May 28, 2025 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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| You tried the other day to raise science-based questions about 9-11, and you asked, Building 7 was never hit by a plane. | ||
| Why did it fall down in exactly the same way the first two towers did? | ||
| 156 witnesses, you know, first responders, saying they heard explosions before the buildings came down. | ||
| There was never a steel building that ever collapsed because of a fire. | ||
| The vaccine injured. | ||
| So these would be American citizens who obeyed their government and took. | ||
| To date, worldwide, there's over 38,000 deaths associated with COVID vaccine. | ||
| 24% of those to date either occur on the date of vaccination or within one or two days. | ||
| We're right now burning about a half a trillion dollars a quarter just to get us by into next year. | ||
| That should shock everybody. | ||
| That's my whole purpose here. | ||
| We haven't talked about the numbers. | ||
| We haven't put this in context of the big mess we're in. | ||
| Deep hole we've dug ourselves. | ||
| And I'm just going to force that debate. | ||
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I'm just going to force that debate. | |
| So you told me something that made me laugh at breakfast in a dark way. | ||
| Which is that very few of the people you work with, your colleagues, whose job it is to appropriate money to run the U.S. government, have any idea how much they're appropriating. | ||
| They don't know what the numbers are. | ||
| Can you walk us through a description of the ignorance of Congress when it comes to numbers? | ||
| So you got me through my colleagues under the bus. | ||
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No, it was just like... | |
| Of the dollars they appropriate, they know that. | ||
| But that's only 25% of the budget. | ||
| The story I told you at breakfast is a couple years ago. | ||
| This was after the COVID spending spree, but we continued on that spending spree. | ||
| We were in the midst of an omnibus spending debate. | ||
| And this is where McConnell was doing a deal with Schumer on a massive omnibus spending bill. | ||
| We're going to violate, for the first time, our conference's position on earmarks. | ||
| You know, our conference's position is we do not accept earmarks. | ||
| All of a sudden, the Republican Senate is going to be accepting earmarks. | ||
| So, I got up in front of the group. | ||
| I'm generally the skunk in the room or, you know, the kid who says the emperor has no clothes. | ||
| I just asked my colleagues, hey, anybody know how much we spent last year in total? | ||
| Dead silence. | ||
| I went out to the Washington Press Corps. | ||
| By which you meant what we spent last year. | ||
| The federal government. | ||
| What the federal government spent in total. | ||
| Just the bottom line number. | ||
| If anybody knew, they didn't volunteer. | ||
| And I went out to the Washington Press Corps. | ||
| Asked them the same question. | ||
| And one of the reporters said, well, it's over a trillion dollars. | ||
| Now, that's just discretionary spending. | ||
| That's about 25% of the budget. | ||
| I mean, total spending. | ||
| The answer is, I think, $6.3 trillion. | ||
| Understand, the federal government is the largest financial entity in the world. | ||
| We, in theory, are the 535 members of the board of directors. | ||
| And nobody really knows in total how much the federal government spent because we never talk about it. | ||
| And as that relates to the current... | ||
| But that's how it's been set up. | ||
| Discretionary, which we appropriate, and then mandatory. | ||
| That just gets spent. | ||
| It's on automatic pilot. | ||
| So it's out of sight, it's out of mind, and it's completely out of control. | ||
| May I ask how that works? | ||
| So I thought the Constitution gave the Congress the responsibility, the duty to appropriate the money. | ||
| So Congress has written laws like the Social Security law, then Medicare and Medicaid, and they've turned, they call those entitlements. | ||
| So they're not annually appropriated. | ||
| It's just you set up a law saying if you qualify, you get X number of dollars. | ||
| So it's on automatic pilot. | ||
| And there's no cap on that spending? | ||
| No, none. | ||
| You qualify, you get it. | ||
| So whatever it takes. | ||
| What has happened over the years is in addition to Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid, they've slid what should be, in my mind, discretionary spending into mandatory. | ||
| And so, I'm the guy that pointed out the conference again. | ||
| Do you guys realize in 2019, other mandatory, again, not Social Security, not Medicare, not Medicaid, other mandatory, pretty well runs the gamut of other appropriation accounts. | ||
| That was $642 billion. | ||
| Last year, fiscal year 2024, that was $1.3 trillion. | ||
| This year, it's a little over a trillion. | ||
| And that's pretty much, as far as the eye can see, according to CBO, a trillion dollars. | ||
| Again, total discretionary spending is about 1.7, but they've literally slid about a trillion dollars now ongoing of other mandatory or what should be discretionary into what they call now other mandatory. | ||
| A trillion dollars. | ||
| And I don't think anybody was really aware of that either. | ||
| So, what's right now for 2025, or let's say 2024, What did the federal government spend total? | ||
| So in 2019, total federal government spending was $4.4 trillion. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This year we will spend over $7 trillion. | ||
| I remember somewhere around during the Obama administration, about when I got elected, 2010-2011, we had our first trillion-dollar-a-year deficit in 2009. | ||
| I think it was $1.4 trillion. | ||
| And we stopped talking about hundreds of billions, which used to move the needle. | ||
| To now trillions. | ||
| You know, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, it just doesn't seem that much. | ||
| $4,400 billion spent in 2019. | ||
| $7,000 billion spent this year. | ||
| Projected to spend $7,300 billion next year. | ||
| And now let's kind of bring this back to the debate that we're talking about on the One Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
| Wait, may I ask just one more bottom line number? | ||
| Okay, so we're going to spend over $7 trillion this year. | ||
| How much do we take in in tax receipts every year? | ||
| About 5.1. | ||
| So, we've got a structural deficit of around 6% right now, CBO's projecting over the next 10 years. | ||
| 6%. | ||
| So, federal revenue will be, according to CBO, 18.1, even though it's about 17.1, but they're projecting that we're going to have an automatic tax increase next year, so they bumped that to 18.1. | ||
| And federal spending is going to be about 23.4, 23.5%. | ||
| So, that deficit spending, where does that money come from? | ||
| Borrow it or reprint it. | ||
| By the way, put this in an even better historical context. | ||
| In 1930, less than 100 years ago, the federal government spent 3.1% of our GDP. | ||
| State and local governments back then spent 9.1%. | ||
| So that was pretty much the vision of our founding fathers A limited federal government You know, within the constraints of the enumerated powers And most governing at the You know, we've blown that up. | ||
| Now the federal government's spending close to 24%. | ||
| State and local governments are over 16%. | ||
| So now total government spending is about 40%. | ||
| It's three times what it was back less than 100 years ago. | ||
| And I would argue, as government grows... | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because government has more claim on your income, or they borrow money, which causes inflation, which is a silent tax. | ||
| Do we have any sense of what percentage of the American population, 350 million or whatever it is in that range, are net receivers? | ||
| get more from government than they pay in. | ||
| My guess is it's more than 50%. | ||
| And of course, that's the death knell of a democracy is when... | ||
| And what they don't realize, the expenses, it's costing them all because the massive deficit spending, because we're not taking enough revenue to cover the expenditures. | ||
| That's what has eroded the value of our dollar. | ||
| That's what caused 40-year high inflation. | ||
| And that hurts everybody. | ||
| So you think that most at this point. | ||
| Again, I shouldn't even say because I haven't checked that figure. | ||
| My guess is probably more than 50%. | ||
| When you consider all the entitlements, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and people say, oh, that's my money. | ||
| Well, in some cases it is. | ||
| Most people probably get more out of Social Security than they actually did put in. | ||
| Certainly do that out of Medicare. | ||
| Certainly out of Medicaid, nobody puts any money into that. | ||
| That all comes out of the general funds. | ||
| So we have food stamps. | ||
| We have all these trillions of dollars worth of transfer payments. | ||
| Why is this not sustainable? | ||
| You often hear it's not sustainable. | ||
| What happens if it continues? | ||
| Well, again, when I ran in 2010, we just experienced our first We were spending about $3.5 trillion a year. | ||
| 3.5. | ||
| So it's more than double just since 2010? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We were $14 trillion in debt. | ||
| I remember I announced in April of 2010, started my campaign in basically June of 2010, doing parades. | ||
| And what I would shout is, this is a fight for freedom. | ||
| We're mortgaging our children's future. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| It's immoral. | ||
| It has to stop. | ||
| That was my campaign theme. | ||
| Again, we were $14 trillion in debt, spending $3.5 trillion. | ||
| Now, we're almost $37 trillion in debt. | ||
| We're spending $7,000 billion, $7 trillion. | ||
| And CBO projects over the next 10 years, we will add another $22 trillion to the debt. | ||
| That's what our projected debt. | ||
| Again, that's assuming about a $4 trillion increase because taxes are scheduled to automatically increase. | ||
| If those taxes don't increase, first of all, I'm not sure you get the full $4 trillion, but again, take $4 trillion away if we extend current tax law, which is I'm in favor of that. | ||
| I don't want to increase anybody's taxes. | ||
| But I don't think this is necessarily time to... | ||
| But anyway, so we are projecting deficits for the next 10 years of a minimum of $2.2 trillion, and I would argue that is a rosy scenario. | ||
| And particularly when you take a look at what they've done with the one big beautiful bill, they're not seriously reducing spending to what I've been calling for as a pre-pandemic level. | ||
| Again, The danger of spouting out too many numbers here, I just want to put this in perspective. | ||
| President Obama, over the course of his eight years, his average deficit was $910 billion. | ||
| Over the last, and I want to quick do this so I'm accurate, over the last four years of his administration, it was about $550 billion. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So, half a trillion dollar deficit over his last four years. | ||
| President Trump came into office in his first three years, the average deficit was about $800 billion. | ||
| So he bumped up Obama's four-year average from $550 to $800. | ||
| Then COVID hit and we had a deficit of $3.1 trillion just that one year. | ||
| Now, what we should have done in 2020, the pandemic was over. | ||
| We didn't have to keep... | ||
| Normal unemployment, somewhere between five and six. | ||
| But within a few months, it was around 11 and then returned to pretty much normal early in 2021. | ||
| We didn't have to keep stimulating the economy. | ||
| But Biden did. | ||
| Biden averaged $1.9 trillion per year in deficit. | ||
| So Obama, when he left his last four years, Trump, before the pandemic, a little more than $800 billion per year. | ||
| Biden, in his four years, went up to $1.9 trillion. | ||
| And now CBO is projecting, and again, a rosy scenario, that we'll be averaging $2.2 trillion over the next 10 years. | ||
| We'll take our debt from $37 trillion up to $59 trillion. | ||
| And if we... | ||
| Take away $4 trillion in revenue, roughly. | ||
| Add another $4 trillion. | ||
| The spending cuts they're talking about, they're paltry. | ||
| $1.5 trillion, some of those are fake. | ||
| Some of those are extended way out. | ||
| How far out? | ||
| 10 years. | ||
| 10 years? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we'll spend the money up front for the border, for defense. | ||
| So that also... | ||
| So at most, we're maybe cutting spending $1.2 trillion. | ||
| Part of that, a few hundred billion, I think, is student loan forgiveness, which the Supreme Court will probably rule unconstitutional. | ||
| We're not going to spend it anyway, but they count that as savings. | ||
| So much of the savings they're talking about in the one big beautiful bill is phony. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| Or it's in the out years where if Republicans lose power, Democrats will just restore it. | ||
| But no matter how you slice it, from my standpoint, CBO's $22 trillion of 10-year deficit is a rosy scenario. | ||
| It'll probably be more than that. | ||
| And what happens then is what's happening right now in the bond market. | ||
| Interest rates are creeping up. | ||
| You can't control that. | ||
| If global creditors look at the United States as uncreditworthy, our 50-year average interest payment that we've paid on our debt is over 5%. | ||
| So I think it's as high as 5.8. | ||
| Not the most exact figure. | ||
| But right now we're borrowing probably about 3.3%. | ||
| That's been the average over the last 25 years, 3.3%. | ||
| And that's kind of where we're at right now. | ||
| If we increased that interest, if that interest expense increases to, or rate increases to 4.3%, add another $4 trillion in deficit spending. | ||
| If it goes up to the 50-year average of 5.3, add about $8 or $9 trillion to the $22 trillion. | ||
| So again, you go $22 trillion. | ||
| Plus, extending current tax law, add another close to $4 trillion. | ||
| If interest rates start creeping up, and they are, just one percentage point, add another $4 trillion. | ||
| So you can see very quickly, you go from $22 to $26 to $30 trillion, add down to $37 trillion, we're up to $67 trillion in debt. | ||
| I don't think we'd ever hit that. | ||
| I think something's going to happen. | ||
| We'll have a debt crisis. | ||
| We'll have failure in our bond auctions. | ||
| Spiking interest rates even more. | ||
| And again, we're spending more on interest this year than we spend on defense. | ||
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| You often hear the phrase debt crisis. | ||
| What does that mean exactly? | ||
| What would that look like? | ||
| Depends whether it's a chronic or an acute crisis. | ||
| I'd say we're already in a chronic debt crisis. | ||
| That is what I would consider the devaluation of the dollar. | ||
| I laid out, we talked about this, my pre-pandemic options, going back to 98, 2014, 2019. | ||
| So a dollar you held in 1998, It's only worth 51 cents a day. | ||
| Ouch. | ||
| It's devalued that much? | ||
| It's been cut in half. | ||
| When I ran in 2010, that dollar is worth about 68 cents. | ||
| A dollar you held during Obama in 2014 is worth 74 cents. | ||
| A dollar you held just in 2019 is only worth 80 cents. | ||
| So again, that is the devaluation of the dollar. | ||
| That's inflation. | ||
| This is why everything is so expensive. | ||
| Yeah, that's a silent tax. | ||
| That's how you spend $300 at dinner, and you're like, I didn't even get drunk. | ||
| Like, how did that happen? | ||
| That's the effect. | ||
| Yeah, and that's why you had 40-year high inflation. | ||
| So that way I would consider the chronic debt crisis. | ||
| It just continues. | ||
| And it's the danger. | ||
| We have not tamed inflation yet. | ||
| We've tamed it, but we haven't conquered it. | ||
| So I think that's always on the horizon, particularly if we continue deficit spend. | ||
| Particularly if the bond markets continue to react as they are, keep driving interest rates up higher, and you start increasing the amount of interest expense, crowding out other spending. | ||
| So an acute debt crisis would be where you have a bond market failure. | ||
| And like what happened in Greece, all of a sudden you can't sell your debt. | ||
| So you either print the money, which sparks another round of 40, 50-year high inflation, devaluing the currency rapidly. | ||
| You know, we're not necessarily immune to hyperinflation. | ||
| Other countries have experienced it. | ||
| So, failure to sell your debt in a bond auction, what does that look like? | ||
| You just put out your bonds and nobody wants them? | ||
| Nobody buys them. | ||
| And so, again, the advantage the U.S. has over any other country is we are the world's reserve currency. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we can print dollars. | ||
| So we can get by that moment, except for you're printing dollars, and inflation's pretty easy to define. | ||
| It's too many dollars chasing too few goods. | ||
| So you just print all those dollars, and again, the dollar devalues. | ||
| The cost of your debt is lowered. | ||
| Again, it's a silent way of addressing these massive deficits. | ||
| How far away from a moment like that are we? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I would have thought we would have experienced it by now, but we've experienced it instead as, again, 40-year high inflation, the devaluation of the currency. | ||
| I mean, I think that's pretty shocking when you take a look at that. | ||
| It's a dollar just 11 years ago. | ||
| It was only worth 74 cents. | ||
| You know, six years, it's only worth 80 cents. | ||
| That's an amazing level of devaluation. | ||
| Now, it's not even close to hyperinflation where, you know, You've got inflation rates of hundreds of percent. | ||
| So when that crisis comes, what do you do? | ||
| Well, you have a great deal of turmoil in your society. | ||
| It won't be pleasant. | ||
| It's what we need to try and avoid. | ||
| And by the way, why I'm not in a full-blown panic, people like Art Laffer, economist of the Laffer curve, he does correctly point out, America has enormous wealth. | ||
| I mean, hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of wealth. | ||
| So $37 trillion in relationship to hundreds of trillion dollars worth of wealth, that's manageable. | ||
| It's just like if you're a billionaire but you don't work, you can have some pretty large mortgages on homes, but... | ||
| I mean, it's not irrelevant debt-to-GDP ratio, and we do have massive wealth, but we need to manage the cash flow problem here, too, as well as just the pernicious impact of all these transfer payments. | ||
| Providing encouragement for people not to work. | ||
| There's a great article written, I think, in 2017 by Nick Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Institute, our miserable 21st century, talking about how 20% of working-age men are permanently out of the workforce, on Medicaid, using the Medicaid card to buy opiate drugs to help finance their living. | ||
| All kinds, all those pernicious impacts of a society where we're living. | ||
| We actually incentivize them not to. | ||
| To my mind, that's one of the biggest problems we have with a big welfare. | ||
| And you need mass immigration to fill the gap. | ||
| Yeah, somebody's got to do the work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, we were talking earlier when I first entered this political realm, going to dairy breakfast, the first issue I heard in Wisconsin was, you know, we don't have enough workers. | ||
| Now, I come from a manufacturing background where for 20 years. | ||
| Which is why I always kind of scratch my head. | ||
| Listen, there are certainly products that we have offshored that we need to reshore. | ||
| You know, things that are strategic, that impact our national security. | ||
| But right now, I think our biggest problem is we don't have enough workers. | ||
| If you bring all this manufacturing back to America, who's going to work the factories? | ||
| And we certainly shouldn't be bringing back high labor content product. | ||
| I think you need to diversify your supply base. | ||
| You can't be so dependent on an adversary like China. | ||
| Spread it around. | ||
| That would reduce your risk. | ||
| So, what you're saying, like the numbers you're describing are the bottom line numbers. | ||
| This is not like higher math. | ||
| This should be obvious to everybody. | ||
| What's the reaction been? | ||
| Well, they just ignore it. | ||
| Again, one of the reasons I'm digging my heels in is the... | ||
| The only number you heard about in the whole House debate here was $1.5 trillion, which sounds like a lot, right? | ||
| I mean, $1.5 trillion in spending reduction. | ||
| And, of course, they're focusing on programs like Medicaid. | ||
| The main problem with that is Obamacare, which is now called Medicaid expansion, along states to gain the system, putting at risk Medicaid for the truly vulnerable. | ||
| But that's all you really heard about. | ||
| You don't ever put that in context. | ||
| $1.5 trillion compared to $89 trillion spending over the next 10 years, it's barely a rounding error. | ||
| We haven't been talking about the massive annual deficits. | ||
| We don't talk about the debt. | ||
| When you were describing the progression of debt accumulation, it feels like it's been really rapid in a short period of time. | ||
| Like, the federal government's spending almost twice what it was just the other day. | ||
| Where's all that money going? | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Well, again, it was really sparked by the pandemic. | ||
| Yeah, I'll give the Tea Party movement a fair amount of credit. | ||
| You know, I ran because we were Mortgage Energy Kids Future. | ||
| We were running deficits for, you know, I think three years in a row, over a trillion dollars. | ||
| But once we got to town in 2011, we started having these budget debates. | ||
| We had divided government. | ||
| Obama didn't get everything he wanted. | ||
| We did something called the Budget Control Act, which literally reduced discretionary spending for three years in a row until we learned how to weasel around it. | ||
| So we pretty well flattened out federal government spending at about $3.5 trillion for five or six or seven years. | ||
| And then the last couple of years of the Obama administration started creeping up. | ||
| And then under Trump, it went from about $4 trillion to $4.1 to $4.4. | ||
| And then it went to $6.5, and we've never looked back. | ||
| And the analogy I use there is, I don't know of an American family, if they had an illness and they had to borrow $50,000 to pay for the medical bills, if that family member got well, you wouldn't keep borrowing $50,000 and spend at that level. | ||
| but that's exactly what we've done. | ||
| And like nobody, It doesn't seem radical. | ||
| And I've laid out options, you know, Clinton, Obama, Trump. | ||
| The COVID pandemic, this was just like a couple years ago. | ||
| So, I mean, what Biden should have done, we overspent in 2020. | ||
| When we first were talking about that CARES Act, it was like $750 billion, which, you know, I knew we had to do something fast and massive so markets wouldn't collapse. | ||
| Within like a week or two, that went up to like $2.2 trillion. | ||
| We sent out direct payment checks to 166 million Americans three times way late, way after unemployment had already returned from the 25 million person high. | ||
| Again, 25 million people unemployed when normally you're at five or six. | ||
| We sent out direct payment checks to 166 million Americans three times. | ||
| So we way overspent even in 2020. | ||
| So you had trillions of dollars sloshing around the economy as you come into 2021. | ||
| The economy is coming roaring back because you have all this pent-up demand and all these dollars sloshing around. | ||
| The last thing you should have done is add more fuel to the fire. | ||
| That's what Biden and Democrats did. | ||
| Again, on average, $1.9 trillion of deficit spending over the next four years. | ||
| We never came down off of that $6.5 trillion, a little bit, $6.2, $6.3, but then started going back up again. | ||
| And that's really the moment, that's when a bass boat suddenly cost $100,000, or your car cost $90,000, you know, brand new Suburban is $80,000 or whatever. | ||
| That's when the country became obviously unaffordable, I think, unless I misremember. | ||
| Yeah, or your meal deal at McDonald's all of a sudden jumped from $5 to $10. | ||
| When did that happen? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't understand why there's no will to fix that. | ||
| I mean, that seems like pretty basic macroeconomics in the Congress. | ||
| I haven't heard McConnell say this, but I've heard the quote attributed to him, and this is the one thing I agree with him on. | ||
| Show me one member of Congress who ever lost because they spent too much money. | ||
| There just isn't public pressure. | ||
| There's not public awareness. | ||
| We don't educate. | ||
| Our young people, the news media doesn't connect the dots. | ||
| Why people can't afford things is because of massive deaths of spending, which sparked 40-year high inflation, devalued the dollar. | ||
| I mean, to me, it's pretty obvious. | ||
| But normal Americans, they just get all surly about it. | ||
| Okay, well then, let's meditate for a moment on the consequences of it. | ||
| I asked, what happens when there's a debt crisis? | ||
| Why haven't we had one yet? | ||
| You said, we probably should have had one. | ||
| I don't know why we haven't, but we're going to get one if we keep doing this. | ||
| I said, what will the effect of that be? | ||
| You said, massive instability in the society. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like, what will that look like? | ||
| Maybe it would awaken people to the threat if they knew what would happen in a debt crisis. | ||
| Well, so if you're living on different transfer payments or different types of welfare benefits, you may not get those. | ||
| You know, you can't borrow more money, so you're going to have to take what money we spend on other government programs and we'll have to service our debt. | ||
| You have to pay it off. | ||
| Unless we want to go into full default. | ||
| And that's where you just say to Japan and China and Germany and everyone else who's bought those bonds, like, we're not paying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| which means you'll never float more debt. | ||
| So you can't, you know, other than print more money, which then... | ||
| Has anyone ever defaulted, any country ever defaulted on debt and just said, we're not paying, come and get it? | ||
| Oh, I'm sure they have. | ||
| But that's not common. | ||
| I think it happens enough. | ||
| But what always happens is, you know, countries like the U.S. go in there and we help them restructure their debt. | ||
| I think that's happened numerous times. | ||
| But no one's going to come and help us restructure our debt. | ||
| Nobody can. | ||
| Again, we will lose our position of the world's reserve currency and we'll lose our ability to print dollars that people accept. | ||
| I mean, it's a marvelous thing that we just print dollars, we can send them overseas, and people will produce products and ship them over here, high-quality products at pretty low cost. | ||
| I think it's one of the reasons we've been able to keep inflation in check, producing all these massive deficits over the last couple decades, because we do import a lot of products. | ||
| You know, billions of people either un or underemployed around the world. | ||
| We provide the capital. | ||
| You know, they produce the factories, they produce the goods, and then we just give them, you know, paper. | ||
| It's fiat currency. | ||
| You know, we print it, we keep printing it, and it's been working out pretty well. | ||
| At some point in time, that gravy train might stop. | ||
| And then, I mean, then you have like a total collapse of the current system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Again, I can't predict. | ||
| I'm trying to avoid it. | ||
| It'll be painful. | ||
| And who really suffers are people at the lower end of the income spectrum that have no safety net. | ||
| They don't have any kind of hard assets that will inflate with inflation. | ||
| They just be destitute. | ||
| A lot of them. | ||
| In a country that has no kind of organizing principle or national identity where people are not as united as they were in, say, 1929. | ||
| Com staff put together a video. | ||
| I asked them to find all these Republican leaders that have, you know, talked about balancing the budget. | ||
| You know, we have a spending problem. | ||
| It starts out with President Trump saying in the State of the Union, I'm going to do something we haven't done in 24 years, balance the federal budget. | ||
| Then every Republican leader, some form of, we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. | ||
| In those clips, we have Elon Musk saying, if we don't fix this, There won't be money left over for anything. | ||
| And I think that's a pretty accurate statement. | ||
| So how many people can you really trust? | ||
| Well, if you think about it, probably not that many. | ||
| Let's say you've got 20,000 Instagram followers. | ||
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| Maybe about eight. | ||
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| Does this bill get us closer to fixing it? | ||
| No, it exacerbates the problem. | ||
| How could that be? | ||
| Because we're not serious about returning to a reasonable pre-pandemic global spending. | ||
| We've picked a number out of the air, $1.5 trillion. | ||
| It's totally out of context. | ||
| It's not really related to the moment. | ||
| It's missing the moment. | ||
| Can I ask you, who came up with that number? | ||
| Whose lie is that? | ||
| I think my best guess is conservatives in the House, who I love, didn't want to be blamed if this thing failed. | ||
| So they said, well, listen, in order for us to accept a $5 trillion increase in the debt ceiling, we've got to get at least $1.5 trillion in savings, spending cuts. | ||
| I don't think they were looking at the big picture. | ||
| I think they just pulled a big... | ||
| I said, listen, you set the bar way too low, you guys. | ||
| This is completely inadequate. | ||
| They set the bar way too low that it should have been easy to meet it, quite honestly. | ||
| But even that was difficult because they didn't go through what I would consider the right kind of process. | ||
| So maybe we can shift in terms of what we have to do, what I'm trying to accomplish here, and my digging my heels in. | ||
| Doge has kind of shown us what we can do here. | ||
| We've never had a process to control spending in the federal government. | ||
| We don't have a balanced budget requirement. | ||
| I didn't realize this, just found out. | ||
| Do you know they established the appropriation committees because the authorizing committees were big spenders? | ||
| So the appropriation committees were supposed to be the control on the big spenders. | ||
| Well, that didn't work. | ||
| The Budget Control Act of 1974 didn't work. | ||
| Simpson-Bowles didn't work. | ||
| The Budget Control Act didn't work. | ||
| It did for three years, but then we weaseled our way around it. | ||
| So what process could possibly work to control spending? | ||
| Well, first of all, you have to know the numbers. | ||
| You have to understand what a deep hole we're in and have a commitment to address it. | ||
| But DOGE has pretty well shown us how to do it. | ||
| I come from the private sector. | ||
| I think I probably spent more time either analyzing my department head budgets or my own overall company budget than Congress in total spends analyzing the $7,000 billion budget of the federal government. | ||
| So Dozier's shown is if you go... | ||
| If you eliminated it, my guess is most Americans wouldn't even know it's eliminated, but the only people that would know would be the grifters who have been sucking down the waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
| The NGO community. | ||
| So you have to go step by step. | ||
| So that's why I've always been supportive of multiple steps. | ||
| Reconciliation process here. | ||
| I was always recommending three steps. | ||
| First step, give President Trump the funding on the border. | ||
| Defense, bank, $850 billion of real savings, not make-believe, you know, now. | ||
| And Lindsey Graham agreed to this, $85.5 billion each year for four years to pay for the four years' worth of spending. | ||
| And then extend that out 10 years, that gives you 850. | ||
| That's more than half of what the House budget reconciliation can do. | ||
| Second step, I would just extend current tax law. | ||
| If we would have been smart enough in 2017, had somebody like Chairman Crapo who really came up with this idea of let's just use current policy for taxes. | ||
| Then we can make this stuff permanent. | ||
| You should never pass, in my mind, a tax law that automatically expires. | ||
| Just creates all these fiscal cliffs and puts all kinds of uncertainty in the economy. | ||
| Why do they do that? | ||
| Because we... | ||
| For taxes, though, we use current law. | ||
| So if the tax cuts are ending and you want to extend them, well, you're scoring them the fact that they are going to end, so now to extend them, it's going to be a trillion-dollar score. | ||
| So then you've got to pay for it, and it's hard to pay for it. | ||
| And so that's how it was all scored back in 2017, where if we would just use current policy, if we use current policy now, we can just extend current tax law, and there's no score. | ||
| So that's really what we're doing now. | ||
| But we have to recognize when you're comparing to the CBO budget, CBO budgets is assuming it does, taxes do increase and bring in about another $4 trillion worth of revenue. | ||
| So that's why I say the $22 trillion in revenue. | ||
| I mean, it seems like the core problems are just so familiar. | ||
| One is short-term thinking, and the second is the misplaced belief that you can see what the future will be. | ||
| And both of those are, like, silly and unwise. | ||
| Maybe, are we bumping up against the inherent limits of the system? | ||
| Well, I would say we're missing the focusing on the right thing. | ||
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We had to focus on spending. | |
| And the reason I say that is spending is pretty certain. | ||
| Again, who knows what revenue you're going to bring in? | ||
| It's hard to predict. | ||
| Spending, that's pretty easy to predict what that's going to be. | ||
| Plus, I personally voted for President Trump because I wanted him to defeat the deep state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't defeat the deep state by continuing to fund it at Biden's levels. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So again, when you start talking about the, That keeps funding the deep state. | ||
| You have to focus on spending. | ||
| And we've just gone through an unprecedented level of increased spending, other than World War II. | ||
| Just a quick aside on that. | ||
| We entered World War II spending 11.7% of our economy, of GDP on federal government, 11.7%. | ||
| That got ramped up to 41% during the war. | ||
| But by 1948, because we had responsible leaders, you know, the greatest generation, that actually went down to 11.4% of GDP. | ||
| And we returned to a pre-war level spending. | ||
| And we had a massive recession, too. | ||
| I mean, you know, the war's over. | ||
| Let's return to a reasonable pre-war level spending. | ||
| We didn't do that during the pandemic. | ||
| And that's what we have to do. | ||
| We have to focus on doing it. | ||
| It's such a reasonable thing to do. | ||
| It should have been done in 2021. | ||
| We didn't do it for four years, but now we're just pretty well accepting that. | ||
| We're accepting... | ||
| But now we're all okay with it. | ||
| Now we're not going to touch that because they renamed it. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| But this is how it works. | ||
| Like in 20 years, we'll be like, well, of course you have to protect trans kids. | ||
| You know, what seems crazy at first becomes accepted and then it becomes the hill to die on. | ||
| So again, I'm trying to force the discussion over the real numbers, okay? | ||
| And again, $1.5 trillion in abstract seems like a lot, but we've really ramped up from 2019 to this year. | ||
| That's over 10 years. | ||
| That's $29 trillion of increased spending over 10 years. | ||
| 29 trillion. | ||
| And we're talking about Yeah, it's a joke. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| Because people don't want to cut it out. | ||
| And so I guess that's my question. | ||
| You said that the problem with democracy is once the majority figures out they can just steal money, then you're just headed to the cliff and there's no pulling back. | ||
| Are we there? | ||
| Well, again, they're not stealing it. | ||
| They just don't realize that how it's financed is by printing money. | ||
| And they can't afford things because of that. | ||
| Well, if you're taking other people's money at the point of a gun, it's called theft. | ||
| Yeah, they try and tax it, but we're not taxing anywhere near enough. | ||
| Right, no, right. | ||
| So we're going to have to borrow $2.2 trillion for the next 10 years, every year. | ||
| At least. | ||
| But that's effectively a tax because it devalues the money in your pocket. | ||
| So you're basically paying $10 for a Big Mac and a Coke. | ||
| Yeah, inflation is a silent tax. | ||
| It's really nasty. | ||
| Do you have any hope? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| The world's greatest optimist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, how can you be? | ||
| I fear we've passed the point of no return. | ||
| The reason I'm digging my heels, and Tucker, I don't want to. | ||
| I bet you don't. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I mean, I'm not looking for it. | ||
| Listen, I love what President Trump is doing. | ||
| He is such a unique individual, unique political figure, unique president. | ||
| He is doing things that only he would do. | ||
| Nobody else would do it. | ||
| And it's things that have to be done. | ||
| Okay, so I'm so supportive of most of what he's doing. | ||
| But this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity here. | ||
| We've never had such an unprecedented level of spending. | ||
| Returning to a reasonable level is just so common sense and not that hard. | ||
| It's not going to be easy. | ||
| But what I've done in laying out those pre-pandemic options, go back to Bill Clinton. | ||
| 1998, when we actually had a surplus for the first time in 1969. | ||
| I don't think we spent too little in 1969 or 1998. | ||
| Obama in 2014 or Trump in 2019. | ||
| There are three options. | ||
| Leave Social Security, Medicare, and interest as they are. | ||
| Spend what you need to spend. | ||
| But for all the other outlays, you just increase them based on population growth and inflation. | ||
| A very reasonable control, right? | ||
| You end up somewhere between $5.5 and $6.5 trillion. | ||
| Now, I would go back to Clinton. | ||
| Recognizing that 9-11 happened after that, so you probably have to plus up defense, although I'd like to hone how we spend our defense dollars. | ||
| I think we talked about that earlier. | ||
| I don't think we spend them well. | ||
| But somewhere between $5.5 and $6.5 trillion. | ||
| And then I've printed out the budgets, a couple thousand lines, and then go through those budgets line by line and just ask the question, well, this is what Clinton was spending, fully inflated. | ||
| Why are we spending this much more? | ||
| Or this is what Obama spent. | ||
| Or Trump. | ||
| Why is it so much more? | ||
| Explain yourself. | ||
| Like I said, in business, this would be simple. | ||
| I'd tell my manager that I said you could increase your budgets based on inflation and the number of customers you serve. | ||
| You're 10% above that. | ||
| Cut it. | ||
| Kind of like, I don't care how you do it. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| Get back down to that level. | ||
| Do it so it doesn't harm our business, so it doesn't harm people's lives. | ||
| Just do it, because what we were spending 1998, 2014, 2019, I think was probably pretty adequate. | ||
| And by the way, if you go through it line by line, there will be lines I think you look at, scratch your head and go, we probably shouldn't be spending anything on that. | ||
| I think Doge has taught us that. | ||
| So again, Trump, again, I think that was brilliant, what Trump and Elon did with Doge. | ||
| But we haven't realized those savings yet. | ||
| I think we stopped spending on contracts, but unless we set up and pass a rescission package on the discretionary end, unless we take whatever they discovered in mandatory and eliminate that through the reconciliation process, those monies will just be sitting out there unobligated, and some Democrat Congress and some Democrat president will spend it without even having to appropriate it. | ||
| Can I ask about the defense budget? | ||
| We never have. | ||
| We're separated from the rest of the world by two large oceans. | ||
| Our standing force is not that huge, actually. | ||
| It's not like all that money is going to pay for soldiers and Marines and airmen. | ||
| Why are we spending that much on defense? | ||
| We haven't won a war in 80 years. | ||
| So like, I'm a little, and I know that all Republicans are required to, Defense spending is just by its nature inherently good. | ||
| But what is that? | ||
| What's all that money going to exactly? | ||
| We did not heed Eisenhower's warning. | ||
| I think the military-industrial complex has way too much power. | ||
| I would love, and we should do this, is we should go back, at least as far back as Vietnam, and analyze each one of these foreign entanglements, each of these foreign wars. | ||
| And ask ourselves and gather some basic information. | ||
| First, what was our goal going in? | ||
| Secondly, you know, what did it cost in human life, ours, and our adversary, our enemies? | ||
| What did it cost in terms of dollars? | ||
| And then the final question is, did we accomplish the objective? | ||
| I think if you do that, and I hate to say this because it's true. | ||
| I mean, this is… Yeah. | ||
| The finest among us. | ||
| Well, I agree with that. | ||
| People who love this country, who've stepped up the plate, willing to serve and sacrifice more than a million, have paid the ultimate price. | ||
| So I don't even like saying this, but the fact of the matter is, if you did that kind of analysis, you wouldn't walk away very satisfied. | ||
| Well, but doesn't our respect for the men who died in military service require us to do that? | ||
| I think it does. | ||
| So if you were to do that, I was just recently in Hanoi a couple years ago. | ||
| What wonderful people. | ||
| They love Americans. | ||
| They love America because they're an entrepreneur. | ||
| They're hardworking. | ||
| They want, like most people in the world, they want what we have. | ||
| They respect the values of America, the principles of freedom, individual liberty. | ||
| We never should have been to war with them. | ||
| We never should have bombed those people. | ||
| But follow it all the way through. | ||
| Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. | ||
| I mean, what have we accomplished with the Ukraine war right now? | ||
| We have actually solidified the relationship between Russia and China and North Korea and Iran. | ||
| That's completely opposite of what our goals ought to be. | ||
| So it's just not working. | ||
| I mean, we have not accomplished these goals. | ||
| They've been miserable failures. | ||
| How many people died in Iraq? | ||
| Based on that, false intelligence. | ||
| The best book I read on Afghanistan is written by special ops folks, and they basically made the point that we'd pretty well accomplish what we need to accomplish in Afghanistan before Tommy Frank ever put a boot on the ground. | ||
| We said, hey, listen, you guys harbored Al-Qaeda. | ||
| Don't do it anymore. | ||
| Kind of punish the Taliban, and that's probably where we should have left that. | ||
| How many Americans lost their lives? | ||
| How many? | ||
| You know, Afghanistan citizens lost their lives. | ||
| What did that cost? | ||
| Again, it's almost incalculable. | ||
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| Well, given all of that, and given that no one has ever been punished, no high-ranking military officer I'm aware of has ever been punished for any of these failures. | ||
| The withdrawal from Afghanistan was humiliating and costly, and it was just a disaster in every way. | ||
| And the only guy who's punished is Stu Schiller, who's a Marine officer, who points out that it wasn't a success. | ||
| But the architects were rewarded. | ||
| So given all of that, why are we sending these people? | ||
| Even more money. | ||
| Again, it's the military-industrial complex. | ||
| And, you know, there's some just basic metrics people use, like percent of GDP spending on defense. | ||
| We're kind of a low level, and we should be, you know, we should be, I mean, we've got right now, you know, Chairman of the Armed Services Committee, McConnell, they want to dedicate 5% of GDP to defense. | ||
| So where are you going to get that money? | ||
| I mean, I realize we're kind of down at historic low levels, but it's still a trillion dollars. | ||
| Where are we spending it? | ||
| That's why I would have loved to have seen somebody like Eric Prince, who wrote an excellent article, Too Big to Win, become Defense Secretary and really take a look at how are we fighting these wars? | ||
| What do we need to do to defend America? | ||
| Somebody said to me the other day, I was talking to an informed person about this grousing about it. | ||
| Like, if you don't win a war for 80 years, why does your budget keep expanding? | ||
| And this person said, the real reason is America's industrial base is overwhelmingly military now. | ||
| So actually, the only real thing we make are weapons. | ||
| And so that's what that money does. | ||
| I don't think that's necessarily true. | ||
| There's certainly, again, you still have that industrial base. | ||
| You spend a trillion dollars out of... | ||
| It's a pretty good chunk, but it's not the majority of it. | ||
| We make a lot of stuff. | ||
| I think that's kind of a mistaken notion as well. | ||
| Industrial production continues to rise here. | ||
| Again, we become more and more productive. | ||
| That's a good thing. | ||
| Right now, we don't have enough workers. | ||
| To be manufacturing a whole lot more stuff. | ||
| I mean, the last thing we should be doing is trying to attract high labor content product back to the U.S. We just don't have enough people to do it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So, that's probably like a Raytheon talking point, then. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just putting the basic numbers. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| So, what happens to this bill? | ||
| Well, again, what I'd like to do is split it into two parts. | ||
| Do the, you know, quite honestly, what has to be done now. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| I think they're asking way too much. | ||
| I pointed this out with Kristi Noem. | ||
| They're looking for $46 billion for the fence, right? | ||
| Or for the wall. | ||
| Well, in the first Trump term, I can't remember the exact numbers, I think something like 485 miles. | ||
| We spent $6.6 billion, so that's like $14.4 million a mile. | ||
| Now they want $46 billion? | ||
| That's built over 3,000 miles. | ||
| So I asked her, square that circle for me. | ||
| And she really didn't. | ||
| She was actually saying they're projecting $12 million. | ||
| I was willing to give her $14.4 million. | ||
| Even though I was in Israel when I was chairman of Homeland Security, they built their very effective fence for less than $2 million a mile. | ||
| But lay that aside. | ||
| So provide border funding. | ||
| The price you have to pay for that is more defense spending. | ||
| Bank the most savings we can. | ||
| Take the good work the House has done. | ||
| Bank that savings. | ||
| Extend current tax law. | ||
| Take an automatic tax increase off the table. | ||
| Provide that certainty to the economy. | ||
| Bump up the debt ceiling for a year. | ||
| To keep pressure on us to come back and then do the big beautiful bill, we'll consider President Trump's tax proposals. | ||
| Listen, I'm all for no tax on cash tips. | ||
| Can't collect it anyway. | ||
| So why even try? | ||
| And that keeps... | ||
| I think that's a good thing. | ||
| I don't want to go to a government-backed digital security. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| I mean, the other tax proposals he promises he made in the campaign, they're not pro-growth. | ||
| They're just going to reduce revenue. | ||
| You know, no tax on overtime. | ||
| You know, I ran a continuing shift in operation. | ||
| I think the one time and a half or double time is more than enough incentive. | ||
| You know, we all live under a tax system. | ||
| Income is income. | ||
| Why would we? | ||
| Increase the regulatory burden on people who administer payroll to cordon off some of the overtime to don't tax it. | ||
| I mean, just be a pain in the butt. | ||
| Why doesn't everyone just pay the same rate? | ||
| I don't understand that. | ||
| And then everyone has skin in the game. | ||
| Everyone has a better sense of what their government is spending and on what, if it's coming out of your... | ||
| And I mean, non-profits too. | ||
| I think we should get rid of all non-profits immediately. | ||
| Why isn't Harvard's endowment paying taxes? | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| Why not just the same rate for everybody? | ||
| Labor, capital, same rate. | ||
| One rate. | ||
| You can be a non-profit by not making a profit. | ||
| I've done that, too. | ||
| I still pay taxes. | ||
| If you're a university, a church, something like that, you bring in revenue, you spend it, you've got no profit. | ||
| You're a non-profit. | ||
| So, no, the other reason I wanted to split this into two parts is, you know, we need to take the time to go line by line, to do a doge impact on the entire budget. | ||
| To find the outrageous spending, eliminate what people won't even notice, but also to simplify and rationalize our tax system. | ||
| We have a grotesquely complex tax system. | ||
| Everyone's out of compliance. | ||
| Everybody's committing a felony unwittingly. | ||
| Every single person. | ||
| You, me, every other American. | ||
| So simplify it. | ||
| Again, using basic principles. | ||
| Don't try and socially and economically engineer the tax code. | ||
| We're terrible at it. | ||
| You're not that smart. | ||
| So raise the revenue you need. | ||
| Try not to do any economic or social harm. | ||
| So that would imply a very simple tax system. | ||
| They always say lower the rates, brown the base. | ||
| But fair. | ||
| Personally, I've done well in this country. | ||
| I don't mind having a progressive tax rate. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| Certainly exempting a certain amount of income so people can live without having to pay tax and stuff. | ||
| But within those confines, keep it as absolutely simple as possible. | ||
| Now, one thing I know is there's nothing simple about simplifying the tax. | ||
| I mean, everybody's got their little tax break. | ||
| And, you know, even right now, one of the reasons I'm not looking forward to this ordeal that's going to come about over the next couple of weeks as I dig my heels in is, you know, there are a lot of people that support President Trump and have supported me. | ||
| They want no tax in overtime. | ||
| By the way, if all you live on is Social Security, the chance of you paying a dollar tax on that is almost infinitesimal. | ||
| So we don't tax Social Security right now. | ||
| Let's face it, if you have Social Security and you have income above that, why should you exempt some of your income? | ||
| I think us oldsters have stolen enough from younger generations. | ||
| I mean, you see the wealth transfer. | ||
| I used to have a chart on this, but the transfer of wealth from young to old over the decades, it's literally immoral. | ||
| It's immoral. | ||
| I've noticed. | ||
| Let's not exacerbate that problem. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| And again, if you can do something in tax... | ||
| And again, I'd rather not be incentivizing. | ||
| Again, trying to use the tax code to try and come up with some way to incentivize growth. | ||
| Just keep it simple, uncomplicated, rational. | ||
| Income is income. | ||
| Basic principles like wherewithal to pay. | ||
| Approach all of these things with with principles because the big problem in the house I would think the goal of this Republican budget reconciliation would be to reduce the deficits. | ||
| Seems like in the House, the only goal was to pass one big, beautiful bill by Memorial Day. | ||
| Great. | ||
| You achieved your goal. | ||
| But you didn't solve our fiscal situation. | ||
| You didn't even come close. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'm not impressed by the people managing this in the House, I'm just going to say. | ||
| So I'm not surprised. | ||
| But it, of course, needs the Senate as well. | ||
| Well, it needs presidential leadership. | ||
| And he needs to get behind fixing this problem. | ||
| Now, he said in the State of the Union he's going to balance the budget. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But I know in his mind he thinks he's going to balance the budget with tariff revenue. | ||
| I'm sorry, tariffs are a tax. | ||
| We're not quite sure who pays them. | ||
| Whereas the foreign companies, the foreign countries, uh, the U S consumer, For what? | ||
| Again, there's no doubt there's certain products, high-end semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, rare earth minerals. | ||
| We got to be basic in those. | ||
| We have to produce these here just from a standpoint of national security. | ||
| Is there a better way of doing that than just generalized increasing a tax, which is what a tariff is? | ||
| I would argue there probably is. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| We just give you a tax holiday for five or ten years. | ||
| Again, you've got a high-end semiconductor plan in a different country. | ||
| We're not collecting the tax on it anyway. | ||
| It's no skin off our you-know-whats to just come on over here, produce that here. | ||
| We'll just give you a ten-year tax. | ||
| Talk to the people who are going to invest in it. | ||
| What's it going to take? | ||
| How long a tax holiday? | ||
| What's reasonable? | ||
| Incentivize it that way. | ||
| But don't incentivize it by mucking up our tax code or, I'd say even worse, things like the CHIPS Act where you pay money to grifters that don't really fulfill their end of the bargain. | ||
| We're just not good at doing these things. | ||
| The free market's not perfect, but it is the most efficient allocator of capital. | ||
| So, I mean... | ||
| You're pretty good. | ||
| Plus, permitting reform, if you want to do precursor chemicals for pharmaceuticals, I mean, you've got to permit the refineries. | ||
| You've got to permit the mines if you're going to mine rare earth minerals and if you're going to refine those things. | ||
| So, again, we have to look at this, but it requires presidential leadership to go make the case, the logical case. | ||
| And that... | ||
| But you're not going to sell me just by saying, you've got to pass one big, beautiful bill. | ||
| I'm tired of the rhetoric. | ||
| I'm not prone to slogans. | ||
| It's like, lay out the case. | ||
| If you can lay out the case that we are promoting growth, and this is what the revenue is going to be, and this is how we actually shrink the deficit, and this is how we avoid a debt crisis, I want to be on board. | ||
| I want to see this president succeed. | ||
| How many of your colleagues in the Senate have your position on this? | ||
| Well, it's interesting, there's a fair number that are coalescing around the number, and I've never really, I've laid out options, but I've never dug my heels in on a number for a pre-pandemic level spending. | ||
| But I've laid it out, I think, logically enough, most people are, you know, there's a pretty big group say that it should be no more than $6.5 trillion in the next fiscal year. | ||
| So that implies about an $800 billion difference between what we're expected to spend, which would be about $8 trillion of money. | ||
| It's a long ways from the $1.5 trillion. | ||
| Again, what I've always said is, I need a commitment to return to a reasonable pre-pandemic level of spending, realizing we have to get the votes, but maybe even more importantly, a process to achieve and maintain it. | ||
| And that's that line, do the work. | ||
| But it'll take time to do the work. | ||
| But we need a commitment. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| I don't have access to all the information. | ||
| I mean, those are the guys that know their stuff. | ||
| And then have this as a review panel and bring up, just like in business, budget review meeting, bring up the department heads with their budget gurus and stuff and explain it. | ||
| Go line by line. | ||
| Again, why are you spending so much more than a fully inflated Bill Clinton level? | ||
| Or Obama or Trump? | ||
| I mean, explain yourself. | ||
| Why should we be spending even a dime on this category right here? | ||
| So you've got, you know, top lines within the federal government, more than 2,000 lines. | ||
| Under each one of those lines, there's probably hundreds of lines between all those. | ||
| So you've got a lot of work to do. | ||
| But it doesn't get done if you try and rush this thing through. | ||
| And now by July 4th would be the goal for the Senate. | ||
| So I want to break this up into two parts to give us the time. | ||
| To go through that budget line by line. | ||
| Will you get it? | ||
| Right now, I think I've got at least four that will dig their heels in and say, again, we want to see it succeed. | ||
| We want to pass this. | ||
| We want to pass something. | ||
| We'll pass what must be passed now. | ||
| Again, we've already set this up in the Senate with our budget resolution to provide the defense and border funding plus $850 billion in savings. | ||
| Tack that on to the House where we extend current tax law and... | ||
| By the way, that's going to be a massive amount. | ||
| It should shock everybody. | ||
| What we're going to have to increase the debt ceiling for just to get us by another year. | ||
| Probably $2 to $2.5 trillion. | ||
| Because we have to refill the extraordinary measures, the buckets they've taken from to extend the debt ceiling. | ||
| We're right now burning about half a trillion dollars a quarter. | ||
| So you're talking, if you extend it next year, five quarters at half a trillion dollars, that's $250. | ||
| $2.5 trillion just to get us by into next year. | ||
| That should shock everybody. | ||
| That's my whole purpose here is we haven't talked about the numbers. | ||
| We haven't put this in context of the big mess we're in, the deep hole we've dug ourselves. | ||
| I'm just going to force that debate. | ||
| I'm not trying to be obstinate. | ||
| I'll probably be accused of grandstanding. | ||
| I'd rather not do this. | ||
| I'd rather have the house having really succeeded and the president totally behind, again, returning to pre-pandemic level spending, but somebody's got to do it. | ||
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| It's interesting if you pull back a little bit. | ||
| So as with the defense budget, you don't win a war for 80 years, but you keep getting more money. | ||
| A primary driver of the deficits and the debt is healthcare spending. | ||
| Is the country getting healthier? | ||
| No, we're getting sicker. | ||
| And again, that's shifting gears into really the failure of our healthcare system of establishment medicine, of pharmaceutically driven medicine. | ||
| They call it Rockefeller Medicine. | ||
| This is where I've been so supportive. | ||
| Why do they call it Rockefeller Medicine? | ||
| He's really one that really pushed pharmaceutical drug companies way back when. | ||
| I don't understand the full history, but again, that's all petrochemical-based, chemistry-based. | ||
| And rather than really focusing on health, it's all, we've got a pill for this. | ||
| Here's an example. | ||
| And I think this is true, but there was a debate in terms of what caused heart disease. | ||
| Is it too much sugar? | ||
| Is it cholesterol? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| From the pharmaceutical industry standpoint, they had a drug to lower cholesterol. | ||
| Statins. | ||
| So guess what they chose? | ||
| Cholesterol. | ||
| The winner! | ||
| The winner because we've got a drug to manage that. | ||
| Now, there are all kinds of emerging serious side effects of statins. | ||
| One that I read about was sudden hearing loss. | ||
| Guess who lost their hearing just like that? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Me. | ||
| Two weeks after I returned from Moscow, I just lost my hearing. | ||
| Just like stepped out of the shower and I lost my hearing, my balance. | ||
| In an instant. | ||
| Like all you're hearing? | ||
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In my right ear. | |
| So you start researching all this. | ||
| I mean, you know, NIH reviewed me because it thought it might have been Havana syndrome. | ||
| But as I got involved in the whole COVID, and I got to meet all these doctors who had a second opinion that weren't going along with the narrative, that had the courage and compassion to actually treat COVID patients that took seriously the vaccine injured, it just connects you to... | ||
| And one of them, you know, laid out the listed side effects of statins and one of them is sudden hearing. | ||
| A lot of people are thinking it could be a main driver of Alzheimer's. | ||
| But again, they'll never admit it because that's a multi-billion dollar industry right there. | ||
| Do you think it's possible that statins are responsible for dementia? | ||
| People are saying that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not a doctor, not a medical researcher, but my eyes have been opened. | ||
| That's really scary right there. | ||
| If that's true, that's it. | ||
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I mean, people are positing that. | |
| I will say, since I took myself off statins, I've had a number of health conditions that just improved as a result. | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was complaining for years, quite honestly. | ||
| They put me on statins when I went in for a CT scan and they saw calcium buildup on what they call the Widowmaker. | ||
| But that's external. | ||
| Now, it can always bust through the arterial wall and... | ||
| But I had a heart catheterization a couple years ago. | ||
| I woke up from that and go, man, I wish my plumbing was as clean as yours. | ||
| So I don't know, because I was on statins all those years. | ||
| But I know I was being treated because I was having pretty severe dizzy spells, almost a point of passing out frequently. | ||
| You know, going up a step, whatever. | ||
| I took myself off statins under doctor's care. | ||
| That's gone. | ||
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What? | |
| I'll give you another one. | ||
| This is very personal. | ||
| This is strange I'm getting into this. | ||
| It's a safe space. | ||
| So I've always had acid reflux for years. | ||
| And so I was on everything. | ||
| Zantac and Prilosec and then Nexium, which by the way were great in terms of relieving symptoms, but also has some pretty nasty side effects. | ||
| So again, reading these alternate opinions on stuff, Hydroxychloric, no, hydrochloric acid has been known for decades to be a gestivated. | ||
| The theory behind what causes acid reflux is you don't have enough stomach acid. | ||
| You're not digesting the food properly. | ||
| You're not providing the signal to the, I guess, sphincter muscle, whatever, that closes your stomach off from your esophagus. | ||
| So what you do to solve it is you introduce more acid. | ||
| You know, in the form of a natural vegetarian-based product, and that's called hydrochloric acid. | ||
| So I take one tablet now before my evening meal. | ||
| I miss it probably at least half the time. | ||
| I don't have it anymore. | ||
| So I don't take any of that stuff anymore. | ||
| This worked far better. | ||
| It's just completely natural. | ||
| It's completely opposite of what all these other patented So it's just HCL, and they call it baiting or something like that, but it's just an over-the-counter supplement, and it's worked great. | ||
| I mean, you would think, given what we... | ||
| So I will get all kinds of guff for talking about this stuff, but it's just... | ||
| Because that's what they do. | ||
| This is the... | ||
| It will be because the pharmaceutical industrial complex, again, it's all about drugs that can treat chronic illness, which is why you can't talk about these things, which is why they completely sabotaged the early treatment of COVID using things like hydroxychloroquine and particularly ivermectin, which I heard, because I was at the tip of the spear. | ||
| I got all kinds of people. | ||
| Calling me, what doctors would treat this? | ||
| And so I heard the amazing stories of recovery with ivermectin. | ||
| We will hold a hearing on this. | ||
| There's one attorney that got called in to sue a hospital because somebody's loved one was in the hospital and they were begging them to use ivermectin. | ||
| The hospital just refused. | ||
| So this lawyer went in there and sued, was successful, saved that person's life. | ||
| So in the end, because he did this, I think he had something, this is a rough number, something like 200 families that he went to court for to force the hospitals to use ivermectin or budesonide or some of these other drugs, right? | ||
| He won about half the cases. | ||
| Of those 100 cases, I think he lost a couple of patients. | ||
| Otherwise, they all survived. | ||
| Of the 100 cases he lost, they all died. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| So you take a look at these hospital protocols. | ||
| There's a great documentary, VAX-3, that really goes through this and just talks about the hospital protocols using remdesivir, which the nurses called run death, death is near. | ||
| The Anthony Fauci said this is the treatment, even though whatever study it was, they changed the endpoint from death to just days in hospital. | ||
| Which I don't think even that was true. | ||
| The number of conflicts of the people reviewing that that were associated with Gilead. | ||
| I mean, the WHO recommended against using remdesivir, and yet we still use it. | ||
| I mean, you see what happened during COVID, thoroughly corrupt. | ||
| And, you know, we just had our hearing on the signals on myocarditis, which they completely downplayed, hid for months. | ||
| On the COVID injection. | ||
| So why are we giving any money to a system that not only fails to improve public health, but actively conspires against it? | ||
| I would say the primary reason at this point in time is because in 1997, Clinton, through regulation, allowed pharmaceutical companies to advertise. | ||
| And you look at those ads, you don't have any idea what those drugs are doing, right? | ||
| But that's common around the world, right? | ||
| Most countries allow that. | ||
| No, only America and New Zealand allow that. | ||
| I knew the, yeah, I just wanted to evoke that. | ||
| So only the United States and New Zealand out of every country on planet Earth allow drug companies, pharma companies to advertise. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so you take a look at those ads. | ||
| I have no idea what any of those drugs are treating other than Make your wife hotter, yeah. | ||
| They look wonderful. | ||
| And then, if you listen to these side effects, spoken, possible death. | ||
| Again, I sold plastic. | ||
| I'm used to marketing. | ||
| There is no way anybody would spend a dollar, a dime on an ad for a product where you've got to list all the horrible side effects. | ||
| Why do they do it? | ||
| Again, you don't know what the drug is for. | ||
| They're not selling those drugs. | ||
| No, they are buying the narrative. | ||
| I worked in the media my whole life. | ||
| And that is what we saw during COVID. | ||
| I mean, that's what completely opened up my eyes. | ||
| They're paying NBC and Fox News and CNN and CBS and everybody else not to criticize the COVID shots. | ||
| I ran in 2010 after I'd given a Tea Party speech and two things I said, which my campaign guy said, never say that again, is I defended big oil and big pharma. | ||
| Am I the only guy that likes a gas station in every corner of the town because I run it down to empty? | ||
| Or am I the only one that wants a life-saving new drug? | ||
| By the way, there are wonderful drugs. | ||
| For sure. | ||
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There are, that we need, particularly in acute care. | |
| But we do need, and this is what, again, I give Bobby Kennedy and Trump so much credit for laying aside their political differences, joining an alliance to focus on a problem. | ||
| That they both agree that needs to be solved, and it's chronic illness. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy says 75% of our healthcare spending is on chronic illness. | ||
| And so I just laid out, you know, I had a chronic condition. | ||
| Acid reflux, GERD. | ||
| And kept treating with all these pharmaceuticals. | ||
| They weren't cheap. | ||
| You know, Prilosec, Nexium, they're not cheap. | ||
| Leviated the symptoms, but didn't fix it. | ||
| I go to something that just is far cheaper. | ||
| I think works better. | ||
| I don't have to even take it every day. | ||
| I think I've probably replenished the acid in my stomach, which declines with age. | ||
| So, I mean, every other day I take one, if I remember it as an evening meal, pretty well solved the condition. | ||
| I have cured a chronic. | ||
| I'm not treating it anymore. | ||
| I was treating it with Prilosec and Nexium. | ||
| I pretty well cured it. | ||
| Now, I still take this because it's a digestive aid. | ||
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It's like you eat the right stuff. | |
| Why can't, if Clinton allowed pharma to advertise, allowed pharma to buy the media, which they did, I can verify that since I worked there, why can't that be undone as easily? | ||
| Well, it can. | ||
| You ought to use your influence with President Trump to make sure he supports Bobby if he decides to do that. | ||
| But we should do that. | ||
| And again, I'm a free market guy. | ||
| I mean, I'm... | ||
| But we couldn't even have a debate about the most... | ||
| And again, I can verify that firsthand since I worked there. | ||
| And you just couldn't, they did not want in any way to criticize pharma companies, period. | ||
| So that's where it started. | ||
| We're not criticizing these people, period. | ||
| And it's because they pay all the bills. | ||
| So if you ended that, which you could do, I think, with a stroke of a pen, you could have... | ||
| People would, you know, have a chance to know what they were being prescribed and decide whether or not to take it, right? | ||
| That would be the hope. | ||
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| You know, I had a public event, and it was really based on your interview with Casey and Callie Means. | ||
| And so we put that together. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy showed up and we had a bunch of social media influencers on nutrition. | ||
| And one of the witnesses, a specialized. | ||
| I think he probably made the best little snippet of testimony. | ||
| He said, you know, they don't want to know the root cause of chronic illness. | ||
| Again, who's they? | ||
| I remember listening to you asked that too. | ||
| What's that, Catherine Witt? | ||
| Oh, wonderful. | ||
| Wonderful woman. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You asked her, who are they? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I ask that myself all the time. | ||
| My guess is they attend Davos. | ||
| Whoever they are, they're there. | ||
| They're not invited to my house for dinner. | ||
| But I thought that was a very interesting comment. | ||
| They don't want to know the root cause. | ||
| Because if they find out it is some pharmaceutical product or some pesticide or some herbicide or some toxin in our food, that's going to disrupt multi-billion dollar business models. | ||
| And those businesses are fully engaged in lobbying. | ||
| They're fully engaged and have captured our regulatory agencies. | ||
| I'm talking about this all day. | ||
| Listen, government is power, right? | ||
| That's a pretty good definition of government. | ||
| It's power. | ||
| And as Lord Acton aptly stated, power corrupts. | ||
| And so what has happened over the decades is these businesses, and I have a great deal of sympathy for them being over-regulated by big government, right? | ||
| They're smart, especially the big ones. | ||
| They got smart people there. | ||
| So not only do they figure out how to survive with over-regulation, they learn how to capture it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then they promote it. | ||
| And then they capture it for their benefit to the detriment of their competitors, particularly smaller competitors, and detriment of the American public. | ||
| And that is what has happened, I would say, across the board in government, whether it's pharmaceuticals, whether it's military industrial complex, whether it's our big food. | ||
| That's, in my mind, that's the hope. | ||
| That's what I want to see Donald Trump defeat. | ||
| And you first defeat it by exposing it. | ||
| People have to understand this is what's happened, but certainly what I learned, you learned, Bobby Kennedy learned during COVID, it is very difficult to defeat back then what I called the COVID cartel. | ||
| That is a powerful group. | ||
| And they're not going away. | ||
| Let's start with a really easy one. | ||
| And those are the vaccine injured. | ||
| So these would be American citizens who obeyed their government and took a shot that they were required to take on pain and punishment and then were injured by or killed by that shot. | ||
| They've received almost no attention. | ||
| You're literally one of the only lawmakers who ever mentions them. | ||
| You've had a bunch of hearings. | ||
| You know them personally. | ||
| Describe the scale of the injury and death from the COVID shots, if you would. | ||
| Well, just on VAERS alone, I think we're over 38,000 deaths associated with the COVID vaccine. | ||
| VAERS is the federally created... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But that's a government reporting system. | ||
| Now, some conditions are mandatory to be reported, but they're still not. | ||
| The two... | ||
| Sometimes you don't connect the dots. | ||
| So on VAERS system, to date, worldwide, there's over 38,000 deaths associated with COVID vaccine, and 24% of those to date either occur on the date of vaccination or within one or two days. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, I know someone who was killed by it. | ||
| You know, we saw these athletes dropping like flies on the field. | ||
| You saw newscasters just toppling over from their anchor chair. | ||
| And, like, that wasn't reported. | ||
| You'd get it through social media. | ||
| You might have a local news story, but there's no national news media that'd hop down and say, what is happening here? | ||
| No, because that wasn't real. | ||
| It was all denied. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was all tonight. | ||
| A lot of 23-year-old soccer players have heart conditions, it turns out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all that exercise they do. | ||
| I don't know why I'm laughing. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| So 38,000 globally just on VAERS. | ||
| Is anyone keeping track of the injuries and the chronic illness caused by those shots? | ||
| I think they're primarily calling it long COVID now. | ||
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| That's their excuse. | ||
| And even those that are vaccine injured. | ||
| I mean, nobody wants to admit that they maybe should have taken a little more time, gotten a little more educated about this experimental COVID injection. | ||
| They don't want to think there may be a ticking time bomb in terms of turbo cancers. | ||
| But again, more and more evidence is coming out that in tumors, they find the spike protein. | ||
| The spike protein, as well as the modified RNA, it's not true mRNA, that does degrade very rapidly, circulating the body for months, possibly years. | ||
| Again, they find the spike protein in autopsied hearts, in tumors. | ||
| We know from people like Kevin McKernan that there was DNA contamination. | ||
| It can't integrate into the cell. | ||
| Could cause cancer. | ||
| Again, I hate talking about it because I know 70-80% of Americans got vaccinated. | ||
| They don't want to hear about it. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| They want to just move on. | ||
| That's why it's so difficult to hold people accountable for this. | ||
| Well, here's an easy way to do it. | ||
| So if I sell any product, a food product, for example, and it turns out to kill people. | ||
| Get sued. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So only the vax makers have this exemption granted to them by Congress, the shield. | ||
| I've never heard a real argument for why they should maintain that or why Congress continues to protect them. | ||
| Why? | ||
| By the way, so I talked to Barbara Lowe Fisher, who was the mom who really pushed that thing through. | ||
| That law itself does not provide liability protection. | ||
| It's the 1986 law. | ||
| It was regulations, kind of the wink-wink nod to get it passed, that they promulgated regulations that actually provide that liability protection. | ||
| It wasn't just for the three vaccines, I think, at the time that were on the schedule. | ||
| it exempted all future vaccines, which has led to an explosion. | ||
| Because again, the greatest risk, Yeah, I mean, you just keep cranking these things out. | ||
| They aren't tested in a true placebo-controlled trial. | ||
| the trial period as meager as it is only lasts for a week. | ||
| It's just it's This is, you know, Aaron Seery testified at our hearing last week, and he's expert at all this in terms of the American public would be shocked at how little testing these vaccines actually receive. | ||
| But you have this, it's almost a religion around the safety and efficacy of vaccines. | ||
| I mean, I understand that it's such an elegant solution, isn't it? | ||
| 100% safe shot in the arm and you never have to worry about that. | ||
| The problem is just not true. | ||
| Well, but let's say it is true. | ||
| They're super safe. | ||
| Peter Hotez is like a legitimate physician. | ||
| He's telling the truth. | ||
| He's not deranged. | ||
| And, okay, then prove it. | ||
| Then hold them to the same standard that every other product that you buy, certainly every product that's mandated by government is held to. | ||
| And that's one that's backstopped by the courts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Tort law. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Why would there be this one thing? | ||
| That's exempt from a process that every other thing is subject to. | ||
| Because there were so many injuries manifesting themselves before that law was passed that those manufacturers are going to be sued out of existence. | ||
| And again, the religion and faith that these vaccines are just so crucial. | ||
| Even though you read a book like Dissolving Illusions, you realize the main reason most of these diseases were eradicated is because we no longer live in squalor. | ||
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| We have sewers. | ||
| We have sanitation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I mean, you see the chart coming down here and then the vaccines start occurring here and, yeah, the tail goes out and, you know, vaccines may have eradicated some of these diseases. | ||
| I don't deny that. | ||
| But the main thing is we, you know, we actually improve sanitation. | ||
| And what we are ignoring now is treatment. | ||
| And that came out with COVID. | ||
| It's like, I mean, I couldn't, you know, the reason I got into this is, I'm the only guy holding hearings on this stuff because none of this stuff makes sense. | ||
| So why are they just pillorying something like hydroxychloroquine? | ||
| I mean, if it works, give it a shot. | ||
| I mean, what's the harm? | ||
| It's incredibly safe. | ||
| Ivermectin. | ||
| But that was completely sabotaged all for the purpose of forcing this injection, what they call the vaccine, on everybody as a solution. | ||
| Why aren't we talking about treating disease? | ||
| Measles. | ||
| Why aren't we focusing on treatment? | ||
| Again, I'm telling these doctors, generally a very treatable disease. | ||
| Just about any disease can kill you, okay? | ||
| But a lot of diseases can be treated. | ||
| We ought to be focusing a lot more, from my standpoint, on treatment as opposed to loading up our children, our infants, with dozens and dozens of doses and not even asking the question. | ||
| So, okay, have these been thoroughly tested? | ||
| I mean, have we tested? | ||
| Giving multiple vaccines at the same dose. | ||
| I mean, every time you put a vaccine in somebody's arm, you're messing with their immune system. | ||
| Why do we have all these autoimmune diseases nowadays? | ||
| You know, what is causing autism? | ||
| I mean, we're just not able to ask the question because, to get back to my witness in that last event, is they don't want to know. | ||
| And they attack anyone who asks, including you. | ||
| And I mean, watching what's happened to you has really been the greatest of all wake-up calls for me because I would say of the senators I know, which is most of them, you're like the most temperamentally moderate and accountant, number-based, like not a wild-eyed radical at all. | ||
| At all. | ||
| And there are some crazy people in the Congress. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| You're the opposite. | ||
| You like budgets and stuff. | ||
| So if they're calling you a wacko, they discredit themselves. | ||
| That's just as an observer, my observation. | ||
| You know, so during COVID, quick story here. | ||
| I was on a telephone town hall, and this is when Omicron was ramping up. | ||
| And this is already by the time we've got a partisan split on COVID, right? | ||
| I mean, Republicans don't wear masks, Democrats do. | ||
| You know, Republicans aren't freaked out by it, Democrats are. | ||
| But again, I'm talking to these doctors. | ||
| I know they were... | ||
| It was more difficult to treat. | ||
| They had to double and triple the dose of ivermectin to have it actually be effective. | ||
| So nobody knew what was going to happen with Omicron. | ||
| I think people were thinking it looked like it was going to be more mild. | ||
| I'm on a telephone town hall with my constituents, probably a couple thousand. | ||
| I said, listen, take this seriously. | ||
| COVID can still be a deadly disease. | ||
| So whether you're vaccinated or not vaccinated, there are things you can do. | ||
| Vitamin D. You can gargle. | ||
| You know, that helps reduce the viral load. | ||
| Within 10 minutes, my comms team were being contacted by national news outlets saying, what's this that we're hearing that Johnson's saying that Listerine will replace the vaccine? | ||
| Now, of course, I said nothing of the kind. | ||
| I just said, you know, there are things you can do to help protect yourself, you know. | ||
| And they actually went so far as to go up to the governor of said well when batshit crazy knocks on your door slam the door in his face I mean that was the so again what That was what Sununu said? | ||
| What they do is they discredit people. | ||
| So then once they've done that, you know, whether as falsely as they discredit you, now you're discredit. | ||
| So now, next thing that comes up that is true, that you're talking about, things, oh, this guy, he's thoroughly discredited. | ||
| This guy's discredited. | ||
| He's describing it. | ||
| He thinks Listerine is... | ||
| Just like, you know, the CIA used the conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Just call somebody conspiracy theorist and then you don't have to listen to him anymore. | ||
| This guy's obviously a nutcase. | ||
| So no, I've lived this up close and personal. | ||
| The problem is that it does make everyone into a nihilist. | ||
| It's happened to me. | ||
| I've tried and fight it. | ||
| And, you know, you just, like, don't go to the doctor, for example, which is where I am, or I know a lot of people like that. | ||
| And that's, you know, you should probably go to the doctor. | ||
| I mean, you know, get a checkup. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| But they've so devalued their own currency. | ||
| They've so discredited themselves through lying and just the most evil kind of like blaming you for their problems that it's, I don't know, it's had all these effects on our society that I don't think we've. | ||
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| members of the medical profession they ought to be concerned that a very large percentage of american people simply don't trust them anymore like at all and that's not good that's not good you know i think they're evil when i was when i was chairman of the european subcommittee on foreign relations we had i think gary kasparov come in and talking about russian disinformation yeah and i thought it was interesting because it's they're not russia is not trying to convince you of something with their disinformation they just want people not to trust | ||
| anything I feel like Albert Bourla did more to achieve that in the United States, the head of Pfizer, than like any Russian ever could. | ||
| You know, Joe Biden did that. | ||
| Susan Rice did that. | ||
| I mean, all these people, they just lie right to your face. | ||
| And there's no recourse. | ||
| So is there even conceivably a chance that Congress would repeal the protections that the vaccine makers enjoy. | ||
| That'll probably be a stretch. | ||
| Can I ask this? | ||
| Where's the trial bar in this? | ||
| The trial bar has kind of like wrecked America by encouraging lawsuits for like the most frivolous possible. | ||
| I get sued all the time by people like, I don't like what you said, I'm suing you. | ||
| And you have to deal with it. | ||
| They come to your house. | ||
| Process servers. | ||
| But, and that's because the trial bar has gotten rich from this, from the tobacco, asbestos, all these shakedown, these totally fake. | ||
| Money-making operations that they Morgan& Morgan with the ambulance chasing and all that. | ||
| Why aren't they pushing for the repeal of the protections that vaccine makers uniquely enjoy? | ||
| That's a really good question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So as somebody from the private sector, I avoided lawyers in the judicial process like a play. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| So it's not, you know, I'm not overly enthused about saying, but we need to expose. | ||
| Vaccines to that check and balance, okay? | ||
| And we do. | ||
| I would say we have to cap awards. | ||
| I mean, there's got to be something. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Because we do need pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| You know, I want those life-saving new drugs. | ||
| It can't be a piñata party for lawyers. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| But it's got to be based on science, and that's why I really think the root cause, I mean, the thing that Bobby Kennedy must address is we have to restore integrity to science. | ||
| You know, this is, you know, Eisenhower warned us about this in his farewell address. | ||
| It doesn't give us much coverage, but Public financing of science and research would lead to a scientific and technological elite to drive public policy. | ||
| I would view that corrupted. | ||
| So when you pay for science, you get the result you want, whether it's climate change, whether it's vaccines, whether it's drugs and that type of thing. | ||
| We need to restore integrity. | ||
| Peer review is a joke. | ||
| Peer reviewers are basically volunteering. | ||
| So you'll get peer reviewers who might have a different paper themselves, and they just discredit that. | ||
| So what is truth? | ||
| So you have to restore integrity to science. | ||
| There's got to be, like, everybody from opposing sides have to be at the table. | ||
| You've got to make your data available. | ||
| Some of these studies are published. | ||
| Nobody gets to see the data. | ||
| So that, I think, is the first step that Bobby has to accomplish, is try and restore integrity, particularly for government-funded science. | ||
| Well, you tried the other day to raise science-based questions about a pivotal event in American history 24 years ago, 9-11, and you asked a question that I think any honest person would ask, like, Building 7 was never hit by a plane. | ||
| Why did it fall down in exactly the same way the first two towers did? | ||
| That shouldn't be verboten. | ||
| So you asked that question. | ||
| I want to read the response from a Republican in the House, a new member called Mike Lawler, I guess from New York. | ||
| And he said this. | ||
| I don't know if you know him. | ||
| You probably don't. | ||
| He just got there. | ||
| Quote, Senator Johnson should stop peddling conspiracy theories about the worst terrorist attack in our nation's history and one that forever altered the lives of so many of my fellow New Yorkers. | ||
| Crap like this dishonors and disrespects the innocent lives lost, our brave first responders, and all families and survivors who still carry the pain of 9-11 each and every day. | ||
| So I think... | ||
| He doesn't really seem to represent New York anyway. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| The point is, why would he attack you personally for asking the most obvious question ever, one rooted in science, which is, how did this happen? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It sure hurt my feelings. | ||
| I know you don't care, but I just thought, why Mike Lawler, who literally just got there, got a lot of problems in New York? | ||
| Why is he mad at you for asking that? | ||
| You think he would want you to ask? | ||
| What is so off-base about that is the only reason I'm looking at this is because the then-chairman of the permanent subcommittee investigation, now I'm chair, but, you know, Senator Blumenthal, he wanted to do this investigation on Saudi's negotiation with PGA. | ||
| And, you know, he's doing it because he's from Connecticut and got 9-11 families. | ||
| They want to know what Saudi involvement was. | ||
| Yes, fair. | ||
| I didn't agree with that. | ||
| I thought, this is a private sector negotiation. | ||
| You know, let them take care of that, okay? | ||
| But he did it anyway. | ||
| So leading up to a pretty well publicized hearing, I started getting 9-11 family members see me in the hallway. | ||
| And they would have a heavily redacted document they got from the FBI in terms of what the Saudi involvement was in 9-11, what we knew. | ||
| And they asked me, can you please get this unredacted? | ||
| We want to know what the government knows about these things. | ||
| Now, this is 20-some years after 9-11. | ||
| It's probably about time. | ||
| So in the hearing, I asked Senator Blumenthal, would you join me in requesting from the Biden administration? | ||
| This information from the 9-11 family. | ||
| Well, he had to. | ||
| But the bottom line is, I got down this road because the 9-11 families want to know the answer. | ||
| And once I opened up that inquiry, now I started getting all kinds of information. | ||
| But let me ask, why is it happening still redacted from 9-11? | ||
| It was 24 years ago. | ||
| It changed this country completely. | ||
| Every American has, I mean, Lawler's right in the sense that it really affected every American. | ||
| Why would our government continue to lie about it? | ||
| I can't answer the question. | ||
| All I can say is it raises my suspicion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then when you start gaining, again, I'm just as prone to everybody else going, that's wacko. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| But then you start gaining the information and you start going, wow, is that weird? | ||
| You know, building number seven, you see it come down, and we've all watched because it's cool to watch. | ||
| You know, these buildings being demolished, boom, just, you know, free fall. | ||
| Well, the only way that happens is if you remove all of their supports at the same time. | ||
| You blow them all out so that a building can really free fall. | ||
| If it's collapsing something else, it's like, you know, you build like a fire and it collapses off to the side or something, right? | ||
| So that was pretty strange. | ||
| But, you know, the more documentaries I look at this stuff, the more information I receive. | ||
| You talk to guys like Richard Gage, the head of the architects for 9-11 Truth. | ||
| They feed you information, and you start asking a lot of questions. | ||
| And you just realize there's a lot here that simply has not been answered. | ||
| And, you know, the firefighters want to know. | ||
| I mean, there was never a steal. | ||
| Structure building that ever collapsed because of a fire. | ||
| Especially Building 7. We don't get a lot of buildings that commercial airliners run into, so you can be like, who knows? | ||
| But Building 7 was not hit by anything. | ||
| It's actually quite a distance from the other towers. | ||
| It's not right next door. | ||
| It's hundreds of yards away, I think. | ||
| And debris hit it, and it caught fire, and then the whole thing collapsed, as we saw on camera. | ||
| That was not even included in the 9-11 report. | ||
| There's no mention of Building 7. It's like, anyway, the point is... | ||
| He dug up footage filmed at Ground Zero. | ||
| 156 witnesses, first responders, saying they heard explosions before the buildings came down. | ||
| I mean, trust me, there are a lot of unanswered questions. | ||
| I mean, things that you just... | ||
| So, I'm not sure where it goes. | ||
| I know you had Kurt Weldon on. | ||
| He's got a lot of information on kind of the before and after. | ||
| Because he's connected to the firefighting community, the firefighters want to know. | ||
| So, there are some very legitimate questions, a lot of them, that remain unanswered. | ||
| All swept under the rug. | ||
| They were, and you look at this, news reports are talking about explosions. | ||
| By the next day, nobody was. | ||
| There's a lot of power. | ||
| I'm interested in your evolution on this. | ||
| So you said before Blumenthal, your colleague, Senator Blumenthal from Connecticut, kind of raised this in a different way. | ||
| You were not wondering what happened to Building 7. No. | ||
| Don't think I've ever heard of it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I figured the Twin Towers came down. | ||
| I'm not a New Yorker. | ||
| It affected all of us. | ||
| We all saw them come down. | ||
| We said, the world has changed. | ||
| This changed the world. | ||
| And it did. | ||
| Oh, more than any other event in my life. | ||
| Not for the better. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| This is a seminal event in our lifetime. | ||
| And the fact that there's so many unanswered questions that the Bush administration was so resistant to even a 9-11 commission that the commissioners claimed that it was set up to fail. | ||
| That you've got a Bob Carey who's since passed said this is a 30-year conspiracy. | ||
| I mean, I could go on and on. | ||
| Senator Carey said that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of Nebraska? | ||
| Yeah, the comment, comment. | ||
| Receipts a Medal of Honor in Vietnam, by the way. | ||
| He's kind of walking away and going, this is a 30-year conspiracy. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Nobody ever found out. | ||
| So, again, I'm just throwing out little snippets. | ||
| But, as I said, it's amazing the questions that you see, the legitimate questions that have been raised that remain unanswered. | ||
| That's all I can say. | ||
| All I have is questions right now. | ||
| I don't have any answers. | ||
| I get it, but I feel exactly the same way. | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| I have no theory of everything in this at all. | ||
| But my question is, you just came with this cold, though. | ||
| Yeah, no, this was not something that I was hankering to delve into. | ||
| It's kind of like Bobby Kennedy, how he got involved in childhood vaccines. | ||
| He was giving all these speeches on the environment, and all these moms would show up with their T-shirts. | ||
| He kept him at bay for quite some time until one of the moms found out where he lived, came to his house with a stack of science, which he knew how to read because he was an environmental lawyer, and said, I'm not going to leave until you read this. | ||
| And to his credit, he sat down and read it. | ||
| And further to his credit, once he read it, once his eyes were open, he couldn't close them. | ||
| As much as he probably wanted to, as much as he realized the morass he was stepping into, I can't close my eyes. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Particularly with childhood vaccine injuries. | ||
| It's bad enough with the COVID vaccine. | ||
| Ernest Ramirez lost his son. | ||
| It's just heartbreaking. | ||
| Facebook dissolving these groups that were the only lifeline for some of these vaccine injuries and they started committing suicide afterwards because they lost that connection that they didn't have before these groups. | ||
| You look at the documentary just vaxxed and you see these parents had a And they have a video of a perfectly normal child. | ||
| And they take them in for a well visit. | ||
| So they get a vaccine. | ||
| That night they spike a fever, have a seizure. | ||
| Now they got a 26-year-old son who is extremely autistic, can't verbalize, acts up as... | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| And you see the stats where you go from, it's hard to verify the 10,001, but I mean, we know by CDC's own... | ||
| By the way, while they've actually narrowed the definition of autism, they didn't expand it, they narrowed it. | ||
| What's causing that? | ||
| And after the makers of Vaxxed went on a road trip with a bus premiering this thing, and other parents would come up to the bus, and so they started videotaping their stories. | ||
| And they got something like 10,000 stories of parents, almost identical. | ||
| It's like, perfectly normal child, got the video to prove it, go in, you know, within that night or within days. | ||
| You start looking at the increase in SIDS versus the increase of the, you know, vaccine schedule. | ||
| Again, I'm not a doctor, not a medical researcher. | ||
| My eyes have just been opened up to how... | ||
| You can't even ask them. | ||
| Anybody who does gets marginalized, vilified, discredited, and that's how they battle this. | ||
| They don't battle it with the truth. | ||
| In my public events, I always invited the federal officials, I always invited the executives from the big firemen, come in and defend yourself. | ||
| This is an open forum. | ||
| I'll give you plenty of time. | ||
| I'll be very fair. | ||
| Speak your piece. | ||
| I want to hear from you. | ||
| They won't do it. | ||
| They will. | ||
| I mean, Peter Hotez famously, you know, Mr. Vaccine Pusher, gets offered what? | ||
| What was the final offer? | ||
| Two point some million dollars? | ||
| Sit down and argue with not a doctor, a lawyer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, just debate RFK Jr. | ||
| And he wouldn't even do it. | ||
| What does that tell you? | ||
| He's just calling people names. | ||
| Just back to 9-11 for a minute. | ||
| You never really thought about it like most people, me too, I yelled at anyone who asked questions about it myself, so I'm sympathetic actually in some ways to people who don't want to hear it. | ||
| But now that you've looked into it and you said you don't have a coherent theory as to what it was, but you've got a lot of questions, which questions trouble you the most? | ||
| Well, it starts with Building 7. Yes. | ||
| Where you look at that and it just, yeah, I mean, this is really weird. | ||
| It does come down just like a building demolition type of project. | ||
| You get a documentary of this Alaskan structural engineering professor that does a four-year study on it. | ||
| Pretty well debunks NIST's analysis. | ||
| Again, you don't have to be a structural engineer to say this really doesn't make sense. | ||
| When you start putting together at what temperature steel melts, they had molten. | ||
| Steel in the Twin Towers. | ||
| I'm not sure we had a number seven. | ||
| But if one column, one column expanded, went off kilter, and that's what brought the whole thing down, well, it wouldn't come down so symmetrically. | ||
| You wouldn't have a free fall. | ||
| Then you get deeper into it, and, you know, there's a, I think his name was Barry Jennings. | ||
| He was there, went up there. | ||
| They'd already cleared out Building 7, even though he went up there to their command center. | ||
| Somebody goes, get out of there. | ||
| It was literally predicted to come down, even though, again, a steel-structured building had never collapsed due to fire because they're protected that way. | ||
| He heard explosions. | ||
| He got down to the sixth floor and had to go back up to eight because something had been blown out. | ||
| Again, what? | ||
| This building was not hit by an airplane. | ||
| No. | ||
| It was damaged, but even NIST says, Not significant damage by the Twin Towers falling. | ||
| So again, there's just so many things. | ||
| I mean, you could spend quite some time. | ||
| I mean, the ash contains residual of both burnt and unburnt thermite, which is used to... | ||
| And, again, jet fuel burns at below, I think, 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, and, again, nothing's adding up. | ||
| I mean, you know, just structurally, just basic engineering, basic physics, it doesn't make sense. | ||
| So I would like to, you know, and this took years to conclude the report. | ||
| To just a layperson, it doesn't make sense, particularly when you listen to the structural engineering professor just nuke the explanation. | ||
| They never looked at a plausibility of some kind of controlled demolition. | ||
| They never put in their report all these reports of people saying there were explosions. | ||
| There's just so much ignored. | ||
| In fact, the Bush administration dragged their feet. | ||
| Obstructed, setting up a 9-11 commission. | ||
| Again, I could go on and on and on and on. | ||
| I don't have any answers. | ||
| I just have a host of questions. | ||
| Then, if you were upset, if you were Congressman Mike Lawler, and you were upset that someone was a conspiracy theorist, and if you were sincerely bothered by that, by conspiracy theories, okay, I understand that, then you would know the only way to end a conspiracy theory is with an explanation that makes sense. | ||
| Why is there no effort to provide one? | ||
| Why isn't there a study, a government study, of Building 7? | ||
| And just let's put this stuff to rest. | ||
| Like, defeat it with the truth. | ||
| Why isn't there? | ||
| My guess is because they are very effective at marginalizing and discrediting anybody who even asks the questions. | ||
| But why would they want to hide the truth? | ||
| You'd have to know exactly what they're trying to hide to be able to answer that question. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Of all issues for Mike Lawler to be upset about, this one. | ||
| It really caught my eye. | ||
| Like, why are you mad about it? | ||
| Again, you just got there. | ||
| And you're attacking a senior senator who's thoughtful and sober and asking totally real questions. | ||
| Who are you covering for exactly, Mike Lawler? | ||
| And by the way, it wasn't like I went out of my way and had an interview just on this. | ||
| I mean, I was asked a question, probably wandered into a space I maybe shouldn't have wandered into. | ||
| But again, I was just describing all the ways the federal government has lied to us. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I've been... | ||
| I've been targeted by the FBI's misinformation campaign on Hunter Biden's computer. | ||
| I mean, they've given me BS briefings to throw me off the trail. | ||
| So I've seen this. | ||
| Again, I didn't run for the U.S. Senate because I wanted to get involved in investigations. | ||
| I ran because we were more during our kids' future because I knew Obamacare wouldn't work. | ||
| But you become chairman of Homeland Security. | ||
| Immediately, you've got the Hillary Clinton email scandal. | ||
| That's in our committee's jurisdiction, federal records, plus for the Oversight Committee. | ||
| So you start doing those investigations, and just one investigation, just more so than another, the same cast of characters, the FBI that wrote the exoneration memo for James Comey. | ||
| Transferring to Crossfire Hurricane to, you know, the group that, you know, Vindman and the impeachment inquiry of Trump. | ||
| I mean, you just see it all, and your eyes are opened up to the total corruption of these federal government agencies, and you realize we've just been lied to over and over and over and over again throughout history, at least, you know, history that's recent in my past. | ||
| I wonder why you haven't just ignored it like everybody else. | ||
| I met you right in early 2011, right almost 15 years ago when you first got there. | ||
| You're a business guy from Wisconsin, very closely divided state. | ||
| You didn't win by a huge margin. | ||
| You never won by 30 points. | ||
| So, you know, whenever you talk about something in public, you're taking a bigger risk than, say, the senator from Utah or South Dakota because you could lose an election. | ||
| I never in a million years thought you, of all people, would be the guy to, like, ask questions about 9-11 or the vax or January 6th and a whole bunch of other issues. | ||
| And yet you have been the only guy in a lot of cases to ask those questions. | ||
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| Why are you doing this? | ||
| Wouldn't it just be easier to talk about tax reform or something? | ||
| I would ask you the same question. | ||
| Why have you been so... | ||
| And of course, the Overton window is all about this is what you can discuss without threat or without risk. | ||
| But you've got to go beyond that. | ||
| Because I was part of the cover-up and I feel guilty about it. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| And I'm trying to atone for my previous sense. | ||
| That's the real reason. | ||
| In my case, I have a responsibility. | ||
| I was chairman of the Senate Oversight Committee. | ||
| So again, you start That's my committee's jurisdiction. | ||
| That has to be investigated. | ||
| I can't turn a blind's eye toward that. | ||
| And then, like Bobby Kennedy, once your eyes are open to this, you also can't turn a blind's eye. | ||
| But I think it's just the empathy you have for the vaccine injured. | ||
| Again, I didn't reach out to them because I was holding hearings because nobody else was on early treatment when I still had the chairmanship. | ||
| People start reaching out to you. | ||
| And then you become aware of these people that are completely being gaslit or being ignored. | ||
| I mean, I could not believe in that Milwaukee event I held in June 2021 where I met Breanne Dressen and Maddie DeGarry and other vaccine-injured Cheryl Rutgers. | ||
| Again, I was hoping there would be some measure of sympathy expressed by the news media. | ||
| They would ask them their stories. | ||
| You know, tell us about your experience. | ||
| No, the first question was, hey, Ken Rutgers, you just want to try and make money off of a lawsuit here? | ||
| Is that why you're doing this? | ||
| So, you develop an empathy for these people. | ||
| And then, listen, I'm not a New Yorker. | ||
| I wasn't impacted any more than the world was by 9-11. | ||
| Not anywhere like the firefighters who lost their loved ones or the 9-11 families. | ||
| But then they come up to you, and they're literally begging you, please, I want some closure here. | ||
| I want to know what happened. | ||
| The government's not being honest. | ||
| You combine that with the fact that I know the government just frickin' lies through their teeth to the American public all the time, which is outrageous. | ||
| It is outrageous. | ||
| Okay, so, you know, my eyes are opened. | ||
| Somebody's got to do it. | ||
| I actually have a responsibility to do it. | ||
| Now I'm chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. | ||
| That's responsibility. | ||
| Now, you have to pick your targets. | ||
| I've always said I'm like a mosquito in a nudist colony. | ||
| It's a target-rich environment. | ||
| But I guess I'm focusing on the things where there are legitimate questions by Americans who are grieving, who are suffering because they don't have an answer, because their vaccine injuries aren't being taken seriously. | ||
| So we're not providing the research for it. | ||
| So they're not getting treatment. | ||
| They can't be helped. | ||
| So, you take up their cause, because nobody else is doing it, and you have responsibility to take up that cause. | ||
| So, no, I mean, my life would be a whole lot easier if I just ignored this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, what do your colleagues think? | ||
| It's such a rebuke. | ||
| I know you like them, and they like you, and I'm not trying to cause you any problems, but kind of a rebuke to them. | ||
| It's like the vaccine injured show up at their offices, too. | ||
| Yeah, that was actually, I encourage the vaccine injured to go, because I like my colleagues. | ||
| It's a collegiate place. | ||
| So I said, show up. | ||
| Request and be pretty insistent. | ||
| Meet with the sender. | ||
| Meet with your house members, whatever. | ||
| So they showed up in mass. | ||
| And I really felt bad afterwards because they were treated horribly in many cases. | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| Yeah, horribly. | ||
| Rudely. | ||
| Staff only met with them. | ||
| Treat them rudely. | ||
| It was not a good experience for the vaccine injured. | ||
| Again, I didn't... | ||
| I just heard the stories. | ||
| All I can say is I felt terrible having encouraged them to do that, and it ended up being such a bust and such a negative experience in so many cases. | ||
| And their only crime was following instructions from the U.S. Congress and the executive branch, just like doing what they were told to do. | ||
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| I mean, they were accused by the most absurd charge level at them that they were anti-vax. | ||
| I mean, Maddie DeGarry, her mother, signed her up for the trial. | ||
| Breanne Dressen, she signed up for the AstraZeneca trial. | ||
| And what happened to them? | ||
| Well, Breanne Dressen, I mean, close to suicide. | ||
| I mean, she couldn't be touched. | ||
| I mean, she was sensitive to light. | ||
| She has all these neurological problems. | ||
| Manny DeGarry has a feeding tube. | ||
| She's in a wheelchair. | ||
| I mean, horribly. | ||
| And in her case, the drug company said that she has a stomachache, basically. | ||
| That's how they reported it to their government reporting. | ||
| This girl who'd been in the hospital dozens of times, her young life, I wouldn't say it's over, but it's not normal anymore. | ||
| No, these people suffered horrible industries. | ||
| I mean, Ernesto Ramirez, single parent, his son, I think 16-year-old son, somewhere around that age, it's his life. | ||
| Died suddenly. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And you just heard, again, you saw that so many times. | ||
| And it's still being covered up because nobody wants to admit it. | ||
| I mean, if you're a doctor and you push this or recommend it to your patients, you don't want to know that something you recommend or push on your patients might have killed them or resulted in permanent industry. | ||
| Members of Congress who cut videos, you know, get the max! | ||
| You know, our federal health officials, the news media who relentlessly, I mean, Stephen Colbert, you think he'll ever admit to vaccine injuries? | ||
| After he does his little skits with the little, you know, hypodermic needles in the background. | ||
| So no, I mean, that's the whole problem is you've got an entire society that doesn't want to admit they're wrong, including people who got the injection, that don't really want to think about it, just move on with their life. | ||
| And by the way, to provide some comfort. | ||
| I think they were definitely hot lots. | ||
| I've written oversight letters on this. | ||
| It looks like probably about 5%, 4% of the injections created about 80% of the adverse events. | ||
| I can't remember the exact percentages. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And so I write to the CDC that don't reply back. | ||
| But it's just, to me, manufacturing, this is a process out of control. | ||
| I mean, you've got, you really do. | ||
| I mean, I don't have the stats right with me, but it's obvious there were hot lots here. | ||
| Which should provide some people comfort. | ||
| I think about 75% of the vaccine lots, very few adverse events associated with it all. | ||
| I won't speculate why, but there are hot lots. | ||
| But you write about them, you lay out all the stats, and the response I get from the CDC is, we don't see any hot lots. | ||
| It's just like, we don't see a safety signal. | ||
| Well, if you're not looking for it, you're not going to see a safety signal. | ||
| But these people are in charge of public health. | ||
| They're supposed to care. | ||
| You know, they were fully vested in this vax, in this injection. | ||
| This was the solution. | ||
| They pushed it. | ||
| They ignored the safety surveillance. | ||
| I mean, the V-safe system. | ||
| This was set up specifically to track the safety of the COVID injection. | ||
| 10 million people volunteered on their mobile device. | ||
| Now, the questions they asked were pretty mild. | ||
| They really weren't designed to... | ||
| They had a list of kind of mild symptoms, you know, irritation of the arm, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| The second part was a little bit more serious. | ||
| Did you lose a day of work or school? | ||
| Did you seek medical care? | ||
| That's as serious as it got, okay? | ||
| But the results were shocking. | ||
| And even more shocking, they hid it from the public for two years. | ||
| It took Aaron Seary two years suing the government to release The results of the online mobile application v-safe data. | ||
| The results were 25% of the people, of the 10 million people, 25% lost a day of work or school because their adverse event was, you know, they felt bad enough. | ||
| 25%? | ||
| 25%. | ||
| 8%, I think 7.8% sought medical care. | ||
| And I think more than a majority, two or three times. | ||
| That's a reasonably, because I know people with adverse events. | ||
| That suffered and they never sought medical care. | ||
| Well, we'll get over it. | ||
| Of course, that's what the officials told us. | ||
| Oh, that just shows it's effective. | ||
| Your arm's burning up. | ||
| You're numb. | ||
| You can't walk. | ||
| Well, it's working. | ||
| It's supposed to make you sick. | ||
| It's medicine. | ||
| Well, you remain cheerful and single-minded and I think underrated. | ||
| In many ways, as a U.S. Senator, so I'm grateful that you spent all this time. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Well, thank you, and again, I've been watching you. | ||
| You know, I appreciate what you've done, the risk you've taken in your career. | ||
| I mean, all the issues, you know, going to Russia, questioning what happened on January 6th. | ||
| I mean, all these things. | ||
| You are, and this is important, you are expanding the Overton window. | ||
| And the harm done because we haven't even been able to ask some of these questions. | ||
| We haven't been able to discuss this. | ||
| We haven't had the type of debate that we should have in this country. | ||
| You're a big part of that, and I thank you for what you've done. | ||
| It's been easy and fun, but I appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you, Senator. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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