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Nov. 3, 2023 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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Tucker Asks Trump: What Really Happened To Epstein?

Former President Donald Trump sits down with Tucker Carlson to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and the curious details surrounding his untimely end, the lack of a proper investigation into what actually happened, and the weaponized justice system’s crusade to destroy Trump. Follow Tucker on X for the latest videos: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson Text “TUCKER” to 44055 for exclusive updates #DonaldTrump #JeffreyEpstein #BillBarr #Conspiracy #BillClinton #billgates #tucker #tuckercarlson #fbi

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tucker carlson
Your attorney general clearly lied about the Epstein death.
donald j trump
Yeah, he was.
unidentified
Why?
donald j trump
He was, certainly it wasn't well done.
They had no cameras.
They had no anything.
Everybody was sleeping.
And, you know, a case could be made.
Look, I'm not going to get involved in it.
But I can tell you, a case could be made either way.
But guys like Bill Barr were terrible.
I mean, they were, I would say, bushies.
I say that with respect to the Bush family, but they were bushies and just it doesn't work out for us.
tucker carlson
It was clear, and this is kind of far afield, but it was just interesting.
I read Barr's account of his time.
He wrote a book about it.
Right.
His autobiography.
And in it, he lies about Jeffrey Epstein's death.
Clearly lies.
Do you think Epstein killed himself sincerely?
donald j trump
I don't know.
I will say that, you know, he was a fixture in Palm Beach.
Yeah.
I don't know what Barr said about it either.
I have no idea what he said.
What did he say?
He killed himself, probably.
tucker carlson
He said he killed himself and that they were going to do this investigation.
They never did the investigation.
It's never been public.
And they hid it.
And like, why are they doing that?
And clearly Barr knew.
But why would Bill Barr be covering up the death of Jeffrey Epstein?
donald j trump
Barr became so petrified, so frightened of being impeached.
Who are going to impeach him?
I don't know if you remember it.
It's not a big moment in history.
But they said, we're going to impeach.
You know, they play a much rougher game, the left, the lunatics.
And they were going to impeach Bill Barr, and he was petrified.
Now, how do you not get impeached?
Don't do any of this stuff.
But he didn't do the job there.
I don't know what he did with Epstein, but possibly he did.
tucker carlson
Do you think it's possible that Epstein was killed?
donald j trump
Oh, sure.
It's possible.
I mean, I don't really believe.
I think he probably committed suicide.
He had a life with, you know, beautiful homes and beautiful everything.
And all of a sudden, he's incarcerated and not doing very well.
I would say that he did.
But there are those people, there are many people.
I think you're one of them, right?
But a lot of people think that he was killed.
He knew a lot on a lot of people.
tucker carlson
He was killed.
I think the closer you, look, I'm not a conspiracy person at all.
I believe everything I hear.
But yeah, the closer you look into it, I mean, the Attorney General of the United States, your Attorney General clearly lied about the Epstein death.
donald j trump
Yeah, he was.
unidentified
Why?
donald j trump
He was, certainly it wasn't well done.
They had no cameras.
They had no anything.
Everybody was sleeping.
And, you know, a case could be made.
Look, I'm not going to get involved in it.
But I can tell you, a case could be made either way.
But it certainly wasn't the most well-run place.
tucker carlson
So the reason I'm asking you is I'm looking at the trajectory since 2015 when you got into politics, you know, for real, and then one.
It started with protests against you, massive protests, organized protests by the left, and then it moved to impeachment twice.
donald j trump
Right.
tucker carlson
And now indictment.
I mean, the next stage is violence.
Are you worried that they're going to try and kill you?
Why wouldn't they try and kill you, honestly?
donald j trump
They're savage animals.
They are people that are sick, really sick.
You have great people in the Democrat Party.
You have great people that are Democrats.
Most of the people in our country are fantastic, and I'm representing everybody.
I'm not just Republicans or Conservatives.
I represent everybody.
I'm the president of everybody.
But I've seen what they do.
I've seen the lengths that they go to.
When they make up the Russia, Russia, Russia, when that's exposed and they go down and Barr should have gone after them and other people should have gone after them.
And they did very late because the Durham report came out.
It was fairly good.
It could have been a lot tougher, I guess, but it was fairly good.
But it explained how corrupt it was.
I'll tell you who did a great job was the Inspector General Horowitz.
He did a phenomenal report.
You didn't have to go to Durham.
He did it on Comey and on, I guess, McCabe and some others.
And it was a vicious, it was basically a true report, how bad they are.
But these people are sick people.
These are people that I think they hate our country.
You want to know the truth.
When you see open borders, when you see these policies that they have, and so many other things, it's so sad to see.
You know, we have a country that's very fragile right now.
I've never seen, I will say, look, I ran in 16, which was 15, but I ran in 16, election in 2016, and there was tremendous spirit.
In 20, there was even more spirit.
We got many millions of, we got millions and millions more votes.
You know, it wasn't even a contest.
People said, well, what'd you think of 20?
I said, we did much better.
We did.
You got to base it on the number of votes.
We got many more votes in 20 than we did in 16.
Even coming down here, just the people on the road that are just absolutely going crazy.
And the reason is, I think they like me, and I know they love my policies.
I hope they like me too.
You know, a lot of people say they don't like me, but they like my policy.
I think they like me.
But I have never seen spirit like it is right now.
And the reason is because crooked Joe Biden is so bad.
He's the worst president in the history of our country.
I don't think he's going to make it to the gate, but you never know.
But he's a corrupt person, so corrupt that I took the name off Hillary.
You know, I don't do two people at one time.
I took the crooked Hillary and I made it.
I retired the net.
It was a good day for her.
I bet she was very happy.
And I used it for Joe because it's Crooked Joe.
But Joe is really...
tucker carlson
But you don't think he's going to make it to November of 2015?
donald j trump
Well, I think he's worse mentally than he is physically, and physically, he's not exactly a triathlete.
tucker carlson
So do you have a preference in, assuming you're the Republican nominee and all goes as you plan it to go, do you have a preference in who you run against?
donald j trump
In many ways, I'd love to run against him because his record's so bad.
You know, it's still horrible when you look at inflation and everything else.
But others also have very bad records.
I mean, California's a bad record.
So, you know, should it be Gavin or should it be somebody else?
When I look at San Francisco, what's happened to that incredible city?
That was one of the greatest cities in the world just a short while ago.
And now it's very sad when you look at it, Los Angeles.
Every city, practically, all the Democrat-run cities, you know, Republican-run cities are doing very nicely because they arrest people when you have crimes.
And they don't go after political candidates because they think it's good.
You know, I mean, it's like been amazing.
My poll numbers are the highest I've ever had.
But because people understand it.
tucker carlson
Can I ask you, that gets back to my original question.
So if the protest didn't work, you got elected anyway.
Impeachment didn't work twice, obviously.
Indictment is not working.
Your poll numbers go up.
When they rated Mar-a-Lago in August of last year, your numbers went up.
They can indict you 20 times, and you're not going to lose the Republican primary because of that.
donald j trump
Well, it makes it look even more ridiculous.
I mean, the four indictments, and maybe there'll be more.
I don't know.
These people are crazy.
tucker carlson
But they're counterproductive.
So if you chart it out, it's an escalation, is what I'm saying.
So what's next?
After, you know, trying to put you in prison for the rest of your life, that's not working.
So, like, don't they have to kill you now?
donald j trump
I think the people of our country don't get enough credit for how smart they are.
And I'm not sure I would have said this 10 years ago.
But they get it.
They really get it.
When somebody gets indicted, your poll numbers go down.
When somebody gets indicted, you announce, ladies and gentlemen, I'll be leaving to spend time with my family and to fight for the rest of my life on this stuff.
But you're out of politics.
I got indicted four times.
All trivia, nonsense, bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
It's horrible when you look and you look at what they're doing.
The boxes hoax.
I'm covered by the Presidential Records Act.
I'm allowed to do exactly that.
He's not covered, and he's got 25 times the number of boxes.
And he's got them stored in Chinatown.
He's got him stored in a flimsy garage underneath his Corvette at Penn.
And by the way, at Penn he gets millions of dollars.
China pays this guy millions of dollars.
See, I think he's the most corrupt president we've ever had.
And he also has the distinction of being the most incompetent.
And I believe both.
I mean, he's both incompetent and corrupt.
So I actually believe he's compromised because China knows so much about him.
They know where the money comes from.
They know where it is, who paid it.
And they probably paid it.
Well, they do pay Penn, and he gets a million dollars.
I think he takes $999,000 because he keeps it a little bit under a million, like by a dollar.
But he, in many ways, is a Manchurian candidate.
We have a Manchurian candidate, and he's afraid to tell Russia to get out of Cuba.
He's afraid to tell China to get out of Cuba.
He's afraid.
China now is building.
Think of this.
China's building military installations in Cuba.
The Cuban population of Miami is not too happy because they're never going to be able to go back.
And you don't even hear about it.
And the worst culprit is the press, the media, because normally, you know, when I first heard that, that China is building installations in Cuba.
And installations means military installations, okay.
You know, they said, just some communication.
They did that on the islands with Japan.
They took the island, they started this massive construction, and they told everybody, including the Japanese.
The Japanese have to be very careful.
They told everybody that this is a housing development.
They're going to build a housing development.
And I said, how come the runway is 20,000 feet long?
You know, private jets need 4,000 feet.
They don't need 20,000 feet.
The big ones need 20,000 feet.
They don't even need 20.
And I looked at the runway.
I said, that's the largest runway ever built, both in width and length, for housing development.
There's nobody that has a plane that big.
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