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June 9, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Anti Trump Professor Warns We ARE In Civil War, Leftist "Seize" Seattle Police Precinct
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unidentified
How's it going everybody?
tim pool
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
We are in a civil war, according to some professor.
That'll be fun.
But in the meantime, we're just going to hang out and talk about it.
So I'm hanging out with some buddies.
adam crigler
You know how we do.
We just hang out and talk about stuff.
What's up, everybody?
Adam Krigler here.
Hey, thanks for coming up.
tim pool
We also have the?
lydia smith
Sour Patch Lids.
tim pool
Lydia.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Why don't you pull that sucker about a fist distance away from your face?
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Pull that sucker in there.
lydia smith
Thanks, Joe.
adam crigler
Couldn't hear you.
Thanks, Joe.
tim pool
What's up, everybody?
unidentified
Hey!
tim pool
Yeah, we're just chillin'.
So, if you... We got a bunch of stories.
There's like an occupied... Antifa occupied zone in Seattle, which is kind of funny.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And also kind of scary in some ways.
lydia smith
You don't like that.
tim pool
I think a lot of people might underestimate how nuts these people are.
They're walking around in body armor with guns, apparently.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't really- what is their endgame?
tim pool
Are they gonna- Revolution.
adam crigler
Is that just their new little city?
tim pool
Uh, they will take as much as they can get.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start pushing the barriers back.
adam crigler
Yeah, but how are they gonna get into the supply chain of food and regular stuff?
tim pool
They're LARPing.
adam crigler
Ah, that makes sense.
tim pool
We'll see how that plays out.
So, uh, we got a bunch of other stories though, you know, crime is skyrocketing, Chicago is- man is Chicago messed up.
adam crigler
Yeah, Chicago's going crazy.
It's not surprising, actually.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a local politician in Chicago who was, like, slamming the mayor, Lori Lightfoot, and then she just cussed him out, and then he cussed back, and it was just, it's chaos in that city, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
He was talking about dudes walking around with AKs in the city, looking to settle some scores.
Like, it's the Purge, dude!
And that's what ended up happening.
So then, they're canceling the show Cops.
Seriously.
Democrats are freaking out trying to walk away from this defund the police thing.
Like the greatest gift to Donald Trump ever.
Seriously.
Like, you've got people calling for abolishing the police and defunding the police while
riots are wreaking havoc across the country.
Talk about a campaign ad for Trump.
adam crigler
What were they thinking?
It felt like the Democrats let loose a monster they had no idea.
It's like they hired the Joker.
lydia smith
Yeah, they've done this before.
tim pool
That's what I tweeted.
adam crigler
Oh, right?
Is that what you did?
tim pool
Yeah, Trump squeezed them.
He hammered them and made them desperate.
In their desperation, they turned to a group of people they didn't quite understand.
So, if you are just tuning in, make sure you smash that like button.
unidentified
Smash that like button!
tim pool
Smash it!
adam crigler
Also, for those of you that very much enjoy... So I got really into that one.
I'm not sorry.
tim pool
For those of you that very much enjoy the UFO, we have a new t-shirt called Spin the UFO!
And if you go to the description below, you can click the merch link, and there it is.
There is a Spin the UFO t-shirt.
You can pick yours up.
That's our plug for the show.
Also, Get in your superchats if you'd like, because we're going to talk about a bunch of crazy stuff.
I want to read this article from Prospect, from the founder.
He's like a liberal, progressive professor.
And he writes about all the different factions in Civil War, so get your questions in.
We won't be able to get to every single superchat, but we will read through as many as we can.
And yeah, usually first come, first serve, so the sooner you get in, the better.
But we do jump ahead later on in the show.
Adam is getting the UFO spinning for all of you.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
Well, someone super chatted, spin the UFO.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
adam crigler
That's what I was waiting for.
And actually, I didn't realize that they could see the UFO without being the wide shot, the super shot.
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
Can they?
adam crigler
Yeah, look, go to Tim.
lydia smith
Oh, hold on.
adam crigler
Boom.
lydia smith
A little bit.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, it was not spinning.
It was clearly not spinning, and that is not OK.
lydia smith
Now it is spinning.
adam crigler
So, and you were talking about the t-shirt, I was like, well, you know.
tim pool
We also got this thing, you see this?
adam crigler
Oh yeah, this is really neat.
Another Instagram ad, huh?
tim pool
No, I got this on Amazon.
This is a periodic table with all the actual elements except for the radioactive ones.
adam crigler
I wish I could zoom in.
I've seen an Instagram ad for that.
This desk is just gonna be one big Instagram ad one day.
tim pool
I got this on Amazon, bro.
adam crigler
Just kidding, dude.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
lydia smith
A collection of Curios.
tim pool
Yeah, I was looking for knickknacks.
lydia smith
There we go.
tim pool
Knickknacks!
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Welcome to the Civil War, ladies and gentlemen.
Or at least, that's what the professor says.
Why don't we just start talking about this here article?
adam crigler
Yeah, let's talk about it.
tim pool
Let's check out this thing.
You know, when I first saw this, I was curious because there have been a lot of people, for one, who have rolled their eyes shrugged and said, there's no Civil War.
Oh my god, Tim, you're so dumb.
lydia smith
So dramatic.
tim pool
You're so dramatic.
And I'm like, bro, I didn't just one day make up that there's a civil war.
I didn't sit in my room and be like, would it be cool if there was a civil war?
And I started saying it.
No, it was like the New York Magazine wrote about it.
After all of these street conflicts, they wrote about the prospect of a potential, of a coming civil war.
And I read this and I'm like, wow, that's crazy.
People are actually saying this might happen.
Then you get the article from the Atlantic on Thucydides' trap in China and all this stuff.
Bill Maher comes out.
Bill Maher, like last year he was like, this kind of rhetoric is getting dangerous and it's escalated to the point where we're on the verge of a civil war or something like that.
So it's like all these people are talking about it and now we have an actual professor.
What's interesting about this article is this professor is actually like anti-Trump lefty.
So his perspective on it is really interesting and what I find The most fascinating about it is clearly he views himself as the righteous, virtuous, you know, good guy.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And he views every other faction as the bad guys, the deplorables, whatever.
Trump is corrupt and using the political powers for personal gain and all this other nonsense.
What's fascinating about this mentality is, you know, we here on this show probably find ourselves more on the libertarian spectrum opposed to what these people represent.
You know, I think the simple way to put it is, orange man bad, but not that bad.
You know what I mean?
It's like the easiest way to put it.
And, so I often question myself, like, are we, you know, who's the right side?
Who's the real?
lydia smith
Are we the baddies?
tim pool
Not so much the baddies, because, you know, people think there's good guys and bad guys.
unidentified
There aren't.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's so, it's more like, who's blind?
Who's wrong?
You know, who's wrong?
And really, history is written by the victors, so.
adam crigler
Both sides have blind people.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, but... Just believe him because they want to believe it.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
But I think I'm right.
He thinks he's right.
I think he's wrong.
I think he's very wrong.
And I think he probably gets his media from... his information is distilled through a lens of insanity.
So I actually read the same news he does, and I read the same news that conservatives do, and then I'm like, oh, clearly this is what's happening.
These people on the left only get their news from these particular sources, and so they end up getting, you know, this skewed perception on what's really going on in the world.
Let's read this article.
It's a little bit.
I want to go.
He talks about the factions, which is really interesting.
Here's what he says.
See, I don't agree with that.
That's the central driver?
War as it has come since 1861 and once again the central driver is America's founding stain,
unidentified
No.
tim pool
deep persistent brutal racism. See I don't agree with that.
That's the central driver? No, no it's not. It's a strong start. Right so so that's but it's
good because it's his perspective.
lydia smith
Right, he's setting it up.
tim pool
He thinks we are this awful racist country.
No way, man.
America is one of the least racist countries on the planet.
Coming from someone who's been to a bunch of them.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
I mean, like, I think Japan's awesome.
Love Japan?
Super racist.
lydia smith
Very racist.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm part Korean.
Korea's great.
Ridiculously racist.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
Like, dude, Korean racism is... wow!
They're like ethno-supremacists, man.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, they think they're like the supreme race.
Not all of them.
They've been getting kind of like, you know, chilled out.
But it has a lot to do with how the Koreans were essentially enslaved, you know, occupied by the Japanese.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So they created this identity as a way to resist, you know, the Japanese oppression and stuff like that.
Now they view themselves as like the best.
And, you know, I mean this with all due respect, South Korea, But when I went there, they had this museum talking about
their great general.
This is really, really funny.
They were talking about all the great battles he won.
And they show you like the first battle of his great victory, and he's got like 50 ships.
And then they were like, it was a tremendous day for a general, whatever.
And then it was like, the next great victory occurred, and he had 10 ships.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And then the next great victory had three ships.
And I'm like, what they're not telling you is how many times he lost between those great victories.
So, you know, so they're writing their history.
Uh, but anyway, I, for me, I think what's driving this is authoritarianism versus libertarianism.
That's, that's, that's the main driver.
Because for me, I'm all about freedom, liberty, civil rights, and all that.
And the opposing factions throw that all out the window.
Let's keep reading and see what he says.
He says the current civil war doesn't have front lines that you can track on a map like the pins in Franklin Roosevelt's World War II maps.
It's more of a guerrilla civil war like Vietnam's that breaks out anywhere and everywhere.
But while its front lines are diffuse, they are real.
They include every demonstration with peaceful protesters on one side of the line and coiled vicious cops on the other.
Now see, here's another problem with his point of view.
What about when a bunch of Trump supporters go to a park to wave little American flags, and then Antifa shows up and beats the crap out of them?
adam crigler
Or the rioters that have nothing to do with the peaceful protesters.
tim pool
Yeah.
This guy's clearly got a skewed perspective.
That's the point.
We'll keep reading.
What?
It's the White House.
I'm so confused right now.
Yeah, for a long time.
Obama's fortress.
mansion.
Where there is...
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
It's the White House.
tim pool
It's the White House.
lydia smith
I'm so confused right now.
adam crigler
You know, it's been that way for a long time, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, for a long time.
adam crigler
Trump didn't make it a fortress.
Obama's fortress.
tim pool
Obama's fortress.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
There is a literal struggle for who is in charge of the streets of our capital city.
Donald Trump or D.C.' 's nervy mayor Muriel Bowser.
Now that's fair.
They are fighting.
We've seen it in countless other cities where other progressive mayors are forced to admit they can't control their own rogue police forces.
And I will counter that by saying they also can't control rogue factions that literally have seized a seven block radius in Seattle calling it a free zone or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The essence of a civil war is rival between claimants to the legitimate right to use force.
And we are now on the brink of a situation where the force will confront force, as Trump tries to use the military against unwilling governors and state national guards.
But that's just ridiculous because Trump isn't going to use the military.
This guy's living in Wally World.
The fault lines include the trench warfare between the honorable leaders of our country's armed services, who resist this illegitimate use, and Trump's own efforts to commandeer the military for an armed occupation of the country.
In much of the world, this kind of a standoff ends with a military coup, does it?
There was a civil war of American democracy versus Trump's paramilitary stormtroopers, many of whom are armed and prepared to resort to force to keep Trump in office.
That's just called law enforcement.
either by disrupting the election, what?
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Or by making it impossible for an elected successor to take office.
Is what paramilitary stormtroopers?
adam crigler
Right, this is getting a little ridiculous, man.
tim pool
This is a professor at a university.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
He's got a Wikipedia page.
adam crigler
Is that what it is?
tim pool
Is prospect, prospect magazine or whatever.
This is not some fringe.
No name.
I mean, he's a Professor dude, what does he teach?
adam crigler
This is what he but what is he saying?
Oh, yeah, all I see is a bunch of just opinions.
Yeah, so far He's like this is what was happening.
But it's where's your where's your proof?
You're not backing it up with stuff.
tim pool
You're just spouting stuff That's why I said in the beginning.
I'm right.
He's wrong Yeah, okay, carry on.
unidentified
Journalism?
tim pool
Yeah, it was... Yeah, what's his name?
I know, I sent you the link.
or influences as a professor.
adam crigler
Journalism?
tim pool
Yeah.
I think he's a journalism professor.
You want to look him up?
Yeah, what's his name?
His name is Robert Kutner.
I know, I sent you the link.
Yeah, K-U-T-T-N-E-R.
Yeah, alright, thanks.
But no, this is the interesting part.
He says, the lines include Trump and his White House loyalists versus the so-called deep
state made up of people serving in government who work to uphold the law, risking their
jobs if they offend our would-be dictator.
Amazing.
The incipient civil war reflects a polarization of society along party lines, but contrary to a lot of commentary, the polarization is anything but symmetrical.
One party has shown itself willing to destroy democratic institutions for partisan gain.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a Democrat.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
Is he talking about Democrats?
I think he is.
The Civil War is also cultural, with two deeply antagonistic cultures, each convinced that the other is ruinous.
But one of those cultures, despite its professed religiosity, is increasingly nihilist.
This is really, really funny.
What he's saying is so similar to what people say about them.
lydia smith
Yeah.
It's like he's projecting.
tim pool
Yeah, or it doesn't matter who's right or wrong.
Literally doesn't.
Because people are convinced that they're the moral superiors.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And then war breaks out.
lydia smith
100%.
tim pool
Did you look him up?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Oh, so he does teach, yeah.
Hold on.
tim pool
Journalism?
lydia smith
Yeah, he's an American journalist and writer whose works present a liberal-slash-progressive point of view.
Oh, you're telling me.
unidentified
Thanks, Wikipedia.
tim pool
This guy doesn't even have Google.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
This guy gets his opinions straight out of a can.
lydia smith
Love it.
tim pool
His opinions come from, like, a distilled NPR feed right to his ears.
lydia smith
Seriously.
Very original.
tim pool
At a more fundamental level, the Civil War is deeply racial, in a way that evokes the fraught period that prefigured America's one true civil war.
From about 1820 right up until the Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter in April 1861, the slave-holding South never accepted federal power if there was the slightest chance that the national government would interfere with slavery.
The doctrine of nullification, ostensibly about tariffs, was really about slavery.
I don't care to read about whatever that is.
Anyway, you know what, man?
Let's read the end.
He is starting the rallies again.
behind White House walls is emblematic of his increasing political isolation. But he and his
unidentified
No.
tim pool
followers still have immense power to wreak havoc. I mean, didn't Trump just go on a bunch of trips?
And isn't he planning now a bunch of rallies? Starting the rallies again. This dude doesn't
have Google, does he? No. And he writes like this, you know, he doesn't want Google.
There will not be a coup d'etat, either by the military to oust Trump or by Trump to shut down
Congress and recalcitrant governors and mayors.
What there will be is ongoing trench warfare, over five more agonizing months.
We will then learn whether the power of an aroused people can keep a dictator at bay, and even if Trump is defeated, residual racism and hatred will linger.
Man, this guy's teaching kids.
Journalism.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah.
tim pool
Journalism.
That's ridiculous.
more apt. The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new
cannot be born. In this interregnum, a great variety of morbid symptoms appear."
adam crigler
Man, this guy is teaching kids.
lydia smith
Journalism. Yes. Yeah.
unidentified
Journalism.
adam crigler
That's ridiculous.
lydia smith
So that explains a lot.
tim pool
It's interesting what he said at the end, though, that the old won't die and the new
is trying to be born.
That's interesting.
The argument that progress is always a good—like, you know, I hate the way they frame that, but there's this argument that progress, for the sake of progress, is the right way to go.
Like, it's possible progress can be a bad thing.
It's possible that tradition can be a good thing.
It's possible that tradition can be a bad thing as well, and progress can be a good thing.
I think in this country we've had a lot of great progress.
Civil rights, for instance.
adam crigler
Definitely.
We've come a long way as a country.
tim pool
And, you know, basically the way I see how it works is you don't want to just hold on to tradition blindly.
It helped you get to where you are, but you've got to keep reevaluating what you're doing and adapt and improve.
And that's progress.
Reform.
unidentified
Reform.
lydia smith
Hey, that's what this country's all about, man.
tim pool
Several decades of reform.
Or I should say, you know, more than several decades.
Centuries, yeah.
Where we've consistently reformed everything.
We had a war over some of that reform.
And never really a hard revolution or revolt where people just like wiped out our laws.
lydia smith
Well, that's what this is, I guess.
adam crigler
I was reading an article last night about how Antifa, they've been infiltrating high schools and colleges and trying to gather, you know, more people there because they're young and ignorant and they have no idea.
That's a fact.
And then we got professors like this spouting this kind of stuff.
tim pool
These professors have been doing this thing for a long, long time, though.
lydia smith
Dude, the guy behind the bike lock was a professor.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
This guy also went to... Robert Putner also went to Berkeley.
I don't remember the guy with the bike locks.
tim pool
The bike lock basher.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Do you know the bike lock basher is?
adam crigler
Is that the board you made?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Is that about that story?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Can we show that?
No.
No, we can't show it?
Even for... just for our audience?
tim pool
I don't want to do it.
unidentified
No?
tim pool
I got in trouble.
I got in trouble.
adam crigler
I tried.
I want to show you guys.
tim pool
I think... I think the joke was lost.
And I recognize that it probably was in poor taste.
lydia smith
Yeah, Eric Clanton.
tim pool
and other year probation deal. So here's the joke. I they wrote liberals get the bullet to on a wall in
Berkeley. So I designed this you know sunburst graphic using
the revolution fist and put a bike lock in its hand and it says liberals get the bike lock to and it
was supposed to be making fun of them because they're pathetic and violent.
Yeah.
And, yeah, YouTube was not happy.
They were like, people who don't understand the context, like, this is the way it kind of came off, are going to think you're literally saying to go bash liberals because they don't understand what this is supposed to be a reference to.
lydia smith
A little nuanced.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And I'm like, that's actually a good point.
Like, it sounds like I'm saying bash liberals at the bike clock.
Cause that's what they were saying, but I was making fun of them.
So yeah.
So, you know, anyway.
adam crigler
Well, there you have it.
tim pool
This guy bashed seven people over the head with a bike lock and then he basically gets off, you know, but yeah.
So at Berkeley, it's interesting.
You bring up the high school thing because there's a high school right next to that park.
And some kids came out when this protest was going on and they were complaining to a lot of the people there that the teachers force them to, uh, agree with social justice.
Like it's a religious class.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I've seen this.
tim pool
Yeah, this kid was telling me that, like, they will tell you to write an essay about, you know, your white privilege or something, and then when you're like, I don't believe that's a thing, F. Wow.
Yeah, it's like, what?
White privilege is not a fact, but they claim it is.
No, it's not.
It's critical race theory or some other nonsense.
So you're gonna have... I don't know, man.
I think, in that regard, we might end up seeing a bunch of kids reject all of this.
lydia smith
Yeah, isn't Gen Z already rejecting a bunch of it?
tim pool
Some of them.
lydia smith
Well, yeah.
tim pool
Not all of them.
Yeah, because a lot of, you know, kids rebel, you know?
So you get a bunch of millennials who are like, what, in their mid-30s now, telling these, you know, 15-year-olds who are 20 years younger that, you can't say those things, you can't say that, and so what are the kids gonna do?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
Like, some of these millennials, like, Gen Z are their kids.
You got a 35-year-old woman whose name is Karen, and she's an SJW millennial, and she had a kid when she was 20, and the kid's now... Yeah, and he's like, shut up, Mom, you're dumb!
You're so stupid, Karen!
adam crigler
You had a kid when you were 15?
Why can't I?
tim pool
Jake Tapper...
Apparently said, I think it was Jake Tapper, I could be wrong, that his kid calls him fake news when he gets mad at him.
adam crigler
That's amazing.
tim pool
He's like, you're fake news!
lydia smith
That's really funny, okay.
tim pool
That means you understand this kid is being influenced by... President Trump?
Yeah, by Trump and by, you know, so... That's awesome.
This is actually really interesting because there's one stat that I like to cite from Pew.
Gen Z is the first generation in like a hundred years to be more conservative than the last.
adam crigler
That's great.
tim pool
They're only slightly more conservative.
They're actually a little bit more progressive on some things, but then conservative on other issues.
adam crigler
That gives me a slight amount of hope.
Just a little bit.
Just as you said, just a little bit more.
tim pool
I think millennials are like a lost generation.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
yeah yeah i'm like uh i am right on the cusp i was 84 so no that's millennial well it used to be it used to be 85 then it was 84 no now it's 83 no it keep trust me i've been watching it man it's been it's been pushed being pushed there's different further and further back there's different schools i remember click tvs all right i had to go and change to the tv right i had that when i was little my goodness okay yeah all right it's millennial Yeah, millennial was supposed to be like coming of age in the year 2000 or something like that.
Right.
tim pool
And so I think by some standards, it's like 1980.
Okay.
Yeah, my sister is a millennial.
adam crigler
It pushes back a little further.
tim pool
Yeah, because Gen Xers were, like, graduating college in the early to mid 90s.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right.
Like, the Gen Xers were born in the 70s, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, I want to say, like, late 60s to almost up to 80, because each generation is technically about 20 years.
Yeah.
tim pool
Man, so Gen X is now, what, 50 and 60 or whatever?
lydia smith
No, Gen X is, like, late 40s, early 50s, I think.
tim pool
Old people!
They're all boomers.
adam crigler
It seems like the consensus is 82.
A lot of people are posting right now about what a millennial is.
tim pool
Millennials?
adam crigler
I guess that would make sense.
unidentified
81.
adam crigler
A lot of 81s.
So maybe that's it.
tim pool
The reason I think this is like, what do millennials do?
They complain a lot.
Myself included.
They're not running for office for the most part.
adam crigler
I don't like to complain.
That always bugs me about people complaining.
I'm like, well, hey, what have you done to fix that?
Well, nothing.
I'm just complaining.
I was like, all right, well, stop complaining to me then.
What's your plan to fix it?
I always like moving forward and figuring out a way forward.
I don't like wallowing, sitting and wallowing in your misery.
I mean, I've been there before, but then I've learned over my life.
It's like, it's better to look forward and be like, I can either change it or I can't.
And those are your two options.
tim pool
Maybe a better way to put it is they have no purpose.
adam crigler
True.
If you don't have a purpose, then you can't even see the future.
Totally agree with you.
tim pool
Yeah, they don't do anything.
I mean, it's crazy because most of the people I know are kind of living the same way I am.
No kids, no family.
lydia smith
Kind of winging it?
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know what it is, man.
I blame the boomers.
unidentified
It's all their fault. You blame the boomers. I blame the boomers. Yeah, because they were the hippies. They had hippie
tim pool
kids.
adam crigler
See, this is the thing. It's like everyone always wants that. They want to blame someone.
Well, no, not me. I want to blame anyone else. I don't care.
I'm going to find the person to blame.
There's always someone to blame. It's like, alright, look, we're all in this together.
Society is the way it is.
How do we move forward together and figure it out?
I don't want to blame anyone.
I'm part of the problem.
Everyone's part of the problem.
Everybody is.
Everyone can make a choice to move forward together.
We've got to figure out how to do that and stop blaming.
tim pool
But I think the first thing is, when I say I blame them, I'm really referencing that You know, is it really a problem we don't live the way our grandparents lived?
adam crigler
I mean, think about it though.
World War I, then there was the Great Depression, and then World War II.
So that was like a 50 year span, you know?
Less, maybe 30, 40 years, you know?
Life was not Incredibly hard.
Right?
After World War II, it's like, they were like, wow, this is what life is like now.
We don't, we're not at war.
Now we get to live and just have babies.
I don't blame them for having all the boomer, the boom, you know, it makes sense.
So then how did we get here now?
You know, it's because of that.
So it's not necessarily their fault.
They're just, there was just this wave.
It's just up and down and up and down through the years.
Now we're here.
tim pool
And the bad times come next.
adam crigler
People want to blame others, though, instead of just, we gotta come together, yo.
tim pool
Well, no, the point I was gonna make is, blame them for what, I guess?
Like, if every generation is different based on their circumstances, then maybe this is just it, who cares?
lydia smith
I think!
tim pool
I have a theory.
lydia smith
Okay, I have a theory.
So, boomers really, really wanted millennials to never suffer anything at all, right?
Because their parents, boomers' parents, went through some really, really hard times.
Like the Depression, and World War II, and everything.
So they wanted their kids to do well.
They spoiled the boomers, the boomers spoiled the millennials.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
You're missing a link between... Is it Gen X?
Who's between the Boomers and Millennials?
tim pool
Well, the Boomers give birth to the Millennials.
And then the Gen X come from, I think, what?
lydia smith
The generation before Boomers.
tim pool
What was that?
lydia smith
Was it the Greatest?
I want to say the Greatest Generation.
Yeah.
tim pool
We got a screaming kid in here now.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, what is happening?
tim pool
He's screaming.
adam crigler
He wants to go outside.
He's spoiled.
lydia smith
He is, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, I think... Was it Greatest?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think Greatest.
Hold on, let me look.
tim pool
The greatest generation had... So wait, who had... No, no, wait.
I don't know my generation.
lydia smith
They're confusing.
tim pool
Was the silent generation had the boomers?
lydia smith
Let me check.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
adam crigler
You know, it's silly that we try to lump everyone together because, you know, everyone who's born in a different year goes through such a drastic difference.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
And then we got to think about where they're living, you know, what kind of environment they've grown up with, you know, their family situation.
Everyone's so different, drastically different.
You know, it doesn't matter what generation you are.
There's definitely lazy people and awesome, motivated people and, you know, a-holes.
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
They're everywhere.
You know about the generational theory?
unidentified
What about it?
tim pool
I forgot what it's called.
It's called something something generational theory where it's like every there's like four steps you know every 20 years something like this.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And that always ends in some like great war or catastrophe or like mass death.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Strauss-Howe?
tim pool
Yeah is that what it is?
lydia smith
The fourth turning theory or simply the fourth turning describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history and global history.
tim pool
Yeah so aren't we on track for like 2020 to be like war?
lydia smith
Well, that's what that guy's article was about.
tim pool
The one where we were talking about... You want to pull up that Strauss thing?
Yeah, hold on.
adam crigler
But don't you think we can break the cycle?
You know, we're at a time of... We're together.
Social media.
We weren't ready for it, but we've got it.
It's here.
You know, we can connect.
We've got all this available.
Hey, Boku.
unidentified
There's a Boku-san.
lydia smith
There's a kitty.
adam crigler
I don't know if he wants to.
tim pool
No, I think it's too late.
adam crigler
You think it's too late?
tim pool
Yeah, I think the generation before the boomers had the opportunity to make sure that we didn't enter the whiny baby cycle of the generational theory.
Basically, you have a whole generation of people who have never experienced hardship.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And so they're extremely spoiled and don't know.
adam crigler
Their hardship is not having internet.
tim pool
Their hardship is I said a naughty word.
I kid you not.
adam crigler
It's like even worse.
tim pool
You say a naughty word and they cry.
Did you see that viral video of the woman crying because she got a Trump email?
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
Dude, what is wrong with these people?
And she doesn't look like a millennial.
She looks like she's in her 20s.
adam crigler
Or the other video where the girl was driving and someone flicked her off.
Yeah, their mom went like hunting down and like told her mom and her you see you just see the mom Karen like storm
Pastor like whoa, it's like in there's flames coming off of that Karen
tim pool
It's like it's like in Dragon Ball Z when Goku goes Super Saiyan, but instead the hair turns into the Karen
unidentified
She finds the car did you flick off my daughter? Yeah, no that was she really thinking she's gonna find the car
lydia smith
No idea what she was thinking.
unidentified
What was your plan?
adam crigler
Come on!
tim pool
It reminds me of that comic I was talking about the other day, where it's like, back then, the teacher says, your child is failing, and the parents look at the kid and say, what did you do?
And then it's like, now, the teacher says, your child's failing, and they look at the teacher and say, what did you do?
adam crigler
Right.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
It's your fault our precious snowflake can do no wrong.
adam crigler
It feels like it's slowly getting rid of the First Amendment.
The freedom of speech.
Like, what happened to that?
Like, I don't care who you are.
unidentified
It's gone.
adam crigler
It feels like it.
Like, you should be able to say whatever.
And like, we gotta have thick skin.
It's like, say whatever.
I don't care what you say.
Because what you say doesn't affect me.
That is gone.
tim pool
Not anymore.
There's a new religion, buddy.
adam crigler
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I disagree.
It's not gone.
It's gone among a certain amount of people, yes, sure.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
But in the general public, I don't think so.
tim pool
So when you can't go to church without being fined or arrested, but Black Lives Matter can go on protest, that's called the government enforcing morality policing.
adam crigler
Yeah, and it's pissing a lot of people off.
I've seen countless people just like, we're done with this.
tim pool
No, wait, I don't believe it, man.
I see so many people.
Look, how many thousands?
I mean, maybe, maybe.
Maybe we're just seeing the vocal minority out in the streets screaming.
adam crigler
I think so.
tim pool
I see all the posts on Facebook, and I ask some of these people, like, don't you see a contradiction in the government targeting these, you know, people who want to go to church, but you being allowed?
And they said, well, we're fighting injustice.
We're more important.
People can go to church whenever they want.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's like you do you they can't think their brains don't work Yeah, so the point I was making is the previous generation had a chance to stop the cycle Okay, by making sure these kids didn't become that final You know that final generation that knows no has no understanding of how hard things really get and then cause the collapse.
Yeah Then the chaos ensues everything gets bad again, and then the life sucks.
unidentified
Oh Yeah.
tim pool
Which brings us to our next story.
lydia smith
That is the Strauss-Howe theory.
tim pool
The next story we have is about, uh, this is great.
Seattle's sleepless as authorities mobilize after locals declare, quote, free zone.
The free Capitol Hill zone, or the Capitol Hill free zone, is about seven city blocks in Seattle, which are currently being occupied by antifa far left types.
The police have retreated.
They've abandoned the east precinct in Seattle.
And now these protesters, or whatever you want to call them, extremists, far left, whatever, are wearing body armor.
And they're getting weapons.
And they're armed.
And they're extremely dumb.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
How long is this going to last?
That's all I think.
It's like we've been in Christianity together.
For those who don't know, Christiania is a free state inside Copenhagen, the city of Copenhagen.
They consider themselves completely separate, very similar to this, but you go in there and it's a huge plot of land.
It used to be a military base that in the 70s or maybe the 60s they let go of it and then hippies moved in and slowly turned it into basically a free state.
So, and it's successful.
They grow food there.
They have like a functioning society.
And I'm looking at this and I just... I see a bunch of people that want stuff, but have no idea how to go about getting it.
But they're demanding.
Go ahead.
tim pool
Well, take a look at these photos.
These are some of the photos from the article.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
tim pool
So you can see the barricades over here.
They've got businesses.
The funny thing about it is apparently they've forced the businesses inside the zone to, quote, disaffiliate from the city.
Probably means nothing other than them being like, okay, we disaffiliated.
But the police aren't doing anything.
They're just going to let it go.
I think this is, it's possible this is the right move.
It's also possible that this is an extremely dangerous move.
It might be the right thing because we'll let the kids maybe have his bottle, and then maybe they get tired and go home.
Then they can come in and sweep things up.
I don't think that's gonna happen.
I think they've just been given an occupation, and like we saw with Zuccotti Park in New York, a bunch of people are probably now rushing full speed to Seattle to see the occupied zone, the free zone.
I'm willing to bet all those people that went to Minnesota, drove up, are like, we gotta go to Seattle, man!
There's like an anarchist thing they took over.
And then you're gonna see a bunch of people with weapons, and they're gonna bolster their defenses, and they're gonna take this part of the city.
And the longer it goes on, the harder it'll be for the police to actually deal with it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
This right now, considering the past week of what they're calling an uprising, or the revolution, I'm willing to bet they're all rushing full speed to Seattle right now.
adam crigler
That wouldn't surprise me.
tim pool
So what are they doing?
Are the police gonna wait?
You know what's crazy though?
Apparently, I guess the reason the cops backed off and let them have the department, the precinct, is because they received 12,000 complaints about the use of tear gas.
So all of the locals in the area were like, stop.
The cops were like, alright.
The cops left.
So what are these people going to end up doing?
I think it might end up being like an Occupy Wall Street thing.
It'll be there for several months, maybe.
They're gonna get tons of donations, they're gonna get funds, and they're gonna stay there.
adam crigler
That whole thing freaks me out, the donation thing, because I just learned about that.
I mean, it's not really in tune with this, you know, but... What, the Act Blue thing?
Yeah, the Act Blue.
tim pool
What is that about?
adam crigler
So, you know, if you want to donate to Black Lives Matter, it goes into Act Blue, which is a democratic, like, donation.
tim pool
But is that, like, the official Black Lives Matter organization?
adam crigler
Uh, I don't know.
It's a good point.
But they've gotten millions and millions of dollars.
tim pool
I did see, right, the organization has.
adam crigler
Yeah, and I was reading, I mean, I looked into it, and I'm reading down, and it's like, this money is to help, like, create, like, a democratic society.
And I was just like, wait, how does that, what does that have to do with Black Lives Matter?
This is the Democrats, like, taking the Black Lives Matter money?
What is going on?
tim pool
I got a question.
So you know that the South was the Democrats, right?
The Southern Democrats were the racists, Jim Crow.
adam crigler
Yeah, interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, the Democrats was the party of the Klan and all this racism.
And then you ask some of these Democrats and they'll tell you that the party's switched, like that Civil War professor guy who wrote about the Civil War.
It's like, oh, but Nixon started to realize he could pander to white racists in the South to win.
And it's like, well, hold on, man, hold on.
When have the Democrats actually ever done anything to not be racist?
It's a serious question, because they're the party of racism, they're the party of the Klan, and all these really awful things, they're remnants of the Confederacy.
And then what's going on today?
All of the big racism problems are literally in Democratic-controlled areas.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
You're 100% right.
And then you think about, look at their frontrunner, Biden.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
What?
Oh.
tim pool
like history of racism.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.
It's like, yeah, you ain't wait, wait, what does that have to do with white?
Like what are you talking about?
tim pool
Oh, but he was just being silly.
You understand Joe.
It's like, but this is all the time we talking about.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He says these things all the time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Biden says some racist stuff.
It's crazy.
tim pool
But he's, he's also got a voting history that apparently has been, has been
criticized for being racist.
So I'm not gonna track down Biden's voting history and argue whether it was or wasn't.
He was a product of The Times for sure.
But I would just ask the people who are voting for Democrats, how can you justify that your party isn't racist?
How can you prove that when you're literally remnants of the Confederacy?
And to this day, all of the problems of racism that you keep bringing up are in your cities.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
What are you going to change?
Right now you've got Chicago, you've got a black mayor, Lori Lightfoot, you've got tons of black aldermen, and you've got rioting and destruction throughout the city.
Apparently, this is crazy, we don't even know the full scale of what happened in Chicago.
It's like a lot of it hasn't been covered.
Apparently people were stealing buses.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Like city buses, they were stealing stuff.
So, why are they rioting there?
It's like, it's a Democratic-controlled city with a Democratic governor and Democratic congressmen and Democratic senators, Democratic mayor.
adam crigler
Trump's fault.
tim pool
Yeah, the Republicans are racist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, that's just, I, look, man.
adam crigler
And, you know, I actually just read this article earlier today about the, you know, I don't know if anyone's seen this, but a bunch of the Democrats wore these kente?
tim pool
Kente cloths.
adam crigler
Kente cloths.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Right?
And they were taking a knee.
And all these Africans are posting these videos like, what are they wearing?
How dare these people?
That's not even an American thing.
That's our thing.
How dare you?
And then I'm reading into it more.
It's like those specific ones were from a tribe that had history of slavery themselves.
And I was like, oh, that's bad.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
adam crigler
Did you hear about that?
unidentified
What?
No, I didn't hear about that.
adam crigler
The cloths that they wore are specifically from a tribe that actually did slavery stuff.
Oh, snap!
tim pool
No, is that for real?
lydia smith
Failed virtue signal.
tim pool
We should confirm that one.
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey.
lydia smith
I trust Adam.
adam crigler
I've been reading so much about all the different Africans that have been pissed off about this.
It's like mad, mad Africans are pissed.
They're posting all these videos talking about like, how dare they?
tim pool
They don't care, dude.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
They don't care.
tim pool
You can get Kanye West.
adam crigler
They're pandering, man.
tim pool
One of the most successful and famous, you know, black people in this country.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Kanye rocks.
And they call him mentally ill.
When Kanye came out and said that he liked Trump, they ran his article saying, oh, poor Kanye.
He's gone crazy.
He's mentally ill.
lydia smith
He's been a little bit crazy.
tim pool
Like, talk about racist, dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's nuts.
tim pool
Yeah, come on, man.
You know why they were doing it.
Oh yeah.
Candace Owens comes out and gives her opinion, and they say that she's a grifter and she's lying and she's wrong.
lydia smith
Aunt Jemima?
tim pool
She's a white supremacist.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, they call her all of these racial slurs.
Dude, you know what, man?
I was having a conversation with a friend about Antifa, and the funniest thing is the success of Antifa propaganda, that one, they're not really an organization, and two, it just means you're anti-fascist.
And I'm like, listen, If a taxi company started a violent group that hated Uber called Anti-Uber, just because I think they're insane doesn't mean I support Uber.
That's the thing.
They say, we're anti-fascist.
Yeah, dude, pedophiles could be anti-fascist.
You know what I mean?
Like, just because you're claiming you're anti-fascist doesn't mean the rest of what you do is a good thing.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And so they claim that so they can mask the fact that they're actually associated with the communist, you know, Germany.
History is communist Germans before the rise of Hitler.
And then they try and recruit people with that.
It works.
And people are like, but are you saying you support fascism?
And I'm like, What?
adam crigler
Where did you get that?
tim pool
Yeah, like, thinking violence is bad.
They've successfully... It's fascinating to me.
The other funny thing about these people is that they've actually convinced all these high-profile personalities to be, like, showing U-boats.
We talked about this the other day, didn't we?
adam crigler
Yeah, the D-Day thing.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, we were at war with Germany.
Like, what are you talking about?
These people are not Antifa.
It's just ridiculous.
Check this out.
unidentified
This is funny.
tim pool
So this is from Michael Tracy.
He says, this is one of the individuals running the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle, no additional commentary from me needed, lol.
So this individual is 18, she, they, lesbian anarchist, abolished whiteness, capitalism, and civilization.
unidentified
Cash app, generalissima.
tim pool
Born July 10th, 2001.
Oh no.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Did you see the dude who stoked, one of the guys who stoked the fires at the 3rd Precinct in Milwaukee, in Minneapolis?
adam crigler
Got caught?
tim pool
He got caught and he was, boy was that guy dumb as a box of rocks.
adam crigler
Was he?
tim pool
I didn't see that.
He stole ammo, he stole body armor, cuffs, batons, and a helmet.
He was walking around wearing it.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
And some people were like...
He wrote his name.
He wrote his name on a dark tape and put it on the back of the armor.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
That's some bold.
adam crigler
Talk about really dumb.
lydia smith
That is a bold strategy.
tim pool
Dude, these people are... Is this why I said I blame the parents, man?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Come on, man.
No, look, she's 18.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Dude, I'm so glad.
tim pool
And you're an adult.
You're an adult at 18, okay?
I'm sorry.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
That's your responsibility.
adam crigler
That's the way it is in this country.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
But, uh, I do think it's funny, like, born 2001, and you, like, you think you're a revolutionary, the generalissima who wants to abolish civilization.
What?
lydia smith
And capitalism with their cash out.
unidentified
No, no, no.
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
I'm just saying.
adam crigler
How can you be she and they at the same time?
If you're a lesbian, you're a girl.
Isn't that the case?
tim pool
There's no rules.
adam crigler
But lesbian is a girl that likes girls.
lydia smith
Only feelings.
adam crigler
Specific.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Facts.
How would it be they?
tim pool
Because gender identity is... Fluid?
I don't know, man.
There's no rules.
Nothing makes sense.
The other question I have is, and this is funny because I tweeted about this, and a bunch of people got really, really mad.
Like it's really triggered these lefties.
I asked, legitimately, why are so many anti-fascists furries?
adam crigler
Yeah, I saw that tweet.
tim pool
But I'm not disparaging furries.
adam crigler
You're actually asking, I know.
tim pool
It's a legitimate question.
There's a really high-profile cartoon squirrel that's constantly doxing people and harassing people with tons of followers.
And there's a bunch of furries.
They're called fursonas, I think.
Their avatar is their self-designed art of themselves as a cartoon animal.
Hey man, look, I'm all about liberty, so I don't care if you're a furry, like, do whatever you want, man.
adam crigler
You know, you keep saying, you know, blame it's the parents, they're bad parents.
A lot of these young parents give their kids iPads.
Here, here you go.
And then what do they watch?
They watch cartoons.
So they grow up idolizing cartoons instead of their parents.
Instead of having parents that they look up to, they're like, wow, I want to be like that person.
They watch and are raised by cartoons.
tim pool
And they see anthropomorphized animals as society, and then ingrained in their personality.
adam crigler
It's honestly not that surprising.
tim pool
But that's not my issue.
It's sad.
My issue isn't that people are furry.
I don't care.
adam crigler
No, no, I know.
I'm just making notes.
I just noticed that.
tim pool
Why are they Antifa?
adam crigler
I don't know.
They want purpose.
tim pool
Apparently there are like white supremacist furries.
Okay.
That's like a big thing I guess.
adam crigler
Random, but okay.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have like, they have Nazi armbands, but it's a paw print instead of a swastika or
whatever.
I'm not kidding dude.
I don't know if it's a joke or whatever.
I'm just pointing it out.
adam crigler
So if I see the paw print, I'll know what it means now.
tim pool
I don't know what it means.
Yeah, I have no idea.
adam crigler
I've actually never seen a furry before.
tim pool
No, but somebody made a good point and they said it's that the left has successfully made it so that in many communities, like gaming, movies, even in the furry community, you can't be conservative because of cancel culture and the fear that they'll attack you.
So these people just shut up.
And then the, and then what you end up seeing is all of this Antifa, but it doesn't really explain it.
It doesn't explain how, like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Like, I don't, I don't know what this is, but there's a bunch of these like characters.
And I'm not saying these people are furries, but there actually are some hyper people.
I don't want to use their real names.
Like, I don't want to, I don't want to cause a brigade or anything, but there's like some people that are actually well-known verified furries who are like very vocal about supporting Antifa.
I'm like, what's that all about?
Somebody mentioned, like, a lot of the right-wingers have, like, anime avatars.
And I'm like, that's not really true either.
It's like an eagle and, like, an American flag.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Or, like, a, you know, a kek frog or something.
It's like, I don't, I do see anime people, but not really.
It's usually, like, these Tumblrina leftists use anime stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, but they're not dressing up as the characters, are they?
They're not, like, full-on outfits.
The conservative side.
tim pool
No, no, no.
No, I mean, like, all of these people... Oh, right, right.
I mean, well, they'll wear their, like, American flag hat and, like, you know, Trump shirt or whatever, or, like, Trump hat.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
That's not, like...
Embodying a different animal though.
That's that's yeah, isn't that what furries do they like get in the full outfit?
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a fursuit.
Yeah, apparently like really expensive I'm like a crazy lifestyle apparently they've like tried to have conventions But the people are just like nuts and we're like sabotaging plumbing or something I don't know somebody somebody posted a response like here's your understanding and I watch this video and it was really weird I think I look, I don't care what you do with your life and your free time.
You know, that's why I'm like, I'm not even it's not even really about furries at all.
It's about Antifa.
Yeah.
And what it is.
One of the responses I got from a lot of people was that their Antifa are mentally ill people.
You know, it's like we're talking about with the Joker the other day.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That this fringe ideology needs allies.
So it seeks out vulnerable, you know, unstable individuals to support it.
adam crigler
Just like I said earlier, I read that article.
Antifa is going to high schools and colleges looking for the people that are outcasts and that don't fit into society and they're snatching them up.
tim pool
And what you do is you tell them the reason you don't fit in is because of Trump.
unidentified
Yeah, because Trump is a racist society.
adam crigler
It's society's fault.
lydia smith
It's everyone else's fault.
adam crigler
It's everyone else's fault.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not your fault.
I'm here for you, alright?
It's not your fault.
lydia smith
It's very subjective.
tim pool
How do we actually deal with that, you know?
Like, what do you do?
Do you, like, drop them in the middle of the woods?
Make them learn how to survive or something?
Take them on a camping trip?
What did their parents do wrong?
adam crigler
They weren't parents.
Simple.
Done.
They weren't parents.
All I see is as they get older and older, they're looking at the kids like, oh, that's just kids being kids.
They'll grow over that.
They'll get out of that phase eventually.
And they don't try.
They don't engage.
They're just like, yeah, whatever, whatever.
And then it just runs rampant.
tim pool
I think it's the logical conclusion of what we've been seeing over the past hundred years.
It used to be, and I think you brought this up a few days ago, that you were a blacksmith, and then your kid would watch and learn and help you in the shop, and then eventually he became a blacksmith too.
adam crigler
Then he got really good at blacksmithing.
tim pool
And that was a family.
It was a family name, it was your family job.
Then we had apprenticeships, and then it was like not just your kid, it was also other people would come and pick trades.
And then it eventually became stuff all the kids in a factory.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Dust your eyes.
go off and do a different job and the kids are shoveling coal into a steam engine or something.
But then we started putting them in schools, institutionalized learning facilities with the
bells that, you know, I've heard it's supposed to simulate factories. I don't know if that's true,
where like the bell rings in the period. Oh, wow. Yeah.
But you slowly take the parents away from the kids.
adam crigler
Eventually the kids are just... Mindless drones.
tim pool
They don't know what they are.
adam crigler
Right.
Nowadays, companies don't want college kids anymore, right?
tim pool
A lot of them don't.
adam crigler
Yeah, because they're not experienced.
They're clueless.
Alright, I have my degree.
Okay, do this job.
What do you need me to do?
This job.
Can you do it or not?
No, you have to tell me what to do.
Can't you hold my hand and show me?
What about my homework?
That's not what work is.
tim pool
My professor told me what to do.
adam crigler
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
My professor would tell me what I had to do.
And it's like, okay, bro, I, I don't know how to do that job.
That's why I hired you.
I've literally experienced this where I'm like, um, you know, I hired, uh, someone to specifically to manage accounting when I was working for a fusion.
And they're like asking me like, what do I do?
I'm like, I don't know.
adam crigler
That's why I have a hard time with anyone building stuff for me, because I have a really high standard for the way I build stuff, whatever it is.
If it's a bedroom, even running the electric, unless it's a professional person doing it, I want to do it myself, because I know how to do it.
And I'd rather it done right, because if it isn't done right, I'm just going to have to do it myself.
tim pool
These kids aren't good at anything.
They've got no skills.
They are talentless blobs of nothing, and now they're angry that they don't get all of these things they can't make themselves or they can't earn.
adam crigler
Well, it's no wonder that they're angry, because they were told their whole lives they can do anything they want.
Anything you dream of, you can do.
But you don't have to work for it.
I'm just going to keep telling you, you can do anything.
It's like, yeah, you could do anything, but you have to pick one thing and then go for that for a long time, and then eventually you get into it.
tim pool
The problem is the previous generation demanded we go to college.
Like, like Moron Lemmings.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Marching off the cliff.
adam crigler
It's a requirement now.
tim pool
Yeah, I remember when I was little, my man, I'll tell you, and the Time 100, I actually had family be like, so are you going to go to college now?
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Is that a joke?
adam crigler
Are you serious?
lydia smith
Why would you do that?
adam crigler
Have you not seen me in the Time Magazine?
tim pool
I was like, I've been invited to speak at a PhD course on journalism.
adam crigler
You've been to the White House, man.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's pretty huge.
tim pool
Well, that was like, I'm 34 when that happened.
No, 33.
adam crigler
Yeah, whatever.
tim pool
But I'm talking about like, I'm 26.
I have a career, I'm being featured, and I have these professors saying, like, this technique is incredible, and they're asking me to come and give guest lectures.
adam crigler
At colleges.
tim pool
At colleges.
And I still had family being like, you really need to go to college now.
And I'm like, are you insane?
Like, why go to college?
But you think about that pressure even I was getting from my family.
And you think about all these kids who don't know better.
And I can't, you know, I don't completely blame them.
If you were told your whole life, you can have everything you want so long as you play by these rules.
Here's what you have to do.
No cheating allowed.
Go to school.
Go to high school.
Get a loan.
Go to college.
And they graduate and they're told, actually you're an indentured servant for the rest of your life.
I'm not surprised they're freaking out.
This is one of the reasons why I'm very much in favor of college debt forgiveness.
But I don't believe we should just do with like what Warren said or whatever and just write a blank check.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Here's 50 grand, boom, just hand it out.
No, I think we should just terminate the interest rates.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, I like that too.
tim pool
So you've got to pay down everything you've spent.
adam crigler
Yeah, you got to pay for, because the professor's still got to get paid, the college still has to run.
tim pool
No, no, these are people out of school.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, but now they owe money.
adam crigler
Afterwards, after the fact.
tim pool
So they got a loan from a company.
The company put a percentage, you know, interest rate on it.
adam crigler
Right, because it's all just the banks then making that interest anyway.
tim pool
We have a predatory system.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That is, it is creating an entire generation of whiny communists.
So I'm not, I'm not gonna, as much as I can complain about the individual... Oh man, I laugh, but you're right.
Yeah.
Listen, man.
They get out of school, and they were told- Look, you're 18.
You'd think this 18-year-old, you know, chick or whatever who's like, I'm in the occupied, you know, free zone or whatever.
You think she has any idea what's gonna happen with the next- Zero.
unidentified
68 years of her life.
adam crigler
Zero clue.
tim pool
Exactly.
You take a kid who's in high school, who's naive, ignorant, not saying stupid, just inexperienced, and you say, trust us, we're your adults, you have to do these things.
It's no surprise many of these people are trying to throw all of that out the window, because the system was broken and they were lied to.
The solution isn't communism, though.
The solution is walk out into the middle of the field and start growing your own corn and building your own hut.
Pave your own path, find your own way.
But I can't say I'm surprised they want to burn it all down.
adam crigler
Just like you said in the, what was it, Occupy, when they gave him a farm?
tim pool
Yeah, and they didn't want to do it.
adam crigler
Look, you guys want to try it?
Here's a farm.
There you go.
We gave you a farm.
And what happened?
tim pool
Oh, they lasted like two weeks.
But I don't like doing work.
adam crigler
Wait a minute, I have to work?
I have to work to live?
lydia smith
Are you kidding?
adam crigler
Life is not easy.
tim pool
But think about it.
I know a lot of people, and I've talked to people about this, and they've told me, like, I've had friends, and this was back, you know, 10 or so years ago, like, super depressed, saying, I did everything right.
I did everything they said was the right thing to do, and by the time I graduated and I have a degree, there's no jobs, I've got $40,000 in debt, I can't pay it off, so it's deferring, and now the interest is going up, and it's gonna be $60,000 by the time I actually find a job.
This is ridiculous.
And I'm like, What you hear from a lot of people is, well, you took the loan, that's your fault, you're an adult.
And I'm like, I agree with that within reason.
I would agree with that on the individual level.
If you're an individual, you can't blame anyone but yourself.
But on a mass scale, we have an entire system churning out whiny communists.
You gotta realize that's gonna rip our country apart at the seams.
We're seeing it.
adam crigler
It's happening in front of our eyes right now.
tim pool
That's why I think so.
You also have, man, college indoctrination.
It's not as bad as a lot of people would say it is.
There are a lot of professors who are nuts.
But there's been a couple of surveys that found that in certain humanities political fields, it's definitely bad.
Really, really bad.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But there's a lot of stuff that's not, you know, people kind of exaggerate things to a certain degree.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I mean, go ahead.
tim pool
No, you get hot press on the really extreme cases, but it is, to a certain degree, indoctrinating people and making them think insane things.
So you put them in this machine that tells them, communism actually isn't all that bad.
Then they graduate.
Now think about what happens.
You spend 22 years, or so, not 22 years, but you know, You start school at what, 5?
So 17 years in an institutionalized learning facility.
You graduate at 22.
Every step of the way, there's been an authority figure providing everything for you.
You go to school, there's the cafeteria, the food's right there.
You walk right up, you take it, it's all part of your meal plan.
Then you graduate, and you're sitting there thinking, okay, where's my food?
Where's the lunch lady to give me my food?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Government!
Government cheese, please!
lydia smith
Hey, you know what I just realized?
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
So you know the reason that school is so expensive is because it's subsidized, right?
tim pool
Is it?
lydia smith
Because the government is paying for those schools.
That's why they jack up the prices like that.
And then they offer to forgive your loans.
And then people graduate and they're like, oh, where's the government to help me pay my bills?
And then you have to wonder what they were thinking by subsidizing this education that made them think that government was a good thing.
adam crigler
Well, hold on, before we move, I want to just say, you said something about basically them going, yeah, yeah, it's a communist system, like, hmm, all right, I'm kind of interested in that.
But now we're finding out, we've talked about this a couple times, that China is working with professors, paying them under the radar.
tim pool
Did you hear that huge story today?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Like millions of dollars to a Harvard professor just got busted.
adam crigler
Let me see if I can find it.
They're a communist party.
They want us to be fractured.
They want what's happening right now in our country.
That's what they want.
They want us fractured.
They want our youth going against us to split us up.
This is exactly what China wants right now.
tim pool
Check this out.
lydia smith
That's a good point.
tim pool
Two hours ago, top Harvard professor indicted in China case.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
They say, Dr. Charles Lieber, 61, will be arraigned in federal court in Boston on two counts of making false statements to investigators regarding his involvement in China's Thousand Towns plan.
lydia smith
So, when was that case, do you know?
I thought it was a while ago.
tim pool
Oh, this guy.
He was arrested on January 28th.
So this is the same guy, but the story is... They just made it happen.
Oh, so he was officially indicted now.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right, right.
tim pool
So it's a part of that ongoing story.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, they've been doing this.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They got their little tendrils in everything.
adam crigler
Yes, they do.
tim pool
Well, you know what, man?
adam crigler
How is this not a main thing?
Like, I was still shocked.
I'm still shocked that throughout the whole coronavirus thing nobody, no mainstream media talked about how we found Chinese nationalists bringing in coronavirus for years.
I am still kind of like, when I think about it, I'm like, wow, that's really kind of crazy.
tim pool
How is that not a bigger story?
adam crigler
How is that not a big story?
Exactly.
It's almost like there's, you know, some group that doesn't want anyone to know about this China involvement.
tim pool
It's because Jeff Zucker at CNN is a reality TV guy, and he's sitting there and going like, what do I care about this story?
Run Trump.
Run, run, run Trump.
Trump, uh, Trump.
What'd he get caught doing?
He got caught today eating a cream puff from a local bakery.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Can we make that racist somehow?
And then one guy goes like, well, cream puffs are white on the inside.
Ooh, we can make it like a secret racist thing.
And then also there's a story and it's like Trump dog whistled to neo-Nazis, eats cream puff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I kid you not.
It's like, you're reading this and you're like, Puffgate.
unidentified
Puffgate.
tim pool
Secretly inside the beige treat is white cream.
That proves it!
lydia smith
Orange on the outside, white on the inside.
tim pool
Do you see the story where they were like, Trump's salt shaker was bigger?
unidentified
No.
What is wrong with these people?
Wait, what?
tim pool
That was the story?
There was a picture and there was a salt and pepper shaker and they were different.
One was rectangular and one was circular.
The one by Trump was bigger than the one not by Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah, he loves himself.
He just shows off, whatever.
It's not even about that, who cares?
I don't even care anymore, come on.
lydia smith
He's also the president!
You get like a certain set, right?
I don't know.
adam crigler
Nah, that wouldn't surprise me if there was a little T on it.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
That would surprise me.
You know what was likely?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
The person came in and put some salt shakers on the table and left.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And Trump was eating and they were like, what can we do, what can we do?
unidentified
Ooh, ooh, ooh, look!
tim pool
Look at that picture!
That salt shaker looks bigger.
adam crigler
It's bigger!
unidentified
It's bigger!
tim pool
I remember the infamous two scoops of ice cream story.
You remember that?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Trump gets two scoops of ice cream and everyone else gets one.
I'm not joking.
CNN did that story.
adam crigler
Now to be fair... CNN did a story on him getting two scoops.
Yes.
So everyone else is one.
tim pool
Yes they did.
Now, hold on.
To be fair, it was supposed to be like a silly segment, but it got honestly picked up then by other... Independent is talking about it here.
lydia smith
BuzzFeed is talking about it.
adam crigler
Is this just happened or something?
No, it was a while ago.
lydia smith
It was in 2017.
adam crigler
Before my awakening.
tim pool
Nightmare world that we live in.
lydia smith
And this is what they were covering instead of China sneaking in literal living viruses.
They did not think that was a big deal.
adam crigler
In unmarked vials.
Yeah, hidden and they caught the guy and he lied. He said no, I don't have anything and they're like, whoa
We just found these vials on you like oh, well those I'm bringing to a professor at one of your universities
tim pool
Think about think about the news reports that could have been
Breaking news America. Yeah, Chinese national has been detained in relation to smuggling of
Viruses into this country without proper permits. Yeah Local security experts are concerned.
Instead, we got breaking news, America.
The president received two scoops of ice cream.
unidentified
And they were both white.
tim pool
It was both vanilla.
And then they start talking about how, like, the Democrats got chocolate vanilla swirl, which shows how they're very interested in ending racism.
And then you have two hours of pundits being like, listen, you don't understand the dog whistle that is Trump getting vanilla swirl.
lydia smith
Let me explain to you this thing only I can hear.
tim pool
And then another person's like, no, you're wrong.
The vanilla swirl isn't a dog whistle.
It's overt.
He's saying straight up the argument is actually not about whether it is or isn't racist.
It's that it is.
lydia smith
Of course.
tim pool
But the connotations are different.
No, Nancy Pelosi, what, she got chocolate vanilla swirl.
I think that shows real leadership in this country.
And it's like, it's like Trump didn't even choose the ice cream.
It was just like some guy had a tray and then they were handing them out.
And he's like, thank you.
And then they were like, he accepted it.
Dude, there's literally nothing he can do.
So you, you have CNN.
adam crigler
Nothing.
tim pool
I'm imagining Jeff Zucker.
He's sitting in a room and he's looking at two folders and he's like, it says like China smuggling in viruses with, you know, and, and hiring researchers to steal research.
Orange man, bad folder.
lydia smith
It's the meme with the guy and the button.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the guy and the button.
He's sweating like... No, that's not fair.
adam crigler
No, it's not.
lydia smith
No sweat, huh?
tim pool
No, it's not fair.
No sweat.
lydia smith
No sweat at all.
adam crigler
It's a smile.
tim pool
A smile and a wink as he presses orange man bad.
Right.
Here's a better analogy.
They hand him two folders, and he looks at the orange man bad, and he goes... He puts a cigar out, and he looks at the other one, and he goes... And he gets all angry when he sees it, and he throws the China report.
The paper's just flying everywhere.
Don't you ever bring that in my office again.
We don't want any of that garbage.
adam crigler
This isn't clickbait enough.
Come on.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
What do we look like, a news organization?
lydia smith
No, not really.
adam crigler
That ended in the 90s.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, it doesn't exist anymore.
adam crigler
News used to be real.
unidentified
What were we talking about?
I don't know where we are now. It's a bunny trail something.
adam crigler
Yeah, I heard the Harvard guy. We were talking about schools
unidentified
We're talking about taking over students. How did we get into that though?
Cuz you said China got into Harvard and then we start talking about how it was well not Harvard
Just schools in general. Yeah Maybe we'll go to war with China and this will all just
disappear You know by you keep saying it and I keep starting to
adam crigler
believe it, dude Thucydides trap, man.
tim pool
Could you imagine if they reinstituted the draft?
And then that 18-year-old woman in the free zone would be drafted?
lydia smith
Equality.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It is kind of weird that they were talking about the draft again a month ago.
tim pool
Like they keep doing it like why what what you know, you know people don't realize is that you know when it came to
vietnam The draft was complete bs. Yeah, and I can understand why
they were like, okay, we can't do that again But if we're talking about a real existential threat, there's
adam crigler
gonna be a draft man like against china with their 1.4 4 billion people?
How many people are in China?
1.3 billion people.
How many have we got?
lydia smith
300 million?
adam crigler
330 million.
tim pool
Yeah, they'll be conscription in two seconds, man.
Could you imagine?
This is what's crazy about these, like, wacko lefties.
Would they really want them?
You don't want these revolutionary wackos to have guns.
lydia smith
No, they're not going to take orders well.
They're not smart.
adam crigler
Well, we already, we saw that guy.
We talked about it yesterday that he was, was he on active duty?
I don't know if he was, he was on active duty.
So there was someone on active duty, went on a rampage, killed some cops.
tim pool
Killed some cops.
Well, he killed one cop for sure.
adam crigler
Okay.
We don't know if he killed the other two in Oakland or somewhere.
tim pool
No, it was one other cop in Oakland.
Someone shot two of them.
I think it may have been him because he had a van with weapons in it.
But yeah, they're not going to want these people.
So then what do we do?
It's like we're falling apart from the inside, man.
lydia smith
Our military is half the size of China's, just for the record.
tim pool
Yeah, but we got better tech.
adam crigler
We got UFO tech, yo.
lydia smith
Not made in China.
adam crigler
What you know about that?
tim pool
You know what, man?
adam crigler
UFO tech.
tim pool
I'm willing to bet, a lot of people don't want to believe it, but I'm willing to bet that we've got military tech you could not even imagine.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
lydia smith
I'm sure.
adam crigler
Totally.
tim pool
Because there was a really funny story I was reading when I was reading about these UFOs.
And it was talking about how they had these weird sightings for UFOs in certain areas.
And they passively mentioned it was only like, you know, 50 miles away from a naval
experimental technology center.
It's like, what?
adam crigler
Like, oh, well, then two plus two equals that.
tim pool
It's like you ever play Sudoku?
It's like I can see I can see what's happening here, man.
You got crazy flying ship.
lydia smith
Military military.
tim pool
Military research center.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
It is very complicated.
tim pool
Was that hard for people?
lydia smith
No, I guess not.
It's complicated.
unidentified
To figure out?
tim pool
No, it's not that big a deal.
But people still want to claim.
adam crigler
They probably made the Space Force just to, like, allocate more budget to the tech that they need to work on.
tim pool
If, if, look, when we hear about the weapons they make, like, I think six, seven years ago, they created a new streamlined gravity bomb, a megaton nuke, that was very small, because, like, the original was massive.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so they figured out how to do it better and, you know, more compact.
And it's just, you just drop it out of a plane.
But we got ICBMs, man, we got crazy weapons.
And that stuff's all, what, from the 70s?
How old is that stuff?
lydia smith
That's pretty old, yeah.
tim pool
If you think they're not working on better ways to kill, and if you think that the ones they're working on now, they're telling you all about, I don't buy it, man.
I think there are certain things for immediate visible use, and they're keeping their aces up their sleeve.
I think the U.S.
has got some crazy stuff, you know, hidden.
adam crigler
For sure.
tim pool
A lot of cyber attacks.
adam crigler
How much money does the U.S.
military spend every year?
Can you look that up?
lydia smith
Yeah, hold on, I got it kind of right in front of me.
tim pool
A very big number.
adam crigler
A lot.
It's gotta be a lot.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
A crazy amount.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, there's a good argument that bureaucracy is miserable and fails all the time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I'm not convinced, man.
adam crigler
I just saw the look on her face.
lydia smith
I just saw the number for the U.S.
military spending.
adam crigler
Per year?
lydia smith
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
In 2018, they signed the Department of Defense Appropriations Bill.
It was $617 billion for the base budget and another $69 billion for war funding.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
I'd say we are prepared.
tim pool
That is lots of dollars.
lydia smith
Many dollars.
adam crigler
That's a lot of money.
tim pool
Holy cow.
And then you think about, they build all these tanks, they buy all these weapons, and then it gets reappropriated by local police departments and stuff.
Then people get mad about it.
But, man, I don't think we could be invaded, to be honest.
When you got like a small town of like 300 people and they've literally got armored personnel carriers with like machine guns mounted on them.
I'm not kidding.
It's like an actual video I was watching about it.
adam crigler
That's so weird.
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's like, I think they're good, but that's hand-me-down stuff.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
What is the U.S.
hiding up its sleeve?
lydia smith
A lot of money, apparently.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
They didn't just come out and say to the world, like, we're building a nuclear bomb.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Manhattan Project was a secret.
They can do the same thing today.
It's compartmentalized.
You wouldn't know what you were working on.
adam crigler
Well, American-made products usually last.
Chinese-made stuff tends to break more often.
I mean, it is the stuff they're giving us.
So are they making good quality stuff for themselves?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
No, you don't think so?
tim pool
No, man.
It's low quality because the people are basically slaves.
You know, they walk off buildings and mass suicide.
It's horrifying.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Yeah, we shouldn't be supporting it.
It's funny because I've heard a lot of arguments about like sweatshop labor.
Okay.
And the argument from the pro sweatshop people is there are no jobs where they live and this gets them substantially more money than they could have made otherwise.
adam crigler
Even if it's dirt.
tim pool
Even if it's a quarter per hour.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's still, you know, they normally make like a penny per hour.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So to them it's like, this is amazing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, I still don't think it's a good idea.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
I mean, I get the argument.
It creates jobs and industry and all that stuff, but why don't you just pay them better and actually benefit the area?
But in the end, just hire Americans.
The outsourcing thing was a big disaster for us.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
I don't know what their plan was.
I guess the plan was like, make America the educated elite class capital city.
adam crigler
Well, we don't need like 100 pairs of shirts, you know, or jeans, you know.
We, you know, it's like I have a pair of jeans that I've been wearing for 10 years.
They're great.
They're still in good shape.
I just bought a new pair of pants.
Built in America.
Guaranteed for life.
So if anything happens, I can send it back to the company and they fix them for me and send it back to me.
So I just got a pair of shorts from them.
I'm stoked.
That's the kind of stuff I like.
We don't need, you know, it's funny.
I was a model for a long time.
Modeling clothes to sell clothes.
And after I left that industry, I'm, I'm kind of disgusted by it because it kind of, I helped it, you know, essentially fast fashion become more of a thing.
Like people go buy more stuff.
Look at this new outfit.
You need this new thing.
And it's like, and it just got worse and worse and worse quality over time.
It wasn't good quality stuff.
tim pool
This is one of the biggest problems I have with capitalism.
adam crigler
It's another thing.
tim pool
This is one of the biggest problems I have with capitalism is that humans are incentivized to produce and consume things that lead us to horrible ends.
I think I mentioned this on the show before.
There's a quote by a physicist or whatever that If humans ever meet aliens, they'll shake hands, not because they overcame the nuclear bomb, but because they overcame the Xbox.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Meaning that in a capitalist system, humans are driven to their baser instincts, and they keep buying new things, they get fat, they eat terrible food, they become sedentary, and they play video games, and they whack off all day.
True.
However, just because I have a problem with the system doesn't mean I think communism,
you know, would be the alternative.
And that's what a lot of these activists think.
They're like, we consume too much communism.
lydia smith
I'm like, no, no, no, too many thing.
tim pool
It's not even about that.
All of these big natural disasters, you know, like Chernobyl and stuff.
No, it's ineffective.
Competition works.
adam crigler
Yeah, competition gives... I mean, the space race.
We went to the moon because of competition.
You know, it does give us a reason to, you know, better ourselves.
So there needs to be some kind of a balance between, you know... The solution is cultural.
I saw the look on your face.
tim pool
The solution to this problem is cultural.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Elon Musk needs to launch a rocket to Mars and inspire everybody to be like, I want to be cool.
I want space stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Right now, everyone's like, I want 57 of different shirts with different logos.
This has got a bunny on it.
This one's got a giraffe on it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then it's just a bunch of waste product that doesn't do anything to make society better.
adam crigler
I mean, he just launched two people into space two weeks ago.
tim pool
Exactly.
Exactly.
adam crigler
It was amazing.
I cried a little bit watching it happen, man.
I teared up.
It was awesome.
We need an ambitious- A private company.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's the best part to me.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy, huh?
adam crigler
It's a first.
tim pool
And that was an investment project, right?
Like they were doing a test.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
So that was a test run, right?
adam crigler
Well, no, no, no.
They've tested it.
That was their maiden voyage, basically.
tim pool
Were they paid to do it?
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
That's my question.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the U.S.
government paid them to send a payload.
adam crigler
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
They were NASA astronauts sent up.
Wow.
lydia smith
It cost so much less to do it that way, though.
unidentified
Boom.
adam crigler
Incredible.
lydia smith
Nailed it.
adam crigler
Significantly less.
tim pool
So what can we do for young kids growing up to have them strive to focus not on stupid consumerism, but focus on projects that make awesome new things.
So that's one of the big challenges we have right now.
It's not capitalism.
Capitalism creates rapid competition and rapid, expansive growth, which can be good.
It's only bad if we don't get off this planet.
If we can get off Earth and we find better means of propulsion, then we're talking about capitalism being a godsend.
One of the big complaints is like, we consume too much.
What did Greta Thunberg say?
unidentified
Your fairy tales of endless economic growth!
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, well, if we start mining asteroids and colonizing other planets, it will be endless as far as we can tell.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So let's get on that, huh?
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't think she understands that we can't go back.
We can't go back to, you know, everyone owning a farm and it being like 1500s, you know?
It's like, that's not the way it is anymore.
We are a technological society.
We are only advancing.
We have to figure out how to make it work with our society.
tim pool
Dude, these people, they want to destroy the system.
They want you living in a cave.
Like that woman, that 18-year-old, free Seattle, you know, the woman who's part of the free Capitol Hill whatever, they seize this seven block radius, wants to destroy civilization.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
adam crigler
Okay, it's like you have no idea how comfortable you have been for your 18 years on this planet.
Little they.
tim pool
Little they?
Get eaten by a wild boar in like 20 minutes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Could you imagine these people?
adam crigler
Or stub your toe.
tim pool
And then you're dead.
adam crigler
And get infected.
It's like, wow, medicines.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like I stubbed my toe.
Oop, it's bleeding.
I'm going to die, I guess.
lydia smith
That's it.
tim pool
I guess I'll die.
adam crigler
That is.
tim pool
Yeah.
And antibiotic resistance.
There's a lot of things that are threatening our wonderful way of life.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And we've got to keep striving to improve.
I'll also point out, too, with that statement she made about endless economic growth, it's like you can have economic growth in a virtual reality.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
Virtual world.
tim pool
Yeah, so there's a lot of new jobs that emerge in weird ways, like World of Warcraft gold farming.
unidentified
You did that, right?
adam crigler
No, no.
You manipulated the market.
tim pool
Yeah, that's different.
That's just playing the game.
But there were people whose job in China was literally to go around just grinding in a video game to generate currency so that players could buy it from them.
adam crigler
Well, back when I was playing Diablo 2, that was a thing, too.
People would set up websites where you can go buy an item, whatever item you want, and they would meet up with you in a game and trade it to you.
It was expensive stuff, too.
tim pool
I'm not a fan of that.
I mean, it's fun.
I don't care that it exists.
Gaming is fun.
I'm just saying, think about how many people are on this planet working.
In the United States, ignore the pandemic stuff.
We had record low unemployment, but what are the humans doing?
I would prefer it if all of the humans were building spaceships.
However, I know that if all humans stopped their work and then started working on spaceships,
the entire system would collapse because you need more than spaceships to survive.
adam crigler
Yeah, we're not automated yet.
tim pool
Yet.
The issue is, in order to make, you know, the polymers for the ship, you need this industry, this industry, that industry.
And all of this different work together creates all of these different unique things.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
The problem with communists is that they're like, okay, stop production on the food and start building a nuclear power plant.
And they're like, okay, and then they all starve.
That's why capitalism is better.
It's a decentralized system that allocates resources where they're needed, when they're needed.
And if it can't support itself, it goes extinct.
The big challenge, though, is overcoming our baser instincts, which, to an extent, I'm fine with.
You wanna have a sugary can of soda, like I got right here?
You wanna have a chocolate cake or whatever?
Go for it.
But how do we convince more of our economic energy to go towards awesome stuff?
New energies, space travel, Can we do better?
So people aren't, you know, spending all of their time making 50 billion different t-shirts.
Like, could you imagine how stupid it would be if there's like a t-shirt that said, spin the UFO or something on it?
Or just like a picture of me saying, Haram.
I'm kidding, by the way.
Pick up your Timcast IRL shirt in the description below.
I'm actually I'm actually only half kidding.
I do think it's like we have a bunch of stuff we don't need.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And within reason, it's fine.
But I think we need a cultural shift towards cool projects like like the Space Race was where little kids were looking up at the sky going, wow.
And then dreaming of being an astronaut working at NASA.
adam crigler
Well movies kind of killed that.
We're so spoiled.
It's like, nah, cool, space, whatever.
It's like, yeah, but space.
Do you realize what that is out there?
tim pool
I don't think it's the movies.
You want kids to look up to somebody.
So if you have a little kid in front of you, and you go, wow, look at outer space.
They don't know better?
They're gonna be like, okay, outer space, good.
If you sit around the TV, your mom is crying, your dad's waving a little American flag, and you're a little kid watching this rocket takeoff, that kid is being told, this is what gets me approval.
This is what I must do so that people like me.
That's being replaced now by woke cancel culture nonsense, where they're like, I'll get followers if I call you a Nazi.
Yeah, so we need to get off of that stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
Move towards inspiring people to invent things and to travel and get into, you know, sciences.
And not even that.
Methodologies are important as technologies.
Better ways to do things.
Otherwise, we will just eat ourselves to death.
adam crigler
Yep, wither and die.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll be like yeast in a bottle, you know, eventually we consume everything and then nothing left.
adam crigler
It just dies off.
tim pool
I'm confident though.
I mean.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
I am.
adam crigler
It's nice to see that side view.
tim pool
So look, humans have been around for a while and it's in the past, like our growth and technological advancement has been exponential.
And the more people there are, the more things we produce, the more things we can produce, the more specialties will exist.
So I think certainly the U.S.
right now is in serious trouble.
But I think humans, for the most part, are going to do crazy things.
At the very least, I imagine, we will probably create some kind of self-replicating A.I.
that can colonize the universe.
Because that one ship can just be floating endlessly for 10,000 years, land on a planet, adequate resources, replicate, replicate, replicate.
And then whatever it is that we are created something that does something for some reason.
I think that might be a little naive because what's the point of rapid self-replication?
Maybe it just seeds life.
Maybe these little vessels will just stop and then drop some organic matter and then boom, a new planet seeded with life.
Maybe that's what our legacy will be.
Maybe that's what we were.
Wouldn't that be crazy?
Anyway, enough craziness!
Unless you wanted to add something.
adam crigler
I can talk about space all day long.
I wanted to bring up one article, but I'd rather bring up a bunch.
I couldn't bring it up because you've got to do your little trick.
tim pool
Oh, because of this.
adam crigler
Did I get it?
Did you get it?
tim pool
I think I got it.
adam crigler
I'm just gonna, here, click to this article.
So I'm just gonna read a little bit here.
This is an article about basically private space companies.
SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic.
But there's one thing in here that I really love.
And here we go.
It's basically them talking about when they go into space.
And there's an effect that happens.
It's called the overview effect.
I'll read it here.
It says, You see something fundamental changes in you, forever, once you've seen the planet in its natural habitat of space.
It's called the overview effect, a term coined by Frank White in 1987.
This is a permanent cognitive shift in awareness experienced by astronauts.
You don't see national boundaries from orbit.
You don't see others or races.
You see humanity as a whole.
You see us.
You can't unknow it.
living, breathing, fragile orb filled with a variety of totally interdependent living
creatures and you see each as unique, fragile, and precious.
You can't unknow it, you can't unfeel it.
There's something so special about that.
I love it.
I don't know what that feels like, to be floating above earth, looking down, but I can understand
it and I love space, everything.
If you follow me on Twitter, half of my tweets are just space related stuff.
There's something about this that I love.
I want more people to feel that way, you know, to get that kind of a feeling.
And we need it.
We need that overview effect.
It's kind of maybe empathy a little bit for others, you know, in the same kind of vibe.
tim pool
I think that effect could actually be dangerous.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
How so?
tim pool
Take someone who's got communist-type leanings, and they're not politically active.
unidentified
They just think, man, wouldn't it just make sense to put homeless people in houses?
tim pool
That's so dumb.
Now take them up to space and look down on the planet.
Now they have this feeling where they're like, this feeling they have could potentially activate them into a The point I'm trying to say is, there are a lot of people who might be really, really dumb, who get inspired by that feeling, seeing the Earth as one, and then involving themselves in matters they should not be involved in.
They lack the ability, the skill, the intelligence, the understanding, and then they see this and they're like, we are a one, we must protect the planet, it's so precious and connected, and then they become some kind of weird, lefty, SKW cultist.
adam crigler
Eagle terrorist or something?
tim pool
Yeah, something like that too.
adam crigler
Yeah, I see it.
I understand.
tim pool
It's crazy though, man.
It really is true.
People don't realize we are not freely independent creatures just walking around doing our thing.
It's fascinating to me.
I was reading about the discovery of air.
Has that ever occurred to you?
That people had to discover air?
adam crigler
That air exists around us?
tim pool
Because to a human, you can't see anything.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And you can only kind of feel wind.
And before they understood that there was actually something with mass here, like we're in an atmosphere.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
To them, it was like there was just nothing there.
And so I was reading about how it got discovered.
It was because they had these these like brass balls with holes in them and a tube that would come out.
And you put your thumb, you dip it in water, put your thumb over the end and pull it out and the water stays.
And then you put it over your head to shower, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So this one dude was like, let me put my finger, my thumb over the hole and then put it in and see if the water fills up.
Sure enough, it didn't.
And he was like, there must be something in there blocking the water.
And that's when they realized like air is this tangible thing.
adam crigler
That's cool.
tim pool
So it's like, the reason I bring that up is people often don't think about we are We are swimming in an atmosphere.
It's just gaseous.
It could be water, it could be any other medium, but we are in this big puddle, basically.
The air we breathe comes from trees, algae, and all those other things.
Without them, we die.
We don't get our food.
We really are connected to everything in this ecosystem.
adam crigler
Yep, we are.
tim pool
What's really cool about being smart is that we created suits that allow us to leave this and, you know, go into other places and stuff.
It'll be really cool if we could make a biodome in a ship.
Actually, I was just watching that movie Pandorum.
You ever see that one?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's basically, That's the one that was in there?
adam crigler
It looked pretty bad, actually.
tim pool
You didn't like it?
adam crigler
I walked through the room.
I'm judging on two seconds.
tim pool
It was a little silly, but I like the concept.
It's basically that they created an ark.
It's funny.
It's kind of what I was talking about, that theory of humans setting out an ark.
So, Earth is overpopulated, resources are strained.
They create a giant vessel with 60,000 people.
and it's supposed to go off and then colonize a new planet.
It's a 123 year journey. So they get put into hypersleep stasis.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And then I'm not going to spoil the movie. I mean, it's a really, really old movie,
but basically like they wake up and like everything's in chaos, but it's just a surprise.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
tim pool
I know, it's stupid.
But, uh, I like the idea that we could do this.
And I wonder, should we just do it?
Right now?
Like, Elon Musk wants to go to Mars.
Why don't we make, like, a biodome with, you know, a bunch of people?
And have them just, like, go off.
And do their thing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I've been to the biodome.
I bet it's a bunny.
tim pool
No, someone's shining a light.
adam crigler
Miami all over again.
tim pool
Yeah, I want to know who's out there shining a light in our yard.
adam crigler
Oh, it's like the neighbor or something?
tim pool
No, someone in the yard with a flashlight.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Weird.
adam crigler
Yeah, we should go check it out.
tim pool
No, I'm not worried about it.
Anyway, anyway.
lydia smith
Wait, yeah, totally derailed.
adam crigler
That's all right.
lydia smith
Biodome.
There we go.
adam crigler
Let's go to Super Chats.
lydia smith
Let's go to Super Chats!
adam crigler
What up, everybody?
tim pool
So if you haven't already, make sure you smash the like button.
Otherwise...
We will think you don't like us.
unidentified
No!
tim pool
I need affirmation.
Liking really does help apparently, because it really does.
So a lot of people don't know this.
There's like some rumors and myths about how liking and disliking works, and they think that it doesn't matter.
It really does.
adam crigler
Didn't they claim that it doesn't work?
It doesn't affect?
YouTube said it doesn't.
No, no, it doesn't make a difference.
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
I think they've said almost nothing about it.
But you can really see that when people dislike, how it negatively impacts analytics.
Like YouTube will just can your video.
So when you see people dislike videos in Brigade, they're really shutting it down.
And when you thumbs up, YouTube promotes it and shows it to more people.
It really does.
adam crigler
So like and share.
tim pool
But yeah, so let's read.
Grim Soul Banisher says, man, this is a busy week.
My anniversary, my daughter's birthday, and then my birthday.
Sending some love your way.
Spin the UFO.
adam crigler
Ooh, congrats on your birthday, all.
lydia smith
I will spin it.
tim pool
I'm going to spin it.
How was this made at 7.53?
Yeah, you drop it in early.
That's amazing.
lydia smith
That's crazy.
tim pool
Matthew Hannon says, some people want Tim for president, I want Tim for CEO of CNN with the ability to hire and fire anyone he wants.
Yes, that would be so cool.
I would not take the job.
unidentified
No?
adam crigler
No way.
lydia smith
But that would be so cool though.
tim pool
Now, maybe there will come a point where like in 10 years- You're the hero that they need though.
This becomes a big company and we've got a lot of employees, but- Good point.
I'm not gonna take anyone else's project and deal with their BS.
adam crigler
Yeah, just come get your news from us.
tim pool
Gregory says, hey guys, if you could meet anyone alive or dead, real or fiction, who would it be?
I am just glad Stephen Hawking checked out before he could see what happened to us.
adam crigler
First person that pops in my head is Tesla.
I'd like to meet Tesla and just hear some of his ideas that he never got off the ground.
tim pool
And demand where the death ray is.
adam crigler
Be like, look at what we got now.
lydia smith
So cool.
adam crigler
And what should I do?
unidentified
What about you?
Me?
tim pool
Who do you want to meet?
lydia smith
I have already stated that I would want to meet Marcus Aurelius.
unidentified
Oh.
lydia smith
Because he was a stoic.
Because I would like to figure out why we're having all these problems on Earth and why we can't get into space and why we're all caught up choking each other to death down here.
tim pool
You know, I don't think I have a really good answer because I've never really thought about it, but I really would be interested in having Thomas Jefferson sit down and, like, read some of these articles and get his thoughts on things.
Like, did you think this is where we would be?
You know, first of all, he'd be like, what is this floating device?
What is this?
What is this?
It's like, once you get over all the shock of technology, it's like, how do you feel about these people?
See what he has to say in terms of being one of the people who actually drafted this country, created it, where we are now.
I think it's kind of an obvious answer.
adam crigler
Let's read some more.
tim pool
Deplorable Pirate Captain Gunbeard says, $900,000 in counterfeit bills from China was seized in Minnesota back in January of this year.
adam crigler
Wow.
What a surprise.
tim pool
I don't know.
I'm going to look this up.
I've been to Amsterdam.
Oh, is that something in Amsterdam or whatever?
adam crigler
Amsterdam? I don't know.
tim pool
Like Christiania?
lydia smith
I'm going to look this up.
adam crigler
No, I don't think so. I've been to Amsterdam.
tim pool
Professor Roman Dev says, Remember when Reddit quarantined The Donald for threats
against police and we had to create thedonald.win? Uh-huh.
That was the reason.
If a single leftist sub gets banned, I'll eat my MAGA hat.
Jack Dorsey himself retweeted a video of a woman calling for a glorifying violence.
She said if they burned it all down, it wouldn't be enough.
So F your building, F your Target, F your McDonald's, whatever.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
So that's not glorifying violence, but Trump saying, like, hey, watch out, you know, don't loot, you might get shot.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, it is so palpable what they're doing.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
tim pool
Man.
Enlightened Worm says, new favorite shirt arrived during the show.
Tim, you look like such a sir on the Harumph I Say shirt.
Very classy.
unidentified
I know, right?
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Looking to leave San Diego soon.
Home sweet Louisiana.
Also, Nguyen is pronounced Goo-en.
I've been told it's pronounced like three different ways.
Like Nguyen, Nguyen, Nguyen.
So, what can I say?
Michael Boley says, did you get an email yet?
I'm totally locked from tweeting anyone after trying to tweet Adam.
unidentified
Whoa.
adam crigler
You got blocked for trying to tweet me?
tim pool
Oh, we gotta make that email.
I forgot to do it.
lydia smith
Oh, I meant to do that today.
unidentified
Yeah, we do.
adam crigler
That's good.
lydia smith
Okay, I'm gonna do that tomorrow.
adam crigler
Yeah, but whoa, that's really interesting.
What, you were tweeting at me and got blocked?
tim pool
I'm not surprised.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
We were just talking about Twitter playing silly games.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Evan S. says, Tim, please look at Bishop Vigano's letter to Trump.
Also watch Taylor Marshall's video breaking it down.
V-vet Jesus.
Flood says, dude, give this to Adam.
He's fire.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
That's right, Adam.
You are fire.
Yo.
Spicy hot.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Well, I can spin the UFO.
I don't know about that type of thing.
adam crigler
Turn in the frogs, gay.
unidentified
What was it?
Wait.
Mm, okay.
Turn in the frogs, Formo!
tim pool
Turn in the frickin' frogs, Gay.
What was that?
You know, Chechezum says, Adam, the old dude has a bacilar skull fracture.
Watch the vid I posted, and you can see that he hit his head and near the inside of
his skull crack open.
adam crigler
Wow, yeah.
So for the record, I wasn't saying that I believed one way or the other, all right?
I had a tweet just because the president tweeted about it, you know, so now there's this whole, it's going around Europe, you know, there's this, I don't know if you noticed the pictures that I posted where there was a German slogan and that basically said the left will go, will trick people with no end, essentially, like they can't stoop any lower to do tricks like this.
So I was like, Wow, people are really flipping out over this.
They're splitting us up even more.
tim pool
Is it real?
adam crigler
Is it fake?
So I don't know if it's real or fake.
A lot of people were talking.
What do you think?
Do you think it's real?
lydia smith
I just cracked the case.
I solved the mystery.
And it was thanks to that person asking about a bacillus skull fracture.
Because one of the symptoms of a bacillus skull fracture is fluid leaking from the nose or ear.
adam crigler
Bleeding from the ear.
lydia smith
That would be consistent with what happened to this guy.
The base of the skull and the ear bleeding.
tim pool
So what are you saying?
lydia smith
It is not blood and a mask and a mask on the back of the head.
People keep sending me this picture and I'm like, no.
tim pool
I think the dude was, uh, Geisty?
lydia smith
Yeah, sure, fine, whatever.
tim pool
We've seen video of him, you know, being a little grubber instigator.
adam crigler
Yeah.
People were saying he was trying to give the helmet back.
tim pool
No, that was his helmet.
adam crigler
That was his helmet, right.
You know, it's like, he shouldn't have been there.
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't think it was a false flag.
Like, he walked up and went, oh, hovens!
And then fell down.
I think he walked up and they were like, move, move!
And they gave him a light push and he's an old man and he fell down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And, you know, my issue with the whole situation is, you've got to have police who are conscious of the individual, not just treating everyone the exact same.
adam crigler
That's true, they do that.
tim pool
Yeah, if there's a journalist, and this is mind-blowing to me, you see an obvious news crew, I don't get why some jurisdictions, they don't do this.
Some do.
So when I was in D.C.
and they arrested everybody, they mass-arrested the whole group surrounding us.
I called the lieutenant, explained who I was.
He said, no one's getting out, you're all under arrest.
And I was like, just letting you know who I am.
He's like, alright.
Eventually he came out and pulled all the journalists out.
I'm like, clearly we're not here to break windows and cause trouble.
You let us out, we're gonna walk and do what you ask us to do.
So there's no point in arresting us and wasting your time and our time.
But some cops don't care.
And they'll literally just grab you and be like, we're arresting you.
It's like, why are you gonna waste your time?
Some journalists, man, I'll tell you what.
When we were surrounded in DC, they officially said we were arrested.
The first thing I did was I asked for the supervisor.
And they were like, yeah, they called it.
They said, hey, can we get a lieutenant over here?
The guy walks over.
I think his name was Lieutenant Washington.
He was a cool dude.
And I said, I just want to let you know I'm a journalist.
And he was like, well, I can't let you out.
Everyone's being arrested.
And I was like, I'm not here to argue.
Just want to let you know.
And he's like, all right.
Some other journalists, they complained about it.
And they were like, I need legal representation.
This is tyranny.
I have video of some of these journalists screaming at the top of their lungs with spit flying out of their mouths into the faces of these cops, like within inches of their face.
unidentified
I'm a journalist, you mother effer!
You can't do this to me!
Don't you know?
tim pool
And so the cops are like, shut up.
You're not getting out.
Nice try.
And I'm sitting in the back just like, minding my own business, you know, doing my thing.
And I got let out.
That was it.
Got out of the, it was covered in pepper spray though.
Let's see.
Keith Rogers says, I missed last night, I had to catch it this morning.
When you spoke of Bernie Sanders' left black eye, I recalled John Kerry, General Mattis, and others with the same black left eye with stitches.
All had it and switched position.
Very strange.
Samuel Williams says, Truck driver, Florida, 600 miles a day, unofficial poll, thousands of Trump sticker signs, one single Biden, either little support or no enthusiasm.
Yeah, maybe just anti-Trump though.
Long Dong John says, how would a non-police citizen militia handle a 9-11 situation?
Run around waving their arms in the air?
adam crigler
I don't know, man.
tim pool
Just panicked?
adam crigler
This no police thing doesn't make sense to me.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Nothing makes sense in the end.
tim pool
Max Ball says, can we talk about a true hero during these times?
That dude that saved the RX-7 FD from being flooded.
What was that about?
Did you see that?
adam crigler
No.
unidentified
No?
tim pool
From being flooded where?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Jay Renegade, thanks for becoming a member.
King Canuck says, send a super early, never be timely, but send a super late, never get read.
What was the event that was allowed to reopen after calling themselves a protest?
You guys are the best.
Spin that UFO.
adam crigler
Ace Speedway.
tim pool
And now they got shut down, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, that so and it's actually an interesting story.
I'll speed this in a second, spin in a second.
So Ace Speedway, we did this story yesterday.
So today, the governor was calling the sheriff to go shut Ace Speedway down.
And the sheriff was like, No, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna do that.
Sorry.
So the governor was like, Well, Harumph!
It was a true harumph moment and now the governor came down and shut it down for an imminent threat to society.
tim pool
But the protests are okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, they're fine.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
All right, so spin it.
lydia smith
UFO time.
tim pool
Mike says, a channel USA Love is stealing your video on YouTube.
Yeah, well, you know, a ton of them do that.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Whatever.
adam crigler
I did see that.
It's so bad.
tim pool
What is it?
adam crigler
It's just someone just cuts out your box and wears a face mask and just is doing What the heck?
tim pool
Oh really, but it's me talking?
adam crigler
But it's your voice.
lydia smith
Oh, so you can't see their mouth not moving?
adam crigler
Yeah, there's like seven views.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's whatever.
People know who you are.
tim pool
TL says, imagine the white privilege of being able to take over several Seattle blocks with no repercussions.
Any other gang would have APCs knocking those barriers down.
This is a 2020 Waco waiting to happen.
Yikes, man.
adam crigler
Maybe, yeah.
tim pool
Jeremiah says, anyone want to sub in for doing timestamps tomorrow?
If you do, reply in my timestamp comment tonight.
I'll give the template.
Tomorrow is the only night this week.
I can't do my normal thing.
adam crigler
Well, thank you for doing that, though.
I do see you popping those out there.
It's cool.
tim pool
One says, Pennsylvania Senate just passed a bill to end the lockdown 31-19 and now to the PA house.
unidentified
Woo woo!
Awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, New Jersey.
New Jersey lifted it, right?
unidentified
Today.
lydia smith
Yeah, we lifted it today.
tim pool
But that was to stay home.
Is that the businesses too?
lydia smith
I don't know.
I need to check it out.
tim pool
I want to go out and get a burrito.
adam crigler
First thing, I heard it and I went right to the bowling alley.
lydia smith
We were like, food!
adam crigler
It was still closed.
tim pool
I think it's just businesses.
adam crigler
I was bummed.
tim pool
I think we gotta go.
adam crigler
I would have been by myself.
tim pool
We gotta go to a nice diner and sit down.
Go to a movie.
I want a man to walk up with a nice suit on and a cloth on his arm and to take a fancy bottle of water over his arm and pour it into my glass and I'll just be like, it has been months.
adam crigler
So fancy.
tim pool
Please, sir.
Fancy water, please.
lydia smith
That's what he wants.
tim pool
Nunya Biz says, Some websites and hashtags for you to cover.
8Can'tWait, 8Tabolition, the latter of which promoting such anti-police measures
as making sex work legal and granting government housing.
Many users are Antifa adjacent.
unidentified
Antifa adjacent?
tim pool
Let's see.
DaKillaClown says, when you decide to leave NJ, consider central Wisconsin.
Sure, it's cold, but there's a lot of room.
Also, what's your take on the I'll beat Joe Biden gaffe?
unidentified
Oh, he said B, he didn't say B. Yeah, yeah, he said B.
tim pool
Cause he was talking about his record.
They were like, some people said, you're not going to do a good job.
And he goes, you know, you've done these things in the past.
And he goes, look, I got a 40 year record and you can assure that, you know, when I take it in, I'm going to be Joe Biden.
And everyone said, beat.
When I first covered the story, I said, beat.
I didn't even know there was a controversy over him saying beat.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
Yeah.
tim pool
I didn't hear it.
I was like, that makes sense.
adam crigler
It did make sense.
Funny enough, one of the few times he actually made sense, everybody else freaked out.
I was like, wait, wait!
He actually made sense!
unidentified
Come on!
Give him a break.
adam crigler
That's pretty funny.
tim pool
Here's an interesting one.
St.
Grizzly says, Tim, don't you think all the leftist voters leaving the cities like San Francisco and NYC are going to change the electoral college votes purple in the flyover states?
Trump could be the last Republican president.
That's a very, very good point.
Maybe it's all part of the secret plan.
Drive the blue people into the red areas so that Trump loses the electoral college.
adam crigler
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of people are trying to turn in red.
tim pool
No, no, this year they're doing absentee ballots.
Mail-in voting means they're going to be voting in that same blue district.
Yeah, it's too close to the election.
I don't think you can change your location that soon.
You need like 17 months or something.
adam crigler
I think I actually have to go back to Arizona to vote.
I'm registered to vote there.
tim pool
Because you can't change that.
adam crigler
No, I can't.
I'll have to fly out there.
tim pool
You can't right now.
You can after, I think.
Or if you did, it wouldn't take effect until later or whatever.
So it may change things in the future, but I think, look man, what just happened with all these liberals rushing out to buy guns?
With a milquetoast fence-sitter jumping off the fence to go and grab a Sig M400?
I'm sitting on that fence, and Crowder's like, hey buddy, pulls out his cigar, come and get it, and I'm like...
Jumped right off and ran up to him.
Thank you, sir.
I haven't gotten it yet.
adam crigler
We'll do it We'll you know, we'll do a video whatever done boxing when it comes I'm gonna get a I want to do a photo op of him sitting on the fence be front fence Korean.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah fence Korean so so listen if if Look, I think moderates got pushed hard, right?
Like I'm to a specifically being like we are all about this liberals are now like I should reconsider my position Yeah.
So even if, even if these people are moving, they're now going to be surrounded by people who are going to influence them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
These are people who had a bunch of friends in the city and they're in their bubble.
Now they're going to be surrounded by a bunch of what religious conservative types or moderate conservative types.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Their opinions will change.
They're going to be sitting down at a restaurant and someone's going to be like, well, you know, Trump's a racist.
And someone's going to be like, well, what do you mean?
Like, but how?
And they'll go, oh, I don't know.
And that's it.
adam crigler
I was just told that.
tim pool
When they're not surrounded by their, you know... Remember in Rick and Morty when all the Jerrys come out of that machine and they're all shaking each other's hands?
adam crigler
No, I don't remember that one.
tim pool
You know that one, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, they're all like shaking, giving each other high fives.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, a bunch of Jerrys are being replicated for whatever reason and they all walk out like, shaking each other's hands and like just like proud of each other, not actually doing anything.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
When you're in the city, that's it.
So you walk up to your friends and go, hey guys, Trump, am I right?
And they all laugh and high five you, yeah!
adam crigler
At the same time, though, the internet still exists.
A lot of these people don't go out and socialize.
This, the internet, it's the same thing.
tim pool
I hear you, but listen, man.
Some of these people who have fled San Fran and New York, they're going to find themselves sitting in a diner, and there's going to be a server, and the server's going to be wearing a MAGA hat.
And what are they going to do?
The server's going to be wearing a MAGA shirt.
Are they going to go, oh no!
unidentified
This is, this is like Nazi Germany all over again!
tim pool
Waiters with shirts!
adam crigler
That looks awfully familiar, like a video I watched today.
tim pool
I don't know if you guys saw that video of the woman being like, I got a letter!
unidentified
A custom, custom Trump hat!
adam crigler
It's army fatigue!
tim pool
A custom Trump hat.
She said it sounds, she's like, I don't know if you know this, but Hitler made the Jews wear stars.
And this feels like the opposite of that.
Like the opposite of that?
lydia smith
Sounds great.
tim pool
People choose to wear hats?
That happens every day, lady.
This has got to be a fake video, like a joke, right?
adam crigler
I don't know.
No, I've seen other videos now showing up.
Because Cassandra was basically doing this.
Cassandra Fairbanks.
I don't know if you guys follow her, but she posted another one.
She's like, yeah, this seems to be legit.
And it was this girl talking about like, look, I did this video.
I don't have that many followers, but this one's doing really well.
So I want to just make sure everyone knows, like, I'm totally serious.
Like, I really want to know this stuff.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, stop.
unidentified
You should have just left it at the one video.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Isaac and Barekka says, Aesop's Fable, The Frogs Who Desired a King.
When you desire to change your condition, make sure that you can really improve it.
I will.
Here we go.
Gold gives us the breakdown.
Gen X is 65 to 79.
Millennials are 80 to 99.
Gen Z is 2000 to 15.
And Alpha is 2015 to 2030.
to 99, Gen Z is 2000 to 15, and Alpha is 2015 to 2030.
Why are you shaking your head?
lydia smith
Because I think that it's 20 years.
It's supposed to be every 20 years, which kind of goes along with what you're saying about the theory that they developed.
That's why.
I thought it was 20, not 15.
I'm not sure.
I know there's a lot of conversation about it though, so.
tim pool
DN says, what happens when the utilities get turned off in the free zone because they stopped paying the bills?
lydia smith
We're going to find out.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
Then they're going to complain that they're being genocided by the regime and they're going to call for the UN to aid them.
Thanks again.
We're gonna call for the UN to aid them.
Renee says, the greatest generation, end of World War II,
baby boomers, due to the end of the war, early 60s, then Gen X, late 60s to 80s,
Millennials, 80s to early 2000, Gen Z, early 2000 to present.
Thanks again, appreciate it.
Stacey, thanks for the super chat, and Aaron, thanks for joining.
Thank you.
RyeCH says, Tim, I got a 9mm pistol yesterday from a private sale, and all I had to do was show my state ID, sign a bill of sale, and I walked away with my gun.
No essay, nothing.
You need to get out of New Jersey.
Yes.
adam crigler
That's the plan.
tim pool
And I guess there's like a, what's it called, Bearing Arms website?
BearingArms.com or whatever?
lydia smith
They wrote an article about you?
tim pool
They wrote an article about me, and they hit the nail on the head.
They basically wrote about what I was talking to Crowder about, and I explained that was difficult, and they gave me the runaround.
And they wrote that on the subsite they believe it is needlessly circuitous to make it very difficult for people to actually do it.
They can't ban the gun outright, but they can make it so difficult people just give up.
And I did give up several times, confused.
So, I didn't say that, but that's literally how I felt.
Every time they gave me different instructions that made no sense, I was like, they're sending me through hoops on purpose so I don't do this.
But they can't legally stop me.
So, we'll see how that plays out.
Big Ben Howard says, I am a Democrat candidate for state rep.
ActBlue is an activist organization that's basically a super PAC that funds and organizes Democratic campaigns.
They're giving me and my team training.
It's super lefty.
Oh, interesting.
Thank you.
Student of History says, Tim, the new plantation is the cities.
Poor people with their food, housing, health care are all handled by the state.
Meanwhile, weapons are restricted, police brutality issues, and over-imprisonment of blacks.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, man.
adam crigler
So we were talking about the other day.
Cities, man.
tim pool
I'm sorry, dude.
You have no excuse to complain about Republicans.
If everything you complain about is rooted in cultural issues, Democrats have rot.
adam crigler
Democrats.
Democratic cities.
tim pool
These people live in New York.
And they go, Trump and the Republicans.
And it's like, Trump's been president for a couple years.
You're in a city, in a state, with congressmen, with governors, all Democrat, always Democrat, and all the problems you complain about all the time, racism, police brutality, and stop and frisk.
That's your politicians!
That's Democrats, dude!
Go to a Republican city.
Are they doing this stuff?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know.
You don't hear about it?
Republicans aren't complaining about it?
adam crigler
That's also true.
I don't hear about it.
tim pool
Then it's funny that I hear this line a lot, especially with Black Lives Matter.
So, I think the dude's name is Andrew Schultz.
Is that his name?
The comedian?
lydia smith
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
tim pool
He's hilarious.
He's amazing.
He had a really great video today.
And it was, I would give it like, I'd give it an A-.
I'd give it an A- because it's really good.
adam crigler
That's pretty, that's high marks though.
tim pool
It is high marks.
It's really good.
It's really funny.
I think he's very thoughtful.
I think he's a very smart guy.
But he does play that line where he's like, He's like, I don't fear that I'm going to get killed by a cop when I encounter them.
And he's like, and that's the thing that you've got to understand that there's a fundamental difference in how police police engage with black communities.
And I'm like, I appreciate it, dude.
But that is coming from somebody probably who is rich.
Because I grew up on the south side of Chicago.
That's not how it works.
Like, yeah, we were worried every time we saw a cop.
You were driving in your car, you got worried.
It doesn't matter what your race was.
So I forgot exactly what the point I was going to go off on that was.
Oh yeah, the cities, right.
So you have people saying that white people don't fear this way that black people do, and it's because of race?
No, it's because most white people in this country that are voting conservative are in rural areas with small police departments.
That's why they don't fear.
But if you're white, if you're mixed Latino or black and you're up on the south side of Chicago, yeah, you're worried.
Like I mentioned before, they would tell us to call the fire department.
If somebody was threatening your life, you need the police.
But for any low-level stuff, they would say, call in a fire.
Because the fire department will show up and it'll deal with whatever the problem is in a non-threatening way.
So it's easy for people who aren't from cities to be like, this is why white people don't fear this.
It's like, nah, man.
You don't get it, man.
Go live in a poor area.
Sure, if you live in the Upper West Side of Manhattan, you're not worried.
They're not going to beat you down because you're rich.
Heavy Arms Guy says, The way BLM operates reminds me of the Nazi Party.
They create a villain, slowly gain political cultural power, eventually they take over and displace common Americans.
Scary times.
Now, I want to make a point, and I want to make it clear, I'm not trying to compare the two in terms of what their
ideologies are.
But I see so many people blindly just posting these memes and stuff,
and I'm like...
adam crigler
Posting anything.
tim pool
And so when you ask questions about why the Germans were so willing to just follow Hitler, it's the same reason people are mindlessly watching any kind of major event or American Idol or sporting events.
It's just because people will do whatever is popular, what society says.
So when I see all the people I know posting the black squares on Instagram, I'm like, bro, you have no idea what you're talking about.
You just saw someone else did it, so you did it.
And it gets dangerous when you make it about political ideology.
Now you got that video from Bethesda, Maryland where they're all sitting there going like, I will love my neighbor.
Yes, I will.
And it's like, bro, that's like cult indoctrination stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So now you have people blindly just following this because everyone told them to do it.
They think it's popular.
I don't care, man.
I'm not joining your cult.
If everybody goes nuts, I got no problem going off in the middle of the woods.
You guys have your thing.
I'm gonna get a dog and go fishing and mind my own business.
Don't tread on me.
Ray Johnson says, the Dems taking over Black Lives Matter is the equivalent of the Republicans hijacking the Tea Party movement.
Politicians will always adopt a cause if it can be made to serve them.
I completely agree, man.
I completely agree.
Owl Aquatic says, when unconditional loyalty to a brotherhood takes precedent over integrity and service to the community, you have ceased to be a peace officer and instead become a criminal gang member.
Spin UFO.
Oh, I'm fighting off a sneeze.
unidentified
I'll spin it.
tim pool
PerryDoesMapping says, I'm here to tell you that the furry fandom is divided like it is out in the real world.
Antifa, pedos, etc.
are driving people out.
I've seen my fellow conservative furry friends get attacked.
It's sad.
Well, there you go.
Bassmaster says, Internet Historian has a good video documenting what happened at a furry convention.
Worth checking out.
Someone sent it to me and I watched it.
lydia smith
Yeah, oof.
tim pool
But is that a smear campaign against furries?
Highlighting the worst?
lydia smith
I don't like that word, smear.
I don't like the furries.
tim pool
Wolf from the Block says, You should check out Internet Historian, the best historian.
Not alt-right or crazy lefty because of my anime profile pic.
Love your show, guys.
Appreciate it.
Mark Robertshaw says, My best friend is a mental health counselor.
He goes to furry conventions to get clients and it works.
So many of these people have untreated mental health issues.
That's the problem these days.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Wow, man.
Shun says, they were an open welcoming community, and they got infiltrated by these zealots.
The community was not like this 10 years ago.
The mindset became an infestation brainwashing people, and all the derangement is palpable.
Bummer, man.
Mr. Obiwan says, my theory is that these people haven't actually experienced the harshness of nature.
For example, during the winter in interior Alaska, it's literally- Alaska is literally trying to kill you because it's minus 45 degrees.
But things still have to get done outside.
Keep up the good work.
I would love to go to interior Alaska in the middle of winter.
Just, like, spend some time.
That'd be great.
adam crigler
I've been to Alaska.
It's beautiful.
tim pool
You've been there in... Where'd you go?
adam crigler
It was the middle of summer.
Which part of... I flew in Anchorage and then stayed in a little town called Girdwood.
Girdwood, yeah, I believe.
That's... A little ski town.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, that's my plan.
When the whole country becomes lefty and editarian weirdos, I'm just gonna go up to Alaska, man.
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
What's that town?
adam crigler
It's wild out there, man.
Wheeling, maybe?
tim pool
Barrow?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Barrow is farthest west, I think.
adam crigler
I like watching those Living in the Alaskan Wild shows.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I love that stuff.
tim pool
Alaska looks awesome, dude.
Ellen Lau says, Canada has gone insane.
Black Lives Matter doesn't care about racial justice and socialism blows.
Parents often told to go back to China.
Surprise, not by white folks.
Mom is Taiwanese and dad ran from China after the commies ended his dad.
Yikes, bummer man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Megan, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Samuel Farmer says, where is the Occupy Wall Street farm?
And do you know if it is still available to be used?
I grew up on a farm, hated it, but now I kind of miss it.
For all opportunity, a blank slate offers.
This was nine years ago.
adam crigler
Yeah.
So I have no idea what happened to that.
tim pool
No idea.
Yeah.
Jake says, you folks forget that debt forgiveness is also taxed as income.
That is another issue, for sure.
Let's see, Sunlit, Bogdan, EC Morgan, and Jurek, thanks for becoming members.
adam crigler
Thank you all.
tim pool
Awesome.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
CRISPR says, what do you honestly think will happen to the cities that are dismantling their police departments?
I worry about cities hiring privatized police or mercenary companies to fill the void.
What was that video you just showed me about Chicago?
adam crigler
It's a crazy shootout, man.
Chicago's crazy right now.
tim pool
So there's a video.
I don't know.
adam crigler
Adam showed it.
I couldn't find a date on it.
tim pool
And it's just a shootout in Chicago, supposedly recently.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And it's just... It sounds like the 4th of July, man.
adam crigler
But it's not.
They're definitely rifles.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
adam crigler
Those are not even handguns.
No, no, no.
tim pool
Those are... And people are like, what's going on here?
Bang!
Cops are shooting back.
It's just crazy.
St.
Louis, there was a major shootout.
adam crigler
It's insane, man.
tim pool
So I'll tell you what's going to happen when they get rid of their police departments.
It's going to be a purge.
Like I was reading, what was it, Murray Hill Riots?
I love it.
The taxi company went and burned down the limousine company.
Like, that's not about justice in any way.
That's just like, settling scores, man.
adam crigler
Wild West.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, you're competing with me, I'll take you down.
Levi Williams says, Every time Lydia says woo, so does my heart.
LOL also, what do you think about holding police to the same standard as the military?
Illegal to unionize, extra duty, pay forfeitures, subject to UCMJ.
No, the police need to be closer to the community, not subject to, I don't know, there's maybe an overlap there.
But I don't know enough about how that would work with UCMJ anyway, to have an opinion, a strong one at least.
AW and Calvin, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you both.
tim pool
Joseph says, outside official state functions, presidential families have to pay for their own meals.
Interesting.
Mike Onega says, I am a history major and I want to be a teacher.
I have complained about bias and nothing happened.
I think the only way to win is to debate them and win while others watch.
I don't agree, man.
Because they don't debate.
As soon as you start talking, they start chanting.
They just call you names.
adam crigler
We're just waiting for you to finish talking so they can shove whatever ideas they have down your throat.
tim pool
Bobby G says, Dear Millennials, Investigate college admins, not Trump admin.
Harass college admin staff, not Trump admin staff.
The ones who taught you and gave you lifelong debt without a job is your enemy, not Trump.
Caleb Field says, our biggest advantage over China currently is our naval force.
China's cyber advantage is our biggest threat from them.
And that is a serious, serious, serious threat, man.
adam crigler
That's very true.
tim pool
Mr. Paul, you know what I find fascinating?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
There was supposedly an airstrike headed towards, I think this was Iran.
I'm not entirely, maybe, I think it was Iran.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
it around and he thought he said something like you know it would it
would have killed 150 Iranians and we didn't think that the retaliation was
you know it fair or equal or whatever so Trump canceled the strike however a
What do you mean?
some sort in Philadelphia exploded just before the strike got called
off.
Now that could just be me connecting the dots where they don't need to be
connected.
But.
adam crigler
What kind of refinery?
What do you mean?
tim pool
I don't I don't remember exactly what it was like an oil plant or
chemical plant of some sort.
And there are ways to blow up industrial facilities
Because I used to go to Black Hat and DEFCON, the hacker conventions, and I actually had someone give me a demonstration of a remote detonation of a chemical facility.
They said what they could do is they could cause two pumps to flow in the same direction, overloading and then causing a pipe burst, which, depending on the chemical substance, would detonate.
So, I'm not saying anything.
I'm just saying I found it interesting, and I had a bunch of security experts and, like, you know, conflict journalists tell me, no, no, no, nothing like that, nothing like that.
But I'm like, isn't it at least possible that we will see some of our water plant, our water pump facilities, our electrical grid or something be attacked, you know, if we enter a real conflict?
You know, isn't that possible?
And if we are sending an airstrike in, wouldn't they try and go after us in some way?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Apparently, like, when we did that elephant walk in Guam, we had to actually pull all of our planes out because China has a weapon that could just wipe out Guam and take out all the planes at once.
adam crigler
Oh, I didn't hear that.
tim pool
Yeah, so we were like, okay, back off.
adam crigler
I heard they were just decommissioning them.
tim pool
Oh, was that it?
adam crigler
Those planes, yeah.
So it was kind of like their final huzzah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Here we go.
El Gonzo says, Tim, I think you're underestimating how inefficient the government budget is.
Perhaps, but didn't we lose like some trillions of dollars just before 9-11?
lydia smith
We did.
tim pool
Yeah, what was that amount?
adam crigler
Like two trillion?
lydia smith
I don't know what that amount was and I just heard about that when we were looking at whatever, Zeitgeist or whatever that movie was.
adam crigler
Yeah, supposedly the room that was handling the investigation is the exact place that got hit.
But it's funny enough though, Space Force, the new show on Netflix, is basically just the Space Force running amok, spending money.
And I actually have a friend of mine who is in the Navy, he's down in Norfolk in Virginia, and he's like, it's actually so accurate.
Like scary and I'm like what super it sounds like a joke like yeah, it's not it's not even good.
It's bad I worked for a company and dude, you know, they're getting sued who by the Space Force.
tim pool
Yeah Yeah, I worked for a company that had a ridiculous budget.
Okay, and it was insane to see what they would spend money on and It's just a waste.
The craziest thing was there was somebody who kept invoicing, somebody I worked with, invoiced the company when I worked with them.
I was like, I want to hire this person for this one project.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then after I had finished, they kept sending monthly invoices.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Even though they weren't working on anything.
And then it wasn't until like a year later, they said to me, like, I said, like, so what's what's left in the budget?
Because I'm looking to, you know, this project.
And they were like, oh, you're good.
Everything's you know, you're totally fine.
Like everything replenished.
And they were like, the only thing that's really been going on is, you know, so-and-so's monthly invoice or whatever.
And I was like, who?
adam crigler
Yeah, what?
tim pool
And they're like, yeah, him and his two staff members.
And I was like, what?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
I was like, I never authorized that.
And they're like, I don't know.
And I was like, what do you mean you don't know?
Is my signature on any of this stuff?
Like, I don't know.
And I'm like, you guys have been paying this dude for a year.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
He just, hey man.
He knows how it works.
He figured, hey, I'm not complaining.
Not my money.
adam crigler
Worth a shot.
tim pool
Not my money.
So, good for him, dude.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
Mark Robertshaw says, See the U.S.
Navy test a new laser weapon that can make the Chinese anti-ship missiles worthless.
That's just what they are showing.
They also have railguns.
Dude, I was reading about a railgun that was so powerful, they fired it at a helicopter, and it caused vacuum pressure that crushed the helicopter.
unidentified
Whoa.
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if that's true.
It was a long time ago I was reading this.
Because when it exited, it sucked all the air out like a tin can.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's great.
Mr. Pickle says, we've been landing, landed planes on boats since World War I.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
The Chinese landed their first plane in the boat in 2010.
We're good on defense.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Wow.
P. Smitty says, Tim, can you please say witness protection in your best Tony Soprano voice?
I don't know what Tony Soprano sounds like.
adam crigler
I've never seen that show either.
tim pool
Steven Gable Tim we have one big advantage on China good or bad
We have 30 plus years of almost continuous combat experience when was the last time China fought a war an
actual war yeah But you got to watch out man cuz like what the Russians did
it's the zap brand again strategy You know keep sending them wave after wave of my own men
until the kill bots quota was filled was it yeah I don't remember exactly on future
adam crigler
They can only kill a certain amount before they shut down.
tim pool
Just send wave after wave of my own men.
adam crigler
Terrible.
tim pool
That's what China will do, though.
lydia smith
As a sacrifice they are willing to make.
adam crigler
Are they, though?
lydia smith
Maybe.
adam crigler
I mean, I've seen a lot of stuff coming from China that I'm sure they don't want the world to see.
I have a feeling most of the Chinese citizens can't stand the CCP.
tim pool
Nah, I don't know about that.
lydia smith
Very indoctrinated.
Worse than Russians.
adam crigler
That's the optimism in me though.
And seeing these videos, people are like, they're doing these little selfies like, this can get me killed.
Just wanted to say to the rest of the world, they don't represent all of us.
lydia smith
I was like, yes.
adam crigler
I'm here for you.
tim pool
Alright, let's see where we're at here.
I love when YouTube gives us the big ol' jump.
unidentified
We'll take this time to tell you all to smash that like button!
lydia smith
Smash it!
adam crigler
Smash it!
tim pool
Absolutely crush that like button if you would like to support the channel.
Share the show with your friends if you think the show is worth sharing.
And you can follow me at Timcast on Instagram and Twitter if you want to see, I don't know, skateboarding and memes and the news and stuff.
You can also follow at AdamKrigler where you can send him story ideas.
adam crigler
You can!
That's great.
I love interacting with you guys.
tim pool
And other such novelties on the Twitter.
lydia smith
Indeed.
adam crigler
Yes, lots of stuff.
lydia smith
Oh yes, this is me.
You can send me things as well if you want to.
I will probably talk to you.
I talk to pretty much everyone who messages me.
I post a lot of memes and philosophy.
tim pool
At Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Lee Watt says, honestly, back on the family job topic, the only thing I've seen where it's multiple generation type profession is farming anymore.
It may be because I myself took part in the system, but you really don't see a family who has multiple generations of accountants.
I don't know, that would be a weird thing, right?
adam crigler
We're just really good with numbers.
tim pool
Just imagine it's like, you know, it's like, so what do you do for a living?
unidentified
Ah, I am an accountant, like my father, and my father before him, and his father before him.
tim pool
It's like, that's a very noble profession.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
For generations.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
No, but for real though, there actually is.
Like, there are family businesses that do accounting.
And they'll have their family come in and do work and see if it happens, you know?
Austin Taylor, thanks for becoming a member.
Oogie Boogie says, planned Destiny at launch and sold raid carries, and my crew and I made $35,000 in around 4 months, just as a hobby.
unidentified
Dope.
adam crigler
I saw them.
Those websites still exist.
People still do that.
tim pool
You can do that?
Sell?
adam crigler
I mean, now people do like Trials of Osiris.
You gotta go flawless to get specific guns.
tim pool
Wow, dude, that's crazy.
Hey man, those are jobs, you know?
The Grizzly says, hey Tim, if I can make a suggestion for your tabletop channel.
I say you guys should use Dwarven Forge tiles.
They're little magnetic painted squares that can link together and they make dungeons and buildings.
I love their stuff.
Ooh, you want to write that down?
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
Dwarven Forge.
That's good.
I'll buy some.
adam crigler
Yeah, that sounds fun.
tim pool
Samuel Farmer says, Adam, sci-fi movies, TV shows are what inspired me to get into science and technology.
It showed me what could be and seeded a desire to create things no one else could dream of.
Not there yet, but I'm working towards it.
adam crigler
Awesome.
tim pool
I think sci-fi movies are good, man.
adam crigler
I feel the same way.
tim pool
Because someone will imagine something, they'll make it in a movie, and then someone will be like, how could we actually do that?
adam crigler
Yeah, Star Trek.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Cell phones.
tim pool
Dude, tablets.
adam crigler
Yeah?
tim pool
Tablets.
Like, Picard's always holding a little tablet, and he's like, it was touchscreen too, wasn't it?
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Man, now we made it.
We invented it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean look at look at the I don't know who who saw the dragon capsule like the the interior They they got rid of all the buttons.
Yeah, they had there's only a few buttons I can't even think like 5,000 miles of copper in the original Wow You know the space spacecraft so they got rid of all of it now.
It's just three flat screens.
It's like yes Star Trek.
Oh That's basically the same.
lydia smith
That's so cool.
unidentified
Here we go.
Wow.
Spicy.
tim pool
Tim Taylo says we have Navy destroyers that can fire three or four times farther than any other modern naval weapons
and the impact is like a bomb.
We have one of those in the South China Sea. It can literally bomb their cities from the sea for pennies given
the ammo is cheap.
Wow. Spicy. Love it.
All right, so we'll take a couple more questions.
We got a ton of new members.
adam crigler
Yeah.
And I will... Thank you, everyone, for becoming members.
tim pool
Alex, Peter, Ligma, and Eric.
Ligma, that's a good one.
Thanks for becoming members.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Justin Brom says... Thank you very much.
Everyone needs a micro farm, growing your own food, raising your own chickens, beekeeping, hunting, and fishing.
Skills like grafting, pest management, equipment, and infrastructure maintenance, all useful.
And then if we get into a war, we'll all be very, very self-sufficient people.
adam crigler
Good, sir.
I applaud you.
lydia smith
Indeed.
tim pool
You know what, man?
Maybe we should put together a nonprofit that is very, very simple and very cheap, but encourages and helps people set up gardens and mini farms on their property.
lydia smith
That'd be so cool.
tim pool
If you've got a lawn.
adam crigler
Permaculture, yo.
tim pool
Yeah, just grow a little bit of food, you know?
Like you were saying the other day, get rid of lawns.
adam crigler
Why do we have lawns?
tim pool
We spend so much energy on grass and we don't do anything with it.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
What do we do?
Do we mulch it?
Like, just compost it?
You can at least grow alfalfa and sell it to a farm for cows to eat or something.
They don't even do that.
adam crigler
You know who likes alfalfa?
Bunnies.
tim pool
Bunnies like alfalfa.
unidentified
They love it.
They love it.
tim pool
The buns.
No, it is funny, like, we have a garden.
You literally just put it in the ground, it grows.
It's magic.
unidentified
It's very magical.
tim pool
It's amazing.
And then you come out one day and you're like, I got food.
lydia smith
We have peas, carrots.
tim pool
But think about what we do with grass.
Yeah, grass just grows too, and then we're like, throw it in the trash!
adam crigler
I mean, if you're one of those deer people, it makes sense.
Sure, have some grass.
lydia smith
That is the only case in which it makes sense.
tim pool
If you're a deer person and you want to eat grass, yeah.
unidentified
Alright, let's see, where are we at?
tim pool
Patrick Carey says, Tim, your channels are having notifications delayed.
I receive them days after the video is posted.
I have to look across all three of your channels multiple times a day to keep up.
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
Well, at least you do.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Lauren Ruddock, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Jean-Pierre Bordeaux says, I get all the Civil War talk, but I sometimes feel like this will end up more like the Revolution of 1848, if you have read up on that.
I haven't, but I will.
adam crigler
Same here, I don't know.
tim pool
Magic Man says, China's PLA are used for propaganda and not for war.
PLA last war was in 1979 against Vietnam and China lost.
Ooh, really?
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Well, it is 10, which means it is time for us to go to bed.
lydia smith
I have an announcement before we leave.
I have created an email for Timcast IRL.
Timcast IRL is not available.
No variation of that was available.
So, our email is spintheufo at gmail.com.
tim pool
I'm hoping that's memorable enough.
We need to make an actual one.
lydia smith
How do you want to do it?
tim pool
We need to make a domain one.
lydia smith
Temporary email is spintheufo at gmail.com.
adam crigler
We can do at timcast.com, can't we?
tim pool
We'll get it sorted.
adam crigler
Right, we'll figure it out.
tim pool
Cameron Young says, Disagree with UCMJ.
Standard for police.
Pointless for civilian population who don't enter war zones.
Also military not protected from double jeopardy.
unidentified
E.g.
tim pool
you can be found innocent in civilian court and still get busted by the military.
Hoo-ya, Navy family.
Interesting.
Well, if you haven't already, before you go, hit the like button.
unidentified
Smash!
adam crigler
What?
Hit it.
I was backing you up there.
lydia smith
With your tiny gavel?
tim pool
Hit it.
adam crigler
No, smash it!
tim pool
Smash that like button!
Tim, Eric Weinstein tweeted earlier, he's trying to get the band back together.
What are your thoughts?
What band?
The Intellectual Dark Web?
lydia smith
I don't know.
They've always been together.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm down to jam.
tim pool
Does Eric play the guitar or something?
We got a couple guitars over here.
We got a spinning UFO.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Anyway, anyway, hit the like button.
We're getting ready for bed.
Thanks for the superchats, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out.
We are live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
until 10.
We usually go over a little bit, but we're trying to make sure we just, you know, are a little stricter on things.
adam crigler
This guy works all day long.
tim pool
I gotta go to bed.
I wake up at like 6.30, get back to work.
And we've got a bunch of stuff in the works for expansion.
That's why we need to maximize the amount of time we have, because we've got a big project coming up.
Top secret for now.
adam crigler
I know what it is.
tim pool
It's magic.
lydia smith
It's not actually literally magic cards or anything.
tim pool
But it's gonna... No, I mean like it's magical.
lydia smith
Yeah, magical.
tim pool
But it's gonna take a lot of work.
It's gonna take a lot of work.
lydia smith
I don't know with you guys.
tim pool
You will learn what everyone else does.
But thanks for hanging out.
Hit the like button, subscribe, notification bell, all that good stuff.
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And we will see you all then.
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