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Dec. 16, 2023 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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Tucker Carlson - Ep. 54 Not your typical interview.
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kid rock
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tucker carlson
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tucker carlson
Okay, so the fact that you two know each other is, I guess, maybe inevitable, but also a little shocking.
How do you know each other?
kid rock
Shocking.
tucker carlson
Well, because it's so perfect.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
tucker carlson
It's too perfect.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
We can actually have a conversation.
tucker carlson
I believe it.
unidentified
Many men know seven.
kid rock
This is the only friend I have where I'm the responsible one.
unidentified
Not always.
More than I am with you, but yeah, you're right about that.
tucker carlson
So you met on a golf course?
unidentified
He came out to Warwick Hills and he was on the 17th hole.
kid rock
No, we met years before that.
I didn't even golf.
unidentified
I hated golf.
kid rock
You're like, why don't you golf?
I'm like, it's gay.
tucker carlson
Did you get a little gayer once you started?
kid rock
Oh, I'm completely gay now.
unidentified
I love golf.
I got him to play the Pro-Am at Warwick Hills.
All he wanted to do was hit a drive down the middle of Fairway.
kid rock
I did, first shot.
unidentified
And you absolutely killed it.
kid rock
I didn't really golf at the time, so we were just having fun.
He drives my General Lee up there with my brother, and like, it's just a shit show.
And so I'm like, let's have some fun.
So I just wear a pair of overalls, crack a beer, and I'm like, and you know, these sports writers in Detroit are like, do you golf?
I'm like, oh, I was going to go pro, but the music thing got in the way, so I just focused on, I'm just totally bullshitting them.
And I smack one down the middle.
Just killed it.
No shoes, overalls.
And so now these guys, until I hit my second shot, I had them all convinced.
They're like, wow, he could have gone pro.
And then they figured it out after I hit another ball.
For that five minutes, I had them all fooled.
unidentified
He walked really slow getting to that ball, too.
tucker carlson
So that was the first time you guys hung out?
unidentified
Well, we hung out a little bit, but we became really good friends probably that one.
I'd say that way.
I ended up staying in his place in Clarkston for that tournament every year.
kid rock
I stayed in my place every year.
I used to have to yell.
One year I was doing shows and you and Fuckhead were up in the guest house just boozing it up.
tucker carlson
Who's Fuckhead?
kid rock
His caddy, a South African caddy.
unidentified
He's funny though.
kid rock
He's funny as shit, but I'm trying to sleep because I got shows the next day and I don't mess around between shows.
You know what I mean?
In the early years, yeah, it was a little different.
You know, I stay on my game.
And I'm like, you guys got to shut up, man.
I got to play.
tucker carlson
What were they doing?
unidentified
I'm like, ah, football!
We stayed in this little guest room up top.
It had two bedrooms.
But I don't know.
It's probably one.
I love to cook.
kid rock
Oh, they got lasagna going.
unidentified
I could get him food all week long.
But anyway, his oven in there, I don't know how old that sandwich is, but let me tell you something.
I want that oven.
It's one of the best ovens I've ever cooked in.
kid rock
It's an electric oven.
There it was.
This is my old house outside Detroit.
unidentified
Oh, it was amazing.
What did you do?
You sold all that?
Did you keep the oven?
No.
That thing's vintage.
kid rock
Sold all.
Pretty much everything in it.
unidentified
Signs that are so old when you go on your property and you don't keep a vintage oven like that.
kid rock
No, I didn't keep the oven.
I kept the signs.
unidentified
I should have stole that son of a bitch.
kid rock
I still got the codes.
tucker carlson
Most people can't appreciate a good oven from a bad oven.
unidentified
Oh, I can't.
tucker carlson
So did you kick him out?
kid rock
No, I kind of got hard on his shit a little bit.
Because, you know, I'm serious about work.
And then, I think you dropped out of the tournament.
Like something, he's like, my leg hurts.
I had to withdraw from the tournament.
Your leg hurts.
I'm like, that wouldn't be that freaking handle of vodka you drank last night, would it?
unidentified
No, that actually helped.
kid rock
And then he's kind of on the couch.
I'll never forget this, like a little kid.
And he's like, and I had a show we were flying to somewhere.
And he's like, and I was pissed at him.
Because these shenanigans were going on.
I love him like a brother.
But I'm like, he had me upset.
And he's like, is it okay if I go to the show with you tonight?
I'm like, no, it's not okay!
Of course, he ended up going to the show.
I had a good time.
I love him.
unidentified
Great time.
tucker carlson
That's amazing.
So you're the moderate, restrained, advice-giving partner in the school.
unidentified
Not all the time.
Can you name a time when you've had to pull him back?
That's it.
Client, attorney, privilege.
Whatever the hell that thing is.
kid rock
I would cook them breakfast every day.
For the one Buick Open you were doing, I was like, I'd have some eggs made for them, this, that, and the other.
Oh, thanks, bub.
You got any Diet Coke?
Three Diet Cokes.
I'm like, I actually almost won that one.
tucker carlson
How many do you drink a day, Diet Cokes?
unidentified
Not as many as Daddy Trump.
My God, I thought I could drink them, but man, he can drink them.
tucker carlson
He's unbelievable.
kid rock
He does put them away.
unidentified
Yeah.
I used to put them away.
I used to have about 20, 22 of them a day.
tucker carlson
22 Diet Cokes a day?
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
So you're getting all your hydration from Diet Coke?
unidentified
Pretty much, yeah.
I could probably outlast a camel when it comes if I have to drink water.
I can't stand water.
tucker carlson
Yeah, I know what you mean.
unidentified
I hate it.
kid rock
See what I'm dealing with here?
unidentified
No, but when I drink, you know, I'm a Diet Coke.
There's ice in there.
There's water in there.
tucker carlson
100%.
So why'd you pull back?
unidentified
I don't know.
I just don't drink as many.
I drink a lot of these now.
tucker carlson
Right, because there's no vodka in Diet Coke.
unidentified
Right.
Well, unless you pour something in there.
tucker carlson
Did your doctor, like how many Diet Cokes can he drink a day and still live?
unidentified
He don't want me drinking any.
tucker carlson
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Is it bad for you?
unidentified
For bladder, yeah.
tucker carlson
I mean, Trump's like in his 70s.
kid rock
Yeah, but he smokes cigarettes, so he kind of balances it out.
unidentified
Exactly.
tucker carlson
It's totally right.
unidentified
Well, nicotine and caffeine equal protein, Tucker.
You know?
tucker carlson
I've actually proven that.
That's totally true.
I meant to ask you when we talked earlier.
You were talking about your heroes on the tour, other golfers you admire.
Is there anyone you don't like?
kid rock
Bernard Langer.
unidentified
I love Bernard.
He's a great guy.
He just kicks my ass.
kid rock
I just always give him shit, because he always wins all the tournaments.
unidentified
Let's put it in.
Me and Curtis Strange never got along.
tucker carlson
What's he like?
unidentified
He just wasn't nice to me.
He just wasn't a nice guy to me.
kid rock
Who would not be nice to you?
tucker carlson
Yeah, why?
kid rock
He's the nicest guy you've ever met.
unidentified
I was a rookie, and he just didn't like rookies.
He just didn't like me.
Then I won the PGA 91, and I stole his caddy at the 91 Skins game.
Really?
kid rock
What'd she look like?
unidentified
She's pretty hot now.
Boatsy, we won the British Open together in 95. He came from me a long time, and he passed away.
God, it was brutal what he went through.
He got robbed.
They beat him up.
Next thing I know, he was in a wheelchair.
And he just, I don't know, he got dementia or something.
It was sad.
tucker carlson
From the beating he took?
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Where was he robbed?
unidentified
At his house in Jacksonville.
And all the flag.
He won two U.S. Opens with Curtis.
Won a few tournaments with me.
But all his Ryder Cup stuff, all his flags, he took off the polls when he went.
See, a caddy will take that flag off the polls when they win.
And the pro will sign it.
Let me try with us.
No, no.
tucker carlson
And it all got stolen?
unidentified
Robbed him and beat the living hell out of him.
tucker carlson
It was sad.
And killed him in the end.
unidentified
Raped his wife.
I mean, it was sad.
tucker carlson
Did they ever get caught?
unidentified
I don't think so.
tucker carlson
That's horrifying.
unidentified
Way to lighten the mood, Johnny!
Sorry.
tucker carlson
What's the worst crime you've ever read about?
unidentified
Damn.
One, I'm fixing to commit, maybe.
I don't know.
tucker carlson
Damn, that's awful.
So that's the caddy you stole from Strange?
Did your relationship ever get better with him?
unidentified
Not really, no.
I'm still waiting for an apology.
tucker carlson
Where is he?
unidentified
Who cares?
tucker carlson
So you never kind of warmed up to him?
unidentified
Look, I can get along with anybody.
tucker carlson
Yeah, I can tell.
unidentified
He just didn't like me for some reason.
Oh, hey, look at here.
Go to JohnDailyShop.com, folks.
Get you a John Daily torch lighter.
Look at that one.
We got the little lighters.
My favorite.
tucker carlson
That's a Richard Pryor lighter right there.
unidentified
This is the one you like right here.
If you want crack cocaine for dessert.
Here, that's the one you like.
tucker carlson
Creme brulee and crack cocaine.
kid rock
Creme brulee, yeah.
tucker carlson
So when you guys go in public, how does it work?
unidentified
We just walk in like we're just in your...
That's what I love about him.
He doesn't act like Kid Rock.
He acts like Bobby.
He's just a friend.
We go out to eat.
People come up a little bit, but most people respect our space, you know?
kid rock
People are always like, I love your security guard.
unidentified
He's cool.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what they call me.
Security guard.
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Have you ever had to hold groupies at bay?
unidentified
Oh, there's been a few, huh?
They're everywhere.
kid rock
Where were you 15 years ago?
tucker carlson
Are there a lot of groupies in the PGA Tour?
unidentified
Oh my god, yeah.
tucker carlson
How are golf groupies different from rock and roll groupies?
unidentified
Probably the same.
tucker carlson
You think so?
unidentified
Yeah, they're all trying to tag on to somebody that's going to think they've got money or has money or whatever.
I don't partake in...
kid rock
That lifestyle.
unidentified
I didn't either.
tucker carlson
Are there still groupies and rock and rollers or too much?
kid rock
At this stage in the game, you're kind of like, put them away.
unidentified
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Yeah, well, it's the stage in your game, of course.
unidentified
But 15 years ago, like, pull them up!
Pull them up!
Take your pants off!
Do it all!
tucker carlson
No, but is that still a thing, or did Me Too stop all that?
kid rock
I don't know.
I'm in and out when I play.
tucker carlson
No, I get it in your case, but I mean like guys who were...
32. Yeah, why wouldn't there be?
kid rock
Because, you know, I think, honestly, like, over the years, it's gotten kind of, I mean, how could you do anything in this day and age?
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
You know, in terms of, I call it having fun.
tucker carlson
Right.
kid rock
Like, whenever we did wild stuff back in the day, like, there was no victims.
Everybody wanted to have fun.
tucker carlson
Right.
kid rock
It was just rock and roll.
You know, it was just that and the other.
And, you know, I always made it a point myself and with other people.
It's like, if there was wild stuff happening, like, let's treat everybody very kind.
Very nice.
There's no reason to be mean.
tucker carlson
Of course.
kid rock
Especially in a situation that's weird.
tucker carlson
Right.
kid rock
You know?
Everybody was trying to hang out and do those things when I was playing for 50 people in Cleveland, Ohio.
You know?
I don't know.
I kind of feel bad for the younger generation because it seems like it was kind of looking back and I would think that everybody involved with that.
With all the madness that was going on, I was having a good time.
We always had a strict policy.
It's like, hey, you don't mess with somebody's girlfriend or wife.
There's just certain things that are just way out of bounds.
But everybody wants to have a good time, especially when you're young.
But there's just a right and a wrong way to do it.
You know, I mean, nowadays you see kids, it's like, you know, I think they're scared to go up and tell a girl, you know, like, hey, you're pretty.
unidentified
No, they'll text me.
kid rock
They're like, ah, you raped me!
unidentified
You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I just told you you were pretty.
tucker carlson
Right, so, I mean, there's not, you can't really have, like, a Led Zeppelin tour.
kid rock
I've been out of the games.
unidentified
It's the phones, you know.
You know, back in the day, you didn't have phones.
kid rock
Well, life has turned into a picture.
unidentified
Yeah, it's just nothing but a picture, a video.
kid rock
You don't go anywhere.
unidentified
People are always looking to get us doing something wrong because that makes the news.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
unidentified
But if we, you know, give a kid a hundred bucks for selling golf balls and buy all his balls and now you keep him selling, that never gets out anymore.
tucker carlson
No, of course not.
kid rock
That doesn't get clicks and views.
unidentified
Nah, it doesn't get any.
It has to be bad media.
kid rock
It's sad.
Everything's turned so negative.
And sometimes I even use it, you know, to like promote things.
I'll just go stir the pot a little bit whenever I got to promote and the media will bite on the hook.
unidentified
Hey Tucker, I'll drink yours.
tucker carlson
Would you mind?
unidentified
Would you like one bottle?
kid rock
What's that?
tucker carlson
Yeah.
unidentified
Good boy.
tucker carlson
Why do you call it good boy?
unidentified
Because I'm the bad boy of golf.
So we thought we'd change my image and call it good boy.
tucker carlson
By selling vodka?
Does that work?
You think I'm a bad boy?
unidentified
It says good boy, but you drink enough of these, you'll become a bad boy.
I promise you.
kid rock
Hey, look, everybody's drinking water that says liquid death.
unidentified
I know.
Really?
You kind of just went the other way with it.
tucker carlson
What's the most number of those you've consumed at once?
unidentified
Oh, I can drink four of these in a day.
tucker carlson
How many?
unidentified
Forty, easily.
tucker carlson
Forty?
unidentified
Yeah.
I've sat with him when I drank three bottles of vodka.
kid rock
Confirmed.
unidentified
Back in the day, it was like three bottles of Jack Daniels or Crown, but since I got cancer, I went to vodka and went to the clear shit.
tucker carlson
Just because it's healthier.
kid rock
Just keeping it healthy.
tucker carlson
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I think there comes a point in every man's life...
unidentified
You had to dial it back, just, you know, go to two packs.
Two packs a day and a bottle of vodka, I have cancer.
kid rock
No, I do.
tucker carlson
Do you feel a health improvement moving from the dark liquor to the light liquor?
unidentified
No.
No.
tucker carlson
I think doctors are lying about that.
When they say, no, drink a handle of vodka instead of the Jack, I don't think there's any improvement.
unidentified
They say the brown's bad for your body, but hell.
kid rock
It's bad for your soul.
unidentified
What soul?
I got soul.
kid rock
Makes you crazy.
unidentified
I love it.
No, whiskey does make you.
Ever since I got off of it.
kid rock
Tequila.
unidentified
I can't drink tequila.
I can't drink that.
I can't smell it.
kid rock
I've drank tequila three times.
I've been to jail three times.
unidentified
I used to drink the worm in college to get a big thing of Long Island iced tea for the golf team.
tucker carlson
Oh, I remember that.
kid rock
I think drinking vodka is differently than I have witnessed.
Turning a handle of vodka up like this.
Having a vodka drink.
unidentified
Right.
tucker carlson
A little more manageable.
You've been in jail three times?
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
For what?
kid rock
Fighting.
It's usually for standing up for somebody.
tucker carlson
Yes.
kid rock
To be honest.
tucker carlson
How many of those fights did you win?
unidentified
I don't know.
kid rock
I was drunk.
tucker carlson
You didn't even score at that point?
kid rock
Waffle House.
unidentified
I remember the Waffle House.
kid rock
Something in Mount Clemens.
We're young.
What was the other one?
tucker carlson
You actually got arrested at Waffle House?
kid rock
Yeah.
It's a big story, Good Hunker.
tucker carlson
That was like before it was cool to get arrested.
That was before everybody got arrested at Waffle House.
kid rock
I was standing up with some girls.
unidentified
He was sponsored by Waffle House for a while.
kid rock
I love Waffle House.
You know what I did, and I think people should hear this, is what I've always tried to do is take a negative and turn it into a positive.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
So that incident happened, and I had my reasoning, and it was just an old-fashioned fight.
Yeah.
Right?
Nobody had guns.
You know, there was windows dropped and it was rather violent.
You know, things happened.
But, you know, it's crazy.
My record went number one.
I only had one number one record in my career.
It was Rock and Roll Jesus and the thing went number one the next day.
I'm like, they just keep rewarding me for what seems like bad behavior.
I don't know.
tucker carlson
Defending the honor of a woman at Waffle House?
I'm not going to call that bad.
kid rock
I went back to...
It's a long story, but I went back to that Waffle House months later and had people come pay money to take a picture, sign autographs, and gave it to a local abuse shelter for women.
I was like, let's take this and do something positive out of it.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
kid rock
Which I've always tried to have that mindset.
You know, things happen.
People get wild.
Blah, blah, blah.
They get a little out of hand.
I wish it was more like that.
Like, you know, screw you.
Hey, sorry, man.
tucker carlson
Have you seen the guy you fought?
kid rock
Only in court.
tucker carlson
Really?
kid rock
He was not happy.
tucker carlson
Why?
kid rock
He was a rather large black gentleman.
tucker carlson
Yep.
kid rock
And it was me and my band members and we're all like little skinny white kids.
unidentified
And he didn't come out well in that ordeal.
tucker carlson
Oh, so he was humiliated.
kid rock
A little bit.
tucker carlson
Do you learn anything in prison?
kid rock
It wasn't prison.
It's like jail.
tucker carlson
No, but when you did the hard time.
kid rock
Did it change you?
They let us have our phones.
We're taking pictures in there.
unidentified
Are you serious?
tucker carlson
What kind of jail?
kid rock
Trust me, I'm no hardened criminal from the mean streets of Romeo, Michigan being raised very middle to upper class.
tucker carlson
Did you ever get arrested?
unidentified
Yeah.
I wore the orange suit.
It was a great Hooters ad.
tucker carlson
What happened?
unidentified
It happened at Hooters.
No, it actually wasn't.
tucker carlson
Wait, so you got arrested at Waffle House and you got arrested at Hooters?
unidentified
Yeah, because I didn't have a ride.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
Fair.
unidentified
And the manager was so cool.
He said, look, I'll put him on my motorcycle.
I'll take him back.
I was with a certain great country star.
We went on the road for three or four days.
They were writing songs and stuff.
And I had the 100% card, so, of course.
kid rock
I had that card.
You got me those cards.
tucker carlson
Wait, what's 100% card?
kid rock
It says on the back of it, if I remember Hooters, it's like, even though I make the big bucks, I'm sticking Hooters with the tab.
I'm sticking Hooters with the tab, except for drinks.
unidentified
Yeah?
kid rock
They wouldn't pay for your drinks, but all the food is free.
tucker carlson
It's like free wings.
unidentified
It's the best card on the planet, because Hooters has the best food on the planet.
kid rock
That's a tough sell.
unidentified
We'll get you one.
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
I've never been to Hooters.
unidentified
You need one?
kid rock
You've never been to Hooters?
tucker carlson
Never.
unidentified
Really?
tucker carlson
Never.
kid rock
What planet do you live on?
tucker carlson
I don't know.
And I've never been arrested at Walthouse.
And I feel like I've led a pretty varied and interesting life.
But even though I make the big bucks, I'm sticking Hooters with 100% of the bill.
Except for the tip.
unidentified
Except for the tip.
tucker carlson
Dude, that almost perfect recall.
unidentified
So that only works at HOA stores.
So like if you come to the province stores, which is 27 stores.
tucker carlson
This says John Daly, Hooters spokesperson.
unidentified
Yeah.
tucker carlson
That's incredible.
kid rock
That's better than the African-American Express card from African-American Express, the black card.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
You can't say black card anymore.
unidentified
That thing weighs 10 pounds.
tucker carlson
Wait, wait.
I'm sorry.
I want to step on your story.
So you're at Hooters, and even though you have the 100% card, you wind up leaving on the back of a motorcycle with a country music store.
unidentified
No, I didn't.
They got arrested.
If a guy was running his mouth, I was asleep in my buddy's bus.
And I woke up and get out here.
I didn't say a word.
What are you doing?
I was sleeping.
Hey, don't get violent at me.
I said, don't, sir.
I was sleeping.
tucker carlson
It was just the police?
unidentified
Yeah.
And where's your ride?
I go, well, it's in the bus.
And then the guy I was with kind of kicked me off the bus.
That 100% card paid for all their drinks, all their food.
Everywhere we went was during March Madness.
And he wanted to watch the basketball because one of his favorite teams was in there.
tucker carlson
So you were just going from Hooters to Hooters?
unidentified
Well, we were going show to show.
We all love Hooters.
And I love him today.
We're best friends still.
But he says, I can't have this.
You know, I got this on my bus and all that.
I said, dude, whatever.
I can get a flight home.
No problem.
And they leave.
General Magic comes out and says, I'll give you a ride, John.
I'll get you a hotel.
I was going to have Anna come get me.
We're going to fly home.
Puts me in the back of a car because the other guy was being kind of not so nice.
So when we get to the police station, miss identity.
They thought I was the one raving and being a lunatic, but it was the other guy.
He comes up, he goes, sorry, John, I'm out of here.
So I stayed.
Jail cell.
Hey, they had ESPN. They had a meal.
tucker carlson
This doesn't sound accurate.
unidentified
Was there drinking involved?
I was drunk as hell.
But I went to sleep on the bus.
That's all I did.
tucker carlson
You're sleeping on a bus outside Hooters.
Someone wakes you up from a dead sleep.
You're drunk.
And then they just bring you to a prison cell?
unidentified
Yeah.
And the chief, when he found out who I was, he said, you could sue the hell out of us because we did mistake the identity.
kid rock
Oh, come on.
Next topic.
This ain't going nowhere.
unidentified
I swear to God.
kid rock
He's been thrown out of my shows.
unidentified
No, I didn't get thrown out.
I had to sit on the steps.
tucker carlson
How do you get thrown out of a Kid Rock show?
kid rock
You're one of my best friends.
unidentified
Never been thrown out of the show.
kid rock
He's got no shirt on.
He's got a Jim Beam bottle tilted like this.
unidentified
He's like, ah!
I was looking for the crown.
kid rock
I'm like, where's John?
They're like, they had to toss you.
I'm like, what?
unidentified
No, they made me sit on the step.
tucker carlson
Right, yeah.
They're barely getting tossed.
unidentified
I didn't say a word.
I was like, oh shit, I don't want to piss him off.
tucker carlson
But you were shirtless at a Kid Rock show.
unidentified
As long as I had my pants on, I was okay.
kid rock
Everywhere.
He's got no fucks in his pocket, dude.
tucker carlson
Yeah, I noticed that.
unidentified
It's a Kid Rock concert, hell.
Girls take their shirts off, why can't I? I'd pay to see that.
kid rock
That's called inclusion.
tucker carlson
Have you been to a lot of...
unidentified
It's equal rights.
Let's go politics.
It's civil rights, damn it.
tucker carlson
Have you been to a lot of his shows?
unidentified
A lot of them.
I've been to shows when he didn't know I was there.
I didn't want to bother him.
He goes, I ain't putting you in that green room.
Well, come on.
kid rock
No, that's in Nashville.
We set up this dressing room, like, it's all these...
People would do these dressing rooms to impress radio people and stuff, and they're like, so-and-so group does sushi, and they lay out the spread, and they're trying to get good graces with them, get their songs, play this, that, and the other.
And I'm like, I'm beyond that.
I'm like, if I could put Spam, bologna, some Wonder Bread, Moon Pies in there, and then put some liquor in there.
Put some vodka, whiskey, and beer.
Was it Nashville?
They were like, John Daly's back there making everybody spam and bologna sandwiches.
unidentified
I made a sandwich for your mom and dad.
It was great.
It was like his chef.
tucker carlson
How do you live in modern America completely outside the boundaries?
unidentified
Because we stay outside the boundaries.
kid rock
We just like good people, like-minded people.
Actually, we'll hang with anybody.
We don't care.
Somebody's cool, they're cool.
That just reminded me of a crazy story.
tucker carlson
I agree with that.
kid rock
The cruise we did for like 10 years, the chillin' the most cruise.
We had the number one cruise, you know, where a couple thousand, two, three thousand of your biggest fans go on there.
And there was always people wanting to do coverage on it.
We let GQ Magazine do one.
And that was fine.
It was like, they want to do reality shows.
And so I go, no, these people are just going to make fun of my fans and me.
I just don't want them around.
Well, these two gay kids infiltrated through another band.
And they wrote this whole blog.
You could probably Google it.
Like, put gay kids, kid rock, chill in the most crews or something.
They wrote this whole blog about, like, we wanted to go to the heart of Trump country.
You know, you could see they were going in as Negative Nancy.
And they write this whole article.
And it was so endearing because at the end they were like...
We actually had the best time of our lives.
No one gave a shit.
It's like, if you're cool and you want to party, man, come on.
tucker carlson
What was it?
So you're on the boat for a week or whatever?
kid rock
It was like four nights or whatever, yeah.
tucker carlson
Where?
kid rock
You would go to different places, mostly the Caribbean.
You leave out of Miami.
I think we left out of New Orleans a couple times.
But fuck, I get seasick.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
Like that first show was always awesome.
I'm on point.
And then that second show, I'm like, poof!
Throwing up in my mouth.
Train wreck.
tucker carlson
So what's it like to be on a boat with all your fans?
kid rock
It makes you feel like the most blessed, greatest person on earth.
That these people love you so much and you love them back.
And it's crazy because you feel so good and everyone's having such a good time.
Like, yeah, people are getting messed up and having a good time, but guys are opening doors for women.
People are taking care of people when they have too much to drink.
Like, everyone's kind of, for lack of a better term, in the same boat.
tucker carlson
Yeah, where else are you going to go?
kid rock
It's just a bunch of like-minded people having a good time.
They don't care where you're from or what you do.
There's people there that work for, like, special people in the government.
There was high school principals.
Like, you know, there's just regular working-class people.
There's rich people, like, just like this.
And then the bands.
You know, there's like 12 bands on there that are all different.
I always take an old-school rapper, some country guys, like this, that, and the other.
Everybody's just having the time of their life.
You know, during COVID, we kind of stopped doing them, and I'm pretty confident we always joke, like, if I die, people would do this without me, just to get together with those people, because they're the ones that made us.
It's just like this Rock the Country thing we're doing.
I was talking to the people that we're doing it with, and we want to create a great environment for them, but I'm like...
No one's going to create a better environment than the people that come.
tucker carlson
No, that's totally right.
kid rock
For themselves and for each other.
Like, that's going to be the thing, is the people.
It always is the people.
You know, I'm going to do my best to entertain them and give them what they want.
So is Jason Aldean and all the other people.
But the people are going to be what make it.
We just got to give them, if you build it, you know, that type of thing.
tucker carlson
No, it's totally right.
So would you, like, go down to the bar after your show and...
kid rock
Oh, yeah.
That's the problem.
tucker carlson
Yeah!
kid rock
Yeah.
Casino, bar.
You want to go see other bands play.
We had comedians on there.
You know, different stuff.
And you want to go to all the shows.
And then next thing you know, you feel like you're one of the cruisers.
And I'm like, oh, damn, I got to work.
tucker carlson
You got to work.
kid rock
It's very tough to maintain because you're having such a good time with everybody else.
tucker carlson
That sounds like a lot.
You must have been exhausted by the end.
kid rock
Oh, never been laid out like that in my life.
And Audrey will tell you the same thing.
The first couple, like maybe the first three, four we did was like three, four days to recover.
I'm pretty good at recovery.
tucker carlson
How do you do it?
kid rock
I'm a seasoned vet.
You lay on the freaking couch, sit in the sauna.
But I would be seasick too.
If you've ever been seasick, I would rather have the flu.
I'd rather be punched in the face than be seasick.
tucker carlson
Oh, I agree with that.
kid rock
And my whole family gets it.
I look at my phone while we're driving, I'm like...
It's terrible.
tucker carlson
How do you recover after you have 40 of those?
unidentified
Start drinking again.
tucker carlson
Is that true?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tucker carlson
Do you have like a time limit in the morning?
unidentified
If you fall on a horse, you're going to get back on it.
tucker carlson
I think that's right.
unidentified
How's that cigar?
tucker carlson
It's actually tremendous.
unidentified
It's good, isn't it?
tucker carlson
Yeah, it is.
I don't get to smoke enough of them.
unidentified
Well, you're going to get plenty of them.
tucker carlson
Thank you for that.
I'm going to smoke one every day.
So you don't, I mean, even as you age, you don't have problems recovering.
kid rock
It ain't getting easier.
unidentified
It's not getting easier, but right now I'm still okay.
kid rock
Cornbread and iced teas took the place of pills and 90 proof.
tucker carlson
Cornbread and iced tea?
kid rock
Oh, heck, junior line.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tucker carlson
We used to go to Taco Bell on a hangover morning, you know, at like 10 in the morning, and order, you know, four tacos with extra cheese, big Mountain Dew and some Chalupas, and then wash it down with beer and cigarettes.
And it would just say to your body, like, I'm not, you know, I'm not going to succumb.
Daddy's home.
unidentified
You've got to do that at 2 in the morning, though.
Not 10 in the morning.
tucker carlson
No, you've got to do it at 10 in the morning.
Because 10 in the morning, it's so aggressive that you just say to your body, I mean, I don't drink at all anymore, but I used to.
You just have to reestablish control.
kid rock
Do you know what I mean?
tucker carlson
I don't know what that means.
kid rock
At 6 to 2 a.m., you're just getting warmed up.
At 2 a.m., you're like, all right, let's go.
At 10 a.m., you're like...
tucker carlson
Yeah.
kid rock
All right.
Let's think about this.
unidentified
Yeah.
tucker carlson
I'm in bed at 10 p.m., so...
kid rock
I'm in bed at 10.30.
tucker carlson
Are you really?
kid rock
I'm up at 3.30, 4 a.m.
tucker carlson
What are you doing at 4 a.m.?
kid rock
Checking my emails and stuff.
Like, I get all my business done.
I just get that time by myself with nobody bothering me.
tucker carlson
Do you take a nap?
kid rock
I take a nap every day, yeah.
tucker carlson
For how long?
kid rock
45 minutes to an hour.
tucker carlson
Do you really?
unidentified
Every day?
kid rock
Putting out a little Bob Ross.
tucker carlson
Did you really put on Bob Ross?
kid rock
Oh, it's so calming.
tucker carlson
Bob Ross the painter?
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
The way his voice.
I've been doing it since like when I used to have to tape it on a Betamax machine and then I would, you know, I was a music nerd, technical nerd in that space.
I engineered studios and stuff.
tucker carlson
Are you listening to this?
Do you know who Bob Ross was?
kid rock
So I would take those outputs and put it onto a cassette tape and then put it in my Walkman.
tucker carlson
Do you guys know who Bob Ross was?
kid rock
Everybody knows Bob Ross.
Everybody knows Bob Ross.
tucker carlson
So you listen to Bob Ross like a soundtrack?
kid rock
It's like meditation music.
His voice just calms me down.
unidentified
You know how I've taken that?
Put golf on.
kid rock
Really?
That too.
That works.
unidentified
Yeah.
No disrespect to the commentators, but man, they got the voices that just...
I think golf would wind you up.
They don't show enough shots.
tucker carlson
Oh.
unidentified
You know, and the game's so slow, a guy could be putting, and he's like, oh, well, we'll come back in a minute.
tucker carlson
Yeah, they do talk a lot.
unidentified
Five minutes later, he still hadn't putted.
You're going like, okay, there's another commercial.
Three minutes.
kid rock
They talk like all these fucking Hollywood actors are doing it.
Have you noticed this?
This is a big pet peeve of mine.
You're watching some streaming show of this, that, and the other, and for some reason, the majority of these people want to talk.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
unidentified
And you're trying to get engaged in the show, and then the music comes on, like, bomb!
kid rock
You're like, God damn it!
You're like, can't you just talk in a normal voice?
unidentified
Well, you know what that is?
kid rock
I know that some scripts...
unidentified
Well, you know what that is?
Sometimes, 18, they have the glass open, so if somebody's putting, you can actually hear the echo if they're talking.
That's why a lot of them talk really softly.
kid rock
I think we're talking about two different things.
unidentified
In golf, I mean...
kid rock
I'm talking about regular, like, streaming, like, movies and shit.
unidentified
Like, everyone's like, I'm so cool I talk like this.
kid rock
You're like, I can't fucking hear you.
Like, you're an actor.
Maybe you want to get across a dialogue.
I understand things might call for a whisper, like if a mob guy's telling something to somebody in some whatever show.
You're like, but they all, not all, but the majority of them are like, hey, I'm so cool I talk like this.
I'm like, I can't fucking hear you.
I'm trying to enjoy your show.
tucker carlson
What, are you a grandfather now?
kid rock
Ah, twice.
unidentified
I am.
I know it's unbelievable.
Junior's got some beautiful kids.
tucker carlson
Are you a grandfather?
unidentified
Not yet.
kid rock
You're close.
tucker carlson
Are you encouraging it?
kid rock
He doesn't have a choice.
None of us do.
unidentified
Nah, let them do what they do.
kid rock
Are you a grandpa yet?
tucker carlson
I'm not.
And I'm bitter about it.
You can't be a biblical patriarch until you're a grandfather.
Period.
unidentified
There you go.
tucker carlson
How old were you when you became a grandfather?
kid rock
Oh man, my granddaughter's eight and I'm 52. That's incredible.
It gets cold in Detroit.
I had my son when I was 23, and he had my first grandchild when he was 21. Good for him!
We could have the chance, if I can keep my shit together, maybe I'm five generations at some point.
tucker carlson
Easily.
You could easily do that.
kid rock
That's a key point.
I gotta keep my shit together.
tucker carlson
Do you play guitar?
You play guitar.
unidentified
A little bit.
Enough to write.
Just enough to write.
tucker carlson
We've got a guitar right here.
unidentified
That's a guitar player right there.
No.
kid rock
Look at this thing.
What is this, for my granddaughter?
unidentified
It's a baby tender.
Let's have some fun with these drinks.
Let's do it.
John Daly Goodboy, what is up to you?
There you go.
Slide it, baby.
Slide it, baby.
That's awesome Let me tell you a story Come on, Johnny!
About this old bad boy.
When he drinks these old good boys, Lord.
There's a lot of joy, and I'm telling you right now.
Only 4.5% of alcohol.
No additive sugars, y'all.
And baby, we are gluten free.
Come on.
Take it, Bob.
That is so awesome.
kid rock
I can't deal with it.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
kid rock
Outstanding!
tucker carlson
Come on!
unidentified
Now that shit's done.
tucker carlson
That was so good.
Have you recorded that?
unidentified
No, I just made it up.
tucker carlson
That was amazing!
unidentified
Just made it up.
tucker carlson
When you got to gluten-free, then it was like, I wanted to start drinking it after 21 years.
unidentified
No, you're not having it.
I'm doing it for you.
tucker carlson
I'm not going to.
But that's incredible.
Have you guys ever done alcohol commercials before together?
kid rock
We never got paid for it.
unidentified
I just did one.
tucker carlson
I just did one.
unidentified
And I am getting paid for this one.
tucker carlson
And we're taping this, and by the way...
Will you send him that?
unidentified
Yes.
kid rock
Do you have a drinking problem?
Try Good Boy Vodka.
tucker carlson
Try daily drinks.
kid rock
It's his alcoholic drink.
unidentified
How long can you last?
Don't be a pussy.
Not too many people without drinking, though, have they?
kid rock
Nobody I've ever seen.
tucker carlson
How do you do that?
How do you hit 40 of those and stay standing?
unidentified
That's what I love about Good Boys.
There's no carbonation.
There's no bloatness.
It's unbelievable.
kid rock
You piss your brains out on these, which is a good thing.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a good thing.
Well, when you've got bladder cancer, you're going to pee a lot anyway.
tucker carlson
Does that increase your...
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I've been sitting here for 30 minutes and didn't even take a piss.
I might have pissed in my pants.
pants.
I don't even know it.
But it's not...
tucker carlson
I mean, the carbonation is the problem.
It's not the booze.
That does not affect you.
kid rock
Are you asking that with a straight face?
tucker carlson
I don't know.
kid rock
That was pretty good.
tucker carlson
I once drank 24 beers on a flight from Tokyo Narita.
That was my lifetime record.
And that was a lot for me.
unidentified
How many hours is that?
tucker carlson
It's like 12 hours.
unidentified
That's only two beers.
tucker carlson
Right, I know.
And I was kind of impressed by that.
unidentified
I drank that from Vegas back to Florida one time.
tucker carlson
That's impressive.
unidentified
The funniest was we're playing the...
kid rock
I drank that on a flight to Nashville to Memphis.
unidentified
There you go.
Phil Nicholson.
We're playing the Battle of the Bridges, right?
And it's that lighted golf tournament.
I think it was me and Phil playing Tiger and Hank Keeney, I think it was.
Anyway, or John...
No, it was Ratif Goosen.
Ratif lit it up, but we're getting done, right?
And it's about a 400...
Drive back to the clubhouse in the cart.
I had a six-pack of Melo Light back then ready.
I go, T.W., you want a beer?
I drank all six of them.
Gave him the bag that they were in.
I said, here, you want to throw those away?
He goes, you drink all those?
I said, well, I was thirsty.
tucker carlson
How do you do that?
unidentified
I don't know.
tucker carlson
Do you punch a hole in the bottom?
unidentified
No, I don't do that.
Yeah.
People can shoot a beer.
One time this...
Kid from Oklahoma, I'm doing a Boys and Girls Club tournament at my tournament at my golf course in Dardanelle.
And this Oklahoma guy says...
kid rock
And he had a shot, he had a beer shotgun contest between the kids.
That kid from Oklahoma was good, that 12-year-old.
unidentified
Yeah, he was pretty good.
No, this guy was like, I bet you 5,000 I could down a beer before you.
I said, I bet you 10,000 I could down two beers without using my hands before you get down with one.
So I had my bar and my girl, Katie, come over and say...
You ready, dude?
So it was two bottles of Miller Lite.
She stuck him down in my...
Right down there, I was done.
He didn't have half of his done yet.
tucker carlson
How do you do that?
unidentified
It's easy.
tucker carlson
You just got a straight pipe for a throat.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, now I got the lap band.
I can't chug him like I used to, but...
tucker carlson
Does that affect your drinking?
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, once it opens up during the day, then it goes full go.
Like right now, I could down this in no time.
kid rock
No, he couldn't.
unidentified
He's that guy.
kid rock
I bet you can't.
He's like, I can too.
I bet you can't hit that golf ball at my neighbor's house, hit his house, and then do a belly flop in the pool.
He's like, I can too!
Did it.
tucker carlson
Did you really?
You hit the house with a golf ball?
kid rock
Well, he doesn't like his neighbor.
unidentified
I don't think you liked your neighbor much.
I don't think he liked you.
kid rock
No, he was pissing me off the time.
Sparks flying off the brick pavers by the pool.
unidentified
He's like, No, I said, look, I'll hit some balls.
You want me to hit some balls?
You had a bunch of people.
What's our boy that played hockey, your cousin?
Awesome guy.
kid rock
Chelios?
unidentified
Chelios was there.
And I said, okay, I'll do it as long as you play some music and play in the Pro-Am with me.
He thought about it, thought about it.
He goes, all right.
So I run to my phone.
I said, all right, tour, get ready.
Kid Rock's going to play in the Pro-Am with me.
Put it down.
kid rock
It was worth it.
unidentified
It was.
I got him hooked on golf.
kid rock
Yeah.
unidentified
How did you learn?
The two hardest people that I got hooked on golf was him and Jamie Johnson.
kid rock
Yeah, we both love it now.
tucker carlson
Jamie Johnson, the singer?
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Is he a good guy?
unidentified
Oh, the greatest guy.
Sweetheart.
Greatest guy.
tucker carlson
God, he's talented.
kid rock
Oh, he's so talented.
tucker carlson
Yes, yes.
kid rock
He's so talented.
unidentified
He's awesome.
kid rock
One of our favorite people.
unidentified
He's coming from Miami, Oklahoma, going back to Nashville.
He calls me and says, Hey, man, I'm coming to see you.
This is my house right off 40. I go, what are you doing?
He goes, yeah, I'm going to come play some golf.
I go, what?
No way, you don't play golf.
He goes, yeah, I need a lesson.
I go, oh, here we go.
We sat on the driving range for four hours and sat in the smoking room, had a few drinks, and off he went.
He goes, thank you, bud.
Love you.
I'll see you at your tournament.
He has not missed one of my charity events.
tucker carlson
Did he get good?
unidentified
He still struggles because Jamie's a Marine.
He'd tax everything.
kid rock
But he'd commit himself to something.
unidentified
He got his pilot's license.
kid rock
He's a smart individual.
unidentified
Oh, brilliant.
kid rock
Very smart.
When he sets his mind to something, he's going to do it.
unidentified
You want him talking about planes?
Let me tell you something.
He knows planes.
kid rock
He's like, hey, Rock, when are you going to let me take that bird for a spin?
I'm like...
This isn't like, you know, a new doom buggy.
It's not a 172. I don't know if you can go take it for a spin, per se.
tucker carlson
No, it's a big plane.
unidentified
He's a sweetheart.
tucker carlson
But how do you learn golf, like, in your midlife?
kid rock
You learn how to pick up.
unidentified
It's not anything, I mean.
kid rock
Like, I golf with him and all these pros, you know, I'm in Jupiter, Florida, Dustin, and all those guys, you know, great friends.
And I just learn, like, you know, you hit a bad shot or don't hold the group up.
Just pick it up.
Go to the next hole, try to hit.
Again, hit some shots.
It's really a great way I've found, like, what I love about it is to spend time uninterrupted in an outdoor setting with friends.
Kind of like hunting.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
kid rock
Or something like that.
You know, I could take buddies, you know, went to grade school with or whatever.
We'll go have a big time in a course.
unidentified
It's my favorite.
kid rock
Have some drinks.
Always beautiful.
I love very manicured stuff and things like that.
I'm a very organized person, as you said you were.
Just to spend that time with friends uninterrupted.
tucker carlson
But you don't get mad at yourself or embarrassed when you...
kid rock
No, I know what I'm good at.
unidentified
It ain't golf.
The only club I know he's ever thrown was at Steve Smith at Jamie's Tournament.
kid rock
I bet him $100.
unidentified
He literally threw it.
kid rock
No, I duffed my shot.
unidentified
No, this is on the tee box.
kid rock
I know, remember?
I duffed my shot and Steve's like, you suck, blah, blah, blah, my partner.
And I'm like, I was like, I'll bet you $100 you can't hit it past mine.
That probably went 20 yards.
So he gets his back swing.
I take my driver and I throw it.
And he smacks my driver and his ball went 10 feet.
I'm like, pay me, motherfucker.
unidentified
And then it turned into a shit show because I ran over clubs.
kid rock
Somebody put sand in somebody's bag.
unidentified
I don't know who that was.
kid rock
Somebody filled up somebody's bag with sand, then you ran over somebody's bag.
It was shenanigans.
I was like, this isn't golf.
tucker carlson
Where was this?
unidentified
Jamie Johnson's in Mobile.
kid rock
No, Montgomery.
unidentified
Montgomery, his golf course.
He bought a golf course, too, after that.
tucker carlson
Really?
unidentified
He sold it now.
tucker carlson
What is a golf course?
What does that cost?
unidentified
It's brutal.
tucker carlson
What do you mean?
kid rock
It's probably different.
It's probably different pricing in Montgomery, Alabama than it is in like Long Island, New York.
unidentified
My green fees are 40 bucks a round.
tucker carlson
But if you wanted to buy a golf course in Arkansas, what would it cost you?
unidentified
Well, it depends on which one it is.
But mine, I got, you know, kind of really nothing in a way.
I mean, it was...
The club was struggling, and I said, I'll take it over.
And we built the back nine in 94, 95. He's got a freaking golf course in Australia.
kid rock
I'm over touring in Australia.
He's like, oh, hey, Bob, go to my golf course.
I'm like, I didn't have a fucking golf course in Australia.
unidentified
Well, that's my Lloyd Williams.
That was his golf course.
kid rock
Yeah, well, it was your buddy's.
But, like, you walk in there, you think it's his because his shit's everywhere, and it's private.
There's nobody on it.
unidentified
Lloyd Williams.
kid rock
Beautiful golf course.
I met him in Australia.
I golfed with Shane Warren.
unidentified
Oh, God.
kid rock
He was a good dude.
He was the best cricket player.
I didn't know nothing about cricket.
I can't remember.
You hooked me up with yourself.
tucker carlson
You didn't grow up with cricket?
kid rock
No.
unidentified
I still don't understand the game.
But Shane was unbelievable.
He was like the superstar of Australia.
kid rock
What a great guy, man.
unidentified
Great guy.
Married Elizabeth Ward.
That gorgeous thing.
kid rock
Elizabeth Hurley.
unidentified
Hurley, sorry.
Elizabeth Hurley.
kid rock
Elizabeth Ward.
unidentified
I don't know.
Elizabeth Hurley.
tucker carlson
It's a girl from Darnell.
kid rock
Did she own Montgomery Ward?
unidentified
But she's beautiful.
I got paired with him in the Dunhill one year.
But anyway, he started one day cricket.
kid rock
He was like the baddest cricket player.
Cool, dude.
unidentified
The baddest cricket player that ever lived.
He's one of the best.
He's one of the best.
kid rock
God bless his soul.
Thanks for putting me with him.
unidentified
Had a heart attack.
tucker carlson
At what age?
kid rock
Young.
unidentified
I don't even think he was 50 yet, was he?
kid rock
When did he have a heart attack?
unidentified
Just a couple years ago.
tucker carlson
A lot of heart attacks recently.
unidentified
See, I believe if you keep doing the same thing...
tucker carlson
Oh, come on now!
You're the last person I would expect to take an anti-science position like that.
kid rock
I had to take that stupid vaccine.
tucker carlson
I'm just kidding!
kid rock
I didn't have to, but it was like, they had me roped in, like, because my dad had cancer.
unidentified
I took the Johnson& Johnson just so I could travel.
kid rock
I'm like, I want to be around my dad.
So I believed all this fucking horse shit.
But I also came up to the conclusion, I'm like, man, the shit I put in my body the last 25 years, that thing ain't going to affect me.
unidentified
That's exactly what I said, right?
That's exactly what I said.
And I'll do it.
Well, I had to.
kid rock
But I was adamant about my children, my grandchildren.
I'm like, don't touch it.
tucker carlson
No.
That's exactly right.
A friend of mine was trying to visit his brother in the hospital with cancer.
They wouldn't let him in.
He took it and got heart attack.
kid rock
Yeah, terrible.
You've heard that story too many times.
tucker carlson
That's a real, that actually happened.
unidentified
Was it 2012, 2013?
I read up more people died of the flu that year than COVID people.
Yeah.
Did you know anyone who died of COVID? Oh yeah, Joe Diffie.
kid rock
Yeah.
unidentified
That's what they say.
Did people really die of COVID? I don't know.
tucker carlson
I never knew anyone who did.
I know someone who died of the vax.
kid rock
A lot of people were overweight.
I knew people who died.
My buddy's dad.
unidentified
But the thing was, hospitals would get money if you put on their...
Saying they died of COVID. We're going to get killed for all this.
kid rock
Now we're like the conspiracy guys.
unidentified
No, no, I'm just saying.
It was a fact, right?
tucker carlson
I didn't know anyone.
This is not a scientific study.
I'm just saying.
unidentified
I never met one person who died of COVID. It was a fact that if you, I heard if you put them down as COVID, the hospitals would get money.
kid rock
They got like $170,000.
tucker carlson
No, but just because you died in a motorcycle accident doesn't mean you didn't die of COVID. Everybody was saying if you died in a motorcycle accident, you had COVID. 100% you did.
kid rock
There are some shenanigans going on there.
Just like, can anybody prove the Alexa was stolen?
Apparently not, but just in my heart, like, there are some shenanigans going on.
I don't know what they were.
unidentified
Just because they stopped counting in the swing states overnight?
kid rock
And you woke up and Trump had lost?
tucker carlson
It was totally on the level.
Shut up.
Insurrectionist.
kid rock
I'm the erectionist.
unidentified
Hey, we're Republicans.
Hey, Tucker, we're Republicans.
We're racist and terrorist.
tucker carlson
Oh, 100%.
unidentified
I'm a Nazi, too, by the way.
kid rock
I'm a transphobic, homophobic, claustrophobic.
tucker carlson
You're not claustrophobic, are you?
kid rock
I have claustrophobia, actually.
unidentified
That was true.
The greatest thing, that show you did with Whoopi Goldberg, what was that show called?
And that lady, you were on there and you called her up.
kid rock
I did that on Fox News.
unidentified
No, no, no.
It wasn't Fox News.
kid rock
Yes, it was.
unidentified
Because she called you a racist and you go, I got a black child, you.
Bitch.
Yeah, exactly.
kid rock
I don't think it went down like that.
I was in my honky-tony with my granddaughter.
I got canceled from a parade.
I did get canceled once from a parade, but I didn't because I got asked to do six other parades.
I promised my granddaughter she was excited to be in a parade.
That's why I was going to do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
So I'm like, we'll find a parade, honey.
We found one in the set and the other.
So effectively, it didn't cancel me because I was turning down parades at that point.
tucker carlson
But why'd they cancel you?
kid rock
Because I called Joy Behar a bitch.
tucker carlson
That's fair, though.
I mean, truth is a defense.
kid rock
Man, when you're in this world, when you're a public figure or whatever, it's okay to, like, call somebody out and, you know, get a little dirty.
tucker carlson
Joy Behar, I don't think there's a single person of $350 million in this country who would testify under oath that Joy Behar is not a bitch.
kid rock
No, I think she actually said I am a bitch.
tucker carlson
Of course she is.
She would say that.
That's exactly right.
unidentified
But you think if you're going to interview one of the most legendary rock stars that ever lived, you'd get some information on him.
tucker carlson
But also why should Joy Behar be exempt from criticism?
Like, she can call you a racist, but you can't point out the obvious truth that she's a bitch.
unidentified
Or you get canceled.
kid rock
No, I can.
I'm awesome at it.
tucker carlson
Well, I know you are.
unidentified
I love that.
kid rock
That's what I did.
tucker carlson
So she called you a racist?
kid rock
I don't know what she called me.
She said something about me going to the White House with Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent.
They're like, this was a disgrace or some shit, whatever she said.
And I'm just like, poor Steve Doocy.
He's like, I got my granddaughter in my arms.
I'm like, I don't mean to curse on your show or whatever.
I'm like, but...
She's a bitch.
And then, you know, Steve's all paranoid.
He's like, and I love Steve.
He's my neighbor in Florida.
tucker carlson
Yeah, I know he is.
kid rock
And they're like, we come back from commercial.
He's like, you apologize for the language, don't you?
I'm like, I do apologize for that language, not for the sentiment.
tucker carlson
Well, exactly.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
tucker carlson
But also, if you can't point out the obvious, just right in your face truth that Joy Behar is a bitch.
Then you're not a free man.
You're a slave at that point.
kid rock
People love her, whatever.
tucker carlson
Yeah, it's really fine.
kid rock
If they call me out too, it's fine.
Like I said before in our earlier interview, I'm like, what happened to Sticks and Stones?
tucker carlson
I agree.
kid rock
Like, Jesus.
Everybody's such a fucking pussy.
tucker carlson
Do you get asked to do interviews anymore?
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
That's a good sign.
kid rock
Not by...
unidentified
I mean, I have turned out...
Look, this is a podcast, right?
tucker carlson
Yeah.
unidentified
I have turned out every podcast for the last three years.
tucker carlson
Really?
unidentified
I told everybody I didn't do it.
But since I love you so much and this is with my best friend, I'm honored.
I'm going to do it.
But let me tell you something.
All you people out there, don't be asking me for podcasts because I ain't doing any more of them unless it's with you again.
kid rock
It's a tough one because everyone's got a fucking podcast.
tucker carlson
Everyone's got a podcast.
I agree with that.
unidentified
And God bless you.
tucker carlson
I didn't even know I had a podcast until today.
But I'm honored to have one.
kid rock
I wouldn't call this a podcast.
unidentified
Is it a podcast or no?
tucker carlson
I have the faintest idea.
unidentified
Okay, it's not a podcast.
Sorry, but I'm not doing podcasts anymore.
tucker carlson
Hey, Justin, is this a podcast?
unidentified
It's a videocast?
tucker carlson
It's a videocast.
kid rock
This is a John and Bobcast.
unidentified
Hanging out with John, Bob, and Tucker.
Exactly.
We should do our own show.
Hell, we could make a lot of money.
I love that.
tucker carlson
Can we sponsor it with Good Boy?
unidentified
Oh, we're in.
Joe Bonanno, shit, you know, he's in.
Cigars, you know, my John Day cigars.
He's got sponsors.
We can get this done.
tucker carlson
And those are really made by the Bonannos?
unidentified
Dominican, yeah.
kid rock
I have no sponsors.
I won't get in bed with corporate entities because that's how you get canceled.
unidentified
No, but here, my deal is...
kid rock
You've got to be in bed with a corporate entity for people to get pissed at them and they can cancel you.
I'm like, yeah, I don't have any.
tucker carlson
You have no sponsors?
kid rock
No, not personally.
unidentified
You don't need any.
kid rock
I've had some great ones.
tucker carlson
I could never get one.
kid rock
I've had some great ones.
unidentified
These are business deals for me.
I mean, this cigar, how good is that cigar?
He even likes my cigar.
tucker carlson
It's incredible.
unidentified
To get him to like a cigar or a drink that I have is pretty, because he's a picky son of a bitch.
kid rock
I like free shit.
unidentified
Well, I always give you free shit.
tucker carlson
You like free shit?
unidentified
Well, yeah.
Of course he is.
Why are you so rich?
You're the tightest best friend I've ever known.
Hey, let's go out to dinner.
Okay, kid, I'll go out to dinner with you.
Hey, you get the bill.
kid rock
No bullshit.
I always pay the bill.
unidentified
We always pay.
We're always back and forth.
kid rock
We always pay for everyone.
I'll give you that.
unidentified
Yeah, we do.
It's because we love people.
tucker carlson
Do you eat at your house?
kid rock
Yeah.
That's one of my favorite things to do is have people for dinner.
tucker carlson
I mean, you could have big dinners at that house.
kid rock
No.
Eight.
unidentified
Really?
kid rock
Dining rooms.
That's one of my...
Dining rooms upstairs.
The floor spins.
Overlooks the city and it seats eight, so six guests.
Because you can actually spend time with people, enjoy their conversation.
tucker carlson
I agree with that.
kid rock
You know, having a huge dinner is like, it's tough, you know, to converse with everybody and, you know, just catch up on things.
I don't like to catch up with people like this.
tucker carlson
I agree with you.
kid rock
I'm like, save it.
No, I don't need your Facebook, you know, your FaceTweet status and like everything you did like in the last, whatever, like, when I see you, we'll talk about everything.
Wouldn't that be great?
tucker carlson
Yes, I love that.
unidentified
I love memories that don't show up.
kid rock
Yeah.
tucker carlson
Do you actually have to remember?
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
I like turtles.
tucker carlson
You like what?
kid rock
That's an old fucking, some internet shit somebody sent me years ago.
Some kid saying he likes turtles.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
No, but a memory's in your brain.
Now it's on the phone.
Social media, it's everything.
It's not really a memory.
tucker carlson
Well, it also distorts it completely.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
Yeah, so I look at you like you're bucking the system.
I love it.
You know, the thing with Fox went down.
They obviously sacrificed you as a fucking lamb.
And then you're like, you pop up doing this shit.
I'm like, I can get down with that.
unidentified
I like that.
kid rock
Because you still have a voice.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
kid rock
You're still getting fucking paid.
I'm like, I get down with that.
unidentified
He's like a football coach.
He kind of gets fired, but he still gets paid.
Where in the hell?
I mean, that's unbelievable.
tucker carlson
Nick Saban of Cable News.
No, I mean, I did it for too long.
unidentified
Hey, no disrespect to Jimbo Fisher.
I love him to death.
A&M coach.
76 million?
He's getting paid and he got fired?
I mean...
tucker carlson
That's a lot.
That's a lot of money.
unidentified
That's a lot.
kid rock
That's a lot of corporate heads, too.
Like, you know, they fuck up and do shit.
They still get their money.
Meanwhile, working class people are like, um...
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
Hey, we didn't have fucking stock options and shit and all this stuff.
Like, I don't know.
tucker carlson
And there's nothing people can do.
kid rock
I could sit here and bitch about it.
tucker carlson
No, I agree, but it's, yeah.
I think it's gotten too expensive for people to live here, I've noticed.
I don't go to the grocery store, ever.
unidentified
Well, that's why all the illegal immigrants...
But I hear about it.
That's why the illegal immigrants from Chicago and New York...
I think I'm going to go back home.
tucker carlson
Yeah, Salvador's gotten really nice.
Have you been there?
unidentified
Where?
tucker carlson
El Salvador.
unidentified
Is it?
No.
tucker carlson
El Salvador is one of the worst countries in the world.
Like the most dangerous country in the world.
unidentified
Come in our country free.
tucker carlson
It's tiny.
It's crowded.
Now El Salvador is like a great country.
kid rock
We want good Mexicans.
They're awesome.
unidentified
Fucking love them.
kid rock
They work their ass off.
They're Christians.
They're fucking awesome.
I just built a house, man.
Fucking great.
This, that, and the other.
We need to kind of see everybody that's coming in at some level.
tucker carlson
It should be up to Americans how many people they want to let in their country.
You don't want to live in a crowded country.
That's the other thing.
People don't.
They think it's just like endless space, but actually, you can get too crowded.
kid rock
Well, it's not endless space for people to come in and implement the ideas that have taken their cities, their countries, made them bad.
This is going on in Nashville.
They're fucking up Austin, Texas right now.
unidentified
Oh, Austin's unbelievable.
kid rock
You get all these California, Chicago, New York City people.
Don't like this way of life.
They want to get away from this stuff.
And then they come in like, I got these bumper stickers made that said, don't turn Nashville into the shithole city you moved here from.
unidentified
Austin's bad.
I mean, Austin, 6th Street was so good.
kid rock
Because they come with these things.
tucker carlson
6th Street was the coolest.
unidentified
It was one of the greatest streets to go on, and now I'm scared to go on.
tucker carlson
You can't.
I mean, the Driscoll Hotel was one of the coolest hotels in the United States.
kid rock
Fucking New Orleans.
tucker carlson
I've got a daughter who lives in...
In Austin and I said, I was visiting the other day, I was like, I'm gonna stay at the dress school.
Oh, you can't go down there.
It's like, it's dangerous.
unidentified
Hey, can we have a piss break?
tucker carlson
Yeah, I gotta go too.
Do you think, you said that it was bladder cancer, but could it be, these are related to pissing too, right?
unidentified
It don't matter.
kid rock
Those make you piss your brains out.
unidentified
I could go through a day and not drink anything and still piss 50 times.
Is there a bathroom in here?
tucker carlson
I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, it's a little curtain.
tucker carlson
I'm going to go outside.
kid rock
Let's talk shit about John while he's gone.
unidentified
What are y'all doing?
Oh.
I tuned it down to G. You're going to be fucked up.
kid rock
It's not what you think it is.
unidentified
It's all bar chords in G. Oh, really?
Yeah.
So, look.
kid rock
You know G, right?
unidentified
I know G, but I don't know how to tune it.
Yeah, but I'm not a barcourt guy, man.
Hey Anna, did you find my phone?
Yeah.
Why don't you tune it to just like a...
Just original, like easy.
For...
For guys that don't know how to play like me.
That amazes me how to do that.
tucker carlson
I agree.
unidentified
My best friend Jocko.
kid rock
I'm too drunk to tune it up.
tucker carlson
Which Jocko?
unidentified
He's a singer, one of my best friends.
kid rock
Anybody got any more of those things that rhyme with schmores, mate?
unidentified
See, I have to relate to this.
Technology.
This is awesome.
Oh, gee, I'm gonna eat Christmas.
kid rock
That top string's down to your tune-up, do you think so?
unidentified
Woo!
Oh, they're all that way, huh?
kid rock
No, only four of the strings.
unidentified
The D was good.
The D was good.
G's good.
kid rock
That's gotta go up to B.
unidentified
Oh, E.
Up.
E, up. *click* Technology.
tucker carlson
That's pretty cool.
unidentified
Guitar looks like a ukulele in your hand.
tucker carlson
Yeah, it does!
unidentified
Tucker Carlson, I want to thank you for a great day.
My friend Kid Rock made it this way.
Yeah, baby!
And I've admired y'all for so long since.
Can't wait to see y'all and me again.
Fuck the liberals.
Fuck communism.
I say this, doll.
Trump at 24, that's the way it needs to go.
Get him, Johnny!
Where's this country gone?
I miss it so much.
Got to get the big boy man to help us out.
Daddy Trump can do this.
I've done it before.
Pit rock for vice president.
I control the border.
It's called Crocodiles.
The most poisonous snakes in the rhinos.
Head south.
To Mexico.
Try crossing my border again, you son of a bitches.
tucker carlson
Outstanding!
I'd go to your show.
unidentified
I'd be standing in the front row, swooning.
Don't you think?
I told Daddy Trump, I'll take care of the border.
Don't need no border patrol.
tucker carlson
No.
unidentified
South Africa, the meanest crocodiles, about 100,000 of them.
All the most poisonous snakes?
The rhinos?
Put them in that river.
See who crosses that border.
tucker carlson
I agree with that.
unidentified
There you go.
tucker carlson
That's not hard.
unidentified
It's not hard.
It's common sense.
Right?
Sounds like a little canchy sheet, baby.
kid rock
I just want to hear you talk shit over this.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
Is that one of your favorite songs?
tucker carlson
Can't you see?
unidentified
Bobby, is that one of your favorites?
Same.
tucker carlson
There you go.
Throw the TV out the motel window.
kid rock
That's right.
Motel.
tucker carlson
I don't think they exist anymore.
Do you remember those?
kid rock
Yeah, they had to say color TV. Yeah, color TV. It had a neon say color TV. Yeah.
tucker carlson
It was a great country.
I miss it too.
I agree with that.
kid rock
God, I miss America.
Oh, yeah.
Miss America.
I'm just working on this song with John Eddy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
There we go.
kid rock
God, I miss America.
It's been a minute since you've been gone.
God bless Miss America.
You've been gone for too damn long.
tucker carlson
Damn, that's sad.
Gentlemen, let's go have dinner.
Thank you.
kid rock
John's buying.
He just said.
tucker carlson
No reading in my house.
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