Olympian Kyle Dake discusses sports mandates at the Olympic Games and in other collegiate and professional sports.
Dake won a bronze medal fo US Wrestling team in Tokyo in 2021 and is a four time NCAA collegiate champion in four different weight classes for Cornell University.
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Hey everybody, I'm really excited about my guest today.
Kyle Dake is a father, a husband, and an Olympian.
He was a bronze medalist at the Olympics in Tokyo and a three-time world champion for the USA. He won for Cornell University, his alma mater.
He won four NCAA championships in four different weight classes.
And I think you're the first person in history to do that.
Arguably, a lot of my friends, when they heard that you were coming out there, said he is the best wrestler in history.
And nobody else has come close.
Has anybody even won?
Nobody's won four before, correct?
So there's three other people that have won four.
Pat Smith, Kale Sanderson, and Logan Stieber.
But they all won at one or two weight classes, and then I won at four.
But there's never been anybody to win at three other weight classes either.
So when I did it, I was the first one to win at three different weight classes as well.
What does it take to change weight classes?
So when I was a freshman in college, I was still a boy.
I was just a young kid.
I was a late bloomer.
And I ended up cutting a lot of weight my freshman year.
And I had made the commitment that I was going to wrestle 141 pounds.
And our team was set.
We had a really, really strong team.
We were ranked second in the country all year.
And so I made that decision to stay there.
And about halfway through the season, I was like, there's no way I'm wrestling at 141 again next year.
I'm definitely bumping up.
And I did.
So the next year, I went 149.
I had a very similar season, very successful.
Our team was very good.
We were ranked number one in the country the whole year.
And about halfway through, I was like, man, I had grown about an inch from the time I stepped on campus to then.
And my shoulders started to get a little bit wider, I was packing on more muscle.
And I was just like, man, this is tough.
So I made the decision halfway through my sophomore year.
I was like, I'm definitely going up next year.
I couldn't go up at the time because we had a really good wrestler at the weight class above me.
So that following year, I went up to 157 pounds.
And that was probably my natural weight.
That's probably where I should have stayed in college.
I ended up winning again.
That was my first undefeated season.
And then my senior year, I coached up.
Well, our coach brought me in and he said, hey, listen, our best chance at winning a national title is if you go 165.
Now, the thing is, I had the guy who won the equivalent to the Heisman.
So it's called the Hodge Trophy.
It's the most dominant wrestler every year.
The guy who won it the year before was at that weight class.
And now he's one of my good friends.
He's actually an Olympic champion.
He's one of the co-founders for Athletes for Medical Freedom.
His name is David Taylor.
I made the decision to bump up a weight class again and wrestle him.
I had to wrestle him three times during that year.
And fortunately, the first time was in overtime.
The second time I beat him was a last-second rideout.
And then the third time was in the NCAA finals.
They had flipped everything around because it was the most highly anticipated match probably in college history.
And he only had one loss going into that year.
He was...
I'm destroying everybody.
And I decided I would go up and try to cement my legacy.
And I was able to get it done, which is pretty cool.
But we do talk about it pretty often, David and I. Not too often.
When it gets brought up, I always try to shut it down just because he ended up becoming an Olympic champion and I ended up becoming...
It was cool.
It was a lot of fun.
The people I know who are in wrestling, I have never seen people get so ecstatic.
I told them that you were going to be a guest on the show.
He is right now in a battle with the U.S. Olympic Committee, the NCAA, and the MLB, just to name a few, because his organization, Athletes for Medical Freedom, is struggling with To make sure that athletes take care of their own bodies and make personal choices about their own health.
I'm going to read the audience a mission statement for athletes for medical freedom.
We want to advocate to preserve individual rights in medical treatment across all sports and organizations.
We aim to collaborate with players, player unions, and other organizations to create a plan of action that is inclusive to all people, regardless of accident status.
So welcome to the podcast, Kyle, and thank you so much for your courage.
Tell me, you know, how did you get into this very, very dangerous form of advocacy thing?
Yeah, very dangerous indeed.
So I went to the Olympic Games and we had all sorts of different testing protocols, things they wanted us to do.
They took us five hours away from Tokyo so that we could train in a small village in the side of a mountain so we wouldn't be exposed to anybody.
So we didn't get to go to the Olympic Village.
We didn't get to go to opening ceremonies.
We didn't get to go to any other events.
So we were pretty much locked down While we were at the games.
And, you know, we were just happy to be there.
They had, there had been talk of potentially canceling the games in early 2020.
And the fact that they just moved them made everything a bit easier to swallow, but still, you know, wasn't the same experience we were hoping for.
And once we finally got to the games, everything went off without a hitch.
All of our Olympians were able to wrestle.
We had one of the best Olympic performances of all time for our country.
All five of the men's weights that went earned medals.
We had two Olympic champions.
And then we had, on the women's side, we had five more medals as well, four medals.
It was one of the best performances that we've ever had.
And, you know, we weren't forced to do anything.
I mean, some of the people, there was a lot of people advocating for us to get it.
In our view, the handful of us that are part of the organization, we're like, it's just too soon.
You know, we don't know what we're getting ourselves into.
There's no long-term safety studies.
They unmask the safety studies.
The way they looked at relative risk versus absolute risk was absurd.
So we, you know, we wanted to pause on that and just see how it'd go.
Some other people were just like, We're told, hey, if you get this vaccine, you won't have to worry about getting COVID. You won't get it.
It's safe.
It's effective.
It's got, you know, this, that, and the other thing to make sure that you'll be able to compete.
So some of our athletes took it and, you know, they ended up performing decently well.
And then others decided not to get it.
And we had some pushback, but not too much.
And then afterwards, there was a seven-week gap between the Olympic Games and the World Championships.
And right before we left for the World Championships, we got an email from the USOPC. And they said, there will be a vaccine mandate from now on for all sports that are sponsored by USOPC. That's the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee.
And if you want to use any of our services, if you want to use any of our facilities, you will have to be vaccinated or get an exemption.
And if you want to compete in any of our events, so the Olympic team trials or the Olympic Games, you must be vaccinated.
So as soon as that hit, I saw red, my ears were smoking.
I was really upset about it because I just came off of I'm an Olympic bronze medalist.
I felt like I had something to prove.
It wasn't my best performance.
And I wanted another shot at the Olympic Games.
And this came through and I was like, man, I don't know if I'm going to be able to compete.
You know, I really want to.
I'm in the peak of my career and I feel like I can move forward.
And I wanted to compete through 2028 in Los Angeles.
There was a few others.
They're like, well, let's just wait and see.
We have the World Championships in less than a week, so let's just calm down and just focus on that.
And I couldn't calm down.
I ended up writing a pretty lengthy email to the USOPC board and their doctors, and I got a quick response from I'm basically just citing the CDC guidelines and that was it.
And they told us, well, if you want to join this meeting, we'll answer some of your questions.
It was like really early in the morning or really late at night for me while I was over in Oslo, Norway.
And we had a couple of other members join for us and record it and figure out, you know, what are the questions that were asked?
Who was asking questions?
There was a lot of people who raised concerns and they were just like, oh yeah, we hear you, but this is our decision ultimately.
So, as soon as that happened, we called our Athlete Advisory Council, who is, there are a bunch of athletes who, from each sport, that attend these meetings.
And we said, well, what's going on?
How did this come about?
And they said, well, it just came from Dr.
John Finoff.
He's the one that passed down the mandate, and we had no voice, we had no vote, we had nothing.
So that's when we decided we need to do something.
We need to stand up and advocate for ourselves.
And now we're here today.
We've been cruising along, gathering members every step of the way from a variety of different sports within the USOPC sports and then also outside.
People from different, athletes from different countries.
The amount of support from parents and NCAA athletes has been through the roof.
And just trying to keep up with it all has been a task in its own.
Where are you now?
Are they still requiring you that you get the vaccine?
Yeah, so the worst part about the vaccine is the fact that they have the exemptions in there.
So they just hide behind the exemptions.
And we've had three athletes apply for exemptions and get the exemptions from the USOPC. However, if they want to go compete at the Olympic Games in Beijing, the Winter Olympic Games, they would have to be vaccinated.
The Beijing Olympic Committee will not accept any religious exemptions.
And then the medical exemptions that you get from the USOPC has to be reviewed by their Beijing Olympic Committee board.
So they're just going to decide if you get to compete or not.
And it's pretty much out of your hands.
So they still require it.
They still are on the CDC guidelines from October.
So recently there was a camp in Colorado Springs and at the camp, someone tested positive for COVID.
And then another, so they tested the whole camp and one other person tested positive, but had no symptoms.
And they wanted to make that person stay at camp, locked down in their own room for 14 days, even though they only live 30 minutes away, go quarantine at their own house.
And their excuse was, well, we're just doing this for the safety of the athletes.
And locking somebody up for 14 days when they can just go home doesn't really make that much sense to me.
But that was just the way they viewed it.
So this was just after they announced the five day quarantine for asymptomatic people.
And They haven't changed any of their language.
They haven't changed any of their policies or procedures as this has evolved.
And they won't recognize natural immunity or anything like that.
So we are pretty much stuck in the same place that we are now.
And that's all we keep hearing.
So we have some meetings lined up with USA Wrestling and a couple of members of the USOPC board here in February.
And we're just doing our best to advocate for ourselves and advocate for our fellow athletes.
What are the other sports that are represented in your group?
We have Paralympic hockey, we have track and field, men's women's wrestling, Greco wrestling, skeleton, and then a variety of athletes from different countries, tennis, baseball, swimming.
We have another USOPC swimmer that just joined us.
So there's a handful of us, but we've been...
We've been shouting it from the rooftops.
It's just hard to get through all the censorship.
I went from getting 50,000 views on all my stories to 5,000 within a day.
I'm a perfect player with that.
Yeah, I bet you are.
I bet you are.
Did you have any contact with Chuck?
So we reached out to him, but we haven't heard anything back.
You know, I know what it's like to get thousands and thousands of requests per day.
I'm sure you know as well.
To just like try to go through those and see them all is pretty difficult.
And a lot of times I'll look at them and then just forget to respond because life hits you and you just happen to, you know, you don't get back to it.
But we haven't had any contact with him.
We reached out to him.
We reached out to Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie.
But You know, it's, they're busy, you know, and it's not always easy to do that.
And there's political issues with them too, where they, you know, they're struggling for survival and may not want to become the face of a movement.
How about the, are you keeping track of the collapses on the field at the milecard?
And this huge list of athletes now that we have tracked You know, something that's pretty much unprecedented and totally uncovered on the news.
Are you tracking that at all?
So we lean on you guys a lot for that, just to track all those athletes and go through them.
We have people on our network who are going through all those names and trying to Just see if any of them, if they haven't died, if they want to speak out.
And we've reached out to a handful of them and still haven't heard.
Well, we heard back from two, but again, these people are, they're scared.
It's hard to come out and say, hey, I got this.
I had an effect.
And most of them get gaslit and told, you know, oh, now you're just an ASAP axer and you're just trying to cause more people harm.
You're killing grandma.
And it's like, no, I had an injury.
And we see that, but they just, there's some hesitancy there to come out and speak about it.
Have any of the Olympians in Tokyo or elsewhere, you know, post-Tokyo or in preparation for Beijing, have any of them had adverse events from the vaccines?
Yes.
I've heard of five adverse events, but nothing serious.
Two of them went to the hospital that I know of, but they ended up coming out fine and they aren't suffering any long-term events of it now.
Yeah, a lot of them who got it ended up having pretty brutal days, three or four days out, where they couldn't practice, they couldn't do anything, and they Some of them are still feeling the effects mentally more than anything else, and now they don't want to get the booster.
And the goalposts kind of keep changing with the USOPC. They told us no booster was required.
Now they're telling us while they're following CDC guidelines, they might need a booster.
And it's constant blame pushing that we're coming up against most of the time.
And are you doing any litigation, Kyle?
So I'm actually speaking with our lawyers today.
We were talking about arbitration before we went into litigation.
This could be a little more cost-effective for us.
And there's eight people right now who would want to go through with that, with the USOPC, and hopefully we can make a good case for it.
There's the Ted Stevens Act.
Which essentially allows everybody to compete on a fair level playing field.
So you pretty much have to let everybody compete regardless of what they believe in, where they're at.
And we're trying to see if that applies to medical status or not.
I should have a better answer coming up soon, but it's not always easy to scrape together the money needed to fight these things.
We're doing our best to do a little fundraising and lean on some people who have those means, but You know, I've seen how much you have to go through and follow litigation and arbitration and things like that.
So how can people join if there's other athletes?
How can they get in touch with you and support you?
So we have our website, athletesformedicalfreedom, all spelled out,.org.
And then we also have our Instagram page where you can reach out to us, athletes, the number four, medfreedom.
And then we also have a Twitter page, ATH, the number four, medfreedom.
So there's a few ways to get in contact.
You can reach out to me specifically.
My Instagram is KyleDay444 and same across Twitter.
But we've had, I would say we'd have more young athletes, high school and college athletes reach out because they have almost no voice.
And they don't have any sponsors that they have to answer to.
They don't have any college programs that they have to answer to.
And they're not worried about losing potential wages.
And everyone that I've talked to that's a professional is like, well, you know, I'm a little worried about losing money.
And I said, well, you know, that's fine, but what kind of world do you want to live in?
And we're going to do our best to fight this and hopefully come out of this on the right side of history so that we don't have to worry about your money in the future.
And we're going to try to replace that the best we can, aligning with certain corporations who value freedom and who value that, have the same value system to believing in bodily autonomy and your right to choose what you and your doctor decide is best for your health.
And you guys are people who spend a lot of time thinking about your health, right?
And making your own investments and understanding your body.
Talk about that a little.
Yeah, I mean, pretty much every decision I make is based on health.
So in the past, when I was in college, I didn't take care of my body hardly at all.
I was young.
I was 18 years old.
I thought I was invincible.
You know, I just get by on my athleticism and calories in or calories out.
So I was eating junk food all day.
I don't think I drank more than eight ounces of water that weren't flavored with something.
And I, you know, I did value my sleep, which was, which was pretty big, but my recovery, I didn't value that much.
And I suffered from it.
You know, I thought it was, it was normal to be injured throughout a season, knee injuries, ankle injuries, hamstring injuries, pec injuries.
All sorts of different things.
And I didn't have a serious one.
So I thought, you know, okay, I'm getting by.
And it wasn't until after I graduated that I really suffered some pretty bad injuries.
I had two foot surgeries, I had a heart surgery, a shoulder surgery.
I had a knee surgery.
So I was dealing with a lot after college.
And I found out I had an autoimmune condition.
I had a bunch of random things that I was allergic to, like haddock and olive oil.
And I was like, where did this come from?
And it was just my body was so inflamed.
And I was able to reverse a lot of my allergies.
And I got my autoimmune condition under control.
And I was able, well, luckily the doctors were able to help me with my heart surgery and get that under control.
So, you know, I'm in a much better place, but I had to Start deciding to prioritize my health.
I started eating a much cleaner diet, started drinking water with electrolytes and trace minerals.
I started getting outside in the sun, started putting my feet on the ground.
I regularly see a chiropractor.
The way I train is in line with physics, like what are the foundational movements of humans standing, walking, running, and throwing.
My guys over at Functional Patterns are the ones that have really helped me with that.
So just everything in my entire life now is centered around health so that I can compete at the highest level I can possibly compete at and not have any excuses.
So I control as many variables as I can.
And while doing so, I decide what goes into my body from shampoo and conditioner to food, what I eat, and everything in between.
Wow.
Did you see that movie?
What was that movie of Tom Brady?
Game changer.
I haven't yet.
Tom is one of my favorite athletes to watch.
I've loved him since New England, even though I never wanted to see him win.
I always rooted for him.
I'm a Bills fan and a Browns fan, unfortunately.
Bills are doing a lot better.
Browns aren't doing too hot.
He really valued health, and it showed.
He's been able to compete for a really long time.
And, you know, I definitely am going to look into those, but he does a very, I've seen a lot of his protocols, and he is also very meticulous about everything that goes in and out of his body as well.
Yeah, and he attributes, really, evenism.
Athletes, you know, the assumption is that you need a lot of animal protein.
But he considers that the reduction in inflammation from eating mainly, you know, from a kind of vegan diet is what he attributes to his longevity.
So I put a whole roster of athletes in that movie who are like world-class athletes.
Very, very surprising for people like me who believe that.
I've always believed that to be a good athlete, you need to eat a lot of animal protein.
So I played around with veganism diet for a little bit, and I actually felt my performance go down a lot.
And I think it had to do with the fact that I had already cleaned up my diet so much.
I was only eating wild game, grass-fed, grass-finished protein.
I was eating nose to tail.
And I pretty much stayed away from all processed foods, dyes, artificial flavorings, all of those things.
So when I tested it out, I just felt low on energy.
And I think there's a few mechanisms behind it.
It's a little above my pay grade, but I tend to always advocate for regenerative agriculture, regenerative practices, just because it has such a huge impact on the environment.
It has a huge impact on the soil.
It has a huge impact on carbon recapture.
It has a huge impact on health and wellness.
So that's kind of the route I've been taking.
And it's definitely helped my performance, I think.
Off the subject, let me ask you something about the future of Olympic wrestling.
Because I know a couple of years ago, people were talking about actually dropping wrestling from the Olympics, which to me seemed so bizarre because that was the original Olympics sport.
And it seemed almost synonymous with the Olympics.
Yeah, it was a severe blindside.
There was a lot of corruption before that all happened.
And in the governing organization at the time, it was called FILA. And there was a lot of dirty politics that was going on.
And they didn't really adapt the sport.
They thought that the world should adapt to them.
Instead of adapting to the changing world.
And in 2013, after 2012, we got a shock.
Like, hey, you're on the chopping block.
And we saw a ton of people rally to try to save Olympic wrestling.
And ultimately, they did, which was great.
And, you know, I think we're...
I think we're in the clear now.
It was either 2020 or 2024 where they were going to revisit where we were at, but we've made a lot of good changes to the sport, made a lot more fan-friendly, and we've taken a lot of steps to improve our product, which is great,
and it's been Some of the best wrestling that I can recall, I watch a ton of video from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s, and just watch the state of wrestling and how it's evolved and changed and the rule sets that have changed.
And they made a lot of improvements to the sport, but then also we've had a lot of people Just get behind it because it was the same reaction you had.
Well, it's one of the original sports.
Why would they take it out?
It's like taking out track and field.
Well, our problem was we weren't getting enough viewership and we made a strong, concerted effort to drive viewership and increase those numbers so that we could keep our spot in the Olympic Games.
What percentage of the athletes, those high-level athletes, will end up in the MMA? I'd love to hear your thoughts about the MMA. MMA is awesome.
And there was the era before my era.
So I really came onto the scene at the Olympic level in 2012.
So from 2008 to 2012, we actually lost a ton of athletes to MMA, UFC, Bellator, and one-fight championships.
And our wrestling suffered from it because all of our talent was leaving.
And we had a coach who ended up employing this new system, and he called it the Regional Training Centers.
And so essentially what happened is all the NCAA schools were allowed to host and have Senior level athletes.
So athletes who are actively training for the Olympic games, train at their facilities, and they would get all these protections and whatever.
So since that was employed in 2013, I believe, all of our wrestling professionals All of our wrestlers started to stay in the sport.
So all of our highest level athletes were able to make a living because these regional training centers would essentially pay athletes to stick around, train for the Olympic Games, but also help out their college guys.
So it's kind of a win-win situation for...
A lot of these programs.
And we have seen a lot of our top-level athletes stay in the sport for much longer.
So we have guys who won Olympic gold medals in 2012 and won medals in 2012 in that quad who are still competing today and want to continue to compete through 2024.
And so I've been on national team for nine years now, which is not very typical.
If you went back, you know, 15 years, he would see most of those guys transition to MMA. And, you know, Daniel Cormier, Henry Cejudo, both superstars, Ben Askren, who have gone on to be champion MMA fighters, and they are doing pretty well for themselves.
They probably could have wrestled for many more years, at least one more quad, I know in Daniel's case.
But the money talks and a lot of those guys weren't getting paid.
They're having to work second jobs to support their family.
And luckily for me, I have a lot of support with my RTC and also sponsors so that I'm able to continue to fight for this dream.
Have you ever had anybody hit you right in the face?
It's hard to say again.
Yes, pretty much every Tuesday that happens.
Not on purpose, you know, it just happens in practice.
I got clubbed on the side of the head pretty bad, broken my nose a handful of times.
I got a dead tooth here from a knee to the face.
Yeah, so I've been, I've taken a few shots involuntarily, which I don't really want to, I know, I'm not very interested in getting punched in the face on a daily basis, but sometimes it happens.
Is wrestling the best preparation for MMA? For what I've seen?
For what I've seen?
Yeah, so it's kind of gone through this metamorphosis where Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, like if you had no training, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu would kind of win out on a lot of those.
In the early days of MMA, that was the dominant fighting style.
And wrestling started to take over because they just started losing weight.
Learning jujitsu and basic holds and chokes and just the way we've trained from our whole lives and just the nature of wrestling is all about control and controlling someone else's body gives you a pretty big upper hand when it comes to an MMA fight.
And now most of the best MMA fighters have a background in wrestling or it's their second martial art that they've tried to perfect.
So you see wrestling pretty much dominate every aspect of the sport.
And it's just because if you get someone to the ground and they can't get off their back, well, they're in for a world of hurt at that point.
Who's your favorite fighter?
Oh, geez.
Who's my favorite fighter?
So I grew up with John Jones.
He was about an hour away from me when we were kids.
And he was a handful.
He's five years older than me, but we were on the same club team.
So I would go to club practice and he would be there and his older brother, Art, who ended up playing in the NFL. Was also there.
And they were, you know, great guys.
And they went on to do pretty incredible things.
I think all the Jones brothers, two of them played in the NFL. And then John became one of the greatest fighters of all time.
So having known them from when we were kids was pretty cool.
But Daniel Cormier is another one of my favorite fighters to watch.
You know, he was just...
Just his story is pretty incredible.
What he had to endure as a child, as a father.
You know, he's...
He's got some serious grit.
And what he does now, he coaches high school wrestling out in California.
And he just volunteers his time.
And he's a pretty awesome dude.
So I love to watch him fight too.
What motivates you?
I had like a little bit of a Napoleon complex.
When I was young, I was a late bloomer.
I was really small.
And I never had guys my size that I could practice with.
So I was always wrestling bigger guys and just always trying to fight, always trying to fight, fight, fight, fight.
And I knew that I couldn't just rely on my talent alone.
I had to put in a lot of extra work because I needed to protect myself when I was out there.
So when I was in seventh and eighth grade, I was only weighing 80 to 90 pounds and And I was wrestling guys who were cutting weight from like 110 down to my weight class 105.
So I was really small.
So I had to learn how to fight every single day and get better every day because I wasn't better than the guy.
If I was equal to them, they would just beat me because they were bigger than me.
And they had the strength advantage, everything.
So I made the decision that I was going to try to improve every single day.
So it was my goal to be better, 1% better than I was yesterday.
And I took that to heart and that was just kind of been who I am probably since I was 10 years old.
You know, it's 21 years later.
I'm still trying to be better than I was yesterday and better than I was last year and constantly improving, trying to leave no stone left unturned and Just be the best version of myself.
You know, every time I wake up, every time I step on the mat, every time I pick up my little girl, I try to do a little bit better every single time.
So that's really the motivation factor for me is I want to be better than I was yesterday.
Kyle, thank you for joining me.
Awesome.
Thanks for having me.
Let us know if there's anything we could ever do for you.
Okay.
I will.
I appreciate it, for sure.
Yeah, just your support, everything that you've already been doing has been a ton of help for us.
And if you have any recommendations on things we should do, things we should look at, things we should try to do.
I mean, we went down and I was able to watch you speak at the March chance mandate that we'd see.
So we had a good time down there.
But yeah, if you can think of anything, or David, if you think of anything that we should do, please let me know as well.
I mean, you should be in touch with John Stockton.
Have you talked to him at all?
Yep.
Kyle, thank you so much for joining us today.
Tell us again how people can support you.
Yeah, just go on our website, athletesformedicalfreedom.org.
We have our donation page there.
We're actively fighting lockdowns.
We're headed into, you know, we have to hire lawyers and get people to...
Help us with all of that because I have no knowledge of how to do any of that stuff.
But also follow us on social media.
Athletes, the number four, MedFreedom on Instagram.
And then ATHath, number four, MedFreedom on Twitter.
And we also have a Telegram channel, but we haven't really pushed that as much.
But that's Athletes for Medical Freedom.
I'll spell that out.
So yeah.
Yeah, thank you for having me on.
We really appreciate it.
You know, appreciate the support.
Appreciate all the fight that you've been putting towards this.
And, you know, we really respect everything that you do and everything you do for mankind.
