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June 29, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Far Left Rioters Charged With Terror In OKC, Prosecutor Says "This Is NOT Seattle"
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
How's it going everybody?
We are back. Hello. My throat still hurts a little bit, but it's good. I could do most of the time
You know, you know, you know what happened last week is that I had recorded with Nishra. Mm-hmm, and we're laying
down I this song that I normally sang is called will of the
people and it's the whole thing is belting That's so good. The whole it's like five minutes of
And so I do I we had recorded like I think we did six takes Yeah.
So that, you know, she can, you know, I can do it a little bit better.
And then that just, like, thrashed my throat.
And then we did the Friday Night Jam and I went... Dude, you went nuts.
I went almost all out on it until my throat melted.
adam crigler
I don't know, you went... I've listened to you sing that song many, many times.
You know how many times I've heard you actually hit that high note?
tim pool
I don't do it normally.
adam crigler
How many times do you think have I heard it?
tim pool
You didn't.
adam crigler
Not one time.
That was the first time.
So you went all out.
He went all out.
tim pool
I didn't go all out, because the second half of that goes even higher, and I didn't do it.
adam crigler
Of course I was wrong.
Can I get my shot over here?
Thank you.
I've been waiting since Wednesday to do this for you.
tim pool
To spin the UFO.
adam crigler
Oh, it feels so good.
unidentified
Let's do it.
Here we go.
adam crigler
Oh, yes.
Smash the like button.
Smash it.
Smash it, please.
tim pool
Welcome back, everybody.
We've got a show for you tonight.
adam crigler
I have fun.
tim pool
We're chilling, as per usual.
This is the Tim Cast IRL Podcast.
We missed three days last week because I thought that even though my voice was like, we could be fine, and then one day I woke up, I literally couldn't talk.
I was like, oh man.
adam crigler
And you kept working.
You kept talking.
tim pool
No, no, I took a whole day off.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, you did take that one day off.
tim pool
But then the next day I did half days.
But it was funny because when I was singing on Friday for the jam session, people were like, don't do it, Tim!
You'll lose your voice!
And I was like, nah, it's fine.
But you know, because the thing is, normally when I sing, I wouldn't lose my voice.
adam crigler
I actually warned you, you know that, right?
Halfway through the jam, I was like, half of the people are stoked, the other half are like, don't do it!
unidentified
Stop!
Stop, please!
adam crigler
I'm glad you went.
unidentified
All last week, I'm like, welcome to the Tim Capstone Show!
tim pool
I'm feeling better now.
I still have a little bit of a sore throat.
adam crigler
Yeah, I can hear it.
tim pool
But it's a combination of doing the recording and then just like, I went a little too hard on myself.
adam crigler
Hey Tim, Tim, try not to let me work you up so much, okay?
tim pool
You work me up?
What do you mean?
adam crigler
I'm just kidding.
tim pool
I have here this delicious soda.
lydia smith
It's perfect for the throat.
tim pool
It's awful for the throat.
unidentified
You shouldn't do it.
adam crigler
No, you gotta drink some delicious kombucha.
What are you talking about?
tim pool
That weird hippie vinegar drink.
adam crigler
Hey, you tried it.
You said it was good.
tim pool
Yeah, it was okay.
adam crigler
This is the best kombucha I've ever had.
tim pool
Yeah, normally I don't like it.
How about we talk about some crazy rioters in OKC being charged with terror?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We got a bunch of stuff to talk about.
We got the rioters in OKC.
The prosecutor was like, this is not Seattle.
You're getting terrorism charges.
That is, that is like, it's not just throwing the book, it's like dropping books on them until they're like actually hurt.
And then we got Reddit banned the Donald, which is a weird lie that makes no sense that I think is just designed to smear Donald Trump.
That's what I think the real, the real reason they did it was.
adam crigler
I think so too.
tim pool
Because the Donald has been inactive.
You can't even post to it, it's my understanding.
And so all of a sudden they're like, they broke the rules, we're banning them.
And it's like, How do you break the rules when you've left?
There's nobody there.
It's a dead subreddit.
adam crigler
They started their own website.
tim pool
But it makes Trump look bad.
Trump supporters are harassing people.
That's the New York Times story.
adam crigler
That's all they're doing, just trying to blow hot air everywhere.
tim pool
I'm sorry, this is not even the most important news.
We can talk about the chaos and the rioting, and Trump himself got suspended from Twitch.
You know what the most important story of tonight will be?
adam crigler
Smashing the like button?
No.
tim pool
Aliens.
adam crigler
Are we going to talk aliens, Tim?
tim pool
So apparently, Senate Intelligence has confirmed the existence of some kind of UFO task force or something like this.
adam crigler
Okay.
So this isn't that, like what we talked about before where they were like, yes, this stuff is, it's an actual video, but that's all they said.
Yeah, it's confirmed.
tim pool
There are three major UFO events that have just happened that I've seen recently.
And one of them was in Houston, one of them was in Miami, but there's another video going viral showing these weird, like, air vortexes all lined up in the sky.
adam crigler
I haven't seen that video yet.
You told me about it though.
tim pool
Yeah, it was on Reddit, it was on Instagram.
And so, I'm somewhat kidding about this being the most important story, but considering 2020 couldn't possibly get stranger, I'm like, alright, aliens!
Alright, here we go!
And there's a story now that's confirming the U.S.
Navy has a UFO test force.
That doesn't really surprise me.
We're going to talk about it really surprised.
We're going to turn the knob all the to 11 just in terms of absurdity on this one.
Because you know what, man, I'll tell you what, Hillary Clinton is going to be the
nominee. Joe Biden is going to like it's going to be where the aliens are going to
come. They're going to abduct Biden.
Hillary's going to come out. It's going to be just that.
That's how it happens. Because because 2020 could not be weirder.
How how insane is it that they're like.
So now they're saying all 20 to 29 year olds are like the it's the biggest age group
of coronavirus infections now.
adam crigler
Of course they're saying that.
tim pool
And everyone's like, gee, I wonder what they were doing two weeks ago.
And then you know what the people in the media are saying?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
They must have been going to bars.
adam crigler
What's been going on for the past two weeks?
Everyone's been just drinking at bars.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's it.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, bars haven't been open.
tim pool
What are you talking about?
A lot of them have in New York.
OK, but come on.
We know it's the protests.
adam crigler
Yes, of course.
tim pool
They're just desperate.
So now they're like, well, all of these 20, 29 year olds are experiencing no symptoms.
Don't even know they have it.
But let's shut everything down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, man.
adam crigler
So I don't believe it.
tim pool
If you haven't already, welcome to the show.
Make sure you subscribe, like, notification bell and smash the like button smash smash yeah apparently smashing the like button helps us yes it does and sometimes you just got to get it off the chest you know you just smash the like button just yeah man it's it's it's it's you know you don't need a therapist what are you gonna do there sit there and just pretend like they're listening no no you you smash that like button and all of your troubles go away just all releases
adam crigler
I smashed the like button because we're gonna talk about aliens.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Here's what you do.
I want you to imagine all of your troubles and fears and push it down into a little ball and now put it in the like button.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And now smash it!
unidentified
Oh!
adam crigler
I did it!
I feel better.
I feel enlightened.
Thank you, Tim.
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah, okay.
How about we talk about what's going on around the country, man?
Because we got some crazy news.
Check this out.
Over in Oklahoma City, Three rioters are arrested for terrorism.
Quote, this is not Seattle, says county attorney.
adam crigler
I love that he actually said that.
tim pool
I'm glad he did.
adam crigler
Me too.
tim pool
Man.
adam crigler
Finally, right?
This is where regular Americans live.
Nah.
Go to Seattle if you want some of that stuff.
tim pool
So, I mean, look.
Let's be real.
This is the story, right?
We don't need to go too much in detail, but... And that's it!
adam crigler
Make sure you smash that like button and subscribe.
tim pool
Thanks for tuning in.
What I'm saying is, I don't need to read through here and tell you the names of the people and how they, you know, Chaz and all that stuff.
adam crigler
All the specifics, yeah, you're right.
tim pool
The news here is, finally, something is being done.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
Finally, you've got people who are saying, like, you see this huge book in my right hand?
adam crigler
Wham!
tim pool
Right in the face.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
You know that comic, that meme of Batman smacking Robin?
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
That's what it feels like.
They're like, we're peacefully, wham!
With the book.
They go flying.
Finally.
lydia smith
That's not a peaceful protest.
adam crigler
And this is not the only case.
I mean, I don't have anything offhand, but I'm seeing it all over the place.
tim pool
The DOJ.
adam crigler
Where people are just like, no more.
We're done with this.
tim pool
The DOJ announced four people being charged over the Andrew Jackson.
One of them got arrested.
They executed a warrant.
They tracked this person down.
Man, these people are, they're dangerously insane.
And I don't mean that to be disrespectful to people.
I'm not trying to disparage the differently abled.
I mean, quite literally, these people are being preyed upon by extremists.
And we see this with what happened in Louisville, because you heard about what happened in Louisville, right?
adam crigler
I'm not sure what happened.
tim pool
So this guy, who's clearly unwell, was a part of the riots, a part of the protests in the park.
It's an occupation-style protest.
And all these people are like, it's a peaceful protest in Louisville.
They're just camping.
This guy was arrested twice.
It was twice, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, it was twice.
tim pool
For rioting charges.
And he's handcuffing himself.
He's doing this activism.
So apparently he gets into a fight with some people in the park with the peaceful protesters who had previously been arrested for rioting.
They throw him out.
And so he walks, he's at the edge of the park and he takes a handgun and he fires twice in the air and then just aims and starts firing randomly into the park.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
Killed a photographer.
Shot in the face.
And then some other people returned fire, I guess, hit him in the leg and took him down.
And then he came and got arrested.
This guy was one of the activists with Black Lives Matter who had been arrested for rioting.
And he had a gun, he had two mags, and apparently when he was arrested the first time, They caught him with the weapons.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
And they released him, apparently.
adam crigler
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Is what I read, and I could be wrong, so make sure you guys fact check me on this one.
I read that when he was arrested, the police arrested him with this firearm.
On my understanding, it was legal.
It was legal, though.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so, I don't know if the argument is here, but he got released.
He got released, and he had his weapon, and he is insane.
He's a criminally, you know, deranged dude.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
I tell you, I don't know, man.
I feel like...
How did he end up with this weapon?
A lot of people on the left think it's a conspiracy.
They're like, no, the police staged this.
I'm like, what do you mean?
The guy's crazy.
Everyone knew who he was.
People in the park were talking about it.
They're like, we know who this guy is.
So he's only been charged with murder and wanton endangerment.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
How does this guy not get charged with terrorism?
adam crigler
Yeah, right?
tim pool
I guess because the motive was just like passion crime.
adam crigler
Hmm.
tim pool
The thing about these people in Oklahoma City, which is interesting, is that, you know, terrorism is the political motivation.
It's like, it's like a, it's like almost like a hate crime.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Hate crime is about identity.
Terrorism is about ideology.
So these people commit a crime to push an ideology.
You get, you get locked up.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
adam crigler
It feels like Black Lives Matter has like four different tendrils coming out and they all, everyone at the ends of each one are so drastically different about how they do things and what they believe.
It feels like they're not the same group at all.
tim pool
Well, this is part of far left tactics.
It's called the diversity of tactics.
And in my opinion, it's a way to manipulate, you know, dopey lefty regular Americans who are stupid and don't understand what's going on.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So what happens is, oftentimes you'll see these protests where, you know, doofy old Americans are bopping about with their little pink hats on, holding up little signs that say nonsensical things like, ban assault rifles.
They're like, those are already banned.
adam crigler
They're legal already.
tim pool
Yeah, and so they don't even know what they're protesting for.
In order to weaponize that ignorance, they tell these people, if you see someone committing a crime, you have to respect the diversity of tactics.
That's the most insane thing I've ever heard.
adam crigler
That's crazy, yeah.
tim pool
You know why that's insane?
Imagine if you were going to war, and one general is like, I am going to mass my troops on these two fronts and move forward and crush their capital.
And the other side, they're like, we should send our troops to defend this, or we should also send our troops to the sea, or to the desert.
It's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
We have no plan.
There's no diversity of tactics.
We need tactics to use.
You can't just randomly do things.
The reason they do that is it's an excuse that sounds like it makes sense.
And that way they can manipulate these people who are unwell and stupid into doing what they actually need.
So the reality is, the diversity of tactics they claim is actually just, they're tricking you into doing, being the shields for their violence.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
So there have been stories about this where they'll actually, these activists plan this out, they'll say, we're going to have a big group of people who are just going to be holding up signs.
We need to lead them into this street illegally so they get arrested.
Two reasons.
The first, they want these people to get arrested so that it radicalizes them.
They get angry.
They say, I don't understand.
Why am I being arrested?
I didn't do anything wrong.
I'm protesting.
Then these organizations say, we'll bail you out, right?
We're here for you.
And the other issue is it creates a massive disturbance.
adam crigler
Do you think that's what happened in St.
Louis?
You think someone did that?
tim pool
For what?
adam crigler
Led them into, because it was a private street that they, they went through the gate, you know, that the Oh, right, right, right.
The two most famous Americans right now.
tim pool
Let's pull this up, let's pull this up.
adam crigler
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, the St.
unidentified
Louis.
adam crigler
Yeah, so it was a private lot.
They went through a private gate that said, no trespassing.
They just went through and they're like, they were yelling.
All the videos of them yelling, we're on the sidewalk, we're in the street.
Yep.
But it was a private street that they weren't allowed to be on.
tim pool
And the organizers, I would be willing to bet, knew this.
adam crigler
I'm sure, yeah.
tim pool
So, they were going to the mayor's house.
You guys may have seen this story.
You got this, um, there's memes going crazy about this couple.
They're they're delicious with his rifle and her, and her handgun.
And they have no idea how to, how to hold weapons or use them.
There's several points where he actually like, he, he, he muzzles his wife.
He like points the gun at her and he's not paying attention.
And it's like, he's, he's, it's just pointed at her.
And there's a couple of times where she's behind him and she's like this with their
gun pointed at his, his head too.
Like, what are you, did your fingers on the trigger?
adam crigler
Just like the camera optics showing.
tim pool
It looks like it.
adam crigler
It does look like she... It looks like she's standing way far behind him, though.
No, no.
tim pool
Like, they're standing next to each other.
There's video where it's like she's standing behind him like this, and it looks... And she has her finger on the trigger.
Yeah, she does.
adam crigler
I mean... And there's also photos... I think they were prepared to shoot these people, though, in all honesty.
I do.
tim pool
There's a video of her walking towards, it looks like, the crowd with the gun pointed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, here's the thing.
adam crigler
Here's the thing.
tim pool
Private property. 100%.
unidentified
Mhm.
tim pool
It's confirmed by everybody.
adam crigler
It is, yeah.
tim pool
This is a private community, it's gated, you need a key to get into it.
unidentified
Mhm.
tim pool
The way the couple explained it is that, it's like, he claims, I guess, or some resident, as soon as you walk in that gate, it's like being in someone's living room.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Legally.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
The argument being that, like, we can just, we can just shoot ya.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Legally, they could have, right?
tim pool
That's the big debate happening right now.
Of course, all these lefty publications are like, oh, they're going to go to jail.
adam crigler
That was criminal.
Against peaceful protesters that were breaking into their living room, basically.
tim pool
Breaking into their community.
Because I don't know if you can legally argue that a private street constitutes your living room.
adam crigler
Well, weren't they yelling that they were going to kill them?
tim pool
That's what the couple said.
The couple said that the the guy said that he was having dinner on his patio and these people started like trying to break in because you need a key.
Yeah.
That's what's been reported out.
Okay so you know if it's not true that's just what it was written by a local outlet.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So they break in and The gate wasn't smashed at first, but at some point it did get smashed up, I don't know why.
And he said, at first he told them this is private property, you can't come in here.
And they started yelling things at him like, you know, F you, we'll burn your house down, you know, we'll kill you, things like that.
We've heard that stuff before.
Look in New Mexico.
I don't remember exactly what that guy yelled, it may have been like, he's gonna kill you or we're gonna kill you, it's hard to tell what he said.
But we've heard people like yell these things about threatening the lives of other people.
adam crigler
So these are people who are... Well, not only that.
They're seeing people actually beat people up.
People are actually being assaulted.
And... Louisville just happened.
By rioters.
Yeah, exactly.
By their own people.
Right, exactly.
tim pool
But nobody knew.
You got a video coming out of Louisville where a guy standing on the edge of the park just firing into the crowd.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So when a group of people start coming in, and these two people said that they looked like... They said they were armed.
These people had weapons.
They went and got their weapons.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But back to the main point you mentioned about a lot of these people not knowing it.
These people who marched had no idea.
None whatsoever.
adam crigler
Probably not.
tim pool
And you know what's crazy?
They could have gotten killed.
Yep.
You know what, man?
Stupid games.
These kids don't understand what they're getting themselves into.
And so you have in the CHAZ now the fifth shooting in I think like five or six days.
Fifth.
And it was like two kids.
It was like 16 and 14 years old, right?
adam crigler
It's messed up.
Little kids are getting hit.
tim pool
Well, they were driving a car, something happened.
The activists are like, oh, they rammed the barrier or something.
adam crigler
They were trying to claim, and there's a lot of videos of them talking about how the white SUV was driving around in circles, shooting into the Chaz.
tim pool
I didn't hear that, though, in the live stream.
adam crigler
So I've seen different videos.
There's many different videos from different viewpoints.
And it doesn't prove anything because each thing is like kind of a different instance.
You're already hearing gunshots go off.
So things are already happening.
But in that video that we watched earlier, you clearly hear a gun from a fairly heavy rifle going off.
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
And then you hear the SCV hitting the barricade.
I don't know.
tim pool
There's also a video where there's a video where three guys are walking and they're like, if you want to be safe, get to the police precinct now.
It was like, this is your last warning.
And then all of a sudden you hear pops and they run towards it.
Did they know this was going to happen?
Why were they telling people, like, get to the police precinct now if you want to be safe?
This is your last warning.
Last warning for what?
Why?
What was about to happen?
Ten seconds later, gunshots.
They run towards them.
What did they know?
Maybe nothing, maybe it was just coincidence.
I'll tell you what, you get a video like that, you get a video like Louisville, and then you have these two people sitting in their house when a mob breaks their gate down.
Okay, a little exaggerated.
At some point, the gate got broken down.
adam crigler
but they're entering private property. It opened somehow, you know, it didn't get...
And there's a sign saying nope, no trespassing. Yeah, in the video it's just open, it's not
broken or anything, but they clearly got in there. No, the photos that were taken later showed it was
Yeah, later on, but people were already in there.
When it showed the people walking through the gate, the gate was fine at that point.
tim pool
So here's what I see happening, right?
You have these people go on Facebook, or whatever, and their friends are like, are you going to come down to protest?
Because we're going to go protest the mayor.
And they're like, oh my god, that's so cool.
I totally want to protest.
And they show up, and they're handed a sign, because typically they'll make a bunch of signs and hand them out.
And then you get these really dumb, you know, 20-somethings who are like, I'm mad about something I've never researched.
I'm mad about something I've never researched.
unidentified
That's so accurate, though.
adam crigler
That is it right there.
tim pool
Then the organizers open up the gate to a private lot and they go, right this way, my friends.
And they're like, yeah, I'm mad.
I have no idea where I'm going.
adam crigler
But you go ahead.
I'm going to wait out here where we're legally allowed to protest.
I'm sure that's what happened, too.
tim pool
And then why are these people yelling?
It's a public street.
Because they have no idea what's happening around them.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
It's dangerous, man.
adam crigler
But it's very clear the no trespassing sign.
Yep.
It's right in the front of the gate.
It's like, no trespassing.
It's the only sign on the gate.
tim pool
Let me tell you a story, man.
When I was like 16, I think, I got asked by some chick off like Myspace or something to come with her to a protest.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It was an Iraq war protest, I think, in Chicago.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And I was like, yeah, I'm down.
I hate the war, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, sure.
I want to get laid.
unidentified
Well, no.
adam crigler
For me, I was like... I'm just messing with you, man.
Go ahead.
tim pool
I was like, dude, I was punk rock.
I was writing all these punk rock songs.
And I was like, yeah, F4!
And so I showed up and we marched around the loop or whatever.
Some far lefty dudes... I can't remember how old... Maybe I was 17 or 18.
But these, like, you know, far lefty types in all black were shoving cops, knocking them down.
And, like, the bleeding heart type hippie liberals who were organizing it got angry and they were like, stop, stop, don't do this, and, like, pushed them away.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And, like, helped the cop back up.
We marched around and then finally we got to, I think it was Grant Park, Millennial Park, whatever they named it, I don't know.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then someone announced, the protest is now going to join the teacher's strike.
And I was like, what?
adam crigler
What now?
tim pool
College professors were striking at a nearby university.
So they were like, everybody go join them.
And I was like, what?
I was like, I don't care about their salaries.
I'm talking about war in a foreign country.
They all went up and joined them.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And so I stopped.
And then some of these pharmacy types were straggling behind.
And once they started to walk into the park, this one woman turns around.
She goes, are you coming?
You're going to join us?
And I got really angry.
And I was like, They're talking about getting more money for their six-figure cushy job or whatever as tenured professors, and we're talking about war in a foreign country.
And I just snapped and I was like, F these people and F anybody who's gonna walk away.
I'm gonna keep walking.
And I was by myself and I just left.
And I was like, that was really disillusioning for me.
I was like, these people don't know what they're talking about.
These people who are marching just joined a strike and then pretended like they knew why any of these people cared.
And I was like, get out of here, dude.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You've done no research.
You have no idea who these people are.
You have no idea what they're fighting for.
And you just go and stand there?
adam crigler
Morons.
It's because of the cool points.
They want to be cool.
What's cool?
Standing up for the minority, standing up against the man.
tim pool
It's like one of the guys was talking about eating a car or something.
adam crigler
It's just a fad.
It's like, unless you actually know the research and understand what you're doing, what are you doing?
tim pool
So that's why in my family, the funniest thing is the posts coming from the white part of my family are all like, we have to be good allies and stand up and fight for the rights of people.
And the posts coming from the Asian side of my family are like, Trump is clearly in the right on this one.
And I'm like, what is wrong with everyone?
adam crigler
What is going on?
tim pool
This is not supposed to be this way.
You'd think it'd be the white people being like, I'm very fragile, harumph, how dare you challenge my status?
And the poor minorities would be like, we need help because the evil whites- No, it's not even like that.
I get hit up by the Asian part of my family very often just being like, America!
unidentified
Woo!
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Not all of them.
Not all of them.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
But it's just nothing.
You know what, man?
Nothing makes sense.
And so you have right now, you have wave, it comes and goes in waves, I guess.
And one of the things I've said is like, Republicans happen to be right.
It's not so much Republicans at all, actually.
Conservatives tend to be right.
adam crigler
It's the people in the middle of the bell curve.
We got the left, we got the right, and then we have most of everybody who's like, what is going on with these crazy people?
tim pool
They'll shift a little to the left, a little to the right, back and forth, right?
adam crigler
Sure, sure, sure.
tim pool
It's the dance of life.
And so sometimes you have the left and sometimes it's the right.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Now it's disheartening to see Jon Stewart.
Clearly I have no idea what he's talking about.
adam crigler
Oh no.
tim pool
He's been so out of the game for so long.
Yeah, that's just... it's... where are the... I mean, Bill Maher still exists.
It's weird, because he's got Trump Derangement Syndrome very severely.
adam crigler
Yeah, he does.
tim pool
But he calls it out correctly, like, so often.
adam crigler
That's true, yeah.
tim pool
And I said some really dumb things about the economy.
He's like, if a recession gets rid of Trump, bring on the recession.
It's like, you realize people die in recessions, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
But at least he's, uh... What was the most recent thing he talked about?
I can't remember.
It was something about white people stop being offended for other people.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's exactly what he was saying.
adam crigler
He's like, you can't... I would love that.
He's like, how do we... I mean, it's not just white people, though.
Come on, it's... It's mostly white people, bro.
Anyone can...
Sure, there's no denying that, but it's like anyone can have that complex where they have to be offended for someone else.
It's like, we gotta just let that go.
Come on.
tim pool
You know what the funny thing about white fragility is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
That book.
adam crigler
The book?
tim pool
Is that, like, the most fragile white people are the people who are promoting that book.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
For real, though.
adam crigler
Look, this justifies why I'm so fragile!
tim pool
Well, there's a video of a white woman yelling at a black female cop, and she's holding up a sign and screaming, and the back of the cardboard she's holding says Fragile on it.
unidentified
And I was like, that's just so perfect.
tim pool
And then somebody asks her, they're filming, they're like, do you not see the problem with you yelling at this black woman?
And she's like, she's part of the system.
I, I can fight racism.
I have to do it.
And it's like, you are so fragile.
You snap in two seconds.
adam crigler
They all do.
They all snap.
It's an emotional trigger that they just go like, whoa, I was just trying to have a logical conversation with you.
It happens all the time.
It's crazy.
tim pool
You know that Rick and Morty episode where Rick is making a little robot at the breakfast table?
adam crigler
Oh yes.
tim pool
And then he makes a little robot and then the robot goes, what is my purpose?
adam crigler
To spin the UFO.
tim pool
I meant and he goes you pass you pass butter or no he goes past the butter and it pushes it and it goes
What is my purpose you pass butter and then looks his hands and goes. Oh my god
I laughed so hard when I first saw that but it reminds me of like what do you think would happen?
when all of these like fringe lefty woke white women who are leading the charge because it is
It is like a large proportion the plurality of this group is white women when they realize they're the karens
adam crigler
They want all the attention.
tim pool
No, what do you think they do when they realize they're the Karens?
When the Karen was you the whole time?
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
Because it is.
Think about it.
adam crigler
All I can picture is that one woman getting on her knees and screaming, no!
tim pool
Right.
Now think about this.
How many videos have been released of Karen's?
adam crigler
Oh, so many.
tim pool
But in the single digits?
In the past year, right?
adam crigler
Oh, I don't know.
tim pool
Five?
adam crigler
Really?
I thought it would be more than that.
tim pool
There's the woman in the park with the dog.
There's the woman with the guy with the Black Lives Matter on his porch.
adam crigler
What else is there to see?
Viral, viral Karen's.
lydia smith
So, I've seen a few like in stores.
There was a lady who got slapped across the face by a Hispanic lady for calling her names
and a bunch of other middle-aged ladies get in trouble with, by calling people names.
But, it's not that many.
tim pool
Of the high-profile Karen-ing moments, there's been like single digits.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
Well, that's because it's probably not that many Karens.
They're a minority.
tim pool
You gotta let me finish.
adam crigler
Oh, goodness.
tim pool
These videos of white women at protests screeching on top of their lungs, demanding the supervisor from the police, yelling, Over the past several years.
adam crigler
So we've been seeing... So we are seeing Karens all over the place.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's what you're saying.
The point I'm making is... There's all sorts of them.
When they promote these, like, racist Karens, there's, like, seven.
And when we see videos of these SJW Karens, there's, like, three thousand.
Oh, Big Red?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Exactly.
She's a Karen Queen.
lydia smith
Classic, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, Big Red.
You know Big Red?
Patriarchy!
Man, these, look, you see that video of the woman screeching at the black woman holding the fragile sign?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a Karen!
adam crigler
Totally.
tim pool
What's the difference?
adam crigler
It's the same, you're right.
tim pool
She's screaming at a black woman.
Look, you show me a video.
adam crigler
About Black Lives Matter.
Yeah, seriously, the irony's lost.
tim pool
You show me a video of a white woman screaming at a minority and say, it's a Karen, and then you show me the same thing from the Black Lives Matter activists and I'm like, why is that not a Karen?
It's literally the same components.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
And there's way more.
Way, way more videos of white women screaming at black people from the left.
adam crigler
They're still minorities.
tim pool
Who are?
adam crigler
Those Karens.
What do you mean minorities?
It's a minority group who are the New Age Karens.
That's a minority.
tim pool
What do you mean a minority group?
adam crigler
The majority of humans in America.
I mean, we're talking American politics right now.
So it's like, I think the American woman is a majority over the minority Karen screamers that we're seeing.
tim pool
68% of millennial women?
adam crigler
Sure, but millennials make up how much of the population compared to all of humans.
tim pool
Well, Gen Z is the biggest. Every next generation is bigger than the previous.
adam crigler
Sure, Karens exist, but...
Everyone's pointing at them going, wow, look at those Karens.
tim pool
Except when it's leftist Karens, which is the overwhelming majority of Karens.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the point, because they're not self-aware.
They haven't yet realized they were the Karen the whole time.
So that's the point I'm making, like, what do you think happens when they finally have this, like, reality snap where they look at their hands like, I'm a Karen!
It's me!
adam crigler
Do you think they're all going to be in a room just reeing at each other?
tim pool
Karen!
They're all going to be demanding the manager.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
I want to speak to your manager.
tim pool
I just got a good idea.
adam crigler
It just keeps going down and around.
Like, well, if you want to speak to my manager, I want to speak to your manager.
tim pool
And then it turns out it's a loop of managers.
It's a big circle of Karens.
And each Karen in front of them is their own manager.
Oh my goodness.
And so they're like, they turn around.
Who's your manager?
That's my manager.
I want to speak with your manager.
And then it finally comes back to them.
They're like, I'm the manager, but you're my manager.
unidentified
But I'm the Karen.
adam crigler
Cue the Spider-Man meme of them pointing at each other.
tim pool
Wait, what?
I have seen way more videos of angry white women screaming at minorities from the left than I have from anything conceivable.
adam crigler
I want all the attention!
That's all I'm seeing right there.
tim pool
I wonder why it is, you know?
Like, what is it?
Toxic femininity?
adam crigler
No, it's because everyone wants to be valued.
At the core of us as human beings, we want to be appreciated, loved, and needed.
I don't care who you are, you want that.
You want to have a purpose.
If we don't have any of those things, we go a little cuckoo.
People are going cuckoo.
tim pool
Have you seen that video of the woman with the fragile sign?
adam crigler
Yeah, I've seen that.
tim pool
The look on her eyes, man.
She's like bugged out.
adam crigler
Right, it's when you lose, you don't have a purpose, and your screws start getting really loose, and then they start popping off, and then everything just starts jumbling apart, and then you are crazy.
Then you get that.
tim pool
Or perhaps their brains were taken over by alien brain slugs.
And that explains UFOs.
adam crigler
Well, I don't see any of them wearing beanies, though.
tim pool
That's how you mask the scars where the aliens have taken over.
adam crigler
Oh, did we just figure the truth of Tim's beanie?
tim pool
We'll save the alien stuff for this.
But listen, here's what I want to mention, right?
Check this out.
Dozens arrested, carried away in handcuffs after protest in Beverly Hills.
adam crigler
Oh no, Beverly Hills, huh?
tim pool
Yeah, because they're coming for the suburbs.
They're coming for your homes.
That's like the St.
Louis couple.
I think the organizers know they want you to feel unsafe in your house.
They want you to bend your knees, to get on your knees and beg.
You know the St.
Louis couple actually published a letter, according to one of the local journalists, supporting the protests and blaming white people?
unidentified
I kid you not, literally blaming white people.
adam crigler
I don't know who they saw that yelled at them and made them fear for their lives.
tim pool
Come on.
adam crigler
I don't know.
Okay.
tim pool
You ever see that video, 10 hours of walking in New York as a woman?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Totally doctored.
tim pool
Do you know about the crazy controversy that erupted afterwards about racism?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, because he was asked, why is it that everybody in the video hollering at women is black?
And then he was like, oh, actually, I edited out all the white people.
I kid you not.
That's what he said.
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
Yeah.
He edited all the white people out.
adam crigler
Of course.
lydia smith
That doesn't look good.
tim pool
Doesn't look good.
And for what reason?
I don't know exactly what he said his reasoning was, but these people are con artists, man.
It's a gimmick.
It's a ploy.
And I often tell people, like on the left, my friends, not super politically active ones, who do you think benefits the most from everything that's happening right now?
adam crigler
Corporations.
tim pool
White people.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So, who's leading these protests?
adam crigler
See, white people, as a statement, I don't like that.
I don't appreciate that.
unidentified
What do you mean?
adam crigler
Because, I mean, I'm a white person, and I'm not gaining anything from this stuff.
This is making America burn down.
I don't like it.
Well, it's like white corporations.
tim pool
It's white identitarianism.
adam crigler
It's the people who are in charge of everything.
Sure, maybe.
tim pool
If you say that it's racist to have minority mascots, And you get rid of all these minority mascots.
But we mentioned this before, like, Mr. Clean's fine.
And he's like a bald white dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think those are ridiculous.
Uncle Ben's rice was awesome.
I would see Uncle Ben's face and I'd be like, hmm, wholesome rice.
I'm gonna get some of that, because I know it's a good product.
tim pool
It's like, what does that have to do with race?
So I'll put it this way.
White supremacists are benefiting the most from everything the left is doing.
adam crigler
Okay, sure.
And left supremacists.
No.
They're benefiting.
tim pool
What are you talking about?
It depends on what happens in November for sure.
Because the argument is that the riots are going to make the silent majority vote for the right.
And you're going to get more nationalistic right wing.
I'm not saying Trump is a white supremacist or anything like that.
I'm saying it's not benefiting the left.
It's going to potentially help Trump get reelected.
So when you look at what the left is actually engaging in, the end result is a benefit for white supremacists.
And that's what horrifies me the most.
Because you look at that video where the 10 hours of walking through New York as a woman, what does the guy do?
For whatever reason, he edits the white people out.
I don't get it.
Yeah, because these people, in my opinion, are white supremacists.
Or at least they have a backwards ideology where they don't realize what they're doing.
It's like, maybe they're being useful idiots, I have no idea.
adam crigler
This whole cat calling thing in itself is stupid because it's like, what happened before there was Tinder?
What did you do when you saw an attractive person?
Hey, I find you attractive.
Can I speak to you?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
I mean, sure, there's different levels and there's a line that suddenly you're gross and you don't have to cross that line at all.
That's how people used to get together.
Like, hey, I find you attractive.
tim pool
The line really is if you personally are attractive.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
Oh, is that it?
tim pool
The line changes.
adam crigler
If you're attractive, you can catcall.
If you're not, you're gross and disgusting.
tim pool
In varying ways.
So if you're 6'3", tall, dark, and handsome, chiseled, ripped, deep blue eyes, that guy... So, you know, me, for example.
You could probably say some pretty messed up things to women and they'd be into it.
lydia smith
They did that on Tinder, they did an experiment, didn't they?
adam crigler
Oh my goodness, didn't we do an episode on this?
I thought we did, we talked about this in our earlier episodes and it was bad.
tim pool
Speaking specifically about physical world and catcalling, if you are a 45 year old overweight short guy with your belly hanging out while you're sitting at work and you're like, hey girl, I thought dad bods are in right now because it shows you're fiscally comfortable.
If you're a fit, listen, in that video, this is where the scale of absurdity starts coming in, where they start saying everything is bad.
So masculinity is a good thing.
Toxic masculinity, fine, but now everything masculine is toxic.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
So this is what happens with catcalling, right?
You have, in that video, a guy being like, how's it going?
And they're like, how dare you?
adam crigler
Goodness sakes, I am so offended.
You're asking me how I am.
tim pool
One guy's like, have a nice day, ma'am.
So yeah, you're right.
How are you supposed to meet somebody before Tinder?
You'd be walking down the street, you might see a beautiful woman, you'd be like, pardon me miss, my name's Tim, nice to meet you.
adam crigler
That is literally how I met my wife.
I'm not joking at all.
I met her, I was working at a store, she came in, and I was like, hello.
We talked for two hours in the store.
I was clearly into her.
She was clearly into me.
It matched, and that's what happened.
Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
Now you're married.
adam crigler
But it's true.
tim pool
Just like that.
Like, they walked out of the store, they went to Vegas.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Got married.
adam crigler
Yep.
lydia smith
Magic.
adam crigler
Exactly.
lydia smith
Perfect.
adam crigler
No, but it's like, there needs to be some sort of... Man, we need thicker skin.
What happened to all our... Being a thick-skinned... It's fake outrage, man.
unidentified
Come on.
adam crigler
It's fake outrage.
tim pool
Like, in that video when someone says, like, Come on.
Have a nice day, ma'am.
Like, how dare you!
adam crigler
It's like, are you just being upset because you're looking for things to be upset about?
Yes, Lydia agrees.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
A lot of the time.
It's boredom.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's boredom.
It's... I think it has to do with people wanting to feel powerful.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And that's why... Absolutely.
adam crigler
Or just simply having a purpose and, you know, going online and having a lot of people go, I'm with you.
I'm, I'm on your side here.
How dare all these people.
And then all of a sudden, boom, they have, you know, it's a group recruiting technique, a cult recruiting technique.
That's that's that's spot on.
tim pool
It's called love bombing.
They surround you and they hug you and they love you and they make you feel validated.
I don't know what video game this was.
Maybe you've played it where the difficulty settings are like, it's like normal, hard, very hard, easy.
And I had a hard day at work.
I just want to feel powerful.
lydia smith
Oh no.
tim pool
It's dangerous.
I kid you not.
I can't remember which game this was.
Maybe you guys listening might know what I'm talking about.
Something like that.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
No, no, no.
That's fine.
It's like you want to play a game where you can just be the demigod with, you know, laser beam eyes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And you go around and you, like, I play GTA and I put on the cheat codes and I jump super high and I punch people and it's like, you just play GTA.
It's fun.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's just, you go around riding your dirt bike and jumping in the air and crashing.
Sometimes people just want to play games so they can feel powerful.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
What happens when people don't have that outlet and they don't feel, they feel powerless.
It's, it's like, you know, uh, there's a trope about the bully at school is actually being abused by his dad.
adam crigler
Uh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like the bully will be picking on some kid and then he goes home.
It turns out his dad's picking on him and so he redirects his anger.
adam crigler
He's taking it out.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what, that's what everything, everyone is doing.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
They're at home.
They're powerless.
Everything sucks.
They feel miserable.
They're purposeless, even though life is better than ever.
And so they take it out on you.
adam crigler
Well, they don't have to work for the things that used to be hard in life.
You know, nowadays, the hardships that we deal with, you know, is like putting enough, well, I mean, you have to work for food, but it's like, what are the hardships?
We're worried about what people say about us online.
People are banning for like, that person said something that really hurts me to the core because four generations ago, this happened to me.
And it's like, I mean, you could apply that to anything.
Anyone can get upset.
tim pool
Think about what, so Reddit is banning a bunch of people.
Think about what that site's gonna be like when they just keep banning everyone who's offended by anything.
You are allowed to say the word, the.
adam crigler
Well, who's, this is what I'm wondering, like who goes there anymore?
You know, I was actually shocked to find Reddit was so prevalent still, and I don't think that's gonna last very much longer.
tim pool
Oh, I agree.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, Facebook even, you know, it's like over almost 1,200 comments Over a thousand of them said no of my tweet asking if Facebook got deleted, would you care?
Would you be upset?
unidentified
I wouldn't.
adam crigler
Everyone was like, no.
lydia smith
No way.
adam crigler
I go on Facebook nowadays, half of the posts are anti-Trump stuff being resurgitated and I like look into it and it's all not true.
It's all, and I ask like, hey, where's your source?
This is my source.
Didn't you not see what I just posted?
I'm like, did you read it?
tim pool
Well, no.
adam crigler
Straight up, that's what they say to me.
No, I didn't read it.
I just reposted it.
tim pool
I know it's true because it's a man who replied to Trump a minute after Trump tweeted.
Therefore, that's my source.
adam crigler
And this is the best part.
Someone was like, you know, that's not true.
I was just reading and they're like, yes, I know and I don't care.
tim pool
Yep.
Yep.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Straight up.
lydia smith
Thank you for being honest.
adam crigler
So you know it's fake and you're just using it to further your anger that you're addicted to.
tim pool
We have a mutual friend.
adam crigler
Oh, do we?
I'm sure we have more than a few mutual friends, Tim.
tim pool
They posted something about one of the riot incidents, and I innocuously just gave a timeline.
I didn't say they were right, I didn't say they were wrong.
I said, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and they flipped out and started screeching, and I'm like, I didn't even say I disagreed with you!
adam crigler
I don't know if we're mutual friends anymore.
tim pool
Yeah, these people are crazy.
adam crigler
I think I know who you're talking about now.
tim pool
Probably.
Yeah.
adam crigler
I mean, I think I know exactly who you're talking about.
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
I know you know who I'm talking about.
And they post something and I'm just like, ah, so here's what happened.
How dare you post facts?
I'm like, is that what you're really mad about?
I didn't say you were wrong.
And then when people started chiming in saying, this doesn't justify anything, I'm like, never said it did?
adam crigler
I love that.
tim pool
And then I respond with, you're completely right, this guy's out of line and we should absolutely condemn this.
And then all of a sudden, their brains explode and they're like, I'm blocking you.
lydia smith
That doesn't make sense.
tim pool
I'm like, why are you mad at me?
I don't understand.
What am I supposed to say to you?
adam crigler
It's because it's an emotional trigger.
That's what happens to them.
The more you lean into logic, the more easy it is to understand the truth, to say the truth.
You don't have to remember fake stuff.
And then the facts support the truth.
And that makes it easy to talk to people about what's actually happening.
But they don't want to deal with that.
That's too much.
It's so much easier to just go, I think emotions.
tim pool
I think it's people who are unwell.
adam crigler
I you're right.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
tim pool
So crazy.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
You know, it's like growing up.
The trope was that it was the religious right that behaved this way.
lydia smith
That's because it was then.
tim pool
Yeah.
And now more.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Now it's emotional intelligence.
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting.
I have a friend who, you know, he goes to church and he was telling me, you know, he's doing this outreach program and it kind of has to do with church, but it's not.
It's just held at the church.
It's basically just like him and another bunch of dads get together and all the young boys that don't have dads go and they like talk to them and just do like a, you know, Dad program and I was like that is that is so legit like I'm not the most religious person myself But like that's some seriously amazing stuff that we need to bring to communities and it's like why are we doing that?
You know, let's bring that back.
tim pool
Did I ever tell you the story about how?
They're doing something right my opinion on Jesus changed I'm not sure. I may have done it in the early months, but I
think I'll rehash it just now because probably we have way more viewers and stuff.
But I grew up Catholic.
Okay. I left Catholic school at the end of fifth grade, went to public school in sixth grade.
Immediately just start like became very atheist. Yeah. You know, ish.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know if it is the right. Young punk team.
tim pool
Agnostic is probably a better word.
But I was totally out of all the religion stuff.
And then I started becoming very angry and arrogant about the world.
I was like 17, 18, of course.
adam crigler
Everyone has that phase.
tim pool
Yeah, I knew everything.
adam crigler
Everyone.
tim pool
And so there was this dude in Chicago who was, like, moderately well-known in the top-tier Chicago skate crew or whatever.
And I was skating at one of the parks in Chicago, and I got introduced to him.
He was a cool dude.
And there was very few people in the park, so we were skating.
We were talking.
It was me and a couple other people.
And then he was like, you know, I play music.
And he was like, yeah, me too.
He's like, you want to go jam or something, hang out?
And I was like, yeah, dude, awesome.
I'm like, now I get to hang out with these cooler, like, older guys, skateboarders, like, you know, connected and affiliated.
And we go to his apartment, and in his house, on the wall, he's got a picture of Jesus.
And I was like, I have a picture of Jesus on your wall.
And he was like, I don't know, I like it.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
Are you religious or something?
And he goes, no, I don't know, I just thought a story about a guy who travels around helping people was kind of cool.
And I went...
unidentified
Oh, you got a good point, actually.
tim pool
That's a good story.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's kind of what I was alluding to because it's like, you don't have to be religious, you don't have to believe everything that they say, but morally, they're doing a lot of things that make sense.
It's like, what's wrong with having something that shows you how to be a good human being?
tim pool
And that was it.
adam crigler
What happened to that?
tim pool
The realization was kind of like, everything that I thought the religion was, was irrelevant.
Because the only thing that mattered to this dude was that you had a story about a guy who went about helping people.
And I'm like, if that's all he took from it...
That probably made his life way better. Yeah, probably helped a lot of people
And he's right. Yeah, exactly. That was a cool story I think because of the politics of of everything and the
church and how money was handled and stuff like that It became a very political and corrupt thing to me and I
never actually thought about What the the root of what it was supposed to be was yeah, i'm
still not religious or anything But I think you know from that that moment there was there
were some other key moments in my life where it made me like
rethink things And with that one, I was like, you know, there are some people who are very much into reading hardline, like, here's what it says, here's what must be done.
adam crigler
And this is exactly what it means.
No questions asked.
tim pool
I think from that point on, I was like, That is a cool story.
That's the only thing I care to take away from any of it right now.
That I can straight up be like, if you just tell it like this, like this dude went around helping people, healing people, feeding people, like, you can ignore all the bad stuff and just say, let's try and be good people.
Let's try and help people, you know?
There are some other moments, too, about perception and reality that I found really interesting that I think a lot of people don't understand.
When I was working at O'Hare Airport, I had one of these older guys.
He was a Hispanic dude, very religious guys.
And he was like, one day, this dude goes, hey, pool!
And I look up, I'm like, yeah, what's up?
I think I was playing on, like, Snake on my Nokia candy bar.
He's like, you religious at all?
And I was like, nah.
So this is after, because now I was, like, 19, I think.
And I was like, no, I was like, I grew up, but I'm not, I'm not, you know, I don't follow anything.
And then he's like, let me ask you some questions.
We had a conversation and the gist of it was basically, you know, uh, he says, what are you breathing right now?
And I was like, air.
And he was like, yeah, yeah.
But what is it?
And I'm me being, you know, all smart about it.
I'm like, Hmm, you want to talk about the composition of air?
Well, we got, it's actually mostly nitrogen and a small portion around 21% or so is, is, is oxygen.
And of course come to accident.
And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, dude.
He read your books, right?
And I was like, yeah.
And he goes, how do you know that it's actually oxygen, nitrogen, whatever?
And I was like, we learned it in science class, man.
I went to school.
And he's like, and you just believe what's in those books.
And I was like, yeah, because it's science.
And he was like, all right.
So you got somebody who told you to read this book.
That's the truth.
And I was like, right.
And he goes, yeah, that's what my priest said about the Bible.
And I started laughing and I'm like, I get what you're saying, dude.
I hear you.
His perspective was basically like, we all choose who we trust and who's giving us the hard facts.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now for me, I'm like, I can actually build a computer.
So I'll take my, you know, I'll trust in the root of my science and stuff like that.
I'll believe in the oxygen.
But it's a good point about, you know, I've never seen an oxygen.
I've never seen an electron.
I've never actually used an electron microscope.
I've never actually Tracked any of this stuff down?
adam crigler
Right.
Supposedly, there's no such thing as solids, even though this wood feels pretty solid, but technically... It's a bunch of atoms and they're really, really tightly wound together.
tim pool
So I'm not saying this to try and tell anybody that this proves or disproves anything.
I'm just telling you this is because it's a way to understand how people's perspectives are shaped based on what they choose and who they choose to trust.
And ultimately, it's who you choose to trust.
If a dude came out of the sky, floating, and he gave a cell phone to you, and he said, here's how it works.
The magic of my love will transmit any of your thoughts to anyone else who has my love.
You saw a dude flying, you'd be like, wow, okay.
If you're a primitive or ancient culture or whatever, and you saw this happen, you would just believe them.
adam crigler
Like, basically what the Anunnaki are supposedly.
tim pool
I love energy!
Transmits thoughts and feelings.
And then if you would just be like, this person clearly has some kind of power I don't understand.
adam crigler
Yeah, it must be true.
tim pool
You might not necessarily just absolutely trust them, but you'd probably believe it, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so if you get like a PhD physicist who comes out and says, did you know that you can take your hand and you can actually hit molten steel?
You know that?
adam crigler
Yeah, I've seen it.
tim pool
Yeah, you actually can do that.
Most people are going to be like, that's crazy.
You can't do that.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Until they see the video of the guy doing it.
tim pool
Right.
So there are certain things you are willing to trust based on how you've, you know, perceived the world and stuff like that.
And so that's why you have, you know, I can wrap this back up into the insanity of the woke left.
As more and more of our media, our advertising, and our social media is dominated by this ideology, it's becoming law.
It is becoming reality.
And then they tell you, you can see racism in everything and everywhere, and people will just eat it all up.
That's all they see.
And it's scary because then they become rage monsters.
They're always angry.
They're always just fervent, zealous fanatics.
And they go and attack people.
They break into people's private property.
They try to burn buildings down.
Just because they choose to believe this fringe, you know, nonsense.
Critical thinking skills, man.
adam crigler
I see a lot of random people saying, well, this is what happens when you get rid of insane asylums.
And it's like, I want to just be like, nah.
lydia smith
That can't be it, right?
adam crigler
Maybe?
Yeah.
I'm just kidding.
It's interesting though.
Why did we get rid of insane asylums?
Yeah, I don't know.
Isn't jail supposed to be rehabilitation?
Isn't that what it's supposed to be?
tim pool
I don't think so.
adam crigler
What?
No?
No.
tim pool
Penitentiary.
Penitent.
adam crigler
It's about paying for your crimes.
tim pool
So it's not about healing you or fixing you.
It's not even about retribution.
It's about you suffering because you made others suffer.
I think that's the root.
I think we need to reshape it.
We need it to be more of fixing people.
I think Scandinavian countries aim for that.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what they do out there.
tim pool
But they go a little too far in one direction.
adam crigler
Well, it's difficult because there's, you know, most of those Scandinavian countries, they're 9 million people per country.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
You know, we're over 340.
tim pool
Culturally homogenous.
adam crigler
Just totally different.
tim pool
Culturally and ethnically homogenous.
adam crigler
For the most part, yeah.
tim pool
The interesting thing about the ethnic homogeneity is that if, you know, to these people who believe all this racism is everywhere, then by that logic, the racism doesn't exist in countries that are ethnically homogenous, be it China, Japan, Sweden, or otherwise.
And I was actually talking to a progressive friend of mine who straight up, it was a good conversation.
And she brought that up.
She was like, when you look at really big cities in countries like Japan and, you know, and even authoritarian places like China, for obvious reasons, China has, you know, less crime and less issues.
But there there aren't accusations of racism because literally they're all Japanese right there's probably
accusations of other bias like religious bias and stuff So quite literally we have racist racism is unique to
adam crigler
multicultural societies You know I think another issue is is like movies and TV and
shows and stories Because you think about it's like every story's got to have
that that a-hole that's gonna make you feel like you know You're not worthless to push the story along and every
single story you watch. There's that the there's some movies that have racist
I mean some are historical movies But for the most part every movie you see the main
character is getting belittled Whatever has a fight through then most people are seeing
all these and going this is what real life is like Obviously, there's these people everywhere, and you look similar to that antagonist, I guess.
tim pool
I don't think people understand how much our desires are shaped by fiction.
I grew up seeing all these superheroes, and we talked about this before.
Like, the characters that inspire me are very... Like, in a lot of anime shows, the characters are always getting stronger through desperation.
Like, the more desperate and the more dire the situation is, the more they strive to sacrifice everything to be the best, to save the ones they love.
And I've always been inspired by that.
And it's fiction.
You're never gonna be, you know, Superman.
You're never gonna be a superhero.
adam crigler
But everybody wants to be, though.
tim pool
And right, right.
And even outside of the realm of, like, hard science fiction and fantasy, you're never going to be John McClane.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
You're not going to be a dude at Nakatomo Plaza yelling, Yippee-ki-yay, because some terrorists took over.
adam crigler
You're not— Welcome to the party, pal.
tim pool
You are not going to be this action star adventure hero.
No.
And, you know, to speak more to the female perspective, someone— I was reading once about the power dynamics of woman-centric movies versus male-centric movies.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And what they said was, and this may not be true, male movies, movies targeting men, are about a man who saves the day, who sacrifices everything and strives to save the ones he loves.
Movies for women are about women who constantly make mistakes and do whatever they want and are praised for it.
So you look at like romantic comedies where the woman is like bumbling around and she's like a lawyer or whatever and then ultimately she gets the guy at the end.
It's always very, you know, hopey dopey silly, you know, misadventures.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So it's like you do your thing and everyone loves you versus the, you don't, you agree or?
adam crigler
No, no, I see, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
tim pool
And so that's, yeah.
So, so, so the more we create movies that go in this direction, the more we're shaping our expectations for reality off of things that aren't real.
adam crigler
Yeah, now we got the SJWs that are taking over Hollywood.
2016 Ghostbusters, Bird of Prey.
Bird of Prey is a great example right now.
I don't know if you've seen it or not.
If you haven't seen it, don't.
Good for you.
tim pool
I'm really jealous.
adam crigler
Don't do it.
Pirates of the Caribbean.
Yeah, the new Pirates of the Caribbean.
Birds of the Caribbean.
No, but that movie, she's just bumbling around talking about how the man's got her down.
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
Her boyfriend dumped her.
adam crigler
Her boyfriend dumped her.
She's upset.
lydia smith
It's true.
adam crigler
By the end.
I mean, she doesn't even get everything.
They go off, do their thing.
And she's just like, I got my egg sandwich.
So she got her egg sandwich.
tim pool
Seriously.
Birds of Prey.
Her boyfriend dumps her.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And she's sad.
So she wants to get an egg sandwich.
She drops it.
And everything goes crazy.
And then she's fighting people for some reason.
adam crigler
No, because she voted for Bernie.
tim pool
She voted for Bernie.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
And the bad guy hates her because she's a woman.
adam crigler
Because she's a woman.
lydia smith
How could I forget?
tim pool
So the thing about this is that it's starting to mix male and female power dynamics.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Which I'm not going to pretend that any of the stuff I read is like 100% factual.
It's just like an observation someone pointed out.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But I do find it interesting that the movies that women typically see or I'm not super familiar with what movies women typically see would be.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I can tell you Fifty Shades of Grey was like the most, you know, biggest selling book for women.
adam crigler
I haven't seen it, but.
tim pool
So there clearly is something different between what men and women want in terms of their, you know, power fantasies.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But Birds of Prey is a mishmash.
And so is like Captain Marvel, for instance.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like you're creating stories that are attempting to talk to the female experience through a male adventure story structure.
adam crigler
You know who did it right?
Wonder Woman.
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
Wonder Woman did that right.
They showed a perspective, you know, in the past Where it was more prevalent, you know, that men were better than women.
It's like, okay, so they showed that, and then she came, she showed her power, and everyone was like, dang!
tim pool
But actually, what was interesting about Wonder Woman is that her whole thing was, she could save everyone, and she could stop all of the fighting between everyone.
It wasn't even necessarily about, like, I'm gonna save my family, it was, I want both sides to stop fighting each other, and the only way to do it is to stop Ares.
And then you had Chris Pine, I think is the actress' name, who's a realist saying, sometimes people fight.
And it was a really interesting, she was very powerful.
I loved that.
Yeah, it was great.
I thought one of them was fantastic.
adam crigler
Yeah, really good movie.
tim pool
Really liked it.
But I think to be fair, Wonder Woman is a good example of how these movies have been done with female leads.
Like Hunger Games, for instance.
Hunger Games was great.
Four movies and the main character is female and there's no issues.
I think it's when they try injecting this... I can't put my finger, to be honest, other than they just have bad writing.
adam crigler
Well, no, it's it's kind of like a cycle, right?
So we've talked about kind of how, you know, the story has been showing people what,
what reality is, even though it's not, it's a story, you know, and they need antagonists
to antagonize the protagonist to make the story happen.
So now people are starting to get influenced by that, thinking that's what reality is.
So then that person writes a new movie, right?
And that new movie is skewed from that perspective they have of what reality is.
So they're like, well, I need to make it grandiose.
I need to make it a story.
So they are like, all right, well, how can I spin this so that it's a little bit more in tune with, you know, like a story and then boom, more SJW.
And then it's like a cycle and just gets more and more crazy.
And now we're here.
Now we have Birds of Prey, which was so cringey.
Lydia, you're the woman in the room here.
How cringey was that movie?
lydia smith
It was ridiculous.
It was too much.
Like, way over the top.
I did not enjoy it.
adam crigler
Did you feel empowered by that movie?
lydia smith
No!
It was degrading.
It was like, I'm being pandered to because I'm a woman.
That's great.
I really, really appreciate that.
adam crigler
Thank you.
lydia smith
That's my favorite thing.
tim pool
I figured it out.
lydia smith
Oh, Tim figured it out.
tim pool
We're in a simulation.
adam crigler
Is that it?
Is this the final proof?
tim pool
So we needed the first thing.
The first thing is the joke that I like making is it's some, you know, 20 year old college college kids home for the holidays.
He's playing a game of Sim Earth and he gets up to go to the bathroom.
He walks back in his little his kid brother, Billy, is mashing the keys.
And he's like, Billy, what are you doing?
unidentified
I'm in the middle of a game.
tim pool
Oh, no.
And then he looks up at the screen.
Oh, now Donald Trump is president.
unidentified
How am I?
tim pool
How do I undo this?
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
Now the game's all broken.
And I gotta fix my headphones.
lydia smith
Oh.
adam crigler
Oh, that's alright.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
unidentified
Oh, wait.
adam crigler
You know what?
Take this time to smash the like button!
lydia smith
That's right!
adam crigler
Smash it!
lydia smith
Destroy it like Tim did his headphones.
tim pool
Ooh, yeah!
But in seriousness about the simulation thing, what's interesting is, you know, I was thinking about what you were saying, and it's like, man, it really does feel like a weird experiment.
Like, let's make a bunch of weird movies that don't fit any cultural expectations.
Literally say that with like you know the last Jedi. We're gonna. We're gonna you know subvert your expectations like
yeah It's made a bad movie. Yeah, but it's like we're having
adam crigler
this weird. There's no such thing you bigot It wasn't a bad movie. You just don't understand Tim
tim pool
It was it was not very good I don't understand why they can't just write a good story.
adam crigler
How about write a new movie?
Write a new story?
Do you see they're redoing the Princess Bride now?
lydia smith
How dare they!
adam crigler
We need to revolt and make them stop that.
Because Princess Bride is perfect!
lydia smith
Don't change a thing.
adam crigler
Don't touch it!
Don't do it!
tim pool
You're gonna ruin it!
The Princess Bride has its problems.
lydia smith
Sure.
adam crigler
But it's like... It's incredible.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
For when it was made.
When does that movie come out?
tim pool
96 or something?
adam crigler
As a random guess.
tim pool
I have no idea.
You ever find a band you really like?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And they're like not that famous.
But then like because people start finding out about them a few years later they're really famous.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then also their music becomes very plastic.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Jose Gonzalez.
tim pool
Is that somebody?
adam crigler
Oh no.
His music has only gotten better though.
I knew him before he got really big.
You don't know who he is?
No.
Okay, so I guess he's not.
Well, he's amazing, so if you don't know who he is, you should check him out.
tim pool
There's so many bands where I've been like, man, their first album is so good.
unidentified
And then once they get super famous, they popped.
tim pool
Uh, that's a whole other complicated thing, man.
adam crigler
Is it?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Sure.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Why?
Haley, the singer, got divorced and then, like, became Sabrina Rexach or something.
lydia smith
To me, that became very plastic.
tim pool
I don't know what was going on there.
lydia smith
The music?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
It became very formulaic.
It just sounded like everybody else to me.
And I don't know or really care about my singer's personal well-being.
I mean, I'm sorry, but... Whoa!
tim pool
That's not what I was... Paramore doesn't count.
adam crigler
I don't care if you're healthy.
lydia smith
Paramore doesn't count.
tim pool
Paramore absolutely does not fit this.
They've always been a Capitol Records mainstream, high-profile, produced band.
adam crigler
Oh, right out the gates, you mean.
tim pool
Right out the gates.
But I like Paramore.
I like their older stuff when I was younger.
adam crigler
So what are you talking about?
Give us some examples.
tim pool
The Shins.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
The Shins.
I want to avoid actually calling out any of these bands, because I know some of them, and I don't want to get anybody angry.
That's my job.
The Shins is probably not the best example, but their earlier stuff was much less produced.
And then once they started getting famous, their albums became very, very produced.
And it was over the top.
And then the singer from that started Broken Bells, I think the band is, or whatever the group.
Anyway, the point is, there's a lot of people who, once they reach that plateau of success, then everything becomes formulaic and plastic.
I forgot why we were going off on this tangent, because we just kind of...
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, I feel like we can start talking about music in general because it's like that's like a whole nother subject.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know, it's like they get so disconnected.
Well, I guess it's not just music.
It's it's celebrities in general.
They get disconnected from reality.
Yeah.
I was just going to say regular life that isn't in a little bubble of you can have anything you want, do anything you want.
You you've made it.
You're rich now because you're a famous person and you could do anything, but you forget what it's like to struggle.
and actually that's kind of us as humanity we forgot what it's like to actually struggle like you used to have to wake up every day and hunt all day long or else you died yep yeah that's what being a human was actually that's what being an animal on this planet is unless you're a human now Or a rabbit.
tim pool
You wake up, you shake with anxiety like a ball of tension, with your eyes pointing literally in opposite directions, and you eat grass while you're in fear for your life.
adam crigler
The rabbit's even a worse situation because they have to wake up and get food.
Well, they're hunting vegetables.
Whatever.
They're still hunting the good grass.
But they add on to it.
They got a fear that they're being hunted and they will get eaten.
tim pool
That's what I mean.
Their eyes are literally bugging out both sides of their head and they're shaking like terrified at any moment.
adam crigler
But, I mean, that's not necessarily that far from the truth because humans in the past, if you're out hunting food and you find food, there's other humans that probably want to just kill you and take your food.
It's the same thing.
What's the difference?
tim pool
You know what's sad to me?
Like, you know, we play games like Magic the Gathering and stuff, and like, what we used to.
We don't play as much now because Magic's gone insane for the most part.
But, you know, I'm thinking about, like, how do we have these legends of goblins and ogres?
And it really just was, like—actually, let me stop and do this.
There was an exam—the first time someone drew a picture of an elephant, Sent it back to Europe right they were like it was a wet
It was like they described it and then someone drew a picture based on the description right and it looks weird
Mm-hmm the first time I sent a platypus back. They were like they thought it was a joke this thing
I think it was real so I imagine like you know way way way way back in the day
You're out for a hunt and then you see an animal no one's ever seen before because you've been traveling far
And there's this big like let's say there's like a brat a grizzly bear, but it's got mange or something
You know I don't know if grizzly bears get mange, but it's like it's hairs falling out
Why wouldn't they and so it's this weird scarred up looking monster going?
Terrifying and then you go and explain it. I don't know what it was it was an ogre
And now the legend is born of this big, gigantic monster.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so we literally have these legends born out of just the ignorance of humanity.
And we didn't know what we were finding.
We didn't know what we were experiencing.
It's sad to me that we've lost that.
I mean, it's kind of stupid to be sad about that, that we've become, as a species, relatively smart to where we're not surprised, for the most part, by critters and creatures.
adam crigler
Well, we have science now that shows what it all is from and what it means and why it is.
tim pool
But the adventure's gone.
adam crigler
You know, like the... That's why space, the final frontier.
tim pool
And then the only problem now is that mystery will always be gone because we have cameras.
Maybe not always because maybe there's going to be things that maybe we experience weird energy life forms can be captured on camera or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But gone are the days where you like tell a grand tale and people try to imagine to figure out what it was and then go on this great journey to try and figure out what, you know, risking life and limb.
adam crigler
Hold on, let me cherish this.
You're wrong.
About what?
Hold on.
I felt really good.
No, music.
You yourself, Tim, have shown me that you can tell a story.
And musically.
tim pool
That's not what I'm talking about.
adam crigler
Will of the people.
What are you talking about?
tim pool
I'm talking about legends and monsters that will never will never have new legends of new monsters, new vampires.
It's not going to happen.
adam crigler
I don't know if that's necessarily true.
You know, like there's people out there that are like creating new stuff and doing it on their own.
tim pool
What I'm talking about is... The legends.
Bigfoot.
adam crigler
Where the legends come from.
tim pool
People believed in Bigfoot 20 years ago.
We just gotta find him.
Now it's like, please dude, there's no Bigfoot.
Everybody's got a camera.
adam crigler
What about flat earthers?
tim pool
That's true.
These people are nuts.
adam crigler
Well, okay.
tim pool
Look, it's not fair.
adam crigler
It's still something that they're imagining, they're thinking that is true.
It's a legend to them now.
tim pool
That's not what I mean though.
What I mean is a regular person goes into the woods and sees, you know, a fox that's
got no hair.
And then he tells the legend of the chupacabra.
It's like this weird grotesque looking hairless monster creature.
And then everyone writes stories about it and people go on journeys to try and figure out what it was and they discover things.
A lot of that is being lost.
Technology is displaced.
The legend building of humanity.
We have games based on characters and ideas and zombies and goblins off of things that are easily explainable.
But we now have these fun stories that just aren't real.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So we might make things up story wise you know.
adam crigler
I saw a lightbulb just appear above Lydia's head.
lydia smith
Yeah, I just had a lightbulb moment because I think this is why horror movies are so bad.
But we don't stop making them.
adam crigler
They're so bad.
lydia smith
Almost all of them are awful, but we won't stop making them because we're looking for adventures and mystery and there's just nothing left.
tim pool
I think horror movies are bad because the horror movies just recycle the same plot.
adam crigler
No, some horror movies are good.
unidentified
Us?
adam crigler
Have you seen that one?
tim pool
No.
lydia smith
The Jordan Peele thing.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was good.
I do not like horror movies.
Not that I get scared, but it's very, very rare that a movie scares me.
They're just not good.
They're not suspenseful.
Who made Aliens?
I forget.
He said you don't show the monster.
You need to build the suspense.
You gotta have it like The Shining.
That was the first movie I remember like, oh, this is chilly.
But he was great at pulling the tension and making it thick in the air.
And he tortured the actors.
tim pool
You know why I didn't see the movie Us?
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
Because when I was reading about what it was, the trailers looked cool.
They explained the movie is actually about social justice.
adam crigler
Oh goodness.
tim pool
And I was like, what?
And then I read the plot.
I read their breakdown of what the story was about and I was like, I'm not interested in watching that.
Maybe it's a good horror movie, so maybe I should check it out.
adam crigler
I thought it was good.
I thought they did a good job with it.
I didn't go in with some preconceived notion about it though.
tim pool
Maybe they spoiled it for me by doing that.
So I guess the idea for the movie is that, this is what I read, and apparently this is part of the official theme of the film, that you have families who grow up in poverty, who finally find a way to get out, but then sabotage themselves and find themselves back where they started, like crabs in a barrel.
adam crigler
No, that's not accurate.
tim pool
I'm probably messing up what the review actually said.
adam crigler
I think you should watch it.
I think you might be pleasantly surprised.
Thinking back, it's been a while since I've seen it.
tim pool
Jordan Peele's stuff has been so cringe.
adam crigler
A lot of what's going on in here has changed over the past six months.
I don't know.
If I'd watch it again, I'd be like, what is going on?
What is this?
tim pool
It's not, it's not so much about what's actually, like, it's probably subtext, right?
unidentified
Maybe, yeah.
tim pool
But, you know, and maybe this is, maybe it's because they're trying to convince the woke cultists to watch it.
Like, oh, it's actually about these things.
You'll watch it.
And my thing's always just like, you know what, man?
Like, The Last Jedi was so bad.
I really can't stomach turning it on.
adam crigler
It wasn't good.
I wouldn't say it was that bad.
I think it was right in the middle.
No, I would give it like a 6 on IMDB.
tim pool
It looked good, the trailers looked good.
adam crigler
Yeah, the fights were cool.
But I just feel like... Lightsaber battles are awesome.
tim pool
I'm so... Man, I'm so jaded on so many movies because I've gone to see... I'll tell you what, I wanted to walk out of the theater for The Last Jedi.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
That wasn't about being a woke movie for me either.
I thought it was just really awful.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And you have these weirdo people like Rian Johnson who are like...
Let's throw things in the fire and it'll be funny for us.
adam crigler
No, the story was the best.
I agree with you there.
And they should have done... Palpatine should not have been back.
unidentified
It was like a real far stretch.
adam crigler
Spoiler!
Oh, sorry.
Spoilers?
tim pool
I don't care.
It was in the commercials.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, it was awful.
adam crigler
Oh, good.
tim pool
You know what this is?
Actually, I can explain this.
I did a video about this a while ago, and actually, Paul Joseph Watson did too.
It's cultural stagnation.
So think about this.
When was the last time a Christmas song was written?
adam crigler
Oh gosh.
Actually, I talked about this with someone, and there's this Christmas song that's relatively newer-ish.
Four years ago it was written.
tim pool
And it's played every year.
adam crigler
No, it's played all the time.
At first I was like, what is this?
This isn't a Christmas song.
And then by the end of Christmas I was singing along to it.
tim pool
I don't remember.
adam crigler
I don't want it in my head.
tim pool
I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus, Jingle Bell Rock, Baby It's Cold Outside.
Is that a Christmas song?
Yeah, Jingle Bells.
lydia smith
Is Jingle Bells new?
tim pool
No, it's relatively newer compared to- A bunch of songs are written in the, what, 40s and 50s?
And we've played them every year non-stop, over and over and over again.
Movies are now adaptations of adaptations, and reboots of adaptations, and comics.
Like, look at Groundhog Day.
Original concept.
Now it's like, we just remake the same concept, but throw aliens in it and you get Edge of Tomorrow.
adam crigler
I don't think that's necessarily true.
I write new music.
You write new music.
You know, it's like, look at Wes Anderson, for example.
One of my favorite, you know, filmmakers.
He's so unique.
He creates an atmosphere.
It's his own style.
It's his own thing.
It's beautiful.
It's awesome.
All of his movies, I'm just like, A+.
tim pool
Most?
adam crigler
Good job, Wes.
tim pool
I think it's something like 90 plus percent of the movies of the past decade have been reboots, remakes, and adaptations.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Not original at all.
adam crigler
Yeah, but it's because money.
There's more money.
It's easier to just take a story, redo it, make more money.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
Cultural stagnation.
Look, have you listened to the radio in Chicago?
adam crigler
There's truth in what you're saying, and you're also not right at the same time.
Because there are still people, you included, that are making new music.
tim pool
But that's not what I'm talking about.
adam crigler
Okay, what are you talking about?
tim pool
I'm talking about, we used to have an industry where the best of the best song was a brand new song for Christmas.
And it was like, this is the number one gold record, just came out, listen to this song.
And then we played it every year, non-stop, and we've never, we've never, so the principal song played over the years, like, here are the songs you play.
So, when it comes to movies, we used to have a movie industry, Groundhog Day.
Remember, we'd just watch the movie Stay Tuned last night.
What a weird movie, right?
Where they get sucked in the TV.
adam crigler
It got me laughing, actually.
It was pretty funny, John Ritter.
tim pool
When was the last time a movie like that came out in theaters?
adam crigler
Like a weird wonky movie?
tim pool
They don't do it.
There are adaptations, there are reboots, there's remakes.
So, the core, like, cultural thing we do, yes, of course, there's always going to be indie creators and artists and unique things, and some things will fail and some things will succeed, but the core industry has now become plastic, homogenized, culturally stagnant.
adam crigler
Well, I can't argue with that.
Music in general is basically like that, you know?
I mean, there is some good music still, but a lot of it, like the top hits, I'm just like, what is this?
It's the same line over and over and over again, the entire song.
You're not saying anything.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
Have you seen the viral videos of where they combine the top country songs?
adam crigler
And it's all the same chords over and over again?
tim pool
It's like they overlap all the songs together and it just works.
adam crigler
Oh, at the same time.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Not like it's one song next, sing the next one.
It's the same chords.
It's like the same all over each other.
I have to see this.
tim pool
That's pretty crazy.
There's another funny bit where they like isolate the lyrics and they're like, my dog, my pickup truck with a beer coming home from work, my girl or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, this is pop country, but it's not, it's I'm picking on country, but it's true for all pop music.
It's just, you know, all you know, that, you know, the computers write the songs.
adam crigler
That's why we gotta put our music out there, man.
The people need us.
They need our music, Tim.
tim pool
It's the will of the people.
Think about Led Zeppelin.
adam crigler
Amazing music.
tim pool
Or Queen.
Their songs are all very different.
Now look at modern music.
adam crigler
I mean, Robert Plant's still making music.
His solo stuff is amazing.
And he's still putting out good stuff.
tim pool
But look at modern music.
It's like a band will write one song 20 times.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
There's very few bands that actually pull it off.
adam crigler
I'm just like thinking about Sublime.
I'm like, but they did it so well!
tim pool
And they were only around for like one album though.
adam crigler
Well, because he died.
tim pool
Like a cover album.
Exactly.
Like, you know, as much as I really do like Muse, a lot of their music is very much, very, very similar.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, we, when I drove here four months ago with my stuff, I, we did like the, the Muse anthology.
We listened to all the Muse stuff.
And I was like, man, I really like Muse, but a lot of their songs are the same thing.
He'll say one word and just, you know, carry it like a roller coaster.
Which is great.
Don't get me wrong.
I love Muse.
Muse is amazing.
I saw them at Madison Square Garden.
Incredible.
Incredible musicians.
I can't believe there's only three of them.
I had no idea.
But a lot of their stuff is the same.
They have a sound.
They sell it well.
There's nothing wrong with it.
tim pool
I love you, but the government is taking over.
That's Muse.
And quite literally, I think it's the song Bliss.
Everything about you is so easy to love.
They're watching you from above.
lydia smith
My favorite Muse line.
adam crigler
Wow!
tim pool
That encompasses everything about the band.
Hit it out of the park with that one.
adam crigler
Nailed it.
tim pool
But very few bands and artists, you know what I think it might be too, is a lot of these producers who write songs that have a good eclectic style will sell them.
So you don't actually know who the person writing it is.
adam crigler
You know who's a good band?
tim pool
Who's a good band?
adam crigler
Tool.
lydia smith
Tool's a pretty good band.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa.
No, no, no.
Not pretty good.
I haven't been as exposed to them as you have.
tim pool
I think the greatest artists of this or any generation is probably Insane Clown Posse.
Probably, yes.
adam crigler
The smile that instantly appeared on your face made me think that you weren't serious there.
tim pool
But I'm not actually trying, I'm not saying they're bad.
No, I was just, I thought it would be absurd to try and assert ICP.
Although a lot of people really do think they are really good.
The one song I know from them is Halls of Illusion.
I actually like that song.
adam crigler
I can't name any song of theirs.
Not one.
tim pool
Because I guess their time was the 90s.
adam crigler
That's where I grew up with music.
I was a teenager in the 90s.
Led Zeppelin.
That's who I was listening to.
Sublime.
Nirvana.
Pearl Jam.
tim pool
Halls of Illusion is a good song.
By ICP.
It's basically about the fake reality of TV with a smiling wife, but in reality it's drug addicts, it's poor people, and it's kind of over the top.
But I think it's cool.
It's 90s rap-pop, whatever you want to call it.
I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about ICP.
I thought it would be funny to say that.
But I know there's a lot of really diehard fans, so I'm not trying to be too much of a dick.
You know, I guess you can like what you want to like.
This is America.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
How about we do this?
Look, so the point I was gonna make earlier about the simulation stuff is just this idea that, like, so much weird stuff has been happening that it feels like it has to be a conspiracy.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
Like, how is this possible that all these weird things are going on?
lydia smith
Too much at once.
adam crigler
And now... It does feel like there's some sort of... Aliens.
unidentified
Aliens.
adam crigler
Some sort of something driving everything.
tim pool
Aliens.
adam crigler
Is it aliens?
tim pool
Check this out.
adam crigler
Let's talk about it.
tim pool
Senate Intelligence Committee confirms the U.S.
Navy has a UFO task force.
adam crigler
My question here, right off the bat, is wouldn't it have been the Air Force?
I'm already suspect.
tim pool
I heard this like, kind of, sort of joke.
Do you know who has the biggest Air Force in the world?
adam crigler
The Navy?
tim pool
The U.S.
Air Force.
The United States.
You know who has the second biggest air force in the world?
adam crigler
The Navy?
tim pool
The US Navy.
So like, our military man. Wow.
adam crigler
I thought the first one was a trick.
I was like, I got this trick to him.
tim pool
That's the trick though, right? You say like, do you know who has the biggest air force?
They'll be like, America, that's right. Do you know who has the second biggest?
The US Navy.
So we're the air force, then the navy? I don't know if that's true or whatever.
lydia smith
Maybe you're wrong with, yeah.
tim pool
My understanding is the army has more boats than the navy too.
lydia smith
That's crazy.
adam crigler
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
Because I could be wrong about this.
I'm sure the people who are listening know better.
But the Army has a ton of boats.
They just don't have big destroyers and stuff like that.
But they do have a lot of boats.
adam crigler
So like lake boats and river boats.
tim pool
They probably got some big boats.
adam crigler
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
Like cargo ships and stuff.
Different branches, man.
adam crigler
Gotta move that.
tim pool
Space boats.
How many boats does the Space Force have?
lydia smith
Many, I hope.
adam crigler
I'm sure they've got a bunch.
tim pool
Probably got some boats.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
They probably have the third most amount of airplanes.
tim pool
All right, check this out.
So listen, because it's 2020 and everybody is saying like, what's next?
Aliens?
And then we have these two actual major sightings.
Check this out.
Where are we at?
Here we go.
Mysterious lights spotted flashing in Houston sky leave onlookers startled because they move too fast to be drones or fire lanterns.
A string of strange lights were seen floating around each other in the sky over Houston on Wednesday night.
This is a couple days ago, mind you.
Check this out.
UFO sighting in Miami sparks social media meltdown.
This other video, I don't know where it's from, shows weird vortexes lined up in the sky.
adam crigler
Yeah, I want to see that one.
tim pool
I actually have it on my phone.
I probably should have texted it or something.
adam crigler
I actually have a buddy who lives in New York who has sent me... He takes videos.
And he sent me some videos of objects that he saw.
unidentified
Weird.
adam crigler
Aliens.
It doesn't make any sense.
He's like, I don't understand what this is.
And it's not only that, it's been going on for...
Over two years, this has been happening to him.
He's been showing me these videos, he's like, I was, he like came, he was coming over, we were gonna play Magic, and he's like, dude, look at this, this was just outside, walking down your street.
And I'm like, looking at it, I'm like, what is it?
It doesn't make any sense.
I don't understand, they're popping up everywhere.
tim pool
You know what they are?
adam crigler
What is happening?
tim pool
It's the camera objects for the third person video game.
And so you can see them, and you're like, what is that?
And what you don't see is like the little guy flying around like, you know, and he's got the cameras.
You can't see the camera because it's your perspective.
adam crigler
Or maybe it's like the cursor for the mouse for whoever's playing the game.
We're just like, what is that?
tim pool
They're dragging objects.
adam crigler
And then he comes down and picks you up.
You're like, ah!
tim pool
When you're getting abducted, you're not getting brought into a ship.
You're just getting dragged and dropped.
lydia smith
Oh no, that's exactly what's happening.
tim pool
So assuming we, uh, you know, are we in a simulation?
lydia smith
I hope so.
tim pool
Then one of the, you know, the question is what is a simulation and why would it, why would, why would you argue that it's a simulation in fact, right?
So we got these aliens.
Look, I'm not, they're not really aliens.
I don't, we don't know what they are, but you can see it.
Let me see if I can, I can play this.
It's like weird lights flying over Miami.
These weird, uh, vortexes, vortices.
lydia smith
What's the word?
tim pool
Vortices.
adam crigler
Good word.
tim pool
This is not playing.
Here we go.
Weird lights.
A video from Houston, Texas on Wednesday night appears to show a string of flickering lights in the sky moving around each other before disappearing completely.
adam crigler
Aliens.
tim pool
What could they be?
Oh, we got a video of it?
You can't really see anything.
lydia smith
Can you make it bigger?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
We got some audio.
unidentified
I don't see them moving.
That's the sky over there.
It's so weird, though.
Look at this.
What is this?
lydia smith
They're just chillin'.
adam crigler
They're not moving, though.
unidentified
I don't see anything like it.
adam crigler
For me, it looks like stars.
unidentified
It is so weird.
adam crigler
I don't see movement.
tim pool
Nah, those aren't stars, man.
unidentified
And I wish I could see it in person, because it looks quite different than on video.
tim pool
That's the other thing, too.
Hear what you just said?
adam crigler
Yeah, it looks different on video.
I wish you could see it in person.
tim pool
It's true.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
There's been a bunch of things I've seen in the sky that I'm like, whoa, I gotta film that.
And I look and I'm like, you can't get it.
lydia smith
Every time the moon is beautiful, it's like, oh, I want a picture of this.
tim pool
You can't get it.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Denied.
So what do you think it is?
adam crigler
What do I, are you asking me personally what do I think it is?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like what's your best, what was your, if you had to make a bet, if I was like, yo, we're gonna put some chips down on this.
adam crigler
I want it to be aliens.
I would love, you know, it's like you just said, like, we are stagnating as a culture, our humanity, like, what are we doing with our lives?
It's like, if aliens actually came around, we'd be like, whoa, we gotta check ourselves.
tim pool
But what if they have a really weird, creepy culture, and they want us to adhere to it?
adam crigler
That might unify us.
tim pool
What if they colonize us?
What if they already are?
What if they're like, yeah?
adam crigler
I didn't always wear a beanie all the time.
Now I just wake up with a beanie on.
tim pool
It's weird.
Or, in all seriousness, maybe humans are being, in a sense, domesticated.
adam crigler
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
So, like we talked about this before, I talked about this on the Rogan podcast a couple months ago, when I was saying I had this idea for a cool story where aliens come to Earth and offer humanity all this really great technology and knowledge.
And most humans accept it.
And then a bunch of humans resist and say, no, you know... The alphas.
Humanity must be, you know, to itself.
We must be responsible for ourselves.
We reject your weird ways.
adam crigler
The alphas.
tim pool
And then in hundreds of years, the human beings that sided with the aliens are now five feet tall, scrawny, but armored to the teeth with crazy technology that can fly.
And they desperately love the aliens now.
Because the ones that succeeded in the alien culture were the ones who loved the aliens the most, and generated favor.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And the humans that resist, who are six feet something, ripped... Yeah, they're alpha males.
They're wolves.
And so, the story quite literally is, humans raid a farm, and then an alien comes running out, and then a bunch of humans with jetpacks come out, and they're short and squeaky, and they've got crazy armor and force fields, and they're going...
And so quite literally the idea is when we have a dog go out to fight with wolves, they have spiked collars.
Because the wolves go for the neck and they can't.
And that's a technological advancement wolves don't have because the other wolves were bred into dogs and teamed up
unidentified
with us.
tim pool
So it's like the aggression is bred out of the species.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They're given advanced technologies and then they can serve the, you know, the alien species.
adam crigler
It's interesting because the SJWs is like toxic masculinity or like, you know, getting rid of the family, the classic family.
Do as you're told.
No more alpha males.
tim pool
Be obedient.
adam crigler
Controlling everything.
It's like, that's how we've gotten as far as we've gotten.
tim pool
They want you to be obedient.
They want you to be non-aggressive.
They want you to be gender neutral.
You know, I don't say they want you to be, but it's encouraged, you know, it's like, and protected.
And not that I have any, I'm not saying I have an issue with that, I'm saying it's part of like, you know, we gender neutralify our dogs.
adam crigler
You know what we gotta do?
We gotta keep these aliens confused.
tim pool
We're gonna spin the UFO so they can't figure out what's going on.
lydia smith
Yes, let's keep them real dizzy.
tim pool
Aliens!
So long story short, aliens...
Let's say, I love when I was talking to Joe about this, and I was like, you really think the Galactic Federation's gonna let us in when our planet's ruled by multiple governing bodies?
lydia smith
I'll never forget what he said.
tim pool
He's like, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
unidentified
I'm like, I know there's not!
That's the joke!
adam crigler
Like, that's what you're taking from this?
I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
tim pool
Let's say there was.
That's the joke.
It's a half joke.
The point is, if there really were aliens, they're not going to come and greet us.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Unless we're like a farm and they're, yeah, domesticating.
In a sense, you know, making us more docile and non-aggressive.
adam crigler
This is a real question.
Serious.
I'm very serious.
Do you think Hillary's an alien?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Okay, why would I think it was an alien?
adam crigler
I don't know.
I kind of do Well, no, no with what you're saying is true.
They're trying to domesticate us and like no no, they're just in league with the aliens, man Come on.
Yeah, the lizard people and the aliens are working together.
tim pool
So this is This is the joke I bring up.
The one thing I really hate about conspiracy theorists is if you're going to jump through 50 hoops to come to a conclusion, why that conclusion?
I'll tell you what, if I've got to think of all these different coincidences that add up to a story, I'll make the story way more fun.
Not lizard people, it's interdimensional.
Oh wait, Alex Jones has that one covered.
Just make it more fun.
Wizards.
It's actually Merlin and his school of wizards, frozen in time, have come back with ancient knowledge.
And if I'm going to make something up, why wouldn't I make up something crazy?
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Now we have these, I saw this post where these parents are like, so we have our six year old who we've for that our six year old's entire life have said, Harry Potter's real.
They're actually a wizard.
And we want, how do we, what can we do to like continue this on as long as we can?
We think that when, when our kid finally figures it out, it'll be better to, because they'll, they'll understand hardship.
unidentified
Jeez.
Oh my gosh!
adam crigler
It's just like, I can't, this is, this is what people are doing now.
tim pool
I mean, it's almost like Santa Claus.
adam crigler
So, but they're teaching, but, but the reason I bring that up is because what you were just saying, it's like, they're not only are they jumping to these conclusions through all these hoops, they're teaching their children this, that this is, this is fact.
And it's like, you trust your parents.
Your parents obviously are your, they're your only connection to the world.
So they're teaching kids that.
Yeah, everybody... Harry Potter's real.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
And you're a wizard.
adam crigler
And you're actually a wizard.
Their kid actually believes that it's a wizard.
tim pool
And then what happens when the world collapses and they're made fun of and they're insane for the rest of their lives?
adam crigler
They become an angry, reeing person that has no purpose and feels like the entire world's against them.
tim pool
So this is the point I was making about, you know, making up your own conspiracy.
It's like, if you're going to claim that the globalists are trying to take over, Just give them a good, fun reason.
Galactic Federation.
Boom.
If you're gonna make something up, I can make something up too, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
And so, hey, I think my theory makes more sense.
Why is it that Hillary and Biden and these architects of a global, one-world government want it to happen?
So that we can be inducted into the Galactic Federation, baby!
adam crigler
Yeah, duh!
tim pool
We got all this sweet technology, immortality, travel the stars, but we can't get it because we're too busy fighting each other.
Right.
Now, the reason that makes no sense is because, you know, they want to go to war with Russia and stuff like that.
lydia smith
Yeah, like Hillary, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so.
That's why I don't believe in any of these, you know, whatever.
I think when it comes to these mysterious lights flashing and flying around, military tech, man.
adam crigler
You think that's what it is?
tim pool
Yeah, it's just the easiest explanation.
adam crigler
It does make the most sense, you're right.
tim pool
It's, you know, we developed what was like a hundred years ago.
We made the nuke.
Was it 80 years ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess.
tim pool
So, come on, man.
What have we been working on since then?
lydia smith
Who knows?
tim pool
Just regular old commercial-grade military tech?
lydia smith
Sure, yeah.
unidentified
No way.
tim pool
There's probably undercover stuff.
lydia smith
DARPA?
tim pool
You ever see Star Trek?
Which one?
Into Darkness.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
I love those movies.
tim pool
So the Federation guy is secretly developing a massive war machine and they don't realize it.
And nobody knew.
Not even the people in Starfleet.
Why wouldn't the US government be doing something similar?
So you have a bunch of these private military contractors making crazy weapons, and I'm sure there's some companies you don't know about, you never heard of, you never will hear of, getting funding and doing crazy things.
And I know a lot of people respond with, you think the government could actually, you know, make this thing work?
lydia smith
I think the military could.
tim pool
No, I don't.
I absolutely don't.
lydia smith
You don't think the military could?
tim pool
I do not.
I think a private company kept off the books given unlimited funding can do crazy things if they have no restrictions.
lydia smith
I stand corrected.
tim pool
Yeah.
Weird experiments disregarding, you know, any safety regulations laws because, you know, they want the power.
adam crigler
I mean, they were doing MK Hulter in, what, the 70s?
The 60s and 70s?
Mind manipulation?
It's like, that was in the 70s.
That was 50 years ago.
What are they doing now?
tim pool
Have they perfected mind control?
unidentified
Manipulation?
adam crigler
Probably.
lydia smith
Maybe.
adam crigler
Look at how people are being manipulated into everything we're seeing now.
Is COVID real?
Half the people are like, I don't even believe it's real anymore.
It's just conspiracy now.
tim pool
My favorite conspiracy theory is that Trump is one of the top elites of the global architects.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And that we've got people now begging for law and order.
This is what I've been saying.
Because of all the chaos, You've got, you know, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, a lot of people were like, no police state, no government takeover, small government.
Now a lot of these people are saying like, Trump, stop the violence, stop the violence, bring in the military.
Like now you've got people who normally would never do this, begging for, you know, order, and they're cheering for Trump to do it.
So we'll see if Trump wins.
adam crigler
I see a much, much larger or louder, I should say, call for individual accountability.
And it's like we're seeing it.
People are guns are flying off the shelves.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Leftists are buying guns.
Everyone's like, well, the 2A argument's over.
And it's like, well, good.
And bad.
Well, why is it bad?
lydia smith
Because we're in a position where we need the two-way and now we have a bunch of people who aren't trained to like waving their guns around at their spouses on their front porch with their bare feet.
unidentified
Yeah, it's true.
lydia smith
That kind of troubled me a little bit.
tim pool
Yeah, a bunch of untrained people.
It's crazy because, you know, I would never claim that I'm an expert in any way on any guns and I know not to point a weapon at your wife.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
You really don't like her.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
adam crigler
Well, Trump made him do it.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's always Trump's fault.
tim pool
How about we hit up some Super Chats?
adam crigler
Before we do, I'm just gonna say, after Super Chats, we're gonna announce some winners.
We had an art competition for the past couple weeks.
We were going to do it on Friday, but because of Tim's throat, now we're going to do it tonight.
So after Super Chat, stay tuned.
You might have won a board if you submitted some art to us.
We've got some honorable mentions we'll show.
tim pool
This art is amazing.
adam crigler
There's some quality art.
We have some quality artists out there.
I'm talking to you, whoever you are.
tim pool
It feels unfair how good this art is.
This is like pro museum grade.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
There's some quality stuff, yeah.
tim pool
We gotta make a poster of some of this stuff, man.
lydia smith
I'm super impressed.
tim pool
Well, let's do this.
Let's jump over to some Super Chats, and we'll see what y'all are on about.
And so we'll just, we'll first start, we'll jump with the very early on Super Chats from when the show started.
adam crigler
What up, y'all?
tim pool
Let's see, Christo says, the Statue of Liberty is the final boss.
That's right.
Deplorable Pirate Captain Gunbeard.
What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means?
Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil?
Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?
I honestly don't know.
adam crigler
It's the question we've been asking every day of every episode.
What is the answer?
What do we do?
We're not politicians.
We're just two guys doing a podcast.
Yeah.
tim pool
Cheaters win.
adam crigler
I don't have the answer.
tim pool
We're sitting back watching the far left cheat.
Break all the rules.
adam crigler
Cheat to win.
tim pool
We're in a pandemic, they protest.
The politicians support them.
They're cheating.
And it's like, as soon as anyone on the right steps out of line, they all start screaming you're cheating.
What do you do?
I don't know, man.
adam crigler
Maybe we need to start cheating.
unidentified
No.
No.
tim pool
Because then you just create- You stoop to their level.
No, you create the world they're demanding.
Right.
So when these conservatives were saying, cancel Yale, because Ella, who we're happy to pronounce the name Yale, was a slave trader, I'm like, but they want that to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They want Yale to get canceled.
You're helping them.
adam crigler
Well, Biden's family was slave owners.
Crickets.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Crickets.
tim pool
They're cheating, because they're cheating.
adam crigler
It's like, what?
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
How does that make any sense?
Cheating.
And how are they, and you know, this whole thing is now shifting into Vote for Biden because he'll sleep in the basement, whatever they say after that.
It's like, how are you turning this Black Lives Matter into vote for Biden?
He's seriously connected to slave owners himself.
His namesake, like he's named after somebody.
It's like, wow.
And the statue is offensive.
Come on.
I'm sick of that.
tim pool
Alright, we got Two Rivers Lad says, Yo, you should check out the No Agenda podcast.
It's my anti-media counterpart to you.
They monetize without ads during the interlude of their first and second segments.
This may be a model that you could use when you get nuked from orbit for wrongthink.
Well, hopefully not, but we'll see.
Ryan Jacob says, Boogaloo Boys is what patriotic Americans call themselves who are willing to stand up to whatever threat may arise to our union, like the droves of police officers recently joining militias.
Whoa, is that true?
I didn't know that.
adam crigler
I've seen a lot of activity.
I know a few of the people I follow that have joined some militias.
Cops, though?
Some are cops, some are ex-cops, and they're ready.
That's all I'm gonna say.
tim pool
But how are they ready for what?
The boogaloo?
adam crigler
What I was saying over the past few months is like when these protesters, when these people that are... No, not necessarily the protesters, the rioters.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
I gotta stop you.
adam crigler
Oh, go on.
tim pool
You were right.
adam crigler
I can quit.
unidentified
I'm done.
adam crigler
This is it.
I'm at the highest point I'll ever be.
lydia smith
He's going to quit while he's up.
tim pool
Good plan.
You said last week that these people are going to get a rude awakening when they show up to the neighborhoods and the houses.
And then we saw this middle-aged dude and his wife come out with guns.
Came out swinging, man.
And they're going like, oh!
adam crigler
And who attacked their house?
Nobody.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
And that's not even who I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the actual militias that are are armed and know what to do with their guns. They are not
going to be holding the trigger and being like, don't come near me! Don't come near me! Hey
husband, am I doing a good job?
tim pool
Don't come near me! Have you seen This is the End? No. Oh wait, I have. When Jonah Hill has
the gun, he's going like this. Yeah. That movie's amazing.
unidentified
He's like, bang, bang, bang.
tim pool
It's so good.
And they're like, whoa, and that turns out like the blanks, I guess.
adam crigler
Yep, the militias are forming now.
They're out there, man.
They are ready to protect America.
tim pool
Yeah, but so are the left-wing ones.
adam crigler
No, I don't think so.
They're not as formed.
tim pool
That's true.
adam crigler
We're seeing it.
They have no leader.
They're agendaless.
You know, all the people that are... And genderless.
Good one.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, both.
adam crigler
No, but the militias that I'm talking about, they have one goal.
Protect America.
And they all feel that way.
They're like, this is our country.
We're going to protect this.
We're going to protect you.
We're going to protect you.
And if anyone comes at us, we're going to protect.
tim pool
And so what does this mean?
What does this mean come November when both sides declare victory?
adam crigler
We'll see.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet they're going to be like Trump.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
And no one's going to be for Biden.
adam crigler
No.
Or Hillary, rather.
tim pool
But then what happens to the 65 million people who are screaming Biden?
adam crigler
I don't think that's going to happen.
I don't know, though.
tim pool
This is the scary question about Boogaloo or Civil War or whatever.
What happens if Trump only gets 30 million votes?
I don't see that happening.
It's not about the probability of it, what happens if it does.
So you have these people who believe, truly, that the Democrats are subverting the country, selling out to China, and eroding the Constitution.
If they're in the extreme minority, what are they going to do?
Because I know what the cops are going to do.
The cops are going to be like, I'll violate the Constitution, just tell me to do it.
adam crigler
Not all the cops.
tim pool
A lot of them.
Big cities.
adam crigler
Sure.
The ones that the mainstream media that we're, I mean, we're seeing they exist, but there's plenty of cops that are probably like, this is crazy.
tim pool
Yep.
Small town cops seem to be, you know, level headed, normal.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
These big city cops are like, just tell me to violate the constitution and I will go ahead and do it.
No questions asked.
Just, just make sure I don't police my own neighborhood.
Send me to someone else's.
That's, that's, that's New York.
That's even out here in these metro areas, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I'm not.
Let's go back.
I'm done with this.
tim pool
Ron Deal says, so when is Nike going to bring out the Nike Taz?
Nike Taz.
adam crigler
What is that?
I don't know.
Nike's going down, though.
They've lost like $800 million because of their new advertisements.
tim pool
Yikes.
adam crigler
It's crazy.
tim pool
Oh, you know what you should do?
You should follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Timcast.
You can also follow at AdamKrigler on Instagram and Twitter.
adam crigler
Yep, and I always have a pinned tweet on the top of my tweet page.
You can send me stories, tell me what you want us to talk about, and yeah, I peruse them with these two lovely people before the show every day and just shout them out like, hey, what about this?
What about this?
tim pool
And you can also follow at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.
Well, let's read some more Super Chats!
Eve Welcome says, Tim, I live in a state with mail-in voting. Since Bush's second
term, my ballot doesn't get counted and I get a notice saying my
signature doesn't match. I hate mail-in voting. It's the worst. Agreed. Yeah, we
actually have on this table, you can't see it because I don't want to dox
anybody, we have an official mail-in ballot it says. Yep.
unidentified
For somebody who doesn't live here. Clearly labeled.
adam crigler
I can see it right now.
I can vouch for it.
It's actually there.
tim pool
Someone who doesn't live here and didn't request it.
And I have no idea why it arrived and why none of us got... We didn't get any.
Did you get one?
adam crigler
I didn't get one.
tim pool
Yeah, I didn't get one.
unidentified
Did you get one?
Nope.
tim pool
That's so weird!
The one person who wouldn't be able to complain if it didn't show up.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And the rest of ours didn't show up.
unidentified
I wonder... I wonder... This is so dumb, man.
adam crigler
Who wants the mail-in voting again?
tim pool
Let's see.
Nama says, As a bi, white male, I feel equally oppressed and privileged now.
Been hyped for this all weekend.
Tim, thanks for making me Pro 2A.
The world has gone mad.
Did I do that?
adam crigler
Just take it, Tim.
tim pool
Check this out.
Stephen Molyneux got banned.
YouTube banned Stephen Molyneux today.
950,000 subs.
All gone with a snap of their fingers.
Get on other platforms, everyone.
My understanding is that's because he was a proponent of I could be wrong about this, but racial IQ differences.
adam crigler
What?
Really?
tim pool
The idea that some races are inherently smarter or stupider.
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
So there's a lot of researchers who talk about this.
Okay.
And I don't know much about Stephen Molyneux at all, but I was reading an article that said him and a bunch of other people were banned because of statements made about racial superiority.
One group over another.
Something like that.
adam crigler
Well, I don't know anything about that, but I don't agree.
tim pool
He does talk about that stuff a lot.
unidentified
doesn't talk about race and i can't look at the stock about that also a lot
here's a psychology biology and stuff ego
tim pool
you to will new q at any moment retroactively to because red it's
banning people for rule violations from months ago Wow.
Yeah, that's fun, isn't it?
unidentified
Reddit.
Reddit. Yep. Andrew says child abductions in India is 98k per year and the US is near 500k per year
Yep.
tim pool
and a population differential of about a billion people for India. Why is no one talking about this?
unidentified
Nobody knows I guess? Yeah it's weird I...
adam crigler
When I was driving here, every place I would go in for food or wherever had a board of just missing people.
And it was just like all young kids.
I was like, this is messed up.
tim pool
Aliens.
unidentified
Crazy.
adam crigler
No, I don't think it's aliens.
I think it's messed up people.
tim pool
Messed up people.
I'm kidding.
I know it's not aliens.
Panda stud says keep doing your thing my man appreciate it Keegan Simmons says I took your advice Tim someone called my boss and tattled that I wasn't wearing a mask and when he asked me to go by when I told him to shove it he respected my rights and beliefs and put me on paid leave until our mask mandate in AZ is over That's amazing.
lydia smith
Worked out great.
adam crigler
Snaps!
tim pool
No, but I mean, yes.
I would wear a mask.
I don't know what the big deal is.
I don't know why this is an issue.
lydia smith
That's what he believes.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
I know, I know.
lydia smith
And it paid off for him.
tim pool
For sure, yeah.
Don't let people bully you and tell you what you have to do.
Somebody called your boss and tattled?
That's crazy, man.
adam crigler
Oh man, I'd be mad.
My mom lives and works in AZ and she She doesn't have to wear a mask at work.
I don't think she has to wear the mask, but they take everyone's like the forehead temperature gauge every day.
lydia smith
That's nice.
adam crigler
Everyone checks their temperature.
tim pool
Now they're saying COVID causes diabetes.
adam crigler
It causes it?
tim pool
Causes diabetes.
Yep.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Not kidding.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
What was the recent one they said?
Something crazy?
lydia smith
I don't remember what it was.
tim pool
It's just like every day.
lydia smith
It's a whole list of things.
adam crigler
I'm pretty sure like overconsumption of sugar is a higher chance of getting diabetes.
tim pool
No, they said COVID does something that activates, like for people who are susceptible, it triggers diabetes to act like, you know, your pancreas starts degrading.
adam crigler
I mean, that's pretty much what's been going around.
If you're not healthy, it triggers more unhealthiness.
tim pool
Simulation, dude.
We're in a simulation.
unidentified
It's plaguing.
adam crigler
That's all there is to it.
tim pool
Somebody just added diabetes to the virus.
adam crigler
Get healthy.
tim pool
Be healthy.
adam crigler
I want you all to be healthy.
Is that wrong to wish upon people?
lydia smith
No.
adam crigler
I want you to be healthy.
tim pool
It is.
Is it?
You're body shaming people.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, that's true.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I didn't say anything about someone's body.
I just want people to be healthy.
tim pool
You can be healthy at any size.
lydia smith
That's right.
Did you know that, Adam?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Okay.
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
So you're saying people should be morbidly obese?
adam crigler
No, no, you're putting those words out there, not me.
All I want, I just want people to be healthy.
tim pool
I'm playing by the mainstream.
adam crigler
I don't care what size you are.
I want you to be healthy.
unidentified
There's a subreddit called... Tim, Tim, for the record, I want you to be healthy.
tim pool
There's a subreddit called Healthy at Every Size.
And it's basically just dedicated to people who are morbidly obese talking about how they're actually healthy and their doctors are wrong.
adam crigler
All right, you know what?
We should check our resident nurse.
Hey, Lydia.
lydia smith
What's that?
adam crigler
You're the resident nurse.
You know that, right?
Is it healthy to be morbidly obese?
lydia smith
It is not.
In fact, it goes on your list of morbidities when you go into the hospital.
adam crigler
Boom!
lydia smith
Yeah, I mean, whatever.
tim pool
Is that why it's called morbidly obese?
lydia smith
Yeah, because you go and die.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Morbidly.
Are you saying that you're a bigot?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that you don't believe in body positivity?
unidentified
Smollett.
adam crigler
How dare you?
lydia smith
Not like Smollett.
tim pool
Oh, that's interesting.
A bigot and a Smollett.
lydia smith
Yeah.
There you go.
tim pool
A Smollett is someone... I've never heard that before.
lydia smith
I just made that up.
adam crigler
Oh, good.
All right.
tim pool
So wait a minute.
Interesting.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa!
tim pool
I think you just discovered something important.
unidentified
Lightbulb!
adam crigler
Lightbulb!
The beanie is actually glowing.
tim pool
A bigot is someone who would throw a noose around your neck yelling MAGA country, and a smollet is a person who would pretend that someone threw a note.
So the smollet is the victim who's lying, and the bigot is the person who doesn't.
adam crigler
I love it!
tim pool
A smollet and a bigot.
lydia smith
I like it.
tim pool
That's the point.
adam crigler
Oh, that's pretty- that's gold right there.
lydia smith
I'll take it.
adam crigler
We made some gold.
tim pool
But like, whenever someone now hoaxes a hate crime, people call him Smollett.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
It's true.
lydia smith
A Smollett.
adam crigler
A bigot.
I mean, it's obnoxious what he did, so.
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Where are we at?
Where are we at?
Let's see.
We got some Super Chats.
We got too many Super Chats.
adam crigler
Never.
There's no such thing.
Don't listen to Tim.
You know he's not always right.
lydia smith
Every single one of them.
adam crigler
I'm here to call him out on it if I can.
tim pool
Mr. Scratch says, Tim, you asked why no one writes good movies anymore.
It's because movies are written by people who constantly have to pass scripts back to an approved focus panel.
It's then stripped of everything unique and thought-provoking for broad market appeal.
Well, there you go.
adam crigler
That makes sense.
That does make sense.
Release the Snyder Cut.
tim pool
Maximum Weeb says, watch Portrait of a Lady on Fire on Hulu.
Last movie I saw in theaters before lockdown.
So beautiful.
I was glad I saw it before I thought millions were going to die.
You won't be disappointed.
So gorgeous.
We will.
I will check that out.
adam crigler
All right.
I heard Trump saying that.
So gorgeous.
tim pool
Everybody agrees.
adam crigler
Everybody.
tim pool
Everybody.
adam crigler
I can't do Trump.
tim pool
Caleb says, it's true.
The U.S.
Navy is the second largest Air Force based on number of aircraft.
The Army has more boats than the Navy because of small boats and transport boats.
That's hilarious.
adam crigler
Navy's just coming up short.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
No, they have the biggest Air Force.
adam crigler
Yeah, second biggest.
tim pool
Your Air Force isn't that big and you don't got as many boats.
Georgio says, check out the Barry Williams show music video by Peter Gabriel.
It's satire's trashy TV and the audience gets covered in blood.
A lyric is, they call the studio the hospital making money from the sick.
Zerial says, most people never realize except their own faults.
Instead, they create new realities.
This happened with the Democrats in 2016.
They weren't wrong.
Instead, 50% of the country was white supremacists.
Yes, exactly.
adam crigler
It's always something.
tim pool
They're just like, it's the Skinner meme.
adam crigler
What can we use?
tim pool
The principal Skinner meme.
adam crigler
Which one?
tim pool
Where he's like, am I out of touch?
No, it's the children who are wrong.
That's exactly it.
unidentified
Everyone else is wrong.
tim pool
Not me.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Oh, it just jumped on me.
You gotta love it when the Super Chats do that.
adam crigler
Gotta love it.
tim pool
Arkansas, self-defense Krav Maga in central Arkansas posted a little pear riding a rocket ship.
Thank you for the Super Chat.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Mr. G says, what if the aliens bring a new virus that we have no defense against?
unidentified
Huh.
adam crigler
Well... That would probably be what they would lead with, so... Interesting.
Sure, but... They're probably not here.
tim pool
I've seen War of the Worlds, man.
It's the other way around.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Our diseases kill them.
Yeah, that's how it's done.
adam crigler
Haha, aliens!
Eh, just lick them.
tim pool
Let's see, 43j8321 says, I hope you are getting some range practice, it's important.
Aim small, miss small.
That's from the Patriot, right?
Aim small, miss small.
What does that mean?
Aim small, miss small.
lydia smith
Go big or go home?
adam crigler
Aim at a small target.
tim pool
It's like aim for the smallest point so that your miss will be within that range zone.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, if you aim for a really small area, then you're gonna miss in a really small range, right?
tim pool
All the ranges are closed.
lydia smith
Yeah, we have to wait.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of them are private, and so they're like clubs.
adam crigler
And Jersey's locking up again.
Yep.
tim pool
Dude, this state is horrible.
adam crigler
Yeah, I was looking forward to bouncing.
tim pool
We are getting out of this state.
adam crigler
It's official.
lydia smith
Time to jet.
adam crigler
We're saying it?
We're talking about it?
I mean, everyone knows we're leaving.
tim pool
Right, yeah, I announced it a couple weeks ago.
lydia smith
Yeah, we're gonna go somewhere else.
tim pool
We are leaving this state.
adam crigler
We are leaving New Jersey.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yes!
But no one will know where.
adam crigler
I don't tell people that live in Jersey, I say, I live outside Philadelphia.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
I'm in the Philly suburbs.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
We are.
It's the Philly suburbs.
But partly it's because if you said, like, South Jersey, people are going to be like, what's that?
Where's that?
adam crigler
What is South Jersey?
tim pool
If you say we're, like, basically in Philadelphia, they're like, oh.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, because we're basically in Philly.
Philadelphia.
All right, let's see what we got here in the Super Chats.
Jim McCarty says, Molyneux talks about the science of race and IQ.
He focuses on what to do about it, not so much belittling others.
He often points to East Asians, not whites, having a higher average IQ, whether one likes the results or not.
That is a very controversial subject.
I usually just defer to Sam Harris and basically point out, I don't know anything about it.
It's not an area of my research, but I'll tell you this, you will get banned if you do talk about it.
lydia smith
It turns out.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Let's see here.
Missing link media says my 70 year old never missed a day.
Um, at the grocery store, my daughter cleans motel rooms at a high end golf resort.
And I run a detail shop.
We've been climbing all over each other for over a month so far.
So good.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
adam crigler
Okay.
lydia smith
Stay healthy.
adam crigler
All right.
Yeah, I hope the seven-year-old, well, they didn't say what the seven-year-old is.
Maybe it's mother, father, something.
tim pool
Amanda says, you guys should check out the Me Too movement stuff that's taking over the gaming industry after OPG, Method, and Angry Joe.
We'll check it out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
JJ says, during World War II, the US government asked Hollywood to depict the military as
integrated because they feared racial tensions could be used against us.
The money funding these movements is foreign treason.
Interesting.
Tyler says, when you search someone's channel on YouTube, the search results don't show
the channel anymore, only videos.
Do you think there are ulterior motives?
Have you noticed this?
I have not noticed that, but I do know that you cannot Google search my two main channels.
They will not come up.
adam crigler
But you can check us out on Google, but don't even use Google anymore.
Duck, duck.
tim pool
All right, let's see here.
Maximum Weeb says, so thrilling watching you read chat portrait of a lady.
Quit my job a few weeks ago, fulfilled my dream of being a YouTuber like you.
Used to be Raj M., and I'm now Maximum Weeb, going to watch Hillsdale College lecture on Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
Cool.
adam crigler
Right on.
Nice.
tim pool
LB John says, come on down to VA Tim.
I got you.
Ranges are open.
We're not going to Virginia because Virginia scares me.
lydia smith
Yeah.
It's just too much.
tim pool
Yeah.
Seriously.
I don't want to like, dude, it's bad enough.
We have governor Murphy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Who's, who's saying all like, uh, you know, we got to lock everything down and you can't run your gym.
We'll arrest you, but protest please.
And I'll go protest with you.
Like other governors.
And I think he was actually, I'm not sure if he was implicated in the nursing home scandal.
lydia smith
I don't think he was.
tim pool
Can you Google it?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like 90% Cuomo.
tim pool
I think it's no, I'm there was like five governors and I think Murphy may have been one of them.
lydia smith
Oh, really?
tim pool
That's why I'm not sure.
adam crigler
That's why you know, it's like something like almost 50% like 45% of all COVID deaths in America happened in nursing homes.
tim pool
And Cuomo was putting sick people in the nursing homes.
adam crigler
Yep.
And killing old people, basically.
unidentified
Wow, man.
adam crigler
Spiking the numbers.
These people are making it worse than it is.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Conspiracy.
These people are creepy and evil, man.
adam crigler
This is horrifying.
lydia smith
I agree.
adam crigler
Creepy and evil, yo.
tim pool
Will he get in trouble for this?
adam crigler
I hope so.
I doubt it.
tim pool
Of course not.
lydia smith
He'll probably win the presidency.
tim pool
This never happens.
lydia smith
Yeah, they did send one to Murphy.
They sent letters to him.
tim pool
Did Murphy actually do it?
lydia smith
Well, he was one of the ones that they're calling out, so I think so.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Well, there you go.
So, I don't want to go to a state where you got a creepy, weirdo governor, and, you know, Ralph Northam is one of the most... The creepiest.
What's the word for, um, effectless, I guess is good?
lydia smith
That's a good word.
tim pool
And, um, ineffectual, uh, callow?
Calo?
Is that the word I'm thinking of?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
Let me check that one.
tim pool
Uh, yeah.
So, these states, I'm sorry, man.
And Virginia has had too much controversy.
Now, there are some states, like New Hampshire.
That's a good state.
I hear good things.
What's their state motto?
Live free or die?
lydia smith
Live free or die!
unidentified
Wow!
adam crigler
That's their motto?
tim pool
Live free or die.
adam crigler
I like it.
Wow!
lydia smith
I love it.
adam crigler
That makes me want to smash the like button.
tim pool
I love how definitive it is.
It's like... You know the meme where it's the old guy shrugging and he says, guess I'll die?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like... New Hampshire is like, you're either here or you're just... It's binary.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like... That is awesome, though.
I want to be free.
And yeah, I'd rather be free than... It's a big empty place, though.
tim pool
Big empty place.
Yeah, Maine sounds pretty good.
There's actually a town at the northernmost point of Maine where they speak French.
adam crigler
That's not really surprising.
tim pool
Yeah, because it's like right across is French Canada.
adam crigler
It's like back in the fur trapping days of America.
It's like French were all over the place over here, you know?
There's actually some... Mostly in the northern areas.
tim pool
There's some really cool parts of the U.S.
that are only accessible through Canada.
unidentified
Oh.
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
So there's... Parts of Alaska.
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, there's... I don't know if it is... I think it's in the Pacific Northwest.
It's like... If you go up to Vancouver and then go down, there's a little peninsula.
lydia smith
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Yeah.
And it's, it's like, you got to drive through Canada to get there or take a ferry or something.
And then there's, there's other accidental things due to mapping problems.
I think in like Minnesota, there's like a little peninsula that's controlled by the U.S.
and you can only get to it by going through Canada or taking a ferry.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
These are cool places.
Hard to get to.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
You're guarded by Canada all around you.
And the border, this is crazy.
You just drive, stop, go to a little booth where there's no humans, pick up the phone and say, Hey, I'm coming into Canada.
And they go, okay.
lydia smith
And then you hang up and you're driving.
That's exactly what they say.
tim pool
No, but that's it.
lydia smith
Just like that.
adam crigler
Yup.
tim pool
And then when you're coming back to America, it's the, you know, the guy's like, all right, welcome back to America.
lydia smith
Point Roberts.
That's what it's called.
tim pool
Which one?
lydia smith
The one that you have to drive through Vancouver.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So should we, we, we jumped to the art, I guess?
adam crigler
Before we do, I want to spin the UFO specifically for Captain UFO.
unidentified
Yes!
adam crigler
I saw that, and this is for you.
unidentified
Awesome!
adam crigler
So, on that note, we're gonna go to the art contest.
lydia smith
Oh, I'm excited.
tim pool
Because somebody's gonna win a board.
I think two boards, right?
Or three?
lydia smith
Two or three?
tim pool
Three boards!
adam crigler
Yep, I packed all the boards that are sending out for the meme contest.
tim pool
And then the mailing contest.
adam crigler
They're prepped to go.
The mailing contest, we're gonna do next Friday.
tim pool
But I don't think we're gonna announce.
We'll just send it to them, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, sure, why not?
No, let's just announce it.
No, let's announce it.
Come on.
lydia smith
That'd be more fun.
Should we draw it on air?
On our livestream?
tim pool
We should do that.
adam crigler
We'll have all the names.
tim pool
I'll get it all together.
If you would like to join the mailer contest to get one of these rump boards, go to timcast.com slash donate.
At the bottom of the page is a P.O.
box.
Send it to Timcast IRL and include in whatever you send that you would like the board and you will be in a big bucket.
We'll reach in to shuffle around and I guess we're gonna just grab one at random.
lydia smith
Give us your address.
tim pool
And then you will win the board.
lydia smith
That is correct.
tim pool
Make sure your address is on the letter or whatever you sent because not just the return, like you need to actually write like, I want the board, here's my address, send it to me please.
adam crigler
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
And then somebody's gonna get it.
adam crigler
So first we're gonna do some honorable mentions.
There's some Killer art that didn't win, but they were good.
tim pool
This one's weird.
adam crigler
I love this.
I don't care.
Everyone look at this.
Look at this.
This is someone physically made this.
This is a this is a like an actual doll of a soy Jesus giving birth to baby soy Tim.
What was this person on?
Bravo.
lydia smith
I love it.
adam crigler
It's fantastic.
tim pool
For those that are listening, I want to describe this.
Please describe it.
There is a soy Jesus who is literally a plant and his legs are fused and are literally a plant with peapods.
There is a sun behind his head and he is holding a little peapod that has a little doll version of me in it.
This is incredible.
adam crigler
Dude, it's so good.
tim pool
I wish we could give out more boards.
adam crigler
Me too, man.
You know what?
I really have been enjoying giving back to the people who follow us.
We should do another run of boards.
Why don't we do this?
We'll do a different graphic so people can try to win the same.
tim pool
Why don't we send something to the Honorable Mentions just because?
Because this is great stuff.
lydia smith
We can see what we come up with.
adam crigler
Okay.
Well, I mean, I didn't say that.
I just, you know, we can do it if you want.
It's up to you, man.
tim pool
It's like, this is so good.
adam crigler
It's good.
tim pool
It's a shame we're not picking it to win.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
It's like really, it is really done.
That's quality right there.
lydia smith
It's a little unsettling.
tim pool
Yeah, it's unsettling, but I love it.
adam crigler
You think that's unsettling?
Listen to what they wrote with it.
I thought I had an idea of what to make, but I got distracted by one of my quails scalping another quail and I ended up with this.
I don't know what that means.
lydia smith
I think the backstory is better than the picture.
unidentified
Wow.
What?
adam crigler
It's amazing.
That's awesome.
So this is from John Kim, who submitted this.
So thank you for that.
It's incredible.
tim pool
All right, the next one.
adam crigler
All right, here's the next one.
tim pool
Oh, I love this one.
This one's really good.
adam crigler
Can we zoom in on it?
tim pool
I don't think... No, we can't.
adam crigler
No, we can't.
Oh, okay.
It's really good.
I love the tofu block in the background with a beanie on.
It has a big beanie on it.
tim pool
It's really well done.
adam crigler
You might not be able to see it.
There's a little white run sign behind Lydia.
tim pool
White run.
adam crigler
I've got two cats in my hand.
This is great.
There's a little milk toast on the side with a beanie.
unidentified
I love it.
Wow.
adam crigler
This is really quality work right here.
tim pool
This is why I'm bummed.
adam crigler
This is another one of those ones where you're like, man, like, how do we not?
tim pool
Wait till you guys see the winner.
Yeah, my mind was blown by this.
Oh man, I love this one.
adam crigler
It's crazy.
I know, yeah.
tim pool
Should we go to that?
adam crigler
Hold on, this is WBM Illustrator.
tim pool
At Broken Render.
adam crigler
Broken Render.
Killer job.
Killer job.
lydia smith
That is amazing.
tim pool
Alright, here's the next one.
unidentified
Okay.
adam crigler
This one, I just love it.
I love it.
It's so cute.
Little Timcast IRL mascot.
tim pool
Alien wearing a beanie riding the UFO.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
I mean, what I said, this is what I asked for.
I want art that represents us.
Timcast IRL.
lydia smith
Yeah, this is it.
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
It combined the UFO and everything.
This is a good one.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It has my optimism, your beanie.
tim pool
Your optimism?
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
It's from at Sketchworks.
Sketch W R K S. Yeah.
It's actually really well done.
It's cool.
lydia smith
I like the little clouds behind it.
tim pool
This guy would be a cool little mascot for like a skateboard or something too.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
We can think about that too.
tim pool
So the next one we have is another honorable mention?
adam crigler
I believe so, yes.
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, man.
lydia smith
Yes, I like this one.
adam crigler
It's basically Left 4 Dead cast IRL.
Left 4 Dead.
Only I missed the memo.
What is this?
Well, I'm Soyberryin' Jesus.
That's what they've been calling me now.
Soyberryin'.
I'm evolving, if you will.
tim pool
So, for those that are listening, I look like, I don't know, I'm 50.
You're a journalist.
I think it looks like some kind of night vision scope or whatever.
I'm holding a rifle with proper trigger discipline.
adam crigler
You become truly jaded, I think.
tim pool
And I'm on a roof.
I'm on a roof.
adam crigler
Oh, you're clearly on a roof.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Now, hold on.
Now, Lydia.
is holding a sidearm of some sort, I believe, also with proper trigger discipline, and she has a medic pack and some boots.
She is tending to somebody as a bike lock on the ground.
adam crigler
Oh, somebody got beat up.
I was under the impression she rocked them with that thing.
tim pool
No, no.
Antifa bike locks.
adam crigler
I didn't actually notice her medic pouch.
tim pool
She's helping people.
unidentified
And now, for the best one, why don't you take this one?
adam crigler
Alright, actually, you know what?
I'm going to take this one over real quick because this is a... Wait, wait, wait, no, no, no.
tim pool
Describe.
adam crigler
Oh, describe.
Oh, yeah, for those... Oh, these are for the people who aren't actually watching.
So this is, in the center, is me, very jacked.
Actually, this is what I look like underneath this shirt.
It's true.
Yeah, that's me, totally.
And I'm carrying two throwing hatchets, it looks like.
They're very sharp, and my hair is majestically blowing in the wind.
lydia smith
Beautiful.
tim pool
You're wearing a loincloth.
adam crigler
And yes, I'm wearing a loincloth.
I'm prepared for anything.
lydia smith
Or nothing.
adam crigler
Two X's.
Come at me.
unidentified
Alright, now, don't forget that.
tim pool
Okay, but now you want to take over for the next hour.
adam crigler
Yeah.
All right.
So these are these are three that we chose.
Well, I always said, you know, you get to pick a winner and then I looked at who which one got the most likes and we discussed it and it felt a little unfair that yeah, Adam Adam is so nepotism.
So my mom watches the show.
Hi mom.
How you doing?
Love you.
I love you too.
And so she gave me some art and she sent it to me and I was like, oh, I got to put this
up because it's really good because we were talking about how are we going to win?
We got to get the old grandmas to go stand in front of the statues.
And so she did this.
She sent me this picture and it got the most likes.
And I was like, I was like, wow.
I mean, it's incredible.
Like, you know, the little mixed media.
She actually went to school for art.
She's an incredible artist and she did this.
tim pool
The ADL says anti-antifa is hate.
adam crigler
Oh really?
Really?
tim pool
So, so, so Adam, he comes to me, see?
He comes to me and he says, he says, hey look, my ma, she does a good art, huh?
She wins.
adam crigler
I'm gonna give it to her.
tim pool
She's the winner.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I was like, yo, that's nepotism bro.
adam crigler
I didn't tell them all to like it the most.
They all liked it the most.
tim pool
But that's because you tweeted that from your account.
adam crigler
I know, that's why we are choosing another one that is the second most liked,
which I, which would have been my personal favorite.
tim pool
You posted the photo though.
adam crigler
I did, I did post it, you see?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's the weakness.
tim pool
Adam trying to sneak in there.
adam crigler
Hey, hey.
With the family.
don't family they don't mind a lot of people were like wow give this give give
soy mom the you know funny enough she is vegan so she's truly sorry I love it
unidentified
sorry Mary sorry Mary All right.
adam crigler
So anyway, so mom, I'm sending you this board because you you earned it, I think.
So and a lot of people agree.
So it's not just because I think it may be because I posted it.
tim pool
So who got the most likes?
adam crigler
That would be this incredible.
Oh, let me see.
Is it not running?
lydia smith
I love my 8-bit.
tim pool
Click it.
adam crigler
I'm clicking it.
unidentified
I'm clicking it.
adam crigler
Damn it's not working.
tim pool
Let me try, let me try.
I'll refresh it.
adam crigler
Yeah, refresh the page.
tim pool
There we go.
adam crigler
This is amazing.
I love it.
I love it so much.
I'm smashing the like button.
I'm spinning the UFO.
Tim's harrumphing.
tim pool
Harrumphing.
It just plays once.
adam crigler
And Lydia's just like, listen to these two guys.
lydia smith
I'm listening.
tim pool
It's an 8-bit little graphic.
adam crigler
It's so good.
tim pool
It got the most likes.
adam crigler
I mean, I started, my first gaming experience was Game Boy.
Everything was 8-bit.
You know, it was all just the sound, the look of it.
And I'm seeing myself, I'm like, yeah, that's my new profile picture.
lydia smith
That's so cool.
adam crigler
I haven't changed it.
It's actually over on Parler, it is.
And I love it so much.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
adam crigler
So congrats, Danilson Bergowa.
You won a board.
unidentified
Very cool.
adam crigler
So I will be hitting you up.
tim pool
And now for the winner.
adam crigler
So now the top, the best of the best.
I mean, wow.
It is incredible.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
Let's do it.
adam crigler
Let's pull it up.
Go in here and just pop it up.
I'm going to do it here.
Okay, this is incredible.
This is speaking to Tim and I. I mean, I used to play Dungeons & Dragons a lot more than I do now, but I would totally play it again, but man, that is so cool.
You're basically a planeswalker casting a spell.
tim pool
It's very fantasy, very D&D, Magic the Gathering-style art.
lydia smith
It's so cool.
tim pool
But it's just like, the detail is wow!
Look at the light beaming off of the scepter.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Felipe, wow.
That's incredible.
adam crigler
Seriously, Felipe Escobar.
tim pool
And then you're wearing a Viking helmet and you've got a broad axe of some sort.
And you're also wearing a loincloth.
Lydia is an elven archer.
And the crazy thing about this bow is, I don't know how they knew this, but we have two of those.
lydia smith
We actually have those, yeah.
tim pool
That specific bow right there?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
We actually literally have those.
unidentified
Yeah, we have them.
adam crigler
That's so weird.
tim pool
I was like, but there's so many bows you could have drawn.
You literally do the one that we have.
Oh, that's creepy.
It's right there.
adam crigler
And the UFO coming around too.
lydia smith
I'm looking at it.
adam crigler
I love it.
tim pool
It's right there in the room.
lydia smith
I love the UFO.
adam crigler
So they actually included a letter and basically was saying, you know, I have been a freelancer for a long time and normally I wouldn't, you know, partake in a contest because my art is my livelihood.
And I mean, it shows.
You can see that they're incredible.
lydia smith
There's Bucko.
adam crigler
But they actually saw us.
Oh, I didn't even see Bucco.
It's Bucco.
You don't even call him Bucco.
I don't even understand it.
tim pool
It's his proper name.
Nobody calls me Timothy.
Yeah, sometimes.
adam crigler
Yeah, and it's weird every time.
tim pool
It's his proper name.
adam crigler
Thank you for proving my point.
Proving my point.
Anyway, before I was rudely interrupted by Timothy, No, so he goes on saying that he wouldn't have entered a contest normally, but because he saw what was happening to Reese Nielsen and how she is being targeted for being an artist, but having an opinion outside of her... No, no!
tim pool
She didn't even have an opinion.
She was just following Mike's circumstances.
unidentified
Right, right.
adam crigler
Not even an opinion.
Just simply the things that have happened to her.
He's like, it is an outrage what's going on in the world right now, and I just wanted to... He appreciates what we're doing and drew this for us.
Dude, I want to make sure...
I really appreciate you, Philippe.
You did an incredible job with this one.
It blew me away when I saw it.
tim pool
It's incredible.
If you would like, you could send us the raw complete file and we could make a poster of it.
That would be so cool.
Because that would be awesome to put up.
adam crigler
I think we should hire him for this.
We should pay him for it.
Hit him up.
For the two people that I don't know, that one, I will be hitting you up via DM.
Mom, I'll call you later.
Look at this guy.
She deserved the board.
She did an amazing job.
tim pool
To be fair, we had an extra board.
That's fantastic.
We had allotted the male.
We had the most liked.
adam crigler
I regret nothing.
tim pool
The best choice.
And there was one extra one.
Adam's like, I'm gonna give it to my mom.
It's like, okay, dude.
adam crigler
She sent me and she said, look, I did some art for your art contest.
And I was like, that's dope.
And I just posted it.
tim pool
We could put this art on the next run of boards or something.
adam crigler
Oh, my goodness.
Yes.
I bet the chat's gonna go nuts.
Like I want that board.
I saw it for the when you mentioned it for the alien.
Can you guys do you guys agree that this art belongs on a board?
I for one want it.
I want it on my wall.
tim pool
I love it.
Let's talk to Felipe, because if he can actually add the nose and the tail to the top and the bottom, like extended art, that would be one of the coolest boards ever.
adam crigler
That would be epic.
unidentified
Wow, man.
tim pool
That would be awesome.
Awesome boards.
adam crigler
He's a professional, so he can definitely do it.
tim pool
Well, there you go, man.
Congratulations.
This is really good stuff.
We need to get the Rumpfenberg one, too.
That was hilarious.
adam crigler
I mean, Chet actually hit me up and sent me the file.
So I have it.
Yep.
lydia smith
We got a paper.
adam crigler
Yep.
That was the winner of the meme competition two weeks ago.
So that was really good.
tim pool
Rad.
adam crigler
Yep.
It was great being back.
I missed spinning the UFO for you guys.
So here's how I'm going to spin it again real quick.
You go ahead and talk.
I'm going to spin.
tim pool
So I think, you know, part of losing my voice too isn't just the singing.
That really made it worse.
But to be honest, I'm doing like four hours of content every day.
So I think we really gotta make sure we maintain a semi-medium stop.
Not too hard at ten, but we shouldn't go longer than too long.
Otherwise...
adam crigler
Well, and I pride myself on pushing your buttons, too, and I was pushing your buttons a couple times last week.
tim pool
That was a good episode.
adam crigler
It was a good episode.
tim pool
It was last Monday.
adam crigler
Yep, last Monday.
tim pool
This is crazy, so I had this rant, but the rant before mine was yours, and yours has got 2.2 million views on Facebook from the Hodge twins.
adam crigler
Well, it's because I straight-up said I'm voting for Trump, and they're like, But you explained a little bit.
Liberal!
Liberal voted for Trump!
And I'm like, I don't... I wasn't anything.
I just didn't pay attention.
Now I'm paying attention.
tim pool
Yeah, but like, the stereotype of the long-haired, freaky people.
adam crigler
Long-haired, freaky people.
tim pool
Yeah, voting for Trump is like, whoa.
adam crigler
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, what now?
tim pool
Actually, that's not true.
There's a lot of long-haired, freaky people voting for Trump.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
But you're like your New York dwelling, urban pro skater, vegan, you know, guy.
adam crigler
Not what they expect.
tim pool
And then you're like, I looked at the evidence and I think Trump is the right choice.
They're like, he's logical.
He's reading, he's reading news and making choice based off of informed opinions.
adam crigler
He's reading news and also the source, different sources to find out the news isn't actually 100% true.
tim pool
I'll tell you this, look.
What?
If someone came to me and said, I've read the news, I just can't vote for Trump, I'd be like, I hear you.
If someone said, I read the news, I absolutely must vote for Biden, I'd be like, you're lying.
adam crigler
It's not true.
tim pool
Saying you're not going to vote for Trump doesn't mean you are going to vote for Biden.
Cause I've talked to a lot of people who said that Biden can't win.
They hate Biden, but they're probably going to vote for third party.
And a lot of my lefty friends, dude, have straight up said like, there's no way I'm voting for Biden.
I'll vote for the third party.
adam crigler
So that may be Trump's... I think, and Joe Jorgensen has a fairly interesting platform that a lot of the Biden voters are going to be like, I don't want Biden, I don't want either of these two, I'm going with Joe.
tim pool
Maybe.
adam crigler
Joe Jorgensen.
tim pool
Yeah, but she's a libertarian.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So people who vote for Biden are the people who aren't paying attention.
adam crigler
Yeah, but the people who are voting for Trump will never vote for anyone other than Trump.
tim pool
Not necessarily.
What I mean is... For the most part.
There are middle-of-the-road people who are like, you know, I've been reading the news, I've been following it, I see what they're saying, but I can't vote for Trump, man.
I can't.
Maybe I'll do it.
There's those people.
And that's like, I accept that.
If you read the news and you really came to the conclusion he wasn't your guy, that's respectable.
But anybody who says, I'm voting for Biden, clearly isn't paying attention to actual news.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
They're like, their friend sent them a meme, and they're like, Orange man bad, I'm voting for Biden.
No you're not, dude.
Look, because, and my respect to the progressives, you know, like, as much as I might disagree with some of them, people like, you know, David Pakman, Kyle Kalinske, or Jimmy Dore, they're talking about actual candidates whose ideas they like.
Joe Biden doesn't have those.
adam crigler
Hey, Joe Biden, what kind of, what's your platform?
Well, Obama and I did all these things, Obama.
tim pool
Here's what you guys gotta do.
adam crigler
It's like, what?
tim pool
Go on your phones, and you type in, here's the deal, and then you just keep pressing the predictive text in the middle until you max out your tweet, and that's how you make a Biden speech.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So no, when asked about his policies, he goes, here's the deal.
The thing, you know, we had work, and I'm telling you, with the work, we'll get good deals.
And the money you'll get when a Monday comes, and then we'll have a fiscal policy.
You're like, what?
lydia smith
Say what now?
tim pool
Or try this.
Listen, hear, fat, comma, and then predictive text.
And that's your Joe Biden speech.
adam crigler
So here's one last super chat.
It's from Roger P. It says, Hi Adam's mom.
You did great.
Adam is the only great vegan I've ever heard.
No doubt.
No doubt, all of you.
Tim, Adam, Lids, cheers.
Come to Utah mountains, desert, Moab, canyon lands, and civilization.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
Yeah, indeed.
adam crigler
Appreciate it.
tim pool
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Smash!
tim pool
But also... I wanna smash it.
Smash the subscribe button, the like button.
adam crigler
I need a physical like button that I can be like...
Okay, sorry.
Get a little into it.
tim pool
We need to get that soundboard going.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
Soundboard, I would break.
I want to physically attack something.
unidentified
Smash, smash, smash.
adam crigler
Maybe like against the wall.
I could turn around and just start punching it.
unidentified
It's like the like button.
tim pool
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adam crigler
Please do.
tim pool
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adam crigler
Same for me.
Also, Adam Krigler, on the same platforms.
tim pool
And at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
We will be back tomorrow!
Thanks for hanging out, and we will see you all then.
lydia smith
Bye guys.
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