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Timcast IRL #184 - SCOTUS REJECTS Trump 20 State Suit, Alex Jones And Michael Malice RETURN

Tim, Ian, Lydia, and Luke host familiar friends Alex Jones and Michael Malice for part 2, with less politics and more aliens.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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alex jones
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michael malice
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tim pool
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tim pool
The Supreme Court has unceremoniously rejected the Texas lawsuit supported by 20 other states against four states that would effectively have overturned the election.
That's the news for the night.
Thanks for tuning in, everybody.
Now let's talk about aliens.
Alex Jones is joining me and Michael Malice.
I'm kidding, we will talk about the SCOTUS stuff, but yes.
Alex Jones is here.
Michael Malice has returned.
They've both returned with a vengeance because the last podcast we did got removed.
And I said, as soon as it got removed, I was like, I hit both.
I reached out to Alex and Michael and said, can you come back on immediately?
And this is the soonest we were able to make it work.
alex jones
So he wanted me on a few days later.
I'm like, absolutely.
I gotta leave town because I didn't have babysitters.
But here we are.
And it's a lot of fun.
That was amazing last time, and I don't have a toothache today, so I am a little bit better than last time.
So thanks for having me.
tim pool
Yeah, right on.
And Michael, of course, singing out.
michael malice
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Yes!
alex jones
I am a gorilla.
Murder yourselves.
tim pool
What is that from?
michael malice
It's a meme they made of us in that video.
tim pool
Oh, they did?
michael malice
It was really funny.
tim pool
There's also a picture of you going like this with a tinfoil hat.
Oh my gosh.
So earlier, I think Luke posted this photo.
We had Alex stand in front of the green screen for a few minutes just Saying whatever so we have I'm gonna do it again later cuz I think what you were saying I thought I had to do something as I'm too dense.
alex jones
You're like later No, no, we got some good stuff.
It's you doing different poses then I got it.
tim pool
So I was a little bit Andreas was chillin over he wants to make videos of like music videos of you dancing and stuff Can I ask you one question?
alex jones
Because you do the live streams.
I've been kicked off YouTube for a few years, so I get to live vicariously through you.
I watch your show all the time.
I knew Radowsky was here.
I've been watching him all week at your house.
But I'm sitting there trying to figure this out.
It had 900,000 and something views that night.
The next day, it was still 900,000 views.
Then it goes to like 1,000,003,000 and then goes away.
So how does that work when you obviously we had 3 or 4 million views?
tim pool
We actually had a total of like 2.3 million.
michael malice
Is that right?
tim pool
Yeah, 2.3 million.
michael malice
So I feel like Newsmax.
alex jones
But Newsmax wishes they had that.
Their top show is at 200,000.
I'm not knocking them, but that's what I'm saying.
You guys are like, oh, YouTube, don't ban us.
We worship you.
The goddamn show's got millions of viewers.
It's bigger than Tucker Carlson.
That's what I'm saying.
They've got us eating out of their hand when we bring the whole game to them.
tim pool
I don't think they care.
I think they want to be Netflix.
They want us to sit here.
michael malice
Bourgeois respectability.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And listen, when they just issued this, YouTube made this ruling where they said you can't make claims about Trump and fraud or whatever, the report they put out was actually about their advertisers.
They didn't care about fraud or anything.
They're just like, look advertisers, we're doing really nice for you.
Please don't pull your ads off our platform.
alex jones
No, and I agree.
So we had a discussion before we went live, which I don't even want to go into because I want to move on from the election and cover other stuff.
Because I'm typecast to always only cover the current political stuff.
I'd rather cover the big classic conspiracy stuff.
We're going to do that tonight.
tim pool
Aliens.
alex jones
This is processed.
Texas filed a suit saying that the legislatures of these other five states did not pass a law to take mail-in ballots and so it was mute.
Well, the Supreme Court just threw it out.
Big defeat of Trump.
We should be able to look at that, give our opinion.
Does it mean we're the Supreme Court?
And that's it.
Everyone knows it's our opinion.
Let the public judge that.
But then we're all pins and needles.
Well, I mean, do we say it's a fraud?
We say it's not.
No, there's no been proven fraud in a court.
That's true.
So, but again, how do we not even like walk around on eggshells around the edge of that?
tim pool
You can't even give your personal opinion.
Well, I mean, you can, but if it's an unacceptable opinion, you're gone.
So they pulled down Scott Adams.
You guys see this?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Scott Adams had his video pulled down.
I don't even know what he said.
But he's, look, he's got his bombastic moment.
alex jones
He's very centrist, though.
tim pool
But I think he's very calm.
He's pretty liberal.
alex jones
Non-threatening.
tim pool
Yeah, and tame.
They took one of his videos down, sent him an email saying, you're gone.
alex jones
And that's the crazy part is, when they ban something you do, or they ban you, you never know what it is.
And then once they've banned you, I've experienced this, then they can say whatever they want.
Like, Jones won't quit saying this.
And most of the time, I never even said that.
But it doesn't matter.
I have no voice.
And so they can say it.
michael malice
Let's give another example.
Sorry.
Like, Laura Loomer, right?
She got banned everywhere.
Like, she became the nominee for, I think, the 21st district in Florida.
The day she won the primary as the Republican nominee, they changed the rules.
And they didn't say, except for Laura Loomer, they said, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they frame it in such a way that you dig the road.
unidentified
Right.
michael malice
Just to have this person on the far side.
alex jones
It's gerrymandered.
michael malice
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
One thing they've consistently done.
michael malice
That's exactly right.
tim pool
They say that, oh, this person was manipulated using other accounts to manipulate things that they won't prove and you can't defend yourself against.
So I guess you can call it defamation, but it never gets anywhere.
Twitter just says, oh, we banned them because they were operating multiple accounts behind the scenes.
unidentified
Well, exactly.
alex jones
They call it, well, here's how the thing happens.
I know lots of people I talk to later go, yeah, I've been on your show before, but they banned my account saying I work for you.
I've only talked to you like twice.
So these people are getting banned because they're telling them you work for Alex Jones just because they promoted something I was doing.
It's very, very frightening.
But here's what's more frustrating.
I just want to say this up front.
I'm not running away from Trump, but the media acts like I got some bonanza supporting Trump.
I got sued, persecuted, and banned.
I'll have more listeners with Joe Biden then.
It's not like I'm like in some Trump cult, but they made me the Trump cult leader.
And so they won't let me not be that.
michael malice
That's what I'm saying is... They made an example out of you.
alex jones
Exactly.
michael malice
Because you can to some extent afford it, but this is telling everyone else, you're next.
You stay in line.
Do you really want, do you want to be a hero?
You got a family.
You got kids.
We're going to come for his job.
alex jones
That's it.
They 100% made me an example.
And what I'm telling people is in the process, I'm a tough guy.
I can handle it.
I was the formula for everybody else, where once they do platform you, they can, so let me give the threats for him.
It's not that you've been shut up.
It's that they can say whatever they want about you.
They can misquote you and you cannot respond.
You're like frozen in the Phantom Zone, like General Zod, and they're out flying around and whatever they want.
michael malice
But at a certain point, check it out with this Hunter Biden stuff.
tim pool
They suppressed the story heavily.
michael malice
Oh, this really grinds my gears.
alex jones
Are we allowed to go here?
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
I snapped as much as Tim Pool can.
You know, I got mad because we went through Big Tech banning the story.
Twitter literally shut down the New York Post reporting on this huge story that Hunter Biden was crooked.
And these emails were coming out showing that even, like, Joe was facilitating this with the flight on Air Force Two.
And they say it's all fake news.
It's all Russian disinfo.
They refuse to report, refuse to cover it.
alex jones
They don't debug any of it.
They just say it's not real.
tim pool
And then one month after the election, what do they do?
What a politically explosive story we just just got out!
alex jones
Attorney General blocked it.
It turns out Barr blocked it during the election.
Exactly.
michael malice
And then it becomes, well, if it was real, average people, if it was real, how come I never heard about it?
tim pool
Exactly.
alex jones
But that's why... Well, you've heard the Hunter Biden tapes.
I mean, they don't deny they're real.
He's like, literally, I met with the head of communist Chinese intelligence.
The Southern District's going to indict me.
My daddy's scared.
I mean, these are real tapes.
And we're like, Twitter's like, it's fake, blocking it, and now it's all confirmed to be real.
michael malice
And I'm going to put on my Alex Jones tinfoil hat.
You guys saw Project Veritas, James O'Keefe, Jeff Zucker was the head of CNN, they found his audio, they leaked it.
The guy who's the political director of CNN, I forget the guy's name, he had been at Yahoo News.
He was fired from Yahoo News because he said, hot mic, got caught with a hot mic, that Mitt Romney doesn't care if there's a pool full of African-American kids who drowned.
They're rewarded for lying!
When someone says something that outrageous, they're not driven out of town.
Now he runs CNN's political department.
These people always fail up.
They do not have consequences for their depravity and malfeasance.
tim pool
It is the revolving door.
And I keep...
michael malice
The incentives are there, correct.
tim pool
Well, I can explain it to you because I work for these companies.
Let me break it down for you.
There are always people who say, if you publish a fake story, you'll lose your job.
Look at these guys at CNN, they got fired, right?
And I say, right now, there are two guys who worked at BuzzFeed.
One guy was caught plagiarizing, one guy was spying on a rival news organization, and then what happens now?
They both got rehired at other big firms.
There is a guy who I worked with, Who killed a huge story about the New York Times manipulating content, and now he works at the New York Times.
It's a revolving door.
And you know why they like the liars?
There's no grand conspiracy between the editors of these companies going, we need to find a bunch of liars.
It's them seeing someone write a story that benefits them going, I like stories that benefit me.
Hire the person who writes things that make me look good.
michael malice
It's all about responding to intentions.
alex jones
They all go along with the system.
michael malice
Yeah, right, because it's evolutionary.
They'll get weeded out.
The idea that you can gaybait someone like Joy and Reed back in the day and just have these really nasty kind of like a little innuendos if you look them up, they're really offensive.
tim pool
She claims she was hacked.
michael malice
And then you say you're going to call the FBI.
If someone calls the FBI over something they did, this person should be facing legal consequences.
Instead, she gets a promotion.
And that's what I think is increasingly the case with the average American, when they realize these people are not playing by the same rules that even remotely port to anything I understand.
tim pool
It was Brian Williams?
michael malice
Who was he?
alex jones
Shot down in a helicopter.
tim pool
And they were like, just move him to MSNBC, I guess, because you know what they did?
But you know why?
So he was on, what, NBC News, right?
Was that Brian Williams?
And then once they realized that he was making things up, they were like, well, who would be more willing to accept made-up things?
alex jones
MSNBC.
tim pool
Hyper-partisan leftists watching MSNBC.
So they moved him over and he carries on.
Are you guys familiar with the Gell-Man amnesia effect?
No.
Michael R. No. So this is, the name was made up to sound funny by this like
academic.
The idea is you're reading a newspaper on the front page it says something in
which you are an expert like it would say Michael Malastare.
michael malice
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
tim pool
So you'll be like that's not true but then you turn the page you see a story
about someone else you go wow I didn't know that.
You forget they lied.
So you have these people who seemingly don't remember that Brian Williams literally was making things up and going around and admitted it and they put him on MSNBC and people are just clapping along and cheering for it.
alex jones
Because there's that quote credibility.
He's like, yes, I was a helicopter shot down by an RPG.
Well, I remember that wrong.
You know, you'd remember whether you were shot down in a helicopter.
tim pool
Look at Joe Biden in the 80s.
When he was taking the life stories of other people.
alex jones
Well, how did that change?
Because he was running for president and then he had to resign in the middle of it.
And from the campaign, he said, I did this to myself.
I'm sorry, it's wrong.
Basically destroyed his career, but it's not.
He's about to be the president probably.
And he literally would just take whole, well, he would take the Kennedy stories.
Whatever the Kennedy said about themselves, he would composite JFK, RFK and others into his life story and just repeat total lies.
But back then he had to step down.
Today, like you said, there's so much information that it is like a form of amnesia because they don't remember.
People don't remember.
ian crossland
This Tara Reade thing, just like, was here and gone.
How could people forget about that?
tim pool
Because the media, they memory hold it.
They were like, it's bad for Biden, get it out of there.
It's a right-wing conspiracy theory.
michael malice
Here's something I think I'm the first person to break, and I'm going to break it here.
I read, I got paid $1,000 to read Kamala Harris' book.
And in that book, she makes the claim, when she was running for either Attorney General or Senator, I think it was Attorney General from California, that a Democratic operative got on stage with her at UC Santa Cruz, somewhere else, and said, no one in Kamala, and especially from loony San Francisco, is going to get elected statewide in California.
First of all, after Barack Obama, that's absurd.
Second of all, California isn't going to elect a woman with a weird name.
No one, and this story is in various organizations, political, they all repeated it, which she was obviously the source.
unidentified
I try to look up This would be a huge backlash.
michael malice
If anyone said this to anyone, like with a name like that you can't get elected, you would think that person would be cancelled immediately.
They've never fact-checked it, and it's nowhere online other than from her.
And because they don't care!
tim pool
They're PR firms.
Was it Matt Brainerd who said that?
unidentified
It was Will.
tim pool
It was Will Wolf, are you sure?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm sure.
tim pool
Said that the news organizations are PR firms?
unidentified
Will talks a lot about how he really hates how everything now is PR.
tim pool
Pretty sure that was Matt Brainerd.
Who said the New York Times is effectively a PR firm.
They both said it.
unidentified
I've heard it a couple times in the last few days.
ian crossland
It seems like it's been propaganda the whole way down since the inception of human history except for little bouts of freedom like the American Revolution when they didn't have a central bank for a short period of time before the United States got re-co-opted.
tim pool
Who was the president who shut down the first one?
Was that Jackson?
alex jones
That was Andrew Jackson.
He said, I killed the bank.
All I know is you've got an incredible steakhouse down the street.
ian crossland
And they tried to kill the guy.
tim pool
Oh, is that?
Well, we shouldn't say what it is.
So let's do this.
Let's do this.
Because we're definitely getting ahead.
alex jones
Here in Missouri.
ian crossland
Aliens.
unidentified
Here in Missouri.
That's right.
tim pool
Here in Missouri.
I just want to read you guys what's happened with the Texas court case.
Because I know we're going to open this.
alex jones
This is a big deal.
tim pool
Check it out, so I got the actual filing here from SupremeCourt.gov.
They say, Texas v. Pennsylvania, the state of Texas's motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article 3 of the Constitution.
Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts elections.
All other pending motions are dismissed as moot.
Statement of Justice Alito, with whom Justice Thomas joins, Quote, in my view, we do not have discretion to deny the filing of Bill of Complaint in a case that falls within our general jurisdiction.
See Arizona v. California, 589 U.S.
I would therefore grant the motion to file the Bill of Complaint, but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue.
And then they also note Goldman Sachs v. A.R.
Teacher Retirement, Satori was granted.
I don't know what that case is, but it's kind of funny to see Goldman Sachs versus the Teacher Retirement.
I'll say this, I'm not going to just give people positive news.
alex jones
I mean, I think clearly there have been anomalies, there's been problems with accepting these 80 million mailed out ballots.
That was the Democrat strategy, they said.
We're going to hold up this election.
There's going to be a red mirage where it looks like Trump wins.
We're going to be counting for months.
And even if he looks like he wins, we will not accept his inauguration.
We are going to have our own inauguration.
That's what John Podesta said in the New York Times.
All that went on.
As soon as Trump has a problem, he says, I'm going to challenge this.
Oh, it's terrible.
It's crazy.
And Matthew McConaughey, he said that last week with Russell Brand.
He said, listen, maybe the Republicans are in denial.
Trump lost, whatever.
But to act like it's crazy, for them to challenge this when that's all you did at the
last election, you tried to block the electors, then you said he was a Russian agent, that's a
fraud. So everyone saw that unfold.
But I will just say this, I talked to White House lawyers, I talked to other top constitutional
lawyers, they said the other suits aren't that good, the Texas case is the best. And they said,
if this goes down, it goes from a Hail Mary to a Super Hail Mary.
So I'm not going to sit here and sell people pie in the sky.
I think we've gone to about a 90% chance now that Trump's going to have to capitulate.
michael malice
It's more than 90 because there's no organizational will from the Republicans to do this.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
Well, there was 126 Republicans in the House signed on.
If you can, I mean, look here, I think it's 99.
I've been saying it's 99.9% for Biden for the past, you know,
alex jones
well, you have been, but I mean, isn't that because it's the illusion that he's elect.
He's had the signs up.
He's done it.
And so they finally said he's a Russian agent.
He's going to be gone.
Didn't work.
He's Ukrainian.
He didn't, it didn't work, but finally they use the election as a way to whatever really happened to say Trump's done.
And I, and I, and I think just the perception of all our other elections that somebody wins, somebody loses.
That that's what's gonna happen to Trump. And so the question is
Republicans aren't gonna cry and scream and throw fits in the streets like the left did four years ago like toddlers
But what is gonna happen this country before we went live?
Both you guys were saying you think it really looks at societal historical division and and leading towards some
tim pool
very dangerous a divorce Yeah, I know the first person come here and say that either.
michael malice
I am the first I wrote an article by your ass in April 2016
Saying it's time to disunite the states that we've been held together with thumbtacks and strings since the
beginning There's at least two countries here and we only got held together and one invaded and had occupied the other half.
It's ridiculous that people... David Korn, I think from The Nation, he's a big hardcore cathedral operative.
He was tweeting out, oh, you know, Republicans are trying to destroy democracy and have a coup.
Every election's a coup.
Every election is a lot of people do not want this person.
alex jones
It's electoral war.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
It's all stylized war.
michael malice
Yeah, and because you have more people, therefore I get nothing and I got to sit at home and shut up?
No, I'm not going to do that.
alex jones
No, in a republic, everybody knows this, but I'll say it again for those that don't.
If 51% vote in a constitutional republic to enslave the other 49, you can't have it.
But in a democracy, they had black stones and white stones in ancient Greece, and routinely they would vote to kill somebody, they didn't like what they had to say.
And if 51% said kill you, they did.
In a republic, folks, we protect property, we protect life, we protect self-defense, and we say, hey, there's certain things enshrined you can't do.
tim pool
This may be misattributed to Benjamin Franklin, but the quote is... Fart proudly.
Is it misattributed?
unidentified
Definitely misattributed.
michael malice
No, Benjamin Franklin wrote an essay... A republic, if you can keep it.
Benjamin Franklin wrote an essay about what you should be proud to fart.
I'm not kidding.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Well, anyway, the quote I was going to say is, democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch.
alex jones
They did.
Two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.
tim pool
A republic is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
alex jones
Yeah, I think that he did say that.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Say that again.
I ruined it.
Interrupted it.
tim pool
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what's for lunch.
A republic is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
ian crossland
And republics aren't invulnerable, like the republican oligarchy of Rome was eventually, the military commander just took it over and turned it into an empire.
alex jones
Which is Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon, but it was treason already trying to overthrow the republic that forced him to do that.
I'm not defending Julius Caesar, but it's what I'm saying.
People say, well, General Flynn said we need martial law, and Lin Wood said we need martial law.
And people are like, oh my god, I'm up for martial law, but we're already under blue state, blue city martial law.
tim pool
Yeah, we are.
And so this is something we were actually talking about a couple days ago.
Who brought that up there?
Was it Will, who said we're already under martial law?
I was like, you get these, isn't it, it's crazy to hear people calling for this.
alex jones
These updates on your phone telling you what to do, don't go outside your house.
It's outside regular law, regular law suspended.
michael malice
The first amendment to the Constitution, people know about freedom of speech and religion, it says the right to peaceably assemble.
tim pool
It doesn't say why.
michael malice
Yeah, it says if I'm good, I can get together with people.
There's nothing more peaceful than a holiday dinner with your family, or maybe it's less peaceful.
alex jones
Well, it says Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or the people's right It's like a man raping a woman.
Or a woman raping a man.
michael malice
Or a man raping a man.
alex jones
You don't have jurisdiction.
unidentified
does not have a goddamn jurisdiction. Right and they're just completely
michael malice
brazenly ignoring that. I'll tell you, I'm sorry, if the government can just say well
it's an emergency so we can do what we want then what the heck's the point of the Constitution?
alex jones
It's like a man raping a woman. A man does not, or a woman raping a man, or a man
raping a man. You don't have jurisdiction. You have to agree to it and so literally
this is like rape.
When they say, you don't have a right to go out, but we do, and then they exercise their rights and we don't.
They're doing that on purpose.
tim pool
This is rape.
I think the first and most important thing for people to understand, too, is it's against the science.
The World Health Organization's top doctor came out a while ago and said it's the last of last resorts, and it should be avoided and it can be avoided.
alex jones
The head UN envoy said, Lockdowns, we were wrong.
It's starving millions.
And even Melinda Gates came out yesterday and said, we didn't know this would cause a collapse in millions starving to death.
tim pool
272 million are expected to starve to death in the world in the next year because of the economic collapse.
alex jones
Fact check that, YouTube.
I was saying that 10 months ago.
So what I'm telling you is, The lockdown, whether it's real or exaggerated, whatever it is, is causing, because in the first world, okay, we lose our pension or you don't have as big a house, or maybe you lose a few pounds.
In the third world, a breakdown and lockdown causes starvation and death.
So when the West goes into depression, the third world dies.
And We're talking about real Black Lives Matter here and other lives all over the world.
Poor people are starving to death right now.
michael malice
I think it was Mali or some African country, Malawi, one of those two, where they said, all right, you're going to have a lockdown.
They had no COVID and they go, if we don't farm today, we don't have food tomorrow.
tim pool
That's a good saying.
If we don't farm today, we have no food tomorrow.
alex jones
I don't know if there is... If we don't farm today, we die today, they said.
unidentified
They weren't using it as a... I don't know if they're as pithy as me, because, you know... No, the quote was, if we don't farm, we'll die within a month.
michael malice
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
It's an interesting saying that could apply in any form of war tomorrow.
alex jones
But let me stop interrupting, because I've sped this up.
Start over, Tim.
You start over.
The New York Times, The Washington Post admit, A billion people set to go into total poverty, possible starvation, two million already starved to death, two hundred and something million, I forget the exact number, are on the verge of starvation because of the lockdown, not the damn virus that's only killed a million worldwide.
So let's talk about that.
michael malice
Can I go full Alex Jones?
unidentified
No, but I mean… I'm going to go full Alex Jones.
michael malice
I'm sure you've been talking about this before and you're not the first.
There has been for decades.
That's globalism.
beating the drums for having full-scale wealth distribution from the first world to the third world.
This has been a thing that they've been arguing about for a very long time.
We need to jack up taxes in the European Union.
alex jones
That's globalism, that's the great reason.
michael malice
And now they have a reason.
unidentified
Look, all these people are starting- But they're not really going to give them anything.
michael malice
I know, but this is a great excuse.
alex jones
Oh, you're right.
michael malice
You don't want these people in Africa, you want them to be starving?
alex jones
Michael, the Pope is pushing that.
This is it.
Sorry, go ahead and make your point.
michael malice
That was my point, I agree.
tim pool
Pope Francis is on board with the massive multinational billion-dollar corporations for the Great Reset.
alex jones
But let me start over, because this is so important, and I wasn't even going to go here because it's so serious, but I wanted to have a light-hearted thing about UFOs and stuff, but start over.
You can pull this up as fact check this, because I don't want to get the numbers wrong.
The UN says like 200, in YouTube, I don't have a perfect memory, like 230 something million people.
unidentified
272.
alex jones
Sorry, 272 are about to starve to death.
2 million already starved to death the last 10 months, is what I read the New York Times.
michael malice
2 million?
alex jones
Yeah, like a week ago I read it.
Who knows if that's real?
The point is, is that I know folks who are in the third world, it's bad.
Like you said, I mean, it's bad.
These lockdowns are bad.
So I'm saying, if it kills a hundred times more people having a lockdown, we need to stop this.
This is what kills the whole Malthusian lockdown.
tim pool
And that's very globally, ethically thinking of you, right?
Being concerned about how these other countries are faring because of what they're doing in these countries, right?
I'm saying like, I'm saying it's... No, I agree, they're humans, so it's gonna happen.
If we want, if we want... This is the thing, we often hear that these people, you know, like the Great Reset, which is published on the World Economic Forum website, they're like, we're gonna rethink capitalism and redo this to make it better for everybody, because for too long, this, this, that, and this, and the bad things.
If I actually Like, I don't actually believe these people when they say they're trying to do the right thing.
They're doing right by them.
Exactly.
And it's an excuse.
When the Pope comes out and says MasterCard and Visa and these big companies are going to redo capitalism the right way, I'm like, they're the ones who have exploited it with crony corporatism and revolving door politics.
alex jones
It's like going to Hitler to learn how to fight Nazis.
michael malice
Hitler killed a lot of Nazis, though.
alex jones
Well, I guess you're right.
tim pool
He killed the worst one.
alex jones
He purged his own people.
unidentified
You're right.
alex jones
Okay, touche.
michael malice
And he killed Hitler.
unidentified
That's true, too.
Yeah.
alex jones
You're right.
Okay, sorry.
unidentified
He killed that bastard.
tim pool
The worst one.
alex jones
It's like going to Stalin to learn how... I don't know.
michael malice
Stalin killed Nazis, too.
They were the first ones to ruin.
Alex, come on.
Get it together.
unidentified
Let's go.
michael malice
I thought you were a gorilla.
alex jones
I wasn't going to the Nazi stuff.
I meant... It's like going to a fox to learn how to guard a hen house.
But I guess... There you go.
unidentified
There you go.
alex jones
There's a little fox to learn how to guard the hen house.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
I mean, Fox could probably tell you.
michael malice
Let him keep trying until he gets a good answer.
alex jones
He just said it.
He just said it.
michael malice
But it's cheating when he says it.
alex jones
They're the worst offenders telling us how they're the more authority and then in real practice their lockdown is imploding us and the third world for them to consolidate.
unidentified
I got it.
michael malice
I got it.
tim pool
It's like hiring the Fox to guard your hen house.
alex jones
Yes.
tim pool
Because, truth be told, if you got a hen house and you hire a fox, fox is going to be like, I'll tell you exactly how I broke in.
And you're going to be like, that's a good point.
That's why I got to secure.
If you hire the fox to guard the hen house and you wake up and you got no hens left, you know exactly why.
alex jones
So it goes back to the original saying.
No, it's the fox.
Let's just say this.
It's hiring Satan to stop the devil.
I mean, it's like, they're the guys doing all this, and then we're like, they're like, we're gonna fix the problems, their very policies are destroying and killing people, consolidating power, but they go, it's okay.
tim pool
Did you, did you see the Pineapple Hill video?
Pineapple Hill Cafe?
alex jones
Oh yeah, California.
michael malice
What's this?
tim pool
This is a woman, and she's outside of her restaurant.
michael malice
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
She's got this, we've brought up a million times.
alex jones
By the way, we've talked to her, we can air this, she'll let you air it.
I mean, we should play it, go ahead and tell people.
tim pool
She talks about how they have an outdoor dining area.
It's a big gazebo tent and picnic tables.
alex jones
She shows it.
tim pool
She shows it.
The state said unacceptable.
Can't open.
50 feet away is food services for Hollywood production.
Same exact setup.
Totally okay.
unidentified
Well, let's be clear.
tim pool
Hold on.
Hold on.
alex jones
She separates the tables more.
They have these huge tents 50 feet away like you said.
tim pool
But what did she say in the video?
Everything I own is being stolen from me.
The World Economic Forum published a great reset video, I think it was four years ago.
alex jones
Four years.
tim pool
And they said in 2030 you will own nothing and you will be happy.
alex jones
Sorry, you're right.
tim pool
So when we see all of these things, that the end result is stripping away ownership rights of the poor, but the rich are doing better than ever.
Think about who's doing it.
alex jones
Big Tech's making record profit.
That's the thing.
The middle class is being disenfranchised.
The poor is being starved to death.
The third world's being killed.
And the people doing it are going, I'm so liberal.
Look, the Pope's on our side.
We love you.
We're going to lock everything down for a couple more years, all right?
And you're like, and when everything implodes, we're going to put you all on a universal income and make you take vaccines to get the money.
tim pool
Do you see what Joe Biden's plan is for COVID?
alex jones
No.
michael malice
Is it to crap his pants?
unidentified
100 days of a mask and... It's basically what we've already been doing.
michael malice
Yeah, Scott added me at that point.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
So he's like, if everybody just wear a mask, it'd be done.
it's like but the the we've been wearing masks for 10 months but their argument is some people
alex jones
It's their fault.
But Sweden has the studies.
Others have the studies.
Mainline scientists.
They go, well, it's not the UN scientists.
Well, wait.
The U.N.
said lock everything down 10 months ago.
They did it.
Now the U.N.
says we were wrong.
Don't lock things down.
It's causing a chain reaction, but still the bureaucracies do it.
And then the other scientists say the masks don't protect you.
Well, whether it's true or not, those scientists have a right to a voice to say that.
tim pool
I was told by YouTube that as long as we adhere to what the World Health Organization says, we're good.
And if you go against the World Health Organization, you're spreading disinformation.
Then a top World Health Organization scientist came out and said, lockdowns are bad and we should not do them.
So what am I supposed to say now?
Because the governors are doing the opposite of what the World Health Organization told us to do and what I'm supposed to be allowed to talk about.
alex jones
So that's a question to both of you.
Why are they...
The British came out yesterday, the British government said, okay, we're suspending shots for under 16, for pregnant women and people that have any type of allergies because we're having, you know, Bell's palsy.
tim pool
And it can only be administered in a facility with resuscitation measures readily available.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So I'm not, listen, listen, when I tweeted that, I had people calling me an anti-vaxxer and I'm like, I am tweeting you the NHS's official publicly declared statement to keep people safe.
alex jones
So that's my question.
tim pool
What are you criticizing?
alex jones
That's what I'm saying.
What's the paradox here?
Whether like, oh, sorry, we've suspended the Australian shots for false positive HIV test.
And now oh, we're suspending the shots because it's hurting people.
And then we're still full of crap.
No, the truth is, vaccines have always had pros and cons.
And when you accelerate, my biggest criticism of Trump was him getting on board with warp speed and going, Oh, you want two years?
I'll do it in six months.
And now this stuff's killing people.
You want to get on Trump's ass?
There it is right there.
But now the left won't do that.
Remember just during the campaign?
tim pool
Are there actually deaths?
I think there's side effects.
alex jones
Well, no.
What they argue is, they go, in all these deaths in Europe, in the UK, in Australia, the big pharma runs it, so they go, well, we had six people die in this study, and four die in that study, and two die in this study, but we're saying we can't prove they died from the vaccine.
tim pool
I need hard data on that stuff.
alex jones
You can pull it up.
tim pool
You can make that all day.
Just the important thing is, I think, letting people know the very, very specific government statements about anaphylaxis and Bell's palsy.
These things are coming from the NHS.
alex jones
Well, let me give you some real headlines.
Let's do this.
59 die in South Korea after flu shot.
Pull it up.
OK, let's pull up another headline.
This is just this week.
This is this week.
Here's another headline.
I mean, there's so many of these.
Forty seven homeless die after being given flu shot.
Poland.
I mean, these are all real headlines.
This is I see this in the news feed AP Reuters, but it's never a big national news story.
It's like they cover the fine print.
OK, we're admitting it.
But here it is.
And it just comes up and it comes out.
michael malice
This is right.
tim pool
Well, so I'm trying to find a Microsoft-approved source, because you love Newsguard so much.
unidentified
Oh, scroll down, cdc.gov.
alex jones
I love Bill Gates.
ian crossland
You've got to make sure it's Newsguard.
tim pool
Well, so, I don't know how we... I actually had a plan for segwaying into Aliens, because it was supposed to not get too serious.
Like, we've got to talk about this SCOTUS stuff.
ian crossland
Aliens are real.
alex jones
But... But let's hit this.
Why did today, or yesterday now, in Australia, why did they stop nationwide all their vaccinations, their government-approved vaccine, which is an mRNA vaccine that goes into your very DNA, because the people that take it are having false positives, they hope they're false positives, for HIV?
tim pool
Now, I told- So this is the New York Times, by the way, that Alex is citing here.
Australia scraps COVID-19 vaccine that produced HIV false positives.
michael malice
Wow.
tim pool
Right.
ian crossland
And this is the T cell count?
michael malice
That's what happened, guys.
I took a COVID-19 vaccine.
That's why I had that positive test result.
tim pool
Of the dozens of coronavirus vaccines being tested worldwide, the one under development at the University of Queensland was the first to be abandoned.
ian crossland
Dude, they rushed this thing so fast.
michael malice
But I gotta tell you, Trump did.
Trump did.
tim pool
Operation Warp Speed.
alex jones
No, I mean, I've said this.
Trump's biggest thing is how he said, oh, I'll unlock the economy.
I'll warp speed it.
And I tried to, like, halfway try to figure out, maybe he's trying to take control from the Rockefellers and from Gates, and he wants to have the regular vaccine that isn't as dangerous, that actually just takes the antenna-weighted virus.
And no, he pushed the MRNA, and I'm not turning on Trump now that he's in trouble.
I've been criticizing him for months, eight months.
The MRNA vaccine is a new form of vaccine.
It goes in and reprograms the cells.
It's a mutagen.
Normally, you only have this in your body when you have cancer or when you're a baby and your mother growing.
So this goes in and program cells to actually mutate.
And so I'm like, what's going on?
Why are they doing this?
This is insane.
michael malice
This is how the Ninja Turtles happened.
tim pool
Well, that was, uh, actually, the Ninja Turtles was the chemical that was being shipped in, um, through an alleyway that spilled into, what's his face's eyes?
michael malice
Splinter.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
michael malice
Baxter Stockton?
tim pool
Murdoch.
Matthew Murdoch.
Is that his name?
Daredevil.
michael malice
So, yeah.
alex jones
You guys understand, though.
I mean, you guys understand.
tim pool
Totally just off the rails with that.
Listen, listen, listen.
alex jones
Right now, as we know this, any of this you can pull up.
Wolfgang Wodarg is the head elected global commission EU science advisor.
Like, he's the good Fauci.
He got with over 100 scientists.
One of them was the former science head of Pfizer.
They filed suit in the EU on December 1st and said, we've looked at the studies on the mRNA Pfizer vaccine alone, and it'll either turn your immune system off and drop T cells down to zero, because these huge papers they attach, it's like, I don't know, it's hieroglyphics, but these were like procedure scientists, or it'll jack it up and cause a cytokine storm.
And it looks like it attacks the placenta in women because the same protein in this virus is the same protein that's fast growing in the placenta.
And they said it looks like it might give people HIV.
That was six, seven days ago, dude!
I'm not a scientist.
I read the paper, and six, seven days later, it's in the New York Times that is giving people false positive HIV.
So here's the deal.
Fact check this.
I don't know what's going on, but I'm scared.
michael malice
Let's play devil's advocate.
If you have a vaccine that cures a potentially deadly virus, and the consequences, like your AIDS test, aren't going to be reliable for a few months, is that really that bad of a side effect?
alex jones
But why is it?
Because the original, when the Indian scientist in March, late February, their main Indian technical institute, the only Indian school, you know, they got good scientists that bought the CRISPRs.
It's worth billions of dollars.
They have a multi-billion dollar CRISPR gene editing reader, electron microscope.
michael malice
A CRISPR?
What's a CRISPR?
tim pool
Gene editing.
alex jones
Gene editing.
I don't understand.
I read this stuff.
They said, hey, this is a very dangerous chimera, five viruses, HIV delivery system.
And they said it's not, it's not, it's not naturally occurring.
It's synthetic.
tim pool
Who said that?
alex jones
This is the top Indian university.
They said it's got, it's got gene edited P shuttle gene where they cut this in and they go so complex.
It's above anything we've even got.
This is like secret level stuff.
Of course it came out of the U.S.
Chapel Hill, Obama, Fauci five, six years ago.
It was illegal in the U.S.
They moved it to Wuhan.
They even came out in Newsweek and pull it up.
Fauci funded, we heard it last time, Fauci funded It's North Carolina or South Carolina.
Yes, yes, secretly legal gain-of-function stuff, North Carolina.
Fauci funded controversial gain-of-function Wuhan lab.
And so the Indians scanned it, then the Germans scanned it, then the Australians scanned it.
And then others scanned it.
And I had Dr. Francis Boyle on my show today, the guy that wrote the U.S.
Biological Weapons Law and helped write the U.N.
Treaty.
He's the head lawyer.
He prosecuted Slobodan Milošević.
He's like a head U.N.
prosecutor.
And he said, no, the Australians, he was just on Australian TV yesterday on their national TV, on Sky TV.
They reverse engineered off the CRISPR scan and made this new vaccine.
And so when they copied it and made a vaccine out of it, that's why HIV shows up.
This is a copy of the COVID, which has been attenuated.
tim pool
A bit esoteric for me.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I can tell you about just like the surface level.
One of the reasons why I think it's important to talk about the UK's warning on like people under 16 and you know- Because that's confirmed, that's not available.
But it's just to get people like, listen, listen, this is an official thing.
You know, I'm not saying this to scare anybody.
I'm trying to make sure you know exactly what the National Health Service is telling people.
They're going to be proving it in the US.
Take this up into consideration and judge for yourself.
But these are like official health warnings.
alex jones
Why is the British government one week into giving the shot?
One week into giving the shot, why are they suddenly saying under 16 don't take it?
Have an allergic response, don't take it.
Pregnant, don't take it.
Why are they backtracking?
ian crossland
Because this is the trial.
They're experimenting.
This is the human trial right now.
tim pool
We're going through it.
But I think it's a little bit of an exaggeration.
It's not necessarily an exaggeration.
It's this whole thing was rushed through to the point where we didn't go through years of trials where they could have controlled groups.
michael malice
It's the Russians.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
alex jones
And what does Han Solo say?
tim pool
No, they rushed it.
alex jones
They rushed it, so now... Remember Luke Skywalker says, at the rate they're gaining, with the Star Destroyers chasing them off Kantoine when they fly off from Los Isley?
He says, hurry up!
He goes, too fast, kid.
You bounce off a star, a supernova, that'll end your trick real quick.
Wow.
So we've gone at warp speed, and we've actually run into a supernova here.
tim pool
Star Wars, man.
So do you think aliens are real?
unidentified
Yeah.
Smooth transition.
tim pool
Such a smooth segue.
alex jones
Listen, let's finish up.
I butchered that.
tim pool
No, you're right.
ian crossland
We need to calculate where we're going before we hit warp drive.
tim pool
Yeah.
Reminds me.
Was it the original Star Wars where they're like, if you warp from here, you might crash into something.
ian crossland
Is that what you're talking about?
alex jones
Luke Skywalker's like, why aren't we going quicker?
The Stardust.
He goes, dude, we got to calculate the nav computer or we'll go too close to a store or bounce off a supernova and we're dead.
tim pool
That'll end your trip real quick.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, I forget the exact quote.
But I mean, that's what like Trump's like warp speed with no direction.
And then he gets blamed with all the shit that happened.
Sorry.
ian crossland
I wonder if we talked about it last time a little bit that some people look at humanity or humans as a liability and that some people think like we can survive with this gross population.
We can keep growing it and growing it and we'll figure out ways to sustain.
Other people are like, it's too many people.
We have to just assume there's going to be calculated losses.
Let's move forward.
alex jones
And what you're saying is that we're all here having normal debates about life and friends being normal.
The globalists, it's all about, do we exterminate most of the people to save the earth or do we have this expansionist view?
And within that is the debate of the Malthusian system or the Plato system of call the public versus the laissez-faire expansionist system.
And there's those two debates at the highest levels.
And the globalist exterminist view is gaining the fore and is the dominant world system.
tim pool
Who made the Georgia Guidestones?
alex jones
Ted Turner is actually on record funding those.
tim pool
You want to do it?
So my friends, my friends.
We have a gift from Luke Rutkowski.
He's actually sitting in the room.
He's just chilling.
But it's a game called... My husband.
It's a game called... That's right.
Well, I thought he was your kid, but anyway.
There's a card game, it's a trivia game, and there's a bunch of different conspiracy theory trivia questions, so Michael actually has a bunch of the cards.
I'm gonna tell everybody exactly what the plan was when we were gonna do this.
So when Alex and I were talking after the last episode got pulled from YouTube, We were on the phone and Alex mentioned that the air has been sucked out of the room, and that, where's the opportunity to talk about, you know, DMT, aliens, space programs, and all that fun conspiracy stuff that, like, we got so entrenched in politics, and I was like, dude, I agree!
Let's, let's, and then...
alex jones
Joe Rogan told me he was going to do that.
I love Joe.
I get in his studio, his interrogation.
You know what happened?
tim pool
You know what happened?
Alex walks in and then I look at my tweet and it's like SCOTUS rules against taxes and I'm like, oh dude.
michael malice
Maybe we gotta talk about this.
It could be the elves that want us to talk about them.
alex jones
And you can't because current events are so crazy like they're suspended the Australian because COVID vaccine because of HIV.
unidentified
That's weird.
tim pool
That's the New York Times.
I pulled it up.
It's in the New York Times.
alex jones
I woke up at like 5 a.m.
this morning and I saw that headline.
tim pool
Alex, I gotta stop you.
I'm gonna tell you something that's gonna blow your mind.
alex jones
Alright.
tim pool
Do you know what Monday is?
alex jones
No.
tim pool
Monday is December 14th.
You know what happens on December 14th?
alex jones
On the 15th, they're going to start certifying the electors.
tim pool
That's the 14th.
On the 14th, they do the electors' vote.
We're also going to have a meteor shower, a full solar eclipse, and a comet.
alex jones
See how I guessed it?
I thought it was the 15th.
tim pool
Within the 14th and 21st, we are going to see the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn creating the Christmas star.
alex jones
Only ever, 800 years.
tim pool
So I'm not a superstitious person.
alex jones
No, the globalists are obsessed with planetary alignments.
tim pool
But everything that's happening, there's no orchestration behind the fact that the meteor shower and the comet are coming on this day.
michael malice
That's what they want you to believe, Tim Foole.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
We live in an electric universe.
michael malice
Tim Foole.
tim pool
I just read the news.
Isn't it crazy, though?
alex jones
The Romans wouldn't go to war unless Mars was in the right, like Neil.
Well, as soon as Mars came around, whatever, they would, like, go to war.
So, I mean, every culture was obsessed with the planets.
ian crossland
Have you heard of the Electric Universe Theory?
That all forces are actually magnetism?
Gravity's, like, a resonating frequency of magnetism?
alex jones
Well, it's as above, so below.
The alchemy is everything is a model of below it and above it.
And so everything's connected somehow in the same models over and over again.
ian crossland
Definitely.
It seems like an atom looks like a solar system.
You know, you have a central nuclei with orbiting electrons.
alex jones
As above, so below.
tim pool
Do you guys remember that viral video of the young woman?
The grape lady?
unidentified
Who?
michael malice
The grape lady.
tim pool
Grape lady?
Who's that?
michael malice
That was like the first viral video.
alex jones
No, no, no, no.
Fat woman on a treadmill.
tim pool
About a month.
A dancing baby, I believe, was one of the verses.
There's a young woman, and she's doing this TikTok video, and she's like, Biden is having accesses in his seventh house, and this means he's gonna win.
And the peak period, it's like this crazy astrology stuff.
Well, Biden ended up, you know, at least winning as far as where we're at right now.
But she says the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction is coming.
It's a once in an 800-year cycle.
And this means a dramatic change to the system of ruling in the United States.
ian crossland
You know, I bring up magnetic universe because if the orbiting structure of all of this is magnetic and our brains have magnetic neurons and our stomachs have magnetic neurons, we're being Well, that's how birds and bees know to fly thousands of miles off magnetic lines.
alex jones
They now have proven we have magnetic cells in our brains.
ian crossland
And we're probably acting like those hordes of bees, just if you zoomed out far enough and could look at it functionally, you'd see us.
We mass in these cities, like arterial... You have a question?
Combination?
michael malice
Hey Alex, performing a terrible act that is publicly blamed on another organization or country is called what?
alex jones
A false flag.
michael malice
That's correct.
tim pool
Yes.
What does he get for answering the question correctly?
michael malice
Uh, you get a Mountain Dew.
tim pool
How about some of that, uh, what do you got there?
michael malice
Oh, no, that's stuff for later.
alex jones
Oh, okay.
michael malice
Give us another one, Mike.
tim pool
Questions?
Oh, Mike?
ian crossland
Michael, my love.
michael malice
I guess we're friends now.
tim pool
I legitimately am bringing up this, like, weird stars phenomenon.
Is it just people making a joke about the day the Electoral College is being certified?
That the meteor shower?
ian crossland
I don't think there are any coincidences.
tim pool
The once-in-800-year Jupiter-Saturn conjunction?
The planets are going to come together, aligned, creating one bright star.
It's the planets, but you'll see a bright light in the sky.
Bigger than you've ever seen in 800 years.
alex jones
You ever seen that movie Master and Commander?
tim pool
No, I haven't.
alex jones
Pretty good movie, but it's based on a...
O'Brien novel but which is based on real naval histories of England but they've got this guy on board they're having bad luck and as soon as he's dead they throw him overboard the wind comes back and the ship can go on and he looks over at the ship's doctor and he says Maturin not everything's in your books and so there's just a lot of weird interconnected stuff in the universe that we can all pick up on we know is going on but there's no way to quantify it because our sight is so you know the whole light spectrum we barely see one point on it yeah plus there's all these other dimensions We're basically these blind creatures only seeing a very limited deal.
So we're only picking up how the rest of it operates.
tim pool
I was talking to, uh, I'm gonna be very vague on this, but let me, I'll just say, you know, after we did the show last time, cause we, we talked about the elves and, and, you know, DMT and stuff.
alex jones
Machine elves.
tim pool
Yeah.
That is the right word.
And I was talking to Michael afterwards and I told him about a very specific coincidence.
I don't want to name because it could give away some personal details.
But I mentioned like some weird thing happened where some numbers aligned in a very strange
way at like the exact same time.
You remember what I...
Yeah.
And it was really, really, really...
I guess what do you call it, serendipitous?
That's not the right word.
That's the right word.
Is it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Weird things, very, very weird things.
And it seems like throughout my life at least, in my anecdotal, you know, experience, there
have been weird things that pop up from time to time.
Not in a great number of times to the point where I'd become superstitious or religious.
Other people have these weird things happen all the time.
alex jones
Listen, I have dreams.
Because I've had a lot of political success and all that stuff.
People ask me, how am I successful?
I go with what I think is right.
But I have had dreams and they're dreams I always have.
I get really sweaty.
I get upset.
I hardly ever have a weird dream where I wake up like anxiety attack, like I've been somewhere else.
When I was younger, it happened more, which is what all the literature says.
You're more psychic when you're young.
You're more attuned to the universe because you get more control over yourself.
As you get older, you learn to block out the universe.
But I've had dreams that exactly come true.
And it's always like a car wreck.
being mugged someone dying and then you're I mean I've told people about this stuff and then later seen it's not like I had some one left side right side deja vu or one side sees it first the other side sees it you go wait I've already seen that this is stuff where I've said hey a guy in a purple and green striped shirt shirt pulls a knife out and stabs me in the arm and I beat his brains out.
michael malice
Wait that happened in real life?
alex jones
Yeah, and then like a few months later, Was that a dream?
It was a dream.
I kept waking up having it like sweating.
And then I'm buying beer when I'm like 16 for girls.
And we're in Dallas, and we're buying beer illegally in the bad part of town.
And then we're parked in the back liquor store.
And so I come back around on this and this white hobo guy in the same shirt attacks me stabs me in the arm.
I beat his brains out whole nine yards.
michael malice
Do you have a scar?
alex jones
Yeah.
michael malice
The point is, What noise did you just make?
What?
What noise did you just make?
What was that gorilla noise?
I had a lot of scars.
alex jones
But the point is I've had that dream like it was nauseating because I got when I had those psychic dreams like I've been to another dimension like I time-traveled like I folded space and I would wake up and I never have these dreams hardly ever but I know if I wake up and I'm sweating and I start puking like I've been to another dimension it's always in the future and it's heavy man.
tim pool
What about you, Michael?
michael malice
I think the way it's been explained to me, like, if I write down these three numbers, 13, 9, 3, and 8, right, it's not going to mean anything to anyone, it's just like random numbers, but if I go through the alphabet and I tell you that the thirteenth of the alphabet is M, and the ninth letter of the alphabet is I, and the third letter is C, and the eighth letter is H, the next in the series would be A, my name, Michael, which would be a 1.
unidentified
Right.
michael malice
So, if you knew this code, You would be able to figure out, predict the next thing in the pattern, but that pattern had been there latently the whole time.
Even if you never knew about it, it still would have flowed automatically.
So when you take these kind of substances, is my understanding, you are perceiving patterns that other people are oblivious to.
And here's a perfectly rational example of this.
tim pool
You're talking about DMT?
michael malice
Or LSD?
alex jones
LSD, all of it.
michael malice
Here's another very simple example everyone understands, which is stock market traders, right?
If I know the market and I see this BMW stock should be $40, but it's trading at $30, I know, okay, this is a buy, it's going to go up.
Whereas if you don't know the stock market, these numbers aren't going to mean anything to you.
So it's about different forms of knowledge and being able to perceive information.
And just like one last point, everyone knows this.
If you look around this room, you see there's four of us here, there's a bunch of people over there, there's spooky ghosts, but we tune out so much.
alex jones
That's where I was going.
It's an evolutionary development as a baby that we can only see a narrow light spectrum and not the electromagnetic because we're filtering it out because we can't handle it.
As we get older, we learn spiritually or through the pineal and all the rest of it to start engaging more of it, but then a lot of folks go crazy Because interfacing with that is too much.
Why?
Because we have an evolutionary development to block it out.
tim pool
You said there were ghosts?
michael malice
That's a joke.
tim pool
I was like, you can see them too?
alex jones
Let me tell you an insider training story.
This isn't like Martha Stewart.
You'll hear a super big story.
It'll be a big story.
tim pool
Ghost story?
alex jones
No, but I'll tell you a story.
Joe Rogan is a great guy.
I've known him 22 years.
He calls me up like six months ago.
And he goes, yeah, I made the decision to go to Spotify, don't tell anybody for about three months.
And then you went and just... No, no, I haven't told, I told part of it.
Yeah.
That was that was a conversation a month later.
I guess part of that's true.
Yes.
I forgot he called you about it.
Yes.
You know, I forgot what a small world.
Maybe it's all just me, you and Joe Rogan.
And no one else exists.
Mr. Malice.
That's all.
You're all just NPCs.
No, no, but seriously.
He goes, yeah, I'm looking at houses.
Where should I look?
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm sick of this internship.
I'm going to move over.
Can I say this?
Yeah, you can say all this except I'm moving to Austin.
And then it was kind of some, you know, a lot of heat on it.
I might have embellished it a bit.
So I backed off what I said, because I don't want to get Joe in trouble.
Joe Rogan's moving to Mars, he called me.
unidentified
I have the documents.
There's a moon base.
alex jones
Well, I knew years ago that Elon Musk already lived outside Austin.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
He already lived there.
Well, I mean, he's rich enough.
alex jones
He's got rocket bases in South Texas, North Texas.
I mean, yeah, he's got yeah, he's got houses there.
But yeah, no people know him.
He's he's I don't say where he lives, but he lives right outside Austin.
He's got a ranch and it's where he lives about half the time now.
But but but that's a side issue.
So the story Joe, I'm sitting there.
On my boat.
I got my kids on the boat.
I got some friends.
michael malice
Hold on, hold on.
What's your boat called?
That's Alex's boat.
alex jones
It's just a little moat.
michael malice
What's it called?
alex jones
It doesn't have a name.
It's a blue, uh, ski boat.
tim pool
Can you give it a name now?
michael malice
I'm disappointed.
It's a 26-foot motorboat.
alex jones
It doesn't have a name.
It should have a name.
It should have a bigger boat.
tim pool
Lil- Lil Jones.
alex jones
It doesn't have a name.
ian crossland
Call it Dr. Malice.
tim pool
Anyway, let's let- Alex, please finish your story.
alex jones
It's a blue boat.
You're right, it was bigger, I'd name it.
Usually little boats don't have names on them.
michael malice
I don't agree with you.
tim pool
Michael's wearing a blue shirt called Little Mike.
michael malice
Governors to Gitmo.com.
tim pool
Alright, alright.
Please Alex, continue the story.
alex jones
This is a real story.
Because so you know this you've talked to Joe you you do this and you never thought like this. I bet money Tim pool
Like well, let me ask you this question When did Joe tell you he was going to Spotify?
So you guys are friends you talk a lot least he's told me that you told me that I found out after the news broke
tim pool
Wow, okay No, no, hold on. This was live on the show. This was live
on the show I you made an announcement about Joe Rogan and Spotify and
then we were gonna do a show and I ended up I texted Joe because I wanted to make sure I had
confirmation and During the show Joe called me and you left for 30 minutes.
I was right Yeah, and I got up and I went outside and talked to Joe
alex jones
about it I came home to eat dinner and my wife who's here downstairs
She's like she's cooking dinner watching it and like hey, Tim pull scissors full of crap
unidentified
Joe doesn't think like this, neither do you.
alex jones
I think it would happen. Yeah. Yeah. News guard. Well, no.
I mean, Joe, listen, he was so angry.
tim pool
He was yelling on the phone. Was he? No, I'm kidding. All right. Let me let me get the big part.
alex jones
Joe doesn't think like this, neither do you. But I'm sitting there as a joke. I'm on this
boat with these people and I knew they wouldn't pay attention to me. And so Joe calls me. Yeah,
I've made the deal. I.
I'm leaving.
I won't announce for a couple of months.
I'm moving to Austin.
I'm going to close on a place in a couple of weeks, but you know, don't tell anybody, but I'm gonna go to Spotify.
I go, okay, buddy, that's great.
I won't tell anybody.
Hang up.
And I'm sitting there while these people that are friends with the family, they're nice lawyers, but they think they know everything.
And they're talking about stocks and stuff later.
And I go, you know, I bet Spotify is going to go up.
They're totally ignoring me.
So I crack a beer.
I'm like, all right.
And I knew that info, but I'm not in the stock market.
michael malice
Who are you with?
alex jones
It's just some lawyers and family.
michael malice
I just love the idea that it's your family and you're giving them useful information.
They're basically taking classes to ignore you.
unidentified
They're like, oh yeah, that's how my sick humor works.
alex jones
So I'm on the front of the boat, they're swimming on the back, they're drinking beer, whatever.
michael malice
What's the boat called?
alex jones
It doesn't, yeah.
So I'm sitting there on this... Yes!
unidentified
He's had it with me!
alex jones
Yeah.
This is a real story.
tim pool
Come on, come on, come on.
alex jones
But I'm sitting, that's my sick sense of humor is, Joe Rogan, have a 10 minute conversation.
I know he's going to Spotify for sure.
He signed the deal.
He just told me, but don't tell anybody.
So I'm sitting there and they're talking about stocks in there.
I bought this house here and it's gone up 5%.
Oh really?
My 401k this.
And I just as a joke, cause I never talk about, I go, you know, I bet Spotify should be really big.
It's like, Oh, Meanwhile, I didn't go invest in Spotify.
I knew that was going on.
I didn't tell anybody.
I don't know stock.
It doubled when that was announced in one day.
tim pool
It was huge.
alex jones
And now it's even up more.
So you could have made a billion dollars.
At what point did you put in prison?
But the point was I knew that intel.
That's why this information is so valuable.
tim pool
Would you go to prison if you bought stock on that?
michael malice
No.
alex jones
I don't know.
tim pool
The stock could have gone down because Joe's controversial.
michael malice
He's not an insider.
Insider is when you work for the company.
tim pool
And Joe is controversial.
You could argue the stock could go down because of him.
Like last night we were talking about... Not a good argument.
alex jones
I agree.
So why didn't I do it?
Because it's black magic.
I only have my strength because I never engage in it.
And here's how I work.
If I start watching sports, all I do is watch sports.
If I start doing something, I'm obsessed with it.
So I can't invest, even though with my knowledge of stuff and my insider knowledge, I could make a ton of money.
ian crossland
Do you meditate?
alex jones
I need to.
ian crossland
Dude, if you meditate, you're gonna vibrate white energy across the universe.
alex jones
I'm ready to do it right now with Tim Pool.
My wife's trying to get me to do it.
michael malice
Oh, the plant stopped levitating.
Look at that.
tim pool
The plant's gone.
michael malice
No, but the thing stopped levitating.
unidentified
It's because someone was trying to... That's a truth, but how cool is that?
tim pool
They were trying to get pizza, and they knocked it over.
alex jones
Think about insider trading.
michael malice
You're not hearing me.
alex jones
What could we have done?
But Joe's a great guy.
He trusted me with that information.
michael malice
He had Dave Smith on instead of me.
He's not that great.
unidentified
Okay.
michael malice
Very failed comedian.
tim pool
You said you were on Joe's show.
unidentified
I know!
michael malice
I was supposed to be on before the election, and then he just, like, leaving me hanging.
alex jones
Let me tell you, though.
The menage a trois I had with Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon was amazing.
tim pool
Yeah.
michael malice
Were you the middle of that human centipede?
alex jones
Yes, I was.
michael malice
That's the worst part!
alex jones
What do they call the lucky guy in the middle?
No, no, no.
tim pool
It's not the worst part.
michael malice
Of course it is.
tim pool
The end is the worst part.
michael malice
How?
tim pool
Do you want me to go into detail about the digestive system and what comes out of the person in the middle?
michael malice
The middle guy's having the same thing.
tim pool
Yes, but the middle... I guess.
alex jones
It's fake news.
I did not have sex with Tim Dillon.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I guess you're right because the person in the middle dies right away in the human centipede.
michael malice
No they don't.
Not right away.
tim pool
But they'll go into septic shock.
michael malice
No, I thought they did the thing and basically that you can survive because they're like feeding them.
alex jones
So Tim, do you think what Joe Rogan told me he was going to Spotify?
tim pool
Why are we talking about human centipedes?
michael malice
Because he was the one with Tim Dillon and Joe Rogan.
I have the documents.
tim pool
Oh my gosh.
alex jones
Can you imagine that pay-per-view?
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
michael malice
It would be more like pay-per-not-view.
Like, I will give you money not to show this to me.
alex jones
Exactly.
I'm only having some fun, man.
ian crossland
How did we get into the stock in Joe Rogan?
alex jones
No, I was giving you an example of insider knowledge.
I actually know all about COVID, I know where it's going, all this stuff.
tim pool
I wanted to say something to what you were talking about, these numbers.
I was once sitting at a Starbucks in New York City, and I was sitting at the window bar having a cup of coffee, and right across the street I could see a wall with black streaks going across it in an upward and arching angle.
And I looked at it and laughed, I know exactly what it is.
It's wall ride marks from a skateboard.
But I realized I was like, and this was a long time ago, maybe like 10 years ago, I was like, there are a ton of people who probably walk past that and say, where did these scuff marks come from?
No, because like, did a bicycle ride up the wall?
alex jones
It's a perfect example.
If you have the practical knowledge, they don't.
They don't read the language.
tim pool
So it's like, I see a totally different world from them.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
Based on what I know.
michael malice
Yes.
alex jones
Exactly.
And I'm so sick.
I like friends.
I like family.
I like people that are arrogant.
But I just did it because later I call those people up as a joke.
I'm like, you remember?
And they go, Oh my God, you did tell us Spotify.
And I said, Yeah, but I didn't tell you why.
Oh my God, why did you tell me you asshole?
I'm like, because it's to make you fucking pay attention to what I say.
tim pool
Isn't it funny when like, I think Joe Rogan tweeted something about Jones being right.
I think was it the Epstein stuff?
alex jones
Yeah.
tim pool
And so it's like, you know, you could tell them be like, you should have listened.
alex jones
But I don't, it's my sick sense of humor.
I'm saying that, but that reason I raised that story is I kind of am mad at myself because I've never bought stock.
Why didn't I do that?
But it's just, I don't think like that.
tim pool
Why didn't I do it?
ian crossland
Dark energy, like you said, like corrupted, tainted.
I think there's something about purity or honesty.
tim pool
Wow, I just realized.
ian crossland
That is maybe not more, I don't know, this is a challenging conversation.
alex jones
No, I agree.
Anytime, exactly.
Once you get in that ocean, you're in it.
I have nothing to do with it.
Not because I'm even some purist.
I just, there's something about the stock market.
It's so, it's so evil, man.
tim pool
I remember when I went, like, around this time, and I learned about this, and I thought to myself, like, wow, that stock's gonna skyrocket.
And then I just, like, carried on with my day, and, like, went and made a sandwich.
ian crossland
We talked about library, a social network.
tim pool
I'm not in that world, I don't do stock.
ian crossland
On a show yesterday, we talked about library, and their crypto went up 200% yesterday.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a, it's a hot potato.
ian crossland
But when you talk, like, it's that connected.
tim pool
Dude, I, I, no, look, man, the one thing I really can't stand about the crypto stuff is that someone will go on a high-profile show with 100,000 viewers, concurrent, and be like, This is the coin!
michael malice
Come on, you're telling me that everyone shouldn't go out and buy Ethereum right now?
That Ethereum isn't a great investment?
I think Ethereum is really the best way to put your money, and it's a better store of money than Bitcoin, which is for losers.
alex jones
Let me just say how this works.
We all need new currencies.
We all need blockchain.
These are real sciences.
We need new currencies.
This is a libertarian view to free up markets and have our new systems.
to get out of the central banks.
The problem is, everyone's pumping a bunch of BS to make money on it going up in a pump and dump, and that's wrong.
tim pool
And they want dollars.
They don't want the crypto.
michael malice
Should Pump and Dump be the name of that pay-per-view threesome that you have with Joe?
tim pool
Yes, that's perfect.
alex jones
Oh my God!
Pump and Dump!
Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, and Tim Dillon.
The ultimate gay orgy live.
tim pool
The big problem.
michael malice
Now that is an experience.
tim pool
It's a big problem.
alex jones
That's a Joe Rogan, Tim Milne answer.
tim pool
I think that's going to be on Pornhub.
alex jones
Yeah, I don't know about that.
tim pool
The big problem with crypto is that if crypto is going to be a viable currency outside of these central banks or, you know, the fiat stuff, people have to want it more than they want the fiat, but they don't.
They want to buy the crypto hoping that the dollar... Yeah, it's all pure speculation.
ian crossland
It's pure speculation.
michael malice
It's not pure speculation.
It has some functions that people use.
alex jones
But let me tell you, Max Keiser, you know who he is, right?
michael malice
I don't.
alex jones
You don't know Max?
He's one of the original guys.
He tried to give me like 20 million dollars of it or whatever.
This is like 13 years ago at Bilderberg when it first came out.
When did it first come out?
tim pool
Oh, it was 2009 I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Or 11 years ago.
I never heard of him.
tim pool
You know what year?
Luke?
alex jones
Point is, I didn't do it because I got it with speculative.
It doesn't mean I don't think it's not a real technology.
I'm not going to lead my listeners to that.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Listen, listen.
Bitcoin is a tremendously valuable technology.
It's very, very simple.
If I want to transfer value from here to, say, Japan... No, I get it.
alex jones
We need a different system.
tim pool
It's just, it's like the normal system for, like, if you want to give someone in Europe, if I want to hire someone in Europe and pay them to do art, right, so I hired some European studio to do the animation for my video, for the music video I did, then it's not particularly easy to transfer money from me to them.
alex jones
By the way, that was a good video.
tim pool
Oh, thank you.
alex jones
We got banned that night.
We played it and...
tim pool
Crypto is instant.
So I can give me your address, boom, you've got it.
You file your paperwork in your country, you deal with your taxes.
alex jones
I agree, and everyone that's doing it, I agree, should trade in it.
tim pool
But listen, listen.
The current price of Bitcoin is meaningless.
If I take $200 and buy Bitcoin and then transfer it immediately to you in, say, Japan, you sell it immediately for $200.
michael malice
No, that's the whole thing.
You don't sell it.
You start using it as a store of value.
alex jones
What I'm saying is that... So does that mean dumping it or pumping it?
tim pool
No, no, listen, listen.
People are people right now are using Bitcoin to they'll go to someone and say I'll take you know $100 of Bitcoin send it to you and you'll sell it for $100 that $100 transferred immediately and there's intermediaries who make money off holding and trading.
alex jones
Sure, just like stocks it's a trading mix.
michael malice
That's why everyone should buy Ethereum.
tim pool
It's a simple way for me to transfer value instantly to you and we don't care about the coin, but the problem is is a bunch of other S-Coins.
S-Coins.
We already swore so we'll just say it's shit coins.
And what they do is most many of them do literally nothing and they're Ponzi schemes.
alex jones
I've had major, not to name drop, it's just weird, major Hollywood stars call me and go, we'll pay you a million dollars a week to promote this coin and then I literally don't promote it and like a month, six months later, they indict the guy that owns the company.
I mean, I'm like, whoa, dude, I'm not touching any of this.
I mean, that's what I'm telling you.
ian crossland
The reason why Ethereum is better than Bitcoin is because of smart contracts, which is a new type of technology that can be embedded in the coin.
So what you can say is when this Ethereum goes to this person, we're going to activate this program.
So like, I want my power turned on this month instead of giving them a dollar and hoping some human does it and trusting that there's a human there.
When the coin goes, it automates.
The transaction.
So that's the future of cryptos.
alex jones
I want to be clear, all of this is the future.
I love new currencies, I love it all.
I'm just saying, just like the gold rush into California or the oil rush into Texas or Pennsylvania, there's always wildcatting and scams that go with the boom.
tim pool
Michael!
alex jones
And I'm just saying.
tim pool
Do you think aliens use cryptocurrency?
alex jones
I'm just kidding.
I think aliens have all sorts of trading systems, mainly on raw material and ideas and data.
tim pool
I heard that Star Trek is communism.
alex jones
Well, it is.
It's the UN symbol.
When they talk about the International Global Federation... Star Trek isn't communism.
tim pool
I didn't really mean to ignite this nerd debate, but it's not communism.
ian crossland
I wonder if they use electrolasers, like they vaporize materials and then shoot it with a laser to a receptacle where they cool it down back into the material?
tim pool
Star Trek?
ian crossland
Aliens.
tim pool
Oh, aliens.
alex jones
All right, let's talk serious about this.
tim pool
About the aliens?
alex jones
Let's, because here's the deal.
See, we're trapped in this.
I'm like Gilligan, who played Gilligan on Gilligan's Island.
I'll always be Gilligan.
Or J.R.
on Dallas.
michael malice
You're clearly the skipper.
alex jones
Or Darth Vader.
michael malice
Oh, you're fooling.
tim pool
Well, who would you... You know what I was wondering, Alex?
alex jones
I'm a Mary Ann type guy.
I like Mary Ann.
michael malice
Yes, she's the best.
She's approachable.
tim pool
Does your family have any, like, famous recipes or foods that you are proficient in producing?
alex jones
God, my mother, when I was a kid, I was totally spoiled.
When I was around, three meals a day, five course dinners, gourmet cook.
She doesn't cook that much, she cooks some now, like one meal a day, but my mother, I was brought up with a classic mother that was just badass.
tim pool
Apple pie?
alex jones
We're talking ironing my shirts and loving it and like cooking five-star meals.
michael malice
You're very lucky.
alex jones
And everything else, so yeah.
tim pool
I know you laughed when I asked the question.
It's silly, but it's meant to be as basic as possible because, like you mentioned about being Gilligan, people have this image of you and you're one thing.
And I'm like, you've certainly baked a cake before, Alex.
You know what I mean?
You've certainly been a regular person doing regular things.
We talked about this on the phone the first time we were setting up the show, because I had mentioned how crazy it is that people, like you're probably going to the grocery store to buy milk.
alex jones
I'm a lot more than just Alex Jones and gay frogs.
I have my husband, Luke Rudasky.
michael malice
He's also gay lizards and gay birds.
unidentified
He's a gay Dr. Doolittle.
alex jones
No, but that's what they do is, there's probably five memes that have, no exaggeration, 100 million views each on different things.
And it's all the same, like I'll eat my neighbors, gay frogs.
And then the gay neighbor thing I said, this is an allegory of like the road, Viggo Mortensen, the collapse of society.
If you really go down this Malthusian road, we could be eating our neighbors.
Okay, fine, I'm gonna eat my neighbors.
I'm sizing them up with a chain.
I said before in the same 10 minute segment, I said before and after, this is theater.
tim pool
That's what they do.
They look for clips to take out of context to make a super cut.
michael malice
Alex, you're also a performer.
You know you're a performer.
You act up in a certain way.
alex jones
Yes, I believe in my political views.
And then they go, oh, but you admit you're an actor in movies.
Like, yeah, I'm an actor in that movie.
You know, Scanner Darkly or, you know, Oh, yes.
michael malice
I gotta ask you, my buddy played you in The Hunt.
Did you watch that movie?
alex jones
I did not.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It's a good movie.
I thought it was gonna be bad.
It's actually really funny.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you guys know that I'm on two episodes of A Thousand Ways to Die?
alex jones
No.
tim pool
Yeah, you guys know that show?
Yeah.
I was in two.
I was in one where a mime eats a pickle and then chokes to death.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
And they hired me as skater dude and my line was siiiick and I did the the hang ten thing.
And the other one was I was a uh Repscalian punk with my young female friend and we were
skateboarding and drinking 40s in a park when a cop came up who was huffing paint and then told
us to leave and stole our drinks and then dropped his gun and picked it up backwards and killed
himself. This is a tv show by the way. I've seen that. Yeah so so I'm in these two episodes and
it was funny because uh I filmed them before Occupy Wall Street.
My friend was an assistant, production assistant.
So she was like, we really need skater guy for these two episodes.
So I went, I was like, I'll definitely do it.
I got paid like nothing.
It was like 50 bucks.
But then I went to Occupy Wall Street, where I actually met this guy, Luke Rutkowski.
I get a bunch of press attention, but it didn't air until like a year after we filmed it.
And then everyone started accusing me of using my fame from Occupy to go to Hollywood to try and be an actor.
alex jones
Actually, I remember hearing that.
No, I heard the reverse.
He's CIA.
He's an actor.
michael malice
Crisis actor.
Here's the proof.
tim pool
What, me?
alex jones
Which, by the way, I barely ever talked about crisis actor stuff.
I'm not going to get in the name of the thing they always attack because I don't want to cover it.
They're like, will you promise to stop talking about this event?
I barely ever talked about it.
I hate it.
I'm like allergic to it.
It's it's listeners and it's random minority of people to do it.
michael malice
But it's always the minority.
alex jones
But they can't they can't recognize faces.
So they think I'm Bo Bridges.
They think I'm Bill Hicks.
And they think everybody's a crisis actor.
tim pool
So look, in that in that vein, when you mentioned Gilligan.
alex jones
Well, let's do I actually look like I like the Oh my god, Genghis Khan.
You're a crisis actor.
You're really Genghis Khan.
tim pool
You know what hurt is?
alex jones
I am a gorilla!
unidentified
Kill yourself!
tim pool
I think we have to actually just jump into aliens.
unidentified
Yes, we have to.
Right?
It's never gonna happen.
ian crossland
Well, they're real.
I mean, I can't prove that.
unidentified
It feels like it.
alex jones
Stop, stop, stop, stop right now.
I am a gorilla.
Let's get serious for a minute.
I am going to prove aliens are real in the next five minutes.
You guys go ahead and talk and then I'm going to prove aliens are real and are on the planet and that new ones are being made every day.
unidentified
Get ready.
tim pool
All right.
What's your favorite band, Michael?
michael malice
Probably Blondie.
tim pool
Is it really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was like late 70s.
alex jones
Call me!
tim pool
Yeah, Heart of Glass.
michael malice
I met Debbie a few times.
She wasn't nice, but that's okay.
She's alright.
Really?
tim pool
Oh, that's a bummer.
michael malice
That's alright.
tim pool
I really like Muse.
Muse is pretty good.
ian crossland
Muse is awesome.
tim pool
Muse is more contemporary.
Yeah, modern.
michael malice
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's fantastic.
alex jones
I gotta have a bodyguard to protect me from Luke Rudowsky.
That's true, yeah.
michael malice
Who's your favorite band?
What kind of music do you like, Alex?
alex jones
Do you think I have enough big black bodyguards to be here?
unidentified
I'd say so.
michael malice
I thought it was one of those weird church choirs behind you.
tim pool
He actually has a bunch of security guards here, he's not joking.
So we've had some light chatter.
alex jones
Here's the problem, you don't tell them no.
So I said, these are great people.
Great, great people.
The thing is, I will need them tomorrow with Antifa at this big rally.
They will try to attack us.
So they're not lazy.
They're like, hey, you guys, take the night off after dinner.
No, we're going with you.
So they're good guys.
They're great people.
And then we definitely need them.
You know, Antifa attacked everybody three weeks ago after our big march, like half a million people.
They were like beating up women and children.
So I'll need these guys tomorrow.
They're going to be earning their money tomorrow.
But they're definitely... I kind of feel guilty.
I got these huge dudes.
They're like 10 people a piece.
michael malice
Did you come in heavy?
You come heavy?
unidentified
They can't answer.
michael malice
He's heavy, yeah.
unidentified
They can't answer.
tim pool
Are you going to prove aliens now?
michael malice
It hasn't been five minutes.
alex jones
I'm going to lay on you some shit.
michael malice
Literally?
unidentified
Is this how the human centipede slide this shit?
alex jones
I mean, I don't want you, okay?
I want Luke Riddell.
ian crossland
Have you guys ever studied?
unidentified
And you shall have him!
tim pool
No, no, no, he's got to prove aliens exist.
unidentified
Hold on.
ian crossland
You think about climatics.
unidentified
Are you going to prove aliens exist?
alex jones
Luke is our son.
Princess Leia, I am Darth Vader.
tim pool
Luke.
Luke is your son.
I've been saying that.
michael malice
What is happening?
alex jones
He's our son.
tim pool
So the Israeli former head of- Princess Leia.
alex jones
You are Princess Leia.
Me?
michael malice
Oh yeah, he does look like her.
alex jones
I am Darth Vader.
You know what that means.
tim pool
Luke is your son.
I have to kiss Luke?
michael malice
No, it means he likes killing children.
alex jones
Yeah, the Sith.
tim pool
Younglings.
Israeli former head of... See, you were the one who told me you were like, I'm getting pigeonholed, I'm Gilligan, I want to talk about space programs.
Okay, okay.
alex jones
I really want to just make gay jokes all the time.
unidentified
Jokes.
tim pool
The former head of the Israeli security space program.
unidentified
Let's get serious.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
alex jones
I'm no longer a gorilla.
I am a gorilla.
unidentified
All right, sorry, stop, stop.
alex jones
Let's get serious.
As serious as me bringing a bunch of huge security dudes to your house.
What's the point of that?
It's fun.
tim pool
I thought it was... I was like, that's kind of interesting.
We're in the middle of nowhere.
Are you worried about me?
alex jones
I want to intimidate you.
michael malice
Wait, maybe he's worried about me.
tim pool
I thought you were intimidated.
alex jones
No, no, they... I am scared.
No, they're just... They're professionals.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
alex jones
I need protection from Tim Pool.
unidentified
That's true.
alex jones
People don't know that Tim Pool can like pull your heart out with jujitsu and kung fu.
Like you've heard a lot of stuff.
I think he's more taekwondo.
tim pool
I actually took kung fu.
michael malice
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
All right, let me get serious.
Let me get serious.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
I'm gonna prove to you aliens right now.
tim pool
Let's do it.
alex jones
You want to hear this?
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Yes.
Aliens simply means none of this world are new, correct?
michael malice
Okay.
alex jones
Oh, you want to debate that, Mr. Malice?
michael malice
No, but I feel like if you're going to do linguistic jiu-jitsu, this is not going where we thought it was going to go.
alex jones
Are you?
tim pool
Are the greys real?
alex jones
Are you in a league with Luke Rudowsky?
michael malice
I am.
Well, we are in one league.
tim pool
Luke's not even saying anything.
You keep pulling him into that.
michael malice
I think we're ready to have a mignon in a second.
alex jones
We're going to get him in there.
All right, well, let me get serious.
I am a gorilla.
I am a gorilla.
Murder yourself.
unidentified
Stop distracting me.
tim pool
It's just been 10 minutes of you saying this.
michael malice
It's gonna be 40.
alex jones
No, no.
That'll be a fact check.
The show is bad.
He's not a gorilla.
unidentified
He's not actually a gorilla.
alex jones
They're not supposed to have fun with you assholes in big tech.
Listen, let me get serious.
I will prove to you aliens right now.
Okay, let's cover it right now.
You know they have the theories that humans came from being seated here on Earth.
ian crossland
Yeah.
alex jones
They established it in the New York Times as panspermia.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Is that what it's called?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But these are like regular scientific theories that like fungus came down and like crashed on Earth through meteorites and stuff like that, right?
michael malice
And the reason is it kind of violates the laws of entropy.
Like you don't have any simple system that spontaneously becomes more complex.
It's always the complex systems break down.
So something's not going to happen.
tim pool
And to add to that, life is negative entropy insofar as it creates more entropy as life is created, you know, so there's always more entropy being created.
Continue, good sir.
alex jones
No, exactly, so...
Obviously, like the mainline Baptist preacher doesn't get it, but he goes, I didn't come from a monkey and you don't find a Swiss watch out in the middle of Sahara Desert.
Well, that's actually true.
But it doesn't mean his six thousand year old models are right.
You know, that's BS.
And it doesn't mean like their claim that, oh, 50 million years ago, this happened.
They don't know.
There's actually jumps in evolution.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
And that's what we know.
Like something's going on here.
Evolution is real.
And all of a sudden, totally like in a thousand years.
michael malice
It's called the Cambrian explosion.
Right.
tim pool
Where we have this fossil layer of all of these different species that emerged around the same time.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
Over and over again.
So let's talk about that first.
I'll give you the alien proof.
tim pool
You're smart guys.
alex jones
You know all this.
General public just thinks I make this up.
You guys know it.
Each step, you know the next step.
I'll give you the next step after that.
tim pool
Yeah, the Cambrian explosion.
I don't know, how do we elaborate beyond that?
michael malice
The Burgess Shale is another one.
Yeah?
Yeah, basically, like, evolution does not, it's not happened at a single rate.
It has these weird spikes, and it's not at all clear what would cause these spikes to occur.
ian crossland
And, like, the formation of the solar system happened in one moment, it looks like.
alex jones
And now they know matter's going both directions.
Big Bang's not true.
There's a bunch of bangs going on.
ian crossland
Like popcorn.
alex jones
Yeah.
tim pool
Interesting.
So, one thing, I went and saw this lecture from this scientist guy.
He said, he took it to a religious place, which I didn't agree with, but he talked about... I am a gorilla.
That's right, you are.
He talked about the astronomical odds by which we exist on Earth.
And he said something like, what you need to realize is that Jupiter is a filtration system for the solar system, keeping away the asteroid belts and debris.
alex jones
It grabs all the comets, all the... Exactly, yeah.
tim pool
And stops them from hitting us.
alex jones
And the moon's at the perfect spot for us.
We're like the perfect spot.
michael malice
You know what's crazy?
This is such a logical fallacy.
Are you seriously going down this road?
alex jones
Because you'll argue out of billions of star systems... No, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
I said he took it to a religious place I don't agree with.
michael malice
No, I'm saying it's not that Earth is special.
It's not we're here... It's the puddles.
alex jones
There's trillions of galaxies.
There's going to be a few spots worth running.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
Stop.
I don't want you to misinterpret me.
Do you know the... I don't know what you call the allegory of the puddle?
There's a puddle of water and it looks around and says, I fit perfectly in this hole in the ground.
This puddle, this hole was made for me.
alex jones
I get it.
Just because we're in this very special position doesn't mean it is special because there's so much stuff going on.
michael malice
It's special because we're here.
It's not that we're here because it's special.
tim pool
The point I was making is that There was a guy who was giving this speech to me, talking about how the position of Jupiter, the position of the Moon, all of these things are so astronomical, it must prove!
And I said, no, it's the opposite.
alex jones
No, this is where the environment exists to let it happen.
tim pool
Exactly.
If it wasn't for Jupiter, life couldn't have emerged here.
michael malice
And Saturn, it pulls in a lot of this stuff.
ian crossland
Interesting theory about how they got formed, apparently a long time ago, either it was a binary star system that collided, and then because of a Z-pinch, It just ejected all this matter into what we now know as the solar system.
24 rocky bodies of planets all colliding into each other.
Giant gas bubble, like Saturn still has a heat signature inside it, like it's an old star.
unidentified
And it was either from a binary collision or... Yeah, that's the whole 2001.
alex jones
Detonating Lucifer is supposed to be Saturn, like they do Jupiter in the movie.
But yeah, that's detonating Lucifer to reignite that star.
tim pool
Alright, so what's the next step, Alex?
The aliens.
alex jones
Okay, well let's just say it.
You're like, of course we know that once I say it.
The globalists have said, we know there's jumps in evolution.
We're going to artificially take control of human evolution.
And so when they take different families of bacteria and plants and animals and mix them and create chimeras, which have been going on for more than 50 years, it's all admitted now.
michael malice
Lichen is an example of this.
alex jones
That's a natural chimera.
michael malice
Yes.
alex jones
And like a jellyfish is also a... Oh!
michael malice
What's that?
Not a siphonophore.
No, no.
Portuguese man-of-war.
tim pool
Man-of-war, that's right.
michael malice
Yeah, it's not a jellyfish.
tim pool
It's like four different things mashed together.
michael malice
Yes, correct.
tim pool
Crazy.
alex jones
Yeah, it's a colony creature.
michael malice
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, wow.
alex jones
Yeah, so the globalists are all into this.
unidentified
That's what they're obsessed with, but... So they want to make a human centipede.
michael malice
Well, I could think of three people I could suggest.
alex jones
With the big knowledge, there's interdimensional Colony creatures.
And we're only one level of a colony creature.
And that's what the globalists actually believe.
This is like the highest level stuff.
michael malice
This is what I was talking about with the elves, how we're 3D manifestations of 4D being.
tim pool
Right.
alex jones
But here's the next thing.
So they're all creating, you could say, well, if you take fungus and a plant and a bug and mix it together, you can still say it's off the earth, so it's not alien.
But with nanotech and with CRISPR editing, they are now creating With computers, thousands of labs, pure research, scrambling genetics together and making new creatures which are alien and have never existed on this planet.
I see.
So we're building the aliens here now.
That's a fact.
Aliens are here.
We're building them.
And you can say we're like a dimensional super intelligence gate that can't help but create.
Like Atlantis.
Atlantis was really hot.
michael malice
Are those aliens or just artificial life forms?
alex jones
They are.
They're artificial life forms.
I don't know if you can call them artificial life forms.
michael malice
If they're made by man?
alex jones
Listen, here's the deal.
By the definition is, it's never been on the planet.
It's totally new and it's mathematically created with artificial machines.
tim pool
Have you seen the glowing mice?
michael malice
That's a jellyfish gene.
alex jones
Part jellyfish.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
But that's like very rudimentary based on what you're saying.
alex jones
By the way.
tim pool
They've made mice that glow in the dark.
alex jones
Did you know the new, the big vaccine that just got approved in England?
The Pfizer vaccine has jellyfish genes in it.
unidentified
What?
michael malice
But that, you could go to any Petco and have a glow-in-the-dark Tetras with jellyfish genes.
alex jones
I know, that's what I'm telling you.
michael malice
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Here's an example.
We own a ranch in East Texas.
We've had since the 1820s.
Literally bought it from the Mexicans, okay?
We're one of the only ranches now, no seriously, we bought it from Mexico.
michael malice
Like I said, we bought it from the Mexicans.
alex jones
No, it's just we bought it from the Mexicans.
I'm saying it's that long.
See how, like, under political correctness, he was saying, we bought it from the Germans.
We bought it from the Russians.
We bought it from the Japanese.
I bought it from the Mexicans.
Now it's bad.
See how we are, like, self-noting that if I talk about something... Yeah, Michael.
tim pool
You bigot.
michael malice
You have to go back.
tim pool
I'm not mad.
ian crossland
Some Mexicans.
alex jones
We've got an old ranch.
michael malice
Exactly.
alex jones
We've got an old ranch.
unidentified
And we... Where is your sombrero?
alex jones
Actually, cowboy hats are from Spain and Mexico.
We think of Western stuff as like an Anglo thing.
That's actually Hispanic.
michael malice
And the pedal steel guitar came from Hawaii.
alex jones
A lot of it, yeah.
Well, the banjo came from... guitar came from Spain.
But what I'm getting at here is that Most the ranches around us is we kind of got regular just beef cows not fancy enough to pay the taxes but now 20 years ago they were doing artificial insemination 40 years ago all that now almost all the ranches around us are cloned cows.
michael malice
Is that right?
tim pool
No way.
alex jones
Yeah no no.
tim pool
I thought that was illegal.
alex jones
No what I'm telling you is it's already mainline dude the bulls are cloned Then they artificially inseminate, create clones of the biggest cows?
tim pool
I thought cloning was illegal in the US.
michael malice
Wait a minute, if it's artificial insemination, that's not cloning.
alex jones
No, no, no, I'm saying 40 years ago they were doing artificial insemination.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
alex jones
I've done artificial insemination.
michael malice
If you have sex with Tim Dillon, I guess it's artificial insemination.
alex jones
No, no, when I was a kid, they used to send me when I was like 10, 11, 12 to work at this big ranch.
tim pool
Alex Jones is 100% correct.
Oh, snap!
Clone farms have been around for some time apparently.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Who knew?
michael malice
What is this?
alex jones
I'm just telling you, my family's in the beef business, okay?
And I'm telling you that we're like one of the only ranches in the area that doesn't have cloned cows, dude.
The future's already here, is what I'm saying.
tim pool
That was 10 years, that was 11 years ago.
I didn't know that.
ian crossland
That's crazy.
Do you think that we're committing genetic modification in order to easily connect with external forces?
alex jones
I'll tell you what happens.
tim pool
Dude, I'm sorry, I just want to read this.
alex jones
Go ahead.
michael malice
Validate what I have to say.
tim pool
The U.S.
Food and Drug Administration in 2008 approved the sale of food from clones and their offspring, stating the products are indistinguishable from that of their non-clone counterparts.
michael malice
Twins or clones?
tim pool
Japan, the European Union, and others followed suit.
The moves have stirred controversy about whether tinkering with nature is safe or even ethical, prompting major food companies to swear off food products from cloned animals.
michael malice
The thing is, twins are clones.
Twins are natural clones.
alex jones
Guys, let me give you the big news.
Let me give you the big news.
What I'm telling you is, we know the big ranches.
We sold them, one of the biggest ranches, we sold them 10,000 acres like in the 60s.
It's clones now, dude.
And here's the crazy part.
They now have clones breeding with clones that aren't even made in the laboratory.
But what you do is, and I used to work there.
michael malice
I don't understand, Alex.
If two clones breed, then the new offspring is going to have new genes.
unidentified
Right, not clones.
alex jones
That's what I'm saying.
That's a hybrid.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
A clone spring.
alex jones
But let me tell you, listen.
I'm nine years old the first time.
that my dad goes, you're going for a month this summer to work at this big famous ranch.
I'll leave it there.
It's by our ranch.
Our ranch is small compared to this.
I go in, there's a guy who looks like Santa Claus.
He's a vet, famous vet.
michael malice
Wait, you got shipped off at nine years old to work at a ranch?
alex jones
Yeah, just during the summer.
michael malice
Oh, okay.
alex jones
But let me tell you a story.
I come in, this guy's got a Santa Claus beard, looks like Santa Claus.
He's drinking whiskey at 7 a.m.
in the morning.
And it's a huge white laboratory.
With squeeze shoots and all these cows, these giant black Angus cows.
And he goes, watch this.
And they start running him in.
He's artificially inseminating him.
He's palpating him to see what's going on.
He's explaining to me genetic engineering.
I'm like, why am I here?
Oh, I like your dad.
That's why I get to see this.
So I meet the guy later.
He's working for another ranch.
The point was, this is all going on, and that I was there when the cloned animals started coming in 30 years ago.
tim pool
What Alex, what we need to stress is from this article, it's not just cloning, it's genetically modified animals.
michael malice
Check this quote out.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, they're not all just clones, exactly.
tim pool
Check this quote out.
This is from Reuters.com.
I want everyone to look at this, and I want to show you the NewsGuard certification.
That's Microsoft, okay?
Boom.
95 out of 100.
You know it's legit.
It's Reuters.com.
alex jones
Bill Gates said so!
It's true!
tim pool
Quote, if you don't need as much corn to feed your cattle, you might be able to cut back on the amount of fertilizer put out there on the countryside that might end up in a river.
You can cut the amount of diesel that's spent raising that corn.
Just like they improved the genetics of corn so they can produce more bushels per acre, we're trying to do that same type of thing by using cloning and superior genetics to produce more meat with less input.
alex jones
And so, but the point is the banks just give you the money.
Here's what happens.
If you do the cloning, they just leave you alone.
Here's an example.
I can go to a ranch with all the white-tailed deer I want and do whatever I want any time of the year because I know the people in the state and they've got these huge 12,000 acre ranches and stuff.
It's all a ruling class, man.
It's all genetic engineers.
It's all scientists.
It's all a joke.
And my dad got led into it when he was like 13, 14 years old.
And I'm telling you, man, it's a whole super scientist deal.
Like I only saw like the first levels of it.
15 years ago, Kevin Booth, and I'll just go ahead and say his name.
Talk about Bill Hicks.
He was Bill Hicks' producer.
He got me into the UT psychology department.
And I was like, why are they?
They want you to be here.
And I went into the UT psychology department.
There was this guy that later wanted to work for MIT high level.
I realized he was a major CIA operative.
He goes, hey, let me just show you all this secret DARPA stuff.
And they were so smart.
They knew what I was probably going to do in the future with the trajectory.
And they were like, and Kevin didn't even know what they were showing us.
It was like DARPA programs and mind control programs and monkey farms and all this stuff, like at a five hour tour of the classified area of UT.
And I'm saying is, I was low level.
Imagine what you get when you're higher level.
My dad, at 15, was like top of his class, and he volunteered for this science program with NASA.
michael malice
Oh, here we go.
Here's the backstory of Alex Jones.
alex jones
No, no, this is a true story.
Well, you call it MKUltra.
I didn't want to call it, but whatever he was involved in, this is real stuff here.
michael malice
Here's the blue puzzle piece falling into place.
alex jones
This is the blue puzzle piece falling into place?
michael malice
Yes, sir.
alex jones
The same as the boat's puzzle piece?
No, but it wasn't that special.
They were getting all the best kids who wanted to, on the back of their cereal box, join NASA.
So my dad's like 14, he writes off to it, I want to do this.
Next, an 18-wheeler shows up from Union Carbide with a ruby laser design.
And they say, okay, kid, build this laser.
My dad builds it, writes a report, they hiring.
Now he's at MD Anderson Cancer Research.
michael malice
Wait, your dad built a laser at age 15?
alex jones
Yeah, a ruby laser.
unidentified
How?
tim pool
What was your dad's name?
alex jones
David Jones.
michael malice
David Jones.
How did he know how to build a laser at age 15?
That's amazing.
alex jones
They sent him the blueprints.
michael malice
Oh, okay, so it's like Ikea almost.
Well, no, it was a test.
alex jones
It was a test.
So the 18-wheeler shows up.
michael malice
Okay.
alex jones
And then, like, his mom was a big scholar and all this stuff.
But the point is, the 18-wheeler shows up at the farm.
Now, Eisenhower had funded this.
He just left office, but it was an Eisenhower program.
So my dad rode off to be part of NASA.
And so he went and did some stings and went and gave some, got tested and stuff.
And next it was like, let's see what you do with an 18 wheeler and a laser design.
So he builds this Ruby laser and the next thing they go, okay, won't you go work at MD Anderson?
You're out of high school.
He's 15, but you're out of high school kid.
He's in MD Anderson.
My dad told me it was in his cancer research.
People with no mandibles.
Okay.
unidentified
Huge.
alex jones
He didn't tell me a lot of this until I got older.
Total secret research stuff.
And then by 16, he's at Plan 2 UT.
They go, let's show you the secret reactor under the building.
They take him under their secret nuclear reactors, CD-ROMs, computers, flat screen TVs.
My dad didn't tell me all this till 2007, okay?
I already knew all this and finally he leveled up with me and told me about this whole secret government program, all the rest of it.
But that's a true story and it gets crazier than that.
I remember being at the table when I was 10 years old in Dallas and they were trying to hire my dad and all the top dental implant doctors in Dallas, they were hiring his friends, okay?
Uh, they were hiring his friends because my dad had been involved with some of those groups and things and my dad did like the dental work for the CIA because they had like what they do for high-level CIA guys.
You gotta have guys in the room and all that.
He did the dental work for the CIA.
This is all true.
And so they're doing all this work and They wanted him to come to Maryland to cite art.
I remember my mom sitting there going, David, I don't want $500,000 a year and I'm not going to have you a month in, two weeks out in an underground base in Maryland.
My dad's like, well, it's important cybernetic cyborg stuff and it's for the country.
It's to stop the Russians.
We got to do it.
My mom said, I'm going to divorce you.
My mother was never like this.
She goes, we're not moving to Maryland.
In fact, she goes, I want to go to Austin.
I'll be with my mother.
I'm sick of Dallas and I'm sick of these people.
We are not moving to Maryland.
And so I'm hearing my dad at 10 talking about cyborgs, man.
And my dad never didn't even join the program.
He wasn't even in this stuff.
He just got recruited on the outside of it, got out of it.
But because he was in that, oh, here's the CIA deputy director.
You're going to be his dentist now.
And you know, I mean, so this is the type of stuff that goes on.
It's how the system wants you, it gets you.
unidentified
How do we go from one of them on the show and animals to bring them on the show next time cuz his dad was involved in the Send him h9 to the ranch.
alex jones
I've been following Check this out.
tim pool
Check us out.
alex jones
This is from just I know but it's a scientific elite.
He was just low-level This is a scientific elite and Gates and Fauci and them are in the elite my dad just got recruited low-level never got into it and Because he didn't believe in war.
My dad was like, by the time he was at UT in like, 18, he's like, I'm done, I'm up for war, I'm up for all this.
He got out of it.
That's what I'm telling you is, is that this is how it all works.
tim pool
Let me read this, this is really interesting.
In 2015, the Chinese company Boya Life announced that in partnership with the Korean company Suom Biotech, they were planning to build a factory in Tianjin, China to produce 100,000 cloned cattle per year, starting in 2016 to supply China's growing market for quality beef.
alex jones
Look up their super pigs that look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
tim pool
That was from, yeah, that's the family guy, wasn't it?
alex jones
No, it's real.
Chinese super clone pigs.
michael malice
They have a mutation called the myostatin deficiency.
So if it's a double myostatin deficiency, they're going to lose, they're going to develop muscle at a very high rate.
There's also a Whippet dog that has it and these bulls.
alex jones
Yeah, they look like bodybuilders.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
So this is what you get when you, uh, when you, when you, when you go to Bloomberg.
ian crossland
Not news guard approved.
michael malice
Hey, that's our new vice president.
tim pool
This is Bloomberg.
This is absolutely news guard approved.
This is China's mutant pigs could save the nation from pork apocalypse.
alex jones
So they're going to save us.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're, they're talking about the, the gene research genetically engineered pigs and Bloomberg made this wonderful animation of this doofy looking pig flying around with a cape on.
alex jones
Let me tell you the last story about my dad.
So he's 18.
They wait till you're 18.
And he'd already volunteered for Vietnam.
And they said, no, you're not going to Vietnam.
We have something else for you.
And the head of the UT body department calls my dad in.
My dad had known him for like four years.
And he says, David, you and these other five people are the best in the state, and we're eugenicists.
We're gonna bring in world government.
We're gonna depopulate the planet.
We're not like the Nazis.
We're gonna target certain races.
We're gonna target everybody that's dumb.
And my dad was actually given that speech by the head of the UT body department.
tim pool
When was that?
michael malice
I have to ask this.
alex jones
About 1967.
michael malice
If your dad told you this in confidence, right, how would he feel that you're saying this publicly?
alex jones
He knows now.
michael malice
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, they already...
I mean, do I tell the rest of the story?
michael malice
Yes!
alex jones
Well, I had an uncle... I'll leave it at that.
tim pool
This is like... You had an uncle once.
michael malice
Go ahead.
tim pool
So, I... Don't cut him off.
michael malice
I want to hear the rest of this.
tim pool
I thought it was done.
alex jones
I had an uncle that was a highly decorated Vietnam pilot.
He had six Silver Stars, clandestine operations in...
In Laos and Cambodia.
He's one of the best helicopters they ever had.
Helicopter pilots.
And then he got recruited and I ran contra.
And he was a leader in that.
And then he saw some bad stuff and got out of it.
And then that's the rest of the thing.
So I mean, that's not that big a deal.
That's like industrial level.
Like Texas is like where they get most of the muscle.
Like whatever reason, like it's heavily recruited.
michael malice
The point is, if this is something he didn't tell you since 2006, obviously it was a big deal to him to keep it quiet for you.
unidentified
2007.
michael malice
Sorry.
alex jones
I'm at my office, and I've got Endgame, which I think is my best film, and I'm sitting there watching it.
We're going to a ballet reception for my first daughter.
She's like 17 now.
God, time flies.
And my mom and dad come in.
We're about to go to the reception in an hour, and I've got on a big screen TV the end of Endgame about globalism, world government depopulation, and quotes.
My mother looks at my dad, and she goes, David, this isn't true, is it?
And he goes, yeah, it is actually true.
So I knew about some of this stuff.
And then we get in the car to drive to the ballet reception.
And my dad goes, yeah, it's all true.
They brought me in the room.
They told me all this.
It's all true.
I was part of this program.
And he goes, it's not about other people in the program.
Point is, they get everybody in the program, dude.
It's not like he was somebody special.
Anybody that was high IQ and top of the chart, they recruited.
michael malice
Let me ask you this.
Do you have any insight as to what really... Is there something we're not told about, about how the Cold War ended?
Because the Cold War was the best gift to the military complex ever.
They can spend infinite money every year.
alex jones
It's like the Russians... Yeah, the Russians got sick of it and figured out fighting them made us stronger, not them, and they gave up.
Because they knew that we'd put the Bolsheviks in in 1917.
They knew the left had taken over and they were sick of it.
And there was a secret rebellion of Orthodox Christians and the CIA had used Christians to infiltrate Russia, but the program went too well.
And so Christianity ended the Cold War.
Not Blue Jeans and not Miller Lite.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
Didn't Gorbachev do a pizza commercial?
alex jones
Yeah, Perestroika, they'd already collapsed.
The Russians 90% of the Russians weren't buying into it.
michael malice
Oh, that's definitely true, yeah.
alex jones
It had fallen.
And then Bush Sr.
and them were trying to prop up Yeltsin to act like, oh, there's been a revolution, perestroika.
Poland had pulled out, Eastern Europe had left Russia, and so it had failed already.
They were looking for an exit that was not as embarrassing, and so that was Perestroika, and Yeltsin, you know, came after that, and then Putin, Luke Grodowski's father, you know, came after that.
michael malice
You see a tough father-in-law?
alex jones
He is.
Luke, get over here right now!
tim pool
Luke's chilling, he's been on the show this past week or so.
alex jones
I know, I've been watching.
ian crossland
He's gonna take over for me for a few minutes.
alex jones
He's stalking me.
tim pool
So we need to expand the studio.
We've been working on it.
We got some new stuff coming in.
alex jones
You got a beautiful studio.
tim pool
Well if we want to get... There's one rule though.
alex jones
You said bang the table.
tim pool
Bang it as hard as you don't bang the table.
That's the only real rule because people just like get carried away and slam the table.
What's, what's, what's, uh, what would you say is, like, the biggest or, like, the most important, uh, uh, secret?
Let me rephrase this, though, but, like, we're talking about these CIA programs, we're talking about the Cold War and all the stuff, and then even potentially aliens and interdimensional stuff and four dimensional projections.
Where does it all come together?
Like, what's going on?
alex jones
Well, let's talk about that.
When I talk about interdimensional information, that's in the Sanskrit, that's in the Babylonians, that's in all the ancient cultures said, there are these creatures that come to the ether and manifest on our side of the wall.
tim pool
Like the djinn?
alex jones
The djinn, exactly, in Arabic lore.
But when you get to the globalist skull and bones is they're in coffins, they're taking drugs, they're hallucinating in a German death cult that's thousands of years old in Germany and set in 1832 in Connecticut.
They take this very seriously.
So I was at Bohemian Grove and stuck into that.
I'm like, this is stupid.
This is just some type of Faustian deal.
But I was there with over a thousand men during this hour-long ritual.
They were like raptured.
I went to Pentecostal churches when I was a kid.
I went to Baptist churches.
I've never seen people so raptured and so obsessed.
tim pool
So I just wanted to ask you because, you know, when you were on Rogan, I think not the last, like, maybe two times ago, the big one you did on YouTube where you talked about the interdimensional aliens and 5G or whatever and hybrids.
How does that tie into Cold War military funding?
alex jones
Well, you know, General Stabelbein was ahead of US Special Operations.
And then after that, he was ahead of basically all Army operations.
And I interviewed Stubblebine probably 10 times before he died.
He was like a three-star general, four-star general, I forget.
And he couldn't release classified info, but he basically, they made men who stare at goats about him, but that's a whitewash about what really happened.
And they admit, even in John Ronson's book, which is a whitewash, that they killed goats with their brains.
They were doing it on a routine basis.
tim pool
With their brains?
alex jones
They would stare at a goat, like a two-year-old healthy goat.
tim pool
Is that what that movie's about?
alex jones
Yeah, it's all a big whitewash, but they would kill goats.
tim pool
Wait, so the men who stare at goats, that movie is about psychic people killing goats or whatever?
alex jones
Yeah, but they make a joke out of it.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
alex jones
Kind of like, you take a video of me shooting somebody in the head with a .45 and blowing their brains out, they show a video of me shooting somebody with a squirt gun, they make a joke about it.
But they 100%.
The Russians by the end of the Cold War were like spending half their budget on this stuff because they'd seen results and of course there's all these carnival barkers and gypsy scammers and whatever you know Pentecostal scammers that are out there doing stuff but There's a real power.
You know, there's a real other dimension to the thought processes.
And so that's what I'm talking about is that this has been studied.
This has been looked at.
This is what's going on.
This is what the establishment.
I mean, let me tell you, you guys are pretty prominent reporters, but you know a lot of people.
I know a lot of billionaires.
A lot of rich women billionaire like heiresses and stuff.
All they're doing all day is a cultic stuff and religious stuff and psychic stuff.
This is the whole world like at a David Rockefeller or a Bill Gates level.
He says he's doing science, but let me tell you behind the scenes.
It's all a cult.
It's all hidden.
They're all trying.
to figure out that super factor because they realize that the brain is picking up all this
other stuff and they want to understand that because it's that magic ingredient that is the
unidentified
ether. Is DMT the secret to getting that information? You know I've not taken DMT
alex jones
but when you have low oxygen dreams it's released.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
And if you interview other things, it's released.
So I have DMT type dreams all the time.
And absolutely, I think that if you're already a loser and already had a bad life and never had good experiences, and I'm not saying you're a loser, but you're a loser because you never had good experiences.
DMT or anything is going to exacerbate it, make it worse.
But if you are really dialed into things and really touching the universe, it's going to accelerate everything a thousand times and really tear the veil aside.
And that's the key.
I remember, this is the Clockwork Elf story.
This is like standard stuff known in the intelligentsia.
It's not like my parents were that special.
My mom had a friend who lived in San Francisco who was involved in a big international psychedelic Institute, which is really a government funding program through the University there at Berkeley and several others.
And I remember at the dinner table and I was like 789 hearing this and then on my mom went to Arkansas once on a road trip.
I'm in the back of the Volkswagen Beetle listening.
to this woman who was involved in these projects tell my mother about yeah we're trying to map it and there's these elves and there's these other groups and and you know we're doing it intravenously and she's talking about DMT.
She wasn't calling it DMT but she's talking about like astronauts trying to map all this and notice I was on Rogan two years ago a few months later we had a professor on going actually we're starting trials at universities with intravenous drip it's like once I said that then it was like okay Jones already released it not that Rogan was involved they went ahead and you know Talked about it.
And so, I mean, this woman was involved in all this stuff, okay?
And so, I'm here listening about the Clockwork Elves and Terrence McKenna and Timothy Leary and their projects and the FBI and the CIA and my mom's not involved in this.
She's talking to this woman who was one of her best friends and she's hearing all of this and I'm driving up to Arkansas on a, you know, four-day trip with them You just stay at the Arlington or whatever in Hot Springs and I'm listening to these women talk about like these astronauts and how they're going to another dimension and how they're mapping it and how they'll have like 10 of these the term they use was like explorers and they're all seeing the same thing.
And that's why they knew this is real because they're not all having some group hallucination.
They're all in hospital beds doing this, going and seeing the stuff and trying to map it.
And big problem is like a 50 second or a minute long trip's not enough.
So these people are signing on and they went further.
That didn't work for my family.
I did research.
I've been like a flatliners or something in the 80s.
They have people that have their hearts turned off because they found turning the heart off
is even more to go deeper into this.
And so then they pump the blood through a machine and these people actually go into death
to have near-death experiences and to be sent into these dimensions to communicate.
And then that's what you learned about the Satanists, other occult groups and the Aztecs and others
were doing sacrifices to like these entities want blood.
They want energy, they want that sacrifice and then they come and then they give you data.
Like, you read the old Grand War's black magic books, and it's all, you sacrifice a child, the demon appears, and then you ask it, where's buried treasure?
Or how do I defeat this political enemy?
They were asking dumb questions.
Well, now it's like, how do I create the ultimate weapon?
Well, here's the equation, the atomic bomb.
And then you learn, like, what's his name?
tim pool
How do these in the demons and dimensional beings have this information?
alex jones
Well, here's an example.
I'm sitting there like 30 years ago watching access TV in Austin.
There was some preacher, I forget his name, who was only on Austin on access TV.
He's got all the books of find that guy.
He's got all the books of some nerd dude.
He was super smart.
All the books of Charles Darwin.
I'm like, wait, I remember reading.
I mean, I've read the theory of species or whatever it is.
I know about Charles Darwin.
He has all these books.
So it was so crazy what he said, there was no internet then really.
I went to the library, they didn't have it.
They said, go to UT, I went.
And I found a scan in their microfilm of this book from like 1880 or whatever of Charles Darwin,
where he had a hallucination in South America.
And these entities through the veil told him how it all happened
and what was gonna happen and what he should do.
And here's this preacher saying, demons took him over and they told him how to do it.
He called them aliens, but they weren't.
They told him how it all worked.
And then I didn't believe it.
It was like this Charles Darwin was a communication with aliens.
I want to know this.
I went to the library and found the book he wrote talking about the hallucinations he had, where the demons told him this.
tim pool
I mean, it's like, isn't all this infinitely more interesting than current events?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
It's so one-dimensional.
Yes.
And I'm not saying it's Trump.
I'm not like, oh, whimp, no, turning against Trump.
It's the opposite.
I just, I'm sick of it because only talk about Trump, only talk about the Texas case.
tim pool
It's so one dimensional.
And now it's like, you know, to use that as a sort of pun, you know, we're talking about,
I guess, bigger questions about the universe.
And what I find most fascinating about...
michael malice
I'm balloting with Alex Senn.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Charles Darwin had something that they think is called Charles Bonnet Syndrome, a condition where visual hallucinations occur.
alex jones
Wow.
tim pool
So what you're saying is that he was actually seeing, he could see through the veil?
alex jones
I don't know.
I was watching a preacher at like 18.
This guy was on, I forget his name, I still remember his perfect fit, his pace, everything.
It was like this little nerd, dark hair, but he would like, he was on every day on Access.
And he had all these books, he's like, and Charles Darwin was having hallucinations with aliens, they were demons, and I'm like, this is BS.
So I finally went down and met the dude, he was showing me some of the stuff, that's another story.
And then I went to his church, and then the main preacher had a heart attack.
It was weird.
I left the church, but I went with her a couple times.
But the point was, I went down to UT once I found the name of the book.
I mean, I went down there.
I'm like, Charles Darwin was having communications with what he believed were off-world entities?
That's what Darwin thought.
So I went to see it and read it for myself.
And I was like, why was I never told this?
This is insane!
I mean, you know, whether he was crazy or not, the whole foundation of our whole system is based on this and no one's telling you Charles Darwin had a hundred and fifth, whatever it was, 110 fever and a three-day hallucination and like communicated with the aliens.
tim pool
The interdimensional beings.
alex jones
That same preacher had New York Times articles that I can't find.
of a major rock band in New York, sacrificing a young boy.
And then he was, and then I went and looked it up and couldn't find it.
So, you know, maybe it's not real, but he had the Charles Darwin thing turned out.
tim pool
And some things can be true.
I don't know.
alex jones
Maybe he was like, here's, you know, but I'm just saying there's been a lot of crazy.
ian crossland
I used to think that information was passed by light and that we're receiving it into our brains, you know, electromagnetically, but I'm wondering if it's like a lower vibration, a lower frequency, like alpha waves.
michael malice
They say the elves say everything's music.
tim pool
Do they really?
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
What does that mean though?
alex jones
Yeah, it's all like, it's like, it's like gonging clocks and bing bong.
michael malice
Yeah.
And also that music and math music affects both part of your brain, right?
Because it's mathematical.
So it's got a pattern to it, but it's also the artistic part of the brain.
unidentified
So basically, um, Christmas music is what it sounds like.
michael malice
I'm like, I think they mean it metaphorically.
alex jones
No, but I'm telling you, that's what I'm, it's like, you're like choral music and like, like clocks chiming.
unidentified
I think that's what the, But I just mean as a metaphor in the sense- That's why they call it Clockwork Elves.
alex jones
Sorry, I'm interrupting.
michael malice
Is that right?
Is that where the term comes from?
alex jones
I've never- I'm not taking DMT to see it, but that's what they say.
tim pool
Was that Machinos?
michael malice
Yeah, it's both, but my understanding- Clockwork Machinos.
alex jones
It's like you're in a clock.
michael malice
But it's all- It's bonging.
alex jones
It's bonging.
michael malice
But it's also that certain things happen recurring in your life, just like the chorus to a song.
And you have the chorus, then you leave the chorus, which is going to be a through line of your life or whatever, and you're going to have the verse, which are different things start happening.
But then the whole background time, you're still going to be returning to the chorus at a certain point.
So it's kind of like if you visualize how a song goes, it goes here, then it goes away, then it comes back, then it goes, it's like a sine wave.
alex jones
What's the term?
michael malice
We're reborn, it's the... Yeah, so the eternal rebirth, yeah, the cycle.
Yeah, so that's kind of like what they mean by reality being music.
ian crossland
Reincarnation.
alex jones
And they're saying, what does it matter if we die?
We're a repeat again, which is having a new experience, which just adds to it.
It's like a wheel rolling.
They're like, why do you care if you die?
It's going...
michael malice
And also the point that, like, some songs are longer than others doesn't mean they're better or worse than others.
alex jones
Have you heard, like, a didgeridoo?
michael malice
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
alex jones
If you want to know, it sounds like... Oh, he's right.
unidentified
That's what it is.
alex jones
Is that because the heart's beating, so you're getting these fluxes of blood pressure causing... I agree, like, when I'm exercising in the morning, not that I look like I do it a lot, but I do, I fucking hiked, like, 20 miles this week.
It's like, when I'm charging up a hill, my brain's the best because it's like...
And second to second, you have that half second of super intellect when all the blood hits the cells.
You're like, oh, I just, and he's like, oh, let me get that again.
Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
So when you're on DMT, are you hearing like music when those pulses come?
It's like a hyper-intensified pulse.
alex jones
I think DMT removes your normal visual blinders that let you analyze things.
So if you were a fighter pilot, they can't give you a thousand readouts.
You've got your main readouts.
And so it removes all the readouts.
And you're just like seeing like, yeah.
The full dashboard.
ian crossland
With all your senses, which is just the sense of touch.
All the senses are really just extrapolations of touch.
Vibration on receptacles.
alex jones
So you have like... Yeah, now you're just a soul, a spirit, whatever it is, like experiencing.
Now you're floating around on air.
You're like, what?
tim pool
So what's the meaning of life?
michael malice
It's whatever your song is.
ian crossland
You know, in math, the meaning... But you don't know.
alex jones
It is, life is row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.
michael malice
What's your karaoke song?
tim pool
That's the secret to the universe, the row your boat song.
michael malice
I wanna hear what Alex's karaoke song is.
unidentified
Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream.
alex jones
I can see it.
unidentified
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.
michael malice
Okay, I tried.
alex jones
I think the meaning... No, you tried.
Say it again.
michael malice
What is your karaoke song?
unidentified
Because you've got a very distinctive voice and a very, like, kind of... I never get to do... You know, I like Ace of Spades.
But...
The only god I need is the Ace of Spades!
alex jones
The Ace of Spades!
unidentified
Oh, that one.
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
I can tell you what the meaning of life is.
It's a verb.
Meaning is a verb.
In math, when you take the mean of a system, you're taking the average.
So when you mean life, you're creating an average to the system.
If it's too good, you're gonna make it worse.
If it's too bad, you're gonna make it better.
You're always finding the center.
tim pool
I know the purpose of life.
ian crossland
You're meaning life.
tim pool
The simplest and most discernible function of life is negative entropy.
That's about it.
An equal and opposite reaction to an extent.
alex jones
I'll say this, Mr. Poole and Mr. Malice.
I'm just glad we did just transcend Trump.
Nothing against Trump, but I'm not Trump.
So I told Joe this, and I love Joe Rogan, but I went there and was like, you know, prove me wrong to help me.
He's like, I'm going to help you.
We're going to fact check it.
I'm like, oh, my tooth's hurting.
But I appreciate we've actually transcended Trump now.
Which I want to transcend the censors.
I want to transcend all this dumb stuff.
I care about liberals.
I care about conservatives.
I hated George W. Bush.
I used to try to get you on the show back when you were doing, you know, Occupy Wall Street.
And it's not that I'm groveling to the left.
It's like I'm not who they say I am.
So it's good to be able to come on here and finally just move past this and have a real discussion.
Because Trump is like this small little part of my life.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm, but I had to like, Let me tell you guys something, and I'm really interested in what you think about this, Michael.
michael malice
Hold on, I'm going to show you something because something just happened, but go ahead.
tim pool
Something just happened?
michael malice
Yes, and I'll show it to you.
You're going to read this out loud.
tim pool
I'm going to read it out loud.
Is it something huge?
michael malice
It's a text message from my buddy.
It's timestamped.
What does this say?
Michael, I need you to look at my calves.
I'm handing the phone. I don't need you to...
Michael, Michael, I need you to look at my calves. Here.
Read what that says. And the time stamp.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
Friday, 5.14.
That's earlier today!
I love how everything is flowing for you.
Friday, 5.15pm.
Just Transcendence everywhere.
alex jones
What about Trump's tweet, speaking of Trump?
tim pool
What do you mean by that?
michael malice
He just kept talking about transcendence.
tim pool
I want to say something about, you were talking about the meaning of life and the creatures and the elves and all that stuff.
So I was reading something a really long time ago about entropy and how life only exists in creating complex systems so long as it creates more entropy around it.
And the one thing I realized, because I was reading this book about the expansion of complex and dynamic systems, or complex dynamic systems, life, as far as we can tell... You never know what you're going to get.
Well, every bit of it, from the basic self-replicating protein up to humans, is different degrees of creating more complicated systems.
You have creatures that replicate themselves, turning free energy into a complex system within itself, up to humans who start creating abstract concepts, which are complex systems, which don't even exist in physical space, turning energy into patterns of thought and language.
alex jones
And we're creating higher dimensions.
michael malice
I feel like you just glossed over something that I'm finding to be kind of a big deal.
tim pool
The transcendence thing?
michael malice
Yeah, which is, he's just going on and on about transcendence, and just two hours ago, and you have this timestamp, my friend was talking to me about this transcendence everywhere.
alex jones
What shows synchronicity?
tim pool
Yes.
There is a... That's all I'm saying.
I don't want to get too specific on what these numbers are, because it's personal information, but there are two specific numbers that... There's a series of numbers everybody has involved in their lives.
Pi.
No, I mean, like, everybody has unique numbers.
alex jones
Personal numbers.
tim pool
Like phone numbers or, you know, social security numbers.
alex jones
Numbers that keep coming up.
Mine is... No, no, no.
tim pool
Well, so, just to be specific, like, you can say you have a phone number, you have a birthday, there are numbers in your life.
Something happened, I mentioned this to Michael, two very specific numbers in a very, very weird way around the same time colliding, and you were like, that's crazy.
michael malice
And I was like... I didn't say that's crazy.
tim pool
You said something like that, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
michael malice
No, I said this is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about.
tim pool
I was online filling out forms.
alex jones
And we should be trying to recognize that.
michael malice
Yes.
alex jones
Because then you're like, it's like matrix code.
tim pool
I was filling out forms.
alex jones
Like the fact it's not crazy you're doing it, you're trying to understand the universe.
And if you're not doing that, you're an idiot.
ian crossland
You'll notice when you explain something to someone, if they don't understand you, they think you're crazy.
But they're the ones that can't understand.
michael malice
Right.
If I start telling you you should buy the Spotify people, it's a perfect example.
Alex, you're a moron.
I'm not buying Spotify because they're like, I'm a stock person.
You're just a jerk on a boat.
alex jones
But you get the sick joke of it.
It wasn't me being arrogant.
They were talking about stuff.
They were acting arrogant.
So I joke, I'm on the phone with Joe Rogan for 10 minutes, it's huge news.
So it was a joke, I go, hey, you guys order by Spotify, they laugh at me.
I didn't even use the data because I'm not part of that.
But it was like part of the sick currency that God got the joke.
tim pool
I'll tell you a story.
alex jones
Because it could have made a billion dollars.
tim pool
I'll tell you a story about, who brought Max Keiser?
Was it, you brought up Max Keiser?
alex jones
Yeah, Max Keiser.
tim pool
So I was actually hanging out with Max.
I know Max.
He's a cool dude.
And Stacy.
They're great people.
And there was this billionaire guy they knew.
And he was just talking about how he was going to launch a newsletter.
And he was like, I'm going to give people advice on what they should buy.
And I said, alright, you're a billionaire.
I'm broke.
What should I buy?
And he said, Square.
Jack Dorsey's company.
And I was like, why is that?
And he goes, ease of transactions. Simple, right? Everyone's going to
start using this very simple...
alex jones
And he's got the audience.
tim pool
And it went from... so I was broke. I put a small amount of money into Square at $13.
It's at $215 today.
michael malice
If you... people really want to be smart, they'd be buying Ethereum.
alex jones
No, but what you just said is key, Tim, because beginnings are key.
You've got to make a decision like a man and a woman together or a business deal is this and you bet at the beginnings where the money's made.
The beginning and also ends but and big changes but I mean it's just to me the weirdest thing is I can no matter how successful I've been doesn't matter if I've brought in you know over the years the same say how much money to fund my operation with it but It's weird, like, big globalists, big people listen to me.
But, like, average people, they don't listen.
They think when you're giving them info, like, you're trying to, like, embarrass them.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
They're, like, superstitious about information.
unidentified
I don't understand.
michael malice
No, they take pride in digging their heels and not having you being able to change their minds because they think it's a battle of wills.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
So what is this thing?
Listen, when I'm wrong about something, I want to learn about it.
michael malice
Yeah, but you're a dad, right?
So I think, I'm sure, I don't know your kids, but like growing up, a lot of times you're like, look, I'm telling you, if you do A, B, and C, this is the right thing.
And they want to be like, oh, you're a dad, you're dumb.
I know it all.
It's like, all right, don't listen to your dumb dad.
See what happens to you.
ian crossland
Yeah.
alex jones
That's exactly what it is.
ian crossland
Probably because we're taught by teachers our whole lives that end up being wrong.
Yeah, a lot of times you're told to do stuff that isn't right.
So when someone comes along and tells you something that isn't right... Exactly!
alex jones
You're taught a lot of BS.
tim pool
When I was growing up, I had my parents telling me the truth.
And I had a dad who was blunt and told me the truth.
michael malice
You were adopted and it was a mistake.
tim pool
When I was like seven, I remember I had to wake up.
School started at 7.30 in the morning.
So I had to get up at 6.30.
And I'm waiting.
I'm all tired.
And I'm like, I don't want to go to school.
And my dad goes, don't go to school.
And I was like, what?
He's like, don't go to school.
You can just choose not to.
And I was like, but I have to go to school.
And he goes, if you say so.
And I got up and I went to school.
I made the choice.
But that kind of thinking was what I was brought up with, challenging these norms and these ideas and these authorities and these systems.
And I've always been questioning this, you know, how people do things and the rules, and it's probably because of that.
alex jones
No, that's true.
You know, I've let my children down because... Oh, that's awful.
No, I mean, I've been good in a lot of ways, but I wanted to be so loving and so good that I just kind of let them do what they want versus my parents said, but then I was like 13.
They said, get a job.
You want new clothes?
You want a car?
Go pay for it.
And I was thinking these are hard asses, but now I appreciated all that.
It's an old story, but it's true.
And my kids are great, but you give them everything they want.
They don't appreciate it.
My kids are wonderful.
They're wonderful, but I mean... How many kids do you have?
Four.
michael malice
Oh, wow, okay.
ian crossland
We thrive off resistance.
That's, like, even trees need resistance to grow.
alex jones
Well, that's the old Confucian thing, like, if the grass isn't blowing, it doesn't survive.
ian crossland
But is there value to creating, you know, imaginary resistance?
Because that would anger me.
If I was your kid and you were like, had all this money, and I was like, why can't I have some?
You're like, no, go do it yourself.
I'd be, I'd get angry.
I'd start to resent you.
So, I don't know.
Maybe there is a value to supply.
alex jones
No, that's exactly right.
Like, my oldest daughter is really smart and good.
She goes, She goes, you've got money.
Why do I need a job?
And I'm like, do you understand?
You'll be empowered by that.
If I just give you money, you're like a plant I water.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael malice
Because it's also like, what if dad gets mad and now he's got that money, he could hold his leverage over your head.
alex jones
What if I die?
What if I die?
I told my daughter who's getting it now, she's doing a good job.
I said, what if I have a stroke?
What if I don't have money someday?
Take care of me.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
Like I take care of you.
You know, it's like you better learn how to do stuff.
michael malice
It's going to be like baby Jane.
tim pool
I think there's a reason why kids typically challenge the adults.
It's a natural part of evolution.
Absolutely.
michael malice
It's like three-year-olds is when they learn to lie, because that's when they're realizing there's a disconnect between facts and what they tell people.
alex jones
My youngest daughter's three and a half, and she's just now learned to, like, if she doesn't want to, like, at the store, she wants a toy, she'll go, help, help!
Like, you know, it's like, these women, man, I'm telling you.
tim pool
And then someone walks over and sees a little girl yelling, help, with Alex Jones walking by, and it's like, oh, it's him!
It's happening!
alex jones
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
Because you're right, they're young.
Lying is creative.
michael malice
And it's also one way for them to be more powerful than their parents.
alex jones
Yeah.
michael malice
Because they've actually convinced the parents of something that's not true.
That's real power.
That's the only power you have at that age.
alex jones
My three-and-a-half-year-old, Erica's my wife.
She's like, we call her the Martian ambassador.
I mean, she's so damn smart, man.
She's like, how does this operate?
What is this thing?
I like this vehicle.
I mean, it's like, I don't know what's going on with children, but it's, they said like there's these indigo kids or these future kids.
michael malice
Yeah.
Start children.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Everybody wants to say their kids the best ever, but let me tell you, we know adults.
michael malice
You don't know about indigo children?
alex jones
I have a three and a half year old that talks better than like a UN ambassador.
tim pool
You mean there's like prodigies, like super smart kids?
michael malice
But they also think they might have some kind of like alien hybrid DNA.
I'm not kidding.
That's a thing.
Look it up.
unidentified
Indigo children.
ian crossland
It's possible that we're being seeded right now by fungal spores that we're just not perceiving.
alex jones
That manipulates our genetics and manifesting.
michael malice
There you go.
tim pool
Pseudo-scientific.
michael malice
That's what the globalists want you to believe.
Yes, Bill Gates says it's a lie, so that's how you know it's the truth.
tim pool
Special, unusual, and sometimes supernatural traits or abilities.
alex jones
Obviously it's a new age thing, but if we want to believe it, it's our right.
Like, why do I have to news guard whether I believe in indigo children?
michael malice
Because you're a gorilla and you're telling people to murder themselves.
alex jones
I had somebody, I was gassing my car up two days ago, and I walk over and I go, it was like a woman, she goes, I'm a gorilla.
tim pool
It looks like a woman.
michael malice
He's not sure what it was.
It looks like a woman.
alex jones
My point is, is that... He's being politically correct.
tim pool
Come on.
michael malice
Yeah, it looks like that.
unidentified
It's ma'am!
alex jones
It's ma'am!
ian crossland
I had a dream about Max Keiser and Stacy earlier today, talking about Synergy and Max Keiser, who you brought up earlier and who you just brought up.
In the dream, we were picking apples and I was driving.
And whenever we would go through a tight quarter, Max would say, good job.
alex jones
I love Max, but he keeps trying to explain to me.
I'm like, dude, I don't do any stock market investments, anything.
I just don't want to steer my audience in something BS.
I'm not saying he's doing that.
I'm just saying.
ian crossland
Well, he holds a lot of Bitcoin and he tells people to buy Bitcoin.
tim pool
He's pretty shameless about it.
ian crossland
And he was right the whole time.
michael malice
And now he says to buy Ethereum.
tim pool
It's exploding right now.
When he said years and years ago, buy Bitcoin, I'm sure everybody wishes they listened.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
Dude, I was at Bilderberg 2008 or whatever it was.
michael malice
Where they make the teddy bears?
alex jones
Mm-hmm.
Bilderberg.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
He literally goes, here's 10,000 Bitcoins.
And I'm like, he got really mad because I was like drinking wine.
And he can stay like I am right now.
He's like, dude, I just gave you $10,000, this is the future.
And I'm like, oh yeah, great.
So that's me.
tim pool
You were the guy on the boat.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And he was the Alex Jones on the boat.
michael malice
Yeah, that's true.
alex jones
He got really mad.
michael malice
That's how life is a song.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
michael malice
Because it's the same chorus with slightly twists.
unidentified
Wow.
michael malice
There you go.
alex jones
And so I was asking my crew later, like, sure.
michael malice
I guess you're not a dim fool after all.
tim pool
I figured it out, Michael!
michael malice
I cracked the code.
tim pool
When's the crescendo?
When's the climax?
When's the big rising action, you know?
unidentified
Is this it?
tim pool
Like, we're getting all excited, everything's going crazy, the States, and then nothing happens?
michael malice
No, skeet skeet.
unidentified
What?
michael malice
Skeet skeet.
tim pool
Is that it?
michael malice
Yeah, skeet skeet.
You bust.
I am a gorilla.
tim pool
We're gonna go to superchats in a second.
ian crossland
It's like the best thing that can happen is just calmness.
Like if you think about the best situation, it's like a calm farm where the wind is blowing and it's peace.
alex jones
They say Valhalla is like a high farm on a mountain and a plateau and everything's happy, everything's golden, you just love each other.
tim pool
That sounds good.
ian crossland
But then we create problems to overcome them, to become stronger, just in case there's some cataclysm from outside the system.
alex jones
We send our children down the hill into the valley for a war to make them men.
michael malice
Wait, before we go to super chats, I wanted to shout out the guy who makes those mammoth pens.
If you go to foothillantiques.com... I'm a gorilla.
...on Instagram, who wants this?
alex jones
Murder yourself.
michael malice
You want this?
tim pool
The pen?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Give it to me.
alex jones
Hey, hey, hey, here's the deal.
I'm having a great time, you're having a great time, and we've transcended Kim, what are the other topics we want to cover that we've moved past?
michael malice
Can I give a plug to this independent businessman who is suffering because his business is down 60% who made me a great pen and I'm giving it to Tim.
alex jones
Only if he marries Joe Biden.
michael malice
If you want a mammoth tooth pen, check out Foothill Antiques on Instagram.
tim pool
I've been given a pen.
Is it from a real mammoth?
alex jones
Is it a real mammoth, too?
michael malice
Yes.
Mammoth molar.
alex jones
I'm a mammoth!
tim pool
So, so, so, he, he, is this, is this not vegan, though?
michael malice
It's, it's tooth.
It's vegan.
tim pool
I don't know, it's an animal product.
michael malice
Oh, that's true, it's an animal product.
It's extinct, yeah.
alex jones
Is that all there is by your turn?
michael malice
Foothill Antiques.
tim pool
Didn't mammoths- weren't mammoths still around, like, uh, in ancient Egypt?
michael malice
Like 800- like, uh, yeah, like 800 B.C.
alex jones
They even have pygmy mammoths on the coast of California!
michael malice
He's right!
Smart man.
tim pool
Hairy little elephants all over the place, huh?
alex jones
Hey, seriously, we're here- We've only hit the threshold of broadcast now.
We're going to end it now if you want, but I'm going to go for hours.
Let's get into real subjects.
Let's talk about the secret space program, Space Force, and what you tried to do an hour ago, the Israeli former head of their space program, folks don't know, Israel had the fifth largest space program.
They put satellites in space saying that there's an intergalactic agreement, aliens are secretly experimenting.
I'm not saying this.
This is mainstream news.
Fact check me.
Oh, great, Bill Gates.
This is big.
We should talk about that.
ian crossland
They just renamed Kennedy's to... Trump renamed a couple of, like, space program... space launch pads to Space Force now.
Did you guys get that?
alex jones
I did.
Trump's doing a lot of things.
tim pool
So we talked about this when it happened, but we have it from NBC News.
Former Israeli space security chief says extraterrestrials exist and Trump knows about it.
A galactic federation has been waiting for humans to reach a stage where we will understand what space and spaceships are.
michael malice
See, this is why some lefty had a really funny tweet about this.
They go, the most unbelievable part of the story is that Trump was able to keep his mouth shut.
tim pool
Yeah.
michael malice
And I'm like, you know what?
It's not... But wasn't he asked about it?
tim pool
He said, I'm going to look really hard into this.
michael malice
I don't, I don't...
tim pool
Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna take a good hard look into this UFO thing.
I see Luke nodding over there.
He's saying yes.
unidentified
It's October, he said that.
tim pool
October.
So maybe he just never really cared.
Maybe, maybe he never asked.
michael malice
How could you not care about aliens?
unidentified
Yeah, come on.
michael malice
By the way, speaking of Trump, we just became the Gorilla Channel,
which he was accused of watching in the White House.
tim pool
Oh yeah, I'm the Gorilla Channel.
michael malice
I have a gorilla, yeah, that's this.
So that is another example of synchronicity.
tim pool
It's just, uh...
But if you look for patterns, you find them.
You know what I mean?
alex jones
Here's what happened.
tim pool
Trump... What is that you're shaking your head?
michael malice
Let me just say this.
alex jones
Trump ordered, two years ago, the JFK files release.
And remember, they wouldn't do it.
He kept ordering it, and they released it a little bit.
It'd be like, if my crew didn't want to do what I wanted them to do, I could not do my show.
Tim, if your crew didn't like you, you couldn't do anything.
Be honest, you have to hire new people.
michael malice
They despise him.
tim pool
Yeah, they hate me so much.
alex jones
No, they love you.
What I'm saying is... Not Lydia.
michael malice
It's a hypothetical... She puts the sour in sauerkraut.
alex jones
My point is, it's a hypothetical statement.
All I'm saying is, Trump orders all this release, they don't do what he says.
Remember they were going to have training, which is now happening?
That all whites are racist and America's bad.
tim pool
Trump ended it.
alex jones
And Trump said, stop it.
I talked to a Green Beret two days ago.
He was just shipped out to Utah to be taught literally.
They make men wear red high heels and they make them walk around and say, America sucks in a brainwashing cult.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Dude, what is that?
michael malice
Alex got really drunk with Tim Dillon.
alex jones
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
That's just oddly specific, you know what I mean? $100,000.
alex jones
Right now.
They made guys... They made green berets wear red high heels.
ian crossland
Wow, emasculating.
alex jones
And they learned how to give blowjobs.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
No, no, no.
You think I'm joking?
tim pool
What's your... Where does this come from?
michael malice
The mouth.
alex jones
Okay, type in army soldiers made to wear red high heels.
ian crossland
We gotta look this up.
michael malice
It's gonna pull up pornos.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no.
I had a incredible patriot from America visit me and gave me a little award.
tim pool
He's right.
unidentified
And he said, I said, I'm out, I can't do this anymore.
michael malice
I need to leave the earth.
unidentified
I need to leave the earth.
michael malice
Pull it up, pull it up, pull it up.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Army to refute decision to have male cadets wear high heels.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
It was part of sexual assault awareness month.
They made the cadets wear high heels in ROTC.
michael malice
I'm out.
alex jones
But currently, they have been sent to Utah.
These are like, these guys are like Green Berets, super killers.
And I said, how is, how is our buddy doing?
And he said, Alex, it's literally to make him quit.
tim pool
They literally have red high heels while in uniform as part of a campaign called walk a mile in her shoes.
Alex Jones was right.
ian crossland
You become very vulnerable on high heels.
michael malice
He also said teach them how to give blowjobs.
tim pool
No, they don't know about all that stuff.
alex jones
No, I'll tell you.
Pull it up.
Remember?
tim pool
How do I pull it?
There's a Washington Post saying they're wearing high heels.
michael malice
Just Google army blowjobs.
alex jones
No, guys, guys.
tim pool
Wait, hold on.
It came up.
unidentified
It's from Pornhub.
tim pool
Pornhub.
That's where it came up.
alex jones
You guys laugh about it.
It's like, no, I'm talking to them.
unidentified
Hold on.
tim pool
Let me just give you some credit.
We are making fun of him when he literally just proved us wrong about the high heels.
alex jones
Let me tell you a story.
I was exposing the Superbowl four years ago in Houston.
michael malice
The Superbowl?
alex jones
Superbowl.
michael malice
Like the football thing?
alex jones
Yes.
In Houston, running child kidnapping rings.
tim pool
Wait, what?
alex jones
Not the Superbowl.
At the Superbowl, they had child sex life going on.
michael malice
The NFL was involved with this?
alex jones
No, no.
At the Superbowl in Houston.
They were doing this.
I'm not saying the Superbowl did it.
And so I had a guest on and all of a sudden this guy comes from the U.S.
Army and the CIA and he gets in my big whiteboard.
I know he is.
He's a well-known person.
He says, Jones, you've really hit on something.
Gotta be careful.
Who's here?
Who's involved?
Here's who's running it.
And that's the same guy that told me about all this.
I said, where is this guy?
Well, this other person visited me from the government and he said, well, he's up there being brainwashed in Utah right now.
They're making him wear high heels.
They're teaching him that they need to become James Bond doesn't just have sex with women.
So the point is, is that they're literally... I was told this, so this is real.
I mean, I'm just telling you.
michael malice
You were told that James Bond doesn't just have sex with women?
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen.
alex jones
I think... Think about the abuse of our troops, man.
They'll do anything for this country.
And they're literally got them in Utah, wearing high heels, and learning how to suck dick.
michael malice
Well, some of them didn't have to learn.
alex jones
Oh, it's true!
I mean, what the hell am I supposed to do here?
tim pool
The high heels thing stopped sucking my dick.
alex jones
Is it possible that... But I'm allowed to anecdotally tell you that that's the kind of stuff they're showing them.
And you're like, why is the point?
It's meant to run them off.
If they were women being taught how to have sex with people, it's wrong.
What do they have men at a goddamn base teaching them this for?
ian crossland
They're humiliating them.
alex jones
It's too humiliating.
tim pool
Oh, there's a video of it.
ian crossland
Humility.
tim pool
They got a video.
There's a video.
Look at this.
unidentified
Okay, of the high heels, not the other thing.
tim pool
Of the high heels, not the other thing.
alex jones
Obviously it goes way worse than this.
tim pool
Let's jump ahead.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
If it plays.
I don't think it's gonna play.
alex jones
They'll probably ban that thing, it's fake news.
michael malice
This is like when we brought up Building 7, the feed's gonna go down.
tim pool
Look at this, look at this.
ROTC cadets walking a mile in their shoes.
Army ROTC.
This is nothing.
They're wearing red high heels.
unidentified
What the heck?
The most feminine thing that we could find.
So what was that?
Heels.
The largest heels that we can find.
michael malice
No, it was stilettos.
unidentified
We found red heels as high as we can get them and walked 1.26 miles so that we can support them for that.
It's not as extreme as I'd imagine it by how you described it.
alex jones
But this is the White Watch.
This is probably what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
You can't run away.
alex jones
Dude, I was talking to a dude who's like killed probably 200 people.
I said, how are you doing?
Well, we're being told to do this.
ian crossland
So we can't even tell you what it is.
alex jones
They're being told to become sex ops.
tim pool
That's weird stuff.
alex jones
You know, they tell men in the military, hey, we got to infiltrate, get their women, infiltrate their women.
We're telling guys, for America, you need to learn to, it's all about just the most insane stuff you ever heard.
michael malice
And what year is this from?
tim pool
2015.
alex jones
This is, this is new.
I'm saying this is five years ago.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
Currently in Utah.
They have special operations U.S.
Army wearing high heels, wearing dresses, and literally like, they're like, you need to learn to not be upset by this.
Watch this porn.
Here's how a blow job is conducted.
And the troops are like sitting there on big screen TVs watching this.
ian crossland
They want to make men more sensitive, so that they can be like... You know, there's been a lot of rape in the military, male on female, especially with women soldiers now.
So maybe they're trying to teach men what it's like to be a woman.
That's exactly what they say.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what they said.
alex jones
So I'm just telling you what I've been told.
Say fake news.
I was told this by real people.
tim pool
Well they're certainly wearing high heels, that happened.
That was a big thing five years ago.
ian crossland
I want to fact check the oral sex.
tim pool
It's interesting how we went from aliens again right back into this.
unidentified
It's weird.
alex jones
So let's leave this and just say it's fiction.
No one's wearing high heels, that was a joke.
tim pool
No, but it's almost inescapable.
Like, we were gonna do Super Chats, you said, no, no, let's talk about the Israeli space security guy.
alex jones
Let's go back to him.
Let's go right back to... Let's go back to him.
What do you make of the former head of the Israeli space program, which they have one, folks, saying, was it Global International... Galactic Federation.
Galactic Federation, which you made a joke on Joe Rogan about, which is now coming out.
tim pool
So, I can't remember exactly what we were talking about, but we were talking about, I think, like, war and international interests, and I said, Joe, the Galactic Federation will not allow us to enter until we're unified by one governing authority.
And then Joe immediately went, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
And a lot of people commented that it was funny, like, a really funny response, because I wasn't being serious, and Joe gave me a really serious answer.
And then we get this guy saying this.
Is it possible this guy's just an old crackpot?
michael malice
Or he could be trolling.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
alex jones
Let me give you my answer in a moment, but let me kiss some Tim Pool ass right now and some Michael Malice.
michael malice
Dr. Menace.
alex jones
Please don't.
Dr. Menace.
No, no, seriously.
tim pool
Dr. Menace.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
michael malice
Why is he putting on high heels?
alex jones
What's wrong with that?
unidentified
Because I love this country and I'm a patriot.
alex jones
No, no.
People ask, why do you like Tim Pool?
michael malice
That's a good question.
alex jones
Hey, I come home, my wife's watching while I'm eating dinner and I've been watching for 10 years, but When people say, why is he being argumentative with you?
That's what he does.
When you had the CEO of Twitter on and the head lawyer, it was like Perry Mason, but real.
I mean, I am kissing ass right now because I didn't see what it was like.
It was like 10 million views.
Look at this.
And I was so being shut down then, almost bankrupt.
No one's standing up for me.
And you boosted me so much in my own personal when you cut them to ribbons in that interview.
No seriously and that's why I love you because so I get why you interrogate me it's your nature that's good to interrogate reality but you destroyed the head of Twitter you destroyed their lawyer And it wasn't just that, like, they suck, because they did suck and did what they were talking about.
You were like a lawyer doing it, like a top lawyer.
That was beautiful.
That's why I appreciate you doing that, because I know it wasn't about defending me.
It was about defending reality, right?
Or what was the moment?
You're in there for hours, destroying.
I watched the whole thing, like, three times.
I watched the clips, like, ten times.
tim pool
Yeah, but you know, the thing is, like, It's funny how, during Occupy Wall Street, I can get praise from all these leftists for defending reality.
And then, I was, you know, I got a lot of heavy criticism from the right.
Not so much, they didn't care about me all that much during Occupy, but, you know, they were certainly trolling in the livestreams.
And now we're at this point where, after watching, you know, after, say, like, the Joe Rogan, Jack Dorsey, Vijay Gada thing, the right, or whatever you want to call it, is saying, wow, Timmy did a great job, and the left is like, Tim Pool is all bad, or, you know, he's right-wing or whatever.
But now that we're moving into this other space with, you know, Trump and the election, now it's starting to shift a little bit.
Now I'm actually getting praise from leftists.
There was this funny meme about, who would you stay in a room with 24 hours with?
And all these leftists are like, Tim Pool's actually not that bad of a guy.
He's kind of annoying, but I could skate with him or something.
And now I actually have people over at the Donald.win saying I'm like a bald cuck and a loser who won't accept it.
So I mention this every time.
It's the same way for me.
alex jones
Trump's starting to lose.
This Texas defeat's a big deal.
I'm not gonna lie to people.
They're already mad at me.
Why are you saying Trump's in trouble?
Why have you sold Trump out?
I'm not gonna lie.
tim pool
I wrote that song about the cycle of life and revolutions.
Michael, you've discovered the true nature of the universe.
michael malice
You don't need to be sarcastic.
I'm talking truth to you.
tim pool
I'm not being sarcastic.
michael malice
He's got a smarmy look on his face.
tim pool
I'm telling you, I made a video about how it goes.
michael malice
I know you did.
I watched your video.
alex jones
I enjoyed it.
Let's go back to the moment with the Twitter CEO.
That's like some of the most powerful Perry Mason stuff ever.
But it's not a movie.
It's real.
tim pool
I didn't plan anything.
alex jones
Do they realize they were destroyed at the end of that?
tim pool
But does it matter?
Yes, it does.
michael malice
It does matter a lot, Tim.
tim pool
Come on.
Listen, after that show, Jack came up to me.
alex jones
That was like Mike Tyson in like 1988.
michael malice
Versus Estelle Getty.
tim pool
After that episode, as we were leaving, Jack Dorsey came to me and he very gently whispered sweet nothings into my ears.
And I felt a warm feeling.
He says, we're going to make it all better.
We're going to create paths to redemption.
We're going to allow people a second chance.
Don't worry, everything you said, you're so right.
And I said, Jack, you mean it?
And he was like, I mean it.
And I was like, and it's been two years.
unidentified
I don't want to tell any stories.
michael malice
That ship has sailed.
alex jones
But someone we know that was in the room at that time said the same thing to me.
He goes, I talked to Jack.
There's a path to redemption.
And I really think that Tim got through to him.
And Joe told me that.
michael malice
In all seriousness though, maybe you did get through to him at that moment.
And then he goes back to his board and they're like, haha, cool story.
ian crossland
Yeah, he was like 3% of the company.
tim pool
He's a figurehead.
He's not even involved.
alex jones
I was there.
Joe Rogan called me.
And I'm gonna give it a seat.
Joe didn't say it was a cigarette.
He goes, man, Tim Pool knocked you out of the park.
I'm like, yeah, I saw it.
Incredible.
And he's like, yeah, you know, I think they're really gonna get a path.
What'd he say?
tim pool
Path to redemption?
alex jones
A path to redemption.
And I go, really, Joe?
He goes, oh, yeah.
Don't quote me, but Dorsey's gonna.
It's what you just said.
It was nothing happened.
Jack pissed Joe off, you know.
tim pool
I think Jack has checked out.
He's been checked out for a long time.
He left Twitter a long time ago.
He was fired.
I think they brought him back as kind of a, but you founded it, so you're the face.
alex jones
I think that's it.
I was told by somebody, Jack likes you.
He's trying to fix free speech, leave him alone.
And then I confronted him in DC and they banned me that day.
And later I confirmed that was real.
Somebody showed me text messages with him saying that.
michael malice
You have the documents.
alex jones
I was shown documents from two years ago by somebody else, and then magically this other person showed me text messages with him saying, I like Alex Jones, but I don't control my own company.
I'm not just saying this right now to act powerful.
michael malice
In all fairness, it's not a surprise that a CEO doesn't have this unilateral power over a company like that.
tim pool
He was especially a publicly traded one.
He was preaching blockchain social media that can't ever be deleted, which is also kind of a bad thing.
You know, you want to be able to remove posts, you want to be permanent.
alex jones
But you want to know it actually has the providence, but I get what you're saying.
But yeah, so could you own blockchain under a gnome to plume?
If you could own, if you could own blockchain under a alias, it could be safer.
tim pool
There's a lot to try and figure out.
alex jones
But imagine, I was told by Joe Rogan, hey, Jack Dorsey is going to fix it.
He's really upset.
Tim Poole did a great job.
And then later I'm like, that's BS.
Other people confirm that to me, that he basically actually is more of a libertarian, is upset by what's happening.
And I thought that was a patronization at the time.
tim pool
I don't believe it.
alex jones
So you think it's BS again?
tim pool
Yeah.
So I think if Jack Dorsey actually cared, he'd stand up and say something at the very least.
alex jones
No, I agree.
I'm not lionizing him.
I'm just saying, is there any truth to it?
tim pool
So Jack has said to me, even since then, in DMs, things about, we're going to fix it, we're trying, we're working on it, and the reason I don't believe him is that when something happens, like they... Well, Joe Rogan told me, he said, Jack's working on your path to redemption.
Two years ago?
alex jones
Yes, BS.
tim pool
If Jack Dorsey, if he has no power in the company, he could at least issue a statement saying, I firmly reject the suspension of this individual, we must restore free speech rights.
He doesn't.
He just says, you know, we're trying very hard, and then he does these, these, how many Senate hearings have we had now, where he says the exact same things, and there are lies over and over again.
We've got the leak information.
alex jones
We don't censor anybody!
tim pool
We've got, Project Veritas has gotten more than enough information from employees at Twitter.
alex jones
So what is his problem?
tim pool
I think he doesn't care.
ian crossland
He doesn't own the company.
tim pool
His job is to just advocate on behalf of Twitter.
And so, you know what I'd be willing to bet?
I'd be willing to bet, before he went to the Senate, he went to, you know, Vijay and said, Oh, what do you want me to say?
He's like, say these things.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That's it.
michael malice
That does sound like it.
alex jones
I'll say that when you debated her and him, you are smart, but you did a better job than I would have done, I'm being honest.
But they were like mental retards.
michael malice
You got kicked off of Twitter for using that word, you know that?
tim pool
Yeah, that's bannable.
alex jones
I know.
You can euthanize somebody.
You can kill babies.
You can have Uyghur death camps if you're Apple.
But if you use a term, they say you can't, you're banned.
Fine, I apologize.
michael malice
The point is... I didn't mean to criticize you.
I mean, people listening, like a lot of times, like in my mentions, someone will use that word against somebody else, and I want to give them the warning.
alex jones
No, no, I agree.
So anyone banning this supports Uyghur death camps run by Apple.
Because remember, I don't run death camps.
I don't run death camps in China.
I don't own one slave.
So you say that I use a word like that.
I'm bad.
You are ignoring all the real crimes and using that attack on me to shut down what I've said to support Uyghur death camps run by Apple in China.
michael malice
I'm just giving advice to people on Twitter.
ian crossland
I will agree with you, Alex, that they look slow and confused.
If you wanted to use a different word.
alex jones
I'm not kissing his ass.
It was like a sloth talking to the Flash.
ian crossland
It was like they had their pants caught down and didn't know how to respond.
michael malice
The Flash has an archenemy called the Turtle, who is his first archenemy and he's very slow.
tim pool
Really?
michael malice
Yes.
That's awesome.
Showcase number four.
alex jones
Go back to what you were saying.
ian crossland
When you were talking to them specifically about the way they were saying you can't misgender someone.
Can you explain that confusion?
tim pool
So Jack said, you know, we have rules and we follow the rules and we apply the rules fairly.
And I said, your rules are biased.
And he said, no, no, they're not.
And I said, yes, they are.
Twitter has a misgendering policy.
It's a rule that only fits the ideology of the left and is contradictory to the ideology of the right.
Therefore, you've created a rule that only benefits the left.
I'd explain it to them.
They didn't understand the concept.
Or they did and they just don't care.
alex jones
Because it's not that I hate a dude that wants to be a woman or a woman wants to be a man.
I don't care.
The idea that even Bill Nye the science guy went back to his 1980s cartoons.
tim pool
That's actually not true.
That's not true.
So there's a meme going around of Bill Nye talking about jeans.
It's fake.
Okay, I've seen the video of them going back and re-editing the old 1980s show where they- There's a video where he talks about gender and stuff, but there's a fake meme where- No, it's a video.
alex jones
Listen, let's just say this.
The left is saying that chromosomes don't determine sex.
tim pool
They are, absolutely.
alex jones
So that's going on.
And all I'm saying is I don't care if a dude dresses like a woman.
I don't care if a guy is a woman.
michael malice
You're just yelling about a dude dressing like women.
alex jones
Exactly.
Who was that?
michael malice
The guys in the high heels.
alex jones
They're being forced to do it.
Exactly.
They're forced.
It's what I'm saying is I don't care if you want to do it.
Just don't force us to do it.
michael malice
Fair.
alex jones
Does that make sense?
I'm like capitulating.
I don't care.
I'm a libertarian.
michael malice
What I'm getting is... Did you vote for Judge Organson or Trump?
alex jones
Who?
ian crossland
Joe Jorgenson.
michael malice
That was the perfect answer.
unidentified
Thank you.
michael malice
Beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful.
ian crossland
Regarding these paths to redemptions, you can go to prison and then get out of prison.
That was actually a violent crime.
alex jones
Yeah, and I questioned big events they took out of context and I'm banned.
ian crossland
For how long have you been banned now?
alex jones
They said it's a lifetime.
ian crossland
It's got to be a limited term.
tim pool
I think that's something I actually brought up on the show.
I said that, you know, if someone makes a mistake, you give them a life sentence.
You can commit murder in the United States and only get 20 years.
alex jones
Well, Tim, I love your show because, I mean, we've been in fights about stuff, but when you explained on air, I won't even say the name of it, I barely talked about a mass shooting and the internet didn't believe it happened.
I covered like 10 times.
They said, Jones's identity is denying the shooting happened.
And like six years ago, I said, no, I thought it happened.
Leave me alone.
And then Megan Kelly twisted it and got me like, well, why did you question?
So they can then sue me.
And you got it straight.
You're like Jones is repudiated this.
He said he was wrong.
And then these people continue to milk this and bring this up over and over again when it's not who I am.
It's like they take one thing out of context and it's like Groundhog Day.
It's over and over.
And then imagine they're on the news going, he's harassing children.
He won't leave us alone.
Help us.
Jones is attacking us.
And I'm like, no, I'm not.
No, no.
And then they won't stop.
michael malice
Because you're trapped in a bad song.
alex jones
That's it.
It's like a song.
michael malice
But it's a bad one.
tim pool
We need to go to Super Chats.
michael malice
Let's hear for the plebs.
alex jones
We didn't cover the intergalactic fleet.
ian crossland
Oh, we will.
alex jones
I will tell you the big alien cigarette.
I want to go to, you want to go to the show?
tim pool
What's the big alien secret?
alex jones
How long do we have?
How long do we have?
tim pool
I mean, I don't know.
But yeah, I will say, I think we've tried like 17 times to talk about it and it just every single time goes back to the exact same subjects.
alex jones
Let's cover the subjects we haven't covered.
michael malice
The super, let's talk to the fans.
alex jones
Let me tell you.
tim pool
We gotta talk to the fans.
alex jones
We'll do it.
Let me tell you the story.
tim pool
Let me tell you the story.
What's the story?
alex jones
Okay, so I'm not enamored by astronauts.
I think they're cool test pilots.
They've done amazing things.
The space program's real.
A lot of it's secret.
A lot of this goes on.
So I knew Charlie Sheen back before he went crazy again.
I knew him back when he was with... Maybe he just had COVID.
michael malice
He never had AIDS.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
But I knew back when... Who's his wife he married that was in Starship Troopers?
ian crossland
Oh, Denise Richards.
alex jones
Denise Richards.
michael malice
Yeah.
alex jones
So I knew him back, like imagine being at Charlie Sheen's house like 2005 and like there's a chef cooking dinner and Denise Richards is there and you're having dinner with Denise Richards.
It was fun.
He was a big listener.
His dad was the listener.
His brother, Emilio Estevez, was a listener.
You know, they're really... Martin Sheen's really Estevez.
Martin of Estevez.
michael malice
So... Is that who you bought the ranch from?
alex jones
No, I didn't buy a ranch from them.
But I'm not name-dropping.
This is a true story.
michael malice
It could be both.
alex jones
How did I even tell this story?
What was I getting into?
michael malice
Aliens.
About Charlie Sheen.
ian crossland
Black astronauts.
alex jones
Astronauts!
Yes!
So...
2005-2006-2007, I'd be out there to be on a TV show or something.
I go stay at Charlie Sheen's house.
Then he gets divorced.
It's a little more wild.
Stuff goes a little bit crazy.
I knew him for like 10 years.
Good.
Stayed there probably 50 times.
He'd send like a private wide-body jet to pick me up and fly me out there.
So did a few other people.
But I went out there and I'm sitting there and he goes, hey, Buzz Aldrin, I'm good friends with Buzz Aldrin, you should come on your show.
So Buzz Aldrin calls up comes on my show like a week later.
Then we go to dinner with Buzz Aldrin.
And Buzz Aldrin is like, look, we've got major bases on the moon.
There's there's a big equatorial water base and at the northern South Pole.
And you know, we got the base and there's an alien base, you know, at Mars, they're giving it to us.
And there's a Choron, the moon, or whatever the name of the moon is.
What's the single moon of Mars?
Phobos.
michael malice
Deimos and Phobos.
Charon is Pluto.
alex jones
Sorry, whatever it is.
He goes, we've got this transmitter base.
We've got this obelisk we communicate with them with.
And I'm like, why don't you go on my show and do that?
He comes on.
It became national news.
He's like, there's an obelisk on Mars' one moon.
We're in communication with aliens.
michael malice
Wait, Buzz Aldrin said this?
alex jones
This is Buzz Aldrin on my show.
michael malice
Can you look this up?
alex jones
I swear to God, this is real.
michael malice
I believe you.
unidentified
Everything else you've said we've looked up has been... And so he comes on.
alex jones
And about a year later, I'm at Charlie Sheen's house.
By then, he's partying.
michael malice
How is this real?
alex jones
He's partying.
And he goes, let's go to a steakhouse with Buzz Aldrin.
So Buzz Aldrin, I'm sitting there eating steak in LA and Buzz Aldrin looks me in the eyes.
He goes, Alex, the Egyptians are run by aliens.
We have the base on Mars and we've got an intergalactic agreement with them.
And he goes, but don't worry the Indians in one year.
We'll plant, we'll land a spacecraft that will crash one on the moon to find the water.
And that's the symbol of the intergalactic agreement.
I'm like, okay, I'm thinking he's crazy.
A year later, the Indians crash it onto the moon and find the water.
unidentified
And he would never come on again.
tim pool
Some of the top comments on the video say, Came here from the recent Joe Rogan.
Good to hear Buzz really talked about all this stuff.
Right, except that Joan's account is quite a bit different from the general tenor of Aldrin's remarks.
Aldrin never said that aliens built anything.
alex jones
I just told you the rest of the story.
tim pool
Oh, I was just reading some comments.
alex jones
I talked to him on the phone, and I met with him, and you can call Buzz Aldrin, he'll tell you.
ian crossland
It's possible that they told him it was aliens to throw him off, and that they, the government, built like a listening post on Mars's moon.
alex jones
Yeah, no, I don't know.
He's like, we've got an obelisk, like 2001 on the moon and all this stuff.
I'm not saying it's real.
michael malice
Hold back a second, Tim.
alex jones
Dude, I mean, I've hung out with this guy.
michael malice
Just go back in the video.
Alex, are you like me when you look at yourself with like a baby face?
You're like, oh my God, look how old we've gotten.
Does that creep you out too?
tim pool
I mean, he's pretty old here too.
How old are you, Alex?
alex jones
What creeps me out is the view count's not that high on this.
tim pool
Well, this is a re-upload.
alex jones
Yeah, they banned all of it.
What's the view count?
tim pool
That's right.
Yeah, 11,000.
With, like, Deep Space TV priorities.
ian crossland
Bob Lazar gets a lot of crap for saying that there's aliens.
I think they threw him off the trail by lying.
alex jones
Dude, I don't even... I'm telling you, I'm sitting there with Buzz Aldrin eating a steak.
He goes, the Indians are going to claim they find the water.
They're about to crash a probe in.
We already found it.
We're there.
We've got a base on the moon and I'm sitting there in like an L.A.
eating dinner with Charlie Sheen and I'm like, I've reached the twilight zone.
And then a year plus later, I'm in an airport and I look at the look at USA Today and it says they crash a probe in and make water eject up.
Type in India crashes, crashes probe on moon to find water.
I went on air and said, Buzz Aldrin says they're going to crash it to find water, and they did!
I'm on record saying it.
ian crossland
Before it happened?
Yeah.
alex jones
Excellent.
michael malice
Oh my gosh.
alex jones
I'm just telling you, man, this is... Dude, I mean, I had Buzz Aldrin on the show a couple times.
unidentified
Oh.
ian crossland
Did you find anything about the probe smashing into the moon?
I bet there's water on the moon.
I'd be shocked if there wasn't.
tim pool
Yeah, they're looking for lunar water.
alex jones
Type in Indian Space Agency crashes probe on moon to find water.
ian crossland
Dude, I got a feeling on Mars there's so much water under that iron oxide.
tim pool
Yeah, November 2008, India made the moon impact probe on board, you know, orbiter crash, local confirmed the presence of water, etc, etc.
ian crossland
Alright, whether or not there's aliens could be misinformation.
alex jones
That was kinda good.
michael malice
How are we doing the Super Chats?
tim pool
Super Chats time!
alex jones
Super Chats at Band.Video!
And InfoWars.com!
tim pool
A bunch of the... A good portion of the Super Chats are... I would just call them inappropriate.
Oh.
Some of them are calls for action.
alex jones
Ask the inappropriate ones.
tim pool
No, those are the ones I can't read.
Let me see.
Uh, A.J.
Birch says, Alex may be the only man on the planet whose feet I'd smell.
unidentified
Huh.
michael malice
Read the rest of it.
tim pool
Keep it Stexa, or whatever your shirt says.
unidentified
That's Texas, just so you know.
tim pool
I was looking at that Super Chat.
unidentified
You gotta start one more over.
tim pool
We got way too many Super Chats.
Let's see.
Dylan Keller says, I'm so sorry I missed the start of the show.
If you haven't already, please discuss the clockwork elves and extra-dimensional mantises with controversial diets.
I want to re-ask Tim's question.
How can DMT allow us to see around a spatial corner that we normally can't?
michael malice
Yeah, we're going to talk about this for half an hour now.
How much money do you think I pay for this?
unidentified
100 bucks!
alex jones
No, no.
unidentified
I've talked to a lot of people.
alex jones
I've talked to people that work for the Pentagon.
michael malice
We know!
We talked about this earlier.
This guy doesn't know how to use the rewind button.
alex jones
No, but they've gone, and not just the Pentagon people.
tim pool
No, no, he said I missed it in the show.
alex jones
These are old Dipper Japs going way back.
In Ayahuasca events in Peru and in Belize or wherever, where 50 people see the same hallucination.
michael malice
Yes, the grandmother.
alex jones
So they see the same hallucination, meaning it's not a hallucination.
It's another dimension.
This is big.
tim pool
Okay.
alex jones
You don't go to a planet to see aliens, man.
It's like the veils right there.
tim pool
Waffles Sensei says, watching Alex's face shift when Tim explained what was happening on December 14th was one of the better 1.4 seconds on the internet.
ian crossland
Yep.
The Awakening.
alex jones
I don't get it, what happened?
tim pool
So when I told you about the meteor, the comet, the meteor showers, the comet, and the solar eclipse happening on December 14th, and the electors are chosen, and then the 21st is the, it's called the super conjunction, the 800 cycle when Jupiter and Saturn align, and they become one bright big light in the sky.
alex jones
The Christmas star.
tim pool
The Christmas star, yeah.
unidentified
It's gonna be some 800- I'm a gorilla, murder yourself.
tim pool
All right, all right.
The Coconut Cabbie says Tim Pool is pure gangster for hosting these two agains.
Alex Jones, you and your products rule.
alex jones
No, let's just say it.
unidentified
In a world of weenies, you know... Tim is king.
alex jones
Tim is doing a good job.
tim pool
Until I get banned.
alex jones
Whatever.
Banned for this?
Why?
tim pool
Oh, they'll find an excuse, whatever.
Poking the bear.
PM says, this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
unidentified
I think what you meant to say, this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure this is significant for the times indeed.
You guys ever watch Zeitgeist?
michael malice
The first one?
alex jones
I was in the first Zeitgeist and he had a fake name.
It was like John Paul or Peter Joseph or what was it?
tim pool
Paul Joseph Watson.
alex jones
No, the UN pushed it.
The New York Times pushed it.
He's like, we'll live in plastic cities and camps.
Concentric circles.
concentric circles will own nothing and the computers will tell us what to do and he goes and Alex if you don't agree
you're Going to a camp for education and later he went I didn't
say that we had the video He's on my show like you will go to re-education camp, but
michael malice
it's okay So it's okay
tim pool
Hey, like that doesn't.
Just telling someone it's okay doesn't make it okay.
alex jones
Damn, I'm talking to you right now.
tim pool
This one's for Ian.
John Hutto says 99.999% of all matter is in plasma state.
Look up plasma universe.
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about.
tim pool
Interesting, possible, but not likely.
ian crossland
Electrolasers, man.
We're vaporizing matter and then recombobulating it.
tim pool
Okay, okay.
alex jones
Look, get over here.
tim pool
Here you go.
alex jones
Right here.
tim pool
Come on.
ian crossland
We're actually sublimating matter.
tim pool
Luke was supposed to come on the show.
ian crossland
I think you gotta sit on Alex's lap.
Alright, here comes Luke.
tim pool
A lot of people don't know this, but Luke is actually the illegitimate son of Vladimir Putin.
luke rudkowski
Why am I getting notifications that I'm Alex Jones's illegitimate son?
Yeah, and you're my mother.
I thought I was the genetically altered, weaponized version of you and Putin making a love child.
tim pool
No, you don't think it was?
I think a couple decades ago, the US government stole the genetic material from Putin and Jones and tried to create a super being of governmental authority, but also who can see through the veil.
And they created Luke.
And it's true.
luke rudkowski
You guys are waiting for me to say something?
alex jones
Let's go back to this.
I think Trump's better than Biden.
I wish Trump had won, but this Texas defeat, I'm not going to lie to listeners, this is a major goalpost.
luke rudkowski
What the GOP chairman just said, he's hinting at pretty much going away from the union.
When you had me on the first time, I was like, hey, Big developments.
alex jones
What's happening?
Tell us.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, well, Alan West came out with a statement and his statement essentially is hinting at the- I don't think- That's the chairman of the Texas party.
tim pool
Hinting.
Do you have the quote?
luke rudkowski
You want to read the quote?
I'm going to read the quote here.
I was going to jump in but I didn't want to.
I don't think that's a hint.
alex jones
I think he's putting it right on the nose.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I don't think that's a hint.
See how we're so careful?
It's a hint!
Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a union of states that will abide by the Constitution.
This is outlandish.
alex jones
Wow, that's civil war.
tim pool
I don't think that's a hint.
I think he's putting it right on the nose.
alex jones
Yeah, I don't think that's a hint.
See how we're so careful because the Senator's like, it's a hint.
He's like, I'm doing this.
There's no like this.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, major news that of course people should actually...
alex jones
Read that again.
That's a big deal.
The chairman of the Republican Party of Texas says we should form a new union.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, perhaps...
A more perfect union.
Indeed.
Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a union of states that will abide
by the Constitution.
And again, remember when you first had me on, this was the idea that I first said.
It might be the better thing to do than to break up the union and have certain states
go along.
alex jones
That's what you said at the start of the show.
tim pool
There was one guy a long time ago said this.
Actually, he wrote an article about it.
His name was Michael Malice.
michael malice
Thank you.
It's appreciated.
unidentified
It's crazy.
What was that?
tim pool
What's a crazy thing to advocate for, isn't it though?
I mean, I don't mean crazy and wrong.
I mean like bold and out there.
luke rudkowski
The situation we're in is crazy.
michael malice
I think what there's been an enormous asymmetry in recent 20... History repeats.
tim pool
Like a song.
michael malice
There's been an enormous asymmetry in the last 30 years between how the left and the right gets their ideas, which is someone did a—I bet you even know the number—the window between someone having an idea on Tumblr and it becoming a New York Times article was like 18 months.
And that was happening on the left, whatever loony idea, and then it becomes codified, whereas on the right, it was just kind of arguing with the left.
And then it's like, okay, we're going to throw out our own—like, here's another article I wrote.
Let's use the Obamacare law.
Which said you have to, by law, own health insurance or you could pay a fine.
Mandatory gun ownership.
You have to own a gun.
If you don't want to, you pay a fine.
That resolves the gun rights issue in one year because right away you will never be able to undo it just because of gun perforation.
What about, uh, seize all... if you're worried about privilege... No, I agree.
alex jones
We never play their game.
michael malice
Let me finish my point.
alex jones
Oh, you're mad right now?
michael malice
I love you so much.
We worry about privilege.
alex jones
I'm a gorilla.
Murder yourself.
michael malice
Seize all university endowments and distribute that money as reparations.
unidentified
These are the kind of big bull... Yeah, they'll never really do that.
alex jones
Make the left pay it!
michael malice
If you start with that as your negotiation, let them argue here instead of always trying to catch up with them.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
alex jones
I agree.
Change the subject to their own debate.
tim pool
The problem is, there's a prominent conservative faction mainstream that does nothing but chase the left.
unidentified
Correct.
michael malice
That's all they do.
alex jones
No, I agree.
Why are they always chasing the left?
michael malice
Because their job is to be either low status in that world or no status in this new right world.
alex jones
They put a lot of lightweights in there that think they're going to get power out of the system.
So here's the big question.
Do you guys realize that right now as we speak, this is on a knife's edge.
The sick part of me is they put Biden in who can't even talk.
This is even better.
What happens to the left if they actually put that crazy lunatic in?
tim pool
Well, so what's happening now is the progressives are starting to get rejected and dejected.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Black Lives Matter tweeted out on election night.
alex jones
Yeah, they're being thrown out.
tim pool
Black Lives Matter official organization tweeted, we won on, you know, in the declarative for Biden.
And now they're like, it's been 32 days and they've refused to respond to us in any meaningful way.
michael malice
It's like you got your your march for months.
And now this pig cop won't even take your calls.
tim pool
Who would have thought Kamala Harris, you know, top cop, would reject the, you know... She's in her pig pen, you know, wallowing in the mud.
michael malice
Oink, oink, MF.
alex jones
So, let's predict.
We can all procrastinate all day and procrastinate and pronasticate, whatever words those are.
michael malice
Those are all words, yeah.
alex jones
No, no, we can all make up stuff, but bottom line, where's America in one year?
Let's hear it.
tim pool
Well, we got a super chat.
Daniel Maxwell says, where does Alex think the U.S.
will be in six months?
alex jones
Procrastinate.
michael malice
You what?
alex jones
Procrastinate.
tim pool
Procrastinate?
michael malice
That's your answer?
alex jones
The superchats weren't what?
tim pool
They asked, where does Alex think the US will be in six months?
You said a year.
I said, well, the superchats asking.
alex jones
That's perfect.
You know, I think it's up to what we do, but we need to recognize this is dangerous.
And this is crazy.
So, I'll be honest, I don't know where we are in six months.
What do you think?
michael malice
I mean, I'm really... I'll give you a very easy answer, which I think no one's going to even argue with.
Marijuana laws were one example of this, which is all marijuana is illegal, right?
All marijuana dispensaries are in violation of federal laws.
They're all committing felonies every day, but there's no organizational will and the federal government to actually enforce it.
So Obama had rates and he gave up.
There is going to be wanton defiance Of these lockdowns and quarantine procedures, either on a state or municipal basis, and that is going to increase- That's a catalyst.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael malice
But exactly why would Biden- Can I please get my punchline out?
alex jones
You've been talking for hours.
unidentified
Go ahead.
tim pool
Actually, I think you got 80% of the airtime on this show.
alex jones
I did not.
Go ahead, Malice.
Malice, finish your point.
michael malice
That is going to do an enormous service towards lessening any semblance of authority that these people have over our lives, which is a very key step towards having them lose their ability power.
alex jones
Hold on.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, Alex.
Christian Del Toro says, Alex, can you tell Walter and Natalie congratulations on the birth of their baby?
alex jones
Yes, I congratulate your baby.
Can I just say something now?
tim pool
You gotta say Walter and Natalie.
alex jones
I just did it.
tim pool
Walter and Natalie, congratulations on the birth of your baby.
alex jones
Walter and Natalie, congratulations from a gorilla.
unidentified
Yes!
alex jones
Now, can we get really serious here?
tim pool
So, I wanted to answer that six months question though.
alex jones
Yeah.
tim pool
Uh, in line with what you were saying, it's something I've been saying that, uh, you know, we had Stuart Rhodes from the Oath Keepers, the largest militia in the country, said that people are not going to respect anything out of Joe Biden's mouth as legitimate.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
I think in six months, it's not just disregard for all the lockdowns.
When people start disregarding general rule of law.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
Because it's, so I'll put this, let me rephrase.
The lockdowns are so extreme, many people are just saying F you.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
They're gonna start saying F you to everything else.
In turn.
alex jones
I've got a rocket, help it.
tim pool
I think it's gonna be like, if I can say F you to this, what else is kind of irrelevant?
michael malice
Here's my prediction.
Governors to Gitmo.
Let's hope that's not what happens.
tim pool
That's civil war.
michael malice
It's not civil war.
It's the opposite of civil war.
luke rudkowski
How about we give them the vaccine first?
tim pool
I guess depending on how they get there.
alex jones
I'm really stupid, what does that mean?
michael malice
Take the governors and send them to Guantanamo Bay.
luke rudkowski
Let's give them the vaccine.
alex jones
Let's ask Biden.
michael malice
I was not doing anything right now.
tim pool
Let's ask Luke.
alex jones
Oh, you mean Stan Whitmer?
michael malice
All of them.
alex jones
And Cuomo.
tim pool
Let's ask, let's ask, let's ask Luke what he thinks is gonna happen in six months.
luke rudkowski
I think right now what we should do is have all the government officials and politicians be the first in line to get the vaccine.
And then after that I think everything will- No, no, hold on.
unidentified
Hold on.
tim pool
Let me stop right there.
In all seriousness, that's actually a really good idea.
Not for any joke.
alex jones
No, no, no, I agree.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Stop, stop, stop.
michael malice
Knock, knock.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
If they're the leaders who are supposed to be leading the charge, we cannot allow them to get sick and be taken out.
It's been a nightmare when Trump was sick, when Boris Johnson was sick.
We need to make sure they're going to remain safe, so they should be first in line to get the vaccines.
alex jones
I agree.
So how do we know they're really taking it?
Because I agree.
I want them to take it all first.
tim pool
It's just an idea.
But look, where will it be in six months?
luke rudkowski
Six months, there's going to be a lot more poverty, a lot more lockdowns, a lot more problems.
I don't see this going away.
I mean, when you look at the whole COVID-19 system that has been put in place, and the Great Reset, exactly, there's too many people benefiting off of it for it to go away.
So we have to understand that this is still going to be around.
There's going to be complications.
There's going to be poverty.
I don't think we're going to reach the boiling point in six months, but we're going to get very close to it and we're going to have to keep a very close eye on what's going on and prepare for the worst.
michael malice
Just one thing.
It's a very blue-pilled concept that is presented as a given that it has to be a civil war as opposed to a peaceful, like Czechoslovakia and all these other countries.
It does not have to happen violently.
alex jones
No, I don't want violence either, but let me explain something.
The globalists admit they're using COVID.
You've been talking.
You act like I've been interrupting.
michael malice
No, I'm asking why Lydia was making a face.
alex jones
You are meddling with the tidal forces of nature, and you will atone!
Is that clear, Mr. Malice?
michael malice
Listen, I have super male vitality.
And when I take this, not only am I unstoppable, I have the best boners on the planet.
alex jones
InfoWareStore.com.
I'm teasing him.
No, seriously, this is it.
michael malice
Here come my boners.
alex jones
The Davos group, the globalists admit they're using it as a pretext to grab power and we must say no to the lockdowns and no to the fear.
michael malice
I need these tissues.
alex jones
Alright.
tim pool
My pants are ruined.
I'm not even gonna say it.
michael malice
Skeet skeet.
alex jones
I'm a gorilla, murder yourself.
unidentified
Alright, super chat, super chat.
michael malice
Joshua Hurley says... I drank all this protein, now I got rid of some protein.
tim pool
Joshua Hurley says, Alex, what do you know about the monolith they found in gold?
What about a monolith they found, a gold one, in Colombia?
alex jones
They've been putting those up, the globalists have, to usher in, like the head of Israeli space program said, the aliens are here.
They mean we are the globalists, we are the ubermensch, and we rule you.
It's all an archetype that they're taking over right now.
So this is all like the new age.
They know we're awakening, so they want to confuse us, have us fight with each other to buy into the fact that they're in control.
They're aliens.
Well, they're not.
They're not in charge.
We're in charge.
tim pool
Pat Lynch says, oh dear, it's been nice watching you on YouTube, Tim.
You are truly going out with a bang.
I'll tell you what's gonna happen.
alex jones
I'm a gorilla.
tim pool
They'll issue a guideline strike, and then I can't upload on YouTube.
Personally, my companies can't for one week.
And I think it means we can't do a live stream on the show for an extended period of time.
alex jones
You think I'll do that for this?
tim pool
Yes, 100%.
michael malice
Tonight, we didn't do anything bad.
ian crossland
Yo, no.
michael malice
No, I'm not kidding.
ian crossland
Check it out.
michael malice
Really?
tim pool
Absolutely.
ian crossland
I want to talk about this super chat from earlier about 99.999% of the universe being plasma.
If you could do me the favor and look up a plasmoid on Wikipedia.
alex jones
What is dark matter?
ian crossland
Pull up the picture of a plasmoid real quick and you're gonna crap yourself.
unidentified
What does it look like?
ian crossland
It looks like a creature!
unidentified
Like an electromagnetic... So we're about to be arrested for a plasmoid?
ian crossland
Look at the plasmoid.
unidentified
Now this is what happens when an electromagnetic field is activated.
ian crossland
It looks like a jellyfish floating through the universe.
alex jones
No, it's a figure eight.
It's infinity.
ian crossland
And you see where we are.
It's in the upper left there.
The plasmoid exists where our stomach would be if that was one of us laying on our side.
This is what's created when a magnetic field is met.
alex jones
That's where the poopy is.
ian crossland
Dude, I think that magnetic energy is cognizant or coherent or something.
michael malice
Magnets, how do they work?
alex jones
This is the man we need.
ian crossland
Dude, we're all in this together.
alex jones
We are.
ian crossland
Brother.
alex jones
I think this should be banned from YouTube immediately.
tim pool
MaverickX says, you all keep this nonsense up every Friday and you'll get a Spotify deal as well.
Perhaps we'll need one after this.
unidentified
Yeah, we might need one.
Spotify, give me a call.
tim pool
Or YouTube's gonna be like, no, no, no, no, no, this one's okay, this one's okay.
alex jones
What have we done wrong?
We're like, I mean... Had too much fun.
tim pool
Let's see... A lot of people are mentioning Skoda's rejections, a lot of them are about Skoda's rejections, and uh... We'll discover those.
Did you give Joe Rogan a rifle?
alex jones
I did.
tim pool
But you didn't give me one.
Someone said, did Joe, did Alex bring you a rifle like he gave to Joe?
I don't think, I don't think you can.
alex jones
Tim, I will give you an $8,000...
300 Win Mag Precision Sniper Rifle.
The best Special Forces gun.
Like, this gun I bought a year ago.
tim pool
Well, let's figure out the paperwork.
alex jones
This is the best gun you can buy.
I can shoot at 600 yards, bullseye, six-round mag.
michael malice
Oh, wow.
alex jones
Boom, boom, boom.
It's laser beam power.
My favorite gun, so I gave it to Joe, because Joe's set up for free speech, but I will give you, if I can get one, they're hard to get, a 300 Win Mag Semi-Automatic Death Star Weapon.
tim pool
Well, let's fill out the paperwork.
Sounds good.
alex jones
Well, I don't have another one.
I gave him my gun.
unidentified
I don't have one.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Let's see.
Jackamoose says, Tim, I thank you for having my favorite flat earther, Alex, on once again.
alex jones
I am an... I don't believe in flat earth.
tim pool
He says, I am an Oregonian, and we have had mail-in voting for as long as I can remember.
And Kate Brown... I can't read the next part.
It's just too spicy.
alex jones
But you didn't have 80 million sent out to dead cats.
I love how I'm a flat earther.
They're always like, Jones thinks it's reptiles.
That's David Ike.
Okay, here's a... Jones says the earth's flat.
No, I didn't.
tim pool
Here's a very safe super chat.
Michael Malice is an amazing genius.
michael malice
Who said that?
tim pool
This is from MaverickX.
michael malice
Oh, I don't know who that is.
alex jones
That's your private account.
tim pool
I'm like looking at a lot of these super chats.
I'm like, I can't read that.
I can't read that.
Definitely can't read that one.
alex jones
Oh, just read it.
Why can't we read what's coming in?
michael malice
We're already sunk.
tim pool
The spiciness level of the show and the lowered threshold for what we can get away with.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
I mean, it's like, they'll cut the feed.
You know what I mean?
Like, YouTube is sitting there waiting, and they'll delete the stream mid-stream.
They do it to people all the time.
michael malice
How many dopes are watching this right now?
unidentified
106,000.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
alex jones
Well, that's big.
Keep going.
More of their questions.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
That's a huge football stadium.
alex jones
I'm so blessed.
michael malice
That's where they have child predators.
alex jones
Infowars.com.
tim pool
CERN and the Hadron Collider.
alex jones
Well, here's the deal.
This is not BS.
I remember reading this 20 years ago.
I didn't believe it.
So I went looked it up.
Their main mathematicians believe that if you run enough of these equations and enough accelerated attacks in these cyclotrons is what the Hadrian Super Collider is really a cyclotron.
They were going to build one in Texas at Waxahachie and never finished it.
So they built one even bigger in Switzerland and in France, the Hadrian Collider.
And they accelerate these electrons and different particles at above light speeds and slam into things.
And so they're able to open up gates to do this.
And they admit in the equations, look this up.
It can create a strange look.
Remember the first remake like six, seven years ago, Star Trek,
where he releases that little drop into the planet and blows it?
Yeah, that's a strange one.
It's a black hole.
And the equations say it'll create a strange little or a black hole routinely.
And these guys are in such a cult.
They are doing tests.
They could destroy the planet.
luke rudkowski
And they're very big into symbology and the occult, especially through their opening ceremonies.
If you really want to get freaked out.
alex jones
They got Shiva out there.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
Look at the opening ceremonies of the Highline Corridor and be prepared to be freaked out.
unidentified
Really?
alex jones
They're in black robes?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
unidentified
It's all occult.
luke rudkowski
It's all symbology.
It's all like, it's crazy.
alex jones
Yeah.
Forget Bohemian Grove.
Exactly.
Luke, we should go to Europe and cover the next thing.
luke rudkowski
I'll be there.
alex jones
Let's go.
tim pool
Connor Murphy, Alex and Michael, how long before you see the people left and the right turn on the police?
alex jones
Oh, here's my problem.
tim pool
I'll tell you.
I'm, uh, listen, listen.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
I know I'm cutting in because you know, do you guys see the second autonomous zone in Portland, the red house autonomous zone?
So I completely disagree with Antifa expanding their borders outside and surrounding other homes and taking over these streets.
But I'll tell you this right now, I'm not going to give any sympathy or respect to cops who are evicting people from their homes at a time when the government took away their ability to make money.
And so they can't pay their bills.
alex jones
That's what I was going to say.
I was driving here.
I meant to make the point.
You can't say you're non-essential and then bankrupt somebody to be evicted and then take them out of their house.
tim pool
Exactly.
alex jones
You can't.
That's what they're saying in New York.
Like, my bar can't stay open?
I'm going bankrupt?
tim pool
And then the cops are the ones who are coming and violating the Constitution.
I call them oath breakers.
And like in New York, we have the right to peaceably assemble, to live our lives, pursue happiness, the 14th Amendment.
And the cops come and say, we don't care.
Just give us money.
alex jones
Oath breakers.
I want to be clear.
You've been following me for a long time.
I followed you.
I used to be Mr. Anticop.
michael malice
That's me.
alex jones
Well, yeah, but I don't like arbitrary authority.
I don't like thugs.
The average cop isn't that but the systems corrupt.
michael malice
The average cop is most certainly that.
alex jones
Okay, fine.
All I'm saying is blaming the average cop Makes us blame the cop instead of the political system to change the laws.
michael malice
Give me a fucking break.
If a German shepherd can do your job, maybe we're using the word hero a little bit loosely.
Every single law passed by these governors and senators is a love letter to Santa without these men and women in badges willing to enforce these laws.
I'm not going to get talked over on this one.
alex jones
I'm not disagreeing with you that cops aren't bad a lot of the time.
They're bad.
michael malice
I'm going to finish my point whether you like it or not.
alex jones
Blaming the TSA is a cop-out.
We've got to blame the political system.
michael malice
Cop-out is exactly the goal.
Get rid of these damn cops.
And I'm going to make my point.
Every single one of these laws and lockdowns and quarantines... They're not laws.
luke rudkowski
Every... Decrees.
tim pool
They're not laws.
alex jones
Yeah, they're martial laws.
michael malice
I'm going to start from the beginning until I get my point.
I don't care.
unidentified
Right, right.
alex jones
But if you say they're laws... I'm saying if people stop blaming the cops and blame the laws, we'll change the goddamn laws.
michael malice
I don't care what you're saying.
I care what I'm saying.
There's no law.
And what I'm saying is...
tim pool
Every single law that is passed by these governors and senators that violate the Constitution are love letters to Santa without men and women in badges willing to enforce them on innocent people.
alex jones
You too, go ahead, make your point.
michael malice
Every single law that is passed by these governors and senators that violate the Constitution
are love letters to Santa without men and women in badges willing to enforce them on
innocent people.
Every single cop does this knowingly and consciously all the time.
Every cop is a criminal without exception.
Many of them are nice people, many of them are smart people, they're all criminals.
tim pool
So the cops who quit, who are on video, who pull up and they're like, I'm quitting, I won't do this.
Or all the sheriffs who have said no.
michael malice
I don't have a road to redemption like Jack Dorsey for these people.
For years, they keep us unsafe in our homes.
I'm in New York, where's my Second Amendment rights?
I'm only unsafe because of these damn No, Michael, I get your point.
alex jones
You're absolutely right.
I'm saying blaming the average cop, though, we should change the law and take the government over.
michael malice
Yeah, we just gotta vote in the right people, Alex.
alex jones
Okay, so let's blame the cops.
What do we do?
michael malice
First of all, have increased contempt for them by the citizenry, which is starting to happen.
unidentified
Second of all, realize that they are the teeth of the- But Soros wants that because he wants to take the cops over.
michael malice
Just because Soros wants it doesn't mean it's automatically wrong.
Number one, the cops are the ones who are implementing Soros' vision, aren't they?
alex jones
Yeah, they are.
michael malice
Yeah, that's my point.
So to have privatized police, just same way you don't have a government monopoly on health care, there's makes no sense of a government monopoly on security.
tim pool
You want to hear a story?
In Pennsylvania, they have really great gun rights.
Not the best, but a lot better than other places.
New Jersey is called one of the evil seven, where they have basically no gun rights.
It's very, very difficult.
There was a story I was told where a woman was from Pennsylvania and she wanted to go to Atlantic City, which is like a 45 minute drive, maybe an hour drive from Philadelphia.
So, she was just some doofy little normie woman, didn't really know much, and she made the mistake of legally owning a weapon and driving to Atlantic City and got pulled over.
Being the good citizen she was, she respectfully and politely told the officer that she was carrying her weapon.
And the officer said, oh, thank you, ma'am, please step out of your vehicle.
And she goes, okay, and she gets out because she's good.
Place your hands behind your back, you're under arrest, it's a felony.
She got charged with a felony and she was looking at, like, four years in prison.
And the NRA intervened, and that's the only reason she didn't go to prison.
alex jones
I know the story, yeah.
tim pool
There's a story I remember when I was growing up in Chicago.
This was when I was, like, 20.
A woman from, I think, Kentucky or Tennessee had a legal concealed carry, and she had a revolver.
She was in her 70s.
She went to visit Chicago for the first time to go to the... We call it the Sears Tower.
It's the Willis Tower now.
And as she was preparing to go in, there was a metal detectors and she informed them.
She's like, I do have my concealed carry with me.
And they said, all right, this way, ma'am.
And they walked her and they cuffed her and they came felony charge.
She went to prison for years.
She went to prison, an old woman.
And I wonder about this.
I was talking to a guy at a shop and I said, When a person is clearly from Philadelphia where it's completely legal, they're a law-abiding citizen, this lady was apparently like, you know, late 40s, you know, old mom woman, wanted to go to spend the weekend in Atlantic City and have fun by herself.
Who is this cop to be like, I'm gonna put you in prison for this?
alex jones
There are bad cops that implement tyranny, I agree.
tim pool
You know what he could have done?
He could have said, ma'am, It's actually illegal what you're doing, but I'm going to tell you this.
I'm going to give you an escort back to Philadelphia.
Please, you know, don't bring that back into the state because- No, you're right.
alex jones
There are cops implementing tyranny and they're bad.
tim pool
Oathbreaker.
alex jones
I'm saying we need to change the laws.
I used to attack the TSA all day long until they were like listeners.
Like, please be nice to us.
We're just trying to get paid our job.
Please change the law.
michael malice
I'm just gonna shit you like garbage and I'm getting paid for you.
I need my respect.
You know what they call them in Britain?
The filth.
And with good reason.
The cops?
Yes.
alex jones
And the TSA.
It's easy to shit on the cops all day.
michael malice
You know why?
Because they are shit.
alex jones
Because they got problems.
michael malice
Who doesn't have problems?
alex jones
I'm gonna tell you, it's a cop-out to blame the cops.
Screw bad cops.
You gotta change the law, man!
michael malice
There are no good cops.
alex jones
Okay, fine.
All the cops are bad.
But let's say there's no... I'm saying, change the law.
Stop copping out to say it's the cops.
We have to change the law.
michael malice
The Second Amendment guarantees my right to a gun, and I do not have it.
These laws are a joke, and you know they're a joke.
alex jones
This is what you talk about all the time.
michael malice
But they're not... That makes them hypocrites!
tim pool
Oathbreakers.
michael malice
If you put your hands on a young person who is selling drugs and you put them to get arrested and have them be traumatized, you are the enemy of civilized human beings.
alex jones
I don't think nonviolent people should be in prison, and I'm not a worshipper of the police, and I should be the main guy attacking the police.
I'm saying we don't get reform that way, let's change the laws.
michael malice
I don't believe in reform, I believe in abolition.
You want a reform?
tim pool
You want to abolish the police?
michael malice
Of course!
tim pool
I didn't know that.
Explain.
michael malice
I just explained it earlier.
alex jones
If everybody was basically armed, who then gets somebody to go to court when somebody steals your car or steals your house?
michael malice
You've been involved in legal systems, as I have, and you know perfectly well... Private wars.
And also how expensive they are, how much the average person does not have access to legal services.
You have to buy a lawyer, which costs more than buying a surgeon.
If you had a private system where there's private adjudication, which we have already, it would be a lot easier things to get resolved quickly and you'd have a lot more access to free situations and you would have ratings for these different legal systems.
luke rudkowski
What?
tim pool
I don't want to interrupt you, I was just saying.
luke rudkowski
Luke agrees.
That was my point.
I was gonna say, the elites don't really follow the laws just like Jeffrey Epstein and their friends.
alex jones
Just like they don't pay taxes!
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they don't pay taxes.
tim pool
Do you know that the politicians, there's an old saying, I don't know, it's been a long time since I've been there, but the local politicians in Chicago are allowed to carry concealed.
michael malice
What about Mayor Bloomberg?
alex jones
Well, no, all the Democrats get to go get their hair cut.
tim pool
Yeah, and they get to have armed security guards.
michael malice
Here's the thing.
If you were a Trump voter, which that's your prerogative, if you thought there was any chance that Hillary Clinton was going to jail, you are so removed from reality, I don't even know.
tim pool
Oh, seriously.
alex jones
She'll release all the other info.
michael malice
It's not even that.
These people never get consequences.
When did I mean a Hillary Clinton, Richard Nixon, none of these people go to jail, they never have consequences.
Alex, you talk about this constantly.
How many receipts do you have over the years of these horrible people admitting to horrible things and nothing ever comes of it?
alex jones
Well, Epstein finally got his neck broken.
michael malice
Sure.
luke rudkowski
But how many stories died with him?
How many victims never got justice with that execution?
alex jones
No, I agree.
They got rid of his ass.
michael malice
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Well, then.
alex jones
It's a very light show.
tim pool
Yeah, very, very easy going.
alex jones
Very powerful show, actually.
tim pool
I actually, I think Michael is completely wrong.
I think we need to do the opposite of abolish the police.
We need to make everyone a cop.
michael malice
Yes, that's anarchy.
luke rudkowski
Deputize everyone.
michael malice
Deputize Mountain Dew.
Mountain Dew, he teaches you to hate cops.
alex jones
Here's my deal.
I get people are mad at authority, and I want an American Republic, limited government.
There's some role with police.
I'm not in a police ass-kissing position.
I'm just saying, just blaming the cops becomes a cop-out.
michael malice
You're just talking in circles.
What does that mean, a cop-out?
There's plenty of blame to go around when you're dealing with tyranny.
tim pool
I think, you know, I think when you blame the cops, it's a surface-level assessment.
Let me ask you a question.
Here's what I'm saying.
You're not wrong, but the deep-seated issues that have resulted in this problem won't be solved by just saying, Something-something police.
michael malice
I agree that if you cure COVID, you're not curing cancer.
I'm just saying they are cancer.
tim pool
That's all I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that there is a problem in this country where people walk into the voting booth and say D or R and they ignore who they're voting for.
These people then get in and say, what's the easiest path?
I don't care about this.
michael malice
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
alex jones
All right, in closing, let's talk about Secret Space Program.
tim pool
Well, we only have a couple more minutes, I think.
alex jones
Yeah, we're done then.
tim pool
Well, everybody, this has been a fun career for me.
And thanks to YouTube, I was I reached a million subs and said,
Okay, I'm done.
I'll just have the craziest show possible.
And then the first time they gave me a warning.
michael malice
And this is one thing all seriousness.
One of the best things about 2020 is how so many more conservatives
are being skeptical about police because there's so many videos.
No, no, I agree with the lockdown.
People like, all right, they're not angels.
They're flawed.
And that's all I am.
unidentified
The gorilla. Murder yourself.
tim pool
It's been nice knowing you, everybody.
alex jones
What I'm getting at is, you're right.
I'm just saying, the police are the low level of the government.
michael malice
They're the low, yeah.
alex jones
So if you have a problem with government, you should change the laws, blaming police as a cop-out.
It's so fashionable to attack police, and police have problems.
michael malice
What's wrong with being fashionable?
We can't all be sitting in Texas shirts.
alex jones
All I'm saying is, is that no one should visit band.video.
People say, where's Alex Jones?
I'm at infowars.com.
michael malice
You're saying they should instead go to governors2gitmo.com and get their free shirt?
tim pool
Is that a real website?
ian crossland
Infowars.com.
michael malice
It's not free.
alex jones
I'm a gorilla.
It's not free.
Murder yourself.
tim pool
Oh man.
alex jones
This is CNN.
tim pool
Pizza and drinks.
alex jones
Closed capture provided by Tim Pool.
tim pool
That's right.
So I'll just put it this way.
Look, when, uh, when we did the first show, it was, it was massive.
And then, uh, they took the show down and I immediately was like, you guys got to come back.
alex jones
And you were fair.
Cause I get, I was talking so fast.
Well, I think I was like, I said something I didn't say.
I was going to say, I love Bill Gates.
I love you.
tim pool
No, I think you assumed he said the same thing I thought he assumed.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I guess that was... But YouTube clarified it didn't matter what we thought, even the joke itself was bannable.
michael malice
Wow.
Yeah, so that's BS.
It's complete BS.
tim pool
What was the joke?
I'm not gonna repeat it.
michael malice
Off the air, because we're gonna ban it again.
tim pool
I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I'm a gorilla.
alex jones
Murder yourself.
tim pool
So, uh, Michael, do you have a social media you want to tell people about?
michael malice
Twitter.com slash Michael Malice and malice.locals.com.
tim pool
And it'll be, uh, this is the last big shout out.
So, um, while you can, you can follow me on Twitter.
Well, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler.
I'm not going anywhere on those platforms at TimCast, but for my other YouTube channels, youtube.com slash TimCast and youtube.com slash TimCastNews.
But, uh, seriously, the worst case scenario, they told me that I'll get a seven week suspension and this show gets shut down for us.
unidentified
Seven week or seven day?
tim pool
But why are they doing that?
alex jones
You do a good show.
People are like, oh, Tim's being a wimp.
You have a lot of courage.
Infowars.com.
tim pool
Seven, if this one gets put on their radar and they strike, for seven days, I can't upload anything.
And it's very likely that we can't do this show for an extended period of time, like until there's
some kind of like, it could be three months.
alex jones
But why are they doing that?
You do a good show.
It's like really reasonable.
tim pool
You know, I don't know, whatever.
It is what it is.
It was funny because a lot of people were, like, accusing me of copping out because the show got pulled.
I'm like, I didn't pull the show down, YouTube did!
michael malice
I saw the conspiracy.
I'm not joking.
alex jones
You tried to get me back, like, a week later.
I was already gone.
unidentified
No, not even.
tim pool
I said, come back the next Monday.
michael malice
There was a conspiracy theory going around Twitter that said you called YouTube and asked them to pull it so you'd have more controversy.
Because you make your videos unlisted.
So that's where they're getting that from.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Well, they're not on the list anymore.
They're all gone.
alex jones
It wasn't a week later.
I was here on the weekend.
You're like, can you come back tomorrow?
I'm like, sorry, I don't have a babysitter.
Yeah, that's right.
You'll be like on Sunday or Monday.
tim pool
I said, the next show is Monday.
Can you guys come back?
And you said, maybe.
I said, Michael.
And Michael's like, I can do it.
Well, actually, you were like, it's tough.
And then you were like, I got a family.
And I was like, I get it.
And then this was the soonest we could make it happen.
alex jones
My parents were keeping the children.
Yeah, it's crazy.
No, that was not made up by Tim.
They banned it.
They banned it all because they took something out of context we can't say.
tim pool
And then they changed it later when they got called out for it.
So I can't specify because... Yeah, they moved to another infraction I made.
No, it was the same one, but they just changed the rules.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
So.
alex jones
Oh, I didn't know that.
michael malice
It's kind of like how the cops, you know, enforce what they want.
unidentified
So, uh, Ian, well, while Luke is already sitting there, you want to shout out your... Well, thank you, Tim, for your courage and thank you for letting me live in your parking lot.
luke rudkowski
I appreciate that.
And my YouTube channel is We Are Change.
unidentified
We Are Change on YouTube.
tim pool
It's you know it you're just here because once they ban me, and I'm broke.
I'm gonna become moochin off of you be like well That's right Luke Luke Luke Luke.
luke rudkowski
I was there with Max Keiser in at the Bilderberg meeting Oh my god, and I told him I told him too.
I was like Max.
You're crazy.
Leave me alone I gotta fight the globalists.
alex jones
So wait a minute, I didn't know this.
I forgot you were there.
Was he not giving us millions of bitcoins?
luke rudkowski
Yes, and I was like bug off Max leave me alone.
I'm sick and tired of you telling me about your little nerd money.
alex jones
I'm here to make teddy bears Let's end this with this.
Tell the story.
I forgot.
What was that thing north of London?
What's that town called?
luke rudkowski
What was it?
unidentified
Delford?
luke rudkowski
No.
Bedford?
I forgot.
But we shut down the town.
alex jones
We had like 5,000 people.
luke rudkowski
Minimum.
Minimum.
There's people that couldn't attend our rally because there was too many people.
alex jones
Prime Minister came in and Bilderberg got exposed.
Remember back then, there's no world government.
There's no secret banker meeting.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
alex jones
But they would deny Davos.
luke rudkowski
The mainstream media was telling you there was no Bilderberg.
It never existed.
tim pool
What are you talking about?
You're crazy.
I remember this when it was like the crazy conspiracy and then a funny thing happened.
There was this journalist who was always on an Occupy and the Guardian made him go cover it and he was like, what is this?
And then all of a sudden it was like, this is a real thing.
luke rudkowski
Charlie Skelton, amazing writer, does amazing work, and he covers Bilderberg every year.
michael malice
Same thing with the deep states.
Trump's crazy, Trump's crazy, you're paranoid, there's no deep state.
Then the next year, thank gosh, the deep state is keeping us from Trump.
alex jones
Go over a few of those cards.
tim pool
Let's let Luke and Ian shout out real quick.
luke rudkowski
So yeah, my YouTube channel, We Are Change.
Ian, come over here.
alex jones
Banned our video.
ian crossland
My only regret is that we didn't talk about space aliens.
tim pool
We did.
unidentified
We did a little bit.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
They don't come in saucers.
It's interdimensional.
They're in the other dimensions.
It's all ethereal.
ian crossland
It's inside you.
michael malice
It's behind the mirror.
ian crossland
And outside you.
Okay.
Thanks everyone.
Follow me at Ian Crossland.
tim pool
And of course you can follow at Sour Patch Lids, who's been pushing the buttons the whole time.
unidentified
I have been badly pushing buttons tonight.
Oh my goodness.
I'm a gorilla.
tim pool
A lot of fun.
unidentified
Peace out, I guess.
Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.
tim pool
And I guess we'll find out if I will see you in the next week or so.
alex jones
You may go to the Phantom Zone for what you've done.
tim pool
Well, everybody, thanks for hanging out, and again, if I'm uploading tomorrow, I will, and if not, I'll be taking a great vacation.
You see, that's the best part of this, is I get to take a week off, I get to go fishing, I get to go kayaking, and all that stuff, and then I can be like, it's not my fault, I can't work, it's Alex Jones and Michael Malice!
alex jones
Missouri is beautiful.
unidentified
I know, right?
michael malice
It's wonderful.
tim pool
It's a thousand lakes or something, isn't it?
Is that Missouri?
michael malice
No, that's Minnesota.
tim pool
That's Minnesota.
I said that last time, didn't I?
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, everybody!
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