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May 8, 2024 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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Tara Reade on Being Exiled to Russia After Accusing Joe Biden

Former Senate aide Tara Reade credibly accused Joe Biden of sexual assault. Now the DOJ is after her and she’s moved to Russia seeking political asylum. We spoke to her in Moscow. Watch more here: https://watchtcn.co/49CDF2t Subscribe to the new Tucker Carlson Network channel for more exclusive content: https://www.youtube.com/@TCNetwork/featured?sub_confirmation=1 Follow Tucker on X: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson Text “TUCKER” to 44055 for exclusive updates. #TuckerCarlson #TaraReade #JoeBiden #VladimirPutin #Russia #USA #accuser #DOJ #news #politics #Moscow #asylum #TCN

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tucker carlson
So your lawyers have sued the Biden Department of Justice for misconduct.
Tell us about the suit, why you filed it, what you hope to achieve by it.
tara reade
Yeah, well, my attorney actually had filed a complaint with the Inspector General about the way I was treated by the FBI and DOJ and how they were harassing me.
And they didn't receive a response.
Surprise, surprise.
So after we waited, there was no response.
He filed a tort claim, and it's for $10 million.
And basically what the outcome will be, hopefully, is that they will open my FBI files and then expunge them.
And the criminal case that has been opened against me in Northern California, the one that's sealed, will be revealed because that was opened by DOJ and FBI, where they took all my Twitter communications, now X, it's called, but Gmail, you name it, all my social media was taken under sealed warrants.
The only reason I know about the sealed warrants and it was publicized is because a Twitter lawyer had called and told me that this has happened and they had made a motion in court to tell me.
And so this case had impaneled a grand jury, so it went pretty far.
So it's just like shy of indictment.
But what are they going to indict me for?
Well, they won't tell me.
Now, as an American citizen, that's infuriating, right?
tucker carlson
But I think a lot of, I am confused.
I think a lot of people watching this are confused.
You, of course, are most famous for recounting in public your experience of sexual assault, and I think it was a sexual assault by then Senator Joe Biden in an elevator when you worked for him.
tara reade
Not an elevator quarter.
unidentified
A quarter.
tucker carlson
I beg your pardon.
And unlike a lot of people who make these claims, you have contemporaneous evidence in your mother's call to Larry King Live, which came out years later.
It's an amazing story.
And I think it's a credible story.
But what did you do wrong?
How did you wind up the subject of a sealed potential indictment of a criminal investigation by the U.S. government?
What was your crime?
tara reade
I think not shutting up.
I think because I just wouldn't stop talking.
I kept trying to push for an investigation.
If you recall, Jen Saki, she was asked one question one time.
Peter Juicy, I think, asked the question and said, you know, about me, about Tara Reed.
And she said, oh, that's been litigated.
It was never litigated.
She lied outright.
It's never been litigated.
It's never been investigated.
And I was asking for an investigator.
All they did was pay money to have media hit pieces done on me.
tucker carlson
But of course they did.
And you were attacked.
The whole believe all women thing turned out not to be true, I guess.
unidentified
Right.
tara reade
No, no, it's not true.
There's no me too.
tucker carlson
There's no me too.
But a criminal investigation into you is a completely separate category.
tara reade
Yeah.
tucker carlson
And really an escalation of a kind most Americans can't understand.
Like, why would they possibly be criminally investigating you?
unidentified
Do you think that's the question?
tara reade
Well, there were two.
unidentified
Yeah.
tara reade
I mean, the first one was for perjury when I was an expert witness.
And it took me lawyers and thousands of dollars to clear that.
They had to drop that case.
And then they came at me with the sealed case, which I can't do anything about because I'm not even supposed to know about it.
tucker carlson
And this is the federal government?
tara reade
Federal, the DOJ, FBI.
tucker carlson
And so there is a Soviet, it's hard to believe it's what you're saying is true, but I think it's checkable.
There's a sealed case against you.
They're investigating you for a crime.
They won't tell you what the crime is.
tara reade
Right.
tucker carlson
But it clearly is a felony, or they claim it's a felony.
tara reade
Right.
tucker carlson
Correct.
tara reade
And I posted the sealed warrant, and that's been in the media.
So the sealed warrant is visible.
You can see the case number.
Journalists have tried to look it up.
My attorneys tried to look it up.
No one will tell them what it is.
Then they started coming at me in more subvert ways, which was, you know, basically harassment, death threats.
Particularly, it amped up when Marjorie Taylor Greene and Representative Matt Gates asked me to testify in the whistleblowers panel.
Like I was going to talk about how difficult it is to be a whistleblower because I've been so targeted.
And then when I was about to testify, you know, I'll get to that part, but when I was about to testify, things really amped up as far as threats and undermining me.
And it was hard to get a job.
People thought I was a security threat.
There were, you know, innuendos.
You know, my reputation was destroyed.
And we've talked about this.
So my attorney basically said, okay, that's that.
You know, we're going to, you know, file this complaint.
And this came after, you know, when I was here in Moscow, Russia, I came here to publicize my book and to oversee the translation of it.
And I did an interview with Channel 1.
And Russian TV channel.
And Channel 1 is sanctioned, apparently.
And apparently that was, I was here for vacation.
So I had packed literally for seven days, five days, didn't have much with me.
And then about midway through, I started getting, you know, messages that I was from former intelligence.
They were trying to get me messages, whistleblowers, like, look, you know, you're in danger of being indicted if you go back.
I talked to my lawyers about indicted for what?
For FARA, the Foreign Registration Act, which is the same thing they went after Maria Butana for.
And Paul Manafort.
And Maria Butina, if you read, there's a really good article called The Spy Who Wasn't, who really lays out why she wasn't a spy and she wasn't.
She's now working for the state Duma, but she was definitely targeted.
But that set the president, Paul Manafort, in her case, set the president.
tucker carlson
But wait, just to be clear, you're an American who has accused the sitting president of sexually assaulting you while you worked for him as a young woman.
And you have evidence to prove that that's true.
tara reade
Right.
tucker carlson
Contemporaneous evidence.
tara reade
Right.
tucker carlson
I think it's key.
And all of a sudden, you're the criminal because you wind up in a foreign city and you do a TV interview.
Am I missing something?
tara reade
Well, they, in 2019, if you recall, one of the smears that they made against me was that I was a Russian asset, even though I had no ties to Russia, immediately out the gate.
That was the Biden campaign, told that to the New York Times.
They said that was their first response.
Not a denial, not anything else.
They said, oh, she's a Russian asset.
And that started in 2019 and got spread around.
And then it continued on and had a life of its own because it was spread by former Obama staff, Edward Isaac Dovere, people like that, who have some clout on social media and people listen.
So unfortunately, there was that kind of overhanging it.
So when I came to Moscow.
tucker carlson
So you make this allegation against the president of the United States, then a candidate.
A credible allegation.
Once again, I wouldn't be talking to you if I didn't think it was credible.
I think it is credible.
I think it's true.
And they don't even respond.
They just accuse you of being a traitor to your country.
tara reade
Immediately.
That was the first response, not even a denial at first.
So I thought that was interesting.
tucker carlson
And the media amplify this.
tara reade
Oh, yes.
New York Times amplified it.
Washington Post did.
Everyone did.
Politico, you know, they did their due diligence for the empire, I guess.
I didn't really understand the media at that time.
Now, you have to understand, I'm a regular citizen.
I don't have a PR team.
I don't have lawyers.
Now I have a lawyer, but then I didn't.
I didn't have resources.
tucker carlson
Where were you living?
tara reade
I was living in California.
And I was really naive about the media.
And now I understand.
I think a lot of people in 2019, 2020 were still a little bit.
tucker carlson
Just to be clear, it sounds like you've been a fairly liberal Democrat your whole life.
tara reade
I was.
I really had, you know, really believed.
I worked for Leon Panetta as an intern.
I worked for Joe Biden.
I worked as a Democratic operative on congressional campaigns.
I was trained by Homeland Security.
I was trained by Seattle police to do to help with domestic violence.
I was a train-the-trainer.
I donated my time.
I worked for Democrats.
I believed in it, believed in it wholeheartedly.
And so it's been heartbreaking when I came forward with evidence how I was treated and how I still am treated.
Like to this day, like I just get, I mean, I get called right now a defector, a traitor.
I did back then before I left the U.S.
tucker carlson
I keep stepping on your story.
And I'm sorry, it's just a remarkable story when you lay it out and give the timeline.
It's just amazing what's happened to you.
So just back to where you were before I interrupted you.
So you're here on vacation to get a translation of your book done.
tara reade
Yes.
tucker carlson
And you do an interview with local TV and then you start getting messages from informed people who you trust.
Tari, you're in danger of being indicted.
And what happens then?
tara reade
Well, I would be put into a cage because with the FARA Act, it's a backdoor into the Espionage Act, essentially.
It's a federal registration act.
unidentified
So you have to register for the registration act.
tara reade
It's administrative.
They never used to even use it, but now they're using it as a backdoor into espionage.
So, you know, you might recall the Uhuru group, right?
tucker carlson
Very well.
tara reade
Yes.
tucker carlson
The black nationalists that we defended.
tara reade
Right.
They're being sentenced this month up to 10 years in prison.
And I've read through all their whole legal case.
And, you know, I have a lot of grief.
So I'm interested in those things.
And you know what the charge is?
Sowing discord.
So I want people to really hear this because sowing discord shouldn't be a crime and they shouldn't be able, but they're being discord?
Sewing discord.
That's the term under the FARA Act and the backdoor into the Espionage Act.
And so they're facing up to 10 years in prison or more.
Their passports have been taken away.
The sentencing happens this month.
They have no ties to Russia.
They simply spoke out against the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine.
And for that, they've been punished.
And what I want people to hear is that it's not just January 6th people that are being targeted by the DOJ.
tucker carlson
No.
tara reade
It's to the left.
It's to the right.
tucker carlson
That's right.
tara reade
It's someone like me that just had a claim against my former employer that should have been investigated properly and should have been adjudicated in a proper way.
And I should have been treated with some dignity instead of having my life torn to pieces.
tucker carlson
So again, back to the story.
You're in Moscow, where we are now, and you hear that you could be indicted or punished under the Foreign Agent Registration Act for giving this interview with a local TV station.
And what do you do?
How do you respond?
tara reade
Well, I wanted to look at all the data points.
You know, I'm not an impulsive person.
I like to think, and I didn't have a lot of time.
I mean, we're talking, I had to make this in a 48-hour window, right?
And so this was a lot of pressure, but I did.
I took the time.
I talked to my daughter for hours.
I talked to my lawyer.
I got more data points of other people who had opinions that were educated.
And then I talked to Matt Gates.
And I am forever grateful that he took my call.
And he was, you know, I want to give him some credit here.
tucker carlson
The Congressman from Florida.
tara reade
Because I was supposed to go the first week of June and walk with him on the Senate floor to get my Senate thing open and I wanted to do that and he advised me.
He didn't advise me.
I should rephrase that, he gave me information.
He basically just said, you know, I'm worried about you, I'm worried about your personal safety and you're good where you are.
You know that kind of thing, and he was.
unidentified
He just said he knew how those people operated and so he was concerned about me, those people being employees of the U.S. Government.
tara reade
Right, and he sits on the intelligence committee.
So when a U.S. Congressman tells you something like that, it's remarkable, that's a remarkable data point right, a remarkable data point.
And I trusted him he could, because he could have easily just said, oh sure, it'll be fine.
And I did ask him.
I said please, you know um congressman, can you help me?
Can you get me off these charges, can you?
And he said no, I can't.
I'm sorry, I can't.
I'm, my hands are tied, I I don't even know what they are and sometimes some of this intelligence isn't shared.
But what I can tell you is just that um, I understand how these people operate and yeah, i'm really worried about your personal safety because I had received death threats at that point.
And you think about it.
I'm not that well known.
I would have been in the news maybe a day or two, maybe you or someone else might have talked about me for a couple of times, but it would have been considered a conspiracy theory, like Adam Rich Right and his death.
tucker carlson
Seth Rich, Seth Rich yeah, so I. What I, what I find so compelling and shocking about your story is that I still don't understand what you did wrong.
tara reade
In their eyes, they see me as somehow being a traitorous is the words that they use.
I think um, in the Usa today there was a a, a former CIA agent, who gave a quote saying that I, my thoughts about America made him viscerally angry.
Um, because I was talking about inflation.
I was talking about the fact that there's 600 000 homeless.
I was talking about the fact, you know, I i'm involved with geopolitics, I have a law degree, i'm interested in it so, but you're an American.
tucker carlson
You spent your whole life in the United States.
You worked for the sitting president yeah, who you say sexually assaulted you.
Yeah, you're upset about the state of our economy.
Yeah, how does that make you a traitor?
tara reade
Apparently it does, and apparently my views about the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine and in 2019, I had.
I had said and this is true that if Joe Biden was elected, that he would go to war with Russia.
unidentified
You were right, yeah.
tucker carlson
So just to bottom line the path that you took, for people who are hearing this for the first time you decided you could not come home.
tara reade
After that, I decided um then, and then I had to figure out, well, what does one do?
Because you can't just like decide to stay in a country without proper paperwork and a visa right.
You can't just like oh, i'm just gonna hang out.
tucker carlson
That would make you a stateless person.
tara reade
Yes, yes.
So I I reached out, and i'm forever grateful to Maria Butna because Masha helped me and she helped me with the process of how to, just the how-to of applying for political asylum, which I did, and And it took a few weeks.
Only 10% of those cases get accepted, but they do their due diligence and they felt that there was enough of a problem where they had to give me a test.
tucker carlson
This is after speaking to a U.S. congressman who sits on the House Intel Committee who told you he was worried about your safety.
tara reade
Correct.
tucker carlson
How hard a decision was that for you?
That's a big decision.
tara reade
It was a big decision, but it wasn't just what he said.
And I don't want to put this all on your shoulders.
Yeah.
It was several people's.
And one, I can't really say who it was, but went to great risk to send me a message to say if you get off that plane, they're going to take you into custody.
For what?
And violation of the FAR Act.
Probably they were talking about violation of sanctions.
There was talk that I had red notices, which are, you know, arrest warrants.
Like I could have been picked up in Istanbul.
tucker carlson
By whom and for what?
tara reade
By the U.S. proxy, by, you know, that's how they do it with Interpol.
They arrest on behalf of the U.S., like in the UAE, in Dubai.
So I had a lawyer who actually specialized in people that have that happen to them.
And she got the red notices pulled.
And so now those are gone now that I'm under asylum.
But they'll extradite you from every country.
So the only two countries that will not extradite an American back to America is Iran and Russia.
tucker carlson
This is a really crazy story.
tara reade
Yeah.
tucker carlson
It sounds like you don't have any way to get your story to an American audience.
tara reade
No.
No, it's very difficult.
I mean, I have a large Twitter following and I have a podcast that I do.
tucker carlson
You know, but no one has called what's so interesting to me is we have supposedly free media in the United States as a backstop against a check against government overreach, too much power in the hands of too few.
And so it's supposed to be a self-correcting system.
If something truly crazy and totalitarian happens to an American citizen, our media is supposed to take an interest and alert the rest of the country so they know what's going on.
So they can say, whoa, I may not like Tara Reed and I don't agree with her or whatever, but you can't do that.
You can't arrest someone for no crime or for complaining about the president.
Like, has anyone from the New York Times called you?
Or politico, politico?
tara reade
No, no.
tucker carlson
The Daily Beast to say, just tell us what's happened with you.
tara reade
Those, those, no, of course not.
Those, they only do hippies.
They only, and they're, they're working for the empire.
There's no question.
They're just working for the, you know, as proxies to the U.S. government.
I mean, I think, you know, some of the reporting that Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger have been doing has been really valuable.
unidentified
Yes.
tara reade
Because they've been showing how there's think tanks, actual think tanks that basically put out articles to these, and then they reprint them.
They don't even change them that much.
So these are planted articles.
Like there were all kinds of lies told about me that I lied about my education.
Now, I never lied about my education, that I defected to Russia.
I didn't defect to Russia.
I was threatened with my life and my family.
And I didn't want my family harmed.
I didn't want to be at risk of being put in a cage.
And I can't tell you what that conversation was like with my daughter.
That it was hard.
tucker carlson
Have you seen her?
tara reade
No.
tucker carlson
Why?
tara reade
I can't.
I can't.
Under political asylum, I can't leave the borders of Russia because, you know, I'm under the protection.
And to be frank, I don't know when I can ever go back to the U.S.
I don't know when there's a safe.
tucker carlson
But what have you done?
tara reade
In their eyes, I've committed some sort of crime and I haven't done anything.
And that's the thing.
I've never committed a crime.
I'm not a traitor.
I'm not a spy, not a spy for Russia.
I don't have tons of resources.
I don't have a PR team.
I just told the truth about Joe Biden.
I told the truth about what he did to me, and I told the truth about the corruption.
And I wouldn't be quiet about it.
And I was demanding to be heard.
But let's say I'm not going to get $83 million like Eugene Carroll or a perfume line like Stormy Daniels, right?
Or treated like with dignity in the press like those women were because they accused a Republican.
unidentified
No, I was attacked and no one has defended you.
tara reade
Not really.
Rose McGowan.
She really has.
Megan Kelly gave me a platform a couple of times.
Of course, you have.
Other than that, independent media, even the lefties, even though the Me Too reporters, silence.
You don't see any Me Too reporters coming and telling my story, do you?
Never once.
They protect Biden.
This is all about catch and kill.
And if you recall, I went to Time's Up for help, right?
Time's up.
Roberta Kaplan, who just represented Eugene Carroll.
Roberta Kaplan had to resign from Time's Up because she was smearing me and the Cuomo, you know, survivors, the people that talked about Cuomo.
And because she did that, she had to resign.
Time's up was dismantled.
And she went on to represent, you know, Eugene Carroll.
And Eugene Carroll publicly said that she was going to now support Biden and give him money.
Just, it's unbelievable.
tucker carlson
It's totally evil.
It's completely evil.
It is evil.
Where does it, I just can't get past this question, and I don't want to upset you, but of your daughter.
You have a child in the United States.
tara reade
Yeah.
That's been hard.
unidentified
You know, I missed her graduation.
She got her master's.
They went after her, actually, while I was here in Russia.
tara reade
The first month I was here, a bunch of Democratic troll farms or whatever doxed her, photo, her work address, tried to get her fired.
She was interning as a therapist.
She's a therapist with children.
She works with play therapy, with children who've been traumatized.
And they tried to get her fired and they were saying it out loud and calling the work.
But luckily, you know, my daughter's work is, you know, not interested in those kinds of, you know, smears.
So my daughter's fine.
But like, you know, having her face plastered everywhere because she's associated with me.
My horse was almost kidnapped.
They literally came and took him almost on a trailer.
And luckily the owners of the stable were there.
So I'm getting these calls at three in the morning in Moscow that my horse is being loaded on a trailer by someone I don't know who's going to take him for Joe Biden.
That was what they were saying.
They were taking him for Joe.
Like some, so luckily he's safe.
But I mean, it's been sort of relentless.
It's been, you know, and I know public figures, you know, I don't consider myself a public figure, but other public figures do get harassed like that.
But when you're a regular citizen like I am, it's it's really daunting, especially if we don't have the resources to protect yourself, right?
And which I didn't.
unidentified
Do you expect to be able to see your daughter anytime soon?
tara reade
I don't know.
I don't feel comfortable putting her in, you know, the spotlight again.
She's about to get married.
tucker carlson
Can you go to the wedding?
unidentified
I can't go to the wedding.
And, you know, I'm upset, but, you know, and I don't want to be a victim here.
I just, I'm angry.
tara reade
And I want Joe Biden to be held accountable.
unidentified
He's taken years of my life.
tara reade
He's destroyed it three times over.
And I'm just, I'm going to continue to fight.
tucker carlson
Tariq, thank you very much for talking to us.
unidentified
Thank you.
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