Tucker Carlson - Ep. 68 Whatever happened to the truckers who dared to protest Justin Trudeau? Some of them are still in jail, years later. Trucker Gord Magill explains how darkness has descended on Canada.
Gord Magill, a Freedom Convoy trucker now exiled in New York, reveals how Justin Trudeau’s government jailed four protesters—the Coutts Four—for 21 months on flimsy Telegram ties, denying them medical care while $2.4B funds Canadian media to silence dissent. With housing costs skyrocketing from foreign investment and immigration overwhelming infrastructure, Magill warns Canada has become a "captive nation," where criticizing Trudeau risks RCMP surveillance or charges like the NDP’s proposed residential school dissent laws. The episode exposes a democracy collapsing under authoritarianism, where even church burnings go unpunished and courts favor Liberal-aligned judges. [Automatically generated summary]
Justin Trudeau is such a metrosexual buffoon, always dressing up on little costumes, that it's almost impossible, or it was almost impossible, to think of him as an authoritarian dictator.
You can't take him seriously enough to be afraid of him.
But then you probably don't live in Canada.
But all of that began to change two winters ago.
This was the height of the COVID lockdowns, and Canada had some most restrictive COVID regulations in the world.
Among them was a vax mandate.
The people who told you it was your body, your choice, didn't believe that at all.
All of a sudden, they told you, you must take the shot or you can't participate in life.
You can't go anywhere.
You can't work.
Well, there is at least one group of Canadians with testosterone levels sufficient to question.
An order like that.
And they turned out to be long-haul truckers.
And they descended on Canadian cities in January of 2022 to make their voices heard, as they say on the news.
To make their voices heard.
But they were not greeted in the way that other groups who want to make their voices heard are greeted as heroes.
No.
They were greeted with derision in the Canadian media, which effectively is an arm of the Trudeau administration, and by our media, which is effectively an arm of the Democratic Party.
Almost nobody took their side.
But what's interesting is how reasonable their demands were.
Listen to us.
Hey, Canada, maybe forcing people to take an untested medicine is not a good idea.
They didn't threaten violence.
They weren't violent.
They were the core of the Canadian middle class, which is almost extinct at this point.
But what was so telling, and should really have been foreshadowing of what came later, was Justin Trudeau's reaction to the Canadian truckers, to the trucker convoy.
He refused to speak to them.
Here he's explaining why.
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Is there a reason that you can give as to why you will not discuss or have any negotiations with this particular group?
I have attended protests and rallies in the past when I agreed with the goals, when I supported the people expressing their concerns and their issues.
Black Lives Matter is an excellent example of that.
But I have also chosen to not go anywhere near protests that have expressed hateful rhetoric.
Violence towards fellow citizens and a disrespect not just of science but of the frontline health workers and quite frankly the 90% of truckers who have been doing the right thing to keep Canadians safe to put food on our tables.
Canadians know where I stand.
This is a moment for responsible leaders to think carefully about where they stand and who they stand with.
And that became very clear shortly after that was shot.
At least four Canadian truckers went to jail.
Now, what did they go to jail for?
What did they do exactly?
Well, to this day, no one can really say.
And they're still in jail.
Watch the Canadian media's description of that specific case.
And as you listen to what we're about to show you, ask yourself, did they...
Tell me anything real, or was every single word a lie spoken at the behest of the ruling party of Canada?
This is State Media Exhibit A. Watch this.
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According to newly unsealed court documents, RCMP believe four men accused of plotting to kill Mounties at the Cooch border blockade were being given orders by an outside leadership group.
The names of the people in that group have been redacted from the report as they are part of an active investigation.
The newly released records involve transcriptions of phone calls between the four charged with conspiracy to commit murder, Anthony Olenek, Chris Lysak, Jerry Morin and Chris Carbert, and the unidentified leadership group.
The documents state the leadership wanted more than just vaccine mandates lifted, but also the elimination of the professional political class.
It also alleges Olenek, Lysak, Morin and Carbert trained for months and stockpiled firearms at Olenek's property near Claresholm while taking orders from an unidentified group.
The documents reveal in February Mounties seized more than 36,000 rounds of ammunition, two pipe bombs, gas masks, camouflage and tactical gear from the property.
Other intercepted calls from the four men's cell phones refer to more potential weapons coming from a second stockpile in Nantan, as well as a growing tension between those protesting in Coutts and the leadership group.
In February, Olenek, Lysak, Morin, Carbert and nine others were arrested after RCMP uncovered a cache of weapons in Coutts.
Olenek is also charged with making and possessing an explosive device and Lysak faces a charge of uttering threats.
So here are four guys, working-class guys, live in rural areas, and they've got a firearm stockpile!
Right.
They probably don't have a lot more between the four of them than your average farmer does in the state of Nebraska or the state of Maine or the state of Oregon or anywhere else far from a big city.
They're hunters, and so they have guns.
Now, the pipe bomb is a very specific question.
What's a pipe bomb?
We don't know, and neither does the media organization reporting it.
But critically, they don't tell you anything about this outside group that's supposedly coordinating them.
The point of that news report was not to inform you, but to scare the crap out of you and make those four people who are now in jail seem like scary threats to Canada.
So what you have in a country like Canada, where you have an authoritarian government that's taken away civil liberties, a dying middle class, and no media, Is you have almost nobody pushing back against the lies.
There is maybe one news organization left in Canada that does, that asks very simple questions of the people who run the country.
Why are you doing this?
Can you answer the question?
That's Rebel News.
Watch one of their reporters try to ask Krista Freeland, who's the finance minister of Canada, spent many years in Washington, D.C., known to many people who lived in D.C. as a kind of low-IQ functionary.
She now has power, and she does not want to answer any questions from the one independent media organization remaining in Canada.
Watch what happens when a reporter tries to get her to answer the question.
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Mr. Freeland, how come the IRDC is not a terrorist group?
Why is your government supporting Islam on the national media?
So it's funny that Canada, second largest country in the world, bigger than the United States, deeper natural resources than the United States, our biggest trading partner.
Canada is a big deal to the U.S. in a lot of ways.
That particular incident with Mr. Menzies, I mean, I want to say it's shocking, but at this point, you know, the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa was crushed in much the same way.
RCMP smashing the windows of trucks, beating up peaceful protesters.
I'm not really surprised that they did this to Mr. Menzies.
But again, you wouldn't be surprised since you've been following it for more than two years now.
So tell us, let's go right to that clip that we played from state media in Canada about the four incredibly dangerous people who are still languishing in prison.
Take the highway north to Calgary and other points.
And they were there exercising their rights to object to government policies.
And due to very powerful forces, they've been caught up in...
Railroaded, really, by the government and sort of used as pawns because after the Freedom Convoy ended, was crushed by Trudeau and the government, there was an inquest into that called the Public Order Emergency Commission.
Which the Justice Rouleau, in his conclusion about the question of whether or not Justin Trudeau was justified in imposing the Emergencies Act, he was, I can't remember the exact word, but he was a little bit reluctant.
He was sort of like reluctantly agreed that Trudeau was within his rights.
and most of that hinges on this case in Cootes, which once you investigate it, isn't much of a case at all.
And so these four regular working class dudes who are at the protest site have now been imprisoned for almost two years.
They were denied bail.
They're kept in what's called remand because they haven't been convicted of anything They haven't faced trial yet, so they don't get the rights afforded convicted prisoners, and so they've been subject to long stints of Oh, man.
In 2019, the Trudeau regime gave them $595 million to bail them out because they're losing money, in part because a lot of people know they're liars and aren't interested in what they have to sell.
And there's been top-ups to that, and I think I was looking it up.
There's somewhere north of $700 million in subsidies from Justin Trudeau.
But I just want to get to something that we played in that clip.
They were accused of taking orders from a secretive outside group, and Canadian media wouldn't tell us because it was, quote, redacted, what this group is.
Has anyone ever explained who these guys were supposedly working for?
Yeah, there was one CBC reporter who accused the Freedom Convoy of taking money from Putin.
Of course, that was ridiculous.
One of the items there they were talking about, it was actually a telegram group that's run by one guy.
Who's just a random dude that espouses his opinion, and the government is claiming this one random guy of the Telegram group to be some criminal mastermind.
Interestingly enough, that guy hasn't been apprehended, arrested, or charged with anything.
And the media have also tried to conflate the Coots guys with a podcaster in Canada named Jeremy McKenzie, and his meme country he created in his mind called Diagon.
And there's a social justice activist group in Canada called the Canadian Anti-Hate Network who are also paid by Trudeau.
And they claim that Diaglon are like an ethno-nationalist threat and they're armed to the hilt and they're going to take over the government.
And investigations showed that Diaglon doesn't exist.
And Jeremy McKenzie is just a guy sitting in his house in Nova Scotia with some fans.
And they tried to turn this into a thing.
There was documents released showing that what the Canadian Anti-Hate Network had said was totally false, and the media hasn't discussed that at all.
So you've got four, at least four, I think many more, but you've got these four political prisoners rotting in prison, no bail, no trial, for two years.
Has the Canadian media said anything about this other than to accuse them of being controlled by people?
These allegations from the RCMP and the Crown, the defense sought a publication ban because it was apparent immediately that the media was trying to railroad these guys.
So the media, what they've done now is they're hiding behind that publication ban, but the publication ban is very specific on information to obtain and these...
Unproven allegations by the RCMP and the Crown.
You can still ask questions about the case, right?
Like, why have these guys been denied bail?
What are the connections, the political connections to the invocation of the Emergency Act and the resulting Public Order Emergency Commission ruling?
There's all kinds of questions you can still ask about this case that are not subject to the bans and there's been nothing.
But yeah, so if people back home want to find out about this, there's only a small number of people discussing it, and most of them aren't in the country.
And then over and above the Coots 4 guys, there's a number of other people who are continuing to be punished.
Chris Barber and Tamara Leach, who are the sort of the faces of the Ottawa convoy.
They were charged with mischief and intimidation and counseling mischief and all these silly, ridiculous charges, and their court cases are still ongoing.
A number of people who were involved in Ottawa, just showing up and protesting and taking part in it, making their voices heard, as you said, were also charged with mischief and various other offenses.
Some of those people, the...
They had their cases dropped or they were acquitted because there was nothing to it.
And now the Crown is appealing those acquittals and they're trying to drag regular people who've already been through their court case and had it acquitted and they're bringing them back and charging them again.
He's vindictive, man.
Like, he can't not be wrong.
He can't not admit that the largest peaceful protest in Canadian history was just that.
It has to be something else.
To satisfy his proclivities towards totalitarianism.
Cotter was picked up, taken to, I can't remember if it was Kabul or Kandahar, and then sent to Guantanamo Bay, but the only person at Guantanamo with a Canadian passport.
Regardless of that case, or what anybody thinks about Omar Cotter, The Canadian media did not shut up about that guy for the entire time.
It was front page news, front and center.
Omar Khadr's being done dirty by being in Guantanamo Bay.
We have to get him out.
Prime Minister at the time, Stephen Harper, was heavily criticized for not doing enough to have Omar Khadr extracted from Guantanamo Bay.
Eventually he was, came back to Canada.
And then Omar Khadr and his lawyers sued the government, and under the Trudeau administration cut a check for $10.5 million.
For being allowed to be in Guantanamo Bay for as long as he was.
But the point is that the media did everything in their power to make sure that Omar Khadr was a household name, and they haven't lifted a finger for the Coots Four.
People are finding it really difficult to afford to live.
It's almost impossible to buy a home in many of the major cities.
My sister went to go and see...
Pierre Poiliever, who's now the leader of the Conservative Party, and he was doing, before he was elected to be leader of the Conservative Party, he was doing, like, you know, the meet and greets and talking with people all across the country.
And my sister told me when she went to go meet him that the number one issue on everybody's lips, past COVID, past anything else, was real estate prices and the housing shortage.
Well, you know, it's been recently revealed that the Chinese Communist Party has been involved in federal politics in Canada since at least Brian Mulroney.
And in the last two elections, like, CSIS has produced evidence that the Chinese Communist Party directly assisted the election of 19 or 20 different members of parliament.
Okay, well, maybe the other thing that the Canadian government could do, if you don't want to reign in China, because they're really in control, you could at least maybe slow down immigration a little bit.
I think Canada has the highest immigration rate per capita of any country in the world.
You're basically importing the entire subcontinent.
You know, if you grow up in Canada, you have Canadian content rules on the CBC and in the rest of the media, and we're always taught to, like, think of ourselves, Yes,
Unfortunately, some people in Canada are passive, and then when you get people who do rise up and say, hey, enough's enough, well, this is what you get now.
The media smears you, lies about you, the government crushes your protest, and there you have it.
But if you have a cross-dressing fascist like Justin Trudeau take over, and one of his first orders of business is to take your guns away, I don't think you need to be a genius to ask, like, why would you want to do that?
Canada doesn't, I mean, there's no evidence that farmers in Saskatchewan are going on murder sprees, okay?
Why would he be so intent on taking their guns away, their means of self-defense?
Did that raise any alarms for anyone in Canada that maybe this guy doesn't have the best intentions?
But the government killing thousands of Canadians a year through assisted suicide, assisted suicide, which they encourage, not for immigrants, only for native-born, that seems a pretty ominous sign.
Like, if the government is killing its own citizens, maybe they don't mean you well.
Yeah, well, given the sort of collapsing health care system, this medical assistance and dying program, and they're...
Their seeming lack of concern about making any of these material conditions better by just throwing more people at the problem would belie that, no, in fact, they do not care about us at all.
But does anybody, I mean, in other words, if I say I love you and then I say what I really think you should do is kill yourself and I'll help you, maybe I'm lying.
Maybe I don't love you.
I mean, I'm just, again, just throwing that out there.
I'm not 100% sure on that one, but it seems like there's less and less things we are allowed to say, if not in the letter of the law, but in what the media will allow in the discourse.
Do you think it's weird that we have this State Department that's totally, obviously, doesn't like America, but is focused supposedly on freedoms in other countries, and we're sending half a trillion to Ukraine to liberate Ukraine?
But we have these grotesque human rights violations right across our border, and no one says anything about it from the State Department.
It does, and something that was revealed in these documents related to this Jeremy McKenzie fellow is that members of the Five Eyes security arrangement were basically brought into this.
Sort of wild goose chase after this guy.
And so, like, your own security services resources were wasted chasing a Canadian podcaster.
I'm just understanding that most of the Canadian media are corporate welfare cases and that you're never going to get the truth out of them, much like a lot of the media here.
Stay awake to that.
If they wanted to, they could help the Coutts 4 guys.
We have a new Give, Send, Go set up for them, simply called Trudeau's Political Prisoners, because they have the full weight of the state against them, and they've had trouble getting decent and competent legal representation because, you know, being a lawyer or a judge in Canada means in some way you're connected to the Liberal Party, right?
right?
Like 76% of judges in Canada are donors to and members of the liberal party.
So it's very difficult to like fight this in court.
And so if Americans want to help, like we could really use some money to get these guys have decent lawyers.
We have a similar uniparty problem where the NDP and the liberals work together and help each other out in order to stay in power, and the conservatives lie down and take it.
Well, you know what his associates in the NDP are doing?
They have proposed legislation to make the discussion of those church burnings and the residential school program illegal.
You either accept the government's narrative about the residential schools program, which led to all these church burnings, or you're going to go to jail.
They're going to make it akin to Holocaust denial to actually...
First of all, any historical event can be questioned legitimately, any event, and reassessed in light of new evidence, existing evidence reinterpreted.
So anybody who criminalizes or uses force to discourage an assessment of any historical event is acting on behalf of evil and deception, of course, by definition.
And, you know, I think, like, a joint operation between the South Dakota National Guard and the New Hampshire and Maine National Guards maybe could probably do it, given, like, Canada's military is also in a shambles.