True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 504: Farwell to All That
Aired: 2025-11-20
Duration: 01:29:18


=== Vibrations Of Matter And Energy (14:33) ===

[00:00:00]  Everything in nature and in creation is a vibration.
[00:00:06]  It's a form of a vibration.
[00:00:09]  The gross, real subtle, heavy vibrations form matter.
[00:00:12]  And the lighter vibrations form energy.
[00:00:15]  Science can demonstrate this to us today.
[00:00:18]  Now, what happens is we turn our attention towards, or that energy thing within ourselves, matter. where we look through our eyes and we listen with our ears and we put our wishes and wants and attention out on the gross vibrations.
[00:00:35]  What happens is we resonate on those vibrations and they come back into us and this thing inside of us, whatever it is, resonates with whatever we see or whatever our attention is on.
[00:00:51]  So this fulfillment that takes place in evolution where one gets satisfied with all the chocolates you can eat or all the fish burgers you can eat or all of the people you can meet or all the things that you can do, You will go someplace on the planet because everybody arrives at their particular place and time, and they will learn some form of meditation.
[00:01:28]  If I was going to get, I'm trying to think now, like, obviously I prefer open casket, full expensive burial that like bankrupts my family when I die, if I die.
[00:01:58]  Barring that, I do like the idea of San Francisco Columbarium because it's so cool.
[00:02:03]  What do you mean?
[00:02:05]  Have you never been to the San Francisco Columbarium?
[00:02:07]  No.
[00:02:08]  Oh, it's so sick.
[00:02:10]  It's kind of like near the marina.
[00:02:12]  It's like a columbarium is like a place where you inter ashes and it's sort of like a big dome.
[00:02:18]  Harvey Milk's in there and like a few other sort of famous people, but the one in San Francisco is cool because they have like the regular sort of trays where you're just interred, but they also have probably for a great sum of money, kind of little like glass displays.
[00:02:33]  So like your ashes will be in there and then like your glasses and you know, maybe like a record you liked.
[00:02:39]  A friend of mine, the King of the Skins, Bruce Rohrs, is in there.
[00:02:44]  This place is cool.
[00:02:45]  It's fucking sick.
[00:02:46]  Yeah, great date spot in San Francisco.
[00:02:51]  I know.
[00:02:52]  never been here i i didn't know about it until about 10 years ago when when a gyno died and uh and we had like yeah It was a little bit of a morning.
[00:03:01]  Santana.
[00:03:02]  Sunrays.
[00:03:02]  Santana's father.
[00:03:04]  He's dead.
[00:03:05]  No, no.
[00:03:05]  Carlos's father.
[00:03:07]  Gotcha.
[00:03:08]  The father, Santana.
[00:03:09]  But I kind of like the idea of being buried in the columbarium there.
[00:03:12]  But I feel like they've run out of space, probably.
[00:03:14]  It doesn't seem like there's that many people.
[00:03:17]  It's big in there.
[00:03:18]  It's like several stories within.
[00:03:20]  Everything can slot you in.
[00:03:21]  I know.
[00:03:22]  It's just ashes.
[00:03:22]  Just put like a few in there.
[00:03:24]  Yeah.
[00:03:25]  Just get a little tiny little tiny alley.
[00:03:27]  Just a little cuppy hole like a mouse.
[00:03:31]  Hello.
[00:03:33]  My name is Brace the Humble Husband.
[00:03:36]  I'm Liz.
[00:03:37]  I'm Producer Young Chomsky.
[00:03:39]  And this is Tronan.
[00:03:40]  Hello.
[00:03:41]  Hello.
[00:03:42]  Why are we talking about being buried?
[00:03:46]  Because we talk about everything.
[00:03:49]  Yeah.
[00:03:50]  What is this episode about?
[00:03:51]  Did you say this?
[00:03:53]  I don't know.
[00:03:55]  But I had a blast.
[00:03:56]  And that's what matters.
[00:03:58]  Yeah.
[00:03:59]  Yeah.
[00:03:59]  This is a very fun episode to record.
[00:04:04]  Yeah.
[00:04:06]  This episode's about a little bit of everything, I would say.
[00:04:09]  I think that it's not about the episode.
[00:04:14]  It was about the journey for us.
[00:04:16]  That's all I care about.
[00:04:17]  We take the journey during the episode, but I see what you mean there.
[00:04:20]  I'm just saying.
[00:04:21]  To me, people always do this false binary of journey, destination.
[00:04:26]  For me, it's all the same.
[00:04:28]  That's exactly what some of them says.
[00:04:30]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:32]  Because to me, what is the destination, but the start of a new journey, right?
[00:04:35]  And so it's mostly journey.
[00:04:37]  And it's always where you, the, you know, the last place to look.
[00:04:40]  It's well, sometimes it's the first place you look.
[00:04:43]  No, it's the last place you left them.
[00:04:45]  It's the last place you left them, the first place you look.
[00:04:47]  That's what they say.
[00:04:48]  That's where your keys are.
[00:04:49]  I don't think that's what they say.
[00:04:51]  Well, that is what they say.
[00:04:53]  And in order for me to be right about this, we have to start transitioning to the interview portion because then it is already pre-recorded, Liz, and she can't disagree with me and humiliate me in front of hundreds of millions of listeners as she does twice weekly.
[00:05:19]  You know, I'm no expert on Mormonism.
[00:05:22]  Yes.
[00:05:23]  I'm starting to become one.
[00:05:25]  No.
[00:05:26]  Not in any like book learning sort of way, but I've been praying to the Mormon God and receiving answers back.
[00:05:30]  Okay.
[00:05:32]  And it got me thinking.
[00:05:33]  Oftentimes people wonder, what if the South had won the Civil War?
[00:05:37]  What if the Nazis had won the Second World War?
[00:05:42]  Things of this nature.
[00:05:43]  These are their alternative history scenarios that people have.
[00:05:47]  But I'm always like, you know, what if the Mormons were Pharaoh and my people were building the temple?
[00:05:58]  Would we even want to leave such a pleasant environment?
[00:06:03]  It's a lot to think about, a lot to chew on, and here to help us masticate.
[00:06:08]  Not on that question whatsoever, but just as a little way to well, maybe we'll get there.
[00:06:13]  Maybe we'll get there.
[00:06:14]  Liz, you probably know what's the drink you drink before you start eating if you're in Europe.
[00:06:18]  An apertif?
[00:06:20]  What are you talking about?
[00:06:20]  Is it?
[00:06:20]  But appartif sounds like it should be after because it starts with an A.
[00:06:24]  It is an apertif.
[00:06:25]  Well, that's after.
[00:06:26]  Yeah, that's both.
[00:06:27]  What's the pre-tif?
[00:06:29]  I don't know.
[00:06:30]  That's for real.
[00:06:31]  I don't know.
[00:06:33]  Anyways, Matt Farwell, author, The Hunt for Tom Clancy, here with us.
[00:06:40]  You're so disappointed.
[00:06:41]  Greetings.
[00:06:42]  Hello, friends.
[00:06:44]  Hello, Matt.
[00:06:46]  Matt, what's up?
[00:06:47]  How are you doing?
[00:06:47]  It's so good to see you again.
[00:06:49]  Oh, hey, thank you.
[00:06:50]  I'm living the dream.
[00:06:51]  I'm now, I think last time we talked, I was in studio in New York, but I was living in Virginia.
[00:06:57]  Correct.
[00:06:58]  I'm now living in Salt Lake City, Utah, down the street from the temple, down the street from the Masonic Temple, down the street from the Scientology Center.
[00:07:09]  Is there just one street there?
[00:07:11]  What's going on?
[00:07:12]  Well, there's one North Temple, there's one South Temple, there's one West Temple, and I don't think there's an East Temple, or at least I haven't driven on it.
[00:07:21]  That sounds like opportunity to me.
[00:07:23]  I mean, it's a lot of Temple Streets.
[00:07:26]  So, you know, going with your theme.
[00:07:28]  Wait, Matt, the Scientology Center is down there?
[00:07:32]  Yeah, on South Temple Street.
[00:07:34]  Are they getting a lot of play in Utah?
[00:07:37]  Because you'd figure if you're going to join like the, you know, that's the new American team.
[00:07:44]  You want to pick the winning team.
[00:07:46]  You want to pick the winner, right?
[00:07:47]  Yeah.
[00:07:48]  Yeah.
[00:07:49]  And I feel like if you're going into Scientology, like if I was one of the guys who was auditing at the Salt Lake City South Temple Scientology Center and you walked in there, I'd be like, well, what happened to Mormonism?
[00:08:02]  I think, though, it's also how you escalate.
[00:08:04]  Maybe if you're a rebellious Mormon kid.
[00:08:07]  Oh, interesting.
[00:08:08]  You know, and you're like, actually, dead.
[00:08:11]  I'm going to operate Fate in a little bit.
[00:08:13]  Yeah.
[00:08:14]  You know, imagine if you're like high up on the Scientology ladder and you get sent to Salt Lake City.
[00:08:22]  That's got to feel bad.
[00:08:23]  Like that's where you run.
[00:08:24]  That's your territory.
[00:08:26]  Like that's where that's where they send the guys that they're like, well, we don't know about the, you know, this is not a lot of play in Salt Lake City.
[00:08:33]  Are you are you implying that the place that I live and currently call home is shitty?
[00:08:38]  No, I'm saying I'm agreeing with Grace that the home team there has a lot more fans.
[00:08:45]  And so if you are working out of the Scientology Center, understood.
[00:08:49]  Okay.
[00:08:49]  Maybe you're not getting a lot of play.
[00:08:51]  No, that's true.
[00:08:52]  It's like, it's kind of like being the guy who gets sent to run the Chabad in Mecca.
[00:08:56]  You know what I mean?
[00:08:57]  You're like, well, what am I even doing here?
[00:08:59]  It's like the slow horses.
[00:09:01]  Yeah.
[00:09:01]  Scientologists.
[00:09:02]  You're like, yeah, I guess that's true.
[00:09:05]  You're probably so excited when people walk in the door of Scientology fucking.
[00:09:09]  The lights are on at strange times because I drive past there and like, I don't know.
[00:09:14]  I've only ever done in New York, I did the, what's where you grab the like little rods of truth or whatever?
[00:09:22]  I don't remember in the subway.
[00:09:23]  I've done that too.
[00:09:23]  Yeah.
[00:09:24]  I also.
[00:09:24]  You used to have them in San Francisco in the subway.
[00:09:26]  I think it's, yeah, the E-meter.
[00:09:28]  Yes.
[00:09:28]  And I went to the center in DC.
[00:09:31]  It's in like a beautiful red brick building.
[00:09:34]  And I watched a literal film strip of Elrond like in a sailor hat give his give his spiel.
[00:09:42]  I got suckered in by like, you know, the guy in the red shirt.
[00:09:45]  I'm, of course.
[00:09:46]  I grew up Mormon, so I'm like programmed to be like, oh, yeah, I do want to hear about your religion.
[00:09:50]  Yeah, that sounds interesting.
[00:09:52]  You know, very open-minded people.
[00:09:54]  You know, I, I, sorry, I don't know if I can talk about this, but an open mind is really important to me.
[00:10:03]  And I feel like on September 10th, 2025, we lost one of our most open minds in human history right there in Orem, Utah.
[00:10:14]  And Matt, before we started.
[00:10:16]  I know you were, you're from there, but before, before we get into some of the, maybe the other stuff in this episode, you went down to campus that day.
[00:10:24]  You were in, you were in, I guess, a Salt Lake City and you were like, you were in one college?
[00:10:29]  I think it was at the University of Utah.
[00:10:31]  I had just gotten out of the swimming pool.
[00:10:33]  And I guess my nephew was watching that live and was like, Charlie Kirk just got shot in Utah.
[00:10:38]  Whoa.
[00:10:39]  And that's when it all changed.
[00:10:41]  But you dried off, I assume.
[00:10:43]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:43]  I was in my car on the way to the department.
[00:10:45]  So I just went and told my professor, like, hey, I'm not going to come to modernist poetry class today because I'm going to go live some modernist poetry.
[00:10:53]  And you went down there.
[00:10:54]  I did.
[00:10:54]  I drove down there.
[00:10:55]  I beat the feds down there.
[00:10:56]  Or like some of the feds.
[00:10:58]  Not hard to do.
[00:10:59]  What was it like?
[00:11:00]  Give us a lay of the land.
[00:11:02]  Okay.
[00:11:02]  So it's about an hour.
[00:11:05]  Actually, before I dip into this, I want to do like an emotional well-being check since we've been talking about this.
[00:11:10]  And, you know, Dick Cheney passed away a week ago.
[00:11:13]  Yeah.
[00:11:14]  Yeah.
[00:11:14]  And I just want to make sure everyone's doing okay.
[00:11:16]  We all handle grief in a different way.
[00:11:18]  We all sexual.
[00:11:21]  I become hypersexual.
[00:11:23]  I become hypersexual.
[00:11:25]  Relatable.
[00:11:25]  I just have to say it three times.
[00:11:27]  Because he's hypersexual.
[00:11:29]  Because Cheney died.
[00:11:30]  I'm hypersexual because my trauma response to Cheney's death has been frequent, debased, aggressive, onanistic activity.
[00:11:43]  You know what's wild is Cheney had a baby arm.
[00:11:46]  And like, he probably had a baby arm, but also tripod.
[00:11:52]  Oh, I thought you meant he had like, okay, I thought it was a missing.
[00:11:55]  Oh, I'm sure he had a trophy of a baby arm too.
[00:11:58]  Yeah.
[00:11:58]  Oh, yeah, he had a mirror.
[00:12:01]  That doesn't surprise me.
[00:12:02]  I mean, so does Bill Mai.
[00:12:03]  It's like, and this is what I got to tell you out there.
[00:12:06]  If you ever hate a guy, including me, but frankly, it's really not me.
[00:12:10]  It's in fact the actual literal inverse for me.
[00:12:14]  But if you ever really hate a guy, the problem is he's got a missile.
[00:12:18]  And there's no way around it.
[00:12:20]  It's like Bill Meyer.
[00:12:21]  You know, it's like all these guys.
[00:12:23]  I really can't just think of Bill Meyer, but that's the only one I can think of the top of my head.
[00:12:26]  But I have a list.
[00:12:27]  Honestly, I heard that's why he shot the dude.
[00:12:32]  Because Whittington, according to the story I heard, and it's probably just a rumor, but Whittington was complaining because Cheney was fucking Whittington's wife.
[00:12:42]  No.
[00:12:43]  And so Cheney was like, I can do whatever the fuck I want and shot him with a shotgun and then made him apologize for being shot with the shotgun in order to get free White House healthcare for life.
[00:12:55]  He passed away a couple of years ago.
[00:12:56]  Swear to God.
[00:12:57]  The last part I know is true.
[00:13:00]  The first part, the cause for it, but I know that after Whittington apologized, he could basically go to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for sick call.
[00:13:09]  No.
[00:13:10]  And you know those doctors pass out the pills, man.
[00:13:12]  Oh, you've seen the list.
[00:13:14]  They've got crazy stuff going on.
[00:13:15]  I did see the list.
[00:13:16]  I did see the list.
[00:13:18]  Could you imagine working in the White House?
[00:13:19]  You can get whatever you want.
[00:13:21]  Can you imagine?
[00:13:22]  Downers.
[00:13:23]  Oh, and when I went to the White House last administration, I got invited to the West Wing for some fucking reason.
[00:13:28]  And they have, yeah, I was buddies with the Deputy National Security Advisor.
[00:13:34]  So I called him up and was like, hey, I didn't know you're deputy national security advisor.
[00:13:38]  He's like, do you want to come by?
[00:13:40]  Well, his assistant was.
[00:13:41]  And I was like, yeah, okay.
[00:13:42]  Oh, but what was it like?
[00:13:45]  Well, okay, you know those Coke machines that they have at the, I'm just going to reveal all my secrets.
[00:13:50]  I love that.
[00:13:51]  Go ahead.
[00:13:51]  Charlie Kerr.
[00:13:52]  But we'll talk about Bannon here in a second, too.
[00:13:54]  But, you know, because I'm bipartisan.
[00:13:57]  Don't try.
[00:13:58]  Yeah.
[00:13:59]  I mean, try anything once.
[00:14:01]  Try anything once.
[00:14:04]  Yeah, it's, it's really the partisan, not the party for me.
[00:14:08]  You know, but yeah.
[00:14:11]  So they have a Coke machines like they have at the movie theater, you know, with like the single cloaqua or whatever the fuck you call that, like the single orifice.
[00:14:24]  This sponsors all of the like at the movies?
[00:14:28]  I like it with the little wheel.
[00:14:30]  You know that, you know, they installed that shit during the first Trump administration.
[00:14:33]  Yeah.

=== Bipartisan Encounters (15:26) ===

[00:14:34]  Like Biden and Biden showed up and they were like, oh my God.
[00:14:38]  Yeah, because there's no way like Michelle's healthy White House would never have anything like that.
[00:14:43]  I don't think they have.
[00:14:44]  Liz, I don't think they had that tech.
[00:14:46]  They did have that tech during the Obama era.
[00:14:49]  They just suppressed it.
[00:14:50]  It was on AFP.
[00:14:52]  No, I'm sorry.
[00:14:53]  They have the infinite flavor coke machine at the White House.
[00:14:56]  They sure as hell do.
[00:14:58]  Because in the West Wing.
[00:15:00]  I can't speak to the residents, but only the West Wing.
[00:15:02]  Who gives a fuck about that?
[00:15:03]  I mean, John probably is drinking diet.
[00:15:05]  Did they let me in?
[00:15:07]  But wait, wait.
[00:15:08]  So you can get Diet Cherry Coke there.
[00:15:11]  Damn.
[00:15:11]  I got raspberry, raspberry button, but loaded.
[00:15:15]  You know, because I don't trust Aspartame because of Donald Rumsfeld.
[00:15:18]  Yeah, I feel that.
[00:15:21]  So what, that's, that's your impression they had the Coke infinite.
[00:15:25]  That's a pretty good detail.
[00:15:26]  Yeah.
[00:15:26]  And then my, that was when I first knew like Biden or whoever ran after Biden, the Harris vice president lady, I knew they were going to lose because my buddy was like, I'm like, how you doing, man?
[00:15:37]  He's like, well, not well, you know, and I'm like, yeah, your job sucks.
[00:15:44]  And then he's like, I don't think I'm going to have a job come November.
[00:15:47]  And I'm like, oh, you guys are going to lose.
[00:15:49]  And he was like, yeah.
[00:15:51]  And so, like, then we just sat inside his office for a second.
[00:15:56]  And I was like, I was like, man, this is fucking depressing.
[00:16:00]  And there's like a safe door here.
[00:16:02]  Like, and you just live here all day answering like emails about like, you know, like, and he's a nice guy.
[00:16:09]  He, uh, he was a Washington Post reporter in Baghdad.
[00:16:14]  I guess I'm blown a source, but whatever, John.
[00:16:16]  Hi, how are you?
[00:16:18]  Hey, John, how you doing?
[00:16:19]  He was a Washington Post reporter at Baghdad.
[00:16:21]  I've known him for years.
[00:16:22]  And, you know, like he, he wanted to make a difference.
[00:16:26]  So he went to Yale Law School, first mistake.
[00:16:29]  Then he joined the Biden like camp and second mistake joining the Biden camp.
[00:16:36]  And then he got promoted all that.
[00:16:38]  Sorry, is my thing dinging?
[00:16:40]  Yeah, but that's probably John being like, get my fucking name out of your mouth.
[00:16:44]  Just unding it.
[00:16:45]  So, yeah.
[00:16:46]  So that was a, I mean, it was like 15 minutes because they like live in 15 minute increments.
[00:16:50]  And I think he just briefly wanted to like see someone who didn't like have like all the blood on my hands is dry at this point or washed off.
[00:17:00]  You know, but like, it's got to be hard.
[00:17:04]  That must suck, man.
[00:17:06]  They're just hitting the suicide on that Coke machine every day.
[00:17:10]  I mean, it's the only thing really keeping him alive.
[00:17:12]  And we don't know what other drugs they put in there.
[00:17:14]  I felt pretty good leaving the White House, but I also smoked a joint before I went in there.
[00:17:18]  I'm pretty sure they're giving Pam Bondi like benzodiazepines that even the Chinese haven't invented yet.
[00:17:23]  Oh my God.
[00:17:24]  I met Pam Bondi's nephew at a horse race in Virginia.
[00:17:30]  What?
[00:17:31]  With the student veterans of Virginia.
[00:17:34]  And he's a like, he's a student veteran at UVA, or I guess was.
[00:17:42]  And he's a nice guy.
[00:17:43]  I don't know.
[00:17:44]  But he was like, yeah, he kept talking about his aunt.
[00:17:46]  And he's a black guy.
[00:17:47]  And so I didn't originally suspect that like Pam Bondi was his aunt, but he kept talking about like how he'd gone fox hunting and shit.
[00:17:56]  And I was like, what's your like last name, dude?
[00:17:59]  And he's like, oh, Bondi.
[00:18:00]  And I'm like, is the Attorney General your aunt?
[00:18:03]  And he's like, yeah, yeah, you know this.
[00:18:06]  I was like, oh, okay.
[00:18:07]  He's like, yeah.
[00:18:07]  He's like, you know who the Attorney General is?
[00:18:09]  I was like, I do.
[00:18:10]  I do know who the Attorney General is.
[00:18:12]  He's like, oh, you've seen her stuff.
[00:18:14]  Yeah.
[00:18:14]  Yeah.
[00:18:15]  I mean, we've all incredible work.
[00:18:17]  Well, I do want, before we get back to Charlie, I want to, because you ran into, you ran into, no, no, no.
[00:18:22]  R.I.P. I mean, we, that deserves, that deserves its own section.
[00:18:27]  But you ran into somebody that we've also been talking about on this show, one of the most collared gentlemen in America.
[00:18:33]  And also, of course, collared in the sort of law enforcement sense off of on a yacht off the coast of the Atlantic coast of America with the goat billionaire Miles Guo.
[00:18:46]  We've been talking about my favorite Leninist, Steve Bannon.
[00:18:49]  Steve Bannon.
[00:18:50]  Stephen K. Bannon.
[00:18:51]  You met him at Butterworth.
[00:18:53]  What that place is really called Butterworth's?
[00:18:55]  Butterworth's.
[00:18:55]  Well, I met him on text before.
[00:18:58]  I have a conservative friend who writes for the Atlantic that had his phone number and gave it to me.
[00:19:04]  So I just cold texted Steve Bannon, as one does, and explained to him how I'm different from everyone else because I am.
[00:19:12]  And then we kind of became buddies.
[00:19:14]  And this was when I think he was still sort of in exile.
[00:19:18]  And the plan that we had was to get in a car in Roswell, New Mexico after going to the UFO Museum.
[00:19:27]  And I got him to agree to this, drive from Roswell to Los Alamos.
[00:19:32]  All right, this fool has nothing going on.
[00:19:34]  Which would take us past Jeffrey Epstein's ranch, Zorro.
[00:19:38]  Of course.
[00:19:39]  You know, and then, so then I didn't hear from him for a while.
[00:19:42]  And then I was, I was still at UVA, get my master's, and I was up in DC house sitting for a friend who lives on Capitol Hill and like pet sitting the dog and cat, Ozzy Mandius and Mrs. Dalloway.
[00:19:54]  Great names.
[00:19:55]  I know, I know.
[00:19:56]  It's amazing.
[00:19:57]  Great Capitol Hill pet names.
[00:19:58]  It's the best.
[00:20:00]  And so I went to Butterworth's because they have amazing lamb tartare.
[00:20:05]  Lamb tartare.
[00:20:06]  They do.
[00:20:07]  They have good lamb tartare.
[00:20:08]  Their like kitchen is good.
[00:20:10]  I'm not going to lie about this.
[00:20:11]  And so Butterworth's, for those who don't know, I've only heard of it referenced as a sort of conservative eatery.
[00:20:19]  It's like, you know, Saturday.
[00:20:22]  You know, Saturday's pork store in like Sopranos?
[00:20:26]  Never seen it.
[00:20:27]  Like, you've never seen Sopranos?
[00:20:29]  I don't want to get into it.
[00:20:30]  Okay.
[00:20:30]  The pork store they all sit in front of.
[00:20:32]  Yeah.
[00:20:32]  It's, it's the place where like all the waiters are foreign like twinks for the most part on questionable visas, which is funny as shit to me because they'll just tell you about it.
[00:20:45]  Talk to the, never mind.
[00:20:47]  I won't dime anyone out.
[00:20:50]  And then, like, I saw, so one, I was eating there and I saw Steve Bannon in the corner with a blonde woman.
[00:20:57]  And I texted him.
[00:20:58]  I hadn't heard from him.
[00:20:59]  And I texted him, I'm like, hey, man, like, I thought you were out West.
[00:21:02]  Like, I thought we were going to do this thing.
[00:21:03]  You know, I'm a little heartbroken.
[00:21:05]  And, you know, I see you're there with a lady.
[00:21:07]  I'm not going to bother you.
[00:21:09]  And he texts me back.
[00:21:10]  He's like, oh, this is business.
[00:21:11]  Come on over, say hi.
[00:21:13]  And here's the thing.
[00:21:14]  He's like, personally, he's charming.
[00:21:18]  I've heard that.
[00:21:18]  I later on brought my woman I was dating who was a communist from Calcutta, or she's not a communist, but she's from a communist background.
[00:21:29]  And she was like, did I, do I like Steve Bannon after meeting and talking with him?
[00:21:35]  So he's a personable guy.
[00:21:38]  That doesn't surprise me.
[00:21:39]  And I mean, you hear this about all sorts of people, you know, everybody that I've met that's sort of a prominent personality on the right has been sort of emotionally and socially repulsive.
[00:21:54]  But I think that they're, and that's just sort of, I'm trying to think if there's anyone I have met who's like not like that.
[00:22:00]  I guess Yomni Park, the beautiful Yomni Park, who I know you are.
[00:22:04]  She's wonderful.
[00:22:05]  I met her at UVA.
[00:22:06]  She's so nice.
[00:22:07]  We talked about flowers.
[00:22:08]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:09]  Which she hadn't seen until she was about 25.
[00:22:12]  She had a tough life, man.
[00:22:15]  Matt, I mean, I think she had a tough life, but I don't know if her telling of that tough life is exactly the most.
[00:22:24]  It was so funny to me to see, like, because I got invited to that because they like needed to round out the like ultra-conservative group at UVA with like the student veterans.
[00:22:34]  So they're like, do you want to go see this Yanwee Park lady speak?
[00:22:36]  I'm like, fuck yeah, let's do that.
[00:22:40]  And I was like, it's so funny that like this country club population of like silver-haired, like 50-year-old white guys who have never like held a tool in their hand, like a workable tool, you know?
[00:22:54]  Yeah.
[00:22:55]  Like needs reassurance from this like four foot seven Korean woman.
[00:23:02]  Like she had to go rally them, rally their spirits.
[00:23:06]  Yeah.
[00:23:06]  And I was also like, God bless her.
[00:23:08]  She's found a niche, man.
[00:23:10]  I know, I know.
[00:23:10]  You can't, you can't knock the hustle.
[00:23:12]  I mean, every, no, she's the only, I think, conservative personality that I've met while being fully honest.
[00:23:18]  I mean, it wasn't fully honest, but like while not being, I guess, in some sense, duplicitous.
[00:23:23]  I never completely lie to people, but I don't exactly offer my full background.
[00:23:28]  They never know who I am or anything.
[00:23:29]  But most MAGA, like lumpin' MAGA that I've met have been, have been fairly friendly.
[00:23:35]  But I've also, I present, obviously, I physically look very MAGA.
[00:23:39]  And so people, people sort of take a shine to me because yeah.
[00:23:42]  No, I mean, I have, I have a pretty easy time with it because like, I remember being down at the Trump Doral for Doral for the profile I was doing on Mike Flynn and like the photo editor from the New Republic emailed me and was like, do you feel safe?
[00:23:58]  Are you okay?
[00:24:00]  And I'm like, I'm at a country club resort in Florida, like with a bunch of Republicans and I'm a white male combat veteran.
[00:24:08]  Like, do you think I'm having a tough time here?
[00:24:11]  Like, this is great.
[00:24:12]  If I hadn't been, if I hadn't been married at the time, I would have hooked up with the woman who worked with the anti-vax network who told me within 10 minutes of meeting her that she had lied about having a college degree on her resume and had, in fact, gotten married when she was like 17 and spent those four years in like a weird, like, you know, like quiverful relationship before she escaped.
[00:24:37]  What does she look like?
[00:24:39]  She's beautiful.
[00:24:39]  She had brown hair.
[00:24:41]  She was from Texas, big eyes, you know?
[00:24:47]  I found Flynn to be kind of just like, I was a little shocked that he had held command responsibility.
[00:24:54]  Let's say that when I met him.
[00:24:55]  Well, but he, I mean, up until he took over DIA, he generally didn't, right?
[00:25:00]  He was like the grand vizier with stuff.
[00:25:03]  Like he was the S2 guy.
[00:25:05]  He was your intel guy where you need like a crazy psycho Rhode Island Irish gangster in that sometimes.
[00:25:13]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:14]  He just, he didn't strike me.
[00:25:16]  I mean, I, again, I, I, I stood next to him as he prayed for a while.
[00:25:19]  Yeah.
[00:25:19]  I was just kind of like, was it the cult prayer from Montana?
[00:25:22]  My brother, I don't pray.
[00:25:23]  We don't, your fucking, your goyish prayers just, it's like, it's like water off a duck's back.
[00:25:29]  I can't understand a word you're saying.
[00:25:31]  The God that you're beseeching.
[00:25:34]  Well, I respect and do worship is the same God.
[00:25:38]  We're all people of the book here.
[00:25:39]  It's a different, it's a different convent, covenant, whatever.
[00:25:43]  That's convents too.
[00:25:44]  It's a different covenant.
[00:25:46]  It doesn't involve circumcision.
[00:25:47]  And so I don't think that there's really the same dedication.
[00:25:50]  But anyways, Bannon, Bannon, you, you were into Bannon at Butterworth's and you're like, do you remind him?
[00:25:55]  Are you like, I thought we were supposed to go on?
[00:25:57]  No, he knew who I was.
[00:25:59]  He invited me over and like introduced me to the lady who is selling him health supplements, like going to sell it on his podcast.
[00:26:06]  I think it was the simple green, which does wonders for your skin, apparently.
[00:26:11]  And I'm sure your intestines as well.
[00:26:14]  Simple green is the cleaner, but what you're thinking of is perhaps athletic greens.
[00:26:18]  I don't know.
[00:26:19]  I have no idea what it is.
[00:26:21]  But like a blonde lady was selling Steve Bannon healthcare products to sell to Maga on the podcast, which is, you know, so I sat there.
[00:26:28]  He, he was like, he did the like, he was in seduction mode.
[00:26:31]  So he's like, this is Matt Farwell.
[00:26:32]  He's one of the best writers working in America now.
[00:26:35]  And I'm like, I mean, that's true, but you don't know that.
[00:26:39]  haven't read anything I've written, Steve, like, but I like your style.
[00:26:42]  And he's a, he's an Atlantic, like, he's a Navy guy who grew up in Richmond.
[00:26:47]  So he sounds like all of my friend's parents.
[00:26:51]  So like, I just kind of like, I don't know, man.
[00:26:55]  Um, I turned out I like Steve Bannon as like a person in the interactions I've had with him.
[00:27:01]  And Steve, if you're listening to this, we still needed to do the road trip because I was proud of him.
[00:27:06]  He doubled down when we were sitting there.
[00:27:08]  He's like, yeah, we should do that, but we also need to go to Area 51.
[00:27:13]  And I was like, fuck yes, we do, but that's like four days' drive, Steve.
[00:27:17]  And he's like, that's cool.
[00:27:18]  I'll take you by four corners.
[00:27:20]  I'll show you where I'm going to buy land from the Navajo.
[00:27:24]  And I was like, well, that's weird because like I'm friendly with the Hikari Apache, but I can't buy land there.
[00:27:31]  And I looked into it.
[00:27:33]  You can get a long-term lease with the Navajo if they like you.
[00:27:37]  And like on multiple levels, kind of like how you can't get Swiss citizenship unless like everyone likes you.
[00:27:44]  So why is Steve Bannon able to do that?
[00:27:49]  I mean, I could imagine that Steve Bannon has the ear of some like, you know, some chieftain or there's also uranium to be mined down there.
[00:28:00]  Yeah.
[00:28:01]  Yeah.
[00:28:01]  And there's micro reactors at Idaho National Lab a couple of like hours up the road where the crypto bros really want those for their valuable product digital money.
[00:28:16]  Have you talked to him lately?
[00:28:18]  Bannon, I texted him last night, actually.
[00:28:20]  I texted him.
[00:28:20]  Did you watch the video of from Summum from the Pyramid?
[00:28:24]  I did.
[00:28:25]  Yeah.
[00:28:25]  So I texted him that video, not expecting him to respond.
[00:28:29]  So Steve Bannon has now seen the advertisement for MER, a sexual enhancement product produced by the Summum Pyramid Cult in Salt Lake City.
[00:28:38]  Not that different to what he sells on his Rumble show.
[00:28:41]  No, I mean, and that's a supplement.
[00:28:45]  And I'll get back to Charlie Kirk.
[00:28:47]  I'm sorry, but the Summum people, they are like the original podcasters, and we'll have to talk about them.
[00:28:51]  Oh, yeah.
[00:28:52]  I watched a number of their broadcasts.
[00:28:54]  It's amazing.
[00:28:55]  It's amazing.
[00:28:55]  I've been to five meetings in the pyramid.
[00:28:58]  For two of them, they just read Osho for an hour.
[00:29:01]  You know, the wild, wild country guy?
[00:29:03]  Yeah.
[00:29:04]  It rules.
[00:29:05]  It's so awesome.
[00:29:06]  Okay.
[00:29:07]  So I go down to UVU.
[00:29:08]  First thing you need to know is it's an hour from Salt Lake City on the highway.
[00:29:12]  There's only one way to get there.
[00:29:13]  It's on I-15.
[00:29:14]  Second thing you need to know is Orem, Utah is the whitest place you might be able to go in America outside of the Northeast.
[00:29:28]  And by that, I mean Vermont and New Hampshire.
[00:29:31]  Okay.
[00:29:31]  Because you shouldn't escape Vermont and New Hampshire.
[00:29:34]  I know what you are.
[00:29:36]  And anyways, So I get down there and I park at the Walmart and the McDonald's across the street because already there's like 100 cops there.
[00:29:45]  And I like walk across the street.
[00:29:49]  I talk to, you know, like it's, I saw a bunch of 19 year old kids who'd seen somebody like get their, you know, head split open or their neck split open or however it was.

=== Two Days Away Retirement (07:06) ===

[00:30:00]  I didn't watch the video.
[00:30:01]  I had enough.
[00:30:02]  But so like on that aspect of it, like that sucked, right?
[00:30:06]  Like those poor kids.
[00:30:07]  Yeah.
[00:30:07]  You know, felt bad for them.
[00:30:10]  And then thankfully I was wearing my suit-ish stuff.
[00:30:13]  So I just kind of walked around and like, I've learned reporting that if you just show up somewhere and just hang out and people get used to seeing you, then they don't give a fuck what you do.
[00:30:26]  And so I was sitting on a park bench after talking with like two old men who had been there.
[00:30:31]  One guy was former military, one guy was a former cop and like kind of a blowhard.
[00:30:36]  And this photographer comes by, a freelancer for the Times.
[00:30:39]  So she tells me she's going to the press conference.
[00:30:41]  And I'm like, well, I'm going to go to the press conference too.
[00:30:44]  And I'd emailed the Times because I have a freelance contract with them.
[00:30:47]  And I'd emailed Harper's because I have a contract with them, but neither of them had really gotten back to me.
[00:30:52]  So I was just kind of like, yeah, I'm a New York Times writer to get into the press conference.
[00:30:58]  The Times photographer was like, I don't think you work for the Times.
[00:31:01]  And I'm like, why are you narking me out to the cops?
[00:31:06]  Wait, she narked you to the police?
[00:31:08]  I don't, she's like, I don't, this guy didn't work for the Times.
[00:31:10]  The advantage had I had was I was a local guy.
[00:31:13]  So I was.
[00:31:14]  And also, you're in the fucking suit.
[00:31:16]  I know, I know, but no tie.
[00:31:18]  So I now put on the tie because the tie just adds that extra level of power with the tie clip, you know?
[00:31:24]  And the flower disarms people.
[00:31:26]  Yeah, I do like the little corsage.
[00:31:28]  Because you don't know if it's got sarin in it.
[00:31:31]  No, you really don't.
[00:31:32]  I mean, I could be coordinating a strike on Kim Nong Jam in the Malaysia airport using two Vietnamese prostitutes wearing LOL t-shirts.
[00:31:42]  One of the greatest beautiful.
[00:31:44]  His son went to my Illuminati high school.
[00:31:47]  He went to the one in Croatia, though.
[00:31:49]  Jesus Christ.
[00:31:50]  Yeah, he's in hiding in the U.S. now.
[00:31:52]  I can imagine.
[00:31:54]  Probably.
[00:31:55]  I mean, he probably, well, I'm not going to say that.
[00:31:58]  That'll get me in trouble.
[00:31:59]  But if someone were to be the second gunman on there, it would be kind of amazing if that were the person.
[00:32:08]  If it was Kim John Nam's son.
[00:32:11]  That's in hiding.
[00:32:12]  It would be a great way to tie up some loose suits.
[00:32:14]  That went to UWC and Most Star.
[00:32:16]  They really should.
[00:32:17]  If this is all arranged by some like CIA, whatever.
[00:32:22]  It would be a good way for them to.
[00:32:25]  Combine some crossover.
[00:32:27]  Everyone loves a big crossover.
[00:32:29]  What if JFK Jr. took the shot?
[00:32:32]  Exactly.
[00:32:34]  Exactly.
[00:32:35]  And now he's going to run for president.
[00:32:37]  I would, yeah, he's coming out of hiding.
[00:32:39]  He's like, he's going to use the trial as his vehicle to wage a guerrilla campaign.
[00:32:45]  But you got in the press conference.
[00:32:47]  I got in the press conference and the FBI was there.
[00:32:50]  They're like, I sat next to the poor fucking UVU comms guy who's like, I was like, worst day of his life.
[00:32:59]  Well, second worst day because he's like, I was in New York for 9-11.
[00:33:05]  And I was supposed to retire on September 12th.
[00:33:09]  And I'm like, God, you're two days away from retirement.
[00:33:12]  Wait, Charlie, UVU Comms guy was two days away from retirement when Charlie Kirk got killed?
[00:33:16]  Yes.
[00:33:16]  It was like a police movie.
[00:33:18]  It was amazing.
[00:33:19]  I was like, you're two days away from retirement.
[00:33:22]  One last job.
[00:33:24]  One last job.
[00:33:25]  Got to make this look not as bad as it clearly is.
[00:33:30]  So, anyways, they did the press conference.
[00:33:33]  And what I mostly noticed was it was like a big like renaissance fair for cops where they all got to like put on their dress up gear and come out like with their helmets and their like guns and stuff, you know?
[00:33:48]  And I had a, I had a friend that used to work for Black Rifle Coffee Company.
[00:33:52]  So I was happy to be able to send her a picture of an ATF agent in full kit and a Black Rifle Coffee Company t-shirt in Utah as God intended.
[00:34:02]  You can't drink coffee there.
[00:34:05]  Well, I mean, you can insult Lake.
[00:34:06]  This place is like the Kandahar of Utah.
[00:34:08]  I mean, not the Kandahar.
[00:34:09]  Utah is the rest of Utah is the Kandahar.
[00:34:12]  This is the Kabul.
[00:34:13]  Gotcha.
[00:34:14]  So yeah.
[00:34:15]  So there were a lot of cops there.
[00:34:17]  FBI gave their thing.
[00:34:18]  I screamed out a question about like foreign intelligence involvement because why not?
[00:34:24]  You know, you're only there.
[00:34:25]  Yeah, you're there.
[00:34:26]  You're in the suit.
[00:34:27]  Might as well.
[00:34:28]  You got to assume, right?
[00:34:29]  Like there's spies involved in everything.
[00:34:31]  It's kind of fun.
[00:34:32]  And I wanted to see the guys, the FBI guys' reaction because he had just come on the job two days prior.
[00:34:39]  Yes.
[00:34:40]  Yeah.
[00:34:40]  Cause they fired.
[00:34:41]  They fired the woman, right?
[00:34:42]  Who was who was in charge?
[00:34:43]  Yes, the Pakistani-American woman who had previously been in Islamabad, which like if you can deal with like hillbillies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, you can deal with hillbillies in Idaho, Utah, Wyoming.
[00:34:54]  I know, but I feel like she was, she was like, because Kash Patel came in and did his FBI hello to more and he like kicked out everybody.
[00:35:04]  I mean, that's the analogy.
[00:35:05]  I feel like that one might have been racially and gender based.
[00:35:11]  I don't want to sound too woke here.
[00:35:13]  I think that might be actually the opposite of woke.
[00:35:17]  Patr Patel was like, no more Pakistanis in here.
[00:35:20]  I think like traditionally people from India have had problems with people from Pakistan and vice versa.
[00:35:28]  Dude, I don't think you know what woke is.
[00:35:31]  Is that woke?
[00:35:32]  No, it's not woke.
[00:35:34]  Woke would be like, he No, he was saying I'm trying not to be woke by suggesting that this was motivated by race and gender.
[00:35:43]  Gotcha.
[00:35:44]  Okay, now I okay.
[00:35:45]  Okay, okay, yeah, okay, yes.
[00:35:46]  Yeah, yeah, no one is woke here.
[00:35:50]  But also, I think also everyone is woke again.
[00:35:54]  No, no, no.
[00:35:54]  Yeah, Matt.
[00:35:55]  Oh, sorry.
[00:35:55]  Mamdani won.
[00:35:57]  Yeah.
[00:35:58]  Oh, by the way, he now, that's not congratulations.
[00:36:01]  But Mamdani is also, I think Cash Matel is also Indian from Uganda.
[00:36:08]  Like his family moved to the United States.
[00:36:10]  Like how Gandhi was from South Africa and sent back to India as a British agent.
[00:36:15]  Oh, okay.
[00:36:16]  That's what I believe.
[00:36:18]  He volunteered to fight for the British in the Boer War, which, like, fair play.
[00:36:22]  You want to.
[00:36:22]  Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I was going to say, this is, I was actually, for some reason, we were, me and Liz were talking about this earlier today.
[00:36:28]  I'm not exactly taking sides in what happened between the whites in South Africa.
[00:36:33]  By the way, that's the best way to start a sentence.
[00:36:36]  I'm not taking sides there.
[00:36:37]  However, however, would I have refused a commission to guard a camp of Boer?
[00:36:45]  The answer to that is no.
[00:36:47]  I have to feed my family.
[00:36:48]  Alan Dullis's first written publication was when he was five or six years old and circulated a pamphlet on the Boer War.
[00:36:56]  So, like, you're in good company.
[00:36:58]  Wow.
[00:36:59]  Yeah.
[00:36:59]  I learned this from his memoir.
[00:37:03]  So you're, you're, so I'm down there.
[00:37:05]  I don't know.
[00:37:05]  They talk about shit.

=== Losing Is Winning (03:01) ===

[00:37:06]  They did like, you know, they're looking for stuff.
[00:37:08]  There's a bunch of cops.
[00:37:10]  I listen to that stuff and then I'm like, oh, okay.
[00:37:13]  And then afterwards, I go up to the FBI agent, like in the kind of atrium thing.
[00:37:17]  And I'm like, hey, man, like, I did have one other question.
[00:37:20]  And that's like, so I was here for like an hour and I just kind of walked around.
[00:37:25]  And like, your guys don't have very good like secondary posture.
[00:37:30]  And I didn't want to bring this up in the press conference because like, you know, I didn't want to do that.
[00:37:35]  But like, I used to be an army guy.
[00:37:37]  And if I had one mortar, I could have killed like a hundred cops.
[00:37:43]  Or if I put like IED in the trash can or like in the trunk, I could have killed a lot of cops.
[00:37:50]  You're just running through all the scenarios that you've mapped out.
[00:37:54]  Yeah.
[00:37:54]  And the guy's like, former military?
[00:37:57]  And I'm like, yes, sir.
[00:37:58]  Yeah, you knew.
[00:38:00]  And he actually like weirdly enough, kind of broke character.
[00:38:04]  Like most FBI guys don't, I don't know.
[00:38:07]  I don't find them as charismatic as the CIA guys.
[00:38:09]  They're all crazy.
[00:38:11]  But he kind of was like, oh my God, like, I know we try and do TTXs.
[00:38:17]  He's like, do you know what those are?
[00:38:18]  I'm like tactical training exercises.
[00:38:20]  He's like, I know.
[00:38:21]  We try and do them where like there's an ambush team so they won't bunch up.
[00:38:24]  He's like, but they're not going to learn till something happens.
[00:38:28]  And I was like, didn't something just happen?
[00:38:30]  Didn't something, yeah.
[00:38:31]  And there's like, yeah, it was, I mean, it's just like the most like, it was such just weird cosplay, you know, where I'm like, why are you guys all in like G.I. Joe gear?
[00:38:42]  You're dressed up better than like when I was getting shot at by the Taliban.
[00:38:46]  And like, they were actually pretty good, you know?
[00:38:50]  Yeah.
[00:38:50]  Well, so was.
[00:38:53]  But don't you think so much of it all now is cosplay?
[00:38:56]  I mean, I think it might have always been.
[00:38:59]  Yeah.
[00:39:00]  I think like a lot of war stuff might just be male inadequacy being projected through violence.
[00:39:05]  Well, what is Hegseth?
[00:39:07]  Oh, no, he's a true American hero.
[00:39:12]  But he embodies that too.
[00:39:14]  It's almost like a parody of that.
[00:39:17]  His press secretary was in my battalion, Sean Parnell.
[00:39:20]  He wrote this bullshit book called Outlaw Platoon.
[00:39:23]  Oh, man.
[00:39:24]  And like, God damn it.
[00:39:26]  The army needs to lose again.
[00:39:29]  What do you think?
[00:39:30]  We've been losing for the last 75 years.
[00:39:32]  I know.
[00:39:33]  You've only lost.
[00:39:34]  Just like the FBI guy.
[00:39:35]  I know you've kind of only, yeah, well.
[00:39:37]  Had a tough break of it, man.
[00:39:39]  Yeah, but losing is, you know.
[00:39:41]  Losing is winning, but just from the other side.
[00:39:43]  But I'm saying like losing in the needs to be just like no more books.
[00:39:49]  There's no more, no more naming your shit like Outlaw Platoon fucking, I can't like, you know, killer squad or whatever.
[00:39:56]  What was Hegseth's?
[00:39:58]  Hegseth was in a unit that was called Killer Squad or whatever.
[00:40:02]  My platoon was called the Bandits.
[00:40:06]  That's kind of classic.

=== Losing Is Winning (13:56) ===

[00:40:08]  It was nice, yeah.
[00:40:09]  And I was in Destroyer Company, but all the other companies were named after Indian tribes, which is like weird, you know, because it's like, I feel like that.
[00:40:19]  But all the helicopters that are named after Indian tribes are blessed by those tribes too.
[00:40:25]  Really?
[00:40:25]  Yeah, man.
[00:40:26]  You can like go and look at like Kiowa, like not all of them, but like the first one to be named, they generally make an agreement with the tribe and then like somebody gets sent out to bless the helicopter.
[00:40:38]  I hate this warrior bullshit.
[00:40:40]  Like it's like soldiers are always like, it's like they're always like, I really respect, I respect the natives because like we, you know, we beat them, but their warrior spirit still lives on.
[00:40:50]  Like you guys did like, you guys did like chemical warfare and then the Holocaust on them.
[00:40:56]  It wasn't like you guys were like meeting on a pitched battle all the time.
[00:41:00]  It's been my like, my, my big reaction to a lot of the like, we're living in the worst time in history because Donald Trump is president vibe is because we're living in the funniest time in history because Donald Trump is president.
[00:41:14]  My God.
[00:41:16]  But the, and also there are bad things.
[00:41:18]  But yeah, of course, but it's also.
[00:41:20]  Remind me like how many people we killed like between in the like Middle East between 2001 and 2016.
[00:41:29]  Because I think like conservative numbers from Brown University say 3.8 million people died as a result of U.S. military action, right?
[00:41:37]  Yeah.
[00:41:37]  So, I mean, it's why like a lot of the young kids at the university couldn't figure out like, why aren't people more upset about this Gaza stuff?
[00:41:45]  And I'm like, well, because to like policymakers in the U.S. government, those are rookie numbers.
[00:41:50]  Yeah.
[00:41:51]  Like, I mean, to be frank, we were wiping villages out in Afghanistan and then Paula Broadwell was denying it.
[00:41:58]  Yeah.
[00:41:58]  Yeah.
[00:41:58]  You know, Paula Krantz now, they got divorced for some reason.
[00:42:03]  Yeah.
[00:42:03]  Yeah.
[00:42:04]  It's, it's, well, it's funny too, because I think that like with Charlie Kirk, to bring it back to him a little bit, it was, I think that the react RIP, the reaction to Charlie's death was so fucking crazy that it was gen, like, do you remember?
[00:42:21]  I mean, now the hysteria has like calmed down enough to where like Charlie Kirk is now just like basically a meme.
[00:42:28]  Like you put his face on Kanye's face or whatever.
[00:42:30]  But like two months ago, Charlie Kirk was like a like, he was like a saint.
[00:42:38]  Like they were like, you have to put a statue of him in every single you know university, how he believed like they tried to make it seem like he was just some sort of like vague conservative, like, oh, guy who just wanted to hear everybody out.
[00:42:52]  But I'm like, it was that the hagiography around absurd.
[00:42:58]  What it reminded me of was, do you remember when Chris Stevens was killed in Benghazi?
[00:43:03]  Yeah, of course.
[00:43:04]  A fucking course I remember.
[00:43:06]  Also, also, also September, well, September 10th, 11th.
[00:43:10]  Holy shit, you're right.
[00:43:11]  Okay.
[00:43:12]  Oh, my God.
[00:43:12]  Why does Benghazi come home?
[00:43:14]  No, but I remember that very clearly because I was still like, Michael Hastings was still alive.
[00:43:20]  And I was working with him.
[00:43:23]  And he made the observation.
[00:43:25]  He's like, listen, this is the only time like a certain cadre of foreign service officer, Pentagon bureaucrat, and like White House staffer has known anyone who's died.
[00:43:39]  Yeah.
[00:43:39]  Like, and this is 2012, right?
[00:43:41]  They've been in this bubble for 11 years while like, I don't know, a lot of my buddies like, you know, getting killed.
[00:43:46]  But the, you know, this is the first, this brings the death home.
[00:43:52]  And so I think to every, I don't know if you guys felt this way, but to every podcaster, it was like a reminder, like, my God, I could die for my podcast.
[00:44:05]  No, I do.
[00:44:06]  You know, I know you're joking.
[00:44:07]  No, I'm not joking because we have like a podcaster in charge of the FBI.
[00:44:13]  We have a shadow president podcaster named Stephen K. Bannon.
[00:44:17]  Do you think he wishes he was a podcaster?
[00:44:20]  I think, I think Bannon coordinates all policy through the War Room podcast.
[00:44:25]  I think he's like, he's like the Jesuit general.
[00:44:29]  It's amazing.
[00:44:30]  No, I mean, I do think there is something to that.
[00:44:33]  That's something like Yasha Levine made the point too, that there was something about for like the media class, which you're right, because of like the immediacy of social media and that whole pipeline into politics.
[00:44:49]  It's, you know, content creator is like such a, you know, you could say that about cash even.
[00:44:55]  You could say that about, I mean, look at Dan Bongingo, whatever, right?
[00:44:59]  Perfect example.
[00:45:00]  All these people.
[00:45:01]  But, you know, that for them, it was like, oh, this like spectacle that we've all been kind of cultivating, partly, you know, that we've been cognizant of and partly not a little bit.
[00:45:16]  Yeah.
[00:45:17]  That they are, that they've been able to kind of like deny a little bit, like is now, oh, that's now like kind of being shattered with like Charlie.
[00:45:23]  Oh, Charlie's like actually, you know, can't, he got shot.
[00:45:27]  He got killed.
[00:45:27]  That could be me.
[00:45:28]  I mean, there is something to that.
[00:45:29]  Yeah.
[00:45:29]  Like, I used to run into that guy at the gym at Pelican Hill.
[00:45:32]  Like, like, that could have been me.
[00:45:36]  If I were, you know, like that sort of thing.
[00:45:38]  Yeah, they were doing episodes of a show with his chair empty.
[00:45:42]  Like Les Mazerade.
[00:45:43]  Phantom faces at the window.
[00:45:48]  Phantom shadows on the floor.
[00:45:52]  Empty chairs and empty tables.
[00:45:55]  Oh, can I tell you my best idea that I really want to do?
[00:46:01]  Of course you can.
[00:46:02]  You know how Hunter Thompson in the 70s, like Richard Nixon really wanted to talk about football and no one on his staff knew shit about football?
[00:46:10]  And so no, I didn't know that.
[00:46:11]  Okay, so they went and got Hunter Thompson and they're like, hey, man, will you talk to the president about football for half an hour?
[00:46:18]  You can only talk about football.
[00:46:20]  And he's like, yeah, like, I'll go do that.
[00:46:22]  So he got in the limo and like they had a nice conversation about football and then he got out.
[00:46:27]  So what?
[00:46:29]  Yeah.
[00:46:29]  You can look this up.
[00:46:30]  So I want to pitch the like Steve Chung.
[00:46:37]  So Steve, if you're listening or Steve Bannon, if you're listening to this too, I should watch The Phantom of the Opera with Donald Trump and only talk about the Phantom of the Opera with Donald Trump for an hour because I think I could get into some like very interesting things.
[00:46:54]  And they're also playing in Salt Lake City right now.
[00:46:57]  So I'm going to manifest this.
[00:46:59]  Donald Trump will watch The Phantom of the Opera with me in Salt Lake City as a message to Mitt Romney.
[00:47:05]  Can I add, what is it about the Phantom of the Opera you think that would be a good vehicle for?
[00:47:10]  Well, he seems to listen to Phantom of the Opera music when he feels depressed.
[00:47:14]  Yes.
[00:47:14]  It's so do I. Out of the, okay.
[00:47:17]  You know, like I thought the Phantom of the Opera, when we lived in Germany when I was little, we would go to Paris and I read the book when I was nine.
[00:47:25]  I thought the Phantom of the Opera was real.
[00:47:28]  And we toured the Paris Opera House, and the tour guide was like, No, this is the lake, like Gaston Leroux, how you say liar.
[00:47:36]  And I'm like, I can't believe a French novelist lied to me.
[00:47:39]  Like, you fucking bastard.
[00:47:41]  Like, I had no idea about the conventions of French realism.
[00:47:44]  God, yeah, I got to tell my friend the Count of Monte Cristo about this.
[00:47:47]  Yeah, you know what I mean?
[00:47:48]  Like, he was unjustly imprisoned.
[00:47:50]  That's a real story.
[00:47:53]  So, yeah, I just, I don't know.
[00:47:55]  I think that'd be hilarious.
[00:47:56]  And it's all absurd, anyways.
[00:47:58]  This is also the subject of our most recent Crackpots newsletter.
[00:48:02]  So Hinkley.
[00:48:03]  So, The Phantom of the Opera?
[00:48:05]  It's all Phantom of the Opera.
[00:48:07]  Oh, it's beautiful.
[00:48:08]  Well, you know, and the problem I have with the musical is there's Persian erasure because the hero in the book is a mysterious Persian from Afghanistan.
[00:48:17]  That's true.
[00:48:18]  Teaches how to evade the lasso, but there's only shades of that in the styleized production.
[00:48:25]  Whitewashed the whole thing.
[00:48:26]  The British.
[00:48:27]  You know how they are.
[00:48:28]  So you went to the press conference.
[00:48:30]  You talked to the cops.
[00:48:31]  Yep.
[00:48:31]  You know, Charlie's body, I think they were going to try to lay it in state.
[00:48:35]  That didn't seem to go down.
[00:48:36]  I'm going to die with this.
[00:48:38]  It's a great transition.
[00:48:40]  Yep.
[00:48:40]  Yep.
[00:48:42]  Well, no, Let me finish my transition.
[00:48:45]  Let me finish my transition.
[00:48:47]  Sorry.
[00:48:48]  Charlie's body, they were going to lay it in state.
[00:48:51]  They were going to have mourners come by, like JFK, and sort of put their little heads down and say, oh, we miss him so much.
[00:48:59]  We miss him so much.
[00:48:59]  We miss him so much.
[00:49:00]  And I'm not mocking this.
[00:49:01]  I miss him every single day.
[00:49:06]  But they didn't.
[00:49:07]  And now his body is, I'm sure, just tossed in some pit filled with lime and then paved over and forgotten.
[00:49:15]  However, there would have been one way for us to preserve Charlie's memory, and that would have been via mummification.
[00:49:21]  Now, Matt, you and I have been talking about pyramids for a very long time for years and a while ago, you started telling me that you had been attending a mummification pyramid cult groups meetings out there in Salt Lake City, Utah, named Summum.
[00:49:44]  And there's a lot to get into with that.
[00:49:48]  But what is that?
[00:49:51]  Okay, so Summum is a Salt Lake City.
[00:49:55]  The only place in America, supposedly land of the free, that a person can get legally mummified is in Salt Lake City, Utah, right?
[00:50:06]  So they have the mummy monopoly.
[00:50:08]  But their religious organization Based like on Harvey kind of Harvey Milk Boulevard and Genevieve's right by the highway.
[00:50:17]  Oh, first of all, yeah, you told me that they have a Harvey Milk Boulevard in Salt Lake City.
[00:50:21]  I totally woke up.
[00:50:23]  It's the cobble of Utah.
[00:50:25]  They're gonna actually, weird transition.
[00:50:27]  Do you know what they're trying to change it to?
[00:50:31]  What?
[00:50:32]  Oh, come on.
[00:50:33]  It's perfect.
[00:50:34]  It's Charlie Kirk.
[00:50:35]  It is Charlie Kirk.
[00:50:37]  Okay.
[00:50:38]  So, so this transitions in two good ways.
[00:50:42]  So, on potential future Charlie Kirk Boulevard and Genevieve Street, there exists a pyramid belonging to the Summum religion, which was founded by a guy whose first name was Claude Newell.
[00:50:56]  He's a Utah fella.
[00:50:57]  And then in 75, he got visited by two beings.
[00:51:02]  He called them the Summa Individuals, and they kind of explained how things worked.
[00:51:07]  He got visited by Summa individuals.
[00:51:10]  Summa individuals.
[00:51:11]  Yeah, the name is tough.
[00:51:13]  I'm often visited by some individuals.
[00:51:16]  There's a lot that is tough with it, you know, but it's kind of, are you sure that he didn't just say he, they just misheard him, whoever he was telling his experience to?
[00:51:26]  And they're like, Summa individuals?
[00:51:28]  No, I guess he started meditating and had astral out-of-body experiences.
[00:51:32]  And, you know, since I went to that ESP camp, I'm a believer in that shit.
[00:51:35]  When you say beings, can we be a little more specific?
[00:51:40]  So, like, extra-dimensional beings, like what you might call angels in another context, or jinn, or whatever.
[00:51:50]  But these were basically the incarnations of ancient Egyptian gods.
[00:51:55]  Oh, okay.
[00:51:56]  So, so, so they're not like ascended masters.
[00:51:58]  They're like, no, no, no, no.
[00:52:00]  They're higher than ascended masters, if you're using that terminology.
[00:52:04]  And some of them is kind of like, I've gone to five meetings now, I think.
[00:52:10]  And so, for two of them, they just read Osho, the guy, the wild, wild country guy.
[00:52:17]  And then two of them, they like read off their seven principles, and you sit in the pyramid for an hour.
[00:52:22]  It's nice, actually.
[00:52:24]  They have peacocks roaming the grounds.
[00:52:26]  There are like you get kind of cognizant of the fact that there's a mummified human being in a sarcophagus inside the pyramid with you, and that's Corky Raw or Summum Bonum Amon Ra, which was his name in his final incarnation.
[00:52:42]  Corky.
[00:52:43]  Corky.
[00:52:44]  Corky Raw.
[00:52:44]  Corky Raw.
[00:52:45]  Yeah, you should.
[00:52:46]  You really don't hear that name.
[00:52:47]  You know, Corky Raws.
[00:52:50]  Pinchonian gets turned.
[00:52:52]  Pinchin-esque or Pinchonian, whatever, gets thrown around a lot.
[00:52:56]  I think mostly inaccurately.
[00:52:58]  Corky Raw does feel like a Pynchon character.
[00:53:02]  Part of why I write nonfiction is honestly because I can just walk around and like shit is so weird.
[00:53:08]  Well, especially there.
[00:53:09]  Oh, God.
[00:53:10]  It's amazing.
[00:53:11]  But really everywhere.
[00:53:12]  That's the thing is, you know, you are right about that.
[00:53:16]  It's getting weirder in different ways, in some ways that are not as charming as maybe ways of the past.
[00:53:21]  But there is so much weird shit in this fucking country.
[00:53:24]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:53:25]  I mean, and just everywhere.
[00:53:26]  And I'm a magnet for it and kind of seek it out too.
[00:53:31]  But okay, so they mummify people.
[00:53:33]  Then they also, and this is like, I'm down there kind of for, I'm doing a paper on it for my American literary ethnography class.
[00:53:40]  And then like, I'm also like kind of, Corky died in 2008, or he transitioned to his next state.
[00:53:46]  Yeah.
[00:53:47]  And so, you know, he's been mummified there since 2008.
[00:53:50]  But they've kept going.
[00:53:52]  And that's like kind of impressive.
[00:53:53]  There's like four people.
[00:53:54]  Two of them are Morticians, Sue, Bernie, Ron, and Chris.
[00:54:00]  And there's something touching about that to me.
[00:54:03]  That they're keeping it going.

=== Principles and Pairings (03:11) ===

[00:54:04]  Is there a scheme involved?
[00:54:05]  Is there any kind of pyramid scheme involved in this?
[00:54:08]  Well, they sell wine that they make inside, or no, it's called nectar publications.
[00:54:14]  And it's wine that they make inside the pyramid.
[00:54:17]  They won a Supreme Court case to be able to get a winery license, the first that Utah had issued to anyone other than Brigham Young.
[00:54:24]  This is real.
[00:54:26]  And so they make wine in the pyramid.
[00:54:28]  So they make wine in the pyramid that they infuse with their intentions through meditation while around it.
[00:54:33]  And it's called nectar publications because it's not really wine.
[00:54:37]  It's a spiritual text that you ingest through your mouth and belly rather than through your eyes the way you would ingest a book's text.
[00:54:47]  So I think I want everyone right now, especially if you're driving, to just, you know, put on that fucking phone and go to summum.us.
[00:54:56]  That's S-U-M-M-U-M.us.
[00:54:59]  And you scroll down and there's kind of a nice, beautiful little 3D rendering of a granite slab or whatever.
[00:55:07]  I don't know.
[00:55:07]  I guess that's that granite.
[00:55:09]  A some kind of slab that has the principles of creation.
[00:55:14]  These are their seven principles of summum.
[00:55:17]  Yes.
[00:55:18]  And so some tried to get these installed alongside the Ten Commandments in some park in Utah.
[00:55:23]  That was the Supreme Court case they lost.
[00:55:26]  Yeah.
[00:55:27]  How come?
[00:55:28]  Because, well, because, you know, the court hates religious freedom, frankly.
[00:55:34]  But I'm reading these right now.
[00:55:36]  And so the seven principles, I'll just read the seven principles.
[00:55:38]  The principle of psychokinesis.
[00:55:40]  Summum is mind.
[00:55:41]  The universe is a mental creation, fact.
[00:55:44]  The principle of correspondence, it's number two.
[00:55:46]  As above, so below.
[00:55:47]  As above, so above.
[00:55:49]  Okay, I heard that one before.
[00:55:50]  Three, the principle of vibration.
[00:55:52]  Nothing rests.
[00:55:53]  Everything moves.
[00:55:54]  Everything vibrates.
[00:55:55]  Fair enough.
[00:55:56]  Four, the principle is opposition.
[00:55:57]  Everything is dual.
[00:55:58]  Everything has an opposing point.
[00:56:00]  Everything has its pair of opposites.
[00:56:01]  Like and unlike are the same.
[00:56:03]  Opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree.
[00:56:06]  Extremes bond.
[00:56:07]  All truths are but partial truths.
[00:56:09]  Paradoxes may be reconciled.
[00:56:12]  Okay, flirting with the dialectic.
[00:56:13]  There are five.
[00:56:14]  The principle of rhythm.
[00:56:15]  Everything flows out and in.
[00:56:17]  Everything has its season.
[00:56:18]  All things rise and falls.
[00:56:19]  The pendulum swing expresses itself in everything.
[00:56:22]  The measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left.
[00:56:25]  The rhythm compensates.
[00:56:26]  I've told people that before.
[00:56:28]  The principles of cause and effect.
[00:56:31]  Every cause has its effect.
[00:56:32]  Okay.
[00:56:33]  Well, every effect has its cause.
[00:56:34]  All right.
[00:56:35]  Everything happens according to law.
[00:56:37]  Chance is just a name for law, not recognized.
[00:56:39]  There are many.
[00:56:40]  I know.
[00:56:41]  Chance is just a name for law, not recognized.
[00:56:44]  Especially if you have a kid named chance.
[00:56:46]  There are many fields of causation, but nothing escapes the law of destiny.
[00:56:50]  That's a true and honorable right there.
[00:56:52]  The principles of gender, the final rule.
[00:56:54]  Gender is in everything.
[00:56:55]  Everything has its masculine and feminine principles.
[00:56:58]  Gender manifests at all levels.
[00:57:01]  That's kind of like New Age Mao.
[00:57:03]  Yeah.
[00:57:04]  Well, it's if you were a divorced guy in Salt Lake City, Utah in 1975 and you wanted to meet ladies, tell you what.
[00:57:13]  You're like, gender's in everything, baby.

=== Rosicrucian Sexual Ecstasy (15:11) ===

[00:57:15]  When did they build the pyramid?
[00:57:18]  They built the pyramid, I think, in like 1980.
[00:57:22]  Oh, wow.
[00:57:22]  That's a good year to build a pyramid.
[00:57:25]  Yeah.
[00:57:25]  When did they build the one in Memphis?
[00:57:27]  That one was 1991 during the reign of Pharaoh Bush I.
[00:57:33]  So it was really, it's one of the, it's one of the, because you know a lot more about pyramids in the U.S. than I do.
[00:57:41]  I'm fixated on them.
[00:57:42]  Is this, I mean, was this the most major pyramid until the Memphis pyramid was erected?
[00:57:49]  Well, no, because probably the most major pyramid would have been the 1868 Confederate war dead pyramid in the Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond, Virginia.
[00:57:58]  True, I've been there.
[00:58:00]  Yeah, 100 foot tall.
[00:58:01]  The capstone was put on by a prisoner at the prison plantation that was just down the street.
[00:58:10]  So it was a signal about how much it changed after the Civil War in Richmond, Virginia.
[00:58:15]  Yeah.
[00:58:16]  With the prison plantation, it was filled with Southern troops.
[00:58:19]  No, that's not how it worked, actually.
[00:58:22]  Yeah.
[00:58:22]  Oh.
[00:58:23]  Yeah.
[00:58:24]  It's still there.
[00:58:25]  I don't like that.
[00:58:26]  Yeah.
[00:58:30]  The pyramid, you said you meet in it.
[00:58:33]  So it has a door.
[00:58:34]  Yeah, it's like a garage door thing.
[00:58:35]  It comes up.
[00:58:37]  And that's where all their live streams are from.
[00:58:39]  Not their live streams.
[00:58:39]  Yes, which you can watch on some of them TV.
[00:58:42]  And sometimes I'm in them.
[00:58:43]  Like if I lean forward to the most recent ones.
[00:58:46]  Yes, you are.
[00:58:46]  You are.
[00:58:47]  You are.
[00:58:48]  Yeah.
[00:58:48]  I'm like, oh, that's me.
[00:58:49]  Paying attention to Sue.
[00:58:51]  What do you do in there?
[00:58:53]  I just sit there for an hour inside a pyramid, man, and absorb the vibes.
[00:58:56]  How did you even come across this?
[00:58:58]  Were you just like, you walked around and you were like, what's up with that pyramid?
[00:59:01]  No, I've been like when I first got to Salt Lake City, the first two places I went were to Gilgal Sculpture Garden to see the Joseph Smith Sphinx, which is a like six-foot-tall Sphinx that looks like Joseph Smith in the face.
[00:59:15]  It's got to, yeah, I was going to say it's got to be looking like him.
[00:59:18]  So that's awesome.
[00:59:18]  You're going to make your own Sphinx.
[00:59:20]  Yeah.
[00:59:20]  And then I went to like see the thing because I had gotten into American Pyramids.
[00:59:26]  And so I looked up like where they all were.
[00:59:28]  And then I knew all, like, I knew quite a bit about the summon before I went because it's kind of right up my alley.
[00:59:38]  Do they have any connection to like the Rosicrucians?
[00:59:40]  Because that's the other big sort of like I would say Egyptian inflected group that I can think of.
[00:59:46]  I'm so glad you asked, actually, because I'm doing my oral report for my James Joyce class tomorrow on James Joyce and the Rosicrucians.
[00:59:54]  Is he a Rosicrucian?
[00:59:56]  Well, he uses Rosicrucian themes throughout Dubliner's Portrait of the Artist of the Young Man and Ulysses.
[01:00:04]  And if you look at the names in Ulysses, Molly Bloom and Leopold Bloom, Bloom is Rose.
[01:00:10]  Bloom comes from the Hungarian Virag, which is flower, which would also be from the East, similar to Christian Rosencrantz's journey.
[01:00:18]  Plus, Bloom's Day takes place on the day that William Butler Yates got installed as the magus of the Dublin temple.
[01:00:31]  And so I think it might have been Joyce's way of fucking with William Butler Yates, too, because Butler Yates took all that shit really seriously and James Joyce probably didn't.
[01:00:40]  Yeah, I'd never read James Joyce before.
[01:00:42]  He's pretty good.
[01:00:44]  Yeah, people seem to like him.
[01:00:45]  People like him.
[01:00:46]  Probably because it's a Rosicrucian conspiracy.
[01:00:48]  I mean, some of their stuff is similar because a lot of the like some of them stuff has relation to the Kabbalion, which was translated in 1907 and is like a Greek Egyptian hermetic text.
[01:01:04]  And so, yeah, it has a lot of, that's why it sounds so familiar is because it's drawing from the same well.
[01:01:10]  So for people who don't know, can you explain who the Rosicrucians are?
[01:01:13]  Yeah, the Rosicrucians were a secret society that announced itself in 1610 by a series of three anonymous manifestos, Frama Fraternatus, Confessio Fraternatus, and the chemical wedding of Christian Rosencrantz.
[01:01:30]  This was during the time the Palatinate in Germany was kind of under the Jacobin English influence, and they hoped to be able to beat the Catholics, but the Catholics came back with the Jesuits.
[01:01:44]  And so the Rosicrucians were kind of like sent over.
[01:01:48]  John Dee may have been a Rosicrucian.
[01:01:51]  Thomas Jefferson, the current Rosicrucians in California, who I believe were pretenders founded by the CIA, like say, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin and Washington, were all Rosicrucians but it was like in the air at the time so it's kind of like proto-illuminati stuff.
[01:02:10]  But they're good.
[01:02:10]  They're supposed to be like healer monks that um can live forever and like don't accept payment for their services.
[01:02:18]  I knew a Rosicrucian and he was like a garage rock dj and he had the floppiest hats of anyone I've ever seen.
[01:02:28]  He was like, he was sort of like, because there's different kinds of guys out there.
[01:02:33]  This is like a California Rosicrucian.
[01:02:35]  A California Rosicrucian.
[01:02:36]  He wore, he sort of wore like, I would say he dressed like a dandy.
[01:02:42]  Yes.
[01:02:42]  Like he wore like, in my head, he had spats.
[01:02:45]  He probably didn't, but he had some kind of like Renaissance floppy hat that he would wear or like whatever.
[01:02:51]  He played the fucking, I don't know what, the standells or something.
[01:02:55]  But, but he claimed to be a Rosicrucian, but I think he just liked, I don't know, I think he just liked sort of silly stuff.
[01:03:01]  He was a bit of like a Renaissance spirit guy.
[01:03:03]  He worked at KO Books, which is one of my favorite bookstores in the Bay Area, but they had a Rosicrucian museum.
[01:03:09]  It's still in San Jose in San Jose, and which I do encourage everyone to visit because I myself have never been there.
[01:03:16]  Or if I have, I can't remember.
[01:03:18]  I might have at some point.
[01:03:19]  But it's filled with sort of Egyptian objects that are maybe made of plaster in San Jose.
[01:03:29]  Yes.
[01:03:30]  And do you know who was taking correspondence courses from those Rosicrucians back in the 70s?
[01:03:36]  No, not me.
[01:03:37]  Not me.
[01:03:37]  I wasn't born in the 70s.
[01:03:39]  But a gentleman named Sirhan Sirhan.
[01:03:42]  True.
[01:03:43]  He was.
[01:03:46]  But again, I don't think, I think that is a like intelligence community, like mind control front like Jim Jones, you know.
[01:03:55]  Tell us about the summum wine or the nectar.
[01:03:59]  The nectar publication.
[01:04:01]  So they have the tank in the pyramid.
[01:04:03]  You can kind of see it.
[01:04:05]  And I guess whenever they decide to make wine, they sit around and meditate on the wine and infuse it with certain like characteristics, right?
[01:04:14]  So for like the nectar publication sexual ecstasy, I imagine that they think sexy thoughts.
[01:04:23]  Well, I'm looking at this right now.
[01:04:25]  There's a sort of also sort of early 2000s missed style representation of two bottles of wine.
[01:04:32]  It says nectar of the gods.
[01:04:34]  The summum nectar publications are created within the womb of a pyramid and used in a practice of mental and spiritual development.
[01:04:42]  Yeah.
[01:04:43]  Yeah.
[01:04:43]  Have some wine.
[01:04:44]  You'll feel good.
[01:04:45]  But it's sexual.
[01:04:46]  It's supposed to be, it's a little bit.
[01:04:47]  Well, some of them are.
[01:04:49]  Some of them are because they also have the sexual enhancement product MR, which has the best advertisement I've ever seen.
[01:04:57]  Jesus is Jesus Christ.
[01:04:58]  Well, they gave the MR after, right?
[01:05:01]  Yeah.
[01:05:02]  So they have, but that's, that's like their other product.
[01:05:05]  So they have the one, but like the, I misunderstood.
[01:05:09]  I thought you were saying that, I thought you were saying MIR had a great advertisement as a sexual enhancement because the three wise men provided, one of them provided it after Jesus Christ's birth.
[01:05:19]  And that's a great advertisement for sex because obviously, you know, Jesus Christ is born from that union.
[01:05:26]  But, but you're saying that some of them has a great ad for it.
[01:05:30]  Yes, yeah.
[01:05:32]  That I will like, I'll send you.
[01:05:33]  It's really, I mean, it's computer rendering and it's fantastic.
[01:05:37]  But so all the nectar publications are not sexual ecstasy nectar publications, but all of the myrrh is a sexual ecstasy product.
[01:05:48]  Some of the other nectar publications might be for meditation, not just sexy time.
[01:05:54]  Where are they getting the grapes?
[01:05:57]  There's grapes growing outside my apartment right now.
[01:05:59]  But do they, I mean, are they growing their own grapes?
[01:06:02]  Yeah, they've gotten into a lawsuit with a real estate developer because they're trying to build an apartment near the vacant lot where they grow grapes and other vegetables.
[01:06:12]  Okay.
[01:06:12]  Oh, they have street grape?
[01:06:14]  They sure do.
[01:06:16]  What kind of grapes?
[01:06:17]  I think red.
[01:06:19]  And I think they do a white too.
[01:06:21]  I'm not a drinker, so I don't know.
[01:06:24]  I'm curious what kind of grapes are growing in.
[01:06:26]  So the mummification process.
[01:06:30]  Right.
[01:06:31]  Have they like, I mean, I was looking on their website.
[01:06:33]  The modern mummification process.
[01:06:35]  TM.
[01:06:36]  Yes.
[01:06:36]  True, true.
[01:06:37]  The modern mummification process.
[01:06:39]  I was sort of shocked at the price, although maybe I shouldn't be.
[01:06:43]  But mummification, it says on their site, the current cost for mummification services are $67,000 plus.
[01:06:50]  And then if you go down to the bottom, there's a little bit of a footnote.
[01:06:53]  It says it's more if you're really large within the continental United States.
[01:06:58]  So it's $67,000.
[01:07:01]  And that's just for the mummification.
[01:07:04]  That doesn't include a sarcophagus, which they say can run to hundreds of thousands of dollars, depending on how bejeweled you make it.
[01:07:12]  Yeah.
[01:07:13]  And says you're paternal tone.
[01:07:15]  Like Nick Cage's pyramid.
[01:07:17]  You would want it to be bejeweled, wouldn't you?
[01:07:19]  Of course.
[01:07:19]  If you're going to do the whole thing.
[01:07:21]  So the actual cost, like $67 is baseline.
[01:07:24]  That's for getting like dunked in the salt tank, wrapped in gauze, and ready to be put into your sarcophagus.
[01:07:34]  I mean, it's also, you know, very few people, it seems, are working on this process.
[01:07:38]  So, you know, it's going to take a lot.
[01:07:41]  I mean, yeah, because they have to meditate on you.
[01:07:43]  They have to read out your living will while you do it, you know, to help your spirit essence go to like the place it needs to go.
[01:07:51]  Is this popular?
[01:07:52]  Are people getting, are people going mummy mode?
[01:07:54]  I don't know.
[01:07:55]  I think it's popular with pets.
[01:07:57]  Like, I think a lot of people get their pets mummified, but I don't know.
[01:08:01]  I know Corky was the first one to get mummified after they had gotten done experimenting with the process with according to with bodies purchased from the university, you know, as one.
[01:08:16]  Yeah, I saw the process.
[01:08:18]  That's a good idea.
[01:08:20]  They currently have their pets program is on hold until 2026.
[01:08:25]  But I've seen, I know they must be, maybe they have a backlog, but I've seen a lot of pictures of the pets that they've mummified.
[01:08:32]  It's unnerving because it does sort of look like a cartoon mummified cat or something.
[01:08:38]  No, I mean, is it all wrapped in yes?
[01:08:40]  They wrap it in DAWs.
[01:08:42]  And the modern part is that they fill you with like a resin, like a plastic resin.
[01:08:48]  And so you're kind of encased in leucite, which I have, I'm having trouble getting past.
[01:08:53]  A friend explained to me that the Egyptians would also rub like a resin from cedar onto you.
[01:08:59]  So it would have a similar like that actually is on brand.
[01:09:02]  And I went to a funeral in Ohio for my buddy recently.
[01:09:07]  And like, I don't know, while I was there too, I had to be like, well, I don't know.
[01:09:11]  All the stuff we do around death is kind of weird.
[01:09:14]  Right.
[01:09:15]  So like, I was like, yeah, maybe the mummification isn't so weird.
[01:09:18]  But it's kind of weird.
[01:09:20]  I think it's as in theoretically, it's not weird.
[01:09:24]  But I think in practice in Utah by Sue and whoever else, maybe it's a little weird.
[01:09:30]  Well, Sue doesn't do mummification.
[01:09:31]  It's Bernie and Ron.
[01:09:34]  Right.
[01:09:34]  Yeah.
[01:09:35]  Well, I mean, I guess, you know, I think about this because I've been to like open casket funerals or whatever before.
[01:09:40]  And like, let's not pretend that that's not weird.
[01:09:43]  That's what I mean.
[01:09:44]  I mean, remember when Charlie Kirk's.
[01:09:46]  Yeah, except when something that we don't know what happened yet happened to Charlie Kirk on September 10th and he passed or did he.
[01:09:52]  I think Bernie was maybe working on some more experimental procedures.
[01:09:56]  Oh, you think, oh, you think that Bernie and Ron are trying a new version?
[01:10:01]  No, not Bernie.
[01:10:02]  No.
[01:10:03]  He's nice.
[01:10:03]  But maybe a fan of the other Bernie did it.
[01:10:06]  No, I mean, Bernie Sanders probably.
[01:10:09]  Oh, yeah.
[01:10:10]  Oh, yeah.
[01:10:10]  But when Charlie Kirk had an incident and perished, his wife, and I thought this was so strange.
[01:10:20]  Erica Kirk.
[01:10:21]  Erica Kirk.
[01:10:24]  I thought this was very odd.
[01:10:25]  His wife posted a video of her or somebody else taking the video of her sort of next to his, I will say Homer Simpson yellow hand kind of like crying over it and petting it in this sort of open casket thing.
[01:10:39]  And obviously, yes, one is like, okay, I don't, whatever you want to do to the button, not anything, but whatever, mostly whatever you want to do to the body afterwards, that's your husband, do your thing.
[01:10:49]  But it is strange to post.
[01:10:52]  But then also, like, the skin is so sort of jaundiced, ultra-jaundiced, that it is unnerving looking.
[01:10:58]  And so you have to wonder, it's like, well, I guess why not get mummified?
[01:11:02]  You know what I mean?
[01:11:03]  Like, we can still do open casket, but this time it's got a little bit of like, it's like going to the Met or something, but it's at Bryce's funeral.
[01:11:10]  You know what I mean?
[01:11:11]  Like, I'm there.
[01:11:12]  I'm bejeweled.
[01:11:13]  I've sort of got, of course, like.
[01:11:15]  No, the Met has a lot of mummies.
[01:11:17]  I'm saying the Met has a lot of mummies.
[01:11:19]  Imagine if she had posted that video, but it was like open mummy casket.
[01:11:23]  And so you just had Charlie Kirk, like with his hands straight out, all mummy wrapped.
[01:11:29]  And that's what we saw instead of it being this little like yellow hand.
[01:11:33]  I think that might have worked better for her.
[01:11:35]  You go to these meditations with these new age people and there's just the dead body of their founder in a bronze casket or not casket.
[01:11:43]  Well, alive, but in a different state body.
[01:11:46]  Is that how they classify it?
[01:11:48]  I don't know.
[01:11:49]  Probably.
[01:11:50]  But yes, that.
[01:11:51]  And then there's like eight cats and like eight dogs.
[01:11:56]  And of course the peacocks.
[01:11:57]  And the peacocks.
[01:11:58]  And then there's.
[01:11:59]  Those are alive.
[01:12:00]  The peacocks are alive.
[01:12:03]  But the cats inside the like mummiform sculptures are not.
[01:12:09]  And then on the altar, the altar kind of looks like, I don't know how to delicately say this, but like two dicks in the shape of a banana.
[01:12:19]  And then it has candles up from it.
[01:12:22]  And then in front of it are a bunch of crystal dicks and balls that point out.

=== Skull and Bones Rituals (15:43) ===

[01:12:27]  Do you get the impression that people make love to each other in this pyramid on occasion?
[01:12:30]  I've only been on Wednesday nights.
[01:12:32]  They have Saturday night meetings.
[01:12:35]  But they're all in their mid-60s.
[01:12:42]  But I know that's what I'm saying.
[01:12:46]  That makes some people hornier.
[01:12:48]  Yeah.
[01:12:48]  But even before.
[01:12:51]  They feature it at the pyramid.
[01:12:53]  Exactly.
[01:12:54]  I mean, the pyramid, you know, obviously some of us have, you know, for some of us, that's a phallic representation.
[01:13:01]  But I'm like, I get the feeling that there was a lot of lovemaking going on in this pyramid at some point that's probably petered out as age has gone old.
[01:13:12]  You're the youngest.
[01:13:13]  You're the youngest attendee, no?
[01:13:15]  Yeah.
[01:13:15]  I mean, that I've seen.
[01:13:18]  Would they be happy if younger people, can you just go?
[01:13:21]  Yeah, I mean, you have to email them.
[01:13:22]  I couldn't go.
[01:13:23]  Actually, I couldn't go last week because the pyramid was going to be full with a bunch of students from Utah Valley University where Charlie Kirk was martyred.
[01:13:34]  Wow.
[01:13:35]  The Shaheed Charlie Kirk.
[01:13:37]  It is how, you know, how cyclical these things are.
[01:13:42]  Everything is psychokinesis.
[01:13:44]  Everything is.
[01:13:45]  Correspondence.
[01:13:47]  It's all gender.
[01:13:48]  My God.
[01:13:49]  I will say, part of my ulterior motives for having you on today is because we've been talking about this.
[01:13:55]  And I'm like, if you are some kind of literary agent, you got to get, I need a book from Matt on American Pyramids.
[01:14:04]  It's waiting to be written.
[01:14:05]  Geronimo is buried under a pyramid with an eagle on top that the head is knocked off of occasionally in a similar way to how I believe Prescott Bush dug up Geronimo's body, stole his skull, and brought it back to Skull and Bones.
[01:14:23]  And that's one of my big issues is I think that happened in 1917.
[01:14:29]  I think if we could get Geronimo's skull reunited properly with his body the way that the Fort Silapachi have tried to have happen, maybe the curse will lift.
[01:14:40]  Why shouldn't we try it?
[01:14:41]  Did you read that article about how like Skull and Bones or whatever?
[01:14:44]  I think it was Skull and Bones is like woke now.
[01:14:47]  Woke Skull and Bones.
[01:14:48]  Yeah, there was a lot of people.
[01:14:49]  Do they still masturbate in coffins?
[01:14:51]  Dude, I think it's like, well, first of all, all young people are on this type of SSRIs that prevent that from even being an option.
[01:14:59]  But second of all, I'm like half remembering an article that I like quickly read.
[01:15:03]  So if I'm wrong on any of this.
[01:15:05]  Oh, the crackpot one I wrote for y'all.
[01:15:08]  No, that wasn't.
[01:15:09]  I read about Skull and Bones.
[01:15:10]  You did write about Skull.
[01:15:11]  No, no, there was like an article in like a, like, whatever, NEW YORK Magazine or one of these things about how like they have women in it now and now it's woke like, it's like less of the old boys club, but I'm like, if they still have Geronimo's skull yeah, how woke are you?
[01:15:28]  I mean, I think generally, if you're masturbating in a coffin next to Geronimo's skull while you're a senior at YALE and that's your Thursday night, like you know, are you in the coffin by yourself or is it into the coffin?
[01:15:45]  You're in the coffin.
[01:15:46]  The way I understand it Liz, you think you masturbate into a coffin like the muscle.
[01:15:51]  That's a good question.
[01:15:51]  I don't think anything that's really discussing.
[01:15:54]  It could be, it could be biscuit, but with the initiate neophyte in the in the coffin right okay, the way that uh, Osarisis like masturbated and created the world or whatever right, I could see that.
[01:16:07]  But no, in the coffin recounting your entire sexual History while all of your skull and bones friends are around you in robes listening.
[01:16:20]  Pause on that, but I guess that's not that different to Scientology.
[01:16:24]  I have masturbated in closed spaces like airplane bathrooms.
[01:16:27]  And then when I lost my virginity, every single person I knew was outside the door.
[01:16:31]  So if I just combine those two, if they combine those two, it's basically that.
[01:16:36]  Well, I mean, you know, you should contact Skull and Bones, see if that counts.
[01:16:39]  Yeah.
[01:16:40]  You should get in on that.
[01:16:41]  I just started Skull and Bones chapter at CUNY out here.
[01:16:43]  Now that you've been in the Times, anything is possible.
[01:16:46]  GQ.
[01:16:47]  Just be like, you know, I will be the best looking guy masturbating in the coffin you've ever had.
[01:16:54]  Now's the time to pitch it to the Times.
[01:16:56]  He's probably got a damn vegetarian coffin now.
[01:16:59]  It's true.
[01:16:59]  That's, you know, Charles, the pretender king of England, was anointed with vegan oil.
[01:17:09]  Did you know this?
[01:17:11]  No.
[01:17:12]  No, he did that.
[01:17:13]  What do you think of his portrait?
[01:17:15]  Well, I think it signals the long and bloody history of the family he comes from.
[01:17:19]  Sure.
[01:17:19]  So I kind of like it in that regard.
[01:17:21]  I think it's great.
[01:17:22]  You know, did you know that, okay, so my family's from Idaho and from a little town, Burley, and my dad's from up in the hills in Hegler.
[01:17:32]  And between Burley and Hegler is a place called Cottrill Polo Farms, and it's owned by the Skaggs family.
[01:17:40]  And it's the place you come to buy.
[01:17:43]  Queen Elizabeth came in 2005 to buy polo ponies there.
[01:17:48]  And it's where like the polo club of Manhattan Beach and the Polo Club of like Greenwich, Connecticut will fly in to have a friendly polo match.
[01:17:56]  And no one knows about it.
[01:17:59]  And when I, you know, I got my divorce a couple years ago and I was camping out on the farm hiding out and old man Skaggs had died and the Oak Ridge boys were up there to like play for you know the memorial service.
[01:18:13]  I went on Tinder and I'll tell you what like it was like southern Idaho is high desert and a lot of people are Mormon and so it was pretty dry on the Tinder right that night the night of old man Skaggs' funeral at the polo farm where the Queen of England bought her polo ponies so Many like model hot women.
[01:18:40]  I couldn't believe it.
[01:18:41]  I just scrolled through like 20 or 30.
[01:18:44]  I couldn't believe it.
[01:18:45]  And I was like, so that's a farm where they breed polo ponies.
[01:18:50]  Well, and that's it.
[01:18:51]  But you were camping on the farm at the time.
[01:18:53]  I was camping on my dad's farm, like on our family farm, which is 11 miles away.
[01:18:59]  Oh, so because I was like, how do you even, how do you even make the first text?
[01:19:03]  And you're like, hey, I'm actually kind of crashing out on like a hidden nook.
[01:19:07]  Yeah, no, none of them.
[01:19:08]  None of them texted the like 5'11 40-year-old guy that was getting a divorce in a hammock outside of a shed.
[01:19:18]  They should have.
[01:19:19]  You know, they should have.
[01:19:20]  I would have showed him a better time than maybe a coffin or two.
[01:19:24]  And, you know, I mean, how else are they going to?
[01:19:27]  We could have discovered myrrh together.
[01:19:30]  Ladies and gentlemen, I have to say, honestly, my favorite guest.
[01:19:36]  Thank you.
[01:19:37]  You know what?
[01:19:37]  I want you guys to come out to Salt Lake City.
[01:19:39]  If I can arrange with the Pyramid people to do a live True Anon broadcast from inside the Pyramid, dude, actually, we should do that.
[01:19:48]  I am not even joking.
[01:19:49]  I would be very down to do that.
[01:19:52]  Okay, it would be cool.
[01:19:53]  Yeah.
[01:19:54]  Yeah.
[01:19:54]  I would love that.
[01:19:55]  And I want this to be clear.
[01:19:56]  I have affection for like these, like the people I've met there, and I find it really interesting.
[01:20:02]  Actually, I want to make a point right now and say, there's a, I feel like maybe people think that we, we mock people on the show.
[01:20:10]  We do mock some people.
[01:20:12]  But for people like this, I genuinely do have great affection.
[01:20:15]  Yeah, they're doing something nobody else is doing in America.
[01:20:17]  They're mummifying people.
[01:20:21]  Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Farwell, you can find him at The Hunt for Tom Clancy.
[01:20:27]  It's a sub stack.
[01:20:28]  Where else?
[01:20:28]  Is there anything else I can find you?
[01:20:30]  I've written for almost every major publication you can think of and then quit.
[01:20:35]  Find you there.
[01:20:35]  They can't like email the New Republic and be like, where's Matt at?
[01:20:38]  Yeah.
[01:20:40]  I am.
[01:20:40]  It's not going so well.
[01:20:41]  I'm a 41-year-old guy that's, no, shit, I'm 42.
[01:20:47]  It's 5'11 in Italian.
[01:20:49]  Why are you saying 5'11?
[01:20:51]  Six foot is a cutoff.
[01:20:52]  Liz knows this.
[01:20:53]  She's like smiling right there.
[01:20:55]  But Matt, you have to understand.
[01:20:57]  I know this.
[01:20:58]  You know, for other, I'm not saying for you.
[01:21:00]  I don't believe you're that superficial, but I do believe that for a segment, online dating is different than it was before I got to the data.
[01:21:07]  I didn't know that they, so I like missed the whole app thing.
[01:21:11]  Yeah.
[01:21:11]  Yeah.
[01:21:12]  And just the way the stars aligned.
[01:21:15]  And so I didn't know that they introduced a whole height thing to that.
[01:21:19]  You got to be over six feet and not holding a fish.
[01:21:22]  Well, you don't have to be, but now people can segment away like based on height.
[01:21:26]  It's eugenics.
[01:21:27]  Can you do it's eugenics through tender?
[01:21:29]  So you knew what?
[01:21:31]  I was just going to say, because like I have, I have what has been called Samwise Gamgee and height, right?
[01:21:40]  I'm right at the sweet spot of 5'1.
[01:21:43]  So you can go on roller coasters.
[01:21:45]  So I can go.
[01:21:46]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:21:47]  I can go on roller coasters, but I can also eat from the kids' menu.
[01:21:51]  And then also, sometimes females think I have any melanocas disease.
[01:21:56]  Unless on clothes.
[01:21:58]  Well, no, actually, Liz, I have to spend a lot on clothes because I do mostly sort of play up the Hobbit thing in case, you know, somebody watch Lord of the Rings or their dad or whatever.
[01:22:08]  And so I do often wear sort of tunics and things of that nature.
[01:22:11]  Do you have chainmail?
[01:22:12]  But well, the Hobbit is a little bit more of a peaceful creature.
[01:22:17]  The chainmail, I think, is defensive.
[01:22:19]  And sexy.
[01:22:20]  Yeah, brain hobbiting.
[01:22:22]  Okay, it's defensive, but you're not wearing the chainmail unless you're like, I'm going to look for trouble.
[01:22:26]  No, that's not.
[01:22:26]  I wear my tiny.
[01:22:29]  I don't night hobbit anymore, Liz.
[01:22:30]  I don't fucking night.
[01:22:32]  No, I wear a tunic.
[01:22:33]  I wear a little hat.
[01:22:36]  Of course, no shoes.
[01:22:37]  Ela de Hobbit.
[01:22:38]  In the style of your Rosian friend.
[01:22:41]  I wear ragged, ragged little trousers cut off about nine inches before my ankle.
[01:22:49]  Sort of like Capri's.
[01:22:50]  Sort of actually about your thigh.
[01:22:52]  Yes, Of course, that's true, true.
[01:22:56]  And I wear those things because I want to show a lot.
[01:22:58]  There's a lot of really rude men out there.
[01:23:01]  And I want to show women that know, trust me.
[01:23:04]  I'm the kind of, I'm not like a dwarf, not like a goblin.
[01:23:06]  I'm the kind of hobbit you can trust.
[01:23:09]  But it is interesting.
[01:23:11]  5'11 is like, it's really 6'1.
[01:23:14]  Yeah.
[01:23:15]  So I mean, last time I was on your show, I got contacted by a listener who thought I was cute.
[01:23:21]  So just saying.
[01:23:23]  That's great.
[01:23:23]  Literary agents or anyone who likes me.
[01:23:27]  I didn't know they broadcast the podcast in Institutions for the Blind.
[01:23:34]  Thank you.
[01:23:35]  That's not nice.
[01:23:37]  That's not nice.
[01:23:37]  I didn't.
[01:23:37]  No, it is.
[01:23:38]  It is nice.
[01:23:39]  I hope that they do.
[01:23:41]  Did you know all the workers at the snack shops inside CIA headquarters, like in the clandestine areas, are legally blind?
[01:23:50]  Wait, are you?
[01:23:51]  No.
[01:23:52]  I'm serious.
[01:23:53]  They wear green jackets.
[01:23:56]  The workers in the snack shops in the CIA.
[01:23:58]  Yeah, like Starbucks.
[01:24:00]  Yeah, it makes sense.
[01:24:02]  Wow.
[01:24:03]  How do you make my matcha then?
[01:24:05]  By feel, dude.
[01:24:06]  I guess that is true.
[01:24:07]  And they blind them after like six years of working at like a regular Starbucks.
[01:24:11]  Someone should like a little like discrimination case against that.
[01:24:17]  You know what they should do?
[01:24:19]  Unless I'm blind.
[01:24:20]  They should just make them wear VR headsets so they see like some fucking crazy anime shit when they're serving you.
[01:24:26]  That would become porn so quickly.
[01:24:28]  Yeah, but isn't it all porn?
[01:24:30]  It's all porn.
[01:24:32]  It's all porn.
[01:24:32]  Anything that makes you horny is.
[01:24:34]  Matt, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:24:36]  And I'm not, I mean, I'm serious.
[01:24:38]  If you're a literary agent type, you got to get this book out there because I want to read it.
[01:24:43]  It all starts at the Baz Pro Pyramid.
[01:24:45]  Mr. Farwell, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:24:47]  Thank you for having me.
[01:24:48]  Genuinely always a pleasure.
[01:24:49]  you i wish our podcast had like a haptic feedback thing so we could shock listeners sometimes That sounds awful.
[01:25:12]  I mean, like one of those rides where it's like a screen and the, you know, the chairs move and everything.
[01:25:19]  Have you guys been?
[01:25:19]  But it's just our podcast.
[01:25:21]  Have you guys been to the to the, there's like movie theaters that like blow air in your face?
[01:25:26]  Dude, that sounds so insane.
[01:25:27]  I've never even, what do you know?
[01:25:30]  Who is doing that?
[01:25:31]  I don't know.
[01:25:32]  I think they did it for Dune.
[01:25:34]  I don't know anyone who's ever gone and told me about it at least.
[01:25:37]  I think they have, we should go to one.
[01:25:39]  I don't, I have a problem with even being on the couch in the movie theater.
[01:25:44]  Now they've got the movie theater couch seat.
[01:25:46]  You don't like it?
[01:25:47]  Oh, you mean the lay down, the lazy boy?
[01:25:49]  The lazy boys.
[01:25:50]  I'm like, this is not.
[01:25:52]  I get it.
[01:25:53]  I'm at big box American cinema, but man, you got to rub it in my face like this.
[01:25:58]  Like, come on.
[01:25:59]  Do you, do you guys, let me ask you this.
[01:26:01]  Do you guys let the piggies breathe?
[01:26:03]  No.
[01:26:04]  What?
[01:26:04]  What are you talking about?
[01:26:05]  Take your shoes off?
[01:26:06]  Do y'all let the piggies breathe in the movie theater?
[01:26:11]  I'm you're crazy.
[01:26:13]  No, I only sound crazy because you're saying that like that.
[01:26:16]  No, I don't take my shoes off at the movie theater.
[01:26:20]  Okay, well, then the rest of my questions, I'm slowly crossing out because if you're not doing that, you also want to know if I was raised in a barn.
[01:26:28]  No, I don't.
[01:26:29]  I'm not asking you that question.
[01:26:30]  I know the answer.
[01:26:31]  Yeah, I think it was already answered.
[01:26:33]  Asked and answered.
[01:26:34]  Yes, you were.
[01:26:36]  No, but I, you know, I go in.
[01:26:37]  It's like a fucking, you don't take your shoes off on the airplane?
[01:26:40]  No.
[01:26:40]  No, not unless I've brought a separate like little slippy.
[01:26:46]  What I, which is for long haul.
[01:26:48]  You're bringing a slippy on the plane.
[01:26:49]  I would bring a slippy on a long haul flight.
[01:26:51]  I would if it was overnight.
[01:26:53]  Every five or so years I buy slippers thinking I'm going to wear them.
[01:26:56]  And nope.
[01:26:56]  You don't wear, I wear little house slippers.
[01:26:59]  Yeah, no, I know, but I don't.
[01:27:00]  I don't.
[01:27:01]  I want to.
[01:27:02]  I have some, but I never put them on.
[01:27:04]  But on the airplane, just like the book in movie theater, I get in there, I unbutton.
[01:27:08]  Oh, yeah, I see.
[01:27:09]  Wow.
[01:27:10]  Those are interesting slippers, Liz.
[01:27:12]  Thanks.
[01:27:13]  I unbutton, I unbuckle, and I bounce those little fucking hratches off my feet.
[01:27:19]  Of course, no sock in sight.
[01:27:21]  And I'm just wiggling them little piggies up in the air, getting blasted by the Dune 4RDX or whatever.
[01:27:27]  Sticking them in the buttery popcorn.
[01:27:29]  I do.
[01:27:29]  I stick.
[01:27:30]  Well, what I do is I cut a hole at the bottom of the bag of popcorn and stick my big toe in.
[01:27:34]  Up?
[01:27:35]  From up?
[01:27:36]  From up under.
[01:27:37]  You don't dip down?
[01:27:38]  No, no, no.
[01:27:39]  I stick my big toe at the bottom of the hole in the bottom of the thing of popcorn.
[01:27:43]  But that's just a shocker when she puts her hands up.
[01:27:45]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:27:46]  She's trying to get the, it's not just she, it's both.
[01:27:48]  Because I always go with two females and they're both reaching in there to try to get it.
[01:27:52]  And you're so bummed when you see there's less popcorn, but there's a little, there's a little treat at the end.
[01:27:57]  There's a little treat at the end, and it's my big toe.
[01:28:00]  And they love it.
[01:28:02]  All right, let's get the fuck out of here.
[01:28:06]  This is a free episode, I believe.
[01:28:08]  So I will say this.
[01:28:10]  I will say this.

=== Treat at the End (01:07) ===

[01:28:11]  I genuinely am like, if you, I should be a fucking, dude, I wish I had every Jewish job.
[01:28:15]  I should be a litter agent.
[01:28:16]  You got to fucking master.
[01:28:18]  What are the other ones, Bryce?
[01:28:20]  You tell me.
[01:28:21]  You are the one who told me about this category to begin with.
[01:28:24]  I'm curious because you said you wanted all of them.
[01:28:26]  Tell me what are they?
[01:28:28]  Which ones are you thinking about?
[01:28:29]  Movie producer, music producer, regular producer, executive producer, financial strategist, financier.
[01:28:41]  Let's see, Shamrim, Shamrim Homicide Lieutenant.
[01:28:47]  You've talked about that one a lot.
[01:28:49]  Yep.
[01:28:49]  Let's see.
[01:28:50]  Elliot Gould.
[01:28:53]  Well, it's true that one will eventually replace him.
[01:28:56]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:28:58]  And I don't know.
[01:29:00]  That's basically it.
[01:29:01]  But I would just do so well in all of those.
[01:29:04]  You know, I just, I can.
[01:29:06]  You got the instincts.
[01:29:07]  But, Yeah.
[01:29:10]  Everyone, I'm Liz.
[01:29:12]  Mi nombre brace.
[01:29:14]  I'm Prussia Jong Chomsky.
[01:29:15]  And this has been Trunan.
[01:29:17]  We'll see you next time.