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June 12, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Minneapolis Votes To ABOLISH Police, People Are FLEEING Cities In Droves
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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unidentified
How's it going everybody?
tim pool
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
I'm hanging out with some friends tonight.
We're going to talk about some stuff.
adam crigler
Are we going to talk about stuff?
tim pool
Talk about stuff.
And junk.
adam crigler
I really love talking stuff with you, Tim.
And you too, Lydia.
lydia smith
Oh, thanks, Adam.
tim pool
Speaking of which, stuff and junk.
lydia smith
Yeah, there I am.
Look at that.
Sour Patch Lids.
I'm wearing my cool t-shirt.
adam crigler
Oh, rumpf.
lydia smith
I hope I open match everyone today.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
Well, we got, uh... Man, I can't believe it.
The mad lads of Minneapolis did it.
adam crigler
Oh yeah?
tim pool
They voted to abolish the police.
lydia smith
They did it.
adam crigler
So it's official?
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So it's not going to be overnight, but you know, we'll read through the story.
It's like a long plan.
New York is pushing a plan to cut a billion dollars out of the NYPD budget as well.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Now, I think that might be like a sixth.
So I'm not sure if it's, you know, how much of an impact that would really have.
adam crigler
A billion dollars.
tim pool
But there's also, so when I saw the story, I asked, is property value collapsing in Minneapolis now?
adam crigler
I would suspect so, yeah.
tim pool
You gotta be insane to buy property in Seattle or Minneapolis right now.
adam crigler
Literally insane.
Yeah, it's gonna be Chaz 2.0 in no time.
tim pool
So this is interesting.
There's a tweet showing that 18% of the listings are from the past week in Minneapolis.
adam crigler
Wow, 18% boost in listings.
Yeah, but... Where is everyone going?
tim pool
That might be normal, or it might be something not unique to Minneapolis at the very least.
But there is a major spike in demand from mortgages, 18%, so that looks legit.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
People are bugging out, dude.
Could you imagine if you owned a building in Seattle?
These people don't understand, man.
Once the property owners leave and there's no more taxes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So here's what Chicago's doing.
You know what Chicago's plan is?
adam crigler
No, I have no idea.
tim pool
Jack the taxes up.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Because people are fleeing.
adam crigler
Wow.
unidentified
Dude.
adam crigler
So it's like Flint with the water.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Less people, you pay more.
tim pool
The end of cities is nigh.
adam crigler
I would not want to live in a city without police officers.
No way.
tim pool
Right, because, have you seen the videos?
adam crigler
We don't realize how much they actually do.
tim pool
You know what, man, we'll talk about this too, because I've been thinking, you know, some countries have a civil guard and police and they're separate.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I think that might make a lot of sense.
adam crigler
Having both.
tim pool
Civil guard would be people who handle, like, you get a ticket for your parking ticket or, like, speeding or whatever.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they don't have lethal, they don't engage in arrests or anything like that.
They handle all the petty stuff.
And then the police only respond to emergencies.
adam crigler
That sounds good.
unidentified
Maybe, maybe.
tim pool
I don't know.
I mean, it's a surface level idea.
We have to really explore this.
But I got bad news for everybody.
unidentified
What's that?
tim pool
Got bad news.
adam crigler
Of course you do.
tim pool
The Chaz has a deadline.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
No!
adam crigler
I saw that.
tim pool
For those that don't know.
adam crigler
Someone just hit me up and they said to shout out to them.
So, thank you.
tim pool
The mayor says she thinks there will be a summer of love.
And maybe.
But on their website, they've informed travelers.
Nah, they got a week left.
And they're out.
So we'll see, we'll see.
And we got some other stuff we might talk about.
We got a lot of Chaz stuff we're gonna go through.
And there's something really funny.
Somebody in Cap Hill got their tires slashed.
adam crigler
Wow, really?
tim pool
And you know what they were told on Reddit?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Did you call the police?
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
Wow.
Anyway, we're going to talk about the property taxes stuff.
This is going to be a big one, man.
The property taxes, we've got a lot to talk about.
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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adam crigler
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tim pool
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unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
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lydia smith
There we go.
tim pool
We do the show every Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
tonight after the show.
Adam will be playing some music once we wrap up.
adam crigler
Yes, I know.
Everyone, he did say he was going to play, but he actually is going to be recording some stuff tomorrow.
Oh my gosh.
And he talks all day long.
I know.
Yep, yep, yep.
Tim Pool.
Yep.
He's got to hold his voice.
So I'm going to be rocking out some songs.
Maybe a few.
I don't know what I'm going to play.
tim pool
I really want to.
Wait, hold on.
I just saw Super Chat.
Someone said Netflix pulled the Lethal Weapon 5 episode of It's Always Sunny.
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
You know what, man?
adam crigler
I don't even know what that means.
tim pool
It's a blackface episode.
adam crigler
Oh, is it?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Because Lethal Weapon had, was it Danny Glover?
adam crigler
Oh, Danny Glover.
And Mel Gibson, I think.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
tim pool
So you have Mac and, who was it?
Was it Charlie?
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
That's crazy.
The show is supposed to be offensive.
unidentified
It's supposed to be... Unorthodox.
lydia smith
Yeah, horrible.
Horrible people.
tim pool
You know what, man?
I don't know what any of that has to do with the police brutality stuff.
Nothing.
It makes no sense.
Whoa, man.
You saw the tweet from John Cleese earlier.
He's got this really great segment that he did 30 years ago.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And he talks about the benefits of being an extremist and it's awesome.
He's like, if you're an extremist on the left, you know, he basically says being an extremist gives you the ability to blame everyone else for all of your problems.
You can be an aggressive, mean person and still think you're a great person doing all these good things.
adam crigler
You're morally justified to be such.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I love how he's like, when you're on the left, you have a select group of people you can oppose, like the government, the major corporations, the media, and he's like, and of course, moderates.
And then he's like, and if you're on the right, you can oppose migrants and, you know, this group and whatever.
And he goes, and then of course, moderates.
lydia smith
And I was like, yes, yes, exactly.
adam crigler
So anyway, let's read this first story.
tim pool
Minneapolis City Council unanimously votes to abolish its police.
adam crigler
It was unanimous?
tim pool
Unanimous.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Dude, these people have lost their minds.
adam crigler
That's the blue.
Vote blue.
tim pool
There have been several studies that have come out.
Out of every single group polled, Every possible demographic.
College degree, no college degree, dropouts, 30+, 45, 65, whatever.
Male, female, black, white, Mexican, whatever.
They all said no to defunding the police.
Except one group.
Self-described liberals.
Was the only group, according to YouGov, that said they had a plurality saying defund the police.
lydia smith
With higher education, right?
tim pool
So, uh, no, even higher education said no.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, so people with postgraduate degrees said no.
I don't know who these people think they're pandering to.
adam crigler
Who's in control there, then?
unidentified
Dude.
adam crigler
If that's the case.
tim pool
This is the reality right now, and I've been saying it for a long time, and this is why I think we are on the right side.
If the polls over and over and over again say Yep.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, Biden's campaign is just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The thing, we shouldn't do that, that thing.
makes no sense. The Democrats themselves have tried to reject this. Bernie Sanders says no.
adam crigler
They're still doing it. Yeah, Biden's campaign is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, the thing, we shouldn't do that, that thing. Yeah, you know the thing.
tim pool
Listen, Trump crossed the line first.
He squeezed them, he hammered them, and he made them desperate in their desperation.
They turned to a group of people they didn't quite understand.
That's the Batman.
So I don't really think Trump crossed the line first.
I think Trump is a symptom of everything that was going on.
But you had all this insanity in culture, which resulted in people saying a lot of people wanted to vote for Trump for a few reasons, one of which was political correctness.
And then the left went insane.
They lost, and they didn't know why they lost in 2016.
They're doing the same playbook.
So then what do they do?
They start pandering to these lunatics on Twitter.
Twitter will ban a conservative, but they will let the far left go insane.
Jack Dorsey himself will glorify violence.
No repercussions.
And then what happens is these people see this stuff and they think, this must be real life.
You know the funniest thing I heard was?
I can't remember which journalist said this, but they were like, you'll often hear critics, conservative and right-wing pundits say that Twitter isn't real life.
What they're really saying is certain voices aren't allowed at the table.
adam crigler
Yup.
tim pool
Their argument is that Twitter allows marginalized voices a chance to speak up, and those that argue it's not real life are arguing that these marginalized voices aren't actually of merit.
No, it means that there is a fringe group of wackos who don't even represent those marginalized groups convincing people they do, and convincing the entire city council to abolish its police department.
So they say they're going to replace it with a community-led public safety system, while NYC leaders push plan to cut $1 billion from the NYPD budget.
adam crigler
What is the regular NYPD budget?
tim pool
I think it's like $6 billion.
adam crigler
$6 billion?
tim pool
I could be wrong.
Maybe they'll bring it up.
Let's read a little bit.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
They say the move comes days after a veto-proof majority of the council voted to disband the police department after the country erupted in protest.
And we know what we know all about that.
Thank you for informing us.
The Minneapolis vote was cast as New York City Council pushed to cut $1 billion from the NYPD budget.
So we have the tweet.
The tweet says, from the city of Minneapolis, the city council unanimously approved a resolution today declaring the intent to create a transformative new model of cultivating safety, committing to a year-long process of community engagement to guide the work.
So it looks like we won't actually see any direct action for a year.
One thing we will see though over this year, I'm willing to bet, tomorrow, All property values in Minneapolis are down 40%.
Some ridiculous number.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Maybe even 80 or 90.
Maybe even, like, just nothing.
Just gone.
lydia smith
Negative.
adam crigler
Who's moving in?
No, it might... Who's going to pay to move in?
lydia smith
Abandoned properties.
adam crigler
When you've got places like Chaz happening, it's like, they're just going to move in and be like, you want us to pay?
No, no, no.
This is our country now.
That's what they are saying.
Chaz isn't... They're renouncing their citizenship.
tim pool
Are they really?
adam crigler
Yes.
lydia smith
Seriously?
adam crigler
Yes.
unidentified
Whoa.
lydia smith
I didn't hear about that.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
I've read it from multiple sources.
tim pool
That people down there are nuts.
adam crigler
That people are there like, they're holding guns.
They're like, this is our country now.
We are no longer US citizens.
And I'm like...
tim pool
Wow.
adam crigler
I didn't believe it at first.
And then I saw it from another source.
I'm like, wow.
tim pool
You know what's really funny?
adam crigler
This is crazy.
tim pool
Did you watch the Dave Chappelle thing yet?
adam crigler
I have.
tim pool
You see how he called Don Lemon, what did he call him?
A dose of reality?
But sarcastically.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like that piece of reality.
Right, right.
Don Lemon.
Don Lemon.
adam crigler
It was powerful though.
tim pool
Don Lemon is an idiot.
But anyway, I bring that up because CNN is trash.
And Oliver Darcy, who is their media reporter, wrote the weirdest story that armed Antifa isn't taking over a portion of Seattle.
And then in the story, he says, yes, it's true that they've taken this over.
adam crigler
He snoped them.
Yes, right.
unidentified
Sure did.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But here's the funny thing about it is that When Antifa is invoked, he and so many others go, Antifa's not even a group.
lydia smith
They're not even real.
tim pool
And then as soon as it comes to the question of whether or not Antifa affiliated groups are taking this place over, he goes, well Antifa isn't there.
Other groups are, and it's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, man.
Now you're of the persuasion that Antifa is an actual group?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now he's lying.
The best part is, though, CNN had an on-the-ground reporter, right?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And the guy's talking and he's like, it's very peaceful and everything's fine.
Then someone jumps in front of the camera and starts yelling, trying to block him, because he's trying to shut down the shot.
He starts calling for people to shut down CNN, calling them racist.
The guy moves, and then he says the most ridiculous thing.
He says something like, the people here are armed, and so there is a potential for bloodshed if law enforcement tries to remove them.
It's like, okay.
lydia smith
So which is it?
tim pool
Is it peaceful?
You mean to tell me the peaceful anti-fascists will Shoot at cops?
The peaceful law-abiding citizens?
Nah, I'm sorry, dude.
CNN, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
So let me show you this.
Now, I don't know.
So the tweet says, 18.6% of Minneapolis's total real estate listings have popped up for sale in just the last seven days.
And they show two tweets.
One, that unanimously passes resolution to replace police department with a community-led public safety system.
And then we have this, which shows, you know, they did a search for the past seven days, 18% of the listings popped up in the past week.
Here's what I did.
I pulled up Zillow.
I chose a bunch of other cities.
Cincinnati, Boise, Idaho.
What else did I pick?
Topeka.
I didn't really see a pattern, anything you could prove.
Like, in the past seven days, a bunch of listings have popped up on a ton of different cities.
This does seem to be the highest I did see, but I saw, you know, like, some were, it was like 8 to 12%, and then this one was 18.
So maybe that 6%, I just chose random cities, it's not like that it proves anything.
It does seem like there are a little bit more properties being listed than other places.
It might just be normal?
I don't know.
It could also be that everyone is leaving every single city.
I'm not an expert in real estate, so if you guys are listening, if you guys work in real estate, is this normal for 18% of all listings to have appeared in the past week?
It's 18.6%, I guess.
lydia smith
That seems like a lot.
tim pool
But I will add this, because this kind of adds to it.
June 3rd, mortgage demand from homebuyers jumps 18% as interest rates set another record low.
It sounds like they're saying mortgage demand, homebuyers, because the rates are great!
June 3rd!
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
What was happening on June 3rd?
What was happening on June 3rd?
lydia smith
I don't remember.
tim pool
You don't remember what happened on June 3rd?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You don't?
lydia smith
What happened?
tim pool
Are you serious?
adam crigler
Nine days ago.
lydia smith
No, something happened and I, shoot, I don't remember.
tim pool
None of you remember what happened on June 3rd?
Are you kidding me, dude?
It was a week of riots across the country.
lydia smith
Is that when it started?
adam crigler
That's a week of riots.
What happened exactly on June 3rd, Tim?
tim pool
People were running around burning things and throwing bricks at cops.
adam crigler
Oh, that's so ambiguous.
I want a specific example.
tim pool
Someone threw a brick at a cop.
Oh, is that what happened?
adam crigler
I mean, sure, riots were riding.
lydia smith
It's been going on, it feels like forever.
adam crigler
I was expecting some specific thing.
tim pool
Like a meteor crash into a city?
adam crigler
I knew it was a trap.
tim pool
June 3rd.
I don't know what happened.
I could look it up.
adam crigler
Wait, Tim, you don't know what happened June 3rd?
tim pool
Any specific events?
adam crigler
This article came out.
tim pool
No, spare me.
June 3rd, we all knew what was going on for the whole week.
Why would mortgage demand be skyrocketing at that time?
And CNBC is like, interest rates are at a record low.
Oh, that's why!
Nobody's paying attention to the explosions happening outside their windows when they live in these cities.
It's just a coincidence.
The rates are down, and so they're like, I'm gonna go buy a new house somewhere else.
In San Francisco, they're fleeing.
In New York, they're fleeing.
In Chicago, they're fleeing.
Everybody is getting out.
And everybody can afford it.
What do you expect, man?
So you know what's gonna happen in Minneapolis, in my opinion?
So they said it's a year-long plan to abolish the police or whatever and replace them.
adam crigler
You know, can you go back to that original article you were reading from?
tim pool
This one?
adam crigler
So, the City Council unanimously approves a resolution today declaring the intent to create a transformative new model of cultivating safety and committing a year-long process of community engagement to guide work.
That should have been number one, before anything else.
tim pool
What do you mean?
adam crigler
The cops can be included in that.
Like, if we cultivate this, if they do this and it's successful, like, you can have police
officers and that.
Like, that sounds great to me.
I like the sound of that.
tim pool
Reform.
Right.
And in fact, some of the higher profile Black Lives Matter activists have been saying reform.
And then the extremists broke through the dam.
So I look at it this way, right?
You have a dam that requires a certain amount of stress before it finally breaks, and that's when you get reform.
Finally the dam broke, but now there's too much and it's flooding the town below.
Instead of getting just enough through to make a positive change, humans don't do that.
Humans are unfortunately, they go over the top.
So finally now, we have a real opportunity to fix things.
And what do they do?
Abolish, defund, and in the Chazz, they're calling for abolishing the courts.
lydia smith
That's insane.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, Chaz isn't the States anymore, as far as I'm concerned.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're a different kind of country.
adam crigler
They've declared their own country, so they can do away with whatever they want to do.
They have no say of what we do in our country anymore.
tim pool
Didn't someone say the other day that we should put up a border around that area and then set up checkpoints?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And you've got to get a passport to come in and out, put some CBP at the streets?
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
They wouldn't last.
tim pool
And there's going to be import and export.
You want to bring in food?
Oh, oh, oh.
Yep.
Taxes.
unidentified
Oh, oh.
tim pool
Exports.
adam crigler
Tariffs.
You're taking food from our country?
Oh, excuse me?
unidentified
No electricity?
lydia smith
Yeah, no.
adam crigler
You got tariffs on that.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So I got to mention this, though.
One of the funniest things I've seen, because the libertarians are all jumping up and down
and hooting and waving their arms in the air.
adam crigler
None of them.
tim pool
None of them.
They are, because the chief of police said something like, the activists are going to
businesses and demanding payment in exchange to operate in the area.
This is the crime of extortion.
And so all the libertarians are like, did they just admit taxes are theft?
Yes Going to a business and demanding money for them to operate.
adam crigler
Yeah, but they called it extortion There's there's a difference between just just saying you need to pay us to live here because you were just saying to cut off their water cut off their food cut off the Ability to have access to all these things that taxes help pay for so there is kind of an argument argument for that. It is a little. No no no no the argument
tim pool
against that is you can't cut off the water to the residents who have nothing to do with this.
That's true. A bunch of a bunch of weirdos put put blocks in front of the streets and other people who
adam crigler
live there have to deal with it. And yet you said it yourself yesterday if they're not asking
for our help. Right. If they're not asking for help why why should we feel bad for them. Yeah
absolutely. Well no no. They're sitting in their in their in the Chaz country I guess. In Chaz. Chaz
unidentified
yeah yeah the country of Chaz. I don't I don't feel bad for him at all.
tim pool
Like a lot of these people are coming outside and dancing and waving their arms in the air.
Like, there are posts on Reddit where they're like, this is the greatest day of my life.
It's the coolest thing.
I live here.
This is so awesome.
I'm letting people come hang out and take showers.
They love it.
This is what I was saying.
This is what people need to understand.
You can't assume they hate it because you might hate it.
You know what I mean?
A lot of people project how they would experience something.
And so, look, if I lived there, I'd be unhappy.
I'd be like, this is awful.
adam crigler
You'd be leaving.
tim pool
These people are crazy.
No, I'd probably cause trouble.
I'd be like, it's my property!
It's mine!
window and like call myself King, you know, King Chaz or whatever.
And I'd be like, I, it's my property.
It's mine.
And I would, I would get buddies and they would put on like cardboard armor and stuff.
adam crigler
A true roof Korean.
tim pool
Dude.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then I would get, I would get friends to wear cardboard armor with cardboard
swords and stand in front of the door.
adam crigler
Cardboard swords.
tim pool
Yeah, because it's silly.
I'm trying to be absurd and cause trouble, you know.
That's what I would do if I was there.
So, I gotta admit, I probably wouldn't be unhappy.
adam crigler
I don't think Raz would let that happen.
He seems pretty... What's he gonna do?
Authoritative.
tim pool
What's he gonna do?
adam crigler
I don't know, man.
tim pool
Nah.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
Not.
tim pool
See, if I lived there, I'd have my cardboard soldiers out in front.
adam crigler
Sure you would.
tim pool
I would, I absolutely would.
It would be the silliest, stupid nonsense ever.
But anyway, the point is, yeah, I probably wouldn't be unhappy.
adam crigler
I'd be like, this is ridiculous and silly, and, you know, however... Yeah, until you needed food, and you had to go through their checkpoints and bring your food back, and they go, oh, okay, half that food's ours now.
tim pool
I'd cause so much trouble, you have no idea.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
I'd get in the fights.
adam crigler
Yeah, I know, and that would lead to your undoing in Chaz.
tim pool
In Chaz?
adam crigler
You're being so optimistic.
It's not like you, man.
tim pool
I was at Occupy Wall Street, okay?
Right.
If I lived in a building, if right now people set up on my block, I would cause an insane amount of trouble for these people.
adam crigler
Occupy Wall Street is not the same as Chaz.
tim pool
Oh, come on, man.
What's the difference?
Guys with guns?
What are they going to do?
adam crigler
They're leveled.
They leveled up, man.
tim pool
They leveled up.
adam crigler
It's Occupy leveled up.
lydia smith
They seem kind of incompetent.
tim pool
I agree with that.
adam crigler
That may be true that they're incompetent, but they're also demanding things from the government, getting things from the government.
tim pool
So was Occupy Wall Street.
adam crigler
Declaring it their own country.
tim pool
That's right.
That's just that's just silliness.
adam crigler
You say that now.
tim pool
Uh huh.
adam crigler
You say that now.
lydia smith
You think it's going to grow?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, according to the governor, it's not.
lydia smith
Probably not.
adam crigler
Who now seems to know about the situation.
unidentified
He's aware.
tim pool
He's aware of the situation now.
Didn't even know it was happening in his own state, and he has the nerve to criticize Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Trump knows what's happening in your city, and you don't, and you think Trump's doing a bad job?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Shut up.
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
lydia smith
Seriously, this guy ran for president?
adam crigler
Where's his tweet?
unidentified
Which one?
adam crigler
No, no, no.
This tweet here.
lydia smith
There we go.
adam crigler
So, hold on, let me just shout out to Patriot Zero on Twitter.
Hit me up with this.
And this is from the Seattle government website.
It's basically showing a corner in CHAZ.
I'll read it here.
It says, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, East Pine between 10th Avenue and 12th Avenue.
Start date is the 7th.
End date is the 20th.
So, supposedly there's an end date from the governor's website.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Why?
lydia smith
So he was aware of it?
adam crigler
What does this mean?
Yeah.
Was he aware of this?
lydia smith
Yeah.
That's weird.
adam crigler
This is what?
Five days ago was started?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It could just be that they have to enter an end date when they database something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But it could also be that they're planning on making a move, and so they have a timeline.
Because they could have put, you know, 9-9-9-9-9-9 or whatever.
Instead, they gave a definitive date.
A definitive time.
I won't be surprised if they come in and sweep everybody in the Chaz out.
But when asked about it, check this out, we have an article.
The Seattle mayor says she doesn't know how long Chaz's occupation will continue.
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkin jokingly said we could have a summer of love when asked how long Seattle's police free zone could remain in place.
You know what I love about Chaz?
adam crigler
What do you love about it?
tim pool
It's, it's, it's, they conquered it.
adam crigler
Right?
Okay.
tim pool
They're colonizers.
They found land that was already owned and occupied.
They came in with rocks, bottles, and guns.
adam crigler
Sounds familiar.
tim pool
Set up walls to keep out undesirables.
And then declared it was their town.
adam crigler
Checkpoints.
Yup.
An authority figure.
lydia smith
Border patrol.
adam crigler
Border patrol.
Everything's there.
ID checks.
lydia smith
A mini police state.
I love it.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Warlord.
Dictators.
adam crigler
What are they fighting again?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
I thought that was what they were not going for.
tim pool
See, this is what I was trying to explain to people.
Like Occupy Wall Street, they don't actually want to change the system.
adam crigler
No, they want the power for themselves.
tim pool
They just want to own it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They want to be on top of the system.
adam crigler
They want a piece of the pie.
tim pool
Apparently there was a tweet going around where somebody tried to create an autonomous zone inside Jez.
adam crigler
I saw that.
tim pool
What was that all about?
unidentified
I don't know.
adam crigler
See, that's what you would have done.
That's what you were just saying.
tim pool
Oh, totally.
adam crigler
So you would have tried to make your own little pool.
tim pool
I lived in a building.
OK, if I lived in a building inside Jez, I would block off my sidewalk and say, don't come near me.
I live here, and you're the conquerors coming to steal my land, bigot colonizer.
And I would scream colonizer in their faces, and I would just scream at the top of my lungs.
You ever see those videos where, there's like a viral video right now, where these cops are trying to talk to some woman?
adam crigler
Yes, I've seen that.
tim pool
And then she just goes...
unidentified
And the cops are like, bye!
adam crigler
Which one?
There's like a million of those videos.
You know, let's just talk about that for a second.
What is with these people who think, oh, I don't like what you're saying.
I am now going to scream at you on the top of my lungs over and over and over again.
How is that your argument?
How is that logical?
tim pool
I don't, what I, so listen, man.
When I was, when I was little, I, I, uh, when I was little, when I was younger, I got arrested skateboarding.
And you know what I did when they went to arrest me?
adam crigler
What did they do?
tim pool
They, they walk up, grabbed my arm.
You know what I did as soon as I grabbed my arm?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Put my hands by my back.
They sat me down, they put me in cuffs.
They said, you're under arrest.
And I said, nothing.
adam crigler
Smart.
tim pool
I was just like, for what?
And they were like, you know, some, I don't know.
They said something stupid.
It makes sense.
And the cops came and I just didn't say anything.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then they tried giving me a felony.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Yup.
lydia smith
Did they tell you what it was?
tim pool
They said it was criminal damage to federal property because I was skateboarding downtown Chicago.
Oh my gosh.
That's stupid.
And so when it came time to actually go through processing, the cops were like, one cop was like, are you kidding me with this dude?
And he's like, give him damage to a state supported location or something, which is a misdemeanor.
And then when I finally went to court, the judge looked at me and he goes, he like, they called my name and he looks at me and he goes, Excuse me, what is this?
I don't know who spoke up.
I think it was the DA or the ADA or whatever.
And they were like, the defendant was skateboarding in downtown Chicago.
And then he goes, are you kidding me?
unidentified
And he goes, get out of my courtroom.
tim pool
And then he said like SOL or whatever, whatever.
I don't know what it meant.
It was like, they're just disregarding it, but they could bring it back if they want to.
adam crigler
That happened to me three times in New York.
Same thing, man.
tim pool
There's a reason I bring this up though.
Like a lot of the protest stuff that we're seeing, did you see what they did when a guy got accused of theft?
adam crigler
Who's they?
unidentified
In Chaz?
adam crigler
No, I didn't miss that.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
I didn't miss that.
tim pool
They surrounded the dude and started screaming, what did you do?
What did you do?
And he's saying, I didn't do anything.
I didn't do anything.
I said, why did you run?
Why did you run?
And someone's holding a baseball bat.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Listen, man, you do not want to be accused by a mob who can't prove anything.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because they'll just start wailing on you.
Like when, when that Raz dude, if only there was something like checks and
adam crigler
bounces and like a system that is in place to handle that kind of stuff.
tim pool
You know what I've noticed in a lot of these videos?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
And I know I'm gonna get accused of privilege and all that other stuff, man, but let me just start by saying, mixed-race family, South Side of Chicago, spare me and shove it.
When the cop would walk up to me and start talking, I wouldn't talk to him.
I'd just be like, I got nothing to say.
And if they pressed me or detained me, am I being detained?
And if I got arrested, you know what I did?
I got arrested a couple times.
You shut up, you put your hands behind your back, and you deal with it when you can.
Screaming and fighting and saying, for what?
adam crigler
For what?
tim pool
For what?
All that does, this is what I see in a lot of these videos.
The cops will walk up and they'll be like, what are you doing?
And then the people will be like, you can't talk to me!
I can do it!
And then now you're fighting with the cops.
Then the cops will be like, show me your ID.
And then they give them, you know, the bad mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
I get it, man.
The cops can't do some of these things.
The cops are allowed to detain you for a brief period.
They're allowed to detain you and trying to ascertain your identity, who you are, whatever.
Some of these, I think are, some of these stops you see in these videos, yeah, are complete BS.
But I gotta tell you what, a lot of these videos, people resist for no reason, in stupid ways.
And so, you know, what I was told when I was little, when I was like 14, I was basically assaulted by the security guard at this carnival, sitting at my friend's house.
He came up to my friend's house and started telling us to leave.
I guess he thought that we were like, carnival- From the carnival.
Yeah, but we weren't.
My friend was like, this is my house.
And he's like, I don't care, leave.
And he's like, what?
No, it's my house.
So the guy grabbed me, And started poking me, calling me stupid and whatever.
So I was like, I think I was like 14, I called my dad and said the guy grabbed me and like left a mark.
Turns out the guy was a retired cop.
And so what happened was when the police showed up, they walked up and said, we watched him walk up to the retired cop, start laughing, shake his hand.
The guy who assaulted me walked up to me and said, so do you want to get arrested for trespassing or do you want to go home now?
And we were like, what?
My dad was like, we'll leave.
And then as we're leaving, my dad was really angry.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like, we're going to go file a complaint with Internal Affairs.
And I was like, but that's just it.
He gets away with it.
And he goes, yep.
Because in the real world, you got to choose your battles.
Do you want to spend the next three or four days dealing with bad cops who are going to
mess with you?
And or are you going to walk away, use your time properly and not get into a fight with
people who happen to be bad and abusing the system?
lydia smith
That is smart.
tim pool
So he filed a complaint, and that was the end of it.
And they probably got away with it.
And you know what?
It sucks.
But I learned something that day.
My dad said, choose your battles.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Because you might feel you're justified, you might feel you're right, but they have power, and they will use it, and you gotta be smart about how you respond.
So later in my life, when I got arrested, I shut up, let them do their thing, and then afterwards, I win.
That's it.
A lot of people under these situations thinking, I, I'm high and mighty, you can't do this, this is America, whatever.
It's like, bro, they can lie.
And people will side with them.
I'm not saying it should be this way.
I'm saying if you don't realize what the game is, and you try and enter this because you think you're better and you think you'll win, you're an idiot.
You ever see that video where the two guys are like, it's like, they're like, I don't know, Italians or whatever?
And they're like, what do you do when a cop talks to you?
Shut the up.
And I was like, they keep saying it over and over again.
It's hilarious.
What if a cop says, where are you from?
Shut the up.
What if he says, what'd you have for lunch?
adam crigler
You shut the up.
tim pool
And there's another video where guys like, if you're ever stopped by a cop, you say,
I don't answer questions.
That's it.
Nothing else.
They ask you again.
I don't answer questions.
So you got to understand why the system is in place.
There was like this thing written up by a Supreme Court Justice talking about why you never talk to law enforcement, ever, under any circumstances, period.
And people don't get it.
They think that, oh, but I'm not a suspect, so I can help them out.
You don't know if you're a suspect or not.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And then they can use whatever against you.
So, you know, man, I've been contacted by law enforcement over the past several years.
I just ignore it.
I'm not gonna talk to you.
Sorry, man.
You guys created this lopsided system, and this is how the game is played.
Anyway, without going off on too much of a tangent, at least you have recourse, right?
adam crigler
Well, everything you just said proves that the police department needs a reform.
tim pool
I completely agree.
adam crigler
And that isn't even a question.
We all believe that.
tim pool
But listen, listen.
The reason I bring that up is to point out that you might not like the fact that cops use arrests as punishment.
They do that in New York City.
adam crigler
Yeah, they do.
tim pool
They know that they can arrest you for anything and make up whatever they want, and then the charges will be dropped and you'll be let out in two days or whatever, but they know that's punishment to you.
And they know people are scared of it.
It was a big problem during Occupy Wall Street.
They literally just snatched someone up.
I watched them pull up in cars and just grab a guy.
And they were like, what?
Yep.
So yeah, there definitely needs to be reform, for sure.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
But you know, there doesn't need to be the abolition of the police department because they have problems.
Because then what ends up happening is you see this video where they surround a guy screaming at him like a bunch of morons who can't prove nothing and have no idea what happened, but they have a feeling.
Well, someone said it's him!
And then you get your teeth knocked out by some lunatics.
unidentified
That's scary.
adam crigler
For doing nothing.
tim pool
Yeah, at the very least, what I'm saying is Right now, you have mob justice, or you have a pretty crummy system.
Not the worst in the world, but it's got some problems.
Actually, I'd say it's relatively good compared to most other countries.
So when I got arrested and they lied, I won in the end.
And I got jammed up, and it took me a long time, and I had to spend money I didn't have.
The skateboarding one was nothing.
I consider it a false arrest because riding a skateboard around Chicago is like a petty offense.
But they wanted to make an example of skateboarders, I guess.
So they decided to lock me up overnight.
And that was the worst of it.
Then I had to take off a day of work or something, go to court.
Yeah, and it cost me money.
And the judge threw it out.
If I had started screaming and saying, you know, you can't do this to me, you're lying, blah, blah, blah, and fighting with them, they would have added on a ton of ridiculous charges.
And then I would have been jammed up for a lot longer.
So you have your choice between This is how policing was for me in Chicago.
I could choose that, or I could choose a bunch of angry, pitchfork-wielding, you know, mobs to go around smashing windows and screaming in my face about what I did wrong, because they know, they know.
Because someone said.
I'll take my chances with the cops and try and work on reform.
adam crigler
Yeah, and Chaz has existed for, what, four days?
Five days now?
And they're already declaring mob justice.
unidentified
Yeah, that's great.
tim pool
It's worse in every regard over there.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a scary place.
tim pool
And you know what the problem is?
I'm sure there are people who live there who are unhappy.
adam crigler
Definitely.
And scared.
tim pool
But they can't say anything.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're scared.
tim pool
If they say anything, the activists will find out, they'll call them bigots, white supremacists, or whatever, they'll lose their jobs.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But they gotta do it.
Man, if I was there, I kinda wish I did.
I kinda wish I had a place.
No, you don't.
Oh, I do.
Are you nuts?
I'd love it.
adam crigler
No, you wouldn't.
tim pool
Yes, I would.
adam crigler
I don't believe you.
tim pool
You're wrong.
You're 100% wrong.
You are absolutely wrong.
adam crigler
You're telling me I'm wrong for not believing you.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Absolutely.
adam crigler
Nice, dude.
tim pool
You are.
unidentified
100%.
adam crigler
My belief is my belief.
tim pool
I traveled the world going into places like this on purpose for a decade.
adam crigler
Yeah, I believe that.
tim pool
And I would absolutely enjoy these people trying to get up in my business and block down my building and tell me what I can or can't do.
adam crigler
This is me laughing at you for not saying no to my beliefs.
tim pool
You have a factless, non-backed up opinion on what I've done with my life and what I would want and what I would do.
So it seems to me ridiculous that you would try and claim I wouldn't enjoy something I literally did for a decade.
adam crigler
I'm just saying I don't believe that you would.
tim pool
That I would what?
adam crigler
Enjoy it.
tim pool
Absolutely would.
adam crigler
I know you're saying it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Well, you're wrong.
Completely wrong.
I would enjoy it.
I'm telling you right now, I would, and I would.
I purposefully went down to Occupy Wall Street.
I went to the West Coast for their occupations.
I went to Egypt.
I went to Ukraine.
I went to Venezuela.
I went to Morocco.
I went to Brazil.
I went to Turkey.
I went to all these countries to see exactly what they were doing and get on the ground and experience what was going on.
If I lived there, I'd be very, very happy.
unidentified
I'm working on something else right now.
tim pool
If they occupied my street, I'd have a go of it.
I'd say, I'd walk up and tell the people blocking the barricades, in less friendly terms, move.
And don't come back.
Period.
Who are you?
I'm the guy who lives right there.
Yeah, end of story.
And if they wanted to assert their chaziness, and I live there... Chaziness?
unidentified
Yeah, their chaziness, but this is the Chaz Autonomous Zone, I'll be like, well, I'll tell you what, buddy.
tim pool
You're gonna have to beat the crap out of me to stop me from taking this space as mine.
End of story.
You can't come into my place, colonizer, and take my home away from me.
Yeah, and I'd point the finger at all the stupid white lefties who think they have the right to take the land away from the people who actually live there.
Now, let's be real, though.
I think most of these people, they live in Seattle.
They're in Capitol Hill.
It's a hipster neighborhood.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're probably dancing in their little sundresses and having a good time and going, woohoo!
adam crigler
We don't have to pay rent anymore.
We could just tent in this grassy area.
lydia smith
Yeah, we don't have to worry.
adam crigler
You see all the tents that are popping up?
tim pool
Yeah, but the people who live in the buildings are probably, like, clapping and happy.
adam crigler
No, I don't know about that.
tim pool
I think so.
I think the businesses might be upset over the attempts at shaking them down.
But, dude, I lived in Seattle briefly.
I'd hang out in Capitol Hill.
Those people, like I've been to this park, these people are, they're hipsters, man.
adam crigler
That's what they look like.
tim pool
Right, this is right up their alley.
It's probably why it's allowed to stay there right now, because No one's complaining.
lydia smith
It's not a threat.
tim pool
There's no locals to be like, hey, you know, get out of here.
adam crigler
They're not burning the city down.
The governor's probably like, oh, good.
Let them just have that spot.
So they they stopped burning down the city.
tim pool
There was something funny that happened, though.
There was some women from the African-American Council or something from the local.
They like liaise with the police, showed up and complained that these people were hijacking Black Lives Matter.
Yeah, I did see that video.
They're correct!
white people yet to see that video claiming they're there for a black lives matter yeah and
the black women are like
putting taxes on amazon is up to do with black lives matter they flew them down
adam crigler
their credit is people not just i think you see the dumpster fire that little
tim pool
No, there's a dumpster fire.
lydia smith
Like literal dumpster fire?
adam crigler
Or just Chaz in general?
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
Straight up literal dumpster fire.
And you know what they did?
You wanna guess?
lydia smith
What'd they do?
adam crigler
I bet you can guess.
lydia smith
Oh, ran away?
Called the fire department.
Called the police.
adam crigler
They called the Seattle Fire Department.
lydia smith
Of course they did.
adam crigler
Can you please come and put out this fire that we lit up?
lydia smith
This autonomous fire?
tim pool
Here you go.
adam crigler
Here you go.
tim pool
Here you go, Seattle.
Check this out.
Check this out right here.
Look at this.
lydia smith
Alright, here we go.
unidentified
Look.
tim pool
r slash Seattle on Reddit.
Car tires slashed.
Now what?
Really?
Why?
God, three tires slashed parked outside my apartment in West Capitol Hill.
Was this targeted?
I don't live that close to protests and park off street.
Didn't see any of their cars affected.
I don't think anyone hates me enough to do this or maybe my downstairs neighbor because I've been doing at home HIIT workouts.
Thoughts?
Happened to anyone else out there?
Do you think it's random?
I feel kind of unsafe now and I'm also not sure about parking my car there once I get it fixed.
What do I do next?
unidentified
Have you tried calling the police?
tim pool
File the police report, but without cameras you can't prove anything.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
There you go, man.
So this person doesn't live in the zone, right?
It's just a good example of people who are in Capitol Hill who are like, help, help, police, I'm being repressed.
Yeah.
So what do they do when they have problems?
It's like every video we've seen when, like, these protesters are throwing stuff and then a guy jumps out of his car with a weapon.
Call the cops!
unidentified
Call the cops!
Help!
Help!
tim pool
That's how you know they're playing games.
They're playing rebels and revolutionaries.
They throw stuff.
They yell, F the police.
They put up a big sign.
I love this.
They said, this building is the property of the Seattle people now or something like that.
It always was.
I don't know what changed.
adam crigler
It's still Seattle, isn't it?
tim pool
And it was still community funded?
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
These people don't understand what communism is.
They don't.
They don't understand what socialism is.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
So they're like, the police are an oppressive force.
And what do you think you would get if you had communism?
Do you think there would be no police?
adam crigler
Do you think, like... It'd be way worse.
lydia smith
So much worse.
tim pool
They seem to think, like, each and every one of these people, these communists, believe that if communism is implemented, they're the party leader.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll be the boss.
won't affect well no I'm gonna be the leader I'm not gonna have to work yep
you have to work the farms now yeah like no no no everyone would go out and work
tim pool
farms and I try I try warning my dumb friends who are probably listen to this
and it'd be like is he talking about me because they don't understand what
happens after you you get your socialist or communist revolution right
Do you know who they're going to go after first?
These violent lefties.
Far left.
Authoritarians.
All of a sudden, your mass protest sparks an opportunity for a literal revolution.
And now you've got authoritarian communists in control.
They're going to purge the liberal intellectuals, like you on Twitter, because you were the one who fomented the revolution in the first place.
Get it?
adam crigler
Yep.
They don't want it to happen again.
tim pool
Exactly.
They need to make sure that any revolutionary who would stop their takeover is put down first.
lydia smith
And you need to make an example of them, right?
tim pool
What do you mean?
lydia smith
Like, you need to come down on them heavily, I would think.
tim pool
So that everyone knows.
lydia smith
So that everyone knows this can't happen again.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, I've been told this is a big thing that they've done historically.
You know, like reading about communist revolutions.
And they immediately say, now that we've won, this writer and this intellectual who helped create the atmosphere that generated revolution needs to die.
And so I was talking to my friends and I'm like, let's think about this for two seconds.
Like, let's entertain this idea.
Who are they more concerned about?
The conservatives who keep their mouths shut and hide in their homes?
Or the liberals who are out demanding revolution?
The bigger threat are the people who are willing to get up and demand a revolution.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
So liberals get the bullet too, they say.
And that's, you know, when I was reading about the Spanish Civil War and, you know, Weimar Germany, or is it Weimar Germany?
If you're a moderate.
Everybody hates you.
target liberals.
Like John Cleese said in that segment, if you're a moderate,
if you're a moderate, they're coming for you.
adam crigler
Everybody hates you.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But for the left, they need to weed out the competition.
They need to make sure that no one challenges them.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And there's a similar example of this because it's
probably true of any takeover.
If the communists take over and it's the left, they purge their own faction.
But in Egypt, when they had the second revolution and they got rid of Morsi, They went and started just gunning down Muslim Brotherhood.
So what happened in Egypt was they had the first revolution where Mubarak got pulled out and he was the military leader and then they had an election.
The Muslim Brotherhood won because they were the biggest voting bloc and they just vote for whatever the Muslim Brotherhood said.
This resulted in the overwhelming majority of the country rejecting this again and the protest continued because they mostly wanted a secular government.
So then they finally, I was there for this, when they finally removed Morsi, and then, like, I'm watching the APCs roll up, and people are riding on them, and they shut the bridges down, it was nuts.
They got their revolution.
Then, because the Muslim Brotherhood would not stop the, you know, protests, the military just went out and started shooting live rounds at anybody who kept protesting.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, so the people who initially fought for the revolution even won their position, Then got removed again.
So it's not, it's not, it's not the exact same type of scenario.
But if you are the type of person that won't allow the revolution to take place, like you, you started, they're going to come for you.
They're going to come right for you and be like, you were part of the problem.
How many conservatives right now are out protesting?
Not that many.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
Most of the moderates and the conservatives are in their homes, preparing for themselves, taking care of themselves.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
People don't know their names.
But you've got a big list of revolutionaries, and they're all on the left.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Yeah, so when these lunatics take over, yeah, they're going to go for the counterrevolutionaries for sure.
So, you know, there are a lot of conservatives who are high profile who would be targeted by them if and when they ever, you know, if slash when they ever did get power.
But for the most part, you have a much bigger list, I believe, of like lefty intellectual revolutionary types who want power.
So it goes back to the point we were making.
All of these people seem to think they're going to be dear leader.
That they're going to be privileged in the party when the takeover happens.
And you look at what happens in the Chazz.
Some random dude takes over, declares himself the new police, and everyone else is going, oh no!
Oh no, what do we do?
adam crigler
I guess that's the way it is now.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
So I'll put it this way.
Let's say you've got a hundred soy boy intellectual types who are on Twitter right now tweeting like, this is the revolution, it's time for us to rise up.
These people have no capability whatsoever to lead, to be in charge, but there are going to be some physically fit, trained, insurrectionary leftists.
lydia smith
Not good people.
tim pool
Not good people.
They've got weapons.
They're zealots.
And they're going to be like, who's my biggest threat?
These people want my power.
They helped start the revolution in the first place.
I think we need, we know who needs to go first.
That's why they spray painted on the wall in Berkeley.
Liberals get the bullet too.
They're not going to meet.
Look, if they defeat the, so it's like the assumption is they defeat whatever side they need you to win.
And then they have to figure out which, which undesirables go first.
It's the ones who have influence and would challenge your power.
Not the dude sitting in his house clutching his gun saying, leave me alone.
And that's what you can expect if the jazz expands.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I'm half kidding.
I don't, I don't think, uh, apparently they're trying to do something in Portland.
Did you see the video?
Uh, what?
They're now trying to create a bunch of, uh, Chazz-like states across the country.
So, like, Nashville's gonna try and do it.
lydia smith
Yes, on Nashville.
tim pool
In Portland, they grabbed a barbed wire fence and, like, tried to create a barricade.
adam crigler
I did see that, yeah.
tim pool
They're, like, trying to take over.
I guess it failed.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I love how they love border walls now, though.
Seems to be, like, their thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Sounds like they work.
Crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, man, but it seems all performative.
They're playing a game, but they don't realize that the prizes are real.
Or maybe they don't think they're playing a game.
Maybe they actually think it's the revolution, and they're just really dumb.
lydia smith
It's so sad.
adam crigler
It's pathetic.
lydia smith
I feel bad for them.
tim pool
On the Chaz subreddit, there's a thread now about how everyone's making fun of their garden and trying to give advice to fix it.
Yeah, something like that.
adam crigler
How about get rid of all of the grass in that entire field, turn that entire field into a garden, because you're going to need Yeah.
That much, that's probably not even gonna be enough.
tim pool
It's not even enough.
lydia smith
I have an idea.
unidentified
Not even.
adam crigler
Not even enough.
lydia smith
Here's my idea.
Here's my idea for them.
They need to go back in time, about two and a half months, plant everything when it's supposed to be planted, in the way that it's supposed to be planted, and then maybe they might have enough food for like half the people.
adam crigler
There we go.
tim pool
Well, it's Seattle.
Winters in Seattle aren't known for being very, very cold.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I remember I was in Seattle, man, what was this?
14 years ago?
13 years ago?
And it snowed.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
And then the whole city shut down and people were panicking.
adam crigler
It's cold there today.
tim pool
Because the hills.
So man the hills in Seattle are steep.
That's true, and when it rains.
It's like Sometimes it was like one time.
I was raining so hard and slippery I had trouble actually walking up the hill so I lived in in Fremont Which is what is that like north of Queen Anne?
I think I'm not entirely sure I need to walk everyone to see this big hill It was at the 26th Street bridge.
It's been No idea.
lydia smith
This sounds right?
tim pool
Yes.
Yes.
Maybe I can pull up this map and look at where it was.
So yeah, it was right here, I think.
Right here.
unidentified
Is this it?
tim pool
Is that 26?
Aurora Bridge?
I lived like right over here.
Okay, maybe I'm wrong about the name of the bridge.
It was the Aurora Bridge.
So I had to walk up right here, and there's a steep, steep hill.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it'd be raining.
When it snowed, everybody was panicking because the cars would just slide down the hill.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh!
tim pool
So they couldn't handle a little bit of snow.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
So what do you think's gonna happen if it gets cold?
unidentified
I don't know if it'll get cold or whatever, but... I guess it rained.
tim pool
If this makes it to winter, I think we're gonna have a lot of... Get your popcorn ready.
adam crigler
It's like... My popcorn's been ready.
I've been enjoying my popcorn all year long.
tim pool
Are you eating the popcorn?
I'm already eating it.
adam crigler
Don't worry, I know how to make more popcorn.
tim pool
Here's what you gotta be careful of.
adam crigler
Oh, do tell me, Tim.
tim pool
You see, what the Chaz is, is basically like, it's like a Venus's fly trap.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You know?
You see this sweetness, and it attracts you to it, and then, grrr, grabs you, right?
adam crigler
There's a delicious nectar smell in the air.
tim pool
Yes, yes, what is it?
And so what I mean by this is, when you watch the, when you look at the photos and the videos of their desperate, pathetic attempts at whatever it is they're doing, like putting potted plants on top of dirt in the middle of a park, you laugh.
And then you let your guard down.
And then the crazy people expand their borders, and that's the trick.
That's the adaptation to survive.
Convincing you they're harmless, so you ignore them while they expand, take more territory, and spread out.
That's actually, I mean, to be real, to be honest, that is a real concern I have.
That people are going to be laughing at them the whole time.
Other people, I think, are over-hyping it, you know, everything.
Like, oh man, look what they're doing.
But I do think there's a possibility that this could get worse.
If they don't keep it under control, what's to stop them from moving the barriers out and just taking more space?
adam crigler
Well, I guess it's only going until the 20th.
So says the governor.
lydia smith
Yeah, but you didn't know about it the other day.
I don't know.
adam crigler
No, you're right.
I don't know what exactly that end date means, but I don't know.
It is kind of weird that they would have an end date.
Why?
tim pool
It's Friday?
I think tomorrow and Sunday might be really, really interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because the economy is opening back up.
I know a lot of people are out of work, but typically weekends always light up for these things.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So during Occupy Wall Street, when I first arrived, it was during the week, there was nothing there.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Nobody there.
I kid you not, it was like 10 people.
And so it was me and a bunch of other people standing under a tarp in the rain and some like ranking cop walks up in a trench, you know, in like a raincoat and he waves and he laughs and he's like, he's like, good luck.
And he walks off.
There was nobody in the park.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It was just like the remnants of the first, you know, few days of Occupy.
Because I got there on like day four or something.
But then that weekend, a thousand, two thousand people, some ridiculous number showed up.
adam crigler
You gotta understand... That wouldn't surprise me if that's what's happening, like, right now.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
I mean, you even said it, like, people around the country are probably flocking to Chaz.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
To become Chaz citizens.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
You know, and have their true freedom, I guess.
tim pool
And what happens when they add another two hundred people?
lydia smith
Could be bad.
adam crigler
Well, that farm isn't going to be enough.
tim pool
They're going to have to press their borders.
They're going to need more space.
And so all they got to do is move the barricade up.
So interestingly, in one article I read from the Daily Mail, the new map they have actually shows expanded territory.
lydia smith
Oh.
tim pool
So the original map showed they only had half of the park.
The new map shows they've taken the whole park and barricaded around it.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
But I don't know if that's true.
lydia smith
I hope not.
tim pool
But what would stop them?
unidentified
What's going to stop them?
adam crigler
Doesn't seem like the government in Washington cares at all.
lydia smith
What else is going on?
tim pool
There's a possibility.
adam crigler
Oh, they know what's going on.
lydia smith
You think so?
adam crigler
Yeah, I think he knew what was going on when that reporter asked him, and he was like, oh, what's that now?
Did you have a good source?
A reputable source, he said?
What?
How do you not notice?
It's deniability.
He's like, I don't know anything about it, so I'm good.
Yeah, he knew exactly what they were talking about.
Come on.
tim pool
What happens if the first few days, it's been five days, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so people have to get, they need time to get there.
And you've got a small handful of like John Brown gun club.
But CNN did this report where they said there's a potential for bloodshed if they try to remove him.
adam crigler
Or what about when the next potential warlord comes and goes, Raz, you're not doing a good job.
lydia smith
Then what?
adam crigler
No one elected you.
No one's gonna elect me.
I'm warlord now.
tim pool
Then what?
No, but what happens when that guy who shows up actually has five guys with long guns?
adam crigler
And then people start getting shot.
Where do those people go?
tim pool
Well, what happens right now if somebody walked in?
Well, what would happen right now if somebody walked in there and said, look at me.
I'm in charge now.
And they said, no.
And then he went, I'm in charge now.
And what are they going to do?
They're going to be like, OK, OK, OK.
lydia smith
Yes, you are.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
What are they going to do?
What are they going to do?
Nothing.
adam crigler
That's what I fear.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Is any of these John Brown gun club people going to shoot the guy?
Nope.
I really doubt it.
adam crigler
They might cock their weapons and be like, no you're not.
tim pool
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
adam crigler
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But I sense something like that coming soon.
tim pool
You think?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean they've already drawn weapons on people apparently.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
The Raz crew apparently pulled a gun or something.
adam crigler
I've seen them beat people up already.
There's videos surfacing of them fighting amongst themselves now.
It's only a matter of time before someone says, you're not doing a good enough job, Raz.
I'm taking over.
tim pool
Well, that's already happening.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
They're trying to get rid of him.
But they're going in the other direction.
They're trying to, like, get rid of him in general, not replace him.
adam crigler
Oh, sure.
tim pool
But here's what I'm thinking, man.
adam crigler
Until he's gone and then gets replaced.
tim pool
What would happen if, you know, you've got people probably traveling there from across the country right now, far left crazies who are armed and want revolution.
adam crigler
And they want to be in charge.
tim pool
And what happens if they show up and say, nah, we're doing this?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
This is the best chance, period. Shut up.
All the people who are there, what are they going to do?
Are they going to leave?
Are they going to be like, hmmm?
Or are they going to be like, okay.
adam crigler
I think a lot of them will leave, yeah.
tim pool
But then if you've created a space where a bunch of people can come in,
it's possible that these far lefties do it in the right way.
If they come in with weapons, start shooting people, then it's over.
Instantly over.
Trump's gonna send in the military, and people will beg and thank him for it.
But if all of these people start flocking to Chazz, and then all they really do is push the barricade up 10 feet in each direction, No one will do anything.
No one will say anything.
adam crigler
Once a day.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Every day, push it up 10 feet.
And then start taking more and more space.
adam crigler
Well, it feels like a lot of the citizens of Washington that don't live in Seattle are like, have at it.
lydia smith
Who cares?
adam crigler
They've been upset with the way that the government's been handling that state anyway.
So it's like, I have a feeling, like, states are gonna start seceding, splitting up.
The divided states of America is coming, if that's the case.
tim pool
Nah, I doubt it.
I doubt it.
I think the sentiment, perhaps.
adam crigler
I mean, they already wanted to, though.
tim pool
Which one?
adam crigler
They were already talking about cutting ties with Seattle.
tim pool
Oh, the state of Jefferson.
adam crigler
Yeah.
They're like, we don't want anything to do with these people anyway.
tim pool
But these are the conservatives.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Saying, get out of here.
lydia smith
Silent, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
These are people who... So the crazy left people that live there, they're all gonna live in harmony until... You know what annoys me?
A certain warlord... You know what annoys me?
Comes along.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
They never do anything.
You've got basically 99% of the territory of Washington is conservative.
Now, the population-wise, they have the big city of Seattle, which is overwhelmingly progressive.
Who's happy with any of it?
And why can't they just say, we're done?
You take your city, we're done.
Same thing for New York.
adam crigler
That's what I'm, that's what I think is going to happen.
tim pool
There was, there was somebody sent me a message saying that they advocate for the blue cities becoming their own jurisdictions and separating away from the conservative areas.
Otherwise there will be bloodshed.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
That actually makes sense.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But then what do you, how do you, how do you govern that?
lydia smith
How does that work?
tim pool
Yeah.
These cities would collapse overnight.
adam crigler
Well, first step, get rid of the police.
Well, they got that done.
lydia smith
And then they would collapse.
adam crigler
So, what's next?
All the businesses are leaving.
The businesses are already leaving.
They actually left already.
So, now they're going to have no businesses and no police force.
What is there going to be?
It's not a city anymore.
unidentified
It's not.
adam crigler
It's a shell.
Everyone's leaving.
tim pool
They're being flattened.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Okay.
So, it just becomes a regular town.
tim pool
Nah, dude.
unidentified
Not even.
tim pool
You know what's going to happen in Minneapolis?
We talked about Detroit, right?
Chicago is talking about- I think I have this right here.
Chicago mayor considers property tax hikes as residents fear exodus from city.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's gonna make people want to stay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They have no choice.
unidentified
They have no choice.
adam crigler
Why?
They don't have a choice?
They can't leave if they want to?
tim pool
The city has no choice.
They have to raise the taxes.
The infrastructure to run the trains does not go down the cost of it.
adam crigler
The more they do that, the more people will leave.
lydia smith
That's a cycle.
adam crigler
The more they do that, the more people will leave.
And it's going to continue and continue until no one lives there anymore.
tim pool
Just like Detroit.
adam crigler
Hey Chicago, you're doing it wrong.
tim pool
Yep.
But there's nothing they can do.
They're in a trap.
They have no idea how to escape.
adam crigler
It's quicksand.
tim pool
And they're struggling and they're sinking faster and faster and faster.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
That's gonna happen.
So Minneapolis says, we're getting rid of our police.
Everyone desperately tries to sell.
You know what's crazy, man?
Could you imagine, if you finally saved up, you know, you turn 30, and you're like, I got, you know, I got like 20 grand saved up for a down payment, finally, after all these years, and that's probably not a lot of people who have that.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You then buy, you buy in Minneapolis, you know, it's your town, it's your city, and you buy a nice little house.
Now the whole city is in chaos.
The police department is being abolished and you're like, can I sell?
And then you look at the property value and it's down 70%.
adam crigler
You lost basically all your money.
tim pool
Everything.
Gone.
And now you're underwater.
You owe more than the house is worth.
You can never leave.
Dude, these people don't understand.
And then the property value tanks, and then the taxes tank with it, and then the city starts making no revenue, and then the water lines fall apart.
So they tap into water nearby, which is full of Legionnaire's disease and whatever else diseases.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Just like Flint.
adam crigler
And then the majority of people that are lower class increases.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
The money funnels through to the richest people, which is what they're supposed to be fighting.
tim pool
No, the rich just walk away.
adam crigler
Well, no.
They're sitting pretty in their comfortable palaces, wherever that is.
It's not in the cities.
Certainly not in Minneapolis.
tim pool
Even the people who own good real estate in the city, like penthouses and stuff, they don't care.
So like, oh, our water bill went up another $300.
Whatever.
adam crigler
Doesn't mean anything to me.
They don't care.
It makes no difference to them.
tim pool
But considering all the chaos and the violence, They, as soon as this happened, a lot of these listings are probably like investment properties, you know, or companies, you know, from, from, from companies or something.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe rental properties.
I'm sure some of them are people who actually live there.
I think most of them are probably people fleeing.
But that's, that's the thing that people don't realize, like, because I also did a, there's a story came out that private security is skyrocketing.
adam crigler
Right.
Yeah, I've been seeing this.
tim pool
Because people, you know, because of the chaos.
adam crigler
So the people that can afford it are just getting their own private security.
lydia smith
That's how that works.
tim pool
Yeah.
So here's the meme is they vote to abolish the police.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Rich people then hire private security.
Then the left starts complaining about how the poor people have no security and demand security for all.
lydia smith
Universal private security.
tim pool
Universal security.
And then they've invented the police.
adam crigler
Boom.
The police force.
tim pool
Everyone has a right to police.
lydia smith
Correct.
Yeah.
tim pool
This is what they don't understand as they burn their city to the ground.
They're going to get a rude awakening in the fact that they don't make anything.
adam crigler
You know, that's a good point.
That's why I'm looking at these the farms and I'm like, man, they have no idea what it takes to live on your own.
tim pool
If the blues by yourself, if the blue areas of this country got cut off from the red areas, they would implode.
adam crigler
They would.
tim pool
They would just completely implode.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
People talk about California.
California produces a third of our agriculture or something like that, right?
adam crigler
Do you hear the truckers?
The trucker union is going, we're not gonna drive into cities that don't have police.
lydia smith
Yeah, why would you?
adam crigler
No, we're done.
We will not deliver to those cities.
It's like, okay, well, that's how those cities get everything.
So you're not gonna get anything anymore.
Have fun.
lydia smith
Trucker strike.
Trucker strike is the final.
That's it.
adam crigler
There's no coming back from that.
You don't want the truckers working for you?
Well, good luck.
tim pool
Well, look at the trucker who tried in, uh, what was it?
Where was that?
Was that L.A.?
lydia smith
I think it was L.A., yeah.
tim pool
They pulled him out, they beat him up, they took his phone and opened it up and looked through his texts.
And then someone said something like, you know, are you going to do this run?
And he says, you know, I'm going to have to do it because nobody else will.
They took that and tried to make it seem like he was actually saying, I'm going to run them over because no one else will.
What he was really saying is that this payload that needs to be delivered, nobody wants to do it because of the protests, but I'll take it.
adam crigler
And then has to give them the food get them get these people well
tim pool
I think it was like some liquid it was like a man the truckers are like the blood of America are the light literally
adam crigler
See they are yeah, I got a buddy of who's a trucker in Chicago. It's like man. They they do so much work
tim pool
Yeah, zoom out look at look United States and zoom out on Google Maps
Mm-hmm and look at all of the interstate roads You know and imagine all the little trucks like red blood
cells carrying oxygen and much needed supplies to the cities
adam crigler
Exactly.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
They don't get it, man.
We we drove across the country for the Rogan podcast during the pandemic.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And truckers were still out doing their thing like totally normal.
adam crigler
Yeah, keeping the production line.
Keeping us all alive.
tim pool
There's no food with no truckers.
There's no skateboards.
There's no shoes.
adam crigler
Nothing.
tim pool
And then I'll tell you what, man.
I ordered a bunch of shirts.
Many of you may notice I'm wearing a different color shirt.
adam crigler
He is, yes.
Oh, they noticed him.
tim pool
I actually ordered a bunch of shirts, right?
lydia smith
All different colors.
tim pool
And they didn't come.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Like a month went by or longer.
lydia smith
So weird.
tim pool
And I'm like, this is kind of weird.
I wonder if they got looted.
And I got an email.
I got an email saying, you know, your shipment is delayed, we're so sorry.
Then, finally, like a month later, the box shows up.
I wonder if they got noticed, like, it was all looted in order to complete the order.
I don't know for sure, but what I do know is this.
I ordered a skate ramp, and I got an email saying specifically because of Antifa, they were delayed because the warehouse had to be evacuated due to Antifa rioting.
adam crigler
Like, that's all they gave you?
They didn't give any details?
Man, I would have had so many questions.
tim pool
They said, I got an email.
It basically said, due to antifa activity, warehouse was evacuated.
We were unable to complete the order.
We're hoping to get it to you as soon as possible, but it could be, it's going to be delayed now a couple weeks.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I saw that an email started laughing.
I'm like, due to Antifa activities.
I guess I can only imagine that the PR department or like the sales department for this company is going like, how do we explain this to people?
lydia smith
Somebody got mad.
adam crigler
What do we say?
tim pool
How do we explain to them that their order can't come in?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And what Antifa is?
Dude, you know what, man?
I don't know.
But I see these videos.
Of people with skateboards whacking people.
adam crigler
I see that too.
tim pool
I don't believe they're skateboarders.
adam crigler
You don't think so?
I don't think so either.
tim pool
I do not believe they're skateboarders.
unidentified
Nah.
lydia smith
That's a handy weapon.
adam crigler
Maybe a few of them are.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But... Posers.
lydia smith
You think so?
tim pool
I think... Supreme wearers.
I think they ride skateboards.
adam crigler
All supremed out.
lydia smith
Supremed out.
tim pool
What I mean is... They're probably people who have skateboards.
They're definitely not people who know how to do skateboard tricks.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's it.
tim pool
Maybe a little bit here and there.
adam crigler
They're the ones that are like, you see them get on their board and they like, struggle to find their balance and then ride straight, stiff, like, yeah, I'm a skateboarder, I'm riding.
tim pool
Or they just cruise around.
adam crigler
I'm riding, I'm riding.
No, they don't really even know to do that.
tim pool
They can go straight.
Some of the boards I saw were like, really old, destroyed boards.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And that says to me, they're not part of the culture in the community.
adam crigler
Yeah, true.
tim pool
I've seen skateboarders get into fights with security guards, but typically skateboarders are like... I don't know.
They flee.
When conflict arises, they jump on your board, you get out.
Unless, of course, you're trying to get that trick at that one spot.
adam crigler
Well, you can't start a fight and then want the trick.
tim pool
Here's the other thing, too.
Of all the skateboarders I know who are legit skateboarders, nobody wants to break their board.
lydia smith
Absolutely not.
tim pool
Who's going to whack someone with your board?
It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
lydia smith
You'd punch somebody before you use your board, right?
tim pool
Especially not a cop.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Definitely not.
tim pool
Skateboarders are way too apathetic to do this, right?
The most I've seen from skateboarders is, during all this Black Lives Matter stuff, is, like, the barracks.
You know the barracks?
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
For those that aren't familiar, it's a big skate website and skate park.
They've been posting a ton of stuff.
And you know what the most they're doing is?
They're posting clips from famous black pro skateboarders that are, like, great clips.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're just doing the normal thing you see from the PR, like, you know, we're trying to, you know, prop up some, you know, skaters in the community and keep, make you aware of, like, their skills or whatever, and I'm like, skateboarding's skateboarding to me, I don't care.
adam crigler
They're good skaters.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not necessarily a fan because all I care about when I watch is, are they doing good tricks?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's all that matters to me.
If they, if they started putting up people who are, like, really bad at skateboarding, I'd be like, come on, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, you don't gotta play, no, but they're legit good skateboarders, they're getting really cool clips.
adam crigler
Yeah, I follow them.
tim pool
Is that it?
Yes.
You see these skateboarders going around whacking people, and I'm like, nah.
Uh-uh.
You're not a skateboarder.
There's one video going viral where they whack a cop.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm like, dude, no way, dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, in Miami, right?
tim pool
Is that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
And then there's a riot.
adam crigler
No, there's a few of the skaters, and it's like, he, I mean, they take the board, and they just freaking boom on the guy's head.
It's like...
That could kill somebody.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Are you trying to kill the man?
tim pool
Probably.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
Is that where Riot Bay was?
adam crigler
Uh, I'm not sure.
tim pool
Did you see the video going viral?
adam crigler
No, I don't know.
tim pool
It's like a very attractive Miami woman.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
She's a Riot cop.
tim pool
People are calling her Riot Bay.
lydia smith
They were using that.
tim pool
Riot Bay.
lydia smith
She was ready, man.
I respect that.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, man.
I don't know where we all go with this stuff, but, uh...
When you see the mortgages start spiking.
Cassandra Fairbanks, for instance.
Yeah, she left.
adam crigler
Where was she at anyway?
tim pool
DC, I'm pretty sure.
adam crigler
She was in DC.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't think she was anywhere near the protest or whatever.
I think she published an audio recording of when she called 911 and she's freaking out like they're shooting at my house.
Yeah, if you follow, I think her Twitter handle is CassRules, Cassandra Fairbanks.
She posted the audio recording of the 911 call when she called, and they're like, she's like, they're shooting in my house, what do I do?
She bugged out.
For obvious reasons.
adam crigler
Not surprising.
tim pool
The funny thing, though, is I'm seeing a bunch of people, like, posting on Facebook.
How many of you want to move to West Virginia?
Time to go!
I feel bad for West Virginia, you know why?
All these city folk moving and bringing their policies and their problems.
lydia smith
Oh gosh.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's what a lot of Texans are complaining about.
lydia smith
That's what Coloradans complain about nonstop.
adam crigler
So many Californians are moving to Texas.
unidentified
Yeah, they're all leaving California.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
What do you think?
unidentified
Do you think the Civil War boogaloo chaos?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Riots in the streets?
adam crigler
You don't think so?
No, I don't think so.
I think because they're going to finally meet the armed Americans that are like, you're not coming to our town.
You come into my house, I'm going to kill you.
Straight up.
They're going to hit that wall.
And then all of a sudden, they're going to start seeing others getting killed.
And they're like, oh, whoa.
But dude, we were just playing a game.
tim pool
No, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the Army MP, active duty, who killed a cop.
Oh god.
and said, you know, and then he wrote like in blood boogaloo or something.
Some ridiculous thing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And, and then, and then the other two guys who drove up to New York with a bunch of weapons.
And like, these people are, are saying like, we're here to make this happen or whatever.
And these are lefty guys.
Like they're the ones posting in support of black lives matter.
And maybe they're not really lefty.
Maybe they're just, you know, they want some kind of revolution or something.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
But there are a couple of guys here and there.
tim pool
Active duty.
adam crigler
I don't I don't see happening, man.
tim pool
So you've got these generals coming out and defying the president now and standing opposed to him.
adam crigler
Who's saying that?
tim pool
So we had what did we have?
adam crigler
Millie?
tim pool
No, we had three.
adam crigler
Millie just said I shouldn't have gone with him to the church.
That's all he said.
tim pool
And we had three, I think, three former Joint Chiefs spoke out against the President.
That he was a Nazi, and that he was a tyrant, and that he was abusing the rule of law, and things like that.
lydia smith
Counting heads?
adam crigler
But how?
tim pool
Is that all they said?
They wrote a huge thing up, and then they all started chiming in, and yeah, they wrote a ton of stuff about it.
And the issue isn't so much whether or not I guess now they're saying they could be recalled to active duty and then prosecuted or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
The issue isn't so much whether or not they're justified in saying it, but counting had started a long time ago.
adam crigler
Man, they prosecute, or they fired the Navy captain who said, hey, our ship is infected with COVID.
We're sick.
Well, yeah, but he came down on him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But the argument for that is he basically revealed a major secret of an entire aircraft carrier.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's that's, you know, five to six percent of our, you know, one eleventh of our aircraft carriers.
adam crigler
And that makes us as Americans seem weak, right?
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
That he came out and said.
adam crigler
Isn't that the reason he got in trouble?
tim pool
He got in trouble for exposing a whole military.
adam crigler
How is that not any different than these guys that are supposedly part of the military saying that kind of stuff?
lydia smith
Also makes us look weak.
tim pool
What do you mean?
adam crigler
How does that not make America look weak?
tim pool
That they're coming out and saying Trump is bad and all that stuff?
adam crigler
Well, I mean, they're not like a media company that just is saying it and everyone's used to it.
It's like actually military members that are saying it.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
It's bad.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Exactly.
So that's the point I'm making.
What happens if Trump wins?
And these people have already announced they stand against him?
And then what happens when Bill Barr starts saying, here's the indictments, and he actually names some people, and then the left claims Trump stole the election and cheated or something?
You already have, you know, riots across the country, you have this weird scenario where the media and the establishment is simultaneously... Right now, you've got the Chazz, where people are all sitting around each other watching movies, and what does CNN say?
Oh, it's peaceful, there's no Antifa here.
The New York Times says they've liberated the streets.
Then Trump announces, I want to have a rally, and they say, he's violating CDC guidelines.
They're burning, they're digitally burning books.
adam crigler
I'm so sick of these, the Democrats' double standards, man.
All I see is them trying to apply rules, saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, if Trump breaks these rules, we're gonna change it, and he's bad.
That's all I'm seeing.
tim pool
What do you think happens if Trump wins, and then the Democrats file a suit in the courts, and it goes to the Supreme Court, arguing that the suppression of mail-in voting was Trump bringing the election, and the Supreme Court sides with the Democrats and kicks Trump out?
Do you think people in America are going to be like, well, they're burning books, they're banning movies, they're banning art, and that's okay.
adam crigler
I don't think the American, the general, uh, like public thinks that.
That's actually what's happening right now, but it's, it's these little circles.
tim pool
Where are they?
adam crigler
They're not on Twitter.
They're not on, they're in their little bubbles, you know, rooting for Trump, just talking to their friends.
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to vote for Trump.
tim pool
And in the four years that Trump has been president, all this has gotten worse.
adam crigler
Yeah, because they hate him.
tim pool
So these people who are sitting in their homes, not speaking up, saying, yeah, yeah, I'm going to go vote for Trump, and then Trump gets elected, and four years later everything's worse, are they just going to go vote for Trump again, then it gets worse another four years?
adam crigler
I have no idea!
I don't know!
tim pool
When you combine all these things together, it looks like the powder keg is popping off.
I've seen, we've already seen Boogaloo Boys.
I don't even know if that's a real thing, but people, like, there's three dudes who got caught with a bunch of weapons recently.
And their only objective, it was not necessarily political, it was just to spark things.
Then you had two guys from Ohio who went to New York, got caught.
Then you had the active duty MP who went off and, you know, killed the deputy.
You had the van pull up in Oakland and shoot the cop.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, all of these things are happening.
lydia smith
Weren't those lawyers also handing out Molotov cocktails?
tim pool
Supposedly, yes.
They're saying they're handing out Molotovs.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Yeah, so when you see lawyers and regular people jumping to the front lines... Anybody, anybody can be brought past the edge to go crazy.
adam crigler
Anybody.
But just because there is a lawyer that went crazy doesn't mean all lawyers are gonna go crazy.
unidentified
Who said that?
adam crigler
Right, yeah.
No, I'm not I'm not saying anyone did say it.
I'm just making a point It's like just because we're seeing it happen that there's military people that are that kill the cop It's like okay that's happened in the past too.
You know, it'll combine all it'll probably happen again.
Sure.
tim pool
It's it's one thing when Dorner, you know writes a manifesto and says here's why I'm doing this right and it's isolated and It's another thing when you have in Oakland, St.
Louis, Las Vegas, Minneapolis, these ambush attacks on cops, the Vegas cop being put in critical condition, combined with a bunch of people showing up in seizing territory, to what extent you want to call it seizing, then you have Minneapolis voting to abolish their police while books are being banned, movies are being banned, and art is being banned.
These are all things that we were told together was the sign of the rise of fascism.
adam crigler
Yep, that's true.
tim pool
So, I can only assume that if the left thinks they're the good guys and they're literally burning and banning books and banning art, they're not.
adam crigler
Who was the last people to do that in history?
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, let me think.
tim pool
Well, I mean, probably Venezuela.
lydia smith
Well, most recently, maybe, yeah.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Yeah, whatever, communist China's doing it now!
Yeah.
adam crigler
Speaking of China, I have a feeling they're behind a lot of this.
Who has the most to gain with us going under?
Them.
We found they were bringing in viruses, paying professors.
Now we're finding out Antifa was going into schools to recruit and it's like, hmm.
I have a feeling we're going to go to war with China before a boogaloo happens here in the States.
tim pool
You think so?
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what I think.
tim pool
Well, that's why I said the long shot prediction I had before was that before anything reaches critical mass, there will be some kind of false flag, or I shouldn't call it a false flag, but some kind of attack on us that forces the country to unite against a common enemy.
I don't think... It's actually hard to say because I think this goes all the way to the top.
Look, if you have Donald Trump accusing Barack Obama of trying to sabotage his presidency, then you clearly have at the highest levels of government a split.
adam crigler
Well, sure enough, there's this thing, I don't know if you've heard, called Obamagate.
It's going on right now.
A bunch of officials.
But no one's talking about it.
Mainstream media is not talking about it.
It's like, what's going on?
What's going on with that?
tim pool
So this is the point.
Even if a war with China broke out, why would any of these high-ranking elite factions side with each other?
adam crigler
So what?
Everyone in America is just going to be like, eh, let's just let China win.
Well, fine, whatever.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
We're not gonna fight.
tim pool
You'll probably get the commies saying, trying to help us.
adam crigler
And what percentage would the commies be?
8% maybe.
tim pool
The progressive far left that believe in all this weird critical race stuff.
And then China says, we're going to help you get rid of this person or whatever.
But then you also look at the high-ranking government officials, the people at universities who have their, you know, the tendrils that China has reached and corrupted.
So I can't tell you, you know, who would accept or wouldn't.
But what I can say is, Even if we have a common enemy, if it goes all the way to the top, the past president and the current president are accusing each other and facing a rift between each other, what happens where they finally say, oh, OK, we're good now.
Let's go fight China.
adam crigler
That's something I've been saying.
It's like you're not even allowed to change your opinion.
You can't even have a debate.
It feels like you have to maintain whatever side you're on to the death instead of... Right.
And that's an issue.
We gotta let that go.
We gotta be able to... No, you're wrong.
What are you talking about?
How am I wrong there?
tim pool
You're going to agree with people banning books and art?
adam crigler
Absolutely not.
tim pool
Right.
So they're going to come to you and say, nah, I'm not going to side with you unless we ban your hate speech.
And you're going to say no.
adam crigler
I don't care if people talk hate against me.
And that's something we need to, we have to have thicker skin, man.
Freedom of speech.
You're right.
You can say what you want.
I don't care what you say.
Who are you to even speak?
tim pool
They don't agree with you.
lydia smith
You are correct.
Yeah.
But.
adam crigler
Well, I don't agree with them.
tim pool
Exactly.
So would you ever unite with them?
adam crigler
With the 8% of the population that thinks the crazy stuff and want to burn books?
No, I wouldn't agree with that.
tim pool
And they're the active left wing in this country.
According to the Hidden Tribes, you've got conservatives and progressive activists that
are active, and everyone in between is not paying attention.
So maybe this sparks a wake up in liberals who become moderate or become active and say,
I'm not going to stand for this either.
But I'll tell you what, man, when I talk to my liberal friends, and they're actual liberals,
they're not progressives, they say, I mean, what's wrong with banning hate speech?
And I'm like, you actually agree with people who are burning books?
Like, Amazon is literally... But, I mean, Amazon doesn't have to sell anything if they don't want to.
And there it is.
They don't care.
They're not going to get involved.
And the active people on the other side are literally... Dude, it's not even about the progressive activists.
It's about all of our mainstream institutions now collectively just burning everything.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
I know.
And I'm not going to stand for it.
adam crigler
Me neither.
I think it's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yep.
And I think it's horrifying.
And...
Everything that is our country and everything that even is the West and the UK, like the United Kingdom and Europe, always stood against this stuff.
We mocked and ridiculed and condemned book burning.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We wrote books about how bad it was to burn books.
And now, the mainstream culture in our country is actively doing it, and it's getting worse every single day.
adam crigler
You know, you're proving my point.
You're proving my point.
These people that are so far—these 8% you're talking about, they're so crazy and into— Amazon.
—that they're correct.
unidentified
Google.
adam crigler
Facebook.
They need to burn all these books.
tim pool
Twitter?
adam crigler
Twitter, whatever it is, whatever it is, they aren't even, they're so vicious in their thought
process, they can't come away from it because it's part of their pride now.
It's part of their emotional trigger system.
They can't relinquish it.
And that is what I'm talking about.
That's the problem.
And there's people all over the place that feel the same way.
No, no, no.
I'm right.
You're wrong.
No exceptions.
I don't care.
I'll hate you because of it.
And it's like, what is wrong with people?
You have to be able to see the entire situation and accept that you can change.
It's okay to change.
tim pool
It's this simple.
Google has told me I can't say a name.
Senator Rand Paul has video removed from YouTube for saying a name.
Our government was challenging the impeachment of the president and Google, a major company, one of the most powerful companies on the planet, deleted that video.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
These people aren't just a small faction of nobodies, they're extremely powerful.
adam crigler
And yet you're here not saying his name so you won't get banned.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
So you're going along with it too.
tim pool
Right?
I have to choose the compromise.
Can I say the name or not and actually have this conversation to make sure people know what's going on?
Or do I just burn it all down?
But I'll tell you what won't happen is when it comes down to an actual conflict.
When, you know, come November, if they say Trump cheated and Trump says no, they cheated and everyone's fighting, will you stand side by side with the people who want to burn books?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Definitely not.
And if they came to you and said, listen, China's a bigger threat.
We need to come together.
Just let us burn some books.
adam crigler
No.
No books?
That's what I said earlier, dude.
The divided states.
That's why I'm saying- I see that happening also.
The divided states of America, man.
tim pool
And that's the point I'm making.
There is no circumstance where you can reconcile this divide.
Thefreepress.net is the name of their organization, and they advocate for censorship.
If our non-profits that are supposed to fight for the free press support censorship and want to shut down the free press, we are beyond a point where this bridge, this divide can be mended.
adam crigler
I mean, you said it yourself.
If the truckers stop going to the cities and the blue states say, or the blue cities, all the Democrat-run everything go, you know what, whatever, we're going to do what we want, and all the red states Slash farmers and and like rural like Americans that are living in the country go fine.
Do you do you we're gonna keep our food?
We're not gonna help you.
We're gonna split off from you.
The truckers aren't gonna go to these cities They're gonna just it's it's gonna be a complete structural change and all those people that you're talking about that that are The loudest on Twitter, I guess the loudest in in there ate the 8% They're going to starve.
They're going to starve themselves out.
tim pool
Or a lot of the truckers just say, hey man, I don't want to be involved.
Just tell me what I got to do to get my paycheck, man.
adam crigler
You think that these truckers are going to drive into a policeless zone where there's warlords fighting over who's going to be in control next week?
It might still be Raz, but the following week it might be the next warlord that killed Raz and took his spot.
tim pool
If it gets that bad, no.
adam crigler
Who knows?
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
It's a lawless place.
A guy supposedly stole something and they surrounded him with bats saying, you took it, huh?
Why'd you take it?
Why'd you run?
It's like, what?
They don't know a thing.
So it's a lawless place.
Why would truckers go in there?
tim pool
So what do you think these far leftists who are armed are gonna do once the food stops?
Do you think they'll just die?
adam crigler
They're gonna go out to the armed Americans and get killed.
That's what I said earlier.
They're going to be like, you know what, let's go get the food from the farmers.
The farmers are like, come on out.
Yeah, maybe.
Come on out.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
And they're going to rally up all of their townsfolk that all know each other's names.
Even the police officers are like, yeah, yeah, Jimmy, I got you.
I'll come help protect your farm for sure.
tim pool
This is a civil war.
adam crigler
Yeah.
If this leads, if it keeps going and they don't stop Chaz.
And people flock into Chaz and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger in Seattle and it will be blue versus red.
tim pool
And then what happens if at that moment China attacks?
adam crigler
Good luck?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
For us?
For everybody?
Yeah.
That's the biggest fear we should have as we're facing serious conflict from China.
The best time to attack would be when our cities are policeless, setting up autonomous zones.
So give it six months when this starts spreading.
If Trump goes in with the military to Chaz, I think it'll make it way worse.
Because it'll light people up.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
adam crigler
Listen, man.
I asked my followers.
I mean, granted, I don't, you know, I'm a small little corner in the Twitterverse.
You know, I asked when he said, you know, the government in Washington needs to take care of this and end it now.
And he was posting law and order, law and order.
I'm like, who wants him to go take control?
I would say 95% of the responses were like, yes, he needs to take control because this is ridiculous.
tim pool
And then you know what's gonna happen?
adam crigler
They're gonna blame it on him.
How dare he do this?
How dare he overstep his bounds?
They've been pushing him to do this for months now.
Oh man, how dare you close down our borders because of coronavirus?
How dare you do it?
You xenophobe.
Oh man, a month later, I would have closed them first!
I would have closed them a week before he did it!
And it's just like...
God, everything, anything, if they can pin it on him, they do.
It's insane.
I'm so sick of it.
tim pool
The hope is that your perception of the divide is correct.
So when you look at the polls, It's actually fairly even.
And maybe the polls are wrong.
Maybe the Trump supporters are keeping their mouths shut because they don't want to lose their jobs and be attacked by the mob.
adam crigler
Honestly, I've seen people say that.
Look, I can't even talk to my family because I'm a Trump supporter.
They hate me now.
tim pool
And why didn't that change after the first time they voted for Trump?
Why did it only get worse?
adam crigler
Because the Democrats immediately Russiagate Once Russiagate ended, impeachment... Well, why wouldn't they?
tim pool
They voted for Trump in secret.
Trump won.
Now, is it finally okay to say that, you know, we are part of that silent majority?
He won.
That proved us right.
No, they still remained quiet.
They said nothing.
adam crigler
Yeah, because the Democrats went crazy into this whole, no, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia!
And it's like, turns out that was all a lie.
Turns out, it seems like that's something that the Obama administration was spinning.
tim pool
But it's not changed.
adam crigler
What hasn't changed?
tim pool
The rhetoric has only escalated.
Now they're saying Trump will need to be removed from the White House by the military.
That's what Joe Biden just said.
adam crigler
Yeah, Joe Biden said that.
tim pool
So what happens if Trump wins, legitimately wins, and all the Democrats have to do is say, we have proof he cheated.
Like, Adam Schiff lied about the evidence he had.
adam crigler
So how would I believe, why would I believe anything that they say?
tim pool
You wouldn't, but a lot of people do.
A lot of people do.
65 million people voted for Hillary Clinton.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Trump's base is bigger based on certain polls, you know, from like last August in the New York Times.
adam crigler
Well, once Biden picks Hillary as his running mate, it's going to be over for him.
unidentified
Maybe, but they're not... Dude, it's going to happen.
adam crigler
I can see it.
tim pool
They're not running Biden to run Biden.
They're running against Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah, and they're not running Biden to run Biden.
They're running Biden to be the placeholder.
So everybody doesn't get super mad when they switch him out with whoever they pick.
tim pool
After everything that's happened over the past four years from Russiagate, Ukrainegate, impeachment, all the lies about COVID, do you think they'd be willing to cheat in the election?
adam crigler
Democrats?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
And what if they do?
adam crigler
Definitely.
And what if they do what?
Cheat to win?
tim pool
Yeah.
Like literally burn ballots and stuff ballots and cheat.
adam crigler
What can I do, Tim?
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
What would I be able to do?
I don't know.
The only thing I can think of is getting into government myself.
Do I want to do that?
tim pool
If they're cheating?
adam crigler
No way!
Do I have any interest?
No, I have zero interest.
But this is every single time I ask myself, what is the best way to figure out how to handle this?
Because I'm looking at the government.
What is the government?
Old people.
Yep.
All old people that are out of touch.
They don't get it.
They all think they know the answers.
They've had a lifetime of thinking that.
And now all of them are fighting and bickering amongst each other.
It's like, yeah, we need younger people in government.
tim pool
And you know what the problem is?
adam crigler
That's the answer.
tim pool
You know what the problem is for you and me?
adam crigler
What's that?
tim pool
We have no political party.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
None.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I'm not a Democrat and I'm not a Republican.
tim pool
Exactly.
You would have been a Democrat six, seven years ago.
adam crigler
Maybe.
I thought I was for a long time.
tim pool
But you look at the polls and they flip with the far left taking over.
And now what do they say?
Burn books, ban speech, ban art.
adam crigler
Ridiculous.
tim pool
Not liberal.
And the old school Democrats said, well, whatever gets us power.
And Nancy Pelosi is on her way out.
She bends the knee to these people because she knows she is the exact opposite of the Greek proverb.
That a society grows great when people plant trees in whose shade they know they will never sit.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, they're the opposite of that saying.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
They are burning it all down around them so they can have a little tiny morsel of power at 80 years old.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
They're giving everything up.
adam crigler
They've been in government for 40, 50 years and everything's Trump's fault?
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
He's been in power for three and a half years?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
It's all Trump's fault.
It's not some systemic issue with the way things have been run for a long time.
It's like, come on.
Yes, it is.
That's exactly what it is.
tim pool
There's probably a potential that if you ran as a moderate Republican in a blue area, you might win.
No, no, no.
adam crigler
I would win.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't think so.
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
In a D plus 30 district?
adam crigler
Yep.
I would.
lydia smith
You think so?
tim pool
In a D plus 30?
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
You think so?
adam crigler
I'm confident.
I guess people want someone that has at least some semblance of an idea.
And you know what?
Have you ever watched a documentary about Bobby Kennedy?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
Man, what a boss.
That dude was awesome.
And it's no surprise that he got shot and killed before he became president.
I believe it.
But he went to the rural areas and the poor areas and every Aryan was like, man, we can fix this.
We have to fix this.
We have to figure out a way to help everybody.
And it's like, that's what we need.
No, I'm not a Democrat.
No, I'm not a Republican.
But I love people and I want everyone to be happy.
I want everyone to feel privileged.
tim pool
Pro-life or pro-choice?
adam crigler
I'm pro-choice.
tim pool
Then you would not win in a Republican district.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And you would not win.
And so right now, the left has become overtly pro-abortion, not even pro-choice.
It's funny, because when you mention that, they say you're lying, it's not true, we're pro-choice.
But it's like, when I show my friends the video from Virginia, where Ralph Northam talks about delivering the baby and then deciding after the fact what to do with it, they're like, whoa, wait, that really happened?
lydia smith
Unbelievable.
tim pool
They don't believe it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'm pro-choice.
That's the compromise.
But you've either got to be like Michelle Wolf, who goes on Netflix and goes, everybody gets an abortion, you get an abortion, you get an abortion.
And I'm like, that's insane.
That is psychotic.
adam crigler
So this is another thing, you know, if you want to talk about it, it's like, I'll talk about it.
We got to figure out why so many people are getting abortions.
Sure, sure.
You know, it's like there's cases for it, but it's like that's what I want to talk about.
What is the reason anything is happening?
Why are people getting cancer?
Why is there poor people?
Why are cops killing people?
Why are the things happening?
That's what we need to fix.
Let's stop putting more medicine on stuff, making us live longer.
unidentified
For sure.
adam crigler
Let's figure out the reason.
No, I don't have all the answers.
No, I'm not going to have every idea I have you're going to like, but let's talk about it.
tim pool
Pete Buttigieg gave a pretty good response, in my opinion, when asked if he was pro-life or pro-choice.
A pro-life Democrat said, she's a pro-life Democrat, a lot of people in the Democratic Party are pro-life, surprisingly.
And Buttigieg said, well, I'm personally pro-choice.
You know, he basically said, I know we might not agree, but I hope that you would choose me, trusting me to do the right thing when it came to this decision-making process.
I think that's the best thing someone could say if they have an ideological disagreement.
And he got roasted for it by conservatives, saying it was a terrible response.
What was he supposed to say?
Dude, I'm pro-choice.
The best thing I can do is say, I'm willing to have a conversation.
Maybe you won't agree.
I really don't know what else to do.
If you don't like it, please don't vote for me.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But he gets roasted for it.
So there really are hard wedge issues that are problematic.
Now, maybe you could run as a moderate Democrat.
But what happened when the moderate Democrats ran in 2018?
They said, we're going to do all the normal things.
We're going to fight for normal issues.
We're going to fight for insurance, for health care, employment.
And then as soon as they got voted in, they were holding the orange man bad ring.
And the moderate voters said, do it!
Cast it into the fire!
And they went.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Impeach Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah, because the system is run by a bunch of old people from old systems.
tim pool
The moderates are the ones who are younger.
adam crigler
Yeah, well, we need everybody.
I can't just go up there and be like, I'm going to be the one person that changes things.
No, no, no, no, no.
We need a hundred of me, a thousand of me, you know, different people.
I'm not saying me personally.
I'm saying all these younger generations that are pissed about this.
Get out there.
tim pool
Dude, the millennial generation and Gen Z are woke.
adam crigler
Yes, that's true.
tim pool
They won't like you.
adam crigler
Not all of them.
I disagree, man.
Sure, they're out there.
Yeah, the woke generation.
But they also are entitled and feel like they are owed stuff.
You think people are going to vote for that kind of attitude?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Really, you think so?
tim pool
I think they'll vote for each other.
And then it'll all fall apart.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That's why I don't see an exit to this room we're in.
I see you look at Chaz, and with all the problems they've experienced, they haven't learned a thing.
They're just like, dumping potting soil onto a cardboard and then dropping a potted plant on top of it.
It's like watching Idiocracy.
They think they're the smart ones, while they ban books and ban speech and they don't understand what's wrong with that.
The Democrats at the top don't care, and they're laughing the whole time.
Any one of these people could shut these people up.
They don't care.
They like it.
So you have a tiny fraction of this country dictating policy for the most of it.
Perhaps what happens is, come November, Trump wins, and the Republicans win by such an overwhelming majority, like what we saw in the UK, that it shocks all of these establishment institutions, and they stop doing this stuff.
But right now, they're the ones fueling it.
adam crigler
That would be wonderful.
tim pool
But I don't, I don't, I don't believe it'll happen.
adam crigler
I do.
tim pool
Trump won the first time and what did they do?
They ramped it up.
It's, it's been worse than ever and it's only gotten worse.
And the best Trump could ever do was say the FCC should investigate and
set some guidelines and it's not going to do anything.
Maybe if the Republicans win the house, they'll actually amend 230 to say legal
speech is protected and that changes everything, but many people have said,
and perhaps this is true, Trump will be the last Republican president unless the
Republican Party becomes like the Democrats are today.
And then you end up with the woke party and the, you know, kind of woke party.
And then books are banned, books are burned.
So what happens to all of those people who say no to this?
I guess the big question that we don't know is how big, how many people will support the book burnings?
I'd be willing to bet a lot of them.
adam crigler
I don't.
unidentified
You don't think so?
adam crigler
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
I mean, it's happening all around us.
Who's stopping them?
adam crigler
Yeah, they're sitting in their little drum circles or whatever you want to call it.
tim pool
Little little circles of skyscrapers and skyscrapers in San Francisco, you mean?
adam crigler
Yeah, themselves burning their own stuff.
tim pool
So Mark Zuckerberg, sitting atop his ivory tower in San Francisco, is banning Trump supporters left and right.
Jack Dorsey flags Donald Trump's tweets and then glorifies violence himself.
These are billionaires.
These are extremely powerful individuals who are suppressing thought and ideas and gloating about it and lying about it.
These are not drum circles.
Nothing will stop them.
adam crigler
Okay, so what so so it's like that well as long as people still use their platforms, which they do You know, maybe we should get off Twitter.
tim pool
Maybe we need to nationalize all of them Amazon.
adam crigler
No, I don't know but They need someone like you to create a new Twitter.
What's stopping you?
tim pool
It's been tried.
unidentified
And?
tim pool
Over and over and over again, it's been tried.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
What they do is, their drones and media immediately, and probably fake this themselves, will find one or two extremists, and then run a huge article expose about the new neo-Nazi website.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
And then your sponsors drop and people panic and they flee.
adam crigler
Man, they're the ones that seem like they're the Nazis.
I mean, I don't want to say it, but that's what it feels like.
They were burning books.
tim pool
They were authoritarian.
adam crigler
They were trying to divide everybody.
I refuse to be divided.
I love all of my American friends.
I love them all, man.
Even the crazy ones, Tim.
tim pool
You refuse to be divided.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But if someone came and demanded that you start burning- To burn a book?
adam crigler
I wouldn't.
tim pool
So you won't.
So you will stand divided.
adam crigler
Sure, to the small percentage that wants me to burn a book.
When it's like, that book, even if it's hate speech, is showing me what hate speech is.
tim pool
So I guess what we don't know right now... Let's talk about it.
adam crigler
Let's bring it out there.
tim pool
What we don't know right now is how big the numbers really are.
But if it's true that Joe Biden is polling as well as he is, while Joe Biden himself calls for Facebook to censor speech, those numbers should be alarming to everyone in this country.
adam crigler
Well, at least they denied him.
At least they said, no, sorry, Biden.
We're not going to let someone dictate what we do, which is rather interesting that they said that.
tim pool
I think Facebook started hedging their bets that Trump is going to win.
And so at first they were censoring everybody and then realized if the Republicans take the majority, they're in serious trouble.
And so they immediately backed off.
Twitter, however, I think Twitter's convinced Trump's going to lose.
Twitter is the most egregious actor out of all of this.
And I think Jack Dorsey is manipulative and duplicitous.
adam crigler
Yep, I see it.
tim pool
Cause I've talked to the guy on more than one occasion and he promises all of these, he whispers all these sweet nothings about decentralization and all the good work they're doing.
And then what does he do?
unidentified
Not that.
tim pool
He personally breaks his own rules.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Breaks his own rules.
tim pool
Fact checks opinions.
adam crigler
What's, what's a rule for thee, but not me.
tim pool
Rules for thee, but not for me.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And.
adam crigler
Ridiculous.
tim pool
You know, I, I think all of these companies, are paying attention to the rift that's growing and they're counting heads.
The reason why those Joint Chiefs of Staff and why the general guy came out and stood against Trump is they're betting Trump will lose.
adam crigler
Well, he's got my vote.
tim pool
I guess we can only wait and see, man.
Who's right?
Is the media lying to us?
Yup.
So are the polls correct?
I have no idea.
They could be wrong.
But Rasmussen did a poll and they typically favoured Trump and found Trump's approval rating was way down.
Apparently OAN, One American News, was supposed to do a poll and found that it was tied in Florida, and so they ended up running it.
It could be that there really are a bunch of people who are cheering for this stuff.
Look, man, the propaganda is everywhere.
It's one thing when you see the support for Black Lives Matter, which on the surface is totally fine.
The stuff Dave Chappelle talked about was great.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
But behind that are the extremists who are using it to force people in this country to burn books, to ban movies, to ban art.
That's the nightmare scenario.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really funny.
Jordan Peterson's book was banned by a store in New Zealand.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
But you could still buy Mein Kampf.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Great.
Yeah, they want to shut down modern opinions that could keep people enlightened, I guess.
adam crigler
I mean, it's clear they don't know what they're doing, though.
They're tearing down statues of people that fought for the end of slavery.
They're desecrating statues of regiments of people that fought for them, that represented true equality.
tim pool
This is culture evolution.
It doesn't matter.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
In order to build a new world, you must tear down the old.
And they're doing it, and it's just happening.
They're tearing down statues and no one's stopping them.
The police stand there and watch them do it.
adam crigler
Well, look, I gotta just say, I hope we got a lot of people here watching.
It's like, when it does happen, use your voice.
We have to be the sane people in the world.
This is a platform, you know?
I want everyone to know There's logical people out there, and I hope a lot of you are.
It's like, we gotta be vocal.
We can't let these extremists, essentially, I don't care what side you're on, if you're an extremist, you're blaming other people for problems you can probably work on yourself to fix.
So we gotta help.
We gotta use our voice.
We can't be silent.
We gotta speak up.
So please do.
tim pool
I think this starts right now with people who have jobs start talking about this.
You know what the big challenge is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
These Antifa people, these crazy far leftists have no kids.
lydia smith
Yeah, they don't care.
tim pool
They got nothing to lose.
adam crigler
They got nothing.
tim pool
And the people with families are like, I can't lose this job.
How am I going to feed my kids?
So they keep bending the knee for the people who don't have kids.
Well, I guess I'll tell you this right now.
If you find yourself in a position where you're more worried about the immediate food for your kids, what future will be left for them if you allow the lunatics to take over and do all of this stuff?
So, we do need to jump over to the Super Chats, because we went on a long spree there.
I hope you enjoyed it.
So, I apologize for, you know, we're not going to be able to get to too much.
Adam's going to always pull out the Laphroaig.
adam crigler
Well, normally I wait until after we do Super Chats, but... Is that how you pronounce it?
Laphroaig?
It's funny, I saw someone who was like, Adam, you need to have your glass of whiskey.
Now, you guys know, before I jam, I like to have a little bit of whiskey.
And this is actually over 100 years old, this shot glass.
Can you cut to me here?
So, I guess you can't really see the lettering.
tim pool
No, I think we can.
adam crigler
Oh, I can't zoom in very much.
lydia smith
There we go.
Tim can zoom in.
adam crigler
It says, Woodland Whiskey, Kregler and Kregler Distillers.
And so this is actually from my family's whiskey company in like 1900.
Wow.
Like the year 1900.
So this is like 120 year old shot glass right here.
So this is pretty cool.
lydia smith
Nice.
adam crigler
Yeah.
So I'm going to be using that.
And this is some Laphroaig.
You got me onto this, actually.
I never had this.
And when I got here, Tim was like, let's celebrate.
I'll go get you a bottle of whiskey.
unidentified
What do you want?
tim pool
Some expensive whiskey.
adam crigler
We celebrated after the defeat of Antifa.
of 25 year LeFroig and I was...
Let me just tell you, it was delicious.
tim pool
We celebrated after the defeat of Antifa.
We were doing an event last year and Antifa threatened to burn the theater down.
We eventually found a new venue and because we were succeeding, we were like, I am going to celebrate our success with a very expensive whiskey, which I did have some of and it was awful.
I hated it.
adam crigler
It was amazing.
tim pool
Adam loves it.
adam crigler
It's amazing.
It's amazing whiskey.
tim pool
25 years?
adam crigler
It ruins all other whiskey for me.
Although the Freud 10 years is really good.
It's a lot more affordable.
It's really delicious.
I'm gonna spin the UFO for all my homies out there.
tim pool
Do it!
And I'm gonna try and read as many supertits as I can.
lydia smith
Alright, let's book it.
tim pool
And I'm gonna start with E36Blur who said, Tim's not gonna read this.
lydia smith
Oh!
unidentified
Ha ha!
adam crigler
Joke's on you!
lydia smith
Psych!
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says, Tim, I'm going to try to go to the Trump rally in Tulsa on June 19th to film.
What would you recommend on how to film, never filmed before?
Happy note, y'all have a wonderful day, stay safe.
Honestly, I have no idea.
adam crigler
I heard it's already sold out.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
adam crigler
If you don't have a ticket, I don't even think you can get in there.
tim pool
Every Trump rally I went to in 2015 was, the only reason I got in was because I was press.
lydia smith
They sound like so much fun.
tim pool
I was lucky.
adam crigler
Yeah, he said that I'm going to have one.
Sold out.
His base is huge, man.
tim pool
I know, I agree.
adam crigler
People want him.
And people that aren't voting for Trump, they're voting for Joe... Joe Hennison?
What was the independent?
tim pool
Oh, Joe Jorgensen.
adam crigler
Joe Jorgensen.
They're voting for Bernie still.
They're voting for Biden.
tim pool
Maybe that splits the Bernie stuff.
adam crigler
I see people are like, Bernie's still on the docket!
Let's vote for Bernie!
It's like, the Trump people are like, Yeah, we're voting for Trump.
And I saw an interesting meme.
It's like Democrats, how they see voters, they're like splitting them up like white, black, Hispanic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the different races.
And then Trump, how he sees voters, and it just is an American flag.
unidentified
And I was like, I gotta tell you, I gotta say, you saw that one?
adam crigler
No, no, no.
tim pool
I've been I've been watching all this stuff for a really, really long time.
And I've always been like, you know, Republicans, Democrats, culture or whatever.
But I'll tell you, when they started banning movies and books at rapid speed recently in the past couple weeks, Gone with the Wind sells out on Amazon.
adam crigler
You can get it now, it's like $150.
tim pool
When you go on Instagram, when you search on Instagram, they've dedicated 25% of the screen to Black Lives Matter.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And on the surface, I'm fine with protests, but the rapid culture revolution is one of the scariest things I've seen so far.
The suppression of speech has been a slow roll over a long time and it's been scary over the past several years.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
The rapid speed at which they've been burning, you know, figuratively burning books, banning them from Amazon.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Banning art from Magic the Gathering.
adam crigler
Magic cards.
tim pool
Art being banned.
That freaks me out.
Freaks me out.
It's the beginning.
I can only imagine what a regular American would think.
Someone who's sitting there and they find out that Cops just got banned.
You know Cops?
Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
How many middle-aged regular dudes just get home from work and then sit down and turn the TV on and Cops is playing and they're like whatever?
lydia smith
33 seasons.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a long time.
adam crigler
Good enough to keep going for that long, yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's a long time.
adam crigler
1989.
tim pool
I wonder what their ratings were.
adam crigler
Good enough to keep going for that long.
tim pool
How many people now are watching It's Always Sunny and they just banned the Lethal Weapon
5 episode?
And they're going like, what?
unidentified
Why?
lydia smith
No idea.
adam crigler
A lot of people.
tim pool
And how many of them are getting scared because of it?
adam crigler
A lot of people.
tim pool
I think Trump definitely needs to lean into that and say, we cannot allow our country to fall to book burnings.
adam crigler
I wouldn't be surprised if he already said something like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, we gotta keep it moving.
tim pool
Yeah, we gotta keep it moving.
We're not gonna get to enough Super Chats.
I'm sorry, guys.
adam crigler
We've chatted enough today, Tim.
I've had enough of you.
tim pool
We had a really intense feud.
lydia smith
Super Chats.
Good feud.
tim pool
Play More says, I live on the edge of civilization in northern Canada.
unidentified
40.
tim pool
People need real jobs, real pay, and real time to reflect.
Kiss.
Keep it short, simple, and sweet.
Have a safe day.
I will.
adam crigler
Hear, hear.
tim pool
Not too late, man.
Trump is like, unfortunately, the worst ambassador of opposing this stuff.
That's the challenge.
He is far from perfect.
Okay, I get it.
Maybe there's nothing that would be better than Trump being like, I'm not PC, I refuse to kneel.
But I guess that's all there is, huh?
Scott Bloss says, Tim, New Jersey has pretty strict gun laws, but they have Castle Doctrine for home defense.
How much research have you done so far?
Here in New York, I had to neuter the AR I just built for it to be legal.
Was not happy.
Yeah.
I set on the horizon says thoughts on the Boogaloo boys.
I'm part of the Michigan group and the response has been mostly positive from the protesters defending them from police and stopping Antifa types.
The media hates us.
The media keeps claiming that the Boogaloo boys are like Nazis.
And I'm like, I don't think that's true.
I've watched the videos of them.
They're like libertarians and they don't really talk about politics from what I've seen.
OK, you know, they're just people who show up and they're like, hey, no, no Antifa violence.
But the media vice particularly.
Steven Biggs says South Park is going to have a really good season this year.
Yeah.
Of this year.
Yeah, totally.
adam crigler
I'm sure.
tim pool
Info Slinger says, I think the Chazz and the unrest in these cities is a big troll to get Trump to send in the military so MSM can say, see, Trump is a dictator.
Yeah, maybe.
Steven says Chazz the UFO.
adam crigler
I will Chazz it.
tim pool
Chazz the UFO.
adam crigler
I just take it.
This is mine now.
Steal it.
tim pool
Simius the first says all democracies are doomed demagoguery and tyranny because democracies need the populace to have strong moral fiber Eventually the moral fiber of the citizen citizenry fades and they start to elect people who will just give them whatever they want thus democracy dies That seems to be what's happening, man.
man. Yeah. Gabriel McLeod. Hey Tim, do you think we are seeing the beginnings of some
version of the shadow run reality? Autonomous zones, rise in private security, big corporations
exerting power, Google search shadow run North America met.
I don't know what that is, but Check it out, sounds cool.
adam crigler
Same.
tim pool
CJ Reid says, Is America's recent history in part defined by foreign wars,
as it will split the public's focus away from the homegrown conflict, thus making them
argue issues which impact them in a less tangible manner?
I mean, that tends to be what's happening.
I think that's why we talked about, you know, China comes in and then all of a sudden, we seemingly, we're seemingly united, but I'm not, not super confident, man.
Wolfault DeLeon says, to Adam, post 4441, the wait will soon be over.
Post 4421, do you see what is happening?
And then he says, the news is fake.
The war is real.
Well, there you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Cody says, great conversation.
All we can hope for is that the silent majority is much larger than we think.
It's hard to believe anything we hear from media.
Hopefully the truth is better than what's portrayed.
I would agree.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Adventurer says, cardboard to kill established grass, dirt to hold it in place.
You are supposed to wait weeks till the grass dies, then perforate the cardboard and then plant it in a process to convert lawn to garden.
adam crigler
Well, they don't have time for that, so.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
They got, they got a time.
They got till the 20th.
Eight days.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
To make these crops grow.
tim pool
Now, if you haven't already, make sure you smash the like button.
unidentified
Smash it!
We have to.
Gotta get people to do that.
Did you smash that like button yet?
Smash!
Smash it!
lydia smith
You know you wanna.
unidentified
Okay, sorry.
tim pool
And you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Timcast.
You can follow at AdamKrigler on Twitter and Instagram as well.
And you can send Adam story ideas on his pinned tweets.
And also, don't forget, you can follow at SourPatchLids.
lydia smith
Follow me!
tim pool
L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
I love peeps.
tim pool
Yeah.
Epic Toad Rage says the police stand by and watch as they tear down statues.
Will the police stand by and let others violently remove the people pulling down statues?
I would imagine the answer to that is yes.
Scott Bromley says please join Parlay so I can get off Twitter and still follow you guys.
adam crigler
Is that another one of those things?
tim pool
Yeah, it's like an alternative to Twitter, but there's so many.
And it's like, it's really hard to manage multiple networks.
You know, it's like Twitter and YouTube are almost the same thing anyway, in terms of like posting updates, not videos.
Captain Destin says, leftists not having kids doesn't matter.
Everyone else's kids are being indoctrinated by the system.
Check out talks on intellectual subversion by Yuri Bezmenov, super scary stuff.
Leftist not having kids does matter, because when you walk up to somebody who's got kids, and you say, bend the knee, or else, they say, please don't hurt my children, I'll do whatever you say.
When you walk up to a leftist and they have no kids, they say, I don't got anything to lose, do what you want, and I will give you nothing.
They have nothing to risk, they're not scared of anything.
Sons of Titan.
Have you heard of the cartel member LaBarbie, who is involving many high Mexican officials and U.S.
officials, especially with Fast and Furious Operation?
Any chance that goes anywhere?
I don't know anything about it, unfortunately.
Sorry.
ThePoolDork says, Adam, as a whiskey man myself, I have a newfound respect for you.
Here's to whiskey!
Huzzah!
unidentified
Cheers.
tim pool
And, uh, oh, it just jumped on me.
Where were we at?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Don't jump.
adam crigler
Ah, that's good.
tim pool
Jean, Jean, Jean or Jean?
Jean McLeod?
I guess I am a lesbian that loves to watch Tim.
Someone's commented on my Twitter.
I sent you and asked, lesbians watch Tim?
I mean, actually, uh, a good friend of mine is a lesbian and leftist, but actually watches and, you know, supports my work.
Like that's, that's the thing.
I think there, there are regular sane people who can have conversations and disagree, but too many crazies are kind of taking over.
adam crigler
I think most people are regular and sane.
Like regular and sane.
tim pool
Sane people.
Look, I had a conversation recently, well last year, with one of my neighbors and they believed crazy fake things.
They were sane.
They were rational.
And they said stuff like the very fine people hoax.
You know what that is?
So Joe Biden launched his campaign off of the lie that Donald Trump said neo-Nazis were very fine people.
Oh, okay.
adam crigler
But he didn't say that.
tim pool
He didn't. He said they should be condemned totally. And he said there were other people
that were very fine. And he was referring to regular people who didn't want a statue torn down.
Joe Biden cuts the context and changes it. And I talked to my locals and they think Trump
literally is going out there and celebrating and cheering for neo-Nazis.
And then they say, because they don't know better, that you are the problem for defending neo-Nazis.
adam crigler
I'll talk to them about it.
tim pool
They're not going to believe you.
adam crigler
They want to talk to me?
tim pool
It's like, you watch NPR today, said Donald Trump just revoked LGBTQ protections in healthcare.
And all of a sudden I'm seeing all these lefties screeching and going, what?
Unity really did?
adam crigler
I don't even want to get in this conversation.
tim pool
Donald Trump enacted a new rule that says biological sex is defined by biology, and that's it.
lydia smith
That's it.
tim pool
And then they ran a fake headline saying he was stripping away LGBTQ rights in healthcare.
lydia smith
That's all he said.
adam crigler
Cool, more anti-Trump sentiment.
What a surprise.
tim pool
And so what do you think's gonna happen when you find someone and you're like, look, book burnings are bad, and they're gonna be like, are you literally on the side of the Nazis?
They don't know better.
lydia smith
For not wanting to burn books.
tim pool
They read NPR, bro.
They read the New York Times.
You were the wrong one.
They read it in the news.
So that's why the divide won't be mended.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Maybe Bernie supporters, you know, vote for Trump.
I think that's what Larry is saying.
I think that's a possibility.
won't let the Democrats win. Before it was wanting to win with Bernie, now it's just
about that revenge. Trump 2020. Maybe Bernie supporters, you know, vote for Trump. I think
that's what Larry is saying. I think that's a possibility.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think that might happen.
tim pool
Capitalism, entertainment, and technology says Trump represents the right to not be perfect.
I think that's absolutely fair.
adam crigler
Wonderful.
We gotta have that.
tim pool
Sparky.
adam crigler
People need to know it's okay.
tim pool
It's okay to not be perfect.
Watch that become a white supremacist thing.
Sparky says, Gone with the Wind, which illustrates important context of its time, is banned despite its actress, Hattie McDaniel, being the first black Oscar winner.
They've said they want to bring it back with a disclaimer or something.
King Shizit says, I have footage from the first three days of the Phoenix riots on a USB.
You want me to send it?
Get a red dot light and extra mags?
Sorry, I haven't super chatted till yesterday.
Just started work again.
Burning books is my line.
Um, you can't really send it to me.
I wouldn't know what to do with it, to be honest.
But, I mean, if you have footage, you should just upload it, I guess.
Put it somewhere.
Let's see.
We just got a big ol' YouTube jump.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
There we are.
Colleen says, Adam, your rant was right on.
Don't stop telling it like it is.
adam crigler
I won't ever stop.
tim pool
I like to annoy says there is a way to stop Twitter.
Buy up a majority stake in the company and force Jack out.
He does not own a majority.
That is how you do it.
They call it a hostile takeover in business.
Somebody was going to do that and then they negotiated it.
Remember that?
I do.
Some Trump supporter, Trump donor, super rich dude and then all of a sudden he just stopped.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
McGurr says I've read Chinese fantasy novels and what's happening with no police parallels those novels a lot
They have powers and might makes right if you have enough power or backing laws don't apply to you if you kill a
lesser Oh, well, it was their fault. Yeah
Let's see, let's see we just jumped again It's it's the Kool-Aid dude says the spider destiny to in
Infestation starts small.
Vermin go scuttling through your home and you think it was just one.
But the next thing you know, your shore seethes.
MK says, Y'all need to do a video game political analysis to be honest.
would like to hear your opinion on Dark Souls.
Adam certainly got one of those.
adam crigler
Wait, a political, like, how is Dark Souls political?
I mean, I could talk about Dark Souls all day long.
It's one of my favorite game series of all time.
It's amazing.
It's like old school Castlevania meets with, I mean, the best combat system of all games
that I've ever played.
It's anything can kill you.
The developer said he wants any enemy to be exciting and be able to kill you.
And that's incredible.
And it feels like that way.
And not only that, you can play with your friends, you can invade and kill other players.
It's amazing.
tim pool
Are there politics to it though?
Like is there a story?
adam crigler
I mean, yeah, I guess.
Are you talking about the lore?
Oh, man.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
In the game, is there a story?
Like, what are you doing?
adam crigler
You're burning the world down.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
adam crigler
Lighting the flame.
Well, I don't know.
Actually, there's different endings, so you could potentially light the flame and burn it all away and start over and take the throne.
But there's different endings.
You don't have to do it that way.
You can walk away from it all.
It's kind of cool.
Yeah.
So man, Dark Souls, what a great series.
tim pool
This is an interesting super chat.
Mazdra Resident says, I am leaving the U.S.
I am Kentucky born, but have lived out of the U.S.
People are too insane now.
My liberal dad wants to ban freedom of religion.
I was prepared to go at the end of the year, but COVID.
That's scary, dude.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
Floyd Freed says while everyone is focused on Black Lives Matter, 20 people die each day waiting for an organ transplant.
So many people walking around with a spare kidney or just let their organs rot.
CR505 says, how come the mainstream media and so many others refuse to accurately report on the stats involved with white officers and their contact with black males?
Everyone knows it's not a white officer killing black males.
In a lot of circumstances, it actually wasn't, and they still became big stories.
A lot of Latinos, too.
Marvin says, cultural Marxism has infiltrated our institutions and government.
Ironically, it has now emerged with a new technocratic corporatism.
This will need to be addressed at some point.
I'm not sure it will.
They should be, though.
found you on Rogan. Glad I did. You guys are awesome. Hey, appreciate it. Thank you.
Shadow Fox says, those generals can be brought back in and charged with UCMJ
actions for breaking their oath of enlistment. We swore to follow the
orders of the president when we joined the military. That's crazy. That's
scary that they're doing it though, man. They should be though. Yeah. They're making us
adam crigler
That's not OK.
tim pool
They're putting us at serious risk of harm.
adam crigler
That's not OK.
tim pool
But if he does, you know they're going to use it.
And they're going to be like, oh, he's a dictator.
unidentified
Oh, geez.
adam crigler
It's going to make me respect him more.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
There you go.
Lam says, the failure of US policy toward China is overestimating China's capabilities, yet underestimating China's intentions.
You think you're not at war, but to the CCP, there can be no peace.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're over there going, hmm.
Look at these Americans.
They've admitted it.
They said that they're making fun of us.
It's like, yeah, they're biding their time.
unidentified
What is that?
tim pool
I've stopped playing The Division.
Maybe they're making a joke about something, I don't know.
from Mike Minky, the new TC's, the division.
adam crigler
What is that?
I stopped playing the division.
tim pool
Maybe they're making a joke about something, I don't know.
adam crigler
No, no.
tim pool
Sorry I'm a dummy says, thank you guys for being my main source
of current going on in the States.
PA friend right now on the border of Jersey.
unidentified
Cool.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Steven Smith says, Pope, Thanos, Blue Towers, Balkanization plan.
Thoughts?
I don't know what that is.
lydia smith
So that is the idea that the blue cities should be like kind of their own place, which we kind of actually touched on tonight.
So I'm glad we kind of mentioned that.
tim pool
They would collapse.
adam crigler
They would collapse.
lydia smith
They would turn into shells.
adam crigler
They would collapse.
They would not last.
Yeah.
tim pool
If they announced that, every single major corporation would move their headquarters across the river.
lydia smith
Yeah, what are you supposed to do?
Like, you can't keep a business there.
adam crigler
No, you can't.
tim pool
Man, the hyper-centralization has been really bad for us.
lydia smith
Yeah, what a bad idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Now we know.
tim pool
Well, people are fleeing, so maybe, you know what?
You know what?
unidentified
I'm sorry.
tim pool
I'm going to say it.
Maybe banning the police, abolishing the police, is the right thing to do.
You know why?
lydia smith
Force people out of the cities.
tim pool
Force people out of the cities, man.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
No.
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
Now people are spreading out.
adam crigler
I will never say it was a good thing.
Ever.
lydia smith
Net positive.
tim pool
I'm saying.
I'm saying.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm not even saying it was a net positive.
I'm saying the good thing that comes out of it is it's forcing people out of cities.
Why not?
Just let the cities keep growing and going out of control and breeding lunatics who don't grow food.
adam crigler
We can figure out what's going on without just trying to make radical changes.
tim pool
I'm not saying they should do it, I'm saying the benefit will be that people will leave the cities.
Light at the end of the tunnel.
lydia smith
Maybe so.
adam crigler
I refuse.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
That's a good point.
Adam hit me up on Steam.
M. Cash-tastic.
The politics of Dark Souls is pretty much like the establishment Democrats, the old ones
desperately hanging on.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
CR505 says, huge fan, Tim.
Do you think the mainstream media will ever be criminally liable for intentionally lying to their viewers and inciting anarchy?
Thanks for your unbiased work, all of you.
I think the answer to that is no, and I certainly hope it remains no, because First Amendment, free speech, freedom of the press.
You gotta take the good with the bad, man.
You can't just want your speech and then when someone else has something you don't agree with, you don't like it.
That's why I frequently recommend other YouTubers, progressives typically, and some libertarians, conservatives.
So, shout out to Kyle Kalinske and Sticks, Hacks, and Hammers.
You should watch more channels than just me.
Mix up your opinions and try to figure it out for yourself.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But, you know, the unfortunate reality is we as the libertarian types, and I don't mean big a libertarian, are at a disadvantage because we're willing to be honest and fair and allow people to learn and read, and the cheaters will exploit for their own personal gain.
And it works, man.
adam crigler
Smash that like button!
Yes!
Sorry, I felt like that.
tim pool
Smash it!
adam crigler
That section needed a smash.
lydia smith
I'm feeling it.
adam crigler
Smash that like button.
tim pool
Smash the like button if you haven't already.
lydia smith
Please, please, by all means.
tim pool
Michael Lacey says, Adam Krigler, Tim Cass, there's never a justification to destroy innocent human life.
My brother gave birth to me at 16.
Were I conceived a little later, I would be as dead as 65 million other Americans.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
John Vai says we need Jordan Peterson's wisdom in this time.
And I'm impressed, he's actually broken through a lot of the smears against him.
For a while they tried playing this alt-right thing and it didn't work, and then he actually became a bit more mainstream and was accepted.
It's unfortunate what happened with his medical issue.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Well, people needed meaning.
lydia smith
He's meaningful.
unidentified
100%.
adam crigler
He people do need meaning.
Yeah.
And that's literally what he talks about.
tim pool
You know, I'm just I'm going to I'm going to say this for for, you know, the
whole conversation we had about what's going to happen come November.
The best thing you can probably do is be under the assumption that you have a
chance to win, but you're not guaranteed because the hubris of like we're going
to win and we know it. I've seen it.
Yeah. I tweeted.
I tweeted out that the betting odds don't favor Trump.
I got ratioed.
yeah everyone laughing saying like not not attacking me for but just
commenting how they think it's so dumb there's no way trump will lose and i'm
unidentified
like if you know that's the attitude money talks dude
tim pool
you know money talks and and hubris will be your downfall yeah you'll be sitting
there thinking like meh whatever man i'm not gonna lose we're gonna win i've
lydia smith
argued with people about that too Don't get cocky.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It's happening right in front of us right now.
Yeah.
That's how important it is.
unidentified
fight in in a hundred years. It is. It's happening right now.
Right now. Yeah. It's how important it is. Yikes man.
tim pool
Ben Smith says military swears to protect and defend the Constitution before anything else not the president or any
person. Right on. Let's see where.
It was a good game.
One evil chef says, Tom Clancy's The Division is based on a strain of superflu starting
in NYC and propagating through tainted US bills.
Many view this as realism.
Australia is not real, says.
When city people move to the country, they destroy the essence of that town.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Zoo Wee Mama says, people are taking RSVPs for the rally to shout out supporters from
I see a lot of people my age, teens, doing this.
Don't prevent speech.
Sparky says, I live in the pre-gentrification, post-apocalyptic world in the city in the 70s and 80s.
I liked it, but I'm kind of an omega man.
No, I do not think so at all.
I think they just don't know what they're talking about.
Wow, really?
desensitize people to getting a microchip?
No, I do not think so at all.
I think they just don't know what they're talking about.
John Pete says, please do a segment on Joe Jorgensen and how the Libertarian ticket is not on the ballot
in all 50 states.
Wow, really?
That's crazy.
unidentified
Should be.
tim pool
All right, well, should we jump over to music time?
Music time!
unidentified
Do it!
lydia smith
I love music time.
tim pool
So listen, listen.
If you haven't already, you can follow us, subscribe, hit the like button, hit the notification bell.
Someone sent me this skateboard.
Check it out.
lydia smith
This is so cool.
adam crigler
I had to bring it up.
lydia smith
There we go.
We can see your chin.
There we go.
Oh, sweet, sweet, sweet.
Let's just hit the microphone.
You're welcome, everyone.
tim pool
There it is.
lydia smith
It's amazing.
Yes.
tim pool
I think it's an 8.5 as well, which is what I skate, but I'm not going to skate it because it's great art.
It's great, great art.
lydia smith
It's amazing.
tim pool
So it is Friday night and let me tell you what happens now.
The first and most important thing.
Yeah, we'll plug it in.
Is it turned on?
adam crigler
No, I have to wait until you plug it in.
unidentified
Do do do do do do do do do do do.
Not knowing how to pair it up.
Oh, that probably bothered a lot of people.
lydia smith
Sorry, everyone.
tim pool
Now you got to turn it on.
adam crigler
Is the volume down on it?
tim pool
It is down.
Oh, that probably bothered a lot of people, too.
unidentified
All right, all right.
tim pool
So here's what's happening.
You can blame me.
We're basically wrapping up the show.
So if you had a good time, really, thanks for hanging out.
We do the shows Monday through Friday, 8 p.m.
live.
We upload clips throughout the day.
We've got a bunch of big projects on the way.
And in the next month or so, You are going to be shocked.
There's gonna be a new vlog channel.
We're gonna have more- we've been planning skateboarding and gaming.
We are expanding.
There's going to be probably some kind of written news outlet fact-checking.
This is all being built coming up the next month or so, so it's gonna be epic.
We're gonna have a vlog channel dedicated to crazy shenanigans.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
So make sure to follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Timcast.
You can follow at AdamKrigler because you can send him story ideas.
He posts a pinned tweet and then he'll ask for story suggestions.
He goes through them and we actually do use them.
And also we have at SourPatchLids.
L-Y-D-S.
And for now, if you've had a good time and you're done and you're ready to go to bed or whatever, I appreciate it.
Thanks for hanging out.
We're gonna stick around for the next maybe 20 minutes or half an hour or so.
Adam is gonna play some songs, so if you like Adam and enjoyed his rant, stick around for his music.
And I was gonna- I normally play- I haven't in the past couple weeks, but tomorrow I have to record actual vocal tracks for music.
So I've got to save my voice.
That being said, let's- is the jam cam on?
adam crigler
Is it on?
Do it.
I'm actually really excited for you to record some of those songs, and I know a lot of people out there are really excited.
Some people hit me up, they're like, man, I got your song in my head, I got Tim's song in my head, when are you guys gonna put some music out there?
Well, it's coming soon.
Yes, it's happening.
So, yeah, I don't know, I'll just play a couple songs.
This one's called Easy to Be.
unidentified
It's called Easy to Be.
I knew there was something else.
Something I could have done something about.
Oh Well I look misunderstood and I feel like I have let myself down.
Oh no Cause it's easy to be
It's easy to be Yeah, it's easy to be
you But I knew there was something else.
It's the power in the palm of my hand.
I can look into the mirror and suddenly I'm a man.
Oh, yeah Cuz it's easy to be
It's easy to be I knew there was something
else.
It's the power in the palm of our hands.
We have to look into the future and finally all take a stand
Oh yeah Cause it's easy to be, yeah, it's easy to be
It's easy to be It's so easy to be
It's so easy to be It's so easy to be
Thank you What's up, man?
Whoa.
adam crigler
Cheers for everybody who's still with us.
lydia smith
I like that one.
unidentified
Yeah!
lydia smith
I'd heard that one.
adam crigler
I'm trying to bust out some new stuff, you know?
unidentified
Lovin' it.
adam crigler
This one's called, If Justice is Dead.
So I played this one a little bit, but there's some words.
So I'm going to play the full song right now.
unidentified
So...
If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating
If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating
If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating And these are my thoughts for you
If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating
If justice is dead, then it's worth liberating Yeah, that's it.
It's kind of emotional.
Woo.
adam crigler
Woo.
Did you just boo me?
tim pool
I said, I'm woo.
I'm wooing you.
unidentified
Oh, you're wooing.
tim pool
I'm saying boo-ern.
unidentified
You certainly are wooing me, Tim.
adam crigler
Boo-ern.
So this one, actually, I wrote for a friend of mine in Chicago who had just gotten her heart broken.
And it's called Torn Photographs.
unidentified
It's a little sad and emotional.
adam crigler
But, you know, so is life.
unidentified
I come home late I get the feeling you're still here
Don't you remember?
Oh Oh
All of those things I did I did to prove to you All I wanted was a little something in return.
You think you'd be better off without me.
Baby, all I wanted was for you to be happy.
I guess I'm all out of luck, cause you were my everything.
And now I'm all torn up because, well now you're gone.
And obviously I'm alone With my thoughts and old torn photographs
Of distant smiles on the floor As you walk down the door
And I'm alone And I'm alone
And I'm alone ♪
♪ ♪
♪ I close my eyes
Only to find that you're still here you
A flash of light and one more memory slides to the floor.
Maybe I'm better going on without you, but that's gonna be so hard
Cause you think you'd be better off without me Baby, all I wanted was for you to be happy
I guess I'm all out of luck, because you were my everything.
Oh, and now I'm all torn up because now you're gone.
When obviously I'm alone With my thoughts and old torn photographs
Of distant smiles on the floor As you walked out the door
All the pain that you caused me when you walked out It didn't stop me from putting
All those pieces back together To see your face just one last time
Again Oh, again
Again Again
you Thank you.
tim pool
Boo earns.
unidentified
Boo earns.
Thank you.
adam crigler
Cheers, everybody.
What time we got?
tim pool
What time is it?
unidentified
10.17.
adam crigler
Should I play another one?
tim pool
It's up to you, man.
You want to play Taking It Back?
What's the other song that you play that I really like?
adam crigler
Find Yourself?
tim pool
Yeah, I think so.
adam crigler
Or is it the Melancholy Hellhound?
unidentified
Maybe.
Is it bluesy?
tim pool
I think so.
More aggressive.
adam crigler
Is it this one?
unidentified
Yeah, play it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I don't want your money.
me.
I just want some wine.
Yeah, give me some of your honey.
I promise I'll take my time Oh, welcome to the heartache
Try not to lose your way I find myself growing senseless
Oh, to the pain Yeah, you can stretch and crawl to figure it out
But in the end you'll find me Oh, I don't want your pity
And I don't want no lies Yeah
Give me some of your honey.
I promise I'll take my time.
Welcome to the heartache.
It always feels the same.
I find myself growing senseless Oh, to the pain
Yeah, you can scratch and crawl or figure it out But in the end you'll find me
Oh, well, I still get the feeling, whoa, of judgmental eyes.
Oh, indifference, Ben, it's just not worth my time.
Because I will come from over heartache.
Yeah.
Oh, it brings tears to my eyes.
you you
Yeah, those tears remind me, remind me I'm alive.
Alive, yeah.
I will stretch and crawl to figure it out But in the end you'll find me
Alright I'm outta here Woohoo!
Thank you everybody Woo!
adam crigler
Appreciate that.
unidentified
That was fun.
tim pool
Don't turn it off yet.
I'll just leave it.
Yeah, yeah, for now.
Oh, did I press the wrong one?
That's the fox button.
lydia smith
There we go.
tim pool
Hey, okay!
So, uh, nah, this is two weeks now I haven't gotten to play.
Well, last week I ended up losing my voice.
adam crigler
I don't mind playing, though.
tim pool
Because I ended up playing, uh, like, in the middle of me recording my actual segments, I played, like, six songs.
I gotta tell you, man, when you record four hours of talking every day and then add in singing with belting and everything, it's like... Oh, hey!
adam crigler
There's a lot of people still here.
Thank you, everybody.
lydia smith
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Cheers to everybody.
Somebody made a really good point.
Probably the biggest concert of the year.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
What you just played.
lydia smith
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
Think about it.
Because of COVID, there were 20,000 plus people watching when you started.
Dang!
How many people fit in like Wembley Stadium or whatever?
Probably a lot more than that.
I think it's like what?
adam crigler
This is probably the biggest show I've ever done.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's a huge number.
tim pool
Yeah, we do it every Friday.
What do we got to say?
adam crigler
Yeah, you know, it's a regular thing.
unidentified
We got a lot of stuff to do.
tim pool
Friends, there is so much going on.
We're going to go nuts.
We're going to we've got like the new vlog channel is going to be silly shenanigans, skits, music, music games.
It's going to be off like.
adam crigler
I really want to play covers, man.
I want to play a cover.
Someone asked me on Twitter, they said, look, before you jam, if you could do me a favor and just talk about your favorite bands.
And I just want to say, Incubus, Sublime, Led Zeppelin, Tool, Radiohead.
Muse actually is relatively new for me.
unidentified
Really?
adam crigler
Yeah, I always liked Muse, but it wasn't until I went and saw them in the beginning of the year.
It was Madison Square Garden.
I went and saw them.
unidentified
Wow!
adam crigler
Oh no, maybe it was last year.
I don't remember when I went and saw them, but oh wow, they blew me away.
They were so good live and every single song they played was good.
I was like, man, I love these guys.
So that's Muse.
Yeah.
So the newer music I'm starting to play is definitely influenced by Muse, but a lot of my like those like Torn Photographs, that's an older song of mine.
Actually, a lot of my songs are a little bit older, so.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm a big Muse fan and inspired by Muse, I'm writing a new song called I Love You But The Government Is Taking Over.
adam crigler
That's good.
tim pool
If you're not a Muse fan, I get it, but I think most people might understand.
They only ever write about either being in love or the government overreaching its powers.
lydia smith
And sometimes in the same song.
tim pool
And sometimes in the same song.
What was that one line?
adam crigler
That's a good point.
lydia smith
I love you, but they're watching us from above or something.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What is it?
lydia smith
You're so easy to love.
Everything about you is so easy to love.
tim pool
They're watching us from above.
lydia smith
Like, what?
tim pool
It's literally that line.
I love you, but the government is in control.
So anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.
adam crigler
Oh, there's some serious super chats that just came in.
Like, yeah, yeah.
Heavy hitters now.
tim pool
EZ said, why not Trump 2020?
Yeah, why not?
lydia smith
Thanks, man.
tim pool
But it's bedtime, so here's what's gonna happen.
I gotta actually wake up super early, but... Yeah, you do.
We're gonna light some stuff on fire.
adam crigler
Oh, like outside?
tim pool
In a fire pit.
The legal way.
unidentified
We're gonna burn this place down!
adam crigler
That was my best Alex Jones.
I've been working on it.
tim pool
I think in two months, we're gonna be started on all the new stuff.
It takes time.
lydia smith
I'm stoked.
adam crigler
I can't wait, dude.
tim pool
And everybody's like, what are they talking about?
It's a secret.
adam crigler
It is a secret.
I know the secret.
tim pool
We're gonna head out.
We're gonna go to bed.
Yeah.
Or sit around a fire.
But thanks for hanging out everybody.
We'll be back Monday at 8 p.m.
live on this channel.
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unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
adam crigler
Hold on.
unidentified
Smash it!
lydia smith
Okay.
adam crigler
Please continue.
tim pool
And we will see you all Monday.
Thanks for hanging out.
Adios everybody.
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