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Jan. 2, 2022 - RFK Jr. The Defender
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Australian Authoritarianism with Monica Smit

Monica Smit discusses camps and authoritarianism with RFK Jr in this episode.

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It's my pleasure to have Monica Smith as our guest today.
Monica Smith has been on the front line of Australia's fight for freedom since August 2020.
Most recently, she is internationally recognized as Australia's first political prisoner.
She spent 22 days in solitary confinement, refusing to sign draconian bail conditions.
The conditions were appealed and revoked, and she is now free to continue her work.
So just tell us what happened.
Well, there was a new bill put through Parliament just two weeks ago called the Permanent Pandemic Legislation.
So Daniel Andrews, our Premier, can now call a pandemic for any reason without any advice or anything like that.
And if someone is seen to be an aggressive Why were you imprisoned in the first place?
So I was charged with incitement, which is meant for things like murder or things like that.
So if I encourage someone to murder someone, I'm obviously also culpable for that crime.
But in this case, they've found a loophole in the criminal system here.
If I'm inciting someone to break a COVID direction, so if I tell someone not to wear a mask, for example, they now call that incitement, which is a criminal charge, even though the offence of not wearing a mask is actually only a finable offence.
It's not a jailable offence.
So it's a loophole in the system.
I shouldn't have been in that position.
But I was charged with two counts of incitement and the bail conditions were the most.
And my lawyer said they have seen people who have run through houses with machetes get less bail conditions than me.
They wanted to completely shut down my organization, which is one of the most influential freedom movements in Australia.
And they tried to shut down my political party at the time and all my staff would have lost their job and everyone would have lost a lot of hope.
So I couldn't sign those bail conditions.
So I went to prison and we had to appeal them.
It took 22 days.
And because I didn't want to take a PCR test, they kept me in solitary confinement.
So I had no sunshine, no outside time at all.
For 22 days, but I got out and the bad bail conditions were taken away so I can still do my work, which is great.
Let me ask you something on another subject, which is what is the status of those camps in Australia and are they actually being populated now and who are they being designed for?
Well, there is already one in full operation in the Northern Territories and through the QR code check-in system, which is on the phones, people check in everywhere they go.
They're very compliant, unfortunately.
unfortunately, if you get caught to have been a close contact with someone who tested positive for COVID, then you are actually forced to go to this facility.
And if you don't go, you'll get a $5,000 fine.
You'll get approached by police and you'll get intimidated until you go.
So most people go because, of course, the $5,000 fine is the average wage in Australia is about $40,000 a year.
So $5,000 is a lot of money.
So most people go.
And that's in the Northern Territories.
Now, there is one being built in Queensland and in Victoria.
Now, I will say the one in Victoria is going to be staffed by prison guards.
So that's very worrying.
And, you know, two years ago, I would have felt paranoid to think that these concentration camps are actually designed for the political dissidents and the unvaccinated or the unclean, as they would say, But I'm sorry, there is no other way to look at this.
They are for the unvaccinated and for those who don't want to comply and for maybe close contacts as well.
But being staffed by prison guards and what's happening in Northern Territories.
Now, if you leave your balcony, you get a $5,000 fine.
If you break the rules, you get a $5,000 fine.
People have tried to escape.
Why would you escape if it was voluntary and if it was a nice environment?
So the public sentiment towards the unvaccinated is already getting very bad.
So I don't think it's a very big stretch for the media to announce one day, oh, we just had our first unvaccinated person go into this facility because they don't want to stay home.
And that's a danger to society.
And I think a lot of some people would be like, yeah, sure, that makes sense.
Lock them up because they're unclean and we don't want them in our society.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The people who are being shipped to those camps now, they're people who are exposed to COVID, whether they were vaccinated or unvaccinated, versus just unvaccinated people who are being sent there.
Everyone.
Yeah.
And you don't even have to...
They acknowledge that the vaccine does not prevent you from getting COVID or prevent you from transmitting COVID. That's kind of an acknowledgement of that scientific fact, isn't it?
Oh, it's funny because they acknowledge it in every way except for saying it straight up.
I mean, the biggest cases we have now, the super spreader events, they've all had to show their green pass or their vaccination passport to get into this venue.
So it's absolutely has made no difference to case transmission at all in Australia.
In fact, our cases have never been so high.
So you already have a vaccine passport in Australia?
Oh, yes.
Absolutely, yes.
Especially in Victoria.
Does it just have vaccine information?
Because what people are worried about it will be used to include other information about your social credit or just things that the government really has no business knowing.
It really isn't a fast stretch of the imagination if the infrastructure is there.
So far, the Australian government has taken every bit of power they could with every legislation during this pandemic.
So it's definitely not paranoia to imagine that this will be used for other things.
And they are putting through legislation about a digital passport as well.
well.
So all your information will be on this app.
So it's, you know, they've conditioned us to check in everywhere to listen to all the advice.
So if they were to say, oh, I'm going to just put your social credit, your credit system, like your financial credit score onto this app as well, people would be, some people would be quite accepting and think that that was quite convenient.
What happened to us straight down?
Australia used to be the land of the free and the independent, and particularly Victoria.
Why is Victoria at the center?
Is this partially because of the Murdoch control of the papers in the country, or what is it that made the country fall so dramatically from democracy into totalitarian rule?
Well, I think it's a range of things, but one of the biggest things that I think has contributed to this is we are very easygoing people.
If anyone listening has met Australians, we're very easygoing.
And we've had a great life here.
We haven't had to fight for anything.
There hasn't really been a civil war since, you know, we came here as prisoners and things like that.
There hasn't been big uprisings.
There hasn't really been an obviously corrupt government before.
Everything just seemed great.
And so no one got involved in politics.
No one cared about politics.
I didn't.
I just voted with who my dad voted with.
That's all going to change now in Australia.
But it's our character is one thing.
Secondly, we have a small population and we're very spread apart.
So it's a little bit harder for us to organise physical gatherings because of that.
And also we've been trained through school to be unpatriotic.
We're not like Americans.
We don't hold our constitutional rights in our back pocket like it's a Bible or something like that.
We're just not like that.
So we've been trained to look after our front yard.
You know, if my front lawn is mowed, then I don't care about anyone else's.
So until the pain has hit a really high level, that's when people will do something.
And I will say that Australia has stood up in a very amazing way.
In Victoria, three weeks ago, there was 700,000 people on the streets.
The population of Victoria is only 6 million.
So that's over 10% of the population was on the streets.
So there's obviously double that or more at home that agree with the protesters.
So I will say that because we've experienced the most pain, especially in Victoria, I mean, they closed playgrounds in Victoria at one point.
So the point I'm trying to make is there is hope when humans are pushed up against the wall, they will retaliate.
But the other thing is, is our premier, specifically Daniel Andrews, he's really in bed with the Chinese communist government.
He's had over 40 visits to China since his premiership and he's been in power for about seven years.
So we believe that there is a lot of influence from the Communist Party and he has tried to do some really shady deals with them and actually it's been stopped by the federal government, which is good.
But Daniel Andrews is the worst premier in Australia, although he's followed very closely behind by other premiers.
Those are the reasons I can think of.
And when you have 750,000 people on the street, you know, we see over here, it's never on the mainstream media, what's happening in Australia and in our country.
We see it on a kind of underground media.
Even YouTube purges it off.
We can get a whole, you know, we see the videos, we see home videos that people are sending to the Defender or to other outlets, and it's really, it looks like a civil war.
It really looks like a civil war, these battle with police.
Does it feel like a civil war when you're there?
And are all the police kind of monolithic on, you know, against the people on this?
And finally, is there, is it being shown in Australia on the media?
So when it's lockdown, police believe that human rights are suspended.
So all bets are off if we're in a proper lockdown.
And that's where you saw the scenes of the Civil War lookalikes.
And yes, it was like being in a horror movie.
The adrenaline's quite interesting, though.
You know, there's people running away and trying to hide and people giving other people legs up to jump over fences.
You know, it's like a real life game show or something like that.
But then when you get home, it's very distressing to imagine what you just went through with your own police.
Now, I'm sure a lot of the police don't like doing what they're doing, but the problem is, is they're willing to do it.
And that is really concerning to us.
And I think someone's going to get really hurt if this continues, if we have another lockdown.
There definitely would be a select few police who, if they were given the order to go to someone's home and take them to a quarantine camp, i.e.
concentration camp, they would do that.
We've seen that.
They used rubber bullets on people.
They're the size, they're quite big, these rubber bullets.
And actually 8% of the time they use them, They can actually fatally hurt.
They can kill someone.
So they're using this indiscriminately on the crowd.
It can hit children, etc.
And there are some court cases going on at the moment that actually RDA are supporting against the Victorian police for this sort of behaviour.
When you're one-on-one with the police, I think they actually don't like it, but their actions don't mirror that.
And so I don't really have that much sympathy for it.
Secondly, the mainstream media, it's interesting.
I think the Australian mainstream media, they haven't quite figured out that they should just completely ignore everything to do with the freedom movement.
That's actually their best strategy.
They actually do report on them.
They do lie about the numbers, but once in a while, they actually tell the truth.
Once in a while, they don't call it an anti-vax protest and they call it something else, which it actually is, which is pro-freedom and pro-choice.
Because of the pandemic legislation that recently in Victoria, that was really what caused a lot of ruckus here.
So sometimes they reported and told the truth because everyone hated that bill.
Even the Bar Association, which is our lawyer association, the Ombudsman, which is an independent oversight organization, that no one liked this bill.
So it actually brought a lot of people together and they did report on it.
So it's really hit and miss.
But overall, of course, the mainstream media, they are not reporting the adverse reactions, which are really building up a lot.
And it's very distressing to see this stuff.
So we're trying to get through to the journalists.
But of course, just like everywhere else, they are turning a blind eye to the truth to keep their jobs.
Oh, if somebody has an adverse reaction, they are not going to be allowed on TV to talk about it.
I mean, even the doctors make them feel like they have a mental disorder.
You know, I have some adverse reaction stories coming out soon.
And one person said, when I arrived in the emergency ward, the first question they asked was, how long ago was your vaccine?
They know this stuff is happening, but no one's saying anything.
And I'm sure it's happening there as well.
But the paramedics, the emergency services, the doctors, the nurses, they all know.
I just, I can't believe they can stay quiet.
It must be really etching in their conscience.
Tell us about your organization.
How big is it?
Are the freedom movements growing more robust there?
Are you organized?
Are you capable of mounting long-term robust resistance?
Absolutely.
I mean, Craig Kelly, he's a member of parliament.
He's probably one of the most influential people as well.
And of course, he started working with a party called United Australia Party.
And this is really a beacon of hope, I believe, for the federal election coming early next year.
But with Reignite Democracy Australia as a robust lobby group, we can definitely make a difference.
We have 100,000 email subscribers and we have a small population in Australia.
So that's really quite something.
We used to have a big following on Facebook, but of course that's all gone.
But we have three times the amount of website views than any of the other major political parties and things like that.
And we have great interaction.
We have 12 staff and a phone line and we have lawyers, in-house lawyers that help people as well.
So we have also community groups.
We have over 110 community groups around Australia and they work autonomously within their communities and they all have around 50 or 60 members in them and they organise Christmas parties and empower each other and do letterbox drops and things like that.
So yeah, we are very influential in that way.
And political parties want to work with us because we have such a voice and RDA has kind of created its platform based on action.
So the viewers are really ready to take action and that is the difference between someone who's just going to read something and someone who's going to act.
But what we're hoping to do obviously is affect the next federal election and that's really our focus at the moment.
So in our country, a charitable organization cannot lobby or do electioneering, but you can in Australia.
Well, the difference is, is I'm a proprietary limited.
So we didn't go for charity status because of that, because of that.
So, we have to pay tax and GST. And even though we run as a not-for-profit, as in, we don't take any profits from the business.
So, in theory, we're a not-for-profit, but on paper, we are a proprietary limited.
So, our donations are called financial support, not donations.
And that's how we run things.
We have merchandise.
We have a social media platform.
We have a business directory that people pay for as well.
So we have a directory of businesses that won't discriminate.
So there's a few revenue streams there to keep us alive, but it's tough going as well to pay all the bills, but we do all right.
But, you know, I will just say that And you must be feeling this as well.
Your organization is very active at heart too.
And I feel like we are powerful in a way, but we're putting out all these spot fires without really getting to the source of the fire.
So I'm trying to think of some bigger ideas and maybe we can work together offline, you know, worldwide ideas that can actually affect change straight away.
Or maybe that's not possible.
I'm not sure, but I would love to discuss it.
We would like to talk to you about it, and we will talk offline.
Tell me about what's happening in the Aboriginal communities.
Well, it's funny, they always refer to the Aboriginal communities in the media as vulnerable communities, like they have to get vaccinated as soon as possible because they're so vulnerable.
I have no idea what that means.
I would say they are vulnerable because they're isolated and they get paid by the government to basically stay where they are.
They get coerced easily with money.
So they have offered $500 for them to get the shots.
They have intimidated them that they cannot leave the community.
They cannot go play basketball or soccer at the local sporting facility.
If they're not vaccinated for 12 year olds, you know, they're intimidating 12 year olds and no one really knows what goes on in those communities unless someone is there with a camera so they can get away with a lot.
And yes, they are door knocking, giving vaccinations in Aboriginal communities.
I think it's called Canavan in Western Australia.
The only misinformation that did go viral overseas is that it wasn't the army taking people to the quarantine facilities.
That's the only misinformation, but everything else people have seen is absolutely true.
It's the local police who bring it there.
I think it's health officials.
So we have this branch of people that are called authorized health officers.
They have all this authority.
They can go into your house without a search warrant.
They took private patient information from a doctor's surgery in Victoria.
And they're employed by the government to basically go around making sure that people are following the COVID directions.
And they have an immense amount of power.
It's very strange.
And how does it work if they are taking these exposed people to the camps?
How come they don't have to stay with them because presumably they get exposed during the drive up there?
Well, I do know that they had what they referred to as a COVID cab, so a COVID taxi.
It was just an airport shuttle bus, so I'm not sure what the process is there.
But of course, the people in the quarantine facility are covered from head to toe, plastic and things like that.
So I guess that's how they justify it.
I mean, you would think they might say, well, I'm vaccinated, so I can be around these people.
But the whole quarantine facility is full of vaccinated people, so I'm not sure.
Leave us with your hopeful message.
Do you think Australia is going to be able to dig its way out to survive this coup d'etat against democracy?
Absolutely.
I mean, we have to.
It's only a matter of time.
I just don't know how long it's going to be.
Dictatorships always fail.
Good always prevails and the truth always comes out.
It just might be a long road.
You know, right?
I hope so.
I hope so.
You know, the freedom movement, it grows every day here in Australia.
It never goes backwards because the more annoying the government gets, the more people wake up.
So it's never going backwards.
And I think we're determined.
If I didn't think that there was a way out of this, why even bother getting up in the morning?
You know, because the life that they're trying to plan for us in Australia is not a life I'm willing to live.
So there's no option but to do whatever I can.
And if it doesn't work, well...
That's God's will, whatever.
But we have to do our best.
And that's the message I always tell my people.
And I've been saying lately that, you know, every day we wake up is one day closer to us getting our liberties back because it's just a matter of time, in my opinion.
And also, it feels good to fight for something you believe in.
And, you know, we can rest when we get our freedoms back.
And we will.
We will.
Thank you so much.
Before we go, tell us how people in the United States around the world can support you.
Well, my website is reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au and we have a subscription there.
We send out daily emails with latest news.
So you can just flick through them and see if there's something that's interesting to you.
So it'd be great if you subscribed.
And, you know, we have, obviously you can support us as well, but there's so many great organisations that need your support.
So don't worry, we're all this far away.
I'd love you to just follow me and keep up to date.
Monica Spett, thank you very much.
Keep fighting and we will be fighting with you.
Thank you very much, Monica Spett.
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