Timothy Harrington discusses his inured son with RFK Jr. Timothy's 21-year-old son suffered severe heart inflammation after receiving his second shot. Justin Harrington, whose school required him to get it in order to attend classes in the fall, experienced flu-like symptoms followed by heart pain within eight to 12 hours of receiving the vaccine. Justin’s father, Timothy Harrington, said his son felt different after the second shot. “Every time his heart beat it hurt and he felt pressure,” Harrington said. “Then he developed heart pain down both arms.”
Hey everybody, I have a guest I wanted to introduce you to today, Timothy Harrington from Rockaway, New Jersey, and I wanted you to talk about what happened to you and to your son over the last couple days.
My son was, one goes to NGIT, one goes to Seton Hall.
Part of the requirement for them was to Be vaccinated prior to coming back.
And they, you know, they're pushing and pushing.
I wanted to wait till, you know, obviously September till more data came in.
And again, the requirement and the push came and they went and took, one took the first shot, he's fine.
And the second, the one that's having the problem at the second shot, he had the obvious, the obvious reaction, which was his myocardialitis or however you say it properly, but probably about 20 hours after he got the shot.
So, I mean, I was on it already and I started medicating and stuff like that.
And I hate to see what happens if you aren't on top of it.
And I was just, the problem I had with the whole entire process was, why are we This is a test vaccine.
I'm not anti-vax and just clearing up.
I'm not on a political piece either here.
This is the one sector of our society that is least affected by this virus.
And to make it a requirement and a must for a kid to come back, like my kids are really great in school.
They care about it.
So they're going to follow the rules.
So you're making it a requirement and knowing that we're even having any issues, making it, we're a test, we're in a test right now.
And making a requirement for the one whole sector of society, it was my big push and my big problem with the school.
And now my kid is a statistic, a stat, versus a...
We had the option and we wanted to take it.
They both had the virus and didn't have any reaction to it.
So why would I want to go...
Why am I wanting to vaccinate him with a test vaccination?
And now, again, we're having the problems with this.
What is your son's name?
Justin.
Justin Harrington.
And how old is he?
He's 21.
He was like a sophomore or a junior?
No, he finished his junior year.
Now he's going into his senior year at NGIT to be an engineer.
Bigger problem with a lot of that, too, is not only the medical effect, is he's now missing out on doing his internships or any of that kind of thing as well.
So it's...
It's a double inconvenience, I guess we'd say.
But we don't know what the long-term effects are going to be.
So they're saying, you know, six months of meds and no strenuous activity, and we'll see what happens.
But as my son says, and like I said, we brought the light to Morristown Memorial, which I have to say did a great job.
They, I think, used it as a case study, and now hopefully...
They'll see it coming in.
They're going to see a lot of it coming in because now these kids going to college, if they're being forced, you're going to see an awful lot of this.
I have three or four friends that their kids had the same exact thing.
I didn't have one friend that had a kid that had any adverse hospitalization or crazy sickness.
So that's a disturbing part of all this.
The important thing here is to absorb data.
Data is power.
As Elon Musk said and stuff like that, it's like, why aren't we putting bad information out there or One shoe not fitting everybody.
That doesn't work.
So as things change or things like this come in, we should be certainly using it and changing course a little bit.
Finding out who's more susceptible to this problem, etc.
Why are we forcing...
The only people that are forced to get this are the one sector of society that doesn't get affected.
The teachers don't even have to get it.
It's sort of crazy thinking.
And I understand what they're talking about.
They wanted to boost herd immunity.
So when you boost bursting herd immunity, having been around it, most of these kids had it ready.
And they didn't even know they had it.
At least my kids.
How do you know your kids had COVID-19?
Because when they went back to college, you know, when they were starting to go, they went back, they tested, and he had to do confinement or whatever for 10 days.
But he didn't lose even taste or smell.
Oh, he had an antibody test?
No, he had the actual COVID test, and they said he had COVID. And they isolated him and his roommates and stuff like that.
But not one of them had a side effect even.
If you had said to the school, we have proof that my son had COVID. I know.
Not at all.
I know exactly where you go with that.
The most disturbing part is I call the Dean of Students at NJIT and I go, I didn't even tell him my kid was in the hospital.
It was serious at that time.
I said, listen, there's more of my kids saying it.
I don't want my friends to go through this crap.
This is going to be six months of crap.
So I'm talking to the Dean of Students, and I go, I had all this great information, stats and numbers and things.
I'm talking to an educator, and he's giving me this stuff back.
I go, I know your premise.
I know what you're trying to do.
I get it.
But now we know this, this, and this.
You're an educator.
You have a medical school.
Why are you arguing with me?
I go, it should be like, yeah, yeah, Mr.
Harrington.
Great.
That's great information.
We're going to reconvene and look at that.
But they're not.
It's like you're forcing bad information.
That's the dumbest thing in the world.
Why are you fighting the conversation?
My kid had to do it.
So he had an option, what, to not go to school?
You're going to your senior year.
He's already screwed up with his internships and stuff.
He's a real student.
How many kids are going to say, no, I'm not going to Penn State?
Who's going to say that?
They're going to be forced into it.
But not gathering the information and the statistics and utilizing it properly doesn't make you dumb or stupid or wrong.
It makes you smarter.
Information is power.
I do a lot of the blockchain stuff and stuff like that.
We're obviously tracking all this stuff.
They're not even reporting it properly.
You know what I'm saying?
They're worried about people that are going to go anti-vax or whatever.
No, just give the proper information.
You'd probably have more faith in the information the government is putting out if you had real numbers that you could trust.
Every time you turn around, it looks like they're hiding something or whatever.
Knowing that it affects these young men especially, but I have two of my friends' daughters that I've had the same problem.
It's crazy.
I shouldn't know this many people in this short amount of time that are having this problem.
COVID was around for a year and a half.
I don't have any of my friends with kids that, oh my God, my son's in the hospital.
I didn't hear anything.
Six of my friends.
I don't have a ton of friends.
That's too many.
That's a bad stat.
But talking to the guy, I felt dumber for the experience.
I'm talking to people that work with the vaccine, heart doctors, really smart people.
And I'm like, how come I have this reason you don't?
You have a med school.
They're so worried about changing course.
There's nothing wrong with changing course, but the government can't make it mandatory.
So either can they.
One, you're exposing yourself tremendously.
I mean, you're forcing kids to run into a burning building.
You're not sure if you're going to catch a fire or not.
That was the disturbing part.
The fact that the numbers, you've seen a lot more reporting now about it, but it's like, they're so worried about people not Turning course on it, not taking it.
They're willing to take the risk.
We don't know what this is going to do in 10 years or not.
That's why most things go through trials.
Well, we're in a human trial now, so you have to change and adjust as you go.
How is Justin now?
He's got the heart monitor.
He's got his sleep sitting up.
He, you know, he'll get, if he sleeps laying, he can't lay down or he'll get, he'll see the pains.
He'll get the occasional, you know, sharp pain in his chest.
That'll give you, we don't have tremendous anxiety, but somebody that's such a goody two-shoe, you know, student, engineer guy, you know, he's that type of kid.
You know, you get that, you know, in the middle of the night, you know, it's scary.
They say, you know, his heart doctor's a great guy.
They say hopefully in a couple weeks, inflammation will start going down.
You know, he has to stay.
They don't want him to exert himself for like three months.
You know, we'll see how it goes.
But nobody really knows, right?
We'll see.
But it's probably a little scary for him.
What was the first sign that he was sick?
Did he get this from his physician?
No, he did it, I think, the local pharmacy or something.
He came home, he got the standard flu-like conditions, which is when you take a vaccine, usually that's your immune system starting.
So that's normal.
And then probably 10 hours, 12 hours after the vaccine, he was getting the flu-like symptoms.
Then he started just feeling a little discomfort.
Another couple of hours he came down is like every heartbeat hurt.
So I started calling on people and you know, somebody sent me this, uh, myocarditis thing and I hadn't heard of it.
And I just, I looked at him like, you know what?
Heart beating is that's pressure.
That's inflammation.
So I went and it was, I think Sunday, Sunday, he got it Saturday.
That was Sunday.
I went and got anti-inflammatories and gave him an aspirin.
I said, you know, I stayed up all night waiting to see how it was going to be, and I already made the decision I could get him to the hospital.
The next morning he had pain down his arms, throat.
It was a little scary.
We went to the hospital, Morristown, and they did EKG. I'm lucky at the EKG. I've seen it was off.
The place was packed, which scares me too.
It was like 75 people, beds.
There was 150 people in the place.
Anyway, they took him ahead.
They went through, did all the blood work, seen the proteins were higher.
And, you know, we had great discussions, they had a good team, and we got on it, and we talked about, you know, I want this reported, blah, blah, blah.
We went through the whole thing, and I hope they did as well.
He's been there for three days, and here we are.
He was in the ICU for three days?
They call it the cardiac...
Monitoring for whatever it was.
Now he has a monitor.
So when he has a pain, he presses it so they can see time of, you know, what's going on at that moment.
He'll have that for another week or so.
And then he's got the three or four meds that he has to take every few hours.
That's the course of action right now.
So it's minor scarring and inflammation around the heart.
And that's the disease.
The doctors who you talked to in the Morristown Hospital, have they seen this And that was a discussion.
I think we sort of enlightened them.
And they sort of jumped on it, I think.
I think they made him a position to educate everybody else because he's seen almost every high-end heart guy in the hospital.
And they really got on it and treated him pretty well.
And I just said, as my son said, I just don't want this to happen to my friends.
You know, this is terrible.
He didn't know where he was going.
At that time, it was a little dicey because he was getting horrendous pain and whatnot.
And they said, you know what, you're right.
And I said, I said, well, how many of these have you had?
And the guy's like, well, quite a few, but they're usually associated with, I go, come on.
I said, how many right after the vaccine?
You have to report this because those numbers are so important.
Statistics are super important.
So, I mean, just like Elon Musk, beautiful, beautiful comments he made.
And it's like, it's this weird peer pressure about this thing.
It's like, It's okay that every shoe doesn't fit every foot.
It's okay to get this information.
There's a way of delivering and using it properly.
You know, that's the terrible part.
If we don't have good information, as they say, good in, bad in, bad out.
You know, good in, good out.
It's Joe Rogan for making the same comment I'm making right now.
It's not an anti-vaxxer political statement.
It's knowing that causes these problems.
Everybody dials all over.
What's wrong with everybody?
Who are we supposed to believe?
We can't believe media.
We can't believe government.
That's craziness.
I'm not against the vaccine.
I've rid of smallpox.
I've rid of polio.
It's gotten rid of a lot of things.
But this one came out as an emergency vaccine.
I'm not saying it's bad.
I'm just saying as information comes out, we know we shouldn't be giving it to younger people at 25 and under or People would type a lot or whatever the case may be as the information comes out.
They're so worried about saying anything bad that they're, because somebody will stop taking the vaccine.
I think that's their mindset.
Like they threw like common sense out the window.
And we've seen that across the board lately.
The bigger problem is who do you believe?
What do you say?
I just had a discussion with a friend of mine, his daughter was due to get her second shot.
And he's like, I'm nervous about this.
I go, hey, the cardiologist told me, do not let your second son get the second shot.
I said the same thing.
I'll take 75%.
She's 15 years old.
What the hell are we doing?
What are we worried about her for?
Well, her mother has MS. I'm like, did your wife get it?
He goes, yes.
I said, well, that's the one that should have got it.
What's the difference?
Why does a 15-year-old have to get it?
Because you don't need it.
Your wife needs it.
That's what I don't get.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm stupid.
Who knows?
But it's similar to what Joe got slammed for.
I don't think it's irrational to say what I'm saying.
Is to gather the information and as it changes, hey, you'll learn.
It's power.
Like I watched a guy on Channel 12, he's a doctor.
He's throwing out the wrong number, bad information.
I go, why?
And it's like, I have the real number, I was actually looking at the numbers as he's talking.
And he was, it was a, he's just throwing stuff out there, off the cup.
You don't do that.
They're believing what you say.
So there's nothing wrong with that.
But the numbers, it seemed like, are the real numbers reported?
They're trying to follow.
My son actually went in.
The hospital said they reported it, and I hope they did.
Bears.
Okay, so my son, again, he's super diligent.
He's not me.
He's super good.
He follows through with everything.
He filed with them, and your associate said and reminded I was with him at the time, did they call you back?
No, I didn't even get an email or nothing.
Okay, well, they're supposed to be.
She says, they're supposed to send a reply or they're supposed to call you or something.
It seems like there's just Not taking it seriously.
They're trying to throw a cover over it.
But that's so stupid.
I'm not anti-vax.
I hate when I see stuff like that.
You want that information.
It's great to have that information.
Because you can correct it.
You can turn...
Hey, it might be certain nationalities.
It might be certain blood types.
It might be certain things that...
That information that dials down.
Again, I deal with blockchain and all that kind of stuff in my business.
So we can track anything.
We can do more than I think we're doing here.
So if he sends that in, and we're really trying to investigate this, as your associate said, why isn't he getting a call back?
That was over a week ago.
You know what I'm saying?
And this is a hot item right now.
We're investigating this.
Well, this is one of the, as the doctor said, thank God I was on it and I pre-medicated him.
He would have been a real severe case.
Where's this going to go?
All these college kids right now are just starting to get their first shots.
It was three weeks or four, a month ago or something we started this, that age group.
So, I mean, there's going to be a lot of kids getting their second shot and we're going to see a lot of issues.
I'm just saying to the schools and whatnot, stop making it mandatory for the part of society that isn't even affected by this.
The Lancet did publish a study a couple of weeks ago in which they looked at the risk from COVID-19 from the disease to children between 4 years old and 16 years old, and the death rate was 1.6 per million.
And are those numbers good?
Well, yeah, you don't know those.
And also those numbers will have gone way down because now most states are at natural herd immunity.
So as Elon Musk was saying too, it was like, hey, these are smart guys.
Yeah, let's get the numbers straight.
Okay, let's start ripping through the numbers and getting it right.
It's very frustrating that in the 21st century that we can't get numbers.
We've got AI. We've got machine learning.
Exactly.
That's my business.
We own that technology.
It drives me nuts.
I'm a stat guy.
I mean, just, hey, 9 out of 10 dentists surveyed.
That's what we heard our whole life, right?
So, I mean, the news isn't the news anymore.
You know, and again, I always say apolitical and I'm not anti-vax.
I'm really not.
This is great.
You got this thing out there.
You got to hustle.
That's awesome.
But when you see something happening, the five people with Johnson and Johnson, they stopped the vaccine.
Why play it down?
How about maybe it's not a great idea.
Herd immunity has already been affected with these kids.
The test they should be giving is the, you know, the antibody tests.
You know, it's crazy.
And I get what they're saying with the, you know, There's a ton of people that may need it, but hey, one of them may be worse than the other or better for the other.
One may be better for a certain person's type.
And as we garner that information, maybe blood types, Johnson& Johnson is better.
Maybe Moderna is better for people that are whatever.
Maybe I'm stupid.
I don't know.
I think common sense isn't so common anymore.
And it's like when you can't believe the government's spitting stuff out and they're shaming people or, you know, I mean, you look at the Joe Rogan thing, I go, I didn't say anything more than I'm saying.
I'm actually saying more probably.
They shamed the crap out of you.
It shouldn't be that.
And gaslighting you.
Exactly.
Totally.
Totally.
And, you know, you might get beat up for having this discussion.
But I'm not, again, that's why I'm helping you out.
I'm not anti-vax.
I'm not anti-vax.
And it's not political.
You know, it's not.
But as I said, Elon Musk and Joe Rogan are the two things I watched.
I go, wow, they think just like I am.
Why come on, let's see that.
And then my son, I get so mad that my ex-wife had my son Got an appointment for him.
I asked him to wait, and that's all I asked.
And then all of a sudden, of course, after he has his problem the next day, I see it on the news.
I go, aye, aye, aye.
Now I'm a stat.
Or she's a stat.
And again, he made the nice comment of, okay, I don't want my friends to go through.
This is terrible.
When you're 21, you're getting chest pains and you're having a heart attack.
It seems to be a heart attack.
God, what would have happened if I wasn't on it?
I'm more astute to body function and things like that.
Another friend of ours said his daughter would open hearts or something.
They weighed it.
So what happens if people are right on top of this?
So not educating people on it.
The first time today, I'm sorry, the first time today I seen something is, hey, if your son gets a vaccine or daughter And, you know, they start getting chest pains or, you know, get them right to a hospital.
The first time I seen it was today.
Where did you see that?
I think it was on one of the news things or one of the, some internet piece.
I've been pushing this just to educate, you know, parents and stuff.
And my biggest thing is I just really, I really, like, Dean of Students, come on, man.
You know, it's like, you're a school.
You're a school and spewing crap out.
Okay, everybody's already paying for this.
Is this what happens in their class?
My son already had to teach himself all last year because of COVID. You know, he's an engineering student.
You know, you're not doing labs, you're not doing stuff.
That was tough enough.
It's time for the colleges to start putting out decent information too.
I guess that's another, I guess, now that I think about it, what are we talking about?
You know, colleges are pushing agendas, but this is not an agenda you need to push.
They have all this data now from Israel that shows that kids are not spreading the virus.
Even when they don't, they tend to internalize it.
They're not coughing.
They're not sneezing.
It's required for the students, but it's not required for the teachers.
I'm like, what?
You know, the other thing that we now have very good science on, if you're young and you get this, most of the kids are young.
99% of them are going to get it.
They don't even know they have it.
But if you're young and you get it, you now have lifetime immunity, and the lifetime immunity is good against all variants.
Yeah.
And if you get the vaccine, you now have to get the vaccine every year for the rest of your life as the new variants go.
Exactly.
And again, I mean, I'm not a med school student, but I'm like, this is common sense stuff.
I've done everything short of licking doorknobs, for God's sakes.
A vaccine exposure is a vaccine.
I hate going to school, I have a huge family like yourself.
I never got sick because my mother's throwing me out, you know, come back filthy dirty and you're exposed.
And these guys can't be that stupid.
So you lose your competence in these colleges and the government and these, you know, I'm going to tell you the doctors were great and it seems like I enlightened them almost and they really got on it.
And I said, just please use this information.
Please get this data down.
But then, you know, as your associate called, I got a little disconcerted.
I was so excited that he even reported it.
He's just supposed to call him back.
So, well, there it goes.
So, good information in, bad information out.
You know, it's like, you know, that's the...
The disconcerting part.
Who do you listen to?
What do you say?
Like the three people I just spoke to prior to you, they kind of want to give it to them, but their wife's getting pressure and shaming.
You know, people are getting shamed into this thing.
You know, it's like, why isn't everybody just standing back and like, take a look at this?
All right, let's take a breather here.
Okay, you know, and who's gathering this information?
It's not that hard.
You know they're not reporting a lot of it.
How about the kids that aren't getting...
100% of the pressure going, you know, that they're not going to the hospital, etc.
What's going to happen five years from now for these kids?
Don't shame people for not wanting their kid to get vaccinated.
Well, Timothy, thank you so much for joining us.
And we will all pray for Justin.
I hope he recovers.
And, you know, thank you for your courage about talking about this.
And thank you for your common sense.
Well, like you said, we hope people start getting that back again.
