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Nov. 1, 2024 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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Tucker Carlson Live Tour Grand Finale With President Donald Trump LIVE in Glendale, AZ

Get tickets here: https://tuckercarlson.com/trump-tour Join Tucker Carlson for a live interview with the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, just days before the election. The event will feature opening remarks from Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Senator Mike Lee, and other surprise guests. Follow Tucker on X: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson Text “TUCKER” to 44055 for exclusive updates. #TuckerCarlson #DonaldTrump #RFKJr #MikeLee #JoeBiden #KamalaHarris #live #election #Kennedy #Arizona #presidentialrace #conservative #leftist #news #politics @RealCharlieKirk Chapters: 0:00 Nicole Shanahan 10:44 Charlie Kirk 21:35 Sen. Mike Lee 32:58 Calley Means 42:40 RFK Jr. 1:12:13 Tucker Carlson 1:38:20 Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump

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nicole shanahan
Hello, Phoenix.
Hello, dear, wonderful, wonderful people of this great state of Arizona.
I come to you today as a former Democrat from California, I come to you today with an apology.
I am sorry what this party has done to the good people of this country.
I come to you with an apology for the despicable behavior of name calling.
Nobody in this room or in this country is deplorable.
Nobody is garbage in this room.
And it is wrong for a President of the United States to divide this country as he has.
and we are the brave people in this room that will unite it again.
I love you and I love this country.
When I was asked by Bobby Kennedy to run with him as his vice president, I told a friend and he said to me, Nicole, he was a former Democrat, he said to me, Nicole, I think the government needs something that politics can't give it right now.
He said, I think it actually needs an exorcism.
And I laughed.
I laughed because I thought as a joke, he was dead serious.
unidentified
Dead serious.
nicole shanahan
And I've learned over the last eight months that what is going on here is deeper than politics.
It is deeply spiritual.
We are being called to rise above the hatred and the fear and the evil.
We are being called to not be puppets of corporate interests.
We are being called to be individual sovereigns here in the goodness and the grace of God.
You know, I've seen the belly of the beast.
I've met all those celebrities we see doing those endorsements.
I've been at some of these parties where people fall on the ground because of a drug overdose and nobody cares about them.
I've knelt on the ground next to these individuals and picked them up and looked in their eyes and wondered what the hell they were doing with their lives.
There are good people in this country and they're everywhere and they're more populous than this tiny segment of the population that has been responsible for so much of our pain.
And it stops now.
It stops when we start asking questions out loud because we are fearless.
And when mothers realize we can't just keep whispering to each other anymore.
We mothers cannot stay in our homes calling one another with our desperate concerns because it's gotten too desperate.
We have to come out on this stage now.
And I will share with you that coming out on this stage has cost me dearly.
They have ripped my reputation apart.
They have threatened things that I didn't know people could take away from someone in this country.
People even threaten taking your children away for rising up against Big Pharma.
Boo!
Your instinct and your intuition about what is going on in this country is absolutely spot on.
You are some of the brightest people and you caught onto this and you were brave enough, more so than I was and many of the people I know who are still remaining silent today.
You guys come up, come out, and you show up because you're freaking brave.
This country will heal, and it is healing now.
We're all afraid of the degree of cheating that is happening right in front of our eyes.
The parading of Joe Biden in a panda suit yesterday, right in front of our eyes.
unidentified
What the hell is this mockery?
No more, no more, no more.
nicole shanahan
I have my California state ballot here.
This is my actual ballot.
Millions of Americans have shed blood for this piece of paper.
unidentified
And it cannot be taken in vain.
nicole shanahan
My name happens to be on this one.
When Bobby called me and he said, the big guy wants to talk.
I was like, God?
And he said, no, Donald Trump.
He shared with me that on the day of President Trump's near assassination, he received a call from him and in earnest, talked man to man.
individual sovereign to individual sovereign.
And they connected about their mutual love of this country.
Because the real men in this country know how to put their egos aside.
And they know that we have to make America healthy again.
Despite the novelty of seeing my name on here next to a bubble, I will be a first time Trump voter tonight.
I really mean it when I say that I am apologizing for all of the people on the left who don't understand their bad behavior.
unidentified
I am so sorry.
nicole shanahan
We will unite this country under an umbrella of love and mutual understanding of dignity and grace.
I'm going to just close.
I don't have anything better to say, but go out there and vote for this wonderful man, Donald J. Trump, who knows what it is to give it all up for this country.
So thank you.
Without further ado, I'd like to introduce Charlie Kirk now to the stage.
unidentified
Thank you, everybody.
Are we ready to win Arizona this Tuesday?
Oh, it's been a long time coming for all of us in this room.
We remember what's happened these last couple election cycles.
We have seen this movement sweep the country.
And I got to tell you guys, this is a very, very special evening.
Do you know the first ever MAGA rally was held in Phoenix, Arizona?
And tonight is as a candidate, Donald Trump's last visit as a candidate to Arizona, completing that nine-year journey.
And let's remember, why did Donald Trump choose Arizona as the first ever MAGA rally?
It's because Donald Trump's values have not changed over the last 40 years.
From the golden escalator to this stage tonight, Donald Trump was clear that our country will be invaded no longer and we will not put up with our sovereignty being jeopardized.
That's why he came to Arizona.
This state helped launch the movement that has swept the globe.
This state has been, let's just say, not exactly, what's the best word I could say, accurately reflected in elections.
Thank you, sir.
Is that a nice way to put it?
Too nice.
Well, talk to me on Wednesday.
I'll be a little more candid.
Everybody, this is a monumental time that we're living through right now.
And the stakes of this election, you all know them, and that's why you are here.
You're going to hear tonight, and you just, how awesome is that from Nicole, by the way?
Wasn't that just amazing?
There's something profound happening in this country where Kamala Harris gets Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
And we get Bobby Kennedy, Elon Musk, and Tulsi Gabbard.
They say that Trump is good at making deals.
That is the best political trade in the history of political trades, everybody.
The realignment is it does not matter if you are a Republican or Democrat.
It does not matter the label that you used to call yourself.
It simply matters.
Do you love the country and do you want to do whatever it takes to save the country from these robber barons, from these ideological zealots, and these partisans that have been stealing our money, going after our children, and sending us into no-win wars halfway across the globe?
What this election is about is where you have a Kennedy endorsing Donald Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, the former co-chair of the DNC, endorsing Donald Trump.
We are the party of free speech, of borders.
We are the party of openness to ideas, and they are the party of war, censorship, and ugliness.
And you saw it on display, where the current president of the United States thinks that you're a bunch of garbage.
Well, look around, Mr. President, because there's a lot of garbage here tonight.
And this Tuesday, we're going to take out the garbage of the White House, and we're going to be back in charge of this country.
And everybody, your work is paying off.
But tonight is not your contribution for the election.
The Democrats are not just going to roll over and hand us back this beloved state.
This is our home.
And our home, these last couple election cycles, I have a pit in my stomach still from 2020.
Are you with me?
I feel sick from what has happened in 2022.
And you guys have stepped up, but we're not there yet.
You see, in 2020, we were down a couple points at this time in early voting.
of today, we are beating the Democrats by eight points in early voting.
Eight points.
And we have a lot of work yet to do.
This weekend must be a weekend where you go completely nuts, where you go knock on every neighbor's door, where you download the Turning Point Action app and you canvass your neighborhood.
You find every low propensity voter imaginable.
I'm curious, how many of you already voted?
Raise your hand if you voted.
That's a lot of hands.
And if you have already voted, you need to go find two or three or four or five or six other people.
Your job and your duty and your task is not done.
This state is going to determine the future of the United States of America.
And you look at the issue set in front of us.
Arizona has been a victim of every failed policy by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
Open borders, record inflation.
When Donald Trump was president, you could buy a home in Phoenix, Arizona if you earned $75,000 a year.
Now, it requires $135,000 a year to purchase a home just in Phoenix, Arizona.
Not to mention the millions of people coming across the southern border.
And you look at what Donald Trump will do.
You know, Kamala Harris, they ask the question, what are you going to do for the economy?
She says, well, you know, I was raised in a middle-class family.
Okay, we got that.
And by the way, just so we're setting the record straight, Donald Trump has worked longer at McDonald's than Kamala Harris ever has.
Just for the record.
On day one, Donald Trump, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, drill, baby, drill, secure the border, end World War III, and no men in women's sports.
And that's just day one, everybody.
That's just day one.
They are not just going to hand over the country to you because we have big crowds and we're doing well in early voting.
These next couple of days, I do not want to see a spirit of cockiness or confidence.
I want you to re-watch the photos on your iPhone and go back and watch what happened when they called Arizona 90 minutes after polls closed.
Do you remember that?
I want you to recreate the anger that you felt.
I want you to recreate that pit of the stomach of those of you that lived here your whole life and you thought this state would never, ever, ever send its votes to a Democrat as president.
And no, I totally, I'm right there with you.
And so the essence is this, though, is that we can all do more to make sure that will never happen again.
And in the coming days, that will be determined.
Here is the fact.
There are hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters right now in the Valley that have received mail-in ballots that have not yet submitted them.
We need to find those people and get them in the system.
There are hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters that may or may not show up.
These are plumbers, electricians, and welders.
These are people that we love and that we cherish.
You might say, oh, my vote won't matter.
You need to convince them to go to the polls and get their vote in and bring two friends with them.
You see, what they're doing, the Democrats are counting on, is the only way that they're able to maintain with power is if we stay at home and we do not turn out in record numbers.
And this is a realignment that we are living through in real time.
As you know, I'm seeing it firsthand.
We just completed today our 25th campus stop in support of Donald Trump.
25.
And I go to college campuses, so you don't have to, but I'll tell you, there is something happening on these campuses.
We can't find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our campus events.
And I am happy to report that young men are the most conservative that they have been in 50 years, everybody.
In 50 years, the table is set.
We outnumber them.
We have more support, but do we have more votes?
The question is: we have to turn our support into votes.
And that is where the grittiness comes in.
Where this weekend, instead of just sitting around watching football, come to one of our Super Chase events that we have coming across all across the valley.
Go knock on five doors.
Go make yourself an active participant.
Say, oh, Charlie, you know, what does that mean?
Let me just demonstrate.
Very easy.
Step one: wear the MAGA hat.
Step two, go into a Denny's and people compliment it and say, have you voted?
Have you voted?
Everybody, we need to flood the zone with public support of Donald Trump in this state and get every last voter out to the polls.
Every last one.
And I will close with this.
I was raised in Chicago.
But this is my home.
And I love this state.
This is the best place in America, and I could live anywhere I want.
I live here for a reason.
No one asks where you went to college.
I wouldn't be able to tell them because I didn't go to college.
No one here cares who your parents are.
Arizona is what America should be.
It's how do you act?
What is your character?
And what do you do?
This is the best the country has to offer, this state.
State 48 is a state that loves liberty.
It's a state that loves freedom.
It's a state that cherishes the founding ideals of this nation.
I moved here for a reason.
And I believe we are all here for God's purpose, to liberate this state from Democrat control.
And we'll all see it on CNN on election night if we do the work.
We can now project the 11 electoral votes of Arizona to Donald J. Trump.
Get to work, everybody.
Let's win this thing.
And give it up for Senator Mike Lee, everybody.
Hello, Arizona.
mike lee
Hey, how about Charlie Kirk?
Is he a hero or what?
And by the way, happy Halloween to everyone.
I'm so glad that you came to join me and Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson and Donald T.A. Trump instead of greeting trick-or-treaters.
Look, if you're like me and most of the people throughout this great country, you like treats, but you're sick and tired of the tricks.
No more tricks from Washington.
And you know, speaking of trick-or-treating, I wonder what Kamala is doing tonight.
Is she at the Naval Observatory in Washington greeting the trick-or-treaters?
If so, what on earth is she giving them?
I imagine her handing out these like vegan candies or Brussels sprouts.
Maybe jello shops or vaccines.
unidentified
I don't know.
mike lee
But it's not right.
It's not right.
Look, Arizona, you are right at the epicenter.
You are the epicenter of the epicenter of America's fate.
You hear this all the time, every two years, then every four years, you hear the most important election of your lifetime.
But you know what?
This one really is.
It actually is.
Because the heart and soul of America, our future, our existence, our freedom, our ability to do what we do best, work hard and provide for our families, is under attack.
And I'm so glad that I get to be with you tonight because you're going to decide our fate.
So I thank you.
I thank you in advance for what we're going to do for us on Tuesday and what we'll learn about Tuesday night when they announce Donald J. Trump and Carrie Lake have been elected.
And they go together, don't they?
Donald Trump and Kerry Lake.
calley means
We need them both.
mike lee
Both of them.
Because in order to bring about Donald J. Trump's policies, we've got to move things through the Senate.
Now, this is an institution where the median age is 168.
Kerry Lake is a uniquely good senator in embryo.
And on Tuesday, you're going to make it happen, aren't you?
But look, let's talk about some of what's at stake.
Okay, there are a lot of issues on the ballot, but I want to talk about three in particular in the few minutes that we've got.
Number one, religious freedom is at stake.
Religious freedom is on the ballot.
And if you don't believe me, let's just look at a couple of things that will tell us why it's on the ballot.
You know, President Trump's opponent, whose name rhymes with Hamala Karis, she was once a senator.
She was a senator for four years.
I worked with her during that time.
One of the centerpieces of her legislative agenda was a bill that, like so many Democratic bills, was ironically named.
It had the Orwellian name of the Do No Harm Act.
Now, when a Democrat names a bill like that, what do you expect?
Is that going to be good?
The Do No Harm Act does the exact opposite of do no harm.
The Do No Harm Act would completely gut the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which is an important protection for your First Amendment rights to the free exercise of religion.
Are we okay with that in Arizona?
No.
unidentified
No.
mike lee
Heavens, no.
And you know, I can say that with some authority because I was born here, and my ancestors helped found, they were some of the first Mormon pioneers in Arizona and in Utah.
You know, my people came here for one reason.
They just wanted to live and be free.
They were seeking freedom because, you know, we're heretics and we were getting shot at in Missouri and Ohio and then Illinois.
So we ended up in the Rocky Mountains and settled Utah and Arizona.
This is a place where regardless of what your ancestral background is, regardless of what your faith might be, this is a place where people understand the need for faith, that faith and freedom are inextricably intertwined.
And this administration, the Donald J. Trump administration, will restore those protections that Kamala Harris wants to burn to the ground.
and we're not going to let that happen.
I've thought a lot about why it is that she's trying to undermine religious freedom so much.
And then it occurs to me, see, she was raised by a Marxist, an actual Marxist professor.
What do we know about Marxists?
Marxists don't like God.
They don't like God because they want government to be their deity.
And yet, just like the idolaters of old, it never ends well for those who depart from that, for those who indulge in that kind of idolatry.
So we're not going to accept that.
But more importantly, we know that the greatest strength behind our freedom is our religious freedom and our faith.
Because when we have faith, we understand that government's there to do a narrow, unique job.
It's not there to be our God.
And so let's remind the people in Washington, D.C. of that.
By the way, Ruben Gallego is right there, fixes these with Kamala Harris on religious freedom and everything else.
We cannot let Arizona elect Rubin.
All right, what else is on the ballot?
Parental rights, parental discretion, your ability to direct your own family, your ability to raise your own children without undue interference from federal policy.
Federal policy that would make them, oh, I don't know, compete against boys if they're girls in sports teams, share a locker room with boys or a restroom with boys, and subject them to filth in their libraries.
You know, the left is always accusing us of trying to ban books.
We're not book burners.
We just don't want filth in our classrooms.
Not in our curriculum, not in our libraries.
You're the parent.
You're in charge.
Your constitutional rights stand there to connect you to your child.
The government will never replace you as a parent, and Donald Trump and Carrie Lake will make darn sure of it.
What else is on the ballot?
Well, the economy is on the ballot.
Economic strength is on the ballot.
The strength of your own accounts, your own wallet is on the ballot.
You know, a few years ago, some researchers conducted a study to figure out what it is that makes the difference.
What amount of money it is that makes the difference between people feeling like they're prospering and getting by just fine and like they're about to sink between success and the feeling of failure.
Do you know what it often is?
It often comes down to about $300 a month.
That's not very much.
And yet, people in Arizona, just like people in Utah and people pretty much everywhere in America, the average family has to shell out an additional $1,100 or $1,200 every single month just for your basic living expenses because of Kamala Harris's reckless spending in Washington.
And it's a true fact.
These are the people.
These are the same people who said, yeah, we're going to control inflation and they controlled it with the Inflation Reduction Act, which is a lot like the Do No Harm Act.
unidentified
It did the opposite of what it said it would do.
mike lee
It's like fighting a house on fire by throwing gasoline on it.
Donald Trump and Kerry Lake have the antidote to that.
They're not going to promise that the federal government can do this directly.
What they're going to say is we're going to get the federal government out of your way.
Kamala Harris wants to raise your tax rates.
Are you okay with that?
Kamala Harris wants to tax you, literally, on money that you have not yet earned.
Are you okay with that?
Donald Trump and Kerry Lake want you to be able to keep what you earn.
That's what you deserve because you've worked hard.
Look, at the end of the day, we're not the party that calls people on the other party garbage.
We just call their policies garbage because that's what they are.
We've been told for far too long to settle.
To settle for something less than a government that honors and complies with that document some two and a half centuries old, written by wise men raised up by God to that very purpose, the United States Constitution.
We've been told to settle for a government that doesn't respect it, that doesn't think it imposes limitations, and that it shouldn't.
Well, do you know what?
The sole purpose of the Constitution, of any constitution, is to restrain the government, to make sure that you can do what you do best, work hard, provide for your families, and live your lives as you deem fit.
That's what Donald Trump and Carrie Lake both offer you.
It's not a new deal.
In fact, it's a very old deal, but it is a fair one.
It's a deal that understands that you are the sovereign.
The government works for you, not the other way around.
Kamala Harris broke it.
Donald Trump can fix it.
And it all starts with Arizona.
Let's make it happen on Tuesday.
So don't settle.
Don't settle for a government that recognizes no boundaries.
Expect limited government.
Don't settle for multi-trillion dollar deficits.
Expect a government that understands that it's your money and they're messing with your money when they spend too much.
It's time, my fellow Americans, to expect more.
It's time to expect freedom.
And it's time to elect Donald Trump and Carrie Lake.
It's now my great honor to introduce to you Kelly Maines, a man who's going to help make America healthy again.
Please welcome Kelly.
calley means
After an assassin's bullet ripped through President Trump's ear, he received a phone call.
That phone call was from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
In the previous year, RFK had built one of the largest independent political movements in modern American history, attaining 20% support among Americans and Poles.
RFK and President Trump disagreed on many things, but the topic of this call that day was unity.
Most prominently, he called to talk about what's happening to American children.
Why, in the greatest agricultural powerhouse the world has ever known, are 20% of our children malnourished?
Why are 50% of teens overweight or obese, but the USDA recommendations say that added sugar could be a healthy part of a two-year-old's diet?
Why is the American Academy of Pediatrics pushing lifetime ozibic jabs for any six-year-old who happens to be overweight instead of talking about healthy food or exercise?
Why are childhood cancer rates in an all-time high?
Why have prescriptions of antidepressants, statins, metformin doubled in prescription rates among teens in recent years?
Why do one out of 24 children in California have autism?
Why is the NIH hiding, deliberately hiding research about what the COVID vaccine is doing to children?
40% of teens today are on a pharmaceutical.
Are these making kids healthier?
Why does Harvard Medical School forbid the term mother and insist their doctors use the term birthing person?
Why is infertility skyrocketing and why are parents being shamed for asking simple questions about what they're putting into their child's bodies?
These conversations led to a defining political moment in this very stadium on August 23rd when President Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined hands and said, let's make America healthy again.
On behalf of American kids, American parents, Americans in general, they said enough.
Now, since coming down the golden escalator into American life and political life, Donald Trump has stood up against corruption and institutions holding us back.
As Bobby and President Trump described on this stage, there is no greater example of this corruption than the health care incentives that profit from a sick child.
They explain these trends can be reversed quickly by rooting out conflicts of interest in the CDC, NIH, FDA, and USDA.
And by quickly.
And by spurring benefit flexibility, eliminating mandates, opening up HSA, FSAs, and other flexible funds to let you as a patient decide what's best for your child, not some government mandates.
When Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump joined together, it represented a historic realignment in American politics.
It is no longer left versus right.
It is about the American people versus a military-industrial complex that is making us less secure, an education-industrial complex that is making our children less competitive, and a healthcare industrial complex that is profiting when Americans get sicker, fatter, more depressed, and more infertile.
Now, as President Trump told Joe Rogan, the special interests are working to stop us.
But these slithering pharma defenders do not have the voters.
Ladies and gentlemen, President Trump is backstage.
Can we please let him hear how much we appreciate that he is standing up for us?
unidentified
Standing up for us against the special interests.
calley means
We need to hear him.
Let them hear it.
Bring that emotion to balance box and let's propel President Trump and Robert Kennedy to take out this corruption.
Now, after my mom died of a preventable disease, my sister, Dr. Casey Meads, and I decided to devote our lives to reversing the chronic disease epidemic.
We wrote a book, Good Energy.
With the simple thesis that conditions plaguing us are connected, we need to stop treating conditions with ineffective drugs and silos and appreciate the interconnectedness of our beautiful human body.
This is a spiritual issue.
One of the first calls we received when this book was published was from Tucker Carlson, who wanted to promote this message.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the microphone.
Independent media is working hard to let the light out.
They're trying to squash on the other side, but we are using our First Amendment rights and getting these issues out louder than they've ever been.
Tucker, Joe Rogan, Megan Kelly, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, Chris Williams, and Jordan Peterson, they're changing the world.
It depends on free speech, and they're letting it out.
It depends on breaking free of corporate media where farmer funding is their lifeblood.
Let's please give a round of applause to Tucker and the other warriors of independent media who are changing the world.
Do not let anyone tell you this election is not about big ideas.
President Trump and his unity team of JD Vance, Elon Musk, Tulsi Galvin, Nicole Shanahan, Vivek Ramaswamy, and so many others are making this election about big, existential ideas.
And it is my pleasure to introduce a key member of this coalition, a man who is going to help President Trump make America healthy again, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
unidentified
Thank you, thank you.
robert f kennedy-jr
I smell a landslide on Tuesday I've been on the road for 19 months now And a little over.
unidentified
A little.
A little over.
robert f kennedy-jr
Thank you.
Thank you MAGA.
I lost a lot of friends and a lot of family.
But I have a much bigger family now.
We're all held together by blood, by DNA.
And that is our basic relationships in our lives, but the most important relationships come from shared values.
And everybody in this auditorium shares the value.
They love this country and they love freedom.
And they love our Bill of Rights and our Constitution.
And I saw those things in danger in a very acute way during the COVID pandemic.
And that is one of the principal reasons that I made the decision 19 months ago to run for President of the United States.
And then a little over a year ago, I left the Democratic Party.
That was a difficult decision for me because the Democratic Party was the home for me.
It was incomprehensible to me that I would ever leave it.
My great-great-grandparents came over here, all of them, in 1848 during the height of the potato famine.
They landed on the docks of Boston, penniless, and they were met there by the Democratic Party.
And the party took care of them.
It found them homes.
It found them jobs.
It located them in communities.
It was where their churches were.
And it gave them a sense of value and community and a love for this country.
And my great-grandfather, Honey Fitz, was the first Irish Catholic mayor of Boston.
His contemporary, Patrick Kennedy, was a state senator and a political boss in Boston.
My uncle John Kennedy was the first Irish Catholic president.
My uncle Ted Kennedy was the longest, second longest serving member of the United States Senate.
My father was a U.S. Senator and Attorney General and died running for President of the United States.
And it was inconceivable to me that I would ever leave the Democratic Party.
But I didn't leave the Democratic Party.
the Democratic Party left me.
The Democratic Party that I grew up with was the party of peace.
It was the party of civil rights and constitutional rights, and particularly freedom of speech.
It was the party that had skepticism toward the CIA and the national security state.
It was the party that was also skeptical of Wall Street and the corporate domination of American democracy.
It was the party of women's rights.
My uncle Ted Kennedy wrote Title IX, make sure that women could play sports in college.
And it was the party of democracy.
It was a party that fought hard to make sure that every American had the right to vote for the candidate that they chose to vote for.
Today's Democratic Party is the party of war.
It's the party of Dick Cheney.
It's the party of John Bolton.
These were the people who lied us into the Iraq War, the greatest foreign policy cataclysm in American history.
These are the men who wrote the Patriot Act that introduced the surveillance state and gave the CIA permission to spy on Americans, to propagandize Americans.
It's the party that is trying to dismantle Title IX and let men play women's sports.
The party I grew up with was the party of cops and firefighters and working people.
And now, that's the Republican Party.
The Democratic Party today is no longer the party that is skeptical of the CIA.
The CIA and the neocons wrote Kamala Harris's speech at the Democratic Convention, the most bellicose, pugnacious speech that we've ever seen at a Democratic convention.
Before she went on, she was immediately preceded by a former CIA director.
This would be unthinkable in the Democratic Party I grew up in.
They've become the party of the swamp.
They've become the party of Wall Street, of big tech, of big data, of big pharma, of big ag, big chemical, and the military-industrial complex.
And their party not of civil rights, but of division, that is tearing our country apart.
And so I made a decision to run for president 19 months ago, a little over a year ago, I left the Democratic Party for all of those reasons.
And then in August of August of this year, President Trump called me on August 23rd, immediately after his shooting at Butler.
He called me three hours later on the telephone, and he asked me to meet with him the next day in Milwaukee.
And we had a two and a half hour meeting then and a number of subsequent meetings.
And during those meetings, he urged me to unify our parties and to work with him to reclaim the values that Robert Kennedy stood for, John Kennedy stood for.
He said he wanted to end the forever wars and bring that 200 billion that we've sent to the Ukraine home to rebuild America.
He told me that he wanted to end the censorship and end the surveillance and the propaganda.
And that he wanted to end, put an end to the weaponization of law enforcement agencies against the American political system.
And that he wanted to end this corrupt merger of state and corporate power that has turned our regulatory agencies predatory against the American public.
And he said he wanted to make America healthy again and end the chronic disease epidemic that is destroying our children.
And that is an existential threat to our nation.
When my uncle was president and I was a 10-year-old boy, the rate of chronic disease in this country was 6%.
Today, it's 60%.
When my uncle was president, we spent zero on chronic disease in this country.
There were no drugs to treat it.
Today, we spend $4.3 trillion.
$4.3 trillion, that's five times our military budget.
It's the largest cost to our nation, and it is bankrupting us.
And it is destroying us morally because we are betraying our children by letting these industries poison them.
The rate of obesity at that time was 3%.
Today, it's 50% in our children.
And 74% of Americans are obese or overweight.
We didn't suddenly become lazy and gluttonous.
We are being mass poisoned by corrupt industry.
In Japan, where they don't have this kind of corruption, the obesity rate is 3%.
That's what it's supposed to be, 3%.
It's not supposed to be 50%.
And this is a national security threat.
77% of American kids are no longer qualified for military service because of chronic disease diagnoses.
And what are these diseases?
They're obesity, their neurodevelopment disorders, and I'm going to list some of them because I'm a 70-year-old man.
And when I was a boy, I never heard of any of these diseases because nobody had them.
I had 11 siblings.
I had about 70 first cousins.
And I didn't know anybody with ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, sleep disorders, Tourette syndrome, narcolepsy, ASD, or autism.
The autism rate in my generation today in 70-year-old men is 1 in 10,000.
The autism rate in our children is 1 in 34.
In California, as Callie just said, it's 1 in 24.
And the rate in boys is much higher.
We also saw this explosion of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis and Crohn's disease and lupus and juvenile diabetes, all of these exotic diseases that we never heard of as a kid.
The diabetes rate when I was a kid was effectively zero.
A typical pediatrician when I was a young boy would see one case of diabetes in his lifetime, in his career, a 40 or 50 year career.
Today, one out of every three children who walks through his office door is diabetic or pre-diabetic.
And nobody's talking about it.
Nobody's saying anything.
Nobody is recognizing that we are being mass poisoned by Big Pharma and Big Food and all these allergic diseases that suddenly appeared.
I never knew a kid anywhere in any of the schools that I went to that had a peanut allergy or food allergies or eczema.
My brother had asthma and he was told by his doctor there will never be a cure for asthma because it's so rare that nobody will ever study it.
Today, one out of every eight black children in America's cities has asthma.
What is happening to our children?
And I saw this happening and I began writing about it and the media rose up and silenced me in 2005 and nobody would talk about it.
The doctors wouldn't talk about it.
The pediatricians wouldn't talk about it.
The scientists, the government officials.
And people warned me, if you keep talking about this, you're going to destroy your career.
And I was stunned by this.
And for 19 years, since 2005, I spend 30 minutes praying every day when I get out of bed.
unidentified
And my prayer
robert f kennedy-jr
is this.
I ask God for 19 years to put me in a position where I could end the chronic disease epidemic and bring health back to our children.
And in August, God sent me Donald Trump.
Now we're five days out from an election.
And it's an election that we are certain to win.
If every vote is counted, if all the votes are counted, we are going to win this election.
Oh, now, the medical industrial complex.
And I want to remind you of this.
I've been told to go on a little longer because President Trump is not yet in the building.
unidentified
You know, I was only going to tell you this,
robert f kennedy-jr
when I was When I was seven years old, I went to the inauguration of my uncle as president in Washington, D.C.
And three days before that, President Eisenhower, the outgoing president, made what today we have to regard as the most important speech in American history.
And it was the speech where he told Americans that they should be in fear of the emergence of a military industrial complex that would erode our democracy, that would subvert our democratic institutions, that would steal our money and steal our resources and bankrupt the middle class in this country and make us weak in the long run.
And I urge you to go look at that speech because after he talks about the military industrial complex, he says, and by the way, just as bad is the medical industrial complex, which will pervert science, which will lie to the public, which will turn science to serve industrial and corporate interests, the mercantile ambitions of big corporations.
Oh, as soon as Donald Trump started talking about giving me the power, he asked me to do three things.
He asked me to root out the corruption and end the conflicts of interest in our regulatory agencies and end this corporate capture that has turned our regulatory agencies into sock puppets of the industries they're supposed to regulate.
And he asked me to restore the tradition of gold standard, empirically based,
evidence-based science and medicine in our regulatory agencies and to restore the transparency so that these agencies have to must stop hiding science from us when it clashes with the commercial ambitions of the pharmaceutical industry
And he doesn't want me to take vaccines away from people.
If you want to take a vaccine, you ought to be able to take it.
in free choice in this country.
You ought to know the risks and benefits of everything you take.
And we need good science for that.
And we need informed consent.
And he asked me to do that.
And then he asked me to end the chronic disease epidemic in this country and he said, and he said I want to see results, measurable results in the diminishment of chronic disease within two years.
And I said, Mr. President, I will do that.
This has caused a lot of aggravation and apoplexy among a certain class of the medical elites.
And today, the Washington Post and NBC and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal all did articles talking about what a catastrophe it's going to be if I get anywhere near the medical establishment.
And I read the articles because I wanted to see the names of the people who were denouncing me, and every one of them is on the pharma payroll.
These are what the media calls experts, but these are the same experts that made us the sickest country in the history of the world.
Whatever they're doing is not working.
We had during this country.
These are the guys who gave us the covet countermeasures, which shut down our schools, which closed our churches, which shut down 3.3 million businesses in this country, all the little businesses and they left open the Walmarts and Facebook and all of the big people who were cashing in on the pandemic.
And these are the people who are treating disease for them.
For these people, the most valuable asset in America is a sick child.
They don't want your child dead.
They want him sick for life.
Then he's dependent on their products.
And the more statins they prescribe for heart disease, the more heart disease goes up.
The more metaphorum they prescribe for diabetes, the more diabetes we have.
The more antidepressants they prescribe, the more people we have who are depressed.
The more ambient they describe, the more insomnia there is.
The more opioids they prescribe, the more pain there is.
The more Viagra they prescribe, a higher ED goes.
And so these drugs, their formula, this pharmaceutical paradigm, is not working.
And President Trump wants to do something different.
And somebody called me one of the anchors of ABC today, and I had an off-the-record discussion with him.
And he said, there's so much division in this country.
And I said, that's because you're causing it.
My nephew who's traveled with me for 19 months, my wife Cheryl's nephew.
And he's been working for me for 19 months and traveled everywhere with me.
And he's met President Trump many times now.
And he said to me today, he said, everybody who's met President Trump loves President Trump.
He said, you can't help but love him.
So why does half of America hate him?
They haven't met him, and the media is telling them to hate him.
And I said this: I said, you're demonizing him, you're vilifying him, you're calling us garbage, you're calling him Hitler, you're calling him a fascist.
And of course, people are going to hate him.
And I said, and by the way, you're writing all these articles condemning me coming into Washington and dismantling the pharmaceutical paradigm.
Where are you getting your salary?
From pharma.
And he said, we tell both sides of the story.
And I said, no, you don't.
And he said, well, President Trump is saying radical things.
I said, like what?
He said, he's going to pull.
He said he's going to pull CBS's license.
And I said he ought to pull CBS's license.
CBS doesn't own the airwaves.
We do.
The people of the United States own the airwaves.
CBS is licensed to use the airwaves, but only for a public purpose to advance the public benefit.
We have a doctrine in this country called the fairness doctrine that says if you're licensed to own a network, you've got to tell the news at least once a day, and you got to be fair to both sides.
And I said to this guy, I said, you know, I was running for 19 months when Ross Perot ran in 1992 for 10 months.
He did 34 live interviews on the airwaves, on the national networks.
And I said, I did four in 19 months, and your network never let me on a single time.
You're only telling one side of the story.
And you are, the only thing you'll report about Donald Trump is propaganda to make people despise him.
And you know, one of the things I'm going to advise Donald Trump to do in order to correct the chronic disease epidemic is to ban pharmaceutical advertising on TV.
There's only two countries in the world that allow pharmaceutical advertising on the airwaves.
One of them is New Zealand, and the other is us.
And we have the highest disease rate, and we buy more drugs, and they're more expensive than anywhere in the world.
Italy spends about one-sixth that we spend on health care, and Italians live seven years longer.
So whatever they're doing does not work.
And don't you want a president who is going to fix this country?
Don't you want a president who's going to end the addiction to foreign wars?
And don't you want a president who's going to end their censorship and surveillance and return freedom of speech to our country?
And don't you want a president who's going to clean out the corruption and drain the swamp at the regulatory agencies and get the chemicals out of our food and protect our children and restore their health and make America the healthiest country in the world, which it was when I was a kid.
Oh, you want a president who's going to make America healthy again?
And don't we deserve a president who will make America great again?
Will you go to the polls on Tuesday and make sure that we all ride that big garbage truck to Washington, D.C.?
Now I want to bring on my friend and one of my great heroes, Tucker Carlson.
Thank you all.
unidentified
The impact of Black Lives Matter and their brilliance.
They're not going to stop, and they should not.
Yeah!
tucker carlson
The people who are responsible for it are the most dishonest.
unidentified
We've been to the border.
You haven't been to the border.
And I haven't been to Europe.
tucker carlson
What you're watching is not a political movement.
It's evil.
Imagine a government that totally destroys the country and then criminalizes complaining about it.
Free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy.
unidentified
Yes.
tucker carlson
Well, the one thing you can't censor is a live event.
When he stood up after being shot in the face, this was no longer a man.
unidentified
This was the leader of a nation.
Trump is the man who can save the customer.
tucker carlson
Call back Trump.
unidentified
Call back Trump.
You've been with Donald Trump the last days.
Now you're in Spain.
tucker carlson
We're in downtown Madrid going to a nightly protest.
unidentified
Who blew up North Street?
You for sure.
The second you decide to tell the truth about something, you are filled with this power from somewhere else.
Try it.
tucker carlson
The more you tell the truth, the stronger you become.
unidentified
Free speech is the main right that you have.
tucker carlson
Without it, you have no other.
unidentified
Yeah!
And I've set up in Cornell this stage with my own two hands.
We've traveled this land back sight and minivans.
And all this for the fans, girls, money, and fame.
I played their game and had to scream my name.
I will show no shame.
I'm gonna die for this.
And if I come off, pack you.
She wants it.
tucker carlson
This is so cool.
Thank you.
I was just standing backstage with my wife, who never comes to events like this.
She's not very political, but she has very strong political feelings, so strong that she doesn't like to hear about politics because it winds her up.
And she says, two seconds ago, she goes, and she's a very sweet person, former religion teacher, and she goes, I want to introduce you.
And she has that kind of crazed look in her eye.
And I said, I don't know if that's a good idea.
Why do you want to introduce me?
And she said, because I want to lead the crowd in a chant, we are not garbage.
unidentified
And I thought, that's it right there.
tucker carlson
The abuse that the best people in the country have taken for the past eight years is too much.
You're garbage?
Really?
Listen to who's saying that.
Anyway, I'm really grateful to be here.
I never thought that I would be speaking at a rally for Donald Trump.
This is the fourth time I've done it.
And it has felt not only like an honor and a privilege every time, but it has felt really natural.
I'm sort of surprised.
I was in journalism for 33 years, hanging around the...
I know, someone just said, woo!
It's nothing to brag about, trust me.
I honestly feel like saying I was young and I needed the money.
You know, it's almost like when the naughty pictures of you emerge and you're like, ah, you know, that was the old me.
But I, you know, I spent my whole life standing at the back watching and I always thought, oh, politicians, they're disgusting.
By the way, I still think that.
I would never get on stage and endorse one.
You'd have to be totally bereft of a soul to do something like that.
And here I am with a full-throated, utterly sincere endorsement of Donald Trump.
How did that happen?
And I was thinking of it, I was thinking about that this morning in the shower where I do my best thinking.
I like thinking in the shower because there's no lying to yourself in the shower.
Because when you walk out of the shower and you see this kind of furry, lumpy primate in the mirror, there's no imagining your God.
You know, it's very grounding to see yourself naked at least once a day.
I always think I got to hang a black sheet over that mirror, but I keep it.
I keep it just to keep me on the ground and with perspective.
Anyway, I was thinking about it this morning and I was thinking, I've known Donald Trump, gosh, a long time just from working in television.
And what people forget about Donald Trump, who is often described as a real estate developer or a casino owner, both of which are true, but that for a huge chunk of his life, 10 years anyway, he had the number one show on television.
He had mastered the business that I was in.
And on the one hand, television is kind of a repulsive business.
It's like a P. Diddy party every night.
Ew, ew, ew, yeah.
Tell me about it.
I spent 30 years doing it.
But on the other hand, the people who are really, really successful and Trump was number one in television all have one thing in common, which is they understand people.
And the good ones like people.
And so, and they're liked back.
And by the way, you probably know this, but in the TV business, which has spent the last eight years telling you Trump is a terrifying dictator, he was loved.
I mean, everyone loved him.
And I liked him.
I mean, I liked him from the first time I talked to him 20 years ago.
He was hilarious and interesting and smart and again, incredibly funny.
And it was almost 10 years ago.
It was the winter of 2015.
I was in the car.
I'd actually interviewed Trump that morning.
I was working on a TV network that shall not be named.
unidentified
And Trump was the guest.
tucker carlson
And he was, of course, this famous star on another network, NBC.
And he did great, like he always did.
We had a great time.
And about three hours later, I was in the car going somewhere and he called me.
And he said, I just want you to know that I'm thinking of running for president.
And I just did not take it seriously at all.
And I said, oh, yeah, I'm running for president, okay.
You know, because everyone in TV thinks I should be president.
Joe Scarborough wakes up every morning, I should be president.
You know, but he's not really going to run because you don't want to give up the salary and it's hard to run for president.
It's just a way to sell a book or whatever.
So I kind of laughed.
And he said, no, I'm going to surprise you.
And it was such a weird conversation that I actually wrote it down in my calendar.
I looked it up today.
I wrote it down.
Donald Trump calls, says he's going to run for president because there was something in his voice that didn't sound like the Trump I thought I knew.
There was a resolve there that I thought was amazing.
And of course, the rest is history.
Almost 10 years later, he has completely transformed the country and the world and the political party under whose banner he ran, the Republican Party.
And for me, it was this incredible journey of watching this guy, covering him, knowing him, to where I am now, which is speaking on a stage without any shame at all, not getting paid for it, doing it because I really, really mean it, and endorsing him for president.
And so I just want to explain how I got here because I think it says a lot about who Trump is.
So the first thing I noticed about Trump was that everybody in the Republican Party I had suspicions about hated him immediately.
There was something about Donald Trump that whenever he spoke, that the people I'd always thought were kind of false, the Jonah Goldbergs of the world, the Mitch McConnells of the world.
They, no, I mean, boo-boo-boo.
But I mean, these were leading figures in the Republican Party.
My neighbors in Washington, D.C., who are Republicans.
You know, here Trump comes out of nowhere.
He seems to be gaining traction.
People who never voted Republican, who never voted at all, seemed to like Trump.
This seemed like great news if you're trying to expand your political party.
And yet the Republicans in Washington were so offended by Trump that they couldn't even talk about him.
I remember being at a Christmas party in 2015 with my aforementioned sweet wife at our neighbor's house.
You know, all kinds of people sitting around.
And someone mentioned Trump, and my wife, who's not political at all, says, I like Trump.
I remember one of my neighbors goes, oh, yeah, I like Trump.
Oh, that's hilarious.
And my wife goes, no, no, I do like Trump.
Why?
Is that bad?
And people, it was like the devil getting splashed with holy water.
They just moved back slowly, staring at her, like, is this person dangerous?
That was such a shocking thing to say in Northwest DC in 2015.
And I began to ask myself, why is Donald Trump so threatening?
Is it because he's got some crazed extremist program?
unidentified
No.
tucker carlson
Everything he said was kind of moderate and sensible.
Like, I don't know, we should have a border.
And if we're going to have NATO, maybe the countries in NATO should help pay for it.
If we're going to defend Europe, maybe they could, you know, pony up a little bit.
Why are we paying the entire bill?
That didn't seem crazy to me.
Boy, they treated Trump like he was a dangerous freak.
Like he just escaped from the state mental institution, shackles on his arm and a butcher knife in his hand.
unidentified
Stop this man.
tucker carlson
And I just remember watching this.
I didn't really, I wasn't emotional about it at first.
I remember thinking, my neighbors all seem so reasonable and sensible, even the Democrats.
What kind of normal people?
I mean, I lived on their street.
Why are they so mad about a guy who says stuff like, we should have a border?
And then I realized that they hated Trump because Trump asked questions they couldn't answer.
Like, why are we doing it this way?
And I remember thinking and saying, well, I don't know.
Why don't you just answer his question?
If not having a border is such a good idea, if it's so important to have a tight labor market, or if you think tariffs are so terrible, why don't you just explain why?
Why are you yelling at the guy?
No matter what he said, he would get up and say, I think we should have tariffs.
And they would say, racist!
And I would think to myself, what do tariffs have to do with race?
I was completely confused.
And then over time, within about a year, I realized people hated Trump because they were guilty of crimes.
And those people were my neighbors and co-workers.
My mind exploded.
I mean, ultimately, I had to leave the city where I spent my entire life.
Because thanks to Donald Trump, I saw what it really was, which was a scam.
It was the richest city in the United States.
Its suburbs, eight out of 10 of the richest suburbs were suburbs of Washington, D.C., and we didn't make anything.
There was no business there.
There was no production of anything.
By the way, there was also no creativity or open-mindedness.
How did these people get so rich?
Well, by stealing.
That's how.
That had never occurred to me till Trump came.
And yet everybody involved in the grift knew instantly the jig was up.
If this guy keeps talking, we're in deep trouble.
And I'm not even sure, and he's coming on stage in a minute, and maybe we can ask him.
I'm not even sure that when he got to Washington, Donald Trump understood how corrupt the city was.
I'm not sure he even knew.
He sensed there was a problem.
Neither he nor me nor any normal person had any idea that even before he got to the city, the CIA and the FBI would be working to destroy him.
That's the threat that he posed to them.
And what was that threat?
Just being honest in a simple way about what he saw, telling the truth.
They saw the truth as a mortal threat and they see the truth as a mortal threat now.
I really think, I mean, look, let's be completely honest.
Donald Trump is the choice of American voters for president.
That's not wish fulfillment.
I'm not saying that because I want it to be true, though I do.
I'm saying that because it's completely obvious.
There is no Democrat running for anything who could fill a hall like this, who could do it four times a day for a year.
There's not one.
There's no Republican in Washington.
Could Mitch McConnell fill this hall?
I don't think so.
Yeah, every boo is deserved if you only knew how deserved those boos were.
One of the things that we learned from Donald Trump, one of the many, many things, completely changed my life watching it.
One of the many things we learned is that the Republican Party, the leaders of the Republican Party, really despised their own voters.
They had zero interest in improving their lives.
And we know this because as 100,000 a year died of drug overdose, as their towns died from offshoring of industry, as their towns were invaded from people from foreign countries who were here illegally, they did nothing.
Their attention was focused abroad to the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
That's where all the money went.
That's where all the prayers went.
That's where all the attention went because that's all they cared about.
They didn't care at all about their own voters.
And by the way, I didn't really know that.
I think most people in this room sense that.
You know when someone doesn't care about you, you can feel it.
You can feel the contempt coming off them in oily waves.
That's exactly what that is.
It's contempt.
Joe Biden's not the only one who thinks you're garbage, actually.
Mitch McConnell agrees with that.
That's a fact.
And that's one of the reasons that they don't want Donald Trump back in Washington.
But the main reason they don't want Donald Trump back in Washington is something called disclosure.
Do you know what disclosure is?
Disclosure means sunlight.
Disclosure is the principle that you, as an American citizen, an equity owner of this country, not a renter, not a serf, not a slave, but as a citizen, an owner of this country, a person on whose behalf the government exists.
There's no other reason to have the government except to serve you, that you have a right to know what that government is doing with your money in your name.
It's not a privilege that you are granted.
If they're in a good mood one day, you can know a little bit more about how John F. Kennedy was murdered in 1963.
You have an absolute moral right to know because you own it.
They're your employees who somehow have decided they're your overlords.
And they're very concerned that if Donald Trump comes back to Washington, we're going to find out what's happened to the $100 billion that we've sent Ukraine over the past two and a half years.
What happened to that money?
There's never been an audit of it.
Where do you think it went?
Have you been to McLean recently?
unidentified
Yeah.
tucker carlson
It's not just Hunter Biden, by the way.
Hunter Biden, I mean, to his great credit, was so high on crack, he couldn't steal half as much as, you know, your average contractor in Washington and his friends.
So the truth is, actual crimes have taken place.
Crimes that made people rich, crimes that hurt American citizens, and you're not allowed to know their scale or the details about any of them because it's classified.
And they're terrified if Donald Trump gets back accompanied by a full cast of reformers, not alone this time.
Not a single man riding into Washington, man against the machine.
It's hard to do that.
unidentified
He did it.
tucker carlson
He fought off two impeachment attempts for daring to do it.
But if he comes back with, I don't know, Bobby Kennedy and Elon Musk, when he comes back with an army of people who know exactly what's up, they know what's going on.
They know where the bodies are likely to be buried, and they're coming with shovels to dig them up.
What you're seeing now is actual panic and desperation.
And I've just, I guess I've kind of backhandedly defended Hunter Biden on the grounds that he was so out of it, he had no idea what was actually going on.
I'll extend the same courtesy to Kamala Harris.
And that creepy guy who's following around on the campaign trail.
By the way, AOC just said the other day, speaking of which, AOC, that would be Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
I love that.
She's this revolutionary who's named after a conquistador and doesn't even know it.
Your last name is Cortez, honey.
Sit this one out.
Excuse me.
And people would be like, Larry Mussolini shows up and is like, no, I'm against fascism, really.
All right.
Got it.
What a moron.
But she was at a rally in Vegas yesterday and she goes, Doug M. Hoff is the model of masculinity.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Memo to any unmarried women here.
Do not date a feminist man.
They'll smack you around, trust me.
It's the weak ones you have to be afraid of, but it's the strong ones they're afraid of because they know that what they've done and have been doing for decades could be exposed.
And so this is existential for them.
So I would just say, without putting too fine a point on it, but every person in this room senses what I'm talking about.
Do not underestimate what they are capable of.
To them, this is not an election.
It's much bigger than that.
These are people who think they have a moral right to rule and that you were born in the serf class and there you will stay.
They believe that.
These same people lecturing us about democracy.
They think it is their right to be in charge, as if anyone in a democracy has a right to be in charge.
People serve at the pleasure of the population for the benefit of the population.
It's literally that simple.
But they don't believe that.
Donald Trump has stood in the face of that group, which includes every power center, not simply in the United States, but in the world, almost since the day he called me in the car in the winter of 2015 and said he was dead serious about running.
And he has faced them off and he has endured more punishment, graver trials than any politician in the history of this country.
And he didn't need to.
He didn't need to.
At any point, he could have said, you know what?
I've got a lot of grandchildren, some of whom I enjoy playing golf with.
I'm pretty rich, actually.
You may have heard that.
And I don't need this.
And he has bulled forward with energy and cheerfulness from beginning to end.
And I would submit, since AOC raised the question of what a real man looks like, let me just tell you my view of what a real man looks like.
A real man is a cheerful man.
And he's cheerful because he's brave.
Brave people have hope because they have a mission and they're strong inside.
And they know because they are living for something greater than themselves that even if they die, they don't die.
The mission lives on.
And that's what gives them heart and cheerfulness.
They are not morose.
They are not self-pitying.
They are bright, bright-eyed, cheerful, energetic, and in command.
And that is exactly what Trump has proven to be, including on the day he was shot in the face.
And I know because I talked to him that night.
And he made a joke about it.
And I sometimes think, and I'm a pretty tough guy.
I've been fired by all these cable networks.
unidentified
It's really hard to be fired by a cable network.
tucker carlson
I've really been through it.
Thank me for my service later.
It's absurd.
All of us are the heroes of our own drama, of course, no matter what it is.
You teach middle school social studies.
I'm sure you come home and think, man, I fought a battle today.
You run some stupid cable TV show and you're like, I'm tough as hell.
Try getting shot in the face at a rally and then pushing off the secret service and standing up with your fist in the air.
Try that.
That was the most revealing moment I have ever seen in the life, not just of any politician, but of any person I have known personally.
Someone I actually know.
And that's the moment that little boys dream about.
That's, I mean, every little boy, because men do not become men organically, they have to prove that they're men.
And every little boy dreams about some war scenario.
unidentified
Everyone's dead but me and I'm charging the machine gun nest because I'm the bravest man.
tucker carlson
Would you?
Would you be the bravest man?
Or would you be in fetal position calling out your mom's name?
I don't know.
unidentified
We don't know.
tucker carlson
You haven't been put in that position.
I haven't either.
Donald Trump just was on camera.
It was so unbelievable that Democrats on MSNBC and the internet immediately accused him of faking it on the grounds that nobody could be that brave.
And it's true, that's not a kind of Doug Mhoff thing to do.
Kind of hard to imagine the second gentleman standing up and being like, fight, fight, fight.
You know, or Tim Walz.
But the truth is, masculinity is still an indispensable thing.
I'm sorry.
It is.
Even in an age of Uber Eats and air conditioning, no one's going to have to slay a mastodon with a spear, but you still need a brave man in charge.
Because it's a rough world and unexpected things happen.
And as my friend Mike Tyson said famously, everybody got a plan until he gets hit in the face.
So what's your plan when you get shot in the face?
You don't have a plan.
You act purely on instincts, and that's when we find out if you're a leader or not.
And that's what we learned.
And we're learning it still.
We're learning it still because even if you or me have been able to pull that off, you think that's the end?
You think that's the last time they're going to try to do that to you?
Are you joking?
No, probably not.
You think, even if you manage to get the most votes, you can get elected.
If you get elected, what's going to be like to govern?
It is an unending struggle every single day to represent the people you've promised to represent, the people who otherwise have no representation, none.
Because trust me, outside of Donald Trump, very few people in Washington care about you.
And I mean that because you're not Ukrainian.
But he does care.
And because he cares, because at this point, I don't care if you're a New York Times correspondent, and if there are any in this room, let me raise my middle finger in your face.
And that is heartfelt.
I mean that.
That's not just some talking point I'm throwing out there to make you feel good.
My hostility toward legacy media is earned.
I know them.
They're worse than you think.
But that's not just a talking point.
That is real.
Someone who is willing to do that on your behalf is not only the man you need, he's the only man who can represent you.
Because that's what it's going to take.
You're going to have to stare down the barrel of the hate aimed at you, not just from assorted people on the internet, but from the most powerful people on the planet.
And you're going to have to stand up and straight and say, onward, with a smile on your face every day.
And he's the only person I have ever met in my entire 55 years on this planet who can do that.
So with that, let me get my handheld mic to introduce the former and next president.
Now I am more honored than I've been in a long time in memory.
Oh, there he is.
Ladies and gentlemen, Donald J. Trump.
Thank you, Mr. President.
donald j trump
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
tucker carlson
So, I've been thinking this for the past eight years, and I think I've thought it more frequently this year.
What motivates you to keep going?
donald j trump
Who the hell knows?
I don't know.
I just want to be with people like this.
There's so much love in this room.
So much love, right?
It's pretty easy.
I could have a lot of different, I have a lot of alternatives.
I could be at a beautiful beach with the waves hitting me in the face and all that boring stuff.
And I've been there, and you get very bored pretty easily.
I have one thing in mind.
It's called Make America Great Again.
That's all I think about.
tucker carlson
Amen.
But was there ever a moment, I mean, I don't want to go through the litany, but I was thinking about it today, because every person in this room has followed this so carefully.
But if you make a list of all the attacks, some of which are just mind-boggling in their viciousness and unfairness, culminating with being shot, was there ever a moment where you just thought, you know, come on, this is too much?
donald j trump
You like not to think about that, honestly.
And there are moments when you don't feel so good about things, but you try not to do that.
You try not to.
I always like to look forward.
I don't like to look so much in the present.
I don't like to look in the past so much, other than you have to learn from the past.
It's history.
You have to learn.
Otherwise, you're a very foolish person.
But I like to look forward.
I like to think of the positive.
I think you have to have a sort of the positive, the power of positive thinking in a way.
And I don't know.
It's just a mission that I'm on.
I felt we did great in the first election, 2016.
We did much better in the second election.
Bad things happened.
Bad, bad, bad things happened.
And had I not done well in the second, I would have said, all right, that's it, because you wouldn't have done well.
But I knew how well we did.
And now you're right about that.
But no, but if I didn't do, you know, we got millions and millions more votes in the second election, which rarely happens to a president.
Usually they get less.
Almost all the time they get less.
Obama got less.
unidentified
Barack Hussain, Obama, he got a lot less.
donald j trump
And had we not done well, but I knew how well we did.
And I said, well, let's see how they do.
And I waited and I waited around for a year and I looked at these people and Biden was grossly incompetent.
I saw that.
His vice president wasn't even a discussion.
She came in last.
She was the first one to get out of the Democrat primary.
She was, I guess, number 22.
I think there were 22 people and she was the last.
She was the last or first out, if you want to look at it that way.
She never got to Iowa.
But I was watching, and if they could do well, I would have been very happy.
Actually, I would have been very satisfied.
But they were grossly incompetent.
And when I watched what they were doing and how they were destroying this country at the border, I mean, millions and millions of people, I'm sure we have some in here tonight with us, you know, murderers and drug dealers, prisoners.
You know, they have prisons from all over the world are being emptied out into our country all over the world, the Congo and Africa, not just South America, you know this.
They're opening up their prisons and they're bringing them into our country.
Anyway, so I watched other things too.
I watched, I mean, Afghanistan, you take a look at Afghanistan, what happened with Afghanistan, how bad that was.
I wanted to get out.
We were getting out.
We were going to keep Bagram, but we were getting out with dignity and strength.
We were strong.
And the way they got out, they took the soldiers out first.
No, you take the soldiers out last.
Anybody would know that.
And you watched all of the things that happened.
And I said, we're going to do this thing.
We're going to do it again.
And we're doing well.
I mean, now we're going to know in four days.
But we're doing very well.
I think we're leading by a lot.
And if we can keep them, if we can keep that cheating down, because they're a bunch of cheats, if we can keep that cheating down, we're going to have a tremendous victory.
I think it'll go down as one of the greatest victories of all time.
unidentified
So we're going to have some, we're going to have an exciting time.
donald j trump
We're going to have an exciting time.
tucker carlson
So you were in New Mexico the other day.
New Mexico is considered a pretty blue state.
What were you doing there?
donald j trump
Well, they're also a border state.
They have people pouring in by the tens of thousands, and they're being decimated.
They're being hurt very badly.
They also have a pretty rotten economy for a lot of reasons.
But what they really have is tremendous inflation.
But beyond that, because I happen to think that the border is the single biggest issue.
I think the border is a bigger issue than inflation.
Inflation is destroying, and it's a country buster.
You know, inflation, it's broken up many countries, including Germany from many years ago.
Lots of, you look at where there was big, big inflation.
This was the biggest inflation and the worst inflation we've ever had.
They say in 48 years, they don't include a lot of things.
It was the worst inflation we've ever had.
Inflation is a country buster.
So I'm not trying to minimize that, but I think the biggest problem and the worst thing that's happened to this country is allowing millions of people in here that are criminal people.
Look, when you empty out your prisons and you put them into the United States, a lot of bad things happen.
And they're coming in totally unvetted, totally unchecked.
They're pouring in.
Venezuela has allowed thousands and thousands of the roughest prisoners in the world to come in.
You know their crime rate.
Their crime rate is way down.
I think like 70%, 72%.
They've taken from Caracas and the cities in Venezuela where they have the problem.
They've taken the street gangs and they've delivered them into the United States.
Thank you very much.
They've taken their criminals.
They've taken their drug dealers and drug lords.
They've taken them out of Caracas and they brought them into the United States.
And it is a disgrace.
And we are going to have to do a very large deportation because you can't live like that.
You can't.
It cannot be sustained, Tucker.
It cannot be sustained.
I think you know that better than anybody.
tucker carlson
So I do know.
I think it's the gravest crime ever committed against the United States ever by any country.
We committed, our leaders committed against us.
But it does raise the question of motive.
It hasn't helped the labor market any.
It hasn't helped Americans at all.
I mean, you've heard a Democratic senator stood up and said the United States military should take these people.
We should give them guns.
New York City has given them guns in the police department.
Like, you wonder, like, what is going on here?
donald j trump
So it's the hardest thing.
You know, in business, and you like to go and where you started from, you sort of like to understand where the other side's coming from.
So here you're looking at something.
Why do they want men in women's sports?
And, you know, I've been doing this now.
I used to say I was very proud to say I wasn't a politician, but I guess after a while you're sort of a politician.
I think you qualify, yeah.
And, you know, so, I mean, I hate to say it, but you like to know where the other side's coming from.
And I'll say, why do they want to have men, and they're so emphatic about it, men playing in women's sports.
You see what's happening in volleyball, what's happening in swimming, what's happening in weightlifting.
How about weightlifting, where records that stood for 18 years, you know, are being broken like by hundreds of pounds.
The whole thing is crazy.
Then you say, why do they want to have transition, I call them transition operations by the thousands.
If you just say, well, I'm thinking about it, they throw you into an operating table.
And you say, why do they want to have that?
Who wants that?
Who wants to have open borders, which are, they're all the same thing.
They don't make any sense.
You know, we're the party of common sense, right?
Because I think we're really the party of common sense.
And they're only, there can only be a couple of reasons.
Number one, they're stupid.
Well, they're not stupid because you can't be stupid.
No, but you can't be stupid and be that good at cheating on elections, okay?
Because they're great at that.
So they could be stupid.
They could also hate our country.
They could hate our country.
They may hate our country.
They may not even know it.
You know, they may not.
A lot of people don't know it, but they.
And the other thing is they want to cheat on elections by signing these people up.
And they are trying to sign people up.
They're trying to sign people up that don't even know what country they're in, okay?
So that's the other thing.
So it's one of those three things.
Nobody really knows.
But you'd say, okay, so I've been doing this for a while.
I've never had anybody, I've had people come up and say, gee, it would be great if you could get the taxes down.
Gee, it would be great if you could do this.
It would be hundreds of things.
Nobody's ever come up to me and said, it's really important to me that we allow men to play in women's sports.
Nobody.
Nobody.
And yet it's such a big deal.
It's such a big deal.
tucker carlson
So you think the point may be just to destroy, just to break the country?
donald j trump
It could be they hate our country.
I mean, they may hate our country.
And we deal with real scum.
I mean, like a guy like Adam, Adam Shifty Sheff.
He's a sleaze bag.
And he's probably going to be a senator, if you can believe it.
But I call him watermelon head.
He has the no, he's unattractive both inside and out.
That is.
No, but this is a really bad guy.
This is a dishonest guy.
Not a dumb guy at all.
He's got the smallest neck I've ever seen on a human being.
He will never be a football player, I can tell you.
But he's a smart guy, but he's just a sleazebag.
You know, there's nothing else he could say.
I'll give you, should I give you a little example?
tucker carlson
I hope you will.
I'm really enjoying this a lot.
donald j trump
This gentleman happens to like my son, Don, I think, because he likes you.
Now, maybe you don't, but he likes you.
I have a son, Don, who's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
He's a wild man.
A little wild.
I would say he's a little wild.
tucker carlson
In a good way.
donald j trump
But in a good way.
He's a very good kid.
And I read about, like, all of a sudden, he's involved with Russia, Russia, Russia.
I said, but I know him so well.
Is my boy, I know exactly.
He knows less about Russia than the cameraman that's sitting right there who's never been.
Don doesn't know anything about Russia.
But one day, about two years, three years before, they met a whole group of people, met with a Russian lawyer having to do with the Novitsky Act or something, having to do with child adoption.
unidentified
Child adoption.
donald j trump
Crazy.
But she was a Russian.
Now, everybody in Congress knew this woman.
But anyway, they go after him.
Now, think of this.
Russia, Russia, Russia was a major hoax.
It's now been adjudged to be a total major hoax.
We had the Mueller Commission.
We had everybody.
It was a hoax.
It was made up to justify why Hillary Clinton lost the election, which he wasn't supposed to lose.
It was a it was a totally.
And it was made up by Schiff and Hillary and some other sleep, just total sleazeballs.
And what happened is the fake news media, which is back there, you do know that.
They're always around someplace.
But what happened is the fake news media, what they said is it started with a simple move.
How did you lose the election?
It was Russia.
And I'm saying to myself, wait a minute, I won this election.
What the hell did Russia have to do with it?
And then it went, and it was only supposed to be a one-day deal by the Democrats.
In other words, it was going to, but the press picked it up and they liked it.
They like, ooh, Russia, that sounds good.
You covered it better than you were funny.
He'd go, Russia, Russia, Russia.
He'd go crazy.
But it drove you crazy, didn't it?
unidentified
Because you knew it was so insane and always believed it.
donald j trump
It was such a hoax.
They actually tried starting it up about two months ago.
Did you see?
It flopped.
This time, the press just couldn't get away with it.
I'll tell you about our lawsuit having to do with the Pulitzer.
You know, we brought a lawsuit against, because they said the New York Times, Washington Post, they got the Pulitzer Prize for accurate and beautiful reporting on the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
You know, the whole thing.
And I sued them, and it's doing very well, by the way.
I want the reporters to give back their awards because they were wrong.
There were plenty of guys that were right, like you and Sean, and there were plenty of guys that were right.
But here's the thing.
So with Shifty Schiff, see, that's the weave.
See, we start.
You know about the weave, right?
unidentified
Start.
donald j trump
As long as you come back to the right location.
So what happens?
You understand that?
tucker carlson
Yeah.
donald j trump
Somebody said, does he ramble?
I said, I don't ramble.
I do the weave.
I covered many, many subjects.
And you always come back to the right.
That's genius.
There's a difference between rambling and genius.
Okay.
So now getting back to the point.
So I have a son, Don, a good guy, knows nothing about Russia, has zero.
And they went through millions of phone calls.
There wasn't one call to Russia, et cetera, et cetera.
So Shifty Schiff, Adam Schiff, a real sleazeback.
He's at an intelligence meeting, and he's not supposed to be talking.
But wherever he goes, the press is out there standing because he's provocative or whatever the hell.
Or because they figure they'll get something bad on me, which is probably much more accurate.
So Schiff comes out.
Now think of this, how bad a person you have to be.
I have a son, and I love my son.
I love all my children.
You love your children.
I mean, there are a couple of people that, who doesn't love their children?
There'll be about 20 people out there.
But I have a son, and I love my son.
And he's a good boy.
He's a good guy.
You know, Eric, you know, Baron.
I love my kids.
I have good kids.
But I love my son.
And Schiff goes out.
Now, think of this.
It was him and Crooked Hillary and some other people.
They conceived of this hoax.
So they know it's a hoax.
They know it's not real because it's a made-up story that they conceived and, you know, they spied on my campaign, all this stuff.
But they conceived of the story, so he knows the story is false, and yet he leaves an intelligence meeting, goes to the press, which is waiting outside, a lot of press, and he says something to the effect, Donald Trump Jr., the son of the president of the United States, will be going to jail.
He will spend many years in prison for what he's done to our nation.
And think of how bad you have to be.
He just said that an innocent kid is going to go to prison on a story that's a bakaq story.
It's a made-up story.
And he said, my son, the president's son, is going to spend many years in prison.
I called my son.
I said, hey, Don, how's everything?
Are you okay with this?
He said, Dad, I don't know what they're talking about.
He was, and he was, I don't know what they're talking about.
I didn't want to get into it too much because I didn't want to make him nervous.
And I said, well, you don't know anything about Russia.
He said, Dad, I don't know anything.
I have nothing.
I don't know what they're talking about.
So think of this.
It turned out the Mueller report, and I tell you, it was an amazing thing that happened because I had 18 radical left lunatics, and I had Mueller who didn't know where the hell he was, okay?
You saw that in the hearings.
But think of this.
I had no chance.
There was a stack court, but I had an angel in that court.
I had somebody that wouldn't allow them to do what some of the sleaze bags that you know and you know who they are.
Somebody on that court, and I think I know the person, high-quality person, and would not allow them to do what they would have loved to have done, is convict, even though you're totally innocent, you didn't even know what the hell.
So we were exonerated fully.
There was no hoax, there was no anything.
We were exonerated fully.
But just think of it.
Just think.
And the Mueller report came out, and it was a complete exoneration.
But here's a guy that made up a story that tried to put my son in prison for years.
And he knew the story was false.
They made it up.
How bad a person do you have to be?
And I heard the son of the president of the United States is going to jail and he'll be there for many years on a story.
Now, how would you feel if you're the kid?
I mean, you're a young kid and you're hearing this crap.
Just think of it.
But how bad do you have to be?
So you know it's fake because he made it up.
And you know, he's a storyteller, too.
You know, he writes little bullshit stories.
You know that, right?
But I just think they're really, we have some, and you know, I talk about the enemy from within, and they do have, they're the greatest con people in the world.
unidentified
Oh, they talk about how dare that's a threat to democracy.
donald j trump
They're always, they're the threat to democracy.
You know, the amazing thing.
The amazing thing is where they say he wants to become elected and he wants to put people in jail.
How terrible.
They want, that's what they've been trying to do to me for four years.
tucker carlson
And I should say that your son, Don, had five small children.
Can you imagine threatening a man with five kids with prison for a crime he didn't commit?
So you said that you were saved in the end by an angel.
How have your views about God changed in the last eight years, and particularly after getting shot?
donald j trump
Well, look, I've always been a believer, but I wouldn't say, you know, there's a certain pastor, Robert Jeffers, and I didn't know, name is Robert Jeffress, nice guy from Texas.
And he said, you know, Trump may not be the best Christian of all, but he's the only one going to take us to the promised land because he's the best leader and he's the toughest guy and he's going to be able to get us through this crazy lot.
And he was a big supporter.
And now I have unbelievable evangelical and Christian support because I have.
I mean, I've done a great job for them.
And we're, you know, we're together.
But he said he may not know the Bible quite as well as other people are supposed to.
But, you know, he also did something.
They picked Ronald Reagan over Jimmy Carter a long time ago.
You know, that sort of, that was, they said he wasn't quite as religious, but he's the guy that's going to get the job done.
And I really got, I did a great job with a lot of things having to do with saving religion because these people want to put religion out of business.
These people are, you know, they go crazy when I say the enemy from within.
And I said, look, we have China, we have Russia, we have Kim Jong-un of North Korea.
We have a lot of people out there.
But if you have a smart president, I had a great relationship with President Xi until the China virus came in.
And that was a bridge too far, but we'll have a very good relationship.
And there's reasons for them to want to like us.
There's big reasons.
But if you have a smart president, that kind of smart, meaning with people, if you have a smart president, somebody that knows what's happening, you're going to be fine.
But, you know, we do have an enemy from within.
We have some very bad people.
And those people are also very dangerous.
They would like to take down our country.
They'd like to have our country be a nice communist country or fascist in any way they can.
And we have to be careful of that.
But the greatest con artists in the world, because as soon as I said an enemy from within, they said, oh, he wants, oh, he's saying an enemy from within.
These are sick puppies, I'm telling you.
tucker carlson
Well, I mean, I got to say, just objectively, I noticed that the second you left and Biden came in, we didn't have any more Antifa riots, which makes me wonder if, like, how is Antifa not the militia of the Democratic Party?
donald j trump
Yeah, but you do have, you did have a lot of riots, and you have a lot of, you have a lot of people being hurt in a different way.
You have a lot of people being hurt very, very badly.
We stopped, you know, we had a period of time where they wanted to tear down statues.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
donald j trump
And, you know, they thought the statue of Abraham Lincoln should be ripped down immediately and a couple of others.
And we stopped them.
I signed an old bill that was old and dusty.
It was like from 1910, the United Statues Act of like 1910.
It said that if you tear down a statue or even get near it, if you don't want it, up to the president, you go to jail for 10 years.
And when they started getting a little bit frisky, I took that old dusty statue, hadn't been used in a long time.
We took it out.
And they were getting a little wild.
Do you remember that period of time?
And I said, I had a little news conference and I said, anybody that touches a statue, they were going to rip down Andrew Johnson.
They were going to rip down Andrew Jackson.
And the rope was already on them.
And I mean, I saw what was going on.
And I signed that thing and I had a news conference.
I said, anybody that touches a statue, if you touch the statue, you're going to jail for 10 years with no parole, no early, no early getting out.
And I looked, because there was a little discord in Washington.
I looked at those people from the back and I saw those people.
I saw about 1,000 asses.
They were facing me as they headed, as they headed out of town.
They were heading out of town.
And we never heard from them again until recently.
Until recently, when you had about two months ago, you had some horrible riots in Washington, D.C., where they took spray paint and they sprayed the limestone lions.
And they burned the American flags badly.
And, you know, I'd like to see anybody that burns the American flag one year in jail.
I really believe that.
tucker carlson
You mentioned the enemy within.
It's pretty clear.
Well, it's not clear.
It's a fact that the CIA and the FBI, which are absolutely not allowed by law to have any influence in American politics, because that's the end of democracy.
Both of them and a bunch of other intel agencies worked against you on behalf of the Democratic Party from the minute you got elected in 2016.
And they're still doing it.
They're working against you now.
What will you do about that?
donald j trump
So one thing I've learned in Washington, it's all people.
You got to get the right people.
So when I got elected, I was only, according to the fake news, which I think in this case it wasn't fake, they said I was here 17 times during the course of my life and I never stayed over.
So I wasn't a Washington person.
I was a New York person.
I knew New York, but I didn't know Washington.
And all of a sudden, I'm the president of the United States.
I'm saying, and I did, I didn't know anybody.
I said, hello, anybody.
Does anybody would like to have dinner or something?
But so I had to rely on rhinos and good people too.
Even some good rhinos.
There aren't too many of them.
They're sort of a dying breed right now, I would say, actually.
But I had to rely on people that I didn't know to give me information.
And I won't use any specifics, but I had some people in government with me and I realized.
And you know what?
They have pretty much different philosophies than I would have or than you would have.
And for the most part, we had great people.
I mean, we had great trade people.
I had great military people.
I had the real military, not the millis of, you know, they're stupid people.
Some of these people.
By the way, every one of those people having to do with Afghanistan should be fired immediately.
Every general should be fired immediately.
You know, Biden doesn't fire anybody.
That's why he never has books written about.
Well, two reasons.
Number one, nobody cares about him.
It's not like, oh, let's write a book about Biden.
Nobody cares.
But the other thing is that he never, I don't think, has he fired anybody.
I don't think he's fired.
I fired a lot of people.
I didn't like people.
I fired them.
And then you immediately get called by the New York Times or somebody because they're very, I mean, they truly are the enemy of the people.
They're the enemy of the people.
Those people right there, not all of them, but about 91%.
They're the enemy of the people.
So they'll say, oh, he got fired, therefore he...
And the interesting thing about firing people, you can fire them really nice, like even take...
I've taken months, nice and easy, have lunch, bah, let's think about it, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
In the end, they get fired, and then they wake up the next morning, that son of a bitch fired me, right?
Or you can do like I did on The Apprentice, you're fired, get the hell out of here.
Doesn't matter.
When you fire somebody, you fire somebody.
I've learned after years, you might as well just fire them.
Then I do another thing.
I say, and I wouldn't do that again.
Because I'm a nice person.
I don't want to hurt somebody.
I say, give me a letter.
You know what that means.
Give me a letter.
I said, look, it's not working out.
You're not the guy for me.
Give me a letter of resignations.
I say, give me a letter.
Everyone knows what that means.
So, a guy will write a letter, dear, and then he'll say he quit.
And that's okay.
That's what I'm, you know.
The problem is when that happens with me, it's always a big story, so-and-so quits.
Virtually every person that gave me a letter, I said, give me a letter.
Virtually every person that quit, they only quit because I said essentially, you're fired, get the hell out of here.
But I want to be nice because I'm not looking to fire somebody publicly.
I wouldn't do that anymore.
I'm just going to say, if somebody doesn't work out, and no matter how good you are, you always have people that don't work out.
It's interesting.
Sometimes people think they're okay, maybe not so great, they turn out to be great.
And sometimes you say, This guy is going to be phenomenal, and he turns out to be a stiff.
But I had some, I had some people that were, you know, like a guy like John Bolton.
A friend of mine calls me after I put him on.
He said, Don't hire that guy.
He's no good.
He's bad news.
He's dumb as a rock and all that stuff.
I said, It's a problem, but I like him for a different reason.
He's the one that got Bush, him and Cheney, and a couple of other of these lunatics.
They got them to go into the Middle East and to create war in the Middle East to spend $9 trillion.
Remember, I used to say, Don't go into Iraq, but if you do go in, keep the oil.
Well, they went in, but they didn't keep the oil, they didn't keep anything.
You know, Iraq is a massive oil country.
They have $400 billion right now.
But I said, don't go in.
But I said it as a civilian.
So people cared because I get, for whatever reason, I get a disproportionate amount of publicity.
And someday he's going to explain to me why.
Will you explain that to me?
So even as a civilian, sort of, before I ran, but I'd be very much involved with things and statements that call and ask.
But I said, don't go in.
They went in.
It was such a bad decision.
So Bolton, see again, you get back, Bolton, a real dope.
But I thought he'd be great because he was so stupid.
He was like a boiler.
Every time, if somebody shot down a little tiny crappy drone that cost about $15, he'd want to go to war with Russia.
I said, no, I think he was great for me, though, for a period of time because he was a nut job.
And everybody, I could see his face get red, red, red with that stupid white mustache.
And he'd be ready to explode.
And this was good for me.
I went to Kim Jong-un in North Korea.
I took this moron with me.
And he never said anything.
But when Kim Jong-un saw him, he said, oh shit, I think the guy wants to go to war.
So he was great for me to negotiate with.
The same thing with Russia.
You know, when Putin saw him, I'd be very nice.
I'd say, hi, Vladimir, how are you doing?
And then Polton's, you know, two rows back, and I'd see that moron, and it'd say, holy shit, this guy wants to go to war with me.
And I got a lot of what I wanted.
You know, we killed, as you know, the Nord Stream 2.
I killed Nord Stream 2.
That's the other thing that's great.
Their PR sense, their political sense, very interesting.
They love to say that I was a friend of Russia.
I worked for Russia.
I was a Russian spy.
These people are sick.
The biggest job Russia ever had is Nord Stream 2.
This is the biggest pipeline in the world.
It goes from Russia to Germany and all over Europe.
I killed it.
Nobody would kill it but me.
I stopped it.
The thing was half-built, dead.
Then this obviously, look, in all fairness to Biden, he was dumb 35 years ago.
He was a dumb guy.
Sure.
It's true.
But he comes in and he approves it, but he stops the Keystone pipeline, which really we need.
That's our pipeline.
But think of it.
tucker carlson
Wrong country.
donald j trump
Yeah, but think of it.
It's rough.
It's rough stuff.
He stopped.
I said, wait a minute, it's supposed to be the other way.
Let Keystone go, but stop the Russian pipeline.
And I went to the comp like Germany and the different countries, but mostly Germany and say, so let's get this straight.
We're helping you and guarding you from Russia, but you're paying Russia billions of dollars a month for oil.
How's that working?
That's not working, dude.
I mean, the whole concept.
Anyway, I stopped it.
And then I keep reading stories that, oh, I was a puppet for Russia.
donald j trump [ai]
Putin actually said to me, if you're a puppet now, I'd hate to see if you were angry because this was the biggest economic job.
donald j trump
This was the most important thing that they probably had ever done, and I stopped it.
It's all about the people, Tucker.
If you have the right people, it goes beautifully.
It's like in my real estate business.
If I have a good building here, and I have a good superintendent of the building, and that guy's doing a great job, and I've done it over the years with my father, would have a building and another building, and you'd have a great super here and a lousy super there.
The one here, the building, everything was perfect.
Over here, everything was crappy.
So now I say, let's take this super, move them over here.
It worked beautifully for there, but not for there, because now all of a sudden that one does it.
It's all about the people.
You got to put the people in.
And if I have any complaint about myself, and I don't really blame myself, because in all fairness, I became president of the United States, and I never did this stuff before.
You know, it's pretty good.
I never did it before.
I was driving down Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Avenue with Melania, the new first lady who's great.
donald j trump [ai]
People love her.
donald j trump
She's got the number one selling book.
Tucker, she's got the number.
Melania right now is the number one selling.
Go out and buy it.
It's a great book.
It really is.
But think.
So I had never done it before.
And I do it.
We had 18 people, including me.
We had debates, and all of a sudden, we had 17, 16, 15, and they started disappearing.
And a lot of people thought I was doing it just for fun.
I think Tucker did, too.
He thought I was having a good time.
I was having actually a good time.
I was actually having a good time.
But all of a sudden, did you notice?
They started to disappear.
donald j trump [ai]
Then you have 10 people.
donald j trump
And then, you know, you had low energy people.
You had a lot of interesting people.
And then I came up with nicknames for everybody.
And for the most part, they were extremely destructive, right?
We had some beauties.
We had some, like, Pocahontas for the, but the, because I don't use my Republican names anymore because I'm friendly with all those guys.
We retired those days.
But all of a sudden they start.
donald j trump [ai]
And then we get down to 10.
donald j trump
So now eight are gone.
And we're down to 10.
Remember, we needed two stages because there were so many.
I said, we have the children stage, and then we have the grown-up stage.
And it was all based on the numbers, the ratings, the numbers, your popularity, how you're doing.
So there were 10, there were eight.
There were five.
There were four, three, two, one, right?
And all of a sudden, I'm the nominee.
And everyone thought I didn't want to be up, but I did want to be.
Don't let him tell you that.
They said, he didn't, all these geniuses, they said, he didn't really want to win.
He's extremely upset that he went, no, no.
If you're going to play, you know, win.
And some people are surprised.
But you heard that I didn't want to win, and I was miserable that I won.
No, that's a false story.
That's their own misinformation, a term I use a lot, and now they use it all over.
I always say misinformation, disinformation, and now everybody says that, so I don't use it anymore.
But what happens is I end up being the nominee, and then I watch the other side, Bernie Sanders and Crooked Hillary go at it, and it's crooked Hillary.
And all of a sudden, I'm fighting against crooked Hillary Clinton, who's a smart woman, much smarter than Kamala, but doesn't lie as much.
Hillary was a liar, a horrible scoundrel.
But this one lies so much.
And she's a low IQ individual.
She doesn't even know she's lying.
I'm telling you.
This is not what you want for your president.
That has nothing to do with me.
This is not what you want.
She's a very low IQ individual.
She's dumb as a rock, and you can't have that.
You can't have that.
We love our country too much.
You can't have it.
We just went through four years of it.
You can't have anymore.
A country can only take so much.
And then I won.
And so the point is that I never did it before, right?
I'm president of the United States, and I was never even a politician before.
And I picked some great people, Lightheiser and Trade.
We had a lot of great people, but it's all about the people.
You got to have the right people.
tucker carlson
When you ran in 2016, the leaders and heroes of the Republican Party were the Bush and Cheney families.
And is it weird for you to see Liz Cheney, that'd be Dick Cheney's repulsive little daughter, running against you with Kamala Harris?
donald j trump
Well, I think it hurts Kamala a lot, actually.
Look, she's a deranged person.
The reason she doesn't like me is that she wanted to stay in Iraq.
She wanted to stay.
She wants to, you know, tough, tough person.
You know, people get killed all over.
She's real tough, right?
They're not the tough people.
Don't forget, I went against her, and in her state, which is a great, beautiful state, she lost for Congress with the highest number in history.
There has never been a congressperson that lost by almost 40 points.
And the reason is because if they were ever in that situation, they'd quit.
And she lost.
She was beaten by a tremendous person, actually, tremendous that I backed fully.
But the reason she couldn't send me is that she always wanted to go to war with people.
I don't want to go to war.
She wanted to go.
She wanted to stay in Syria.
I took them out.
She wanted to stay in Iraq.
I took them out.
I mean, if it were up to her, we'd be in 50 different countries.
And, you know, number one, it's very dangerous.
Number two, a lot of people get killed.
And number three, I mean, it's very, very expensive.
That's why we owe $36 trillion.
We go, you know, it used to be you go to war to the victor belong the spoils, right?
In other words, if you beat a country, you own that country, you take the oil.
We go to war, we bomb the crap out of it, then we leave.
You know, it's almost like, what are we doing?
What's going on?
We bombed the whole Middle East, and then we left.
What did we get?
We got nothing.
We destroyed.
I mean, we bombed the hell out of everything.
You know, when they went into, when they took out Iraq for a thousand years with different names, you had Iran and Iraq, similar powers.
They were the two big ones.
And for a thousand years, they would fight each other this way, this way, this way, then they'd rest.
This way, then they'd rest.
They were a self-check.
Then one day we go in and bomb the hell out of one.
We destroy one.
And then all of a sudden Iran has the whole Middle East to itself.
And by the way, right now Iran has Iraq.
Iraq is like a subsidiary of Iran, all right?
We did so many bad moves, and her father was it.
You know, her father was, I was very critical of her father for years.
I'd never met him, but I'd say anybody that went into the Middle East I thought was stupid.
And he, they say, convinced Bush.
Bush, oh, he was just, he was another beauty.
But he supposedly convinced Bush to go in.
Him, Bolton, and some other lightweights, convinced them to go in.
Let's go into the Middle East and destroy the whole place and kill millions of people.
So they went in.
But I was never a fan of Cheney.
I was always very critical.
And when I announced that, I was very critical, actually, not personally, but I said, he made a horrible mistake.
What are these people doing?
They're spending, we spent $9 trillion trillion with a T, not even with a B. Normally I say not million, billion, but now I say not billion, trillion.
We spent nine trillion dollars bombing the hell out of the Middle East.
And what the hell did we get other than lots of dead people, including our people?
We got nothing.
So I was very critical of him.
And then I announced I was running, and I was shocked that he was one of the first people.
He endorsed me immediately.
I said, that's amazing.
But he had something that was very interesting.
He had Scooter Libby.
I mean, these are little stories that are interesting.
Scooter Liberty was a man that could have done great destruction to Bush.
And they left him behind.
He was given to the prosecutors.
They prosecuted him rather violently.
And he was almost like a sacrificial lamb.
And as somebody that knows a lot about what's happening, I said, you know, if I were ever president, I'd do something with that guy.
That guy got treated very badly, Scooter Libby.
And when I became president, I actually called Dick Cheney.
I said, let me ask you about Scooter Libby.
He was best friends.
He was begging Bush to give Scooter Libby a pardon.
But Bush didn't have the courage to do it.
You know, it takes courage to give a pardon.
It does take a certain courage because the press comes after you, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
And he didn't have the courage to give me, he should have given him a pardon, but he didn't have the guts to do it.
And what happened is Dick Cheney, for years, for a long time, hated Bush.
And don't let anyone tell you, he hated.
He said, you don't leave your wounded behind.
And I understand that.
And Scooter Libby really saved Bush because he could have said things that would have been very dangerous for Bush in terms of getting impeached, in terms of going to jail, in terms of bad things happening.
But Scooter Libby didn't do that.
And in all fairness to Cheney, I give him credit for this.
He was very loyal to him, but he couldn't get Bush to do what he should have done.
I came into government and I did what they should have done.
They didn't have the guts to do it.
I did it.
And Scooter Libby was pardoned.
I gave him a pardon.
And I never met Scooter Libby, by the way.
I never talked to him before that.
And I got a call from Scooter Libby after I did that.
And he broke down in tears, thanking me so, so much.
And then Cheney called me, and he said, that was so incredible, what you did for Scooter Libby, because he was really on Scooter Libby.
Scooter Libby took a lot of heat and took all of it and didn't say anything bad about Bush or Cheney or anything else.
Have done it, I know, because you have, you know, you have guys that do that, and you have guys that lie, which is worse, right?
But you have guys that do that.
But he was very loyal to them, and he suffered greatly.
I released him.
Cheney called me.
He said, It's one of the nicest things I've ever seen done in politics.
I said, Look, I've heard for years he was treated unfairly.
I've heard for years that Bush should have given him a pardon.
All I did is do something that somebody else should have done.
And Cheney was so, he said, I really want to thank you.
He said, Now I'm so glad that I actually endorsed you.
It's amazing, but that you would do this.
And I didn't speak to him about it.
But then, you know, go a couple of years forward or go now.
And I don't blame him for sticking with his daughter.
But his daughter is a very dumb individual, very dumb.
She's a radical war hawk.
Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, okay?
Let's see how she feels about it.
You know, when the guns are trained on her face.
You know, they're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, Oh, gee, Will, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.
But she's a stupid person.
And I used to have, I'd have meetings with a lot of people, and she always wanted to go to war with people.
So whether it's her, whether it's, I was surprised a little bit with Dick Cheney.
I didn't know him at all.
I only had essentially the one or two phone calls, and it was only a call saying, thank you very much for doing that for Scooter Libby.
That was nice.
And Scooter Libby, by the way, was beyond, he couldn't believe that it happened.
Nobody would do it.
They should have done that for him years before.
But I was a little surprised because I actually thought that Dick Cheney would go with me over his daughter, and he didn't.
And you know what?
I understand it.
It's your daughter, and you go.
But she's a bad person.
One other thing, they had the J6 committee, and I say this for the fake news back there.
They learned a lot of phony things like that.
I took on this, I took on when I was in the car.
Take me to the Capitol, I said, according to this young lady.
And then they said, sir, we won't do that.
Well, number one, have I said that they do it?
But I had two people, Secret Service guys, both extremely rough guys.
One was like a karate champion, one was a weightlifter.
She said, I grabbed a one by the neck, and when I was rebuffed, I went over to the other one, and I grabbed him in a chokehold or something.
And actually, no, no, but how ridiculous, okay?
Just not my thing.
You would not, hey, we can be tough, but it's not my thing.
I wouldn't do it.
I said, actually, can we go down to the Capitol?
They said, sir, it's better if we don't.
This was before anyone knew there was a problem because there's a lot of people and it's going to be tough.
Probably not.
And you know, we had more people than I've ever seen up at the ellipse up on top.
And a small group went down to the Capitol.
But I said, can you take, they said, sir, it's really a little bit tough.
I said, that's okay.
Whatever you think is.
She had me grabbing the one around the neck and being rebuffed.
And then I grabbed the other one.
And these are, I know them both very well.
Bobby.
I know Bobby wins, Bobby.
And they're good.
And they're good guys too, but they're tough guys.
I think they probably could have rebuffed me.
I'm a little bit older.
But friends of mine loved the story.
They said, leave the story.
You sound like the toughest dude around.
It's a great story.
But it was totally made up.
It was all made up.
But here's the end result.
The J6 committee, I call it, they call it the J6 Select Committee, like select.
They're not select, they're scum.
So what happens?
Take a look at them.
They're all political hacks.
But here's the thing that bothers me.
They found out all this stuff was untrue.
They found out her story was untrue.
The two guys in the car testified.
It's ridiculous, they said.
It is ridiculous.
Can you imagine?
They also, I think, said it was the beast and it wasn't.
It was one of the other ones, but you can't even get your hands through.
But to think that I would be taking on two nice young guys simultaneously.
All right, same.
I'm ripping one and ripping the other.
Are they crazy?
And then I went, oh, and then I went back to the White House, which I love.
And I started throwing hamburgers all over the place.
Okay.
Finish the story.
It says, what happened is terrible.
They went a year and a half.
And Kevin McCarthy, who's a very nice man, he made a mistake.
Because we wanted Jim Banks and Jim Jordan on the committee.
So there'd be like eight to seven or something.
And called me on this.
He said they didn't want Jim Jordan.
He's a fighter.
They didn't want Jim Banks.
He's a fighter.
And so Kevin said, we don't want anybody on the committee.
We think this committee is a sham.
And I understood that was good for a day.
But for the two and a half, we had nobody to fight first.
In other words, we had a committee.
You know who was representing us on the committee?
Crying Adam Kinzinger and Liz the moron Cheney.
That was who was on the committee.
So these were the two Republicans.
Kinzinger, who was a total whack job, and Cheney, who was worse than him.
This was our, so they talk about it was a bipartisan, they call it a bipartisan commission.
And I think I'd never like the idea of not, because even if you didn't have Jim Jordan, who's very good and Jim Banks, we have a lot of great people that would have been good, and they would have, you know, they would have mixed it up.
End result, like they finished their report.
They burned and destroyed and deleted everything.
Everything.
And nobody, and you know why?
Because they found out that Nancy Pelosi, it was her fault, she didn't put the security.
I offered 10,000 National Guard or military.
They found out it was Nancy Pelosi.
They found out that the story's about me attacking two very tough guys that are slightly younger than me, just a few years.
That wasn't true.
They found out that much of it wasn't true, and they were very embarrassed.
So the unselect committee, I call it the Unselect Committee, which I always thought was a great name because it was a select, I call it the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs.
What happened is, think of it, end of the story.
They deleted and destroyed all evidence, all documents.
There's nothing.
And the reason they did it is because they were guilty as hell.
It's the greatest cover-up.
And the fake news back there will not cover it.
They've never even, I think, done a story.
In other words, when you go into court, we want that information.
There is no information.
It's been destroyed.
Everything's been destroyed.
We have a very, we have a very crooked government.
Remember that.
And we're going to straighten it out and we're going to make it an honest government.
tucker carlson
So I have to ask you about the pardons.
I keep hearing you're considering pardoning Hunter Biden.
Is that true?
And if so, why?
donald j trump
No, I mean, I've never...
Look, I don't like the idea of what's happening.
I don't like it at all.
They've weaponized government, but they've weaponized it against me like nobody's ever been weaponized.
The big case was the documents case.
We won the case in Florida.
We're winning other cases too.
But I've had to devote money and time to this.
So instead of running against these stupid people, I had to devote a lot of money and a lot of time, which is what they want.
I had Fonnie, F-A-N-I.
To me, it's Fanny, but she said Fonnie.
I think she changed it once she became the DA.
She wanted to put a little French accent on, Fonnie.
And her lover boy, Wade, who was hired for like a million dollars because of his expertise in whatever the hell law, RICO law, RICO.
But he never did a RICO case.
And then they would take sailing trips like six times during the year, six times.
Who the hell goes away?
Or to sail for six times, nobody.
And he got paid a lot of money.
He took that money.
They took trips.
You know, there's a whole thing that's a whole, but that's just one.
They totally control that.
They control the Manhattan DA's office.
They had their man in the Manhattan DA's office.
He was there.
They put a man into the Letitia James office.
They had a guy running the whole thing.
It's all run out of Washington.
They went after in the Attorney General's office, they had people.
But think of it.
They went after their political opponent.
That's never happened to any great extent.
Maybe a little bit someplace.
I don't know.
Nobody knows of it.
But it's never happened to any great extent in this country.
It happens in banana republics a lot, and it happens in third world countries, but it's never happened.
They went after their political opponent.
So it's hard to believe that I'm winning, it seems by a lot.
If they don't cheat too much, if they don't cheat too much, you know, we found a lot of things over the last three days.
You've seen that.
We found a lot of votes.
And in a certain county in York, in York County, Lancaster County, you know, we found a lot of bad votes.
There were 2,600 votes that happened to be written by the same pen, same hand, same signature, same everything.
Maybe there's an explanation for that.
2,600 votes.
But we found a lot of stuff, but we're seeing to work it out.
But think of it.
It's hard to believe that I'm winning the election by a lot.
Now, we've got to keep the cheating down.
We've got to keep their cheating.
I love you too, darling.
Thank you.
We got to keep their cheating down.
But think of this.
With all I've been through with these animals, these animals coming and what they've done to this country, how they've hurt this country between the borders and between the weaponization.
And think of it.
I'm leading by a lot.
I'm leading in every single swing state with all of the stuff they've done where I've spent millions of dollars.
I've spent millions of dollars on legal fees.
Half of my time is taken up by this.
They can campaign.
Half of my time is taken up.
And they're the dishonest ones.
They flip it.
They're the dishonest ones.
But it's hard to believe.
I said to somebody last night, can you believe the numbers came out last night?
I'm really leading by quite a bit.
Now, a lot of things can happen.
Who knows?
It flips, maybe, I don't know, but I'm leading by a lot.
I said, can you believe I'm leading by a lot?
And what they've done to me, that I'm leading it all, that I'm even living, is almost hard to believe.
These are bad people.
tucker carlson
So you've expanded and changed the Republican Party.
And one of the amazing things that I have learned is the Republican voters really care about issues I didn't realize they cared about, like clean air, clean soil, clean food.
You've won somehow the full-throated endorsement of Bobby Kennedy, lifelong Democrat, who's now like a full-time surrogate for you.
donald j trump
He's a very, very good man, too, by the way.
tucker carlson
So what's that going to look like after you get elected?
donald j trump
Well, you know, I feel interesting about this kind of stuff.
I like to, number one, get elected.
I hate to talk to stuff.
A lot of people, they set up, I know that even when I ran, Hillary had an office set up where they were interviewing all the people.
I don't want to do that.
I want to get elected first and then we'll cram a little bit.
But, you know, I don't like doing it.
No, I remember she set up this big office.
They're interviewing people for jobs.
And actually, you're supposed to do it, but I want to win.
I want to win in five days from now.
It's almost four days from now, though.
In five days from now, when we have a victory, we're going to have the best people.
Here's the one difference, one big difference between now and 2016.
I know Washington and the people through testing, real testing, better than probably any human being that's ever hired people.
So I went from not knowing anybody and having to rely on, in all fairness, Mike Pence and many other people.
You know, I had Mike Pence and I had others, and they would recommend people.
Sloppy Chris Christie recommended some people.
And I wouldn't have used him had I known.
But you rely on people.
And by the way, you know, I hate, in a way, I hate talking about this because we had mostly great people.
Think of it.
We had the greatest economy in the history of our country.
We rebuilt the entire U.S. military.
We defeated ISIS and we had no wars.
We cut more regulations than anybody in the history of the country times five.
And, you know, but we had the best economy in the history of our country.
I took in billions and billions of dollars in taxes and tariffs from China.
I mean, we had an unbelievably successful administration.
We were energy independent.
We didn't need anybody's energy.
We had so much oil, we didn't know what to do with it.
And now take a look.
Four years ago, we were energy independent.
Think of it.
And today we're taking tar from Venezuela.
You know, they don't really have oil.
They have tar.
You have to heat the hell out of it.
Costs you more to heat it than it does to sell it.
But we are going to Venezuela.
Think of it.
Venezuela was like the enemy.
We are now giving.
You know, I got a kick a month ago.
You saw it.
They foreclosed on his plane, but they give him billions of dollars.
I said, that's okay.
He's going to buy a much better plane with the money we give him, right?
But we go to Venezuela for oil.
We were energy independent.
We have more liquid gold, that's oil and gas, under our feet than Saudi Arabia, than Russia.
And we were going to be not only energy independent within six months, we were going to be energy dominant.
We started off at number four.
And when I left, four years later, we were number one.
We were much better and bigger than Russia or Saudi Arabia.
Think of that.
But we were going to be triple the size of both.
And we were going to supply it to Europe.
We were going to supply it to Asia.
All over the world, we were going to supply.
We would have made a fortune.
But then we had a little mishap with the election where I got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country.
You do know that.
More than any sitting president.
The only one that supposedly got more votes, and I wouldn't believe it, was Sleepy Joe Biden, who campaigned brilliantly from his basement.
People had no interest in this guy, but he got more votes than anybody in the history of the United States of America.
So anyway, so bad things happened.
But we had something going that nobody had.
I mean, we had an unbelievably successful administration, but I also put in people, some people that, in retrospect, I wouldn't have used.
But I had to rely on other people for recommendations.
Now, I know everybody.
I know the dumb ones, the smart ones, the weak ones, the strong ones.
unidentified
I know.
donald j trump
I think I know.
I know everybody.
And, you know, I've got people that I think will be great.
With that being said, you pick people and sometimes they disappoint you.
Everybody knows that.
And then you pick people and sometimes they turn out to be better than you thought.
But for the most part, I tell you what, I think we have some incredible, we have some incredible people in Washington.
We really do.
We have some great people.
And I now know, I believe, for the most part, I know who those people are.
tucker carlson
Do you think Bobby Kennedy and Elon Musk will be influential figures without being specific about what those roles will be in your administration?
donald j trump
Yeah, I do.
I think so.
Look, Bobby, let's talk, two of them.
Elon So, you know where he is right now?
He's in Pennsylvania campaigning for me.
Elon.
unidentified
That rocket ship, right?
donald j trump
No, it's so great.
He docked that big monster, 22 stories.
I thought the sucker was going to be, I was, you know, it's a very crazy story.
I mean, I saw it coming in on television.
I was talking to a very, I told the story tonight, but I thought it was a very, you know, I'm talking to this very important guy, not as important as Tucker, but important.
A big shot.
Somebody everybody would know.
Talking to him, bored, like, I'm bored stiff.
He's a boring guy.
tucker carlson
Oh, who is he?
donald j trump
So anyway, no, I'm talking to this very big shot, important guy, and I have the television muted.
This thing's going on.
You know, the whole thing was really boring.
Then I see this monster thing coming down.
I see fire all over, fire, left, right.
And I'm looking, I'm saying, hey, could you hold it a minute?
Yeah, sure.
I said, yeah, I just want to see something.
I put the phone down.
I sort of forgot, and I didn't pick him up for like 50 minutes.
And 5-0.
And you know what?
Because of the fact that I was president, and I very well might be president again, he held on the whole time.
Can you believe it?
But it's true.
I pick the phone up.
I say, oh, shit, the phone.
unidentified
Hello?
Hello?
He goes, hello, the poor guy.
donald j trump
But I had to see this.
And I turn it on.
It left.
I saw it leave and it was beautiful white paint.
Now it's coming down and it's just dark brown.
You know, it's coming down at 10,000 miles an hour or something.
I think it's 10,000.
It's coming down at levels of speed that nobody ever even conceived of.
And it's all burned and where it's rough.
But it's coming and now it's turned around.
It turns around.
And you have the gantry, the big, beautiful gantry.
And it's coming.
And it's going to, I say, oh, it's going to crash because you see at that bottom this section right here, that sucker's, oh, I'm going, come on, baby.
Come on.
And I didn't know, actually, if I'm watching a science fiction movie or am I watching the news, I didn't know what the hell I'm watching.
But I see this thing coming down.
And all of a sudden, it's going into the steel, the big steel gantry up here.
It goes to things like 20 stories tall, too.
It's going to crash.
I said, oh, shit, it's going to crash.
Coming down.
And the lower section, right?
It's coming right.
It's ready.
And then all of a sudden, vo-fire flames come pouring out of the lower section.
It's jets.
And they're pushing it over right here.
And then it comes down.
And I'm saying, I mean, is that the coolest thing you've ever seen, right?
Is that the coolest thing?
If you don't think I want a guy like that working for us, so, you know, we've got to cherish our brilliant people.
They don't treat him right.
We've got to cherish our brilliant people because we don't have too many of them.
Nobody does.
Nobody does.
So, Elon, oh, talk Elon first.
Elon wants to, by the way, I'm having a great time up here.
Are you having a good time?
unidentified
This guy.
Is he the greatest interviewer?
donald j trump
He asked me one little question.
I talk for 20 minutes and they're going to say he's better than Larry King at his prime, right?
tucker carlson
That's an easy job.
donald j trump
Is that the greatest?
You're an easy interviewer.
He is great at what he does.
Few like him, I will tell you that.
So with Elon, here's a theory, and he's right, that there's unbelievable waste and fraud.
Like I saved much more than a billion dollars when I came into the White House in one day when I said I'm not going to pay that much to Boeing for Air Force One.
And they ended up taking like much more than a billion dollars off the price.
It took about a couple of weeks, you know, saying, I'm not buying it.
No, I don't want it.
But there's a plane that you're saving much more than a billion dollars.
And you've got thousands of things like that.
Not as much, and in some cases, much more.
They're building an aircraft carrier, the Gerald Ford.
The thing came in like a $20 billion for a boat, $20 billion.
And it doesn't work because they decided to use electric catapults that throws the planes off instead of steam.
They decided to go electric.
Why are they people that are going all electric?
By the way, I'd end the electric mandate on cars day one.
You should have electric, but you've got to have gasoline.
You've got to have everything.
That'll come off on day one.
Many things will be done on day one.
Your head will spin when you see what's going to happen, the stupidity.
But what I like about Elon, you know, Elon's a great cost cutter.
And Elon thinks he can cut the costs of our government by $2 trillion.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
That's the entire deficit, you know, because it's now at a level.
By the way, we have the biggest deficit we've ever had under this stupid group of people.
But he thinks he can cut $2 trillion without affecting anybody, just through, and I think he can do that.
I do.
I believe that.
And that's really what he wants to do.
He doesn't want to work.
He doesn't want to become a secretary of something.
I mean, I'd love to have him, to be honest with you.
But he doesn't want to.
He's doing a couple of other things, you know, like rocket ships.
You know, he sends, Tucker, he sends 92% of the rockets that go up are his rockets.
Think of that.
Russia, China, and us, 92% are him.
And he's the only one.
I asked him, I said, are you the only one that can do that?
He's the only one that can land it like that.
And he said it'll be years before they can do it.
He's a great guy.
He wants to cut costs.
That's what he wants to do.
He wants to save the country.
He said that if Trump doesn't get elected, the country is finished because, you know, he understands me.
And I got to know him a little bit in the White House, but much more so over the last few months.
He endorsed me.
He gave me an endorsement that was so beautiful.
He said, if Trump doesn't win, I think this country is finished.
He's worried about the country.
He's worried about it.
He thinks he can save $2 trillion, in which case we don't have a deficit.
I mean, the whole thing would be $2 trillion a year, by the way.
A year.
And I will definitely, now, Bobby is great.
The only thing I'm a little bit worried about with Bobby, so I want him to work on health.
And I think there's nobody like, I mean, I think he's right with so much of the things he's talking about.
Because, you know, we're not a healthy country.
If you look at some of the countries in Europe, they're much more healthy than us.
We're a rich country.
I mean, you know, we've got to get rid of a little debt, but that's okay.
I've typically been very good at that.
I've been very proficient at that.
I've had it both ways.
I've had a lot of debt and I've had very little debt.
And as you get older, having very little debt is much better, believe me.
But you know what?
He is, he really wants to, with the pesticides and the, you know, all the different things.
I said he can do it.
He can do anything he wants.
He wants to look at the vaccines.
He wants everything.
I think it's great.
I think it's great.
The only thing I say to Bobby is leave the liquid gold under our feet alone.
We want to have a little gasoline.
Because you know what I'm going to do?
We're going to unleash much of that.
And we're going to, you know, Germany tried to go all green and they almost destroyed their country.
And that was the end of Angola, by the way.
That was it for Angela.
They went all green.
They had windmills all over the place.
And the wind stopped blowing for a couple of weeks.
And that was almost the end of Germany, actually.
But the only thing, and I say it jokingly, but I say, Bobby, I love you looking at health.
I want you to take care of the women of this country, the men of this country, and the children of this country.
You don't have to worry about anybody else.
But the one thing you got to do for me, Bobby, is leave that, leave what's under my feet, the oil and gas.
You leave that to me, Bobby, because that's going to, we're going to make so much damn money, and it's clean.
It's going to make it clean.
We're going to make, you know, we have, look, China doesn't have that.
That's why China's going electric.
If we go electric, we're playing right into their hands.
We have oil and gas.
They don't.
They have things for making the batteries and other things.
They're going to make the electric cars.
We're not going to be making the electric cars.
The problem with the electric cars, and I think they're great in a smaller application, they don't go far.
They cost too much and they're going to be made in China.
Three minor problems, okay?
But if you listen to this government, they want to make army tanks electric because they want to invade countries with their army tanks in a very friendly way from the pollution standpoint.
The whole thing.
You know what you have to do?
The batteries are so big, they have a design where the army tank is going in and they have like a wagon, like a child's wagon with these massive batteries.
tucker carlson
We're going to have these green wars?
donald j trump
These people are crazy.
No, they want trucks to be all electric.
The problem is they don't go far.
That's a problem.
You know what else is a problem?
So the trucking industry comes to see me because they think I'm going to win.
And they come in to see me.
And these guys come in and they're great guys.
They've been in like Roger Penske.
How good is Roger Penski?
The guy's won, but he's in the trucking business too.
He's won like 19 Indianapolis 500s.
Think of how good this guy is.
Japan spends billions on coming up with a race car.
Germany spends billion.
I don't know if they've ever won, maybe one or two.
Roger Penske is an incredible guy.
He won 19 Indianapolis 500s.
It might even be 20.
That was two years ago.
I gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom because I said he deserves it.
After the 19th, I said he deserves it.
But the truckers came in to see me.
They say, sir, they want us to go all electric and it'll destroy the industry.
Why?
Because a truck is two and a half times heavier if it's run by a battery.
I said, that's not good.
I don't like that.
What does that do to the bridge?
He said, how did you pick it up so fast, sir?
Every bridge in the United States would have to be rebuilt.
Every roadway would have, because they're not set for that kind of weight.
Little problem.
They don't go far, right?
They only go.
I said, how many times would you, New York to LA, how many times would you have to stop?
Six times, sir, six.
How many times would you have to stop if you loaded up with diesel fuel?
We wouldn't have to stop at all, and we can come back a little bit of a ways, too.
I said, that's a problem.
They have a lot of problems, right?
Another problem is the battery is much bigger than the tanks of diesel.
So it would take a lot of their payload out of you.
I said, have you explained this to the government?
Yes.
What do they say?
We don't care.
We want all electric.
I mean, these are problems that fairly short term are absolutely insurmountable.
But the government is pushing them anyway.
So we have to bring common sense back to our country.
We have to have borders.
We have to have fair elections.
You know, we shouldn't be worried about how they're stealing in Pennsylvania and how we should have fair elections.
We should have one-day elections, all paper ballots, voter ID, and we're finished.
tucker carlson
So I know you've been up.
Your schedule is, and this is not a talking point, your schedule is beyond belief.
And I know you've been working since 6 a.m. this morning.
I don't even know what time it is or what time zone we're in.
So this is my last question to you.
But after almost 10 years of doing this, going around the country, speaking to huge audiences, almost a decade, you're four days from, that's it.
How do you, are you sad about that?
How do you feel?
donald j trump
So, you know, we have these rallies, and it's nice to have a president that doesn't need a teleprompter, isn't it really nice?
Because you can't have successful rallies if you read it, oh, they were, aha, wah, wah.
Everybody would pick up and we have great rally.
We have the greatest rallies.
Even look at this crowd, although I would assume they're here for Tucker, mostly Tucker.
Look at this crowd of people you have here.
unidentified
This is not a normal people, too.
donald j trump
No, this isn't a normal situation.
I mean, what the hell time is it?
And you go back.
This is a monster building.
I don't know how many people you have here, but you also have a lot of people outside.
When we were driving up, there are thousands of people outside.
So I was making a couple of days ago, and I said something that I've never said.
I said, you know, I've been doing this for nine years, and you've been with me.
This is the greatest political movement in history, by far.
unidentified
By far.
donald j trump
It's MAGA.
It's called Make America Great Again.
When our when our I'm going to be nice to him, when our president.
No, when our slightly off.
I mean, look at the way he performed in the debate.
They should have never taken it away from him.
Look at the way he performed.
He was brilliant.
Okay.
So, but they knew that a long time ago, okay?
And she knew that too.
And our country's at danger.
We're dealing with Kim Jong-un.
We're dealing with very, you know, we're dealing, by the way, with unbelievably smart, talented, vicious people that are at the top of their game.
And we're dealing with people that, number one, aren't smart.
They never were.
They never were.
She wasn't.
She was a bad student.
She couldn't pass her damn law exam.
Okay?
She wasn't smart.
And he was definitely not smart.
And we're dealing with other people that are at the absolute top of the poll.
And we can't do that.
That's a great danger.
And people should have let us know.
But I was talking, and I said, We've been doing this together for nine years.
You know, we love these people.
The people are so great.
It was like a sea of red, the red hat.
And I said, We've been doing this together for nine years because, you know, a year before I started in terms of before we won, almost a year anyway.
And I said, you know what?
It's sad in a way because there's never been rallies like this.
When that sleaze bag said during the debate, she said, oh, your rallies aren't well attended and people leave.
They don't leave and they're really well intended.
We can't get places big enough.
And then I said, I said, I said, no, no, you know, the rallies are the biggest in history.
We never haven't, just like this, this is a part of a rally.
We never had an empty seat and nobody leaves early.
And you know what?
If I saw people leaving, you know what I do?
Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to make America great again.
Goodbye, everybody.
And everybody would be happy.
Nobody would leave.
But we don't have to do that.
Nobody leaves.
It's a love fest.
It's never happened before.
This has never happened before.
He's a big fan of Ronald Reagan, so am I.
But if Ronald Reagan, let's say, went to New Mexico like I did today, we probably had 25,000 people standing in an airport early in the morning today.
But we have massive crowds.
Look, we had 107,000 people in New Jersey.
We had 101,000 people in Butler just a few weeks ago, right?
We had 114,000 people in California a month ago, right?
114,000.
The owner said, the person that has the land, a nice guy, he said, you get bigger crowds than these guys that play guitars.
And I don't have a guitar.
So this has been a love fest.
But I said, and I meant it too, I said, you know, we've done this for nine years, and it's sad.
I never thought of it, actually.
It'll never happen.
It'll never happen again.
It's never going to happen again.
In four years, somebody's going to be running.
Could be JD.
It could be this one.
By the way, he's doing a good job.
He's doing a good job.
But it could be JD, and he'll have competition no matter what.
But when you have a rally, they're going to have 250 or 300 people.
If Ronald Reagan came back from the dead at the height, at the height of Ronald Reagan, if he went to California to have a rally, he'd have 250, 300 people in a ballroom someplace.
We have 50, 60, 70, 80, 100,000 people.
And in all fairness, we're late.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I've been doing this all day.
I have no idea what time it is.
But I know it's not exactly prime time for doing this stuff.
And you look up into the rafters of this massive building, and you don't have, there's no empty seat, there's no anything.
It's, by the way, it's, and for whatever reason, I can't explain the reason, but it'll never happen again.
And there'll be somebody running, and he'll be the hot one next year, and he'll come here, and he'll go there, and he'll have two, 300 people.
That's what it's going to be.
My consultants was telling me that.
He said, we've consulted for 25 years.
If we'd have 300 people, we were thrilled.
If we'd have 200 people, we were thrilled.
And you have like 30, 40, 50, 60.
In South Carolina, we had 88,000 people.
In Alabama, we had 68,000 people.
It's an amazing phenomenon.
And I'm not giving myself, it's just, I'm giving you the credit.
You're tired of being the stupid country.
We've become a stupid country.
We're run by stupid people.
And you're tired of it.
So I said to myself the other day, Tucker, it's sad.
And I was telling the people, because it'll never happen again.
This is never going to happen again.
I don't care.
I just don't believe it.
It's never happened in any country.
When Biden got up with the red background, the pink background, and he looked like the devil, he looked so stupid, right?
And he said, we will stop MAGA.
MAGA, we're going to.
I said, listen, you stupid bastard.
MAGA means, because I don't think, I think if you asked him, what does it mean, he doesn't know.
MAGA means make America great again.
That's what MACA means.
So for the first time, I never said it to anybody.
I never really thought about it that much.
But all of a sudden, it was down to like maybe 10 or 8 or 9 days, a few days ago, right?
I said, you know, in 10 days, this will never happen again because I'm not running again.
And you're going to lose interest.
We're going to meet, but we're going to meet on a different basis.
We're going to meet on the basis of fixing our country.
And we'll meet, but it'll be different than having rallies and having, you know, things where you have elections and all.
It's never going to be what we've done together.
We've got to win, first of all, but we are leading.
Just keep the cheating down.
The only thing can stop us is the cheating.
It's the only thing that can stop us.
If we win, it's the biggest event in political history.
It's the biggest event in political history.
And there's something, and it's going to be the most important.
I believe that the next election is the most important election in the history of the country.
I really believe that.
The one that's coming up in four days.
But I said to myself, it's sad.
I told the people.
Some people were in the road, they're crying.
They go, we have people that have gone to 200 and 250 rallies.
We have the beautiful ladies of North Carolina.
We have the front row Joes.
I mean, we have people that have gone to hundreds of rallies.
I said, this will never happen again.
I don't believe it will.
I don't think it'll ever happen again.
And we'll get together, but it'll be different.
We're going to get together and we're going to make America great again.
We're going to fix our country.
We're going to have strong borders and we're going to have fair elections.
And hopefully we'll get a fair press eventually.
Because that's a very important element.
You need a fair press.
He and I understand the press because you give them a story, you know exactly everything that happened, and they'll write it the opposite, like the exact opposite.
They'll write it to actually hurt you.
It's hard to believe.
You almost, that's the other thing.
You wonder why do they do that?
It's so bad.
And they've lost such credibility.
You know, when I first came to politics, the news, the press, had a 92% approval rating.
Yesterday it hit 14%.
And I'm actually very proud of that because I've exposed them for being a total fraud.
They're a fraud.
But hopefully they won't be a fraud for long.
Hopefully that'll straighten out because that's a very important, the press, a free press, a real press, is a very important part of greatness of making a country great.
They're like, they're almost like they're glue that keeps it together, but they're also like, in a way, a police force that keeps it honest.
But they're so dishonest that they have no credibility.
Think of it.
60 minutes?
Ask her question.
And you know, I brought a lawsuit on this today.
You saw that.
60 minutes because it's so wrong.
She gives an answer that only a moron would give.
You can give bad answers, but this was an answer that a person who was not a smart person, a person who got the lowest score, perhaps in the history of the bar exams, okay?
You know, she failed the bar exam, okay?
But this is a person, this is a very low IQ individual.
This is the answer of a very low IQ individual.
And by the way, I think everybody that runs for president or vice president should have cognitive tests.
They should have testing because, you know, and I don't mean by age, because you know, some of the greatest leaders in the world were in their 80s in the 80 period because there is an experience thing and other things.
Some of the greatest leaders in history, you look back, and I know many people that are in their 80s that are, I know one person from 80 to 90 made billions of dollars and he was a failure for his whole life.
And you know him, I'll tell you who it is later.
But he was a failure for his whole life.
But I said to myself, it's sad that in a way this whole great thing that we've built is never going to happen again.
But what is going to happen again is we're going to turn our country around, we're going to make it great, and we're going to be so proud of ourselves because we have to save our country.
Our country is going bad.
We're a failing nation.
We are, as I say, we are a nation in decline.
We are a nation in very serious decline.
And look at what these stupid people have done.
They've allowed Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and others to get together in a group.
This is impossible to think.
When I was a young guy, I loved, I always loved the whole thing, the concept of the history and all of the things that can happen.
The one thing, and I had a professor at the Wharton School of Finance, but we had history classes also.
He said, the one thing you never want to happen is you never want Russia and China uniting.
We united them because of the oil.
We united them.
Biden united them.
It's a shame.
The stupidity of what they've done.
I'm going to have to ununite them.
And I think I can do that too.
I have to ununite them.
But early on, I've read, and you've learned, you never want Russia and China, and they're natural enemies because Russia has massive land and China needs it.
Okay, they need that land.
China doesn't have the land for the population.
Russia has, if you ever look at the size of the Russian landmass, it's like four times or five times, doesn't it have like 12 time zones or something?
It's massive.
They're a natural enemy, and we've allowed them to get together.
It's such a dangerous thing.
Another thing that we're doing is we're losing the dollar as the standard because of these people that are so...
If we lose the dollar as the standard, that's like losing a war, and it'll never happen with me.
There's no way that will happen with me.
We've got to put it back together.
We cannot, that is like losing a war.
So we're going to get together, and hopefully, we'll get together a lot, but we're going to get together.
And I think it's going to be very happy times.
We're going to put our country back together, and we're going to make it the greatest country in the world again.
And you're going to be very proud of all these rallies that we had.
And I just want to thank you for being here so late in the evening.
I've been doing this all day, and this guy is fantastic.
tucker carlson
President Donald J. Trump, ladies and gentlemen, thank you.
unidentified
I'll save your face.
You be burning your face.
There's no face to say, no, I'll take your faith.
And I'll tell you what, maybe we have a good time.
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