Tucker Carlson - Ep. 79 Dr Keith Ablow is a psychiatrist who spent years on Fox News. He also treated Hunter Biden. Armed agents raided his office, took his patient records as well as Hunter's laptop, and never charged him with a crime. What was this about? He talks about it for the first time.
Dr. Keith Ablow reveals the 2020 DEA raid on his office—where agents seized Hunter Biden’s unopened laptop, his guns (never returned), and patient records—calling it a politically weaponized "witch hunt" with no charges. A psychiatrist who treated Hunter amid personal trauma, Ablow dismisses leaks or profit motives, framing the attack as part of a broader war on dissenters like Trump, whose truth-telling he contrasts with psychiatry’s abandonment of self-restoration for insurance-driven diagnoses. He ties modern mental health crises to societal delusions—from transgender ideology to political gaslighting—and warns against state overreach, like forced gender-affirming treatments for minors. The episode ends with Ablow’s prescription for sanity: free speech, unconditional love, and rejecting systemic lies. [Automatically generated summary]
If you've been following at all the Hunter Biden laptop story, you may remember the following news item, which appeared for a day or two a couple of years ago.
In February of 2020, a man called Dr. Keith Abloh, who's a psychiatrist and was a fixture for years on Fox News, had his home office raided by the DEA. And during that raid, the DEA took Hunter Biden's laptop.
And did not return it to Dr. Keith Abelow.
Well, apparently Dr. Abelow had been treating Hunter Biden in a year or two before, and the laptop was in his office, and they took it.
They also took his guns.
The state of Massachusetts took all of Keith Abelow's guns from his home.
Now, the interesting thing is, and never returned those either, Dr. Keith Abelow has never been convicted of a crime.
So what was this?
Now, we knew Dr. Keith Abbott is from Working Cable News and has taken us until now to call him, ask him to come on and explain what was this.
First of all, you're treating Hunter Biden.
Second, you had his laptop in your house.
Third, the DEA, which is not, we didn't think, authorized to take laptops out of people's homes, took Hunter Biden's laptop and didn't give it back.
I read this in the newspaper one day, and I've been thinking for the last couple of years, like, what was that?
And I don't know the answer.
I know that you can't, common sense would suggest, talk about the details of your treatment of Hunter Biden, because HIPAA laws exist even after COVID. But to the extent you can, can you explain what this was?
Yes, over the years I've treated, as you might know.
Very prominent people, cabinet members and others.
You know, illness is a common language.
Uh, once you're suffering with something badly, it doesn't matter what your politics are.
And Hunter Biden sought care, despite the fact that I was the first one on national television back in 2012 to say that his dad might well be suffering with dementia.
It was during the vice presidential debates when Joe Biden was running for vice president.
I said, I don't know.
I think to my, to my eye, uh, that he has signs of dementia and I was roundly criticized and beat up.
Wait, but just to how you connected with Hunter Biden, of all psychiatrists in the United States, and there are quite a few, do you have any idea how he wound up calling you?
Because, again, I've had people that I've wanted to help and very gratified to be able to help who have come from far and wide and sometimes with very different.
You know, I was also the first one to say on national television that transgenderism was a very bad idea and that folks shouldn't let their kids watch Chaz Bono on Dancing with the Stars.
I said, don't let your kids watch.
And then Megyn Kelly said, I was spreading hate.
Now she's walked back those kinds of ideas.
But I've had transgender people come to me for help.
With depression or terrible anxiety or horrible delusions, once you need help, that's the equalizer.
That brings things to equilibrium.
And without, you know, getting too narcissistic, and I have that, you know, tendency, I think I'm pretty good at it, right?
And I love doing it.
And I love the fact that you don't have to think politically.
You don't have to think about someone's past.
I've worked with serial killers, right?
I worked with the guy who tried to kill me when I first visited him in prison.
Why?
Because in the end, people have the capacity to be good.
It's miraculous, and I love that it's in fact connected to God, that when you use empathy to get to the bottom of someone's real story and heal them, I don't know how to explain that.
I don't know what that is, and it's not located exclusively in the brain, because that's like saying, well, I know about novels because they're in laptops.
No, you don't.
The brain is like the laptop.
Every experience a person has had from birth affects that individual.
And unpacking that for someone, giving them back their story, is incredibly powerful.
So if someone came to me addicted to crack cocaine and said, I had horrible experiences as a child, terribly traumatic experiences, and, you know, some are known.
About Hunter Biden, so I'm not breaking confidence here.
You know, if you're in a car and your mother and sister are killed while you're in the backseat, you get a lifetime of struggle in front of you.
It seems, again, without asking you about any of the details of your treatment of Hunter Biden, it sounds like when you stop treating him, I think this is right, the authorities went after your medical license, they took your guns, and the DEA raided your house.
I don't have to look at his laptop to know his secrets.
And his secrets are safe with me, which is why...
If you have a lawyer, I've said this before, if you have a lawyer who represents you and you allow that lawyer to suggest that your shrink is a scumbag, then I give you a diagnosis additionally besides cocaine dependence, which is scumbag.
Because that I made clear to a few people who suggested you should have turned it over.
Look what you had.
You could have helped America.
No, no, no.
You don't understand.
This is sacred.
This is like a blood oath.
If you think I'm going to be on my deathbed and look my kids in the eyes and say, well, I was the one who made it kind of confidential when you go to a psychiatrist.
Uh-uh.
Like, I'm willing to die for that.
I'm not breaking confidentiality with a patient ever.
That's like...
One of those trip wires where if someone said to you, how do you hope to die?
If you had to pick away, I'd say, well, it would be standing up for a principle and losing my life over it.
If I had to pick, that's a principle that I'd say it's worth it.
Well, you know, I mean, I did suggest that that would be the right thing for them to do.
They could have made a different decision given that he was under investigation federally, but they didn't.
And so that's their business as to why not.
But, you know, it sort of put me in a funny position because I had guys like Garrett Ziegler, who's a, you know, a far right guy, saying, you know, Keith Ablo must be in business selling drugs with Hunter Biden.
And so any doctor, any doctor in America, if you said, did you have to ever wonder whether you can call in prescriptions around the country for pharmacies, would say, I don't know, I've done it.
Is that a bad thing if they fill it?
But if they find out that any single doctor did that, for instance, they can make a beef about it.
As Ben Carson said at the prayer breakfast years ago, if I wanted to get you or you or you, I could do it.
He meant the IRS. But there are lots of other ways.
And the reason I'm here, aside from the fact that you are the patriot you are, and we were friends back at our former employer, is that I don't like being shut up.
Like most people, I've got complicated views of psychiatry, and I don't understand it because I'm not a psychiatrist.
But I'm hearing you talk about what's inside a person.
It's more than just the sum total of chemical reactions in the brain.
You're describing a soul.
And that is not a conversation that you hear very often, even from psychiatrists.
And Sigmund Freud, whose ideas form the basis of psychiatry globally, is in the West anyway, The center of the public conversation, even 40 years ago, has been disappeared from history.
Can you describe what you think is going on there, the change?
Most of them are now doling out their time in 10-minute increments to write prescriptions that match one of 300 or more diagnoses that are in the psychiatry manual, the DSM-5TR, or whatever it's called now, which neatly fit with insurance company reimbursement for those disorders.
So all these forces have aligned to crush the heart of psychiatry, which is really about restoring the individual to him or herself.
Well, so human beings really do have inborn talents.
They have belief systems that evolve, but they're based upon something very deep.
They suffer depression, anxiety, all manner of things when their stories are not known to them.
When they think of people, let's say, in the family or others or events that unfolded as beneficial to them when they were, say, very bad for them.
They need to recast the characters that they thought were the heroes in their lives and say, maybe not.
Maybe when I abandoned myself, my interest, to take a common example, maybe when I allowed myself to not pursue that real passion of mine because I wanted to satisfy people around me, maybe that means that those people didn't love me as much as I thought they did.
Right?
Now, that's an incredible epiphany when that happens.
If a man, for instance, is supposed to be an artist and he goes around the globe doing deals to create wealth for his family because he's not sure what else to do because that was assigned to him, that man needs to embrace his art again and reevaluate everyone around him who suggested he not do that.
Be true to yourself is the key to psychiatry because the truth is now they want to match one or another antipsychotic or antidepressant or anti-anxiety medicine to your symptoms.
That can be very helpful.
But they forgot the other part, like the 75%, which is you can literally hear voices or see visions.
Based on being disconnected from your core, right?
So you hear these things almost as echoes of your core self and they're transmuted and you can't make sense of them.
These people pretend to be sane and to be doing it in your interest.
Well, we're freeing your kids.
So if you go to Boston Children's Hospital today, and by the way, this is when I first resigned.
I resigned from the American Psychiatric Association because they won't take a stand on this at all.
But if you go to Boston Children's Hospital today or many other pediatric medical centers, and you're naive enough to think you're going there for help for your child who has said, I'm not a girl, I'm actually a boy, and I want to have a double mastectomy.
If you don't toe the line and say, let's go, let's start the testosterone shots and make, you know, Katie into Ken.
If you don't do that, you're going to be visited by the Department of Social Services the way I was visited by the DEA. And they're going to say, you're not going to be that child's parent.
We're going to have a guardian ad litem because that child is not your daughter.
It's your son, and you won't accept that.
You must be delusional in order to function, to some extent, in a society that is asking you to remove yourself from sanity.
And needless to say, not one person who's mutilated a child destroyed these lives and repeated lies has had his medical license pulled, but you have.
So, right.
How many of all the physicians in the United States, what you're saying I think is indisputable, and you'll be rewarded for it at some point, I hope, in this life?
But how many physicians practicing now do you think would be willing to say what you just said out loud?
But that people who get crossways with, say, the CIA seem to have like a higher than average likelihood of having kiddie porn found on their computers.
Well, they call him psychologically fragile because it's a convenient way to attack people.
To say, oh, he's not well.
They also say he's psychologically fragile because if you're looking through a filter that is blurry and misdirected, you might see his truths as him not being well.
It's just the truth, right?
When he said, even in the van, bad moment, in that...
I might say, well, wait a second.
It's very weird.
But when you're famous and rich, why is it?
I would at least open up the question.
Why is it that that's an aphrodisiac?
Why do...
Men or women allow more degrees of freedom if you're famous, strong, and rich.
We don't know that.
We should think about that.
But what he was saying was joking about the fact that that's not been explained.
But you can't hear it, so you're going to call it crazy.
Right.
The notion that you should vote with paper ballots and they should actually count them, this would seem to be rational, but it could, you know, satisfy the criteria for the DSM-5TR plus in the future.
Well, why are you saying that?
Why would you possibly think that there'd be any monkey business with an election?
Now, again, You say things like that and what they're trying to do is make everybody scared of saying anything true or anything that they wonder about as to whether it might be true.
Donald Trump is partly the antidote to that because he just speaks the truth almost obsessively.
It's almost an obsession that he doesn't adulterate truth.
Which is why...
When people would say, well, I'm not sure that he likes minorities.
I'd be like, are you kidding me?
If you ever said to Donald Trump, I know this black woman who's like, she might be 0.05% more talented than this white male.
But, you know, I think you should hire the white male because, you know, it's a white male.
First of all, let me just say I love how interested you are in what is true and how willing you are to pause and ask the first and most important question, which is it true?
I mean, I think that, you know, if you're not willing to do that, then you're serving lies.
But what can the average person, you just said that part of the antidote is Trump, but what, for the, you know, the average person is not in control of who's president or of much else, actually.
So how do you stay sane in a society that demands you lie and is pushing you toward mental illness, which is clearly where we live?
I have a friend who talks about posture as the key to well-being.
Be in your body.
Why?
Because they're going to try to take you out of your body at every turn, right?
And some of it's technology.
Technology is primed to remove you from your body and just say, well, you're really just your profile on Facebook or you're really just your avatar.
Well, no, I'm really not.
I really am connected here to my body and I know it because I go for walks or, you know, Look what's happening.
The world's trying to help us.
The AMA tried to ban boxing.
That's thought of as very quaint now, given MMA. Because the world tries to reset.
It's like, you know what?
We better get back in our bodies.
Let's have guys have to tap out before their arms or legs are broken.
And people would say, well, that's grotesque.
It's horrible.
No, no, no.
It's part of the antidote.
We need it right now because otherwise we're going to be evaporated into Technology, lies, delusions.
Tell people you love them if you really do.
That's a wonderful antidote to falsehood.
That's an amazing thing, right?
If anybody who has a kid, you'd give your left and right arm to save one of their hands.
That's the truth.
That's truth.
Think about that.
That'll help you.
You might meditate.
Meditation centers people.
Why?
Because it's about you connecting to God, really.
I mean, it doesn't have to be a far-out thing or an Eastern philosophy or anything else.
It's just about you sitting there and realizing, you know what, I'm breathing, I'm here.
And then there's some other nice tricks, like if you're feeling troubled, I like to tell people this, if you really have your back against the wall, Think of yourself as sitting in a movie cinema watching your own life story.
And I like to tell people, how many people, when Tom Cruise is in trouble, throw away their popcorn and say, let's get out of here.
He's in a jam.
Absolutely nobody.
Everyone sits there and thinks the same thing.
I wonder what's going to happen.
When you're in pain and you've got troubles, All you really have to do to let God do the rest is just say, I'm going to sit here.
Not leaving the theater.
Anybody who's ever thought of, God forbid, taking his or her life, just sit in the theater.
I said, but I also look at my own life a bit askance.
And I think, I don't know what this is.
I don't know what this is for.
And so if it turns out that at some point in your life, my son, someone thinks they have your back against the wall and you look at them and you say, go F yourself.