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July 2, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - White Woman Draws Gun On Black Family, Gets Arrested For Felony Assault
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adam crigler
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tim pool
01:24:09
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lydia smith
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tim pool
I'll see you here next time.
We'll see you next time.
Law enforcement was able to stop a vicious monster.
This woman who has been tracked down by so many people.
You probably already heard about this.
It's one of the biggest stories in the world.
Oh, I'm not talking about Ghislaine Maxwell.
No, I'm talking about the woman who defended herself in her car at Chipotle.
Yeah, they got her!
Felony assault!
That was the joke, by the way.
lydia smith
What the heck.
adam crigler
That was a good one, dude.
tim pool
They did actually arrest this lady, Maxwell, too.
adam crigler
You got him!
Nice.
You got him!
tim pool
They got her, and her husband, too.
They got charged with felony assault.
adam crigler
Yeah, what the heck.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I did a segment on this earlier in the morning, and then I didn't actually see the video, which is stupid of me.
I should have definitely seen it.
adam crigler
The full video?
tim pool
Yeah, because she's clearly, I would say... Being antagonized?
Well, I was gonna say in the right.
Uh, considering the cultural context of everything happening in this country, and the fact that she was attacked, and she was very calm about it, but they're arresting her.
They charged her and her husband with felony assault.
adam crigler
You may have seen the video.
She was surprisingly calm, actually.
I, I was... Yeah.
It's like, she, she was keeping her cool, like, look, I don't wanna, I don't want this, like, I'm just, I'm just trying to get in my car and bounce out of there, and they're like, no no no, we're gonna make this a thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And they did.
tim pool
So there's actually a bunch of videos going around right now where you have Black Lives Matter activists trying to accuse unsuspecting white people of being racist.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So there's one video that I shared where this guy gets out of his car and he walks up to his storefront and there's a sign in the window.
It says, no man ever got shot doing the dishes.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's an old joke about pleasing your wife.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's what it's about.
And these Black Lives Matter activists put Posters all over the building so the guy walks up confused like there's nobody around and he starts pulling him off and they Ambush him and they're like, why are you taking out our signs?
Are you racist?
You're racist.
adam crigler
He's just like no, I just this is my business I'm just trying to clean up the front of my building.
tim pool
No, he's actually just confused like, huh?
adam crigler
Yeah, he's like what later on in the video he explains.
tim pool
Yeah, he was like, oh, it's my bought the building It's my store and then why taking out our signs and he's like I I'm just taking him off But he has no idea what's happening.
These are the regular Americans who probably, you know, you can see the look on his face.
We're like 10 minutes in where these two guys are screaming that he's racist.
The look on his face just, it goes blank and his eyes are glazed over.
And the only thing I could assume, I can read his mind.
adam crigler
I can read his mind.
tim pool
You know what he's thinking?
I'm voting for Trump.
I have no idea what's going on anymore, but what, no I'm kidding by the way.
But I'd imagine that after that happened, he went and talked to people, and probably got a bunch of hate on Facebook.
adam crigler
Maybe.
tim pool
Just a bunch of people being like, you're so dumb!
You're racist!
And he's probably like, what's happening?
I didn't do anything!
It's just a poster in my door!
adam crigler
I'll tell you what though, it makes me want to call him up and repair some furniture.
tim pool
Yeah, he's a furniture repair guy.
And it's funny because the funny thing about this video is that the wife and the guy just standing there confused Yeah, they weren't even just like looking at looking at each other like not doing anything right like whether being berated Anyway, there's a lot of there's a lot of videos like this that are popping up and this Chipotle incident If you if you haven't heard is it's basically this apparently like some lady was leaving and bumped into a girl and then just like Didn't they were like excuse you and then she didn't say anything.
So they surround her her yelling at her.
Yeah Not the videos gone viral because the white woman pulled a gun out and we're gonna break We're gonna break all this down because it actually looked when you watch the full video even on reddit on The front reddit, which is like typically far left the front page on all The comments are like whoa when you actually see the full video It's the family that caused the problem and attacked the white woman and the woman was defending herself.
Yeah, it seems like we're gonna talk about that What's the other thing we have we got?
adam crigler
What are we talking about?
We got that Harvard- Oh, New York, fining people for the contact trace.
$2,000 a day?
Yeah.
Yeah, if you don't participate in their contact tracing program, you're subpoenaed for $2,000 a day.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
That's insane.
That's dictator stuff.
Dictator Cuomo.
tim pool
I just leave.
adam crigler
Peace out, New York.
I'm glad I don't live there anymore.
tim pool
So apparently some people went to a party, and now they're like, nah, we're gonna contact Tracee and track everyone you've ever talked to, and they're like, nah.
I'm like, okay, then we're gonna charge you $2,000 per day.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's insane.
Yeah, so there was, I don't wanna say I was in an argument, because it's not an argument when people are just screeching at you, when I'm trying to give them an actual conversation about things.
It's like, hey, where's your sores on?
They were complaining that New York's shutting down again, because stupid people were going to bars, and I'm like, bars?
I just kind of like did a sarcastic really just the bars huh nice you know they came back with like all this like these all different tweets and sources and you know they they posted a bunch of things from Forbes and all this other stuff and I'm like wow okay well let me read all your stuff and I read all it and they're like there's no proof that the the protest caused more COVID stuff here's the proof and I was like okay I read it And right in the middle of their sighting was basically them going, well, now we, it's like a Snopes article.
We don't know actually if it causes anything or not or if it, you know, but we know that they went to the bar.
So that's the reason.
It's just like, that doesn't prove anything.
There's no actual evidence here.
tim pool
When you have all these articles saying that the anti-lockdown protests were spreading COVID, and now they're like, actually Black Lives Matter is slowing COVID.
Everyone goes, well, they're wearing masks, duh.
And it's like, yes.
adam crigler
So was the anti-lockdown protest.
tim pool
The mask issue became, it was a recent thing where people are refusing to wear masks.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You're just, you know what I tweeted?
I said, this is religion level gullibility.
And then a whole bunch of lefties got super triggered by that.
unidentified
They were like, tell them the facts, speak for themselves.
tim pool
And I'm like, do they?
The facts that change like three times a day.
No sane person has any idea what's happening right now.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know what they're doing?
It's like they're peppering us with conflicting information across the board.
But there's one common through line.
adam crigler
What's that?
tim pool
Can you guess?
adam crigler
Protesting doesn't cause COVID?
tim pool
Orange man bed.
adam crigler
I should have, how did I not guess that?
Man.
tim pool
Orange man bed.
adam crigler
Can't believe it.
tim pool
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adam crigler
I was so ready for that.
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adam crigler
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I don't want anyone's phones breaking, computer screens breaking.
So go borrow someone else's computer.
lydia smith
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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tim pool
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tim pool
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lydia smith
I know what he's talking about.
adam crigler
I'm gonna do absolutely nothing.
tim pool
That's right.
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lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
And if you tell anybody... I'm kidding.
lydia smith
No, no.
Tell everyone.
unidentified
Tell everybody.
adam crigler
So let's... Or tell nobody.
tim pool
Whatever.
adam crigler
You know.
lydia smith
Punish them with us.
tim pool
But also, yeah, if you want to get your Super Chats in, we read a handful every show.
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unidentified
Do it.
What?
tim pool
Is this woman a Karen the answer is no hmm. No, they're trying to they're calling her Karen
And there are a bunch of videos coming out like this where there it's people start filming and they're like you're a
Karen You're Karen and there's people going like what I I'm sorry
adam crigler
what's happening? She really is not a Karen this lady No, no, she was she was being actually polite
Like, look, I don't want to fight.
I'm sorry that you're upset with me right now.
I'm just trying to leave.
I was like, wow, how does this?
And then, boom.
It kind of escalated really quickly.
Yeah, go ahead.
tim pool
The quick context is basically this lady's walking at Chipotle.
Apparently she bumps into this 15-year-old girl.
The girl then says, excuse you, and the family starts yelling at the white woman.
The video starts with the white woman being like, please, just, like, let me go to my car, you're, you're blocking me, and they're yelling, apologize, apologize, and she's like, I'm, I'm sorry, you feel that way, you know, you're blocking my car, then the husband comes over, move, like, walks up, they move out of the way, she gets in the car, and then they're all screaming and yelling and filming.
Then, I guess the mother goes behind the vehicle as the van as they're trying to leave and then hits it, I think, three times.
Like, bangs on it.
Like, oh, you're trying to hit me now.
But she clearly walked in front of the- It's like insurance fraud.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
tim pool
You know, walked behind the vehicle.
adam crigler
They were just trying to leave, right?
tim pool
But then she hits it several times and then the white woman jumps out and that's where we see this picture.
Here we enter.
She pulls out her gun and it looks like she's so this is another trick that that's really interesting. Proper
adam crigler
trigger discipline No, no, check it out. Check it out
tim pool
They're saying she aimed the gun right at the woman because in in this photo in this snip of the video
It looks like the gun is pointed straight at the woman in reality
She actually had the gun aimed slightly downward you can you can argue that it's right or wrong or whatever
But it wasn't pointed directly at the woman in her face Yeah.
The woman was holding her phone at, you know, chest height while she was filming, and so with the gun being pointed down, it looks like that's just a perspective issue.
That's, you know, her phone.
adam crigler
And actually, it kind of looks like she's yelling at the woman, and she's, like, kind of looking this way, and her gun's aimed down to the left a little bit, too.
Right, yeah.
tim pool
Not at the woman.
adam crigler
Yeah, like, kind of off to the side a little bit.
tim pool
So this woman, you know, basically hits the car.
You can see it in the full video.
She jumps out and says, get back, get the F back.
And the woman keeps walking towards her.
adam crigler
Oh, you're going to put a gun on me?
I'm going to get closer to you.
lydia smith
Yeah, how weird.
adam crigler
She's like getting away from her.
tim pool
She's backing up to back to the other side of the van, screaming, screaming, get the F back.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then she finally lowers the weapon, gets in the car, and then you hear the people filming, like, crying, saying, these white people are racist, they're calling the police.
lydia smith
Because the cops showed up, yeah.
tim pool
But, interestingly, one of the first things you hear is from this white woman, when they're surrounding her and screaming at her, they're saying, we're gonna beat your A, we're gonna beat you up or whatever, and she's telling her husband, call the police, call the police now.
And they didn't, and they should've.
adam crigler
They should've.
tim pool
And so after all this is done, they get arrested.
So this is the update right here, let's check this out.
Insider reports, a white woman who pointed, She pointed her gun at a black woman and her 15-year-old daughter outside of Chipotle has been arrested.
I guess whether or not she actually pointed at them is semantic.
They say video of the confrontation in Orion Township, Michigan was posted to Facebook.
The woman's husband has also been charged with felonious assault.
The Oakland County Sheriff's Office said in a press release Thursday afternoon that they investigated the incident and arrested the woman and her husband and that their names will be released after they're arraigned.
Tequila Hill told the Detroit News that the confrontation began when the woman now facing charges bumped into her 15-year-old daughter, Michaela Green.
Green and Hill demand an apology and proceed to call the woman ignorant and racist.
As the woman walked to her car, a man, presumably the woman's husband, got out of the vehicle and told Hillen Green,
Who the f do you guys think you are? Who do you think you guys are?
And then she said, you can't just walk around calling white people racist. White people aren't racist.
I care about you and I'm sorry if you had an incident that has made someone make you feel like that. No one is racist.
How about that?
Is that not an apology for what happened?
adam crigler
I'm sorry if you had an incident that made someone... I mean, it's not an apology for bumping into the person, which is what they were demanding from her.
tim pool
The problem is they're always demanding more.
adam crigler
It's entitlement.
I'm owed everything that I want.
tim pool
I gotta say, man, I wouldn't be surprised if she actually said sorry about that.
And they said, no, no, you know, and then started filming.
adam crigler
Like, actually, like, oh, excuse me.
tim pool
You know what, man?
adam crigler
It's like, no, no, no, we don't want an excuse me.
I want an apology.
tim pool
I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the woman with the gun because of the video.
Because it shows she's very calm saying please.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
So I'm willing to bet that before it all started, she did something like she bumped into the daughter and then they're like, excuse you.
And she's like, oh, sorry.
And then they're like, no, well, we want a real apology.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's my bias.
adam crigler
Not a throwaway apology like what you just did.
tim pool
That's my speculation and bias, to be totally fair.
But based on what I saw, maybe you can argue that it was too much under normal circumstances for her to exit her vehicle with her gun.
adam crigler
And yet, but we're seeing, like you said earlier, we're seeing people getting shot in their cars.
lydia smith
Yeah, these aren't normal circumstances.
adam crigler
When they're actually antagonizing her and Threatening to beat her up.
Yeah, she looked nervous.
tim pool
Surrounding her vehicle.
adam crigler
She was trying to simmer the situation down.
Like, look, she had her hands up.
Like, whoa, you know, like, look, I'm not trying to, you know, piss anyone off.
lydia smith
They're threatening her.
adam crigler
She's like, I'm just trying, she just got in her car.
She's like, I'm just getting into my car.
She's like, look, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that this has happened like this.
Close the windows.
And it's like, okay.
tim pool
How about we speculate to the most speculative degree we can speculate?
adam crigler
Oh, I love speculating like that.
tim pool
She was holding her stomach.
adam crigler
This is what I thought.
I'll say it.
You want me to say it?
I don't know, but I have a lot of women that have been pregnant in my family and I've seen the protective nature when a pregnant woman, I'm not saying she is pregnant, but she was holding her belly and kind of like keeping back, holding her hand on her belly.
I don't know if she was pregnant or not, but her stance and her defensive nature, like trying to calm it all down, I don't know.
I don't know if she was.
I don't know if she is.
And I'm sorry, woman, if you were.
Or weren't, rather.
tim pool
It's such a perfect offensive situation.
Oh, so you're pregnant.
I'm not pregnant.
Ah, so you're fat.
lydia smith
Oh, it's not like she looks like she's pregnant.
adam crigler
Well, she just walked out of Chipotle, so she could have a burrito baby.
tim pool
She ordered an overstuffed double meat, extra avocado, and she's holding her stomach like, I am so full and all these people are yelling at me.
adam crigler
No, but I know that hold though.
You're holding your belly.
You protect important stuff.
It's like, I've seen that.
I get that.
tim pool
It could just be her trying to protect her stomach in case they're gonna try and hit her or something.
adam crigler
I don't know.
She was clearly feeling attacked.
tim pool
Maybe.
adam crigler
I mean, you even said it, that they were gonna beat her up.
They said it.
lydia smith
They said it, yeah.
tim pool
Maybe she had to take a big dump.
adam crigler
That's assault.
tim pool
Maybe she had to, you know, go number two.
And she's sitting there and they're surrounding her and she's thinking to herself like, oh man, I've got a good five minutes to make it to that golden throne.
And these people are blocking my way.
adam crigler
So you're going with the burrito baby side of it?
tim pool
No, I'm going with South Park's Chipotle way joke.
unidentified
Remember that one?
tim pool
Chipotle way?
adam crigler
No, I don't know that one.
tim pool
Cartman complains that he loves Chipotle, but he can't figure out how to get the bloodstains out of his underwear.
unidentified
Gross.
tim pool
I don't know what that joke was supposed to mean.
That's disgusting.
Anyway, no, but in all seriousness, you know, you're not the only one who thought that.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Like people have mentioned.
adam crigler
So that's going around?
tim pool
Yeah.
She could just be guarding her stomach.
adam crigler
Yeah, who knows?
And I'm not gonna- Her stance did, it seemed like, I don't know anything.
I'm just going on the full context of the video itself.
tim pool
I think it was a defensive position.
I don't think it was anything related to pregnancy or anything.
I think it's just like, protect your soft underbelly from predators.
You know what I mean?
Curl up into a little ball and then roll away.
That's what she's doing.
Well, check this out.
Here's what they say.
They say, Hill stepped back as the couple got into their car and rolled their windows up.
But as the driver backed out of the vehicle, she hit the back of it, believing she was going to be struck.
This is the craziest thing to me, how the media is framing this.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's insane.
She walked back there and you hear her say, oh, they tried to hit me.
They were pulling away from the situation.
You bolted to get behind the van.
You were trying to stop her from leaving.
Yeah, you were trying to stop them.
What did you want to have happen?
unidentified
What was your goal?
adam crigler
You wanted something like this to go down.
tim pool
Now here's what's scary.
Because of what's going on around the country, I would not argue what she did was inappropriate.
In my earlier segment, I hadn't seen the full context of what happened, but I did mention that, hey man, look, if you hit someone's vehicle, if you go behind their car or whatever and you start hitting on it, Yeah.
And they jump out with a gun, maybe you should pay attention to the news.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Because if they have seen the mass shooting in Louisville, if they saw the 300 rounds
fired at that SUV in the Chazz, or the guy in Provo who ran up and shot somebody for
no reason.
Just for driving.
You gotta understand.
So the question is, without seeing the full context, even in the way they frame it, is
it going to be considered unreasonable when even the woman admits she hit the vehicle?
She struck the vehicle thinking she'd be hit.
Well then, okay, so at the very worst case we can say, bad hair day, huh?
Bad hair day.
You thought you were gonna get hit, you didn't realize, she didn't know you were there, and then she panicked.
adam crigler
She clearly ran behind the car.
unidentified
Oh, totally.
tim pool
You can see it.
adam crigler
I know.
In the full video, it's like, it's very clear.
She runs back there to try to stop him, to try to be like, oh, you hit me.
She yells it.
They tried to hit me.
It's like, what?
tim pool
And then the woman, the one with the gun yells, don't jump behind my car.
lydia smith
This makes me so mad because this article is saying, believing she would be hit Right.
She did X, Y, and Z, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, don't assume what she was thinking.
adam crigler
That's what mainstream media does.
tim pool
All right, well, how about we check out what the Washington Post said?
lydia smith
Oh, let's see.
tim pool
You guys are going to love this one.
adam crigler
Yeah, I love checking them.
lydia smith
I'm super ready.
Let's go.
tim pool
You ready for this?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's going to make your blood boil.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
She's got the gun on me.
Video shows white woman pulling pistol on black mother, daughter in Michigan.
adam crigler
Oh, way to spin that.
tim pool
You ready for this?
adam crigler
No, I'm not.
tim pool
First, the white woman bumped into Tequila Hill's teenage daughter.
Then her husband seemed to try to hit the black Michigan mother with their minivan.
lydia smith
Whoa, sinister.
tim pool
And just moments later, Hill found herself in a suburban Detroit parking lot staring into the muzzle of a pistol as the woman aimed her weapon at Hill and yelled for her to move back.
You effing jumped behind my car, the woman said, later shouting, back the eff up.
The startling confrontation, which was partly caught on camera Wednesday afternoon, quickly went viral overnight.
As of Thursday afternoon, video of the confrontation had been viewed about 12 million times on Twitter.
I am deeply disturbed by an incident last night where a woman pointed a cocked gun at another woman during an argument.
The behavior is unacceptable, Oakland County Executive David Coulter said in a statement Thursday.
Now, yeah, the woman, she actually, she cocks it.
lydia smith
I heard it, yeah.
She's ready, man.
tim pool
But look how the media plays it.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
They have framed it in the worst possible way.
Now here's what's crazy.
You go to reddit.com slash all, r slash r slash all.
Reddit just banned the Donald and 2,000 subreddits, right wing LGBT, it is not a right wing place.
And I'm sitting back, you know, we're like, we're just finishing dinner and I'm looking at my phone and I'm scrolling and I open it up and like one of the top posts on the front page is here's the full video of what happened in Michigan.
And I went, what's this?
Like the full video?
People have been uploading short clips where the only thing you see is the white woman pointing the gun, screaming, get back.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So somebody uploaded the full version and it made it to the top of Reddit.
And in the comments, everyone's going like, whoa, the family crossed the line.
adam crigler
Definitely did.
tim pool
And then the crazy thing is, so I'm like, I read through these comments and they're all saying things like, the woman was clearly scared and threatened, they said they were gonna beat her up, they hit her car, she had a reasonable fear of harm, maybe it doesn't justify pulling out a gun, but if someone threatens to cause you physical harm, and then surrounds your vehicle, maybe you get out and tell them to back up so you can get out of there.
adam crigler
And that's exactly what she did.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Back up.
Right now.
Back up.
And they did.
tim pool
After a minute, the woman was walking towards her.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
But when she finally started backing up, she was like, okay.
Got back in the car and they took off.
It's like, alright.
That's exactly what she probably wanted to have happen.
tim pool
So I'm scrolling Reddit a little bit more, and then I come across a graphic, I can't remember what subreddit it was from, but it was a screenshot of a bunch of different Reddit posts that were all taking things out of context, and they were like, do better.
And the comments, once again, were like, I keep seeing the snipped version, the short version, and when you watch the full thing, you're like, man, this lady was trying her hardest to keep everything calm and get out of there.
adam crigler
She was.
tim pool
And so why did she draw the weapon?
She's one woman, surrounded by three or four other people screaming at her, refusing to let her leave, and threatening her.
So they're trying to get the car out.
The woman goes behind the car and starts hitting it.
They can't get out, so she gets out with her gun and says, get away from us!
lydia smith
So the other thing that I don't think we've talked about is that her two daughters were in the car too.
So I think she had her two daughters with her.
adam crigler
Oh wow.
Seriously?
The woman who pulled the gun?
lydia smith
The woman who pulled the gun.
Half the reason that she was probably this defensive is because she had her family in the car.
adam crigler
Not surprising at all.
Trying to keep it calm.
Trying to simmer the situation down and leave.
They wouldn't let that happen.
lydia smith
She's saying they were all traumatized.
It's ridiculous.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
You know what scares me about this?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
They're straight up telling you you can't protect your business.
You can't defend yourself.
Have you guys seen, I tweeted this out, shout out to Seamus of Freedom Tunes.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness, it's amazing.
tim pool
And I don't know if you guys have seen Freedom Tunes, but you really should check out Freedom Tunes on YouTube.
It's really good.
So one of his latest cartoons, it's making fun of the St.
Louis couple who are holding their guns wrong.
He's holding it backwards.
But a bunch of Antifa and far-leftists march onto his property, and then he yells, get off my property.
They see him holding the gun, and they start crying, and then they're all crying, and then it shows people on the news crying, and then MSNBC hosts are crying, and then he goes, okay, okay, I'll get rid of the gun.
He puts it down, and then he goes, no, and then all of a sudden Antifa goes, get him!
And they run up and start beating him up.
That's kind of what it feels like.
You've got, like we mentioned before we started the segment, there's a video going around Where this guy gets out of his car, and he walks up to his business.
It's a new—he just bought it, and there's Black Lives Matter signs all over it.
And so he just starts taking them down.
Then he gets ambushed by two dudes screaming at him, like, why are you tearing down our signs?
Are you racist?
And the guy's confused, like, no, it's my building.
I'm taking the signs down.
And they're screaming at him.
This guy clearly has no idea what's going on.
Yep.
There was a sign in the window that said, um, no man has ever been shot doing the dishes.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Old school joke reference to making your wife happy.
Like, she won't shoot you, you're doing the dishes.
They thought it was a reference to following the law or something.
They went nuts.
And there's this man, this white dude and this white woman are just standing there confused, like hands on their side, not saying anything, looking at each other like, what's happening right now?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Don't hurt me.
Oh yeah.
you're racist, you're Karen.
You see videos like this, and then you see that video of the woman
who got followed by the dude, and then she's shrieking and like shaking, screaming.
adam crigler
Don't hurt me.
tim pool
You're gonna call me a Karen?
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's messed up.
And a lot of people said she overreacted, and I'm like, maybe.
Or maybe she knows what happens to people when they get called Karen.
lydia smith
And he followed her home?
tim pool
What the heck?
Yeah, he followed her home to her house.
lydia smith
What the actual heck?
adam crigler
I think that is the reason why she was more afraid.
That's horrifying.
tim pool
He backed up behind her too, so she couldn't get out if she wanted to.
adam crigler
That's frightening.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
adam crigler
That's frightening.
tim pool
That's why people are buying guns.
Yep.
What's it, 8.3 million?
adam crigler
So far.
Since March.
tim pool
Well, it won't matter.
It won't matter because if you're on your own property and a large group of people break into your private property and you pull out your gun, they're now, I guess the local prosecutor or whatever is trying, I don't know exactly which position it is, they're searching for a crime.
And they've said they're thinking maybe fourth degree assault or intimidation or something like that.
adam crigler
What?
Yep.
tim pool
They're trying to find a crime potential.
adam crigler
They don't have anything, yeah.
So they have nothing.
So it's Russiagate again.
How can we twist this?
tim pool
They can just make it up.
They can be like, we're gonna go for this.
And try and court.
Well now you have this woman.
Think about this.
People can surround you, threaten you with physical harm, and scream in your face.
lydia smith
Hit your car.
tim pool
Hit your car, surround it, and you can't defend yourself.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
Apparently this is what it's like in the UK.
We were talking about this the other day.
Someone will break into your house, and then you're trying to defend yourself, and now you're the criminal.
Just let them break in, I guess.
Unless you're lucky enough to get the cops there before anything bad happens.
But yeah, man, what happens now?
What they'll say is, and they've said it a lot, oh, but you didn't have to kill them, right?
And it's like, yeah, bro, I mean, very few people actually want to kill people.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
But a lot of these stories you hear about self-defense issues where someone dies, they're like, why didn't you try and do something else?
And it's like, adrenaline's pumping.
adam crigler
She literally tried to leave.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
She was trying to leave.
tim pool
And they wouldn't let her.
adam crigler
She was trying to say, please, let me just go.
Like, you know, I'm sorry.
You know what?
You're upset.
I'm trying to leave.
tim pool
Now that I think about it.
adam crigler
She tried to leave.
tim pool
Now that I think about it, the way we've kind of gone through everything, she did the right thing.
adam crigler
I agree.
Especially that she had kids in the car.
I didn't know that.
So you're being attacked.
She didn't know what that pound was.
What if she thought it was a gun?
tim pool
Or a brick.
adam crigler
Or something.
If you're gonna start attacking my car that I have my family in here, get out of the way.
She's trying to leave.
I don't blame her at all.
tim pool
The video starts with her surrounded and she's saying, please you're blocking me from my car.
adam crigler
They won't let her leave.
tim pool
They're saying we're gonna beat you up.
adam crigler
Yeah, assaulting her.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Right.
Did for her, man.
Yep.
Seems like, yep.
She was even shaking.
and leave the woman goes around and hits the car so she can't.
Yep.
What choice does she have?
Right.
Just sit there and pray and wait that things deescalate?
Right.
Or get out and defend yourself.
Not only that, but she had her finger properly on the gun.
Yep.
Seems like she knew what she was doing.
And it was aimed downward and slightly away from the people.
adam crigler
Yep.
From what we've seen.
tim pool
Yelling, get back.
And she started backing up.
Yeah, exactly more space and now they've charged her with felony assault and her husband It's insane morality policing man.
That's what I'm talking about Yeah, the police know that if they charge the family or don't arrest her they'll have a riot so they will violate your rights if it means preventing civil unrest I don't like it at all.
Yeah, me neither, man.
I like civil rights.
We've all seen the video.
When you've got a clear consensus like this, where even the lefties on Reddit are saying straight up, like, nah, man, that's not cool.
adam crigler
It's not.
tim pool
Why is she being arrested?
Now maybe the cops are like, look, you'll be fine, charges will get dropped, whatever.
Prosecutor will say, new evidence has come to light, or something like that.
Maybe.
Or maybe they'll look for a political prosecution, and they'll say, if you don't plead, there's gonna be riots, so, you know, plead.
adam crigler
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
I mean, we'll see what they do, and who actually riots because of this BS.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm not talking about the people who are already rioting.
People who are not rioting.
adam crigler
nonstop no no i'm not talking about the people who are already writing people
tim pool
Yes.
who are not writing you mean what you mean like the regular people who are
getting sick and tired of everything yes yeah uh... is anybody gonna right now that that she got a she
adam crigler
got arrested i think she's there in a letter go
I think they're going to look at this video and be like, ooh.
tim pool
I disagree.
adam crigler
You don't think so?
You think it's going to stick?
tim pool
Chicago just released 817 Black Lives Matter demonstrators who have been arrested.
817.
I'm sorry, they're not released.
All of their charges dropped.
adam crigler
Were they protesters, or were they rioters?
tim pool
Protesters.
So it was low-level, non-violent, protest-related offenses.
So you're gonna get a $2,000 fine because you went to a party in New York, and they're gonna let all these people violating CDC guidelines and city lockdown orders?
No charges!
adam crigler
I don't like anything de Blasio's doing.
tim pool
No, it's Chicago.
adam crigler
No, no, I know, but you referenced the thing in New York.
tim pool
No, that's Cuomo.
That's New York State.
adam crigler
Oh, the whole state is gonna be like that.
I thought it was just the city.
tim pool
Oh, it's the city too.
adam crigler
The city, they're locking down again, so... I mean, I also don't like what de Blasio's doing, but sure, we'll talk about Cuomo too.
I don't like anything he's doing either.
tim pool
Do you know who dropped the charges on these 817 people?
adam crigler
Who?
tim pool
Kim Foxx.
Do you know Kim Foxx's?
adam crigler
No, who's that?
tim pool
She's the prosecutor who dropped the charges on Jussie Smollett.
adam crigler
Oh, interesting.
lydia smith
Isn't that interesting?
tim pool
Interesting how the people who align with her ideology have all their charges...
unidentified
So weird.
lydia smith
Just disappear!
How convenient.
tim pool
All gone.
And she said, well, it's because our budget just can't handle it.
Can't handle it?
What?
It's low-level offenses.
You give them a fine.
Say, 50 bucks, go home.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
They're letting them go.
No issues.
Dude, when you engage in civil disobedience, there is a small price to be paid.
Yeah.
I know.
I work for tons of nonprofits, and they say, you know, there's a line where it's kind of gray, where you are breaking the law, but everyone kind of rolls their eyes and says, we get it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then you get a slap on the wrist charge, and you go home.
To just drop them outright.
Now, I'm not super worried about them dropping the charges for the most part, but you look at what's going on with New York and Fort Worth, and they dropped the charges as well.
In the instance of Fort Worth, it was rioting charges.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So welcome to morality policing.
They arrested this woman on a normal day, she wouldn't have been arrested.
I really don't believe so.
There would've been no arrest.
They would've said, ma'am, you can't surround a vehicle, bang on it, and threaten you're gonna beat somebody up.
She defended herself, nobody got hurt, she went home.
Go home.
I've actually been physically attacked when I was in New York.
And the cops were like, you're okay right now, right?
And I was like, sure, but the guy attacked me.
Go home.
And I'm like, this dude actually hit me.
And they were like, everybody's okay, right?
And I was like, I guess, but shouldn't he get, isn't it a crime?
Go home.
They don't wanna do it.
They won't do it.
You gotta think about like, did the cops really wanna go through the motions of arresting somebody over something like this?
They didn't want to, but they got a viral video situation on their hands.
And they're like, look, I don't want to deal with a riot, so you're under arrest.
adam crigler
Innocent till proven guilty.
tim pool
Isn't that how it goes?
lydia smith
Yeah, that is supposed to be how it goes.
adam crigler
That's how it's supposed to be, right?
tim pool
Did I tell you about that dude Dan Dix in Vancouver?
I think it was Vancouver.
adam crigler
Sounds familiar.
tim pool
He's like an indie journalist guy on YouTube, and he went to some rally where Antifa saw him.
They started calling him a Nazi or whatever.
And then they were basically getting up in his face and blocking his camera.
The cops tell him to leave, and he's like, these people are harassing me, and they're like, we don't care.
And then he's like, I'm not leaving because these people are harassing me.
So then the cops arrested him.
adam crigler
Wow, really?
tim pool
He was the victim.
He got arrested.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
That's where we're going, man.
lydia smith
That's great.
tim pool
Because, like I said, the police are like, dude, you can't expect me to stop 30 people right now on my own.
I can stop them by arresting you.
I'll violate your rights, and then I'm good.
Easy, right?
lydia smith
It's the loophole.
adam crigler
It's easier to ban the victim than it is to ban the bullies.
lydia smith
Well, we keep the bullies.
adam crigler
We make money.
You're being bullied, you don't like all these other people bullying you, get banned.
lydia smith
Get out, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Get out of here.
It's easier to ban the victim than it is to ban the bullies.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, we keep the bullies, we make money.
You know, you ban the victim.
lydia smith
It's just one person.
tim pool
Yeah, it's just one person.
This is where we're going.
This is where everything's headed.
lydia smith
I like it.
tim pool
And it really is predictable, but the next step is gonna be... I mean, look, I say the next step, but in that story with Dan, he didn't commit any crimes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's one thing if, like, okay, this lady did pull out a weapon.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
There is an argument about whether or not you're allowed to do that.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And the cops have erred on the side of, I'm gonna just give it to the protesters, right?
adam crigler
We'll see.
I mean, she was clearly being baited the whole time.
tim pool
Her husband got arrested, dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, what did he do?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
He talked to them.
tim pool
Yeah, he was in the driver's seat.
So they're clearly going after them for protest ideological reasons.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
Now you've got prosecutors who are favoring an ideology.
You can't go to church, but you can protest.
unidentified
Jesus.
tim pool
Now you've got, what is it, there's like a viral image going around from LA, apparently someone asked the mayor, they were like, you've got all of these protesters out in the street, you know, protesting and you're telling us we can't go out for fireworks or whatever, like how can you reconcile that double standard?
Can't.
Of course not.
I don't know what he said, but the reality is you can't.
You can't.
It's very obvious what's happening.
adam crigler
There's no answer to that.
unidentified
Right now, in the United States... It's hypocrisy at its finest.
tim pool
Yes, but I would say it's worse than that.
It's malicious.
It is nefarious.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
Kim Fox, we know who she is.
We know what she tried doing for Justice Millett.
This dude staged a major hoax that hit the entire country.
And people were going crazy over it.
And when he gets charged with these crimes, she's like, you're good.
Just go home.
I'll drop it.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's not incompetent.
tim pool
That's malicious.
Now 817 demonstrators who were violating CDC lockdown orders, state lockdown orders, charges all dropped.
Don't worry about it.
So there it is.
adam crigler
They're all just chess pieces.
It's all just pieces on a board for somebody.
tim pool
They're telling you right now that if you want your freedom, if you wanna be able to, arguably your freedom, if you want to be able to go outside, if you wanna be able to go to the park and hang out with your friends, you must bend the knee to our ideology, to our new religion.
adam crigler
Yeah, seems like it.
tim pool
And if you say no, they'll arrest you, if the mob comes for you.
This is what worries me.
In the Vancouver story, again, not the United States, they surround him, they attack him, Dan gets arrested.
In this story, you have a fight breaks out, she's threatened, they surround her vehicle, she draws her weapon, she gets arrested.
Brayshard Brooks, Atlanta.
The cop is trying to arrest a guy who was caught driving drunk, passed out in his vehicle, car running.
adam crigler
Starts fighting him.
tim pool
Steals the taser, points it at him, and then within a split second the dude draws his weapon, shoots him three times, immediately renders aid.
Now he's facing, potentially, the death penalty.
Felony murder.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
So what comes next?
The mob will show up to your house, they'll start protesting, the police will say what happened, and they'll accuse you of some fake, ridiculous crime, and the cops will arrest you.
Think about what goes on with this Title IX stuff.
Have you heard a lot of the stories about the college Title IX stuff?
Like false accusations and assault accusations?
What would happen if you woke up, you could wake up one day and the cops are knocking on your door and they're like, we have an arrest warrant for an Adam Krigler.
Is that you?
And you're like, yeah, what for?
And they're like, right.
And you're like, who?
And they're like, you've been accused.
Turn around.
We're not going to tell you the name.
We don't want to tell you anything.
You're under arrest.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
Then you just find yourself in jail.
Then all of a sudden the media is running your name like crazy, all because it takes one.
And what happens is these false accusations, there's no Penalty for the women who make the false claims.
Typically.
Just get away with it.
adam crigler
I know someone personally that... We talked about it.
Yep, that went to jail for two years and then she felt guilty and finally admitted it to someone else and my friend got out because she lied.
She was just upset that he broke up with her.
tim pool
The justice system is crumbling.
adam crigler
She just claimed it and nothing happened to her.
She didn't get in trouble.
He lost two years of his life because he broke up with her.
lydia smith
And now he has a record.
adam crigler
And she just screeched about it.
tim pool
I imagine it would get expunged.
adam crigler
Yeah, it did.
But it doesn't matter.
That's two years of his life is gone.
tim pool
So think about how easy it is.
adam crigler
She didn't get in trouble at all.
tim pool
Think about how easy it is right now that someone will accuse you The mob shows up to your house, they easily find it.
Then the cops show up and they're like, what's going on?
And they demand you must arrest him because he's a criminal.
The cops are gonna be like, it's easier just to arrest the dude than deal with this.
And so they'll walk in, they'll arrest you, and you'll walk out confused, not knowing what's going on.
And then they'll be laughing the whole time.
Have you ever seen the Evergreen videos from the Brett Weinstein situation?
adam crigler
Not really.
tim pool
What did he call that?
I forgot, he has a name for it.
lydia smith
It was a little while ago, I don't remember.
tim pool
So, Evergreen College, but you know what it was about?
adam crigler
Not really.
tim pool
So, I'm gonna give you the simplified version because I'm not gonna be able to recall everything perfectly, but Brett was a professor, his wife was a professor, and he had, there's this holiday where it's called like a day without black people or something, where all the minorities leave to show you how important they are and how, you know, they're taken for granted.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So this year they said we're gonna do the opposite, all the white people have to leave.
And Brett's response was like, well, you can't force people to do something.
If you choose to leave to make a point, that's acceptable.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So they started calling him a racist and all these other things.
And then this big scandal breaks out.
I don't know exactly, you know, I did a documentary on it a couple of years ago, so it's over on the SCNR channel.
But, uh, basically you have these viral clips.
In one of them, the school president or administrator or whatever is talking with his hands and then someone starts complaining that talking with your hands is racist.
So then they're like, put your hands down, put your hands down.
And he puts his hands down and then they all start laughing at him.
It was fake.
They're just a bunch.
It's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a river full of piranhas, man.
adam crigler
It's, it's the new age trolling.
It's starting to hit reality.
tim pool
I think it's almost like... Spilling out of the inner webs.
I mean, it really is a cult, you know?
But as it becomes more and more mainstream, I just call it a religion.
It's literally called intersectionalism, right?
It's this ideology of, you know, only white people are racist.
That's clearly, clearly a fundamentalist, fanatic view of the world.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Like, these people are so, man...
adam crigler
Someone told me today that minorities can't be racist.
lydia smith
What?
adam crigler
They're like, that's not a thing.
They can't be racist.
tim pool
So basically, I can't be racist.
adam crigler
I guess so.
lydia smith
You might be able to be a little bit racist.
tim pool
According to Reddit, they changed this apparently, but they briefly said that you can mock majority groups.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
So if we do this show from Japan, we're allowed to say whatever we want about Japanese people?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the worst imaginable things.
Just like the worst.
adam crigler
Because I don't like that.
Only majority.
I don't want to talk bad about anyone.
That's just, it's not the type of person I am.
I don't like when people complain.
I want to move forward.
I want to like, whenever someone's complaining, I'm like, well, what are you gonna do about it?
And they don't have an answer.
I'm like, I'm done with this conversation then.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know, unless you have an idea or you want to move forward, talk to this person who's pissing you off, like whatever it is.
I'm sick of it.
tim pool
We are dangerously close, but nah, we're in it, man.
adam crigler
We're in it, you're right.
tim pool
A large portion of our government is run by a religious sect.
And they have sin, and confession, and banishment.
Yeah, acolytes, preachers.
lydia smith
Yep, flagellation.
tim pool
I was talking to a friend like three years ago.
Three years ago.
This was before, if you're not familiar, Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose.
They're the Sokol Squared individuals.
This is a big hoax that they did on this feminist publication.
But they had been talking about intersectionality is a religion.
It's a non-theistic religion.
And so you can check out their work.
But I had been talking about this to a friend of mine, and I mentioned that I thought it was a cult.
And this is three years ago, mind you, so it wasn't as nearly as prominent as it's become today.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they asked me, like, no, it's not.
Are there, like, someone, you know, like, is there a leader?
And I'm like, there are leaders of, like, different groups.
And yeah, I would say there are leaders.
You don't necessarily need to have a, like, specific leader.
Although, you know, we had a big argument about what a cult is and, you know, some people argue you do.
But I'm like, the point is, it's a fanatic ideology that follows very similarly to how cults work.
Love bombing, shame, exile, preachers who can, you know, it's almost religious.
There's that joke, what's the difference between a cult and a religion?
And it's, you know, the size.
How many people adhere to it?
adam crigler
It's a cult until you hit a certain amount of people.
Then you get the tax exempts and you become a religion.
tim pool
Technically it's not true though.
I know.
There's actually very specific things that religions don't do that cults do.
I ended up actually reading about this.
And so it's a religion.
It's a straight up religion.
adam crigler
Yeah, like this Marxism thing, like a lot of the Black Lives Matter leaders are coming out as Marxists and it's like, you know Karl Marx was an incredible racist.
And I tweeted that earlier today and someone actually said to me, You know, that's, that's how it was back then.
You can't, you can't shame someone for the way, you know, things that were normal in the past.
And it's, that's exactly what they're doing for the entire history of what we've got going on right now.
It's like, where is your mind?
lydia smith
Yeah.
How do you, how do you reconcile?
adam crigler
They don't, they don't want to hear these kinds of things.
They just want to screech and be in the cult.
They're accepted in their cult.
tim pool
They found a community that takes little effort.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
Little effort.
tim pool
And you show up and they have a little potluck.
adam crigler
And we're living in a world that requires little effort.
Comparatively, you know, to the past.
If you really want to survive, you can't do it by having little effort.
You've got to be really lucky.
You've got to be really lucky to have a life that requires little effort.
But if you want to do something, you've got to get out and work for it.
Everything's right not not if you're in that cult because that's easy. Everything's relative man. You're right.
tim pool
Absolutely. So, you know, I have a friend who Long time ago was talking to me about
There's like the way he described it was there's two classes of people
Okay, they tell you that there's like there's a lower class the middle class upper class. Whatever. He's like no, there's
two there's people who have broken the barrier to where they will never
want for anything and And they go through an existential crisis.
And these are the ultra-wealthy.
And then there's everyone else who lives in a relative state of comfort and is constantly striving to survive.
The analogy is that if you stand still, you're on a treadmill.
And if you stand still, you're moving backwards.
If you walk, you're staying where you are.
You have to run to try and move forward.
So you basically have two classes of people.
Most people, the 99.99%, are all on the treadmill and they're all running.
And this includes people who have hundreds of thousands of dollars and make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year because they don't have independent wealth.
And then you go down and even the poorest people, everybody's on the treadmill running to try and get forward.
Some people are just laying down and they roll backwards.
And then they get mad they're far behind and they're like, but I should be allowed to sit.
That's a different argument.
But there are people who've finally made it to the end of the treadmill and then they go through an existential crisis.
This is what my buddy told me because he ended up making, you know, millions of dollars off some product he invented when he was real young.
And then all of a sudden it's like, nothing matters.
What do you do?
adam crigler
Yeah, he has everything he wants.
tim pool
And he accomplished his goal.
And so I think what these people today don't realize, there will always be poverty.
It's quite literally impossible to get rid of poverty.
It's just the definition of what poverty is.
Could you imagine, you know, somebody who makes $10,000 a year today in America is considered poor.
Could you imagine that living standard 100, 200 years ago?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
It's like the ultra wealthy.
Could you imagine, like, go back 200 years and people are walking around like they're riding horses and the horses are like pooping everywhere and there's poop everywhere and you have a car with air conditioning.
adam crigler
I know.
Yeah.
tim pool
And you're and they're like, what is this magical vehicle of you?
You must be a king where you come from with this.
You know, it's like, oh, actually, no, I'm really poor.
I'm like, it's a bad.
It's really bad.
lydia smith
It's a bad car, yeah.
tim pool
And all their teeth have fallen out.
They're all dead by 30.
Their babies are dying.
Gangrene.
And you're like, yeah, gangrene.
lydia smith
There's no anesthetic.
tim pool
You go back in time and you're poor and you hang out with a dude and he stubs his toe and goes, whoop, stubbed my toe.
Is it bleeding?
lydia smith
Whoop, guess I'll die.
adam crigler
That's it.
Or I guess I should cut this toe off.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
The baseline's different.
Our base level of the standard of living that we are used to is privileged.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Everyone is.
I don't care who you are.
I mean, in America is really what I'm talking about, because this is obviously the subject at hand.
You know, it's like we have air conditioning.
We have sewers.
lydia smith
Indoor plumbing.
adam crigler
Yeah, sewers are huge.
tim pool
The greatest force in ending poverty has been capitalism.
Capitalism, that's it.
Communism has only ever made more poverty.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Fewer people, though, because they all die.
adam crigler
I was just going to say, it kills a lot of people.
lydia smith
It does kill a lot of people.
adam crigler
Like, Marx is responsible for over 200 million people dying from his ideologies.
tim pool
We can't even keep track.
adam crigler
Arguably higher.
At least 200 million people have died because of his ideologies.
unidentified
It's weird that- It's crazy.
tim pool
We mentioned Jordan Peterson in the past, how he says, we know when the right goes too far.
It is weird that we live in a country that can't tell when the left has gone too far, and it clearly has.
lydia smith
It seems like it might have, yeah.
tim pool
Might have.
lydia smith
Maybe, perhaps.
adam crigler
But on a lighter note, Jordan Peterson has resurfaced.
He has, yay!
He's back.
I'm glad you're back, Jordan, if you watch our show.
lydia smith
Of course he does.
tim pool
Of course he does?
adam crigler
Yeah, of course he does.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
adam crigler
Sure, why not?
Someone was like, you should get Jordan on the show!
And I'm like, yes!
Oh gosh, yeah, but... Dr. Peterson, we would lovingly accept you on our show to enlighten us and our viewers.
tim pool
Well, you know what I found is interesting?
When I first, when I hit you up to do the show, before you were immersed in all this political stuff, you had been, I guess you were reading and listening to Dr. Peterson.
adam crigler
Yeah, I was introduced to him last year through one of Nisha's friends.
The Maps of Meaning, basically.
If you don't know it, it's very enlightening.
Check it out.
It's the Maps of Meaning on YouTube.
It's basically one of his theories or one of his classes.
You can just go watch it.
It's quite long, actually, but absolutely worth it.
It talks about what it means to be human, what we need, our purpose, and what we're lacking nowadays.
he breaks it all down and gives examples and it's it's really an incredible watch so
tim pool
we i'm gonna throw suggest that we got a super chat real quick i'm gonna throw it to you oh
just real quick go ahead they said uh trump watched tim's rant trump started crackdown
after last monday i'm a conservative and i'm excited to bring home our troops i told you he
unidentified
watched it he told you i said it Really?
adam crigler
I don't care.
That's proof.
tim pool
It happened.
adam crigler
He watched it.
lydia smith
That's all the proof we need.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
The reason this is funny is because Trump is now trying to bring our soldiers back from Afghanistan.
adam crigler
And who's blocking it?
The Democrats.
tim pool
Well, it's not even about that.
The media.
adam crigler
Right.
They all are.
They're trying to stop it.
Why?
tim pool
I'm talking to a friend of mine, lefty, and I said, what do you think about Donald Trump trying to bring our troops back from Afghanistan?
You know what the response was?
adam crigler
Trump's doing that?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Is that what their response was?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
What do you think their response was?
adam crigler
That's what I think their response was.
Trump's doing that?
tim pool
Well, I mean, I have to look at the situation.
I mean, there's probably a good reason why our troops are there.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh!
unidentified
What?!
I'm not kidding.
Of course!
adam crigler
Okay, yeah, no.
lydia smith
I think it should have been the scandal of the freaking whatever 50 years is called,
the fact that we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We knew that we didn't need to be there and we stayed.
tim pool
So all of a sudden...
You've got, I think Rand Paul proposed it.
I think, I'm not entirely sure how it pulled up, but I think, have you seen this?
lydia smith
Let me see.
adam crigler
I think it is, I think you're right.
I think it is Rand Paul.
He's talking about people, we've got people serving there that were born after the war started.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
That are there now.
lydia smith
Yes, that sounds like Rand Paul.
adam crigler
They weren't even alive.
tim pool
Apparently, both parties shot him down.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
They were like, nah, we're not, we're not, we're not gonna, we're not gonna bring our troops out against any nuts.
adam crigler
We make way too much money on this war machine.
tim pool
So here's what happens.
Trump wants to bring our troops back.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like... Yeah, me too.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
tim pool
Yes, please.
adam crigler
Awesome.
tim pool
And what happens?
A story drops in the New York Times.
Vladimir Putin is paying a bounty to the Taliban, to Afghan militants, to kill American soldiers.
adam crigler
There's another one of my friends, I say friends loosely because I don't really know them that well, but they were shoving this down my throat.
How could you vote for Trump?
unidentified
Look at this information that I have about him knowing about them.
adam crigler
And I'm like, okay, show me your information.
I'll read it, sure.
Because I'm downed to be proven wrong.
You hear that?
Everybody.
I don't care.
I am okay with being proven wrong.
In fact, I welcome it.
And everybody should be welcome to be proven wrong.
That's why, you know, and I read it.
Hold on.
I just want to say I read it.
No proof.
None of it was proven.
It was all like, well, now this is what we're talking about.
So that could mean that this happened.
tim pool
And it's like, what?
adam crigler
What is this?
An anonymous source.
Experts say it's like, OK, well, actually give me the experts because I'd like their I want to read what they're saying.
Don't just tell me an expert told you.
And that's that's the way it is now.
tim pool
No, no.
You know what?
You know what?
It's true.
adam crigler
Oh, it is.
tim pool
It absolutely is true.
adam crigler
All right, well, since Tim told me... I said it's true.
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen.
lydia smith
I do believe him, yeah.
tim pool
The New York Times, the paper of record, the gray lady has told us this is happening.
lydia smith
Therefore?
tim pool
Now, I don't need evidence if they said it.
Therefore, If it is true that Trump knew our soldiers are in danger, we must immediately bring back every single soldier from that country because their lives are in danger.
adam crigler
And what does Trump do?
He says, we should bring these people home.
Well, he's been fighting.
No, no, no.
I know.
Well, first off, he said, I was never briefed on this.
So him bringing the troops, trying to bring the troops home had nothing to do with that.
He was just trying to end the war.
I get what you're saying.
I just wanted to say that.
tim pool
If the argument is, that Putin is offering money and our troops are in harm's way, guess we gotta bring them all back!
lydia smith
Yeah, man, that's a good point.
tim pool
You don't want your troops to be in danger, do you?
And you know Trump's not there for them.
We better bring our soldiers home from Afghanistan.
adam crigler
Newsflash, they were in danger before Putin presumably did anything.
They're in a war zone because we put them there, so let's get them out of there.
lydia smith
Yeah, good call.
adam crigler
I'm okay with that.
tim pool
Afghanistan was so dumb.
You know why?
Iraq and Afghanistan surround Iran.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
John Bolton, that guy.
I love, man, The Onion wrote this article.
adam crigler
Oh, goodness.
tim pool
It's a picture of John Bolton like this.
He's gasping and he's holding a gunshot wound.
And it says, John Bolton breaks into Oval Office screaming that he'd been shot by Iran.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Yep.
That dude, and now it's no surprise, he is ragging on Trump.
He's trying to sell a book.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
These people love war, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
He's a warmonger.
tim pool
It's war is money.
It makes money.
It keeps things a-churning, baby.
lydia smith
Dude, it keeps the people united in some extent.
tim pool
I mean, well, you know who... I think Trump has really activated a lot of people in such a tremendous way.
lydia smith
Tremendous.
tim pool
I never... Tremendous.
The best.
I cannot believe that I have people, friends of mine, actually going, Well, maybe we do need soldiers in Afghanistan.
Dude, yeah.
unidentified
I'm like, what?
What?
Dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's insane.
tim pool
Oh, man, the left is meaningless.
It just doesn't even make sense anymore.
How is it we got this guy here, Super Chet, he's a conservative, and he's excited to bring our troops home, and I'm like, here, here.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
What?
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
I know, yeah.
I don't get it at all.
tim pool
The neocons were all about war.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like everyone, you know, this is what I, the more I'm looking into the political realm, the issue's never really with the presidency.
It's the House and the Senate.
lydia smith
It's the system.
unidentified
It's the deep state.
adam crigler
They're pushing their propaganda machines.
They're the ones who are really pulling the strings of what is going on in this planet.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Or, I'm sorry, this country.
It's insane.
tim pool
It's a crony establishment.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
And Trump went in and flipped the table over and he said, ha ha!
I'm gonna go bring our troops home.
tim pool
You know what they said about Trump in these leaked emails from the Democrats?
They wanted to prop Trump up as a Pied Piper candidate because they thought if they made Trump the frontrunner, Hillary was guaranteed to win.
Little did they know!
adam crigler
Little did they know he actually had plans for this country.
lydia smith
He actually cares about it.
tim pool
He'd been talking about it for a long time.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's it.
He loves America, and it's like, you know what?
I see a lot of anti-America going on right now, and it pisses me off.
I see friends of mine on Facebook.
I'm calling them out.
I don't care anymore.
I'm losing friends left and right.
You know what?
You're not even my friend.
tim pool
You've lost no friends.
Thank you, Tim.
You're right.
adam crigler
Thank you, Tim.
You're absolutely right.
It's like there is nothing wrong with being proud of this country.
Nothing at all.
And I am proud of this country.
tim pool
You know what you need to do?
adam crigler
It's this country that made me who I am.
And I love who I am.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
And there's nothing wrong with that either.
tim pool
Here's what I'm gonna do.
lydia smith
Hear, hear.
tim pool
Timcast IRL is announcing a special all expenses paid vacation to a select list of countries for any person who prescribes to leftist ideology.
lydia smith
Yes.
Possibly a second world country.
adam crigler
One-way ticket, though.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I offered this to people before.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I got into an argument with a dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, go see what it's like outside of this amazing country.
tim pool
I was like, where would you like to go?
adam crigler
Yeah, where?
Anywhere?
tim pool
And then we had a conversation, and I said, I will get you a round-trip ticket.
I'll pay for your hotel, but you must sign a waiver that I am not responsible if you die.
lydia smith
Anything that happens to you.
tim pool
Yeah, nothing.
I can't be held responsible for this.
You're going of your own volition, and It all falls apart, huh?
Do I need security?
I'm like, I don't know, do you?
adam crigler
Do you know what it's like to think I think I might need security in this place because you're fearful of your life every single day?
tim pool
Maybe that's what I should do.
I should start a non-profit that just buys plane tickets for the far left to go to like Morocco and Egypt.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
And Iran, Afghanistan.
What did you say?
lydia smith
I said helicopter rides?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I'm talking economy plus, baby.
lydia smith
Brutal, Lydia.
unidentified
Brutal.
tim pool
Economy plus?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Extra bag of pretzels.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
Nice.
lydia smith
Tim is a generous guy.
adam crigler
They don't give peanuts anymore.
tim pool
No, they don't.
They have allergies.
But you will, I will, I will guarantee, you know what I will do?
I will pay for your hotel, get you a nice one.
You pick the country.
lydia smith
Will it be nice though?
tim pool
Well, I mean, nice is relative.
lydia smith
That's true.
tim pool
So, so look, you know, I'll put it this way.
I went to Sweden and you've been to Sweden and I went to the bad areas of Sweden.
It was beautiful.
adam crigler
Yeah, even the bad areas.
tim pool
There's problems.
There's a viral video recently of a grenade attack.
Some locals went to the cops and so the gang, they pull up and they throw a grenade onto their patio and it blows up.
There's problems, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, there's problems everywhere.
There's problems in America.
I'll admit that.
I'm not saying that the police don't need reform.
One of my friends is one of my friends.
He's a good buddy of mine.
We kind of had a slight argument and he was just saying about how can you be proud of a country that all this stuff needs to happen.
I was like, well, I never said that all those things shouldn't happen.
Sure, we do need some reforms.
Certain things need to happen.
We can get better.
But we also went from a slavery-based economy to now abolishing it because of the constitution that we made.
You know, and now we've come a long way, and it's like, let's not destroy it all.
Let's keep moving and progressing forward.
That's, you know, it's like, we can still be happy and proud of the progress that we've made.
It's like, I'm not gonna forget that progress.
No way!
I'm not gonna start treating people differently because of the color of their skin.
No!
Definitely, I will never do that.
Ever.
That is one thing I won't do.
I cannot do it.
And you know what?
I've seen racism in my life, and every single time that it's ever shown its ugly face in front of me, I've said something.
I've quit my job, I've lost friends, I've kicked people out of my parents' house because they were just talking racist stuff, and I kicked them out of the house.
It's like, I will always speak up for it.
tim pool
And you know what's funny?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
That almost sounds woke.
Except for the fact that when you understand what you're really saying, they've changed the definition of the word racism.
So they're talking about, you know, my dad was waving an American flag, so I said, get out of my house!
You're not welcome at my birthday party!
Which is like, not racism.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
But I'm exaggerating, mind you.
But it's like, it's things like this, they're like, America itself is white supremacy.
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
It's like, no.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
No, actually, that's not true.
It's so, it's so, it's so insane.
It's, it's, it's, you know what's the funniest thing about this is?
Is that the fact that white people and, you know, are on both sides, Either not woke or woke or red-pilled.
Asian people, some are woke, some are red-pilled.
Black people, some are woke, some are red-pilled.
That proves it's not a race thing.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
It disproves their racial... That's why they really, really don't like black conservatives.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Or Asian conservatives or Latino conservatives.
They really don't because it really starts to hurt their ideas.
adam crigler
Well, why do you think when the Hodge twins posted my video of me... It got deleted.
Boom, deleted.
Terrence Williams, boom, deleted.
They don't want that being shown around.
lydia smith
Mass flag it.
adam crigler
It's like, well, no wonder.
tim pool
Yeah, for those that are listening, there's a video of Adam talking about voting for Trump and Facebook nuked it after 2.4 million views.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
It's gone.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's gone, man.
It's really, really creepy.
adam crigler
It's still going around on Twitter, but it's like...
All I'm saying is I'm thinking logically.
I'm doing the research myself, which I suggest to everybody, do your own research and thoroughly do your research.
Don't just read the title of the article.
That's what, that's what all these people do.
They're like, Oh, this article proves it.
I'm going to just pass it along.
And I'm like, okay, I'll read this article that you sent me and I'm like reading it.
I'm like, Oh, okay.
So this it's, it's an opinion piece.
Why are you giving me an opinion?
tim pool
One of the, one of the best opinion pieces I've read lately was that All news has become opinion.
There's no line separating the editorial page and the news page anymore.
So I was working for Fusion.
There was this big story that happened for internet-based individuals.
Ellen Pau, the CEO of Reddit, had resigned.
And a story came out from the New York Times that said, interim CEO Ellen Pau resigns from Reddit.
And it was like a hundred words.
The board announced that she would be stepping down, they would find a replacement in the coming weeks.
Ellen Pau was serving as blah, blah, blah.
And that was it.
adam crigler
Simple, straightforward.
tim pool
The next day.
adam crigler
News.
tim pool
That URL, that same link, had been rewritten to an opinion piece about sexism in Silicon Valley.
The title became something like Silicon Valley Bros 2, you know, Women in the Workplace 0, or Feminist 0, or something like that.
And then it was giving this opinion and analysis about the problems of women in tech and everything like that.
The reason why this was such a big story for me at the time is that they changed the link.
So, let's say you post a link to a story.
adam crigler
Yeah, say I shared the original post let's say let's say you share us the original story
tim pool
Yeah, and you're like wow look at this breaking news Yeah, and the next day they change it to say a bunch of
things like they love Nazis right and then people are gonna be
Like whoa Adam. What are you sharing you right? So it's ridiculous when they switched it to a feminist article
Mm-hmm all of a sudden you had people who probably shared the breaking news now inadvertently having shared a
feminist article Right.
Without realizing it.
adam crigler
That is sneaky as heck.
tim pool
Very sneaky.
And they didn't put a correction on it.
They didn't put an update.
adam crigler
Of course not.
tim pool
And so at Fusion, I said, I'm like in the Slack chat, and I'm like, whoa, dude, this is huge.
It's huge because this story was the number three and number five most upvoted post of all time for Reddit and Reddit history.
lydia smith
Holy cow.
tim pool
And they changed the story, disqualifying it, and the moderators deleted it.
So record-breaking posts got deleted from Reddit because of the unethical activities of the New York Times.
And so when I started working on putting something together, do you know what the people at Fusion told me?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Are you serious?
That you do this?
Wait, we do this?
then we'll get called out for it too.
And I said, wow, are you implying that you do this?
Are you telling me right now that our company will, will change articles
without putting corrections or notes?
Well, everybody does this.
adam crigler
Oh, you're like, not me.
tim pool
The guy who said it now works for the New York times.
lydia smith
Are you serious?
unidentified
100%.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Welcome to, uh, modern journalism.
lydia smith
Journalism.
tim pool
There's another story going around and I'm, I'm mostly going to stay out of it because there, there are some woke journalists that I think are cordial enough and I'm, they're nice to me, so I give them respect 100%.
So I'm not going to get involved in dragging them if I think they're saying if they're saying something very very
dumb or lying.
I'll definitely call them out.
But there's a few people who typically just report nonpolitical news but are super woke and others this big thing happening
and I'm watching I'm watching the drama develop and these news outlets are all writing about each other again because
like some journalist you know did a story and then someone got mad and now they're writing that now there's a drama
and different journalist organizations and I'm sitting here just like are you writing about each other again.
lydia smith
What a circle of jerks.
tim pool
Did you see the story from the Washington Post where they wrote about a Halloween party two years ago where a random woman no one ever heard of, who's not a public figure, was wearing blackface?
No.
That's that story.
That's it.
And everyone's like, who's this woman?
lydia smith
They ruined her life.
tim pool
Who is she and why is she newsworthy?
adam crigler
Why is this news?
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
Because it's click worthy.
adam crigler
Because people get emotionally compromised and they trigger those emotions.
tim pool
So what do you think happens when someone who is part of this uber woke culture gets cancelled themselves?
What do you think their immediate reaction would be?
adam crigler
I think I might know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Do you think they would cry?
adam crigler
Yeah.
How dare you?
I'm fighting for you!
lydia smith
I really wanted this job.
adam crigler
Oh, I wasn't even thinking about this.
I was thinking about Alyssa Milano.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's true.
What happened with Alyssa Milano?
adam crigler
Oh, you don't even know?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
Oh, snap.
tim pool
Oh, because of the blackface thing.
adam crigler
She did Snooki from Jersey Shore.
Yeah.
It was like a really, really dark tan.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
It wasn't necessarily blackface.
lydia smith
It was like a Trump tan.
adam crigler
Yeah, really.
unidentified
Darker.
adam crigler
Yeah, and they were like, wow, how dare you?
Like, look, let's cancel her.
And she's just like, she went off on him.
Like, look, a-holes.
Like, it was Snooki.
Ha ha.
It was supposed to be funny.
It's like, oh, it's, you're going for comedy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Now she's getting canceled.
lydia smith
Snooki's a minority.
adam crigler
That's what you're doing, huh?
tim pool
When did she do that?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
It's been an old video.
adam crigler
It's been going around.
tim pool
Is she crying?
lydia smith
No, she's just mad.
adam crigler
No, she was snapping at him.
tim pool
She was all mad.
adam crigler
I mean, I don't know.
There's funny stuff.
tim pool
I was referencing something specific.
adam crigler
I know.
This one you're talking about here?
Yeah, let's talk about this.
lydia smith
Oh, this lady.
tim pool
Yeah, she's crying.
lydia smith
Oh, my Lanta.
tim pool
I don't even know if she's really crying.
I think she's a sociopath.
adam crigler
I don't believe it's real either.
Yeah?
Yeah, because if you watch her crying video, she goes from crying into, she goes, but I won't stop fighting for justice.
And I was like, whoa, what?
You're a joke.
tim pool
So this is a story about... Let's break it down.
Maybe you've heard about this.
lydia smith
Yeah, let's do it.
tim pool
Harvard grad said she lost her Deloitte job after a TikTok joke threatening to stab anyone who says all lives matter.
It was a dumb joke.
I saw the original video.
It was a dumb joke.
adam crigler
It was a dumb joke.
tim pool
She was trying to make a point that if she stabbed you and then you complained about it,
she would say her paper cut was just as important.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But all that mattered is the clip was going viral of her saying,
I'mma stab you and then she's like headbutting the camera or whatever,
which is like some kind of meme or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then she got fired.
adam crigler
And then all the comments were, all lives matter, all lives matter, all lives matter.
And then she was like, for legal reasons, I have to say, this was a joke.
I was like, oh, it's too late.
lydia smith
It's too late.
adam crigler
Sorry, girl.
tim pool
So here's, I guess, the son likes posting photos of her crying.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I don't believe she's actually crying, though.
Because she's milking it for all it's worth.
adam crigler
I lost my job.
They're supposed to be on my side.
But I won't stop fighting for justice.
That's right.
I'm brave. Oh, you turned that around real quick. Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah. I called. She's just making more videos.
And the more, you know, now she's going to make another video about this, about everybody else.
So, so there's kind of a controversy going around because at the same time, I say kind of a
controversy, but I'm seeing some people talk about this.
Stephen Molyneux got banned from YouTube.
Right. Yeah. And I don't know the exact reason because I don't follow him.
I don't really know what his whole thing is, but he's accused of being far-right and holding like supremacist views or something.
Apparently, he says it's not true, and the left always... You know, here's the problem.
I'll tell you this right now.
First and foremost, I'm not super familiar with Stephen Molyneux's work.
adam crigler
Neither am I, I don't know.
tim pool
I briefly met him in passing one time while I was in L.A.
and it was like a ten second thing.
I was like, oh yes, you're Stephen Molyneux, nice to meet you.
That was it.
Not seen any of his videos.
The left accuses him of a whole bunch of the worst of the worst.
The only problem is they accuse everybody of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
So the only assumption I can make is he probably wasn't what they were accusing him of.
lydia smith
They've been crying wolf, man.
tim pool
But it's also that there's other people on Twitter who are saying the accusations against him are completely false.
But it got his channel terminated.
Someone else who defended him got their channel terminated, too.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, so they're like, you better be careful about what you say about this guy.
Don't say anything positive, I guess.
But the issue right now is there's a lot of people actually defending this woman who's crying because cancel culture is stupid.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
Because it's very, very stupid.
lydia smith
It is, yeah.
tim pool
She should not have lost her job because she said a stupid joke that was obviously her trying to be edgy.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
But she also, look man, If you if you walk into your field and you throw about apple seeds, you can't complain when apple trees grow.
adam crigler
So nice.
lydia smith
I have a point because I mildly disagree with him here.
I think that she has shown herself to be impulsive, wildly emotionally manipulative, extremely cunning and dishonest.
And I think that any company would be well within their rights to say you are a risk that we are not ready to take.
And I don't think that's fair because I think it was just a joke.
But I think they had every right.
Oh, you know who else got fired?
I just found out.
The husband of that lady who pulled a gun on that couple.
tim pool
He got fired?
lydia smith
He got fired from his job at Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
Good.
lydia smith
They tweeted it.
Why is this good?
tim pool
Because, look man, if people can't stand up for themselves, if you're not going to...
You need to defend yourself.
You need to do the right thing.
adam crigler
Yeah, you know, I saw someone just super chatted there, like, you know, good on Adam.
He's actually giving me more of a, like, I'm inspired to speak my mind.
Yeah.
I am calling my friends out.
I'm calling people.
I mean, I don't care.
I'm calling anyone out.
If you see, if I see it, I am calling you out on it.
It doesn't matter.
And I'm going to have a conversation.
You probably won't like it.
And I don't care if you don't like it or not, but I'm going to have that conversation with you.
People need to start standing up because we keep talking about it.
The people on the left, they're super loud.
They don't have jobs to go through.
They're just screeching the loudest right now.
We have to screech as loud as they are.
It's like, you know what?
I will.
I will be a loud buzz in your ear.
I'm gonna talk.
I'm gonna announce the things that I believe in and back myself up.
tim pool
There's a couple things here with this weird, you know, with this woman and stuff like this.
It's that because regular people aren't speaking up, The perception among many people is that the hip, cool culture, the acceptable culture, is this.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
Because all the big brands are doing it, all the celebrities are doing it.
And so, there's actually, I actually have a funny story, because I was arguing with someone who I would say is, you know, a long-time friend of mine.
And they're saying a bunch of things about me being biased and, you know, how their memes are better than me and stuff like that.
And how, like, they think how it's so sad Because their perspective is they're on the side of the mainstream, right?
And so they're like, you've become this like weirdo fringe conspiracy guy, dude.
And I was like, what happened to you?
And I was like, do you read the news?
Do you actually know what's going on?
adam crigler
Nope, they don't.
tim pool
What makes you think that I'm on the outside and you're on the inside?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so then I explained to him, I was like, you realize I've been on one of the biggest podcasts in the world multiple times now, three times in the past year.
That I've been hanging out with famous pro skateboarders, musicians.
And then guess what his attitude became?
Oh, really?
unidentified
Oh, I mean, whoa, that's really cool, man.
tim pool
All of a sudden.
Who has really moved?
A lot of people believe that the mainstream is this weird brand.
Brand is very concerned about social issue.
And we know that group of people need to be protected.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what they think is real life.
adam crigler
For all the pride they had the flags.
The next day, boop!
tim pool
Gone.
adam crigler
All gone.
tim pool
You've got some of the most famous pro skateboarders in the world.
Rock stars.
And these are people who hit me up.
And they're like, yo, dude, I love the show.
And I'm like, I really do appreciate it, man.
I wish these people would speak up more.
And you don't got to be mean.
You just got to be calm and rational.
Say, look, man, I'm not down with this weird stuff.
I think it's racist.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
That's how I've been doing it.
It's like, look, I'm not trying to rag on you.
I'm not trying to berate you for your beliefs.
I'm giving you my opinion and backing it up with actual things that are happening because you're giving me your opinion backed up by other opinions.
tim pool
Well, for me, it's more of an issue of who they perceive to be cool and socially acceptable.
adam crigler
It's a good point.
tim pool
And so when they think, like, you know, when they live off of memes, And they think what we do, for instance, must not be popular.
And then I say things to them about metrics versus guests and prominence, and all of a sudden their tune changes, realizing, wait a minute, am I on the wrong side?
Uh oh.
adam crigler
Are we the baddies?
tim pool
Are we the baddies?
And I'll say to them, look bro, there are people I grew up skateboarding with who had aspirations of being the biggest pro skateboarders in the world.
And then they're posting this ridiculous, zealous fanaticism.
They're mean, nasty people.
They're shrieking.
They're engaging in cancel culture.
And then I say, do you think pro skateboarder X and Y would wanna hang out with you when you do this stuff?
Because I'll tell you something, I know for a fact they wouldn't.
You know why?
Because I talked to them.
And they're like, you do?
Yeah, I do.
And I'm hanging out at a party with some high-profile musicians and rock stars.
And I'm not saying that to brag, man.
I'm letting you know that there are regular people in this country who are scared of the weird, shocking nonsense that's going on.
And there's a reason why people want to listen to a show like mine, want to listen to YouTube videos like mine, or would want to listen to, say, Joe Rogan, for instance.
Now, you know he's famous, right?
And all of a sudden, their tune starts changing.
And they start to think to themselves, oh, maybe I'm the weirdo.
Maybe this stuff is weird and unfun, and nobody wants to be involved in it.
Now, of course, there are some, you see these celebrities.
But take a look at what happens with these celebrities, like, what was the, I take responsibility?
adam crigler
That's embarrassing, that video.
tim pool
Everyone made fun of them, even the left.
adam crigler
Well, first it was the Imagine Song video that went around.
lydia smith
Oh man, it hurt so much.
adam crigler
And then the I Take Responsibility was kind of like that, 2.0, and it was equally cringey and bad.
tim pool
And so you have all these celebrities constantly trying to inject themselves in this way.
adam crigler
Or the prince.
tim pool
And it's not fun.
It's not funny.
adam crigler
Or is he even a prince anymore?
lydia smith
Oh, Prince Harry!
adam crigler
Someone said something that I cracked up laughing.
Someone said it looked like a hostage video.
unidentified
It did!
adam crigler
Like he was speaking.
lydia smith
Everyone was saying that.
adam crigler
Like someone said, had a gun behind the camera.
Like, read this.
tim pool
So cancel the queen.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
It's like, if you really believe this, so you're like the epitome of this.
tim pool
So this video is basically Prince Harry talking about how institutional racism is bad.
There is nothing more institutionally racist than hereditary monarchy.
So how about we have the Queen step down and you can appoint a black Asian or minority ethnic or what was it in Middle East?
Is it Middle Eastern or minority ethnic?
lydia smith
Minority ethnic.
tim pool
You can appoint that as your Queen.
I would nominate Beyonce.
She's already the Queen, right?
Everybody loves her.
How about we ask the good people of the United Kingdom if they would like to see the Queen step down because Prince Harry certainly thinks that institutional racism is a problem.
I know what the answer is going to be.
F you.
We're not going to save the Queen.
But I was talking to some British friends of mine and I made that point and it's like They love the Queen.
adam crigler
Yeah, they do.
tim pool
Could you imagine them being like, well, the Queen is white, and the monarchy is literally institutional.
It's beyond institutional racism.
We're talking about like a single bloodline.
lydia smith
Colonies, are you kidding?
tim pool
A single bloodline.
So like, you don't even, there's just, you know, never gonna happen.
Well, I guess technically Harry married Meghan Markle, I guess, and she's mixed race.
adam crigler
But didn't they renounce their royalty or something and move to California to be celebrities?
tim pool
Can you appoint a queen?
adam crigler
And when wanted the US government to give them security?
tim pool
Let's have affirmative action in the royal family.
Why not?
I mean, does she really do anything at this point?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
She is the head of state.
adam crigler
You know Sweden has a king?
tim pool
Yeah, what do they do?
lydia smith
They're figureheads, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's not like the government.
It's kind of like...
I think they are royalty.
tim pool
They just get to be rich forever.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess.
lydia smith
I like the faces.
They're diplomatic, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
They get to be rich forever.
Yeah.
That's basically like... I know that they have royal duties and apparently... What is that?
adam crigler
You got the spritz?
tim pool
Why?
They're starting to fight and I just want to... You got to give the cats... You got to spritz the cats when they're causing trouble.
lydia smith
We got cat spritz.
Keep the peace.
tim pool
So there are two cats and Adam is spritzing them because that's what you do.
lydia smith
I can't get them.
adam crigler
Well, Betsy was biting him and it's like... Were they playing and did you just break up their play fight?
lydia smith
Their little play fight.
tim pool
They weren't making noise.
adam crigler
I don't know.
They were... Well, I saw it.
You didn't see it, right?
I saw it.
I have the proof here.
tim pool
Are you oppressing the cats?
lydia smith
Yes, absolutely.
All pets are slaves, alright?
adam crigler
Absolutely. What you just did. All pets are slaves.
tim pool
All right. I want you to imagine everyone listening, Adam with a large fire hose, just
adam crigler
spraying these poor cats. I asked what kind of gun I should use. A lot of people did a
squirt gun. A squirt gun? Yeah. For what? And I chose it.
unidentified
Did you just muzzle me?
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. You can't just spritz water. We're spritzing the cameras. I know, I have no
unidentified
trigger discipline. It's true. You gotta keep- We're learning. You gotta keep- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. When you
tim pool
have a spritz bottle- Did you just muzzle me? Whoa. Did you just muzzle me with that? You gotta keep it pointed down.
What's happening over there? And you gotta keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to spritz. To spritz the
cat. It's true. And so, the first rule of the spritz bottle is always treat a spritz bottle as if it has water.
The second rule is always keep it pointed down, keep your finger off the trigger, and don't point it at anything you don't want to spritz.
lydia smith
Like a camera.
unidentified
What were we just talking about?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
I thought we were talking about something important.
lydia smith
Totally lost it.
tim pool
Now we're talking about the Queen.
lydia smith
The Queen.
Canceling the Queen.
adam crigler
Celebrities.
lydia smith
Sweden's Queen.
adam crigler
Speaking up for stuff that they... Why are we putting them on a pedestal?
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Basically... I don't know.
unidentified
Is that good?
tim pool
I've lived a wild and crazy life.
unidentified
I'll tell you.
tim pool
I'll tell you.
adam crigler
Hey, you know what?
Me too.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
We've had some interesting stuff.
tim pool
We went to Denmark more than once, didn't we?
Yeah, twice.
adam crigler
Christiania.
tim pool
I know I went to Copenhagen too many times.
adam crigler
We could release that video now.
I'm not in contract.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I don't know where that footage is.
tim pool
I'm buried in the basement.
adam crigler
I don't even want to talk about it.
tim pool
Christiania is the autonomous zone of Denmark.
lydia smith
Oh, they actually have a real autonomous zone.
tim pool
And that's what they were basically trying to emulate.
adam crigler
Yeah, but it's been around since the 70s.
They actually figured it out.
They actually legitly do it.
Yeah, but it's more of a fun... Well, really what happened was these buildings were crumbling.
It was an old military installation, a barracks.
And, uh, the city didn't want to do anything, so a bunch of hippies moved in and started fixing everything.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
adam crigler
And fixed it up and turned the whole complex, essentially, into their new spot.
And they're like, this is our zone.
And they've, like, they've made it their own.
And, yeah.
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Gardens.
tim pool
And we went.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
An awesome skate park.
Here's why I was bringing this up.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Not to, like, start talking about Christiane or anything, but... I'm totally down, though.
You know, when I mention, like, I've done a bunch of crazy things in my life... Mm-hmm.
I know all of these people I grew up with, and they really do think, I know how they think, I grew up with them, they think that they're part of the cool kids club when they embrace this new religion.
So they start saying a bunch of dumb things on Facebook, I always approach them politely, and I'll say something like, oh actually, here's the data on this.
And they start guffawing and like, but I'm part of the cool kids club, what are you even doing, what happened to you man?
adam crigler
Are you even an influencer?
How many followers do you have?
tim pool
It's not it's not even like that.
It's that they're convinced that.
So so this is really important, too, for people who consider themselves to be
like moderate in the intellectual dark web type space or conservative or whatever.
Regular people have been trained to view you as a fringe outlier,
not a part of regular America.
And that works.
So in their mind, if they want to be cool, Trump is bad.
Well, if you were a free-thinking individual, you could come to your own opinion, like, Yeah, but not that bad, right?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Like, here's some things I like about him, here's some things I don't like about him.
Come on, let's be real.
You know, even when I talk to the average Trump supporter, they have complaints, they have criticisms, and they have a lot of support for him.
adam crigler
Yeah, and you know what?
Whoever you vote for, I don't care.
I'm not gonna, like, put you in a bracket in my brain that's gonna be like, well, this person's just an idiot that will vote for whoever, and it's like, I don't care who you vote for.
I mean, I have my opinions on what's going on.
I have my own political views myself.
But don't put me in a bracket of I'm an evil person because of it.
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
But would you vote for Stalin?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Would you be friends with someone who voted for Stalin?
adam crigler
Probably not.
tim pool
Yeah, probably not.
adam crigler
I probably wouldn't be friends with those people.
tim pool
Exactly.
So, from the perspective of You know, if you wanted to vote for Biden, you want to vote for Trump.
That's fine because they're actually similar.
They're within the Overton window.
So the issue is actually that if Stalin was on the ticket, I would not want to be friends with anybody who would vote for him, right?
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
I'd be like, you're insane.
This guy literally kills people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's how the far left thinks right now.
They think Trump is Hitler.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
Because they've gone insane.
And so now I'm like, I don't care if you vote for Bernie or Biden or Trump.
I'm not a crazy person.
And I recognize, you know, while Bernie's got a bunch of far left ideas, he's like the furthest left of what's acceptable in this country.
And it's barely acceptable in a lot of ways, but still acceptable to a lot of people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like if someone said, I want universal health care, you'd be like, I don't think that would work, but you're not going to screech.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If someone came out like, you know, like Stalin came out, he's like, I want to take all the land from the farmers.
We'd be like, whoa, whoa.
You're going to kill everybody.
That's nuts.
So the problem right now is the fanatic far left lives in a paranoid, delusional state where they literally think they're fighting in law resistance against the Nazi regime or whatever, and it's psychotic.
adam crigler
It is.
tim pool
Regular people, however, are just convinced because the celebrities are cool and Trump is dumb.
That's what you've got to say to be cool.
So then when I come back with a counter-narrative like, I'm successful, I got my own skate park dude, we're recording music, where have you been?
Where have you been?
You're the one who missed the train.
Make them realize that the reality is, there's an illusion.
It's like a curtain over everything in my opinion.
When I get hit up, and I mean this, and I'm not trying to say this just to brag, like when I literally get hit up by like a rock star, very, very famous celebrity musician being like, I'm so glad you're saying what you're saying.
And then I get angry and I'm like, why won't you say something?
I'll lose everything.
I'll lose my career.
I'm like, whatever, man.
When I hear that, I'm like, I know what real life is.
I know what regular people are interested in.
And it's not this weird fanaticism.
It's just that as long as no one is speaking their mind and saying calmly and politely, I'm actually not okay with that.
We don't do that here, right?
As long as no one's doing that, then the wokeness is perceivably the mainstream.
And that's what they're counting on.
And that's why they threaten you with violence.
That's what cancel culture is for.
To make you scared you'll lose your job.
adam crigler
Yep, I got people hitting me up non-stop, people that I've known for a while.
They're like, it's emotions.
They're emotionally triggered and screeching at me and I'm just like, do you even hear yourself what you're saying to me?
lydia smith
I don't.
adam crigler
You don't, you know, and I'll try to calmly talk to them.
Like, okay, this is what led me to think these things and the reason I think this and, you know, can we chat?
Boom.
No longer friends.
Can't even contact them anymore.
It's like, alright.
I guess that's the way it is.
They don't want to hear it.
lydia smith
So I think it really gives you a leg up to have thought through everything that you think.
I think it's a huge advantage because they don't.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
lydia smith
When you ask them, why do you think this?
They're like, well, I saw a headline once somewhere.
And you're like, well, I actually read the article and it says the opposite of what you're arguing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
So maybe it's worse than that.
They go, here's the article that proves you wrong.
And I go, OK, let me let me dive into that.
Sure.
I want to be proven wrong.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
You know, I love it.
I want the other side of things.
Read it.
It doesn't show me anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
But your opinion.
OK, so and I show that to them and then they they don't like that.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Somebody just said in the chat, in all caps, Tim talks to the fat guy from Smash Mouth.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
I just thought that was funny.
unidentified
Is this true?
adam crigler
It's not true.
lydia smith
I need to know.
unidentified
What the heck?
tim pool
I'm not talking to the guy from Smash Mouth.
adam crigler
Random.
tim pool
Hey man, Walking on the Sun, that's a good song.
lydia smith
That is, yeah, that Shrek song.
tim pool
No, that's not Walking on the Sun.
lydia smith
No, I know, but the Shrek song is Smash Mouth.
adam crigler
I was kind of doing a bad impression of Walking on the Sun.
tim pool
What's wrong with Smash Mouth?
adam crigler
The only thing you should be smashing is the like button.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, that's true.
adam crigler
Remember, 30,000 likes and I'll play a song at the end of the show.
tim pool
Nah, it's not gonna happen.
adam crigler
Well, Waita, just shut me down.
tim pool
I'm shutting you down.
adam crigler
My boss is the worst.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
See, these people watching don't have the strength to smash that like button.
lydia smith
They lack the strength?
unidentified
I'm disappointed.
I'm just kidding.
lydia smith
I'm so disappointed.
tim pool
We just don't have 30,000 people watching.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
So, we already got 9,000 likes.
We get 20,000 more.
You guys want to hear me play a song?
I will play a song at the end of the show for 30,000 likes.
tim pool
They're like, Tim's reading the chat now.
It's like, I often do read the chat.
lydia smith
Yeah, he kinda, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you just can't see it because when the camera's on me, I'm not reading.
When the camera's off, I'll be looking at the chat.
Yeah, that's true.
See what people got going on?
People are saying Tim Pool loves Smash Mouth.
I think I know two Smash Mouth songs.
lydia smith
I know two.
tim pool
Do they have more?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Like popular ones?
adam crigler
Probably?
tim pool
No, I mean like hits.
adam crigler
I have no idea.
unidentified
I'm gonna ask you guys in the chat.
adam crigler
What are we doing right now?
tim pool
Smash the like button.
We gotta do a soundboard.
adam crigler
Dude, we need a soundboard.
tim pool
We need Greta Thunberg's How Dare You.
And we need Eric Swalwell's Cheat and Election.
adam crigler
And someone's actually building me a physical like button to smash.
unidentified
Oh cool.
adam crigler
Yep, they hit me up on Twitter.
They were like, hey, I can actually build you a physical like button that you can smash.
And I was like, yes, of course.
What do you mean?
I'm going to smash it.
tim pool
No, I know, but will it light up?
adam crigler
Regardless or irregardless.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Did you hear?
It's now a word.
lydia smith
How dare you, Adam.
adam crigler
How dare you say irregardless.
It's officially a word.
No.
No, regardless is a word.
Irregardless is not a word because it makes no sense, but they finally added it.
tim pool
It is not a word.
adam crigler
They just keep adding things.
lydia smith
They change the definition of racism.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
lydia smith
Screw them.
adam crigler
But anyway, regardless, I'm going to smash that like button.
unidentified
Thank you.
adam crigler
It's going to be fun.
I'm very excited about it.
tim pool
How about we jump over to Super Chats?
lydia smith
Yeah, let's do that since we're going this way anyway.
adam crigler
Yeah, why not?
tim pool
Alex, okay, so if you haven't already, you can jump over to Super Chats, but we can't really reach everybody.
adam crigler
If you haven't already, you can smash the like button.
Oh, I thought that was the subscribe button.
tim pool
Smash the subscribe button and the notification bell.
And we do the show every Monday through Friday at 8pm.
adam crigler
And you can follow me.
There's my tag.
tim pool
You can follow Adam.
adam crigler
At Adam Krigler.
Yep.
Everywhere.
tim pool
Instagram.
adam crigler
All over the place.
tim pool
Twitter.
You can follow at Timcast.
unidentified
YouTube.
tim pool
Instagram, Twitter, and Parler.
That's right.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
Parler.
And you can of course follow at Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Sour Patch Lids.
L Y D S. At all those places as well.
adam crigler
Excellent.
tim pool
Now let's read what some of y'all have to say in the Super Chats.
Alex says, Help!
I've been trapped in a desktop UFO for weeks!
Please stop the spinning!
adam crigler
I'm spinning it for ya!
Spin it more!
lydia smith
He loves it!
adam crigler
You're gonna get dizzy!
tim pool
Benjamin Stephen says, PewDiePie did a video on cancel culture today.
It was pretty good.
This is why I love that he's on top of YouTube.
Check it out.
Love you guys.
Cool, appreciate it.
Cole says, if I had a nickel for every corrupt person in our government, I'd have enough money to pay off all 21 trillion dollars of our debt.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
How many politicians do we have in the US?
adam crigler
I was just thinking, I don't think that math checks out.
lydia smith
It's like 40,000.
Yeah, we have a lot.
tim pool
It's like 40,000 actually.
adam crigler
That's not 21 trillion.
tim pool
No, of course not.
It's actually very little money.
lydia smith
It's a slight exaggeration.
adam crigler
That's like that math that they were like, they can give $1 million to every citizen instead of it was like $1.
Would it be $2,000?
tim pool
Am I doing my math wrong?
Math.
unidentified
Oh, math.
tim pool
Daniel says July 4th 2020 will go down in history as the day of the first purge.
unidentified
LOL.
tim pool
Love the channel.
Appreciate it.
We'll see what happens.
It's gonna be only a partial lunar eclipse.
adam crigler
We should do a special July 4th episode.
tim pool
It's Saturday though.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
We're gonna be going out for the 4th of July.
adam crigler
That's a special episode.
lydia smith
We're doing stuff.
tim pool
I'm gonna be, you know, turning my flashlight on and off.
adam crigler
Yeah, people are trying to turn it into like all countries day.
All countries matter.
lydia smith
It's gotta be.
adam crigler
It's meant to be a troll.
Well, see, that's the problem with trolls sometimes.
Because, like, the Karens see it, and they're like, oh, yeah, see?
lydia smith
That's such a great idea.
adam crigler
This is what they're talking about.
Pass it along.
And it goes from troll to reality.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
And then those, the Karens, I mean, I use Karen, whatever, it could be anyone that falls for the troll, passes it on as reality, and then that becomes the new reality.
And that's more of the issue of why it's gotten it's gotten as bad as it is now.
tim pool
You know, there was a people have been joking about this that maybe what's really happening is that the woke left was actually just a troll from 4chan as a joke.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And people thought it was real and rolled with it.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
adam crigler
Exactly what I was just saying.
tim pool
I see it.
adam crigler
I see it.
I see that being the true case.
Like I was saying about the movies, you know, like the movies just got, you had to, they were looking at it as reality and then like they made it the reality and then got worse and worse and worse.
Then we got the trolls.
tim pool
There was a big thing where 4chan was saying, so they use the Pepe meme.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then they want it because celebrities started using it.
Normies were using it.
They said, let's make Pepe racist.
So that way the normies stopped using it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They did it.
lydia smith
They did it.
Like the mad lads.
tim pool
Yeah, they made it work and the media ate it all up.
They started making a bunch of racist memes and then they did it.
And the celebrities got all embarrassed, I guess.
Cause like Katy Perry was using a Pepe meme or whatever.
Let's read some more of these super chats.
Let's see here.
Josh Ryman says, I'm a conservative and so is my wife.
We both appreciate what all of you have done trying to bring the two parties of this nation together.
Hope common sense will regrain a footing in this zombified nation.
unidentified
Me too.
tim pool
I agree.
adam crigler
Me too.
tim pool
Johan Oldman says, what are your thoughts on Brett Weinstein's Unity 2020 plan for a centrist presidential campaign?
I have not done an in-depth deep dive or whatever, but my understanding is that it sounds like Brett is calling for a third-party candidacy.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
That's it.
adam crigler
Right.
lydia smith
That's all we know so far.
adam crigler
Well, it's like two presidents though.
It's not just one.
tim pool
It's like... A president and a vice president.
adam crigler
Working together.
Right.
I know, it's funny.
tim pool
Isn't that what it is?
adam crigler
Kinda, yeah.
tim pool
It's a ticket with two people and they flip a coin to see who becomes the president.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they work together.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And it's supposed to be someone center left and center right.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan.
Although I think Brett is an absolutely intelligent man.
Very, very smart.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
My issues with it are it sounds like For someone as well-versed on wokeness, what center-left candidate could you get that would appeal to any of those people?
adam crigler
I think David Yang was one of the choices.
lydia smith
Andrew Yang?
adam crigler
I'm sorry, Andrew Yang.
And then Tulsi Gabbard was another suggestion.
tim pool
Well, Tulsi Gabbard wouldn't work for the left.
adam crigler
No?
tim pool
She would work for the right only in the capacity of anti-war, but not for any of her policies.
So she's fairly progressive on a lot of issues, but then fairly moderate.
So who is a center-right candidate the left would vote for?
I just don't, what it really sounds like is the left and the right have become so far
removed from each other, mostly because the left has just skyrocketed off in a random direction,
that a middle ground candidate would still be relatively far left if they're trying to
adam crigler
appease the far left. Well and it's like Unity 2020, it's like you gotta introduce these kind
of ideas long beforehand. It's like trying to change the voting, the way we vote. It's like
now. Oh, they're trying to do it right now?
No, I mean, that's what he's unity 2020.
So it's obviously for the 2020 election It's like no, you can't do that.
You can't just like let's just slam it in there and make make this change It's like that's not gonna work.
You got it.
tim pool
Ultimately.
adam crigler
I think long term and just plan ahead a little longer It's a third party candidacy Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
Most people who vote walk in the room and go, R. Walk in the room and go, D. And that's it.
They don't think twice.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
So sure, you could probably muster up a couple million votes for a third party candidate, especially if you've got a big IDW push from it.
adam crigler
Well, there's these charts that I looked into it a little bit on their website.
You know, they voted, like, who would you vote for?
Are you independent?
Are you this, that, and the other thing?
And they showed, like, a graph, and they only did, like, under 1,000 people.
It was, like, 900 votes.
So it wasn't really very broad.
It was catering to the people that followed them already.
So, you know, it's really hard to actually tell if it would work, how they're saying it.
It wouldn't work.
tim pool
No.
It would not work, especially when you consider that the establishment still has wealth and still has players involved.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're not going to let that happen.
A populist unity uprising?
They're not going to let Trump win.
lydia smith
They'd fight tooth and nail against it.
tim pool
So it's just, it sounds like, from what I've read so far, it sounds like an interesting idea, but it just sounds like a third party.
It's like, it's like a centrist populist run.
adam crigler
Yep.
You're right.
tim pool
I'm down because we have far left populism and right wing populism.
Where's left wing populism?
The only version of left wing populism we have is socialists.
unidentified
What about just like general, regular, liberal?
tim pool
We don't have it.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
So the only option for the politically homeless individuals, people like me,
is the closest party to me is Trump and Republicans.
adam crigler
That's the closest I've heard you saying it.
That sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
But it's true, it's like... You're right, no, you're right.
tim pool
You've got the two parties, the left goes like this, and the right goes like this, and I'm right here, like, well, I can look to my right, I can see Republicans, I look to my left, I see nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I gotta actually walk for miles before I can actually see somebody who's on the left, because they've all gone so far.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
They're on a train, they're just leaving, and they're like, they're yelling at us to get off their train, and we're like, we got off a long time ago, buddy.
lydia smith
Alright, bye!
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
Some more Super Chats.
Justin4 says, Breaking!
Manitoba man armed with a rifle shotgun attempted to storm Redou Hall, the residence of the Prime Minister and Governor General, by ramming the front gates.
The man is a current member of the Canadian Armed Forces.
adam crigler
Whoa!
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Did this just happen?
adam crigler
Dude, Canadians are upset with the Canadian government, that's for sure.
lydia smith
Their last mass shooting was a little sketchy.
tim pool
Oh yeah, did you hear about this?
There's a story coming out now where apparently this guy may have been an agent of special forces who committed a mass shooting and they used that shooting as the pretext for a massive gun ban.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's crazy.
lydia smith
Convenient.
tim pool
It's all coming apart.
Maybe the swamp is being drained.
Conspiracy.
Caleb McDaniel says, when it comes to Biden, what are your thoughts on Ukraine and Hunter Biden?
Hunter has disappeared, and I can almost guarantee you that Trump will bring this up during debates.
If they happen, of course.
They probably won't.
Joe Biden is saying he's not going to have rallies because of COVID, so he certainly can debate because of COVID.
They'll use a CGI Joe Biden.
adam crigler
I thought they agreed to three debates.
Did they?
I think they did.
I'm not sure.
tim pool
We'll see what happens.
adam crigler
Trump team wanted four debates.
Biden's was like, no, three.
tim pool
Hunter Biden's corrupt.
Joe Biden is corrupt.
Everybody's talked about it for years.
And it was only when Joe Biden was running, the media stopped calling him corrupt.
adam crigler
And Biden's super racist, too.
Like, the more I look into it, the more I'm just seeing these racist comments from him.
It's just like, wow, how is no one talking about that in this temperature of America right now?
Like, everything's about race.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's like, how are they not seeing that?
I don't get it.
tim pool
Alright, let's see what we got.
Sipa Bam Bam says, in the ER right now, still want to watch your show.
Hey, appreciate it, man.
I hope you're okay.
adam crigler
Yeah, I hope so.
tim pool
Blue Sabre says, honestly, I would be okay with making everyone wear a mask if they would just open the effing country.
But we all know why they would never do that.
Now spin that UFO!
I will do it!
adam crigler
Spinning for you!
lydia smith
Wish is our command.
tim pool
Depot says, imagine being so scared of being called a racist that you'll respond by either drawing a gun, supporting a Marxist insurrection, or avoiding spinning a nearby UFO.
Ooh, he got you!
lydia smith
Ooh, zing!
tim pool
Cody Evans says, y'all going to Gettysburg on the 4th?
Also, gently make love to that like button and rock that little alien's world.
No, we are not going to Gettysburg on July 4th.
Or should I just say we are?
We will secret- No, we're not gonna do that.
adam crigler
Dude, there's no way you should go there.
You are, I'm sure, on their top hit list for, like, the Antifa people trying to take out their opposition.
tim pool
Not the top, but I'm sure you're on the list.
Definitely on the list.
adam crigler
You've had threats already.
tim pool
So yeah, it's it's I'm definitely not near the top though.
That's for sure.
Okay, but they really don't like me.
The most they do is they shell F Tim pool.
Okay, they've actually physically attacked like jack was up.
It just got physically attacked in DC.
So Andy, and Andy, no, they really want they spray paint thing like threats to him for sure.
Chris Kabler says, want to know more about the deranged Harvard chick?
We did talk about it.
We did talk about it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Let's just, uh, let's see what we got here.
We will jump down and grab a big ol' super chat.
Tanner says, I got my security plus in Happier News.
Trump is pushing guidelines to deprioritize having a degree in federal hiring.
They're moving to skill-based hiring.
Maybe this can be a step toward getting rid of college necessity.
lydia smith
That's so great.
adam crigler
I love this.
You got to have the skills.
Prove you got the skills.
That's what we want.
tim pool
Yes, he certainly did.
It's true.
Some good news, Jordan Peterson seems to be recovering nicely.
He had a podcast with his daughter.
He called this atmosphere years ago.
Yes, he certainly did.
adam crigler
It's true.
I haven't watched that podcast, but it's on my docket.
tim pool
Dark Gift Comics presents...
presents. Big fan. Lifelong Dem here in Jersey and I've been fighting this for six years
now in the comic book community, but I, but have been scared of the overall effect on
the world. Will most likely vote Republican this November for the first time ever.
adam crigler
Oh wow. I'm hearing that a lot. Dude, I'm just, I don't, I don't understand.
tim pool
You know, I, okay, so I guess there's an argument about people who have families.
They don't want to speak up because they got to feed their kids.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now I kind of feel like if you don't speak up and you have kids, you're guaranteed, you're, you're, I'm sorry man, you're leaving your kids a battered hellscape for a future.
And to me, I'm like, you gotta speak up.
Otherwise, you're putting your kids at risk by refusing to stand up for them.
What kind of world will you leave them?
But I can understand why in the immediate, it is easier if you don't have kids to make these kinds of calls.
But for me, I'm kind of like, dude, I'm the kind of person to where if I went outside and someone started screaming at the top of their lungs and throwing things at me because they said, you know, F Trump or whatever, I would go buy 50 Trump flags and plant them all over my house.
lydia smith
He is, yes.
tim pool
I'm the kind of person where if you come up to me and start screaming, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna do the opposite, because F you!
I do what I want.
You hear the story about that guy, his friend put a Trump flag in his yard as a joke, and then the neighbors complained, and the city told him to take it down, and he was like, oh, my friend put it there as a joke, and like, well, you gotta remove it, and he goes, why?
So then he bought a bigger sign.
adam crigler
Yeah, I love that.
tim pool
He's like, I'll make a bigger one!
lydia smith
He decked out his yard.
tim pool
Yeah, it's great.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, this one's for you, Adam.
Okay.
This is from Adam Hestis.
What is your favorite longboard?
adam crigler
Sadly, you can't get this one anymore, but I designed it myself with the Arbor team back when I was riding for Arbor Skateboards.
It was called the Catalyst.
You can probably find it somewhere, but it's really good.
It was a symmetrical, drop-down, twin-tail, great pushboard for pushing around New York, but you can also trick it.
I could kickflip it.
It was a really fun board.
It's definitely my favorite.
tim pool
Someone in the regular chat says, okay Tim, then name the Antifa leaders.
First of all, and I will address this, you know their names already.
If you follow Andy, know he posts all about them.
And I'll say one obvious leader is Yvette Falarca, who I've covered over and over again on this channel.
The reason I don't say their name is because I don't want to give them attention so they can gain following and have people flock to them.
That's why I don't say their names.
Not because I'm avoiding calling them out.
That's why I'll just say, follow Andy.
Andy No.
Andy N-G-O.
That's his name.
lydia smith
Mr. Andy No.
tim pool
And he posts the photos and the names and all of the information about them.
So if you want to know who their leaders are, what the organizations are called, the individual cells, he'll post all of that stuff.
Personally, I avoid saying the names of organizations and people because I don't want to give them attention, and I don't want them to be able to recruit off of that, because there are people who hate Watch.
There are people who will take the clip and then share it around and say, aha, look, it's working, here's the person.
And then people will seek out these individuals, so yeah.
adam crigler
It's like Toilet Girl.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't remember her name.
tim pool
Toilet girl.
That's right.
lydia smith
Don't intend to.
adam crigler
But she licked the toilet.
tim pool
She did.
And it was gross.
So what I'm talking about is not standing up and screaming the names of Antifa individuals.
I'm talking about if you're at work, and they're like, hey, we're going to do a big diversity statement for the office to make people feel better.
You just simply say, I would be offended by that, and I think it's inappropriate.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
That's it.
And they might be like, too bad.
And they might do it anyway.
Another thing you can do is you can say, I would like to be involved.
And then just act really like you don't know what they're talking about and just challenge everything they say very politely.
If they say, all white people are racist, you can go, hey man, that's not okay.
You can't, that's offensive.
You can't say that.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
You could play like innocent and you can get- Well no, just actually try and communicate with them.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Lupus Albus says, there are two kinds of people.
Those who have been punched in the face and those who had sudden onset value arrangement.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Rearrangement?
Mr. Beard says, Trump watched Tim's rant.
I read that one earlier, yeah.
I'll go back to that though.
He said, Trump watched Tim's rant.
Trump started crackdown after last Monday.
I'm a conservative and excited to see, to bring home our troops.
What I didn't bring up last time is, I was saying like, Trump needs to do something.
Did you know Trump did something?
adam crigler
Yeah, I do.
tim pool
We've had a guy arrested now for the ringleader, they call him, the guy who was organizing the teardown of the Andrew Jackson statue.
He's deploying a special unit for protecting statues on federal monuments for the Fourth of July around the country.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's dope, I didn't hear that.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Perfect.
services are being deployed.
unidentified
BOSS.
adam crigler
That's dope, I didn't hear that.
tim pool
So he's literally not using Insurrection Act, not using the Army, he's sending regular DHS
personnel to protect statues and monuments.
lydia smith
Yes, perfect.
Bounce.
adam crigler
There you go.
unidentified
No overreach.
tim pool
Bounce.
Colmisto says, I am a former Revolutionary National Socialist.
Used to live in a dark place and ridiculed people and shows like this.
I have now turned to Jesus and recognize people and where they come from.
Great show, you guys.
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
That's awesome, dude.
tim pool
Welcome.
That's a big transformation.
lydia smith
We're happy to have you.
adam crigler
Indeed.
tim pool
To go from Revolutionary Socialist to a follower of Jesus.
And that was really interesting.
A lot of people really liked the segment where I mentioned that.
Where it's like, I'm not particularly religious.
I'm not one who cares for the Bible.
adam crigler
And neither was your friend, it seemed.
tim pool
Exactly.
So for those that are unaware, basically the gist was, someone I met Had a picture of Jesus, and me being an arrogant youth was like, trying to mock him for it, like, pfft, you know, what, Jesus?
And then he was just like, I don't know, it was a story about a guy who traveled around, you know, helping people, it's kind of cool.
And he was very calm about it, and very just like, whatever.
And so I had no real argument, because that's actually a cool thing.
How do you insult, how do you challenge that?
And so then I was like, oh, that actually is a cool story.
So if that's what you take from it, that's actually a really good thing.
Some people take it to a dark place.
Some people are very zealous and authoritarian and some people are very humble.
I hear Chris Pratt is like a true, you know, true to, you know, very good person, very nice, respectful, and he tries to live, you know.
adam crigler
He seems so nice.
lydia smith
He does.
adam crigler
He seems like so much fun.
I want to be his friend.
lydia smith
Right?
I'd drink a beer with that guy.
tim pool
Yeah.
Benjamin Stephen says, I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan combat deployment.
Thank you, Trump.
And yes, Tim, you're right.
We have no reason to still be there.
Here, here, man.
Glad to see that you're back.
Thank you for your service.
And yeah, man, the problem I have, look, I understand there's probably strategic international reasons for international conflict and all this stuff, and I totally get it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But I'm sitting here listening to the left say, we want these things.
We want healthcare, we want to fix the pipes in Flint, we want to do all these things.
And it's like, okay, we spend money on military infrastructure here to send there, and then we spend money on people there to build things there.
I understand a lot of the money that goes to the military budget is spent here and circulates in our own economy.
I get that.
But how much money could we redirect if we brought our troops back and focused on internal infrastructure plans, using our military to actually shore up our defenses and protect the American people in other ways?
So I'm not saying it's possible.
I'm not saying it's what we absolutely have to do.
I'm saying I'm tired of hearing all the left scream about, you know, we got to fix these things.
We need money for this.
And I'm just like, Reassess where we put our tax money.
Our troops should not be in danger for a foreign country.
The whole thing was predicated on 9-11, which made no sense.
Look, to me, it seems like we're just trying to surround Iran.
And then, you know, it's because John Bolton, the neocons, and the crony Democrats are like, we've positioned ourselves perfectly to go into Tehran.
That's what it really feels like.
I'm not saying I know for sure, but come on.
Look at the map of our military bases.
There's a meme that goes around among anti-war leftists, anti-war people in general, where it's like, this is why we must retaliate against Iran.
They've put their country so close to our military bases.
And you see all the US military bases.
Exactly.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So I don't like Iran.
I don't like their government.
I don't like the fundamentalism.
I don't like all the problems.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But I also don't know why it's our responsibility as we're not the world police.
I've never been a fan of that.
And I don't like the idea that people volunteer to defend this country are being deployed to a foreign country like Afghanistan for seemingly no reason for whatever it is they're doing.
I don't know, poppy fields?
I guess it's to be fair that when you become president or when you're in high-level intelligence, you get handed that big document and you're like, whoa, that's what's happening?
I understand there's probably a whole bunch of stuff we don't know about.
adam crigler
And everyone wants to be an expert too, and they think they are.
tim pool
There may be a good reason that we are in Afghanistan.
Maybe.
I don't know.
And as long as I don't know, I can only operate on what I do know.
And so I know there's things I don't know.
And I know that you have to justify to me why we're there and you haven't.
And therefore, I will absolutely be on the side of bring them all home.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Bring them all home.
adam crigler
Bring them home.
tim pool
Bring them home.
Also, I just don't like the idea that Americans are in harm's way for unknown reasons in general.
Like, you gotta really justify why you're risking people's lives, man.
It's not okay.
At least for me.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Tom A. says, Ever since September 2001, we as a country have made changes to our life in the name of safety.
It tore us apart.
I hope Trump can end the war and bring our troops back.
It would be a cathartic moment and symbolize hope and change.
I agree.
And what's shocking to me is, you know there's a period where we weren't in Afghanistan?
We need a reason.
It's been 20 years now, almost 20 years.
What about that little period where we weren't in the Middle East?
I know we had Desert Storm.
Why did we go back?
And why are we still there?
That stuff really makes me angry.
adam crigler
We needed a reason.
tim pool
No new wars under Trump?
Conspiracy.
That's like, oh man, for all of Trump's character issues, those are meaningless next to get
our troops home and no new wars.
unidentified
I'm going to go ahead and close this.
tim pool
Trump could literally cuss for 20 minutes straight and I'd be like, here, here, if you're bringing our troops home and you're not going to start any new wars, you can say every cuss in the book.
adam crigler
So he's trying to read through it.
It's funny, you say it too.
It's like, if we brought the troops home, we could start spending a lot of that money on the country.
That's what he he's trying to do.
He wants to bring up manufacturing back.
He wants to bring the troops back.
He wants to Make America great.
I mean he says again, and I kind of I have issues with the again part You know because I feel like we could just make it great and put a period there and then or greater mag You know that's that's what I'm about because I feel like we could just be better We can just get better and better and better and let's just keep getting better Trump is clever in a lot of the things he does with the press, but I feel like the press plays him too much.
tim pool
I can see that.
It's crazy to me how many people are so insanely blind to what's really going on.
adam crigler
It's insane how many people are exactly that blind.
I'm seeing it because I'm here on a stage voicing my opinions that a lot of people I know don't agree with.
I don't want to say attacking me for it, but I'm getting a lot of flack and people think they know everything and they want to scream at me about it.
And it's like, okay, I'll talk to you about it.
But then I find out that it's just them being manipulated by the people that don't like Trump, that are losing all their capital, that have all these foreign interests and all this stuff.
tim pool
We're making bets based on the TPP.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
We're going to have the Trans-Pacific Partnership, they thought, under Hillary.
So let's make a bunch of financial bets.
And then Trump won, and they went, oh no!
adam crigler
I just lost all that money.
Well, boo-hoo for you.
Sorry.
tim pool
Crony elite, rich, uber-rich, with their horses, their equestrianism.
Yeah, what's up with that?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Dookie says been following you since 2016.
I'm center slash conservative who loved watching you grow since Milwaukee Thanks for Tim cast Adam flex while spinning the UFO.
adam crigler
Oh I'm not showing off my muscles though.
tim pool
I don't have the right shirt, but I will flex that spin So Milwaukee was crazy, man.
Milwaukee was really funny.
Not what happened in Milwaukee, that was freaky, but afterwards.
So there was a guy got shot in Milwaukee and killed, I guess, and there was a Black Lives Matter protest.
This was like, I think, 2016.
adam crigler
Yeah, oh, the last time there was an election.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know.
adam crigler
So last time it trended?
tim pool
I was streaming there and then there was an 18 year old kid who got shot in the neck.
He wasn't part of the protests.
He was, you know, down the street in a different direction.
He got shot in the neck and I watched a guy carry him into a house.
And I'm like, we heard the gunshots, and we were like, whoa.
Then I go to the, you know, I run to the front of the house, and they bring him outside, and they put him down on the stairs, and he's sitting there with his hand, like a paper towel on his neck.
An APC rolls up, and a bunch of cops come out with their guns, and they're forming a circle, like all their backs to each other.
adam crigler
Yeah, like a shield.
tim pool
Yeah, and then they walk up, they grab the kid, bring him in the middle of the circle, and they bring him to the APC and take him out.
That night, people were yelling, get the white people, shoot the white people, F the white people.
And so afterwards, I was talking to my friends and I said, I'm leaving.
Because, look man, if someone just believes you to be white, that's specifically in my instance, because sometimes people don't.
White people typically don't necessarily just think I'm white, it just varies.
But black people typically just call me white.
And so I was like, for someone who's going to be here, when they're pointing at you saying, get them, get them, and then you're hoping and just keeping your mouth shut and hoping they don't, I'm like, I'm not going to stick around for this.
It's getting too dangerous.
So I made a video about it.
And then a bunch of conservatives shared it like crazy.
And then I started getting hit up by everybody, do you want to come and talk about it?
And I got hit up by some crazy people who said some really crazy things.
And I was like, okay, I don't, I don't understand what's happening.
The conversations were a little, little wild.
I'm not going to get into the specifics, but I was like, okay, okay.
You know, calm down.
But yeah, so that, that ended up getting me, you know, a bunch of
people trusted me after that.
It's interesting because I was just honest about what happened.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I was like people, some people, I got accused by the left of baiting
conservatives by making the video.
adam crigler
My goodness.
tim pool
Saying it's dangerous for white people.
And I was like, what should I have done?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
No, no, for real.
Like, give me some advice.
Like, what do you think I should do in that situation?
And they're like, just say nothing.
Do nothing.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
I'm like, oh, okay.
So all of my subscribers and followers who are like, Tim, please stream this.
Where'd you go?
Why aren't you streaming?
I just say nothing.
I just say nothing.
Nope.
Not gonna work.
It's, story's over.
No news.
No, I told them what happened.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I filmed it.
You guys watched the kid get shot in the neck.
And then they were screaming, get the white people, and then a white kid gets shot in the neck.
I'm not gonna stick around for this.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so I'm just letting you guys know, I'm not gonna be covering this anymore.
It's too dangerous.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And of course, people on the right were like, ooh, and they wanted to jump on the story.
What am I supposed to do about that?
That was, for me, especially, too, like a wake-up, like an eye-opening moment.
Things like that.
When I announced I was going to Sweden, because Trump said, you know, you see what happened last night in Sweden?
It became a huge news story.
And so then this big thing happened where Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars was like, I challenge anybody to spend the weekend in Malmo.
And I laughed because I had just been there with you, actually.
And we walked around and got ice cream.
adam crigler
Malmo's nice.
It's a nice town.
tim pool
So when he said that, I was like, what?
I was like, I'll do it.
So then I DM'd him, and I was like, I'll do it, because I already had a GoFundMe set up.
And I was like, look, I set up a GoFundMe, and he was like, he was like, I was joking around, but for sure, you know?
And then I ended up getting the donation.
I immediately got hit up by a bunch of people I know from Vice, saying, don't do it.
Don't go to Sweden.
adam crigler
Don't do it, don't do it.
tim pool
And my response was like, I'm just going to go and do like a verite in Sweden, like we normally do for Vice.
And they're like, no, don't.
I'm like, what do you mean, no, don't?
Like, we do, this is what we do.
Like, I worked for Vice.
adam crigler
You might disprove the narrative, Tim.
lydia smith
You can't have that.
tim pool
So what they told me was, just donate the money to a non-profit that helps refugees.
And I'm like, that's illegal!
lydia smith
For what?
No.
tim pool
That's a, that's a, it's a felony.
I raised the money to do a trip for journalism, the same as I've always done.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Like I used to at Vice.
Why are you telling me not to do journalism?
And they just don't respond.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And now they just smack talk on Twitter because they all joined a cult.
They all joined the cult and that's where we're at.
adam crigler
I like the super chat that just came in from the the lucky josh says get him their job back talk is cheap email is almost as cheap and he lists the the oakland edu that they got uh fired from yeah very cool and it's uts at oakland.edu and it's like Hit em up!
We talked about this yesterday, or was it two days ago?
I don't remember.
Earlier in the week we were talking about how the left part of their thing that they do is they have these email groups that they'll just send out an email.
Alright, we're gonna basically attack this one company for doing this one thing and if they get enough people hitting them up, they change their tune.
So, and we were saying, it's like, you know what?
We need the people on the other side to hit them up and be like, no, we think you're wrong for doing that.
Please listen to them.
Please stop saying, give them their job back.
They didn't do anything wrong.
lydia smith
I'm really curious.
adam crigler
He didn't do anything wrong.
tim pool
Well, in the video, you, I mean, we'll see, we'll see.
They both pulled guns.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
That's what they said in the video.
They say it twice.
Yeah.
They both pulled guns.
adam crigler
I didn't see him pull a gun.
tim pool
I didn't.
He was in the driver's seat.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Maybe he did.
You know, but I don't know for sure.
adam crigler
Proof is in the pudding.
tim pool
But either way, that has been a big issue.
But I'm seeing more conservatives talk about it.
adam crigler
I still think it's a good idea.
Gotta start doing that.
tim pool
One of the problems right now, too, is exactly how I just framed it.
Conservatives are doing it.
The reality is the middle's gone.
If you were a moderate, man, if you were a regular American, you're all conservative now.
Every single person.
adam crigler
I guess I am.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
So I never realized that I would be considered a conservative.
But you're not.
Well, that's what they say, though.
When you're younger, you know, it's like, sure, you have that phase.
But then as you get older, if you're by the time you're 40, if you're not a conservative, you're not living.
tim pool
Do you think rich people should pay a progressive tax?
Like the more money you make, the more higher percentage of taxes you pay in taxes.
So, like, someone who makes $2 million pays 40%?
adam crigler
I'm not going to say, because I don't know the tax system as much as I should.
tim pool
Pro-life or pro-choice?
adam crigler
You know, it's like, we've had this conversation.
It's like, sure, you can hit up these questions that are serious, but it's like, I'm not a politician.
I'm not running for an office.
I'm trying to use this platform to help people, you know, to use our opinions and discuss different things.
tim pool
The point I'm making is, when it comes to actual policy positions on cultural issues, I absolutely am a liberal.
I would say like 80%.
I did a video where I talked about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's positions when she first ran, and I was in favor of 60% of her platform.
60%.
Because of things like prison reform, ending private prisons, things like this.
adam crigler
See, I guess I'm down for that.
I'm down for that.
tim pool
Right.
And so I'm like, pro-choice, pro-progressive tax.
These are what used to define what liberal meant.
Now we've not talked about it.
When was the last time any of us ever brought this up?
lydia smith
I want to talk about policy.
Well, we do.
tim pool
What policy?
lydia smith
We were just talking about pro-life versus pro-choice the other night.
tim pool
Yeah.
In what capacity?
adam crigler
Yeah.
A little bit.
lydia smith
We were arguing about it.
I was like, I'm pro-life and here's why.
And Adam gave me a little bit of pushback about Planned Parenthood.
tim pool
I'm talking about in the culture war.
adam crigler
No, I didn't.
lydia smith
You're like, that's not the only thing they do.
adam crigler
It isn't the only thing they do.
You know, it's, it's, that's all I said.
tim pool
I'm talking, I'm talking about, I'm talking about Nancy Pelosi coming out and saying, you know, we need these core issues.
So right now we just had a Supreme Court ruling where Louisiana was going to have some more restrictions on abortion access.
The Supreme Court voted in favor.
Five to four, I guess, Roberts flipped.
There was some grumbling from conservatives.
And now we've moved on to Orange Man bad again.
There was issues in the Supreme Court about LGBT employment discrimination that we very briefly touched upon.
And of course, my position that I came out was like, I do not believe you should be able to discriminate based on these characteristics.
So my position typically lands somewhere on the left.
But 95 to 99% of everything that happens has literally nothing to do with cultural or policy issues outside of the left is banning free speech, they want hate speech legislation, And they want to abolish cops.
adam crigler
And they want mob justice.
Actually, the lucky Josh just hit us up again.
Read that last one that he just sent.
tim pool
Innocent until proven guilty.
No mob justice.
adam crigler
Exactly.
Like, how are they going to, like, just jump on, like you said it, like, well, we've got this viral video going on.
We've got to arrest them.
It's like, but they didn't have all the evidence.
Do we have to?
No.
That's exactly it.
No, we don't have to.
They're innocent until proven guilty.
That's the way this world works in America.
tim pool
So you can be arrested.
They'll be released on bail.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Then they'll go to their court.
The prosecutor, in my opinion, is going to drop it.
I think so too.
What jury is going to be like?
Lock them up and throw away the key.
They're going to be like, wow, you were surrounded and they were screaming they were going to attack you.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And they got behind your car and started hitting it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, I feel like bad hair day.
It's like people got into an argument.
Everybody go home and shut up.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Just like stop.
adam crigler
That's what I think is going to happen to you.
tim pool
Yeah.
But the point I'm trying to make is if we're talking about left and right wing policy from where we are today, then if you were a liberal three years ago, you're a hardcore conservative today.
Because I was talking to Crowder about this.
And I said, I'm pro-choice.
And he says, do you think there should be third trimester abortion?
And I said, in most circumstances, no.
In select circumstances, the health of the mother, inviolability, things like that.
And he goes, we agree!
And I'm like, right.
And he goes, so on the Republican side, they're actually making concessions on some, you know, allowing some women in certain circumstances, would you agree?
I'm like, sure.
And he goes, the left is talking about full-term abortion.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's crazy.
tim pool
And when you actually bring that up, they call you a liar.
adam crigler
That's craziness.
tim pool
I was talking, there's one person that I used to be friends with.
They're not friends anymore because she started going off about conversion therapy.
Like this is how insane they've gone.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But the first thing she said was no one on the left is for full-term or post-birth abortion.
I've seen it.
adam crigler
I've seen those videos about it.
tim pool
videos about the post the post-birth abortion thing was Northam saying
something stupid right so I'll walk that one back for sure I was like okay but
did you see the actual language of the bill it up until the point of birth you
could terminate the baby yep yeah and so when I showed it to her she freaked out
and she got mad but we were still able to stay friends then I'm like, look, this stuff is happening.
I'm not saying it's everywhere.
I'm not saying it's Supreme Court, but these people are advocating for it, and I'm freaked out by it.
Michelle Wolfe or whatever her name is on Netflix, yelling, you get an abortion, and you get an abortion, and everyone gets abortions.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's messed up.
Or how some of the abortion clinics are straight up selling infant organs.
It's messed up.
These people need to be arrested.
It's insane.
tim pool
I don't know enough about that.
adam crigler
I've read a little bit.
I've read up on it.
She posted some stuff I read.
tim pool
But it got really crazy when I was talking to a good friend of mine and she said that,
you know, we were talking, you know, trans issue politics stuff came up and then she called me
transphobic because it was around the time that lesbians were being called transphobic for not
wanting to sleep with males. And I brought that up and she said that's transphobic.
And I said, well, sure, but I'm not going to hold it against someone who has a preference.
Like if someone's, you know, gay and they don't want to be with a female then.
And she said, that's because they're transphobic and they haven't been taught.
You know?
And she said that she thought if given enough time and she could learn to be attracted to a female.
And I said, that's convergent therapy.
Yep, it is.
I said, no it isn't.
I said, no, it literally is convergent therapy.
adam crigler
That's exactly what it is.
tim pool
That's exactly what they do.
They try and put them in a situation where they teach them so they can learn to...
be attracted. And then she got really angry and cognitive dissonance set it set in because now
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
she was simultaneously in supportive and opposed to the same thing. And that was it. She deleted
her Facebook account. Oh wow. We deleted her account. Yeah.
Wow. I think I think it was because you know some people are weak-willed.
And I mean this without, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but they are.
So when they get inundated with woke insanity, they just say, okay, this is what I'm going to say from now on.
This is what's true.
Then when they get countered with a logical rebuttal, they can't figure out which one is correct.
So they just, they have a panic attack.
They have a mental breakdown and they just turn it off.
adam crigler
I can't do this anymore.
tim pool
So maybe that was the right thing to do.
Get rid of Facebook because it's certainly making people go insane.
I think Facebook is the worst of them.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
But you know... Have you seen Ready Player One?
Yeah.
So I love this movie.
It's a great movie, but there's one thing about it at the end of the movie when they finally get control, spoiler alert, of the, what is it?
I forget what the world is called.
Well, anyway, they gain control of it and they turn it off on Thursdays, Tuesdays and Thursdays or something like that.
Two days a week.
No one's allowed to play the game, to go into the world.
Yeah, and it's like we have to remind people that there's reality out there.
Life exists outside of this game where everyone was hooked on and that's social media.
It's like it feels like people think that that's reality and that's not reality.
tim pool
And they're arguing that it is reality now.
adam crigler
It's not, exactly.
tim pool
The journalists want it to be the real world.
adam crigler
Right, you know, it's like the trolls are becoming reality and it's like the The antagonist in their movies is now what reality is to them, and they're like, that is not the case.
Step back from and rediscover what reality is like outside of your internet bubble.
tim pool
Let me ask you something.
Do you think that most Americans have a positive view of the phrase Black Lives Matter?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Just if you had to guess.
adam crigler
I would guess no.
tim pool
You think no?
Even with all of the big brands and all the advertisements and McDonald's and everything, you think they don't?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Do you think most Americans have a positive view of the phrase, all lives matter?
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
And you're right on both counts.
Really?
Two polls came out.
It was Economist and YouGov that found that most people have a positive view of the slogan, all lives matter.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And the highest racial demographic with a positive racial demographic is black Americans.
adam crigler
That think all lives matter.
tim pool
Interesting.
So when you ask white people, black people, Latinos, or they put other, I guess it means Asian and mixed race.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Other was the lowest approval, but the most positive association was among black Americans at like, I think it was like 56 to 58%.
Wow.
I do believe that in one of the polls, most Americans favorably view black lives matter, 52%, and 56 are favorable of all lives matter.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But the other poll showed that there was actually a minority of Americans who favor Black Lives Matter and a majority who favor All Lives Matter.
adam crigler
That kind of makes sense.
That's kind of what I've been saying.
tim pool
But you know why?
I think it's because most Americans aren't active politically.
And so when they ask you, the average person says, oh, that one?
I don't know.
Oh, All Lives.
That makes sense.
adam crigler
Yeah.
They just like... Because they believe that.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
That's the truth.
Most people believe that All Lives Matter.
tim pool
It's a couple of polls.
Maybe the polls are wrong, but there's two of them.
That's interesting.
Do you know which demographics are more likely to hate All Lives Matter?
adam crigler
White people.
tim pool
No.
They're still favorable.
adam crigler
I'm thinking of the woke crowd.
tim pool
Yes, it is post-graduate degrees.
More than $100,000 a year.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And graduate degrees.
Because they've convinced themselves that the cool thing to do is to be woke.
It's their bubble.
adam crigler
or they because they've convinced themselves that it's the cool thing to do is to be.
tim pool
It's their bubble. It's Twitter. Yep. You go on Twitter and you'd think all lives
matter was like the worst possible thing anyone could say ever.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And most Americans are like, that's cool.
adam crigler
I know, right.
tim pool
That's cool.
adam crigler
Yeah, you really, it would think that.
tim pool
I bet if you walked up to a random person on the street and say, how do you feel about All Lives Matter?
They'd be like, they do.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
Thank you, bye.
Blue Lives Matter was actually very low.
Okay, I think it was 36% approval in one of the polls, and I think it's because no one knows what it means.
lydia smith
Yeah, right.
adam crigler
They're like, what's like aliens?
Did we discover some blue creature?
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So let's see.
Let's see if we got any more super chats, but I've got some some bad news.
It's 10.03!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, uh, let's see what we got here.
We got Frank.
Thanks for the super chat.
Jake Jones says, tear down plant parenthood and rebuild with a moral framework.
He who shall not be named says, Tim, teach us to blue screen the SJW cult flowers.
Tim talks.
Oh man.
I actually, you know, when I worked in these nonprofits, Why I did so well fundraising was because I grew up with a bunch of hacker friends, and I grew up with an understanding of social engineering, which is basically manipulating people.
So when you're working for a non-profit, you're trying to figure out how to convince someone to give money.
You know what?
Let me tell you something.
I worked for Greenpeace.
I worked for a company that was fundraising on behalf of the ACLU.
Gotta be very careful.
And I worked for a couple different fundraising outlets that worked for a bunch of different major international non-profits.
You know how easy it is to get someone to believe in something?
adam crigler
Seems pretty easy.
tim pool
You know what I had to do working for these companies?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
On the spot, in about a minute, convince them to give me their credit card.
Could you imagine how difficult it is?
You walk up to a random stranger on the street and within one minute you've handed your credit card to them.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
That's impressive.
tim pool
And these people do it every day, all the time.
So they know exactly what to say and how to say it.
And a lot of these people are zealous leftists and they probably take that with them and then use that for activist organizing.
That's part of why they do the job they do, to learn how to be persuasive.
Interesting.
It's so easy to convince someone to believe in something.
To inspire them.
To get them to even, like, feel passion on the spot.
adam crigler
To get them to smash the like button.
tim pool
And this is what I would tell people, I'd say... And give me money to spin the UFO.
It's one of the reasons I hated this job.
Was that it was just, the whole job was manipulative.
Yeah.
They weren't convincing you to actually fight for a cause.
They were convincing you that you were going to convince other people.
And eventually I realized these companies were lying.
And that was the final straw for me, when I thought they were doing the right thing, fighting for the environment, fighting for civil rights.
And then when I got a real taste of the hypocrisy, I just stopped.
I was like, I don't want to do this ever again.
I don't want to be involved.
But anyway, with that being said, make sure you smash the like button, smash the notification bell, smash the subscribe button.
You can follow me at Timcast on Instagram and Twitter.
You can follow at Adam Kregler on Twitter and Instagram as well.
And of course, you can follow at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S.
We do the show every Monday through Friday.
at 8 p.m.
and we'll be back tomorrow.
Fridays are usually the biggest shows.
adam crigler
Friday Night Jam.
lydia smith
We have so much fun.
adam crigler
We missed last week, so.
tim pool
Because I lost my voice, so I'll play tomorrow.
One song.
One song and I'm not going to scream at the top of my lungs like I normally do.
adam crigler
Good call.
I can cover two of your songs.
tim pool
There you go.
adam crigler
Cool.
lydia smith
Alright, let's do it.
tim pool
That'll be fun.
adam crigler
I'm excited about that.
tim pool
We laid down one of the tracks for the song.
It's called Will of the People.
We've got an animation studio.
This is going to be an amazing video.
lydia smith
I'm so excited.
adam crigler
It's very cool.
tim pool
So stick around and we'll be back tomorrow and we'll see you then.
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