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Nov. 21, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Kyle Rittenhouse RELEASED, Weird SCOTUS Move Has Rumors Of Trump w/ Hotep Jesus
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unidentified
So we got, we got some crazy news.
tim pool
We got some breaking news.
I guess Kyle Rittenhouse has been released on bail.
And we've got some we got we got the just that story.
I guess he's out.
He's not proven not guilty or anything like that.
But he's out on bail.
And we learned about his gun and like the weird he bought a gun with a COVID check or something like that.
So we'll talk about that.
We got some other weird stories.
So apparently, I don't know if this is weird at all.
It might be totally normal, but people are kind of spreading rumors because there's been new Supreme Court assignments as of today for the circuits.
And Amy Coney Barrett was basically placed in charge of Wisconsin.
And Brett Kavanaugh is now in charge of Pennsylvania, which is very convenient for Donald Trump.
So we'll talk about all this.
Keep the intro short this time, but we're joined by the one and only Hotep Jesus.
hotep jesus
Tim Cass.
tim pool
How's it going, man?
hotep jesus
Mr. Tim Pool.
tim pool
What up?
hotep jesus
Life is good, man.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate you.
Thanks for coming, man.
I made sure... Let them hear that in the mic.
I brought you a beanie, man.
unidentified
Oh, snap!
tim pool
You brought me a beanie.
hotep jesus
Hotep Nation beanie.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
I couldn't let you walk around this earth and not have an alternative beanie.
Correct.
And here's a Hotep Nation lanyard.
tim pool
Lanyard!
Right on, man.
Wow, thanks, dude.
No one's ever... Has anybody given me something on the show like that?
unidentified
I don't think so.
I like this.
lydia smith
It's super awesome.
hotep jesus
HOTEP Nation comes bearing gifts.
Yeah, I love it.
tim pool
Right on, dude.
So, yeah, what's up?
We got a lot to talk about, for sure.
hotep jesus
Yeah, your friend over here, say your name.
ian crossland
Yeah, Ian Crossland.
hotep jesus
Ian Crossland.
Thank you, HOTEP.
Pleasure to meet you.
ian crossland
You too, man.
hotep jesus
You asked me, what does HOTEP mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Okay, so I'm gonna tell you.
So, Hotep is an ancient metanarrative word, or ancient Cometian, or ancient Egyptian.
This is the language they spoke in ancient Egypt.
And Hotep meant peace or satisfaction, to be at rest, and there's like nine other definitions.
So, where should we start the story?
Okay, how did I become Hotep Jesus?
Let's just get this knocked out the way now.
So, right around the time that Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and all those guys get murdered, right?
Um, there became this like clear divide between the black left and us.
I, at this time, this is like us, the hotep or what?
Hoteps.
Yes.
At this time, I didn't know what a conservative was, let alone a black conservative.
So I found out about conservatives.
I was like, oh, they got black conservatives.
Wow.
unidentified
This is pretty cool.
hotep jesus
So, um, it became, hotep was a pejorative.
It became like a word of slander.
HOTEPs can loosely be described as the conservative arm of the black community, right?
Interesting.
We're so-called the consciousness of the black community.
They kind of push us to the side and lambast us and we're the stepchildren.
But we're the ones that give them their consciousness.
That word melanin that they love to run around with?
Yeah, our ancestors, our HOTEP ancestors were the ones that put that on their desk.
We're the ones that placed that memorandum there.
Um so yeah so they made it a pejorative and then I was at the time I had went through a real spiritual awakening so I was speaking I was tweeting very spiritually and uh some troll was like what do you think you are some sort of hotep Jesus?
I was like damn that has a ring to it.
unidentified
Yes I do.
Yeah so I was like you know what Yeah, I do think I'm Hotel Jesus.
hotep jesus
And then the star was born.
tim pool
Right on.
Cool.
unidentified
Excellent.
tim pool
So we're also hanging out with Ian, of course.
ian crossland
Yes, hello to you.
unidentified
Ian's there.
tim pool
Lydia's producing.
lydia smith
I'm here as well, of course.
tim pool
And yeah, make sure you subscribe.
Hit the like button.
Hit that notification bell.
Show's live on Friday at 8 p.m.
But let's jump right into it.
That's interesting.
You're talking about the Black Lives Matter stuff.
Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin was the start of what uh what it started black uh black lives matter so this breaking news we got let's just do the breaking news first because this is particularly relevant kyle rittenhouse released from kenosha county jail after bond posted it's it's pretty straightforward that's the story right so you know but there's little details they say that the teen was fatally charged with shooting two protests in kenosha many of you probably know about this this was in wisconsin
He is no longer in custody at the Kenosha County Jail, a spokesperson for the sheriff said in a statement.
Kenosha County prosecutors charged Rittenhouse of Antioch, Illinois with fatally shooting Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber during a protest over a police shooting in August.
They've also charged him with wounding a third man, Gage Grosskreutz.
Rittenhouse faces multiple counts, including intentional homicide and illegally possessing a gun.
His attorneys contend he was acting in self-defense.
The case has been a rallying point for conservatives.
Yeah, yeah, we don't need that stuff.
They say in a phone interview with the Washington Post, Rittenhouse revealed the gun he used in the shooting was purchased using money he received from an unemployment check during the coronavirus pandemic.
Basically, his COVID stimulus check used to buy a gun.
hotep jesus
Smart, man.
tim pool
Rittenhouse, I'd say.
I mean, he's in hot water right now.
Rittenhouse17 could not legally purchase the weapon himself, so he gave the money to a friend to buy it for him, according to both Rittenhouse and police reports.
That's crazy.
That's messed up.
He says, I got my $1,200 from the coronavirus Illinois unemployment because I was on furlough from the YMCA.
I got my first unemployment check, so I was like, oh, I'll use it to buy it, he told the Post.
Prosecutors have charged a Wisconsin man with supplying the gun.
That's crazy.
In his interview, Rittenhouse said he doesn't regret having the gun that night, saying, I had to protect myself.
I would have died that night if I didn't.
So, man, I mean, that's the breaking news.
Right off the bat, I'd be interested to hear what you think about Kyle Rittenhouse.
hotep jesus
I like Kyle Rittenhouse.
He's a hero.
unidentified
Wow.
hotep jesus
He's an American hero.
He's a kid who took a stimulus check and bought guns.
tim pool
Yeah, but he wasn't legally allowed to and someone did it illegally for him.
That's not cool.
hotep jesus
That's unconstitutional to put an age on how old you can be to buy guns and it's unconstitutional.
tim pool
There was a- something recently came out, I can't remember exactly what it was, but they said that there's a different- that the current Supreme Court is gonna interpret 2A very differently.
I can't remember who I was talking to about this.
hotep jesus
Sure.
tim pool
But they were like, we might start seeing a bunch of changes to these laws that we got.
You know, in California, they ruled- I think the Ninth Circuit ruled that- Sticks.
Magazine size you can't restrict that that's a violation of Second Amendment, so we'll see if that you know hit the
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
rest of the country Yeah sticks, but there was something like somebody was
telling me I can't remember who they said that it's likely that with the Supreme Court
We're gonna start seeing the nitpicking of all these laws like oh this thing can't be used, but that thing can't be
used That's gonna go away
Yeah Speaking of unconstitutional.
hotep jesus
The inevitability of communism.
tim pool
Is that what you think?
hotep jesus
It's the slithering dragon.
It's the snake.
And it just finds its way into your backyard and bites your child when you're not looking.
That's what it does.
They're trying to bite us right now with the vaccine.
They're trying to take our guns away.
They're trying to take our speech away.
That's what communism does, man.
You know, but, uh, Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero in my eyes.
He stood up for what he believed in.
And looking at the video footage of the shooting, I didn't see a guy purposely trying to murder somebody.
I saw somebody running for his life.
tim pool
saying he was going to the cops.
hotep jesus
Saying he was going to the cops. Indeed. And there was a bit of a
verbal skirmish at the gas station prior to and one of the gentlemen who got his wig split. He said go ahead shoot me.
MFR This is what one of those guys said.
tim pool
I think that was Rosenbaum, wasn't it?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then he chased after him.
hotep jesus
Then he chased after him and he got exactly what he asked for, which is unfortunate.
It's unfortunate to have anybody lose their life over this political divide that the media has created.
So, you know, shouts go to his family and condolences to them.
I just find it ironic that he asked for it and he got it.
You know, God speaks in mysterious ways.
But Kyle Rittenhouse, I thought he was defending himself.
tim pool
I think so.
I think that's clear.
I think it's weird that they decided to do, like, the harshest possible charges imaginable to this kid.
And then the media went nuts, just lying about everything.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I heard them call him everything from right wing to white supremacist.
Thank you, white supremacist.
unidentified
I'm like, he took out two other white dudes.
tim pool
And the third guy that got shot was a white.
It's just the media game, man.
And so I talk to people all the time.
They have no idea what happened.
We had, you know, we had the people that were actually on the ground covering it, the riot squad.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
So we had, you know, like Shelby Talcott, Richie McGinnis, who else is in the crew?
lydia smith
Jorge Ventura.
tim pool
Jorge Ventura.
There was one other, someone else was in the crew.
lydia smith
No, I think it was those three.
tim pool
Those three.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They were actually there watching it all happen, and I also talked to... There's a bunch of people down there that were covering it.
The rioters lit a dumpster on fire and tried pushing it into a gas station.
And that's what started it all.
So then you get... There's a video of Kyle Rittenhouse running with a fire extinguisher.
You have to talk to them who were on the ground.
But basically, him and these dudes are trying to put these fires out.
If they push a dumpster into a gas station, they blow it up.
That's gonna be real bad.
But because he did that, they attacked him.
And that's the stuff that the media doesn't talk about.
They just say, you know, Facebook, if you, I guess if you praise him in any way, Facebook, like they ban you or something like that or suspend you.
hotep jesus
Really?
tim pool
Super strict.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube comes after us over the way we're talking about it.
hotep jesus
Oh, let me calm down.
Let me calm down.
tim pool
I mean, look, if it's, if, if, if, if it's true, it's true.
And if you feel that way, you feel that way.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not going to throw this kid under the bus because the media is threatening to ban me or social media says they'll ban me.
Now we got to tell people what really happened.
lydia smith
Well, the only thing that I would add to this conversation is that a bunch of people agree with you, Hotep, because he raised two million dollars for bail.
tim pool
That's crazy.
lydia smith
And I don't think that it came out of his parents' pocket.
That came from people who really think that he was in the right.
unidentified
Did it though?
tim pool
Did they fundraise for that?
lydia smith
I think they crowdfunded it, yeah.
I truly believe that to be the case.
unidentified
Wow, man.
tim pool
So what do you think about these riots, man?
So, you know, like, kind of a segue away from just the specific Kyle Rittenhouse stuff.
We've had a year of all this, all this riots.
Things have kind of calmed down a little bit, but I think it's gonna, I think it'll light up again, depending on what happens with Trump.
But just in the context of, you're saying, you know, the HOTEP thing came out of Black Lives Matter, there was like a split.
So just your general thoughts, man.
hotep jesus
So I have to give you a history on Black Lives Matter.
tim pool
That'd be important.
lydia smith
Yeah.
hotep jesus
So that's going to take us back to what's that city?
Darren Sills, Ferguson.
Thank you.
Ferguson.
This is right outside of St.
Louis, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's part of the St.
Louis County.
hotep jesus
All right.
So, uh, a brother by the name of Darren Sills is a community organizer out there.
And, uh, he was, he was right there with Mike Brown's mom.
You know, the night after we shot, you know, the whole nine, through the whole, whole thing.
And, uh, the first night, like I always tell people with these things, the first night is usually very peaceful.
There's people demonstrating, they're upset, they're marching, they're venting, right?
And then he said that he saw some white kids pop up.
and try to instigate with the police.
They would pop up, throw stuff at the police and then disappear into the night.
So we saw the precursor to Antifa, basically.
And I was telling people at the time that I was like, hey, you know, there's like people that are infiltrating these things.
So he did a expose on Black Lives Matter and he exposed them, talk about, you know, how they came down with the media.
A lot of people were taking credit for his work and the organization that he did and got those people out in those streets.
Um, and then, uh, you know, he's talking about those guys were cutting checks.
They were sitting up in the house.
Donations were coming in and none of it went to Ferguson, right?
It all went to people's pockets.
And these big checks were coming to some of these organizers.
So the organizers getting paid to just basically protest, but none of it went to the actual community.
Um, and mysteriously he was murdered.
Um, so, you know, I just liked every time I talk about black lives matter in history, I got a shout out Darren Sills.
tim pool
Was he the dude they found him in the car or was that somebody?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy story, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because I was down there a few days after everything kicked off.
I was in and out as the court case was going on.
And then I remember hearing a lot of people were pointing out that some of the OG activists were turning up dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Some people were saying it's a grand conspiracy.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that happened to some people.
hotep jesus
Sure as hell look like it.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
But that's tough, man.
How do you prove something like that?
hotep jesus
You know, I don't touch stuff like that.
That's not my job.
I'm sure there's people out there that would risk their life to find out the truth.
I think we understand what happened out there.
I think a lot of us understand the truth.
Of what happened at Darren Sales.
But, you know, RIP to Darren Sales.
He was a soldier.
He was a, you know, a true community leader.
He gave back his own money and his own time to the community.
Very important black man.
And F anybody, you know, who came out to Ferguson and stole money.
That was terrible.
It's just terrible people do that.
tim pool
I got a quick story for you, man.
So I was down there, I can't remember which night it was, but riots erupted.
A bunch of people start running into, I think it was a dollar store across the street, I'm not sure, smashing the windows.
And then a bunch of young dudes from Ferguson linked arms in front of the liquor store, like that's the one where Michael Brown went to.
To stop the rioting and then I walked I was I was standing right by there There's another journalist and this journalist from Al Jazeera asked these guys like what are you doing?
And they said the people riding and destroying our community don't live here.
They're coming from outside and they're destroying everything.
They're burning down our buildings They're like we got a we live here.
We work here.
These are our stores.
Why are they doing this?
And then what do we get from Antifa?
They're writing articles like in defense of looting Yeah.
No joke.
That article became a book, apparently.
And so I'm sitting there watching these guys beg, like, please don't destroy our home.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And these other people come in, they're smashing up everything.
And then these, you know, white upper class progressives defend the villains, the people destroying the community.
hotep jesus
Well, they're defending themselves.
They always tell people anytime some of this stuff happens, you have to understand that day one is going to be looting.
And that that stuff is is somewhat organic.
Uh, when you see the fire, that's usually white antifa.
You know what I mean?
Like I always say, I always say, you know, black folks, we might be kleptomaniacs, but white folks is definitely pyromaniacs.
That's my, that's my running joke, you know?
But when you see the fire, usually that's antifa.
Um, And people try to identify that as, like, Black Lives Matter.
People will say, oh, they're burning down their own neighborhood.
I'm like, no, that's paid protesters and antagonists.
That's Bolshevik money.
tim pool
Dude, they're like rich kids who are bored.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And I, dude, I'll tell you this, man.
I know some people who've got some legit money.
And it's not so much that the people I've met in these things are... I've never seen anybody who's paid to do anything like that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But I've met people who are well-off and fund their friends to go out and do that.
hotep jesus
Indeed.
Indeed.
And that's exactly what we see happening here.
And that's the problem with Black Lives Matter organization, like my homie Wordsmith said.
Where the money at?
Where the money at?
tim pool
There's some high-profile activists, people keep asking where's the money at.
hotep jesus
Yeah, where's the money?
Where did the money go?
Over a hundred million was raised, I think, in just one year alone.
So I know they got a big bad sitting somewhere.
That money never makes it to the community.
That's what happens when you deal with slimy Democrats, Socialists, and Marxists, man.
tim pool
You just don't mince words.
Yeah, you're right.
So Black Lives Matter was raising money through Thousand Currents.
Do you know about that?
hotep jesus
They were raising money through what?
tim pool
I think it's called Thousand Currents.
It's a charity.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
And so because Black Lives Matter didn't have their own charity.
hotep jesus
Right, they used another.
tim pool
But then those donations are collected through ActBlue.
hotep jesus
Yeah, the payment mechanism.
tim pool
So you had a lot of people saying that the Black Lives Matter was money was going straight to Joe Biden, but it's not.
hotep jesus
No.
tim pool
But a percentage of all that Black Lives Matter money goes to a fundraising platform for Democrats.
So they take their fee, right?
So it's not direct cash being given to the Democrats, but it's funding partly their fundraising apparatus.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I mean, take 5% of 100 million, whatever that is, right?
I mean, if you look at the fine print, ActBlue is the payment mechanism.
So we're not saying it's going directly, but whatever ActBlue money makes off of per transaction is going to the Democratic Party.
It's going to their ActBlue... I think it's another, like, PAC or something like that.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, so this is crazy.
A percentage of the money goes to their operations or whatever, right?
They use it to fund their operations.
But they also have some kind of provision where if the organization doesn't collect it, then they can disperse it.
hotep jesus
Yes, yes, exactly.
Yes, I saw that too.
That's in the fine print.
That's standard in a lot of these contracts with these fundraising companies.
unidentified
It makes sense.
tim pool
To be fair, it makes sense.
You can't just have money floating around doing nothing.
You gotta do something with it.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you gotta put it to work.
tim pool
And then you have to tell people you're going to.
hotep jesus
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
But again, you know, where's the money?
This is this has been the problem with the black community.
I'm not going to go ahead and slander Martin Luther King like that on Tim Coole's podcast.
But I mean, we've never... Was that happened back in the day, too?
Yeah, man.
The whole civil rights movement was a was a big publicity stunt.
What?
Yeah.
tim pool
It kind of worked, though, didn't it?
hotep jesus
Yeah, it worked to destroy us.
Really?
tim pool
Why do you think?
hotep jesus
Integration was infiltration.
lydia smith
Interesting.
hotep jesus
Integration was infiltration.
I go to the school at Thaddeus Russell, Renegade University, and he's got all the facts laid out.
We do a Tuesday night class about Africa.
Did you know that W.E.B.
Du Bois never met a black person until he was 20 years old?
tim pool
I didn't know that.
That's crazy.
ian crossland
Who is that?
unidentified
W.E.B.
hotep jesus
Du Bois?
you know one of them old heads from like early late late 1800s early 1900s he lived to a very old age but uh father of socialism um sociology uh black guy half but he's mixed he's mixed um but yeah you know uh the integrationist really what happened was the integrationist Wanted.
Well, let's talk about what the independent people want.
Independent black folks said, hey, look, there's money coming to from the government to white schools.
We want money for our schools and NAACP and all those sellouts came around and said, look, we'll fight for your cause if you agree to integrate.
And they said, no, we don't want to integrate.
We're cool with our schools.
And they're like, no, we're not going to support you unless you integrate.
So, you know, when people talk about, they like to talk about Tulsa and they like to call it a massacre.
It's not a massacre if you fight back, right?
So Tulsa was not a massacre.
It was definitely an attack on black property and black businesses and black life.
But we fought back and Tulsa survived for 40 years after that attack.
tim pool
That was Black Wall Street, right?
hotep jesus
Black Wall Street.
tim pool
That's what they call it.
unidentified
What happened?
hotep jesus
Yeah, you know, some white folks was a little upset, came down and started acting rowdy.
tim pool
I think they were Democrats, weren't they?
hotep jesus
They were Dixiecrats.
tim pool
Dixiecrats.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, you know, white liberals.
Um, so yeah, so they came down and, you know, caused a fuss and they were dropping bombs from airplanes.
Yeah, it was, it got, it got really serious.
Yeah.
But the point is, uh, Black Wall Street doesn't die until integration.
tim pool
During a Black Lives Matter protest, I can't remember which one, I think it was in Ferguson, there was somebody who wrote a letter, it was one of the black activists, saying that they felt desegregation was like a trick.
It was.
That what it did was, you had basically parallel economies that were, you know, the black community was flourishing, and then once they got rid of segregation and integrated, then all of a sudden it pushed all of the black community into and under the white community.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I don't necessarily agree with that whole school of thought, but we can talk about it, so I'd love to hear more about what you think about that.
hotep jesus
That's succinctly put right there.
That's exactly what happened.
We became second in somebody else's stuff instead of first in our stuff.
You know, like, one of the craziest things they'll say is, oh, this person is the first black to go to the moon, or first black to do this, or first... That award should not go to us.
That award should go to white folks.
Congratulations, you accepted somebody other than yourself.
And that's what that's kind of like, you know, a microscopic look at how we're treated in America, how we're looked at by the liberal America.
Oh, look, it's cool to be second place.
Here's your participation trophy.
tim pool
It's kind of interesting, though, because the only time I've ever heard the idea about segregation being like, or I'm sorry, integration being bad in some capacity, is from the left.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
But you consider yourself conservative?
hotep jesus
No, I consider myself ho-tip.
We have conservative values, though.
tim pool
Right on, okay.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I consider myself ho-tip, although we have conservative values.
And I get along with a lot.
Shout out to Sonny Johnson.
Shout out to Uncle Hotep.
Uncle Hotep was the one that taught me about conservatism.
And Sonny Johnson refined that school of thought for me.
And I think she's the best conservative I've seen, period.
Black, white, or whatever.
But yeah, loosely described as conservative.
I know a lot of people like to describe me as that.
I don't mind it sometimes, but Hotep to the core.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it, man.
It's weird how left and right don't really make sense anymore, I guess.
hotep jesus
Nah, that's the great divide, to divide the people.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You know, so we don't unite against the state.
You know, that's the big thing.
And that's why white liberals keep us in the forefront.
You know, the thing about integration was, it was about turning black people white.
They wanted us to be like them.
They wanted us to amalgamate and assimilate into the white culture and become culturally white.
And whoever assimilates best does best.
If we look at people like, you know, Don Lemon, you know, clean cut dude.
He assimilates real well.
Sounds like a white guy, dates a white guy.
He assimilates really well.
Kamala Harris, she assimilates really well.
She dates a white man.
She's married to a white man.
These people assimilate into AOC.
She talks all that stuff about white supremacy, but she sleeps with a white man.
You know, these people assimilate into the culture.
And it seems like if you assimilate, for example, my hair would not be allowed, right?
Unless I was, hey, you know, then it'd be okay.
That's so weird.
tim pool
But these are Democrats.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This is kind of like a heterodox.
I don't know.
It's weird.
It sounds like a lot of what you're saying does fit with a lot of the social justice activists.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
But then you're coming down hard and pointing out it's actually the Democrats that are racist or They have no diversity.
hotep jesus
They scream diversity, but they have none.
unidentified
Yes.
hotep jesus
When you talk about, you know, the problems in America, right?
And you say, oh, you know, unemployment, da-da-da-da.
Well, who owns all the tech companies?
It's the leftists.
So if you guys don't have representation of women, guess who's been making those decisions?
White liberal men.
If you don't have black people on your board or on your team, who made those decisions?
Some white male liberal.
Y'all right in the world!
tim pool
They say that they're doing better now by stopping the white cis heteronormative patriarchy or whatever.
It's these same companies that are now trying to do great.
hotep jesus
Did you hear what you just said?
tim pool
Say it again.
hotep jesus
The cis what?
tim pool
White cis heteronormative patriarchy.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
I try to be as verbose as possible because I'm kind of making fun of them.
hotep jesus
And that's very specific.
tim pool
I know.
That's almost meaningless.
hotep jesus
Right?
Exactly.
It's so specific that it's meaningless.
tim pool
Yep.
hotep jesus
Right?
It's like heteronormative.
So every other white man's exempt from the rule?
tim pool
Right, right, right.
The point of saying it is to like, it highlights the absurdity of this fringe group of people.
Yes.
Cause like a regular person is going to be like, I got no idea what you just said.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
You didn't convey any information to me by saying that weird phrase.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
If you're not on Twitter, you wouldn't know what's going on.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Exactly.
hotep jesus
We got to talk about the main Macklemore's to go on from there.
But yeah, when they say patriarchy, yeah, that's exactly what they want to do.
They want to destroy the patriarchy for you, but not for them.
Just like Gavin Newsom.
It's lockdowns for you, but I'm a kick it with the homies.
tim pool
More than once.
More than once.
He got caught twice.
hotep jesus
Twice?
tim pool
Twice he got caught.
lydia smith
Do you guys know who those people were?
That was the California Medical Advisory Board.
I thought that was the funniest thing I'd heard.
unidentified
Dude.
lydia smith
Like, you gotta be joking.
tim pool
It's kind of so obvious what they do, right?
They tell you to lock down Nancy Pelosi, go get a haircut.
Mayor Lori Lightfoot, go get a haircut.
Gavin Newsom goes out to eat, gets caught.
Goes out to eat again, gets caught, and says it was just a mistake.
No, they don't care about you.
And they're not scared of this.
That's what's weird.
hotep jesus
Yeah, some animals are more equal than others.
tim pool
Animal farm.
hotep jesus
Yeah, if you people haven't read Animal Farm, make sure you go give that a good refreshing read.
It should only take you about an hour or two if you got ADD like me.
You know what I'm saying?
I had the kids read it this summer.
tim pool
So you said Democrats have no diversity?
Is that what you're saying?
hotep jesus
There's no diversity.
tim pool
So what do you mean by that?
hotep jesus
You have to think a certain way.
You have to look a certain way.
You have to behave a certain way.
tim pool
And they use skin color as the shield to pretend they do have diversity.
hotep jesus
Yeah!
I mean, I go on these voice chat apps, and I have discussions with them, and all the black people sound exactly the same.
And then I get in a room, and I speak, and I get ostracized.
Because I'm different.
Because I don't come from your world of pish-posh, polished, white liberalism.
You know, the black boule.
I mean, the people that complain about racism and white supremacy have some of the best jobs!
They work for CNN.
They work for Vogue.
I'm like, you guys have all the jobs I wish I would have had when I was younger.
They were all blue checked up and verified.
Do you know how far being verified goes when you apply for a job?
tim pool
Really?
hotep jesus
Oh yeah!
I know you wouldn't know because you're a smart man.
Well no, just because I've... You've never applied for a job using a blue check.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
I've not applied for a job in like ten years.
hotep jesus
See what I'm saying?
Because you're a smart man.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
But some people out here, you know, they want to apply for a job.
And they might have dreadlocks.
And they might not have that college degree.
And they might not have that verification.
But you know what?
If I had the verification, they might overlook the degree.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
They might overlook the locks.
tim pool
Ooh, you're somebody, right?
hotep jesus
Right?
Yeah, you must be somebody.
tim pool
I dig it, man.
I went to the White House wearing this.
hotep jesus
Did you?
tim pool
Yeah, I didn't wear a suit.
I wore the beanie and the buttoned shirt or whatever.
hotep jesus
It's called branding.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
It is, it is.
But it's also... I think it's... Look, man, this is America.
We're a country founded on a bunch of farmers fighting back against, you know, the empire or whatever.
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
So the way I see it is, in this country, we are all equal.
Okay.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And we are all... I'm brain farting on the line from the Declaration of Independence.
lydia smith
We're all created in God's image.
tim pool
No, we're all created, you know, with the same inalienable rights.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So when someone says, this is the White House, I say, that's great, but this is not a building designed and built for, in my opinion, the wealthy elites.
hotep jesus
Ooh.
tim pool
No, no, no.
We can go back in time and talk about the wealthy landowners and their ideas and what they wanted to do.
But what they put forward in these documents was planting a seed that said, everybody's got a shot.
hotep jesus
Allegedly.
ian crossland
Now you got companies like Vanguard and State Street and that own like most of the tech companies.
So like Vanguard is the biggest investment firm in the world.
It owns, and it's not an American thing.
tim pool
Well, yeah, we got, we have, I think after a certain amount of time we became a plutocracy.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And now it's just all the rich people who just dictate what we do and they pay for the laws.
ian crossland
They're definitely dividing us on purpose as Americans.
I don't know.
Financialists.
tim pool
I don't know, uh, that's what worries me.
I don't know if there's, like, a grand conspiracy among the ultra-rich to be like, here's what we gotta do to the people.
I think it's rich people just acting in their own interests, like, ultra-wealthy elites, and it's a big club and you ain't in it.
But I don't think they have, like, a meeting where they're like, how can we screw over the rebel today?
Or like, how can we control?
No, I think it's basically like a guy saying, I don't want them coming in my building, so I want this law passed in your city.
And they go, you got it, buddy.
And then they build this system around it.
hotep jesus
But there's so many meetings documented.
tim pool
There's meetings, but it's an issue of, I guess it's an issue of intent, right?
Are they having?
hotep jesus
There was a Jekyll Island meeting.
Surely you're familiar with the creature from Jekyll Island.
tim pool
No, what's this?
hotep jesus
I shall say nothing further.
ian crossland
That's where they wrote up the Federal Reserve Act.
tim pool
Oh, really?
The way I look at how this country was founded is that it's really interesting that it had these ideas of liberalism, like classical liberalism.
Freedom, liberty, individualism.
They certainly didn't operate under the purest form of that when this country was founded.
But through that, we've had numerous amendments, Supreme Court rulings that have led to more equality.
hotep jesus
I guess you can call it equality, but I suppose... I feel like the opposite has happened.
tim pool
So explain what you mean.
hotep jesus
The further we've progressed as a country, the less equality we've had.
lydia smith
Really?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Where is the equality?
Where do you see the equality?
tim pool
Well, I can tell you, my grandparents weren't legally allowed to be married because they were different races.
And so they had to actually flee because it was illegal in different states.
hotep jesus
Well, again, that's the problem with the federal government, right?
So the federal government overrides how the states want to operate, right?
I believe that every state has the right to make laws and say, look, we don't want these type of people getting married.
Cool.
I'm a leave and go someplace where we are welcome.
This is the great thing about not having a communist nation, because then you got the federal government opens a window for them to start calling shots and saying, you can do this and you can't do that.
We got to leave that window closed.
You can't tell the states anything they want to do.
Besides, I think the only benefit to having people get married under the state is some sort of tax, right?
Tax benefits.
tim pool
It was different back in the day.
It was different.
hotep jesus
I mean, what's stopping you from getting married under God?
tim pool
I don't know.
hotep jesus
Why do you need the state's approval to get married?
tim pool
Oh, I agree with you on that.
You want to talk about why the government has authority.
There's a big difference between legitimate authority and illegitimate authority.
Too much of government is just arbitrary.
Okay, you're in charge of this for whatever reason.
It doesn't make sense.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you wasn't with me sleeping in the bed.
You know what I mean?
You wasn't hitting that.
I was hitting that.
Where was you at?
You took 30% from me and didn't give me nothing back.
tim pool
You're talking about the government.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you took 30% for Taz and ain't getting nothing back.
You screwed me.
I was screwing her while you were screwing me.
tim pool
My understanding, as I was reading this thing we mentioned a day ago or so, is that the average person gets more value, more dollar per dollar value, from the government than they pay in taxes.
It's the rich people that pay way more taxes, that basically subsidizes.
hotep jesus
I've heard that theory before, but that sounds like what you call over-educated speak.
unidentified
Yeah?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Either you taking 30% from me or not, I don't care what you doing with everybody else, and the super rich, and what they're subsidizing.
Are you taking 30% from me?
Because I need that 30%.
lydia smith
Seriously, yeah.
tim pool
So you like these Trump tax cuts?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Even though it's a deferment, right?
You still gotta pay it later on.
tim pool
Which ones?
hotep jesus
The tax program.
tim pool
Well, the COVID one was a deferment.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
But the actual tax cuts he put in place.
hotep jesus
Oh, a few years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, of course you're going to enjoy that, right?
I operate as a corporation.
tim pool
It's really, you know what the craziest thing to me is?
I don't understand why, when it comes to, when I talk to these leftist activists, these progressives, they're talking about taxing the rich and all that, and I'm like, okay, but do you know how much money that, like, do you know where that money goes when you tax them?
Like, there's a lot of questions you gotta ask when they say, when you say tax the rich.
Okay, what taxes?
Are you talking about capital gains specifically, or are you talking about corporate tax?
And then where does that money go?
What do you do with it?
Because I'll tell you what, like a good chunk of it goes to blowing up kids in foreign countries.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
So is that something you are choosing to pay for?
You want to buy?
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
I personally don't.
hotep jesus
I mean, when you charge, when you tax the rich, all you're basically saying is, become more savvy with how you hide your money.
tim pool
Yep.
Exactly.
hotep jesus
Right?
So then you wonder why you can't get jobs in America.
It's because they're going to offshore them to Russia, India, or some other third world nation.
And that's the result.
They're going to be much savvier.
You know, in order to not pay taxes in America, you need a $500 an hour employee.
I mean accountant.
Somebody who has previously worked for the IRS from those sort of loopholes.
That's how you perform tax avoidance.
It's different from tax evasion.
You've got tax avoidance.
So if you can afford to not pay taxes, you won't pay taxes and you shouldn't.
I do not advocate for the rich to get taxed.
Because advocating for the rich to get taxed means I'm next.
No.
No.
That's not supposed to be like that.
ian crossland
How do you feel about income tax?
hotep jesus
It shouldn't be taxed at all.
The first instance of tax was for what?
To subsidize the wars.
ian crossland
When was that?
hotep jesus
Revolutionary War?
Civil War?
tim pool
That was bonds though, wasn't it?
So in the Revolutionary War, they sold bonds.
And then I think income tax came in the early 1900s.
They were like, we need more money.
ian crossland
It came around when they started the Federal Reserve.
hotep jesus
They had a stamp tax.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Stamp Act.
tim pool
For weed, right?
hotep jesus
The Stamp Act.
lydia smith
That's correct, sir.
unidentified
Was that for weed?
Yeah.
hotep jesus
For imported goods.
It was like a tariff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
hotep jesus
So you might not have had an income tax.
tim pool
Right, right, right, right, right.
hotep jesus
But they were taking it out of your assets.
They was stealing money from people some way, somehow.
Then you had The European powers that were controlling the script, that were controlling the currency, and that's really what everybody was upset about.
That's one thing a lot of people don't talk about.
Because you got to remember, they tried the First National Bank, then the Second National Bank, and then the Second National Bank was like, all right, we paid off all our debts.
And after the Civil War, the North told the South, look, whatever debt you got, we're not taking that.
You better clear your debts before you come back.
And then that's how Russia gave us Alaska and paid off the debt.
You know what I'm saying?
So, we bought that back from Russia for helping the North.
I mean, a lot goes into, you know, the financial background of America, but I mean, there's always been some sort of lean placed against the American people.
tim pool
So, let's go back real quick.
You were mentioning diversity, because I want to ask you, when we're talking about the Democrats, they all think the same, they all act the same, but they just, they say they look different, so that's their diversity.
What do you think about the Republican Party?
hotep jesus
Uh, the Republican Party, uh, they're so boring, there's nothing to say.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
Dude, that's the way I feel.
Like what do they do?
hotep jesus
Like, like the really, um, I don't, I don't, I don't know what the Republican Party does.
I have no idea what's happening in that world.
I could not speak from an educated platform on the Republican Party or the Democrat Party.
All I can tell you is about what I see manifested in my life.
And it seems like the Republicans have a very hands-off attitude.
It seems like they bow to the Democrats.
tim pool
It does, for sure.
hotep jesus
Right?
Yeah.
From where I'm sitting.
And it seems like the Democrats really control the topics of conversation.
They control culture.
The liberals control culture.
Correct, yeah.
like uh... i believe uh... bright board said andrew bright board you know said
uh...
politics downstream from culture correct yeah right yeltsin and and and they knew that
tim pool
you know republicans on of any culture but they don't they don't control any cultural institution
right the republicans are constantly trying to be liked by
democrats yeah i guess that video lindsey graham fist bumping kamala
harris the other day Yeah, I saw that.
Like, he's the dude who's coming out telling Trump to fight tooth and nail, and he's gonna donate money to this, but then secretly he walks up, he's like, fist bump, pat on the back.
Because these, you know what it feels like?
A lot of these Republicans, and there's some good populists, like, you know, regular conservatives, and there's some Democrats, but the Republican Party, it seems like these guys are all just like the nerdy kids in school, begging to be popular.
And they think the Democrats are the cool kids, so they're just like, we'll do whatever, we'll say whatever you want, you know, just tell me what to say and I'll say it.
hotep jesus
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, they're all puppets at the end of the day.
You know, Alex Jones came on your platform.
Actually, nah, my bad.
I'm thinking of Sean Stone.
I interviewed Sean Stone on my platform, and he broke down who was financing the left and who financing the right, and they from the same family.
I'm not naming no names.
I'm not that brave.
tim pool
Does the left have anybody funny?
hotep jesus
Funny?
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Or funding?
tim pool
Funny, funny.
hotep jesus
Funny?
Oh, they got a lot of names.
I don't say names.
That's not what Hotel Jesus do.
We don't say names.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Yeah, because then people drag you.
They're like, you bring them up and then.
hotep jesus
Well, I might need their money one day.
unidentified
Right on.
hotep jesus
Right?
I'm not going to upset.
See, that's the thing, man.
Everybody's like upset at this power structure, right?
I'm not upset at it.
I'm upset at the people for feeding into it.
We don't gotta feed into this system.
We could go do our own thing and make this system obsolete.
And these people will be wondering, like you asked me, like Shorty asked me on the way here, you know, do I vote?
I was like, nah, I don't vote.
If I vote, I validate the existence of the state.
I'm not validating the existence of the state, so I don't vote.
So every time y'all go vote, y'all basically telling the government, oh, y'all believe in this, what we doing?
Okay, good.
Come on down here, place this vote.
No doubt.
I got you.
And you're validating BS.
tim pool
Proving you have confidence in the system to some degree.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
So like, how many times do you have to get shafted before you realize it's not working for you?
And the problem is, and that's why I'm writing my upcoming book, you know, it's like, they don't have any sense of history.
People talk about the Founding Fathers, like I always say, the Founding Fathers didn't care about you at all.
They were not thinking about you when they wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
They were thinking about themselves, right?
tim pool
I don't know if I agree, but let's talk about it.
What do you mean?
hotep jesus
Okay.
In order to vote, you had to own land back then.
tim pool
But do you know why that was?
hotep jesus
Why is that?
tim pool
There was no IDs.
So somebody walks into a meeting and he says, I'm going to vote.
And they're like, who are you?
I own this piece of land here, right here.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
So it was your way of saying, I live in this community.
I'm a member of this community.
hotep jesus
You know, in order to have power, you always need good excuses.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And that sounds like a real good excuse.
We didn't have ID.
You know what everybody has for ID?
tim pool
What's that?
hotep jesus
It's called a thumbprint.
tim pool
But back then, I don't think they knew that.
unidentified
What?
hotep jesus
Come on, Tim, don't do that.
tim pool
Fingerprints back in the day in the 1700s.
hotep jesus
Fingerprints are ancient.
Fingerprints are ancient, bro.
They used to take candle wax and then certify a document with candle wax.
This is ancient technology.
Everybody's got an ID, it's right here.
tim pool
It's not just about IDing somebody.
It was about, we don't want someone to vote in our meetings who doesn't have a stake in what happens here.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's what they say.
But that's not what the documents say.
The documents are supposed to be for all people, not just landowners.
You can't just say, oh, you have to have a stake in this.
tim pool
That's a good point, too, because there are a lot of people who lived in these areas that didn't own land, you know, and they weren't voting.
hotep jesus
You also got people who were drafted into wars while the rich were able to pay their way out.
tim pool
And you know the 17th Amendment, that we do a Senate by popular vote?
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
Before the 17th, The founding fathers thought you've got the house that represents the will of the people, but the senators are the upper chamber of better men.
Literally, that's what they would say, better men.
And so that all changed in the early 1900s.
And I think it was probably Michael Malice who told me this.
Maybe it wasn't.
No, I think it was Seamus, actually.
There were senators who, when they passed the 17th, resigned saying, I do not want to be beholden to the rabble.
So, originally, yeah, we did have elitism.
We had a lot more of it.
It's crazy to me.
You know the UK still has a House of Lords?
hotep jesus
They sell the House of Lords?
tim pool
Oh yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, and then the other side is the Parliament.
House of Commons, okay.
The upper chamber is just like religious, you know, ranking people and like landowners
from like of historic merit of some sort.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
And then the other side is the parliament.
tim pool
And then I think, no, the House of Commons.
hotep jesus
House of Commons.
tim pool
Yeah.
So they're all in parliament.
The House of Commons is just like the regular people.
OK.
The founding fathers were like, we want better men to be appointed by, you know, the state.
And then the house was the regular people who would come and, you know, talk about the will of the people.
I think it's clever because we're not a democracy and you don't just want, you know, Yeah, I mean, it's true.
Some people are better than others.
That makes you a conservative, yeah.
Makes sense.
But definitely, this idea was some people are better than others.
And that wasn't power evenly distributed like a democracy.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I mean it's true.
Some people are better than others.
tim pool
That's the right, that means you're right wing.
lydia smith
That makes you a conservative, yeah.
tim pool
Not a conservative, right.
lydia smith
That makes you right wing, yeah.
tim pool
So, you know Michael Malice.
Yeah.
So he asked me, he's like, the new right, how do you define what left and right is?
And he asked, do you think some people are better than others?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was like, yes.
And he goes, okay.
ian crossland
I think some people are doing better than other people, but I don't think that they're just better.
Like if someone was born into my situation, they'd be literate.
tim pool
You're way overthinking it.
So he said the left gives you a speech.
The right would say yes.
ian crossland
I'm obviously on the left.
tim pool
But I said, but the saying yes is the correct answer.
Some people are really tall and they can play basketball really well.
And so what we mean by better doesn't, if we're just speaking in general terms, oh yeah, there's a chess grandmaster and there's a guy who can't win at all.
So clearly these things exist.
Some people are better than others.
Even if it's just one or two people who are better at playing chess than most other people, then some people are.
hotep jesus
But yeah, that's how Michael defines separating the, you know, Yeah, I'm a C-level chess player, and there's definitely better people.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
unidentified
That's crazy.
hotep jesus
So that makes you right-wing.
That's interesting.
tim pool
But what's interesting, too, is I think there's a lot of people that are better than me at, like, basically everything.
hotep jesus
So it's basically idealism versus realism.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, maybe that's it.
hotep jesus
That's basically what the conversation comes down to.
And that's the problem.
There's no balance available.
tim pool
Well, do you think that there should be an element of government that is better men?
And I use men figuratively.
I mean, people.
hotep jesus
The best type of government is no government.
unidentified
Yeah, I should have figured you'd say something like that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, no government.
unidentified
What about fire departments and police departments?
hotep jesus
I like thinking about when the Irish created the first fire departments in Boston and Philadelphia.
And originally they created fire departments because they were actually creating fires.
lydia smith
That sounds like us.
hotep jesus
And they were fighting for so-called equality.
So a lot of those things popped up independently and were funded independently.
I think those are great community things that can happen that don't need government intervention.
I think that there are people in this world who know their destiny, know their value, and will do a lot of things for free.
There are some people who would die to be a nurse and never take a scent and feel some type of way.
They just enjoy doing that.
People are just built like that.
So I think things like, you know, fire departments are easy to come by.
tim pool
Isn't that idealistic, though?
hotep jesus
No, that's realistic.
tim pool
You know the shopping cart problem?
You ever hear this one?
hotep jesus
What's that?
tim pool
So, they say the shopping cart corral is the perfect test for whether or not humans can self-govern.
You go to the supermarket, you get a shopping cart, you go to your car, you got the shopping cart next to your car.
It takes almost no time to put the shopping cart in the corral, but you don't get anything for it.
You know it's the right thing to do, But still people will just leave their shopping cart right there in the middle of the lot, just get in their car and leave.
And so the idea is you could do the right thing for no reward.
That doesn't really affect you at all.
10, 5, 10 seconds, but people still choose not to do it.
hotep jesus
People in America choose to do it.
tim pool
Choose, you mean choose not to do it?
hotep jesus
Choose not to do it, right?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus
You could pull another culture out and you'd see something completely different.
Oh yeah, for sure.
It's something to say about the level of human consciousness in America and the Western world.
The graduation of the ego, right?
It's at a very low state at this point.
So you have people who exist in this system.
You know, time is of the essence in America, right?
And a lot of that has to do with that 30% that gets taken out of your check.
ian crossland
Regarding the fire department, I feel like it's kind of a specialized job.
You got to train and learn how to do it and carry the weight and all that, you know, you know, the whatever, what it takes to go into a building, fight the fire.
And it takes time, a lot of time.
So if they weren't getting paid, they might not be able to support their lives.
Um, if it was a private company, you'd look at like the Roman fire departments, Pompey's fire department.
He had the first fire department that we know of.
And he would go, if the building was on fire, go outside with his fire department and say, pay me.
And he'd extort the people and the people would be like, I know I'm not going to pay you.
And then he just let their building burn down.
tim pool
Yeah, the original fire departments, I think, used to buy an emblem, and you'd put the emblem on your house.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
And then when the fire call was called in, they'd come and they'd see the emblem and say, okay, you're a subscriber.
hotep jesus
Again, you're talking about a level of low conscious human beings, right?
You wouldn't have that in some ancient societies, you wouldn't have that problem.
You just have a fire department, those people will be taken care of.
tim pool
You know, you know, it's interesting.
hotep jesus
I was reading they might get paid, you know, have we have we tried private fire departments in a local town and what that looks like and is it possible if we didn't have to pay 30% that we'd pay maybe 10% to go to some of those services and those would go directly to those services and those and those people might actually get paid more.
More than what the government is giving them?
tim pool
You've turned Ian into an anarchist.
ian crossland
I think we should build an app where you get to pick where your taxes go on a sliding bar.
And if you wanted to slide like 17% to the fire department, I want to slide 13% to the police department.
And you might have minimums, like you have to put at least 2% into each of these.
Then you get to pick, and you'll see like the voluntarism kick in.
tim pool
But why not, how about then I add, I want the taxes to go to my skate park.
ian crossland
So when you would put your skate park, it'd be like Tinder.
You'd be like, hey, I'm Tim Pool.
I want to build a skate park.
People would be like, oh, I like that.
I'm going to swipe right and add that to my list of things that I can fund.
But then when you go in, I'll be like, I'm going to give 2% of my taxes to Tim's skate park.
tim pool
But then how about we just take, you know, Hotep's path and say, you can't get any of my 30% at all and just keep it all, right?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So you should have that option too.
tim pool
Just put it in your pocket.
And if I want money to go to a skate park, I'll show up at your skate park and give you money.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
I think, you know, man, I'm not a big fan of government authority.
I think a lot of it's arbitrary.
I've seen a lot of the arbitrary authority put in action, and a lot of people, they play a popularity contest to get the keys to the castle to have that authority.
But I still think, you know, I'm not an anarchist, I probably would be Uh, idealistically, I'm like left libertarian.
And then realistically, I'm like, probably just a liberal, probably just like, I think we need, I think we need some kind of, uh, mixed economy, some kind of mixed system.
hotep jesus
I think we should take all them terms and throw them in the trash.
tim pool
Why is that?
hotep jesus
Because of listening to what you just said.
You said, when it comes to this, I'm this.
When it comes to that, I'm that.
tim pool
But I can explain it.
hotep jesus
Right.
But let's just talk about each issue and say what our views are and not label it.
tim pool
All right.
hotep jesus
Right.
Because then with those labels come preconceived notions.
tim pool
I think one of the challenges is that you look at the Brooklyn Bridge.
So I'm not a historian on the Brooklyn Bridge, but my understanding is that it was put together by a corporation to build this bridge.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Then you're trying to figure out how to compensate everybody.
And so you have this, you know, this corporation originally, my understanding, was supposed to dissolve after it was done.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Like toll roads, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it exists.
But then the bridge comes to exist forever.
So what do we do?
Do we put up a toll for the bridge forever?
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I'm asking a serious question.
hotep jesus
Well, allegedly, the fee that we paid through tolls was supposed to be used to build the bridge, and I believe there was a budget set aside to maintain the bridge afterwards, right?
tim pool
Well, for sure.
hotep jesus
And then they saw how much revenue was coming in, and they said, why would we stop this money coming in?
Look at this.
tim pool
But so ignoring the fact, well, there you go.
That's the, that's the first problem with government corruption.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
So why, why, why, why kill the golden goose?
We're going to keep the money.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So what's the next part to it?
tim pool
So, uh, well, I guess is, is the solution then we keep the, the bridge under a private corporation and then just have them run it with their, their interest only in that, you know, bridge or whatever.
hotep jesus
Who built the bridge?
tim pool
I think, I think the Brooklyn Bridge was built by like the Brooklyn Bridge Corporation or something like that.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
It's like, I was reading a plaque outside of the Brooklyn Bridge or something.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So, um, I don't know.
It's a really tough question, right?
The capitalist in me says the corporation should own it and they should be able to dictate who can cross it and who can't.
And if you don't like their rules, don't go to Brooklyn.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's what Vanderbilt did with his railroads.
But then when he wanted to stop shipping food into New York, he cut them off and starved a bunch of people.
hotep jesus
Oh, they also did that with coal and everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, and then what happens is they nationalize it.
That sounds like exactly what happens, you know?
hotep jesus
But then they also do things like make growing hemp illegal.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
They make things like collecting rainwater is illegal.
I wouldn't need your shipment of food if you let me grow my own.
tim pool
Well, the rain, the rainwater thing in some contexts makes sense.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Cause like if, if, uh, in certain areas, like in suburban neighborhoods, there's rules about not collecting rainwater, having a runoff.
Otherwise you need a, you need like a certain amount of, it's just like about maintaining the, the, the environment for everybody that are living really close together.
But, uh, in a lot of places it makes literally no sense.
So the bigger issue I think is.
Rules that are made for cities that affect people who don't live anywhere near them.
hotep jesus
Well, well, let me ask you this.
Let's go back to the railroad, right?
Who's gonna protect the railroad?
ian crossland
Um, in general?
The police, I think?
hotep jesus
Okay, police work for who?
ian crossland
Federal.
Whoever local or federal.
hotep jesus
All right, so if we remove them, who's going to protect Vanderbilt from the people after you starve them?
You'd have to hire... You see what I'm saying?
That's why government shouldn't be there, because what they do is these corporations set up, and then they pay the government to protect them.
And then they have the most elite security force on the planet.
That's why you get rid of government.
unidentified
You know what Walmart does, right?
tim pool
Walmart tells their employees... I don't know if this was a widespread thing, but I remember reading about how Walmart told their employees, if you can't afford to work here, go on food stamps.
It's like you hired people, and you're telling them to get government benefits to subsidize their lives.
That doesn't make sense.
hotep jesus
And then when you apply, they tell you, you make too much.
tim pool
One more time?
hotep jesus
When you apply for some of these government assistance, they tell you you make too much.
tim pool
But it's kind of crazy to me that you have these big corporations where they're like, we're gonna hire you, we pay this much, and if you can't afford it, too bad, go ask the government for a subsidy.
If the government didn't provide that, they'd say, it doesn't exist.
You have to pay more money.
So the fact that the government offers it up actually allows these big, massive corporations to undercut the lower class, the working class.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
You want to know something crazy?
There's progressives that say they want a lot of things.
They want four-day work week, right?
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
They want shorter days.
They want paid vacation.
And they want it implemented through policy.
And you know how some of these things started getting implemented?
hotep jesus
How?
tim pool
It wasn't policy.
It was Donald Trump.
The economy was booming and then all of a sudden we started seeing a bunch of companies say, we're going to reduce, you know, hours, you know, same salary, but now you only work 32.
We're going to give you paid vacation because the economy was doing so well.
So the fact that there was just a good economy resulted in a lot of these things that improved people's living.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I just feel like you just let companies compete for employees.
And, you know, if this company is treating their employees better than they compete like that and say, hey, look, you know, I heard that I heard they're giving four days over here.
I want to apply for a job there.
Right.
And then it changes the culture.
tim pool
You know what the problem is?
hotep jesus
That's what I'm interested in.
tim pool
I think the problem is schools.
Oh, yeah.
More government, I guess, is the problem, I suppose.
unidentified
For sure, yeah.
hotep jesus
School is definitely maybe the number one problem, along with... I mean, school and media are kind of like one, because that's the brainwashing, the indoctrination unit.
tim pool
So you mentioned make the businesses compete for employees, right?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
But what happens when the people don't understand any of these concepts and just sit there saying, why am I broke and don't do anything about it?
So I know a bunch of people that go to school and they think the only way to survive is to get a job.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
As if the employer is the supplier of money.
As if the employer like makes money appear out of thin air to give to you.
You can make money too, same as them.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's just one of those things where you do as I say.
I mean, watch.
How do you say it?
Do as I do, not as I say.
tim pool
Do as I say, not as I do.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
No, no, no.
Actually, that's not what I'm pointing out.
tim pool
Rules for thee, but not for me.
hotep jesus
No.
unidentified
Watch.
hotep jesus
Just watch me do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Do you know what I mean?
Watch me do it, and then people will emulate, right?
Because you can talk to somebody and say, hey, you should be an entrepreneur all day.
That don't mean they're going to be an entrepreneur, but when they see you do it, they go, Oh wait, I think I can do that.
lydia smith
Lead by example.
hotep jesus
Thank you.
Lead by example.
That's, that's what I say.
I don't try to convince people when I'm being an entrepreneur, they just see how I'm living and they're like, yo, how do you do that?
And I tell them and I say, join my Saturday course and my Saturday class, or, you know, I'll mentor you during the week, but you just got to be that example.
That's the problem out here.
We're doing too much talking.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Not enough doing.
hotep jesus
Yeah, not enough doing.
Hotep and Bill.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm pretty concerned with private military.
Yeah, I've talked about state and the value of the state.
tim pool
Yeah, because of what taxes and where they go.
ian crossland
Well, that definitely that's crazy that you don't know where your taxes are going.
But up until like the 1400s, there was all mercenary warfare, pretty much.
hotep jesus
Okay.
ian crossland
And it was one mercenary company would go burn down a village and then they'd get hired by the people to go defend the village that they, you know, burn down.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
ian crossland
So it's just a constant chaos.
And then they they developed standing armies to prevent mercenary overtake.
So we're basically in a world of standing armies now that are funded by taxpayers.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
ian crossland
And I'm afraid that if we go back to mercenaries, it would be corporate chaos.
hotep jesus
No, we'd just get the same thing we have now, except you and I would be able to form a militia or become mercenaries.
ian crossland
But I don't want to be in a militia right now.
hotep jesus
Well, that's you.
tim pool
Just right now, though.
hotep jesus
That's you.
There's people in Arizona training right now.
ian crossland
I want people to protect me.
That's their specialized job.
hotep jesus
That's who you want protecting you.
ian crossland
I like specialization, and I want to focus my energy into creating content, you know, thought stuff, and then have someone else carry the guns, have someone else grow in the crops.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
You ever heard the statement about I'd rather be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in the war?
Yeah.
Okay, so I mean, my point is, do you want the government to have a monopoly on violence or not?
Because as it is, the only people that's allowed to do this stuff are governments.
ian crossland
Or rich people.
tim pool
Rich people.
ian crossland
Because we're allowed to form standing militias as part of our own government.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
You know that private security, they'll shove a cop for you if you pay the right price.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
We've talked about this quite a bit.
You can watch videos where there's, like, some dude is, like, doing something, the cops walk up to him, start yelling, and then two bodyguards shove the cops down.
Because those bodyguards are like, these guys have so much money, they will buy that police department out.
You will not arrest me.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
Yeah.
tim pool
These cops who get paid 30, 40k, coming up and messing with a guy who's worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, and his private security gets, they get paid, you know, high six figures, they're gonna be like, I don't care.
hotep jesus
That's the life.
tim pool
They're gonna take care of my family if I go to jail.
Knock the cop down.
hotep jesus
That's the life. That's how you gotta live out here.
You know, but I think there's a lot of people who could be trained to be armed security for the people.
You know, lady, talk about like police. You got a kid in high school who was a bully.
Well, guess what? He's probably a natural guardian.
He's probably a natural soldier.
So let's put him in training and let's make him guardian in the community.
tim pool
A bully though?
hotep jesus
A bully.
You gotta understand a bully has sometimes some psychological issues that maybe started as a youth.
All he needs is a little bit of therapy and channel that energy into something good.
A lot of times you have with disruptive kids is they're just not getting attention, right?
And then, for example, there was this kid who was bad in school.
And what the teacher used to do was, she used to make him the volunteer.
And all of a sudden, the bad behavior disappeared.
But it's because all the other teachers would ignore him, wouldn't let him volunteer, wouldn't let him be the one to sharpen the pencils or pass out the papers.
But she made him a little helper, and now he's an A student.
It's about understanding human psychology, and people don't want to tackle that.
tim pool
You know what I think in response to what you're saying, Ian?
I think you underestimate your ability.
You should be responsible for... You should be a well-rounded person in every capacity.
You should be able to defend yourself, protect yourself.
You should be able to be the one who carries the gun.
And you can focus on the things you're more passionate about, but I think, you know, you wake up, you read, you exercise, you make sure you're well-rounded with your specialties.
You can be a specialist in content creation.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to, you know, carry heavy things.
ian crossland
But you don't farm.
tim pool
No, I don't.
ian crossland
No, of course not.
You're specialized.
tim pool
Sort of, but I could farm.
ian crossland
I could farm too, but you don't.
And I don't because we're specialized.
And that's because this sociological construct of the government allows us to be specialized.
tim pool
But I actually like farming.
unidentified
Well, I like doing a lot of stuff I don't do, but you should do hydroponics.
tim pool
We had a garden at the last house.
hotep jesus
You should just set up like... Well, that was mostly... You got the skate park popping up, right?
tim pool
Oh yeah, Skatepark.
hotep jesus
Yeah, so you need another building with just the hydroponics, man.
tim pool
That'd be sweet.
We were thinking about doing that with the detached building we have, but there's no light, so we'd have to figure out a way to do something with a greenhouse, I guess.
hotep jesus
Yeah, greenhouse that bad boy.
tim pool
But dude, first of all, I am all about self-sufficiency.
You know what I mean?
Like, we're almost off the grid in this place.
ian crossland
If you try and do everything, you'll end up coming up short.
I disagree.
tim pool
There's two sayings.
As an ancient Japanese saying, a person who tries to catch two rabbits will catch neither.
And then there's another saying that you may have heard, jack of all trades, master of none.
Right?
You've heard that?
You want to know what the real saying is?
Jack of all trades, master of none, but every so often better than a master of one.
That's the full thing.
So it's, it's, you know, it depends, you know, in a, in a, in a culture of all specialists.
Yeah.
You know, that's what we've become.
And we're hyper specialized now.
It's like, when it comes to building a computer, you've got like actually components and parts.
You've got some people who specialize in one tiny aspect of like building the computer.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
Someone focuses on, like, developing the plastics for the casings or whatever.
It used to be, like, way back in the day, the blacksmith was the guy who would, like, make the thing.
Now you've got added, you know, a thousand different specialties to get that job done.
That's actually allowed us to make crazy new technology and improve things.
But I think there's still fundamentals that everybody should probably work on.
Being fit, for instance.
Knowing how to use a gun, probably.
I think these are important things.
It's like basic necessities for life.
hotep jesus
It's basic necessities for a man.
It's like knowing how to change a tire.
tim pool
Yeah, yep.
Just like simple things.
Simple.
And depending on how good you want to be at them, you know?
But I think, you know what I tell people?
I tell people the one thing you can do right now is download a survival guide onto your phone.
You might not never need to use it.
Yeah, I did that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, absolutely.
That's a good idea.
tim pool
How many, how many, how many stories we heard about someone went for a walk and then they got lost in the woods?
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
So you look, pull up your phone and it'll say, oh, here's what I do.
Okay, cool.
hotep jesus
I got a Wilderness Survival Merit Badge from Boy Scouts.
I'm good out here.
tim pool
There you go, man.
ian crossland
I'm not like a sycophant for the government, for government daddy to take care of us, but I value some of the, the safety that it provides, I guess, or the freedom.
hotep jesus
You think it provides safety?
ian crossland
Yeah, the freedom.
hotep jesus
Like what?
ian crossland
Like, um, if I go outside and someone wants to mug me, they'll do that.
Well, not if there's a police officer standing by.
tim pool
That's, I don't know.
hotep jesus
What are the odds of that?
And people get there, right?
People get there.
ian crossland
Times Square, for instance.
hotep jesus
You ever seen Andy Ngo get beat up in front of police?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Oh, no, not in front of police.
I didn't see that.
tim pool
Dude, dude, dude.
You see the video of the Trump supporters, the MAGA family?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
They're trying to leave and the cops stopped them and made them go into Antifa.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
So look, Like I said, I think we need police.
I think police serve a function.
I'm not an anarchist or anything like that, but I absolutely have no problem criticizing the cops.
We've had way too much this year of cops just enforcing these unconstitutional edicts from governors instead of actually being there to help the people and protect them.
We had these gym owners by the old house in Jersey where they got arrested for just working out in a building.
These cops didn't care.
ian crossland
I'm free to drive on the freeway without getting hit by speeding cars.
hotep jesus
You want the car speeding.
unidentified
No.
hotep jesus
They say that people tend to concentrate more when they speed.
lydia smith
Oh, they sure do.
ian crossland
But if people are going different speeds, that would be very dangerous.
hotep jesus
Did you realize that most accidents are happening, like, within five minutes of your house?
ian crossland
I've heard that, yeah.
hotep jesus
And like, usually, like, not speeding?
ian crossland
Yeah, but that's because people aren't going 30 miles an hour differentials on the freeway because we have speed limits.
hotep jesus
Usually people don't crash because people are speeding.
tim pool
So people don't drive the speed limit.
hotep jesus
That's a very rare thing.
tim pool
People don't drive the speed limit.
lydia smith
In the most part they do.
ian crossland
Under penalty of law.
tim pool
No, I mean that people always speed.
They always speed.
And then everybody speeds.
ian crossland
It's dangerous, dude.
tim pool
Everybody goes 5-10 miles an hour.
ian crossland
7 miles an hour over maybe.
I think that's my personal number.
hotep jesus
And then what happens is... I've done 130 before.
ian crossland
It's so dangerous.
hotep jesus
I've done 130 in a Honda Accord 90.1.
Holy cow!
It's not a piece of metal, though.
The car isn't even metal.
Them things is made out of plastic now.
If you had a Lincoln Tau car from the 80s, then yeah, right?
But, you know, my father was military.
He taught me how to drive.
But, you know, I took that bad boy down 280 doing 130 when I was like 18 years old.
But your concentration, your focus is spiked.
Now, I don't suggest doing that.
Keep in mind.
But I know how to drive really well.
When you need a driver, you holler at me.
I'm real good at driving.
My brother's actually a race car driver.
tim pool
This is just, like, there's different degrees of... I don't know what the term would be, but...
You've got people right now who are saying, no one should be allowed to go outside because I'm scared of COVID.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Then you got other people saying, if you're scared, you stay home.
I'm going to do my thing.
So there's varying degrees of like how much freedom we should have versus how much security.
And I think the difference is you're all about total freedom.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Even if it means you're not going to be, you're going to have people zooming patch on the highway.
You're like, well, you know, I'm free.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I'm free.
ian crossland
Freedom has a strange definition, like total freedom means that you're out in the middle of... We've created freedom in the United States by a military force.
So we're giving ourselves freedom.
Like you can walk around outside without getting jumped and punched in the middle of the day.
tim pool
No, that's a cultural thing, dude.
ian crossland
It's because we have police protecting us.
No, it's not.
It is.
If it was total law lawlessness, you could also call that freedom.
I go out there and urinate on your face and kick you in the teeth and take your money and no one's going to stop me.
I'm free.
hotep jesus
How do you do that?
How do you do that with the AK strapped to my back?
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
What if I get the jump on you?
I mean, if you want to fight for a living, you're going to end up getting beat down.
That's just the problem.
hotep jesus
I don't think so.
So I know the problem with you.
Oh, I know the problem with you.
You have no faith in people.
ian crossland
I wouldn't say that.
hotep jesus
That's everything you said today.
You don't have faith in people that can drive fast.
You think that if the government wasn't there, somebody come pee on your face.
ian crossland
People would be hacking your bank account.
You would have no recourse.
tim pool
Listen, when we're talking about being safe in public, that's not police.
ian crossland
The police- The reason most people aren't crazy outside is because of penalties.
hotep jesus
You know who hacks your bank account?
The IRS.
lydia smith
The government?
Yeah, seriously.
tim pool
So, look, I think- I don't expect, if I'm gonna be walking down the street, the reason someone's not gonna mug me is because cops exist.
That's not true.
We have the death penalty, people still commit these crimes.
ian crossland
We know for a fact- We'd have a lot more crime if we didn't have a law.
hotep jesus
I can take you down a block right now, you won't walk back from.
lydia smith
Yeah.
hotep jesus
The cops, the cops don't give a damn.
ian crossland
What if the whole world was like that?
tim pool
That'd be crazy.
ian crossland
No, that'd be... No, it's not.
We have order.
I mean, if you're saying pure chaos, it would be a lot of death.
hotep jesus
Are you familiar with the Wild Wild West?
ian crossland
I mean, I know of it.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Was it wild or was it peaceful?
ian crossland
I think it was wild.
People get scalped and murdered and shot.
hotep jesus
It was... Okay, so everything you just said is ahistorical.
ian crossland
What do you mean?
hotep jesus
The Wild Wild West was actually really peaceful.
For who?
For everybody.
You'd walk into a town and everybody was strapped up.
lydia smith
That's right, they were a polite society.
ian crossland
They were a very polite society.
tim pool
But hold on, they had duels.
hotep jesus
Genociding the natives?
No, that's the government.
The government sanctioned that.
ian crossland
The natives would come, scalp people, the people would kill, and it was government sanctioned.
hotep jesus
The natives were scalping people?
Where'd you get your history from, TV?
tim pool
What do you think would happen if you went to North Africa and the Middle East?
If you went to Libya right now?
hotep jesus
They'd scalp you.
ian crossland
I walked in, walked in.
You're talking about going into like, I'm here.
tim pool
You're going into like, uh, pure chaos.
Not pure chaos, but when you're talking about police right now in a heavily developed and
peaceful nation, for the most part, crime has been on the decline for several decades.
The reason why you're not getting mugged all the time is not because cops exist.
However, I do think cops serve a purpose in that they do and can stop violent criminals.
ian crossland
And they deter it as well.
tim pool
But for the most part, the reason why you're not getting mugged is because people aren't
ian crossland
Well, people are animals.
And when they get hungry, they go crazy.
So you gotta keep that in mind.
tim pool
When people are desperate, poverty breeds crime.
And so, you know, we can figure out ways to solve cultural issues, but for the most part, violent crime's been going down.
The existence of police, I don't think, is stopping you from getting mugged.
Because people mug even though there is a penalty, even though there are cops that can be called.
It's just that, you know, we we are learning to live.
hotep jesus
I got a challenge for you.
If we removed government, what good would happen?
unidentified
That's a good question.
ian crossland
If it was just like no government at all.
hotep jesus
Yeah, what good could come from it?
You see, when you talk about removing the state, everybody runs to the extremes and the bad thing that can happen.
And the thing is, the way the human consciousness is rigged today, it's rigged to automatically go to doubt and fear.
This is old Napoleon Hill.
tim pool
I got one for you.
hotep jesus
What's that?
tim pool
If we got rid of the state right now, nonviolent drug offenders could go home to their families.
hotep jesus
Boom!
See that?
tim pool
And I think that should happen.
And people are calling on Trump to do it, but he didn't do it.
ian crossland
All criminals would go home.
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
But the point he was making was, name a good thing.
hotep jesus
Did you hear what he just did, though?
tim pool
He turned it into a bad thing.
He did it again!
ian crossland
Well, if you want to remove prisons from the equation completely, open up all jails, all prisons.
hotep jesus
But that wasn't the challenge!
ian crossland
The challenge was, if you give me a box of nine venomous snakes and a chipmunk and you're like, look how good the chipmunk is.
Isn't this box great?
tim pool
I'll tell you the point I'm trying to make.
I think there are way too many non-violent drug offenders who should be home with their families.
And we want to keep the violent, psychopathic rapists and murderers in prison.
ian crossland
Because I'm not an anarchist.
I would even challenge that, man.
Because I think, I agree we should leave the nonviolent.
And I think the people in prison should have better, I think they should have access to video cameras.
hotep jesus
I don't believe, I messed your head up.
I don't believe in the prisons.
So what do you do when someone, like a serial killer, First of all, if you have somebody who's a known proven serial killer, what we do is we admit them to a psychotherapy facility.
And this is where college kids get to train.
You get to train on these so-called inmates.
But they become case studies so we can learn the brain and learn behavior more.
And we introduce these people to more nutritious environments.
Right?
And when I say nutritious, it doesn't mean, you know, these four walls that are super cold and, you know, you're locked down for 20.
Like, what does that actually do for the human mind?
Now, are we going to set this person free?
Probably not.
They're probably going to be imprisoned.
Imprisoned.
I would remove the word imprisoned.
I don't know what that word is.
tim pool
I'd have to take some time.
ian crossland
Incarcerated?
hotep jesus
Institutionalized?
I would move that down.
Dogma comes with that stuff.
We'd have to think of it.
ian crossland
Who would be imprisoning them though?
hotep jesus
Let's just... I mean, these are all great questions, right?
But what I'm saying is the institution of prison needs to be revamped.
tim pool
I totally agree.
hotep jesus
It needs to be more about rehabilitation and not imprisonment because the majority of the people there aren't there voluntarily.
They're there because of circumstance.
The environment they were brought up in That's pretty much the only place they could end up is in prison.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
If there was no state, we'd have a lot less serial killers because everybody would be strapped.
unidentified
Yep.
hotep jesus
The way you put it.
Yeah.
tim pool
I think most conservatives would probably agree with that.
hotep jesus
Everybody needs to be strapped up.
When you're born, a gun should come with your diaper.
ian crossland
We don't have a lot of documentation of the past, but I think There were a lot of serial killers in the past, and it was just normal.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
Yeah, probably.
ian crossland
People just walked around and killed.
lydia smith
Violence is the norm.
ian crossland
No one was there to stop them.
For humans.
tim pool
Yeah, we live in a very... I was reading... I told this story before.
I was at Glenn Beck's studio, and he's got these old newspapers just mounted on the walls.
And I was reading one of them, and it was about some guy walked out of a bar, and then some other guy walked out of the bar and took a pistol.
It was like mid-1800s, and just put it to his chest and pulled the trigger.
No reason.
Just did it.
But I'm like...
That stuff happens in Chicago all the time, man.
I grew up around there.
ian crossland
Not all the time.
hotep jesus
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
ian crossland
That's a hyperbole for sure.
tim pool
No, it's all the time.
Yeah, it's all the time.
ian crossland
All the time would mean non-stop, every second.
tim pool
Every day.
ian crossland
Every day.
Okay, every day is different than all the time.
tim pool
So when I say all the time, you are in a state where at any point throughout the day, it's gonna happen, and it happens almost every single day.
So yeah, I think it's fair to say all the time.
ian crossland
It's just an extreme statement.
It's not accurate.
tim pool
No, you're just trying to argue.
hotep jesus
So what's your name one more time?
I'm terrible at games.
Ian, if I had you on my team, you'd be quality assurance.
We wouldn't bring you anything until like me and Tim sat down and I'd be like, okay, tear this apart.
Tell me everything wrong with it.
unidentified
Right?
hotep jesus
And I think there's a lot of people that have these strengths.
Some people are optimists.
Some people are pessimists.
I would put you in a pessimist category.
And I would say, Tim, us optimists, let's get together.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
To be fair, Ian's usually the optimist.
I'm usually the pessimist.
hotep jesus
Well, I'm saying in the context of this is the first time I'm meeting him, and every time, like I said, say something positive, and he was like, we're gonna die and get pissed on, right?
So in the context of this conversation, this is how I'm viewing Ian, right?
So I'm like, I would take all the optimists and say, If we didn't have government, what good could happen?
And we'd paint our flowers over here.
Then I'd bring it in and say, hey, here's what we got.
Tear it apart.
Then you write down everything that's wrong with this.
And I'd go back to my optimism.
How do we fix these problems?
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And that's how we use each other.
But the thing I believe is you have to escape that thinking momentarily and say, I'm not going to think about the bad that can come because that's too easy.
What's hard is to think about what good can come.
That's hard.
And the system has conditioned us to think only about fear and to think about only the bad.
lydia smith
I don't think it is a system.
I think it's human evolution.
Because in order to survive, you have to think about what's bad.
You can't really spend a lot of time thinking about how nice that flower smelled when there's a saber-toothed tiger behind you.
You know what I'm saying?
hotep jesus
So it's not even necessarily cultural unless we're talking about like the evolution of- There's a point to be made there, but when we're dealing with a media who exasperates fear- Yeah, well they know.
Right?
Like they take something that's carnal and then they just set fire to it and just, you know, pour gasoline on it.
They gaslight us.
tim pool
You know what the problem is?
The problem is the media is giving us fake hardship.
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
Real hardship's a good thing.
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
Like, when you get kids who grow up with snowplow parents who are pushing all the obstacles out of their way, they grow up, they can't survive properly.
lydia smith
Antifa.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Then you get these people and the media screams in their faces non-stop, the orange man is bad.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then their whole identity becomes the world is ending, the sky is falling.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Because they didn't go, look, you know why I don't, when Trump got elected I laughed in 2016, I just put my feet up and I was laughing.
hotep jesus
Yo, I have a YouTube video, I'm just laughing for like 10 minutes.
tim pool
Because dude, I've been through hardship to where I'm like, this is not the biggest problem anybody's gonna have.
And they're like, but he's gonna take people's rights away.
It's like, dude, you do not remember anything about politics or what goes on.
You know nothing about living in a city like Chicago.
These suburb kids think they have it bad because the TV told them it's true.
They need to go out and go camping for a couple weeks.
Just like, get back to nature and just learn how to start a fire.
Maybe hunt something.
hotep jesus
No, they need to go to the hood.
ian crossland
Go fishing.
tim pool
I mean, I would say that.
hotep jesus
They need to come hang out in Trenton, New Jersey in the jungles.
That's what they need to do.
They need a field trip to the hood and come live in the projects for a few weeks.
ian crossland
It's so easy to get hurt in life.
It's so easy to die.
It's so hard to live and stay healthy.
It takes everything that we can.
All this technology that we've built, modern medicine, clean water.
Fresh air, like it's so easy to die.
And it's so easy.
unidentified
Is it?
ian crossland
Yeah, you could.
There are so many things that can kill you in this world.
And there's so there's just like specific ways to live.
hotep jesus
Why are you so negative?
ian crossland
Well, I'm a real I'm realist.
I used to be.
hotep jesus
I think it's so easy to live.
It is, dude.
ian crossland
It's not.
In our world, it is.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Because we have clothing and food that's provided for us.
lydia smith
We're the first world country.
hotep jesus
Capitalism has... Oh, you're saying that in some of the other countries.
lydia smith
Right.
Oh, yeah, it's a fight to live.
Comparatively speaking.
tim pool
Yeah, some places you gotta, you know, yeah, you're... This is one of the problems we have as a culture right now, is that we used to have to run full speed every day.
And I mean, figuratively, to survive.
You wake up, you work, then as soon as the sun goes down, you're sleeping, but you work nonstop all day, every day.
hotep jesus
So check this out.
You keep talking about all these people in this country that have a lower life expectancy rate, right?
It's because of this iPhone.
It's because of our freedom.
The cost of our freedom is somebody else's freedom.
tim pool
What do you mean?
lydia smith
That's true.
hotep jesus
The cost of United States freedom is somebody else.
All right, so whatever sneakers you got on.
lydia smith
Slaves in China.
hotep jesus
The slaves in China.
unidentified
Yep.
hotep jesus
Our technology.
The slaves that's mining the coltan.
The slaves that's mining the gold.
There's always going to be somebody's freedom that's taken for yours.
tim pool
Well, for your luxury.
Because we don't need the phone.
You can go out and live in the middle of the woods and, you know, make a mud hut.
hotep jesus
You could.
You could.
tim pool
But it's easier not to.
hotep jesus
Right.
A lot easier not to.
That's a very hard life to live.
tim pool
This is what's funny about when people criticize the left, saying things like, you use an iPhone, you use this computer, and then they have this comic where they're like, oh, I'll participate in society, or whatever, some stupid comic.
They think that they're allowed to use these things that cause suffering around the world because they're more effective and better off with them.
They don't understand that you want to complain about the millionaires, the billionaires, the big corporations, the exploitation.
You want to complain about capitalism and then use all of the fruits of how capitalism enriches your life and makes it easier.
But you choose to do it at any point.
You could say no.
But they don't want to.
They don't want to.
They want the luxury.
hotep jesus
They want the luxury.
tim pool
They want to complain about it to seem like... You know what it is?
It's guilt.
They're like, I feel really bad that the people at the Foxconn labs are walking off the building in mass suicide.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll complain about it, but I'll keep using the phone.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
That's what I tell people.
Like when people say, Oh, I love America.
I'm like, you don't love America.
You love the luxury of America.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You love the fact that, you know, we, we take a dump in water.
Like, that's what you love.
You love that running water.
You love that electricity.
You love that Wi-Fi.
You love that beer.
You love that bread and circus.
lydia smith
Fast food, man.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's what you love.
You love the luxury of America.
You love the fact that we don't gotta deal with mosquitoes like that.
And if we did, we could just buy a can of Off.
The conveniences of living in America.
But all of that comes at the expense of somebody else's freedom, man.
Or it comes at the expense of nature.
tim pool
But we're trying to change that.
One of the big moves, or I think one of the big drivers of Trump's base is bringing manufacturing back to America and becoming more reliant on ourselves and our community.
hotep jesus
Yes.
Brilliant.
Brilliant thing to do.
Donald Trump's the best president we've ever had.
tim pool
You think so?
hotep jesus
He is the best president we've ever had.
At least in my lifetime.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's a fair point actually.
hotep jesus
You know, at least in my lifetime.
tim pool
There's a lot of things he was bad about in terms of character and demeanor, but in terms of these past couple of years with dealing with pulling our troops out, that to me was like... Great on foreign policy.
hotep jesus
We didn't enter no new wars.
Amazing.
Wow, we could do that?
I didn't even know that was a possibility.
tim pool
I thought it was just a thing that happened, like America would slip and fall and drop a missile on a foreign country.
unidentified
Whoops!
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And we were close to it because he brought Bolton in.
Bolton said we'd be celebrating in Tehran.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I mean, I think I want to say under Clinton and maybe even Bush, you know, the late 90s and the early 2000s was kind of good, man.
You could leave a job and walk right into another one.
Economy was booming then too.
Great, great economy.
Economy ain't looked that well in a long time.
tim pool
No, under Trump, it was better.
It was.
hotep jesus
Yeah?
tim pool
To quote Jim Cramer.
hotep jesus
Well, I mean, I lived that.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I lived that, Tim.
You think it was better?
It's one thing to study what they say.
It's another thing to live in the late 90s and the early 2000s.
lydia smith
Anecdotal evidence there.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Let me tell you this.
In the late 90s, I was only able to get, like, one Power Ranger action figure.
But for some reason, now that I'm 34, I could buy all of them.
unidentified
The economy must be Yeah, it must be way good right now.
ian crossland
It seems like the economy is falling apart right now with our 27 trillion national debt.
tim pool
Well, it's not just debt, it's COVID.
COVID's killing us.
I'll tell you this.
ian crossland
It's the debt, though.
tim pool
They just had the CDC director on.
I'm pretty sure he was saying, we never said to shut down schools.
We never said to do this.
And New York's like, we're going to do it anyway.
unidentified
It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
Why?
Why is New York shutting down the schools when the CDC has never recommended that?
Because then the parents can't go to work.
So why would they do this?
lydia smith
Cripple the economy.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crippling the economy.
I'm not gonna say they're doing it on purpose, but man, these people, they must know what they're doing.
Destroying the economy.
hotep jesus
They want bigger rent.
They want you to know why you need them.
bigger rent. They want you to know why you need them. Well, check this out. If we remove
the little guy, you know, his little mom and pop shop and all of that, and we make this
Amazon monopoly come about who will spend money and doesn't care if they lose money.
tim pool
Yeah, that's crazy, right?
hotep jesus
Then I can charge them a premium in rent.
And then, you know, real estate goes up in this area and all of these people are invested in real estate and invested in these companies.
And so are these, you know.
tim pool
You know the Amazon store in Seattle?
The one where you... Okay.
So you sign up.
When you walk in, the cameras scan you.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Take whatever you want and you walk out and it charges you, right?
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
So I did this bit where I went in and figured out how to actually walk out without getting charged for any goods.
Very easily.
hotep jesus
How'd you do that?
tim pool
So, uh, I already released this information before, and I'll tell you this, when people learn how a magic trick is done, it loses the magic.
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
But it really is very simple.
So, when I saw that they launched this store, I'll tell you the first part, the first point I wanted to make.
When I discovered how to easily steal whatever I want without being tracked, I called and asked for a comment.
And the response I got was basically, we don't care about shoplifting because we make so much money that you could steal everything and we still make more money.
hotep jesus
Yes!
tim pool
They were like, by not hiring anybody, we're making ridiculous profits.
Stealing means nothing to us.
hotep jesus
Yeah, and shortage is accounted for anyway.
tim pool
Exactly.
So they put in the price, and so they're like, we don't care that you figured this out.
And I was like- Shrinkage, I'm sorry.
It was so easy to do, anybody could do it right now.
And they're like, we literally don't care.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
So here's how you do it.
It's really simple.
You just have someone else fill up a bag.
And then you pick the bag up and walk out.
And it doesn't charge you.
Because they're tracking the bag, not what's in it.
So if someone fills a bag up, and then you pick it up and walk out with it, and then the person walks out with no bag, no one gets charged.
hotep jesus
Oh, that's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, so don't do that, by the way.
hotep jesus
Hey, for all my people out there trying to get reparations.
tim pool
Don't do it, no!
unidentified
No, don't do that.
tim pool
But the point was, they told me, they were like, the funny thing was, they kind of freaked out when they found out I did it, because I filmed a video on it.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And I showed, like, my app said nothing was charged.
And I made sure something got charged on purpose.
So you could see that I had a receipt.
It was like a pack of gum.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
And I was like, but you can clearly see we got a bunch of stuff.
But we did pay for it.
I didn't steal anything.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
What we did was we just swapped bags to see if it would work.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
And so they basically were like, wait a minute, did you swap bags with someone?
And I was like, yes.
And they were like, oh.
And I was like, but you realize that allows people to walk out like, oh, of course.
But, you know, we don't care.
hotep jesus
Exactly.
tim pool
We make so much money, we just don't care.
hotep jesus
And that's exactly who they want to replace New York real estate with.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
People who got money to burn.
tim pool
And then, you know what's crazy?
I was talking to my friend about COVID lockdown, and he said, we need a lockdown.
We need a lockdown now hard, and the government needs to just pay everybody to stay home.
And I said, where do you think that money comes from?
And he goes, the taxpayer.
And I was like, even if that was the case, do you know where the money is going?
It's going to big box stores.
It's going to Amazon.
It is the largest wealth transfer ever in history.
If all they did was print money, then they're diluting your money and your savings, taking your job away so you can't make money, and then giving it all to the ultra-wealthy major monopolies.
If it was just taxpayer dollars, and he was like, no, it's taxpayer dollars, they're giving it back to the people.
And then the people give it right back to Amazon, because mom and pop shops are closed.
So you're transferring your wealth to Amazon.
They don't care about losing money, they got too much, and they're gonna buy up these buildings, and they're gonna replace all these stores, and it's gonna be owned by a small handful of people.
hotep jesus
Poor people make poor decisions.
tim pool
I think so.
I think it's broad, but it is generally true.
But the way I put it is, a person is smart, people are stupid.
hotep jesus
A person is smart, people are stupid.
tim pool
It's from Men in Black.
Yeah, he says a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky animals.
hotep jesus
Yeah, especially when you put them together in packs.
Yeah, they tend to infect each other with the same ignorance.
Yeah.
So he wants a lockdown.
That's my big problem with the lockdown.
The lockdowns, it's like, a lot of governments aren't even saying it.
Like I saw like two black people, blue checks, like Oh, we need another lockdown.
For what?
If you are afraid of the COVID virus, don't come outside.
lydia smith
Lock yourself down.
hotep jesus
Quarantine yourself.
tim pool
I'll tell you this, man.
This is the libertarian versus authoritarian.
I'm not saying everybody who wants a lockdown is a hardcore authoritarian.
They might just not be very smart or it might be the one issue.
But I remember when they banned cigarettes in Chicago from bars and I didn't understand it.
They were like, they're going to pass a citywide ordinance.
You can't smoke in restaurants or bars anymore.
And I was like, I don't understand why.
Why are they doing that?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Cause, cause I don't smoke.
I hate smoke.
hotep jesus
Cause it's affecting somebody else's health.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
But I tried smoking when I was a kid.
Everyone's like, here, try a cigarette.
I tried a cigarette.
Don't like it.
I don't want to smoke.
Don't smoke.
I don't smoke weed.
I used to drink.
I don't drink.
I don't tell people they can't do it.
And so if I go to an establishment and they say, you want to smoke and people are smoking and I don't like it, you know what I do?
hotep jesus
I just leave.
tim pool
I leave.
It's really simple.
It's not very hard.
I just get up and walk out.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I totally agree with that.
You know, I like I like I like Bolton's, you know, because sometimes you got a family restaurant and it's like, oh, yeah, I got a smoking section.
And it's just like maybe restaurants should have been the ones to dictate that.
Right.
tim pool
But I think if they lose the business because families don't want to go there.
hotep jesus
Oh, yeah, exactly.
Somebody should.
And that's that's why I say, like, That ruins capitalism, right?
You come in, you set this ordinance that says, hey, you know, smoking's bad for everybody, da-da-da-da, when you could've just waited for some capitalists to say, hey, look, we don't allow smoking in our building.
Everybody come here.
And then all the non-smokers would go there, and then the smokers would go here, and everybody's happy.
tim pool
You know, I think what happened is they would slowly start making the smoking areas smaller and further away.
hotep jesus
But I guess these- You know the difference between smokers and non-smokers is?
tim pool
What is it?
hotep jesus
Smokers tip better.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
They tip better?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
Interesting.
tim pool
Really?
hotep jesus
Smokers used to tip better, bro.
tim pool
Really?
hotep jesus
Why is that?
Because they're cooler people.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
That explains it.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I mean, these are people that are cool down to earth.
Do you smoke?
I used to.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
hotep jesus
I smoke weed every now and then.
I'll have a cigarette every now and then if I'm having alcohol, like, you know, whatever, whatever.
But I'm not a smoker.
I used to be a smoker.
But nah, man, you know, non-smokers tend to be like, you know, real snooty.
tim pool
Is that how I go?
You smoke, right?
I don't smoke.
It's been a while, though.
I'm uptight and snooty and arrogant.
lydia smith
Yeah, me too.
unidentified
How dare you, sir, come into my home with your cigarettes?
hotep jesus
So we got that Puritan movement that was heavy in the United States.
And in some ways, I agree.
In some ways, I don't.
And I agree in a lot of ways, culturally.
But when they start legislating stuff, I'm like, ah, that's where I'm partnering with you, man.
tim pool
It's, you know, it's not just one way or the other.
It's not black or white.
There's nuance.
Some things that make sense to say you can't do, like asbestos maybe.
You know what I mean?
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
Because people aren't realizing that it's around them.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And then all of a sudden, something happens, people get sick.
There's also the issue when it comes to smoking.
I can understand the point, I don't necessarily agree with it, that people don't realize how much damage they're doing by having these establishments where people smoke.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
For instance, you might not mind smoking.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
You might not mind the smoke from other people.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
But it's messing you up a little bit.
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
So you go into the bar and you're like, I don't care, it doesn't bother me.
But now it's creating a net negative for, you know, for everybody else.
hotep jesus
Indeed.
tim pool
But the problem I have with that is the logical conclusion is to just take everything, take anything pleasurable, just, you know, lock people down.
And that, that's to me, that's just, It's ridiculous.
You remember what Bloomberg did when he banned soda?
Large sodas?
hotep jesus
What?
What'd he do?
tim pool
Michael Bloomberg in New York banned large soda.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure he did.
I don't know if he failed.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I remember that.
tim pool
And then Unity said, when he was asked about it, tax the poor.
He said the poor people make poor decisions.
He basically said that.
He said, you've got all these poor people that waste their money on things that are bad for their health, and if we were managing their lives for them, they'd be better off.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I mean, the government, the government just, they suck at holding, you know, some people accountable, which is why they shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions.
Because if it was me, I would just ban soda, period.
Like, look, don't sell no soda on my state.
Done.
tim pool
You would ban soda?
hotep jesus
I'd ban soda.
I mean, if I was an evil dictator.
tim pool
Oh, I'd ban cilantro.
unidentified
I'm kidding.
I just don't like it.
tim pool
I don't like fennel, anise, caraway, and cilantro.
unidentified
Get it out.
Just get rid of it.
tim pool
I just don't like it sugars. I don't like I don't like you panel anise caraway and cilantro get it out. Just get it
hotep jesus
rid of it Yeah, I know I I
Go back and forth with you know the the existence of this state of
I'm like, I don't like the existence of the state, but if I'm dictator... So hold on, here's always the big challenge, right?
tim pool
Do you think China is doing their best to dominate, to take over, to seize power and land and resources?
hotep jesus
Oh, they're doing such a great job.
tim pool
So what would happen if we didn't have the state?
They'd just walk right in.
hotep jesus
What do you mean, walk right in?
unidentified
They already took over.
They own this.
What do you mean, walk right in?
tim pool
Well, Joe Biden's president-elect, they said, so, you know, I guess so.
hotep jesus
They own our debt.
unidentified
They trade our debt.
tim pool
They own land.
They own large swaths of land in the Western U.S.
ian crossland
Yeah, Chinese military on every corner.
hotep jesus
You can't even buy something that's not from China.
Like, what do you mean?
tim pool
Well, I got this, aren't my pillows from America?
lydia smith
They are from America.
tim pool
Yeah, I got one of those MyPillow things.
Yeah, you know, MyPillow.
The pillow guy.
hotep jesus
What part of it is from America?
What part of it's from China?
tim pool
Oh, wait, he's got the Giza sheets from Egypt.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
No, I'm pretty sure they make the whole thing in America.
ian crossland
Nice, that's dope.
lydia smith
They source it here as well.
hotep jesus
Yeah, props to stuff like that, right?
So if people really cared, Like, those industries would thrive.
People say, look, let's start with pillows, right?
The great pillow revolution.
And then everybody just slowly transfer that, right?
I think we need to start with shoes.
If you want to screw over China, start with shoes.
ian crossland
Recovered plastic and graphene.
tim pool
You want to hear something crazy?
hotep jesus
Who's that?
tim pool
You want to know how they make skateboards?
hotep jesus
How?
tim pool
The wood comes from typically Canada.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
They send it to China.
They cut it and turn it into a skateboard and ship it to California.
Amazing.
hotep jesus
What is China doing that we can't do?
I'm going to tell you what.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
This is what's crazy.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
It is cheaper because of the labor costs to get the wood from Canada, ship it thousands of miles to China, then thousands of miles back because people in America for labor cost too much money.
hotep jesus
No, because we have something called minimum wage.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
But that's the problem.
And China doesn't have no minimum wage.
They're going to pay you whatever the heck to get it done.
And I like that.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
I think, you know what it might be?
It might be free trade.
hotep jesus
Well, how so?
tim pool
So, if we just said, if a skateboard is being imported, and it costs, and it's undercutting American goods, we put a tariff on it.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's one way to do it, you know, but again, that's like utilizing the government.
I just say, you know, let's like repeal these laws, like repeal minimum wage, and then that becomes a school project.
What if kids in schools for school projects made skateboards, and every kid that wanted to make skateboards Spent an hour making skateboards a day all across the nation.
tim pool
It's pretty fun, right?
hotep jesus
Like, what if that was a job for skateboarders?
Like, yo, bro, you want to really work for a day?
You know what I mean?
Like, there's ways that these things can happen.
And besides, machines are gonna do it, so you really just feed it into a machine, and the machine's gotta do the work.
tim pool
I don't know if they do it that way.
hotep jesus
Is there some hand...
lydia smith
Hand tooling?
tim pool
Like, so you put it's seven layers of wood and then mold and they put the glue on it and then they press it and they
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
hold it down for a certain amount of time.
I they probably have some kind of mass production process for sure, especially in China.
Yeah. You know, you know, the big problem is, though, is that very obviously and with all due respect, the boards
that come out of China are not good.
lydia smith
No kidding.
hotep jesus
I could imagine.
They're just trying to meet a quota and ship them out.
That's why I said you got to have people who actually care about it.
If a skateboarder made a skateboard, everyone would come out perfect.
tim pool
You know, but the big companies that know how to do it, get the labor and everything done in China, those are really, really, those are the best.
So when the wood comes from U.S.
or Canadian rock maple and gets sent over and then press and everything gets sent back and then they quality test it and they know what they're getting.
hotep jesus
So when does the Tim Pool skateboarding manufacturing company come?
tim pool
Actually, yeah, we're going to do it.
We're totally doing it.
hotep jesus
That's dope.
tim pool
So we got the detached building outside.
They're turning it into a skate park.
OK, and then we've got a back room and I'm just going to I'm going to start making a bunch of gear.
hotep jesus
That's how you do it.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll have some beanies.
We'll have some shirts.
We'll have some skateboards and we're going to film videos.
hotep jesus
Save America one skateboard at a time.
lydia smith
That's correct.
tim pool
Made in America.
So here's a challenge though.
Dude, everything's made in China.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
So I've looked at some American companies and they're like, I'm like, they're not that good because they're expensive for one.
I don't mind that.
But that means people buy it from me.
I'm not looking to make a hard profit off of the goods.
I'll probably sell them at cost to cover costs because we're going to be doing videos and we're going to be doing YouTube.
And so we'll probably try and find ways to monetize in other directions.
But it's still gonna be expensive compared to these boards they sent over to China because the labor is so cheap.
hotep jesus
Man goes to Chinese man.
He said, Chinese man, you're getting these materials from another Chinese man for double the price you're getting it that I'm offering.
Chinese man go, yeah, but I buy from Chinese man.
tim pool
Yep.
hotep jesus
You see that?
He'll pay double to keep the money in the fam, to keep the power of the supply chain, before he allows you to infiltrate the industry.
That's culture.
That's what Americans don't got.
They don't got that culture where they say, I'll do without unless one of my own makes it.
tim pool
It's that independent spirit.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Individualism.
And stop asking Trump to do it.
Trump got enough swamp creatures around him to worry about.
tim pool
You think he's going to win?
hotep jesus
No.
I want him to.
I mean, you know, we got an old girl with the Kraken.
What's her name?
Sydney Powell?
lydia smith
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You know, allegedly she got the Kraken.
It's like, let that thing out.
You know, we only got like two, three.
I mean, if she had it, she would have released the joint, right?
tim pool
Maybe not.
The argument is that she's got to wait to present it to a judge.
And I think it's a fair point.
If she started going into the media and dumping all these documents, the judge would get mad.
hotep jesus
Well, that too.
And then people could tear it apart and start to plan for it.
I know they're going to have to have some time for discovery.
tim pool
Don't give your enemies your strategy.
hotep jesus
So I get it.
There's a lot of things that we don't understand about the legal system that has to take place.
So I'm putting my trust in Sidney Powell and Giuliani and hoping that they know what they're doing, right?
And I think there's a chance that they might be able to bring something before the Supreme Court and keep President Trump.
And I think that there is a play to be had there because the media is going to take a ton of money.
They're going to win big off of Trump because people will be mad for another four years.
You know how much that's worth, the equity in that?
So, I'd love to see it.
I'd love to see the left crying in tears again.
They're gonna torch the streets though.
tim pool
You remember 2016?
hotep jesus
Yes.
tim pool
You said you were laughing.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
I was having a good time.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
We saw this like, throughout the night there was a slow motion breakdown where you had the New York Times had that meter and it was like 99% Hillary Clinton.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then throughout the night it slowly started moving over.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
And you could see with each passing moment the meter moving the sweat was getting thicker and thicker and like the freak out and then once it crossed over to 50-50 they're like shaking.
I was in a room, I was hanging out with Cassandra Fairbanks, and she was all for Trump, but she was like, I know he's not gonna win.
And everyone else, this office, were like snooty Democrat pro-Hillary.
Throughout the night, she started smiling and laughing.
Everyone else was freaking out crying.
Once they called it for Trump, I just was laughing.
Hilarious.
But I tell you this, man.
If Trump pulls it off, whatever their plan is, maybe there's a crackin', I don't know.
I think chances are slim.
Like you said, you don't think he's gonna win, but we'll see.
But I'll tell you this.
hotep jesus
I hope he does, though.
tim pool
They went out dancing in the street this time.
hotep jesus
Who, the Million Mack of March?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, all the Democrats.
hotep jesus
Oh, yeah, when this happened, yeah.
tim pool
They're popping champagne, they're pulling their masks off, they're sharing bottles.
Could you imagine a month-long slow-motion defeat compared to a one-day slow-motion defeat?
hotep jesus
I'm hoping that's what happens.
tim pool
Instead of just a half an hour of them get, like, nervously shaking, it's gonna be a week of them, like, freaking out if we get to that point.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
But the other side of me says, if Biden is true and indeed the president, then we get to see the disappearance of Black Lives Matter, and I'd love to see them disappear, right?
Black people, we go back to the back of the bus, and I like it better there.
You know, white people leave us alone and stop trying to use us for their agendas.
Because if Biden's president, you can no longer say there's a police brutality problem because that would mean you voted him in.
tim pool
That's true.
That's the difference.
So this stuff started under Obama.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Well, it didn't start under Obama.
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Well, Black Lives Matter officially formalized, but the things that were happening were happening for a while.
But now the big difference with Biden is that they voted him in.
hotep jesus
Right, so you can't complain now.
tim pool
You had back during Ferguson and stuff, like I didn't vote for Obama the second time.
I voted him for the first time and then immediately regretted it because he started the war and all that.
He started doing more war stuff.
But I knew a lot of people who were like, I didn't vote.
I didn't vote for him.
I don't care.
They were young.
They were 18.
It was 2012, 2013.
So they didn't vote for him the first or second time.
Now they did.
Now they did vote for Biden.
So now it's like when all this stuff keeps happening, You got nobody to blame yourself.
hotep jesus
And what's going to happen is somebody's going to capture some police brutality on film.
They're going to record it.
It's going to go viral on Twitter or something else.
And then they're going to ask themselves, why isn't MSNBC covering this?
Why isn't CNN?
And it's like, well, do you remember that under Obama's presidency, when Black Lives Matter first hit the scene and it was a hashtag, they wouldn't let the hashtag trend and they gave it unfavorable coverage?
Those are the times we're gonna go back to and I like those times when they ignore black people because that's when we really start coming together.
It works really well for us.
When the white liberals in our business, it just sends us awry.
tim pool
This is what I can't stand about the modern left, though.
I grew up on the south side of Chicago.
We had people of all different races and backgrounds.
Never really came up.
What?
unidentified
Race?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
I always tell the story, we had one friend who would call everybody by their racial slur, but we thought it was funny.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we grew up watching South Park and Family Guy, so it was like... Oh, very toxic culture.
Yeah, you think so?
hotep jesus
Well, according to left standards.
unidentified
Oh, right, right, right.
tim pool
But having our friend walk up and be like, you know, he's like, yo, what up?
And then, you know, spout like a slur.
I'd be like, well, what up, dude?
And we'd like, what's going on?
It was like we were all hanging out.
It was never an issue to anybody.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Those are the great 90s, early 2000s.
tim pool
And then I went to Occupy Wall Street and all of a sudden they were like, we got to put all the different races in different groups.
No joke.
They had voting bodies.
hotep jesus
Which Occupy Wall Street?
tim pool
New York.
hotep jesus
Zuccotti Park?
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You know Dwayne Henry?
tim pool
Uh, I'm pretty sure.
hotep jesus
He ran media there, had the long dreadlocks.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus
That's my homie.
tim pool
Right on.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, well they created caucuses where they put different races in different voting groups.
hotep jesus
Really?
tim pool
I'm not a fan of that, nah.
hotep jesus
Wow, I didn't know that.
I used to pop up there every once in a while, give a few speeches, you know, ruffle a few feathers and argue with people.
tim pool
Did you have the same hair?
hotep jesus
Nah, it was super short then.
tim pool
Right on.
hotep jesus
It was just growing in.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
That's young Daddy Boston, I was young Hotel Jesus.
tim pool
I was hanging out there, I'd sleep in the park.
hotep jesus
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, totally.
hotep jesus
It was a good time.
tim pool
It was fun.
hotep jesus
But think about the premise of that.
tim pool
A lot of crazy people, though.
hotep jesus
What was the premise of that?
unidentified
Federal Reserve?
tim pool
Initially?
ian crossland
I mean, it was... Initially, it's the same problem now.
They're blaming Trump for all the woes, whereas we're printing up trillions and trillions of dollars in deficit.
hotep jesus
But you see how the original movement was centered around the big problem, the real problem.
ian crossland
And it should be, too.
hotep jesus
And then all of a sudden it shifted to...
All these other problems!
ian crossland
I went to this Million MAGA march and I was talking to people on the street about the Federal Reserve and everybody would light up when I would start talking about it.
tim pool
Have you seen this comic where there's this like, it's like a very fancy looking room and there's a guy sitting at a desk with like a big fancy chair and there's a big window.
Outside the window it's a bunch of protesters and a big sign that says Occupy Wall Street being held up and the man sitting at the table is smiling and he says, Introduce Identity Politics.
Yeah, that's what that's really what happened.
hotep jesus
Yeah, the people were like, man, the revolution will not be televised.
Y'all revolution that y'all following is controlled.
It's controlled opposition.
And they saw that they saw quickly with the Occupy movement.
They said, Oh, no, we can't have this.
We got to start controlling the opposition.
And then that's what they did with Antifa, Black Lives Matter and some of these other organizations.
tim pool
Early on at Occupy, like the first week, there were conservatives and libertarians down there hanging out with these like socialists and anarchists.
hotep jesus
Really?
tim pool
But here's what happens.
Two things.
You get these Brooklyn progressives, trust fund kids, a small handful of them, and yes, they're real, they exist, I know them, and I was friends with them.
They didn't have to work, so they had apartments, they're really well off, and they would come in the morning and then organize.
So this ideology became much more pervasive because they could be there and didn't have to work.
But the older people who showed up early on, and many of the more libertarian people, They worked right so what happens is you take these rich progressives college students who have nothing nothing else to do, right?
They're there all day setting things up organizing and then the other people are going to work coming back going to work Eventually the whole place got dominated by just leftist ideology Mm.
unidentified
And then the older people after a week were like, well, I got to go back to work.
Yeah.
tim pool
So they leave and there were even people who weren't necessarily older maybe like, you know, people who were in
their 30s at the Times 10 years ago now almost 10 years ago and they'd be
like I can only be out here for about a week I gotta go back to my job. That was me. Yep
hotep jesus
I was wondering, I'm like, yo, how are these people sitting here?
Like, don't they got jobs and lives?
Like, how are they doing this?
tim pool
The people who did eventually had to move on.
hotep jesus
Wow.
tim pool
And then the people who didn't started coming and hanging out and became dominated by a specific ideology.
hotep jesus
So the leftist took that over too, huh?
tim pool
Yeah, and you know what the crazy thing about it is?
Is that, uh, people, the history of Occupy Wall Street is, is all fake news.
Like, because it was written by, it was written by those who wanted it to be romanticized the whole time.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
They won't tell you about how they were stealing money.
They won't tell you about the organizers who started getting $800 a night hotel rooms.
hotep jesus
Oh.
tim pool
They won't tell you about the organizers who took a, uh, you know, a laptop was donated for the community and then one of the organizers was like, well, I need it more than they do.
Yeah, they don't tell you about that stuff Mmm, they don't tell you about how the park got divided
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
into two different groups the General Assembly and the General Union and the General Union
Said that the resources and donations were being stolen by these trust fund Brooklyn kids who don't even sleep here
Mmm, there was one night where the General Union which was this was the west side of the park
Raided the kitchen they went to the kitchen and said the people who sleep here in the park for your protest
Yeah, they need water And the people who work the kitchen, who didn't sleep there, said, we don't have any.
So they jumped over the table and flipped some stuff over and found bottles of water and picked them up, carried them out and started handing them out to people.
These are the stories that most people didn't hear.
hotep jesus
So which side was you backing?
tim pool
Neither.
hotep jesus
Which one?
Well, in that particular situation, who do you think was in the right?
unidentified
The people?
tim pool
The union.
hotep jesus
That's the people that stole the water bottles?
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
hotep jesus
But if they're handing them out to people who are rich kids?
tim pool
No, they were handing them out to the people who are sleeping in the park.
hotep jesus
But you said the people sleeping in a park are the rich kids.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
The people who are rich would go back to their homes in Brooklyn where they had apartments.
And first thing in the morning show back up clean, you know, ready to go and presentable to organize, collect donations, go on TV.
And the people sleeping in the park were getting filthy and stinky and gross.
And so those people started getting mad.
Like, dude, we're the ones who are making this Occupy happen, and you're the one exploiting it.
And guess who got to go on TV and do all this preaching and stuff?
It was the kids who had apartments.
I'm not saying that all of them were rich.
Some of them were.
Some of them were, like, as rich as they come.
Some of them were just, you know, they had apartments in Brooklyn.
And so that already put them at an advantage over some of these other people.
hotep jesus
So who do we blame that on?
unidentified
Nobody.
hotep jesus
What's the cause of that?
Why do things like that happen?
When you have something good, why do things like that happen?
tim pool
I think this was an issue of power over time.
hotep jesus
The people who had- The state of human consciousness.
Yeah.
The state of human consciousness.
She mentioned before human evolution.
The human has not evolved.
The human has de-evolved.
We're going backwards in evolution and technology is helping us do that.
We are not civilized.
There's nothing civilized about the United States.
When they came over and stole land from the natives, that wasn't civilized.
To kill people isn't civilized.
tim pool
Isn't it different today, though?
hotep jesus
No.
There's nothing civilized about garbage being on the street in New York City, and it's stinking.
How is that civilized?
tim pool
No, that I would agree with.
hotep jesus
There's nothing civilized about America.
lydia smith
Yes, but I think that violence is the default state of the human being.
I think that violence is what we come from, and the fact that we have any kind of peace at all is a form of evolution.
hotep jesus
Well, my answers would say violence is the default state for the white man.
lydia smith
You don't think it's the default state for everyone?
hotep jesus
They would say the white man.
That's y'all.
Because y'all are the only ones that say that shit.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
Don't look at me.
I come from a mixed race family.
I'm absolved of all these accusations.
hotep jesus
You guys tell on yourselves.
Y'all admit it.
unidentified
You say the default state of humans is violence.
hotep jesus
And the HOTEPs say, no, that's not the default state.
tim pool
Well, Lydia did just say it, but that's the leftists for the most part.
It's like critical race theory, you know, whiteness stuff.
I think most conservatives wouldn't say that.
hotep jesus
I don't know what conservatives would say, but I hear that a lot from white people.
tim pool
You know what's interesting?
You brought up Ian having no faith in people.
I think it's interesting when conservatives are the ones advocating for everybody to have guns because they're not worried about if someone else has a gun.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
That's interesting.
hotep jesus
Yeah, because they believe in people more.
tim pool
That's interesting.
hotep jesus
They actually believe in people.
Conservatives believe in people.
Liberals do not believe in people, which is why they try to legislate everything against them.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying, like, the white people being the violent one.
That's the leftist critical race theory stuff.
hotep jesus
Yeah, but she's not a leftist and she said it.
How did that get in her brain?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
lydia smith
Well, I read a book about it because I...
hotep jesus
Who wrote the book?
lydia smith
If you go through history, though, you can read about the Aztecs, you can read about the Mayans, you read about the Japanese, you read about what Unit 741 that throws the fingers off people till their flesh fell off.
unidentified
I mean, dude, dude, dude, Chaka Zulu was legit a warlord.
hotep jesus
I mean, Shaka Zulu, you talking about, that's post-colonial era.
When you got the colonists coming in and turning the Zulu tribe into 13 different tribes, that's resistance to white power.
tim pool
What about Genghis Khan?
hotep jesus
Genghis Khan's a white man.
We not claiming him.
tim pool
Genghis Khan is a good man.
hotep jesus
No, I'm trolling, I'm trolling.
lydia smith
I got a question for you before we go.
Before we move on from this, I really want to know, have you been to Africa?
hotep jesus
Yes.
lydia smith
Really?
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
What part did you go to?
hotep jesus
Tanzania, Dar es Salaam.
lydia smith
Interesting.
So what did you see there?
Did you feel like they were really, really well evolved?
Did you find a great deal of peace there?
hotep jesus
Yeah, you could.
Yeah, it's one of the most peaceful places.
The most violence you'll have is maybe knife violence, but you know, you're pretty much safe in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
There's tons of poverty, but the culture there, here's the difference.
The people there can live off the land until they legislate against it, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
hotep jesus
So if I'm hungry, I could go climb this tree and have a mango, or I can go and fish the sea.
There's no communist dictator that's going to tell me, hey, there's no fishing allowed.
I watch the people with my own two eyes live off the land, catch crab and catch fish and catch coconut.
lydia smith
So it's really interesting that you bring that up because this is something that Thomas Sowell talks about.
He talks about the reason that people who lived in the North, people who ended up being white Scandinavians, Yeah.
Having a sense of preparation and needing to sacrifice for the future, because if they didn't, they'd die in the winter.
hotep jesus
Correct.
lydia smith
Whereas in the African, around the equator, you're warm, you could just drop it by the side of the road, it would grow two weeks later and you'd be good to go.
hotep jesus
Facts.
lydia smith
And he said that this affected our culture very deeply.
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
Thomas Sowell is my strongest influencer.
Hold on, hold on.
He's the person who makes me think.
tim pool
What about East Asia?
You see, you know, here's the thing, right?
I was hanging out in North Dakota talking to some of these leftists at the North Dakota Access Pipeline protest, and this guy started telling me, long story short, I said, I've got to make it to LA for a meeting.
And the guy said, that's colonial thinking.
And I was like, what do you mean?
He was like, this idea of schedules, like the Native Americans, they don't have this, man.
You know, they wake up when they got to wake up, they work when they got to work, but like you, the schedule, that's colonial thinking.
And then when I was like, he said, time and scheduling are colonial.
I said, what are you talking about?
Like the East Asia developed a whole bunch of stuff well before like white Europeans.
hotep jesus
It was calendars.
tim pool
The, the, the, the compass was a thousand years before, uh, in, in China before Europe.
And this dude said, yeah, but you know, Europeans went to China and I'm like, you know what, man?
And I mean, I mean, this half jokingly, you guys are talking about Africa or like Northern Europe.
I'm like, what about Asia?
Huh?
Like, we had warlords.
They brutally raped and murdered people like crazy.
lydia smith
What is it?
You're 5% Japanese because it was an accident, dude.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, right.
So, yeah, I'm mostly Korean but part Japanese because, you know, Japan was like... Brutal.
Yeah, taking the women, you know what I mean?
hotep jesus
But, I mean, we have to question our own psyche before we even pontificate upon history and the records that we read.
We got to check ourselves.
We can't just say that because I've read in a book that human consciousness begins at violence.
You can't accept that.
You can't accept that just simply for the pure health of the race, the human race.
lydia smith
I don't think that it's good.
I think our current situation is better, which was what makes me think that we have evolved.
hotep jesus
Our current situation is better relative to the time.
lydia smith
Right.
hotep jesus
Right.
I would disagree in some ways and I would agree in some ways.
Right.
It's better because you're living in it.
lydia smith
Right.
hotep jesus
Right.
And what you read about the old times seems like it's all bad.
And and I'm like, I don't know.
I take a time machine back.
I might be right.
I got my girlfriend that nobody wants because I live in the middle of nowhere, whereas today I might have to compete with 20 other dudes on Instagram who got money and is DMing her.
Life was simpler back then, you know?
tim pool
You know what's crazy about, I'm watching these movies, like period pieces from like, you know, 1600s, 1700s, is that nothing happened.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
Relative to today, where every day there's something crazy going on.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
Back then you'd wake up, tend to the chickens.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, till the field or whatever, you know, go about your work.
And then it was like once a month when the post writer came by.
And you were like, wow, that happened three months ago, huh?
That's crazy.
ian crossland
How about that?
It was court drama back then, in the king's court is where all the drama was.
hotep jesus
What do you think that does for human consciousness?
Aren't you zenned out?
What do people do now when they want to get zenned out?
They go to Colorado and they hit the mountains, right?
tim pool
Burning man, I guess.
hotep jesus
You get away from the technology, right?
They have these things called retreats and technology retreats and you get away from the technology.
And what do people always say?
Like, I'm so much different when I come back.
And then when I've used social media, it looks so much different.
Okay.
So your consciousness changed.
So what's really altering our consciousness is the millions of thoughts that get dumped into our mind by this device that tells us, you know, humans are naturally violent.
tim pool
You ever tried DMT?
hotep jesus
Humans are- Oh my gosh.
unidentified
You want to hit me with the Joe Roger question?
We got that comic from George Alexander.
hotep jesus
I have not.
I don't do- I'm black.
I don't do white people drugs.
tim pool
Maybe that's why I did it because of the part Asian in me.
hotep jesus
No DMT, no psychedelics.
I can't say I won't do it, but my mind is so out there I'm scared to do it.
lydia smith
Even further out.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And I had a friend who, who I watched, um, who was a sane individual.
He did some sort of, uh, psychedelic drug and it reverted him into a 10 year old.
tim pool
So now I'm kind of like, I've, I've, I, I had stories growing up about people who had bad trips and never came, never came back.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why I've just been like, and the way I'm like in my head now, I'm like, I don't need to get that much further.
Cause I, I'm in my head, you know, like I have 35 different personalities and we have great conversations together.
lydia smith
That sounds great.
hotep jesus
You know, and I think I want to stay there.
The most I'll do is Adderall.
Adderall is a great drug.
I think everybody should try it once.
tim pool
Nah, I think all drugs are bad.
I'm not a fan of any of it.
hotep jesus
You think all drugs are bad?
tim pool
For the most part.
I like that.
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
I understand that when we're talking about drugs that might actually cure a disease, that's different.
hotep jesus
Have you ever had Adderall before?
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Didn't really do anything.
unidentified
Nothing.
hotep jesus
We went and walked around.
You just sat there?
tim pool
That's the problem.
hotep jesus
We walked around.
That's the problem.
Adderall is not for just sitting and walking around.
Adderall is for getting shit done.
tim pool
I know people who have problems and it's like these things didn't help them.
I know people who have been prescribed medications.
It doesn't help them.
It doesn't.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
I think, I think people need to strengthen their willpower and need to strengthen their core.
I'm not going to be as so blind as to say that everybody, like, I know people who are on antidepressants because there's nothing they can do.
Like depression is a medical issue.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
It's a dependency.
tim pool
I think there are instances, like, I've heard all these stories where someone will say something dumb, like, if you're depressed, just get over it.
It's like, dude, people who are depressed can't do that.
Otherwise, they'd probably have better solutions.
But I do think, for the most part, people need to exercise.
They need to eat right.
They need to be well-rounded.
They need to, like, have some kind of meditation or some kind of... You need mental fortitude and you need to strengthen yourself.
lydia smith
I actually really think that this ties into what you were saying earlier, which is something that I was going to say that I agree with you on.
I'm a huge proponent of understanding yourself.
I don't think that you get to understand the world until you understand yourself.
You can think about yourself for years on end, not in a selfish way, but in a way that I want to figure out what's going on with me.
I would know what I'm thinking.
I think this is why Jordan Peterson took off.
And I think that if he's turning people away from drugs, that's fantastic.
I think that really ties together.
hotep jesus
You are who you are when you're by yourself.
lydia smith
Exactly.
hotep jesus
And I try to have the most pure thoughts when I'm by myself.
That's why I pick up on stuff when you guys say all these pessimistic stuff.
unidentified
I'm like, why do you guys think that about people?
hotep jesus
Pissing on me?
That's not even a thought I would allow to enter my mind.
I practice purification of my consciousness.
lydia smith
I would also argue that it's very important to try to entertain other people's ideas and see where they're coming from.
hotep jesus
I entertain all of them.
That's a major key to being who I am.
Like you heard when he said, you know, like I was like, oh, I love Adderall.
And he was like, you know, drugs are bad.
And I'm like, I agree, right?
Like, I love that exchange because that's how you sharpen this prism of my mind.
It's like, I get to see the world through your eyes.
I get to see the world through his eyes.
So next time I'm thinking about anarchy, I'm like, what are we going to do about people that like pissing on people's faces?
lydia smith
Yeah, you gotta know about that.
ian crossland
Call the cops!
hotep jesus
No, we ain't calling the cops.
No, we're dealing with it.
We're gonna call the HOTEP security team.
lydia smith
My little friend.
hotep jesus
HOTEP task force.
ian crossland
But what if the other guy calls his task force and then the other guy calls his task force?
tim pool
I got it.
hotep jesus
Mine is more badass.
ian crossland
How do you know?
tim pool
We build a culture around, instead of fighting to solve our problems, We just do some kind of, you know, like sporting event like, okay, okay, everybody stop, we gotta stop.
Soccer match, we're gonna do it.
Dance off.
hotep jesus
I had this dude that wanted to kick my ass one day.
Big bully guy.
Wanted to kick my ass.
You know what happened?
Talked my way right out of it.
unidentified
There you go.
lydia smith
You're gonna run away.
hotep jesus
Talked my way right out of it.
I've talked people out of so many different situations.
It's understanding human psychology, you know, it does wonderful things.
ian crossland
What about like Hong Kong?
hotep jesus
Um, so one time I was, uh, with my homegirl and, uh, my fiance and we were smooching outside the car.
Some dude rolls up on us to rob us.
He's like, yo, I just came from the gym.
I need some money.
I'm like, oh bro, how much you need?
She was gone.
She hopped in the car, lock all the doors.
I'm sitting outside with this dude who's sweating, got his wife beat around.
He's like, yo, I need some money.
I'm like, Dude, how much you need, bro?
He's like, yo, I need like $20.
I'm like, that's it, bro?
I'm like, I looked around, I found an ATM.
I'm like, there's an ATM right there.
I would give you a ride over there, let you hop in the car, but you scared my lady.
Meet me by the ATM.
I got you, bro.
I hop in the car.
tim pool
It's about... It's about knowing, yeah.
hotep jesus
It's about...
Controlling your fear.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Identifying emotions, thinking on your feet.
You gotta have that level of consciousness.
We have to work on our consciousness.
I keep saying it, man.
And there's a lot of things you can just avoid, man.
I swear to God, I could talk myself out of a gunfight, man.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
I believe you.
ian crossland
I do agree that we are evolving.
That hominids are not going to be sapien forever.
That we'll develop some sort of psychic connection or develop our psychic connection.
hotep jesus
No, we're destroying that.
ian crossland
But a lot of people are with food, different high fructose, with aspartame, with staring into a computer screen.
hotep jesus
Do you know about Lemuria?
ian crossland
I've heard of Lemuria.
It's an ancient civilization.
unidentified
Yes!
hotep jesus
Atlantis!
Right?
These are the people that are operating off of the intuition.
These are people that are operating off of high powers.
These are people that didn't need cell phones, because if I wanted to talk to you, I'd just look at you and transmit the thoughts.
ian crossland
They got wiped out by a comet, so they didn't have the tech.
unidentified
A comet?
ian crossland
Yeah, the comet that shattered over North America and melted the glaciers.
hotep jesus
They didn't have the tech to stop the comet.
ian crossland
Right.
hotep jesus
What if they had the tech to leave the Earth and we didn't know it?
unidentified
That'd be awesome.
ian crossland
And they did leave?
tim pool
And they did leave.
ian crossland
But I don't think they did, unfortunately.
hotep jesus
How do you know?
ian crossland
All signs point to they got covered with mud.
hotep jesus
But how do you know the people didn't leave?
ian crossland
Well, there's just no evidence of it.
hotep jesus
There's no evidence that they didn't leave?
ian crossland
There's evidence that Atlantis got covered by mud.
hotep jesus
Can't prove a negative.
ian crossland
Atlantis?
The eye of the Sahara, yeah.
hotep jesus
That the city, where are the bodies?
ian crossland
All under the mud, man.
unidentified
I don't know.
hotep jesus
How much would it cost to stop the next comet from wiping us out?
tim pool
A lot of energy.
ian crossland
A lot of focus.
tim pool
How much will it cost to fund an expedition to go and start doing a dig at the ISR?
ian crossland
70 million dollars.
hotep jesus
How much would it cost to stop the next comet from wiping us out?
tim pool
Man, the entire GDP of the planet.
ian crossland
A lot of energy. A lot of focus.
hotep jesus
You think, do you think we can do it?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Heck yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, we cannot pass that on.
hotep jesus
I love him.
He's optimistic about the wildest stuff.
unidentified
But these little problems that we got, like people pissing on you?
ian crossland
Oh, that's too impossible without government.
Humans are wild animals that we tamed.
We basically tamed our bodies.
hotep jesus
Why are we wild?
ian crossland
We're just monkeys.
Evolved monkeys.
hotep jesus
That's another white dog.
ian crossland
I think monkeys ate a bunch of mushrooms and evolved over time and inbred and evolved into what we are.
We seem to be.
I mean, we're very similar to monkeys and apes and stuff.
hotep jesus
We're more similar to plants, but go ahead.
tim pool
Why do you think plants?
Why is that?
hotep jesus
I ain't gonna go into it because I don't know all the science to be saying that shit.
But if you go look it up, are we more similar to apes or plants?
And I need to tell you a lot about the similarities between the human body and plants.
ian crossland
We may not have evolved from them.
hotep jesus
I haven't studied that stuff in years, but.
ian crossland
It seems like, but we look very similar to apes.
So we have this, we're, we're animals.
We're straight up animals.
hotep jesus
That don't.
ian crossland
And we have this wildness to us, especially when we get hungry and desperate.
So I'm just accepting that, trying to figure things out.
Like, yeah, a guy will pee on you if he has to, and he's angry at you.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I have no choice, I'm sorry!
hotep jesus
I mean, when you starve people, yeah, right?
But even if you go based upon, you know, creation theory, like God put us in the Garden of Eden and, you know, we had food.
So, the herbs is here for us.
You know, we don't even eat from the earth, we eat synthetic foods.
unidentified
I think that story was written by like people regardless, regardless of what you think of the story, regardless of what you think of the story.
hotep jesus
I don't believe in the story either, but my point is why aren't we living off plants?
tim pool
I mean, we got a bunch of vegan pizzas downstairs.
ian crossland
I went vegan for about nine months last year.
hotep jesus
I did about four years vegan.
tim pool
I don't think people are more similar to plants than animals.
hotep jesus
That's fine.
That's cool.
My point is this.
We gotta stop saying we're animals because of the dogma that comes with that.
It removes all responsibility of higher consciousness.
So we just act like monkeys.
We're not monkeys.
If we were monkeys, why are the monkeys still here?
lydia smith
You're not a religious person though.
Where are you coming from?
hotep jesus
You said what?
lydia smith
You're not a religious person.
So where are you coming from?
hotep jesus
I'm not a religious person, so where am I coming from?
lydia smith
You're talking about how people are, they're not evolved from monkeys.
There's something better, something different.
To me, that sounds a lot like Christianity, which is where I was raised.
hotep jesus
Is this the way you were raised?
I hold a lot of different theories, right?
So I hold the theory that we're actually an ancient race that was created using monkey DNA.
tim pool
Anunnaki.
ian crossland
Kamiras.
tim pool
You know the Anunnaki?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So I'll hold that theory.
I'll hold the creation theory.
The evolution thing kind of sidesteps me.
That doesn't really hold truth with me.
You know?
I'm not going to say that.
But yeah, I don't believe we are humans.
I mean, I don't believe we are animals.
I believe that we are in many ways guardians.
And you said religious, right?
So I don't practice, you know, a specific religion.
I borrow from all of them, but I'm very religious.
Like, I religiously pray before I eat.
I religiously pray, you know, throughout the day.
You know, Muslims pray five times a day.
I try to pray like ten, you know, or when I'm conscious of it or, you know, even in a moment or if, for example, like when Kanye was on Joe Rogan, he had took a minute to pray.
When I see things happen in the media, I take a moment to pray.
So I'm very religious in that sense.
I don't believe in the Abrahamic religions because I know all of that stuff comes from the Nile Valley civilization.
But I still appreciate the stories.
I appreciate the Buddha theory.
I don't jive with Buddhism because I feel like we shouldn't sidestep the human body.
The human body is very important.
But I think there's a lot of spirituality missing from these religions.
tim pool
From people?
hotep jesus
From the translations of the books, you know, like the things that Jesus was pulling off.
He wasn't pulling it off because he was special.
He was pulling it off because he learned it.
He studied for 12 years.
ian crossland
I heard that he went to India and studied Reiki and Hinduism.
Came back with that healing energy.
You should do Reiki, man.
hotep jesus
Reiki is a fix.
ian crossland
You got an electromagnetic field surrounding your body.
You can divert and maneuver the energy.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's called aura.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
You move your aura.
You can like put it into people and withdraw it from them.
Intermingle it with other auras.
Including the Earth's aura.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I mean, again, I just don't deal with all these like different sects and titles, you know, like, oh, this is Reiki and this is that.
The bottom line is everything is energy.
Right?
And we have this energetic field around us.
But the Earth is basically dominated by two forces.
Electricity and magnetism.
Electromagnetism.
One operates in space, one operates in matter.
Right?
So, the magnetism of things, there's a lot to be said about that.
Um, for example, like when we get into Emoto Masaru and he talks about what sound can do to water and, and sound technology, so on and so forth.
So then you start talking and saying things and I'm just like, don't say that.
Don't bring that thing into existence.
Don't say that we're animals.
Don't say, you know, that we're violent, say something positive.
And, and, and, you know, we create this reality through our words, right?
tim pool
So we got to start saying stuff like Donald Trump will find a way to win.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm kidding by the way.
hotep jesus
Absolutely don't.
ian crossland
You're right about positive manifestation because people's minds don't understand double negative.
So if you say don't get angry, you're putting the word angry out there.
hotep jesus
Correct.
ian crossland
And they're going to hear angry, angry, angry.
lydia smith
It sounds like what Ian says.
ian crossland
But also I've just accepted a sense of realism about things.
I don't know.
Maybe I can go back into the positive manifestation path.
I did it for like six years.
It kind of, I got really like alienated from people.
hotep jesus
Right.
ian crossland
Because it's, it was harder to relate.
So, you know.
hotep jesus
I just think there's a lot to be done as far as telepathy is concerned.
A lot to be done as far as intuition is concerned.
Do you believe, do you believe telepathy is possible?
Just say no.
tim pool
No, I wouldn't say no.
hotep jesus
Say no, Tempo.
tim pool
I need I need evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
hotep jesus
Right.
You need evidence.
tim pool
So I'm open to it.
hotep jesus
So that that is that is logical.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I said the same thing.
I need evidence.
So I started doing it and I gave myself the evidence.
tim pool
Or we get Neuralink, Elon Musk comes in, plugs everybody in and we can all talk through our brains.
hotep jesus
No, that's a terrible idea.
lydia smith
Right.
So that's what I said.
hotep jesus
Terrible idea.
You know, so I did this experiment with my kids, right?
And we pull out three UNO cards and they got numbers on them and they got colors on them.
And what we do is a telepathy game.
And what I found is that the, you know, I have one son who looks like his mother, then the other two are brown and they all look like me.
So it's three of us versus the other two.
When we checked it out, The three Browns, against the light skins, they communicated very well between the mother.
They were able to guess.
One time my daughter and her little brother were doing it and she said, I heard it.
She heard him scream in her mind telepathically.
Now you're going to tell her there's no evidence when she heard the voice?
tim pool
That's her.
ian crossland
I think it's real personally.
I've experienced stuff like that.
tim pool
I'll tell you a story.
I met, I knew this guy who's a religious.
He's a Christian.
And, uh, I asked him, you know, how did you become Christian?
And I've heard the story before too from other people, but he said that he used to be just like this, like gutter punk drug addict.
He would go in a party.
One day he was coming down from doing a bunch of drugs and partying all night.
Woke up in the morning in the middle of the woods with his friends.
And he went out to go take a leak when all of a sudden he heard this voice come from within him.
Telling him, asking him, what are you doing with your life?
Why are you doing this?
You gotta do something else.
I would say it was his intuition.
We all have a voice inside our head that told us not to do something.
like a panic attack, was like stressed, like what's happening?
And the voice basically told him, knock it off, stop.
And then from then, you know, he tried to figure out what that voice was.
And he believes that it was either, you know, guardian angel of some sort or God.
hotep jesus
I don't I don't I would say it was his intuition.
Maybe we all have a voice inside our head that told us not to do something.
We did it anyway.
We're like, I should listen.
But the point was that never happened to you, Temple.
Where something told you not to do something and you did it anyway?
unidentified
Oh, totally.
Yeah, absolutely.
hotep jesus
So what was that voice, Temple?
tim pool
What, that inner monologue?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
That's me.
unidentified
That's you.
hotep jesus
What part of you?
How did it know the future, but you didn't listen?
Because it was you said not to, and then another you did it anyway.
So which one is you, Tim?
tim pool
They're both.
hotep jesus
They're both you.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
So which one is the better one?
tim pool
Well, one of them said we should... Which one has higher intelligence?
hotep jesus
Temple?
The one that was able to predict the future?
Or the one that was wrong and went and did that thing anyway?
tim pool
Well, I don't think it was... I don't think it's two different entities.
I think it's just me.
And the first thing I thought was, I shouldn't do this.
And I'll do it anyway.
And then, oops.
hotep jesus
See, this is the problem that religious people have with people like you, right?
You guys don't know how to submit to a higher power.
You think all the power lies within you and that's where the power starts to corrupt and we end up pissing on people's heads.
tim pool
I don't want to piss on anybody's head.
ian crossland
We were just talking about the elf, the extremely low frequency vibration in the Schumann resonance in the Earth's magnetosphere.
I believe it's in the magnetosphere.
It's a resonating, you know, calculable vibration that changes it.
And sometimes you get these spikes in the Schumann resonance when consciousness, human consciousness is like working in coercion when people are thinking about something.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
ian crossland
And sometimes I think that those those intuitive thoughts that come are actually coming from the Earth's.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Magnetos, like it's a connected sphere.
hotep jesus
Yes, we're all connected.
We are all one.
I am you, you are mine.
tim pool
It's super chat time.
lydia smith
It is.
Past super chat time.
tim pool
It's well past super chat time.
ian crossland
Because of us all being one.
tim pool
Yeah, we went late on this one.
Oh, definitely, dude.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I've been saving this one super chat I saw, just so we're going to get started.
Scott Harris says, I never donate to anything because I'm broke and I'm a broke bike messenger.
But this episode is amazing.
Hotep isn't just woke, he's up and out of bed.
lydia smith
That's right.
I like that.
tim pool
Yeah, that's good.
unidentified
Let's go.
lydia smith
I'm out of bed.
tim pool
Alright, let's see what we got.
Let's see.
A lot of people just saying, uh, cheering for you.
A lot of superchats.
unidentified
Are they?
lydia smith
That's great.
unidentified
Thank you, man.
tim pool
Love my Hotep brothers.
hotep jesus
I thought they were gonna be cussing me out.
lydia smith
Yes, Hotep the dude.
Nah, man.
tim pool
I mean, probably some people.
hotep jesus
I'm sure somebody's cussing me out.
tim pool
No, I think people dig it.
Space Wolf says, What most don't seem to realize about civil conflict is that the target will not be just people, but infrastructure, industry, and resources of our economy.
A dozen men cause 9-11.
How many does it take to poison a water supply, etc.?
That's crazy.
That's crazy to think about.
Yeah.
Mikhail says, you should take a look at eviction moratoriums in Democrat states.
I don't know if you know about them, but it's insane.
By the way, I love the show.
Keep up the good work.
lydia smith
Oh, thank you.
tim pool
Will do.
hotep jesus
Dropping gems.
tim pool
Let's see.
We got it.
We got way too many superchats.
hotep jesus
Do you meditate?
tim pool
Sort of.
unidentified
Sort of.
tim pool
Yeah, sort of.
hotep jesus
You have to tap into the better tent pool.
unidentified
Oh yeah?
hotep jesus
There's a better tent pool in there.
You have to tap into it.
lydia smith
Oh, that's a pretty good one.
I like it.
tim pool
All right, we got super chat.
Lauren says, after suffrage, mediocre lib women needed a cause and used black trauma as the vector.
ADOS are the only absolutely wronged group in America.
The Japanese internment being next.
Let white, YT women, is that white women?
Will always be Miss Millie's to me, the color purple.
F BIPOC YT made me edit.
Interesting.
hotep jesus
I love white women.
ian crossland
Yeah?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
tim pool
I like people.
hotep jesus
I like, I like, I like, I love how white women embrace their femininity.
It's different.
I love how black women, I said, I tweeted the other day, I love how white women embrace their femininity.
And a lot of people took it as disrespect to black women.
But I love the way black women embrace their femininity.
It's different.
It's just completely different.
I enjoy the way these different cultures embrace their femininity.
And for someone who hated white people for so long, I'm just now like trying to learn and love them.
And I love, but white women, you know, when we go look at how they used to be trafficked, you know, back in the days of Tammany Hall in New York, white women didn't have it too easy in America either.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
A lot of, a lot of people love you, man.
ian crossland
We're like, um, different cultures, but not different races, the human race.
And then we just have different skin colors, but we're just different cultures.
hotep jesus
Sometimes you ever, you ever noticed that the only race problem is between white and black people.
lydia smith
That's kind of weird.
ian crossland
Pretty much, it's weird.
tim pool
I don't think it's the only thing.
It's the main one.
Yeah, it's the most highlighted.
ian crossland
It's the unknown.
People get afraid of what they're not familiar with.
lydia smith
It can be used.
ian crossland
Well, not always they don't, but sometimes.
tim pool
We got the super chat here.
Leor says, Wow, wow, wow, Tim, I've never been more envious of you.
I am more envious now than when you had on the legendary Alex Jones.
Hotep, Jesus, I just found out about you and this short time you have gained a fan.
ian crossland
Yes!
lydia smith
Very cool, yeah!
hotep jesus
We win!
lydia smith
Love it!
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
DipDopDupity says, please invite ShoeOnHead or Chris Raygun to come on the show.
Uh... I... Yes.
lydia smith
Yeah, we'll invite anyone, right?
tim pool
Well, I'll just say, Shu's been invited, but she was unable.
Chris Ragon, I'll invite 100%.
lydia smith
He has really bad anxiety.
I do remember that.
tim pool
Oh, really?
Yeah, I wish he would, but... But Shu's got an open invite.
hotep jesus
Remind me to tell you the cure for depression before we leave.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
The cure?
What is it?
lydia smith
I gotta know.
hotep jesus
Creativity.
Health.
lydia smith
I think it's right here.
tim pool
Oh, Koli and Noir says, great discussion.
lydia smith
Oh, snap!
unidentified
Vim Hof's Dragon Breath?
ian crossland
Does that cure depression?
lydia smith
No, I've not heard this.
hotep jesus
Wim Hof is the dude that runs around in the Arctic cold with his bare feet.
lydia smith
Wim Hof, yes.
Yes, I have heard of him.
tim pool
Richard Dibble says, Hey Tim, my first time seeing you was on Joe Rogan's show where you absolutely dismantled Jack Dorsey and I've been hooked listening to you since.
I've never donated to anyone within your line of work before, but I truly appreciate what you do.
Cheers to my favorite milquetoast fence sitter.
lydia smith
Hey, appreciate it, man.
hotep jesus
Tim's a hero.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I'm just someone who complains about his feelings on the internet.
ian crossland
You're a hero.
hotep jesus
You're my hero.
lydia smith
Aw, that's nice.
unidentified
Why's that?
tim pool
Well, thanks for the beanie, man.
lydia smith
Yeah, he brought you a beanie.
hotep jesus
I mean, who else would invite me to their home to record?
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know.
tim pool
I follow you on Twitter.
unidentified
Nobody.
tim pool
It's like I was saying earlier on, I'm like, most of the people we have on, it's usually like, oh, I know that guy from Twitter and he says smart stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Okay.
lydia smith
We'll talk to him.
hotep jesus
You're my hero, man, because nobody else is going to give me a big platform to speak to people.
tim pool
You went on Rogan.
hotep jesus
He's my hero too.
tim pool
I accept that.
Thank you for the compliment.
hotep jesus
It's like you and Rogan are my heroes.
unidentified
Wow.
hotep jesus
I need murals of you two now in my home.
It's going to be like Tupac, Malcolm X, Tim Pool, and Joe Rogan.
tim pool
I mean, there's a lot we've disagreed on, you know?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
And that's beautiful.
tim pool
I think so.
I agree.
Absolutely.
I agree with that.
We're supposed to disagree.
We're not supposed to completely agree all the time.
lydia smith
It's boring.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
That would suck.
lydia smith
Stale.
hotep jesus
I would suck because you balance me out.
You keep me grounded and I elevate you.
tim pool
All right.
I'm going to read this one.
lydia smith
Do it.
tim pool
I'm just going to.
lydia smith
Is it hard?
tim pool
But I'm not going to say who it's from because someone said I would pee on Ian.
hotep jesus
No, you're lying.
unidentified
Come on.
Stop it.
don't run into that person. What have I manifested?
What have you seen today?
lydia smith
You're right about saying these things, Ian.
tim pool
Joseph Aaron says, have y'all seen Shelby Steele's new movie, Who Killed Michael Brown?
What are your thoughts, if you have?
hotep jesus
I haven't seen it.
tim pool
No?
Have you heard of it at all?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Nah, me neither.
hotep jesus
I'm in a bubble.
I'm in a tech bubble.
lydia smith
Get out, man.
hotep jesus
I just work on my tech companies.
unidentified
Bitcoin.
ian crossland
Yeah, you got a Bitcoin company.
hotep jesus
Yeah, coinbitzapp.com.
lydia smith
Super cool.
hotep jesus
Super cool.
We bring boomers to Bitcoin.
lydia smith
Cool.
That's hot.
hotep jesus
That's a good market.
ian crossland
It's a great market.
tim pool
You think Bitcoin is going to hit 300 and something K?
No.
hotep jesus
I mean, at some point, not this year.
I mean, you might have all time highs of 30 K max, but 300 K is just absurd.
tim pool
They said JP Morgan said by like the end of 2021, 300 K.
300 K. Yeah.
hotep jesus
They're trying to get people got.
tim pool
And then they're going to sell.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
You're going to see another tank after this.
tim pool
They're gonna rally it up, sell it, then it collapses, and they're gonna buy it back.
hotep jesus
Yeah, the best thing to do is dollar cost average.
If you dollar cost average, you would've made a boatload.
You know, when I said it on CoinBitsApp.com, and I said it, I forget it, it'll just take, you know, let's say 100 bucks a week out of my account, or 50 bucks, or 10 bucks, whatever your budget is, it'll just take it out of your account and buy Bitcoin at whatever price it is that week.
tim pool
You wanna hear a funny story?
What's that?
2011, I'm sitting in my friend's hackerspace, I'm on my computer, and I come across Bitcoin.
It was at 75 cents per Bitcoin.
I had five grand, chillin', cause I had saved up for my job, and I was like, I want, man, this is nine years ago, so I'm in my, I'm like 24, 25, and I'm thinking like, I gotta do what rich people do, like I gotta invest or something, right?
So I look at my buddy, and I was like, hey, did you see this Bitcoin thing?
I was like, it's 75 cents, I could get like 6,000 something right now, and he goes, dude, don't do it, man.
It's gonna be a scam, you're gonna buy it up, and then it's gonna be just like worth nothing.
And I was like, Yeah.
And then I didn't buy it.
ian crossland
He might have been right.
tim pool
I would have had 6,000 something.
I know.
ian crossland
He might have been a different dimension.
tim pool
It's not even that.
It's my buddy saying, dude, don't spend your savings on some random thing.
hotep jesus
The only question that remains is did you pee on his head?
tim pool
No!
ian crossland
Did you?
tim pool
No, and that's the worst part of it!
ian crossland
Did you kill him on his arm?
On his hand?
lydia smith
I don't want this out there, guys.
unidentified
Stop it.
I don't like it.
hotep jesus
She said, stop it.
unidentified
Stop it.
tim pool
Alright, we got some more sweet chats.
We got some more sweet chats.
Will Charlton says, No.
US Marine here.
I actually love America.
Mainly because of the Constitution, which I swore an oath to protect.
Love you, Tim, Lydia, Ian, and Hotep.
hotep jesus
Well, I'm not going to respond.
All I'm going to say is thank you for serving our country, sir.
But I believe that people who are in the military have that mindset.
unidentified
That's, that's, that's part of the, yeah, it's part of your job.
hotep jesus
You got to believe in the country.
tim pool
Alan Brady says, loving the stream so far.
Hey, Chet, I'm polling you on if you want to see Tim Pool bring on Chris Chappell from China Uncensored.
I do.
Also, if you don't recognize the name or the channel, go discover it.
It's very good.
I mean, I'd be down.
There's a bunch of YouTubers who cover China that I really would love to have on.
But it's getting crazy because we're doing all the lockdowns now.
hotep jesus
Who's doing the lockdowns?
tim pool
All these states on the East Coast.
New Jersey, New York.
And these countries, too.
So it's getting harder and harder.
I thought things were going to ease up because I want to get Sargon and Count Dankula out here, but I can't because of the lockdowns.
hotep jesus
That would be epic.
tim pool
Those guys are great.
lydia smith
Super fun.
hotep jesus
Fun, fun guys.
lydia smith
Big thinkers.
unidentified
I like them.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Josh Cruz says, best Tim Cass by far.
People with different opinions sitting down and having a genuine conversation and listening to each other's point of view and not getting angry when someone disagrees.
America could accomplish anything if all people were like this.
Yeah.
I think so too, because like, even when you say something I don't necessarily agree with, we all have a laugh while talking, joke about it and figure it out.
Yeah, man.
hotep jesus
I think the minds in this room should be the government of the United States of America.
tim pool
Just us?
hotep jesus
Just us four.
tim pool
We, yeah.
Yeah.
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
The council, the council of Timcast IRL featuring Hotep Jesus.
Yes.
unidentified
Yep.
hotep jesus
I just want to control the army.
tim pool
I'll, uh, I'll take, um, finance, I guess.
What do you want?
What do you want Ian?
ian crossland
I'll be the president.
tim pool
You'll be the president.
ian crossland
I'll do whatever you guys need.
I'll be secretary of state.
tim pool
No, he's, he said the military, right?
ian crossland
Secretary of defense.
hotep jesus
I guess that does make me the president.
ian crossland
I'll be the secretary of state.
tim pool
I'll be the Supreme court.
hotep jesus
She says she's gonna control the women.
ian crossland
I'll control the women.
lydia smith
That's right.
I'm in charge.
I'm Aunt Lydia.
You're welcome.
hotep jesus
I'll control the women.
lydia smith
That's right.
Good luck, guys.
tim pool
Feminists are gonna lose it.
Someone's got a criticism.
They say, violence?
That's white people?
From a guy who said every kid should have a gun and a diaper when they're born.
hotep jesus
Ooh, spicy.
lydia smith
That was someone who remembered that.
I like that.
hotep jesus
He's absolutely right though, right?
Like, here I am saying that we're not naturally violent, but on the other hand, I'm like, yo.
tim pool
Have a gun.
hotep jesus
Everybody should have a gun from the diaper, right?
So, can I explain myself?
Yeah, of course.
I don't want somebody else having a monopoly on violence, but it's not about having a gun because I want to shoot somebody.
It's about having a gun because I don't want to get shot.
I'm a believer in peace.
And what do you call a really big gun?
You call it a peacekeeper.
lydia smith
That's right.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
It's called a peacekeeper.
When you talk about going to war, they call it peacekeeping.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
Yeah, but they're trying to... I know the Orwell thing.
hotep jesus
I'm being facetious, but my point is, there's nuance to this conversation.
We are at a certain level of consciousness.
And at the level of consciousness, guns are a thing.
And at the current state of consciousness, it's not fair to have a monopoly on guns.
But that's not to say that our original purpose or we were, you know, inherently violent.
I don't agree with.
Those are two separate things.
I think that's just the state of our consciousness.
tim pool
We got another super chat for you, though.
People always talk about the Tootsies.
Yeah, so I didn't bring them up for a reason.
Hotep you need to go read about the Tutsi massacre in Africa literally turned on their neighbors and massacred
them massacred them humans are dark Period Jocko had a podcast on it. It's brutal people always
unidentified
talk about the Tootsies I mean what happens when you destabilize an entire
hotep jesus
continent?
lydia smith
Exactly.
unidentified
It's white people.
lydia smith
That's what it is, right?
hotep jesus
It's white people fault!
lydia smith
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
tim pool
All right, we got a super chat.
Rarity says, hi Tim, hi Lydia, hi Hotep, y'all are cool AF.
Ian is just regular cool.
Also, hate to get off topic, what kind of deck did you run when you played Magic?
I got a bunch of decks right now, mostly Commander.
So, I don't know.
hotep jesus
What, into my tarot cards?
tim pool
It's a strategy game.
hotep jesus
Oh, like, uh, Dungeon and Dragons?
tim pool
I mean, kind of.
It's like, but it's, uh, you have a deck of cards, you draw them, and the cards do things.
So it's... Superpowers?
It's like chess and poker combined.
That's the way to explain it.
hotep jesus
Interesting.
tim pool
So it's like... It's really fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus
You throw fireballs, or...
tim pool
Yeah, sort of.
ian crossland
Fireball's a red spell that you can cast.
There's red, white, black, green, and blue magic.
And they all kind of, like, red, it's fire, chaos, and blue.
hotep jesus
Who's GM?
tim pool
There's none.
hotep jesus
No GM, they play you off the cards.
tim pool
It's like chess.
hotep jesus
Ooh, that's interesting.
tim pool
So it's like chess and poker combined.
So you're, you're playing turn base back and forth, but instead of just a row of pieces, you've got a deck of six, 60 or a hundred cards.
hotep jesus
Like Pokemon cards.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I like that.
It sounds like fun.
tim pool
It is fun.
It is fun.
hotep jesus
I'm into white boy shit like that.
tim pool
But a lot of people, a lot of people need to understand that when it comes to magic, most people who play it aren't playing it because it's, it's, it's themed like wizards and stuff.
hotep jesus
Right.
tim pool
They're playing it because it's like chess.
hotep jesus
Okay.
tim pool
It doesn't matter that the card you have is like warrior knight or whatever.
It's just like the card has this value.
The card does this thing.
And then you calculate and strategize against your opponent.
hotep jesus
Okay.
Don't describe it as chess.
I play chess.
It's nothing like chess.
tim pool
No, it is.
Well, okay.
It's in the sense of a turn-based strategy game, but with cards.
hotep jesus
Okay.
But the cards are random.
tim pool
Not necessarily.
You build your deck.
hotep jesus
But you don't get the same deck every time.
In chess, you get the same pieces every time.
tim pool
Right.
That's why it's like poker as well.
But with 60 cards, you've got 20 which are resource cards, then you have 40, and then you have four of each for the most part.
So it's typically predictable.
hotep jesus
I gotcha.
tim pool
But there's a lot of pro magic players who are also pro poker players.
There was an old joke back when I was younger playing magic.
They said, the reason why that is, in poker, you're trying to figure out what your opponent has out of 52 cards.
In magic, you're trying to figure out what your opponent has out of 13,000.
ian crossland
And you can also calculate the odds of what you're going to draw if you're counting cards.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, say it's like chess 960, because chess 960 is random.
tim pool
960 is cool.
I never played it though, but I read about it.
Bobby Fisher wanted to make things, you know, spice it up, right?
Bub Savvy says, the range of human morality is not exclusive to any one race.
You have to empower the individual before you can expect anything from the collective.
hotep jesus
He is absolutely correct.
So let me clarify earlier.
I said that's white people stuff.
And the reason why I said that is because it's mostly white books that say that, like white authors.
Usually in the HOTEP community we don't write that into existence or you'll hear white people say it and that's why I say that's white people-ish.
Because I only hear it from, I mean I'm going to hear it from black people of course because they've been indoctrinated by the white liberal.
But that's literally some white liberal Haunton Mifflin McGraw-Hill-taught stuff right there.
tim pool
Haunton Mifflin?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I remember those books, man.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, the conquistadors wrote a lot of... the winner writes the history, basically, and the conquerors came and wrote a bunch of history.
tim pool
What about Art of War?
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Tribal warfare.
hotep jesus
What about it?
tim pool
I mean, there's a lot of stuff about violence and war.
hotep jesus
It comes from... What's the best way to win the war, according to Sun Tzu?
tim pool
The best way?
ian crossland
You win it before you start it?
tim pool
Win the war before going to war.
ian crossland
But if you run out of water, that's when, I think it all comes from running out of a water supply and then the tribe next door would run out of water and then they'd come over and take your water and that's kind of tribal warfare.
tim pool
Man, Japan was crazy.
I was watching, I watched a YouTube video about like the history of Japan and how it became like unified.
unidentified
Brutal.
tim pool
Just like constant warring.
ian crossland
The Edo period.
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
The 1400s with like Tokugawa and Oda Nobunaga.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Crazy stuff.
ian crossland
Vicious.
tim pool
Brutal stuff.
You want to hear a funny story?
hotep jesus
Yeah!
tim pool
So I went to South Korea, I went to Seoul.
I went to this museum where they were explaining their great general.
They were highlighting this great general.
And I was like, oh, that's really cool.
I want to learn about Korean history and stuff.
And so they have this one display where it shows this amazing fleet of Korean vessels going up against the Japanese.
And he was victorious and he won.
Then you go to like the next slide and it was like in the next great battle he won but now he's got way less ships and the Japanese have like the same amount and I was like wait a minute out of like so all of these slides it eventually ends with like his final great battle it's like two ships left and the Japanese love the same and I was like so what they did was out of a hundred battles where he won three of them they highlighted those as the great victories of their general when he was getting crushed by the Japanese fleets.
I thought that was funny.
They gotta, they gotta, you know, they gotta be proud about something, right?
hotep jesus
The best, the best place to, um, to understand the world is within yourself.
lydia smith
Agreed.
tim pool
All right, Tom Mee says, I appreciate your honesty, TY.
Thank you.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Chuck says, Tim, why don't you have a law enforcement officer on?
I'd love to.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll get one on.
Sparky the Pyro says, still here advocating for Trump buying CNN, then sitting back and watching the media world implode.
Also, keep up the good work fighting against the lies and shining floodlights and the garbage.
hotep jesus
Trump TV coming soon.
tim pool
Do you think so?
I don't know if I believe it.
hotep jesus
I believe it.
unidentified
Yeah?
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's a very smart move.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Let's speak that into existence.
hotep jesus
Trump TV.
Yes!
tim pool
Trump TV.
ian crossland
It flows.
tim pool
I think you should buy CNN.
ian crossland
They wouldn't let them do it.
tim pool
They wouldn't let them do it.
hotep jesus
Nah, they wouldn't put it up for sale.
It's too much power.
tim pool
Well, there's no, I mean, that's a rumor going around that AT&T is $150 billion in debt and CNN is a money pit.
Now that, I'll put it this way, now that they think Trump's on the way out and maybe he is, it seems most very likely.
I'm waiting for the electoral college, but we'll see.
But their golden goose is going to be gone.
What are they going to do?
hotep jesus
What are they going to do about Trump?
Everybody's going to go back to talking about whatever they're talking about before politics became pop culture.
tim pool
I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Vox, Ezra Klein, and Matthew Iglesias have quit.
lydia smith
Yeah, they've gone to different outlets.
tim pool
The only founder left is Melissa Bell.
Other two have left.
Matthew Iglesias went independent, Ezra Klein went to the New York Times.
Right after the election, they knew.
They were like, if Trump loses, our companies won't exist.
BuzzFeed just bought Huffington Post.
hotep jesus
Grifter season is over.
lydia smith
I know, right?
unidentified
Shout out to Uncle Hotel.
hotep jesus
Grifting season.
That's exactly what we were talking about, man.
tim pool
Grifting season.
hotep jesus
People understand, you know, when it's a good season to grift and when it's not.
tim pool
These people, man.
I'm going to keep doing my thing.
I'm going to keep hanging out with people.
We're going to talk about stuff.
hotep jesus
You're good.
tim pool
I'm looking forward to politics going away, dude.
hotep jesus
Your grift is good.
My grift is good.
lydia smith
We're good. Grift is, we're losing it very loosely.
How are we defining grift here?
hotep jesus
We're using it very loosely.
There's two types of grift according to me.
There's one that gives back and there's one that doesn't.
So you can grift, but you're not a grifter.
Now a grifter doesn't give back, they just take from the culture.
Raising money for all these little hashtags and you steal and whatever, whatever.
That's a grifter.
Now, when we grift, it's like, we know we have to talk about- Grind.
unidentified
We grind.
hotep jesus
But we know we have to talk about some things that we probably wouldn't talk about in our personal lives.
unidentified
No, I talk about all this stuff.
hotep jesus
There's a lot of topics that come across my desk that I just wouldn't talk about in my personal life.
And I just cover them because people go, Ho-Tep Jesus, what do you think about this?
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And so you have to cover it.
It's my duty to cover it.
tim pool
That's not grifting.
You know, grifting is like when you lie about someone to generate some kind of clicks.
You know what I mean?
hotep jesus
Right.
That's what I said.
It's nuanced to this, right?
We're very playful with it.
But for the media, that season is over.
tim pool
I'm looking forward to Biden presidency.
I'm looking forward to the lockdowns being over and for politics to be outside of this so I can go back to talking about cultural issues and movies.
Yeah, I want to watch some movies.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I don't know.
I know that.
tim pool
You know what I did?
I remember this like a year and a half ago.
I had a segment.
It was about a guy was outside of a bar and two women were fighting and then the woman
hits the guy.
The guy hits her back and then everyone starts attacking the guy and the guy runs off and
gets arrested later on.
That was the segment.
I was like, man, this is crazy.
Why is something like this happening?
I have a video that's got like almost 2 million views.
It's about why men aren't helping women and children.
Just a cultural issue thing.
And then all of a sudden, everything just became completely front page dominated by Donald Trump.
And so now it's all politics all the time.
That's the pop culture.
Like you said, politics is pop culture.
ian crossland
I love talking about culture like we've been doing.
It's so much more like we're getting so much more out of it than talking about Trump and Biden, I feel like.
hotep jesus
I want to talk about levitating.
tim pool
Let's do levitating.
lydia smith
You and Ian would get along very well.
tim pool
Let me read this super chat real quick.
Your favorite sociologist says, intertribal war existed since the beginning of us.
It is why we moved from the area of our development.
Populations grew and conflicts arose.
Arab raids happened centuries before whites arrived.
Stop the oversimplification.
It helps nobody.
hotep jesus
The Arab conquering of Africa is what led to the destabilization.
In fact, the Europeans couldn't conquer until they brought Christianity.
At first it was dominated by the Islamic caliphate.
He's actually very correct in that.
But I group all y'all together as an ignorant hotel.
unidentified
We got one more super chat.
tim pool
I like it.
unidentified
Come on, man.
tim pool
We got a super chat I got to read.
Tom Mee says Biden will provide enough material.
I don't know.
Biden's gonna be hiding.
Hiding Biden's gonna be in the basement.
He's not gonna say anything.
hotep jesus
Material for who?
tim pool
For people to talk about, I guess.
hotep jesus
I mean, sure, that's what the right's gonna do.
They're gonna grift off of Biden, just complain about him like people complained about Trump for four years.
Oh, the left is gonna do it, too.
tim pool
They're already starting.
I'm seeing it.
hotep jesus
It's great.
tim pool
I'm loving it.
Yeah, so now I'm seeing these progressives who used to post on Facebook all day that Trump is bad, now all of a sudden going, Joe Biden's appointing lobbyists to his transition team!
hotep jesus
What's happening?
tim pool
And I'm like... Oh yeah, I can see that.
Here it comes!
And you know what?
Fine.
You know what I said to them?
I was like, so they just mean you're gonna start watching my content again?
Because now like, now conservatives and progressives are gonna be mad at Biden.
I'm gonna be talking about the same stuff.
Now they're gonna come around?
hotep jesus
They deserve that.
They deserve to watch what they voted for.
Flounder.
That's what you vote for.
tim pool
Joe Biden's gonna walk up, come on man, we gotta put more troops in Syria.
hotep jesus
Yep, he's already saying that.
tim pool
We're gonna be like, oh great, yeah I know.
So I'm gonna be like, here we go, and then the progressives are gonna come around and be like,
hey we're mad again.
Remember when Cenk Uygur, the young Turk, said Joe Biden had dementia in March?
Yeah, it was politically convenient because he wanted to support Bernie.
Then when it went to Biden, he was all for Biden.
Now it's like, look, Joe Biden gets inaugurated, the progressives are gonna come around in two seconds.
They're gonna be like, Biden's terrible!
And I'm gonna be like, I agree, because I've been saying that for quite some time.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I'm just gonna be building AI and Bitcoin apps.
tim pool
That's a good thing to do, man.
You know what we're gonna do?
We're starting this vlog.
We're gonna be skating.
I think we got someone who might come in to do the vlog.
And we're just going to skate, hang out, play music, have fun.
And I want to make sure that we can kind of bring back some levity, you know, some chill, some music, some comedy.
hotep jesus
Look at the last four years.
The conservatives spent the entire time running behind whatever the left was complaining about.
tim pool
Yup.
They still do.
hotep jesus
Like the other day they were talking about Harry Styles in a dress.
Yeah, I didn't care.
lydia smith
You're behind.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I'm like, why would I even talk about that?
tim pool
Right, dude.
hotep jesus
If that's what Vogue and him want to do, then great, you know?
Exactly.
But, you know, the conservatives, they, you know, some of the prominent ones, they took that and trended and did their thing.
And I'm like, you know, that works for you.
But for what conservatives are trying to get to when we say these celebrities are not important, we have to completely remove them from the consciousness.
lydia smith
They're a distraction.
hotep jesus
Yeah, we have to completely remove those distractions and keep that stuff outside of our bubble.
And talk about the things we want to talk about.
If the nuclear family is under attack, then we talk about how mom can love children better.
While they're talking about Harry Styles in a dress, we're over here dressing real life stuff or skating or tech.
And let's just have these conversations and let other people talk about what they want to talk about.
I'm not talking about Harry Styles in a dress.
Good for him.
If he's happy, I'm happy for him.
tim pool
Dude, exactly.
I see that stuff and I'm like, I don't think anything of it at all.
I saw that whole fiasco, the trend with like Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro, and I was just like, I don't know.
hotep jesus
I mean, she's not lying, right?
I agree with what she said.
What she said is very much truthful, right?
Like, I agree with the Marxist agenda.
There's no coincidence that there is both of those things happening at the same time.
But at the same time, it's like, Why are we talking about it?
tim pool
Yeah, seriously.
Especially right now with everything that's going on with the election.
hotep jesus
Yeah, instead of talking about him, let's talk about somebody who's macho.
ian crossland
Oh, just like Cuomo getting nominated for an Emmy.
tim pool
People can talk about whatever they want.
I talk about what I feel like talking about, you know, we didn't get to that.
Anyway, it's uh, it's 1030.
We went over quite a bit, but this is great.
ian crossland
What were you gonna say?
hotep jesus
Well, about what?
ian crossland
I just know you're going to say something.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I just want to say, I say a lot of inflammatory things to make people jump, right?
And I do that on purpose.
Like, for example, I said I grouped the Arabs and the white people together.
I don't mean that.
I'm joking.
tim pool
Right.
hotep jesus
I mean that in some ways, as in, first the Arabs came and invaded our shit, then y'all came along, right?
So I can group you together.
Don't look at me.
You know, manner.
But the one thing we have to understand is that the divide between black and white people has been used for so long.
The first divide was between white men and natives.
White men realized how crappy this country was and they started defecting and started going to live with the natives.
And then they were like, all right, for every white man you catch hanging with the natives, catch him and you scalp him.
That's what a scalper really started.
Yeah.
It was the government versus them.
People were deserting.
They were like, yo, I'm hungry here under these colonies.
And the natives, I'm eating good.
And Pocahontas is sexy.
So, you know, I'm over here with it.
tim pool
But again... That was what that story basically was, huh?
Was it John Smith?
hotep jesus
Yeah, John Smith, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Then the Seminoles in Florida.
I encourage people to go look at that history and how they pit native against native, native against white man.
tim pool
Do you know about the Little Apple of Death?
hotep jesus
What's that?
tim pool
So I went on a, what do they call it?
It's like you go down the canals in Florida.
They have these trees.
It's actually in Spanish.
I can't remember the name in Spanish.
It's like, you know, why do you say apple in Spanish?
hotep jesus
Manzana.
tim pool
Manzana?
Yeah, it's like, uh, La Manzanita de los Muertos or something like that.
There were these trees that have this toxin on them.
And what the natives down there would do was when they were capturing a prisoner or something, or a prisoner of war or a combatant, they would tie them to the tree and leave them there.
And then when it rains, the water would wash the toxins down.
It would sweep over people.
And it would just, you'd be trapped there with your skin burning from the toxins.
And there was like, people would eat them because they taste, they would be like, oh, and they'd eat it and then they'd...
Yeah, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If you touch the tree, you get, like, reactions.
Crazy.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So, you know, people have always used other people.
For example, when they imported Irish and Italians to undercut the labor market that was controlled by WASPs, then they used black people to cut the picket lines.
They've always used divide and conquer against us.
What we got to do is we got to stop feeding into that, man.
You know, my ancestors, a lot of them were into anti-whiteness.
I'm not into anti-whiteness.
I understand that the best thing to destroy this machine is white and black unity.
tim pool
That's why there's that meme of the two hands coming together, white and black, and it says the one thing they fear the most.
hotep jesus
That's the one thing they fear the most.
ian crossland
We're not actually white and black, too, which is something I think about a lot.
Like, I'm kind of pinkish, you're more brown than black.
Your skin, I'm not even talking about you, the skin tone is like, so like, the words aren't even accurate anymore.
hotep jesus
Correct.
Correct.
And white really means free and black means slave.
tim pool
I grew up on the south side of Chicago and I can tell you, you meet all kinds.
I know so many white crackheads that just fouled in the gutter and lived in the gutter.
It's really hard to be racist when you've got people of all different races and there's no pattern to be discerned between them based on their race or how they look.
hotep jesus
Think about history, right?
They said the majority of the population of black folk was living down South.
And they were legislating how you treated black people down South.
Well, where are all the black people up North?
If y'all so not racist, how come you don't have black people around?
And how come when people were freed and they came up North, they said they missed the South?
tim pool
And there were still problems with civil rights.
hotep jesus
When they came up North, not only did they have to not deal with civil rights, they had to deal with the Puritan philosophy and how snooty the people of the North were.
My point being, the thing that is happening right now, and I warn conservatives, do not allow Black Lives Matter to To make you think that that's how the consciousness of black people operate.
The consciousness of black people is very loving.
The consciousness of white people is very loving.
Or European and African.
Or Caucasian and African.
Whatever the terms we're going to use.
But that first seed that's planted is love.
It's not fear and it's not violence.
It's love.
And we have that within us.
And to your point, you're saying the government is the reason why people aren't killing each other.
And I think the reason why people aren't killing each other is because people are full of love.
And people don't have it in them to kill another person.
People don't have it in them to kill a deer or a cow to make their meal.
They couldn't physically do it.
It takes a lot to kill somebody, you know, so I think there's more good in humanity than bad.
And I just want to conservatives when you see Black Lives Matter, you can't say on one hand is George Soros and then be like, why do black people on?
First of all, black people are not on a Democrat plantation.
That's another thing I have to destroy right now.
My aunties might be on a Democrat.
You have to understand that the black.
You know, boomers and on are the primary voters.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
And they're going to be down ballot.
But as they die off, you see it with Trump's presidency.
More black voters came out and voted for him.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
hotep jesus
Because as that voting block dies off, you get more and more freethinkers and people that weren't.
You got to remember, the boomer class was born with TVs.
Everything that come out the TV they think is real.
unidentified
Right.
Right.
hotep jesus
They think everything comes out that thing is real.
So we got to understand it's not that the black community is not On the Democratic plantation, half of us, 50% of us don't vote, period, and don't believe in voting.
They don't mess with Biden or Trump.
And the people that are voting are a dying voting bloc.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, dude, thanks for coming.
This has been great.
hotep jesus
Oh, thank you for having me, my hero.
unidentified
For sure, dude.
tim pool
Anytime.
Yeah.
Was excited that we were able to get you to come down, especially considering COVID.
A lot of people don't want to come, but, dude, yeah, man, for sure.
hotep jesus
I'm a soldier.
tim pool
You want to mention your social media or your show or anything like that?
hotep jesus
You know, I'm black.
We got to give shout outs.
Yo, shout out to Uncle Hotep.
Shout out to Dodo, shout out to Michael Green, shout out to Lauren Litterly, shout out to Chad, shout out to Brody, Ken Thoreau, Raida, Sketch Therapy, Hotep Nation.
Oh, I got an AI company.
Shout out to Wazo AI.
tim pool
Right on.
hotep jesus
We do camera vision analytics.
ian crossland
What is it exactly?
hotep jesus
Basically, anything that comes in front of a camera, we can create data and analytics from it.
ian crossland
Really?
We were talking about getting a context, what would you call it, you put it in your browser, like a browser augmentation, where you could tell if a video comes from a larger video.
hotep jesus
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can definitely do something like that.
You'd probably need to API or something to the internet.
But yeah, it's definitely possible with machine learning.
tim pool
You got a podcast?
hotep jesus
Yes.
Hotep's been told you every Thursday, 8pm Eastern Time.
Me and Uncle Hotep.
It's hot.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
How about Twitter?
You got Twitter, right?
hotep jesus
Twitter at HotepJesus.
Right on, man.
Main website is hotepnation.com.
That's where we operate from.
Yeah, but thank you for having me, man.
tim pool
Oh, for sure, dude.
hotep jesus
You're the man, yo.
tim pool
Hey, I appreciate it, dude.
Thanks for coming.
And of course, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at TimCast.
You can check out my other YouTube channels at youtube.com slash TimCast, youtube.com slash TimCastNews.
The show is live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
And make sure you like, subscribe, hit the notification bell.
Yeah, really, smash that like button on your way out.
You can also follow this guy over here.
ian crossland
Yes, at Ian Crossland, amongst most and all of the social networks.
And share this thing, too.
Did you already say that?
Share this thing.
tim pool
Oh, no, I don't.
Share it with your homies.
Yeah, you can say that one.
ian crossland
Yeah, share this with your friends.
Tell them about it if you like it.
tim pool
And we're also on iTunes and all that stuff.
iTunes, Spotify, so you can, if you end up missing one of the live shows, just, we upload it almost immediately.
Actually, it's Lydia who does it, and you can follow her as well.
lydia smith
You can follow me on Twitter, at Sour Patchlets, L-Y-D-S.
tim pool
Right on.
ian crossland
Hey, real quick, we talked a lot about human politics and the politics of animals, but can we just give a shout-out to this plant?
lydia smith
Yes!
I was gonna go there next.
ian crossland
This beautiful creature.
hotep jesus
Amazing.
tim pool
Levitating and spinning endlessly.
hotep jesus
Amazing.
Everyone should have a plant.
tim pool
Look at it just spinning.
ian crossland
So weird.
lydia smith
It's so soothing.
tim pool
Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We'll be back.
What's today, Friday?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man, I got a weekend off.
Half days, technically.
So Monday will be 8 p.m.
Thanks for hanging out.
And we got some really, really important guests coming up next week.
It's going to be serious, pretending the election and stuff.
So stick around.
We will see you Monday at 8 p.m.
Thanks for hanging out.
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