True Anon Truth Feed - DEBATE RECAP: RELOADED Aired: 2024-09-11 Duration: 01:09:47 === Matt Gates' David Schwimmer Face (14:33) === [00:00:07] That's me doing our non-election music, election music that I just decided to do because we have breaking special report Trump Kamala. [00:00:20] Who ate and who left no crumbs? [00:00:23] Dogs vs. Cats edition. [00:00:26] Do not come in that tree. [00:00:35] Hello! [00:00:36] Welcome to the show. [00:00:38] My name is, well, no, let me introduce us actually all. [00:00:43] We are America's foremost Gen Z slash Gen Alpha election coverage team, bringing you the news that those old fogies of Gen X and Millennial, Millennial, so corny, fucking Fedora, Reddit, beer, all that stuff. [00:00:58] No, we're different. [00:00:59] We're Gen Z. We're at you right now. [00:01:02] My name is Brace, and I identify as an elf. [00:01:07] I'm Liz. [00:01:08] I'm not doing any of that. [00:01:09] I'm corny millennial Liz. [00:01:11] I'm the elder corny millennial Liz. [00:01:14] We are, of course, joined by producer Yam Chomsky and this. [00:01:17] He follow you is how old? [00:01:19] This is true. [00:01:21] We're doing, this is our special election stuff, right? [00:01:25] Yeah. [00:01:25] Oh, we're doing it. [00:01:26] We're doing a special election episode because I got to tell you, last night was one of the most incredible goon sessions of my entire life. [00:01:34] Now, longtime listeners of the show know that as it's a huge, obviously presidential tradition for me, that I masturbate during the entirety of every televised debate since 2008. [00:01:45] Since 2008? [00:01:46] Since 2008. [00:01:47] Before that, non-stop. [00:01:49] Non-stop. [00:01:50] No, so I think all told, I have about 43 hours in the cave. [00:01:56] But prior to that, I was under 18 and it's not legal to do. [00:02:00] 2012 was really the intense year for you. [00:02:02] That was crazy. [00:02:03] Romney was really, I mean, hard to look away from that guy. [00:02:08] And I haven't stopped looking, honey. [00:02:10] I haven't stopped looking. [00:02:11] Okay. [00:02:11] I hate this entire, I hate this entire TV. [00:02:14] Well, let's shift. [00:02:15] Let's shift. [00:02:16] Let's shift. [00:02:18] Last night, a TV program happened. [00:02:21] And no, it's not succession. [00:02:23] It was Kamala versus Donald J. Trump. [00:02:28] Donald Trump moderated by a big-ass faced guy. [00:02:34] I don't know what that shit's called. [00:02:35] John Muir, right? [00:02:37] But his shit, he has. [00:02:38] Is this John Muir or Tim Muir? [00:02:40] John Muir? [00:02:41] I think John Muir might have been the Muir Woods. [00:02:43] He was that guy, but then this guy was also a Muir. [00:02:46] Perhaps his descendant. [00:02:47] Not a Dumu. [00:02:49] I got to tell you, this guy has what I like to call David Schwimmer face, which is where a guy's face is kind of long. [00:02:56] You know what I mean? [00:02:58] Yeah. [00:02:59] It's a long book. [00:03:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:03:01] Long book, a little bit wide, too, but not proportionally. [00:03:04] Yes. [00:03:04] Didn't like looking at him, but I got to tell you, the female moderator on this motherfucker was Faya Fuego, beautiful. [00:03:15] And I don't know if this is her first gig. [00:03:17] I'm not a big TV guy, but I'll tell you, I would like her to not be moderating, but perhaps to be across from me in a debate over whether you say yes to getting married to me, because you are a beautiful young lady, and I hope you have a good career. [00:03:30] Wait, who's on the other side of the debate? [00:03:31] Me, me, but I'm going to win the debate by asking the final question. [00:03:38] Liz, yes, well, you've been looking forward to this for a while. [00:03:43] What are your initial thoughts? [00:03:44] Have I? [00:03:45] I thought it was so boring. [00:03:47] So boring. [00:03:48] It was really, really boring and really even as far as like all the state election pageantry goes and all this like fucking circus. [00:04:00] And it's like, all right, I'm getting it up to pretend that this fucking matters. [00:04:05] It's really hard for me to pretend. [00:04:07] Like there was legitimately a question. [00:04:10] I don't know if you caught this towards the end of the debate. [00:04:13] And we'll go through it. [00:04:14] Don't worry, people listening, but I just want to mention of how this is how unserious this entire show was. [00:04:20] That literally one of the questions at the debate was, do you want Ukraine to win the war? [00:04:26] Yeah. [00:04:26] Do you want like what a what a bizarre, unserious, insane, like bait question that means absolutely nothing, that is not grounded in any reality, that is literally asking like your personal opinion about like it has nothing to do with what the president does, thinks what the State Department do, what DOD will do, what NATO will do, or anything like that. [00:04:48] Do you want to win? [00:04:49] Do you want them to win? [00:04:50] It's like, what are you fucking talking? [00:04:52] What are you fucking talking about? [00:04:54] The funny thing is, though, to that particular question, Trump, I don't believe, said yes. [00:04:59] I think he just said the same exact kind of question that I have to ask whenever people who don't understand my arcane and oftentimes nonsensical politics ask me a question like that where I'm just like, I just want to kill him to stop. [00:05:12] I just want to kill him to stop. [00:05:14] I mean, hoomstamong us. [00:05:16] But I'm serious. [00:05:17] It's just like so unserious. [00:05:18] And like, you know, the flip side of that is that to your point, all of their answers were completely unserious and not just in the like skillful politician way, because let's be honest, neither of these fucking jokers up there are skillful politicians. [00:05:33] I'm sorry. [00:05:34] Trump is washed. [00:05:36] He is. [00:05:37] In fact, I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I asked you guys this question last night. [00:05:41] I sent in a text. [00:05:43] Is our goat washed? [00:05:45] And I think that's a real, that's a real question. [00:05:47] I think a lot of our fellow Republicans, which I'm not going to say I'm Republican, I'm both. [00:05:52] I'm undecided, but I am registered in both as both. [00:05:56] In different states. [00:05:57] In two different states. [00:05:58] I registered as both. [00:05:59] So I am in the middle. [00:06:00] I just want to make that clear. [00:06:01] But I think that's a real question because when he got up on that stage last night, let's just talk about that. [00:06:07] No audience, by the way. [00:06:08] Can we just say that is very weird? [00:06:11] No. [00:06:11] We need to bring the people back. [00:06:13] We need fucking, we need Ken Bone in there. [00:06:15] We need five Ken Bones. [00:06:16] We need me. [00:06:17] We need you. [00:06:18] We need that chick who asked John McCain. [00:06:20] We need that chick who asked John McCain if Obama was a Muslim. [00:06:24] We need this guy who threw a shoe at George Bush. [00:06:27] You know what? [00:06:28] We need that little malformed character who took a motherfucking pot shot at Trump a couple weeks ago. [00:06:32] I think they should put Greta in there. [00:06:34] Yeah. [00:06:35] I think that they should have an entire audience just full of characters that we recognize from past seasons of running for president. [00:06:42] Yeah. [00:06:42] I think that would be really good. [00:06:43] I think they should have a reunion show. [00:06:45] I think they should have Jimmy Carter in there. [00:06:47] Let's get the Covington boys out there. [00:06:50] We should get that the Native American fellow too. [00:06:53] And also the black Israelites that were also in there. [00:06:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:06:58] Yeah, I think that's a good thing. [00:07:01] We could do like an immemorium of political happening content moments. [00:07:07] And then it could like, you know, the camera can pan over all of their faces and we can have a little remembrance moment. [00:07:14] Wouldn't it be great if Donald Trump was like, when he like last night, he was like, black Indian, I don't know what the hell you are to Kamala Harris. [00:07:22] If it panned over to DeRay and he's just got his arms crossed in front of the blue vest like that. [00:07:28] And then like doing Wakanda? [00:07:31] Then when he says, no, he's not doing Wakanda. [00:07:33] He's got his arms. [00:07:33] I thought that's what he meant by crossing his arms. [00:07:36] No, no, no. [00:07:37] And then it pans over. [00:07:38] And then we have Vivek Ramaswame going like, we don't claim her. [00:07:43] Indians don't claim her. [00:07:44] What about Andrew Yang? [00:07:46] Let's get him in there. [00:07:47] What's he up to? [00:07:49] You know, and you know, we got to get Chafee up in there. [00:07:53] And we need Sean McKelwey. [00:07:55] Yes. [00:07:56] We need, we have, this is the thing. [00:07:58] Sometimes it feels like America is the side of a cliff because we have so many goats. [00:08:03] And yet when they choose to have a televised thing like this, we put them all in the goat pen. [00:08:08] We're making milk from their fucking, or making cheese from their milk. [00:08:12] We need to put their milk all over America. [00:08:14] We need every single one of these motherfuckers up there to be like, we should have, well, like, I'm like, we should have Milu Yiannopoulos. [00:08:23] And we should also have Eric Adams. [00:08:25] And we should have them sitting next to each other just enjoying democracy like this. [00:08:29] I love that. [00:08:30] That would be great. [00:08:32] Trump, the light wasn't good on him last night. [00:08:36] It wasn't great. [00:08:37] I mean, she looked really nice. [00:08:41] I will say. [00:08:42] You think she was radiant? [00:08:44] I think, no, I think she was very matte. [00:08:47] But I think that was appropriate for the camera. [00:08:51] All of her colors were working well. [00:08:53] She was really leaning into the kind of purple. [00:08:54] It was like very violet, which was nice. [00:08:59] He, yeah, I don't know if the lighting was that flattering on him. [00:09:03] I'd love to know a little bit about ABC's advanced team and what they had planned. [00:09:09] Because as I'm sure we'll talk about it, I wouldn't say this was a real fair fight. [00:09:15] Old ABC really stacked the deck against old Donnie there, but I feel like that's to be expected. [00:09:20] You think Fox would do the same on the other side or whatever. [00:09:24] But he didn't look great. [00:09:26] I think right off the bat, Kamala walking out and like shaking his hand and being like, hello, like caught him off guard in a weird way. [00:09:35] And she was trying to kind of like big dog him a little bit, which is funny because she's so much smaller than him. [00:09:41] But I know he did feel kind of like Orthodox Jewish. [00:09:44] Like, I don't know if I should touch a woman. [00:09:46] Yeah. [00:09:47] Which was like, dude, what? [00:09:49] You didn't like plan all this from the get-go. [00:09:51] I mean, before we get into kind of what he said, which many things were said last night. [00:09:57] At least we could say that. [00:09:58] Many things were said. [00:10:00] They did a lot of talking. [00:10:02] We can definitely walk away with at least like one, like one major takeaway is that assembling the crack team of Matt Gates and Tulsi Gabbard to do debate prep was not a good idea. [00:10:16] Wait, Liz, that was his team. [00:10:18] You didn't know this? [00:10:19] Yes. [00:10:20] I mean, I just Matt Gates and Tulsi Gabbard. [00:10:24] Full disclosure, I did not remember that there was a debate that was going to happen last night until yesterday when you told me when we were recording. [00:10:34] I know. [00:10:34] I didn't know that it was happening. [00:10:36] I just forgot that it was happening. [00:10:38] Tulsi Gabbard is that's somebody that from the second she came on the scene, even when she was like a Bernie person, I was like, this is a freak. [00:10:48] This is a freak. [00:10:50] This is a freak. [00:10:51] And it was crazy because she had her freak adherence. [00:10:53] I think there was a lot of crossover with the RFK types. [00:10:56] But I'm like, this is a freak. [00:10:58] And if you can't tell that this person is a freak, then your critical thinking is so insane that they should feed you to the Haitians. [00:11:06] Like, this is this is crazy. [00:11:10] And then Matt Gates up in there. [00:11:11] You know, I watched a video just before we were recording here of Matt Gates. [00:11:16] It was like a house GOP like put out a video or something. [00:11:18] It's him, him doing some grilling about prosecutors. [00:11:21] He code switches in like the Kamala Harris way. [00:11:24] Like he did like different codes. [00:11:27] He did like the Atlanta Kamala Harris like black scent. [00:11:31] Really? [00:11:32] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:11:33] He did it in there. [00:11:34] He's like, I mean, I'm not going to do it. [00:11:37] I'm not going to do that. [00:11:38] But that's going to be a business decision. [00:11:41] The business decision right here. [00:11:42] I could do it. [00:11:44] I could do it. [00:11:44] But you know what? [00:11:45] You also could do? [00:11:46] Make a business decision. [00:11:47] I could make a business decision. [00:11:49] I'm not going to do it. [00:11:50] That's what I always say when LeBron ducks, like contesting at the rim so that he doesn't get. [00:11:59] It's like oh, he made a business. [00:12:00] Yeah, exactly that's what I'm doing right now. [00:12:02] I'm not trying to roll my ankle, if you know what I mean. [00:12:05] I'm done. [00:12:06] But Matt Gates is a crazy movie. [00:12:10] You don't want a guy who's that horny. [00:12:11] If you make Matt Gates, he's too horny to be involved in any big decisions. [00:12:17] I'll just say that I don't think he should be near Tulsi Gabberg. [00:12:20] No, she's too old. [00:12:22] He likes to be young remember, to be honest. [00:12:26] No, but I believe you, we did an episode about it, I know, but it was confusing. [00:12:32] It was confusing. [00:12:33] It was it was his best boy and him were flying up a like 17, eight year old girls to DC and then I remember the crazy guy in Orlando shut up. [00:12:43] But my point also is like it wasn't just that he was unprepared seemingly, which was very weird, but also that like he was way too online and it wasn't just the Haitian shit which we'll obviously we'll talk about yeah, but it was like giving, and this is not the first time and it's not the first time we've said this on the show in our 2024. [00:13:05] I just had to remember the year election coverage um but, like the entire Trump campaign, this go-around is giving, like Bernie Surrogate 2020 vibes where like, everyone is way too online and you're like getting falling into the trap of like letting your opponents like make the debate about like uh, reparations programs, like remember when that happened with Bernie on on the stage? [00:13:34] Or like letting this stuff from online, where it should be contained, like seep into the real world and thinking that it makes you like big dog, like looking cool, doing whatever, but you look like a fucking freak and like crazy person. [00:13:50] You know yeah, I mean we no we've we've, kind of we I think we have an agreement we we we, obviously we talk about this behind the scenes, the three of us where like, the more I see that a politician online is online, then I'm like you're doing worse and worse. [00:14:04] I'm not talking about Trump's like tweeting how he used to do, or whatever. [00:14:07] That's a little different but like if someone's like in the trenches like, for instance, the posting congressman, one of your well, one of your personal goats, will stencil or whatever oh yeah, Will Stancil, like once I realized that that guy was like still arguing with people on the internet instead of like running for office or whatever. [00:14:24] I was like, oh he's gonna lose, like this is not, like you can't be doing this kind of stuff. [00:14:28] I mean, Taurus is a kind of big difference with this, because I mean he's got the backing of exactly gets paid, it's. [00:14:35] It's like a side hustle for him. [00:14:37] Um, but yeah, I I thought that was a mishap. === Sewing Mems Shut (06:29) === [00:14:40] I will say though, to to push back on that a little bit. [00:14:43] My lady Kamala Harris's team is made up of Generation Z bisexuals who are opposing the Charlie XCX lyrics. [00:14:53] And so, but I'm like, I'm not so sure that stuff made it onto the debate stage, which I think actually is a pretty big difference there. [00:15:01] Yeah, I also don't know. [00:15:03] I mean, I think my assumption is that Kamala's team was rather than trying to figure out how they could sneak meme magic onto the stage with her. [00:15:13] They're probably just trying to be like, okay, can we get you to just like deliver these words properly? [00:15:19] Or like, can you say, do you know like what you're going to say? [00:15:23] She, I mean, right off the bat, so shaky, so nervous, which understandable, but just had like immediately like the most nonsensical, not in the like Kamala, like nonsensical zand out kind of response, but just like non-response response that just kind of set the stage for the both of them saying a bunch of bullshit that didn't mean anything. [00:15:50] Yeah, you know, I actually missed the very beginning of the debate because I was, I was doing something. [00:15:57] But I tuned in probably like 10 minutes after it started. [00:16:01] Yeah, you know, you texted me or you texted the group, the Trunon chat. [00:16:06] I think she's drunk. [00:16:08] And I know. [00:16:09] I'd like to flip that on its head and Liz consider this. [00:16:12] What if she was sober? [00:16:14] And what if she's usually so drunk that her team preventing her from having a couple of airplane bottles of fucking svetka or whatever, that gave her the shakes. [00:16:26] She sounded, I don't know if it was like the position of the mic or whatever on her. [00:16:33] It was wet sounding. [00:16:36] She had a mouth that. [00:16:39] Yes. [00:16:39] And I know I'm cursing. [00:16:40] Because I know that Young Chowsky was hearing that and was wincing. [00:16:45] And I, you know, and I got to say, it's probably going to bite me in the ass because I'm using the B team mic at home today. [00:16:50] I don't have, I don't have the regular one. [00:16:54] But it was a wet, it was a wet Kamala. [00:16:59] I mean, that's just what it was. [00:17:01] You can be wet in more places than the pussy. [00:17:03] A lot of people don't know that. [00:17:04] You can be wet all over your shit. [00:17:06] You can, dude. [00:17:08] I'm not. [00:17:08] I will say she did. [00:17:09] Some peas popped on that mic. [00:17:13] There was, it was. [00:17:15] She needs one of those. [00:17:16] What are those things called? [00:17:16] She needs like a spit shield or whatever. [00:17:19] A pop filter. [00:17:20] A pop filter. [00:17:21] She needs a pop filter over the fucking mic. [00:17:24] It was a little tough. [00:17:26] She was like, Donald. [00:17:30] Donald would have you believe that. [00:17:33] I don't know. [00:17:33] I mean, I don't know what they were saying. [00:17:35] But on that note, though, I can't use the P word again, but Donald Trump's neck last night. [00:17:42] No, please. [00:17:44] I'm sorry. [00:17:44] I was watching it in a room full of guys and one girlfriend. [00:17:49] And everybody, including the female, saw that there was something crazy that was dangling off of Donald. [00:17:55] And I don't know if it's because he's gotten older. [00:17:58] I don't know if it's because I'm strong goal. [00:18:02] Certainly something you can plug into. [00:18:04] Donald, if you are listening to this, or if one of your beautiful Habsburgian children is listening to this, you got to get the neck vagina fixed. [00:18:13] It is just sew it. [00:18:14] It feels like you could sew it shut. [00:18:15] You can't sew it shut. [00:18:17] It needs a lift. [00:18:19] This is what I think he should do. [00:18:21] I think he should stop running for president. [00:18:25] Just like, get this is what I think you should do. [00:18:28] Take the my pillow bailout money from your supporters. [00:18:32] Do what you got to do. [00:18:33] Fill those coffers. [00:18:36] Go away for like a little bit. [00:18:38] Get a lift. [00:18:39] Get a deep plane. [00:18:41] Come back rejuved, ready to rock. [00:18:44] And I want you running for mayor of New York City. [00:18:47] This is, this is, you know, I think he could win. [00:18:50] I think he could. [00:18:51] Especially after a deep plane and a necklift. [00:18:54] I think he could win. [00:18:56] I think that what he'd have to do would have to dye his hair or something. [00:19:00] I don't seem to enjoy it more. [00:19:02] It's like, you don't want to fucking, first of all, you don't want to be on the phone with Abdul, sending him photos of his house or whatever you're doing, like negotiating with the tax. [00:19:10] First of all, yeah. [00:19:11] Also, pause, bro. [00:19:12] Also, crazy story that I really want to hear about more, by the way. [00:19:17] Why do you know where this other man's house is at? [00:19:20] Is that supposed to be a like, was the idea there that he was like flexing? [00:19:25] Like, I know where you live, Abdul? [00:19:27] Like, yeah, yeah. [00:19:28] What do you think he's doing? [00:19:30] It's like, it's not like, is this, is this where you're at? [00:19:32] I'm coming over. [00:19:32] It's like, I know where you live. [00:19:34] I'm going to drone your house. [00:19:35] Yeah. [00:19:35] I just want to picture their house. [00:19:38] Donald knows that about the U.S. Like, I don't know if that's that impressive. [00:19:42] Well, I would assume we kind of, well, no, we probably do know where their house is, but I was like, isn't the whole point we don't know where Abdul's house is? [00:19:48] Because like they're winning and like we're losing. [00:19:52] Well, this was back then. [00:19:53] I don't know. [00:19:53] Who knows? [00:19:54] Yeah. [00:19:54] I mean, they did have this treaty with him. [00:19:56] Anyway, I'm like, you don't want to be dealing with that. [00:20:00] You don't want to be fucking dealing with passing the debt ceiling act, which is literally the first thing that the president is going to have to deal with. [00:20:07] Next year, it's going to be the entire legislative session. [00:20:09] It's going to be fucking boring as hell. [00:20:10] No one cares. [00:20:12] Sucks. [00:20:12] Stupid. [00:20:14] Yeah. [00:20:14] Get out of here. [00:20:15] You don't want to do that. [00:20:16] Think about like, you could be kissing babies, kissing construction workers. [00:20:21] You could be building high-rises. [00:20:24] You could be like awarding marathon winners at the New York Marathon. [00:20:30] You could be back on talk shows. [00:20:32] You could, he could probably have his own Broadway show again, which obviously was like his origin story, which is very cool. [00:20:39] What you didn't hear, you didn't see this? [00:20:42] No, I know. [00:20:43] No, I don't really follow politics. [00:20:45] So Trump, apparently, Trump back in the day, and I'm talking like 70s, like before he went into real estate. [00:20:53] Jesus Christ superstar era. [00:20:57] He tried to produce or he did produce a show on Broadway and it closed and he was like so upset about it. [00:21:06] And so then he went into real estate. === Even If It's True (07:38) === [00:21:09] What? [00:21:10] This is like something I saw online. [00:21:12] So I'm just assuming it's true, which is why I'm repeating it on the podcast. [00:21:15] Also, even if it's not true, I want to believe it because I love that for him. [00:21:18] And I think he should go back there. [00:21:19] Make Broadway great again. [00:21:21] He's got to go back. [00:21:22] He's got to go back. [00:21:23] He's got so many feelings about Andrew Lloyd Weber. [00:21:26] You know he does. [00:21:27] I want this man producing the next cats. [00:21:32] I agree with that. [00:21:35] And I really think he would clean up the town after everything that Eric Adams has done to it. [00:21:39] Unfortunately, the only cats that are on. [00:21:42] Check this one out. [00:21:42] Check this one out. [00:21:43] Unfortunately, the only cats that are on Donald Trump's mind these days are the ones he claims are being eaten. [00:21:49] So elephant in the room. [00:21:52] Well, the elephant's gone because it's been eaten. [00:21:54] It's been eaten. [00:21:55] Trump says that they're eating dogs in Springfield, Ohio. [00:21:59] Not just dogs. [00:22:00] The cats and any other kind of pets. [00:22:02] And then they're eating pets. [00:22:04] And you could tell also there was a pause before he said pets. [00:22:08] And you could see he was trying to think of another animal. [00:22:12] And he just, his brain went pets and pets because he already said the dogs, the cats. [00:22:18] Birds is right there. [00:22:19] But my brain went for pets. [00:22:21] So, Liz, about a week ago, all right. [00:22:24] You guys both know this. [00:22:25] And probably our audience does at this point as well. [00:22:28] I have troubles when I sleep. [00:22:32] I sleepwalk a lot. [00:22:33] I wake up sometimes with like a, it's the, in panic in the morning, or sometimes even with acid reflux. [00:22:42] And the other morning, and then sometimes often what I do is I watch, I put on body cam videos or interrogation videos on my phone and I kind of fall asleep. [00:22:53] Like do you think that maybe there's some cause and effect going on there? [00:22:57] Yeah, they cause me to fall asleep again. [00:23:00] And that's the effect is I get a couple more hours of sleep. [00:23:02] So like it's from 6 a.m. to whatever. [00:23:05] Anyways, one of those videos that I watched, thus I'm pretty up on crime. [00:23:10] And about a week ago, I see a video and it's a dash cam or it's like a body cam footage. [00:23:15] I didn't watch all of it because I fell asleep pretty quick, but it's of like a cop and it's, I think it's at nighttime. [00:23:20] And there's like a sort of delirious looking lady in a driveway. [00:23:26] And they're like, did you eat a cat? [00:23:28] And they're like interrogating her because she ate a cat. [00:23:32] Now, This is pertinent because I believe it's this footage that has like made its way into like the right-wing infosphere. [00:23:43] And that's this woman who I believe this also took place in Ohio, but not in Springfield. [00:23:48] And this woman is a black lady, but she's not Haitian. [00:23:50] Like she's very obvious. [00:23:51] You can tell by her accent, like American woman. [00:23:56] And that this lady became a Haitian immigrant in Springfield that is eating cats. [00:24:02] Because wasn't there also the photo of the Haitian man carrying a goose? [00:24:08] Yes. [00:24:08] And I got to tell you this, which my grandmother always said were very oily birds. [00:24:14] Really? [00:24:14] I, you know, I she's like, you can't eat a goose. [00:24:16] It's too oily. [00:24:17] It's an oily bird. [00:24:18] You can eat a goose, my dear. [00:24:20] In fact, for some of us, we spend years only on goose. [00:24:25] I got to tell you, I saw the picture of the black guy with the goose. [00:24:31] I don't know if he was from Haiti, but I got chased by geese a lot when I was a kid, and they're vicious creatures. [00:24:37] And so I love them. [00:24:38] But we weren't allowed to hurt them. [00:24:42] And so part of me is always like, kill a goose. [00:24:45] I have no, I guess that I've read, I have no idea if this is true. [00:24:49] I've read that that might be in Springfield. [00:24:51] I don't know. [00:24:52] But I'm just going to go ahead and say, I don't think people are eating cats and dogs in Springfield. [00:24:58] I think that's like one of those things that like, it's like Nazi guys are trying to do meme magic on Twitter to like the Haitian thing has been really good for them. [00:25:06] Like they, they can't say, oh, they have fucking, they're like, damn, it's an entire country of people with 60 IQ and it's blah, Plus, a lot of right-wing crazy people have been over there on like missionary trips when they're young and it can be like racist about it 20 years later. [00:25:21] And so this is like grits for the mill for like the like online like hard right stuff. [00:25:27] But it when you say something like that on stage, you're going to sound like a nut. [00:25:33] And I think Trump might have sounded a little bit like a nut when he was talking about it last night. [00:25:37] Yeah, I mean, it sounded crazy. [00:25:38] It was also funny because then the moderator was like, oh, sorry, Donnie, fact check, debunking moment. [00:25:46] Actually, the mayor of Springfield said that that isn't happening. [00:25:50] And then Don, old Donnie Deals, dealt himself a poor hand because he came back with, I saw it on TV. [00:26:00] It was on my TV. [00:26:01] I saw it on the TV, which is just not a great explanation. [00:26:06] It's not a great explanation. [00:26:09] Yeah, really. [00:26:10] I mean, I, I, yeah, I don't know if that's going to work for him. [00:26:14] I, it's all of this, it's the same thing. [00:26:16] Stuff that works for whipping people up online that can seep into cable news like craziness is one thing. [00:26:23] But when you're supposed to sort of have an air of gravitas, even when it's as something, something as like morally debased as running for president of the United States of America, like you look like an absolute joke saying this kind of shit on stage. [00:26:42] Yeah, I fully agree with that. [00:26:44] And it's like, it's the Haitian like eating dog thing is so crazy to me that like, cause it seems like so, it's like, it's like 1910s level racism or whatever. [00:26:58] Like the Chinese are coming over here and fucking, you know, they probably did say about Chinese. [00:27:03] It's just like, I just, I don't know. [00:27:06] I mean, maybe it'll work. [00:27:07] That's how I was like, this is so stupid and racist that like, I bet it can work on a lot of people, but I have no idea. [00:27:14] It just, you sound the, I think the thing is, though, is even if it was true, which I, again, I don't think it's true. [00:27:22] Even if it was true, you sound like a nut saying that they're eating pooches out in Springfield. [00:27:28] Like, it's, you're really like, you're playing to the people who are already inclined to believe that kind of stuff, which are already like morons who are going to vote anyways. [00:27:37] Again, it's like, I just think it's like, I think it would have done more damage if it stayed online and then Trump did a wink and a nod to it at a campaign rally or two, versus on the stage on ABC defending this. [00:27:50] Like having to defend a like insane claim like that, when also it's just so. [00:27:56] I mean, immigration is your shit, dude. [00:27:59] Like you could have just stuck to like the, the facts that you stick with you didn't have to go all the way into they're eating your you know they're eating Spot and Fido and whatever. [00:28:10] Like it's just absurd, you know. [00:28:12] Well yeah, I mean, I don't even know if he mentioned because there was a kid that got killed in in Springfield by, like I think it was a Haitian dude who, like either didn't have a license or like never really learned how to drive or America or whatever, something like I'm like, if he stuck to like shit like that, I think he would sound less insane to people that are maybe like not as stupid, but like it's, [00:28:40] he's going with the dog stuff and the dog stuff is just I don't know how that's gonna play. [00:28:44] I don't know how that's gonna play. [00:28:45] I don't know. [00:28:46] I just genuinely don't. === Abortion and Transgender Debates (16:03) === [00:28:47] Yeah. [00:28:48] Also, in general, it's hard to scream about eating dogs when you're campaigning with RFK Jr. [00:28:52] I'm sorry. [00:28:53] Exactly. [00:28:54] Because your guy ate a dog. [00:28:56] I'm sorry. [00:28:56] Like, listen, I know a lot of guys who eat dogs because of their religion, which there was one you guys have never heard of. [00:29:02] But like, one of your main boys just famously ate a, well, didn't he say it was like something else? [00:29:09] I think he ate a dog. [00:29:11] Didn't he kind of say it was like another thing he ate? [00:29:14] I don't know. [00:29:14] I just, all of it is just so undignified and stupid. [00:29:17] I'm like, I think I said this to you guys last night, but I'm just like, what the fuck? [00:29:20] Like transgender migrants eating your pets is like WhatsApp level copypasta. [00:29:25] Like we used to be a fucking country, you guys. [00:29:28] I will say this about the transgender, because it's like they're putting transgender, they're making, wait, transgender, they're making, they're getting illegal immigrants in prison to get transgender surgery. [00:29:39] Well, that thing was part of Kamala's 2019 platform. [00:29:44] Is transgender surgery for illegal immigrants in prison? [00:29:48] Yes. [00:29:48] She was like, I have, I saw this, like, someone put up an old like CNN clip of it too. [00:29:55] But that was like something that she like campaigned on where she, because remember, she had that like insane platform where she was just like, I'm taking all these crazy positions and like people talk about this on Twitter and we're just going to do it. [00:30:05] I mean, 2020 was a different time. [00:30:08] And she was like, well, if there are people in ICE detention facilities who need transgender surgeries, then the state should provide them. [00:30:16] That was the platform. [00:30:19] You know what? [00:30:19] I forgot about that because I was like during the period. [00:30:22] Remember when like Democrats and Liz Warren was like, what did she say? [00:30:25] Liz Warren was like, I'm going to let a seven-year-old trans child pick the person who's like the Secretary of Education. [00:30:32] One of the funniest, I think that you cannot beat that in terms of a policy position. [00:30:38] Probably the most goaded policy. [00:30:43] Because you know that her originally, she probably thought of some stupid schmalty shit. [00:30:47] Like, I'm going to let a seven-year-old pick like the Secretary of Education. [00:30:51] And then like once like, like, like the 2019s rolled on, she was like, well, I got to get another one. [00:30:59] And she added transgender. [00:31:02] But it's so fun. [00:31:03] I'm like, I'm like, maybe here's, I think we can, as a centrist position, my Ken Bone position is, if we catch anybody eating a dog, they get titties no matter what, whether they want them or not. [00:31:15] You're getting a pair of double D's, brother. [00:31:19] It was like, Trump, it's funny because like that might, that was like, if, okay, maybe that was Kamala's position, but Trump now sounds insane talking about it. [00:31:28] Yeah. [00:31:29] And like, it kind of backfires on him. [00:31:31] I will say, like, both of them both sounded at various points like they were doing campaign stump speeches, but on the stage. [00:31:40] And that just does not like, it just does not translate very well. [00:31:45] Kamala was really bad at it. [00:31:47] Like, she was sometimes like, she was just, she felt really, really, really rehearsed. [00:31:52] And, like, we, I think we talked about, maybe I was talking about with other people last night, but like, it's like, it felt like there was, no, it was with you. [00:32:00] There were so many layups that she just completely missed. [00:32:03] Yeah. [00:32:04] She, I think she was at her best when she was trying to bait him, which she like did very well when she got him. [00:32:11] Like, basically, like her first answer, I know you didn't see it, but was like total gobbledygook. [00:32:15] It was her talking about like it was like the only question on the economy, by the way, which was like so insane. [00:32:21] They just didn't talk about that at all anymore after that. [00:32:25] But she talked about some nonsense about middle class and like, oh, we also need to be small business. [00:32:30] And I'm small business, middle class president. [00:32:32] Like, none of it was an answer. [00:32:33] And it was just like annoying and bullshit and like rehearsed nonsense. [00:32:39] And then Trump was very strong because he's strong on the economy. [00:32:42] He usually has these like good answers about immigration and tying it to her and to Biden and whatever. [00:32:48] Right. [00:32:49] So he was like strong in the first 10 minutes. [00:32:51] And then she kind of like pivoted and started kind of baiting him a little bit. [00:32:54] And he just like lost his shit. [00:32:57] And she was like, at one point, she said, like, oh, people, you know, they leave your rallies like bored and like, like, you know, they leave early because they're so bored. [00:33:08] And he, I'm like, Don, how are you fucking taking this? [00:33:11] And he just laughed that up like a Haitian right in front of a dog. [00:33:14] And he could not stop himself and just fucking like lost his shit, screaming about like, you know, how that wasn't true, losing himself in details, like not answering questions, lashing out. [00:33:30] Like, and it was just like, man, you got to be more disciplined than this. [00:33:34] But I think it's like, he's not. [00:33:37] Like, he's not. [00:33:38] You know, it's funny. [00:33:39] Right when he was doing that last night, I was, I was watching when she's, when she went into the thing about the rallies, I was like, what is she doing? [00:33:49] This dumb motherfucker. [00:33:52] And I think I might have even texted you guys that. [00:33:54] And then I was, then once he started talking about, cause you know what it was in response to, I think that was in response to a question on immigration. [00:34:01] And I was like, ooh, because Trump, it's really easy to be like really tough on immigration and like kind of demagogue about that kind of stuff. [00:34:09] And like Kamala is going to have a tougher time with those questions no matter what, because she has been borders are all this stuff, blah, And I was like, how's she going to get out of this? [00:34:19] Oh, she's totally dodging the question. [00:34:21] But she actually prevented him from getting most of the time to answer the question by going off on his own thing about it. [00:34:27] So I was like, actually, that's smart. [00:34:29] Cause not only did she dodge it, but she made him essentially dodge a question that he would have a strong answer to by talking about his rallies. [00:34:37] Yeah, it was actually pretty good watching that. [00:34:40] So she was good when she was doing that kind of stuff. [00:34:42] She also had weird like fucking online brain moments that were odd. [00:34:47] Like at one point, she literally was just like tried to blame Trump for China covering up the lab leak. [00:34:57] Oh, I missed that. [00:34:58] Yeah, she like came out and was just like, oh, it's your fault that like it was under you that China, you know, didn't disclose to us that COVID-19. [00:35:08] I can't remember what the line was, that like COVID came from the Wuhan lab. [00:35:11] And I'm like, whoa, Kamala is a lab leak girl? [00:35:17] That's new information. [00:35:18] I feel like that. [00:35:19] Now I want her to talk a little bit more about that. [00:35:22] What is, I actually realized, like, what is the consensus opinion on where COVID came from? [00:35:29] There is no consensus opinion. [00:35:31] Everyone decides like what they want to say based on what the political environment is at the time. [00:35:37] So for example, when people were saying that it was what Kamala said last night, Kamala was kicking people off Twitter for it. [00:35:45] You know what I'm saying? [00:35:46] Well, I don't understand. [00:35:49] So it wasn't the pangolins. [00:35:52] It wasn't the pangolins. [00:35:53] It was now a lab leak. [00:35:55] I feel like everyone picks where they think COVID came from based on what the opinion of the political people they don't like. [00:36:02] Like the opposite of that one. [00:36:04] Yes. [00:36:04] My thing is, what if it just came out like that? [00:36:08] Like, what if it just, what if God made it, which is kind of where I think all life and everything comes from. [00:36:13] But maybe that's just my opinion. [00:36:15] I think one other thing to talk about too is just the, or that one thing that Kamala was very strong on, which we should shout out, was the abortion question. [00:36:28] The abortion question. [00:36:30] Which like, obviously, I think it's predictable that she would be strong on it. [00:36:34] Although I don't think that she was like as strong as like some of these fucking pundits are like fucking. [00:36:39] They're crazy. [00:36:40] The glazing Liz is fucking crazy. [00:36:43] She doesn't need it. [00:36:44] She doesn't need it. [00:36:45] You know, she's using some road milk. [00:36:47] She's fine. [00:36:47] She's glazed. [00:36:50] But the fuck is road milk. [00:36:51] Don't worry about it. [00:36:52] People listening, if you know, you know, and I'm sure everyone knows. [00:36:58] But watching Donnie try to wriggle himself out of that question is so crazy because you like everyone, everyone with a fucking half a brain, which to be fair is not many people in America, knows that Donald Trump does not give a fuck about abortion. [00:37:16] And in fact, like has said, I mean, not on the record, but people have reported that he's said to his team and believes that like the repeal of Roe v. Wade could cost him the election this time. [00:37:30] That seems pretty obvious. [00:37:31] Yeah. [00:37:32] Yeah. [00:37:32] And like Donald, I mean, Donald Trump is not. [00:37:35] So watching him try to one, care and try to make people believe that he cares about this while also knowing that it's like a political fucking bomb and trying to like get himself around it was really funny to watch. [00:37:49] And he can't do it. [00:37:50] He can't square the circle. [00:37:52] It's interesting his new, like it's clear that they came up with the idea. [00:37:57] Like to some people, he's like, I repealed Roe v. Wade. [00:38:01] And the implication of that is like. to make it harder to get an abortion. [00:38:06] But now he's like, once now he's running for president, like, or like, he's not in the prime or whatever. [00:38:10] Now it's like real time. [00:38:11] He's got to like appeal to people. [00:38:13] He's like, actually, I did what everybody wants because famously, kind of everybody was unhappy with Roe v. Wade because like, you know, it wasn't codified, whatever, like it wasn't passed by Congress. [00:38:23] It's not a law or whatever. [00:38:26] I don't know how the government works, but you know what I'm saying. [00:38:28] Like people wanted stronger protection for abortion and then pro like or anti-abortion people wanted abortion to be gone. [00:38:37] And so now he has to pretend like, actually, I gave everybody what they want, which is to kick it back to the states. [00:38:42] So now it's even more Democratic that you can decide on the state level, you can actually have abortion forever. [00:38:49] And he just sounded like a like, I'm sorry. [00:38:52] If you think that anywhere in the country, they're yanking babies right out of that gaping fucking hole. [00:39:00] I'm not talking, I'm talking C-sections. [00:39:02] I'm talking about the aliens chestburster style hole. [00:39:05] That's how I came out, which no doctor support necessary, by the way. [00:39:08] First, first fetus-led fucking C-section in history was me. [00:39:15] Yank it out and then pulling out a fucking .45 caliber and blowing that thing away. [00:39:19] You are insane. [00:39:20] Like he's talking about fucking afterbirth abortions, which he's calling executions. [00:39:27] This is crazy. [00:39:28] They're not doing this. [00:39:29] And like, I thought Kamala was really weak on responding to that because like, I know if their whole tact is saying like the Republicans are weird, the Republicans are weird, or the Republicans are weird. [00:39:39] The thing is, all these people are fucking lying through their teeth, but the Republicans' lies are often crazy. [00:39:44] Like the Democrats' lies will just be like some fucking bullshit. [00:39:48] I don't know. [00:39:48] But like the Republicans' lies will be like stuff like this. [00:39:52] And like you can, this is so crazy to say and like so obvious is like, unless that you're like on some fucking like Brazil style WhatsApp chat. [00:40:02] That's what I'm saying, man. [00:40:03] This shit is crazy. [00:40:05] And it's, and it's, and it's, you know what? [00:40:06] Maya Copa, I got a wet mouth right now talking about this. [00:40:10] It's crazy. [00:40:12] It's crazy that they're saying this shit. [00:40:14] And she's not just like, what the fuck are you talking about? [00:40:17] Because she's talking about Ralph Northam saying that they should blow a baby away after they take it out of the mom. [00:40:21] It's insane. [00:40:23] No, I mean, it's just, it's so simple. [00:40:25] If there's an abortion in the third trimester, it's because there's a medical crisis. [00:40:28] Like bottom line, anyone who knows anyone with a brain knows that you cannot ban abortion for that reason unless you're willing to kill women. [00:40:36] It's just that simple. [00:40:37] It's just that simple. [00:40:38] Yeah. [00:40:39] I mean, I think, I think we'd both probably be not too happy with the percent of people who would be okay with that. [00:40:47] But yeah, it's, it's, it's, I, I think that I think she was strong, but could have been much stronger on that. [00:40:53] And I think he just comes off totally weak. [00:40:55] And I, and I, I kind of feel a bit delighted by it because that was like one of his big victories of like overturning Roe v. Wade. [00:41:03] And the fact that it might come and completely bite him in the ass is, is there is some mirth. [00:41:11] Not mirth isn't the right word. [00:41:13] Shaded. [00:41:14] I don't like to use words that come from an ideology that you subscribe to, which is just old school German conservatism. [00:41:22] Not I think too, to be honest, like the most clarifying and interesting parts of the debate, honestly, were when the two of them were trying to figure out how to distinguish themselves from each other because they agreed on the issues. [00:41:34] And like, you saw this when they were talking about China and when they were talking about Israel, which was so fucking funny watching Kamala like come out and she was like, you know, I'm going to be strong because America needs to like lead and we need to beat China on AI and we need to, and she said quantum computing. [00:41:52] And I was like, you know, she fucking rehearsed how to say to remember it's quantum computing in the fucking mirror. [00:41:57] I know you all. [00:41:59] And she was like saying all this shit, like America first, America, you know, like basically being like, we will make America great again, but she didn't want to fucking say that. [00:42:08] And then Trump being like, no, it's they're they're making the chip, they're making the chips in Taiwan. [00:42:14] We got to make the chips, like trying to both like say different things that are like, no, but I'm more America than you. [00:42:20] No, I'm more American. [00:42:22] Yeah, yeah. [00:42:22] And then it comes to Israel. [00:42:24] And she's like, I love Israel. [00:42:27] It's horrible how Hamas is raping all of these Israeli women or whatever the fuck she's saying. [00:42:32] There's so many exactly that. [00:42:34] There's so many screams and none of them have words. [00:42:36] So few words. [00:42:38] And I, you will never, you will not find a woman who loves Israel more than me. [00:42:44] And Trump is like, she hates Israel. [00:42:46] She's a Marxist. [00:42:48] Israel won't exist if you elect her. [00:42:51] I love Israel. [00:42:52] And it's like, babes, you're both saying the same thing. [00:42:54] Like, it's so clarifying. [00:42:56] None of this fucking matters. [00:42:57] You know what I mean? [00:42:58] Well, Trump's, Trump has a really funny approach to all of the things that are going on right now. [00:43:03] It's like, whenever they ask him about Ukraine or they ask him about like the Gaza stuff, Trump's response isn't like, whenever they're like, how would you deal with this or how are you going to deal with this? [00:43:13] He never responds to actually answers those questions. [00:43:17] He just says, if I was in charge, this wouldn't have happened, which is nonsense. [00:43:22] But like, it's, and especially with Gaza. [00:43:25] I mean, I'm like, okay, I don't know, maybe with Ukraine, but I don't think so. [00:43:31] But I mean, I think the situation would be very different in you. [00:43:36] Well, not very. [00:43:36] I think the situation would be different in Ukraine in a way that I have no idea what it would be. [00:43:40] I just think it would. [00:43:41] But with Gaza, I'm like, I don't think Hamas is like, boo, Trump is scary. [00:43:45] I don't know why I'm doing an accent there. [00:43:48] But they both love Israel. [00:43:50] They love Israel. [00:43:51] And it's like, I was, I thought Kamala did a okay-ish job because I knew this was going to come up. [00:43:59] Obviously, it was going to come up. [00:44:01] And I was like, I know that she's going to try to do like the perfect non-answer, but you have to be like a little more like, like she wants, she has to sort of square the circle by like talking about both. [00:44:11] Trump doesn't have to, Trump just has to say Israel rocks, but she has to like talk about like the casualties in Gaza. [00:44:16] And she used like such focus group language. [00:44:19] You know, they ran this by an APAC motherfucker, too. [00:44:21] Like, like such language of like, like, I can't remember the exact word she used. [00:44:27] And I, I, at that point, I had stopped taking notes because I was using both hands. [00:44:31] And I was just like, no, I was to, to, to, okay. [00:44:37] But uh, she, she, like, she used like this like complete non-language to talk about like the casualties in Gaza. [00:44:45] Um, it basically just like it's just been too much rather than like actually talking about what's happening there. === Joe Biden's Political Missteps (15:27) === [00:44:51] Um, and she certainly didn't get into the granular details like the mass rapes or anything like that. [00:44:57] No, it's just it's it's and which is a stun, you know what? [00:45:01] Yeah, that's I mean, it's just you know, the you know, yeah, fact-checking, but not gonna fact-check that. [00:45:08] I mean, obviously, no ABC, that would be the craziest thing if they were like, I'm sorry, could you actually explain that? [00:45:14] Yeah, exactly. [00:45:14] Yeah, could you, could you explain what mass rapes you're talking about? [00:45:17] Because it's been uh a year and a month, and the only rape video I have seen is Israeli prison guards uh raping a Palestinian. [00:45:24] Now, finally, I do want to say my the saddest moment came towards the end for me, the saddest moment, which is when Trump finally remembered to bring up Joe Biden, R.I.P. When he basically was like, Where is our president? [00:45:44] And I was like, You know, well, he's doing 9-11, which as which is shout out to him for doing that. [00:45:50] Oh, seriously, today I know I like that every year. [00:45:53] Someone new does 9-11. [00:45:54] I think that's nice. [00:45:55] That's like my also my plan for January 6th, which is that I think every January 6th, like whoever loses the election gets to do January 6th that year. [00:46:05] Yeah, that's they get to, it's like sort of like, oh, now we rally, you do a little reenactment, but you get to do it from your side this time. [00:46:12] And like, see, see who's got like the really the most dedicated supporters, yeah. [00:46:16] And you can kind of give it, put your own spin on it, you know. [00:46:18] Oh, there was a Trump got animated, not to derail, but Trump did get animated talking about Ashley Babbitt last night. [00:46:24] Man, that was when I did the like actual like Twin Peaks. [00:46:28] What year is this? [00:46:30] Like scream when I was just like, How are we fucking talking about Ashley Babbitt and Lav Leak? [00:46:36] Like, we are never leaving. [00:46:37] Long 2020, we are never leaving. [00:46:38] We are never leaving. [00:46:39] And by the way, by the way, fuck you for denying us press passes for the fucking January 6th gala at that fucking golf course in New Jersey. [00:46:48] Fuck you for that. [00:46:49] But now they, you know, listen to it. [00:46:50] Any Republican operatives out there listening? [00:46:53] Please get us passes. [00:46:55] We're gettable votes. [00:46:56] We're gettable votes. [00:46:58] But also, they canceled, they canceled it. [00:46:59] I don't know if you saw it. [00:47:00] Oh, they did? [00:47:01] Yeah, it was indefinitely postponed. [00:47:03] Oh, shit. [00:47:04] Why? [00:47:05] I don't know. [00:47:06] Jacob sent me because he was trying to go too. [00:47:10] Shit. [00:47:11] That's too bad. [00:47:13] No, it's fine because we weren't going. [00:47:15] Well, that just, because, you know, for the people who were getting their awards, now they don't get them. [00:47:19] So that's sad. [00:47:21] No, but he's so he talks about Joe and he's like, where's our president? [00:47:24] Where is he? [00:47:25] And I'm like, damn, that's a good question. [00:47:27] And they were like, look at what they did to him. [00:47:29] Look at how they disrespected Joe. [00:47:31] They threw him out like the dog, like a dog. [00:47:34] And I was like, they had votations near him. [00:47:38] And then he says, and this is the best. [00:47:39] He's like, we have a president who doesn't know he's alive. [00:47:43] I love that. [00:47:44] Cause you know what? [00:47:45] That's an actual Biden might not know he's alive. [00:47:49] Like Biden could think he's dead right now and being president is heaven. [00:47:53] But also that is like, maybe that's the zenest you can get. [00:47:57] The most zen level you hit is when you don't know you're alive and you're just under loose control. [00:48:03] I saw, you know, it's, I saw something. [00:48:05] I hate political humor. [00:48:08] I saw some bullshit on Instagram this morning that was like daily show fact check. [00:48:14] Joe Biden says Kamala is, or no, excuse me, Donald Trump says Kamala is Joe Biden. [00:48:21] And then it was like, fact check. [00:48:23] We haven't seen her birth certificate. [00:48:25] Like, we don't know if she is Joe Biden. [00:48:26] It's like, come on. [00:48:29] But she is Joe. [00:48:30] Like, the thing is, she's Joe Biden, but less. [00:48:32] Like, she's basically been like doing a fake job for the past three and a half years. [00:48:38] And so like, like, I, it's, it's, I, I'm like, she should wish she's Joe Biden. [00:48:45] I will say that did make me realize that, like, the first debate was fun to watch. [00:48:49] Well, not fun to watch. [00:48:50] I don't think anyone could say that, but it was entertaining to watch because it was such a disaster. [00:48:55] But this debate, I will say, was just so fucking boring. [00:48:59] Like, except for like the racial demagoguery about the fucking Haitians eating fucking dogs and shit, like, or the insane stuff about the, the, the afterbirth abortions. [00:49:09] The little, the little tip about him talking to Abdul. [00:49:12] That was nice. [00:49:13] Yes. [00:49:13] But, like, Kamala's stuff was either stump speech or baiting. [00:49:17] That was her only things that she was like competent at. [00:49:20] And people try to say she had a really good performance. [00:49:23] The fact is, like, her, the only, I would say she won the debate in a sense, like by maybe 1%, only because her strategy of baiting Trump was, there became a certain, I took a certain comfort in the predictability of it, but there wasn't like no one really won. [00:49:40] They both seem like exactly, I cannot imagine changing your view on either candidate by even an iota after watching. [00:49:48] None of this fucking matters. [00:49:49] None of this even, none of this matters. [00:49:51] I have literally, all of my notes are just like variations of me going, I literally have no idea what either of these people are talking about. [00:49:58] None of this fucking matters. [00:50:00] No one gives a shit. [00:50:01] Like, and it just is like, you watch the kind of pundit responses in like crystallize in real time and then kind of gain their own momentum to give like a feedback loop for their own kind of like use for this, like, [00:50:17] you know, the, the, as we are kind of gearing up into the last leg of this thing leading into hopefully what should be, I fucking hope, a surprising October and then finally a denouement in November. [00:50:32] But like there isn't, there was like nothing really to talk about. [00:50:36] These two people are fucking losers. [00:50:38] I'm sorry. [00:50:39] They're losers. [00:50:40] I fucking hate them. [00:50:41] There's no juice. [00:50:42] She's got no juice. [00:50:45] And I mean, there wasn't, there's like no real takeaway from me other than I think that Trump's biggest fucking mistake that he will regret for his entire fucking life if he loses, but even if he wins, but especially if he loses, is that he should never have agreed to do a debate with Joe Biden before the convention. [00:51:06] Yes. [00:51:07] Yes. [00:51:07] Like you. [00:51:09] I fully agree with that. [00:51:10] Because you could tell, like, he, the delight that he had in his face when Joe was talking about beating Medicare, when he was like doing his weird pause, when he was going stiff mode, when he was fucking rambling, rambling Bramblin Joe, like he, it was a different man. [00:51:30] It was like he suddenly, there was, you know, a new night, a bright light in his eyes as the light was leaving Joe's. [00:51:38] And this time around, it was like you said at the beginning of this, like Trump looked fucking old. [00:51:46] She looked, you know, she looked radiant, Liz. [00:51:52] She looked good. [00:51:53] She had a great blowout. [00:51:54] Her makeup was on point. [00:51:56] The lighting was nice. [00:51:57] She looked warm, even though I don't find her to be like a warm person. [00:52:01] Agreed. [00:52:03] And she did, she had some good reaction faces for the meme, the, you know, the meme crew on the internet of the like, she had the kind of like sad, pitiful, like, I'm pitying you kind of look that I think played well. [00:52:18] So if Trump has, you know, of all the mistakes he's made on this campaign, of which I think there are a lot, that might be the biggest one that he let the Democrats have a window to swap out old Joe and to quote Donnie, feed him to the dogs. [00:52:40] One, one, one, one philosopher I read a lot of and really respect is Sun Tzu. [00:52:47] And he talks about this. [00:52:49] Whereas if your enemy is making a mistake, don't correct him. [00:52:53] You know what I mean? [00:52:54] Let him make the mistake. [00:52:55] Let him play it out. [00:52:57] Let him fuck it up. [00:52:58] And Don Jr. just has to go in there and big dick all over fucking Joe Biden. [00:53:02] Look what happens. [00:53:03] Now they've got this relative to Joe Biden young lady up there who can kind of hold her own in a way that Joe Biden definitely could not against Trump. [00:53:15] And I think we saw some of Trump's old habits that he didn't really do in the debate with Joe Biden appear in this one, which is like the baiting and like the snapping and the craziness and like the ton of demagoguery shit that he that was largely absent from the first debate. [00:53:31] I will say it was very funny to give Victor Orban a shout out. [00:53:37] Why are we even talking about, there's so much shit they talked about. [00:53:39] It's like, what are you talking about? [00:53:41] He brought up Laura Ingraham. [00:53:42] None of this has anything to do with anything. [00:53:45] Like no one, okay. [00:53:46] Imagine you actually are undecided Kenbone interested voter citizen person. [00:53:54] You are watching this and you're like, I have absolutely no idea what either of these people would do as president. [00:53:59] And they don't care and it doesn't fucking matter. [00:54:02] It doesn't matter. [00:54:03] None of this fucking matters, which is why we need to get all the homies back for the next one. [00:54:09] And so we could see all our old friends that time is lost. [00:54:12] Are they going to do another debate? [00:54:14] They haven't agreed to it yet, but I would not be surprised because I just feel like they might want to get another one. [00:54:24] I think Trump came out. [00:54:25] He's like, I don't think I need to do another one. [00:54:26] I won that one. [00:54:27] But I'm like, buddy, you just say that. [00:54:29] Like, I think if they could get it on Fox and Kamala would agree to it, I could see them doing it. [00:54:35] But I don't know. [00:54:37] They should. [00:54:38] We got to keep the show going. [00:54:40] I think that they should have like a, I think at the very least, you know how they did the governor's debate with Ron Dion and fucking Newsome? [00:54:48] Oh, yeah. [00:54:49] I think that they should have like a proxy debate with like, let's do fucking RFK Jr. versus who is Kambala's proxy? [00:54:57] Taylor Swift. [00:54:58] Oh, she endorsed last night. [00:55:00] And I got it. [00:55:01] And she signed it, childless cat lady. [00:55:04] I got to tell you, I was. [00:55:06] Snap, snap. [00:55:07] Oh, God. [00:55:07] And all, have you seen Elon Musk is posting all this fucking AI art about like cats and shit? [00:55:14] Did you see how he fucking responded to it and was like, oh, I'll get you pregnant, Taylor? [00:55:22] In a way that makes me feel like Aaron fucking Rupar. [00:55:25] Like, I'm sorry. [00:55:26] It's gauche to hate somebody. [00:55:28] Aaron Rupar. [00:55:29] Who is that? [00:55:31] Which one is that? [00:55:32] Difficult to say who he is, but what he is is a guy who I believe I used to work for Vox or one of those other dime a dozen fucking outlets that his job was, and now he does it independently, is he just watches every Trump thing and clips it. [00:55:49] So he's sort of that guy. [00:55:50] He's a one-man media matters. [00:55:53] And media does matter. [00:55:57] He's millennial David Brock, but he, I, I, I feel like Aaron Rupar whenever I think about Elon Musk. [00:56:04] I'm sorry. [00:56:05] I'm sorry. [00:56:05] It's corny to have that much hate in my heart. [00:56:08] I'm a love guy. [00:56:09] I'm all about love. [00:56:10] People say, oh, Brace, you have these politics. [00:56:13] Whatever. [00:56:14] I don't. [00:56:14] My politics are just, it's all fucking love. [00:56:17] It's all love, top, bottom, middle, but especially middle. [00:56:21] It's all love. [00:56:22] And I hate him. [00:56:23] I hope he fucking dies. [00:56:25] I hate Elon Musk. [00:56:28] But it's, I literally, like, I would, I would, I, I, I hope he's, yeah, I just, it's, and leave the fucking Haitians alone. [00:56:37] Like, it's like, they have not had a good, like, 400 years. [00:56:42] It leave them the fuck alone. [00:56:43] Because you didn't leave him alone for a long time. [00:56:46] It's, I hope, I hope he gets strung up by the fucking tootmakuts. [00:56:50] But it's, it's, yeah. [00:56:52] Anyways, anyways, anyways. [00:56:53] I, there's going to be, I think there's going to be another debate. [00:56:56] I feel it in my bones because I think that that seems like there should be. [00:57:01] Because then we could do this again. [00:57:03] I know. [00:57:05] But this was fun. [00:57:06] It was fun. [00:57:06] It's always nice to see you. [00:57:09] And You and you and you and you. [00:57:14] Liz, who are you leaning right now to vote for? [00:57:20] Is anyone else running? [00:57:23] They got two. [00:57:27] They got two chicks from PSL. [00:57:30] Okay. [00:57:30] They got on a double ticket. [00:57:32] Could you have a duo run? [00:57:34] I think it's got to be the vice president, right? [00:57:37] Let me Google this. [00:57:38] Can you do a co-president ticket? [00:57:40] Because I think we should run on that. [00:57:41] Who all is running for president? [00:57:45] All right. [00:57:45] This is just going to be present. [00:57:48] Okay, here's the Wikipedia because this will have the – oh, no, this is Balladopedia. [00:57:52] Oh, shit. [00:57:52] There's hell of people. [00:57:53] Oh, no, no, no. [00:57:55] But on the national. [00:57:56] Wait. [00:57:57] Jill Stein. [00:57:58] Oh, there's Jill Stein. [00:58:02] It was funny. [00:58:02] There was a bunch of, and I'm not to talk about Twitter on the show or anything, but there was a bunch of, I saw like a bunch of people being mean about Jill Stein on Twitter, like Democrats or whatever. [00:58:12] I'm like, they're fucking right. [00:58:13] Like Jill, Jill Stein's a loser. [00:58:15] Like, what is she doing? [00:58:17] It's the Green Party. [00:58:18] They're all losers. [00:58:19] It's a waste of fucking money, is what it is. [00:58:22] It's on there. [00:58:24] We don't rock with the Greens of any country, of any nation. [00:58:28] We don't rock with them at all. [00:58:29] Speaking of the Greens, wow, how far we have come from 2020? [00:58:34] When Kamala was like, I love fracking. [00:58:36] I love fracking. [00:58:37] I love bombing Palestinians. [00:58:39] And I fucking love the idea of going to war with China. [00:58:42] And it's like, okay, here we go. [00:58:45] The other thing that's dodged on healthcare, I think, too. [00:58:48] They just talk about Obamacare, whatever they fucking want to talk about. [00:58:51] It's like, there was also this moment where I think they were talking about tariffs. [00:58:56] And they're just, I think they literally are just banking on the fact, like, not the two candidates, but like the people behind the candidates are just banking on the fact that nobody understands how trade works, international trade works, or like what tariffs are or what this means, which fair enough. [00:59:10] But like the fact that like Trump passes these tariffs, Joe Biden doesn't repeal them and probably and like passes more tariffs. [00:59:21] Kamala will probably pass more tariffs. [00:59:23] Trump would pass more tariffs. [00:59:25] Like it's already all happening. [00:59:26] All of this stuff is happening regardless of these two people. [00:59:31] And they're trying to like make these distinctions about themselves as if there's this like big grand choice or whatever. [00:59:37] Anyway, it was just a very funny moment. [00:59:39] Yes. [00:59:39] Yeah. [00:59:39] No, I agree with that. [00:59:41] I'm also, I'm looking at now there's a there's a Libertarian Party ticket is Chase Oliver. [00:59:48] Get alone of this guy. [00:59:49] Chase crazy looker, a sales account executive from Georgia. [00:59:54] And then I can't even believe his vice president's name. [00:59:58] It's Mike, normal. [01:00:01] Check this one out. [01:00:02] Lowercase T-E-R, ter, and then a whole other word, Mott, M-A-A-T, Mike Termott. [01:00:11] But two words? [01:00:13] Yeah, three words total. [01:00:15] Mike Termat for it's like a Dutch sounding thing. === Mike Termatt (09:28) === [01:00:19] We got Green Party, we got Jill Stein, and then vice president is a Butchware. [01:00:24] No picture, Butchware. [01:00:27] And then we got American Solidarity Party is Peter Sonski. [01:00:32] That's from a Connecticut school board member. [01:00:35] Approval voting party is Blake Huber. [01:00:40] Constitution Party is Randall Terry. [01:00:42] Independent American Party in Constitution Party offshoots is Joel Skusen, a survivalist and consultant. [01:00:49] Prohibition Party is Michael Wood, businessman. [01:00:53] And PSL is Claudia De La Cruz, a political activist. [01:00:58] Socialist Equality Party, Trotskyist, is Joseph Kishore, who in his picture is. [01:01:05] Wait, are all these people on the ballot in every state? [01:01:09] No, it's partial ballot access. [01:01:11] And then we got Socialist Workers Party, I believe also Trotskyist. [01:01:16] Yeah, no, it's the old SWP is Rochelle Fruit, who is a hotel worker. [01:01:23] I think maybe she should be a, she should work at a farmer's market with a name like that. [01:01:28] And then Cornell West and unfortunately Harvard Jr., who is still you can still write someone in, right? [01:01:35] Yeah, okay, I'm gonna do that. [01:01:37] I'm gonna write something. [01:01:38] I'm gonna write Donald Trump in. [01:01:40] I'm 50-50 right now. [01:01:42] I could go any direction. [01:01:44] You can go Jill Stein or Dayla Cruz, but you're not sure. [01:01:47] I could. [01:01:47] No, no, no, no. [01:01:48] Jill Stein or Butch Ware. [01:01:49] I could do it. [01:01:50] I wanted to do a switch there. [01:01:51] I think she's too old. [01:01:52] She's looked old forever, but maybe. [01:01:55] Who? [01:01:56] Jill Stein. [01:01:56] I feel like she looked ancient the first time I saw a picture of her. [01:01:59] She doesn't look ancient. [01:02:00] She just looked like woo-woo lady. [01:02:02] I guess that's true. [01:02:03] She exists outside of time, perhaps. [01:02:06] Like a dimension? [01:02:07] Much like all of our content friends we need to bring back for the next debate. [01:02:11] Yeah, yeah. [01:02:12] We should we bring oh, obviously Dole is all. [01:02:17] Oh, fuck, Dolezo. [01:02:18] We should go. [01:02:19] Baked Alaska. [01:02:21] Yeah. [01:02:21] Liz Warren. [01:02:23] I think she would be good up there. [01:02:24] Liz Warren? [01:02:25] Yeah. [01:02:26] But like, if we could get her, like, like, or no, her dog, big structural Bailey. [01:02:32] Let's get the dog in there. [01:02:34] Fuck, dude. [01:02:35] We should get all those people who got the Elizabeth Warren Holocaust tattoos. [01:02:37] We should get them. [01:02:38] Yeah, absolutely. [01:02:39] Just to see what's up with those. [01:02:40] Who's the guy from the New England Patriots? [01:02:42] Tom Brady. [01:02:43] I think we should get Tom Brady in there. [01:02:47] I'm thinking who else is like a good, who's good in politics? [01:02:52] I feel like, didn't someone crazy run for office? [01:02:54] What about, what's the guy's name? [01:02:55] What's the Peter Dow? [01:03:00] Do you remember? [01:03:01] I think he might be like, because he was the Clinton guy. [01:03:04] He did Verit. [01:03:05] Yeah. [01:03:06] See, we got to bring all our friends back and we put them in the audience. [01:03:09] I think he's like a left-wing progressive guy now. [01:03:14] What question would you have asked? [01:03:15] So this is for like the debate that we would host, which we are officially inviting Trump and Kamala to. [01:03:22] I just want to put this out there. [01:03:23] Yeah. [01:03:23] This is the true and non-vote true no matter who debate for Undecideds 2024. [01:03:30] Trump officially, we are extending an invite. [01:03:33] Kamala, we are officially extending an invite. [01:03:35] No other candidates will be invited. [01:03:37] No other. [01:03:37] That is our promise. [01:03:38] We will host the debate. [01:03:41] We will invite to have a, we will have a live studio audience of famous and infamous and some not as famous as maybe they should have been content celebrities who have made an impact in the years that we've had this podcast going. [01:03:58] Yeah. [01:03:59] Up to our discretion. [01:04:00] However, all viewpoints will be represented. [01:04:04] Yeah. [01:04:04] And to give a taste of what we might have on offer, I would say I'll go first, but like what one of my questions would be. [01:04:15] And then you can go so that we can give the candidates, you know, I really want them to know this is in good faith. [01:04:22] We come in peace or whatever. [01:04:26] And we want to have them at our house. [01:04:29] Not literally. [01:04:30] But so I would say, I want to hear what you guys have to say about Bitcoin. [01:04:38] Crazy they didn't mention that last night. [01:04:40] I want to hear, I want Trump and Kamala. [01:04:43] I want a 10-minute response about what you think about Bitcoin. [01:04:47] And then I might ask you a follow-up. [01:04:49] How does it work? [01:04:53] My question is either has science gone too far? [01:04:57] I think that's a really good crop for anybody. [01:05:01] And then the next one is, what's the biggest bird you've ever seen? [01:05:05] I knew you were going to say the bird question. [01:05:07] That's my number one question. [01:05:08] I can't think of something to ask him. [01:05:09] I bet Trump has a really good answer. [01:05:11] I guarantee Trump has seen an unusual fucking avian. [01:05:15] A huge, he's seen some bird that it's like, you know, when there's like a new viral story where they're like, wow, we found this weird flounder that we never knew existed and it lives, you know, whatever. [01:05:25] He would be like, oh, you know, I saw this one bird. [01:05:28] It would be like him discovering a new species that no one even knew existed. [01:05:32] And he would say it. [01:05:33] And the thing that would be even better is I think he would like pause and actually take the question seriously. [01:05:41] I think he would. [01:05:41] Try to come and like be like, huh, what is the biggest bird I've ever seen? [01:05:46] But the problem is, I feel like Trump has like difficulty. [01:05:50] Like, I don't know if Trump understands the concept of fiction. [01:05:52] Like, I genuinely don't know if he knows that. [01:05:54] So, like, for instance, if he'd seen like the hobbit, the desolation of smog, and he might think, like, the dragon from the hobbit is a bird. [01:06:03] And, like, he could name Smog as that. [01:06:05] And that would be. [01:06:06] I wonder if he would think that dragons are birds. [01:06:08] Yeah. [01:06:09] Dragons are birds. [01:06:10] Well. [01:06:11] Are pterodactyls birds? [01:06:12] Yeah. [01:06:12] I would say so. [01:06:13] Yeah. [01:06:14] I mean, pretty much anything. [01:06:15] My whole thing with the bird is if it doesn't fly, it's a bird. [01:06:18] There's different kinds of birds underneath that, but if it can fly, it's a bird. [01:06:21] So some fish are even birds. [01:06:23] What about birds that can't fly? [01:06:24] A penguin? [01:06:27] And he's been drinking. [01:06:29] Wait a minute. [01:06:30] Penguins can't fly. [01:06:32] Penguins can't fly. [01:06:34] Those are birds. [01:06:37] But God wants them to. [01:06:38] They just refuse, I think. [01:06:41] Little Barbies. [01:06:43] Yeah. [01:06:43] Liz, are there any animals that you're really scared of? [01:06:49] I really don't like snakes. [01:06:52] Any kind of snake? [01:06:54] Yeah, I don't like them. [01:06:55] They scare me. [01:06:56] Snakes. [01:06:58] Why did it have to be snakes? [01:07:01] We should have you be Eve. [01:07:02] I'm a little, I got my the little Indiana Jones and me on that one. [01:07:06] I don't like snakes. [01:07:08] I don't like it's tough because I do really love all animals. [01:07:14] So it's hard for me. [01:07:15] Yeah, it's the space. [01:07:16] It's not snakes. [01:07:17] Yeah, I don't like bugs. [01:07:18] I have a hard time with bugs. [01:07:20] We don't know if those are animals. [01:07:21] Like, scientists don't know yet. [01:07:23] We should. [01:07:25] Are you afraid of any animals in a real way? [01:07:27] I guess I don't like a roach. [01:07:31] Well, yeah. [01:07:33] I don't like a roach either. [01:07:34] I don't like them in my space. [01:07:36] Yeah. [01:07:37] Okay, Hitler. [01:07:40] For me, I guess I would say, you guys remember when that footage came out of that like weird sea creature with the crazy like legs with hinges on it down at the bottom of the sea? [01:07:52] And they took a video of it. [01:07:54] But it's that one was that. [01:07:56] But I guess if I was in that fucking sub, I'd be like, I'm chilling with this thing. [01:08:00] Like he probably doesn't even, if he saw me, he wouldn't even know what the fuck to do with me. [01:08:03] Just like, I don't know what to do. [01:08:05] He's probably more scared of me. [01:08:06] But in all honesty, pit bulls. [01:08:09] Yeah. [01:08:10] That's basically for me. [01:08:12] It's, it's got to be pit bulls. [01:08:13] That's the number one scariest animal. [01:08:16] Oh, no, but mine's good. [01:08:17] But mine's good. [01:08:18] Politically divisive, not some politically divisive on the debate stage. [01:08:24] That's the thing is they should on the debate stage, they should just ask him questions like that. [01:08:27] Like, what? [01:08:28] Do you think pit bulls are monsters? [01:08:31] Because that's that's an actual hard question for a politician to answer. [01:08:35] Do you think pit bulls are monsters? [01:08:37] Very difficult. [01:08:38] Do you think sports betting should be legal? [01:08:40] Or is it the owners? [01:08:42] Or is it the owners? [01:08:43] Is it nature or nurture? [01:08:45] Fuck. [01:08:47] See, this is what everyone could expect and more from the True Anon hosted debate, which just got to say, we're putting it out there. [01:08:54] Will you? [01:08:56] We know you're listening. [01:08:58] Pass the message on. [01:09:00] It would be highly attended by Gen Z and Alpha and Zelennial of all types. [01:09:08] Oh, we talked to so many Gen Z people on Discord. [01:09:13] Sorry, I got it. [01:09:14] We're going to retire that one. [01:09:16] It doesn't even work. [01:09:17] I only bring it up intermittently. [01:09:19] I don't talk to Gen Z people on Discord. [01:09:21] I don't talk to anybody on Discord. [01:09:22] Sometimes I go in the True Anon Discord whenever we have one and say, oh, but I'm like, I can't be in there. [01:09:28] You know, it would be weird. [01:09:30] All right, everyone. [01:09:32] I'm Liz. [01:09:33] My name is motherfucking Brace Double Bees. [01:09:40] And we are joined by producer Joan Chopsky. [01:09:42] And what's the podcast called? [01:09:43] I forgot. [01:09:45] It's called Truanon. [01:09:46] And we'll see you next time.