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July 22, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Trump Announces National SURGE Of Federal Law Enforcement, Operation Legend Is Go
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Transcribed by https://otter.ai Apparently this was announced quite some time ago.
They were deploying federal officers into Kansas City.
They're saying, I guess it's not related to what's going on in Portland, but they're going to be sending a surge of federal law enforcement into a variety of cities, starting with Chicago.
Yep.
unidentified
200.
adam crigler
200 federal agents.
unidentified
200.
tim pool
That's not even that much, to be honest.
adam crigler
Not really.
It doesn't sound like a lot.
tim pool
And of course, the mayor's freaking out, but as most of you know, Adam and I are from Chicago, and I think we both have the opinion of good.
adam crigler
Yeah, absolutely.
Seriously, dude.
Yeah, we both know Chicago, and they need... I mean, we pay attention to what's going on pretty much everywhere, but... We've both passively talked about, that one time we got shot at.
tim pool
Like, not together!
Like, Adam got shot at one time, I got shot at one time.
adam crigler
Also in the Chicagoland area.
tim pool
So, I'm kind of like, okay, it's about time, I guess.
Why should I be mad about this?
But apparently this is, you know, part of a larger plan because of the dramatic escalation in gun violence and crime.
And I don't know what the criticism is really about.
They're acting like federal law enforcement is a new thing.
They're like, I guess the anti-Trump crowd will always oppose Trump no matter what he does.
And they're like, he's sending in secret police.
It's the FBI, dude.
What do you mean?
Like, we have TV shows about this.
adam crigler
And this whole secret police thing is ridiculous.
Because, I mean, they did a press conference yesterday about how They showed the actual pictures of the people.
They had their vests.
They're like, police.
You know, Homeland Security.
Badge number.
It's like all of them had, they weren't, you know, faceless people taking anyone.
It's like they were all labeled.
And not to mention that, those same federal officers were getting doxxed.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
So it's like, of course they didn't want to put their actual name on their badge.
Like, I don't blame them at all.
unidentified
The left is arguing, where are all the libertarians and second amendment activists to like fight back against the oppressive government?
See, they don't really care.
tim pool
And it's like, wait, wait, hold on.
You showed up to a federal courthouse.
You threw explosives at it.
The libertarian two-way people are sitting back at home watching, you know, playing video games and like eating pizza or something.
When the secret police actually show up, I'm sure they'll be concerned about it, but as long as you are seeking out conflict, why would anyone be like, yes, I will help you?
No, they're gonna be like, stop doing that.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's almost like the Antifa people in Portland are putting their hand on the fire, and when they get burned, they complain the fire's attacking them, and you're like, but the fire is there, and you are here, and if you don't do that, you won't get burned.
They're like, well, I have a right to touch the top of the stove.
You do, and you will get burned.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
You can't, but they're complaining about it now.
adam crigler
And then when the camera goes on, well, I was just standing here, and they turned the flames up.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
And then the flames singed me.
No, then it's like- It's their fault.
tim pool
They're standing, they're taking a picture of their hand burned like, the stove just burned me out of, no, it's like, whoa, hold on, hold on.
No.
Moms against stovetop burnings.
And then they're graffitiing up the house and they're like smashing the stove.
So anyway, Portland is a whole other thing.
It has nothing to do with this apparently.
Trump, I guess, announced that Operation Legend isn't Portland.
Portland is literally just law enforcement.
That's packed.
adam crigler
Yeah, it has nothing to do with Portland.
That's what he made it made it clear.
tim pool
So we're gonna we're gonna dig into this, but we got we got some other stories, man.
We got some crazy stuff.
Apparently the McCloskeys, you know them, you love them.
They're the armed couple that was defending their property in St.
Louis.
Apparently, I don't know which unit or whatever was tampering with the evidence.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
The guns were inoperable and they reassembled them to make it seem like they were actually threatening legit deadly force when they weren't.
adam crigler
Yeah, they reassembled it and then test fired it and said, see, it is an operable gun.
tim pool
It's worse than that.
adam crigler
You're right, it is.
tim pool
When the gun was brought in for evidence, they said, this gun doesn't work.
And they said, well, strip it and reassemble it.
And then they did and said, now it works.
And they acknowledged in the documents that it was inoperable because of a backwards firing pin and spring.
Like, perhaps intentionally.
So that it couldn't, you know, be used because the guy didn't actually want to hurt anybody.
But they said apparently in their filings that it was ready and capable of lethal force, which was a lie.
Welcome to the morality policing world where they will tamper with evidence to lock you up.
You know, the AG of Missouri is basically saying, I'm gonna get these charges dismissed.
The governor is saying, I'm gonna pardon it.
Yeah, great, it's all well and good for now.
But eventually, these lunatic morality police and intersectionalists will be in higher positions of government, and then they won't pardon it, and they will tamper with evidence, and they will lock you in the gulag.
Welcome to this new horrifying reality.
And we'll talk about some cancel culture stuff, because we got something interesting.
Cato says 62% of people, a new poll, are scared of sharing their political opinions.
adam crigler
Well, that's not really surprising at all, is it?
tim pool
Sounds like a silent majority.
adam crigler
It's not really surprising, that's all I'm going to say.
tim pool
But it also, you know, we don't know what the breakdown is of left versus right, but part of me thinks, this is just me, the left is not afraid to talk about their opinions.
adam crigler
Yeah, but this is what I keep saying.
We keep talking about the left and the right.
Those people don't really even matter.
It's the people in the middle.
Most of the people are sitting there like, what is going on between these two?
tim pool
But the question is, who are they going to vote for?
adam crigler
I think.
tim pool
Here's the point.
If you came out and said you were supporting Biden, is anyone going to throw a brick through your window?
adam crigler
Probably not.
tim pool
If you said you were supporting Trump?
adam crigler
Well, no one's thrown a brick through my window yet.
tim pool
But I mean, if you posted on Facebook, Go Biden, do you think you would have been bombarded?
adam crigler
Not at all.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
But you say, Go Trump, and they're screeching and banging on walls and unfriending you and stuff like that.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
So if 62% of people have political opinions they're scared to share, I would reason these people probably have opinions that favor Trump.
Because who is scared to say, go Biden?
adam crigler
Nobody.
tim pool
Yeah, nobody.
Oh, there was something really funny we did point out before, like, who's ever seen a Biden sign?
adam crigler
I have yet to.
Oh wait, no, I did see that one.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
It was spray painted.
tim pool
It was like a piece of corrugated steel that someone took red spray paint and wrote Biden 2020 on it on the side of some like... It was wonderful.
adam crigler
Yeah, it was amazing.
Like a mailbox or something.
It was so bad.
tim pool
I have not seen a Biden sticker.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
I have not seen a Biden sign.
I do not believe anyone cares.
Apparently people don't even watch his posts.
The dude, he's not campaigning.
adam crigler
Well, he's still the presumptive nominee, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Right.
Because the DNC didn't officially end yet.
tim pool
End of August.
adam crigler
So they could technically just be like, well, you know, now, like two days before we, we're going to announce finally, actually, we're not going to run Biden.
We're going to switch and run to someone else.
tim pool
You know, if something does happen, I hope it's really cool, like, you know, Biden is inside giving a speech, and then, like, some crazy dude jumps on the rafters and yells, six emperor tyrannists, but then, like, takes aim at, like, a Ugandan prime minister who was speaking with Biden, and Biden jumps in the way, and everyone's like, no, Biden!
He's, like, sacrificed himself to save the Ugandan prime minister!
I don't know if Uganda has a prime minister, I have no idea.
But like, you know, at least it's 2020, man.
It's 2020.
You know, like I'm saying, like, I would put money on something like that happening.
unidentified
Just in true 2020 fashion.
tim pool
Biden, like some some assassin jumps out and then Biden, like, grabs his wrist, snaps it and punches him in the face.
adam crigler
Not on my watch.
tim pool
But then he has a heart attack and dies.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
OK, that was mean.
We wish Joe Biden the best.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
We got him here with us.
We always do.
lydia smith
He's with us in spirit.
unidentified
You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
lydia smith
He's not with us this week.
tim pool
Not me.
So let's talk about Operation Legend, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, let's do it.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
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unidentified
Smash it.
tim pool
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lydia smith
You know, the things.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, the things.
adam crigler
Really share because I feel a lot of people are coming to me saying, hey, you know, I was talking to my friend and we started arguing with another person and because of your show we were able to be knowledgeable about what this person was misinformed about and help them talk about it.
Even if they didn't change their mind, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, but I want everyone to at least understand what's going on, and we try to have critical thinking and talk about what's happening.
tim pool
Here's the important thing.
You come to this show, I'm not gonna pretend like you're gonna get the truth, the light, you know?
Like, everything you hear is perfect, because we get things wrong.
We're normal people.
But I think what you get here is that it's like moderate people talking about their political opinions about what's going on right now, the same as literally anyone else.
And a lot of former liberals, liberals and moderates are scared to speak up.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So I think one reason why the show, like the show has been growing rapidly is because there's a lot of people who are scared to speak up and are not being represented.
And so, you know, many people who aren't maybe overtly conservative, definitely not far left.
And so, you know, this is what you get.
lydia smith
I think I think this is our voice is kind of important because the process of just talking about these ideas is so important.
I think the free free market of ideas and actually discussing these ideas that apparently nobody really talks about is like pivotal.
I think that really kind of helps people because they don't hear a lot of that conversation.
adam crigler
Yeah we're going to get into that later actually.
That's that's I don't really know about much about that article that you pulled up but it's I'm interested to find out about it.
tim pool
Yeah, so we bring this up not because we're just trying to brag about how awesome we are, but literally because we have this poll from the Cato Institute we're going to get into later about how people are scared to speak up.
62%.
And I imagine a lot of those people are probably in the middle of the road thinking the far left has gone insane.
But I guess, you know, I fall outside of that.
That's another important point.
Like, I'm not scared to speak about my opinions, even though I think the far left has gone insane.
But a lot of people probably do.
But let's talk first about Donald Trump's Surge!
The Daily Mail says Trump orders immediate surge of hundreds of feds into Chicago, calling it a violence-scarred disaster, then threatens to order them into other Democratic-controlled cities, including Detroit and Philadelphia, over mayor's objections.
Well, we do have this other story about a dozen-plus mayors saying no and demanding a withdrawal of federal forces.
But at least in the context of this story, that's basically it.
So, what are they doing?
They're doing FBI, DEA, and ATF agents, and they're going to be taking on gun crime.
Now, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot tweeted she won't let federal troops terrorize the city, but she says she spoke to a U.S.
attorney who told her FBI, DEA, and ATF would come to assist the city's anti-crime fight, which she supports.
adam crigler
All right, hey, there you go.
tim pool
Oh, so she... Public versus private.
adam crigler
Right, yeah, there it is.
tim pool
Donald Trump is the worst!
You guys are coming to help, that's really great, thank you so much.
Oh, they're terrible, these people are... I'm really excited for your cooperation.
Gotta save face, man.
unidentified
Nailed it.
adam crigler
You need more bug-eyed, but... More bug-eyed.
lydia smith
A lot more.
adam crigler
Fairly on point.
tim pool
She went and got a haircut when the lockdown happened.
lydia smith
Man, her hair looks so awful.
tim pool
And everybody was like, how come you get to have a haircut?
She goes, because I'm on TV.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
She was like, because I have to go on TV, I need a haircut.
It's like other people have to go on TV too and they need haircuts.
adam crigler
I think she should sleep too.
tim pool
You know, this, this caused a huge, huge problem for the COVID protesters because no, the left didn't understand the joke.
When a bunch of these politicians were like, we're locking down, but we're going to go get haircuts.
A bunch of protesters started making signs saying, I need a haircut as a joke.
And then the left doesn't understand sarcasm or irony.
unidentified
And they literally thought people were like, I need a haircut!
adam crigler
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
Listen, you can't make jokes on Twitter.
You can't do it.
Because the left doesn't understand humor at all.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
That's why they get offended by everything.
adam crigler
Well, yeah, the nuance of language.
I've actually talked about this at length with many friends of mine.
When you talk to me right now, you hear the tones that I'm giving you, right?
And a lot of the issue is the people on the left are reading those jokes, I say in quotes, in their perspective, the way that they're feeling, the way that they're insecure, their place of zero confidence.
So the way they're reading it is a direct, like, attack, and they add those, the nuance of anger and, you know, the feeling that they have, the emotional outbreak to those jokes, making those jokes a real thing in their head.
And that's what it ends up being.
tim pool
It's like, you lack the ability to understand context?
adam crigler
No, it's worse than NPCs.
An NPC wouldn't even think about it.
They wouldn't even, it would be like, I feel nothing.
Right, exactly.
tim pool
Rage filter.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It's like you say, it's really funny because I posted earlier about the riots in Minneapolis.
So this is, we're going to get into it, the gist of the segment.
Did you know that riots and protests have been ongoing across the country for the past couple weeks?
People don't know this, like Olympia, shutting down highways in Rochester, a state of emergency in Utah, in Georgia.
So I've got a bunch of these things pulled up.
Did you know there's a protest camp in Philadelphia?
adam crigler
I didn't.
I didn't know that until you told me earlier.
tim pool
There is a Chazz in Philadelphia!
Because the media doesn't cover this kind of stuff.
But I posted earlier, so for those of you who didn't hear, there's this New York Times story that a pawn shop was torched during the riots and they just found the corpse of a guy who was killed inside.
I wonder about this.
This is crazy.
First of all, I don't know who this guy is.
I'm sad to hear this person died.
And this is a really horrific way to be burned alive in a riot.
I wonder if people were, you know, flyering, where's, you know, this man, where's our loved one, where's our brother, our father, whoever this guy is.
His name wasn't released apparently.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're walking around and they're asking, he went missing during the riots.
And then it turns out he was in a building, someone torched it.
Now that guy's dead.
I posted that, and in line with what we were just talking about, with this inability to process complex information, somebody responded with, to me, saying that I basically hated Black Lives Matter and supported police brutality.
And I was like, how did you get that out of me?
It was a screenshot of the New York Times, and I wrote, playing for keeps.
That's it.
And the point I was making is that in these riots, people are losing their lives.
This is not a game.
And then I get people saying like, why don't you, you know, condemn police brutality?
And I was like, what does that have to do with what I just said?
It's the rage filter.
The joke is that you go on Twitter and you say something like, I like pancakes, and they go, why do you hate waffles?
I didn't say that.
I actually very much like, I prefer waffles.
But I do like pancakes.
adam crigler
You prefer waffles?
Well, what about pancakes?
tim pool
I like them too.
adam crigler
Wait a minute.
tim pool
I actually do like waffles better.
You know, you get the butter right in the little nooks and crannies.
adam crigler
I do like waffles.
tim pool
Waffles are good.
adam crigler
We could talk about waffles if you want.
tim pool
Anyway, no, let's talk about Minnesota and Minneapolis and we'll talk about the riots now.
So anyway...
Well, that's the gist of that story, that they found a body burnt to death in the rubble, and that's the thing that nightmares are made of, man.
adam crigler
It's terrible.
tim pool
So, how many people have died?
It's like 28 people, I think, have died so far?
adam crigler
I think it's way more than that.
Looking at what's going on in New York and Chicago alone, I think it's over that number.
I don't know exactly.
I haven't been tallying that up, because I just keep seeing death everywhere, and I'm just like, this is terrible.
I keep seeing it everywhere.
tim pool
Directly from the riots.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I think it's like High 20s.
adam crigler
Okay, but if you want to be fair and claim that the defund the police actions stem from all of that Absolutely that I think that's of course fair because that it spawned it started from the riots, you know over over George Floyd, you know right, and I think So they cleared out the New York Chazz earlier today?
Yeah.
tim pool
Pre-dawn raid.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, that's right.
tim pool
Yeah, did you know that there was a Chazz in New York City?
adam crigler
I mean, I knew about it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
The New York Times has been writing about it a bit, and they were like, it's a homeless camp now.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what de Blasio said.
He's like, well, there's not a lot of protesters anymore.
There's more homeless than protesters.
Was it?
I don't know.
tim pool
Was it ever?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, so here's what I said, you know, with my experience from Occupy, the moment you announce you're occupying something, homeless people rush over.
adam crigler
Right.
unidentified
It's like safety, free stuff, food, free food.
tim pool
Yeah.
And well, but safety, like protection from, you know, getting your stuff swept up, at least at the time being.
So they purged us.
But the question I had earlier was, When the protesters demanded a defunding of the police across this country, what is the end result been?
adam crigler
Deaths?
Deaths.
More people shooting?
Crime increasing?
Like, crazy?
tim pool
It's specifically shootings and murders, because actually a lot of crime is going down.
Yeah, like petty theft and violent crime is down on the whole, but shootings and murder is way, way up, like hundreds of percentage points.
adam crigler
I would much prefer people getting, like, thieves, like, running amok than people dying everywhere.
tim pool
I can explain something very simply, though.
adam crigler
Please do.
tim pool
One of the things I learned is really fascinating about crime rates throughout the world has to do with cell phone technology.
So when I was in Sweden a couple years ago talking about their murder rate going up, the one thing everyone liked to claim is that it's only gone up a very little bit.
And, you know, violent- well, violent crime is going down across- lethal crime is going down across the board.
We're only seeing a small uptick and it's all- you know, ultimately, you know, things are- things are getting better.
It's not that bad.
What- what was explained to me was something I never realized until then.
The reason why lethal crime has been dropping dramatically is not because people are less violent.
It's because we have cell phones.
So if someone gets stabbed and you don't have a cell phone, you go, help, help, someone's been stabbed.
You run around, try and find a phone, person dies.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Someone gets stabbed, you have a cell phone, you immediately call 911, they're there within minutes, they save the person's life.
Murder becomes attempted murder.
Or like, you know, aggravated assault.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
So what we're seeing now in New York and all these other places, they're saying violent crime's actually going down, but murders and shootings are going up.
What that means is what probably would have been a mugging has become a murder.
Before the defunding of the police, when the guns were being taken off the streets, the illegal ones, that guy would probably rob someone with a punch to the face.
Now that he has a weapon, he just puts a bullet through his heart.
unidentified
Oh man.
tim pool
And so murders are skyrocketing and violent crime in general is going down.
What it really means is crimes are becoming lethal.
They're being replaced.
I'm not saying, we don't know that for a fact.
It could literally be like all of a sudden all the violent criminals are like, we quit!
Amid the pandemic!
And then all of a sudden a bunch of dudes pull out guns like, let's go murderin'!
adam crigler
I mean, did we not want to add into the fact all the people that de Blasio's letting out of the prisons everywhere?
Or in California?
Or all the other places where they're just releasing prisoners?
Or getting rid of cash bail so that they come in and they go back out again right away?
And it's like, do we not think about that in the democratic cities that's actually happening?
So, you gotta add those to the statistics.
It's like, that's happening!
tim pool
So Trump wants to send in the troops?
adam crigler
I don't blame him.
tim pool
I say troops, but quite literally, it's just like cops.
The funniest thing about this is Trump's like, the FBI, the DEA, and the ATF are going to go assist in law enforcement.
unidentified
And they're like, Trump's sending in secret police!
tim pool
And it's like, you ever watch X-Files?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know there's a thing called the FBI?
Did you know that they actually have offices around this country?
They're in them right now.
What are people talking about?
They're everywhere.
Yeah, right?
Even when it comes to CBP and ICE and DHS and FPS, I'm like, you realize the U.S.
Marshals are literally in courthouses across the country right now?
I'm sorry, I'm flabbergasted because of how stupid this is.
You could literally walk up to someone and go, I need to tell you something.
unidentified
Right now, those secret police, they're everywhere!
tim pool
They're in the building now!
adam crigler
It's- Secret police.
tim pool
Make people think like, did you know that these people have been occupying your city for like 20 years?
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
It's not the end of the world.
How about this?
I've actually uncovered this really, really devastating secret.
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Go on.
tim pool
This could change the face of this country.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
It could reshape Oregon as we know it.
Whoa.
A lot of people don't know this, but I'm gonna tell you guys, alright?
Don't tell anybody.
If Antifa stops going to the courthouse, the violence is over.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Now that's powerful.
Imagine all of the different conflicts where they were like, we could have ended the war if you just didn't go.
adam crigler
It's too late.
The rest of Oregon is already trying to secede.
tim pool
Are they really?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, they've been talking about it for a while.
adam crigler
No, but there's a petition now.
They're all signing and trying to leave.
For greater Idaho.
Let me out!
tim pool
Let me out!
adam crigler
That's the really thing that's actually happening.
tim pool
Let me show you guys some stuff.
So first of all, we see this, right?
More than a dozen mayors in Portland are joining Portland in asking Trump administration to withdraw federal forces.
It's the stupidest thing in the world because feds are all over the place all the time.
Whatever.
Here we have this story from Shadowproof.
Shadowproof is run by... There's some journalists that I've known about for a long time, I've followed.
It's not like a very high-profile publication, it's very left-leaning, but that's less relevant, other than I know some of the journalists who do this, and I believe, while they may be biased, they're telling the truth.
Philadelphia threatens protest encampment with eviction, but still has no plan for unhoused residents.
You can see where their bias comes in.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
What they say is, the encampment formed June 10th to provide shelter, social support, and resources to Philadelphia's unhoused residents, many of whom have been denied access to housing and COVID-protection hotels, but its existence remains threatened by the city, which is determined to remove hundreds of unhoused people to prioritize the needs of the baseball field upon which the encampment has encroached.
Okay.
They're saying it's a homeless encampment.
Wait, wait, make no mistake.
This is a homeless encampment.
This is a protest.
So, this is kind of like the sort of more homeless-y version of the New York Chazz.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But all of the Chazz's have been homeless camps.
adam crigler
That's what it seems like.
tim pool
But this one is specifically about getting them housing and stuff.
Now, I wanna make it very clear.
I am not saying Trump needs to send in armed federal officers to clear out a homeless camp.
Not at all.
I think this is the kind of thing where you're like, we gotta figure out how to solve this problem.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Like, where do you put these people?
You can't just like, But I mean, neither is just giving them all a house.
bulldoze their stuff and then be like go away and that's not a solution it's never and never has been a
year a they literally just moved another part of the city
adam crigler
but i mean neither is just giving them all house of course not it's you know
that's that's not that's not something that we can just do like are well each and every
one of you now here you go here's a house for a everyone of you
tim pool
It's not how things work.
I worked for a homeless shelter, and I'll tell you, man, these people, many of them don't want to be in houses.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
What people need to realize, and I remember this when I used to busk, like, playing music in the subway in Chicago.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
And the funniest thing was, like, I had a friend who asked me what I did, like, were you working?
And I was like, I've been busking.
Like, what does that mean?
I play guitar in, like, the subway.
Like a homeless person?
And I was like, like a homeless person with a $300 fiberglass guitar and a portable amp?
I was like, do you think those people are homeless?
Well, I'm like, you've not seen someone perform?
It's like, it's street performing.
So I would do it outside of Wrigley and it's, you know, you make money off drunk people, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But the one thing I realized was that people would conflate hungry and homeless.
So they would be like, we need to feed the homeless.
You ever hear that?
adam crigler
Yeah, definitely.
All the time.
tim pool
It makes no sense.
I'm homeless, not foodless.
Food's easy to get.
And so I started, you know, when I actually realized people thought if you street perform, you must be homeless.
And I was like, I was doing it for fun half the time.
I used to do it in LA and Hollywood for fun.
adam crigler
Yeah, I love busking.
I used to busk in New York all the time.
tim pool
Me and this other dude would just like jam out acoustic punk rock songs on Hollywood Boulevard.
adam crigler
Fun.
tim pool
And we wouldn't make a lot of money.
We'd make a handful of change, but we were doing it because we were yelling in public and just jamming out.
And people out there loved it.
But then you start to, you know, experience what people think of you.
And I was surprised to learn they conflate these things.
So when I ended up working for this homeless shelter, as it turns out, most of these people were like, I would not like to be in that homeless shelter, thank you very much, bye bye.
And they want to be out in the streets.
So how you solve that problem, I don't know.
The point is, I'm bringing this up just to show you that whatever's been going on since the start of these protests, it's not over.
On July 10th, Utah governor declares state of emergency due to civil unrest.
That was not even two weeks ago.
So Trump is deploying more law enforcement.
And the law enforcement, I understand, is about crime.
But this is just stuff I'm pulling up to show you that, you know, violent crime in Atlanta, Georgia.
Governor declares state of emergency, calls up National Guard.
This was just about two, two, almost three, about three weeks ago.
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, about three weeks ago.
All this stuff has continually happened.
Did you know that there was rioting and vandalism in Olympia?
adam crigler
I didn't even know where Olympia was until you told me earlier.
tim pool
July 8th, stretch of vandalism violence escalates in Olympia Tuesday evening into Wednesday.
You just, you Google this stuff, you pull it right up, it's been ongoing for some time.
So we also have in Rochester, this is just from like two days ago, protesters shut down the interstate highway.
I heard someone mentioning there's like, there have been shootings and crime is going up, I don't know a lot about what's going on.
But mainstream media doesn't cover this stuff?
adam crigler
Nope.
They don't want people to know that people are actually riding out there.
tim pool
No, I think they don't care.
I think they don't care.
adam crigler
I think they're pushing a narrative that everything is Trump's fault.
And if it doesn't fit that bill, then they don't go to that.
And that's what I keep seeing.
It's awfully biased as far as I'm concerned.
Cause I watch him, you know, I listen to what he's actually saying.
And I, they're definitely, they're ignoring specific things.
This exactly, this is another thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
So go to this.
At least 15 wounded during an exchange of gunfire at a funeral, uh, for Chicago gun violence victims.
There was over, I think they said over 80 casings, the police officer said 80 casings.
So it was a gun battle.
Like they were, I mean, it wasn't just like a few shots, 80 bullet casings were found on the scene.
That's crazy.
That's not just- That's Chicago.
You're right, that's Chicago.
It's a war zone.
This is one instance.
tim pool
This story happened today, the day Trump announced Operation Legend.
And this story perfectly exemplifies exactly why Donald Trump is doing it.
It was a funeral for a victim of gun violence.
And gun violence broke out.
Come on, man.
adam crigler
Come on.
Yep.
tim pool
Reminds me of that South Park episode.
Come on people now.
Come on.
Here's what we saw yesterday from the Washington Post.
2020 is shattering gun violence records.
We must act.
That's a cool photo of a bunch of guns.
adam crigler
Right, I'm sure they're gonna try to connect it to the amount of gun sales that have gone through the roof also.
But those aren't the guns that are causing this violence.
I mean, I didn't read through this article.
This is the first time I'm seeing it right now.
tim pool
This is a photo of guns from 2011.
adam crigler
Of course it is.
tim pool
Yeah, they pulled a stock photo of guns and they're like, guns bad.
Well, look, I don't know what he's saying in this article.
And quite honestly, that's not the point.
I'm showing you this article because the Washington Post just yesterday published an op-ed saying, we must act.
And what happens?
The next day, Donald Trump comes out and says, it's time to act.
And then what is the anti-Trump people He's actually acting!
adam crigler
Wait, what?
Is that what you wanted?
tim pool
This is another really good example of one of, I think, the problems we face in this country.
Trump will see something in the news, he'll respond to it, and then they'll reverse their position.
So like, the news will say something like, we've got a serious crime problem throughout this nation and something needs to be done about it, where's the president?
Then Trump will come out the next day and be like, the violence across this country is terrible, everybody agrees, we're gonna do something about it.
Trump is sending in police.
What does he think he is, a dictator?
It happened.
I kid you not.
I read the news.
adam crigler
Oh, I know.
I read it, too.
tim pool
The media will report something.
It's worse than that.
They'll say something like, the sky is blue.
And Trump will go, did you hear this on the news the other day?
The sky is apparently blue.
It's incredible.
And then they'll report, Trump is so dumb.
The sky is black.
Where did he get this idea?
unidentified
And then they'll be like, fact check false, Trump stupid.
tim pool
Like, I kid you not.
There are things reported in the news that I hear Trump repeat and then all of a sudden the news is the other direction now.
adam crigler
Yes, Tim, yes.
unidentified
Let the pill just go into your veins.
tim pool
Break open and... Oh, but dude, I work for these companies.
adam crigler
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
I work for them.
adam crigler
I've been your friend, and we've had many conversations of what you've been through over these past, you know, eight years of knowing you.
tim pool
One of my favorite stories was when, and I think we mentioned this before, when Ghost in the Shell, the movie, came out with Scarlett Johansson.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
tim pool
And I'm in a meeting, and they're like, can you believe that they're, like, hiring a white actress to play, you know, the major in this film?
That's, like, Motoko Kasanagi, I think is the name of the character in the anime.
And I was like, actually, I'm a fan, and I think that actually makes sense.
Like, the theme of the show is, like, you can change bodies.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I thought they would have loved this, because it's transhumanism.
So, like, in this universe of Ghost in the Shell, theoretically, you could be, like, born a dude and then transfer into a prosthetic female body.
Instead, they're like, mm, no, racism.
And I'm like, but I'm telling you, I know this show.
And they're like, mm, no, racism.
And I'm like, okay.
I don't know what I'm doing here, dude.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They weren't interested in the truth.
They were interested in some kind of narrative.
The worst thing about it is they, there are people who are trapped in this world of fake news.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
So Trump is sending out police.
Okay, good.
adam crigler
I think most people are thinking, good, awesome.
I'm so happy that the violence, especially in the suburbs.
Legend, Operation Legend, just to let everyone know, Legend is the name of a four-year-old boy that was killed.
from a stray bullet from a gunfight in Kansas City.
And this is a terrible shame.
No one's talking about this little child that just got killed.
A four-year-old.
tim pool
And that's why there are a lot of activists that... You know what, man?
Bevelyn Beattie?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
adam crigler
She's amazing.
tim pool
Because it's not that I agree with her politics.
It's that people have to be brave to stand up for these things.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
When the media props you up and you demand a seat at the table, respect.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
You know, I watched Trump's speech about this and, you know, I was telling you about this earlier.
I was wondering if they were going to talk about who was doing the violence.
Not one time did they talk about it.
There was no, you know, trying to counter with statistics of like, you know, black on black crime and whatever.
And it's like, Because that's not what's important.
What's important are people are actually dying.
Little children are getting killed all across this country and people are ignoring that fact because it's... Why?
Actually, I still don't understand why they're ignoring it.
tim pool
I want to make sure I clarify.
I don't know if I misspoke, but the idea is...
The media will say, Black Lives Matter, and they'll pull up all these left-wing activists, and then someone like Beverlyn has to be like, you know, I have a voice that needs to be heard, and they have to fight really hard, and the media barely gives them attention.
So let's talk about Chicago, man.
Let's think about FBI, DEA, and law enforcement coming down to Chicago.
What, 200?
No one's gonna notice.
Let's be real, no one's gonna notice.
And that's kind of sad, kind of good.
Growing up in Chicago, I mentioned this earlier on one of my other segments, if I was leaving my house and I saw these CBP dudes in camo with rifles on the street corner, you know what I would do?
I'd like text a friend and be like, yo, what's up with these dudes?
Yeah, they're here because it's like some law enforcement thing.
I'd be like, crazy.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's it.
adam crigler
And then keep walking.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's funny because I realized one thing.
The left seems to think that libertarians, what be it left-wing or right-wing, I mean like, you know, just basically freedom-loving people, are supposed to believe that law enforcement existing in your presence is a violation of your rights.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, listen.
When the camo dudes kick my door in and then say, or I got one, when the government arrests me for legally protecting my home in the face of a large group of people who are breaking onto my private property, That's oppression from a secret police state or something.
When a bunch of dudes are standing on a corner, and they're armed, and they're like, we're cops, and you're like, okay, and they say, have a good day, sir.
Thank you.
Your rights have not been violated.
The existence of law enforcement is not a violation of your rights.
adam crigler
Or to get more specific with it, when those same officers are inside a barricaded federal courthouse, and you start lobbying for Fireworks at them, commercial grade mortar shells at the office and they see you and follow you and then detain you for questioning.
tim pool
Dude, you know what this reminds me of?
adam crigler
I mean, you kind of asked for it.
tim pool
Have you seen that meme where it's a woman and she's wearing a sweater that says like feminist and she's shoveling feces over a wall that says the internet and the human waste is opinions and she's like grinning and doing it and the next panel is they throw it back and she goes, help misogyny!
That's like literally what it is.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
You show up to a federal courthouse and you start setting fires and attacking and breaking the barricades and then the cops come out and they're like, leave.
And you go, help, help, I'm being repressed.
Nah, man, look.
adam crigler
That's what we're seeing.
The optics, they're just trying to manipulate the optics and show everyone.
I'm so annoyed with the few friends of mine that are like, how dare you?
You cherish property over peaceful protesters.
And I'm like, are you?
Are you talking to me right now?
Are you not paying attention?
Unless you're on the ground, you don't know.
And it's like, I watch their videos.
tim pool
Right, from them.
adam crigler
From them, posting.
Like, look at this.
And it's them attacking and breaking down the walls of the courthouse.
tim pool
While they cheer.
adam crigler
While they're cheering.
Like, woo!
We broke into the courthouse.
tim pool
It's not a secret.
adam crigler
Wait, that's why they're coming after you.
What?
It doesn't make sense.
tim pool
It's tribalism, dude.
adam crigler
That's what it is.
tim pool
So this guy who messaged, you know, when I posted about the pawn shop being burned down.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
This guy came out immediately.
It's a guy I know from my neighborhood.
And he was like, you don't even care about police brutality, man.
All you do is just right wing grift, blah, blah, blah.
And I responded with like, He said, like, you never talk about police brutality, and I was like, I've dedicated countless hours to calling out with, like, George Floyd.
And then he was like, no, all you ever do is talk about, you know, the left, blah, blah, blah.
And then all of a sudden, a bunch of people started posting my videos.
Because I'm not going to go, I don't know, I do three hours per day, four hours.
So there's a whole bunch of videos being posted.
And I'm like, I wonder what I did say about this, and I click it, and it's me going like, this is disgusting, what this officer did, he deserves prison, and I'm like, why is this guy yelling at me?
adam crigler
Well, he doesn't watch your videos.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
They don't.
tim pool
But I think it's also like we were talking about the rage filter.
adam crigler
Yep, the rage filter.
tim pool
They're like, anything Trump does must be bad.
They don't think about what's actually happening.
adam crigler
And then once they find your stance, and if it's not their stance, All stances, everything that they believe, you now believe the exact opposite of all of them, because you're now evil, and evil things believe the exact opposite of what they believe.
So therefore, everything I believe is the opposite of you, so I hate you now.
tim pool
This is how I've talked about Bugs Bunny-ing people, where you get them to assert the opposite stance, like make a left-wing person take a right-wing position.
So a conservative wouldn't do this.
If you post something like, you know, all cops are bad, and a conservative, and this is a tendency, not an absolute, and they respond saying like, you're so dumb, that's ridiculous, of course not every cop is bad, you're blinded by propaganda, and you respond with something like, you know, actually I think cops are good, of course there are good cops, it's you who think this, they'd be like, wait, what?
I agree with you, what are you talking about?
But these lefty tribal people that often, in trying to engage my content, Have no real opinions.
They're just angry, rage-filled tribalists.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So when they say, when the dude started attacking me, this is really, really funny.
He started saying things like, you know, I don't care.
You clearly don't care about police brutality.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Three videos get posted and he's still trying to push this.
And then I finally said, what happened to you, bro?
Someone just posted a 14 minute rant by me where the first thing I say is like, wow, this is insane.
This video is disgusting.
I think we can all agree this guy did wrong.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then finally he goes, yeah, well, you know what, you're still a right-wing grifter.
And then I went to respond, he deleted the whole thread.
Because it was his comment, so he deleted it and just shut it down.
adam crigler
That's what I was talking about yesterday with that interview that Eric July was doing.
And he was just, he was trying to, he was like, hit me up, let's talk about it.
And someone on the far left hit him up and was like trying to argue with him.
And he was like, what about this and this and this?
Go ahead, I'll wait.
And he just, you know, minutes, Turned into a while longer and it was just like, all right, listen, I got nothing.
I'm going to have to concede this quick.
That's great.
tim pool
You know, but it kind of makes me feel like we've mentioned this before, how there's like different factions.
Is it the left versus the right?
Is it SJW versus NSW?
Nationalist versus globalist?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I think it's that the Internet has been filtering people between critical thinkers and mindless rage monsters.
So, critical thinkers have political opinions across the spectrum.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Like, Eric Weinstein is a progressive, and he sits down with Ben Shapiro, and they literally argue economic policy, but they agree on freedom and liberty and, you know, civil rights and all that stuff.
But then you take one of these, like, rage monsters, they won't even do the interviews, or they just try and strawman and argue semantics.
Wait, you used which word?
That word doesn't believe what, you know, I don't believe that means what you think it means.
Therefore, the argument, you've lost, I win.
adam crigler
Oh, good, I get to argue about something else now, because whew, I was running on fumes.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, semantic arguments is the best I've seen from the left and progressives.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, we're working on this card game, you know, the cancel culture, and we started thinking about, like, prominent left-wing people that we could satirize in the game, and it's really difficult.
adam crigler
It's a good point. Who is the like prominent leaders?
tim pool
Of course there are a lot of people we can name, but because they don't have solid opinions,
it's hard to represent what they actually do. Yeah, that's a good point. So like when we say
something like we're gonna make a satire of Jordan Peterson, Peter Jordanson,
we know so much about his positions, his principles.
It's really easy to satirize him, making him do something antithetical to his existence or like shoot lobsters out of his hands.
Or like turning people into lobsters.
lydia smith
Riding lobsters.
tim pool
That is very simple, but it's also just like making him a more exaggerated version, like he cleans your room, things like that.
When it comes to the left, it's like they're just mindless I feel like there's very few people to actually pull up that represent the far left that have cohesive arguments.
There are people, though.
We do have some ideas.
adam crigler
I'm looking at chat, and I just gotta give a shout-out to chat.
They've labeled a few people that are pretty solid.
tim pool
No, I know, I know.
Definitely.
adam crigler
I'm looking at them like, yep, yep.
Awesome.
Nice job, chat.
tim pool
I don't wanna say the name of somebody posted it.
Let's just say...
adam crigler
We're going to talk about that.
I'm going to write that down for later, though.
Nice job.
Thank you, Chad.
tim pool
There are high-profile left-wing people we're going to satirize.
adam crigler
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
But making fun of them is like...
It's different.
It's different.
Because their opinions bounce.
Ezra Klein's a really good example.
Someone posted a forum of how to be Ezra Klein.
He's the founder of Vox, one of the founders.
And they were like, basically, he's a sophist.
Whenever an issue pops up that is negatively impacting the left, he'll be like, actually, the thing we need to do.
So a good example is when it came to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, he goes, Actually, lifetime appointments are absolutely necessary to the vital body politic.
And here's why, and it is a thread, and then someone else put another one up where it was like, when it came to a retirement or something, or when it came to a conservative who was like, I'm not gonna retire, he's like, actually, we really do need to set a time limit.
There's no opinion.
I don't know what the guy believes.
So basically, can we make it so that every single one of these characters is just a flip-flopper?
It's difficult to make fun of if the left is literally just like, I'll believe whatever I'm told to believe.
Because there's also high profile feminists I know where they'll tweet something and then a minute later be like, I didn't realize that was offensive.
My opinion is now different.
And I'm like, okay, whatever, man.
adam crigler
Or the people that just have no opinions at all.
tim pool
We're definitely going to make fun of, you know, like Trumpsters and enlightened centrists.
So like everybody's going to get roasted.
adam crigler
And a certain someone that says they just want bread.
tim pool
They just want bread.
adam crigler
Let them have bread.
tim pool
Let them have bread.
unidentified
Indeed.
lydia smith
It'll be fun.
tim pool
Cortex Antoinette.
Well, let's jump from here and talk about the evidence tampering.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Check this story out.
This will blow your mind.
St.
Louis prosecutor ordered crime lab to reassemble Patricia McCloskey's gun.
Oh man, I need my Trump button.
WRONG.
unidentified
WRONG.
tim pool
I can't do it.
WRONG.
adam crigler
WRONG Oh yeah!
I'll have to dig for it.
I'll look for it tomorrow.
tim pool
So, for those that aren't familiar, because you live under a rock, there's a couple of people, they're married, and a bunch of Black Lives Matter people, I don't know, whatever you want to call them.
What do you want to call them?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
It's not a protest when you break on a private property and destroy property.
adam crigler
We need a new word where it's not a protester, it's not a rioter, but it's like it could go either way really like you know what I mean?
It's like right the middle line between a protester and a rioter because that's kind of what it feels like.
tim pool
Yeah the issue is when you say riot you imagine people running around screaming smashing windows.
When you say protester you imagine a bunch of like hippies with like sunflowers dancing and saying like peace and love.
adam crigler
Yeah, really, the problem is, is there are Black Lives Matter protesters that are only wanting to protest peacefully.
And it's like, I see that.
But then there's these people that hijack it and steer it and make people whip up their emotions and, you know, start violence.
tim pool
Listen, man, I gotta just say, if there's a dude and he's like, hey, everybody, come with me.
We're going to go protest wealth inequality.
And they go, yay.
And then he leads them into a bank and goes, everybody hit the deck.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Bang, bang, bang!
And they go, yay!
You're all bank robbers now.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, you can't just be like, I didn't know!
I was a peaceful protester!
adam crigler
That's, that's really good.
That's funny.
lydia smith
You'll get charged, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, here's all these words.
Oh, look at all these, these, these, what is this?
Angry mob.
Yeah, angry mob.
adam crigler
Assemblers.
lydia smith
Assemblies, yeah.
adam crigler
That's good.
tim pool
I think mob is good.
It's an angry mob.
adam crigler
That's good.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, because an angry mob might not be doing anything violent.
They could just be angry and mobbing.
tim pool
And this was like, so they entered private property, and at some point someone broke the gate.
We don't know.
It wasn't before because there's actually a video where you see them open the gate and everyone walks in, but it was private property.
I read that thread.
I got that thread from Eric Schmidt.
According to the AG, the moment they walked into the private property, he could have just started blasting.
He could have gone full Danny DeVito.
Bam, bam, bam, bam.
adam crigler
Per Missouri law, the Castle Doctrine State, they could have shot all of them and been like, get off my property.
No, you're coming closer to me.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
tim pool
No, no.
It's worse.
unidentified
Better?
tim pool
I think it's worse than that.
lydia smith
It's different.
It's more than that.
tim pool
According to the AG, you can use lethal force to prevent imminent threats to yourself or like, you know, danger to yourself as soon as they enter your property.
They went into a private community.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
The guy was on his porch.
He could have went like, private property.
unidentified
Bang!
tim pool
Bang!
Anyway, anyway, he didn't do that.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
He did not do that.
But they came and they took Patricia McCloskey's handgun.
She was the one waving the pistol at everybody.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Turns out it was inoperable.
Here's what they say.
The gun Patricia McCloskey waved at protesters was inoperable.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
That's speaking truth to power right there.
Crime Lab, but a member of the circuit attorney, Kim Gardner's staff, ordered Crime Lab experts
to disassemble and reassemble it and wrote that it was, quote, readily capable of lethal
use in charging documents filed Monday.
Five on your side has learned.
Good local journalism.
You guys rock.
This is what journalism is.
We looked at the documents.
We uncovered evidence tampering from the state.
Boom.
That's speaking truth to power right there.
adam crigler
Yes, it is.
tim pool
In Missouri, police and prosecutors must prove that a weapon is readily capable of lethal
use when it is used in the type of crime in which the McCloskeys have been charged.
Assistant Circuit Attorney Chris Hinckley ordered Crime Lab staff members to field-strip the handgun and found it had been assembled incorrectly.
Specifically, the firing pin spring was put in front of the firing pin, which was backward, and made the gun incapable of firing according to documents obtained by FiveOnYourSide.
Firearms experts then put the gun back together in the correct order and test fired it, finding that it worked according to the documents.
Patricia McCloskey and her husband have said the handgun she waved at protesters was inoperable because they had used it as a prop during a lawsuit they once filed against a gun manufacturer in order to bring it into a courtroom.
They made it inoperable.
adam crigler
So they knew it.
tim pool
Have you ever seen the movie Shooter?
Yeah.
adam crigler
Awesome.
Mark Wahlberg.
tim pool
Mark Wahlberg.
adam crigler
Great movie.
tim pool
Great movie.
In the end, he walks into the hearing with the feds and they have the rifle on the table.
adam crigler
Do you trust me with your life?
tim pool
You gotta speak into the microphone.
adam crigler
Hold on, give me the room shot.
lydia smith
There we go, okay.
adam crigler
Do you trust me with your life, Tim?
tim pool
Yes, I do.
So, it's Michael Pena, I think, is his name?
Is that his name?
The actor?
adam crigler
Yeah, he's great too.
tim pool
Mark Wahlberg walks in, and he pulls a bullet out, and he puts it in the gun, and he picks it up, and he aims it at the dude, and he says, do you trust me with your life?
And he goes, yes.
And then when he pulls the trigger, nothing happens.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then he puts it down, and he says that he's removed the firing, or he switched... He removes the firing pin on all of his guns.
He switched them.
adam crigler
No, he, no, he, trust me, I've seen it.
tim pool
My understanding is that he switched them so that you couldn't tell unless you had a micrometer.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He said, a normal person would see the firing pin and think it would work, but it's off.
You need a micrometer to tell.
adam crigler
Ah, nice.
Something like that.
Some really, yeah, you may be right.
unidentified
As painful as it is to say that.
tim pool
But you guys might know, because I remember something like that.
adam crigler
Now I've got to see that movie again.
I really do like that movie a lot.
That movie's good.
It's a good one, yeah.
tim pool
When he goes and gets revenge afterwards.
adam crigler
Oh man, that's great.
tim pool
But anyway, I'm reminded of that when they're like, we used the gun as a prop, we knew it didn't work, and then they tampered with evidence.
adam crigler
To make it work.
That blows me away, how dirty this is.
lydia smith
Seriously.
adam crigler
It's political.
They're trying to make an example.
Morality policing.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
In the dirtiest way.
tim pool
Look at this.
Their attorney, Joel Schwartz, confirmed to Five on Your Side that McCloskey's intentionally misplaced the firing pin on the gun and that it was in that condition when Patricia McCloskey waved it at protesters and turned it in to their former attorney.
Quote, it's disheartening to learn that a law enforcement agency altered evidence in order to prosecute an innocent
member of the community Boom
Even a spokesman for Gardner says we can't comment on a pending case.
adam crigler
Right, and then we're even finding out that they had every right to shoot these people as per Missouri law.
So they didn't want to.
tim pool
It's better than that.
adam crigler
They didn't want to shoot anybody.
tim pool
Missouri castle doctrine is actually kind of scary, dude.
lydia smith
Best castle doctrine.
adam crigler
It is the strongest of all of the states, actually.
tim pool
According to the AG.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what it says.
tim pool
So I'm reminded of that episode of The Simpsons, where Homer is told that if someone... I don't know what... The Simpsons aren't in any definable state, but he's like, if someone comes into your property, you can kill them.
And he goes, hmm, hey Flanders!
Well, it doesn't work if you invite them.
And then he's like, get out of here.
But that's part of what it reminds me of, like the strength.
So I've got this Twitter thread.
lydia smith
There is a Springfield, Missouri, just for the record.
tim pool
Yes, I know.
lydia smith
That's probably it.
tim pool
Springfield, like probably five in one state.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
He says St.
Louis prosecutor Kim Gardner is engaged in a political prosecution.
I entered the case seeking a dismissal.
As AG, I have a duty to protect the fundamental rights of all Missourians, including the right to keep and bear arms in self-defense of one's person and home.
A thread.
Now, he issued this statement before the news came out from Five on Your Side, which was updated today, came out in the afternoon on the 21st, a day later.
I'd like to see what he has to say now.
I believe that whoever ordered this, they should all be criminally prosecuted for conspiracy, civil rights violations.
Josh Hawley announced he wants a DOJ investigation into the violation of their rights.
Bring it on.
Lock them up.
adam crigler
Boom.
I agree.
100%.
Let's do this.
That's dirty.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
This thread from Eric Schmidt is fascinating.
He basically says 8 million times, That this is a chilling effect on the residents of Missouri, that if you even consider protecting yourself, you may be committing a crime, and no one should think that.
People need to know for sure that if you come on my property, I can act as I need to to defend it, and I don't have to risk being scared that I've committed a crime.
adam crigler
Hold on, there's actually something in here that I caught.
The reason why this... I would like to find it, but he says that the reason this state, the castle doctrine, is so strong is for the black community.
They put that in there because they wanted people of minorities to be able to defend themselves back in the day.
Here's what he says.
Oh, you got it?
tim pool
The landmark Heller decision mentions its importance for anti-slavery advocates and
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
post-Civil War firearms for self-defense was often the only way black citizens could protect
themselves from mob violence."
adam crigler
Wow.
Yeah, thank you.
tim pool
Yeah.
This is why they're, they're, uh, look at this.
It also says, "'The right' was explicitly in Missouri's first
constitution of 1820, stating, quote, "'The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of
the state cannot be questioned.'"
adam crigler
Cannot be questioned, period.
tim pool
It's not even about, look, look, the second amendment of the United States, he at the left arguing, well, it says well-regulated militia.
Okay, we'll stop you right there, because in Missouri it says the right to defend yourself, period.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They have a right to have these weapons.
Period.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Now check this out.
I want to go down to the actual, uh, uh, the statute he mentions.
Section 56.031 specifically authorizes Missouri citizens and homeowner to protect themselves from illegal invasions and intrusions into their home and private property.
It establishes three principles.
One, Missourians may defend themselves and others using physical force, including firearms, to deter the imminent use of unlawful force by another person.
Unlawful force by another person imminent meaning the moment you walk on the private property They can say I feel threatened bang and not only that they were saying that room.
adam crigler
I'm gonna shower in I'm gonna sleep in that room It's like well.
I'm right through I read through what they were saying about it.
unidentified
It's like pretty insane what you know I don't mention that Because there's no video.
tim pool
The McCloskey's say that's what happened, right?
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
And as soon as you bring that up, the left is gonna be like, how do you know they said that?
Well, okay.
Then we won't bring it up at all.
Sure.
The moment they stepped on private property, the McCloskey's had every right to defend themselves.
adam crigler
As per Missouri law.
tim pool
Listen, if you go in front of a jury, a real reasonable jury of your peers,
and say, look at all of the riots and vandalism and looting and
murder.
The dozen plus people who had already been killed.
Do you think it's fair to say we had reasonable fear of harm?
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
Definitely.
adam crigler
A hundred percent.
tim pool
Did we have an operable handgun?
No.
Did they tamper with it to try and make you think we did?
Yes.
This stinks all the way.
Check it out, there's more though.
He says two.
Missourians may use deadly force against a person who unlawfully enters or attempts to enter private property.
That's the crazy part.
They could be trying, like about to step on your grass.
You're like, don't do it.
If you raise that foot, bang.
Now, of course, I'm being a bit, I'm exaggerating.
But if someone's at your door and they're trying to open it, you can shoot them and kill them in Missouri.
You can be like, you're trying to enter my property, bang.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, that's nuts.
unidentified
Three.
tim pool
Missourians have no duty to retreat from their own residence or property when threatened by an unlawful intruder.
Further, the Castle Doctrine specifically shields Missourians who act in valid self-defense from prosecution for unlawful use of a weapon by exhibiting a weapon in angry or threatening manner under 571.030.1.4 In fact, 57.030.5 states, it shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to section 563.031.
They can't even charge them with this!
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
The law specifically states, if they are acting in any way on their property, this law shall not apply.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yet they did it anyway, and they altered the evidence to go after them.
adam crigler
Yep.
lydia smith
It's political.
tim pool
Do you know what's going on in Seattle and in Oakland?
The far left is showing up to politicians' houses who aren't bending to their will.
So in Seattle, the council said, we're going to defund the police, except for like two or three people.
So what happened?
The far left showed up to their houses and vandalized it.
In Oakland, they went to the mayor's house and vandalized it.
adam crigler
Yep, saw that.
tim pool
I said it, man.
They're gonna start coming to your house.
Right now, people are saying, yeah, but they're just tagging it up and vandalizing stuff, right?
Here's what happens next.
They went to Tucker's house, I think last year.
We're banging on the door.
Tucker says they broke it.
They claim they didn't.
I'm sure there's probably some damage, and they're trying to say no, and Tucker might be trying to act like it's more.
I'm not gonna assert anything.
That's what was said.
Cassandra Fairbanks.
They showed up to her house in the wee hours of the morning, and they started firing fireworks, and according to Cassandra, some active gunfire.
She called the police, they found the commercial mortar launching stuff, the neighbors confirmed it was happening, and they've done it before, so why would I act like it didn't happen?
They went to the mayor of Oakland's house, and they did the same thing with fireworks.
It's happening.
They're going to your house.
What happens next is it takes one person, while this is all going on, to run up and kick the door, and now the door's busted in.
Then, people are standing around the house banging on the windows, and one person peeks in the door and looks inside, and then someone sees that, and they think, hey, they're going in.
They push in.
This is how mob mentality works.
One person will do one little thing, and then someone else will do one little thing above it, and then everyone adds a little bit to the avalanche, and before you know it, they come to your house, someone throws a brick breaking the window, someone runs up and pops it open and runs away, someone else goes up to the door and looks inside and throws a smoke bomb or a mortar, then everyone sees people running to the door and they all run inside, the next thing you know you're being dragged out and beaten into the street.
And people don't believe me.
They didn't believe me when I said this was going to happen.
When I mentioned that the violence is going to escalate, regular people are going to get involved, they're going to show up to your house, people were like, no, they're not.
It's not coming to the suburbs.
And then it did.
And now they went to this family's home.
This is where the morality policing kicks in.
And the McCloskeys did literally nothing wrong.
They are defended, according to the AG, to a ridiculous degree.
And the law explicitly states, as he noted, the law doesn't apply to people who are acting in defense pursuant to this law, 563.031.
Yet they charged them anyway.
That's insane.
Well, the good news is I guess the McCloskeys are civil rights lawyers, right?
Is that what it is?
adam crigler
Yeah, they're lawyers.
They know what they're doing.
tim pool
So hopefully they go nuclear.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And I think they're gonna have the support of Hawley, the AG, and the governor.
adam crigler
Yep.
lydia smith
And President Trump, right?
tim pool
Figuratively light them up.
Figuratively.
Gotta make sure you say figuratively.
I wanna see a tactical, legal nuke.
Because this is malicious prosecution.
Malicious.
They altered evidence to me.
Look, maybe I'm not a lawyer, okay?
adam crigler
Yeah, when I saw that, I was taken aback.
Like, wow.
They're straight up being dirty.
They're changing it.
They're trying to get them...
They're making an example of these two.
To make sure that the rest of the citizens know, if you do this, we can throw you in prison.
When they were well within their rights to do much more than they did.
Especially when they knew.
They knew those guns didn't fire.
They knew they were just, like, stay away from our house.
tim pool
I don't know about the rifle, but the handgun.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I wanna see, to whatever extent we can get some real prosecution of these corrupt individuals.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
Eric Schmidt points out all these things.
I gotta point out, it shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to Section 563031.
If that's true, and maybe he's leaving something out, I doubt it.
He's the AG.
We'll see how it plays out.
I wanna see criminal charges against every single person involved.
I wanna see the police officers who seized the rifle charged.
100%.
Those cops that decided they were going to follow an unlawful order.
Let me clarify.
If these officers violated section 571030.5, which says that law shall not apply, if they violated 563.031, which gives them the right to self-defense by firearm, the police illegally seized their weapons.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Just following orders is not an excuse.
And on top of that, that sounds like a 2A violation, too, because they broke no laws.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
They broke no laws, and the cops went and did it anyway.
Those cops need to be held responsible, period.
adam crigler
We cannot Everyone along the chain does.
tim pool
Yeah, every single person.
Period.
I've seen so many videos of these cops saying, I refuse to enforce that violation of our constitutional rights.
When Virginia was like, we're gonna take your weapons away, you gotta turn them in, all these sheriffs were like, nope, we're a sanctuary county.
lydia smith
We'll deputize you.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll deputize people, we're not letting you take your guns.
In St.
Louis, where according to the AG, it is the strongest castle doctrine state, you have a right to bear arms in self-defense, period, why would those police go to their house and take the gun away from them?
Just following orders.
Sorry, that's never been an excuse for Americans.
Never.
We talk all day and night about the Nuremberg trials.
It was the Nuremberg, right?
That's what it's called?
lydia smith
Sorry, yeah, the trial of the Nazis?
tim pool
Yeah.
We talk all day and night about how following orders is not an excuse.
I'm not saying the guys lose their job.
I'm not saying that they get locked up.
I'm saying there's got to be some accountability for cops who violate the law.
adam crigler
The highly politicized prosecution of Missouri citizens for exercising their rights to keep and bear arms in self-defense may intimidate and deter other Missourians from exercising their fundamental right of self-defense.
This case reflects the opposite of the state's constitutional obligation under article one section twenty three to uphold these
rights to keep in bare arms self-defense and protect
against infringement and it says that to a shall not be infringed in fact this political
prosecution sends a powerful and dangerous message
you exercise your right to keep in bare arms at your own peril
if you do you may find yourself in prison this case has a significant
a significance that extends well beyond the parties right let me
tim pool
Let me ask you a question.
If, I don't know, a couple of people are in their home and a mob shows up yelling and enters private property, at some point destroying this gate, and there's a history of violence associated with them, is it oppression and fascism when you say, hey, get out of here, you're threatening my property?
Okay, if a bunch of these far-left extremists show up to a federal courthouse lobbing commercial-grade fireworks and firebombs and whatever at a federal courthouse, is that oppression?
adam crigler
Nope.
Wait, wait.
Nope.
You had two questions, so I wanted to answer them both.
tim pool
So now we'll carry on.
If, in response to the extremists, law enforcement come out and say, disperse, you're engaged in an illegal activity.
Is that oppression?
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
Now, if the district attorney, I believe, district attorney, Kim Gardner, whatever position is, Yes.
Absolutely.
is in violation of the law and the crime lab tampers with evidence to manipulate it to
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
falsely frame a couple of people who are legally defending their property.
Is that oppression?
adam crigler
Yes.
Yes.
tim pool
Absolutely.
adam crigler
And there we figured it out.
lydia smith
A hundred percent.
tim pool
I found the oppression.
We figured it out.
Congratulations, everyone.
We did it.
We found out where the fascism is.
It is... Oh, oh my.
This is... Well, this is strange.
I didn't expect this.
The leftists... It's coming from inside.
The leftists are tampering with evidence to falsely frame people who are legally within their rights.
Well, this can't be.
They're the ones fighting fascism.
They were called Antifa.
I thought that meant anti-fascism.
They can't be the bad guys.
It's in their name.
adam crigler
Whatever does it mean, Tim?
tim pool
Well, we've got some strange going on here.
This certainly doesn't make sense.
Wait a minute.
Could it be that the people claiming to oppose fascism actually don't?
And this is the big point I brought up with the clearing of the Chas.
Bring it all back together with Trump, with the deployment of Operation Legend, with law enforcement.
They say they want to defund police.
They want to defund the police.
Except in St.
Louis, where we're falsely prosecuting two innocent people and tampering with evidence to put them in prison.
They want to end these malicious jailings of innocent people.
Well, except in St.
Louis, where we're going to tamper with evidence to ensure we can lock up our ideological opponents.
They don't want to defund the police.
Kind of.
They want to get rid of the police now so that no one stands in their way.
adam crigler
They just want the power.
tim pool
Exactly.
When given the opportunity, they will falsely accuse you, frame you, and tamper with the evidence to make sure they win.
Now, we could be sitting here saying, it's a good thing we have an AG and the governor, and we won't always.
These people have been, they're expanding, they're corrupt to the core, and they, I swear man, it's, it's...
You know, you know what costs me some of my hope?
We're the indictments of any one of these corrupt individuals.
We know this.
And I'm not talking about just these people.
We'll see what happens here.
But I'm talking now about, like, Obamagate.
There's at least statutory crimes on the side of the Obama administration.
adam crigler
That's true.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
Will anything happen?
Well, murmurs are that there will be some indictments.
adam crigler
I have a feeling that's some of the aces up Trump's sleeve.
tim pool
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe.
adam crigler
Man, he's sitting on it, man.
I know it because As I said earlier, we don't know if Biden's going to be the actual nominee.
tim pool
I'm kind of thinking no.
adam crigler
They haven't officially labeled him.
He's still the presumptive nominee.
That's been this thing.
He's not going to be the nominee.
They're going to pick someone else.
The Trump campaign probably knows this.
I mean, most people know he's not all with it.
He's not!
It's a joke!
tim pool
Did you guys see this interview he was doing?
Where all of a sudden he just broke and was about to go on a rant and then his assistant, I guess, just killed the interview?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So he's like talking to some guy and then all of a sudden Biden goes, what is this guy?
And then all of a sudden he's like off.
adam crigler
And he's like, what's with this guy?
tim pool
And then the assistant goes, that's our time.
And the guy goes, okay, thank you.
adam crigler
Thank you, Mr. President.
And then they cut back to Biden.
He's like, okay, thank you.
tim pool
There was that one interview on MSNBC where Biden just shut down completely.
adam crigler
I didn't see that one.
tim pool
He's talking and he goes like, yeah, uh, I shouldn't have.
And then the- Powering down.
adam crigler
You gotta use the smiley Biden face.
tim pool
And then he goes like, just, he just leans down.
And then the host on MSNBC is like, uh, so, uh, you know, she asked him a question.
Then he goes, yeah, I know.
adam crigler
Meh.
tim pool
And then he just stops.
adam crigler
Do you think he actually fell asleep for a little bit?
tim pool
Remember when he fell asleep on TV?
adam crigler
Like a micro dream?
tim pool
Like he fell asleep.
Remember that interview?
adam crigler
I do, that's what I'm talking about.
tim pool
Well, we don't actually know he fell asleep, but it seemed like he fell asleep.
You know, look, part of me feels really, really bad for him because he's very clearly like... I don't.
No, look, man.
I know that he's corrupt.
I know that he's a crony, you know, nepotistic swamp monster.
But look, all that being said, he is a frail old grandpa being abused.
adam crigler
No, man.
He is probably getting paid to be the presumptive nominee through this whole S-storm of a 2020 year until they replace him at the end of August before the end of the DNC.
And then he's gonna be like, oh cool, I can go retire and not have to think anymore.
tim pool
He's not gonna say anything.
He's gonna be in a wheelchair with a blanket on his lap and they're gonna wheel him into the sun.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
He's gonna go...
adam crigler
Okay.
To be a little more descriptive, sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
We'll go with that.
tim pool
That's what I imagine.
They bring him to the study and they're like, you'll be okay here, Grandpa Joe.
unidentified
And he falls asleep.
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
Could you imagine these debates?
That's why I really don't think it'll be him.
adam crigler
It's not going to be him.
I know it's not going to be him.
tim pool
What was it going to be, dude?
adam crigler
I don't want to say her name.
tim pool
I don't think it's going to be Hillary.
adam crigler
You said her name.
tim pool
I didn't say it.
People hate her.
adam crigler
She's been ramping up, man.
She's been doing these talks and speaking out against Trump.
tim pool
She's doing a TV show.
We were like, let's not talk about this.
It's happening.
Briefly, because we do have the other story we gotta hit, which we're segwaying into.
They're doing an alternate reality Hillary Clinton universe.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I'm not kidding.
On Hulu, and it's called Rodham.
adam crigler
You know what?
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing, Tim.
They already filmed that.
They want to put that out there to show the America, her utopian America.
tim pool
It's if she never married Bill.
adam crigler
Whatever it is, it doesn't matter what the premise of the show is, that's what it's going to be.
Guaranteed.
I have no idea what the show is, I'm just finding out about it right now.
I'm telling you, it's going to show her being this amazing president that saved the world from coronavirus and she's the hero.
tim pool
It was a really this is really annoying about the family guy did an episode where they go to a timeline where Al Gore was won the presidency.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it's like, everything's perfect.
There's universal health care.
And I'm like, Oh, come on, man, right?
The president can't do those things.
adam crigler
Yeah, everyone likes to think that the president has all the answers and has all the no, it's all of government.
That's why we need to take over the government.
All across the board.
We need to make being a senator something that we look at the same as a president.
We look at the president and we're like, wow, the president is so powerful.
We need to think senators are just like that instead of being like, Everyone look over at the President.
Just vote for the President.
Vote for the President.
Don't worry about the Senators.
We've been in power.
We want to keep that power.
That's the issue.
We've got to talk about that more often.
tim pool
People go to vote for the President and they do R or D. It's like, I'm voting for the Republican President and R across the board.
I'm voting for the Democrat President and D across the board.
adam crigler
That's a problem.
tim pool
That's why if Trump wins, then Republicans will sweep everything as well.
Because I really doubt you're going to see a lot of people going like, I'll vote for Trump, and then Democrat, and then Republican.
There are some areas, though.
CNN covered this, I think it was in Minnesota.
It's a Democrat stronghold that votes for Democratic Congress people, but supports Donald Trump for president.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, because the Congress member was pro-union and not far left, and Trump is moderate, and so they were like, we're not voting for Hillary Clinton.
adam crigler
Right, he is rather centered.
tim pool
Is there a silent majority?
adam crigler
Let's talk about it.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, the moment you've all been waiting for.
The Cato Institute has this article.
Poll.
62% of Americans say they have political views they're afraid to share.
50% of strong liberals support firing Trump donors.
36% of strong conservatives support firing Biden donors.
32% are worried about missing out on job opportunities because of their political opinions.
Right away.
adam crigler
Where does the 62% come from, then, out of those numbers?
tim pool
It doesn't.
It's everybody.
Have political views they're afraid to share.
adam crigler
That's what I've been saying for a long time now.
tim pool
These numbers are among liberals, so like 50% of the liberals would fire someone for being a Trump supporter.
adam crigler
Well, so not in, like, the classic liberal sense, because technically we're all liberals.
Like, America is a liberal country.
You know, you're talking about, like, the far left.
tim pool
Classical liberalism.
adam crigler
Okay.
Yeah, it's not like the crazy left, like, liberal.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Well, so they're probably using strong liberal in the modern sense, which means leftist.
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
I really can't stand it.
I agree.
adam crigler
I agree with you.
It's not the same thing.
It's like they're trying to make being liberal a negative thing, and that couldn't be further from the truth.
tim pool
There's some interesting stuff here.
Let's read this.
adam crigler
Go ahead.
tim pool
And it sounds like we may have located the silent majority.
Hmm.
I mean, literally, it says they're scared to share their opinions.
unidentified
62%?
tim pool
Look at this.
62% agree.
The political climate these days prevents me from saying things I believe because others might find them offensive.
Oh.
Uh, is it offensive to say you support Black Lives Matter?
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
Every brand and corporation does it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So I will tell you this.
adam crigler
Well, actually, yes.
It does to specific people.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
For sure.
And they've made it very clear that it's offensive to them.
tim pool
If major corporations and brands have no problem whatsoever supporting progressive causes, they believe that it's safe to share.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
That says to me, if these people are scared to say things, it's not what Pepsi said because Pepsi said it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's mainstream and popular.
adam crigler
And what's the statistic on Americans that approve of All Lives Matter versus Black Lives Matter?
tim pool
Like 58% view All Lives Matter as positive, and like 46 to 40 or whatever view Black Lives Matter as positive.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So, there's a lot of overlap, but there's more Americans who view all lives matter positively, and this is according to The Economist and YouGov, I believe.
Let's read this.
They say, a new Cato national survey finds that self-censorship is on the rise.
Nearly two-thirds, 62% of Americans, say the political climate these days prevents them from saying things they believe because others might find them offensive.
The share of Americans who self-censor has risen several points since 2017, when 58% of Americans agreed with this statement.
These fears cross partisan lines.
Majorities of Democrats, 52%, Independents, 59, and Republicans, 77, all agree they have political opinions they're afraid to share.
And how many of them are going to say, I'm satisfied with this existence, or are they going to say, give me the guy who made fun of Rosie O'Donnell on stage?
You ever see that video from Trump?
Yeah, I have.
Where Megyn Kelly is like, what did he say?
You called women fat pigs?
And he goes, only Rosie O'Donnell.
And then everyone starts cheering and laughing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Hi.
unidentified
Hello.
tim pool
funny guy. Man. Liberals are divided on political expression
strong liberal stand out however as the only political group
who feel they can express themselves nearly six and 1058% of staunch liberals feel they can say what they believe
adam crigler
that's exactly what I was saying. Yeah. Hi. Hello right here. What's
tim pool
reach me however centrist liberals feel differently a slim majority 52% of liberals feel they have to self censor as
to 64% of moderates 77% of conservatives this demonstrates that political expression is an issue that divides the
democratic coalition between centrist democrats and their left flank and thus the silent majority confirmed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
You know what this means?
77% of conservatives aren't speaking up at all?
tim pool
Not talking?
This means strong liberals feel the majority, they can say whatever they want.
Because their politics are mainstream in brands and media.
adam crigler
So wait, strong liberals would be the leftists.
Okay, so I am not a leftist liberal in any sense.
I am a classic liberal.
tim pool
Think about what this means.
If there's a majority of moderates, centrist liberals, and conservatives who feel they can't say certain opinions, those opinions do not exist in the political conversation.
adam crigler
Probably are voting for Trump.
tim pool
This shows that the majority of the country isn't saying what they really think.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They're not speaking up.
They're silent.
lydia smith
That explains the polls.
tim pool
And they're the majority.
unidentified
Boom!
adam crigler
Wait, let me get my full camera.
Boom!
Smash that like button.
Oh, that felt so good.
I feel vindicated right now.
Ooh, I need some smashes.
tim pool
But...
adam crigler
I had to get that off my chest.
tim pool
Does that mean they'll vote for Trump?
adam crigler
It doesn't matter.
They exist.
tim pool
They do.
adam crigler
They exist.
And it's proof they exist.
And this proves... People aren't... We talked about this earlier.
You can go out and be like, I'm voting for Biden.
And you might get some weird looks, but that's the extent of it.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Even if you walked into a group of secret Trump supporters and went, I'm voting for Biden, they'd go, Yeah, here, here.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They lie.
adam crigler
Cool.
Good for you.
tim pool
So if you can publicly say you're voting for Biden and everyone cheers, then Trump supporters are going to be lying about who they're voting for.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So this is the biggest and most important point in the polling.
There's two things.
One, I think it was the New York Times that found telephone polls tend to overrepresent Biden's support.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
And because when a journalist calls you and says, Hi, I'm a journalist from the New York Times.
Who are you voting for?
You go, I'm not telling this guy.
He's going to dox me.
adam crigler
And he sounded creepy.
lydia smith
How's the point?
Channeling a little Biden there.
adam crigler
Oh man, I gotta say though, I gotta say.
tim pool
Look fat, here's the deal!
adam crigler
I felt that feels good, having an actual proof of what I've been saying, of what I believe.
This is most Americans, like America, being strong.
They want America to be strong.
They want the jobs here.
Period.
tim pool
What were those things that Nancy Pelosi was wearing?
Kente cloth?
unidentified
Is that it?
adam crigler
Yeah, kente cloth.
tim pool
So what do you think regular Americans are thinking when they see the Democrats drop to their knees wearing kente cloths?
They're gonna be like...
adam crigler
What is happening?
tim pool
We don't like that.
Listen, look at this poll right here.
Staunch liberals stand out as the only group who feels they can share their political opinions.
Agree or disagree.
The political climate these days prevents me from saying things I believe because others might find them offensive.
Strong liberal is the only faction that disagrees with that statement.
That means what they say is more so safe to say, and most other people are afraid to say what they believe.
Conservatives and strong conservatives are like, I can't do it.
What that means is everybody is lying because no one feels like it's safe to say these things.
So, I mean, look, when Adam did his bit where he's like, you know, you said you were going to vote for Trump.
Yep.
It goes on Facebook, 2.4 million views and Facebook deleted it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Now, what would happen if you were like, you gotta vote for Biden, man.
Biden's the way, the truth.
adam crigler
You know, he's the- Put it at the top of the algorithm.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
You get a lot fewer views, but you'd be at the top of the algorithm.
tim pool
People wouldn't be sharing it, but they would not ban you.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Same thing with Twitter, man.
And I was warning about this, like, a long time ago.
What happens when they start censoring and all this stuff?
They have whipped themselves into a paranoid, delusional state that they believe is reality.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
They're eating their own refuse, believing it's true.
But will this translate into a victory for Trump?
We don't know.
adam crigler
I mean, what scares me is they keep saying like, well, Trump's, Trump's, you know, election fraud, like he's gonna, he's gonna try to do all this stuff.
And I'm like, no, everyone's gonna vote for him.
You're, you're, you're afraid.
You're afraid, Democrats.
They are, and they should be, because the majority of Americans are going to vote for Trump.
Period.
tim pool
You know what I'm going to say?
If you haven't, subscribe, notification bell, and I'll tell you why.
Because this next paragraph explains everything.
Oh boy.
We started this show, and I was thinking we'll probably have some decent growth.
The show's been exploding.
We're getting 100,000 subscribers per month on average in the past couple months.
It's nuts.
adam crigler
I want that doubled.
tim pool
In 2017, most centrist liberals felt confident they could express their views at 54%.
lydia smith
Check it out.
tim pool
There's a very good reason why, and they've nailed it.
Look at this.
In 2017, most centrist liberals felt confident they could express their views at 54%.
However, today, slightly less than half, 48%, feel the same.
The share who feel they cannot be open increased 7 points from 45% in 2017 to 52% today.
In fact, there have been shifts across the board where most people among all political groups feel they are walking on eggshells.
unidentified
Boom.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
There are conservative shows that have always been conservative, and they tell you conservative things, and conservatives like that.
But there are very few shows where there are, like, centrist-moderate, center-left or center-right opinions, that, like, regular people who are like, I'm not very strong politically, here's how I think, but no one says it.
Because you're either safe on the conservative side where you know you have your conservative allies or the progressives who think everyone's on their side and they're right.
So we start doing things where we're like, I'm saying, you know, I guess I'll end up voting for Trump.
I'm leaning that direction.
He's not that bad.
You're saying, I'm not going to vote for him.
But this is a show with a hippie skateboarding, pro skateboarder, rockstar guy who like first started reading about Trump and all of a sudden was like, whoa.
I'm gonna vote for this guy.
adam crigler
Whoa, his policies are actually legit.
He's actually pretty great.
I'm not saying he's not that bad.
I'm saying I actually really like him as a president.
tim pool
And so this is exactly what I'm saying.
With so many people scared to say the kind of things you're saying, you know, I was talking to somebody who's like a prominent Hollywood figure, and you'd be surprised.
I've mentioned this before.
There are a ton, especially after doing Rogan, I got hit up by a ton of like Hollywood LA types who are secretly conservative.
And not necessarily conservative, but like politically homeless liberals.
So intellectual dark web is probably an easy way to explain what kind of views these people have.
And they're saying things like they either did vote for Trump, they're going to vote for Trump, but they know their careers and lives will be destroyed if they say anything.
So where do they go when they themselves are like hipster skateboarding vegans?
They don't agree with conservatives.
And so I was talking to this Hollywood dude and he was like, listen man, you got to understand, like when I turn on, you know, YouTube and I see a dude wearing like a beanie and a hoodie or whatever, and you're like a skateboarder musician who's like, what we need to understand is like, finally it feels like I get it.
Because it's really funny when the far left tries to claim that I or we are like far right or conservative or whatever, because you ask a conservative and they're like, no, of course not.
Those guys are liberals.
You know, you look at Dave Rubin, you look at Ben Shapiro, it's like the perfect example.
It's like, clearly they're at odds with tons of each other's... Well, while Dave has moved more to the right, you get the point.
When you look at traditional conservatives, you see... Like, go to CPAC.
Everyone's wearing a suit.
They're dressed up.
They're not a beanie-wearing skateboarder.
So all of a sudden now, you know, we're having conversations from a very centrist liberal perspective that didn't exist before.
adam crigler
I mean, I don't claim to be a Republican now.
You know, I never really claimed to be a Democrat.
I probably would have answered if someone asked me, are you a Republican or Democrat?
I probably would have said Democrat in the past.
Default level.
Well, Trump is not a hardcore conservative.
I know.
idea what anything politics like this whole year has just been me like
learning the political landscape so now that I understand it I'm not a
Republican or Democrat I'm an American period well Trump is not a hardcore
tim pool
conservative I know even Vox the progressive outlet said he was a
moderate they try to claim he's far right he's fringe he's all these awful
things and it's like his policies really did overlap a lot with this is this is
which people need to realize.
One of Donald Trump's successes.
was that his policies did overlap with Democrats 10 years ago. It made it very difficult for them
to find a position because when Trump comes out and says, we're going to secure our borders,
we're going to deal with immigration, illegal immigration.
Well, most people are like, that sounds great. Democrats, what do you have to offer? If
they came out and said, we completely agree, but we're slightly weaker than Trump.
Yeah. They'd be like, no, no thanks.
adam crigler
Wait, hold on. Hold on. I got something. Build back better.
Build back better! Build back better!
We gotta build back better!
tim pool
You lying dog-faced pony soldier!
adam crigler
Listen, Biden, just say make America great again.
That's what you want to say, man.
Like, come on.
Really?
Build back better?
What does that even mean?
It means make America great again.
That's what you're trying to say.
That's what you want.
Get out of here.
tim pool
It's like he's a dollar store version of Trump.
adam crigler
He wants to be.
tim pool
Like Trump, actually, actually, that's unfair.
That's even unfair.
He's in the dumpster of the dollar store.
No, no, no, no, no.
You know what Biden is?
Biden is like when you see those memes of stolen IP from China, where it's like Spider-Man with Wolverine claws and it says Star Wars on it.
That's Biden.
Plagiarism, confusing, makes no sense.
You know, it's funny.
It makes you laugh.
So we have his face to make fun of.
adam crigler
That's got all sorts of layers to it, that joke.
lydia smith
Yeah, I really like that.
adam crigler
That was good, that's multi-layers.
tim pool
But you've seen those things, I love it.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, it's good.
tim pool
They're like Star Wars and it's Spider-Man with Wolverine claws.
lydia smith
Off-brand, but worse.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
Listen, listen, not to rag on dollar stores.
adam crigler
Listen here, Pat.
tim pool
You go to a dollar store, they got your essentials, man.
They got a little bit of everything.
It's not like...
Walgreens?
adam crigler
No, but I can't stand it though because that's part of the issue of what we do as Americans.
I mean, I was, I'll just talk about myself.
You know, I was used to just going to buy the product that I need.
Oh, it broke.
Go buy a new product.
Oh, it broke.
Go buy a new product.
And that is across the board what we need to get rid of.
What happened to the days where we fix everything?
We have our one cups.
We have, you know, we have the things that we know we can fix and keep them forever and their quality.
That's what America made.
Is to me.
tim pool
Build back better.
adam crigler
Build back better.
tim pool
Check this out.
Check this out.
We got more data.
Look at this.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
Would you support or oppose firing a business executive from their job if it became known they privately donated money to?
31% among all polled said they would support firing a Trump donor.
22% would support firing a Biden donor.
Conservatives would not want—only 36% would say fire a Biden donor, but 50% of strong liberals would fire a Trump donor.
You know what that means?
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Orange man bad.
tim pool
It's very, very clear.
If 31% of all people think you should be fired for donating to Trump, you better not say you donated to Trump.
You better shut up.
Now, 22% among all people would fire someone for donating to Biden.
So there's probably a lot of people who aren't going to talk too much about that either.
lydia smith
Still too partisan.
tim pool
It's strong liberals who control cultural institutions.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
And half of them will fire you if they find out.
Strong conservatives, they ain't running Disney and Gillette or Unilever or whatever.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
They're not doing it.
So what are you really worried about?
And not only that, are strong conservatives gonna make phone calls?
They're not.
They're gonna say, well, that guy's a, you know, dumb as a box of rocks.
Yeah, whatever.
Anyway, what are you guys doing later?
A liberal's gonna be like, Call him now!
Get everybody on the email list!
Let's show up to his house with bricks.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's frightening.
tim pool
Strong liberal.
What does strong liberal mean?
That's ridiculous.
32% worry their political views could harm their employment.
They say nearly a third of employed Americans say they personally are worried about missing out on career opportunities or losing their job if their political opinions became known.
These results are particularly notable given that most personal campaign contributions to political candidates are public knowledge and can easily be found online.
You know what that means?
Trump's donations would be substantially higher if cancel culture wasn't a thing, and that might be the point.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
You know how many text messages I get from progressives because I donated to Andrew Yang?
It's annoying.
It's really annoying.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Like, non-stop, dude.
I'm running for, you know, Arkansas, and I'm like, No, no, no, no, no.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
And so it was really funny.
I got some progressive texted me, and I'm very polite.
They said something like, hey, you know, we see that you're a fan of Yang.
We're running.
He's endorsed us.
Would you consider contributing?
I'd say, no, I appreciate, you know, you reaching out.
Best of luck.
Please don't contact me in the future.
They messaged me again.
And they're like, hey, it's a different name now, but the same number.
Like, we're hoping to get some donations for our candidate.
And I'm like, I asked you last time to stop, you know, texting me.
I'm not going to donate.
And they don't it again.
And I responded the last time with, if you text me one more time, I'm going to donate to your opponent.
And that was the end of it.
And they were like, please don't do that.
We'll stop.
I'm sorry.
lydia smith
So that's.
adam crigler
Go ahead.
lydia smith
Hold on.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Give me one sec.
This is something that Karlyn Borisenko does when people give her trouble on Twitter.
She tells them.
She tells them up front.
She's like, you're giving me a hard time.
Please stop.
And then if they continue, she says, I'm going to donate $25 every time you insult me to Donald Trump.
And she does.
And she has a lady for whom she has donated $150 so far.
unidentified
And she won't clock.
lydia smith
And she won't mute.
And she's like, we're doing this.
unidentified
Let's go.
adam crigler
I got the funds.
tim pool
That's a really good idea.
adam crigler
Do you remember when I got here and I was getting those text messages from the Bernie guys, from Bernie?
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's right.
adam crigler
So I donated to Bernie.
tim pool
You were giving Bernie stuff.
adam crigler
Before 2016.
tim pool
Look at this guy.
adam crigler
I was all about that.
tim pool
This Bernie guy.
adam crigler
I liked him in 2016.
Me too.
I didn't like him this go around.
tim pool
Listen, in Bernie's original campaign, he was like, no open borders.
That's a Koch Brothers proposal.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Hear, hear.
Unions.
Strong working class, you know, support.
Okay, I hear you.
Now what is he saying?
adam crigler
Open borders!
tim pool
Decriminalize border crossings!
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
adam crigler
Give them all healthcare!
Like, what?
Give the people coming right off the bat, give them healthcare?
Wait.
No.
tim pool
I don't agree with that at all.
I did a longer breakdown of Bernie's positions, how he flipped on a bunch of issues, and now it doesn't seem to make sense anymore.
But notably, I remember the big change was when he said white people didn't know what it was like to be poor.
adam crigler
Yeah, but but go ahead tell me tell me that story. Well, no, so they started hitting me up and I'm like, all right,
please Please stop. I don't I don't support Bernie anymore
I'm not I'm not having this and then just like you said, it's it, you know, three days later is another person
Hey, it's Mike with the Bernie campaign or something and and I was like Tim like look at this what you
You were like, oh man, ask him about, I don't remember, the millionaires or the billionaires.
Ask him why he stopped saying millionaires and just saying billionaires.
We actually had fun.
Him and I basically just trolled these people for a little while.
And then finally I was like, look, I've had enough of this.
Don't hit me up again.
tim pool
I always do this because people don't believe me.
So I pulled it up while you were talking.
PolitiFact dings Sanders for saying white people don't know poverty.
That was huge to me.
I was like, whoa, Bernie, dude.
That does not sound like you, man.
All of a sudden he embraced this weird insanity.
So yeah, do they have the link to it?
adam crigler
They don't have the link.
Wait, hold on.
This is great.
He's working now with Biden, right?
tim pool
Yeah, on a Unity platform.
adam crigler
Hold on, wait, but didn't Biden say poor kids are just as smart as white kids?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
That's what he said.
tim pool
That's, that's the problem, man.
So maybe, maybe it was my naivety.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe, listen, maybe I was just naive.
adam crigler
They're a pair, aren't they?
tim pool
And when I thought Bernie was great, it was because, to be honest, I was following a lot of his old speeches, a lot of the memes, a lot of the things my friends were sharing, and I wasn't actually digging in.
I was just looking at Bernie on the surface, and I was happy.
I was like, this guy sounds like he's consistent, and it sounds like we have someone who actually cares.
And then, give in the chance.
In a split second, he was like, I'll take the money.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Just pay me the million dollars.
I'll write the book.
I'll buy another house.
And there's Bernie.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
Spare me, dude.
adam crigler
The billionaires.
The billionaires.
Now he's just talking about the billionaires.
tim pool
Yeah, dude, my favorite thing about Bernie is how he would say, the millionaires and the billionaires in this country.
Then he became a millionaire and he goes, the billionaires in this country.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You can still rag on the millionaires and be a millionaire, Bernie.
You don't gotta stop.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But yeah, he really did.
And he got called out in the media for it.
We joked about this before, that like, Bernie used to be on the outside of the mansion, looking through the window, yelling to everyone behind him, we're gonna get in!
The millionaires and billionaires!
And then finally someone opened the door and said, hey Bernie.
Come on in, leave them out there.
And he goes, Oh, okay.
Then he comes inside and he's inside sipping wine going, Oh yeah, the, uh, the billionaires, you know, all this good stuff.
lydia smith
The date he made a million bucks.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yup.
lydia smith
By how he stopped referring.
tim pool
Exactly.
You're like, you, you can look at when his campaign removed millionaires and then be like, now let, now let's look at like sales and his tax forms.
It's like, you know, the exact moment he became a millionaire.
adam crigler
Did you do that?
I I'd like to see that data.
That's pretty hilarious.
lydia smith
I'm really curious.
adam crigler
You didn't actually do it?
lydia smith
No, I haven't.
adam crigler
I'm disappointed in both of you right now.
lydia smith
I'm sorry, it just occurred to me just now.
adam crigler
I'm just saying, I'm just, I'm a little disappointed right now.
tim pool
It's the year he put out his book and then he released his tax returns, I guess.
And he's like a millionaire.
Just barely though.
But he's a millionaire.
I do think, I do think a lot of the criticism towards him for being a millionaire is unfair.
Because you can be rich and advocate for, you know, dumb ideas.
You know, just because you're rich doesn't mean you're smart.
lydia smith
You can be self-aware.
tim pool
Yeah, and maybe Bernie's like, wow, I made a million dollars, I should give it away, and then he doesn't donate.
Because, like, another big scandal was that he donated a smaller percentage of his income than, like, most millionaires do.
So, I don't blame him, man.
You know, he's not been a particularly wealthy guy most of his life.
He's old, he's very old, and finally now he made a million bucks.
He must have been like, we can finally have that summer home we've always dreamed of.
I feel for him, you know?
adam crigler
It's really interesting to me how, I just looked it up, a senator makes under $200,000 a year.
tim pool
And they're all millionaires.
adam crigler
How did they all become millionaires?
tim pool
They're millionaires before.
adam crigler
That's not necessarily true.
Was Bernie a millionaire before?
tim pool
That's true.
adam crigler
We were just talking about it.
tim pool
He ran for president.
adam crigler
How are you going to spin that?
No, no, no.
tim pool
It's not spinning it.
It's that a lot of them are only able to win because they're millionaires.
Because they've had long careers, they're high-ranking individuals, they have connections, and they can fundraise off other very wealthy people for political action committees and stuff like that.
But a lot of Congress is really poor.
The funny thing about Congress, people don't seem to understand, is that they get $174,000 a year, which, that's a lot of money.
But they have to maintain a living residence in their home districts and in D.C.
So there's actually a story about a lot of them who sleep in their congressional offices.
And they're not supposed to do it, but what are you gonna do?
They can close their office, you can't come in.
I guess they shower there or something?
But I gotta be honest, man, if I was in Congress, I'd absolutely do that.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm not gonna waste money.
What do I look like?
I guess when you grow up frugal and poor, you're like, no, no, no, I don't need an infinity pool.
Unnecessary.
Like, you'd have to be some kind of lunatic.
You know, some kind of deranged psychopath to get elected to Congress and then go to like some luxury apartment building with an infinity pool and like a Whole Foods in the lobby.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
tim pool
What kind of insane person would do that and then demand a raise?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Are you talking about a certain somebody right now?
tim pool
I don't know what you mean.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
That's oddly specific, but no.
Yes, I'm talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
adam crigler
Okay, I thought so.
tim pool
She said that they should pay Congress more.
I actually agree.
They should.
It's like, you gotta, you got, apparently there's like an infinity pool on her roof.
I don't know if that's true, whatever, but she's in like very nice DC apartments and there's like a Whole Foods apparently.
You know, honestly, I don't track her living circumstance, but I know that Michelle Caruso Cabrera, who was challenging her in the primary, like talked about this all the time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, look, if you want to ask for a raise for Congress, there are reasons to do this.
We want to disincentivize corruption.
We want to make sure that people who get in are incentivized to do work successfully for the people.
It doesn't necessarily mean you give them a million dollars, and maybe a raise doesn't make sense, but it's an argument for, potentially, some kind of pay structure that... And a limit.
Like Andrew Yang said, something like, pay them millions of dollars, but then they're no longer eligible for private income.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So it's like, as soon as you enter this, that way you can't be bribed.
adam crigler
Yeah, I like that, actually.
tim pool
Once you leave, we'll give you a job and you can't become lobbyists.
adam crigler
You know, there is something about AOC that I do like.
It is kind of what I was talking about earlier.
tim pool
Youthful exuberance?
adam crigler
Well, sure, but it's more than that.
She is a celebrity as a senator.
Congresswoman. Oh, okay. Right, right. Excuse me as a congresswoman. So but that's kind of what we we need
That's kind of what I was talking about earlier. We got to stop
Idolizing movie stars so much and realize that the people that are actually making the decisions for our lives
like we got to look at them and and well more attention to them and and look at them and
Want to be more like them Like, I'm not saying I want people to be like AOC, but she's proving that there can be a celebrity status in what she's doing.
tim pool
Well, so let me build on top of that.
I actually, I do like AOC as a politician compared to what the rest of the Democrats have to offer for the most part.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Because I would rather have an inept, braggart celebrity who is not part of the crony, corrupt class of business
interests and all that stuff.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Sounds familiar to me.
tim pool
Right. Exactly.
adam crigler
Like the president of the United States of America right now.
tim pool
And I've made this, I've called AOC like a mini kind of Trump many times.
adam crigler
I can see that, actually.
tim pool
However, there are much better people than AOC in terms of real populist politicians.
Like, I would say Matt Gaetz, for instance, would be like a more principled version of AOC.
AOC's, what we need to do is we need to get rid of these incumbents who have built careers off being politicians and don't actually do anything.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Adler, get them out of there.
adam crigler
Biden, same thing.
Right, exactly.
They're all the same.
They're not helping anybody but themselves.
tim pool
AOC, in my opinion, is one of the best Democrats simply because she's not a part of the corrupt D.C.
establishment.
adam crigler
And that's where it stops.
tim pool
Exactly.
And now I'll say, She is far from my favorite politician, period, and she has a whole list of problems.
Listen, but I'll tell you what, man.
I'd rather have someone who's really dumb than someone who's really corrupt.
Now, I'm not saying I'd choose either of them if I had a choice of somebody else.
adam crigler
This is the thing.
People like to say Trump is dumb, and it's like, they couldn't be further from the truth.
tim pool
That could be further from the truth.
adam crigler
Not at all.
He is a smart cookie, man.
He knows what he's doing.
tim pool
He may not be the smartest person in the world.
You can argue whether or not 4D chess is a real thing.
But I get so annoyed when I talk to people and they're like, man, that guy's so dumb.
And I'm like, if you think he's dumb and he became president, then what does that mean about you?
What does it say about you?
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Listen, man, if the billionaire philandering president, TV show host, reality, real estate mogul is dumb and you working at Starbucks, man, come on.
adam crigler
Yeah, I said to someone, I was like, well, you know, he has a degree in economics, right?
And they tried to argue with me that he didn't.
And I was like, oh, you know, he no, he actually does.
You can look it up.
No, no, he does not.
No, I'm sorry.
No, you're wrong.
tim pool
He didn't go to school.
adam crigler
Like, what do you mean?
Like he he did.
He went to.
He got it from the University of Pennsylvania.
I know it.
I saw it.
What are you talking about?
Look it up yourself.
No, I don't have to look it up.
I know that's wrong.
tim pool
But to be fair, AOC also has a degree in economics.
lydia smith
This all makes sense.
tim pool
But Trump was a billionaire.
AOC was a bartender.
Now, I'm absolutely not dragging AOC for being a bartender.
I hate that.
When people are like, go back to serving bars, blah blah.
I love the fact that she was a bartender.
This is America, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's proving that any one person with the right ideas can make it into office and make a difference.
That's what I want to start seeing.
tim pool
I want to see all of the crony Republicans and Democrats fired.
There are right now more principled Republicans, in my opinion, than Democrats.
And it's because the Democratic Party is led by lunacy, pandering to extremists who don't actually know what they're talking about.
And regular people are like, I don't want to be involved in that anymore.
That's a good point.
So now you're probably going to see a lot of centrist liberals, not all of them, but many of them, probably voting for Republican because it's a safer and more stable bet.
But I'll tell you what.
I will take more AOCs over Nancy Pelosi's.
She scares me.
Nancy Pelosi is just awful.
And I've actually had nice words about her in the past about their feud with AOC, but at this point I'm like, that was a mistake.
AOC is a lot of things.
Smart is not one of them in a lot of ways.
But, you know, I will give her credit for the successes she's had.
I don't think all of her ideas are bad.
I've actually, when she first won the primary, I went through her campaign positions.
I agree with many of them.
Prison reform, things like that.
But she's become too much of a celebrity who cares more about the buzzwords than about legitimate functioning policy.
She's done dumb things like the Green New Deal.
I don't like any of that.
But I would rather have a stupid person who believes in their cause than a corrupt person who's trying to steal money from the coffers.
When I look to the establishment Democrats, I see people who just want me to give them my money.
They're people who are like, if I get elected, I'm rich and successful and I can control everything.
I see people like AOC and she's, in my opinion, not very bright.
That's just my opinion.
People can disagree.
But at least she's not part of whatever that weird, gross swamp monster machine is.
adam crigler
Let me ask you a question.
What do you think about term limits?
tim pool
I, uh, 50-50.
I used to say yes, but then someone made a really good point in the Super Chat in one episode when they said, what if you have a Rand Paul, a really good, or a Ron Paul, a really principled, you know, politician that you want to be there for you, why should they not be able to run anymore?
adam crigler
Well, I can answer that question.
If we actually start looking at these representatives as our idols and wanting to be there, that one person, that Rand Paul, is going to show what a good senator is, what a good politician is.
And we're going to have more of those type of people trying to get into politics.
And it's going to continue with the generations that follow.
You know, there comes a point where it feels like the older generation loses touch with the younger generation, and there needs to be a gap there.
Instead, right now, it's like all these people have been there for so long, so they're, you know, the newer generation aren't even getting into politics anymore, because everybody wants to be YouTubers, everybody wants to be famous, everyone wants to be an actor or a musician, and it's like, okay, well... Well, we don't want vapid... Look, Like, I'm saying I'd rather have AOC over Pelosi, but I'd rather have a million other people over AOC.
Okay.
tim pool
I'm just saying, like, I think the establishment Dems are the bottom of the barrel, but I'm not gonna vote or support AOC.
I'm just saying, it's like, so we don't want vapid celebrity influencers to become politicians.
adam crigler
Sure, yeah, of course.
tim pool
Then they're more concerned about how they look on Instagram or on C-SPAN than they do about actually passing bills.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But we do need passionate populist people who care about principle.
And so we have a handful of them.
We need a lot more.
adam crigler
We do.
I absolutely agree.
That's why I'm seeing a lot of younger people running for Congress.
People my age that are making differences.
tim pool
Look, man, even far leftists.
They're taking charge, man.
A lot of younger far leftists are challenging establishment older Democrats.
adam crigler
That's why, I mean, we just did this article that people are even afraid to tell people what their political views are if they're right-leaning, if they're conservative.
So if it's not okay... Even centrists!
Even centrists, exactly.
So if you're not even able to talk about your political views, if you're steering towards on the conservative side of things, Well, then of course the leftists are going to be riding in and taking over.
So we have to have more conversations and let it be okay and have people that are more on the right side coming up and becoming younger senators and representatives then.
tim pool
Section 230 reform.
adam crigler
That's one thing we need to do, absolutely.
100% agree with you.
tim pool
The reason why this strong liberal bias exists where they can say whatever they want, it's so obvious, man.
Let me show you this data point real quick and then we'll jump over to Super Chats.
when you see this graph i'll tell you exactly why this is
Exactly.
strong liberals disagree they can say what they want
everyone else agrees they can't why these people will be banned from twitter instantly these
adam crigler
people get carte blanche yep boom
That is exactly what I'm talking about.
tim pool
Rebalance the system.
Buku's screaming.
lydia smith
No screaming, Buku.
It is time for the screaming, I guess, which means... It's super chat time!
adam crigler
This shows exactly what I'm talking about, though.
You know, with the politicians that want to be more conservative, they can't even go out and speak in the public because the people on the left are going to cancel them.
Like, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
We'll get banned.
adam crigler
You'll get banned, even.
So that is a problem.
We all have to realize how much of an issue this is.
tim pool
You know why I'm not scared of being banned?
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
Because I don't care.
adam crigler
That's the same as me.
I don't care.
I'm going to say what I believe.
Always.
tim pool
There's one way of saying it, nihilistic.
But maybe zen is a better way of putting it.
If all of my social media got banned overnight, I'm not going to cry.
I'm not going to scream.
I'm going to be like, well, that was fun.
adam crigler
Well, what about the libel laws?
Libel?
We were talking about it before.
tim pool
Libel laws?
adam crigler
Libel laws.
tim pool
When they defame you?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like the media straight-up lies about... Non-stop.
tim pool
That's the First Amendment.
adam crigler
Right.
I know, but I feel like there should be some sort of balance between, you know, 230 reform and not being able to just completely twist and lie about, you know, political people.
They are a public forum.
People are watching them for news.
We need to repeal Times V Sullivan.
Actually, I agree.
I was looking into it.
tim pool
Right.
Times v. Sullivan set the higher standard for defamation, where basically you have to prove that the other person who lied knew they were lying.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The standard should be that if you... So, if you lie, and I can prove you lied, we should have some system where we can adjudicate it, and I can say, Your Honor, I believe that what they've said is a lie, and here's proof.
And the judge can say, upon looking at the evidence, I would say this information is incorrect.
Correct the information.
adam crigler
Honestly, I feel like we can prove that all the time that mainstream media lies about.
tim pool
Absolutely.
adam crigler
So it's like, if we can prove it, we just can't prove that they knew?
The problem is... That's the problem?
tim pool
Yes.
The problem, though, is the reason it'll never win is because it would open the door for endless lawsuits, which would shut down all these news organizations, and that would be considered an affront to the First Amendment.
adam crigler
I see.
tim pool
Yep.
This is the problem, man.
Lies are speech.
And so they get away with it.
adam crigler
Well, right now we're seeing that truth is also, you know... You'll get banned for telling the truth.
Well, that's the issue.
Because we need 230 reform first and foremost.
So they can lie when they're strong liberals, but as soon as you go, I mean, as soon as you switch over to just regular liberal and beyond, then your truth... This chart explains everything, man.
unidentified
I know.
adam crigler
Look at this.
The more I'm looking at this chart, this is exactly what we've been talking about for
months now.
tim pool
The political center is actually to the left.
It's actually left of center.
And then the far left is actually just slight, like this is crazy.
That means if you go beyond strong liberal, what, like tanky communist authoritarians
think that they can say whatever they want?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They can!
adam crigler
Yeah, they can.
tim pool
They go on Twitter and they post addresses.
When I was doing my interview, when I was doing that episode of Rogan with Dorsey, I was like, here's a Twitter account that actually docked somebody, and they were like, it's still there?
Yeah.
Oh, we'll figure it out.
We'll do something about it.
It was still up after being reported.
They would not take it down.
But if you're a conservative and you say even one naughty word like, flatulence, banned!
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Poppycock!
unidentified
Ooh!
tim pool
They got me.
Let's read some superchats, huh?
adam crigler
Alright.
Yeah, I just had to talk about that for a little bit because it felt like it was right with it.
tim pool
Ian Hall says, things to use this money for.
Lydia's Red Bull addiction.
The rest is for the cat.
Sway, Jesus, Warlord, Adam, and Tim are SOL with this one.
unidentified
No!
adam crigler
What are you gonna do?
tim pool
Well, we're gonna give the cat whatever he so desires.
Gareth Green says, I went to Hillsdale College, the most conservative college in the nation.
One of only two colleges in the country to receive no federal funding whatsoever.
It has GOP ties, of course, but there has been a leftward slide among formerly conservative kids I knew.
And it's going to get worse.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
John Bushnell says, It's great hearing you guys getting red-pilled.
May I humbly suggest that what comes next is the realization that conservatives have
been misrepresented in the media for many more years than you yet realize.
And then next, that is really all about Jesus Christ and his way of life.
This is really all about that.
I'm not very religious.
I was a little bit when I was younger.
Franklin Troll says, Hey Tim, you've really got to check out this mind-blowing interview with Yuri Bezmenov.
unidentified
Gotcha!
adam crigler
No!
tim pool
I'll take 75 bucks if you want to mention Yuri Bezmenov.
unidentified
That's awesome.
lydia smith
Worth it.
tim pool
Spin the UFO.
Adam, here's the cash.
Get some old Forrester Rye whiskey for Friday.
adam crigler
Forrester Rye, alright.
tim pool
That sounds good.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
McArthur says, keep it the good fight.
I may not agree with some of your opinions, but mostly.
Mostly, excellent.
lydia smith
Very good, thank you.
adam crigler
We'll take mostly.
tim pool
Jessica Hall says, just like you, Adam, I used to be a progressive.
But within the last year, especially opening up a manufacturing business, I have taken the red pill.
Keep it the great show.
I also joined Parlor.
adam crigler
Right on.
Right on.
tim pool
Buku keeps screaming.
lydia smith
We're doing the Super Chats.
Jeez, dude.
tim pool
Yeah.
Hey, hey.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
He's yelling.
What's he doing?
lydia smith
He wants to sleep.
tim pool
Betsy's sleeping.
lydia smith
Oh.
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Long Dong John says, The only thing I smashed harder than the like button was the subscribe button on AdamCast IRL.
The Trump deep dive is top tier.
Spin the UFO.
adam crigler
It'll be back.
It'll be back.
tim pool
So we're hopefully in the next like two weeks going to be moving.
And we actually have an entirely second studio set up.
That we have to set up.
So, we were gonna set it up, but then we're like, dude, we're moving in two weeks.
Maybe we should not set it up.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That'd be really dumb.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, building everything out.
adam crigler
But I am gonna have my own Atomcast studio.
It's gonna be really exciting.
I'm really excited to set that up.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
That's awesome.
Coming soon.
adam crigler
There will be a little bit of a lapse between episodes, but it'll be worth it.
tim pool
Have y'all smashed the like button?
Have y'all followed me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at Timcast?
You can follow at Adam Krigler on the same platforms, and you can follow at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S, on Twitter and Parler.
lydia smith
That poor girl.
Don't follow that on Instagram.
She's like, please no!
tim pool
Well, she's getting free followers, I guess.
lydia smith
I guess.
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says, Trump does not need officers.
All he needs to do is take all the federal money from the states that don't want them there and see how fast they change their ways.
Love you guys.
I watched the first 69 episode live, but HVAC and summer.
Okay.
adam crigler
Yep, HVAC and summer.
I used to work HVAC, so I totally understand.
lydia smith
Busy business.
tim pool
Zachary says, in regards to Ghislaine Maxwell, there is a real threat of her naming innocent people.
What if she has spared the Epstein treatment in exchange for naming the political rival of the real bad guy?
lydia smith
Yup.
tim pool
I heard apparently she's got like long hair and long fingernails and she's all like, I'm for real, like an unkempt and just like, and they're like spinning around different jail cells because they're panicked.
adam crigler
Yeah, they haven't shown any newer picture of her either.
That's true.
It's all old pictures.
tim pool
And what if Trump is the bad guy?
unidentified
And he's like, I want you to say Biden.
tim pool
And then they do.
You're like, nah.
adam crigler
I mean, from my research of everything that's happened, that doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
For me, it's not about Trump.
It's about Bill Barr.
I think Bill Barr's on the level.
End of story.
adam crigler
I think so too.
tim pool
You can argue about Trump all day and night, but I think Bill Barr has got, you can criticize him for sure, but I'm sorry, man.
Like, all the lies they put out about Barr.
He's corrupt.
He's Trump's crony.
Like, look at the guy.
Let's know what he talks about.
lydia smith
He doesn't stick.
tim pool
He's so mild-mannered.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And he was AG before.
That's why Trump did it.
That's why Trump brought him on.
He was very smart.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He brought on someone who was AG before.
He was, too.
I'm getting that right.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was.
adam crigler
I like him.
I've listened to his speeches.
He's very articulate.
He knows what he's talking about.
tim pool
Very calm.
adam crigler
Every single thing that he talks about, I'm like, wow.
tim pool
He's criticized Trump, too.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I mean, I like him a lot.
I like him.
tim pool
And that's what it comes down to, to me.
Like, you can argue that Trump and all these photographs are like, look, here's Trump with Epstein!
And I'm like, I don't care.
Bill Barr is the one who's in charge of this.
And I don't know much about him, to be completely honest.
So maybe that's naive of me.
But I lean towards, I think he's on the level.
So Trump is not even part of the equation, as far as I'm concerned.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was AG under Bush.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
HW.
tim pool
Yep, not a chance says Tim if I see signal and a signal contact number in the bio of a news blue checkmark Should I assume they are really an activist or is there a legitimate reason to have it there is because?
You don't want someone to get access to your private messages, so I use signal a lot of Everybody should be using encrypted messenger to be completely honest Enlightened Worm says, any of y'all read The Fourth Turning in American Prophecy?
It looks into cycles of peace, conflict, and growth.
It predicts large conflict and possible change of social structure between 2020 and 2025.
I haven't.
It's interesting.
Kim Ruddy says, I would like to know how you truly see a future with Biden as president.
lydia smith
I don't.
adam crigler
There it is, right there.
tim pool
Yeah, that was it.
adam crigler
That is accurately how we, I'm pretty sure all three of us Yep.
All three of us feel that.
tim pool
Biden in a wheelchair with a blanket on his lap, sitting in the sun of a study.
And whoever is VP, an article came out recently saying Biden's VP will be the most powerful VP in the history of the United States.
They also did this story where they were like, Joe Biden, stay alive, Joe Biden.
All we need is your corporeal presence.
adam crigler
That proves my theory that they're going to replace him before the end of August.
tim pool
They have to unless they really want to lose.
adam crigler
No, they will absolutely replace him.
He's just a placeholder.
tim pool
The conspiracy is that they're trying to make Trump win.
They want you to think they don't like Trump.
adam crigler
That's your idea, right?
That's what you think it is?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
adam crigler
I haven't heard.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It's a conspiracy theory that they're ineptitude.
adam crigler
That you came up with.
tim pool
No, I didn't.
adam crigler
I haven't heard it from anyone.
I've only heard it from you.
tim pool
I did not make this up.
Okay.
They're so inept.
How do you explain that everything they do helps Trump?
They're secretly trying to help him win.
Back when Trump was running in 2015, there were protesters outside of his rallies.
They were holding up signs saying, you know, Trump plus Hillary equals friends.
I have photos of it.
They were holding up photos of Trump and Hillary together, and they believe that the Democrats have been trying to feign resistance as the establishment so that Trump could get elected as the underdog.
I didn't make that up.
It's been around for a long time.
I'm joking when I say it, though.
I actually think the Democrats are just completely inept and have no idea what they're doing.
Case in point, Nancy Pelosi kneeling while wearing kente cloth when most of the country doesn't agree with whatever it is she's doing.
They're chasing Twitter because Twitter has purged moderate and conservative opinions, so only the far left exists.
Then they think the far left is regular America, and they're chasing after a minority fringe sect of lunatics.
That explains it.
And Trump, he talks about these things.
I'll tell you what, man.
Trump's sending out law enforcement, DHS and FBI and DEA.
I'm willing to bet he's not looking at the internet.
He's looking at actual sentiment in suburbs and different communities and how they feel about this stuff.
Meanwhile, the Democrats are sitting on Twitter refreshing 24-7 and then replying to Trump, you're fat and gross.
You know, vote for me.
adam crigler
Oh, those reply guys.
lydia smith
They're great, right?
adam crigler
Reply guys.
tim pool
They're not great.
adam crigler
Get your own opinions.
Talk about your own.
Don't try to grift onto other people just to get followers.
It works for them, I guess.
Annoying.
tim pool
Imagine if the only thing you had in your life was that you were well known for insulting Trump when he tweets.
lydia smith
Pathetic.
tim pool
Is anyone going to invite you to speak at an event?
Now, when you insult Trump, like I saw one where you called him fat.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
That was amazing.
How did you think of that?
Well, you know, I saw a picture of him and he was looking pretty hefty, so I thought, hey, why don't I call him that?
And then everyone stands up and starts clapping and cheering.
That's how I imagine it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I can see it.
adam crigler
That sounds like a horrible Twilight Zone episode.
lydia smith
That's pretty funny.
tim pool
Graphon Tyrell says, I am well beyond caring about what happens in Portland.
That iconic naked image is a joke and the wall of moms is every bit organic as the kinds of fields you see in indoor football arenas.
Let's spin that UFO.
Yes.
Imagine if a man walked up naked in Portland and sat down and spread his legs in the street at the cops, what they would be saying.
Especially if it was a Trump supporter.
Especially if it was a 45-year-old overweight one.
adam crigler
It's great that you must know what I'm talking about.
tim pool
No, what is it?
adam crigler
Because right when Chaz was becoming like officially Chaz, some dude about 45 years old, overweight, stripped down and started running around Chaz doing laps.
lydia smith
I remember!
adam crigler
And they were like, sir, sir, why, why are you running?
Why are you running?
He's like, because I can.
And I just kept running.
tim pool
I was like, OK, some people got to get it out.
adam crigler
It wasn't a political statement.
It was simply because he could.
tim pool
The story where it was like she emerged from a shroud of tear gas, naked Athena, and then she's like her spreading her legs in front of cops.
You know, it's really funny.
I remember during Occupy Wall Street, a bunch of women would take off all their shirts and stand around topless.
And I was like, this is the kind of thing that makes you not win.
adam crigler
Yep, that's true.
tim pool
Because regular people look at that and they're like, what?
adam crigler
Wow, they're crazy.
tim pool
You know, I can imagine every single middle American father looking at that photo of the naked woman and going, I'm so proud of her.
I can't wait till my daughter strips down naked in the middle of the street and spreads her legs for a bunch of police.
Not.
adam crigler
All I can think of is how dirty that street probably is.
lydia smith
Seriously, it's dirtier now.
adam crigler
That is raw contact right there.
tim pool
You know what the worst thing about it was, though?
That guy who had the shield, who kept trying to stand in front of her, and she was clearly trying to get away from him, but he kept just going in front of her with the shield.
lydia smith
It was so cringy!
tim pool
Oh man, it was brutal.
Alright, let's read some more of these here.
Superchats.
Kyle Canuck says, recently seen a lot of Americans wishing they had Trudeau instead of Trump.
I'm willing to trade.
Both are narcissistic and arrogant.
The difference is one is good at his job while the other plays dress-up, wears blackface, and destroys my country.
That's pretty good.
adam crigler
Sorry, you can't have him.
lydia smith
No, he's ours.
adam crigler
He's our president.
tim pool
Thaddeus says, did you see my wife's first amendment flag yet?
Go to Emily Frost on Facebook and take a peek.
She worked hard on it and wants your feedback, good or bad.
Yeah, you want to write that down?
lydia smith
We'll check that out.
tim pool
Student of History says, fun fact of the day, a torpedo officer on the USS Porter almost killed FDR on the way to the Tehran conference.
Also, commies don't get to complain about their rights being violated as they violate rights.
Yeah, I agree with that one.
Definitely.
Let's jump down here.
We got Ty Scott.
He says, if I send you guys a new UFO lamp, can we get a video of Adam smashing the UFO?
Probably be a good video to do on AdamCast IRL.
adam crigler
Whoa!
tim pool
I vote no.
adam crigler
No.
I'm like offended.
No, no, no.
Actually, wait.
Well, hold on.
Now, you might have missed, or this might have been an earlier Super Chat.
I am making my own studio for AdamCast.
So I'm going to have my own spot.
I can't take this UFO.
This is the TimCast IRL UFO.
tim pool
And it's the OG UFO, man.
adam crigler
So by all means, send us a new UFO.
I will... Smash that one.
No, I will make a video of it and put it on onto my new desk for Atomcast IRL.
lydia smith
Can't smash it.
adam crigler
It'll be great.
I really would love to.
So please, send the UFO.
I will accept the UFO.
tim pool
We should put UFOs on every set.
adam crigler
I mean, it's kind of our thing, spinning UFOs.
tim pool
Well, it's your thing.
adam crigler
Yeah, sure.
It's my thing.
He said it.
lydia smith
It's the show's thing.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
He said it.
tim pool
It's mine.
I spun it first in the Instagram video.
I posted an Instagram video where I was spinning it.
adam crigler
Stop being a grifter.
tim pool
Remember that Instagram video where I was spinning the UFO?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That was the first official spin on Instagram.
adam crigler
That's a good memory.
tim pool
And then from there, you've been spinning the UFO the whole time?
adam crigler
It's my thing.
People tell me to spin it.
lydia smith
Mantle's passed.
tim pool
Alright, alright.
Okay, so we read that one.
adam crigler
Let's see.
I created the mantle.
tim pool
Let's see what we got here.
adam crigler
I almost made you spit.
lydia smith
He did.
I was taking a drink.
Thanks, Adam.
tim pool
Awesome Human says, from PDXTim, we've had riots since 2016.
Most support the rioters and don't care if it burns.
They always say small biz got insurance and buildings don't matter.
I feel like it's a waste of money, like PDX.
Skylar the Creator says, what happened to the Trump deep dive?
adam crigler
I just gotta do it.
I've been taking it easy for a few days.
I needed to take a step back from politics and research.
We skated today, that was really nice.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think the main thing is we got a whole new studio set up and it's kind of this purgatory where we're about to move into a bigger space.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, I do have the video though.
I need to edit it.
I don't have an editing program.
My editing computer is not in the country at the moment.
tim pool
And we have all the new stuff.
adam crigler
Long story.
tim pool
We could set it up, but then it's like setting up a new studio or editing machine and then moving two weeks from now.
adam crigler
But I'll do it.
I'll focus on it.
It'll be up by the end of the week.
lydia smith
It wasn't deleted.
tim pool
I don't know what that is.
Sounds fun.
Well, that's the point of Timcast IRL.
since I was a stoner in the 70s.
Keep it the good work, GW2 and HOD love ya.
Off to WVW have fun.
I don't know what that is.
lydia smith
Hmm, sounds fun.
tim pool
Gloria says, Adam and Lydia are awesome.
They are taking the spotlight from Tim, LOL.
Well, that's the point of Timcast IRL, so they can take it away.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Let's see.
Lanko says, guys, check out Bill Barr and Ruby Ridge.
Interesting.
Uh-oh.
Is there a reason for me to be mad at Barr?
lydia smith
I'm looking at his Wikipedia right now.
Let me see.
tim pool
Do they mention that?
lydia smith
Let me see.
I bet they do.
tim pool
Probably.
lydia smith
No.
Weird.
I'll Google it.
tim pool
Berk in a Box says, Tim and Adam, feelings about the new Pirates of the Caribbean team.
For the Lady of Whiterun.
Just a stupid kid.
Mercy me, every thug needs a lady.
I've got time to waste.
Jaked on green beers.
Hell yes, this could be love.
Just Alkaline Trio songs.
lydia smith
Yep, these are Alkaline Trio songs.
Yes, thank you for that.
adam crigler
So, it's the director slash writer of... It's Birds of Prey, too.
Birds of Prey.
So it's gonna, it'll be absolutely horrendous.
tim pool
I heard it starts with Harley Quinn accidentally triggering a time vortex.
adam crigler
Oh goodness.
tim pool
Which they go, whoa!
unidentified
And they land, and then Jack- Spinning around like, you know.
tim pool
And there's clocks for some reason everywhere.
Because when you time travel there's clocks all around you.
lydia smith
There have to be clocks everywhere.
tim pool
And then they crash land onto the Black Pearl.
adam crigler
Of course they do.
tim pool
And land on Jack Sparrow, killing him.
lydia smith
Of course.
And they go, oh no!
tim pool
And then she puts on his clothes and she goes, I'm Captain Jack and that's how the movie starts.
adam crigler
I heard, what's the girl, the screamer, whatever she is?
tim pool
Screamer?
adam crigler
And she screams and she shoots her down the street.
What's her name?
tim pool
Black Canary?
adam crigler
Yes.
I heard that Black Canary screams so loud at birds, or whatever her name is, you know.
tim pool
Harley Quinn.
adam crigler
Harley Quinn.
That she shoots all the way into the past.
That's how it happens.
tim pool
And they go, whoa!
Same thing, though.
I gotta be honest, everybody.
If that literally was the movie, I would definitely see it.
lydia smith
I'd go see it.
tim pool
That would be amazing.
adam crigler
Don't give him ideas.
tim pool
Like, I don't want to watch that movie.
And I mean, like, when they get pulled back in time, it's really obvious they're standing straight up with a green screen behind them.
adam crigler
Oh, no.
tim pool
And it's like, dude.
lydia smith
They're, like, waving their arms.
tim pool
Yeah, like, what?
For some reason, it clocks again.
No, no, I gotta be honest.
That would be hilarious.
And then they do land on Johnny Depp.
That would be hilarious.
adam crigler
You know why I'm disappointed right now?
Because I just came to the realization that we have to go see that movie now and do a review.
But I'm actually kind of excited because doing that Birds of Prey rip episode was so fun.
That was a good episode.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
I don't think we're gonna be able to go see that movie because come November, I think the Democrats are gonna That was, that was great usage.
I know, I know.
Thank you, thank you very much.
adam crigler
Very nice.
tim pool
No, but I really do think, I don't know if the movies are gonna reopen.
They're locking everything back down.
adam crigler
Yeah, AMC went out of business.
tim pool
They're completely gone.
I thought they were suing.
adam crigler
Oh, are they suing?
lydia smith
I think they're suing New Jersey.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
I thought they were suing Murphy.
tim pool
I don't know if they exist anymore.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Look, let's be real.
I don't know, how do we recover from this?
Do you really believe that after everything the Democrats have done, from Russiagate, Ukrainegate, impeachment, the lies about Smollett, the lies about Covington, like, I'm not even saying, you know, I'm just saying, like, the media lies, plus all the weird conspiracy scandals, and now they've been pushing mail-in voting, and now we're getting inundated with stories about mail-in voting collapsing and failing, that we're gonna have a normal election?
adam crigler
No.
I don't know, man.
tim pool
And then what?
They're gonna stop?
Trump wins?
They're gonna be like, okay, you win.
Congratulations.
Yeah, right.
Nah, man.
Hey, maybe.
adam crigler
I'll tell you what.
That was quite a change of pace.
That was a downer.
tim pool
Yeah, wow.
If, come November 4th, everything goes back to normal, the milkman shows back up, and the sun is shining, and two scoops of raisin and all that whatever, then go buy a lottery ticket.
First thing you gotta do is if they're like, Donald Trump wins in a landslide, the Democrats go, he had an excellent campaign, Joe Biden's like, listen here!
Trump ran a great campaign, he's gonna be a great president!
Mark my words!
Then I'd be like, I'm gonna go buy a lotto ticket right now.
Because the chance of that happening, no way.
adam crigler
Biden's not gonna be the person though.
He's gonna be retired by that point.
I'm telling you, whoever the nominee is.
tim pool
Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo makes the most sense.
adam crigler
I hope not.
tim pool
But I don't see him winning either.
adam crigler
He's got lots of blood on his hands.
tim pool
That's true.
adam crigler
Yeah, and Trump will drag him.
tim pool
There's no way.
But listen, listen.
I think Cuomo does make the most sense.
I really do.
adam crigler
As a replacement, really?
tim pool
Yeah, one of the reasons I think they might go for the replacement strategy is that all
of the attacks levied against Biden will have been meaningless.
It'll have wasted tons of Republican money.
And then they can swap him out with someone like Cuomo, who is not seen as a far left
candidate or a puppet or a unity candidate or any of that nonsense.
Cuomo walks in and he's like, I'm gonna run this country better!
And they're gonna be like, okay.
It's gonna make people who just hate Trump more enthusiastic.
adam crigler
Well, Biden's never... Biden's bad, and he's creepy, but he doesn't have, as far as what I've found, he doesn't have blood on his hands.
Biden?
Cuomo does.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, Biden... That I know of, I said.
adam crigler
That I know about.
tim pool
He was the VP of the Obama administration.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Like, they killed a bunch of people.
adam crigler
So, it's both of them, or is it Obama?
Because he was the president, he made the decisions.
tim pool
I'd have to say.
adam crigler
Both of them?
Or equally?
tim pool
Yeah, because, I mean, you could even argue it wasn't Obama, it was Hillary Clinton.
She was Secretary of State.
adam crigler
Well, I'll never vote for someone that is that blatantly red-handed.
tim pool
Trump's not perfect on war, man.
He's got drone strikes under his belt.
He's got missile strikes in Syria.
adam crigler
And what's he trying to do right now?
tim pool
Pull the troops out of Afghanistan.
And Germany.
And he's tried pulling them out of Syria.
And so that's why it's like, you know what, man, considering the weird, like, we look at this report from the Cato, I'm just like, you know what, I'm not 100%, but as I've stated before, if I can get somebody who's going to pull the troops out, then I would like to see that.
And so if you're running for Congress and your position is removal of troops, I'm going to look at your record.
And if it's there, I'm going to be like, okay, I don't care what your political party is.
However, I'm fairly confident that our congressperson here probably just said, keep the troops in.
These people, man, they're spineless, gutless, feckless, all these words.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is past ten.
That means you must smash the like button!
And you must smash the subscribe button.
And you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
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We'll do the show!
adam crigler
Please share.
Please share the video.
That really does help us out a lot, letting more people know about our show.
tim pool
Yeah, well, I'll put it this way, because promotion is the most important thing.
If you think that we offer a unique perspective, if we do a good job in discussing the things we discuss, then the best thing you could possibly do is just share this podcast with other people and let them know you like what we do.
The reason is we're never going to compete with CNN.
lydia smith
We can't.
tim pool
And so if you think CNN lies, and I certainly think they do, how do we compete with that massive marketing budget and those establishment interests?
adam crigler
We'll get there one day, Tim.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what CNN doesn't have.
CNN does not have loyal viewers who are going out and saying, guys, you've got to watch Brian Stelter, man.
It's the best show ever.
lydia smith
Seriously?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
I was going to say they don't have honest bones, but that works too.
tim pool
It's people in airports, waiting for their plane, staring at the screen.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's the difference about what we do.
There's something different and more personal about podcasting and about YouTube and all that stuff that I feel like what we do is much more important.
I feel like what Brian Stelter does and what Don Lemon does is kind of like a, I woke up today and what do I have to say to make money?
What we're doing is saying things like our civil rights are in jeopardy.
People are scared to speak their minds.
We need to do something about this.
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what.
I've been pretty harsh on people saying you gotta stand up and, you know, if at the very least you won't speak up, the least you can do is either share this or like or subscribe.
You know what?
It's at least something you can do, right?
And maybe we can be speaking more for the people who are too scared to.
You can actually just share a video and, hey, this is interesting.
adam crigler
And you know what?
If you're in the airport, there's Wi-Fi now.
lydia smith
Yeah, you can watch us there too.
adam crigler
Everyone's got smartphones.
tim pool
Yeah.
Just stop watching.
adam crigler
Watch our show there.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
With that being said, it is time for us to go to bed.
So thank you all so much for hanging out.
We will see you all... What is today, Wednesday?
adam crigler
Tomorrow is our 100th episode.
tim pool
I wonder what we're gonna do.
adam crigler
Well, actually, you know what?
I forgot.
We are going to finally Put her hand in the bucket of everyone's been sending us mail trying to get this one of the boards.
We got this one right here.
This is the last one to go out.
tim pool
Harumph board.
adam crigler
The last Harumph board and we're gonna give this away tomorrow.
Tomorrow we're going to do the drawing on our hundredth episode.
So that's kind of fun.
tim pool
We're gonna reach into a big old thing of people who sent us mail.
We're gonna pull out something and we're gonna send it to the person.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So that's basically over.
If you send us something now, it's probably too late.
However, if for some reason you want to send us stuff, you can go to TimCast.com slash donate.
At the bottom, you will find a P.O.
box.
Make sure you send it to TimCast IRL specifically, so that way we know it's for the show.
Yes.
And yeah, anything else before we go to bed?
Love you guys.
adam crigler
That's true.
We're here because of everyone that's here.
So I mean it wholeheartedly.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I appreciate our audience.
tim pool
They're going to start locking things down again.
They're reopening the PPP.
I think it's about to get really bad.
Look, man, it's political.
adam crigler
It's all political.
tim pool
Medals going up.
adam crigler
That's all.
I know we can't even, people are getting banned by talking about it.
So it's like, it's hard for me to even speak because I'm annoyed at it all.
tim pool
We'll be back tomorrow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
lydia smith
Bye, guys.
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