Jack, I think you're right.
She needs to learn why she was being racist.
ian crossland
She was black and I'm white, so I'm not sure that that's... Was this guy, this birdwatcher, a black... I don't even like... So he was a different race.
We didn't even mention this part.
luke rudkowski
Well, he made a comic book about this.
ian crossland
And it's not a different race.
The human race is one race.
tim pool
He tried feeding her dog.
He tried coaxing her dog away from her.
She freaked out.
ian crossland
Oh, so he's trying to get back at her for not having her on his leash.
tim pool
Well, he said he carried treats on purpose in the event he found someone doing this.
So he was a Karen, too.
But apparently he refused to participate in the trials because he said the woman has already been through enough.
She doesn't need punishment.
Yeah, that's respectable.
Yeah, it was a dumb park argument that became some stupid culture war moment.
But I don't care about that.
I don't care about the guy.
I don't care about the dog.
I care about the fact that a judge said, go to a re-education center to learn about equity.
ian crossland
Because of the race issue.
If he was a white dude, they wouldn't have said that.
tim pool
It wouldn't have been on the table.
No, I think they still would have.
It would become a gender issue.
jack murphy
If he was a white woman, maybe they wouldn't have.
It's worse than that.
Critical race theory is now the baseline.
So anything can be addressed by critical race theory.
Any conflict that you have, any perception you have of other people, something bad that you did, no matter what, if it's gender, race, whatever, abled, bodied, who knows what related.
Critical Race here has captured all of our institutions.
You can see it even in like biology, even in like physics, even James Lindsay likes to point out, even in math.
tim pool
Two plus two is five.
jack murphy
So of course it's in therapy as well.
ian crossland
It's sad because if they remade Monopoly, it would be like a chance card you could get.
Get out of jail free card, but it would be like... We should, uh... Play the race card.
tim pool
We should remake Monopoly.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Not the same way, but like... Like a racial justice Monopoly?
tim pool
No, no, just like an updated kind of, you know, similar game.
You know.
ian crossland
Sure, the bank never runs out of money.
tim pool
Well, they actually say that in the rules.
You know Monopoly was made to be anti-capitalist?
luke rudkowski
I didn't know that.
ian crossland
Why?
tim pool
The original Monopoly was created by this woman and she wanted to create a game where people would be really annoyed by what was happening.
Where the rich get richer and then take everything from you.
ian crossland
That's how it works.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
That's happened to me before.
tim pool
Milton Bradley?
I don't know.
I don't think they bought it.
I think they stole it from her.
Like they just made their own version.
And it's based on Atlantic City.
So the game was literally supposed to disparage capitalism.
I tell ya.
This is why nobody wants to play Monopoly.
Because it always breaks down to someone having power and just oppressing the other players, and they're like, okay, you win.
ian crossland
You gotta get the orange properties.
There's something about rolling into that, like, 17, 18, 19.
tim pool
The red properties.
ian crossland
I don't know, man.
I think the odds are you're gonna get, like, a 14 through 16, or a 16 through 19 on the dice.
tim pool
Monopoly is solved, so it's a solved game, meaning you can win so long as you do these things every time.
And it's been a long time since I've been through the theory of monopoly, but it's buy all the red properties and never buy hotels, but buy as many houses as possible.
ian crossland
If you want three houses on each property, that's when it scales up.
tim pool
But then no one can buy houses, and if they can't buy houses, they can't buy hotels.
ian crossland
Oh, good point.
tim pool
And then the red properties are statistically the most likely to get landed on because of the probabilities of the dice roll.
ian crossland
I always liked orange because the houses were only $100 each, whereas the red is where it scales up to $150.
tim pool
Anyway, not to get...
This is a nice tangent.
ian crossland
Game theory.
Hey, a couple things I wanted to mention.
We mentioned the coronavirus.
This is a little off topic, but I watched this Project Veritas Fauci interview with Mark Zuckerberg.
Did you guys get to watch the video?
tim pool
Some of it.
ian crossland
Dude, Fauci's...
I don't know if he's just too old or what, but this is an exact quote from Fauci.
Zuck was asking him about the vaccine and if it affects the DNA, and he was like, no.
Fauci's response was, DNA is inherent in your own nucleus cell.
He said that.
That phrase, DNA is inherent in your own nucleus cell.
This is Dr. Fauci, the preeminent virologist.
It doesn't make any sense.
In your own cell nucleus, I think that's what he meant to say?
tim pool
I don't think that matters.
My bigger concern here is wetlands.
ian crossland
He's losing it, dude, and he's supposed to be like the guy talking about telling us what to do with the stuff.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
But the bigger issue with all of that stuff playing back into what we've been talking about is our economy is being destroyed.
Who benefits?
China.
Our people are undergoing race therapy trainings, demasculization, and being told the country's bad.
Who benefits?
China.
ian crossland
Did you ever study the Boxer Rebellion?
A little bit.
tim pool
I wouldn't say study, but I've read about it.
ian crossland
At the end of the 1800s, basically, the Chinese rose up and tried to push the British out of the country in this Boxer Rebellion.
tim pool
In Hong Kong, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
So the British had basically colonized eastern China and created an opium trade and were just massively, this is the East India Trading Company, I believe, massive profiting.
They were selling drugs to opiates to the Chinese and just destroying the China through the opium trade.
And then they started Hong Kong.
I believe it was Hong Kong.
And we're basically poised to take control of China like they did India.
They were going to make it a British colony.
So the British or the Chinese eventually were like the emperors, I think, at the time was like, no, no, hell no.
So they rose up and they attacked and just pushed the British all the way back to the coast, murdered all these British people, killed them, pushed them back to the island and got rid of it.
And I think it seems like they're using that as justification to do that to us today.
jack murphy
Not just justification, but an actual roadmap.
Opiates, dude.
Opiates.
They flooded our country.
I've talked with Jack Pasovic about this a number of times.
They think in timescales that we can't comprehend.
And they remember that from the 1800s.
Like, for real.
And they had endured a century of shame.
And now they want revenge for that.
ian crossland
Opiates are nasty.
I've taken them before, man.
They are hardcore.
Yeah, and I was just my friend was like a recovering heroin addict and had methadone and I was like, yeah, I'll try it You know, I want to know I want to understand and man it it felt so good.
jack murphy
I I Not advocating.
ian crossland
No, no.
I would never.
I mean, it was devastatingly addictive.
The next day I asked him if I could have more and he said no.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And he probably saved me from an opiate addiction.
It was so, felt physically so good.
luke rudkowski
This is the thing we need to understand, especially with the opioids.
This is a thing that exploited our system to the best of its abilities.
We're talking about individuals who were in car crashes, had some pain.
Doctors were bribed and they gave out this specific medicine that was akin to heroin.
People got addicted to it.
And what happened?
They had to go somewhere else when the doctors cut them off.
And that's when they went into fentanyl.
That's when they went into heroin.
And I've even spent time in Mexico.
tim pool
This led them to the, you know, it was, it was, it was this escalation.
Like, like you said, what was it?
The opiates, you know, fentanyl, Percocet, all this stuff, ultimately leading to a more dramatic result that was detrimental to their lives.
Voting for Donald Trump.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, our medical system was literally... This is the bigger point here.
Our medical system was exploited by whether you call it the pharma-industrial complex or if you believe there was a larger conspiracy but people were told by their doctors by the people who they were told to trust Take this pain pill.
It's okay.
They were over prescribed it.
Then they became addicted.
Then they became hooked.
And I had to go down to Mexico.
I did this full video specifically highlighting a whole treatment center about people recovering from opioids in Mexico because they couldn't get the treatment in the United States to get off the hardcore drugs that they were put on by medical doctors in the United States.
So seeing Americans who just were average Americans that suffered car crashes to have to go through this huge pain really makes you wonder, institutionally, what's happening.
And as you mentioned, Jack, every layer of our institutions screw you over and benefit off of your suffering.
And anything that goes against the institutions, anything that goes against the establishment gets cut now on social media.
It gets attacked by mainstream media, and they want to toe the line, keep the line, making you suffer.
jack murphy
Forget the institutions, build networks.
tim pool
Did you know that China underground labs are developing new potent opiates to send to the United States?
I mean, it only took me two seconds to Google search this.
It's from 2017.
Underground labs in China are devising potent new opiates faster than authorities can respond.
And they talk about people in the United States who are catching this, finding this stuff, taking it, getting sick, ODing, dying, and it's being manufactured, of course.
In China.
ian crossland
This is like legit a roadmap.
luke rudkowski
This is the opium wars.
tim pool
This is warfare.
They are poisoning us.
And it is through American gluttony that it's happening.
And so I've said this before.
I think Joe Biden and the Democratic establishment, and of course the Republicans, are just extracting as much as they can before the ship sinks.
They're the people in the Titanic running around grabbing as much of the silverware as they can before they jump onto a life raft.
ian crossland
Joe Biden you think is too?
tim pool
Of course he is!
He just defended the concentration camps!
Yes, Tony Bobulinski, a family confidant for the Biden, said he was crooked and corrupted by China.
They apparently got a $5 million interest-free loan to Hunter Biden after Joe flew his son on government property for a private deal.
Why was the vice president using government property to fly his son out for a private deal for his family?
Crooked.
And now he's defending internment camps?
Come on, man.
Two plus two equals four.
luke rudkowski
I mean, imagine being a Uyghur.
Imagine being in Taiwan right now.
You'd be terrified of what's going on right now.
tim pool
They are there protesting in support of Donald Trump.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Sorry, Ian.
ian crossland
Go ahead.
Oh, you said interest-free loan.
Does that mean they never have to pay it back?
tim pool
Uh, forgivable.
Yeah, interest-free, forgivable loan.
That was what was reported.
unidentified
So, a bribe.
tim pool
Well, you know, call it what you want.
ian crossland
It's a bribe.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
He was, his son was bribed by the Chinese.
tim pool
His son?
His son?
ian crossland
Yeah, apparently his family.
tim pool
Who brought his son there?
lydia smith
Who flew him on Air Force Two?
ian crossland
He was complicit in allowing his son to get bribed.
That's crazy.
tim pool
No, let's be real.
We know who the big guy is.
We know who the big guy was in those emails.
And don't take it from me.
Take it from family confidant, Tony Bobulinski, who said, that's Joe Biden.
He was the one benefiting from this.
Why is there an active investigation of Hunter and, and was it Jimmy, Jim, Jim Biden, his brother?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Why is it that Politico reported around the time that Joe Biden was put in charge of overseeing military operations in Iraq, They've got a bunch of contracts to build up, to build
there.
Making millions of dollars.
It's great, isn't it?
That's called Biden Inc.
According to Politico.
But nowadays it's just conspiracy theory, I guess.
Then Joe Biden goes into town hall and says, look, I'm not going to criticize
literal concentration camps for religious minorities.
That's Joe Biden.
ian crossland
It's not conspiracy theory, it's evidence-based theory.
tim pool
Yeah.
jack murphy
He's like, I have to keep up appearances, I gotta reflect the norms of my country, so I'm gonna say it to him, but we both know I'm cool with it.
tim pool
This is why I thought it was so dumb Tucker did the whole Joe and Jill Biden love thing being a PR stunt or something.
lydia smith
That's not the focus.
tim pool
you see that. Tucker did a segment talking about it. Yes.
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
And he was talking about how the mainstream media was suckling up to him saying that they're going to buy him doughnuts
and share cookies and have coffee. Joe Biden walked over and
gave his coffee to one of the reporters and the reporter's like,
oh my gosh, I'm not wearing a mask. I'm gonna get in trouble.
unidentified
And she's like, okay, I'll take your coffee.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we're gonna have donuts later.
And again, I think Tucker brought up an interesting point, because when you look at the sycophantic love affair that the mainstream media has with Joe Biden, when you compare it to what they did with Trump, it's a complete 180.
We also had ABC News and Newsweek literally, unironically, put out two full-page articles about Yes.
Joe Biden playing Mario Kart with his family.
That's it.
That was the whole article.
tim pool
Are we allowed to point out that people are dying of COVID while Joe Biden plays video games?
luke rudkowski
That's what the mainstream media did.
They were like, Donald Trump's playing golf as hundreds of thousands of people are dying from COVID-19.
Meanwhile, they're like, Look how great and cute Biden is playing video games.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
It's one thing to criticize the media for being biased, but can we criticize them for funding terror?
In this story from Deseret, Utah activist in Capitol riot sold his video to CNN and NBC for $35,000 each.
Wow.
That's a lot of money.
This guy is charged with storming the Capitol, but he's a leftist.
So CNN gave him 35 grand, providing material support to a guy who runs a group or who started a group called Insurgents USA, and was a frequent activist attending BLM and Antifa protests, and then later denied being involved at all.
Sorry, bro.
But what I find funny is, you can be a moderately liberal individual, you go as a journalist, you go and interview, say, the Proud Boys, and then the media says, that proves you're far right!
You can actually start a leftist insurgent organization, go to BLM rallies, go to Antifa rallies, and then as soon as they report on the negative things you did, you say, oh, actually I'm not involved, they go, oh, okay, we'll take your word for it.
There you go.
But more to the point.
CNN claimed over and over and over again what happened there was a terror attack in the Capitol.
Yet they were the ones immediately after it happened who provided $35,000 to one of these guys.
luke rudkowski
Who was cheering it on during one of the most scariest moments.
As a woman got shot in the whole melee that he was a part of creating.
tim pool
And he was screaming like, she's dead, she's dead.
luke rudkowski
And $35,000.
I mean, I covered a lot of crazy protest footage and I have some of the most wildest footage.
I had news organizations come to me, try to offer my stuff.
$35,000 is an absurd number in my opinion.
tim pool
Do you know what he sold?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the shooting video.
tim pool
Yeah, it was the video of the woman who lost her life.
So he had the exclusive footage and he got $70,000 for it.
There's got to be some kind of criminal statute for this, right?
This was evidence obtained in the commission of a crime.
This was an individual who was breaking the law, and filming himself breaking the law, and CNN rushed out full speed, not only to put the guy on air, they put him on air and claimed he was an activist.
They bought the footage from him.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think usually if criminals are profitable, you just kind of waive the crime.
jack murphy
How much did they pay Mohamed Atta for his in-flight footage on 9-11?
I'm joking, but they would have done that, probably.
They would have paid for that, don't you think?
tim pool
I don't think so.
I think the problem is that politics flows one direction.
That even though this guy is being charged with several crimes, and he recently got new charges added, the news outlets don't care about you or me or anyone who's listening to this show.
They don't care.
They know who their audience is, and they're feeding the beast.
ian crossland
It's power, man.
Operation Paperclip.
They took a bunch of Nazi scientists that were doing what we would have considered illegal, you know, funding the enemy.
considered illegal. And then we just waived their crimes and then made them American citizens and
paid them a bunch of money because we liked what they were doing. And we all know what that
tim pool
resulted in. You know, that mad scientist guy puts his brain in the computer and then takes over
SHIELD and then HYDRA, you know, is... Fallout, New Vegas.
No, that's the Winter Soldier.
jack murphy
It makes me want to just think for a second. Trump, he said the quiet part out loud when he
talked about us doing bad things right Biden just admits that there is no universal liberalism.
There is no universal human rights.
There's only moral relativism.
tim pool
There's only profit, power, and the agenda of those who have it.
jack murphy
Are we just finally acknowledging that maybe this whole American story that we built up, this whole myth about us being the good guys and doing the right thing all the time, it's just a bunch of crap?
tim pool
But we've always known that.
Like, this is the country where we learn history as written by the victors.
This is the country where you are allowed to burn the American flag, for better or for worse.
Even back in the day when it was way more controversial and people would try to cancel you over it, you could still do it.
You can't do that in China, in any capacity.
They'll just lock you in your home, weld your doors shut, and then you die.
So, look, there's that famous sketch where the two guys, was it Hamish and Andy I think, I'm not sure, and they're dressed like Nazis and they're like, They're symbol is the skull and crossbones, and the guy's like, are we the baddies?
We have a skull and crossbones.
They were.
America does bad things, but if you believe in the world of superheroes who are perfect and do no wrong, well then, I got a comic book to sell ya.
Because that's just not the real world.
But good guys have flaws.
The United States has serious flaws.
But I think it's true that we are and have been the good guys.
And there have been a lot of really messed up things America has done.
And America has been exploited by a lot of special interests and evil people.
But for the most part, we have been... This is one of the best countries to have ever existed, if not the best, in terms of civil rights for all people.
The rights... I'll tell you something real crazy, man.
I have to be careful when I go to certain countries.
People in this country, they think it's funny when I mention that I'm mixed race, but they don't understand that that's very dangerous in a lot of countries in the world.
The views held about being mixed are extremely ethnocentric, and it's like, that's a bad thing.
It's a bad thing.
I went to Korea, for instance, and I had a lot of people say, oh man, wow, yeah, no, you shouldn't, like, that's, that's, like, not okay, you know what I mean?
This country is amazing.
We've not always been perfect, but we have moved towards bettering everything as we've gone, you know, moved forward.
And even today it's it's it's this country has done so well to protect rights that we actually have a problem of people exploiting our desire to do good.
Our goodwill is being exploited by critical race theorists who are trying to destroy this country and who hate it.
ian crossland
It seems like the age of decadence like we're all this infighting like it makes me think of the Romans at the end of the Roman Empire.
And has there ever been an empire that wasn't ultimately invaded by militant conquerors and then transfixed, you know, changed?
Has there ever been one?
Has there ever been an empire that peacefully became a new, a new country?
tim pool
250 years?
Well, yeah.
Well, I don't know about peacefully, but collapse happens.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's either collapse and violent takeover.
That's like the history of all countries and empires.
jack murphy
That's just the history of power, dude.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
So is that what we're destined for?
Is a Chinese military takeover of this country?
tim pool
Well, yes, but not military.
Fifth generational warfare.
ian crossland
I'm talking about military takeover.
tim pool
It doesn't need to be military.
luke rudkowski
It doesn't have to be violent.
It doesn't have to be bullets.
It doesn't have to be bombs.
It's information.
It's data.
ian crossland
Data's the new oil.
And then people get seized out of their house in the middle of the night by Chinese Communist Party.
luke rudkowski
No, censored.
Censored.
Taken offline.
Making sure you can't use banks online.
That's one way that they could do it.
jack murphy
Sending misdemeanor offenders for calling the cops by accident on the wrong guy to re-education camps is a sign of victory.
Now, I'm glad we sort of took the bait here on my sort of Socratic asking this question about is America everything we remember it to be.
I think what we're really observing here is that it is one thing to be inside and to be an American in America is another thing to be on the outside and not be an American vis-a-vis American power in the world, right?
And the way that we conduct ourselves overseas and the way that we try to push our universal liberalism, moral rights, or human rights on everybody else over their objections, right?
At the same time as preserving all of our stuff at home and saying, this can't be corrupted in any way.
It presents a hypocrisy that people resent us around the world.
There's no question about that.
Do I want to live anywhere else where I'm actually not the king?
No.
The only place I want to live anywhere else other than here is someplace where I'm actually the sovereign.
That's my next project.
luke rudkowski
Well, the thing that makes America special is the First and Second Amendment, something that is also in grave danger from being taken away from us in one way or another.
Digitally online, the information and communication highways are taken over by special interests and they're limiting people's speech.
The Second Amendment also is in grave danger as well.
There's already a lot of limitations, but let's be honest here.
Comparatively around the world, not a lot of people have the First and Second Amendment.
Now, as you said, Jack, the military-industrial complex has hijacked American foreign policy and the amount of human suffering it has caused all around the world.
Oh boy, does there need to be a realization to this and an understanding of this because the consequences are far greater than what a lot of naive people in the United States could even understand.
So you have to understand.
You have to take these two.
Nothing's perfect.
We only could strive to be better by understanding it and having an honest discussion about it, which we're trying to do here.
ian crossland
We have to preserve.
I'm sorry to interrupt your thoughts.
I hadn't even spoken yet.
jack murphy
I mean, it's like you got a neighbor next door who's like at home.
Everything's beautiful in their house and all the kids are successful and they got all the money in the world and it's totally free and loving and kind inside their house.
And then they're the biggest jerks you ever met in your neighborhood and they're killing everybody who doesn't think the way that they do.
That is a dichotomy that is really hard to square.
That is a contradiction.
Our actions collectively as a nation represented on the world stage don't necessarily jive up with our theories and our ideas of who we are at home.
ian crossland
This is why I think we got to vehemently protect the Constitution because there could come a day when the U.S.
government is so hands-off and disregarded of the Constitution that they allow extradition of American citizens to China for crap-talking the Chinese government.
jack murphy
What they've already done is allow the Constitution to be subordinated to terms of service.
Corporate terms of service now supersede the Constitution.
ian crossland
Yeah!
tim pool
I got a question, though.
In Chicago, for the longest time growing up, you couldn't have guns.
Basically, period.
You just couldn't have them.
And then there was some big Supreme Court ruling, and then a bunch of these, you know, Chicago Democrats were freaking out because the Supreme Court was like, yo, you can't ban people from having guns.
So all of a sudden, businesses started putting signs all over their door, you know, stickers on their doors.
No weapons allowed in this business.
No weapons allowed in this business.
So now you can have a weapon, but if you're walking around with it, You're not gonna be able to go into any buildings.
Not legally, I guess, they could kick you out.
I'm curious about, like, private roads.
Could someone who owns a toll road, private road, say, you can't bring weapons on this road, we'll kick you off, we'll ban you from using it?
Just real quick, the reason I bring this up is, if we're moving in a direction where, you know, our speech is now subjected to terms of service, and we don't use the public space anymore, Will there eventually be a time when other elements that are protected by the Constitution go private and then we no longer have those rights?
Courts, policing, etc.?
jack murphy
Well, it's happening right now with the way that we talk to each other.
Free speech in the same way.
The terms of service are superseding the Constitution.
They're abridging your rights, First Amendment rights.
And the government seems very happy to allow that to happen.
As a matter of fact, don't you think that the folks on the left in power in the United States government, they look to this censorship that is taking place, these new terms of service that supersede the Constitution.
They're actually getting the work done that they wish.
That they could accomplish through the government.
They are silencing their political opposition.
They silenced the most powerful man in the world, the President of the United States.
They banned him while he was in office.
Which is just what the left wish could happen.
So the people who are in power, who are guardians and defenders, who have taken oaths to defend the Constitution, gleefully allow these corporations to run amok and establish terms of service which supersede the Constitution.
ian crossland
Let's talk about what happens when... Let me say this real quick.
This is like a visceral misnomer of human rights.
To allow a corporation To violate your rights because you don't want to violate their rights is like saying you're going to allow the Chinese government to take you and fly you to China to put you in a Chinese prison because you're not going to violate their right to do that.
We have a government to protect our rights.
That's why it's in place.
My rights.
Your rights.
Our rights.
Not corporate rights.
Those aren't even people.
jack murphy
That's not what the Supreme Court said.
tim pool
So here's what happens when you end up with government versus out of control tech.
From CNBC, Facebook will ban Australian users from sharing or viewing news.
Or viewing news.
I want to show you this tweet we got from Ian Miles Chong.
He says, Rip Quillette.
For those that aren't familiar, Quillette is a magazine based in Australia, and they're fairly anti-woke.
They oppose critical race theory, for the most part.
But they do offer up just kind of a free thinking space for people to debate ideas.
Well, them, like many other news publications, have had all of their pages essentially stripped.
Why?
What's going on right now with news around the world, there's a big argument over whether or not Google and Facebook have destroyed news.
So, Google for instance.
If I write a news article, and then there's a bunch of text, you know, Jack Murphy, shut up at Tim Pool's house, did a backflip, everyone cheered.
unidentified
Double.
tim pool
I saw that.
It was a double backflip, right.
So I'm writing this article because I want you to come to my website, and I want you to read this, and in turn, get exposed to advertisements for which I make money.
Google scrapes all of that text and just publishes it on Google.
So some people just read Google News, don't go to the site, the site doesn't get the money, but still did the work.
It's resulted in news organizations going after Google, smearing them, smearing YouTube, and trying to essentially destroy Google's business model because, well, it's taking from them.
I can understand the problem of what Google is doing, stripping, you know, scraping the text and then republishing it essentially.
But in this, a law was passed basically saying, you can't do this.
You've got to share the revenue.
Facebook said, nah, we ain't going to do that.
We're just going to ban all news from Facebook.
Do something about it.
They are too powerful.
Australian news is gone from Facebook.
That's crazy.
That is one of the biggest, this is one of the biggest instances of censorship we have ever seen.
Now, part of me wants us to throw it back to good old Thomas Jefferson.
A man who reads nothing is more educated than a man who reads the newspaper.
And, I don't know, it's an interesting experiment.
We'll see what happens.
But regardless, people have a right to share news if they want to.
It is insane to me that Facebook can say, you're accusing us of costing these news organizations money and stealing from them.
Okay, well then, no one gets to use the platform.
So what?
That's it?
They take over the public town square, they take over the flow of news, and then when you dare say, we will not allow you to do this without, you know, pitching back in, they say, okay, then we will snap our fingers and destroy the system.
I'll tell you what this is.
It's very simple.
They slowly gave people opiates until they developed an addiction.
And these people then abandoned the rest of their lives, saying, okay, this makes me feel good.
Now that Facebook has total control over the system and the network, they say, now we can take it away.
What are you going to do about it?
People used to get their news in other ways.
Facebook made it easier.
Now that Facebook has a monopoly, they can simply say, we'll take it from you and cause panic.
jack murphy
Exactly right.
I'd like to dig a little bit deeper into that mechanism, though.
It's not just simply that they made it easier.
It's what Facebook is.
They took all the advertisers, which used to support the local news, and they moved those advertisers to Facebook.
So now all the advertisers are hooked on Facebook.
And now the local news don't get any advertising dollars unless they run it through Facebook.
So there's now literally no market for these local newspapers to find advertisers sufficient enough to support them.
And we have laws against that.
Using your war chest and negative prices in order to go out and capture markets.
using your market power to kill entire industries and such like that.
So that was the vector by which this all happened.
And then you add to it the fact that social media is designed to literally
hijack your brain.
It's designed to literally change the the the the the chemicals
and the reactions, your physiology in your brain.
And as you said, literally make you addicted to pull it.
You know that feeling.
I know you all know it when you pull down.
ian crossland
Oh, my God.
jack murphy
And there's just that moment where it spins for a second.
unidentified
And you just don't know what's going to come.
ian crossland
20 plus new notifications.
jack murphy
What's that plus?
And I'll just admit for somebody in my line of work where I make all my money online, it's exclusively online.
Every time I pull that thing down, man, could be money.
tim pool
So listen, maybe it's a good thing.
Maybe it's a good thing that people are now, it's kind of like going cold turkey.
They wake up one day, they look at their Facebook feed and they're refreshing and there's no news anymore.
And they start getting the shakes and they're like, what am I going to do?
And now they're getting pulled out of the matrix hard.
The algorithms were not healthy for people.
So maybe in the end, it still is a good thing.
ian crossland
I don't think so.
Because the way you were laying it out makes a lot of sense.
That it's like a public highway.
It's become the public highway of the mind.
And now they're seizing your access to it.
It makes no sense.
We're not going to let green cars on this highway.
We don't like the way it looks.
tim pool
Shut the whole highway down.
We don't like that people are using the highway that way.
jack murphy
No, it's a little bit different than that.
It's like you can still use the highway, but when you pull off the rest stop, you can't get Sbarro anymore.
You can just have no pizza.
tim pool
Well, no, they banned all news.
jack murphy
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Gone.
jack murphy
But you can.
unidentified
But but the user could still be there.
jack murphy
I almost said the customer.
ian crossland
I think that's interchangeable.
tim pool
No, no, no.
jack murphy
The user isn't the customer.
The user is the customer.
tim pool
The data, the people buying the data.
jack murphy
They're the product.
They're the product.
Those people are still on the highway.
It's just they when they go to that rest stop, that's exclusively monopoly controlled by that highway.
And all there is is usually a Starbucks, a Sbarro, and a Burger Chef, whatever that is anymore.
Like, they're all gone now.
So they pull off at the rest stop, there's nothing there, so now you're just hungry.
ian crossland
Yeah, you have to use Facebook food only.
tim pool
And I guess a way to put it is, we used to just stay on the highway and get our food from there, and many people eventually forgot the restaurants they used to go to.
And now, one day, Facebook says, oh, y'all want to cut of so so they're that these companies are using
dot dot the highway that we contribute to
and it's caused damage to the economy and so when we come in and say yeah we've got a rectified
as it's trying things a much take all your food away
jack murphy
and what will you do about it i imagine this is costing face book
this move that they've decided to tell you to be an all-new So I'm guessing that this is a gambit that they hope doesn't become permanent, right?
This is a way of them being like, your law is dumb.
Watch how dumb it is.
tim pool
I don't think Facebook cares.
Facebook has already said they want to get rid of politics.
They want to derank political content.
So they're like, good.
I think they make so much money they can afford to tell an entire government, an entire nation, F you.
That's amazing, right?
You see what happens when these companies become too powerful?
Look, there is a pro and a con, right?
Government is not perfect.
Government does a lot of really, really bad things.
So you need private companies and competition to help make things work, and then you need governments to kind of referee.
We can see the worst, you know, we can see really, really awful things come from governments.
We've literally just been ragging on China's government for a long time.
Australia's moves are not perfect.
The problem is, corporate power has also went unchecked.
What's the difference?
ian crossland
Government means to control the mind.
Govern meaning control.
Mind meaning, meant meaning mind.
And that's basically, what is the mind control of the day?
Sometimes we give our power to an institution that we've created through paperwork, like the U.S.
government.
Sometimes it's the dollar that people are obsessed with.
Sometimes it becomes social networks that are guiding what you can see and can't see.
And that is the government of the day, are these social networks.
And money.
It just depends on how zealous you are, I guess.
But these things are controlling our daily thoughts.
They're allowing us access to what they want.
It's crazy that Mark has that much control.
We didn't elect him.
It's not a U.S.
jack murphy
Yes, we did.
We all elected Mark in charge by using the GD product.
This is the part that I can't get away from, guys.
We all used the product.
We made it happen.
ian crossland
But we're born into a system where it's prevalent.
So it's the kids that are three and four using it because their friends at school use it aren't choosing it.
jack murphy
I remember when you couldn't get in but if you were in just a few different universities and I went to Georgetown and I was like waiting for them to add Georgetown to the list and I was like, yes!
And I was in.
I wanted that-ish bad!
ian crossland
Yeah, but it's become so prevalent now that people are inducted without... Our preferences led to this outcome.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, our personal choices, which again, there's a lot of unfair market conditions that happen, especially with government intervention and these big social tech companies.
But what Jack talks about, Ian, just like, you know, people vote for puppets, they're called politicians, People also vote with their dollars.
They vote with their likes.
They vote with their shares.
They vote with their attention.
And what you give attention to, you grow.
And we have a choice.
That's why I've been saying, my email list!
Email list!
James was talking about it yesterday.
That's why you guys have your own website now with your own subscription feed.
This is what we all need to do.
We're realizing it.
So this experiment is going to be very exciting to see how it plays out because With Facebook saying pretty much, you know, F you to the entire government of Australia.
This is going to have some interesting ramifications worldwide and people who are wanting to see the news... I mean already Facebook is, according to some estimates, in decline.
Already there's a lot of boomer people just complaining and nagging on there.
Already the algorithm is just filled with a lot of just hateful, wasteful stuff.
I barely use it anymore.
I got fact-checked on it today, but it's It's not something I engage in, but Ian, one thing that we're trying to make people understand is because we're on it, because we're participating in it, we're allowing it to be as prevalent.
jack murphy
We're all complicit.
luke rudkowski
And just like Myspace and just like all these other big tech kind of social media platforms that came and went, I do believe there will be a day where Facebook will come and will go soon.
ian crossland
I agree that we are complicit and empowering the system by using it, but you also can make that argument about the U.S.
government and taxes.
We're born into having a social security number.
We didn't ask for it, but the system was created by someone that chose to create it and start to use it.
Now, it's become so prevalent that we're not asked if we want to have a social security number or if we want to pay taxes.
tim pool
And you can't go anywhere.
ian crossland
And it's starting to happen with social networking.
These kids aren't asked, do you want to have this be a through line to your friends?
It's just that's the way society is built right now.
jack murphy
Are you kidding?
My kids don't give two craps about Facebook.
You're a special genius, man.
ian crossland
Unfortunately... Are they on Instagram?
jack murphy
They are.
tim pool
Then they're on Facebook.
jack murphy
Indeed.
tim pool
Yep.
jack murphy
Although they both have limited screen time on Facebook, and my son only has a business account on Instagram, rather.
ian crossland
And this is you, Jack.
You're like an evolved dude, and your kids are on Instagram.
Like, it's a big... It's in us.
tim pool
It's not just choice.
Sometimes you'll be like, hey, you need to use this messaging software for work.
How do I log in?
Will you log in through Facebook or Google?
Oh, you got to use this financial service.
Okay, I'm using this financial service.
How do I log in?
Through Facebook or Google?
jack murphy
Dude, anything that makes your life easier on the internet, you should just run away from.
unidentified
Turn around and run away.
100%.
jack murphy
Unless you're paying for it.
lydia smith
Exactly.
ian crossland
I was trying to put Google Analytics on my website last night.
jack murphy
I mean, they're good.
ian crossland
It was a bit of a headache.
I didn't get it finished.
But yeah, they are good.
jack murphy
Yes, someone's making stuff.
tim pool
Google owns the advertising machine.
And what a lot of these companies didn't realize, before Google became the behemoth,
they started planting seeds of where they wanted to be and what they wanted to control.
They started buying things out.
Then once advertising started shifting, Google found themselves in the perfect position.
Now that advertising is getting away from, you know, terrestrial radio television and becoming more digital, Google owns it.
Facebook owns a decent portion of it as well.
I think it's like 47% Google and like 43% Facebook and then, you know, pockets of other networks in between.
jack murphy
That's why there's actually a lot of options in order if you want to break them up.
There's a lot of options.
You break up the ad stuff from the search stuff.
You break up the indexing from the searching.
There's a number of ways to break them up.
luke rudkowski
You give people a bill of rights of privacy to make sure that their data doesn't get sold down the line to all these multinational corporations about every little aspect of your existence.
That would be a nice beginning here.
Hey, don't program when I take a crap.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You know the craziest thing to me about the algorithmic feats for ads is, I only ever get ads for things I already bought.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
No, for real.
I'll go to Amazon and I'll be like, I need a spatula for, you know, a pie scraper or something.
And then I get ads all over the place, pie scraper.
And I'm like, I bought it already, dude.
What are you doing?
It's the stupidest thing ever.
jack murphy
You may have a shorter time between let me investigate what I want to buy and purchase than most people, Tim, just throwing that out there.
But I want to go back to this digital digital.
You're laughing.
I'm looking around.
You know, I want I want to go back to what you're talking about, the digital bill of rights.
So John Robb, an amazing futurist, Special Forces guy, invented RSS, advised DOD and Joint Chiefs.
This guy knows what he's talking about and his focus is on a digital bill of rights because he understands that we need to own our data.
That's the first thing.
That's sovereignty.
Own your own data.
Our five-year-old kids in elementary school are selling unknowingly, giving away their data by participating in education systems.
I love this idea of a digital bill of rights.
unidentified
How do we get there?
luke rudkowski
Just like collective bargaining.
I think people need to understand that they have all the power.
Until social media companies abide by these certain rules, we're not going to be using them.
And I think it is possible, but the odds are definitely against us.
It's a David versus Goliath battle.
But just as you said, we should have power about what data is sold on us.
Just like what we decide to give to them should be decided by us and not a huge terms of services that's 20 pages long that you can't even read.
So again, impossible fight.
They would censor the crap out of it.
They would make sure it gets no traction.
But I still think it's worth fighting because you never know when David's gonna have that lucky shot and knock down Goliath.
tim pool
I think the bigger problem is that the left is fervent, riotous, angry, and demanding.
And those that are not aligned with the cult tend to be, I don't know, cowardly?
No.
I say tend to be because there's obviously people like us here, people who watch the show who speak up, people like James O'Keefe, people like Jack, who turned his canceling into an advantage.
But who's gonna get off Twitter?
Like, who's gonna be like, I quit!
I harumph!
You know, and then be like, I refuse until they fix these things.
luke rudkowski
Well, the thing is, the big tech companies are kind of also shooting themselves in the foot as well by blocking all the really exciting people.
All the edgy people, all the wild people, all of them are gone off of all the big social media platforms, whether you like them or not.
They were pretty exciting.
They got a lot of attention.
A lot of them are gone.
So a lot of new apps are coming in.
This is why they had to go as far as to ban Parler of all things.
I mean, that was an extreme.
That was a big move.
tim pool
It was growing too fast.
luke rudkowski
It was a real threat.
They told everyone, make your own social media company.
People did!
And then what did they do in response to that?
That was a major step.
So just like every fad, things come and go.
I truly do believe Twitter, Facebook, Google, I mean, they're trying to cement themselves as powers that be forever, but I think their time is limited because just like it came, as fast and as quickly as it did, it could go as well as fast as quickly.
tim pool
It's asymmetrical war, and I think it's obvious that, you know, Everybody knows a good guy's lost, you know?
You look at censorship getting worse, it's not getting better.
You look at Joe Biden placating China, it's getting worse, it's not getting better.
You look at the demonization and the vile, just disgusting things being said about Rush Limbaugh, it's just getting worse, it's not getting better.
Conservatives didn't do that to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
I'm not trying to compare the two, like they're the same thing, but conservatives do not do this.
Now, there's an exception that some people along with the right do say awful things, I've seen it.
And I called them out.
But as Matt Walsh said, it's the exception, not the rule.
On the left, it's the rule, not the exception.
It's only getting worse.
Antifa's still riding up in Portland, no one's stopping them.
Just getting worse.
So, I mean, forgive me if I'm not overly optimistic.
There are some things I am optimistic about.
Michael Malice believes that we're, you know, these conversations and things like this show, that we're on a path towards actual victory.
And maybe it's fair to say that getting worse means the night is always darkest before the dawn, and eventually they're going to implode under the weight of their own insanity and hypocrisy, and then regular people will finally say, I've had enough.
I wonder when that moment will be, though, when people go to their windows, fling open the shades and say, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
jack murphy
It takes a crisis.
It takes trauma.
It takes a serious personal traumatic experience in order to break people free of ego-invested mental models and narratives that they've adopted, right?
Your mind is the battle space right now.
Your mind is the battlefield.
If you don't actively Occupy your mind, defend it, and fill it with the ideas of your choice.
It will be filled by other hostile actors.
We're all connected.
We all have permeable barriers that might as well not even exist.
Anybody can inject any old idea into your brain that they want, and they're taking control of your behavior through mind control.
So it takes personal trauma to cause people To even reflect on whether or not their choice of mindset choice was healthy for them.
And then to go through an experience where their ego detached from this mindset.
That is a real phenomenon that must take place.
luke rudkowski
That's why I really do believe that there is a bigger agenda, whether it's the algorithm or the newsfeed, to keep you in this negative thought loop, to keep you afraid, to keep you hating each other, to keep pushing this kind of race-baiting divide and conquer agenda.
And it's not just about race.
It's about your sex, your identity, your gender, your health.
All these other ideas that they could find, that they could make you fight each other or hate each other over, they're exploiting to the fullest extent.
And as you mentioned, Jack, your mind is like a muscle.
And you get to choose whether you're going to be optimistic and positive or pessimistic and negative.
And those choices are absolutely crucial.
And when your perspective of the world is controlled by a few tech oligarchs, by a few billionaires, it's in their best interest to make you believe that all hope is lost, everything's very negative, everything's very bad, and nothing ever good is going to come out of anything.
Resistance is futile, as they said in those big Hollywood movies.
tim pool
Your technology and culture will be assimilated.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
And in reality, they are they are a lot more fragile than we even know.
ian crossland
This supports my theory of humility and why self trauma is imposing trauma on yourself is so important by humiliating yourself in front of people is similar to working out.
If you don't create muscular trauma by working out, you will have trauma imposed on you from the outside because you will become so weak that you can't handle it.
And it's the same way with your mind.
tim pool
One way to expand on that is, if you don't... When you exercise your arm, right?
You're damaging the proteins in the muscle, and then your body replaces that, makes it stronger, makes it better.
Depending on what you're doing, you're getting muscle memory.
If you don't develop that, and you become feeble and out of shape, the trauma could destroy you outright.
So you need to harden yourself to prepare for when somebody might come and run full speed and punch you in the gut.
lydia smith
Jordan Peterson.
jack murphy
Is that what he says?
tim pool
He says take a punch to the gut like Houdini?
lydia smith
He totally says exactly that.
jack murphy
What we're talking about here, the secret sauce in all this is intentionality.
Are you going to be passive?
If you are going to be passive, you're dead.
You're dead.
You're sick, you're fat, you're chained to a desk, and you believe in an ideology that wants you to commit suicide, basically.
tim pool
Isn't this the crazy thing, though, about the Great Reset?
So one of the problems right now with this Great Reset stuff is that All the lockdown stuff we're seeing is making people horribly out of shape.
Their blood levels are getting worse.
They're sort of decaying in their own homes.
This is why I don't trust these people and I think they're lying.
If the idea was truly to not own anything and be happy, minimalism.
I actually am a fan of this.
I love the idea that we find happiness in just walking through the forest and maybe just rolling up your sleeves and doing a good day's hard work.
I'd love if that was, you know, the movement and the idea.
That behavior would make you stronger.
Instead, they're calling it the Great Reset, but then locking in your house so you can't get sunlight, you can't get proper exercise, and you wither away and become depressed, angry, and feeble.
jack murphy
I encourage you not to engage in behavior that aligns you to the spirit of the universe.
The spirit of the universe is to create, is to build, is to expand.
ian crossland
If you can align yourself with the energy of the universe, you will find yourself in alignment with I also find it devastating that people are getting censored off social media with varying opinions because it's this traumatic conversation when you have two opposing views and the visceral tension that's created.
That strengthens us against future conflict.
tim pool
It's like, it's like we're all in an MMA match, you know, it's like you're watching, you know, Conor McGregor and he's fighting Mike Tyson, and then Facebook throws a bola, a bolas, into the ring and tangles up Conor McGregor's legs and he falls down and Mike Tyson starts hitting him and you're like, he didn't really win, you know?
It was Facebook who threw the, was it called a bolas?
ian crossland
Yeah, the bola, those two.
tim pool
Bolo?
Bola?
I thought you were talking about Ebola.
It's like two weights on a rope and then it wraps around.
Ancient weapon, yeah.
I'm actually trying to make it as silly as possible, but no, it's legit.
It's like these two ideas have entered the ring and they're fighting for the championship, and then someone's literally throwing weights to cripple one side so the ideas don't win.
If your ideas need someone to basically cheat for you, they must not be good ideas.
Yeah, or prevent the fight entirely, which is probably even worse than, well... Yeah, it's like they take Conor McGregor out, and then before he can even go in the ring, they're raising Mike Tyson's, you know, he's won!
I know they don't fight in the same discipline, that's the point of the joke.
luke rudkowski
To continue the hippy-dippy stuff that Jack was just talking about...
Because you are talking about a lot of hippie stuff.
jack murphy
Intentionality.
luke rudkowski
I may see it a little bit differently, but I agree on the baseline of it.
Your intentions, I don't think that needs more of a conversation here, because your intentions absolutely matter.
And we're living in a society that's quick hit, dopamine hits, get whatever you can, get the likes.
And people don't really think about the long term intentions.
What do you intend to be?
What do you intend to do?
People don't set goals.
People don't set directives.
People are not even in a mindset to take a step back and realize, who do I want to be?
Who do I want to represent?
They're caught in this cycle that the special elites want you to be in and then you're stuck being someone that you never even intended to be to from the very beginning.
Things like meditation, things like gratitude, taking some time off even just to sit back.
Hey, I called you out on it first.
You know, taking some time to even just breathe deeply and not to think and let things come to you, no one does that.
And I think the more we could do that, the better off we would be.
I mean, I do it.
I do it every time before I go on the show.
And it's incredibly important for me and my mental health to be able to literally take 10 minutes, at least 10 minutes, do a guided meditation on focus, on peace of mind, on clarity.
And it really, really, really is key to your intentions and your goals.
tim pool
What helps me a lot, I think, with starting my business and getting my work was playing RPG video games when I was a kid.
ian crossland
Me too.
tim pool
Because you start.
You're level one.
unidentified
Hippie.
tim pool
This is more like nerd, I guess.
You have no items, you have no weapons, and then you're given the wooden sword, you know?
You have three hearts and a wooden sword.
Well, you've got to earn the next heart.
The game is difficult.
You can win some of these games.
What game was I playing?
I was playing...
Uh, Immortals.
What is that game?
Phoenix Rising.
It's a new game.
It's a PS4, PS5.
Awesome game!
And I'm, I was, I really enjoyed it because you can kind of just go where you want to go and whether you actually level your, your character up and get them the abilities they need.
If you have the skill, you can actually defeat some pretty serious bosses.
And it was like, I was fighting one boss and I'm like, why don't I just go level up?
This is like taking forever, but it was fun, right?
I grew up playing these video games.
And so my approach often when in, when in doing anything was always Am I, like, what's the level up?
What am I acquiring?
What do I have?
And what am I going to gain?
When you play these video games, you don't just start and then be like, okay, I want to be level 100 with the best items in the game.
It just doesn't happen.
You can't do it.
You start, you get the wooden sword and three hearts.
You want to get the level up sword, you got to get the five hearts first.
This is, and you know, NES, Uncharted, Zelda.
You have to go through it.
The other thing that helped me was skateboarding, because you can't cheat.
You can only prove to yourself you've accomplished it.
If you wanna lie to others, fine, but you don't get the dopamine, you don't get the accomplishment.
So in everything I've done, I've not thought about, I wanna be the CEO.
I've thought about, I'm at level one, what's level two?
What's the next step I gotta do?
What's the first step in the journey of a thousand miles?
What do I have to do?
It's pointless to look at someone else and be like, I want what they have.
Well, you don't know the path to get there, and even if you tried to replicate everything they did, you'd end up somewhere else.
ian crossland
Yeah, they are the path itself.
We are the path we have taken.
tim pool
It's not the end, it's the journey.
ian crossland
I think this conversation about intention is amazing because we were talking about good and evil and what that actually is.
And I think destruction isn't inherently evil, but if you intend evil through destruction or creation, then that's where evil comes from is your intentions.
And same with good.
luke rudkowski
Well, a lot of people don't intend to do bad, and a lot of people are caught up in systems and institutions that are flawed and corrupted, and they're a part of systems that they don't see a way out of, that they see it as a norm to screw over the other person, to hurt the other person.
It's their identity, and they can't lose sight of that, because if they do, they would have an ego death.
They can't even have that.
But again, as far as with the intention stuff, you got to ask yourself, who do you want to be?
What do you want to be represented by?
What do you want your legacy to be?
And these are questions no one asks themselves.
Once a year, I always take some time and I always write out my goals for a week, a month, a year, five year, 10 years down the line.
I want to make sure that I'm on a path in my life and I update it every year where I'm going in a positive direction, always upgrading, always doing something that's keeping me focused on my mission.
And having this kind of energy within me that is happy and content with me as a human being.
ian crossland
I think you're right that people don't intend to do evil.
luke rudkowski
No, they never do.
ian crossland
But I think maybe a lack of good intention is evil.
luke rudkowski
Lack of intention.
ian crossland
A lack of intention is when evil will seep in from these outside sources that are creating your intention for you.
tim pool
Is it evil to dance on the grave of people who die?
Is it evil to post?
ian crossland
It depends on why you're doing it.
tim pool
For internet points?
ian crossland
For followers?
tim pool
And so all of these people on social media who are mocking the pain and suffering of a family who just lost someone to cancer, is that not evil?
What good comes from doing that?
ian crossland
Doing things for views?
tim pool
For personal gain?
unidentified
For power?
ian crossland
That's a good argument, man.
tim pool
There is no good reason To dump on the grave of a man who just lost his life.
ian crossland
Well, if your family's starving and you need money and it's the quickest way to get the food, maybe.
luke rudkowski
But they're not starving.
tim pool
You want to know who I think had the best tweet about any of it?
It was Marianne Williamson, when it came to Rush Limbaugh.
She said, right now Rush Limbaugh is standing before God, listening intently.
Something like that.
And I said, that was an incredible, that was an amazing tweet.
It was critical.
But it was respectful, it was calm, it was reasoned, and, let's be real, she said he's in heaven.
It was very nice of her.
She doesn't have to like the guy, and I understand a lot of people really despise the guy, but what she said, I thought, was a nice way of saying, look, I'm critical of the guy, but, you know, here's a calm, rational approach.
jack murphy
Intentionality is everything.
It's a superpower right now.
And I don't mean your intentions in the sense of like, Oh, I intended to do that.
But intentionality, like mindfully choosing your actions, your behaviors, connecting to your values and being strong enough to embody them and to live them out in your life today.
The system that we live in with social media has hijacked your brain chemistry and encouraged you down negative behaviors, right?
Trolling people, flame wars, yada yada, we all know.
What if there was a way to get a similar dopamine hit off of your electronics and communications, but it resulted in positive energy?
It resulted in building things, creating things, instructing people and providing and protecting other people.
What if there was a network?
I'm sorry.
I got to do it.
unidentified
What if there's, what if there's, but the reason why I'm, what network?
jack murphy
No, but the reason why I'm bringing it up honestly, is because we just had this conversation inside the liminal order the other day.
We have transferred all this energy that guys were using on social media to do things that were relatively unproductive and possibly negative.
And now they're getting the reward from this engagement, but with people that are self-reinforcing this positive energy.
They're building things together.
They're exploring things together.
They're teaching each other things and they're doing the same actions that they were on social media, putting out messages, connecting with people.
But instead of getting a negative reinforced with dopamine, it's positively reinforced with dopamine now.
And it's a cycle.
It's a beautiful thing that we're seeing liminal order.
You know, nothing else.
tim pool
You know, it's awesome.
You know why I really despise Twitter?
It is a group of people that, mostly on the left, but some on the right do this.
It's the exception on the right, it's the rule on the left.
They formed communities of being awful to other people.
And I think about growing up skateboarding.
And I tell this a lot because really if you go skate, man, go to a skate park.
If you go to a skate park, you've never skated before, there will be 100% of people there, maybe 99% will absolutely love to teach you everything they know about skateboarding, the rules, the culture.
Learning about skateboarding trick names and history, it's oral tradition.
There is no book that teaches you the language of the skateboarding jargon.
Like if I said, nollie, hardflip, backcrook, bigspin out.
People would be like, I have no idea this.
But skateboarders immediately are like, oh, I know exactly what that is.
You know, bigflip, backtail, bigspin.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
These are things you learn from people.
You see it happen, they tell it to you.
There's no book.
Go to a skate park and you'll see... I've seen this before.
A 40-year-old guy who's never skated before who's trying to learn how to do a kickflip.
And he looks awful doing it.
And then he finally lands the worst kickflip ever done and everyone in the park is cheering and clapping and high-fiving him.
And they're like, yeah!
Because he accomplished it for himself.
You're surrounded by these people who are cheering you on with a smile on their face for your accomplishment.
You're not better than anyone else.
Everybody knows everyone's got their own thing.
Some people are really good.
Some people are arrogant.
I look at that community I grew up in of positivity, of fun, freedom, recreation, and I compare it to what Twitter is.
They're mirror images.
They're opposite of each other.
ian crossland
A great lesson I learned growing up was I studied acting for like 20 years.
I went to school for it.
And a big part of the lessons was learning intention.
What do you intend when you're on stage?
It's not what you're saying.
jack murphy
What's my motivation?
ian crossland
What's my motivation?
What do I want from this situation?
And your actions and your words lead you towards that.
And the goal was to make the other actors look better.
The idea, a great actor makes the other actors look even better.
And that's the point.
And that's kind of how I try to live.
jack murphy
Oh, well, you're talking about the servant leadership model in that regard.
Then if you're the best kind of leadership is the one where you look around at the people on your team and you try to figure out how to make their lives better, easier, and the mission more easily accomplished.
Servant leader.
I wish we saw more of that in our president in the last four years.
Just thinking back, though, about what you said about the skate community, that really actually kind of touched me a little bit.
That's amazing, right?
Just positive energy, even for people making the smallest amount of progress, right?
That's the kind of environment you need to find yourselves in, guys.
If you go to the gym and you're a total noob and you're fat and you're out of shape, But you go in there and you break a sweat and you put in the time.
I guarantee you every one of those guys that's ripped and looks like he's on steroids and everything else is going to look at you and be like, good on you, dude.
Good on you.
As long as you're there doing the work, just getting better.
It's a hugely supportive environment.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet if you were fat and out of shape and walked into a gym and just saw some dude working out who was like in shape and said, bro, teach me.
He'd be like, let's do it, dude.
Here's what I do.
Here's what I like to do.
Here's what works for me.
People love to share what they do.
They love to socialize.
jack murphy
Well, especially when what you're doing brings you joy and health and longevity and peace of mind and low stress and all these wonderful things.
Yeah, you want to share.
tim pool
You want to share it, but that's why they shut down gyms.
That's why they shut down skate parks. This is the craziest thing
I see I see all this on Instagram There's a lot of skate parks are still open
But it's crazy to me when I see people are like they shut down the skate park for no reason. It's outdoor
It's like most there'll be 15 people there at a time It's not there's not hundreds of people get but they shut
it down why maybe because people are gathering talking forming communities getting along
ian crossland
You think it's that insidious?
Like the Great Reset trying to destroy people?
Or is it more just they think people are breathing heavy and like transmit COVID?
tim pool
I think all of it, intention, in my opinion, is irrelevant.
What I mean to say is these are things that allow us to do these things.
And whether it's on purpose or not, they've destroyed these positive elements of our communities.
They've destroyed our communities.
But you know for the most part people are still finding a way to go out do their thing and you know it's not it's not absolute it's it's it's crippled to a serious degree but at least people are still you know finding ways to have that community.
I think man go to an open mic night you know play some music if you don't.
ian crossland
Those are fun.
tim pool
Or uh if you're learning and just introduce yourself to some people and say hey it was a really great song you know i'm i'm here and they're like oh yeah we come here every thursday and just make friends and then everybody cheers each other on but i tell you man What you're talking about, Tim, is community.
Exactly.
jack murphy
Community has proven to make you happier, healthier, and wealthier.
luke rudkowski
Family.
That's another big element of this.
tim pool
I love this idea.
You see these videos a lot where a mom will bring her 7-year-old kid to a skate park.
And then she's like, I was really worried they would, the kids there would be upset that my son was there trying to learn.
And then it's like this touching video where like one of the 17 year olds is like, let me teach your son some tricks.
And then she's like, I couldn't believe how nice they were and welcoming.
And I'm like, dude, happens every single time at every skate park.
If you come in with your kids and you let your kids romp about and run rampant and don't communicate with people, they'll get mad at you.
If you go in there and say, we'd like to, you know, help our kids learn.
Everyone's going to be like, yeah, dude.
Hey, little man, let me show you this trick and be really excited for you.
It's all about just being a part of it.
jack murphy
You know, it all starts with, is it cool?
Like, is it cool?
If you're like, Hey, I know I'm not trying to like get in on your thing and ruin it or whatever, but can we try a little bit, you know, a little bit of humility combined with community goes a long way.
It's what we're missing today, man.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
unidentified
My eyes are watering up.
tim pool
But look at what Twitter is.
ian crossland
It's the opposite.
tim pool
It's all text.
You guys watch Rick and Morty?
ian crossland
Occasionally.
tim pool
The episode where Rick and Morty get their toxic selves stripped away from them?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That toxic world is Twitter.
Where they're just, ah, I'm so angry all the time!
ian crossland
I swear it's text, because if you're in video chats with people, it doesn't usually happen.
luke rudkowski
When you're face-to-face with people, it doesn't happen.
As you were just saying, I literally just took the words out of your mouth.
jack murphy
When you see how big and tall I am, it usually doesn't happen.
luke rudkowski
But you've been sniffing a lot of lavender, I've been seeing.
jack murphy
I'm wearing patchouli.
luke rudkowski
I have a quote that I think is appropriate for this, that I think Jack will be gushing over uncontrollably.
It's one of my favorite quotes.
It's a hippy-dippy quote and it says, watch your thoughts, they lead to attitudes.
Watch your attitudes, they lead to words.
Watch your words, they lead to actions.
Watch your actions, they lead to habits.
Watch your habits, they form your character.
Watch your character, it determines your destiny.
ian crossland
You know, I find with intention creating— Your vibe is your tribe.
unidentified
A good method is you have the thought— Such a dirty hippie.
ian crossland
There's a tendency to want to keep repeating the thought and keep thinking, I'm great, I'm great, I'm great, I'm happy, I'm happy.
All you got to do is think it once and then have no thoughts and just let it resonate and just have faith in the process that once you create it once and just have no—but you have to have no thought.
If you if you start to have negative thoughts, that will taint the process.
And then you just allow with an empty mind it to, I don't know, collaborate.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, happiness is an inside job, is what I like to say.
tim pool
All right.
Well, how about we take over these?
We take some of these super chats.
jack murphy
I can smell you from here, you hippie.
tim pool
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Let's read some of these super chats.
We got Johnny Knoxville says I do a shot of Jaeger every time Tim says fascist.
How often do I say fascist?
ian crossland
How many times tonight?
lydia smith
Very often.
ian crossland
Once light drinker.
tim pool
Usually I said it all.
jack murphy
Usually the middle square in the drinking game for the Tim pool.
Uh, Tim Cass, IRL is, uh, back on occupy wall street occupy.
It's in the middle square of the bingo card.
ian crossland
My dad was a fireman, that's a good one.
Both our dads were firemen.
luke rudkowski
Listen Listen is also a big one.
unidentified
Yes, yeah, but no no, but like Listen listen, but is the third one
That I understand but fascist. I don't say all that often All right, we're trying to cut back
tim pool
Dilla my eager Dolomite says yeah, that's true. Thank you so much for all
you do and thank you for being respectful and speaking your opinion for rush
That's the crazy thing to me like I don't care which leftist would lose their life.
I said kind words about John McCain, and he was just like a really awful warmonger.
I'm not going to dance on anyone's grave, man.
I think death is horrifying.
jack murphy
That's your respite.
That's the respite.
lydia smith
Death is your respite.
tim pool
Sad, man.
Joint Decision says, question, what do you guys think, vaccine passport, travel, concerts, etc, etc, would you ever have Corbett report, oh, what do we think of vaccine passports, and would we ever have Corbett report on the show?
What do you think of him?
I don't know who he is.
ian crossland
James Corbett.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, James Corbett would be great.
He's usually on Point Sources, a lot of his stuff, and he's on top of it.
He's really good, but he's in Japan.
tim pool
What do we think about vaccine passports?
Um, I have one.
When I went to Venezuela, I had to get one.
And I had to get, I think, three different vaccines.
And then the doctor gives you a card, and then he signs it and says which ones you've gotten.
And then when you go, they, you have to have, like, I think you have to have yellow fever.
That's like the main one you have to have.
luke rudkowski
There's other individuals who, you know, I don't know.
I don't I'm not advocating for this, but just print out forms online and just fill them out themselves and show up at the border and get back.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
What do you guys think?
Good thing or bad thing?
luke rudkowski
Bad thing.
Centralization.
Really bad thing.
I don't trust the government.
If you're talking about a world, the database, you think China is not going to abuse that data?
Of course they will.
jack murphy
I don't know, man.
Don't be bringing measles into my neighborhood.
ian crossland
I got mixed feelings about germ theory.
You know, the germ theory is still a theory of medicine.
No one knows for sure how diseases are transmitted.
tim pool
I don't think that's correct.
ian crossland
It's called germ theory for a reason.
lydia smith
It is called germ theory.
tim pool
But it's not called germ hypothesis.
lydia smith
We don't know everything about how germs spread, but we do know that they exist.
We're simply studying exactly how it is.
ian crossland
How would you define a germ?
tim pool
That's a law.
That's a law.
lydia smith
That's a law is when it's assumed to be true.
That's why we call it a law.
tim pool
Like, theories are heavily tested to the point where we believe them to be true.
ian crossland
That's a law.
tim pool
That's a law.
No, beyond a reasonable doubt.
ian crossland
That's a law is when it's assumed to be true.
tim pool
We have a theory of gravity, but we know gravity exists.
That's why we call it a law.
It's not the law.
ian crossland
Laws are theories, but they're just heavily agreed upon theories.
Right.
Germ theory is a heavily agreed upon theory.
unidentified
I agree.
ian crossland
We know that it is a theory.
No one knows for sure.
They, they developed like 1840 where they thought that pathogens floated through the air and went into you.
I think that sometimes it's like, um, like a SIM because sometimes I'll talk on the phone with someone and I'll hear him sniffling and I'll start to sniffle.
So it's like the sympathetic vibrations.
Yeah.
Mirror neurons are a real function of nature.
So I think that maybe sometimes illnesses is related to mirror neurons.
tim pool
That's just called psychosomatic.
Right.
ian crossland
That kind of thing, yeah.
So I wonder if disease can be transmitted just through, like, experiencing it, you know, visually.
tim pool
Symptoms can, but I think it's fair to say that if you believe in science and you trust general human understanding of it, then you would know what a theory is.
I'll tell you that for you to come on here and say no one knows, clearly you haven't.
ian crossland
It's called germ theory, Tim.
You should read about it and we should all, we should study it heavily.
Dude, oh my god!
No, I'm serious.
It's called Germ Theory.
It's been around for 180 years.
tim pool
This is one of the dumbest things you've ever said.
ian crossland
Are you kidding me?
jack murphy
Whoa, that's a huge thing.
unidentified
That is!
Come on, dude!
tim pool
I love you, though.
You can't go on the show and be like, Germ Theory.
We don't even know.
It could be magic vibrations of the phone getting people sick.
Sorry, dude.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Uh, yeah.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
ian crossland
Actually, it's called Germ Theory.
tim pool
We can literally look at viruses.
It's called Germ Theory.
Yeah, it's called- I know.
ian crossland
I'm not saying the virus- It's the theory of gravity.
The virus isn't real.
tim pool
Gravity isn't real.
ian crossland
Viruses are real, but I don't think a virus floating across the room and going in your nose is what's doing it, necessarily.
I don't know.
tim pool
Why would you even say that?
ian crossland
Because it's a scientific theory that I'm interested in studying more of, and I've found, talking on the phone with people that are experiencing symptoms, that I will recitate those symptoms sometimes.
jack murphy
Reciprocate?
tim pool
Psychosomatic symptoms are a normal thing that happen all the time.
And you're not discrediting the idea of viruses and germs infecting people and causing illnesses simply because you've experienced it.
ian crossland
Well, you've got to define a germ, first of all.
Viruses, bacteria, things like that, yeah, those are real things.
And they can float through the air and get on you, I know that.
And cleaning them off is good, because you don't want them to replicate.
I don't know if maybe they aren't just, if your body's not like already having them and creating them and incubating them anyway.
tim pool
And climate change is caused by Santa Claus's factory producing too many toys.
If we're gonna make things up, we can make up whatever we want.
Let's keep reading Super Chats.
Pirate Tomski says, Neville Chamberlain was a D-bag.
This appeasement to totalitarian governments will end up as a stain on the history of our species.
Species, again.
History repeating itself right now.
I'd say so.
Jonathan Galtorini says Kyle Rittenhouse case was dismissed with prejudice, meaning it can never be filed again.
Guess who dismissed?
The plaintiffs dismissed it with prejudice on their own accord without any reason.
Is that true?
I don't think that's true.
Is that true?
jack murphy
I haven't heard it.
luke rudkowski
I'm seeing it on Twitter, but I haven't seen it verified.
tim pool
Wow, that's huge!
jack murphy
I haven't heard that.
I'm too busy getting texts about the history of basketball, whether my face was red or what a theory is.
I knew it!
ian crossland
You really care.
tim pool
So I'm wondering, is this the civil case or the criminal case?
luke rudkowski
Oh, I don't know.
The civil, I heard.
jack murphy
I mean, they would have called it the prosecution rather than the plaintiff, no?
Had it been the criminal case.
luke rudkowski
We're finding out.
tim pool
Plaintiff would be civil, right?
jack murphy
Plaintiff would be civil.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Josh Martina says, I can't use PayPal, but I need to see Alex Jones wake up Luke.
Please Tim, I'm begging you, get an alternative.
luke rudkowski
You're not missing much.
tim pool
We have a company working on expanding and building, and it's going to take time.
That's all we can do.
luke rudkowski
It's literally me being like, what?
lydia smith
He was so nice.
luke rudkowski
Huh?
Yeah, which is weird because we have a history, but whatever.
lydia smith
He's a very nice person.
tim pool
Justin Crotaw says, you guys should talk with the guys from ADV podcasts.
They lived in China and know all about that stuff.
They had to run just because they were filming to show how awesome the culture was, but CCP was paranoid.
Wow.
luke rudkowski
Are these the motorcycle guys?
I think they, I think they, they had, there's these like YouTubers that I watched that rode motorcycles all around China.
And then they said that the situation there got so bad against Westerners, they had to leave.
And now they're making other videos similar to China Uncensored.
We should have China back too.
I think they're very relative now as well.
And those guys too with the motorcycles would be great.
jack murphy
Are they related to the guys in blue that are always at all the MAGA protests?
All the Chinese guys in blue?
luke rudkowski
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure to be honest with you.
They're white Americans that went to China.
jack murphy
There's a huge contingent of Chinese protesters that show up at most of the MAGA things.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's a big contingent of right-wing Chinese people as well, which is interesting.
jack murphy
And they all wear blue.
tim pool
All right, we got Commander232 says, Admittedly, there is a risk in any course we follow other than this.
But every lesson of history tells us the greater risk lies in appeasement.
And this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face.
A time for choosing.
R. Reagan.
ian crossland
That freaks me out.
That's like kind of the sign, the thing I'm wrestling with the most in like my deepest subconscious is how do we deal with this Chinese Communist Party?
luke rudkowski
Stop investing in it with our behaviors and the only reason China is as powerful as they are right now and continue to be as powerful is because of multinational corporations that the United States subsidizes and works with that is propping them up and giving them a ton of money.
Their slave labor.
jack murphy
To our individual consumer choices in America.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
jack murphy
Yes.
It's on us, basically.
tim pool
Jesse Moorfield says, Hey Tim, I know you aren't quite open to guest suggestions, but I think it would be awesome if you had Jordan Peterson's daughter, Michaela, on the show.
I think she would slide easily into the convo.
lydia smith
She has a standing invite, does she not?
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
Presumably.
ian crossland
I don't know.
I just watched an awesome interview with Jordan Peterson and God Saab today.
lydia smith
He's the bomb.
They're both so awesome.
ian crossland
I love those guys.
tim pool
Claymore says, with the crystal ball there in front of Ian, super happy he decided to wear pant, lol.
ian crossland
I did it for Jack.
tim pool
Thank you.
ian crossland
I don't know what that meant.
Oh, I did wear pants.
I did this at one point in the show.
tim pool
Oh, and they're like, he's not wearing pajamas?
jack murphy
Through the crystal ball, they can see your pants.
tim pool
We have more people saying get Serpensaw and Lawye86 on as guests.
Yes, yes.
ian crossland
I've seen them confirm they want to come on, so maybe it's just a matter of getting through to them.
tim pool
But where are they?
Is it an international issue?
Frag the Planet says, If future progresses, we will have so much of our data collected.
Satellites more powerful, everything is cataloged as they happen in real time.
All you do from the minute moment will be exploited and curated to extract your money, time, and attention.
jack murphy
That's absolutely right, which is why the window is closing.
The Panopticon is coming.
How many more years do we have?
Five?
Ten?
unidentified
Two?
Oh, it's here.
jack murphy
Come on.
tim pool
Facebook knows when you boom.
jack murphy
I know, but the one in conjunction with the satellites and the whole thing and literally every move, every breath, every thought.
tim pool
What was it called?
ian crossland
Tripwire?
unidentified
It's coming.
tim pool
Was that what it was called?
luke rudkowski
I don't remember.
tim pool
Where all these cameras are networked and using facial recognition, and that was seven years ago?
Yeah, I think, look man, if the civilian technology has all this stuff, government technology is probably right.
jack murphy
I saw Batman.
Wasn't one of the end scenes in one of those Nolan Batmans where he gets his version of Q or whatever to go out and link up everybody's cell phones so he can actually see everywhere in the whole city?
tim pool
No, he does it against the wishes of his His cue.
jack murphy
Whatever his name is, yeah.
tim pool
So he uses every cell phone as basically sonar and then can track anyone and anywhere and he finds the joke.
I think it's Dark Knight who does this.
jack murphy
Yeah, the Panopticon is here, I guess.
ian crossland
There's that neural net.
jack murphy
Run!
tim pool
Micas says, I quit Twitter earlier today.
I decided I had enough and deleted it and my Facebook.
YouTube might be next, but I use it so much it's hard to leave.
Well, you can always go to TimCast.com and become a member in the event you do get rid of all your social media.
jack murphy
That reminds me of this Workaholics episode where they're like, oh, we're quitting drinking!
And they're like, oh, really?
How much time do you have sober?
And they're like, 11 hours.
It's pretty good.
lydia smith
It's better than nothing.
tim pool
Mason Whaling says, in the Boxer Rebellion, the Harmonious Fists began violence against Western influence by killing two priests, attacking not only the British, but U.S.
Embassy, too.
The opium trade was secondary to ridding China of religion.
Interesting.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
OMG Puppy says there are people who will throw open their window and yell I've had enough.
People who watch their neighbors with binoculars and snitch on them.
And people who close their windows and hope nobody hurts them.
Interesting.
Well, people need to say no to the authoritarianism, man.
ian crossland
And you need to do it loudly, in public, on video, on the internet, because yelling in your room is not enough these days.
luke rudkowski
Or wearing a t-shirt outside in public, letting people know where you stand politically.
Letting them know that not all hope is lost.
tim pool
Jay Rich says, FB, Google, and Amazon are backbone of the internet.
Trillions in data centers and network infrastructure.
Saying they're a fad is like saying electricity is a fad.
They're not going anywhere.
ian crossland
I tend to agree.
luke rudkowski
That's a very good point.
I mean, they're definitely cementing themselves as the key kind of infrastructure.
But again, anything could happen.
There could be an internet 2.0, 3.0, we never know.
jack murphy
Nope, technology has ceased evolving.
There'll be no new innovations, no new companies, no new ideas.
This is it.
We're done.
We're frozen in time.
luke rudkowski
Good point, Jack.
jack murphy
Thank you.
It's hard to imagine that these things will go by the wayside, but they certainly will.
When Windows 95 came out, everybody thought that was the end.
tim pool
Alessio Damante says to Ian, my wife just called you LSD Jesus.
ian crossland
I do like LSD.
It's derived from ergot, which is a fungus that grows on rye.
lydia smith
It's organic.
ian crossland
Cosmic Collectibles says, would love for you to have the quartering on again to discuss the oppressive wokeness of the Magic the Gathering content creator community and their alienation of conservative players.
It's pretty fantastic stuff. Thank you to you and your wife.
tim pool
Cosmic Collectible says, Would love for you to have the quartering on again to
discuss the oppressive wokeness of the Magic the Gathering content creator community and their alienation of
conservative players. GF and I sending love from Texas.
Maybe you'll need to make your own Magic the Gathering.
Because, look, for those that don't know what it is, it's one of the most popular card games in the world, physical, and it's not just about wokeness and critical theory and the weird things the company is doing.
The game is just broken.
ian crossland
Dude, we played a couple weeks ago, me, Tim, Adam, a bunch of us at like six in the finals.
tim pool
It's just a broken game.
ian crossland
I went at Tim so hard.
Because he was playing a deck, we're on turn five.
tim pool
No excuses.
ian crossland
Turn five, it was going to go infinite and win the game.
tim pool
That's not true.
ian crossland
And I knew it.
tim pool
That's not true.
ian crossland
And he was like, dude, stop attacking me.
But I just, I wouldn't stop.
That's not what happened.
Because if I didn't do it, he'd like, he plays the victim and then in one turn wins.
tim pool
What actually happened was, it's six players.
I'm essentially, you know, I have very little free time throughout the day.
And so this is the problem with Magic the Gathering right now.
They've made, the game itself is just a broken game.
So it's not about wokeness.
It's not about, you know, ostracizing conservative players.
It's about, for whatever reason, they just shattered the game with updates to it, with new rules, with new cards.
And so, I think this is the perfect example of where people gotta make their own game.
ian crossland
It's pay to win.
tim pool
Well, but you gotta make your own game, right?
ian crossland
We have been talking about it, and it's called, well, I don't know, it doesn't really matter what it's called, but it is hot.
I made it too balanced, where like it was going on forever when we playtested it.
But I think we're crafting it down so that it can be a quick, fun party game.
And it's not pay to win.
Magic is like if you go out and you have all the money, you can buy all the really powerful mythic cards and you just dominate your friends.
But a game that's like out of the box, where everyone's on an even playing field, I think is the future.
tim pool
You know, honestly, it could be that the game is breaking because of some weird parallel with wokeism.
So, a simple way to explain it.
You've got, uh, Captain Marvel, for instance.
Did you watch that, Captain Marvel?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
tim pool
She's just insanely powerful for what reason?
You know, in Avengers Endgame, she, like, blows up the entire, like, Thanos' massive warship just on her own.
Thanos headbutts her and she doesn't even flinch.
And people, when I was watching, when I watch this in the theaters, they groaned when it happened.
Like, come on, man.
Every—characters have to have some limits.
What's happening now with a lot of the new sets that are coming out is it's just, like, bonkers power level that, like, I'm looking at it like, I don't want to play that.
It's bad enough one person can win the game in, like, a turn or two.
I'm just not interested in playing this game.
And it may be something similar, where they just want everyone to have absurd amounts of power in these fictional worlds and these fantasies.
And it doesn't work, I guess.
jack murphy
If Magic the Gathering isn't part of the Tim Pool universe anymore, I have to rewrite my whole model on you.
tim pool
Oh, it's been out for a long time.
jack murphy
Has it been?
Because the very first time I ever came on the show, the very first thing you did when I got there was like, hey man, you play Magic?
And then the very first thing you did right after show, start playing Magic again.
So that's this inner weave.
tim pool
It's gone.
And it's partly because a bunch of the art was banned for being racist.
Oh.
So again, for those that aren't familiar, like you have, it's a magic game.
There's like white magic and green magic and red magic and black magic.
And so some of these cards have been deemed racist and banned outright.
ian crossland
It's crazy.
There's a black card that says destroy all white creatures that was banned.
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
That wasn't banned.
ian crossland
Oh, you're right, right.
There's a white card that says destroy all black creatures that was banned.
The black card that says destroy all white creatures wasn't banned.
Apparently it wasn't racist.
tim pool
No, no, but that card was actually even more racist.
So, in the Destroy All Black Creatures, banning it was racist because the picture is a bunch of goblins and demons being, like, hit with a blast of light.
And I'm like, what are they trying to imply by claiming that art showing demons being blasted by light is some kind of representation of the black community or in some way racist?
That is racist.
But the other card, which is a black magic card, and says destroy all white creatures, shows a black ooze destroying a knight in like shining armor.
And I'm like, so in both depictions, they have made racist... It's more like, that one should be the one that got banned.
ian crossland
I can't take the woke as a... Wizards of the Coast, who bought Magic the Gathering, also bought Dungeons and Dragons rather, is woke-ifying Dungeons and Dragons.
They're trying to get rid of orcs?
Is that right?
tim pool
No, no, race is gone or something.
ian crossland
Like, race doesn't matter.
Every race is the same, has the same access to abilities.
Like, no.
Races are different genetically.
Elves are more dexterous.
Orcs are stronger.
That is the nature of fantasy.
And they're trying to purify it and just dumb it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you've been Lord of the Rings.
jack murphy
Dude, I've played Dungeons and Dragons as a kid.
This just melts my brain.
You can just pick a race.
unidentified
Any race is gonna be suited to any... Dwarves are now six foot tall and archers.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you want your orc to be dexterous, if you want your elf to be strong, it's insane.
unidentified
It's not the way... I mean, look, look, look.
tim pool
You can call yourself a dragon.
I don't care what the rules... Like, it's a fantasy game where people play with their friends.
ian crossland
And you can make a strong elf, but they get a natural bonus to their dexterity because they're an elf.
jack murphy
Think about this logical consequence here.
The only advantage to being a human in Dungeons & Dragons was that you had, like, balanced stats.
unidentified
Yes.
jack murphy
Right?
And so now if your race doesn't matter in your character selection... Fantasy race, we'll clarify.
...in Dungeons & Dragons, then there's no reason to be human.
tim pool
No, there is.
ian crossland
Because you like... We need to make a new team.
tim pool
Because you want to be a human.
You want to be a human who can fly with dragon wings and throw fireballs from your nose.
ian crossland
Sounds like you want to be draconic.
luke rudkowski
I'm so confused about what's happening here.
tim pool
Listen, I'll be honest.
The thing about magic is that these are cards you need to play a game to win contests, and it's a sport.
The thing about Dungeons & Dragons, if I'm gonna sit around with my friends and make fantasy jokes, like we've played before, people gotta understand Dungeons & Dragons are not people, for the most part, wearing wigs and costumes and pretending to be Gandalf.
When we did it at the theater, it was joking about going to a bar and making everyone eat goat cheese.
It's just drinking beers, eating pizza, and making jokes.
ian crossland
Take mathematical risks with rolling dice.
tim pool
Yeah, just to have some consequences.
If people want to hang out and be like, I'm a dragon who can fart fireballs, I'm like, great!
I don't care.
ian crossland
Well, there are dragon hunters out there, and one of them opens a portal in front of you.
Roll initiative.
tim pool
All right, let's read.
We got this one.
Jake Kemp says, Wokeism is the inversion of wisdom.
I don't want to be woke, I want to be wise.
Given enough time, wokeism will destroy itself, so prepare and fight back.
Build, create, think, instruct, plan for the long term, and be wise.
Respect to all of you.
unidentified
Yeah.
Thank you, sir.
tim pool
Joe Schmo says, I love the show.
It makes the work week tolerable yet informed, but I'd appreciate it.
I'd appreciate it.
If Ian's perspectives were respected more, he's trying to make
sense of the sludge you're so deep in, but I feel that he's shot down too
often instead of understood and debated.
Well, I can certainly respect that.
ian crossland
Thank you.
luke rudkowski
Interesting point.
ian crossland
Thank you I also appreciate Tim your willingness to poke holes in the things I say because it makes me really Look at what I'm saying it holistically.
So I do appreciate that.
lydia smith
But yeah, that guy's right Is why we have free speech and it's not to shoot each other down it's to engage our own ideas and find out where the Steel Plus, I always try to defend you when I'm here.
unidentified
Thanks, Jay.
A little bit.
jack murphy
And then I go back and then respond to all the comments that talk trash about you, and I'm like, yeah, that's what you said.
ian crossland
I know him in person, and yeah.
jack murphy
You're right.
tim pool
Philippe Brevard says, ever thought of having Ezra Levant from the Canadian Rebel News in the show?
Big free speech, freedom of press, and pro-civil rights advocate.
He's in Canada.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we can't have Canadians.
Yeah.
lydia smith
I think he follows me.
luke rudkowski
They have a two-week quarantine and they have to pay thousands of dollars and have mandatory testing.
There are a lot of insane rules that they have to go through now.
lydia smith
It's bad.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's a British thing.
tim pool
We got another request from Luminiscent says, please get LWIAY and Serpentza on.
They are in the USA.
Lydia already in talk with them, but they are still waiting for the invitation confirmation.
They are?
lydia smith
I have reached out to LWIAY.
tim pool
Well, they can come whenever they want.
lydia smith
They never got back to me.
I reached out to him on December 10th, 2020.
ian crossland
Those dudes have some deep inside knowledge.
lydia smith
So just waiting.
Well, let's get the word out.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
Mr. Cook says, who played the Summon Biden card?
Does it give 20 direct damage to the player?
unidentified
Sniffs.
tim pool
Yeah, sniffs.
unidentified
He smells you so hard that it rips your skin off.
jack murphy
He just eats your daughters.
tim pool
We have another individual.
Casey Lorne said, Hi, from Canada.
Great show.
Jack is awesome.
Would you ever consider having Ezra Levant on the show?
Of course.
The problem is, from Canada!
There are a bunch of people I wanted to have on.
I really would love to have Carl Benjamin.
He is the host of the Lotus Eaters podcast.
Y'all can check that one out.
And Count Dankula.
But they're in the UK, and so they're basically, you know, in jail.
lydia smith
Well Dankula's busy too, so.
tim pool
Can't leave.
Yeah, yeah, he's busy.
But they can't even travel.
So those are two people I'd love to have come hang out because they're cool dudes.
lydia smith
So many Canadians.
tim pool
Can't travel.
Yeah, now what we were saying Luke, like the other day you were mentioning that there's like a $2,000 charge if you go to the UK or something.
luke rudkowski
Well, in the UK, they make you quarantine.
I think it's $2,400, translated from pounds, that you have to stay in a hotel.
I forgot the exact number of days.
But yes, it seems like only the rich could travel now.
ian crossland
I made an offhand comment that it's a British thing, but it's British Commonwealth territory.
You see it now in Canada, which is British Commonwealth.
And in Australia, there's weird lockdowns.
So that's like the monarchy.
I'm just not a fan of monarchy.
luke rudkowski
History of worshipping the Queen.
tim pool
Danny, Danny Cheryl said honestly the subscription at Tim cast commas paid back in full just from hearing Luke rants
and Tim using Spicy words y'all are the highlight of my day. Well, so I
can't remember. What were we talking about?
I didn't pissed off about so Biden was gonna ban travel to Florida and
Then as we're getting ready for the members only segment Luke is walking back in just cussing up a storm
unidentified
And I was like press play. I just hit record button People were censoring you.
ian crossland
You were talking about people censoring you and you were just like unloading.
luke rudkowski
Just my history of journalism.
tim pool
So you gotta go to TimCast.com and find the segments like Luke Rants because it was Luke basically saying Reza Aslan can eat human brain on TV and they're monetized and supported and given front page access but his channel gets censored and restricted by YouTube.
ian crossland
It was great.
tim pool
And yeah, a lot of cussing.
luke rudkowski
It's just, you know, sometimes it's unfair and you gotta vent and you gotta express that, but I've been doing like a lot of hardcore journalism on WeAreChange and it's unforgiving work and I have no regrets.
I'm happy where I am right now.
tim pool
BarePost says, yes gentlemen, this encouraging and positive society exists right now.
It's called, I don't know if you put the X in church on purpose, churchics.
We need God more than ever right now.
Maybe it just means church.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Christian church.
tim pool
Aurora Dia says Joshua Philip from the Epoch Times is the China expert you need.
ian crossland
Oh, I love that guy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, definitely be done.
The mainstream media hates Epoch Times for some reason.
Can't be critical of China.
Vincent Serrano says, I work with hundreds of kiddos daily.
Indoctrination of new normal and media culture is horribly impacting these young minds.
Find at bare odd fruit on all social media.
They are trying to fight back.
Yeah.
And then Mark L says, Hodge twins ever invited?
I mean, yeah, of course.
That'd be awesome.
luke rudkowski
They would have to sit next to each other, though.
lydia smith
Yeah, it'd be great.
unidentified
What do they do?
luke rudkowski
It's totally fitting.
It'll be funny.
ian crossland
I've heard of these guys before.
luke rudkowski
They have to sit next to the microphone.
tim pool
Comedians.
Yeah, yeah.
They're on Crowder all the time, aren't they?
lydia smith
Yeah, they were just the other night.
luke rudkowski
I think they're in Texas, right?
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
Do they have to sit next to each other?
luke rudkowski
It'll be funny.
ian crossland
Two microphones coming from two directions.
tim pool
Drew says, read the White House and the House's website and read about how Biden called Xi Jinping for two hours about our infrastructure and the House having meetings today on reparations.
Yeah, the reparations thing was interesting.
I think, I don't know if you were, did you bring it up, Lydia, earlier?
ian crossland
Yeah, I mentioned it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, you know what, I was thinking about it.
Let me ask you guys a question.
The omnibus spending bill.
How much money went overseas, right?
What would you rather have?
What would you rather have?
All of that spending that went to, you know, $10 million in gender studies to Pakistan and $100 million to defense foreign countries.
Would you rather have all of that spending that was, you know, I was like nearly a trillion, go overseas?
Or would you rather have that just be given to the black community for reparations?
luke rudkowski
I'd rather not be taxed.
tim pool
He had to do one of them.
luke rudkowski
No, that's government putting a gun to your head saying pick two really horrible options.
No, none of them.
I'm not participating in your system and giving you my power.
jack murphy
You suck at hypotheticals.
ian crossland
I don't know what the money went to.
luke rudkowski
They were very vague about it.
OK, Jack, compromise your morals and tell us what you would do at the threat of a gunpoint right now.
jack murphy
If I have no choice in the matter, actually, you know, if you're going to be honest, African-Americans in the United States got a raw deal.
No question.
Right.
For a long, long time.
I personally would prefer us to take all that money that we spend on other people that aren't U.S.
citizens, who just became citizens or just got here, who weren't here.
If we, gun to my head, I would be in favor of that.
Definitely.
ian crossland
How do you repair?
You know, I'm all about repairing society, but giving people that are worth several hundred thousand, a dude that makes $200,000 a year, giving him $5,000 because of the color of his skin is weird to me because that doesn't really repair society.
jack murphy
You're not participating in the hypothetical.
unidentified
I was given two choices, dude.
tim pool
Alright, third choice.
You keep the money for yourself.
luke rudkowski
Jack Murphy supports reparations.
It's official, guys.
tim pool
It's easy for me.
I would rather all of that money we just dumped overseas?
Yeah, reparations.
That's an easy answer.
It goes to Americans who live here.
I don't care if they gave it to one guy whose name was John Smith, and they were like, here's 1.9 trillion dollars, it's going to an American citizen.
ian crossland
That would be worse if you gave it all to one guy, because that was the first thing I thought.
tim pool
That's probably true, because then he'd spend money on, like, politics or whatever.
luke rudkowski
He would invest in the economy.
jack murphy
Come on!
Last time I was here, I said, Hey, what happens to lottery winners?
They spend all their money in stupid ways and they go crazy.
And you guys were like, no, no, no, no, no.
In the last 20 years, lottery winners have hired wealth management companies and they're very smart about it.
So that Joe Smith and his $1.9 trillion would not waste it one bit.
tim pool
No, no, no.
They would, they would, they would start dumping it into politics.
Yeah.
I wouldn't want that, but I got to tell you, it's still better than giving it.
It wasn't 1.9 trillion going all just to, you know, foreign, foreign nations.
But it look, if we're like, we're going to give $10 million to gender study.
And now let me pull a name out of a hat.
I'll go on Twitter, grab a random account, give them the $10 million.
ian crossland
Foreign gender studies is the most insane.
One of the most insane things that the government has given money to overtly in the last 20 years.
luke rudkowski
That's what government does.
ian crossland
I mean, besides all the military stuff.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ian crossland
Gender studies.
tim pool
What the hell?
Pakistani gender studies.
ian crossland
Is it because women were suppressed and they want to give women the freedom of speech or something?
tim pool
I don't care.
I don't understand why.
Look, I understand foreign grants and stuff and federal aid, but our country is collapsing.
Mass evictions are around the corner.
Somebody tweeted, hey, I'm starting to think they're not even going to give us $1,400 anymore.
Yeah, you think?
Biden lied to you.
Like, you're not getting any money.
ian crossland
It's worth less than it was six months ago.
tim pool
Did you see the food inflation stuff that's about to hit?
This is crazy, man.
The, like, grain is, like, if you look, if you, I forgot what the charts was, because I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I was looking at some financial Twitter accounts talking about grain is starting to look like it's going to skyrocket in price, and it's going to ripple across basically all food.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Everything.
Yeah, grains and other agricultural goods.
Once corn goes up, everything else goes up around it.
I'm already hearing from friends, they're like, I went to the store and I couldn't believe how expensive it was.
ian crossland
So the other option is the government's gonna have to subsidize these companies to keep the prices low, which means they're gonna have to print more money to subsidize them.
tim pool
Which will cause more inflation and make the prices go up.
ian crossland
Or the prices go up and they don't subsidize it and then people can't afford it.
tim pool
Bro, we're in pre-World War II era.
Like the hyperinflation of Weimar Germany.
jack murphy
Another reason why Bitcoin went $52,000.
unidentified
$52,500!
jack murphy
Ethereum at $1,864.
52,000.
tim pool
52,500.
Ethereum at $1,864.
It's an all-time high.
Yep.
ian crossland
I think food inflation is going to be bad.
The Binance went up 300% in 12 days.
It went from $35 to $135, something like $45 to $135.
That's the coin that you use to cover the fees on Binance when you make trades.
So you can see that the trading market itself has exploded in popularity.
tim pool
Oh, interesting.
I think a lot of people are realizing the volatility of the dollar.
You cannot have a functioning economy when the government just prints $8 trillion.
What is this now, like 80% of the money supply in a year?
Just dumping it out?
Food's gonna go up, man.
And people... I'll tell you what's crazy.
People are saying right now, $1,400.
We can't even get that?
Bro, you're gonna need $2,800 once the price of milk doubles.
And you're not gonna have that either.
Your savings.
What's gonna happen now is not only are you not getting any money, but what little money you have is being cut in half.
Your buying power is being destroyed.
It's gonna get crazy.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I've been saying, just learn how to farm.
I've been saying that for a very long time.
jack murphy
Real estate.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out.
Jack, thanks for coming.
jack murphy
Hey, my pleasure, Tim.
Glad to be here.
Appreciate it.
If you want to follow me on Twitter, Jack Murphy Live, or sub on YouTube, really appreciate it.
Let's get me over 40,000.
Jack Murphy live on YouTube.
Let's do it.
Thanks for everybody.
Thanks, Tim.
Thanks, Lids.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
No problem.
tim pool
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We also got Luke.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and if you like what I do and you want to support me and to see me continue my work, sign up on my email list.
It's more important than ever.
WeAreChange.org, top right-hand corner.
I have nearly 673 hundred thousand YouTube subscribers.
Doesn't matter.
I have no access to it.
It's highly controlled, highly regulated.
What matters is that email list.
And then, yeah, I also do some deep dives.
I did a very interesting deep dive today.
YouTube, we are changed.
But most importantly, email list is the key essential way to keep me alive and well.
And because you guys do that, I'm still here.
So thank you so much for having me.
ian crossland
Sweet shirt, by the way.
Love you guys.
Leave a comment on this video when it's done.
Spread the love to the community, to everyone on the show.
Jack, thank you so much for coming on.
jack murphy
Ian, I love being here.
ian crossland
You are the man.
I love you.
jack murphy
Every other Wednesday.
luke rudkowski
You guys are okay.
ian crossland
Let's do it again in a couple weeks.
Keepin' it real.
Hit up iancrossland.net.
It's new and improved, and you can buy this mug, free the code.
Help me free the code.
And you can also buy a two pillows, one sack sack, or two pillows, one sack pillow.
It's a great merch all around.
tim pool
You started a pillow company, too?
ian crossland
I did.
We're a merging company now.
Let's go.
We're going the distance.
luke rudkowski
I had a pillow way before any of you guys, by the way.
tim pool
Just a heads up.
My friends, did you notice pinned in the chat is the official Our Pillow?
It is our pillow, and all proceeds go to me to buy things that I want.
But we do actually have a new prototype of our pillow.
It is a burlap sack stuffed with packing peanuts, and we are preparing a product that we are going to sell.
I think it's going to be 50 bucks each, and you will get a box full of packing peanuts with a folded burlap sack in the middle.
But don't worry!
We will be providing instructions on how to construct our pillow.
So after you get your box of packing peanuts with the burlap sack, you can make the pillow yourself!
And then I think the cost on our end is gonna be like a dollar, and we'll make a $49 profit because, hey, you know, communism, I guess.
You think I'm joking, and I am, but we're gonna make this.
Ian's got it.
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There it is.
lydia smith
Beautiful.
ian crossland
Wonderfully tailored.
tim pool
What did you think, Jack?
You used it.
jack murphy
I used it.
It was the best pillow I've ever used in my whole life, and I'm a gourmet pillow expert.
tim pool
You gotta be honest, though.
unidentified
Oh.
lydia smith
No, I appreciate that.
jack murphy
It was pretty scratchy and uncomfortable.
ian crossland
Instructions will be included.
tim pool
That's right.
luke rudkowski
Jack named her Bertha for some reason.
I don't know why he did that.
jack murphy
I thought that was a moment I had alone with the pillow.
luke rudkowski
I overheard it.
I'm sorry.
I compromised your privacy.
jack murphy
Bertha.
lydia smith
Troublemakers.
All right.
And I am Sour Patch Lids.
I'm on Twitter.
I am also on Mines.
And I am Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram and Gab.
tim pool
Go check out the exclusive episode with James O'Keefe at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
And we will see you all next time.
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Bye, guys.
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