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April 7, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Turns Out Crying COVID Nurse Who Quit Was HOAX?! Did Media Fake This Or The Nurse?
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unidentified
Hey, what's going on everybody?
tim pool
We're back.
I am Tim.
adam crigler
And I'm Adam.
lydia smith
And I'm Lydia.
tim pool
Lydia's invisible because we don't have a camera for her.
But she speaks from behind the curtain.
lydia smith
Sometimes.
tim pool
How's it going, everybody?
unidentified
Oh, I'm chillin'.
tim pool
We got Fs, Rs, Ls, the chat is lightin' up.
unidentified
Welcome to the show, we're gonna talk about a bunch of stuff.
tim pool
So, apparently there's this viral story, and I commented on it before, I thought it was legit, apparently it's not, where there's this video of this nurse and she's crying.
unidentified
And she's like, they wouldn't let me wear a mask!
tim pool
They're putting us, just, we are not prepared or something, you know, to quote Ilda Dan from Burning Crusade, if you get the reference.
And apparently the video is viral.
Everyone's, it's got, you know, 24,000 retweets.
adam crigler
8 million views.
tim pool
8.6, it says.
8.63 million views of this crying nurse.
That's a lot.
And the first response to it is from a conservative, a Trump supporter, saying, In two months, this will be the Jussie Smollett 2.0.
And then below that is like, it took only one day.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
Turns out it was a hoax.
I don't know if it was CBS or this woman.
Because the woman apparently fessed up to it right away.
unidentified
Oh, really?
tim pool
So, yeah, we got the story.
We're gonna get into, we have this story about apparently there's two, I guess, like, intersectionalist professors who are scared that the coronavirus is gonna make people fatphobic or something.
Is that what it is?
Yep, that's it.
Fatphobia?
Well, because a major risk factor for COVID deaths is obesity.
And so, these are the people that for years have been cheering people on.
And then we got, uh, this is crazy, Jack Dorsey is giving up just about 30% of his net worth.
adam crigler
That's amazing.
tim pool
A billion dollars.
adam crigler
I, I, you told me this and I, I still am having a hard time believing it because that's... No, I believe it.
It was so, such an unexpected thing to happen but That's what has to happen.
They're the ones who have all the wealth, and if he's going to do that, that's amazing.
tim pool
There's a lot of complicated factors behind this.
This could damage the value of his stock.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
Because it's not cash.
However, you know, people rag on Jack Dorsey all the time.
I actually met the guy, as most people probably know, and he is a super hippie.
He gave max contributions to like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.
I am not surprised.
He's like, yeah, I'll give a billion dollars in net worth to COVID relief.
adam crigler
It's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, he's a super hippy-dippy guy, and a lot of people constantly tag him on Twitter when something goes wrong.
And I always tell people, I'm telling you, man, he has nothing to do with it.
He left a long time ago.
They fired him.
I'm pretty sure he has no power.
It's like a mascot.
They just pretend like he's there.
And then I guess if we get around to it, we can rag on Birds of Prey again.
Apparently the woman who directed it or whatever is making excuses for why the movie was awful.
adam crigler
I mean, I love ragging on that movie.
I'd go rag on that movie a little more.
Why not?
tim pool
Special pastime.
All right, so we'll jump to the first story.
However, if you have not already, hit the like button, make sure you subscribe, hit
the notification bell, and hop in the super chat because we will read your comments.
adam crigler
And please share.
tim pool
Oh yeah, share this.
adam crigler
Please share.
tim pool
Go tell everybody, like, guys, this is the best show ever!
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You got this guy Tim and Soy Jesus and Lydia.
Man, it's like hanging out with my buddies.
And then everyone will come in and then we'll get a million viewers.
And then maybe one day we'll displace shows, we'll displace the shows like Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel.
They're doing that, you see that thing, like One World at Home or something?
adam crigler
Yeah, it feels like everyone's trying to copy our style, man.
tim pool
Cringed.
adam crigler
We did it first.
tim pool
No, we didn't, but still.
No, but it really is cringey listening to these celebrities try to do the new generation of media.
Because I've been doing social media for almost a decade now, and you've got a ton of people that have developed this methodology using new technologies, and they've been on TV doing this archaic old thing.
And now that we're all trapped at home, Seeing like Stephen Colbert tried to do an at-home thing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So pathetic.
It's like, and I'm looking at all these high-profile personalities for like MSNBC.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's mind-boggling to me none of them have any capability of high-definition video or sound in their houses.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because like even your phone can do it.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
That's how bad they are at this.
adam crigler
Well, you know, what is it, Good News?
What is it, John Krasinski's thing?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's some good news.
That's great.
tim pool
It's good quality and stuff?
adam crigler
I mean, it's enough that it's not about quality.
He's doing a good show.
It's entertaining.
It's kind of like what we do, but a little bit more.
He's just bringing in good news from any source that people give to him.
tim pool
But it's not just about camera or sound quality.
Because, of course, YouTubers aren't known for their quality.
I mean quality of conversation.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
It's just really weird to watch that, you know, Colbert does thing in his backyard by his fire pit, and I'm like
You are not you okay, so you have all of these youtubers like me for instance
And it's like sitting in a room talking to the camera right and there's something about it where it's like you know it
works Watching him do it from his backyard. It's like clear. He
doesn't know how to be relatable like Like, when you're watching somebody at home talk about stuff, then you, this is like a relatable thing there.
It's like, you're in your room, I'm hanging out.
adam crigler
You're seeing the raw them, as opposed to, he's got probably a room full of writers.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
you know that they prep for every single show the entire day they're talking
about different things they're you know clueing him in on stuff and then you
know boom he does the show so he doesn't have that now so you really are seeing
the raw celebrities as they are you know yeah they're the real them so what ends
tim pool
up happening is you have someone like Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel sitting at home
and like Trevor Noah and they're trying to do an at-home thing to the camera
like a YouTube with all these writers and it's like when you watch them on TV
Maybe it's plastic, but it's shiny plastic.
adam crigler
Shiny.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When you watch people on YouTube at home, you're watching like an authentic person talking about how they feel about things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's authentic.
It's not super high quality stuff.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Now take the worst of both of those things, mash them together, and that's what you get with like Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert and these weird shows they're doing.
adam crigler
Yeah, the luster is gone.
tim pool
on right and so now it's just like about this twisted mangled burnt Legos laying
on the ground and you're like what is that and what makes it worse is they
adam crigler
they really are trying it's like instead of it feeling like a natural like you
and I having conversations you know it's like we've been having conversations
like this for years and years right so it's it's no thing for you to just
continue talking about stuff you know but watching them it really feels like
they're making an effort to talk and instead of it flowing and being like
I bet shiny TV thing, you know.
tim pool
I bet they could barely hold a conversation.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I bet you'd sit in there and they'd be like, uh, I don't know.
lydia smith
Well, they don't have to.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
They can get away with saying whatever they want at a camera and they don't have to carry on a conversation.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Shall we go to our first story?
adam crigler
Oh, we're not even in the story yet.
tim pool
No, we're not.
We're just making fun of mainstream media.
adam crigler
See how much fun we have just talking?
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
In tears, a nurse says she quit her job after she was asked to work in a coronavirus ICU
without a face mask.
America is not prepared, and nurses are not being protected.
You know, when this story first came out, I took it seriously.
I was like, man, it's worrisome when you get nurses and doctors quitting, and they're real nurses quitting, not this, you know, fake whatever.
Then, I mean, things have to fall apart.
But there is good news.
I mean, they're saying that for New York, we're nine days away from the peak, in which case things start chilling out.
adam crigler
Oh, that's nice.
tim pool
Yeah, they're saying, like, we might start easing up on restrictions.
We might actually get the restrictions lifted much sooner than everyone realized.
So it's good news for now.
But just because they're seeing, like, the amount of daily deaths go down in New York doesn't mean it's over.
If they lift restrictions, then two weeks from now it'll spike again.
So Dr. Fauci is saying maybe this is the new normal until we have a vaccine.
adam crigler
Or like you were saying earlier about the deaths that they're finding in apartments aren't even being counted.
tim pool
Oh, don't even get me started, man.
adam crigler
What is the real death toll?
tim pool
What's really annoying to me is there are a lot of people who are... It's clear what they're trying to insinuate, casting doubt upon what's going on.
Like, you know, look, I've done this when we talked about the paddle boarding guy and the beach who got arrested.
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
And that expert who said that the virus was in the water and then kicking up into the air or whatever.
It's like, shut up.
adam crigler
Oh, that was an expert that said that?
tim pool
It's a marine biologist.
adam crigler
Oh, I didn't catch that part.
tim pool
That's so stupid.
Yeah.
There's literally billions of viral particles bouncing up in the air.
She's like, I wouldn't go to the beach if you paid me a million dollars.
adam crigler
Oh, shut up.
There's probably billions of viruses in the water anyway.
unidentified
There are, yeah.
adam crigler
All the time.
tim pool
It's not even about that.
It's like, listen, if you don't want people to go to the beach, just be honest about it.
right and then tell them to go home if they show up anyway yeah but to make up these ridiculous stories yeah so
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Candace Owens who is like a big Trump personality has been tweeting a bunch of
things and one of the things she tweeted was a story from the New York Times that said
where has the the heart attack and stroke victims gone right and then she tweeted doctors around the world are
wondering what's happening to these patients and flu and pneumonia
deaths have dropped off The insinuation that people were making, I'm going to avoid accusing her directly, but the people in the comments were saying, like were replying to her tweets, that these doctors are taking heart attack deaths and calling them coronavirus.
Because there are these stories popping up where it's like, my grandma in Italy, you know, we've talked about it.
adam crigler
All those stories, yeah.
tim pool
And there are a few stories that people have highlighted.
There was a story of an infant who was in the hospital for some kind of a procedure for a month, like a very serious, you know, and then contracted COVID and died.
And so people are questioning why that was labeled as a COVID death.
I think it's fair.
Like they've said over and over again, it's underlying conditions, so it's a contributing factor.
There are some people who are sick who would probably survive, might get it, might not live.
And so they're labeling it as COVID death.
But the other thing is, what people don't realize, people in New York and all over are dying of coronavirus and not being tested.
And they're not being labeled coronavirus.
Yeah.
adam crigler
That doesn't make sense.
tim pool
Take them both, right?
If you think they're over-counting some things, they're definitely under-counting other things.
So they're saying in New York that if they find a DOA, like if they get a call for a wellness check and there's someone dead, and they can't determine the cause of death, they don't put it down as coronavirus.
So the city is concerned they're under-counting the deaths.
Well, let's take a look at this nurse right here.
So I love this because we have this tweet, and just below it, We have Melissa A. Two months from now, we will find out this Jussie Smollett 2.0 fake.
She got 943 retweets on April 5th.
Lo and behold, on April 6th, Imaris Vera, the nurse in the video, clarified her experience
on Monday in a tweet, quote, we were each assigned one N95 per one COVID patient's room,
but was not allowed to wear it outside the room, wear our own N95 masks around the nurse's station or halls,
which I came prepared with.
adam crigler
Well, all of a sudden- That is not what she said when she was crying.
tim pool
All of a sudden the story is very different.
lydia smith
It doesn't sound bad at all.
tim pool
Well, see what she did.
She omitted that they actually gave her a mask and said, use this approved mask we have for you.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And she was like, I brought protection and they wouldn't let me wear it.
Was it like a Mickey Mouse mask or something?
Was it like a MAGA mask?
adam crigler
Right.
But she said right there that she used her own mask when she's in the nurse's hall.
But when you go into the room with the COVID patient, you use the COVID mask that they gave you.
lydia smith
Right, to avoid cross-contamination.
tim pool
That's why she was crying?
I wonder if it's the fault of the media or her because she admitted to it.
adam crigler
What, the next day?
Listening to her crying and what she was saying has nothing to do with the media.
She didn't tell the truth.
tim pool
And not only that, but she had quit apparently, taken like a hiatus to be an Instagram model or something.
At least that's the story that's been going around.
adam crigler
A, uh, influencer?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
As they're known.
lydia smith
I saw some pictures.
tim pool
And then, like, a day or two... Those people cracked me up.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
And then she comes back for, like, a day and then quits right away.
And so everyone's calling, you know, BS on this.
adam crigler
She's like, ooh, I can get some real big hits.
Some likes.
tim pool
But here's what's funny about the media.
CBS just adds a little tag to the bottom of the tweet, which no one will see.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm sure.
tim pool
And that's, like, sufficient for them to say they corrected it.
adam crigler
They're like, oh, yeah, whatever.
We acknowledged it.
tim pool
What ends up happening is it's conservative sites that pick it up and start sharing it.
So now if you're, so there's this really funny study that I've shared and progressives really hate it.
It shows that people on the left, liberals, typically only get their news from liberal sources.
Moderates take about 60% liberal sources, about 30-40% conservative sources, and conservatives, it's inverted, about 60-70% conservative and 30% liberal.
Conservatives do read left-wing news sites and liberal news sources.
So they've seen the fake news, then they see the correction, and they go, there it is.
The left doesn't.
They see the fake news and then they walk away.
And they never learn the truth.
adam crigler
That's all I needed.
Now I can go complain to everybody.
tim pool
Well, you saw what I was talking about earlier today with Trump owning a stake in that pharmaceutical company.
Yeah, right.
Man, this is so mean.
adam crigler
Like, 90 bucks or something?
tim pool
99 dollars?
unidentified
99 dollars.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
I mean, it could potentially be higher than that.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Like Market Watch did a fair take, saying... Well, actually, I'll give you the context.
I wake up this morning, and I'm scrolling down the Twitters, and I pull up the Reddits, and then they're over on good old rslashpolitics, which is supposed to be a place for normal discourse, the top post.
Donald Trump owns stake in pharmaceutical company that manufactures hydroxychloroquine.
And so, in the comments they're all like, I knew it!
The Daily Beast says, there it is.
adam crigler
There it is.
tim pool
It's like, we got him boys!
Busted!
Now we know why Trump is promoting this drug.
And then sure enough, even NeverTrumperGeorgeConway, like he hates Trump, tweeted like, oh come on, it's a minority stake through a mutual fund, this is ridiculous.
And I'm like, the media has become so desperate with their lies, trying to push back on whatever they can, Donald Trump's family has multiple trusts.
One of them has a stake in a mutual fund, which has 3.3% holdings in a company called, like, Sanofil or something.
adam crigler
So it's like a stake of a stake.
It's not even, like, an actual stake in that company.
tim pool
That's why they were saying it might be, like, it could be as low as $99.
Like, whoa, that's Trump's big play.
Billionaire Donald Trump.
adam crigler
Impeachment.
Yes, again.
tim pool
People are already calling for it.
adam crigler
I know, they already were.
tim pool
I'm glad to see.
So anyway, it's basically a mutual fund has a stake in this company.
It's like 3%.
And so there are other funds that Trump does have, which means his stake could be a bit higher, maybe like $1,500.
It's like, so what?
Is that a joke?
Like, Trump invested $1,000 in this company and then went on TV and promoted it?
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
So he can get a 10% return and make $100?
It's ridiculous.
You know, but that's why I wonder if it's the media's fault for not vetting this.
Yeah.
They see a viral Instagram post and they're like, run it!
And it's like, do you know who she is?
Who cares?
adam crigler
Who cares?
We'll get a lot of hits.
tim pool
Yup.
adam crigler
That's what they want.
tim pool
You want to know what the really messed up thing about media is?
adam crigler
I guess.
tim pool
If I put out a video right now that was titled like, proof Hillary Clinton is a lizard and turns into a lizard on camera and it got a million views.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I make money on that million views.
And then the next day I make a video saying, my bad, I was wrong about that.
It gets 30,000 views.
I make money on that 30,000 views.
Not only do they make money on the lie, they make money on the retraction.
So they're totally incentivized to do this.
Now, like I was saying, these lefty types will watch CBS and they'll walk away.
So these people are now actually believing.
I'm willing to bet you go talk to any one of your friends who doesn't really pay attention and they're going to be like, didn't Trump own the company that was making that drug?
And you're going to be like, ugh.
lydia smith
Thanks again.
So tiring.
tim pool
And that's what I deal with every day.
adam crigler
It's just to get the likes.
tim pool
Well, it's money.
adam crigler
Well, the likes equal money.
tim pool
I mean, like, you know, when Huffington Post wrote about it, they get, you know, 150,000, you know, 150,000, 500,000 shares or views or whatever on the article.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They made the money already.
Then a day later, they can just put, correction, the story was fake.
It doesn't matter.
They made the money.
They don't got to give it back.
Boom.
So here's what ends up happening.
I do these videos where I'm like, it's not true.
Trump doesn't own the stake.
And then they're like, why are you defending Trump?
It's like, oh, no, I'm not defending Trump.
I'm criticizing the media for lying.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a really funny skit called Stop Making Me Defend Trump.
Have you seen it?
adam crigler
No, I haven't.
I think you told me about it.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
It's from We The Internet TV.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
So they can look it up.
It's really good.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a guy who's in an office, and these two people are saying insane things about Trump.
And he turns around and he's like, I don't think that's true.
And they're like, why are you defending Trump, bro?
Are you a Trump supporter?
He's like, no, I just don't think that's true.
And they're like, yo, bigot!
And they start yelling at him.
That's how it goes.
adam crigler
It's how it feels.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, the funny thing is, too, like CBS... Here's why I think it's CBS's fault.
I don't trust them, man.
adam crigler
I think... I don't trust them either.
tim pool
They're given the opportunity to verify this woman and fact-check whether or not she's telling the truth.
adam crigler
Before they run it.
tim pool
Instead, they're just like, run it!
Story's already up there.
adam crigler
Look, she's crying.
That's juicy.
We'll get lots of hits.
Run it.
tim pool
Oh, the poor nurse.
But they recently used footage from an Italian hospital claiming it was New York.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, check this out.
adam crigler
So silly.
tim pool
I mean, many of you have probably already seen this because it was just over a week ago.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
How do they think they're going to get away with this?
You know, I guess too many people, it's funny when they rag on Fox News for having like old viewers.
Because Fox News actually has more key demographic viewers than the other networks like CBS, MSNBC, and CNN.
And so I think what's really happening is these networks that have older viewers, and to a decent extent include Fox News, They're never going to correct this on air.
CBS issues a tiny note on their website, oops!
adam crigler
Or on their Twitter message, like you said, we're good, we're covered.
lydia smith
That should do it.
tim pool
Man, it's crazy when I was at Walgreens, and uh the lady at the cashier we are walking up and they have all the social distancing stuff everywhere and she said something that was just so insane about like trump and his son and she's like wow you know the president's doing these things and i'm like
Like, it would take me so long to unwind all of these lies.
adam crigler
What spawned the comment?
Did she just, like, blurt it out?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
You walked up, oh, hello.
The president's doing this.
Like, seriously?
tim pool
Yes.
So they're doing the social distancing stuff.
And then it started with something like they had hand sanitizer.
And then I'm like, oh, you got some hand sanitizer.
And she's like, yup, well, we got to do what we can because I'm like, you know, the president.
Something like that.
I'm serious.
And I'm just like, And then it wasn't exactly that direct.
adam crigler
Excuse me, I've already checked out of this conversation.
I would like to pay for my goods.
tim pool
I just want Ben & Jerry's.
It's this chocolate in the middle and I don't want to talk about this right now.
I want to go home.
It wasn't that quick, but it was within the span of 30 seconds.
It went from Yeah.
I actually don't think it's that crazy that we're talking about coronavirus, the pandemic, all the things they're doing, and the president comes up.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But I can't remember exactly what she said, but I was just like, oh, that is just... It's like a lie layered upon lie.
adam crigler
You know what it is?
It's thirst.
It's people being thirsty.
It's gross.
I can't stand it.
It's like all I see is just all these thirsty people.
Like the influencers, they're just thirsty for attention.
The media, thirsty for that money.
tim pool
Really makes me want to quit.
adam crigler
The CEOs are thirsty for that profit.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Thirsty for attention.
The people who are addicted to attention.
It's like, man, y'all got to calm down.
And learn what it is to be human again.
tim pool
I've said this.
adam crigler
Because they're running rampant.
tim pool
You know, I am excited about getting banned from all social platforms.
Finally, just break the chain.
Let me get in my van and go fishing, man.
Let me leave.
adam crigler
Down by the river?
tim pool
Down by the river.
In the van.
Get a dog or something and just... Man.
I see these photos of these van life influencers.
I wanted to be able to take the show on the road, but it's really not possible.
And that's why we ended up doing this instead.
But hey, man, you want to come and ban me off this?
adam crigler
I hate... Hold on, hold on.
Sorry, sorry.
Please don't ban us.
lydia smith
Yeah, no, please don't ban us.
adam crigler
I really like my job.
I like the show.
lydia smith
It's fun.
adam crigler
It's great.
So, yeah.
Don't listen to him.
lydia smith
Yeah, really.
tim pool
No, it's like, for me, it's not about... It's really funny when they're like, oh, Tim wants his attention and all that stuff.
It's like, no, no, it's just... Please, no.
It's a passion thing.
It's an obligation thing.
It's like, I see something and I'm like, I really want to talk about it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And there's so much I want to talk about.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You vent like nobody else.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Cause I'm reading all this stuff.
You're a champion venter.
Right.
And it's, it's enlightening actually, you know, listening to your opinions on things cause they're, I'm a logical based person.
So I respect logic a lot and you are very logical.
So when you analyze the news and the media and the things that are going on, it makes sense from a logic standpoint.
And it's, I appreciate that a lot.
I'm sure that's why people like watching you too.
For that exact reason.
tim pool
What I think a lot of people don't realize as well is that I don't see me doing the stuff.
You know what I mean?
I read the news and I feel this way and then I complain about it.
adam crigler
But then, you know... But it's accurate, though, for the most part.
tim pool
Well, I don't watch Hannity, and I don't watch, for the most part, Rachel... I watch Hannity periodically for, like, relevant things.
I watch Rachel Maddow periodically for relevant things.
And so, I just see them and I talk about what I like or don't like.
But there are a lot of people who actually watch a lot of it, and then, when I see comments from people saying, like, oh, Tim, you do it better, I don't understand what they mean, because I don't watch myself.
adam crigler
You know, I just talk.
tim pool
I see what you mean.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're just doing you.
That's the great thing about you.
tim pool
Away from me, the point is this nurse lady, right?
adam crigler
I want to keep talking about you!
tim pool
Oh, I know, I know.
unidentified
It's great.
tim pool
Just keep talking about you.
adam crigler
No, no, it's fine.
Let's go.
tim pool
No, but she's a perfect example of what you're saying.
adam crigler
Exactly.
I know.
And it turns out she was trying to be an influencer?
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
And she went back for one day and made a fake video?
Duh, hello.
Doing it for the hits.
tim pool
Some reporter, I love it.
You know why people like Trump so much?
This is one reason.
When he rags on the press, the press doesn't understand how good that makes people feel.
True.
We just watched that clip where the journalist is like, I want to ask you about oil prices.
And he goes, where's it at right now?
And then the guy goes, well, my question is, no, no, no, what's the price?
adam crigler
I don't know. I'm gonna do research on that and he's like, okay, next.
Yeah, right.
unidentified
I have me laughing. That's funny.
tim pool
I've been in these press junket kind of things.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Where like, you know, I was in Chicago, they did some big arrests.
It's like a big activist thing.
The police chief walks up and then I'm sitting there and I'm just like, hmm, interesting.
And the journalists are desperately trying to think of something to ask.
Like, even if it's irrelevant.
And then you'll hear it, because everyone's yelling questions.
And sometimes people yell things, and you're like, what did you just say?
Because they don't know what to say, and they know if they don't have a question, they're not going to get a chance to ask.
adam crigler
Did you just ask what color socks he's wearing?
tim pool
No, but it's almost like listening to a bunch of Joe Bidens.
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
Words are coming out, but what your question was was completely nonsensical.
And then it's because the way it works is all the journalists will yell and the guy will go and then point at somebody.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then they'll ask a question.
But there are so many journalists I've watched where they're like, they ask the stupidest questions because they feel like they have to.
Sometimes there's nothing to ask, man.
Sometimes you're just good.
Just move on.
But it's similar.
So here's a guy at a press briefing, doesn't know what the current price of oil is, but wanted to ask about the current price of oil?
I don't know.
You wouldn't understand the answer if he gave it to you.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
That's what Trump was like.
I'm wasting my time with you.
tim pool
I loved it.
adam crigler
Next.
tim pool
I loved it.
He was like, well, I'll look into it later.
He was like, no.
unidentified
What do you mean?
tim pool
How are you going to ask a question?
I think he said something like that.
adam crigler
That was pretty funny.
tim pool
It was funny, too, when he called out the Chinese propaganda reporter.
lydia smith
God, dude.
I was looking that up, and the owner of the company she works for was a member of the CCP.
tim pool
Right, of course.
lydia smith
Yeah, and I was like, are you— It's private.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Anyway, as much as we've said it 50 billion and one times, media lies.
People are, you know, I look at it like kind of like a toilet, swirling around, making its way to the end point.
lydia smith
I don't know if I like this analogy.
tim pool
All of the, so the media is literal, like verbal diarrhea.
lydia smith
Debris, yes.
tim pool
Debris.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Spinning around, getting faster and faster and faster as it makes its way to the ultimate end point of just like, Bottom of the barrel?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Wouldn't it cause it to overflow though?
I think at some point.
media they're doing the exact same things. They chase after one-upping each
other. So that's why you end up seeing these weird...
adam crigler
Wouldn't it cause it to overflow though? No, it's going down. It's just flushing.
tim pool
It's too much. Yeah, I view it kind of like a, you know, to get away from the toilet analogy, like a whirlpool
that's slowly spinning faster and faster and it actually starts ejecting
people.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
So imagine you're a regular person caught in this, you know, whirlpool, and you're reading all this fake news.
adam crigler
I'm still envisioning a toilet.
tim pool
You're in the toilet, but eventually you start spinning so fast you get thrown out.
adam crigler
I'd be grateful.
I'm out of that toilet.
tim pool
Does that mean everyone?
like I think Alyssa Milano has has carried people. Okay. So she's tweeting right now like the Bernie
supporters and the Trump supporters all sound the same. It's like wow everyone hates you. Yeah. Like
maybe you should realize that. Does that mean everyone? Who do you think you're talking to?
adam crigler
She's uniting everyone. Well the Biden supporters are like oh please.
Yeah, Alyssa!
lydia smith
Yeah, there's like four of them?
tim pool
Yeah, right.
All four Biden supporters.
adam crigler
Look how many people are talking about Alyssa Milano still.
That's my point.
She's doing it for attention.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's it.
And it worked.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Yep.
Maybe that's why she did it.
Maybe she knew that it would be the attention she needs.
lydia smith
No one's been talking about me for a while.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
We have to do something.
tim pool
And she doesn't care about Bernie or Biden supporters.
lydia smith
She doesn't care at all.
tim pool
The establishment, I'm sorry, Bernie or Trump supporters, the establishment wants Biden.
She knows it.
So she knows she'll go to Hollywood.
There's gonna be some super rich, you know, Democrat guy is gonna be like, I don't care.
Good.
Biden.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No socialism for me.
Like I'm not, I'm not a big fan of Bernie for a lot of reasons.
I was before, but not so much as, you know, today for, he's not the same.
He's not the same.
And it's, and it's funny to see people like Rogan say like, he's so consistent.
I'm like, nah.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
adam crigler
He was.
He was consistent up until 2017.
tim pool
And then he started chasing after woke stupidity.
adam crigler
When he didn't get it in 2016, then it was like... But he even changed in 2016, man.
Yeah?
tim pool
Yeah, he used to fight for working class people, like labor unions, and all of a sudden he gets up on stage in 2016 and said, if you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor.
Plenty of white people that are poor.
never said that. I'm like, dude, he said it. Yeah, he did.
He said, if you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor. And I could see it.
Most white people in this country are poor. A majority of poor people are white. I
could see it in his face. He knew he was lying because he was desperately trying to pander
to these weird elitist activists.
And then he flipped up on guns, and he flipped up on immigration.
But anyway, the point is, you want to have an argument about policy, I'm totally down.
Here's my points about Bernie Sanders that I don't like.
I've talked about Trump and foreign policy.
Joe Biden can't talk.
I know.
It's insane.
There's nothing there.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a joke.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, how about we jump over to some Super Chats?
lydia smith
Yes, let's do it.
tim pool
And then the next segment we have is we're going to talk about how fat these body positivity people, for years, have condemned people to an early coronavirus death.
adam crigler
Oh, it sounded like you were saying, we're going to talk about how fat these body positivity people are.
tim pool
Oh, we'll be touching on that.
adam crigler
But then you continued on.
It's just kind of funny sounding.
tim pool
I wonder if you could go back in time today and go to these body positivity people and be like, I'm from the future, here's proof, you're killing these people.
I wonder if that would change their tune.
adam crigler
No way.
tim pool
Right, it wouldn't.
unidentified
They're gonna be like, you can be healthy and fat, healthy at any size.
tim pool
It's what they call it, healthy at any size or every size.
adam crigler
It doesn't make any sense to me.
tim pool
I think it's it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Cause I really hate skinny people.
So it doesn't seem like they're actually true to the any size.
They just basically mean like, don't make fun of me for being fat.
lydia smith
Right.
Because if, if it really were every size, then models could be healthy too.
And they spend all their time arguing that models are not a healthy weight.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We're going to hop over to the super chats.
adam crigler
I can actually speak on that, but we can talk about it later.
lydia smith
That is your expertise.
That's right.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Expertise.
lydia smith
Yeah, you did it for a living.
adam crigler
That's a loose term.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
Yeah, you're the expert.
adam crigler
I know, but I don't know if you know this about me.
I don't delve too deep into most things.
I tend to do my own thing.
tim pool
And this actually would be a decent segue afterwards into Birds of Prey because of how they made the women all frumpy and unattractive.
We'll get into it.
I'll save it.
adam crigler
Super chats.
tim pool
Here we go.
Meredith Stone says, Tim's channel going to be demonetized soon.
Patreon.
I will never use Patreon.
Patreon is a garbage platform.
Patreon's banned so many people, I don't even know what's going on.
adam crigler
I don't know anything about them.
tim pool
Yeah, they're just San Francisco ideologically driven, and so when it comes to political pressure, they'll nuke your channel without warning, and they'll shut off your income.
We can't function this way.
We need contracts.
Yeah, that's a good point.
lydia smith
Actually, yeah.
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says, China, we have no new cases.
Hong Kong and Taiwan, we have new cases.
World.
So China, do you say they are not a part of China?
Yeah, right.
This is a really funny thing that's been going around.
China keeps saying they have no new cases.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And Taiwan is like, we do.
unidentified
So... And Japan, too, is like... Are we a part of it or not?
Right.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, that's a good point.
tim pool
Because they try and say it is.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
I have never played Minecraft.
I have never played Minecraft.
adam crigler
Yeah, never.
I don't think I ever will.
tim pool
We're old fogies.
That's how you know it.
adam crigler
Yeah, if I'm gonna play, like, some 8-bit looking game, I'm gonna actually go back and play some of my favorites from the past that are actually 8-bit.
tim pool
I'm sure Minecraft's fun, you know, just because it's got like a retro graphic style.
adam crigler
Well, if I'm going to play a sandbox game, I'll play GTA.
tim pool
I like Besiege.
You ever play Besiege?
It's like you build little machines and then run people over.
So they're like little knights and they like bounce and try to break your machine and then you flamethrower and then they run away on fire.
Yeah, Besiege is awesome.
It's really, really great.
It's like an engineering game.
adam crigler
It's on PS4.
tim pool
Uh, computer.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a PC game.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
It's like an engineering game.
You can build flying machines and stuff.
I built one machine that, like, basically beats every single level.
Because there's different things you gotta do.
There'll be, like, a tower made of concrete, like a stone tower, and it's like, knock it down, and you have to, like, launch things at it.
And then there's some where it's, like, a bunch of little archers are firing at you, and you gotta, like, flamethrower them.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a really fun game.
adam crigler
Right on.
tim pool
Glenn says, my girlfriend is a nurse.
She was sick and tested for COVID, thankfully negative.
If I get it, it will be her bringing it home.
Doomsday prep time yet.
Man.
Riley says, hi, how are you?
I'm actually pretty good.
We had a good skate day, Adam.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, we did.
tim pool
You got the back disaster revert, which is pretty cool.
adam crigler
Revert out, yeah.
tim pool
And then you did the grind off the edge of the ramp, so it was a pretty good day.
adam crigler
Yeah, it was a good day.
tim pool
Yep, so we're doing alright.
David B. says, see Lewis Rossman YouTube, government screwing small businesses.
I guess we'll see how things play out after all this.
adam crigler
A lot of small businesses are going down because of this.
tim pool
Yeah, well not just small businesses.
We have one story, AMC.
Movie theaters say they might completely go under.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a crazy world, man.
adam crigler
I mean, who goes to the movies anymore anyway?
tim pool
Ward Spose says, Tim, Adam, and Lydia, hope you are well.
Stay safe.
Keep it the content.
Y'all are the last of the honest journalists.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
And it's like not even like we're doing- He's a journalist.
adam crigler
I just tag along for the ride.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's kind of just about being like a rational, giving a rational logical assessment of things.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Like removing emotion from it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like when you see Alyssa Milano say, Brett Kavanaugh, we don't need evidence.
And then Joe Biden, wait a minute, we need evidence.
You can see that like she doesn't actually make sense.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
She's lying.
She's just a con artist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, Gondam says Illidan is bae.
Someone got the reference.
Grabboid says, holy crap, Tim is back, literally in black.
That is, that is correct, indeed.
Merrick says, Adam, do you remember the time I beat your sliver deck by exiling your monosauruses and you died to your pact of negation upkeep cost?
I remember.
adam crigler
Who's that?
tim pool
Merrick.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, I do remember that.
tim pool
You do?
adam crigler
Thanks for the super chat, buddy.
My buddy in New York.
tim pool
You got eaten by your pact of negation cost?
adam crigler
Yes, I did.
You did it to me.
tim pool
Oh, because he got rid of your monosaurs.
Yeah.
adam crigler
It was brutal.
tim pool
That's great.
John Smith with the very, very clever point, Pim Tool.
adam crigler
I've never heard that before.
tim pool
I will consider that for future shows.
lydia smith
I like it.
tim pool
Conti says, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Eero says Trump cures cancer headlines.
In contracting economy, Trump renders thousands of oncologists jobless.
The funny thing is, the joke, the joke always was, if Trump cured cancer, they would find a way to spin it negative.
adam crigler
Of course.
tim pool
Trump literally said, hydroxychloroquine may work, it may not, I'm optimistic.
And what did the media write?
Trump pushes dangerous drug cocktail.
It's like, ugh.
And now New York and Australia is using it.
adam crigler
Do you hear about the Nevada governor hoarding it for inmates?
unidentified
Yes!
adam crigler
For inmates.
After banning it for- Banned it for the general public.
Do you want to tell it?
lydia smith
Well, so he banned it for the normal public.
Yeah, and then they found it in like a jail, didn't they?
unidentified
Stockpiles.
tim pool
In stockpiles.
lydia smith
I was like, what was he doing?
Like, why is it more important to protect the prison population than the people who have committed crimes?
tim pool
So, it's funny that they're trying to claim that Trump has got a stake in these manufacturers, but it's available in generic form.
It's the stupidest argument ever.
It's like Trump's pushing a generic drug That could potentially reduce symptoms because apparently I was reading that we know it's an anti-malarial, it has antiviral properties.
Trump isn't pushing a vaccine which can be controlled by a pharmaceutical company like many people actually are.
Trump is saying this might work.
And what does the media do?
Who are they?
Who are they in the?
adam crigler
Gorge Man bad.
tim pool
Well, no, no.
It's pharmaceuticals good.
Patent the vaccine.
We control it.
We make good money.
I was watching V for Vendetta the other day.
You know, basically V for Vendetta.
I'm not trying to say it's the same thing.
I'm just saying it's a movie where they bring up that the government manufactured a virus, then manufactured the cure.
adam crigler
Well, had the cure.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Had the cure.
adam crigler
And then released the virus.
tim pool
And then the people who controlled the stake in the company became extremely wealthy.
There you go!
I'm not trying to equate it to real life.
I'm just pointing out I was watching V for Vendetta.
adam crigler
Good movie though.
tim pool
Jack D says, Hi everyone, I'm hoping to join the Royal Navy soon.
Let's hope we've learned from the Spanish flu and they actually monitor us for any symptoms.
And don't forget to bring some limes with you, lest you get scurvy.
Chaos Smite says, The Epoch Times has released an hour video of the origin of CCP virus in detail.
Pretty interesting.
I'll check it out.
adam crigler
Yeah, interesting.
tim pool
Chrisman says, Tim, did you watch Wizards or Gandahar yet?
Of Gandahar?
I didn't.
Did someone?
What is that?
Have you seen it?
unidentified
No?
I don't know.
lydia smith
I've not heard of that.
tim pool
Nope, I just work all day, so I skate when I can.
Arthur Flower says, Tim, take off the beanie.
Grace us with your dome.
That is verboten.
We have to get a million live concurrent viewers for that to happen.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Share.
If we get a million concurrent viewers.
Alright.
Okay.
adam crigler
I'm gonna hold you to that.
tim pool
The space jump.
adam crigler
If we hit a million.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
A million concurrent viewers.
adam crigler
I'm gonna rip that beanie right off your head.
tim pool
Do you remember the Red Bull Space Jump?
adam crigler
No.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I think that was 4 million concurrent.
adam crigler
It was awesome.
tim pool
It was like the biggest I'd ever seen.
adam crigler
It was really awesome.
lydia smith
What about the launch of that rocket with the Tesla in it?
Do you remember that?
tim pool
No, but how many people were watching that one?
lydia smith
I don't know.
I was kind of asking you.
tim pool
It's cool though.
Think about the amount of data that goes out.
So if you're streaming at like Oh man, it's been a while since I've gone over streaming rates, but if you're streaming at like 2 megabits per second, let's say 4 because you're doing a really crisp high def, and it's streaming out up 4 and then down to a million people, 4 million megabits per second, it's just insane data transmission.
Alpha Wolf says, thank you, Tim, for all the great journalism you do.
Nope, no problemo.
I just kind of, you know, talk about my feelings.
JCAK says, so Jesse 2.0, wow, but we really need to get America back to work.
We don't, we don't want this to turn into, turn us into Venezuela.
Get testing ramped up for sure.
adam crigler
True that.
tim pool
Paul Cornelius says, have you studied the concept of the cathedral by Mencius Molbeg?
His thoughts on press universities, Democrat party might address lots of your angst.
Coresonic says, Jimmy Fallon is god-awful when interviewing folks on his computer, since he uses his built-in mic.
Oh, I know!
adam crigler
It's so bad.
tim pool
It's like, use your phone!
Your phone sounds so much better.
They don't know what they're doing.
adam crigler
And he's pushing out so much stuff that just is bad.
It's like, Jimmy, stop trying so bad.
tim pool
I mean, it's always been bad.
adam crigler
Yeah, OK.
He got better on his show, though.
It started off rocky, but he got better at it.
tim pool
It's just writers for it, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
It should have been Conan, man.
It should have been Conan.
tim pool
It should have been Conan.
AllMetalMike says, Tim, do you have colored clothes or light gray?
I do.
I have color-coded outfits.
When I skate, it's like a beige and brown.
adam crigler
Yeah, there's only two.
tim pool
Well, there's more.
What?
adam crigler
Wow.
See, I didn't even know this.
tim pool
Yeah, I have the green.
adam crigler
Oh, the green.
Right.
Three.
So there's three.
tim pool
There's a brown.
So there's a brown and beige.
There's a straight brown.
There's a green.
Yeah.
And I have shoes to match it.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
They're coordinated.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
James Coleman says, it's a proof that you can't disprove something.
It has no value.
Conversely, what would it take for you to vote Trump become Republican to oppose Dems?
I think the main issue with that question is like, I'm fairly ambivalent.
You know, it's like when Trump won, I laughed because, you know, all of these smug elitist Hillary supporters got comeuppance.
I didn't, it's not the end of the world.
I've lived through Republicans before.
I just don't care all that much.
And no matter who gets elected, Democrat or Republican, they're warmongers.
So I'll give Trump some credit because I think, to a certain degree, he's done less than Obama did in terms of foreign policy.
But he's still done the missile strikes and the weapons deals and all that stuff.
And that's the biggest, you know... I don't know.
He deserves some credit in dealing with some of these countries.
I don't know.
I think at this point, though, I'm like totally off the Democrats.
Because I was actually like, no, you know, I'll consider voting for, like, Yang or Tulsi.
Now I'm just like, not gonna happen.
Uh-uh.
I'm not going anywhere near those people.
adam crigler
Then Biden came out of nowhere and just, like, now he's the leading guy.
tim pool
The issue is, what is Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff doing right now?
They want to investigate Trump.
And that was like, are you insane?
Are you people literally insane?
adam crigler
Isn't that all they've done for the past four years?
So when are they going to actually work?
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
I've been curious, like, we have a major disaster on our hands and I have not heard, like, anything from them.
tim pool
They got nothing.
The only thing they ought to do is complain.
Complain about the Orange Man.
lydia smith
Are they trying to come up with solutions?
Are they trying to help people?
Are they fundraising or anything?
tim pool
The best Chuck Schumer could have done, the Democrats, is Chuck Schumer saying we need a czar to, like, oversee distribution.
We already have Rear Admiral Polowczyk who's overseeing it.
adam crigler
What we need is younger people in government.
tim pool
She's 80, dude.
adam crigler
There needs to be an age limit in government.
I'm dead serious.
lydia smith
Term limits, at least, for sure.
tim pool
Pelosi is 80.
adam crigler
And an age limit.
lydia smith
Both.
adam crigler
Term limits and age limits.
Once you reach a certain age, you just don't care.
lydia smith
You don't care about the future.
adam crigler
You don't care anymore.
Sure, if you have family that you want, but a lot of Congress don't have family.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think the reason why most people who vote are older, that's the biggest voting bracket, is because they do care.
adam crigler
I'm not talking about voters.
I'm talking about people in government already that have been there for 40 years.
tim pool
That's the problem with how the system works.
No matter what you do, it's people who want power.
That's all they care about.
There's a small handful of people that I think aren't just in it for the power.
adam crigler
And those are rare.
tim pool
Most of them are Republicans.
adam crigler
And actually Trump said this in his documentary.
I didn't watch it, but I was like, you know, Netflix auto plays a little bit of documentaries.
And he said something about the killer instinct.
You know, you either have it or you don't have it.
And most people in government have that killer instinct that they just want power.
They just want to go after it and go get it for themselves, not for the general public.
And that's the issue.
It's because those are the people that are in power.
tim pool
This is what I was saying about if I got banned from YouTube.
I'd be like, well, I'm gonna go off to the woods, you know, go read a book.
I'm not gonna cry about it.
But there's a similar thing where people refuse to give up what they have.
And there's a certain point where you've got to be like, some things aren't worth it.
You've got these influencers who will just do whatever, including lie and make up these sob stories to get more, to get more.
Because these people reach a certain point where they plateau and they can't figure out how to grow anymore and it's like maybe you can't.
Maybe that's just where you're at.
Maybe you should be happy with what you've got.
But they can't.
It's a thirst.
It's like they're vampires.
It's really funny how you have these lefty activists who say that greed is a mental illness because they just want more no matter what.
adam crigler
It feels like it, yeah.
tim pool
If you're working in government like Pelosi, what are you building or creating?
You're not.
way it's these people aren't doing it because they're like some people are
desperate for money they just want more and more and more yeah but a lot of
people are doing it to like build something and create something if you're
working in government like Pelosi what are you building or creating you're not
yeah you're literally just sitting there accruing power and wealth and
manipulating your position for power and wealth that's why I'm like if I look at
Bill Gates and he built a company he makes a bunch of money I'm like yeah you
know he did his thing I'm not, I'm not, you know, necessarily a big fan of massive wealth disparities and ridiculous wealth, but I'm not going to complain about it.
I mean, you know, people made money, but people in government.
They're just tricking people into giving up their power.
lydia smith
They're holding a job.
adam crigler
Basically.
tim pool
It's like, it's not just that.
Bill Gates made an operating system for all his faults and all of his dealings.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And people used it and it was beneficial and we use it right now.
And well, there you go.
He started this thing and now we all use his operating system.
It made computers easier to use.
adam crigler
But he also has a lot of foundations and does a lot of good stuff for humanity.
Sure, sure.
tim pool
Nancy Pelosi said, give me your vote and, you know, I'll make the government do things for you.
adam crigler
And I'll make the orange man go away.
tim pool
Vote for me again and I'll investigate him.
It's like, you're not actually doing anything for society.
You know what's funny is that they say that landlord isn't a job.
It's like, dude, a landlord does more than Nancy Pelosi does.
adam crigler
Someone Space Dodo just said to me, greed is part of the instinct of survival of self and species, and that's true.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
You know, so there has to be some sort of essence of greed in the sense that you have to take care of yourself.
Right.
tim pool
Now we're talking about, like, scale.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
That's true.
adam crigler
The sense of self versus the government, which is supposed to be for all of us, isn't it?
tim pool
Somebody who's like, I need to make more money so I can grow my business is different from someone being like, how can I lie to people to get their money?
So I look at someone like, and I don't mean to single out Pelosi on this, I mean like basically all politicians.
You've got someone in the private sector saying, what can I make that somebody's gonna want and they will trade me money for it?
In government, they're like, how can I trick someone into giving me their money?
That's like all government is.
adam crigler
Yeah, basically.
tim pool
I mean, I'm exaggerating for sure, because I do think there's a lot of good things that government does and has done.
I mean, the military, obviously.
Yeah, but I think there's a lot of social programs that do well, but all we end up getting are people exploiting the system, government, to gain power.
adam crigler
On both sides, too.
People exploit everything.
It's all of them.
tim pool
There's a small handful of people in government that I think are genuine.
Most of them, I think, are Republican.
lydia smith
I think I have six dudes, and they are, yeah, all to the right side.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Because they seem honest, like, consistent.
Rand Paul, he's the one who always votes against all this stuff.
He's that one dissenting vote?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Well, he truly is the son of Dr. No.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
I don't have to agree with him on anything.
Diplomatic.
even though I don't agree with him on everything.
lydia smith
Right, I don't have to agree with him on anything.
tim pool
Just because he really does stand up for what he believes in.
And then Dan Crenshaw's pretty good.
Tulsi's pretty good.
But if I was going to rate those three on a scale, I think Rand Paul is the most honest.
Tulsi is less so, but still substantially more honest.
Diplomatic, yeah.
So there's been a few things that Tulsi has kind of flip-flopped on and I've been confused by, but for the most part I think she's genuine and trying to do good and doesn't want to be a, you know, keys to the castle kind of person.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's grab some more of these Super Chats.
lydia smith
All right.
tim pool
Leor Egelstein says, seeing how the hospital ships are being used currently, do you think the U.S.
could invest in multiple fast-action hospital ships in the future?
I don't know.
Maybe.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Sounds pretty cool.
adam crigler
Why wouldn't it?
tim pool
I've heard bad things about them.
I've heard bad things about the hospital ships.
adam crigler
Like they're unsanitary, or they're too cramped, or what?
tim pool
Not that it's unsanitary necessarily, but like, they're not nice.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
So it's like, if you had to go to the hospital- It's like a wartime hospital.
Right.
Exactly.
And that's what they are.
Right.
So it makes sense.
tim pool
You do not want to be in one of these ships compared to like a nice hospital day.
adam crigler
True, but for the time when we need them, they're pretty great.
I think it's really cool.
tim pool
It's really cool.
adam crigler
Let's get them up to New York.
All right, New York's good now.
Oh, Philadelphia, they can bring it up the Delaware River and right to the city.
Let's bring it to D.C., you know, wherever they need it.
On the water.
tim pool
I play a bunch of Civilization.
They don't have hospital ships in Civilization.
adam crigler
Well, maybe it's not accurate.
tim pool
Maybe they should.
adam crigler
Maybe they should.
tim pool
That'd be a good thing.
Yeah, they have Destroyers, but we have ships that are just, you know, it's like, it reminds me of, or you've got the Destruction ships, and you have the Life ships.
adam crigler
It's cool, I had never seen them actually.
They're all white with, you know, the cross.
It's pretty dope.
tim pool
Well, it's supposed to be that's like international rules of engagement or whatever.
adam crigler
Like, you don't shoot down the medic.
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's funny because the activists in New York and across the United States, the street medics, they have the Red Cross.
And it is true.
Like, if you're in a foreign country in a conflict and you have the Red Cross, then combatants are supposed to leave you alone.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it depends on where you are, because some people aren't going to care.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But the funny thing is, like, I've seen cops grab medics and arrest them, and they're like, what are you doing?
I'm a medic!
And the cops are like, shut up.
Like, you duct taped a cross on your back.
I don't care.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's like, they think they're in war, so they're going to get special privileges.
But the ships, they do have it, and it's supposed to be like, don't attack the ships.
You know, it's always been the weirdest thing to me that we think people will play by these rules.
adam crigler
Right.
That's what I was thinking this while you were talking.
It's like, man, we're so comfortable in our bubble.
tim pool
Right.
It's like, okay everybody, we're gonna go to war, and if you lose, we're gonna kill all your people and take all your stuff.
lydia smith
Huh.
tim pool
But, here's the rules.
unidentified
There's rules.
tim pool
It's like, someone's gonna be like, okay, my existence is under threat.
I'll agree to your rules, and then behind your back, not abide by them.
And that's what we end up seeing in a lot of these countries is people don't care about rules of engagement.
And so the Americans, who are like Iraq and Afghanistan, are under these constraints.
We'll go to prison for like, you know, there's one story that's really contentious where a guy on a motorcycle got shot, so they said it was murder, and the guy said he was fearing for his life, and they said it doesn't matter, rules of engagement.
I'm not going to get into the full story because I'm not, you know, well-versed on it enough because people have pushed back.
But you have these people who will put bombs on kids.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And then what's the what's the US soldier supposed to do?
Because I was I was talking to some army guys about this.
And they're like, you're driving on a road.
And all of a sudden, there's a kid standing in the road.
And you don't know why or what they're doing, right?
And they have put bombs on kids.
What do you do?
adam crigler
Yeah, I can't answer that.
I have no idea.
tim pool
Well, the first answer is Americans should not be in Afghanistan and Iraq.
lydia smith
Well, that's a good start.
tim pool
Once you're there, I understand these, you know, the guys who are deployed there, you know, they're in the situation.
But yeah, like, you know, we'll grab some more.
Michael says, love the show, loved the one the other week about cats.
My girlfriend and I have five.
Newest one is a sphinx named Lusumphur.
Lusumphur, keep up the great work, you three.
Right now we are cat-sitting Betsy.
So the two cats, Emily's two cats are Betsy and Bucko.
Bucko lives here, and he's a silly, silly little eunuch.
He's got a variety of names.
Betsy, though, is this grumbling, snooty... It's just... Yes, she grumbles.
adam crigler
She creeps me out.
tim pool
She's creepy, dude.
So you're sleeping in your room.
I don't trust her.
You'll be sleeping in your room, and she will be in the hall, looking into your room, just like, with her head around the corner, staring at you while you sleep.
And you're like, I'll walk up and be like, What are you doing?
It's a creepy little thing.
adam crigler
I'm watching you breathe, human.
unidentified
Yep, and then she just starts going like... She makes that sound.
tim pool
She makes that sound.
adam crigler
She's sharpening her claws.
Yeah, I don't trust her.
It's creepy.
See, Boku I trust.
tim pool
He's just like... I trust him.
adam crigler
He'll walk in... And he doesn't like her, and I don't trust her, and I trust him, so it's like, yep, I get it, dude.
unidentified
I get it.
adam crigler
I don't trust her either, man.
It's on the same page.
unidentified
Cats.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
Alright, where are we at?
Lost Cold Soul says in Japan, life business as usual, except for on base going into semi-lockdown.
HP Khan Charlie.
Live off base here, soy juice is growing on me each day.
adam crigler
Oh, word.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Brian says deaths are at 1,770 in the US for today.
I think it is a new high actually, yeah.
They're saying I think the peak is gonna be like 3k dead in one day.
lydia smith
Oh man.
tim pool
There's a funny chart.
It's not really funny, but it's like, in the context of the people who don't believe this is happening, it was seasonal flu deaths compared to coronavirus, and the flu is like a wave that goes up and then down, and the COVID is like straight up.
Yeah.
I don't know what these people think, because it's like... Are people still comparing it to the flu?
Yes.
adam crigler
That's still a thing?
tim pool
And there are people who believe that it's a hoax.
And they've backed off a little bit, but some of these people, it's so annoying.
You think Donald Trump is in on this conspiracy with Boris Johnson in the ICU and Spain and the Democrats?
adam crigler
And Italy.
tim pool
And the Democrats.
adam crigler
And every country.
tim pool
They're all working together.
It's a globalist plot.
New World Order is here!
adam crigler
It's like, no, no.
tim pool
I looked up the deaths in New York, the latest numbers from 2017, and it's about 425 people per day die in New York State.
About 125 of the deaths are in New York City.
There was like 750 deaths in New York City in one day, like two days ago.
And in New York State, it was like 800, almost doubling the average from 2017.
If you think those deaths aren't COVID, then what are they dying from?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's like the Death Note.
That's the joke I made.
Like, there's a high school kid in his room writing down names like dun-dun-dun-dun.
If you haven't seen Death Note, you really should watch it.
But basically, it's about a kid who finds a book that when you write someone's name in it, they die.
And so it's like, it's really dramatic and he's like, dun dun dun, he's got like a god complex
and he's writing the names of every criminal down and stuff like that.
But I'm like, what do you think's happening?
And there are people who are like, I think they're over counting deaths.
They're taking people who had heart attacks and saying it's coronavirus.
Okay, well in 2017 we had 125 deaths, which included heart attacks.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Where are the extra people coming from?
Are they just like putting mannequin bodies in bags and then writing down coronavirus?
No, it's because it's happening.
And you know what's really messed up?
I am now seeing my friends on Facebook being like, yo, I got it.
This is bad, I messed up.
adam crigler
I have a few people that have gone through it.
Actually, some positive note.
One of them had it and is giving plasma to the hospital because she has the antibodies.
So that's a thing.
I didn't even know it was a thing until I read her post that like, look, she was all decked out because even though she had it, you can still get reinfected, I guess.
Because she has the antibodies built up, she was given plasma to the hospital, and that's a cool side of this that I didn't really expect.
I was like, two years, a year and a half to the vaccine, but if we can help by giving our plasma, if you have gotten it, and built up your antibodies for it, that's cool.
That's interesting.
tim pool
When this was kind of kicking into high gear around last month, I was like, hey look man, I'm looking at the stuff I'm seeing what these countries are doing and I really believe it because these countries don't shut down their economies.
Billionaires don't give up their money for no reason.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But it was still like I wasn't seeing anybody with it.
Now when I go on Facebook, people I know and trust and have known for a decade, two decades, I'm seeing their posts being like, I'm doing okay, just want to let you know.
I was positive.
Man, this is really brutal.
I was coughing up.
And I'm like, that's my friend telling me straight up what I've heard from other people.
adam crigler
My buddy who sent us a super chat earlier, he had it.
unidentified
Oh wow.
adam crigler
And got over it.
Thank the sun, you know?
tim pool
Yeah.
It's weird to me that people think it's being faked.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, what is it?
Donald Trump is doing it?
It's a conspiracy?
It's Trump's conspiracy?
That's so weird.
adam crigler
Out of sight, out of mind.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's it.
lydia smith
I guess something like 14% of people know someone who's had it.
So maybe it'll kind of catch on.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Michael says, all right, so we know what the Beanie and what Soy Jesus do in their free time, what does the Lady of Whiterun do?
lydia smith
What do I do?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
I like to go on walks, I like to garden, and I like to crochet.
Well, there you go.
Because I'm a very old woman.
tim pool
She is a very old woman.
lydia smith
That's true, I am.
tim pool
S-Head says, I hope everyone is staying safe during all this.
PSA though, if your girlfriend stops shaving during the quarantines and stay-at-home orders, she wasn't doing it for you.
unidentified
Ooh!
lydia smith
Oh, spicy!
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
Bill says unfortunately she's not wrong.
I'm on a physician group on Facebook and we have multiple stories of administration forbidding providers from wearing PPE.
Some to the point of ripping masks off people's faces.
unidentified
Oh wow.
tim pool
Why would they do that though?
adam crigler
Why?
Malicious people, dude.
tim pool
I've heard stories that it's like people freak out or something, like they get anxiety from seeing all the gear.
I don't know if that's true, but that's weird.
That's crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's weird.
tim pool
Jared says, Bill Vuong, you lie like a rug.
Oh, there we go.
Some spicy contention.
Talbot says, watching celebs try to YouTube is like watching a kid with a mixed bag of half-melted Lego Duplo Mega Bloks and a few random technic trying to build a car and smiling awkwardly as it doesn't work.
adam crigler
That's funny.
But they're having fun though.
That's the difference.
That kid is having fun.
They don't even seem like they're having fun because deep down they know this isn't right.
unidentified
I'll tell you what.
adam crigler
You can see it in their eyes.
tim pool
When it comes to YouTube, these individuals who have built up channels, it's because they're doing so many different things.
They're finding a way to monetize it.
They're learning and improving.
The people on shows like The Daily Show, it's a huge collective of people You know, all trying to lift this one thing up.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So the hosts have no talent.
A little bit.
adam crigler
Yeah, some.
I've seen Trevor Noah's routine.
He's pretty, he's got some humor to him.
tim pool
But when it comes to trying to be a host for a news and politics show.
adam crigler
Live, also.
You know, it's a much different situation than like a pre-prepared, you know, exactly how to, when to hit those punchlines, you know, all the different, you know, segments, whatever.
tim pool
I would not do stand-up.
I've actually had agents hit me up, like big-time agents, be like, how would you like to host, like, a show that's, like, kind of comedic?
I'm like, are you insane?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they were like, oh, you could do it, you're funny, right?
And I'm like, yeah, maybe, like, off-the-cuff sometimes I'll make a quip that's funny, but I am not a comedian.
adam crigler
Right, right.
tim pool
Why would you even bother?
And they're like, they write it all for you, they do... I'm like, nah, nah, nah.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
But that's what they do on these shows, it's like... Yep, exactly.
Does Trevor Noah actually know anything about this stuff?
Does John Oliver?
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
It's the weirdest thing to me seeing, like, John Oliver.
I'm like, you don't know what you're talking about.
He's funny, but it's his show that's funny.
The very first one.
He is funny, but it's his show that's funny. No, it was the first episode was funny
But now it's very first one. Yes, because it's every show is identical. That's true
It's like it's what is a it's current year and little Timothy over here
Now some people might say I'm biased because he uses my name all the time. But no, no, he literally is joking
He'll be like, you know, the politicians are complaining, but little Timothy over here in 2020!
And it's like, yes, we get it, John.
It's current year.
That's the meme.
It's current year.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Every, the formula for those shows is the exact same.
You watch Samantha Bee, you watch Trevor Noah, you watch John Oliver.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's all the same.
tim pool
John Stewart did an amazing job.
adam crigler
Yeah, he was great.
tim pool
And then they tried to replicate it with generic plastic figures.
adam crigler
I miss John Stewart.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
He was awesome.
tim pool
He said something recently, several months ago, it was probably last year actually, that the reason the media keeps smearing and lying about what's going on is because Trump goes after their ego and they take the bait.
They fall for it.
They're very egotistical people.
And so they end up trying to get him instead of just reporting and it plays into this narrative that they're fake news and they're lying because they are.
adam crigler
And it's got worse and worse and now look where we're at.
tim pool
And you know, Jon Stewart praised the president on the 9-11 victims fund and all that stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, I remember that.
When that happened, that was awesome.
tim pool
We used to have people like Jon Stewart who had no problem saying things like, you know, here's why Trump is bad, here's where he's good.
Today, they won't even praise him for that.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's either black or white.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
No in-between.
tim pool
The first really bad thing was George Carlin, when he passed.
The floodgates on the SJW stuff broke open without his leadership.
And then Jon Stewart retired, and then it's like all been falling apart.
We need some younger thought leaders, you know?
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Gregory says, if AOC had stocks in a solar panel company, she would be praised for putting her money where her mouth is or something ridiculous like that.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
DJ says, hey Tim, how are you?
How you doing, my beanie man?
Question.
What can I, as a truck driver, do to avoid the media frenzy on all this two-faced lying?
Yeah, that CBS thing I was talking about that to my father and mother, lol, was so fake, haha.
I don't know, man.
adam crigler
I don't know either.
tim pool
I read the news every day for a living, and I don't get it all right.
Definitely not.
adam crigler
And this talk of these YouTubers that are being cut off, it's like, if it were to happen to us, I would want to continue this.
This is fun, and I get a lot of my information from you.
tim pool
That's why they would want to cut it off.
adam crigler
I know a lot of people watch your stuff too and you know because of that because it's like a legitimate or at least it feels legitimate you know for most people and it is as far as I'm concerned you know it's like a good like viewpoint that that you do say this is what's good this is what's bad you were just you know commending Jon Stewart for doing that and you do that you know so there are a few people that do it you know so it's I think that the big challenge I don't think I don't think they're gonna cut you off because We'll see.
I don't know.
I don't think it's going to happen.
tim pool
Back during Occupy Wall Street, I was doing a live stream from the Financial District.
We were by the Stock Exchange.
And I was filming all these protesters and the police were arresting people.
I had thousands of viewers, probably like 30,000 live viewers.
And the comments live were flooded with a bunch of conservatives and stuff.
And I had a bunch of lefties say, Tim, you need to get a moderator to ban all of these people because they're just trolling.
And it was conservative saying like, you know, F these commies and stuff like that.
And I just was immediately like, I'm not going to ban any of these people.
They can say whatever they want.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
My only concern is if they're spamming the chat so no one can chat.
adam crigler
Or if it's bots, you know, right?
It's like spam.
Then get rid of it.
tim pool
Spam is not free speech.
Spam is restricting free speech.
speech. I was like, if people come in here to make fun of me, like, I'm all
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
about free speech. So do your thing.
adam crigler
They're still here talking and watching me.
tim pool
And they were like, hey, you're all right, Tim.
Like, I'm like, dude, I want and encourage you to come in.
I remember I got raided one time by a bunch of I was I was filming a Trayvon
Martin thing and a bunch of conservatives raided.
And I guess they thought that they were because like they probably didn't know
And they probably thought they were getting some like activist stream.
And I was like, wow, this is really, really cool that all these people are coming in and expressing themselves and talking about how they feel about this.
You know, like I'm down.
adam crigler
And they're like, Oh, they're like, Oh, wait, you're about this?
Like, all right.
tim pool
I'm just filming.
I think right now there's a lot of people online that are so worked up.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They conflate the subject of an interview, the subject of, of a story with like support from the journalists themselves.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I partially blame journalists for this, but it also is the fault of individuals for thinking this.
Like, if I did an interview with somebody and they said something stupid, I would get flak for it.
Like, they would blame me because somebody else had a bad opinion or got something wrong.
And so I've interviewed people on the left and the right, and I'm like, what do you want me to do?
I'm not doing these videos like, this person is 100% correct all the time.
I'm like, here's an activist, here's what they believe in, here's what they're saying, and here's why they think this.
And if you think it's wrong, good.
So, you know, for the most part, it's, I'm gonna say it, it's typically the left.
adam crigler
Well, you keep saying though, back to the super chat, that you're gonna get cut, you're gonna go to a river down by the river in your van.
tim pool
It is half of a joke.
adam crigler
Okay, so you would still try to figure out a way to make this happen.
tim pool
Well, yeah.
I wouldn't immediately be like, oh, there we go, I'm out.
But I wouldn't be, if I was forced out, I'm not gonna cry.
I'm not gonna, you know, oh, what was me?
I'm gonna be like, what's next?
The challenge is that YouTube owns the space.
Completely owns it.
And they are turning it into network television.
One step at a time.
So maybe we'll make the cut.
There are some YouTube channels that they like.
They do seem to like me for the most part.
A lot of these people who are getting cut don't have access to Google personnel directly.
I do.
There's me and a few other people.
Yeah.
We are getting negatively hit.
They're algorithmically deranking the channel.
They're censoring.
That's why I'm not confident.
I don't know why.
You know, I have direct contact with people at Google.
And so they're like, we'll work with you if we make mistakes.
And for the most part, they've actually helped me.
So whenever I get demonetized, it's like an oops, that wasn't supposed to happen,
but it's too late.
You get demonetized, you get demonetized.
But they'll come in and manually override it, so I don't know if that's them pretending.
I don't know what it is.
I really, really don't.
I'm willing to bet that if I did not go on Joe Rogan last year, I would have already been dropped.
But going on Joe was a big boost for me.
I gained like 100,000 subs on each channel after going on Rogan's podcast.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
And then I think that gave me a big enough boost and like a snowball rolling down a hill to where my channels got big enough to where YouTube kind of backed off.
But I had already been given guideline strikes.
I had already had videos removed and stuff and forced out.
We'll see what happens.
I try my best to work within the system, but at a certain point, I refuse.
There's been some restrictions where I got really, really close to being permanently banned already.
Like Voldemort, the CIA guy whose name I can't say.
adam crigler
Yeah, I remember you made a video about the guy and they took it down a dentist who had the same name
tim pool
Oh, that was Facebook, right? Yeah. Okay, you can't even say the name
Yeah so I I was very very close to being permanently banned
entirely off the platform because I was going to war over that I was
like Fox News has said it C Spanis said it ran senator said it
right you're right and they were like no and I was like I Basically said I am going to upload five videos
that each are nothing but ten minutes of me saying his name to all of my platforms and
And I backed down.
But I was really close to lighting the fuse and being like, I'll make a statement.
I will get myself purged completely to make this point.
We'll see.
The problem is...
At a certain point, would it be a good idea for me to actually do that?
To nuke all of my channels, because it's over a million subscribers, to make a political point about the right to freedom of speech.
Sacrifice my income, my job, my livelihood, to make that point.
Or would it be worse, because now the next several years of content I could have produced breaking through the fake news have been removed?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So that's the choice I had to make, and ultimately I was like, in all honesty it's the easy out.
I could nuke everything and go with a full free speech, I refuse to back down route, but that means no more content from me ever.
Or I could back down and not say this person's name, and then keep my job and keep working.
But there will come a time where I think YouTube's gonna push me and I'm gonna be like,
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
tim pool
you've pushed too hard, I refuse.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think they're hoping that they can keep pushing and I'll just give in on every step of the way.
We'll see what happens.
I'm hoping that the tide shifts a little bit eventually, but I'm not entirely convinced.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Who knows?
adam crigler
I guess we'll see.
tim pool
Yep.
Champ says, can we see the female talking?
You can't.
But we do have a camera, we just have to... It's a quarantine, man.
You know, we're all getting ready, like, we're gonna get the camera set up.
I'll be real.
You know, Lydia talks a lot more than we thought she would.
She's allowed, like, it's not like... I do, yes.
Yeah, it's cool, you know.
lydia smith
I talk a lot.
tim pool
Yeah, we appreciate it.
adam crigler
But we initially... Yeah, when you're not stuck in chat.
lydia smith
Yes, it's true.
I like to talk to them too.
tim pool
Well, we were setting it up.
I was like, we definitely got to make sure Lydia has a microphone so that she can, you know, chime in and do sources and fetching and stuff.
And then everyone's like, you need to get a camera.
And we're like, oh, we'll definitely get a camera.
That's great.
And then the quarantine happened.
And now we're just like locked in our house and, you know, people are getting arrested.
So stupid.
Yeah.
Tanya says, Tim, please start your own platform for free speech, ad, and Carole Baskin.
Oh, I can't read that.
I don't know who that is.
Talbot says, beware young prince, for violence may only work well once, or a revolt will follow.
Beware old media, your model may only be used rarely, lest trust falter.
Paraphrasing ol' Machi, read the prince, folks.
Sa says, my mother is nearly 70, spent 30 years as an ER nurse, and the last 20 years as a small business owner and OC hospice nurse.
She is considering going back to the ER to help and was irate at the quitting nurse.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
DJ says, Henry is good, but I love Tim.
He keeps me going as a truck driver.
Trump for life.
Diesel is at $1.80-ish a gallon.
It's great.
Time to move cargo.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow, man.
adam crigler
That's really cheap.
tim pool
In the Midwest, it's like $1.70 for a gallon of gas.
adam crigler
I know, but diesel used to be cheaper.
Then it went higher.
In general, that's really cheap.
Hey, fair warning.
A lot of people are trying to super chat the name.
Voldemort.
Voldemort's real name.
tim pool
Oh, really?
adam crigler
So, just fair warning.
tim pool
Is it getting banned or something?
adam crigler
No, just be careful.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
So you don't read it out loud.
tim pool
Yeah, so, just so you guys know, if I say the name, this stream will probably just get turned off immediately.
adam crigler
Yeah, so, fair warning.
tim pool
Like, 30 seconds later, it'll just go, and it'll be gone.
adam crigler
I've seen it, so... Yup, I've seen it too.
Yeah, well, I mean, I've seen the name, so just be careful.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
We are getting absolutely inundated with these superchats.
adam crigler
Hey, thanks for being here, everybody.
Appreciate you all.
tim pool
And that was a big jump.
We're gonna have to speed up in a little bit.
I'm trying to figure... It's very difficult because when YouTube makes this big jump, I have no idea where we were.
adam crigler
Yeah, basically loads a big chunk of comments.
tim pool
There we go.
lydia smith
Swim upstream.
tim pool
All right, I found it.
Joey Eagle says, Trump is real and gets to the point.
I don't like how all is handled, but we need to stop footing, you know, pee footing around, take care of us, and then move forward for sure.
I will mention the good thing about Voldemort's last name is that it's so specific to actually say.
It's very easy to spot before you read it.
rat and locust plagues, crop failures, et cetera.
If model is correct, 30 plus years famines.
You know, I will mention the good thing about Voldemort's last name is that it's so specific
to actually say, it's very easy to spot before you read it.
adam crigler
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Aaron Garcia says, I work as a pumper in the oil field.
Let me tell you, I'm addicted to Tim.
Shout out to Lydia.
Thanks for working the cameras and entertaining us in the chat.
Love you guys.
Appreciate it.
Jacob says, Adam, that dog comment yesterday wasn't meant to offend you.
Very few places eat them.
You are passionate about veganism, and that's appreciable.
Conviction is a dying trait, and I respect yours.
adam crigler
Thank you, man.
tim pool
Here, here.
adam crigler
Appreciate you.
tim pool
Paul says, Macedonia for the Macedonians.
Stop the Greek occupation and harassment of Macedonia and Macedonians.
Macedonia for the Macedonians.
I will also say of Adam that he is correct in your conviction.
When Adam skates, Committing is, so when it comes to skating, there's a few factors in getting a trick.
Committing to the trick is very, very serious, meaning like you're in the air, the board's flipping, and you have to focus and say, I'm going to do it.
One of the biggest things that skateboarders will back away on is not committing to doing it, and they'll bail, meaning they'll kick their board away.
Adam never bails.
He commits to literally everything and then falls and gets back up and like, nope.
He would rather take every risk to get it done and just slam.
That's conviction.
adam crigler
You guys can see my skate videos.
I skated professionally for Arbor Skateboards of California for a while and, uh, made a few videos for them.
So, I mean, they're kind of outdated and I, I don't really skate long boards anymore.
I was more, I started as a long boarder.
Now I, I only, uh, classic skateboard popsicle stick.
And, uh, it's so addicting.
Now it's really hard to go to a long board once you get the technique, the techniques of, uh, you know, a short board is so much more fun, I think.
tim pool
Skateboarding is super addicting.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
Because it's actually really easy to get a new trick and a new accomplishment every day, and you get that dopamine release every time.
adam crigler
I got it a couple times a day.
Yeah.
I love that ramp.
tim pool
We got a little ramp in the back.
Adam nailed a back disaster revert, which was perfect.
adam crigler
Yes.
It's a good ramp.
tim pool
All right, let's see where we're at.
adam crigler
But thanks, Tim.
Appreciate you, man.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
Caleb says, the stream keeps blinking off and coming back on seconds later, completely skipping minutes of the convo.
Happened twice.
Love the stream.
Keep it up.
Really?
adam crigler
That sucks.
tim pool
I don't know.
It could be because there's some weird frequency issue going on.
Andre says, check out Dave Rubin's tweeting.
Who insane?
Rep talking about removing people from their homes.
Whoa, really?
We need guns to protect ourselves.
Who equals neo-Nazis?
The World Health Organization has got a lot of criticism coming their way.
Tony L says, Tim, I just learned that Reporters Without Borders made a Minecraft server so they could get around the banning of news articles and such.
I thought this was a cool thing to share.
Yeah, that story's really awesome.
adam crigler
I heard about that.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
tim pool
Yeah, they put it in a Minecraft server.
Sean says infection rate in New York has declined since March 19th.
Yes.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
New York has been talking about social distancing is working.
adam crigler
That's great.
tim pool
Yeah, and the numbers are going down.
This is good news.
I think we might get through this much sooner than a lot of people thought.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We'll see though because it'll come back once we reopen things.
What does it say?
Key Toth says, Here's to Lydia of Whiterun, sworn to carry our burden.
For she is our sword and our shield.
Until she took an arrow to the knee.
unidentified
Wow.
Nice.
tim pool
Albie says, Hi y'all.
Hope y'all are doing well.
Idaho is shut down and I can no longer go into work until further notice.
Bummer.
NA says, that is also the plot of Deus Ex.
Why contain it?
The Hazmat says, tried to watch one of those pro-China YouTubers.
Couldn't do it.
Got an evil clone anti-Tim vibe.
Doesn't even have a beanie.
Well, that's how you know it's evil.
There's no beanie, man.
Oh, you can't do it.
The Moen says, Tyson Foods has just shut down production facility.
Several other large company food plants have been infected, but not yet shut down.
Be aware.
Oh no!
That means chicken!
lydia smith
Attendees!
tim pool
You know, it's funny, because we were talking about this too, like, so many people are going to inadvertently become vegan.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
What food stores, very, very, rice and beans store very, very easily.
adam crigler
What's perishable?
Meat and dairy products.
tim pool
Meat and dairy products.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's very hard to store.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
There will be some salting, some jerking, some pickling.
adam crigler
Some, some what?
tim pool
Some jerking.
unidentified
Ah.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, jerk meat.
adam crigler
Jerk meat.
tim pool
Yeah, like jerking?
We're going to see people jerk meat like crazy.
adam crigler
I just wanted to hear you say it again, because it's funny.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
unidentified
I like it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
For the comments.
tim pool
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
If there is naughtiness in your mind, it's on you, not me.
lydia smith
No, I don't know what Adam is talking about.
tim pool
We have tons of jerky.
adam crigler
We've got a variety of... There's vegan jerky, too.
tim pool
Vegan jerky.
adam crigler
Really good stuff.
tim pool
The mushroom stuff is pretty good.
It's like pressed mushroom.
adam crigler
I've always loved jerky.
For those wondering, I wasn't always vegan.
It's probably the past five years, I guess.
tim pool
There's two things that people bought.
The New York Times wrote, the bean industry is booming.
And beans last for years dried out in bags.
People are gonna be eating beans and rice, man.
They're gonna be inadvertently vegan.
lydia smith
Good stuff.
tim pool
Here we go.
Lucian says, Hey Tim, if you ever want to play an absolutely filthy commander deck, you need to make a goblin commander deck using Krenko Mob Boss.
I do, yeah, well I have Krenko in my Purphoros, which is like a fairly stock Purphoros, and it's pretty bonkers.
It's a ridiculous deck.
adam crigler
His decks are bad enough.
The power level is getting crazy.
tim pool
Johnny says, I think we've heard that from other countries too.
A lot of people get it and they don't exhibit symptoms.
were asymptomatic. I think we've heard that from other countries too. A lot of
people get it and they don't exhibit symptoms. Yeah.
Hollow Man says watch Demolition Man 1993 a funny look into our future.
That's good, I like it, yeah.
Alright, I'm gonna start speeding things up, unfortunately, because we're getting absolutely inundated with superchats, but I appreciate all of you guys.
lydia smith
Much appreciated.
tim pool
Chubby says, looking for good entertainment, check out Gravesend.
Streaming on Amazon Prime, Mafia drama.
I love your podcast, look forward to it every weekday.
I don't wear beanies, but I'll buy a bunch.
Once the quarantine is lifted, we're gonna have beanies.
adam crigler
Once the store opens up, that I've found.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Let's see, Elier Loaded says, have you looked into ID2020 and Bill Gates' involvement in the virus?
I'd like your take it.
I mean, I'm assuming you mean take on it.
I'll check it out.
I think, you know, some people are posting on Twitter that Bill Gates has done this genuinely philanthropic thing trying to help assist.
And because the internet has become such a pessimistic place, they assume there's just something nefarious about it.
Sometimes.
adam crigler
It really is a pessimistic place.
lydia smith
It is, yeah.
But, yeah.
tim pool
All right, we'll have to speed things up.
Albie, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Ryan Stewart says, counter-argument to term limits.
If I want to keep Rand Paul in the Senate because I like him and his principles, why shouldn't the states have the right to elect who they want?
That's a good point.
adam crigler
That is a good point.
tim pool
Martin, thanks for joining.
Jay Mack says, nothing has made me more libertarian than serving in the U.S.
military, starting my own business and having kids.
Government can take care of the background stuff, but I don't count on people who don't know me to have my best interests in mind, for sure.
Here we go.
Max says, Wow.
Pim Tool, soy Jesus disembodied goddess.
Here in Cheyenne, Wyoming, we've had about 30 confirmed COVID-19, but my employer has
already issued employees paperwork for any possibility of quarantine.
Wow.
Charles says Republicans lead while Democrats rule.
Big difference.
Sean Ryan says a YouTuber called Audioholics got COVID at the end of February and is still
I don't think people are getting reinfected.
I think they're staying infected.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
What if it's like a permanent thing?
Some people just never get over it.
adam crigler
Until the vaccine hits.
But isn't it doing damage on the lungs?
tim pool
And potential heart damage now they're saying.
adam crigler
Great.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Callum says, my GF and I have been living at my grandparents' country farm for a month now, and y'all made us feel less weird for leaving a big city when we did.
Keep on keepin' on.
I'm looking at farms right now.
unidentified
Smart move.
tim pool
We're like, can we get to a farm?
lydia smith
Can I steal a farm?
tim pool
Yep.
The problem is internet.
Getting good internet for a broadcast show.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ethan Hunt of Mission Impossible says, Tim, what do you think about Dr. Cameron Kyle Siddell?
He is saying something that other doctors here in Europe are exposing in social media, but then platforms are removing their content.
Yup, because the social media platforms have a consensus and there have been doctors and news stories which have been censored.
Like the Washington Post talking about the lab in China got demonetized and confirmed.
Knocked down.
What am I supposed to do if the Washington Post says it?
Cliff says, Trevor Noah is a really good stand-up comedian.
Jim Jeffries used to be as well.
It seems all these good comedians start becoming unfunny when they start following U.S.
mainstream.
Because they are bending the knee to woke authoritarianism, which just isn't funny.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
TheCoolCore says, yesterday's cast Adam said eating meat is bad, clogs arteries.
That might be true.
All bad and excessive.
Doesn't soy lower your testosterone?
No issue with you.
Sis in her teen got face rash vitamin deficiency because cuz became vegan.
adam crigler
Well, I guess there's a few different things there.
The last part is a lot of people don't realize what it takes to fuel the human body.
There's a lot of nutrients that even non-vegans don't get very well.
Everyone has to find what they need for their own body.
If you're going to go vegan, you have to eat a lot more, for one.
You have to, you know, sometimes take supplements.
And, you know, it's different.
And then the soy thing, it's like, actually, you know, Tim was telling me that soy products actually raise testosterone because there's less estrogen, or it's like a different kind of estrogen.
Go ahead, you explain it better than I do.
tim pool
I'm not a nutritionist, but I was just reading it's phytoestrogen, I think.
Which is a weaker form that blocks the receptors so the natural estrogens in your body do not hit the receptors.
Right.
And that actually lowers the effect of estrogen on your body.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
So this whole rumor is actually... Well, it's a meme, you know.
tim pool
Some people have tried to confirm it.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
tim pool
The reason why these soy boys at BuzzFeed and stuff are low-T is because they don't exercise.
They're not active.
adam crigler
Yeah, there's too much variables that aren't in any of the memes and the rumors and all this stuff.
It's just like, I do it for me.
I am healthy.
I eat.
I'm above my weight, actually.
And I exercise and I do my own thing.
So, is it your daughter?
Is his daughter? His sister. Oh, so you know your sister just do some research. You know, it might not even just be
the fact that she went vegan.
It could be that she just wasn't getting the right nutrients after going vegan.
You can't just eat, you know, the take the meat portion out and just keep eating that. You have to like amplify
everything.
Yeah. And find out what works for you.
That's the key.
tim pool
I think Rogan was talking about that, actually.
He said that there's certain densities that you don't get outside of meat for certain nutrients.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So it's not just about eating something different.
It's about eating more of things.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like certain things.
adam crigler
To make up for the lack of the nutrients you're no longer getting from meat sources or dairy sources.
tim pool
This is a good opportunity to jump over to our next segment.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess you're right.
That's a good point.
tim pool
Here we go.
Oh man, what a world we live in.
Two fat professors, they had to say that, are afraid of COVID-19 causing fatphobia.
All right, first of all, let me just show you this from the CDC website.
Groups at higher risk for severe illness.
And you can see people with severe obesity, body mass index BMI of 40 or higher.
adam crigler
Well, 40 or higher, that's really severe.
tim pool
It is, it's big, it's big.
And so this is people who are at risk for COVID.
So right now, we were talking about this and we were like, somebody's gotta do a video on this and just call out these body positivity obese people who have like, they've encouraged this bad behavior which is now getting people sick and hurt.
So here we have this story from April 5th.
Campus Reform says, well here's a picture I guess, two University of Wisconsin-La Crosse professors who call themselves the Two Fat Professors, oh that's literally what they call themselves, there you go, are concerned that coronavirus is causing fat phobia.
Darcy Thune, author of Am I Fat, you are, in the International Fat Studies Handbook, what?! !
lydia smith
Oh, those fat studies!
I forgot. Yes. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
tim pool
Recently published a blog post on the website to fat professors dot com.
The piece titled Diet to Culture at the End of the World outlines Thune's opinion regarding weight gain during the
covid-19 crisis.
To their credit, they will they will to a certain degree survive longer than, say, like the soy boys because of the
energy stored in their body.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But they're going to be out of, out of, out of shape.
lydia smith
They can't run.
tim pool
So, right.
So when the critters, the, the, the large beasts come hungry, they're going to find too plump, slow, but here's the good news.
Can I say a bad joke?
An off-color joke?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
The good news is that you don't have to run faster than the bear.
You just have to run faster than the two fat professors.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
That's true.
adam crigler
All I can think of is every zombie movie, there's always that big zombie.
Or the big person.
And they're like, well, the zombies will get that person.
And they do.
tim pool
Okay, here we go.
They say... Thun wrote her piece, Diet Culture at the End of the World, in response to the many number of posts that have popped up on her social media sites addressing fears about weight gain.
According to the professor, these posts shame viewers for not going to the gym, for eating too much, for getting fat, and for not starving ourselves at the end of the world.
and are representative of a problematic diet culture.
The blog post repeatedly refers to those who are cognizant of their weight
as part of a diet culture. Thun criticizes those who speak out against weight gain
and characterize it as dangerous, saying they feed into a system of fat phobia
that oppresses and abuses so many. Oh man.
I think the author is portraying something that isn't an issue.
Brandon Misich, a sophomore at UW-La Crosse and campus reform correspondent,
told Campus Reform, You know why I take the biggest issue with these of all of
the SJW weirdos?
adam crigler
Please.
tim pool
It's a choice.
adam crigler
Yep.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I was watching, there's a commercial that airs on Fox all the time, and it's like, it's like, are you overweight and struggling?
It may actually be due to a condition called insulin resistance, and if you take this medication or whatever, and I'm like, that just means you eat too much sugar.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
It's like, I watched this show, I can't remember what it was, But there was this woman who was really overweight, and all of these people kept saying that the reason they were overweight was because of genetics, and they were adamant they didn't even eat that much.
And so they were asked, like, how often do you eat?
And they wrote down, like, for breakfast I have this, for lunch I have this, for dinner I have this.
adam crigler
Now, how often do they exercise?
No, no, no, hold on.
tim pool
Go on, go on.
In what they wrote down, they said, like, for breakfast I have, you know, like, two eggs and, like, some toast and a bowl of oatmeal, for lunch I have a sandwich, and for dinner I have a small, light, you know, dinner.
And so, looking at it, they're like, see?
It's only at 1700 calories.
It must be genetic.
So, they filmed them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and guess what?
adam crigler
They ate all the time.
tim pool
Non-stop.
All day, they were eating.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They would be like, they would eat their breakfast, just like they said.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then, like, half an hour later, they'd walk in the kitchen and grab, like, a bag of chips and just start eating chips.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And then they'd have lunch, like they said, and they would walk in the kitchen and grab some snacks and some cookies.
adam crigler
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
And so they were confronted, and the doctors were like, this is what you said you ate today.
And they're like, right.
And they're like, what about all of this?
And they showed the videos, and they're like, I was just snacking.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And they were like, you snacked like 2,000 calories.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like each of those cookies was like 100 calories.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And they're like, oh, no way.
adam crigler
The snacks have calories?
unidentified
I know, who knew?
tim pool
You know what, man?
adam crigler
Oh, man, that's funny.
tim pool
Look, I'm all about freedom.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
If you want to eat cookies all day, do it with my blessing.
I do not care.
But the people who want to call you an oppressor because you don't eat cookies all day, or because you would tell someone, I'm concerned about your health, these people are insane.
So, there is going too far.
For instance, Milo Yiannopoulos, fat shamed guy at the gym.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
And I'm like, what?
adam crigler
Why would you do that?
tim pool
At the gym.
adam crigler
He's actually working out, trying to better himself.
tim pool
Yeah, you should have taken a picture with him and been like, this guy's doing it right.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
This guy, you know, he's doing it right.
And whatever.
But then there's the inversion, which is, she's claiming it's a weird diet culture, shaming people for not going to the gym.
adam crigler
That's so weird.
tim pool
Go for a walk, man.
Breathe some air outside.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I mean, it does wonders.
tim pool
What's really cool right now about the shutdown is the air is so clean.
lydia smith
It's nice.
tim pool
Dude, we were looking outside in the backyard and we were like, whoa, look at all the stars.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, whoa, could that be because like Philly has no smog right now?
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
You can actually see stars.
tim pool
There's still light pollution, but it's like all clear.
adam crigler
It is crazy the amount of stars that I can see outside.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's awesome.
tim pool
Shall we get to the conspiracy theory?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, let's go.
tim pool
Are you all ready for this?
Wait till you see just how deep this fat conspiracy goes.
Oh man.
adam crigler
Now... I don't even know if we said it was a conspiracy, but... It is now!
It's a conspiracy!
tim pool
I'm just putting on a show, buddy.
adam crigler
I know, it's great.
tim pool
It's wonderful.
Just getting the theatrics going.
adam crigler
It's great.
tim pool
Now, I myself enjoy a good pint of Ben & Jerry's.
Heck yeah!
They've actually got an almond milk version now.
It is vegan.
And there is the delicious creamy, and you know what the craziest one they have is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
The Core.
You ever see the Core Ben & Jerry's?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Absolutely insane.
adam crigler
Don't they have a social justice one, too?
tim pool
It's disgusting.
adam crigler
Well, that's not really surprising, though, is it?
tim pool
It was spicy brownies.
adam crigler
Oh, God!
tim pool
We got it and I'm like, I'll try the Justice Remix and I ate it and I'm like, why is my ice cream spicy?
adam crigler
So you think it's sweet, but then when you try it, it's actually really fiery.
tim pool
And you know what?
It says spicy on it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But this core one they have, it's liquid brownie batter in the middle.
It's just like liquid.
It's kind of frozen.
But yeah, it's like batter.
So you're injecting sugar straight into your veins.
Never have I encountered a dessert so insanely fattening.
adam crigler
I'm not, you know what, I'm not that big of a sweet kind of a person.
I don't do sweets very often.
I like savory stuff more.
tim pool
Well, but the conspiracy.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
tim pool
Well, you know, we enjoy Ben and Jerry's.
adam crigler
I know, you guys were sitting there geeking out on ice cream.
I figured I'd have some to say.
tim pool
Check this out.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
tim pool
What do we see?
Okay, you can't really see it, but you can see right here.
What does that say?
Ben and Jerry's parent It says Unilever, a British-Dutch transnational consumer goods company.
They're the parent company for Ben & Jerry's.
lydia smith
I wonder who else they're a parent company for.
Now, hold on.
tim pool
Hold on.
Do you remember the Real Beauty campaign, which is one of the first campaigns about being proud to be fat?
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
By Dove Toiletries, the soap company.
adam crigler
I do remember that.
tim pool
Now, who owns Dove?
lydia smith
Oh, I don't know.
adam crigler
Tell me, Timothy.
tim pool
Unilever.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Conspiracy theory!
adam crigler
Yup.
tim pool
The parent company knows that they've got a bunch of fat women who eat their ice cream, who feel bad when they use beautiful skinny models.
So how do you keep them buying your soap and buying your ice cream?
Real beauty campaign.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Dove comes out, shows all these plus-size models, and then sells them Ben & Jerry's.
I know, I'm kidding.
I really don't think it's a conspiracy.
I think Dove... You know what I think is really happening?
Americans are just typically fat.
Like 40% of Americans are overweight.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And so the reason why you're seeing fat superheroes, mostly women, like it's like really fat female superheroes, is because they're trying to cater to the people who are fat.
adam crigler
Seems like it.
tim pool
It's really this simple.
If 10% of your population is fat, it's a small market share.
And so people aren't going to market to them because it's not a path towards a successful business.
When 40% of your population are, don't be surprised when these fat professors come out and start saying that you're fatphobic and you're an oppressor.
The reason why so many feminists are agreeing with it is because they're fat.
They're fat and they want an excuse for why they don't have to be responsible for their weight.
But I'll make sure it's clear.
I don't care if you want to eat pizza and ice cream all day and you get fat.
I care that you're trying to claim I'm oppressing you by not doing that or by encouraging healthier living.
adam crigler
Right.
That's a problem.
tim pool
Yeah.
Were you gonna say something?
lydia smith
Yeah, this made me really mad when I was losing weight because they were turning me into some kind of oppressor because I was actually trying to lose weight and actually kind of succeeding at it slowly.
It's very slow process.
It requires a lot of adjustment and it requires a lot of like going against the grain because all of these people will tell you you're being oppressed if you're trying to lose weight or worse yet you are oppressing other people.
tim pool
I think it's really simple.
I think We used to have a culture of striving to be better.
Now we're a culture of participation trophies.
adam crigler
Striving to be mediocre.
tim pool
It's not just that, it's like, what they're saying is literally a participation trophy.
adam crigler
Striving to be comfortable.
tim pool
Think about what a participation trophy is.
Just for showing up, you get an award.
lydia smith
It's not even just that.
It's like striving to be a victim.
You're trying to be the bottom of the totem pole.
And then you'll get all these points and this sympathy.
And you really, I mean, you've overcome a lot or whatever.
You've had a lot stacked up against you.
tim pool
What a weird pendulum swing.
lydia smith
So strange to me.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Remember when Barack Obama said the American dream is to be Donald Trump?
lydia smith
I do remember that.
tim pool
He said that, right?
lydia smith
I think he did.
Lots of rappers did.
I remember that.
tim pool
See if you can look it up because it might just be a meme that someone made up.
adam crigler
There's a bunch of songs talking about being rich as Trump.
lydia smith
Yeah, man, I want to be like Donald Trump.
tim pool
Did Obama say it?
adam crigler
Oh, I don't know if Obama said it, but I haven't heard it before.
tim pool
Now it's like... Listen, it really is.
I mean, not only is he a billionaire, but he became the president.
I know, it's like... Say whatever you want about the guy.
adam crigler
Where does he go from here?
lydia smith
So, Snopes is calling us a mixture.
tim pool
Oh, which means it's true.
adam crigler
Oh, I don't... Wait, you actually use and trust Snopes?
lydia smith
Well, it was the first thing that came up, so I was like, eh.
Snopes.
tim pool
What do they say?
lydia smith
Snopes.
tim pool
Are they gonna do the meme?
lydia smith
Oh, let's see.
Thanks, Obama.
tim pool
They're going to say, mixture.
While it is true he did say it, the image that was used in the meme is not true.
lydia smith
They do start one of their sentences, while.
unidentified
Oh, you really?
lydia smith
Yeah, the final sentence is, while some of these articles clarified Obama's meaning in the text, the headline claims presented were a mischaracterization of their argument.
tim pool
So he said it.
lydia smith
Pretty sure he said it.
I'm pretty sure.
There you go, Snopes.
tim pool
Whatever, man.
adam crigler
He didn't say it while eating ice cream.
tim pool
Yeah, that's really the... But what's the context they're trying to bring up?
Like, Obama was insulting Trump or something?
lydia smith
As one example of this pragmatic approach, Obama suggested reframing the quest for racial equality as part of the American concept of equality and opportunity.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
I don't understand what they're trying to say.
tim pool
Snopes is just doing Snopes.
lydia smith
They're writing poorly and I hate them.
tim pool
So, we get Snopes.
He did say it.
lydia smith
He did definitely say it.
Alright, there we go.
tim pool
So yeah, you can be a rich guy like Trump, and they hate him, and they're the antithesis.
They strive to be bad at everything.
It's incredible.
adam crigler
And they're proud of it, though.
That's the weird part.
tim pool
We used to have superheroes that were proud of being bad.
I know.
adam crigler
Or fat.
lydia smith
Well, they put it in their profile.
It's not healthy.
They're like, I'm disabled, and I'm poor, and I'm this, this, and this, and I'm on food stamps or whatever, and I'm like, What is there to be proud of here?
tim pool
What are you talking about?
adam crigler
I want your sympathy.
tim pool
So you that's what I've seen. You had fascists in Europe that were like Uber Uber men supremacist
types that were like everyone must be this perfect way. Now you have an inversion of that where
they're like we're all pathetic losers with brain problems and we're overweight and victims.
And when you get a regular person saying like, I'm really sorry this is happening, you know, perhaps you could try exercise.
lydia smith
Yeah, you could try this.
tim pool
And they call you a fascist now.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because to them, you being a regular person advocating for a healthier living and exercise is like the same distance from regular person to the fascist.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Basically.
tim pool
Like they've pendulum swung so far to the direction.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
A regular person saying, would you like to go for a walk with us?
How dare you?
unidentified
You know I cannot walk more than to my car anymore.
tim pool
Now they have rascals at Walmart.
That's the craziest thing.
We got these wheelchairs at Walmart so if your leg was broken or you were old, we'll help you out.
adam crigler
Every single time I've ever seen someone use it, it's a fat person.
It's true.
Maybe once I saw an old guy using it and I was like, Yeah.
tim pool
Cool, man, but but hold on I get it. You know what I Look that was supposed to be for somebody who was you
disabled or whatever. Mm-hmm I still really don't care if it's a fat person riding
adam crigler
around that. Yeah, that's true. I don't either I'm like, whatever man if you can't walk and you need it.
Yeah, okay sure But but we should be allowed to say it's not healthy
tim pool
Sure, it's not healthy. But this and even even that it's like I don't need to go around telling every fat person
Elizabeth White.
adam crigler
Did you take the presidential fitness test in school?
tim pool
No.
What?
Oh, maybe.
adam crigler
So that was a thing when I was in school when I was younger.
You know, you take a physical fitness test and it was like the presidential standard.
And, you know, you would be compared across every school in America.
It was this thing, you know, back in the 90s.
And I don't know, I was, you know, they take your body mass, you know, the weight.
tim pool
Oh yeah, they pinch your arm or whatever.
lydia smith
BMI.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like, you would see how you rated, you know, if you were above or below average and whatnot.
And it's like, they stopped doing that.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Why?
Why?
Why did they stop doing that?
Because we don't care about if our kids are healthy anymore?
tim pool
Participation trophy era, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess so.
tim pool
So these are people who think that they're being victims because they eat too much.
Like, dude, no.
lydia smith
That is the opposite of a problem.
tim pool
It's like, if you want to talk about racism, dude, I'm down.
I hear you, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
There are some people who are just bigots.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
You know, racism is a big problem.
lydia smith
You can't change your race.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
There are things that you can't change and you don't deserve.
unidentified
Well.
tim pool
There are some people.
South Park did an episode about this.
I'll avoid getting us in trouble on YouTube.
adam crigler
But anyway... Don't get us in trouble.
lydia smith
Sean King?
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Well he just claims it and then... I mean... But everybody hates that guy.
lydia smith
That's fair.
tim pool
You know what?
It's called, like, thin privilege.
adam crigler
Thin privilege?
The funny thing is, they have this- There's all sorts of privileges.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
They keep tacking on more.
tim pool
They don't know what the word means.
adam crigler
Thin privilege.
I've never heard that one before.
tim pool
Actually, I think what these people are experiencing is fat privilege.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
tim pool
So, they can eat whatever they want, whenever they want.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They're not responsible for their own health.
adam crigler
They only have to buy one airplane seat.
I don't get it.
tim pool
They want us to pay for their health care, and then they claim to be the victims.
Talk about privilege.
adam crigler
That's exactly what privilege looks like.
tim pool
I'd love to sit around doing nothing but eat cheesecake all day.
Actually, that's not true.
It would not feel good.
adam crigler
No, that doesn't sound good to me.
tim pool
I think one of the issues is, with a lot of people who are overweight, I wonder if the problem is that they're trapped in an addiction cycle, because eating too much doesn't feel good.
But I will tell you, if I eat too much, I can't skate.
It's like, oh man, I can't move.
And then you end up not skating.
So you have to like, eat only a little, then you can skate, you feel real good, you get that, you know, you get a runner's high if you're running or whatever, you get the dopamine from accomplishing your goals, and then exercise actually suppresses your appetite.
So you get trapped in a cycle where you're eating and it makes you feel bad and you don't want to get up and move around and then you just feel bad.
adam crigler
So you eat more.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, this is a good opportunity to segue over to the next intersectional.
Want to rag on Birds of Prey?
lydia smith
Of course.
adam crigler
I mean, it falls right in line, doesn't it?
It sure does.
It's glorifying... what is it?
unidentified
Mediocrity?
adam crigler
Yeah, I guess mediocrity.
tim pool
Glorifying mediocrity.
Well, so the next segment we have is Birds of Prey.
Kathy Yan says, Undue expectations for Birds of Prey were an extra burden on her.
lydia smith
Oh no!
tim pool
Is that why the movie did bad?
lydia smith
Sympathy!
tim pool
Did it make money?
adam crigler
It did, made some.
tim pool
Do you want to look up the Wikipedia for it so we can see what's box office results?
lydia smith
It did not do zero dollars.
tim pool
I think it was a flop though because the marketing budget was really really high.
So here's what's bounding into comics reports.
Kathy Yan spoke on the performance of her big studio debut, Birds of Prey, which floundered in its opening weekend and swiftly made it to digital VOD in the wake of the ongoing pandemic.
lydia smith
That's a nice way of putting it.
tim pool
That's not fair, though.
adam crigler
It had nothing to do with the pandemic.
It was going straight to video.
tim pool
No, no, no.
adam crigler
That's why it's not fair.
I just want to clarify.
lydia smith
Yeah, let's clear that up.
tim pool
I hope by now, none of you have- I normally would say like, by now you've probably seen this movie.
No, most of you probably haven't, but you never cared about spoilers anyway, so this movie was awful.
adam crigler
Don't go see it.
It's not worth it.
lydia smith
You can't now anyway, right?
tim pool
No, you can't.
adam crigler
We're all in... Well, now it's on video, isn't it?
I'm sure you can download it.
No, no, I've seen it on Amazon.
It's on Amazon.
You can download it.
It's like, don't waste your money.
lydia smith
Don't do it.
tim pool
Here we go.
You ready for this?
adam crigler
Don't do it.
tim pool
She told The Hollywood Reporter everyone was pretty quick to jump on a certain angle after the film's lack of success and added she had an extra burden on her as a woman of color.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
She said, quote, Yeah, I think that if you actually look at the details of
the budget breakdown, I know that the studio had really high expectations for the movie,
unidentified
as we all did.
tim pool
There were also undue expectations on a female-led movie, and what I was most disappointed in
was this idea that perhaps it proved that we weren't ready for this yet.
That was an extra burden that, as a woman of color director, I already had on me anyway.
So yes, I think there were certainly different ways you could interpret the success or lack of success of the movie, and everyone has a right to do that.
But I definitely do feel that everyone was pretty quick to jump on a certain angle.
You know what's funny?
adam crigler
She's covering her bases.
tim pool
Well, this is absolutely in line with the previous segment we just did on obese people and body positivity stuff.
A refusal to accept responsibility for your failure.
adam crigler
Boom.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's all it is.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
You nailed it.
tim pool
The movie sucked.
There you go.
adam crigler
She doesn't want to say it.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
unidentified
It's been fun.
tim pool
Yeah, the movie sucked.
It did.
adam crigler
It was a bad movie.
I wanted it to be good.
I went into this watching it thinking, please be good.
I didn't mind Suicide Squad.
It was entertaining.
I went in thinking, this might be entertaining.
I don't understand how, and it just got worse and worse and worse as the movie went on.
tim pool
Well, a really good example of one of these weird things they did was the women were kind of frumpy.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So there was one scene where Huntress is looking in the mirror trying to like say her name, and it's Mary Elizabeth Winstead who is very attractive.
But they dress her down and they made her look bad.
It's like, look, any person who wakes up and rolls out of bed is not going to look good.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Everyone, you know, will trim their beard.
Every man will.
Well, not every man, but.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't trim my beard.
tim pool
You don't trim?
adam crigler
It just, it comes and then I get rid of it.
tim pool
It comes and goes.
adam crigler
That's how I do it.
That's how I do it.
tim pool
Well, the point is people groom themselves.
unidentified
That's true.
lydia smith
Yes, we do.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
adam crigler
Hold on.
No, I don't.
tim pool
Everybody takes care of themselves to some degree.
unidentified
Woah, woah, woah, woah.
adam crigler
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just trying to egg you on.
tim pool
But in this movie, they have this scene where Huntress is, like, rolled out of bed.
And I thought it was strange because, yeah, there's actually a photo set this woman did, and I don't think it was a feminist thing, Yeah.
But she took pictures of people and then took pictures of them with like pushing out their guts and like mashing
their chins and making nasty faces.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So that people can see like how you can make someone look really good with proper angles.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You've done, you've done, I did one photo shoot for a magazine and it was so incredibly painful.
Have you had those experiences with photo shoots?
Where they're like, arch your back this way, put your arm like this, now don't move for 20 minutes?
lydia smith
I feel like Adam probably has, right?
adam crigler
I've been wearing a wool suit in 110 degree weather.
And I've also been soaking wet on a glacier.
And I'm told not to be in a sled while snow was being thrown at me.
So I've had both extremes.
Yeah, it exists.
It sucks to devote yourself for the role that you're hired for.
tim pool
What they did in this movie was... I'm not trying to be mean to these women.
I'm just trying to point out...
The reason why we choose escapism, why we go into fictional fantasy worlds, is to live better, to experience things that we can't normally experience.
So when we play video games, when we read comics, when we watch movies, we want to see the super ripped Captain America guy jumping off a building, falling 20 stories, and then rolling out of it and going like, ugh!
And you know, he's showing how strong he is.
Right.
There's a thing they describe in comics, like Batman.
He has no superpowers, but he has peak human efficiency.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Like, he's the best a human could possibly be.
And we like that.
He's achieved some greatness.
You know what I really like in comics is I like characters who don't have powers.
Who have earned it.
Who are extremely skilled, have technology.
I like Iron Man, I like Batman.
And what I like about the MCU is a lot of the characters just have technology.
adam crigler
That's true, yeah.
War Machine also.
tim pool
Yep, Falcon.
adam crigler
Black Widow.
tim pool
Black Widow.
Hawkeye.
They're regular people.
And they're superheroes.
adam crigler
That's a good point, I really like that too.
tim pool
I like it, I do, I do.
And some of them have powers.
Watchmen was cool.
It was basically about, well not the new one, but the movie and the comic, it's about people who are superheroes and they just wear masks and fight.
So that's cool that we're looking at the best a human could possibly be.
Birds of Prey was not that.
It was frumpy, overweight, out of shape, failures.
lydia smith
I was watching this movie and I was like, well, they're making me feel better about how I look when I get up in the morning, but that's not what I'm here for.
Like, I can just look in the mirror.
tim pool
I guess what I'm trying to say is, you know, do we have a superhero movie with a bunch of fat dudes?
Like out of shape men who can't run very fast?
adam crigler
The blob was a bad guy in the X-Men universe.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's the only one I can think of.
That wasn't a hero, though.
tim pool
That was a mutant power.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a good point.
tim pool
Like, he was indestructible, apparently.
lydia smith
Well, nobody liked Thor when he was overweight.
tim pool
Right, why would they?
That's a good point.
They tried to do that.
lydia smith
I don't know why they did that.
tim pool
And it's not...
Some people said it was actually cool, and there's a good point that- I didn't mind it.
Well, with the dreadlocks, it actually looked more like a real Norse Viking would actually look.
lydia smith
That's fair.
tim pool
Instead of, like, this weird, vendy muscle we do for Hollywood.
adam crigler
Well, it really just looked like he let himself go.
And that's what was happening in the film, because he blamed himself, so he let himself go.
tim pool
Right, it was actually part of the plot.
adam crigler
Long, curly hair dreads, naturally.
I have long, curly hair, and I've got dreads in my hair sometimes that I need to Get rid of, you know, as I said, I don't really take care of my hair.
Just kind of shove it in this beanie and that's it.
That's all I do.
tim pool
I don't, I don't get it.
It's almost like we've talked about it before.
They tried to do like a female Deadpool, right?
And you were saying that they make these choices where they feel morally justified and making unentertaining and unappealing content.
adam crigler
I wanted this, I still want this movie to be better than it was.
Because I actually think of all the movie, was her name Margot Robbie?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
She's the main character.
She did great.
I thought she could be a female Deadpool if they did it correctly.
But they didn't do it correctly.
They made it all cheesy instead of gritty.
I wanted it to be gritty Gotham.
This is, it was Gotham!
I'm honestly just realizing that that was Gotham.
Like, what?
Wait a minute.
You know, it's like daytime Gotham.
Like, oh, that's why it doesn't make sense.
tim pool
The movie is just bad.
adam crigler
Like, I wanted grittiness.
tim pool
Full on Huntress made no sense.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The costumes were like low budget trash.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They, uh, so apparently the short, fat little Asian girl was Cassandra Cain, who's supposed to be Batwoman.
And this actually- Wait, seriously?
Batgirl or something like that, yeah.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
And it offended a ton of, like, SJW-type comic fans.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Because Cassandra Cain is, as I think Batwoman, has a mental illness.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Or is like neuroatypical.
And so they basically removed her and created this chubby little Asian girl who in no way is Batwoman and people were angry saying that they just ableist washed or whatever they call it.
There's no way, look, they think they're morally justified to making bad content with frumpy characters that are unappealing because it's morally right.
No, dude, I want to see a dude who's like doing stupid things like Fast and the Furious.
I want to see The Rock hold a helicopter by a chain and pull the helicopter off from a cliff.
It's ridiculous.
Or Captain America holding the helicopter in Winter Soldier.
adam crigler
Less silly.
tim pool
It's still silly.
It's so silly.
But it's supposed to be.
It's a movie.
You don't need to make them, you know, busty, big titty, you know, women in skimpy clothes.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But the way they did it was like, it looked like they rolled out of bed to like make a point about beauty or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I actually really don't want people who look just like me.
I don't want it to be relatable.
I went for a story, something different and interesting.
tim pool
In Deadpool, you had that dude who was friends with him.
You know, I'm talking about T.J.
Miller, I think his name is.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Is that a name?
And he was like a crusty bartender.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's fine if somebody, if the character is meant to be gross or whatever.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But that makes you kind of look down upon them.
You hold them in a certain light.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
Like, Deadpool is gross and funny and he gets like bullet holes through him.
And you don't actually see him, but he's in a costume.
Why would, like, the people we're supposed to be rooting for be degenerate, filthy, mongrel types?
It doesn't work.
Yeah, I don't get it.
It can work.
But it's so thick, what they've done.
I was watching and I'm like, I know what they're doing.
I know what they're doing.
And they even mentioned it.
I feel like at some point they talked about how they didn't want to make them attractive.
adam crigler
Like, do they have a reason?
tim pool
Why, why, I, because it's feminism.
lydia smith
Something about the male gaze, I'm sure.
tim pool
Patriot.
lydia smith
I'm not going to get anybody's gaze at this rate.
adam crigler
Well, it was rated R so that you couldn't get young girls, even though I saw in all the malls when I was in the young clothing shops, the exact same outfits that are skimpy and small.
But it's a rated R film.
Who is your demographic?
Who?
tim pool
Frumpy feminists on Twitter?
adam crigler
Well, no wonder it bombed.
That's a small window.
I'm not saying anything about those people, but if that's all you're catering to, and you're expecting the comic book Batman, the Joker fans, that's not what this movie was.
It was not for them.
tim pool
Have you ever seen the episode of South Park where the hippies throw a festival in South Park?
adam crigler
I don't think so.
tim pool
Have you seen this?
lydia smith
I don't know.
I don't recall.
tim pool
So hippies start showing up to South Park, and Cartman freaks out.
and he tries to go and exterminate the hippies or something ridiculous.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
He gets arrested.
The people who are running the city are permitting the hippie jam fest.
They eventually realize the hippies are overrunning everything
and there's too many of them.
And they go and talk to Cartman about like, why are you trying to get rid of the hippies?
And he was like, don't you understand they're going to take over and they're going to have a hippie festival that'll last forever.
And the mayor goes, that'll be great.
We could use the extra money.
unidentified
And he goes, hippies don't have money!
tim pool
And so that's what I see here.
They make a movie catering to a tiny fringe sect of weirdos on the internet who don't care to actually see the movie.
And then they wonder why no one sees it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
They think Twitter is real life, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
And it's not.
Thank God.
unidentified
It is not.
lydia smith
Oh, thank God.
tim pool
No.
Yeah, real people are like, what did I just watch?
Like, we walked out confused, like, do I ask for my money back?
Yes.
Can we make the box office numbers go down after the fact?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
I've actually tried getting my money back after seeing a movie.
lydia smith
How'd that work?
tim pool
They told me to F off.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And I was like, but the movie was bad.
They were like, yup, lots of movies are bad.
I was like, yeah, it's a good point.
adam crigler
You got me there.
tim pool
But this was definitely, I mean the scene where she like squats on the roller skates and then Banshee screams at her butt and projects her forward.
What were they thinking with this man?
adam crigler
It was really silly.
lydia smith
It was awful.
tim pool
But not silly in a good way.
adam crigler
No, I know, you're right.
tim pool
You know, like, there was one scene where Harley dropkicks a dude.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It was badass.
When she's fighting him.
adam crigler
There was a slim couple times where it's a cool fight scene.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Like, the evidence lockup.
tim pool
Exactly.
That's when she does it.
She dropkicks the guy.
And I'm like, that's cool.
adam crigler
Oh man, that might be the only good fight scene.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So they definitely tried doing like the Harley's gymnastic, you know, acrobatic ability in fights and stuff.
It just didn't work out.
Like when she raids the police department, nothing makes sense.
adam crigler
And she's shooting everyone with glitter bombs.
tim pool
Why were they trying to make it for little kids but rated R?
adam crigler
And nobody shot back at her.
lydia smith
Yeah, in a police station.
adam crigler
They were like...
Who's this person in the police station?
Oh, Glitter Bomb!
tim pool
It was rated R. She should have just used regular bullets.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
And killed people.
Instead it was like, Glitter Bombs!
It's like, what?
I understand they're trying to go for the Harley, you know, aesthetic.
Laughing gas, Glitter Bombs, and beanbags and all that silliness.
That just doesn't work.
lydia smith
Just kind of makes me feel like they're infantilizing women.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't like it.
tim pool
I thought it was terrible.
Well, how about we do one more and we talk about Jack Dorsey real quick.
adam crigler
Yes, I do want to talk about this.
tim pool
This is awesome.
Because we'll get to the Super Chats next.
We'll probably go a little bit longer than we usually do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But this is actually a really cool story.
adam crigler
This is worth talking about, for sure.
tim pool
And I think Jack is an okay dude.
My respect to him.
adam crigler
I mean, I don't know him.
I don't know anything about him.
This is the first thing that I know about him.
Other than the fact that he started Twitter.
That's it.
tim pool
Jack Dorsey is not Mark Zuckerberg.
Right, so Mark runs Facebook.
For all of their problems, it comes down to Mark Zuckerberg.
Jack Dorsey was fired from Twitter a long time ago.
They brought him back, and I am convinced he's not very active.
He's the CEO of Square.
And Twitter.
But I really doubt he's involved in Twitter.
Like, he's probably to a certain degree.
But, you know, people are always tweeting at Jack when something bad happens on Twitter, and they're blaming him for it.
And I think you can criticize him.
Because, you know, if he wants to be the face of the company and be the CEO, then he has to, you know, expect people will criticize him, for sure.
But I don't think he really has anything to do with it.
So CNBC reports Twitter CEO set aside $1 billion in square equity for charity, coronavirus relief.
Hey, man.
That's... How much is too much?
adam crigler
That is incredible.
That's... I mean, for the billionaires, for the 0.1%, I believe, right?
Exactly.
For that small little sliver of human beings that have that amount of wealth, If they could even spend it in their lifetime, I don't even know if it's possible.
But for this man to give up almost a third of it, just to help everyone, that's props to this dude, man.
That's amazing.
tim pool
We'll grab the context and then we'll talk about it.
They say Square and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey said Tuesday, He will set aside $1 billion in his Square equity to support relief efforts for COVID-19 and other causes once the pandemic is over.
In a series of tweets, Dorsey said that after the pandemic is over, he will dedicate the money to causes like universal basic income and girls' health and education.
He said he's pulling the shares from his stake in Square instead of Twitter because he owns more stock in Square.
Dorsey said he'll cash in the shares over time.
The impact this money will have should benefit both companies over the long term because it's helping the people we want to serve.
Dorsey said that he wants to see the impact of his donation during his lifetime and that the needs are increasingly urgent.
He also said he hopes it will inspire others to do something similar.
adam crigler
That's the others I was talking about.
The others who have that, that don't need it.
tim pool
First, there's his choices.
There's politics in this for sure.
He's a lefty dude.
The girls and women's education stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But, look, if some dude makes a ton of money and then wants to donate it to whatever cause they want to, I really don't, you know.
adam crigler
That's his choice, yeah.
tim pool
Welcome to capitalism.
He's got the money, he can spend how he sees fit.
But there was this funny meme where I guess Bill Gates donated 50 million.
And people are like, Bill Gates is worth, what is he worth, like 60, 70 billion dollars or something?
adam crigler
And he gives away like... 70 billion?
Is that the number?
tim pool
I don't know.
Can you look up what Bill Gates' net worth is?
But a lot more than Jack Dorsey.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
So 50 million is like chump change for someone like him.
tim pool
Jack Dorsey is a pretty lefty dude, and I think there's a lot of people like him that are good spirited, misguided perhaps, and that can lead to really negative things.
You know, they say the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
This I dig.
This I think is respectable.
Because, uh, I remember seeing, like, Oprah, for instance, giving out cars.
And everyone's like, oh, that's so amazing.
Oprah's giving everybody cars and all that stuff.
And it's like, she's not giving anybody anything, dude.
The car company's doing it.
It's a promo.
They're using a show to market a product.
adam crigler
Yep, now everyone's gonna be driving around in that car.
tim pool
No, they had to pay taxes on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All of a sudden, all of a sudden people had like a tax liability of like five, uh, $5,000 or some ridiculous
number they couldn't pay.
And so they were like selling them.
But it's not just that, she's a billionaire.
So when she gives away like, you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars, it's like, it is a lot of money.
I get it.
But relative to how much she's earned, you know, when I see somebody who's making minimum wage give up like a hundred bucks a week, then that's, that's legit.
That's like a huge portion of your income.
It's probably irresponsible.
So they say, Dorsey said he wants to see the impact of his donation during his lifetime and that the needs are right there.
Dorsey also tweeted a link to public, a public, a Google doc where people can track which organization the funds money will go to.
adam crigler
Wow.
That's surprising and awesome.
tim pool
Seriously.
adam crigler
You can actually check it out.
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
Dorsey isn't the only technologist to fund coronavirus relief efforts.
Though he's doing it on a big scale, Amazon's Jeff Bezos has said he is donating $100 million to U.S.
food banks.
Now stop right there for a second.
Bezos has shares, his excess is like $130 billion or some ridiculous number.
Dorsey, three.
So I will give some respect to Jack Dorsey.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla donated $25 million towards creating
treatments for coronavirus through their philanthropic organization, the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
And the Bill Gates Foundation has said it will spend billions to fight coronavirus,
according to the Wall Street Journal.
Jack Dorsey has done way more than anyone else in regards to actually doing right by this.
And having met the guy and talked to him, I think there are issues with Twitter.
I think he absolutely needs to step up.
I don't know if he can.
I think he's more of a figure, like I said, like a mascot.
The criticism for him, if he wants to be the CEO, is legit.
But this is cool.
I mean, how many people are willing to give up that 30% of their total net worth when there's like a real emergency or something?
adam crigler
I mean, probably the ratio is really small because 30% of your net worth for most people is like,
they would go bankrupt, you know?
Most people's gains.
tim pool
Well, most people already are negative.
adam crigler
Exactly.
So most people are negative, exactly, in debt from something.
tim pool
I was reading this, I think it was from like Forbes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And it was talking about the net worth of people based on age.
Okay.
29 was when their net worth went positive.
A thousand dollars on average.
Like if you're 29 your net worth is like a thousand bucks.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And it's mostly because of college or just because a lot of young people don't have money.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But yeah from like 18 until 28 negative net worth.
Jack Dorsey, how old is that guy?
you enter 30 and you have $1,000 and at 31 you've got like $7,000 and then by the time
they're 40 they have like $50,000.
So after all of these years of working they finally flip it positive.
Jack Dorsey, how old is that guy?
He's like, is he 40 I think?
adam crigler
Yeah, he looks like he could be 40.
lydia smith
Hard questions.
tim pool
Yeah.
And so he started a bunch of companies.
He made a bunch of money.
unidentified
43.
tim pool
43.
So his net worth is certainly higher than a lot of people.
Now, this will be interesting, because he might say he wants to do a bunch of good things with this, but what do you think happens when you just pour money out a window, right?
Reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Peter gets in the blimp with Brian and they dump bags of money into the football stadium.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, I've seen that episode.
tim pool
And then everyone starts fighting over it and hitting each other and it causes chaos and pandemonium.
So what happens now with him giving up his wealth?
Like, will it work?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
And where's it gonna go?
What organizations?
Maybe we can actually just pull up the Google Doc.
unidentified
Is this gonna... Yeah, it looks like it's got a...
tim pool
Oh, hey, there we go.
lydia smith
Look at that.
tim pool
So America's food fund.
Oh, I guess.
No, he's choosing, but you can watch what he's done with it.
adam crigler
Okay.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's a lot of money.
adam crigler
So it's there and it's, well, it's the Google doc.
The numbers are there.
tim pool
See, maybe this will actually help people understand how stock works.
Maybe they'll understand liquid cash or something.
I don't know.
Maybe not because he set aside a billion dollars worth of value.
How many shares is that?
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
Is he doing it by value or by share?
adam crigler
Current share price is 50 bucks.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Oh, that's a lot of shares.
adam crigler
So he set aside... Oh, and then it says, number of shares to be transferred, almost 20,000.
19,833.
Oh no, that's 19 million.
Sorry, I thought that was a point.
tim pool
A period.
adam crigler
Yeah.
19 million shares, 800.
tim pool
So what happens now if, because he's dumping these stocks, people start selling Square?
lydia smith
Yeah, is the stock going to tank?
tim pool
And then it's like all of a sudden now the current value is only 200 million.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I might not take it.
It might go up.
But him selling 20 million shares?
Yeah, that typically is going to drop the price substantially.
lydia smith
That's tricky.
tim pool
So I'm not an expert on trading, but when there is a massive sell-off, the way it works is like You have bids.
Let's say you have 100 people.
One person says I'll pay $1.
Next person says I'll pay $2.
And it goes up to $100.
So right now, the current bid to buy is $100.
So if I say I'm going to sell a stock, I sell it for $100.
The next available is $99.
The next stock sells for $99.
Every time you sell, the value of your stock drops to the next.
So there will be people who specifically say, ooh, what's this?
Jack Dorsey is selling square stock at $50 a share?
I'm going to put in an order to buy once it hits $40 because it's definitely going to tank.
And then once it sells off and the price starts going back up, I'll have bought into a premium.
So now you're probably going to see a bunch of people moving to buy at lower prices.
I'm speculating.
And then the total value will drop dramatically.
We'll see if it actually works out.
I think it's cool that he's doing it.
lydia smith
Do you think the politics of it would help drive up the value of the company at all?
tim pool
I don't really know how that works.
I mean, look, he's personally giving up a lot of money, regardless of what the value of the stock is.
It's his but it's personally his how much how much stock does he have left in the company?
Presumably a bit more maybe even another 20 million shares And how much does he is he is he hoping this might actually drive up the value, but I'll tell you what man.
I respect it You know why?
I've been thinking about a long time about a really great marketing game, like a marketing plan, where companies would compete to do the most social good.
And imagine if, like, McDonald's would have like a budget, a ridiculous budget for a commercial, a million bucks, two million bucks.
I'm like, what could you do with that in terms of social good?
What if instead of doing a commercial where The Rock shows up in a parachute and breaks through the roof of McDonald's and then orders a Big Mac, I'm just being silly.
What if instead of paying all that money, you took a cell phone and filmed yourself paying people's medical bills?
And then, you know what I would do?
If I was a company, I was going to do an ad.
I'd be like, for the next 30 seconds, you're going to watch us go around and pay off people's medical debt.
And then in the last 10 seconds, I'll be like, this was a commercial for our product.
Straight up.
We did this.
We spent a million bucks paying off people's medical debt to get your attention because we want you to buy our cheeseburgers.
I'm not saying it's a good idea.
I prefer commercials where people are like, buy our cheeseburger because it's got beef and cheese on it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But if you look at how much money they spend on stupid things like a zebra breaks through, you know, the window and then like Mountain Dew is exploding through the pipes and people are like, whoa, we spent all that money.
I would actually be more inclined to buy the product if they were like, instead of wasting all that money, we filmed an extremely low budget commercial, helped a bunch of people, we found some people who lost their jobs and we helped them start a business.
I'd be like, there you go.
adam crigler
And this is not an actor, I'm actually the CEO of the company.
It's like, talking about my company.
tim pool
If they had a 30 second commercial where the guy was like, I am straight up and unashamedly telling you that we dumped this money in an effort to get your attention, Because we figured what better way to get your attention than to literally spend money doing something really, really great that can't be ignored.
And so, hey, it's a win-win, right?
Bunch of homeless people get helped.
You guys figure out we got a product.
Like, actually, remember when, I think it was KFC?
adam crigler
That's monetizing virtue signaling.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, why not?
But why not?
Yeah, I know.
adam crigler
It's like the best case scenario for virtue signaling.
It's like, we were going to spend money, but instead we helped a lot of people.
Here's our product.
tim pool
Yeah, why not?
Remember, was it KFC was fixing potholes?
Was it KFC?
lydia smith
I think it was, yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, I don't know.
lydia smith
Oh, no, it was a delivery company.
It was a pizza company that went around filling up those dominoes.
tim pool
Dominoes.
They were like, we'll fill the pothole and then put our logo on it.
And I'm like, That's awesome.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
That's pretty great.
tim pool
Oh, the socialists were angry.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, because they were like, why is the pizza, like, they call it late stage capitalism, that pizza companies are required to fix this stuff.
lydia smith
And I'm like... Required to?
tim pool
I'm like, that's actually great.
adam crigler
Yeah, why?
tim pool
Like, they have no, it works.
lydia smith
That's a positive.
tim pool
Like, you walk outside, there's a Domino's thing on the street and you're like, that's silly.
Oh, hey, they fixed that pothole.
lydia smith
Sweet.
tim pool
Somebody got a flat tire and they show up next day and pizza delivery guy, Domino's is fixing it.
They're like, hey, awesome.
adam crigler
Oh, thanks, Domino's.
tim pool
We'll see how it plays out.
Regardless of what's going on, I think it's cool.
Politics aside, I guess I have another question we can wait a little bit longer.
How much is too much?
adam crigler
That's a good question.
Like profit?
How much does a human really need to make before they're like, I don't need to make any more money.
Every single dime that I would have made after this point, after this amount, goes to charities.
Is that what you're talking about?
tim pool
Not even about charities necessarily.
adam crigler
Or not necessarily charities.
tim pool
Because why would I trust every, you know... True, true.
adam crigler
Given it to the things that I want to do, like what he's doing with this, you know, Google chart, you can see where the money's going.
tim pool
Like, Jack Dorsey literally couldn't buy anything else.
I guess he could, because a billion... You know, if you want to go to Mars, Yeah.
yes you give you a lot of billion dollars and get the first-class ticket
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
sure their things you can't buy
no matter how rich you are their limits
i don't know if that the goal of all these billionaires is to like a bunch
like it's the point where they can buy a rocket tomorrow that you must get doing
adam crigler
anything altered carbon Yeah.
Dude, that's what they want.
tim pool
Well, if Jack Dorsey was, you know, he's like, I would like to download my brain into a chip that I can plant in other bodies and transfer my consciousness.
You're going to need a bit more than a billion dollars.
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
Might not be possible, but, you know.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
You're saying, what would they need or want?
And it's like, that's probably the only thing remaining is immortality because they have everything.
tim pool
But do people really want to be immortal?
adam crigler
Those people?
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I feel like... I think it's a myth.
adam crigler
When you have power, you don't want to let it go, so... Greed corrupts, right?
But I feel like not everybody gets corrupted to the point of that, wanting to be immortal, to have power forever.
tim pool
Well, I was watching something where they said that everybody who's young doesn't want to die.
And once you get older, and life gets harder and you're in pain, then you're like, I don't want to be immortal.
Well, that's because you're in pain, but if you were constantly 24, you'd probably always want to live.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
So doesn't Peter Thiel do, like, youth blood transfusions?
unidentified
Oh, gosh.
Is he really?
tim pool
Is he an urban legend?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
I do not mean to impugn the integrity of Peter Thiel.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Just a story I heard.
adam crigler
Or that, uh, what is that?
tim pool
Can you look this up?
adam crigler
Adrenochrome?
No, I don't know.
unidentified
It's not a thing.
adam crigler
I know, I'm not saying it is a thing, but that's the vibe of what they would be after.
tim pool
There's a story that billionaires in Silicon Valley hire young people to exercise and be
healthy and eat healthy and then once a week they transfer blood.
They trade blood.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
So I have four articles here.
One says Teal is very, very interested in young people's blood.
The second says he is not harvesting the blood of the young.
He wants to inject himself, and the fourth said the FDA is warning against this.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
So I don't really know.
tim pool
Well, so the idea is that by transfusing youthful blood, it actually repairs, like, your blood is now younger, and so it's healthier, and it makes your body look better.
adam crigler
It does seem to make sense.
lydia smith
Kind of makes sense, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe it's just an urban legend, but that's what people were always saying.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
There's definitely something there, I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe some people do want to be immortal.
Maybe they'll eat healthy because of it.
lydia smith
I heard a quote.
tim pool
I don't know.
I wonder what people think about Mr. Dorsey.
Let's grab the Super Chats.
Yes, let's do that.
We're getting close to wrapping up.
We went a little longer today, so make sure you hit the subscribe button, hit the like button, hit the notification bell, and follow us.
Our names are up above our heads.
Instagram and Twitter.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, hit me up with some story ideas if you want.
I actually tweeted out, you know, what is your most conspiracy ideas you want us to talk about.
Lots of people responded and I appreciate you guys all hitting me up with that.
But if you got any cool ideas, send them my way.
A lot of people are sending me ideas that we've actually talked about already.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
So, that's okay.
I just, you know, keep them coming.
Keep them coming, though.
I really appreciate it.
tim pool
Alright, I'm going to have to just pick a random spot because we are just completely slammed with superchats.
So, I'm just going to start from where I can.
If I don't get to you, I apologize.
guys.
Dex says, Tim, I'm a libertarian who leans right, the far left is becoming too hard to
deal with.
Yes, I certainly agree.
Harry Toad says, Tim, I was watching your skateboarding on YouTube.
You're pretty freaking good.
Well, those are old videos.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
He's pretty freaking good.
unidentified
He's even better now.
tim pool
Right.
What I'm saying is I'm actually substantially better.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa.
I don't know about that.
unidentified
Humility.
tim pool
I am substantially better than all of those videos.
adam crigler
I'm just kidding.
I know, yes.
It's true.
Axel, video coming soon.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Axel and Janet, thanks for becoming members.
Joseph says, the virus and the government reaction is not like a normal illness.
We didn't react like this for bird swine flu, Ebola, or Zika, but the government did react to anthrax like this.
Honestly worried, your local hazmat worker.
Yeah, bird and swine flu weren't nearly as bad.
Ebola is a very, very inefficient virus that struggles to transmit itself.
This is like an airborne two-week transmission.
This is like a scary, you know.
lydia smith
Yeah, it can be asymptomatic.
tim pool
Paxton says, what about us?
My belly aches and these land whales are slow, just the way I like.
Wow.
Logan Porter says, hey Tim, been watching for a few years.
Don't always agree, but I love your honesty.
When it comes to fat shaming, I'll just say this.
Losing over 150 pounds is hard, but not impossible.
Semper Fidelis.
lydia smith
Super props.
tim pool
Yeah.
Matt says, everyone should be rooting for Elon Musk to get Starlink up and running soon.
Even if the world ends, we'd still have internet spanning the globe for as long as they can keep orbit.
That is awesome.
That is pretty cool.
But astronomers are really angry because you can see them in the night sky.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're messing up the instruments.
tim pool
Kevin Ferguson says, off subject, watch the quartering video.
Hope you're doing OK.
FYI, I have three stepbrother.
Appreciate it.
RB says, hello from Kansas, Sir Tim of Beanie, Soy Jesus, and Miss of Whiterun.
lydia smith
Hello.
tim pool
Andrea says, do you think the FDA should lift regulations preventing farmers to sell directly to the public?
If this happened, farmers could stop destroying product, but there are safety concerns as well.
Thoughts?
I don't know.
I'm not a farmer.
adam crigler
I didn't know that was a thing.
tim pool
Yeah, me neither.
adam crigler
It makes sense.
Why shouldn't they be able to sell to their neighbors or the people in need?
Especially if they're going to throw the product away.
tim pool
Totally.
Z Polar Bear says, BMI is BS.
I did powerlifting, and no powerlifter body fat percentage is the most accurate.
Yeah, BMI doesn't account for, like, ripped muscular people.
lydia smith
Yes, but how many of those people are there in the US?
tim pool
Right.
Most people are overweight.
Super Free Education says, how cool is it that you have your own news show and can nerd out about anime in passing?
Life is good, Tim.
lydia smith
Heck yeah!
tim pool
Well, yeah, I just would just say whatever I want.
adam crigler
I'll second that.
tim pool
Everett Beatty says, it's okay to have yuck yucks.
You're going to need them soon.
Grab the van and move on.
The window for it won't last long.
I think we'll be alright.
Jeremy Swart says, you are awesome.
Tim, thank you.
Appreciate it.
Nuke the ice caps.
Okay.
Says, some chronobucks to get you through the kung flu.
I've heard beanies are rated at N95.
Thanks for the interesting content.
I do not believe it's correct, but I appreciate it anyway.
Christopher Burke says, so are we just going to ignore Jussie's sister as Black Canary in Birds of Prey?
The movie was plagued by the curse of Maga Country.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
That was Jussie's sister, wasn't it?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Delamort, thanks for becoming a member.
And let's see.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
There we go.
East Shore says, Love your vids, Tim.
I hate how YouTube never autoplays your vids.
Any other vid, they write after the other except yours.
They usually play a Fox News vid and I'm not even subscribed to them.
Yes.
Everybody who watches me gets sent to Fox News and periodically MSNBC.
And then everybody who watches David Pakman gets sent to MSNBC.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Maybe Airsoft and Fox News.
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's weird.
tim pool
It's on purpose.
Thank you.
Thank you.
JBP VFL says, check out the stories on the testing done with young and old mice.
That is the reason of blood transfusion of young to old.
Totally.
Socialism is for figs says, Trump campaign donated a lot of money to buy food for all
the health care workers in New York.
He really isn't that bad at all.
He did that.
adam crigler
You know, the campaign.
tim pool
I didn't know that.
And it was apparently they didn't announce it.
Somebody, a journalist found out about it.
adam crigler
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
So they didn't even care to tell people.
tim pool
I'm sure they leaked it.
adam crigler
I'm sure they like put it- They're like, let's not tell anyone and leak it.
tim pool
Right.
You know, that's clever stuff.
adam crigler
Well, he didn't say anything.
I didn't hear it from him.
tim pool
Yeah.
Michael says, whatever Dorsey's motives, I don't care.
Doing good for selfish reasons is still doing good.
I agree with it.
adam crigler
That's exactly what my point was right there.
tim pool
T Trinidad says, Some need charities, but just donating money isn't sustainable because it doesn't create capital.
What rich people can do is create jobs and self-sustaining work.
That's true as well, yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, good point.
tim pool
Speakers, I appreciate your honesty so much, Tim.
Thank you very much, and I think it's about time we leave these parts, so check back tomorrow, 8 p.m.
We'll be live again.
You can follow us, like I said, subscribe, notification bell, like button, and share!
Yes.
adam crigler
Please share.
tim pool
We rely on you, good fans of the Beanie.
adam crigler
Spread the Beanie word.
tim pool
Spread the word of Beanie and Soy Jesus.
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Beanie Bros.
tim pool
So that people may come and bask in the glory.
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Yes.
tim pool
Alright, we'll see you guys tomorrow.
Thanks for hanging out.
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