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Aug. 6, 2021 - RFK Jr. The Defender

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Fired For Saving Lives with Dr Brad Meyer

RFK Jr continues his podcast series interviewing heroic doctors on the frontlines, with an interview with Dr. Bradley Meyer.

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	Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.
	Today we have a special guest, Dr.
	Bradley R. Meyer, who hails from Northwest Iowa.
	He is a board-certified family physician, 13 years in family practice, six years as a U.S. Air Force physician.
	He's committed to treating patients and not serving the pharmaceutical industry.
	He was fired from his job recently for treating a COVID patient with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
	Instead of following the standing orders to ventilate.
	And I asked Dr.
	Meyer to join me as part of a series that we're doing with physicians all over the country who are examples, who are really casualties of this new devolution and In medical practice where the traditional role between doctors and patients, a very, very personal relationship and that obligation to treat the patient as the doctor sees fit, is now being subverted and replaced.
	The role of doctors now has become as agents of state policy, which is eclipsing their obligation, not just to public health, but more importantly to the health of the particular patient that they're treating.
	Dr.
	Meyer, thank you so much for joining me and welcome to the podcast.
	My pleasure.
	Happy to be with you.
	Tell us what happened to you.
	Well, I've always been a physician that's believed in the art of medicine.
	Of course, I follow the evidence, but I found early on over the course of this last year, especially with the COVID pandemic, that the physicians are being squeezed into a box and the art of medicine was fast fading.
	Typically, with prescriptions that we will write, 20% of them can be off-label and there's no questions asked.
	Off-label means it's a medication that is not typically used to treat a migraine, for instance, but could be used to treat something else.
	Well, when I tried to use something that was not, quote-unquote, government or CDC approved, I got in trouble, quote-unquote, with the healthcare organization that I worked for.
	They wanted me to strictly follow the CDC guidelines and the guidelines that were coming down to Avera Health Corporation.
	And so Avera was your employer?
	Right.
	And is that an HMO or is it a hospital system in northwest Iowa?
	It's a hospital system based out of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and it has a sprinkling of clinics in Northwest Iowa, Southwest Minnesota.
	Majority of the hospitals and the practices are in South Dakota.
	Tell us specifically what happened.
	Were you ordered to ventilate a patient?
	Well, the understanding was initially out of the chute that the best thing to do for these patients when they Well, we didn't want them to get to the point where they needed ventilation in the ICU. So we have other options, and we knew that early on.
	And, you know, one of those things being...
	Hyperbaric therapy, which is increased atmospheric pressure, that was shown in an NYU study very early on, but no pharmaceutical companies put pressure on the magazines and these journals not to pick this astounding information up.
	Literally, people were not going to the ICU. We're good to go.
	The best thing was not necessarily to be the intubation, but hyperbaric treatment.
	And so it's increased atmospheric pressure, which increases oxygen concentration to your entire body.
	And from there, we found a lot of other therapeutic options available that were quite effective.
	To start with the hydroxychloroquine, I followed the Zelenko protocol.
	I believe he's out of New York.
	I found some tremendous success early on with the treatment of that.
	My patients, it was like turning a switch.
	Flu-like symptoms felt like they'd been run over by a Mack truck.
	And then all of a sudden, day two, early on, if I use the hydroxychloroquine, their symptoms largely were going away with, of course, some zinc vitamin D therapy as well.
	I really didn't get too much pushback from the hospital and the organization for doing that.
	Of course, I was the only physician in my about 11 physician group that was using the hydroxychloroquine.
	Because I wanted to do everything I could to give my patients a chance not to be hospitalized where they're typically in a pretty bad state once it comes to going into the hospital.
	So what happened?
	What was the incident that got you in trouble?
	Right.
	So as the fall went on, I started to use ivermectin.
	I saw the studies with the frontline doctors and I spoke directly with Dr.
	Pierre Corey.
	And he told me, hey, Brad, Dr.
	Meyer, keep prescribing that ivermectin.
	It's going to be borne out to be true, and you're going to continue to save patients.
	Again, I was the only physician in the group that was doing that, and I was seeing tremendous effectiveness as well.
	Trying to switch on two days after being on the ivermectin, the symptoms would largely resolve outpatient preventing patients.
	In many cases, inpatient treatment.
	And so I was told by the Averis system, they came into clinic in Northwest Iowa in Okoboji for an unannounced meeting and told me that I must stop prescribing the ivermectin.
	As well, I was telling my patients that the ivermectin was an effective prevention or prophylaxis for COVID-19 in place of the jab or the COVID-19 vaccine, which is experimental.
	I wanted to give my patients an option and a choice, so they told me, you can't prescribe the ivermectin and you can't talk to the patients about the vaccine because you might, quote unquote, confuse the community.
	So from there, they said, are we going to be a fit?
	You know, your practice style.
	And for a time, a bit of time, I stopped prescribing, but the patients in the community were asking for the ivermectin.
	And knowing what I knew from the studies around the world and frontline doctors, I knew that I took an oath not to the corporation.
	I took an oath to take care of my patients and have their best interest at mind.
	And I couldn't sleep at night if I didn't continue to or restart the ivermectin, which I did.
	And one of my patients in the town of Okoboji, she's a realtor that's been there a long time, three to four weeks prior to her coming into the hospital with COVID this last spring, I told her that you're going to need ivermectin, but I'm not sure you're going to be able to get it.
	I was not her primary doctor.
	My colleague was, but serendipitously, she came into the hospital with COVID, and I happened to be taking care of her the day that my colleague was off.
	And so, went upstairs into the hospital, and we talked about ivermectin, how she needed it, and how I had written for it in the hospital several times before, and the chief medical officer of the hospital literally canceled out my orders.
	And said, no, we're not going to fulfill that order in the hospital.
	Those patients ended up dying.
	So I knew if I wrote the order again for the ivermectin, it was not going to go through.
	And so I wanted to find a window.
	One of the journey that has been COVID and God has been connecting a lot of people in my life.
	It's been a beautiful thing out of a really taxing year.
	one of my patients introduced me to Dr. Ted Fogarty out of North Dakota.
	And he was the one that started to introduce me to some of the hyperbaric options for treatment, as well as antivirals, budathione, N-acetylcysteine.
	And I called up Dr. Fogarty or Ted and I'm like, hey, where's the window here?
	Because our gal is not doing well.
	Her oxygen requirements are going up.
	She's going to have to be probably in the ICU within a day here.
	And he's like, IV anacetylcysteine.
	We use it all the time for...
	Contrast toxicity to protect the kidneys or for Tylenol overdoses.
	So again, an off-label use that there had been studies that proved that N-acetylcysteine was effective for the treatment of COVID as well.
	So I talked to my patient.
	We said, hey, this is an off-label use.
	Shall we go forward?
	And we prayed that it made it through.
	And the order didn't get canceled out.
	That's never happened to me before this year where an order's canceled out, but went through and lo and behold her symptoms got better.
	She didn't go to the ICU and she was discharged 48 hours after I started that treatment.
	But the following day After she was sent home on a Sunday, I came into work and I was met with the administrative folks from Avera Health out of Sioux Falls and they informed me that I was fired without, quote unquote, without cause.
	Of course, I knew the reason.
	They had told me before, stop prescribing the ivermectin and stop talking about the COVID-19 injection with your patients and whether they should get it or not.
	So...
	What about the other doctors in your group?
	Were you, according to them, these really good outcomes you were getting?
	And what was their response to it?
	Well, silence.
	When I talked to Dr.
	Pierre Corey, he forwarded me all of the meta-analysis from these multitude of studies that he was about ready to send off to the NIH. In January, he's like, all right, this is the evidence I have, and it's overwhelming.
	And I think this was in December of 2020, and I was so excited.
	I sent out an email to the CEO of the hospital, the chief medical officer in the hospital and all of my colleagues to say, we need to start treating patients early in the course of the infection.
	So they, number one, they don't get hospitalized is the goal.
	And two, if they are, let's use it in the hospital, the ivermectin, because the, again, the evidence is overwhelming.
	The safety data is extremely, it's extremely safe.
	I didn't get a response on the email, on the text that I sent with Dr. Corey's information.
	I talked to them in person at one of our staff meetings, again, approached the subject to say, hey, let's think about treating early on with symptoms, especially for the high risk folks that have a lot of medical pathology going on and maybe over 70 plus.
	We want to do all we can to prevent them from getting into a pickle here.
	And again, it was not met with open arms.
	They had already decided that they were getting their COVID-19 marching orders and directives from Avera, which was getting it from the CDC. And so there was not going to be any movement.
	There was not going to be much differentiation for anybody in the management of our patients' care.
	In your opinion, could there have been people's lives would have been saved if you had done the early treatment protocols?
	Without a doubt.
	My colleagues, none of them We did the early treatment protocols and statistically there's not much doubt that the people that we had die wouldn't have or a good majority of them.
	I believe that Dr.
	McCullough out of Texas talked about 85% of Hospitalizations could have been prevented with early treatment.
	And he is a well thought of cardiologist that trained Texas A&M and Baylor.
	Yeah.
	And was there any doctors among your dozen colleagues who thought that maybe this was something worth trying?
	A couple of them told me, Brad, I agree with you.
	This is a bunch of malarkey.
	Bunch of baloney.
	The masking, there's no evidence to support it.
	Your early treatment ideas, there's no reason why we shouldn't consider that.
	But they also told me that if they went against the grain, that there was nowhere else for them to go.
	So if they crossed the corporation or the employer, they were worried that they were going to get fired and then they're not going to be able to practice medicine anywhere else.
	What is the company's motivation?
	Because You would think that the company would be trying to save lives.
	Is there money for them in having people get sicker?
	Well, you know, yes.
	There's reimbursement for patients that are intubated, that are ventilated with a traditional tube.
	You know, I believe that they're paid to use the approved treatments like IV remdesivir.
	In my estimation that, you know, if there is an inexpensive alternative like ivermectin, And all this IV remdesivir has been ordered and that there may not be payment from the government to the corporation if ivermectin is used.
	But if IV remdesivir is used because that's on the approved list, then the reimbursement is going to go through.
	What are your plans?
	My plans?
	Right now I'm on the last stop of the Arise USA tour and a lot of truth speak, tell my story.
	I want to, I'm going to be opening a clinic in Okoboji with now my friend and colleague, Dr.
	Ted Pogarty.
	And we're going to do a clinic that is a common sense approach clinic where you're not required to wear masks.
	You can choose to if you would like to, but you don't have to to enter our clinic.
	We're going to implement functional medicine, some natural non-pharmacologic treatments, hyperbaric treatments.
	We'll still do traditional medicine, I will, as a family physician.
	I'm kind of in all of the above approach with regard to my treatments.
	I believe that there's a big desire for the patients to go to a place just as much as there's a desire of physicians to work at a place where they're not being told what to do and how to practice.
	Patients feel the same way now.
	They don't want to come into the I want a healing environment.
	And I do believe that powering up our mitochondria, we can make that one of our best pharmaceutical, our own pharmaceutical company that's got already innately put into our body.
	So we can help ourselves heal by giving ourselves the right nutrients and the hyperbaric medicine.
	Increased atmospheric pressure usage in a broad range of Treatments across the country, starting off in northwest of Iowa.
	And how is, I know Ted Fogarty, but he's from Fargo, North Dakota.
	Is he commuting to Okeechobee?
	Well, he was there for 15 years.
	He was the head of the UND, chair of the radiology department.
	And his kids are done with high school now.
	One's at Creighton, the other one's St.
	Olaf in the Twin Cities.
	So they're moving west to Ogallala, western Nebraska, but the plan is for us to be in both places.
	And where we start this clinic, he and his wife, Carolyn, are committed to spending some time in northwest Iowa to get this thing running.
	Well, thank you so much for joining me, Dr.
	Bradley Meyer.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Thank you for putting patient health Ahead of your own career.
	Ahead of corporate profit taking.
	Thank you, Dr.
	Bradley Meyer.
	God bless you.

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