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July 15, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Trump Threatens Federal Action Over Unrest In Democrat Cities
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to tonight's episode of the TimCast IRL podcast.
I am proud to announce we have a very, very special guest.
I could not believe we pulled off this interview.
It's a surprise.
We didn't tell anybody, but sitting next to me is not Adam Krigler, in fact.
It is our current guest, former vice president and current, well, presumed Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
There he is.
Gently caressing that like button.
Joe, thanks for coming on the show.
Can you tell me what you want the audience to do?
unidentified
Biden that button.
tim pool
I don't know if anyone can hear you.
adam crigler
I can't wait to see what that looks like.
unidentified
Oh my god, I can see it!
adam crigler
Oh my goodness, that is great.
unidentified
Hey everybody.
I think that may be the stupidest thing we've ever done.
lydia smith
Don't worry, we'll stop it.
adam crigler
So someone sent us a big stand-up of the Biden and it came with that wonderful little cutout of his face and I couldn't resist.
tim pool
Did you see the video I put on Instagram?
adam crigler
I did, yeah.
tim pool
So we keep making jokes about how because we have this cardboard cutout of Joe Biden, that's really creepy.
So like in the middle of the night, you're going to get a glass of water from the sink and you like, at the corner of your eye, you see someone standing there and you look, ah, it's Joe Biden.
unidentified
Oh gosh.
tim pool
So I decided to film a funny video where I'm like, I walk in the studio, it's all dark.
I'm like, why are the lights turned off?
What's going on?
I heard a noise.
And then I look and I scream and it just cuts.
It's just Joe Biden standing there.
adam crigler
I needed a good laugh though, seriously man.
unidentified
For real.
tim pool
Joe Biden says smash that like button.
unidentified
Sniff it, smell it, caress that like button.
Look fat.
You gotta smash that like button.
adam crigler
Make the like button's hair stand on it's edge.
Too far?
unidentified
I got long blonde like buttons.
And the kids, they like to put their hands on it and press that like button.
tim pool
This is what we're going to do from now on to make sure everybody mashes the like button as hard as possible.
unidentified
We're getting weird props going on this show.
adam crigler
We're having a lot of fun.
I'm having fun anyway.
tim pool
We do have very serious news.
Trump threatening federal action on the Democrat-Liberal cities.
It's probably more of a passive comment, but considering what happened in Portland and how insane everything's getting, Yeah, maybe.
I mean, they've already called the Feds an occupying army.
We're just going to go through some of the press about how they're handling all this stuff.
There's another story.
The DNC and the RNC are basically going to ban... I don't know if they're going to ban, but they're warning people about not using TikTok.
adam crigler
Oh good.
tim pool
Because of Chinese spying stuff.
unidentified
Finally.
adam crigler
Finally.
tim pool
But we're just gonna talk about stuff, but I have good news too.
Before we get started on everything, ladies and gentlemen, Florbo has returned to the urban dictionary.
adam crigler
Florbo returns.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
With a more acceptable definition.
So first, actually, if you haven't subscribed, I know Joe Biden told you to smash the like button.
lydia smith
So you did.
tim pool
But Joe also wants you to subscribe to the channel too.
lydia smith
Oh gosh.
tim pool
He'll be back tomorrow.
lydia smith
He'll turn up behind you.
tim pool
Yeah, we do the show every Monday through Friday live at 8, but for those that saw the previous show where we talked about Urban Dictionary, they got woke.
Urban Dictionary, you gotta make sniffing noises while you do it.
Somebody mentioned when I was doing the Instagram joke, there should have been sniffing noises in the background, like echoing.
lydia smith
Oh, I could have totally done that.
tim pool
What's that?
unidentified
What the heck?
tim pool
What's this noise?
But we have some other ideas for funny bits.
But anyway, Urban Dictionary got woke, and there's a word that I use that is specifically designed to be non-offensive.
Florbo.
Let me explain this to you.
So first, Urban Dictionary said we're not going to be a platform for hate speech, so we're going to be, you know, considering this, and I don't know what that means.
Because Urban Dictionary is just, like, nothing but offensive words.
Right.
That's the point of it.
adam crigler
What does this offensive word mean?
I'll check Urban Dictionary.
tim pool
You know what?
There was a few things I wanted to say that I thought wouldn't be overtly offensive, but I figured some people, like, I don't want someone's kid to go, Dad, what does that mean?
And I have to be like, ooh, now I gotta explain that.
So I'm gonna avoid saying some of these things.
adam crigler
Good call.
tim pool
We are a family-friendly show, so we mention, instead of, we talk frequently about, say, like an instance where a bunch of jerks, mean people, have formed a big circle where they're all patting each other on the back.
A circle of jerks.
Not having to define what the actual phrase would be.
Anyway, that's what Urban Dictionary does.
So for them to start banning these words, It makes no sense.
Well, sure enough, Florbo got banned.
It got removed from Urban Dictionary.
To me, that's crazy.
I'll tell you why it's crazy.
Florbo was designed to be a neutral third party in the culture war, okay?
Listen, you have people who demand you use their pronouns, or use non-standard pronouns.
I mean, like, like, they, them, right?
But then you have conservatives saying, no, I will use the pronouns that are appropriate as I see, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, guys, guys, we need to come up with a word That I will make up, that won't be offensive to anybody, that no one will force anyone else to say.
The idea is, you can't make me say what, you know, what you want me to say, and I can't get mad because you're using the wrong pronoun?
Florbo.
adam crigler
Florbo.
tim pool
The point of Florbo is if you don't know what someone's identity is, you don't gotta say they, them, you don't gotta say the wrong pronoun, jeezer, whatever, you just say Florbo.
And it was, it was like, I'll be fair, I think it was like a half joke.
Like the idea was, if someone's gonna get offended that you said, that you're telling them to say they, and they're gonna be like, no, I won't use that pronoun, and someone else is gonna, going to get offended if you misgender them on an accident, then maybe the best thing you could do is just use a neutral word from a third party.
And so somebody made a definition, and the definition was actually a little bit more antagonistic to the left, like making fun of, I guess, Sam Smith or whatever.
It got banned.
And I was offended, because the word's specifically not offensive to anyone.
unidentified
It's the whole point.
tim pool
So there's two new definitions that were put in, and these are actually good.
Check this out.
The first one says, What someone may be called when their preferred pronouns are unknown to the speaker replaces he, him, she, her, them.
And there's an example.
Who is that over there?
It looks like Florbo is trying to climb that giant oak tree.
Yeah, it's just neutral.
It's just not meant to be an attack on anybody or anything like that.
But the one down here is actually really good.
It says, a term to refer to any person identifying as any identity, no identity, multiple identities, or any combination of the former without offending anyone.
So it says, Florbo is offended by being called Florbo without understanding that a Florbo is a catch-all term to refer to all Florbos.
We are all Florbo.
And if we are all Florbo, then no one should be offended by the term Florbo.
Does that make sense to Florbo now?
adam crigler
Boom!
tim pool
I really do like that.
lydia smith
That's great.
tim pool
It's like everybody is.
So don't be mad because I am as well.
adam crigler
Someone actually tweeted at me a couple days ago when we talked about this.
Maybe it was yesterday.
When did they strike it?
Was it yesterday?
I don't remember exactly.
Maybe it was last week.
But either way, someone hit me up and said, I actually just re-entered it into the database because you have to like send it to them and they have to approve it.
tim pool
Oh, they approved it.
adam crigler
So, this was actually someone who watches our show.
Potentially.
I don't know if this is exactly it, but if you're out there, you tweet it at me once, you can tweet at me again.
Tweet at me and let me know.
And that would be cool.
Because if it is, thank you.
tim pool
Wait, they approved this.
adam crigler
Urban Dictionary did.
Approved it.
I know.
tim pool
Boom.
unidentified
It's canon.
tim pool
There we go.
adam crigler
I'm fairly certain this is because this is directly from us talking about it.
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
No, but my thing is, Urban Dictionary, I thought you could just put whatever word you wanted in there.
You could just be like, Blaffler is a giant unicorn with laser eyes.
adam crigler
All hail Blafflor.
tim pool
Blafflor.
Vulciferon is a reference to mechanized cyborg furries or something.
You know what I mean?
I thought you could just make up words and just put it in.
I didn't think it had to be approved.
But considering they're getting woke, I guess they have to approve it now?
adam crigler
I guess so.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, that's a glorious endorsement of the word.
Indeed.
Yeah, Florbo, that's great.
Solid.
And as I was explaining before, I felt like You know, it's supposed to be a soft word.
Reminds me of Flubber from that Robin Williams movie.
Everybody loved Robin Williams.
Like, his movie was fun, his family was friendly.
It was meant to be a very fluffy, neutral, everybody can get along, let's lay down on a big ol' pile of beanbags and have a conversation.
But I have to imagine some people probably are still offended by it.
That's why I got removed in the first place.
But hopefully these are more acceptable.
adam crigler
I think so.
tim pool
Thank you, everybody.
Now that we've wasted, what, eight minutes of your time talking about this word.
adam crigler
Someone just tagged me and said, it's been in Rick and Morty for a while.
I think you're thinking of a plumbus.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody has a plan.
unidentified
Oh, no, no.
tim pool
Flerbo.
adam crigler
Flerbo.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Flerbo is different than Florbo.
lydia smith
Very different.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, like... It's close.
I think they use a bunch of gibberish words.
adam crigler
They do, yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, it's really hard to, you know, come up with a gibberish word.
But, uh, but I'm sure there's probably some subconscious, you know, thing.
I don't know.
Oh, flurbos are money.
I think flurbos are money.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, they're a currency.
adam crigler
Flurbo, though.
tim pool
Flurbo.
adam crigler
Not florbo.
tim pool
Yeah, florbo.
adam crigler
So, totally different.
O or er.
unidentified
Va.
adam crigler
Yeah, you get it.
tim pool
It would be like the difference of trying to explain someone who doesn't speak English, the difference between mister and my sister.
Because when you say it fast enough, a non-English speaker might be like, my sister?
Mister?
That sounds like almost the same word when you're speaking really fast.
It's actually something I've encountered, that's why I brought it up.
So, different words, different words.
Anyway, now that you've all had your time gloriously wasted... No, no, no.
adam crigler
Enlightened is the term you should have used there.
tim pool
We've brought you into a new world of understanding.
adam crigler
Florbo.
tim pool
Actually, to be fair though, there's a tweet from James Lindsay about math and postmodernism and stuff.
And he talks about how a lot of the arguments made by the woke left are just to confuse an issue.
It's interesting.
There's a comic going around where two people are talking about 2 plus 2 equaling 4 and how that's not a true statement.
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
It equals five now, right?
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
That's what they're trying to say.
tim pool
Their argument is it can equal anything and that your understanding is skewed.
And this is actually really dangerous in my opinion.
It seems like the goal of a lot of these activists is to create tribalism to an extreme degree.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So some activists posted, people are attacking me for claiming two plus two equals five.
How can this be a true statement?
And then all of a sudden a bunch of posts emerged.
So what they tried doing is, in this comic, it shows two black people, they're like cartoon characters, they're like stick figures, talking.
And one of them says, uh, 2 plus 2 is always 4.
And the other person says, I'm concerned about your use of the word always, because that implies, like, absolutes, which is not true, blah blah blah.
And then the person says, 2 apples plus 2 oranges does not equal 4 apples.
But the problem was that that's a non-standard equation.
They're trying to confuse you into making you think that since variables exist, basic formulas are improper.
They're trying to make you just not understand basic math.
I've heard this argument so many times from people who want to sound like they're smart.
Actually, 2 plus 2 could be 10 in base 4.
If only you actually understood and you were as smart as me.
That's basically what they're doing.
Sure.
So this comic ends up going viral and James Lindsay points out that a lot of these things you hear are attempts to confuse people and like shatter non-standard understandings of reality.
I'm probably, you know, going into a little bit more deeply than he did in his tweet.
But I think that's true with a lot of the identity claims.
About what people dress as, how they call themselves.
It's more of an asserting power.
It's like Karening almost when you're like, you think two plus two equals four.
Let me explain to you.
You don't even know what binary is, do you?
No.
So then you end up with, you know, kind of weird words and weird definitions.
And I think what's particularly dangerous about it is that it's really rooted in people trying to feel like they're special.
They want to know that they're smart.
They want to convince you they're smart.
They want to contribute, honestly.
They want to be a part of something.
adam crigler
Everybody does.
tim pool
So when you say something like, you know, what goes up must come down, well.
Actually, you're only referring to within microgravity, and they start giving off
explanations because...
unidentified
Technically, up in the universe could be any direction.
tim pool
Oh, you see, there you go.
adam crigler
So it depends on the rotation of the earth, too, because you can go up when you're on
this side and then you'd be going in the same direction going down when you're on
the other side.
tim pool
And think about how stupid it is for someone to actually assert something as
I'm sorry, you're very dumb.
Let me explain.
See, in outer space, there is no up.
And besides, even if there was, you could throw something to the right, but if the planet was to your left, it would go from right to left.
So what goes right must go left?
How stupid are you?
adam crigler
No, the sky is blue, Tim.
The sky is blue.
tim pool
Actually, the sky is black.
What you're referring to is the reflection of particles in the atmosphere that are absorbing certain spectrum of the visible spectrum.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Well, we're having fun, aren't we?
tim pool
Now that we've wasted more of your time.
unidentified
More time.
adam crigler
What are we talking about, Tim?
tim pool
10 plus 10 equals 1,010.
Somebody posted something like that.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Oh, nice.
tim pool
We're actually going to be talking about Trump and federal enforcement.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And look, man, I'm getting really, really sick and tired of this news cycle.
I think the Democrats are panicking, and panicking maybe isn't the right word for it.
Yep.
I think the Democrats are probably in full-on mental breakdown over the fact
that they are losing support from the black community.
As referenced by that documentary we talked about the other day.
adam crigler
I think from the entire community, not just.
tim pool
Well, Rasmussen has Trump's support at 41% among all likely black voters.
adam crigler
Oh wow.
tim pool
To see the sheer level of racial news to me is like, like.
It is insane.
The CDC.
1,200 employees demanding they declare racism a public health crisis?
adam crigler
What?
Like, what?
tim pool
What?
What is this?
This news cycle is just absolutely ridiculous.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Like, it's everything taken up.
I would say taken up to 11, but it's like 50.
It's like they ripped the knob off.
Every story, I look up on, you know, now the top story is that Donald Trump said when he was asked about Black Lives Matter, he says, what about white people who get killed?
And now all of a sudden, here we go.
adam crigler
How dare you make this about another?
It's like, OK, well, what about the statistics that that's true?
Because that is true.
He wasn't wrong.
tim pool
It's like they're trying to tear... I think it's because they know they're not offering anything tangible to minority voters.
Not just the black community, but Latinos, Asians.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
And Trump is, in the polls, gaining.
And that means he wins.
And I wonder if... They talk about how the polls are unable to capture non-college educated whites.
I wonder how effective the polls are at capturing the black community vote.
If these are communities that were taken for granted by all political parties for a long time, regardless Republican and Democrat, then I don't know if the pollsters can effectively track these demographic changes, like the rise of the black conservative and stuff like that.
And then we might be seeing these polls.
What may be skewing the polls Yeah.
is that they may be all true.
Trump is losing support among certain white voters, so Biden is leading,
but the polls may be ignoring certain minority communities because they've never had to poll in this way before.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
So Trump could actually be way up, and we're gonna see something like we saw in 2016,
when the polls were all saying Hillary was gonna win, the probability said she was gonna win,
and then afterwards they went, well, we knew we couldn't actually survey these,
you know, non-college educated white people, so we didn't realize how wrong we were gonna be.
adam crigler
You know, you just said something too, the rise of the black conservative.
That's inaccurate.
It's actually the return of the black conservative.
Because a lot of the black conservatives are the ones that were really making the leaps and bounds in civil rights in our history.
So they were prevalent.
tim pool
I think it's I think it's the I don't know what it is.
I don't know.
Maybe it's that people are becoming less.
Some people are too scared to speak up.
Some people are less scared to speak up.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what's interesting, too, about the arguments?
I've been talking about this a lot about people refusing to speak up is that there are so many people who have found success in speaking out.
There are people who have been cancelled who have turned it into a career.
There have been people who weren't even cancelled but started saying unpopular things and found their audience.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
And there are people who are hiding in their closet hoping that when the Reaper comes to their door, they'll be the one house he just skips over.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Sorry, it's not gonna work that way.
adam crigler
Well, I'm certainly speaking up.
I'm exhausted, mentally exhausted from the amount of re-explaining I have to do because it's really hard to just simply say, oh sure, here's all of the five months of research that I've been doing and the hundreds of hours that I've had with you on this show and outside of the show that we talk about things that are going on.
It's like, how do I quantify all that in just a simple response on Facebook?
Why are you voting for him?
tim pool
You can't do that on Facebook.
adam crigler
No, I know, and that's, that's, and, but, but it's, it's not about Facebook,
because now I've had certain people reach out to me outside of Facebook.
Hey, talk to me about what, what, what is it about him that you like?
Why are you voting?
Why are you voting like that?
And those few people, people on Twitter are like, dude, just don't worry about him.
There's going to be haters.
And it's like, no, we have to talk.
We have to speak up.
We've been talking about it.
We have to have these conversations.
I'm civil, and some of them don't agree with me.
And some of them are like, you know what?
That's fine.
I'm still not going to vote for Trump, but I'm glad we had this conversation.
It's like, yes!
I'm not trying to sway anyone, but I'm sick of the lies that I'm seeing and I'm calling them out.
And that's kind of why I wanted to have that conversation.
tim pool
You know, I grew up with all of these people saying the war was bad, protesting war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And now here we are.
And when I actually asked one of my friends who's like same age as me, Chicago liberal.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Would you support pulling out the troops from Afghanistan?
adam crigler
Yes, of course.
Right.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
There's like a. Oh, wait a minute.
adam crigler
Oh, is this a trap?
tim pool
I know what Tim thinks.
And so the response is no longer.
We must pull out.
The response is now.
Well, maybe, but, and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Do you have an original thought in your brain?
Look, man, you can complain about all the worst things in the world from Obama, from Trump, from anybody, but if you have stood on this hill that we should not be in the Middle East, and Trump says, okay, I'll pull out of the Middle East, you can't all of a sudden be like, well, no, actually, I think.
No, you say.
All right, well, you know, OK, I'll take it, I guess.
adam crigler
Someone asked me the other day, why are they pulling against the troops?
And that's why I asked you yesterday.
And it's like the war machine, the Russia contracts, all these things.
And I'm like, I've looked into it and I still have yet to find a nice, legitimate answer.
tim pool
There is so much to break down in terms of the actions being taken in the Middle East.
But the first thing you can say, you can look at a map and see that Iraq and Afghanistan are on both sides of Iran.
And John Bolton, who was advising Trump for a while and then got outed and then turned on, that was a mistake.
He wanted to invade Iran.
And so it has a lot to do with oil.
It has a lot to do with resources.
adam crigler
Of course it does.
tim pool
It has a lot to do with regional power.
It has a lot to do with competing for natural resources.
So there's this big international... Isn't it always?
adam crigler
Right?
tim pool
I mean, it's energy.
Energy equals expansion.
Expansion equals, you know, cultural expansion.
And so we're competing with China and a bunch of other interests to expand.
And China is rapidly gaining ground.
So I can't tell you what they want from Iran.
Maybe it has to do with defending Israel, controlling the region.
You know, Israel is constantly under threat, and the U.S.
is definitely trying to stabilize.
There's a lot of reasons.
I'm sure there's a lot of people who just do it for money.
I'm sure there's a lot of people who do it for ideological reasons, a lot of people who do it for strategic reasons, for dominance around the world.
But in the end, there's a lot of people in this country who are sick of it.
and have wanted for a long time.
First of all, we should have never gone over there and now want us to return.
How is it that there are people who are now serving in the military
who were born after we invaded?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
You know, that's the craziest thing to me.
Or at least that's like a talking point to say like, we are now at that point.
But Trump comes along and I'm sitting here and like, my position's long been like,
one of the only things I really care about first before we can move on
is bringing our soldiers home and not being this invading force
in these foreign countries.
And then everything just stops when Trump goes, okay.
And I'm like, wait, what?
He's like, yeah.
And I'm like, wait.
Wait, you're actually gonna do it?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's something that I've been saying for a long time.
We gotta stop the war machine and stop being the world police.
Almost every single person I know that is arguing with me now has felt that way.
tim pool
But they flip and now they support being the world police?
adam crigler
Well, I mean, you can't have a rational conversation, so I've never got there.
I haven't been able to even get to that point in the conversation.
You know, I listed all of the things that I've found that are good that he's done, and that's on there.
That's like one of the things.
And they're just like, eh, that's not good enough.
He's friends with Nazis.
And I'm like, what?
Where are you getting your information?
So I simply just said, now's when you show me your source.
And I have yet to hear back.
But I'm not going to not have a civil conversation.
I'm not going to become emotional.
I want to have all the facts.
I'm laying them all out.
I'm going to continue doing so.
tim pool
These people who think that we're the empire from Star Wars.
They think that America is the worst imperial foreign invading country.
Okay, well, you've got your choice of Biden, who was part of the Obama administration, working with Hillary Clinton and exacerbating these problems.
And you have Donald Trump, who is being blocked as he tries to bring the troops back.
I voted for Obama the first time, not the second time, because he was like, we're going to bring our troops home.
And then he gets in and he's like, more troops!
And then they started blowing up kids and civilians and calling them enemy combatants and stuff.
Oh, they're military age.
You know, that's good enough for us.
And so I was like, yeah, right.
I'm not going to fall for this again.
And I did not vote 2012.
I did not vote in 2016.
And I'm at a point where, for one, yeah, cancel culture, PC culture, the weird intersectionalism freaks me out.
But then Trump's like, even though I didn't vote for him, he's talking about bringing our troops back.
And I'm like, OK.
He didn't promise me to do anything.
I didn't vote for him.
adam crigler
Hold on.
tim pool
He's literally just doing something.
adam crigler
He's not just saying we gotta bring our troops home.
He's going into detail.
We need to stop being the world police.
We need to focus on our infrastructure, making our roads better, helping our minority communities, which he is doing.
And it's like, how are they ignoring that now?
This is one of the biggest reasons why I thought I didn't like him.
Because I didn't think that he was for that.
Because I didn't actually listen.
To the right people.
To the right things.
To the actual policies that he was putting forth.
tim pool
Here's what I'm saying.
When Obama made me that promise.
Like, we're gonna do all these great things.
We're gonna bring our troops back.
And I was like, I like what he's selling.
I'm gonna buy.
unidentified
Vote.
tim pool
And then what did he do?
One of the first things he did was he bombed a village of women and children looking for an enemy combatant or something.
And I was like, that's not what I paid for.
I mean that metaphorically, not literally.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I come into a shop and I say, one slice of pepperoni pizza.
You give me some weird, you know, veggie tofu stuff.
I'm gonna be like, hey, hey, whoa, I get it.
Some people might want you, you know, to do certain things, but that's not what I asked for.
That's not what you promised me.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I didn't vote for Trump.
I actually, I laughed when he won and I didn't care.
I'm like, yeah, well, you know what?
I was totally disenfranchised.
Disaffected.
Now Trump's being, they're resisting him trying to bring the troops back and I'm like, that's the biggest thing to me.
I don't, I don't care about anything else.
It's like, well, what about Trump and his very fine people?
I don't care.
Wait, wait, hold on.
You, you, you think that because Trump said naughty words, I'm supposed to not support the idea that we're going to pull our imperialistic Star Wars Stormtrooper troops out of the Middle East?
adam crigler
Back home?
Bring them back to their families?
tim pool
You think this is the empire from Star Wars?
You think that it's better for Joe Biden to get in and send more people over there just so he can say nice words to you?
Trump could go on a foul-mouthed tirade for five hours, cussing, using every slur in the book, and then if he said, and after all that, here's an executive order, I am ordering all the troops to return tomorrow, I'd be like, okay.
I don't care what he said, because, you know, he's doing it, he's trying to do it now.
That's why I kind of feel like his promises are meaningless.
If he said, trust me, re-elect me and I'll do it, I'd be like, yeah, right.
I'm not buying it.
adam crigler
But he's straight up doing it.
tim pool
And so I'm like, I want to help him do that.
I want to end that.
I don't like that.
I've never liked that.
And I've actually been to, you know, I was in Egypt during the revolution.
I don't pretend like I was in Afghanistan or Iraq or anything like that.
But I've covered a lot of this national security news for a decade, and I understand a lot of the complexities of it.
I've heard the debates.
And I just can't square away what we do over there with my morals and my ethics.
And along comes a president who, without asking, without telling me, like, I need your vote to do this, he just started doing it.
And I'm like, oh.
adam crigler
yeah and and that a few different people were were like yelling at me for for supporting a nazi supporter basically and i'm like what is this from and it all boiled down to that one fake speech and i was like okay I wasn't paying attention then.
I'll go look at the speech, and I'll listen to what he's saying.
And I did.
And the very first thing out of his mouth, I do not condone any neo-Nazis.
They should all, like, go away.
tim pool
They should be condemned totally.
adam crigler
They should be condemned totally.
Period.
And then he moves on, and they're like, well, what about the people that were there?
And he's like, I'm sure not everybody there was a neo-Nazi.
They were against the statues coming down.
tim pool
He was right.
adam crigler
And I was like, okay, that makes sense to me.
And he was talking about the people that Specifically, we're not the neo-Nazi.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
How come the right didn't go, Trump just defended Antifa?
Trump is defending Marxist and violent communists!
Did you hear him when he said there's very fine people on both sides?
adam crigler
On both sides.
tim pool
That was Trump defending neo-Marxists?
adam crigler
I guess so.
tim pool
Communists?
Violent authoritarians?
adam crigler
No, it's the other way.
It doesn't go both ways, Tim.
It doesn't go both ways.
tim pool
Exactly.
Politics flows in one direction.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
To the left.
Well, away from the left.
So if you are seen in a video with a guy wearing a MAGA hat and you're smiling and giving a thumbs up, they'll be like, Adam's a Trump supporter now.
adam crigler
Wait till I actually put on a MAGA hat.
tim pool
But then wait, but then wait.
If you're caught in a photo standing next to Antifa giving a thumbs up, they'll go, that Antifa guy is a Trump supporter now.
Get it?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's only one direction.
So when Trump says both sides had good people, the media doesn't say Trump defends communists.
They say Trump defends Nazis, even though he didn't.
In fact, hold on, hold on.
Trump, I dare say, that's a new t-shirt we need to make, I dare say, Donald Trump condemned the Nazis.
Did Donald Trump in that speech condemn communists?
He did not.
Therefore, it is more apt to say Donald Trump actually defended communists as very fine people.
It makes more sense.
adam crigler
Because if you actually go through his speech... Yeah, that's true, because he actually condemned the neo-Nazis.
lydia smith
Specifically.
adam crigler
That's true.
That's the only people that he did condemn in that speech.
tim pool
I am not.
I think Trump lacks tact.
I don't like his behavior.
He mocked a reporter getting body slammed.
I'm not a fan of these journalists and everything like that, but there's a certain demeanor that I expect of the office of the president, and that's why I've never been a big fan of Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah, his tact is not the best.
tim pool
I don't care.
adam crigler
I'll be the first to admit that, you know, sure.
And it totally played into the story, you know, the whole narrative that Orange Man bad, you know, because he's, he is not a politician.
He is a showboater and he loves attention.
That's obvious.
tim pool
And I, I look, I, I, I, I have more disdain for the media than him.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they lie about him all the time.
adam crigler
So does most of the general public, doesn't it?
tim pool
But Trump said something.
I want to make sure I'm getting this right, but I vaguely remember him saying something like, I'm a mean guy, but I work for you.
And so that I found funny.
I also really loved when he was like, I ran for office one time.
He became president of the United States.
He is a funny guy.
He's funny.
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Well, he toyed with the idea for a long time, though.
tim pool
I think he knows what he's doing.
I gotta be completely honest.
I don't like him.
He's funny.
There's some things that I like he's doing.
I'm willing to vote for him, mostly because of the war stuff.
And also because this guy here is nuts.
Joe Biden is just ridiculous.
adam crigler
What scares me more about this guy is who's behind this guy.
tim pool
The administration.
The establishment.
adam crigler
Exactly.
That's right.
tim pool
I'm in this position where there's a lot of moderate individuals, intellectual dark web types or whatever they call them, where it's like there's a lot of reasons to be upset about this cycle.
And for me, for the longest time, I've been like, I mean, last year I was like, I'm never voting for Trump.
It's like, look, I get it.
I get the culture, all this stuff.
But listen, there really is the character issues and integrity issues, tact issues, arrogance, ego.
But you know what?
I don't care about any of that.
If it comes down to him signing that order to bring our troops back, and he's been trying to, and they're blocking him and they're smearing him.
And so I'm sitting here saying, you know what?
We got about, we got less than four months.
I want to see if he actually takes some very substantive action.
I will gladly walk in there and be like, yep, stamp right on that line.
Because the way I see it is, what is Joe Biden going to get us?
Under Obama, the racial tensions were escalating.
adam crigler
The violence was- Chinese rule.
tim pool
I mean, potentially.
It's just, I'm talking about all of the problems we face today.
Could Joe Biden snap his fingers and make COVID go away?
Of course not.
adam crigler
But it'll happen.
tim pool
And Andrew, well, we joke about it.
But look, Andrew Cuomo caused all those problems.
And Murphy.
And Murphy.
And there were problems in Connecticut.
The tri-state was a disaster.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So if Biden was president, would that change?
No, of course not.
Would the riots have changed?
No.
What could Joe Biden do to prevent the George Floyd incident?
Was he going to magically, like, parachute in as it was happening and say, halt, I'm Super Biden to stop this because I'm psychic?
No.
It would have happened.
adam crigler
And I'm totally not racist.
tim pool
Now it's possible that the media wouldn't have gone nuts with it and they'd simmer down because the orange man bad narrative is cash, cash money for these businesses.
But I think you bring in Biden and you get more of Obama.
And a lot of people are going to laugh right now and go, but we liked Obama.
That's fine.
That's fine.
If you, if you like the, the wrapping of the authorization for use of military force in the Middle East, that's fine.
If you like the indefinite detention provisions under the NDAA.
the extrajudicial assassinations of American citizens, the killing of women and children,
the use of the Espionage Act. I can make, I can go on for a really long time. I know you can.
I don't want this guy to come back and bring back his stupid nonsense.
Yeah. And so I look at Trump and I'm kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. The economy was good. I get it.
But then the Afghanistan thing happens. They're, they're now trying to accuse, you know,
Russia was putting a bounty on soldiers. And I'm like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Okay. It's all right. It's been disputed. But you mean to tell me that the Taliban that already
wants to kill American soldiers needed help, needed incentives to do it? Shut up.
adam crigler
Yeah. Someone was giving me a hard time about that. Like trying to convince me
that that was the case. And I just kept asking for sources.
unidentified
No, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
You just say, wow, really?
Oh man, we should definitely bring them back.
adam crigler
We should bring them home.
unidentified
Yeah, we better bring them back before they get hurt, because you agree, right?
tim pool
Trump's not going to help them, right?
Yeah, we better bring them all home.
Imagine what we can do if all that energy we put over there, and truth be told, we have reduced our forces over there substantially, especially under Trump.
I think there's like 8,600 or so remaining, I'm not entirely sure.
But imagine if we took all of those people and said, here's Flint, we need to refit all these pipes and get that lead out there, clean that water.
adam crigler
Yeah, how about that?
tim pool
How about that?
adam crigler
Guys, that sounds great.
lydia smith
So we're talking about this.
This just came up.
The Pentagon says the U.S.
has withdrawn from five bases in Afghanistan after the Taliban agreement.
unidentified
Just so you know.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying, dude.
adam crigler
Making it happen.
tim pool
I didn't ask Trump to do anything for what I think needs to happen.
adam crigler
But you know what happened, though, right?
tim pool
He just did it.
adam crigler
No, he is straight up.
What time is it?
unidentified
830?
adam crigler
He's watching the show right now.
lydia smith
It's true.
It was 15 minutes ago.
adam crigler
Executive order.
We're gonna name this one.
You get the pool move.
tim pool
No, no, no.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
He's watching the show on his phone, and he's like sitting in the Oval Office.
He's like, so these city liberal guys, they want us.
adam crigler
That Adam guy, he's alright.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
He's gonna do like a rally.
He's gonna be like, Adam Krigler!
I was watching this show.
It's the best podcast.
Dimcast IRL.
This guy, he says, I'm gonna vote for Trump.
Good man.
adam crigler
I mean, to be honest, crazy things have happened to me like this.
I'm not joking.
tim pool
A lot of people watching the show or whatever.
adam crigler
Just my life has been one amazing thing after another.
So, you know, I'm lucky.
I'm a lucky person.
tim pool
Well, maybe we're in a simulation and you're the main character.
So when the Civil War breaks out, whoever's actually running the game is going to be playing you and you're going to be running into a wall like stationary and like spinning in circles and jumping for no reason.
Yeah, but I think I've beaten the point to death.
But it's like, it's a weird feeling, living through Obama, where he made a promise and then broke that promise.
That's a serious promise.
And it was hope and change.
And then for me to be like, I'm not voting for that guy.
I'm not going to vote for him or her.
And now Trump's like, I'm withdrawing troops from these bases.
And I'm kind of like, I didn't even ask him to do it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know?
adam crigler
You literally just said it, though, like 10 minutes ago.
That's why I'm like, I'm suspect.
tim pool
Thanks for watching the show. What's up president? He makes a phone call. Mr. President. Hello sir.
Get our troops out of Afghanistan so that the liberals are happy. It's the weirdest thing to me.
adam crigler
Operation the pool's closed. Oh, pool out. That's chat though. I'm watching you chat.
tim pool
You guys are great. They say things like, they say things like,
there's security reasons we don't know.
That's why we're over there.
And if we leave, there's a power vacuum and all that stuff.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And I just... I'm sorry, man.
You know, if you're concerned about the expansion of these foreign powers in a power vacuum in the Middle East, why aren't you concerned about the death of the middle class, the loss of the manufacturing base, and all these other things that Trump has addressed as well?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And that's why I'm kind of looking at this like...
I'm not even—my focus was never even like, are we going to bring our factories back?
It was never a part of my, you know, my worldview.
Because I didn't work—I worked in media and journalism.
But covering a lot of these things, I was like, the Middle East was the biggest blunder, and I blame Bush.
It was reactive, it was stupid.
I think they used 9-11 as an excuse, and now Trump's doing something.
I can't make the president do anything.
I can't make Biden do anything.
I can't make Obama do anything.
All I know is right now, I have one vote, and if Biden gets in, he'll do 50 billion things I don't like.
If Trump gets in, he'll do 50 billion things I don't like.
Okay, well at least I'll get one thing that's extremely important.
Extremely important.
It's almost like that one move of bringing the troops back and ending this ridiculous BS occupational war, whatever you want to call it, is worth a hundred votes, a thousand votes.
You know, Trump can go in there and say he's going to end cancel culture with, you know, a strong executive order, Section 230 reform, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are things that are important to me.
But it's like, for every one key wedge issue, you have 10,000, you know, points towards how bad the war is.
adam crigler
So, Mr. President.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
If you're listening.
Reform 230.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
Huge.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
It's really important for the freedom of speech for the future.
Very important.
End the war on drugs.
tim pool
Definitely legalize at the federal level, remove marijuana from, what is it, Schedule 1?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Is it Schedule 1?
lydia smith
I think it's Schedule 1 narcotics, yeah.
tim pool
That's insane.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Schedule 1 is nuts.
I'll tell you what, let's create a review board that goes through every single non-violent conviction and then grants, what do you think, pardon or commute?
If you're pardoned, you're not a felon.
If you're commuted, you're free to go, but you're still a convict.
adam crigler
I think pardon then.
Full pardon.
Yeah, because if we're making it legal, then it wasn't a crime.
tim pool
One of the concerns is that people say that some people may have pleaded down.
adam crigler
Okay, so those are the cases that will be communed then, maybe.
tim pool
Commute?
Well, if somebody's a violent murderer, but they caught them on drug charges and they know and they have good suspicion, my position was innocent until proven guilty if the state didn't make their case.
But it is still fair to say the state may have walked away from more serious violence charges if they knew they would get harsher drug charges.
adam crigler
I mean, the whole crime bill thing that I was learning about, it's like that prevents Felons or anyone actually it specifically states if you are
incarcerated at all in the American in the American system anywhere
You are not allowed to further yourself. You can't get a degree and I think that is ridiculous that needs to be repealed
immediately I'll tell you what I'll do and that's part. Well, that's
part of what we're talking about though right now It's like for those people if they are in there, it should
be about becoming a better person and and and getting a degree
And they stopped that back in 1994.
And that was Biden, by the way.
If who did that?
tim pool
Before election day.
Donald Trump withdraws our troops from Afghanistan.
I don't think we have that many left in Iraq anyway.
I think it's only a few hundred.
So, ideally both.
And he pardons non-violent marijuana-related offenses.
I'll put on a MAGA hat.
adam crigler
Oh, you'll wear a MAGA hat?
tim pool
If he does that!
adam crigler
That's a bold move.
tim pool
That's because you can't deny it at that point.
adam crigler
You can't, I know.
tim pool
All of these people who are locked up for something as dumb as pot, All of the people we have in the Middle East who should not be there, our soldiers, should be brought back home.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
Those are two groundbreaking, historic moves that could be made.
I would absolutely just be like, absolutely, Trump.
Absolutely.
You do those things.
That's just me, though.
And so, you know, I always want to make it clear, like, I don't know what other people want.
I don't know what other people need for their lives.
adam crigler
I know a lot of people out there just want freedom.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
They want to live their lives.
And I'm pretty sure that's most of the country.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know either.
Trump has the ability to remove marijuana from us from the scheduling
system yeah I don't know that might have to be Congress I'm not sure but I know
he can probably issue an executive order instructing no more enforcement of you
know federal marijuana laws yeah it would go down to the states but even if
he did that and then all of these non-violent offenders on marijuana
charges yeah we're pardoned and that was a lot of people that's a lot yeah I'd
I'd put up a banner.
And troops in the Middle East, I'd probably, man, I don't even know how to describe it.
I'd probably put up a flag or something.
But I gotta imagine, that's like, I'm talking about winning the lottery.
I don't think that'll ever happen.
I don't think Trump would do that.
adam crigler
I don't know.
He's doing a lot for the minority communities.
People keep trying to claim that he's a racist, and I'm just like, until you know how much he has done for the minority communities in this country, you're not allowed to say that to me anymore.
Because all I hear is that you are ignorant of what he's actually done.
Because I know what he's done.
I've looked at his policies.
I have a thread on my page right now.
I'm like, what do I not know?
What has he done that you know that you like?
And there is hundreds of comments, and it is countless stuff.
That's just incredible that he's done for our country.
I haven't just read the thread and been like, oh, that sounds great.
I've took each individual thing, Cross-checked it, read the actual bills that he put out, and they are impressive.
So if you think he's racist, go look at what he's done for the minority communities, and then talk to me.
tim pool
The media's go-to for Republican presidents is racism.
And it's partly because... You're right.
That's the issue they use to make sure... They want to convince minority voters not to be... It was in that documentary.
They talked about it.
They tell you this.
They told Kanye that if he didn't support them, he would lose his career and things like that.
adam crigler
Yeah, and that's when he blew up and had mental issues.
And it's like, I listened to his speech.
I'm calling it a speech, but it was his rant before the show.
And it was just him telling people to wake up and do their own research that they're being lied to.
And it's like, hmm, sounds like he was just trying to make it rain red pills because he was standing up on a platform too.
So no wonder they tried to shut him down.
tim pool
One way they get him is that he just blurts things out all the time.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And sometimes you're like, what did he just say?
Like, I can't, what?
It's confusing.
And it's almost like, you know, The Intercept.
It's really funny.
The Intercept is very progressive and they rag on Trump all the time, but they called him the most honest president in the history of the United States.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he's got no filter.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
But he does lie about, like, they point out that he's dishonest about things that are kind of weird.
About, like, personal issues and ego issues.
So if he feels slighted, he'll be like, I have the biggest numbers!
Nobody has bigger numbers than me!
And they're like, why?
No, that's like, you know.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, I know a lot about him and I'm going to save it.
I'm actually going to do a deep dive on him this Saturday with Ian on my show, AdamCastIRL.
So if you would like to come check that out, I'm going to I'm going to dive deep into who Donald Trump is, what he's done.
We're going to go nuts.
So this Saturday, 8 p.m., you can check it out.
Adam Kast, IRL.
Go ahead.
tim pool
It feels like the very famous moment I bring up all the time, because the Intercept referenced this, was when he's being asked by a journalist and he goes, we're going to do a great weapons deal with Saudi Arabia.
They're going to buy tons of our weapons.
It's great for the economy.
And all of the progressive anti-war people are just like, What?
He just said it.
You're not supposed to say that.
He didn't care.
But then it's like when it comes to ratings and stuff.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
He'll be like, I'm the biggest and the best.
And people like point out like, that's not true.
Why is he lying about that?
Like his ego stuff is weird.
But then he'll just be open and honest about these other weird things.
Like he's not supposed to.
I don't know, man.
Look, you know, I think the important thing to bring up to a lot of people who are big fans of Trump is that when you're having a discussion with somebody on the left, you really need to understand they have a deep, visceral reaction of disgust when they see him, when they hear his name.
And you're not arguing against facts.
You're basically telling someone to imagine a giant ball of mucus, blood and pus pulsating, that disgust that they feel.
That's a raw emotion that's very hard to overcome because their view has been shaped by... It's not just the media lying.
Trump has tact problems.
adam crigler
Yes, he does.
tim pool
He just blurts things out and it makes it really easy to come after him.
And ego problems, which, you know, it's like... He puts his name and big gold letters on top of buildings.
lydia smith
Could have seen it coming.
tim pool
It's true.
So I'll tell you what, man.
I would never consider myself to be a supporter of the man, a Trump supporter.
But if he pardoned all the nonviolent marijuana related offenses and stuff, I'd be like, that'd be shocking.
lydia smith
I just learned something about marijuana that I actually didn't know.
So it is a Schedule 1, you're correct.
That's crazy.
Yeah, so this is something that they consider to have no medical value.
I'll just leave that there.
It is considered more of a problem than cocaine and methamphetamine.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
Also just so you know.
Yeah, this is how they class it.
tim pool
That's ridiculous.
lydia smith
Absolutely insane.
tim pool
That's ridiculous, man.
adam crigler
I was trying to find who said this and I'm kind of bummed that I don't have it pulled up.
I read it earlier today and it was someone was just responding to a long conversation on Twitter and basically it was saying the left just sees anyone on the right that's not on the left as evil.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Just complete evil.
And they can't even get along with them because they're just evil.
But someone who's not on the far left can tolerate the people on the left because they don't see them as evil.
They see them as misinformed.
tim pool
Right.
The right thinks the left is misguided, the left thinks the right is evil.
adam crigler
It's a big difference.
tim pool
It's really crazy how hateful some of my friends have become.
It's like watching an anger machine.
adam crigler
I can say the same thing, Tim.
tim pool
It's scary.
It's sad.
There are people that I used to really, really respect because they've always been very progressive, but they've always been very Socratic.
Trying to have conversations and be open, inviting, and now they've become rageaholics.
They just want to scream.
I don't know, there's a viral video of a bunch of women stripping their clothes off and then screaming and just groaning and screaming.
What's that gonna do?
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm cringing because I watched it.
tim pool
And there's pictures and you're just like, what is this?
lydia smith
I'm 75% straighter.
unidentified
What is?
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
You know what, man?
Every day I wake up, the first thing I think is, today's gonna be a good day.
Guess what?
It is.
Because it's like, the sun is shining.
You know what I think when it's a nice sunny day?
Oh, it's a nice sunny day.
Oh, it's pretty warm.
Well, I'll get all nice and sweaty on that skate.
Love getting all sweaty.
You know what I think when it's raining?
Oh, no, I think I can't skate today.
No, nice, nice rain.
I guess I guess get a day off from skating.
I'll chill out, you know, the flowers, flowers will grow tomorrow.
The point is, I don't, I don't look at the rain as a problem, right?
When it's raining, I'm like, Oh, cool.
Finally, a storm.
And you're like, look out the window and you're like, wow.
It's like, what's your worldview?
For me, no matter what the weather's like, it's an awesome, it's wow.
You know, hey, these things happen.
I'm alive, I'm here, I'm gonna make the best of it.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
But these people are becoming infected with a demoralization mind virus.
adam crigler
Everything is awful.
tim pool
Everything is awful.
It's too hot.
It's so hot.
Now it's raining and I'm wet.
adam crigler
Like you were talking about with Florbo.
Yeah.
They can't even be, they're mad at that.
tim pool
They banned Florbo from, someone brought it back.
Right.
adam crigler
That's not even enough.
tim pool
It's like because they want to be angry.
So that if you try, even if you try and find a solution, they'll find some way to be angry.
This is why they attack themselves and each other.
It's true.
That's why I tell people there is no staying safe.
There is, you know, it's really funny.
Imagine like, imagine the scenario.
Zombies are rampaging through the city, eating everybody's brains.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And someone's like, well, as long as I don't yell at the zombies, they won't eat my brains.
It's like, but they're eating everyone's brains.
They're not going to ignore you for any reason.
adam crigler
In their logic, though, they are condoning people eating branch.
tim pool
It reminds me, you know, it reminds me of it's like a shot of the dead, how they cover
themselves in guts.
And yeah, and then they start going, oh, like, how did the zombies know?
It's so hilarious.
But like, is that the goal is how people are doing?
Maybe.
So the CDC, I covered the story earlier today, has 1200 employees on a letter demanding that
they declare racism to be a public health crisis.
I don't even know what that means.
You mean to tell me the CDC has 1,200 people who all agreed with that?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I think a good portion are Shaun of the Dead people rubbing the guts all over them and going, I'm a zombie too!
Don't bite me!
adam crigler
Look how woke I am!
lydia smith
I don't have a brain.
tim pool
I'll sign it.
I bet it was one or two people.
They're like, will you sign our pledge?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Sign.
Now please don't attack me.
And now you end up with 1,200 signatures.
Yeah.
Somebody tweeted at me saying, I've got a family and I've got to keep them safe.
And I'm like, but you were literally not doing that.
Imagine this.
You're with your family in the middle of the forest in a tent and a bear comes up and starts shredding the tents and just mauling everybody.
And you're like, calm down.
If we just be nice to the bear, it won't maul us after it's finished mauling everyone else.
I'm keeping my family safe by not doing anything to deal with the fact a bear is killing people.
And then the bear mauls everybody.
And then you're like, oh no, how could this have happened?
It reminds me of that meme.
adam crigler
Which one?
tim pool
The Andre What's-His-Face meme.
You know that meme?
Where he shoots the guy on the couch?
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
How dare you make me do this?
I mean there's a million different memes with that.
tim pool
How could they do this?
adam crigler
Have you heard of Unwoke?
tim pool
The website?
The hiring website?
adam crigler
So for companies that don't want to deal with people who are woke.
It's anonymous.
You get a job at... I mean, well, yeah, you're gonna pull it up?
Okay.
Higher thinkers, not activists.
Higher, courageous, free-thinking, and freedom-loving individuals, not ideologues whose only agenda is to weaponize your brand and business to further a radical cause.
tim pool
Check this out.
Look at this.
adam crigler
That is some serious stuff right there.
tim pool
This is interesting.
Look at all of these people, and there's a lot, who have listed their skills, their resumes.
You've got video editors.
You've got business operations leadership, web developers, bus operators.
adam crigler
120,000 a year?
That's serious jobs here.
tim pool
Yeah, these are legit, like, careers.
But you got recent college grad with certain knowledges, a manager.
And then you can also find work.
So that's those are those are those are employees.
Here's employers.
These are people looking for jobs.
We're looking for people who can do these things and we don't want woke people.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
How amazing.
adam crigler
Yeah, this is this is a credible Carlin.
Carlin Borsenko posted this up this morning.
I was like.
That is dope.
Like, that's what we need.
This is more people are like, you know what?
We've had enough.
We're not going to hire these people.
You can't, you're not welcome here anymore.
Because needless to say, racism isn't prevalent like you're saying it is.
lydia smith
Well, it seems like they're trying to head it off at the pass.
Like they're trying to stop it before it even starts.
Don't even bring it into your company.
adam crigler
Right.
lydia smith
Which I think is great.
It's a good idea.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
The companies are, you mean.
tim pool
Right, yeah.
I told you about when I worked for the nonprofits.
I did a Twitter thread about it, but I'll give the quick version.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I used to do street canvassing.
The people would walk around outside and be like, yo, hey, come talk to me.
I'm going to save the bears or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you fill out the form and you give me your credit card and now you're a member for life.
Not really, but you sign up for a monthly donation.
I used to do that.
It's a very, very taxing job because for the average person, everyone rejects you.
adam crigler
Yeah, I did telemarketing for a while.
tim pool
There's a lot I can talk about in this field.
For me and my friends, we were masters.
We didn't waste our time targeting people we knew didn't want to talk to us.
So we didn't deal with this, but most people get rejected 9 out of 10 times.
And that level of rejection starts demoralizing people who don't have the mental fortitude to handle that kind of rejection.
Non-stop, get away from me, no.
I'm sorry, not today.
Oh, don't talk to me.
adam crigler
Yeah, it was tough, telemarketing.
I mean, were you doing it on the phone?
tim pool
No, street.
Oh, street, canvassing.
adam crigler
Yeah, walking into people.
All right.
tim pool
So what happens is, eventually someone gets totally demoralized, frustrated, angry.
No matter what I do, it's impossible Then they look over at me, and I'm sitting there with my eyes half glazed over and shut, and I go, you over there, come here.
And they go, what's up, Mike?
Sign this out.
Give me your credit card.
And they do.
And it's like, how did he do that?
So now they're watching other people do it.
They can't figure it out.
They get really, really, really angry.
adam crigler
Hey, you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come over here.
Jump in the pool.
tim pool
No, but this is part of the problem.
When you have people who'd be like, hi there, would you like to talk about the environment?
No, I wouldn't do that.
I'd be like, yo, yo, what up?
And they'd be like, huh, me?
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, come here, come here, come here.
Like, why?
What's up?
Check this out.
Here, take that.
They take it.
I'm like, read it.
I'm like, okay.
And it's just like, just talk to people.
adam crigler
Let them do the work for you.
tim pool
So what happens is people get frustrated.
It's like playing a video game where no matter what you do, you keep losing.
You get really angry.
They go back to the office and they're fuming and they'll be sitting next to someone and they'll go, this job is impossible.
It's so dumb.
I'm sick of it.
These people, everyone is mean.
Everyone is awful all the time.
I hate everyone.
Then that negativity spreads to someone else, and they start getting anxiety.
Then they go out, they hyper-focus on the negative, and the office starts breeding negativity.
You know what the directors of the offices would do when that happens?
adam crigler
Fire everybody.
tim pool
Fire every single person.
They'd fire everyone, no matter what.
Even the people who are good at it, you know why?
They wanted to make sure no one remembered.
No one remembered the demoralization.
adam crigler
So that's very Maoist, isn't it?
tim pool
Absolutely. Yep. So when the new office comes in, everyone's like, they'd be like, we're just relaunching our new season
campaign and everybody always does really well. Yeah, everything's the best. But then as soon as the, they would
try and catch it fast. Yeah.
So they would do debriefs.
You'd come back, and they're like, how are you feeling?
What do you think?
And as soon as you start saying things like, I don't know, it's just so hard, they'd be like, okay, well, you know, we'll talk to you, and they'd call you.
Don't come back.
Because they don't want you to spread that pessimism, that negativity.
Dang.
And that's ripping through the country right now.
People who just wake up every morning, and they go, I'm angry, I hate everything, and I want to hate more.
And I wake up and I'm like, life's great.
What trick do I want to do today?
I get about an hour to skate.
I really want to try Blunt Backside 180.
Oh man, I'm so excited.
Once I get done with work, I get to go out there and try that trick for the day.
adam crigler
I just want that one run, man.
tim pool
Yeah, Adam's been trying a pretty beefy run.
adam crigler
I'll get it.
tim pool
You'll get it.
adam crigler
I'll get it.
tim pool
So, when I wake up, I'm thinking, like, I got my plans for the day.
I gotta do my work, man, you know?
And the reward is sitting there waiting to get a good skate session, get all sweaty.
Oh, it's 90 degrees out?
It's like, wow, it's hot.
I'm like, great, I'll get sweaty.
It's good, it's healthy.
adam crigler
Drippin'.
tim pool
Yeah, dude, just wore my shirts all drenched, feels good.
Everything can be a good thing.
Like, you've got this mangled, twisted scar on your ankle from skateboard whacking you.
adam crigler
I have multiple twisted scars on my ankles now.
But there's one in particular.
tim pool
We joke about it.
It's quite large.
You posted a photo, right?
There's blood everywhere.
And you've got a big ol' smile on your face.
You're like, cool, I'm gonna post a picture of it.
adam crigler
Actually, no, I didn't say that.
You said, dude, yeah, gnar, you gotta post a picture.
And I'm like, all right.
tim pool
But there it is, man.
Positive mental attitude.
It's true.
Your ankle is covered in blood.
You have every reason to be like, ah, I'm so angry.
Instead, you're just like, I'll post a picture, alright, and like, laughing about it.
And it's like, whenever one of us gets hurt, like, we don't get seriously hurt, but you'll be skating, you'll fall down.
One of us will just be like, you gotta pay your dues.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's like, that's just part of life, you know?
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
These people don't have that.
They're like, I should, could you imagine a skateboarder whose mentality was, I shouldn't have to get hurt ever?
adam crigler
That's not, that doesn't exist in skateboarding?
lydia smith
Yeah, no.
tim pool
It should be, falling in skateboarding should be banned.
Whoa, how?
adam crigler
Skateboarding is not long for this world, if that's the case.
tim pool
That's what I hear when they're like, ban hate speech.
adam crigler
Well, this is when we were skating the other day, and I was like, man, I love skateboarding.
You know, I feel like everyone needs to at least try it because there's something about getting hurt
and trying to, it's not a competitive sport.
You are facing only one person and it's yourself.
And when you're able to conquer yourself and learn something that's difficult, that is painful,
that you can get bloody ankles, and if you can get past that and you land that trick,
even if it's an ollie, even if it's just rolling forward, even just that is exciting.
tim pool
It's actually a really funny thing.
Somehow Adam manages to hit the exact same spot a couple times.
It's true.
It's like winning a lottery ticket.
adam crigler
I told you I'm lucky.
tim pool
How does it keep hitting you in the same spot?
adam crigler
I am lucky, man.
I have constant luck, and I am supremely blessed because of it.
tim pool
But this is funny, too.
adam crigler
Of course I'm lucky, because it keeps hitting the same spot!
tim pool
No, but this is funny.
It's like, your view of this injury is that it's good luck.
It's that you're a lucky person.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
When you have every reason to be angry about it.
Instead, it's a funny thing.
adam crigler
That's how I view it.
tim pool
And that's funny.
I think what we're describing with all this is healthy masculinity.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I agree.
The the the rye with a smile on your face the good and the bad all the things that come with life
That's a good maybe not even masculinity. The reason I say that is because like the idea of getting hurt I
Think within reason getting hurt feels good And it's not so much that the like you like you like pain
like you're a masochist or something It's it's it's annoying like you get it you get whacked in
the shin and you and you're like And you get angry yeah, but then you laugh and you're like
hey, man You know that's the name of the game that that proves you're
playing These are the risks that come with it, and it's it for me
when I get hurt skating it reminds me of like The point of skating that you are like when I do a trick
That fear of trying the new trick is the reward it's like overcoming this mental and physical challenge
And when you sometimes get hurt, it's reminding you that... That the road traveled.
Well, it's reminding you of what makes the game worth playing.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
You're avoiding this.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
You don't want to get hurt.
It might happen, and when it does, you're like, ah, got me.
adam crigler
You got me.
tim pool
But when you land that trick... You've got five seconds of, like, a dopamine rush.
adam crigler
Of elation, yeah, it's true.
tim pool
And then after that, it never comes back.
adam crigler
No, that's not true.
You just have to keep doing stronger and harder tricks.
tim pool
Exactly.
There was a great essay I read about skateboarding and they described, in very great detail, someone doing a really difficult trick down a massive set of stairs.
And it was written like, Adrian sits atop a 7 foot tall, 10 foot long stair set.
His goal, right now, to make the board spin 360 degrees, flipping end-over-end one time.
Catching it mid-air, landing it, and riding away.
And then it goes into great detail, it's like he drops the board to his feet.
And then finally, when you get to the bottom of the essay, it's like, with the board now in the air, his feet firmly on it, he lands, and in that moment, he feels the greatest feeling of accomplishment he will ever feel in his life.
adam crigler
That's awesome.
tim pool
And three seconds later it's gone.
Yeah.
And he wants it again.
Mm-hmm.
lydia smith
And he can't and he won't.
tim pool
He's gonna get high again.
He can't do the same thing to get that feeling.
adam crigler
Yep.
lydia smith
That's a good point.
adam crigler
He's already done it.
tim pool
That's a good point.
So it's like it's all part of that challenge.
If you don't have that in your life I have to wonder.
I mean, there's a lot of people, and I think there's probably some correlation between the willingness to fight, take risks, take challenges, you know, complete challenges, and wokeness and the SJWs who are unwilling and haven't.
They won't do this.
They think everything should be bubble wrapped.
adam crigler
And they think all masculinity is toxic.
And that couldn't be further from the truth.
There needs to be a balance in society of both.
tim pool
It's toxic femininity.
Toxic masculinity is basically being purged out anyway.
You get anywhere close to it and they cancel you.
But there's nothing stopping the left or toxic femininity.
There's another thing, too.
I was thinking about this when it came to Get What Go Broke concept.
Toxic diversity.
adam crigler
I have never heard that.
tim pool
No, I was just thinking about it.
That's what I'm going to call it.
Because I think diversity is a good thing.
I'll give you an example.
Different people from different parts of the world with different perspectives contributing to solve a big problem like the International Space Station.
We have a bunch of different nations coming together and their different views, developments, technology, research helps make the station work.
adam crigler
That's absolutely true.
It's a great example.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson has Antifa on his show, where he debates them.
Diversity of opinion and thought.
unidentified
Does he?
Oh, definitely.
Cool.
adam crigler
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Interesting.
That's what diversity is supposed to represent.
Not just skin color, but perspective, ideas.
adam crigler
That reminds me of a conversation I was having today with a friend of mine.
He didn't want to watch that documentary.
And I was like, why?
What about it that you don't want to watch?
Oh, well, I just I heard this and that and a few other people are saying, oh, well, oh, Candace Owens is in it.
So I know what she's all about.
So I'm not going to watch the documentary.
It's like so you're admitting to me you're refusing to just even accept to view the opposing side.
That and well, no, I'm not done.
One of the friend that I was talking to, we were talking for a while about it and eventually got to the point where he was like, you're right.
I'll go watch it.
And I was like, yes, go watch it and tell me, please hit me up right when you're done and call me.
We'll talk.
tim pool
Are these people purported supporters of Black Lives Matter?
adam crigler
Some of them are.
tim pool
And they refuse to watch black voices speaking out.
adam crigler
That's correct.
tim pool
Toxic diversity.
adam crigler
Good point.
Exactly.
tim pool
So when you see these like movies where it's like, you know, diversity at the expense of another group, that's toxic diversity.
We're going to do a movie with a female lead, and all the men in the movie are just talking about how dumb men are.
Toxic diversity.
adam crigler
Sounds familiar.
Sounds really familiar.
Where do I know that from?
tim pool
Name one of the movies.
lydia smith
I'm blocking it out.
tim pool
There's a bunch.
adam crigler
We did a review on it.
tim pool
I was going to say Ghostbusters.
adam crigler
Oh, Ghostbusters.
Okay, that's true.
I was talking about Birds of Prey.
Yeah, well, same thing.
tim pool
With Ghostbusters 2016, it was criticized because they were trying to empower women at the expense of men.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
Whereas Wonder Woman allows the characters to be strong, good, or bad in their own right.
adam crigler
Exactly!
tim pool
Real diversity.
adam crigler
Nailed it.
tim pool
You look at Into the Spider-Verse.
Miles Morales, main character, mentored by an older, divorced, kind of loser Spider-Man.
But he's a guy with flaws.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
But he's also still a hero who does help Miles become the Spider-Man he needs to be.
adam crigler
Honestly, now that I've saw it and I love that movie, it might be my favorite Spider-Man movie.
tim pool
Out of all of them.
adam crigler
I think so.
tim pool
I think so as well.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a great movie.
I gotta say, I love Homecoming.
I'm far from home.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, those ones are pretty good too.
tim pool
Yeah, Mysterio, I love that, that was great.
adam crigler
Oh no, I haven't seen that one yet.
tim pool
You haven't seen Far From Home?
adam crigler
No, I haven't.
Dude, I gotta see that.
tim pool
I always love referencing the Static Shock.
adam crigler
I know, yeah.
tim pool
Real diversity.
adam crigler
Yeah, the story's great.
tim pool
But then you get birds of prey, toxic diversity.
adam crigler
Toxic, yeah.
tim pool
And this is what they do.
This is an important distinction in toxic diversity because I think it explains what really is at issue here.
I've had conversations with progressives where they're like, you just don't like, you know, you're just supporting racists or whatever.
Trying to explain what authoritarian social justice is, you know, where people are canceling, you know, cancel culture and stuff like that.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But when talking about Get Woke, Go Broke, complaining about the Gillette commercial.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
The Gillette commercial, it's not because of diversity.
It's toxic.
It's belittling one group of people, showing a bunch of men and saying what men do are bad, men are bad, men bad.
It's all toxic.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
They could have done.
And what they used to do, it used to be the best a man could be.
And it was like showing firefighters and like heroes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But then they're like, nah, let's drag and insult the guys who buy our products.
Toxic.
Represent the good and show a good example of what people should be doing.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
Spider-Man to the Spider-Verse.
You have the Japanese, I don't know her name, but she, Kimiko, I think, maybe?
She's got the Spider-Mech.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You've got Spider-Man Noir.
adam crigler
You've got... Nicolas Cage Spider-Man.
Right.
unidentified
That's him.
I don't know.
tim pool
Nicolas Cage Spider-Man.
Dude, that was awesome.
I love that movie.
adam crigler
So good.
tim pool
But nobody complained about that.
Yeah.
There were some people, for sure.
adam crigler
Was there?
I don't know.
tim pool
I mean, because racists exist.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
But the movie's overwhelmingly positive.
Everybody loves it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the other funny thing, too, is like with The Last of Us 2, it's getting a lot of bad reviews.
And it's funny when people are like, these men just don't like seeing strong women.
And then people are like, The Last of Us has an add-on DLC.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
Nobody complained about that.
adam crigler
The first one?
tim pool
Yeah.
So the first game has an add-on where you play as Ellie and another girl, I guess.
I don't know a lot about it.
But then people reference a ton of games with strong female leads and they're like, gee, I wonder why no one's complaining about these games.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Maybe there's something toxic about how these games go about their storytelling that you won't accept.
So I'll tell you what I'll tell you what I'm about to do.
I will absolutely accept there's toxic masculinity.
adam crigler
Well, there is.
tim pool
Macho bros who refuse to accept fault for anything, who think they're better than everyone else, they're egotists, they're bullies.
And then there's real masculinity.
The dude who runs full speed to push a kid out of the way of a car before the car hits him.
or the man that that caught that baby from the fire yeah what a boss it's like yeah he ran over and caught that baby like awesome or how about a firefighter in general who runs into a burning building yeah with the real risk to their life life or the police officer who runs towards the gunfire yeah real masculinity yeah toxic masculinity is unearned arrogant you know dominant behavior You know what I think?
I think toxic masculinity is when you cheat to be a man.
adam crigler
Good call, yeah.
tim pool
That's a good point.
Whereas someone who's truly masculine would, you know, like a tree, you know, a moderately sized tree is about to fall down on a kid and he runs over and he grabs it and he's like, and he's like risking himself and he's like trying to stop the tree from crushing a kid.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Superhero stuff.
adam crigler
Like from Game of Thrones, it's like the king that needs to yell and scream that he's the king is no king at all.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Toxic masculinity is the guy who brags and lies and pretends like he's better than everyone else to assert his masculinity versus the guy who keeps his mouth shut and is just, you know.
adam crigler
Who just simply is the king.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
And then there's toxic femininity.
It's toxicity.
I think we need to call out toxic diversity.
adam crigler
That's great.
I like that a lot.
Toxic diversity.
That's really, it's solid.
We got to talk about it.
tim pool
Toxic diversity is when someone rags on white people, you know, for the sake of like, I'm not racist.
And then they do, what is that?
That mute white people button on Instagram?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Toxic diversity.
adam crigler
Toxic.
tim pool
Blaming Asians for their success and saying that we should be allowed to discriminate against them in schools.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Toxic diversity.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
You are not actually trying to help people solve these problems and poverty.
You are just being racist.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's toxicity.
adam crigler
This makes me think of what I said yesterday.
People need to stop confusing holding people accountable for their actions or lack of actions with racism.
Because it's not the same thing.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
It's toxic.
Right.
tim pool
People do bad things and they're like, you can't criticize them.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
That's toxic diversity.
You know?
And so that's that's what I think is happening.
We've got to throw it to Jordan Peterson, I guess.
We don't know where the line is.
So our brands, our institutions will not draw a line and say that's too far.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We know when the right goes too far.
We know when men go too far.
What about women?
Literally, I've heard attempts at defining toxic femininity from many people and they can't do it.
adam crigler
Well, there's actually a rise.
I'm seeing this.
Amber Heard, for example, it's probably the biggest case of the opposite side of it.
And I'm seeing tweets that are flowing around about how men don't complain.
They don't, because of their masculinity, when they get abused, they're more inclined to go, I'm not going to let this affect me or, you know, complain about it, you know?
So it kind of like gets swept under the rug, like it doesn't exist, when it clearly does.
tim pool
I would define toxic femininity as You know who I know this pisses off?
bubble wrap, putting your kids, wrapping pillows around their body, banning all naughty words,
banning all hate speech, banning all roughhousing, and then just like suspending them from a
series of elastic straps so that an earthquake wouldn't hurt them and they just don't move.
It's like the most extreme version of protecting someone possible.
adam crigler
You know who I know this pisses off?
Who?
lydia smith
You know how I know?
adam crigler
Because of my face.
No, no, I could see you're on the edge of your seat.
lydia smith
Yeah, I literally go up on the edge of my seat.
adam crigler
It pisses me off.
lydia smith
So, it ticks me off.
Tim's right about wrapping people in bubble wrap, but there's a savage element.
And it's not the kind of masculine savagery.
It's not on the front lines.
It's underneath.
It is sneaky.
It is manipulative.
I really don't like it because I've seen it.
adam crigler
So a feminine savagery, you mean, is what you're saying?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Well, it's under the surface.
adam crigler
Subliminal savagery.
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
So I think about if you want to use the word masculinity and femininity, what they're supposed to represent.
The masculine is going out on the hunt.
The feminine is nurturing and caring and providing for the family.
Both can be toxic.
The arrogant guy who bullies people and pushes them around and thinks he's better than everyone else is toxic.
The mother that refuses to allow their children to grow up and experience the world, wraps them in bubble wrap and snowplows everything, is toxic.
You are not helping the children survive.
You're not helping anybody.
lydia smith
The evil mother.
adam crigler
They're not preparing them for real life.
What it's really like out there.
It's not fair.
tim pool
It's toxic.
adam crigler
To the kids.
tim pool
And then there's also, of course, the manipulative, you know, but you know what?
I don't, I don't necessarily equate that with feminism.
Lying to steal resources is not masculine or feminine.
lydia smith
I'm talking about, I'm talking about using your wiles and using your brains to get what you want.
I'm not talking about controlling, like, means and outcomes and stuff like that.
tim pool
I don't see that has anything to do with female or femininity.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
No, because men do it.
You've got confident, charismatic men who sell snake oil.
lydia smith
That's true.
tim pool
You know, they'll walk up and be like, this year, this guy right here, vote for him and he'll end racism.
adam crigler
So that, that's just, that's just sounds like toxic character.
Yes.
Where's my like button?
lydia smith
Oh, yes.
There we go.
unidentified
Hmm.
adam crigler
My like button.
Oh, I love my like button.
Yes.
Okay.
What are we talking about?
tim pool
Well, we were supposed to talk about Trump's calling in federal forces.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh, what happened with that?
That was like an hour ago.
That was a long time ago.
tim pool
Well, because, you know, I was thinking usually it's better to wait to the middle so that everyone can come in and, you know, normally we go to about nine.
So let's actually, let's jump to this, the main actual, the main segment we wanted to talk about.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Exclusive!
President Trump threatens federal action in violent Democrat-run cities.
Townhall says, during an exclusive interview with Townhall from the White House Tuesday, President Trump warned his administration will take action if Democratic mayors and governors can't get crime under control.
They are cities run by liberal Democrats.
We're now looking at having to do something, you know?
We have to be asked to go into a city like Chicago, which is so ridiculous, where they had like 68 shootings and 18 deaths over the weekend.
It's not even comprehensible.
Worse than Afghanistan.
Worse than any war zone.
Nightmarish?
Can you check off your bingo cards now for Tim Poole saying the word nightmare, dystopia?
adam crigler
I have it, I have it.
Yep, on the right.
tim pool
There you go.
adam crigler
Checked.
unidentified
Done.
tim pool
There it is, there it is.
We're supposed to be asked.
She is supposed to call the mayor Lightfoot, Lori.
She's supposed to call and say, we need your help.
We call her.
Would you like to have us come in?
And they don't want us.
And I say, what's going on?
During the interview, Trump said police in cities like Chicago and New York City aren't allowed to do their jobs and are terrified of legal action.
We are going to have to do something very comprehensive.
It means sending people in.
It means sending people in to clean up.
There's a point at which we are allowed to go in, and that point is rapidly being reached.
There's a point at which we will have to do it, because we just have to do it for the good of the country.
When asked about what threshold must be met before federal action is taken, the president said carnage and death is his standard.
I'm pretty sure we're past that.
adam crigler
Yeah, Chicago's... You know, it's funny, because Chicago was the most dangerous city in America for a while.
And then it started to get a little bit better for a little bit there, for a couple years.
And man, is it a war zone again.
tim pool
It's getting worse.
adam crigler
And it's getting worse.
And this makes a good point.
The cops aren't allowed to do their job and they're terrified of legal action.
I watched a video of NYPD training.
Uh, what they have to go through and they're, they are now not allowed to do most non-lethal tactics anymore.
Like leaning on their chest, leaning on their back, sitting on them.
Like I do, I get the, you know, you don't want people to kill anybody, but they're now riding between not doing anything.
And the only means, which is pulling their gun when they're in fear of their life, which is the last thing I want.
I don't want people pulling guns.
I don't want them to have to use lethal force.
tim pool
I think Crowder was talking about this, like, the use of chokeholds is a less lethal tactic for de-escalation.
adam crigler
Didn't he choke out one of his, uh... Yeah, he did.
Let's not do that on this show.
tim pool
Can we not?
Like, do you know kids would play the pass-out game?
adam crigler
No.
You remember that?
No.
tim pool
I'm not gonna explain what they do, but they purposely made themselves pass out.
They would go in, like, in grade school, they'd be like, and then they'd fall over and everyone would laugh.
adam crigler
Is this another one of those TikTok challenges?
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised.
But this is back when I was a kid.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it's basically, you know, how to do a chokehold.
adam crigler
The original TikTok.
Real life.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, they were doing that, the skull breaker challenge.
adam crigler
Yeah, terrible.
tim pool
Make someone jump and then knock.
Jeez, man, these kids are nuts.
But anyway, Trump sending in the troops.
You see, in Oregon, As soon as the feds came in to defend federal jurisdiction, the federal courthouse, Trump's occupying army.
That's what they said.
adam crigler
Yeah, this annoys me because they've been, it's always this back and forth game.
They keep going with Trump.
They're like, how come he's not doing anything?
And he's like, I'll do something if you want me to.
unidentified
And they're like, How dare he try to do something at all?
adam crigler
And he's like, okay, I'll back off.
unidentified
How dare he say he's going to back off?
adam crigler
And it's just like back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
tim pool
I hope American people can see this.
adam crigler
Oh, I think they can, man.
I'm fairly certain.
tim pool
Donald Trump says, I'm going to go in and we're going to clean up COVID.
We got serious problems.
And they're like, you have no right.
You have no authority over the states.
You can't tell them what to do.
You can't shut them down.
Now they're like, It's all Trump's fault.
unidentified
How dare he not shut all the states down?
adam crigler
How dare he?
tim pool
It's the weirdest thing that New York is the problem.
adam crigler
And New Jersey.
tim pool
And New Jersey.
adam crigler
Both of them.
tim pool
Those are the big problems.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And why are they blaming Trump for this?
adam crigler
Yeah, why?
tim pool
He can't control what the governors did.
And the governors locked down.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then they did a bunch of other really messed up things.
adam crigler
And while they were doing it, they had their chins high.
They said, I dare you to do something, Trump.
I dare you.
Bring it on.
tim pool
You know what, man?
I think we're... But it's all his fault.
I don't think people realize exactly where we are in terms of the dramatic escalation.
I was watching Knowing with Nicolas Cage.
It's a 20 year old movie, so spoiler alert.
The planet blows up.
Cage we're watching Knowing yeah and it's like it's out it's a 20 year old
movie so spoiler alert the planet blows up I don't know there's like a solar
flare but there's a scene at the end of the movie where the solar flare hits and
it shows you like an overview of New York with the fire sweeping across
You could be standing in like Battery Park at southern tip of Manhattan Island and not realize that in one minute a giant wave of fire was going to blow you up.
And so people are standing there just doing nothing, you know, not realizing, and then a minute later, they're gone.
I think that's where we're at.
I think the figurative meteor has slammed into the planet already, and the wave is now sweeping across, but people don't realize how bad it already is.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
I think we're really close to Donald Trump.
I think we're closer to Presidential Directive 51 than we've ever been to.
I think there's a really good possibility, come November, Trump is going to... Was that Bush who put that into place?
Yeah, I think it was in 2007.
Could be wrong.
But I think we're really close to Trump enacting Presidential Directive 51, which would reform the government and create a continuity coordinator and dissolve and restructure it due to catastrophe.
adam crigler
I mean, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the country was like, oh, finally.
Seriously.
tim pool
Well, so with the threat of war, with the chaos in the streets, when I mentioned, I mentioned this several times, the CDC having these employees.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
If the CDC declares racism a public health crisis, what does that mean?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
Are we gonna get to the point where I've mentioned before, like, you must destroy your copy of the Constitution because it was made by racists and racism is killing people?
You don't want to kill people, do you?
Well then you can't support racism, right?
adam crigler
That's funny, I was listening to a speech from Obama and he said, uh...
If anyone has any doubts that America isn't amazing, that you can do anything, that our forefathers didn't make this happen, let there be no more doubts.
And it's like, that wasn't that long ago.
Where did that happen?
Imagine if Trump said that right now.
Imagine if Trump said that right now.
People would flip.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
And it's like we had two... What's the difference?
It's true!
tim pool
We had two terms of Obama.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That means people voted for Trump, voted for Obama.
People that voted for Obama then went on to vote for Trump.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
But they're all racists.
I look at what's going on, and I think, there's a hurricane at Bruin, man.
It's made landfall, and people are sitting there thinking, I'm just gonna sit back and wait for this to all, let's do another Shaun of the Dead reference.
The zombie apocalypse is here.
They're romping about, they're smashing people, they're biting and killing, and you get these people who are like, let's go to the Winchester and wait for this to all blow over.
And so they go to the pub and think the zombies won't come.
Zombies do come.
And so I think it's substantially worse than people realize when you see what's going on with the rioting, with COVID.
Let's talk about the economy.
The stocks are skyrocketing right now.
So I have, the only stock I have is Square.
Actually, this was a funny little disclaimer we did at the beginning of the Joe Rogan podcast with Dorsey.
I was like, full disclosure, I've got a small amount of Square stock, because he's the CEO.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
tim pool
It has doubled.
Doubled.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
In a couple, in like two months.
Doubled.
That's insane.
Yeah, that's a lot.
I wonder if these are death throws.
adam crigler
Hmm.
tim pool
Yeah.
So listen.
Mortgage housing payments were missed 32% people aren't paying rent people aren't working yet jobs are coming back and all that stuff But I've mentioned this before man when the economy was just stopped by all these governors not by Trump The train doesn't just go boop and stop Every car starts ramming into the next and all that energy gets transferred and the whole train starts flipping over and crashing off the tracks You can't just stop it.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
So the damage Let's hit the tax base.
It's funny, New York City says, we're going to defund the police by a billion dollars.
You know what I think?
adam crigler
They needed that money elsewhere.
tim pool
They needed that money elsewhere.
Bingo.
The trains are collapsing.
adam crigler
Sure, we'll defund it.
Because we were so broke.
tim pool
And Elijah's going, thank you.
Thank you for giving me an excuse.
We are in serious trouble.
And people are fleeing.
I went on a Zillow.com real estate website.
In the past 30 days, New York City, 7,600 entries for real estate for sale.
Wow, do you know how many sale do you know how many do you know how many listings there were in the two months before?
adam crigler
5,100 Oh 5,000 in the two went I'm sorry did you say seven hundred
and fifty thousand seven thousand seven thousand okay, okay?
tim pool
So so listen it didn't go up that much then in two months You had about five thousand listings. Yeah
The next month, which was last month, 7,600.
adam crigler
That's a pretty big bump.
tim pool
What happened in the last month that tripled the amount of listings?
It's not just buildings, it's condos and residences.
Yeah, it's the collapse, man.
A lot of these people probably already left.
They're no longer paying taxes to the city or the state.
Now they're selling their property.
Good luck selling it.
The prices are going to collapse.
When that happens, the tax base has already been eroding.
They were already in trouble.
That's just New York.
adam crigler
You know what?
They're going to rename the city New Flint.
tim pool
New Flint.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's gonna be like Detroit.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They're not gonna be able to support clean water.
Well, I think New York's water source is actually really clean and they're lucky because it comes from up north in the mountains and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
But New York was already hurting.
Then COVID happened.
Then the riots happened.
The economy is in really bad shape, more than anyone realizes.
Now, Trump, I believe, is obligated to be optimistic because if he came out and said, it's worse than you realize, people would panic.
That would lead to more destruction.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
I think Trump's best he can do is tout the good numbers, but what does the media do?
No matter what happens, it's bad.
It's like, you know, record-breaking jobs month, and they go, they're like, this is actually, you know, not true because these were furloughs, and Trump's just lying.
It's like, can you let people have this one?
Can you take the win?
adam crigler
Can you let the American people think that at least?
Because who cares about Trump at this moment?
Let the American people have a little bit of hope.
tim pool
Confidence.
adam crigler
How about that?
Confidence.
tim pool
They can start working.
adam crigler
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
And things will recover.
But I'm going to be honest.
And I'm not trying to say this to be a naysayer or pessimistic.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
But look at... Go ahead.
adam crigler
Say it.
Just say it.
What were you going to say?
tim pool
Mortgage-backed securities.
adam crigler
What were you going to say?
tim pool
I'm saying it.
adam crigler
Oh, OK.
tim pool
Yeah.
People aren't paying their mortgages.
What happens when the mortgages go delinquent?
The banks default on their... The loans default.
Yep.
Then the banks default.
And we get 07 again.
adam crigler
That's true.
And guess whose fault it's going to be?
In the mainstream media, and guess who they're gonna blame?
unidentified
Well, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
I think it's COVID.
I think there's nothing that could be done.
It's nobody's fault.
Now, we can blame the Democratic governors for a lot of things, particularly putting COVID patients in nursing homes.
But now that they're demanding these ridiculous restrictions, I gotta say, man, First and foremost, you get your health advice from your doctor and nobody else.
adam crigler
Period.
tim pool
Nobody else.
But maybe Trump is right.
There was like a leaked memo where apparently Trump is saying, we're gonna have to learn to live with this.
Like, COVID is here.
We can't just stop.
The economy has to function.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
And maybe he's right.
adam crigler
I mean, this whole thing about people being upset about masks, because most people wear masks.
Most people wear masks.
I don't mind wearing a mask.
tim pool
There are people who don't wear masks.
Some high profile people do.
adam crigler
There are some people that don't wear masks.
High profile ones.
That's very true.
But for the most part, nobody cares about wearing a mask.
We'll wear a mask if we need to.
tim pool
Trump wore a mask.
adam crigler
People want to work again.
They need to get back to work.
unidentified
Period.
Yep.
adam crigler
We need to make it happen.
tim pool
But that ripple from when the meteor dropped into that water, that damage on the economy from the initial COVID lockdown, it's going to rip apart everything.
The craziest thing to me when I see these activists posting things like print money.
That whole thing.
You're right.
that whole thing. Listen, listen.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Alyssa Milano.
That's you saw that.
Yeah, I did. When she was like, we are not going back to school.
We're just print money and give it to people.
There's no reasoning with her rage.
No, she's addicted to it.
You're right. And that idea of just not working, sitting back and
printing money leads to one thing. The end of America.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's not an exaggeration.
It's not hyperbolic to say there's if you just keep printing money and
no one produces, you will have hyperinflation and this will
have a profound detrimental effect on the rest of the planet.
adam crigler
Hyperinflation and no products to even... Exactly.
But nothing will be worth anything.
tim pool
That's why the money becomes worthless.
adam crigler
And what happened in Venezuela?
That's exactly what happened in Venezuela.
tim pool
What can you do with your money?
Let's say someone gave you a million bucks right now.
What would you do?
Now for now, you could buy a Tesla.
adam crigler
I'd buy a house.
tim pool
There's things you could do.
Could you go to an infinity pool on a rooftop bar?
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
No, you can't.
adam crigler
Why not?
tim pool
Because they're closed.
They're re-locking everything down.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
The point is that these luxury items that gave the money value in the first place... I'm pretty sure the million dollars I could do it though.
I'm not convinced.
I'm not convinced.
Because a lot of these people who have access to this are part of the anti-Trump, you know, shut it all down train.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
They're gonna be like, what are you, crazy?
I'm not gonna risk grandma's life for you!
Now, I'm sure there are a bunch of rich people who know where to go and do their thing, you know what I mean?
The point is, a million dollars, okay, maybe over the top.
If you had a hundred bucks, could you go to the bar down the street, sit down, have a pint?
You can't.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
So how much value does the money have if services have been erased?
lydia smith
It has less already.
tim pool
It has less value?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So then when someone says, I'll give you a hundred bucks, you can go, I can't even do anything with a hundred bucks.
What am I going to do, buy a bag of potatoes?
Okay, how about two hundred bucks?
I guess I can get two bags of potatoes.
Fine, I'll take two hundred bucks.
The less the dollar can do, the less value it has.
It's as simple as basic understanding of reality.
If you had a machine that could drive, it could be a boat, a car, or a plane, that's a valuable machine, especially if it's very safe.
That's gotta be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Look at a regular car versus a Tesla.
The more versatile, the more it can do, the more valuable it is.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
U.S.
dollar works the same way.
If you can't buy anything with it, What were we trying to order, skateboards?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
A specific skateboard, sold out.
adam crigler
Sold out.
tim pool
Can't get them.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So what, it's like, if someone came to me and said, you know, obviously you need money for food, but there was a point I made before, what if you have food?
What if you work at a market, you have a bunch of excess food you can't get rid of, because business has been slowed down, and someone comes and says, I'll give you $100 to do, you know, a thing, you're gonna be like, eh, I got food, I don't know what I would do with it, everything's shut down, I don't drive anywhere, I mean, I guess I'll take it, money's money.
At a certain point, if we lose... So right now, people still have confidence in the dollar.
So the dollar will have value.
But what happens in... They're saying it's going to be another 9 or 12 months of lockdown.
What happens in a year of continued lockdown?
And then it gets to the point where people start losing confidence and they say, I mean, I could take your dollars, but I can't really do anything with them.
So do you have anything else?
adam crigler
Looking at the death rates, the whole now, no one's talking about the death rates at all.
It's like nonexistent.
No one's talking about it because they're really low.
No one's dying anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, yes, it exists.
But it's like the one story like, wow, so This one person died today of COVID and it's like, that's it?
One person?
Isn't that fantastic?
Yeah, because people can have it because it's like a regular coronavirus.
The term coronavirus has been weaponized now.
It's craziness.
tim pool
I think we're in trouble.
And it almost feels like there are people who are so dumb, they don't realize you have the choice between people are gonna get sick and they're gonna die, and Trump, or lock everyone in their homes.
adam crigler
And everyone will die worse.
tim pool
And just strip everyone's resources away and just.
adam crigler
Wither and die.
tim pool
What do you do about a person like Alyssa Milano who doesn't realize, it's like, imagine you found somebody who was like, You know, blind, deaf, and dumb.
And they're just like, totally incapable, and you just put their finger on a trigger for a nuclear bomb.
You can't reason with them.
They're gonna go...
She's not knowing what to do.
Alyssa Milano's got tons of followers.
She has no idea what she's talking about, but she's angry.
And she's firing off 50 cows in random directions.
Just print money, print money!
And it's like, you're destroying everything!
Stop! No!
Because Orange Man is bad!
Yep. That's what's gonna happen.
All these people on Twitter.
You know what, man?
It's like, if I was targeting a foreign country, working for a military or whatever, you could not ask for a more perfect outcome.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
To destabilize and destroy your enemy.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
tim pool
Having a bunch of people demand the government do nonsensical things that destroy their own country, and they're doing it.
And there's no reasoning with them because they're addicted to anger.
adam crigler
You're absolutely right.
tim pool
How do we pull out of this tailspin?
adam crigler
I'm trying to figure the answer.
tim pool
Residential Directive 51.
adam crigler
Every single day, I try to figure it out.
Thomas Sowell is an economist.
I try to do a new interview every single day that I didn't watch before.
He's an incredibly smart man that everyone needs to go listen to.
tim pool
I think we're close to the point where we end up with hardcore authoritarianism from the right.
adam crigler
Yeah, but knowing... I mean, I've been diving into Trump lately, and I know the type of person he is.
I don't think that he wants that.
I think he believes in the American life, the American freedom, the American way, the dream of being an American.
tim pool
I think both sides are at a point where there's no reconciliation.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
And both are going to demand of their own faction the only way to save our country is to violently purge the other side.
adam crigler
It's a shame.
tim pool
The conversations I've had with people, I'm sure the conversations you've had, When you see children disowning their parents, parents disowning their children, or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, how do we get past that?
If... I think November's gonna be a hoot, to say the least.
adam crigler
I think so too, man.
I think it's gonna be... I mean... I gotta learn how to ride a horse.
Not only November, I think going from this point to November, it's just gonna get crazier and crazier.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
This has been the craziest year of my life, hands down.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure everyone can say that.
tim pool
Everyone, everyone.
adam crigler
Most people can say that.
tim pool
Let's jump over to these super chats.
lydia smith
Oh, yes!
tim pool
David Holguin says, you three give this American-Mexican conservative hope for the future.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
unidentified
Great.
tim pool
I mean, glad you enjoy the show.
lydia smith
I hope that is still true at this point.
tim pool
BG says, Read today that there are 17 million plus primary votes for Trump across 31 states so far.
Previous incumbent record is 9 million.
Is this a sign of support growth, or is it explained by the base's enthusiasm, or both?
Both, I'd imagine.
Both.
There's probably some other factors in there as well.
adam crigler
I think it's going to be a landslide.
I got a hefty super chat from Eternal Jenju here.
He says, with regards to masculine versus feminine archetypes, manipulating others to resolve your issues is inherently a feminine means according to evolutionary psychology.
It was needed when they had to rear child.
Tim's confusion is because only feminine methods of attack are allowed now.
tim pool
Perhaps.
adam crigler
Interesting, yeah.
tim pool
Somebody, uh, Harpoon Trading says, Tim Pool equals Ben Shapiro in disguise.
Change my mind.
I think I'm substantially less Jewish than Ben Shapiro.
lydia smith
Good point.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
lydia smith
A lot more Asian.
unidentified
A lot more.
lydia smith
A lot, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know what's funny?
It's like, uh, the videos I've seen of Ben Shapiro, the ones that get recommended to me or the ones that people share, I almost always agree with.
But then when I actually watch him in his full, I'm like, wow, I disagree with him a lot.
A lot, a lot.
He's got a lot of religious positions, for instance.
And so it's like, I think the sharing of certain libertarian and liberty-minded ideals, American freedom stuff, that overlap allows us to be like, I agree, that's great, I appreciate what he's saying.
adam crigler
Freedom.
lydia smith
I actually think you guys might have similar personalities.
Yeah, I think so.
That's what I came up with.
I know you guys disagree on a lot.
tim pool
Probably.
adam crigler
I've only just started listening to him because there was an interview with Jordan Peterson and Shapiro and David Rubin was kind of moderating it and it was insightful.
lydia smith
Great.
tim pool
Let's see what we got here.
Aureus says, I'm a couple minutes behind live, but I would define toxic femininity as the rejection of anything considered to be masculine without reasonable discretion under the guise of it being toxic or being part of the patriarchy.
Well, that's just... I think that derives from it.
lydia smith
That kind of scratches the surface.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like, it is true.
Yes, right.
But it's so much more than just that.
tim pool
I think toxic femininity breeds that, but it's something else.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
Justin says drugs never should have been treated as a criminal issue, they should have been treated as a mental health issue.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
Smash the like button.
adam crigler
Smash that like button.
Oh, were you saying or did they say that?
tim pool
They said it.
unidentified
Nice!
tim pool
Smash!
Villa Music Dude says, Hey guys, Peter Schiff had predicted 2008,
and I believe Robert Kiyosaki was on the same train.
Listen to what he has to say.
He was on Joe Rogan Today, episode should release tomorrow.
Schiff was Ron Paul's economic advisor.
What did he say?
What does he say?
lydia smith
We will find out tomorrow.
tim pool
Is it the end?
adam crigler
I don't know who that is.
Do I buy gold?
lydia smith
Tim.
tim pool
What?
lydia smith
He's saying a U.S.
dollar crisis is much closer than people think.
When it hits, it's game over.
No more can kicking.
The paper must be, the piper must be paid.
unidentified
What does that mean?
lydia smith
So he's literally saying what you're saying.
The U.S.
dollar, if it's worthless, it's over.
It's over.
It's totally done.
tim pool
I think maybe the- If we're printing money.
adam crigler
We must stop printing money.
tim pool
I think one of the reasons stocks are skyrocketing right now- Because they're switching from money to stocks.
And because at least in the stock, you know, at least the stocks control the actual production of some kind of resource.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
But I don't know.
I don't know.
lydia smith
You must be watching our show too, because that was 30 minutes ago.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
adam crigler
I wonder if- We're on fire tonight, Tim.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Look, if you have a company that literally can produce a thing, is owning a part of that more valuable than having just a piece of green paper?
adam crigler
You know, the thing.
Look fat.
unidentified
Look fat.
tim pool
A dollar crisis, man.
I don't know if y'all have noticed, but I'm gonna give you a hint.
If you watch any of my videos, and even some of these, you'll notice advertisements.
Those advertisements tell you what I've been searching for.
And there's been two big things.
Do you know what the first big thing is?
adam crigler
Skate ramp.
tim pool
Skate ramp.
Do you know what the second big thing is?
lydia smith
Gold.
unidentified
Goal!
Yeah!
tim pool
Skateboard ramps.
We got these ramps that are like really easy to build, but I don't want to call them cheap.
We'll call them inexpensive.
adam crigler
They're pretty legit.
tim pool
They're okay.
Yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, they're not like permanent.
tim pool
The real mini ramp we have skate line and everything.
It's from keen ramps.
unidentified
Yeah.
I love it.
tim pool
Amazing.
One of the best times I've ever skated.
I'm really impressed.
So smooth.
And then we got this, the ramp tech ones for what they are.
They're incredible.
They're pretty legit, but they're inexpensive, easy to build and they're good.
They're good.
adam crigler
They're fun.
I really enjoy them.
tim pool
But if you've got the budget, man, Keen Ramps, that's a fantastic company.
Fantastic.
They got really good stuff.
Let's read some more of these superchats.
jets the best Tracy Nolan says breaking report 33 Florida labs were just busted
cooking the books reporting 98% positive rates other than 9.8 what yeah is that
lydia smith
true Interesting.
tim pool
I'm going to look it up.
I want to find, I want a hard source on that.
adam crigler
We were talking about it earlier.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I want a hard source.
adam crigler
I want to, I want to, I want to put COVID numbers, man.
unidentified
Gotta, gotta spike them up through the roof to make people afraid.
lydia smith
Fox News.
tim pool
Fox News says it.
lydia smith
They're not reporting negative test results.
That would skew things a little bit.
Holy cow.
adam crigler
So it's, so it's all positive because that's the only thing.
unidentified
100%.
That's amazing.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Jeremy Boone says, what is your take on how the military and police will react if your proposed civil war scenario takes place?
Both have oaths to support and defend the Constitution.
They take very seriously.
I'll tell you what's going to happen.
When the mob showed up to the McCloskey's house and started, you know, threatening and screaming and breaking the fence, and the McCloskey's on their own property with their constitutionally protected right to bear arms, And Castle Doctrine Law said, get off my property.
The police showed up and seized Mark McCloskey's rifle.
The police just did what the mob told them to do.
They did not serve the Constitution.
They said, sorry.
We know there's a Constitution, but our oath is to follow orders, not the law.
What happened when the governors locked down all of these businesses in violation of the Constitution?
And Bill de Blasio himself said no protests allowed, except for Black Lives Matter.
The police said, sorry.
The Constitution is something we wipe our butts with, not actually swear an oath to.
lydia smith
Oh, that's what that is.
adam crigler
But what's that directive?
Directive 51?
Right, so if he actually enacts that and takes over, and goes, these are your orders now.
tim pool
They'll all say yes.
adam crigler
I know they will.
tim pool
Pathetic.
The McCloskeys licked the boot of these police officers because, in my opinion, they're pathetic.
You don't have to... I'm not saying defy.
I'm saying when the police show up to your house and said, we're seizing your rifle, you say, no.
You say, okay, serve the warrant, have a nice day, and F you.
Not, I know you're sorry about this.
Sorry?
They're violating the Constitution!
On your own property, Castle Doctrine Law, and Second Amendment, and you're just gonna be like, These nice police officers are just doing their jobs.
adam crigler
Well, they're lawyers, and they clearly want to abide by the law.
tim pool
Yes, that's not what I'm talking about at all.
adam crigler
I'm just pointing that out though.
That's all I'm doing.
tim pool
And they should absolutely abide by the law, as should everybody.
And then you can condemn the police for just following orders.
You can condemn the government You can condemn all of them and they say, we're not going to blame the police for just doing their job.
And then I had people tweeting at me when I said this, they were like, you've got to strike at the root, which is the prosecutors and the government.
No, the root references the smallest bit that leads up to the, to the trunk of the tree.
Each individual officer who says, I will tear up the constitution when asked, that's the problem.
If every single officer, like we saw the sheriffs in Virginia and across the country said, I will not enforce unconstitutional laws.
adam crigler
Yep.
In Ohio, in Florida, in Texas.
I've seen it all over the place.
They're like, no way, we're not going to be the masked police.
tim pool
So, to clarify, when it comes to the big cities and conflict breaks out, the governors are going to call for unconstitutional things and the police are going to have a smile on their face as they stomp the boot on yours.
adam crigler
I don't know.
New York had 400,000 applicants to retire.
400,000?
unidentified
It was up like 400% or something.
adam crigler
Or maybe that's what it was, 400%.
Some sort of incredible increase that they had to stop it.
They were like, sorry, no one can retire right now.
No one can retire.
tim pool
I'm not saying that all cops are bad.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
A lot of cops are going to say no, they're going to quit, they're going to blue flu, they're going to turn the other way, they're not going to force it.
But there will be cops, I'll clarify this, there will absolutely be police who care not for the Constitution at all.
They're going to be like, look man, I get paid $27,000 a year, alright?
I'm gonna just do what I'm told, because I gotta go back to my parents' basement after this.
I'm not exaggerating.
I'm not trying to make fun of them.
In New York, this is a huge story in New York, that a lot of the cops that they hire get paid trash wages and live at their parents' homes.
It was a big story.
So they're going to be like, I don't know, man.
I just got to do my thing.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
There will be.
You know, it's really funny.
The small town cops, probably the bulk in this country of police.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Are refusing.
adam crigler
No doubt.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I just looked it up.
It was 400, 400 percent increase in retirement in New York.
NYPD.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I think I did see that.
adam crigler
They're like, we're out of here.
This is insane.
It's not working.
We put our lives on the line.
tim pool
Let me rephrase this to clarify.
There's going to be patriots and there's going to be stormtroopers.
The stormtroopers are the people who will stay in the government and just do whatever they're told in defiance of the Constitution.
And the patriots will be people who either resign or join up and say, we will not allow you to destroy the law.
You must follow the law.
So many cops in these cities are breaking the law and don't care.
They would rather follow orders than the law.
But who will hold the governor accountable for unlawful order?
Isn't it true that people in the military have a requirement to defy unlawful orders?
lydia smith
I don't know.
We'll look it up.
tim pool
Somebody tweeted that, saying this is one of the big problems.
Like, in the military, if you're given an unlawful order, you say no.
It's against the law.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And the police, though, are just like, sure.
adam crigler
I mean, they took an oath to defend this country to anything foreign and domestic.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
That's in the oath, isn't it?
tim pool
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know.
adam crigler
You know, it's interesting too because there's a particular somebody who has been quite vocal on my Facebook page and yet can't stand the governor.
I'm like, well, here's this information from your governor.
How do you describe?
Oh, well, the governor's the worst man.
He's the worst.
He's like, well, why are you fighting me?
Why what are you fighting right now?
I don't understand because what I'm saying, I'm with you.
He is the worst.
That's what I'm saying right now.
The Democrats are ruining these countries or these these cities.
tim pool
Yes, it is.
adam crigler
You know, these states pay basically they are they're ruining them.
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
tim pool
I'm going to jump back to make sure I don't miss any of the earlier Super Chats.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Longdong John says, Would Section 230 reform still help if the social media platforms decide to offshore?
Can it be enforced against what would then be foreign companies?
Yes, they wouldn't be able to operate.
But it's interesting because I don't think they would just block the website, so I have no idea how that would work.
That's one of the problems.
adam crigler
Something to think about.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet that Facebook's gonna go, okay, we'll go to China.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Congratulations.
What else did you get?
What else do you do?
The Brat says, my favorite podcast eclipsing beauty and the beta.
Tim, no matter who you vote for, still love ya.
Lydia, T.Y.
for having a camera to see you.
Adam, a heartbreaker.
Soy Jesus, spin that S-hit.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I hear ya.
I'm gonna spin that S-it.
tim pool
TheJoker201 says, you keep telling us to speak up, but you have the platform to lead.
How can we stand up without support of people?
If every single person, literally every single person who opposed cancel culture just went out in the street right now and started yelling, no cancel culture, the whole country would change overnight.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But everyone keeps saying, they believe in the silent majority, but won't say anything because they don't actually believe in the silent majority.
If you believe the silent majority was real, you would go on your porch right now and yell MAGA or Trump.
adam crigler
That is exactly what I'm doing.
I am doing that right now.
I'm challenging the people that I know personally in my life, challenging them to do their own research.
And for the people who say this to us, that we have a platform to lead, what do you think we're doing here?
What do you think we're doing?
We're critically thinking about the problems that are facing us right now.
If you're here, you are part of the conversation and you are doing it too.
And that's what we need.
tim pool
But you need to look.
If you work for a company and someone comes to your office, or to your cubicle, or to your station, and they're like, we want you to sign this letter, then you should say no.
I think that'll put a target on my back, and I'm really scared about the state of politics right now, and I think this is inappropriate for our workplace.
I respect what you're saying, I understand, but I think you're gonna put me in harm's way, and that scares me.
That's a neutral way to actually challenge this.
You have so many companies where they're going to put out these brand statements.
Brand respects group of people.
And you don't have to come out and say, MAGA, Trump, free speech, and all that stuff, and I refuse, or Blue Lives Matter, or defend the police.
You can literally be like, I think you're putting me at risk.
I think you're going to make the white supremacists come after me.
Don't do it.
Stop.
And that's enough to stop, you know, the extremism, this constant spread of this ideology.
When it comes to the people roaming the streets, there needs to be protests.
Now, to be fair, Blue Lives Matter protests were massive across the country.
There were big protests this past weekend or whatever.
adam crigler
There was.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then I even have a story right now, I think.
Did I actually pull it up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look at this.
Pro-police agitators and Black Lives Matter protesters clash in Brooklyn.
Look at this.
Agitators.
lydia smith
And protesters.
tim pool
Protesters.
But at least the people came out to defend what they thought was right.
Pro-police agitators.
Oh, spare me.
adam crigler
They're protesting.
tim pool
Yep.
They're all protesting.
Everybody.
Look, that's where it starts.
adam crigler
Time Magazine.
tim pool
You're up against the media.
adam crigler
Great narrative.
Nice narrative, Time Magazine.
I used to respect you.
tim pool
Look what they say about Dave Rubin.
You know what I mean?
The things they say about this guy.
He hosts a talk show, and they accuse him of platforming people.
They'll accuse him of the most ridiculous things, taking money from the Koch brothers to fund Far Right, blah blah blah, whatever.
It's like, what are you talking about?
The Koch Brothers did some event with George Soros or something.
Like, the Koch Brothers are industrialists.
They're not in agreement with what Dave Rubin is doing.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Not necessarily.
I think the bigger concern from a lot of people is the Mercers, not the Koch Brothers.
But it's like a narrative.
So when you get someone like Dave who's actually gonna sit down with someone and have a conversation, that's not supposed to be, you know, not part of the mainstream narrative.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They will lie.
They will try to cancel him.
And sometimes it works against a lot of people.
They've been canceled, have been banned, lost their income.
Well, yeah.
You know when you skateboard?
You fall.
Adam got a big ol' bloody gash on his ankle.
And guess what?
He was skating just the other day.
lydia smith
What's that called?
Paying your dues?
tim pool
Paying your dues.
adam crigler
And you know what?
I'll have bloody ankles again one day.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Because I'm not gonna stop.
tim pool
The cost of tre flip is high.
But it's a price I'm willing to pay.
And I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one.
So if you wanna land a tre flip, that means you might bang up your ankles.
But if I'm the only one, then so be it.
But I'm willing to bet I'm not.
lydia smith
You're here.
adam crigler
You're here, Tim.
lydia smith
I'm inspired.
adam crigler
I am so patriotic right now.
tim pool
Once again, ripping off Captain America.
unidentified
Yeah, that's sad, man.
tim pool
says grant in the horror passed away last night rep a great scientist yeah
He's 49.
that's sad man yet is forty nine so young that is rad He was one of the Mythbusters guys, so I don't know.
adam crigler
His optimistic nature was just infectious.
That whole show, they were all having fun with science and it was great.
tim pool
But now, some of them are just becoming Orange Man Bad cultists, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
I mean, it happens.
tim pool
That's so weird, man.
adam crigler
It is the narrative, though.
It's everyone... It's contagious.
Oh, man, I don't even want to get into it anymore.
tim pool
Cuddle Panda says those volcano sharks are proof Sharkboy and Lavagirl are real.
Jay Merger says the Babylon 5 storyline is coming.
Respect the chain of command.
Civilians are not supposed to order the military.
Brie Evans says, Hi guys, found out my younger brother watches you guys too and he said, we're cast buddies.
Thanks for providing something for us to bond over while being thousands of miles apart.
Spin the UFO for Hawaii and Maryland.
adam crigler
Oh, that's cool.
Bringing family together.
I love it.
I'm spinning that for you guys.
For both of you.
lydia smith
Two for one.
tim pool
From C to Shining C. Heavy Arms Guy says, got my Twitter temporarily suspended for criticizing Nick Cannon's comment against specific ethnic individuals.
Thanks 2020.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's what he said was so insane.
adam crigler
Racist?
tim pool
Beyond racist.
Black identity extremism.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And we lived on that street where that black identity extremist killed that Latino and that Asian cop.
That's true.
We've seen it firsthand right in front of our home.
What people like Nick Cannon bring about.
They need to be called out.
But you know what?
What they say is allowed.
It's on Twitter, nobody cares.
adam crigler
He straight up says he's spouting the words of Farrakhan.
tim pool
It's beyond that.
He is calling certain races subhuman.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Think about what Molyneux got banned for.
adam crigler
That's exactly it.
tim pool
That's what their argument is.
unidentified
It was way worse than what he said.
tim pool
I don't know the full details, but Molyneux was basically using metaphors about predator and prey and stuff like that.
That was enough.
But to be fair again, I don't watch.
Didn't watch.
So I want to be careful about, you know, my criticisms or statements about Molyneux.
I didn't watch his content, so.
But Nick Cannon just comes out right out and says it.
He's like, I'm gonna be careful here, but here's the thing.
adam crigler
I'm gonna be careful saying this, but I'm dropping bombs.
tim pool
Racist, supremacist.
adam crigler
Racist bombs.
tim pool
And they allow it.
They allow it.
adam crigler
It's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Welcome to 2020, huh?
Alright, let's see.
Where are we at?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Philip Hunter says, I've been following since Occupy.
Love the trajectory you're on.
Do you guys believe we should help those who ask for it and align with our interests?
adam crigler
Are you talking about states, you think?
In general?
Or maybe the countries?
Because we were talking about policing the world in a sense.
tim pool
Oh, I see, I see, I see.
adam crigler
Could have been either or.
tim pool
I'd say the answer is half yes.
adam crigler
While we already do help everybody in a sense, you know, I think bringing, doing what Trump is
doing, he's trying to make America really strong. And I think we can do that. We can show, we are
on the forefront of showing what it's like to be free and maintain that freedom. And we are at a
very pivotal moment in our, in our history of, of America.
We're still considered young.
We're a young country.
We're still figuring things out.
And we're at a very, very crucial point that it could just spiral out of control.
And there's a lot of people that want to see that happen.
And we need to stand up and stop it.
tim pool
From the ashes of the old, they will build anew.
The chaos vote, the far left, they want to destroy everything because the only way for them to create their new world is to destroy the old one.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Firefox says, I've decided to call all police that just follow orders oath breakers.
Spin that UFO clockwise, please.
adam crigler
I'll do that.
You got it.
tim pool
Other direction.
adam crigler
Specifically asked.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't do this often, but I guess I don't really want to make a thing.
I'm finding it... I'm resisting it some re... I'll do it.
unidentified
Come on, you gotta do it.
tim pool
Well, while he's spinning it, make sure to follow me on Twitter and Instagram, at TimCast.
You can follow at AdamKrigler on Instagram, Twitter as well.
And both of us are on Parler, of course.
And then you also have at Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Yes, I'm all of those places as well, including Parler.
tim pool
L-Y-D-S for Lids.
adam crigler
And please go follow AdamCastIRL.
This weekend I'm going to be doing a deep dive onto Donald Trump, and it's going to be really interesting.
Ian Crossland joins me.
We did an episode last Saturday, basically introducing ourselves, saying who we are, kind of our path a little bit.
We talk about little video games.
We're both gamers.
But this Saturday is going to be a big episode because we're going to be talking about Trump and doing a deep dive into who he is, what he's doing, Look fat.
lydia smith
What is he doing over there?
What the heck?
unidentified
You think you know about Trump?
Well, you know the thing.
tim pool
The thing about Trump and what we're doing.
unidentified
So you don't, Adam, cast IRL.
tim pool
We have a Joe Biden now.
We have a Joe Biden now.
adam crigler
That's great.
I really enjoy it.
tim pool
I think we do need a Trump.
lydia smith
We do.
tim pool
We need a Trump.
lydia smith
Yep.
I'm going to see if we can find it.
tim pool
We need a China button.
And we need a cheap election.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
We have so much.
tim pool
All of them.
Should we just buy a couple of these things?
adam crigler
No, they're made in China.
Let's not do that.
lydia smith
Let's see if we can find it somewhere else.
adam crigler
I'd rather not.
lydia smith
Let's find somewhere else.
tim pool
Um, Mac Grendel says, Tim, you're doing good work.
I don't mean just quality.
I mean good.
You're pointing to the deception of the American people.
Thank you.
Well, I do appreciate it.
adam crigler
Yep.
That's right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Oh, Perry does mapping, says spin the UFO.
adam crigler
I'm going to spin it.
tim pool
Anyways, I've been following you for three years since high school and you have helped me shape my political views and whatnot.
I used to be a far left crazy until I stumbled upon you.
Ever since then, I have been a right centrist.
unidentified
Very cool.
Nice.
tim pool
You know, I think the center is a pretty savvy spot to be.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's where most people are.
tim pool
Both sides don't like it, you know why?
They both say the exact same thing.
They say centrists are people who, you know, can't stand up for what's right and are too scared.
They go whichever the way wind takes them.
People who stand in the middle of the road tend to get run over, they say.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Centrists are people who understand the left has some good arguments, the right has some good arguments, and we need to figure out what the best arguments are.
adam crigler
Here, here.
Different continent?
tim pool
That's true.
They're like, they went trekking into the forest.
side of the road. The left is like on the other side of town.
Different continent? I can't even see where they're at.
adam crigler
So they're like they went trekking into the forest. And they're somewhere deep into the forest. I'd be willing to
tim pool
bet the people who think they're center right are probably
center left. But the Overton window
window is being pushed so far.
There was a funny thing I did.
I did this. I've mentioned it before. I did the political
compass test and I'm center left libertarian, like left leaning
libertarian.
I did. I did one with Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change and
he's right leaning libertarian.
And then we put these videos and a lot of people were shocked to
find they were actually left leaning and they didn't know.
Because the Overton window is now basically like, if you're not Stalin, then you're literally Hitler.
So there are people who are like, well, because I'm not a communist, I must be conservative.
And it's like, actually, you might not be.
adam crigler
I'm more conservative than you.
I took the test a while back.
tim pool
Are you?
adam crigler
Yeah.
We compared it, and I'm a little bit further to the right than you are.
Which honestly makes sense.
tim pool
I think it's like one quadrant down and to the left like I'm a little like one degree libertarian left from you Yeah, yeah, but it's it's obvious.
We're pretty close a lot I think a lot of people who grew up in cities who do similar things to us have similar views true And those views do not mesh with the current iteration of whatever it is the left is authoritarian weirdo dogmatic yeah, whatever I do have to say, though, for everybody that has complained about me on Facebook, on my post, there's an equal amount of people that are hitting me up going, I'm with you.
unidentified
Good.
adam crigler
So, a little shine of light.
tim pool
MB says, thanks for introducing me to Tom McDonald.
I'm a 36-year-old white mom of three and now feel less weird listening to rap at the gym because of his message.
lydia smith
Oh, awesome.
adam crigler
He's awesome.
tim pool
Fighting the power one song at a time.
Also, watch you every night spin the UFO, Adam.
adam crigler
I will do that.
tim pool
Everyone's just going to add Spin the UFO to every Super Chat now.
unidentified
Hey, you know what I'm saying?
adam crigler
It's part of the show.
tim pool
You were doing the 8-bit Bob.
adam crigler
Oh, I was?
unidentified
Yeah.
So it's true.
adam crigler
We do do it.
tim pool
Somebody made an 8-bit graphic of all of us, and we're like bouncing like a video game.
adam crigler
Did you see the Atomcast one?
tim pool
Which one?
Oh, the skateboard.
adam crigler
Same one made the Atomcast for me.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
tim pool
Rad, rad.
adam crigler
Smash that like button!
unidentified
Smash it!
tim pool
Smash.
adam crigler
I want you to smash it.
tim pool
Biden that like button.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
unidentified
Look, look fat.
You gotta, you gotta press the, the, the, the like button, you know.
lydia smith
The thing?
unidentified
The button.
Cause America.
adam crigler
Back when Obama.
Uh, and Trump is bad, but Obama and I smashed it.
I'm bad.
I'm terrible at Biden.
I can't.
I can't.
tim pool
You just gotta say, look fat.
adam crigler
Nah.
Look fat.
I don't like that.
lydia smith
That's all good.
adam crigler
I know it's what he actually said, but.
unidentified
Look fat.
The thing.
tim pool
Omega Hunter says, I don't like it.
Have you thought about extreme victim complexes propped up recently?
Historically, genocide starts with this kind of mentality.
Postscript.
Tim, my father gives you $25 of this super chat.
He's become a fan since I shared this video a few times.
Well, thank you very much.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
tim pool
You see, it is very important that you all spread the good word of Timcast IRL.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And let them know that we've added Joe Biden permanently to the cast.
lydia smith
Yes, he is part of us now.
unidentified
Oh man.
lydia smith
He is inseparable from us.
tim pool
We should get a Joe Biden soundboard too.
Like we have Greta.
We should get a few key phrases.
adam crigler
Yeah, I want a legitimate soundboard.
Let's do it.
tim pool
Yeah, man, we gotta figure that one out.
Hey, if you guys... Go to... I'm not gonna ask, but I'm trying to figure out how to do a soundboard.
Somebody sent us this.
lydia smith
That is so cool.
tim pool
Which is, like, you record a sound... They custom made it, too.
adam crigler
They added, how dare you, on the top.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
And then they glued the thing that lets you record it on the bottom so you can't undo it.
tim pool
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
And when you press it...
adam crigler
It's awesome.
tim pool
But what we need is like a full board that actually sinks into our mixer.
And I bought these mixers and they don't do it.
And so I'm like, man, I am just not the person, you know, we'll have to figure something out.
So how dare you?
Yeah.
How dare you, Joe?
Joe Biden.
Oh, man.
Adrian Curry says, this show is my version of Who Watches The Watchmen.
Thanks, guys.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
E. Finn says, three pints for you guys.
You all keep me informed.
I teach media literacy and love your show.
Cheers for the end of the zombie apocalypse.
Well, here's hoping, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Media literacy.
adam crigler
Very cool.
It's gonna end.
It will.
tim pool
Zach Miller says, came in late.
Did you guys address Ghislaine's trial being put off till 2021?
Whoa, really?
You gotta vote for Trump.
That's why.
adam crigler
That's why.
tim pool
Because you know what happens if Biden gets in?
lydia smith
That'll never happen.
adam crigler
Nothing.
tim pool
Ghislaine Maxwell, tragically, COVID, took her own life.
lydia smith
Very sad.
tim pool
Somebody tweeted when Epstein got arrested.
They're like, so if he kills himself, we all riot, right?
And it went viral.
And then Epstein killed himself, allegedly.
And nobody did anything.
Nobody cared.
Because I don't get it.
Why are there protests?
How come hundreds of thousands of people didn't march through the streets?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't have the answers.
If something happens to Ghislaine, I will march.
unidentified
100%.
Okay.
tim pool
I'm going to hold you to that.
I would do it.
adam crigler
I'm going to hold you to that.
tim pool
If something happens to Ghislaine, Maxwell, COVID, anything, I don't care.
Then I say we need to get rid of every single person from politics.
All the incumbents are gone.
lydia smith
Gotta turn it off and on again.
tim pool
Every single one.
Yep.
lydia smith
Yep.
Absolutely.
adam crigler
Yep.
So, you agree with the crazy left to burn it all down?
tim pool
I didn't say burn it all down.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, that's essentially what they're trying to do.
tim pool
Voting out the incumbents?
adam crigler
Okay, well, that's different than marching out there.
tim pool
Marching in protest.
Demanding that we vote out incumbents.
adam crigler
I want specifics.
tim pool
Yeah, specifically, the left and the right should come together, should march hand in hand, demanding all the incumbents are gone.
adam crigler
So that's what you're going to do.
That's what you're going to specifically march for.
I'm trying to lock you in as much as I can.
tim pool
I would march specifically for that.
Now the left goes out demanding that Trump be arrested because they blame him for on some stupid conspiracy, I wouldn't march.
I'm saying if the left and the right came together, saying we don't, we just want, you know, answers, publish the documents, the video, incumbents out.
unidentified
Okay.
Sure.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
unidentified
Where are we at?
tim pool
Derrida says, politically homeless veteran here.
Use this to help split a vegan sandwich.
unidentified
Oh, how nice.
tim pool
Will do.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
Robert Jorgensen says, I think the big cities are in a universe 25 situation.
What is that?
unidentified
I don't know.
Let me look.
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
Tom, thanks for the super chat.
And what else we got?
Just more calls.
Talbot says, always a good time with y'all.
Spin the warudo.
Well, you gonna spin it?
adam crigler
I'll count it.
tim pool
It's past ten.
adam crigler
It's the magic word, spin.
tim pool
It's past ten.
So what you need to do right now is make sure you subscribe, because if you didn't, you should.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Subscribing seems to be almost meaningless at this point.
It's not really a subscribe button anymore.
It's more of a, I think this channel's really good and you should show it to other people.
It seems like the only thing YouTube really does with any kind of comments Like button, subscription, is tell YouTube to promote the channel.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
So the more you guys engage with, you know, smashing the like button and subscribing, the notification bell, the more likely YouTube is to recommend to other people.
If you think we're doing a good job breaking down the media and talking about these issues in a fair way, then I think it's really important then, you know, that we can talk to more people.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So, yes, I say all the time to speak up.
If you're still unwilling to speak up, at least you could be willing to hit the like button and subscribe in an effort to make sure more people can hear what we have to say, right?
At the very least.
adam crigler
Please.
And we really appreciate it.
Definitely.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
And with that being said, make sure you follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
adam crigler
And you can follow me, Adam Krigler, on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.
You can follow me on my new channel, AdamCastIRL, also.
And I do a show every Saturday night, or that's the plan anyway.
Every Saturday night, 8 to 10, just like this show, just kind of continued on with Ian Crossland.
And we jam out.
It's kind of like a continuation of the Friday after show party.
tim pool
But I get a day off, so.
adam crigler
And Tim gets a day off, and I get to run the show.
It's fun.
tim pool
And you can follow at SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Correct.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
On Twitter and Parler and that's it.
tim pool
So we have mentioned this before, we have a big, big expansion on the way and things are going to be changing soon and there will be positions where probably some kind of hiring in some capacity.
So just stay tuned for the big expansion.
It's going to be awesome.
We're going to have a skate park and a shooting range and it's going to be crazy.
adam crigler
I am excited about it.
tim pool
It's going to be awesome.
lydia smith
I'm so thrilled.
tim pool
But with that being said, it is time for bed.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
Stay tuned for tomorrow.
We'll be back at 8 p.m.
live.
We love you all so much and we will see you all then.
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