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Oct. 27, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Early Voting VERY GOOD For Republican, ACB About To Be Confirmed, w/ FreedomToons
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ian crossland
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seamus coughlin
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tim pool
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lydia smith
04:27
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tim pool
early voting is actually looking really good for Republicans right now, and that's probably a meaningless
statement because no one knows what's going on.
There's probably been a massive party realignment, but in battleground states for the Senate, Republicans are currently leading.
Also, that doesn't mean a whole lot because, individually, there's some states doing really well, some states where the Democrats are actually doing really well, and then when it comes to the battleground states for the presidency, Republicans are actually doing really well.
Now, they are losing, But everyone expected a more massive turnout for Democrats, so it's actually really close.
No one knows what's gonna happen.
The pollsters are convinced.
And I just gotta say, if it turns out that Donald Trump is actually on track to win, and he actually does win, each and every one of these pollsters, you're fired.
There's no way they have any credibility left after two separate elections where they just flubbed everything.
But we got a bunch to talk about.
We got, like, rappers endorsing Trump, and then, like, swearing at Trump, and it's just kinda weird.
So, uh, and then there's some breaking news.
Apparently they found a suspicious package outside of the confirmation hearing of Amy Coney Barrett, which is basically happening right now.
They're gonna vote her in at some point during this show, so we'll definitely pull that up when it happens.
But, uh, we're hanging out, so, uh, of course, you know, Ian's chillin'.
ian crossland
What up, guys?
tim pool
He's got a little sloth coffee going on.
lydia smith
He does.
ian crossland
Slow down.
lydia smith
It's a slow down, guys, yeah.
tim pool
Uh, Lydia, of course, is producing.
lydia smith
I'm back.
I'm back from Colorado.
tim pool
And it is my displeasure to unfortunately say that Seamus is here again.
seamus coughlin
You know what?
You're no picnic either, Tim.
unidentified
Oh wow.
seamus coughlin
I know, I'm so awful.
This wasn't exactly my first choice for my Monday evening plan.
tim pool
We forced him to come.
seamus coughlin
They literally forced me out here.
ian crossland
You look smoother in your new haircut.
Sorry to cut you off.
unidentified
Thank you.
seamus coughlin
I appreciate that.
It's funny, the first time I ever came out here to work with Tim, they flew me out first class.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
Did we?
seamus coughlin
He's spending my money!
I think after dealing with me, they're like, coach every time since.
They're like, there's no way.
Welcome to the crew.
tim pool
So, Seamus' Freedom Tunes, I guess everybody knows that, right?
lydia smith
I think so.
unidentified
Do they?
seamus coughlin
I hope so.
tim pool
You just did this thing about the New York Post censorship with Jack Dorsey and he's like standing guard at a club.
It's really, really funny.
I just got to give the synopsis because I love it.
There's this guy and he's basically like, I got this really big story about the vice president's son.
And Jack's all like, well, I can't just let anybody in.
unidentified
We're very careful on Twitter.com about who we actually let post on our platform, because we want to be responsible.
tim pool
But my favorite part is when a guy in a straight jacket runs up screaming, the Russians are everywhere!
Trump is a Russian!
And he's like, right this way, sir, and he lets him in.
Could you imagine what it would be?
Oh, I don't want to spoil the whole thing.
People should check it out.
seamus coughlin
You guys should check it out.
YouTube.com slash Freedom Tunes.
Watch some of my videos.
It's a funny one.
A buddy of mine suggested the idea to me and I was like, yeah, let's do it.
I think it's a good way to tackle the issue.
lydia smith
Well, it was great.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
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We're gonna have a huge election night party.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
It was an accident.
I wasn't actually planning it.
lydia smith
I'm stoked.
tim pool
But every time we have, like, a guest in the past two weeks, I've been like, what are you doing for election night?
You should just, like, come hang out.
And now we have, like, 20 of our past guests.
Are you kidding me?
seamus coughlin
I thought I was special.
They invited me.
Like, you should come out the week before the election.
So, like, you could, like, do the show for election night.
It'll be crazy.
tim pool
We had to lie to everybody.
You're the special one.
People only want to hear you shame us.
seamus coughlin
I know, you had to lie to everyone and tell them I wasn't gonna be there or else there's no way to show up.
Dude, you could have just invited me and like, given me a week to just watch everyone's videos so I could just do impressions of them and you wouldn't have to fly them out.
tim pool
And then what we'll do is we'll be like, oh no, oh no, it's a camera glitch, our microphones are still working, but Ben Shapiro is here and Jordan Peterson here.
seamus coughlin
It's like, I don't know if Donald Trump Isn't it interesting that Jordan Peterson came back right before the election?
How's that going to affect him?
unidentified
What is he going to do?
seamus coughlin
Do you think he's going to comment?
And he can't vote, right?
He's Canadian.
Canadians don't have any rights here.
lydia smith
They don't get to vote.
seamus coughlin
We don't let them do that, nor should they.
All Canada has is syrup mines.
That's their entire economy.
tim pool
Did you know that they have a strategic maple syrup reserve?
lydia smith
They do.
seamus coughlin
I would believe that.
tim pool
And there was a great maple syrup heist.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Not even kidding.
unidentified
For real.
ian crossland
What happened?
tim pool
Like some dudes were like, for over a long period of time I guess, were siphoning off their strategic maple syrup reserves.
Like millions of dollars worth of maple syrup.
seamus coughlin
Sometimes you just lean into the stereotype.
That's true.
tim pool
Look man, stereotypes exist for a reason.
Isn't this saying?
seamus coughlin
And none of the Irish stereotypes are true, I find.
I don't think I have any family members who drink too much.
I don't think I've ever known any Irish Catholics or Irish people who had a lot of kids.
I'm kidding, I'm being facetious.
Irish Americans do probably drink and fight more than the average person.
Do you know what happened when these far left protesters went through the Irish neighborhood in Chicago?
Yeah, exactly.
Go to the South Side.
South Side Irish.
So my entire family is from the South Side of Chicago and I love them to death, but we
moved out to the suburbs when I was a kid, but we'd be out there all the time and it's
where the entire extended family was.
Dude, dude, dude.
Yeah, Irish Catholic Chicagoans are an interesting...
tim pool
Do you know what happened when these far left protesters went through the Irish neighborhood
seamus coughlin
in Chicago?
tim pool
The Irish...
They got beat up.
I'm not even kidding.
It's not...
It was the NATO protest in 2012.
I was there and I knew once they started marching, I think it was like South Halstead, I was
like, oh no.
Like, this is not gonna go up.
seamus coughlin
Isn't that fantastic?
tim pool
There was like some old dude who was like 60-something, like missing teeth, and he pulls his shirt off, and he was... Of course he does.
They were livid, they were like, get out of our neighborhood, and started just punching people, and they were like, why is he attacking us?
I'm like, dude, you're marching through his neighborhood at night screaming.
These people don't care about your politics, man.
seamus coughlin
He came out and whipped his butt with a can of Old Style in his hand.
unidentified
That's awesome.
tim pool
These people don't realize, when it comes to actual lower-class white people, they won't stand for this privileged, upper-crust, far-left protest.
seamus coughlin
No, and no lower-class people at all.
If you talk to black people, the vast majority of black people I've met in Grand, I live in the South, I live in Georgia, but they tend not to have left-leaning political views.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
seamus coughlin
Everyone has just totally adopted, or every group that the left claims to advocate for has adopted their socially progressive worldviews.
Completely insane.
tim pool
I saw, I think Lauren Southern posted this on Instagram.
And it was like, I don't know, I think it was in the UK.
The proportion of political factions and how much they post, and the progressive left is more than half of all social posts.
And then each other faction was under 10%.
With like conservatives at like 7%.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, isn't it interesting how we define conservative, though, to be all of those other factions?
If you like anything other than progressive left, you're conservative.
tim pool
This graph actually had a bunch of different things in it.
There was, like, pragmatic moderate, and there was, like, traditional liberal and stuff.
But then it was progressive left, 55%.
Everyone else was, like, 5%.
seamus coughlin
No, 100%.
I just think it's interesting that, in common parlance, conservative is usually used to refer to any of the groups that you mentioned, aside from the progressive left.
Like, moderate progressives are referred to as conservatives.
tim pool
You know what I think is really funny about the U.S., though?
Is that, like, the left is defined by the most extreme of the left, by their choice.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
So, like, if you have me, and I'm like, I am pro-choice, and I believe in a progressive tax, then what?
lydia smith
Amy Coney Barrett has officially been confirmed.
unidentified
Beautiful!
seamus coughlin
My prayers have been answered.
Fantastic.
ian crossland
She's going to the Supreme Court.
seamus coughlin
Thank God.
That's amazing.
That is incredible.
I'm very happy to hear that.
tim pool
Yeah.
Anyway.
lydia smith
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
tim pool
Should we talk about that?
lydia smith
Yeah, let's do it.
tim pool
So actually, actually, this is a good segue.
We'll do this because we'll talk about the suspicious package, I guess.
Not that it matters all that much, but it goes into what I'm saying about this extremism from the left.
If a lot of these people on the left view the left and right as defined by status quo versus the revolution, like from a French revolution perspective.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
Who's for the status quo.
So therefore, they're like, Tim Pool's obviously right-wing.
He likes the system.
He's a reformer liberal.
Well, I mean, that's correct.
I am a liberal and I'm for reforming.
But in terms of their view of having a revolution, yeah, it does.
Because I am not for their revolution.
They're weirdos.
So then what happens is, you get someone like Bernie Sanders who's like, We're gonna vote!
We're gonna change the system!
And they're like, Capitalist!
Nationalist!
You're not left-wing!
I kid you not, they've called Bernie Sanders right-wing.
seamus coughlin
Are they calling him that?
tim pool
That's fascinating.
There was a post on the World Socialist website that called Bernie Sanders a nationalist capitalist.
seamus coughlin
I don't know if you know this, Tim, but Bernie Sanders is actually a moderate.
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen. If left and right are defined by who's in favor of the revolution,
what happens if you're on the left but then you like demand a revolution of the left so
you're even further left?
Oh wow.
Now the far left is right to you?
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That's what they're doing.
Well I don't know if you know this Tim, but Bernie Sanders is actually a moderate. You
know that in Europe he would be considered right wing?
Yeah.
I'm so, dude, I cannot stand that.
It's like, yes, alright, yes, left and right are subjective.
There is not like a set definition that we've stuck with from the French Revolution with respect to policy positions that have carried over since then.
But, yeah, the left and right shift in your nation, and it happens to be the case that Bernie Sanders is pretty far to the left in the United States.
tim pool
He's almost as far left as you can go on the economic scale.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
He's in favor of the worker controlling the means of production.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Well, this is also funny.
They do this thing where they'll look at European politics and say that if we want to be more objective, we should define our political spectrum in relationship to theirs.
And they'll be like, oh, well, like in Europe, this is actually a moderate policy X, Y, and Z. But nobody in Europe has any policies, or at least most countries in Europe do not have policies on abortion, which are as left-wing as the Democratic Party's is.
tim pool
So there's this graph I like to show of the Democrats moving super far left and the Republicans staying where they are.
It comes from the New York Times, an article called, What Happened to Our Political Center of Gravity?
But they did this clever thing where you see the Democrats go super far left, but then they're just over a black line that says, median party.
And so when leftists see this, they're like, wow, so the Democrats are center-left?
That's funny.
And Republicans are far-right?
It's like, no, no, no, no.
They're left of the average European party, and Europe is very far left.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
So that means we are more far left than Europe.
Or the Democrats are.
ian crossland
I was thinking about the way an atom works with the heavy center and then the electron
and the proton is much heavier than the electron but they have equal magnetic charge.
So it's kind of like the right is like 90 plus percent of the population now because
this far left is so radical and all over the place.
They have relatively equal magnetic charge because of social media, like equal amounts
of influence it seems like even though there's so many, so much fewer.
seamus coughlin
I think it's the opposite.
I think that it's always been the case that most people have had pretty socially conservative or maybe even libertarian views, but the mainstream media has always been left-wing or center-left.
And so once social media came about and you actually had people who were voicing opinions
that didn't necessarily conform to the status quo of the dominant media culture, right-wing
views started getting more airtime.
And this is why they say things like social media is biased towards the right because
while on social media you can actually see a right-wing perspective.
tim pool
Right, right, right, right.
They're surprised to see it.
But I think what you're talking about, that power that the left has, is because Wall Street is literally supporting it.
So I use Wall Street as kind of a catch-all term for the tech billionaires, the media billionaires, and literal big Wall Street cuts.
ian crossland
The kings of Saudi Arabia.
Who else is funding it?
tim pool
So how is it, you know, Bernie Sanders is like, you gotta vote Biden!
Vote for the guy who's being funded by Wall Street.
seamus coughlin
Yes!
That's insane.
It's completely insane.
The fact that, like, Joe Biden was playing so friendly with all the people, I'm sorry, not Joe Biden, but Bernie Sanders would play so friendly with all the people who he said were part of the establishment.
It's like, alright, you're telling me that this establishment literally exists to screw the poor over and help the rich, and you're, like, calling Joe Biden your friend?
You're saying that you like Elizabeth Warren, that she's a decent person?
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
tim pool
Dude, dude, dude, don't you get it?
Bernie was only complaining because it was sour grapes.
Elizabeth Warren was worth, what, $5 million?
The Bidens are worth, I think, like $16 million?
Pelosi, with her husband, worth like $200?
And so there's Bernie, with his humble $174k, and he was, you know, living in his little Vermont house.
And then, all of a sudden, people started saying, we like this guy.
They bought his book, he became a millionaire.
And all of a sudden, his millionaire buddies were like, come on.
Come on.
And he was like, okay, okay.
ian crossland
I'm in the club.
I'm in the club.
seamus coughlin
Tim, if you wrote a bestselling book, you could be a millionaire too.
tim pool
That's what he said, right?
ian crossland
I don't think it's that.
I just, I still love Bernie.
tim pool
He's hysterical.
ian crossland
I think that it's because he hates Trump and he's got TDS so hard, which is sad, but that's what I think it is.
seamus coughlin
No, because here's the thing.
This is a cliche.
I understand that this is sort of the conventional wisdom at this point and everyone's said this, but if there was a candidate who actually could stand a chance to go up against Trump, I do think it would be Bernie Sanders.
I think working class people actually like Bernie Sanders in a way that they don't most of the other candidates that the left is trying to put up.
tim pool
Five years ago.
seamus coughlin
You think five years ago?
tim pool
Five years ago.
seamus coughlin
I don't think Bernie would have won against Trump, but I think he would have stood a better chance than like Biden.
tim pool
Five years ago, Bernie Sanders said in an interview with Vox, he was asked about open borders and he said, that is a Koch brothers proposal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We are not for open borders.
unidentified
Now he's on the stage being like, we've got to decriminalize all border crossings, free healthcare.
And then, dude, the billionaires are bad, but not the ones funding Joe Biden.
seamus coughlin
He's alright.
tim pool
If Trump is a billionaire, he's bad.
seamus coughlin
Well, back then he was also saying millionaires are bad, because he wasn't one yet.
unidentified
He was a millionaire, now it's just the billionaires.
seamus coughlin
What happens when he becomes a billionaire?
unidentified
He's gonna be like, trillionaires like Jeff Bezos cannot run this country.
seamus coughlin
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
It's funny because, so Joe Biden gets more donations from higher income zip codes than Donald Trump does.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's true.
I read that the other day.
tim pool
And he's raising tons of money from high, like very, very wealthy billionaire investors.
How are we in?
This is the craziest thing to me.
I'm talking to some of these leftists, sometimes I'll tweet them and stuff, and I'm like, I don't understand how you guys found yourselves on the side of the billionaires.
Like, Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg.
Literal billionaires.
And you're like, well, I think they're alright.
And I'm just like, I'm asking some of these people, do me a favor, like, you don't like Trump, right?
Okay?
That's fine, you don't have to like Trump.
Can you say, Trump is bad, Joe Biden is bad?
I'll do it first.
Trump is bad, Joe Biden is bad, your turn.
And they won't do it.
They won't do it.
How is the revolution on the side of the, like, conglomerates, the international interests, the corporations, the billionaires, the crony establishment politicians?
seamus coughlin
It's almost like it actually has nothing to do with helping the poor.
It's almost as if the Democratic Party has no interest in that at all, and it's just about getting their own radically left-wing political agenda across that just happens to be trendy with the intellectual elite, including most tech millionaires and billionaires.
tim pool
This is the weird thing.
What are Republicans doing?
To be fair, this is what's interesting.
No, no, no.
Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzer were just ragging on Nancy Pelosi because the Republicans have conceded on the COVID relief bill.
This is the mind-blowing thing.
I used to say, you know what?
I don't know what the Republicans are doing.
I think they're trash the same.
It's rhinos and dinos.
It's people who want to get in office.
It's give me the power.
I'll do whatever I want.
I'm not a fan of that.
I'm not a big fan of Republican policy for the most part, even when they do actually meet it.
But I like principle.
Now I'm like, talking to my family, I'm like, they're like, what are the Republicans doing for us?
Well, actually the Republicans just like caved to the Democrats on all the COVID stuff to get the bill passed so that 25 million Americans can get their unemployment benefits in this crisis.
And Nancy Pelosi said no.
And it was so bad.
Wolf Blitzer called her out.
Members of her own party called her out.
seamus coughlin
I saw that.
tim pool
Jake Tapper just called her out.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
tim pool
Jake Tapper said, it seems like the Republicans have moved your way on this and you could take yes for an answer.
And she was like, no, no.
No, they're moving the goalposts.
They say, we're doing it.
They're doing it.
And you've got actual Democrats.
I think it was Mark Rose.
He said, the Democrats need to learn how to declare victory and sort of walk away.
Walk away from this.
They've won.
Nancy Pelosi's like, here's the things we want.
And Trump was like, okay, you got it.
Well, I mean, we don't really want it.
Yeah, exactly. So now she's been holding up the whole time and it's really messed up because I see I see some some
resistance Democrats like really desperate.
They hate Trump so much and they're like it's actually Trump's fault this isn't getting passed.
And then CNN is like actually it's the Democrats and I'm like dude when CNN is on the side of the Republicans it
must be really bad.
100%. Really bad. That's the weirdest thing to me. It's the Republicans who are trying to help the poor.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
What?
tim pool
I never thought I'd see that day.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, I mean, again and again, I'm no fan of the Republican Party.
I would tend to argue that at least like the principles behind conservative thought tend to be better for poor people because I think the government's just done an abysmal job attempting to help them.
But I totally get what you're saying.
It's really sad with the first COVID relief bill.
I'm not as familiar with the second one.
So if you'd like to break that down.
Same one, same one.
Okay, because the first one was literally... But the first ballot was literally just a handout to the richest people in the country.
For the first COVID relief bill?
I'm talking about the first ballot that they did several months ago.
It was the largest transfer of wealth which has occurred in all of human history and most of it went to the wealthiest people in the country and in the world, frankly.
Basically, they gave the Federal Reserve, I believe, $450 billion.
so that they could leverage that to give out about $4.25 trillion in low-interest loans.
They're the largest companies in the country. And then small businesses had to go through the
Small Business Administration, which got a total of $350 billion and usually deals with about $30
billion over the course of a year, and now had to give out $350 billion over the course of several
weeks. And so what happened was there was an insane amount of fraud along
A lot of these small businesses didn't get the money.
60% of the businesses that closed during this lockdown are never going to reopen.
But look what happened.
The richest people in the country got these interest-free loans from the government, and now they're going to be able to buy up all of the assets of the small businesses that went under during COVID, and it's just going to be a massive consolidation of corporate power.
And that's what the Democrats and Republicans gave to us in response to a pandemic.
tim pool
And there's more.
And there's more.
The lockdowns destroyed the small businesses, and the big box stores and Amazon flourished, and their stock prices skyrocketed.
So if you were a mom-and-pop shop that sold, you know, bikes, you're done.
But Walmart?
They're good.
They can sell all the bikes in the world.
seamus coughlin
A million percent.
tim pool
Now, we did see some stories where, like, in Michigan, they would put, like, plastic wrap up to block.
It's like, you can't buy this.
No one's allowed to buy these products.
It's the weirdest thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But what's crazy to me is how... I mean, and this is mostly a phenomenon of Democrat states with Democratic governors.
The Republicans weren't really doing this, for the most part.
But you look at these movie theaters, they decided to just end the movie industry.
That's really weird to me.
It's really, really weird.
Like, even right now, movie theaters are shut down in some states for no reason.
None.
Why?
It's almost like they were like, oh yeah, movie theaters?
I hate those.
Just shut them down.
They're gone.
seamus coughlin
It's a weird arbitrary thing.
ian crossland
Recirculated air and dirty chairs?
tim pool
I'm imagining like you know you got like what's what's a good state Phil Murphy in New Jersey the governor he's like they're like sir which businesses should we shut down and he remembers like when he was a little kid like eating popcorn in a movie theater watching you know Ninja Turtles or something or what I don't know Star Wars and then like some guy some like older kid bullied him and pushed him down and they all laughed at him and spilled his food and then he's like No movie theaters!
seamus coughlin
Shut them down!
None of the girls he asked to go to the movies went with him.
He's like, we're getting rid of the movie theaters!
There's no reason!
tim pool
And that's what we got.
The big box stores made billions in stock value.
The wealth of these people skyrocketed.
Small mom and pop shops are gone.
And the craziest thing is, it's the Republicans who are saying that was a bad move.
This is what's scary about the Democrats winning.
Do you know about the Great Reset?
seamus coughlin
We've talked about this a little bit earlier.
I don't think we had an in-depth conversation.
ian crossland
Do you know about the Great Reset?
tim pool
No, tell me.
Can you Google search Great Reset World Economic Forum?
lydia smith
Yeah, I have that article, I think, in the Time thing.
unidentified
I've heard of this.
lydia smith
I'll pull it up for you.
tim pool
The World Economic Forum is basically saying that COVID is an opportunity to reset global capitalism.
lydia smith
Oh, wonderful.
seamus coughlin
Oh, fantastic.
That's great.
tim pool
Under intersectional values.
seamus coughlin
That's good.
Good.
I'm really glad to hear that.
unidentified
But I'm not.
seamus coughlin
I'm just joshing around.
I'm very unhappy about that.
tim pool
It's funny because if they didn't put it on their website and I said this, they'd be like, Tim Paul's a crazy conspiracy crack bot.
seamus coughlin
I'm still saying it.
tim pool
It's literally just the Great Reset.
Here you go, check it out.
World Economic Forum, The Great Reset.
Let me check this.
And yeah, so there's an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate and simultaneously managing the direct
consequences of the COVID-19 crisis To improve the state of the world the world economic forum
is starting the great reset initiative. It's kind of like An ominous name for a second
seamus coughlin
That's unbelievably creepy.
Isn't there a fun irony in people associating capitalism, as it's referred to in this context, to free markets, and yet this is literally the definition of a planned economy?
You cannot reset a market.
That's not how it works.
ian crossland
Historically, the Greeks actually reset their economy when inflation got too crazy.
tim pool
And so did Venezuela.
ian crossland
We're saying no to debt.
They reduced all the debt to zero and started over.
tim pool
Could you imagine what Venezuela did?
They issued a new currency, it was called like the Bolivar Fuerte.
seamus coughlin
In Venezuela, oh.
ian crossland
The Bank of International Settlements releasing crypto, I mean they're basically going digital.
tim pool
I think this, Bitcoin's gonna become astronomically valuable.
Like, you hear these people, I'm not gonna give a hard number because I'm not, I don't know, but listen.
I hear people saying like, Bitcoin's gonna hit 28k soon, and they're always giving these big numbers like, Bitcoin's going sky high.
Bitcoin is an international trade medium, a digital asset that can be transferred instantly, and it's the perfect tool for a store of value, considering we're in digital spaces, we're doing things remote, we've locked everything down, and it can travel instantly across borders.
ian crossland
And you can't print as much of it as you want.
seamus coughlin
So there's a finite amount.
tim pool
It's the perfect medium for some kind of international store of value.
And I think with this great reset, whatever they end up doing with it, they're kind of vague, but they do talk about, you know, just like intersectionality.
They have a bunch of articles.
seamus coughlin
Here's a question I have for you, Tim, based on what I'm reading on the World Economic Forum, which I assume would just be a solid resource for learning about econ.
Yeah.
What is intersectionality and how can it help businesses tackle diversity and inclusion?
unidentified
Exactly.
lydia smith
Great question.
tim pool
And here it is from the World Economic Forum website.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
tim pool
And she's painting her eyelids with rainbows.
seamus coughlin
She's painting her eyelids with rainbows.
tim pool
The diversity and inclusion battle will only be won when people are seen as multifaceted in their social identities.
Intersectionality is a way of understanding how and why every individual's view of the world is different.
seamus coughlin
But how different is it allowed to be?
tim pool
Not very.
disability to race to age inclusivity none should be tackled in isolation.
Inclusion means everyone all the time not some people some of the time.
I think it would be really great if they talked to the American intersectionals about you
know white people because then they could hear this and be like oh wait we're not supposed
to treat people that way.
It's your own ideology man.
seamus coughlin
Yeah it's fantastic.
tim pool
So the crazy thing is that we have these Democrats that are locking everything down, and I wonder to what extent you have Democratic governors who like this idea of intersectionality, Black Lives Matter, and the Great Reset.
And I wonder how much of what they're doing may be motivated by the World Economic Forum talking about wanting to do it.
ian crossland
And they mentioned age.
So you think this is a bunch of 90-year-old wealthy people that plan on living until they're 6,000, and they're like, now's the time to get it in their minds?
seamus coughlin
Speaking of age, though, people talk about income inequality as though we just have these fixed brackets in the United States, but the reality is it's unbelievably fluid, and one of the number one drivers of income inequality is age.
Like, if you correct for age, income inequality, I wouldn't say entirely evens out, but it's reduced greatly.
It's just people who work more and have worked for, you know, in their industry a longer amount of time and have more experience are just The average net worth of a millennial is $11,000, but the median is $75,000.
tim pool
This is actually crazy, I was reading something about this.
It looks, I could be wrong, I was just reading some stats.
It seems like wealth inequality among millennials is insane.
seamus coughlin
I can see it.
tim pool
How so?
Like there's a small tiny bit of millennials who are extremely wealthy,
and then the most are extremely poor.
Like the average, I think this is what I saw.
The average net worth of a, yeah, okay.
The average net worth of a millennial is $11,000, but the median is $75,000.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
ian crossland
What is the median exactly?
tim pool
The median is just the middle, from the highest to the lowest.
ian crossland
Oh, okay, not accounting for how many there are.
tim pool
Yeah, and then the average is the, like all of them together, divided.
So the average is really low, but the median is like seven times higher.
So there are millennials who are super wealthy.
Well off.
I mean, maybe it's a YouTube thing.
seamus coughlin
YouTubers.
It's just YouTubers.
The only millennials making any money are YouTubers and everyone else is just screwed.
tim pool
Why is it that so many millennials are commies or socialists?
seamus coughlin
That's true.
lydia smith
Makes perfect sense.
seamus coughlin
And then the small percentage that are conservative are just the really rich ones who's like, oh, actually these principles make more sense.
tim pool
Or just having a net worth higher than $11,000.
Yeah, that'll do it.
seamus coughlin
That'll make you not a communist, is having a net worth more than $11,000.
tim pool
Well, think about if you inherit something from your parents, the family business, stake in the family business, you're already worth more.
That's something we should probably look up.
I wonder if conservatives have a higher net worth than liberal millennials.
ian crossland
I have no doubt.
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't that way.
seamus coughlin
There was a video I did on this a while ago for the Foundation for Economic Education, which, if you'd like, we started a new YouTube channel, the Foundation for Economic Education.
It's called Common Sense Soapbox with Seamus Coghlan.
But we did a video a while ago on income inequality, and we also did a video on inheritance taxes and the way it shakes out.
Inheritance taxes actually make income inequality worse because poor people are more likely to inherit their wealth, or they inherit a larger percentage of their wealth than do the rich.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Because why is that?
Well, so a lot of, actually a lot of inherited wealth is like inherited businesses.
So like farmland and such.
And when you have an inheritance tax, like it really hurts farmers, the people producing our food who are exactly like who you don't want to hurt, but who, for whatever reason, Marxists just have this tendency to screw over, which is one of the reasons their economies never work.
But yeah, it just happens to be the case that poor people are more dependent upon intergenerational wealth than the rich are.
ian crossland
And that's because the rich parent will make their kids wealthy before they die?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
I'm not sure exactly what the explanation is.
I just know it shakes out such that poor people inherit a larger percentage of their net worth than do the rich.
ian crossland
I think that makes sense.
Like, the poor parents won't be able to give their kids anything until they die.
tim pool
Well, but think about what wealth is, right?
So, just because... Let me stop.
If a poor person owns a house worth $50,000 in the middle of nowhere, that means the wealth of the child is the $50,000.
Yeah, exactly.
Whereas somebody who earns their money is going to be worth way more than that if they
become wealthy.
So they're earning their income through industry, but the average person earns their value through
having it passed down generation to generation.
So I'm actually, this is why we have commies now.
This is why millennials are all for Bernie and whatever, even though he's in favor of
the billionaires, I guess.
I gotta say, I don't blame all of the millennials.
Some of them are more responsible than others.
But think about what happened to this generation.
I remember when I was growing up, they said, go to college.
And I said, why?
And they said, so you can get a good job.
And I said, why do I need a job?
To make money.
Can't I just make money?
So I remember I read this article from an economist who said it's a terrible investment.
Imagine going to an investor and saying, for $40,000 after four years you will owe $40,000 plus interest.
And they would laugh in your face.
Would I have to show for it, piece of paper?
That's ridiculous.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So I ultimately was like, I'm not gonna do it, but millennials all go to college because their parents are like, you have to.
And I've talked to a ton of my friends all throughout the years, and they keep saying, my parents are making me, and I'm like, dude, you're an adult.
Like, you're 19 years old, and like, I live at home with my parents, they'll kick me out.
So kick you- Go, go get a job.
What are you doing?
seamus coughlin
This is interesting.
I don't know.
I mean, I wouldn't say that this is intentional, but the way it shakes out the entire student loan crisis, as well as the fact that college education is as expensive as it is in the entire infrastructure we have built around higher education is a massive handout to the corporate world.
Because what a college degree allows you to do is, is determine whether or not somebody would be a suitable worker for your company.
So you don't really have to go through as much of a trial period with them.
If someone has a degree, they probably are a more promising worker.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, this is what, they are more likely to hire people with degrees.
Sure, sure, but I disagree with you.
No, I 100% agree that that logic can be flawed, but for the most part, employers do find knowing
whether or not a person is college educated to be very useful in their desire to employ.
And so, they're almost like these litmus tests that people are paying for on their own to
pursue these careers.
And then on top of that, when you're massively in debt, you are more dependent upon your employer.
You're less likely to strike or go off on your own and work for another company.
So, even though, and it's funny because where did it all come from?
Well, it came from the desire to help poor people.
We should make sure that everyone can get an education, so what we're going to do is federally subsidize student loans, so that anyone can take out a loan, and then anyone can get a college education, and look what happened.
tim pool
Look at the housing crisis.
seamus coughlin
Well, exactly, because according to the National Bureau for Economic Research, pretty straightforward conclusion they came to, but it's always good to actually cite A reputable think tank.
They said that colleges respond to federal subsidies by increasing their tuition.
Yeah.
It's really straightforward.
And so, yeah, it started as, let's help poor people.
Let's help them get an education.
Education's a great thing.
And it resulted in this massive dystopian nightmare where almost everyone in our generation is unbelievably in debt.
And who is it helping?
It's helping the rich.
tim pool
I used to have a lot of people hitting me up about traveling the world and covering news when I was doing it.
Now I get people hitting me up about YouTube and stuff.
So back in the day, when I was at Vice and everything, people would be like, I want to do what you do, man.
Like, oh, I want to travel around.
And I usually complain that millennials don't actually want to do the work.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
Yeah, I've seen your video on this.
tim pool
So I've talked about how, like, I've had people say, well, I mean, I don't want to spend the money.
Like, I have a really nice apartment in Brooklyn.
And I'm like, what's more important?
Going to, you know, I don't know, Ukraine for this crisis and covering it and being there or having your nice apartment in Brooklyn?
But I like my apartment in Brooklyn.
Okay.
The other thing, though, is that a lot of people said, I can't have student loan debt.
I'm like, can you quit your job right now, take your savings and fly?
I mean, I could, but how am I going to pay my student loans back?
Yep.
Can you defer them?
Like, but then the interest is going to get really bad.
And it's like, okay, well then you, congratulations.
You signed your soul away for what?
lydia smith
This is exactly how they get you.
They put you in this cycle where you start out, where you owe this massive student loan and they keep you in your work.
Forever.
Just forever.
You just sign a contract for the rest of your life to just be like, okay, this is what I'm doing now.
They do, 100%.
ian crossland
I've deferred mine for 20 years.
I'm still in deferment.
I just never want to pay those back.
tim pool
You can't do anything about it.
You can't bankruptcy.
seamus coughlin
He's just banking on the whole system collapsing before he has to pay that off.
Let's just wait until the election is over.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
I gotta be honest.
His investment is about to pay out in spades.
seamus coughlin
November 4th and I'm good!
That's the entire like we all think we're worried about the election.
Ian has his entire financial future riding on it.
ian crossland
My plan was to bankrupt.
I graduated in 2001 and I was gonna bankrupt my student loan debt.
tim pool
You can't do that.
ian crossland
But George Bush in like 2003 made it illegal.
seamus coughlin
You cannot bankrupt your student loans.
You gotta keep them.
Well yeah and I guess like they can't repossess a degree so that's the brilliance of it.
You could never ever ever default on those loans.
ian crossland
I was in a unique It's a college situation where it was worth it, I think.
Even though I've been in debt, I've never really stressed too much about it.
It's always been a deferment.
I owe more than I borrowed 21 years ago.
But I had a phenomenal experience in college.
I went to become an actor, a journalist, and then I switched to become an actor.
I was acting, so I was kind of paying to be there to learn how to act.
I met a phenomenal friend, a beautiful girlfriend, and it launched my confidence.
And so it was a hands-on degree.
It wasn't like I went to study some business knowledge that I could have learned elsewhere.
It was actually like, Acting like it was I had a job to do one.
seamus coughlin
It gave me an opportunity 100 I don't doubt that good things came out of your college experience, but Great things have come out of a lot of people's college Experiences and the system just set up in a way where you ended up getting screwed cuz my dad my dad paid for his entire college It was like the typical boomer story, but my dad paid off his entire college education working at Juul over the summer What one tuitions way lower back then?
No, no, that's my- No, I'm not saying, like, go work at Juul, Ian, but I am saying that it was so unbelievably cheap back then that you could actually do that, which is- That's completely out the window now.
tim pool
Do people know what Juul is?
seamus coughlin
Juul, Oscar, do they not have that?
Is this just a Chicago thing?
That's right, that's hilarious, they might actually not know.
I went down to the Juul area and got some old styles.
tim pool
Savon, Safeway, Ralphs.
seamus coughlin
Is Dominic's Chicago thing?
Dominic's Chicago thing?
Is it really?
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious, dude.
Our whole audience says Tim and I are the only people who know any of this.
ian crossland
Safeway, is that New York?
tim pool
Safeway, yeah.
ian crossland
Ralphs is California.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What does New York have?
seamus coughlin
New York has COVID-19 and nothing else.
They've got those really thin aisles.
You know what, it's not good for social distancing.
That's why I got so bad there.
Did you go to college?
I did go to college.
ian crossland
What was your degree and set up and debt?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so no, I was unbelievably privileged.
I mean, I did community college for two years, but yeah, I mean, my parents took care of the rest and I was not going to go to college, but...
My plan was just to keep working and enter the industry and continue to build my business.
And my parents said, no, we really want you to go.
And I said, that's an unbelievable gift that most people don't get.
So I'm going to do that.
And I'm forever grateful to them.
And I continued working on my business for the two years that I went away to the school I went to, which was the Savannah College of Art and Design.
And by the time I graduated, my enterprise was making enough money for me to just live off of.
tim pool
Okay, so here's a question.
Do we forgive student loan debt?
ian crossland
Just forgive the interest to start off.
seamus coughlin
100%, yeah.
It's insane to me that you could charge interest on loans that the government is guaranteeing.
Seriously?
Isn't the entire point of interest like, alright, I'm taking a risk by giving you this money.
I don't know if I'm going to get it back, so I should have something to show for it.
The federal government is just giving you the money.
It's guaranteed that you're going to get it back.
The idea that you'd be able to charge interest is criminal.
tim pool
But they want you to be permanently locked in place.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Good little workers who can't leave.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
No, that's what it is.
That's why it works out for them.
tim pool
So think about what's going on right now and how these urban millennials who went to college and have this massive debt are facing what's going on.
Their debt's getting worse.
The deferments, the interest rates piling up.
They can't find work.
And then along comes a Bernie Sanders.
I'll give you everything you've ever dreamed of.
seamus coughlin
I totally understand.
ian crossland
If this happened 20 years ago, if I was 20 years younger and I was 20 right now, I would be one of those people.
Bernie Sanders, collectivist, let's burn it all down and undo all that.
It would be crazy.
tim pool
You know why it's young people?
Their net worth is $11,000.
They don't care.
ian crossland
Their net worth is negative, probably.
tim pool
Well, actually, millennial net worth under 30 is negative for college kids.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but it makes sense.
I mean, part of the difficulty, though, is like if there was and this is part of my problem with the whole idea of like free education is I think you end up with the exact same problem that we have now.
It just exacerbates itself because the whole idea was, again, let's let poor people go to college.
We're going to do that by federally guaranteeing these student loans.
As soon as the consumer is removed from the pricing structure and you just have the government with these bottomless pockets paying for everything the price goes up and then if it's based on loans people end up with a lot more debt.
I think what we need to focus on in this country is improving the 12 years of education that we do give to everybody to ensure that they can be prepared for the workforce or better yet just Do away with that.
I'm actually a big advocate of homeschooling.
I think the public school system is completely broken, and I think we talked about this last time, but the idea that people are not prepared for the workforce after 12 years of state-funded education, and the solution is to give them another four?
To me, that's crazy.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
High school should be what college is.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Yes.
Completely agreed.
ian crossland
Teach me how to start a business.
Teach me how to vote.
They didn't teach me any of this stuff in high school.
Teach me how to write a check.
I didn't learn how to write a check until college.
tim pool
I know what it is.
The aliens are conditioning us to be good workers.
seamus coughlin
That's also true.
The aliens are going to work for us.
They're going to build more pyramids.
lydia smith
That's the plan, yeah.
tim pool
That makes sense.
They made us- I'm kidding.
seamus coughlin
Isn't that hilarious?
Why would they do that?
That would be such a rude thing for aliens to do.
Instead of giving us technology, they're going to build some stone triangles for us.
tim pool
Well, what if they need gold?
lydia smith
But what if they need it?
tim pool
That's true.
seamus coughlin
Did we talk about this?
Gold is their fuel?
tim pool
This is like a really old conspiracy theory that's been on the internet for a long time.
That they need gold to replenish their atmosphere or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Did you ever see those lights?
seamus coughlin
Neil deGrasse Tyson said that, I think.
tim pool
Well, Neil deGrasse Tyson said a meteor is going to crash into Earth today on November 2nd.
So, you know, here's hoping!
ian crossland
Is there actually a meteor coming close or something?
tim pool
But I think it's really small.
I think it's like six feet.
It's like super tiny.
lydia smith
Can I loop it back a little bit?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, please.
lydia smith
Because I know this is something we've talked about a little bit.
This is something that I'm very compassionate with Millennials on.
Because it makes a big difference to me that Millennials, I would like them to be happy and balanced and everything.
And I think that part of the reason that they're having so much problem is that they have been sold a false bill of goods.
I think they've been told that they can go to college and get whatever job they want, and it's not true.
It's nonsense.
It means a bunch of nothing.
tim pool
You know what I think one of the biggest problems we have as a society?
First, I mean, it starts young.
What do American kids do from the ages of zero to five years old?
ian crossland
Watch Sesame Street.
tim pool
Nothing!
ian crossland
Sit around, watch TV.
seamus coughlin
I think it depends on the household.
tim pool
Well, for sure, but on average, a lot of kids are doing nothing, especially in cities.
seamus coughlin
I think there are a lot of parents who do just sit their kids in front of the TV.
tim pool
Or the tablet or whatever.
What should you do?
I was being homeschooled.
lydia smith
I was too.
seamus coughlin
Before I went off to school, my mom did teach me to read.
And I'm really bad at it.
My mom taught me and all of my siblings to read before we ever went off to school and we were just ahead of the other kids in our class.
Because guess what?
No one's ever going to be able to teach your kid as well as you can.
tim pool
I entered school knowing, like I'm in kindergarten, I knew multiplication and division and all this math that was like grades above everybody else.
My vocabulary was several years higher than the rest of the kids.
ian crossland
Did you skip grades?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
I bet if you did, you wouldn't have dropped out.
tim pool
Why?
ian crossland
Because you just would have finished when you were 12 or 13.
tim pool
No, it was trash.
I'm like, I was 14.
I went to high school and they were like, okay, now open the book because you're all morons and read the passage about how you're all morons.
ian crossland
By the time you were 14.
tim pool
I probably could have just skipped it.
I probably could have just... It's a waste of time.
ian crossland
You would have been like a 10-year-old in high school probably.
lydia smith
It's all stupid.
tim pool
It's a waste of time.
lydia smith
What we did in Colorado is that we had people go straight into college.
In high school.
You'd go into high school and come out with a college degree.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had stuff like that.
Like you'd spend a certain amount of time.
seamus coughlin
Or you'd do like AP classes.
Is that kind of what you're talking about?
tim pool
Kind of like that.
seamus coughlin
So anyway, look.
tim pool
Here's the point I'm getting to.
Not only was I homeschooled before I was five years old, I was like, as early as I could possibly communicate, my mom was teaching me and my siblings.
My family started a business, and I worked for the family business when I was like nine years old.
So my mom started a cafe, and so I was helping prepare drinks, she was showing me like management and stuff.
So I'm like 10 years old, I'm learning from the real world, I'm sitting next to adults as they complain about politics, and I was immersed in all of it.
So by the time I was 17, and they were like, it's time for college, I was like, why?
So what happens now is, you've got 18-year-old kids, and they're kids, they're not adults, they're not 18-year-old men, 18-year-old women, they're 18-year-old kids, and they're like, here, sign this paper where you can never have this debt cleared for bankruptcy or anything, it's attached to you forever, the interest rates are psychotic, and you have no idea how this works because we've never taught you, sign it, sign it.
ian crossland
They don't teach compound interest either.
lydia smith
Yeah, why not?
seamus coughlin
That makes perfect sense.
lydia smith
So we forgive the interest, is that what we're saying?
tim pool
No, no, it's true. So so crazy and there are workarounds, but we so we forgive the interest is that we're saying
seamus coughlin
I would say forgive the interest I would You're coming
I am a commie.
Well, no, you're right.
You got me.
I'm a commie.
Well, no, I think that it's insane.
I think it's insane for corporations to be able to profit off of public money.
lydia smith
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
I mean, as someone who believes in a free market, I think that's just, like, antithetical to my principles in general.
But even so, I believe in a free market, but I'm okay.
I believe it's alright to have some exceptions here and there.
I'm not completely dogmatic on it.
When it comes to student loan forgiveness in general, I'm not sure.
If we could work it out in a way where... My fear is if we did it, we would push the problem off further into the future and perpetuate the same system of college becoming more and more expensive, and then people who didn't go to college because they wanted to save the money are going to end up with the tax burden of forgiving those debts for people who did go to college.
And so it's not... If it was just like we could wave away All of the debt, I would say absolutely yes.
And I certainly believe that we should prevent these banks from being able to collect any more interest on them.
tim pool
Didn't Trump suspend the interest rates during COVID?
And I was saying that earlier in the year, and then Trump didn't.
And I'm like, once again, how is it the Republicans are doing the things that help the poor in these situations?
ian crossland
A couple of things.
One, I fully agree with you guys about homeschooling from zero to five, teaching kids mathematics, multiplication and division.
Do it!
Because kids can learn math at the age of three.
That's where we're at.
Humanity is a genius.
We have the internet.
You can do it.
Secondly, do you agree with defaulting on the debt to the Federal Reserve?
seamus coughlin
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
I don't know enough about it.
I've heard a little bit, and the Federal Reserve has been a topic of interest for me for a while, but when it comes to defaulting on the loan to them... Wouldn't that crash the global economy?
Well, then, if yes, then I'm in favor of it.
No.
lydia smith
I'm in.
seamus coughlin
Let's go.
Let's do it.
Let's get crazy, kids.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
ian crossland
If we defaulted on the interest only, is what I'm talking about.
tim pool
What would that do?
ian crossland
It'd be rad.
country like $20 trillion.
lydia smith
It'd be super cool.
tim pool
But what is it?
ian crossland
I could put that money into other things.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess it's it's a I think it's a purposefully complicated system so that no one really has any idea and
then everyone spends their time arguing about one section of it over here and then no one really knows.
But I can tell you the system as we have it set up right now, it's very difficult for people to save unless you go
into a market or make some kind of investment account or whatever.
But now that interest rates are in the gutter because of COVID, it's like, what do you do?
You just got to spend money and build something.
So ultimately, the best thing you can do, start a business, make money for yourself.
The problem is, going back to what I was saying before, we have a bunch of young people.
They spend, listen, let me ask you a question.
What were you doing when you were 13 years old?
seamus coughlin
When I was 13 years old, I was actually starting to teach myself to animate, and I was also buying broken computers and fixing them so I could resell them.
tim pool
And now here you are, you have a show, you animate, you've got a couple hundred... How many subscribers do you have?
seamus coughlin
460,000.
Boom.
tim pool
Very successful YouTube channel.
seamus coughlin
Thank you.
Very blessed.
tim pool
So when I was 13, I was playing music, I was skateboarding, I was doing Flash animation, I was doing Flash websites, video games, I was working on all this stuff, and You know, generally hanging out with people and learning how the computers worked and all this stuff.
A bunch of other people I know who ended up going to college, getting a degree they didn't need, because they didn't know what they were doing, with massive debt.
I said, what were you doing when you were 13?
They were like, nothing.
Riding bikes.
Just, that's it.
They would go out and play with their friends.
They would go to school and do the bare minimum.
And so we have young people who are being raised by a system that does not teach them to do anything.
And now we have a generation of millennials who can't do anything.
And their net worth is really low and they're in massive debt and they can't find jobs.
Then COVID hits and now, Now you got communism.
The only way out is if I don't got stuff and you do, I get your stuff.
ian crossland
I used to tell my parents, they were like, what do you want to do?
And I said, I want to be an actor.
And then they said, well, then you should start acting.
tim pool
I want to be a communist and take people's stuff.
seamus coughlin
They said start acting like it.
ian crossland
I auditioned for a play when I was 16.
I was a little later to the table.
I was 16 when I started.
Before that, I was working at a job playing magic cards, but I had my own job since I was 12.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
I remember in high school working this really, really lame job.
I had, it was a friend of ours.
I don't want to say the name of the company because they will get hashtag canceled for hiring me in high school.
But it was just, it was literally like an ushering slash security business where you, you would just stand there for between like a 12 and 16 hour shift and just tell people, no, like either let me see your ticket or no, you can't use that door.
And then people would like yell at you for things that were clearly not your fault, which happens to low level workers constantly.
Like people, this is the thing, man.
People will go to McDonald's and think that the kid behind the counter is stupid, but like I guarantee you he thinks you're a moron because he gets asked such dumb questions by all the customers all day.
tim pool
Dude, we were just, I was just at a fast food place.
ian crossland
I was thinking about the same thing.
tim pool
We were just at a fast food place.
It was a Nathan's Hot Dogs.
The guy was such a jerk.
Some guy walked up, and he started yelling at the workers there.
seamus coughlin
It's horrible.
tim pool
He's like, look at this.
And he opens the hot dog thing, and they were just like, well done.
I don't want to say they were burned.
He was like, look at those hot dogs and look at this.
Why would you give me this?
And then she's like, I don't know.
She's like, because I don't like you.
ian crossland
Yeah, I did it.
seamus coughlin
It was personal.
tim pool
Well, the crazy thing is I'm like, dude, if you went up and you were like, Hey, I'm sorry to bug you, but like these, these hot dogs kind of suck.
Can I get the good ones?
She might be like, I don't care.
It's not my money.
Like you got it.
You don't got to be mean.
Not only that, like she might hook it up.
She might be like, dude, I'm not the manager here.
Let me give you the best ones possible.
seamus coughlin
I'm sorry about that.
tim pool
It's like, why be mean to people?
ian crossland
I don't know.
People just good or something.
seamus coughlin
Well, people just have a tendency of taking their anger out on whoever they can get away with taking their anger out on.
It's not necessarily personal.
It's horrible though.
I agree.
tim pool
So here's the other thing.
So, there was an article recently, recently, I mean it's like the other day, it's in The Atlantic, saying that voting for Joe Biden is the right thing to do if you are worried about the woke left or the illiberal left.
seamus coughlin
What a great plan, yeah.
ian crossland
That's like blackmail, like don't, if you're afraid of getting your throat cut, vote for the guy that's threatening you with a knife.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
seamus coughlin
That's what they say.
tim pool
They're like, if someone tries taking your stuff, just give it to them, just give up.
That's what they tell you to do.
seamus coughlin
So so is not letting the terrorists win.
Isn't that like the whole thing we've talked about for 20 years?
So here's the thing.
tim pool
They're saying that Donald Trump fans the flames of the illiberal left or whatever.
And I'm like, Joe Biden's negotiating with them.
I'd rather have the guy fighting against them.
But anyway, I digress.
So there's another article by Helen Pluckrose that made a similar argument, and I don't want to put words in her mouth, but basically when I responded with, you know, why would I vote for the guy?
Like, it would just justify their tactics, the violence and the extremism.
And her response was, I wouldn't vote for Antifa either.
I felt like, I'm not trying to put words in her mouth, but to me, that she was arguing Joe Biden is not Antifa.
Okay, well, of course Joe Biden isn't.
Of course Joe Biden is not a socialist.
He's just the guy on bent knee begging them for their votes because he doesn't have a coalition to defeat Donald Trump.
So he's already done the Bernie Sanders pact, he's already negotiating with them, he won't call them out.
But more importantly, in New York, just the other day, a bunch of people were throwing eggs and rocks at Trump supporters in their cars.
And apparently, I think it was a woman, ran up to an SUV and pepper sprayed everyone, including the children.
That's not Antifa.
Listen, it was just some Brooklyn leftist.
These are the people saying Drumpf is bad.
I'm not gonna give them what they want.
They pepper sprayed kids because a guy had a Trump flag.
So I'm not voting for this guy, you know what I mean?
seamus coughlin
You remember when John Oliver said Orange Man bad and then pepper sprayed his audience?
tim pool
I don't.
seamus coughlin
I should be less dry.
I was just thinking of like a very, I was thinking of like a very establishment guy.
tim pool
So here's what, here's where I bring this up.
You get all of these young people who have been pushed into this grinder.
They have massive debt.
They can't pay it off.
The interest is piling up.
COVID happens and now they go insane.
And so I'm in favor of forgiving that interest, but these people have snapped.
Now they're throwing eggs at people, pepper spraying kids.
Not all of them, not every single one, but how often do you hear about these stories where a Trump supporter gets attacked?
There's like several thousand stories like this over the past four years where they're getting harassed, attacked, threatened in the street.
These people have snapped.
And what it is, many of them need a symbol of what they hate to attack, to damage, right?
Why did the far leftists throw a brick through the Starbucks window, right?
Because Starbucks is a massive corporation that symbolizes their hatred and their anger.
And you oppress me.
So they throw a brick through the window.
It does nothing.
It does nothing to help their cause.
It hurts their cause.
But it feels good.
Now people have replaced that symbol of the big corporations with Trump.
So now they see a Trump supporter, and they're like, YOU!
And they're taking all of that anger, and they're directing it towards random people who are waving flags.
seamus coughlin
That's... Yeah, no, I totally get where you're coming from, and I'm sympathetic to a lot of the struggles that people discuss younger people going through right now.
I've said this in the past, I mean, I'm unbelievably blessed.
I came from a two-parent home.
I was raised with, like, really solid Catholic values.
I was just set up, and A lot of the, really the best possible ways to be set up.
So I absolutely don't look down on anybody because their circumstances are harder.
I just think that the solutions being proposed by the left are horrible and I think they're taking advantage of people who are going through extremely difficult times.
And I would also say this, there was a time when like instead of telling people to check their privileges, we'd tell them to like count their blessings.
Because we wanted people to be grateful instead of feeling guilty.
And that's more or less where I'm at.
Yeah, I got a lot of great things out of life.
I've been tremendously blessed.
I don't feel guilty about that.
I feel grateful for that.
I thank God every day for the life that I've gotten because I've gotten so much that I
don't deserve.
But to say that the solution to that is to bend over and have this white guilt and tell
people, take whatever you want from me, implement whatever system makes you happier that you
think in the moment might be best for this country despite all of the evidence saying
it will never work is completely insane.
But that's exactly what they want.
That's exactly why they want people to feel guilt.
tim pool
This is the interesting thing about wealth inequality arguments and Andrew Yang saying, like, abolish poverty or whatever.
I don't know exactly what his hat said, but something to that effect.
Because we are.
Actively abolishing poverty.
Capitalism is doing that.
Like, the curve is, like, going way down.
Like, poor people in this country are poor, but many of them have air conditioning.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's the thing, right?
So about 99% of the world population subsists off of less than $30,000 per year, or makes less than $30,000 per year.
So if you make $30,000 a year or more, you are in the top 1% of the global economy.
Oh, totally, yeah.
And also, global poverty has been decreasing for decades.
Unfortunately, until these lockdowns, which shut down our production chain, now there are more people, for the first time in decades, or I believe two decades, there are more people at risk for starvation this year than there were last year.
And it's a massive swarth.
So, yeah, things are going in the opposite direction.
But that also shows you, and that can help inform us, on people making claims like, oh, how could you put economics above human life?
Because they don't know what economics means.
Exactly, they don't know what economics means.
They think it's just some abstraction that I think it means you make money.
Yes, exactly.
But all economics is about is like promoting human well-being and flourishing.
And when you shut down the entire economy, guess what happens?
People starve to death.
And it's hilarious because the left was arguing for so long that if you even want to cut a penny of welfare spending, then poor people are just going to die.
Because when people don't have money, they don't have access to resources.
And when they don't have access to resources, they die.
But we can shut down the entire global economy for three months and no one's going to die because of that.
We're actually going to save lives.
tim pool
So here's the interesting thing about wealth inequality.
I always hear they're like, Jeff Bezos is worth a hundred and whatever billion dollars and there are people sleeping in the streets.
That's a huge problem for our country.
And those are two completely separate things that are completely unrelated.
If you took away Jeff Bezos' money, you're not going to get people not living on the streets.
These people fundamentally don't understand how wealth works or how homelessness works.
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
They just think.
I love it when people say things like, think about how many empty homes we have.
We could put homeless people in them.
And it's like, you can't just do that.
People who say that clearly have never owned a home.
Understanding how much work goes into it.
What happens if you put a homeless guy in a house, and then the plumbing breaks?
Or the house burns down because of faulty wiring and the dude dies?
seamus coughlin
Well, what happens to the real estate market and all the people who actually have a mortgage and a home that they spend all this money on?
What happens to their property value or their home?
And then what happens to people who make their business or make their money renting?
I mean, you would actually have to radically restructure the entire economy to do something like that.
It's not just a question of putting homeless people in homes.
That said, there are solutions.
There are ways on the table and things that we can discuss to get homeless people housing, 100%.
That's not the issue, though.
Yeah, no, I agree.
tim pool
The issue is homelessness is driven mostly by mental health.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
So for these people to come out and say, people shouldn't be homeless, we should tax the wealthy, it's not right.
It's like, those are two entirely different universes.
You know what one of my favorite sayings is?
From people?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Feed the homeless.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Have you heard that?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
We want to go out and feed the homeless.
I'm like, bro.
Why?
They're not foodless.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're homeless.
There's a difference.
Just because they don't live anywhere doesn't mean they're hungry.
You want to feed the hungry, that's what you want to do.
But there's like these weird things, and these people, they have good intentions and I respect it.
But I actually worked as a director at a homeless shelter.
I actually worked for many non-profits.
And the problem is mental health and choices people make.
No amount of money.
Because some of the shelters were empty.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Homeless people didn't want to be in them.
seamus coughlin
A lot of shelters are empty now because of COVID.
You talk to homeless people, they will tell you, like, I can't get anywhere to stay right now because the shelters in my city are closed down because of COVID-19.
Another thing that's interesting is, of course, it's good to feed homeless people.
I firmly believe that.
But a lot of it is, again, this problem of them not having housing.
As opposed to not having food, though again, I believe we should feed them.
That said, so many homeless people have said to me, um, don't mess with drugs, don't mess with alcohol.
Which is an interesting thing to say, like they'll start sort of explaining some of the things that ruin their lives and encouraging you not to do it.
Now, I'm not saying because they ruin their lives in these ways that we just let them hang there, absolutely not.
Uh, but...
It's a horrible tragedy and a big part of it was the deinstitutionalization movement that we had in the 1970s.
So without even adjusting for changes in our population size, there are less people in mental health facilities today than there were before the 70s, which is completely insane.
Uh, and I think that's part of why we're seeing more massacres.
I think it's part of a- I mean, mental illness has become a much more serious issue in this country because we don't take it as seriously as we used to.
tim pool
Yes.
seamus coughlin
And I think that's also why homelessness is such a problem.
Because there are people who should be in the hospital, they should be in a mental health facility, but they're not.
They're out on the streets instead.
tim pool
So, going back to the wealth inequality thing, where you have Jeff Bezos with all this money, I'll tell you what the real problem is with the billionaires.
It's what Bernie Sanders used to say, their influence over our political structure is for self-interest, and the best example is Joe Biden being funded by billionaires and Wall Street, substantially more, Park Street.
And Wall Street colloquially.
ian crossland
The Congress people getting bribed with, like, campaign contributions and dinners and lunches and stuff.
tim pool
Do your air quotes when you say bribed.
Bribed.
ian crossland
Lobbied, we'll call it.
I don't need quotes for that.
tim pool
Fancy steak dinners.
Promises of, once you leave, we're going to hire you.
ian crossland
Wink, wink.
tim pool
Or, if you're, say, in a high position of power and you want to make money off your office, so you just have your kids sign the paperwork.
unidentified
100%.
seamus coughlin
But that's not what happened, right?
tim pool
Right, right.
That's just Russian disinformation.
seamus coughlin
That's just strange fake news.
There's no quid pro quo.
tim pool
So here's my issue, right?
A lot of people like to complain about George Soros, and I'm like, you know, George Soros is funding this and funding that and the protesters, and it's like, okay, well, first, let's break it down.
Who's he funding?
He's funding the Open Society Foundation, I believe, and then they provide grants to a bunch of different leftist organizations.
So, short answer, yes, but it's a bit more than that.
He gives out money and then they send it out in these areas.
ian crossland
And then he turns his back and closes his eyes.
tim pool
Well, I mean, he's just some bumbly old dude who's got a ton of money, and he's putting it into leftist programs.
But the thing is, I'm like, can you name the other billionaires who are doing literally the same thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So this is why I'm like, I get it, man.
You're mad about it.
When you say Soros, what you're saying is, billionaires.
Give me the Bernie Sanders line, okay?
The billionaires.
Because you've got the Mercers, you had the Koch brothers.
I don't know how active the Koch brothers are now, though, because I think they were doing some of that with some leftists.
I don't care if they're left or right, I really don't.
the base of mackenzie bezos what two billion dollars and to get a foundation
seamus coughlin
right right right it's always fun all over the world the gates foundation
tim pool
always oh yeah the lawns i don't care if they're left or right i really don't
okay if they're if they're in if they're if they have more power over
what we say in our own country it's a serious problem because then when all these politicians have to
worry about raising money for re-election then they then they're
gonna go and figure out a way to get massive cash from uh from the rich
people because It is easier to convince a billionaire to give you a million dollars than a million people to give you a dollar each.
ian crossland
So the other night I was talking to Tim about when we had Ryan on the show.
tim pool
Ryan Long?
ian crossland
No, no, no.
lydia smith
His name's Ryan Hartwig.
ian crossland
Oh, Ryan Hartwig, yeah.
tim pool
Facebook whistleblower.
ian crossland
I was talking about like a more of a direct democracy, but really it was more of a direct republic in that if you have
Your Congress people ABCD and E and they're all voting yay or nay on a bill rather than that. They can all be bribed
lobbied Have their constituents vote
700,000 people vote and then for a The majority will be yay or nay and then for B their
constituents vote the majority would be yay or nay And so instead of these billionaires being able to bribe
ABC and D they've got to have to target the 700,000 people so it's like
seamus coughlin
That's easy. Do you have those?
Yeah, you totally can, though.
You can totally bribe voters with the public treasury.
The public treasury, but not private money?
That doesn't matter.
Either way, they're being bribed.
unidentified
I'm just trying to think of how to get money out of politics.
ian crossland
I don't think you can.
seamus coughlin
It's not possible.
It's literally not possible.
You've just got to get the votes out of those single persons.
Money is politics.
You cannot get it.
ian crossland
The whole idea of representatives is kind of funky in that system.
tim pool
Well, with digital technology now, I'm trying to keep up with you guys.
lydia smith
You're all over it.
tim pool
With digital technology right now, the instant transfer of information and money, yeah, it's becoming really, really difficult.
There's no billionaire who says, here's a check for a million dollars, Trump.
What he does is, he says, I like this guy, Trump, have a nice day.
Write the check for a million dollars to the Trump super PAC that is no way connected to Donald Trump, and then runs the commercials to get him elected into office.
That's basically how it happens.
So there's a limit on how much an individual can give to a candidate.
I am not a fan of unrestricted super PAC mass spending.
I've never been.
And I've had people argue about it saying like, it's your money.
You can spend it how you want.
And I'm like, I don't like the idea of Mackenzie Bezos or George Soros or the Mercers or the Kochs or anybody saying I'm going to dedicate or Mike Bloomberg put what like $500 million, some ridiculous number into the primaries to just like boot out Bernie and do whatever.
seamus coughlin
And he couldn't.
He spent all that money just getting himself on stage.
He just got roasted.
tim pool
It was great.
lydia smith
Didn't work.
I love that.
seamus coughlin
I may have Bloomberg.
And he was up there and everyone's just scorching him the entire time.
tim pool
But I will, I will tell you what I enjoyed about it is, you know, he was making it, making it rain on YouTube.
You know, all those Biden ads.
seamus coughlin
So we did a video about that a while ago.
You guys should check this one out.
Another shameless plug.
We did a Bloomberg for America and he, it was just based on like, it felt like, and I almost forgot about this until you mentioned it, but for like a solid week or two.
unidentified
Everywhere you turned, there was a Mike Bloomberg ad.
seamus coughlin
And it was this weird kind of... YouTube ad revenue spiking.
Exactly.
It was this very strange moment where it was something that a totalitarian dictator would admire.
Like Kim Jong-un wishes his face was plastered as many places as Bloomberg's was for that one week.
tim pool
But it only works if you have a face worth looking at.
lydia smith
You don't.
He did not.
unidentified
Michael Bloomberg was just, you know, a really annoying guy.
lydia smith
He's all right.
He's cute.
seamus coughlin
He's, I think he's very handsome.
tim pool
And then Tom Steyer too, just dumping money.
So listen, my point is, sure.
I remember, uh, it was, it was almost 10 years ago.
I was at CPAC, I think.
And it was like, when, when was, when was the citizen united ruling?
That was, that was like 10, 12 years ago.
Was that or something?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't remember exactly when it was, but I was talking to conservatives and they were like, if you have money and you want to spend it how you see fit, you should be allowed to do it if that supports a candidate.
And I'm like, yeah, but you're creating a loophole for the ultra wealthy people to guarantee, essentially, essentially guarantee, because Trump won with half the cash of Hillary Clinton.
Yeah!
seamus coughlin
Isn't that the first time that's happened too?
Hasn't campaign spending been like the number one predictor of who's gonna get elected and kill Trump?
tim pool
Yep, whoever spends most.
And then Trump.
So maybe we'll see something again.
But I don't want these people to be like... Listen, here's what people don't understand about politics anyway.
Even with campaign limits on how much I or anyone else could donate, the more money you have, you can just donate to a hundred people.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
So imagine you're like...
The average person says, I can afford to give $20 to my candidate.
And then the average rich person says, I'm legally obligated not to spend more than $2,800.
So here's what I'll do.
I'll give $2,800 to every single Democrat.
That's just like blanketing the whole thing.
Or more importantly, they'll just be like, I'll just make the commercial myself.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, yes.
You can give people's campaign money in that way, and this is what Ben Shapiro said.
Okay, that's when he was debating Cenk Uygur, but he makes this point.
I mean, what really is the difference between you donating X amount of million dollars to Bernie Sanders versus you dedicating your entire YouTube channel to promoting his campaign throughout the entirety of the primaries?
Why is one okay and the other isn't?
Either way, you're just using your power and influence to change the political system in some way.
And therein lies... And that's something we cannot stop.
You can't change that.
That will always be the case.
tim pool
There's no way around it.
seamus coughlin
And I'm not saying it's a good thing, but the fact that being rich gives you power and influence is not some quirk of capitalism or the American system.
This is always the case.
Powerful people are powerful.
lydia smith
I agree, and I think that Michael Bloomberg gave me a lot of hope because I was like, he's not making it big.
I really thought he was going to get in there and smash it up.
I'm like, nobody liked this guy.
Everyone wanted him to go away.
unidentified
What are we talking about now, Tim?
tim pool
In that line of thinking with Republicans are not raising nearly as much as Democrats, the Congressional Democrats have been raising tons of money, and Donald Trump has raised a lot less.
Joe Biden is getting all that sweet, sweet green from Wall Street and Park Street and the billionaires.
Uh, it's actually looking really good in the battleground.
Check this out.
That's cool.
2020 general election early and absentee vote report.
This is from Target Smart.
And right now for battleground states, Republican turnout is 2.4% higher than Democrats.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
tim pool
Now, here's the important data.
In 2018, in these same states, at this time, there was 4.5 million Republican votes, 3.7 million Democrat votes.
Now there's 8.6 million Democrat votes to 9 million Republican votes, and 1.8 million unaffiliated for a total of 19 million.
10 million more than in 2018, and around 10 million more in 2016.
The first thing I'll say is, High voter turnout in early voting does not mean more voting.
A lot of people keep saying, like, wow, look how many people voted early.
That means it must be really big because election day.
No, no, no, no.
That means people already voted.
Early voting means the one person voted.
So we're probably going to see massive voter turnout for sure on the third.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
If in battleground states, on average, Republicans are winning, and they are saying, Nate Silver says this, 538, that Republicans are going to be heavily favored for in-person day of voting, then Republicans are dominating.
So, Democrats were expected to have a seriously large advantage with early mail-in voting, absentee, and early voting in person, and in many states they haven't.
Like, Philadelphia's really bad.
It's like apocalyptic for Republicans.
We'll see how this plays out.
But then there's the voter registration, you know, thing that Republicans have.
But in Battleground Senate, they're saying, you know, several people think that the Republicans are going to lose.
At least on average, it's looking really good.
Now, the interesting thing is for Battleground President, Republicans are down only, what is that?
Two points.
Two percent to Democrats.
They were up last election in 2018, and now they're down about 600 or so thousand votes in 2020.
Democrats are being encouraged to vote early in huge numbers, so they should have an advantage because they're going to be doing absentee as well.
They're not seeing that huge advantage.
Nate Silver said something like it was supposed to be D plus 17 for mail-in voting.
They're up two points.
Early voting is a really bad thing to base predictions off of because a lot of counties haven't opened yet.
Like, New York is just now opening.
But things are starting to look good for Donald Trump in a lot of ways.
And the only— This is the thing.
The media has created this narrative space where I can actually say this.
Donald Trump, it's looking really good for him, even though he's losing by double digits in the polling.
Why?
Because he's supposed to be down, what, like nine points on average from Joe Biden?
And we're seeing two.
Two percent.
seamus coughlin
That is really fascinating.
tim pool
Does that mean he's going to win?
seamus coughlin
No, no.
And we're not even sure what's explaining that, but it's definitely not what I expected.
ian crossland
That's for sure.
Right.
It's all the Republicans from 2016 plus a bunch of new people that used to be Democrat
that switched.
tim pool
Johnny Rotten.
ian crossland
Like none of those Republicans, almost none, have turned Democrat.
I doubt.
I would be very, very surprised to find out.
I'd like to find out the numbers.
tim pool
Do you see that viral story of the woman, like, doing the cards and she slowly pulls them?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And she's like, my dad was on his deathbed and we demanded he vote for Biden.
He said, okay.
lydia smith
Dude, that made me so mad.
seamus coughlin
That was really horrible.
tim pool
That's brutal.
ian crossland
You're up against an incumbent president.
Incumbents rarely lose.
unidentified
Right.
seamus coughlin
That's also true.
Yeah, yeah.
Presidents, they'll almost always get two terms.
unidentified
Dude, dude, dude.
tim pool
But, think about it.
You know, so Michael Tracy tweeted this thing out earlier.
It was this guy, in 2016, saying, in order for Trump to win at this point, every major national poll would have to be wrong.
Yeah?
When did that happen?
Is it possible?
Would I bet on it?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
I was like, is it possible?
Yes.
Would I bet on it?
No.
I'm not an idiot.
And then every single poll, it's not so much that they were wrong, it's that this far out they were wrong, and they started to shift.
A lot of October surprises really hurt Hillary, and then they missed one or two points of Trump's voters.
For Trump to win right now, every single pollster would go out of business.
Every single one.
seamus coughlin
I don't know, because they didn't go out of business last time.
tim pool
Yeah, but last time they were off by a point or two.
And it was like, it was within the margin of error, and our forecasts were wrong.
So they were like, the Real Clear Politics shows all of these different polls, and they're like, Hillary Clinton plus three, she was plus two.
lydia smith
Didn't Frank Lund say just the other day, he's like, if we get this all wrong, we all deserve to go out of business?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
He did.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
Let's screenshot that.
seamus coughlin
Let's archive that.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
He said people like me will have to find a new profession.
I think the point he was making, though, is we're not wrong.
ian crossland
Can you explain how polls are actually models?
seamus coughlin
That was an interesting conversation earlier.
tim pool
So yeah, people don't know this.
Polls aren't just like they call random people.
They're all weighted.
Weighted.
That means We have to guarantee X amount of Republicans, Democrats, and unaffiliated to match the national average.
We have to match demographics, so we have X number of 18 to 29-year-olds, X number of 80 to 29-year-old Latinos.
Then we have to figure out how demographics have changed and model based on that.
People don't realize polls are not just, we called 1,000 random people, and here's what they said.
ian crossland
Because if you called 1,000 people in New York, they're going to be like, Biden, you're going to be like, So when you've got a poll that says D plus 3, that's just based on the 2016 model?
seamus coughlin
Plus the demographics that have entered that area, the population growth they've seen with certain groups that tend to vote in a specific way.
tim pool
So, first, it depends on the model.
All these different organizations have different modeling.
They're not straight poles.
Like, if you went outside and walked around a person and said, which do you prefer, chocolate or vanilla?
You'd be like, I asked a hundred people, here's what I got.
They have to model all the different places, all the different political affiliations, different demographics, and try and get representative samples.
What ends up happening is a lot of these polls are sampling Democrats based on the projected Democrat turnout because of what we saw in 2016 and 2018.
So in 2018, we saw X many Democrats.
Therefore, we're going to ask, for every 100 people, we want 36 to be Democrats, we want 29 to be Republican, and then the rest to be third party or unaffiliated.
Then they say, based off of that, here's what we saw.
The issue is that Gallup does party affiliation tracking, which fluctuates.
Right now, in September, the September 14th tracking for party affiliation for Gallup was D plus 5.
It fluctuates wildly, and as of the latest, it's R plus 1.
So if right now polling is being based off of party affiliation numbers from, you know, last week, last month, or whatever, the party affiliations fluctuate dramatically.
Do the polls have 27% Democrat?
No, they're like 35.
So they're oversampling Democrats.
They try to account for this.
The polls say, like, our margin of error is this.
We believe we have a mean bias in this direction for this reason.
But what people need to understand about the polls is that I respect the experts.
I do.
I'm not a pollster.
But when they come out with a poll and they say, we believe we have a bias in this direction and a margin of error of this size for these reasons, they're telling you they don't know.
They're just giving us professional expert opinions on what they think is going to happen based on what they've collected.
What ends up happening then is you've now got Rasmussen, which is favorable to Trump very often.
Trafalgar Group says Trump's going to win.
Trafalgar Group straight up came out and they were like, Trump's gonna win re-election.
Hands down.
You've got the Democracy Institute saying Trump is up by one point.
But then when you look at all these other polls, they're like, Biden's up 16.
Then what ends up happening is, news outlets that want to favor their candidate will highlight only that poll.
In a new CBS News poll, Joe Biden is leading Trump by 12 points.
And then people say the polls are wrong.
Well, sure, if we go off Trafalgar and Rasmussen and Democracy Institute, Trump's winning.
So we don't know what's going to happen.
And that's why the polls are wrong simply because all of the polls disagree with each other.
My favorite thing about polling is that when you look at the real clear politics average, it's like Trump minus 2, Trump minus 12, Trump minus 4, Trump minus 20.
And I'm like, what is this?
Like none of these things, they're all random gibberish.
ian crossland
What is the real politics average?
tim pool
The RealClearPolitics average?
ian crossland
Yeah, what is that?
tim pool
They take a bunch of different polls from, like, the past several weeks and then average out the total approval.
ian crossland
Like, the two-week-ago one, the seven-days-ago one.
tim pool
It's the best way to do it, in my opinion, because they'll put Rasmussen up against, say, like, YouGov or CBS or something.
So you'll see Rasmussen typically leaning in favor of Trump, but Rasmussen was right
Wow.
in their national polling predictions for 2016.
They said Hillary Clinton was going to win by two points or whatever she did.
Everyone else was wrong by another point or so.
So when Rasmussen right now is saying that Trump's support approval from the black voters
at 46 percent, the argument is they were right last time.
The other thing is, Emerson, earlier this year, saw the same thing.
They said Trump's approval among black voters was at 30%.
If that's true, Trump cannot lose.
Period.
Period.
It's a long-standing trope, I guess.
That if a Republican ever gets 20% of the black vote, the Democrats will never win again.
seamus coughlin
That's fascinating.
I was unfamiliar.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll see.
I will.
ian crossland
I'm going to quit all the votes.
tim pool
I love this story!
Of course he did.
unidentified
I'm going to quit all the vote.
tim pool
We got this story.
unidentified
Go do it.
tim pool
We got to do it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
I love this story.
tim pool
$0.50.
lydia smith
Oh, boy.
tim pool
Endorse Donald Trump.
seamus coughlin
Oh, boy.
tim pool
Now, they're saying he's backtracking.
unidentified
Of course he did.
tim pool
They're saying he's backtracking.
I don't think he backtracked.
I don't think so.
seamus coughlin
Who was that lady who was like, I need to remind him he's black?
tim pool
Chelsea Handler.
seamus coughlin
Chelsea Handler.
That was the worst thing ever.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
seamus coughlin
That was the most white liberal woman statement I've heard in my entire life.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That wasn't the only thing she said.
Oh, no.
seamus coughlin
I'm taking my headphone.
I don't even want to hear it.
tim pool
She not only agreed.
Now you can hear me better.
unidentified
Oh, right.
That's nice.
Blackmail.
tim pool
Oh, for you!
No, I don't even... It's horrible.
It's horrible.
if he reconsiders his support for Trump, which I'm pretty sure is illegal.
She also agreed to sleep with him.
seamus coughlin
Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
tim pool
She said, she said, she said, go another round.
That's what she said.
Yeah, terrible.
I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
seamus coughlin
That's disgusting.
Anyway, I'm sure she's doing a bit, but that's still a horrible thing to say.
unidentified
Oh, we're not going to put her in jail.
ian crossland
She's just joking.
seamus coughlin
She's just joshing around, kids.
ian crossland
The judicial system's a joke.
I'm not an authoritarian, but at some point you've got to lock somebody up.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
I think she was joking, but it's still a horrible thing to say.
What do you think, Tim?
tim pool
50 Cent said, 62% tax under Joe Biden.
F that.
Vote Trump.
I don't care if Trump doesn't like black people.
I don't want to be 20 cent.
And then Chelsea Handler was like, you know, she said all these things.
Then 50 Cent posted again, F Donald Trump.
I never liked him anyway.
I don't think that's a backtrack.
I don't think he likes Trump in the first place.
I don't care if Trump doesn't like black people.
50 Cent doesn't want to pay all those taxes.
Of course not.
unidentified
I don't want to be 20 Cent.
seamus coughlin
I still love it.
tim pool
Is this the first candidate to ever run on raising people's taxes?
I heard that.
I don't know if that's true though.
seamus coughlin
Oh man.
tim pool
Like a president being like, read my lips.
I'm going to tax people.
seamus coughlin
Many new taxes.
If you're like me, your taxes are going to go up.
He's like saying he would raise our taxes, which is great.
Voters love hearing that.
Doesn't he realize that's one of those things you're supposed to lie about as a politician?
You are saying the quiet part loud, Mr. Biden.
tim pool
I love how the media and Twitter have been lying for him.
It's the funniest thing.
And then I hear people say it to me and I'm like, sit down, my child.
They're like, Joe Biden's not raising taxes on people.
You're so dumb.
unidentified
He's only going to raise taxes on people who make more than $400,000 a year.
tim pool
God, you're so dumb.
I have a question, my friend.
Is removing a tax cut raising people's taxes?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
What do you mean?
Well, so Joe Biden said he's going to repeal Trump's tax cuts on day one.
Does that mean that people's taxes will go up?
Yes.
So Joe Biden is going to take an action that results in your taxes going up?
Yes.
So Joe Biden is going to raise your taxes?
No, he's only raising taxes on people.
He's gonna raise taxes on everybody, dude.
seamus coughlin
What's funny is with the Trump tax cuts, as typically happens with the Trump tax cuts,
we actually saw an increase in revenue, but they say that there's a decrease in revenue
because they spent more than the increase was after we pulled it in, which is a ridiculous
way to argue that position.
this time this year yeah also so tax cuts are good for the country ladies and
gentlemen in good for individual people and i'm a middle class person you know i
i i am i'm like pretty firmly in the middle class making an average living in the
trump tax cuts saved me a good amount of money on my taxes i'm gonna i'm
tim pool
good i'm gonna let you on a big secret did you know that cutting taxes can
actually increase tax revenue no yes i
No, yeah, that's what I just said.
seamus coughlin
It does.
Yeah, it does.
Well, every single time.
I mean, the Trump tax cuts did increase revenue, but what happened was they spent the surplus so that, yeah, and so they used that to argue that we actually have less money than we did before, therefore his tax cuts decreased our revenue.
That's not true.
ian crossland
Sorry for the ignorance, but revenue is the incoming money minus the outgoing money?
No, no, no.
tim pool
Revenue is just the incoming money.
ian crossland
Then how can they say that the expenditures lower the revenue?
seamus coughlin
Because I think that they spent more than they had.
A, lying, but also they spent more than they had, so they were under budget, I think.
So then they're saying, oh, that means revenue decrease.
But raw revenue actually did increase.
The amount that the government pulled in was higher.
tim pool
Here's what happens.
I probably told the story on the show before, but there was a friend of mine, this was maybe like 15, 16 years ago, a friend of mine, her dad was a contractor.
Apparently there was, like, a Home Depot or something in Cook County, Chicago, and they shut down and then moved, like, five or six miles away into DuPage County and reopened.
And I, like, we were talking about it, and he said this is a really good example of raising taxes not working, because when they raised the sales tax in Cook County by, like, 0.02% or some really small number, The people who are like, the contractors say, I go to Home Depot, I order my wood, .2% over the year averages out, I'm going to lose $20,000.
I will drive an extra 30 miles for my orders and for my deliveries if it means I'm saving 20 grand.
So the Home Depot was like, we're losing business because of this.
We're going to reopen a few miles down the road and we're going to save our business.
So what ends up happening is Cook County lost all tax revenue trying to get a little bit more because jurisdictions are competing with each other.
So long as we don't have a nationwide uniform sales tax, the competition will exist.
And then someone in Cook County will be like, I'm going to go buy my expensive electronics in DuPage where the sales tax is lower and I'm going to save myself 20 bucks.
It's worth driving a few extra miles.
lydia smith
You know why?
Because business people can still do math, even though politicians cannot.
seamus coughlin
I just wanted to bring the receipts on what I was saying earlier.
According to the Congressional Budget Office data, in the 2019 fiscal year, federal revenues increased by 4%, but spending increased by 8%.
Right.
So they said the deficit spiked, therefore Trump's tax cuts didn't work.
No, his tax cuts did work.
The American people got more money in their own pockets, and it was also better for the government because they actually made more revenue, or pulled in more revenue, but they can't get money, they can't take money in without spending more than they took in because they have no self-control.
And so the deficit did increase, but that's not a problem with the tax cuts, that's a problem with our spending problem.
tim pool
Now here's how it works federally with federal tax cuts, because there's no external jurisdiction.
It's simple.
If I give $1 to Seamus, he's gotta pay $0.20 to the government.
He now has $0.80.
He then uses that $0.80 to buy a widget from you.
You gotta pay $0.16 on your $0.80.
So, the more money you guys have, the more opportunity for trade, so more tidbits keep getting stripped away and given to the government.
The simple way to put it is, If you tax at 30%, then Seamus only has $0.70.
He can't afford your $0.80 widget anymore.
He doesn't buy it.
They don't get any tax revenue after the first exchange until later on.
So it can slow down or stagnate the market, resulting in less revenue making its way to the government for expenses.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Or my business grows.
We're actually making much more.
I hire more people.
Now there's more payroll taxes being paid to the government.
tim pool
I'm sure there are economists listening right now screaming about all the little things in this world.
seamus coughlin
I know, I know, I know.
But I know that, I mean, the healthier the economy, if you have a healthy enough economy, even if tax rates are lower, revenue is higher because everyone is earning more.
And so even though they're giving a lower percentage of their income to the government, it's actually a larger amount in total.
tim pool
I gotta say, I love how academic we brought this conversation, considering we started with 50 Cent saying F Trump and Chelsea Handler being like, Well, he doesn't want to be 20 Cent.
I'm looping it back because of Lil Pump.
seamus coughlin
What happened with Lil Pump?
Now, 50 Cent wasn't quite able to sway me, but I want to hear what Lil Pump had to say.
tim pool
Lil Pump posted an Instagram photo of him shaking hands with Donald Trump.
seamus coughlin
I don't know if it's real.
tim pool
Is it a real photo?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
Here's the thing.
Lil Pump is one thing.
If Lil Yachty endorses Donald Trump, then there's no way that he's losing.
tim pool
Lil Pump made a video where he was like, It's something like I think I don't know exactly what he said.
I thought he said something like F Joe Biden No way, I'm paying another 30-something percent in taxes Trump 2020 this this matters to all of these artists because Cardi B's to did something similar She's like I'm looking at my taxes.
lydia smith
This is insanity.
How are y'all paying this much in taxes?
Pardon my French.
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
She was talking about how Bernie is her guy.
I don't understand it.
seamus coughlin
Everyone wants the government to pay for everything while still not having to pay more in taxes.
tim pool
Dude, it's really simple.
Listen, all of us are sitting right here.
I would like to vote to take Seamus' tie.
All in favor?
lydia smith
Yep.
ian crossland
I'm not voting this time.
seamus coughlin
Thank you.
And it is your fault.
tim pool
We did it last time.
ian crossland
I was tricked twice.
No longer.
seamus coughlin
I'm going to vote in favor of Seamus because of Keepa's tie.
ian crossland
Can we get... No, I'm not voting for that either.
seamus coughlin
Ian, what are you doing?
ian crossland
I'm staging a protest.
tim pool
Ian, hold on.
ian crossland
Stop, stop.
seamus coughlin
Evil happens when good men fail to act.
ian crossland
Fortunately, you didn't vote so negatively.
tim pool
I would say it's a tie.
I have a solution.
seamus coughlin
I would say it's a tie.
tim pool
I have a solution.
I vote in favor of taking Ian's shirt.
seamus coughlin
Oh, all in favor.
tim pool
All in favor.
unidentified
Sorry Ian.
tim pool
Ian, you lose.
seamus coughlin
I remembered.
I remember it was there for me.
Is this your shirt, Tim?
unidentified
It's your shirt.
No, it's not.
ian crossland
I took it from you.
tim pool
Well, I want it back.
ian crossland
So, how do you guys feel about repealing or paring down income tax?
seamus coughlin
Oh yeah, abolish the income tax.
tim pool
You think abolish the income tax?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
No, I mean, like, that's not something we could do today, but eventually.
I mean, again, theoretically I'm okay with some level of taxation because there are certain government services that need to be paid for, but historically we mostly paid for that with tariffs or, God forbid, sales taxes, but it's not as if an income tax is an absolute necessity for running a government, and you essentially fine people.
I mean, you actually alter people's time preference based on whether or not They have the assurance that they'll be able to keep the money that they're working for, so you can make the economy, and I would argue do make the economy, less productive just by having an income tax.
tim pool
Okay, okay, but haven't the people of Earth already proven they lack the cognitive ability of self-management?
Therefore, we must tax 100% of their income and dictate on their behalf with the AI controlling all of their actions?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course.
How could I forget?
No, we should just hook everyone's brain into a computer and let Mark Zuckerberg run this whole thing.
Jack Dorsey's already running it.
Twitter is the interface for the simulation.
unidentified
We're trying to make the simulation more fair for everyone, and the only way to do that is if conservatives aren't allowed to speak.
tim pool
So we have this image of Jack Dorsey as this, like, hippie guy with a beard who's talking really slow, but I'm just, I'm loving the idea that, like, after, you know, so I sat down with him, we talked, we talked for a little bit before the Rogan podcast, we talked a little bit afterwards, and he very much, you know, is very similar.
I'm just imagining, as soon as he got in the car, he, like, the beard, the beard, no, the beard's fake, and he pulls it off, and he's like, now back to Twitter to take over the world!
He's got like a freaky fake movie accent and like I can do it I imagine Twitter headquarters inside everything's like all of the walls are black metal paneling with red lights everywhere and they all wear these like uniforms and it's just Jack saying like Manipulating people choosing political opinions picking the winners and losers what stories are allowed what aren't?
What if what if?
What if you mentioned Jack Dorsey is already controlling everything?
seamus coughlin
Yeah he is.
tim pool
What if it's literally him?
ian crossland
I kind of love Twitter.
seamus coughlin
What's wrong with you?
You're sick humans.
ian crossland
I got my account in 2008 when I was doing YouTube.
A bunch of us YouTubers were like Twitter, hey, the next new big thing, I was like, I just got Facebook.
I don't want to get a third thing that's the exact same as Facebook.
It's the exact same.
If I'm going to do a text message to my followers, I'll use Facebook.
Don't bother me with the new stuff.
lydia smith
I'll do a group chat.
Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
But I just recently started using Twitter, like a couple months ago, and I love it.
lydia smith
I like it.
tim pool
You know what the best thing about Twitter is?
seamus coughlin
I hate it, but I feel like I can use it.
tim pool
I've learned to love it.
You know why?
lydia smith
I do.
seamus coughlin
Because you're a masochist.
That's called Stockholm Syndrome, Tim.
You like Twitter because you're identifying with your captor.
You're emotionally enslaved.
tim pool
I started paying a bit more attention to Michael Malice's Twitter account.
seamus coughlin
Oh, he's alright.
That's fair.
tim pool
And I've learned from him, because he is the king.
seamus coughlin
He's literally the king of Twitter.
tim pool
When he responds to Donald Trump with, we don't deserve him, I'm like, that's it.
He's figured it out.
So now I don't capitalize letters.
I just tweet.
ian crossland
You don't put commas.
tim pool
I just, I just, I just stopped caring completely.
And I want them like, I figured there's nothing you can tweet without someone's like someone's head exploding.
So I'm like, I'll just, just don't care.
I just, like I tweeted, I tweeted, it'll be really funny if Joe Biden wins.
Cause actually it'll be Kamala.
Like I just don't, I just, whatever.
I just thought of something.
And now I tweeted basically like my shower thoughts.
seamus coughlin
He does.
unidentified
I have a theory about why you get shower thoughts.
seamus coughlin
I know why it is.
ian crossland
There's information in water.
seamus coughlin
I already don't agree with you, Ian.
ian crossland
Hypothetically, if I was crazy, I would say there's information in water.
tim pool
So toilet thoughts.
ian crossland
Yeah, so when you're getting bombarded with all this water, you're getting the information of ages past, seeping into your DNA.
tim pool
We don't live in Breath of the Wild, where the liquid information lands on your tablet.
seamus coughlin
If that's true, then Jack Dorsey's doing a crazy job running this simulation.
lydia smith
Dude, yeah, it's amazing.
I have thought about it, and I know why it is.
It's because we're isolated from tech.
That's all it is.
We're not allowed to hold our own thoughts.
tim pool
Well, people had shower thoughts all the time.
Shower thoughts didn't originate with technology.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, but she's saying, like, I think that you're removed from distractions.
tim pool
I'm distracted.
Look, I'm sitting there at my computer all day, and I'll be reading the news, and I'll just, like, think of something and just tweet it.
Yeah.
No, he gave up.
Interesting.
lydia smith
Maybe he'll try it.
tim pool
Because he doesn't like capitalism.
That's true.
That's horrible.
You know why? Because it used to be like, I remember...
seamus coughlin
Because he doesn't like capitalism.
tim pool
I made a joke.
That's horrible.
No, no, you guys are going to love this.
I made a joke, something about, they said, Greta Thunberg endorses Joe Biden.
And I thought my tweet was very clearly meant to be like, sarcastic or satirical.
I said, no, I think it was.
I think most people got it, but some people didn't.
I said, this is collusion of the highest order.
We must not allow Sweden to get away with this.
Something like that.
And I'm like, Greta Thunberg saying she likes Joe Biden is clearly not.
But I got a bunch of leftists all high-fiving each other and laughing, being like, Tim's so dumb!
He really thinks she's colluding!
Oh, he's so stupid.
And I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm into it.
seamus coughlin
I'm like, it's hilarious.
tim pool
Yeah.
I just, you go for it.
Yeah.
I've tweeted.
I stopped even trying to explain jokes because it's not smart enough to edit.
seamus coughlin
I have a really similar story.
Uh, I tweeted that on the topic of Twitter.
I tweeted Twitter has been utterly destructive for society and Jack refuses to shut it down.
Why?
Because he's made upward of $15,000 running it.
Like as a joke, just like a vast underestimation.
And then I was like, and I was like, actually, I think it might even be twice that, like more than twice that.
And there were one or two people who commented like, I think it's more than $15,000.
That's how I learned to love it.
Yeah.
tim pool
Cause I remember I made a joke a year or so ago and everyone was like, you're so dumb.
And I was like, guys, I'm joking.
No, no, you can't do anything.
It's like joshing around.
No, it's like you put out a tweet and people can't tell it's a joke because sometimes these things don't read through.
There's no point trying to explain it.
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
Just roll with it.
Just go into it.
So my response to people then was like, I just went with it.
I was like, it's collusion!
And then I started accusing Biden of colluding with Kazakhstan because of Borat.
And people were like, these people, they're just like, who?
He's doing it again.
He's so dumb.
And I'm like, I'm into this.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it's a good tactic in some ways because you make some certain number of your opponents look very stupid when they take the bait.
tim pool
That's not it.
If I have a joke, I'll make a joke.
unidentified
No, no.
seamus coughlin
I'm not saying that that's the reason you're doing it, but that is like an added benefit.
Like, wow, these people actually genuinely believe this.
I think most of them probably know it's a joke, but my favorite is when something is obviously a joke.
Because I've seen this happen to other public figures where they'll say something ridiculous intentionally and people will go, Whoa, you really believe that?
And then when they make it clear that they were joking, the response is like, oh, he's playing it off as a joke now.
It's clearly something he meant.
tim pool
Did you see that coyote thing?
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
When Donald Trump was like, the kids are being brought over by the coyotes.
unidentified
We need a wall with fake tunnels painted at it so the coyotes will run into it and be flattened.
tim pool
And then you get all these blue checks.
I'm just imagining they're all sitting around high-fiving each other.
They're like, it's the craziest thing.
I was talking to this guy I know and I was like, dude, he's like a leftist.
And I said, you got to realize, man, all of these people, you understand they're dumb, right?
But they think they're smart.
So they're midwits.
seamus coughlin
Michael Malice talks about this.
lydia smith
Yeah, 100%.
tim pool
I love it.
They think they're smart, and they're like, Trump's so dumb, he thinks dogs are carrying babies.
What a moron.
It's like, do you have Google?
seamus coughlin
The coyotes are not dogs.
tim pool
No, no, no, the crazy thing is- I saw that.
seamus coughlin
I saw someone saying dogs.
tim pool
It's not the first time that's happened.
In 2018, Vox.com had to write a whole article because their audience is too stupid to know what a coyote is.
So they were like, no, Trump didn't mean dogs.
But because they were trying to defend their audience, they're like, but maybe he kind of did.
No, he never meant canines or whatever.
What's the Latin family?
Lupus.
seamus coughlin
And I'm too embarrassed to ask Tim, but what's a coyote?
unidentified
A coyote is a child trafficker.
tim pool
No, no, no.
A coyote is a brown creature that walks on two legs and purchases explosives from the Acme Corporation.
ian crossland
Stupid!
He thought that they were bringing babies over.
tim pool
Can you believe that Trump thought Wild E. Coyote was like chasing a roadrunner with babies?
unidentified
Trump is so dumb.
tim pool
He's so dumb.
ian crossland
Andy Kaufman is one of my idols.
unidentified
We need to fit, we need a bunch of sticks of dynamite to start the cannon.
We need to get me a giant helmet and put me in a cannon to launch me at the coyote.
ian crossland
My problem with satire is that if you're someone in the news or that people trust, if you do satire, I am afraid that it draws your entire body of work into question.
But you're funny as hell.
Thank you.
There's something to humor.
Like, if you weren't funny, you'd be one-sided.
tim pool
I'm willing to bet many of my jokes on Twitter are not funny.
I don't care.
Twitter is my place for shower thoughts.
I'm not a comedian, but I do commentary.
So if I make commentary that's potentially humorous or whatever, I'm doing commentary.
So a lot of people have fallen into this.
So you've got a lot of actual journalists whose job is to be a journalist, but they go on Twitter and they post activism and snarky humor all day.
Now, I understand they shouldn't be doing that.
I do political commentary analysis, and I make jokes in my analysis.
I would say it's a small percentage, a very, very small, where there's, like, sometimes people tell me, like, I watch your video, it's really funny, and I'm like, I'm not doing a bit.
Like, I don't have jokes, I don't script anything, I just give my, like, take on things, and sometimes I'll say something.
That's the same thing with Twitter.
Sometimes I'll just be like, here's a point, and, like, I'm being sarcastic.
ian crossland
People, yeah.
I get like that when I would see news anchors in movies, and I'm like, wait, are they a news anchor or are they an actor?
And then I wonder if they're like Anderson Cooper.
tim pool
You know what really freaked me out was when John McCain was on Saturday Night Live, because he was really good.
He was funny.
I was like, wow.
seamus coughlin
He's actually a good actor.
I remember that.
That was right before the election.
That was his October surprise.
I'm hoping Trump's October surprise is he brings Corn Pop out.
It's too late!
And Corn Pop, Corn Pop tells his half of the story.
unidentified
I need Corn Pop.
seamus coughlin
And it turns out it's completely different.
You watch him, such a bad guy.
Like Joe Biden was sniffing his hair and just being like, just all horribly unprofessional
lifeguard.
tim pool
Wait, that's Trump's October surprise.
unidentified
That's Trump's day, he's like, we have the great, we're bringing out the great man who
needs no introduction, the great Corn Pop.
The final piece of Hunter Biden's laptop.
We like Corn Pop.
seamus coughlin
Then the final piece of Hunter Biden's laptop is like Corn Pop's contact information and they're able to reach out to him and bring him on stage.
lydia smith
Oh man, I love that.
tim pool
You know, to be completely honest, like the weirdest thing about the Corn Pop story is that it's really obvious Joe Biden was terrified of these guys.
Right.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, they got the rusty razor, put it in the barrel, bang him on the cement.
tim pool
Why is Joe Biden telling us a story about the one time a guy threatened him with a knife and he got scared and apologized?
seamus coughlin
A razor.
Well, because he stood out there with a chain, because Bill Wright told him, the mechanic who showed him where all the pool filter is.
Dude, do people like... I took him in and he said, he said, if you don't, you tell, you get that chain that goes across the deep end and say, if you don't get out, I'm going to wrap this around your head.
And if you don't do it, then you can't come back.
And he was right.
And so Joe Biden went out there and he threatened Corn Pop.
He threatened him, but also apologized at the same time.
He's like, if you, I should, I shouldn't have called you Esther Williams, but I'm sorry.
I called you.
tim pool
Is Tucker Carlson doing the Bob Ulinski thing tonight?
I don't know.
What if the whole big reveal is that the secret documents they got was not Hunter Biden collusion.
It was just corn pop photos of him.
He's a friend of the Biden family.
The whole thing was fake.
seamus coughlin
It was a false flag, dude.
tim pool
Biden made the whole story up.
ian crossland
We have got to find Corn Pop.
Dude, he just... Corn Pop was... Searching for Corn Pop.
seamus coughlin
Corn Pop was a good family friend who Biden just threw under the bus.
He was!
And just, like, completely destroyed his reputation.
Oh, another Joe Biden lie.
And now Joe Biden, like, now Corn Pop's life is over.
It's ruined.
He, like, can't get a job doing anything.
tim pool
It's because of Joe.
You wanna be real, though?
I'm willing to bet the Corn Pop story wasn't his story.
For real though, for real though.
lydia smith
He's a plagiarist.
ian crossland
He's a plagiarist.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm willing to bet it happened to his friend.
unidentified
But why is that the story you'd plagiarize?
seamus coughlin
Like, I don't get it.
Because he was like, why am I the first Biden to ever not work in coal mines and go to college?
That's kind of a noble thing to discuss.
tim pool
That's not even true, is it?
seamus coughlin
No, no, no.
That didn't happen.
There was a British politician.
There was a British politician who was like, why is it that I am the first in my family to be college educated?
My ancestors are working the coal mines.
unidentified
And Joe's like, why did my family work in the coal mines, Jack?
And then came up and did.
And I was the first one to get to go to the pool filter.
seamus coughlin
And it was almost word for word.
This wasn't like Joe Biden plagiarizing some pro-democracy, pro-freedom banality you could hear any politician say.
He was drawing from this man's life experience and family history.
But I could understand why, because it was kind of an inspiring story.
Why would you make the corn... I just don't get it.
tim pool
I hear what you're saying, but it's... You see the Johnny Carson bit?
seamus coughlin
Why would he lie about corn pop?
tim pool
You see the Johnny Carson bit from where that went?
We did mention this on the show a couple days ago, whatever.
But it was a big scandal that he was plagiarizing, and so Johnny Carson was like, you know, Joe Biden's had to drop out of the race because he's been caught plagiarizing.
And to calm his staff down, he said, don't worry, there's nothing to fear but fear itself.
lydia smith
Yeah, I remember that.
unidentified
That's fantastic.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
seamus coughlin
That was fourscore and seven years ago, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, something like that.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You ask why did he tell this story, and I agree.
Why did he tell us this story?
But why did he tell the story about the kids playing with his hair in the pool?
unidentified
Oh, that's so gross.
tim pool
What is wrong with that?
seamus coughlin
That was the same day.
That was actually the same day.
tim pool
It was the same day.
unidentified
He's like, I got hairy legs.
And the one thing.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
And like the mad shantz come up and mat him down.
tim pool
Did you ever actually like listen to the full thing?
It's crazy.
seamus coughlin
I animated the corn pop story.
lydia smith
You did, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, you did?
seamus coughlin
So I did.
We had like two and a half minutes.
unidentified
It's amazing.
tim pool
It's like.
I can't take all the credit.
When grandpa is out of it, and you know he's out of it, and he's rambling, and you're just like, what do we do?
And your parents are like, just let him tell us.
seamus coughlin
He's Abe Simpson.
tim pool
Yeah, he really is.
seamus coughlin
He's Abe Simpson.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
Wow.
ian crossland
He's plagiarizing Abe Simpson.
seamus coughlin
It's like his entire persona was lifted off of a Simpsons character.
lydia smith
Gosh, this makes sense.
tim pool
Did you see he accidentally called Trump George?
seamus coughlin
We're going to do four more years of George!
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
Apparently people are saying that George Lopez, I guess, was hosting it.
And so he just mixed up George and Trump.
ian crossland
You're saying it meant George Bush.
tim pool
He didn't say George Bush.
He said George.
Because George Lopez was the host.
So he thought George Lopez was president.
I'm kidding.
He mixed up the names.
But the point is, Jill was sitting next to him going, Oh my gosh, was she really?
seamus coughlin
Dude, behind every great man is a woman.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
You watch these videos, and you see Jill Biden and Joe, and it's very obvious that we are, we are, like, on the line between a, like, you've got Real Candidate here, and you've got Weekend at Biden's here, and you've got that thin line where Jill is standing next to it.
You see that spoof commercial they did?
where it's like a movie trailer where a guy and this woman come downstairs and she's like,
wait a minute, that's our candidate and the election's a week away and it's a dead Joe Biden.
And then they're like, they weekend at Bernie's him, you know.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
ian crossland
I would love to see Jill Biden break down in tears about how sad she is for Joe's.
seamus coughlin
I would feel horrible if that happened, but here's the thing with Jill Biden,
just Joe Biden specifically.
Let's say he is actually in perfect mental health, and it just happens to be the case that he makes these gaps really often.
Let's just say that that is a possibility.
That is still not the person you want leading the free world.
You don't want that person negotiating with foreign leaders.
You don't want that person giving speeches that need to be given in order to inspire the American people.
He's got to be able to string Some number of words together without making a serious error.
tim pool
Could you imagine if he's sitting like, so Trump is negotiating these historic peace deals.
And he's not like, he just, I guess he challenges Putin to a push-up contest, calls him fat.
No, no, no, no.
But he's talking to Putin and he goes, Uh, Vlad, we gotta, uh, do a deal with the 700, uh, trillion, billion, seven, uh, thousand, uh, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh, he's gonna, if, if this dude can't speak and he gets names wrongs, imagine if Putin sitting there and then instead of saying like, we're going to give the U.S., you know, we want you to give the U.S.
X amount of dollars, he accidentally says North Korea.
and then they do it, they give North Korea the money and then, and then, no but then Biden signs a deal and they're
seamus coughlin
like, yeah sign it I don't think that could happen, there's gotta be fail safes
unidentified
there but that's still really funny, that's still hysterical,
lydia smith
Biden gets I will say that I think
seamus coughlin
that would be a great movie that would be a fantastic film, like Joe Biden
lydia smith
I think the corn pop thing is a press, is like a decisive like what will happen if Joe Biden gets elected
He's gonna be like, yeah, I'm just gonna make a big stink and then whoa, wait a minute.
tim pool
I gotta be honest Yeah, wouldn't it be awesome to get some of these by like he's like addressing the nation's I guess it's like an Oval Office address and he's sitting there He's like all confused his eyes half closed and then we just get a rambling grandpa story just like randomly that'd be kind of fun It's like you're sitting there you're stressed out from work and all sudden they're like ladies and gentlemen the president of the United States of America and he's like You know one time I was going down to get a loaf of bread and and then sure enough as corn Bob he comes back And I you know he's got his knife, and I guess what's rambling grandpa story.
unidentified
I was 20 cents.
I remember before They never sliced bread But corn Bob had his knife and so you know I had the bread and and he sliced it for me in the rusty razor He used to put in a rain barrel I don't even know what that means.
seamus coughlin
Don't you remember, Tim?
That's what everyone does on the south side of Chicago, puts razors in a rain barrel.
tim pool
Was this like one of those switch razors or something?
seamus coughlin
I think it was a straight razor, like you shave with.
And you'd bang it on the rain barrel, put it in the rain barrel, bang it on the curb.
What does that mean?
You'd get it rusty.
Joe Biden, I love how he was discussing this.
As if this was something we should just all remember doing He's like, oh yeah, remember you used to put the razor in
unidentified
the water barrel?
seamus coughlin
No, I never did that, Jill. Actually, I don't think anyone listening did that either
tim pool
Can you imagine as he progresses and starts losing his filter and then regresses back to the 1960s?
seamus coughlin
I feel really bad He didn't at first.
He does have a stutter though.
Or he used to when he was a kid.
Like if it actually is so part of me thought like he just had a stutter because that's what the media is not saying
So I was like, no, I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding.
I'm totally kidding. Not well He's not all right now
They're saying he has a stutter when he was a kid Biden was famous for making gaffes for a tire political career
He there was this weird thing that we saw we saw with Clinton
We also saw with Obama where you'd have this like really articulate
Presidential candidate and then their VP was just kind of a bumbling guy who couldn't say things about guys like that
was kind of Al Gore and and I remember my perception even as a kid was that Joe
Biden was just the Al Gore to Barack Obama's Bill Clinton
He's just clumsy and he misspoke quite frequently.
Not that he had some kind of stutter, and the media never said he had a stutter.
And now that he's making these ridiculous gaffes, and, you know, telling stories about a corn pop in his leg hair, I guess they think that's some kind of impediment, some kind of speech impediment, like that's how they're trying to play it off.
There was a woman who said something about this, and some reporter, I'm blanking on who it was, but it was on one of the mainstream media outlets, they're like, you're making fun of him?
How do children in this country feel when they see you making fun of him for his lisp?
tim pool
The issue that concerns me is when Joe Biden called Donald Trump Abraham Lincoln.
It was the weirdest thing to me because he goes, Abraham Lincoln, here's the most racist president we've ever had!
I was like, wait, wait, wait, let me stop.
lydia smith
That could have been funny.
tim pool
My brain tried to very quickly decipher this because the first thing was like, okay, my immediate assumption is Abraham Lincoln over here.
unidentified
He beat George!
tim pool
No, no, no, hold on.
I was like, he said Abraham Lincoln here is the most racist president we've ever had.
But then I'm like, there's no way he would call Trump Abraham Lincoln on stage.
Is he saying Abraham Lincoln is the most racist, like the actual Lincoln?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, no, no, that can't be either.
So, wait, hold on.
He called Trump Abraham Lincoln?
ian crossland
He meant to say this guy talking about Abraham Lincoln is the most racist president we've ever had.
seamus coughlin
Was Trump talking about Abraham Lincoln?
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Okay, then it makes a little more sense.
tim pool
No, no, stop, stop, stop.
Early on, Trump said, I have done more for the black community than perhaps Abraham Lincoln.
unidentified
Which was also a hilarious moment.
it's a very good book for the black community except perhaps it would have
seamus coughlin
taken i've got a lot of the way that which was which was also a whole
tim pool
larry's moment like i was that i was not a bad so what for joe biden i think he
is getting trump by calling him abraham lincoln was not the craziest thing i'd
seamus coughlin
Did Obama get sworn in on the Lincoln Bible?
His whole thing is he wanted to be just like Abe Lincoln?
ian crossland
Yeah, at first.
unidentified
But then he realized he was selling out.
seamus coughlin
He was preceded over the beginnings of a civil war, so I guess they weren't so different.
ian crossland
I wish Obama had gone full Abe Lincoln.
tim pool
I bring this up because of Trump's response to being called Abraham Lincoln.
ian crossland
He loved it.
tim pool
He was just like... He said something like, you just called me Abraham Lincoln.
Where did that come from?
And Biden was like... It's like he had nothing to say.
Like he didn't understand.
And Trump was like, you just called me Abraham Lincoln.
What is this?
What is that?
And like Biden looked crazy.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You look nuts.
ian crossland
I want to pull that up.
I wish we could pull up clips and show them on the show.
Can you pull that up, Jamie?
Give me all the show to do that.
lydia smith
I can look at it, but yeah.
ian crossland
Eventually, I would love to have full stuff up and show them while we're talking about it.
seamus coughlin
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Oh yeah, we normally can, but we're in super chat mode.
lydia smith
We are technically in super chats, guys.
ian crossland
Oh, I want to watch that.
lydia smith
We should switch.
ian crossland
Yeah, let's switch over.
seamus coughlin
I know, I actually really want to see that.
lydia smith
It was so good.
I couldn't believe it.
seamus coughlin
He called Trump Abram Lincoln.
And I called you Jamie.
I'm a horrible friend.
tim pool
I thought that was like, did he just, is Trump going to bump up?
Trump should run a commercial like of Joe Biden calling him Lincoln.
Joe Biden posted it to Twitter.
He clipped it and then he posted Twitter like he's trying to reclaim it.
seamus coughlin
That's right, I saw that.
No, um, yes, actually my girlfriend was just talking about that, how like the clips that Biden was posting on his Twitter still had gaffes in them.
unidentified
Yes.
seamus coughlin
I was like, this is the best you could do?
lydia smith
There's no way to avoid it.
There's not.
tim pool
He called, nobody tweeted out.
Abraham Lincoln over here and I was like, did he think posting a clip of him calling to make sure everybody sees it was a good idea?
Is this guy trying to lose?
No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Joe Biden's traveling around the country, right?
He's going to like three states in the next week.
But he's... But why?
seamus coughlin
He's trying to secede.
He wants to fight.
tim pool
Hold on.
Answer me this.
Why is Joe Biden going to any of these states?
lydia smith
I don't know.
ian crossland
It's a session.
A presidential campaign.
tim pool
But no one shows up and he doesn't speak to anybody.
There's no crowds.
seamus coughlin
Dude, he's in like a Popemobile.
tim pool
Have you seen these things?
seamus coughlin
Completely insulated from everything.
tim pool
He's not speaking.
Did you see that weird video of Cher?
That really weird video?
There's no one in the audience.
And she goes, who do we want to win?
unidentified
And they go, uhhhhhh.
tim pool
They just groan like that.
I'm not kidding.
seamus coughlin
If she had said, who do we want to beat?
They would have been like, Trump!
But they're like, who do we want to win?
They're like, well, technically no one.
But like, we'll take Biden.
tim pool
No, dude, you got to hear it because it's one of the craziest political videos.
Should we pull it up?
unidentified
I want it.
seamus coughlin
Dude, pull the Abe Lincoln thing up, please.
lydia smith
Let me see if I can find it.
tim pool
The Abe Lincoln thing is on my Twitter.
But no, no, seriously, this Cher thing.
Shameless plug tip.
And then she goes, OK, I guess I'll sing and then I'll go.
And the music starts playing and she's singing, but she's standing there like, And then, like, her lip sync was off.
But I kid you not, and she goes, who do we want to win?
seamus coughlin
And she's stuttering.
lydia smith
Oh my god.
tim pool
Are they saying Joe?
ian crossland
Is it like Joe?
tim pool
No, they're just groaning.
unidentified
They're like, are they going on?
seamus coughlin
No, they're saying Joe.
tim pool
I think you gotta find the tweet.
unidentified
I was saying Boo Ernst.
tim pool
Boo Ernst.
Look, look up the... No, no, no, not this, not this.
Google, Google search, um, what is going on here or something.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
And, like, Twitter.
lydia smith
If I can find it in, like, two seconds, we can look at it.
tim pool
Yeah, it was just tweet, like, someone posted a clip.
It was so weird.
What is going on here?
lydia smith
On here.
tim pool
Twitter.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's fantastic.
His base is energized.
ian crossland
This has been the most entertaining month of the year for me.
seamus coughlin
I don't know about you guys.
Well, Biden's base was energized, but then they had to put a lid on it.
ian crossland
So now they're doing... We had to slow it down.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Too much.
tim pool
I've seen some of the weirdest political videos coming out of the Biden campaign.
I have to wonder if they're really trying to lose.
That's why I asked about why is Biden going to Georgia or whatever.
He's not campaigning to anybody.
ian crossland
Why is he going?
tim pool
He walks into a closed room.
There's no one there but a few reporters.
He gives a speech and then he leaves.
He's not firing anybody up.
Either they're trying to lose, or they're so confident in their cheating, they don't need to actually do anything to win.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Well, that's the same thing that happened last time, right?
They just assumed they were gonna get the vote, so they didn't actually do the proper campaigning, like Hillary didn't visit the states she needed to visit because she just assumed she was gonna win.
I would like to think that they're smarter than to make that mistake again, but they did nominate Joe Biden, right?
lydia smith
Dude, why were they thinking?
seamus coughlin
Did we talk about this last time I was on?
I remember having this conversation with somebody, but basically, I think we did talk about this, but for my entire life, the Democrats and left-wing people just found it hilarious that Reagan's mind started to go towards the end of his presidency, and how ridiculous and incompetent Republicans were for having a president who was starting to lose his mind.
It's like, okay, you guys chose Joe Biden to be your candidate when there were other options, when he was clearly not in a place to make any real decisions for himself, let alone the country.
ian crossland
It's a bunch of people with mental problems that put him in that position, I think.
I think a lot of these 60, 70, 80-year-olds that are like, still relevant.
seamus coughlin
Do you think that's it?
They remember Corn Pop too?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Do you think it's just that they're like, dude, I do remember putting razors in the rain barrel.
Like, I did that.
These millennials.
ian crossland
I mean, I thought Bernie Sanders was going to get the nom.
unidentified
Did you really?
seamus coughlin
You are so optimistic.
ian crossland
He had the fire.
seamus coughlin
I don't like Bernie, but that is an optimistic take and I appreciate that about you.
ian crossland
It seemed like he had the voter base and all of a sudden Biden got all this news attention and then they were like, and it's Biden.
seamus coughlin
But Bernie blew it because Bernie basically begged them to not nominate him.
He didn't fight hard enough.
Look what Trump did.
Trump was like, these people are horrible.
They're part of the swamp.
They're monsters.
We're going to drain it.
Get rid of them.
They're screwing you and your family over.
Bernie Sanders would talk about his narrow area where he's very proficient at speaking, which is basically about income inequality and what conditions are like for the working class and how we can help them through his model.
Whenever it came to the other candidates who are actually responsible, in large part, for the problems that working-class people in this country are facing, you'd say, like, oh, well, like, I like this person.
I know they're a decent human.
Like, Trump didn't play that game at all.
He didn't pretend to be friends with them.
And he also said, and this is important, he did not say that he would endorse whoever they nominated.
If they stole it from you last time, And then this time they're asking you if you will endorse the candidate.
unidentified
Nah.
seamus coughlin
If you're not nominated.
You are literally begging them.
You are saying to them, please take this from me.
Steal it from me.
I will endorse whoever you pick instead of me.
And that's what Bernie Sanders did.
So it's his own fault.
tim pool
Bernie sold out.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
We got the tweet.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
I don't know if we can hear it though.
joe biden
I'm the least racist person.
I can't even see the audience because it's so dark.
tim pool
I don't care who's in the audience.
unidentified
I'm the least racist person in this room.
Okay, Vice President Biden, let me ask you very quickly and then I have a follow-up question for you.
joe biden
Abraham Lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history.
He pours fuel on every single racist fire.
That's hysterical!
He started off his campaign coming down the escalator saying he's gonna get rid of those Mexican rapists.
He's banned Muslims because they're Muslims.
He has moved around and made everything worse across the board.
Last time we were on stage here, he said, I told him to stand down and stand ready.
Come on.
This guy is adorable.
lydia smith
The poor boys.
seamus coughlin
Dude, that's hysterical.
tim pool
Also, the poor boys.
seamus coughlin
I didn't watch the entire debate, but I watched the part where Trump said that he was the least racist, and I didn't catch Biden calling him Abe Lincoln.
I must have only been half a minute.
That's hysterical.
Why did I miss that?
And I also love that Trump says he's the least racist person in the room, implying that the people in the audience are more racist than him.
lydia smith
Exactly.
100% more racist than he is.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I love it.
But no, it's hysterical, and Biden's response was fantastic, and Trump did a much better job this time because he just let Biden talk.
He kept interrupting him the first the first time. It's like, no, you just gotta let Biden go.
unidentified
Give him enough rope. Seriously.
ian crossland
I didn't watch it the night of. I watched it the next day and I put the YouTube video
unidentified
on 1.25 speed. So much better. I think what happened with Biden, I just enjoyed watching
lydia smith
Trump's face. I really enjoyed it.
seamus coughlin
The reactions?
lydia smith
That's the least racist.
tim pool
Oh, the end?
No, no, the part where they're banning the fossil fuels and Trump goes, oh?
seamus coughlin
Dude, you know what?
Dude, this would just break the internet and the world, dare I say.
If Trump just did like a, just got a Twitch channel and did a stream.
tim pool
He's banned.
He's banned from Twitch.
Are you serious?
seamus coughlin
Dude, if he just got like, if he just did like the Twitch stream thing with his face as an icon in the corner, just like watching and reacting to like a Joe Biden rally, he's like, Just making his face like, what is he talking about?
unidentified
What is this man?
He's been in government forever.
He's done nothing.
He's used it.
47 years.
Yeah.
47 years, he's done nothing.
seamus coughlin
That would be beautiful.
Dude, you know how many superchats he would get?
He would raise enough money to run his campaign.
He would rake in so much money to win reelection.
ian crossland
If you are listening, make a YouTube channel.
tim pool
You don't get it.
A Twitch.
seamus coughlin
He could use a fake name, like Bonald Brump, and then he'll just use Drumpf.
Yeah, use Drumpf, and then make a Twitch channel, and they won't know, and he'll just delete.
tim pool
What do you think AOC is going to do for her presidential run?
She's gonna be on Twitch taking, you know, bits from Amazon, and she's gonna be doing super chat.
seamus coughlin
What's the one thing you can't say?
I mean, she's good at marketing herself.
I disagree with her on basically everything, but she knows what she's doing.
tim pool
She's got 10 million followers now.
ian crossland
She has a good crew, too.
I think her crew is really the good marketing.
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
I agree.
I think she's just good at generating press, like being a spectacle.
And, you know, what was it?
She recently complained that Trump called her AOC.
She got all offended.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's things like that where, you know, I'll tell you this.
One really important way to get press attention in this political world is to purposefully gaffe.
So AOC says something that's absurd, like, how dare Trump call me AOC?
And then her opponents are like, woo!
Free media.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's the same thing.
People will appreciate a likable idiot over an unlikable genius.
So if you go out there, I'm not necessarily saying AOC's an idiot, right?
She says a lot of stupid stuff.
But if you go out there and you say something really dumb, but you are likable, and AOC, for as much as I disagree with her, she is indeed very likable.
lydia smith
She is, yeah.
seamus coughlin
And so, getting eyes on herself is really good for her brand.
She doesn't have to hide away.
Yeah.
And she's, again, that's why she's doing this, she was doing a Twitch stream where she was playing, what game was it?
lydia smith
I forget.
unidentified
Among Us.
seamus coughlin
Among Us, yeah.
And so, even if she makes these gaffes, people, you know, it's only human, everyone makes mistakes, but she has this factor of likability that I don't see in other politicians, so maybe I'm a little more friendly to her, even if she's clearly wrong about X, Y, and Z.
Whereas, I mean, there have been political leaders in the past who, frankly, I mean, usually they don't get very far, who don't make quite as many mistakes, but they're just like... Ron Paul.
They're boring.
I love Ron Paul.
See, I disagree.
I think Ron Paul was unbelievably charismatic.
tim pool
Really?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, the fact that he was able to get young people as invested in the issues that he got them invested in is really unbelievable.
Like, how do you get college students interested in monetary policy?
And like high school students?
Yeah.
ian crossland
All those movies, man, they made people crazy.
seamus coughlin
That's true, but Ron Paul was also, and here's what's great about him, Ron Paul was the most donated to candidate by combat veterans in all of American history.
And this is also part of why the only real anti-war movement we could ever have in this country would have to be a conservative anti-war movement or a libertarian anti-war movement.
tim pool
Why is that?
seamus coughlin
I think there are a number of reasons.
I think that one thing conservatives have an advantage at when it comes to helping people who have been involved in wars see the error of it or want to adopt a more dovish foreign policy is they can say, look, I agree that all of the things that you believed you were fighting for and were told you were fighting for are good things.
I think it's noble that you believed you were doing the right thing, that you went over there, but like, let me lay out why I think that you were being lied to and why these wars were not actually good for the American people, right?
The right wing can do that.
The right wing can say, you thought you were fighting for our country, you thought you were fighting for our flag, you thought you were fighting for God.
Those are good things to fight for.
But I don't think you were actually fighting for them, I think you were lied to, let me explain that.
Whereas with the left, they're like, the flag and this country and Christianity, these are all stupid things and it's dumb to ever want to fight for them.
Like, their movement is so unwelcoming to veterans who might reject the wars, Later on, which many of them do, I mean, one of my best friends, he fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he's the most anti-war person I've ever met in my entire life.
But he's extremely conservative, and that's one thing he would always complain about, is that every single anti-war movement he would try to get involved with was explicitly left-wing.
Yep.
And so, if we want an anti-war movement, it has to be an anti-war movement that's welcoming to veterans.
And even if the left wants to claim that they are, they're not.
They just aren't, because their values conflict so heavily with theirs.
lydia smith
Amen.
tim pool
Well, there we go.
Should we do the super chat?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
tim pool
We've got a lot of super chats.
But for those that don't know, this is Seamus of Freedom Tunes.
lydia smith
Yeah, there he is.
tim pool
Freedom Tunes on YouTube.
It's funny.
How do you describe it?
Political satire?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I just do like little short political cartoons, punchy political cartoons, sometimes educational stuff, but just mostly goofy.
tim pool
Yeah, that Jack Dorsey one, banning the New York Post story is really great.
seamus coughlin
Thank you.
Thank you.
Please check it out, folks.
Freedom Tunes.
That's O-O-N-S.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah.
tim pool
So Super Chats.
We got Matthew Hammond.
It says Trump 2020 on a bullhorn.
Well, it's taxed when I'm a bullhorn.
So unfortunately.
Let's see.
About time you or a YouTube moderator unshadow banned me from your chat.
What was that all about anyway?
Couldn't even send Super Chats.
I don't know.
lydia smith
we have any moderator right? Who was it that said that?
tim pool
This is uh, Rosananti. So much for free speech Tim. I know I would never. Oh we're
explicitly anti-free speech here in the superchats. Sorry guys. No YouTube is. Like you can't
say certain words. Sorry Do you have Patreon or something?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Do you have Patreon?
Venmo money on there to donate.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's I wouldn't have a train or something.
No, I do have a patron.
Yeah, I've got I've a try on why?
Well, the reason I have patreon is because we tried using subscribe star, but it just was not raising enough money
for us to realistically keep turning a cartoon on out every
month and also all of the other tech platforms like YouTube and
Facebook are in Twitter are just as bad as patreon, but we still use those because it's how we can get our message out.
So yeah patreon.com freedom tunes or paypal.me freedom tunes if you want to donate to what we're making
I do have a Venmo. It's it's like my personal Venmo. I don't think it would hurt if I threw it out there
tim pool
I don't remember the name of the account. Well, I got a quick question. Mr. Sparky says it's from 8 o'clock
ACB got confirmed 52 to 46 Who who didn't vote?
lydia smith
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
Is it AOC?
You mean ACB?
unidentified
Did you say?
lydia smith
I see AOC.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I'm just stupid as it turns out.
Okay, all right.
So my Venmo is at Seamus.
My name is horribly difficult to pronounce and spell.
So it's S-E-A-M-U-S-C-O-U-G-H-L-I-N.
If you want to support the cartoons.
Seamus Coughlin.
Yeah, it's based out of Seamus Dash Coughlin.
Actually, right now we are doing decent on ad revenue, which is really uncommon.
We've had a great past couple of months, but the ad revenue is really unreliable and it'll go up and down, so crowdfunding is mostly what we can depend upon for something sturdy.
So yeah, if you want to help us make more, please donate, especially because we do really short videos.
Often times.
And YouTube, the two things that YouTube doesn't like are like conservative content and animated content.
And I do both.
tim pool
And short content.
seamus coughlin
And short content, yeah.
And I do, I do, that's what I do.
tim pool
I have, I have, I have good news that'll cheer you up.
On election night, we're going to be serving Jill Biden's famous, famous chicken parmesan.
seamus coughlin
I'm there.
I was debating showing up.
tim pool
Do it.
We're gonna make it.
So she put out this tweet.
She's like, her famous recipe for chicken parmesan or whatever.
It's basically just chicken parmesan.
We're gonna make it.
And it works.
It works no matter who wins the night.
I know we're not gonna know who the winner is, but if Biden wins, then you have to eat it unhappily.
Like, we're eating Biden's.
But if Trump wins, you get to gloatingly eat the chicken parmesan.
seamus coughlin
It's like eating out of your Jeb guacamole bowl.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
seamus coughlin
Let me make sure I'm not being fake news.
Hashtag fake news right now because I but I remember seeing this and I'm pretty sure I would not have said it unless I was I'll buy a bunch of them.
unidentified
We're gonna we'll serve guacamole out of those jeb balls, man Yeah, yeah, Jeb Guacamole Bowl.
lydia smith
Weird menu, but okay.
seamus coughlin
Jeb Guacamole Bowl.
This is from Amazon.com.
I think they're in short supply because I don't know if you guys know, Jeb's campaign has been suspended.
But I know, I know.
Here's how Jeb can still win.
At Amazon, we have official Jeb Bush 2016 Guac Bowl Guacamole.
Yeah, so you can... They're gonna sell out.
tim pool
Everyone's buying them right now.
Everyone's buying them right now.
seamus coughlin
Isn't it interesting though, I just pulled up this article, how even left-wing platforms and publications will still sometimes promote a conservative if they're establishment enough.
That's the beauty of capitalism.
Wait, wait, wait.
This is an NPR article on revealing Jeb's secret guacamole recipe.
tim pool
I need to stop you.
I think you may have just made a terrible mistake, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
What did I do?
tim pool
You see, now we've got 40,000 or so people watching.
And they're all gonna go buy these guacamole balls.
All done.
And Jeb is going to resurrect at the very last minute.
That was the real October surprise.
seamus coughlin
That's the 2020 election.
unidentified
He sells 40,000 guacamole balls.
I know the 2024 candidates.
tim pool
He buys a billboard, you don't want Biden, you don't want Trump, you want Jeb.
And then people are just like, I'll take it.
unidentified
I want it.
tim pool
And that's how you get Jeb.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I honestly, I'm about, look, if that happened, so be it.
If Jeb wins because of me, just at the last moment, he's like, you know what, maybe I'm going to do this.
tim pool
I sold so many guacamole bowls, I was able to buy all the ad space, the YouTube masthead, just the most expensive real estate and advertising.
And it's all, all of it is is that meme of him going like, ah, the country is all Jeb.
ian crossland
PR for Jeb for the next X amount of years going forward, a banner out of him eating that guac.
That's all I need.
Just happily eating guac.
tim pool
Am I legally, like, can I, can I, can I post a Jeb ad?
Like, am I allowed to do that?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure you are, right?
Didn't we just discuss this earlier?
tim pool
Can I just waste money and get a billboard of Jeb?
Just like, Jeb!
Jeb Guacamole Bowls.
seamus coughlin
This is not legal advice, right?
But we were just discussing this earlier, how when it comes to campaign finance laws, there's really no law, as far as I'm aware, against using your platform to promote a particular candidate.
There aren't any hoops you have to jump through to do that, so maybe, Tim.
I mean, frankly, I think we just did a great job promoting Jeb Bush right now.
lydia smith
I would say so.
tim pool
I really do hope that by the time we finish I can still pick up some of those guacamole bowls.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm looking right now like anxiously.
tim pool
I should have got one.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I just created a Jeb Bush guacamole bowl bubble.
ian crossland
Right before the election.
tim pool
There's gonna be a BuzzFeed article.
Why is the price of the Jeb Bull guacamole bowl spiking?
It's at $3,000.
lydia smith
I have bad news.
seamus coughlin
Like Bitcoin?
lydia smith
Right now I'm mostly seeing on Redbubble, I'm seeing things like t-shirts.
unidentified
No!
lydia smith
I'm seeing like stickers.
So I don't see the actual bulls.
seamus coughlin
I saw one on Amazon.
Maybe you're just not looking hard enough.
tim pool
Maybe someone bought it.
lydia smith
Possibly.
That's possible.
tim pool
Maybe there was one left.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
And now it's worth a million dollars.
seamus coughlin
No!
Customer oh these this is customer review, so I don't know if these are actually and these reviews are not that great There's one five star review that says fantastic bowl, and there's a two star that says man low energy Gosh, I love it!
unidentified
Alright, alright.
tim pool
Now that we've gotten our guacamole bowl fixed, let's read some Super Chats.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you're right.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
David Nash says, Hey Tim, you need to get Maura Moynihan on.
She's a journalist with the Epoch Times.
She has an astonishing body of expert knowledge, especially China's global strategy history read.
Tibet Uyghurs would be superb guests and I've made her aware of you.
Stay frosty, brother.
Interesting.
We'll definitely look into it.
ian crossland
Is it Epoch or Epic?
Epic.
Epic Times?
lydia smith
Epic Times.
seamus coughlin
They always talk about China, right?
They're the people who do the ads before every single YouTube video.
They're like, look at this!
Let me show you this newspaper about what China's doing.
It's like, look, this is really sick!
And then he pulls out his very hip.
tim pool
They used to be considered credible by NewsGuard, and then NewsGuard changed because they said, it was really funny, there was one story they did about a Trump rally, and they said they didn't include any negative information about it, therefore they're pro-Trump, and not disclosing that they're pro-Trump, therefore they're not credible.
I kid you not.
seamus coughlin
Sounds pretty logical to me.
tim pool
Just reported on the rally that it existed.
That's crazy, man.
ian crossland
Oh, I'd love to have a China person on.
What are you saying right now?
seamus coughlin
You know what I was going to say.
lydia smith
What's going on?
tim pool
Cancel him!
ian crossland
I was going to say, this is... Just to talk about it, because I need more information.
unidentified
You mean a pro-China, pro-Chinese human expert?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
All right, all right.
lydia smith
Let's survive super chats here.
tim pool
Samuel Eddie says, time-traveling Tim Poole visits his younger self, telling him he's voting for Trump.
Young Tim's reaction?
Young Tim's reaction, present Tim's reason and response, then an older Tim Pool from farther in the future and he sounds like Alex Jones.
lydia smith
Yep.
We're now in the Alex Jones phase.
unidentified
There's always something to look forward to, Tim.
tim pool
Kid Truck says, just voted Saturday.
I know you might not relate, Tim, but it felt good to press the button for Trump.
I was too young to vote in 2016.
Also, have you seen the DonaldTrump.watch website?
Very scary.
I did.
seamus coughlin
That's a good idea.
tim pool
That's probably really safe.
Did it to Biden?
That would be harassment, Tim.
That's wrong.
all Trump's donors and plotted on a map so you can see where they all live.
lydia smith
Yeah I don't like that.
seamus coughlin
That's a good idea.
That's probably really safe.
tim pool
So what if someone did it to Biden?
You could do the same thing.
seamus coughlin
Did it to Biden?
tim pool
I think...
seamus coughlin
That would be harassment Tim.
tim pool
That's wrong.
But hold on.
seamus coughlin
That would be wrong.
tim pool
But, right?
Think about what would happen if someone made Biden watch, Biden dot watch.
The media would go insane, right?
And then wouldn't it be weird that the media would be like, oh, how could they do this?
It's like, Donald Trump watch exists too.
How is that any different?
The media would clearly freak out over the Biden thing.
I used to watch CNN all the time.
Trump thinks, staring everyone in the face.
I think a lot of that double standard has slapped people in the face since 2016.
Like the obvious lies, just ridiculously obvious lies.
I had a friend tell me recently that people in their family, you don't even watch mainstream news anymore because it's
all just obvious lies.
seamus coughlin
Good for them.
tim pool
I know a lot of people like that in the Chicagoland area.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The weirdest thing is, you know, I used to watch, I used to watch CNN all the time.
I used to have CNN on all the time about a year and a half ago, and it started getting worse and worse.
And I think it was around the time that there was like a storm was coming.
There were like riots happening in some country.
And then CNN was just like, well, Donald Trump.
And I was like, okay, this is getting weird.
Like I can't turn on Fox and Fox actually had the news.
And so then I was like, the CNN challenge, you know, turn on news and see if you can find it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well it's interesting how biases really manifest.
Fox News will give you a very conservative spin, not like a super conservative spin, but like an establishment conservative spin on a story.
CNN will just straight up not tell you the story.
tim pool
Right.
So, uh, Karma and Kerosene says, Tim, come check out our band on YouTube.
We're called Karma and Kerosene.
We write heavy guitar music with pro-liberty, anti-authoritarian themes.
We're trying to make American music great again.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Well, I have, uh, I have some, some big news.
I think we're like less than a, we're, yeah, I think I'm like five days away from releasing my music video.
lydia smith
Oh man, I'm so excited.
tim pool
I can't believe how good it sounds because I did not think I was that good at music, but once the producers go through it and like, you know, so I did the guitar, the vocals, and I wrote the story and the lyrics and everything.
The video is incredible.
I'm so excited for this.
seamus coughlin
And I actually, I asked to help with the video and Tim slapped me in the head.
lydia smith
It's true.
I watched.
tim pool
Just square across the face.
seamus coughlin
He called me several, several expletives.
tim pool
And racial slurs.
seamus coughlin
And it was just horrible things.
Yeah, just all these anti-Irish slurs.
lydia smith
It's true.
seamus coughlin
And I've never asked to work with Tim again.
Frankly, I didn't even want to be here.
tim pool
The way I see it is you're way more Irish than I am, so it's kind of like I take some damage in using the slurs, but you take more, so it's like acceptable losses.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
I'm used to it.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Mr. Sparky says Clarence Thomas is going to swear in Amy Coney Barrett tonight.
seamus coughlin
I love it.
Yeah, I saw that.
unidentified
Wow!
seamus coughlin
Talk about owning libs, baby!
lydia smith
Oh, beautiful!
seamus coughlin
That's hysterical.
Good ol' Clarence Thomas.
He was educated by Catholic nuns in Savannah, Georgia.
lydia smith
That's my kind of man.
seamus coughlin
Both of the theocrats of the papal states of America are getting together to strip us of our religious freedom and turn this country into a Handmaid's Tale is what's happening right now, Timothy.
tim pool
Have you noticed the people who think that originalism means they want us to live in the 18th century?
seamus coughlin
That is an Amish thing.
tim pool
No, they think originalism, like there's people tweeting like, if perhaps if you think we should live, you know, according to the Constitution, you think that we should all, you know, wear powdered wigs.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Well, no, that's why 50 Cent is supporting Trump, because 50 Cent was worth a lot more back then.
tim pool
Right.
seamus coughlin
He has much more purchasing power and he likes ACB.
Alright, alright.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
tim pool
Keckman says, Tim, ACB has been confirmed.
Yes.
I feel calmer now that she is in, just in case the election is contested now.
Now I know you might not be so open to this, but please, if you can, can you tweet at Trump and have him for a podcast or Shapiro or Peterson?
I would love to have any one of the three.
seamus coughlin
I could do all three of those voices.
tim pool
Trump's not coming in.
lydia smith
I have already said that I want Donald Trump on for dinner.
seamus coughlin
You should, why not?
You're the biggest political YouTuber, or biggest explicitly political YouTuber.
tim pool
I think, I don't know exactly who is, but I had over a hundred million views in one month.
seamus coughlin
Well we talked about this, like Joe Rogan is the biggest, but he's not like, he talks about everything.
Like in terms of people just focusing on politics, you probably do have the largest presence on YouTube.
tim pool
I don't know who is the biggest, but I don't know very many who get over 100 million.
ian crossland
Dude, you're one of the hugest in the world.
unidentified
First of all, I could just upload a YouTube channel with my cell phone and it would be better.
tim pool
I'm bigger than Vice News.
One of my channels is bigger than Vice.
unidentified
That's crazy.
ian crossland
And Donald Trump Jr.
follows you.
Does he follow you on Twitter?
Yeah, you could probably hit him up.
It'd be awesome to get him on the show.
seamus coughlin
You should just tweet my videos at him.
tim pool
Oh, maybe Don Jr., for sure.
seamus coughlin
Maybe Don Jr.
tim pool
would be down to come and hang out.
That would be fun.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, why not?
unidentified
I bet he would.
tim pool
We're gonna do a really big show on election night where we're gonna have the cameras turned in just like an open format, and we're gonna have like 20 or 30 past guests and different people just showing up.
seamus coughlin
I need to get in shape.
tim pool
Yeah, we gotta start working out how that happens.
And we're gonna serve, we really are going to be serving Jill Biden's chicken parmesan.
unidentified
I'm not kidding.
tim pool
I'm gonna make pizza.
seamus coughlin
Who's cooking that?
Is it gonna be vegan, Lydia?
tim pool
We are gonna make a vegan version.
ian crossland
A couple of vegan pizzas.
tim pool
You're mad.
unidentified
I'm angry.
seamus coughlin
What's happened to this country?
Whoever eats the vegan stuff, I know they're voting for Biden.
tim pool
No, Adam's voting for Trump.
seamus coughlin
I know, I'm just joshing around.
tim pool
We got vegans out here.
We got vegans here for Trump.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
You know it's bad when the vegans are voting for Trump, man.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
Trump's the real deal.
tim pool
I thought it was bad when the skateboarders were voting for Trump.
I was deep down, like, I was worried.
I'm like, oh, man, are all these skateboarders going to be super anti-Trump?
Because I want to invite them out to skate my mini-rant.
No, they're all pro-Trump.
seamus coughlin
That's really funny.
tim pool
It's creepy how pro-Trump they are.
seamus coughlin
I was talking to this girl a while ago, and she's talking about, like, her neighborhood in Georgia, in Savannah.
And she's like, she's kind of lamenting.
She's like, yeah, we're not like, Favorites change and like all these like vegans are moving in and I was like, I was like is vegan a dog whistle for white people?
Like is that what you're saying?
She's like, yes, she said yes.
She's like, yeah, you caught me.
tim pool
Alright, I got a super chat.
The other white nerd says, hey Tim, I can't cover the full $500 Seamus owes you for the Freedom Tomb, but hope this helps.
Also check out Adam Lichman's 13 keys.
He predicted Biden.
But after the peace deals, let me see.
There's a one out of two here.
Where's the other half of that?
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
I don't know where the other half is.
lydia smith
Make Seamus mine.
tim pool
Anyway, I will say, that's right Seamus, you've never paid me that money you owe me.
seamus coughlin
Hold on, here's the thing.
I've given you more than that value back in terms of my presence in your life.
I'm a good friend.
I'm a ray of sunshine that you're privileged to deal with.
lydia smith
I'm gonna need to see receipts for that.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
seamus coughlin
That's fair.
Literally all I've done is just sponge off of Tim.
I come here, I crash on his couch, I eat his vegan pizza.
tim pool
We did have a vegan pizza earlier.
seamus coughlin
Why would you tell people I did that?
I straight up ate vegan pizza and I'm sorry mom and dad.
I know you didn't want my life to become this.
tim pool
We bought these things from the store that are called Diarritos.
seamus coughlin
And I said, is that Olestra?
Is that those Olestra chips?
tim pool
Yeah.
Hold on.
seamus coughlin
That's disgusting.
tim pool
Stop.
Stop being rude.
Don't be rude.
unidentified
Be rude.
tim pool
It's a vegan cheese called Daiya cheese.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And they sell Daiya cheese burritos.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
So we call them Daiya-ritos.
lydia smith
Terribly named.
seamus coughlin
Really poorly named.
tim pool
Daiya-ritos.
They're delicious.
It's very good.
lydia smith
I hate the name so much.
I make the joke every time, you guys.
Don't worry.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
What are these people in the super chat talking about now?
Oh, we got a ton of super chats.
This is crazy.
lydia smith
Thank you guys so much.
seamus coughlin
There's your 50 bucks, Tim.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
ian crossland
I love you.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Judge Wade says, we know that universities are incredibly corrupt and have bloated administration and social justice programs.
I support student loan forgiveness whereby the schools has to pay the wasted tuition back to the lenders.
seamus coughlin
Yes!
And aren't a lot of these universities really just hedge funds disguised as colleges?
Like they invest all of this extra money and then they sort of have an academic infrastructure
on top of it but they mostly just fill all their positions with, like they create a bunch
of administrative positions and none of it goes towards educating the students.
So they probably, a lot of those institutions probably have the money.
That's all I'm saying.
Maybe, no, I know I can't actually say that with certainty.
I haven't seen the figures, but I'm still fine with it.
If anyone suffers, it should be them.
tim pool
Someone has said Ian is incorrect.
I don't think I'm going to pronounce your name correctly.
Dee Zochitl.
lydia smith
Did I pronounce it?
ian crossland
Oh, Dee Zochitl, okay.
tim pool
Uh, Ian is incorrect.
President Clinton signed the 1998 HEA where students cannot discharge student loans in bankruptcy.
seamus coughlin
Ian?
Yeah, Ian.
tim pool
How dare you disparage the good name of George W. Bush?
seamus coughlin
I told you I didn't sign that bill.
ian crossland
I never did that.
seamus coughlin
That wasn't true.
That was a guy before me.
unidentified
I wouldn't do that.
seamus coughlin
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
Okay, but now do Bill Clinton laughing about it.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Like gloating that he did it.
unidentified
Maybe I did shine it.
tim pool
You know what I love about Family Guy?
When they made Clinton like a sexual deviant.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they just made him weird.
Yeah, they made him one.
lydia smith
They made him weird.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that wasn't him at all.
They really pushed into it.
Yeah, of course.
So there was the one episode the other day... Oh man, I don't even wanna... I can't even go there.
tim pool
I'm gonna say what happened.
So it's the one where it's Halloween and it's Meg and Chris are in costumes where you can't see their faces.
So they're doing Seven Minutes in Heaven.
And then they're like, what are they doing?
And then, you know, it turns out Meg and Chris, brother and sister, are hooking up in the closet because they couldn't see.
And then they're all screaming like, what have we done?
And then Bill Clinton runs in and goes, oh, I guess we're all getting it on this one.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
seamus coughlin
Oh no.
lydia smith
Okay, next thing.
Next thing.
tim pool
Next big super chat.
Graphon Tyrell says, here's to a bountiful salt harvest.
Hashtag spin the UFO.
Well, I've got bad news.
But I've got good news.
There's no UFO.
But on the way are floating potted plants.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
What?
unidentified
For real?
seamus coughlin
On the way to what?
tim pool
On the way here.
ian crossland
We have multiple air blowers so we can all spin.
seamus coughlin
I'm so stupid.
I'm so stupid that when he said on the way are spinning plants I was like, you know, like I didn't see anyone I was on the way here They'll be here soon.
lydia smith
You didn't tell me I'm crushed.
ian crossland
I'm so excited.
seamus coughlin
I want to get one for my mom That looks pretty dark.
tim pool
Yeah, and like I guess you put you know, like wheat grass in it or something Oh, maybe we can put like a big flower and it just spins I wonder what the plant like goes through when you're spinning it around like crazy.
seamus coughlin
They say that's good for plants spinning them Yeah, because that's what they do in nature I was gonna say, this is true.
tim pool
I once see a rose going about a thousand RPMs once.
seamus coughlin
It's like took off.
Yeah, exactly.
That's how they pollinate, dude.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, it's true, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
seamus coughlin
Could you imagine if flowers did that?
unidentified
Just walking around outside and they're spinning and then shooting in the air.
tim pool
You have to watch out because they launch.
unidentified
Oh!
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I love it.
lydia smith
I need to live in this world.
ian crossland
I can't imagine that.
lydia smith
Here we go.
tim pool
Darth Starbucks says, maybe the solution to money in politics is educating people to be smart about basic political manipulation and the age-old P.T.
Barnum tricks that still work today.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing, I don't know if we need a population where everyone is really well-educated, we just need a population of people who are virtuous, can work for themselves and provide for themselves and their families and want to.
ian crossland
And that's a form of education.
You gotta teach them when they're young.
seamus coughlin
That's true, you have to learn early.
tim pool
What if we had a culture of people who took whatever they wanted whenever they wanted and didn't have any morals, so they were totally willing to just kill and steal?
seamus coughlin
That's actually a good idea.
tim pool
Everyone just went around, maybe everybody would go around wearing leathers with battle axes and just take from whoever.
seamus coughlin
That would make me very mad.
tim pool
And then all that would be left are, like, super ultra-ripped, seven-foot-tall dudes roaming the earth, taking what they want.
lydia smith
Oh, make you pretty mad?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Maximally angry.
lydia smith
Yeah, maximally angry.
Correct.
unidentified
Hungry.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
lydia smith
Right, okay.
ian crossland
Brawny.
tim pool
Justin W. says, Hey Tim, my first baby daughter is due in December.
seamus coughlin
God bless him.
tim pool
And the top recommended baby book on Amazon for my baby registry was Anti-Racist Baby.
unidentified
Good!
seamus coughlin
Good!
Even better.
tim pool
I won't be buying any baby books from Amazon.
Why?
Do you want to have a racist baby?
lydia smith
Well, come on, man.
seamus coughlin
First of all, it is not enough for your baby to not be racist.
Your baby needs to be anti-racist.
tim pool
Actively anti-racist.
seamus coughlin
Actively anti-racist baby.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
Joe Jorgensen for the win.
tim pool
That's right.
lydia smith
True libertarianism.
tim pool
Wiggles says, removing student loan interest removes any incentive to pay off the loan.
How about applying all of your federal income tax towards the student loan?
That lowers the debt burden and lowers the government incentive to subsidize colleges.
seamus coughlin
No, I don't think I will.
ian crossland
I'll fine them for being late on their payments and not undo that.
tim pool
Yes, and you can also just garnish their wages if they're not paying.
So your interest is gone, and if you can't pay when you get a job, we garnish your wages.
ian crossland
What was the second part that he said as the other option?
tim pool
Having your federal income tax go to the student loan, lowering the debt burden, and lowers government incentive to subsidize colleges.
seamus coughlin
No, because then what happens is a bunch of people who decided not to go to college or went to trade school or went to community college so that they could save money are going to be burdened with a higher income tax because they have to pay off other people's debt.
That actually wouldn't be the right solution.
tim pool
Here we go.
Stevie B says, Target smart and RCP useless.
Dem versus Republican cancel each other out.
Look at independent section in poll.
Trump to lose, Wisconsin and Michigan.
Trump barely wins, Florida and North Carolina.
PA unclear.
seamus coughlin
That's fascinating.
tim pool
Look, man, the polls are insanely pro-Biden.
But could you imagine a Biden presidency?
unidentified
Kind of.
tim pool
It would be great.
seamus coughlin
He would end racism.
tim pool
Yeah.
He would forget where he was.
He'd be funny.
lydia smith
He'd be really funny.
seamus coughlin
Forward thinking.
ian crossland
Then Cenk Uygur would start freaking out.
seamus coughlin
He would find another excuse used to go to war.
tim pool
I gotta say though, isn't Joe Biden disqualified because he announced he was running for the
Senate?
Twice?
lydia smith
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, he did.
I wonder if there's like, could you imagine if, like hold on, could you imagine Joe Biden
wins but then Trump finds some obscure loophole where because Joe Biden accidentally said
he was running for Senate, he disqualified himself from running for President and then
Trump wins by default.
ian crossland
By the way, I'm a Scottish Lord.
I might've told you, I just mentioned, I bought some land in Scotland.
You can buy like 10, 10 square feet or a hundred square feet of land.
And then maybe you can be an official Lord of Scotland.
You can get one square foot and become a Scottish Lord.
But I think if you hold a title in a foreign country, you can't run for office in the US.
So I might have to give away the land at some point.
seamus coughlin
Or give it to, just, just annex it for the United States.
And then you'll get elected.
You've already gained more land for this country.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Here we go, Tom M. says, I think polls are off for two reasons.
Definition of likely voter no longer valid.
Models aren't correct, i.e.
Trump voters crawling over glass.
Remember the sliding bar model you covered?
A couple percent can cause landslides.
I'm gonna tell you something.
I voted.
unidentified
Me too!
tim pool
I voted.
ian crossland
I wanted to.
tim pool
I voted Republican, Republican Congress, President, Senate.
For the first time in my life.
And then for, there was like something on it about like teachers, I guess.
I just wrote in Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and I wrote in Ian.
I don't know what it is, so I'm not voting for people I don't know them.
And I did know the Republican.
And I'll tell you this, man.
I have friends and family members who grew up Chicago, Chicago Democrat, hate the Republicans, voting Republican.
Me too.
And if you have gotten me to the point where I could make a video complaining about Democrats and still be like, but I'm not voting for Trump, to finally be like, okay, fine, I'll vote for Trump, and you got Johnny Rotten doing it?
And you see these videos of like this young green haired woman who gets in her car and she's like, F it, why not?
I voted Trump.
unidentified
Wow.
on viral thinking about her yesterday i think that's the green hair vote
seamus coughlin
uh... yet the green hair vote will know and this is something i noticed myself
i mean back in twenty sixteen i wasn't a big fan of trump he kinda scared me i
thought i don't know if he's actually gonna be good pro-life president but
look it was him or hillary the supreme court's really important so i very
reluctantly voted for him. But it's funny because so often I remember hearing from
left-wing people, I voted enthusiastically for Obama the first
time and reluctantly the second time. I feel the exact opposite. I voted
reluctantly for Trump the first time. I am voting enthusiastically for him the
tim pool
second time. John Marafa says Walter Mondale promised to raise taxes in 1984
and lost in a 49 state landslide to Ronald Reagan.
seamus coughlin
That's right, and all of the polls said that Reagan was going to lose.
tim pool
Really?
seamus coughlin
Yes.
Wow.
The entirety, I don't know about all the polls, but I know that the mainstream media was basically painting it to suggest that Donald, or I'm sorry, that Ronald Reagan was going to lose the election.
And then he won.
It was a landslide.
ian crossland
Could you imagine, they're both populist actors.
tim pool
Trump uses Reagan's slogan.
ian crossland
It's the make America great again.
seamus coughlin
And then Biden tried to do like a basically the same slogan but more clunky build back
back, which is the same thing.
And I saw one I saw one sign for Biden and I'm not sure if it's one of his campaign's
official slogans or if it was just the one that the artist made, but it was like, restore
the soul of our nation.
I was like, yeah, make America great again.
Like, it's literally the exact same thing.
tim pool
Could you imagine if we see, like, the polls being all wrong?
Dude, look, I tell you what, there's one reason I want Trump to win in the media capacity.
I want comeuppance.
I want the American people to be like, what is wrong with these people?
Because the first time, it's Fool Me Once, we say, well the media got it wrong, they made a mistake, we're gonna watch them.
Then they got Russia wrong, they got Ukraine wrong.
seamus coughlin
They apologized for that though, Tim.
tim pool
No, listen.
seamus coughlin
I'm kidding.
tim pool
I want the polls to be like Biden up 20, and then Donald Trump wins 49 states.
That'd be awesome.
And then everyone looks at the media and screams, what is wrong with you?
Maybe.
seamus coughlin
And we had a smaller version of that in 2016.
We did.
I'd like to see a reboot on a much larger scale.
tim pool
A lot of people forgive the media for this.
Now you got Nate Silver who's like... They've forgiven worse.
Nate Silver tweets, it's really bad that I already know what Trafalgar Group is going to say before I even click the link.
Because Trafalgar predicted a Trump victory.
He's like, I don't know what they're doing, but I know what they're going to say.
And it's funny, because I'm like, I already know what you're going to say when I click your link, 538.
You're like, Trump is losing by 50 billion points.
And then I open Rasmussen, and it could go either way.
Rasmussen, some days, like, he's doing good.
He's nice.
You know, they do the daily tracking thing, and it goes up and down.
I don't trust 538, because everything they say is entirely predictable.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
tim pool
It's like, I know exactly.
You know what's really funny?
There was an article.
Apparently FiveThirtyEight has one of their forecast models showing Trump winning California, but losing the Electoral College.
unidentified
It's like their models are insane.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing.
I made this decision in 2016 that I was just totally out of the business of making any prediction about anything relevant to Donald Trump.
But had you asked me a year and a half ago I would have said like yeah I think Trump's gonna win like I think he's got has in the bag this I'm actually not sure you know think things have changed so much it's kind of I feel like it's kind of close right now yeah I'm actually excited like I don't it's there's actually like this is not in the bag for either of them I'd be Yeah, I would be very sad if Biden won, but it's hard for me to say that I would be entirely shocked.
I don't know.
And they could steal it too.
Because most people I know, most people in my circles, and most people who I just deal with...
online yeah are are voting for trump but that could just be my own very biased
circle i don't really know like outside of that a lot of people are really
anger is trump and fed up with them and they've been convinced that all the
social instability were experiencing right now as a result of his presidency
which i disagree with but they see it that way so i could actually see him
losing because of that but i don't agree but it's a possibility
tim pool
it's hard for me to believe all the polls are in the wrong to be honest
Like, these are serious.
These are seven points off.
Like, this is insane for all these polls to be wrong.
But we have several polls saying Trump's winning.
Democracy Institute, Trafalgar Group, Rasmussen.
seamus coughlin
And these are not, like, pro-Trump organizations, or are they?
tim pool
So Trafalgar Group got Trump right in 2016.
And now they're saying these polls are missing the shy Trump voter, which is going to swing it for Trump.
Democracy Institute Sunday Express was British.
So it's like if we've got some poll saying he's going to win, is it stupid to just pick the polls you like?
That's what people are doing.
I'll tell you, man.
It's the economy, stupid.
Trump is still winning the polling on the economy.
And you mean to tell me that for all of... Listen.
If I told you, you go to the average person and say, we're gonna put a guy across the street from you, who whenever you walk out your door he yells random insults, like moron, fatty, fat pig.
But, we're also gonna give you 500 bucks a month in cash money.
Yeah, I'll take that.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, they're gonna be like... And he doesn't challenge you to do push-ups and sniff your kid.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I mean, like, would you be willing to have a guy screaming at you every time you leave
your house if it meant you got cash every month?
seamus coughlin
Well, here's the thing.
I'd laugh.
He's not screaming at me.
He's screaming at people who don't like me.
Well, he's like screaming at the media for the most part.
He's like yelling at people who view us with contempt.
Would you accept?
tim pool
Wouldn't bother me all that much.
Imagine your toilet breaks.
And it's been broken for a long time.
You're really upset.
And the plumbers you hired aren't fixing it.
And you're like, okay, I'm hiring a different guy.
So you hire a different guy.
He comes in.
He's overweight.
He smells bad.
His butt crack's popping out.
And he keeps swearing and insulting you like, your dog is so dumb!
unidentified
What an ugly dog.
tim pool
And then he fixes your toilet.
And he's fixing it and you're like, wow, he's doing a great job.
It's like it's starting to work.
Our plumbing's never been this good ever.
And then the other plumbers are outside screaming at you, insulting you, saying you're stupid for hiring this guy.
Don't hire him.
Fire him.
Hire us again.
And you're like, listen, man, this guy's in my house.
He won't shut up.
It's really annoying me.
But those people didn't fix anything.
ian crossland
The truth is, I would look for a third plumber.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
But if, like, we had the best economy in generations.
It was the best numbers of our lives.
seamus coughlin
I don't agree.
ian crossland
I'm the best plumber.
And I'm not even going to charge.
I'll give you a discount.
Actually, now we're talking.
A jerk plumber that's good that gives me a discount?
Yeah, I'll rehire him.
tim pool
Trump gave us some of the best economic numbers of our lives.
And everybody was saying it. Except for the Democrats, they don't want to admit it.
But Jim Cramer on CNBC said it.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is also the other thing with the plumber analogy, part of where it breaks down is
with what I mentioned earlier, the people he insults are people who have contempt for us,
and also people who politicians have not stood up to in the past.
Like, Republicans have always played ball at the media.
It's really disgusting.
tim pool
Desperate.
seamus coughlin
Humiliating.
tim pool
I wanna be cool.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Please call me cool.
seamus coughlin
Don't call me mean names.
And, uh, look where that got him.
You know?
Trump doesn't care.
tim pool
Peter Bemis says, Biden, truth over lies.
Funniest yards I've ever seen.
seamus coughlin
Truth over lies.
tim pool
ReSeth says, Tim, Robert Barnstein said that he thinks that Nate Silver is purposefully, purposely telling pollsters to pump the poll numbers up for Biden so they can say Trump stole the election.
seamus coughlin
That's funny.
tim pool
I don't buy it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I don't buy it.
tim pool
I'm not into all the theories, but... Nate Silver doesn't control the University of Texas polling.
Like, that's ridiculous.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, there's something to be said for the fact that people pick polls, and especially people in the media pick polls that make it look like their candidate's going to win, because they want to, and they want to discourage people who would vote for the opposing candidate.
unidentified
Right.
seamus coughlin
So, like, there's something nefarious there, but that's a little much.
tim pool
Hollowed by the Be Thy Game says, take some China sanctions and pay towards student debt.
Love the show.
Yeah, there you go.
Let's see.
Makai Bree says, breaking now.
ATF to redefine AR-AK style pistols as falling under NFA.
Follow military arms channel.
This puts millions of owners at criminal risk.
Massive political move to derail Trump.
Why would that derail Trump?
Trump would come out and be like, we're going to stop that.
unidentified
Trump would say, no, you can't do that, stupid.
tim pool
He would actually come out and be like, we're going to ban bump stocks.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, yeah, that was sad.
lydia smith
I don't like that very much.
seamus coughlin
She's very rough.
tim pool
I used to think about George Washington.
I like presidents who didn't cut down a cherry tree.
Okay, yeah, that's fair.
company that occasionally gives out diplomas.
unidentified
Wow.
Here's the thing about George Washington.
I like presidents who didn't cut down a cherry tree.
lydia smith
Okay, yeah, that's fair.
tim pool
I like that.
Didn't Abraham Lincoln do the same thing?
seamus coughlin
I think it was the same story, cut down his dad's cherry tree.
unidentified
He was like, I planted more of them.
tim pool
Kalanchoe goes on to say, also, Seamus is in fact a ray of sunshine.
lydia smith
This is true!
seamus coughlin
I'm glad somebody thinks so.
unidentified
100%.
seamus coughlin
Thank you guys, all of you, you're very kind.
I'm gonna tear up a little.
lydia smith
Don't do it.
tim pool
Truthseeker says, I'm in Wisconsin, left lib, voting red.
I bet Wisconsin is closer than they think.
I think their models are broken because information exchange is too rapid.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I also don't think, I don't think they understand how COVID affected predict polling.
Like, how do you predict what COVID did?
ian crossland
Yeah, totally.
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen.
seamus coughlin
That's fair.
tim pool
If in March, when they announced the lockdowns were coming, some 26-year-old dude went to, you know, his parents' place.
He's like in New York City for college, and he goes back to, you know, rural PA.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
And then registers there and stays there.
ian crossland
Oh, that's a good point.
I was just thinking about mindset being changed.
tim pool
Listen, people have moved around so much across the country, we have no idea who registered who's voting where.
It's gonna be weird, man.
They're saying that Biden's up in Texas.
For real, that Biden's polling higher than Trump in Texas.
ian crossland
That's really weird.
tim pool
The first time in 44 years Democrats would win Texas if they win Texas.
seamus coughlin
So anyway, look, there's a lot at stake there.
If Democrats start winning Texas, we got problems.
lydia smith
This has troubled Ted Cruz for a while.
tim pool
The polls could be wrong because people, mostly the rich people, moved first.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Rich people in New York flee, right?
lydia smith
Makes sense.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
They spread out in random directions.
seamus coughlin
And then they write op-eds from their mansions in other cities and states about how New York isn't actually dead.
tim pool
But how many... No, but the people who stayed are saying that.
The people who fled are probably more likely to be conservative.
Or more conservative, at least.
seamus coughlin
No, I was making fun of Seinfeld.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
So I'm wondering if the wealthier people Flee.
I mean, actually, you know what?
I take that back, though.
Other people are funding Biden.
This could be bad for Trump.
But I think it's fair to say the polls are really- are probably off simply because throughout this whole past year, people have been moving to different locations.
ian crossland
That is so wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We have no idea what's gonna happen.
unidentified
Dang.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Nope.
tim pool
No clue.
I do think- I do think- No predictions for me.
I'll tell you, I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'll give you my gut feeling.
Trump is gonna win.
ian crossland
I hope you're right.
tim pool
But there's going to be a bunch of weird things happening with lawsuits and polls, and they're gonna say Trump stole it.
seamus coughlin
Um, everyone just go out, vote for Trump, pray the rosary.
lydia smith
Yep, there you go.
seamus coughlin
That's my advice.
lydia smith
Boom, done, nailed it.
tim pool
There you go.
lydia smith
Excellent.
tim pool
Well, anyway, it's about 1030.
Seamus, thanks for hanging out.
seamus coughlin
Thanks so much for having me.
tim pool
But you're, but we're gonna, you're hanging out for quite a bit, so we're gonna see, we're gonna see a bit more of you.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you guys are gonna have to keep putting up with me.
tim pool
And we're having, on the third, there's gonna be a really big party, so we're having people come out, and it's gonna be, it's gonna, we're gonna get weird with it.
seamus coughlin
No, we're not.
I think I need to catch my flight back.
tim pool
We are going to have a dance party.
seamus coughlin
I'm not trying to get weird.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
We are going to have cameras.
Me and Lydia will go to church.
We're going to have a wide shot.
We're going to have random people.
It's going to be like, I don't know exactly who's coming, but you're going to see a famous YouTuber to walk up and sit down and start talking to Shayna or whatever.
seamus coughlin
And cussing me out for the impression I did of them.
No one there is going to like me.
No one anywhere likes me.
tim pool
And you are going to get to watch The reaction when the when the final results of the night come in we won't know who exactly won But perhaps perhaps you'll see someone drop to their knees and scream.
seamus coughlin
No I was thinking I was like if I predict that Trump wins then like a couple weeks from now I'm gonna be in like cringe comps going Screaming at the sky is Biden sworn in.
tim pool
If Biden wins, I'm putting my feet up and I'm laughing, man.
I'm along for the ride, baby.
Yeah, like, what do you do?
seamus coughlin
Do your best.
I would be very upset, but yeah, that's also something.
That would be out of my hands, right?
Again, should just pray, live my life, but it would not thrill me.
tim pool
The big difference, I think.
seamus coughlin
More children would die.
More unborn children murdered.
tim pool
I was like the big difference between, I guess like people like me and these people is that when Trump lost, I'm sorry, when Trump won, when Hillary lost, they dropped to their knees and they scream and they cry.
And I'm just like, you ever see that, that, that, that Jeff, the meme of the two women going, Oh my God.
And the guy's going, yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, I love that.
tim pool
That's kind of what it's like.
It's like if Biden won, I would just laugh because like the absurdity of life.
First of all, you can't do anything if he wins.
What are we going to do?
lydia smith
Scream?
tim pool
No, what's the point?
I'm going to be like, well, we'll figure it out.
We'll have to have a good time.
seamus coughlin
And you know, I mean, if he defeats Abe Lincoln, I think it's civil war.
tim pool
I'll go kayaking.
This is one of the issues that actually moderates and conservatives have, is they go with the flow too often.
unidentified
Yep, that's the problem.
tim pool
And the left goes and burns down buildings.
seamus coughlin
And we laugh at them, but they are winning the culture.
tim pool
So listen, listen.
In New York, a cop got suspended for saying MAGA 2020 over Trump 2020 over his bullhorn because people were screaming at him.
They suspended him without pay.
But when the top-ranking guys took a knee for Black Lives Matter, they got clapped and cheered for and all that stuff.
So what happens is the left's willingness to burn down their cities means that the pathetic, spineless, whiny losers of the NYPD will give them whatever they want.
ian crossland
Yeah, but Antifa's got to be careful.
Any rebellion, it burns for a little while, and then if it gets to be too much, the feds come in and annihilate it.
So they've got to be careful.
seamus coughlin
Well, and also the revolution eats its own children, right?
I mean, all of the people who are out in the front cheering for this are going to be the first to go.
tim pool
And then the intelligentsia, those that fomented the revolution and rallied them.
And then people think it's counter-revolutionaries.
It's like... No, it's not.
unidentified
It's the revolution itself.
tim pool
I mean, they're on the list, but yeah, the people who started the revolution are the biggest threat to those who seize power.
seamus coughlin
So, you know, you can complain... Actually... There's some... No one wants... Even the subversive do not want subverters in their system.
tim pool
But think about this.
If there was a revolution, they would actually entertain a show like this to prove they're actually not that bad.
So, no, we allow them to speak because we don't do anything.
We don't go out.
We don't march.
We don't riot.
It's no threat to them.
It's just us talking and complaining and then going and, I don't know, eating Cheetos or something.
Then they're going out with torches.
seamus coughlin
Eating diuretos.
Diuretos.
tim pool
Anyway, I guess we'll see what happens on election day.
So tune in.
It's going to be a fun kind of open format thing.
You know, I'll probably be just skating, hanging out because we got the, well, I got the TV downstairs in the skate park now.
It's going to be epic.
seamus coughlin
It's going to be awesome.
tim pool
But yeah, thanks for hanging out, Seamus.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
We have you scheduled for another show at some time this week, so he's gonna be here.
But you can follow Seamus, FreedomTunes, on YouTube, and Twitter, Seamus Coughlin.
seamus coughlin
Check me out, FreedomTunes, on Twitter, yeah.
Spelled Seamus Coughlin, pronounced Seamus Coughlin, at Seamus Coughlin on Twitter, or just look up FreedomTunes on Twitter, and I should be the first person that comes up.
tim pool
Bucko came in because, you know, he usually comes... We're way over his head.
Yeah, we're way over his head.
So you can also follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
And you can check out my other YouTube channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.
And don't forget, we are on all of the podcast platforms.
lydia smith
That's correct.
tim pool
So you can go subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, whatever it is you kids are listening to today.
And of course, Ian Crossland has things you can follow.
ian crossland
Everybody, I love you.
You can follow me, Ian Crossland, on... I like Twitter, so get me there.
And all the other social networks I'm on.
Pretty much.
Is Bucko going to be on camera?
lydia smith
He is!
He's over here with me.
I took a scratch so I could get him on the screen.
unidentified
You guys are welcome.
tim pool
You can follow Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
O-I-D-S.
I have pictures of the cat sometimes.
ian crossland
Go to Tim!
tim pool
Oh snap!
There he is!
ian crossland
Get ready to come to me!
tim pool
He's putting his butt on it.
I love this cat.
He's looking for water.
So he tries to find people's glasses and he can see and drink from them.
seamus coughlin
He just wants something to knock off the table, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what they do.
All right, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out We're gonna have clips up tomorrow shows live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
Smash that like button on your way out.
Send us your loves, comments.
ian crossland
Maybe I can get him to walk close enough to me.
seamus coughlin
He just ditched me.
There we go.
lydia smith
No, but it's him.
tim pool
Okay, alright.
Wait, wait, maybe I can get him to walk close enough to me.
Oh, there's his butt.
On camera.
unidentified
Oh no.
Oh no.
tim pool
We will see you all tomorrow.
So we're scheduled to have on a leftist YouTuber, Vosh, I think it's pronounced.
I think it'll be an interesting conversation.
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