True Capitalist Radio - February 20th, 2008 True Conservative Radio Hosted By Ghost
Aired: 2008-02-20
Duration: 01:54:51


=== Real Issues for America (11:48) ===

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[00:00:30]  Blog Talk Radio.
[00:00:34]  How's it going, folks?
[00:00:37]  Let me tell you something.
[00:00:38]  I think we're having some technical difficulties, unfortunately, here at the Blog Talk Radio Network.
[00:00:44]  And if I'm coming in a little staticky on you, my sincerest apologies.
[00:00:49]  You know, we've tried to link up several different times, and unfortunately, we're getting this damn static.
[00:00:55]  And that's what we're getting.
[00:00:57]  And let me tell you something.
[00:00:58]  If you're here in static, unless it becomes unbearable to the point where you just can't understand me, please let me know in the chat room or give me a call.
[00:01:07]  The number 646-652-4869.
[00:01:10]  But once again, I'm sorry for the static.
[00:01:12]  It's the Blog Talk Radio Network out here.
[00:01:15]  Can't hook people up with a decent connection out here to broadcast to the people.
[00:01:23]  Anyway, folks, this is another episode of True Conservative Radio.
[00:01:26]  I'm your host, the man they call Ghost.
[00:01:30]  And once again, I'm sorry if I'm coming in a little staticky this evening.
[00:01:34]  This is the Blog Talk Radio Network's department.
[00:01:37]  I don't know what's going on.
[00:01:39]  It seems to me like they're just playing with their pecker shafts, not getting on the ball out here and understanding that there's people that want content, people that want to discuss political topics of that nature, people that want to hear conversations of this nature.
[00:01:54]  And, you know, we're kind of prohibited from doing that because of the fact we're getting staticked out the wazoo, if you will.
[00:02:01]  So anyway, folks, I apologize once again.
[00:02:03]  This is just a random show, free format edition.
[00:02:06]  It's the late, late night hour, folks.
[00:02:09]  Pretty late out here, but, you know, like I said, I'm a little bit of an insomniac.
[00:02:14]  I don't sleep very much at best.
[00:02:16]  At times, I may get about five hours of sleep if I'm lucky.
[00:02:21]  But if not, well, you know how it goes.
[00:02:23]  I'd try to get a couple hours' sleep.
[00:02:27]  Anyway, folks, 646-652-4869.
[00:02:31]  Once again, sorry for the static folks.
[00:02:35]  But things I wanted to talk about this evening, or what I should say, not this evening, but this morning, depending on what part of the country you're in.
[00:02:45]  Once again, I'm sorry for the static folks.
[00:02:48]  And if I just completely sound inaudible, I ask you in the chat room, please let me know.
[00:02:53]  If you can at least somewhat hear me outside of the little static or the little crackle, I'd really appreciate it.
[00:03:00]  But we're going to be talking about all kinds of political subject matters that pertain to America because I don't feel that any of the candidates out here running for president are talking about American politics.
[00:03:11]  I'm talking about issues that pertain to America.
[00:03:15]  And what do I mean, folks?
[00:03:16]  I'm talking about serious economy talk.
[00:03:19]  I'm talking about ways that are going to reconstruct our education system.
[00:03:24]  You see, because our current public education system is retarding creativity.
[00:03:29]  It's retarding critical thinking.
[00:03:31]  And I think that's why we're having somewhat of a little bit of a slowdown in innovation and technology and that sort of thing as far as Americans production is concerned.
[00:03:41]  And I think it has a lot to do with the educational system.
[00:03:46]  You know how it goes.
[00:03:48]  Anyway, folks, once again, I'm sorry for the static.
[00:03:51]  I hear in the chat room that there is a lot of static folks, and I'm sorry.
[00:03:57]  It's just this ridiculous blog talk radio network.
[00:04:00]  Like I stated previous, I wish they would stop playing with their pecker shafts and get their damn ball rolling out here and understand that we want to generate some political content out here.
[00:04:11]  And they're just, you know, kind of deterring it for me by sitting here having this static on this little broadcast this evening.
[00:04:19]  But we need to talk about America, folks.
[00:04:21]  We need to talk about how we're going to stimulate this economy.
[00:04:24]  I'd like everyone to chime in about the economy, if you could.
[00:04:28]  646-652-4869 is the number to call.
[00:04:32]  We want to hear from all political perspectives.
[00:04:35]  I know that I am a conservative.
[00:04:37]  But for all you folks that know me and have listened to the archives or have listened to me in past broadcasts, you understand that I have renounced the Republican Party because I feel that the Republican Party has been hijacked by liberals and has basically just turned its back on its true principles and conservative roots, so to speak.
[00:04:55]  So right now, as I speak and make critical analysis of the political landscape of America, I do so as a complete outsider that is true to his conservative principles and that sort of thing.
[00:05:08]  And once again, I want to thank everybody for coming into the chat room.
[00:05:11]  Please, by all means, if you want to participate in a conversation in this roundtable, it's an impromptu show.
[00:05:17]  Unfortunately, Blog Talk Radio is just having a complete problem with this static situation.
[00:05:24]  And I'm sorry, folks.
[00:05:25]  I mean, if I sound inaudible, please tell me in the chat room if I sound completely inaudible.
[00:05:32]  But the bottom line is, is I think we need to do something as American people.
[00:05:35]  We need to demand that these candidates running for presidency for the most important office in the land out here.
[00:05:44]  Okay, I think what these people need to understand is they need to start talking about things that really mean something to America.
[00:05:50]  And what do I mean by really mean something to America?
[00:05:52]  I'm talking about the economy, once again, folks.
[00:05:56]  I understand that we are beating ass in the war on terror.
[00:06:00]  I understand that what we're doing out here is we are implementing ourselves as the superior superpower in the international community.
[00:06:07]  But what these candidates need to start talking about is they need to start talking about economy, how we're going to stimulate job growth out here, all right?
[00:06:16]  What we're going to do about this illegal alien situation, okay?
[00:06:19]  We've got 20 million illegals out here that have devalued American work labor, excuse me, the cost of labor.
[00:06:27]  Excuse me, I don't mean to be so damn bamboozled out here, but there's so many issues that are being neglected out here that are completely being overlooked by the average American everyday voter.
[00:06:38]  And sometimes it gets me a little flustered, folks, and I apologize.
[00:06:41]  And by all means, I want to get all perspectives in here.
[00:06:44]  646-652-4869 is the number to call.
[00:06:49]  We're talking about issues that really affect America.
[00:06:51]  You know, you've got these candidates out here.
[00:06:53]  They're talking about absolute malarkey, okay, that really pertain to America.
[00:06:57]  And at the same time, I'm not singling out anybody.
[00:07:01]  I'm talking about the people on the right, John Turncoat McCain, who could really give a rat's ass about any true conservative principles or Republican ideology for that matter.
[00:07:10]  And then the communists on the left as well.
[00:07:14]  They're not talking about any of the issues that really affect us, folks.
[00:07:18]  And what's affect us?
[00:07:20]  I'll tell you what affects us.
[00:07:22]  It's the economy.
[00:07:23]  We need to stimulate growth.
[00:07:24]  We need to take care of the problem that we have a devalued dollar, folks.
[00:07:28]  You know that right now in America, there are high-end retail shops in New York City right now that won't accept the American dollar anymore.
[00:07:37]  They'll only accept the Euro dollar, folks.
[00:07:40]  I mean, would you have ever thought you'd see today that this would happen?
[00:07:45]  I don't think so.
[00:07:47]  But this is what we need to be talking about.
[00:07:50]  This is what the politicians need to be talking about.
[00:07:52]  They're not talking about this garbage.
[00:07:54]  What do you have the left talking about?
[00:07:56]  They're talking about nothing but a bunch of handouts.
[00:07:59]  That's what they're talking about, handout health care.
[00:08:02]  Here, let me hand you out some more.
[00:08:03]  Let me give you some more money.
[00:08:05]  What are they talking about on the right?
[00:08:06]  John McCain's talking about more government in our faces, more government regulation, higher taxes.
[00:08:12]  You know, that the barrel of crude oil just hit over $100 a barrel today.
[00:08:19]  I don't know if y'all are familiar with the situation that's happening, but the barrel of oil is over $100, folks.
[00:08:29]  And for all the folks that are out there listening, I'm sorry if you're hearing a little bit of a static noise going on here, but the Blog Talk Radio Network is having a problem.
[00:08:38]  It's having a problem, and unfortunately, we're going to have to deal with the static this evening.
[00:08:42]  I apologize, but I urge you to give me a call in.
[00:08:48]  How's everybody doing here in the chat room?
[00:08:50]  The Poor People's Campaign, Ozone.
[00:08:51]  Heather, once again, thank you for tuning in with me this late evening.
[00:08:56]  We're going to talk about some real political matters that really affect our lives as Americans, folks, as American people.
[00:09:04]  Okay, 646-652-4869.
[00:09:08]  Let's talk about real issues, folks.
[00:09:10]  That's what I want to know.
[00:09:13]  Let's talk about real issues.
[00:09:18]  I mean, it's a scary situation in time that we're living in here.
[00:09:21]  Okay, folks.
[00:09:22]  I mean, this election is very important, and I think that everybody's just, you know, tickling their ass cracks.
[00:09:28]  And pardon the harsh expression, but that's exactly what they're doing when it comes to this election, folks.
[00:09:34]  You know, people aren't voting for the right reasons.
[00:09:37]  And I've stated this over and over.
[00:09:38]  You've got folks out here saying that they're going to vote for Barack Obama because he has nice teeth, because we need young blood, nothing that has anything to do with any kind of political substance, folks.
[00:09:49]  And I think that if we vote for the wrong reasons and we don't demand, we don't force these politicians to start talking some American talk, some talk that's going to affect our issues, our America, our American dollar, then we're just going to get something that we're not going to like, folks, and we're just going to have to pallet it for the next four years.
[00:10:09]  And that's not what I want.
[00:10:11]  That is not what I want.
[00:10:12]  Maybe that's what you want out there, folks, but that's not what I want.
[00:10:16]  I want America, folks.
[00:10:17]  I want America what I used to know of as America.
[00:10:20]  You know, I mean, you've got New York high-end retail stores right now in America that aren't accepting Benjamin Franklin's, folks.
[00:10:29]  They're not accepting American money.
[00:10:31]  They're only accepting the Euro dollar.
[00:10:34]  And none of these candidates are talking about it.
[00:10:36]  And that's what I am bringing these subjects up to light in this particular version of this radio broadcast of True Conservative Radio.
[00:10:45]  And I thank all of you for tuning in with me.
[00:10:47]  We've got a call.
[00:10:49]  And before I take this call, I urge all of you to get to the nearest phone and give me a call at 646-652-4869.
[00:10:56]  And once again, I apologize for the static that's going on here with the broadcast, but the Blog Talk Radio Network is obviously having a technical difficulty.
[00:11:06]  And if you could just bear with the static, I can completely assure you that you'll have a decent broadcast otherwise.
[00:11:13]  And we're going to go ahead and take our first call.
[00:11:15]  The first call here is Ozone.
[00:11:17]  I think it's Ozone.
[00:11:18]  Is that you?
[00:11:20]  Yes, it is.
[00:11:20]  How you doing?
[00:11:21]  How you doing?
[00:11:22]  Yeah, I know I thought that maybe the static would go away by this time, but unfortunately we're continuing to hear static on each broadcast.
[00:11:29]  Yeah.
[00:11:30]  So that's horrible.
[00:11:32]  But well what do you think, Ozone?
[00:11:36]  I think the show is it w people will it's worth listening to you even with the static.
[00:11:41]  But as far as the those retailers that are accepting only the euro, you know, this is part of the balancing act of the economy.

=== Tax Incentives and Trade (15:20) ===

[00:11:49]  And the value of our dollar goes down.
[00:11:51]  There's a lot of everything is cheaper here for Europeans, and they're buying our property.
[00:11:57]  They're buying things.
[00:11:58]  They're spending money on our products are cheaper.
[00:12:00]  And I mean, I don't really I mean, I hope I don't want it to spread, obviously, but if one company accepts the euro, I mean, that's let them do whatever they want.
[00:12:11]  I think that they're not going to get a lot of business.
[00:12:13]  They're going to lose tons of business because of it.
[00:12:16]  I mean, how are people paying if they only accept euros?
[00:12:19]  How how are people transferring money to euros?
[00:12:22]  Well, this is exactly what they're trying to perpetuate, in my view.
[00:12:25]  I mean, I mean, this is just a slippery slope down, oh, you need to exchange your American dollars into Euros at the local currency exchange or some kind of garbage like that.
[00:12:36]  And I think that we're heading down a slippery slope if we're not careful as American people.
[00:12:41]  And I think instead of talking about collateral matters like giving universal health care and ridiculous mumbo jumbo like this, let's talk about real American issues that affect America.
[00:12:52]  The devalue of the American dollar is one.
[00:12:56]  Two, we need to bring back production to America.
[00:12:58]  We need to bring back innovation to America.
[00:13:00]  We need to stimulate job growth in some fashion.
[00:13:03]  And none of these people are talking about it.
[00:13:06]  I think that Obama just barely hinted to the fact that he's against NAFTA, which is a pretty good thing in my view.
[00:13:14]  I don't really like NAFTA.
[00:13:16]  What's your take on NAFTA?
[00:13:20]  Well, I believe that there should be free trade.
[00:13:23]  I really do.
[00:13:24]  I believe that if we can get something cheaper from somewhere else, and it's ridiculous to try to force ourselves to make it ourselves, if we can get it somewhere else cheaper, that we can take cheaper from all the things we get from China, all the cheap products that come from there.
[00:13:40]  We could take those, use those and now and produce something more valuable.
[00:13:45]  I mean, that's what we have to I mean, I don't think it makes sense to not take a product from the cheapest place where you can get it from.
[00:13:54]  I think in the long run, everyone's better off if we do that.
[00:13:58]  I think so.
[00:13:59]  You really think that we're better off shipping out all the means of production outside of the United States, having it done cheaper, having the goods imported into America at a cheaper rate at the expense of American jobs.
[00:14:14]  Now, what do you think?
[00:14:17]  And I understand that.
[00:14:18]  I mean, that's why we have $30 DVD players and whatnot, is the whole concept of free trade.
[00:14:25]  But at the same time, I mean, as the products get cheaper, I think that the wages, as you're seeing here in modern America, are getting cheaper.
[00:14:34]  What are we going to do, first of all, outside of the whole immigration factor about 20 million illegal immigrants that are devaluing the cost of labor, let's just X that equation out.
[00:14:44]  What are we going to do to stimulate economy and innovation, productivity, entrepreneurship, production?
[00:14:53]  What do you think that would help or set us in the right direction?
[00:14:58]  Well, the number one thing, and this is the most important thing to me, I think, is cutting taxes.
[00:15:04]  Do not put a stranglehold on the businesses on the production, whatever they're going to produce in the next year.
[00:15:12]  Don't raise the give them as much credit as we can to produce.
[00:15:16]  That will I think an American entrepreneur and the American business owners and Americans will take care of it like they always did.
[00:15:24]  The pro you know, we just got to keep the tax rate low.
[00:15:27]  And then even if the government starts spending money on things that they shouldn't, it's not good.
[00:15:31]  But it's not if we cut taxes, we'll grow.
[00:15:35]  We'll we'll just continue growing and prod we'll produce and we'll compete.
[00:15:38]  The best thing that these other countries want, China and India, the best thing that they can wish for is that we raise taxes and put more regulations, give more power to unions, raise the minimum wage.
[00:15:49]  That just means that it's more worth it to do business in China than in America.
[00:15:53]  And then people are going to go to China.
[00:15:55]  I mean, if we cut taxes, it's not going to be more worth it.
[00:15:57]  For some things, it might be.
[00:15:58]  Some jobs are going to have to lose.
[00:16:00]  We want to pay 10 cents for a C D instead of $1, or even $0.05 for a C D, but most job but not all of them will go.
[00:16:07]  Unless if we have a low tax rate, a lot of them are leaving because the production of next year, they're going to pay if because they're in a high bracket, they're going to pay forty five after all is said and done, 45 percent on taxes when in China they'll pay twenty percent or somewhere else.
[00:16:21]  Why would anyone stay here?
[00:16:23]  We can't stop them from going.
[00:16:24]  We're a business.
[00:16:25]  We're competing with other countries for business.
[00:16:27]  And basically, if we charge them up the nose, they're going to leave.
[00:16:30]  We have to cut taxes, cut regulation, cut unions, cut health care out of the employee healthcare, you know, let the businesses focus on providing the best product at the best price.
[00:16:41]  So you think that that would spawn production in America, innovation, that sort of thing, if we cut taxes on what?
[00:16:48]  Small businesses, corporate America, is it a geared tax break or is it all around tax break on anybody who's willing to put their money where their mouth is?
[00:16:59]  I think it should be really even a ten, fifteen percent tax rate.
[00:17:05]  I think the lower we cut the taxes, the more the money, the more government the money is going to have.
[00:17:09]  I think the cut you cut, cut, cut, cut, we're going to have more and more.
[00:17:12]  The government's going to collect more, we're going to produce more.
[00:17:14]  I think it's all in the tax rate.
[00:17:16]  And even if the rich pay 10 percent and the poor pay 10 percent, they're still paying 10 times more because 10 percent of a million is 100,000 and 10 percent of $30,000 a year is $3,000.
[00:17:27]  Even if we all pay 10 percent, the rich are still paying way more.
[00:17:31]  I mean, it's ridiculous how the rich would even at the same percentage rate, the rich pay more.
[00:17:36]  But then what we do is we charge the rich even a higher percentage rate.
[00:17:40]  You know, I think everyone should pay a flat the same percent, which means the rich will pay more in total dollar amount.
[00:17:47]  But the tax, you know, just let businesses compete and get credit for what they produce.
[00:17:51]  If they can do that, they'll stay here.
[00:17:53]  If they can get more credit somewhere else, they're going to go.
[00:17:57]  Well, you know, I can agree to that.
[00:17:59]  And there's a few people listening to us, and I appreciate it.
[00:18:02]  I'm sorry about the static.
[00:18:03]  We're having a problem here at Blog Talk Radio.
[00:18:06]  But you can go ahead and give us a call right now, 646-652-4869.
[00:18:11]  Right now, we're talking about the economy, what we can do to help stimulate this thing.
[00:18:17]  Ozone is of the persuasion that the free trade is a good thing.
[00:18:21]  Me, I'm starting to have second guesses on that, ozone, but I'm just going to say that your persuasion is that free trade is a good thing based on the fact that we can get products at a cheaper rate, given that there's other people in the international community that are willing to do the same work at a cheaper labor rate so that we can move the means of production outside the United States and let these foreign countries produce these products so we can have twenty or thirty dollar DVD players,
[00:18:51]  that sort of thing.
[00:18:52]  But in the long run, I think that and I understand what you're talking about about tax breaks, but if we give tax breaks to those corporations that are benefiting off becoming a multinational corporation, don't you think that it's just going to benefit their own bank accounts as opposed to them wanting to continue to invest here in America for any type of manufacturing or production matters?
[00:19:19]  I think what we need to do is we need to hold corporate America account, or at least the government in some sort, and make these government or make these corporations understand that, look, you were born here in America.
[00:19:31]  Is your loyalty to China, is your loyalty to wh wherever their second base is?
[00:19:38]  And if they say no, their loyalty is to America, well then we then we can talk about possibly giving some tax cuts or some sort of tax breaks to these corporations so they can bring back the means of production here or spawn innovation, put money in innovation so that we can stimulate jobs.
[00:19:58]  You see, the only people that are talking about any of this are you and me right now, Ozone, because the candidates for president, all they're talking about is raising taxes, putting more government regulation.
[00:20:10]  The left is talking about handouts.
[00:20:12]  All we want as American people is the opportunity to work, make our own money and live our own lives with dignity.
[00:20:19]  And I don't think that any of these candidates are doing that or even providing any discourse on that subject matter.
[00:20:24]  What do you think?
[00:20:26]  Well, I think the incentive to produce and invest into America and start businesses in America is 100% correlated to the profit that we make.
[00:20:37]  In a perfect system, in a perfect capitalist system, everyone gets exactly the credit for what they produce.
[00:20:43]  That's what capitalism is.
[00:20:44]  I produce something that I can sell that someone else thinks is worth $5, I can sell it for $5.
[00:20:49]  If it costs me $3 to make it, then I make $2.
[00:20:51]  But I produce something worth $5.
[00:20:54]  I get $5.
[00:20:56]  That's going to give me the most incentive to produce when I can get as much credit as possible for a product I produce, and that would be the price that I could sell it for.
[00:21:04]  But any time you reduce from there, you're reducing production.
[00:21:08]  So the government takes taxes because it has to run its thing and enforce the laws and provide security.
[00:21:13]  The government takes taxes.
[00:21:14]  It should only take the minimum it needs because every time it takes more, it's reducing the incentive to produce.
[00:21:21]  The incentive to produce in China is still there, but here it's 50% less.
[00:21:26]  The incentive to produce is based on the tax rate.
[00:21:29]  And I mean, it's basic, you know, we have to remember that we can't charge businesses too much and still expect them to stay here.
[00:21:38]  If we raise the tax rate, we're doing China's work for them.
[00:21:43]  They know they're going to grow.
[00:21:44]  If China raised their tax rate to 50%, we'll grow.
[00:21:48]  They'll start moving over here.
[00:21:52]  You don't have to be an economist to understand.
[00:21:54]  If they charge the 50% tax rate, companies that were moving over there will now turn around and move over here, even though their wages are higher.
[00:22:00]  The wages are not that big a deal.
[00:22:02]  A lot of things are mechanized.
[00:22:05]  It's the tax rates and the unions that are scaring them more than anything else.
[00:22:09]  Don't you think, though, also, Ozone, at this point, if we just lower the tax rate for the multinational corporations, because they would be the one who basically benefits off these tax breaks you're talking about.
[00:22:23]  At this point, do you think that we can unconditionally give these tax breaks to these multinational corporations and expect them to somehow parlay those tax breaks or however they're compensated?
[00:22:38]  Do you actually expect them to reinvest that in United States jobs or United States production?
[00:22:44]  I don't think they will, Ozone.
[00:22:46]  I think what they'll utilize America for at that point is some sort of a money laundering scheme so that they won't have to pay as much taxes from revenues generated at an international level.
[00:22:59]  I think that we need to and I hate to say this because I'm a true conservative, I'm a Republican, but at this time, I think we need the government to make sure that these multinational corporations either have their loyalty to America or they have their loyalty to the international community.
[00:23:15]  And if that's the case, well then why are we going to give tax breaks to those who are going to be l loyal to countries and populaces outside of the homeland when all they'll do is take those tax breaks generated and go reinvest in the per-world countries that's making them all their millions.
[00:23:34]  You see, we need tax breaks.
[00:23:37]  We need people that are true patriots out here that are going to put their money where their mouths are and go out and become true entrepreneurs.
[00:23:45]  We need a better education system that spawns creativity, that spawns critical thinking.
[00:23:50]  We need to start producing in the way of innovation.
[00:23:53]  We need an economic environment that is conducive to such matters.
[00:23:58]  And I don't think that any of the candidates at this point are talking about it.
[00:24:01]  And for that matter, I don't think that the landscape we have currently is comparable to do such a thing.
[00:24:08]  What do you think?
[00:24:10]  Well, I think thinking about businesses that they have to be loyal to America and hoping on that is this is for me, it's the same thing as like liberals that say oh, there's doctors that are going to work and be doctors.
[00:24:22]  Even though they get paid less, they're still going to do the doctor's job.
[00:24:25]  No, they're going to do, they're going to go into a competing business, any other business, they're not going to do that or profits.
[00:24:30]  If you give tax breaks to the companies, basically you're giving them.
[00:24:33]  You know you're giving them their money.
[00:24:35]  You're not giving them their own money back.
[00:24:37]  It's not like they're giving someone else's money welfare to the comp corporations.
[00:24:40]  You're giving them their own money back and that by itself creates an incentive for them to stay in America because they see it's now more worth it to do business in America.
[00:24:49]  Now I used to make $70,000 on this store.
[00:24:53]  Now I make $90,000 on my store.
[00:24:55]  You know, now it's worth it to open another store.
[00:24:57]  If you're gonna, if you're gonna not get, if you're gonna take away and I only make sixty thousand dollars per store it might not be worth it for me to go and do all the risk that's involved in investing opening another stores a lot of restaurants.
[00:25:08]  You know, if they make eighty thousand, a hundred thousand a year, they might not open another one, but if they make a hundred fifty, two hundred thousand, they will.
[00:25:14]  When you, when you give a tax break no well, you see, that's what I'm talking about.
[00:25:17]  There's a there's a difference between somebody who's running a restaurant and somebody else who's running a multinational corporation.
[00:25:23]  Now, if we want to gear to tax rebates, if we want to gear some sort of financial incentives to spawn people into becoming entrepreneurs and going out and making their businesses, whatever it may be and look, I understand that there's only a limited amount of restaurants, bars and the typical service industry, because that's the only thing we produce out here but I think that we need an economic environment that is conducive to creating more innovative ways of solving problems.
[00:25:52]  I mean, that's the only way we're going to create innovation out here is if we have an economic landscape that's comfortable enough and and we have an educated youth that's smart enough to create, you know, solutions to problems that will generate new innovations, that will create new industries.
[00:26:09]  I mean, this is what America needs and nobody's talking about it, man.
[00:26:13]  Well look, I'm telling you, the businesses we have to, we have to make it, as we have to take away the least from them, to have them stay in America.
[00:26:21]  We have to take away the least from them.
[00:26:23]  We have to give them as much as we can, but we don't.
[00:26:26]  The government never Gives an incentive to any business to produce by tax breaks.
[00:26:31]  The only thing the government does with taxes, the second they put down a 1% tax, even a 1% tax, they are in reducing the incentive produced, they're taking away.
[00:26:40]  Normally, he would get $100, now he's getting $99.
[00:26:43]  That's less.
[00:26:43]  So there's less incentive.
[00:26:44]  And all the entrepreneurship, it's ready to happen.
[00:26:47]  But the government has pushed so far hard into the freaking life of the business owner and entrepreneur, 40% taxes, 35%, and so much taxes and regulation in unions.
[00:26:57]  I mean, I would hire someone to work, but you know what?
[00:27:00]  In New York, I don't even want to hire anyone.
[00:27:02]  There's so much regulation, so much paperwork.
[00:27:04]  I've got to start filling out forms, paying this tax, providing this, doing that, and I can't fire them.

=== Credit, Jobs, and Taxes (06:00) ===

[00:27:09]  They can sue me for a thousand different reasons.
[00:27:10]  I don't even want to deal with it.
[00:27:12]  This is what happens.
[00:27:14]  We need to unleash entrepreneurship safety and keep control, but we have to let people get every dollar of credit for what they produce.
[00:27:23]  That's why they go to China.
[00:27:24]  Because here they got to pay taxes, and there they don't.
[00:27:28]  Here they got to deal with unions and health care, and there they don't.
[00:27:30]  It's just that.
[00:27:32]  It's simply that.
[00:27:33]  It's not the wages.
[00:27:34]  Those people don't speak the language.
[00:27:36]  It's 5,000 miles away.
[00:27:37]  Sure, some things maybe they can move.
[00:27:39]  But most of the things they're not going to move.
[00:27:41]  Machinery is taking over in manufacturing.
[00:27:44]  Mostly machinery.
[00:27:47]  I just think the taxes are the key.
[00:27:48]  Taxes, if we cut the taxes on everyone, let everyone get the credit for what they produce, and they'll produce the most.
[00:27:56]  If you give them the most credit, they will produce the most.
[00:27:58]  It's all right there.
[00:27:59]  I'm telling you, I think the economy is ready to explode.
[00:28:03]  You really think so?
[00:28:05]  You think we're at a peak of exploding again?
[00:28:07]  In what industry, what sector?
[00:28:09]  In your view?
[00:28:11]  First of all, every industry is exploded.
[00:28:13]  I mean, we take it for granted, but we live in America, even the poor, in a paradise.
[00:28:19]  In a paradise, even the poor.
[00:28:22]  If your neighborhood is dirty, then it's cleaned up.
[00:28:24]  If there's gangs and crime, that's police.
[00:28:26]  But as far as economically with products, you can get any job, and you can have a home with kitchen, fridge, microwave, car, TV, in three rooms.
[00:28:38]  You can have an iPod.
[00:28:39]  Everyone has cell phones.
[00:28:40]  Even the poor are wearing branding clothing.
[00:28:42]  There's thousands of choices in every store.
[00:28:44]  It's really a miracle that I'm always in shock when I'm like, look at everything that I have that I can choose from for $1.99, $2.99, $3.99.
[00:28:52]  There's people wanting to serve me, giving me every flavor of drink that I want.
[00:28:56]  No matter what I want, they made it.
[00:28:57]  They thought of me.
[00:28:57]  Every color of paint or carpet.
[00:28:59]  Someone thought of it.
[00:29:00]  Every style.
[00:29:01]  There's so much.
[00:29:02]  It's unbelievable.
[00:29:05]  And the more you give people the credit for producing, the more they're going to produce.
[00:29:08]  I mean, just simple, it's like logic.
[00:29:10]  The more credit people will get for producing, the more they'll produce.
[00:29:13]  And when they say they're going to raise the tax rate to 40% on the production, they're saying that anyone that produces next year, we don't take money from people that already have money.
[00:29:22]  They already have their billions.
[00:29:23]  We're taxing what they're going to produce next year.
[00:29:26]  We're taxing the production.
[00:29:27]  We're saying if you produce, it's like giving a ticket to people for producing.
[00:29:30]  It's like giving out tickets.
[00:29:31]  Every time someone, the more people you produce, the more tickets you get.
[00:29:33]  You have to pay.
[00:29:34]  They're saying they're going to go to China for sure.
[00:29:36]  Well, you make some valid points.
[00:29:38]  And there's people listening in right now.
[00:29:41]  I'd like for them to chime in.
[00:29:42]  Sorry about the static once again, folks, but we're having problems with BTR, Blog Talk Radio.
[00:29:48]  Give me a call.
[00:29:49]  We want to hear from you as well.
[00:29:50]  We're talking about economics.
[00:29:51]  We're talking about other subject matters that are going to pertain to America in this upcoming election out here.
[00:29:58]  The number 646-652-4869 is the number to call.
[00:30:03]  And you can go ahead and call up at any time here.
[00:30:07]  Let me ask you a question.
[00:30:08]  What's that?
[00:30:09]  Yeah, if a computer if let's say all of a sudden someone in India found a way to make computers for basically nothing.
[00:30:17]  Yeah, he built a machine that better computers than we have and it was in some other country and everyone can have computers for a penny.
[00:30:25]  Would you be you know I mean and of course we'd say that's that's great now everyone has computers but the industry of computers that we have here is going to be destroyed and we're going to lose jobs, but still it's better off.
[00:30:37]  We're better off.
[00:30:38]  We have to adjust.
[00:30:39]  We we always have to adjust and move.
[00:30:41]  That's you know we can't save industries because we want we want to keep the jobs.
[00:30:46]  You know saving an industry to keep the jobs is not a g is is completely a backward kind of thinking.
[00:30:51]  Okay, hold on Ozone we got somebody else on the line here.
[00:30:54]  Hello, are you are you there?
[00:30:57]  Hello.
[00:30:59]  210 well unfortunately we didn't get any call there ozone.
[00:31:11]  I thought I thought they were going to talk.
[00:31:12]  Are you there ozone?
[00:31:13]  Yeah maybe they'll call back and try again.
[00:31:15]  Yeah.
[00:31:16]  Go ahead and give us a call folks.
[00:31:17]  We're here talking about political matters like I'm saying.
[00:31:20]  I know that we're we're suffering from some turbulent times out here.
[00:31:23]  We want to hear from you want to hear your opinion.
[00:31:25]  646-652-4869.
[00:31:28]  If you just called up and for some reason we couldn't hear you or you got disconnected somehow, give us a call back.
[00:31:35]  We're talking about the economy, how we can stimulate jobs in this economy.
[00:31:39]  And according to Ozone, he's talking about tax breaks.
[00:31:42]  And I'm all for tax breaks.
[00:31:43]  I think they need to be a little bit more geared towards individuals to spawn American-made businesses.
[00:31:49]  I think that by giving an all-out flat tax break to all, I think that you're only making an economic situation conducive for those multinational corporations to utilize the United States tax system to launder their money based on revenues generated on international investments.
[00:32:09]  And I think that I don't you know, at this point, I think that we're going to need geared tax cuts to those that are actually going to somehow make some investment in production.
[00:32:21]  And I'm not saying in any specific sector in general, I'm just simply stating in America.
[00:32:27]  We just need more jobs in America and we need something that's going to stimulate that.
[00:32:30]  Obviously, we have a public education system that has failed us.
[00:32:34]  The public education system is producing a lot of non-critical thinking, non-creative individuals out here, and that's why we have a halt in the whole concept of innovation continuity.
[00:32:49]  And I think at this point, what we need to do is scrap the current public education system that we have, and we have to have a president that's going to take the greatest minds that we have currently in America, take the biggest fat cats, put them together, and have them on a mission to figure out what's going to be the next innovation that's going to set this economy going again.

=== Limits on Gun Rights (15:44) ===

[00:33:10]  And what do you think?
[00:33:12]  Yeah, well, yeah, the public education system is a failure because it's basically we put instead of relying on hundreds of thousands of private schools, we relied on one business, which is called the government, but it's still a business.
[00:33:23]  And we just said, hey, let this business do it, because we can't trust American businesses.
[00:33:27]  We can only trust the government.
[00:33:29]  And we have stuck with one business education system.
[00:33:32]  They're completely corrupt.
[00:33:33]  Eighty percent of the money goes to freaking corruption and waste.
[00:33:36]  The kids are getting a shit education.
[00:33:39]  And that's what happens when you let the government control an industry.
[00:33:44]  Well, I can agree to that.
[00:33:45]  You're not going to get any argument with me and the government running anything.
[00:33:49]  I think that anything any time the government puts their hands in anything, it turns into absolute malarkey garbage.
[00:33:56]  And we'd like for you to chime in with your particular perspective.
[00:34:00]  You know, go ahead, get on the phone, 646-652-4869.
[00:34:05]  This True Conservative Radio impromptu show having a random discussion about politics.
[00:34:09]  I think that these types of forums are very important in this day and age.
[00:34:14]  Hopefully you don't have to agree with me or Ozone or anybody else that calls up in here.
[00:34:19]  The least you could do is try to make some sort of perspective about the things that we're talking about.
[00:34:26]  Create a perspective and understand where you stand on these issues and understand that we need these politicians to talk about the economy, talk about stimulating jobs.
[00:34:35]  We need to hear these things.
[00:34:38]  Anyway, Ozone, I wanted to talk about something else.
[00:34:41]  What do you think about these liberals out here that are actually gaining resonance with trying to take our guns away from us?
[00:34:49]  What do you think about gun control?
[00:34:54]  Everyone should have a right to own a gun and have a gun because that prevents crimes.
[00:34:59]  That allows people to defend themselves.
[00:35:02]  And, you know, we see people, the criminals all have guns.
[00:35:06]  And they know that I believe if they know that there's no gun owner in the house, they're going to freaking go in there and steal it.
[00:35:14]  If they know there's a gun in the house or they don't know, they're not going to go in the house.
[00:35:19]  I agree.
[00:35:20]  I mean, I think that we need the right to bear arms, in my view.
[00:35:25]  Do you have a limit?
[00:35:26]  Do you have a limit on what gun a person should own?
[00:35:31]  Well, I don't know.
[00:35:33]  I think they definitely should have a limit.
[00:35:35]  I don't think people should have bazookas or killing machines.
[00:35:41]  But definitely people should have a right to own a gun.
[00:35:45]  I don't know about these weapons that shoot a thousand bullets in a minute.
[00:35:49]  I don't know why anyone would need the schools that they're going to be able to do.
[00:35:53]  Well, what about an AK-47?
[00:35:56]  Do you think it's within a person's legal right to have an AK-47 in the home?
[00:36:03]  I believe it is.
[00:36:04]  Thank you.
[00:36:05]  I agree, too.
[00:36:06]  I believe it, too.
[00:36:07]  I'm just asking because, you know, nowadays it seems to me that people are trying to look at you cross-eyed or something when you suggest that you believe in the constitutionally protected right of Americans to bear arms.
[00:36:20]  And I think that there shouldn't be a limit.
[00:36:21]  I think people should be if they want an AK-47, if they want a Tech 9, whatever they want, it's in the Constitution.
[00:36:27]  And I think these liberal, long-haired, tree-hugging hippies that are out here trying to push this gun control, all they're trying to do is outlaw the guns so the only people that have the guns are the outlaws.
[00:36:39]  It's just ridiculous and it's disgusting.
[00:36:41]  And I think we have another caller here, Ozone.
[00:36:43]  Let's see if they have a perspective on this.
[00:36:46]  Area Coach 608, you're on the air.
[00:36:49]  Hi, Ghost.
[00:36:51]  How you doing?
[00:36:53]  Okay.
[00:36:56]  Do you have an opinion on what we were talking about here?
[00:36:59]  Well, I guess if anybody knows my show and who I am, you know, you could probably call me a liberal of some sort.
[00:37:05]  But you know what?
[00:37:06]  Oh, is this white rose?
[00:37:09]  Yeah.
[00:37:09]  Oh, how are you doing?
[00:37:11]  I couldn't understand because we have a horrible static going on here in the show.
[00:37:14]  Oh, I hosted the brash pack tonight, and it was just horrible.
[00:37:18]  It was horrible.
[00:37:20]  But I don't know.
[00:37:22]  I'm Miss Megatricks, I guess, as far as where I'm coming from.
[00:37:25]  I'm not a political person.
[00:37:26]  I've spent all my life raising kids and finally surfaced last summer as far as all of this political stuff and really paying attention.
[00:37:36]  I'm sorry.
[00:37:37]  Maybe I should have been more awake before.
[00:37:39]  But being a single parent raising kids sometimes takes you away from what's going on nationally.
[00:37:46]  But I'm here.
[00:37:48]  I'm listening.
[00:37:48]  I'm learning.
[00:37:50]  I do believe in the Constitution.
[00:37:53]  Every one of them.
[00:37:54]  Every amendment, everything that's there.
[00:37:57]  And I don't believe I don't believe every citizen has the right to have an arsenal, but I believe they should have enough to defend themselves.
[00:38:05]  And the Now what's an arsenal in your in your definition?
[00:38:09]  No, an AK seventy, you know, for whatever it is.
[00:38:12]  The g I don't know guns, okay?
[00:38:14]  I mean, you don't need, you know, 10, 20 guns in your home.
[00:38:20]  You know, I'm l I mean I mean, I don't know.
[00:38:22]  And then you could say, well, it's my collection.
[00:38:24]  I don't know.
[00:38:24]  I I don't know where to draw the line.
[00:38:26]  I mean, i it it comes down to a constitutionally protected right.
[00:38:30]  I mean I think if somebody wants to have twenty, thirty, forty, fifty guns, I mean, okay, let me ask you a question.
[00:38:40]  Let me ask you a question.
[00:38:41]  Okay.
[00:38:42]  If somebody's got twin, you know, ten, twenty, thirty guns, do you think that they should have a background check or something to make sure that the person who has all these firearms is mentally capable to handle that kind of firepower?
[00:38:56]  Well, if there's no criminal record on anyone, I mean, if you have been committing any kind of felonies or any kind of hard misdemeanors for that matter, if you weren't involved with any kind of narcotics, I think that you're within your right, as long as you're abiding by the law, I think you're within your right to have a gun, any kind of gun, any amount of guns is possible.
[00:39:15]  And anybody who tries to tell you you're wrong for doing otherwise is wrong themselves, if you will.
[00:39:21]  Well, I'm not anybody who's got their head on the straight and can handle a collection like that.
[00:39:26]  I mean, seriously, I don't think I'd have, you know, it's not any different than if you can categorize that with anybody who has another kind of a hobby, fine.
[00:39:36]  Don't have a problem with it.
[00:39:37]  But somebody else who might have an ulterior motive that you, you know, I mean, you just need to I'm not, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody who has so many guns registers on an FBI file somewhere.
[00:39:50]  I don't know.
[00:39:51]  You know what?
[00:39:51]  It's the way it is.
[00:39:53]  And I'm sorry to say, but, you know what?
[00:39:56]  I don't know.
[00:39:57]  Big brother watches this.
[00:39:58]  You've got that much.
[00:39:59]  That's my guess.
[00:40:00]  That's my gut feeling.
[00:40:01]  Am I wrong or what?
[00:40:02]  You register guns, you have that many.
[00:40:04]  Guess what?
[00:40:04]  They're going to know.
[00:40:05]  Am I wrong or what?
[00:40:08]  I'm just coming from my own ignorant understanding.
[00:40:12]  Well, Ozone, you were about to say something, right?
[00:40:16]  Yeah, well, it's scary, you know, but if someone doesn't have a criminal record, I think that they have a right to defend themselves and they should have a gun.
[00:40:24]  But my question to you, Ghost, is how much do you think is there a limit?
[00:40:29]  Like, can you have bazookas that can shoot far, far, far away?
[00:40:34]  Or I mean, is there a limit that you have as far as the weaponry?
[00:40:38]  Because it wasn't guns like this when they wrote the Constitution, like they have now that shoot 150 seconds.
[00:40:43]  Well, you know, our forefathers understood what unalienable rights we were supposed to be accorded as man.
[00:40:52]  And one of those, they obviously extended enough effort to make it the top two, one of the top two constitutional amendments to bear arms.
[00:41:03]  And I feel that they're well, I mean, if you're talking about bazookas, I don't think those are even street legal.
[00:41:10]  But I'm talking about anything that is legal.
[00:41:14]  Anything that is legal, I mean, I think that if you can afford it, and if it's, you know, if you're not a criminal and you're not getting it on a black market and you're getting it from a licensed gunsmith or at a gun show, I think that you're within your right to accumulate however many guns you want and however much you want.
[00:41:33]  I don't think that there should be a limit.
[00:41:35]  Putting limit only limits one's freedoms in my view.
[00:41:38]  Constitutionally awarded freedoms.
[00:41:40]  Ghost, I have a question, though.
[00:41:42]  Okay.
[00:41:43]  Do you know, I mean, you can do this collecting lawfully, but don't you, I mean, I mean, I got, I had somebody do an FBI check on me, okay?
[00:41:53]  And they even came forward and they said, you know what, you have an FBI file.
[00:41:57]  And I said, what?
[00:41:58]  Little old peaceful me?
[00:42:00]  You know, I got an FBI file only because I had several name changes.
[00:42:05]  I changed my name, went to court, and I changed my name over 20 years ago.
[00:42:09]  And I had my name hyphenated.
[00:42:11]  Divorced, my husband, and a couple different names showed up on my, you know, like three or four different names showed up on my driver's license.
[00:42:21]  And just because of that, I ended up having an FBI file.
[00:42:25]  What do you think will happen to these people who register several guns?
[00:42:30]  I think that the government needs to stay out of people's businesses when it comes to people according themselves the right that has been constitutionally given to them to bear arms.
[00:42:44]  Now, I think that there is no limit.
[00:42:46]  There shouldn't be a limit.
[00:42:48]  And I think that anybody who tries to even debate the issue of there being any type of a limit, that's why I do not like Bill Clinton because of this Brady bill garbage.
[00:42:58]  He had no right to limit the United States people's rights to bear arms.
[00:43:03]  He had no right to do that.
[00:43:04]  That is an authoritarian situation that he's getting himself into when it comes to those subject matters.
[00:43:11]  And I don't believe there should be a limit.
[00:43:13]  Now, I mean, do you think there should be a limit?
[00:43:16]  Anybody.
[00:43:17]  Ozone?
[00:43:19]  Well, you know what?
[00:43:20]  With all the weaponry out there today, I'm a little concerned.
[00:43:24]  I mean, I want everyone to have a right to have everything that they need to defend themselves, to defend themselves.
[00:43:32]  But I think there's weapons out there that are designed for more than that.
[00:43:36]  I'm concerned.
[00:43:37]  I don't know enough about it, but I definitely believe that everyone should have the right to bear arms as much as it's needed to defend themselves.
[00:43:44]  But I'm not sure about the limit.
[00:43:47]  I'm not sure.
[00:43:48]  I don't know enough, but I think if I see some of these weapons, you know, you see these people, like there was one of the law, the Brady Law, it was in Long Island, New York, right near here, where a guy went on the subway and shot with a weapon that can shoot many times, I believe.
[00:44:03]  He shot, like he just shot everyone in quickly.
[00:44:05]  Everyone was down.
[00:44:06]  It was over.
[00:44:07]  Well, you know, those are isolated incidences there, Ozone.
[00:44:11]  And let me tell you, if you're stayed there, just like they do in Texas, down here in Texas, you can lawfully carry a concealed weapon anywhere you go.
[00:44:19]  And that's what I do.
[00:44:20]  I participate in my constitutionally protected right.
[00:44:24]  And you don't have to register that gun.
[00:44:27]  You can just carry it.
[00:44:28]  Is that the way Texas is?
[00:44:29]  Well, no, I have to.
[00:44:30]  I have to take a class.
[00:44:32]  I had to take a class.
[00:44:33]  I don't know.
[00:44:34]  I'm new with this.
[00:44:35]  And get qualified and get qualified and that sort of thing.
[00:44:38]  And I did.
[00:44:39]  Oh, my God.
[00:44:40]  I believe anybody who owns a firearm better go through some kind of training to know how to operate.
[00:44:45]  Absolutely.
[00:44:46]  And let me tell you something.
[00:44:48]  Crime has gone down in Texas as far as armed robberies and going into broad daylight and shooting people up in public because if that starts happening, let me tell you something.
[00:44:56]  People out here in Texas will pull out their guns and put a few holes in your body.
[00:45:01]  That's all there is to it.
[00:45:02]  And I think that had there been more people packing out there when that idiot went nut job and started shooting people for no reason.
[00:45:11]  I guarantee you you wouldn't have shot as many people had there been some people out there taking a couple of pop shots back at him.
[00:45:19]  Illinois.
[00:45:19]  What's that?
[00:45:20]  The recent one that happened up here at, I think it was Northern Illinois, close to my neck of the woods.
[00:45:28]  Were you saying Ozone?
[00:45:30]  Yeah, one of the cases the one with Feddie in Virginia Tech, the guy was walking through the halls, looking at other classes, trying to get in.
[00:45:38]  I mean, if any one person there had a gun, he could have saved 10, 20 lives, you know, because he's just one guy with a gun, but no one else has a gun.
[00:45:45]  He's free there and no one can touch him.
[00:45:48]  So when it comes to limits, how about if one man had 50 guns?
[00:45:52]  Do you think that's too much?
[00:45:56]  I'm on the fence.
[00:45:57]  I have no idea.
[00:45:58]  I'm ghost.
[00:45:59]  I apologize.
[00:46:00]  I just don't know that much about guns.
[00:46:03]  And I mean, I know that I was raised in I mean, these are legal.
[00:46:08]  I mean, he gets them through legal means.
[00:46:10]  This is a law-abiding citizen or a woman for that matter.
[00:46:13]  You know, I mean, a law-abiding citizen.
[00:46:15]  My mama my when my dad when my dad was killed in an accident, my mama had a gun because she was uh w we we had uh a country tavern.
[00:46:24]  Five kids alone out out in the country.
[00:46:26]  You damn right she had a gun.
[00:46:28]  She had the right to have it.
[00:46:30]  Now, uh, what do you think, uh, Ozone?
[00:46:33]  You think that's too much?
[00:46:34]  No, I don't it's to me really they can have a hundred guns, you know, but the the I w the what I'm concerned about is like let's say there's a gun that come out with a gun that can shoot five hundred bullets in three seconds.
[00:46:44]  I don't know.
[00:46:46]  I mean like isn't that a little you know, that's not I don't line over there.
[00:46:52]  Because five hundred bullets.
[00:46:54]  No, let me ask you.
[00:46:57]  Do you think there's any limit whatsoever?
[00:47:00]  I mean, you say a hundred.
[00:47:01]  How about five hundred?
[00:47:02]  How many guns can one?
[00:47:04]  I don't look, me personally, my forefathers made it important enough to make it the second amendment of the Constitution to make sure that our people have the ability to bear arms.
[00:47:17]  You need to read that constitutional amendment because it's very important.
[00:47:22]  And I believe that there is no limit.
[00:47:25]  There is no limit.
[00:47:27]  You can have as many guns as you see fit.
[00:47:31]  If you're a law-abiding citizen, if you haven't broken any laws, if you haven't participated in any kind of nefarious activities against our government, against society, any kind of illegal activities, I think you're within your right to have any amount of weaponry as you want.
[00:47:46]  Well, what if there's a gun that can shoot 500 bullets in three seconds, just for argument's sake?
[00:47:51]  And then all of a sudden, there's three cases where the guy went into a a high school game or whatever and boom, shot 500 people in a minute, killed 100 people.
[00:48:01]  You know, I'm just saying there's an overkill sometimes.
[00:48:03]  I think there is a point where it's overkill.
[00:48:06]  Like you can defend yourself with 10 bullets a second.
[00:48:08]  You don't need 500 bullets every three seconds.
[00:48:11]  Well, I don't think they'll ever make a gun of that nature, but if they did, I think that every law-abiding citizen that has never participated in any kind of criminal activity, that has no criminal record, should have the ability and should have the opportunity to buy those weapons.
[00:48:27]  I mean, the bottom line is that our forefathers gave us the constitutionally protected right, made it the second one.
[00:48:35]  Remember, this is not some later on add-on kind of amendment here.
[00:48:41]  This is the second amendment of the Constitution.
[00:48:43]  And I don't think there should be a gun limit.
[00:48:45]  I don't think there should be some sort of limit on what size a gun, how many per bullet per second.
[00:48:50]  It shouldn't matter.
[00:48:53]  I think it should matter a little.

=== Defending Against Terrorism (15:51) ===

[00:48:55]  I really I just because then we have a threat of terrorism coming.
[00:48:59]  Anybody here who didn't commit any crime yet can buy pick up guns that can shoot that can shoot like a lot of bullets quickly.
[00:49:07]  They shooting like crazy, like ten a second.
[00:49:10]  And they can go and buy them illegally and then boom, kill a thousand people easily.
[00:49:16]  You know, I think there's a there I think there has to be a limit.
[00:49:19]  I think there has to be some kind of limit.
[00:49:21]  But I mean, definitely there's a lot of people out here that they just don't think that anyone should have a right to own a gun at all.
[00:49:28]  I think we should focus on them because that's the real issue.
[00:49:30]  But as far as the limit goes, I really think that there is a there is a limit that there should be.
[00:49:37]  Well, you know, I I have to completely disagree.
[00:49:39]  And we see a lot of people in here in the chat room.
[00:49:42]  I beg them, give us a call right now if you disagree or agree.
[00:49:45]  646-652-4869.
[00:49:48]  But Ozone, you know, I mean, I believe in the Constitution and I think that there should not be a limit.
[00:49:55]  I mean, you know, only I mean, limiting the ability of a constitutional protected right is one step closer or a slippery slope from eliminating it altogether.
[00:50:06]  But you know that all these you know all these gangs that now use other guns, you know, if these things are are available, you know, they're going to have them as well.
[00:50:15]  They're going to end you know, that that's just going to happen.
[00:50:17]  They're going to have these these weapons.
[00:50:19]  Well, you know, these these things are obviously going to be registered and whoever had the gun is going to have to se suffer a major investigation and could be held liable because that's a very dangerous gun and it should be kept within secured confines.
[00:50:33]  I think that there should be logistics in the law to pertain to those isolated incidences because that's what they're going to be, oh zone, isolated incidences.
[00:50:43]  And they shouldn't be blown up out of proportion to define the majority.
[00:50:48]  Well, you know, I hear what you're saying.
[00:50:50]  But if you if you have an enormous personal gun collection and if you know, I mean, they're registered, terrorists are out there not just walking the streets.
[00:51:03]  They're not just in Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever.
[00:51:08]  They're on our computers.
[00:51:09]  They're in our databases.
[00:51:11]  You know, what if somebody figured out, oh, there's where the guns are?
[00:51:18]  Well, they wouldn't because I mean, you know, first of all, there is no database on gun collectors.
[00:51:24]  At least.
[00:51:25]  No, no, but I'm saying that's what I'm saying.
[00:51:27]  I'm saying each gun is registered.
[00:51:30]  And I hope to God, I mean, I know all these records are computerized.
[00:51:37]  Everything's online.
[00:51:39]  You know, the registration, who owns what is probably online.
[00:51:43]  And I don't care how many firewalls or what you've got going.
[00:51:46]  There are geniuses out there who are terrorists.
[00:51:50]  And they will find out.
[00:51:53]  The bottom line is that people are.
[00:51:54]  I'm saying what if.
[00:51:56]  Well, if they have their constitutionally protected gun in their home, they're not going to go quietly into the good night.
[00:52:03]  I guarantee you.
[00:52:04]  And that's why our forefathers accorded us that right, is just in case we have to protect ourselves against any kind of foreign intruders, we'll have the ability to do so.
[00:52:17]  You know, most countries are completely dearmed.
[00:52:21]  And what are they going to do?
[00:52:23]  What are they going to do if something happens, there's riots in the street, a foreign invader comes into their homeland or a burglar, the whole nine yards, nothing.
[00:52:33]  They can't do nothing.
[00:52:34]  They're absolutely helpless.
[00:52:35]  Well, you know what?
[00:52:36]  On the other side of this, ghost on the other side of this, yes, they won't go out quietly, but what if this person who has this magnificent gun collection is targeted secretly or quietly by I mean I'm being you know I'm just giving you a movie scenario.
[00:52:53]  Maybe I'm nuts for saying this, but you know what?
[00:52:56]  You know, maybe somebody could flip you something that would just kill you quietly or you know we have federal authorities that will track down those individuals that targeted that person specifically for their firearm collection.
[00:53:13]  I understand what I'm saying.
[00:53:15]  What's that?
[00:53:16]  Do you understand what I'm saying?
[00:53:18]  There are other ways to if you've got a gun collection that is amazing and some terrorists want to target you and find you or whatever, you know, they'll find you somewhere or the other.
[00:53:31]  And if they want them, they'll get them.
[00:53:33]  And one way or the other.
[00:53:35]  Yeah, I just think that everybody should be able to participate in their constitutionally protected rights.
[00:53:41]  I have no I don't have a problem with that.
[00:53:43]  I don't.
[00:53:44]  And if we start limiting that right, that's just a slippery slope to wither it away completely.
[00:53:49]  And I won't be damned.
[00:53:51]  Okay, go ahead.
[00:53:52]  I'm just saying the protections need to be put in place.
[00:53:55]  If you're going to own a collection like that, you need to be ready to accept the liabilities for it.
[00:54:03]  So what do you think, Ozone?
[00:54:07]  Well, the more I think about it, the more I think that there should be a limit because look, everything is supply and demand.
[00:54:12]  There should be a limit.
[00:54:14]  Let's hear this.
[00:54:14]  Go ahead, man.
[00:54:15]  I'm sorry.
[00:54:15]  Yeah.
[00:54:17]  Well, everything is supply and demand, just like drugs.
[00:54:20]  They're illegal, and drug dealers can go to jail for five, ten years for selling what they're selling.
[00:54:24]  And there's 100,000 of them doing it because people paying thousands of dollars for grass and for a little plant.
[00:54:32]  I mean, whatever people want, it will be supplied.
[00:54:34]  And I think that, you know, just like a bazooka, you say it's not street legal, but that means that the government doesn't allow it.
[00:54:40]  I mean, and some of these guns can do more damage than a bazooka.
[00:54:45]  You know, I think that there's got to be a limit to the count, the kind of mass murder weapons that are produced.
[00:54:51]  Everyone should have guns, and one can have 100 guns.
[00:54:54]  As long as it's not a gun that can shoot 100 people in ten seconds, and that's what a lot of these guns can do right now.
[00:54:59]  You mean to tell me that one can't have an assault rifle that has the ability to be a sixty round banana clip semi-automatic weapon?
[00:55:08]  Sixty rounds, and how long does it take to shoot those?
[00:55:11]  Well, I mean, you can't have a fully automatic weapon in America.
[00:55:14]  It's illegal.
[00:55:15]  So, I mean, it would be semi-automatic.
[00:55:17]  It would be as fast as you can pull your trigger finger.
[00:55:19]  I have a dumb question.
[00:55:21]  Yeah.
[00:55:23]  Why would anybody want that kind of gun in their collection?
[00:55:27]  Because it's their constitutionally protected right to do so.
[00:55:33]  I mean, that's why.
[00:55:34]  I mean, you know, anybody who buys these weapons understands that.
[00:55:39]  It's a combination.
[00:55:39]  I don't understand it.
[00:55:40]  What's the fascination with it?
[00:55:42]  Why?
[00:55:43]  Well, just in case anybody intrudes on our home or on our homeland or anything of that nature.
[00:55:53]  I mean, we're ready.
[00:55:54]  I mean, you notice that that's probably a big factor on why nobody has invaded the United States was because we arm our people.
[00:56:03]  Okay.
[00:56:04]  Well, I don't know.
[00:56:07]  I think any weapon that can be considered, you know, a gun, a gun, you know, is a weapon that can kill people.
[00:56:13]  It can kill a bunch of people.
[00:56:14]  But any weapon, I think there should be a draw line where it's a mass murder weapon where you can kill 100 people in 10 seconds with it.
[00:56:21]  Anything like that, I don't think those should be produced.
[00:56:24]  And the police, what are the police going to do if these weapons are anyone that wants it is going to get it.
[00:56:30]  I'm telling you, supply and demand rule, and they're going to want it, and they're going to get it.
[00:56:34]  It's just going to happen.
[00:56:35]  And I think that, you know, why not a bazooka?
[00:56:39]  It's a weapon.
[00:56:40]  You know, it's for self-defense.
[00:56:42]  Why is it not street legal?
[00:56:43]  Well, I agree.
[00:56:45]  I don't see why it isn't street legal, Ozone.
[00:56:48]  I'm just saying it isn't.
[00:56:50]  And I mean, we just can't get it in a gun shop and that sort of thing.
[00:56:56]  Well, your responsibility giving people responsibility, which is a Republican conservative value, giving people responsibility over themselves to choose and decide.
[00:57:04]  It's a very scary thing because a lot of people are like, oh, people will do the wrong thing.
[00:57:07]  So it's a scary thing to try to say these guns should be out there.
[00:57:11]  I mean, you have a lot of trust, I guess, in the American people that it will be for the best.
[00:57:18]  I just think there should be a limit.
[00:57:19]  But I'm scared to put these guns out.
[00:57:23]  Really?
[00:57:24]  Really?
[00:57:24]  I mean, you know that these are isolated incidences, Ozone.
[00:57:27]  And what happens is that the outlaws end up having the guns, and the people that are trying to abide themselves to this no-gun lifestyle, what ends up happening.
[00:57:36]  They end up being a victim of a situation where if they had a gun, they would have been able to ward off such an attack or such a intrusion on their personal liberty.
[00:57:47]  And I think that by arming people, law-abiding citizens, I'm not talking about people that just got off parole or that just got off sucking a crackpipe or anything of that nature.
[00:57:58]  I'm talking about real legitimate American people that have n no criminal record, that have done nothing but oblige themselves to the laws of this country and and the dedication to the American way of life.
[00:58:11]  I think these people should not have any kind of limits when it comes to their rights to bear arms.
[00:58:17]  I just don't think so.
[00:58:17]  And I think by doing so is a slippery slope from withering away the Second Amendment altogether.
[00:58:24]  Another question.
[00:58:25]  Okay.
[00:58:27]  There's a lot of I hear what you're saying, and I do believe in the Constitution, and I you know, I'm I don't know how I feel about unlimited scope as far as how much you know.
[00:58:40]  I do believe in all the guns and only criminals are going to have them.
[00:58:46]  I don't know how I'd feel about having an unlimited amount of guns in your home.
[00:58:52]  But my other question is, aside from that, is what don't you think it makes sense to put in some kind of guidelines?
[00:59:02]  I mean, if you're I mean, how many there's a lot of kids who get hurt by guns?
[00:59:09]  Well, I think that by irresponsible gun owners, don't you think there should be some type of rules or something?
[00:59:15]  Sure, sure.
[00:59:17]  If you're going to be a gun owner, be a responsible gun owner, and make some type of you know, if you're going to if your son or daughter gets shot because you didn't take care of your gun collection, there should be some type of, you know, I don't agree with that.
[00:59:39]  I think that what happened what would happen is there would be an investigation by a detective.
[00:59:44]  And if they would remember, everybody has due process.
[00:59:47]  And if they find wrongdoing or negligence on the parent's part, like, you know, the gun was just right there behind the damn sofa or something ridiculous of that nature, well, then sure, I think there should be some sort of punishment inflicted upon the parent.
[01:00:03]  But, you know, you can't blame parents.
[01:00:05]  Well, you wouldn't pass any widesweeping legislation that would require gun locks or something of that sort?
[01:00:14]  No, absolutely not.
[01:00:15]  I think that's just enforcing people to do things that, I mean, hey, if it happens and there's negligence, well, the law will deal with them accordingly.
[01:00:24]  It's just like these hate crime laws.
[01:00:27]  I mean, I don't think I don't think you can compare a gun lock law with a hate crime law.
[01:00:32]  I don't know.
[01:00:33]  No, I think that hate crime.
[01:00:37]  In my view, I think that hate crime, the whole hate crime law, in my view, basically puts you in prison just for thinking something.
[01:00:46]  I mean, you know, I think that we're at a borderline, you know, putting people in jail for thinking.
[01:00:51]  I mean, you know, now somebody can make a derogatory remark, and it can even be that derogatory.
[01:00:56]  I mean, look at Don Imus.
[01:00:58]  You know, he was, you know, with this whole hate crime hysteria.
[01:01:02]  Look, if something happens and it's a grotesque, you know, version of humanity, I think that people will be accorded the punishment ruled by the law.
[01:01:12]  And if they commit murder, whether it's hate, whether it's inspired by hate or not, they're going to die regardless.
[01:01:18]  I think that by putting in such laws like that and putting in such laws as, okay, well, if you have a gun and your child kills themselves, you should be held responsible.
[01:01:28]  I mean, I think that's just a slippery slope on putting in bureaucracy and criminal activity when it doesn't need to be.
[01:01:36]  So what I let me let me read back what you're saying.
[01:01:39]  See if I understand you, okay?
[01:01:41]  Okay.
[01:01:42]  Okay, your view is if we put in some type of legislation that requires gun locks or preventative legislation for child access to firearms in the home, you feel like that is an open door to more control and other aspects in our society.
[01:02:03]  I understand what you're saying.
[01:02:04]  Absolutely, because what will happen is it won't become gun locks.
[01:02:07]  It'll be like, okay, well, we'll give you something that makes your gun powerless until we feel it's okay for it to be fired if you're in the case of an emergency.
[01:02:19]  We don't need the government telling us when or when we can't use our guns.
[01:02:24]  I don't know.
[01:02:25]  My feeling is, yeah, maybe so, but I think some legislation is just legislation and it stops there, especially if, you know, I don't know.
[01:02:33]  I don't think it's always a slippery slope.
[01:02:35]  I think some laws are there to just plain, you know, protect, and that's it.
[01:02:40]  I don't think they lead to anything.
[01:02:41]  Maybe I'm naive, but I don't know.
[01:02:46]  That's what I feel.
[01:02:47]  Well, you know, I mean, you know, this is some pretty interesting conversations that we're having, and I urge everybody who's listening in in the chat room and elsewhere, call up.
[01:02:55]  646-652-4869 is the number to call.
[01:02:59]  We're just having some random thoughts.
[01:03:02]  I mean, we are talking about the Second Amendment, and of course, it seems to me that I'm shocking Ozone, who's a Republican, and shocking White Rose, because I believe that there should be no limits on the Second Amendment, because that's the way our forefathers intended it, no?
[01:03:17]  Well, forefathers didn't have the foresight to see the firepower one individual citizen could have.
[01:03:22]  That's my opinion.
[01:03:27]  Go ahead.
[01:03:29]  Ozone, did you hear what I just said?
[01:03:31]  Yeah.
[01:03:32]  What do you think?
[01:03:33]  What's your reaction to what I just said?
[01:03:36]  Yeah, well, people should there's got to be a limit.
[01:03:38]  I think people should be able to defend themselves.
[01:03:40]  But if you have a weapon that shoots, they can shoot and kill 30 people at a time or shoot everyone in the background, kill the guy that's attacking you and everyone in the background when you pull the trigger in three seconds.
[01:03:53]  And they didn't realize the amount of firepower that each person can have.
[01:03:59]  And the criminals, they're going to get it.
[01:04:03]  I mean, it's not isolated incidents.
[01:04:05]  Criminals are using guns every single day.
[01:04:07]  Every gang member has guns.
[01:04:09]  And every gun that are available for purchase in America will get into the hands of the criminals.
[01:04:14]  That's just the way it's going to be.
[01:04:15]  They're going to pay whatever it is.
[01:04:17]  If it's illegal, they'll orphan somebody $5,000 and they'll get it.
[01:04:21]  But you see, Ozone, I mean, when it comes to these heavy artillery weapons that you're talking about, I mean, there's a whole procedure, you know, because of the Brady bill at this point, which I think should be null and void.
[01:04:31]  I think that people should get whatever gun they feel like, whatever they see fit, just as long as they're law-abiding Americans and not criminals, not individuals that are out here committing crimes or anything.
[01:04:42]  I think that everybody should have their constitutionally protected right given to them.

=== Private Weapon Industries (02:37) ===

[01:04:46]  And if they want to get a gun, if they want to get an AK-47 with a 60-round clip or a 100-round drum, it doesn't matter.
[01:04:53]  They should be able to have the ability to do so if they're a law-abiding citizen because their forefathers accorded them that right.
[01:04:59]  Now, the debate is that, well, the forefathers didn't anticipate such heavy artillery, but at the same time, the forefathers were stupid.
[01:05:08]  They understood that we were going to evolve as far as being an industrious nation and that sort of thing.
[01:05:14]  But they always knew that we needed to accord the people the right to bear arms so that they could protect themselves from intruders both foreign and domestic.
[01:05:26]  I have a question.
[01:05:28]  Okay.
[01:05:30]  Okay, where do you draw the line behind or in front of or wherever?
[01:05:36]  What would keep a citizen from Having their own bomb, you know?
[01:05:44]  I mean, you're talking firearms, that's a firearm.
[01:05:47]  Well, you can't have I mean, there's just it's completely illegal to participate in any kind of bomb-related activities or anything that nature.
[01:05:55]  I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from because when you're talking about the market, it's illegal to participate in that activity.
[01:06:02]  So, you're just okay.
[01:06:04]  No, I'm just trying to find out what the parameters are here.
[01:06:08]  When you say firearms, when you say firearms, I want to know exactly what you mean.
[01:06:11]  Are these you talk about bazookas, you talk about all these other things?
[01:06:15]  I want to know where the line is drawn.
[01:06:18]  Well, to be completely honest with you, I think that you have private industries that create military weaponry.
[01:06:25]  You have a private industry that develops these weapons and artillery and that sort of thing that only can sell to the government.
[01:06:33]  I think that we need to lax our laws on that to a certain extent and have the ability for private individuals to be able to purchase certain pieces if they see fit.
[01:06:47]  Now, I mean, I'm just saying these things will be expensive, but if a person makes enough money and they have put aside enough revenue to buy these products and are a law-abiding citizen that believe in the rule of law and understand the American way, I don't see where there should be a limit on somebody participating in their constitutionally protected Second Amendment.
[01:07:11]  Well, I hear what you're saying, but a lot of criminals have been able to avoid a criminal record.
[01:07:18]  How do you feel about that?
[01:07:20]  Well, I'll name a couple of situations where criminals have.

=== Restricting Army Recruiting (04:45) ===

[01:07:24]  Oh, I know.
[01:07:25]  No, I'm not in that.
[01:07:26]  I'm just saying this is a scenario.
[01:07:27]  I'm sure it's out there.
[01:07:28]  I'm sure there's a way to do that.
[01:07:31]  This is just a what-if scenario, okay?
[01:07:33]  I'm not going to I'm not, I'm just, you know, I come from small town America.
[01:07:40]  I just know that the strangest things in life can happen, and this is just a matter of time.
[01:07:44]  Okay, well, what if?
[01:07:47]  Given the isolated incident that, you know, one of these weapons get into the wrong hands, the rule of law will deal with them accordingly.
[01:07:55]  And I think if they're going to kill somebody like they do in Texas, believe me, I'm in Texas, we execute more people than anyone else in the Union.
[01:08:02]  And the reason is because we want to deal with the riffraft, and we don't want to sit over here and try to kid ourselves into believing that some killer, you know, some ridiculous heathen who either raped or killed somebody is going to rehabilitate themselves and be some sort of product of society.
[01:08:18]  We put them right in the gas chamber, right in the electric chair, right in the damn, you know, whatever we do to kill these people.
[01:08:24]  That's what we do because that's the way the rule of law should work.
[01:08:27]  And that's exactly what should happen to people that misuse our Second Amendment, that are out here killing innocent people, participating in unlawful activity.
[01:08:38]  They should be put under the same constraints that those who kill in Texas do, and they should be put to death.
[01:08:52]  I've never talked about this before, Ghost.
[01:08:54]  This is opening up my mind.
[01:08:55]  Do you realize this?
[01:08:57]  Really?
[01:08:57]  I mean, yeah, I've never really talked.
[01:09:00]  I've never talked about gun control or anything like this before.
[01:09:03]  I'm telling you, I've lived a sheltered life.
[01:09:05]  I've been a peace activist for a little bit under a year.
[01:09:09]  This is all new to me.
[01:09:10]  I am not, number one, I am not anti-military.
[01:09:13]  That I want everybody to understand.
[01:09:16]  My group, myself, we are not anti-military.
[01:09:19]  I want to ask you a question.
[01:09:20]  It's a little off topic, but did you hear what happened in Berkeley recently?
[01:09:24]  Berkeley?
[01:09:25]  With Coat Pink?
[01:09:26]  With Coat Pink?
[01:09:27]  No, I didn't.
[01:09:28]  I didn't hear.
[01:09:30]  I don't know.
[01:09:31]  Let me see if I can, you know, you will get a kick out of this.
[01:09:37]  The city of Berkeley, city council, decided to pass a resolution of some type.
[01:09:41]  Almost I mean, it was like I don't know what the numbers were, but maybe one or two opposed it.
[01:09:47]  But they wanted to kick out the U. S. Marines from having a recruiting office in their city.
[01:09:55]  And yeah.
[01:09:58]  You know, I mean, I am not anti-military.
[01:10:01]  I mean, just check it out and just challenge you to have a show on this and talk about it.
[01:10:06]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:10:08]  This is real.
[01:10:09]  No, I do not, and Jess, listen to me.
[01:10:12]  I do not agree with what Code Pink did.
[01:10:15]  I do not agree with what the Berkeley City Council decided.
[01:10:21]  They are, I don't know, I guess they had another city council meeting today.
[01:10:24]  This is Tuesday.
[01:10:25]  Well, you know what?
[01:10:26]  You know what, right?
[01:10:28]  That's a pretty good debate.
[01:10:29]  You know, I mean, let's have it right now.
[01:10:31]  You know, Ozone, he's been pretty quiet, and he's a pretty good Republican.
[01:10:34]  He's a traditional Republican, even though I think he's doing the wrong thing by voting for John Turco Pikha, but that's another debate.
[01:10:41]  Can I give you the scenario that the U.S. Marine Corps was compared to, please?
[01:10:47]  Go ahead.
[01:10:48]  Okay.
[01:10:49]  The reasoning that, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but the reasoning behind the city council's resolution was we have the right to restrict a porn shop or a gun shop within so many feet of a school, we should have the right to restrict a Army recruiting office.
[01:11:10]  I mean, since when should people who protect our country be compared to a porn shop that I don't agree with?
[01:11:16]  I just, oh my God.
[01:11:19]  I completely agree with that.
[01:11:20]  And you know, but you see, this is a tricky issue when it comes to Republican principles.
[01:11:25]  This is why I'm going to pose this question to Ozone.
[01:11:28]  Now, Berkeley, which I believe they're completely wrong, I think they should be ashamed of themselves.
[01:11:33]  But they are utilizing the guise of independent local rights when compared to states' rights argument with traditional Republicans.
[01:11:44]  Now, do you think it's their right as the city of Berkeley, Ozone, for them to pull off such a resolution to ban military recruiting offices from educational institutions?
[01:11:57]  Well, absolutely not.
[01:11:59]  But the problem here is this is the problem with the education system.
[01:12:03]  Because they control education, we always have all these issues with what the school is doing.
[01:12:08]  Nobody likes what they're doing.
[01:12:09]  Should they do this?

=== Hip-Hop and Media Influence (16:06) ===

[01:12:10]  Some think this, and something that.
[01:12:11]  And we always have to have a war.
[01:12:13]  And every time, you know, half the country at least is not happy.
[01:12:18]  Because, you know, they control the public education.
[01:12:20]  They definitely should not be controlling, just stopping the Marines from recruiting.
[01:12:23]  These are military forces.
[01:12:25]  They're defending us.
[01:12:26]  They're defending all democracies around the world.
[01:12:29]  I mean, that's ridiculous.
[01:12:30]  But the problem is that they control the when they have control of public schools and soon they're going to have control of your health care.
[01:12:36]  Whole another million things that they're going to try to control and they're going to force down our throats just like parents get with the public schools today.
[01:12:43]  They don't have a choice.
[01:12:44]  Government controls it and they're going to force their liberal views.
[01:12:47]  Liberals control the schools.
[01:12:48]  If the conservatives controlled it, I wouldn't mind as much.
[01:12:51]  All right.
[01:12:52]  And we've got somebody else here wanting to chime in.
[01:12:54]  It's 646 Area Code.
[01:12:56]  You're on the air.
[01:12:57]  Yeah, hey.
[01:12:58]  My thing is, listening to the show, my thing is based on I think it's just the love for hip-hop that would gradually gratify everything and piece together the gratitude for everything that you're talking about as far as the guns of the movement because it's the positivity that we bring to the circle that make things right in this whole estrange world of you're talking about you're talking about 50 cent gangsters, pimp hoes, drinking 4-0s, that sort of thing?
[01:13:22]  Well, I don't I don't necessarily call bitches pimps and holes or anything like that, but I do somehow do believe that Not really 50 cents, you know, per se.
[01:13:32]  But I'm just saying those things and elements of hip-hop is the positive, like, common, most devoted quality.
[01:13:39]  I honestly actually take away from the negative of the gun slinging and the pin pole smacking that goes on in hip-hop world today.
[01:13:45]  Well, you know, I'm glad you brought this issue up because I believe that it's American pop culture.
[01:13:50]  I couldn't hear what he said.
[01:13:51]  He was so verbal.
[01:13:52]  Can you repeat what he just said?
[01:13:54]  He was just talking about how the, you know, the positiveness of hip-hop and its influence on our culture will make everything all right.
[01:14:03]  And I'm just paraphrasing him.
[01:14:04]  But I have to completely disagree because, first of all, hip-hop is probably the leader in the absolute downfall of our society.
[01:14:15]  I remember hip-hop very, very distinctly.
[01:14:18]  I was raised in a teenage son during the 90s when all this ridiculous mumbo jumbo Biggie Smalls Tupac busting caps garbage was going around.
[01:14:27]  Honestly, I really don't appreciate how you're honoring the memory of the great Biggie Christopher Wallace.
[01:14:33]  Christopher Wallace, sir, Christopher Wallace was a self-proclaimed drug dealer.
[01:14:38]  He served crack to his own people.
[01:14:40]  And how are you going to sit here and talk about how he's the great when he helped destruct his own community?
[01:14:46]  How can you call him the great Chris Wallace, sir?
[01:14:52]  He's really cutting out, folks.
[01:14:54]  Yeah, you're cutting in and out.
[01:14:56]  You want to talk again here?
[01:14:57]  Say it one more time.
[01:14:57]  We couldn't hear you.
[01:14:59]  I said, looking back, like a lot of shootings and things that's going on and stuff like that, I don't recall those people.
[01:15:04]  This is hip-hop and Biggie Smalls.
[01:15:07]  Well, I don't understand what I'm trying to say is that.
[01:15:11]  Can I, y'all, the guy on the side, what's his name?
[01:15:15]  Whoever goes.
[01:15:18]  I think, you know, in my own.
[01:15:21]  What I'm saying is in the Caucasian community, you can't judge the whole.
[01:15:25]  You can't, my feeling is you can't judge the whole hip-hop society.
[01:15:31]  How am I not judging?
[01:15:32]  There's something positive.
[01:15:34]  There's some positivity there.
[01:15:36]  Well, you know, there's positivity there, but it's being very much overlooked by these ridiculous characters that aren't even real.
[01:15:43]  I mean, I could acknowledge, look, gangster rap could be an outcry of the ghetto and that sort of thing.
[01:15:48]  And I'll acknowledge that.
[01:15:49]  But the bottom line is, is the majority of these artists don't even come from the garbage they rap about.
[01:15:54]  These are actors.
[01:15:56]  These are, you know, paid entertainers.
[01:15:58]  And what the liberal media is doing is they're packaging these people like 50 Cent, you know, which never saw the light of day of the hood, never really dealt any kind of drugs and did all the garbage that he says he's done.
[01:16:09]  But the liberal media will package this man up and sell him as an actual product.
[01:16:13]  And then you've got, you know, middle-class America, suburban America, listening to this Nimrod and actually thinking that this is an actual way of life.
[01:16:21]  And they're creating the ghettos in suburban America because of this idiot.
[01:16:25]  And with all due respect, sir, and I understand that you're trying to name isolated incidences in the hip-hop community via maybe tribe called Quest or whatever the case might be.
[01:16:34]  But that's a very minute part of the culture, sir.
[01:16:38]  And what's unfortunate is that hip-hop is the downfall of our society.
[01:16:42]  I think that there's been some very few contributions that have any kind of significance to human enlightenment.
[01:16:47]  For the most part, it's been absolute filth.
[01:16:50]  And for you to sit here and try to debate me on this knowledge, I don't think you have a leg to stand on, sir.
[01:16:55]  So are you trying to say Elvis, people from like the doors and stuff like that, that have done and also Elvis got Johnny Castric on drugs.
[01:17:07]  So are you trying to say they different and they brought down the whole downfall?
[01:17:10]  Because I see them.
[01:17:11]  Y'all see them as icons.
[01:17:12]  It's the same thing.
[01:17:14]  Well, you know, the big difference, if you want to talk about the doors.
[01:17:18]  Elvis said, all the nigga could do for me is shine my shoes.
[01:17:20]  So is that like the same thing?
[01:17:21]  I never heard the 50 Cent said all the white person could do for me is wash my car.
[01:17:25]  I never like, you know, clear that up for me, sir.
[01:17:28]  Well, you know, let's not go back into a racial turbulent time.
[01:17:31]  I mean, obviously there were some...
[01:17:33]  No, it doesn't have nothing to do with a racial turbulent time.
[01:17:35]  Yeah.
[01:17:35]  Yeah, well, you're bringing in race.
[01:17:37]  I'm not bringing in race.
[01:17:38]  I'm talking about music as an influence.
[01:17:40]  You guys are talking about music as an influence.
[01:17:43]  Nothing to do with race or whatever.
[01:17:47]  How has music influenced our society?
[01:17:49]  That's what I think the issue is here.
[01:17:51]  Well, I mean, you referred to hip-hop as being mumbo-jumbo and stuff like that.
[01:17:57]  I don't know.
[01:17:57]  I think it's a horrible packaged product made by the liberal media to pacify our children into being absolute imbeciles.
[01:18:06]  I mean, I think it's a true agenda.
[01:18:07]  When Pepsi and McDonald's and all these other things sponsor these different events and stuff like that, it's the same thing for those a billion dollars.
[01:18:17]  I think what they're doing is pandering to their demographic that usually shops at their high or at their retail or fast food shops.
[01:18:26]  I think that's what they're doing.
[01:18:27]  Go ahead.
[01:18:28]  Respectfully, question.
[01:18:31]  Okay, you have this opinion about hip-hop.
[01:18:34]  Do you think there are other musical influences in this country that are just as or get or are bad?
[01:18:43]  I think that, you know, what do you think about what do you think about the music industry?
[01:18:46]  What are we doing?
[01:18:47]  I think that the music industry has lost its edge and creativity.
[01:18:50]  I think that what you have is a bunch of uniform type genres.
[01:18:54]  If you look on television today, what you have here is if you don't have these big, want-to-be packaged 50-cent, you know, bunch of cap in your ass, pimping hose type of product, if you don't have that, you have this new day and age rock star that is no longer looking like a male anymore.
[01:19:12]  You know, males aren't looking like males, and females aren't looking like females anymore.
[01:19:17]  I mean, we're thinking about American Idol as a little offside.
[01:19:21]  Yeah, I wanted to talk about that.
[01:19:23]  I wanted to talk about how in American Idol, did you notice the amount of fruit bowls, the amount of absolute, you know, looking like they just popped out of the anal passage of Richard Simmons?
[01:19:33]  I mean, did you see this garbage on American Idol?
[01:19:36]  I mean, I don't even watch this.
[01:19:39]  I've watched last season, but I have not even tuned in because it's, I mean, I've watched several seasons.
[01:19:46]  The first one I won, the first couple I watched religiously.
[01:19:49]  When I saw Aiken get voted in, I thought he was wonderful, but I don't know.
[01:19:54]  I think it's getting watered down.
[01:19:56]  I have not watched.
[01:19:58]  I mean, but you have to understand.
[01:20:01]  Do you hear me, guys?
[01:20:01]  I mean, do you hear me?
[01:20:03]  It's getting streamlined.
[01:20:04]  They're trying to make it more enjoyable, more entertaining.
[01:20:07]  And in the process, they're taking away from the originality of the first thought that I've been doing.
[01:20:12]  And they're indirectly turning our American youth into a bunch of fruity-ass butt lovers.
[01:20:19]  I mean, did you see the amount of fruits out here that were on American Idol?
[01:20:24]  This is what I'm talking about.
[01:20:25]  This is the line that's happening in entertainment.
[01:20:27]  You're either a little fruity ass that looks like a chick out here as a young male, or you're selling yourself out to this wannabe bitchy, blonde-headed Eminem, wannabe gangster rapper garbage.
[01:20:40]  There's no in-between anymore.
[01:20:41]  And this is what I'm talking about.
[01:20:42]  The media has put it this way.
[01:20:44]  So can I ask you, so what about people like Mr. Cloudy?
[01:20:47]  Mike Cool.
[01:20:48]  You're garbled up.
[01:20:49]  I don't know what your name is.
[01:20:51]  You just cut in and out.
[01:20:52]  You just cut in and out.
[01:20:53]  You all are.
[01:20:54]  The blob talk is broke talk tonight.
[01:20:57]  Sorry.
[01:20:57]  I don't hear you very clearly.
[01:20:58]  Can you hear me now?
[01:20:59]  Yeah, go ahead.
[01:21:00]  Okay, what I'm talking about is the artists that are coming out right now are being chosen by the people because the music industry is just taking the downfall.
[01:21:09]  So people, so things like MySpace and YouTube, these are people, the fans, the regular people are out there picking the music that they want to hand.
[01:21:18]  And these are the people that the music industry is investing in to make money and make music in.
[01:21:23]  But, sir, sir, look, look, I want to tell you.
[01:21:27]  It's not the corporations anymore.
[01:21:30]  That's because the people are idiots, sir.
[01:21:32]  And let me explain why, okay?
[01:21:34]  I can understand jazz, you know, Duke Ellington, you know, these people that had true significance into the enlightenment of music.
[01:21:43]  I mean, that changed eras.
[01:21:45]  You know, that they're going down in musical appreciation history books.
[01:21:49]  You know, what you have here, sir, is an exploitation of a small segment of society, and they've made it into an actual mainstream culture.
[01:21:57]  I mean, they actually, I mean, and you have a whole segment of people that actually believe that, you know, wearing your pants below your anus gives you some sort of cool significance.
[01:22:07]  Can I say that?
[01:22:08]  Do you know what that means, sir?
[01:22:10]  Do you know where the whole sagging of the pants is derived from, sir?
[01:22:13]  I know that that comes from prison.
[01:22:15]  It comes from prison.
[01:22:16]  You know what that means when you have your pants low like that?
[01:22:19]  That means you're an easy piece of ass for any big bubba that wants to go out there and give you a big hard one up the poop shoot.
[01:22:25]  That's what that means.
[01:22:26]  So, what do you think about things like Eminem, the white rapper show, Step Up, Step Up To?
[01:22:34]  These are movies where they have white people trying to get them during the hip-hop culture.
[01:22:40]  I think it's absolutely horrible.
[01:22:42]  I mean, because first of all, I'll tell you why it's horrible.
[01:22:44]  Because, first of all, these white pieces of redneck trash, you know, especially MA.
[01:22:49]  Are you aware that most of the record sales from hip-hop is from white suburban people?
[01:22:54]  I understand this, sir, and this is what I'm saying.
[01:22:56]  It's this liberal media that has goofed our children, that has goofed our children via the, you know, Hollywood.
[01:23:02]  You have Hollywood intertwined with the music industry, you have the movie industry intertwined with Hollywood and video games, so it's all intertwined together.
[01:23:09]  Okay, and what they're doing is they're selling our children this absolute malarkey, and this is why they actually believe that this is an actual culture.
[01:23:16]  There is no culture, it's ridiculous mumbo-jumbo that's been sold to us by corporate America.
[01:23:21]  It's marketing and marketing, gear.
[01:23:23]  It's marketing gear.
[01:23:24]  But it's a billion dollars.
[01:23:26]  Are you aware that this conversation that you're having, when you was young, the music that you listened to, your parents was telling that to somebody else, and their parents were telling them that from Swing to RB to Lil Richard and all these other people came out?
[01:23:40]  Every form of music that came out, every older generation had a problem with it saying the same thing.
[01:23:45]  You don't understand.
[01:23:46]  At least that music had substance to it, sir.
[01:23:49]  I mean, you have to understand there is no substance to hip-hop.
[01:23:52]  And what is it?
[01:23:53]  I'm a PIMP.
[01:23:55]  I'm pimping hoes.
[01:23:56]  I'm busting calves.
[01:23:57]  I'm twisting.
[01:24:00]  One of Garth Brooks selling songs.
[01:24:03]  What's that?
[01:24:04]  One of Garth Brooks, Billis' biggest, one of his biggest-selling songs is a song that he did with Nelly.
[01:24:09]  Lincoln Park sold more records doing the mashup album with Jay-Z.
[01:24:13]  I mean, look at what's going on here.
[01:24:16]  Listen, the problem is, the problem with hip-hop is a lot.
[01:24:18]  I've heard good songs that preaching peace and harmony, and they're wonderful, inspiring.
[01:24:23]  But most of hip-hop is basically showing kids who treat these singers as their idols, unlike any adult.
[01:24:30]  They're teaching the entire youth that doing drugs is okay.
[01:24:34]  Having sex is okay.
[01:24:35]  Getting married, divorced, married, divorced three times, having a kid and leaving them is okay.
[01:24:39]  Everyone, Britney Spears, Elvis, that doing drugs is okay.
[01:24:42]  They see these idols, and they're all, they say you've got to go to prison to get your reputation.
[01:24:46]  So the kids are listening to this.
[01:24:48]  You've got to sell drugs.
[01:24:49]  You can do drugs and you can still live in a big house on cribs.
[01:24:52]  And that's the problem.
[01:24:54]  I have a question.
[01:24:55]  I want to interrupt you.
[01:24:56]  I have a question now.
[01:24:57]  And Ghoshi, listen, please.
[01:24:59]  Are you hearing me?
[01:25:00]  I've got a real problem with sound here, but I have a question.
[01:25:04]  You're talking about the Constitution here, okay?
[01:25:08]  Where does the Constitution come in when the last caller, I'm sorry I didn't catch your name, but if you're broadcasting all these, this is okay to do all this crazy stuff, is that okay?
[01:25:20]  Can we put that over the air and let it influence our youth, or are we going to step up and say they have the right to say that because of the amendment or the freedom of speech?
[01:25:34]  Well, no, you see, you know what hip-hop is doing.
[01:25:37]  No, you know what hip-hop is doing.
[01:25:39]  I don't care if it's hip-hop.
[01:25:41]  I don't care if it's Wow Richie.
[01:25:42]  I don't care if it's the Beatles.
[01:25:43]  Where do you draw the line when they're singing?
[01:25:46]  Well, hip-hop is a line in hip-hop because it's the equivalent of yelling fire in the theater.
[01:25:53]  These are the things.
[01:25:55]  How do you divide hip-hop from the rest of the industry?
[01:25:57]  No, let me explain.
[01:25:59]  Let me explain.
[01:26:00]  Hold on, let me explain what I'm saying here.
[01:26:02]  What you have here is you have corporations that are selling products like 50 Cent and these fake gangsters.
[01:26:08]  These are not real people, but they're marketing them as if they really got shot five times.
[01:26:13]  They're marketing them as if they were really drug dealers and kingpins, wherever the hell they were at.
[01:26:18]  They're marketing them as a real thing, and they're not.
[01:26:21]  They're fake.
[01:26:21]  And that, by very definition, is yelling fire in the theater.
[01:26:26]  These guys are advocating killing.
[01:26:28]  They're advocating going out and busting caps on each other, dealing drugs, backstabbing people for the sake of the film.
[01:26:34]  What they're going to say no matter what is our freedom of speech to be able to say whatever we want them.
[01:26:39]  Right, well, me personally, I never heard a hip-hop song that said it's cool to go to jail, it's cool to backstab your man, and it's cool to fuck your guy's girlfriend.
[01:26:50]  I've heard a lot of people.
[01:26:52]  Yeah, let me tell you something.
[01:26:54]  Why don't you listen a little bit of the chronic album?
[01:26:57]  Oh, that'll show you a little something.
[01:26:59]  I listen to Chronic.
[01:27:00]  I got Chronic and Chronic 2002.
[01:27:03]  I got both of them.
[01:27:05]  That's what I'm saying, sir.
[01:27:08]  All that culture induces is, you know, look, let me ask you a personal question, sir.
[01:27:13]  And I don't mean to say this to be insulting.
[01:27:15]  How old are you?
[01:27:16]  I'm 24.
[01:27:17]  You're 24?
[01:27:18]  Do you have any children?
[01:27:20]  No.
[01:27:21]  You have no children?
[01:27:22]  No.
[01:27:23]  All right.
[01:27:24]  Are you married?
[01:27:25]  No.
[01:27:26]  Okay, do you smoke marijuana?
[01:27:28]  No.
[01:27:33]  You don't have to lie, sir.
[01:27:35]  If you're talking on the reefer.
[01:27:37]  This is anonymous.
[01:27:37]  It's not the truth.
[01:27:39]  No, sir.
[01:27:39]  Not at all.
[01:27:40]  Yeah, I'm not 5-0 here.
[01:27:44]  You can be smoking on it, though.
[01:27:46]  You're not being whatever cap.
[01:27:48]  No, no, no.
[01:27:50]  No, I'm telling you the truth.
[01:27:52]  I mean, if you're puffing on the magic dragon, just tell us.
[01:27:56]  I just want to know.
[01:27:59]  No, I'm telling you the truth.
[01:28:01]  I don't drink.
[01:28:01]  I don't smoke.
[01:28:02]  Well, then you're an isolated incident.
[01:28:04]  You're an isolated incident, sir, because the majority of the people that are induced into this demographic, they're all, you know, by the age of 24, 25, they all have at least three children.
[01:28:15]  Okay?

=== Rappers and Infamous Names (15:28) ===

[01:28:16]  They're out here on subsidy programs.
[01:28:18]  You even have welfare carols.
[01:28:22]  Have you ever heard of Bone Thugs in Harmony, sir?
[01:28:24]  I'm sure you have.
[01:28:27]  Have you ever heard of First of the Month?
[01:28:28]  You ever heard that song?
[01:28:29]  Yeah, I'm familiar with that.
[01:28:31]  You know what?
[01:28:32]  But did you hear I Try So Hard?
[01:28:34]  Like, that joint is like, I'm trying because I want to get out of that.
[01:28:38]  And this is what I'm saying.
[01:28:39]  Like, see, the same way, like, these artists that are saying 50 Cent can say, I get money, he can still turn around and do a song called Many Men.
[01:28:47]  I don't want a guy telling something who has videos with girls dancing half-naked.
[01:28:54]  I don't need this guy to tell my kid that try hard, you know, because even with parents, it's not what they say.
[01:29:01]  Even whatever the song says, they're watching the celebrities, and they're going to do what they do.
[01:29:05]  Kids do what parents do.
[01:29:07]  They don't do what the parents say.
[01:29:08]  And the same with celebrities.
[01:29:09]  They see Britney Spears' sister getting pregnant, they're going to say, hey, look, she can do it.
[01:29:13]  I can do it.
[01:29:15]  It goes back to what the lady just said.
[01:29:17]  The question the lady just said, what the lady just said is, how do we stop this?
[01:29:24]  The parents have to step up and stop letting the music and stop letting the TV and stop letting the radio or whatever.
[01:29:30]  You know what, I raised a couple teenagers, and I'm telling you, I stepped on them, and I did.
[01:29:36]  I mean, and they they'll tell you here.
[01:29:38]  Right, right.
[01:29:40]  I rose all over them like, you know, grass on a lawn.
[01:29:44]  I made sure of what, you know, as much as I could.
[01:29:47]  I made sure of everything that came into the into their lives.
[01:29:51]  But there is a limit to what you can influence.
[01:29:55]  After a point, they make their own decisions.
[01:29:57]  And it does before they turn eighteen, dear.
[01:30:02]  Let me explain something to you.
[01:30:03]  I had the unfortunate incident of having to participate in this whole hip-hop garbage.
[01:30:09]  Back in the nineties, I raised a son.
[01:30:12]  I have a couple of sons, but one of them in particular got so anesthesized with this gangster rap garbage.
[01:30:18]  He started dressing up like a gangster, thought he was some bad hard ass.
[01:30:23]  When he knew damn well, he knew damn well he wasn't raised in that environment.
[01:30:27]  But because he was listening to the damn chronic album, because he was out here listening to Snoop Dogg, because he was out here thinking he had his mind on his money and his money on his mind, all this garbage, it got me a little upset.
[01:30:40]  So what did I do?
[01:30:42]  I took all those damn records.
[01:30:43]  I started listening to the absolute filth that's on them.
[01:30:47]  I just completely took them away, and then I took my son out, drug him out of the damn house in a damn headline, put him in the car, took him to the most desolate, impoverished part of town that I could find, dumped him off on the corner right there and said, hey, let me see how gangster you are out here in these neighborhoods.
[01:31:05]  And let me tell you, after spending the day out there talking to all kinds of drug addicts, prostitutes, drug dealers, and all kinds of other undesirables, he changed his little gangster tune right away.
[01:31:16]  And let me tell you something.
[01:31:18]  He gave him an eighth dose of reality, which was nice.
[01:31:23]  I come from the Midwest.
[01:31:25]  We don't have that opportunity.
[01:31:27]  We'd have to drive a couple hundred miles to do that.
[01:31:29]  Right.
[01:31:29]  But my thing is this.
[01:31:31]  You said that it was the way he dressed and he had a John Gotti was a gangster, a killer.
[01:31:35]  That nigga, he wore a suit.
[01:31:37]  So if your son put on the suit, it would still be a gangster.
[01:31:40]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:31:40]  Like, you going off the way he dressed and how he looked.
[01:31:43]  Well, you know, the difference between John Gotti and some stupid block hustling street thug is the fact that John Gotti thought as a corporation, at least this man was wrong about it.
[01:31:55]  At least he was a Republican about it.
[01:31:57]  Ghosts, you're breaking up.
[01:31:58]  Try it again.
[01:31:59]  At least he was a Republican about it and wasn't out here making welfare carols.
[01:32:05]  It's the first of the month.
[01:32:07]  I mean, have you ever heard this song?
[01:32:08]  Have you heard this song?
[01:32:09]  You people have you need to download it.
[01:32:11]  It's called First of the Month by Bone Thugs and Harmony.
[01:32:14]  It is a welfare carol.
[01:32:16]  These people are singing about the first of the month government subsidy check.
[01:32:21]  And then the whole rap, the whole rap song is about how they're going to buy marijuana and four O's, which is 40-ounce bottles of malt liquor.
[01:32:31]  This is what they talk about, and this is the kind of mentality we're perpetuating.
[01:32:35]  And, sir, with all due respect, I think that you need to grow up out of that particular lifestyle, and you need to understand that that's not going to get you anywhere, sir.
[01:32:44]  Can I say something personal?
[01:32:46]  I have a personal interjection.
[01:32:49]  Go ahead.
[01:32:50]  Oh, you know, as a parent, I give you kudos for taking a hold of the situation.
[01:32:56]  You know, I don't we may disagree on a whole lot of stuff, but I think what you did was really open up your son's eyes to the reality of what life is.
[01:33:05]  And I just want to say, hey, here's a real parent.
[01:33:09]  You know, might not agree with you on some stuff, but you uh gave him a real good dose of uh reality.
[01:33:20]  My question is, did it last?
[01:33:22]  Where is he now?
[01:33:23]  Oh, are you kidding me?
[01:33:24]  He went to college, you know.
[01:33:25]  I mean, he's a great productive member of society at this point, has a family.
[01:33:30]  So, hip-hop.
[01:33:31]  So, so so when is when does the when is it the parent that steps in and says, Okay, wait a minute, hip-hop is raising my kid, or this is influencing my kid.
[01:33:41]  It doesn't necessarily have to be hip-hop.
[01:33:44]  It could be anything.
[01:33:45]  It could be a third-party influence.
[01:33:47]  It could be a third hold on a second.
[01:33:50]  Hold on.
[01:33:54]  And I said that.
[01:33:55]  That was because Starface and the Godfather, these people wear suits, and they do the same thing as worse than rappers, if quote unquote, as you say, and they're actors.
[01:34:05]  But you're saying that's different because he was a Republican from craziness.
[01:34:10]  Well, no, the thing about it, the thing about John Gotti.
[01:34:14]  One at a time, please.
[01:34:15]  I can't hear you.
[01:34:16]  The thing about John Gotti is that, first of all, he was a criminal.
[01:34:21]  The justice system dealt with him that dealt with him accordingly.
[01:34:25]  And he believed in a family.
[01:34:27]  You know, he wasn't out here promoting deviant activity.
[01:34:29]  You know, let me go ahead and bust a few hoes and have four or five baby mamas and all this garbage.
[01:34:37]  He wasn't, he doesn't promote that stuff.
[01:34:39]  As a matter of fact, he had one wife.
[01:34:41]  He had one family.
[01:34:43]  I mean, you need to understand.
[01:34:47]  He took care of his family.
[01:34:48]  That's what you think.
[01:34:49]  You can't be defending Gotti.
[01:34:51]  Gotti was a bad woman.
[01:34:55]  Starface is a character from a movie.
[01:34:57]  So was the guy who was a kid.
[01:34:58]  I'm not saying, look, I'm not saying people should act like John Gotti.
[01:35:01]  And not only that, John Gotti wasn't being sold to children.
[01:35:04]  John Gotti was just a pop culture icon.
[01:35:07]  He made a TV show of his kids.
[01:35:09]  You know what I mean?
[01:35:09]  That's explaining the Gotti's name.
[01:35:12]  He is a pop culture icon.
[01:35:14]  He is not some rapper.
[01:35:16]  He's not somebody being sold as a legitimate gangster when he knows he's not.
[01:35:22]  How can you say he's a pop icon, though?
[01:35:24]  I mean, this is a mafia boy.
[01:35:25]  Why is he a pop icon?
[01:35:27]  Why do kids grow up and say, oh, who's that?
[01:35:29]  It's unfortunate, oh, so I know.
[01:35:31]  I mean, but we have infamous people.
[01:35:33]  Lucky Luciano, Gambino, Tony Nunav, Sam Giancana.
[01:35:37]  I mean, you know, these people are a part of our American history.
[01:35:40]  We just have to face up to it.
[01:35:42]  And then I have one.
[01:35:44]  Stop for a second.
[01:35:44]  You are really breaking up and you're talking over each other.
[01:35:48]  Go say what you said again, slower and louder, because VPR is broke talk tonight.
[01:35:54]  I cannot understand what you're saying.
[01:35:56]  I'm just saying that, look, the bottom line is, I understand that Gotti was a killer.
[01:36:00]  He was a thug.
[01:36:00]  You know, he was a despicable human being.
[01:36:02]  But the bottom line is he became a pop culture icon, unfortunately, just like every other mobster has.
[01:36:08]  Lucky Luciano, Vincent Gambino, Fat Tony Tuna, Sam Giancana.
[01:36:16]  I mean, criminals become pop culture.
[01:36:20]  Because unfortunately, they dealt in a black market that they dominated.
[01:36:25]  And when people dominate black markets, they become very wealthy people.
[01:36:28]  And then we become very wealthy people.
[01:36:29]  They start asserting themselves in the legitimate world.
[01:36:32]  That's why you got these people as popular icons.
[01:36:38]  The same media that glorified them, the same media that glorified the Chronic album, the same media that glorified 50 Cent and all these other rappers that you still talk about bitches and hoes.
[01:36:49]  It was the same media.
[01:36:50]  Yeah, but John Gotti, John Gotti didn't make his money by selling, you know, John Gotti records.
[01:36:56]  Nobody wanted to preach this nigga.
[01:36:57]  Nobody wanted to preach his funeral.
[01:36:59]  But he was at every newspaper.
[01:37:02]  Listen, he was come on.
[01:37:04]  They made two documentaries, a movie.
[01:37:07]  His kids, like, I'm not sure what he's doing.
[01:37:09]  He did not look look, he didn't personally benefit by selling any kind of John Gotti products.
[01:37:13]  Okay, he was a criminalmind.
[01:37:17]  He was a criminal mastermind, and unfortunately, he had the monopoly on certain criminal enterprises in New York, and that's why he went down as an infamous figure.
[01:37:27]  It's unfortunate.
[01:37:27]  I don't believe he should.
[01:37:29]  But, you know, to compare him with these ridiculous fake gangster rappers, and they're fake.
[01:37:34]  All of them are fake.
[01:37:35]  None of them have lived anything that they rap about.
[01:37:37]  So as a result, by very definition, they are yelling fire in a theater by yelling such malarkey that they know they've never participated in, but that are encouraging youth to do so.
[01:37:48]  I don't think it's matter of that.
[01:37:49]  I don't think it's a matter of whether I lost my train of thought.
[01:37:54]  What were we just saying?
[01:37:56]  So basically, what you're saying is, when you look at these legitimate criminal, it could be hip-hop making pretend they are.
[01:38:11]  Is that what you're saying?
[01:38:12]  No.
[01:38:12]  It doesn't matter if they're pretend or not.
[01:38:14]  It doesn't matter if they're real gangsters or not.
[01:38:16]  They're all bad.
[01:38:16]  I don't care either.
[01:38:17]  If they're real, they're real or not real.
[01:38:19]  They shouldn't be diminished.
[01:38:22]  But there's something between whether they black or they white, they purple, orange, or green.
[01:38:29]  Something in the upbringing, something in the environment that made them choose to go that route.
[01:38:35]  You get what I'm saying?
[01:38:38]  They're misrepresenting themselves, sir, and to make a whole cultural hip-hop movement based on a bunch of false characters.
[01:38:45]  No, but see, again, not everybody is like that.
[01:38:49]  For example, if you look at, you look at, they say you don't snitch, right, when you're in the mob.
[01:38:55]  You don't snitch or whatever.
[01:38:59]  Every time one of these dudes ends up getting it, there's something going on.
[01:39:01]  Every time somebody gets to something, somebody always snitches.
[01:39:04]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:39:05]  So, see, there's people that's in it that's not even made, that's not even made for what they're into.
[01:39:09]  So I understand what you're saying as far as like, yes, there are some rappers that find them that are active and they do it just to get in the game or whatever the situation is.
[01:39:17]  But on the other end, there's still other people in other organizations and other crimes that actually do that shit.
[01:39:23]  That's not built for that neither.
[01:39:24]  So for you to actually handpick and say all rappers or rap.
[01:39:28]  I think that all rappers, sir, all rappers are a bunch of fake.
[01:39:31]  Do you know who Curtis Jackson is?
[01:39:33]  Curtis Jackson is a fake suburban American kid.
[01:39:37]  You're sticking to 50 Cent, like how y'all saying I was sticking to John Gotti.
[01:39:43]  50 Cent isn't the only rapper.
[01:39:45]  50 Cent is the most successful rapper of all time, sir.
[01:39:48]  No, he's not.
[01:39:49]  Yes, he is.
[01:39:50]  He's the most successful record seller of all time.
[01:39:54]  He's sold 25, 30 million records already.
[01:39:58]  And he's only produced, and he's only produced three albums.
[01:40:01]  Don't school me on music, son.
[01:40:03]  I'm in the business of music, so don't sit here and try to school me on record sales.
[01:40:08]  He has not sold more records than Jay-Z.
[01:40:11]  Well, the only reason Jay-Z has so many records is because he's produced him for a longer period of time.
[01:40:17]  You know, 50 Cent came on the scene in 2001.
[01:40:19]  It's 2008.
[01:40:20]  The man sold about 30, 40 million records.
[01:40:22]  It's unbelievable.
[01:40:26]  Hello?
[01:40:28]  Can you hear me?
[01:40:28]  Hello?
[01:40:29]  Yeah, go ahead.
[01:40:29]  Go ahead, John.
[01:40:31]  Do you think all his money cut off?
[01:40:33]  Can you hear me?
[01:40:34]  Yeah, go ahead.
[01:40:35]  Do you think all his money comes from selling records?
[01:40:37]  No, all his money comes from not only selling records, but to sell his likeness, which is this ridiculous gangster character, 50 Cent, which he happened to have ripped off that little nickname from some real criminal narcotics dealer in Brooklyn, New York.
[01:40:54]  And you see, the liberal media is actually trying to sell this man as a legitimate person that's trying to give an artistic expression to the ghetto when he knows damn well he's never seen the ghetto.
[01:41:05]  So how about him?
[01:41:06]  No, he's from the projects.
[01:41:10]  He lived in the house, same house that we saw the movie.
[01:41:13]  So, but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is.
[01:41:15]  No, no, no, no.
[01:41:16]  That's.
[01:41:16]  That movie, that movie was a farce, just like 8 Mile was a farce.
[01:41:19]  You see, this is what you people don't understand.
[01:41:21]  Just because these people went into a movie like Eminem with 8 Mile and then Dumbass 50 Cent with Get Rich or Die Trying, those were not their biographies.
[01:41:30]  That was just a movie.
[01:41:31]  You're right.
[01:41:32]  You're right.
[01:41:32]  But it's 75 to 80%.
[01:41:35]  They tell you 75 to 80%.
[01:41:37]  But I'm jumping off the topic.
[01:41:39]  I'm jumping off the subject that I was going.
[01:41:40]  Didn't make all his money.
[01:41:42]  You're cutting in and out again.
[01:41:43]  You're cutting in and out.
[01:41:44]  Go ahead.
[01:41:45]  He didn't sell all his money from film records.
[01:41:48]  He did a couple of films.
[01:41:49]  He did his vitamin Water.
[01:41:52]  He did a couple of MTV, a couple of MTV ventures.
[01:41:55]  It was a lot.
[01:41:56]  Exactly.
[01:41:56]  All geared towards younger generations because they actually believe that this idiot is a real gangster.
[01:42:02]  They got shot five times.
[01:42:04]  He's a farce.
[01:42:05]  He's a bunch of malarkey, and that's my qualms with hip-hop.
[01:42:08]  White people are fake.
[01:42:09]  Why would Pepsi and Vitamin Water do something to do business with somebody?
[01:42:13]  They sell that five times.
[01:42:14]  It would jeopardize.
[01:42:15]  Because they see the amount of albums that he's selling, and then obviously he's selling albums because some idiots in this world actually believe he's a real gangster.
[01:42:24]  I mean, that's the reason that's the only reason why people buy gangster albums because, first of all, the beats are pretty cheap.
[01:42:31]  I mean, you know, it's pretty simplistic.
[01:42:32]  I mean, anybody with fruity loops or a multi-track system and a couple of instruments can become a rap producer.
[01:42:39]  So the bottom line is you are selling an image, and these images that these record companies are selling are a bunch of fakes.
[01:42:46]  And anybody who buys them as any kind of legitimate source of outcry of the ghetto probably would buy oceanfront property in Danforth, Arizona.
[01:42:57]  Common sense is not doing commercial for the Cadillac for new Cadillac truck.
[01:43:02]  What do you think about that?
[01:43:03]  That is a rap.
[01:43:05]  Thank God he ain't killing nobody.
[01:43:06]  He's Cadillac.
[01:43:07]  Okay, I went ahead.
[01:43:08]  Is that still stopping spinning?
[01:43:12]  How do you feel about that?
[01:43:13]  Well, I don't think nothing of it.
[01:43:15]  I think White Rose has something to say, and then Ozone, and then we'll get back to 50 Cent over here.
[01:43:23]  I'm trying to be respectful.
[01:43:25]  You are in the middle of a hot heated argument, and when I want to intercede, all I can do is say questions.
[01:43:30]  So I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I don't know.
[01:43:31]  Oh, don't worry about it.
[01:43:33]  Yeah, yeah, okay.
[01:43:35]  Okay, my question is, this might be high in the sky, pallianish thought, but you know what?

=== Bulletproofing Relationships (06:32) ===

[01:43:44]  If we took, I mean, who knows?
[01:43:47]  Let's level the playing field and let's take the issue of money out of it.
[01:43:51]  You're not going to make any money.
[01:43:52]  You just, you know, if you want to say something, say it.
[01:43:54]  But you know what?
[01:43:56]  You're not going to make millions.
[01:43:58]  Who is going to disappear?
[01:43:59]  Who is really going to be out there?
[01:44:02]  My guess is the people who are real.
[01:44:04]  Right.
[01:44:05]  I agree with you.
[01:44:06]  Does that make any sense, Ghost?
[01:44:08]  Yeah, well, of course, but unfortunately, all the people that are selling all these hip-hop records are fake.
[01:44:13]  And that's my argument.
[01:44:15]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:44:16]  I mean, I'm telling you, yeah, a lot of it is just friggin' money.
[01:44:22]  Ice Cube was a gangster rapper straight from Compton.
[01:44:26]  Really did what he did.
[01:44:27]  Now he's a movie producer.
[01:44:30]  You know why Tyler Perry changed the gangster?
[01:44:32]  And what are these people doing with their money?
[01:44:33]  Are they taking it back to the real ones?
[01:44:36]  Even the real ones.
[01:44:37]  Of course they, of course, are they going back to their neighborhoods?
[01:44:39]  Are they bettering?
[01:44:40]  No, that's not true.
[01:44:43]  They're out there living in Bel Air.
[01:44:46]  They're not helping their neighborhoods.
[01:44:48]  They're not.
[01:44:49]  Someone like Tyler Perry.
[01:44:51]  The reason why Tyler Perry, Why Did I Get Married, did over $250 million the first weekend?
[01:44:58]  That's Amos Schwashnick Terminator numbers.
[01:45:00]  Why?
[01:45:01]  Because he let it be known that he could put out a black movie without no cursing, sex thugs, and people still go out, see it and be entertained.
[01:45:10]  All genres of music.
[01:45:11]  Explain that.
[01:45:12]  He put rappers and singers and this shit.
[01:45:14]  I'm listening.
[01:45:15]  Well, that's that's what we're looking for, is some clean parents renting the psychology raise their kids and don't let the music and the media, whether it's MTV, VH1, be a TV one, raise their kids.
[01:45:30]  Well, uh, oh, ozone, you've been kind of quiet.
[01:45:33]  You have to have something to say about this?
[01:45:35]  Yeah, I think, well, basically, this the whole discussion is a lot of semantics, but the bottom line is that anyone that anyone is involved in drugs or was drug dealing or is putting holes in a woman, I'm sorry, in a bad light, or is living in excess, you know, they might give a little charity after they have three houses and twenty-five cars, then they'll give a little charity.
[01:45:54]  But anyone that does that, John Gotti, Elvis, who did drugs, anyone who does stuff like that has to be held in a low light in any media, in any form.
[01:46:04]  We don't put them up on pedestals.
[01:46:05]  That's the problem.
[01:46:06]  And, you know, parents have to help, but obviously there's a huge attraction for these people that are romance, you know, made romantic as if it's romantic to be a thug and it's a lifestyle and being a gangster.
[01:46:18]  All these things we have to put in a lower light.
[01:46:20]  And that's really the message that we should send to all people that even though it sounds entertaining, understand what it is.
[01:46:26]  It's not good.
[01:46:27]  There's no good from it.
[01:46:28]  The good songs I want.
[01:46:30]  But all these bad role models got to go down.
[01:46:32]  No drug user getting a Grammys like crazy while she's on drugs singing about that she's not going to rehab.
[01:46:38]  You know, it's ridiculous.
[01:46:39]  Yeah, I agree, Ozone, and you couldn't have said it any better.
[01:46:42]  Now, I'm going to give... My input, can I get a little bit of input?
[01:46:46]  Go ahead.
[01:46:47]  As far as I heard what you say in Ozone, and I agree with you, I think what parents need to do is keep some of this entertainment.
[01:46:56]  I don't know.
[01:46:57]  It might be, I don't, first of all, you know, I did go through some early childhood education training.
[01:47:04]  You got to make sure that those first three years are enriching and loving.
[01:47:08]  And as they grow up, you've got to make sure those kids listen to you.
[01:47:12]  And you do that by being good parents, loving parents.
[01:47:15]  And as they grow, they will listen to you.
[01:47:19]  I mean, be attentive parents.
[01:47:21]  Ghost, I don't think you disagree with me.
[01:47:24]  And when they get to the point where all these other influences come in, you can limit them.
[01:47:31]  And you can sit down with your kids.
[01:47:33]  You can talk to them and say, this is what this is.
[01:47:36]  You don't need this in your life.
[01:47:38]  You need to meet a lot of kids.
[01:47:40]  You can still reach them, whatever.
[01:47:42]  But for the new parents of today, start from day one.
[01:47:45]  Keep your relationship close and be attentive.
[01:47:49]  And when they get older, they're going to listen to you.
[01:47:52]  I raised grandkids, and I still have, and I don't have them with me now.
[01:47:57]  But when I sit down with them and I talk to them, they look me in the eyes and they listen to me because I've made an impression on them.
[01:48:04]  Well, I do, because that relationship start with a relationship that's solid.
[01:48:10]  And then those kids will listen to you.
[01:48:12]  You've got to bulletproof your relationship.
[01:48:15]  All right.
[01:48:15]  Now, I don't mean to cut people off here, but we've only got six minutes left, 30 seconds for everybody, and then I'm going to close out the show here.
[01:48:23]  No problem.
[01:48:24]  646, go ahead.
[01:48:25]  If you want to promote a show and get a point across, and then we're going to pass it over to Rose and then Ozone, and we're closing it out here.
[01:48:31]  Oh, no, I mean, I perfectly agree with agree with Rose.
[01:48:35]  You know, I mean, you know, rappers and singers and bands, they don't live in the household.
[01:48:40]  So any influence that, you know, for the child, it should start with the parent.
[01:48:44]  And, you know, they will listen, you know, if everything is done right.
[01:48:48]  I agree.
[01:48:49]  And thanks for your time.
[01:48:50]  You have a good night.
[01:48:51]  Thanks a lot, man.
[01:48:52]  We appreciate your input.
[01:48:54]  And my name is Eleven, just in case y'all didn't.
[01:48:56]  Thanks a lot, Eleven.
[01:48:58]  No problem.
[01:48:59]  Rose, you want to go ahead and leave us with a few words?
[01:49:04]  Just what I said, raise your kids upright.
[01:49:07]  Those first three years are very, very, very important.
[01:49:10]  Up until the age of five, anything that you put into your kids' heart or mind is going to have a disproportional effect on their whole life.
[01:49:21]  And as they grow, and if you've impacted on them a close communative community, talk to them, communicate with them, they will listen to you, even in the teen years.
[01:49:36]  I have had a very tumultuous relationship with my daughter, and the one that I thought should hate me is the one that loves me the most.
[01:49:45]  I took her kids away because she was in an abusive relationship, and she didn't protect her kids.
[01:49:52]  I did.
[01:49:52]  I stepped in.
[01:49:53]  She was too blind to see it at the time, and it happens.
[01:49:56]  But as a loving grandparent, I did.
[01:50:00]  All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, you know what?
[01:50:04]  Even as they get older, if you have a solid, loving relationship with your kids, they're going to listen to you.

=== Passionate Political Debate (04:05) ===

[01:50:16]  Okay.
[01:50:17]  And we'll go ahead and leave it at that.
[01:50:19]  Thank you very much, Rose.
[01:50:20]  Go ahead, Ozone.
[01:50:21]  Do you want to leave us with some last words?
[01:50:24]  Yeah, basically, kids will do what they see and not what they basically, their role models today are all drug users and people having sex and getting married and divorced nonstop and freely and openly drinking all night.
[01:50:40]  When I grew up, I didn't know any actors used drugs, and on the shows, there was no drugs or sex.
[01:50:45]  Now the actors are all using drugs.
[01:50:47]  All the kids know it, and on the shows, they're doing sex and drugs too.
[01:50:50]  And it's very bad.
[01:50:51]  Thanks for having me.
[01:50:52]  I'm the Ozone from Political Intervention, and I appreciate you letting me be on the show.
[01:50:57]  And thanks for having me.
[01:50:58]  No problem, Ozone.
[01:50:59]  Thank you very much for calling up, man.
[01:51:01]  Hi, please.
[01:51:03]  All right.
[01:51:03]  Well, you know, that concludes a pretty healthy debate.
[01:51:06]  I want to thank everybody who called in, Ozone, White Rose, guest number 11, everyone else who showed up this evening.
[01:51:15]  I really thank you very much.
[01:51:17]  Right now, all I'm going to do is close out the show.
[01:51:20]  But what I wanted to let everybody know is that we need to start understanding that these candidates that are out here for president right now aren't giving two rats asses about the American people.
[01:51:32]  You notice how they're not saying anything that benefits the American people.
[01:51:36]  They're not talking about the devaluing of the American dollar.
[01:51:40]  They're not talking about the fact that we've got New York high-end retail stores not accepting American money anymore.
[01:51:46]  They're accepting the Euro.
[01:51:49]  We need to understand that we need these politicians to pay more attention on stimulating our economy, not artificially by throwing government money at it, but actually to stimulate jobs, to create jobs, to stimulate innovation.
[01:52:03]  I mean, that's what we need.
[01:52:05]  And what's unfortunate is we've got most of our power-hungry autocrat politicians out here sticking a Kentucky fried chicken grease, thumb up their poop chutes, not giving two rats' asses about the American people.
[01:52:19]  And I think the American people need to wake up.
[01:52:22]  They need to write their congressmen.
[01:52:24]  They need to write their senators.
[01:52:25]  And they need to understand that we need to hold these people accountable.
[01:52:29]  We need to understand that these people need to start talking rhetoric that are in favor of the American people and no one else.
[01:52:37]  And that's what I'm talking about.
[01:52:40]  That's what I'm talking about.
[01:52:41]  And I thank everyone for tuning in with me.
[01:52:44]  And I beg all of you, if you appreciated this show, we get really passionate.
[01:52:49]  We get really heated on this show.
[01:52:51]  I advise you to check out the archives.
[01:52:54]  And you can get back to the archives at www.blogtalkradio.com slash ghost and check out all the shows that we have up on there.
[01:53:03]  We've got a few of them, let me tell you.
[01:53:05]  And we always have a good time and we get really passionate.
[01:53:08]  And let me tell you why we get passionate, folks.
[01:53:11]  Because I love America.
[01:53:13]  I'm a true conservative.
[01:53:15]  And I'm seeing in this day and age, whether you look at the left-wingers, whether it's Hillary Rotten Clinton, whether it's Barack Hussein Obama, and if you look on the right and you look at this closet liberal, John Turncoat McCain, you'll understand that true conservatives, true Republicans, people that believe in less taxes, less government in our faces, less government regulation, we don't have anybody to represent us, folks.
[01:53:41]  And that's what's unfortunate.
[01:53:43]  It's definitely unfortunate.
[01:53:45]  Once again, whether you like me, whether you hate me, I really appreciate you listening into me this evening.
[01:53:51]  I urge you to check us out in the archive once again, www.blogtalkradio.com/slash ghost.
[01:53:58]  Check out the archive and share some of these shows.
[01:54:02]  You know, we have a little share option.
[01:54:04]  Send some of these shows out to your friends, to your family, and ask them, what do you think about these subject matters?
[01:54:09]  And then talk about it, because that's what we needed, folks.
[01:54:11]  We need to perpetuate debate.
[01:54:14]  And I thank you very much for listening.
[01:54:16]  Long live the conservative movement and depth of feminism, folks.

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