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April 15, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - New Reporting Says Coronavirus Came From Wuhan Biolab, China And WHO Is Covering It Up
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unidentified
Welcome to the show, everybody.
tim pool
This is the TimCast IRL podcast.
I am Tim Poole, and I am joined by... What's up, everybody?
adam crigler
Adam Krigler here.
How you doing?
tim pool
And...
lydia smith
The Invisible Lady.
tim pool
The Invisible Lydia, who doesn't have a camera, but we're here to talk to you guys about stuff and news.
And we got a major breaking story.
This is actually crazy, I can't believe it.
I mean this seriously.
Brett Baier of Fox News reporting.
Sources believe coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab as part of China's efforts to compete with US.
In the story, they basically call it a cover-up.
We got another story from the AP that's basically saying the same thing, that China tried to cover this up This is crazy.
Now, I know a lot of people already on Twitter and already in the chat are saying, we all knew this.
You're right.
We all did.
Finally, the mainstream media is catching up to what everyone else already knew.
But you know what?
adam crigler
Well, not for certain, but this is pretty clear.
This is pretty clear now.
tim pool
Look, how do you confirm something?
When you've got a report from South China University saying this, you've now got corroboration from multiple outlets.
Even you had one guy from, this was from, we talked about this, Washington Post saying they thought it was possible.
Now Fox is saying definitively they have sources who know what's going on, who have seen the briefings, and they're government officials.
But when you combine this with the AP, the Associated Press' story, I think it's fair to say, where is it confirmed is confirmed can get.
adam crigler
I agree.
I mean, that's what I was saying.
Looking at all the stuff that I now have read, it's like, it's pretty clear that they knew what was going on.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
And they were trying to cover it up.
tim pool
Totally.
We got a couple other stories.
There's big protests across the country.
People are rejecting these lockdowns.
And we've also got some, this, not as family friendly, But BuzzFeed News reported, because people can't pay rent, that some tenants are resorting to the world's oldest profession.
If you know what I mean.
There's always a job for someone.
adam crigler
I mean, I do.
I still think that story is...
tim pool
You don't believe it?
Why not?
I don't know.
A landlord says, give me the money, and then there's like some young tenant, you know, and she's like, I can't, and he's like, there are other ways you can pay.
lydia smith
Isn't this how everything, all the plot lines start?
adam crigler
I mean, I'm not saying that it's not possible.
tim pool
I think it's legit.
But I mean, look, it's BuzzFeed, so as trustworthy as BuzzFeed can be, so whatever.
adam crigler
Maybe that's my caution.
tim pool
But all right, so we're going to jump into this first story.
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Often we get a ton of people and so we can't get to everybody, but we will often try to read as many as we can.
We actually usually dedicate like a half an hour to 40 minutes of just like reading through your comments, so...
adam crigler
And sometimes it makes, like, a full-on segment.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's really fun.
tim pool
I mean, typically, yeah.
adam crigler
You get Tim ranting on something.
tim pool
Well, no, I mean, if someone in the super chat asks a question, and then we can talk about it.
Yeah, I mean, that fuels a big portion of the show, so make sure you hop in.
But let's start with the first story.
So this story from Fox News.
Sources believe coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab as part of China's efforts to compete with the U.S.
You see that byline right there?
Brett Baier.
That, to me, is what made this legit.
Brett Baier is like a straightforward news guy.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what I, when I first said it, I was like, yeah, but it's the news.
Like, how do I know I can trust it?
And you were like, it's Bret Baier.
And I'm like, for real?
Oh, that doesn't mean anything to me though.
So I mean, for those out there, I'm clearly, Tim believes him because he's like a straight shooter.
tim pool
I mean, he's boring.
adam crigler
To the point he's boring, yeah.
tim pool
And that's not an insult.
That's respect.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's the kind of news anchor that we need right now.
Not trying to spin something.
Not trying to lie to anybody.
Just, here's the truth.
These are the facts.
Look, that's the news.
tim pool
Good day.
I don't know a whole lot about Brett, and I'm wondering if like, do I got this guy wrong?
Is he really like some crazy opinionated guy?
But the reason I don't think too much about him is because whenever I watch him, He's just basically reading the news.
There's nothing like, and so it's like out of sight, out of mind almost.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so I've seen other people praising him even on the left.
And he's not one of these prime time, you know, uh, opinion pundits.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He's like a regular news guy.
Very dry, very straightforward.
He's reporting this.
This means it is, it is bigger than it's, it's, it's bigger than, than, than the other reporting.
adam crigler
I didn't think these, uh, they, they were, they existed still.
tim pool
Straight news guys?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, no, because they're all becoming so desperate.
No, but you've got like Bill Hemmer, I think is his name.
You've got a handful of straightforward news people over at Fox.
adam crigler
Yeah, so they're out there.
tim pool
Yeah.
And there have been, you know, as much as the left likes to rag on Fox, you've got these professors, these liberal journalism professors praising daytime Fox News for being kind of boring, just like straightforward.
But anyway, Brett reports this.
He says, Exclusive.
COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan laboratory, not as a bioweapon.
But as part of China's efforts to demonstrate that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or greater than the capabilities of the US, multiple sources who have been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government and seen relevant materials tell Fox News.
This may be the, quote, costliest government cover-up of all time, one of the sources said.
The sources believe the initial transmission of the virus was bat to human, and that patient zero worked at the laboratory, then went into the population in Wuhan.
Now let's address the anonymous sourcing thing, which I'm not a big fan of.
adam crigler
Same here.
tim pool
When you see these stories, you always gotta look at the byline.
That's what you're trying to, you know, derive your trust from.
You see the New York Times do this all the time, saying an unnamed source.
You know, my favorite line, I think this is the New York Times, they said, according to sources familiar with Trump's thinking, Seriously?
That's a real line.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
That's embarrassing.
tim pool
He can read his mind.
Brett Baier, on the other hand, though, is a straightforward news guy who's been praised by many people and many partisans on both sides.
And this is where you can trust.
If he's saying he's seen these documents and he thinks this is of merit, then I'm inclined to believe it.
There's a lot of people that could have come out and said this and I'd roll my eyes.
But Brett Baier, he's got 1.4 million Twitter followers.
He is a very high profile, straightforward news guy.
I don't know what else to tell you, man.
We ultimately choose to trust reporters.
This is a major mainstream news organization telling us this.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's pretty huge.
tim pool
Asked by Fox News' John Roberts about the reporting, President Trump remarked at Wednesday's coronavirus press briefing, more and more we're hearing the story.
We are doing a very thorough examination of this horrible situation.
Documents detail early efforts by doctors at the lab and early efforts at containment.
The Wuhan wet market, initially identified as a possible point of origin, never sold bats.
And the sources tell Fox News that blaming the wet market was an effort by China to deflect blame from the laboratory, along with the country's propaganda efforts targeting the U.S.
Yes, and Italy.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
That's why they were so quick to ban the consumption of wild animals, because they wanted to solidify that story.
tim pool
Was that quick, though?
adam crigler
Yeah, it was.
Within a month?
I mean, for them to do that at all says a lot.
So even that they did it, all I'm seeing now is they're just trying to solidify this deflection.
tim pool
Make it the story.
unidentified
Well, hold on.
adam crigler
So now we're blaming the wild animals, so we won't eat wild animals anymore.
tim pool
That doesn't even matter.
Check out this story from the AP.
What Fox has reported is, in a sense, corroborating other reporting from the Associated Press, China didn't warn public of likely pandemic for six key days.
Check this out.
President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, January 20th, But by that time, more than 3,000 people have been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by the Associated Press and expert estimates based on retrospective infection data.
Six days.
That delay from January 14th to January 20th was neither the first mistake made by Chinese officials at all levels in confronting the outbreak, nor the longest lag, as governments around the world have dragged their feet for weeks and even months in addressing this virus.
But take a look at that date.
The delay was from January 14th.
On the 14th, they knew.
And do you know what the World Health Organization did on the 14th?
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Here's the tweet.
6.18am.
Eastern Time.
So what time was it over in China?
6pm?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I think they're 12 hours?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Here's what it says.
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus identified in Wuhan.
Sounds to me like the World Health Organization was purposefully misleading us, or at the very least, useful idiots for the Chinese government, who knew, according to the Associated Press, and withheld the information.
But then why would the World Health Organization say this to us?
adam crigler
Exactly.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Think about it.
Is the World Health Organization lying to us?
They said China told them this, right?
That's what they said, yeah. All right. Well, on the 14th, China knew there was human-to-human
transmission. Did China lie to the World Health Organization, or did they know the truth,
and who then lied to the rest of us? Somebody lied. I bet they lied to the WHO, who then
adam crigler
just believed it, and they're like, oh yeah, their scientists said it.
I mean, that's the optimism in me.
I want to believe them, but I don't know, because I have a hard time trusting anything right now, until seeing the actual proof.
tim pool
This is crazy, because, let me read this here, it says, U.S.
Embassy officials warned in January 2018 about inadequate safety at the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab and passed on information about scientists conducting risky research on coronavirus from bats, the Washington Post reported Tuesday.
This is all now being corroborated.
I think it's funny that we all knew this.
And I'm gonna give a nice hard shout out to people over at YouTube who are too dumb to let the people who do a good job on your platform report the news.
Because as you guys may have heard from the rest of us, whenever we try and report on this, we get suppressed, we get deranked, or demonetized.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Welcome, welcome to How YouTube Functions.
Now, months after the fact, when we were doing reporting saying, hey, this looks like it may be possible, we're now seeing mainstream confirmation of what most of us already knew.
adam crigler
You called that.
tim pool
It's incredible.
Well, I mean, I was skeptical.
And even Senator Tom Cotton was like, we got to entertain the possibility.
You know, this is a thing they're doing.
We even had that story from Nature.
Let me see if I have this, if I have this pulled up.
Here we go.
Nature.com, inside the Chinese lab poised to study the world's most dangerous pathogens from the 23rd of February, 2017.
Maximum Security Biolab is part of a plan to build network BSL-4 facilities across China, and this is a laboratory in Wuhan.
Of course.
And you know what's the funniest thing about these people?
Nature.com went back in January, I guess, and they editorialized the article.
Editor's note, January 2020.
Many stories have promoted an unverified theory that the Wuhan lab discussed in this article played a role in the coronavirus outbreak that began in December 2019.
Nature knows of no evidence this is true.
Scientists believe the most likely source of the coronavirus to be an animal market.
Why would they add that?
For no reason.
adam crigler
And was it what scientists?
Chinese scientists?
Right.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
adam crigler
Because that's what the WHO said that they got their information from.
tim pool
Why go back to 2017 and edit this article?
The information was sound, correct?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Then why change the source?
If we have information that could provide context, going back and changing it is suspect.
lydia smith
That looks so shady.
adam crigler
Indeed.
I totally agree.
tim pool
And you know what's really funny too?
The New York Times and CNN will like stealth edit articles.
That's when they don't let you know they changed things.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But here we get this editor's note.
We just want to let you know.
adam crigler
January 2020.
tim pool
CNN just got busted.
adam crigler
What day in January too?
Because January was a crazy month.
tim pool
End of the month I'd imagine.
CNN got busted writing Chinese propaganda as news.
adam crigler
Yeah, you mean Z-N-N?
tim pool
Z-N-N, yeah, G-N-N.
I like that.
adam crigler
That's a thing going around, it's pretty funny.
tim pool
Check this out.
Reporting, I'm sorry, responding to the report, General Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday afternoon, It should be no surprise to you that we have taken a keen interest in that, and we've had a lot of intelligence take a hard look at that.
I would just say at this point, it's inconclusive, although the weight of evidence seems to indicate natural, but we don't know for certain.
Americans were originally helping train the Chinese in a program called Prevent, well before the Chinese started working on this virus.
The French government helped the Chinese set up the Wuhan lab.
China, quote, 100% suppressed data and changed data, the sources tell Fox News.
Samples were destroyed, contaminated areas scrubbed, some early reports erased, and academic articles stifled.
There were doctors and journalists who were disappeared, warning of the spread of the virus and its contagious nature and human-to-human transmission.
China moved quickly to shut down travel domestically from Wuhan to the rest of China, but did not stop international flights from Wuhan.
Additionally, the source tells Fox News the World Health Organization was complicit from the beginning, helping China cover its tracks.
Trump announced the White House coronavirus news briefing in the Rose Garden on Tuesday that the United States will immediately halt all funding for the WHO, saying it had put political correctness over life-saving measures.
The United States is the WHO's largest single donor, and the State Department had previously planned to provide the agency $893 million in the current two-year funding period.
Senior administrations separately tell Fox News the rollout of the president's blueprint for reopening the U.S.
economy will happen Thursday afternoon, first for governors and then briefed to the press.
They say, meanwhile Trump's own handling of the crisis has come into focus.
On January 24th, for example, Trump tweeted in praise of China's transparency on coronavirus.
Though they were not speaking for the president, the sources ventured an explanation, saying it was diplomatic to make the Chinese feel good while the investigation was ongoing, with trade and other talks happening simultaneously.
In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they were likely facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people.
Millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebration.
They knew They had to have expected what was going to happen.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Or wanted it to happen.
adam crigler
The fact that they shut down traveling from Wuhan to anywhere else in China, and then let anyone in Wuhan, oh, you're leaving China?
Okay, we don't care.
tim pool
Yeah.
International flights, go for it.
adam crigler
Are you kidding me?
It's like it got out and they were like, oh, it wasn't supposed to get out on our territory.
Well, let's contain it as much as possible and hope it hurts them more than it hurts us.
tim pool
Exploiting it.
adam crigler
That's what it feels like.
tim pool
That's why it's kind of crazy to me that they're saying it was an accident.
Because like, you put out all these stories, man, saying that they were withholding information, which hurt us and caused massive damage.
That, you know, BuzzFeed News reported that Chinese trolls were trying to slow down the response in Italy and Taiwan.
That's an act of aggression.
So it's weird for me to assume that some dude slips on a banana peel, this accident results in this major pandemic, and then there's like, let's roll with it.
I mean, I guess.
It's possible.
But it's like, you're saying that everything they're doing to hurt us in this was just fortuitous for them?
adam crigler
I mean, it's basically moves of war.
They're moving the chess pieces and we're just trying to, you know, we're not even realizing we're playing this game right now.
tim pool
Well, I think our military does.
adam crigler
I absolutely agree.
That's why they came down on that the naval guy.
tim pool
Yeah.
For making us look weak.
So what's truly fascinating about this story is that numerous mainstream outlets have slowly been walking towards this theory for a long time.
I mean, I talked about this months ago.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we had a report that a researcher said, here's what we think happened.
China suppressed the study.
Now we have more mainstream reporting.
But look, it's April 3rd, the trail leading back to the Wuhan labs.
And then also the same thing, like, we can't prove it, we can't prove it.
But here's more evidence.
Here's more evidence.
I think at a certain point, it's really fascinating to me how the media handles these things.
Because it's like a dam breaking almost.
You can see on the other side all of these bits of evidence piling up.
You get to a point where a reasonable person says, I think I know what happened.
But the media won't say it.
Until finally they have a smoking gun.
All of a sudden then it's mainstream.
Boom.
Just one day.
So now I see people on Twitter are going nuts with this.
But here's what's really freaky.
Jennifer Zhang is a YouTuber.
I'm not super familiar with who she is, but she's been tweeting a lot about what's going on.
She tweeted this image, and she writes, presumably a translation.
Urgent notice.
All county, town, and village departments.
All government departments in all towns and villages must continue to implement the Level 1 response measures.
Resume all previous disease prevent and control measures, and make sure nothing goes wrong.
When leaders from province come to make unannounced inspections this week, implement all control measures at all communities, especially old communities, for densely populated places such as hotels, markets, liquor stores, and parks.
Resume temperature taking and registering mainly.
And then there's April 13th.
She says, mainly apply to people from other places, Hubei and Wuhan.
In the meantime, take control measures in villages according to local situations.
All the above measures must be implemented within one hour.
Xintai County.
What does it say?
Of Henan Province.
Coronavirus Pneumonia Control Office.
I'm sorry, she said, sorry, should be Hubei Province.
So I don't, Hebei Province.
Apparently, she tweeted this out, what is this?
This is yesterday morning.
And people are saying, the gist of it, China's going into lockdown again.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They just started talking in the news, no new deaths, no new cases.
They're leaving lockdown, back in lockdown.
You know what, man?
I'll tell you what.
There's no evidence right now to suggest this is a bioweapon, at least where we're at.
Fox News is reporting that China was trying to show that they could keep up with the U.S., and they made a big mistake.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So even now, the government actors, you know, the general whatever, haven't confirmed that.
But I'll tell you what, man.
Could you ask for a more perfect biological agent for this country?
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
You could not?
No, that's exactly what they were... So again, I want to clarify, I am in no way suggesting, I am saying this is extremely fortuitous in every way for them, and it makes me suspect.
I'd like to see this investigated, because now we know there's a cover-up that's being reported by multiple outlets.
But here's what I was thinking.
If this virus was like Ebola level, it'd be shut down in two seconds.
If you wanted something to be truly effective at hurting people, you'd want an airborne virus, you'd want a two-week incubation period, and you'd want a decently low mortality rate.
Enough to cripple the country in panic and fear, to shut down naval vessels, and weaken your enemy.
adam crigler
Yeah, but at the same time, they admit they want to be better than us.
They want to prove that they can handle things better than Americans can.
So, if it did get out, and there was Americans that were like, they have this lab that we should be worried about.
And they're like, no, no, no, we could, we can do this.
We can handle it.
And then it gets out and they're like, oh man, don't tell anybody that it got out.
Like, let's try to, you know, put a cap on this.
And then it blows up and now it's a worldwide pandemic.
You know, there, I can see the argument that they have, they just fumbled this in the worst way possible, you know, and that, that it might not be any sort of active war.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I actually think the Fox news story makes the most sense.
Yeah. And that's why I'm not surprised by it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm surprised it's Brett Baier reporting it because I didn't think we'd get hard confirmation like this.
Yeah. But what you just said, I, I, the, the, the, I really don't think they would try to cripple their own economy.
Exactly. I do think they're bumbling morons who slipped on a banana peel and dropped a glass vial and went, oh, no.
adam crigler
Uh-oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then it got out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That makes way more sense.
Some people have tried to say that because of the trade war and because China's economy has been seriously hurting, that this was their act of aggression.
I don't know.
adam crigler
I think it would have been way worse.
tim pool
No, I don't.
I don't.
adam crigler
I think it would have been worse if it was really them trying to hurt us.
tim pool
How could it be worse?
adam crigler
I mean, we have those reports from the Department of Justice.
They've been smuggling in SARS virus to America.
So if it originated in Wuhan, we have all these, you know, the travel logs of like how
it spread from Wuhan, and it's very clear from there.
If they wanted to really hurt us, they would have dropped it in New York City.
tim pool
Kansas.
adam crigler
Sure, wherever.
In the middle of the country, so that it spread from here.
And it really didn't do that.
tim pool
You're right, that's a good point.
Because they've tried claiming that it originated in the US.
That's what one of the Chinese officials has said.
adam crigler
But that doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
Of course.
If China really wanted to win, they would have made it.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, so for those that didn't see that story either, Yahoo News and other outlets have reported that over the past several years, Chinese scientists were illicitly bringing in viruses.
adam crigler
Yeah, some people got caught with it and lied about it until they were like, well, what's this vial?
Oh, well, now that you've found that vial, actually, it's the SARS virus.
And it's like, what?
tim pool
I think we got ourselves a case of Three Stooges Syndrome.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
It's China going, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, slipping and then shattering the vial and then going... For real, that's what it is.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I mean, it's not surprising that what Fox News is reporting, I think most of us expected this.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But I want to entertain another possibility.
Or maybe not a possibility, but I want to highlight this article.
You know, China is harvesting organs.
I pulled this up just because I want to show you that these people are twist, like their culture, their government, whatever you want to call it.
It has nothing to do with race.
It has to do with a group of people that are harvesting organs.
So I got to wonder what they're doing.
And I also got to wonder why I should trust them.
But again, I do think Fox News' reporting really does make the most sense.
They're bumbling morons.
As much as I think they would intentionally do really, really messed up stuff, I think more so there's this common problem we see with communism.
Chernobyl.
It almost reminds me of someone doing a jigsaw puzzle, and they find a piece that looks like it could fit, it doesn't, so they just start pounding on the table.
That's how I describe how these communist countries try and implement these ideas.
You know, like Chernobyl, it's like, you can see it's a nuclear reactor, we kinda understand how it'll work, and then, it blows up and sprays radioactive, you know, carbon or whatever into the atmosphere.
Or like, China being like, we're gonna make a biolab, and then they just start slamming on the table to make it fit, and then, boom.
Breach.
Like, they're nasty, what they're doing with people trying to forcefully harvesting organs.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
I wonder, though, man.
adam crigler
It's really messed up.
tim pool
What do we do, if this story is true?
adam crigler
I mean, what do you mean, if?
Do we not know for certain that they're doing this?
tim pool
Okay, so what do we do now that we know the story is true?
adam crigler
So it's officially true now?
It's like, it's not that I didn't believe it, you know, because there's been some sources.
tim pool
What more could we have to confirm this?
That's the challenge, right?
So I know YouTube's already gonna smack us in the face for even talking about it.
They're gonna derank, this segment will be demonetized 100%, they're gonna say, how dare you say it?
Yeah, well, you got multiple, that's the Washington Post, you got a professor from Rutgers, you got Fox News, Brett Baier, they're all saying it.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
What else do we need to say this is confirmed?
Because I'll tell you what, I know there's gonna be a lot of people reluctant to say it is.
Even part of me, I'm like, oh man, do we say it?
But here's the thing, a university in China released a paper saying they were experimenting on bats, some guy got bit, some guy got peed on, and he had to quarantine himself, they think that was the probable source.
You then had the Washington Post saying we need to talk about this, the National Review, conservative paper, saying let's talk about this, all roads leading back to the lab, and now Brett Baier saying sources familiar with the reactions are saying this, and the AP Coming out saying China withheld the information and the World Health Organization lied to us.
What more does anyone need to say?
Boom.
There it is.
adam crigler
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
And it's not it's not to say whether it was it was malicious or not because that it's irrelevant for this for this all to seem it is true.
tim pool
No, it was malicious.
adam crigler
Well, that's not what they're saying.
tim pool
It absolutely is.
adam crigler
They're saying it originated from Wuhan.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
Them lying for six days.
Yes, that's malicious for sure.
Absolutely.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
But was it... You mean intentional spread.
adam crigler
Right.
Was that them bumbling and going, what do we do for six days?
tim pool
Good point.
adam crigler
Or was it like them going, all right, let's let the rest of the world brew on it.
tim pool
I actually agree.
You make a good point.
I think the six days of doing nothing was Three Stooges Syndrome.
Yeah, I think they were running around in circles bopping each other on that going.
adam crigler
Yeah Someone give me an answer someone give me an answer right now six days later.
All right.
tim pool
Let's just tell the world Yeah, no, they're probably just too stupid to yeah, they didn't know what to do.
Yeah, it wasn't about an answer It was like Xi Jinping is going like you over there Give me a report and then he like runs over and slams into like a low-hanging tree branch or something and falls down Yeah, and then the other one and he's like See it?
You know, it's just bumbling around like morons You know they have
Malintent like I mentioned with those camps there. They're doing. Oh, yeah, but yeah, I look I think
Even if they were they were bumbling around like stooges, which it really does seem like they were at least that's
what the evidence You know suggests now
They could have told us Exactly.
But that's, you know what?
I gotta be fair.
It, being a moron, I think you would be predisposed to not ask for help.
You know what I mean?
Like, they think they're all tough.
adam crigler
Their whole thing is to try to be better than us.
Or, better than everyone.
You know?
It's like, so they're like, they're trying to save face.
unidentified
Dude.
adam crigler
As much as possible.
And now it's, now it's crumbling.
And what's worse is, it's crumbling in their, their citizens are starting to get upset.
Their citizens are starting to group up and band together, because they're sick of this also.
Which leads to our next segment, so I don't want to talk about that, but it's interesting stuff.
tim pool
My question then is, we've got all this reporting stacked up.
We are now operating under the assumption, this is true.
They knew, they lied, the World Health Organization lied, that this may have, according to Fox News, was a breach, an accidental breach.
What do we do?
Some people on Twitter have said, wipe all of the U.S.
debt to China.
That's it.
Boom.
I don't owe you anymore, bro.
You caused this problem.
You cost me money.
I'm not paying you back.
adam crigler
I mean, see, that's where we get into the big hearty reminder that they make all of our medicine still.
They make everything still for us.
We rely on them.
People are talking about old people dying.
It's like, okay, cut China off.
And then all of those people that need their blood thinner medicine or insulin.
I mean, I could go on, you know, it all comes from China.
Vitamin C. Everything comes from China right now.
So it's like, we can't do that.
tim pool
You know what's crazy?
You know, Obama, the Obama administration wanted more U.S.
jobs to go to China.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
The idea was that it would force China to like it would force our economies to intertwine
and that would prevent China from overtaking us. That was their idea.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So send more American jobs over to China. That's called the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Trump shut it down on like what day one, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, really early.
tim pool
The first thing he does wasn't really but like actually it might have been.
lydia smith
Well that had been bothering him.
I think that troubled him the most when he got elected.
tim pool
Totally.
But Bernie said the same thing.
The TPP, it would have sent hundreds of thousands of jobs over to China.
adam crigler
Yeah, we need those jobs.
tim pool
So the idea they had, the way they explained it is, it would make them dependent upon us for these jobs.
adam crigler
You know, and a lot of people have tweeted at me, like, because we've talked about this before, and they say, you know, it wouldn't work because America has a minimum wage.
And then we, you know, you couldn't make products as cheap.
And it's like, you know what the problem with this is?
People buy cheap things and they break and then they go buy more because there's more.
Why?
Let's go back to making quality stuff that is more expensive, but it lasts forever.
tim pool
You know, and you can fix it.
This is the craziest thing.
Wealth inequality, all these lefties are complaining about, it's driven by open borders.
That's why I don't understand.
It's an impossible political situation these people have put themselves in.
And that's why you'll never see me supporting it.
Listen, if you have a billionaire in the United States, and he says, I'm going to make socks for people to put on their feet.
You know why?
Because Americans need things on their feet.
Everybody does.
So then he goes and sends all of the factories to China.
The Americans then go to the store and say, one pair of socks please, pay the ten bucks.
That ten dollars goes to China and then a portion of it goes to the billionaire.
Or I should say it goes to the billionaire and then he gives his cut to the factories.
The wealth inequality is being driven by the fact that the American worker has been removed from the equation.
The American worker gives their money away for the product, gets nothing in return, and the billionaires make cash, and the Chinese laborers make the money.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
It's driving wealth inequality.
So this is why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump had very similar policies.
It was very populist, nationalist, pro-America.
Bernie made the mistake of chasing after these people who don't believe in anything.
It's crazy.
I saw this tweet, it was like Cardi B.
was doing an interview with Bernie Sanders and said something like... I saw that.
She said that Open Borders is capitalist.
I saw that tweet.
I don't know if it's true.
But it is.
Even Bernie Sanders said this back in 2015.
Open Borders is a Koch Brothers proposal, right-wing proposal, for cheap labor.
adam crigler
Oh, you want to bring factories back to America?
Well, we're going to need cheap labor so we can still make the profit that we've been used to.
tim pool
And that's why they want illegal immigrants.
adam crigler
Exactly.
unidentified
Man.
adam crigler
It's like, stop worrying about product and let's make America strong and bring that middle ground back to the American citizens.
tim pool
So this is why I think it's interesting to talk about the disappearing middle class, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, because you've sent it overseas.
Exactly.
It's crazy.
But what's really fascinating is that you can have, in 2016, a Donald Trump and a Bernie Sanders saying the same things.
You know that there's leaked audio of Donald Trump back in the day saying, like, Bernie is the one I'm really worried about because he's a trade guy and trades my thing.
Yeah.
So I think the reason why the Democratic establishment really, really hates Bernie is that as much as he flip-flopped and started bending the knee to them, he does represent an end of this international, what they call the neoliberal economic order or whatever, something like that, where it's like, we're going to keep expanding free trade, send more jobs overseas.
That's an extraction of our economy.
And eventually it collapses.
You end up with exactly what we're seeing now.
Silicon Valley being a really great example.
Silicon Valley's all these billionaires.
Meanwhile, down at the first floor, human waste all over the streets.
Homelessness, drug abuse.
Even the police who are working in San Fran can't afford to live there.
And you know where the labor is done for these tech firms?
adam crigler
No, I don't.
tim pool
It's Eastern Europe.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
And because it's cheap.
It's really cheap and easy to do.
adam crigler
Profit.
Profit and greed.
tim pool
Well, it's interesting.
It's capitalist.
It's not left-wing.
I don't understand why these... Dude, remember what we were saying yesterday when I said people on the left... Being on the left doesn't mean you're mentally deficient, but people who are mentally deficient will be attracted to the left.
The far left, I mean.
And I think it's because they give you pie-in-the-sky solutions.
They tell you that they're going to give you rainbows and candy canes, and then people think, I want that.
Whereas a mature adult is going to say, I don't believe you.
You know, that's too good to be true.
adam crigler
Right.
So what do you really want?
tim pool
Well, what you end up getting are, you know, the Democratic Socialists of America voted at their, it was like in September, I think, for open borders.
How did you convince all of these lefties who are supposed to be fighting for labor to support one of the most capitalistic systems ever?
adam crigler
Yeah, trying to protect labor.
That's going to ruin labor.
tim pool
Totally.
adam crigler
In America.
tim pool
Yep.
Factory's gone.
But you know what it is?
adam crigler
No, it's not gone.
Your jobs are gone.
tim pool
You're right.
adam crigler
That's what I mean.
If they go to the people that aren't registered, then they can pay dirt cheap.
tim pool
Have you seen that video from the DSA meeting where the guy stands up and he's like, uh, point of personal privilege, um, my name's, you know, John Smith, he, him.
Can I just let everybody know that, you know, the chatter is really giving me anxiety, so can we keep the chatter to a minimum?
And then he's like, guys, please.
And then all of a sudden someone starts huffing and puffing, gets up and goes, do not use gendered language!
You've not seen this?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Oh man, well you've seen it.
unidentified
I have.
tim pool
I think a lot of people have seen it.
lydia smith
Unfortunately.
tim pool
But the reason I bring this up, and if you haven't seen it, seriously look up the viral video from the Democratic Socialists.
You look at how these people behave, and I think it's fair to say they're not all there.
I'm not trying to be mean.
I'm not saying this to get an emotional reaction out of somebody, but they're clearly not with it.
What do you think then happens if you go to them and say, we should have no borders, right?
They're gonna be like, yes.
And then you're simultaneously gonna say, but we're working for the labor unions, right?
Yes.
Yeah, that's right.
Get people who are too dumb to recognize their contradictory ideas.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So this is what I don't get about Bernie Sanders.
adam crigler
I don't know what any of it means.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But they'll stand up and say, you know, John Smith, he, him, his.
It's like, thanks, I guess.
Whatever.
adam crigler
Sure, we'll keep the chatter down.
tim pool
But it was it's it's it's really yeah, but then they don't this is really funny.
They don't keep it down Yeah, and then there's another like there's another clip where he gets up and he starts yelling again I already said keep the chatter to the minimum.
It is triggering to my anxiety Yeah, they're like it's it's it's like toddlers in adult bodies Yep, I see it all over the place So now we have basically an end to these policies.
This is the craziest thing to me.
I don't understand why there are so many conservatives trying to downplay what's going on or act like it's not happening.
It's like Trump is getting what he wants.
There was a new report that came out saying factories are coming back.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
Boom.
adam crigler
Good.
tim pool
It's like a guillotine dropped and just sliced it in half.
Gotta come back.
adam crigler
All these people in the chats were like, Is Adam talking MAGA right now?
Maybe.
lydia smith
Maybe not.
adam crigler
I mean, jeez, I was!
A little bit, yeah.
I mean, there is something to be said about them having all of the factories, all of our medicine is made over there.
If it was made here, we would be stronger, wouldn't we?
We would.
It's a simple truth.
tim pool
This is the weird politics that's happening right now.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Bernie Sanders.
I was a big fan of him back in like 2015 and 16.
You know why?
You know what Bernie Sanders was saying?
We need border security.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We need to fight for the working class.
He was talking about national populist positions that spoke to a lot of Americans.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, this guy's right.
He was asked about Second Amendment.
Urban versus rural debate.
And I was like, wow.
Yeah.
That's legit, man.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
I've seen it.
And then all of a sudden, he starts getting closer and closer.
And what does he do?
I don't know, man.
That million dollars looks pretty good.
That fourth house?
That looks pretty good.
adam crigler
He's only got three.
He's only got three.
I'm just kidding.
tim pool
Does he only have three?
adam crigler
He's got three houses!
Only three.
Come on.
unidentified
Dude, that dude flipped so quick.
tim pool
And now that's like the big thing right now.
The true progressives are like, no, Bernie.
We're not going to get behind you.
But that's what's crazy.
A lot of people don't seem to get it.
I disagreed a lot with Bernie's policies.
He put out something that said that they were going to pay for college by putting a tax on speculation on Wall Street.
And so I remember I was hanging out by 30 Rock, and there were some progressives.
They were talking about it, and they said that they supported him because he was going to, you know, free college and all that.
And I was like, yeah, but how do you pay for that?
Like, because you gotta realize, if you promise free college, then you've now got basically every single person eligible to go, which means the schools will fill up and then no one can go.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You need more schools.
Alright.
You need bigger schools.
You need more professors.
That's a lot of money you can't predict.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But let's say you do say it costs, you know, 75 trillion or some ridiculous number.
Where does it come from?
And this progressive guy was like, we're gonna tax Wall Street.
And I was like, I don't know what that means.
What do you tax?
adam crigler
And does he even know what that means?
tim pool
He did not.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And so I asked him.
adam crigler
It's such a fluff piece.
tim pool
It means nothing.
I was like, what do you mean by taxing Wall Street?
And he was like, you know, like stocks and stuff, they make all that money.
And I was like, do you know what most of those stocks are and where that money goes?
It's like people's 401ks and stuff.
It's not like, you know, they're day traders, they're speculation.
But most of what you see in, like, Wall Street trading is, like, pensions or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know how it works.
And I was like, but it's not, like, you're assuming there's some, like, rich dude in, like, a pinstripe suit smoking a cigar making a million bucks.
adam crigler
Yeah, see?
unidentified
Ha ha.
tim pool
Yeah, that's all.
adam crigler
Or writing on the wall.
tim pool
Right.
That was commissions and stuff.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then his progressives started getting mad, saying, like, what do you mean?
Like, you don't know it's Wall Street, man.
They're making all this money.
And I was like, dude, do you even understand how trade volume works?
adam crigler
No, I don't.
tim pool
Yeah, if you put a tax on a product, you increase the cost of the transaction, people might not make the transaction, you might not make any money at all.
So look, anyway, the point is, there are things about Bernie Sanders I completely disagreed with.
But there are a lot of points he made, and that's why so many people switched from Bernie to Trump, that's why they're probably gonna do it again.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Although now, Bernie has tried to adopt, like, dude, a year ago, he was saying, what was he saying?
Like, there's too many poor people in the world, we can't have open borders.
Where does he go in the debate last month?
Decriminalize the border crossings.
Amnesty.
Jobs.
It's like you have completely abandoned everything.
adam crigler
Desperation.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's gotta be.
tim pool
This is what bugs me out because it's like I was saying about the DSA and all that.
Their positions are completely contradictory.
Bernie did an interview with the New York Times and they said, you know, in 2015 you said illegal immigration reduces low-skill wages.
And he was like, yes, it absolutely does.
And they're like, so you admit it.
And then all of a sudden he got flack from the left again.
He had to, they're like, no, Bernie, you're wrong.
It doesn't.
adam crigler
It does.
tim pool
We know it does.
This is what people need to realize about Bernie Sanders.
He's not consistent.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's not like a lot of people do that meme, no refunds.
adam crigler
He's supposed to be the consistent one, right?
The one who's been speaking the same thing for a long time until he got the major platform that he now has.
Sold a book.
And now he's changed.
tim pool
He no longer says the millionaires.
Now he just says the billionaires.
He's in the club.
It's a big club.
You ain't in it.
Trump's been pretty consistent.
I mean, I gotta admit, Trump says stupid things a lot.
Like the most recent thing he said about having absolute power.
Nah, there's no excuse for that.
Or like, I can reopen the states.
Nah, you can't, dude.
I'm sorry.
But look, you know, the media screeches in his face All day, every day.
And it's like, I get it, man.
I get it.
Okay.
All right.
If people want to vote for the guy, then vote for the guy.
What bothers me is people coming out and acting like Bernie Sanders isn't in a similar position with his lying and his flip-flopping.
They're like, he's consistent.
I'm like, no, he's not.
You know, nobody says it.
But Trump's been talking about China and all this stuff for a really long time.
His position has been pretty, pretty straightforward.
But the main point I want to bring up is people are saying you're talking MAGA.
I'm like, no, I mean, yes, technically.
But Trump is a moderate.
I'm quoting Vox here, the left-wing progressive site.
So he runs and says, I want to do these basic things the Democrats used to campaign on.
I think what happened was Trump comes out as a Republican but offers up a moderate Democrat kind of position without the elitism and the ivory tower
kind of behaviors, you end up with a guy who's saying, secure our borders, America first,
repair our economy, bring back our jobs, protect the unions.
And I'm like, that sounds like a union worker, their positions on how the government should
adam crigler
be run.
Or like a Democrat from the 90s.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, but even then you still had the elitist ivory tower Democrats.
Like, you look at these union guys, when the guy confronted Biden on the AR-15, like, these are union Democrat dudes.
And they're like, why do you want to take away my right to bear arms or whatever?
And Donald Trump says, I won't.
And all of a sudden you end up with a moderate guy.
Trump was pretty I don't know what the right way to describe it is, but pretty, let's say, fierce on key issues.
Yeah, he was.
Like, one of the things that I think was the stupidest thing he ever said was that Donald Trump was calling for a complete and total ban on Muslims entering the country or whatever.
It's like a statement from his campaign.
adam crigler
Yeah, I remember that.
tim pool
I went back and I watched it.
He said some things that were absolutely worthy of criticism, but I think what happened was, if you come out, if you're Donald Trump, and you make yourself the villain, but then say something like, I want to secure the border, the Democrats then had no choice but to reject anything he ever proposed, which makes them seem insane.
It's almost like, you know Bizarro Superman?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, so there's Superman and he's all like- Like evil Superman?
He's not evil.
Oh, okay.
So, regular Superman is all, like, charming and chiseled and handsome.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Bizarro is, like, underbite, really dumb, and he's, like, reverse Superman.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, so he's, like, he's not necessarily evil, but everything's backwards.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So he speaks in, like, opposites.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That's what the Democrats have been doing.
It's like, you ever see that episode of Seinfeld?
Where George Costanza is like, today I'm gonna do everything the opposite of what I would normally do.
adam crigler
I have seen it, but I don't remember at all.
tim pool
It's basically what the Democrats have been doing.
They're like, they're holding up a list of things Trump said he's for, and they must oppose.
So they end up being opposed to ridiculous things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Anyway, we somehow- For things that actually do make sense.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Right.
That they should be like, you know what?
That's actually a good idea.
Okay.
tim pool
We'll concede.
So is Adam talking MAGA?
adam crigler
No, no, no.
I'm not talking MAGA.
I'm talking MAG.
tim pool
MAG?
adam crigler
M-A-G.
Make America Great, period.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Or greater.
tim pool
Greater.
adam crigler
Yeah, make America greater.
Mug.
Mug.
I think is the best way to put it.
Because we are great.
And we could be better.
Let's be better.
tim pool
But the narrative on the left is that America was never great.
That's literally what they say.
unidentified
We're so spoiled.
adam crigler
Whoever is saying that out there, they're spoiled.
They have no idea.
That that frustrates me man. Yeah They have no idea how great America actually is
It's like you don't travel the world and and then come back and and tell them to go not travel Europe
Not not Europe go go to like Morocco. Yeah, go to go to like the China like I was in South Africa, right?
And I landed in Cape Town.
Beautiful place.
But then I had to travel for like an hour and a half outside.
And as soon as you get outside, there's no green grass anymore.
You know, it's like the favelas of Brazil, almost the same, you know?
tim pool
Shady towns.
adam crigler
Yeah, they have to walk for water.
And it's like, you have no idea how great America is.
This place is amazing.
And we can make it better.
tim pool
You know what China's doing right now?
adam crigler
What are they doing?
tim pool
McDonald's.
adam crigler
Yes, what is up with this now?
tim pool
Tell people a little bit what you heard.
adam crigler
Alright, well, man, China is crazy, man.
They're now basically saying black people are spreading the virus more than others.
And McDonald's is now saying you're not allowed in if you're black.
tim pool
That's so messed up!
Do you have any idea what would happen to McDonald's if they did that in this country?
adam crigler
Goodbye, McDonald's.
I mean, I haven't eaten there in forever, but it's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah, I wouldn't want to eat there.
adam crigler
That is so messed up.
tim pool
If McDonald's handed out flyers banning people based on race, first, their stock price would drop by like 50% as soon as the news broke.
Everyone would sell all their stock.
I'm assuming they're publicly traded.
I don't know.
adam crigler
Whatever.
tim pool
I don't know.
Then all of a sudden the federal government would immediately step in and issue a bunch
of fines.
They would be shut down in minutes.
adam crigler
McDonald's would disappear.
tim pool
Totally.
It would disappear.
And I mean if they did it at a corporate level they did it.
adam crigler
I doubt it was at a corporate level.
It was probably like...
tim pool
No, no, it was at a government level.
adam crigler
So, yeah, the Chinese government made them all do it, right?
unidentified
Dude.
adam crigler
Man, the CCP virus, yo, that's it.
tim pool
Americans, man, we got too many spoiled people.
adam crigler
Let's place the blame where it belongs.
tim pool
Man, I wonder if, like, how do you restore that worldliness to some of these people?
It's no surprise that a lot of these people who are saying America was never great are city folk.
adam crigler
Yeah.
City folk are even more spoiled.
tim pool
I was thinking about this when I lived in New York.
I'm standing in front of my apartment and I'm like, there's a sidewalk under my feet.
There's a park in front of my apartment.
There's a water fountain with fresh running water.
All of these things have always been here.
adam crigler
And not only that, I can have any kind of food I want.
To my doorstep.
tim pool
With an app.
adam crigler
In 30 minutes.
tim pool
Press a button.
unidentified
Boop.
tim pool
All of a sudden.
adam crigler
Most people in cities, they're ordering out.
tim pool
I got one more for you.
adam crigler
Go on.
tim pool
Not only can I have any food delivered to my doorstep, in New York City, I can press a button and get Venezuelan arepas delivered to my apartment while people in Venezuela are starving and can't even eat that food.
We have access to food from countries that can't even make the same food themselves.
lydia smith
That's mind-bending.
tim pool
But here's the point I was making about this.
I'm looking at all these things that are just there.
I remember I was crossing the Williamsburg Bridge and I'm like, man, look at this massive bridge.
Had to cost the equivalent of like a billion dollars to make.
It's just there.
You never have to think twice about all the back-breaking labor that went into making that.
So what do you think's gonna happen then?
If you grow up in a city where this is your baseline, everything's just been handed to you.
Now compare that to going out in the middle of nowhere, maybe in the middle of Wyoming or Montana, and you're like, we're gonna live here.
Is there any water?
Nope.
Start digging.
adam crigler
You gotta dig yourself a well.
tim pool
We're gonna put a pump.
Yup.
adam crigler
You need to go to the store?
30 miles.
tim pool
Dude, I was driving through Wyoming.
Yeah.
And I had a full tank of gas.
We were like, stop, we got gas.
I was driving with my friend.
We drove for hundreds of miles without seeing a gas station.
I thought we were running out of gas.
And I'm like, well, that's it.
There's like nothing here.
We're out of gas.
adam crigler
I guess we're going to live here now.
tim pool
Yep. This is life. It's nothing for hundreds of miles.
And then there was this little tiny shop with two gas pumps.
And I did not even realize there was a gas station till my friend was like,
look, pumps. And I was like, whoa.
And sure enough, I was like able to get gas and keep going.
People it's you live in these cities and that massive infrastructure is just there.
Yep.
adam crigler
It is.
tim pool
They're standing on the shoulders of giants that they can't see.
adam crigler
Boom.
That's it.
You know, a lot of this, uh... See, what's the problem with Make America Great Again is I wasn't alive when it was supposedly great in what he was talking about back in, like, what was it, like, the 30s?
tim pool
Reagan era or something?
adam crigler
The 50s, the 60s.
Like, I was born in the 80s, you know?
This is the life I know, and this is a good life that we have.
You know, man, you know, I think it is.
tim pool
I think it's just have you actually had to work?
adam crigler
I mean, yeah, there was times where I had to buckle and work down, right?
I mean, have you gone through true hardship?
tim pool
Have you have you seen what it's like to not be able to survive?
Have you had a loved ones, you know, suffer and struggle?
unidentified
And yep, I had exactly many times.
tim pool
And a lot of these a lot of these people.
So we see this in the data.
These these progressive activists tend to be Uh, college-educated, making more than $100,000 a year.
Yeah, and they're mostly white.
So it's really funny that they embody exactly what they complain about, but that makes sense.
Think about it.
You're this super wealthy, privileged, not necessarily super wealthy, but you're an upper-class, privileged, young, white, you know, low-T, soy boy or whatever, and you're looking around at all these wonderful things you have, and then you hear these stories about how bad things are, and you're like, mm, I blame people like me.
And the assumption they make is that every other white person must be just like them.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Instead of realizing 20 million poor people, white, in this country.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
They assume it's, you know, everyone must be like me!
They must have the same experience as I do.
Of doing nothing.
For everything.
That's the other problem with college, too.
Is that, you know, one of the reasons I see them, they end up going to college, a lot of these people end up becoming permanent students.
Because they don't want to take any responsibility.
They're scared of it.
adam crigler
I know some people like that.
tim pool
Totally.
Yep.
adam crigler
I know people who are like... They're still in school.
They're my age.
And they went to school right out of high school.
And they're still in school.
tim pool
Don't gotta pay back those loans as long as you're in school.
And then you know what they do?
They vote for Bernie to forgive their, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans.
Yeah.
They took all this money, lived for free, refused to do any work, and that was it.
Now it's like, you pay for it.
I guess it's just, uh... I don't know what we do to solve that problem of them being spoiled.
lydia smith
Hard times.
tim pool
Hard times.
lydia smith
That's the only way.
tim pool
You know, Rahm Emanuel, when he got elected in Chicago, said something about mandatory basic training.
And I really do not like that idea at all.
For liberty reasons.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't like mandatory anything.
Yeah, don't force me to do anything, but...
tim pool
But I wonder if there is a better way to implement some kind of retreat or something you can do in school.
adam crigler
Oh, an ROTC class.
One semester.
You know, you're not in boot camp, but they're teaching the- I don't like high school mandatory either!
I don't know.
Make it a part of gym class.
I get what you're saying.
I don't want to be told how to live my life, but at the same time, if I structured my life better, I could probably get more things done than I do.
I could have a game podcast going.
People are asking me to do it, but I don't really structure my life in a way that I can just do that all the time.
tim pool
I don't think that's as much an issue, though, like you not doing it.
Yeah, I guess I'm just bringing my own into it, but... I'm saying, like, these are people who think they don't recognize the wealth and privilege they have.
And it's a funny thing, they like to say... Exactly, that's my point.
They like to say that, you know, to the privileged, equality looks like oppression.
And I'm like, have you looked in a mirror, good sir?
Because you're describing yourself, not me.
When you complain, you know, as part of their philosophy, they literally believe that a black woman who's a millionaire is oppressed and a white person who's sleeping on the street is an oppressor.
It's actually a part of, like, the arguments have been made.
And, you know, it's funny, because when I try talking to some of the more rational progressives, they're like, no one really thinks that.
I'm like, dude, do you even listen to the priests of your religion?
They say this stuff all the time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I get it.
There are progressives who don't, you know, entertain the silliness, but they ignore the rest of them that are actually pushing this stuff.
They have fringe ideas that make no sense.
And, you know, what's funny is, like, we talked about how as things get bad, they kind of disappear.
Yeah, well, they're starting to come back because things are getting better.
adam crigler
Things are getting better.
tim pool
We'll see how it plays out.
You're right.
How do you make people not spoiled anymore?
That's the big challenge.
I don't like that you have to go to high school.
I don't like that you have to go to school, period.
I think that's stupid.
I think a one-size-fits-all government mandate for institutionalization of human beings is insane.
adam crigler
You got a point.
tim pool
What do you do?
adam crigler
You got a good point.
tim pool
What do you do, man?
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, you know, Lydia was just like, hard times.
And it's like, right, the saying is hard times make strong men or something like that.
lydia smith
And I wasn't thinking of like a mandatory program.
I was thinking of the way we've been so privileged is going to cause hard times that we have no say in.
adam crigler
right so how do we how do we get get to the skip that you know like to skip like can we wake up before it's too late i don't know and we're all in hard times and we're realizing that america was really great i don't there's anything you can do you know i i've i've been around the world man i i the more i traveled The more I would come back proud to be an American.
tim pool
And I would remember coming up to the checkpoint after being in some really messed up place.
And then I remember one guy was looking through my passport, and I got a ton of crazy stuff, like Arabic and whatever.
And he's like, man, what is this?
What's this country?
And I was like, I think that's Morocco or Egypt or something.
And he was like, you travel a lot, what for?
And I was like, I'm a journalist.
And he goes, hmm, how is it?
And I'm like, man, I am so glad to be back in this country, dude.
These young people who complain about America all day and night, they really don't get it.
When you get locked in a camp in China and they take your organs away.
When they kick out you or your friends because of the color of their skin.
When you go to these countries where they're speeding down streets afraid to stop at streetlights because someone's going to jump out with an AK or something.
And it's like, man, I've been, I've, and I haven't even been to the worst places in the world.
You know, I haven't been to like Syria or anything.
I did have some people try to get me to go, but even I'm like, dude, I know how bad it gets.
And I know people who've gone to these places.
I mean, I was in Fukushima.
So that's probably one of the craziest places I've ever been.
And I saw the destroyed gravestones.
I'll tell you what, man.
I went there.
The gravestones shattered.
And this guy telling us, like, this was his family's grave, and it's been destroyed, and the earthquake destroyed it.
Going to this guy's house, the calendar left at the day of the earthquake and the tsunami.
The clocks all stopped at that time.
And you realize, like, everything this guy's family was, everything he ever had, everything he ever cherished and loved, wiped out in an instant.
And you can only come back and take a glimpse of it.
And I'll tell you what's even crazier, the guides we had that brought us in, one of them died of cancer.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
That's the radiation.
That's how some people are, what they're dealing with right now.
But in America, we got poverty, we got crime, we got bad stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But they really don't get how bad things could be.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, we saw this story the other day, rats are eating each other.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
You wanna see what humans are gonna do to each other when the food stops?
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
You wouldn't even believe it.
lydia smith
Nope, don't wanna know.
adam crigler
I don't.
tim pool
We don't wanna know, you're right.
But it's crazy, why is it that there's some people like us, we get it, and we're like, you know, we joke about how people fantasize about apocalypse, but they would never actually want it.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
But you have all these people who are like, America is an evil colonialist empire.
And then they go to a farm for a few days and they're like, I wanna go home.
adam crigler
I wanna go be spoiled in the city.
tim pool
Work is hard.
adam crigler
I have to make my own food?
Like, actually chop onions?
tim pool
What?
It reminds me of, like, the caricature of nobility in Europe.
They're like, you know, foofy, like, frail and weak, and like...
Have the maid do it.
it I wouldn't ever pick up that tool and then you have like peasants just doing hard work and like
chopping down trees it really does feel like these people are just snooty nobles yeah you know and as
I hate to call them that because it makes them sound better than they are yeah but they really
it's it's almost like I don't know what you'd call it an excess of society
They do nothing to benefit society.
They think they're smarter and better.
They're not making anything, but they think they're entitled to everything.
That's nightmarish.
lydia smith
This reminds me so much of the French Revolution.
And we know how that ended.
So I'm sure that's not gonna happen.
tim pool
No, it's the weirdo crazies who take over because they got nothing better to do.
And people who worked want to be left alone because they got work to do.
I don't know where this ends up, but I do know that we kind of went off on a fun wild ride.
unidentified
Oh wow.
tim pool
So why don't we, uh, we got a couple more segments.
adam crigler
Oh wow, that was a full hour.
tim pool
Totally.
I mean, good conversation though.
adam crigler
Yeah, it was good.
unidentified
Solid.
tim pool
So, uh, the next segment we have for you, video games are getting banned in China.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And I think this, you know, I'm going to be... Multiplayer games, specifically.
adam crigler
Right.
Not just, not just video games.
They don't, they don't really care about the video games, but...
tim pool
I'm just gonna go for it.
I think this is a dangerous precursor to war.
adam crigler
I don't know if I agree with you there.
tim pool
I'm not saying it will be for war, or that it'll lead to war, or that it's for war, but it's something that I think could contribute to dangerous escalation.
adam crigler
Actually, I think you're right, but a civil war.
This is them, yeah, because their citizens are getting pissed and are fed up with it.
I mean, we're seeing videos that are coming out and then these people get ghosted.
tim pool
We'll say that.
We're gonna jump over to the Super Chats right now and then we're gonna have this debate over... So China's actually, yeah, they're banning video games.
But if you haven't already, make sure you hit the like button, because it really does help the channel.
Subscribe if you want to get more videos like this, and hit the notification bell.
But also jump in the Super Chat if you haven't.
I have to admit, I don't think we're going to be able to read everyone's Super Chat, but we are going to read many of them.
And so, let's just go for it.
Not a bad- and I also want to mention that the Super Chats are actually an hour old at this point, so there's always a time delay.
adam crigler
But thank you, everybody.
tim pool
Totally.
Yeah, that seems to be what everyone thinks.
Just take away everyone's rights.
unidentified
Sure!
tim pool
But I will mention, because we were talking about this earlier today, If it came out from the government that the Chinese government exacerbated the problem, and then it came from a lab and it was confirmed, you'd probably see a bunch of people say like, yes sir, thank you sir, tell me what to do, we're in this together.
It's an accident, it's a pandemic, let's work together, it's not enough for people to rally.
It's like, you give them an enemy, they'll do it.
DarkRenji says, My 2018 taxes were filed, but I didn't receive my money.
Well, friends did.
Any ideas why?
It's coming in waves.
That's my understanding.
Your Trump bucks may come.
Just be patient.
JohnRisenGeneration says, I second what someone sent yesterday.
Watch Max Durat's video on MGS2, but also watch the Deus Ex one.
I'd love to see a podcast discussion about it.
That was cool.
We'll check it out.
You want to take a note?
Yep, taking a note.
Redbeard says, do you think the doomsday clock will get moved up?
I'm reminded of the quote from Watchmen, when Dr. Manhattan is asked about the doomsday clock being moved to five minutes from midnight.
And he says something funny like, a fictional clock being changed is no more soothing than a drowning man seeing a picture of oxygen or something.
I can't remember exactly what the quote was, but it's really well done.
And it's like, the Doomsday Clock was made up by someone because of their opinion, and moving it is someone else's opinion.
It means literally nothing to anyone.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I write Tim and Adam fanfic.
Ooh, here we go.
What's this?
unidentified
Oh, geez.
tim pool
Creepy Joe Biden grinned as Adam and Tim were bound and gagged.
No, no, no!
He prepared to harvest their ballots when suddenly Trump pounced, striking down the violator with his katana and saving their purity.
And Trump was wearing a fedora and a duster.
adam crigler
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Ruslan says China must be punished for this.
And I wonder how.
You know, how.
adam crigler
Right, how.
tim pool
Spice says, do you think we can say Voldemort yet?
Also, I really appreciate your content.
For those that aren't familiar, Voldemort is the name of a CIA agent.
I'm not allowed to say his name.
So no, we can't say his name.
unidentified
Yeah, no.
tim pool
Cordomalti says, Tim Pool, more like Tim Cool.
Am I right?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know it.
tim pool
Am I right?
adam crigler
Nice.
I felt like someone had to do that.
Yeah.
tim pool
Graf von Tirol says, I just realized the same WHO director named Robert Mugabe as Goodwill
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
Ambassador in 2017, and Nancy Pelosi takes his organization's side?
Sheesh.
It's almost like their opinions aren't real.
When they're like, World Health Organization is good.
What are you talking about?
Nobody agrees.
adam crigler
I just see a bunch of robots.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Totally.
Nancy Pelosi is a robot to me.
She is programmed.
tim pool
What if China was secretly building androids?
adam crigler
Maybe.
tim pool
And they've been deployed.
And they're all robots!
I'm kidding.
unidentified
Alright, let's see what we got here.
tim pool
Ceylon Blue says, China bans online gaming with foreigners after Animal Crossing was used to promote Hong Kong.
That's what we'll be talking about next.
Captain Sugar says, there's a difference between knowing and being absolutely sure.
Guy Sensei.
Lee Van Cleef says, Tim, Adam, Lydia, do any of you believe that you have the qualifications to exercise free will, your values, ideas, even your personality?
Are they yours or just a product of the mindless masses?
I absolutely have free will.
Me too.
The idea I've brought up before about this is that You know, it's the it was a simulation theory I mentioned where we're either you could be in a single player game where you are the only free will actor, right?
You could be in an MMO where there are some free will and some not.
And then you can be in you know, just like the world is normal.
Everyone's got free will and you know, it's hard to you'll never know because you can't experience someone else's consciousness.
adam crigler
That's true.
I just watched a documentary about that.
tim pool
But I can tell you that I do find the debate fascinating, determinism versus free will,
that everything about you is predetermined based upon what happened before.
If that's true, we should be able to see the future very easily.
With enough computational power, we should be able to actually map out every possible variable in how the universe forms.
So we're not there yet.
I'd imagine it would take a ridiculous and insane amount of energy to actually compute something like that.
But I'm not entirely convinced.
I think that there is something unique and divine within all of us that allows us some kind of... You know, we control.
We do.
I believe in free will.
adam crigler
Yep, I agree.
But I think it's... I could put this beanie on with my free will, or I can choose to not put it on and leave it right there.
tim pool
You could do something... It's up to me.
You could do something totally, totally ridiculous.
Now here's the thing.
If you put that beanie on, people might say, well, it's because you were self-conscious.
You took it off, same thing.
But what if you cut it up into a million pieces?
adam crigler
They'd be like, the beanie!
tim pool
You could do something right now that would make no sense, and that's why I'm more inclined to believe in free will.
adam crigler
Yeah, I could pick the earth up and just throw it against the wall.
I mean, it wouldn't make sense.
tim pool
You wouldn't do it because it's a net negative and doesn't do anything for you, but you could.
adam crigler
I could.
tim pool
And that's why I believe in free will.
Because I could absolutely just flip this table over and storm out and never do another show again.
adam crigler
I don't know.
It's a pretty heavy table.
tim pool
Well, I could, you know, knock it over.
lydia smith
You could cause trouble.
tim pool
I'm confident.
I could cause trouble.
You can cause trouble, yeah.
adam crigler
Wait for after the show.
tim pool
I've made this point to people where it's like, you could choose to do something that makes no sense and is completely out of character.
Like, literally no sense.
And sure, you can still argue it's a product of who you are and how you're developed, but, you know, I mostly like the idea of free speech.
Haru Glory says, You're so sexy, Tim.
I appreciate it, but it's Y-O-U-R-E with an apostrophe.
Yeah, the wrong you're.
adam crigler
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Pickle for... It's the internet.
We're always going to point out your bad grammar.
lydia smith
You have to correct that.
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
Pickle for Sanity says, So I have a question that always gets some good conversation.
When wiping, sit or stand?
And for TP, fold or wrap and why?
We're going to skip that question, but for those of you in the comments, feel free to have some fun.
adam crigler
You know, perhaps... Go ahead, what were you going to say?
tim pool
I was going to say, perhaps in the context of Amber Heard, this question would make more sense, sitting or standing.
adam crigler
There's this YouTube show called 100 Humans, and they actually make them do random things, and one of them was to show us how you poop.
Like, show us what you do.
You know, just to see, like, how many people do the over or under, you know, when they put the thing on there.
Like, wipe front to back, back to front.
It's like, it's kind of hilarious.
And I'm not going to answer this question, but go watch that show because it's pretty funny.
tim pool
I'm not interested in talking about my personal life.
I am interested in talking about Amber Heard, though.
adam crigler
I don't want to talk about her anymore.
tim pool
When she was standing on top of Johnny Depp's bed.
lydia smith
Squatting.
adam crigler
With witnesses.
tim pool
Did she have to sit down?
adam crigler
With witnesses.
That's what blows me away.
tim pool
Plural.
adam crigler
Alright, that's enough.
lydia smith
Let's go.
tim pool
El Santiago says, Hey Tim, are you a fan of Gundam Wing?
I want to donate the poster I made.
I do freelance illustration as my side hustle.
No anime or comic convention happening soon, so business is kind of slow to me.
I've never been a very big Gundam Wing fan, though I know what it is.
Funny enough, Google once banned Gundam Wing because Gun was in the name.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
adam crigler
Are you kidding me?
tim pool
I kid you not.
adam crigler
Have you seen Ready Player One?
Yeah.
You know when he pulls the big huge Gundam suit?
And he turns into the massive Gundam.
tim pool
I barely remember.
adam crigler
It's an amazing scene.
tim pool
You know, I'm not a big fan of the giant robot anime stuff.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, I get it.
You know, whatever.
Nah.
I like the more martial arts anime stuff.
Yu Yu Hakusho, Naruto, Dragon Ball Z. Well, what about Power Rangers?
adam crigler
That's like the perfect mashup of both.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Power Rangers.
adam crigler
Hey, I was actually, I think I'm like nine years old, and I watched Power Rangers as a kid.
I think I watched some of it, but I never really... It's a jump around the couch, jump off, high kick.
tim pool
Remember Beetleborgs?
adam crigler
Yeah.
No, what are they?
I do.
tim pool
What is it?
It was the weirdest show.
These little kids, like a comic book came to life or something, and then they got Beetleborg power as the weirdest thing.
I don't know, it didn't make sense, but it was kind of like Power Rangers.
on their VR troopers.
They kept trying to make a bunch of knockoffs of Power Rangers.
But then Power Rangers kept like, Power Rangers Neon, Power Rangers Ninjas or whatever.
adam crigler
I never watched any of those.
I watched the OG one.
tim pool
The OG one?
OG, yeah.
adam crigler
With Bulk and Skull?
tim pool
Yeah.
I think they're going to be making a new Power Rangers movie.
Did you see that short film with, what's her name?
Who's in it?
I forget her name.
She was Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica.
adam crigler
I need a little bit more.
There's a new show that she's on?
Another Life?
tim pool
They did a short film.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Where it was like the Power Rangers but in the future.
And it's like super gritty and really dark.
adam crigler
Oh, cool.
It was really good.
lydia smith
Hera of Thrace.
adam crigler
Sounds better.
No.
lydia smith
That's what they were calling Starbuck, but I don't know.
Some other chick.
adam crigler
Did you watch Battlestar Galactica?
tim pool
The new one?
adam crigler
The new one, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It was good.
unidentified
Amazing.
adam crigler
I watched it, too.
tim pool
Oh, dude, I binged the whole thing.
It was an amazing show.
adam crigler
Really good show.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
The Chef says, Tim, Hoaxed was wonderful.
10 out of 10.
It was great seeing you in it.
I had a good time being in it.
And there were some people in it I disagree with.
There were some people in it I agreed with.
But for the most part, I provided my opinion and commentary to someone who asked for it.
lydia smith
Perfect.
tim pool
And of course, Amazon purged it.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Amazing.
I don't know anything about that.
says, can you talk about WWE firing numerous wrestlers after being declared essential?
Also Vince McMahon lying about WWE having a stake in the XFL.
I don't know anything about that.
adam crigler
I don't know anything about that either.
tim pool
I do know that Donald Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame and he's our president.
lydia smith
Crossover.
Love it.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
That's cool.
tim pool
LaSalle Rhymes says, Happy hump day guys, you know it.
Alex Bucci says, Love you guys, have some money.
Oh, we will, thank you.
Thank you.
Dave Inspiration says, Did Epstein neck bones break a week before he died?
He was found unconscious on the first attempt.
Whether he did it or not, I don't know.
No idea.
Sion says, Good day guys, hope you're good.
Greetings from Australia, land of the crazy.
You are quickly becoming a part of my morning routine.
Keep up the good work.
adam crigler
Morning!
tim pool
Morning routine.
lydia smith
Good morning to you.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's tonight for us.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's great.
tim pool
Dark Fox says, Minnesota's protest is tomorrow at noon.
From the Capitol to the governor's mansion.
Yeah, there's a ton of protests happening.
lydia smith
Yes, there are.
tim pool
This is what I tell people, it's like a Chinese finger trap.
The government thinks, I know we'll lock everything down with harsh draconian laws, that'll stop
it, and then makes everything worse.
adam crigler
Right.
People are like, you can't do that to us, we're coming out.
tim pool
Yep, and South Dakota won't do it.
The governor keeps saying, I'm not going to lock down, I'm not going to do it.
And they're being dragged, the governor is being attacked by people.
adam crigler
But probably not South Dakotans.
tim pool
No, definitely not.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Maybe some.
adam crigler
They're states.
tim pool
Here's the thing, if you get a problem with no lockdown, you can stay home.
Right.
You don't have to tell other people to do.
One says, if you don't like us and think we are terrible, share us anyway and annoy your friends.
That's a really good point you made.
If you think we are awful, then share us to annoy your friends.
adam crigler
Tell them to come and tell us how awful we are.
lydia smith
Yeah, we can handle it.
tim pool
Church FDC says, hey Tim, I emailed you about the animated video you talked about last week.
I just wanted to make sure you knew.
Animated video, which one?
lydia smith
Was that the guy who was talking to you about animating for you?
unidentified
No.
No?
tim pool
No, no, no.
He said I mentioned an animated video.
I can't remember.
lydia smith
Oh, I don't know.
tim pool
Fearless Soldier says, Adam, wondering if you got my tweets about Tony Hawk doing All In Challenge 1, how Pix11 was reporting about 12-day-old info to smear the press, and I asked if you are playing Warzone.
adam crigler
I'm not sure if I caught that one, but I'll dig through my tweets, see if I can.
But I don't know anything about that, so... Okay.
tim pool
I'm really digging into it, you know?
When Soy Jesus shaves his face, it makes him look like both the child and the adult.
adam crigler
Okay. I'm really digging into it, you know, trying to get into character.
tim pool
No. Justin says, what would a war with China look like?
A lot of power plants would probably explode because we have these really old industrial
facilities that are extremely weak to cyber attacks. Okay.
Now, we may have gone and secured them over the past couple of years.
adam crigler
Yeah, retrofitted them.
tim pool
Right, but really old, really basic technology controlling a lot of these things, easily exploitable.
It's one of the disadvantages to inventing things.
So these other countries, when they finally get around to implementing, say, like cellular technology.
This actually happened in a lot of countries.
We invent cell phones, and then by the time another country starts developing their infrastructure, the technology's already advanced.
So their initial infrastructure is better than ours.
So we still operate on really old infrastructure that needs to be updated.
A lot of countries don't.
It's why there's two different standards.
It's mostly merging.
There's like the CDMA and the GSM standard.
So the US still has networks that use something called CDMA.
I think for the most part it's phased out.
Like we're all doing now with like 5G and LTE stuff.
It's all synchronizing under the GSM.
But this was a direct result of us finding like a decent technology.
It did really well.
But then other countries got the update and didn't need it.
So.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Kevin Kevin says, shout out to my brother Keith.
He looked like Soy Jesus.
Amazing.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Fearless Soldier says, all in challenge.
Not all, uh, all in challenge one.
All in challenge.
What is it?
I don't know what that is.
adam crigler
Yeah, the all in challenge.
I feel like I've seen other people posting about this.
tim pool
Tony Hawk is on Vans now.
adam crigler
I saw that.
tim pool
That's crazy.
adam crigler
I don't think it's that crazy.
tim pool
I kind of do.
What was he on before?
I don't even know what shoe he was riding for before.
adam crigler
I remember seeing videos of him as a young kid wearing Vans.
tim pool
Yeah, he's the skateboarder.
adam crigler
Vans are what I've been wearing for a long time.
I actually recently just got Etnies because they make vegan skate shoes and they're pretty great.
I'm pretty happy with them.
Impressive.
tim pool
John says, PSA, please everyone, let your friends and family know, do not wait to go to the ER for emergencies.
People have waited out of fear with stroke and other time-critical emergencies.
That's very good advice.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
Amansal says, Trump just threatened to suspend Congress.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Did he really?
unidentified
Is that?
tim pool
Can you Google that?
lydia smith
He threatened to suspend both houses, I believe.
Hold on.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Yeah, he did.
adam crigler
Are you serious?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Just now?
This just happened?
lydia smith
Yeah, just during the time we've been in the show, I think.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
If Donald Trump tries to suspend Congress, I will grab a picket sign and I will be marching down to DC.
lydia smith
He threatened to adjourn both chambers of Congress.
tim pool
What does that mean?
lydia smith
I don't know.
adam crigler
Like go home for the day?
lydia smith
Pause it for a while.
I don't like that either.
tim pool
No, you can't do that.
lydia smith
Put a pause on it for a minute.
adam crigler
Can't they just be like, nope.
tim pool
Yeah, there's no one branch stronger than the other.
I would not stand for that in any capacity.
adam crigler
That doesn't make any sense.
But we gotta definitely look into that.
That's crazy.
tim pool
For sure.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's interesting.
tim pool
Adjourn them?
unidentified
Nuh-uh.
adam crigler
A sneak peek into tomorrow's show.
tim pool
Let them prove all of the crazy Trump derangement syndrome people right by pulling that off.
Because I'll be standing next to them screaming like, you can't do that, bro.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's nuts.
tim pool
I can sit here and talk about all these governors violating the Constitution.
I have no problem pointing the finger at Trump when he tries pulling that off too.
lydia smith
The National Constitution Center noted that, quote, no president has ever exercised that authority.
tim pool
It was the stupidest thing he could have said.
lydia smith
Yeah, why would you say that?
tim pool
Because he wants the TDS people to have ammunition against them.
But you know what?
If he proves them right, he proves them right.
There you go.
That's on him.
He can say it, whatever.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, man.
adam crigler
Thanks for letting us know.
tim pool
Dude, the meltdown of what's happening in this country is starting to freak me out.
And I'm not specifically referring to Trump.
But when he said, you know, I have total authority or whatever, it's like, oh, shut up, dude.
You know you don't.
Whatever, man.
All these governors are doing all this crazy stuff.
The last thing we need is the president to jump on board, too.
It's like, everybody needs to chill out.
I don't care who you are, man.
You start taking a dump on the Constitution, you're gonna hear me yell about it.
Well, we'll look into that one, because I assure you, I'm going to read that and I'm going to start screeching into my microphone.
You'll see me getting triggered.
Let's see.
Sir, I can't read your name, says China going to pay what they owe.
Nathan Rainer says Virginia governor pushed through gun control bill during lockdown.
You see, this is what I'm talking about.
Same thing.
Same thing.
All of these people are just so awful.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
I mean, have you tried turning it off and on again?
it take for MSM to get back to its roots and begin to actually report facts and ask legitimate
questions again?
Ugh.
I mean, have you tried turning it off and on again?
Like let them all go bankrupt and then build from the ground up?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Well it's like when the air traffic controllers threatened to strike and President Reagan
was like, you're fired.
Bye.
And he started from scratch.
tim pool
You know one of my favorite memes is V for V for Vendetta and he's got a headset with a microphone on and it says, your government is doing what?
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
lydia smith
I'm like, yes.
I mean, yeah.
tim pool
It's so weird that these memes back in like 2011 and 2012 were very much just libertarian.
It didn't matter if you were left or right, it was like you were anti-establishment, you believed in freedom and liberty.
But now many of these activists have joined the authoritarian wing.
It's like, I don't, it's, they're probably cheering for like these lockdowns.
They are, they're defending them.
It's nuts.
Jason Allen says, with news coming out about the virus coming from a lab in Wuhan, what do you think Trump's public reaction will be?
I think so far they've said, well, we're looking at it, we don't know for sure.
And I think the reason they're saying it is because if they came out and said, yup, then the public would demand a reaction.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
A response of some sort.
So.
Let's see.
Josh Clark says, China tries to prove it's better than the U.S., fails so hard it starts a worldwide pandemic.
That's what the news is reporting right now.
White Knight says Dan Crenshaw deserves an apology.
Apology for what?
I mean, Dan's cool.
He's been ragged on for a lot of things.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Ah, the beanie's back.
tim pool
Timothy E. says, I don't think U.S.
beats China in a war.
We have ridiculous rules of engagement, they don't care.
Same reason Vietnam and Middle East wars were so bad.
I've heard that.
I also think that as the U.S.
gets more and more desperate, you'll see people not caring about any rules.
Like, the fact that we have rules of engagement are due to the fact that we're wealthy and privileged.
adam crigler
Yep, that's true.
tim pool
But when we're actually under threat, someone's gonna sit back and be like, the rules be damned, and he's gonna press the button.
There we go.
And the world doesn't exist anymore.
I'm not convinced there will be.
But if escalation gets worse, then don't be surprised if it does.
I have not heard that.
I'm not convinced there will be.
But if escalation gets worse, then don't be surprised if it does.
Jeb Reid says YouTube is getting investigated currently by the FBI.
I have not heard that.
Wow.
adam crigler
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Travis Potter says, do you guys believe these lockdowns, which some violate the Constitution,
are acceptable?
What do you think is the best form of protest against them while trying to stay safe?
You know, I don't believe in them.
I think they've gone nuts.
And I like the idea of what a lot of these conservatives did with their cars.
They kept their doors and windows up, and they just formed a traffic jam and started honking like crazy.
And I'm like, that's actually impressive.
You know why?
adam crigler
They're still in quarantine, and they're protesting.
tim pool
One person in a car takes up way more space than one person on the street.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
So you actually see this massive traffic jam, and it's like, that's not even that many people, and that's a huge impact.
You get 50 people in the middle of an intersection, and they get rounded up and arrested right away.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You get 50 people in cars, and those cars are jammed everywhere.
They can't get those cars out, man.
adam crigler
That's a really good point.
tim pool
I'm not advocating for it.
I'm just saying that's what they've been doing.
lydia smith
It's an idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see.
The Hylian says, This was just viral marketing for the Resident Evil 3 remake.
They did a great job.
Got everyone on lockdown.
The video game industry says, you know, coming up.
Excellent.
Alex V says, What would be more embarrassing for the far left?
AOC losing or AOC becoming mainstream to keep her seat?
The second one.
Which she's doing.
She's going to, like, endorse Joe Biden or something.
lydia smith
She kind of halfway did.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
WolfSpain says, I don't remember if you mentioned this in an earlier segment, but China has been pushing blame to minorities for spreading the virus.
And where is the left to call this out?
Hypocrisy at its worst.
adam crigler
I know!
tim pool
How is it that I've come out with multiple videos complaining about this?
adam crigler
How is no one talking about this?
Where are the social justice warriors when there's literally social justice stuff happening?
And it's like, crickets.
All I hear is crickets.
tim pool
Maybe it's because they're Chinese trolls.
adam crigler
Maybe.
tim pool
China!
lydia smith
Is this like Russian bots 2.0?
tim pool
Well, maybe the people claiming the Russian bots were actually Chinese people claiming that Americans were Russians.
adam crigler
Oh gosh.
tim pool
Oh man.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
unidentified
China!
adam crigler
We go deeper into the hole.
lydia smith
Oh man.
tim pool
Yeah.
Rye says, Tim, the channel called Epoch Times recently has shown on my ads.
Do you know if they're reliable?
How do you check your sources?
So I use a third-party service called NewsGuard.
They're a group of journalists that rate news agencies.
I think they're very biased, but I don't think they're the absolute worst.
Now, they give Epoch Times, I think, a bad rating, because Epoch Times is very, very biased against China, and I think they're moderately pro-Trump, only in the sense that Trump is anti-China.
I don't have an issue with biased reporting, as long as you know what that bias is.
It doesn't mean the facts they're giving you are, like, made up.
It means they're selectively showing you information, which is fine, because it's not like you go to them for all of your news.
lydia smith
It kind of frustrates me when people say, this is from CNN, I will never listen to anything they say.
I'm like, okay, they have an opinion, you know what their opinion is, they can still present the news.
And they do.
tim pool
Yeah, I would say if it's on CNN's TV channel, ignore it.
If it's on their website, take it with a grain of salt, but the website's very, very different.
Very different.
The same is true for Fox News.
The website is, the Fox News website is really good.
Really, really good.
And they even have opinion writers who are very lefty.
The TV channels are- I'm sorry, the TV channel, actually through the daytime, is pretty good.
It's the nightly hosts that are very bombastic.
Except for, I mean, Tucker is too.
And you know, it's like I roll my eyes when he calls Brian Seltzer a eunuch, and he does.
Things like that, and I'm like, Tucker doesn't need to do that.
You know, he's got a great show, he brings on good guests, but yeah, that's what people do, and people like it.
Yeah.
Yes, let's see.
Robert Goldie says, hi Tim, do you think there is a possibility that people will backlash against the Democrats for wasting money investigating Trump that could have been used in this pandemic?
I'd like to think that, but you know, I'll tell you what, people have drawn their lines.
Most people are like, I'm on this side or this side.
And it's getting to the point where I'm seeing people that, you know, on the left, praising the World Health Organization.
And I'm like, you're insane.
I'm sorry, man.
You're insane.
adam crigler
I was defending them just because.
tim pool
I'm sorry, the Associated Press has come out and said that China was withholding information.
The World Health Organization fed us BS.
If you're defending them, it's because you're pretending to be partisan.
That's all you care about.
adam crigler
Well, not necessarily that.
It could just be because they, not that they're pretending or anything, they believe it because it's the World Health Organization.
That title alone... No, no, no.
tim pool
The AP.
adam crigler
No, I mean, I'm seeing friends of mine that are posting like, God, I can't believe that Trump is, you know, suspending the World Health Organization.
And I'm just like, do you know what they've done?
tim pool
But I'm not talking about the layman.
I'm saying that there are political people, commentators like me, who are defending the Who, and I'm like, how did you miss the Associated Press reporting on this unless you don't actually read the news?
adam crigler
Or you're being paid to ignore it.
I mean, that's a stretch, I know.
tim pool
I would say framing, but you're right.
They make more money when they ignore it.
They will make more money saying, Trump is wrong, we must protect the Who.
It's like, dude, listen, if Donald Trump tries to make some kind of move to adjourn or suspend Congress or do something like that, I'll screech the top of my lungs about it.
I don't care.
When I make content, it's because of something I believe in.
When I see someone come out and say the World Health Organization must be protected, I'm like, but did you read the AP's story about this?
Like, I'm sorry, man, that I can't believe.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
It's like there's no principles.
It's just, I'm on this side and we're the side that's not Trump.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, I don't care about that.
I think Trump has got good and bad things going for him.
That's a ridiculous thing.
It's not a policy position to like or hate Trump.
I'll put it that way.
That makes no sense.
adam crigler
I agree with you.
Completely.
tim pool
It's like you can like the guy, you can hate the guy.
I met a guy at an airport.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't like everything he does.
Not at all.
tim pool
I was at an airport, and the woman who was serving drinks was a Bernie supporter.
The guy on my left was a Trump supporter.
The news was on, I asked the woman, I was like, would you mind putting on CNN?
I was like, I know it's probably going to make everybody angry.
I don't remember what was on the TV, but it was stupid.
And she put it on and they were talking and then this started a conversation.
She said she was in favor of Bernie, mentioned a few policies.
The guy on my left goes, nah, nah, nah, Trump all the way.
And I was like, really?
I was like, what about him?
Don't you take issue with his attitude and the way he talks about things?
And the guy laughed and he was like, does that mean he's bad at being a president because he's a bad person?
I'm like, no, I get the point.
Like, totally, you're right.
I'm just wondering how you feel about it.
And he goes, oh God, the guy's a lowlife.
I wouldn't invite him to my house for dinner.
I'm gonna vote for him in 2020.
He started laughing and I laughed.
And the woman behind the counter, the Bernie supporter, started laughing too.
And she was like, I would never vote for that man.
But you're right.
He's a bad guy.
And the guy was like, yeah, I think he's terrible.
He was right on the economy, the money's good, he's working right for this country.
But I wouldn't let him in my house for dinner.
And I started laughing.
But you know, I've heard that from a lot of people.
I was in an Uber.
This was when I got invited to Glenn Beck's show in Texas.
I was in an Uber on the way to the studio, and the guy asked, like, so what are you in town for?
And I was like, oh, it's Glenn Beck's show, we're gonna talk, it's a podcast.
And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, Glenn Becker, you know, blah, blah, blah, and started talking about politics.
And then I asked him, I was like, so what about you?
This is a Latino guy in Texas.
And I was like, you're going to vote for Trump or, you know, I can't remember who else was running.
And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
He's like, I just wish you wouldn't tweet so much.
I wish you kind of just, you know, shut his mouth.
But, you know, the economy has been really good and I think he's good for this country.
But, you know, he's got attitude.
And I started laughing.
I'm like, I hear that a lot.
I really do.
And I don't think these these these activists realize it, that we get it, man.
We get the orange man is bad.
Right.
But there are a lot of people who are like, that doesn't change the fact that he's a businessman who's going to bring the jobs back and fulfill these things he's been talking about.
adam crigler
Which it seems like that's going to happen.
Yeah, it's almost pandemic is forcing the world totally America's hand.
tim pool
The craziest thing about Trump is that I think a lot of was I going to say something like people don't realize that.
I lost my train of thought on this one, but I think I basically gave the gist of it already.
That the attitude of Trump means absolutely nothing to the regular people.
These activists are asking us to make a vote based on emotion.
adam crigler
Yeah, don't do that.
tim pool
Well, did you see the story earlier about the woman who tore the Trump flag down, the man and the woman, the doctors?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
They brought their kids with them.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, and the one kid was begging them, please, you're gonna go to jail, don't do this, and they were like, be quiet.
And then they got a ladder and they go up and they steal the flag, and they got arrested for it.
lydia smith
Yeah, no kidding.
tim pool
These people are coming out and saying, don't vote for Trump, and you're like, why?
And they're just telling you because they emotionally react negatively to him.
They don't realize that everyone understands those feelings and still doesn't care.
That there's other things they find to be more important.
adam crigler
That's crazy, man.
You're nailing it.
tim pool
But that's why they're running Joe Biden.
Because it doesn't matter who runs.
These people have a weird emotional blockage in their brain.
Where the only thing they're thinking is, I hate Trump.
They want to get him.
They want that symbol to be knocked down.
But that's not how you win, man.
I always try and warn my friends who are skating and get angry.
They'll get angry and they'll start kicking their board around and I'm like, you realize this is blocking you from succeeding, right?
You've lost your focus.
You're enraged.
It is a trope in martial arts movies.
Get your opponent angry so he loses focus and swings wildly.
You gotta calm down.
You will not win if you are freaking out.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
But they'll freak out anyway.
adam crigler
Like today I, I was, I thought to myself, I took a deep breath and then I landed it.
tim pool
Oh, the skating, you were skating.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
Adam did.
It was, you, you went, it's a, it's all, I think you would, I guess you'd call it fakie.
Fakie body varial blunt rock revert.
adam crigler
Fakie body varial rock to stall revert.
I did so many different versions of it, but.
tim pool
You basically did a pretty, pretty beast trick.
adam crigler
But I smacked, I fell a lot.
Trying to get to it, though.
tim pool
But you weren't angry.
You were stoked the whole time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Because I was getting closer and closer.
But if I had gotten angry, there's no way I would have landed that.
tim pool
Contrast that with, like, the reaction of a Trump supporter.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Who will see something and, like, Trump will turn the insult into a joke and they'll laugh about it.
And then they'll keep doing their thing.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Versus the people who get triggered, who get so frustrated and flustered they can't see straight.
adam crigler
And that becomes their entire everything.
tim pool
Don't you have anything better to do with your life?
Don't you?
like wow dude you have hurt yourself right it's like it's like you've hurt
unidentified
yourself in confusion don't you have anything don't you have anything better
adam crigler
to do with your life don't you it's it's it's a come on I read the definition of
tim pool
Trump derangement syndrome mm-hmm it originated in the Bush era for Bush
derangement syndrome and it was Charles Krauthammer I think is that
Am I saying his name right?
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Krauthammer.
tim pool
And he said it's the onset of extreme emotional distress and paranoia in seemingly normal people over specifically the existence of an individual.
I don't get what it is, man.
It's like, these people can't think rationally.
They see Obama and they cry, hope and change, it means nothing.
They see Donald Trump and they cry and scream, orange man.
It's like there's no substance behind what they're saying or doing.
adam crigler
Exactly.
And then, so, you end up, like, there's a lot of people... And no rational, like, reasoning for them to even, like, well, what about it?
Well, he said terrible things.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
Okay, what else?
You know?
tim pool
Does that affect me?
adam crigler
It's like, well, what about his policies that you don't like?
I don't care.
He's just a bad person.
But what about his policies that, you know... Dude, they... I mean, these interviews are always cherry-picked, you know, so it's hard to really, like, use them as an example.
tim pool
There are people who have made a career out of doing, like, gotcha man-in-the-street interviews.
You go to a university, you grab a stack of, you know, Bernie Sanders proposals and Donald Trump proposals, and you invert the name, like clockwork.
You walk up to a college student and take a Trump quote and says, Donald Trump says that China is really dangerous and it's about time we bring our factories back and fight for the working class.
And they're going to be like, that sounds like Bernie.
I'm going to vote for him.
You're like, well, that was Donald Trump.
Bernie Sanders actually said China is a great partner.
That's what people do all the time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You've seen him.
I haven't seen that yet.
adam crigler
Again, cherry-picked.
If they get enough people, they can make it seem however they want.
tim pool
This one isn't about cherry-picking.
Cherry-picking videos are more like they try to make you look stupid.
True.
So they'll go to someone and say, name a policy of Bernie you like, and they'll show only the dumb ones.
But you can go to any person.
Smart and be like, if I told you this, would you agree?
And then they'll be like, oh, that sounds pretty good.
And then it turns out it's a Hitler quote or something.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Because I guess you could say you could cherry pick certain quotes that you know are popular.
adam crigler
That's all I'm saying.
Right.
tim pool
It's easy to pull off.
But I think it's fair to say that you could do it.
You could do something like, is this Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump?
And read a quote from Bernie in, you know, 2008, where he's like, we need this border barrier.
Illegal immigration is hurting, you know, jobs in this country.
And people are gonna think it's Trump.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And it's like, actually, that was Bernie.
You know, that was Hillary.
That was Biden.
All right, so let's do this.
I'm going to go through these Super Chats much more quickly now, because we do have this video game segment we got to get to.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Totally.
Let's see.
Baltazar says, Bill Gates says vaccines cause damage.
Dr. Fauci is on the leadership council for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Dr. Burtz's daughter is the deputy director there also.
Bill Gates is the WHO's second biggest donor, too.
I don't know anything about the Bill Gates stuff, but I do think people are overreacting.
Mr. Paul R says, got some extra Trump bucks today.
Agree highly with Tim Poole, only Wuhan theory was following this in January.
Enjoy all that you do.
Call the CCP virus wordy doored.
adam crigler
Boom, CCP virus.
tim pool
I like Wuhan virus because it's the name of the city, it's the standard by which we name things, and it recognizes the Chinese government.
Alright, Steven says, F YouTube Tim, keep doing the real news.
You are more of a journalist than that Reza Aslan ever was.
Jason Pratt says, look into how Western scientists engineered the H5N1 virus in 2010 to be more transmissible to study its effects.
I think the Chinese did the same thing.
Interesting.
Chet Chisholm says, look into the Chinese scientist Jianguo Qiu.
She was being investigated by the RCMP for a policy breach while working at a microbiology lab in Winnipeg.
She was working at a level 4 lab in China before.
Student of History says, before I was wondering if I was being too harsh by entirely blaming China for this complete S show.
Now I have no doubt in my mind that I was right.
In the media, social media, who?
Every one of them.
Sean Hanner, thanks for the super chat.
Duane, also thanks for the super chat.
Scott says, please investigate drop in recorded flu deaths lately, as we are told COVID-related deaths are increasing.
I saw data from this and I did not see it.
There was a chart that was going viral showing the current flu season, and it was like a normal wave compared to other years, and coronavirus is a major spike.
So I've heard these things, but I haven't seen it.
And so it's like, if I can't, I need data.
RMB says, shut up and take my money.
I will.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Patrick says, thank you for your continued reporting, even in these hard times.
Oh, no problem.
I mean, what else would I do?
It's technically an essential function.
We are.
Yeah, the media is considered essential.
We could walk around and they can't do anything.
We're essential.
I mean, yeah, so no, but literally if we, if we got like press cards for the show, media is considered essential.
We could walk around and like, what are you doing?
It's like, we're doing a show, you know, it's, it's press and it's like, all right, there you go.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Shrek says, Sitting outside enjoying margaritas from the local Mexican food.
Thanks for delivery.
And relaxed laws on alcohol delivery here in Texas.
And very little restrictions so far, but not too bad here either.
Sounds fun.
adam crigler
Texas, man.
I like that place.
Interesting.
tim pool
I cannot read these symbols, which I believe are Chinese, but they say,
Soy Jesus is right.
An intentional bioweapon release would involve simultaneous release in multiple major American cities.
Intelligent person would pick a stable one.
Low mutation rate, so already developed vaccine will work.
Interesting.
Ryan says, the West has grown weak.
What better time to attack us?
Some would say.
F. Garrett says, listen to y'all every day at work.
How close do you think China is to revolting to their government?
Their economy is going to take a huge hit from companies pulling out.
It looks bad for them.
adam crigler
I think we're really close.
And our next article, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so the next thing we're going to do is going to dive into this.
Adam thinks it could be internal collapse.
Someone mentioned the other day that there already is strife in the party.
adam crigler
I think so.
tim pool
Between Xi Jinping and this other guy.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
Someone said the other day, like, I got my Trump bucks, here's ten bucks.
have the money to donate, ironically enough given that you know economy, keep doing what you do,
you provide a very valuable service. I appreciate it. And I'm glad to see that many of the Trump
bucks are coming my way. Yes, yes. More. Someone said the other day, like, I got my Trump bucks,
here's 10 bucks. And I'm like, yes, Trump, Trump. He put his name on them, they got all mad.
Joseph Flynn says as soon as he left his Jesus hair, let his Jesus hair out,
he starts talking MAGA coincidence. I quickly shoved it back in.
Student of history says soy Jesus and the beanie bro going full MAGA for about 10 minutes.
unidentified
This timeline is weird. We did go on a rant, didn't we?
adam crigler
But it's... I regret nothing.
tim pool
It's not fair to us that what the left used to be agreed with Trump on so many of these issues.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Like, you can't expect me to change my opinion overnight because you wanted to adopt these weird social media activist things.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
We stayed in the very center.
No, no, no, we're... Yeah, we're left.
We're left of the center line.
tim pool
We used to be.
adam crigler
Well, yeah, we used to be considered left of the center line, but now with everyone way over there, everything's to the right.
tim pool
They jumped off the cliff.
adam crigler
They're just falling away.
tim pool
And as they fall away, they're like, you're far right.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's like, well, we're actually up here not falling.
Yeah.
Adventurer says a chicken plant near me once was to be shut down.
After discovering they were employing undocumented workers who may have or had tested positive for COVID, Citi wouldn't let them due to taxes.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Jeez.
tim pool
JP says darker-skinned people have less vitamin D. It's not racism.
That causes the disparity in deaths.
Oh, really.
Carrie Steer says the Amazon show The Expanse show what Earth would be like if all the far-left policies are enacted, and it's scary.
Well, I need to rewatch it.
adam crigler
Such a good show.
tim pool
I kind of agree, man.
says, like I said, Trump is playing 40 chess with the rest of the world. China and who
have now been caught and red handed and our own media sides with them. TDS is deadlier
than COVID-19. I kind of agree, man. I mean, not literally deadlier, but more dangerous
because it could lead to full on war. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Paul says more Trump bucks your
Stocked up on beans for the next two years.
Still waiting on my Patriot supply, but my order is in front of 106,330 orders.
Ordered February 26th, thanks to Tim Pool.
Wow, man.
lydia smith
They are way backed up.
tim pool
Yeah, but they've been speeding up.
So for those that aren't familiar, I've done a promo for this emergency food stuff, because I legit think it's a good idea.
And the delay went from like 12 weeks, and now it's dipping back down.
But they had to open new plants.
There's a bunch of food shortages.
adam crigler
Are they made in America?
tim pool
I think so.
adam crigler
I hope so.
tim pool
I would certainly hope so.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
It'd be weird to have the like food grown in China then shipped here though.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm pretty sure that there was like very patriotic, the page.
And they're like, we won't sell to the U.S.
government.
I was like, geez, they're serious over there.
tim pool
I'm like, I don't care if the U.S.
government gets emergency food.
I'm not worried about that much.
Alright, we have a major influx of superchats, so... Wow, nice.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I gotta figure out where we're at.
adam crigler
Well hey guys, remember to like and share if you so feel we deserve it.
lydia smith
Or wish to punish your friends.
tim pool
Wow, this is huge.
adam crigler
Or punish your friends if you think we're terrible.
I'll accept it.
tim pool
Susan says, the world's oldest profession is begging.
Somebody had to ask.
unidentified
Hah.
tim pool
Roddy says, hey, I brought this up yesterday, but I'll pay to try and get more information out there to everyone about the internal faction war going on in China.
Zhang Zemin was the guy who took power after Tiananmen massacre for supporting it.
TBC.
Thank you for preaching what I've been trying to tell people.
Crony capitalism and owners who care all about the money to profit themselves while sending all the cheap labor to China.
And this is what bothers me because then the left claims capitalism is broken.
No, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Corrupt individuals and politicians extracting the middle class is corruption.
That has nothing to do with capitalism or socialism for that matter.
adam crigler
It's just run off the rails.
tim pool
By people selfishly exploiting the system for their personal gain.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
Roddy says, he began creating a cult of personality and put his loyalists in all positions of power.
This is the Jiang guy.
To finalize his power base so he could run things from behind, he selected Falun Gong as scapegoats and hunted them using the 610 office.
Interesting.
Yasser, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Michael Moroney says, if you want to solve the spoiled Brett problem in this country, make voting contingent upon serving in the military for two years.
adam crigler
That is the... Super Troopers?
tim pool
Starship Troopers.
adam crigler
Starship Troopers.
Right, yeah.
Not Super Troopers.
tim pool
Roddy goes on.
When Xi Jinping took power, he had the same idea and has needed to dismantle all of his enemy's loyalists through purges.
The Jiang faction is deep in things like North Korea, which has been one of the reasons Xi hasn't been.
Nicholas says you should read Starship Troopers.
It depicts a society in which you have to put in two years of military service for the right to vote or hold office.
Still have other basic rights though.
It's a fascinating idea.
I think Sargon is in favor of that.
I don't want to say what he's in favor of, but Sargon did a big video breaking down like, and it's a joke, service guarantees citizenship or something like that.
adam crigler
Well, what if they just went, like you talked about not wanting mandatory boot camp, but what if that was all it was?
If you want to vote, you got to do boot camp.
tim pool
That's the general premise.
adam crigler
But not serve.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
Not actually go and serve and you might be at war.
Just curious, what would you think about that?
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
It's tough.
adam crigler
That's okay.
tim pool
This is why I'll never be in government.
adam crigler
Stay on the fence.
tim pool
Well, I just don't think I'm smart enough to dictate for other people how they should live their lives.
adam crigler
I'm just asking your opinion, though.
tim pool
My opinion is that we probably need something.
I don't know if that's the right answer.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But we need something so that people are responsible with their vote.
adam crigler
Man, you'd make such a good politician.
tim pool
No, I wouldn't.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
I'd be standing there and be like- They all agree with me.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Because people would be like- Don't you agree with me?
Yes.
Mr. Poole, you're running for office.
What's your position on increasing or decreasing taxes?
I'd be like- It's complicated.
I have no idea.
Why should we vote for you?
I have no idea.
No, no.
unidentified
Don't.
adam crigler
No, you would say, you know what, I'm not the expert.
I'm going to bring in experts and I'm going to learn what I need to do.
That's what you would say.
tim pool
Probably.
Or I'd just be like, I will tell you what, I'm going to sit there confused half the time,
not understanding because I'm going to have lobbyists from both sides screaming in my
ears.
adam crigler
So the truth.
Oh wonderful.
tim pool
It would be it would be incredible.
I I would never agree I would never agree it would I would never want to be in a position of national security But if I was ever in like Congress or anything I just be like just throwing documents out like here's a picture I take pictures of everything and be like here you go here you go.
It's all public everyone gets to see it Yeah, I love that where I'd wear a permanent no more behind the scenes.
adam crigler
That's great.
tim pool
They'd be like get this guy in there Mr. Poole, this is a sensitive meeting."
I'm like, oh, can you guys see?
He said it was sensitive.
What was that again?
Hold on, they're chatting me right now.
They're saying, tell him to shut up.
We pay your salary.
They said they pay your salary, so you should shut up.
That'd be funny.
lydia smith
Yes!
adam crigler
Alright, sorry for side-tracking us there.
tim pool
Alright, let's read.
Ted says, I think you should mention Sour Patch Sidekick in your promos.
He's a third of the show, or at least a quarter.
Also, did Reza act like he enjoyed his TV dinner asking for a friend?
adam crigler
Disgusting.
tim pool
Well, yes.
We need to get the camera and the thing for... Sour Patch Sidekick.
lydia smith
I love it.
adam crigler
Sour Patch Sidekick.
It's got a good ring to it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like it.
tim pool
And Chris says, I'm from a third world country.
I've been to the U.S.
and the EU and the U.K.
Just the amount of freedom the U.S.
has makes it the best country in the world.
Europe is China lite.
Maybe the U.K.
can go back, said.
Will says, accept my offering, sweet Jesus.
And there's some money, $23.12.
I will accept this.
Interesting.
Well, thanks for doing that.
Tim and Adam and hail the hidden hottie.
I never fantasize about the apocalypse.
Visiting the Philippines to do charity work was hellish though.
I hope the country is opening.
adam crigler
Well, thanks for doing that.
tim pool
Aqua says, keep it going guys.
Much appreciated.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Student of history says, China gonna ban multiplayer video games.
Hope Blizzard feels happy about cucking out for them.
And these kids went to college and are in debt and complaining.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's doing good.
to earn their way like the rest of us, and government-funded school loans, problem solved.
I'm a truck driver earning 85K per year, truck paid for.
And these kids went to college and are in debt and complaining.
adam crigler
Yeah, he's doing good, congrats.
tim pool
CoreSonic says, if you guys have not played Tales of Berseria,
it's all about a man taking away everyone's rights and being human, as being human and making them slaves.
This could be us soon.
unidentified
Yikes.
adam crigler
Scary.
tim pool
JMaxx says, Adam, which Final Fantasy VII re-character do you think they did the best with?
Which one do you find lacking?
If any.
I really love everything Barret and Aerith, uh, everything Barret and Aerith is a strong second for me.
Jesse gets an honorable mention.
I thought Rude was too talkative compared to the original.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
He didn't say anything really in the first one.
I'm really bummed that you can't use Red XIII as a character.
I really love Tifa now.
She is so much more BA than... I can't swear, but I want to.
The first game, I didn't use her ever because her Limit Break was risky and it wasn't a sure thing.
So I always ended up using Cid, Barret, and Cloud because their Limit Breaks were just simply the best.
And this game gives you a really good way of figuring out what each character is really good.
I love them all.
Even Aerith I never used because I knew something in the future was going to happen.
I don't really want to...
I mean, the game's 23 years old, but it doesn't matter.
I just, you know, it felt like a waste, but I was using her, and she is really strong, and Biggs and Wedge and Jesse, I like that you got to see that whole side of the Avalanche team that you didn't before, so that was really cool.
So, but thanks for the shout-out.
Cool.
tim pool
Kami says, you seriously need to watch Serial Experiments Lane.
It will change your perception of reality.
Cool.
Logan Dikari says, Got my stimulus money and three weeks of unemployment all in one day, so shut up and take my money.
Plus my work is talking about going back to regular hours next week.
Love you.
Aunt Aunt.
Keep it up.
Cool, man.
I hope everything kicks back into high gear and people get their jobs back.
adam crigler
Me too.
tim pool
Sam says, Best thing about the Chinese online gaming ban?
The script kiddie hackers will suffer.
Also a discussion on Strauss how generational theory would make a good podcast topic nowadays.
That is a good idea.
Strauss, how generational theory is basically strong men make good times.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
It goes on how, like, we're actually supposed to be on the cusp of a civil war or a complete and total breakdown of some sort.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It certainly feels like it, doesn't it?
tim pool
Every 80 years or something like that.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We'll see.
adam crigler
It feels like it for sure.
We're there.
tim pool
Connor says, start wiping sitting.
Final one is done standing as a safety.
adam crigler
All right.
tim pool
All right.
Reiterating, Nerdette's newsstand has great coverage of Amber and Johnny.
She has a playlist of videos she's done on it.
Cool.
The Grizzly says, hey man, I just wanted to ask you if you are going to do any more conspiracy stuff after this outbreak and nonsense is hopefully over.
My question is to all three of you, what's your favorite conspiracy theory and why is that?
I don't know, probably lizard people in the center of the Earth.
Well, no, no, no, my favorite conspiracy theory is that human life and all life originated on Venus and that a runaway greenhouse effect was destroying the planet so the military created the Ark to escape the planet with the DNA of two of each animal and then seed Earth and that we're actually living in a post-apocalyptic new world But we originally came from Venus.
I love that movie.
adam crigler
I'm not really into conspiracy theories that much because I'm so logic based that I tend to really dig into science and stuff that, you know, I don't, I don't care to delve into conspiracies when I can delve into like actual scientific proof of things.
But we did come across some, someone tweeted at me, the expanding earth.
Conspiracy?
tim pool
Oh yeah.
adam crigler
And it's kind of cool.
I mean, it seems a little silly, but at the same time, it's kind of cool.
I don't know.
tim pool
Listen, I looked it up.
Expanding Earth was the old theory before tectonic plates.
adam crigler
Ah, before they knew about it.
Right.
tim pool
They were trying to explain how the continents moved.
lydia smith
That makes sense.
adam crigler
Okay, that makes sense.
tim pool
Because Expanding Earth doesn't explain the water volume.
adam crigler
Right, I know.
tim pool
Uh, but somebody mentions right here, this is interesting, saying, uh, NLF, I think it says NLF, the House and Senate disagree on the time of adjournment.
The Constitution says the President may adjourn them to such time as he shall, uh, he shall think proper.
Okay.
Someone says Article 2, Section 3, is that it?
unidentified
Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, so technically this is technically constitutional.
adam crigler
Well, is it or isn't it?
tim pool
If it is constitutional, I got no problem.
lydia smith
It's just never been done before, is everyone's issue with it.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, we are in the middle of a pandemic.
tim pool
These are interesting times.
It's because the House is Democrat, the Senate is Republican.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
So they're not on the same terms.
tim pool
Probably, something like that.
lydia smith
Yeah, profit.
tim pool
Motto says, South Dakotan Governor Noem isn't just hip to constitutional rights, she's also hot AF cattle rancher.
Massive devaluation of our currency labor will manufacturing return, poorer but more sovereign.
Matthew says, since the Senate is not meeting until the 4th of May, but they are still in session, Trump is threatening to end the session and do racist appointments.
Ah.
Chris says, Tim and 2, DY for all of your feeds and news, greatly appreciate it for the last 6 months and get me prepped in December.
By the way, I'm retired Navy and banded my head earlier on the Carrier articles.
Want help?
Uh, we'll see.
I mean, I don't know.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Tweet some information.
tim pool
Yeah.
Tweet it to Adam.
adam crigler
There's my Twitter.
Send it over to me.
I'll check it out.
tim pool
Chris says, please cover this tragedy going on in CA.
I'm affected by this as well.
Look up the petition to waive EDD false statement penalty weeks during a COVID-19 for claimants in good standing.
We'll check it out.
DK Samaritan says, uh, there's a link.
Here's a link to executive orders and powers.
Oh, interesting.
Agent Toon says Trump is frustrated at obstruction.
The current practice of leaving town while conducting phony pro-forma sessions is a dereliction of duty and that the American people cannot afford during the crisis.
Well, there you go.
We didn't get a chance to look into it, but it looks like we're getting the explanation.
Theodore McCarthy says, the complaints about Trump's attitude are just elitist bigotry.
It's snooty people who can't stand the president talks like a bricklayer from Queens.
lydia smith
Well, yes, he does.
tim pool
That I agree with.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
adam crigler
He's blunt.
tim pool
That's why I never really cared.
I grew up around all this stuff in Chicago.
adam crigler
Yeah, same here.
tim pool
I'm like, what is this?
I think I get it.
adam crigler
I'm pretty blunt.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You know, I come off as brash sometimes, but I mean, it's who I am.
tim pool
Israel says, it's crazy.
I was at Walmart.
It felt like Black Friday.
Lines of people with 55-inch, 65-inch TVs.
The future isn't secure.
Is a TV that important?
Will they be the ones not paying rent?
Maybe it was all the Trump bucks.
People are like, I got money!
lydia smith
I got money.
Not wise.
adam crigler
Just go spend it on a TV.
tim pool
Easy E says, we call it the flu-han virus over here in Michigan.
Sebastian, thanks for the super chat.
Trumpelstiltskin says, don't let the woo-flu get you.
Will not.
Woolfalt says, What happens when the news is no longer free from bias?
What happens when it is no longer trustworthy?
Fact becomes fiction.
Fiction fact, when does news become propaganda?
Danger to the Republic.
Oh, we just got a big ol' super chat jump.
I love when that happens.
There we go.
Carlos says, Winnie the Pooh did Tiananmen Square.
Alright.
Flying Squirrel says, Trump does all the things rational people yell at their TVs.
He shows the press when they lie and he beats on Congress when they hold up progress of normal government duties.
You three do an awesome job and I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Kurt, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Equizlul says, Tim, you're what a true liberal should represent and what the media should be.
Keep up the good work.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
Zachary says, philosophical conundrum.
We try to extend human life as much as possible through advances in medicine, but if we unlock the key to immortality, would it be moral to make it accessible to the public?
Oh, that is a great topic of conversation.
You want to write that down?
We should talk about, like, immortality and stuff like... Altered carbon.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Altered carbon.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Then I have to watch it.
tim pool
I don't know you guys.
unidentified
You haven't seen it?
No.
adam crigler
Oh, you got it.
unidentified
It's so good.
I know, I will have to.
tim pool
I don't know you guys says, conspiracy thought.
Maybe the corona was a honeypot meant for Winnie the Pooh gone wrong.
Love the matching color scheme.
Thanks, YouTube.
Mr. Scratch says, hey Tim, Australian here.
Only 15 cases of COVID in my hometown right now, in my town right now.
However, it looks like a ghost town.
Wish my family would take it slightly more seriously.
They think I'm crazy for stocking up on some extra food.
Because the panic is what gets you.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Lehman and Rob's, thanks for coming members.
adam crigler
Thank you both.
tim pool
Shadow Fox says, it's not military service if government service, so long as you serve the state for two years, basically so more or less a federal job.
Oh, so that's the Starship Troopers thing.
It could be a government job of some sort.
adam crigler
Right, okay.
tim pool
Christian says, Tim, you have mentioned several times you aren't anti-Second Amendment, just left of center, and you don't know much about guns.
Would you do a segment with a gun guy to discuss gun rights or maybe go to a range?
unidentified
100%!
tim pool
Yeah, I was wanting to get Coleon Noir in.
And I think I may have mentioned something to him and him to me before, but then the lockdown happened.
I'm like, that would be awesome.
adam crigler
So just to let everybody know, we got a bigger space.
Just to have guests and let me be on the show with the guests, because before I would not be on the show and the guests would sit here and there was only enough room, but now we actually have this positioning, you know, this guest space for a guest.
So once this all blows over, we're definitely gonna bring some guests in.
It's gonna be cool.
tim pool
Or if it doesn't blow over, we'll be gone in a van, hiding in the mountains.
adam crigler
There you go.
tim pool
Won't matter either way.
lydia smith
Right now this is for social distancing.
Technically it's for guests.
tim pool
Right.
John Carroll says, mandatory boot camp or service is foolish.
None of the guys I went to boot camp with became better people just because they went
through training.
They were that way to begin with.
You can't change who someone is in 13 weeks.
That's it.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Good point.
JP Millen says, greeting to the holy trinity of new media.
Adam, have you ever heard of the book series, The Stormlight Archive?
adam crigler
Oh, I've read it.
And it's amazing.
I wish we could just have all of it out, but thus is my finding a good book series that isn't finished.
But what are you going to do?
tim pool
We have now come to the very last segment of the day.
We'll go a little bit longer today.
This story is, this is nuts.
Chinese retailers ban popular Nintendo game Animal Crossing New Horizons after players use it to organize virtual protests against Xi Jinping and the World Health Organization.
There were some other stories too where it claimed that it was like, what were they calling it?
Like a...
An absent of authority or something?
lydia smith
Oh, a vacuum of authority.
tim pool
A vacuum of authority.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I don't know if this has something to do with what was going on in Minecraft.
Remember that story?
It was like these journalists created an archive within Minecraft people could access in the virtual world.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's amazing.
tim pool
But now apparently they're gonna start banning games.
Now, here's my theory.
I think this could be a precursor to a major international conflict.
If they're banning, it's like MMOs or something, right?
Do you know what the gist of the story was?
Because this is talking about Animal Crossing and retailers.
adam crigler
Yeah, there's another article.
tim pool
Yeah, Animal Crossing got banned.
adam crigler
Well, they go into talk about how it's pretty much any public multiplayer game where people can talk that they can't censor or observe.
So, the main thing is Animal Crossing because it just came out.
So, it's like a huge new game that's multiplayer.
So, now they're able to... Like, you could see this article right here.
You know, it says right over his head, Free Hong Kong.
So, it's like... Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's like Free Hong Kong Revolution Now.
So, that's like the world that he named his world that.
So, anyone that goes into his world is like... And they see that like, oh, okay, I could go into that world because I think that too.
Let's go in there and chat.
So, I don't think it's international.
I think it's China trying to shut down any sort of, like a coup, like a civil war from their own citizens finally going, we've had enough.
Because I'm seeing these videos emerge from China.
tim pool
But this guy's not from China, is he?
He's in Hong Kong?
Here, let me read this.
They say... Right, right.
No official reason for the removal was given, but activist Joshua Wong of the Hong Kong youth movement Demo Sisto said the decision was caused by protest activities he and others had conducted in the game.
He said, oh no, Xi Jinping banned Animal Crossing in China, apparently because I play it, and these angry gamers are blaming me everywhere instead of blaming their own government.
According to a report from Pingwest, public chat groups dedicated to the game on WeChat had also adopted new rules to prevent discussion of the ban and were removing any members who tried to bring it up.
The game is set on a small cartoon island and asks players to help a quirky cast of anthropomorphic animal residents with errands and chores while gradually raising money and collecting items to build out their home.
Well I think most of us, that's the gist of Animal Crossing, it is a foofy fun family game.
But I disagree with you, Adam.
It sounds like this activist is saying that the Chinese people don't like him.
They're not blaming the government for it.
They're blaming him for it.
What worries me about this is that through online gaming, you have communication with people in a foreign country.
So you have like that archive in Minecraft.
If they start banning online games because of things people are saying outside of China, then they're segmenting their population from communicating with the rest of the world.
There's already the great Chinese firewall.
They've already tried doing this.
Russia has apparently tried doing this.
What ends up happening, in my opinion, is if you have the government saying, the United States government did this, And then someone goes online and they speak with an American who says, well, here's what we heard.
Then there's doubt.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You can't rally your public to support your cause if they're getting information from the other side.
adam crigler
Well, but in that same sense, they can't convince their, you know, their public that it's America's fault.
If they're mad at the CCP, like Chinese citizens are mad at the CCP and they're blaming them, And the CCP is like, no, no, no, it's America.
Like, we're just trying to stop you from, you know, believing what you're saying.
It's us, but it's not.
It's America.
And then they're doing exactly that.
They're going in these forums and going, oh, yeah, but these American friends of mine are like, that's not what's going on.
tim pool
But they're banning the forums.
They're blocking people.
adam crigler
Right.
To make sure that their citizens think what they're telling them.
So it could go either way, honestly.
Both things could be true.
But it feels like they're just trying this as a tactic for control.
They're just trying to maintain the narrative.
They want their citizens to get everything from them and take anything that they could get outside source information and take it away.
tim pool
I'll tell you, I'll tell you this.
We've seen the video of the people riding at the Wuhan border.
You remember that thing, right?
So if those aren't familiar, they like flipped over a squad car, like a van or something.
adam crigler
And the Wuhan police were with them fighting the outside.
tim pool
Forces this is why I don't like the idea of the biolab conspiracy theory that I'm sorry the bioweapon conspiracy theory Yeah, I don't I don't know because this might destabilize China.
adam crigler
I think it will I think that's exactly what's happening there.
They're losing control and They're communists so they they have to have the controllers that doesn't work absolutely if their citizens are If it's bubbling up, I feel it is.
Because we've seen these videos.
We've seen people in China fighting the police state.
tim pool
And what you gotta realize, when we see videos in the U.S.
of people smashing cop cars and setting fires, like, dude, we're a country based on protest and unruliness.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
We literally told the king to go shove it.
And then we were like, it's our country now.
So we protest.
It's what we do.
I'm not saying it's good when people riot and stuff.
I'm just saying, come on, man.
Americans, we riot for everything.
Football game we won?
Riot.
Did we lose?
unidentified
Riot.
lydia smith
Also riot.
tim pool
In China they don't.
In China, you put the wrong post on the internet and they torture you.
We've seen that video of the guy being tortured by the cops and they're like, why did you make fun of us?
So the risk for the Chinese to protest seems... I'm not an expert on China, okay?
I know there's a lot of pro-China people who like to rag on me, assuming that I think I am.
I'm not.
But I've seen videos of people, like some woman put a camera in her room.
She had turned her phone on and then police come in and like take her away and she filmed it.
Like you say the wrong thing, they come for you.
So imagine what these people must've been thinking when they started flipping over a police vehicle.
They didn't care anymore.
They were like, nothing you could do to me is worse than what's already happening.
adam crigler
Exactly.
And I think that that's happening right now.
tim pool
Take away someone's video game.
adam crigler
That's the final straw.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
That's why Trump wasn't Trump talking about football.
lydia smith
And he was like, we all miss sports.
tim pool
But he was saying something about like, you can't take away someone's football.
Like it's got to start up.
We're talking with the sports companies.
adam crigler
Yeah, all of them.
He's, you know, bringing all of the experts are not experts, the owners, basically.
tim pool
Look at the Roman Colosseum, at least the way it's portrayed in like, you know, fictional narratives or whatever.
That was basically a distraction for the people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I think it's really funny.
They say like, oh, they had all these problems in Rome, but they would come out and they would throw bread to the audience and they would watch these games and it would keep them satiated.
We got like four Colosseums in every major city.
adam crigler
Basically, yeah.
tim pool
Now here's the thing.
I always thought about this.
I'm like, man, most of these people don't care about what's going on in the world because they care more about their hometown team versus, you know, the other team, their rival.
What happens when the sports stops?
All of a sudden, people's team becomes political.
Nah, the government is probably thinking, we need people to watch football.
adam crigler
I definitely think that.
Definitely.
Because they probably are looking at China going, whoa, man.
They're revolting over there.
tim pool
Right now, because sports has been frozen, eSports is taking center stage.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Because people can still play games online.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
That's what I'm doing.
China is now banning some of these video games.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So I'll tell you what, man.
adam crigler
What are you going to do now?
tim pool
You can keep your population in the corner, in the dark, just not paying attention because they're staring at the screen, pressing buttons, and harvesting little digital flowers.
Take that away from them.
They're going to look up and ask what just happened and why.
This is the stupidest thing they could have done.
It's like you've given people... It's almost like you give a dog a treat, and then you try and take it back.
He growls at you.
Like, he didn't care about it before, but now that he's got it, you don't take it away from him.
So, in that regard, not only are they distracted, but you've given them something that's appeased them.
They've grown addicted to it.
You take that away.
They're not going to protest because of your authoritarian abuses.
They're going to protest because you took away their video game.
Like, you've created a reason for a revolution.
adam crigler
Yep.
Nah, I mean, I'm not gonna- I mean, the reason was there.
Right.
But now it's like- No, no, I'm saying it's a different reason.
No, no, it's just the final straw.
You put it up there, and it finally breaks the camel's back.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no, it's- I mean, I see what you're saying, but the point I'm trying to make is, if they never had the games in the first place, they'd be doing something else.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it just came out, like last week.
them this game.
adam crigler
Yeah, and just came out and last week and now they're all like, oh,
tim pool
this is so fun. Now take it away from them.
Now they know how good how good it was and they're mad they lost it.
Yeah. So not only do they have the reason to protest or revolt because
of like the border closures, the continued suspension of like, you
know, business and everything.
Now you've taken away what little reprieve they had in the first
place.
So I don't look. I mean, whether or not it translates to internal
conflict, I think there's a good argument because people like
their, you know, novelties.
But my bigger concern is with the actions we've seen from the Chinese government, could this contribute to a separation between the Chinese people and people outside of China, which then creates an obedient and, you know, angry population which rallies behind their government?
And then when the government says, oh, you know, we banned this because the Americans are putting propaganda and disinformation, a lot of people are going to believe it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess.
tim pool
And what happens right now if China comes out and says the U.S.
just sank our carrier?
Imagine if they faked it.
adam crigler
Like that carrier they brought out to the ocean.
It's like, yeah, everybody is seeing it go out there.
And then they're like, oh, America sunk it.
That would be insane.
tim pool
So these things have happened, false flags, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
What if China did that?
Their people would not know.
And so they would all panic and be like, oh no, we're being attacked by the Americans, oh no.
adam crigler
I guess we'll go to war then.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it's funny because a lot of the conspiracy theories we hear about false flags are typically that U.S.
citizens talk about the U.S.
government.
So I think, um, I don't know the full details of the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
It got us pulled into the Vietnam war, but it was, it was apparently like fake.
They said like a US ship was attacked and never was or something like that.
I don't know the full details.
You have to, you can look it up.
But it's funny because we never talk about other governments doing the same thing.
And that's why I'm concerned when they start cutting off communication, which China's been doing for a long time, it creates the opportunity for them to lie to their people and rally them to, you know, basically support militaristic actions against other countries.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Yeah.
Did you find it?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Apparently it was kind of a false flag.
They found something they called Tonkin ghosts, which were false radar images.
They were not actually North Vietnamese torpedo boats.
tim pool
Well, they claimed the ship got hit, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It didn't.
lydia smith
Yeah.
So one of the, one of, okay.
So one of the aircraft was damaged.
One real and one falsely claimed confrontation between ships of North Vietnam and the U.S.
tim pool
Look, so much goes on at top secret levels, we'll never know.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But, could you imagine living in a country where they take away your video games?
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
Or the internet?
adam crigler
Definitely not.
tim pool
No way.
adam crigler
I would riot.
tim pool
You keep your people fat and happy, man.
adam crigler
I love games.
I've always been a gamer.
tim pool
They're pushing hard.
And people are already riled up.
So I guess we'll see how this pans out.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess so.
adam crigler
Word.
tim pool
Let's grab the last few Super Chats here.
If you haven't already, hitting the like button really does help the channel.
Sharing the podcast, sharing really helps.
You know, look, if you go to youtube.com right now, there's a section called COVID and it's going to be mainstream media.
The likelihood you will get up-to-date, rational information is relatively low.
And I mean it.
Because what we do is, not only do we, we do look at mainstream media reporting, but we actually kind of break it down and go through it.
I didn't just pull up the Fox News story and say, look at that.
I pulled up the AP, I pulled up tweets for reference, I pulled up other stories, the Washington Post, and I try to do, I try to break down and factor what these organizations are doing to get ahead of the curve.
YouTube deranks us, and they give the front page to the channels that are two weeks, two months behind the story.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Nothing we can do about it.
But I'll tell you what.
adam crigler
But you can do it by sharing it.
tim pool
There's nothing more powerful.
No algorithm could stop people sharing.
So they can try and suppress this channel and these videos, which they've done, but if you choose to share it because you like it, then we get way more play than CNN ever will.
unidentified
Of course.
adam crigler
And you guys rock.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
But also make sure to follow us, and if you follow Adam, at AdamKrigler, you can send him story ideas, and then, you know, we actually fairly often use the stuff that you guys submit.
adam crigler
That's true.
You guys are great.
You give me all sorts of stuff, and pretty much every other show, we're doing something that you've given me.
So, really appreciate you guys out there.
tim pool
And you can follow me at Timcast on Instagram and Twitter.
Follow me on Instagram if you want to see fun videos.
I usually just post like little silly skate stuff we have.
adam crigler
We will start making skate videos soon, by the way.
We're getting warmed up.
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Adam got a bunch of pretty good tricks.
It's like fakie, body varial, blunt, rock, like revert.
It was smooth.
adam crigler
It was a good trick.
tim pool
One of the best tricks we've done on the mini ramp so far.
We've got a lot to come.
adam crigler
I'm loving the mini ramp.
tim pool
All right, let's, uh, I'm, I'm trying to figure out where we're at.
Here we go.
Based Oki says, don't skip over my Liz Crokan question, please.
All right.
I apologize for missing your question.
I will, I will tell you the more people we get, the harder it is to read everyone's questions.
And I got to admit, like, even now we do like an hour of, of Q and A. I know.
And it's getting harder and harder because more and more people are posting.
adam crigler
But it's great, we had some serious good conversation though from the Super Chats, so we really do appreciate you guys.
lydia smith
Yeah, but it does slow us down.
tim pool
Well, it's not about slowing us down, it's just like, we want to read as many as we can.
adam crigler
But we are doing a two hour show, so, I mean, we're already over right now, but we gotta do it.
tim pool
And it's cool, but here's the thing, when we end up with like 15,000 people watching, more Super Chats are coming in than we can read.
And over time, it just would never stop.
So it's like at a certain point, we've got to move.
So I apologize, Based, for not getting your question in, but I will say, if we don't, you can try and ask it again.
I'm really sorry if we can't get to it.
Lightspeed says, if Tim Poole was president, he would interrupt meetings to read Super Chats.
Probably.
Dude, I would be so disrupted every meeting.
lydia smith
His tiny gavel.
tim pool
I'd have a gavel.
I'd be in like a Senate meeting and they'd be like, and I'd be like, no!
I would be worse than Ron Paul.
I would be Mr. No x10.
I'd be like, No!
No.
No, that's not true.
I'd probably be like, I don't know.
I have no idea.
It's complicated.
All right, here we go.
Marcus Aurelius says, hey guys, if you want to learn more about China, go find a channel called China Uncensored.
They do good work.
I've heard good things.
Buck says, second, the recommendation for Serial Experiments Lane.
It's a videodrome, the anime, but it's in a good way, and a must-see for fans of cerebral sci-fi and horror.
Sounds good.
Nasfraj says, I work for Tesla Energy in the Bay Area, and Elon's honestly been taking pretty good care of us and work is still going.
Cool.
adam crigler
That's good to hear.
tim pool
Aaron Cowell says, wasn't some of the reason for the Trump bucks to make it easier for people to keep money flowing in the economy?
Yes, it was.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Sword, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Gustavo says, about immortality, do you are prepared for an immortal Trump?
Immortal Xi Jinping?
Immortal Hillary Clinton?
That's a great question.
I am not.
Austin says, We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false, said the CIA director in 1981, supposedly.
Hmm, wow.
Tiller says, You and Kalian Noir on the range would be awesome to watch.
No cuts, just raw footage.
You and Kalian, yeah.
I mean, I'm down when this is all over.
Kermit Loves Bacon says, Timmy should get Madge from Black Guns Matter on.
Oh, totally.
I think I've met that guy, too.
I mean, we don't talk about everything.
Like, I can't say Voldemort's name.
But I have a limit, right?
If there's a story that's big and breaking, I will put that story out there.
I haven't.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You guys?
unidentified
No.
No.
tim pool
I'll look into it.
Justin Forces, I've floated the idea of two years in any public sector job, including military.
But your coworkers must verify that you went above the bare minimum of effort.
Voting should be earned, but not impossible for the poor and disabled.
That's a good point.
This is my third Super Chat tonight.
Please don't skip me again.
I just want a yes or no, please.
I haven't been doing any guest segments with anybody at all.
And it's like we actually had a bunch of people planned on doing shows with.
And I'm not gonna tell you who this was.
I actually had a very, very massive...
Yeah, I'm bummed.
collaboration planned that is now effectively canceled and it's a huge bummer.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm bummed because I know what it's about.
tim pool
Yep, can't say, can't say.
adam crigler
Can't tell you, but I know.
tim pool
But there was a really big thing planned, so I'm not doing, you know, for the most part, anything with anybody.
You know, I don't know, maybe things will change in the future.
Roddy says, and look, people have asked about doing Skype stuff, and it's like, we just, we didn't set any of this stuff up for it.
This was set up for in-studio interviews.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
I've actually, I did the Skype thing with Crowder.
It was actually hard.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, because...
I don't know what the problem is.
I should have been able to easily set it up considering the gear we have, but when I configured everything, it was not set up for Skype.
And so it's giving me codec issues and it interferes because we got like five cameras set up.
We got all these microphones and everything.
Yeah.
Probably if I started from the ground up planning for something like Skype, which I should have, but we have another machine we set up for different stuff that wouldn't work for this show.
It's confusing.
Roddy says, and if things go bad in China, the old nostalgic leader Jiang Zemin will come to the rescue and overflow things just to keep in power.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Blaze says, America, don't let a good opportunity go to waste.
This pandemic will be used against us and our liberties unless we use it.
This jolt to the economy can be used.
Sports, concert, work all paused.
This is the moment.
DK6 says, paying 1% of my stimulus forward, what skaters do you follow on Instagram?
I follow some young skaters.
They are incredible.
I follow the big magazines.
adam crigler
Man, the young skaters are crazy.
tim pool
Aurelien Girard.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't even think that guy's real.
I feel like I'm watching a video game or CGI.
Those tricks are so insane.
adam crigler
I like Daewon Song.
tim pool
Oh, Daewon's amazing.
adam crigler
He's really fun and different.
Yeah, who else?
I mean, Naija's just so clean.
Every single thing he poses.
tim pool
They're all robots.
adam crigler
That's it.
They're all robots.
They're doing these crazy tricks that are just beyond me.
I love skating and I won't ever stop, but I won't be there.
I'm not going to try those things.
tim pool
Bofadiz says, will the Chinese Boogaloo be called the Flugaloo if they all have the sickness?
Someone's name is Tim Pool versus Ben Shapiro 2024.
Let's make this happen.
Battle of the well-informed.
I think for the most part, we wouldn't disagree because Ben's very libertarian in a lot of issues.
And so ultimately we disagree and be like, but we agree on the freedom of the person to, you know what I mean?
I listen to both of them and I'm like, yeah, you guys agree on more things than you probably I think his conservatism comes a lot from his spirituality, which I don't have.
So we'd ultimately be like, I respect your right to believe and support your religion.
unidentified
He'd be like, okay, that's great.
tim pool
It's libertarian.
Che says, Tim, did you know that while everyone is distracted by this pandemic, Congress is quietly trying to pass a bill that will effectively end end-to-end encryption?
Look Up, Earn It Act.
I have seen that.
I really need to look it up.
Would you mind?
lydia smith
I will make a note.
tim pool
Make a note of it.
East Shore says, I didn't get any pics of the National Guard clearing our facility, but they were great.
Also, just check Twitter, and the Wuhan lab story isn't trending.
Why am I not surprised?
Yeah, it's crazy.
adam crigler
Not surprising.
tim pool
It's what people prioritize.
Wolf in Coyote says, Hey Tim, don't know if anyone else told you for yesterday's video, but amphibious assault ships are both mini-carriers and troop transports with interior docks for transport hovercrafts and marine amphibious tanks APCs.
Cool.
Let's see.
Karambit says, Animal Crossing is the new Boaty McBoatface, the last straw that caused Brexit and will cause the revolution in China.
Amazing.
No, but people keep talking about it.
Yeah, we'll take another note of it, I guess.
documentary. We have not. No, but people keep talking about it. Yeah, we'll check, we'll take
another note of it, I guess. Yeah. Patrick says, hey Tim and company, here's a few more Trump bucks
for you. Keep doing what you do. I have to say you are the only liberal journalist that I enjoy
watching on a regular basis. Nice. But, but policy never is like a big issue about it.
It's like if I said I like social programs, the media is lying.
What does my policy position have to do with anything if I point out the media is lying?
It's like, it's not an issue of liberal or conservative, it's an issue of honesty.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but what can you do if the media wants to make money so they're willing to lie to get money?
unidentified
I got it.
tim pool
Thank you.
I haven't seen it.
Don't know what it is.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
Got it, thank you.
Corey says, what do you think of Out of the Shadows on YouTube?
I haven't seen it.
Don't know what it is.
Brian M says, check out YouTube guys named Neebs Gaming for animators.
They are amazing guys and huge animators, cool.
Kami says, watch Serial Experiments Lane.
It will change your world.
Now I really want to.
Cody says, have you played Apex Legends?
I didn't, did you?
adam crigler
No.
They're all the same, it feels like.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
All these... Overwatch.
Fortnite, Overwatch.
I mean, I've never... I actually don't know that much about Apex Legends, but isn't it one of those free games that like... It's like a team first-person shooter.
Yeah, I mean... Oh yeah, it's like... I grew up playing Counter-Strike, and that was fun, and I kind of got it out of my system, so that doesn't really do much for me anymore.
I like Destiny 2 because you can choose to go into, like, the 6v6, you know, multiplayer, fighting, killing each other, or you can do the story mode, all with your same character, and that doesn't really exist anymore.
Yeah.
tim pool
John says immortal Trump could only be president for four more years and immortal Putin on the other hand.
Yeah, that's that's worried.
Based Oki says weak answer, dude.
We're not going to be in quarantine forever.
Come on, it would get a lot of views at the very least.
Uh, you know what, man?
When people try to bother me because they want airtime on my platform, it's one of the most annoying things ever.
I get inundated with emails from people saying, like, I should have to debate somebody.
And it's like, dude, the amount of emails I get from people who think that I should do something with someone because they want their position out there, you have no idea.
And I'm not trying to be mean.
I apologize if it's a little bit disrespectful.
I'm just like, I get 50 emails a week where they're like, why aren't you talking about, you know, the electrical current that just struck in Alaska?
You have no idea what's going on.
I thought you're fake.
You're fake news.
And I'm like, I get these emails all the time.
I have one person emailing me saying that because I'm not talking about like this one new government program that I've never heard of.
It's like, dude, I just, I read the news.
I talk about what I can talk about.
I interview people.
We had a guy on talking about school choice.
We had a guy on talking about like traditional marriage and stuff.
I, I, I've never talked to anybody about Pizzagate or QAnon or any of this stuff.
So it's like, I don't understand why anyone would expect that I would actually have those guests on.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I can talk about China.
It's in the news.
Where are we at?
Umi says, Tim, do you play Roblox?
I do not.
Phantom Boomer says, you and Coleen and Taryn Butler's school would be freaking awesome.
68, retired in San Diego, and bored out of my mind.
Johnny Appleseed says, watch out of shadows.
Million views per day.
PS, are you riding with Biden?
I am certainly not.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
Gareth says, the Chinese people might seem docile, but they have always had a limit to what they endure, and more individualistic than they let on.
Waldo says, 30M behind in the stream, but a good way to get people to take their vote seriously while encouraging people to grow up, in my opinion.
Raise the voting age back to 25 unless you serve, then you can vote at 18.
That's interesting.
adam crigler
That's interesting, yeah.
tim pool
Nerdy says, ADV, China, Serpentsa, and Laowai were the ones who are supposed to be on here soon, no?
Well, a lot of people have recommended stuff, but we never, like, we're not doing guests or anything, so we'll see what happens in the future.
But I think we're about ready to wrap up.
We went a little over today, but it's cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So you can follow me at TimCast on Twitter and Instagram, but you can also follow at AdamKrigler and send him stories because he goes through them, we pick them up, and we often use them.
lydia smith
Come hither.
tim pool
Yes.
So if you haven't already, and I know I've said it several times, hit the like button, subscribe, notification bell, and share the video.
That's the best way we can grow, and if you like us and think we do a good job, we appreciate it.
adam crigler
You can also find Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Yeah, Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.
adam crigler
Lids, L-Y-D-S.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Sour Patch L-Y-D-S.
tim pool
And we're also on iTunes and Spotify and a bunch of other... Google, yeah.
So far we've got those.
So if you want to listen to the shows, you can find it on your mobile apps.
Thanks for coming, everyone.
I guess we'll leave it there and we'll see you all, what's today, Wednesday?
Tomorrow at 8pm.
adam crigler
See you tomorrow.
tim pool
Adios, everybody.
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