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April 2, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Strange Conspiracy Surrounds Duncan Lemp, A Man Killed by Police In His Sleep
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tim pool
Thanks for watching.
Conspiracy or just warrants gone wrong?
Warrants gone wrong.
adam crigler
What's up, everybody?
tim pool
The lead story we have for you was requested by a lot of people.
We started looking into it.
We got some articles pulled up.
It's about a man named Duncan Lemp, who was killed by police.
They were serving a warrant.
And witnesses say that he was just sleeping and the cops started firing through the door.
I don't know, they're like wearing masks or something.
It's like a crazy story.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know if there's too much in the way of like legit reporting on what's really going on.
We got a couple stories.
But this really does fall in line with a couple things.
Well, I should say with one real thing.
It's these red flag laws.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Where they basically serve a warrant without you knowing.
And they're like, we're coming to take your guns.
And then people are like, no, you're not.
And then they get killed.
It's happening a lot.
Because the people who said my cold, dead hands, they meant it.
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unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Soy bro.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So we got it.
We have a bunch of stories.
We'll see what we get to, but we're gonna talk about Atlantis as well.
Cause we were talking about this the other day.
And I think to get away from the coronavirus and politics, we're like, let's just talk about some weird stuff.
Weird stuff's fun.
adam crigler
I like weird stuff.
tim pool
There was a viral video on YouTube where people were claiming they discovered Atlantis.
adam crigler
I love it.
tim pool
They were like, this is where it is.
And then jerks were like, no, this is not where it is.
And so we have the debunk article.
We'll figure it out.
adam crigler
I have something that I want to be true and believe, but I'll talk about it when we're talking about the subject.
tim pool
Well, so this first story, I read the article, the Duncan Lemp one, and I, you know, it's a similar story we hear a lot, so I didn't know if there's anything, you know, like, I don't know how to actually, like, address what's happening.
People think it's, like, some grand conspiracy.
Somebody commented in the Super Chat, this guy was, like, working on some kind of encrypted program or Bitcoin or something like that.
adam crigler
Yeah, I haven't seen anything, but it feels like if he was they would probably want to keep it under wraps, you know, whatever it was.
Maybe.
But I'm sure someone out there knows and just doesn't want to say anything because if this happened to, you know, the person they know that was working on it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
There have been a handful of people who have died under mysterious circumstances.
lydia smith
Indeed.
tim pool
Suicide, etc.
adam crigler
I know someone personally.
tim pool
Who have been working on some crazy stuff.
Oh, I don't know if you want to bring that up.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's another subject.
tim pool
The chat will light up.
adam crigler
It falls in line with this a little bit, if this is the case.
tim pool
And it involves a very, very high-profile individual.
adam crigler
It really does.
tim pool
What is he talking about?
Isn't everybody all excited right now?
adam crigler
What could it be?
Let's just go into this.
We'll see what happens.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
The Guardian.
This is a story from March 14th.
Maryland man fatally shot by police while asleep in his bedroom.
Montgomery County Police said Duncan Socrates Lemp confronted officers as eyewitnesses gave contrary account.
They report a Maryland man who was shot and killed by a police officer was asleep in his bedroom when police opened fire from outside his house, an attorney for the 21-year-old man's family said on Friday.
The man's girlfriend was also wounded.
The Montgomery County Police Department said in a news release, Duncan Socrates Lemp confronted police and was shot by one of the officers early on Thursday.
But Renee Sandler, an attorney for Lemp's relatives, said an eyewitness gave a completely contrary account of the shooting.
She said police could have absolutely no justification for shooting Lemp based on what she has heard about the circumstances.
The facts as I understand them from eyewitnesses are incredibly concerning.
The warrant police obtained to search the Potomac home Lemp shared with his parents
and 19-year-old brother does not mention any imminent threat to law enforcement or to the
public. Lemp's relatives said in a statement released by their lawyers. Nobody in the house
that morning had a criminal record, the statement said. Any attempt by the police to shift
responsibility onto Duncan or his family who were sleeping when police fired shots into their home
is not supported by the facts. A police department spokesman did not immediately respond to statements
from the family or their lawyer. The department's news release said tactical unit members were
serving a high-risk search warrant around 4 30 a.m. when police fired shots into the home.
when one officer fatally shot Lemp.
Police detectives recovered three rifles and two handguns from the home.
Lemp was prohibited from possessing firearms, police said.
Detectives were following up on a complaint from the public that Lempth, though prohibited, was in possession of firearms, the release said, without elaborating.
Sandler said the family believes police fired gunshots, not a flashbang or other projectile, from outside the home, including through Lempth's bedroom window, while he and his girlfriend were sleeping.
Nobody in the home heard any warnings or commands before police opened fire.
There is no warrant or other justification that would ever allow for that unless there is an imminent threat, which there was not.
The police release said facts and circumstances of the encounter were still under investigation.
Prosecutors from neighboring Howard County will review the evidence at the conclusion of the investigation.
So I guess we'll wait and see.
But I have a feeling this will get buried.
Definitely.
adam crigler
It feels like it's going to get buried.
I mean, it's interesting that they were just... Let me scroll up a little bit.
It says detectives were following up on a complaint from the public.
unidentified
That's it?
tim pool
B.S.
adam crigler
I don't buy it.
That's the reason they went and got a warrant?
Because the public was complaining that he had guns?
tim pool
No way, dude.
And it's like, who was complaining?
Who knew a guy with no criminal record was not allowed to have a weapon?
adam crigler
Exactly.
And then it's like, you know, wait, why was he prohibited to have weapons?
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
It doesn't say.
adam crigler
It doesn't say that either.
It's like, what?
And the biggest thing, if they were, if they had a confrontation with him, that means they saw him and they would have shot him.
How did his girlfriend get wounded?
That doesn't make any sense to me.
Were they just shooting in the general direction?
No, they're trained to aim at the person.
And they saw he had a gun and said put it down and he didn't so they would shoot at him.
Why would his girl be there with him?
If she was sleeping, would she follow him, right?
Stand right behind him during this whole thing?
tim pool
Well, so we have this story.
It's from the American conservative.
This is really interesting because we're starting to see, you know, the left for the longest time has decried police brutality and a lack of accountability.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, especially with red flag laws, conservatives are also saying basically the same thing.
And then it is interesting, too, when you see there's a lot of sheriffs and police who are saying they refuse to serve like confiscation orders or anything like that.
So we'll see how far that, you know, whoever it is who wants to push these laws, we'll see how far they take it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But this story from the American conservative says the mystery deepens over the pre-dawn police killing of Duncan Lemp.
adam crigler
Well, that's an interesting thing too.
The pre-dawn, 4 30 a.m.
tim pool
They show up in the middle, you know, wee hours in the morning.
adam crigler
And is it to catch them sleeping?
Cause they, they did.
They caught him sleeping and they were wearing masks.
lydia smith
Yup.
adam crigler
So like, and they, they, as that eyewitness said, they didn't announce themselves.
They didn't like, this is a, we're serving a warrant.
So if you're in the middle, if you're waking up at 4 30, hearing someone, Breaking into your house without hearing that there's a police, what do you think it's gonna be?
It's a robber or someone coming to shoot you.
tim pool
Oh, this happens all the time.
adam crigler
Why wouldn't you, like, grab the, you know, your defense?
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
You know?
And defend yourself.
tim pool
Dude, there are tons of stories like that where there's, like, no-knock raids with plain-clothes cops.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
And then people are like, here's a strange man wearing regular clothes in my house with a gun.
That's crazy, man.
And then you end up in prison.
Yeah, there's a bunch of stories like that.
lydia smith
Geez, dude.
adam crigler
I don't understand it.
tim pool
So we have this story from the 18th, from the American Conservative.
Saying under pressure by media criticism, the police department issued a detailed statement this afternoon purportedly exonerating itself.
That's my favorite one.
We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.
lydia smith
Yeah, what are the odds?
tim pool
That statement, the third revision of their official account of the fatal raid, is contradicted by multiple eyewitnesses.
Police now say that the raid was spurred by an anonymous tip at the beginning of the year, indicating that Lemp was in possession of firearms.
I guess so.
In response from the Lemp family delivered by their lawyer, Renee Sandler noted,
Using a three-month-old anonymous tip, the police sought and obtained a no-knock search warrant on March 11, 2020 at
2.38 p.m.
The police department states, The warrant was served in the early morning hours
consistent with Montgomery County Department of Police practice.
So an anonymous tip is all it takes for a SWAT team to launch violent pre-dawn assaults on Montgomery County homes?
The press statement declared.
lydia smith
Three months old?
tim pool
Yeah.
The officers entering the residence announced themselves as police and that they were serving a search warrant.
Why did they obtain a no-knock warrant if they intended to enter the residence and announce themselves?
Yeah, because they're full of it.
According to the statement from family members, the raid began when SWAT officers initiated gunfire and flashbangs through Duncan Lem's bedroom window in the front of the house, according to the police.
Upon making contact with Lem, officers identified themselves as police and gave him multiple orders to show his hands.
The press release reads almost as if Lemp died from an overwhelming sense of guilt, rather than being shot perhaps multiple times by police.
It also doesn't specify whether they'd shot or otherwise wounded Lemp before making contact and issuing commands.
According to Lemp's pregnant girlfriend, who was in bed.
unidentified
Oh my god.
tim pool
She said, police never made verbal commands upon either her or Duncan until after Duncan
unidentified
Gosh.
tim pool
was shot and lay bleeding on the floor.
The press release declares, upon entrance by officers into Lemp's bedroom, Lemp was
found to be in possession of a rifle and was located directly in front of the interior
bedroom entrance door.
Was he quote found to be in possession as he lay on the floor bleeding?
And was it Lemp or the rifle that was directly, quote, in front of the interior bedroom entrance door?
The police claim to be vindicated because they found five firearms in the house and because they asserted today that Lemp had a criminal history as a juvenile.
I thought they said there was no criminal history in the other article from The Guardian.
That prohibited him from legally possessing or purchasing firearms in the state of Maryland until the age of 30.
Do the police have a right to kill anyone who possesses a firearm in violation of any statute on the books?
If so, that's bad news for the tens of thousands of Maryland gun owners who are federal felons because they use marijuana or other illicit drugs.
The police department has offered a sham of transparency.
They refused to answer any of my questions last Friday.
I sent another set of questions to them this morning prior to the latest revision of their story among them.
Many people online have suggested that Lemp was targeted for a raid because he was helping to build a secure computer site for people who shared his pro-gun political beliefs.
Is that allegation correct?
Did concerns about Lemp's political beliefs or associations factor into the SWAT team's decision to launch a violent raid at 4.30am?
Did the SWAT team or other police department or Montgomery County officials do any assessment of the likelihood that someone would be injured or killed by a nighttime SWAT raid that began with shooting or flashbangs?
Did Montgomery County police or other officials make any effort or even consider making an effort to serve the search warrant in any way that would have permitted the peaceful, voluntary cooperation of Lemp family members?
He goes on to say that he sent these to them.
He asked some other questions.
So, you know, in the end, he says the Montgomery County Police Department doesn't have a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent after it kills county residents.
The SWAT team wore body cams and police have thus far refused to release the footage.
They deserve no benefit of the doubt for this violent killing.
adam crigler
Yeah, I want to see that body cam footage.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
Bring it out.
tim pool
I don't care what your politics are.
adam crigler
How are you not showing that?
And the fact that you're not makes me not believe anything you're saying, police.
Sorry.
You wear them for this reason.
Right.
tim pool
Have you ever seen that video where the cop thinks he's turning his body cam off and he turns it on and then films himself planting drugs?
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Yeah, I haven't seen that.
But I'm not surprised.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Yeah, dude, this kind of stuff happens all the time.
So, look, people, yeah, people have been saying this guy was developing some kind of encrypted chat system or something and all of a sudden the cops came and took him out.
You know, the issue I take with that for the most part is, is that enough to kill?
Like, there's companies that have encryption that have resisted national security letters and then been shut down.
You know, there are activist websites that do email that have the feds come and seize their servers.
Would some dude working on this warrant, like, an assassination by the state?
adam crigler
I wouldn't... Yeah, who knows?
I don't know.
tim pool
It could be an attempt to, like, restrain him in some capacity that went wrong.
adam crigler
Okay.
Like, they know... Like, maybe he was warned already or something?
No, no, like... And he's like, no, I'm still doing my job.
tim pool
No, no, like, that was them being like, we want to put pressure on him to get him to stop what he's doing.
adam crigler
Uh-huh.
tim pool
But overzealous SWAT guys were like, let her rip.
I don't know, man.
You know what the issue is?
I interviewed an NYPD detective and he told me, this was years ago, he said there's nothing more dangerous, and this is a little hyperbolic, than a scared person holding a gun.
And you have these police officers who keep saying, I'm scared for my life.
I was scared for my life.
He's like, well, if you're scared, go home to your mother.
Because this job is not for people who are terrified all the time.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
And this is an NYPD cop.
He told me a story about how He had his gun, he confronted a crazy guy who had his gun drawn, and he refused to draw his weapon.
And he was like, because if I draw, I'm escalating that conflict, and now that guy, we're getting in a shoot-off, and I was like, bro, I'm not gonna draw, I'm gonna keep my hands up, and I'm gonna talk to you, there's no way out of this, you gotta put it down, eventually the guy put it down, and they took care of things.
adam crigler
That's a cop right there.
tim pool
That's policing.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
That's a good cop.
adam crigler
That's policing.
Awesome.
lydia smith
Super diplomatic.
tim pool
And you ever see that story?
I think it was from Brazil.
A guy comes in a hospital.
He's got a knife.
And the cop just like sits down and puts his hands up.
Starts talking to the guy.
This might have been in like Thailand or something.
But then eventually he convinces the guy to drop the knife and gives him a hug.
adam crigler
Awesome.
tim pool
Talk about people who are brave and heroes who actually shut these things down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Look, I get it, man.
I was talking to... I can't remember where I saw this, but I was reading a story about some cops and their mentality when it comes to dangerous situations.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And I've talked to some people who have served, who have done law enforcement stuff, and there's this idea that some of them say is, I'm not going to risk my life for you.
I'm at work.
And so there needs to be some kind of cultural honor within police culture, I guess, where it's not about you going to work and dealing with annoying people, it's about you being a hero who's supposed to defend the community.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
And that means you are held to a higher standard, it means you are at risk, and it means that yes, you will put yourself on the line to do the right thing.
So I can understand, it's like if you're walking up to a car, Cause I've seen, I've also seen these videos, man, where, uh, cause they released body cam stuff for this too.
A cop is walking up to a car and then the guy in the front, and then he walks up and he's like, licensed registration.
And then the dude reaches down and pulls out a gun and goes, pop, pop, pop, pop.
And the guy starts screaming.
I've seen those videos.
adam crigler
And I'm sure every single cop has seen those too.
So they're like, we know it exists.
There's people that just simply hate cops.
Doesn't matter who what kind of cop like it could have been the best cop You know who walked up and would have probably let him off, but it doesn't matter They had drugs in the car or like something something Warren, right?
And they're like there's nothing that's gonna stop me from killing this cop and getting out of here because that's a fight-or-flight Yeah, who's that guy was it?
tim pool
Alton Sterling was that his name yeah in his car I hope I'm getting the right name.
lydia smith
Let me check.
tim pool
But there was a guy who was a legal gun owner.
And the cop came up to his car and said something like, you know, license and insurance or whatever.
And then he asked me if he was armed.
And the dude was like, I am.
I have a permit and a concealed weapon.
And the cop was like, don't reach for it.
He's like, I'm not.
He goes, don't reach for it.
I'm not.
unidentified
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And the girlfriend was filming it.
lydia smith
That wasn't the guy who was in his car.
But yeah, there was a guy who was sitting in his car.
tim pool
I got the name wrong?
lydia smith
He went to get his ID.
Yeah, I forget his name.
I think his name was Phillip.
tim pool
Phillip Castile.
Philando.
Philando Castile.
Was that it?
lydia smith
Let's see.
tim pool
When was this?
adam crigler
A while ago or recently?
tim pool
A few years ago.
unidentified
2016?
lydia smith
Yeah, he was pulled over while driving in Falcon Heights, Minnesota and killed.
tim pool
So this is interesting to me, right?
I think we're absolutely allowed to have a discussion about gun control stuff, but this is what we're getting from it.
They pull up to a guy who's a legal gun owner, Philando Castile, that was his name, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, that was his name.
tim pool
Alright, cool.
Alton Sterling was another one of these people.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's the riot guy.
tim pool
Oh, okay, okay.
Was that Maryland?
Was that Baltimore?
lydia smith
I think that was in Baltimore, I think.
tim pool
Check out this story from 2018, and I gotta be honest, I just Google-searched red flag law, like, killed, and then it's like all these stories pop up where the police get a warrant to come to someone's property and take their guns without them knowing, without giving them a reason, without serving them, they just walk up and say, turn them over.
You gotta realize, like, the people who own weapons believe in their right to own weapons, and the Constitution straight up says you can.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
You wanna have a discussion about changing that, we'll have a discussion.
But if you didn't change it, you can't just show up and then shoot somebody because they refused to turn it over.
adam crigler
Right.
But they're doing it.
tim pool
Dude, there's tons of stories like this and it's crazy.
adam crigler
It's pretty insane.
tim pool
There's one.
This might be it.
Like, basically, look at this.
A 61-year-old man is dead after he was shot by an officer trying to enforce Maryland's new red flag law in Ferndale Monday morning.
Anne Arundel County Police confirmed the police-involved shooting happened on the 100 block of Linwood Avenue.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, we get it.
At 5 a.m., 5.15 a.m.
tim pool
Of course, yep, 5.17.
According to police, two officers serving a new extreme risk protective order, a Maryland protective order to remove guns from a household, shot and killed the man listed on that order.
Under the law, family, police, mental health professionals can all ask for the protective orders to remove weapons.
The man was identified as Gary J. Willis of the same address.
Officials said Willis answered the door while holding a handgun.
Willis then placed the handgun next to the door.
When officers began to serve him the order, Willis became irate and grabbed his gun.
One of the officers tried to take the gun from Willis, but instead, Willis fired the gun.
The second officer fired a gun, striking Willis.
He died at the scene.
Yeah, this was someone saying, my cold dead hands.
Straight up.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Cops showed up and they were like, we're taking your gun.
He's like, nope.
And he went to grab it.
They fought for it.
And he was like, nope.
So, you know, all of these people, these gun grabber type peoples, you realize these people mean it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a constitution that says you can't take it and there's a serious conundrum.
adam crigler
I don't understand how these red flag laws got passed in the first place.
unidentified
Because?
adam crigler
It's a direct violation of the constitution.
Right.
It makes no sense.
tim pool
Well, the argument is that there are limits on the amendments.
Like, within free speech, you know, you can be sued for slander, and if you threaten someone's life, you can be charged with, you know, threatening someone's life.
adam crigler
Right, okay.
tim pool
So their argument is that if somebody has a mental illness, they shouldn't have a weapon, so someone else can flag them.
adam crigler
Yeah, which is abused.
So what is that?
Yeah, exactly.
lydia smith
It's abuse.
adam crigler
It's like the family.
What is it?
Who can do it?
The family, the police officers, mental health professionals under the law.
Yeah, so it's like a family member just is upset with you.
lydia smith
Or like an ex.
adam crigler
Or mad at you.
Well, I mean, as an ex, would that count?
lydia smith
Like your ex-wife.
adam crigler
Sure, okay.
Who just simply hates you.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Wants you out of the house and wants to go and take stuff or something.
Who knows?
adam crigler
But you're armed, and they're like, you know what?
I can abuse this law.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
And there are people who are not going to give it up.
So this is, you know, this all leads into, you know, what we've been seeing recently.
There was a viral thread where somebody went through a list of all of our rights that were just erased due to the pandemic.
And it's a lot.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Like, oh yeah, man.
The right to assemble, to worship, you know, like our expression is being threatened.
You can't go outside at all.
And these are all violations of the First Amendment.
The government shall not be able to do this.
They just did it and no one did anything.
So this is what worries me because, look, I think it's fair to say that the coronavirus is a serious threat.
It's happening all over the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
It's not like all these countries are in on it.
adam crigler
It's a pandemic for a reason.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But then do we just cheer when all of a sudden our constitutional rights don't exist anymore?
adam crigler
I mean, are they written so that it's just an indefinite thing now?
Or is it because of the pandemic, during the pandemic, until the pandemic ends?
I'm not saying I like any of this.
Dude, they're saying two years.
Is that written in there?
So it's written into these laws.
For two years, you can't assemble.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
adam crigler
You can't protest.
tim pool
Like Maryland.
adam crigler
In groups.
tim pool
Maryland's law is indefinite.
adam crigler
This red flag stuff.
No, no, no.
tim pool
Maryland's quarantine decree.
There's no time limit.
It straight up says you can't do these things, period.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
And we'll let you know when we revoke this law.
adam crigler
That's nuts.
tim pool
Yeah, they're screaming about Hungary, because Viktor Orban gets decree power, and I'm like, yeah, that's a bad thing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They just did it here in the U.S.
in all these different states.
unidentified
Right?
lydia smith
It's called fiat power.
adam crigler
It's the same thing.
tim pool
Look, man, I'm annoyed with all the people who go out and don't care and ignore quarantine stuff, because it's like, It's not that big a deal, man.
You don't have to go fight on the front lines.
You don't got to risk your life.
Just stay home.
It's gonna be boring.
And there is within reason how long we can do this.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think, you know, what they've been saying is 12 to 18 months, two months on, one month off, that kind of thing, until we have a vaccine.
But I don't like the idea of just blindly trusting the government.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
For now, I'm looking at all these other countries, and I'm like, okay, I think it's clear to see, like, there's not an international cabal conspiracy to, you know, make this stuff happen.
But never let a good Christ go to waste.
So, like, Viktor Orban, for instance, in Hungary, just recently enacted, or they're proposing a law, a bill, that would change all the laws that say the word gender to gender at birth.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So it's like, that's a political ideological move.
And while I understand what they're doing, and to a certain degree I agree with like, protecting civil rights for biological females, I understand, I do not agree with like, oh what's that?
We got decree power because we're under a pandemic?
Now let's do a bunch of political agenda items that we wanted to get done because no one can stop us.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's messed up.
I agree.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I just saw Gavin Newsom talking about this.
I think it was.
He's like, this is the best time to push our progressive mindset into the world.
I was like, yeah, we know.
tim pool
What did Clyburn say to Pelosi?
Now's our chance to shape things in our vision.
Dude, these people are evil.
lydia smith
Dude.
tim pool
And the problem is people who want to be fair and rational and good faith and have an honest conversation typically don't want to be in charge.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
But these sociopaths who think they're smarter than you want to be in charge, so they run for office, they get elected, and then they start seizing power and doing really stupid things.
And you know what?
Most people don't pay attention, so it just keeps getting worse.
adam crigler
And that's why I want to vote for Tim Pool 2024.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
I'm on it.
tim pool
No, but I'll tell you what.
How about we do this?
We'll hop over to those super chats, and then we will talk about the next story we have is This is not the apocalypse you were looking for.
Pop culture has inundated with catastrophe porn for decades.
None of that has prepared us for our new reality.
lydia smith
No zombies.
tim pool
So we're gonna continue the conversation into Dystopian Nightmare, but unfortunately for all of you, Man, is it so boring.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
Like the most boring apocalypse ever.
lydia smith
Two out of ten.
No zombies.
tim pool
I mean, we're getting drones and police raids.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's not the way I wanted it.
tim pool
I guess, we're kind of like 1984.
adam crigler
It hasn't really hit the fan yet.
lydia smith
That's true.
tim pool
Here's what I demand.
Trump is doing daily press briefings.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
I would like the camera to be just straight on his face so you see nothing but his face in the TV when he talks.
And I want him to start with a routine of calisthenics.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Before we get started on the pandemic, everybody, 10 squat thrusts.
adam crigler
Let's go.
tim pool
And it's just his face talking.
That's excellent.
Now jumping jacks.
adam crigler
Oh, he's not doing anything himself.
unidentified
He's standing at the podium, but the camera zooms into his face.
adam crigler
Good job.
tim pool
At least 1984 would be funny then.
adam crigler
I guess so.
That's true.
tim pool
And they put cameras on all the TVs and they watch you do it.
adam crigler
For those who are watching, we have returned the globe.
tim pool
The globe's back.
unidentified
We have, yes.
adam crigler
And we kept the UFO.
lydia smith
The UFO's getting close to the Earth.
adam crigler
Tell us what you think.
tim pool
There you go.
All right, let's grab these Super Chats and then we will carry on from there.
King Canuck says, saw Jeremy's update on what's happening with you and Chris.
Anyone else here who wants to ask about it, go watch those videos and don't bother Tim about it tonight.
Have a good stream, all three of you.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
IsRafaelXGaming says, Tim, we can't do guests because we aren't set up for Skyping.
Also, Tim, literally on Crowder tonight on Skype.
And you may have noticed, hold on, that I had to rig this weird camera setup.
We had to test the Skype.
lydia smith
It was so annoying.
tim pool
And it's choppy, and I'm going like this on camera.
lydia smith
He really is a robot.
tim pool
Because the frame rate was nine frames per second or something really awful.
adam crigler
Sure.
I think the beanie was just on low power.
tim pool
Dude, we are not set up for Skype.
lydia smith
Skype is the worst.
I hate it.
tim pool
We might be able to, but the thing, the issue with Skype is that getting the camera system to go into Skype versus what we use with our live production software, totally, totally different.
lydia smith
So annoying.
tim pool
Yeah.
So having someone, it's not so much even about being set up for Skype.
It's also just like, we wanted to be an in-person show podcast, not another, you know, cause everybody, you know, just like you could do a Skype conversation easily.
We were actually bringing guests out, sitting them down, having conversations, you know, jerky and stuff.
adam crigler
They can't run away, and they can't turn the camera off.
tim pool
Yeah, especially now, because we'll have him trapped in the middle.
adam crigler
Like, ha ha ha ha, got you!
lydia smith
He can't leave.
Perfect, this is the plan, yes.
adam crigler
Beanie sandwich!
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more.
lydia smith
Ooh, sketchy.
tim pool
Yeah, also, I'm like, on Crowder tonight, and I was like, wait a minute.
He's two places in the world?
That's so weird, like, people are gonna, like our views are, we have less concurrent viewers today than we have in the past few days.
lydia smith
We always do on Thursdays.
tim pool
But I'm like, maybe it's because I'm on Crowder, and people are like, I'm gonna watch Tim on Crowder, because that'll be fun.
lydia smith
Tim is taking people away from us.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's all right.
tim pool
I'm competing with myself.
lydia smith
Ah, dude.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Wolf Spain says, Hey Tim, if you were to buy a gun, would you go ahead and buy it or would you go to a gun range to learn how to use it properly first?
Well, of course I'd go to a range.
And I did when we were covering, when I was covering a story in Ferguson about the riots and everything, I thought it would be appropriate to actually go to a range, talk to people and fire a weapon so that I could get a general, just a little feel for like, you know, I don't think it was appropriate.
Well, I'll put it this way.
People who don't know anything about guns trying to report on guns is ridiculous.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
So the bare minimum was like, I'll go to a range, and I had really, really good precision, and I had bad accuracy.
So when I aimed for the center of the target, I missed, but I nailed the crotch ten times in a row.
And so, but no, this is a good thing.
The guy, I can't remember what he said, but he explained to me what I was doing wrong.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like I was, you know, I was like tensing up.
So I was like pointing before I'd pull the trigger, the gun would tilt down.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But he was like, you're, you're able to hit in the same area over and over again.
You just need to correct for, you know, what you're doing when you like you pull you something like that.
I can't remember.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
This was like six years ago.
adam crigler
And me, I've spent time in Texas.
So I know what I'm doing with a gun.
lydia smith
By osmosis.
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's true.
I went to a... Fairly accurate.
tim pool
There was an event at DEFCON, the Hacker Convention, every year.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
They do, I forget what it's called, but they bring out all these crazy guns.
It was awesome.
They got in the middle of the desert.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
And I got to watch, like, this dude had a belt-fed, I could be wrong because I know very little about guns, but it was like, I think it was a belt-fed, like, old World War II 762 or something like that.
Like, it had a huge belt.
unidentified
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
And it was massive!
adam crigler
It was one of those.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, that's so cool.
tim pool
And I brought a drone because what I wanted to do was fly the drone, have it carry a target and then have them just go at it.
And they were like, well, drone gets it right.
And I was like, I'm down.
Well, the drone, the drone was broken a little bit, but still flew.
Okay, so the the problem was that the controller was broken it could still go up and down Okay, and so I was like it's busted man.
I can't do anything with it There's no warranty or anything and I was like obviously I don't want you to break it But if it broke and then I tried to fly it and then I broke the propeller So I'm like let's lift this target up the weight when it
was going up the the This the strings I had tied to it. Yeah, we're slightly off
So it went up it tilted from the weight lifting it and then Flipped and then crashed and the propellers broke and then
I couldn't fly it anymore So I was like you guys can keep it like it works, but yeah,
I figured out that's cool But it's cool like yeah, so the videos on my main channel
from a few years ago And it's like they had all of these different kinds of guns
It was crazy And they were doing they were doing like a speed shooting
contest where there's like five There's a post with like five targets. Yeah, and you have
adam crigler
to like ting ting ting ting cool stuff. Yeah Do you ever see the Keanu Reeves doing? Yeah, dude
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
That dude knows what he's doing.
Yeah, he does.
unidentified
Amazing.
adam crigler
I want him on my team.
tim pool
Yeah, seriously.
That guy trained.
We'll see how he does in... Well, they're probably going to do more John Wick, but they're doing... John Wick 4.
They are, right?
adam crigler
The Matrix 4.
unidentified
No, no, no, not that.
adam crigler
I don't care.
I'm down.
tim pool
Yeah, I am too.
adam crigler
I am so down.
tim pool
Um, for sure.
Kyle Buchanan says, Lydia, your Twitter is the best thing I read.
If you want a crazy good show, watch Joe Rogan with Graham Hancock.
lydia smith
Thanks, man.
I will look it up.
tim pool
DarkRenji says, Good evening, guys.
I hope you're all having a good day.
I saw the quarterings video and they made me respect you more.
Stay strong, homie.
Appreciate it.
Samuel says, F, thank you.
Expert says, Were you able to see the Ecuador situation?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
What's going on in Ecuador?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
All right, we got here.
Joseph Kessler says, Hey Beanie Brigade, I sent a link to the TimKest IRL Instagram full of compiled statistics and data about COVID infection rates, number of people dying with previous conditions, et cetera, by country too.
adam crigler
Cool.
I want to see that.
tim pool
Here we go.
Indivisual says they delayed the last of us too.
Really?
Isn't, isn't, isn't that the, like people were complaining cause it went like social justice-y or something.
adam crigler
Did it?
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
I think it's like, uh... The second game?
tim pool
Yeah, that's the one about the little girl who, like, and the zombies.
adam crigler
I didn't know there were zombies.
tim pool
The Last of Us?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Isn't that the one where, like... I'm thinking of something different, maybe.
tim pool
Yeah, like the fungus takes over their brains.
I never played it, but I heard it was really good.
lydia smith
Does appear that they went in a leftward direction the last of us two is not meant to be fun says Neil Druckmann what?
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Why would I buy it?
lydia smith
Why would you buy it?
adam crigler
It's a game, right?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
It's a chore.
lydia smith
Apparently.
adam crigler
I don't want to do video game chores.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
I never liked it.
adam crigler
Yeah, no thanks.
lydia smith
So what's happening in Ecuador is bodies are piling up in the streets.
tim pool
from coronavirus yeah oh man that's that's you know what i really want to do can we figure out if uh i don't want to start the world on fire is public domain yet i will look it up is it a great song i mean i could play it no because if it's not public domain then they'll turn the stream off they'll disable audio just because i'm covering it it would be oh you played it on the guitar i can actually play the song i think that's fine I would think so.
But it's from 1938.
It's a great song.
lydia smith
So good thing you mentioned that because things published 1924 or earlier.
Including those voluntary placed in public domain.
tim pool
I gotta wait 14 years to be able to play that music.
So for those that aren't familiar, it's the song from Fallout 3.
Sing it!
No.
adam crigler
Or 76 is also in 76.
tim pool
Oh, is it really?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't want to set the world on fire.
unidentified
By the Ink Spots.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
They're great.
tim pool
Good song, man.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, John Terry says, Tim needs a Zeppelin engineered t-shirt.
I have spoken.
I mean, yeah, I'm down.
adam crigler
That'd be funny.
I dig it.
tim pool
Like me with like goggles on and I'm like, you know, pulling like a Zeppelin flying.
unidentified
Well, it's cool.
adam crigler
The next thing, we got the UFO.
We got the earth.
Then we'll have a little Zeppelin over here that looks like it's floating above the earth.
tim pool
We can get it like spinning around.
lydia smith
Yeah, that'd be so cool.
tim pool
Oh my, Chuck Morris says Soylent Jesus is people.
It's people.
Well, it's person.
adam crigler
I actually never saw that movie.
Soylent Green?
Is that the name of the movie?
tim pool
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the whole Soylent Green thing is like the very, very last scene.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So it's not like the movie is entirely... I don't know.
I need to see it.
adam crigler
I've never seen it, but I know exactly what they're talking about.
tim pool
You ever see Logan's run?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
That's the one where they have the light in their hand, and when they turn 30, it flashes before they turn 30, and once they turn 30, it turns red, and they get executed.
adam crigler
Oh, because no one's over 30, right.
tim pool
Yeah, that reminds me of a really funny joke that Family Guy did, where they did a callback, or whatever it's called, a cutaway gag.
And it was like every 80s sci-fi movie ever, and it was very much so.
They're running through a red desert wearing weird suits, and then it's like a guy and a woman, and he's like, we have to escape the corporation!
And then the woman stops running, and he's like, what are you doing?
And then she shoots him, and then he's like, why?
And then she pulls her face off, and she's a robot, and it goes boing, boing, boing, and it zooms out.
Yeah, they nailed it.
unidentified
That's wonderful.
tim pool
Front Hole Enthusiast says, while it's true Tim Pool did not build a Zeppelin while eating ice cream, his true reports say he did indeed build a Zeppelin.
Debunked.
lydia smith
Not while eating ice cream.
adam crigler
Debunked.
tim pool
Here we go.
Cliff says, you're multidimensional.
You're here and on Crowder now.
lydia smith
I know.
How does he do it?
unidentified
It's magic.
tim pool
Well, there are actually more than one of me.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Twin Zeppelin.
tim pool
Twins.
lydia smith
Twin Pool.
tim pool
Kaj says, Tim, that Fallout song won't be in the public domain until 2067.
Have you heard of the VRI contact lenses developed by MojoVision?
They seem very interesting.
unidentified
Ooh, that sounds cool.
adam crigler
Look it up.
Very cool.
tim pool
STFUFFS says, God damn it, Super Chat was refusing to let me post.
Well, we gotcha.
Greg Morgan says, how about a picture of Lydia spinning on the spaceship until you get a camera?
Yeah.
lydia smith
Just cut out a little picture.
adam crigler
A little alien.
Just spinning around.
I love it.
I like that.
tim pool
Alex Aiello says, I haven't seen the shows uploaded this morning.
I don't know.
They're all up.
lydia smith
Everything's up.
Promise.
adam crigler
Some people are asking me about the main live stream, and that's actually not listed.
So you won't find that in our videos.
tim pool
If you want to get the link to the show, you have to subscribe and hit the notification bell.
YouTube is supposed to send you the link, and what's kind of annoying is that they don't.
We just need to make sure we post the unlisted link in the community section.
The reason we're doing this is that when you have a channel and you have a two hour long video next to a ten minute video, People will click the two-hour-long video, especially on a podcast with a live opening, and they X out right away, and then YouTube says, whoa, people don't want to watch this, and they punish the entirety of your channel for this.
So by putting the full-length podcast unlisted, only the people who know what they're getting and want to watch, so it doesn't destroy and disrupt the rest of the channel.
YouTube's system is stupid.
Robert Franklin says, Police story has changed too many times.
They murdered Duncan for owning guns.
Maryland doesn't like you, and you cannot change my mind.
adam crigler
Jeez.
tim pool
Well, it's not the first time.
The story I pulled up from 2018, there was another story from Maryland.
They keep doing this.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, don't move to Maryland, man.
adam crigler
What's up with Maryland, man?
unidentified
Not cool.
adam crigler
We're right on the line, too.
tim pool
Chris Cronin says, His name was Duncan Lemp.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Eggman says, If Lydia is your Jamie and skateboarding is your MMA, what is your DMT?
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
Let me think.
adam crigler
It's a secret sauce that he mixes.
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
He has his own recipe.
adam crigler
And he puts it on everything.
tim pool
It's amazing.
unidentified
It is so good.
adam crigler
He puts it on everything.
tim pool
I'll pull out a bottle, and people will be like, what is that?
And I'll be like, it's a very secret recipe.
lydia smith
He showed me.
tim pool
I'm only going to tell you one time, so pay attention.
Because if you don't listen, you'll miss it, and you'll never know how to make it.
And they're like, OK, what is it?
I'm like, first, you take mayonnaise, and then you mix in barbecue sauce.
unidentified
And that's it.
tim pool
But I do put it on almost everything.
lydia smith
It's so good, guys.
Try it.
tim pool
Yeah, well, it tastes like Chick-fil-A sauce.
unidentified
Yeah, it does.
tim pool
That's basically what it is.
But people are confused, like, what is it?
I'm like, dude, I just put mayo in my barbecue sauce bottle.
It's not even a big deal.
I don't even know why you guys bring it up.
adam crigler
Because you don't drink.
You don't do anything DMT related.
So it's like, what do you do?
You eat food.
tim pool
That's it.
We got to figure out what we can say.
I don't know.
There's no DMT.
But yeah, skateboarding is like our AMA.
adam crigler
MMA.
tim pool
Yeah, but MMA is super popular.
Skateboarding is too, but skateboarding is nowhere near as popular as MMA.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
You don't get like primetime pay-per-view street league skateboarding.
adam crigler
economy and it wouldn't it would never go there now
tim pool
maybe in like 1999 Tony Hawk does the 900 and all of a sudden
video games were you know it had it's time
you know what I think it is though it's because I think skateboarding is
entering the Olympics And the teams have been set up.
Now it's postponed, but I think that'll change things.
I think Olympic skateboarding is going to make skateboarders extremely wealthy.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
tim pool
Ridiculously wealthy.
adam crigler
I mean, look at Naija, man.
He's got, driving around with Lamborghinis.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Dude's rolling in and out.
tim pool
There's like a small handful of skateboarders who are all extremely rich.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I mean, granted, he's incredible.
Yeah.
pro athlete so clean at all the stricken he's he might be one of the better best skateboarders on
the planet early me and i'm one x games like
tim pool
for five years or so it's just that that might not be accurate when he competes
it seems like he refuses to lose and so someone to a crazy trick and i'll be a little bit of
a slow down He's like, I could do that.
adam crigler
He's like, I'm gonna do better than that.
What makes him so good is he's good under pressure.
It's like if you put the camera on him, he's like, I'm gonna land this trick then.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Poof, and he lands it.
It's like, geez.
tim pool
Chris Joslin's tre flip at El Toro.
adam crigler
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
Wow.
Tre flip heard around the world, man.
adam crigler
We got some good skating in today, too.
tim pool
Yeah, I had fun.
adam crigler
It was a nice out day.
tim pool
Yeah, I got nollie tre like almost right away, and I got a switch hard flip in there and front feeble.
adam crigler
I landed a half cab flip for the first time ever.
tim pool
There you go.
adam crigler
That was nice.
It felt good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What I like to do is like, you know, I've been skating for so long, I've done most of these tricks.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like every year, I mentioned this before, like every year I go through a new like, okay, I have to check mark all the tricks I haven't done yet to make sure I'm going through all of them.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You got that feeble, that long feeble right on the ramp.
That was pretty good.
adam crigler
So actually, you know what?
That was the first time I've ever done that too.
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's, that's a weird grind to do on a ramp.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It was weird.
adam crigler
I got caught up a lot, but I saw you trying to do that feeble on the rail and I was like, I want to do that.
tim pool
Right on.
adam crigler
And I did!
tim pool
Felt great.
Chuck Morris says, as a cop, if I see a beanie, shoot first.
No!
unidentified
Don't!
lydia smith
No, no, no!
adam crigler
Hey, man.
tim pool
Here's one.
Left is insane.
He says, Hey, Floorbows, can you do a segment on psychedelics, treating anxiety, and drug abuse?
lydia smith
We were- Sorry.
unidentified
Go on.
tim pool
He says, I used to have a drug problem and it helped.
LSD also made my dreams more vivid and showed flaws in my personality.
adam crigler
It's nice that some states are actually starting to do research into this and it's wonderful because it actually can help people.
tim pool
You ever see that libertarian t-shirt that says something like, I wanna pay for my gay wedding with bitcoin while smoking pot and firing my guns or something like that?
adam crigler
Yeah, I have seen that.
tim pool
It's like, where is the politician for that stuff?
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
I mean, but how many people agree with that?
tim pool
Yeah, I guess it's the problem.
You know why the general libertarian, whatever you want to call it, they're not all unified in terms of policy completely.
But I'll tell you this, I'd rather have a right libertarian kind of system where it's just sort of more of a free market free-for-all than anything else if I had to, because you can build whatever system you want within it.
Yeah, that's true. So if like our country was extremely libertarian, it's like, okay, well,
I will set up my own whatever I want with my own rules. It's something Ron Paul said. I think it
was Ron Paul. He said, so nothing is stopping any socialist from creating their own socialist town
and creating their socialist rules and creating a commune.
Why aren't they doing it? And some actually are. Yeah.
There's a very famous commune, and you gotta apply to get in, and they do it right.
They all farm, they all work really, really hard.
And I think people don't realize, the reason why they don't do it, the people who claim they want it, is because they don't realize you work all day, every day.
adam crigler
Yeah.
They're lazy.
tim pool
We Americans are wealthy, fat, and happy.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Very much so.
Michael Connor says, Hospital I work for notified us that we'll be using PTO this month as it comes out of a separate bank.
I'm expecting layoff soon, corporate side.
This is the apocalypse.
adam crigler
What does that mean?
PTO?
What's that?
tim pool
Pay time off.
I think.
But check this out.
People are saying, we can't, you know, there's a viral meme.
It's got like 150,000 retweets on Twitter and it's the trolley problem.
adam crigler
I saw that.
tim pool
The trolley is on one track and there's people and it says, you can stop the trolley at any time, but it would cause a loss of profits for the trolley corporation.
And it is funny, but they don't seem to understand that if there's no economy, there are no medical workers.
adam crigler
That's also true.
tim pool
So if the hospital can't pay for anything, they run out of money, why would a nurse or doctor continue working if they can't pay their bills, eat food, or pay their rent?
They'll have to move on to survive.
adam crigler
So they're risking their lives for nothing, then.
tim pool
Some will.
Many of them will, I'm pretty sure.
It's respectable.
They're there to save lives regardless.
adam crigler
That's why they started that job in the first place.
tim pool
Here's the other issue, though.
Even if we do give them money, if you can't buy anything with it, Why would you keep working there?
So it's an issue of, look, the government can keep printing money, and eventually the money becomes worthless.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
That's not gonna work.
The economy's gotta reopen.
It's really annoying to me to see, like, there was a viral thread, the Young Turks guy was pushing it out, where a guy says, this is proof that if they really wanted to, they could do universal healthcare.
And I'm like, bro, a one-time $6 trillion infusion is not the same as a consistent $30 trillion or $3 trillion infusion every year that dramatically inflates or deflates our currency and cause it to be worthless.
People would be racing.
We've seen what countries do when the money machine just keeps printing out, and then they have bags of money that nobody wants.
All right, Carl Schneider says, Tim, don't forget you're appearing on Crowder's show in a few minutes.
Oh, yes, I am.
What time is it?
All right, we're on Crowder now.
David Campbell says, it was prerecorded.
Lydia's cam is taking too long, so I'm just going to pretend she is a talking globe UFO, depending on the week.
adam crigler
There we go.
Or the subject.
tim pool
John McCloud says, have a 20 face mask order from the manager of the inn inside the gated community I guard after he saw the mask I was wearing that I made.
Cool.
John Smith says, PSA, 4 billion in aid to Israel are military vouchers.
They can only spend it on American military equipment.
This is so Israel is dependent on U.S.
and won't make close ties with Russia or China.
Not nefarious.
Interesting.
And the money that's spent on U.S.
equipment is made, to a certain degree, it's spent in the United States.
People don't realize that as well when they complain about, like, wasting money overseas.
We definitely do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But when research is being done in this country, when engineering is being done in development, It's people here, you know, who are paid to do it.
Kevin Thompson said, Tim, watch Beastars.
All right.
ML says, please consider changing the font or color of IRL thumbnails.
It would help to differentiate on my feed.
Y'all rock, though.
We have been talking about that.
We need to figure out.
adam crigler
I actually thought about that today, too.
And I was like, maybe we should do that.
tim pool
But it's interesting that There's a shadow on them, but on my channels, I always fade the image so that behind the text it's just black.
unidentified
So you can read it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't fade the image.
It gets really confusing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So we have to fix that.
Jessica Cora says, I've lost all purpose.
Went from working 80 hours a week to sitting at home.
What can we do to stay sane?
Build something?
lydia smith
I love crochet stuff.
tim pool
Ooh, I know, I know.
Take something that people need, put a clock in it.
Right?
People need to know what time it is. I'm not kidding. It's an old joke from the 90s. It's like a Seinfeld joke.
unidentified
It's true.
tim pool
They actually used to do that though.
adam crigler
It reminds me of, uh, Zooby tweeted something. He said, you know, I'm reading a
lot that people are bored.
You know, why are people bored? Have they reached all of their life goals?
Because if so, okay, I guess you can be bored.
But if not, what are you waiting for?
Now, you worked 80 hours a week, so obviously you are used to working a lot.
I don't know what field you were in, but what's your passion project?
What's your grand goals?
Maybe you can start working towards that.
tim pool
So, hey, Jesus, life coach.
adam crigler
Hey, I'm going off something Zuby said.
tim pool
It's true though.
adam crigler
I don't agree with everything he says, but he does have some good stuff.
lydia smith
Well, if you don't have a violin, you can't.
tim pool
I mean, it's hard.
Play the spoons.
lydia smith
Learn to play the spoons.
Learn to play a comb.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
I'm sure there's something you can work on.
tim pool
You can order stuff online still.
Amazon's still working.
adam crigler
You can, yeah, for sure.
I mean, don't spend money.
That's not a life goal.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
You should spend money.
adam crigler
Sure, spend money.
I'm talking about like a life goal, you know?
Something a little more... Long-term.
You know, spending money probably doesn't have... Write a book.
Sure, I mean, if you had goals to write a book, this is the perfect opportunity to do that.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
What could you do?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Exercise?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Get fit?
adam crigler
True.
You could do that too.
lydia smith
Yoga?
tim pool
Yeah, yoga.
adam crigler
If it's a life goal, get to it.
tim pool
John Smith says, Adam with short hair looks like Michael Fassbender.
adam crigler
Cool.
unidentified
Thanks.
adam crigler
He's awesome.
unidentified
I love that guy.
tim pool
He's cool, dude.
STFU says, Tim, look up LA Sheriff Donald P. Scott.
They appraised his ranch before a raid, claiming it was a pot farm.
They killed him and took his place.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
California's frickin' dude.
lydia smith
That was a long time ago.
tim pool
There's scary stories about California towns.
adam crigler
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Wild, wild west.
adam crigler
Geez.
tim pool
The Red Bike Master says, according to the case law, police have no duty to protect.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Yeah, I've heard that.
tim pool
Fearless Soldier.
Aren't you supposed to be live with Steven Crowder?
I am.
I don't know if people know that he does pre-recorded interviews.
And I'm like, I don't know if that's an issue.
I don't know.
Like, we did it yesterday.
adam crigler
Well, the cat's out of the bag.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I was just like, I guess... We were talking about it before we went live.
I was like, oh, dude, I'm on Crowder tonight.
And, you know, Adam was like, oh, so that means, like, what, you have to do the show?
I'm like, no, no, no, no.
Like, I'm on and I'm on this show.
Like, both at the same time.
adam crigler
Yeah, I thought that you were gonna actually, like, be on the show.
So you're gonna be like, all right, for the next 20 minutes, we'll, we're gonna, you're gonna see a blank screen.
We're gonna cut to just Soy Jesus and the guitar.
And then I'll just like sit there playing for 10, 20, 15 minutes.
ten twenty fifteen and it's really a that that that that that that that that
tim pool
alone that's not All right.
Bobcat says, why are ERPOs allowed to be served in the wee hours of the morning, even ignoring their blatant violation of due process?
It's bad tactics.
So that's the extreme risk protection orders.
Dude, seriously.
adam crigler
Why?
What is the point?
I don't get it.
tim pool
And why don't they issue, at first, a warning saying, you know, uh, you have, you have, you have been warned in the next, you know, 24 hours or whatever, a war officer will be arriving.
adam crigler
Please, you know, So they at least know not to shoot the police, not to have a shootout.
tim pool
Or shouldn't.
adam crigler
That's what blows me away.
It's like, as far as I'm concerned, anyone who owns a gun has it for protection.
For the most part.
So if someone comes into their house, they're probably going to shoot them.
tim pool
Think about how crazy it is.
adam crigler
What are they expecting?
It's like they want to be shot or shot at so they can shoot people.
It's crazy.
I don't understand it at all.
tim pool
Well, it's because humans are dumb.
unidentified
Oh.
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
adam crigler
Thank you, Tim.
tim pool
I'll put it this way.
George Carlin said, think about how stupid the average person is.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Now realize half of them are stupider than that.
It's that half of them stupider than that that hear something that sounds like it makes sense without investigating and just say, do it.
And so you see these big news stories of like, you know, mass tragic events.
And no one actually investigates or looks into it.
They have an emotional knee-jerk reaction.
And then some politician wanting to get elected just says, Yes, we will ban them.
No one knows anything about them.
No one looks at any of the stats.
Handguns are used in more shootings than rifles, but rifles are what they want to ban.
It makes no sense.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Not only that, but they ban things based on cosmetics.
It's just politicians.
They want the keys to the castle.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
There's no legitimate argument.
adam crigler
They also want the cash from the lobbyists.
Totally.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's a big thing, too.
Makes no sense.
tim pool
The weird thing to me about, like, the anti-NRA argument is, like, you know, you see these activists saying, like, we're coming for you, NRA!
It's like, the NRA is a non—it's like, they're—my understanding is they're a nonprofit, and they function based off of a ton of members.
It's not like there's an evil, you know, Dr. Doom, Going, now that I've convinced all of these people to be dupes, I will do whatever I want.
No, it's all of the people contacting the NRA and saying, here's what we want you to do.
And they're like, yes.
It's like a coalition of Americans.
Yeah.
I'd be more concerned about the government doing these things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Agreed.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
How long do you think it is until somebody's violated quarantine and they get killed?
unidentified
Oh gosh.
adam crigler
Not long.
lydia smith
I don't want to go down that path.
tim pool
And it's not going to be because they're violating quarantine.
Someone will be violating quarantine.
There's going to be some cop who gets scared, thinks he has a weapon.
There you go.
It'll happen.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
I see it happening.
You're right.
tim pool
Trent, thanks for the super chat.
Student of History says... Uh-oh.
We just got a super chat jump.
I love when they do this.
lydia smith
Super jump.
tim pool
Super jump.
And now we're starting to get inundated.
lydia smith
Warp speed.
tim pool
Student of History says, You know what's really challenging?
raids are going to get people killed.
Take people at their word, my cold dead hands means it.
The people who pass these laws should be at the front of the stack.
You know what's really challenging is like, do we just say, well it's the law, we have
to obey it?
At what point do you say it's an unjust law that must be resisted?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
More importantly, if I said right now, asserted a position on when and how you should resist, YouTube would delete this in two seconds.
Which means the default will always be media pundits and personalities saying, no, no, the law is just, you must always follow it.
Nah, I mean, there's a line for me, I'll say right now, unjust laws should not be supported in any capacity.
And I talk about this all the time with like the Extinction Rebellion people and other activists who get arrested.
There's a line for me, like if you go around smashing windows starting fire, like you should be arrested.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
And I'll tell you this, if you block a road and hold up a sign, you should also be arrested.
But that, to me, is socially acceptable.
Civil disobedience that's disruptive and non-violent, I think, is what we need to do to push the boundaries of certain things.
And there are certain things that should not be illegal.
There's a guy named Moxie Marlin Spike.
He's a famous hacker.
And I was asking him about the problem of surveillance states.
And he said, if the government knew everything you were doing all the time, They would, you smoke pot, and then they show up and they arrest you, right?
But we're now starting to legalize pot, like, recreationally in all these different states.
How would we know that we want it to be, you know, legal recreationally unless people were actually smoking it illegally?
And I said, that's a really good point.
adam crigler
Hmm.
tim pool
So right.
If nobody was smoking because the government said no, and they had a surveillance state, then we would eventually just default into harder and harder authoritarianism.
There would never be an opportunity for repealing laws or decriminalizing things.
It would always just get worse.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then eventually people are sitting in a gray cubicle, wearing a gray jumpsuit, their heads shaved, just like shaking, wondering, like they move their hand to grab a scissors.
And then the cop's like, ah!
Got you.
That's an improper use of scissors.
adam crigler
Scissor grabber.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know a cop could pull you over for stopping at a yellow light?
And a cop could pull you over for going through a yellow light.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know.
I figured that out.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
How's this supposed to work?
tim pool
Yeah.
Because stopping abruptly is negligence.
can cause an accident and trying to speed up to catch a yellow light is...
Oh, you started speeding.
lydia smith
It's a law.
tim pool
Yeah.
And depending on jurisdiction, it's like there's literally nothing you can do.
If they want to, it's illegal.
Yep.
Welcome to the future, especially with what's going on with the coronavirus.
unidentified
Yay!
tim pool
Super Bam Bam says, did you see that movie Cuck?
Ended up bombing in the box office.
It was a movie meant to attack those on the right.
lydia smith
I did not see that movie.
tim pool
I didn't even notice.
Bad marketing.
adam crigler
Straight to DVD.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Get woke, go broke.
Crash says, get charged for domestic abuse, Tim.
Then all your rights go poof.
And you get into a fight with a woman, who are the cops going to believe 90% of the time, huh?
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Never settle.
Always fight.
Always defend yourself.
I mean, legally, you know.
If someone comes at you, you defend yourself.
You do not just bend over.
The Great Dub Dude says, I just want a simple beanie that says, it's complicated or here's the thing.
lydia smith
We're working on it.
tim pool
We'll figure it out.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Once they open up.
tim pool
Yeah.
After the apocalypse is over and we're, you know, we're Mad Maxing it up.
Yeah.
Nathan says, a guy I work with said the government should suspend the whole constitution to give them the ability to get a hold of this virus.
I told him that's insane.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Agreed.
adam crigler
That's insane.
tim pool
He can move to China.
Actually, he probably can't because they're super racist.
lydia smith
Yeah, he can't move.
tim pool
Oh, really?
Vo Kuhn says, these people are freaking demons.
Make fun of me all you want, but Hillary Clinton is a gosh darn demon.
That's a quote from Alex Jones.
Oh, really?
He actually said, make fun of me all you want.
unidentified
These people are god darn demons.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's why they used him for that doom clip.
tim pool
That was awesome.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's what it was.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, figuratively, I think they're demons.
You know, they're just like nasty people.
lydia smith
Alex Jones quote is gold.
tim pool
Yeah.
Rainek says China lied.
50,000 plus died.
That's true.
Harry Potter says there's already cameras in all of the TVs, Tim.
Well, it's a funny thing happened.
I went to... I was at Best Buy with Luke.
Luke of We Are Change.
You guys might know him.
And he was like, I don't want to get a smart TV because, you know, you never know what they put in.
There could be cameras or Wi-Fi or something.
And the Best Buy guy was like, oh yeah, dude, you have no idea.
And I was like, wait, what?
The Best Buy guy's telling me this?
adam crigler
Wait, what?
tim pool
Yeah, Luke was right.
lydia smith
I was like... Luke is right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, I don't know.
But the Best Buy guy was like, yeah, dude, like I've been reading all this stuff.
Which TV did you want again?
And I'm like, The smart TV and he's like, yeah, so anyway, there's like microphones, you know, and they're like It's true that there's there's microphones in them though, right?
adam crigler
Cuz it's like the their voice activation echo speakers that right be like, hey put this show on and they can do that Those things are always listening.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a fact.
adam crigler
I know we did that segment on it.
tim pool
Yep They they like we did a segment on it.
They lie about it but they use weasel words to say things like you'll ask them and Is it always recording?
And instead of saying yes or no, they'll say, well, the, you know, whatever device activates upon saying its name, and then it begins recording.
unidentified
How does it activate?
tim pool
You didn't answer my question.
Is it always listening?
Well, you see the device activates only when you say its name.
That's not what I asked you.
Answer the question.
adam crigler
The device only eats ice cream when you're saying its name.
tim pool
If you said that the Amazon or Google device, they're always listening.
Snopes would write, is it true that Amazon's device is always listening while you're eating ice cream?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
No, it's not.
unidentified
And it'll be like, no, it'll say false.
tim pool
And it'll say, there's nothing to suggest that the act of eating ice cream would trigger this to record anything you were saying.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
But then people just see the false.
And at the bottom it's like, well, it is true.
It's always on and recording everything you say.
There's no correlation between you and ice cream.
lydia smith
You're not saying anything.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
So it's not listening.
tim pool
There you go.
No, it is always on.
It's always listening.
lydia smith
That's how it activates when you say its name.
tim pool
I don't know about cameras.
You know, I didn't, I don't know about that, but I know there's like, there's microphones in them.
lydia smith
Don't like it.
tim pool
Here we go.
What is this?
Talbot says, did y'all see DeFranco peed off today?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
What does that mean?
adam crigler
Peed off?
lydia smith
Philip DeFranco got ticked off about something?
tim pool
Did he?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Oh, I don't know, DM Ed.
This is news to me.
Yeah.
So when that whole thing happened with Jim Acosta.
What thing?
adam crigler
What are you talking about?
tim pool
And the woman in the White House, where he went to grab her microphone.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I watched that in great detail and it was insane.
They were claiming that Trump was sharing a doctored video because frames were missing and it's like just completely made up.
What it looked like to me was that the woman was holding the mic and Acosta grabbed it from her.
But it was one of these things where it was like, is the dress blue and black or white and gold or something?
I cannot agree.
Yeah, and Philip DeFranco messaged me and he was like, do you really think that he grabbed this?
Like, I can't believe it.
Just completely stunned that, you know, and I was like, that's crazy that we both see this completely differently.
lydia smith
Looking at the same thing, right.
tim pool
But I will add, I like Phil.
I think he's a cool dude.
I think his show's fine.
But he was on the wrong side of the Covington thing.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, nobody's perfect.
I'm not trying to drag the guy.
Let's see, where are we at?
Chant says, can we get an anime character on the table?
Oh, I do!
I've got One Punch Man and I've got Android 18.
We could, yeah, we could, we could, oh!
We might be able to get.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't want to crowd the table, all right?
tim pool
No, no, no, but what if we put One Punch Man on the UFO so he's spinning around?
adam crigler
Well, he'd get in my close-up shot.
lydia smith
That's true.
Oh, we can't block Adam out.
tim pool
But he's a little.
unidentified
It would be cool.
lydia smith
Oh, he's like tiny?
Yeah, he's a little thing.
We'll have to play around with it.
adam crigler
I think having her face is way funnier than having One Punch Man on there.
That's true.
tim pool
We could put One Punch Man on the globe.
lydia smith
On top of the world.
tim pool
But he wouldn't spin with the globe.
unidentified
Oh, boo.
adam crigler
Oh, no, he wouldn't.
No.
That would look weird.
tim pool
Yeah.
Charles says, look up Caleb James' coal red flag case.
We'll check it out.
Chuck Moore says, time to start selling the not-soy shot glass.
There you go.
adam crigler
Not-soy.
tim pool
Andrew Hoft says, hey Tim, in your honest opinion, do you think the collapse of civilization will be a slow and painful process or a quick and less painful process?
Also, giving everything going with COVID-19, you should start coming with good names for your beanie babies.
I think the apocalypse is going to be, it's like a rollercoaster.
You're slowly getting to the peak, and then you slowly, and then boom, it's going to be crazy.
Dude, the post office is shutting down.
Not completely.
But people have found out, like they go outside, their mail's not there.
And then they call and they're like, we've suspended delivery to you.
So the point I was making earlier is you've got record gun sales.
You've got 6.6 million unemployment claims.
In the past two weeks, 10 million unemployment claims.
That completely shatters.
So what people were saying when the first report came out of 3.3 million, they were like, yes, it's high, but it's not the greatest it's ever been.
You see, because it all happened at once, people don't seem to realize that throughout the Great Recession, which was, you know, 10 or 12 months, that unemployment claims actually totaled this, you know, 7 million number.
The chart is crazy.
adam crigler
Two weeks.
tim pool
Two weeks.
10 million total claims.
adam crigler
That chart is crazy.
tim pool
So I don't know if that, I think it might be repeat claims for sure.
But I could be wrong about this.
adam crigler
Some people trying to get it again because the first one didn't go through.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
My understanding is that every week you call and you say, I would like to, you
lydia smith
know, unemployed.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But I don't know what they mean by that.
Yeah, because every week you're supposed to call to update and they ask you questions.
It could be new claims, so it could be 10 million people.
But you add all that together, and with, you know, people buying guns, you know, like crazy, mass unemployment, the hospital workers are starting to get pay suspended and shut off.
If we can't even have hospital workers in the hospitals, then COVID's gonna wipe everyone out anyway.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
But the post office, This is the first crack in the government.
Not necessarily the first crack, but it's a crack in the government.
And what people don't seem to get about government, it's all based on confidence.
If you had no confidence that the money in your hand would get you something, you wouldn't value it.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
So if people are not coming to a point where the post office, they have no confidence in getting their deliveries, they stop using it.
If people don't have confidence in their local police department, they stop calling.
They stop relying on any of it.
Or they stop abiding by the laws.
If I don't think, you know, I shouldn't say I, but if someone's like, the cops aren't going to enforce anything anyway, then they do whatever they want.
lydia smith
I'm gonna take things into my own hands for good and bad.
tim pool
Not even about that, but like, oh, I can't do a U-turn here.
Well, there's no cops anymore.
I'll do a U-turn.
What's the big deal?
And then that's when things start to... We'll see how it plays out.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
The Red Bike Masters.
Adam, get it right.
It's the great state of Texas, not just Texas.
Adam, how dare you?
lydia smith
I'm so sorry.
adam crigler
Excuse me.
tim pool
Alright, I'm gonna speed things up now.
adam crigler
I gotta say, though, I do love Texas.
unidentified
Texas is a cool place.
adam crigler
I don't like driving through Texas.
lydia smith
Texas sucks to drive through.
adam crigler
But the state is great.
And everyone that I've met in Texas, in the great state of Texas, is awesome.
tim pool
There you go.
Alright, I'm gonna start speeding things up on these Super Chats, so I apologize if I can't get to you.
lydia smith
Super fast.
tim pool
Grant Thompson says, thanks for providing solid content, Tim.
When do you buy yourself a firearm?
When you do buy yourself a firearm, I suggest getting a 9mm.
Either a Sig Sauer if you're getting a semi-auto or a Chiappa Rhino if you're getting a revolver.
Love and respect from BC.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Yeah, I gotta write an essay.
We'll see how that plays out.
Everything's kind of shut down now anyway.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Sup, bro?
I find it funny.
Independent women goes out of the window these days.
Just being honest, this pandemic is not going to be fun for a lot of women because since a lot of men refuse to marry.
Well, it's one of the things we definitely talked about that...
lydia smith
It is not women.
It is feminists.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
I am perfectly happy.
I'm perfectly comfortable.
I'm not upset at all about this.
Like, I don't get it.
Sorry, I'll let you carry on.
tim pool
Social justice is... It's a luxury politics.
lydia smith
It is, yeah.
tim pool
You know, this... You can't go out in March for... And it is kind of scary to a certain degree because people fighting for civil rights has been a good thing in most circumstances.
I say most because these authoritarian weirdos who claim to be fighting for it are not.
But like, when you're at war, they suspend civil liberties.
And it's scary.
And I don't know if I agree with it, but I think it was Glenn Greenwald and Kyle Kulinski, they're very progressive, were tweeting about the begrudging feeling where you have a desire for state authority to protect us from the virus while being a very anti-authoritarian, liberty-minded individual.
I don't know what the solution is.
Because why should I just trust the government on all of this stuff?
I mean, it's easy now.
Like, watching what's going on in other countries, you don't gotta worry about what the U.S.
is... the U.S.
is lying to you because it's, like, happening everywhere.
But if it was something else where it's only happening in the U.S., it's... I don't blindly trust anybody, you know?
unidentified
Well, at least of all the government.
tim pool
K98 says, Reality is a battlescape of minds, and the only guarantee of liberty is to take control of the warping of your own.
So spit on the sacred, exalt the profane, and transgress the norm.
unidentified
Hail Azathoth.
tim pool
The Price is Right says, I respectfully question your statement on the baby blip.
When I see you do videos on why marriage rates are low and the divorce surge in this pandemic, it's really not going to be fun for a lot of women.
Yeah.
Stevie says, is there any new COVID gun owners without, if there's any new COVID gun owners without knowledge, I'd be happy to help teach the basics locally, Dallas-Fort Worth, over chat, or over chat.
And then he says, same name, SZettle on Discord, just want y'all to stay safe and healthy.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Benito says, live in California, just got news my big bro is coming down from up north because they canceled classes for academy, corrections.
Apparently a sergeant got infected, really happy he's coming home, but also scared and worried.
unidentified
Oh, jeez.
tim pool
Let's see.
Shougoff, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Vashed says, mayo is condiment of the gods.
Also, what type of barbecue?
Sweet Baby Ray's, bro.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Always.
adam crigler
Yep, Sweet Baby Ray's.
tim pool
The sauce is the boss.
There's no other sauce.
adam crigler
My dad always used that, too.
tim pool
John, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
And it just jumped on me again.
I love it when it does that.
It's very, very fun.
There we go.
Connor says, no knock raids are one of the reasons you see people like me at Home Depot in a Hawaiian shirt buying a couple hundred pounds of fertilizer and 50 boxes of nails.
Haha, alphabet boy go boom.
No, no, no, no, no, not funny.
Zachariah Kitzman says, the idea about the early morning raids is that they are safer for the police officers serving the warrant.
Arguably, it's untrue, as seen by these stories, and I'll never serve one as a police officer, but that's the idea.
Matthew says, look into the Bronze Age Collapse.
Normally, global economic collapse precedes each Dark Age.
Oh yeah.
Chet Chisholm says, the worst cop was when went for a girl who had been raped and tried to OD on meds.
We were trying to calm her and get her to come with us.
He threatened to put her in cuffs and take her to the ER.
unidentified
Man.
tim pool
Charlie, thanks for becoming a member.
Sesh Miu says, as a life member of the NRA, never get a life membership of these organizations.
NRA does defend, uh, does, you mean does not defend our rights anymore?
The GOA, which I am a member, not life member, is fighting for our two A rights.
Daniel says Android 18, which I do have a little Android 18 figure.
Ironic.
How does that work?
Google Home devices are definitely always listening.
You can turn off the mic and say, hey, Google, it will tell you it can't hear you because
the mic is turned off.
lydia smith
Ironic.
unidentified
How does that work?
tim pool
That's so crazy, man.
I can hear you.
lydia smith
I can tell you that I can't hear you.
tim pool
Student of History says, comparing modern SJWs to the Civil Rights Movement is like
comparing Mussolini's Italy to the Roman Empire.
Yeah, they're not civil rights.
They're people who are like, if you call me a name, that's violence.
No, it's not.
And the people who are being attacked by dogs and sprayed with hoses were fighting for civil rights.
Eve Welcome says, for more content that's not COVID, look into solar cycles and Valentina Zarkova's work.
She predicts an extended period of low solar activity, and she was right about solar cycle 24 being weaker than cycle 23.
Well, we'll see it.
LB John says, love the show, Tim.
If you want to understand the danger of red flag laws even further, you should interview a YouTube called The Philosopher.
There you go.
All right.
adam crigler
Well, speaking of those red sunglasses... Hold on, before we move on, I just want to... I saw this one random comment that said, Tim's not the kind of guy who would shoot someone, but Adam is.
And Lydia probably has a machine gun.
And I was like, that is hilarious.
lydia smith
Oh, they got us down.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
I would agree with that.
adam crigler
I would too.
tim pool
See, what I would do is I would sneak up and disable a person.
adam crigler
And I wouldn't shoot to kill.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
But for real, like... No.
So if someone was like breaking into my house, my first instinct would not be to like to grab the weapon and go charging and be like, it would be to like, yeah, surprise attack.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And to go for like a disabling move like a headlock or something.
Yeah, and take them down.
adam crigler
I think you'd kind of just be like, Yeah, I would be really like tactical with it. Yeah, and
Lydia would have a machine gun like Metal Gear Solid Was an awesome game. I did pretty heavy back in the day.
unidentified
Yeah, man. He's ready I love this subject and I got really good aim don't mess
adam crigler
with me Okay.
tim pool
Wired writes, this is not the apocalypse you were looking for.
Pop culture has been inundated with catastrophe porn for decades.
None of it has prepared us for our new reality.
And they have this picture, I guess it's like a zombie hand coming out of the dirt.
But yes, here's what they say.
The shock itself is shocking.
Shouldn't we have been more prepared?
Hasn't culture been drenched in catastrophe porn for decades?
The bomb, the breakdown, the fallout, the senseless armies of shambling corpses, all the nightmares of dead generations sliding out of our screens?
For more than a decade, young and youngish people have been living in anticipatory grief for everything we know, but somehow this is different.
The idea of imminent, annihilating catastrophe has been part of the collective unconscious for as long as we've had one.
From the end date of the Mayan calendar, to the Epic of Gilgamesh, from the Genesis Flood to the Book of Revelations, humans have been haunted by the idea of the end of everything for a very, very long time.
Lately, it's been our default popular entertainment.
Raised with the threat of global warming, in the teeth of a financial crisis, we sat stunned and exhausted watching our civilization die on screen again.
And again.
More post-apocalyptic entertainment has come out in the beginning of this century than in the entirety of the last one.
The Day After Tomorrow, Zombieland, The Walking Dead, The Road, Children of Men, The Last of Us.
The same story again and again.
Somewhere between wish fulfillment and trauma rehearsal, getting us used to the idea that the future was cancelled, that someday, soon, everything would collapse, and there would be nothing left, and nothing we could do about it.
You know, I love, I love this, I love this.
Everybody who is, you know, watching these films, and pretending like it would be fun.
And the sad reality was, For now, we're not roaming the streets, fighting over food, questioning the person in the gas station, asking them whose side they're on, or anything like that.
adam crigler
No, we still got some time.
It still feels like we have some semblance of the norm.
tim pool
I think we're closer than we've ever been.
adam crigler
I agree with you completely.
tim pool
But for now, it's the waiting I can't stand.
Either pull the trigger on the collapse of civilization, or let us get on with our boring routines.
Right, exactly.
I think we are dangerously closer to it than we've ever been.
We've mentioned this before, and I think it's interesting that people glorify and fantasize about this stuff.
They couldn't handle it.
adam crigler
And none of those movies are the after side of it.
It's always right when it's happening, like, oh man, we gotta escape this volcano, or escape this tsunami wave, Right.
You know, travel south and it's like during the, you know, everything hitting the fan, you know, but then it's like, okay, then what?
Then what do you do?
You don't have seeds.
You don't have food.
You know, you got to find water somewhere, but it's like they don't, those, none of these movies are showing that part.
Like the, the real gritty part of life that is, is like people starving to death.
Cause it's not exciting.
tim pool
It's eating each other.
adam crigler
Yeah, eating each other, straight up.
tim pool
You don't understand how many people are on this planet.
New York's scary.
You know what the good thing about this going kind of slow is?
People getting out of New York.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
Because if the collapse happened overnight, people in New York would go full-on cannibalistic humanoid underground dweller in days.
No more food, no more water.
People will be swimming to get out.
There are going to be people who are going to be trapped.
They don't know where they can go, and they're going to be desperate.
There's going to be fighting.
There's going to be... Man, dude, New York is going to be literal hell.
Like, people with guns, looking for food, and you have a building in New York with, you know, 10 or 12 floors, and, like, several apartments on each floor, and they're going to be going methodically through each one.
adam crigler
Yep.
Certain.
tim pool
You live in the middle of nowhere.
You set up a couple of auto-defense turrets right around the property, and you turn them on, and you go to sleep.
Everything's good.
No, I'm kidding.
But you obviously have much less to worry about when you're surrounded by a lot less people.
I would really love to see how people would respond to a full on apocalyptic scenario.
Like how you could simulate that to see how humans react to it.
I don't know.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's a good point, because there's so much, like, the spectrum of, like, humanity-ending stuff could be anything, from, I don't know, a huge, crazy solar flare that completely, you know, wrecks us, a massive asteroid, super volcano, I don't know, I'm just rapping off the top of my head.
tim pool
Here's some advice.
A microwave is a Faraday cage.
I think.
adam crigler
So jump in the microwave and close it and you're safe.
tim pool
Put your phone.
So I actually know a lot of people who do this.
I don't know if this is legit, but I know people who have microwaves in their basement and they have a brand new cell phone in it.
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
But why?
unidentified
So that when the EMP hits... Oh, like it hasn't been used yet?
tim pool
Or with like, they preload apps and stuff on it.
adam crigler
So when the EMP hits and all the satellites are completely destroyed?
tim pool
You will have the summation of human knowledge in your pocket and you will be king.
adam crigler
Oh, I see, okay.
lydia smith
You can download the manuals and stuff.
tim pool
You can download Wikipedia, it's like seven gigs.
You can download survival guides, science, how to make wire, how to start fire, all that stuff.
adam crigler
I did get a survival guide and I was scrolling through it and it's amazing the amount of stuff that's on it.
tim pool
It's pretty cool.
Think about how powerful a calculator is.
Just a calculator.
Yeah.
Like that was a premise for I think, there was like a Justice League series
where, I can't remember what the guy's name is, Savage, sent a laptop, just a laptop, regular old laptop,
from like 2005 to himself during World War II.
Okay.
And that simple bit of technology was so powerful compared to the rest of the world.
They were able to rapidly develop crazy weapons and completely win.
And it's, dude, if, uh, whatever happens, having a smartphone?
Yeah, man.
So I know, yeah, people will like, I know some people, they have like, you know, a little nook in their basement, they'll put a microwave in it, they'll put like, put stuff around it.
And I'm like, that might not be enough.
You might need more than that.
lydia smith
So what is the advantage of having a phone with this stuff loaded on it when you could have like a survival book?
tim pool
You could have both.
What do you mean?
lydia smith
Well, I mean, obviously.
tim pool
The book you just put on the shelf.
lydia smith
Your phone, the battery will run out before too long.
tim pool
Get a solar panel.
adam crigler
I actually have a little backpack unfolding from Goal Zero, just like a, you know, you throw it out in the sun, you plug in, I have a little battery pack, you plug it in, I can charge my laptop, my phone.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, it's awesome.
unidentified
It's great.
tim pool
I don't know if I told this story yet to you guys, but during Occupy Wall Street, someone donated farmland.
Did I tell you guys this story?
adam crigler
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
Somebody donated farmland and this is like hearsay, so I know there's probably some Occupy people are going to be like, that's not true or whatever, but okay, whatever.
Here's what someone told me.
Someone donated farmland and a bunch of Occupy Wall Street people who wanted to get off the grid.
They didn't want to be a part of society and capitalism and like destruction of the planet.
So they went to move to a farm.
And guess how long they lasted?
adam crigler
Two days.
tim pool
What did you guess?
lydia smith
Also two days.
tim pool
You got caught in some slack.
It was about two weeks.
lydia smith
Two weeks?
Wow, that's impressive.
tim pool
It is impressive.
adam crigler
Well, she took my answer, so I would have said a week.
tim pool
You know why it didn't last that long?
adam crigler
Cause they're city dwellers and they're used to not having to work that hard.
tim pool
Exactly.
They're used to not having to work.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I know some people with farms and I've actually done some farm work and it's like you got to get up early and start working.
You don't get to like chill, drink your coffee and like relax.
tim pool
And then write a blog about Brad Pitt's junk for $50,000 a year.
adam crigler
Scroll through your Instagram feed.
It's like, no, no, no.
You got to get up and do.
Cause like pretty much the rule of thumb on a farm is you finish one chore, two more Prop up.
And it never ends.
tim pool
Never.
This was about survivability farming.
The idea was you got off the grid and you were self-sustaining.
And it's like, now do you understand why you like oil so much?
And why you don't want that to go away.
lydia smith
Specialization.
tim pool
I find it so remarkable that it's mostly people who live in big cities who benefit the most from Fossil fuels and machinery and technology who are the ones complaining about it.
Yeah, that's funny.
You know what they say?
People on the left say that from a point of privilege, equality looks like oppression.
Do you have any idea what would happen if you got your wish with shutting down fossil fuels like Greta wanted to do?
Dude, you would be like... No electricity, so no elevators.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Now you've got to walk up those 17 flights of stairs.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Like we use coal for electricity.
It's like more than half of our electricity.
Well, I think New York has nuclear power.
But they want to shut that down too.
adam crigler
Yeah, they do.
tim pool
Dude, these people would not make it.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
You know...
What I was told about the farm thing with Occupy, they ended up leaving.
Okay.
And I was asking somebody who knew, like they knew the people who were there.
And they were like, dude, do you have any idea how insane it was?
I'm like, oh, I do.
Of course I do.
I'm not an idiot.
And these people didn't realize.
They thought living on a farm was going to be like sitting in a lounge chair, like, you know, chewing on a piece of straw, reading a book and getting away from all the noise and life would be so much easier.
And guess what it was really like.
adam crigler
Yeah, getting your hands dirty.
tim pool
Waking up at 6am, and working until midnight, and then going to bed.
You get to eat a little bit in between.
But when you stop working, you don't have food.
And the best part was, winter wasn't coming.
Oh man.
And then you gotta stock up a bunch of the food, store it for the winter, preserve it properly.
And not only that, you're getting a horrible diet throughout the winter.
You're not getting the vitamins you need, your food is imbalanced.
Yeah, they could not take it.
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's not surprising at all.
tim pool
So what do you think these people would do in a real apocalypse?
adam crigler
They would starve.
tim pool
Would they?
adam crigler
I don't know.
You think they're the ones that are gonna go rioting?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Well, oh yeah, riot.
adam crigler
Yeah, but they're not going to get very far.
tim pool
No, they're not.
adam crigler
I mean, there's plenty of people out there that maybe not are prepper status, but... Are prepared.
Yeah, they're prepared in the sense that, don't come into my house.
Yeah.
They've been like that for a long time.
Me too, out the door.
Once people are starting to riot, they're going to be like, okay, don't come to my house.
Now I will shoot you.
tim pool
There's two similar jokes.
One was a Dilbert comic, Scott Adams, and Dilbert was like, I think he was asking about how the woman is preparing, and she goes, I'm not, I'm just gonna go, you know, I'm preparing, like, what are you doing?
And then she basically said, oh, can you pick up Hot Pockets so that when this all breaks down I can get them?
Like, the joke is, someone posted this in the Super Chat before, they were like, gun owners want to thank all the people who don't own guns for stocking up supplies for us when the apocalypse happens.
lydia smith
That's a good point.
tim pool
I, I, I, here's the thing.
We're seeing what we're seeing right now is not, it's not the apocalypse, the
catastrophe.
That's what they point out in the article.
But I'm, I'm curious.
We've seen a lot of movies and the movies try to pretend they know how people would
respond to an apocalypse.
No, I don't think we really do.
adam crigler
And everyone loves to be that person though.
Oh, I would, I would never do that.
I would've gone left.
I would've stayed put.
Oh, I would've done anything but whatever, which was just pushing the narrative of the movie along.
It's like, okay, well, obviously, they have to tweak a little bit.
tim pool
Here's the truth, man.
When the apocalypse does come, the most brutal are the ones who survive, period.
Period.
Here's a little thought experiment I tell people.
It's weird to me that there's like, A lot of urban young people don't understand how real life works, and I think it's because they've been insulated.
Here's the question I say to people, and I'll ask you guys right now.
You're in the middle of the woods, hundreds of miles from civilization.
You're lost.
You have with you a gun, a rifle, with, you know, limited rounds.
You have a small canteen of water.
You have a little bit of food.
All of a sudden, off in the distance, at the exact same time, you notice another person, and they notice you.
They have the exact same things that you have.
You don't know where your next meal's gonna be, you don't know where you're going, you don't know where civilization is, and you see this person, what do you do?
adam crigler
Hmm.
And the world's over already.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Regardless of that, let's- It doesn't matter.
I'll do the equation.
You're in the middle of nowhere, in the Yukon, lost.
You got teleported there, who knows?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And you've got a rifle.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You've got a little bit of food, a little bit of water, and the clothes on your back.
You don't know where civilization is, It's cold, you're trying to find food, shelter, whatever.
About a hundred yards away, you and another person, you both make eye contact at the exact same time.
What do you do?
adam crigler
I would probably say hello.
tim pool
And then they yell back, Florga blop!
adam crigler
Florga blop.
tim pool
Florga blop!
unidentified
Florga blop!
lydia smith
I don't think you communicate very well.
tim pool
How do you know they would speak English?
adam crigler
Well, I would probably have a smile on my face, and I would wave then, you know, and probably, because we have like a hundred yards away, it's pretty far.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
You know, so it's like, you know, I would probably lift my gun up, you know, in like a non-threatening manner, like holding my hands up with the gun visible, but not aimed at them.
tim pool
As soon as you raise your arm with the gun, they lift their gun up to you, shaking.
What do you do?
adam crigler
Well, I probably duck behind a tree.
tim pool
Then they see you move, so they start shooting.
adam crigler
Good thing I ducked behind a tree.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
So, this thought experiment isn't meant to have a correct response.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It's to point out that no matter what you do, you can't expect how someone else would respond.
True.
And everyone, you know what, like, this is really funny, because one thing I often hear from conservatives is, like, they would have their hand properly on their weapon, they'd hold up their hand, and they would move really slowly, and they would back away and leave.
I hear from moderate people more stuff like what you were saying, like I would try to make contact.
You know what I hear from people on the left?
Oh, I'd go and greet them!
adam crigler
Now they can help me!
No, I wouldn't trust them immediately, though.
tim pool
You don't know!
adam crigler
But see, if I was in an environment like that, you never know if, like...
If they were friendly, then you're two and not one.
So your chances of survival increase.
So that's, that's where my first instinct would be is like, I would rather be two than by myself.
And if they're friendly, you know, how do you approach them?
If they don't speak my language, it's obviously going to be more difficult.
tim pool
You can't assume they do.
adam crigler
Right.
You know, so if I yell hello and they like, all right, you know, Florida blob.
Yeah.
tim pool
So the challenge is, if you see this person, you don't know if they're starving, if they're angry, if they're scared, you have no idea what they're feeling.
They might see you and see what you're carrying and be like, if I take his stuff I'll live.
Why should I bother with this person who might hurt me?
I don't know them.
I don't know what they're saying.
And so I try to explain to people that A lot of people with these utopianist views think this is how the world could work, everyone holding hands and singing and it's like a rainbow.
And it's like, no, the reality is, you take that scenario I gave you and you scale it up to nation states.
We don't know what the other is doing, we don't want to give up our secrets, we don't know what they're planning, we don't know if they're going to attack us, and everyone needs resources.
And so when you look at a lot of how these countries are responding to the crisis right now, We don't know what China's internals are.
They might, you know, for all we know there's like some government official who's like, his buttons are all undone, his tie is, he's drunk and he's just like, this is the end.
We're out of resources, our money is going up, the food supplies have stopped, but don't tell anybody.
And so then you have these people saying things like, we need to be cooperating with China.
They're a global leader supplying us and they're ready to press the button.
That's the problem, that's where you go with conflict and war and stuff.
But also for that scenario too, it's like, man, I think it's a guarantee that if the apocalypse happened, like liberals, liberal-minded people would, and I say this because liberals tend to be very passive, like the actual liberals.
adam crigler
I'll say it, they would die out.
Oh, that's what you were about to say.
tim pool
Yeah, totally wiped out.
The reason is though, when I say liberal, I'm talking about people who are gonna vote for Joe Biden.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're clearly not paying attention.
They don't know or care about what's going on.
adam crigler
And they're just like, I haven't even heard him speak.
lydia smith
Right, exactly.
tim pool
Now the progressive far leftists, many of these people are now actually rather pro 2A.
This has been a big thing.
Because of like with Antifa, there have been a lot of, you know, far left people who are like, no, we demand our rights to own weapons.
And you see, and there are, you know, groups that are considered to be that or aligned, like, you know, Black Panthers, for instance, that showed up in Virginia.
And all of the liberty-minded people agree, like, we should have a right to bear, you know, bear arms and stuff.
But the far leftists, I think, will survive.
The communists, the authoritarians, because they'll take what they want.
They're aggressive.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Conservatives, who are prepared and calm and, like, methodical, who are, like, not all of them, but enough of them, will be prepared and ready.
And then liberals, like your average liberal in this country, are going to be sitting on their hands, confused about what's happening around them.
adam crigler
Not believing it until someone comes and takes their stuff.
tim pool
Yeah.
Or no, no, I'll tell you what, like it's gonna be in Manhattan and there's gonna be like, picture this, a dude with like a beard and like wavy brown hair and thick black frame glasses with a blue button-up shirt tucked into his khaki leather belt, sitting in his Manhattan apartment, watching the TV as they say like the government has collapsed, we don't know what this means.
Then this door gets kicked in and a bunch of dudes come in and they have their guns out and they're like, where's the food, where's the food?
And he's like, in the cabinet.
And he's gonna be like, what?
What's happening?
And they're gonna take his food and they're gonna leave and then he's gonna have no food.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Those are the kind of people it's like, yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
That's the apocalypse.
unidentified
I know.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's a quick apocalypse.
adam crigler
This is what they want.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
But, you know, I'll go back to that last point and we can jump to the Super Chats, but like, I think we all, you know, we look at movies to see how people would react.
But when you look at movies like The Hunger Games or like, you know, I don't know, Dawn of the Dead or something, We don't take into consideration the political alignment or the predictable behaviors of certain areas.
Areas of Utah, for instance, like more Mormon areas, will react very, very differently to New York.
Very differently.
I'd be willing to bet, too, Religious areas will survive very, very well.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Immediately.
Because they have a unifying force.
Right, there's culture.
Whereas people of all different random backgrounds and ideologies will be unified by what?
You're in a city and everyone's running around and you're gonna be like, I gotta get out of here.
But if you're in an area with like, you know, a very religious community, you're gonna be like, let's go see what everyone's doing because you know everybody you could... This is one of the things that's interesting about religion that we've lost as the US has become more secular, is that people used to meet each other at the church and talk about stuff.
Because I did this, you know, when I was growing up.
How many people in New York get together with their local community and talk to each other, meet each other, They don't do it at all.
adam crigler
No, they don't.
tim pool
Never.
adam crigler
No, they don't.
tim pool
Luke, the We Are Change dude, has this video from a long time ago where he went on the train and he was like, all of these people, millions of people every day on the train never talk to each other at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's dead silent.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
These are everyone's on their phone listening to music.
tim pool
So look, I'm not saying like, I'm, I'm personally not, not religious.
I'm not, you know, I don't read the Bible or anything like that, but I think fact-based you have, you have people in New York who have no ties to any community.
They don't know who lives below them.
Like when I lived in Brooklyn, I had no idea who my downstairs neighbor was.
adam crigler
Same here.
tim pool
Heard him playing music!
adam crigler
Almost all of my apartments, I didn't know anybody.
And the problem there is people aren't in places long term either.
They're there for a year, maybe two, but then they find a different apartment with a different friend, or they broke up with their significant other, and they have to find new places, and they're constantly moving, and that's every apartment.
The consistency is not there.
When it hits the fan.
tim pool
What are you gonna do?
adam crigler
Who do you trust?
tim pool
You go downstairs, knock on your neighbor's door, and you're like, we've never met before, and he goes, give me your stuff.
You have no idea.
Or he's like, take my stuff, please don't hurt me.
And you're like, wow, I didn't even ask you for your stuff.
adam crigler
What are you talking about?
lydia smith
I don't want your stuff.
tim pool
Let's band together.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But I mean, you know, even when I was growing up in Chicago, we knew all the neighbors.
Everybody knew each other.
New York?
adam crigler
Yeah, we lost that.
tim pool
So, you know, I was thinking about it and I was reading something a while ago that actually was not, it wasn't making this point, but I realized it.
They were talking about the water cooler, the town hall, churches, and it was talking about social media censorship and the threat we face because of it.
And one of them was that because people used to meet for church and it was like a very, very prominent thing in this country, you know, decades and decades ago.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That conversations about politics were being had as people were gathering and then leaving.
They would also do events, like when I was growing up, the church we had on, I think it was on Sundays, I don't know how often they would do this, but I think Sunday Mass was followed by like a potluck?
What is it called when everyone brings something?
lydia smith
Yeah, a potluck.
tim pool
Everyone brings food.
And so me and my friends wouldn't, you know, we were just little kids, so we'd be like, dude, it's so awesome, you go there and you just like stand there for an hour and then it's all the free food!
We didn't know anything about the religious stuff.
But people would be hanging out, and then people would talk, and they loved that there were kids there, like, eating, and like, of our own volition.
All that's being lost in big cities.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Let's grab this.
There you go.
If the apocalypse happens, there's a lot of reasons to speculate as to why your average liberal is doomed.
Liberals, pay attention!
That's for real, though.
I mean, call it bias or whatever, but Let's grab some Super Chats and then, what should we do?
Should we talk about Atlantis?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We'll talk about Atlantis.
unidentified
Let's do that.
tim pool
Yeah, there was a viral video where people thought they discovered Atlantis and somebody wants to rent out our parade.
So, we'll let them.
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
Okay, here we go.
There's SolarCycles and TGR, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Eric says, noticing similarities between Duncan Lemp and Trevin Cole.
Check out What Happened in Vegas by Ramsey Dennison.
We'll check it out.
I don't know what that symbol is.
They say Lydia can't comment on if she would shoot someone for legal reasons.
lydia smith
I cannot.
tim pool
Nope.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
Oh yeah?
The Grizzly says, if we're going to enter a dystopia, we should enter the Warhammer 40,000.
It's everything that is the complete opposite of Star Trek.
Humans are a religious space empire built on constant war with space knights and aliens.
Is that what it is?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
I've never played Warhammer.
tim pool
Sounds fun.
Chuck Morris says, I'm with Lydia.
Always double tap.
There you go.
Darun says, always shoot to kill.
Many stories of bad guys suing homeowner and homeowner being forced to pay the criminal for life.
Well, in my opinion, that's not the reason to end someone's life.
You know, that they're going to sue you.
The bigger issue is that, you know what really bothers me in movies?
It's like, dude, all the time they'll be like, I have subdued the bad guy.
And then they like run.
What?
You just knocked him down!
And there's a guy who's like he's a slash slasher film He's killing people and then they finally like knock the
guy down, and they're like quick now Let's leave and I'm like what you're not him down
unidentified
He's gonna get back up and he's gonna pick up his knife again
tim pool
Yeah, like you have to defend yourself, and you've subdued him at the very least tie him up dude
Don't even do that.
lydia smith
When somebody's unconscious, it's not like in the movies, you don't wake up 20 minutes early.
tim pool
20 minutes later.
lydia smith
20 minutes later.
You wake up like 3 minutes later.
tim pool
Not even 3 minutes.
lydia smith
It's such a short time.
It's like 30 seconds to 3 minutes.
It's usually, it's not long.
tim pool
Three minutes?
That's like brain damage.
lydia smith
That would be the longer end.
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
People who get knocked out, if you watch MMA, they'll go down and they'll start to get back up right away.
It's a few seconds.
The reason I would say if you're in a self-defense situation, there are certain circumstances where our society finds lethal force justified.
If somebody is shown intent to continue no matter what happens, you gotta stop them.
For not just you, but for other people.
That's what I can't stand.
People just don't have... Oh man.
That's what really bothers me about movies.
I always imagine a movie and I'm like, they could have ended this movie in 10 minutes and I want to see it ended in 10 minutes.
adam crigler
And for the record, I was just making a joke about that.
About what?
Not shooting to kill.
unidentified
Oh.
adam crigler
You're like, Adam, you have to.
lydia smith
I would.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Here's what I want to do.
Can we start a production thing where we make three-minute versions of movies where we solve the movie before anything happens?
lydia smith
We should.
Yes.
Oh, that'd be so much fun.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It's like the murderer is seen and someone goes like, or actually, you know Family Guy made that joke?
Did they?
Yeah, they did a cutaway gag to Home Alone with competent robbers.
lydia smith
Oh, no.
tim pool
And the robbers walk in the front door and the one guy goes, that was strange.
The doorknob was hot.
He's like, really?
He's like, yeah, but I just let go.
lydia smith
Huh.
tim pool
And then Kevin McCallister's at the stairs, he's like, haha, I've caught you!
And then he goes, bang!
And the kid just died.
That's it.
lydia smith
Brutal.
tim pool
Competent robbers.
I mean, don't do that!
adam crigler
It was hot, so I let go.
That's funny.
tim pool
Yeah, it was hot, so I just let go.
Because remember in the movie, he holds it and he's like, ahh!
It's a silly movie.
adam crigler
Well it's so hot that his skin burned and stuck to it.
lydia smith
I thought it was electrocuted and that'll make your hand close.
adam crigler
That was a different part I think.
lydia smith
Maybe it was just hot.
tim pool
It's a fun movie.
Come on, it's fun.
I would be very satisfied to watch movies end in a minute.
Like a one minute short film like here's Avatar ended in one minute.
lydia smith
I would have liked if Avatar had ended in one minute, to be fair.
adam crigler
I love that movie.
What's wrong with you guys?
Avatar?
That was a great movie.
I mean, it was FernGully, sure.
But it was great.
tim pool
Pocahontas, FernGully, and Dances with Wolves all, like, matched together.
Apparently they got like six new scripts of it or something.
adam crigler
Oh, great.
tim pool
Yeah.
The Lopardi says, don't shoot to wound.
If you find yourself in a position that you have to shoot someone, it's a kill or be killed situation.
Stay safe and folks.
Well, I do agree with that.
I do think it's fair to point out.
Typically the rule is never point a gun at something you're not intending to destroy.
lydia smith
Yeah, that was the rule.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know, it's crazy to me that they don't allow civilians to own less lethal weapons.
Like, like bean bags, pepper balls, stuff like that.
adam crigler
Interesting.
lydia smith
Why aren't we allowed to own that stuff?
tim pool
There was a cool thing I saw.
I think it was on Mythbusters, I'm not sure where.
It was an invention this cop had, where you put a cap over the gun, and the first round is less lethal, and then after that, it's lethal.
lydia smith
Pop a cap.
I like that.
tim pool
Is that where that comes from?
adam crigler
Yeah, so it's like... If they're trigger happy, or if they let one out of the chamber, it's like, obviously, they've started something.
tim pool
So the first hit will put you in the hospital and you'll be like vomiting blood.
It's not pretty.
adam crigler
But you're not dead.
tim pool
But you're not dead.
Yeah, but after that the bullets are like oof.
So it's like normal bullets and it like catches something and then hits you with this like red, you know, less lethal round.
Interesting.
But you do not want to get hit with those things.
adam crigler
No, I don't want to get hit at all.
tim pool
Yep.
Shadow Master says, right, it's always the anticipation that's the hardest part or the quote, it's not the fall that kills you but the impact.
Lance says, the TV show Revolution is a much watch about the end of the world.
Muscle says, Tim, when someone intends to do you harm, it's foolish to not end the threat.
Attempting to disarm a monster only puts yourself and anyone you want to protect in undue danger.
Only saying this because I care.
I get it.
I think, you know, it's an interpretation of what the event is, right?
If you don't know why someone is doing something and you're being proactive, then, you know, but right.
If someone is coming in with a weapon and they're screaming and firing guns, like, yeah, you better, you better protect yourself.
adam crigler
Or if they're not saying anything and they have a gun, like some cops showing up in the middle of the night wearing masks.
tim pool
Yep.
Like, what do you do?
adam crigler
How are the, how are cops not getting killed?
tim pool
They are.
adam crigler
It's happened.
That's not surprising, because they're showing up in the middle of the night.
tim pool
And then the homeowner is a cop killer who goes to prison.
adam crigler
So crazy, man.
tim pool
We have a constitution.
I wish it wasn't Swiss cheese right now.
Valleycat says, about the Libertarian t-shirt, the politician you are looking for is Adam Kokesh.
Oh, I remember Adam.
I don't follow him and all that, but he went to D.C.
I don't remember what happened with this, but he brought a gun to D.C., hit a shotgun, and he did a video, and he like... And you're not allowed to do that.
But, like, he was trying to do this gun march in defense of 2A, where, like, they all crossed the bridge from, like, Virginia into D.C.
in, like, protest.
And then it ended up not happening, I guess?
I think he got charged?
I don't know what happened.
Yeah, he's a very libertarian dude.
Reynick says, if you want to see the after effects of an apocalyptic event, watch the film Threads, 1984, made by the BBC.
Truly horrifying.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Student of History says, Noah, radio with solar charger, cost $25 on Amazon, has USB charger so you can charge your phone.
Very cool.
Crash says, Tim, normally US cities only have a three day food supply.
Think on that for a second.
Oh, I know it.
I totally know it.
Dude, I tell people this, like you realize they'll be eating each other in New York.
Most people start fleeing, and then after a certain point, people who stay behind.
You know, if everybody flees New York, then they're gonna have a lot more than three days.
But it depends on how many people flee.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
If there's, like, one person in Manhattan, they can probably eat for the rest of their lives.
lydia smith
Oh, for sure, yeah.
adam crigler
If they can find the food.
tim pool
No, but bodegas and, like, if there's no other people.
lydia smith
Yeah, just gotta go get it.
tim pool
Eventually, I'd imagine animals will find it, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So maybe you'll be, like, fighting animals or something.
Yeah.
Thanks for the super chat, Simon.
Damien says, only seven months till winter starts your, winter, start your garden now.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
LB says, Adam, never say you would shoot to wound.
That would get you locked up even in pro-gun states.
It's always shoot to stop the threat.
You see?
lydia smith
Huh.
adam crigler
All right, well.
lydia smith
I've never heard this.
adam crigler
I was making a joke, but.
unidentified
Just a joke.
tim pool
Yeah, but people don't care, you know.
unidentified
No, it's fine, it's fine.
adam crigler
Too many people are very serious about it.
Yeah, it's true.
I mean, let me just reiterate right now.
If someone was coming at me and my family, I would put them down.
tim pool
Well, you would defend yourself with the necessary force.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
adam crigler
If they weren't going to stop, what choice would I have?
And I would take the choice that I had.
tim pool
And you'd probably still end up in prison because we're in New Jersey.
adam crigler
Well, my family would be safe.
tim pool
That's exactly it.
That's how people feel.
Caleb Foster says, Soy Jesus isn't a soy boy, he's a soy man.
And then he has a flexing emoji.
unidentified
Woo!
Yeah.
tim pool
Ghost Owl says, the pandemic is going to shape our culture in the future, much like how the Cold War shaped the 60s and 70s.
Yeah.
I think Americans are going to stop shaking hands.
adam crigler
I think so too.
unidentified
For real.
tim pool
They're going to start wearing masks.
Yeah.
Juan says, offer food and show your gun.
JustNoTool says, have you seen The Road?
I haven't.
Aaron Larson says, just finished watching your interview on Crowder's live channel.
How are you two places at once?
Just kidding.
Great job, Tim.
Love seeing y'all collab.
adam crigler
I actually have seen The Road.
It's really interesting about... I don't remember who the two main characters, but I think it's like an adult and a kid traveling down the road.
I think it's maybe a father and son.
And it's an interesting take on being able to trust people.
They run into different humans along the way, and it's like there's a constant tension in the air the entire movie because of it.
So it's interesting.
tim pool
I just watched a movie where, yeah, it was a horror film, but I'll spare you the greater details.
It's actually pretty good.
And this guy ends up meeting a stranger.
He's looking for evidence of ghosts.
He meets a random guy, and he's offering a ton of money.
And then the guy's like, we go in this abandoned building, and then he just goes, Look, if you just want to rob me or do some weird stuff, can I just give you the money?
Because I really don't want to deal with the other stuff.
But it turns out the guy was legit.
To an extent.
I don't want to spoil the movie.
But I find that funny.
It's like, look, okay, you know what, man?
Just take the money.
I'm done.
You don't got to rob me.
Just have it.
Let's just cut the BS.
unidentified
That's one way to do it.
tim pool
That's the point, yeah.
You don't know.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
Tim's thought experiment I'd size them up if I could win I'd shoot if I couldn't I'd be all smiles
But you see that's what you don't know the person you're looking at might be the person thinking can I win?
unidentified
Can I get that stuff? Yeah, yeah, you don't know drunk. Oh, we just jumped again. I love it. I love it
Ah, where we at? I Don't know where we're at
tim pool
Oh, there we go.
Drunk Shovel says, Lefties think they're the proletariat.
They're not.
The hipsters will get greased.
Not that I'm advocating it, but it's a thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Nick says, As the old mill saying goes, hurry up and wait.
The majority of the time during these times of chaos, it is full of stagnant time.
Prayers to the family of Boadifuang, Sheriff of Montgomery County.
We live in a condensed... Our history is condensed.
When we read back about things, it's like everything was shortened three years into one paragraph.
Exactly.
Juan Carlos says, Hi everyone, Peruvian Watcher here.
Week 2 out of 3 of quarantine already.
Also, from now on, men will be allowed outside Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and women Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.
unidentified
Is that real?
tim pool
I don't know when the other genders will be allowed outside though.
Julian says, Desperation is a ripe time for a wolf in sheep's clothing to beguile the masses.
It's a seed best sown in the furrows of complacency.
Gerald Patie says Denmark and Sweden are trying herd immunity discuss.
Yeah, UK flipped on that really fast.
They were trying it because the rates were way too high, but I don't know.
Paxton Fairbank says, the future is Mormon.
If the government collapses, Utah and Idaho will be a powerhouse because of shared Mormonism, as well as Idaho farming and Utah mining and production.
That's what I was saying.
I completely agree.
Sam says, Captain Kratzier of the USS Teddy Roosevelt has been relieved of command for the COVID letter being leaked.
What's your opinion on the matter?
Scary stuff.
unidentified
That is scary.
tim pool
You know, I don't- is it his fault the letter got leaked?
That's crazy.
Yeah, I don't know.
What do you do?
I don't know.
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
War is a bruin, man.
Ethan Johansson says, You don't know the person next to you and I, a farmer.
Consider the farm five miles down the road my neighbor. Talked to him every two weeks or so.
Evil Me says, As a truck driver, this is getting rough.
Florida converted way stations into corona checkpoints that look like something in an Outbreak zombie movie.
Also, my old ass has been learning to skate at truck stops.
Almost got a legit ollie.
Nice!
adam crigler
Nice job.
tim pool
QuietGuitaristFan says, as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormon, living in Utah, I can tell you we'd be unified and ready.
We've been told for a century to have a year's supply of food, also geographically secure in Salt Lake City.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Salt Lake City is awesome.
Driving through, dude, mountains all around you.
lydia smith
It's like a bowl.
unidentified
Beautiful.
adam crigler
That's cool.
tim pool
Glorious, man.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Talk about a beautiful place.
Kyle Harman says, Conspiracy theory.
China's numbers are correct.
They have a vaccine.
This is biological warfare.
Nah, they're lying, man.
They're freaking out.
Grizzly Jack says, Tim, do you ever wash your beanie and your clothes?
You seem to wear the same thing every day.
I do wash them.
So the shirt is different.
I have a bunch of, I have a ton of these same, I wear the same clothes.
I actually have two current outfits.
When I skate, I wear brown.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Yeah, I do.
I have different outfits.
This is like your show.
It's like, you know what I mean?
adam crigler
Yeah.
I see him walking in his skate outfit.
I'm like, oh, you're going for a skate?
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
It's like, oh, we're skating.
adam crigler
It's like, oh, that's what it is.
Throw my skate shoes on.
I'm like, all right, time for a session.
tim pool
Adam's like sitting in the kitchen, like sipping coffee.
And he looks up and I'm wearing brown pants.
And he's like, well, I guess we're skating.
There you go.
adam crigler
And that's how I know.
Skate outfit.
tim pool
Well, it's because this is the stuff I wear for the show.
I don't want to get it covered in sweat and drenched and ripped up.
adam crigler
The other stuff is just... And I'm still wearing my sweat-drenched skate clothes that I wore earlier.
There you go.
tim pool
Shane says, Randall Carlson has some great content on Atlantis.
Ooh, check it out.
Vanessa Stoller says, to spoil your next movie, if the character doesn't have an iPhone, they're the bad guy.
lydia smith
I heard about that.
Apple wouldn't let them give bad guys iPhones.
tim pool
Really?
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Interesting.
lydia smith
Weird.
tim pool
J.Vell says, in the ashes of civilization there will be two factions, the Mormons in
the west and the Amish in the east.
lydia smith
Yes, I was thinking about the Amish.
tim pool
Jack Halsey says, check out the anime Dr. Stone.
Follows a modern scientist stuck in the Stone Age after the end of humanity.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It's pretty cool.
It's a weirdly educational show.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It's basically like everyone turns to stone for some reason.
And then this really, really smart guy wakes up in the future where humanity is just in Stone Age.
And he's trying to build cell phones.
And so it's like he has to go through all the basics first.
OK, first we need to smelt metal.
Then we need to generate electricity.
Here's how we build a vacuum tube.
It's actually like It's kind of like magic school books, almost.
adam crigler
It's pretty sweet.
One thing about the Mormons and the Amish, I feel like the Mormons would be better set up because they're more technological and can probably defend themselves against roving bands of crazies, where the Amish are I don't know if they even, do they use guns?
I don't think so.
Are they gun carriers?
I don't really know.
I thought it was their way to like keep true to the old ways, you know, like, you know, no electric anything, but I don't know if they use guns or not.
tim pool
It's not necessarily true that they don't use technology.
I don't know what the rules are, but I do know that like in Chicago farmers markets, they were Amish farmers.
That would come in to sell stuff, and they were like normal people with trucks.
I don't know what the rules are, but someone there was explaining it to me.
But I did go somewhere in Maryland that had an Amish market.
And it's like, there was a lot of regular technology there, but a lot of people dressed in very Amish clothes.
adam crigler
We're not very far from Amish country.
lydia smith
Apparently they do own them for like pest control.
They do not want to use them against other people.
That's like the whole point.
tim pool
Interesting.
I'm gonna speed up Super Chats because we gotta get this Atlanta segment, but Buck says, if you're interested about the effects of urban life on group behavioral psychology, Tim, do a little research into John B. Calhoun's Rat City and Mouse Utopia experiments from the 50s and 60s.
We'll check it out.
Simona says, huge gap in the U.S.
education is the study of the Soviet Union and Russian history.
Wouldn't have so many crazed lefties have a soft spot for the Soviet culture because my fam's from there, but Americans misunderstand.
Wolfsbane says, you should watch Jeremiah Johnson for a legit movie on survival.
Viper says, you're told to use the back of your hand when testing for the heat on door handles because your hand clenches up in reaction to heat.
Also from yesterday's stream, Thames is pronounced, oh there it is, Thames is pronounced Thames.
There you go.
Leor says, one, as bad as 9-11 was, it was just a few hours on a Tuesday morning.
I can't imagine the implications of this on our future.
Two, I'm a firearm manufacturer and business is great, but supply line is shot.
lydia smith
Oh, dude.
tim pool
Yikes.
adam crigler
Yeah, that makes sense.
tim pool
Drunk Shovel says... Is that Len?
I don't know.
Paxton Fairbank says... There you go.
Well, now on to our... As we get away from dystopian.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
This is interesting.
says the Mormons fought a war against the US before the Civil War. Eat your heart out, Texas.
There you go. Well, now on to our, as we get away from dystopian.
Yes, this is interesting. Like I actually, I, I listen, we formulate these things very well.
We started with, here's something legitimately happening, right?
That's scary.
The next segment was, here's, you know, it's not the apocalypse we expected, but what's apocalypse like?
Now we have, what happens after the apocalypse and history has wiped you out?
The story of Atlantis.
So there's this thing, it's called like the Raichat Structure, I guess.
And there are people who, there's a viral YouTube video claiming they found Atlantis.
And obviously the first thing I pull up is the skeptics, no, Atlantis has not been discovered in North Africa.
So check out this structure.
I wonder if they show this on the Wikipedia page.
adam crigler
It's cool looking.
tim pool
This is where it is.
And you can see this image here.
A topographical reconstruction scaled six to one on the vertical axis from satellite photos show false coloring.
Whatever the point is.
So it's got a Wikipedia page.
Look at that.
Isn't that crazy?
It's like a weird circular structure.
adam crigler
So that's not actually what color it is.
tim pool
This is a satellite picture.
adam crigler
It says false color.
Does that mean it's not an added color to it?
tim pool
Well, they have the other photo right here, right?
It's like brown.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
That looks more legit.
tim pool
This YouTube video, I gotta admit, was really fascinating.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
But of course, like I always mention, they could easily frame stuff to, like, make you think things.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So what the argument is, is that it, like, the water level used to be higher, and that this circular structure where you can see water pouring in describes basically what Atlantis is.
I wonder if there's an image of Atlantis here.
Oh, they don't have it.
Oh, that's kind of a bummer.
There's a drawing of Atlantis as it was described by... Who described it?
Was it Plato?
I don't know. But it's a lost civilization of Atlantis. It was described by, you know,
a bunch of different people, I guess. And it's really interesting to see, you know,
the Raishat structure is what they what they consider. Let me pull up Atlantis right here,
because the location hypotheses, we'll start with this. And then we'll talk about why they think
they didn't find it. So they say since Donnelly's day, there have been dozens of locations proposed
for Atlantis, to the point where the name has become a generic concept, divorced from the
specifics of Plato's account. I was Plato. Yeah.
This is reflected in the fact that many proposed sites are not within the Atlantic at all.
Few today are scholarly or archaeological hypotheses.
While others have been made by psychic, Edgar Cayce, or other pseudoscientific means, the Atlantis researchers Jacques Collina-Girard and Georgios Diaz-Montexano, for instance, each claim the other's hypothesis is pseudoscience, Many of the proposed sites share some of the characteristics of the Atlantis story.
Water, catastrophic end, relevant time period, but none has been demonstrated to be a true historical Atlantis.
So I'm sorry I'm raining on your parade before we even get started, but the general idea is there was once a great civilization.
It was completely wiped out.
I'm going to read you this story about the video.
The first thing I want to say though, to those of you who want to live in a post-apocalyptic society, guess what?
You are.
They don't realize it.
There have been great civilizations that have risen and fallen, and we are living in the aftermath of them.
We've just continually gone up.
So even if things get really bad now and everything collapses in a hundred years, people are not going to realize it.
They're not going to think twice.
Or maybe more than a hundred.
adam crigler
Yeah, we're, we're actually in the great year.
Like there's a, there's like a wave of, of like, we're like right at the bottom, the very dark time.
Well, I don't know if it's certain, you know, I'm not saying I believe it, but that's what they say.
It's like, you know, the great year comes in waves and at like every 13,000 years, I guess it's like a golden age and then a dark age.
And supposedly it ends, the calendar year ends at the very bottom of the dark age.
tim pool
So you think we're starting a dark age or we're in the dark age?
adam crigler
Well, supposedly we would be in the dark age right now at the very bottom point.
tim pool
Really?
adam crigler
Where it hits zero in 2012.
Oh, okay.
So now we're going to see an upswing over the next 13,000 years.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
adam crigler
To the next golden age peak.
tim pool
I don't know if that makes sense to me.
I mean, we're living pretty good.
adam crigler
True.
Yeah.
I mean, for what we believe we are living good.
So you're saying, like, the next 13,000... It's like, we could be living much better, I think.
lydia smith
Frame of reference, yeah.
adam crigler
It's like, yeah, but everyone hates each other.
That's true.
I mean, we've got a great, comfortable bubble that we're all comfortable in, but still, everyone seems to hate something, you know?
Yeah.
Hate somebody else.
We're not unified.
tim pool
I don't think we're looking at... Humans.
13,000 years.
I think right now, depending on what your politics are, we could be looking at there's a resurgence of traditionalism.
That's where there's going to be.
We're starting to see feminists freak out.
We're seeing vanity politics kind of get washed away.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And the manufacturing is coming back, border security, nationalism.
Yeah, it's like we're going back.
So a lot of people, you know, more traditionalists are probably happy about all these changes.
Other people on the left feel like we're going to apocalypse.
So it's really just your politics for the most part.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I think we're heading towards some kind of hard reset on the country, and I think it's going to get bad.
I don't know what the time period is.
So basically, I gave you the gist of it.
This is the interesting claim, but I'm immediately going into the debunk, which I kind of feel bad about, and I think we should have pulled up something better.
But here's what they basically say about what Atlantis may have been.
Some of the specific claims.
The primary piece of evidence for this viral video is that the Raishat structure is a series of concentric rings that precisely matches Plato's description of Atlantis.
The only real match, however, is the simple fact that both are concentric rings, which is not unlikely at all.
This is a great example of interpreting a general similarity following basic geometry as if it were a specific match.
Concentric rings are not uncommon in nature.
He further has to use some creative imagination to argue that the Raishet structure, if it were fed by rivers and therefore filled with water, would have two rings of land and three of water.
But that is not obvious at all.
The rings are not discrete, not complete in places, and it's unclear how water would fill the structure.
You could count four rings of water if you looked at the whole structure.
This is also an example of ignoring details that don't fit.
Plato also described a canal that ran through all the walls to the outer structure.
Connecting the rings, no such canal is evident.
So that's basically a general debunk of the right-hit structure.
I don't know if we actually have... You know, I kind of feel bad.
I don't think we have enough to actually get into... We probably should have pulled up... I had a better article, and I felt bad pulling up something that was just too extraordinary.
adam crigler
No, that's fine.
Do you ever hear about the underwater city that's like outside Japan?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No, that's it?
adam crigler
There's like straight up like a city.
Well, I haven't seen it myself.
I haven't like scuba dived down in the water south of Japan, but supposedly there's this city under there.
Have you heard of it?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's called Yonaguni Island.
adam crigler
Yeah, and they said it's like the, you know, the Atlantis of the East.
tim pool
There's a bunch of cities.
Isn't Alexandria underwater?
adam crigler
I guess so.
tim pool
Not necessarily the entire city, but there's a lot of places that were like in Egypt.
So what is water rising?
Are all these cities like wiped out?
lydia smith
Maybe where they were built?
adam crigler
Well, I mean, if you think about it, what was the last ice age?
10,000 years ago?
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
If there was so much ice on the planet, like the ice is all melting so the waters are rising, but if there was so much ice 10,000 years ago, wouldn't all the water be frozen so that the water would be lower?
And then lower altitudes would be hotter in some places so that they would be able to grow?
tim pool
It depends on if the ice is on a landmass or not.
adam crigler
Do you ever see the movie Stargate?
tim pool
Yes, a long time ago.
adam crigler
I loved Stargate.
It's really interesting because it's basically an alien that comes to Earth and uses the pyramids as a charging station.
There's planets all over with these Stargates that connect them all.
Just because it took over the body of a boy.
But it was cool because it built all the ancient stuff and used us as slaves to basically mine materials that it needed.
And Stargate Atlantis, it's kind of, they find a ring.
I mean, it was a TV show I actually haven't seen in a while.
It doesn't have anything to do with the movie per se, but Atlantis was actually just a place
that we warped to, and it's not actually a place on Earth.
And I always thought that was kind of cool, an interesting premise.
tim pool
They basically say that most people believe Atlantis is just a myth, a story, we believe
it was real.
Or it could, you know, what's interesting to me is how we have all this fictional lore of goblins and, you know, witches, and it's like, all that stuff really just comes from back when humans didn't have mass communication and rapid communication.
Yeah.
And you, you know, you're just like a regular guy living a regular life and you're walking
and all of a sudden you find a, you know, a very twisted, deformed human.
Yeah.
And then you go and describe it and then boom, now there's stories of the crooked witch with the broke,
you know, the, you know, the hooked nose or like, you know, and it's just descriptions or like,
we talked about before about how, you know, vampires was, what was it like rabies or something?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It all just turned something else.
For all we know, Atlantis was like this little hovel.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like a really crappy little thing.
And then it's just a game of telephone.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Someone described it was like, it's a really cool place.
It's like this little village and there was like a ring of water around it.
And someone's like, I heard there was this town with a ring of water around it.
And the next guy is like, did you hear about this city that has this big ring of water?
And it's like this big tall walls.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then everyone keeps imagining it being bigger and bigger.
adam crigler
And over the thousands of years of playing telephone along the human history line.
Yeah, it's interesting.
lydia smith
So here's something that's not imaginary.
Cleopatra's palace in Alexandria actually is underwater and oh, it is amazing looking.
They found more than 140 artifacts they uncovered.
I guess they were cast into the sea by an earthquake.
So this wasn't really like melting ice or anything.
They want the ruins to be opened up to divers and tourists.
Oh, I want to go see that.
adam crigler
I'm getting certified too, so I definitely want to go check that out.
tim pool
I read a story about a Civil War painting that I don't know if it's true or not.
I was reading this book a long time ago and they said that somebody drew a painting that
showed regulars, the British regulars, firing on a bunch of Minutemen farmers running away.
unidentified
Bye.
tim pool
The next time the painting was recommissioned, the person showed a few of the Minutemen fighting back.
They were like, well, some of them were fighting back.
The next painting showed very few people running away.
The next commission, you know, of the battle, showed a standoff between, you know, minutemen and regulars firing equally.
And then eventually, after recommissioning of the battle, it was the redcoats fleeing and it was the minutemen standing their ground.
adam crigler
History is left to the rich people to, or not necessarily the rich people, but the people who are dictating what is taught.
tim pool
And there are people in culture right now who want to alter history, who want to change history by claiming, you know, it's like Christopher Columbus.
adam crigler
I was just thinking it.
tim pool
What we knew of him, and now what they're saying about him, it's all changed.
It's just what people choose.
I do think it's funny too, like, what I will give in terms of credit to the social justice activists is that we have a very Eurocentric view of the world, like the discovery of America.
Yeah.
I've never understood this.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like we didn't discover it.
There were already people here.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like those people discovered it.
What's what, when did they first get here?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Or even for that matter, like Leif Erickson, like Christopher
Columbus didn't discover America.
adam crigler
He just, he found modernized island in the Bahamas.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's like, and then, you know.
adam crigler
Plymouth Rock?
Like, no?
tim pool
No, that wasn't him.
That was the Pilgrims.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, but, like, Leif Erikson was going, like, north and around, so he ended up in, like, Nova Scotia or something.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, but we do, and I think it's fair to point out that, you know, history is very culture-specific.
It was interesting to me, too, when I was listening, I think I mentioned this before, listening to the radio, and they talked about the beer law of, like, the German beer, the Belgian beer law of, like, 1260 or something.
Yeah.
And I'm like, wow.
lydia smith
Why?
tim pool
No, no, it's just these laws that have persisted for a millennia or whatever.
So here's what ended up happening, so I'll eat this one.
I had an article about Atlantis and explaining this, and I was concerned that it was conflating too much and trying to make it sound like it was real when it wasn't, and I forgot to pull it.
I was going to pull it both, and I only have the one, and I'm like, oh, this is missing too much information, so yeah.
lydia smith
Still fun.
tim pool
We'll do a better job.
Yeah, my concern is that if we get too fantastical with, like, something that's obvious.
So there's this viral video.
It's really cool, by the way, but you should watch it.
Then I'm, you know, I'm just trying to be more skeptical.
But hey, it is what it is.
Whatever.
I'm tired.
We'll eat it.
We'll grab some Super Chats.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
I love those Super Chats.
tim pool
Alright, where are we at?
People talking about Stargate.
adam crigler
Yes.
unidentified
Here we go.
adam crigler
I really liked the shows.
They were really good.
tim pool
Keyboard, thanks for the super chat.
There you go.
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together except for Cali and New York. Xavier says Trump mentioned the dangers
of the coronavirus during the State of the Union speech.
Nancy ripped the speech.
Sellouts are coordinating with Chinese government. Man.
Real Everyday says this live stream is sponsored by Plague Inc.
Evolve, now available for PC on Steam.
Exterminate with Tim.
No, no it's not.
Isabelle Lopez says, love all your channels and now I got my hubby addicted to them too.
Keep up the great work.
adam crigler
Nice, nice, thanks.
tim pool
Student of History says, if you like the Atlantis, then you should look up Doggerland.
adam crigler
I don't know what it is, but alright.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
That is interesting.
tim pool
That's cool.
Victor says you should do a deep dive on the structures on Mars and the fact that NASA detected uranium-235
Which can only be created through a nuclear detonation That is interesting
Spider Chan says Stargate SG-1 the fourth horseman unique comparison to Corona
interesting Paxton Fairbanks says the LDS Church is one of the two institutions you need to be familiar with in order
to get into the Centennial and oh the Central Intelligence Agency
YouTube won't let me use the acronym.
Oh, interesting.
The future is Mormon.
Robert says, I've only caught two podcasts live and in both you reference theories that Graham Hancock has hypothesized.
Sad that you called him a pseudoscientist last time I did.
I don't know who he is.
lydia smith
Graham Hancock?
No, we haven't.
I think tonight is the first time we ever mentioned him.
tim pool
No, I just read what the Wikipedia said.
Right?
I don't even know who that guy is.
unidentified
Graham Hancock?
lydia smith
No.
Yeah, no.
unidentified
I'm not familiar with his name.
Nah, I missed it.
lydia smith
I will have to look him up.
tim pool
Yeah.
No, I don't know.
lydia smith
I take responsibility.
tim pool
Ampcoat says, it is known that after the Cataclysm, the Atlanteans fled to the Thurian continent, settled in the Grimlands of Cimmeria, and from there Number was born Conan.
Ah, interesting.
Stively says, look up the Raishet structure, or Eye of Africa.
Yeah, that's what we had pulled up.
Eggman says, if you ever get to finishing that beanie-shaped zeppelin, you should totally name it the Pool Float.
I will!
unidentified
Alright, well.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
If you haven't already, hit the like button and subscribe.
Thank you to everybody for the Super Chats.
I haven't gotten a like.
adam crigler
Boom!
I just liked it.
lydia smith
There we go.
I like it too.
tim pool
We do the show every Monday through Friday at 8pm.
Is it Thursday?
adam crigler
It's Thursday.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
I know, I was just thinking that.
Holy cow.
tim pool
That's why I didn't realize I was going to be on Crowder, because I forgot it was Thursday.
Time flies, man.
adam crigler
People were saying you were great on Crowder.
tim pool
Was I?
Crowder's hilarious.
adam crigler
Really good at being at two places at once.
tim pool
Crowder likes breaking the rules.
Not like, I don't want to say, like, no, he likes pushing the envelope.
lydia smith
He pushes it.
tim pool
He's a comedian.
adam crigler
Yeah, he's good.
I've started following him recently.
lydia smith
He is a funny dude.
adam crigler
And we get to... I like his content.
tim pool
But, you know, I will add this too for all of you that saw it or missed it.
The one last thing I'll say before we sign off is that when it comes to politics right now, it's not even about policy.
You know, like, conservatives aren't arguing about, like, the left and right arguments are typically about, like, which person do you like?
Is the president a good president or a bad president?
It's like, if you say, I don't know, then you must be a conservative.
If you say, I hate him, then you must be a liberal.
But those aren't policy positions.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
lydia smith
It's just feelings.
tim pool
That was like a part of the conversation we were having that just reminded me of.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Anyway, we're going to wrap it up.
adam crigler
Feel free to follow us.
There's my tag.
There's Tim.
There's his.
That's, uh...
tim pool
At Timcast.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
At Adam Krigler.
Yes.
C-R-I-G-L-E-R.
adam crigler
Yeah, you got it.
And?
lydia smith
I'm at Sour Patch Lids.
adam crigler
Sour Patch Lids.
With a Y. L-Y-D-S.
unidentified
L-Y-D-S.
Yep.
tim pool
There you go.
Alright, well we'll see you all tomorrow at 8pm.
Thanks for hanging out everybody.
unidentified
Bye!
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