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Your shirt's six sizes too small, Fasso.
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Just go f ⁇ yourself and the whole f ⁇ ing platform you're on.
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Oh, you don't like the platform.
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You're a joke to me, dude.
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You are still in the pizza review business.
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Yes.
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So I don't think anyone's ever cornered the market in pizza reviews, but I mean, you are the most powerful figure in American pizza sales.
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I would agree with that.
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I googled you.
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I was telling you this a minute before we went on.
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I never Googled you when I Googled you.
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And at least half the stories are, you know, pizza shop in, name the town, Osterville.
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Yeah.
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Thrilled that Dave Portnoy came and ate their pizza.
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We can change the fortune of a pizza place with this spectacular review.
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Couple questions.
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Are you sick of it?
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Never.
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Really?
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Love pizza.
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The biggest pain in the ass with pizza is just driving around to find the new ones.
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But no, I love pizza.
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How do you stay slim?
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It's a great question.
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First of all, I'm starting to put on weight.
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So that's changing a little bit.
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But I don't know.
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I think it was Adderall a little bit, Adderall diet.
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Adderall helps, doesn't it?
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Yeah.
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Kills the appetite.
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How many, when you're on Adderall, how many pieces of pizza can you eat?
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Just a couple bites.
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Yeah.
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It does kill the appetite.
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But when you're not on Adderall, I can house the whole thing, no problem.
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Yeah.
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What's your favorite kind of pizza?
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So I like New Haven like coal-fired.
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Like New Haven, Connecticut is, to me, the pizza capital, not only of the United States, of the world.
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Yes.
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But coal-fired.
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Charcoal, crispy.
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You want to hear the crunch.
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That's my favorite.
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Thick or thin crust.
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Thin.
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Toppings.
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Cheese.
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Come on.
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No, cheese.
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That's how it is.
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Well, I know.
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It's a gold medal slice.
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If I'm going off.
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If it's off pizza.
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Pizza, onions, mushrooms.
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Really?
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Yep.
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What about bacon and pineapple?
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Oof.
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This is interview.
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It may be older.
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What's this?
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That's your question.
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Yeah, bacon and pineapple.
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No.
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I think that's crazy.
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No, that's a big debate.
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Everyone asks that.
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Pineapple on a pizza.
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I mean, I won't judge, but I won't do it.
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Well, you're judging.
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Pizza.
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A little bit.
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I am judging pizza.
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I'm saying pineapple on a pizza.
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Bacon, fine.
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Pineapple milk.
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Okay.
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What about pepperoni?
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Yeah, that's the number one topping in the world.
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Better than sausage?
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I prefer pepperoni.
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Were you on calzones?
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Love calzones.
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Really?
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Not too much dough for you?
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Nope.
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Love it.
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I used to work in a pizza place, and by the end, I was there for two years.
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I was only on calzones.
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Calzones are great.
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Because you can't drop anything.
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Like, flies don't land on the, you know, the inside of the calzone.
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That's true.
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So 99%, and I've watched all your pizza.
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I've done a pizza review with you.
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People are thrilled that you come to their shop.
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Okay.
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But occasionally you get someone who's got something going on in his personal life or has a problem with you, and it doesn't go well.
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So we're going to put this up.
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This is outside Boston.
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What town is this?
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Somerville, Davis Square.
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Somerva.
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Somerville, Mass.
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Yep, Davis Square, Dragon Pizza.
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Okay.
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Let's see what happens.
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I don't know how long it was sitting there.
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It looked, I'm going to be honest, it looked better in the case.
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It looked more well done in the case than this one.
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So we'll see what we got.
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One bite everyone knows the rules.
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It is very thin.
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I do smell with Parmesan.
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See what we got.
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Oh, it's a floppy mess.
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Strong Parmesan.
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This is an acquired taste.
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Like, if you get this, know you're going to get hit with a left, right, in the face with Parmesan.
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I'm not the biggest Parm guy.
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How do you score that?
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Because if you like Parm, fine.
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If you don't, I don't.
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6-4.
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Yes.
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Enjoy your pizza as any customer, but I don't appreciate what you do coming in and judging a business with one bite.
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Well, we do more.
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Is this your spot?
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This is my spot.
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I hope you enjoy your pizza, but I don't appreciate what you do to small businesses.
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Well, I hope.
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The good news is I don't see it that way.
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Terrible school.
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Let me be a little clearer.
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Move on.
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Don't stand in front of my business.
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Let me be clear.
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Let me be clear.
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Get the f ⁇ out of my business.
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This ain't your business.
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Yeah, but this is my business and getting scared.
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He's right across the street.
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Go get him.
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What are you going to tattle me off?
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We're standing on the public street.
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Your shirt's six sizes too small, Fasco.
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Just go yourself and the whole platform you're on.
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Oh, you don't like the platform.
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You're a joke to me, dude.
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You know what?
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You're making this show and your game and go somewhere else.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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By the way, I've raised $50 million for small business.
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You're all talk, dude.
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Was that all talk?
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Yeah, kind of like that New York Times article.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
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Your shirt's six sizes too small.
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I don't care.
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I work.
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You're a fing joke.
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Oh, you work hard?
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Yeah, maybe.
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My man.
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That's so much.
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How?
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Tell me how.
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You're a clown.
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How?
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I run a business.
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I work hard.
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I sold my business twice.
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$100 million, $400 million, bought back for a buck.
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That's a clown.
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Everything since I got in this business that you represent is an embarrassment.
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Like what?
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Like raising 50 million for small business?
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Everything.
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Name it.
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Everything.
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You have to name one thing.
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You have to name one thing.
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I make pizza.
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It's great.
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It sucks.
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You're a fing joke.
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Name one thing.
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Name one thing, asshole.
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You've given up too.
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I've given up too much of my talk.
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All you've said is everything, everything.
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Name one thing.
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You're a fucking one thing.
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Clown.
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Wow.
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That'll be the most viral pizza review we've ever had.
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It just happened two weeks ago.
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We haven't published it.
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How's this?
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You.
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Yeah.
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Divine timing.
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And this is where sometimes I get myself maybe in trouble by being like, when you throw the first punch, I want to bury you.
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So I knew I was coming on this show.
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And I knew your crowd, like my crowd, would be like, fuck that guy.
► 00:05:47
So I was so excited for the timing because that guy went out of his way to pick a fight with me.
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And he knows nothing about me.
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Clearly, his one complaint, I'm bad for small business.
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Even my most ardent haters have never said, I'm bad for small business.
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It's the only thing they'll begrudgingly be like, well, he just did it because he wants like everyone to say good job or he has a big ego.
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But nobody's ever been like, you're bad for small business.
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That guy is what is wrong.
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And this may be over the top, but he's what's wrong with this country.
► 00:06:18
Like, fine, I don't care what your politics are, left, right.
► 00:06:21
Clearly, that guy is like hates Trump, hates everything.
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But why do you hate me?
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You don't know anything about me.
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You come up with a lot of people.
► 00:06:29
His wife hates him.
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Yeah, yelling, clearly.
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Yelling, yelling.
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I would sit down and have a conversation, but this is what we've become, honestly, in this country.
► 00:06:39
It's just you scream at each other for no reason.
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Like that guy just came out, had no business in anything except yelling, screaming.
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He's all over his Instagram page.
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He's been doing it since this happened.
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Be like, I told him I kicked him off the sidewalk.
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I kicked him off the street.
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He's calling for the cops.
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I guarantee you.
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Because you're eating pizza.
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And I guarantee you that guy wants to abolish the police about six months ago.
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I guarantee you he's like, we don't need police and all this.
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And then he's running like, I'm going to call the cops.
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By the way, the cop across the street, I said hello to.
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He's like, Brett is a big fan.
► 00:07:13
I was dying for him to go ask.
► 00:07:15
But that guy is truly what's wrong with everything in this country.
► 00:07:19
Do you think he took mask mandates seriously?
► 00:07:21
Oh, 100%.
► 00:07:24
100%.
► 00:07:25
And by the way, I love Star Wars.
► 00:07:27
So that shirt was just 10 sizes too small.
► 00:07:30
But he is everything that is so wrong.
► 00:07:34
And people just like, there's no matter what, he's going to hate everybody he perceives differently.
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Where does that happen to him?
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Almost never.
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That has never happened like that.
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But I mean, just in the course of your life, you're taking your girl to dinner.
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Rare.
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I had one girl during a pizza review who screamed at me.
► 00:07:51
She's like, she read all the articles.
► 00:07:53
By the way, I don't want to give my enemies a playbook.
► 00:07:56
We've talked about there's been a lot of mean things said about me.
► 00:07:59
Yeah, so when I ask, what do you hate about me?
► 00:08:01
You should have one thing that's actually legitimate as opposed to the New York Times small business.
► 00:08:06
It doesn't happen often.
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Most people in public are normal and nice.
► 00:08:11
They're like, hey, like you.
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And even if you don't like me, I'm fine with it.
► 00:08:14
But to attack, it's just, I hate that guy.
► 00:08:19
And how was the pizza?
► 00:08:21
Thankfully, I gave it one of my lowest scores I've given in a while.
► 00:08:24
But if you saw how I did it, even when I give a low score, I try to be nice about it.
► 00:08:29
It's like, maybe you don't like Parm.
► 00:08:30
Maybe this isn't your thing because I don't want to ruin any small business.
► 00:08:33
Now, I hope his business is ruined.
► 00:08:35
And that may be a mean thing to say because you should never root against somebody.
► 00:08:39
I truly hope he goes out of business.
► 00:08:41
Like, I'd be happy about that.
► 00:08:43
Again, maybe that's too far.
► 00:08:45
But when you come at me like that and you are right, he's drawing pictures of me being like, this guy's an asshole.
► 00:08:51
And I showed him and I gave him the business.
► 00:08:54
I hope not enough bad things can happen to that.
► 00:08:56
It's interesting, though.
► 00:08:57
Guys like that, and this kind of thing has happened to me, I'll be honest, in public over the years.
► 00:09:01
I've seen one.
► 00:09:02
Yeah, exactly.
► 00:09:03
But it's always when you leave that they're like, I showed him.
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Yeah, that's what he's doing.
► 00:09:07
You fussy little bitch.
► 00:09:08
You know, once you're gone, they're like bragging about it on social media.
► 00:09:12
And his recollection of the event, once people see the video, I'm curious even whether the people who are like defending him, because he does have his crowd being like, you showed him he's the worst.
► 00:09:22
I'm curious if they watch that video and are like, well, you were kind of an asshole to him.
► 00:09:27
He wasn't doing anything because I wasn't.
► 00:09:29
Did you pay for the pizza?
► 00:09:31
Of course.
► 00:09:31
So you were a customer.
► 00:09:33
I walked in.
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I was doing the review out in the street.
► 00:09:35
He kicked me off the sidewalk.
► 00:09:37
What are you talking about, buddy?
► 00:09:38
Like, and what are you talking about?
► 00:09:40
We're doing a pizza festival in Coney Island in September 23rd.
► 00:09:45
It's the greatest assembly of pizza ever.
► 00:09:49
This pizza's been under attack, you know, for a long, because it does, for most non-adderall users, does make you a little fat.
► 00:09:54
I've lived it.
► 00:09:55
You only live once, though.
► 00:09:57
Well, that's my rationale.
► 00:09:58
But you are one of this country's most energetic and best recognized pizza defenders, advocates.
► 00:10:04
You think the whole pizza industry would be carrying you aloft and then ticket tip, ticker tape for it.
► 00:10:08
That is how we're able to do the pizza fest.
► 00:10:10
All these great pizzerias who would never do this.
► 00:10:13
They're like, you know what?
► 00:10:14
For what Dave's done for the pizza industry, we're going to come support him, except this one clown who doesn't deserve the same air to breathe that I do.
► 00:10:22
What a jerk.
► 00:10:23
Why not try to get along?
► 00:10:25
Even if you have that big of an issue with me, come up and talk about it.
► 00:10:29
Like maybe you won't have the issues when we're done.
► 00:10:32
Instead of just coming out screaming and being a can I just say one thing I noticed, this makes me sad.
► 00:10:36
I probably shouldn't even say it, but that's one of the only pizza owners I've met, including the one I worked for, who was American-born.
► 00:10:44
Every pizza guy I've ever met is like some immigrant who loves America.
► 00:10:47
Yep.
► 00:10:48
You know what I mean?
► 00:10:49
It's just like working like an animal and has the same values that I admire.
► 00:10:53
That guy was like from Newton Mass or something.
► 00:10:57
I still don't know what he was that mad about because I asked him 10 times what your problem is with me.
► 00:11:02
He just kept saying everything, everything, everything.
► 00:11:04
How can you hate somebody that much that you don't have an example of why you hate him?
► 00:11:11
Like he's pretty riled up.
► 00:11:13
It was like he was waiting for this moment.
► 00:11:15
And I asked again, well, what do you hate?
► 00:11:17
Give me an example.
► 00:11:18
You're a joke.
► 00:11:19
You're a clown.
► 00:11:20
You hate small business.
► 00:11:21
Well, I raised $50 million for small business.
► 00:11:23
You're still a clown.
► 00:11:24
Like, all right.
► 00:11:25
Well, you're the clown.
► 00:11:29
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