Rep. Tim Burchett reveals how 70 years of U.S. government disinformation campaigns have buried evidence of underwater UAPs capable of 200+ mph speeds, citing Navy testimonies and whistleblower retaliation—including a 1950s destroyer encounter and a 1970s glowing cylinder sighting. He ties secrecy to defense contractors’ profits, insider trading by lawmakers, and alleged Chinese involvement in coastal drone incidents like New Jersey’s 2023 event, while dismissing the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 as a sham. Burchett warns Congress’s arrogance—fueled by blackmail schemes and billionaire backers—risks political violence, comparing it to January 6th, and links systemic corruption to 9/11 foreknowledge cover-ups, JFK’s "magic bullet" fraud, and $36 trillion in debt, demanding transparency as the only antidote to institutional decay. [Automatically generated summary]
We don't do shows on the UFOs, UAPs, whatever they're calling them, these mysterious lights, these objects, because I know for a dead certain fact that there is an ongoing 70-year ongoing disinformation campaign by the U.S. government to sow confusion.
Some of the people participating in that effort, I don't think they know they're participating in the effort, but they are nevertheless selling lies in an effort to get people off the trail of what this really is.
There is something going on.
What is it?
It's so hard to know.
You're one of the few people from my perspective who seems sincere.
You're also informed as a member of Congress.
And so I'm just grateful that you're doing this because I think you're going to be telling the truth.
He describes, I think, the landing gear in some translations talks about it being hooves of animal, like the hoof of an animal, which if you see, you know, you see when we went to the moon, that there is the landing gear, you know, it's got a pad, if we actually went to the moon.
I know there's a lot of people there that don't believe it.
But the but but I so I'm laying on my couch fast forward.
I'm in Congress.
I'm laying on my couch and I'm getting ready to go to sleep.
I sleep in my office and shower in the gym.
I'm not, as my banker says, he called me one day and said, he said, he said, brother, you're, he said, I'm pretty sure that you're the most honest member of Congress, but I know you're the poorest.
So I do that.
And so I was watching.
There was a thing on UFOs and they were talking about some former members were involved in some stuff trying to find out something.
I thought, you know, I'm going to start asking some questions.
And then I'm walking down the street and the center of all media in Washington, D.C., TMZ, his name's Colin.
He's a good friend of mine.
We've been to lunch and hang out some, but he stopped me and I didn't know who he was.
And he said, hey, I'm with TMZ.
He said, what do you think about this UFO report that's getting ready to come out?
And I said, brother, it'll look like it was shot with a shotgun because it'll be all redacted.
Oh, yeah.
And then I said, and if it, and it won't come out when they say it's going to come out.
And I said, really?
Why?
And I said, well, probably because the original report is probably going to have something in it and they're going to pull it back.
And sure enough, they did.
And it was heavily redacted.
And it was just a big fluff piece, nothing.
And then I said the magic words, which I ended up putting on one of my t-shirts, which I sell on my website, that more people believe in UFOs and believe in Congress.
And so people started calling me, you know, all these national figures that you see, reporters, legitimate reporters like yourself, people from all over the country.
And so I start asking questions.
And I get with Luna and some other folks.
Matt Gates was involved in it at the time.
And we went to the chairman and said, let's have a hearing.
And I think they really, Tucker, I think they just patted us on the head and said, sure, we'll have the hearing, you know, and they're going to make fun of you and go on.
Turned out, I talked to some old timers that were there, reporters.
They said that was the most attended hearing they'd ever had.
They had to open up another room and there were people lined up down the hall.
When I walked out at, I see it was, I guess in the morning, I walked out of office, had to be on an early show about it at 4.30 in the morning.
People were already lined up outside the building and they come from all over the country.
One guy came on his vacation and there was ministers there.
And the funny thing about it all is that when I go to speak to groups, it never fails that somebody of prominence, of prominence will come, a doctor, a lawyer, a PR person will come up to me and say, hey, I had an experience.
I was sitting at a, I was helping out a colleague.
I rarely go out of town.
This is kind of unusual for me.
So this is kind of an interesting deal for me up here.
But I went to another congressman's district to help him run for re-election.
We were sitting in a country club.
And I'm not a country clubber type, as you can probably tell.
Jakey Gleason said, I wouldn't join a country club.
It'd have somebody like me.
And I'm sort of like that way.
And I sit next to this lady, and she was classy.
You could tell she was old money.
She wasn't new money.
She had nice jewelry on and she had the clothes you could tell were nice.
And she was just a classy lady.
And she said, well, Congressman, about those UFOs.
And I thought, well, here it comes.
You know, I'm going to get popped.
And she said, I had an experience when I was in college.
She said, she talked about going to pick up her brother.
And this thing followed them down for several minutes.
You know, it was cylindrical shaped and it followed them.
It was, I think it was close to dark and it was kind of lit up.
It had a, I think a bluish tint to it or something.
And it flew, it followed them for quite some time.
And then it just took off and they were like, what in the world was that?
And they, you know, this was in the 70s.
And she said, I really haven't really told many people that.
And I get stories like I had a, and when they film you, when I was early on in Congress, I had plenty of time, obviously, it being the 435th most powerful member of Congress.
And, you know, these history channel, all these folks would come interview me.
And they would do one time they interviewed me for like an hour.
So they would take segments of that and put that out for just multiple issues, you know, of their TV show, hunting UFOs or whatever.
And I remember I was in Nashville at the time and a colleague, a former state legislator, a guy who was in leadership, called me up.
And I remember he, and it's kind of ironic that he was back in East Tennessee and I was in Nashville for a get-together I was throwing for our state legislators because nobody ever, when I was in legislature, nobody ever did anything for us from Congress.
And I just get down there and throw them a spaghetti dinner or something, you know.
And the phone rang and it was him and he said, Timbo, he said, I just saw you on TV on the UFO show.
Say if I took a say I took a brand new Indian or Harley-Davidson down to back in time to the Mayflower or whatever and gave it to them.
They would maybe shine it.
They wouldn't know how to do anything.
I mean, of course, we don't have carburetors.
They wouldn't know how to do anything with fuel injection.
They probably couldn't ever make the fuel high enough octang where it would kick it off.
They maybe could get it started if they got lucky at some point.
But that would be a rarity.
I think that's sort of if there is something that they can't, they don't know what it is.
And I think, too, they have compartmentalized this stuff.
So you think, FOIA, I'm going to freedom of information.
Everybody says, well, just freedom of information at Burchick, go to Area 51.
There's nothing at Area 51.
They've moved it to WrightPad or something else since then.
But the point is, is that everybody in government is looking down the barrel or looking in their little area.
And to their knowledge, most of those people are telling the truth.
And they sent it off to these, there's five or six corporations that it's been disclosed in hearings that we think probably has some of this technology.
But it has been so compartmentalized that people, I mean, there's nobody alive that was around in Roswell of 47 and incidents that happened in Texas and others all over the world.
And so they don't really know what they're looking at.
They're looking at something and they've associated it or given it to these corporations that have a quasi-governmental connection, but they're far enough apart where I can't go FOIA.
I can't go FOIA Ford.
I mean, I could, but they're just going to tell me, go jump in the lake.
And now the interesting thing is, is that the is that they've seen that the opinion polls are showing that over half the people in the country believe something else is going on.
Oh, of course.
And so now they're saying, hey, we need money to study this.
I mean, it's the cat going after its tail, really.
And it's just a circular thing that they just after money and they don't really care.
And then it just said, if it dealt with UAP's UFOs, it'd disclose it.
If a file contains it, America has a right to see it unredacted.
And Chuck Schumer's was several hundred pages long, and it was celebrated by everybody.
And it set up a commission very similar to the Kennedy assassination, which here we are, you know, 60 plus years later.
And still, they're telling us this single bullet that was in you're a gunman that they found on a gurney that was basically unscratched an hour and a half after the assassination in the hospital at Lakeland.
And it doesn't, it just so the but Schumer's solution was we needed a warrant commission to tell us the truth about who can decide and that basically would just cover it up.
So it's defense contractors are the bottom line is I think what you're saying is that the defense contractors, for some reason, we can only speculate, don't want this information disclosed.
That's why we're sending $600 million to Ukraine and the national defense authorization, which I didn't vote for.
I wanted to give our military more money, military fighting men more money, but I didn't want to give the war pimps any more reason to Ukraine or any of these other wars we're in.
I've I've had a the deep throat moment, you know, where Nixon was overthrown and somebody comes up to me in the hallway in a crowded hallway, somebody who I would consider a friend and said, Burchett, man, you really don't need to be doing this stuff, don't you?
Man, you're kicking the hornet's nest on this thing.
And so you're satisfied, just to get to basics here quickly, you're satisfied that whatever we're seeing in the skies and have since at least the Second World War, since at least the development of nuclear weapons, since Hiroshima, whatever that is, is not foreign military.
If it was Russian, I mean, honestly, Putin with his ego, he would ride barechested down Pennsylvania Avenue, get out of UFO, you know, wrestle a bear on the front porch of the White House and get back in his UFO.
I mean, he wouldn't be bogged down in Ukraine.
If it was China, they would own us.
They clearly partially own us now.
And if it was America, you wouldn't see Trump standing on an aircraft carrier and a jet flies by and breaks a sound bear and everybody thinks that's the coolest thing.
I mean, it would be something a lot cooler than that.
And so I just don't think we have that technology or we're able to utilize it.
I mean, I've talked to the best, Peck, I've talked to the best pilots in the world that are ours, some of them, not all of them, and that have told me.
I mean, one guy, I remember I was at the Capitol Hill Club.
It was just an unusual encounter.
A guy spoke to a group and he followed me out and said, you know, Tim, our congressman or whatever, he said that thing was 14 feet.
He went like this from my canopy.
And I thought to myself, why didn't he say 15?
Why didn't he say 20?
But he said 14.
And then he just, he said, this thing, it wasn't ours.
He said, I don't know what it was, but it wasn't ours.
And that's all he said.
And I had a very high-ranking member of the Navy describe some underwater experiences they'd had with something that was doing 200 miles.
So we've got, and this was described to me in areas, and I was quoted on some.
I was just quote, all I do is quote people that have knowledge, but this was one that was, he was talking about there are five or six, I think, deepwater areas of the ocean.
You've traveled a lot.
I have not.
There's not a lot of deepwater areas around East Tennessee at Fort Louden Lake or anything, but you're talking miles deep.
And, of course, you've heard this before.
We know more about the surface of the moon than we do the surface of the ocean.
And he said, these are areas where we see a high propensity of these UFOs.
And there was a case where it was fairly well documented.
They had multiple sightings.
They were doing maneuvers and they had the ships or boats, whatever you want to call them out there.
I'm not a Navy guy.
And there was the sighting in the air and the pilots radioed back and said, hey, is there something going on?
Is there another operation?
We got some secret technology stuff we're working on.
They said, we don't have any.
And they, you know, Pentagon, nobody, nobody knew about anything.
And they pulled it back and then they pulled everything back, scrubbed the mission.
And then the next day, all their internet traffic had been scrubbed.
But this guy was kind of a wonk and he'd made copies of it.
But, you know, the point I have there is, why would we risk multi-million dollar apparatus?
Why would we put something in the air around our best pilots that could have a crash?
Because these guys are talking about there's actually, you know, they've come close to collisions.
Why would they do that?
They would not do that.
That would be stupid.
I mean, there's even, you know, I always say military intelligence a whole lot like congressional ethics.
I don't think it really exists much anymore.
But anyway, I just don't think that we'd be risking that.
Yeah, and I've got these pictures and I want to show you this.
I've got this, you know, I always afraid I'm going to end up in a refrigerator up in North Carolina or a freezer in North Carolina somewhere, you know, because I'm not going up there and checking out some guy's fines he's got.
They did that to one of our guys, one of the very first person, the first hearing we had, if you remember, some weekly newspaper reporter found out that one of the guys suffered from PTSD because of his military career.
You know what?
In Tennessee, we embrace that.
My daddy put on a pillow in Okinawa.
And to the day he died, I never woke him up over the top of him.
I always woke him up by his big toe because he might have woke up on one of those dadgum islands and pinned me up against the wall.
And so, and we celebrate our heroes, but Washington, D.C. just destroys them.
And to think that a weekly newspaper found out this guy's medical history, which is a total violation of the law, somebody should go to jail for it, but nobody did.
They tried to destroy this guy.
And that's what happens to people in Washington, D.C. That's what happens to our military heroes when they step out of line because of the sewer or deep state or whatever you want to call it.
But that's what they, and that's why we need real whistleblower protection for them.
And I'll have people actually, I've had people call me.
One last thing.
I'm in the Longworth building.
It's no secret.
It's public record.
But I've had people that'll call me or send a message to me and want to come by, and they won't come in that building and ask me if I can come outside.
I've had people call me and want to come to the house in East Tennessee because they don't want to come to Washington, D.C. and talk to me.
There was a well-publicized television show that was on for a while that I didn't know.
I didn't know they were coming.
I mean, they said some people wanted to talk to me, and it was a trusted friend.
And I said, sure, send them, bring them up to, come on up to D.C. And I said, well, they don't want to come to D.C. And they drove from wherever to my house in East Tennessee on a Saturday afternoon.
And then they put some stuff on a screen that was pretty compelling.
I try to try to grasp it within my very small brain.
What am I supposed to do with that?
I ask God all the time, what do you want me to do with this stuff, Lord?
And right now, I've just got to get enough disclosure.
I've come to the realization that nothing is ever going to happen, Tucker, until we have somebody in the White House that says enough is enough and just discloses it.
And I hope President Trump, you know, I have discussions with him privately and other times that I'm not, I've talked to his people, but at some point, there's several of us, Luna and myself, and several others that are concerned about this issue, and we want some answers.
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I think I stated that in the committee, I think part of the thing they do is they outrun the clock.
They outrun the clock.
We either stumble, one of us gets in trouble or they get us in trouble or they lose or they move on to another object, another shiny object somewhere else.
Americans want their pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that's about Congress's attention span, you know, because we're always on one and then it's the hot issue and then the news cycle changes two weeks later on to something else.
So you guys are often, members of Congress are often briefed in skiffs.
You know, it's a secure location.
Then they immediately go and call CNN and tell them, you know, everyone was at the scale.
But if a member of Congress received, quote, classified information about UAPs and then immediately held a press conference and said, here's what I just heard and saw.
And yes, I'm breaking the law, but like tough shit.
They've got their beings and there's saucers or some craft or something.
But there's a movie coming out pretty soon, if it's ever allowed to come out.
I was in it a little bit.
And then you have former members of the CIA.
You have others that positively say they were there and they identified these things.
They diagnosed them and they saw them.
They saw the craft.
And there's enough people out there saying it, but they're just so suppressed.
And the media moves on so fast on something.
And I've been on so many of these interviews and they're playing the theme from some crazy TV show or something before I come on, and they're just making a joke out of it.
And I've had military personnel call me and tell me that they've chased these things.
They've been in the water.
I had one guy tell me a story.
He was an officer and he was in the water fishing off, I think it was on the East Coast, and this huge craft flew over them.
And then these several jets were flying trying to keep up with it.
And he identified the jets because he was obviously an Air Force officer.
And he said, look, I just want you to continue on this thing.
You're not, a lot of people have seen stuff.
And he said, I have.
And, you know, and I mean, he had a distinguished career, but it just continues on and on and on.
And it gets, you know, we get patted on the head and say, okay, you can have another hearing.
And then we do it.
But until somebody in the White House says disclose or somebody walks out of one of these labs with something and shows it and puts it on YouTube before he's allowed to commit suicide, I think you're going to, that's the only way we're going to get to the bottom of it because it will never, it's so deep.
The layers of the onions or onion is so deep, you just keep peeling it off and it's just a different person, a different story.
You go over here and, you know, the naivety of Congress, you have members telling me, well, let's just get a, let's go over here and get a, you know, we'll get a tour of the, of the, of where you think these things are.
I say, dude, once we announce that, you know, the U-Haul vans are already been there and gone.
You know, it's not that way.
It's not going to work that way.
Congress is not going to walk in there with all its magnificence and arrogance and find something.
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If the public is being lied to by the government, if there's a continuous, ongoing, publicly funded campaign to lie to the American public by its own government, that is justification for overthrowing the government.
They can't do that in a democracy because we own the government.
They don't.
And so that alone, leaving aside the reality of UAPs, is, you know, it's enough for, I mean, why is it so hard for somebody in authority, either in the White House or in congressional leadership, to say, we want this information and we want it by the close of business today, or else you're fired, or we're going to send soldiers in and get the information.
Well, I mean, we had, you know, these sightings last year over New Jersey, over the whole Mideast coast that the entire country saw on their own video.
I mean, we were told by leadership that, you know, these, these guys can't afford to be here.
You know what?
If you can't afford to be in Congress and go get another dad gum job, more people have played professional baseball in the major leagues than have any nice.
I just wonder, though, I mean, the details of this are interesting, but I think the broad outline is already known by the whole public, which is this is fake.
And these people are in it for reasons that have nothing to do with the public interest.
I mean, my buddy Tommy Saler manages my $12,000 portfolio.
Everybody do like I do, put it in mutual fund.
I pulled it out last year, this recently just pulled it out so I could pay for my daughter's school, which is what I established it for in the first place.
But it's, you know, and that's, and when this airs, I'm going to make a lot of enemies.
Somebody will come down and sit beside me, somebody in leadership or somebody I'm friends with in Congress and say, hey, man, some of the guys are really upset with you on this.
I say, well, on what?
And they say on this, what you said on such and such.
And I've said this before.
I said, and this will be a chapter of my book, if I ever write it.
And I say, but you know it's the truth, right?
And they go, oh, yeah, we know it's the truth.
We just wish you wouldn't say it anymore.
And I can't tell you how many times I've had that conversation.
And so I, you know, it's just a, it's just a game.
And it's a, and America needs to start paying attention.
And Congress, members of Congress, look, people, they always say, we need more people to vote, but as long as they're winning, that's what leadership's about in either party is staying in power.
It's having the suburban.
It's being three deep with security.
It's never standing in line at a, at the movie theater or going to a ball game or a concert.
And I think you need a legislative body, not against the Congress in theory.
What I'm worried about, here's the point that I'm attempting to make in a long-winded way, which is if you don't pay any attention at all to how people feel about you when your job is to represent those people, that system can't continue.
And you're going to get a January 6th, but for real at some point if you keep acting this way.
I think there's an arrogance associated with being in Congress.
I think there's a complete arrogance.
I always remember one time I was at a UT football game when I was in the legislature and a former member, or well, they're all dead.
Most of the people I served with, a lot of them are, pulled up, parked illegally, got out of their car and come strutting across the parking lot.
And my buddy said, you know, who the heck is that?
And I said, he's a pretty big deal in Nashville.
He said, tell him ain't in Nashville.
He's in Knoxville.
And I, you know, and I always remembered that because now I got a judge who was telling me that, my best friend, but he, it was just, you know, a wake-up moment that I realized early on that everybody has got this fiefdom type mentality.
And it's who can represent better than me?
Nobody.
And I can tell you right now, there's probably 200,000 people in my district that could probably do a better job than I am.
We just shake our head, but it's a lot of frustration, though, Tucker.
Yeah, we're in the minority.
You look at spending bills and look at the opinion polls on things like Ukraine, other things, and you look at the board and you're wondering, where are we at?
What's going on?
And, you know, and for guys like me, though, it gets incredibly tough because, you know, the big boys start calling and the bank account dries up pretty quick.
It's hard to raise money.
For somebody like me, it is incredibly tough to raise money.
Most of my contributions are just hardworking, God-fearing people.
They'll send me $10 and a Bible verse, you know, and I don't, the billionaires usually are for me the day after the election.
Yeah, and someday I'd like to, maybe if I had the opportunity to get to the U.S. Senate, I wouldn't mind doing that, but that would be Katie bar the door.
They'd pour the money in all over the country to beat me.
But you're even seeing with a couple of your colleagues are getting primaried by billionaires because they've said things that are true, but not acceptable, I guess.
And I remember my dad told me, he said, put an American flag on top of that mulch pile.
And I did.
And he said, this thing's bigger than that.
Daddy's a World War II veteran, nothing.
He's calm under fire, man.
Him and mama both were wonderful people.
Mama flew an airplane during the Second World War Depression era.
I didn't have electricity.
She's a senior in high school.
They were tough people and they didn't like what they were doing to me.
And apparently the public didn't either because I knocked on, I said, I knocked on over 6,000 doors and beat a respected incumbent, I guess, in the primary.
And I never looked back.
And I became, I was in the state house for four years, state Senate for 12 years.
And that's sort of been my thing.
Even with the UFOs, my thing is when people come to me, because you can hire a lobbyist, you can hire a lawyer, but the average working guy, they call the front desk and they asked, can I speak to Tim?
Because they think they know me, because the government's ripped them off.
And I always remember during that time, it was when, do you remember Travelgate under the Clinton administration?
And it seems like I think Hillary and Bill, if I remember correctly, these people that were running the travel operation at the White House in Congress, they ran them out of business.
And those people travel the country because I remember they had a half a million dollars or they had 300,000 in legal expenses.
I had more than that in the mulch business.
I mean, they were threatening a felony.
They were going to throw me in the federal penitentiary over this thing because I wouldn't give up.
And they had, and I remember the University of Tennessee, this liberal professor gave his kids extra credit if they would come picket me.
And they came down there and they brought the neighbors, they brought neighborhood people down there and they had misspelled words in their signs, you know, and they'd park their BMWs around the class around the side and they could come pick at me to look like they were just, and they all dressed down.
It was the most pathetic thing.
And I remember the person at the city that was really orchestrating it all against me was, I remember seeing them hug the reporter that was writing all the nasty articles about me.
And I just, you know, the whole thing was just, and I saw, I see Americans getting run down the road.
And I think that's why people like me appeal.
There's not a lot of folks like me, obviously, in Congress, but folks like me appeal to people because they've been run over and they know they can call me and I can, and I'm not judgmental.
I just say, I don't care if they vote for me or not.
I have people that are convicted felons, people have killed people before and I've helped them out.
And because I don't care because I see the system, it ran over me.
And I was just some white middle class kid from West Knoxville and the system ran me over.
They flew, from what I understand, a couple people were flown to D.C. I know one apparently was, and I think the other one was, and they either called me or called somebody else and said, you know, no, Tim's a good guy.
The next week, Tucker, there was this huge, and I said, it always gets covered up and everything gets covered up and then somebody owns you.
That's a compromise.
That'll be the title of my book if I ever write about Tim Burchett's Compromised Washington because that's what happens or it has happened in the past.
The very next week, a Chinese prostitution ring was busted in where?
Washington, D.C. And who are the, and it was listed in the paper.
Who is their client list?
High-ranking officials in government, elected officials, and lobbyists.
Now, to me, that's all kinds of red flags going up all over the place.
Well, and then the next week, the story disappeared.
So one of the members of Congress who all of us were encouraged to think was weird and to hate, he was almost like a ritual sacrifice for the sins of the entire body, I felt, was this guy, George Santos.
George Santos was not even a full-term congressman from New York who was, you know, like a serial fabricator, made up all these kind of amazing stories about his life.
And I spoke to someone this morning who's close to George Santos, who visited him in prison this weekend and told me that he saw George Santos shackled in chains and he's been in solitary since he got to prison.
And I think our party and everybody else just kicked him to the curb and said, look how righteous we are.
And I just don't, you know, he'd always sit with me on Sinner's Row.
That's what I call it.
Every time somebody would get in trouble, they would are perceived to be in trouble because I'm not, I mean, I've said this before, and I'll say it publicly.
George is under a heck of a lot of pressure.
And I call myself a Christian.
And if I sat there and watched him kill himself over something and he went to hell, I'd have that on my soul.
And I just don't want that.
And, you know, my chief of staff called me one day and said, Holly, hey, boss.
I said, he goes, I know what you're going to say.
And I go, what is it?
And he said, nobody wants to take George as their mentor.
Would you be his mentor?
I said, sure, sign him up.
And he just shook his head and said, said, yeah, he'll do it.
And then, and George and I just became fast friends.
You know, his office was caddy cornered to mine and the press would be just lined up down the hall.
And some kid would walk by close in stature down the other end.
I go, hey, there's George Santos.
And they'd all run down there and chase him.
And I'd have fun with that.
And then George would come in the office and I would talk to him about that.
And I'd talk to him about my faith.
And, you know, I just said, this ain't, this is not reality, George.
And I'd say, promise me, if you think you're going to take your life, you'd call me anytime, night or day.
He said, I will, Tim.
Don't worry.
And he never did, you know, but he'd call me from time to time.
I'm not sure who they are, but, or maybe I don't understand the whole thing, but how this person called me this morning to say, can you save George Santos?
So the Republican leadership with Marjorie, Taylor Greene, with Massey now, and with Santos, just like immediately, we've never heard of the guy and we hope he dies in prison.
Like, what is that?
Why can't the Republican Party have leadership that stands by its people and stands by its voters?
And the CIA or whoever would have to admit that they were wrong.
They'd have to admit that they were wrong.
And the arrogance is just, I think once you take the oath, you get an oath of arrogance that you got to protect us, our past, and we'll protect you kind of thing in the future.
Since you, more than any member of Congress, have thought about this, as candidly as you can answer, what do you think, based on what you've heard, the UFOs are, actually?
I think, again, God created the heavens and the earth.
And every night I go out with my dogs, usually at four o'clock in the morning.
They go to the bathroom and look at those stars and I see the light from those stars.
And it's hard for my very small brain to comprehend this.
A light from those stars left there before the time of Christ.
And some of those stars don't even exist that we're looking at today, which is hard for me to fathom, or as a good old boys would say, hard for me to phantom.
But I think there's something else out there.
I do not think we are the best that God can do.
Now, is there something here that's proposed to me with these deep sea areas?
I don't know.
Has something been here?
But the way for me to comprehend anything traveling light years, I mean, it's just beyond belief.
That is beyond belief.
But now there's this quantum, I've been explaining quantum physics, and I really don't understand it, how something can be here and instantaneously be here simultaneous, almost simultaneously.
And that, to me, begs the question of how does that fit into all this?
And if something's here in these deep sea areas, has it been here for thousands of years?
And that's the other question.
That's what, you know, these folks in the Navy kind of, and I have to be real careful.
I mean, it's every, you know, and science can't get out of its own way.
Every time they find something new, you know, it's like the coelacanth, for instance.
It was a lobed thin fish caught off the coast of Madagascar, I believe it was, and it's supposed to have been extinct 50 million years ago, but all of a sudden it's here.
And then they, well, you know, there was this, but they can't explain it.
And I, again, go back to that Bible verse, those professing themselves to be wise became fools.
And I think it's, I was on a show the other day with a guy named Loeb.
He's a UFO guy.
He's, yeah, I think he's at Harvard, I believe.
Anyway, he was talking about how science, what he likes about science is that it's that it's it's it's changing and it's in it how it but a lot of scientists it's like you know this is a brick wall this is the way it is it's not going to change and i think with the ufos that's kind of the situation we're in um i just tell you i've talked to too many people that have just sworn to me what they've seen and um and some that i can't disclose
disclose but and i would hope that eventually that those people are able to come forward yeah and in general that people would start telling the truth it's it's an act of liberation when you do congressman timbertick i appreciate your coming on thank you thank you tucker we've got a new website we hope you will visit it's called newcommissionnow.com and it refers to a new 9-11
Commission.
So we spent months putting together our 9/11 documentary series and if there's one thing we learned it's that in fact there was foreknowledge of the attacks.
A foreign national was caught celebrating as the World Trade Center fell and later said he was in New York quote to document the event.
I didn't know there would be an event to document in the first place because he had foreknowledge.
And maybe most amazingly somebody an unknown investor shorted American Airlines and United Airlines the companies whose planes the attackers used on 9/11 as well as the banks that were inside the Twin Towers just before the attacks.
They made money on the 9/11 attacks because they knew they were coming.