Tom Homan, Trump’s former ICE director, lays out a three-pronged plan to dismantle cartel empires, end child trafficking, and secure the border by deporting 1.7 million with final orders and targeting 700,000 criminal aliens, citing Biden’s policies as deliberate—12.5 million crossings (2M "gotaways") and 250,000 fentanyl deaths. He accuses NGOs, UN entities, and sanctuary cities of orchestrating chaos, comparing cartels to Fortune 500 terror groups with military firepower, while exposing Biden’s census rule reversals as a demographic power grab. Homan warns of 46,000 Chinese military-aged migrants and 300,000 missing children exploited by trafficking rings, vowing DNA testing, sponsor vetting, and DOE support to reverse the "biggest national security vulnerability" ever engineered. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, look, we had a discussion that night, and he gave me three rails.
Three things he wants me to do.
Number one, secure the border.
Shut the border down.
Number two, run the biggest deportation operation this country's ever seen.
And third, he wants me to lead an effort to find the over 300,000 missing children that were trafficked into this country, and this administration cannot locate them.
I think Joe Biden's the first president in American history who came in office and unsecured the border.
I worked for, you know, six presidents.
Obama and Clinton took steps to secure the border because they understood you possibly can't have...
There's no way you can have strong national security.
If you're on border security, you need to know what's coming, who's coming, where it's coming, why it's coming.
Joe Biden's first president came into office and unsecured a border.
And people ask me all the time why.
I think they see a future political benefit.
I think they think these people would be future Democratic voters, number one.
Two, but we don't even have to get there, right, Tucker?
I mean, when Biden signed over 90 executive orders, getting rid of everything we did, he also overturned a Trump census rule, where millions will be counted in all these sanctuary cities, which is going to result in more seats in the House for the Dems and the reproportionate seats in the House.
There are a lot of NGOs involved, the United Nations is involved, a bunch of religious charities, pretty evil religious charities, in my opinion, involved in this.
But they seem to be coordinating with one another.
I think under the Trump administration, it needs to be an investigation on what happened, who was involved.
I know I've had numerous conversations with Mark Green, who's the chairman of Homeland Oversight.
He plans on having some oversight hearings on this, specifically when it relates to the NGOs.
I think they were complicit in a lot of this illegal immigration.
And certainly the United Nations were south of our border working on this global illegal immigration to the United States.
So I'm counting on the new Congress, which we now have control of both the House and the Senate, to conduct oversight hearings and hold people accountable.
There's no way, again, there's no way this is mismanagement or incompetence.
This is by design.
And do I think Joe Biden had the expertise to do it?
No.
I think someone's pulling his strings.
So this is something that needs to be fully investigated.
They created the biggest national security vulnerability this nation has ever seen.
We got a record number of people on terrorist walls that's being arrested.
We got 2.2 million people.
And this is my biggest issue I brought up for the last two years.
It's just not about illegal immigration anymore.
You caused a crisis this big that overwhelmed the Border Patrol.
Where many times, 70% of agents were pulled off the line dealing with this humanitarian crisis, right?
Changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs, doing that humanitarian mission, leaving 30% of our Homeland Security officials left securing the border.
There was times in the last two years where 100%, 100% of border places were pulled off the line, such as in El Paso, because when they got overcrowded, this administration said, wait, we can't have overcrowding.
That's a bad optic.
So let's pull every agent off the line.
Process as quick as possible.
Release as quick as possible.
Because if there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here.
The border is still secure.
So when you overwhelm the border, that's one of the bad things to happen.
That's when we got 2.2 million gotaways, right?
That's when the fentanyl comes across to kill a quarter million Americans.
That's why sex trafficking of women and children is up 600%.
That's why the number of migrant deaths is at a historic high.
So, this, what the people called this innocent illegal immigration crisis made a lot of bad things happen because the Border Patrol strictly overwhelmingly couldn't do the national security.
Well, it changed the culture of the United States, which is worse than any of the things that you, and more permanent than any of the things you listed.
You can't run in and change people's ancient culture.
You've been here for 250 years.
You can't do that.
No, it's the worst crime ever committed against the U.S., worse than the Civil War, in my opinion.
So, but the...
Question is, like, who did this and why?
So the United Nations, we pay the largest share of the UN budget.
You know, we should have some ability to control what the UN does, but they commit this act of war against us.
Do you think that the fentanyl traffickers, known as the cartels, I guess, I'm not exactly sure what that means, I'd like to ask you actually, but you keep reading and hearing that they have control of parts of the southwestern United States.
Jalisco cartels, they're in over 45 countries of the world, right?
And not only are they responsible for moving narcotics in this country, They're currently in every major city in the United States, because not only are they smuggling the drugs in the United States, they're taking over the distribution within the United States, right?
So, again, and I said this at the RNC, and President Trump agrees with me, these criminal cartels have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined.
President Trump has threatened tariffs, and the president seems to say she's going to help.
We'll see if her actions match your words.
But President Trump has a lot of power over Mexico.
Look, the tariffs alone...
Mexico needs us more than we need them, right?
And look, I'm not saying every cop, every soldier, every politician in Mexico is corrupt, but many are.
That's just a fact.
When I was ICE director, we had vetted units we worked with.
Law enforcement down there, we vetted them so we can work with them.
But we didn't even tell the vetted units everything we know because we just couldn't be sure, right?
But Preston has a lot of leverage.
Remember, when I became a boarder in 1984, one of my first assignments out of the academy was protecting a port of entry in Tecate, California, because we had a DEA agent that was tortured and murdered, Kiki Camerana.
And they wouldn't help us to identify and turn over the people responsible.
Ronald Reagan shut down the port of entries.
And what, it take them two days?
All of a sudden we know who committed a crime, and so President Trump can obviously do that.
He can end all the visas, end the tourist visas, the business visas.
There's a lot of power he has over Mexico, and he needs, President Trump's willing to do whatever it takes to protect our sovereignty and protect this country, and he's ready to do it.
He approved it the first time, you know, when Remain in Mexico program.
Mexico didn't want to do that.
30 safe country agreements.
Mexico didn't want to do that.
They didn't want to put 10,000 military on their border.
But President Trump threatened them with tariffs, and they came to the table.
There are so many nice Mexican people, I mean, most Mexican people I've met I really like, that we forget that the government's very anti-American, is not our ally in any sense.
We spend all this energy being mad at Assad, whoever, who cares.
And we live next to this country that's...
Helping to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans every year.
No one ever says anything about it.
Don't you think it would be worth shifting some of that emotional energy and military resources to, like, countries right next to us who are hurting us?
I mean, we're going to come to the table what we need Mexico to do.
Remain in Mexico program, a game changer.
That needs to happen quickly.
That was a game changer.
Because after about two months, they stopped coming.
They stopped coming because they knew they weren't being released into the United States to not show up in court.
And even if they show up in court, no one's looking to remove them because on this administration, ICE can't arrest somebody for simply being illegally in the United States.
Secretary of America has made that clear.
They've got to have a criminal conviction before ICE can even look at them, even though they're illegally here.
So the Remaining of Mexico was a game-tier.
They stopped coming.
They stopped selling everything they had, giving the cartels every dollar they had to come to the United States to be released.
When the Remaining of Mexico program came into place, they stopped coming.
When they stopped coming, look at the lives that were saved.
Look at the money that was saved.
If someone's really escaping fear and persecution from their homeland, from their government, home government, if they're really escaping fear and persecution, they're going to be willing to wait in Mexico for the hearing.
But why would the U.S. take anybody who's, I mean, why is it our job, given our appalling track record around the world of, like, trying to make things better, you make them worse, because the world's super complicated, why do we have an obligation to take anybody?
From anywhere ever, I don't really get where does that come from.
Well, that was the genius of the Remain in Mexico program, right?
Because President Trump, I remember sitting in the Oval Office one day, we were talking about this, and I was trying to explain to him, and he understood clearly what the whole situation on asylum is.
I told him that if you look at the data, immigration court data, about 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum at our border never get relief from the U.S. government.
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Well, that's why Bernie Sanders needs a ton of Haitians in Vermont, because it's just, it's appallingly, it's blindingly white.
It needs to change.
I couldn't agree more.
So, but just back to the cartel question, I don't know that much about it, but I keep hearing, I think, informed people say, man, you know, parts of New Mexico, Arizona, California.
Even Florida, Texas, you know, there is real control by these cartels in the way that they control Mexico.
I mean, they're basically a state within a state with their own army and armored personnel carriers and tanks and like, you know.
Do you think that's real?
Do you think they have that kind of beachhead here?
As I said earlier, they're like a Fortune 500 company.
They're well-financed.
They're diversified in their funding.
I've seen a lot of intelligence reports.
They have access to military-grade weapons.
They'll take the Mexican military on, the Mexican law enforcement.
They do all the time.
And it's just not my opinion.
They have control, operational control, or southwest border.
And I've talked to chief patrol agents who will agree with me.
They've lost operational control on the southwest border.
One chief patrol agent used the term broken arrow.
I was on the phone the one time he was, Tom, I can't contain what's coming across.
I'm lucky I'm catching 10% of it.
The criminal cartels, knowing this administration caused this huge humanitarian crisis and overwhelmed the border, which we discussed earlier, and whatever assets that's left on the border left to patrol, the criminal cartels, you think 100 family units or 200 family units show up accidentally at the same place at a certain time?
No, the cartels control that.
They'll send a group to one area, knowing whatever left on the border was seized to that humanitarian crisis, right?
They have to go deal with that.
They create gaps in the system.
That's when they move the fentanyl that's killed a quarter million Americans.
That's why sex trafficking is up 600%.
The cartels, they create gaps in our system.
And that's where they operate.
And for the Democratic representatives up on the Hill saying, well, most fentanyl comes to the port of entry.
That's just a bunch of garbage.
Most fentanyl is seized at a port of entry because every vehicle stopped and...
And based on the CBP targeting system, which is law enforcement sensitive, and based on the responses to the questions, chances are they'll get secondary and they'll find some things.
Between the port of entry...
We're maybe touching 10%.
So if I'm a criminal cartel, I'm going to use a route of least resistance.
I know my vehicle is going to be stopped at a port of entry.
Will it be secondary or not?
I don't know.
But between a port of entry with 70% of the agents off the line, that's where I'm going to move my product.
So, I know I'm jumping around, but I have too many questions for you.
I read in the last three days, it's hard to believe this could be true, that the Biden administration auctioned off portions of the unfinished border wall at bargain basement prices.
Under President Obama, I got a presidential rank award under President Obama because I oversaw the removal of well over a million aliens during that three-year period.
Mallorca has actually accompanied me on operations in New York City, targeting criminal aliens and illegal aliens, both.
Jay Johnson approved the family operation.
A lot of families were coming across during the Obama administration.
And I told Jay Johnson, look, nine out of ten of these families are going to be already removed.
Are we going to remove them?
He said, absolutely.
Jay Johnson stood by that.
Ali Mayorkas, Alejandro Mayorkas went on operation with us.
He backed me up on it a lot.
The main thing we disagreed on is the transgender policy where he wanted special treatment for transgenders and ICE detention.
Making sure they're identified as being a transgender, they're protected in our facilities and separated and get medical attention, whether it's hormone therapy or whatever it was.
And they just, you know, they want a certain protection for them in our facilities.
But Alejandro Mayorkas went on operations with me.
He shook hands of officers who were enforcing the immigration law.
I remember we went to New York City on a huge operation, arrested a lot of illegal aliens.
And when he was nominated to be secretary, I thought, okay, we're in the middle of this crisis again, right?
He knows how we stopped it.
We stopped it by building detention facilities, including family residential centers, you know, the so-called cages, right?
He knew how we stopped it.
We stopped by building more detention facilities, detaining people, making them have a hearing, because if you're in detention, you have a hearing within like 35 days.
Nine out of ten lost.
We put him in an airplane and sent him home.
The board number's tanked.
So I'm thinking, okay, he knows how to fix it.
He might be able to do this job.
He got into the job.
It's a complete 180. I don't recognize him anymore.
He's about not enforcing the law.
One of his first instructions to ICE is that being in the country illegally on its own is not enough for you to go make an arrest.
You've got to wait until they're convicted of a serious criminal violation.
Well, they went through the impeachment proceedings, and I said at the time, I think we had five or six Republican congressmen that didn't vote for impeachment.
I couldn't believe it.
And I thought they lost the right to be a congressman at that point.
I mean, if they can impeach President Trump for making a phone call, you can't impeach Alejandro Mayorkas for what he did to this border?
The biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen?
Look, me and Christopher Wray, I'm not a friend of his, I don't really respect the man much, but he agrees with me that the border has become the biggest vulnerability this nation's ever seen.
He sees more red flags than ever before, and they continue with the open border, even to this day after the election.
Now they're going to sell border wall material that we're going to need, and day one we're getting in there.
The illegal behavior, the treasonous behavior from this administration has not stopped.
I mean, we just ended African American political power, by the way, because of the demographic changes.
Just basically made it, you know, both parties have paid, especially Democratic Party, a lot of attention to what black voters want because they're a huge part of the Democratic coalition.
And now that's not true.
And so it's not, you know, this is a complicated question.
Anyone who says, oh, it's just white racism is, what is your average black person in Chicago, native-born, family, been here 300 years, what does he think of watching his city overwhelmed with illegal aliens?
But, you know, they'd rather put these illegal aliens in a hotel room at $500 a night in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City and give them three meals a day and give them free medical care rather than take care of their own people.
We've got homeless vets.
You've been to Washington, D.C. many times.
Less than a mile from the capital, you've got homeless vets living in tents.
They don't have a free hotel room.
They don't get a hot shower.
They don't get three squares a day.
They don't have access to free medical care.
But you get people who are in the country illegally get all that stuff.
And the violence in these communities, and we're trying to address the violence.
Mayor Adams finally gets it, I think.
We'll see what he actually does.
You got the mayor of Chicago.
Chicago, the crime rate is extremely high in Chicago, right?
We know the shootings are outrageous.
And what we're saying to him, President Trump and myself have been very clear, we want to prioritize those illegally in the country that are public safety threats.
That's what we want to target first, because they're the most dangerous to our community.
Public safety threats and national security threats.
Why would any elected mayor of a city with a crime rate as high as they have, Not want public safety threats taken out of their communities, especially if they're here illegally.
You would think the Mayor of Chicago's number one responsibility is the safety of his community.
Why not help me take those public safety threats out of the community?
ICE agents aren't allowed to take a step into Cook County Jail, one of the biggest county jails in the country, where we used to get hundreds of illegal alien criminals out.
We can't even step foot in that.
They won't honor an ICE detainer.
They'd much rather release that public safety threat back in the community to re-offend, and where is he likely to re-offend?
I mean, so when South Carolina tried this in 1861 at Fort Sumter, It kicked off a civil war.
When Central High School tried this in 1957 in Little Rock, Arkansas, Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne.
You can't allow states to ignore federal law.
I'm trying not to use the F word here.
So how is that not an act of insurrection?
I don't understand.
If a mayor or a governor says, you know, we're going to ignore federal law and you can't come into our facility, how about you get a SEAL team and go into the facility?
To the mayor of Chicago, and to Governor Pritzker and the rest of them.
You cannot help.
You can choose not to help us.
Stand aside.
Because we're going to do it.
However, there's a line you can't cross.
If you're going to impede what we're doing, that's a felony.
If you're going to anointly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from ICE agents, USC 1324 to apply, that's a felony.
And we will prosecute.
We're done playing the game.
There are federal statutes on the books written by Congress.
Enacted by Congress, signed by a president, said this is a felony to do these things, and we're going to take that seriously.
And we've got a strong AG coming in, Pam Bondi.
I think we'll back up on this.
You can sit aside and watch us do your work for you.
Fine, you do it.
But here's the message.
No one's asking you to be immigration officers.
What we're asking is give us access to the taxpayer-funded jail where you already locked somebody in a jail cell.
Because apparently they're a public safety threat.
When you're done with them, simply give them to us.
And we're removed not only from the community, from the country.
Because when you don't, and here's what they're going to get.
They're going to get exactly what they don't want by taking this stance.
You don't let me in jail arrest a bad guy where one agent can arrest a bad guy in the safety and security of a county jail where we know he don't have access to weapons.
You're going to release him back in the community.
You're endangering the community.
The immigrant community is most likely to re-offend in that community.
You're endangering our officers, and you're endangering that alien because things could happen when you're making arrests in a public setting.
We have access to who knows what weapons, right?
So what's Tom Holman going to do?
We're going to send more agents.
We're going to find a guy.
So that means I've got to send a whole team to the community to find him.
We send a team because of officer safety concerns.
I'm going to send a whole team to find him.
When we find him, he's probably going to be with others.
Others are not necessarily an operational priority, but guess what?
ICE agents aren't going to be told to turn their back on any illegal alien.
So we're going to find the bad guy and anybody else around them.
So by your actions, to not let me in that county jail, means more agents in your neighborhood, a lot more agents in your neighborhood, and a lot more arrests, and many non-priority arrests.
You want to play the game, we're going to play the game.
That's the result you're going to get.
But I can't believe to this day that any elected governor, if Governor Pritzker says, you've got to come through me, okay?
No problem.
We can do that.
Why would you not want to help remove public safety threats?
I mean, this should be no question.
If you're going to have your opinion on illegal immigration, we're talking about criminals.
He believes he should take public safety threats out of his communities, too.
He's offering to help us.
He's offering to let me in the Rikers Island Jail.
We've been kicked out of Rikers Island Jail for years.
Again, we used to arrest hundreds of illegal animals with criminal convictions there.
Eric Adams says he's going to go as far as writing an executive order to get us back in Rikers Island because he agrees with me that Mayor de Blasio did a lot of harm that affected the public safety in New York City.
So he's getting a lot of pushback from the city council.
I saw him the other day.
He says, you know, you can cancel me if you want, but this is the right thing to do for public safety in New Yorkers.
He also said he will assist me in finding over the 300,000 missing children, which many are going to be in New York City.
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So let me ask you about Adams.
I talked to him the other day.
He seemed pretty reasonable to me.
I don't agree with him on, you know, a lot.
But on the other hand, he didn't seem crazy.
And my impression is that he was indicted on what seemed like pretty silly charges by the feds because he complained about immigration in New York.
But when he reached out to me, I sat down with him.
The first time ever, I saw the career cop come out with him.
He said, look, this shouldn't be controversial.
I want to work with you on this.
He goes, we're not going to be immigration officers.
I'm not going to help you round up illegal aliens.
I said, I don't want you to be an immigration officer.
I want cops to work with cops to remove public safety threats.
He gets it.
He says he's going to take some executive actions, so I hope he does, because that's going to make New York City much safer, not only for the community, but for my officers.
My biggest threat is, you're going to force us in the community to arrest bad guys when we could arrest them in a safety and security of a jail.
That puts our guys at grave risk.
And the same with the Border Patrol agents.
The criminal cartels can be put out of business by President Trump, which means the violence is going to rise on the southern border.
And it's also, if you think about it, and I know you have thought about it, I think it's safer for everyone to have your guys arresting illegals in the Sonoran Desert than in Times Square.
I think one of the things is to take their federal funding away.
I think that's going to bring a lot of people to the table because they need that money.
And plus, I think it gets down to if they MP, if they know any harbor, I think we need to prosecute members.
I said this when I was ICE director, that they ought to need to be held accountable, and DOJ needs to look at criminal prosecution.
Of course, the media went crazy.
Holman's calling to lock up politicians.
What I call for is DOJ. I'm not an attorney, but I, as an agent, many years ago, I have arrested United States citizens for annoyingly harboring, concealing an illegal alien in their home.
I arrested a U.S. citizen for harboring, concealing an illegal alien in the place of business.
If I can arrest a U.S. citizen for violating those crimes, why can't I arrest a mayor or a governor who's given his staff explicit instructions to impede us and to hide from us?
I mean, the Mayor Adams came around the city.
He would have a police force at the city boundaries preventing us from coming in, right?
That was one of the comments he made.
Now, he's walked them back because he made a statement he's willing to go to jail, and I responded, well, I'm willing to put you in jail if that's what it comes to.
We got 700,000, 780,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions.
They're going to be priority one.
Then we got, you know, like I said, we got criminals, national security threats, and fugitives.
These are the ones I talked at 1.7, I think the last number was, of people who had due process, a great taxpayer expense, or order removed.
They need to go.
We'll find them.
Then we take the rest.
I mean, everybody says, how many illegal aliens can you remove in a year?
I don't know.
I'll find out when I get into office, how many positions do I have?
What does my money look like?
How much money do I have to buy beds?
Because we need detention beds.
People don't understand, you don't arrest somebody and just deport them that day.
We have to detain them and work out arrangements for their home country.
To get travel documents, they have to accept that, yeah, they're a national of ours, and there's a process we go through anywhere from a few days to a few weeks, so we have to detain these people.
So how many beds can I fortify by?
Because if I don't have beds, it's going to be hard to do this.
How much money do I have with transportation contracts, whether over the ground or in the air?
And can other agencies be involved?
I know I specifically have requested that DOD be involved.
They can do non-enforcement duty.
What that does is, so the officers wearing a badge and gun with Immigration Authority, they shouldn't be driving a bus.
They shouldn't be building infrastructure on the southwest border, south side of facilities.
They shouldn't be doing the intelligence.
They shouldn't be doing the targeting, right?
As much non-enforcement work as possible, contract that out, have DOD do a lot of it, and that releases those badges and guns to the street where they're really needed.
So what other agencies are involved?
Is DOD going to be a part of this, take off the non-enforcement duties off our shoulders?
So hopefully I'll find out really fast what we have.
I know right now, my sources at ICE, they're already $300 million in the hole.
So I'm hoping Congress will provide us with huge funding through the conciliation process.
Yeah, Lindsey Graham yesterday said he's working on an astronomical bill.
It'll be more money than we've ever seen before.
I hope that's true.
I just don't want to be held up in this tax bill, because that's going to take six or eight months, and it gets watered down by the time we get it, and it's just ridiculous.
Have you, I mean, is there some legal way to designate Americans just for a temporary period as Ukrainians, and just tell the Congress that money's going to Ukrainians?
They're spending money defending the Ukrainian border, but it would be nice if they gave us just a piece of that action because they got a lot of money.
I'm hoping and praying that this is going to be different than the first Trump administration when he had the Senate in the House the first two years.
I'm hoping they come to the table and I'll help this president succeed.
So funding is paramount.
We're only going to be as successful as the funding we're given to get this job done.
Well, I'm no expert, but I know members of Congress, most of them, and I know that they only respond to pain, unfortunately, and you just have to threaten them, and you're going to lose your seat, and we're going to call you out by name and make you unpopular in your state, and your career will be over unless you obey immediately.
Normal people, you can reason with normal people, and love motivates people.
I mean, I doubt, like, in your house, you and your wife are threatening each other.
You probably love each other, saying nice things to each other.
But members of Congress are not normal people, and you really just have to, you know, grab them by the face and say, do this or suffer.
First of all, what price do you put on national security?
What price do you put on Lake and Riley's life and so many other little girls?
It's going to be a cost savings for American people.
Right now, we're spending billions of dollars on a free airline ticket, free hotel room, not even mentioning the cost of schools and trauma centers and hospitals and social services, and perpetuity.
We're out of the gate, but in the long run, we're going to save American taxpayers billions of dollars by getting this country back to the rule of law.
Even when you get 100% of the agents on the line doing their job, rather than changing diapers, making baby form in the hospital runs, more fentanyl sees, which means less fentanyl deaths.
Less people, less gotaways, which means less sex trafficking on women and children, less non-inspected terrorists.
Even the wall saves lives.
And people say, Trump's vanity wall.
No, that's America's wall, first of all.
Every place to build a border barrier, illegal immigration reduced, illegal drug flow reduced.
What people don't want to talk about is how many lives it saves.
The most vulnerable of those that come to the country, the women and children, can't get over that wall, which means they're going to a place where there's not a wall.
And what's waiting on them?
The men and women wearing that green uniform, the finest 1% this country has, who are going to take care of their medical needs first because they're in a lot of bad shape when they get there.
Men and women in the Border Patrol save thousands of lives every year.
Of course, the left wants to calm, you know, haters and stormtroopers and they want to, you know, slander the men in the horse patrol for what they did.
And still no policy to this day.
Men and women in the Border Patrol save a lot of lives.
Borderwall saves lives.
And under the Trump administration, the number of deaths were very, very low.
Both Americans and illegal aliens.
Under Joe Biden, I think we're just short of 4,000 aliens have died crossing the border.
While you and I are talking right now, while you and I are having this discussion, women are being raped.
Members of the cartels are part of the crossing through that border.
A child is going to die today.
Either drown in a river or be lost in the desert or abandoned by these cartels.
They think the government's getting close to them.
They'll dump people and save their own skin.
Look how many children have been abandoned.
Border Patrol's found a lot of them.
I guarantee Border Patrol will find all of them.
There's some toddlers they're going to find someday.
I mean, I know that in El Salvador, when MS-13 ran the country before Bukele, there was a religious component of kind of voodoo witchcraft component to MS-13 where they were worshipping.
The devil.
I mean, openly.
It's a component of the cartels.
You see it in Mexico as well, through Latin America.
It's more of a national security vulnerability than Ukraine or Syria or anyplace else.
So I think President Trump's not going to take no for an answer.
He is a president of the United States.
He's going to make this work.
And DOD will be a part of this operation.
We need them.
We can make a bigger impact if they can do some of the things that don't require a badging gun for us, and that puts more badging guns on the street than the rest of the bad guys.
They're an imperative part of this operation.
Other agencies.
We're going to need help from, you know, I'd like to see the U.S. Marshals be a part of that, the FBI be a part of it.
You know, I've gotten, I've actually shut down my LinkedIn account because I've gotten thousands of accounts, thousands!
Retired Border Patrol agents, retired ICE agents, retired police officers, retired military, all want to come back and help this operation.
And I'm hoping we can rehire a lot of these people.
You know, especially the retired border relations agents.
They know the Fourth Amendment.
They know what they can do and don't do.
A lot of them speak Spanish.
They know how to use the processing systems.
They know the game.
They're good at it.
So one of the first things I'm going to be working on is bring a lot of these retired agents back and let them help us do this job.
That's one thing I've been screaming about in two years.
Secretary Monarchist gets up there and says, they're all properly vetted.
Vetted against what?
Because we don't have criminal data from El Salvador or Turkey or Syria.
Do you think China's going to give us any national security data on their people or Russia?
So you vet them against NCIC. Which we have.
So unless you've been convicted or arrested in this country before and your fingerprints were taken, you're going to come back clean because we don't have access to most countries' criminal data.
A lot of these countries don't have criminal data, right?
You think Haiti has an NCIC? Absolutely don't.
So they say they've been, and they don't vet them properly.
And when it comes to terrorist vetting, beyond the criminal vetting, how about terrorist vetting?
You and I both know most terrorists in this world aren't in any database.
Unless they were part of a T3 operation or caught on chatter or encountered on a battlefield by a soldier and biometrics were taken, we don't know who they are or where they're at.
And so even they say they vet them through these terrorist databases don't really mean a lot.
But here's one thing that hasn't been talked about a lot, and I've talked to several whistleblowers in Border Patrol.
So they arrest somebody from one of these countries, they vet them through the Bureau.
But there's been such a push by this administration, process quick, release quick, because there's nowhere we're crawling, there's nothing to see here, border secure.
They process and release so quickly, sometimes the vetting came back after they released, and they were hot.
That's part of the plan, and we're hoping to do that.
But the Zabedas ruling is terrible, and we're hoping that now we've got a better Supreme Court that needs to be relitigated.
To say we can only hold somebody for six months, and there's a significant public safety threat, just because this country says, no, we don't want them, there's got to be a better way.
I wonder if the 47,000 Chinese that you mentioned, That's kind of what Fidel Castro did in 1980 with the Mariel boat lift, just like empty the prisons and the mental hospitals.
I think China, between all these people they sent, plus continuing to create the precursors that make fentanyl, they're trying to destroy this country.
One of the insiders in CBP told me, for example, one dead man sponsored over 1,600 people.
Been dead for years.
Massive fraud.
Massive trafficking involved.
And when they talk about opening CBP, one of them have to do that.
I said at the time, before they even implemented it, if you do this, it's going to create a huge trafficking network.
Or if you're from Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, Venezuela, you want to come to the United States, Under this CHNV program, you just got to find a sponsor who wants to take care of you.
How many sick pedophiles would be willing to sponsor anybody from one of those four countries to come and live in the United States?
After they get here, you own them.
All you got to do is, you know, you, their official sponsor.
Without you, they can't stay.
And what are these sick sponsors?
Not all of them, but many of these are going to be predators and sick people.
What are they going to do to these people who are trying to stay in this country?
Of the over 300,000 this government lost track of, I guarantee you, as I sit here today, we'll find many in forced labor.
We'll find many in forced sex trafficking.
That's a sad thing.
We won't find it.
So that's why President Trump's saying, seriously, we've got to save.
We've got to save these women and children that are put in this position.
The immigration consequences will still come, but first we've got to save them, get these kids.
As far as the kids, over 300,000, we've got to save these kids.
A lot of them are living the life of hell every day.
And I guarantee you we're going to find...
Well, HSI has already found some of these children in meatpacking plants, cleaning up entrails on a midnight shift.
We're going to find some living with pedophiles.
We're going to find some are in sex slavery.
Some are going to be dead.
But we've got to find these children, and President Trump made that a third rail of priorities.
And it's something that needs to be done.
This administration stopped the DNA testing.
They stopped the proper vetting.
Under the Trump administration, we were having the same problem in the beginning.
We did DNA testing.
You weren't a family unless DNA testing showed you a family.
And we did vetting.
We didn't just vet the sponsor fully.
We vetted everybody in their household to make sure there wasn't a pedophile living in that house, make sure there wasn't someone arrested with domestic violence in that house.
This administration stopped all that because Becerra, the secretary of HHS, he gets on stage and brags.
And I saw him on stage bragging how quick we release these kids from government custody.
We got a machine here.
It's like the Ford plant.
We get them in and out of here.
Yeah, because you stopped the proper vetting, you stopped DNA testing, and God help you for what you did to these children.
Because a lot of these children are living the life of hell every day, so we got to find these kids.
And then you go into the private sector and you're not retired, but you get to do kind of what you want to do and make a real wage after working for the government all these years.
And this problem is just so enormous.
And the bureaucracy is so complex and hard to fight.
First of all, you don't say no to the President of the United States.
Second of all, I won't say no to security.
I love this country.
I want to save some lives, secure borders, save lives.
So I'm going to come back and do what I can.
I guarantee you what we're going to do is it's going to save migrant lives, it's going to save American lives, and it's going to protect our national security.
That's why I'm coming back.
Not for the pay, I'll tell you that.
I'm coming back because after three and a half decades doing this job, do you understand it?
You understand the tragedies happen around it?
The more secure that border is, the more lives we save.
So I can rest, when I retire for the third time, I can say, I did my part to save some lives.
And maybe less children are being exploited and women are being exploited by these cartels.
And my number one goal is seeing these cartels wipe off the face of the earth.
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