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Jan. 27, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - China Implements "Internal Rear" SWAB COVID Tests, 3D Printed Guns Are EVERYWHERE
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alexander holladay
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ian crossland
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luke rudkowski
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
China is taking COVID very seriously And many of us have been wondering, how is it that their numbers have been so low this whole time?
Europe has been devastated.
The riots in Europe, in the Netherlands particularly, are so bad that one mayor is saying it's like civil war, or I'm sorry, that we're on the verge of civil war over the COVID-restricted lockdowns.
In the US, we've seen widespread riots and anger.
Well, I would say the riots have been primarily fueled by other things, but definitely many people have said that being pent up over the lockdowns and the restrictions has made people kind of angry and go nuts, and there's been a lot of riots because of it.
But in Europe, we've seen a lot.
In Tunisia, we've seen over 600 people arrested.
And the question is, once again, how has China managed to keep everything so tame?
Well, it's simple.
Better testing.
Donald Trump should have figured this out.
With better testing, we know exactly how many people have COVID and how to restrict them.
And it was simple.
China's been anal swabbing everybody to get a better reading.
I'm not kidding.
It's an actual story from Newsweek.
China has been anal...
Anal swabbing their citizens because they say it's a better test.
And I'm sorry, Luke, he brought this up to me and I said, that's not true.
luke rudkowski
I literally ran in the house.
I was like, I told you so.
It's coming.
It was here.
If you remember a couple of days ago, I was here.
I was like, what's next?
They're going to literally start shoving things up of your buttocks.
I said this on the show.
I said this for years.
I ran inside after I saw this Newsweek article.
And I was like, it's here.
It's finally here.
unidentified
It was coming to the United States.
tim pool
He was like, it's happening.
luke rudkowski
I was like, I told you.
And it's not probing.
It's not, sorry, it's... what was the term that they used?
Anal... swabbing?
No, it's anal probing, since it goes in two inches inside of you.
tim pool
And then they say they rotate it.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
And I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
luke rudkowski
Someone made a very inappropriate joke saying two inches, that's a lot in Asia.
I'm not gonna say who said that, but it's not swabbing, it's probing.
tim pool
The point is...
When I heard this, I started laughing because I'm like, it kind of just sounds like they're pushing our butt to see how much we're willing to accept before we finally lose our minds.
But apparently in China, everybody's okay with it.
ian crossland
Is it forced anal swabbing?
luke rudkowski
In China, everything's forced, okay?
They have a social credit score, you sneeze the wrong way, your credit's gonna go down, and you can't even go see a movie anymore, and your internet's gonna be shut down.
tim pool
You've gotta get tested in order to go in buildings, you get a phone with a barcode, and so if you wanna get your test, and the only thing they're doing is shoving stuff up people's butts, guess what?
It's either that or nothing.
So welcome to the brave new world.
China's doing it.
Look, but China also welded people into their homes and stuff like that, so... I don't know what America would be willing to accept with this, but, uh... Dr. Fauci says, hey!
Two masks!
Oh my god, why didn't we realize this?
If you wear one mask, just wear two.
And then I'm kind of like, well, Dr. Fauci should, what about three?
Oh, that makes, I'm not kidding.
Dr. Fauci is now saying we should wear two masks.
Okay, sure, whatever.
I swear, they're just pushing buttons and laughing, like, to figure out how much we're gonna take before we finally snap.
And things are getting crazy.
ian crossland
I think if they start anal-probing people here, they're gonna go crazy.
tim pool
No, I don't.
ian crossland
You don't think so?
tim pool
I don't think so.
ian crossland
What if it's forced, though?
That's what I'm concerned about.
Is that they're holding them down and they were like, they were doing this?
tim pool
Dude, they're already saying that your kids can't go to school.
ian crossland
So they're like, your mouth is no good.
tim pool
I mean, some people might lose it.
But they're already saying like, your kids can't go to school, you can't go on planes, unless you get your vaccine.
Was it United Airlines said all their employees have to get vaccinated now if they want to work there?
And people are just like, alright.
You know?
Look, I got no problem with vaccines, to be completely honest.
I just don't like the idea of forced anything.
So if people are going to get some invasive forced medication or whatever, then I think if they're willing to accept that, come on, man.
The vaccine goes in you, it's there forever.
And if you got no problem with that, then do you think people are really going to complain about having a swab shoved up their butt?
Some people might.
Some people are complaining about the vaccine.
I'm just saying it's crazy.
Okay, anyway, there's a bunch of other stories because we got in, uh, in, you know, like I mentioned in the Netherlands, there's mass riots.
So we'll talk about this.
We've got, uh, the FBI is now saying they're going to actually be charging people with sedition.
Xi Jinping was the talk of the town over at Davos.
Liberals are all clapping and cheering for that guy.
And, uh, this is interesting.
The Oregon Republican Party says the Capitol was a false flag, which is a bold statement the media is already screaming about.
So we'll get to all this stuff, and then, um, maybe we'll get to this, there's like a lost, um, a lost, what is it, Native American or whatever?
Indigenous fortress to fight the Russians found?
And I think it'd be fun to talk about some weird and wild stuff, so we'll get into that.
Ladies and gentlemen, that was a long intro, and I gotta introduce, we have a great guest, we have Alex Holliday of Control Pew.
You do something, you do a thing.
Tell me what that thing is, Alex.
alexander holladay
Yeah, so I'm part of a community that design and 3D print firearms, and we release them to the internet for free, and people can make them at home.
tim pool
You're teaching, you're giving people designs to make guns at home?
alexander holladay
Yes.
tim pool
Is that legal?
alexander holladay
Yes.
Wow.
So, in most places, and federally speaking, it is entirely legal to manufacture your own firearms at home for personal use.
tim pool
We were talking about this a couple episodes ago, and we were talking about the Liberator.
And I was like, isn't the 3D gun like it fires once and like it breaks or something?
And then people in the chat were like, dude, you are so far behind on the current tech.
And I was like, well, I don't know.
And so we got someone who does know.
There you go.
He's chilling.
And so we'll definitely talk about that stuff for sure.
Of course, we got Luke talking about anal swabs.
He's here.
luke rudkowski
I've been warning about anal swabs and probings for 15 years.
I'm an independent journalist, old man that's been doing work on the YouTube channel, We Are Change.
Check me out there if you want to see years of warning you that the anal probes are coming.
They're here in China and it's only going to get worse.
tim pool
Ian's chilling.
ian crossland
The anal prophecy has come true.
Luke, you were right.
Luke's anal prophecy.
Alex, what's the best 3D printer or printers to get to make guns?
alexander holladay
If you're on a tight budget, if you only have, you know, you can get in for 200 bucks, if that's all you've got to spend, get an Ender 3 Pro.
You can get them off Amazon, takes like three days to your door, and you're basically set.
If you've got a little more money to spend, go for an Ender 5 Pro.
It's a little more robust of a machine, gets you a little further, but they're still, they're basically the same machine.
tim pool
It's just like ABS, like plastic printing?
alexander holladay
Yeah, exactly that.
tim pool
But you still need metal parts, don't you?
alexander holladay
Yeah, and all of the designs we have now require some metal parts like a bolt or a barrel, but we've also figured out how to easily manufacture these with common off-the-shelf parts.
You can order mail order from China.
So it's really like we've solved all the big problems to get to the gun.
tim pool
And you were talking about something, I don't know if it's a top-secret project, Your secret weapon.
alexander holladay
It's a little secret.
It's been talked about a little bit in the back channels.
tim pool
We'll save the secret talk for later once we get into the nitty gritty.
Don't forget, Sour Patch Lettuce is here.
She's pushing all the buttons.
lydia smith
You're in the corner.
I'm just thinking about colonoscopies as we're talking about probing people.
So I don't know if there's any overlap.
But people will do whatever you tell them to do if they think it's necessary.
tim pool
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got top secret posts.
Actually, it's not secret.
It's members only posts, and we made sure to put the members at TimCast email to make sure everybody gets through without error.
We did a segment recently about the Portland Mayor pepper spraying some dude, and we kind of just ragged on him for quite a bit and all that stuff.
But once I got another video of Alex Jones waking up Luke, oh, I'm definitely going to milk that for all it's worth, Luke.
It's funny.
It's not political.
It's not news.
It's literally just watching some silliness.
luke rudkowski
I'm still taking suggestions on who I should surprise Tim Pool with when he's sleeping, so feel free to message me that on my Twitter account, LukeWeirdChange.
tim pool
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Of course, this show is always going to be free, and if you really want to make sure that, in the event we get banned, we still exist in some form, this is the way to do it.
That being said, my friends, let's talk about anal swabs.
Newsweek.com reports COVID anal swabs for Beijing residents more accurate, says Chinese expert.
I'll tell you right away, I'm not going to bury the lead.
They've been doing this for a long time now.
So, you know, Luke is talking about some prophecy.
It's actually already happening.
Check this out.
They say more than a million Beijing residents undergoing coronavirus testing amid a fresh outbreak have been administered anal swabs, which are considered more accurate and raise the chances of detecting COVID-19, said a Chinese disease specialist.
I gotta stop right there.
Okay, you know, I don't believe it.
The swabbing in the nose makes sense because it's a respiratory disease.
How does it make sense that COVID's in your butt?
ian crossland
In the mucus?
tim pool
Well, yeah, yeah, because like you cough it up, right?
ian crossland
Well, your butt has mucus in it.
tim pool
Does that mean COVID...
All right.
ian crossland
You guys really want to get down to it.
It coats the feces.
tim pool
Does that mean you fart COVID?
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
Most undoubtedly.
No, I don't know about that.
luke rudkowski
I think there was an article.
I don't remember.
I think Lydia, you remember this more.
Wasn't there an article that says that you transmit COVID through farts?
lydia smith
You do.
And it can be an STI.
Did you know that?
luke rudkowski
I keep telling you to stop farting all over the place.
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
lydia smith
We're going to talk about that.
tim pool
All right, they say the key districts of Daxing and Dongcheng began a mass testing drive on Friday after a nine-year-old boy tested positive for the more virulent strain of the virus first discovered in London and the southeast of England last month.
Health authorities in the Chinese capital said they were aiming to screen more than 2 million people in 48 hours, among them around 1.6 million inhabitants of Daxing.
were to be given antibody tests as well as throat, nasal, and rectal nucleic acid swabs.
Wonderful.
Anal swabs have been in use since last year, including in the major port city of Shanghai, but the method is so far reserved for individuals in potential COVID-19 hotspots, according to an infectious disease expert quoted by China state broadcaster CCTV on Saturday.
Quote, Since the start of the coronavirus outbreak, we've tested for the virus using mainly throat swabs.
Its characteristics are convenience and speed, so it's suitable for large-scale testing.
Said Beijing Yuan Hospital's Li Tongzheng, nasal swabs are more accurate than throat swabs, but nasal swabs can be uncomfortable.
unidentified
Ah!
tim pool
Well, there's a solution to that discomfort.
In some asymptomatic cases or in individuals with mild symptoms, they tend to recover from the illness very quickly.
It's possible that there will be no trace of the virus in their throat after three to five days.
What we've found is that in some infected patients, the coronavirus survives for a longer period of time in their digestive tract or excrement than in their respiratory tract.
Couldn't you just take a dump in a cup and give them the cup and leave?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
They want to jam stuff up your butt.
alexander holladay
It's got to be fresh.
tim pool
We're laughing at this.
It's like laughing as the Titanic is sinking.
ian crossland
Do you have a picture of the swab by any chance?
luke rudkowski
I posted about this story and everyone's sending me very inappropriate pictures of what allegedly is the swab.
tim pool
Pictures of Cuomo from CNN?
luke rudkowski
And other items that I can't describe here on this very family-friendly show.
But again, the medical experts here are saying that this is going to help the rate of detectability and lower the chance of misdiagnoses.
unidentified
So yes, the article also goes on.
tim pool
I have an image of the swab here just to show everybody.
unidentified
Oh, now I see the screen from Lydia's computer now.
Chris Cuomo.
tim pool
I'm kidding by the way, that was CNN when CNN is doing news and they're like, look at
this prop comedy we're doing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it.
luke rudkowski
But also, most importantly, the article goes on and says, on Friday, a resident of Tangshan in Hubei province, about 120 miles east of Beijing, told CCTV that she was given double rectal swabs, probes, they're really probes because they go inside to two inches inside of you, as part of a city-wide testing in her area.
She said each swab took just under 10 seconds.
So, You were talking about people being pent up, and they're definitely going to have to loosen up with all these new government testings.
You were questioning, is it mandatory?
Is it voluntary?
In China, nothing is voluntary.
If you make fun of the government, Government officials will literally take you away at night, sit you down in a chair where you're handcuffed with your feet and hands, and will interrogate you until you apologize for making fun of the government.
If you're lucky.
Otherwise, a lot of people just get their organs harvested in China for criticizing the government.
And, of course, things like this.
Having the wrong religion.
Yeah.
This, of course, is not something that is going to be voluntary.
tim pool
There's a viral video of a dude in a chair with braces.
And the cops are like, so why did you say you don't like police?
And he's like, I'm so sorry.
It's all in Mandarin.
He's like, I'm so sorry.
I didn't mean it.
I was just drinking.
And they're like, you were drinking?
You think that absolves you of responsibility?
You thought it was okay to make fun of the police?
And he's begging them, I'm so sorry.
It's a black room.
And he's bolted down to a chair as they're like threatening him and demanding he apologize and say he'll never do it again.
There's another video where a woman turns her phone camera on and puts it down, you hear a knock on the door, and then cops come in and just randomly arrest her.
And she's like, what's happening?
And they're like, shut up, you're under arrest.
luke rudkowski
I think she was one of the people warning the world about COVID.
Because a lot of nurses, a lot of doctors, a lot of lawyers, a lot of journalists went to jail and are still missing because they were telling people of the world, hey, there's this mystery virus going around last year.
And then the Chinese government was hiding that fact, of course, making sure the world was unprepared.
when they knew. There's some reports and intelligence from November that the Chinese
government knew that there was this new strain of coronavirus that was going around that they
tim pool
knew was going to be a major issue. They instructed Chinese nationals and other countries to start
collecting PPE, buying it up and sending it back to China so that they would have it,
other countries wouldn't. That's what they do.
I mean, I can't blame them for fighting for their own personal interest or their own national interests, but I can blame them for the freaky authoritarianism and all that stuff.
Now listen, here in the United States, we don't have these anal probe things going on.
Yet.
Considering Xi Jinping was the talk of the town over at Davos, I wouldn't be surprised if they come back and they're like, you're not a bigot, are you?
Stop being so prude and accept your probe.
Okay, well, we don't have that going on for now, but we do have Fauci saying two masks.
Why didn't anybody think of this?
We were all wearing one mask to stop the spit from coming out.
Now Fauci is talking about two masks.
Perhaps he's talking about wearing a mask on your butt to stop the butt-covid from coming out, but he's not.
He's talking about wearing two masks on your face.
The New York Post says two face masks are better than one, Dr. Fauci said Monday.
The infectious disease specialist advised that double masking is a logical way to curb the spread of the coronavirus.
If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective, Fauci said on the Today Show.
The White House advisor explained that face coverings prevent respiratory droplets and the virus from spreading to other people, as well as protecting the wearer.
Oh, now they're saying it protects you.
ian crossland
He's saying it would likely be better, so he's not saying it would be?
tim pool
He doesn't know.
ian crossland
He doesn't know.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, this is also the same guy that just a few months ago was telling us not to wear masks.
It's not safe.
You don't know what you're doing, especially if you're not a medical professional.
Stop buying and using all the masks.
And, you know, what's the point?
If someone farts and toots anyway, you're going to get COVID.
So what's the point of having a mask?
tim pool
Well, more specifically, his tone.
So this was this was last year when a bunch of conservatives were like, Go quick, go buy masks!
And the media was like, oh jeez, don't buy masks.
luke rudkowski
And the Chinese government was buying up a lot of the masks.
tim pool
Fauci's attitude wasn't just, well, you don't need to buy masks and here's why.
It was really condescending.
It was like, oh, you don't need masks.
ian crossland
Oh, come on.
tim pool
What's up?
A mask isn't going to protect you.
Don't bother.
And then we even had the Surgeon General saying the same thing.
And then sure enough, something weird happened where like conservatives on the left flipped on the issue.
And then all of a sudden, conservatives are the ones not wearing masks and the left were the ones wearing masks.
I have no idea how that happened.
There you go, probably because Fauci said it, I guess, and then Trump didn't wear a mask, and then there you go.
Look, I see this story about Fauci saying we should wear two masks, and I know it's not the same as, you know, shoving stuff up, you know, people's butts, but it really does feel like they're just pushing our buttons to see, like, how long until someone just finally gives up and just, like, snaps, goes crazy.
luke rudkowski
Well, people in Holland, it looks like a lot of them are snapping already, especially with a lot of the civil unrest that's happening there.
There's been a lot of protests all over the world that have not been talked about.
They're not getting a lot of media coverage.
It looks like, you know, the larger algorithms aren't really even interested in them.
But I think, you know, I agree somewhat with your point there, but we have to understand a lot of these so-called medical professionals, a lot of these experts, they were wrong from the very beginning.
Whether it was their projections, whether it was their recommendations, they were flat out wrong and they haven't admitted it.
it. They haven't had any accountability. They haven't faced any repercussions for actions that
did lead to some severe ramifications that they should be held responsible for. And unless that
happens, it's hard to believe them from here. In the beginning, everyone believed them.
tim pool
That's my issue is you've got a lot of people who don't trust the medical professionals and
like the experts on COVID and stuff. Yet when you talk about how Fauci was wrong early on,
they say, well, science is always wrong.
That's the beauty of science.
You can get it wrong and you fix it later.
And I'm like, that's great.
So you're admitting that there's reason for people to doubt the scientists?
Because look, for the most part, I think the only thing a sane person can do is just follow the standard guidance as it is.
It's the best you can do.
There's this movie, I don't know if you guys have ever seen it, called The Man from Earth.
You ever hear of it?
It's about, uh, it's like a one-shot film where they're all in just a room.
And long story short, it's this guy who is immortal.
And he tells all these stories about how he's lived through all these different periods.
And they're like, you must be the smartest guy in the world.
And he's like, why?
I only know what everyone else knows.
I don't, like, know everything.
And a lot of the old information is bad.
And that's the way I see it.
Like, for me, look, if they come out and they say wear a mask, I'll be like, what am I supposed to do?
Pretend like I'm smarter than these actors?
No, I got no problem wearing a mask.
But come on, when you come out and you're like, now wear two masks?
It's like, I'm already wearing a mask, dude.
And besides, what mask are you talking about?
Like, what if I'm wearing like a crazy scarf wrapped around all the way my face where I put something else over it?
It's just a nonsensical statement.
We're already wearing masks, dude.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
You would think they would talk about vitamin D. You would think they would talk about- Well, he did, he did, he did.
tim pool
Fauci's told people to get vitamin D for sure.
luke rudkowski
Okay, that's a big surprise because a lot of government officials, a lot of foreign policy hasn't even addressed that basic factor of health, of sleep, of stress, of diet, of exercise, of going out there, getting proper sun, getting proper vitamin D.
And if he did mention it, there's also a lot of scientists screaming about this from the very beginning, since there are results showing that vitamin deficient people have a horrible time dealing with this.
A lot of people are extremely vitamin deficient, vitamin D deficient, especially with all the lockdowns that have taken their ability of even going outside.
ian crossland
You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna clean my mask.
When was the last time you guys washed your mask?
tim pool
What do you mean washed?
What is that?
ian crossland
Give it some soap.
Rinse it off.
Squeeze it out.
Let it air dry.
What a novel idea.
Time to wash your mask, folks.
tim pool
But that is something people bring up a lot.
I was kidding, by the way.
Yeah, that people keep reusing the same mask and they're getting festering and filthy.
ian crossland
Two times.
tim pool
There are videos of people getting, like, crud on their mouths and stuff.
ian crossland
Dude, wash your mask.
I mean, Fauci, tell people to wash their masks.
tim pool
A lot of people wear disposable ones, to be honest, though.
I guess that's what he's saying, like, wear a disposable one under your permanent one.
ian crossland
Oh, that's specifically what he was saying?
tim pool
I don't know, but it's like a picture of people doing it.
It's just the weirdest thing.
ian crossland
Does he have stock in the mask industry?
lydia smith
Maybe.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
In the Chinese manufacturing plants that produce these goods.
ian crossland
The same masks that protect you from the virus that came out of China?
lydia smith
Yeah, so I'm starting to think that they told us not to wear masks at the beginning so that China could buy all our masks up and we wouldn't be like getting in their way.
And I'm curious why he doesn't, why he's telling people to wear double masks and why he's not telling them to wear like the higher technology masks that might actually protect you from the virus.
luke rudkowski
Or telling people not to fart.
lydia smith
Right.
Exactly.
Keep it together.
tim pool
The joke now is that Fauci's eventually going to tell us all to wrap our... What was it?
Babylon Bee, I think?
Fauci says everyone should wrap themselves in plastic to protect themselves from the virus.
It's like a woman and she's all mashed up and tangled in plastic wrap and can't move.
alexander holladay
I'm glad you said it because I was gonna make that joke.
tim pool
I mean my joke was that, and I think I made this joke a year ago, in like 2030 everyone will be wearing gray jumpsuits with no pockets and they'll have shaved heads and they'll carry nothing on their person.
They'll own nothing and they'll just walk to and from like public transport and work and And then I realized that although that would probably be fairly extreme, it's not extreme enough for where we're headed in terms of critical race theory.
People would have to be, you would have this white box over your body that you held, so no one would know how tall you were.
And you'd have a voice modulator where you would type inside your box and then it would, you'd do a computer voice.
No one would know your gender.
No one would know how tall you are.
Nobody would know your race.
Nobody would know what you sounded like.
And that's the only way to ever actually achieve some kind of equality.
But then you have the problem of some people just being naturally more talented or faster.
What do you do?
And then we get into that.
luke rudkowski
Me Captain.
tim pool
No, no, it's that book.
lydia smith
Harrison Bergeron.
tim pool
Harrison Bergeron.
Yeah, where the beautiful people have to like, what do they do?
lydia smith
They wear terrible makeup or they like wear bags over the heads and the really good people at dancing get weighted down or they get their feet cut off.
tim pool
The smart people have things in their ears that scream random sounds to interrupt their thinking so they can't be smart.
luke rudkowski
Well, they're already starting to cut back on the gifted programs in many public schools all over the United States, which I find kind of crazy to do so.
They're doing it because of equality, but you're preventing people from getting a better education than they normally would.
and you're holding people back because of other people not doing that well.
I mean it just doesn't make any logical sense to me.
tim pool
You're saying you don't believe in equality?
luke rudkowski
No I don't.
tim pool
You're saying that you're a bigot?
luke rudkowski
Uh no I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying a lot of people have gone absolutely mad with this idea that
we're all supposed to be equal.
When you look at nature, I mean, nothing's equal in nature, and it's all about survival of the fittest.
And I think we as humanity will progress once we understand that and open ourselves up to that kind of understanding, which will help us move forward in life more accurately and correctly.
tim pool
This is something that Michael Malice brought up.
He said, how you define the new right is this.
Let me ask you a question, Alex.
Do you think that some people are better than others?
alexander holladay
Yes.
tim pool
That's it.
So he said, the right will tell you yes, and the left will give you an explanation.
Or like, you know, justify or something.
And I just said, my answer was like, simply yes.
But it's an interesting way to define it.
And I see his point.
But I'm like, I'm not going to argue with you.
It's a very simple statement.
Some people are better than others.
Now, if you want to get into specifics, some people are better at basketball than others.
It's very obvious.
But the left views it from a very, like, identitarian view.
Like, when you ask them, are some people better than others, they take it to a racial or gender or, like, you know, inherent identity place.
Whereas my initial reaction was, like, that's a very broad question that could mean a bunch of different things.
Some people are better at printing guns than I am, and some people know a lot more, are better at me than answering gun trivia than I am.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it reminds me, like, when I was little, I would always hear, like, these teenage girls use the word ignorant.
They'd be like, that's so ignorant.
You're so ignorant.
And I'm like, do you know what ignorant means?
It means, like, not understanding or, like, lacking knowledge.
And they're like, no, it means rude.
And I'm like, no, it doesn't.
Like, I understand the concept you think you're using, the context you think you're using it in.
But I was like, everyone is ignorant in some form and they would get all angry about it.
ian crossland
Wasn't it annoying when you were young, how like sometimes popular people would be stupid and they'd say stupid stuff like that.
And you'd be like, uh, have to just deal with it because they were like part of the gang, the popular gang.
tim pool
I mean, they were smart.
They were really dumb, unpopular kids too.
And they were, I don't know, where I grew up, it was kind of a mixed bag.
ian crossland
It's just so frustrating when the people that are like lauded by the crowd are not necessarily the smartest people.
tim pool
What are they lauded by the crowd for?
ian crossland
Because they're beautiful?
Because they're good at sport?
Because they're fast?
I don't know.
tim pool
There you go.
Well, not everybody is smart.
ian crossland
But then they'd say stuff like, ignorance means... But that's the important point about the question.
tim pool
Are some people better than others?
You could be stupid, but strong as an ox.
And then you have like... Right.
ian crossland
Well, some people are better at certain things than others, but those other people might be better at certain things than them.
So to say that some people are better than others is not accurate, I don't think.
unidentified
It is.
ian crossland
No, it's situational.
Like, you might be better at shooting guns, but I might be better at doing math.
So it doesn't mean that you're better than me or I'm better than you.
tim pool
Yes, it does.
ian crossland
We're both better than each other, so it's redundant.
tim pool
This is exactly the point I was just making.
When you ask someone if some people are better than others, I'm not making a judgment on a person's value.
I'm analyzing a very simple statement about whether some people are better than others.
ian crossland
But that doesn't make sense, because if you're better than me at something, and I'm better than you at something, then we're both better than each other.
It cancels... So people are better than each other.
So you couldn't say that I'm better than you, you couldn't say that you're better than me, so the answer would be no.
tim pool
But you can't equate, like, skateboarding with shooting guns or different things.
ian crossland
You could say some people are better at certain things than other people.
tim pool
This is exactly the point.
You're overanalyzing the question.
ian crossland
No, I'm analyzing the question.
tim pool
No, you're overanalyzing it.
unidentified
I'm not.
ian crossland
I'm simply giving you a factual analysis of the question.
tim pool
I think you don't understand Michael Malice's question.
ian crossland
His question is too simplistic.
tim pool
On purpose.
The point is the right will simply say yes, and the left will give you an explanation.
And that's exactly right.
Whereas we view it very simply, you are going into great detail about what quantifies certain things, and that's new right versus new left.
That's exactly his point.
ian crossland
Okay, I don't think I'm on the left, personally.
tim pool
But to Michael Malice's question, you would be.
ian crossland
Thanks, Mike.
tim pool
Well, I guess it would be probably better for Michael to more accurately define, you know, how that works.
But I understand, you know, it's when I ask this of like general lefties, they'll start saying like, well, what do you mean by better?
And like, well, not everybody.
And it's like, OK, there you go.
Like you say no more.
That's the point.
You know, different different worldviews and different like, I guess, as who made this point?
Who was on the show?
Oh, Matt Brainerd.
Inductive reasoning versus deductive reasoning is like, you know, your emotions versus logic, etc.
and things like that.
But how about we derail entirely back to the discussion about... Should we talk about the riots in Holland and the civil war coming to the Netherlands?
ian crossland
Yeah, and tie it in with guns, because Alex is here and I want to know about... Well, they don't have guns.
They don't.
No, but they could.
lydia smith
They sure could.
tim pool
They could.
Well, I don't know if that would be a good thing or not.
I mean, perhaps it's a good thing for individuals to have the ability to defend themselves.
I think in the context that I'm trying to say is when people are out in the streets fighting and, you know, fighting, you know, there's fear of a civil war, maybe we don't want people escalating that point.
The problem is one side already has guns and they're using them.
So, I'm not saying they're using live rounds on the people in the Netherlands, but here's the story.
The Daily Mail says lockdown fury sparks a third night of violence in Holland, with hundreds of protesters looting shops, torching cars, and battling police.
The Netherlands hit by a third night of rioting on Monday, with clashes in Rotterdam, Amsterdam, and The Hague.
Police said 184 people have been arrested by Tuesday morning and promised more arrests would be made.
Hundreds of rioters had looted shops, set fires and clashed with police who responded with water cannons.
It comes after the Netherlands introduced a coronavirus curfew from 9pm until 4.30am to bring cases down.
Now, I believe it was the mayor of Eindhoven who said that we are on the verge of civil war.
And I think it's actually... Is it up here?
I don't know.
They change their articles so much.
Here we go.
Rioters first struck on Sunday night in Amsterdam.
Eindhoven... What did I call it?
Eindhoven?
Eindhoven and multiple other towns seeming to catch authorities off guard and prompting warnings from some politicians of civil war.
John Joritsma, mayor of Eindhoven, warned bluntly that we are on our way to civil war.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They say, despite the unrest, many countries in Europe are considering tightening their lockdowns.
This is an impossible conversation, an impossible discussion, to be completely honest.
People often ask, like, where's the line in government intrusion until you say enough and then demand a regis of grievances to the point where there's clashes, right?
Because I tell you, in China, they're shoving swabs up people's butts.
At a certain point, the line has been breached, right?
But for now, it is a fact that in this country, the line can never be crossed.
There's no line.
There's no point.
There's like, you can have a bunch of people who have no plan thinking they're gonna occupy a building, and that's the revolution?
It's not.
But there's, I think we're at a point where there's a global security infrastructure that's not going to allow for that to happen.
So it could all break down at some point when people just lose it, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Well, in the Netherlands, this is the third night of widespread rioting and violence that even some local politicians are saying will continue for days or weeks.
They burned down many testing facilities.
They're fighting police officers in the street and this is predominantly over the lockdown restrictions and specifically this curfew because a lot of people are saying, what, does the coronavirus not infect you under a certain time?
Does the coronavirus have a bedtime?
And there have even been studies showing that curfews are absolutely pointless and they do nothing except hinder Daily life and allow the police to have an excuse to take away your liberties or your money away from you Alex you had something to say?
alexander holladay
No?
It's complicated, because we can go deep in the philosophical discussion on when you lose your national sovereignty, and you start having the civil war sort of clashes and armed resistance, and what happens when one side of that, when the side of that argument, where the people who don't think that their government has the authority to rule over them anymore, You know, what happens when that group doesn't have any quality of arms with their, for lack of a better term, their masters?
So, I mean, there's a real philosophical argument to get into, and you see a lot of it through Portland, through the Antifa riots, a little bit of it popped up in D.C.
unidentified
I don't know, it's... You know what I think?
tim pool
The armament of the people changes the threshold for when those people will react violently.
And so, you look at somewhere like China, and the state is a massive security state with censorship, control of all weapons, the likelihood of an uprising is slim to none.
Because the odds are so much against the people.
There's concentration camps in China right now.
In the US, it's a bit more precarious because you have to think about the amount of pressure on an individual to make them act and the capability they have to actually accomplish something.
In a place like China or in Europe, the ability to accomplish something when you have an armed state versus an unarmed populace is slim unless you have critical mass.
So the line at which it becomes a civil war, like this Dutch mayor is saying, is further away than it is in the United States.
In the United States, you can get one crazy guy with powerful weapons who feels he can actually do something.
That's scary to me, it is.
Because we want stability, we don't want instability.
We're not currently dealing with people getting anally swabbed, but we do have the curtailing of our freedoms.
I think the question is for the U.S.
Even with the curtailing of our freedoms, we're still pretty much living in luxury relative to other places.
luke rudkowski
But also, against that kind of sentiment that you said, In Europe, all you need is a truck.
And there have been incidences where there have been deadly events that have been far more impactful than shootings in the United States because of some crazy person saying, I'm just going to run a whole bunch of people over with a truck.
So, you know, that's another sentiment here that we need to understand.
tim pool
But what I mean is, if you, like if in the U.S.
they started doing mandatory anal swabbing, I imagine things would break down really fast.
luke rudkowski
A lot of social justice warriors would probably like that.
tim pool
Yeah, so maybe, sure, if you want to make the argument that maybe in cities things would just go along, like we've seen what's going on with New York.
They just go for it.
But think about that.
The cities are unarmed.
For the most part, people in the cities are completely unarmed and would just go with whatever they're told.
I mean, just look at the militias in this country and the groups that are armed.
They tend not to be living in cities.
So either they're moving out for more freedom or they're more self-reliant and more, you know, don't tread on me
You look at places like the Netherlands. The point I'm trying to make is
You require very few people and much less rage and oppression among for an armed population to rise up and say
enough Whereas in the Netherlands, you're gonna have people who
are like, what am I gonna do about it?
I can't do anything.
I'm on my own.
But eventually when you get thousands of people in the street, that's when things, when that line is crossed.
So you need more people and more oppression for an unarmed population to finally snap and revolt.
Which I think is a very simple equation.
It explains why governments don't want people to have guns, especially Democrats don't want people to have guns.
Which is why I think, you know, what you're, you know, doing, uh, uh, Alex's, It's going to be interesting.
I guess the way people say it is the cat's out of the bag.
Gun control is over.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
Can't, can't do much.
Sorry, I hit the table.
Can't do much about it.
It's, it's, you know, people and the, the, the kicker is people have been making guns in their homes for the last hundred years before the advent of 3d printing.
luke rudkowski
Now what's the laws with that?
Because I know some people don't really know how clear it is, what they can do, what can't they do illegally.
alexander holladay
Right, so on the federal level, it is entirely legal if you are federally able to possess a gun.
So you're not a felon, you're not a domestic abuser.
There are a couple other criteria in there that I'm not on the top of the mind.
tim pool
I think you can't be a drunkard.
alexander holladay
Uh, no, you can't be.
tim pool
I don't know.
When you buy a gun, it asks you, are you a drunkard?
And if you put yes, they say, got it, you can have a gun.
No, for real.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to inform that you have to arrest him for public intoxication.
tim pool
No, it just says, are you a drunkard or habitual drinker?
ian crossland
That must be an old law.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
And I think there's also something.
alexander holladay
Oh, are you addicted to alcohol or any other substances?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Right.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
And I think there's also another section about psychological issues.
Right.
tim pool
Or you can't beat your wife or your husband.
alexander holladay
Right, so there are a couple of criteria that will disbar you from owning a firearm.
But if you're able to own it, then you should be able to make it without any real Hangups.
Mail order parts and straight to your door.
ian crossland
What can't you manufacture locally?
What parts?
alexander holladay
There aren't any at the moment.
tim pool
You can make a full auto?
alexander holladay
You can.
tim pool
You can legally make your own.
alexander holladay
Oh, okay.
No, I see.
Sorry.
I understand what you're saying.
You cannot legally make a machine gun because you cannot legally possess a machine gun.
unidentified
Oh, right.
tim pool
The law actually stops the manufacturing of machine guns.
That's it, right?
You can old grandfathered machine guns, right?
alexander holladay
Right.
So there was a machine gun registry before they were forbidden.
And you can own those.
They're very expensive.
Somewhere in the realm of like $20,000 for one.
tim pool
What if you had like a gun with 30 barrels that fired 30 rounds the exact same time?
alexander holladay
That's volley fire, which is legal under the law.
tim pool
Really?
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, I didn't know that.
It's not such a thing as a dumb question.
alexander holladay
Yeah, there was a revolver that came out recently that has two barrels.
You fire two, I think, 238 specials out of it.
I could be wrong, or 222s.
But with one pull of the trigger, you get two bullets out of two barrels.
luke rudkowski
So only if you want to transfer a firearm, do you have to contact the ATF and get a serial number for that firearm?
Is that correct?
alexander holladay
The jury is out on that one.
luke rudkowski
Because the ATF usually changes its mind more than politicians flip-flop.
And they're all over the place with their definitions, which are very confusing.
Their kind of understandings and their legal arguments are kind of all over the place.
alexander holladay
So to get into the nuts a little bit, Manufacturing exclusively for personal use, not for sale or distribution.
So if you make it with the intent to give it away, you've committed a felony.
If you make it with the intent to sell it, you've committed a felony.
If you make it with the intent to use it solely for yourself, for whatever you are using it for, then you're fine.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So I pulled it up.
I just googled it and it's t-rexsmallarms.com.
Arsenal Firearms AF2011 double barrel pistol in .38 Super.
So it is a handgun with two barrels.
It's $4,000.
5-inch slide, double barrel, semi-automatic, .38 Super caliber.
Fires both barrels with one pull of the trigger.
Now why would you want that?
alexander holladay
Because it looks cool?
tim pool
I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't have it.
alexander holladay
You can flex on your friends with the same gun, but only one barrel.
Look, I'm cooler than you.
tim pool
But I think about the question the left often asks is like, why would anyone need this?
First, I understand the immediate response is, it doesn't matter.
I don't need a reason.
I have a Second Amendment right to own arms.
That I get.
But is there like a real functional or tactical reason to having volley fire or double barrel, you know, one trigger pull, two bullets?
alexander holladay
Well, I mean, you're putting twice the amount of projectile into whatever you're shooting at.
So if you're hunting bear with an AR-15, you're going to want more than one round.
But you really shouldn't be hunting bear with an AR-15.
tim pool
So we talked about this, though.
We talked about full auto is actually bad tactically.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
Tactically?
alexander holladay
Generally speaking, it just wastes a lot of ammo.
In most military-type engagement, you're going to be shooting at an individual target.
There is an argument for it where you're talking about suppressing fire coming from machine guns, but when you start getting into fully-auto out of a 30-round magazine, it's kind of...
Not great?
Like, it's useful for the military.
There's a reason that they have it.
If, you know, you're in a pinch and you just click the button over, you know, fine.
luke rudkowski
Don't they call it spray-and-pray?
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
Spray-and-pray.
ian crossland
I just wanted to do a clarification also.
Nancy Pelosi lately had said that she wanted crewman machine guns on these things.
They're actually called crew-served weapons.
My friend that was in the Army was like, please tell everyone.
tim pool
Well, we just, we just read what Ken Cuccinelli said, you know, and he said crew manned machine guns.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's part of the patriarchy.
tim pool
So, uh, you can't make full auto.
alexander holladay
Right.
tim pool
But that's not, that's full auto.
It's not even a good thing anyway.
So it seems kind of redundant.
alexander holladay
Yeah, I mean, again, there's an argument for it.
You know, if you can control it, then you can be accurate with it.
And that's the training thing, which you need exposure to train with it.
So there are arguments for and against.
ian crossland
Are there guns that will automatically fire when they target the person?
alexander holladay
Uh, you're talking like an automated turret system?
ian crossland
Yeah, like if you turn it and it sees the person or the target or the deer or whatever, then it will fire when it sees it?
alexander holladay
Uh, kind of.
There was a company called Tracking Point.
They made a really fun optic, um...
And I think a later iteration they built it into a full rifle platform where you're hunting and you see the deer and you want to hit it at a specific point to get a good clean kill on it.
And so it would wait until you would pull the trigger and then you would adjust your position so you would line up properly and once it lined up properly it would fire.
It's been years since I've seen this, and I don't know if I'm remembering it exactly, so don't quote me on this.
luke rudkowski
Well, you want to make sure you don't wound a deer because they're going to run away, and they're going to be injured, and they're going to be suffering.
There's a specific place on the deer, I think in the lung-heart area, correct me if I'm wrong, that you have to, if you shoot once, it's It's a pretty good sign that it's going to be a clean kill and the animal's not going to suffer.
tim pool
I read a lot about how certain places have really high crime.
I hear West Virginia has a lot of high crime and a lot of these places outside of cities have high crime.
They say New York has low crime.
And I'm like, why is it then that people in West Virginia, there's like not many police around and then why, like, you know, and people just get along just fine or get by just fine.
And then why is it in New York?
There's like, we're hearing these massive spike in murders and things like this.
alexander holladay
Wasn't some guy just beaten and stripped naked in the street in New York?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I remember.
tim pool
Probably.
There's a video of it?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I've seen stuff like that in real life in New York City growing up.
I've seen crazy things that would spark people's PTSD if I described what I saw growing up.
tim pool
This is from 6 hours ago.
Man seen stripped and beaten in New York City.
Attack was known gang member with lengthy criminal history.
Victim is expected to survive.
The 26-year-old victim was in the area of Canal and Allen around 11.30 a.m.
on Friday when the group of about a dozen men and women jumped him and took his cell phone, pants, undergarments, and shoes.
They then used a sharp object to slice him in the head, hands, and torso.
The victim was taken to a local hospital where he's expected to survive.
On Monday, the police commissioner, Dermot Shea, released a 50-second video of what he called a brazen, broad daylight attack.
The footage shows the man running away from the group as they catch up and begin beating him.
Police sources told the New York Post the victim lives in Brooklyn, and had just returned from Atlanta.
The violent crew had reportedly been staking out the nearby bus stop for the man's arrival.
Police said they fled in several vehicles after the attack.
A law enforcement source confirmed to Fox News that the victim had been linked to the violent Mack Baller-Brims gang.
If the shoe was on the other foot, he'd be part of that gang, the source said.
So it's just gang violence, I guess?
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
This is an interesting thing.
Like, Chicago is an interesting gun conversation.
Chicago's got a bunch of people with illegal guns and they go around shooting each other all the time.
And I think that's what the left uses as an argument for gun control.
Criminals who take the guns and then are causing problems and murdering people all over the place.
I guess for me, I've always kind of wondered...
If the guns are already illegal and they're committing murders with them, why would passing a law stop them from committing a murder which is already illegal?
I mean, like, that's the worst crime!
luke rudkowski
Well, we see a lot of liberals talk about gun homicides, and they keep forgetting that most of them are from illegal guns in jurisdictions that already banned them.
Other gun deaths are because of suicide, and then I think the third highest level of gun death rates are from police officers shooting people.
So, if you're for gun control, you're not really for gun control.
You're for having individuals with guns take away other people's guns at the threat of using guns.
That's essentially what you're for, and you should just be honest about it, that you want people robbed of their ability to defend themselves, while, of course, the politicians want literal machine guns protecting them all the time.
ian crossland
I like the idea of having an armed society.
It's kind of cool because if a group does rise up to overthrow the government with guns, which in Holland they're probably afraid of, you have the rest of the population also armed to protect the country from the overthrow.
tim pool
Civil war?
ian crossland
Well, ideally, I mean, that's possible.
That did happen in the 1800s.
But ideally, it would be a swift justice.
They always say that with war.
tim pool
It wouldn't, man.
I mean, we've got 75 million Trump voters, 80 million Biden voters.
ian crossland
But it's better than, I think, a totalitarian dictatorship.
The threat of civil war is better than a totalitarian dictatorship.
tim pool
The threat of civil war.
It's better to know that there's a possible- like, the idea that a civil war could happen means that the dictatorship is less likely to happen.
luke rudkowski
You always want to reduce harm.
And what usually reduces harm is individuals being able to defend themselves.
Because people then don't take offensive, aggressive actions against them.
They say an armed society is a polite society and I think we're seeing that in places like Florida and places like Texas where people have the ability to protect themselves unlike other jurisdictions like Chicago, New York City, and a lot of the other big cities where you can't and gang violence and Uh, has been skyrocketing because all the gang members know people are defenseless.
People can't defend themselves if they do have a firearm.
tim pool
But now in many places, I think in Chicago, you can have a gun.
But I think it's really difficult.
I grew up there and for the longest time, like, all weapons were just outright banned.
I think the only legal weapon you're allowed to have is a rubber switch.
You know what that is?
It's like a long piece of rubber with a little ball at the end and you whack people with it.
ian crossland
What about a knife?
tim pool
No, knives, that's illegal.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
In Times Square, the biggest arrests that were made were individuals that came in from out of New York who had pocket knives.
The biggest arrests that happened... I forgot the exact statistic here, but I heard a very wild one that the majority of arrests in New York happened because of tourists having guns on their... Oh, right.
ian crossland
I imagine it's like a knife of a certain length.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like longer than three and a half inches or something.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
So that's like a pocket knife.
You get a certain pocket knife.
Or maybe you've got like a utility knife or something you carry around for... Yeah, or nail clippers.
Yeah, yeah, and then they're like, well, that's a crime.
Can't have that.
ian crossland
Um, Alex, do you know how many 3D printed guns are in existence?
Is that even measurable?
alexander holladay
Um, not really.
I mean, I broke 25,000 across socials, so I imagine there's at least 25,000.
unidentified
Um...
alexander holladay
I would surely hope that there are many, many, many times that number, and I believe that there are, but there's no way to count.
Most people are making them in the privacy of their own home, and if they're doing it right, they're not telling anybody.
tim pool
So, we were talking about this last week, I think, about ghost guns, and some people were saying they were illegal, and then a bunch of people were like, no, no, no, they're totally legal.
So, ghost guns are legal, is that correct?
alexander holladay
Yeah, so, a minute ago we were talking about how you can manufacture... Any gun you manufacture at home, for your own personal use, is what politicians are calling a ghost gun.
Like, they're one and the same.
So it's not just 3D printed stuff.
It's not just like the 80% kits that you buy.
It's anything that you're making at home.
tim pool
So how does the 80% kit work?
alexander holladay
So basically, a company went to the ATF and said, hey, is this... Okay, I need a backup.
The ATF regulates one specific part of a firearm, that is, as a firearm.
It's the serialized part.
It's the one part that you actually have to go to an FFL, a gun store, to buy.
And what part is that?
It varies based on the firearm.
On a Glock, it's the polymer frame.
On an AR-15, it's the lower receiver where the trigger and the magazine go into.
Um, so that's the serialized part.
Now, what these 80% companies did is they went to the ATF and they had a partially finished one.
They sent them the lure and said, hey, is this a firearm yet?
And the ATF said no.
So the industry called it an 80% complete firearm.
So it's not quite a firearm.
And you can buy it, it ships straight to your door, and you finish it on basic tools.
There's a couple kits out there, one you do with like a DeWalt router or something, some kind of just common hardware tool, or you can do it with a drill press.
tim pool
But then you still need to buy that last piece.
alexander holladay
Right.
tim pool
Wasn't there something going on where people were saying the ATF was raiding people for having these kits?
alexander holladay
Yeah, so there was one specific kit done by Polymer80 called the Bi-Build Shoot Kit, and they marketed it as everything you need in a box to build a gun in a couple hours.
And you would click it once, and you add to the cart, and they would ship it to your door, and then you'd spend an hour putting it together.
And the ATF said that this box of parts that wasn't a firearm was close enough to the definition of a firearm, and marketed it in such a way that it could be construed as a firearm, that it was actually a firearm.
Which doesn't make any sense from a legal perspective.
But this is the ETF we're talking about.
They, you know, fairy dust and magic.
tim pool
So in terms of 3D printed guns, you're printing what like the frame, the grip, the stock or what?
alexander holladay
Yeah, basically any external part that has complex geometry, so things that are going to be difficult to make by hand.
And then, looking specifically at the FGC-9, the barrel and the bolt are made at home, out of common material.
And again, the barrel, we're finishing it with basically 3D printable inserts, and we're using electrochemical machining to get the internal dimensions of the barrel to the right size
and rifle it and cut the chamber.
And it sounds really complicated. It does. I was like, what?
Yeah, I know that shot really high for a lot of people, but there's a good write up on... Whoa.
tim pool
It was autoplaying a video about the FTC9.
Continue, continue.
alexander holladay
Anyway, a lot of that went over a lot of people's heads.
There's a really good write-up.
It sounds really complicated.
It's not.
It's saltwater in an aquarium pump in a five-gallon bucket in your garage.
luke rudkowski
So, in total, how much do you have to spend on supplies, materials, and everything you need to make a FGC-9?
alexander holladay
The hardware to get started, the printer itself, $200.
Filament, $40.
The parts to build the actual gun, your internals, about another $200.
And then your benchtop power supply and your aquarium pump to do the electrochemical machining is like another $100 on top of that.
ian crossland
So when you say electrochemical machining, you have salt water in a tank.
How does that work exactly?
alexander holladay
So you're pumping water out of a bucket, salt water out of a bucket, through the inside of the barrel.
And you've got an electrode in the barrel that's stripping material at the atomic level off of the inside of the barrel to bore it to the right size for your bullet and then cut rifling and then cut in your chamber.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That sounds really hard to do.
It's not awesome.
luke rudkowski
Someone gave us a super chat a couple days ago.
They're like, no, it's so easy.
You could just print out an FGC9.
And I looked at it.
I was like, this looks hard.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
It looks hard.
It's super easy.
tim pool
What caliber is the FGC-9?
alexander holladay
It's a 9mm.
luke rudkowski
Is that where the 9 comes from?
alexander holladay
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
And then the FGC means something else.
alexander holladay
Yeah, F Gun Control.
ian crossland
Are there other printers than the Ender, like next level, above the Ender-5?
alexander holladay
There are.
You start to lose the value per dollar that you're spending.
So you can get into like a $3,000 or $4,000 printer pretty quickly.
ian crossland
What would be the value of that?
alexander holladay
I mean, you're doing the same thing you're doing on the Ender 5.
Does it print?
About the same quality.
You might get an upgrade in materials.
You might be able to print with some fancy nylons and stuff like that.
Some higher temperature stuff.
But, I mean, for the price difference.
ian crossland
What about metal?
Do you print metal?
alexander holladay
No, so metal is a whole nother, uh, um, uh, manufacturing process and it's a lot more to get into.
So, um, there, there's a couple of different methods of doing the most popular, the cheapest one.
And I'll start at, this is $50,000 that you're spending to get in here.
ian crossland
Wow.
alexander holladay
It's a laser that melts a layer of powder and then, uh, the printer scoops another layer on top of it.
It does another layer of melting.
tim pool
It's really fast though, right?
alexander holladay
No, it goes really slow.
Yeah, it's pretty slow.
Um, and then once all that's done, you have to take that part, you have to send it to another company to do the final, like, actually make it a solid part, because it's a bunch of particles that are stuck together.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It's got to go in like a kiln or something.
alexander holladay
Right.
tim pool
Like where it heats and solidifies or something like that.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
And then you have to add material, physically add additional material to it.
So it becomes a lot more expensive, a lot more costly.
There's applications for it, but not for like the home gunsmith.
I'm going to do this in my garage for the cheap.
Yeah.
Um, like there are, there are filaments that have metal embedded in them, but they have the same problem where it's just a bunch of medical metal particles that are just stuck together.
And then you have to send it to another company to finish it.
tim pool
I got, I gotta be honest, man.
You say it sounds easy, but I'm like looking at these websites and it's just, there's hurdles to, you know, the average person can't just do this.
alexander holladay
Yeah, everything is a learning curve, but we've tried to make it really, really simple.
So in order to get started, I'm going to plug my site, go to theguide.controlpew.com.
That'll get you your first 10 steps into 3D printing.
You're not 3D printing guns yet.
You're just 3D printing.
You're just learning how to use the printer, how to use the software, how to get it dialed in so it actually functions and things fit together properly.
And then the next step, Right?
Find a gun you want to print.
Print it.
ian crossland
And Ctrl-Pew is C-T-R-L-P-E-W.
alexander holladay
C-T-R-L-P-E-W.
That's theguy.ctrlpew.com.
luke rudkowski
And just to clarify, having and making your own FGC9 is legal federally?
Is that correct?
alexander holladay
Yeah, federally it's legal.
State laws may vary.
I know Maryland has some funny business going on.
I know California has funny business going on.
I know New York has funny business going on.
luke rudkowski
Well, California and Maryland banned flamethrowers.
They're the two states, and I know this because I own a flamethrower, they banned flamethrowers, which is just utterly ridiculous and so un-American.
alexander holladay
I'm sorry, I thought this was America.
tim pool
People are getting in trouble with the Elon Musk flamethrowers.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
Because people are buying them and it's called not a flamethrower by the boring company and then people are getting the feds turn up their door being like that's a flamethrower!
alexander holladay
The funny business is that's actually a weed burner.
It's not a flamethrower.
It just has a little bit of flame that sits in the end.
It doesn't throw the flame anywhere and it's really depressing and I'm really sad about it.
luke rudkowski
Now importantly, making your own 3D printed firearm like the FGC9, is there any legislation against doing this locally, statewide?
Is there anything against 3D printing on the books now?
Because I've seen individuals like Chuck Schumer who literally Explain the black, what was it, the Silk Road in such a way
where it promoted it on national television a few years ago, now talking about the ease of 3D
printing firearms. There's a lot of misunderstanding, but is there any legislation proposed or
on the books now against 3D printing, federally, state or local? Not at the federal level. At the
alexander holladay
state level, like I said, California, Maryland, New York, I think there is some legislation that
exists.
Although, how far you get with that, I don't know.
There's a couple people.
Reno is a YouTuber from California.
He's working on a 3D printed California compliant Glock and AR-15.
So, there are some specifics to work within those sets of laws, but...
I'm not as well-read on the individual states to be able to answer that with any level of competence.
luke rudkowski
Well, you know, even traveling with firearms, you learn about so many of the jurisdictions, reciprocities, and you literally need to hire a lawyer to explain it to you because of the different made-up laws that each politician interprets in their own unique ways, which is, again, not universal and very confusing and leads a lot of people in trouble.
alexander holladay
I'm so, I'm so disappointed because I tried for like, I sat for like three, four hours.
I dug through the law to come out here with my trunk of fun.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
alexander holladay
And just show you guys what we're working with.
And I couldn't do it because I just couldn't figure out how to navigate the whole thing properly.
And I was like, okay, I can't, I can't even begin.
ian crossland
Have you, in your time, 3d printing and experimenting, have you ever figured out new shapes to build weapons or guns with that make them more effective?
alexander holladay
I mean, a little bit.
So we've done a lot of modifications on the AR-15 to make it a lot more robust.
There's a version now that has an additional bracket on the side of it to hold the buffer tower, to add some extra support to the buffer tower, so that it doesn't break off when you're shooting.
Which was a problem that we had with the early 2015-2016 versions of the AR-15 lore.
So, I mean, we've come along, we've evolved in a lot of different firearms.
So, like, when you're talking about specific shapes, not really, but it all varies based on the forces applied to each firearm, because they all act a little bit differently.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm thinking, like, to print, like, little hooks on the side where you could stick extra cartridges and then to hold... Oh, okay.
alexander holladay
Yeah, no, that stuff, there's a lot of that, actually.
Thingiverse doesn't allow you to do gun stuff, but there's a lot of gun stuff on Thingiverse.
It's fantastic.
So, yeah.
tim pool
Weird stuff on Thingiverse, too.
alexander holladay
Well, there is that.
ian crossland
A lot of weird stuff, is that what you're saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They got weird stuff on Thingiverse.
ian crossland
Oh, that's awesome.
The future is now.
It's unstoppable.
They're gonna make 3D printers that can print 3D printers.
It's just around the corner.
alexander holladay
So, funny story, 2012, the RepRap project, which started the whole 3D printer business and the commercial home use, They were designed to have a bunch of 3D printed parts, and then have a bunch of common off-the-shelf parts, where you just printed the stuff you need, or you had someone else print it for you, and then you assembled your printer, and you could print another set and give them to someone else, and they could build their printer.
So cool.
So that was the origin of this whole thing, which is another reason why the whole 3D printing thing itself can never really be stopped, because the origin of everything is open source.
It's all out there, it's all public domain.
tim pool
They could put some kind of tax on 3D printers, where you have to get a stamp, and then only one office in the country issues the stamps, and they're swamped, and people can only get one, like, every six months, like they do with many things to get around the law, you know what I mean?
alexander holladay
Right, but prove that I bought the printer to, you know, you know what I mean?
Well, I mean, like, you know what we've seen- You gotta catch him first.
tim pool
What we've seen with a lot of regulations the government does when they can't ban something is they put regulatory hurdles in front of it that are so severe, people eventually just stop doing it.
ian crossland
I have a feeling that in the future they'll be trying to ban the information, like the actual CAD files of the data.
So when electricity becomes free, like once we tap fusion and we're in ignition, it's gonna be the information that's the currency of the world.
tim pool
It was funny.
I was watching Star Trek earlier, and I'm just thinking about this now, like, what if, like, could you imagine someone walking up to a replicator and being like, computer!
Glock 9mm, you know, Glock 17.
It's not loaded.
Give me 50 rounds.
It just appears, and then people have guns.
unidentified
Right?
alexander holladay
Wouldn't that be great?
luke rudkowski
Well, isn't the data market more valuable than the oil market in the world already?
ian crossland
That wouldn't surprise me.
luke rudkowski
So, I mean, when we're looking at the advancements of technology, it goes both ways.
It provides people a lot of opportunity, but it also has an opportunity to take away a lot of the freedoms and liberties that we take advantage of.
So it's going to be interesting because when you look at 3D printers and trying to band them, I mean, essentially, when you boil it down, it's somewhat of a simple technology of just making plastic hot and then moving around a machine.
So it uses that heat and that, you know, melted plastic to shape something in a different form.
So, I mean, it's going to be very hard to ban 3D printers, but it's something that, as you said, could happen and could be regulated in a way where it's impossible to get.
tim pool
For the FGC-9, could you just buy, like, standard parts for other guns?
Is that legal?
Like, if you bought a barrel or certain parts that you needed?
alexander holladay
Yeah, so there are a couple mods that exist already.
One to make it take Glock barrels.
Another one to... By default it takes an AR-15 fire control group.
Funny story.
That AR-15 fire control group is also like a one-to-one copy of one that you can get out of an airsoft gun.
Really?
On AliExpress, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
But so that becomes extremely easy then.
Like, what's the regulatory issue then?
Do you still have to get serialized?
Do you have to get it registered or anything like that?
alexander holladay
No, so if you're building it for personal use, there is no serial number, no registration, nothing.
It just exists and it's yours, and now you have a gun.
tim pool
So you can buy the metal parts you need.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then 3D print the rest, put it together, and you're good to go.
alexander holladay
Yep.
tim pool
That's crazy.
ian crossland
Do you ever use resin printing?
alexander holladay
I've started messing with some of it.
The biggest problem with resin printing is it's structurally weaker than FDM printing or the plastic printing.
So the part you get isn't as strong, so it breaks sooner.
So I've seen a couple people try and do Glock frames in their resin printers.
And they don't end well.
No injury to the user, but they just break.
tim pool
So we were talking about how the Liberator, I remember when it was first being developed, it would get off like one or a few rounds and then just break itself.
But that was no metal parts, right?
alexander holladay
Right.
Well, it took a common nail, yeah.
tim pool
A common nail.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
And would that would just be a one-off or what?
alexander holladay
Well, okay, so you can get more than one round out of the Liberator.
The video that's been that's commonly cited is one from like the Queensland police who printed a really crappy version of it.
They didn't follow the instructions.
And this is critical.
Follow the readme.
There's a readme in every package.
Everything comes out.
It's got the instructions.
Follow them.
But they didn't follow the readme, so their print was junk and it blew up.
tim pool
But did it actually fire though?
alexander holladay
Yeah, it did fire the one round.
It also blew up.
Did it get hurt?
No, they had it on a stand.
But I know Cody in his 2013 video fired three or four rounds through his on video, on camera, in succession.
So, I mean...
tim pool
You just put a nail in it.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
That's amazing.
luke rudkowski
What do you think about the new Biden kind of proposals for gun control?
Have you looked into them at all?
alexander holladay
I mean, I've tried, but they are not very coherent and don't really apply to a lot.
It sounds like a universal ban on all things.
luke rudkowski
Pew pew.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
And.
OK, enforce it.
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I mean, I think they will.
Law-abiding citizens obey the law.
ian crossland
Can't enforce it, that's the problem.
With the amount of guns that are being printed, there's just not that big of an issue.
alexander holladay
Looking at this last year alone, just with the reported background checks, there's something like three... Ten million new shooters?
I feel like we're butting up against four million background checks.
Now, a lot of those background checks have more than one gun, and not all of those background checks actually complete or end in a sale, but Four million is a lot.
tim pool
I think it's way more than that, actually.
I feel like it would be, too, and I'm ballparking numbers, so... Well, so, I think the guy from Federal Ammo put out a video about the ammo shortage and said that we're looking at seven million new shooters.
alexander holladay
Oh, geez.
tim pool
So that means background checks has to be over seven million.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because some people buy more than one gun.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
So a lot of yeah well actually no it's not fair because some people are buying some people are already gun owners and are buying guns so maybe you're right maybe it is four million so the the data that comes up when i just oh no no wait i'm sorry it would have to be more than seven yeah regardless of your first time shooter or not yeah the data that comes up that when i just searched for this is that nearly five million new gun owners have joined the 100 million plus gun owners already in the united states in 2020 according to recent estimates for the from the national shooting sports foundation So, some of the data also shows that 40% of all firearm sales are going through first-time buyers.
So, of course, there's a lot of people.
I mean, I've saw this.
I started doing, you know, trainings with my Special Forces Green Beret friends in New Hampshire teaching people who are first-time gun owners how to properly use, how to properly clean, use their firearms this summer because there was a demand for it and there was a shortage of professionals willing to train people how to even safely use and operate a firearm.
tim pool
Let's segue into this next story.
From Newsweek, fact check.
Did Missouri shop say no guns and ammo for Biden supporters?
Guess what?
Fact check true.
It actually happened.
They say, President Joe Biden preached that the country requires unity to overcome its challenges in his inaugural address last week, as it remains divided.
I love him.
Capitol riots earlier this month, blah, blah, blah.
In Missouri, depending on the presidential candidate you've won voted for, some local
residents might not be able to obtain guns or ammunition at one store.
Austin Peterson tweeted, my local gun shop announced last night, they do not have any
guns or ammunition available for Biden supporters.
The comment section of howling leftists is delicious like hot apple pie with ice cream.
Let's keep it going.
I love him.
Is it the claim?
A user from the social media forum Gab posted a screenshot of an article from the Gateway Pundit, an online political news blog that says, we report the truth and leave the Russia collusion fairytale to the conspiracy media.
With the headline, Missouri gun shop announces they don't have guns or ammos for Biden supporters.
They have the actual post from Facebook here.
It's true.
Trigger firearms and reloading LLC based in Jefferson City, Missouri.
Recently posted to its Facebook business page.
We don't have guns or ammo for Biden supporters.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
The company that lists itself as a gun store on the platform has received more than 3,000 interactions and more than 1,000 shares on the post with mixed reactions from users in the comment thread.
Reached by phone, Trigger Firearms and Reloading LLC hung up on Newsweek's request for comment about the Facebook post, declining to respond.
Gee, you think?
Facebook user Terry Plotner wrote, private company so they can do what they want.
In a comment responding to the gun shops post and apparent support.
The ruling true!
They did say this.
They will not sell guns or ammo.
So what does that mean?
Like you walk in and they're like, who'd you vote for?
And you're like, I voted for Joe Biden!
Get out.
Who's gonna admit that in a gun shop?
luke rudkowski
I don't think they're going to admit it.
I don't think they're going to be asking, but this is great PR to bring attention to their gun store.
I know a gun store in New Hampshire that literally had Joe Biden as the salesman of the month a few weeks ago.
And that brought in a whole bunch of attention and a lot of people angry and a lot of people pissed off.
And he's like, I love it.
Give me all the attention.
The guy was also a fan of We Are Changed, which is awkward walking in there.
And it's like, oh, of course.
tim pool
Where are the people going to banks asking for multi-million dollar investment to start primer companies or powder companies because of the shortage of all this ammo?
Like, now's the opportunity to get on the ground floor.
ian crossland
In fact, can you 3D print ammo?
alexander holladay
Oh, we're getting there.
So, we've got a couple of people working on it.
Developments are coming.
We've got projectiles, we've got casings.
We're working on... we've got half the chemistry.
We're working on more.
3D printed projectile.
So, we're 3D printing molds that will let you cast projectiles in any caliber and diameter you want.
Because in many places in the world, you can't buy the molds.
ian crossland
But it's incredible.
tim pool
Let me ask you.
Would you provide all of your schematics to Biden's voters?
alexander holladay
Sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
alexander holladay
I don't care.
Yeah.
They're going on the internet for free.
tim pool
Yeah.
alexander holladay
Anyone can download them.
ian crossland
Yep.
alexander holladay
Go nuts.
tim pool
Everyone will have them if they want them.
I guess that's the point, you know?
It's freedom.
You as an individual have the ability and the technology, you can do it.
You know, I was thinking about why these liberals, these Biden supporters, are so concerned.
Well, first of all, let me say, they're willing to support a man who says he's going to outright ban all gun sales and accessory sales online.
Did he want to ban ammo too?
Online sales of ammo?
alexander holladay
Yeah, I do recall.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, he wrote a lot of vague, generalized language about not allowing people to buy a firearm within a certain amount of period, close to another purchase of a firearm.
He talked about banning online sales of anything gun related.
tim pool
How could you vote for him and then actually go and expect to buy a gun?
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's a weird question outright.
Like, how many people are actually going to this gun shop and saying they're Biden supporters who want to buy guns?
I guess they exist, but it's like, all right, I'll tell you what, you give, no, you have to give it to me.
Like, it's being confiscated.
You don't, you don't.
luke rudkowski
And it's interesting that this is, oh, you got a stink bug in there.
It's interesting that this is happening in Missouri, because in Missouri, this is also where the McCloskey case happened.
I'm still trying to look up the latest information about what's happening with them, but they're the couple that walked out with firearms with very poor trigger discipline and very point, very poor aim discipline.
Uh, when a BLM, uh, you know, pretty much protest broke down the fence of their door and, uh, you know, they say threatened them.
So I'm still trying to find out exactly what's going on.
ian crossland
What should they have done?
Like had their guns pointed down at the ground?
luke rudkowski
Well, when you see, I think it was Patricia McCloskey, she literally had her finger on the trigger and she was moving the gun around in a place where it was rightly behind her husband's head.
You're not supposed to do that.
That's not smart.
alexander holladay
That's not smart.
I feel like everything else was appropriate given the information that I have.
Like it was a violent crowd and they're confronting you on your property.
So I feel like that's okay to point a gun at them with your finger on the trigger and be like, I'm actually going to shoot you if you keep coming at me.
tim pool
They were on his property in a castle doctrine state.
Right, so it's like, in some states, you can shoot someone before they even get on your property.
In order to prevent someone entering your property, some states allow you to shoot somebody.
ian crossland
Wow, that's hardcore.
tim pool
Yeah, and so there's like, I don't know the full details, but some states, like New Jersey, I think New Jersey has duty to retreat, meaning you're in your home in the middle of the night, and you're allowed to own a gun, and then someone breaks in.
If you can flee your home, you must.
But it's really funny, because I was talking to even a cop about this, and he laughed, and he was like, where are you gonna go?
It's your house!
unidentified
Where do you go?
tim pool
It makes no sense.
And I was like, yeah.
And then in other states, they have castle doctrine with no duty to retreat, but a duty to enter your home.
So like, let's say you live in, you know, Maryland, and you're on your front lawn or something, and you see someone coming towards you, you have to go into your house first.
Then if they try breaking in, you can defend your home.
In places I think like West Virginia, I'm pretty sure West Virginia is like, you see them on your property, you can shoot them.
luke rudkowski
In New York City, you defend yourself, you hurt the perp, you go to jail for the crime of hurting the perp.
So I know many instances and cases where people had violence brought upon them, they defended themselves, and because they left a mark on the attacker, the aggressor, they went to jail.
ian crossland
Really?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
You're supposed to do no harm?
There's even stories in the United States where people were violently attacked, fought back, and with extreme cases of people trying to kill another person, that person defended themselves and they went to jail.
There's a number of cases.
It all depends on the jurisdictions and it all depends on who the attorney general is.
And this is why we've seen individuals like George Soros literally bankroll attorney generals all throughout the country that, of course, will play favorable into the agenda, into the narratives that they want to push.
tim pool
The moral of the story is simple.
Don't live in blue states or blue cities.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
You have to go somewhere where you're allowed to be reasonable.
alexander holladay
Defend yourself.
And when you do go, leave all of those policies there.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
That's amazing.
You see this story earlier about a guy from California who moved to Texas.
And then was like really upset and angry.
It was not a conservative utopia.
And it was like monoculture.
He just didn't like it so he leaves.
And it's like... You know what, man?
That's a good story.
You know why?
He left.
He didn't like it, he left.
It's remarkable because we have so many people now fleeing these big cities and going to these red areas where...
I can understand why the store is basically saying no Biden supporters can buy guns, because you've got Democrats from big cities moving to red areas, bringing those policies with them, and then they want to buy guns and then get them banned later.
What's the point?
Like, create grandfathered-in guns that only you can sell, like full-auto, you know?
What do they cost, like $20,000 for a belt-fed full-auto machine gun?
alexander holladay
Yeah, belt-fed, you're gonna get way up in there.
tim pool
Because it's grandfathered in, the only way to own it is if it's an existing... Right, there's a finite number, a lot of people want them.
So maybe that's the plan.
Maybe it's a bunch of rich people being like, if we get guns banned, then only we have the guns and we'll be worth a million bucks!
There you go.
lydia smith
That's a racket.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the guy who moved to Texas and then back, I mean, one of the top reasons he left is because the weather was oppressive.
that uh that there was no public land that there was no snowy mountains that that people in austin were rude but uh you know you went to austin austin's yeah the liberal yeah yeah yeah they have a liberal mayor there who goes to uh vacation in the caribbean islands while telling everyone to stay home and not travel because of covid uh just like most democratic politicians who don't follow the law but i mean this guy sparked an interesting discussion but i do believe media organizations like the daily mail went too far they kind of doxxed him they released public information about his house where he lived his family photos and i'm like this is too far this is i mean people are enjoying calling him the new karen and dunking on him but but for me it was his old house
Yeah.
tim pool
He didn't live there anymore.
luke rudkowski
Well, I don't know.
They're showing his house in San Diego and his house in Texas that he had.
tim pool
Yeah, he doesn't live at either of those.
luke rudkowski
It's still a lot of personal information that's not really needed there.
tim pool
And a lot of people are ragging on the guy, and I'm like, but he did the right thing.
He moved there, hated it, and left.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
unidentified
There you go!
luke rudkowski
If you don't like it, you move.
That's fine, and we shouldn't be criticizing him.
He does spark an interesting conversation, which I think we all should have, and that should be it.
tim pool
You know what I think ultimately the biggest problem is?
It's that conservatives who live in conservative areas understand what city life is like to a certain degree, and don't care for what people do in cities.
But people who live in cities have no idea what rural life is like, and want everyone to live under the rules of a city.
Like, so I talked about it before.
If you live in Manhattan, even, I think Luke accidentally came out in support of gun regulation when I said, what happens if you live in New York City and you've got a 556 and someone breaks into your cubicle apartment?
And you said, maybe don't allow certain calibers.
luke rudkowski
Well, maybe some individuals, we had this argument.
I'm like, Tim, you should get a shotgun.
I don't know.
My walls in my RV are kind of thin there.
tim pool
Well, so the point is I'll ask you Alex in New York for instance, I understand the right to bear arms Especially to defend yourself if you live in one of these cubicle loft apartments where you got 30 people surrounding your your you know 10 by 10 cube it smells like sour milk and someone breaks into your apartment a certain you know a certain bullets gonna go through walls and potentially hit other people and that could create a huge risk and Yeah, so all bullets are going to go through walls.
alexander holladay
Like there is no bullet small enough that it's going to stop and drywall.
tim pool
Even like a, what a hollow point 22?
Yeah.
alexander holladay
Yeah, it would go it would go through but I mean like but just just assume that it's going to because this is this is
sort of the danger you get into with gun ownership of You're responsible for wherever that bullet goes period
So if it goes through who you shot into the 12 year old and two apartments down
Well that you know, you may have shot the guy Yes
But the consequence of that, you know was you've you've created an unacceptable consequence of that
You killed a 12 year you shot a 12 year old. So I mean this is something that a gun owner needs to be conscious of
This is something that you get through exposure to firearms in general, is you develop this knowledge over time.
tim pool
Man, could you imagine living in New York City and there being a gun shop in Times Square where they're selling like a .308 and you can just buy it?
luke rudkowski
Well, to also clarify, you know, I'm not for the regulations.
But there is a particular gun culture that needs to be talked about, because when we went out to the range, we met a lot of random individuals in the middle of the woods, away from all the roads, and they were all courteous, they all looked you in your eye, they all talked to you, they all treated you with respect.
There was no attitude, there was no, you know, crap thrown your way.
There is a particular gun culture that takes safety very seriously, that makes sure that you don't point your muzzle at people, regardless of whether the gun is loaded or not loaded.
tim pool
Yes, but Luke, it's not about gun culture, it's about regular people.
Remember you made that video about being on the subway with all those people everywhere?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
So Luke made this video a long time ago about being on the subway with millions of people.
luke rudkowski
Just keep going, you got nothing else to lose.
tim pool
And they never talk to each other.
But how often, like we see videos of attacks, they happen.
But how often does the average person walk through New York, walking past all these people, and no one just randomly starts beating you or stabbing you?
ian crossland
Same way with driving, you never really veer the car over and ram into someone, you know?
tim pool
You know, when I was 16, and like, well actually I got my license when I was 18, but when I was like first starting to learn how to drive, I was shocked when I realized that cars don't frequently bump into each other.
I was like, how's that possible?
You gotta park.
Cars gotta bump into each other.
It's like, well, sometimes when you're parallel parking, you might bump somebody.
But for the most part, millions upon millions of cars every day drive within inches of each other and never touch.
luke rudkowski
And I was like, Especially taxi drivers.
They drive like crazy.
I don't even want to say it.
tim pool
Think about that.
When we went to the range and there were some other dudes there setting up targets and they had a bunch of guns too, I have no fear or no concern about them shooting me or anybody else because I don't regularly get attacked by random people.
Especially when you're at a range where people are going there for a purpose.
People who live in cities are paranoid and terrified that someone's gonna... You know what it is?
Maybe because there's too many nasty people who work in these offices or who are on Twitter, and they know that they're bad people, and they're just worried about someone coming to their office and, you know, going postal or something.
ian crossland
Yeah, desperation can breed violence, obviously, and in cities sometimes you have poverty and hunger, but trust is like such an integral part of being human.
You know, we got to where we are as a socially constructed species by trusting each other.
luke rudkowski
And also, I think people, when they decide to purchase a firearm, they understand that they're taking a very serious responsibility, that it comes with a lot of training, a lot of educating, and a huge, huge, you know, patience towards trying to understand the huge ramifications, and I think majority of people do that.
tim pool
I thought the first thing everybody did when they bought guns was to go out in the parking lot like Yosemite Sam and just start firing wildly into the air.
lydia smith
Woo-hoo!
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
With, uh, some revolvers!
What kind of gun do you think Yosemite Sam was using?
Is that like a .45 ACP?
Um... .45 Long Colt.
alexander holladay
I would say it's a .44 Magnum.
tim pool
I'm thinking about, like, the stereotype of the character is what kind of bullet they used back then.
alexander holladay
Oh, okay, hold on.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I'm sure someone in the super chat will correct me.
alexander holladay
Speaking of corrections, I do want to go back.
We were talking about Nick's earlier, Nick's background checks.
So the 2020 annual total was $21.1 million.
luke rudkowski
Background checks.
alexander holladay
So again, not all background checks result in a sale, and not all background checks are one-to-one with firearms.
And not all states require background checks to buy a firearm.
tim pool
Wait, really?
alexander holladay
Yeah, so if you have a permit, like in Iowa, I have a carry permit in Iowa, I don't have to do a background check.
tim pool
A concealed carry?
alexander holladay
In Iowa, it's just a carry.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
alexander holladay
I think.
ian crossland
And then if one person buys 20 guns, they only need to do one background check?
tim pool
Not if you have a permit.
You just walk in and you go, I'll take that, that, that, that.
ian crossland
It all depends on the state.
tim pool
But to clarify, the permit is a background check.
alexander holladay
Yes.
You had to get one to get the permit.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
alexander holladay
But that was just one.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's weird that, you know, so during the March for Our Lives protest, I went down there in a good faith attempt at talking to people.
I can't tell you how many people were holding up signs saying, ban assault rifles.
And so I would talk to them and be like, I just want to ask you about your sign.
And they'd be like, yeah, what about it?
And I'd be like, well, assault rifles are illegal and they've always been.
And I'm wondering if you were aware or what your goal is with the sign.
And they would go, oh, and like one lady like folded it up and she's like, I didn't know.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
ian crossland
What's an assault?
I mean, it's kind of a vague, a redundant question.
tim pool
No, assault rifle is the definition.
ian crossland
How would you define an assault rifle?
alexander holladay
Well, it's not really defined.
tim pool
Well, assault rifle is selective fire rifle.
alexander holladay
Yes, and no cuz that's that's in the legal definition.
That is a machine gun Right.
tim pool
So the assault rifle is like the populist term that politicians like to use to scare people Assault weapon assault rifle is a is a is a rifle that has selective fire so you can do single burst or full-auto in the colloquial that is but the Legal terminology this is the machine gun because they're talking about legislation and passing laws What the Democrats tend to do, and some Republicans, is they say, assault weapon, and they can't define what an assault weapon is.
alexander holladay
Right.
tim pool
So like, we were talking about this, I don't know if we were talking about it on the air, but like, the M1A is illegal in Maryland, but the SCAR, what does Luke have, the SCAR-22?
alexander holladay
SCAR-20.
tim pool
SCAR-20.
I shouldn't be talking about that publicly, I guess.
But anyway, oh well, too late, cat's out of the bag.
The M1A is illegal in Maryland because it's a weapon of war, I guess, but it's like, The M1A is, is it fair to say it's like relatively archaic?
The M1 Garand was what, World War II?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
And so it's not, it's not the same as like a modern AR-15 that could shoot the same caliber, which is probably more efficient and easier to use.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
So the point is, the assault weapon definition is like nonsensical almost.
And I know gun owners know this, and they've known this longer than I did, because you see the memes where it's like, this is illegal, this is legal, they're literally the same gun.
ian crossland
Um, assault rifle means means selective fire, which does that always mean that it has a full auto selection of single burst or full auto?
alexander holladay
So, okay.
So machine talking, going back to the legal term, the machine gun is any weapon that fires more than one bullet with a single pull of the trigger.
ian crossland
Oh, so burst fire.
alexander holladay
So burst fire, full auto, anything of that nature.
When you talk about assault weapons, assault rifles, these are vague and
undefined terms, which is why I sort of...
tim pool
I'm pretty sure assault rifle is defined.
So it was popularized by Hitler, the term assault rifle, and it's a selective
fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.
They were first put into mass production and accepted into wide use during World War II.
The first rifles were the German StG 44.
Assault weapon is the nonsensical term that has no real definition.
ian crossland
Right, like a flamethrower could be an assault weapon.
They assaulted...
tim pool
There are some handguns that are assault weapons.
alexander holladay
Grenades are assault weapons.
The language I'm trying to focus on is what's in U.S.
law, because assault weapon and assault rifle aren't defined anywhere in U.S.
unidentified
law.
ian crossland
Except for by Hitler, apparently.
alexander holladay
Except by Hitler.
ian crossland
Assault rifle, selective fire, burst fire.
So they think ARs are assault rifles by Hitler's definition.
alexander holladay
And the reason they think that is because they look very similar to the common combat rifle issued to our, you know, the U.S.
unidentified
Army.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, ARs don't fire bursts.
alexander holladay
But they don't fire bursts.
They're not machine guns.
ian crossland
So they're not assault rifles.
alexander holladay
So they're not any of those categories.
tim pool
So you mentioned volley fire earlier, right?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Let's say you had a gun with like, let's say it was a 5.56 with like 15 barrels.
What if when you pull the trigger one time, it goes ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da Or would that be considered volley?
alexander holladay
I think that's considered volley fire.
tim pool
So it would function effectively.
I don't... The accuracy would not be the same as full auto.
Actually, it might be better.
alexander holladay
I mean, I mean, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're chasing into the territory where, like, I'm not a legal expert and I don't actually know.
Um, also, like, I, I feel like it all depends on the mechanism.
Because if you pull the trigger once and it's like a physical, well, even then.
I don't know how you would initiate all of that.
It's, we get into a technical argument and you would need to send it to the ATF to be evaluated.
tim pool
There's some crazy guns.
So I just Google searched it.
There's the S333 volley fire.
It's a prototype six barreled pepper box style pocket pistol.
There's a lot of things like, what does it, what does this one even shoot?
luke rudkowski
Is that binary fire?
Is that what we're talking about?
alexander holladay
No, so binary fire is a whole other thing where you pull the trigger and it fires one round and then you let go of the trigger and it fires another round.
And this is not a machine gun because the law specifies a machine gun is a single operation of the trigger.
So just pulling the trigger is a single operation and letting the trigger go is another operation.
luke rudkowski
So is that legal?
alexander holladay
Yeah.
Except in some states like Iowa.
Iowa you can't have binary triggers as far as I'm aware.
tim pool
What if you just had multiple triggers?
ian crossland
So you could like play the guitar like and you're going brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Oh yeah, like you have a trigger, but it's actually three small slivers of triggers that you pull all three triggers, and then it fires three rounds.
tim pool
No, you need three fingers to pull 1, 2, 3.
And you can go 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3.
alexander holladay
You might not, actually.
tim pool
You might not.
alexander holladay
You might be able to just line three triggers up and pull them.
tim pool
Well, then they might consider that single trigger pull.
alexander holladay
Well, no, because you have three distinct triggers and three distinct operating mechanisms within that.
tim pool
Call a lawyer, right?
alexander holladay
Call a lawyer.
ian crossland
You can have nine triggers, one on each finger.
tim pool
It's like, it's like bump fire.
It effectively allowed people to fire full auto.
And so they're like, no, that's got to be illegal.
And it's interesting because it does, right?
So what, you know, it's just people are going to keep finding different ways to make different kinds of guns.
Eventually there's going to be this weird shaped, you know, octagonal box with like pipes coming out the sides and you put your hands in it and then it does full auto and it's some crazy loophole to the law that allows it to function, you know, and you're playing the accordion and it's like... I think I'm familiar with the bump stock.
ian crossland
Can you explain the bump, how it seems full auto?
alexander holladay
So, when you're holding the rifle, the stock and the rifle itself are not fixed together.
So they slide forward and back.
So you're pulling the rifle, the stock, against your shoulder.
Sorry, you're pulling the stock against your shoulder and you're pushing the front, the barrel, the handguard forward.
And then, yeah.
tim pool
What happens is, where your finger goes, there's actually a stop.
And so your finger isn't on the trigger, it's on a piece of plastic.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
When you pull it forward, it pulls the trigger into your finger and then recoils back.
ian crossland
Oh, so you just keep pulling the trigger to you.
tim pool
You pull the gun forward and it pulls, the trigger hits your finger, bounces back.
You pull it forward, it bounces back.
So by pulling the gun forward and putting that force, it's going brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Interesting. So they made those illegal, but bump fire is a
technique which was a lot of people were complaining about like if you if you want to bump fire you can just do it if
you know how to do it.
alexander holladay
Yeah, you can loop your thumb through your belt loop and then wrap your finger around the trigger and just sort of
push forward a little bit and it'll just bump fire.
tim pool
Yep.
So that's why a lot of people... Super easy to do.
But I think it's interesting because it's not going to stop there, especially with 3D printing.
The FGC-9 looks kind of crazy compared to other guns you're used to seeing.
It's only a matter of time before they'll keep trying to make rules and eventually they're going to try and make one all-encompassing rule and it won't work.
ian crossland
That's what I'm afraid of.
If the government makes a law they can't enforce and become a total mockery of themselves.
tim pool
That's a real threat.
And then what happens when people have no faith in the system to enforce its own laws?
I don't know, man.
We're already at a point where if people really wanted to, they could get a 3D printer and make guns.
ian crossland
Hell yeah.
tim pool
How hard was it back in the day to make a gun?
You know, like, I'm talking hundreds of years ago.
ian crossland
Smith and Wesson?
tim pool
Getting someone to actually make the metal, it took hundreds of years to go from, like, muskets to cartridges.
That's crazy.
And then think about how long it's been, like, the rapid development in weapons technology over the past hundred years.
It's kind of crazy.
It's just nuts.
ian crossland
Yeah, they used to have like Smith, like gun manufacturers were huge, like single companies and super popular Smith and Wesson.
I don't really know.
tim pool
They still are.
ian crossland
But, but now there's just hundreds of thousands of gun manufacturers.
I would imagine.
I mean, literally, if there's people printing them.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
alexander holladay
Now everyone is a gun manufacturer.
ian crossland
Can you start a gun manufacturing company with little oversight using 3D printers and then serializing them?
alexander holladay
I mean, you could.
From the business perspective, there's a lot of hurdles to overcome, like your financial processing is a problem with all the financial censorship that's going on.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, doesn't MasterCard stop?
Didn't they release a statement that they're not going to allow people to use their credit cards at gun stores?
alexander holladay
I don't know if they actually followed through with that or not.
luke rudkowski
I remember that was a big issue.
But what are some of the other financial restraints?
alexander holladay
Well, even like you're considered the Obama administration put forth Operation Chokepoint, which classified firearms dealers or anyone in the firearms space as a high risk business.
And that added a whole bunch of additional restrictions on who they could do banking with and credit card processing with.
And it really limited to none of the major credit card processors will work with you if you're a business.
Well, most of them won't.
There are very few, but your service with them is really limited based on the political climate these days.
So there's a company that does crowdfunding, like GoFundMe, for gun-related projects called Gun Dynamics.
Their credit card processor canceled their contract with them, I think, today.
I think this was today.
So it's...
And just, I don't know what the reason or any background on that, I just heard that this happened.
tim pool
Crypto's the way to go?
alexander holladay
Yeah, I mean, what else can you do?
tim pool
Cryptocurrency.
The remarkable thing about cryptocurrency is that it doesn't matter which one you use.
Not even.
So the Mines token, do you know what it's currently trading at?
ian crossland
It's ranged between like...
33 cents and a $1.25, I think?
tim pool
You know what doesn't matter?
The value of the token.
Because I'll put it this way.
Let's say this gun company gets their credit card processor shut down.
So they announce that, uh, you know what?
We're gonna use mine's tokens.
And then all that matters is, I can then buy mine's tokens, the correct value, send it to them, then they can immediately transfer it into U.S.
currency.
Through a regular market.
So it doesn't matter what the credit card company wants to do.
There's a way to transfer the value instantly.
ian crossland
Oh, I was thinking about a gun that shoots crypto or like every time you pull the trigger.
Hold on.
It sounds like a joke now, but in 50 years we'll look back on this.
Every time you pull the trigger, it charges your account?
tim pool
No, it writes the blockchain so you know when the bullet was fired.
ian crossland
Oh, that's a good idea.
tim pool
Maybe it's a good idea.
It depends on your, if you want mass surveillance, you know what I mean?
alexander holladay
Depends on execution and who has access to that data.
ian crossland
Right.
It's an idea.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Tracking when bullets are fired.
ian crossland
Oh, that's cool.
And where they went?
tim pool
Well, I don't know how you transfer where they went.
ian crossland
Where they land?
tim pool
If the gun has GPS on it.
ian crossland
If the bullets have GPS?
alexander holladay
Well, now we're getting into smart guns.
ian crossland
That's a whole nother... Like the depleted uranium bullets that are left over in Iraq are devastating.
They're like in the dirt, irradiating people.
luke rudkowski
Munitions.
tim pool
But you know where they were shot, you don't necessarily know where they would go.
Like, they can't put a GPS in the bullet, you know what I mean?
Well, I don't know, who knows what crazy tech the military has at this point, for all we know.
You know, they got little flies with cameras on them that fly around.
There was a cool project ten years ago of these really tiny drones that were like this big, and they flew like dragonflies.
unidentified
That was so cool.
ian crossland
That was ten years ago?
tim pool
Ten years ago.
Okay, it was like eight years ago.
ian crossland
Nanodrones!
tim pool
I mean, they weren't nano.
They were pretty big.
ian crossland
They probably are nano drones.
tim pool
But they were really light and they had cameras on them.
And it was a Kickstarter, I think.
I don't know whatever happened to that project.
But there are tiny little flying drones, man.
They got them.
lydia smith
It's the stink bug that keeps dive-bombing you.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
It's just spying on us.
ian crossland
I'm afraid of nano drones that'll fly in people's ears and kill them.
tim pool
You ever see that Black Mirror where the bees killed everybody?
The robo-bees?
Anyway, yeah, I don't I wonder if we'll come to a point where people start 3d printing like like you can buy disposable guns like disposable cameras like you walk into the shop It's like I just need the 20 shot and it comes the magazine preloaded and it can't be reloaded It just it's done when it's done and you throw in the garbage cuz it's just like plastic with a nail in it I'm most excited about 3d printing ammo and I know you talked a little bit about it or do you have any information?
alexander holladay
Oh It's still, it's still very much an alpha sort of development.
Like I said, we're still, we're still working at the chemistry to get smokeless powder.
We're still working out like the, the actual construction of the round and what kind of calibers you can use and what kind of pressures you can get.
So there's a lot in development and, you know, if you guys are interested.
Are chemists and you're interested in in getting in this space? This is somewhere
tim pool
I heard you can make I heard you make a make you can make both out of bat poop
unidentified
Say what I heard you can make bullets out of bat poop. What are you sure?
tim pool
No, that's cuz bat has something specific in a salt coronavirus. Yeah
Something else like I was reading like how they would make black powder back in the day. Yeah, it doesn't have
lydia smith
phosphorus in it. Is that it?
I don't know.
tim pool
I think so.
unidentified
I don't know how to make gunpowder, white powder, whatever.
tim pool
Smokeless powder is the better, safer?
alexander holladay
Smokeless is what's in modern cartridges.
Black powder is what they used to use, what a lot of people still use for certain types of hunting, but it's easier to make.
tim pool
So what, like the original bullets had tons of smoke that would come out?
alexander holladay
Yeah, it was really just a lot of smoke here.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
They transitioned because if it got wet, they wouldn't fire.
alexander holladay
That was more of a problem of like having the whole muzzle loading in general where everything was just exposed to the elements all the time.
tim pool
AKs can fire when they're soaked, right?
alexander holladay
Well, everything can fire when it's soaked.
You can duck an M4 in a pool and still fire.
ian crossland
Yeah.
And the bullets too.
If the bullets get wet, they'll still fire.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
Cause everything's encapsulated in that cartridge.
ian crossland
So when you're printing, you can print the casing of the bullet out of plastic?
Is that?
alexander holladay
No, not yet.
So we're, we're not there yet.
Um, it's, we're getting there.
tim pool
Well, like shotgun shells are plastic, but they have, uh, the metal primer cap, right?
alexander holladay
Yeah, so shotgun shells is a chemistry.
There is a guy working on printable shotgun stuff.
It's the Liberator 12K project.
It's another cool one.
It's not entirely 3D printed, similar to the FGC9 where you're using off-the-shelf parts, but it's a 12-gauge that you can print.
And it functions pretty well.
He's still, it's still in beta.
He's doing a lot of, he's been testing it for like three years.
He's going thorough on the testing.
tim pool
I was watching that movie, News of the World, and it's really interesting because, you know, if you don't know the history of guns, but Tom Hanks' character has birdshot, but he has brass shotgun shells that he loads and he like pours the birdshot out.
And then, spoiler alert, if you haven't seen the movie, you've been warned.
There's a scene where he's fighting with people and all he has is a birdshot.
He runs out of bullets in his revolver and then this little girl puts coins in the brass shells and then he shoots and kills a guy with coins.
alexander holladay
I think Mythbusters did an episode on that.
Yeah, it didn't work very well.
tim pool
But it, like, you know, whether or not it would work, it was interesting this idea that shotgun shells used to be brass and reloadable, basically.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
alexander holladay
I mean, polymers are still very new in, like, the history of humanity.
tim pool
Yeah.
alexander holladay
So before polymers, what did you, what kind of soft metal did you have?
tim pool
Well, you had brass and... Well, they started doing paper shells.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
Paper?
tim pool
Yeah, because it just blows the whole thing and sprays it out anyway, so.
ian crossland
They're working with like, um, recovering plastic, melting it back down in like an anaerobic environment with no oxygen back into like liquid oil.
And then you can use that as a printing filament.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
And you can also grind up the pellets and melt the pellets that way a lot easier.
So if you can start making ammo out of recovered plastic and like scrap metal, I think that's the key.
You need the primer, obviously, which I don't know, carbon.
alexander holladay
I don't know if you've ever messed with graphene at all as a, I haven't, but I'm absolutely not the chemist.
I have no idea what's going on.
It's magic to me.
ian crossland
If we could pull carbon out of the carbon dioxide and help make primer out of that, that'd be interesting too.
I'm really spitballing here.
tim pool
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ian crossland
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I'd love to subscribe, but literally can't.
We are talking about setting up something just like off PayPal, I guess.
We'll figure it out.
The whole system on TimGuys.com is relatively new, and we're just trying to build it and make sure it works and then, you know, grow.
But we're gonna figure it out.
Gerald Armstrong says, Tim, talk to Sargon to get Count Dankula on Adam's show.
Uh, sure.
I've also been talking to Sargon and Dankula to get him on this show, and COVID makes it, uh, just very, very difficult to do.
lydia smith
Dankula has family obligations, too.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see.
5882300 says, New member here was hoping to help you or anyone in the Geodome quest with a shoutout from my buddy's company.
Thunder Domes.
We design and make custom cheap domes.
Hope you'll give us a look.
P.S.
How did you not finish the jingle?
Which jingle?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're looking at doing domes, but man, is it really hard to buy land right now.
And the longer it takes, like... Man, all the rich people fleeing the big cities are buying up land like crazy!
Which is kind of a bummer, man.
Stump says, this is eerily similar to the debut South Park episode, Moving My Retirement Portfolio to Astroglide.
luke rudkowski
Smart man.
People have been, because I tweeted the story, people are sending me a lot of South Park images of poor Cartman during that very famous South Park episode where he was probed by the aliens.
tim pool
Cargoosh says, rectum douche for victory against the silent enemy.
To quote Emperor Biden, we need a full scale wartime effort.
Yes.
Michael Gilley says, Mr. Poole, have you or have you not, in fact, started a polyamorous prepper cult?
Also, I am a gorilla.
I have not, unfortunately.
It's just not the case.
So, uh, that won't be happening.
luke rudkowski
Giving me some ideas there.
tim pool
Omar says, Tim, as a Canadian, I'd love if you covered some of the stuff happening up here.
Two weeks ago, an Ontario Conservative MPP was booted from the party for writing a letter to the Premier with sources with suggestions to exit lockdown.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Well, you know, it's the Great Reset.
It is upon us.
The Davos group is rather successful in all of their efforts, so, you know, good for them.
Foobadoo says, hey, Ctrl-Pew, don't 3D print guns explode in your hands?
Can't stop the signal.
Do they explode in your hands?
alexander holladay
They absolutely do.
tim pool
So they don't because people who are only listening have no idea you held your hands up.
alexander holladay
I forget there's like an audio component.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He held up his hands.
His hands are completely intact.
alexander holladay
Either that or I have a really great prosthetics.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Break the chains.
Media says now that Styx Hexenhammer is back in Vermont, you need to get him on IRL.
Myself and thousands of others would love to hear you and Styx banter and discuss culture and society.
Look at my content too.
I would love to have Styx on the show.
We're working on it.
And smash that like button if you haven't already.
It is greatly appreciated.
Let's see what we got here.
Brent Sagan says, Hey Tim, I fell behind on a bunch of your videos and to catch up, I listened to them at two times speed and hearing you all live makes you sound drunk.
Uh, well you can always go back and watch these old episodes at two times speed as well.
Yes.
I think the, uh, what we're doing now for the members only content also has a speed boost too.
So now you should be able to watch that in a lower resolution and which makes it easier to stream as well as increase the speed.
lydia smith
Cool.
tim pool
Ken L says your stream did not show up on my subscription feed.
Had to go to Timcast IRL page to see if your stream was live.
I'm not surprised, but it was a first.
I mean, I am, we put anal swab in the title and I had a feeling YouTube was going to be like, we don't promote that here.
And I was like, I don't care.
It's the story.
We're doing it.
You know, if we did something like... I don't know, just use buzzwords.
What are you, Minecraft?
What's it?
Minecraft, Fortnite, PewDiePie, Democrat.
Bozongas.
Yeah, Bozonga, boom!
ian crossland
Birthday.
tim pool
No, if you put Bozongas, you're gonna get knocked down like anal swab.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
But like birthday and then someone's name, famous name.
tim pool
Marriage, baby, birthday.
ian crossland
They do it on Twitter.
tim pool
Someone did an experiment on Facebook where they would put something like just got married or something in all of their posts because the algorithm would boost those words because people interact with marriage and childbirth.
Like congratulations.
So they would be like, I just, you know, gave birth to a baby boy.
Anyway, here's my new book.
It's coming out.
ian crossland
Yup.
tim pool
Lua Coder says, Tim, I am now going out of my way to buy things that are not from China, and I've realized how difficult it is.
I refuse to support this regime, and I encourage everyone else to do so, even if it sacrifices convenience.
I completely agree.
And we do try.
We need to try harder, for sure.
Payne Cabal says, get FPS Russia over to talk guns with you.
That'd be cool.
Pirate Tomsky says, that's why it's spreading, Tim.
The lefties have been covering the wrong poophole the whole time.
Oh, jeez.
Dozerman says, keep an extra mask in your disgusting pocket.
Touch it, cough, and sneeze in it, and realize masks aren't the most sanitary thing to touch and reuse.
It just shows you're in the cult.
ian crossland
Well, look.
tim pool
They're disposable masks that are super cheap.
I understand the purpose of masks, and I really have no problem using it.
The problem is the level of absurdity when they're like, nowhere to, or in China when they're like, bend over, here it comes again.
You know, not really interested in all that.
Let's, uh, Cargouche says, You misunderstand, and it's very important to understand this.
They're not getting rid of the gifted programs because of equality.
They're getting rid of them because of a belief in equity.
That's right.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
The Black Metal says, I'd be careful with making your own guns.
Last month, ATF rated Polymer 80 because of the idea of receivers having no serial.
The Biden admin is pushing hard on this ghost gun thing.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
I think their goal is to create obstructions and hurdles to make it very difficult for you to do.
ian crossland
And to scare the populace.
Yep.
tim pool
Ghost gun.
Sounds scary, right?
ian crossland
And just like if they'll raid one person, it's like, and then they make stories about it, like, don't let you be the next.
Be afraid.
Don't do it.
tim pool
King O. Jingling says, Hi gang, I'm raising awareness for the farmer protests in India right now.
We're trying to repeal three agricultural laws that only benefit corporations.
The fight against corporate government is the same worldwide.
Love your work.
I believe corporate government is fascism.
Yeah.
The left likes to say it's not because fascism is ultra-nationalistic, and I feel like that's like a deviation.
If, you know, the goal of the Nazis and the fascists was like world domination and taking everything over, how is that nationalistic when you're invading other countries?
You know what I mean?
Also, it's really weird that they keep saying fascist over and over again with like an emphasis on Italy instead of Nazis with an emphasis on Hitler.
Like, they call people Nazis for sure, but they really like saying fascist over and over again as if, like, Italy was the prime problem in World War II.
They were one of the big problems, but Nazi Germany was it.
ian crossland
I want to give a shout-out to the Federal Reserve, because I feel like it's the most fascist thing in our country right now.
It's like a corporation with no government oversight that's controlling our government, our monetary supply, which is kind of our government.
tim pool
This is interesting.
Octorian says Rand Paul got 45 senators to kill the second impeachment.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, good.
unidentified
Thanks.
tim pool
Good.
Which means Trump can run again if it's done.
ian crossland
And Trump can pour $72 million into a bunch of political campaigns because he repealed that, uh... The lobbying thing?
Yeah, he's lobbying.
I read an article about it yesterday.
tim pool
He's already at it.
Well, I think he wants to run again, so he's disavowing the Patriot Party filings.
Like, people have filed saying that they're joint fundraising.
He's like, that's not true.
And apparently he's told Republicans he's not going to start a new political party.
I guess that's that's probably the compromise. He probably went to them and said,
if you convict me, I will start a new political party and get people to run against you.
It'll be the end of the Republicans, which I think it would be a great thing.
I think people need to stop saying, but we have to have the Republican Party.
There's a poll showing if people had a choice between the Patriot Party,
the Republicans, Democrats or other, who would they vote for?
And Republican and Patriot are split.
Democrats have 46%, but if you combine Republican with Patriot Party, it still loses to the Democrats.
People are not going to vote for Republicans next time around.
It's not going to happen.
Because of gerrymandering, there's a possibility the Republicans reclaim the House.
That's a play.
But I think without Trump, a lot of people are walking away.
That's why they need Trump.
Trump, if they convict him, it's all over for the Republicans.
But like I said, even then, you know, in a presidential election, Democrats would win.
Forrest Horlacher says, I think it's very important that we do not give up and keep people in the know.
It may seem redundant to you.
It looks like there's another one from him coming up because it's got cut off, but I will just say right now, I'm not saying don't say it.
I'm saying it's getting to the point where we all know.
And instead of saying, oh no, the double standard, we say, well, there is a double standard and everyone knows.
And it's not an issue of like, whether it is or isn't real.
It is literally real.
So let's see.
I think there may have been another super chat, but, uh, I don't know where it is cause it got cut off.
But, uh, you know, Vasht says Gatling guns are not machine guns.
So you can legally own Gatling guns.
alexander holladay
Apparently.
I'm not, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
All depends on your state too.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
lydia smith
I'm gonna investigate that.
tim pool
Let's see where we're at.
Zanzibar says, you can make an AR-15 full auto, and I'm not going to read all of this just in case, but he says, it is illegal.
You should be, uh, yes, you should be able to have it.
Whether you, yeah.
So, I can't, I'm not going to read a super chat that mentions something is literally illegal, but apparently you can.
They sell conversion kits for this stuff too, isn't it?
But it's like illegal?
Like the ATF tries to get people to do it?
alexander holladay
Yeah, there's a lot of that funny business going around.
unidentified
Don't do it!
Obey the law.
tim pool
Zachary Daly says, hopefully you see this bought a camera.
I can make money from pretty much anywhere looking to start broadcasting and recording these instances in the US.
Since YouTube seems unsafe, what would you recommend?
Honestly, I don't know.
YouTube will ban you if you're a journalist.
So journalists, independent journalists are just getting nuked across the board because unfiltered content that just shows things happening is a violation of YouTube's rules.
I'm not even kidding.
luke rudkowski
Be a good slave, work for CNN, be promoted in the algorithm, be promoted in the search, and then five years later expose all the horrible crap that they did.
ian crossland
Also use minds.
Use multiple platforms and start your own website and host your content on your own website too.
And then use things like Twitter and YouTube to promote it as long as you can.
alexander holladay
Also, Library and Odyssey, for us anyway, they've been a great platform to host content on.
Like, we put all of our files up on there, all of our media goes up on there, and they're one of the few platforms that advertise us as, you know, look, the 3D-printed gun people are here.
ian crossland
They're super cool.
I mirrored my entire YouTube catalog on Library, on Odyssey.
unidentified
Very cool.
tim pool
Why hasn't someone created a social media platform that just aggregates all the social media platforms?
ian crossland
Because you need all the different APIs.
tim pool
No, you don't.
They could open as a browser.
You could create an app that just switches between the browsers and it's logged in on each one.
And it stores the cookie.
ian crossland
What do you mean, switches between the browsers?
tim pool
So, it could just function like a browser.
ian crossland
Okay, so you build a browser, what does it do exactly?
tim pool
It holds four specific tabs for, you know, or whatever social networks, and then you just swipe left and right between all of them and it's just functioning like a browser.
So you'll have someone's YouTube channel, you'll click their profile, and then it'll load up a browser with all of their social media, and you get all of it in one feed because it functions like a browser.
If you wanted to get it in one feed, the API thing, I understand.
But you could literally just swipe left and right on their different posts.
ian crossland
To just go to their YouTube channel, their Facebook channel, their Twitter channel?
Well, no, you could just do that with Brave.
You just don't have to open all their channels.
tim pool
The idea is to create an app where you can follow people but not control banning them because you don't actually host any content.
So here's the idea.
They say, Parler got banned because they were hosting violent content and refuse to take it down.
Okay, here's what I'll do.
I will create an app that allows people to follow each other, but you literally can post nothing.
You will never post anything.
We will store nothing.
The only thing we get is your name.
And then, if someone clicks your name, you, as the person, the only thing you can do is include links to your other social platforms.
So if they come to us and say, your app is hosting this, that's not true.
That's Twitter.
That's not us.
All we do is a directory for individuals and their social media.
ian crossland
So like a portal?
tim pool
Kind of.
alexander holladay
Platform?
tim pool
But you'd be following them.
So you'd pull up your app, and then you'd, you know, you'd see the individuals, and you'd see, like, all it would say is, you know, you'd click the person, and then you'd see their Twitter.
And then you'd swipe, you'd see their YouTube, you'd swipe, you'd see their Instagram.
And it functions like a browser.
That's it.
It's just a browser, and it loads the website when you click it.
Then you'll be able to follow everybody, and they can't ban you.
So what happens is, Let's say you're on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube.
And then I open my app, and I'm following Ian Crossland.
And I go to your name, and I see these three things where you post.
But then one day you're banned from all of them.
I still follow you, but now you have no active socials.
So you go in, and you change the link to Gab.
Now when I click you, I still see your posts.
ian crossland
Oh, I see.
But you're still following me, so I don't lose my followership.
tim pool
Exactly.
You lose no followers, and who you're following.
And you can be banned a million times, and then eventually you just set up your own website.
And then when I click your name, it just loads your website in, you know, superstar.com or whatever.
Maybe I shouldn't have given that idea away.
ian crossland
Someone should build that.
Make it open source so people can make more of them.
tim pool
An open source directory that allows you to follow anyone but doesn't post anything.
So Amazon can't say, oh you're hosting this content.
We're literally not.
It's literally just a browser where someone has linked to their social accounts.
That's it.
alexander holladay
I guess let me ask you this.
Do you think it would matter to Amazon that you're not actually hosting Because it doesn't matter to YouTube or Google whether or not you violated their terms of service, they're still going to delete your account and take down the video.
luke rudkowski
Another thing to really... I saw a new report that came out that talked about how 94% of all child abuse images came from Facebook.
You know, when you have that in comparison to Parler being taken down, that's a big difference there.
So, to add to that point that you were making.
tim pool
I think the idea would work.
I mean, obviously they would try to get rid of it, and they would say it's a directory listing a bunch of extremists or whatever, and I'd be like, we don't host anything.
At all.
All we do is it's a list of people, like, their names, and then the content is from somewhere entirely different.
It's a browser.
It's a browser with people who can make suggestions.
I guess they can argue people could put in links to, like, bad sites or something.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
But you could make it so that they can only link to Twitter, like, they can only link to existing social platforms or whatever.
ian crossland
But then I could link to your Twitter account with my...
Yeah.
No.
tim pool
Or it's just the wrong account, and they're telling you to follow somebody else, I guess.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
Yeah.
Boom.
There we go.
tim pool
They would still, you know, probably try and remove the app from the App Store or whatever.
And that's what people argued, too, like, when they were banning all these social networks.
It's like, dude, what are you gonna do, ban a browser?
That's literally what they did when they banned Gab's Fediverse app.
It was like banning a browser.
ian crossland
What's that thing called?
tim pool
Fediverse?
ian crossland
No, no.
Gab made a browser extension, I think it's called.
tim pool
Oh, Decentre.
ian crossland
Yeah, Decentre, where you can comment on any website.
PocketNet is like a decentralized blockchain social network.
That's pretty promising.
Yeah.
I like where that's headed.
tim pool
Let's read some more Super Chats!
Geary Vision says, we weren't allowed to use crew-served weapons in many populated areas of Iraq and Afghan due to high numbers of civilian casualties.
Pelosi wanted to unleash them on our own streets.
F-ing disgraceful.
Evil personified.
Joe Walton says, Illinois has concealed carry now, but the licensing process takes a very long time.
It took my brother more than six months to get his.
ian crossland
Wow.
alexander holladay
Or bribes.
Geez.
tim pool
Gareth Green says, stability breeds complacency.
Forget autocracy and democracy.
Anocracy for the win.
What's anocracy?
ian crossland
Anarchy?
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
It says anocracy.
alexander holladay
I feel like it's anarchy, but like spelled fun.
tim pool
Martin Edgar says, California has banned potato guns.
Okay.
lydia smith
That sounds right.
tim pool
Thomas Bennett says, Alex, you can still officiate my wedding, buddy.
From Tridge.
alexander holladay
Yeah, I am a pastor.
I can officially marry a woman.
And I did it for him, and he never set up a date.
So, it's on you, buddy.
tim pool
Sprig Bandersnatch says, Tim, why did it take so long for you to gun up?
You should have done it the day the weirdo showed up at your house at 3am, then came back later.
Well, we lived, like, literally next door to the police station, which is why when the dude showed up, the cops were there in, like, less than a minute.
And so I didn't think I needed it.
The cop told me to buy a gun.
He's like, well, here's what he said.
If it were me, I'd answer the door with a shotgun.
But looking at the laws, I was like, I'd still have to run.
So it's like, someone comes to my door, I have to go out the back door and run away.
That's ridiculous.
It's just ridiculous.
alexander holladay
I mean, maybe take 10 steps and be like, no, he's much faster than I am.
tim pool
Sure.
But then you go to court and they'll be like, we think you could have.
And you're like, but I couldn't.
Doesn't matter.
We think you could have.
luke rudkowski
Maybe rubber bullets?
tim pool
I think that wasn't allowed either, I'm not sure.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah.
But anyway, look, ultimately COVID happened, and I was like, oh man, like, we're gonna have to rely on ourselves.
It was just like, I didn't think the police would be able to handle mass riots, food riots.
And we saw food riots.
We saw crazy stuff happening.
Not like the worst in the world, and we saw the George Floyd riots.
And then when the literal riots happened with George Floyd, I was like, I better go get some guns.
But I think I actually was in the process of getting guns well before that.
Yeah, you were.
Yeah.
alexander holladay
What shocked me was when police stations started shutting down for COVID and there wasn't a mass.
Well, there was a mass.
We're going to run out and buy guns.
But there's more now than there was then.
That surprises me.
tim pool
AGcast says, Pew is telling you guys the hardcore mode.
We're American and can use gun parts like a Glock or RP9 barrels for the latter being $10.
I have no engineering background and built an FGC9.
It's like PC building.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
So I could just order those parts and then do it?
alexander holladay
Yeah, we covered a little bit ago, there are mods for the FGC9 that let you use Glock barrels,
and you can, with a little bit of skill, a little bit of practice, you can mod it yourself to use a
different barrel that you happen to have lying around. So, you know, the options are there if
you want to use them. The FGC9 specifically was built by a guy, well it was a derivation of another
The FGC9 was done by a guy in the UK to specifically be, you know, something he would be able to build in the UK and, you know, by extension through most of the rest of the world.
tim pool
Yeah, it'd be fun to try and put one of those things together.
alexander holladay
Yeah, hard mode, absolutely, but...
tim pool
Russell Brown says you can also find ones with different attachments, like a CNC laser etcher 3D printer.
Interesting.
Steven Chambers says, Tim, please talk about video games more for fun.
We 90s kids need to stick together.
You could cover game stories that wouldn't be allowed today, etc.
I mean, maybe on the website as we expand.
That's the plan.
We're going to have a bunch of different kinds of content.
There's going to be other websites that start emerging from this.
The goal with TimCast.com isn't just to be this podcast, but to actually expand and do more different sites and things like that, which you will see soon.
ian crossland
And in the meantime, Red Dead Redemption 2 online is $5 on Steam till February.
Get it!
luke rudkowski
Or we could all play a video game as a podcast.
We could all play The Last of Us.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
luke rudkowski
And that'd be the podcast.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
There you go. Gemcast says full auto is good when you're outnumbered alone in close quarters
That's why government agencies don't like it and wants to know who had them even the odds
interesting J Mac and cheese Macintosh as Tim love your work
Have you checked out the battle between Reddit and Wall Street over GameStop stock?
Could be the shot heard around the world in the Robin Hood investor revolution.
I've been watching it.
I don't know enough about it other than basically some short sellers were trying to like short GameStop.
So then Reddit was like, we're just gonna buy it.
And then it screwed over hedge funds.
I don't know the full story. Otherwise we would have gone over it.
ian crossland
So like a short seller is when someone bets on...
tim pool
Stocks failing.
ian crossland
Gambling on that the stock's going to fail.
And people saw all these big corporations gambling that the stock was going to fail.
So they all invested in it, raise the stock and cause these corporations to lose money.
That's insane. It's awesome.
tim pool
GameStop, I...
ian crossland
But it doesn't mean that GameStop's stock is valuable.
They're just using it to screw people over, it looks like.
tim pool
But some people are saying that if GameStop switches to an online retailer, they'll own the market.
ian crossland
They should do that.
tim pool
And they're slow, and they're missing the opportunity.
ian crossland
They're way behind Steam and Origin and Stadia, which is Microsoft.
Yep.
tim pool
But they could.
They could still do it.
They tried shifting.
So GameStop tried shifting into a more, like, geek culture thing with, like, geek... What's the store called?
Geek something.
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
Whatever.
But, uh, I think what they should have done is they should have opened up gaming tables.
ian crossland
Like, like brick and mortar gaming tables?
tim pool
Board games and card games.
And they already sell a lot of that stuff.
ian crossland
I feel so bad with COVID.
It's just decimated that industry.
tim pool
Definitely.
Gareth Green says, Tim, the law of scarcity is absolute.
Even if we had replicators, there would be a finite number of replicators, not to mention resources necessary to manufacture them.
Replicators would make replicators.
ian crossland
And the resource could be light.
tim pool
Photons can be condensed into electrons, which can be Yeah, in Star Trek, I believe it's the nacelles collect hydrogen and then use that for their replicators.
And then replicators can replicate replicator parts to assemble a new replicator.
ian crossland
You can actually make light out of the vacuum and then you can turn light into matter.
tim pool
I guess the general idea is that you do need the matter, and they would collect hydrogen in massive amounts, and then use that as the base.
ian crossland
I was posting about how they're actually creating light out of the vacuum of space, and then they're turning the light into the matter.
So, and then you can condense the electrons into hydrogen.
tim pool
Check this out Ian, you'll like this one.
Bam says, have you started trying to develop homemade ammo casings?
Apparently shot shells are made of HDPE or LDPE plastic.
Full plastic shot shells were experimented on during the 60s and 70s by Winchester.
ian crossland
That sounds awesome.
tim pool
Full plastic.
alexander holladay
Yeah, it's been worked on.
There's a guy who is actually 3D printing the 12 gauge, I talked about it.
Uh, and I completely forgot.
tim pool
Shotgun.
Plastic shells.
alexander holladay
Yeah, I've spaced on his username, but it's Deliberator12kproject.
It's 12-gauge plastic shotguns.
tim pool
This is interesting.
So I saw this video.
Aaron Trucker says, a gaming channel called The Spiffing Brit made a video explaining a YouTube algorithm glitch using community polls.
He got over 25 million views in two days.
It's going to be patched now that it's public, but you could benefit now.
I believe The Spiffing Brit is wrong.
I believe he's absolutely wrong.
So for those that aren't familiar, what he said was YouTube rolled out the community tab function.
They wanted people to use it, so they created a general algorithm that promotes those who post in the community tab.
But because no one uses it, you could now make a post, put a bunch of keywords in it, and then YouTube would send it to a ridiculous amount of people.
He said that he was able, based on his calculations, to get around 25 million views.
Well, first I'll say, I could be wrong about this, but my general understanding is that he got like 150,000 likes.
And then said, if on average 4% of people click, you know, click the like button, that should be, you know, what we estimated between 25 or so million or whatever.
He said 1 in 40 people, something like that.
Anyway.
I think he's wrong about the algorithm being a glitch.
It's not a glitch.
And his discovery of it and exploitation of it is exactly what YouTube's wanted the entire time.
And I know this because YouTube's told me this.
So, you know, this video comes out and this guy's like, nobody uses it.
So if you use it, you'll get a ton of views.
And it's like, right.
That's what YouTube wants.
YouTube wants people to use it and get a benefit from it so that people start using it.
Now this video comes out claiming it's an exploit, saying that YouTube's not going to patch this.
I don't believe they will.
Because the algorithm is designed to work with an equilibrium.
If only one person uses it, then the only community post anyone on the site will see is from one person.
If only 10% of people use it, then everyone will see only 10% of people who use it.
Now because of this video, everyone starts using it, then it's going to balance out and just normalize, and YouTube needs to do nothing.
So I've used the community tabs frequently for a lot of things, because it's useful when it is, but not for, you know, enough.
Seeing that video just made me go, oh yeah, I should post more on the community tab.
Not like, wow, what an exploit!
No, I fully get it.
YouTube emailed me a long time ago saying, we're going to be prioritizing the community tab, and those that use it more will see a higher watch time, and we'll see, you know, all these benefits.
And I was like, cool, right on.
That was it.
It's not a secret.
YouTube's been telling creators to do this.
They've been emailing them, telling them to do this.
It just so happened that nobody cared and some dude discovered that he can get a ton of views because nobody cared.
And then he told everybody, I guess, and now he's going to get a lot of play for it.
Good for him.
I just think it's what YouTube wants.
They're happy it's happening.
But you can give it a shot if you want.
It will benefit you because nobody uses it, right?
I mean, I feel like the more terrifying that they tell you the firearm is, the more money they should give you for it.
3D printed gun and how much profit margin is Control-P looking at here?
Will he? When they do gun buybacks, is there any like restriction on what you can turn in?
alexander holladay
I mean, I feel like the more terrifying that they tell you the firearm is, the more money they should give you for it.
unidentified
Yes.
alexander holladay
So if on average I spend $2 per printed firearm, and you know, I have a lot of R&D,
so there's a lot of failed prints that are close enough to being firearms, where I think they're firearms,
and these people at the buyback aren't going to know the difference.
So...
I feel like I'm looking at a margin of like four to five hundred dollars per, and I have a box full.
So anyone who comes to this buyback after me isn't going to get anything because I'm just going to take all their money.
unidentified
Oh, there you go.
lydia smith
Excellent plan.
tim pool
Bud's next is, have you seen the recent Rage Against the Machine propaganda piece?
I know they are left, but did not believe they would go that far.
I didn't see it.
Has anybody seen that?
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
What did they do?
I don't know.
Ian?
ian crossland
Someone messaged me about it.
I'll read it really quick.
tim pool
Hank McCormick says, ask your guests about his opinions about Polymer80 and 80% lowers.
I think we did.
alexander holladay
Yeah, we talked about with the BiBuild shoot kit.
I think the ATF is wrong.
And I think Polymer80 does good work.
tim pool
Let's see, Placid Saint says, hey Tim, the ammo company Phoenix here in Michigan got cited for its employees not wearing masks, and now they're no longer selling distributing ammo to law enforcement or their departments.
Wow, that's funny.
lydia smith
Spicy.
tim pool
There you go.
alexander holladay
Heart you, Phoenix.
ian crossland
There you go.
tim pool
Griffin Games says, all this talk about pew-pews reminds me of a quote about calibers.
Quote, 9mm takes care of the body, .45 takes care of the soul.
Don't want people coming back as a lich.
What's that from?
ian crossland
Wait, you said something about liches.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Like, it sounds like a video game.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a quote about 45s not wanting- because they don't want people to come back as a lich.
alexander holladay
Sounds like ARFcom lore to me.
ian crossland
They're trying to shatter their, uh, their, uh, what is it called?
Their phylactery?
I don't know.
If you destroy the lich's phylactery, they can't respawn.
Their life essence is bound to it.
lydia smith
So it totally is a video game.
tim pool
Sterling Moore says, Tim, look up trigger activators.
They allow essentially full auto fire by means of a hand crank that attaches to the trigger guard and are legal.
Similarly, crank Gatling guns are perfectly legal and considered semi-auto.
alexander holladay
So the crank attachment is not legal in the state of Iowa.
tim pool
Oh.
alexander holladay
Federally, yeah, you're probably okay.
What does it do?
tim pool
Like, it hits the trigger when you crank it?
alexander holladay
Yeah, it's got a little flap on a little axle, and as you crank it, it just pulls the trigger.
tim pool
So how do you hold it?
Do you, like, bend your shoulder?
alexander holladay
And then you just, like that.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
See how, like, you can't regulate it all, everything.
Eventually, someone's gonna figure out some weird, ridiculous, circuitous system that uses a loophole, you know?
Someone, like I was saying, it's gonna get ridiculous.
Someone will have an accordion, and they're like, I'm just playing music!
lydia smith
I love it.
luke rudkowski
This is why prohibition never worked.
lydia smith
That's right.
luke rudkowski
Government doesn't work.
tim pool
Government doesn't work!
It's all gone!
ian crossland
The Rage Against the Machine, they're doing a documentary on race and racism called Killing in Thy Name.
Are you serious?
It's a 15 minute mini doc, I haven't seen it though.
tim pool
Have you ever seen that video of the people with the Trump flags and like the Blue Lives Matter flag dancing to Killing in the Name of?
Or is it Killing in the Name?
It's kind of funny because the song is literally about cops killing, you know, non-white people.
And there's a Trump supporter with like a blue, a thin blue line flag.
And they're like singing the song and dancing.
And then they were, I think, Tom Morello, he said, when we wrote the song, we never imagined like this would happen, you know?
Well, maybe they don't understand conservatives enough.
luke rudkowski
I had many interesting conversations with Tom Morello, and he always seemed like someone who didn't like the left and the right, but I guess that's changing now.
tim pool
Money talks, BS walks.
Tiger says, There are over 100 million AK-47s on Earth.
If 99% of them magically vanished, it leaves one per day for the next 2,739 years.
There will never be a world without guns.
They're too easy to make.
Google Dara Adam Kel, Pakistan.
Interesting.
William Samet says, Tim Pool gives horrible advice.
He tells people to smash that like button, but I am a gorilla, and now my computer is broken.
Give it a little tap.
Just a little teeny tap.
unidentified
Headbutt.
tim pool
Joshua Inzer says, potassium nitrate.
Check out Dr. Stone.
Ah, is that what's in the bat poop?
There you go.
Gunny Arlequin.
Are we talking about metal printing for cases, or one-use plastic?
I'm guessing the 55,000 PSI of a 556 would not agree with plastic.
alexander holladay
Yeah, probably.
Single use plastics for a lot of like lower pressure, black powder stuff, 12 gauge stuff, shotguns can probably get away with it.
For rifles, we're going to need some sort of casting to get involved in if we're going to use the FDM space.
tim pool
Alright.
AbrasiveFPV says, I received my Type 07 FFL a few weeks ago.
Currently tooling up to start selling extremely affordable 3D printed guns.
CtrlPew and Ivan have been an inspiration for me.
The mission is to legally arm as many people as possible for as little as possible.
Interesting, a store that sells 3D printed guns.
They'd be really cheap, wouldn't they?
alexander holladay
I would imagine, until you get insurance involved.
tim pool
It's like I was saying, like Kodak disposable cameras, you know?
You don't need a camera, you just go and you buy the disposable one, it's got the film, you can't reload it, you bring it in, they break it open, get the film out, that's it.
You buy the 3D printed gun, and once the magazine's in, it's got 20 rounds that can't be reloaded, like a Kodak disposable camera.
ian crossland
I wonder if you could brace plastic bullets like with metal so like instead of printing the whole case out of metal you print it out of plastic and then you cap it with a little bit of metal so that when it the pressure when it hits pressure it doesn't shatter like if the metal could somehow somehow brace so you don't have to you just say I don't know So the Liberator is pure plastic with a nail, right?
alexander holladay
Yes.
tim pool
So that plastic can withstand the pressure of the 9mm, obviously, for a certain amount of rounds.
alexander holladay
So the Liberator is using either a .38 ACP or .32, which are pretty low-power pistol cartridges, and the barrel is very thick.
tim pool
Could you do .22?
I know it's rimfire, but would you be able to do it?
alexander holladay
I have seen it done.
I don't know the longevity of that.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I'd imagine it's much weaker.
alexander holladay
It's not.
So it deals with chamber pressures.
That initial shock is what creates the fracture and then destroys the barrel.
tim pool
Interesting.
alexander holladay
So it's a little higher than the others.
Oh, OK.
tim pool
So it's worse.
alexander holladay
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Well, the more you learn, you know.
alexander holladay
There you go.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab a couple more of these.
Kami Sama says flamethrowers are not legally weapons in Michigan.
Long live the murder cube.
luke rudkowski
They're illegal almost everywhere except for two states.
lydia smith
That's irritating.
tim pool
Jose Gonzalez says Tulsi Gabbard was on Tucker Carlson an hour ago and she'd definitely be an awesome Republican candidate.
luke rudkowski
Isn't that funny? Yeah. Yeah, she really great. She really she released a very powerful video today comparing John
Brennan to using an atom shift to try to
Institute KGB tactics here in the United States. She said there are a land state
tim pool
She said they're a bigger threat and more dangerous than those who stormed the capital
She said the John Brennan's and the Adam shifts who want to institute a KGB police state in this country
ian crossland
Just start a locals account Oh, did she?
That's Dave Rubin's social network.
unidentified
There you go.
ian crossland
She's going social.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Janet Partridge says, Tim, just wanted to thank you.
I used to paint realism paintings and oils.
I haven't done a painting in five years.
Thanks, Jim, getting back into it.
I just wanted you to know your messages do get through.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
tim pool
Well, if you haven't already, go to TimCast.com and become a member, because we will have bonus segments.
More bonus segments!
And, uh, next week, we're going on a special Top Secret mission, which we will film much of, and create a special members-only video, which may involve something that s-s-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r Did that work?
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
You confused a whole bunch of people.
You sound like QAnon.
tim pool
Okay, let me try again.
It rhymes with Schmifty Malibur.
lydia smith
Okay, there you go.
tim pool
That worked, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We're gonna make a video, hopefully.
And we're going out on a special mission, and that may be the plan.
So I'm hoping that's how it works out, but it'll be for members only.
And we will be back, of course, live tomorrow night.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler at... I'm sorry, not Parler.
Wow, why did I say Parler?
Parler's gone.
ian crossland
Parler will be back!
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Twitter, Instagram, Mines at TimCast.
I do have a Gab account.
I've never posted there, but, you know, I'm Gab at TimCast as well.
And, like I said, TimCast.com to become a member.
Alex, do you want to shout out your social media, your projects, where people can download your guides to learn about 3D printed guns?
alexander holladay
Yeah, so first place to go, theguide.controlpew.com.
That'll get you started in 3D printing.
Controlpew.com is my site.
We'll post updates about what's going on in the community, new file releases, news and events.
And finally, all of my social medias.
I am controlpew.
If you click the little menu on the side of my site, you'll get all of them.
I'm everywhere.
tim pool
Right on.
luke rudkowski
I live by a very simple motto.
If the government exists, you have to watch out for your sphincters.
Very simple common, you know information that I share on my youtube channel.
We are changed the shirt that I'm wearing right now So stinking is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
You could get it at thebestpoliticalshorts.com And I thank you guys for watching and participating in this show.
You guys are really freaking cool And thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk to everyone You guys are really freaking cool, man.
ian crossland
Right?
You said it's guides slash C-T-R-L-P?
alexander holladay
Theguide.controlpew, so C-T-R-L-P-E-W.com.
ian crossland
Got it.
Hey, I want to give a special thanks to Tim Pool for purchasing me this graphene for Christmas.
This is pure graphene.
tim pool
I knew it was the perfect gift.
ian crossland
Yeah, it really is.
And I'm going to be spinning this in a moment, but Alex, I'll show this to you in a bit.
Because when you were talking about making black powder, this stuff is black powder.
So I wonder, and it's pure carbon.
So I wonder if this will somehow be a future ammo.
I just want to give a shout out to Graphene.
Spin it for you.
And you can follow me at Ian Crossland.
I'm going to be, I believe we're going to be gaming later tonight on twitch.tv slash Ian Crossland.
So come follow me there.
Follow me on Twitter and I'll shout you out on Twitter when I'm about to go live.
lydia smith
Super cool.
And then me in the corner, I looked up inocracy since somebody mentioned it in the super chat.
And apparently it is really a thing.
It's a form of government that is loosely defined as part democratic and part dictatorship, or as a regime that mixes democracy with autocratic features.
So that's kind of interesting.
tim pool
Interesting.
lydia smith
Today I learned.
Okay, so I finally figured out my socials.
So on Instagram and Gab, I am at Real Sour Patch Lids.
And on Twitter and Mines, I am just Sour Patch Lids.
So you can follow me at any of those places.
tim pool
And of course, we'll be back live, like I mentioned.
And you can check out my other YouTube channels.
YouTube.com slash TimCast.
YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.
The goal of what we're doing with TimCast.com is going to be more than just this show.
It's going to be, eventually, more personalities.
It's going to be a bigger brand.
It's going to be a bunch of stuff.
And you'll see.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
It's coming.
And there's a lot I can't necessarily talk about now, but we're going to take care of everybody and make sure everybody is
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