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Aug. 7, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - MASSIVE "Pro Trump" Hack Hits Reddit, REEKS Of Chinese PsyOp After Tencent Got NUKED
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tim pool
Donald Trump announced in two executive orders he was going after tik-tok and
And this was yesterday.
Included in these executive orders were weird provisions that kind of roped in ByteDance, the parent company of TikTok, and Tencent, the parent company of WeChat.
And the executive order that Trump issued on Tencent May have just upended massive industries in this country, including major video games, Spotify, you know, the NBA, for instance.
This could be a serious nuke dropped on a bunch of companies with investments and ties to China.
Though the White House says it shouldn't affect anything other than WeChat.
Looks like it might.
But that's not necessarily the big news, because that happened yesterday.
What happened today was that just a day after Trump does this, we get this weird mass hack that hits Reddit.
About 70 or more different subreddits get hit with weird Chinese creepy pro-Trump fake Messages, and it looks like some kind of psychological operation.
We don't know who by, but I'll tell you what, what's interesting here is that a bunch of the articles don't mention at all that the pro-Trump messages are written in Chinese.
So they're trying to make it seem almost like Trump supporters are the ones who did this.
Now we're starting to see comments from people saying like, these Trump supporters won't leave us alone.
And that's why it feels like a PSYOP.
Clearly, the messages for Trump weren't written by somebody who speaks English as a first language.
But it's very interesting that it's coming just after Trump made these major moves.
So we've got some articles.
We're going to talk about the implications for what Trump's executive order is.
Right now, I guess Trump is still speaking.
So, you know, we're kind of competing with him, I guess.
Or as we're live, you know, for those are listening to it later, he's probably he's not speaking anymore.
I'm sure he's speaking to someone.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, we got some other stories, too.
So, outside of that, we're gonna go over everything that Tencent could cover.
And although you've got all these companies saying things like, don't worry, everybody.
The executive order won't cover us.
Our video games are gonna be fine.
Nope, wrong.
adam crigler
Yeah, they keep saying, like, no, no, no, Fortnite is... Oh, my camera's not on.
lydia smith
Oh, no!
adam crigler
Yeah, they keep saying... Fortnite is fine.
League of Legends won't be affected.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
We had a power outage, because we're in the midst of this massive storm ripping through South Jersey.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, just for those that are watching, the internet went out for a second, and so we had to, like, quickly switch it over, and that resulted in everything, you know, kind of getting all jammed up.
adam crigler
You know, before we get into it, can you give me my, my camera before we get into everything?
I just want to say, uh, today is a purple heart day.
So I just want to say to every single person out there that has fought for this country and has been wounded.
Thank you very much for your service.
I appreciate you.
And, uh, this day is for you.
So just want to give a little thought out there for everyone who didn't know that, that maybe think, thank someone who, you know, that was wounded for us, uh, defending our country and fighting for us.
So thank you.
tim pool
Rad, right on.
Yeah, so we'll go through all that stuff, but we also have this, this is, this is, man.
So Antifa's getting arrested.
I guess you can call them Black Lives Matter, whatever.
And the Daily Beast writes an article that totally lies about what's going on.
So this woman apparently was rioting, vandalizing stuff, buying supplies for rioters, so she's getting arrested and charged.
The Daily Beast, lefty publication, just claims she's being arrested for buying paint.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
just ignoring every all the context oh yeah this is a crazy thing about what's going on with
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
this is that they're starting to realize these the democrats the
establishment that backing antifa was a fool's move and people don't like it all of a
sudden the new york times is like actually antifa is bad
oh now they're saying it It's crazy how late they are to the party.
adam crigler
Too late.
tim pool
This is what makes me feel confident that we've consistently been on the right side of these issues.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Is that they're just late to the party.
You know, now what Joe Biden started getting... You remember when Joe Biden put out that anti-China ad and claimed Trump was soft on China?
Yeah, it was a couple months ago.
And I was like, you have to be insane to think anyone will believe Joe Biden's going to be tougher on China than Trump when Joe Biden like flew there with his kid to get some equity deal.
Not only that, but Sleepy Creepy Joe is not going to be able to stand up to anybody.
adam crigler
Yeah, Trump's been talking about how China's been screwing us over for over a decade now.
You know, that was like one of his main points he was campaigning on.
It still talks about it.
tim pool
It shows that the American people agree with Trump on China.
Poll after poll shows it.
And even if the polls are wrong, then they must really trust Trump on issues of China.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
So if Trump's winning these polls and they can't even poll people properly... Build back better!
adam crigler
No, but come on.
tim pool
But look at also Joe Biden's Buy America thing, right?
They're desperately trying to latch on to it.
adam crigler
It's it's he wants to be Trump.
It's almost like Trump base.
Well, it's too late.
The Trump base is the Trump base.
tim pool
No, it's not that the Trump's base is never going anyway.
Anywhere.
Trump's base is Trump's base.
It's the regular people who are like, wow, rioting is awful.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then the Democrats were like, there is no riot.
And then people were like, people have been messaging me this, like, it is so frustrating to see the videos and then have your local media or your politicians just tell you it's not happening.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And you're like, I'm demanding a representative to deal with this.
And they keep saying, there's nothing happening.
There's no riots.
Antifa's a myth.
You know what I said earlier?
I was like, you know what?
Jerry Nadler's right.
Jerry Nadler, Democrat, said that Antifa was a myth.
Antifa violence in Portland was a myth.
He's correct.
adam crigler
How so?
tim pool
It's Black Lives Matter violence.
The groups out there aren't waving Antifa flags.
They're waving Black Lives Matter flags, literally flags that say Black Lives Matter.
They're carrying shields that say Black Lives Matter.
They're spray-painting Black Lives Matter on their vehicles, and they're putting up flyers for Black Lives Matter.
adam crigler
But it's Antifa with the skin of Black Lives Matter.
tim pool
I disagree.
They're Black Lives Matter activists, or extremists, whatever you want to call them, rioters, and they're using a black bloc tactic.
So back in the Occupy Wall Street era, these people weren't called Antifa.
Antifa was specifically because a group emerged that was flying those flags.
Some people still do.
adam crigler
Yeah, the black blocs.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
We just called it the black bloc anarchists or far leftists back during Occupy because they were just extremists who would wear all black.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
Then we had this period where for a couple of years, it literally was Antifa.
They would wear the black and red.
They'd fly the flag.
Now they're just flying Black Lives Matter.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it might.
I mean, it is a lot of the same people, a lot of the same organizations, you know, organizing.
But I'll tell you what, man, if they're going to go around waving these flags and the Democrats are going to deny their existence and refuse to condemn them, And if the Black Lives Matter Greater Organization won't call them out for the mafioso tactics in Louisville where they're shaking down local businesses for money, well, then they get to, you know, there you go.
It's your organization with your name, and if you won't denounce it and say it's not part of you, then I'll assume it is.
They're going to residencies and doing this stuff.
So the first thing we gotta talk about for sure, though, is this great hack.
But before we get into all that, there's something more important you gotta do.
adam crigler
It's very important.
This is very important.
You must smash the like button.
You see that little like button?
tim pool
Wait, hold on.
I gotta say something, too.
adam crigler
It's below the video.
tim pool
You gotta smash it!
We're being platform assist.
adam crigler
Are we?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
What do you mean?
tim pool
What are the good old people on mobile podcasts listening to this supposed to do?
adam crigler
Is there a like button that they can smash?
tim pool
Smash that five-star review button!
lydia smith
Yeah, they can review us.
unidentified
Is that a thing?
tim pool
Smash those keys to leave a good review on the podcast platform.
adam crigler
We don't have the same vibe.
tim pool
I know.
Yeah, I know.
adam crigler
Ah, whatever.
But listen, also, an update.
AlphaZeroOmega on Twitter hit me up yesterday.
He was like, you know what?
It feels like 30,000 likes is just too easy.
I want to be challenged.
I want to feel like we earned the Magabini.
So, because of him, you can blame this person, Alpha0Omega has raised the bar to 40,000 likes.
That's it.
That's the new minimum we need.
That's tough.
I know, but hey, he asked for it.
tim pool
We have hit that many likes.
adam crigler
We have, that's true.
So I'm just letting you all know, it's no longer 30,000 likes, it's 40,000 likes.
lydia smith
We can do it.
adam crigler
So if you want to get help, You gotta share the video and get more people in here liking it.
unidentified
Look at this guy.
He's got a racket going.
adam crigler
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
But don't forget to subscribe as well and hit the notification bell because YouTube is a difficult beast.
Might not actually recommend the content to you, but we're live Monday through Friday at 8pm.
But how about we read this news?
The great Reddit hack.
This story we got from Wired, and I looked at a bunch of these news stories.
Hackers flood Reddit with pro-Trump takeovers.
By apparently compromising moderator accounts, the attackers were able to post MAGA materials all over at least 70 popular subreddits.
The only problem is they're clearly not pro-Trump.
They're like caricatures of Trump mocking his ideas, and it's written in Chinese.
Partly.
Hmm.
adam crigler
That's shady.
tim pool
So here's the interesting thing, though.
So these hacks have happened.
We'll get into it.
But it reeks of a sigh of... Actually, let me read this so you can get some context first.
And then I want to break this down because this could be... This actually could be pro-Trump people trying to frame China, trying to frame them.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
It could be a weird... Good point.
tim pool
You know, who knows?
Well, here's what Wired says.
In what appears to be a massive coordinated strike against Reddit, hackers took over dozens of pages on Friday afternoon, using their access to plaster pro Donald Trump imagery across subreddits with huge followings.
Coming just over three weeks after hackers used access to high-profile Twitter accounts to tweet a bitcoins- Wired, what are you talking about?
The wave of Reddit compromises at a similar eye-popping reach.
Reddit communities with well over a million members, including r slash space, food, NFL,
were defaced with MAGA campaign banners and other pro-Trump signage.
Now the interesting thing is, you know what man, I just can't, it's so difficult.
I need to start a news organization.
adam crigler
Yes you do.
tim pool
So we can actually fix these stories.
First of all, the high profile Bitcoin scam, like come on man,
You gotta be more... It was way worse than that, just to make it seem like some Bitcoin scam happened.
It's like, after the president and the vice president accounts were hacked, and also mentioned what seems to be pro-Trump accounts, but it's actually written in Chinese.
They even mentioned, look at this, we stand with Donald Trump, MAIGA 2020.
What does that mean?
Sometime on Friday morning, hackers began breaking into the accounts of the moderators.
They used that access not only to splash pro-Trump imagery all over the page, but in many cases posted a MAGA missive from the moderator's account with the subject, we stand with Donald Trump, MAIGA 2020.
We, on behalf of the American people, want to implore and strongly encourage you all to vote Trump in 2020 elections of the USA of America.
unidentified
And there are they seriously gonna gonna talk about what is what is this?
tim pool
Read one such message.
adam crigler
These are somebody wire doesn't have a copy editor I think because this is all just really awful, but maybe that's literally what the words were verbatim, you know No, no, no, I'm saying makes sense because if it's translated from from Chinese and they might have not are you saying the wired article itself was written in Chinese first No, this is in quotes.
So maybe this part I'm highlighting isn't Oh, read one such message.
tim pool
Period.
Or comma, but they're like not capitalizing, they're missing words.
adam crigler
I'm saying wired.
I see what you're saying.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
Posted to a college football-focused r slash cfb, the post goes on to call the novel coronavirus a hoax, loosely compares Trump to Batman, and ends with a list of 10 things Democrats did wrong, which includes nice people are hated by the Democrats as a bullet point in the case of r slash cfb.
The hackers also set the community to private, leaving only an emoji-strewn pro-Trump message on the landing page for those locked out.
An investigation is underway related to a series of vandalized communities, said a Reddit spokesperson.
It appears the source of the attacks were compromised moderator accounts.
We are still working to lock down those accounts and restore impacted communities.
They say hackers attempted to claim credit for the attacks on Twitter, saying we combined password stuffing and social engineering together to beat the teenage Bitcoin cheater.
An apparent reference to the, you know, the Twitter hack.
The Twitter ringleader, I guess, Graham Ivan Clark, they say, who was arrested last week.
Credential stuffing is when the attacker uses previously leaked passwords to break into accounts made by the same email address, taking advantage of the common human tendency to reuse passwords.
Social engineering is a catch-all for ways to trick people into giving you information this weekend.
Claims of hacking credit on Twitter should be taken with hefty boulders of salt, but some combination of password reuse and SIM swapping could certainly be at the heart of the Reddit hacks, since the takeovers occurred.
Wait, what?
Since the take- Okay, Reddit users have been scrambling to figure out what happened, and to protect their own accounts.
A post published Friday afternoon by a Reddit community moderator warns people to look for unexpected password reset emails, and encourages mods to change their passwords.
I actually got one of these.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, I did.
I didn't think anything of it.
I don't have any subreddits or anything.
So I think what happened was somebody tried using one of my emails for some reason and I got some weird notification.
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, but there's nothing, I don't know what they're going to, I don't moderate any subreddits or anything like that.
So anyway, I'm not gonna get too much into the rest of what they say because they have no idea what they're talking about, but they show this image right here.
Yeah, this is a terrible article.
It just says, like, the MAGA messaging is less disturbing than the hacker's ability to pull it off, blah blah blah.
They're not even telling you what the images are.
Look at this.
What is this?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
This is one of the things they posted.
adam crigler
What does it mean?
tim pool
I don't know.
And it's clearly... Somebody wrote something in Chinese.
adam crigler
So we have this post... Watch, it's like a bunch of swears that we just put up.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
adam crigler
I don't know what it means.
Who knows what it is?
tim pool
So, subreddit Drama tracked all of the different subreddits that got hit by this.
And the funny thing about their messages is that they believe it.
Like, look at this.
This comment says, I wonder if anyone's like, quote, I wasn't going to vote for Trump before, but now that his supporters hacked the accounts of the mods of r slash Naruto, I will.
Do they really think that's what happened?
adam crigler
Maybe.
tim pool
This really, look.
I don't know exactly what happened, but I'll tell you what.
Look at this.
This is part of the message.
I can't read any of this, for all I know.
Look at this, Goya Bean.
For all I know, this is a bunch of slurs and swears, I guess.
American lyrics in best country language.
Here are 10 things Democrats did right.
Nothing.
They suck.
It looks like it's written by someone who speaks Chinese and has second language English.
lydia smith
Or like a bot or something?
adam crigler
Or just had it translated and didn't understand how to fix, to make it, you know, correct.
tim pool
Right.
It could be, however, somebody wrote in English, translate it to Chinese and then back to English so that it seems like it was Chinese hackers.
adam crigler
4D chess.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Or maybe it was Chinese hackers.
Like, what does it matter?
Like, you know, who do they think or what is it?
What is the point of it?
What are they getting out of this?
tim pool
Well, already a lot of people think Trump supporters did this.
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
Why do they think Trump supporters do?
adam crigler
No, no, no.
Why would Trump supporters dig up weird Chinese versions of what they would do?
tim pool
Wired didn't say that.
Wired just said pro-Trump messages were hacked onto all these Reddit accounts.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And now you're going to be seeing a bunch of these lefties posting saying like, these people must be stopped, they're insane, and they're not going to know anything about the context.
So we look at this and we can clearly see, like, I really don't think Trump supporters are writing Chinese.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
And it comes right after Donald Trump targeted this massive company, Tencent.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Now of course, if you hop over to the donald.win, they straight up say the top comment, Anarchist false flag alert.
Yup, this happened immediately after announcing the Tencent ban for a reason.
And they go on to say, you know, NSA or self-sabotage, whatever.
The point is, the top comment on the Donald forum, which is now separate from Reddit, the Donald.win, they're saying it's a false flag.
And I think that makes sense because you end up with people saying things like, one of the comments is, why can't Trump supporters just leave us alone?
And people believe it.
adam crigler
Yes, they do.
tim pool
And I'm willing to bet if you go on Reddit now, it's not even about whether they believe it.
You know there's gonna be these far lefties who use this, they weaponize this.
And they're gonna say, did you see what those Trump supporters did the other day?
They like took over and vandalized a whole bunch of forums for sports and games.
One of the comments was talking just about this, specifically about the motive for Trump supporters.
And they said, why would Trump supporters hack all these subreddits?
And the response is, What they said was that you need to understand that Trump supporters don't care about winning.
They care about mocking you for having no power.
They want to show you they're more powerful than you and they want to laugh while they do it.
That's just a silly, ridiculous way to look at what's going on when you consider all of the Chinese messages and all these things popping up.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean it makes more sense to me that I mean this this whole Tencent thing could could ruin Spotify could
ruin League of Legends Fortnite is in the crosshairs like we don't know the
implications of how it's gonna change these online games that I mean
You really think about who's playing it ten years old to like 30 year olds like that
There's a huge base in these games. So if suddenly like they can't play it anymore. They get cut off from from that
game That's that's insane. So so they might like I don't know
who it is, but I have there's no doubt in my mind It's not Trump supporters, right?
I think that or that it's Trump supporters.
I doubt it completely saying it's not Trump It's not Trump supporters.
tim pool
There's no way I It reeks of a Chinese psyop true It could it could theoretically be like I don't know people in Hong Kong who like Trump, right?
It could be some dumb kids who don't care either way.
adam crigler
We really don't doubt that.
tim pool
I doubt that there's some dumb kids think it's funny.
adam crigler
I I doubt that it's just some dumb kids.
Man, it's so weird though.
I mean, right after he's banning WeChat and Tencent, he's coming down on China.
You know, it's like all these little things like the executive order about Hong Kong,
you know, leading up to now.
It's like, you put those two together now, you know, where he can seize assets.
If you're connected to any one of these things, now add this into the play.
tim pool
He could seize the assets of all these companies.
adam crigler
Exactly.
It's crazy.
Like, you think about it, if he connects it, then they could, like the US government
can seize the assets of anyone aiding the Chinese government
tim pool
in reference to Hong Kong.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
But because they're all doing it.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So Trump's Trump issued an executive order that was basically like, if you mess with Hong Kong, we can like freeze your assets.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The only thing is it was so vague.
You can basically be like, this guy is a baker who provided a cake to the wedding of this guy who's in the mailroom of the Chinese Communist Party.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Who works, you know, in the party, therefore, and that's, that's it.
He can sanction the baker.
adam crigler
And who else is he going after?
Big Pharma.
He just gave a big FU to Big Pharma.
tim pool
Now he's hiding.
adam crigler
Yeah, now he's hiding.
He literally just said yesterday, I have very rich enemies who don't like what I'm doing.
With this, going after China and going after Big Pharma has been milking Americans.
Like, he's basically saying if a drug is only $3 over in Mexico and they're charging $400 in America, it's now illegal to do that.
You have to charge the same as what it is in Mexico.
So Big Pharma's taking a huge cut.
Anyone that's got ties to China's taking a big hit.
tim pool
This is the craziest thing about the medicine because I was arguing with some people about universal health care earlier, trying to point out that universal health care needs to have a limit somewhere.
We're like, what's the level of care you can provide?
And then what level of care is covered by private insurance?
But of course, you know, Bernie and them were like, you know, they want to abolish private insurance altogether.
That would make it impossible for certain treatments to get to certain people, so it's kind of a weird idea.
But like, anyway, I don't want to get into too much of that, but I was like, you know, the president just said we should have lower prices, we shouldn't, you know, we shouldn't have, you know, in Canada it's 50 cents and here it's, you know, $50.
Or more.
But I can't get any of these lefties to actually admit that Trump is offering something better than Joe Biden is, in these areas.
adam crigler
Yeah, and if you think about it, it's like, we're basing the price of universal healthcare on the current system, right?
So like, if these drugs cost three grand per person, where in Canada it's 50 bucks, You know, the system that we're calculating it is for the $3,000 to go to these middlemen that are getting money off that system.
So if you change the whole math to make it so it's the new price, it becomes significantly easier.
Your argument is still true, though.
I agree with there's always going to be some, you know, diseases that are way too much money, millions of dollars, because there's only, you know, 100 people a year, 100 patients that could be cured by it, if that.
tim pool
So you might need a specialist who gets paid a ridiculous, you know, sum, which requires decades of training.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then you might need, like, you know, the bark of the, the, uh, gorbo tree from the deep within the Amazon forest, which sits atop the mountain of valerian whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah, this isn't like 2050 where we got gorbo rooms.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
You know, where you can just go in and grab a little bit of gorbo and you're, you're saved.
tim pool
So there's research, there's labor, and there's things involved.
And so, you know, you look at Joe Biden and he's a disaster.
You look at Donald Trump and he's doing things and he's talking about things that are better for a lot of these progressives.
adam crigler
For Americans.
tim pool
Yeah.
But there's a lot of people who just live off tribalism.
Their whole shtick is, you know, I'm on this team, therefore you're bad.
And there's like three teams, basically.
You know, there's the far left who hates everybody else.
There are the Democrats who hate Trump, but will use the far left when they can.
And then there's like the bigger tent of, y'all are crazy.
You know?
So I think like the bigger tent has liberals, moderates, conservatives, libertarians, all saying, yo, you guys are losing your minds.
adam crigler
You guys are nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Democrats are mad with power and the far left is trying to, they're both using each other.
I think the far left is better off with Trump because it clears the, it clears out the establishment.
We talked about this yesterday.
But take a look at this story.
adam crigler
Yeah, but they won't ever see it that way.
Because they've got it in their brain.
tim pool
NPCs.
adam crigler
And that TDS is way too strong for that.
tim pool
They're non-player characters.
They say things that make no sense.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
I was trying to talk to somebody and they just started insulting me.
And I'm like, bro, I'm trying to agree with you on universal basic health care.
Why are you insulting me?
And then they're just like, oh, I don't know.
And I'm like, yeah, it's a good... What?
Like they made a post about universal health care.
I was like, here's a way I think we can do it.
And they were like, Oh my, you know, you're so dumb, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, you know what, man, they don't actually want to have a conversation.
adam crigler
Step down from your emotions.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're just angry.
And so I think they, they attach these tribal identifiers.
Like I believe in these things, not because they truly understand it, but because it's their team colors.
Like I'm for these things.
I have no idea how any of this works.
So therefore I'll insult anybody who questions it.
Even if you're like in agreement, like, I wonder what can we do in this regard?
They're like, F you, you're dumb.
Okay.
Check this out, check this out though.
So Trump's WeChat ban could touch everything from Spotify to League of Legends.
WeChat's ban may be a bigger deal than TikTok's.
Maybe.
No, it will be.
And I think what we're seeing in the language, a lot of people are saying Trump maybe made a mistake with the executive order because it bans transactions with Tencent.
Check this out.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, immediately.
tim pool
They bring all this stuff up, we get the concept, but look at this.
Here's a non-exhaustive list of the companies and properties that Tencent owns or has investments in.
Riot Games, League of Legends.
They've got 40% stake in Epic Games.
80% of Supercell, Clash of Clans.
Let's see, they publishes the mobile version of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds in China.
And they own 11% of Bluehole.
Single-digit stakes in studios like Blizzard, Ubisoft, and Platinum Games.
There's another Tencent messaging app called QQ with several hundred million users that predates WeChat.
Their production company and distributor, Tencent Pictures, is involved in major Hollywood productions like Wonder Woman, Venom, Terminator, Dark Fate, and Top Gun Maverick.
It also acts as a major film distributor within China and owns minority stakes in a range of smaller production companies.
They struck a $1.5 billion five-year deal with the NBA to stream its games in China.
Snap, owner of Snapchat, sold 12% to Tencent in 2017.
They own 14% of Kakao, which is a gaming platform, I guess, in South Korea.
They bought a 10% stake in Universal Music Group.
They have a 9% stake in Spotify, with the two partnering on Tencent Music in China.
Let me read you the Executive Order, Provision 1 says.
They say in this Verge article, the Order's language is broad, invoking the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to prohibit, quote, any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person or with respect to any property subject to the jurisdiction of the United States with Tencent Holdings Ltd.
or any subsidiary of that entity As identified by the Secretary of Commerce.
They mentioned, they bolded it themselves.
We don't know how strict the Department of Commerce will be about enforcing that rule until the enforcement starts.
Let me just say, it prohibits any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person or with respect to any property subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.
with Tencent Holdings.
That includes Reddit.
adam crigler
Yeah, so doesn't that mean you can't, you know, have in-app purchases anymore for League of Legends, Fortnite, all these, you know, what else?
tim pool
I mean, it's beyond that.
adam crigler
It's Spotify.
tim pool
It's gonna give all, it's gonna ban all of these companies.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Well, I mean, what does that mean for the NBA deal, too?
1.5 billion dollar deal with China?
Well, no wonder they are in love with China.
tim pool
First and foremost, the White House clarified saying, no, no, no, no, no, it's just in relation to WeChat.
So what does that mean?
What does that mean?
So if Reddit makes a transaction some way related to WeChat, They can't do that now?
How could something be related to WeChat?
Does Reddit post the WeChat symbol on links?
You know a lot of websites, like an article will have the WeChat symbol?
Does every single news website now have to remove the WeChat symbol?
I don't know how many actually use it, but you post a link or something.
They're going to cut it off.
And I think this is intentionally vague.
A lot of people are saying Trump made a mistake.
It's overly broad on accident.
No way, dude.
adam crigler
No, he doesn't make mistakes.
tim pool
Well, it's not just that.
It's the federal government.
They're going to tell you, don't worry, don't worry.
We're only going after WeChat.
Take it all.
And so they're going to go after Tencent.
And I think the reason why they're trying to say, with how this restricts Tencent, would be like, if I own two different companies, And one of the companies needs to pay me, but I have to pay a different company, I can have that company just pay the other company, you know what I mean?
Like, if Bob owes... If Adam owes me 10 bucks and I owe Lydia 10 bucks, I say, oh, just give the 10 bucks to Lydia.
So it doesn't even go to me, right?
You could theoretically do that with WeChat.
So they make this overly broad executive order, So that if Tencent tries saying we need to get money to WeChat, how do we do it?
I know we'll have Reddit pay for the IT services at a warehouse that has some WeChat, but no one's paying WeChat at all, but they'll still benefit from it.
adam crigler
Or they'll use that NBA money to pay for services that host the sites instead of WeChat doing it, but then it's just coming from that NBA cash.
tim pool
Exactly.
So, I own several companies.
Theoretically, let's say I bought a warehouse.
I could be like, here, I'll allocate this spot to this company.
No one's exchanging any money, but that's how you could theoretically get that value to that company.
So it seems like, yes, this absolutely will be having a massive impact beyond what anybody thought was going to happen.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And you know what the best part is?
Here we go.
adam crigler
Here we go.
tim pool
Photo surfaces showing TikTok executives posing with communist flag.
Oh my goodness.
So this is the other company that Trump banned, ByteDance.
So ByteDance isn't as big of a deal.
It is because TikTok was so big.
But I mean, you think about Tencent, man.
If they're not actually going after Tencent and they're only going after WeChat, I just gotta say this, first of all, take a look at this, come on.
The TikTok people posing with the communist flag?
Okay, okay, it's a little over the top.
But take a look at all these companies.
And I gotta wonder, If you've got people playing League of Legends, I mean, all of their private data is in League of Legends, too.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Like, China still has access to all that information.
Maybe not the same as a phone, but they're on your computer.
What if League of Legends, which they own, they have 100% of Riot Games?
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
What if you open up League of Legends and it's running in the background, stealing your stuff?
You wouldn't know.
You would not know.
Listen, man, people don't get it.
adam crigler
Currently there's over 5 million registered players in League of Legends.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
That's a lot of people.
tim pool
So why isn't Trump banning them?
Why isn't he saying no to all of it and shutting it all down?
Maybe he is.
Maybe people don't realize it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I'll tell you what, man.
You got a mobile device, and you got TikTok or WeChat, and they can steal your information without you knowing it.
They really can.
You would never know it.
And we're talking about how dangerous that is.
I think it's worse that they're going to be on your desktop or laptop computer if you're playing video games.
I'll tell you what, man.
People don't realize how easy it is to create software, custom order.
So, you know, having friends in the hacker community, there are people you could pay.
And you shouldn't, because this is illegal.
Or actually, I'll put it this way.
There are penetration testers, that's what it's called, pen testing.
And you can hire them, if you're a company, and you say, I want to make sure we have the best security possible.
So, we've bolstered our cybersecurity, then they hire someone to write a custom program to bypass that and steal your information undetected.
And they can do it custom order.
adam crigler
You know, there was a new game, I believe it's by Epic, I don't know exactly, but while I was looking through this, one of these companies, Valerant, have you heard of that?
tim pool
I think so.
adam crigler
So when that first came out they had this anti-hacking software that for you to even run the game you had to have it installed and when you booted your computer up it turned on so you couldn't even get around it.
It was like as you booted your computer up you had to like reset your computer so it can boot on with this anti-hacking software just to play it because it's one of their first-person shooter games so it was under the guise of anti-hacking so you can't hack the software.
But we're finding out that a lot of these Chinese systems are actually spying on us.
So that scares me, you know?
I doubt it's just anti-hacking now.
tim pool
You know what my favorite conspiracy theory is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
That your toaster is spying on you.
I'm not kidding.
There was a big scare that our hard appliances that are made in China, like toasters, will have Bluetooth or Wi-Fi chips programmed to take in data And then what they would do is they would brute force a local internet router and send the data back to China.
So I don't know if that stuff's true because I talked to some security experts who said it was paranoia in the US government and the military.
But apparently they said there was some rule where it's like certain government entities couldn't buy products made in China.
I think it still may be the case.
lydia smith
Hey, so didn't the USSR literally get a big old seal into the Oval Office with a listening device behind it at one point?
tim pool
I have no idea, did that happen?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's my understanding.
I don't look it up, but they've been listening that way for a long time.
adam crigler
So I just checked.
Tencent owns 100% of Riot Games.
Riot Games owns Valerian, the video game.
So that anti-hacking is 100% owned by Tencent, which is 100% Chinese, which we now know they were using TikTok to get our information.
So I would not play that game if I were you.
Get that off your system.
It might be too late.
tim pool
There was, back in the day, there was this really funny thing you could download called, like, Sheep.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And what it would do is, on your desktop, a little sheep would walk around, and you could, like, drag it and throw it, and it was just a fun little background graphic.
adam crigler
That's dope.
tim pool
So, you'd pick it up, and it would, like, climb on folders.
It would be, like, walking on your windows, and people loved it.
It turned out it was a virus.
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
It was a trick.
Everybody wanted it, so everybody installed it, and it gave backdoor access to some hackers.
That's the story as I remember it.
When it came to these toasters that were spying on us, I was told by a security expert the reality was the U.S.
government wanted an excuse to spend money on American-made products and bolster American companies over China.
So they said, your toaster is spying on you.
Your toaster, it's gonna, you know, download your internet, you know, secret information.
And so then they took this grant money and said, OK, we got to go in and get rid of all of the Chinese toasters and microwaves and refrigerators and buy American.
And that was the real reason for it.
I'll tell you what, man, I think I wouldn't be surprised.
It's not hard to do.
You know, these these chips, like Wi-Fi chips, people don't realize they're tiny.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You can get them real small.
I mean, look at a cell phone.
You can put a tiny little antenna in there, and I'm telling you, man, it's really easy.
There are programs that can, it's called Brute Force, a Brute Force attack, which is, basically what it does is it sends every possible combination of passwords to the machine until it finds it.
If you get a really good password, it could take forever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I'll tell you what, man.
I've seen some crazy stuff back in my day in Spain during these big protests.
This was back in like 2012.
Someone reverse engineered the algorithm of a local telecom.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So what happens is when people bought the routers, the router would have a name.
It would say, you know, like telecom 97, you know, 1A2.
And then they would, they reverse engineered it so that if the, because the password was based on the name.
So they figured out the algorithm and then you could type in the name of the router and it would generate the password for you.
So then what they did was someone made an app that when you were walking down, when you were walking anywhere, your phone would constantly jump to any open router or any router period because it would just instantly reverse engineer the password.
And so they were using that for live streaming when the cell infrastructure went down.
Think about how easy it is for some ragtag, you know, lefties to reverse engineer a company's, you know, router.
You better believe China had access a long time ago.
adam crigler
Oh, definitely.
tim pool
We're talking about a massive power, a powerful, you know, country with military technology, and they're gonna be... I mean, I'll tell you what, man.
I'd be willing to bet.
China already knows, has access to everything.
I would absolutely bet, you know, they have access to every single one of our systems, all our passwords.
People don't realize it is not hard.
You know what people do?
The easiest thing?
They'll take a USB stick with a virus on it, and they'll just chuck it at a bank door.
Bounce on the ground, hit the ground, and they walk away.
And you know what happens?
adam crigler
They plug it in to see what's on.
tim pool
Somebody will walk up and go, oh, what's this?
They'll pick it up and they'll put it in their computer.
Boom.
Infect the whole network.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And there's nothing you can do about that because people just don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So you end up with making it very easy for, I mean, theoretically, take us out.
We have, you know, USB, uh, memory drives and, and flash drives made in China.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
They could easily hide simple software that you're buying it.
You pop up in the package and you're like, it's a clean buy.
I bought it from the store.
adam crigler
And boom, you put it in and everything is made in China.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Apple, like Microsoft, like all these top tech companies, everything's made in China.
So what's stopping them from adding a little bit of, you know, a little chip here and there just so they can maybe one day just flick the switch and be like, all right, now we can see every single thing on every single one of these devices.
tim pool
That message from Trump the other day, that ominous statement.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And now where is he?
Bedminster?
lydia smith
Yeah, Bedminster, New Jersey, I think.
adam crigler
And what is that?
It's his bunker?
lydia smith
He's got a golf course.
adam crigler
His getaway spot?
unidentified
Yeah, he's got like a little... Oh, it's a golf course.
lydia smith
Sure, under the golf course.
tim pool
He's been secretly building a bunker over the past several years.
adam crigler
I'm sure.
No, I'm sure it's been there for decades.
Come on.
Come on.
No, I don't know.
tim pool
What's the official reason he's there for a vacation or something?
lydia smith
Yeah, he's just there for the weekend, I think.
adam crigler
No way.
unidentified
Just for the weekend.
lydia smith
That's what they said.
adam crigler
Why would he have told the public yesterday?
You're not going to see him.
Of course, today he has a press conference.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
adam crigler
We weren't able to finish watching it because we had to go live today, but now I want to go watch it when I'm done.
A lot of people have hit me up and been like, oh, he totally burned the media.
And it's like, ooh.
tim pool
He always does though.
adam crigler
He always does.
I missed it.
tim pool
So he's at this thing in Ohio, talking about Whirlpool and stuff, and then he says, I got a lot of enemies.
Rich people don't like what I'm doing, so you might not see me for a while.
He's like, these rich people, they're really mad.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people who are mad.
The Democrats.
And I'll tell you what, if you got these anti-fafar lefties saying that they'll do whatever, by any means necessary, they say.
I ask people I know, and they tell me NT was not that bad.
I'm like, what do you think by any means necessary means?
adam crigler
And plus, they were holding up this sign that says, we don't want to reform anything.
The only way to change it is to burn everything down.
And it's a big flag.
They're carrying that around.
tim pool
They're walking around with signs that say, revolution, nothing less.
I'm like, they're telling you what they want to do, who they are, what they believe in.
They're violent.
Now, of course, the media is starting to realize, you know, hey, the American people don't like riots.
adam crigler
This is why you already lost them.
They already don't trust you.
They already are pissed at these rioters, these peaceful protesters, as you yourself, media, has declared them.
tim pool
I think this is why I think what's really happening is the Democrats are absolutely inept.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Because if it really was this like nefarious plot where they were like, now we're going to cheat, then they wouldn't be playing catch up with Trump.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So I think they genuinely were like, oh, we should have mail-in ballots.
Because then we'll get big voter turnout.
And then in California, they didn't.
Like, older voters turned out more.
Younger voters didn't.
And now mail-in ballots are all broken.
So now they're like, ugh.
adam crigler
Yeah, like New York took six weeks.
And 84,000 people disqualified.
tim pool
Yeah, it's totally broken.
Crazy.
So, now you're ending up with this.
For the past several months, the riots have gotten worse.
People obviously don't like them.
Trump was the only one doing anything about it, and still Trump is the only one doing anything about it.
The cops are certainly arresting people, the courts are just letting them go.
And now we have, quite honestly, I think this is one of the funniest stories.
I love this, this is great.
This is from the Daily Beast.
I'm not scared.
She faces life in prison after allegedly buying red protest paint.
unidentified
Oh, is that all?
adam crigler
Protest paint?
She bought protest paint.
Look at this.
tim pool
She writes, I realized that in the eyes of the state I had become an enemy for exercising what is supposed to be a protected right.
Now, I have some questions before we even read this.
We're going to tear this article to shreds, mind you.
Why does she have bruises all up her arm if all she did was buy paint?
Did she slip and fall and the paint hit her arm?
She must have slipped and fallen down the stairs and repeatedly bumped her arm.
adam crigler
She was peacefully protesting, Tim.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
She only bought red paint.
adam crigler
That's all it says.
Yeah, that's right.
That's all it says.
tim pool
So she's at, you know, Home Depot.
She says, one red paint, please.
They hand it to her, and then she goes, whoops, slips, falls down, and the paint can repeatedly strikes her arm as it bounces, and now she's injured.
And then they came in and arrested her!
lydia smith
Do I feel bad for her?
adam crigler
How dare they?
tim pool
How dare they?
Yes, look at this.
Madalina McNeil is accused of buying red paint before a protest.
Under aggressive new criminal charges, it could mean she spends the rest of her life in prison.
McNeil, 28, was among four people charged Tuesday for their alleged actions at a July Salt Lake City, Utah protest over a district attorney's decision that the fatal police shooting of a young man was justified.
Protesters allegedly splashed red paint on the DA's office, broke windows, and hung signs calling for justice for the slain man.
But instead of merely charging the protesters with vandalism or even rioting, that same DA used a charging enhancement to claim they operated as a gang.
Under these new charges, the demonstrators face up to life in prison.
It's the latest in a pattern of harsh measures that ratchet up potential penalties by treating protesters like a criminal conspiracy.
You know what?
adam crigler
Protesters.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's a gang.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
adam crigler
That's the way to do it.
They are a gang.
They're dressing the same.
They're wearing riot gear.
They're going out.
They're literally waving the same flags.
tim pool
How much do you want to bet?
How much do you want to bet when they charge the Proud Boys with gang violence?
This, this writer had nothing but negative things to say about the Proud Boys and nothing but positive things to say about their finally being arrested.
adam crigler
I would bet with you there.
tim pool
In New York City, Antifa showed up to an event where Gavin McInnes was speaking, and the Proud Boys were there.
When the Proud Boys left, they had Antifa littered all over about this area.
So finally, a scuffle breaks out.
The police wanted to charge both groups, but Antifa, I gotta admit, they're much smarter when it comes to law enforcement, refuse to cooperate.
They got stomped out, you know?
But they were both basically trying to fight.
The Antifa guys were taunting them and heckling them, the Proud Boys were up to them, the guy throws a bottle, a fight breaks out, Antifa got stomped brutally, the cops came, the Proud Boys cooperated, and now they're going to prison.
I think they're in prison.
And Antifa refused to cooperate and fled.
The police were like, we would have charged them both with gang violence, but they fled.
So now only the Proud Boys get in trouble.
I guarantee you, they didn't care.
The Daily Beast writers and all, they didn't care.
They were probably like, good, charge them, they're a criminal gang.
Okay, when you post messages with a name, like they're doing in Portland over and over again, they have a branded name in Portland, and I'm not talking about Rose City, but you know, Rose City is the typical Antifa group that everyone talks about.
There's another group that organizes on Twitter and says, everyone show up here and wear this.
Yep.
Okay, y'all are in a gang, dude.
Definitely.
So did you hear what the mayor of Portland said the other day?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
He accused Antifa of attempted murder.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Because they blocked the exit to the police station and tried to burn it down with people inside.
adam crigler
Jeez.
tim pool
And you know what's funny?
That night they did it again.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
And little old ladies came out.
adam crigler
Amazing.
tim pool
You saw the little old ladies?
adam crigler
Yeah, they're my new heroes.
tim pool
How insane, man.
Little old ladies came out to defend the police station.
adam crigler
Put the fire out.
tim pool
And they splashed her in the face with paint.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
She's got paint in her eyes.
Dude.
adam crigler
And she wouldn't leave.
She was just standing there like a boss.
unidentified
But then they went... Props to you two old ladies.
adam crigler
Props.
tim pool
Then they went to a residential neighborhood, and one of the locals came out with a weapon.
The reason why they call themselves Antifa and Black Lives Matter, as most of you probably realize, is so that they can play this stupid game where you're like, hey, I would appreciate it if you stopped throwing paint in the faces of little old ladies.
They'd say, what, are you a fascist?
adam crigler
Are you saying that they don't matter?
How dare you?
tim pool
You're saying Black Lives don't matter?
Are you a fascist?
Because we're anti-fascists.
So I announced on Twitter I'm starting an organization called the Weak and Vulnerable Elderly Grandmothers.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That way when a group of weak and vulnerable elderly grandmothers are playing a game of, you know, tackle football down at the local park, Antifa shows up with some complaints, after the fight breaks out it'll be, Antifa attacks weak and vulnerable elderly grandmothers.
And then when they say, nuh-uh, they're a bunch of, you know, ruffians playing football, I'll be like, You hate weak and vulnerable elderly grandmothers.
adam crigler
Well, they identify as as the weak and vulnerable elderly grandmothers.
tim pool
Yep.
We all identify.
And then we'll be flexing.
We'll get some bodybuilders.
But I'm a weak grandmother.
Oh, don't you oppose me.
And the media, like morons, will just churn it out.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
The weak and vulnerable elderly grandmothers were viciously attacked by Antifa.
adam crigler
They're like, oh, this is getting good clicks.
This is getting good clicks.
tim pool
So I'll tell you what the issue with this article is.
The headline.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
She she faces life in prison after allegedly buying protest paint.
No, no, no, no, no.
The headline should be, she faces life in prison after engaging in gang violence and purchasing weapons and materials and vandalizing a DA's office.
That's your title.
But you know what they do with this?
People are going to share the title and they're not going to read the article.
When the article pops up on Twitter, people are going to be like, oh no, what's happening?
And that's it.
adam crigler
Fascists.
tim pool
Well, how about we go to CBS.
And even this is funny, Utah protesters who splashed red paint and broke windows could face up to life in prison because of gang enhancement.
I'm sorry man, I'm not gonna be crying anytime soon.
Look, I always value freedom over security, I'll tell you what.
But these people have been given a free pass to go around and smash everything up, and now they're getting comeuppance.
They have been riots going on endlessly.
Mostly in Portland, for sure, but there have been riots in other areas.
Let's read CBS's take on this.
And they even straight up say, look at this, Black Lives Matter?
They're not calling it Antifa.
Of course, they accidentally misspelled rioter right here.
Black Lives Matter rioters in Salt Lake City have been accused of splashing paint on a road and smashing the windows of the district attorney's building at a July protest.
Riot, I'm sorry.
And now the charges they face carry a maximum sentence of life in prison.
Prosecutors charged multiple... This is Utah, right?
Yeah, Salt Lake City.
They're not messing around.
Nah, this is not Seattle, man.
Prosecutors charged multiple protesters with the crimes on Wednesday, the Associated Press reported.
The charges have more severe consequences because Salt Lake City District Attorney Sam Gill upgraded them with a gang enhancement, which increases the penalties for offenses committed in concert with two or more person or in relation to a criminal street gang.
adam crigler
That's exactly what they are.
That's what- I mean- That's exactly what they are.
They're a street gang.
It is- Under the guise of being virtuous.
tim pool
I do think three people- It's like- It's a hard law to do, to be honest.
Like- I guess.
But it's in concert.
So there you go.
So if three people are walking down- But think about it this way.
Let's say you meet up with your two friends.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then, you know, you see people getting into a fight.
So the three of you jump in and engage in the fight.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
They charge you with a crime.
There's three of you acting together, they upgrade the crime to life in prison.
You know what I mean?
This is different, obviously.
adam crigler
I mean, if they all wear riot gear, they're all protected, wearing helmets, you know.
tim pool
They're wearing the same clothes, they have a uniform.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I'm saying, the difficult thing with gang laws are that, like, if three people, you know, go out and do something dumb, they're not in a gang.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But there's gotta be a threshold they set somewhere, because how to identify gangs, which makes it difficult.
But this is what judges are for, right?
I've talked to lawyers about this, and they're like, even when laws seem like they're over the top or not enough, judges have their discretion, that's the point.
You have the written law, and then you have the interpretation through the judges.
So, I'll tell you what, man.
If you get a name, and you're organizing on Twitter with your branded name, and you tell people to show up, and they do, and they're buying weapons and stuff, and then they're destroying things, and you're all wearing the same clothes, Kind of sounds like a gang to me.
adam crigler
Yeah, or a Mafia, huh?
Huh?
tim pool
I mean the same thing.
I know where gang comes from yeah gangsters, right?
So let's see they say with the enhancement second-degree felony charges Which is you which usually have a sentence of 1 to 15 years can be upgraded to life in prison Look, man.
I don't like the prison system.
It's only gonna make these people crazier or worse Actually, I take that back.
You know why?
Do you know who the bike lock basher is?
adam crigler
I know of it.
tim pool
What was that guy's name?
lydia smith
His name was Eric.
tim pool
Eric what?
lydia smith
He was a teacher of philosophy, I believe, at Berkeley.
Yeah, I remember finding him mildly ironic.
unidentified
Was he?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
He was an adjunct.
tim pool
The bike lock basher.
Yeah.
He's a super villain.
adam crigler
Tell us about him.
tim pool
He went around with a bike lock in Berkeley and he bashed seven people over the head with a bike lock.
These are kill shots.
There was one dude on his knees with his hands up and he comes out of the crowd and he just cracks them over the skull.
adam crigler
Jeez.
tim pool
Yeah.
So these people are nuts, I suppose?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But this guy had the strikethrough tattoo on his chest, which is the Antifa symbol of the three arrows.
Do you think that guy would fare well in a prison for violent offenders?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
What kind of groups function in prisons?
adam crigler
Gangs.
tim pool
Gangs.
And what kind of gang are the white people in?
white supremacist. So what do you think's gonna happen when the scrawny you know white hippie
dude shows up, well I shouldn't call him a hippie, he's violent and he's literally got the tattoo
you know they're gonna be like what's up?
What are you gonna do about it?
That guy would not survive.
adam crigler
No, not at all.
tim pool
Now look, I gotta be honest, my understanding of prison is based on movies and TV shows, so it's probably not completely accurate.
adam crigler
No, I watched this YouTube video about an ex-convict who was talking about these Antifa types saying they have no idea what they're in for if they go to prison.
Literally what you're saying that's what he was saying cuz he's saying the these gangs these they they operate in groups Every single different type of group exists inside of a gate inside of a race based, right?
And it is and it's sad, but it's true.
I mean, you know that I You know, I think it's sad, but that's that's what the reality is.
So these people they're like anti-fascist and Anti-racism!
They get put into prison where they have tattoos.
They have no group.
Every single person in there is like, you're minced meat.
tim pool
Well, you know what man, this guy got, he basically got a free pass.
He got let go.
He tried, he basically tried to kill seven people and they wouldn't even charge him with this stuff.
adam crigler
What?
lydia smith
There's a guy- Three years probation.
tim pool
There's a guy on his knees with his hands up trying to stop the fighting and he cracked him over the head.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
Yeah, it's insane.
These people are terrorists.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, targeted a dude on his knees.
unidentified
Where was this?
tim pool
In Berkeley.
adam crigler
In Berkeley.
tim pool
Yup.
A guy got on his knees in between both crowds putting his hands up and tried stopping people from fighting.
So he cracked him over the skull with a bike lock.
We call him the Bike Lock Basher.
So these people, man, life in prison, huh?
What do you think's gonna happen to them if they go to prison for that long?
adam crigler
They're not gonna go to prison for life.
tim pool
No, no, no, it's not even about life, it's about prison.
adam crigler
So if they go to prison, they're gonna get, they're gonna become someone's... How long do you think they're gonna cry for?
I can't say the, female dog?
What's the slang for that?
tim pool
That is, excuse me, that is a sexist stereotype.
It is offensive.
It's offensive hate speech.
unidentified
I'm not offended.
adam crigler
Thanks for clarifying, Tim.
tim pool
How long do you think these people are going to cry for?
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
How long do you think she cried for when she found out?
adam crigler
You've seen Shawshank Redemption, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Where they bet on who's going to cry first?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
I'd put my money on all of them.
tim pool
No, but how long will they be crying for?
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
Because we know they're going to cry.
adam crigler
Well, they're going to toughen up eventually over the Things they're gonna be dealing with.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
You know what's kind of crazy?
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I can't remember what movie it is that I saw, but it was about this dude who goes to prison
and it was like, he was a teenager, you know, I can't remember what the movie was.
He goes to prison and he becomes a white supremacist because, like, that's the gang he had to join.
Okay.
And it turned him into that.
When he got out of prison, that was his whole world now.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
That's sad.
Yeah, something like that. Could you imagine these Antifa people running around yelling like bash to fash and like
throwing paint and screaming and crying?
They come out of prison all like hard as stone and super racist like just a total inversion of whatever it is
They are now. Yeah, you give them a few years and their only survival is to toughen up and join a gang
Yeah, and all of a sudden there's you know I'll tell you what though the good the good news for my
guess is now that Bill Barr is going after all of these people
Dropping the hammer at justice. Yeah, they'll be able to form their own Antifa gang in the prison. That's a good
point There'll be enough of them where they're going to be like, you know, hanging out together.
Of course, they'll be the weakest gang because the super ripped dudes in the other gangs are going to be like, shut up.
I'm going to tell you what to do.
Let's read a little bit more.
Check this out.
They say one of the protesters is 28 year old Madalena McNeil, who, according to arrest records, was charged with felonies of criminal mischief and rioting.
But the Daily Beast said buying paint.
You see how this works?
adam crigler
It's not rioting to buy paint.
You could just buy paint.
tim pool
Well, apparently, if we're taking both at face value, they're charging with rioting for buying paint.
No.
Actually, she did buy paint, but she later shoved a police officer.
adam crigler
Hey!
tim pool
Let's try this again.
adam crigler
Battery.
tim pool
Let's try this again.
I'm not scared.
She faces life in prison after allegedly shoving a police officer.
lydia smith
Assaulting a police officer?
tim pool
Assaulting a police officer.
There you go!
The July 9th protest was held after Gill said the officer involved shooting that resulted in the death of Bernardo Palacio was justified.
McNeil, who said she spent Tuesday night in jail and has since been released, told KUTV that she didn't do anything wrong, but that it would be silly to look at the potential of life in prison and not be scared.
Now to be fair, I will say innocent until proven guilty.
Alright, so we'll see how these things play out.
There's a court of law for these things.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, she shoved the police officer.
That's pretty bad.
tim pool
I haven't seen a video of it.
adam crigler
I haven't either.
tim pool
Yeah, a cop can tell me it happened and I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, show me proof.
Look, I don't like people who go around starting fights, riding, smashing windows and all that stuff.
States still got to prove it.
adam crigler
That's true.
And well, I mean, if it comes down to it, the state's going to believe the police officer.
tim pool
Oh yeah, and it's a problem.
It's a huge problem.
But I'll clarify my position.
I'm talking about the idea.
adam crigler
Wait, hold on.
Are you saying that they should have more funding for maybe every cop to have body cams?
tim pool
I mean, that'd be fantastic.
Livestream it.
adam crigler
Yeah, then they can all be held accountable for anything that they have to deal with?
tim pool
Here's what I'm saying.
I don't know about this lady, but I'll tell you two things.
The media is falsely framing the story, first and foremost.
I don't know if she actually did it, she's being accused.
We'll see if, you know, the trial proves beyond a reasonable doubt.
But we've already got this media outlet saying, she only bought paint, oh no!
No, she's accused of assaulting an officer, let's be real, and smashing windows and throwing paint around.
This story from CBS brings up the issue of gang, well they both bring up the issue of gang enhancement.
I lean for gang enhancement charges for these Antifa people, 100%.
adam crigler
I agree.
They are.
They're gangs.
I looked, actually, just now while you were talking to find the pictures of the front of the DA's office.
I can't find it.
tim pool
Oh, really?
adam crigler
It's lost in my Twitter feed.
tim pool
A lot of people... Oh, but people were showing you.
adam crigler
People were showing me.
They're like, yo, check us out.
And I was like, whoa.
And now we're talking about it.
Now I'm trying to find it.
I can't even find it.
But, I mean, it's covered in red paint.
The windows are smashed in.
It's crazy.
So, it wasn't like they just spilled a little bit of paint everywhere, but it's crazy.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, they poured it over.
adam crigler
Yeah, did you find the pictures?
lydia smith
I found the picture, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
They poured it all over the place.
lydia smith
Yeah, right down the front.
tim pool
I did a quick little edit to fix the article.
adam crigler
Oh, you did?
tim pool
Yeah, I did.
I, uh, I'm just kidding.
This is not real.
I, uh, while Adam was talking, I went, I went into the source code and just changed the text.
So it says, after allegedly assaulting an officer.
lydia smith
Oh, wow, dude.
tim pool
I fixed it for you, Daily Beast.
After allegedly assaulting an officer.
No, no, no.
I was making a point.
I was making a point.
lydia smith
Easily done.
tim pool
But I'm making a point about the media.
They could have said, she's facing it.
And they could have made the title something more specific, like for gang enhancement.
adam crigler
Or for riding with her gang and assaulting a DA's office and a police officer.
tim pool
What is the job of a journalist?
adam crigler
All of those have happened.
tim pool
What is the job of a journalist?
adam crigler
Well, it was to uphold the truth and tell the people exactly that.
tim pool
To help people understand what's happening in the world.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
What did this person just do for the Daily Beast?
Confused people.
adam crigler
Well, they pushed the narrative they want people to think.
tim pool
Well, in a simple sense, they made it harder to understand what's actually happening.
adam crigler
Tucker Carlson said this on his show the other night.
He said that here's some stuff that's happened, and you know, that's what the news is supposed to be for.
It's for you to decide how you feel about what has actually happened, and that's what I'm trying to do.
tim pool
It's not news.
adam crigler
No, no, I know.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The Daily Beast is not news.
adam crigler
No, the Daily Beast is clearly not news.
The point I'm making is... But you just asked me what news is supposed to be, what a journalist is supposed to do.
It's supposed to convey what's actually happening, and then you take what you will from it.
tim pool
A little bit more than that.
Journalists help you understand the truth.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
What she's doing is the opposite of that.
So whatever the opposite of a journalist is, that's what the Daily Beast is doing.
I'm not going to name the person, but to put it simply, If someone said to you... I think the easiest way you can explain it is the dihydrogen monoxide hoax, which you're familiar with, right?
I am, yeah.
It's an old-school, like, funny thing where you say, like, did you know dihydrogen monoxide is a, you know, corrosive chemical that can eat through metal, and it's found in cancer cells, and everybody gets all scared, and you say, we should ban it, and it turns out it's actually water, and you're framing it in such a way to confuse them.
That's not journalism, it's sophistry.
So you have these people who are, you have some real journalists, but I mean you look at the articles we've gone through today already, with like the hack of Reddit, and you have no real understanding of what happened with the Reddit hack.
Not journalism to just be like, a bunch of Trump messages appeared on this website and people say it was a hack.
It's like, well, if you want them to understand to the best of their ability what really happened, you need to break everything down for them and say, but the messages were written in Chinese, so we can't necessarily conclude who or why this was done.
They don't do that, though.
It's like, I tell you, man, you've got two kinds of journalists in the world.
Actually, there's technically three, but let's go first.
I would say probably 40% of journalists are sitting in chairs leaning back with like their mouth half open drooling going and their boss comes in and they're like, can you write about this hack thing?
Oh, I guess and then they look and say Trump hack They forget to capitalize letters words are missing like yeah grammar was totally messed up There's no editor and they hit send and they publish it.
They're like there.
I'm done.
Can I go home now?
Then you have, I would say, about 59% of journalists are just political operatives,
trying to figure out ways to cover a story as such that it would benefit their political agenda.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
So this is a much bigger faction. And they're sitting there looking at a story and they're
going, dude, did you see this?
This woman attacking the DA's office?
This is bad.
She's being charged with gang enhancement.
Now all these people are.
Just write it and say it was paint.
You're right.
adam crigler
She bought paint.
That's it.
tim pool
How else can we frame this to protect them?
And then you have 1% of journalists that are like, let's get to the bottom of this and really understand this to make sure that our audience has a firm grasp of the political realities of our world.
And those are the rare ones.
One in a hundred might actually be doing it.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm clapping for you right now.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't take this away from me.
I'm clapping for you because you're one of those people.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, I think what we do on this is an attempt to try and break down what's happening to better understand what's really going on.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the gist of everything.
Exactly.
I could sit here and be like, wow, look at all those dumb Trump supporters who are hacking Reddit.
And then we were done.
You know what I mean?
It's like, no, we're actually gonna try and break it down.
But this is, unfortunately, what you end up getting.
Which brings me to the next hilarious bit in the whole narrative.
What's this?
The New York Times now acknowledging that maybe people don't like violent riots?
Here's the funny part.
I tell you what, man.
The New York Times wrote this article, abolish the police?
Those who survived the chaos in Seattle aren't so sure.
What is it like when a city abandons a neighborhood and the police vanish?
Business owners describe a harrowing experience of calling for help and being left all alone.
You know what's funny about it?
They mentioned specifically that the main guy in their story is a gay man of Middle Eastern descent who moved from Texas there so he could be more comfortably out.
And the reason that's funny is not because of this person, it's because they ignored his plight.
When the chas was going on in Seattle and Antifa was romping about with guns, oppressing this man, harassing him, harassing his customers, and barricading him
in some instances, from even coming in to where his store was,
the New York Times wrote a whole bunch of articles that were just like,
dumb things like, why is everybody talking about Antifa?
It's a summer of love. We're gonna have a great time.
adam crigler
Business owners love Chaz.
Really?
Do they?
Go ahead.
tim pool
This guy, look at this.
Young white men wielding guns would harangue customers, as well as Mr. Khan, a gay man of Middle Eastern descent
who moved from Texas so he could be more comfortably out.
To get into his coffee shop, he sometimes had to seek the permission of self-appointed armed guards
to cross a border they'd erected.
They barricaded us all in here, Mr. Khan said, and they were sitting in lawn chairs with guns
for 23 days in June.
About six blocks in the city's Capitol Hill neighborhood were claimed by left-wing demonstrators
and declared police-free.
Protesters hailed it as liberation from police oppression from white supremacy and a catalyst for a national movement.
And then they go and talk about, you know, George Floyd, how it started.
They say, some even call for abolishing the police altogether and closing down precincts, which happen in Seattle.
That has left small business owners as lonely voices in progressive areas arguing that police officers are necessary and that cities cannot function without a robust public safety presence.
Yeah.
Well, here we go.
They mention Portland, Oregon, many other businesses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In interviews, they express support for the Black Lives Matter movement, but they also word their businesses already debilitated by the coronavirus pandemic will struggle to survive if police departments and city governments cannot protect them.
You know what?
I'm sorry, man.
I don't really care anymore, to be honest.
You know why?
adam crigler
Because of what?
They didn't stand up for themselves when they were there?
tim pool
Because these cities vote for them.
And look, at a certain point, I can be like, I am sorry this is happening to you.
But after months of this, with the Democratic states locking down and destroying the local economies, conservative Republican states didn't do this as much.
They're doing it in some places.
With the Democrats and some Republicans, you know, overseeing the arrest of business owners.
At a certain point, you've got to leave because you are being targeted, because the government is oppressive, or you can't vote for these people.
But I'll tell you what, right now there's a tendency.
I see these journalists post on Twitter, some of them, these are people who actually quit the news industry, will point out, like, has anybody checked the numbers on these conservative Republican states that didn't lock down and they're doing fine?
And you look at New York that went nuts and is the worst in the country, or was.
adam crigler
Yeah, and then you got de Blasio and Cuomo out there touting that they're the best, they handled it the best since day one.
tim pool
While they literally laugh as they burn everything to the ground.
I covered a story earlier on one of my channels where they've put homeless people in Upper West Side luxury hotels.
adam crigler
Yeah, three of them.
tim pool
And do you know what these people are doing?
adam crigler
Yeah, they're pissing in the hallways, they're doing drugs.
tim pool
Everywhere.
adam crigler
Offering crack to, you know, the mother who's walking their two-year-old kid down the street.
It's crazy.
tim pool
I'm gonna give you guys a family-friendly warning.
Earmuffs, if you've got kids.
Alright?
I'm gonna say it one more time.
If you've got kids listening, earmuffs.
Because here we go.
There's a photo of a dude cranking it on the sidewalk outside this hotel.
Yup.
That's what New York City has become.
How crazy, man.
adam crigler
It's going back in time.
tim pool
Yeah, they really want to bring it all back to the way things used to be.
Can you think of any reason why de Blasio is doing this?
adam crigler
Maybe to de-gentrify New York?
I'm kind of serious though.
I mean, if you think about it, if all the wealthy people are leaving, all the property value is going to die out.
tim pool
And then it's an opportunity for people to snatch it all up.
So these billionaires will buy up all these garbage properties.
adam crigler
I didn't even think about it that way, but I guess if you think about the long run, all the people with money are like, you know what, I'll just buy it.
And while it's in terrible shape, whatever, I don't care.
Eventually it'll get back.
tim pool
You know Bill de Blasio was a landlord?
adam crigler
Of course he is.
tim pool
That makes sense.
like nine grand a month according to one article I was reading from Rental Income.
So here's what happens. They burn New York City to the ground. They buy it up.
They buy it up. They as in the establishment, politicians, their buddies.
So New York becomes uninhabitable for a couple years.
Relatively.
Wow.
Property values collapse to a substantial degree.
Wealthy real estate developers come in and buy up as much as they can from all the small
businesses and look, one of the issues I have with the progressive tax system right now
is that it stops at I think $250K, which means if you make $300K, you're being taxed very
Okay.
Which makes it harder for you to become a wealthy industrialist or real estate agent, you know, tycoon or whatever.
adam crigler
I see.
tim pool
But if you're making millions upon millions of dollars, you're being taxed at the same percentage.
It's easier for you, with your millions, to make big investments.
So, this is one of the things I really do agree with Bernie Sanders on, is expanding the progressive tax brackets.
adam crigler
In fact, Oh, that makes sense.
I can see that.
tim pool
So Bernie's proposal actually would lower taxes for people who make, I think, like $250,000 to $500,000.
You'd pay less.
Because not everybody who makes more than $250,000 is making $50 billion.
adam crigler
So it would just basically expand the numbers.
tim pool
It would stretch it out.
And I think that makes sense.
It definitely makes sense.
But anyway, that's a whole other issue.
The point is, There are people in New York City who are wealthy.
Maybe they make $500,000 a year.
These are the 1% in New York.
But you make $500,000 a year, you might own one or two buildings in New York City.
You're someone like Bezos, who's got, you know, liquid assets in the hundreds of billions, you know, hundred-something billion, and he owns a bunch of hard assets.
Bezos can, you know, Elon Musk, billionaires can start buying up more properties with less risk.
So here's what happens.
When Bill de Blasio just decimates these cities, then the people who are making half a mil have to sell their one or two properties.
Maybe they have a little bit more than that.
I mean, I think a lot of the people making half a mil probably are real estate developers, probably own rental properties.
But now they've got no renties, no rent coming in, so they sell at a massive discount in desperation.
And they get out of the city.
Then the big wigs, the real money, they can come in and snap their fingers, they tell their management company, they say, hey, buy up that whole row of buildings, they're up for sale, I'll take them all, for dirt.
And then we'll sit on them for a couple years, I ain't got nothing to worry about.
And now, five years from now or whatever, when the city's recovered, it will have a lot less individual ownership of these properties.
So maybe that's why they're burning it all down.
Anyway, the main point, however, is more so what the far left has been doing with the rioting, and that's another point.
Why would Bill de Blasio allow these people to go out and riot?
Why would he paint these messages on the ground?
This resulted in driving away half a million people and some of the wealthier people who live there.
It's going to make the property values of New York go in the gutter.
adam crigler
I'll keep my eye on it.
Buy a building in a few years.
No joke!
tim pool
I'm not going anywhere near New York ever again.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Unless you're going to be one of these ultra-wealthy billionaires or millionaires, you're going to be smacked down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It reminds me of that story from Donald Trump where he was like walking with one of his kids and he pointed the homeless guy and says, see that man?
He's rich.
He's wealthier than I am because Donald, cause Trump's liabilities were higher than his, his assets or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He owed more than he actually had, but he was still a billionaire.
It's like a weird, weird how that works.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And it reminds me of that.
They're going to be a lot of people who will buy a bunch of properties, even if they're not super wealthy.
Once the, once they go down to the gutter and then they'll figure out ways to maintain it just enough so that when the property value goes up, they'll turn a quick profit.
All in all though, I think ultimately the city's just gonna be burnt to the ground, you know, figuratively.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
You know, so I would stay away from them.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, there's also the conspiracy that we may go to war and that they're trying to keep everyone from the big cities.
tim pool
Well, that's what somebody said in the chat the other day, in the super chat, that what if they're trying to push people out of cities out of fear of some kind of strike?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe, I guess.
I think maybe is always the easiest way to look at it, because yeah, I mean, you know, we're dangerously close to war with China.
Trump's actions are really gonna ruffle some feathers, man.
adam crigler
It's true, yeah.
tim pool
So it's possible.
Like I said it before, man, you think about the results of a lot of this and it is beneficial to the United States in the event of a war.
Not the civil unrest and discord.
That's bad for us.
This unity.
But if you've got people leaving cities, decentralizing our economy, going, you know, only essential jobs now.
So people are getting away from vanity jobs, trying to find jobs that actually are essential to help the country function.
They're buying guns like crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah, record numbers.
tim pool
So, you know, if we did go to war, we're going to have a ton of guns everywhere.
A lot of armed people.
And I'll tell you what, trained.
adam crigler
I mean, they're not only buying, I mean, I'm reading stories about it.
Everyone's buying guns, but everyone's training.
They're talking about how, you know, they were scared to have a gun.
They didn't believe in guns at the beginning of the year for most of their life.
But now they've got a gun and they've gotten training, which is very important.
And now they're like, you know, I feel like I can handle myself in situations where a gun is required.
And it's like, Good, because you should know what you're doing with it.
tim pool
I tweeted this out, I think it was early today.
About seven months ago, I said straight up, I do not want any guns in my house, period.
Just no.
Just not happening.
I'm not going to deal with this.
Then COVID happened, and I was like, wow, people are rushing to buy guns.
They're worried about this.
I should consider this.
And the riots happened, and I was like, one gun, please?
And I went to the store, and now I have several.
And Crowder actually got me a SIG, but we're trying to expand and move to a bigger facility, so we're a bit jammed up in that regard.
But yes, Crowder did send me that SIG, and it's chilling waiting for me, modified, all ready to go.
I just can't go and pick it up.
It's gotta be shipped to a new location.
adam crigler
Because you're a workaholic.
tim pool
It's not just that, it's gotta be shipped to the proper location, to put it simply.
And right now, it had to be modified, so it had to be sent to a specific facility.
Now that it is, it's gotta be sent to another place, but we're like a week out, or two weeks from relocating, so I'm like, if they're gonna send, yeah, it's too, it's too, it's a weird, yeah, we're jammed up.
But I'll tell you what, man, I was thinking about it, and I was, you know, so we had the, what was it, the AG in New York?
Yeah.
Is trying to dissolve the NRA.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
I don't know anything about the NRA to be honest other than like they're like a really really old like I guess they call themselves the oldest civil rights organization because it was formed in like 1870 something oh wow yeah so I don't know much about them they're accused of a bunch of wrongdoing and stuff but it's interesting to me now that I'm paying attention to this because I'm like when I see these Democrats now say things like we should have a nationwide gun ban on certain things I'm now now I see myself going like no yeah no how dare you seven months ago nope It was the riots that did it.
And I sat and thought about it, really, and I was like, oh, wow, my opinion really did change on this.
Because the threat became, you know, too big.
And I think that really is a good way to understand people's political opinions on certain issues.
The people who are pro-2A, many of them live out in the middle of nowhere and must defend themselves.
They don't have this luxury of a cop who's around the corner.
And even when the cop is around the corner, there's no guarantee they'll be there fast enough if someone breaks into your house.
adam crigler
Well, now we've got these places that Where you're talking about, where they were around the corner.
Key word, they were.
They're no longer there.
They're defunding them.
Right.
So they're making these cities that used to have this presence of police around the corner that you can be like, you know what?
They're around the corner.
They'll be here in no time.
You know, we don't need guns in cities.
tim pool
This goes back to the whole Democrats, the riots have ruined them, in my opinion.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Because now I'm thinking about it, and if they controlled the riots, I probably would still be complacent and comfortable not thinking twice about needing self-defense.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
But because they supported Black Lives Matter and they supported the rioting, and they still do.
adam crigler
Yeah, and they're shutting down, going to church, pretty much anything other than rioting they're cracking down on.
tim pool
Now I'm more like, I can't support anybody who comes out for gun control.
In any capacity.
Literally any.
And it's because of the riots, and because they've demoralized the police, they've stripped them of their access and resources, and they openly violate the law to benefit themselves.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
All the time, nonstop.
It's getting more and more blatant, too.
tim pool
So now I'm sitting here thinking, like, these people hate me, they oppose me, and I have done nothing to them.
And it's the weirdest thing to see, like, Bill de Blasio, all the horrifying things this man has done.
Like, man, I tell you, he really hates people.
He just hates, hates, hates, hates.
It's right there.
He bypasses the permit process using taxpayer funds to paint a political message that will benefit his campaign and then has the NYPD guarding that message in front of Trump Tower.
adam crigler
27 officers, more than any unit that's even in the NYPD.
So not only are they defunding the police, taking the crime units out of these areas that need them, That now, I don't remember the exact number, over 180% increase in homicides now happening in these areas.
But he's got 27 officers guarding this Black Lives Matter, and they're actually, there was an article I read today about, they're thinking about just not repaying it, because it's been vandalized so much, it's causing taxpayers more money, not, well I mean, just money, period, and it's too much.
tim pool
If it were up to me and I was going to be filing action, I'll just put it this way.
My personal thoughts on this is that Bill de Blasio should immediately be impeached for taking taxpayer funds and all 27 of those officers should be fired and be stripped of their retirements or whatever they have coming to them.
They should immediately lose their jobs.
Done.
End of story.
Lose their jobs in any benefit they should have had.
Kicked out.
Stripped.
Nothing.
I'll tell you why.
You aid and abet a corrupt politician who is illegally placing a campaign message and stand guard over it?
That's your choice.
And if you want to stand against the people and against the Constitution, I will absolutely be standing against you.
So how about this?
We get some legal action against Bill de Blasio for violating the law and stealing taxpayer funds to repeatedly defend A political message for his campaign and all of the cops who thought, I'm just gonna do whatever I'm told and support this corrupt politician stealing taxpayer funds.
You're along with him.
I'll tell you what, man.
If you're standing next to the criminal and you're blocking us from dealing with it, you're aiding and abetting.
Just like I said with Antifa and the wall of moms.
You want to be a wall of moms standing in front of these far-left extremists throwing explosives?
You may as well be... You're literally contributing to that.
adam crigler
That's another gang.
The moms.
They're all dressing together.
They're all dressing the same.
They're all attacking the precincts.
They're just as guilty as the other rioters.
tim pool
They are the other rioters.
It's the same thing.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
tim pool
They just changed their clothes.
adam crigler
But they're a legitimate gang.
They've got a group.
They've got a name.
They've got an outfit.
They're attacking just the same.
That's a gang.
Yeah, and they have a name, too.
tim pool
The Wall of Mums.
adam crigler
I'm just slamming it home, because I want people to realize that.
tim pool
So listen, I am absolutely fed up when I read these articles that are so tribalist.
They will defend the police who are violating the law.
unidentified
And I'm like, nah, I'm not playing that game.
tim pool
My views, my defense is for the Constitution of these United States, of this country, of upholding the law.
So I'm no fan of the cops who killed Breonna Taylor.
I'm no fan of police brutality.
But I'll tell you this, There is no excuse for defending someone like Bill de Blasio.
There is no excuse for seizing the legal firearm of someone defending their property from a violent mob that they're scared of because these people have been implicated in murdering others.
So when I see these videos, man, of the cops, like, there was a cop arresting, um, what's, Bevelyn?
Was that her name?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Bevelyn Beatty?
adam crigler
Bevelyn Beatty, yeah.
tim pool
As she's yelling for funding the police, I'm like, yeah, you know what, man?
There are a lot of really, really good cops in this country, especially the local guys here that I talked to.
These guys are awesome.
adam crigler
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
And there are a lot of cops that straight-up said, we will not enforce unconstitutional law.
Remember that one cop who did that viral video and he got fired for it?
adam crigler
Really?
He got fired for that?
Oh, out in Seattle or something, right?
He was talking out about it, yeah.
tim pool
And he was like, I will not be enforcing unconstitutional laws and all that stuff.
And then they terminate him.
These guys are heroes.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
But the people who are like, I don't care about you, I don't care about the Constitution, if Bill de Blasio wants to siphon public funds for his re-election campaign, I'll stand right next to him and protect him.
That, to me, is someone pissing on the Constitution.
adam crigler
Truth.
tim pool
I'm not happy about it, man.
adam crigler
Or how about Mayor Garcetti, is that his name, in L.A.?
Yep.
With draconian measures?
What is he doing?
tim pool
It's these cities, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They find people who willfully say, I don't care about the Constitution.
But it's amazing, you go out to these suburbs and you go to smaller towns, and you start to find more cops that are like, nah, I don't play that game.
The Constitution is what we're here to defend, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Definitely, yeah.
tim pool
But we even have it out here in the Philly suburbs, the guys who arrested the business owners, and I'm, you know what man, maybe it's the, that's so weird.
When I hear the lefties call people bootlickers, it's usually for the stupidest nonsensical reason.
That's like just not true.
But it reminds me of when the left actually, like when I was, the left left me is the easiest way to put it.
I remember when I was standing next to people who were like, war is bad.
And I was like, yes it is.
And now Trump is like, war is bad.
And I'm like, thank you, sir.
And I look to my left and they're like, nah, nah, we're, you know, he said it, so we're out.
So you never really thought war was bad, did you?
adam crigler
Well, it's interesting because the whole walk away movement, Why, we didn't really go anywhere.
You're saying, though, the left walked away.
They're the ones who kept veering further and further away.
Now we can't even see them.
They're over by my hand.
You can't see that anymore.
tim pool
They're so far left.
They're off the cliff.
They're falling into the ocean.
I don't know what's going on.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm still in the middle.
I'm still very much right in the center where I've always been, you know?
tim pool
Look, I see these articles, right?
There was an article about Atlas Gym, where the two gym owners were being basically harassed by cops and the government and the Democratic mayor, and they eventually got arrested, came back, kicked the door in.
adam crigler
That was awesome.
You saw that video?
tim pool
When they kicked it in?
unidentified
Boof!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
And there's some great photos.
unidentified
America!
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
But there were people there saying, recognize the cops are just doing what they're being forced to do this and all this stuff.
And I'm like, no, they aren't.
Could you imagine if everyone in this country who, you know, stood up for themselves stood up at the same time?
All of this would be over and everything would be back to being great.
Back to the wonderful and glorious economy under Trump, which was the best in generations, the best numbers of our lives.
Jim Cramer says record low unemployment, people's salaries were skyrocketing.
That's where we want to go.
To get there, we need everybody of good conscience to stand up and say, we've had enough of these ridiculous people burning things down.
We've had enough of these corrupt politicians stealing taxpayer funds.
And we don't.
We don't get it.
adam crigler
Well, the problem is it's ignorance.
People are too busy being complacent in their lives that are rather comfortable compared to other places in the world, compared to the past history of humanity, like what we've got right now.
People have a lot on their minds that isn't politics, that isn't, you know, these things that if we all knew what was really going on, it would be really easy for everyone to go, you know what?
We're all sick of this, right?
Yeah.
All right, let's get up and go march.
tim pool
Organizing.
adam crigler
But no one's that aware.
You and I, we're in it.
We see it every day.
We're witnessing and analyzing everything, breaking it down.
And not everyone has that time even to even do a little bit of this kind of stuff.
tim pool
Remember when the police union in New York came out and was just tearing into this defund the police stuff?
I think it was the union president who said, 375 million interactions with cops, overwhelmingly positive.
He's absolutely correct.
My question then is, why are they allowing Bill de Blasio to manipulate them this way for his political ambitions?
So this is the big issue, right?
I was talking to a friend of mine about all the Black Lives Matter stuff, and she said, where are the conservative organizations going out protesting, creating petitions, petitioning their local politicians?
And I was like, that's a good question.
And where are the moderates, too?
You know, it's not just about conservatives, but I'll tell you this, the moderates, in my opinion, I have the most disdain for.
People like me, who have similar opinions to mine, because conservatives have been actively outfighting, creating media, posting messages, having church events, having Blue Lives Matter rallies, and the disaffected liberal types are few and far between, and most won't say anything.
And I'll tell you what, I've talked to a lot of them, and they're very scared.
I think it's because they're still lefty, but they know they will be destroyed by the left.
So right now, what do you get?
You get a middle that should be the loudest, but won't say anything, and the conservatives are picking up the slack for the scared liberals who won't stand up to the far left.
You see that letter from Harper's, where all these liberals came out and they were like, cancel culture is bad, and they got attacked?
Where were you when every single conservative was coming out and saying, censorship is bad, cancel culture is bad?
They were saying, well, if I just keep my mouth shut, I'll be safe.
And then it was too late.
They expect everyone on the right to protect their rights.
Meanwhile, the far left is taking over more and more of the Democratic Party, gaining more ground and just tearing everything apart and attacking and canceling these people.
Finally, we get like J.K.
Rowling to stand up.
These are the people who should have stood up a long time ago, but they've been bending the knee for so long.
They've emboldened and empowered the far left.
And that's something that Trump supporters say all the time, that the far left is only possible because liberals empowered them and refused to stand up against them.
adam crigler
Well, I'm considered one of those default liberals that now has a platform to hopefully inspire other liberals that are minded like me that can stand up and start speaking.
tim pool
That's exactly it.
adam crigler
And you know what?
A lot of people come up to me and say, you know what?
You inspire me to get up and start talking.
And they're talking and they come to me again and they go, you know what?
I'm shocked!
I started having conversations with people and it turns out they're Trump supporters!
So we're starting to have this, this confidence building.
Like I feel it.
I feel it building because people are like, Hey, you know what?
I'm a Trump supporter.
I'm kind of sick of this.
And the other person that they're not sure where they're at.
You know, I'm actually a Trump supporter.
I agree with you.
They are crazy.
Like you said, there's three groups, right?
There's the far left that are crazy.
There's the Democrats that are like, not sure whether to like how to use the power of the craziness, but really want the majority to love them.
And then the majority are just like, y'all are crazy.
We're not the racist ones.
You guys are racist.
Why are you being so racist?
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
I'll tell you what needs to be said.
Disaffected liberals, moderates, independents, especially the ones who know exactly what's going on, cannot sit back and think Trump supporters will pick up the slack for them.
And what I mean by this is Trump's base is Vocal, to say the least.
I mean, the memes of the guy with the flags and the wind, you've talked about before, and it's like a storm, and he's like, yeah, America!
adam crigler
Yeah, the guy in Florida.
tim pool
Trump supporters, conservatives, and Trump Republicans stand up on the hilltop and scream their support.
And it's not so much about supporting Trump, it's denouncing the insanity of the far left.
And then you have moderates, liberals, and independent-type centrists sitting back saying, I hope that guy wins.
It's like, nah, he wins when you form a front and the center holds, and then you can push out these crazies.
Because it's what we're talking about, these groups.
If the liberals, who are upset by this, the centrists, joined in and stood up and yelled alongside the conservatives and the Trump supporters who have been complaining about this stuff for a while, it'd be over.
adam crigler
Well, and also, like, you look at who Trump is to most Americans.
He's like, he's like the champion that everyone's like, yes, we've got this guy standing up to the establishment.
This is what we wanted.
Like, he's he's our champion.
We need that.
Across the board we need we need everyone that they're like wow my state Representative is a champion right our senator is a champion.
They're fighting for us So get out there and find out who your representatives are and if you don't like who they are become that representative boom mic drop Yeah.
tim pool
There's a lot of people doing it.
I woke up this morning and I saw a post about Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell in trouble.
Was it Mitch McConnell?
lydia smith
Yeah, they were both in trouble.
tim pool
Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham were in trouble.
And I just couldn't help but tweet it because they suck.
Yeah, they do.
They had two years.
adam crigler
All these incumbents suck.
tim pool
Well, so the Republicans had everything for two years and what did they do?
And from 2016 to 2018, wow, they could have changed everything.
adam crigler
I read a really interesting thread about it, though, because It was about how Trump was... They needed to go.
Because they did suck.
tim pool
They do suck.
adam crigler
So it's almost like... It's better that they lost control for the crazy Democrats to take control and for everyone to see how crazy they are.
And now getting some new... And now we got a red wave coming.
And you know it.
You see it.
I feel it.
tim pool
It's a populist wave.
Even better.
adam crigler
You're right.
Americans.
tim pool
Aren't a bunch of these incumbent establishment Republicans losing?
lydia smith
Yeah, a lot of them have been.
tim pool
They're not doing that great.
A bunch of them have been losing, and a bunch of them have been retiring.
And I'm like, good.
And I'll tell you what, man, I have a prediction.
My prediction is that 10 years from now, the Republican Party will have been completely transformed into a, like this tent we're talking about of disaffected liberals, centrists, Trump supporters, and while we simultaneously rag on, you know, these awful Republicans, I think this will be the future of the Republican Party.
adam crigler
Yeah, I see it.
tim pool
And the Democrats, I think, will become super far left.
adam crigler
Yeah, and you know what?
I'm also seeing a lot of, like, non-politicians getting into politics.
You know, moms that have been politically active, you know, going to city council meetings, but they raised their kids.
Now they're like, you know what?
I'm politically... I know what I'm doing.
I'm gonna run.
And they're winning!
And I'm like, yeah!
You know, and then we got, we got veterans that are coming back after fighting and they're like, you know what?
We should not be in wars anymore.
And actually, you know what?
I'm politically aware because all we've done is watch what's going on and we're sick of it.
And they're getting politically involved.
Yeah, sure.
Not all, not all of them, but no, no.
tim pool
Some Republicans are for the war.
adam crigler
That's, well, some, though, but from what I'm seeing, though, these veterans, that's not where they're at.
They're like, man, we do need to make America stronger.
tim pool
Well, so to clarify, you've got, I think, eight Republicans supported Trump in his efforts to withdraw from the Middle East.
unidentified
Eight.
tim pool
And three Democrats.
You know, I thought to myself, I'm like, is this where I am?
Like, wow, I am the vocal minority on this war stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, why are we at war?
tim pool
All of the- but is- what I mean is like, don't most Americans think war is dumb?
adam crigler
Like we- I thought so.
tim pool
Yeah, not anymore because Trump is opposed to it so now they support it.
adam crigler
No, I don't know.
No, the majority of Americans don't want to be at war.
tim pool
Guaranteed.
I know, but I told you about my friend who was like a liberal and I said, how do you feel about withdrawing from Afghanistan?
And they're like, uh, like, I feel like this question is leading somewhere.
Like, yeah, Trump, Trump is trying to withdraw our troops.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know, Trump said something.
tim pool
They were like, well, I did read this article from this person.
It's like a neocon.
And I was like, you're a liberal telling me that you read an article from a neocon and now you're like questioning whether or not you really do support war.
adam crigler
That's insane!
Trump said this, he said, there's this rumor, there's this stereotype that Americans are soft, that they're sheep, that they're pushovers.
And that couldn't be further from the truth.
We're strong.
We love America.
The real Americans are out there.
They're standing up.
They are law-abiding citizens.
They vote with their money.
They vote when the voting time comes.
And that's what's happening.
They're watching all this.
They're aware.
They're waiting for their time to legally take over again.
And that's what's happening.
Props to all my Americans out there.
tim pool
So I guess we'll see how this turns out in November, as I usually say.
But I will add, the left is saying a lot of the same things we're saying about people waking up.
These progressives are absolutely convinced that the silent majority is ultra-progressive.
And they use, in my opinion, like I looked at the polls they use, where they're like, most Americans support the Green New Deal and universal health care, and the questions are always very misleading.
So that's why I just don't buy it.
I think Americans, for the most part, would love the idea of a utopian, you know, wonder future, but don't think it's possible for a good reason.
There was something I read a while ago, Because I was actually, before they announced the actual details of the Green New Deal, I was in favor of it.
The idea being, you know, public investment into infrastructure and technology to help improve the energy.
I'm like, that sounds fantastic!
adam crigler
Yeah, I can get behind that.
tim pool
Yeah, so we got crumbling infrastructure, we need better bridges, we can do solar stuff, we can do all these amazing things.
And then what they produced was this weird garbage about, you know, Farting cows and, you know, the whole thing was a mess.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Paying people unwilling to work and then saying, oops.
And I was like, this is a disorganized nightmare that makes no sense.
They were talking about racial equity payments from federal jobs.
I was like, what is this?
This is not... And then they admitted, AOC's, you know, Sekhat Chakrabarty said it was about transforming the economy.
And I'm like, there it is.
But I was reading one of these polls that found, I think, like 86% of Americans supported it.
And the question was, would you support government investment into green technologies to help offset carbon emissions?
Yes or no?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Sounds good.
tim pool
And so now they put, yep, he supports the Green New Deal.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They changed the framing.
adam crigler
Of course they did.
tim pool
And I'm like, listen.
If you said, would you support public investment into green technologies, it could be $100,000.
It could be, you know, a drop in the hat when it comes to, you know, what our actual budget is.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It could be a billion dollars.
It could be a trillion dollars.
Who knows?
But simply asking that question does not get to the complexities of how much money, where, what industries, when.
It's just a general idea.
I think most people would say, sure, yeah, absolutely.
Should the government, I think it was like, should the government be investing in green technologies to help offset carbon emissions?
And most people are like, yeah, sure.
adam crigler
Yeah, sounds good.
tim pool
Yeah, because if my local government said we're going to grant $10,000 to a kid who's got a little windmill science project, you know, to help generate some energy for a greenhouse, it's like, that could be that too.
Or it could be, how much does a Green New Deal cost?
Like $30 trillion?
lydia smith
Oh, unspeakable amounts.
Yeah.
Trillions and trillions of dollars.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
So look, there's a lot of difficult questions to be asked, but The polls, the way they're framing, are trying to make both sides think they're winning.
Now, when it comes to the mainstream media, I think they're out of their minds.
adam crigler
Oh, they are.
tim pool
There was a meme I saw, and it was, you know, Joe Biden versus Trump.
And they're projecting 333 electoral votes for Biden.
unidentified
333?
adam crigler
And then it showed the 2016 version?
Is that what you're talking about?
tim pool
And it was like the same thing for Hillary Clinton.
adam crigler
And I'm like, oh, here we go.
Same person.
The race to 270 electoral votes.
tim pool
But did you see what Marco Rubio published?
adam crigler
No, what?
tim pool
He said there's not gonna be an election night.
adam crigler
No, there won't be.
tim pool
Americans should prepare for election night chaos.
adam crigler
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely.
tim pool
Dude.
What happens, you know?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
Will Trump supporters just decide if, you know, by December 14th, there's no vote, no one knows who won, there's missing votes all over the place?
I'll tell you what.
If we learned within a couple weeks about Patterson, New Jersey's voter disqualifications, 20%, if we learned about Brooklyn's within a couple weeks, There's gonna be mail-in voting across this country for Trump.
They're gonna tally the votes.
And then we're gonna start hearing, oh, did you hear about this county that disqualified 1,000 Trump votes?
Burned them all.
Did you hear about this county that disqualified Biden votes?
And no one's gonna agree, no one's gonna know.
They're both gonna comply and say, those are my votes, those are my votes.
If we have, in Brooklyn, 84,000 disqualified votes, what do you think's gonna happen nationwide?
adam crigler
Well, I'll tell you this.
We have proof.
That the Democrats tried a coup on a sitting president, the one sitting right now in the Oval Office.
Well, maybe he's not sitting there right now, but the current president.
We know they tried to disrupt his campaign.
They spied on him.
They tried to undermine him so he wouldn't win, so Hillary would win.
We have the proof of that.
So why is it a surprise that everybody's out there thinking the same thing?
They're gonna try it this time?
Of course they are.
It's like household talk.
Everyone knows about it.
They're like, we're not idiots anymore.
We know.
tim pool
We know for a fact.
adam crigler
I can't wait to see the Durham Report.
tim pool
We know for a fact that a bunch of these high-ranking former Obama admin people were going on TV and lying about Trump colluding with Russia, saying things like, we've seen the evidence, it exists, and then under oath to Congress in secret meetings said, nope, I have no evidence.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then that got released earlier in the year.
We learned they were lying the whole time.
You look at the FBI evidence that's come out so far, and I would say it's a fair assessment.
The Obama administration was trying to sabotage the incoming administration.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's insane.
It is.
And then what you've got to realize is that the goal, the end goal, was impeachment.
adam crigler
And they tried and failed.
tim pool
That sounds like a coup.
adam crigler
It absolutely is.
tim pool
It sounds like an attempted one.
And they tried going through media manipulation and legal channels, lied about everything.
And I'm telling you, man, the transcripts were made public.
The notes where, you know, they talk about the... What's the Logan Act?
Is that what it's called?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Are they unmasking him?
lydia smith
Which one?
tim pool
The Logan Act?
lydia smith
Yeah, the unmasking thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
So we can see in their notes, should we get him fired?
What are we doing?
We have an insurance policy.
Those text messages.
Then all this leads us to is the impeachment.
Ukrainegate.
The whistleblower whose name we can't say because YouTube will immediately disable the live stream and delete the video.
How insane is that?
adam crigler
It's crazy.
All based on lies.
tim pool
Yep.
Ukraine stuff was so absurd.
adam crigler
So going into this election now, we know that they're trying to push for mail-in voting because they can manipulate it.
Because they can't have Trump win!
Because they're gonna go down!
Well, Newsflash, I don't think it even matters.
I think there's so many Trump voters out there.
I think the majority of America is thinking Trump is the answer.
Trump is fighting the establishment, and we need that.
We need him to finish what he started.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you this, man.
The progressives think the exact same thing about their side.
That America supports them, that America really wanted Bernie, the establishment is holding him back.
Good point.
My response to them is if that's true, then you want Trump to win.
Because the only one stopping a Bernie Sanders landslide was Joe Biden and the Democratic
establishment.
Good point.
Stop supporting them.
You give Trump four more years, the world is not going to end, and then you'll get your
progressive candidate and it'll be populist versus populist and the establishment will
be gone.
Wouldn't that be happy for everybody?
adam crigler
I don't know.
Sounds awesome.
tim pool
Well, the far left populists have kooky ideas.
adam crigler
Well, and they don't think for the long term, though.
That's another issue we don't think about.
They're not looking for down the road.
They're thinking, I want my gratification now.
I don't care.
I just want to be vindicated now.
I just want my dopamine kick right now.
I want to be proven right.
It's like, that's not how life works.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
They're little children.
tim pool
Adam.
Planning for the future is white supremacy.
adam crigler
That's what they tell us.
tim pool
They do.
adam crigler
That's some racistness right there.
tim pool
These people are nuts, man.
adam crigler
I know they are.
tim pool
So I'll tell you what.
That's why I think the future is going to be people like us will be the Republicans.
The Republicans will be rather moderate, but a big tent.
You'll have very conservative.
You'll have conservative Republicans and liberal Republicans.
People like Jeff Van Drew, for instance, who switched.
And then you're going to have socialists on the other side.
Maybe there won't be a Democrats.
Maybe it'll be the Democratic Socialists of America and Republican Party.
adam crigler
Well, the Democrats, they should be disbanded because they're... Because they're racist.
They're racist.
lydia smith
That's right.
Racist history.
tim pool
Let's jump over to the Super Chats.
adam crigler
Sure, let's do it.
tim pool
And for those that aren't familiar, it is Friday, which means at 10, Adam's going to crack out the whiskey.
We're going to hang out for a little bit, play some tunes, some original music.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, I got a few requests.
I saw someone ask me for She's Jess, so I'll start with that one.
tim pool
But before that, we've got Super Chats, and as you know, if we get 15,000 more likes, 40k, Adam will put on a MAGA beanie.
adam crigler
That's true.
It was 30k, but then someone called me out on Twitter and said, you know what, I want a challenge.
I said, alright, 40k it is.
Let's up it!
tim pool
Well, it's because we've been hitting 30 pretty easily a lot now.
adam crigler
I know, it's true.
tim pool
So it's like, okay, maybe, like, it's gotta be something, you know, to try for, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But let's, uh, let's read these superchats.
Tassan says, Tim, Adam, and Lydia, love you guys, keep it up, never surrender.
I suggest looking at, uh, Crumb Ponder and Sanger in Texas.
Great area, open, large, cheap land plots.
I'm a combat-wounded Marine vet, and I can vouch for the area.
Come down, have a beer with me, I'll show you the area.
adam crigler
Well, that means you must have a purple heart.
And if you don't, then thanks for serving and being wounded for us.
tim pool
Word, man.
Yes!
I saw that.
I'm spinning it.
I got no problem wearing a mask.
I know a lot of people are like, I don't want to wear a mask.
I got a mask.
I got no problem.
adam crigler
I saw that. I'm spinning it.
tim pool
I got no problem wearing a mask.
I know a lot of people are like, I don't want to wear a mask.
I got a mask. I got no problem. Actually...
adam crigler
Someone made us masks.
tim pool
Somebody made us a mask, and it's got a little beanie on it.
So I'm kind of cool with, you know.
adam crigler
I'll be honest.
tim pool
Neko, you make creations.
adam crigler
I'm a little upset mine didn't have a beanie on it.
I'm part of the beanie crew.
tim pool
What did yours have on it?
adam crigler
Nothing.
tim pool
Nothing?
adam crigler
But it was dope.
It was purple, and it has these cool little swiggly things on it.
tim pool
I don't know what they are, but they're cool.
I got no problem wearing a mask.
But in reference to what the sheriffs are willing to enforce and not, If it's not a law, and if it's a violation of the Constitution, the police should not be telling you what you can or can't do.
This is America, man.
We have to accept, as a country that believes in freedom, that we will have security problems.
It's a fact.
You gotta balance these things, and freedom is more important than security.
But the bigger problem arises when we can't, you know, it is assumed we won't be responsible for ourselves.
You know what I mean?
If you're gonna go out, alright, and you're concerned about getting sick, maybe you shouldn't go out.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe you should eat healthy.
tim pool
Don't tell what other people should do, because you, you know, we've got too many people in this country who are deferring to, I am worried, therefore you must.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Tim.
Being accountable for your actions is also whiteness.
tim pool
Yes, it is.
adam crigler
So, I mean, that's racist.
tim pool
There's no way out.
adam crigler
This is, this was a funny one here from Burner Fire.
I don't know what A means, but is that a different?
Anyway, he says, first, I think Adam and Tim are morons.
Lydia, still in question, but you are a laugh.
So here's our, our mutual transaction.
Now the meat of this, Adam must watch Undercover Brother 2.
I think Lydia and Tim would both think it's a great movie, but Adam must watch this movie or he ain't black.
$300.
And then he swears.
tim pool
I'm going to, I'm going to show, I'm going to show, I got to show this art from George Alexopolis.
Alexopolis.
lydia smith
Here, ready?
tim pool
I'm just gonna let it simmer for a quick second for the people who are watching.
Now I'm gonna explain what it is.
There are two men in black robes holding a black woman's arms as she screams, I'll never vote for you.
Then it's Joe Biden with his eyes are black and he's drooling a little bit, raising his hand and he says, then I'm afraid you ain't black.
He grabs the black woman's face and starts sucking the melanin from her skin.
And the last panel is her laying down and she's white now.
This is amazing art.
It's pretty juicy.
It's an amazing satirical or whatever mockery of Joe Biden and what he thinks.
I gotta hand it to this artist, George Alexopoulos, at G Prime 85 on Twitter.
It's got like, was it almost 15,600 retweets?
It's amazing.
Amazing, amazing comic.
I love it.
Joe Biden, what a nasty dude.
Alright, we got some more Super Chats.
Oh dude, totally.
says, there have been several incidents where Chinese spyware malware was discovered in
the firmware of Lenovo computers purchased by government and military. China has been
doing it for years. Google it. They're in deep. They even have entire buildings of hackers
unidentified
and trolls. Oh, dude, totally. Of course.
tim pool
Old Lion says, please comment on Judicial Watch lawsuit of versus Hillary.
I'm not familiar, but I will look into it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Gret says, I'm from Poland.
I know how fascism and communism making people insane.
We learned it in school.
USA and Western Europe didn't have that experience.
Why they need to experience our Eastern Europe suffering on their skin themselves?
So, there's a bunch of photos of like in Poland.
They have, they oppose fascism and communism both on their posters.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Whereas in the US, You have people openly flying communist flags because, you know, people here didn't experience that.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
We were involved in a war to end.
I mean, it's kind of crazy to me.
The Cold War was, like, devastating, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, but it's funny.
These people on the left think they're oppressed.
They think they know what oppression is.
tim pool
They're the most privileged people on the planet.
I tweeted, I was reading something and it made me think and I decided to tweet and I knew the tweet would do well.
I tweeted communism is a mental illness.
Just the idea of communism.
adam crigler
I saw that.
tim pool
It got a ton of retweets.
It's probably at like 17 or something thousand but what I mean to say by this is The idea is fractured and makes no sense.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
There's no basis in reality to what this is.
And the idea in and of itself, like literally, it would be like if someone came to you and told you they wanted to build a gigantic mirror ring around the moon to reflect, you know, moon energy to the earth.
You'd be like, that doesn't, that's not English.
What is moon energy?
What are you talking about?
That's what communism is.
adam crigler
It's sun energy.
tim pool
They're like, nothing is scarce.
Everybody can have everything.
You know, it's like, okay.
Yeah.
adam crigler
And no one has to do anything to have this.
Wait, wait, what?
tim pool
So you, you really, you know, I mean, obviously I'm being a bit antagonistic and saying it, but the idea I had is that the people who believe in this idea, it would be like someone walking around screeching about how the moon elves were coming to take over New York city.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm like, that's just, it's nonsense.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's literally, and, and, and you look at every- Childish nonsense.
It's, it's, if somebody was told, if I went to you and said, Adam, I'm going to give you this book by a bearded old man from, you know, a century ago.
adam crigler
Go on.
tim pool
Who's complaining, who's, who's saying we must, we must empower the moon elves to, to, you know, come to earth and, and shower us with their technology.
And you started going around preaching that and smashing windows because of it.
People would call you unwell.
adam crigler
Okay.
I can see that.
tim pool
Yeah, sure.
And so that's essentially what communism is.
The issue is that.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
But true communism has never actually been achieved, though, Tim.
tim pool
Well, I would say yes.
It's never been achieved.
That's correct.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, every time it's been tried, they realize... Millions of people have died.
Well, it's because there's too many different people and too many different ideas.
Why won't people just do as they're told and be slaves to the communist state?
Guess you gotta kill those who oppose you!
And that's what they've done every single time.
adam crigler
Why can't everyone else just be slaves so we can just live peacefully?
lydia smith
Yeah, come on people.
tim pool
Now.
adam crigler
Being in control of everyone.
That's what they want!
tim pool
Technocommunism is possible.
adam crigler
What is that, like, where they play EDM music?
tim pool
The Borg.
No, no, the Borg.
When they implant the neural link chips in your brain and then sync you to the communist mother computer.
adam crigler
Mothership.
tim pool
Yeah.
And now you have no free thought and you're just a robot.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
If we were all mindless drones, your weird utopian idea might work, but we're not.
We're individuals who have ideas, who have dreams and passions.
And there's some things we're willing to do and some things we aren't.
And you have no right to tell people what they can or can't do.
So their dream is just nonsensical.
adam crigler
Bam.
tim pool
There will never be an instance, as of today, without some massive technological overhaul that mind-controls people, there will never be communism.
There just won't be.
adam crigler
Never.
tim pool
There are communes, and they kick people out.
adam crigler
Yeah, if you want to be in a commune, you can go into a commune!
tim pool
They exist!
adam crigler
Even Bernie Sanders got kicked out of a commune because he just was trying to get them all to talk about socialism.
tim pool
The main issue is that small communes... Okay, fine.
I'll concede.
That makes sense.
You get a couple hippies on a farm sharing their watermelons, you're fine.
You scale it up to mass production and it makes literally no sense.
Nope, not at all.
And that's why these countries all just collapse.
adam crigler
We have this incredible society right now because of capitalism.
All this stuff, all this technology was because people were trying to one-up each other.
And that's in the capitalistic system that we live in.
lydia smith
That's what humans like to do.
Humans love to one-up each other.
adam crigler
I want to beat you.
I want to be better than you.
I want to create the better computer.
I want to go to space before you do.
I want to get over to Mars before anyone else does so I can stake my flag and be like, I did this first.
tim pool
And communism essentially eschews competition.
It's considered a cooperative market system.
adam crigler
You look at Guinness World Records, right?
It used to be awesome.
It used to be like really legitimate things.
Now it's like most pennies shoved up my butt.
Stuff that no one cares about.
tim pool
This is a good thing.
It shows that people are so desperate to be good at something.
adam crigler
It's true.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Most nickels... on Family Guy, Peter ate the most nickels.
He went blind.
adam crigler
Most copper poison from... in a certain cavity.
tim pool
Let's read some more of these here.
Franklin Toll says, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women should... I'm not reading that.
Listen here, fat.
Will one of you play Words in a Book tonight?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
If you had other plans, I understand.
I can ask though.
Spin it.
adam crigler
So wait.
tim pool
Maybe.
adam crigler
Someone yesterday actually requested Will of the People.
So that's Words in the Book also.
I'll play Words in the Book.
I love that song.
tim pool
I'll play them both.
adam crigler
You can play them both.
Or you can play them both.
That's true.
tim pool
Man, I gotta get to writing new music.
I'm not a professional musician.
You know what we did?
We got special order Portillo's hot dogs.
Thanks for all the hard work.
You know what we did?
We got special order Portillo's hot dogs.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
You know why?
tim pool
Well, it is, but I was talking to somebody about the Obama email about hot dogs.
adam crigler
Obama thing.
tim pool
And I was like, dude, listen, they're like, was it true?
unidentified
Was it true?
adam crigler
What's going on?
tim pool
It was an email from a third party talking about a party Obama had where he overnighted hot dogs and pizza.
And somehow that became a conspiracy theory when the actual story apparently was that Obama had a Super Bowl party and spent something like $65,000 on the whole party.
Which included Chicago's style hot dogs and pizzas.
Something like that.
Maybe it's not true.
Sure, maybe Obama is this weird lizard person.
I don't know.
adam crigler
That feeds off of Chicago hot dogs?
tim pool
I'm absolutely over the top.
I will absolutely, absolutely state, a former US president Bill Clinton was in the flight logs for a known trafficker and was ID'd by a victim as being on the trafficker's island with two young women.
And the news didn't cover it.
unidentified
Anyway, now that that's being said... But there's fires everywhere!
adam crigler
Oh my gosh!
Fires!
unidentified
Explosions!
adam crigler
Everybody look!
unidentified
Look at the explosions!
adam crigler
Look, look, look!
Yeah, Bill Clinton was a pedo.
tim pool
Allegedly.
adam crigler
Oh, excuse me.
Allegedly.
tim pool
Well, he's been ID'd, so I think, in your opinion, if you think that qualifies, then, you know, that's your opinion.
adam crigler
That's true, that's my opinion.
tim pool
But I'll just, you know, I point out the fact, because I'm gonna say, I was arguing with somebody about this, how they were adamant that Obama was in on this grand conspiracy, I'm like, fine, fine, fine, maybe, believe what you want, but I'm telling you, man, if you've never had a Chicago-style hot dog, You don't understand.
Where I lived in Chicago, there were five hot dog shops within a couple square miles.
And so I started talking to my friend about this, and I'm thinking to myself, dude, I haven't had a Chicago hot dog in like a decade.
adam crigler
It's been a long time for me.
No joke.
tim pool
So you can order from a famous Chicago fast food hot dog and ribs place called Portillo's.
And so I got some overnighted, man.
And it's this big party pack of hot dogs.
It's so insane.
But they're amazing.
Man, you gotta do it right.
You put a pickle, you get relish, you get tomatoes, you get sport peppers, a little celery, salt, mustard.
Bam.
Chicago style.
On a poppy seed bun.
adam crigler
It was so good.
I went out and got some Beyond sausages and I fried those up.
So good.
Oh man, they're so good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I bring it up only because someone said to go buy tacos, and I was like, wait, wait, wait.
You gotta understand, man.
We also got, it's something called the famous Maxwell Street Style, which is grilled onions and mustard.
Man, you gotta understand.
Chicago, you know what I'm saying?
adam crigler
Wrigleyville Dogs.
That's the name of the place across the street from the metro.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
I just looked it up.
And I was like, Oh, I went and saw this Sage Francis atmosphere, awesome hip hop night at the Metro across the street with Wrigley Wrigley's Ville dogs.
tim pool
I never, I never realized this about Chicago, about the uniqueness of a lot of the food choices, but hot dog stands everywhere in Chicago.
And it's the famous Vienna beef, unique Chicago style.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
And I never thought about it, but I used to eat that stuff all the time, and then once I left Chicago, I just never saw it again.
adam crigler
That's true.
Yeah, everyone talks about deep dish.
Nobody in Chicago eats deep dish pizza.
Yeah, no, nothing does.
That's not a thing.
We're from Chicago.
We can tell you deep dish is for you, the tourists.
Yeah, yeah, go eat the deep dish so we don't have to wait longer in our lines for the hot dogs.
tim pool
No, no, but the Chicago-style pizza is a moderately thick crust with a thick layer of cheese, and it's cut in squares.
adam crigler
I don't agree.
I don't agree.
The square thing, the square cut is absolutely it.
But I like the thin crust.
A lot of my Chicago fans, friends... I say moderately thick.
No, no, no.
I'm talking straight thin crust, baby.
tim pool
The super tiny, thin, crisp?
adam crigler
Really?
So good, yeah.
It depends on where you went for the... I mean, some of the best pizza places, though, they're one-offs, you know?
tim pool
It's crazy, I'll tell you what.
You go to New York when you get a pizza, and you know how it's like flat, and at the end you have that round crust?
Chicago pizza doesn't do that.
adam crigler
There's no crust.
It goes straight to the end.
Well, it's a little crispy, though.
tim pool
It's a little dry, but it goes straight down.
adam crigler
Pizza's so good.
tim pool
I try explaining this to people, I'm like, dude, Chicago pizza's not deep dish, it's totally different.
The food in Chicago is a different universe, man.
adam crigler
When Tim and I first lived together in Miami is when we first when we were friends for a long time you lived near me but then I moved down because we were going to do this show years years ago.
Yep.
I made a new type of pizza every day I think for like six months.
Yep.
I'm serious.
lydia smith
That's impressive.
adam crigler
I tried Very hard to switch the toppings, the type of cheese I use, the, you know, barbecue sauce, marinara sauce... The fruit pizza with jelly?
I tried everything.
It was crazy.
Those were good times.
You know, we should have documented them.
tim pool
Well, that's the plan for the new expansion we're going to be doing.
We got a bunch more we should definitely read.
adam crigler
Pizza, you know?
Come on.
tim pool
Have Tome says, alert PDX residents in the Laurelhurst Park area.
They will be starting at 8 p.m.
and moving at 9 p.m.
tonight.
This is a heavy residential neighborhood.
That's right.
Antifa announced they're going to be organizing in another residential neighborhood.
adam crigler
So they're doing it on purpose.
Antifa gangs?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
So they're gangs.
So they should be treated as such.
I truly believe that.
tim pool
It's getting crazy, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Edud says, I have been working on sharing info and converting co-workers away from the far left and CNN's lies by using your content from Timcast IRL, Timcast, along with Larry Alder and Candace Owens.
unidentified
Very cool.
tim pool
Eight red-pilled and more to come.
adam crigler
Yes!
I'm spinning the UFO for you.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
You deserve this right now.
tim pool
My thing is kind of just, you know, I guess you call it Red Pill, you call it whatever you want, get them away from the far-left, white supremacy, weird, intersectional stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you can believe... Yeah, just be normal.
But, I mean, even if you believe in universal healthcare, even if you believe in the Green New Deal and stuff, you don't got to be this weird racist that these people are.
adam crigler
Yeah, and even, like, trans rights and gay rights and, like, wanting green energy.
tim pool
Get them away from authoritarianism.
adam crigler
Yes, exactly.
That's what it is.
Exactly.
tim pool
Give them Gadsden flag stickers.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
Someone actually sent us these.
lydia smith
They're so cool.
adam crigler
These are dope.
If you can... There we go.
Check that out.
Don't tread on me stickers.
Yes!
Fantastic.
I love them.
lydia smith
They're awesome.
tim pool
Edward McDermott says, the soldier above all others opposes war.
For it is he who bears its scars, both physical and mental.
General Patton.
Was a mural on the wall of our bay in Basic.
Never forgot it.
Never will.
And experienced the truth of it.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Jamie J says, two campaign promises that would increase Trump's vote by
10 to 20%.
You can't get fired for things you say in your private life.
Make student loans subject to bankruptcy and defund all courses with high
bankruptcy rate.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, that's, that's an interesting idea.
I think, I think for me, the thing, uh, when it comes to student loan
forgiveness and stuff is that we just tell people interest rates will be gone.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And we got to end the predatory lending.
They're creating, like, seriously, the student loan system sets you up for indentured servitude.
Then you go into a school where they preach all this communism to you, you get out and you're like, Makes sense to me.
The only way out.
No, no, no.
We don't want that.
We got to end the college problem.
adam crigler
He's on to something.
tim pool
I mean, I'm not going to pretend.
adam crigler
Honestly, we should do a full subject breakdown of that, man.
tim pool
Of college being trash?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Well, and the predatory lending that they get trapped in.
You know, it's a two-fold system.
It's messed up.
tim pool
Interesting.
I think somebody superchatted, Alberta Freethinker, the Donald.win was down and is now back up, but that's normal.
For those who are not familiar, it's the, you know, when Reddit was trying to shut down the Donald, they created their own space.
They get DDOS attacked all the time.
Hayden Hudson says Trump just announced 20 minutes ago that not only is he lowering cost of drugs, but he's also signing executive order to make insurance companies accept pre-existing conditions.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
Is that real?
Yeah, can you pull that up?
unidentified
I'm going to look it up.
tim pool
Wow.
adam crigler
Yo, he is, he is ensuring his landslide victory.
The big pharma FU.
tim pool
He's going, he waited.
adam crigler
Wow.
That is huge.
tim pool
I think there's a reason he waited till the 11th hour.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then went to his private resort.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then said, oh, and by the way.
adam crigler
Uh huh.
lydia smith
Okay, so it says Trump is teasing an order requiring insurers to cover pre-existing conditions, which is great.
That's a great start.
I hope he does it.
tim pool
He's saying he's going to sign it.
adam crigler
He's gonna do it.
People love that.
Cheap medicine?
Legitimate.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I'm totally for it, man.
You can't discriminate against me because of something that I have already.
tim pool
You know what's interesting about Trump?
adam crigler
It's amazing.
tim pool
I think the core issues that many of his supporters are interested in are not necessarily about universal healthcare or anything.
It's about, will you be for America?
Oh, he popped the whiskey.
adam crigler
Listen, it's 10 o'clock.
tim pool
Donald Trump could probably say a bunch of populist things that are even left economic and still have massive support from the Trump base.
Because the bigger question is, are you selling us out to Chinese interests?
Are you securing jobs for the American workers?
If Trump came out and said, I want to do a bunch of these things like pre-existing conditions mandate, then I don't think Trump supporters would abandon him.
I think they're going to be like, whatever, as long as you're maintaining jobs, the economy, helping the American worker.
And then the left is going to be put in an interesting position.
adam crigler
Orange man bad.
tim pool
Oh wait, are you going to oppose it?
Is someone going to sue him to shut him down?
adam crigler
No, they just don't talk about these things.
They don't want anyone to know that he's doing these good things, which he's done consistently through his whole presidency.
That's what I'm surprised and that's why I like him so much because I went back.
I looked at all the things that he's done that are good that I never heard about because they just never talked about it.
tim pool
And these other activists don't want to admit it?
adam crigler
It's crazy.
tim pool
There was a point where, you know, Trump was compromising on gun control stuff, and there were conservatives that were really angry about it.
But a lot of Trump supporters brought up, like, listen, Trump is trying to be loved by as many people as possible.
And if the left just recognized that, they could have gained a bunch of ground and had, you know, an advocate for many of their causes, many of their issues, not all of them, but they would have made serious wins.
The problem is the Democrats want power.
So they lead the progressive left down this, you know, path where it's hate Trump no matter what, no matter what he does, even if he might give you some things you want.
Well, if he signs this executive order, I'm going to be super, I'm stoked about that.
adam crigler
I'm stoked, man.
He's making moves.
tim pool
I think you, it's awesome.
I see a ton of Trump supporters talking about, we need some kind of, you know, basic universal coverage.
I, you know, I'm, I don't think most of them agree with it, but I've seen some because it's a populist position.
And you have a choice between the establishment crony of Biden or the populist in Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so there were a decent amount of Bernie Sanders supporters who switched for Trump.
adam crigler
I mean, even just his executive order making medicine cheaper, that's going to make almost, I mean, every single American, no matter where you are on the scale of class, rich, poor, it doesn't matter.
That's helping all Americans.
Period.
tim pool
A good economy, man.
adam crigler
I mean, even this pre-existing condition thing.
Every single American.
It's not hurting anyone.
It's literally helping everybody.
tim pool
Well, it's going to hurt the pharmaceutical companies.
adam crigler
Yeah, who cares about them?
They've got enough money.
The American public is like, we've been, for lack of better words, getting screwed by them.
tim pool
There are people who have jobs at pharmaceutical companies that are not bigwigs.
They're administrators, they're managers.
And when profits curtail, when revenues go down, people are going to start losing their jobs.
So I think we definitely have problems that need to be solved.
I don't like this idea of abolishing private health care.
That's insane.
Why go so extreme with it?
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Abolish the police.
It's the same thing.
tim pool
I know, they're nuts.
adam crigler
They're going to the full extreme.
tim pool
What's the craziest thing we can do?
And let's go do it.
adam crigler
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
Well, guys, if you get 9,500 more likes, and I'll put on that MAGA beanie.
adam crigler
Oh, I see the no beanie, no peace.
So listen, if you haven't heard, it's 40,000 likes now for the MAGA beanie.
30,000 is too easy.
Look, we got 30,000.
I need 40,000, y'all.
That's what we need.
Someone actually challenged me on Twitter, so you can blame them.
If you're on Twitter, you can go to my page.
I posted it last night sometime, because they were like, you know what?
Listen, Adam, 30,000 is too easy.
I want to challenge.
I'm like, all right.
Everyone blame this guy.
40,000 likes and the Maga Beanie goes on.
lydia smith
No, they got this.
unidentified
Easy.
adam crigler
That's the new the new jam.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
I think we I think we read a lot of these.
Yeah, we did.
We definitely did.
There's the one calling us morons.
I like that.
lydia smith
The best.
adam crigler
That is pretty good.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
But I appreciate the 300 bucks, though.
Call me a moron for 300 bucks any day.
tim pool
Daryl Smith gives a good super chat.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
Thank you, man.
adam crigler
Oh, thanks.
tim pool
Yeah, I did read a bunch of these.
Definitely did it.
Let's see.
Matt Volker says, Communism treats everyone as a cog in a machine, but no machine is made completely of cogs.
It's a really good point, actually.
And that's one of the problems, thinking everyone's going to be identical, and then getting mad when they're not.
adam crigler
There's no diversity in that group of people.
Who am I?
tim pool
Oh God, Joe Biden.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
What a moron.
adam crigler
What a moron.
tim pool
No reason.
And he also said that people can't tell the difference between Asian people.
adam crigler
And then did you see the Washington Post guy trying to be like, Biden never said that.
You could go watch it.
He never said it.
And then the next day, Biden's like, look, I'm sorry I said that.
unidentified
You're the fact checker.
adam crigler
It's like, what?
lydia smith
That guy was a fact checker for the Washington Post.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
It's because they're in a bubble where they only talk to each other.
adam crigler
Yep.
Well, he didn't even talk to me.
He listened to Biden speak and said, nope, he didn't say that.
tim pool
The party wanted you to deny what you were seeing with your eyes and hearing with your ears.
adam crigler
I know, it's crazy.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, it's 10.
We're gonna jam.
adam crigler
Oh, all right.
tim pool
Make sure, however, smash that like button because we are just about 7,000 likes away from Adam jamming with a MAGA beanie on.
If we can make it, I mean, maybe not.
Also make sure to follow me on Twitter and Instagram at TimCast.
And Parler.
And you can follow at AdamKrigler, Instagram, Twitter, and Parler as well.
And of course, at SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S.
But also, make sure you check out TimCast.net.
I'm sure most of you are familiar, it's my main channel.
I am very, very close to 1 million subscribers, so I'm just actively promoting it, like, let's break that.
I would really love to break a million subscribers before they ban me, so I can at least get the gold medal and say, I remember the good old days before I got banned.
So, TimCast.net if you want to subscribe to my main channel.
Those videos are not too dissimilar from this, but it's just me talking at you for 20 minutes, whereas this is, you know, we have a conversation.
But it is Friday night!
And for those that aren't familiar, Friday night around 10, the political talk slows down, and we just hang out and chill.
It's Friday night, we're gonna jam.
We're in this stupid pandemic lockdown for the most part, and Adam's gonna play some music.
I will also play some songs for you.
So that's what we're getting ready for right now, and I believe we have the jam cam ready to go?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Adam's gonna play a song, then I'll play a song, then we'll chill.
unidentified
My hair is annoying today.
adam crigler
Hey everybody, how you doing?
Someone actually requested this earlier with a super chat, and I'm going to play it.
This is called She's Just.
unidentified
It's just gone too far, she said, as she took another drink at the bar.
you And to tell you what the truth is, I just never knew when to stop.
I never knew when to stop.
She was sitting in the corner Trying to pick up her pride
They didn't disown her Oh, but she wished that they had tried.
Been gone three summers.
Made all the difference in the world.
Least ten years older in her mind.
But that's alright.
Moved to California.
Out to live that western dream.
But her eastern persona wouldn't ever, ever let her be.
She always end up missing home.
She always end up missing home.
Missing home So many before her she's just just another face in the
in the crowd. It's becoming clearer to her but she's not ready right now.
Bye.
Well, she's not ready to go and tensions grew bolder.
Impatience picked up steam.
Too many people told her, you have to stay and take what's in your reach.
I won't just stand here watching all my plans fall through.
Cause I've discovered it's all about the time I use.
Move to California.
Out to live that western dream But her eastern persona Wouldn't ever ever let her be
She always ended missing home She always ended missing home
Missing home So
It's just gone too far She said she took another drink at the bar.
To tell you what the truth is, I just never knew when to stop.
Thank you.
You gonna come play one?
Oh man, here we go!
tim pool
I can't stop drinking these nasty soda water things.
They mess me up.
unidentified
Yeah, you do.
Oh, man.
tim pool
The mic might be a little too close.
unidentified
How's it going there, internet friends?
you Hopefully this sounds good.
tim pool
What should I play?
unidentified
Well, someone requested Will of the People and... I should play songs.
With a tune.
A little bit.
Play some tunes.
Adam came in, right?
Strummed out this tune, yeah?
tim pool
And I said, that's a number one record.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
Aw, shut up.
Yeah, it's a little tight.
unidentified
I'll try to play music.
Play it.
I'll try to play music.
tim pool
Howl on the march in the morning He called his soldiers down
To take aim at the traitors To gun those rebels down
Now they face the consequences They held themselves above
This is the will of the people He said
I wish I could spare them, make them see the path.
Tempting as that sounds, a laugh to pass.
I know what's needed for the good of my people To save them
Out in the dark Without warning
He raised his fist above Let it cry to his people
let it cry to his people, to tear those statues down.
To tear those statues down Now they'll face the consequences
Now they'll face the consequences, they held themselves above.
They held themselves above This is the will of the people
This is the will of the people, he said.
unidentified
He said In the dark, without warning, he raised his fist above,
tim pool
I wish I could spare them, make them see the path, tempting as that sounds, a laugh to pass.
I know what's needed for the good of my people, to save them.
Now drop your arms and march for them, against the wall and bow your head.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
you Speak your last words, let them be said
Out on the march in the morning He called his comrades down
To take aim at the traitors To gun those fascists down
Now they'll face the consequences They held themselves above
This is the will of the people He said
unidentified
I wish I could find it, the way to restore peace.
Blessed were those days we held in vain.
I'd give it all for a chance at redemption.
As the cycle turns again.
tim pool
You've seen it before, now you'll see it begin.
You'll see the changes and the blood boiling.
you If you think it ends here, think again.
unidentified
Yeah, dude!
tim pool
That was good.
unidentified
Sweet.
adam crigler
Yeah, you rocked that.
tim pool
Alright, well I'll play one more in a second after this guy.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
You wanna play another one?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Fitsie!
adam crigler
Man, that was good, man.
This microphone is just, it's so good.
What up, everybody?
Thanks for hanging out on this lovely Friday night.
For those wondering, I'm drinking some Ardbeg Tenure.
I think it's the ultimate.
There's multiple Ardbegs, but I'm a big fan of the Peaty Scotch.
And also, if you didn't know, I'm drinking out of a 120-year-old shot glass from my own family line, Krigler and Krigler Whiskey.
Back in 1900, like 1890 to 1905, we were the number one whiskey company in America.
unidentified
Some Krigler history for ya.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, that was a rockin' song over there, my goodness.
I don't know what I'm gonna play.
unidentified
I'm gonna do... Wanna play a classic?
adam crigler
Someone requested... What song was it?
Uh, A Love Story's Remain.
And I'm gonna play that.
I don't know who... Someone asked for it, and I said I would play it.
I haven't played in a while.
So this is for whoever asked for it.
I don't remember your name, but here you go.
This is a love story, a love story's remains.
unidentified
Well hello miss, I'd love to kiss your lovely name.
The things I'd do to get you dancing in the rain.
I want our peace, oh say you want the same.
Our love story remains.
I know we'll go through some hard times.
The time will help us to find ourselves.
But there's a chance we're not like mine So this love story may end
I'm just being honest I'm just being honest with myself I'm gonna miss the way you kiss under the rain
All the times you saved me, but that love don't feel the same.
I wanted peace, so you wanted me to change.
Only connected when you're calling out my name.
I know we've been through some hard times.
That time has helped us to find ourselves.
Honesty is my policy, yeah.
We might be better with someone else.
I'm just being honest.
I'm just being honest with myself.
Well come and sit, let's take a trip down memory lane.
If I had to choose baby, I wouldn't change a thing.
Cause I found peace, oh look you found the same.
In the rubble of the remains.
Our love stories remain.
I found a peace of mind.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I'm actually being requested to play my two hit singles.
with yourself.
I'm going to play some tunes. I really want to finish the Green Eyes one, man. I'm going
to finish the Green Eyes one, man.
I'm going to finish the Green Eyes one, man.
tim pool
I love that one.
Yeah, we should, we should.
adam crigler
Dude, that's great, because then I can actually back you up on the top of it.
unidentified
Or are you going to play anything else?
It's not done.
adam crigler
Just rock it out.
Nah, okay, okay.
tim pool
Got a new song I'm excited about.
Got a couple of new songs.
unidentified
Can I even play this one?
Remember when we used to fight for peace?
Our heroes were only on TV screens.
tim pool
The market's made up of broken hopes and dreams to put me back into mediocrity.
Take in more, take in spite of this, and focus on the ways.
I guess you never change that day.
It's hard to believe that you mean nothing to me Cause you used to mean everything
unidentified
Remember when we used to fight for peace?
tim pool
But villains weren't only on TV screens.
My heart is made up of broken hopes and dreams.
I'll take my place in this story.
Taking more, taking spite of their And focus on the ways I really wish you'd change that day
It's hard to believe but you mean nothing to me Cause you used to be everything
There were words in a book about what we've been through
unidentified
And there are words in a script written for me and you.
tim pool
So take it all inside and pray it works.
Another aching in your heart starts to burn Taking more, taking spite of this
Focus on the ways I really hope you change someday It's hard to believe but I'm moving on with my dreams
Cause you were never there for me There are words in a book of words
About what we've been through And there are lines in a script
Written for me and you So take it all in stride
And pray it works Another aching in your heart
unidentified
Starts to burn And there are lines in a script
Written for me and you So take it all in stride
And pray it works Another aching in your heart
Starts to burn And pray it works
adam crigler
Another aching in your heart Yeah.
unidentified
Alright, I'll play one more.
I'll play one more.
One more tune.
tim pool
One more tune, yeah.
unidentified
One more tune.
adam crigler
I do love that song.
unidentified
That was one of my... Words in a book?
Yeah, that was one of the first songs Tim played where I was like, whoa, dude.
tim pool
Those two songs are like... You got some tunes.
Some of the favorites people usually request.
A bunch of other ones I think are great too though.
unidentified
This is called When Will She Learn.
Oh!
Oh yeah, yeah.
What does the moon mean to you?
Some questions are unmet for you What do you see when you dream?
Are you stuck dreaming of him?
Bye.
Which door would you open if you were allowed to?
Will he ever be satisfied without you?
Well, she's lost, she's lost before.
Now she'll never let her heart break anymore.
Well, shields up, defensive position.
Call her what you will.
I'ma call her a mission.
Well, good luck to the next guy who's gonna break down her walls.
Cause I know she would rather die than have her heart broken once and for all.
Well, she won't budge.
Oh, why?
She's got a grudge.
Cause she has played all the games.
And now she walks away.
She walks away.
Is this too soon for you?
Maybe he feels the same way as you.
Oh, but what if the connection is mutual?
Well, that's hard to believe, cause it's so unusual.
Yeah, well, you gave in to him, even though your friends told you not to.
And the game begins again, and now he's got you.
Yeah, well, she's lost, she's lost the war.
She'll never let her heart break anymore.
Oh well, maybe this time she has learned her lesson.
Oh man, maybe this time she's actually learned her lesson.
adam crigler
I don't think so.
unidentified
Good luck to the next guy who's gonna break down her walls.
Cause I know she would rather die than have her heart broken once and for all.
She won't budge, oh why?
She's got a grudge.
She has played all the games and now she walks away.
She walks away, yeah.
What does that moon mean to you?
Oh, when he smiles, is he smiling for you?
When will she learn?
When is this girl gonna learn?
Man, this girl ain't never gonna learn.
She's gonna learn!
She ain't never gonna learn.
When will she learn that tables can't quickly turn?
Always falling in too quick and always end up getting burned.
Always keep your shields in positions.
Oh man, come on girl!
Know him before you make that kind of decision.
Good luck to the next guy who's gonna break down her walls, cause I know she would rather die than have her heart broken once and for all.
Thank you, everybody.
adam crigler
Cheers.
unidentified
I'll play one mo.
Oh!
lydia smith
Oh, we're gonna get three out of ten.
adam crigler
Alright.
unidentified
I'm done, I'm done, I'm good.
adam crigler
Unless, are you gonna play Green Eyes?
Are you just going to wait until it's done?
tim pool
What's up?
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
I'd love to.
We could finish that one really easily.
unidentified
We should.
That song's great.
Thank you.
What?
tim pool
I was talking about Green Eyes.
I was talking about my song.
adam crigler
I thought you were complimenting.
I was praising myself.
unidentified
Excuse me, jeez.
adam crigler
Don't let me get in the way.
unidentified
I'm teasing the song but we're not ready yet.
tim pool
From the dark in the corner, I see the line before me coming clear.
unidentified
There's anger in their eyes and there is fear.
tim pool
The line begins to break, the rush in the middle.
unidentified
And now we see the lies in their disappearance. I don't know, I thought it was the song title.
But you could have gone to the chorus. It would have worked better.
tim pool
Green eyes, green eyes.
Green eyes, green eyes.
Well I'll never come back.
unidentified
That was a big tease for everyone.
tim pool
Never coming home, and I like the way it feels From strike to shattered bones
unidentified
Green eyes, green eyes So, we've got about 65% of that song done.
everyone some we're working on yeah And now I'm going to play something substantially less aggressive.
lydia smith
Good call.
unidentified
Did I play that last week?
Uh, yes.
I think you did.
Now I'll play the other one.
Air to make art.
tim pool
You'd hope enough and you'd hope to leave your mark.
Or take the road.
unidentified
I'm gonna...
tim pool
The dirt shows where the trees cannot grow Would you sell?
Would you sell it all to save yourself?
Lies, oh lies, don't concern you.
To form a better person inside.
It's like we always knew just where to rest our hearts.
unidentified
Inside the hearts of a friend All for those martyrs
tim pool
Hope enough that their cause can move farther Or take the road
you The water shows where the trees cannot grow
unidentified
Would you sell?
tim pool
Would you sell it all to save yourself?
Lies, oh, lies don't become you to form a better person inside.
It's like we always knew just where to rest our hearts inside the hearts of a friend who never thought Yeah!
And that's it for me!
unidentified
Before I lose my voice.
tim pool
And so you sold, you sold me to save yourself.
I'd be stoked to play.
unidentified
That's good.
adam crigler
Yeah, we definitely gotta finish.
Everyone was like, whoa, they're singing together!
It's like, yes, yes.
Let's do that.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
This is fun.
I love Friday nights.
Although, I did empty my shot glass.
I should probably do something about that.
unidentified
What happened to this?
tim pool
I'm not getting any ideas.
adam crigler
You know what?
While you're doing that... Oh, wow.
tim pool
How's it going?
I'm back.
I'm not playing music anymore.
What are you doing?
You gonna GM?
adam crigler
You playing?
Oh, should I play one more?
tim pool
I don't know, what were you doing?
adam crigler
I was just grabbing my whiskey, but I could play another one.
tim pool
I mean, why not, huh?
unidentified
Should I play another one?
tim pool
Play a classic.
Play either Melancholy Hellhound or Walking With You.
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
Which one?
adam crigler
Well, I know someone asked for Melancholy.
I guess I'll play that.
tim pool
Do it.
unidentified
Well I don't want your money.
I just want some wine.
Yeah, give me some of your honey.
I promise I'll take my time.
Oh, welcome to the heartache.
It always feels the same.
Well, I find myself growing senseless.
Tears of pain.
Yeah, you can scratch and crawl to figure it out.
But in the end, there's just me.
Well, I don't want your pity.
And I don't want no lies.
Yeah, life gets shitty.
Oh, and then you die.
Welcome to the hearty.
Try not to lose your way.
Yeah, it's like trudging through the muddy water.
Oh, without faith.
Yeah, you can scratch and crawl or figure it out, but in the end, that's just me.
Oh, I still get that feeling, yeah, of just pencil eyes.
Oh.
The only difference being It's just not worth my time Yeah, cause I welcome all the heartache It brings tears to my eyes Yeah, those tears remind me Remind me I'm alive I just came over for my whiskey.
I'm your red owl, but in the end it's just me.
adam crigler
Alright, I just came over for my whiskey.
tim pool
We got an extra one out of you.
Alright, well it's getting late.
I gotta be up early in the morning because I have another job where I, you know, read the news and talk about, you know, news and stuff like that, so... That's what I'll be doing first thing in the morning.
That song is, uh, yeah, Green Eyes.
It's something that I've had, like, partially written for quite some time.
And it's basically about LARPing.
It's like these far lefties who are LARPing.
adam crigler
Is that what it's about?
tim pool
Kind of.
adam crigler
I don't even know.
I just sing what you're singing over you.
tim pool
It's not literally about them.
It's about a group of people who are engaging in LARP combat, fighting in the street.
But it's not specifically about Antifa, it's just that the idea is a group of people who don't realize they're not playing a game.
adam crigler
Ah, okay, I see.
tim pool
Yeah, and so they're just angry people who think it's fun.
It's kind of like, you know, inspired by Antifa and the far-left's antics, basically.
adam crigler
Cheers, everyone who's out there having a drink right now with me.
tim pool
But I actually wrote this a while ago about other similar issues where people didn't realize the gravity of what they were doing.
So.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
That's where it's going.
It's mostly written, and surprisingly it's just two chords.
It's, you know, what is it?
E and F?
That's it.
adam crigler
Easy.
tim pool
Easy song.
adam crigler
Yep, easy peasy.
unidentified
But we're gonna work on it.
tim pool
We're gonna get it done.
And we are...
Man, we are desperately trying to expand this operation here because I'm really excited about hiring fact-checkers for this new thing.
I tweeted about it like a year ago, and I remember somebody tweeted, Tim will never do this, and I was like, oh yeah.
But these things take time.
adam crigler
You just inspired me.
That's what Michael Jordan would need.
Anytime anyone talked trash to him, he's like, I'm going to destroy you now.
tim pool
But for me, it's like, I said I'm doing it, I have a great idea, I'm gonna do it.
The idea is basically to score other news agencies based on a sampling of their 100 most recent articles, and then check for ethics violations with fact checkers.
Then you could have like a score of like, that Daily Beast article we went through earlier?
adam crigler
Yeah, embarrassing.
tim pool
Yeah, like totally misframed.
adam crigler
Ridiculous.
tim pool
Biased.
That would get like a zero.
Like just, oof.
You know, the Daily Beast would probably be really bad in terms of credibility.
The New York Times would surprisingly do well, Still, I'd imagine- They're hit or miss now.
I think the New York Times would be like, you know, 60 out of 100 articles that would be like, okay.
adam crigler
Okay, that's not bad.
Anything under 90 is bad, I think.
tim pool
It's not even really about political bias for the most part, it's about, like, dude, if you write an article saying she got arrested for buying paint, that's not true.
adam crigler
That's not true at all.
tim pool
Yeah, she's clearly arrested.
adam crigler
That's not why she was arrested.
tim pool
But you can be biased and write an article where it's like, this goes over the line, gang enforcement is too much, and that's fine, as long as you label it op-ed, I suppose.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly, but they don't.
It's actual journalism now.
tim pool
I don't know, man, I think 40k likes is tough.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Yeah.
I guess it's the prize though.
You know, you got to reach that number.
adam crigler
It's a prize.
They got to earn it.
tim pool
People got to share the, you know, no beanie, no peace.
adam crigler
But I mean, if it's too easy, it's too easy for you.
I got it right here.
I was, I was ready for it.
It was, it was ready for you guys.
lydia smith
Oh man.
adam crigler
We actually got to get 40 K likes.
tim pool
And we've actually gotten 40 before, so when... Last night there was like 40 and some, I mean... Well, I mean, even a long time ago, when you said 30, we, like, we were really close to it, and you were like, hey, just get us to 30, I'll put it on, and then it became a thing, but it was actually like, yeah, we get 30,000, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, they're close, 37.
tim pool
We got rad viewers.
adam crigler
Oh wow, we're running way over though.
tim pool
Oh, we're way over.
It's about time to wrap things up.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So if you haven't already, you guys know where to follow us.
You guys, the diehard fans who stay and hang out to listen to us jam and play music.
Subscribe if you haven't.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at TimCast, at AdamKrigler in the same places, and of course on Twitter and Parler you can follow at SourPatchLids.
L-Y-D-S.
And if you haven't already, I'm assuming you did, go to TimCast.net and subscribe to my main channel.
Push me over that million subscriber mark so I get that gold medal.
unidentified
Push it.
Push it.
lydia smith
Push him over.
tim pool
That's my only, the only thing that, my only validation.
I don't care about anything else.
I just, if I have that gold medal, that's the only, I'm kidding.
I would appreciate it, though.
adam crigler
It'd be great.
And then TimCast IRL is next.
lydia smith
That's next, that's right.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, man.
For those that are listening, we got like 140,000 subs in the past 30 days.
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
It's crazy.
Seriously crazy.
adam crigler
I love you guys.
lydia smith
Thank you guys for sharing.
tim pool
This channel is, in like three months, gonna break a million subs.
unidentified
Yeah, that's nuts.
adam crigler
And that's all because of you guys sharing us, spreading the good TimCast IRL gospel.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, like, me and Adam just sit here talking about stuff, you know?
adam crigler
You know, we're good at it.
tim pool
But it's like, we'll sit here and talk.
You guys, you can just tell people you like hearing us talking, you know, and it works out.
So we're gonna keep doing our thing.
adam crigler
And jamming on Friday nights.
tim pool
Absolutely, that's fun.
Also, that's true.
If you really do think we do a good job though, you know, the sharing really does help because if I had the marketing budget of CNN, yeah, we'd have, you know, a million subs overnight.
adam crigler
Probably, yeah.
tim pool
Like CNN, they just dump money into the stuff.
We don't.
And so, but we can win because You know, the people who watch CNN are passively not paying attention.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
The people who come on here watch us and even other channels.
adam crigler
Yeah, and they engage us too, which is awesome.
tim pool
Like Styx or Crowder.
You guys are looking for the information.
You're looking for the conversations, which means we got something special that the CNN can never get.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They've got mindless hotel, you know, temporary stays and airport viewers.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
We got core diehards that will even hang out and listen to us sing.
adam crigler
Not even about politics.
It's reassuring knowing that a lot of people Want these kind of conversations, you know, because the environment of the the world right now can be a little oppressive sometimes if you let it get to you and You know, I really try there was a few moments over the past couple months where I've been a little defeated, you know And I'm like I got to remember to stay who I am and really, you know, I'm an optimist You know, I always want to be on the lighter side of things.
tim pool
So You know what I see when I see, you know, 40,000 likes or whatever?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
We are not alone.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
The bigger tent is the people who are rational, who are having conversations, who are open to inquiry.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's a big tent.
That doesn't mean it has the most people in it.
It means it's the most welcoming and the most honest and good faith.
And that's crazy that, you know, like, we'll sit here and you'll basically talk about what you like about Trump, and I'm just like, man, I don't like him, but I gotta vote for him, right?
adam crigler
I'm gonna spin the UFO right now.
Spin it.
For everybody out there right now, I'm spinning for you.
tim pool
Alright, alright, but enough, uh, enough, you know.
We gotta go.
We gotta go.
It's 1043.
It's past my bedtime.
I gotta, I gotta do work.
So anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We'll be back Monday.
at 8 p.m.
live as per usual, but tomorrow we will have clips up throughout the show, so if you didn't catch the whole show and you want to see other segments that we did today, we're gonna have them all, you know, labeled.
Lydia does the great production work where she labels and thumbnails and dolls out great stuff, so that'll be up tomorrow.
But thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you Monday at 8 p.m.
Adios.
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