July 2, 2025 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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| Just because there was a vendetta. | ||
| There was nothing tactical about that. | ||
| Does it make you wonder? | ||
| Like, there are all these theories about bin Laden, who he was really working for. | ||
| Was he behind, actually behind 9-11? | ||
| Was that really him who you shot? | ||
| Do people ever say that to you? | ||
| Yeah, I had someone tell me it was a body double that I shot. | ||
| And my response is, well, I killed a guy that was in bed with Bin Laden's wife. | ||
| So either way, he had it coming. | ||
| But it was, oh, 100% him. | ||
| That was definitely him. | ||
| You know, even meeting the CIA people before we went, like, I was convinced because of the, especially that one woman that was, it's him. | ||
| Definitely him. | ||
| All the stuff we found, he was definitely still running Al-Qaeda. | ||
| But how the hell did he live in Pakistan for 10 years? | ||
| Had to be with the ISI. | ||
| The Intel Service had to be monitoring him. | ||
| Because I think they have vested interests in keeping Al-Qaeda a little bit at bay, which is good for everyone because you don't want Al-Qaeda getting their nuclear weapons. | ||
| But they're a massive recipient of U.S. aid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're basically our enemy? | ||
| Well, I mean, we were funding the Mujahideen in the 80s, and Bin Laden was a part of that. | ||
| Because the big enemy was the Soviet Union. | ||
| So let's fight them in Afghanistan and start pumping money in there through Pakistan. | ||
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So they've been involved forever. | |
| What was the role of opium in all this in Afghanistan? | ||
| You know, that was kind of dumb because all we're doing, I mean, heroin's bad, but you're taking away someone's livelihood. | ||
| So what are they going to do if they can't grow opium? | ||
| They're going to fight you. | ||
| They're going to be Taliban. | ||
| Why do you care? | ||
| Stop worrying about the opium. | ||
| Let them grow it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But that became a major thorn in our side because we're worried about opium. | ||
| How about we just kill the Taliban and Al-Qaeda? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| What about female literacy? | ||
| Was that a good reason to go to war? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, that's more... | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Well, I'm just saying. | ||
| You'd always hear people say, oh, the female literacy rate's got up. | ||
| And it's like, okay. | ||
| That's on them. | ||
| Take care of your own house. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| If your woman can't read, I'm not coming to shoot people over that. | ||
| So you never thought of that as you broke into someone's house. | ||
| No. | ||
| Your girls can't read. | ||
| It's almost like when it's, well, we want women to vote. | ||
| And I'm like, why? | ||
| Joking. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| I'm half joking. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| But sorry. | ||
| Were the guys, did you ever talk politics? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Because I remember I would read political books before 9-11. | ||
| Especially on the ships. | ||
| I remember reading like Sean Hannity's books. | ||
| And I read Alan Combs' book just to try to get both sides. | ||
| And that's kind of where I got my politics. | ||
| Like, well, this is crazy. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| But no one was really interested in that with me. | ||
| I couldn't get anyone to play chess either. | ||
| But yeah, I've always been political, not political, but trying to pay attention. | ||
| And I honestly believe the media was telling us the truth for a while until, again, COVID or whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't believe that anymore? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, that was a scam. | ||
| So last question on a happy note. | ||
| So you basically made the case without saying it that a lot of the flag officers, senior military leadership, not impressive. | ||
| And that's very obvious to me. | ||
| Who is the most impressive senior officer you've known? | ||
| Bill McCraven. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Admiral McCraven. | ||
| That didn't take long. | ||
| No, he always has been. | ||
| I knew him. | ||
| Can you tell people who he is? | ||
| Admiral McCraven was in charge of Joint Special Operations Command when we took the bin Laden raid. | ||
| He's the one that sold it to President Obama. | ||
| He's a SEAL Team 6 guy. | ||
| And he just, he'd always, I think he was, I think he was an admiral the whole time. | ||
| I was in the damn military. | ||
| But every time he showed up, he looked and sounded like an officer. | ||
| And the way I described, like, he looked like a SEAL. | ||
| He sounds like a SEAL. | ||
| He's really sharp. | ||
| And I shouldn't badmouth all flag officers because he's included. | ||
| He's just a badass. | ||
| He knew it. | ||
| Really good at everything. | ||
| And the way I would describe it is like, I understand why Al-Qaeda was afraid because 23 Bill McCravens just came in your house at night to get you. | ||
| And that's scary. | ||
| But just he was just sharp, sharp as a tack. | ||
| Honest? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, yeah, he's the guy. | ||
| It didn't take me a second to answer that question. | ||
| How did he get to that? | ||
| How did he become an admiral? | ||
| I don't even know how that works. | ||
| I, you know, obviously got to take command of different places. | ||
| So, you know, run a platoon at a SEAL team, run operations. | ||
| You get promoted to an executive officer, then a commanding officer, which is an 05 level. | ||
| Have a command move up to like the group level. | ||
| So you got a couple different groups and like Dev Group being one of them, SEAL team six, commander there, and then just start getting stars. | ||
| So he was the second four-star admiral ever. | ||
| I think Admiral Olson was the first one. | ||
| Great officer, too. | ||
| I was fortunate. | ||
| My SEAL officers were, for the most part, really good. | ||
| Like Jocko, he was one of my guys. | ||
| I was one of his guys. | ||
| And he was a dude that what I learned from him is I've never seen him lose control or yell. | ||
| But what he was really good at when you screw up is, man, I expected so much more out of you. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I'm never going to let you down again. | ||
| He was incredible. | ||
| He re-enlisted me in Kuwait. | ||
| And then, yeah, I've worked with some, I've been fortunate to work with really good officers. | ||
| But McCraven best. | ||
| Yeah, by far. | ||
| Rob, thank you. | ||
| Of course, thank you for having me, Tucker. | ||
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I appreciate it. | |
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