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July 24, 2023 - The Tucker Carlson Show
05:22
The Andrew Tate Interview: Ukraine

Part of Tucker Carlson’s exclusive and in-person interview with Andrew Tate in Romania. Watch the full interview on Twitter.

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andrew tate
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tucker carlson
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tucker carlson
Why do you think support for the war in Ukraine, support for Ukraine's side in the war against Russia, support for a war against Russia in the West, is kind of the bottom line issue for the people who run the U.S. government and for the American media.
Why, I mean, I guess you could argue about it, but there isn't an argument about it in the United States.
There's a position and anyone who doesn't hold it is attacked and punished.
andrew tate
Why?
tucker carlson
Why is that so important?
andrew tate
Well, the first thing I think we should all do is I think we should all give Putin credit for curing COVID, right?
Because when his invasion happened, COVID went away.
tucker carlson
I thought about that.
unidentified
Think about it.
andrew tate
It's almost to the day.
So we have to give him some credit at least for doing that.
He may be the bad guy of the world, but at least he cured COVID for everybody nearly instantly.
Fair.
Thank you, thank you, President Putin.
Yeah.
I, up until this point, never really commented too heavily on politics.
unidentified
Yes.
andrew tate
But I understand very well, I like to believe what's happening with Ukraine and Russia.
And what I will say to the people who are watching this at home is that if you are naive enough to believe that there are good guys and bad guys in wars, and it's as simple as good and bad, and that the bad guys are crazy and the good guys want freedom, then you need to do a little bit more investigation into what's really happening.
And when you look at the vested interest of any country or any person...
tucker carlson
Can I just ask you to pause and just comment?
That's the truest thing, what you just said.
And anyone who doesn't understand that should shut the fuck up.
And I mean, having seen war, anyone who's telling you that it's Churchill versus Hitler is an idiot.
unidentified
Completely.
andrew tate
Well, I'll give you an example.
When my father was still alive.
Sorry, excuse me.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's true.
When my father was still alive, my father died six or seven years ago.
I was a lot younger.
The war in Afghanistan was going on.
tucker carlson
He died six or seven years ago.
How old was he?
andrew tate
56.
unidentified
Oh, gosh.
andrew tate
Yes, he died.
But the war in Afghanistan was going on.
And I remember asking my dad saying, why do the Taliban even fight and resist the American war machine?
They don't stand a chance.
Like, why are these terrorists even fighting against the American war machine?
And my dad said, they're fighting for their way of life.
They want their wife and they want their children and they want their society and their language and they don't want pride flags and they don't want American bullshit and they don't want to be told what to do.
And they're fighting to be a culture and be a people, which is independent in and of itself.
Like they're not the bad guys you think they are.
They're people who are like, why are you here?
What do you want?
We don't agree with that.
That's against our holy book.
Fuck off.
Right?
So even there's no such thing as good and bad in any war.
tucker carlson
Who is your father?
andrew tate
My father was a chess master.
He worked for the CIA when he was a linguist for the CIA.
And then he was American.
He was discharged for a story I won't tell.
But he was a chess master.
And he, it's very interesting.
I encourage people to look at his Twitter.
He still has Twitter at Tate Terrific.
And everything he was talking about 11 years ago is so important now.
11 years ago, no one cared about, we had the Don Bass in 2014.
People cared a bit.
But he was literally, he predicted the future.
You want to see how chess players can see the future?
Read his Twitter.
Everything from LGBTQ, why they need your kids because they can't have their own, to the war that's coming and how Europe's going to have an energy crisis, to the letter.
It's all on his Twitter.
It's amazing to read.
It's like you could tell the future.
10 years ago, no one talked about any of this stuff.
tucker carlson
Did he live in the U.S.?
unidentified
Yes.
andrew tate
Yeah, he lived in America.
unidentified
Fascinating.
andrew tate
Yeah, it's crazy.
But he was telling me about a lot of this stuff, even when I was a lot younger.
And as we said, there's no good guys and bad guys.
But when you have a vested interest in something, I think that people are relatively simple.
You're talking about why the American government has such a vested interest in this war.
tucker carlson
Which is not good for America.
andrew tate
Not good for America.
So, is it, well, we can say it's for money or we can say it's for power.
What else would it be for?
What is it really for freedom and democracy?
Well, I think that's already been destroyed by Zelensky, hasn't it?
So, what is it for if it's not for money and power?
And then you say, Well, who's the money and the power going to?
These are logical conversations.
It's a very logical thought process.
tucker carlson
I agree.
andrew tate
You know, wouldn't it be interesting to say, Okay, I woke up, I'm an American.
I would never kill myself.
I woke up, I'm an American.
Why does America care?
Well, I guess it's for money or power.
There's no other reason.
Okay, well, America wants to be a rich, powerful country.
That's fine.
Is the money and power going to America or is it going to a select few individuals?
Are those select individuals interested in me and my life?
Do they care about benefiting me?
Do I need to support the power grab of these select few individuals?
Is that going to be a smart move for me to make for me to have the best possible human experience?
These are a very logical thought process.
People don't seem to think anymore.
They believe that there's a good guy and there's a bad guy, and one guy's one team's completely good, and one team's completely bad.
One team's crazy.
They often use the word crazy because to be completely bad, you have to be crazy, right?
So, you're crazy, he's crazy, just for no reason.
Reasonless.
tucker carlson
Younger people say the news is full of wine.
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