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Aug. 13, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - People Call For Trump To Win Nobel Peace Prize After Historic Middle East Peace Deal
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tim pool
Thanks for watching.
You know, normally when I do my early segments on my main channels, I have, you know, a bunch of stories lined up, and I sit there going through them, fact-checking, and I'm thinking, You know, what story is going to be the main story?
Like, what am I going to choose?
And then I'm sitting here and all of a sudden they're like, boom, Donald Trump, peace.
Like, we have an Arabic nation recognizing the existence of Israel, normalizing economics, trade, direct flights.
They're going to be opening up mosques for Muslim individuals to come in and pray.
So this is a very, very big deal.
And of course, there are haters saying that he didn't really do anything significant.
And then there are people now calling for Donald Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize.
And I'm sorry, I have no argument against that, to be completely honest.
Because, I mean, Obama, I don't know what Obama got the Peace Prize for, do you?
lydia smith
I have no idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
I have no idea.
And maybe I should.
But I think it's a big deal.
I think it's a really, really big deal.
And we're going to talk about that.
We've got a bunch of other stories.
Seriously big news.
Yale has been found to discriminate against white people and Asian people.
And so we're going to riff on this.
I want to go over what's going on in California.
Most of you are probably aware Crowder got his monetization back.
So we've got some fun stuff to talk about.
We'll go through it.
But the big news that everybody is waiting for... Adam's not on the show.
lydia smith
It's me.
Hello.
tim pool
It's Lydia.
lydia smith
Sour Patch Lids of producer fame.
tim pool
Lydia is the producer and Adam is not on the show.
And I know that everybody thinks there's like some... I'm seeing all these conspiracy theories and I'm just like, I don't know what to tell you, man.
Look, everybody's friends.
We're all trying to make sure that everybody has an opportunity to be entertained and informed and do their thing.
And Adam's literally setting up cameras and building a studio like 30 feet away.
And it's just sometimes there are things that happen in people's personal lives.
It's none of my business.
And it's nothing to do with any grand conspiracy.
Like some people were like, YouTube came and they were like, you have to- I'm like, he's got his own channel.
What are you talking about?
Like YouTube didn't come and say anything.
It's just, you know, things, I don't know.
It's personal issues.
lydia smith
That's more exciting though.
tim pool
I know a lot of people hope that there was a lot more exciting things to talk about, but that's about it.
So I'm going to be hanging out here with Lydia.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
I'm going to be live producing while we do the show, so you guys are welcome to give me constructive feedback.
Rag on her.
For sure.
Rag on me.
I can handle it.
I got thick skin.
tim pool
We're going to be having a conversation, talking about a lot of the stuff, and it's going to be, I mean, hopefully relatively similar.
I know that, you know, with Adam, there was more of like, you know, his views and back and forth, and we're just going to do our thing.
And, you know, I'll say if Adam's got his show, it's on YouTube.
It's AdamCastIRL.
He's doing his show.
He's setting it up.
And that's about it.
So you can check out his stuff.
You can follow him on Twitter.
We literally just had pizza like an hour ago hanging out.
I know a lot of people want to think there's like some grand conspiracy.
There really isn't.
It's really just, you know, you can probably imagine the things in your normal daily life.
I can't really talk about it.
It's not my business.
You know what I mean?
So just stuff happens.
What do you want to say?
So, yeah, we got a bunch of stuff, though.
I see the chat is yelling, no peace.
Who will spin the UFO?
Lydia will spin the UFO.
unidentified
I can do it, yeah.
tim pool
I think I can do it.
But I'll tell you this.
Look, there's a slightly different direction, I suppose.
We're gonna be booking guests.
We're gonna be setting up the new studio soon.
We're getting held up really, really bad because of COVID.
It really sucks.
And I just got news back from, you know, the business people involved in the expansion, you know, with relocating to the new property.
And we're just getting held up.
It's bad.
But we're gonna be booking people!
We're going to be booking guests.
A lot of people who have wanted to come on the show can't because of the COVID lockdown.
And then once we relocate, it should be a little bit better, and then we'll be able to have more conversations.
But I do want to mention, we're going to have the goal of trying to bring on regular Joes.
You know, regular Joes and Janes.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm excited.
tim pool
Yeah, regular people, because I think, you know, initially what I wanted to do with this show, the reason why it's called In Real Life was that it was going to be in a van driving around, and I was going to do my main shows, and then I was going to stop and then talk to regular people.
And then because of the impracticalities of it, and then eventually, you know, because of the impracticalities, I was like, let's just do a sit-down podcast, you know, conversation thing.
And then COVID happened, and all of a sudden we couldn't book guests anymore.
We had like, what, four guests?
lydia smith
Yeah, we had four or five.
unidentified
In February.
lydia smith
And it was so fun to have them, and I really enjoyed booking them and those conversations, so I cannot wait to get back to that.
tim pool
Yeah, and then COVID, man, it's brutal.
It's really, really brutal.
lydia smith
Everything's ruined.
tim pool
But I'll tell you what, if it's up to you, if you want to smash the like button, I know there's no Hulk hands, and I respect the criticism.
Anybody who wants to say it, it's...
Nothing, you know, it is what it is.
So if you do like the show, if you do respect it, then I appreciate, smash the like button, subscribe, notification bell.
We're still gonna be doing the show every Monday through Friday, live, 8 p.m.
And we've been trying to line up guests for quite some time, but people seriously have been like, some people gung-ho about not caring about COVID, some people really adamant about like, nah, COVID, you know, I can't do it.
But it seems like things are starting to ease up, and more importantly, We're trying to relocate.
Really, really, you know, we're trying to relocate.
So if we do, then we can get on the road with all that stuff.
But that being said, it's time that we talk about the news.
I do see that the chat is exploding.
There's nothing I can do.
So, I mean, I can keep going.
I can take the day off.
I hope you all realize I work 16 hours a day every day with no days off.
And if you're not happy, you know, but I'm going to do the show.
So I don't know what else you guys want me to say or do, but we're going to talk about the news here.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
The first story we have for everybody.
National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien.
Trump should get Nobel Peace Prize for Israel-UAE deal.
This is from Just the News.
John Solomon's outlets say Senior White House Advisor Jared Kushner and National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien fielded questions in the wake of the historic announcement of an agreement normalizing diplomatic relations between Israel and the UAE.
Now, National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien, sure.
I mean, do you know who that is?
Is his opinion strong?
lydia smith
I'm not real familiar with him.
tim pool
All right, well, I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you whose opinion does matter.
Cat turd!
lydia smith
Yes, of course.
tim pool
I hopped over to Twitter.
Nobel Peace Prize.
Yeah, if you look on Twitter, they're actually talking about it.
Cat Turd says, President Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
You've got Nick Adams.
I'm not sure who a lot of these people are, to be honest.
Best-selling author endorsed by POTUS.
Many people cheering.
And it became actually, check this out, a trending topic on Twitter.
Nobel Peace Prize.
People are calling for Trump to win the Nobel Peace Prize after he announced an agreement to normalize diplomatic relations between Israel and the UAE.
It's cool stuff.
So what does that mean?
What's going on?
lydia smith
Yeah, so you want me to read through this?
tim pool
Yeah, do it to it.
lydia smith
Yeah, so we're just talking about Israel and the United Arab Emirates just finally normalizing relations and the shift in the Middle East politics.
Most important, I think, from this is the West Bank annexation, and they're putting it on hold.
So this isn't like totally fixing everything.
To me, this seems a little bit like a Band-Aid, which may be an unfair characterization, honestly, if they're calling for him to get like a Nobel Peace Prize.
tim pool
That's his fans, though.
lydia smith
I know, I know.
tim pool
His fans are saying, give Trump a Peace Prize.
I mean, I gotta be honest, if Obama got one for whatever... He bombed people.
lydia smith
Didn't he bomb American citizens?
tim pool
Obama did kill an American citizen.
That's true.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.
Oh, actually, a couple of them.
Yeah, that was... Yeah, that's why I'm really impressed by it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think it's fantastic.
tim pool
So, well, look, basically, there are a lot of people who act like the Emirates and Israel have... I'm trying to be careful here, but people have called them proxy states of the United States.
lydia smith
Of the United States? Really? They think Israel is a proxy state?
tim pool
Yes. That's what they're arguing. And so of American imperialism or whatever. And this
is what I've seen from the anti-war left. And to me, I think you've got an Arabic nation now
recognizing the existence of Israel. That's fantastic.
Yeah. And they're going to tourism, direct flights, economics.
lydia smith
That's great.
Dude, I'm excited.
Like, I never thought that I would see this.
I did not think this would happen.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, we'll see if anything comes of it.
The bigger concern is that, will it hold?
Will there be peace?
Trump was asked about this in a press conference.
And he basically, he deferred, I can't remember who he deferred to, but they were like, we've put all our eggs in this basket.
Yeah.
And we have a deal.
So that's what we're betting on.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Foreign policy stuff.
It's so easy to talk about, isn't it?
lydia smith
It was really easy, man.
We got all the answers.
tim pool
Yeah.
These are some of the biggest issues I care about when it comes to electoral politics.
So, you know, in the past, like I've mentioned before, Barack Obama, they called him Obama.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
He killed a lot of people.
And when it came to getting away with it, it was basically like, if they're of military age in the Middle East, that was it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't like that, for obvious reasons.
Because once you hit a certain age and suddenly you're cannon fodder or whatever?
That's awful.
tim pool
That's unbelievable.
lydia smith
So that wasn't new for Obama, though, was it?
tim pool
No, I mean, you mean like president-wise?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, they all did it.
lydia smith
Well, they all thought that a certain age meant that you could just blow him up?
tim pool
Yeah, but I think it was actually that Yeah.
That's not nice.
Who was it?
civilians and they needed a way to justify killing civilians.
lydia smith
That's not nice.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, I wonder about what makes up the current Trump base.
Like, who was it?
Somebody said that Tulsi Gabbard might speak at the...
lydia smith
Yeah.
So I was watching because I was really intrigued by this because John Kasich was speaking at the DNC and then Tulsi Gabbard was being like considered to speak at the RNC.
And I was like, this is the greatest crossover of all time.
I thought it was really funny.
I would say if we got away with Tulsi and they had John Kasich, we had definitely won that round.
But holy cow.
tim pool
It's so weird.
Whatever is going on, there's like, I don't understand how you can have So, look, the criticism I'm seeing of Trump from the left is that this is not a real deal.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
That he held off at the very last minute for, you know, a re-election bump, and that these are two states that already work for, you know, work at the behest of the U.S., so it's no big deal.
unidentified
I disagree.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think this is major.
And this major announcement means that other nations and people will start to reflect on this and stuff.
And now we have, I guess, Tulsi Gabbard.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's confirmed.
lydia smith
I don't think it is.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I mean, it'd be great.
lydia smith
Yeah, it'd be cool, right?
tim pool
But she's a progressive.
I mean, if you look at her record.
lydia smith
She is.
tim pool
But she's consistently been about anti-war and it's resulted in her, for some reason, being more aligned with Trump supporters.
And that's the weirdest thing to me.
lydia smith
That is weird.
tim pool
I mean, but it's almost like we're seeing a redefinition of both parties.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
The actual Republican base today feels so different from where the Republicans were, even with Mitt Romney.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I don't understand.
lydia smith
A lot has changed over the last, like, five years, I would say.
Like what?
I feel like everything has shifted, because from what I recall when I was growing up, I don't remember my family's attitude toward the idea of a war, but it was never considered, like, bad.
We were not pacifists.
We did not think it was a big deal.
We thought it was part of being American.
Just kind of being involved overseas, which is obviously subject to debate.
But then over time, I started noticing that the Democrats were only interested in being against war when it helped their narrative.
And I was like, what's going on here?
Why is no one being consistent?
And Republicans started to be the ones who were like, no, war is bad.
We got to get out of there.
Most of them, not all of them.
tim pool
Your family's conservative?
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
How do they feel about the war during George W. Bush?
lydia smith
They were kind of hands-off about it, like they didn't think it was a good thing, but I think that we thought that they had a really good goal being over there, especially after 9-11.
Because following up with that, they were like, this is something important that we need to do.
We need to make sure this doesn't happen again.
tim pool
Yeah, and it was BS, but it really was the New York Times and the media and many outlets who told us that we were facing these threats.
And then when it came to Barack Obama, who was like, I don't know, what was McCain's position?
Was he for Bolton?
lydia smith
He was so pro-war.
He was like, Bolton, seriously.
tim pool
Right, right, right, right.
That's why, like, it's really funny when McCain died, and I, you know, with all due respect, Everybody on Twitter, every political spectrum, was just, like, not having it.
Like, they don't like the guy.
And there was a meme, it was a political compass, and in the center, it was like an NPC saying, you know, like, love and respect for, you know, service and duty or something.
And then every faction, the authoritarian left, the libertarian left, were like, F. McCain or whatever.
And it was funny because, like, I was, I didn't think it was, like, tepid or centrist to say, you know, I can respect him, you know, he died.
I guess that makes me milquetoast centrist.
lydia smith
See, I don't really agree with that either, because I think that you can totally make the statement that he, because he was partially, his arms were partially paralyzed because of what he went through overseas, right?
tim pool
They tortured him.
lydia smith
That is a heroic act.
Like, and two things I think can really be true at once, especially in the case of John McCain.
He was extremely heroic.
He saved a bunch of his men.
But then he did not become someone who loved peace.
He continued to like the idea of war.
And I did not, I couldn't, I couldn't square that in my mind.
tim pool
You know what bothers me a lot about, like, especially where Republicans used to be?
Because this is the point of what I'm trying to get to.
Everything's very different now.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, for some reason, you've got, there were more Republicans supporting Trump withdrawing from Afghanistan than there were Democrats.
Mind you, there were only eight.
lydia smith
There's so few of them, yeah.
tim pool
And there were three Democrats.
Yeah, so, I mean, look, both parties suck, you know.
Trump's something totally different, you know, whether he gets a peace prize or whatever.
But with Obama, They were pro-war to an insane degree.
All the liberals just shut up.
And that to me was like... I was like, you know what, man?
What is this?
I felt like it was 2008, you know?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Hope and change.
Bring the troops back and all these really great things.
And it was not true.
And I think, you know, when you look at the legacy of Barack Obama with the National Defense Authorization Act, with bolstering our forces in the Middle East and all of the extrajudicial assassination of American citizens, You know, this is rough.
I know domestic policy is really important, but for me, where, you know, how I viewed the world and how people viewed us and really getting to as close as we can to something we can consider to be utopian, which would probably just be, you know, carrying on in a, you know, freedom, libertarian-ish capitalist system of some sort with like a mixed economy, some kind of social safety net.
Then I think, you know, worldly affairs are really, really important.
And I'm thinking, like, how can we actually function as a country if we just routinely do these things?
And how can we have a constitution when you actually have a president who straight up says, if you're an American but you're in a different country, I can drop a bomb on you?
lydia smith
Right, and he talks about having a pen and a phone and just bypassing all of the stuff that was put into place to make sure that presidents didn't sit down with a pen and a phone and do all this stuff.
And like the kind of thing that Democrats are complaining about now with Trump.
These things that the executive branch shouldn't have control over.
It's just grown too much.
tim pool
They just keep doing it.
Obama, I mean, how did we enter Libya?
You remember all that, under Obama?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and it was like, you can't, the president can't just do that, and he just did it.
And they were like, well, whatever.
And it's been that way nonstop.
And so, you know, early on in Trump's, several years ago, he fired a bunch of missiles into Syria.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
All of a sudden we saw these pundits like, hmm, truly a presidential candidate, you know.
Or, not candidate, but truly so presidential.
No, it's not strange.
They support the war machine.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And here's what I think is happening right now.
It seems like someone accidentally allowed real Americans to win an election with Donald Trump.
lydia smith
Yeah, what's up with that?
tim pool
It was an accident.
There was like that Pied Piper email from the DNC.
Do you remember that one?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
It was like, Donald Trump is a Pied Piper candidate that would, basically they wanted Trump to be prominent because it would make them lose.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And it made him win!
Really?
Talk about how stupid that was.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think about like, It's really become obvious when you have a two-party system, and then you get a president who's straight up like, eh, I'm over this, let's pull our troops out.
And all of a sudden now, you have the never-Trumpers, the Republican establishment who ran with their tails between their legs, begging, banging on the door of the Democratic establishment, help us, help us!
You know, and they're pro-war.
And then the Democrats are like, okay, come on in!
And now they're basically doing like war games and other stupid, you know, whatever together.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're all pro-war.
And then they run this media narrative that's like, very obviously pro-war.
I read an article from Defense One, where they're like, something really weird is happening.
Where for some reason Congress is stopping the president from ending the use of force in a foreign country.
It never, it doesn't happen that way.
But I think what we're seeing is, with Trump and with, you know,
his efforts to withdraw forces, and now the Middle Eastern peace deal,
these are bad for the military industrial complex.
These are bad for these big companies.
They want to go on big adventures.
They want to be big machines that churn out economic value.
Donald Trump talked about selling weapons to Saudi Arabia and all the stuff and things that people are very critical about.
And now we see this happening.
And now the Trump supporters, which includes people who were liberal before.
What am I supposed to say?
You know, like, Donald Trump has just coordinated this Middle Eastern peace deal, whether or not He's deserving of all of the credit or some of the credit or whatever.
It's him.
It's him.
And I absolutely think that Israel and UAE deserve lots of credit for this.
It's really hard to come to the table.
And there's a lot of political issues involved and probably historical hate.
And Trump, they said he had a vision.
He had a meeting.
He brought them together at an event, I guess, and he said, I want to do this.
And they both were like, we're interested in talking and he helped make this happen.
So what am I supposed to say to people?
I have, I have friends of mine who are like, donate to Biden.
You, you have to Trump can't win.
And I'm like, what?
unidentified
What am I supposed to do now?
tim pool
I've been talking to some people who hate Biden.
Some prominent people, some high-profile people who are like, I can't vote for Trump, man.
And I'm like, I hear you, you know?
And I'm pretty upset.
For me, it's begrudgingly.
As of right now, I probably will.
And especially with Kamala Harris.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
The issue, though, too, is like, I don't know how I feel about Mike Pence, but I'll tell you this.
If we get Middle Eastern peace, if I mean that, I can't I can't even put in the words the feeling like I have because of this.
I'm like, my jaw hit the floor and I see the haters and I'm like, can you give him one day?
And they're like, it doesn't really mean anything.
I'm like, dude, are you kidding me?
You can't even go to these countries if you've ever been to Israel.
And now we're starting to see a crack break where it's like, there can be peace.
And it might not be perfect.
Things like this may have happened in the past, but to this extent, I'm stoked on it, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but there's still people saying, nah.
lydia smith
This reminds me a little bit of the North Korea thing that they came up with.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Cause I remember everybody, I was like, this is another thing.
This is the first time I started thinking, you know, I've never, this is something I never thought I'd see.
I thought we'd always be at war.
I thought they would always be threatening to bomb somebody in order to get some kind of aid from us.
Cause my parents told me that was how it was.
That was what they did.
They would threaten to do things and we would give them help.
And I was like, ah, that's, that sounds like a really wonderful situation.
Maybe we should do something about that.
So when he when he kind of pulled that off or he made headway there, I was really impressed.
And to me, doing this is even more impressive because it's not just North Korea.
It's not just one country.
It's two different countries that have been totally at odds.
And then President Trump, who supposedly has absolutely no standing in the world, kind of bringing them together and using coronavirus as a kind of.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
That's one of the things.
lydia smith
So that that was amazing to me.
I was like, this is really smart.
This is very clever diplomacy.
tim pool
Yeah, so one of the things they're doing is they're gonna be working together on a COVID vaccine, and that's great.
I mean, this is all great.
Yeah, when Trump started talking with North Korea and the deal, like, to try and work towards peace, I think it's kind of not really gone so well.
Right. North Korea kind of does their thing and he got roasted for it and what really bothered me is, you know,
Donald Trump walked in to North Korea Right. With no security. Right. I I was just uh, man, once
again, I'm shocked. I'm like Peace is possible. So here's my question for all the people
who are complaining about Trump and all the things He's bad at now like yeah, like so so I saw somebody
mentioned like, you know, Tim You say you don't like Trump's character who should he act
more like and I'm like, it's a good it's a good point You know people made fun of George W Bush
But I'll be honest, I think Trump has done a lot better in the past couple of years relative to where he was when he first got elected.
And I can I can recognize that.
Right.
And I think it really comes down to, you know, finer points on issues related to social liberalism, you know, just like old old school wedge issues that still kind of exist.
lydia smith
You know, it really bothers me about Trump.
And this is not really a popular view, I don't think, because I don't know how many people even think about this anymore.
But the budget really, really bothers me.
Oh, the national debt.
And I think that people who are thinking about the future are bothered by it.
And Trump doesn't seem to mind.
Like, I don't know how he used to run his business.
Maybe this is why some of them went into the ground.
tim pool
But he doesn't just seem interested in There was only a few of his businesses that were bankruptcies, and he had hundreds.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Okay, that's fair.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
I hear this all the time, and I'm like, bankruptcy doesn't mean you're a failure.
It means you're strategically trying to, you know... Right.
lydia smith
But I kind of thought when he was elected that being a businessman would help him pay really close attention to the deficit.
Nah, it's wrong.
It's way off on that one.
tim pool
There are a lot of benefits to a business person in government, but I think we see often in the... Look, man, businesses are authoritarian.
Totally.
You start your own company, you can do whatever you want.
You hire who you want, you fire who you want.
Within the law, there's still legal issues here.
But you can snap your fingers and be like, you know, we need a giant vat of grape jelly.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And your employees are going to be like, uh, we're a sock company.
What do we need?
Just get me the jelly!
And you slam the table and they go do it.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so when you go into government, Trump sits in the room and he says, here's what you need to do.
And he ends up with, I can't remember which one of his advisors, saying like, you can't do that.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think a few of them have said that.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're like, it's the legal channels, it's the red tape.
And then he's like, why?
You know?
Then the media comes after him, they're like, look what he's doing, he's doing illegal things, and it's like, ugh.
And they misframe everything.
lydia smith
Right, of course.
tim pool
So now, it's gonna be really, really tough for them to drag him over this, but earlier when I covered this, when it first broke, like this is what I was saying earlier, normally I'll have like, I've got a bunch of stories pulled up, there are a bunch of things I know I want to talk about, then this dropped and I was like, wow.
lydia smith
That's it, yeah.
tim pool
And so I pulled it up, I'm like, I don't know.
And I wanted to be fair, I got some criticism from other people to highlight.
But it reminded me of, it was, I think, who was it, Nate Silver?
lydia smith
From FiveThirtyEight?
tim pool
When he tweeted, you won't even give, the libs won't even give Trump one good day.
And that was when he killed al-Baghdadi, who was the leader of ISIS.
lydia smith
The austere religious scholar, as I recall, yes.
tim pool
This to me, like, when I saw the note that came out, the statement that came out from the world leaders, Trump and Netanyahu, and I think it's Sheikh Mohammed Zayed, the crown prince of UAE.
And I saw these people ragging on him.
The craziest thing was the people who are too dumb to understand what it was.
And this, this bums me out, man.
You know, they don't, they don't understand when it's, I don't get it.
I really, I just don't get it.
How could I grow up hearing that war is bad, war is bad, war is bad?
You know, from the left, from the liberals.
And now, they don't care.
Or they support it.
I've actually had a progressive friend of mine say, well, you know, when it comes to war.
lydia smith
Oh, please.
tim pool
I try to be consistent and there are things that I value and my position on war has a lot to do with the death penalty.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And the justification of whether or not we should be doing the things we're doing.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
So you know what, man?
If this leads Trump to the Nobel Peace Prize or whatever.
lydia smith
So be it, man.
Seriously.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't know.
I think that's really cool.
I think that's fantastic.
Honestly, I think that this kind of work between these two different countries and kind of facilitating this is fully deserving of a Peace Prize.
tim pool
I don't know what constitutes a Peace Prize.
lydia smith
That's true.
Maybe I should look into that.
But because that would be kind of interesting too, right?
tim pool
You want to look up what Obama got his Peace Prize for?
lydia smith
Yeah, let me see.
tim pool
I want to do this, listen.
I think... I try not to beat the dead horse when it comes to issues of foreign war, Middle Eastern conflict, all of this stuff.
But it really is like, these are my issues.
That's why I really like Tulsi Gabbard.
She's not running and, you know, whatever.
That's why I think it's really cool that she might speak.
I don't know what the deal is, whether she'd speak at the RNC or something.
But I love it.
I know that there are other people that I also respect who disagree.
I think Dan Crenshaw.
I think he's fantastic.
Tremendous respect for the guy.
And I think he disagrees.
I think he said we need a presence over there.
But this is it for me.
It's something that I find really, really important.
But we have another story.
You want to talk about Obama real quick?
lydia smith
Yeah, let me talk about him real quick because I was able to find it.
Let me go through this with you guys.
So it says the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the U.S.
President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people.
Hey, you know what Trump just did today?
He seriously strengthened international diplomacy and cooperation between these two countries that were at odds.
tim pool
I got a question though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Didn't Obama assume office in like January, January 20th, 2009?
lydia smith
2009 or 2008?
unidentified
2009.
tim pool
The election was in 08.
And then in 09, he assumes office.
lydia smith
He's like immediate.
tim pool
Yeah, they kind of just gave him the award literally.
So I'm wondering, what did he have to do to earn the Nobel Peace Prize?
lydia smith
I don't think earn is the right word here.
What the heck?
tim pool
So, he accepted the Peace Prize in December.
They announced the award October 9, 2009, citing Obama's promotion of nuclear non-proliferation and a new climate in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.
The Nobel Committee's decision drew mixed reactions from U.S.
commentators and editorial writers across the political spectrum, as well as the rest of the world.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Look at this.
He accepted the award on December 10, 2009.
In a 36-minute speech, he discussed the tensions between war and peace and the idea of a just war, saying, Perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the commander-in-chief of the military of a nation in the midst of two wars.
Obama is the fourth president of the United States to have won the Nobel Peace Prize after Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter.
And Carter's honor happened after leaving office.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
Okay.
So after that, Obama added more troops and then sent a bunch of drones.
And the drones done blew people up.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, I do have to say it was surprisingly self-aware of him to talk about the country being in two different wars at the time that he received this prize.
Yeah.
Thanks for pointing that out, dude.
We noticed that.
tim pool
Yeah, and a lot of people made the joke.
They're like, maybe Obama should give the award back once he started blowing up, you know, military-aged men.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
There are a couple people, and I'm not entirely sure, so definitely fact check me, I think Obama killed four people that were American citizens without charge or trial.
And the scariest thing, and this is credit to Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change, he was speaking to people at the, I think it was the debates, right?
I don't know if you know this.
It was the debates, and I think it was the debates.
They got some interviews, and they asked people, you know, Obama used a drone strike to kill a 16-year-old American citizen without charge or trial, and the response was, yeah, well, he should have had a better dad.
What?
Yeah, I think that... I'm not sure who said that.
It's been a long time.
This was back in like 2011 or 2012.
Wow.
Yeah.
And where was the news?
Where was the media?
We get dragged into this stuff by biased fake news.
Man.
You know what I think?
There's a lot of people in this country who just trust the news.
And when the news says it, they're like, why not?
When Trump comes out and challenges that, you've got a bunch of NPCs and they're thinking like, but the news is a part of my day.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't want to break away from it, but, man, is it fake?
And here's what I've got to say, because we're going to go into this next story, and it's going to be really bad, so I hope you're all ready for this next story, because we're going to talk about something that the media's been heavily criticized for.
There is the media that people talk about, like with air quotes, and then there's actual news outlets.
Local news tends to do a pretty okay job.
There's a lot of- there's still the same issues that affect local outlets the same as national outlets.
But the national outlets have a tendency of being...
I don't know, wings of the Democratic Party, to put it that way.
Public relations wing.
The issue is, right now we have liberal media, we have left-wing.
I don't like calling it liberal media, but that's what it's called, right?
That's how people refer to it.
And then you have conservative media.
But the mainstream news and people like, you know, Brian Stelter, they never say left-wing media.
They always just say, like, Trump's ragging on news outlets.
lydia smith
They're like fish not knowing they're wet, almost.
tim pool
Yeah, but they will say right-wing commentators, right-wing personalities.
They'll lump all of the worst people in the world together under the banner of right-wing.
If you go to the anti-defamation leagues like Terror Tracker, they're like, anyone anti-government is right-wing.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
tim pool
It's like, we talk about Antifa as anti-government, but there's no anti-government left-wing category.
There was one instance where they claimed that a black identity extremist who had killed people was left-wing.
And all of a sudden I'm like, well hold on a minute.
Isn't racial supremacy, like, right-wing?
But because of the race, you make it left or right?
lydia smith
That's weird.
tim pool
So what ends up happening, this is how the media functions.
Yeah.
So listen, we're going to get, this is going to be brutal, man.
I appreciate you guys.
We're going to talk about a really, really messed up story.
And we're going to talk about what the media is doing.
So I'm giving you guys fair warning.
Your blood will boil from this one.
Check it out.
It's from The Blaze.
And I've got an update on this.
Neighbor reportedly rushes five-year-old boy playing outside, puts a gun to his head, and executes him from the blaze.
This story's been making the rounds among many, many people.
And I just say many people because I see a lot of people talking about it and I don't see large mainstream news outlets.
They didn't talk about it.
They didn't talk about a story like this.
I saw this.
And I had people asking me if I would cover it and, you know, will I bring it up?
And I gotta be honest.
My thought process initially was like, this is insane.
However...
My point of view was like, I don't think I can just highlight this one particular story because people think the media is ignoring it.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And they should be covering it.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And I also kind of thought like, well, I mean, you know, will they cover it?
I mean, are people jumping the gun?
You know, let's see if this becomes a story.
And sure enough, it didn't.
And now it's at the point where we have the body camera footage from George Floyd totally ignored, totally ignored.
And I'm like, wait, wait, hold on, hold on a minute.
How many stories like this do we have?
So, you know, with all due respect and, you know, maybe I could have done a better job, maybe I could have brought up this story sooner.
You have the story of a five-year-old boy who was playing outside and a dude ran up, because of some beef, executed a little kid.
And this doesn't make... It's not just about this story.
There's a bunch of stories like this.
Do you remember when in New York there were people running up to Orthodox and Hasidic Jews and just beating them?
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And just where was it?
Why does it fall on conservatives to support the Jewish community when they were being attacked in New York City?
Yeah, I don't know.
Look, I think it's obvious.
The narrative they're pushing, writing Black Lives Matter in the streets, without approval, it's intended to help the Democratic Party.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, it's Bill de Blasio.
It is literally Democrats painting these messages.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Without permission.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And taxpayer money.
The moment someone challenges it, what do we get?
Shut it down.
Well, not Bill de Blasio.
He was like, no.
He said Black Lives Matter transcends politics.
lydia smith
Oh, does it?
tim pool
So what?
So does Blue Lives Matter.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I thought everybody liked cops.
How does Blue Lives Matter not transcend politics?
Police exist literally everywhere.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, it's apparently a political statement to say you support police now, but not Black Lives Matter.
I want to read you the story because I want to make sure you all understand.
This is from The Blaze.
They say a five-year-old boy is dead after a man in Wilson, North Carolina reportedly ran up to the child while he was playing in a neighborhood street and fatally shot the child in the head.
According to a report from WRAL-TV, the shooting took place on Sunday.
Cannon Hinnant was playing outside his father's house on the dusky summer evening, when their neighbor, 25-year-old Darius N. Sessoms, charged Cannon, produced a handgun, and shot him in the head.
The child's 7-year-old and 8-year-old siblings witnessed the murder.
First responders came to the scene and transported the little boy to Wilson Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
Doris Lebrant, a neighbor, said she witnessed Sessoms running up to Cannon, putting the gun to his head, and firing the weapon before fleeing the scene into his own home.
She couldn't believe her eyes.
Quote, my first reaction was, he's playing with the kids, she recalled.
For a second I thought, that couldn't happen.
People don't run across the street and kill kids.
LeBron said the situation became all too real when she saw the child's father react to the horrific scene.
Authorities took Sessoms into custody on Monday night and charged him with first-degree murder.
He is being held in the Wilson County Jail without bond.
Authorities have not yet determined a motive in the shooting, but insisted that the killing
wasn't a random, wasn't at, wasn't random, as Sessoms was reportedly friendly with Cannon's
father. A GoFundMe page was set up to benefit the family, uh, has raised at least $5,577
at the time of this reporting. I want to stop there too. I see Antifa, far leftist rioters,
they go around and they smash windows, they attack people and they raise 80 grand, 30 grand,
40 grand. Yep. The media doesn't cover these stories.
This is not the only story.
These stories happen all the time.
And I think I've been desensitized to them, especially growing up in Chicago.
I wonder why it is that this isn't national news.
lydia smith
This doesn't make sense to me because this, you want to talk about not a political issue?
This is not a political issue.
tim pool
It is.
lydia smith
It shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be.
It's murder and it shouldn't be political in any way at all.
And I think that they're choosing to make it political by refusing to cover it.
It bothers me a lot.
It's an issue.
tim pool
We have an update from The Blaze.
Hashtag SayHisNameTrends after mainstream media's silence on the atrocious killing of five-year-old Cannon Hinnant.
Why is there a media blackout on the execution killing of a five-year-old boy who was innocently riding his bicycle?
I don't agree with the term blackout.
I think blackout implies they're all intentionally saying, don't run the story.
I think it's fair if you believe that.
If in your opinion you're like, I don't trust the media and I think they're gonna do that.
I personally wouldn't say blackout.
I would say, they don't care about you.
They don't care about this kid.
They don't care about these stories.
And I think that's worse.
lydia smith
That is way worse.
tim pool
I think it's way worse.
I think it's one thing to imply that the media is actively seeing this and going, oh no, we better not let anyone know.
That implies they know it's bad.
And they actually understand the ramifications of a murder like this, and they're worried about what people will think.
No, I think they ignore it.
lydia smith
They ignore it?
You really think they ignore it?
Or you think they don't even care?
tim pool
That's what I mean.
I think they see it and they go, huh.
Because they don't even see, like, what I'm trying to say is, A regular person sees a story like this and they share it.
They're like, what is this?
Why does something like this happen?
And why are there other stories like this?
There's videos of people being beaten in the street and the media won't talk about it.
It's not because I think there's a blackout.
That would imply they understand that people are shocked by this.
It's that they don't want to, they don't care.
It just doesn't faze them at all.
They're indifferent.
I was always told growing up, the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
lydia smith
I think it's right.
tim pool
And that's what this is.
Complete and total indifference to the fact that we've had murders going up in this country, violent crime, and we're witnessing in various cities, the district attorneys are straight up saying, we will not prosecute.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Portland?
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Chicago?
lydia smith
So maybe this is just because I took the Moral Foundations test and I'm really, really high in caring.
tim pool
You're really high?
lydia smith
That's going to get clipped out of context.
I'm really high in caring.
And it baffles me that you could just discard this and just decide not to cover it.
Like what could possess you?
That's kind of ghoulish to be able to say, I don't think this is important.
I don't think this matters.
tim pool
So for those that aren't familiar, it's Jonathan Haidt.
He did the Moral Foundations Test, and it's a really, really fascinating assessment.
It finds that basically conservatives have a balance of all... There's six moral foundations.
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
You want to pull it up?
Yeah, go ahead.
So conservatives, you can pat yourselves on the back whether this matters for you or not.
Liberals, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but it's interesting.
There are six moral foundations.
Do you have them?
lydia smith
Yeah, hold on.
Let me grab it.
tim pool
It's like, uh, care fa- oh, you've got it.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Okay, do they actually list the foundations on here?
I think so.
No, I think you have to actually take the test.
lydia smith
No, you have to go through the whole thing.
Ah, that's boo.
I don't like that.
tim pool
Here, let's, uh, do you want to just spam it?
lydia smith
Yeah, let's see.
tim pool
Just make it crazy.
And then we'll show you this to explain what's going on.
lydia smith
Oh, I can just go through all the way in the middle.
We'll be super moderate.
We'll be super centrist here.
Alright, we're gonna give it a totally fake answer and see what it comes up with.
Everything might be even.
I don't know.
tim pool
The moral foundations are like care, fairness, loyalty, authority, purity.
So here are the six.
Care, fairness, purity, loyalty, authority, and liberty.
And you can see here, so Lydia just spammed moderate the whole way across.
lydia smith
Look how moderate we are.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's conservative.
It says your strongest moral foundation is loyalty.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Your morality is closest to that of a conservative.
Conservatives tend to have a balance of all of the moral foundations.
That's really interesting.
Very interesting.
And what's really fascinating to me about it is it's conservative, like, in general.
This is not a new thing for conservatives.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But liberals tend to have care and fairness really high.
And you can look at the blue here.
Care is at, like, 78.
Fairness is at, like, you know, 79.
And then loyalty, authority, purity, and liberty are lower.
And purity is, like, the lowest next to libertarian.
And conservatives in red are balanced across the board.
Interestingly, and I find this hilarious, libertarians are low on everything except liberty.
lydia smith
That kind of makes sense to me.
tim pool
They're like, I don't care what you do or who you do it to.
Leave me alone.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
But this is what's fascinating.
Authority is important to recognize, but not to just blindly follow.
We understand why authority is important to make sure a system can function and people can survive.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Purity is relatively important as well, and it has to do with avoiding disease and things like this.
lydia smith
Yeah, like having borders and boundaries.
tim pool
Right.
Liberals, or I should say left liberal, whatever you want to call it, have like none.
lydia smith
They don't think that's important?
tim pool
None.
They do have a decent amount of liberty, that's interesting too, but lower than conservatives.
Liberals obviously believe less in liberty than conservatives, less in authority, less in loyalty, more care and more fairness.
I challenge this.
I don't believe it.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
I don't believe that care really is, I think, fairness, but I don't think they care.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, because when I talk to my, like, when I try to make a conversation with, maybe it's whatever default liberal is, when I have conversations with them and I say something like, do you ever actually ask a conservative how they feel?
Of course they don't.
lydia smith
So do you think it's just like an in-group thing?
Like where they really really want to protect their group?
tim pool
Yes.
lydia smith
Yeah?
So it's very tribal?
tim pool
That's why maybe fairness isn't true either.
I don't think fairness is fair either.
I gotta be completely honest because you can take a look at this.
When you have Antifa, Black Lives Matter rioters, smashing and destroying small businesses, causing suffering among those who are the most vulnerable among us, immigrant families, where are those who have care and fairness coming out and saying this was wrong?
unidentified
Hmm.
lydia smith
You might be right.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know what it is these people are.
Maybe you'd find that the Antifa people, they score low in everything but authority.
Because I'm curious about this, right?
Yeah.
They give you a graph of left, liberal, conservative, and libertarian.
What about authoritarian?
lydia smith
Yeah, what about far, far, far left?
tim pool
Yeah.
But not just far left, but authoritarian in general.
That's true, that's not really a... Would they have low liberty and really high authority?
lydia smith
Yeah, and probably really high purity.
tim pool
So anyway, the reason we got into this in the context of Canon Hinnant is specifically about they don't care.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And I'm like, how can they claim to be liberal if they literally don't care about these things?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Certainly this story should make the average person cry.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, I mean, this was like getting punched in the chest.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
But, you know, I've seen so many stories like this and...
I mean, even when I saw the George Floyd videos, like I was moved.
I was like, I'm like, man, even when you watch the body camera footage and you realize, look, he was resisting.
So for those that aren't familiar, they published the body camera footage.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Now we know he kicked his way out of the SUV.
He was saying he was resisting and he was saying, hold me on the ground, hold me on the ground several times.
I'm still upset when I see that video of him saying, I can't breathe, mama, and stuff like that.
It pains me, man.
I'm absolutely opposed to the death penalty, recognizing there's no absolutes, right?
I understand there are certain circumstances that even I have no control over.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Conflict exists, murderers exist, and sometimes, I think in the confines of the state, if you've subdued someone and they're unable to actually hurt anybody anymore, that's when I'm like, I don't think it's right to kill.
But I understand, if I saw this dude walk up to that kid and pull out a gun, that guy'd probably die.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
If I had the means, you know what I mean?
I think most people would agree, it doesn't matter who the person is, you watch them walk up to a kid and draw a gun, if you had the power, if you would snap your fingers and they would die an agonizing death and it would prevent that death, you would do it in defense of others.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
And it's unfortunate, but this kid didn't deserve what he got.
lydia smith
No, man.
tim pool
This family, the siblings, this poor kid, man.
lydia smith
Right in front of his siblings, too.
And the George Floyd thing is awful.
It's sad, that's traumatizing, and I wish that had never happened.
But at the same time, George Floyd got a heck of a lot more of a chance at life than this little 5 year old kid.
And I wish that he were getting as much attention and as much of a memory, like a memorial, as George Floyd did.
tim pool
Check out these tweets.
Jason Howard says, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, zero results, zero results, zero results.
Not even a mention?
It's crazy.
I mean, if CNN ran one article where they were like, hey, this thing happened, and that was it, and there was no big, like, you know, Brian Seltzer didn't come on the air and talk about it, I'd be like, they did the story, you know what I mean?
They talk about it.
Whether or not people in politics care is entirely up to them.
It's crazy to me.
I think, you know, I was reading this Medium post from a woman named Carrie Smith about how she's a liberal and she's going to vote for Trump and it's because the left isn't liberal anymore, it's because they're lying.
She wrote about how in the 2016 cycle she was watching videos of Trump supporters being beaten and it made her cry.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
But she still believed it was like Trump was awful and all these things were really bad and these supporters were really bad.
And it wasn't until she actually talked to people that she learned these are regular people thinking, feeling human beings.
You know what I mean?
But even she had empathy when she saw these videos of Trump supporters being attacked.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
What are these people on on Twitter that are just pure wads of hate?
It's like all the hate.
It's like it reminds me of you ever see Ghostbusters 2?
lydia smith
No, I'm sorry.
tim pool
Okay, so in Ghostbusters 2, there's pink slime.
And when they're negative, it bubbles and expands.
And it's like, you know, it's feeding off negative energy.
lydia smith
Okay, okay.
tim pool
That's what Twitter is.
It's like, what was the name of the bad guy from Ghostbusters 2?
I can't remember his name.
lydia smith
Shoot, I don't know.
Let me see.
tim pool
You didn't see it.
lydia smith
No, I didn't see it.
tim pool
It was the guy in the painting, you know, whatever.
But if, man, if they remade Ghostbusters 2's storyline today with Twitter, it's just, it's putrid.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I don't even want to know what people are saying about this kid.
So we got a tweet here from Kyle Kashuv.
He says, yesterday a five-year-old was riding his bike, playing outside his house with his
two sisters.
His neighbor, with already multiple felony charges, walked up to him and shot him dead
at point blank.
Five years old.
JFC.
Where the H is the media coverage.
Say his name.
Cassandra Fairbank says, just so everyone understands, a lone woman calling the police
on a stranger threatening her dog in a park is considered national news.
The murder of Kenan Hinnant is not.
lydia smith
She's got a point.
tim pool
Yeah, she does.
lydia smith
It's a huge point.
tim pool
How many stupid Karen videos do they prop up?
Our news media does not serve us.
This reminds me of in Sweden.
There was a story that when I went to Sweden several years ago.
I think most people know, but for those that aren't familiar, I went to Sweden because Donald Trump said, you know, look what happened over, you know, last night in Sweden.
He was referring to a Fox News story.
Everyone took him literally because the left likes pretending they, you know, they pull him out of context.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
So I decided, you know, with a friend of mine, Emily, we were gonna go and cover and do like a vlog series in Sweden to see what was really going on.
We called it Last Night in Sweden.
It was funny.
We thought it was like a funny take on going because I really thought, for the most part, that Sweden was okay.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And it kind of was.
It's got its problems.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
There's a story there about someone who committed a crime who was Somali and the media blurred his face and hands and then changed the color of the pixels to make it look like he was white.
lydia smith
I remember that.
tim pool
Yep.
And I think there's a racial component to why they don't do certain stories.
This is the problem with a hysterical media.
Telling a story about a guy murdering a kid does not make you racist.
It's not racist to highlight the fact that a grown man executed a little boy.
I don't care what their races were.
I care that it happened.
When Tamir Rice, you know the story of Tamir Rice, was playing with his toy pistol in a park and the cops ran up and shot him, I was extremely angry about this.
lydia smith
Of course.
tim pool
Cops, you know, that's why I think there's room for reform and figuring out how to make things better.
lydia smith
Dude, I think this is why racism is never gonna die.
They're not gonna let it.
It earns way too much money.
It is way too lucrative.
It's way too profitable.
It gets all those clicks, dude.
tim pool
And this is why they don't want the war in the Middle East to die.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
For much the same reasons.
It's like controlled chaos.
Let it happen.
But I really don't think it's a grand conspiracy or anything like that.
I think, you know, what we see in places like Sweden, and now what we see with stories like this, it is... Oh man, I'm gonna read this.
Look.
What I wanted to end with is, there are social functions that tell you you are not allowed to say certain things because it's too close to the line no matter what.
And I've been explaining this a couple times, particularly how it pertains to COVID.
If we're not allowed to show you a doctor talking about COVID because he's got good news and we get banned for it, then the only thing you will ever see is everything's getting worse.
COVID is getting worse.
Everybody's getting sick.
And then people will just continually believe everything's worse than it is.
And then because of that, the actions taken by government and by doctors will always be
towards the most extreme and negative interpretation.
That's interesting.
There's no...
Yeah, so you need arguments.
So if the news comes out and says, this is the end of the world, it's the apocalypse,
you need another side to come out and say, well, hold on, there's some good news here.
And then people can weigh their views and say, okay, I think the truth is closer to the middle.
Right now, anybody who says anything like, this is the reason why only conservative outlets for the most part actually talk about what happened to this kid, and I think there's a racial component to it.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
Well, I think this, so this really boggles my mind and I don't think, I think that the fact that the media has no accounting force, I think what you said about them pushing everything toward the extreme by only giving bad news, I think that's pivotal, like that's an important point and I'm not sure anyone really considers that.
And I know that you can read the news all day, kind of like we do, and just come away thinking, you know, everything's normal.
Because everything's bad, you're normal.
Your new normal becomes everything is always bad.
And you never stop to think about how policies are being pushed one way or the other.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, so, I mean, look, I've had deep conversations with other big podcasters and political personalities, and I'm not—you know, people have commented on how I said in the past, if YouTube came and banned me outright and just got rid of everything, I'm like, I'm gonna hop in the van, I'm gonna go down by the river and go fishing and just relax.
And I don't care if I have to, you know, if the rest of my life was backbreaking labor working on a farm to grow my own food and live a humble life.
But it's more about it's really hard to do right when it comes to information.
How many stories are we not talking about right now?
How many other people have been murdered across this country all day every day and we don't talk about them?
And so, to be honest, when I saw this first story, I'm like, man, I'm from Chicago.
You know, you show me a story like this and I roll my eyes and I say, welcome to, welcome, you know, some of the worst parts of this country.
These things happen.
And I think for this story, people took it very seriously, and I thought I was perhaps too jaded.
And I should highlight this, and I should talk about how the media has done a poor job fully recognizing that I think, even coming to the point where I felt like I should have talked about it in the first place, I feel like I'm just playing into the same media machine.
Oh, everybody starts talking about it, so then I jump on the train, and I'm like, oh, you know, look, now I'm concerned too.
And it's like, I'm concerned about all of this all the time.
But, you know, if you only hear from me, if you only watch my channels, then you're gonna get basically what I see.
And you don't see literally everything I see.
So people might have their perspective skewed by only watching my content.
One of the reasons I think YouTube is substantially better than basically any other news outlet is because I hear from a lot of people, they don't just watch me, they watch also Jimmy Dore.
Right.
Or Crowder.
And that's like, the YouTube platform has created an area where you have different opinions, sometimes arguing with each other, and debates.
So you're not getting pigeonholed by one media company that won't tell you everything and only wants it to be always negative and everything like that.
But I do think it's fair to point out, same goes for me, and literally anybody else, man, really, we only ever talk about bad things.
lydia smith
Well, and to be fair, there's only so many hours in the day.
There's only so many stories you can cover.
Like you cover a lot of stories.
You cover what, six different stories a day?
Like often combining things together.
And you can't cover everything.
We have like millions and millions of people in the country and a 24 hour news cycle.
There's just not a way to cover everything for everyone.
But yeah, I mean, the whole idea that it's constantly bad is kind of discouraging.
So I don't know how to fix that.
tim pool
The media... I think it's... Look, I can be self-critical.
I think it's important to do so.
And I think, you know, people can criticize me.
But I think I still try to do a good job.
I still think I do a good job.
I think we do a good job.
And I want to show you this image right here.
And I want to show you what a bad job is.
This is Covington Catholic, 4,450,000 results in a half second.
Canon Hinton, 187,000 results in, you know, 0.3 of a second.
There really is no coverage of this.
Think about what Covington Catholic is.
Covington Catholic was literally a kid standing.
lydia smith
Smirking.
tim pool
And everyone and their grandmother came out and they were like, can you believe this?
What makes viral outrage?
You know what I mean?
When I got sent that video of Covington, people were like, dude, did you see this?
And I was like, what is it?
And they were like, it's this kid.
And he got in front of a guy's face.
And I was like, it's just a video of a kid watching a guy drum.
lydia smith
I don't know what you care.
tim pool
What is this?
And I ignored it.
And then when I saw everyone talking about it, I actually started questioning it.
I found a video that showed the Native American walk up to the kid and I was confused.
I was like, what do you mean?
Like the Native American dude walked up to the kid.
Why is everybody angry about this?
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
That was national news.
Nobody wants it.
You know what it was?
A negative racial component.
lydia smith
You're right, that's consistent.
I don't like that.
tim pool
I know.
lydia smith
And I think this gets back to my point about racism.
I think this is why racism will never die.
Because it just drives the media and it drives the clicks and it drives the rage that people already kind of have and think they know it's part of history.
tim pool
And it's creating a psychotic worldview.
Let me show you this paragraph real quick.
They say, At the time of publication, a search of Kenan Hinton produced no results on the websites of ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NPR, New York Times, The Washington Post, Time, or Newsweek.
It appears that Fox News was the only mainstream media to cover the horrible death of the five-year-old boy.
International news outlets such as The Sun, Daily Mail, and The Independent have reported on the boy's murder.
We are being poorly served in this country.
lydia smith
Well, let's go to international places they're covering.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't get it, man.
I mean, I do, obviously, but what I mean is... Like, I understand why they do it.
Right.
Why they push the stories they push.
It's safe.
It's safe.
It's born out of, I think, a somewhat fair comedic space.
Where, early on, you had comics who had no problem ragging on white people.
Because it's like, listen, man, there's an argument about punching down, punching up, and there were comics who didn't care.
They'd punch any which direction they wanted to.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But there was some, you know, some things were considered, you know, too much.
Like I said, if you only are ever allowed to hear one side of an argument, then that's the direction you're going.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And so we've come to a point now where the news sees this, and I don't think it's necessarily a racist thing.
I think it's more of a, this story lines up with other stories that get traffic.
lydia smith
Right, maybe they don't even consider that there's a racial component here.
They're just like, oh, this has all the makings.
I'm not really going to put my finger on it because I don't care to think about it too much, but I'm just going to go with it because I know this is kind of in line with other stuff we've done that's really, really been big.
tim pool
Yeah, it's the incentive machine where like Facebook gives you, you get the numbers.
Like Twitter and Facebook, you can see those live metrics of your story doing well and this results in a negative feedback loop.
So these media companies are like, so actually it's a really good example of Mike.com.
I'm going to say my understanding, and based on what I've read, because I could be wrong about this, and I'm saying that for legal reasons, but initially they were very libertarian.
And it's really interesting to look at some conservative commentators and go back in their history on YouTube and see how anti-cop they were.
Very critical of police and police brutality, because the libertarians don't like the state beating people and having that authority too.
Now they're very pro-cop, and I do think it's not fair to say it's simply they flip-flopped.
It's that there's a difference between saying, like, please police, stop the violent riots, and supporting police brutality or something.
Because I don't think anybody supports that.
But what ends up happening is you get sites like Mike that would put up a video of police brutality and they would get, you know, they would see the live numbers and be like, whoa!
They'd put up a video of, you know, Ron Paul giving a speech and it'd be like, meh.
So then they said, we know what butters our bread.
Pump out that anti-police, you know, videos.
lydia smith
So do you think it's safe to say that watching what the media does with their metrics is kind of like a glorified version of what happens to people when they're watching their own metrics?
It's like, yeah, so you know how you can feel crappy or really great depending on how people are responding to stuff that you tweet or talk about on Facebook.
tim pool
You can't have that happen, man.
lydia smith
You really can't.
Like, how do you get away from that?
tim pool
A strong mental fortitude?
lydia smith
Do you think we should reform 230 as far as the news stories go?
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't think that's going to change how YouTube creates these feedback loops.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's true.
It's a little bit different.
tim pool
It's so annoying when I hear, like, people saying simultaneously Tim is the slowest red pill ever, and the left saying Tim flipped as soon as he saw a right-wing audience.
I'm like, this is just so stupid.
lydia smith
Schrodinger's red pill.
tim pool
It's just not—well, I think if you're on the left, I look like I'm on the right, and if you're on the right, I look like I'm on the left.
unidentified
Yeah, so it really is like a— Being a centrist!
lydia smith
It's an optical illusion.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's crazy when I talk to my friends and they're like, we're all in for Biden.
And I'm like, but he's the establishment politician who like supported war.
What are you talking about?
And like he gropes people and he smells girls.
Like it's weird.
lydia smith
Too many weird factors going on there.
tim pool
You know, I see that there's these viral Facebook posts.
One of them going around right now is about Confederate statues.
And it's a bunch of facts about the Confederacy.
And it frames the argument as though Trump likes the Confederacy.
Right.
You're giving me that look.
lydia smith
Yeah, so I'm giving Tim this look because I know and I think you guys probably also know that the Confederacy was not part of the Republican Party.
This was never a Republican Party line.
These were Democrats.
So the idea being pushed by our new historians, we have a new history now because they're just kind of rewriting it as they go along, is that Trump wants to do this in Gettysburg because he
tim pool
wanted to go to where the veterans lost. I saw a progressive journalist tweet out, so Trump
said he wants to do the acceptance speech for the RNC at maybe Gettysburg or the White House. And
then this progressive journalist quote tweeted it and said, why would you want to hold the
speech where your side lost? And I'm like, I read that. I was like, huh? And so I responded, the
Republicans won the Civil War.
lydia smith
Yeah, what? What are you talking about?
tim pool
It was the Democrats who lost.
Yeah, the Democrats were the Confederacy.
But this viral Facebook post is like, why are so many people now defending the Confederacy and why is Donald Trump talking about their statues?
And I'm like, yeah.
And I'm like, Donald Trump specifically referenced Jefferson and Grant and Hans Christian Haig and other heroes of the Civil War that were Republicans.
I mean, Jefferson and Washington weren't because they didn't exist.
lydia smith
Significant figures, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
And it was funny.
Somebody said, I saw one of the stupidest tweets, man.
What did they say?
Four score and seven years ago was 1933, which was the day of, like, you know, Hitler's ascension or some other ridiculous.
I know.
And I'm like, four score and seven years ago.
Is that is that what they're trying to allude to?
That he's actually going to Gettysburg, the place where where the Union won and crushed the.
lydia smith
That is some next level conspiracy theorizing.
I have to say, that's really impressive.
tim pool
You see what Jamie Lee Curtis posted?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, yeah.
tim pool
A mail truck on a flatbed trailer.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And she said the driver had a red hat with white letters.
lydia smith
Oh, you mean like towing companies use to put their, yeah.
tim pool
Are Trump supporters stealing mail trucks to win the election?
Yeah.
Probably.
lydia smith
That is the simplest explanation, Tim.
tim pool
It's, sometimes I feel like I'm trying to knock down a skyscraper with a little ball-peen hammer.
Like, how do you compete with the fake news machine when people are spreading memes like crazy that are just based off of fake news?
Trump is not coming out and saying he's defending the Confederacy.
He's coming out and saying, I was like, listen, the argument isn't about, for most people, Confederate statues.
It's about having a discussion, having a democratic process to determine, do we take it down, replace it?
Do we leave it up?
How do we take it down?
Instead, violent mobs are showing up with rope from other communities and ripping them from their bases.
And it's not even just about the Confederates.
It's literally about Grant, Hans Christian Hegg.
Somebody tore down Frederick Douglass in Rochester.
lydia smith
They tore down the elk.
I don't get it.
I don't understand.
So there has to be a process by which we take down statues we don't agree with.
And if you don't agree with the statue of an elk, I'm sorry for you.
You probably should reinvestigate yourself.
Seriously, what is wrong with you?
That thing was like 120 years old.
That made me sad.
That's crazy.
Like, why?
tim pool
Because it was built by colonialism or whatever stupid... That's such an easy answer.
lydia smith
Oh, it was built by colonizers.
So I'm just gonna knock the whole thing over.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you what, man.
If I were to tell you that these people were crazy, would you believe me?
lydia smith
Yes, I would.
tim pool
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know.
I think we have, uh, oh man.
Oh, should we talk about that one first?
lydia smith
Who are they?
Are they?
tim pool
No, we got to do this, man.
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
My friends.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine and they, uh, I was, I was, I was mentioning this.
They said like everybody donate to Joe Biden.
And I responded with, I will never vote for someone from the Obama administration.
Fool me once, you know, fool me twice, yada, yada, yada.
But pro-war, so no dice.
And I ultimately, you know, there was some conversation about, will they swap out Joe Biden with somebody else?
At this point, I don't think so.
I think it's Biden-Harris.
We're in it for the long haul.
Kamala Harris is clearly the frontrunner.
The ticket's inverted.
It's a silly game they're playing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But, you know, maybe before this happened, it was like maybe Cuomo.
And I ultimately said, at this point, I'm likely going to be voting for Trump.
And my friend was like, not happy with it.
Like, I trust you, I've known you, and I assume you've researched this.
And I said, listen man, in California they voted to repeal civil rights law.
Like, I understand if you're a white liberal who grew up in a wealthy suburb or middle class suburb, you don't have those stories in your life from your family about what it means to have accomplished civil rights.
I remember that photo.
You've seen the photo of Bernie Sanders being arrested during the civil rights movement?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's a famous photo and everyone cheers for Bernie for that.
The only problem is these people are trying to turn the clock back.
They don't support Bernie's ideas from when he fought for this.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
That meant a lot to me when I saw that photo of Bernie.
I'm like, man, here's a guy who actually fought for civil rights.
lydia smith
But OK, so this kind of kind of gets me too, because if you care about your friend and you know that your friend is, for example, mixed race and has a history of growing up in a mixed race household, wouldn't you be like, you know what?
I'm going to put myself in your shoes and try to understand where you're coming from and be like, maybe you're right.
Well, my friend into this is crazy.
unidentified
Good.
lydia smith
That's great.
tim pool
Yeah.
So that's what I'm saying.
You know, like these are people I've known my whole life and they literally said, I trust that you've done your research and you know what you're talking about.
But, you know, wow.
And then we had some, you know, minor private conversation and complete disagreement, but I just said, you know, do you know what it's like when you have a Democratic base in this country that has adopted a cult-like ideology based on literal racism?
What it means to my family and what we see when they literally voted to do this in California.
I'm like, all of a sudden, there are people I've known who, you know, I want to be vague enough about it, but people in my extended family who were immediately just like, they immediately saw that and they went, it's Trump it is.
lydia smith
Trump it is then!
tim pool
Like, we've lived through this.
lydia smith
Yeah, not again.
tim pool
We've lived through it.
Nope, sorry.
And I think, it's really easy for these leftists to say things like, We're going to do affirmative action, and it's going to be good for everybody.
Yes, there are some races that are probably going, it's good for me.
You know, if you're black in this country, they're telling you they'll benefit you, they'll give you more access if you're Latino.
If you're white or Asian, however, you know, they're saying the opposite.
But more importantly, what if you're a mix?
lydia smith
Yeah, the smallest minority, for example.
tim pool
And all of a sudden now, everything they're proposing is like, you go to the gutter.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
No matter what.
tim pool
Because, especially if you come from a family like mine.
Which brings me to actual good news!
lydia smith
Yeah?
tim pool
Good news, everybody.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Yale illegally discriminates against white and Asian students, Justice Department says.
Boom.
Yale University's undergraduate admission process illegally discriminates against white and Asian students.
A two-year investigation into the Ivy League school found that race is the determinative factor in hundreds of admissions each year in violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
The DOJ said, I'm clapping, a Yale spokeswoman responded, we are proud of Yale's admission practices and we will not change them on the basis of such a meritless, hasty accusation.
She's proud of being racist.
lydia smith
Two-year investigation is not a hasty accusation.
tim pool
When did Bill Barr come into play?
lydia smith
Oh, a year and a half ago?
tim pool
A couple years ago?
I don't care.
I don't care.
This is the DOJ, and he's running the DOJ, right?
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
Yeah, I like Bill Barr.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Look, man, I think affirmative action is... It's like a candy.
It's bait.
We're gonna do these things for you.
I'll tell you what.
You and I see from several polls over the past year, Trump really is doing well among African-Americans.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's been consistent.
tim pool
Yeah, it has been.
And there's polls from like Emerson, which found 30 or so percent.
Shocking numbers.
I think like Rasmussen has found shocking numbers consistently.
And Rasmussen nailed it for the popular vote in 2016.
They could be wrong, but could they be this wrong this often?
Maybe.
To be fair, maybe.
But it's a big difference between polling non-college-educated white people, which they can't do, and polling, you know, African-Americans in this country.
Right.
I feel like this is probably real.
I mean, I'm seeing these viral tweets where they're like, Trump is going to get an an-historic.
lydia smith
An-historic.
tim pool
An-historic.
lydia smith
They're just assuming he'll drop the H a little bit.
tim pool
I don't know.
An-historic percentage of the black community to vote for him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
But I've seen posts.
Everybody wants to tell you that it's true or it's not true.
I don't know.
What I will tell you is it certainly seems like the Democrats are operating as though it's true.
The panic.
Every big brand endorsing Black Lives Matter and pushing these things.
lydia smith
All the racial components, I think, I seriously think that the focus on race right now is because of the fact that Trump is doing well with them.
And I'm just reminded of the super, like, I forget what percent it was.
Do you remember what the black unemployment was at before coronavirus?
tim pool
No, but it was, like, historically low.
lydia smith
It was incredibly low.
It was the lowest it had been in, I think, 50 years.
Longer, maybe.
And I remember being like, how is the left going to respond to this?
And apparently it's by pulling out all the stops and going great guns.
tim pool
Burning down cities.
lydia smith
Burning everything down and just destroying the economy.
tim pool
I don't—we've seen the polls from Gallup, and they're behind every step of the way.
But I wonder if the whole intersectionality bit that they're embracing is because they think it will be popular among minority groups to act like—right!
I mean, especially if you're Asian.
Surprisingly, I've seen polls showing that while Donald Trump is doing tremendously well among the black community and the Latino community, not like—he's not beating the Democrats.
Right.
Still, the majority's— Way better than Republicans, right?
lydia smith
Historically have done.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But Asians still like Democrats.
Yeah.
Interestingly.
And I found that interesting.
There's a couple other things like maybe it's because they're lumping Asians with every other race on these polls when they put other.
Thanks.
Thanks.
lydia smith
Thanks, guys.
Jeez.
tim pool
That you can't get an accurate portrayal of it.
But it seems like, you know, their play isn't going to work.
I think I tell you what, man.
You've got, I think, people... I think, on average, people want to know the path to success.
And if you give someone a safe, clear path to success, they take it.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And when you back them into a corner and give them no options, they do what they have to do to survive.
And I think these Democrat-run cities are collapsing, they've become chaotic, and it is hurting marginalized groups more than ever.
lydia smith
100%, yeah.
tim pool
Let me tell you, I told you my story about the t-shirts when I was younger.
I think I may have mentioned it on the show before.
lydia smith
No, this doesn't sound familiar.
unidentified
Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, tell me.
tim pool
I'll tell you a story, and then I want to show you some racism from the mainstream media.
But I grew up on the south side of Chicago.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Very, very mixed.
There was this black dude who was mocking the gangbangers and other people, like I knew, who were selling drugs.
And he basically said, You can sell t-shirts, man, and make more money, and you don't go to jail.
So why would you sling dope?
That's the stupidest thing ever.
And, like, we were hanging out at a park, and people asked him, like, how do you sell t-shirts?
Like, you mean, like, on the highway?
He's like, listen, listen, listen.
Go find a venue, right?
You got these cafes, you got these venues.
They have these bands.
These bands will play, and they got no merch.
So you look at who's about to play, you call them up and say, here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna make t-shirts, I'm gonna bring them, and I'm gonna give you 20% of everything I sell.
And the band say, okay.
And he's like, I tell you what I do.
He's like, I put in a couple hundred bucks, I get a bunch of, like, not even the best shirts, you know, screen printed.
I bring them to the venue, I work one day a week, I make like two grand a week.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And everybody was like, whoa, these people on the South Side were told, like, you got to join a gang.
You got to sell drugs.
This is how you make money.
Nobody wants to work at McDonald's.
And this guy was like, T-shirts, bro.
lydia smith
That is fantastic.
tim pool
They just needed someone to tell them how to do it.
Trump is doing that.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Trump is saying, here's a job.
Here's a factory.
This is for you.
This is for your community.
It's going to help you succeed.
And people are saying, thank you.
I wanted this.
lydia smith
Okay, so that must be why his approval rating is so high.
Because people want to feel like... Talking about the news being so bad all the time.
tim pool
And before someone clips it, I mean literally all races, there are more poor white people in this country and they're being given a chance and an opportunity the same.
Right.
The opioid crisis is predominantly affecting, I think, white people.
lydia smith
Yeah, it is white people.
tim pool
And so I think why we're seeing such support from Latinos and from... This is interesting.
Trump's losing support among white people and it's probably because they're far-left intersectionalists.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then meanwhile, minorities are like, I like being, you know, like I'm like they're regular.
Like this country you'll find is why I can't stand racism.
Regular people.
We all tend to want the same things.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We want to we want to, you know, work a good day's work, earn our keep.
lydia smith
Feed your kids.
tim pool
Feed your kids.
lydia smith
That's it.
That's what you want.
tim pool
Feel accomplished.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
I did this.
I'm doing the right thing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think I think Trump helped create that.
COVID is destroying that.
lydia smith
I think people of every race across the spectrum, they want to feel a sense of hope.
And I think, I really think that that is something that Donald Trump has done really well with.
For all his other shortcomings, I have some issues with him.
Like I said, I don't really like what he's done with the deficit.
But again, I think that that is just stamp collecting.
Like Tim says, if you can give people that sense that there is something to be hopeful about, that's amazing.
Like that is actually caring about what American people want.
That's significant.
tim pool
I think about surviving versus succeeding, and I think people don't want to just survive, they want to succeed.
In order to succeed, you have to be shown a path, a light at the end of the tunnel.
When people lose hope, then they're just surviving, and survival can be dangerous, it can be crime, And poverty breeds crime.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's not always that these criminals are just evil who want to steal things.
I know AOC got dragged a lot for ignorantly suggesting that murder was overbred.
It wasn't.
lydia smith
Uh-oh.
tim pool
But to be fair, if I try to actually fix her statement, petty crime is actually way down, so she was wrong.
Murder is way up, she was wrong.
But there is a lot of crime based on survival.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But if you can give someone a job at a, say, meat processing plant, when Trump had federal law enforcement arrest non-citizen workers – I'm being diplomatic, I understand, I know – and these people got deported, we saw a bunch of people, locals, immediately took the job.
And it was people of all races.
And they were asked about it, and they said, this pays better than McDonald's.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So why were they bringing in, you know, non-citizen labor to do the job?
It makes you wonder.
Well, Trump, it was part of what he was doing that opened up these jobs to people who really just wanted an honest, good day's work, and they struggled to find it.
So Trump lowers unemployment.
This makes it, you know what's crazy is, There's a lot of, there's a lot of things about Trump and it's his character that really sets him back.
There were things he did early on that he didn't know what he was doing.
I think, you know, John Bolton is an easy, easy, easy example.
He's improved greatly.
He's calmed a lot.
He's calmed down a bit.
And he still has, he's still a man of bad moral character.
And I know some people are going to be like, what is that supposed to mean, Tim?
Come on.
Like what did he like cheated on his wife?
lydia smith
Yeah.
So he cheated on his wife and I, I, I don't know.
People talk about how he's not like the type of person that you'd have over for dinner, but you could vote for him.
And I'm like, fine.
I don't need you to be my best friend.
I need you to follow through on some of this stuff.
And in fact, I think that the concept of giving the American people hope is a mark of character.
To me, that marks out a lot of his other shortcomings.
That's huge.
That's a really big deal.
tim pool
He loses women because of it.
Because of the way he's like, you know, it's funny to see people laugh when he made fun of Rosie O'Donnell, but this is what contributes to him losing a lot of female voters.
I'll tell you what, though, Trump tweeted out recently, he's like, the suburban housewife is going to vote for me because she wants safety.
lydia smith
He might be right.
tim pool
I think so.
I think the riots were a big mistake and Democrats should have denounced it.
Now they want to bring on Kamala as though she's going to be their law and order savior.
And it's like, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
If you've got riots and you respond with a despot, you've created two extremes that I don't want anything to do with.
Okay?
Peaceful protest is fine.
Riots are bad.
Kamala locking up people in very crazy and cringy and scary ways.
Not okay.
lydia smith
Two things can be bad at once, apparently.
tim pool
You've just adopted two authoritarian standpoints on this.
Great.
Let me show you this tweet.
It's an eye roll.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
tim pool
Julia, how do you pronounce her name?
Ioffe?
lydia smith
Ioffe.
tim pool
Ioffe?
lydia smith
Ioffe, yeah.
tim pool
Is that really how you pronounce it?
lydia smith
It's Italian.
I'm just kind of making it up.
tim pool
Here's the story.
Washington Post.
Justice Department accuses Yale of illegal bias against white Asian Americans.
And she says Bill Barr is fighting hard for white folks.
What?
But what?
She completely ignored Asians.
lydia smith
Dude, it's like they don't exist.
And I don't understand that.
tim pool
They don't care.
This is why I said I don't believe that the liberals of this country have a high care marker in their moral foundations.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I care about white people and Asian people.
I care about black people and Latino people, and I want everyone to have a laugh and hang out and play music together.
I don't get it.
You know what, man?
I am not conservative.
And as much as it's crazy how the left tries to frame it, and I think it really easily comes down to like, I mean, for one, abortion issues.
Like, I'm very clearly liberal on so many of these issues that have been historically aligned with Democrats, but the left has just jumped off the cliff.
And I say it enough, but it's true.
And so now when I see people like, Juliet, we know you're ignoring that Asians exist.
Like this was the primary target of these universities because the largest proportion of people who are going there were Asian.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And guess what?
The best part is Asian doesn't just mean one race.
These people are so racist.
lydia smith
That is incredibly racist.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Let's try.
Let's play a game.
Okay.
Filipinos are Asian.
Chinese people are Asian.
Indians are Asian.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
Malaysians and I mean you can some people would say Pacific Islander for some
countries but no like it is it is an eclectic diverse region that what people
don't realize when it comes to how they actually chart whether you're Asian or
not Indian immigrants are one of the highest proportions of people who get
into these schools and they assume it's all like you know Asian as in Chinese or
something.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
That's what they see in their head.
And you get things like Joe Biden, you know, when he said, the average person can't tell the difference between, you know, someone from Korea or China or something.
I can't believe, I'm like, have you ever seen these people, dude?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What are you talking about?
lydia smith
To me, Joe Biden erasing, like, the presence of Indian people and Indonesian people and Filipino people, Kind of shocking, because I would never do that, and they call me racist all day and night, but I actually care about Asian people going to Yale.
tim pool
That's significant.
It really annoys me to beat the dead horse that we know the Democrats have adopted racism as a strategy to try and win, and I wonder if what they're thinking is, Racists exist in all races.
I know this personally from visiting South Korea and from having Korean family.
They're really racist.
They're not just racist against other Asian countries.
They're racist against everybody.
lydia smith
It unites us.
We're all just kind of racist.
tim pool
It is changing.
So I visited South Korea and it's really fascinating.
I've been told outright by many people who are like probably Gen X-er, boomer, that if I actually grew up there or tried to live there, I'd be treated like a second-class citizen.
I'm not— I understand, you know, I'm mostly white and all that stuff, but I have, you know, family history in Seoul and in some other towns, and they were like, no way.
They're like ethno-supremacists.
It's changing with the younger generations.
So I don't know— I don't want to pretend like I know everything about the country, because I've only visited it— I've only been there, I think, one time.
And I didn't spend an extended amount of time there.
And even, you know, my mom is born and raised in America.
But that I've been told this by regional experts, journalists.
And when I went there, like they're they're they're like super racist.
And Japan is, too.
lydia smith
I have heard that. Yeah. Yeah.
tim pool
And so we end up with this story.
I have it a million times because this to me, California Proposition 16
repeal Prop 209 Affirmative Action Amendment was like I didn't believe it.
I didn't believe it.
I didn't know it existed until they'd already voted on it.
And then it was Tucker Carlson who brought it up.
It's gotta be a joke, right?
He does his homework.
civil rights legislation from their constitution in California and I went
there's no way that's true there's no joke but I don't I don't think Tucker
Carlson's a liar. He does his homework. I might disagree.
He's had some questionable moments like when it came to pot legalization and there was
um I mean what was it he had he had somebody on I can't remember
There's been a few moments where I'm like, come on.
But for the most part, I think he's the best guy on TV.
I really do.
And I think even if you disagree with him, he's a general populist.
And it's crazy how I say this, and all of a sudden the left screams and they take a screengrab of it and they're like, Tim is praising Tucker Carlson!
Tucker Carlson's far right!
Blah blah blah!
He's not...
lydia smith
Not really.
tim pool
He's not.
Did you see that exchange between him and Hannity when he was like, companies profiting off of a pandemic?
lydia smith
That was so weird to me.
I was like, I kind of knew that about Sean Hannity, although I have, I have independently limited my exposure to Sean Hannity as much as possible for obvious reasons.
But seeing that exchange between him and Tucker was like, oh my gosh, dude.
tim pool
Tucker's face.
Because he's like transferring the show and Hannity goes, these are Fox News personals, most of you probably know that.
And he's like, if a business wants to provide a service and they make good, you know, money off it, so be it.
And then Tucker did the brow thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where he's like, looked at the camera.
lydia smith
Labrador thing.
tim pool
The Labrador thing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
This is what you can show your friends.
California Prop 16, Repeal Proposition 209, Affirmative Action Amendment 2020.
They say a yes vote supports the constitutional amendment to repeal provision 209 which says the state cannot discriminate against or grant preferential preferential treatment to persons on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin in public employment, public education and public contracting.
To be very, very clear, it's specifically about state-level public employment, education, and contracting.
They call it the Affirmative Action Amendment.
I believe that is unfair, because all it does is strike this language that stops the state from discriminating.
However, repealing it would allow them to do affirmative action.
Me?
I don't care.
I don't care what you call it.
I don't care what you think it's going to do for you.
This right here should be more than enough for anybody to be like, how is this literally a thing?
Listen, we recently had a Supreme Court ruling saying that sex meant gender identity and orientation.
Will that impact what this legislation means now?
lydia smith
Better believe it.
tim pool
So does that mean that in California, if they repeal this, there can be a public job announcement saying, you know, straight white men only.
lydia smith
Of course.
tim pool
And it would be legal.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I can't, I show this to my friends.
They don't know it exists.
And what's going to happen is come November, it's going to be on the referent, it's going to be on the, there's going to be a referendum for it.
And then people are going to be like, oh, affirmative action, you know, they're going to boop.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And there it is.
They say California is a few years away from... They're a few years ahead of the rest of the country.
lydia smith
A few years ahead of us.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
And I found this to be true.
tim pool
I mean.
lydia smith
Almost all the time, unfortunately.
tim pool
They banned Uber.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
So, for those that don't know, I think Uber is done in California.
lydia smith
Yeah, because of the gig workers.
They're trying to make equal rights for gig workers and cancelling people's jobs and livelihoods.
Like, first it was the journalists, right?
The freelance writers.
And now it's Uber and Lyft drivers.
People who are just trying to make a little extra money on the weekend.
And it's like, what are you doing?
tim pool
So this was a Democratic proposal.
It's called Assembly Bill 5.
It limits gig workers.
It was pushed heavily by unions.
And the journalists, man, when they started freaking out, right away I was like, I can't hire contractors in California.
Okay, good to know.
I mean, you can, but like once or twice.
Basically, I think journalists can only write 35 times.
But some of these contractors have multiple contracts.
This makes sense.
The way I explain it is, Let's say you like to pick up pieces of wood on the beach and whittle it into a little boat.
You did that work and then you say, I say to you, I say, Lydia, I have this little Tim, this little man.
lydia smith
It's adorable.
tim pool
It's a little me.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's really cute.
tim pool
And I have made such art, I would like to sell it to you.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
And the state says you can't do that because you're not an employee.
lydia smith
Oh.
tim pool
That's what AB5 basically is doing now.
If I write something and want to sell it to a company, I can't now.
The state is telling me I can't literally sell a good.
It gets complicated now when it comes to Uber.
The way Uber and Lyft essentially was working was that, you do your thing, man.
We'll just connect you with people.
lydia smith
Right.
Which is fantastic.
tim pool
A judge ruled that Uber has to have all the people be employees.
And so, I guess Uber said this, right?
They were like, if you don't rethink this, California, we will shut down Uber in the entire state.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Talk about a state with bad leadership burning itself to the ground.
I was talking to a friend in L.A.
who said it's worse than it's ever been.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was talking to a friend in Fresno who said the exact same thing.
tim pool
Garbage is everywhere.
lydia smith
Dude, violence.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
You can witness anything you like on your front, you know, your front porch.
tim pool
This brings me back to, like, the media bias.
I wonder, like, how many of you listening or watching live in a rural area or a suburban area?
lydia smith
I'd be curious to know.
tim pool
Yeah, because we're in the suburbs, so we don't see what's going on in the big cities.
I mean, we're not going to go there.
lydia smith
Nope, I'm good.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to go there.
But I was reading an article about New York, for one, mass exodus.
The moving companies are straight up like, it's moving day and we're overwhelmed and overbooked to move people out of New York City.
But I was reading from other people who said that the city really is barren, like Manhattan especially, because there's no stores.
And I'm like, I kind of want to see it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Empty streets.
lydia smith
Well, that would have been kind of like driving across California with absolutely no one else on the street.
It was surreal.
When we were driving through L.A., the streets were open, wide open.
It was rush freaking hour.
It was 5 p.m.
and there was no one on the road.
And I felt like I was in a zombie movie.
It was so strange.
And then when I went to Philly, I went to Philly a couple of weeks ago.
And I don't know if it was because of coronavirus or because Philly is a dump.
But there was garbage everywhere.
Like it was piled on the street corners.
I saw a rat.
I saw my first rat in Philadelphia.
I was like, this is wonderful.
I'm really glad to be here.
This is very enriching.
tim pool
Get out of the cities.
lydia smith
Dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Like who would stay there?
And we, and I walked past these really, really nice apartments.
I was like, I wonder how much these apartments cost to rent because right in front of them, whoops, bumped my mic.
There's this huge like wall of garbage and just literally rats running through it.
And I was like, oh dude, I would never live here.
tim pool
The rats can't get food anymore because there's no scraps.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
So they're coming out and hunting.
During the day, dude.
I read something about somebody getting chased by rats, I think.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Maybe this was not real.
lydia smith
I hope not.
tim pool
Sounded like a bad tweet.
Yeah, you gotta Google it.
Fact check me on this one.
I remember seeing a tweet where they were talking about how in all of these cities, because there's no food anymore, the rats are starting to starve.
So they're coming out desperate and they're going on hunts in packs.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
And did you see the rat war?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like rat gang wars.
Because they fight over food.
lydia smith
That sounds right.
tim pool
Remember the baboon gang war?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It was baboons, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, because there were no more tourists.
tim pool
Yup.
lydia smith
Yeah, and they would flock out into the street.
tim pool
Man.
We've created like, I don't know, what do you call that?
lydia smith
Animal dystopia?
tim pool
It's like, in our wake as human civilization, we have created dependent subclass communities.
lydia smith
Pigeons and rats and these monkeys overseas.
Oh man.
tim pool
You know what's always tripped me out?
Pigeons are literally our garbage turning into living things and flying away.
lydia smith
That is a horrible, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, if I told somebody like, in America, our garbage grows wings and flies away.
People would be like, what are you talking about?
unidentified
Hear me out.
lydia smith
Sounds crazy.
tim pool
A guy's walking down the street, he's got a cheeseburger in his hand, and he slams it on the ground because he's lazy and, you know.
And now there's festering food, a pigeon swoops down, they all eat it.
That food breaks it down in their bellies, turns into eggs and more pigeons.
Our garbage literally gets converted into birds.
lydia smith
That's interesting.
tim pool
And then our garbage flies away.
lydia smith
And then comes back to pester us.
tim pool
I mean, not really.
Pigeons kind of, well, they poop on stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But have you ever seen a baby pigeon?
lydia smith
They're so ugly.
tim pool
You've never seen one, have you?
lydia smith
No, well, I haven't seen one in person.
tim pool
You Googled one.
lydia smith
Yeah, I did Google one because they're really freaking weird looking.
tim pool
I think it is a privilege.
I think it is a privilege that our garbage flies away.
Could you imagine if there were no pigeons?
Garbage everywhere just rotting in the streets.
lydia smith
That's true.
tim pool
Pigeons clean it up and they leave.
But yeah, so now because there's no people, the pigeons are flying off.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's easy for them.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But the rats have nowhere to go.
They're coming out of the ground.
They're coming out in packs.
You know what, man, we can, we can complain about Antifa and the far left all day and night, but you know what really scare me?
Like if I see an Antifa guy, I know there's certain limits to what they've done and what they can do.
If I see a far right guy, like I'll avoid them both.
I mean, far right is in like, you know, the colloquial, like the real extremist, whatever.
If I see an extremist, I don't care what their political ideology is.
I'll go the other way.
I'm on my own business.
I see a large group of rats like running around ravenous.
I'm running full speed.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
tim pool
Because you get rabies.
lydia smith
Yep.
I don't know, maybe.
You get all sorts of illnesses.
Yeah.
Okay, the bubonic plague was carried by rats.
I'm just going to throw that out there.
tim pool
Well, that was the fleas, wasn't it?
lydia smith
Yeah, so the fleas on the rats.
unidentified
Okay.
lydia smith
So if you touch a rat, obviously you're in deep trouble.
tim pool
But rabies, man.
I mean, I don't want to end up like Joe Jorgensen.
lydia smith
That's what I was just going to say.
You don't want to get bitten by a bat.
We're supposed to be the ones biting the bats, not vice versa.
tim pool
That was a crazy thing.
Did you guys see this?
Joe Jorgensen, she's a libertarian candidate.
unidentified
She got bit by a bat, had to get a... She had to go get shots, like a series of shots.
lydia smith
A rabies shot.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
I hope she's okay.
I really mean it.
I mean, this is like a crazy thing to happen.
Look, you know, when I see stories like this, I can't help but laugh at the absurdity of it.
lydia smith
Don't you have to wonder what she was doing to get bit by a bat?
Like, she wasn't exactly on stage like Ozzy Osbourne trying to bite the bat, and the bat was just like, oh my gosh, I need self-defense.
She was probably just like, I don't know, cleaning her attic or something?
It's so weird to me.
I was like, how do you get bitten by a bat?
That's kind of cool.
tim pool
I've seen a bat one time out here.
lydia smith
Uh-huh.
tim pool
So, we've got a deck.
Like, you can go on and it's like, you know, it's elevated.
And I've seen, like, they're kind of weird when you see them.
lydia smith
I think they're birds at first.
tim pool
But they fly weird.
They flop around.
And if they bite you, you gotta get a bunch of shots in your stomach or something?
lydia smith
Those are the rabies shots.
tim pool
Have you ever seen that happen?
lydia smith
I have not seen that happen.
tim pool
Do you know how it works?
lydia smith
Yeah, so I didn't work in a doctor's office.
I would see the nurses administer some of the shots.
I mean, and you would go and get shots from the nurses, charge nurse and doctors who were there.
But I never saw a rabies shot administered.
Some of them you got to get in your butt.
Sounds horrible.
For rabies?
No, not rabies.
Rabies is the stomach.
tim pool
Your stomach.
lydia smith
Also awful.
tim pool
We're like into your stomach.
I don't think it's the organ.
lydia smith
I think it's into the adipous tissue there, as far as I know.
unidentified
Weird.
lydia smith
So your belly fat, I believe.
Fact check me on this one.
tim pool
Man, I'm glad we have these vaccines, dude.
Rabies is scary.
lydia smith
I am too, but it sounds awful.
tim pool
People think it's like a zombie thing.
It's not.
lydia smith
Not at all.
tim pool
You can't swallow.
You keep spitting.
You start convulsing.
lydia smith
I think it dehydrates you really bad.
tim pool
Yeah, because you can't swallow.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
And then you get foaming at the mouth.
You do not want to get bit by a rat, man.
lydia smith
Don't get bit by a bat either.
We'll turn you into a libertarian.
tim pool
Well, for most of you, you probably know, we'll mention this.
Crowder got his money back.
lydia smith
He did.
Yeah, this is really cool.
tim pool
YouTube will let Steven Crowder run ads after a year-long suspension for harassment.
I think that's BS.
I don't think he actually got suspended for harassment.
I think they said he didn't break any rules, didn't they?
lydia smith
Well, the thing with Carlos, right, Carlos Maza, I think is what they're considering harassment or whatever.
So it sounds like classic YouTube nonsense.
I don't really know if it was actual harassment or it's just YouTube's interpretation.
tim pool
You know what I think?
I think they were like, we have no choice because of the media wave.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
To do something?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But don't worry, we'll figure it out.
lydia smith
Well, I remember thinking at the time, I was like, there's so much pressure on them to do something.
Kind of like they're trying to exert pressure on Facebook right now.
They have to do something.
So they're probably going to like suspend him or whatever.
And they sure did for a whole year, dude.
So why did they decide to give him his ads back?
tim pool
They were always reviewing him.
All the time?
My understanding is that he had to clean up his act.
There were certain things he couldn't have on the show, but they would reinstate him.
It is interesting, he didn't break any rules, but they were like, it's a rock and a hard place.
I think they should have stood firm.
But there is a legitimate challenge when, like, if somebody came to me and said, we are going to shut down your entire business completely, you know, unless you do one small thing, you'll find a lot of people would say yes to it.
Like for me, for instance, I won't say the name of the creepy whistleblower guy because they'll delete the stream instantly.
And for me, I have my line.
unidentified
Well, we like talking to people, so we're not... Well, no, no, like, I'll tell you what, like, I cannot say someone's name.
tim pool
I'm like, whatever.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But, like, you know, when it came to... I did a segment on masks and, like, hydroxychloroquine and stuff, and I'm like, if they ban me, they ban me.
Like, I swear to God, like, I have my limits.
If the news is legit and it's certified and we've got doctors, I'm saying it.
You know what I mean?
And maybe they'll give me the X.
But I think what's happening is YouTube is saying, listen man, everybody will lose their monetization in an adpocalypse unless we do something.
So you can jump on the grenade or adpocalypse.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And I think YouTube said, you know, that's what we're going to go for.
I completely disagree with this, with doing these things.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I think, you know, there are lines and limits.
Like, if I don't say a guy's name, I can still let you know that there is a name you can't say.
You can Google this, and it has to do with a CIA whistleblower, and Ukraine, and, you know, now you'll find the person, and you can then investigate yourself.
If I get myself banned, I can't tell you that.
However, I will never withhold vital and important news, even if it means the end.
YouTube deciding I can sacrifice an individual because we're scared for the collective, to me, is how you get into authoritarianism.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So Crowder, who broke no rules, gets negatively impacted.
And I'm not OK with that.
lydia smith
Yeah.
What's that saying?
You've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
You're willing to sacrifice a few people to the greater good.
tim pool
What is it like a deontological philosophy versus?
lydia smith
I think that's what it is, but I haven't really gotten into that very much.
tim pool
Yeah, like I think utilitarian is like the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few versus deontological
where it's like You must protect the individual because the individual
there is no collective without an individual.
Yeah, I'm toward the end of that.
I think YouTube was wrong in this.
I think Crowder broke no rules, and if they came to me and said, there's an adpocalypse because of what Crowder did, I'd be like, well, Crowder didn't do anything wrong, so that's your responsibility.
And while you're going to lose ad revenue now, I'd be like, that's too bad, isn't it?
I would not support a negative action against someone who did no wrong to benefit myself.
YouTube should have absolutely stood their ground and said, he didn't break any rules.
Sorry.
lydia smith
You're stronger than YouTube, I think.
They're being kind of weak.
tim pool
Hopefully.
How about we do Super Chats?
lydia smith
Yes, let's do it.
tim pool
Super Chats.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
David Mesmer says, Would you still consider inviting Adam on Friday jam sessions?
I think that would satiate the actual peaceful protesters in the chat.
It makes for a really nice start to the weekend.
Yeah, I think there's, like, you know, I know a lot of people want Like a legitimate deep dive breakdown of everything that happened.
And it's really just personal issues.
It's not the biggest deal in the world.
It's not.
I just, I try to respect people's privacy.
So we have to see how, you know, things go and how changes happen.
And I'm, I'm sure most of the super chats are going to be specifically about this.
So I'll try to, you know, I'll do my best to answer the best I can.
It's about all I can do.
And the super chats are bouncing around, making it difficult.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Caitlin Robinson says, you guys are awesome.
Just so you know, the Justice for Canon GoFundMe has now raised $225,000!
Whoa!
That's awesome!
lydia smith
Okay, that makes me really happy.
tim pool
Definitely.
lydia smith
I really like that.
tim pool
I was bummed when I read that it was only a few thousand.
lydia smith
I was too.
And it's not going to bring him back, but it's going to help his family.
That's really neat.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, first off, I would like to say I'm disappointed in the chat's behavior.
Yes, Adam is gone, but he wouldn't like to see you guys acting like this.
Anyway, I live in a rural farm.
Think I told you this during the Chazz Farm.
It's all pro-Trump out here.
I'd be willing to bet it's pro-Trump everywhere.
As much as we're talking about the silent majority, I've not seen Biden signs.
lydia smith
I really haven't either.
tim pool
I've seen Trump flags and signs.
lydia smith
You better believe I've been looking for him.
We drove past that little lake again and guess what is still there in the middle of the lake?
It's really bleached.
You can hardly see it.
There's a bunch of grass and like pot lip lily pads and everything.
tim pool
It's a Trump flag.
lydia smith
Yeah, it is.
It's not a Biden flag.
tim pool
It is a swamp.
lydia smith
I've never seen one of those.
tim pool
It's not even a lake.
lydia smith
The Garden State is taking over.
tim pool
In the winter, you could see the water.
lydia smith
Yeah, because everything was dead.
tim pool
And then I guess, I don't know, it's kind of crazy to describe this because it's not something you can't get a boat into.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what did they do?
lydia smith
Just walk across the lily pads at this point.
I have no idea how they got in there.
tim pool
You can't.
If you fell in that, you'd be under, like a, it's a swamp.
It's like, it looks like it's, it looks like a field.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's, it's, you know, it's not, it's, you know.
lydia smith
It's horrible.
tim pool
And they did it.
Raul says, keep on rocking in a free world.
Great stream.
Appreciate it.
Let's see, where are we at?
Tankion says, Adam, you need to see our bats in Australia.
They are basically flying rabid dogs.
They'll take your head off.
lydia smith
Oh man, those things are huge.
tim pool
Yikes, man.
lydia smith
Everything's huge there.
tim pool
Let's see.
Anthony Zolman says, Adam is the Paul to Tim's John and Lydia's George.
These beetles have no Ringo.
Von P says, no Adam, no peace.
Say his name.
Adam lives matter.
Superman, uh, if he wasn't scared of green rocks, says, I really appreciate it.
that all of this is holy. Keep doing the show. There are thousands of people who watch you
and count on you to be our voices. You are all important to our community and the information
you provide is worth more than you think. I really appreciate it. We're going to keep
doing the show and yeah. So also I shout out you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram
at Tim cast and parlor.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
I think I got to figure out what a point now.
There you go.
tim pool
That's with an L-Y-D-S.
And also for those that want more straight news.
So this show is kind of conversational society and culture.
I think that's actually how iTunes has listed it.
lydia smith
Yeah, society and culture.
tim pool
If you want the boring news, and I don't think it's that boring, you can go to TimCast.net.
That's my main channel.
It's very straightforward.
And then from there, it's like my whole network and a bunch of other shows.
So I do a video every day at 4 p.m.
Then we do the live show later.
I actually put up an insane amount of work because I don't sleep or, you know, whatever.
But check out TimCast.net if you haven't.
Most of you probably already know about it.
There's more segments up.
It's basically just me talking to the camera.
But subscribe to my channel.
John Hill says, Well, YouTube is doing it again.
When I tried looking up your videos in my subscriptions, they weren't there just to let you know.
Also, no matter who wins, November 9th is going to be nuts.
I don't think we're gonna know who wins.
This is gonna be... That's optimistic.
lydia smith
Yeah, November 9th would be awfully earlier than I would be expecting to know.
tim pool
Yeah?
lydia smith
Yeah, it'll be crazy.
tim pool
Scott Rogers says, do you remember when we used to dance and incidents arose from circumstance?
One thing led to another.
We were young and we would scream together songs unsung.
It was the heat of the moment.
unidentified
Yes, it was.
lydia smith
Indeed.
I remember that song.
tim pool
JMaxx says, sad to see Adam go but I'm also excited for him and for you guys as well.
Now more than ever it's important to learn to agree to disagree with friends and family.
If we're going to make this country work, we have to be able to live side by side.
And Adam has a channel, it's AdamCastIRL on YouTube and he's got a ton of subscribers and he's literally here setting up a studio and you can watch his stuff.
I don't think so either.
below LocalPoco says, neither party has changed dramatically.
Only your own perceptions of them have changed.
Both are basically in the same positions they have held since the 1960s.
Demo media propaganda worked.
I don't agree.
lydia smith
I don't think so either.
tim pool
There's videos of Bernie Sanders, of Joe Biden, of Chuck Schumer being like, we need strong
borders and a border barrier.
lydia smith
It's the Koch brothers' proposal.
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Who's that Bernie?
I don't see anybody like that anymore.
tim pool
Who's that Bernie?
You're breaking my heart, Bernie.
I think Bernie, he betrayed.
He's corrupted by money.
He's a betrayal.
Trump, you know what's funny?
I was never on Trump's team, but Trump didn't betray his positions.
lydia smith
He didn't?
tim pool
No, I think he failed some of them, but I think he stayed true to what he said he was going to do.
Yeah. He said, I want to build a big beautiful wall. Well, he got his barriers in key locations and he improved a lot
of it.
So I'm like, I gotta admit, I don't care about the wall. It's never been
an issue for me.
lydia smith
There's so many other ways to combat illegal immigration.
tim pool
It's not even about that. It's like, I understand how it benefited the economy and I started to
recognize like, oh, I get it now.
I understand what he's doing.
It wasn't a key issue for me.
Maybe it should have been.
And I think what ended up happening is, I'll tell you what, where the Democrats messed up is opposing their own positions.
And then me questioning why it is they were mad about the wall in the first place.
And then reading about it and being like, oh, that makes sense.
When they could have just been like, we've always agreed with this too.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Hillary Clinton said we need a border barrier.
You know?
lydia smith
I remember.
I came up with so many videos of them talking about this stupid border wall.
tim pool
And so if they came out and said, we, you know, Trump wants to build a wall, it's a little bit out.
Like, imagine if Hillary Clinton stuck true to the border barrier and said, a wall?
We want to build barrier fencing that's practical, reasonable, and cost effective.
You're going to build a big giant wall, like, by all means, you do it.
It would have sounded a bit more reasonable.
And I think the problem the Democrats have is that Donald Trump has moderate positions that most Americans agreed with for a long time, and the Democrats chose to oppose them instead of offering up a better take on them.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's why I think, like, debate is essential.
Because it's died.
They didn't offer good ideas.
tim pool
I have an analogy for it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Imagine Donald Trump walks in and he goes, we're going to order a double pepperoni pizza, the best pizza.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And you go, man, I don't like pepperoni.
So the Democrats go, then we hate pizza.
We hate pizza too.
lydia smith
Like, wait, I know.
I don't like.
tim pool
Well, hold on.
No.
I just, I just, I just want, you know, like sausage, you know what I mean?
Or, you know, tomatoes and, you know, whatever.
lydia smith
Can I get bacon?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah.
Like I didn't say I didn't want any pizza, but they decided to go the extreme route.
You know, it's like a stupid thing to do.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't like it.
tim pool
John Kerner says, Tim, once again a huge fan of your work.
Your videos red-pilled and led me to register to vote.
East coaster here.
My lifelong best friend listens live from LA.
Please tell him once again, tell Justin to register to vote.
Justin!
lydia smith
Yes, Justin?
tim pool
Register to vote!
lydia smith
Come on, man.
tim pool
You know, I always do say, too, because I assume, like I've said it a million times, I feel like I've been backed into a corner.
I have to vote for Trump.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It would change.
You know, I think it's funny.
I got a text message from from Jack Murphy.
So you guys probably know who Jack Murphy is because he wrote he wrote the book on it.
Democrat to Deplorable.
lydia smith
Literally.
Yeah.
tim pool
And he like after the last show earlier this week, he was like, Tim, is it true you're voting for Trump?
And I'm like laughing.
lydia smith
I'm like, OK, too.
And I was like, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Jack's, he's a cool dude.
He's a great dude.
Check out his book.
lydia smith
He was one of our guests.
tim pool
He was early on.
Jack's a cool dude.
And he was like, just, you know, having fun with it.
And I'm like, look, man, I'm, I'm, I'm upset about it.
lydia smith
Honestly, dude, I wish that I were more excited about where we're at.
See, I wish that I was excited.
I wish I had a candidate that I was really gung-ho about.
Like, I wish I felt like a Bernie bro.
I wish I felt like really on fire for somebody, but you know what?
I would just like the country to not look like Antifa wants it to.
tim pool
People try to, it's funny how people have like conspiracy theories.
Man, I tell you, to the best of my ability, I am honest every step of the way.
I probably, my opinions change.
Some people don't like it.
I read new information.
I kind of say, oh wow, I didn't consider that.
And it happens.
But I will tell you the truth.
When I say I'm not, like as a president, I wouldn't normally vote for someone like Trump.
I'm begrudgingly now feeling like I have to do it because of the repealing of civil rights law and all this stuff.
But I'm going to admit it.
I'm going to straight up admit it.
I have no problem.
I told my friend straight up when she was like, everybody donate to Biden.
I'm like, I'm probably going to vote for Trump.
And I don't care.
You can get mad at me.
If you won't give me the time of day, you want my friend to begin with.
But of course, I keep my friends close.
The friends that I have are good people and they literally don't... It's a small circle.
Yeah, I definitely do.
I'm in my house all day, every day.
I don't go anywhere anymore.
No, but I mean, I'll say it straight up.
You know, a lot of people were like, we, I see a lot of posts are like, we know Tim's secretly going to vote for Trump anyway, he just won't admit it.
I'm like, no, no, no, it was not until the riots for the most part.
Cause earlier this year, I was like, I want to see Tulsi as a national security advisor.
I want to see Yang as an economic advisor.
I want to see Trump and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And I want to see a legal, you know, a pardon for nonviolent marijuana offenders for the most part.
And I was like, and then, and then, and then everything went insane.
And then Donald Trump did try to withdraw our troops in the Middle East, and I was like, OK, you know.
You know what, man?
I kind of feel obligated to my 16-year-old self to support Trump's efforts in withdrawing our troops in the Middle East.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
At the very least.
I was out in the street protesting in Chicago.
I was marching and I was yelling.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I wrote songs about it.
lydia smith
To be consistent.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And now it's I'm 34 and I can't believe I don't think I think I was maybe like 17 or 18.
I can't remember exactly when this was.
And now I can't believe that I'm 34 and only now are we getting to the point where it's like we're not going to be in this country anymore.
That's insane to me.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's so stupid.
But I got to give credit where credit is due.
lydia smith
I love that he's doing it.
Love to see it.
tim pool
Flat Earth Vegan Amy says, I'm a USPS worker.
What's the deal with Trump vs. Post Office?
They blame Trump but USPS is to Amazon as blockbusters to Netflix.
Post Office leaks money.
Antiquated.
I'm conflicted.
I don't know for the most- I don't know completely.
My general understanding is COVID.
Like, there's a budget shortfall for everybody.
And they want Trump, I guess, to give them more funding.
lydia smith
Yeah, so it's part of their coronavirus relief effort.
They're like, you are going to give billions of dollars to the USPS.
And he's like, they're not going to get it.
And I was like, I mean, I think that the reason they really, really want it right now is so they can do all their mail-in voting, which Kind of makes sense to me that they're using it as a political pawn.
You should do that with the USPS.
tim pool
I didn't actually listen to the recording, but I think Trump said specifically, like, they're just doing this because they want mail-in voting.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
And then everyone's like, he admitted it!
It's like, yeah, but so what?
lydia smith
I went and found that article and I clipped the direct quote of what he had said, and it was not what they're saying in the headlines.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Given the full context, he's talking about how this, to him, seems like a bargaining chip for them, which it shouldn't be.
He's like, this isn't going to work for us.
We need to figure some other compromise out.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
It is a fact that the Democrats are dangling food over people who are starving and in need.
They're dangling over them and demanding, like, voter stuff and, like, they want to remove voter signature verification.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And voter ID.
Yeah.
And so what they're doing is, one of the Republicans are saying, see all those angry, starving people?
Well, if you want them fed, you give us, we want to ban signature verification?
lydia smith
What?
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
That's an essential part of feeding hungry people is banning signature verification on ballots.
Just go with it.
tim pool
I feel like this is how it's been reported, okay, by multiple outlets.
And I'm sure there's probably some nuance to it, because I know there's a lawsuit that says it's not that they want to ban it.
They want to open up the opportunity to fix your signature.
But either way, I'm kind of like, what does that have to do with giving people unemployment checks so they can pay their rent?
lydia smith
Nancy Pelosi was talking about how essential it was, how this couldn't wait, how people are depending on this.
And now they're taking recess till September, till Labor Day?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
Totally inconsistent.
They don't care.
They don't care at all.
I hate it.
tim pool
I think they just want to win.
They want power.
And I get really, really frustrated seeing people say things like, you know, why aren't we getting our paychecks?
Congress is, you know, in the Senate.
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Trump is saying straight up, we're going to get you this stuff.
Now, to be fair, Republicans wanted to ax the bonus to 200 bucks.
I'm sure that would make people angry, but I don't think there should have been a bonus in the first place.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
I have to explain this to people.
I'm like, you realize They said 100% unemployment guarantee plus $600, right?
That means no matter how much someone pays another person, they're gonna make more in unemployment.
lydia smith
Right.
That's like designed to fail.
Right.
Like, what were they thinking?
tim pool
Even $200.
unidentified
Yeah, there's no competition.
lydia smith
$10 more, why would you work?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
Make better money.
unidentified
Hold on.
lydia smith
$100 more, yeah.
tim pool
No, no, no.
No bonus at all.
Why would you work?
unidentified
Yeah, what's the point?
tim pool
If someone came to you and they were like, you can work 40 hours a week for $600, Or you can stay at home and we'll give you full unemployment benefits for the same salary.
lydia smith
Play video games.
tim pool
They're going to be like, I'll take it.
I'll take the money for nothing.
We saw the stories, man.
I don't know the solutions.
I'll tell you this.
If we're going to give people a bonus, then so be it.
Let's do it.
But look, I think it's fair to point out the Republicans wanted an FBI building and they wanted like tanks or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
There was a bunch of war stuff.
I tweeted about it.
I was like, Are the Republicans preparing for a war?
lydia smith
It seems like they might be preparing for something.
tim pool
A lot of people were like, this is so weird, why would they do this?
It's a waste of money.
And then other people were like, I watched Tim's content, so I think he's talking about China.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think he might be talking about this thing.
tim pool
I've seen Republicans say the FBI building makes sense.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm getting this wrong.
Am I confusing this with the other bill?
I think it was their COVID relief bill.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, so this was their thing that they were kind of saying.
tim pool
I don't like either party, I'll tell you what.
You know, but the voter signature... I'll tell you what.
Look, there's a reason for an FBI building.
There's a reason for tanks or whatever.
Sure, fine, whatever.
To me, it's silly and it's worthy of criticism 100%.
But removing voter signature verification is like saying, we'll give you food if you let us cheat the election.
lydia smith
83 days till the election, dude.
No time for this nonsense.
tim pool
So dumb.
Maximum Casey says, Adam or no Adam, I will continue to love and support the show.
I am saddened by this turn of events, but you will not get any beef from me.
Side note, I was using Nord VPN and YouTube changed my currency to GBP.
I wasn't even connected to the UK.
That's interesting.
lydia smith
That's weird.
VPN or something.
tim pool
Nick Ellie says, one of the reasons Adam is so admirable, because he did what everyone wants and needs to do, speak the truth and take responsibility for the consequences.
Good luck to him and the rest of you at Timcast.
And he does have his own channel, AdamCastIRL on YouTube, where he's going to be doing his show and he's still here.
Literally, we just had pizza an hour and a half ago and we were talking about Trump and stuff, you know, so by all means, you know, we'll see how things roll, you know.
Steven Rodriguez says, love what you're doing here, Tim.
Love Adam too, but still support the show.
Appreciate it, man.
lydia smith
Thanks, man.
tim pool
Let's see what we got in the Super Chats.
Bradley LeDoux says, But you know what, man?
There is media that's not ignoring it.
children who have been murdered during the past few months.
It's horrible how the mainstream media has ignored them all. But you know
what man? There is media that's not ignoring it. There are conservative
outlets.
lydia smith
You know who's really good about this is Terry Crews.
unidentified
Terry Crews is awesome.
lydia smith
Even if no one else reports on this, he was tweeting out the list of, you know, say their names.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
It was just little black kids who'd been shot.
He's like, their lives matter to you?
Man, nobody's talking about them.
tim pool
Because it's all political.
Dude.
You know, it's funny when I see my... I'm losing friends, to be honest.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
It's not like we... There's not been a point where I've ever said I'm not your friend anymore.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Or it's been said to me.
But I'm telling you, when I see a friend of mine post complete fake news, support looting and destruction, I'm like, what has happened to you?
When did you become the person that championed pain and suffering?
For what?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I get it, man.
There's problems in this country.
But how can you go from saying, I understand their problems, let's try to make life better for everybody else, to cheering for looting?
I don't get it, man.
There's an image of an immigrant family hugging amid the rubble of their bodega, their corner store.
Yeah, man.
lydia smith
Did their lives not matter?
Seriously, because you just destroyed them.
Or there's the people who have a small restaurant in Chicago, windows busted out, door busted out, having to... Yeah, I remember the guy in Minnesota, the guy in Minneapolis who had his bar completely destroyed before he even had a chance to open it.
tim pool
We raised him a million dollars.
lydia smith
Yes, we did!
This is awesome.
tim pool
I really enjoy that story.
You know, I wish I could do, you know, do every GoFundMe, everything.
lydia smith
Me too.
tim pool
But when I saw that story, dude, there was a guy in Minnesota, he's a firefighter, he's a family man, he was just like, the American dream.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
tim pool
And he opened his own bar, and they destroyed it, and then when he came back the next day, they burned the building to the ground.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
So it's beyond just, and they were like stealing his safe while he was coming in.
Talk about brutal.
Well, the dude raised over a million bucks.
I don't care what he does with it.
He can buy himself a pony and go, you know, right around the countryside.
I just want him to be happy.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Because it breaks my heart to see someone work so hard, play by the rules, and then get, you know, shortchanged by these, you know, just to have everything just torn, just destroyed in front of you.
lydia smith
Yeah, for no reason.
For nothing.
tim pool
And I'll tell you what, I feel similarly to a lot of these kids who rack up student loan debt.
You got a bunch of young dumb kids and they're being told by everybody, you have to get out loans.
They go into this stupid college system and now they come back out with indentured servitude and they don't know what they don't know what to do.
And what do you think they're going to do?
They're going to vote for the commies.
lydia smith
Right.
Well, you made the point that hard work has never really paid off for them.
And that kind of hit home with me.
I was like, you know what?
You're right.
Why would you want to work hard if it's never worked?
It's never worked out for you.
What's even the point?
tim pool
So their only thing is the government will do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Like it's just get sad and Donald Trump, man.
tim pool
This guy.
When he froze federal student loan interest rates, I couldn't believe it.
lydia smith
Yeah?
tim pool
I'm like, I've literally been calling for that on this show.
Like, this is what we need to do.
lydia smith
And you know what?
This is kind of like the agreement they just came to today in the Middle East.
This is because of coronavirus, and he is actually using it for good things.
I think that's admirable.
That's amazing.
tim pool
I think Trump has really been improving.
I really do.
lydia smith
I think so, too.
He's definitely mellowed.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
lydia smith
A lot of the bones I had to pick with him about his tweeting nonsense have really gone out the window.
tim pool
I think he learned.
unidentified
He did.
tim pool
I think he figured it out, like, hey, wait a minute.
lydia smith
Yeah, you can teach an old dog new tricks, it turns out, which is great news.
tim pool
Let's see.
Aketsu says, Tim, I love your idea of having Average Joes on the podcast.
I am a site safety manager in NYC.
I travel all over the city and I could tell you some stories, bro.
P.S.
I guess now that AdamCast is your competition, you could say it's complicated.
We definitely want to do Average Joes, man.
I was having a conversation with a contractor.
It was fascinating.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
The work they do, the bills they pay.
Like when I was talking to this guy before COVID, telling me how like it's been the greatest year of his life.
His business is taking off.
He's hiring so many more people.
lydia smith
He's so happy to hear.
tim pool
Yup.
And, and, and, and the people working with him were straight up like they were going to vote for Trump because they were tired of the media.
And I'm like, this is crazy.
I was like, you're just regular dudes.
They weren't on social media.
lydia smith
New Jersey.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
State default liberal.
tim pool
I think too much of our media landscape is dominated by people like me.
And not people like you.
What do you mean?
lydia smith
Because you're pretty centrist.
tim pool
No, we're politicos.
Even everybody watching right now, we're all relatively politically active.
If you come to a show like this...
lydia smith
You know, yeah, you're paying attention.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
And a little bit or want to pay attention more.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know, so I think there are people that get shut out.
Regular people.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
The original idea for the show was to talk to regular people around the country.
Once we move, I'm going to try and book.
I say regular people, but yeah, it's going to be like a project manager for a building company.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And, you know, they'll probably be relatively politically active.
I'm not going to grab a random guy who's going to sit there and be like, I have no idea what's happening.
What am I doing here?
lydia smith
Well, I think any business owner you could talk to is paying some kind of attention.
tim pool
But even activists, too.
I'd love to get, like, you know, a politically active activist.
One of the challenges with having someone who would be, like, a far-left activist is that it would be very adversarial.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We could probably have a good conversation, but I kind of feel like everyone watching in Super Chat and us would be like, oh, that's actually incorrect.
Here's the source.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
You're wrong.
Here's, you know.
lydia smith
I'm going to set you straight, which is kind of, I mean, it's not a really good conversation.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
But I think we could absolutely find liberal personalities.
Not personalities, but like liberal individuals who could, you know, make a good argument.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I just don't think they'll want to do it because they don't want to get cancelled.
unidentified
It's too bad.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
It's too bad.
I hate cancel culture.
tim pool
Think about how many people are scared to speak up, and I have no problem saying, you know what?
I'm probably going to end up voting for Trump.
I feel backed into a corner.
He's improved a lot.
You know what I mean?
What can I say?
If he didn't, I definitely would be like, no way!
But he's not that bad.
A lot of people wouldn't want to admit that.
You know what, man?
I don't care.
This is what I mean when I say, you can cancel me, I'll go down by the river and go fishing.
It's like, I'll speak what needs to be spoken.
I'll be tactful and strategic so I don't get, you know, banned unnecessarily.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
I can maximize, you know, what we're doing.
But yeah, man, you know, I'm willing to say what I feel.
I'm willing to be honest.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see.
Malta Linus says, no Adam, no peace.
But seriously, I've enjoyed watching the two of you, and previously invisible Lydia, and will continue to watch both of your IRLs.
Cheers from the shrunken state of Oklahoma.
And Lydia always had a camera.
lydia smith
I'm glad to have a corporeal presence now.
I'm glad to have a body.
I'm glad to not be invisible anymore.
I did have a voice.
tim pool
Yeah, there was a wishing stone.
It was amazing.
I rubbed it and a djinn came out and he told me, make your wishes.
And if I make three wishes, the portal of the djinn world opens up.
And one of the wishes was for Lydia to get a corporeal form.
And anybody who understands that reference, you are amazing.
That was a reference to an old movie, a series of movies.
Tell me, what do you want?
Just say, I wish.
Oh, I love that.
It's Wishmaster, okay?
For those that don't know, I love that movie.
lydia smith
Yeah, that movie's crazy.
tim pool
DJG says, Great job, Lydia.
Thanks for filling in for Adam.
Tim, thanks for being a voice of reason.
We may differ in opinion, but it's great that someone out there is doing something.
Also, spin that UFO.
lydia smith
Yes, I will.
I would love to.
I've been waiting for this.
And you know what?
It makes me so happy when people message you and they're like, I may disagree with you, but I absolutely think that what you're saying is important.
I don't know if anyone can hear me now.
Oh, I don't want to knock it over.
Oh, this is my first time spinning the UFO.
tim pool
Lydia has spun the UFO.
It has been spun.
Akipat says, Newly awakened race hate is the biggest social problem we have now.
The media, aka The Cathedral, look at Michael Malice, is totally complicit in this form, in this, from decades of pushing lopsided critical race theory.
How do kids not grow up racist today?
Tragic.
Michael Malice is amazing.
You can follow him on Twitter, he's a cool dude.
And I will also mention, there was a leak of school, like, curriculum documents, and it was literally, like, the math problems.
This is amazing.
You got to hear this, okay?
Traditionally, like when I was growing up, the math problem was something like, it said you have a bushel of apples and it's being delivered to, you know, the processing plant, which can hold a capacity of, you know, 12,396 apples, but your bag carries 13 blah, blah, blah.
What percentage of apples will not be able to be processed?
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And in this curriculum, it says the police are stopping people in the city.
If 17,326 are white and, you know, 10,000 are black, what percentage of the police are, you know, what percentage of the people stopped are, you know, are African American, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, the point is, even the math questions that are trying to get you to just solve a simple math equation are framed in a intersectional way.
lydia smith
This is so counterproductive.
What does this teach people?
tim pool
It's the cathedral.
lydia smith
Okay, so explain the cathedral to me.
tim pool
It's the church.
It's like the church of intersectionality.
They tell you what is true, they tell you what to say, and they indoctrinate you.
lydia smith
Perfect, that makes perfect sense.
tim pool
Yeah, but there's no... it's like non-theistic, and there's no end other than just chaos.
lydia smith
And dude, you know what else there is not?
There is no forgiveness.
There is no coming back.
tim pool
The church has that.
lydia smith
The church has that.
The church has redemption.
Like, there is a way to...
There's a way to fix your problems or to turn to a higher power to fix your problems.
Dude, they don't have that.
tim pool
There's no confessional.
Yeah.
I grew up Catholic, briefly, and you'd go into the confession booth.
You know what was really funny when I was a kid?
I had nothing to confess.
lydia smith
Did you make stuff up?
tim pool
They told me to say whatever.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
It's the weirdest thing.
I'm like, I didn't do anything wrong.
lydia smith
I haven't done anything, yeah.
I'm a kid doing kid stuff.
tim pool
But it felt, it was weird because it was like, you know, confess your sins and I was like, I don't know.
I'm not a little kid.
lydia smith
I mean, I smacked my brother or something.
tim pool
I think I remember one where I said that my friend offered me a Sour Patch Kid and when I reached in the bag I took two instead.
Because I was like, was that wrong?
lydia smith
I don't know what that was.
tim pool
And I was told it wasn't wrong.
They said, was your friend upset?
I said, no.
And they were like, did they offer you more Sour Patch Kids?
I said, yes.
And they were like, I think they were letting you have, they were sharing with you.
I think you're okay.
And I was like, okay.
I was a little kid.
I had no idea.
lydia smith
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Oh, I read that one.
I read.
Oh, there we go.
I just jumped on me.
I was like, what's going on with this?
Super Chat does that on YouTube, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Have fun.
Have fun with us.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Kid Truck says, as a conservative, not really Republican, it's been interesting to see how large a group the right now includes.
Small government, big government, gun control, no gun control, etc.
That is crazy, man.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It is a big, big tent.
lydia smith
I like it.
tim pool
Yeah, seriously.
Liberals, pro-choice, pro-life, standing side by side, holding hands.
Dave Rubin, gay, married, Yeah, they're friends, we get along fine.
lydia smith
It's a secret that we agree on a lot of this stuff.
tim pool
That we're all Americans, that we all basically agree on the same things.
No, they're off on their own little whatever.
the left and the right the democrats the republicans they were very close and
overlapped yeah i remember now it's democrats are overhear public and secret
lydia smith
that we agree on a lot of this stuff there were all americans that we all
basically we don't know if our last name snow if they're there off on their own
unidentified
little whatever we can see them you know what man
tim pool
It really does feel like we're—the Democrats are the last vestige of a historical political party, and we're going to have the America Party and the, you know, International Party or whatever.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's gonna be like the Socialists and the Americans.
lydia smith
And it might actually divide along terms of whether we want to be involved in wars, because there are facets of each party that are super, super involved in the military-industrial complex, and they can have their own side of things, and everyone else normal and sane can be on the other side.
tim pool
I think it's the internet.
lydia smith
You think so?
tim pool
Well, I think the Internet allowed us to challenge the establishment.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
tim pool
It's been true with the Arab Spring.
lydia smith
Like the fact that we're having this conversation right now.
It's a platform that nobody's got.
tim pool
They want to ban us.
Yes!
I'm being a bit facetious when I say that.
There are certainly elements that want to, and it's a struggle.
You see what they did to Crowder with taking away his monetization for a year.
But it kind of feels like things are improving on YouTube.
So I'm a little hopeful.
lydia smith
I am.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm hopeful.
I feel like if Trump wins and the Republicans take control of everything, there's gonna be a lot of things I'm upset about.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But I also feel like there's gonna be a lot of things I'm gonna breathe a sigh of relief about.
lydia smith
The country will still be standing at the end of the day.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
So you will have things to be upset about and a country to be upset about them in.
tim pool
Right.
And then hopefully that's a reckoning for whatever counter-party, except maybe it's not the Democrats.
Yeah.
It's going to be like, the Republicans are going to absorb every rational person, the Democrats have gone insane and will collapse, and the Republicans will split into, like, the centrist Republicans versus the, you know, the grand old public party.
lydia smith
You know what I mean?
tim pool
It's going to be like the same party is going to split or something.
lydia smith
That would be good.
Maybe that's a natural cycle.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Bobcat says, Tim, would you consider talking about thorium reactors as a solution for clean power?
Also, I noticed you might have an opening for an OSINT nerd that can run a soundboard.
Where can I send my resume and demo of work?
Spintheufo at Gmail, is it?
lydia smith
Yep, that's a good place to send it.
tim pool
You can send stuff to spintheufo at Gmail.
You can also go to timcast.com slash donate, and there's a PO box if you want to send anything, because we get sent some really cool stuff.
lydia smith
Physical objects, yep.
tim pool
Physical objects through the snail mail.
My friends, it is late in the day.
If you haven't already, you can smash that like button.
lydia smith
You should.
tim pool
Press the like button.
lydia smith
I would appreciate it.
tim pool
It would be great.
Really do appreciate everybody who came in and hung out.
We do the show Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast.
And you can follow at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Parler as well.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
And you can also check out my main channel over at TimCast.net.
It is easier that way.
It's a URL.
And I put up videos there every day at 4 p.m.
This is like my flagship channel.
It's like where I do my main segments.
But I also have YouTube.com slash TimCastNews and then with the TimCast IRL show.
So, that being said, we are trying to get to the point where we're going to be booking guests.
We may have some guests very soon.
Yes.
lydia smith
I hope so.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
A couple people have reached out.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
And I think, hopefully soon.
Otherwise, we're going to keep hanging out and just doing conversations and, you know, doing our best.
But with that being said, it is time to go to bed.
So I will see you all tomorrow on this show at 8 p.m.
live.
Or again, you can check out TimCast.net.
And we'll see you all next time.
unidentified
All right.
lydia smith
Bye, guys.
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