Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk honor Charlie’s legacy at a memorial, framing faith as the antidote to America’s decline, where Kirk warns of a supernatural battle against Christianity—highlighting immigration policies favoring non-Christian regions and campus censorship. They contrast modern political critique with biblical repentance, citing Gen Z men’s shift toward traditional denominations like Catholicism and Orthodoxy amid rising materialism rejection. Kirk urges young conservatives to abandon victimhood, prioritize family, and engage in active resistance—from voter outreach to rejecting processed foods—as both spiritual duty and freedom’s last defense. [Automatically generated summary]
Whatever happens next in America, I hope it's in this direction because God is here and you can feel it.
And Charlie would have loved this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist.
And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever.
So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people.
And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.
We must make him stop talking.
And there's always one guy with the bright idea and I could just hear him say, I've got an idea.
Everything is inverted and the Beatitudes tell it, I think, the most crisply.
Everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's going to be.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
That is true, and you can feel it here.
The thing about Charlie's message, I've thought a lot about it, and I'm trying not to be emotional because in addition to everything else, he was a wonderful man and a decent man and one of those rare people you meet who you just groove with in conversation and have these very intense conversations that you don't stop thinking about, which is my experience with him.
But the main thing about Charlie and his message, he was bringing the gospel to the country.
He was doing the thing that the people in charge hate most, which is calling for them to repent.
So how is Charlie's message different?
And Charlie was a political person who was deeply interested in coalition building and in getting the right people in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically, but he also knew that politics is not the final answer.
It can't answer the deepest questions, actually.
That the only real solution is Jesus.
And the reason, it's really simple.
Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other people and getting them to change.
Christianity, the gospel message, the message of Jesus, begins with repentance.
Christianity calls upon you to change.
Our core prayer given to us by Jesus, the Lord's prayer, demands that we forgive other people, but preceding that is a request for our forgiveness.
In other words, forgive us our sins, meditate on what we've done wrong, how we've fallen short, and then it becomes possible to forgive other people.
That is a call to change our hearts from Jesus, and that is the only way forward in this country.
That is the only solution to where we all know we're going.
And Charlie knew where we were going without that.
And that is not a call for being politically passive.
Of course not.
I stood in many stages with Charlie calling for various people to be elected, particularly Donald Trump.
And I'm proud of that.
It's only an acknowledgement that what Charlie was really saying is that change begins the only change that matters when we repent of our sins.
We, me, a recognition that the real problem is me and how fallen I am.
And that was the reason that Charlie was fearless at all times, truly fearless, to his last moment.
He was unafraid.
He was not defensive, and there was no hate in his heart.
I know that because I've got a little hate compartment in my heart.
And I would often express that to Charlie about various people.
And he would always say, always say, that's a sad person.
That's a broken person.
And that's a person who needs help.
That's a person who needs Jesus.
He said that in private because he meant it.
So I guess I would just say this gathering and God's presence, God's very obvious presence in this room, the presence of Jesus is a reminder of what we've known for 2,000 years, which is any attempt to extinguish the light causes it to burn brighter every single time.
So as we proceed into whatever comes next, and clearly something's coming next, remember this moment.
Remember being in a room with the Holy Spirit humming like a tuning fork.
Because for those of us that are Christians, it doesn't drive you crazy.
You actually see what's going on, which is that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and darkness and spirits, that there is a spiritual war here.
And you're right, Tucker.
I find people in this space that are not anchored to faith, anchored to Jesus, they do lose their mind.
Because there is no rational or reasonable explanation for what the country is doing to itself or what we are experiencing.
But if you then see and you know that there is a God and we are not him, that there is an entire dimension of angels and demons and spirits that are constantly struggling around us, and that there is a supernatural dimension, as you mentioned, all of a sudden, that doesn't make sense.
We're just here temporarily in the Christian view.
There's an afterlife for us.
There is the next life.
Our bodies will actually resurrect.
Christ our Lord will come back and reign over this earth in the thousand-year millennia.
For those of us that know the truth, we know that our God is a God of order and distinction.
What is the first thing that God did?
In the Hebrew scriptures, it says, well, and also our scripture, in the original Genesis, Bereshith, which is, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, and then he separated and he made sense.
He made order out of chaos.
Our God is a God of order, and order only comes with distinctions.
And distinctions are necessary.
Think about all the distinctions that God set up in the first six books of Genesis that are currently under attack.
The distinction between male and female.
The distinction between man and nature.
The distinction between the holy and the profane.
The distinction between good and evil.
The distinction between infant and adult.
These distinctions have always been what Western civilization were built upon.
But it is Satan's goal to blur and eventually destroy those distinctions.
Because those distinctions of which we get order, and if you do not have that order, then you have the closest thing to satanic chaos here in our country.
People can't see the future, period, because they're not God.
They can only sort of muddle along in the half-darkness and do their best.
And so as soon as you have leaders who imagine that there's a really clear line between today and three years from now, and they can see what it is, like you're going to wind up in disaster.
The Ukraine war.
Again, we're surrounded by examples of this.
And so really what you need in a leader is good intent and humility.
And humility.
That's exactly those are the two things.
You want someone who, you know, imperfect as he may be, will make a good faith effort to uplift his people.
A, and B, you need someone who understands his limits in doing that.
It's really, you know, it comes in all these various justifications throughout time, but just to restate, you are not allowed to kill people except in self-defense.
That's the most basic rule of them all.
And if you find yourself doing that, you are evil or abetting evil on the side of evil.
And if you lose that clarity, like people make mistakes all the time, and what you think is self-defense is actually an act of aggression or whatever.
I mean, these are complicated scenarios as they occur, right?
And you do your best to make the right decision.
But if you don't go into it with the knowledge that as a human being, you are not in charge of life, you did not create it, and you are not allowed to take it except to preserve your own life or those of the people you love or the people you're in charge of.
If you don't know that and say it and repeat it to yourself every single day, you will wind up murdering millions and millions of people.
I really believe that there's such a hatred for Christianity that any part of the population that is like remotely Christian, they inherently hate you because the real goal is to eliminate Christianity.
Do you notice that they never are like enthusiastic about bringing in major parts of the population of Eastern Europe that are super Christian?
Yet they're like, let's go bring in the witchcraft country.
Is that they think that they are so much better than you?
It is an elitist hierarchical position and that you're an annoyance.
That your concerns, that what you're doing is just kind of stay out of the way.
And I know people disagree with me.
I think this is behind the push for legalizing marijuana.
I think this is the push for trying to overly medicate the society, is they do not want a disagreeable citizenry.
This is why they want testosterone rates to go down.
This is why they wanted to kick the military men out of the alpha men out of the military with the vaccine, is because a population that asks questions and stands up to the powerful is a threat to them.
So they much rather have you be subdued, just watch TV, not care about what's happening, and just kind of stay on your benzodiazepins or Valium or marijuana and three beers a night, and then you're agreeable.
But what has always made America different as a beacon of liberty is that we would call BS on tyranny whenever we see it.
And that is what is at the heart of this movement.
And they look at you as an annoyance.
Do people want to be free?
And that is a very difficult question to answer.
In the book of Exodus and Numbers, the answer is no.
Is that if you fail to teach a generation the value of liberty, they actually instinctively don't want to be free.
When God delivered his chosen people out of Egypt and he performed the most amazing miracles imaginable, you know, the Nile River goes red and frogs from the sky and the firstborn dead and the Red Sea parts and they go into the Sinai desert.
After a couple chapters, they're like, hey, we want to go back to Egypt.
Literally, we had melons, leeks, cucumbers, and meat.
And they say, hey, Moses, can we go back to Egypt?
Now, mind you, this is when God blew quail off course and manna from heaven and they need and wanted for nothing, but they preferred to be slaves that were taken care of than free citizens in the desert where they had to be responsible.
And that is a very important lesson for all of us that liberty is a value that we must pass on, that we must cherish.
And part of the population will never wake up because they would rather be in Egypt.
And what is in front of us in this election cycle and what is in front of us in this culture right now is do you want to live as a free citizen?
And that might be hard.
That means you have to provide for your family.
You might have to make tough decisions.
Or do you want to just go be a Russian serf back in Egypt where they give you your little ration every month and you have no liberty and you have no freedom?
That is really what's in front of us right now.
And I think we're seeing a revival begin to happen because it really is spiritual at its core where the American people are going to demand, no, we do not want to go back to Egypt.
We want to live free.
We know it's harder, but that is the American way.
I just want to say I'm not predicting that Donald Trump will win in November.
If we had an election, by the way, where we didn't have mail-in ballots all over the place and signature verification, I think Donald Trump would easily win in November for the record, but we don't.
Tucker, when we go to college campuses, I was at Kansas State today, by the way.
I will tell you, they didn't treat us very well.
So you guys got to call them up and say, they were worse than Boulder in Madison, by the way.
It's Ecclesiastes 1, and you're like, what is you've probably read it like 10 times and understand it's actually better because he says with God, there actually is meaningless.
But that is kind of the, that is exactly, that is the one thing that I, not that I have all the women and all the money or whatever, but like you do reach an age in life where you're like, okay, you know, I've achieved all my dumb little goals that I set out for myself.
And they're all very small bore because they always are.
And like, okay, like, what, is that, was that worth it?
Was the prize worth winning?
Did that bring me joy and fulfillment and like knowledge of eternal life?
I can't stand reading a digital Bible unless I absolutely have to.
I like reading from a physical Bible.
No distractions.
No pings, no dings, no phone calls, no tweets, no telegrams.
And yeah, that's the other thing, which is if we want to get back to first principles and you want hope, we must put God first in everything that we do and understand that we are nothing here but just for a short instant, a short little glimpse.
And we act not out of outcome, but we act out of obedience.
What I am doing right now to try to help Trump win and try to do all these things, I have no idea if we'll be successful.
So why do you do it, Charlie?
It could be rigged.
It could be all this.
Happy to go into that.
I do it because I love God and we're called by Jesus to love him in everything that we do with our heart and our soul and our strength and our mind.
And God cares deeply about the type of society that we live in.
And there's not God's heart anywhere for us to live in tyranny.
Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
Psalm 97, 10, let those of you who love God hate evil.
We are called to go into the public square and to contest for those who cannot fight for themselves to fight for liberty.
And liberty is God's idea, not man's idea.
And what we are seeing culminate, I think, is a crescendo of a multi-decade spiritual battle, which is now currently manifested in the political.
And we do it not because, you know, we hope Trump is going to win.
We do it to honor a God that loves us.
Why are so many young people going back to church?
I mean, I would, if you'd asked me that three years ago, I would have said it's because the promise of the modern West, the post-war West, God died and we dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima, obviously, because we assumed godlike powers.
We have the power of life and death over the planet, over humanity itself.
And so that was literally the moment when the West stopped believing in God and things began to fall apart.
But evil has a counterbalance, which is actually more powerful.
And it's called good.
It's the spirit of God.
And you are seeing that.
And I am seeing it in, I mean, all the time.
And it's what keeps me from being despondent.
And I see it as you see everything through other people.
And I've lived in a secular world my whole life.
And certainly in the news business for 35 years, I've only known secular people.
There are no religious people in the news business, none.
Maybe in the editing room or something, but they don't talk.
And I now know people personally really well who are like, yeah, I was like praying the other day or was reading the Bible or I think I believe in Jesus.
I always tell the kids who work for me, the one person I don't trust is me because I know him so well.
No, I think I'm just so aware of it.
I mean, I think one of the ways that people change when they start thinking about God is your timeline gets longer and you realize that this is just a snapshot in eternity and it's not the end and it wasn't the beginning when you were born.
Like this is a lot bigger.
You start thinking about what happens after you die.
It's not the end.
And you start seeing the world in those terms.
Death is not the worst thing.
You know, you can live in hell on earth by being trapped by lies.
And that's a choice that all of us make every day.
Am I going to participate in the lie or not?
And it's not that hard to say, no, I'm not.
And it's incredibly, I hate the word, but it's true, empowering to decide that to the extent I remember, I'm not going to lie.
And we're all so prone to lying, me included.
Like they just like come out lies all of a sudden, ah, lying, we're lying.
You know, we're just like that way.
But if you try, be like, no, no, I'm going to tell the truth in the small things and the big things.
No, I think the fish was only 13 inches.
It was not a 19-inch trout.
I'm just going to be honest.
I think it was 13 inches.
I'm a trout fisherman.
If you just get in the habit of doing that, you find yourself filled with this crazy power from outside you, which is by definition supernatural power.
And you become stronger.
The more you tell the truth, the stronger you become.
But yeah, I mean, there's, I think I will say this.
There is a Christian revival underway in the United States, a low-key Christian revival.
I see it all around me.
It's not the kind of tent revival that you imagine from, you know, 1923.
It's something else.
It's a different manifestation of the same thing.
And I see it everywhere.
And by everywhere, I mean in the conversations that I have with people I'm talking to, where people who've lived totally secular lives, as I have, I've lived a very secular life, are all of a sudden referring to God or some power beyond themselves in a way that would have been really striking five years ago.
No one I knew, I mean, you're from a different world, a world that's much more in touch with the spiritual, with the transcendent, but I'm not.
I mean, I'm from a world that's in touch with like what is happening today.
And some people don't like this teaching, but it's true.
Adam had God.
He had a relationship with God.
If you look at almost every third world country where men don't feel that they are able to have economic prosperity or any romantic future, you get either revolution, gang violence, or complete disconnect.
Now, I don't want to paint like a totally negative picture because there is one really good trend, and it's not because of baby boomers, and it's not because of our leaders.
So that's a really positive trend in the midst of all this.
So that's my great hope is the spiritual hope that the young men that are lost, and if any young man is listening to this right now, like stop, stop watching porn, stop, you know, smoking weed, stop drinking endlessly, find yourself back to church.
I'm hopeful, and first, of course, in Jesus Christ, because for those that know Christ, we know how this story ends.
And we know that there's a creator and there's a divine perfector to all of this.
Everybody, it's more than just getting a reverse mortgage on your home.
It's more than buying Relief Factor.
It's about getting into the arena.
And what does that mean?
It means if you are actively not being criticized, canceled, smeared, or slandered, you are a spectator, not a participant.
We will save this country when all of us are participants in this fight.
That means that you guys can sign up and take vacation time and come to Arizona to go chase ballots for Donald Trump.
We will put you to work.
This means you guys can write letters to swing voters in key states, pleading for them to make the right decision.
This means educating your kids, homeschooling your kids, and taking them out of government schools.
This means that you're going to feed your kids and grandkids healthy food and not that highly processed garbage that is currently being put down by the big ag companies.
This means you're going to learn every single week and prioritize it.
This means you are going to be an active citizen.
And as we said it earlier, an active, informed, thoughtful, deep, and faithful citizen is the greatest threat to a tyrannical regime.