True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 445: ICE Age
Aired: 2025-03-20
Duration: 01:58:33


=== Everyone's Getting Fake Teeth (03:09) ===

[00:00:00]  How are people paying for these teeth?
[00:00:03]  This is so you well, everyone is getting fake teeth.
[00:00:07]  Everyone's getting dentures.
[00:00:08]  What do you mean by everyone when you say this?
[00:00:10]  You need to get in touch with Real America, which is TikTok.
[00:00:14]  I need to look in people's mouths more.
[00:00:16]  No.
[00:00:16]  Because I can't.
[00:00:17]  You can just go on your phone.
[00:00:18]  You don't need to go.
[00:00:19]  You don't have to get up in there.
[00:00:21]  Everyone has fake teeth.
[00:00:22]  And that means so.
[00:00:24]  Everyone's getting fake teeth.
[00:00:25]  And these teeth.
[00:00:26]  How much are they?
[00:00:27]  They're expensive.
[00:00:28]  50, 60, 70, 80, over 100.
[00:00:31]  $1,000.
[00:00:32]  What are people?
[00:00:33]  How are people.
[00:00:34]  Because I don't understand.
[00:00:35]  How does no one have any money, but they're buying fake teeth?
[00:00:38]  How do you magic of credit, by the way?
[00:00:41]  But you know what's crazy?
[00:00:42]  They have to like, you know, they like whittle down your real teeth.
[00:00:45]  I've seen, first of all, I've seen the pictures.
[00:00:48]  The nubs.
[00:00:49]  The nubs.
[00:00:50]  The Hunter Biden book I have released by Marco Polo.
[00:00:54]  Awful.
[00:00:55]  The book I have, which is the entire laptop in a book released by Marco Polo, who the U.S. original?
[00:01:02]  No, it's just obviously his Senator Something publishing company, which is also one of the only things that the current U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C. follows on Substack, the company that put out this book.
[00:01:14]  Oh my God, that guy.
[00:01:14]  But they replaced every picture of his penis with, they took out on Photoshop his half-done, like filed-down teeth picture.
[00:01:23]  I think that's scarier.
[00:01:25]  It's way more fucked up.
[00:01:26]  So I do know what the teeth look like.
[00:01:28]  Yes.
[00:01:29]  So they do that.
[00:01:30]  And then you get big buck teeth.
[00:01:33]  Because everyone's getting teeth that don't look right.
[00:01:35]  Also, because dentistry, I mean, don't get me started on the dentist.
[00:01:38]  I just went.
[00:01:39]  Which congratulations?
[00:01:40]  No.
[00:01:41]  You know what?
[00:01:42]  No, don't congratulate me.
[00:01:44]  I went.
[00:01:45]  I haven't been in several years.
[00:01:46]  Last time I went, the guy yanked a tooth out with pliers, I might add.
[00:01:52]  I don't think that's right.
[00:01:53]  He did.
[00:01:53]  He went, and I could feel it.
[00:01:54]  He yanked my head back and forth.
[00:01:56]  I'm not joking.
[00:01:56]  He did it.
[00:01:56]  It was in Glendale.
[00:01:58]  Like on the corner?
[00:01:59]  No, it's not in a clean.
[00:02:00]  His office, Liz.
[00:02:02]  I don't know.
[00:02:02]  He's an Armenian.
[00:02:03]  They have houses now.
[00:02:05]  Lots of them in that part of the world.
[00:02:07]  But I go to the dentist and they're like, you're fine.
[00:02:10]  And I don't, I was telling you guys earlier, I don't do anything.
[00:02:13]  I brush my teeth once, maybe twice a day.
[00:02:14]  I floss occasionally.
[00:02:16]  I do things that people, you know, I drill in there.
[00:02:19]  I smoke, but I'm fine.
[00:02:21]  But that's because you got the veneers.
[00:02:22]  I got the veneers.
[00:02:47]  It's a quack science.
[00:02:48]  I do believe that.
[00:02:49]  They are the worst.
[00:02:51]  I've always said this, and I'll say it again.
[00:02:53]  They are the worst of the PMC.
[00:02:57]  The dentist.
[00:02:58]  Are they PMC?
[00:02:59]  Yes, they are professionals, and they are certainly middle class.
[00:03:02]  But they're managing, but they're who they, I guess they're managing the people who work in the beautiful women who work in the offices, the beauties that work in there.

=== David Shore's Interview (04:42) ===

[00:03:10]  I'm retracting that.
[00:03:12]  I don't think they're beautiful.
[00:03:14]  I look at everyone the same.
[00:03:15]  My name is Bryce.
[00:03:15]  Hello, everyone.
[00:03:16]  I'm Liz.
[00:03:17]  Of course, joined by.
[00:03:18]  Purdue Young Chomsky.
[00:03:19]  I think they're beautiful.
[00:03:21]  Scratch that from the record.
[00:03:24]  We don't make comments on women's appearances on this show.
[00:03:27]  More importantly, this is Truanon.
[00:03:29]  Hello.
[00:03:30]  Hello.
[00:03:31]  Boy.
[00:03:32]  What?
[00:03:33]  just a lot of things are happening.
[00:03:35]  The world keeps...
[00:03:36]  Oh, come on.
[00:03:38]  What?
[00:03:38]  No, keep it in.
[00:03:39]  Keep it in.
[00:03:42]  Decline the call.
[00:03:44]  Who is it?
[00:03:44]  It's my father.
[00:03:46]  Oh, you should pick up.
[00:03:47]  Say hello.
[00:03:47]  No, I'm not doing that.
[00:03:50]  I'll say hello.
[00:03:51]  It's certainly not happening.
[00:03:53]  Temptress.
[00:03:56]  What is happening?
[00:03:57]  It's been about a week since we recorded.
[00:03:59]  Is that true?
[00:03:59]  It's been five days.
[00:04:00]  It's been six days since we recorded.
[00:04:02]  A lot has happened in the world.
[00:04:03]  Look at you.
[00:04:04]  Wow.
[00:04:05]  I'm sorry, guys.
[00:04:06]  I watched this morning.
[00:04:08]  We'll probably talk about this more in another episode.
[00:04:10]  This morning.
[00:04:10]  I didn't watch the Vance thing.
[00:04:12]  No, I didn't watch The Vance thing yet.
[00:04:14]  You sent it to me.
[00:04:15]  For you to watch it.
[00:04:16]  Oh, yeah.
[00:04:16]  I started watching it.
[00:04:18]  I watched David Shore being interviewed by Ezra Klein.
[00:04:21]  I still don't know who he is.
[00:04:22]  Which one?
[00:04:23]  David Shore.
[00:04:24]  Oh, my God.
[00:04:25]  Sweetheart.
[00:04:26]  I got a lot to please.
[00:04:26]  He's the data guy.
[00:04:28]  He's one of the data guys.
[00:04:29]  Yeah.
[00:04:29]  He's sort of like the better-looking Sean McKelvey.
[00:04:31]  Whereas Sean McKelvey is bloated and physically unnerving.
[00:04:36]  Yeah.
[00:04:37]  Shore is more, he looks like an Italian.
[00:04:40]  Would you say it's a classic fat guy, skinny guy combo?
[00:04:43]  Yeah, although I'm sure that, I mean, I'm sure that McKelvey has slimmed down with recent advances in science and stuff like that.
[00:04:50]  But yeah, definitely.
[00:04:51]  Shore is also more reputable.
[00:04:53]  He runs like a strategy firm or something.
[00:04:55]  But I'm telling you, battle lines are being drawn right now, Liz.
[00:04:59]  I know.
[00:05:00]  They are doing this abundance thing, which I'm sure is really going to work out.
[00:05:03]  We'll talk about it, I feel like.
[00:05:04]  Fellow liberals, but I just want to stake some ground out here.
[00:05:07]  Fellow liberals out there, because we are all liberal.
[00:05:12]  There's that.
[00:05:13]  There's your choice between that and liberal Hitler.
[00:05:16]  I think liberal Hitler is abundance.
[00:05:18]  Oh, there's abundance within liberal Hitler, but it's not the abundance ideology.
[00:05:22]  There is plenty in there, believe me.
[00:05:27]  But it's different than what Ezra Klein.
[00:05:30]  Very popular.
[00:05:31]  Very popular.
[00:05:32]  Well, not for long.
[00:05:34]  Ezra will take care of that.
[00:05:35]  Liberal Hitler.
[00:05:36]  I feel like the beard really helped Ezra with his favorables.
[00:05:42]  He doesn't have favorables.
[00:05:44]  I think he does.
[00:05:45]  There's no way.
[00:05:46]  I'm sure he's been.
[00:05:47]  Listeners, if you're out there and you're watching Ezra Klein or you're like listening to Ezra.
[00:05:50]  If you are a pollster, wouldn't you pull yourself?
[00:05:54]  That's like the pollster's temptation is like to add your own name in there.
[00:05:59]  The pollster's quest.
[00:06:01]  My favorables are really high with women, really low with men right now.
[00:06:05]  We should, David Shore, if you're listening, and I know you are, one, please explain to me who you are, because I still don't know.
[00:06:14]  Two, can we please poll Brace?
[00:06:17]  I think I would do well.
[00:06:19]  People like.
[00:06:20]  Yeah, you would do well to do a lot of things.
[00:06:21]  Yes, I would do well.
[00:06:24]  And there's maybe a little bit of a message.
[00:06:26]  Nope, I don't need to because there's nothing stuck in my teeth.
[00:06:28]  But there will be a reckoning coming.
[00:06:30]  Let me tell you that.
[00:06:31]  David Shore also has us blocked on Twitter.
[00:06:33]  And I've talked a lot of shit about him on this podcast.
[00:06:36]  I don't think he's going to poll me or he's going to.
[00:06:38]  Well, if you pay someone, that's how the contract works.
[00:06:41]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:06:41]  That's right, David Shore.
[00:06:42]  Dance for me.
[00:06:44]  Dance!
[00:06:45]  Show me your pussy, David Shore.
[00:06:49]  Move them breasts around.
[00:06:52]  Yes.
[00:06:52]  No, David Shore would dance for me.
[00:06:54]  I'll put a dollar in his thong.
[00:06:57]  Metaphorically, no, But I mean, no disrespect.
[00:07:02]  Today we are talking about something that Liz really wanted to talk about.
[00:07:06]  She's waiting until she takes it.
[00:07:07]  I'm waiting until you take a sip of water so I can finish saying it.
[00:07:09]  No, no, no.
[00:07:10]  You seem thirsty.
[00:07:12]  Take the sip of water.
[00:07:13]  Liz is a bottle of water to her mouth.
[00:07:15]  Just take the sip of water.
[00:07:17]  We're talking about the Jews today and Liz's big problems with what's happening and what they're doing.
[00:07:26]  We got to stop with this.
[00:07:28]  We got to stop.
[00:07:28]  It's not.
[00:07:30]  There's different people in power now.
[00:07:32]  Who would you say is in power?
[00:07:34]  Trump admit.
[00:07:36]  But who's really pulling the strings?
[00:07:38]  Like you told me earlier, who's really pulling the strings?
[00:07:41]  I'm joking right now, but now I'm like, who's really pulling the strings?
[00:07:47]  There is no Oz behind the curtains, which we'll talk about.
[00:07:51]  What is happening?

=== Flights, Orders, and Alien Enemies (10:19) ===

[00:07:52]  Okay, so last Saturday, just a few days ago, Trump released a proclamation, which I guess is different than an executive order, but I don't really know why.
[00:08:06]  A presidential proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1789.
[00:08:12]  Bryce, what is that?
[00:08:15]  I read it.
[00:08:16]  I mean, I actually read it a couple months ago, but I read it also yesterday.
[00:08:19]  And let me try to do this from memory.
[00:08:21]  It's basically being like, when you're at war with somebody and there's some people from that country, you can kind of do whatever you want to them.
[00:08:27]  Yes.
[00:08:27]  It was last used sort of famously to round up Japanese civilians for internment camps during World War II.
[00:08:33]  And also, like, we increased restrictions on Italians and Germans, but we didn't put them in camps.
[00:08:38]  I think we put like five of them in camps.
[00:08:42]  It's like essentially used, we're supposed to, you're supposed to use it to like make sure that like citizens of a country you're at war with are not running around in your in your country during wartime.
[00:08:54]  Yeah, I mean, even, you know, setting aside now, even before it was extremely controversial.
[00:09:01]  Yeah, we confiscated the like businesses and homes of like every Japanese person in California, all over, and then put them in concentration camps.
[00:09:12]  It's pretty famously shameful time in the nation's history.
[00:09:15]  So Trump is not doing that yet, but he did use it as justification for rounding up 250, about 250.
[00:09:23]  I think the number is like a little confusing Venezuelans that the White House claims are members of the Trendaragua.
[00:09:31]  Yeah.
[00:09:32]  So last year, this is like the gang that you've been hearing about for what, a year?
[00:09:37]  It's like the new MS-13.
[00:09:38]  They really are the new MS-13 as far as gang names go.
[00:09:41]  Remember the Denver apartment building fiasco?
[00:09:45]  That was them.
[00:09:46]  Yeah.
[00:09:48]  Or was that that?
[00:09:49]  I don't really, I'm not clear on what went down there.
[00:09:51]  But like, they're like a Venezuelan gang, a prison gang, blah, Last year, the Biden administration named them a transnational criminal organization, but then the Trump administration ramped it up in this January in a lead up to this decision, declaring them a foreign terrorist organization.
[00:10:10]  So this actually, I think, kind of people are like, oh, Trump's just like doing this so he can like evade, you know, and do whatever with like the Alien Enemies Act and like kind of shape it legally with the discourse.
[00:10:25]  But he kind of has been doing that for a while.
[00:10:27]  He's been saying that they're that Venezuela has been sending them over on purpose to like disrupt the country.
[00:10:33]  And so like, I think this is kind of where the mindset with the Alien Enemies Act stuff comes from.
[00:10:37]  Or at least like this is the justification they've been trying to do and build to rhetorically that like Venezuela and all these other countries are sending their criminals on purpose as like a method of irregular warfare to disrupt the U.S. Right.
[00:10:50]  And you name something an FTO, foreign terrorist organization, and a lot of legal means open up for either like declaring war on like not officially declaring war, but military interventions like directed through the executive bypassing Congress, right?
[00:11:08]  The FTO is kind of a way of getting around a lot of congressional authorizations for a lot of things.
[00:11:13]  Okay.
[00:11:14]  Also, also, I should add, can have a big effect on remittances sent back.
[00:11:18]  Well, we've seen that because they said now that any kind of any transaction above $200 in cash from basically all of the border towns and in certain places is being flagged and looked at, which I just want to, as a side note, is a great way to onboard a lot of people onto Solana.
[00:11:41]  Get on the chain.
[00:11:43]  I mean, I'm saying that with the as joke, but also that's literally true.
[00:11:47]  Yeah.
[00:11:48]  Okay, that's a different topic.
[00:11:49]  I just want to say that there are 76 groups labeled FTOs as of this moment.
[00:11:55]  That includes Hamas, who we're going to talk about, Hezbollah, the Temple Tigers, remember them.
[00:12:04]  The IRA, something to remember as you are posting little St. Patty's Day Instagram things, by the way.
[00:12:14]  The PFLP, Al-Qaeda, PKK, the New People's Army.
[00:12:19]  Keep going.
[00:12:19]  All the varieties of ISIS.
[00:12:21]  I'm sorry, there are like 80.
[00:12:23]  There aren't because there's only 76 groups, but there's so many different ISISes.
[00:12:28]  ICEs.
[00:12:28]  ICs.
[00:12:30]  It's too many.
[00:12:31]  It's like, can it just be one?
[00:12:32]  Can you just be like all the flavors of ISIS?
[00:12:35]  I don't understand how we can't just have one caliphate.
[00:12:37]  Why have so many different caliphates?
[00:12:39]  It's just ridiculous.
[00:12:40]  It's a federal system.
[00:12:41]  Okay, FARC.
[00:12:42]  There's also all of, there's like a bunch of the Mexican cartels.
[00:12:46]  All that's new from the Trump admin, MS-13, and now Trendaragua.
[00:12:50]  Okay.
[00:12:52]  I just want to lay out some things from the timeline that'll get us into this.
[00:12:56]  So 30 minutes after the proclamation goes online, this is on Saturday, ICE planes take off for El Salvador.
[00:13:04]  There was two planes.
[00:13:06]  An hour and a half later, a district judge orders the flights called back.
[00:13:10]  So the ACLU had a, I think it was the ACLU, they had a lawsuit already prepared.
[00:13:16]  They did, yeah.
[00:13:16]  Filed it immediately.
[00:13:17]  You know, all the firms are prepared for this.
[00:13:21]  So the judge issues a temporary restraining order, TRO, on the deportations and is like, turn the flights around.
[00:13:28]  This is where I think some reporting still needs to come out, although, you know, we were looking at this.
[00:13:34]  It's Tuesday that we're recording this, so some things may have changed.
[00:13:37]  But so there were two planes.
[00:13:38]  One of the flights landed at 7.02 p.m. Eastern in El Salvador.
[00:13:43]  So that was like, I think, right when the judge's order came out, or maybe a little bit before.
[00:13:49]  Then one of the other flights landed in Honduras at 6.36 on Saturday.
[00:13:57]  And then according to Flight Aware, as people were tracking this, it eventually took off from Honduras later that night after the judge's order came out and landed in El Salvador.
[00:14:08]  So like well, well after the order to return to the U.S. from the courts came.
[00:14:16]  So Bukele and Rubio literally boasted about ignoring the court order on X, the everything app, because where else are you going to fucking do it?
[00:14:26]  There was a tweet from Bukele on the 16th, so on Sunday morning, that, you know, the New York, there was a New York Post story.
[00:14:36]  It said, Fed judge orders deportation flights carrying alleged Venezuelan gangbangers to return to U.S. blocks Trump from invoking Alien Enemies Act.
[00:14:46]  Bukele posts a screenshot of that and writes, oopsie, dot, dot, dot, too late, crying laugh emoji.
[00:14:54]  The new swastika.
[00:14:57]  And then Marco Rubio, the fucking secretary of state, retweeted that.
[00:15:01]  Yeah.
[00:15:02]  I mean, Bukele also posted like a hype video of a bunch of people being taken from the planes, like presumably the, I don't know, it doesn't say who they are, but presumably the people that were taken over on these flights being led in chains with their heads like pushed down into prison cells.
[00:15:22]  Listen, I'm not really sure what can be done if the Trump administration just defies court orders.
[00:15:28]  Nobody really does.
[00:15:29]  And I, you know, I have funny, you know, I have funny feelings about this because put cards on the table here.
[00:15:34]  I was in power, I would, there would be no courts.
[00:15:37]  I'm sorry.
[00:15:37]  Like we would, we would take them out.
[00:15:39]  But like, this is technically still a liberal democratic government, you know, with checks and balances or whatever, whatever, whatever, which I, for the time being, believe in as long as it is convenient to me.
[00:15:51]  But there's like kind of really not that much you can do if someone just says, no, I'm not going to do this.
[00:15:58]  Like the people that are supposed to enforce court orders are federal marshals.
[00:16:02]  And I got to tell you, federal marshals are based out of the executive.
[00:16:05]  I do not think that they are going to like go in and arrest the president or whatever if something goes down here.
[00:16:11]  That, I mean, isn't that the kind of prelude to a constitutional crisis?
[00:16:15]  Yeah.
[00:16:15]  Yeah.
[00:16:16]  I mean, I think we are, listen, you know, I'm Polymarket have odds on that.
[00:16:21]  Well, I love Polymarket now because they are Polymarket's incredible because it's so blatantly partisan.
[00:16:26]  It is.
[00:16:27]  You know, they don't even have odds on.
[00:16:29]  By the way, if you're Polymarket and you're listening to this, get this done for me.
[00:16:32]  I would like odds on Trump finishing his first term.
[00:16:35]  They don't have odds on that?
[00:16:36]  No.
[00:16:37]  I looked at it because I was like, oh, this is the thing.
[00:16:38]  How do you not have any odds on that?
[00:16:40]  Because they're fucking partisan hacks.
[00:16:42]  They are.
[00:16:44]  We need a liberal polymarket.
[00:16:46]  We need a fucking liberal polymarket.
[00:16:47]  Remember Trump.
[00:16:48]  No, we need a Christian polymarket, but I'll get to that later.
[00:16:50]  Remember Trump versus the United States?
[00:16:54]  No.
[00:16:54]  Well, it was the big court case that decided.
[00:16:57]  Oh, is that about his immunity?
[00:16:59]  Yeah, that like the executive immunity.
[00:17:01]  So that significantly strengthened the executive and for the ability for the president to basically do whatever he wants.
[00:17:07]  And so I don't really know.
[00:17:10]  And I think that I've been reading a lot of the liberal reporting on this because the liberals love the courts, right?
[00:17:15]  Yeah.
[00:17:15]  And because they're like, this is now for now.
[00:17:17]  I know.
[00:17:18]  But lives love the courts.
[00:17:20]  And so that's kind of always been like their fallback when Trump does crazy shit.
[00:17:24]  And it really did stymie him in the first term a lot.
[00:17:27]  But they also had a lot of institutional backing then.
[00:17:30]  Yes.
[00:17:30]  Now I think things are different.
[00:17:32]  And I do think that we're going to get to something like maybe a constitutional event.
[00:17:38]  One thing I want to mention about Bukele, because it really, there's so much of this stuff that really is upsetting, obviously, but this is just a side story I want to mention, is that back in 2022, El Faro repeated that there a senior official in Bukele's admin.
[00:17:55]  So like the guy who at the time was tasked as the chief negotiator with the cartels, because remember in El Salvador, they're basically like negotiating a ceasefire, we'll call it a little bit, but in the same way that like the mafia is like, all right, all right, let's all calm down.

=== Sending People to Seacot Prison (07:00) ===

[00:18:11]  Yeah.
[00:18:12]  It's that kind of thing, not like, you know, legit.
[00:18:16]  Everyone's a fucking mobster is what I'm trying to say.
[00:18:18]  Yes.
[00:18:18]  Okay.
[00:18:18]  Yeah.
[00:18:20]  He's negotiating that with the cartels.
[00:18:22]  Anyway, so this senior official, the chief negotiator, he personally took the head of MS-13 out of maximum security jail and drove him, literally personally drove him to Guatemala to, quote, show you my loyalty and trustworthiness.
[00:18:39]  And I'm quoting that because they have him on tape saying that over the phone before, this is all from these police files.
[00:18:48]  They had, you know, all this like audio came out of him admitting to all of this because whistleblowers obtained emails, police files, prison intelligence reports, all of this.
[00:18:58]  And it went out to the media.
[00:19:00]  And so Canales, who is the head of MS-13, he was at the time facing a 40-year sentence and had also an international arrest warrant out from the U.S. on him for international terrorism and like drug trafficking.
[00:19:15]  And this was going on within the Bukele administration, right?
[00:19:19]  So all of this like tough guy shit that he puts out on Twitter.
[00:19:27]  It's like, I know it's all performance.
[00:19:29]  It's obviously, it's also these videos are all, they basically look like Marvel movie or like video game trailers.
[00:19:37]  They're shot like that.
[00:19:38]  And they're aimed at the exact kind of people who suck that shit up here in the U.S.
[00:19:41]  I know, but I just, it's all fucking bullshit.
[00:19:44]  This shit, it's all bullshit.
[00:19:46]  Yeah.
[00:19:46]  I mean, listen, I've said this before and I'll say it again.
[00:19:49]  $5,000 in whatever cryptocurrency of your choice to somebody who can get me proof that Bukele did in fact OD within the past five years.
[00:19:57]  Because that is, that is what the word rides on the street right now.
[00:20:00]  This man is a drug fucking freak and he cannot handle his shit.
[00:20:03]  And I say this as someone who OD'd and guess what?
[00:20:05]  I snapped out of it.
[00:20:06]  I got up.
[00:20:07]  He did become the president.
[00:20:09]  But the thing is, like in El Salvador, like, listen, it's a complicated situation.
[00:20:14]  You know what I mean?
[00:20:15]  When you get a lot of gangs, sometimes you got to do some crazy shit.
[00:20:17]  But Bukele, Bukele has within this gang crackdown, also arrested a ton of people who were just political opposition to him.
[00:20:27]  Yes, of course.
[00:20:28]  Like, do you remember when he brought just the army into the legislature?
[00:20:31]  Yes.
[00:20:32]  Like it's not, you know, and this is, this is something like, I mean, this is not the most uncommon thing in the world, right?
[00:20:39]  It's not like all of America's allies are these, you know, first-rate democratic nations.
[00:20:43]  But like, this is specifically like the regime, this and maybe Dubai are like the regimes that the people in power in America, both in the business and political sector, want to turn us into.
[00:20:55]  Like, this is, Bukele's El Salvador is their dream.
[00:20:59]  I mean, yeah.
[00:21:00]  And so this, this, this.
[00:21:02]  Prison that they get sent to too.
[00:21:04]  I mean, we've talked about it before on the show.
[00:21:06]  It's Seacot, right?
[00:21:07]  Yeah, that's how I say it.
[00:21:08]  Yeah, Seacot.
[00:21:09]  I mean, it stands for some, I fucking, I said this like four episodes ago, so who the fuck knows?
[00:21:13]  But some shit in Spanish, like their counter-terror prison.
[00:21:16]  Not that Espanol is a beautiful, la beautiful language, but I don't speak it.
[00:21:21]  But I do kind of speak it, right?
[00:21:23]  Like when someone says, I do, in more ways than one, but I do kind of get what they're saying there when they talk.
[00:21:32]  But this prison is like, first of all, it's a work camp.
[00:21:36]  Most of these people are put to work.
[00:21:38]  Not all of the like big gangbangers, like apparently they're just a lot, they're stuck in their cell for all but 30 minutes a day when they're allowed to do calisthenics in front of white American YouTubers who go down there and film like Mr. Beast style videos.
[00:21:50]  Are you fucking serious?
[00:21:51]  It's a real big phenomenon.
[00:21:52]  Yeah.
[00:21:53]  Look up Seacott on YouTube one time sometime and you will see like a lot of guys being like, this is the craziest prison in the world and it's the most secure.
[00:22:00]  And it's like them, like they let them parade in front of like the prisoners and stuff.
[00:22:05]  Everyone else in there though does labor.
[00:22:09]  And so I just don't really understand, like we don't really know who a lot of these people are who got sent away.
[00:22:18]  Yeah.
[00:22:18]  It seems like they're slowly becoming identified, but it's still unclear.
[00:22:24]  I don't believe any of the names have been released.
[00:22:26]  I mean, let alone, by the way, like any evidence that they are members of the gang.
[00:22:31]  I know that there were like three or four that lawyers are claiming were misidentified and are like, one of the people actually entered legally at like a port of entry under like asylum.
[00:22:44]  There was like another person who's like, oh, I just got tattoos in Texas.
[00:22:48]  Like I'm not affiliated.
[00:22:50]  So there's like a lot of people that it seemed got swept up in this.
[00:22:54]  And it's unclear even how ICE is identifying these people.
[00:22:58]  And it doesn't matter because of the way that this is being invoked, there's no due process.
[00:23:04]  Yes, which is, it's not like the first time that there hasn't been due process for American citizens kind of wrapped up in this stuff.
[00:23:10]  We actually saw this stuff happen during like the early years of the war on terror a lot.
[00:23:14]  Not a lot, but it happened multiple times.
[00:23:17]  The thing is with this though, like I'm not really sure how this works because now they're in the custody of a foreign government.
[00:23:24]  So like, for instance, if you're one of these people who got like wrapped up in this or whatever, even if you are a member of this gang or whatever, you're sent to El Salvador.
[00:23:34]  What sentence are you serving out there?
[00:23:36]  Like, that's what I don't understand.
[00:23:37]  Like, who, what judge sentenced you to something?
[00:23:40]  Like, is there an appeals process?
[00:23:41]  Can you get out?
[00:23:42]  Like, I just, this is completely unclear.
[00:23:45]  We're paying El Salvador.
[00:23:46]  We do know that.
[00:23:47]  We're paying them millions of dollars to take these prisoners, which, by the way, when this was first mentioned and this was first brought up, we talked about this on the show.
[00:23:55]  Musk and Trump and JD Vance and all these people were talking about sending American citizens down there.
[00:24:03]  We don't know.
[00:24:04]  We just don't know.
[00:24:06]  Seacott is a fucking black box.
[00:24:08]  Like, we're not, you're not like, they're not going to allow your fucking journalists in there.
[00:24:12]  Not to mention, where's Venezuela in this?
[00:24:15]  Well, Venezuela refuses to take back these, a lot of, a lot of the prison, like not prisoners, excuse me, like people, because you know how like the U.S. is now sending these planes to like Colombia.
[00:24:26]  They did that bullshit there.
[00:24:28]  Venezuela, you know, we don't have, Trump kind of did try to overthrow the government.
[00:24:33]  Yeah, no show.
[00:24:33]  So I don't know if they're like super on great terms.
[00:24:38]  It's just not.
[00:24:39]  But I'm saying like these are, this is a, this is a third country now.
[00:24:43]  Yeah.
[00:24:44]  Correct.
[00:24:45]  I don't know.
[00:24:46]  I mean, I, I, I, I just, I don't really know a precedent for this exact thing.
[00:24:50]  I mean, the only thing I can think of is that it's like extraordinary rendition.
[00:24:54]  Well, yeah, it is.
[00:24:55]  You know, I mean, which I don't see a lot of people throwing that around or talking about it.
[00:24:59]  But that's like, I know that you just said that with the war on terror, but like that's the only thing that I can think of that is similar to what's happening.
[00:25:06]  It's certainly nothing like any kind of immigration proceeding or anything like that that we've seen.

=== Owning Contradictions (07:29) ===

[00:25:12]  No, no.
[00:25:12]  I mean, I think there's a reason too, like, you know, how they're like revamping Guantanamo and like sending people there.
[00:25:18]  And they're sending people to Panama.
[00:25:19]  Yeah.
[00:25:19]  Like, I think there's a reason that they're trying to do a lot of this out of the country.
[00:25:22]  And they will say it's because of costs or whatever.
[00:25:26]  But I think it's really so that like any sort of legal process here gets completely stymied, right?
[00:25:30]  Like you can't, how are you going to call your lawyer from Seacot?
[00:25:34]  You know what I mean?
[00:25:35]  What fucking phone are you going to use in Seacot?
[00:25:38]  And so, but what's like the thing that's more confusing to me here is even if these people, that's the thing is like, whatever you're accused of here, like, what sentence are these people serving out?
[00:25:51]  Like, that's what I just don't understand.
[00:25:53]  No, this is a detention.
[00:25:54]  It's not a sentence.
[00:25:55]  I know.
[00:25:55]  And so that, that's the thing.
[00:25:56]  And like, whatever.
[00:25:57]  And the people who are defending a lot of this stuff are like, well, you're defending these fucking gangbangers or terrorists or whatever.
[00:26:06]  It's like, well, no, the reality is, is like, actually, we have due process and we're supposed to have due process.
[00:26:14]  The time that we famously have kind of revoked that is seen as like a huge just disaster in terms of civil rights in this country, which is like the global war on terror regime, which is, of course, the thing that Trump is destroying.
[00:26:31]  But I think the reality is a lot of people just don't care and they're like glad this is happening because now they can point out if you get mad about it, they're like, well, you're defending these fucking gangbangers and terrorists over like American citizens that they were terrorizing or whatever.
[00:26:44]  I mean, there was a big tweet, right?
[00:26:45]  Where people were talking about due process and some Riley Gaines, one of our new fucking beautiful.
[00:26:51]  Can I say that?
[00:26:53]  Okay, another person, I don't know who that is, but that is the name of a porn star.
[00:26:59]  Well, you're that is how a lot of these people but I just like, doesn't it sound like a porn star name?
[00:27:04]  Yeah, it does.
[00:27:04]  Sure.
[00:27:05]  But she is, I think she's kind of, well, I don't know about that kind of stuff.
[00:27:10]  You both answered pretty quick.
[00:27:12]  I said, sure, but that was non-committal.
[00:27:15]  Riley Gaines is from memory.
[00:27:16]  Sorry, that sounds like a fucking AVN it, Liz.
[00:27:22]  I'll say it right now.
[00:27:23]  You're going to make me say, I do porn.
[00:27:26]  I fucking do porn.
[00:27:28]  Okay.
[00:27:28]  And I'm not ashamed.
[00:27:29]  You're fucking shaming shit.
[00:27:31]  Yeah, that sounds like a porn name.
[00:27:32]  Guess what?
[00:27:32]  So does Brace Belden.
[00:27:34]  So does Mr. Fireworks, which you can get me on OnlyFans subscriptions now.
[00:27:38]  Riley Gaines is a one of our amazing celebrities who got famous for going against a trans athlete or something.
[00:27:45]  I don't know.
[00:27:45]  Who gives a fuck?
[00:27:46]  Well, he's a swimmer.
[00:27:47]  She's a porn star of another type.
[00:27:48]  Exactly.
[00:27:49]  But she now she's just like one of these ladies on the TV or whatever.
[00:27:54]  Get content porn star.
[00:27:55]  It's a good way of putting it.
[00:27:56]  But she posted a picture of Lake and Riley.
[00:27:59]  And she's like, Lake and Riley didn't get due process.
[00:28:05]  These wait, but I also wait.
[00:28:08]  Sorry.
[00:28:09]  Wait, who's Lake and Riley again?
[00:28:10]  Is that a victim of she got killed by a but what is the idea that if there was due process, then they would have decided that she would die?
[00:28:18]  I guess that's why I don't understand this scenario.
[00:28:20]  The illegal immigrant who killed Lake and Riley would have put her on trial first.
[00:28:25]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:28:25]  Like what?
[00:28:26]  Then executed her legally, I suppose.
[00:28:28]  If we so if we all came to that conclusion, but that's like the level we're working at now is that like and this is something that I think a lot of people do not have in their heads.
[00:28:36]  Nobody cares.
[00:28:37]  Like hypocrisy or like pointing out stuff like, oh, what about this?
[00:28:40]  What about this?
[00:28:41]  What about this?
[00:28:42]  Nobody cares.
[00:28:43]  If people know about it, they are like, I don't care.
[00:28:46]  And if people don't know about it, which is the vast majority or like have ever considered the idea of due process, which is the vast majority of people who are supporters of this stuff, or frankly, the people who are opposed to this, nobody knows what the fuck anything is at all in this world anymore.
[00:29:00]  It just doesn't matter.
[00:29:01]  Like the hypocrisy stuff does not matter.
[00:29:03]  Every issue litigated on X makes you forces you to take a position on it.
[00:29:07]  Every news day of the IDA, like every news item of the day.
[00:29:11]  And so because of that, like power users on X, it forces everyone to be what people love to say call as like a schmidian.
[00:29:19]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:19]  Yeah.
[00:29:20]  Where it's always friends and enemies because you always have to take a position on something.
[00:29:24]  And so the politics that flows up from that into actual places of power has been completely decoupled from any kind of like backbone, ideological or liberal backbone.
[00:29:40]  Everything is just about what's your position on this one issue.
[00:29:44]  It's just about owning the left.
[00:29:45]  It's just about owning my enemy.
[00:29:46]  It's just about owning the right or whatever it is for these people.
[00:29:50]  I mean, that's a good point because I think like, funnily enough, a lot of Republican, I don't know what, or really probably Democrat too, but it doesn't really matter because they can't do anything.
[00:30:01]  Like sort of stems upwards from these like content creators.
[00:30:04]  Like Mao Chong probably has a bigger effect on U.S. cat turd.
[00:30:08]  The cat turd.
[00:30:09]  I can't believe I just said that out loud.
[00:30:11]  I know.
[00:30:11]  It's what a world we're living in, baby.
[00:30:14]  But these people have like a bigger effect on like policy or like Marco Rubio than like any amount of other people besides maybe like an Adelson.
[00:30:25]  And so these people constantly are forced to take positions that are maybe completely opposed to a position they might have taken the day before, but it doesn't matter.
[00:30:33]  Like nothing matters.
[00:30:34]  No, it's cool, but it's coherent to them because it's all within the pipeline of X, the everything app, right?
[00:30:40]  And so it makes sense.
[00:30:42]  But then it doesn't matter when like the fact that, and then, you know, you have like, like you're saying, like big time Republican operatives, whether that's Elon Musk or Rubio or whoever it is, repeating these lines because they see it on X, the everything app, and they're just like saying all this shit.
[00:31:00]  Even though there's like, you know, SCODIS has ruled, SCODIS, no, I'm like a real liberal wonk, SCODIS has ruled time and time again that due process applies to anyone within the United States, whether they are citizens, whether they are on visas, whether they are permanent residents, whether they are naturalized, whether they are here illegally, that it still applies.
[00:31:24]  That has been ruled over and over again.
[00:31:27]  And they're just like, it's not just that they don't hear it or they don't know it.
[00:31:30]  It like even that has no penetration into what they have to achieve, which is like retweet attention for this like Lake and Riley point that is incoherent on the level that they're making it.
[00:31:44]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:46]  But not to sound, not to sound too, too German here, but I think it's funny.
[00:31:50]  It's like a combination of like the actual tactics of these organizations of being, you might call it Nacht und Nibel, night and fog or whatever, but also Sturman Drang, right?
[00:32:01]  Like it's all like, it's these, it's, it's, it's everything, man, we really aren't contradictions.
[00:32:08]  Fuck, this is this throws into disarray everything I believe in.
[00:32:11]  Maybe contradictions just aren't real.
[00:32:13]  You can just, everything exists at all the same time in all the same places.
[00:32:15]  That is the contradiction.
[00:32:16]  There's a contradiction, yeah.
[00:32:18]  But you don't actually have to ever resolve the contradiction.
[00:32:21]  Well, that's the young go with the contradiction is resolved just by being a contradiction.
[00:32:25]  You just like talked yourself into like coj.
[00:32:28]  I've never read any of that stuff, though.
[00:32:30]  Do I need to?
[00:32:31]  No.
[00:32:32]  I don't think I need to read Cohem.
[00:32:33]  I know what I believe.
[00:32:34]  I don't know if I ever need to read another political book again besides one by Cojivi.
[00:32:38]  Co Eve.
[00:32:40]  The Mexican.

=== Who Got Him Busted? (06:46) ===

[00:32:42]  He was.
[00:32:43]  But don't edit that out.
[00:32:46]  Anyways, I mean, you have a quote here from Director Homan.
[00:32:52]  Yeah, he was like on CNN or Fox or whatever it was, and he's like, we're not stopping.
[00:32:57]  I don't care what judges think.
[00:32:58]  I don't care what the left thinks.
[00:33:01]  We're coming.
[00:33:02]  And I do think that, you know, some of that is, you know, playing to their base, obviously, because everyone wants to own the lives or whatever.
[00:33:11]  But also, they see this not just as a direct attack and a way to rile up the base against activist judges, but as in like also doing that to the left.
[00:33:22]  Yeah.
[00:33:23]  And I think that that is very clear in the unprecedented arrest of Mahmoud Khalil.
[00:33:43]  All right.
[00:33:43]  So what went down here?
[00:33:45]  March 8th, Mahmoud Khalil is a 30-year-old student at Columbia University, a permanent resident, which means a green card holder, who's married to an American citizen who is eight months pregnant, was arrested by ICE.
[00:33:57]  And the video, you saw the video.
[00:33:59]  Yeah.
[00:34:00]  It's extraordinary.
[00:34:01]  An obese man in tactical pants and a Marvel t-shirt handcuffs Mahmoud Khalil in front of his wife and takes him out to a car.
[00:34:09]  Khalil actually seems pretty calm and he's like, you know, he's saying sort of like, you know, calm down, love.
[00:34:13]  It's okay.
[00:34:14]  You know, just call the lawyer.
[00:34:15]  Yeah.
[00:34:16]  It seems like he knew something was up.
[00:34:19]  I mean, heavily telegraphed by the Trump administration.
[00:34:21]  So he probably did know something was up.
[00:34:22]  They obviously like had planned a little bit for a contingency like this to happen.
[00:34:28]  What's kind of astounding is how quickly he is whisked away there.
[00:34:32]  Yeah.
[00:34:32]  I mean, obviously the video I think is cut at one point, but it seems very clear that like they kind of just get him into a car and speed off right away.
[00:34:40]  I saw later reporting that like one of the officers talked to a lawyer on the phone and just hung up on her.
[00:34:45]  That's not shown in the video because I guess the phone that was used to video was probably the phone that was used to make the call.
[00:34:52]  But they leave like really quickly and his wife ends the video by saying like they're running away from me.
[00:34:58]  Like no one will talk to me.
[00:34:59]  No one will identify themselves.
[00:35:01]  One of the ICE agents, according to an article by Dropsite News, is Elvin Hernandez from the Dominican Republic, an ICE agent who was honored at Trump's 2019 State of the Union address.
[00:35:11]  So I guess he's like their big guy.
[00:35:13]  Pun, I guess, semi-intended.
[00:35:15]  Well, it wasn't intended, but I'll take it.
[00:35:19]  He's like, they deploy him out to this kind of shit.
[00:35:21]  So Mahmoud Khalil is from Syria.
[00:35:23]  He's from a Palestinian refugee camp there.
[00:35:26]  And his family fled to Lebanon at the outset of the war.
[00:35:29]  So it's kind of a double refugee thing going on there.
[00:35:32]  And he worked at the British Embassy, which I've seen a lot of like the right-wing people try to make hay about.
[00:35:38]  Like he's like a British spy spy or whatever.
[00:35:41]  First of all, LaRouche.
[00:35:46]  People just say whatever.
[00:35:51]  He was a spokesman for the protesters at Columbia.
[00:35:57]  God, remember the protests at Columbia?
[00:35:59]  I do.
[00:36:00]  And other colleges.
[00:36:02]  Yeah.
[00:36:02]  But I mean, really, the Columbia stuff got so much attention.
[00:36:05]  I don't know.
[00:36:06]  I guess it's well.
[00:36:07]  New York.
[00:36:08]  New York.
[00:36:09]  But I gotta be honest.
[00:36:11]  I went to that motherfucker.
[00:36:12]  It was kind of a bunch of people sitting on a lawn.
[00:36:15]  I mean, they did other stuff.
[00:36:17]  They did other stuff for sure.
[00:36:18]  They did the Heinhall stuff.
[00:36:19]  No, this shit was blown out of.
[00:36:21]  So I want to talk about that, but maybe a little bit later in the episode.
[00:36:25]  But it is worth revisiting how misrepresented and hysterical basically everyone was in reaction to these protests.
[00:36:35]  Yeah.
[00:36:35]  I was just like, I just kind of try to square what I saw with the way it was reported.
[00:36:43]  And it's like unbelievable the difference in like what it was actually.
[00:36:48]  And granted, you know, I was there for a day.
[00:36:50]  Maybe they were every other day, they were just going crazy.
[00:36:53]  You know what I mean?
[00:36:54]  They were burning things and blowing stuff up.
[00:36:56]  Beating people up.
[00:36:57]  You know, eating yamaka.
[00:37:00]  I don't know what they were doing, but it didn't seem like that to me.
[00:37:03]  It seemed like a bunch of college kids kind of sitting there.
[00:37:05]  In fact, I was like, maybe I should go a little crazier than this.
[00:37:08]  But, you know, what do I know?
[00:37:11]  But I want to talk about who got him busted.
[00:37:13]  Because, all right, so first of all, he gets taken away.
[00:37:16]  His lawyers can't.
[00:37:17]  I think they maybe have talked to him now.
[00:37:18]  They don't talk to him for a while, though.
[00:37:20]  It's like unclear where he's taken.
[00:37:21]  He's taking it first to New Jersey and then Louisiana.
[00:37:24]  Yes.
[00:37:25]  I think he's still in Louisiana.
[00:37:26]  And the reason to do that is because there's a lot of friendlier judges in Louisiana versus New York and New Jersey.
[00:37:35]  It's not clear what he's been charged with.
[00:37:38]  And in fact, I don't think he's been charged with anything.
[00:37:41]  But there is a small little provision that says that the Secretary of State, him or herself, can remove a green card holder from the United States if they deem them to be a national security threat.
[00:38:00]  Now, you know, to put this in perspective, Khalil was a spokesperson for a protest movement at a college in New York City.
[00:38:13]  There has been a lot of sort of hand-wringing from both like liberals who maybe do technically support this, but have to kind of be against it or whatever, and then people who just full-on support it.
[00:38:23]  And everyone's kind of saying different things, right?
[00:38:25]  They're saying like, oh, he did break the law by then, like, maybe some vague things that like were nothing, you know?
[00:38:33]  He was never arrested.
[00:38:35]  He is not charged with a crime.
[00:38:37]  He hasn't been charged with a crime in relation to any of this stuff.
[00:38:40]  Breaking university rules is not breaking the law.
[00:38:43]  I don't know if that needs to be said, but apparently it does because some people, including some old men that we're going to talk about, seem to be confused about that.
[00:38:52]  Yeah, I mean, it is just, it is sort of astounding.
[00:38:54]  But like the reality is, is that's not what the government is saying that they're deporting him for.
[00:38:59]  No.
[00:38:59]  Like, whatever you want to say about the legality of him being deported is, that is not what the government is giving as their reasoning, which is that he is, his green guard is being revoked because the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who, what, 15 years ago was sucking cock in fucking Miami foam parties, allegedly, many have alleged was doing that.
[00:39:24]  I didn't see a checking for cards back then, but then again, there was a lot of foam.

=== Victor Muslim's Controversy (08:04) ===

[00:39:28]  So who knows?
[00:39:29]  But is now in fucking, yeah, it's just, anyways, that is what they're fucking saying.
[00:39:36]  But who got him deported or in the process of deporting?
[00:39:40]  Deportation, whatever the fucking word is.
[00:39:43]  Because it is not.
[00:39:46]  I have some strong feelings about this.
[00:39:49]  Well, I'm going to let you take the lead on this because I don't want to be the butt of the joke anymore.
[00:39:54]  Okay.
[00:39:54]  I mean, it's just, this is, this is something I've been thinking about for quite a while.
[00:40:02]  So when his arrest was announced, White House Rapid Response, some other like White House account, I can't remember what it is, and the, I think it was like the, the Foreign Affairs Committee in Congress, which is like GOP controlled, all tweeted out pictures of him, which is something they've been doing to like a bunch of people.
[00:40:22]  Yeah.
[00:40:22]  That said, shalom, Mahmoud.
[00:40:26]  And, you know, just going to say it.
[00:40:31]  Not good for the Jews.
[00:40:32]  But nothing.
[00:40:33]  But the thing is, it's reminding me of when Saudi Arabia tweeted that thing to Canada.
[00:40:40]  Yeah, it's taunting.
[00:40:42]  It's very taunting.
[00:40:43]  It's taunting on X. On X.
[00:40:45]  Yeah.
[00:40:46]  It's unseen.
[00:40:46]  It made me fucking sick, actually.
[00:40:49]  And this whole thing, I mean, frankly, I think you're out of your fucking mind if this entire business, and I'm not talking about just like with the with the protests and with the with Gaza, with everything, the entire business of Israel makes me sick about being fucking Jewish.
[00:41:02]  It is, it is, it is, I am ashamed to have any, any kind of shared characteristic with these people at all.
[00:41:10]  It, it is, these people are disgusting.
[00:41:13]  But the people that got him busted in specific are seemingly, in fact, very clearly a consortium of Jewish alumni and current and former students and professors from Columbia.
[00:41:26]  Miriam Adelson, who in conjunction with the government of the state of Israel has a, and who are all over this shit.
[00:41:36]  And I'm not some fucking, this is not like a conspiracy theory thing.
[00:41:39]  This is just out in the open.
[00:41:40]  This has been reported on a million times by outlets you might find considerably more reputable than Truanon, or at least, you know, a little less sickened by this whole situation than Truanon.
[00:41:53]  A consortium of Jewish groups backed by Israel, Miriam Adelson, and a group of psychotic neoterrorists, alleged sex offenders.
[00:42:06]  So let's start with the first group, which also technically has that appellation would be well used to describe them.
[00:42:16]  So these are alumni groups.
[00:42:18]  And so the alumni situation at Columbia has been difficult ever since the protests first began.
[00:42:23]  Sensitive.
[00:42:25]  It's been a sensitive issue.
[00:42:27]  The reality is, and I don't, I mean, you want to, if you want to lie about this, that's your prerogative.
[00:42:33]  But the reality is, is that Columbia depends in large part on donations from wealthy Jewish alumnus.
[00:42:40]  Yeah.
[00:42:40]  I mean, that's a big part of their fundraising.
[00:42:46]  Though, I mean, we should say that is not the massive amount.
[00:42:51]  I mean, they have other ways to generate revenue.
[00:42:54]  Yes.
[00:42:54]  Especially for the endowment.
[00:42:56]  But like they, you know, they need to keep these people happy and they need to keep the money flowing.
[00:43:03]  I mean, like Robert Kraft, for instance, is like a huge donor.
[00:43:06]  And a lot of guys like Robert Kraft after protests started were like, we're not going to donate to you unless you crack down on these protesters hard.
[00:43:16]  And so that, that pressure has been coming in from the beginning, like before a lot of these other groups got organized.
[00:43:22]  There's another, there's another, just like everything is organized right now, there's another group chat of Jewish alumnus and current students and professors and former professors.
[00:43:35]  The Intercept and Columbia Spectator have both reported on these group chats.
[00:43:39]  And can you read this actually from the Columbia Spectator?
[00:43:42]  Can you read this?
[00:43:43]  This is from the group chat.
[00:43:46]  We should not care what they want or don't want.
[00:43:49]  We should consider first what results we want and how to achieve them, Victor Muslin, C-E-A-S 82, wrote in a message obtained by Spectator.
[00:44:00]  That being said, we need the powers that be to squash them like roaches.
[00:44:07]  Ignoring roaches in one's house is possible, but who wants to live that way?
[00:44:13]  Woo-hoo!
[00:44:14]  You would be shocked to find that Victor Muslim, Muslim, excuse me, not Muslim, Victor Muslim is not just like a guy who's concerned with the anti-Semitism on campus.
[00:44:26]  He has actually worked and written for Algeminer, which you might remember from our episodes that we did about the lobby, the canceled Al Jazeera documentary about the Israeli lobby in the U.S. that was released by Electronic Intifada.
[00:44:42]  It is a great documentary.
[00:44:43]  It gives a lot of background to kind of what's going on here.
[00:44:46]  Interestingly, he has written some articles for them.
[00:44:49]  That is full stop in Israeli Hasbro cutout that says it's funded by small donations.
[00:44:54]  That is absolutely, I mean, listen, I don't want to say anything actionable here.
[00:44:59]  I'd be willing to bet that those small donations come from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs or whatever other industry is dealing with Hasburg.
[00:45:08]  They post the numbers for ICE in there to try to get students deported.
[00:45:13]  I mean, this is like, you know, it's, it's, there is, I'm, I'm, they're very organized.
[00:45:18]  They're very, very organized.
[00:45:19]  This is, this is from the intercept reporting on the same group chats.
[00:45:22]  Lynn Bersky Tamim.
[00:45:25]  Tamam.
[00:45:26]  Tamam.
[00:45:26]  Turkish for hella.
[00:45:27]  Lynn Bersky Tamam, the former Columbia professor, also addressed how pro-Palestine U.S. citizens could be targeted.
[00:45:34]  If anyone can trace any of their funding to terror organizations, not a simple task, they can be arrested on grounds of providing, quote, material support for terror organizations, she wrote, referring to the Hind-Rajab protest.
[00:45:48]  That is the key to getting these U.S. citizens, supporters of Hamas, et cetera, arrested.
[00:45:56]  So, I mean, this is like a thousand-person group chat that is like specifically going after this like relatively small group of students at Columbia University.
[00:46:05]  They were sitting on a lawn.
[00:46:06]  I just want to like be clear.
[00:46:07]  They were sitting on a lawn.
[00:46:08]  I understand that there was the night that they broke in and or tried to occupy Hind Plaza or Hind building.
[00:46:17]  Hind Hall.
[00:46:18]  Hind Hall, whatever.
[00:46:19]  Some other hall, they renamed it.
[00:46:20]  I'm not.
[00:46:21]  We don't fucking go to college.
[00:46:24]  In the long tradition of that place being a site for student occupation, by the way, which we talked about when we did our episode on these protests however many moons ago.
[00:46:35]  But like these were kids for the most part sitting in tents on lawns, like having conversations with each other and reading for their classics.
[00:46:45]  I mean, it's like they did like, that's the thing is.
[00:46:48]  These people are so fucking insecure that even that cannot is too far.
[00:46:52]  Even that is too much.
[00:46:53]  Yeah.
[00:46:55]  Absolutely.
[00:46:55]  I mean, do you remember in LA, the encampment little encampment they had that was just like attacked by those psychotic Persian fucking Zionist freaks.
[00:47:03]  With the billboards and the sound machines and the fucking lights.
[00:47:06]  It's just, it's, it's LAPD.
[00:47:09]  This is, this is what, this is what pisses me off so fucking much.
[00:47:13]  Like these people are little Hitlers.
[00:47:15]  You know what I mean?
[00:47:16]  And like all of these, I don't know what happened.
[00:47:20]  Well, let me rephrase that.
[00:47:21]  I kind of do know what happened during the Holocaust, but I got to tell you, it turned a lot of these fucking people, a lot of these fucking Jewish people into fucking little Hitlers.
[00:47:31]  I mean, the roaches.

=== Washing Square Filming Incident (03:55) ===

[00:47:32]  We got it.
[00:47:33]  We got it.
[00:47:33]  We got to squash the roaches.
[00:47:35]  I mean, this is with like zero self-awareness.
[00:47:38]  I mean, you're talking about like fucking, you know, like college students here.
[00:47:41]  You know, it's just, it's completely, it's completely insane.
[00:47:45]  Is someone I knew was talking to me about that or talking to me like that.
[00:47:48]  Like, I mean, yeah, it's, it's absurd.
[00:47:51]  So Prem Thakar at ZTO got Khalil's correspondence with the Columbia administration talking about like his fears about these people kind of going after him.
[00:48:00]  Yeah, this is from that piece.
[00:48:02]  Khalil cited a threatening post by the pro-Israel organization Batar in January.
[00:48:08]  In the post, the group wrote that he said, quote, Zionists don't deserve to live, a statement Khalil, quote, unequivocally denied making in his email to university officials.
[00:48:20]  Batar also wrote that ICE, quote, is aware of his home address and whereabouts, and that they have, quote, provided all his information to multiple contacts.
[00:48:30]  He's on our deport list exclamation point, Batar added.
[00:48:35]  Now, we have talked about Batar on this very show.
[00:48:40]  I think it was in an Eric Adams episode.
[00:48:42]  How are you everywhere at once at all times?
[00:48:46]  Batar?
[00:48:47]  You, you are our forest gun.
[00:48:51]  I don't know.
[00:48:53]  I met the executive director, former executive director.
[00:48:57]  You don't even met.
[00:48:58]  You got in a fight with.
[00:49:00]  Well, okay.
[00:49:01]  So you got in a social media beef.
[00:49:04]  Last May, I was in a public park, Washington Square Park, just buying heroin.
[00:49:11]  And there was a disgusting guy who, like I said, looked like Bruce Willis post-diagnosis that someone left him out in the sun and forgot about him for a while.
[00:49:20]  I mean, no disrespect to Bruce Willis by saying that.
[00:49:22]  He's grapes.
[00:49:23]  Or grapes, but he just, he did look like that.
[00:49:25]  I met this homunculus.
[00:49:29]  He's very homunculous.
[00:49:30]  And he was filming a blonde woman sitting down on a bench.
[00:49:33]  And I say, you got to stop that, you know?
[00:49:36]  And he starts going crazy on me.
[00:49:38]  And his son, who, by the way, has been doxxed.
[00:49:42]  And it's like, wow.
[00:49:42]  Wait, someone doxed the baby?
[00:49:44]  He's not a baby.
[00:49:45]  He's an adult.
[00:49:45]  Who goes to college?
[00:49:46]  He could be an adult baby.
[00:49:47]  He is an adult baby.
[00:49:48]  And we don't know how he is.
[00:49:50]  His own practices, but I just want to, you know, someone docks that baby.
[00:49:53]  Someone dox the baby.
[00:49:55]  But his son was standing there humiliated behind his disgusting father.
[00:49:58]  His father starts asking me about my penis.
[00:50:02]  It's like, you got a penis?
[00:50:03]  Is your penis little?
[00:50:04]  Is there something to your penis?
[00:50:06]  Can we stop?
[00:50:07]  I love the idea of going up to people and be like, you got a penis.
[00:50:11]  What the hell is that?
[00:50:14]  Hey, excuse me.
[00:50:16]  You got a penis?
[00:50:16]  You got a penis?
[00:50:17]  What do you got going on?
[00:50:19]  I said, this is not, I don't know this guy is, you know, I don't know this guy from Adam.
[00:50:22]  I come in there and I'm saying, stop filming this woman.
[00:50:26]  She's very visibly uncomfortable by your hideous presence.
[00:50:30]  Yes.
[00:50:30]  Please stop.
[00:50:31]  Is chivalry dead?
[00:50:32]  No, it is not in Washington Square Park.
[00:50:34]  Maybe I want to film.
[00:50:35]  You know what I mean?
[00:50:37]  I don't.
[00:50:37]  I don't film women.
[00:50:39]  I don't film anything.
[00:50:41]  But I, except for, of course, my ownism.
[00:50:43]  But I was like, stop, you got to stop that.
[00:50:47]  And he starts going crazy on me.
[00:50:49]  Crazy.
[00:50:50]  And I'm like, this guy is a nut.
[00:50:52]  And I'm looking at him and he is fucking covered in freckles.
[00:50:56]  Yeah.
[00:50:57]  He looks like.
[00:50:59]  He desperately needs a laser.
[00:51:01]  It's interesting that he's bald, but I can still tell he's a redhead.
[00:51:05]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:51:06]  Not a speck of hair on that fucking dome of his, but I can tell.
[00:51:09]  And no disrespect to redheads, but it was just still.
[00:51:12]  It was an endangered species.
[00:51:14]  Well, this is not, they're not sending their best.
[00:51:16]  This guy was a fucking freak.
[00:51:19]  And then he started filming you.
[00:51:20]  He started filming me.
[00:51:21]  And I'm like, oh, so you're bisexual.
[00:51:23]  That doesn't excuse this, but you got to stop.
[00:51:26]  And he's just going crazy about me.

=== Strange Allies and Filming Episodes (11:57) ===

[00:51:28]  He's asking me about Hamas.
[00:51:29]  He's asking me if I support Hamas, if I support killing babies, blah, blah, blah.
[00:51:33]  He's filming for like for minutes and minutes and minutes and minutes.
[00:51:35]  He posts that footage.
[00:51:37]  I know.
[00:51:37]  And it turns out I had no idea who he was.
[00:51:41]  And it turns out his name is Ross Glick.
[00:51:43]  And it's like, oh, Ross Glick?
[00:51:45]  This guy's crazy.
[00:51:46]  What a crazy name.
[00:51:48]  I look him up.
[00:51:50]  And it turns out that New York Post has written a story a few years ago about the revenge porn kingpins of New York City.
[00:51:59]  And it turns out this guy, Ross Glick, had been arrested by the NYPD, who I support, for disseminating revenge porn.
[00:52:08]  What he would do is he got an argument with some woman that he was seeing.
[00:52:12]  Doesn't sound like you're a very good boyfriend.
[00:52:14]  In fact, it doesn't sound like you're a very good man at all.
[00:52:16]  And he would log into her companies and her personal social media accounts and post pictures of her naked.
[00:52:24]  I mean, can you imagine what kind of person would do something like that?
[00:52:26]  A monster.
[00:52:27]  A fucking monster.
[00:52:29]  I'm sorry.
[00:52:29]  Like, you are, you are, this is the actions of a despicable creep.
[00:52:35]  And what do I find?
[00:52:37]  He's executive director of an organization called Batar.
[00:52:41]  Now, we've talked about Batar in a previous episode.
[00:52:43]  Yada, yada, we know the deal.
[00:52:44]  They collaborated with Mussolini.
[00:52:46]  They were terrorists.
[00:52:47]  They were, you know, they were basic, they were fascists.
[00:52:49]  They were, Einstein called them fascists.
[00:52:52]  The ADL, the ADL labeled them an extremist group.
[00:52:57]  I mean, it's, it's, it's out of control.
[00:52:59]  Do you know how extreme you'd have to be for the ADL to be like, whoa, For, no, for you to have to be to be Jewish and have the ADL say something.
[00:53:06]  There you go.
[00:53:06]  Yeah, that's the thing is the ADL, by the way, which has always been bad, but has completely further every day disgraces itself further, always been bad, now much worse.
[00:53:19]  And it was like three years ago that companies were hiring them to like do like DEI stuff.
[00:53:23]  I know.
[00:53:24]  It's amazing.
[00:53:25]  Batar is nominally run and was sort of restarted in America because it was like around and then it kind of went fallow.
[00:53:31]  And Ron Tarosian, who is an absolutely psychotic New York City publicist, very close to Eric Adams and Richie Torres.
[00:53:40]  Yes.
[00:53:41]  Sort of restarted it, who also, by the way, two boobs of New York City.
[00:53:45]  Yeah.
[00:53:45]  I mean, my God, it is what?
[00:53:49]  How are these people in power?
[00:53:51]  Tarossian is a freak.
[00:53:53]  Even people from his own industry despise him.
[00:53:56]  And this is the case with everybody connected to almost every single one of these groups.
[00:54:00]  Everybody in their personal lives does not like them.
[00:54:03]  And then they take it out on everyone else.
[00:54:04]  Well, that's the thing is they can't, they can't, they get no satisfaction at home because everyone's like, get the fuck out of my house.
[00:54:09]  Don't ever talk to my family again, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:54:12]  And so they leave the private sphere and they go to the public sphere.
[00:54:16]  All these people, they're malignant tumors on society.
[00:54:19]  But I would never say something like that.
[00:54:21]  Save it for the group chat.
[00:54:22]  Save it for the group chat.
[00:54:23]  I'm not in a group chat.
[00:54:24]  Tarosian goes and he goes to Israel as like a fucking 20-year-old to like personally beat up Palestinians, allegedly.
[00:54:32]  And to like, to, I think it was like he was going to protest the protesting of village destruction.
[00:54:39]  So he's like going as like, he's not even a settler.
[00:54:42]  He's just going as an ally to like the illegal settlements.
[00:54:47]  He's he's good friends again with Torres.
[00:54:50]  And by the way, a lot of these people who are backing, like who are in this Columbia group chat are like backers of Richie Torres.
[00:54:56]  Big time.
[00:54:57]  So this is what Ross Glick had to say about the whole situation to the Times of Israel.
[00:55:04]  He said, college campuses have effectively become war zones.
[00:55:07]  Even many of the protesters engaging in peaceful activities are part of a front for groups that are trying to undermine America and Israel.
[00:55:15]  We believe in freedom of speech, but if a foreign student is here on a visa, they don't have the same rights as others to protest or promote anti-Zionist narratives.
[00:55:25]  And then he goes on to say, they've created a list of dozens of students from Canada and the United Kingdom, as well as several Arab countries, identified at top schools like Columbia University, University of Pennsylvania, University of Michigan, and University of California, Los Angeles.
[00:55:44]  So he gave a statement much closer to when I think all this was going down like a week ago or so to The Guardian.
[00:55:51]  This guy also is like, I think it's, he will literally talk to anybody.
[00:55:55]  It's crazy some of the stuff he just admits freely to the papers.
[00:55:59]  Yes.
[00:56:00]  But he gave a statement to The Guardian and he's like, we've submitted a list of thousands of names of students and faculty that they believe to be on visas.
[00:56:10]  And he says that he claimed to have shared this list personally with Marco Rubio, Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, and along, you know, along among others.
[00:56:20]  Now, it's been reported that he met and had like a long meeting with fucking John Fetterman and Ted Cruz.
[00:56:29]  And Ross Glick came out and said, oh, I discussed with Ted Cruz, like Mahmoud Khalil specifically just days before the arrest.
[00:56:37]  Liz, breaking news just came in right here.
[00:56:40]  I'm looking at rossglick.com.
[00:56:43]  And one of the things that I want you to go to this website.
[00:56:46]  Oh, no.
[00:56:46]  Tap it into that little notebook here.
[00:56:49]  Oh, he redid his website.
[00:56:50]  Oh, it's incredible.
[00:56:51]  Now he's got a logo.
[00:56:52]  He's got an RG.
[00:56:53]  Do you see that on the left there?
[00:56:55]  This is Glick Ross.
[00:56:56]  Yeah.
[00:56:58]  By the way, this guy has to be.
[00:57:00]  I just want to, I know what does it say, Glick Ross?
[00:57:03]  Glick Ross.
[00:57:03]  But it's RGB.
[00:57:06]  Max Reed style.
[00:57:07]  Yeah.
[00:57:08]  Read my Max.
[00:57:09]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:57:10]  Oh, my God.
[00:57:10]  I want to go ahead and say, this guy has been a failure at literally everything he's ever done in his life.
[00:57:14]  I have looked up his entire business industry.
[00:57:16]  I've looked up everything about this guy.
[00:57:18]  Everything has failed.
[00:57:19]  And that truth failed.
[00:57:21]  It's failed spectacularly.
[00:57:22]  He is ugly.
[00:57:23]  Listeners, go to RossGlick.com.
[00:57:25]  Boy, it is Ross's journey.
[00:57:28]  It is amazing.
[00:57:29]  He is fucking a proud American dedicated Zionist and advocate for Israel Jews in the diaspora, combating anti-Semitism in the streets in Washington, D.C. and online.
[00:57:38]  Hashtag family, hashtag fitness, hashtag food, hashtag music, hashtag startups, hashtag football coach, hashtag art, hashtag adventure, hashtag politics.
[00:57:47]  Looks like there's a phone number at the bottom there.
[00:57:50]  But I want you to go to public statement.
[00:57:53]  I found this extraordinary.
[00:57:54]  Public statement.
[00:57:55]  It's the only thing that's bold up here.
[00:57:57]  Go to the top.
[00:57:58]  Public statement.
[00:57:59]  I've never seen anything like this in my life.
[00:58:00]  And legal warning.
[00:58:01]  And legal warning.
[00:58:02]  What does this say?
[00:58:03]  On this guy's personal website.
[00:58:05]  I just want, this is a crazy thing to have.
[00:58:08]  Okay, it says, it's up in the top menu and you click public statement.
[00:58:13]  And this is the person who's close to John Fetterman and Ted Cruz and getting people here on green cards deported.
[00:58:19]  Public notice and legal warning.
[00:58:21]  Upon information and belief, false and defamatory statements against Ross Glick have been posted online in various sources such as New York Post and Palestinian News Network.
[00:58:29]  It must be stated unequivocally that Ross Glick is not a sex criminal.
[00:58:34]  He has never been convicted of a crime.
[00:58:36]  And any statements to the opposite are legally actionable and will not be tolerated.
[00:58:40]  To be clear, it continues, to be clear, Ross Glick has never been convicted of any crime, let alone a sex crime.
[00:58:49]  And it goes on.
[00:58:50]  It goes on.
[00:58:51]  It's like very long.
[00:58:52]  And then at the end of it, it says, in fact, all criminal charges were dismissed.
[00:58:57]  That's in bold.
[00:58:59]  So he hasn't been convicted of a sex crime.
[00:59:01]  He is an unconvicted.
[00:59:03]  I mean, I'm just, I'm not saying anything about Ross Glick.
[00:59:06]  I'm not saying anything about Ross Glick's legal history here.
[00:59:09]  I'm just trying to wonder about the legal realities of this in the first place.
[00:59:13]  So he's an unconvicted sex criminal or he's not a sex criminal at all.
[00:59:17]  He just did things of a sexual nature that are seen as morally, ethically, and legally wrong, but he could not be convicted of those things.
[00:59:26]  He says the only remaining charge that Mr. Glick faced was the non-criminal violation of harassment in the second degree.
[00:59:33]  Harassment in the second degree in New York is a violation that involves intentionally harassing, annoying, or alarming another person.
[00:59:41]  It is a violation, not a crime.
[00:59:44]  And the maximum penalty is 15 days in jail and a $250 fine.
[00:59:48]  This is the legal equivalent to a parking ticket.
[00:59:51]  Sorry, harassing women is the legal equivalent to a parking ticket, says RossGlick.com.
[00:59:57]  It's just, it's, it's interesting.
[00:59:58]  He says it's reckless, agenda-driven defamation targeting a successful Jewish businessman.
[01:00:03]  And I got to tell you, this is crazy.
[01:00:05]  I've looked at Ross Glick's business history.
[01:00:07]  I've looked at it in depth.
[01:00:09]  He is not successful.
[01:00:11]  I mean, by any definition.
[01:00:12]  He's not going to be a Jewish business owner on Jewish business.
[01:00:15]  I mean, I'm not sure that he's Jewish.
[01:00:17]  I haven't seen his penis, which, I mean, many people apparently have.
[01:00:21]  I mean, ma'am, asking other people.
[01:00:23]  It is, it is just, it is ridiculous.
[01:00:25]  He's saying he's going to, and I, you know, I talked to a lawyer about this.
[01:00:29]  I talked to a couple lawyers about this, Jewish and non-Jewish lawyers.
[01:00:33]  And they say that this is just a completely, this is a non-actional, you cannot do anything.
[01:00:37]  This is not a real legal statement.
[01:00:39]  Interestingly, at the end of this, it says any threats, harassment, or doxing, including the use of images of his children, will be referred to law enforcement.
[01:00:47]  So there's a very clear statement here on doxing babies.
[01:00:51]  But I don't understand because he's got a picture of himself with his children here.
[01:00:53]  I think he's preemptively doxing his babies.
[01:00:55]  He is pre-Oh, you got to do it.
[01:00:57]  You got to strike.
[01:00:58]  Fortune favors the bold.
[01:00:59]  Frankly, you seem more bald than bold, Mr. Glick.
[01:01:03]  Oh, that's terrible.
[01:01:04]  I'm going to tell you, this guy is out of control.
[01:01:07]  Legal notice on the website?
[01:01:08]  And he's meeting with John Fetterman.
[01:01:10]  Legal notice, I'm not a sex criminal.
[01:01:11]  Well, buddy, nobody called you a sex criminal.
[01:01:15]  Have they?
[01:01:15]  I mean, I haven't.
[01:01:16]  I don't.
[01:01:16]  Well, he's calling himself that.
[01:01:19]  I mean, I just got to say, an old folk tale from where I come from says where there's smoke, there's fire.
[01:01:25]  Wow.
[01:01:26]  No one was thinking it until he said it.
[01:01:28]  So executive director of Batar, although Batar says no affiliation, even though he's still being labeled executive director of Batar in various articles about the group, they wrote, expect naturalized citizens to start being picked up within the month on X.
[01:01:46]  I mean, that's fucking insane.
[01:01:48]  So they're talking about people who've been naturalized, people who have come to America and now become citizens, which means like, by the way, I don't know if people understand, you know, I'm sure people know this process, but it takes a very long time.
[01:01:59]  You cannot just immediately become a citizen.
[01:02:01]  No.
[01:02:01]  There is a process.
[01:02:02]  There's a wait to get a green card, then to renew the green card and wait many years in order to have the opportunity to then become a citizen.
[01:02:10]  Yeah.
[01:02:11]  So I talked about this with a lawyer who deals with issues relating to Palestine in America yesterday.
[01:02:19]  And he's like, it's bad.
[01:02:23]  You know, like they might actually do this.
[01:02:25]  He's like, it's, it's, this is not really, I'm saying this not as a joke.
[01:02:29]  This is not legal advice.
[01:02:30]  Do not take my word for this.
[01:02:32]  I'm just like, I'm just saying this.
[01:02:33]  I mean, this is something someone told me, but he's like, it's going to be harder if it's like more than five years ago, but it's within five years.
[01:02:40]  It's like not as hard for them.
[01:02:42]  It won't be as hard for them to do it.
[01:02:43]  Because like, there's, there's, we were talking about this yesterday, you and me.
[01:02:46]  Like, there's certain questions that like they ask you on your application for like, I think both visa and citizenship and yada, yada, yada.
[01:02:54]  And like several of those are basically political questions.
[01:02:57]  Like, have you advocated for world communism is one of them.
[01:03:01]  That's on the green card application, too.
[01:03:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:03:03]  Opposition to organized government, which is, it's funny because even on the, on the, I think, State Department website, they say this is from like the early 20th century when they're afraid of anarchists and communists coming over here.
[01:03:13]  But a lot of this stuff stems from like also post-World War II red scare stuff.
[01:03:19]  And so I have a feeling they're going to have a very liberal interpretation of what lying and what the answers to some of this.

=== Jeffrey Epstein's Legacy (15:52) ===

[01:03:26]  Absolutely.
[01:03:26]  That's what they're going to be fucking testing.
[01:03:28]  All of this is going to the Supreme Court, by the way.
[01:03:30]  All of it.
[01:03:31]  Yeah.
[01:03:32]  And, you know, but who knows?
[01:03:34]  Who knows?
[01:03:35]  And also, who knows who gets lost in the mix of that, right?
[01:03:39]  Because that's going to take a long time.
[01:03:41]  And like, one, people will self-deport out of fear.
[01:03:46]  So there's like chilling effects.
[01:03:47]  Who knows how the universities respond?
[01:03:49]  We're going to talk about that in a second.
[01:03:51]  And like in the middle of this, while they're not being stopped by judges, which by the way, they are ignoring.
[01:03:59]  They're just ignoring.
[01:04:00]  They're just ignoring.
[01:04:01]  Until they don't or not.
[01:04:02]  We don't know.
[01:04:03]  Like people get lost in the mix and are getting deported.
[01:04:07]  It's, I mean, it is really like, we are like quickly entering or we're already in like a national security state dedicated to the safety of Israel in America.
[01:04:17]  And Tesla is in Tesla.
[01:04:19]  America is Israel plus Tesla.
[01:04:21]  Yes.
[01:04:21]  Yes, it is.
[01:04:22]  That is all it is.
[01:04:23]  Welcome.
[01:04:24]  And if you don't support either, you're a fucking terrorist.
[01:04:27]  According to a January article on Dropsite News, Batar is working with a company called Stellar Defense and Cyber using a tool called Nesher, which I think means like, well, that means like Eagle in Hebrew or whatever, which they claim can do facial.
[01:04:42]  What do you mean, don't look at you?
[01:04:43]  You're Jewish.
[01:04:45]  Don't you speak that?
[01:04:46]  I can say, where is my dog?
[01:04:48]  Where is my dog?
[01:04:51]  Efo Hakelev, Shelly.
[01:04:53]  I don't speak that shit.
[01:04:54]  I speak English here.
[01:04:56]  They claim they can do facial recognition even when the person has a mask on.
[01:05:01]  So Stellar is owned by, well, who knows what name he's using, but Eliyah Havila, who is formerly known as Ali Hassan Havela.
[01:05:14]  And there is, I'm not going to recommend you read Tablet because fuck Tablet.
[01:05:18]  By the way, Tablet, The Atlantic, and the Free Press.
[01:05:21]  What's the difference between any of these articles, these publications?
[01:05:25]  There is none.
[01:05:26]  Site design.
[01:05:26]  Site design.
[01:05:27]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:05:28]  Which actually Tablet is kind of the best of them, to be honest with you.
[01:05:31]  But fuck Tablet.
[01:05:32]  Fuck Tablet.
[01:05:34]  This is in, I sent you this profile.
[01:05:36]  Did you read it?
[01:05:37]  Yes.
[01:05:37]  It is fucking insane.
[01:05:38]  It's a really, this guy's subject to this profile that even for Tablet is crazy.
[01:05:47]  They're like, this is, even those guys are like, this is talk about it.
[01:05:52]  So he's from Lebanon.
[01:05:53]  And this is the guy who, by the way, is going to protest and taking pictures of people and trying to upload their faces to databases to get them deported or arrested.
[01:06:03]  This is the person doing that here in New York.
[01:06:05]  One of the people doing that here in New York City.
[01:06:07]  So he's from Lebanon.
[01:06:08]  He's Shia or was born Shia.
[01:06:12]  He got autistically fixated on Judaism in high school.
[01:06:16]  So what was one of the reasons that that happened?
[01:06:22]  He was having a bad high school experience.
[01:06:23]  Liz, can you read from the profile?
[01:06:26]  Hazing at the hands of an older female classmate resulted in his being transferred to an English language international school where a majority of the students were Shia.
[01:06:36]  So he got like fixated on Judaism after this bad experience with this older girl.
[01:06:42]  That's tough.
[01:06:43]  You don't really want to tell that to Tablet.
[01:06:45]  Then he moves to Houston.
[01:06:47]  So he's like pretending he's Jewish.
[01:06:49]  He doesn't actually convert it, but he's like getting into like learning about it.
[01:06:53]  His dad had moved due to chain migration to Houston.
[01:06:57]  Never actually converted to Judaism.
[01:06:59]  And it's clear he goes, he's like, he's like a complete pathological liar.
[01:07:02]  He's lying to everybody at all times.
[01:07:04]  The lies compound and compound and compound.
[01:07:08]  At one point, he's like best friends in college with like a secular Jewish guy and keeps asking him about stuff.
[01:07:12]  And the guy's like, I don't know, aren't you like an Orthodox Jew?
[01:07:15]  Like, well, don't you know all this stuff?
[01:07:17]  And he's like, I'm just seeing it if you know it.
[01:07:20]  This is, this is just, I mean, it's a really long profile.
[01:07:23]  Liz, could you read?
[01:07:24]  This is just a sample of what this guy goes through.
[01:07:28]  His mother didn't want to embarrass herself in front of a new boyfriend and sent her son to live with a Lebanese acquaintance over the holiday break, a cruel man who made Havilah clean the bathrooms as a condition for having a roof over his head.
[01:07:41]  It was in a state of profound despair that he matched with a woman in Brooklyn on Saw You at Sinai, a dating website for religious Jews.
[01:07:51]  So I am banned from that site, unfortunately.
[01:07:55]  Because that still exists.
[01:07:56]  We're trying to open people.
[01:07:57]  Yeah, let's see if it does.
[01:07:57]  Saw you at Sinai.
[01:07:59]  I'm sure it does.
[01:07:59]  Oh, yeah.
[01:08:00]  Oh, it certainly does.
[01:08:02]  It's a dating match.
[01:08:04]  Matchmaking.
[01:08:05]  Sign up.
[01:08:07]  474 engaged.
[01:08:09]  Mazel Taw.
[01:08:10]  Mazel Tom.
[01:08:11]  Monette and Paul.
[01:08:12]  Now, that's a name you don't hear very often.
[01:08:15]  Monette.
[01:08:16]  I was going to say I know a lot of Paul's.
[01:08:18]  I think it's like for like kind of arranged marriages from people.
[01:08:21]  Seems like the app.
[01:08:23]  Oh, Yellow Sunshine.
[01:08:25]  That's kind of a very.
[01:08:28]  I think it's a matchmaking service.
[01:08:29]  don't think it's like a dating site yeah i think they're kind of like i don't like what they're doing on this web page uh-huh Well, I'd like to be on that webpage.
[01:08:37]  So he's like pretending to be like a his like persona is that he's a Syrian Orthodox Jew.
[01:08:46]  He's living in Brooklyn.
[01:08:47]  He's like, by the way, that is a community.
[01:08:50]  I didn't know this, but according to the tablet article, they don't accept converts.
[01:08:56]  So they're like, you can't convert and like marry in here.
[01:08:58]  Like we don't fuck with that.
[01:09:01]  Which becomes a problem.
[01:09:02]  Becomes a problem for them.
[01:09:03]  So he matches with a woman from the Syrian Jewish community whose family had moved to the U.S. somewhat recently.
[01:09:08]  And so like they spoke Arabic and like he kind of he could kind of like get by because he would just speak in Arabic fluently with them and like kind of get around some stickier questions.
[01:09:21]  And then disaster struck.
[01:09:23]  The woman caught a glimpse of Havilah's passport, which listed his name as Ali Hassan rather than Elihah.
[01:09:31]  Havilah, a talented computer programmer, had participated in a national security agency hackathon for college students.
[01:09:38]  He used the email about the NSA event to convince the woman that he was an undercover agent, bro.
[01:09:45]  The lie ended up being useful for controlling her, which, side note, that's like an insane sentence, by the way.
[01:09:54]  He could say that any discussion of his alternate identity, which was in fact his true identity, could land him in prison.
[01:10:01]  When Havilah and the woman were married, he fabricated a congratulatory email from the NSA, quote, may you build a patriotic and American home.
[01:10:10]  The message read.
[01:10:12]  I love the idea of that.
[01:10:14]  Havilah writing his own hopes and dreams into the voice of a major American spy agency.
[01:10:19]  This is one of the people that is in charge of identifying American college students and just like random protesters to the U.S. government to get them deported.
[01:10:28]  What do we have here?
[01:10:29]  We have a group of psychotic Hitlerian alumni of a Ivy League university.
[01:10:36]  We have Miriam Adelson working hand in glove with the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
[01:10:41]  We have an unconvicted sex problematic fellow who has a legal notice on his website saying that he's never done a sex crime.
[01:10:51]  And we have somebody who is so mentally insane they wanted to be Jewish and marry an Orthodox woman.
[01:11:00]  No disrespect there.
[01:11:00]  Oh, very beautiful.
[01:11:01]  I have Orthodox women in my family.
[01:11:04]  This is crazy.
[01:11:05]  These people are crazy.
[01:11:07]  And like, this is what fucking drives me.
[01:11:10]  Sorry, I just, I got to talk about this a little bit.
[01:11:13]  Like the way that these people act as it's as if Jews are being hunted in the streets of American cities.
[01:11:20]  The reality is, and people, even like a lot of like left-wing Jews can't get, I'm sick of people being like so like, oh, self-reflective about my Judaism.
[01:11:29]  How do we rescue Judaism from Zionism?
[01:11:31]  I don't give a fuck.
[01:11:33]  Okay.
[01:11:33]  Frankly, I don't fucking care.
[01:11:35]  But these, like, these people act like we are being hunted, that there is this like fucking Holocaust going on against us.
[01:11:43]  Holocaust too.
[01:11:44]  Holocaust that's happening right now.
[01:11:46]  The reality is the precise opposite.
[01:11:49]  The precise opposite.
[01:11:50]  And not only these people are going to, and Trump is right.
[01:11:53]  These people agree with Trump.
[01:11:54]  When Trump calls Chuck Schumer a Palestinian, that he's not Jewish anymore.
[01:11:58]  Ironic, considering Schumer would probably think that about some of these people.
[01:12:01]  That is actually how these, if you're, if you're Jewish and you support this stuff, your Judaism is a voke.
[01:12:06]  And you're Arab and you support this stuff, you're a cockroach.
[01:12:08]  You're a fucking cockroach who's going to be squished.
[01:12:10]  That is what they're going after.
[01:12:12]  This is all that it's just like a return to 2002 or 2003 or something.
[01:12:18]  The reality is, you know, listen, I'm one of the top racial theorists in the United States of America.
[01:12:23]  The reality is the Jewish place in America right now is like a sort of super white, where actually we're the only group of people that it is illegal to discriminate against.
[01:12:34]  And in fact, if you and not even discriminate against, it's actually illegal to disagree with Jews.
[01:12:39]  The main main line of Jews, and the majority of Jews are in fact Zionists, if you disagree with the majority of Jewish people, then you can get deported with no due process.
[01:12:50]  You can be potentially denaturalized.
[01:12:52]  Exactly.
[01:12:53]  And like, you can, like, it doesn't make me feel good to say this, right?
[01:12:57]  Like, I'm not saying this as like some way to be like, it doesn't.
[01:13:01]  It disgusts me to say this, but that is how it is right now.
[01:13:05]  Like, whether that changes in the future, and I see, it was a funny, there was a Haaretz article recently about like, Jews shouldn't cheer this on because we could be next.
[01:13:13]  We are not going to be next.
[01:13:14]  I got to tell you that.
[01:13:15]  We're not going to be next.
[01:13:18]  You know, it is, it is just, these people are so gloating about their position of power right now in the country.
[01:13:25]  That is a, that is, I can tell you right now, that is a bad idea.
[01:13:28]  And I think it will, I think eventually this will, I don't know, but something bad is going to fucking happen here.
[01:13:34]  And it just, it makes me sick that like this shit is done.
[01:13:39]  This shit is done by people who are technically co-religionists or whatever of mine.
[01:13:45]  But anybody who tells you that there is absolutely no structural anti-Semitism in the United States right now, of course, there are many anti-Semitic people.
[01:13:53]  Many of them are in the White House.
[01:13:54]  Many of them are in the White House.
[01:13:55]  Exactly.
[01:13:55]  Many of them are very close to the White House.
[01:13:57]  Many of them are on the website Axe the Everything app.
[01:13:59]  These people do not give a fuck.
[01:14:05]  They don't care.
[01:14:06]  They can coexist with any of that.
[01:14:07]  What they can't coexist with is what they, what they hate more than anything are Arabs, Muslims, and then to a lesser extent, but they still don't like them, like left-wing, anybody who doesn't like Israel.
[01:14:18]  And it's just, I'm sorry, that's just the way it is.
[01:14:20]  I'm not trying to like say a fucking crazy thing here.
[01:14:23]  That's just, I don't see how you can see it anything different than that.
[01:14:26]  So when I see so much of this like, like mealy mouth shit from people who are like, oh, well, you know, but like, we have to prove that there's an anti-Zionist Judaism.
[01:14:36]  Well, the reality is the absolute mainstream of Judaism in the United States and I don't know elsewhere in the world.
[01:14:42]  I haven't been to Israel in Israel.
[01:14:45]  What happened in Israel has now happened in the United States, which is that there is absolutely no liberal Zionist project anymore.
[01:14:52]  Well, the liberal Zionist project turns out it's the fucking saying, it's Lacuddinism.
[01:14:57]  It's all they're all Lacudniks, which is, which is to say they're all Israelis right now.
[01:15:01]  And so like these people, they might say they might differentiate themselves in other ways and say, oh, I'm not like this.
[01:15:06]  I criticize Netanyahu.
[01:15:07]  At the end of the day, you are Netanyahu.
[01:15:10]  And it makes me fuck.
[01:15:11]  I wish it wasn't like this, but these people have shit and pissed on fucking thousands of years of Jewish history.
[01:15:17]  And frankly, we were, we have, Jews have given a lot to the world in the 20th century.
[01:15:22]  And then, boy, or many centuries.
[01:15:26]  But like, we really, we were really before the Holocaust doing a lot of great stuff.
[01:15:30]  And then the Holocaust happened.
[01:15:31]  And guess what?
[01:15:32]  These people just became, now it's our turn.
[01:15:34]  Now we're going to do that.
[01:15:35]  And so now every, it's just, I'm not being very clear here.
[01:15:38]  It just makes me fucking sick.
[01:15:54]  Before we continue, I want to read you something from a 2014 article from the Jewish Daily Forward.
[01:16:00]  Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are reportedly paying thousands of dollars for facial hair transplants that allow them to have fuller beards.
[01:16:06]  New York City plastic surgeons say observant Jewish men are among the prime markets for the procedure that runs up to $7,000.
[01:16:13]  Whether you're talking about the Brooklyn hipster or the advertising executive, the look is definitely to have a bit of facial hair, says Dr. Jeffrey Epstein, a facial classic surgeon who has to fund the procedure for 12 years, told the website.
[01:16:26]  Do you think he's changed his name?
[01:16:28]  No, he has.
[01:16:29]  No.
[01:16:30]  No.
[01:16:31]  He's got doctor in front of it, so you can differentiate him.
[01:16:33]  No, I'm doctor Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:16:36]  Cannot differentiate.
[01:16:37]  Question.
[01:16:38]  You're thinking of Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:16:40]  Question.
[01:16:40]  Yes.
[01:16:40]  Would you go to a doctor named Jeffrey Epstein?
[01:16:43]  If you're going to your health insurance, absolutely, yes.
[01:16:46]  You go to your health insurance and they're just like, oh, we've assigned you primary care position.
[01:16:49]  It's Dr. Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:16:52]  Absolutely.
[01:16:52]  Yes.
[01:16:53]  Because you were interested in talking to him.
[01:16:55]  No.
[01:16:56]  No.
[01:16:56]  Because he must be so fucking good if he's still practicing under that name.
[01:17:02]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:17:04]  Exactly.
[01:17:04]  He's like, I'm not letting that fucking hold me back.
[01:17:06]  Whatever that guy allegedly did that they say that he did, I'm not letting that hold me back.
[01:17:13]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:17:14]  So I would go there immediately and get checked out for my mumps.
[01:17:17]  Because I do have mumps.
[01:17:18]  No, you don't.
[01:17:19]  You haven't seen me shirtless in a long time.
[01:17:21]  It's measles.
[01:17:23]  Well, I get bumps all over me that have hairs going out of them.
[01:17:26]  So Batar is not the only group of people that are using AI.
[01:17:30]  Marco Rubio, Lil Marco.
[01:17:32]  What happened to Lil Marco?
[01:17:35]  Now he's big Marco.
[01:17:36]  Lil.
[01:17:37]  They should have do a little, like Lil Michaela.
[01:17:39]  It's Lil Marco.
[01:17:39]  Lil Marco.
[01:17:40]  Well, now that Marco Rubio is a soldier in defense of Israel, has the United States government done anything except for defend Israel since Trump got in?
[01:17:48]  It's crazy to me and crash the economy.
[01:17:50]  Marco Rubio announced that the State Department is using a program that they're calling Catch and Revoke.
[01:17:55]  Don't love that.
[01:17:56]  They're using AI, quote, just AI.
[01:17:58]  I mean, this is just according to Axia.
[01:18:00]  I love that.
[01:18:02]  I love that they could just say it's AI.
[01:18:04]  It's like, what does that mean?
[01:18:05]  They're using AI to go through student social media profiles of anyone here on a student visa, but apparently also via a green card.
[01:18:14]  So like anybody here.
[01:18:17]  Which I don't understand.
[01:18:18]  Is that students here on a green card or just anyone who's here on a green card?
[01:18:23]  And looking for anti-Israel sentiment.
[01:18:25]  I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
[01:18:27]  That's just what they're doing.
[01:18:28]  It's very similar to the Israeli effort that goes through.
[01:18:31]  They also have an office that is dedicated to going through people's social media and finding anything that's pro-Palestine or Hamas, but really Palestine.
[01:18:40]  There's an article in the New York Times, which obviously— From last year, yeah.
[01:18:44]  A lot of problems in the New York Times, but this article is really, it's like one of those things that you can send a family member and be like, damn, isn't it?
[01:18:50]  Look at what Israel does.
[01:18:51]  This doesn't feel like this feels a little different.
[01:18:54]  This is kind of a crazy story.
[01:18:55]  It's kind of a crazy story.
[01:18:56]  It's called How Four Social Media Posts Destroyed Her Life.
[01:19:00]  Yeah.
[01:19:01]  It came out in the magazine last year.
[01:19:03]  It is a crazy fucking read, but it's what they're trying to do here.
[01:19:09]  And I got to say, I don't really know what to tell people.
[01:19:12]  Like, if you're here on a visa, like, I don't know if I would have a public social media account right now.

=== Crazy Social Media Story (10:52) ===

[01:19:18]  I, like, even I wouldn't necessarily have had a private one.
[01:19:21]  Even if you have a green card.
[01:19:22]  Even if you have a green card.
[01:19:23]  Like, this seems like they're really going full court press on people right now.
[01:19:27]  Well, it's funny because that brings us to talking about Columbia, which we got to talk about a little bit because that's sort of the, you know, X marks the spot of where a lot of this is going down.
[01:19:40]  But there was a, I mean, reportedly there was a closed door meeting at Columbia Journalism School and Jelani Cobb, who is, I thought he was just a New Yorker cartoon head person, like a columnist.
[01:19:54]  I'm just like, I see the cartoon heads and I'm like, that's a New Yorker.
[01:19:57]  I got you.
[01:19:58]  You're either a cartoon head or you're the Wall Street Journal pencil face.
[01:20:02]  Yes, pencil face or cartoon head.
[01:20:04]  The two janitors.
[01:20:06]  I love that.
[01:20:07]  I would be a pencil face, obviously.
[01:20:09]  Obviously, I'd be a cartoon head.
[01:20:12]  And that's why we're a perfect pair.
[01:20:16]  No, but Jelani Cobb is also the dean of the journalism school.
[01:20:20]  And he, I guess he said this in a closed door meeting.
[01:20:22]  It was reported.
[01:20:25]  But he was like telling students, he's like, you shouldn't share stories.
[01:20:28]  You shouldn't share any posts.
[01:20:29]  You need to not share anything you've written on Gaza.
[01:20:32]  Like take it off your profile, basically.
[01:20:34]  And not just on Gaza, anything having to do with the protests or the encampments.
[01:20:38]  And he said, this was quoted in the piece.
[01:20:41]  If you have a social media page, make sure it's not affiliated with commentary on the Middle East.
[01:20:45]  Like very broadly, he said that.
[01:20:48]  And obviously, someone in this, you know, among the group, like a Palestinian student, objected to this, understandably.
[01:20:57]  And he replied, this was quoted, nobody can protect you.
[01:21:01]  These are dangerous times.
[01:21:03]  And he got a lot of shit for this.
[01:21:05]  Yeah.
[01:21:07]  But like, I get, you know, and I understand why, because it comes out very cowardly.
[01:21:13]  But I also think, and it is to a degree, obviously, but also it's realistic, which is, and this is the truth.
[01:21:20]  Like Columbia University, any university will not protect its students or its faculty.
[01:21:25]  Yeah, I, I, I, that's, you know, I agree.
[01:21:27]  I, there was a huge pushback on social media against Cobb for saying that.
[01:21:32]  And I don't know much about this guy.
[01:21:34]  I'm sure he's some fucking libtar journalist, whatever.
[01:21:36]  But like, I don't see how he's wrong there.
[01:21:39]  I mean, it seems very clear that not only will these, the university not protect you, they will actively help the government find you and deport you.
[01:21:48]  So it seems very, it seems unclear to me who will protect these people.
[01:21:52]  Yeah.
[01:21:52]  And like, and again, like, I have to start, like, I'm basically not saying anything different than Cobb here.
[01:21:57]  Like, I think it is, I think it is, would behoove you right now.
[01:22:00]  This would be advice.
[01:22:02]  This is advice.
[01:22:03]  This is not legal advice.
[01:22:04]  This is just right.
[01:22:05]  Not legal, not financial.
[01:22:06]  This is folksy advice.
[01:22:08]  Yeah.
[01:22:09]  I would say right now that if your situation is, I mean, I would say right now that I would not do any advertisement for any FTOs, whether you're a citizen or not, basically.
[01:22:18]  I wouldn't do any.
[01:22:19]  I mean, it's just, I would talk in very careful terms if you have to say something like that or if you feel the need to say something like that.
[01:22:27]  I think it's also good remembering that your phone is a fucking recording device.
[01:22:31]  Yes, it's a camera and every television you have in your house and every device that has a smart computer chip in it.
[01:22:41]  Yeah.
[01:22:41]  Yes, correct.
[01:22:43]  But it's just, you know, it's, I just don't see, I just don't see really what the argument against that is.
[01:22:50]  Yeah.
[01:22:50]  So we got to talk about Columbia real quick because all of this is happening as the federal government is announcing the cancellation of $400 million in grants and contracts specifically to Columbia.
[01:23:04]  They said that, you know, the school's continued inaction in the face of persistent harassment of Jewish students was the reason why they were canceling all of this federal money.
[01:23:15]  And they said they would cut more.
[01:23:16]  So there's about $5 billion in federal money kind of hanging in the balance.
[01:23:20]  Just to kind of put that in perspective, you want to put the, let's put Lady Justice up there.
[01:23:26]  And you got $5 billion on one end and some Palestinian students on the other side.
[01:23:30]  Just guess what is going to prevail.
[01:23:33]  So the interim president of Columbia, Katrina Armstrong, remember?
[01:23:36]  Because like the other one had to leave.
[01:23:39]  Oh, yeah.
[01:23:39]  These poor presidents, I mean, not poor presidents because they're all fucking sycophant weirdos.
[01:23:43]  And they're renewable.
[01:23:44]  Failed academics.
[01:23:45]  Who the fuck becomes the president?
[01:23:47]  You are a failure.
[01:23:48]  You are a failure.
[01:23:49]  You are an empty suit.
[01:23:51]  Katrina responded by saying that she took, of course, anti-Semitism very seriously.
[01:23:56]  It's probably the most serious issue in the United States today.
[01:23:58]  And they were cracking down on the protesters and just like doing everything they could to end the Hamas occupation of our nation's great Ivy League universities.
[01:24:07]  So I want to say she's basically not just like agreeing with everything, like agreeing with the premise.
[01:24:12]  There's absolutely no argumentation from her, trying to assuage the donors, the group chats, everything, just trying to calm this fire down, which is still burning from the protests last year, which is crazy to me.
[01:24:26]  Spineless, obviously, but also idiotic.
[01:24:30]  In response, the DOJ just like turned things up a notch, announcing that they were looking into whether Columbia University protests in particular violated federal terrorism laws.
[01:24:41]  See, that's something that you give these people an inch and they're going to keep coming.
[01:24:45]  I mean, that's the thing that's like these people, maybe they do understand.
[01:24:48]  They probably do.
[01:24:49]  It doesn't seem they give a fuck.
[01:24:51]  They don't give a fuck.
[01:24:51]  Like, if you agree to the one demand, they're just going to make 10 demands more.
[01:24:55]  And guess what?
[01:24:55]  You're going to agree to all 10 of those too.
[01:24:57]  Yeah.
[01:24:57]  So this is like in tandem with the investigation into whether the university is, quote, harboring undocumented immigrants on its campus.
[01:25:06]  So there's like all of these federal investigations happening under this backdrop of anti-Semitism and illegal immigration coming together in this beautiful holy trinity.
[01:25:16]  And so they're executing search warrants on that front as well.
[01:25:20]  Then, okay, so we were talking about the group chats, right?
[01:25:24]  Then the university received a very weird letter of demands addressed to the interim president and the board of trustees, basically a laundry list.
[01:25:33]  of what they called a precondition for formal negotiations regarding Columbia University's continued financial relationship with the United States government.
[01:25:42]  This is like so fucking inserious that it's like, do you know how we were talking about how Elon writes like the little kid trying to be the boss?
[01:25:52]  He writes like boss baby.
[01:25:54]  This is giving boss baby to me.
[01:25:56]  Okay.
[01:25:57]  It says, U.S. taxpayers, capital T, U.S. taxpayers invest enormously in U.S. colleges and universities, including Columbia University.
[01:26:06]  And it is the responsibility of the federal government to ensure that all recipients are responsible stewards of federal funds.
[01:26:14]  This is the new Liz voice.
[01:26:16]  It's your nerd.
[01:26:16]  You're a nerd voice.
[01:26:17]  You're a fucking boss baby, bitch.
[01:26:20]  Columbia University, however, has fundamentally failed to protect American students and faculty from anti-Semitic violence and harassment, in addition to other alleged violations of Title VI and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
[01:26:35]  So then there's like a list of demands to bring them into compliance.
[01:26:39]  And it's like, you need to expel and discipline all the students who participate in the encampments.
[01:26:44]  You need to get rid of whatever sort of like judiciary board they have.
[01:26:50]  That is, I assume that it pulls from different like departments and different, there's like student organizations represented and it's kind of more democratic.
[01:26:59]  I think that there's one judicial board that actually is run by like a former IDF intelligence lady.
[01:27:06]  Possibly, but they want to abolish the judicial board and basically put all of the disciplinary processes under the office of the president.
[01:27:12]  Strengthen the executive.
[01:27:15]  They want, they said they want to enforce strict time, place, manner rules.
[01:27:18]  What's that, man?
[01:27:19]  It means like you can't be outside at this given time.
[01:27:23]  You can't do, you can't have any kind of protest that's disruptive.
[01:27:26]  I mean, they would just say like you can't fucking do anything.
[01:27:29]  They would just be like, you can't have.
[01:27:30]  They want to ban all face masks in a pandemic.
[01:27:34]  In a fucking pandemic.
[01:27:37]  In the middle of a pandemic.
[01:27:39]  They want the university to formalize and adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.
[01:27:44]  Which we should add, as if we have not said this in the podcast enough, criminalizes, or I don't know, in this case, school rules, speech critical of Israel.
[01:27:55]  Yes.
[01:27:55]  Full stop.
[01:27:56]  It's even what the guy who wrote it says.
[01:28:00]  Yeah.
[01:28:00]  I mean, it's just.
[01:28:01]  It's just, that's the aim.
[01:28:02]  It's just, that's the aim.
[01:28:03]  Then there's a quote.
[01:28:04]  This is a quote from empower internal law enforcement.
[01:28:08]  The university must ensure that Columbia security has full law enforcement authority, including arrest.
[01:28:14]  Can you do that?
[01:28:15]  I don't even know what that means.
[01:28:16]  Like, this is what I mean that.
[01:28:18]  This is unserious.
[01:28:19]  So deputizing university security guards to presumably then funnel them into the NYPD.
[01:28:26]  Like, what are you talking about?
[01:28:28]  When I went to City College in San Francisco, they had like a city college cop car, but I don't know if they had guns.
[01:28:34]  They probably had guns, right?
[01:28:36]  Could they arrest you?
[01:28:37]  Wouldn't they just have to city college jail?
[01:28:40]  I think it's just like private security.
[01:28:41]  It's security, right?
[01:28:42]  But they just look like cops.
[01:28:44]  But are they talking about arrest them and put them in university jail or turn them over to the police?
[01:28:49]  Rikers building.
[01:28:50]  Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
[01:28:52]  No idea.
[01:28:52]  No idea.
[01:28:53]  Columbia needs to build a jail, which they already have on their campus.
[01:28:58]  It's called the school building.
[01:28:59]  I will say, like, this whole thing frustrates me so much because I'm like, they need to shut these places down.
[01:29:05]  Well, then the Middle Eastern, I don't know what this stands for, but it's the Middle Eastern.
[01:29:09]  Oh, it is.
[01:29:10]  Middle East, South Asian, and African Studies Department, M-E-S-A-A-S.
[01:29:16]  That's like their big attack.
[01:29:18]  So they want to begin the process of placing the Middle East, South Asian, and African Studies Department under academic receivership for a minimum of five years.
[01:29:26]  The university must provide a full plan with dates, certain deliverables by the March 20th, 2025 deadline.
[01:29:34]  Wow.
[01:29:34]  And come to think, 20 years later, and is that the victorious mooing of Barry Weiss that I hear?
[01:29:41]  This is, of course, Barry Weiss's sort of first political engagement of the world when she tried to get Joseph Massad, I think, was fired.
[01:29:49]  And now finally, Trump is doing it.
[01:29:52]  Now, you bring up Massad, and I want to like mention this because Franklin Foer wrote a piece in The Atlantic.
[01:29:59]  And it's a, it's gang.
[01:30:00]  We love it.
[01:30:01]  It came out like yesterday, I think.
[01:30:03]  Yeah.
[01:30:03]  The timing is impeccable.
[01:30:06]  Classic.
[01:30:06]  These guys are organized.
[01:30:08]  I'll say that.

=== Red Pill to the Woke (10:58) ===

[01:30:10]  And it's funny because you read through it and he doesn't say any of this explicitly, but the essay is organized to basically hit each one of these demands and say, like, you know, he talks about Mossad.
[01:30:28]  He talks about the way in which, the ways in which the Middle East, South Asian, and African Studies Department has changed over the years and how he's witnessed it and something needs to be done.
[01:30:40]  He talks about empowering all of the, every single thing that is listed, it reads one-to-one in this essay.
[01:30:49]  And I'm just going to say Franklin Fohr was an alumnus, which he mentions of Columbia.
[01:30:54]  Yeah.
[01:30:54]  Yeah.
[01:30:54]  I mean, Forrest's article is like very clearly a sort of liberal repost to Trump's coming down in Columbia, saying like, let's meet in the middle.
[01:31:05]  And like, you can take whatever invectivists.
[01:31:06]  But he's just repeating the same thing.
[01:31:08]  Yes.
[01:31:08]  There's no middle.
[01:31:09]  This is the funny thing.
[01:31:10]  And this is, I've noticed this so much.
[01:31:12]  And we'll talk about Schumer at the end of the episode, but like so much of this is like, I don't understand what the daylight between these people and Trump's people are because they seem to agree on every single issue to the hilt.
[01:31:23]  I mean, there's nothing like, I guess I just like have to, like, I can't see Forrest as anything but like an ethnic supremacist.
[01:31:31]  I mean, it's just in line with other ethnic supremacists.
[01:31:34]  I mean, it's just, that's how it reads to me.
[01:31:37]  Yeah.
[01:31:37]  It's a really, really upsetting piece.
[01:31:40]  So I don't encourage you to read it, but you don't need to.
[01:31:43]  You know what it says.
[01:31:43]  You know what it says.
[01:31:44]  And it also peddles a lot of lies and is missing a lot of citations.
[01:31:47]  That's the crazy.
[01:31:48]  Citations are needed in that.
[01:31:50]  I was shocked by how, I mean, it was almost free press level of like free association of just saying, oh, this happened and it was anti-Semitic.
[01:31:59]  Like this happened.
[01:32:00]  You know, there was a professor who said there was wealthy white donors putting pressure on the university.
[01:32:06]  There are.
[01:32:07]  I don't know what to tell you.
[01:32:08]  Was that professor, did that professor work for the New York Times?
[01:32:11]  Because it was reported.
[01:32:11]  And then Fox fucking news reported that.
[01:32:15]  Like, it just, it doesn't, it doesn't make any sense to me until you realize that, like, well, Foer's just, you know, I guess that, I don't know.
[01:32:23]  I guess he's a race guy.
[01:32:25]  You know, it's funny because you bring up, we were talking about the war on terror.
[01:32:28]  I want to say that like, even during the war on terror, things got baddie in a lot of the, you know, the period we call the war on terror, even though we just live in the shadow of the state created during that period.
[01:32:40]  The apparatus was not dissolved.
[01:32:43]  Things didn't get this baddie where they were going after.
[01:32:48]  They tried.
[01:32:49]  They kind of mentioned it a little bit, but they didn't actually go after full-on departments and like what they were teaching and all of this kind of stuff.
[01:32:56]  It didn't get like that.
[01:32:58]  There was, you know, Adam Tooze mentioned, who, you know, he's at, he's in the Department of History at Columbia, and he said, as one close observer of the scene has noted, I'm not sure it will be apparent to outsiders how many of these items are basically grievances from extremist alumni group chats translated into federal policy.
[01:33:19]  And I have to say, like, that is like how this goes now across the board.
[01:33:24]  You have the group chat of grievances gets exploded upwards and then applied into the real world.
[01:33:30]  And all of the contradictions that come from a bunch of fucking morons devising policy initiatives in their little like social media chat rooms are fully on display.
[01:33:43]  I mean, it's, we're at the point where like these group chats are literally just like making lists of people and then giving them to the government.
[01:33:50]  I mean, I don't know what, I don't know what you want to call that.
[01:33:52]  And you know, like Columbia is obviously being used to set an example and chill the rest of higher ed institutions around the country.
[01:33:57]  Like all of this goes hand in hand with all of the other attacks on federal education, right?
[01:34:06]  Like all of it and all and all of the attacks on the money, you know, and I have to say that like I think other people have referenced this, but I still want to mention it is that, you know, back in 2021.
[01:34:19]  JD Vance, who was then running for Senate still, he gave a speech at the National Conservatism Conference called the Universities of the Enemy.
[01:34:27]  Didn't he go to Yale?
[01:34:29]  I know.
[01:34:30]  He's a very tortured soul.
[01:34:32]  I just don't understand.
[01:34:32]  That's what the eyeliner.
[01:34:33]  I just understand.
[01:34:34]  And by the way, Usha, wow, first of all.
[01:34:40]  But I realized she has two JDs.
[01:34:42]  That's so stupid.
[01:34:45]  You should say that, give her that joke at her fucking retirement party.
[01:34:47]  I will when she retires from being her fucking his fucking wife because she needs she needs a less successful husband, I think.
[01:34:56]  So that she can shine.
[01:34:57]  That she can shine.
[01:34:58]  And I think that the classic South Asian-Jewish alliance needs to be cemented physically between the two of us.
[01:35:05]  But what did you say to the speech?
[01:35:06]  So it was the university of the enemy.
[01:35:08]  And he said, so much of what we want to accomplish, so much of what we want to do in this movement, in this country, I think are fundamentally dependent on going through a set of very hostile institutions, specifically the universities, which control the knowledge in our society, which control what we call truth and what we call falsity, that provides research and gives credibility to some of the most ridiculous ideas that exist in our country.
[01:35:31]  We have to honestly and aggressively attack the universities in this country.
[01:35:36]  And it's funny, you know, in that speech too, he also like fucking name checks the red pill.
[01:35:42]  Like he's like, I don't know if you've seen this movie, The Matrix.
[01:35:44]  I'm like, bitch, this is 2022.
[01:35:46]  The Matrix?
[01:35:47]  Yes.
[01:35:49]  The Matrix.
[01:35:50]  That came out in like 1998, didn't it?
[01:35:53]  And the whole...
[01:35:54]  Also, what is the difference between the Red Fill and Woke, by the way?
[01:36:00]  The blue pill is woke.
[01:36:01]  No, but I mean the process.
[01:36:04]  Oh, well, so you're just getting woke, but for the other side.
[01:36:08]  So it's the same fucking thing.
[01:36:10]  Being woke traditionally means in African circles of which I participate in.
[01:36:14]  It means that like your third eye is open and like Anubis and blah, blah, blah, blah.
[01:36:18]  Stay woke.
[01:36:19]  It's like that kind of stuff.
[01:36:20]  But then woke became like Jack Dorsey wearing a stay woke t-shirt talking to Ray.
[01:36:24]  And I think that the red pill is like wokeness, but for white or for guys and also whites.
[01:36:30]  I know.
[01:36:31]  I'm saying it serves the same rhetorical purpose.
[01:36:34]  Yeah.
[01:36:34]  Right.
[01:36:34]  So the red pill makes you trans.
[01:36:36]  Well, that's a whole nother thing.
[01:36:38]  Yeah.
[01:36:38]  That's from, yeah, that's a whole nother thing.
[01:36:40]  Well, JD trans.
[01:36:42]  Anyway, setting all that aside, I want to say, I do think that it's like the right wing really like misunderstands a lot of things about the universities, which is just that like the professors in the administration are conservative liberals.
[01:37:00]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:37:01]  I think the radicalism comes a lot from the students and not the other way around.
[01:37:06]  I would agree with that.
[01:37:07]  And the universities are grounds for molding those students less into those radical, whatever radical ideas they have and into actors that can go into the marketplace, whether that's in academia or professionally, and be good workers, you know?
[01:37:27]  And, you know, I think the skewing liberal that they see from these like tiers of, you know, within the academies is like less from any kind of like ideological point of view and more from a desire to maintain a position within a U.S. intelligentsia that views itself as like sophisticated and therefore has these liberal values.
[01:37:48]  Do you know what I'm saying?
[01:37:49]  I do.
[01:37:50]  I think that it's funny.
[01:37:51]  There is kind of like, I'm sorry, like, do you want Professor Cat turd?
[01:37:56]  Like, what do you mean?
[01:37:57]  Like, he's like Adrian Vermouli or whatever, but like, I mean, really, if, if you're going to try to replace all these like libtard professors with like right-wing people, like, who's going to be like Dean Andrew Tate?
[01:38:10]  You know what I mean?
[01:38:10]  Like, yeah, no, but I mean, that's the thing.
[01:38:12]  It's like, but also like, they're not even fighting over dismantling that system or whatever.
[01:38:17]  Like he's saying, it's like, they just want to be the ones in charge.
[01:38:21]  They're jealous of the cultural power of like that they see liberals have in like fucking Marvel movies and shit, dude.
[01:38:28]  And I hate to say it.
[01:38:29]  I hate to say it.
[01:38:29]  But Moldbug talks about this in his like his latest little sob piece.
[01:38:36]  I like, I do kind of like that he'll never be happy.
[01:38:39]  But he like wrote this like, you know, fucking one of his bullshit things.
[01:38:43]  And it's talking about how like he was like almost a little disappointed because like actually they don't want to destroy it.
[01:38:48]  They just want to make it their own or whatever.
[01:38:50]  Yes, that's what I'm saying.
[01:38:51]  It's the, it's the red pill to the woke.
[01:38:54]  Yeah.
[01:38:54]  It's the same thing.
[01:38:55]  I take no pills.
[01:38:57]  Wow.
[01:38:58]  But you are the drug.
[01:39:01]  I am love is the drug.
[01:39:05]  Back to the, I do want to say this though, back to the protests and the encampments is that like all of these statements about the protesters being terrorist sympathizers and all these like crazy quotes about everyone being Hamas from the Trump administration and then now from these alumni groups and from every publication.
[01:39:25]  This is the exact same thing that the universities were saying the entire time that the protests were going on.
[01:39:31]  Like everyone agreed with this.
[01:39:33]  There wasn't anybody like defending.
[01:39:36]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:39:36]  Like all of that was the same position that all of the university presidents, the administrators, trustees, and honestly, most of those fucking professors who are afraid to lose their jobs were taking during the encampments.
[01:39:52]  Yes, correct.
[01:39:54]  I mean, that's, that's like, it's, I mean, but again, like, like I said, like everything is like fucking, like, everything's a sod Syria now where like it all just crumbles in a week.
[01:40:04]  You know what I mean?
[01:40:05]  Like, none of these institutions have any backbone.
[01:40:08]  And I don't give a fuck about the institutions of the Ivy League, by the way, are actually in a way that the Republicans don't even mean here, but they actually are the enemy of the American people in many ways.
[01:40:19]  And the many types of people that these institutions produce, because yeah, you see a little blue-haired, pink-haired fucking or whatever radicals on TV, but like the vast majority of like the little stormtroopers walking around these places are like going to work at fucking Goldman Sachs or whatever, you know what I mean?
[01:40:35]  Or firing.
[01:40:36]  Mark Cuban's new Deloitte startup.
[01:40:38]  Exactly.
[01:40:38]  Yeah.
[01:40:38]  They're not even going to be the guy who fires you from your next job.
[01:40:41]  They're going to be the guy who fires that guy's boss's boss.
[01:40:43]  You know what I mean?
[01:40:44]  Their private equity firm.
[01:40:45]  So like, I don't have a lot of sympathy for a lot of this stuff, but I do, it is, I think a lot of this is also in line with like, I think a lot of like right-wing people now are just fucking, just, it is purely animated on like hate and like a mixture of hatred and jealousy.
[01:41:02]  And just like a sadistic thrill at tearing apart the like social contract.

=== Blockchain And Social Contracts (09:27) ===

[01:41:08]  Exactly, exactly.
[01:41:09]  And the thing that I, I, I, I wonder about is like there is no like new social contract that is ready to be signed by everybody.
[01:41:18]  There just isn't one.
[01:41:19]  And so like so much of this comes, that's what the blockchain is for.
[01:41:22]  That's what the blockchain is for.
[01:41:23]  But you're right about that though.
[01:41:24]  Like the dissolving of like all these social contracts comes at the same time as like the mass adoption of this just completely forced now.
[01:41:32]  Forced, forced adoption of brain-melting technology that makes you dumber and makes you a fucking slave.
[01:41:39]  And like it's all happening.
[01:41:40]  It does.
[01:41:40]  It does.
[01:41:41]  It makes you a fucking slave to like, first of all, to the algorithm, to the device in your pocket.
[01:41:45]  Who among us hasn't like felt their phone in their pocket and had the urge to just look at it when you're doing nothing?
[01:41:51]  You know what I mean?
[01:41:51]  I mean, but don't get me started on that.
[01:41:53]  But it's so much of it just coincides with that.
[01:41:55]  I mean, it's just, it's like so many people who are in charge right now, all they want to do is just ruin the world.
[01:42:03]  Even worse.
[01:42:04]  Ruin a world that they already made bad in the first place.
[01:42:08]  Including Chucky.
[01:42:11]  We had to mention this.
[01:42:12]  We got to talk about Schumer.
[01:42:14]  I love this guy.
[01:42:15]  I just heard about him.
[01:42:18]  So Chuck Schumer, I guess, has a new book out.
[01:42:22]  I didn't know these guys wrote books, but he has a new book out.
[01:42:26]  Chat GPT.
[01:42:27]  And he had to go on a book tour for it At an ill time because he's under a lot of fire from the angry progressives and Democrats and everyone in between.
[01:42:41]  I think he's actually under fire from like his, the centrists.
[01:42:44]  No, everyone.
[01:42:46]  Everyone.
[01:42:47]  And we're not going to talk about that.
[01:42:48]  Maybe someday soon we'll have an episode about the Democrats, but not today.
[01:42:52]  Except for about Chuck.
[01:42:54]  Good luck, Chuck.
[01:42:56]  He gave an insane interview to the New York Times that I first just read it.
[01:43:02]  And I got to say, you got to listen.
[01:43:05]  We're going to play the audio because it is so different even listening to it than the horror of just reading it.
[01:43:11]  It is astounding.
[01:43:13]  I took a walk yesterday and just constitutional.
[01:43:16]  I do.
[01:43:17]  I take multiple constitutionals.
[01:43:18]  As you should.
[01:43:19]  And when we're doing notes for episodes, I'm like, I got to get outside.
[01:43:21]  I can't be looking at the screen anymore.
[01:43:23]  And I go out, but I was like, you know, kill two birds, one stone.
[01:43:25]  I'll listen to a fucking, I'll listen to a little bit of Chuck Schumer.
[01:43:28]  I listened to a lot of bit of Chuck Schumer.
[01:43:30]  And boy, it was somewhere around the Navy yard that it struck me that this is one of the dumbest human beings that I have ever heard speak words into a fucking microphone that got transmitted through my goddamn headphones.
[01:43:43]  It is, there is no man who can meet the moment better than this man.
[01:43:48]  Chuck Schumer is, he's basically in charge of the Democrats now.
[01:43:52]  That's like what I got from the Senate minority leader.
[01:43:54]  He's a Senate minority leader.
[01:43:56]  He is incredible.
[01:43:58]  And midway through the interview, the host is like, the interview ended there, but then two days later, after talking to me about how to resist Trump, he said he was going to vote for the CR bill and then calls him back and he gives a bunch of bullshit.
[01:44:10]  We can't let the government shut down.
[01:44:11]  That's what Trump wants.
[01:44:12]  That's what JD Vance and Elon wants.
[01:44:15]  But the way that he taught, he just released a book called Anti-Semitism in America, a warning.
[01:44:22]  What was the name of Barry Weiss?
[01:44:25]  He's like, how to be anti-Semitic?
[01:44:27]  I think it was Barry White.
[01:44:28]  I think it was like anti-Semitism and how to fight it.
[01:44:32]  It's crazy.
[01:44:32]  The free press should register under Farah.
[01:44:35]  I'm sorry.
[01:44:37]  I don't know how you can read that website and be like, I mean, I guess I think the occasional, like, they like, I'm talking about these crazy trans or whatever, but like the vast majority of things in that publication, they have like 40 employees.
[01:44:50]  They're huge.
[01:44:51]  And it's all about just like Israel, Israel, Israel.
[01:44:54]  Her book is How to Fight Anti-Semitism that explores the history and current manifestations of anti-Semitism and attempts to provide strategies to oppose it.
[01:45:03]  If I had a life that would last for 10,000 years, I would read both of these books and compare the strategies because I'm sure that they'll.
[01:45:09]  Why would you listen to two of the worst Jews in America?
[01:45:16]  But one of the things that he makes very clear in that interview is that anti-Semitism is essentially indistinguishable from criticism of Israel.
[01:45:26]  And we'll play a clip of the audio right here.
[01:45:28]  And a lot of the slogans that people use either are or slide into anti-Semitism.
[01:45:34]  Okay?
[01:45:35]  So from the river to the sea, which is a Hamas expression.
[01:45:41]  Well, what does Hamas believe?
[01:45:43]  People don't pay enough attention to the evilness of Hamas in this whole discussion.
[01:45:48]  What does Hamas believe that there should be no Jews living from the Jordan River to the ocean?
[01:45:53]  And their view in their charter, they cite an old Arab proverb.
[01:45:57]  Is that a Jew behind the tree?
[01:45:59]  Chop him down and shoot him.
[01:46:02]  So when people say from the river to the sea, it edges on anti-Semitism, even though some of them may not know it.
[01:46:09]  How about by any means necessary?
[01:46:11]  Does I mean kill any Jew by any means necessary?
[01:46:15]  Okay.
[01:46:16]  And the one that bothers me the most, which I want to take a minute on, is genocide.
[01:46:21]  Okay.
[01:46:22]  I will say it's a word that a UN special committee has used.
[01:46:27]  Please, the UN has been anti-Israel, anti-Semitically against Israel, double standard.
[01:46:34]  I mean, you know, what can you say to that?
[01:46:39]  You know, he's asked a question about, you know, what the difference between anti-Semitism and legitimate, people always say this, legitimate criticism of Israel, because there's a lot of illegitimate criticism, but legitimate criticism of Israel.
[01:46:52]  And he's like, immediately just pivots to Hamas and talks about from the river to the sea.
[01:46:57]  And it's like, you sound actually in every single way like Edelson or like Trump here.
[01:47:02]  You know what I mean?
[01:47:03]  There's no daylight between these people.
[01:47:06]  Well, you really hear it when he talks about Mahmoud Khalil.
[01:47:11]  Look, I don't know all the details yet.
[01:47:12]  They're trying to come out and there'll be a court case which will determine it.
[01:47:15]  If he broke the law, he should be deported.
[01:47:18]  If he didn't break the law and just peacefully protest it, he should not be deported.
[01:47:21]  It's plain and simple.
[01:47:22]  What does breaking the law mean to you in this context?
[01:47:26]  You know, it's a legal issue and it's what are Columbia's rules and what does it mean breaking them and what are the legal rules about what did he do?
[01:47:34]  I don't know what he did.
[01:47:35]  I don't know what the charge against him is.
[01:47:37]  So it's a little premature to make a decision, except if he didn't break the law, he should not be deported.
[01:47:43]  If he broke the law, he should.
[01:47:44]  I mean, that's fucking crazy to me.
[01:47:46]  First of all, it's very clear that one, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about and doesn't know anything about the issue, which is a crazy thing to say when he's the senator from New York, the state that this is happening in.
[01:47:59]  He lives in the city that it's happening in.
[01:48:01]  And he's like, his staff didn't fucking prepare him for that question.
[01:48:06]  Or is he lying?
[01:48:08]  Exactly.
[01:48:09]  I mean, it's one of the, or is he Joe Biden where he just forgets where he is?
[01:48:12]  Yeah.
[01:48:12]  You know?
[01:48:12]  I mean, I don't know when he says, like, it's a legal issue.
[01:48:17]  What are Columbia's rules and what does it mean breaking them?
[01:48:19]  And what are legal rules?
[01:48:20]  What did he do?
[01:48:21]  I don't know.
[01:48:22]  Like he's trying to say, he's first of all, he's saying that if he broke laws, the quote-unquote laws of Columbia, which that doesn't exist, by the way, there are laws of the university.
[01:48:31]  There are rules in a university, but they're not legally enforced.
[01:48:35]  Rules of a university, that should be legally, that's like a legal basis for deporting a green card holder.
[01:48:42]  Like, what are you fucking talking about?
[01:48:44]  What are you talking about?
[01:48:45]  And the sad fact remains is that like he cannot square what he says that he believes in with what the reality of what's actually happening.
[01:48:56]  Yes.
[01:48:56]  Because his views necessarily follow into what is actually happening.
[01:49:01]  Yes.
[01:49:01]  And that's true of a lot of people right now.
[01:49:04]  A lot of these fucking liberals are getting exposed by their own beliefs.
[01:49:09]  You know what I mean?
[01:49:10]  And they try to like, they try, they'll say at length, they'll basically sound like Netanyahu when he's addressing Congress or Trump or whatever or Bannon.
[01:49:21]  And then, but then they'll come to a different, they'll have to like, they'll either try to come to a slightly different, maybe more legalistic conclusion, or they'll just say, I don't know.
[01:49:29]  Or like, we'll have to look into it more.
[01:49:31]  Right.
[01:49:31]  I mean, there's, there's, there's.
[01:49:32]  It's up to the courts.
[01:49:33]  It's not, it's literally not up to the courts.
[01:49:36]  It's not.
[01:49:37]  What's crazy to me is it just seems like there's like, there's like nobody standing up for just fucking regular people for law and order in this country.
[01:49:45]  I was, I don't know if I said this when we were recording or not, but this is, we really are in fucking anarcho-tyranny right here.
[01:49:50]  These people are doing whatever they want to whoever they want.
[01:49:54]  And it's, and it's, and the institutions that were set up to like liberal, I mean, this thing is a joke, liberal democracy.
[01:50:01]  And I am a liberal Democrat of a certain type.
[01:50:04]  I say that.
[01:50:07]  I don't know.
[01:50:21]  But maybe we should become conservative.
[01:50:24]  I just don't think it's the time.
[01:50:26]  You don't think so?
[01:50:27]  But there's been a vibe shift.
[01:50:28]  Is there?
[01:50:29]  Yeah, here in downtown New York.
[01:50:30]  Yeah, no one talks about vibe shifts.
[01:50:32]  Here in downtown New York.
[01:50:33]  I just found out about this place, downtown New York.

=== People Laugh at Emotions (07:57) ===

[01:50:36]  Interesting.
[01:50:36]  In the art scene there.
[01:50:37]  And I was thinking maybe we should get a little bit into Donald J. Trump.
[01:50:41]  They're making some really compelling artwork.
[01:50:43]  Oh, are they?
[01:50:45]  My God.
[01:50:46]  I'm just like, it's exasperating.
[01:50:49]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:50:50]  Like, it's crazy that the entire state apparatus is just like going after people who don't like Israel.
[01:50:57]  I mean, and Tesla.
[01:50:59]  And Tesla.
[01:51:00]  And Tesla.
[01:51:01]  That actually was the genesis before.
[01:51:03]  It's funny.
[01:51:04]  We came up with this.
[01:51:05]  Tesla is the Israel of car makers.
[01:51:07]  It really is.
[01:51:08]  Everything is just variations of Israel.
[01:51:10]  Yeah.
[01:51:10]  All these people are Israel.
[01:51:12]  All these things are.
[01:51:12]  Except for you and me.
[01:51:14]  Everything's Tesla.
[01:51:14]  Everything's Israel.
[01:51:15]  Everything's fucking, everything's shit.
[01:51:18]  Why doesn't anyone make anything beautiful?
[01:51:21]  Well, babe, that's the abundance manifesto.
[01:51:24]  We got to get Ezra on the podcast.
[01:51:26]  We got to talk abundance.
[01:51:27]  We got to get it.
[01:51:28]  We have to read the book.
[01:51:29]  Can we do one of those things?
[01:51:30]  What are people?
[01:51:31]  What are college students doing?
[01:51:32]  I'm going to try and say it like Parker Pose.
[01:51:34]  Abundance.
[01:51:35]  Abundance.
[01:51:37]  I got to tell you, I've been.
[01:51:39]  It's abundance.
[01:51:41]  I have seen the White Lotus now.
[01:51:43]  You know, I have seen The White Lotus, and I have to say that contrary to, I guess, popular opinion, I didn't know.
[01:51:49]  I'm like really enjoying this first season.
[01:51:52]  I really am liking it.
[01:51:54]  People are saying it's bad, but I like it.
[01:51:56]  I'm watching it.
[01:51:57]  I think it's like very enjoyable.
[01:52:00]  I didn't like the first two seasons, though.
[01:52:03]  You didn't like the first two when you stopped because she had this is crazy.
[01:52:07]  I stopped watching the first one at some point.
[01:52:10]  I can't remember when, because it was like way too vonwell for me.
[01:52:16]  I can't, I don't like feeling like I'm self-satisfied at like watching.
[01:52:24]  It was like, all I could imagine was like the middle class being so excited to watch themselves eat shit on screen.
[01:52:29]  And it just like was like a little too much for me.
[01:52:31]  And then the second one, I can't, I stopped at some point and I was just watching it because I just watch things while I'm cooking sometimes to as noise background, one of those like little piggies.
[01:52:43]  And I just like never picked it up again because I wasn't, I wasn't invested.
[01:52:48]  I have to make a complaint.
[01:52:50]  This is a little, this is, I guess, now an unofficial section, but this is another thing I got to complain about.
[01:52:58]  I went to the movies Sunday.
[01:53:02]  What did you see?
[01:53:03]  I saw, I got to look it up.
[01:53:05]  I did look it up, but then I immediately forgot it.
[01:53:07]  So I closed my computer.
[01:53:09]  By Pedro Almodivar called The Room Next Door.
[01:53:14]  Sure.
[01:53:15]  And I saw this at the worst movie theater in New York City.
[01:53:18]  Which one?
[01:53:19]  Quad?
[01:53:19]  No, The Metrograph.
[01:53:20]  Oh.
[01:53:21]  Oh.
[01:53:22]  I'm not a big Amador.
[01:53:23]  And, you know, it's funny.
[01:53:24]  I see sometimes people.
[01:53:26]  Well, I don't know if I'd ever seen any of his other movies before.
[01:53:28]  No.
[01:53:29]  And I'm looking now and I feel like I saw Time Me Up, Tie Me Down at some point.
[01:53:35]  Maybe I didn't.
[01:53:36]  I think I did see that movie when I was much younger at the behest of a woman.
[01:53:40]  And so I likely just fell asleep.
[01:53:43]  Sitting front row, by the way.
[01:53:46]  Viewer?
[01:53:46]  Yeah.
[01:53:47]  Why?
[01:53:47]  Did you get there late?
[01:53:48]  No.
[01:53:49]  I think it's assigned seats, but that's my friend who bought the tickets.
[01:53:54]  So you're like, how's your neck?
[01:53:56]  Oh, it's crazy.
[01:53:57]  The seats there are very uncomfortable anyway.
[01:53:59]  It was insane.
[01:53:59]  Yeah, you can't tell me.
[01:54:00]  I was getting sick.
[01:54:01]  There's no point.
[01:54:02]  But I couldn't leave.
[01:54:04]  But I got to tell you, anyone who's seen this movie, what the, I would have killed that woman the first night.
[01:54:11]  It's like about some lady who's like going to go commit suicide and she asked her friend to go with her and she wants her to be in the room next door.
[01:54:17]  She's got stage four cancer or whatever.
[01:54:18]  She wants to go out on her own terms.
[01:54:20]  And I'm like, how unfair of her.
[01:54:22]  I would have strangled you.
[01:54:24]  I would have taken it out of your hands and sent you to heaven myself.
[01:54:27]  It was just, it was ridiculous.
[01:54:29]  But the thing I got to complain about, and I've seen people talk about this before.
[01:54:33]  I haven't been to the MetroGraph, I think, since we did that thing there.
[01:54:36]  Yeah.
[01:54:36]  Actually, no, since I've never seen a movie, no, no, actually, I went, I saw, that's why I met David Johansson R.I.P. Oh, right.
[01:54:45]  Genuine R.I.P. But people laugh there at every line of dialogue.
[01:54:54]  Isn't that like a whole thing that's happening?
[01:54:56]  I saw it on the internet that they were like, there's like this new cool trend of people laughing in the movies and in MetroGraph.
[01:55:03]  That's what I've seen before.
[01:55:04]  I've seen that too.
[01:55:05]  And I was like, why?
[01:55:07]  I don't know.
[01:55:08]  And we were both like looking at each other like, what the fuck is going on here?
[01:55:12]  Because there was maybe three or four lines in the movie that were like obvious laugh lines.
[01:55:17]  You gave a little chuckle to.
[01:55:18]  But people were laughing like everything awkward.
[01:55:21]  And it was, it was the whole thing made me feel psychotic.
[01:55:25]  But wait, I don't get it.
[01:55:26]  Is it like a bit?
[01:55:27]  I don't understand.
[01:55:28]  I think there are people.
[01:55:29]  I can't engage.
[01:55:30]  Let's favor it.
[01:55:31]  I mean, it's that.
[01:55:33]  People, when I fucking saw Twin Peaks Firewalk with me, it wasn't the worst, but it was the same.
[01:55:39]  People see something like uncomfortable.
[01:55:41]  Yes.
[01:55:42]  Or just like kind of weird.
[01:55:44]  And it's like, I'm going to laugh.
[01:55:45]  And it's like, I want you to know that I'm laughing.
[01:55:46]  So I'm going to do it real loud.
[01:55:48]  Oh, it was.
[01:55:49]  There was a couple next to me.
[01:55:50]  Doesn't mean they don't understand what's happening.
[01:55:53]  I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, you struck onto something there with like people feel uncomfortable in sort of emotional situations displayed on screen.
[01:56:01]  When we say people, like, I've literally never seen this or felt this.
[01:56:03]  So who is it?
[01:56:04]  I, I was looking, all kinds of people, because Ub and I were sitting there and I, like, the people next to us, also in the front row.
[01:56:11]  So I don't know how you're laughing because I'm in torture, but we're looking at them and they're dying.
[01:56:17]  They're the loudest laughers in the place.
[01:56:19]  And it's just like, I don't know, you know, a stylishly dressed, you know what I mean?
[01:56:25]  Stylishly, they're wearing big clothes.
[01:56:28]  Asian couple in their life.
[01:56:29]  But it sounds like it's like now mimetic.
[01:56:30]  And now people probably do it in order to like perform the thing that they've read about.
[01:56:35]  So yes.
[01:56:35]  So we see this next to us, big clothes, Asian couple in their late 20s.
[01:56:40]  Behind us, lone guy in his early 40s, white man laughing.
[01:56:45]  Two seats down from him, a couple of women laughing.
[01:56:48]  And I'm just like, I don't understand.
[01:56:50]  What's the joke here?
[01:56:52]  Am I the joke here?
[01:56:53]  Because I certainly feel like that.
[01:56:55]  You wouldn't get it.
[01:56:56]  It's, it's, and, and it's, you know what?
[01:56:59]  And I said this, and I, and I believe it.
[01:57:01]  I'm glad they made a movie theater for those kind of people.
[01:57:03]  But it's not contained.
[01:57:05]  It's not, it happens other places.
[01:57:07]  It's everywhere.
[01:57:08]  I mean, people talk about this online, I feel like all the time.
[01:57:10]  Like all the, like the film Twitter people are always complaining about.
[01:57:12]  But this has been happening.
[01:57:13]  You know, it's cliched, but I feel like lockdown pandemic, people forgot how to go to have to act in public, but like how to go to a movie theater or a concert, or it like was all I'm doing at home and then I'm just going to act like I'm at home wherever I am.
[01:57:26]  Kind of thing.
[01:57:27]  But I don't get the acting.
[01:57:28]  I don't, I don't think it's not a normal response to media on the screen.
[01:57:33]  I think it's like I can't engage genuinely with what's happening, or I refuse to, or I don't want to.
[01:57:38]  So I'm going to be like always removed and kind of performing this, like, I don't know.
[01:57:42]  It's like people filming, recording on their phones because like, I'm not actually here, but I'm like recording it, or I'm like kind of pantomiming.
[01:57:49]  I don't know.
[01:57:49]  There is a distance, I think.
[01:57:51]  There is a distance.
[01:57:52]  Like, it's almost almost like people mediate between themselves and the screen with a laugh.
[01:57:57]  You know what I mean?
[01:57:57]  Like they admit it so that it prevents them from doing anything.
[01:58:01]  It was, it was so strange.
[01:58:03]  But it's another case.
[01:58:04]  And this is what all this shit feels like.
[01:58:06]  It seems like there's no adult in the fucking room.
[01:58:09]  Everyone acts like a fucking child at all times now.
[01:58:12]  It drives me crazy.
[01:58:14]  It's another thing.
[01:58:16]  Another thing I'm pissed off about.
[01:58:18]  This society is going to shit.
[01:58:22]  But you know what?
[01:58:23]  We'll stay doing this podcast.
[01:58:24]  I'm Liz.
[01:58:25]  My name is Brace.
[01:58:27]  Of course, joined by Producer Young Chomsky.
[01:58:29]  And this has been Truanon.
[01:58:31]  We'll see you next time.
[01:58:32]  Bye-bye.