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Jan. 2, 2024 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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Tucker Carlson - Is the Fed lowering rates to get Joe Biden reelected, or is the truth actually much scarier than that? Jeffrey Gundlach explains.
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About three weeks ago, Jay Powell, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, announced that it was, quote, premature to conclude with confidence that we have achieved a sufficiently restrictive stance or to speculate on when policy might ease.
That's Fed speak, and in case you're not familiar with it, that means we plan to keep interest rates high.
Okay.
Then last week, two weeks later, with no warning at all, Jay Powell seemed to pivot dramatically.
Let's say almost the opposite.
Actually, he said, cutting interest rates is something that, quote, begins to come into view and is clearly a topic of discussion out in the world and also a discussion for us at our meeting today.
In other words, we are lowering rates.
So many people who are paying attention concluded that this was political.
Joe Biden is losing the race and the Fed is trying to save him.
But what is even worse than that?
What if it's not just Joe Biden they're trying to save, but the U.S. economy?
What if the fundamentals are so weak underneath that the Fed is desperately scrambling, groping in the dark to figure out what to do?
You have to think that's possible.
The Fed is supposed to be stable.
That's why they speak like 19th century jurists, to convey stability.
But if they're changing their mind and the biggest question that they address in two weeks, one direction, another direction, That suggests chaos.
And that's bad.
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The world has fundamentally changed because of the zero interest rate policy.
You know, we have all this debt.
It was made possible by zero interest rates.
And in the past, decade after decade, when you had low unemployment, you had low deficits.
That makes sense.
When there's low unemployment, you don't have to pay so much unemployment benefits.
You have higher tax receipts because more people are employed.
But starting in 2015, something changed.
We've had low unemployment since 2015, and yet the deficit has been rising since 2015. This is unprecedented to have a rising deficit.
With what's considered to be close to full employment.
So we have a debt-based economic scheme.
The deficit is a percent of GDP is running at above 6%.
People talk about this is a good economy, but if we actually didn't run a budget deficit, if we had a balanced budget, GDP would be negative over the last 12 months.
And so this is the fundamental problem.
And I think that's factoring somewhat into the Fed's logic, but it's not tenable.
We cannot keep going on.
With this deficit-based scheme.
I think people are starting to understand that.
It's amazing how many things have so fundamentally changed.
You know, when I was in college, there was this Greenpeace movement and their motto was save the whales.
And now the environmentalist movement is killing the whales with windmill construction in the ocean.
You know, when I was in college, I went to Dartmouth College near the Vermont-New Hampshire border.
It's in New Hampshire.
There were a lot of sort of hippie types that had bumper stickers that said, split wood, not atoms.
And now what are we doing?
We're saying zero carbon.
We're now saying anything but split wood, anything but burn coal.
So everything changes.
You know, the women's movement was a big deal back in the 70s.
Women's right.
Equal opportunity.
Now it's the opposite of that.
Now it's women's, at least in athletics, women are under attack.
So it's weird how everything changes, but that's the way society and long-term economic cycles work, is that things that were norms in the past become outdated as societal...
Conditions change, attitudes change, the means of production change, and those norms just can't hold up.
And we're in one of those radical transformations.
Of course, we see that in the political spectrum, where, you know, everyone thought the 2016 election was wacky, and then the 2020 election turned out to be wackier.
And I think everybody can sense that the 2024 election is going to be the wackiest of our lifetime.
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