True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 395: House of Tards
Aired: 2024-07-26
Duration: 01:42:55


=== Why The Nasty Woman Can Rhyme (03:31) ===

[00:00:00]  Liz, I wrote a poem for you to read.
[00:00:03]  Wait.
[00:00:04]  Where is it?
[00:00:05]  It's at the very top of this document.
[00:00:08]  Oh, no.
[00:00:09]  Yes.
[00:00:10]  And just, can you read it in your most...
[00:00:11]  This is one of your...
[00:00:12]  Listen, I have just been, in lieu of election coverage, I've been doing a little political poetry, which is one of the oldest forms of imagining music.
[00:00:23]  What's the guy's name?
[00:00:24]  The graffiti artist that we love?
[00:00:26]  Kilroy?
[00:00:27]  No.
[00:00:28]  Seven Souls Deep?
[00:00:29]  Seven Souls Deep.
[00:00:30]  Yeah.
[00:00:30]  Or the, no, the Persian poet.
[00:00:32]  Thank you.
[00:00:32]  The Persian poet.
[00:00:33]  That's you.
[00:00:33]  San Francisco.
[00:00:34]  Or excuse me, New York City's greatest street poet.
[00:00:37]  I am kind of like the Persian poet, but I also think of myself as like that one lady who did that, I'm a nasty woman poem.
[00:00:43]  Oh my God.
[00:00:44]  That's kind of more myself.
[00:00:45]  So great.
[00:00:46]  Yeah.
[00:00:47]  We're going to get to your poem in a second.
[00:00:49]  I'm very excited about it.
[00:00:50]  I love when you get creative.
[00:00:52]  But can we just pause for a second and just remember that moment?
[00:00:56]  I'm a nasty woman.
[00:00:58]  It's so funny that like, remember when like every middle-class woman was like, that's right.
[00:01:03]  I'm a fucking bitch.
[00:01:05]  I'm a nasty woman.
[00:01:06]  I'm disgusting.
[00:01:07]  I'm nasty.
[00:01:08]  I'm stinky.
[00:01:09]  I'm smelly.
[00:01:10]  I'm a fucking hate me.
[00:01:11]  I'm a bitch.
[00:01:12]  And that's who I am.
[00:01:13]  I'm nasty.
[00:01:16]  It's like, are you okay?
[00:01:17]  I'm a nasty woman.
[00:01:20]  I think that we should do a poetry reading of that shit now.
[00:01:24]  That was actually my first plan for us going into this.
[00:01:27]  And then this morning, I did this before I had coffee right when I woke up this morning.
[00:01:31]  Juice is flowing.
[00:01:32]  About half an hour ago.
[00:01:34]  And I was like, Liz needs to read this because this is, because I know that you and I, you sent me over and over and over and over that clip of JD Vance talking about a cat lady nasty woman on Fox News's Tucker Carlson.
[00:01:46]  First of all, I sent it to you once.
[00:01:48]  You sent it to me like seven.
[00:01:49]  You've been sending me a second.
[00:01:49]  No, no, no, I don't even sent you the clip.
[00:01:51]  I just said, huh, that's crazy you said that.
[00:01:53]  Yeah, and with all these crazy mean emojis next to it.
[00:01:57]  Here we go.
[00:01:58]  And threats that I won't repeat here because FBI, I'm not involved in her activities, but.
[00:02:02]  I'm a nasty woman.
[00:02:04]  I'm a nasty woman.
[00:02:06]  Okay.
[00:02:08]  So please, can you read it in that?
[00:02:10]  Yeah, I think I might.
[00:02:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:13]  I'm going to channel.
[00:02:14]  What's her fucking face?
[00:02:15]  Rupy Carr.
[00:02:17]  No, I like that.
[00:02:19]  It's going to be a little bit of car with a rising Gatsby.
[00:02:25]  Oh, Hannah Gatsby.
[00:02:28]  You think she's someone you can step on?
[00:02:32]  Just because she's just a stepmom?
[00:02:35]  She's the kind of stepmom who steps up, not the kind of stepmom who gets stuck.
[00:02:40]  JD Vance, you're not the first clown in this circus.
[00:02:43]  I prosecuted Brace's friend Max with full charges.
[00:02:47]  Donald Trump, 32 felonies, sexual proclivities, Russian spy activities.
[00:02:55]  Forget Mar-a-Lago.
[00:02:57]  Forget the females in Cabo.
[00:02:59]  Forget the deadpens with Quavo.
[00:03:02]  With Kamala in charge, it'll be lights out like Shivo.
[00:03:06]  And take off that eyeliner.
[00:03:07]  look like a homo.

=== Last Line Written (02:09) ===

[00:03:32]  Liz wrote that last line for me to read.
[00:03:35]  You're so good at rhymes, Brace.
[00:03:36]  You know, it's crazy that you say that, Liz, because I've always thought that I could have made it in like hip-hop.
[00:03:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:03:45]  You're sort of a like sensitive, sensitive bro type.
[00:03:48]  Absolutely.
[00:03:49]  Atmosphere?
[00:03:50]  I see you more like Mac Miller.
[00:03:52]  Not super familiar.
[00:03:54]  I know he died, but I'm not.
[00:03:57]  And you lived.
[00:03:58]  That is true.
[00:03:59]  That is true.
[00:04:00]  So Mac Miller Zero, Brace One, no disrespect meant.
[00:04:03]  But speaking of Brace One, my name is Brace.
[00:04:07]  I'm Liz.
[00:04:07]  We, of course, joined by producer Young Chomsky.
[00:04:09]  And Liz, what is the name of this podcast?
[00:04:11]  It's called Truanon.
[00:04:12]  Excuse me, I'm just looking at my watch.
[00:04:14]  And I didn't mean it in a rude way.
[00:04:15]  I was just fixing it.
[00:04:16]  This is like the millionth time in my life a woman has said those some kind of combination.
[00:04:21]  No, because I was just adjusting it on my wrist.
[00:04:24]  And then I realized it looks like I'm looking at the time as if I'm trying to get through.
[00:04:28]  And I'm not.
[00:04:28]  I'm here.
[00:04:29]  I'm present.
[00:04:30]  Let's do this.
[00:04:31]  What we need on this wall is like a big ticking clock, like in school that goes like, like, remember the, what's the terrible clock that's like, we're two seconds from annihilation.
[00:04:41]  No, their death is around the corner.
[00:04:43]  The one that those guys, they stand in front of like all the time.
[00:04:46]  How do they calculate that?
[00:04:47]  I feel like it's just like a feeling.
[00:04:50]  Yeah.
[00:04:50]  You know?
[00:04:51]  It's like, I think you're wrong.
[00:04:52]  How about this?
[00:04:53]  How long have you been saying it's that close?
[00:04:55]  We're two minutes to midnight or whatever.
[00:04:57]  We're however many minutes are left in the day or started in the day to paradise.
[00:05:02]  Why don't they frame it like that?
[00:05:03]  Midnight, you go to sleep and then you wake up again.
[00:05:07]  If we're almost at midnight, dawn must be incredible.
[00:05:11]  Yeah.
[00:05:12]  You feel me?
[00:05:13]  That's right.
[00:05:14]  Brace says a dawn is coming.
[00:05:17]  A new dawn is today is around the corner.
[00:05:20]  And we're going to get rid of all those people who have been giving us so much trouble.
[00:05:26]  Welcome back to Truanon's election coverage.
[00:05:29]  Insert music now.
[00:05:35]  You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

=== New Dawn Around The Corner (06:25) ===

[00:05:41]  You know what's crazy?
[00:05:43]  NBC just announced that they are bringing back round ball rock as a theme for the NBA coverage starting in the fall.
[00:05:50]  What does that mean?
[00:05:52]  We went over this.
[00:05:53]  That was the whole thing.
[00:05:54]  My inspiration behind the election theme was like, oh, it should be like Round Ball Rock or whatever.
[00:05:58]  Now, NBC is bringing it back.
[00:06:00]  Interesting.
[00:06:01]  I'm just saying.
[00:06:02]  We had this conversation.
[00:06:03]  Literally on the podcast recorded.
[00:06:05]  And I was involved in it?
[00:06:07]  Yeah.
[00:06:08]  Was that kind of like drifting off while talking?
[00:06:10]  Because I do that sometimes.
[00:06:11]  Great.
[00:06:12]  Good to know.
[00:06:13]  Well, I mean, it's not, it's a mental illness that I have.
[00:06:17]  But I will say this.
[00:06:18]  I told you guys this last night, but last night I had like a crazy.
[00:06:22]  Like I was like, what's it called when people like depersonalization?
[00:06:26]  What's it called?
[00:06:27]  When you like go out of your body or whatever?
[00:06:28]  Dissociate.
[00:06:29]  Dissociate.
[00:06:30]  I dissociated last night during Jessica Pratt's set.
[00:06:34]  I was watching it, but I was like, all of a sudden, for like five minutes, I went into this like horrible, like, I guess it wasn't dissociated.
[00:06:40]  I had like a strange, nightmarish, waking, nightmare thing.
[00:06:44]  Out of body.
[00:06:45]  Out of body experience where I thought I was dying.
[00:06:47]  Really?
[00:06:48]  I'm dying.
[00:06:48]  That's, don't tell Jessica this.
[00:06:50]  Well, I'm not going to tell.
[00:06:50]  It wasn't her fault.
[00:06:51]  It was actually, it started between songs, but I thought I was dying.
[00:06:56]  And then, and I was like, what was the cause of death?
[00:06:59]  Cancer.
[00:06:59]  I thought I had throat cancer.
[00:07:01]  That's specific.
[00:07:02]  Yeah.
[00:07:03]  And I was like, I could feel, it was like I visualized like a black, like scarab.
[00:07:09]  On your vocal cords as she's singing.
[00:07:12]  Well, I mean, she's quite a singer.
[00:07:14]  Dr. Liz listening.
[00:07:15]  It was, it was like spreading outwards and like I could envision like all my blood turning black.
[00:07:21]  Like you were unable to sing.
[00:07:22]  I was definitely unable to sing.
[00:07:25]  And I had felt anxious all day and felt like weird and like kind of like shift, like not shifty, but you know, like when you're like moving your legs and stuff.
[00:07:34]  What's that called?
[00:07:34]  Anxious, I guess.
[00:07:37]  I felt anxious all day.
[00:07:38]  And then I was completely taken out of it.
[00:07:41]  And I sent you guys what took me out of it.
[00:07:44]  The donkey.
[00:07:45]  Yeah.
[00:07:45]  And it's Liz just got a notification from Pornhub.
[00:07:51]  And the thing that took me out of it was what if you said he, him, like a donkey says he haw?
[00:07:59]  And after that.
[00:08:00]  I was sitting with that one for a while.
[00:08:02]  I felt the most immediate LOL response from young John.
[00:08:06]  What if you did?
[00:08:07]  It was the.
[00:08:09]  Hee-ham!
[00:08:10]  Can you imagine?
[00:08:12]  You got to do the bay them too.
[00:08:13]  Bay them.
[00:08:14]  Bay them doesn't work as well.
[00:08:15]  Hey, them.
[00:08:17]  No, it sounds too much like the gender donkey.
[00:08:25]  The gender donkey.
[00:08:26]  Wow.
[00:08:27]  That's a democratic bar.
[00:08:28]  Wow.
[00:08:29]  The gender donkey.
[00:08:32]  And I was just that.
[00:08:33]  Isn't that the worst stuffed, like, woke stuffed animal for like the bed?
[00:08:37]  Leaving that to your eight-year-old daughter or whatever.
[00:08:39]  Eight-month-old.
[00:08:40]  Eight-month-old fat.
[00:08:42]  And a non-binary child.
[00:08:44]  Yeah.
[00:08:44]  Yeah, of course.
[00:08:44]  You just gave it all to your kid.
[00:08:46]  And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what Kamal Harris promises.
[00:08:50]  But it took me out of my weird mental state.
[00:08:53]  And I felt like it.
[00:08:55]  Suddenly you were embodying that donkey.
[00:08:56]  Booleance is the word?
[00:08:58]  Sure.
[00:08:59]  Booleant.
[00:08:59]  I felt a bullion, and like I felt good, and I was like, all of a sudden, I was like rocking in my, like, in my, within my flesh.
[00:09:06]  And I'm not.
[00:09:08]  It's insane that the gender donkey was like your grounding exercise.
[00:09:12]  Is that what that is?
[00:09:13]  It could be.
[00:09:13]  Maybe you felt like that.
[00:09:14]  What's that?
[00:09:15]  Crazy people do that?
[00:09:16]  Like, what's around me?
[00:09:17]  What's around me?
[00:09:17]  No, it's like you were having a version of a panic attack, and then you were able to bring yourself back into the present moment, slow yourself down by doing a fucking gender donkey impression.
[00:09:29]  When I'm feeling that like feeling I described, that's a panic attack.
[00:09:34]  It could be.
[00:09:35]  You should speak to a medical professional.
[00:09:37]  What are they going to tell me?
[00:09:38]  Well, I don't think you should speak to a medical professional, but an analyst could probably tell you.
[00:09:42]  I'd go to an analyst.
[00:09:43]  Well, you should have it.
[00:09:43]  I haven't been going for a while.
[00:09:44]  Did you bring it up?
[00:09:46]  This happened last night.
[00:09:47]  But I'm going to my analyst after this.
[00:09:49]  Great.
[00:09:50]  But we did talk about my dream joke with the analyst, which I won't repeat on the podcast.
[00:09:55]  You don't want to?
[00:09:55]  I can repeat.
[00:09:56]  Okay, I can.
[00:09:57]  Or we could just save it and not tell people.
[00:10:00]  We could save it and not tell people, maybe.
[00:10:01]  But I came up with a 90%, 95% finished joke in my sleep that I wrote in a notes app.
[00:10:08]  That you can write in a notes app.
[00:10:09]  But did you finish it?
[00:10:10]  No.
[00:10:10]  It's impossible.
[00:10:12]  I've put it to a lot of people.
[00:10:14]  Is it a joke if you can't finish the punchline?
[00:10:16]  Well, that, ladies and gentlemen, is maybe where it gets into the realm of analysis because perhaps, because it's a perfect joke.
[00:10:23]  Well, that's not.
[00:10:24]  It's not the funniest joke in the world, but as a joke, it works very well.
[00:10:28]  Not yet.
[00:10:29]  Exactly.
[00:10:30]  Except for one crucial missing piece.
[00:10:32]  So you write it on the chalkboard and then Matt Damon comes in.
[00:10:34]  Well, somebody's.
[00:10:35]  You know what I would tell you?
[00:10:36]  You're going to keep looking for that piece.
[00:10:37]  And even once you get that piece, it's not going to be enough for that joke to be funny.
[00:10:41]  That's precisely the same conclusion that I came to.
[00:10:43]  Well, the joke is funny, Liz.
[00:10:45]  Well, the joke is incomplete.
[00:10:46]  But even in its incomplete state, it's a good joke.
[00:10:51]  I don't know if you can, I don't think it reaches joke status yet.
[00:10:55]  It has the shape of a good joke.
[00:10:56]  It is already a good joke.
[00:10:58]  It's just not joke.
[00:10:59]  It's pointing toward a good joke.
[00:11:02]  If I told you this joke, blank, I didn't text it to you when I woke up or anything like that.
[00:11:07]  If I told you this joke, you would already have a giggle before the joke finished.
[00:11:13]  And so then it already works as a joke.
[00:11:14]  It's just not a full joke.
[00:11:16]  Okay.
[00:11:17]  Well, let's move on.
[00:11:18]  Let's move on.
[00:11:19]  Let's move on.
[00:11:19]  I'll come up to it.
[00:11:20]  Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the House of Tards.
[00:11:25]  I also was repeating that yesterday.
[00:11:27]  Not unlike Gender Donkey, but I was just like, I kept thinking of the theme song from House of Cards, but then also what I imagine President Card says in the House of Cards, which is like, wow, this is a real house of cards.
[00:11:42]  But then him being like, you know, this is a real house of tards.
[00:11:46]  He also, where's my hug at?
[00:11:48]  That's like a big Kevin Spacey.
[00:11:50]  Where am I hugging?
[00:11:51]  They may touch your penis.
[00:11:54]  How about a little suck on that little pig skin you got down there?
[00:11:57]  Okay, so news flash to all our listeners.
[00:12:02]  I'm going to tell you some private information.

=== Biden's Decampment Mystery (15:25) ===

[00:12:06]  We were on vacation for two weeks.
[00:12:08]  And that's a fact.
[00:12:09]  And we had planned this because we like to plan out our schedules because we are very organized.
[00:12:14]  And by we, I mean me.
[00:12:15]  And also a fact.
[00:12:17]  We had this planned.
[00:12:18]  And then I, I will speak for myself.
[00:12:21]  Only.
[00:12:22]  We were sitting by the pool.
[00:12:25]  We were enjoying ourselves in the sun.
[00:12:29]  Little sun in the buns, but with appropriate SPF, always be responsible.
[00:12:34]  And then I hear just next to me a gaggle from a little family going, Trump is Montrot, Trump is Montrot.
[00:12:45]  And I'm like, what are they fucking talking about?
[00:12:46]  I pull up my phone.
[00:12:47]  I look, I pull up X, the everything app, obviously.
[00:12:50]  Go to.
[00:12:50]  That's where it all goes down.
[00:12:52]  Yeah.
[00:12:52]  It all goes down on X, unfortunately.
[00:12:54]  I hate to let everyone know.
[00:12:55]  We're going to talk about that today.
[00:12:57]  But, and I see immediately bullets.
[00:13:02]  Trump, shot, video, him crouching down.
[00:13:05]  Is he alive?
[00:13:06]  I mean, yes, he got up very alive, yeah.
[00:13:10]  First instinct, get it in the group chat.
[00:13:12]  Where's Brace?
[00:13:13]  He must be freaking out.
[00:13:15]  Brace, where were you?
[00:13:16]  I was in a place where there is no reception called Bobega Bay.
[00:13:20]  Have you guys seen the birds?
[00:13:22]  Listeners, if you've seen the birds, I was in the town where the birds were.
[00:13:25]  Weirdly enough, complete coincidence, staying in this precise same hotel room that Liz would stay in two days later.
[00:13:32]  Yes.
[00:13:34]  But same room.
[00:13:36]  You got it nice and cozy for you.
[00:13:37]  I had, oh my God.
[00:13:40]  But I had no, what do you call it?
[00:13:43]  Reception.
[00:13:44]  Which is incredible because I'm imagining you literally on like a mountaintop.
[00:13:49]  I was on a mountaintop.
[00:13:50]  Not unlike the sound of music.
[00:13:52]  I imagine you twirling arms out.
[00:13:57]  Enjoying the beautiful sunshine, the clean air afforded to beautiful California thanks to all of the green woke madness that happens in that state.
[00:14:09]  Gavin nuisance.
[00:14:10]  Yeah.
[00:14:13]  I really enjoyed the California air and the water, I gotta say.
[00:14:15]  But and then the frustration that you must have felt seeing that something was something insane, literally insane level was happening, and yet so out of reach for you.
[00:14:30]  Not only out of reach, but it was also like the one day of the entire vacation that I was actually like on a real vacation.
[00:14:39]  Like I'm staying in a hotel.
[00:14:40]  I'm like out in the wilderness.
[00:14:42]  Like I'm gonna.
[00:14:43]  You're touching grass.
[00:14:44]  I'm reading the book that you gave me.
[00:14:45]  Oh, lovely.
[00:14:46]  Great book.
[00:14:46]  Yeah, it's great now.
[00:14:47]  Great book.
[00:14:48]  Tragic story about the guy's kid.
[00:14:50]  My God.
[00:14:51]  And the grandson.
[00:14:52]  Well, there's a lot going on.
[00:14:54]  Horrible.
[00:14:55]  But yeah, that's not in the book.
[00:14:58]  But it is.
[00:15:02]  But a great book.
[00:15:03]  And I was like, I'm just going to, I'm going to go to a mountain.
[00:15:05]  I'm going to fucking read.
[00:15:06]  I'm going to sit on the beach.
[00:15:07]  I'm going to read.
[00:15:07]  You're seeing some songs.
[00:15:09]  I'm singing a song.
[00:15:09]  I songs from some Nazis.
[00:15:11]  Is that what they're doing in that movie?
[00:15:12]  No, there's a lot of things going on.
[00:15:13]  I never saw it.
[00:15:14]  Are they Yehudis?
[00:15:16]  They aren't?
[00:15:17]  They're not Jewish?
[00:15:18]  The Von Trapps.
[00:15:18]  The Von Trapps.
[00:15:19]  I never saw the fucking movie.
[00:15:20]  I don't know what their name is.
[00:15:21]  Well, it's Von Trapp.
[00:15:22]  What do you think?
[00:15:23]  Well, maybe they're trapping the Aryan or something into complex financial schemes.
[00:15:29]  Anyways, I was ready to relax, and then that happened.
[00:15:31]  And I got to tell you guys, it was difficult for me to relax.
[00:15:34]  And you didn't yet have the gender donkey to bring you back.
[00:15:37]  I didn't have my gender donkey to bring me back to reality.
[00:15:40]  It was a fucking, it ruined.
[00:15:42]  I will say this.
[00:15:44]  Trump getting shot had a worse effect on me than it did on Donald Trump.
[00:15:48]  Yeah, also there does seem to be some argument over whether or not he was actually shot or if he was hit by shrapnel, but we can get into that.
[00:15:59]  We'll get into that later.
[00:15:59]  We're going to talk about the assassination later on in the show.
[00:16:02]  Because that's not the only thing we missed.
[00:16:05]  We pretty much missed everything.
[00:16:07]  I will say this.
[00:16:07]  Any exciting thing that has happened in this election so far, not any, every, any, every, whatever, all happened precisely when we were on vacation.
[00:16:17]  And mandated vacation.
[00:16:18]  Mandated vacation.
[00:16:19]  Not only that, with very interesting historical episodes that we had pre-recorded that were being released during that time, which confused people.
[00:16:27]  Yes.
[00:16:28]  And I'm sick of your confusion.
[00:16:30]  It's fine to be confused.
[00:16:31]  I'm confused often, but I don't tell everybody about it.
[00:16:34]  Yeah.
[00:16:35]  Just, you know what?
[00:16:37]  If you're ever like, why are they putting out an episode like this?
[00:16:39]  Here's a little tip.
[00:16:40]  Pretend like you're in the know as to why we're not doing it.
[00:16:43]  Yeah.
[00:16:43]  First of all, fake it till you make it.
[00:16:45]  Never ask a question, especially if you're a man.
[00:16:48]  Oh my God.
[00:16:50]  Because that is just, it is a, that is a one-way ticket to soydom.
[00:16:55]  So, Liz, what happened?
[00:16:57]  I can't believe old man Joe was finally cooed.
[00:17:01]  Joe Biden, the world's oldest president.
[00:17:04]  The world's oldest man.
[00:17:06]  They should, he should be up there.
[00:17:08]  You know what?
[00:17:10]  Forget getting him some like presidential, like, you know, medal or, you know, he's the best president ever for resigning.
[00:17:17]  But don't care.
[00:17:18]  Put him in the world, like the Guinness Book of World Records.
[00:17:21]  Oldest man.
[00:17:22]  Oldest president.
[00:17:23]  Even if it's not true, I think he deserves that honor.
[00:17:25]  That's how we should remember him as the oldest man ever.
[00:17:30]  I think I gave this advice in a previous episode, but I was saying his last final gambit to not retire should have been, I have Benjamin's Buttons disease and I'm only, I'm 17.
[00:17:41]  Right.
[00:17:41]  I'm actually 17.
[00:17:42]  I'm so old.
[00:17:44]  I've actually crossed over.
[00:17:45]  I've, you know, it's a sort of like a dialectical Aging motion where he's actually gone through the looking glass and is now so old that he's actually young.
[00:17:56]  Yeah, I think that could have worked, but um, unfortunately, that and then any other thing they tried did not.
[00:18:05]  And he was beheaded on live national television.
[00:18:08]  Well, no, not exactly.
[00:18:09]  Well, he, yes, they, yeah, yeah.
[00:18:11]  But he, I will say this: it has been sort of extraordinary to watch.
[00:18:15]  And obviously, I'm sure most of our listeners have picked up on all this same stuff too.
[00:18:20]  But it was so extraordinary to watch this like semi-circling of the wagons around Biden after the debate, but these great defections by people who could see which way the wind was blowing and who themselves helped blow that wind.
[00:18:34]  But it really, I think one of the moments that is not to be missed, what the fuck sentence is that?
[00:18:41]  I love it.
[00:18:42]  But you know what I'm saying here is that how bad one of the moments that's not to be missed is how Joe Biden's honey has gotten sour.
[00:18:53]  Two years.
[00:18:54]  Don't say that.
[00:18:54]  Amy Klobuchar will appear.
[00:18:56]  It's true.
[00:18:57]  I would love to see her and him engaged in a fucking mutual oral.
[00:19:03]  But like for the past two years, Joe Biden has been essentially a vegetable.
[00:19:08]  Like, you know how you can get electricity from a potato?
[00:19:11]  Yes.
[00:19:11]  Like, he's been like a potato that you're occasionally plugging in.
[00:19:15]  That's exactly what he looks like.
[00:19:16]  A potato science, like sixth grade science fair experiment.
[00:19:19]  Uh-huh.
[00:19:20]  And that's Liz is saying that because he's Irish specifically.
[00:19:23]  But he don't, he don't, those he doesn't know.
[00:19:25]  They don't, those people don't lose on a podcast, Liz.
[00:19:28]  But he has been basically, he had some kind of, we don't know what.
[00:19:33]  Maybe he got a sudden onset Parkinson's, a disease I just made up.
[00:19:36]  Or, or maybe it's real time.
[00:19:38]  I do think I said that like when we were doing the episode after the debate, that it looked to me like he like he was so stiff that it was reminding me of some like early Parkinson's.
[00:19:48]  Yeah.
[00:19:50]  Which I feel like in the reporting that came out since people have sort of there were murmurs that potentially that was true.
[00:19:57]  Although it's funny because as of recently, all that talk has basically gone out the window.
[00:20:02]  One thing to consider too is perhaps his knees were very sore from sucking off Israel's penis for the past, well, his entire career, but especially since October.
[00:20:13]  But some kind of mini strokes, major strokes, whatever.
[00:20:16]  The man is fucked.
[00:20:18]  He's done.
[00:20:20]  Stick a fork at him.
[00:20:22]  But this coddling he's gotten from the media that suddenly turned into all that great capacity for love, turned into a great capacity for you're too old, just die already.
[00:20:33]  And I think it's funny because we've heard so much about like, oh, people don't trust the media anymore.
[00:20:40]  People don't trust the media anymore.
[00:20:41]  It's like, it's your fault for not trusting the media or like not taking it seriously as an institution.
[00:20:45]  Like, our institutions are like, people don't have confidence anymore.
[00:20:49]  And part of that is the fault of the people.
[00:20:52]  Well, the media has been totally absent on this, aside from a story here and there in the past few years.
[00:20:58]  And, like, really, I understand that, like, obviously they've been pushing for him to do like interviews, but like, I feel like no one has asked the next question because he hasn't been doing a lot of interviews since 2022.
[00:21:09]  But I feel like the next question is that is like, why isn't he doing interviews?
[00:21:12]  And the obvious answer is because he's a fucking vegetable.
[00:21:16]  Because he can't.
[00:21:16]  He fucking can't do it.
[00:21:18]  He can't do it.
[00:21:18]  He can't talk about his job, which is the most apparently important job in the world in front of a fucking, what?
[00:21:25]  Some like obsequious reporter from the Washington Post.
[00:21:28]  Yes.
[00:21:29]  I mean, ridiculous.
[00:21:30]  I do think that, and this has been hinted at in, I mean, so, you know, okay, so immediately after the debate, all the knives started coming out.
[00:21:38]  Yeah.
[00:21:39]  And that's when all the leaks started coming out where they were like, you know, he's unwell.
[00:21:44]  This, you know, you know, people within the administration have been hiding him.
[00:21:49]  You know, oh, the great hiding of Biden was happening.
[00:21:53]  And, you know, now I think that's kind of gone away a little bit now that he's resigned, but, or resigned the nomination.
[00:22:00]  But it was a really like almost like knives out moment, it felt like where, I mean, there was a quote from the Wall Street Journal in one of the hit pieces where they were like, oh, there were signs as early as 2021, which like I feel like we all have kind of been saying this for a while or have known this for a while.
[00:22:20]  Like anyone kind of paying attention was like, that dude's fucking old and not like in just like old man way.
[00:22:27]  Like maybe something's a little bit off with him.
[00:22:30]  Yeah.
[00:22:30]  You know, and like almost like it reminds me kind of of how when the Harvey Weinstein stuff broke, everyone was like, oh yeah, I heard about that for years.
[00:22:40]  Like, and it would be like, I don't even know anybody in Hollywood and I knew about Harvey Weinstein.
[00:22:45]  It was almost like a weird open secret, but not really, but like no one would talk about it.
[00:22:49]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:50]  Yeah.
[00:22:50]  Yeah.
[00:22:51]  Like this was from one of the Wall Street Journal pieces.
[00:22:53]  President Biden has just finished trying to persuade a group of congressional Democrats to pass the $1 trillion infrastructure bill when Nancy Pelosi took the microphone.
[00:23:00]  Arm, 30 minutes of remarks on Capitol Hill.
[00:23:04]  Biden spoke disjointly and failed to make concrete asks of lawmakers.
[00:23:07]  After he left, a visibly frustrated Pelosi told the group that she would articulate what Biden was trying to say.
[00:23:13]  That was October 2021.
[00:23:15]  That month was the last time Biden met with the House Democratic caucus on the Hill regarding legislation.
[00:23:20]  So that's like less than 10 months into the presidency.
[00:23:22]  And he's just like the last time he met with nonverbal.
[00:23:25]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:26]  And it reminds one so much of the Feinstein Feinstein stuff.
[00:23:31]  Yeah.
[00:23:31]  Or as Liz would call him, or her Feinstein, but of the Diane Feinstein stuff.
[00:23:36]  We're like, okay, well, this woman is dead.
[00:23:40]  You know, she's sort of just being hauled around and like.
[00:23:42]  She's like, weekend at Biden's.
[00:23:44]  Her fucking aides are like voting or whatever for her.
[00:23:47]  Yeah.
[00:23:48]  It seems like we're basically, we have like another version of that where, as there has been a lot of reporting on, he's being shielded by like a smaller and smaller circle of advisors that like it is really classic.
[00:24:01]  I got to hand it to them.
[00:24:04]  It's pretty classic.
[00:24:05]  And as a little, as a little tip for our listeners out there, I know that many of you are basically non-functional, right?
[00:24:12]  Like whether through some grotesque deformity you have or some spiritual failing that has manifested itself as a mental ailment, many of you are unable to complete basic tasks.
[00:24:25]  What you need is a small circle of advisors to shield you from everybody, like at work.
[00:24:29]  Absolutely.
[00:24:30]  Also, for all of our older listeners out there, always get a small circle of advisors.
[00:24:36]  You should have one at this point.
[00:24:37]  You should.
[00:24:37]  To begin with.
[00:24:38]  You should.
[00:24:39]  Yeah.
[00:24:39]  But Biden had like eight people basically that saw him.
[00:24:43]  Yeah.
[00:24:43]  I mean, he was meeting with his cabinet secretary, secretaries, secretaries.
[00:24:47]  Sorry, a little Biden moment there.
[00:24:49]  He was meeting with his cabinet secretaries like once a month.
[00:24:53]  Yeah.
[00:24:54]  I don't know what he was doing.
[00:24:56]  And it seems like genuinely, I'm not like being like, oh, I'm a podcast guy.
[00:25:00]  It doesn't seem like kind of anybody knows what like Biden was doing during the day when he wasn't like doing like a like a meeting with somebody or whatever.
[00:25:09]  Like, is he gov, like the basic business of governing did not seem to really be in his hands?
[00:25:15]  I mean, I think like, I think that's absolutely true.
[00:25:18]  And I think it's still true.
[00:25:20]  But like clearly, there have been a, you know, a group of, I don't know, unelected managers, technocrats, advisors, whatever we want to call them.
[00:25:34]  Lobbyists, lobbyists, who are all handling day-to-day decision making at some level that usually would have been handled by the president, right?
[00:25:45]  Yeah.
[00:25:45]  My assumption is that, like, I don't know, the way people talk about Biden too is they always use like toddler language.
[00:25:52]  Like, they'll be like, well, for big boy decisions, we would take it to the president, which is like, why are you talking about the president of the United States?
[00:25:59]  Like, like, well, I'm sorry.
[00:26:01]  He wasn't good at the debate last night.
[00:26:02]  He forgot to take his binky out.
[00:26:04]  Yeah, well, we know he's got diapers on.
[00:26:05]  He does have diapers on.
[00:26:06]  He's dyped up.
[00:26:09]  No, but I mean, I do think that, like, I'm assuming that for like big, big time, big boy president decisions.
[00:26:19]  You can't even help yourself.
[00:26:20]  Big boy commander in chief decisions, for example, that would be taken to Biden, you would think.
[00:26:26]  But also, who the fuck knows?
[00:26:28]  Yeah.
[00:26:29]  And then, like, okay, so before we get to his, I want to talk about his crazy speech that was just last night on the TV.
[00:26:36]  I got to be honest, I didn't watch it.
[00:26:37]  Oh, it's a barn burner.
[00:26:39]  But you like that one?
[00:26:43]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:43]  That's classico political commentary.
[00:26:46]  They go, oh, what a barn burner.
[00:26:47]  Like the one from Come and See.
[00:26:51]  No, but okay, so we have to dropping out on Twitter, excuse me, X, the everything app, is fucking nuts.
[00:27:02]  So Biden got Biden got COVID in the same way that I get COVID all the time and was like overwhelmed and went incommunicado.
[00:27:12]  Well, he did go into the cave with the advisors, which I gotta say.
[00:27:16]  Classic move.
[00:27:17]  Classic move.
[00:27:17]  Can't fault him for that.
[00:27:18]  And in that, as he decamped, after he decamped for what, a weekend.
[00:27:23]  I think it was like five days.
[00:27:25]  I don't know.
[00:27:26]  Whatever.
[00:27:26]  That's all you were getting to me.
[00:27:27]  How many of you say?
[00:27:28]  Oh, yeah.

=== Biden's Decampment (10:11) ===

[00:27:31]  And also, you know what?
[00:27:32]  I recommend it.
[00:27:33]  Everyone should do that.
[00:27:34]  Yeah.
[00:27:37]  So he decamped with the advisors.
[00:27:38]  He's in the cave.
[00:27:40]  He's figuring things out.
[00:27:41]  He's in the arena.
[00:27:44]  Well, he's not in the arena.
[00:27:45]  Well, he's in an arena.
[00:27:47]  That's true.
[00:27:49]  He is in an arena.
[00:27:50]  I mean, and really.
[00:27:52]  Yeah.
[00:27:53]  Why not?
[00:27:53]  Sure.
[00:27:57]  Sunday morning.
[00:28:00]  Good morning, Sunday morning.
[00:28:01]  There you go.
[00:28:02]  You know I had to do it.
[00:28:05]  He drops on Twitter unbeknownst to anyone on his staff.
[00:28:09]  And at the White House.
[00:28:10]  And at the White House, because it's written on personal Joe Biden stationery.
[00:28:14]  It's not even on the like from the official office of the, it's not even on the White House letterhead.
[00:28:18]  It's just like the Joe Biden desk of Joseph Robinette Robinhood Bidenette.
[00:28:25]  From the office of Joe.
[00:28:29]  Whatever.
[00:28:29]  Anyway, anyway.
[00:28:32]  His letter saying that he's not going to seek re-election.
[00:28:37]  And then there's potentially like a docu sign signature.
[00:28:42]  Yeah, definitely a docu sign.
[00:28:44]  Also, because it's a real question of if he can sign something.
[00:28:48]  I would like to see him hold a pen and move it.
[00:28:51]  Well, I actually see me hold a pen.
[00:28:54]  The way I was seeing those hands working.
[00:28:56]  Have you seen me hold a pen?
[00:28:57]  Yeah, you have serial killer handwriting.
[00:28:59]  It's not even, I hold it.
[00:29:00]  They must have taught me fucked up because I hold it like it's the teaching and not the learning, huh?
[00:29:06]  Yeah, it's the teaching, not the learning.
[00:29:08]  Okay.
[00:29:08]  I was but a babe.
[00:29:10]  I was but a doe.
[00:29:11]  And whatever monstrous public school teachers taught me much like a prison.
[00:29:18]  And they taught me to write fucked up.
[00:29:21]  It's their fault.
[00:29:22]  And I never changed it.
[00:29:25]  We could do penmanship courses.
[00:29:26]  That would be fun.
[00:29:27]  I could do a lot of things, but I'm not going to.
[00:29:31]  What am I going to do that for?
[00:29:33]  But I signed my initials.
[00:29:37]  But he was ensconced in his bosom of small, small circle of advisors, like three or four people down there in Delaware with him.
[00:29:45]  They know he makes a few phone calls.
[00:29:47]  He calls Kamala.
[00:29:48]  I think he calls his campaign chair and he calls one other person.
[00:29:51]  And then he gets.
[00:29:52]  Someone calls someone.
[00:29:53]  Someone calls.
[00:29:54]  Yeah, yeah, it's true.
[00:29:55]  Someone calls someone.
[00:29:56]  And then he gets the White House on a video chat, which I'm sure he set up.
[00:30:00]  And he sent him out a Google calendar notification.
[00:30:03]  And then he's like, I'm not running for re-election.
[00:30:07]  And then bam, one minute later, according to BBC, his ex goes up.
[00:30:13]  And it's kind of crazy.
[00:30:16]  So we got to do it.
[00:30:18]  We got to do it.
[00:30:19]  Coup review.
[00:30:21]  It's time.
[00:30:23]  Fucking masterful.
[00:30:27]  What you got to do is you got to isolate, isolate, isolate.
[00:30:31]  And that's like the number one thing is when the person you need out is weak, you have to exploit that weakness.
[00:30:38]  It's the theory of deep penetration that you have to go in, like have to make an incision or wait for him to disperse his forces by his own, you know, moronic strategies and then just get in there and just spread outwards as much as possible and surround and kind of like, yeah, it's Sun Tzu, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:03]  It was also, it's kind of a mixture of the theory of Blitzkrieg and Marshall Tukhaevsky's theory of deep penetration.
[00:31:11]  And you just really have to get in there at one little break and then exploit it as much as possible.
[00:31:16]  Sure.
[00:31:17]  Little touch icing of Klaus Witz because we got to throw it out there.
[00:31:21]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:31:22]  Always.
[00:31:24]  I'm just thinking of calling myself Klausowitz.
[00:31:27]  But they did it masterfully because he was weak after that debate.
[00:31:32]  And then they just pushed that further and further and further on this one track.
[00:31:36]  He's too old.
[00:31:37]  He's too old.
[00:31:37]  We love you, but you're too old.
[00:31:39]  He's too old.
[00:31:39]  We love you, but you're too old.
[00:31:41]  Until they gave him COVID.
[00:31:43]  They did stop with the we love you.
[00:31:46]  And then just started hammering the you're too old.
[00:31:48]  Yeah.
[00:31:50]  And it was, yeah, he couldn't, he could not beat the rap.
[00:31:54]  And I got to tell you, I got to tell you, if you like, the right-wing people have been calling this a coup and they have this dumb shit where like, oh, they didn't let the voters decide the prime.
[00:32:04]  Nobody fucking who's voting the prime?
[00:32:06]  It was like Joe Biden running against some like dumb fucks that decided to like just run the climate.
[00:32:11]  Okay.
[00:32:12]  Who was it?
[00:32:12]  Dean Phillips.
[00:32:13]  Dean Phillips.
[00:32:14]  Why do I know that?
[00:32:15]  Why do you know that?
[00:32:16]  It was a barn burner.
[00:32:17]  It was a barn burner.
[00:32:18]  But it's like nobody fucking and nobody cares.
[00:32:21]  They would vote for whoever's going to be the big one, anyways.
[00:32:23]  I will say that.
[00:32:24]  Yeah, they're very annoying.
[00:32:25]  We hate them.
[00:32:26]  Go away.
[00:32:26]  You're a nuisance.
[00:32:28]  But I am really enjoying the gossip in the New York Post, as I always do.
[00:32:34]  And there was a really good story about it.
[00:32:38]  I can't remember the title of it, but it was like all of the ways in which this was like, you know, party insiders and donors coming together to like coup the president.
[00:32:48]  And this is a line from it.
[00:32:49]  Operatives at the very highest levels of the Democratic Party threatened President Biden with forcibly removing him from office unless he stepped.
[00:32:56]  Forcibly?
[00:32:57]  Probably pretty easy.
[00:32:59]  Sources told the Post the well-orchestrated quote palace coup to stop the faltering president from seeking re-election had been in place for weeks, but stubborn Biden, that sounds like a Trump nickname, fought it every step of the way.
[00:33:15]  And they go on and they talk about how, like, you know, I assume Crazy Nancy went in there and was like, we're going to do the 25th on you because we know you're sick.
[00:33:24]  We know you're old.
[00:33:26]  We know you don't do shit because you're potato.
[00:33:30]  So, you know, we are letting you, you know, door number one, you keep your dignity, you resign, and we have Van Jones live on CNN crying about how much of a beautiful president you are.
[00:33:44]  He's an old guy, but the heart's still there.
[00:33:48]  You know, the words aren't as clear, but the love is as clear.
[00:33:54]  The heart is still there.
[00:33:55]  Door number two, we completely embarrass your legacy.
[00:33:59]  25th, you're out.
[00:34:01]  You're out.
[00:34:02]  You're out.
[00:34:03]  Either way, you got to go.
[00:34:04]  You're declared legally stupid.
[00:34:06]  Yes.
[00:34:06]  But I do also really like the image of them like kind of like smothering him with pillows and being like, we did it, Joe.
[00:34:15]  Didn't they kill Scalia like that?
[00:34:17]  Yeah.
[00:34:17]  Oh, yeah.
[00:34:19]  I, yeah, it is like, it is funny how everybody turned against him.
[00:34:25]  And it seems like the few people that were sticking up for him were like, man, you really don't get the memos, do you?
[00:34:31]  Like, they don't include you in the group chat because you are fucking out.
[00:34:34]  I think also his like circle of AIDS was getting like, was a dwindling.
[00:34:40]  It was a dwindling circle.
[00:34:42]  Certainly true.
[00:34:43]  So by the time he gave his speech last night, I mean, I will say the other right-wing theories about the speech, because we've got to cover some of the theories.
[00:34:51]  One, they think, they think Biden's dead.
[00:34:54]  That one is stupid.
[00:34:55]  They're overplaying their hand with that.
[00:34:56]  Biden's not.
[00:34:58]  Also, why would they cover up that Biden's dead?
[00:35:00]  I mean, that seems like a really easy one if they were just like, oh, he died.
[00:35:03]  It seems like a good thing if he dies.
[00:35:04]  She's fresh as them.
[00:35:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:35:07]  But also, like, then the idea is like, one, either it's Freaky Friday Body Devil, Classico.
[00:35:13]  Classico.
[00:35:14]  So guy in, like, weird, like, movie FX, YouTube video style.
[00:35:20]  Joe Biden.
[00:35:21]  It's Hunter, like, how they had that fucking James Gandalfini's kid play him in the movie of the Sopranos.
[00:35:29]  I don't like that either.
[00:35:30]  I actually severely don't rock with that, but I also have never seen this apparently.
[00:35:33]  It's crossing timelines in a way that you shouldn't fuck around with.
[00:35:35]  It does seem demonic.
[00:35:37]  Yeah.
[00:35:37]  But it could be Hunter is playing an aged up Hunter.
[00:35:41]  Hunter's veneers are so bad that we would see that like a mile away.
[00:35:45]  That's true.
[00:35:45]  Yeah.
[00:35:46]  They're like fucking bigger than Miley Cyrus's.
[00:35:51]  But then the other idea is that it was a total deep fake.
[00:35:54]  That it's just completely.
[00:35:55]  He used Sora.
[00:35:57]  Yeah, but I'm like, why would you make the deep fake that fat?
[00:36:00]  Like he was still doing his like kind of old man whisper voice and like he kept fucking up in the speech and like resign.
[00:36:08]  There was like, he was like super robotic and he can see he can't move his hands.
[00:36:12]  It's like, well, why would you do that?
[00:36:13]  Wouldn't you try to make him look more like better if you were going to do a deep fake of him?
[00:36:18]  They should make sense.
[00:36:19]  Movies like White House Down or like the other one that was exactly the same as that, but about trying to get a really old president to safety and like having to walk Joe Biden like really slowly through the White House is under attack.
[00:36:30]  With Clive Owen.
[00:36:31]  Yeah, it's like, because the president, we need you to hurry up.
[00:36:35]  Easy does it.
[00:36:36]  We need your handprint on this shore.
[00:36:38]  Let's take it easy.
[00:36:39]  Like pressing, pulling his fingers, his like fucking stiff fingers back so he can do a handprint to get into the bunker.
[00:36:45]  Oh my God.
[00:36:46]  But it was a really weird speech.
[00:36:48]  He didn't really say like why he was stepping down.
[00:36:51]  He just sort of was like, it's time for another generation.
[00:36:53]  It's time for another generation to take cold.
[00:36:56]  It's time for another generation.
[00:36:58]  And in general, kind of, I will say it did, it was giving hostage video.
[00:37:03]  Like it felt like there was someone behind the camera with a gun who was like, you better fucking resign, old man.
[00:37:09]  Here's the, the thing is that we all know this is that Biden is, is stubborn.
[00:37:13]  That's like the one Biden thing.
[00:37:14]  Biden is stubborn and hates everybody.
[00:37:17]  Yeah, and honestly, relatable.
[00:37:18]  Yeah, I get it.
[00:37:20]  But that abrupt decision to drop out, I understand why people are like, plus Jill Jill, Dr. Jill, quote-tweeted it, reposted it.
[00:37:31]  I'm not going to use his language, quote-to-with a heart emoji, not even a full heart emoji, not even a green brat summer emoji, but the little double floating away up to heaven emoji.

=== Kamala's Failing Upwards Vibe (11:53) ===

[00:37:42]  It's rough.
[00:37:45]  That was shady.
[00:37:45]  That was shady.
[00:37:46]  That was fucking shady.
[00:37:47]  And I don't, you know that I love women.
[00:37:49]  Well, I don't think that, but whatever, it's just not.
[00:37:54]  That kind of stabbing in the back from a long-term second wife, possibly second wife, first one died, is just unconscionable.
[00:38:06]  No.
[00:38:06]  I can't bear it.
[00:38:07]  But he's out.
[00:38:08]  He's out.
[00:38:09]  He's out.
[00:38:09]  Kamala is in.
[00:38:12]  Now, Kamala is...
[00:38:14]  Kamala, excuse me.
[00:38:15]  Kamala, whatever.
[00:38:18]  Kamala is beautiful, retarded, Asian, and troubled by immigration.
[00:38:29]  Oh, you changed it.
[00:38:30]  What was it before?
[00:38:31]  I have to look it up.
[00:38:32]  Trump's Nightmare?
[00:38:32]  Yes.
[00:38:33]  Trump's Nightmare.
[00:38:33]  Yeah, okay.
[00:38:34]  I like that one.
[00:38:35]  I feel like Asian is the one that's not working.
[00:38:37]  She is Asian.
[00:38:38]  No, no, no.
[00:38:39]  Well, yes, but I think it's too much of a reach.
[00:38:42]  What should it be?
[00:38:43]  I don't know, but I feel like there's a better one that we haven't figured out yet.
[00:38:46]  Amazing?
[00:38:48]  It's going to be a little bit more specific.
[00:38:49]  We'll get it.
[00:38:50]  A beautiful woman?
[00:38:54]  Could be.
[00:38:55]  Kamala is it?
[00:38:56]  Kamala.
[00:38:58]  What is it?
[00:38:59]  Kamala.
[00:39:02]  Kamala.
[00:39:02]  It's Kamala.
[00:39:04]  How to pronounce Kamala.
[00:39:09]  An Indian person's guide is saying, oh, no.
[00:39:14]  Saying K. Mala Harris's name correctly.
[00:39:17]  Get out of here with Kamala for most of my life, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:39:20]  It's like one of those fucking recipes that's just forever.
[00:39:23]  How do you pronounce it?
[00:39:25]  It's not Kamala.
[00:39:27]  It's never pronounced Kamala.
[00:39:29]  Instead, it's more subtle, closer to Kamala.
[00:39:32]  Okay.
[00:39:34]  That doesn't seem right.
[00:39:35]  These are so many parameters.
[00:39:36]  Everyone is saying Kamala.
[00:39:38]  We're saying Kamala.
[00:39:39]  This one is still saying her name.
[00:39:41]  And it's just, they're just trying to get ad money.
[00:39:43]  Stop clicking on that sneak.
[00:39:44]  Did we do that?
[00:39:46]  Okay.
[00:39:47]  This was a big sigh of relief from basically everyone who would call themselves the left to like liberal progressives to centrist liberals, whatever anyone wants to call it.
[00:40:00]  Just a big sigh of relief from progressives nationwide.
[00:40:05]  You know, and it's funny to see, like, I will say, I didn't actually, I didn't see this coming.
[00:40:11]  Although, obviously, I should have because it happened and I possessed some small amount of magical foresight.
[00:40:19]  But it really did, like, they, they, people came out strong for Vice President Harris.
[00:40:27]  Yeah.
[00:40:28]  And in a much like, in a much more energetic way than I thought they would have.
[00:40:32]  Well, we had talked about how the coconut memes had been moving and grooving for a while.
[00:40:37]  And so people are pretty primed and ready.
[00:40:39]  I think it'll be interesting to see.
[00:40:41]  I feel like they're kind of riding her on this sort of like I keep thinking of and just like that, which not just because she's an older woman, but because people are like kind of into it as a guilty pleasure.
[00:40:53]  And I feel like people are kind of tapping into some like guilty pleasure energy.
[00:40:59]  But I'm not sure how long that's going to last or if there's going to be some buyer's remorse because things move quickly and the zeitgeist changes very rapidly.
[00:41:10]  Well, there's a bit of a blank slate that she provides for a lot of people to project their fears, hopes, desires, and insecurities onto.
[00:41:18]  And I think that that maybe will eventually run out once she like develops a political vision that she presents to the country.
[00:41:27]  Because she's really, the main thing you can say about Vice President Harris is that she has been absent from the public eye, except for like every three months she says, like, algebra's neat or whatever, but with like 50 words saying that.
[00:41:41]  And clearly on some kind of pill.
[00:41:43]  I'm just going to be straight up with you.
[00:41:46]  She's on something.
[00:41:47]  Or if she's just like that, we need an MRI.
[00:41:51]  Why are all politicians so strange?
[00:41:55]  I mean, it's funny because I do think, I was thinking about this, and like, I kind of feel like the Kamala failing upwards thing is kind of working for her in this like specific election, kind of as a vibe.
[00:42:09]  Like, there is the one, the obvious, like, well, she's young relative to basically whatever else we've got going on there.
[00:42:17]  But I also think that she gives off energy that like she makes people not want to think about politics, which is like working because this is something we've talked about a lot.
[00:42:30]  But the kind of like, you know, how desperate a lot of like middle-class liberals seem to be to get to a place where they don't have to think about any of this shit anymore.
[00:42:41]  Yeah.
[00:42:42]  And I think that her being this weird kind of like, she's fine.
[00:42:48]  Yeah.
[00:42:49]  Like, I like kind of like you're saying, can like project it, you know, kind of blank slate that can be projected on is like working for her.
[00:42:57]  But what's, I was thinking like, just it's weird to think of her, and I don't know if any of our female listeners are feeling the same way, but I was thinking about this.
[00:43:05]  Like it's weird to think of her as the first female president, like capital, first, capital F female president, because like that was such a big deal talking point, like as a kid growing up.
[00:43:17]  Yeah.
[00:43:17]  And like, you know, someday there's going to be this woman present when you grow up.
[00:43:20]  You could be a little proud.
[00:43:21]  All the girls want to be whatever.
[00:43:22]  Like it's, it's, I don't know if it's hard to kind of describe, but it always being this sort of specter, kind of, right?
[00:43:31]  And there's the, there's a kind of baggage of the accomplishment, which is part of what makes it so difficult to achieve, right?
[00:43:39]  And that was obviously very, that's, you know, everyone talked about that with Hillary or whatever, and depending on what you think about that.
[00:43:46]  But all of that stuff and that baggage feels very absent in the case of Kamala and not just because of like campaign messaging and clearly they're not trying to do any kind of like 2016 style or 2020 even when she ran style kind of like, you know, break the glass ceiling.
[00:44:05]  Or even just like, you know, making sort of gestures at progressive kind of politics that were super, you know, super big in 2020.
[00:44:15]  She's not, she's not woken it up so far.
[00:44:17]  No.
[00:44:18]  And so it's sort of funny to think that like we would that they would hit that we would hit that achievement, you know, have a first female president or whatever and not in the HRC girl bossy, you know, kind of like pussy hat orgy mania that happened in 2016 and not in a like retread of that because I think like what you're saying, there's like no indication that like the Harris campaign is going to run that way,
[00:44:45]  but almost in like this person seems good enough to get me to stop caring about politics.
[00:44:51]  Yeah.
[00:44:52]  There's, you know, you say like there's like a middle class liberal thing about like feeling towards that.
[00:44:58]  And I agree with that.
[00:44:59]  But I think it's more than that.
[00:45:01]  I mean, actually, this is also kind of middle class liberals, but I think like a lot of like lefty type people are also kind of relieved, right?
[00:45:10]  Because they allow, I think there's a lot of people every four years who are just like looking desperately for an excuse to vote for the Democratic Party, right?
[00:45:20]  I mean, that's just, that's a fact.
[00:45:21]  Whether you are a Democrat or not, whether you're voting for that, that isn't a, that, that happens.
[00:45:25]  And most of the time it's not conscious.
[00:45:27]  No, And I think that there was this sort of like palpable relief upon like what you might call the soft, well, they would in Britain call the soft left that was like, okay, like we can kind of like make the vague case that she's going to be better about like Palestine.
[00:45:48]  Or like, she know she doesn't like sort of share in some of Joe Biden's baggage.
[00:45:53]  And like, maybe she'll like, oh, she's the most left-wing Senate voting record.
[00:45:56]  The fuck does that mean?
[00:45:58]  And like, like, it's, you know, she's, she's, she's good enough.
[00:46:01]  She's good enough.
[00:46:02]  There's this sense that like she's good enough.
[00:46:04]  And then there's this like kind of false bravado, like we bullied Joe Biden out.
[00:46:09]  You did not do, you have no power over that.
[00:46:15]  I'm sorry.
[00:46:15]  You just, you don't.
[00:46:16]  Like there is, there is like, obviously, like there is some sort of like public input in the sense that like polling was showing that people thought he was too old, that his, his numbers were going down.
[00:46:25]  But like you as an individual, like your fucking tweet jokes about Joe Biden did not make him drop out.
[00:46:30]  I do think that the quote unquote, if you can call it groundswell or whatever, I would call it mania that took over X, the everything app, which greatly informs the mainstream media and their information and their reporting and sort of sets a sort of what you would call vibe tone, you know, for how people, like I do think that that had something to do with it.
[00:46:56]  And I, you know, I do think that people were strategizing to see how they could, you know, in back channel ways, like influence or potentially try to influence some of those decisions by hammering stuff in on X or on in Substack or on whatever channels that they had access to.
[00:47:16]  In the comments of ASC's live.
[00:47:17]  It was crazy to see Ezra Klein fucking come back to X to make the point to get Joe Biden out.
[00:47:24]  Yeah.
[00:47:25]  I know.
[00:47:26]  So that is true.
[00:47:28]  But I also think what you're saying is true.
[00:47:30]  That like it's both and, right?
[00:47:32]  It's like what I would say is that what those jokes that they're like, I don't know if they're fully cognizant of the fact that they're doing that.
[00:47:42]  Maybe.
[00:47:43]  I don't know.
[00:47:44]  It just, I don't know.
[00:47:45]  It seems like it's just, I think, what frustrates me is that like I think a lot of people are seeking to, a lot of Palestine stuff is going to get jettisoned from a lot of the public discourse after this, obviously.
[00:48:00]  And I think that there's a lot of people who have felt kind of uncomfortable with it, not because of maybe the content of the actual politics of it, but really because, well, yeah, but really because like it is an impediment to the Democrats gaining power once again over fascist Trump.
[00:48:16]  And like it is like a blemish on like the Democrats, otherwise like, you know, not perfect, but still progressive record.
[00:48:23]  And, you know, that, listen, there's a lot of Democrats in this country.
[00:48:26]  There's probably a lot of Democrats that's listening to this show.
[00:48:29]  That's your politics.
[00:48:30]  I can't do anything about that.
[00:48:31]  But if you're being honest about it, at least you're being honest about it.
[00:48:35]  And a lot of people are just, there's this incapability.
[00:48:38]  And we see this a lot in many different spheres and sectors of politics of this really radical rhetoric.
[00:48:45]  And then at the end, in the final analysis, like a less than even reformist program.
[00:48:53]  They're not actually even seeking to reform anything.
[00:48:54]  They're seeking to just like maintain the status quo in a more equitable direction.
[00:49:00]  And it just, it's, I think we're just, there's a groundswell there right now.
[00:49:06]  I agree.
[00:49:07]  I think some of that's going to dissipate once she actually like elaborates her political anything, you know?
[00:49:13]  Well, it'll be interesting.
[00:49:14]  I mean, I have no idea, but my sense tells me that there's going to be a little bit of buyer's remorse, which might be interesting to watch.
[00:49:22]  Yeah.
[00:49:22]  But of course, we take no position on any political or social or psychological issues.
[00:49:30]  Well, I'm an undecided voter.
[00:49:32]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:49:32]  I take no position.
[00:49:33]  So, well, I want to take a position, but I'm undecided.

=== Silicon Valley's Political Shift (15:08) ===

[00:49:36]  Make your case for me.
[00:49:37]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:49:38]  You come to me.
[00:49:39]  Give me money and buy my vote.
[00:49:42]  Bribe me specifically and I will vote for you.
[00:49:46]  Well, Kamala might because something interesting.
[00:49:51]  Yeah, that was a terrible transition.
[00:49:52]  Oh, yeah, that's good.
[00:49:53]  That's good.
[00:49:54]  But it is sort of related.
[00:49:55]  I want to say that, like, where I'm going with that is that she herself has more ties to certain areas of big business and, let's say, the corporate executive world.
[00:50:09]  Bracie, oh, you're saying that because I'm Jewish.
[00:50:12]  I don't know.
[00:50:12]  We're talking about, I was trying to make a joke, like a link to like donors and buying votes and like donors pledging money.
[00:50:19]  I don't know.
[00:50:20]  It didn't work.
[00:50:20]  No, no, it's a really good term.
[00:50:21]  I'm sorry.
[00:50:22]  Do you want to plug your phone in, by the way?
[00:50:23]  No.
[00:50:24]  You're welcome.
[00:50:25]  But as you were saying, there has been a kind of this goes back into like some of the coup theories, which I do like to kind of dabble in.
[00:50:35]  You know, I love theories.
[00:50:37]  You love theories.
[00:50:38]  Of all kinds.
[00:50:39]  Every kind, especially.
[00:50:42]  Okay.
[00:50:43]  No, but this goes into some of the kind of like coup theories about potentially, you know, business interests being not just spooked by the potato nature of Robinette Bidenette.
[00:50:56]  Yosep Biden.
[00:50:58]  But also, you know, his administration and their stance on, you know, basically on monopoly capitalism.
[00:51:07]  So there has been a kind of soft rebranding of Kamala in the image of the Biden Edmund, but she's really always been known as like extremely business friendly.
[00:51:19]  Her brother-in-law is Tony West, who is Uber's chief legal advisor.
[00:51:22]  Something to watch.
[00:51:24]  And this is from Semaphore's reporting.
[00:51:27]  Wall Street Democrats are lining up behind Kamala Harris with a mixture of relief and genuine enthusiasm, sounds like the loft, for a politician many of them supported in 2020.
[00:51:38]  Finance executives' money and convening power between now and the Democratic Convention will be key to Harris's plans to earn and win her party's nomination.
[00:51:47]  Several donors said Sunday they were prepared to break out checkbooks that had sat untouched since Joe Biden's debate performance.
[00:51:53]  So basically they name a bunch of bigwigs, Blackstone, Senator View, Lazard, all of those guys that are all in on Kamala.
[00:52:01]  Also, Eric Holder, who was, of course, Obama's AG and his law firm was handling all of the vetting for her running mates and I would assume potential staffing questions, which is not a great signal.
[00:52:14]  Holder's firm is representing Amazon in this huge suit that the Biden admin DOJ just filed over monopoly practices that have to do with kind of what they're calling surveillance pricing,
[00:52:30]  which is actually a really, they came up with this term, which is really catchy, but it's all about how you get different pricing for different goods based on your browsing history or individual data that they can profile you on and all this kind of stuff, right?
[00:52:44]  Crazy.
[00:52:46]  So there's like, I don't know.
[00:52:47]  I mean, I think that like there, you know, there's been a bunch of stories that have come out.
[00:52:52]  There's one in the New York Times, and, you know, they're talking about how Harris is trying to build all of these bridges to the business world and that she's making these signals to donors and to executives that, you know, she's not like Biden.
[00:53:06]  She's actually going to do things a bit differently.
[00:53:10]  And one of the, you know, this is one of the, one of the big things, you know, that I just want to flag is this is from the New York Times.
[00:53:16]  Corporate executives have chafed at Mr. Biden's regulatory agenda.
[00:53:20]  Business leaders have also bristled.
[00:53:22]  I love with chafing and a bristling at the action of Federal Trade Commission's chair, Lena Khan, who has tried to crack down on corporate mergers.
[00:53:30]  As vice president, she has expressed skepticism of Ms. Khan's expansive view of antitrust powers, according to a donor who has spoken privately with the vice president.
[00:53:40]  And so, like, if one were in a Palace coup style situation attempting to consolidate support, capital powers, capitalist powers, executives, money bags would be one of the things you would want.
[00:53:57]  You want to line those up behind you.
[00:53:58]  You want to line those up behind you.
[00:54:00]  And one way to promise them something is to say, well, I'm not going to do what the guy before me did.
[00:54:06]  We're going to be all, you know, we're going to pull back on all of this anti-monopoly regulatory shit that we've been doing for the past four years, and we're going to let you guys live in peace.
[00:54:16]  And I would not be surprised if some of those conversations have happened and happened maybe like four, five, six months ago.
[00:54:27]  Before Joe Biden made his decision.
[00:54:29]  I wouldn't be surprised.
[00:54:30]  I mean, I think that like what's been interesting in this election so far is that Silicon Valley has made a lot of moves to support Trump as opposed to supporting the Democrats.
[00:54:43]  And that's a big, big change since 2016.
[00:54:46]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:54:46]  I know that is that is one thing that I think that even those who aren't paying that close attention to politics would have picked up on this point.
[00:54:54]  Even if it's just Elon Musk's immediate endorsement of Donald Trump right after he got he got smoked, his ear got smoked.
[00:55:05]  That is simply the most prominent of them.
[00:55:07]  But you can sort of, if you've been like, if you've had your finger in the wind, is that what it is?
[00:55:13]  If you've had your penis in the wind for the past, put it away.
[00:55:17]  Nope, take it out.
[00:55:18]  Because the wind is, it never stops blowing.
[00:55:20]  That's what they say.
[00:55:24]  That has been building for a while.
[00:55:26]  Like the sort of like lead up to Trump's campaign and Silicon Valley money falling in behind it.
[00:55:33]  I mean, I think that like there's been this like rightward drift and that has not even, I don't think you qualify it as a drift anymore.
[00:55:41]  Like this rightward turn in Silicon Valley for quite a while.
[00:55:46]  Obviously, there's always been people like Peter Thiel, et cetera, that have been like David Sachs that have, although I think David Sachs has also been a Democrat at some point.
[00:55:53]  Yeah.
[00:55:53]  But like, that have, that have been kind of leading that.
[00:55:56]  But like now it seems like the dam has broken and it kind of everybody's getting on board.
[00:56:01]  Yeah.
[00:56:01]  I mean, I do think a lot of that has to do with, you know, I mean, they dress it all up in this anti-woke stuff.
[00:56:08]  And I'm sure there's a lot of it has to do with that too, but I think a good portion of it has to do with a lot of the antitrust work under the Biden admin, visceral hatred for Lena Khan and the FTC.
[00:56:19]  And like all of these guys' interests boil down to just like increasing high-skilled immigration pro-monopoly because they want to fucking get bought out and they want to just merge and they want to, or they want they're like guys like, you know, where they know the only way that AI can actually reach any sort of potential is through like a massive monopoly over, you know, fucking everything.
[00:56:41]  Tax cuts, obviously, everyone loves tax cuts.
[00:56:44]  Opening up global trade.
[00:56:46]  None of this fucking like, you know, none of these guys like this tariff business.
[00:56:50]  No regulation on AI.
[00:56:52]  That's the big, the China stuff is always like the specter looming.
[00:56:55]  And then you've got all the crypto stuff.
[00:56:57]  Well, you know, the immigration stuff is funny because one of Trump's rather's new like kind of policy positions, if you can call it that, that he's put forward, is to increase high-skilled immigration as you very much decrease or stop all other kinds of immigration.
[00:57:15]  And that clearly seems like a SOP to Silicon Valley types.
[00:57:19]  Yes, absolutely.
[00:57:20]  Trump wasn't like thinking about that and fucking Mar-a-Lago or whatever.
[00:57:23]  Like somebody was like, listen, this will get these guys on board.
[00:57:26]  Yes.
[00:57:26]  And like because they need something to distract from the fact that fucking, I mean, Trump wants to like invade Mexico.
[00:57:32]  Trump does want to.
[00:57:34]  And I think that is something.
[00:57:35]  I think they probably will.
[00:57:36]  Yeah.
[00:57:37]  No, like I genuinely think they will just declare the cartels like terrorist organizations and then use the onf to ride in there.
[00:57:44]  Yeah, I think so too.
[00:57:45]  Which is fucking crazy.
[00:57:47]  And no new war.
[00:57:48]  I guarantee there'll still be no new wars guys.
[00:57:50]  Yeah.
[00:57:50]  That's actually not technically a war.
[00:57:52]  It's like it's like fighting battles.
[00:57:54]  It's a targeted.
[00:57:55]  It's like we're like El Salvador now.
[00:57:59]  But which is so funny to see Trump talking shit on Bukele and Bukele being like trying to make all these like passive aggressive tweets being like strong men like don't care or whatever like strong men meet.
[00:58:12]  It's like, all right, boy.
[00:58:14]  That's tough, though, to get, you know, really, you know, so publicly.
[00:58:30]  I do think that, you know, part of this is the Biden unfriendliness to Silicon Valley caught them off guard.
[00:58:37]  Because that's like kind of a first in a lot of ways.
[00:58:40]  Like Obama, obviously Obama like fucking love those guys.
[00:58:43]  Clinton was really friendly with them, you know, and it's like, I think that they weren't used to not having the kind of like favored place.
[00:58:56]  Whereas for the Biden admin, whoever's in that administration really looking at them and taking a critical eye and trying to actually use the fucking tools of governance to kind of rein them in, they were like, wait, what the fuck?
[00:59:06]  This is crazy.
[00:59:07]  Yeah.
[00:59:07]  Yeah.
[00:59:08]  And like part of it was also like making it okay to be a Trump supporter.
[00:59:12]  And by making it okay, I mean like making it basically like socially sanctioned, which it is now.
[00:59:17]  Yeah.
[00:59:17]  And it wasn't in 2016 or 2020.
[00:59:20]  Big way.
[00:59:20]  Yeah.
[00:59:21]  It's like a huge part of this, right?
[00:59:23]  I think that some of that was like architected and funded.
[00:59:25]  And everyone knows like, you know, Peter Thiel was doing funny, funny, funny projects with that.
[00:59:31]  But like some of it was also just, I think, like flows of time, the way that like trends change, things going in, things going out, you know, whatever.
[00:59:39]  But it is like crazy when you think, like back to 2016, there were tech workers that were like demanding their CEOs like, you know, divest all work with the Trump admin or anything that had to do.
[00:59:53]  I mean, fucking Elon Musk like resigned from some like White House advisory board because of Trump's stance on the Paris Climate Accords.
[01:00:04]  Like, can you imagine where we've gone from that to now is like pretty crazy to think about.
[01:00:09]  It's extremely.
[01:00:10]  It's just a total speed run.
[01:00:11]  Well, it's like, it's like Mark Zuckerberg, who I think has long been seen as like the, if not like completely liberal, although he is really liberal, like at least somebody who was, who would, who would not say a kind word about Trump, really, giving this his rizzed up new appearance a spin and saying that Trump looked badass when he got shot.
[01:00:33]  You know, it's like, it does seem like, like, I'm not, that, that doesn't, I don't qualify that as an as an endorsement of Trump, but it is a sign of shifting tides in Silicon Valley.
[01:00:43]  Yeah, I mean, it's just, but also in general, it's just like way more socially acceptable.
[01:00:48]  Like, I would say it's even like it's reached like mainstream econ status, especially with what Musk has done, like to be a Trump supporter in a kind of like urban, like the urban enclave or whatever.
[01:01:00]  Like, it's not like dangerous.
[01:01:02]  I don't know.
[01:01:03]  Anti-woke or whatever is super mainstream now.
[01:01:06]  And we have long said, well, not long said, shortly said, we are now woke.
[01:01:11]  Yeah.
[01:01:12]  As a way to rebel against this mainstream Trumpism.
[01:01:16]  I'm woke now.
[01:01:17]  He, him.
[01:01:18]  Damn.
[01:01:21]  But it's like, I get it.
[01:01:22]  You know, it's like, you know, MSNBC lib culture was cringe and nightmare and you turn against it and that's appealing.
[01:01:29]  But now it's reached this kind of like mass indie status that it's like fully gentrified and it's kind of making everyone feel crazy.
[01:01:37]  Yeah.
[01:01:37]  And it's making people act fucking insane.
[01:01:40]  And I think, I think Trump's pick of Vance as vice president too.
[01:01:47]  We're going to get more into him in a later episode and sort of the space that he inhabits.
[01:01:54]  It's too early to say whether that is a calculation that will pay off or not.
[01:01:59]  I'm not really sure who's a big Vance head.
[01:02:03]  Well, it's funny.
[01:02:03]  So there was some reporting about this.
[01:02:06]  And this is from a piece in The Atlantic, which said that Vance was picked out of confidence, that basically Trump people were predicting a landslide against Biden.
[01:02:17]  And then Vance was seen as a gesture to, and this is a quote, the base.
[01:02:21]  And we can talk about what that means in a second.
[01:02:24]  But it says, even the selection of Ohio's senator JD Vance as Trump's running mate, campaign officials acknowledged was something of a luxury meant to run up the margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail biter, which is like, okay, you could see, I don't, I mean, Vance is, he's, he's new to the game.
[01:02:46]  Yeah.
[01:02:47]  You know, he comes from Silicon Valley, Yale, Oprah's book club, I think.
[01:02:54]  Something like that.
[01:02:54]  Maybe, maybe not.
[01:02:55]  That kind of shit.
[01:02:56]  But, you know, yeah.
[01:02:57]  20% off at borders.
[01:03:01]  But, you know, he just hasn't come up through the kind of like, he's not a Marco Rubio.
[01:03:07]  He's not a little Marco.
[01:03:08]  No, he's not.
[01:03:09]  Which that was such a he's not, he's not an expert.
[01:03:11]  I will say this, like, he does, he's not, he does not strike me as like an expert politician either.
[01:03:15]  No, but he just doesn't come from a kind of machine.
[01:03:18]  Yeah.
[01:03:18]  Right?
[01:03:18]  Like, he is a bit of an outsider.
[01:03:20]  He was a poster.
[01:03:20]  He was a blogger.
[01:03:22]  He was a writer, like you say, you know what I mean?
[01:03:24]  Like, he is a little bit of, so when they say, you know, that he's like a pick, like a signal to the base, I'm like, well, what base?
[01:03:32]  Because that's not the, like, the, what you would think of as the traditional kind of, you know, the evangelical base that makes up the civil society orgs or like the door knockers or the like the people that are the organizing the like get out the vote people or whatever.
[01:03:47]  Like that's not who JD Vance, I think, is.
[01:03:50]  Well, he doesn't speak to him.
[01:03:53]  He very clearly speaks the language of like one kind of person, gay neo-Nazis on Brooklyn.
[01:04:01]  Yes.
[01:04:01]  But like that's an insane choice to make strategically, I would think.
[01:04:06]  And again, we'll see how that plays out for the party.
[01:04:10]  Yeah.
[01:04:11]  And it seems like I'm like trying to be like, are they doing that because of Silicon Valley?
[01:04:16]  But I don't think they need Vance to shore that support up because it seems like it was already coming in prior to his pick.
[01:04:22]  Yeah.
[01:04:23]  And he's like makes these motions that like he likes Lena Kahn or whatever and like is in favor of regulation.
[01:04:29]  Who the fuck knows?
[01:04:31]  But yeah, it seems like that, I don't really get it.
[01:04:36]  I mean, maybe it's like he's a cons he's a dependable like hard right guy, but even Trump is kind of trying to distance himself from some of that now.

=== Pencil Neck Politician (08:37) ===

[01:04:44]  And so I just, I, yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
[01:04:47]  I mean, he is truly a humiliating figure.
[01:04:49]  And like when I look at him and when I hear him speak, I feel humiliated both for myself and for him.
[01:04:55]  I don't think he's got the juice.
[01:04:57]  He doesn't have the juice.
[01:04:58]  He really reminds me of Ron DeSanctimonius and Blake Masters.
[01:05:04]  Right down to the wrong DeSantis and Blake Masters, of course, although I know less.
[01:05:10]  He seems like he would be a stat, like Blake Masters doesn't understand.
[01:05:14]  You should be JD Vance's chief of staff.
[01:05:17]  You yourself are fucked up to look at.
[01:05:22]  And I say this as somebody who's kind of ugly.
[01:05:24]  No.
[01:05:25]  Well, listen, I get it.
[01:05:27]  You got your thing going on.
[01:05:28]  I got my thing going on, but I ain't great to look at.
[01:05:31]  Masters is unsettling.
[01:05:33]  There is like a pencil neck thing.
[01:05:35]  It's just, it's fucked.
[01:05:36]  It's a skull face.
[01:05:37]  But you, and he, he, he, he can't act normal.
[01:05:41]  But like, like, big thing that I think was wrong with DeSantis' campaign is like, do you remember when one of his fucking whack ass staffers got fired because he posted like one of those stupid 2016 alt-right style videos with like the black sun in it?
[01:05:57]  Yeah.
[01:05:57]  And like Nazis marching to DeSantis.
[01:05:59]  Yeah, because they're like going over campaign strategy in fucking Twitter group chats.
[01:06:03]  That's what Vance, like, that's a big similarity to me.
[01:06:07]  It's like, you know, 100% Vance's staff is like readers of whatever that fucking I am 1776 magazine or whatever.
[01:06:17]  It's like those kind of guys who view themselves, like they don't understand.
[01:06:21]  It's like, that is not what MAGA is.
[01:06:24]  Like MAGA is much more, I would say, like in touch with traditional conservative values than a lot of these guys are.
[01:06:31]  Well, I think that's not what they think MAGA is.
[01:06:34]  Well, they think it's being a gay Nazi.
[01:06:36]  Yeah.
[01:06:36]  And I think that like as the kind of vanguard of the GOP, and again, we'll talk about this a lot more in another episode, but I, you know, I do think that they are trying to push it that way.
[01:06:48]  And in a weird way, much like how some of the vanguardist left-wing energy in 2020 kind of killed a lot of Bernie Sanders stuff, Bernie Sanders' campaign.
[01:07:03]  I mean, remember the Bernie Sanders campaign to hire a bunch of people off Twitter?
[01:07:07]  Oh, yeah.
[01:07:08]  That was, I think we can all agree that perhaps in hindsight, not a great move, but was definitely nods to the quote-unquote base.
[01:07:17]  But again, the question is, what is that base?
[01:07:19]  Yeah.
[01:07:20]  And this is like giving that energy to me, where it's like the Vance, you know, the Vance choice is this signal, this like nod, nod, wink, wink to like an extremely online contingent that could potentially like break apart what actually that MAGA like MAGA coalition is.
[01:07:41]  Yeah, how it's worked for Trump.
[01:07:42]  JD Vance, frankly, might, as has been said before, scare the hoes.
[01:07:47]  I mean, I just don't know what coming out and being like, people who aren't married shouldn't vote or whatever the fuck he said is a fucking, like, stop being crazy.
[01:07:56]  You don't need to say shit like that.
[01:07:57]  We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made.
[01:08:07]  And so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.
[01:08:09]  But how the thing is that Trump is like a smart politician?
[01:08:13]  I don't see him seeing, like, he must be seeing that and being like, what the fuck?
[01:08:18]  Yeah.
[01:08:19]  Because rightly, the Democrats are just going, stop being weird, which is like a very great retort to that.
[01:08:28]  Just like, these guys are weird.
[01:08:30]  Yeah.
[01:08:31]  Kind of work.
[01:08:32]  I mean, it's like Trump, Trump's weirdness works for Trump.
[01:08:35]  Like, we don't know how it works, but it works.
[01:08:37]  You know, that's just, that's just how it is.
[01:08:39]  Everybody knows that.
[01:08:40]  But like, a guy like Vance, once you like put that, the spotlight on a guy like that, it's a kind of freaky sight.
[01:08:46]  Yeah.
[01:08:46]  You know, like he's a, he's just a weird guy.
[01:08:49]  Well, he also has no charisma.
[01:08:51]  Doesn't have a lot of charisma.
[01:08:52]  No.
[01:08:53]  Yeah.
[01:08:54]  How do you think he should get it?
[01:08:56]  I think he should call you.
[01:08:58]  I think I could change JD Vance's life in a fucking heartbeat.
[01:09:03]  I think I could, first of all, JD, you can't be named shit like that.
[01:09:07]  What does it stand for?
[01:09:09]  John Doe?
[01:09:10]  Justice Democrats.
[01:09:11]  Justice Democrats.
[01:09:12]  Jew death Vance.
[01:09:15]  Well, that's the other funny thing about, well, we'll get to this in a later episode, but like all the Nazis supporting Trump, it's like Jewish daughter, Jewish grandkid, JD Vance, interracial marriage.
[01:09:24]  They don't fucking know these people.
[01:09:25]  Jewish daughter Vance.
[01:09:27]  Jewish daughter Vance.
[01:09:28]  James David Vance.
[01:09:30]  Call yourself maybe Jaime Vance.
[01:09:32]  Jimmy Vance is fucking bad.
[01:09:34]  Jimmy Vance is like, I want you to sell me a fucking Cadillac.
[01:09:39]  If his name is Jimmy Vance, I would vote for him.
[01:09:41]  I would vote for him.
[01:09:42]  Jimmy Vance has crazy juice.
[01:09:45]  JD?
[01:09:46]  First of all, you can't be JD Vance and then go to law school.
[01:09:50]  Exactly.
[01:09:50]  What the fuck?
[01:09:51]  You can't be JD Vance JD.
[01:09:53]  Hey, what's up?
[01:09:53]  You're trying to bookend Vance?
[01:09:57]  Get the fuck out of here.
[01:09:58]  JD?
[01:09:59]  Get real.
[01:10:01]  I would do, what's that fucked up?
[01:10:03]  What's that thing that you inject in your neck and it makes your neck fat disappear?
[01:10:06]  Kybella.
[01:10:07]  Kybella.
[01:10:07]  It doesn't work that good.
[01:10:08]  Well, what?
[01:10:09]  I know.
[01:10:09]  I've seen that one crazy picture of this lady.
[01:10:14]  It went bad.
[01:10:15]  No, no, that was.
[01:10:16]  That was something else.
[01:10:17]  Okay.
[01:10:17]  No, that was different.
[01:10:19]  But he should get Kybella.
[01:10:21]  I think he should get.
[01:10:22]  It should lipo is better and way less invasive than you'd think.
[01:10:26]  I think he should leak a dick pic.
[01:10:28]  Ew.
[01:10:29]  I'm not saying that I want to see it, honey, but I want to see, I want other people to see it.
[01:10:34]  And he should want other people to see it.
[01:10:36]  Doesn't that be real?
[01:10:37]  Can be AI assisted, but I think it should be large and I think it should be with a crazy background.
[01:10:45]  Like maybe you see a bunch of bodies in the background there.
[01:10:48]  And so he's got a bit of a wild aquarium.
[01:10:53]  Yeah, an aquarium.
[01:10:54]  Maybe, and he's wearing, it's an open robe and there's a beer belly hanging down and there's just a, and it's soft and there's just a, and you hang it.
[01:11:03]  He's just hanging there.
[01:11:05]  And then I think he should apologize for that and then revoke his apology and say, actually, I have nothing to be ashamed of.
[01:11:10]  And then I think he should make his one political position that you can post your penis on Instagram.
[01:11:15]  I think that's what he should do.
[01:11:16]  And then I think he should kind of like he should he should because he was in the Marines too, but he's like Buddha Judge Marine, right?
[01:11:21]  Like he wasn't actually a soldier.
[01:11:23]  I don't fucking know.
[01:11:24]  He couldn't have been because we'd see pictures.
[01:11:26]  There's a reason we haven't seen many pictures of JD Vance in uniform.
[01:11:30]  I'll say that.
[01:11:30]  Because he was probably behind, I don't know, what was his job?
[01:11:33]  Mayor Pete was smart enough to get at least two or three photo ops.
[01:11:36]  I know.
[01:11:37]  And he was planning for the future.
[01:11:39]  That armor is tough.
[01:11:42]  You know, you don't want to be seen in armor like that.
[01:11:45]  Armor, I got to tell you this.
[01:11:47]  If you're in an army and you're wearing armor, you're a fucking pussy.
[01:11:50]  Unless it's like a full knight's.
[01:11:53]  Yeah, that's different.
[01:11:54]  That's cool.
[01:11:55]  But if you're in long-range combat.
[01:11:56]  How fucking funny would it be if he was like, I was in the Marines and then it was a photo of him in like a knight's armor?
[01:12:05]  But it's like in like Kandahar.
[01:12:07]  Let's be real.
[01:12:07]  He'd be a squire.
[01:12:08]  I know.
[01:12:09]  He wouldn't be a knight.
[01:12:09]  He'd be a footman at best.
[01:12:11]  I can't figure out from a cursory Google search what JD Vance did in the army, which means he did something kind of whack.
[01:12:18]  I will say this.
[01:12:19]  If at all.
[01:12:21]  He should associate himself more and more with psychotic online people who speak in like mean in-group language about like Jewish people or women or black people or Indians or whatever.
[01:12:35]  I think he should really take a cue from their book and do everything that they recommend.
[01:12:40]  I do think there is like tiny bit of a play here, which is that like there is a long-term need for the Republican Party to fill a kind of like bureaucratic talent bench.
[01:12:54]  Yeah.
[01:12:54]  Because it like genuinely doesn't have it.
[01:12:57]  Like those career guys, and I'm not talking about like, and I mean of a young age, like career guys.
[01:13:04]  And unfortunately, what it seems like is rather than it being just like your traditional, we know we hate compassionate conservative heritage, circa 2003 ghouls, we're going to soon have like Adrian Vermeuli, like insane dradcast.

=== Rfk Jr: The ProfileMismatch (16:18) ===

[01:13:22]  Yeah, yeah, almost certainly.
[01:13:24]  Nazi monarchist.
[01:13:25]  Yeah, well, it's just like how a lot of, I kind of think of it in the way that like there's all these like people who work for like like as Democratic congressional staffers who are like like woke and elected person.
[01:13:36]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:13:37]  They work for the Hitler government.
[01:13:40]  But they also like went to Georgetown Law and worked their way in.
[01:13:44]  And they read like Fanantan or whatever.
[01:13:46]  And it's, I think that's like the equivalent of like reading Fananten as they read like the Bronze Age pervert book.
[01:13:53]  Not compare those two, yeah.
[01:13:55]  Oh, fair enough.
[01:13:56]  Um, but uh, but like that, it's like that.
[01:13:59]  No, I know, I know, totally, totally.
[01:14:00]  So, like, I like, or like, yeah, or like, and I think a lot of that is a consequence of just like insane online people, yeah, to be completely honest with you.
[01:14:08]  Well, that's like, what's fucking crazy about this entire entire the gambit?
[01:14:13]  And I just, I don't know.
[01:14:15]  We'll see.
[01:14:17]  We'll see.
[01:14:30]  Time for our next segment.
[01:14:32]  Ow, my ear.
[01:14:33]  Oh, my ear.
[01:14:34]  I can't hear you anymore, bitch.
[01:14:37]  That's what he should do.
[01:14:39]  When he's debating Kamala, he should say, I can't hear you anymore because one of your fucking psycholiptides took a shot at me.
[01:14:47]  She should fucking go Tyson on it, bite the ear, and fucking finish the job.
[01:14:52]  He should take out a motherfucking gun and be like, Does this scare you?
[01:14:55]  Does this scare you?
[01:14:55]  Does this because of the Second Amendment?
[01:14:57]  Second Amendment.
[01:14:58]  It shouldn't.
[01:14:58]  This is constitutional.
[01:15:00]  Not loaded.
[01:15:01]  Is it?
[01:15:01]  Now it is.
[01:15:03]  Donald Trump got shot.
[01:15:09]  Liz, let me ask you this.
[01:15:11]  Wouldn't it have been fucking crazy to see Donald Trump's head blown open like a motherfucking Gallagher watermelon on TV?
[01:15:19]  Yeah.
[01:15:20]  That would have been fucking crazy.
[01:15:21]  Also, riddle me this.
[01:15:24]  Here's a good question.
[01:15:26]  Okay, don't ask me about the wooden doors in the gas chamber.
[01:15:29]  Do you think it's a terrible running joke?
[01:15:34]  I'm sorry, John.
[01:15:35]  Do you think that Mr. Potato Head, President Joseph Vett, Robinette, Biden?
[01:15:43]  Robin Ned Biden.
[01:15:44]  Do you think he would have dropped out if Trump fucking got his brains blown out?
[01:15:48]  No, I don't.
[01:15:49]  Which is crazy.
[01:15:50]  I don't think he would have.
[01:15:51]  Because they would have had the same level of brain activity.
[01:15:53]  Yes.
[01:15:54]  I think that by, I think Trump could still beat Biden if he was dead.
[01:15:58]  He's in a coma.
[01:15:59]  God, if Trump was in a coma, can you imagine him coastally like this?
[01:16:03]  I know me.
[01:16:04]  I know.
[01:16:05]  Me.
[01:16:06]  It's serious.
[01:16:08]  Because his fucking crazy looking wife.
[01:16:11]  Wait, but then also that would have been crazy if they're like, actually, you can run from a coma.
[01:16:15]  You can run from a coma.
[01:16:16]  You can.
[01:16:17]  You know what?
[01:16:17]  I would have supported that movement.
[01:16:19]  Absolutely.
[01:16:19]  I would vote for Trump.
[01:16:21]  I know we're undecided.
[01:16:22]  You haven't earned our votes yet.
[01:16:24]  I would vote for Trump if you had gotten actually shot in a real crazy way.
[01:16:29]  And he was in a coma or survived?
[01:16:31]  And was in a coma.
[01:16:33]  If he was in a coma, I would vote for him.
[01:16:34]  But isn't it crazy to think that if Trump died, Biden would still be running for president?
[01:16:38]  Yeah.
[01:16:39]  Which fucking just, I just, to me, the infrastructure bill changed my life.
[01:16:44]  I got about $2 billion because of a misplaced college.
[01:16:50]  A bridge.
[01:16:50]  Maybe.
[01:16:51]  I might have sold the Brooklyn Bridge to the Biden administration for a lot of fucking money, Liz.
[01:16:58]  But a smeagle-like gentleman crawled on top of a roof and took out an AR-15 assault rifle.
[01:17:07]  I don't even fucking remember this kid's name.
[01:17:09]  It's Thomas Crooks.
[01:17:11]  Mr. Crooks with the rifle on the roof.
[01:17:14]  He shimmied up there in full view of everybody while multiple people were doing the like, what's the roof?
[01:17:26]  And the police were like, oh, look at the suspicious guy on a roof.
[01:17:30]  But also, they were saying that like way before he even got on the roof.
[01:17:32]  Like an hour before.
[01:17:34]  And he took his little gun out and a cop was like, maybe I'll go check out what this guy with a gun's doing on the roof.
[01:17:41]  He climbs up the ladder, ding, And Thomas Crooks looks at him.
[01:17:46]  The cop says he pointed the gun at him.
[01:17:47]  I'd like to see the body cam footage.
[01:17:49]  Yeah, I don't know about that one.
[01:17:51]  And he goes, whoop!
[01:17:52]  He goes right down.
[01:17:53]  And then the guy.
[01:17:54]  And then he probably like fell like, oh, like behind, but his butt just like the fuck.
[01:18:00]  Here's what you fucking do in that situation.
[01:18:02]  You take out that motherfucking, that gun you got in your little belt and you just fucking blindfire over that motherfucker.
[01:18:08]  That's a fucking Uvalde situation.
[01:18:12]  Do you know how it is?
[01:18:13]  I'll say this.
[01:18:14]  As somebody who's been in a combat style situation, you're not supposed to blindfire, but it probably feels really fucking cool to do.
[01:18:21]  You know, just like, not look.
[01:18:24]  Who knows?
[01:18:25]  But because this is the story, because the cop saw him, Thomas Crook beat it down and then took like eight shots at Trump.
[01:18:36]  One of the first shots hit Trump in the ear.
[01:18:38]  Maybe it's contested.
[01:18:40]  It's contested.
[01:18:40]  There was FBI testimony from yesterday that I was very happy to see, which was like, we are unsure if it was a bullet or shrapnel which hit President Trump because there were reports initially that were dropped almost immediately.
[01:18:55]  And I think it was because it didn't look as valiant, that Mr. Crooks hit one of the glass teleprompters and the glass ricochet, and that's what hit Trump in the ear.
[01:19:10]  Yeah.
[01:19:10]  Yeah.
[01:19:10]  Cut him rather than.
[01:19:12]  But then there was like, you saw the teleprompters and they weren't shattered.
[01:19:15]  So I think people were like, kind of dropped that.
[01:19:16]  There was a Snopes saying that.
[01:19:18]  Yeah.
[01:19:18]  And like the, the, but I'm like, yeah, I can't really tell because I'm like, did the bullet hit him?
[01:19:25]  Maybe.
[01:19:25]  I'm just saying the FBI is leaving it wide open for me to fill in the blanks.
[01:19:31]  Well, the kid gets smoked right away, which is funny because like they could obviously, what are they looking at through those scopes then?
[01:19:37]  I think they were looking at him.
[01:19:38]  They were just looking at him like, oh, maybe he's watching.
[01:19:42]  We're watching.
[01:19:42]  Maybe he's just joking.
[01:19:45]  And they kill him.
[01:19:47]  And immediately, well, it can't really be immediately for me because I was kind of in the woods.
[01:19:55]  But as soon as I saw the reaction on the internet, it was a lot of theories floating around from Democrats and Republicans alike.
[01:20:06]  Although the Democrat ones seem to have kind of tamped down at this point because it seems a little ridiculous.
[01:20:11]  The main difference was there.
[01:20:12]  I was like, oh, he's faking.
[01:20:13]  He's faking it.
[01:20:13]  staged and i gotta tell you obviously anybody who knows even a little bit just about how wind or bullets or any it's really just i don't think you just look around common sense You can't really around that.
[01:20:25]  But also like, can you, knowing anything about Donald Trump, do you actually see him being like yes, let's see, i'll take my chances, try to shoot me in the ear?
[01:20:34]  And people are like people point this out as scared of Joseph Biden, the fact that he looked cool and went like fight fight, fight.
[01:20:40]  But like Donald Trump has, he's a showman, you know, like he knows show biz.
[01:20:44]  I mean the, I mean everyone can agree about his incredible instincts.
[01:20:50]  Exactly, the man knows his angles, he knows his motherfucking angles and he did, he did it.
[01:20:54]  He yeah, like that seems like a no-brainer that he would.
[01:20:57]  And he knows his angles so well he knew a Neo Matrix style, move the head to dodge the bullet.
[01:21:04]  That's what we should get is an edit of Donald Trump doing the Neo.
[01:21:07]  That's what they should have put out here, fucking right wing.
[01:21:11]  Oh no actually unfortunately, they did put the Elon Musk did tweet a AI Assisted video of like the Democrats, I believe shooting at Trump and him ducking in the matrix scene where Neo does that.
[01:21:25]  See, i'm right there, I understand the mind of the man um but uh, but that that was kind of squashed down.
[01:21:31]  And then there was all these other kind of conspiracy theories uh, that came out at first and that now they've sort of morphed into other things.
[01:21:38]  Um that the, what was it?
[01:21:41]  It was a a an, it a, like an Anti-trump protester named Something, Yurick I I don't remember the name, but it's not important because he didn't do it.
[01:21:50]  Uh, that it was this guy named.
[01:21:51]  I think it was like Maxwell Yurick.
[01:21:53]  That was like a real quick 4chan hit that I think got got uh, some play from Roger Stone yes, and like I still sort of see it spread among like, Laura Loomer types.
[01:22:06]  Speaking of all these people I forgot to mention when we're talking about Jd Vance I just want to really bring it up real quick about Jimmy Vance, he blurbed.
[01:22:13]  You're going to love this.
[01:22:14]  He blurbed a pesobiac book.
[01:22:16]  Sick.
[01:22:16]  So it's like the new Pesobiac book that is called Unhuman.
[01:22:21]  I think so.
[01:22:22]  The History of Revolutions.
[01:22:23]  Yes.
[01:22:24]  Actually, I got that to prepare for a future episode.
[01:22:27]  And I have been reading it.
[01:22:28]  And it is actually, I don't say this.
[01:22:30]  I've read a lot.
[01:22:31]  I've read right-wing books.
[01:22:32]  I've read whatever.
[01:22:34]  I have, it is one of the worst books I've ever read.
[01:22:37]  It is fucking horrible.
[01:22:38]  Like unreadable?
[01:22:40]  It's genuinely like it's difficult to read.
[01:22:43]  And like, it's not, I've read like stupid modern right-wing guy books before.
[01:22:48]  This is the worst of all of them.
[01:22:50]  Somehow, I don't know what it is, but like, I would say that it is, it feels very like it was not ghostwritten by a human, but maybe AI.
[01:22:59]  But it does, it feels less than AI could do.
[01:23:02]  Like he could have, AI would have helped.
[01:23:04]  It's fucking horrible.
[01:23:06]  But that makes sense.
[01:23:07]  Jack Pesobiac, also.
[01:23:09]  What a cocksucker.
[01:23:11]  The fucking, there was all these theories that like that he did it.
[01:23:16]  That like there was this like the anti-Trump guy did it.
[01:23:19]  And then there was like these theories that like he was set up by the CIA.
[01:23:24]  I don't really know why the CIA would use like this kid to do it.
[01:23:28]  You think you want to use like a disgruntled veteran?
[01:23:30]  Well, I love how people are like comparing him to Oswald because obviously that's the one they're like, oh, President, even though there were like a bunch of attempts between that.
[01:23:43]  But like as we detailed on our many, many, many episodes about the JFK assassination, there was a lot of and a very interesting and confusing and damning paper trail on Oswald.
[01:23:59]  And this kid has not a he's a fucking kid.
[01:24:02]  Yeah.
[01:24:03]  He is like, there's like nothing out there on him.
[01:24:06]  And he's, he's, I'm going to say this.
[01:24:09]  He's ugly.
[01:24:11]  I just want to get that out of the way.
[01:24:12]  He looks fucked up.
[01:24:13]  His face is gross.
[01:24:14]  This is probably the kind of language that got him to shoot at a president, but he's dead and can't hear this.
[01:24:19]  Although, hopefully they have podcasts in whichever one you ended up in.
[01:24:24]  But he seems, I think the thing that stuck out to me the most is from what little we know about him so far is he seems to fit the profile more of a mass shooter, like a school shooter in particular, than a presidential assassin.
[01:24:38]  Yeah, totally.
[01:24:38]  I mean, granted, like Oswald is, if you take the story at face value, I'm just, I'm saying that, which obviously, as the ouvoir of this podcast has shown, is that the right word to use there?
[01:24:49]  Oeuvre.
[01:24:51]  But is it the right word to use?
[01:24:52]  Yes.
[01:24:52]  The Uber of this podcast, the breadth of work this podcast has shown, we do not take that at face value.
[01:24:57]  But like similar to what, you know, RFK Jr., our candidate of potentially choice, since we are undecided.
[01:25:04]  Yes.
[01:25:05]  Is one of the choices.
[01:25:06]  I forgot about him.
[01:25:07]  Yeah.
[01:25:07]  We definitely agree with him that like He's the only candidate who might put Shmooli in the White House.
[01:25:13]  Shmuley in the White House.
[01:25:14]  Smoothly in the White House could be crazy.
[01:25:16]  That would be such a great TV show for him.
[01:25:18]  I forgot his VP fucked Elon Musk.
[01:25:21]  Sorry, what?
[01:25:22]  Yeah, RFK's VP used to have sex with Elon Musk.
[01:25:25]  Who's the VP?
[01:25:27]  Some fucking lady.
[01:25:28]  What's her name?
[01:25:29]  RFK Jr.
[01:25:30]  I'm just looking at this.
[01:25:31]  This is how the meat is encased in sausage.
[01:25:35]  RFK Jr. running mate.
[01:25:38]  Her name is Nicole Shanahan.
[01:25:40]  For some reason, I'm like, it's so crazy you have a running mate, but I guess he's really trying to run for president.
[01:25:45]  Did you see that he said he was going to open up farms for addicts?
[01:25:49]  She's kind of East Meets West.
[01:25:50]  What?
[01:25:51]  He was going to open up farms.
[01:25:53]  Farms for addicts?
[01:25:54]  Or not maybe it was addicts, but also people with mental disorders.
[01:25:58]  He's opening funny farms.
[01:26:00]  But they're organic, funny farms.
[01:26:02]  And so you go and like farm organic vegetables and presumably learn about the land to get well.
[01:26:10]  Yeah, that could work.
[01:26:11]  They did that in a scanner darkly.
[01:26:13]  Yeah, well, that's classic, of course, at Scanner Darkly.
[01:26:15]  But I'm like, well, they're actually, it's drugs they're doing there or they're making there.
[01:26:19]  But I'm like, for him, maybe it's drugs.
[01:26:25]  It caures you of polio vaccine or whatever the fuck he's talking about.
[01:26:29]  Did I say this in the show?
[01:26:30]  That someone else told me that he got like that because he was so like, he was so anxious that he got crazy acid reflux and that melted his throat and they put a titanium throat in.
[01:26:39]  Fuck, what if that is what your dissociative daydream was about?
[01:26:43]  Fuck, whatever it was.
[01:26:45]  We're getting somewhere.
[01:26:46]  This is an RFK Jr.
[01:26:47]  You know what this is?
[01:26:48]  This is called the work.
[01:26:49]  It's called the work and we're doing it.
[01:26:51]  But Trump gets Trump gets whisked off that stage by a woman.
[01:26:58]  I'm going to say it.
[01:26:59]  And I'm not afraid to say it.
[01:27:00]  He got taken off stage by a woman.
[01:27:03]  And granted.
[01:27:05]  Who hasn't been there?
[01:27:07]  Who hasn't been there?
[01:27:08]  Yeah.
[01:27:09]  Who hasn't had a woman make them leave something that they usually with a cane?
[01:27:12]  Yeah.
[01:27:14]  There was much hay made in the moments after in the weeks, and I guess we're still weeks after his assassination attempt of should women be secret service agents.
[01:27:24]  There is a really funny picture of one of the women secret service agents behind him kind of ducking behind him.
[01:27:31]  It's like, well, you know, I would reflexively duck behind the fattest guy there, too.
[01:27:36]  Are you kidding me?
[01:27:37]  Yeah, I think that maybe at that point, maybe you shouldn't be a secret service agent.
[01:27:41]  Yeah.
[01:27:42]  Just because of the certain demands, but I don't think that that is reducible to gender because, as you said, you would duck.
[01:27:48]  I would duck.
[01:27:49]  Well, I'll say this.
[01:27:51]  I am not going to spend the last precious seconds of my life hugging a guy to protect him.
[01:27:59]  Well, first of all, I think that's very valiant.
[01:28:01]  Major.
[01:28:02]  Depending on who the guy is.
[01:28:04]  Very valiant.
[01:28:05]  Donald, could you imagine?
[01:28:06]  That's the thing.
[01:28:07]  You signed up to protect Donald.
[01:28:09]  I mean, come on.
[01:28:09]  Could you, or no, you just signed out to protect whoever.
[01:28:13]  That's what's so lame about it.
[01:28:14]  You're not even like a Praetorian guard of like, I support Donald Trump.
[01:28:18]  You're like, I just want to help the president not get shot.
[01:28:22]  What the fuck is wrong with you?
[01:28:23]  No.
[01:28:25]  You would die for just the president?
[01:28:29]  What's going on in there?
[01:28:30]  I don't really understand the mind of the signal.
[01:28:31]  Your last second of your life, Liz, is like is starfishing like your body in front of Joe Biden's hunched form as like some like foaming at the mouth motherfucker.
[01:28:42]  It's like takes a shot at the 30.
[01:28:44]  Joe Biden is like visibly already dying.
[01:28:46]  Joe Biden's looking like you literally cannot save him from the like sands of time.
[01:28:51]  Joe Biden knows God because he's like been making arrangements for he's literally like half in, half out of the light.
[01:28:58]  Yes.
[01:28:58]  And your last seconds as the light, like you see the gun and you hear the bang, you think of your children and you die protecting the president.
[01:29:09]  The oldest man.
[01:29:10]  Get real.
[01:29:12]  Who is already dead and there's a body double?
[01:29:14]  You're protecting a child, another random person on the bus, anybody else?
[01:29:18]  Valiant, noble, brave.
[01:29:20]  You're protecting the president for money?
[01:29:23]  You're crazy.
[01:29:25]  Secret service should not be paid.
[01:29:27]  I think it should be a job.
[01:29:28]  I think it should be a volunteer position.
[01:29:30]  It should be unpaid.
[01:29:31]  I think you should be unpaid because you get people like this who don't really mean it.
[01:29:35]  But Cheadle, who is the, I think her name is Kimberly Cheadle.

=== Porn Site Demolition Ranch (04:35) ===

[01:29:41]  I didn't write it down, but you know, that's the mind of a genius here.
[01:29:44]  She is the head of the Secret Service.
[01:29:46]  She resigned kind of belatedly.
[01:29:49]  Well, because Biden was too dead to demand it.
[01:29:51]  How are you not getting fired for the year?
[01:29:53]  You have genuinely, except for counterfeit money, one job.
[01:29:57]  Okay, you could tweet out a fucking resignation letter, but you can't tweet out like you fired.
[01:30:02]  You're fired.
[01:30:03]  You're fired.
[01:30:03]  Just do the you fired.
[01:30:04]  You're fired.
[01:30:05]  You're fired.
[01:30:06]  He couldn't do it.
[01:30:07]  He couldn't fucking do anything because he's dead as a dog.
[01:30:08]  And she'll kill again.
[01:30:11]  I have a firm belief she'll kill again.
[01:30:12]  But it's been wild to watch the sort of after effects of this because this guy is such a nothing figure, this Thomas Crooks character.
[01:30:20]  He's such a nothing figure.
[01:30:21]  He's such a ghost that there's actually nothing to really hang on him yet.
[01:30:25]  I mean, sure, we'll find out more.
[01:30:26]  We've already had dribs and drabs of information.
[01:30:28]  Like the last thing you looked at was a porn site.
[01:30:31]  So what?
[01:30:32]  What porn site?
[01:30:33]  That he googled how far was Oswald from Kennedy.
[01:30:37]  Much crazier shot.
[01:30:38]  You could never.
[01:30:39]  Yeah.
[01:30:39]  Literally, you didn't even this time.
[01:30:41]  You didn't this time and you could never moving.
[01:30:44]  You couldn't even hit a guy stationary.
[01:30:45]  To be fair, there were other shots.
[01:30:47]  True, yeah.
[01:30:48]  Well, again, at face value.
[01:30:51]  It also shows the simple mind of the kid.
[01:30:53]  That he just thought it was just like ridiculous.
[01:30:55]  He should have a guy on the grassroots.
[01:30:57]  How do you get a metric bullet?
[01:31:00]  How do you get a guy to shoot him from another angle?
[01:31:02]  It's like, okay, well, maybe you should have Googled a little, maybe you should listen to this podcast.
[01:31:05]  I'm so glad you didn't listen to this podcast.
[01:31:08]  I texted them this as part of the almost tweeted it, which would be.
[01:31:11]  Did you tweet?
[01:31:12]  I think I did tweet it.
[01:31:13]  But I was like, you're on ice.
[01:31:15]  I'll say this.
[01:31:16]  Peek behind the curtain, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:31:18]  If you do a mildly popular, sometimes political podcast and something like this happens, you gotta cross them fucking fingers that this guy was not a listener.
[01:31:29]  Yeah.
[01:31:30]  Because that's not, you don't want that on the Wikipedia.
[01:31:31]  So if you're listening, don't do anything crazy.
[01:31:34]  Please.
[01:31:34]  We're saying this right now.
[01:31:36]  If you lose this podcast, don't do anything that would make me look bad.
[01:31:40]  No, not, well, that's nice, but I'm saying like, you know, there's no reason to do anything fucking crazy, okay?
[01:31:47]  It's not.
[01:31:47]  Not yet.
[01:31:49]  But when I give the order, I need you to be.
[01:31:52]  When Brays gives the signal, which he will let you know through that one specific way, he can communicate with only you.
[01:31:57]  Through that high-pitched dog noise I put in here sometimes in post-production, you will know and you know what to do already, obviously.
[01:32:05]  You already know what to do because we've told you through secret messages only you're able to comprehend.
[01:32:10]  But this guy, the only thing we saw at first was he was wearing a YouTube shirt for Demolition Ranch, which is a like right-wing in a very vague, vague, vague sense, like culturally, I guess, right-wing, very popular gun channel.
[01:32:24]  But I will say, gun YouTube, Liz, I know you're not familiar with it.
[01:32:29]  It's broadly very right, like very right-wing, kind of like MAGA style.
[01:32:33]  I would think.
[01:32:34]  But it is somehow, I don't know how to describe it exactly, but it is kind of that epic bacon Reddit style of right-wing that it's like very corny.
[01:32:44]  Is it perhaps giving Ron Paul Paul Ralph?
[01:32:50]  Like, remember the like Texan, the energy, the internet energy in Texas around the Ron Paul Revolution?
[01:32:58]  Yes.
[01:32:58]  I would say it's in that lineage.
[01:33:00]  It's in that lineage for sure.
[01:33:01]  We are still living in the shadow of 2014, by the way.
[01:33:05]  Yeah.
[01:33:05]  And we need it to end.
[01:33:07]  Yes.
[01:33:07]  Well, these, he, he was wearing a shirt from this guy, Demolition Ranch, who's like, let me shoot a thing with like a platinum desert eagle or whatever.
[01:33:17]  The only gun YouTuber that I watch is this guy, Hickok45, who I think is really good.
[01:33:23]  Everyone else gives me the willies because it's also, I'm not going to be watching YouTubers.
[01:33:27]  I'm just watching Hoops Hype videos.
[01:33:28]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:33:29]  I've watched this specific old man.
[01:33:31]  I want to see shooters.
[01:33:32]  Shoot.
[01:33:32]  Okay.
[01:33:33]  Yeah.
[01:33:33]  Well.
[01:33:33]  Come on.
[01:33:34]  I had to do the second one because you didn't get the right thing.
[01:33:37]  It was best.
[01:33:38]  But that was kind of the only thing we had to go on.
[01:33:39]  And then it's like, come out.
[01:33:41]  Again, this is the FBI saying this shit.
[01:33:43]  So who the fuck knows?
[01:33:44]  But they're like, he was like looking up the royal family.
[01:33:47]  He was looking up when the DNC was.
[01:33:49]  He was looking up all these things.
[01:33:50]  But then it seemed like just like Trump was kind of coming to his town and he took a shot at him.
[01:33:55]  And the fact of the matter is, that sounds completely unbelievable.
[01:33:58]  Who fucking knows?
[01:33:59]  We don't know anything else.
[01:34:01]  Like there's nothing to base any theories off of, which I think is driving a lot of people crazy.
[01:34:07]  They're sort of like scratching the walls.
[01:34:09]  You pointed out to me yesterday that Heritage Foundation like investigation about it.
[01:34:14]  That's just like, what the fuck is it saying?

=== Undecided Voters' Dilemma (08:38) ===

[01:34:16]  Yeah, nothing.
[01:34:17]  I mean, it was like, oh, we geolocated all of these people.
[01:34:20]  And maybe he was meeting with FBI agents because there's like in this vicinity.
[01:34:23]  And it was like of the fucking like where the Washington Wizards play.
[01:34:27]  And you're like, what?
[01:34:28]  Yeah.
[01:34:28]  I mean, it makes no sense.
[01:34:31]  Yeah, I think that like, I think your point about the school shooter is like kind of interesting.
[01:34:38]  I think there is a sort of, I'm trying to like get my mind, get, get in the mind of that, which is very difficult and inaccessible to me.
[01:34:46]  But I you're a loser.
[01:34:47]  You're goth.
[01:34:48]  You play too many computer games.
[01:34:49]  No, but I think that like if you're looking for there is a sense of like, if you are extremely troubled and looking for like a blaze of glory and to go out, like in a way, I don't, I don't,
[01:35:04]  this sounds so fucked up, but it's like school shootings have become over the past 20, 20 years or whatever, like so normalized and like everyday occurrences that there's a kind of banality to them that I could see it not being, or not feeling like a sufficiently insane thing to do.
[01:35:24]  Whereas like obviously shooting the president would even as a suicide mission or especially as a suicide mission would like form, you know, would like, you know, put you in the history books in a way that like there can never be another columbine because there's too many other columbines.
[01:35:43]  Yeah.
[01:35:43]  Yeah.
[01:35:44]  which is a fucking insane thing to think about as i'm saying that out loud i feel like now we need a jd vance poem And I'm not going to ask you to do this on the spot because I do actually want you to put your heart and soul into it.
[01:36:13]  But I think for when we do the episode that we're going to do coming up, I think that that's a little homework for you.
[01:36:20]  Okay.
[01:36:20]  Maybe we could collab on it.
[01:36:21]  Okay.
[01:36:22]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:36:23]  Which I would like.
[01:36:23]  A little remix.
[01:36:24]  A little woman's touch, which he wouldn't like.
[01:36:27]  He would not.
[01:36:29]  Well, it's what's crazy to me is like I just don't mean I just don't understand how this works.
[01:36:36]  He converted to Catholicism as an adult.
[01:36:39]  He was a Ross Dutho.
[01:36:41]  He was some other shooter.
[01:36:41]  One of his evangelical before?
[01:36:43]  I think he was evangelical, but I don't have that in front of me.
[01:36:46]  I doubt he believed in God.
[01:36:47]  I feel like he's politically Catholic, but taking him at his word, he's Catholic.
[01:36:52]  His wife is Hindu.
[01:36:55]  Okay.
[01:36:56]  As I looked up.
[01:36:57]  Okay, I don't know, but sure.
[01:36:58]  I tried to.
[01:36:59]  She is.
[01:37:01]  Don't you think she's going to hell forever?
[01:37:05]  You know what?
[01:37:06]  I think that if we, this is what I'm saying.
[01:37:08]  I think that we should moderate the debates because we are undecided voters and I think we would actually ask questions that people of our mind, undecided voters of America, who are perhaps as we're the last two.
[01:37:25]  No, there's some left and we speak for them.
[01:37:28]  We speak for them.
[01:37:29]  There are people.
[01:37:30]  We speak for the wafflers.
[01:37:31]  Yes.
[01:37:31]  We don't know yet.
[01:37:32]  We don't know yet.
[01:37:33]  We like both sides, maybe, or I don't know.
[01:37:36]  I don't know if they're like both sides.
[01:37:38]  But, you know, both have some points.
[01:37:39]  But I don't know if I agree with those points.
[01:37:41]  But I'm saying if they, this is what I'm saying.
[01:37:44]  Truanon is inviting officially, we are inviting Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, JD Vance, in a separate event, and to be determined VP pick, which, by the way, is going to be announced like this week.
[01:38:02]  Yeah.
[01:38:02]  Because they're doing the like virtual roll call.
[01:38:05]  They're like fucking nominating her like this weekend on Zoom, which is so fucking crazy.
[01:38:12]  This is my fight, song.
[01:38:14]  I hope they, there's good, they got to do another, we need a new fight song.
[01:38:17]  We need a new theme.
[01:38:17]  We need a new theme.
[01:38:19]  But we will host them.
[01:38:22]  Oh, I would love to.
[01:38:24]  We got a pretty good studio now.
[01:38:26]  Yes.
[01:38:27]  And I don't even think we'd record it.
[01:38:29]  It's just for our benefit.
[01:38:30]  I just want to know.
[01:38:31]  It's for our benefit, and then we'll let everyone listening know what they said.
[01:38:35]  We just want to know.
[01:38:36]  But I think that your questions about whether or not JD Vance believes his wife will go to hell because of her Hindu religion.
[01:38:44]  Yeah.
[01:38:44]  That's an excellent question.
[01:38:46]  Well, I also want to know is, is, you know, Doug Amhoff, presumably, he's circumcised, right?
[01:38:51]  When he was a child, they cut the little foreskin off, maybe did a and spit it in the bowl.
[01:39:01]  And then, of course, you make a necklace out of it like a Vietnam veteran.
[01:39:04]  And it's, it's, I want to know if he believes in that.
[01:39:10]  What do you mean?
[01:39:10]  Oh, you want to know if he's pro or anything?
[01:39:12]  Because do you remember?
[01:39:13]  I think we talked about this show.
[01:39:13]  Do you remember when I changed my mind on circumcision pretty recently?
[01:39:16]  Because I'd always been like, I don't care.
[01:39:18]  And I feel like people who are really anti-circumcision got a weird bone to pick with religions.
[01:39:23]  But then I read that article.
[01:39:26]  I was there.
[01:39:27]  You were there when I read that.
[01:39:29]  I don't remember that.
[01:39:32]  This was like a couple months ago at the John Early thing.
[01:39:37]  Oh, I do remember.
[01:39:38]  And I was shown this article.
[01:39:40]  That was like some, I can't remember.
[01:39:41]  He's like kind of a famous writer.
[01:39:42]  You were persuaded, which shows how.
[01:39:44]  I'm a persuadable voter.
[01:39:46]  Which is how open we are as undecided voters.
[01:39:48]  That article was so.
[01:39:49]  I can't remember.
[01:39:49]  It wasn't just the article, though.
[01:39:50]  It was also the messenger that was arguing and using the article as evidence in their argument.
[01:39:59]  Yes.
[01:40:00]  It was difficult for me to argue with women.
[01:40:01]  It was difficult for me to argue with women.
[01:40:03]  And I.
[01:40:05]  But we don't have to gender it.
[01:40:06]  Well, it is.
[01:40:07]  It's easy for me to argue with men because you know what I mean.
[01:40:08]  Do you argue with me?
[01:40:09]  Because they'll be like, I'm sexist.
[01:40:10]  I'm like, don't fucking be that.
[01:40:12]  But when a woman's like, I think men should be sexist, I'm like, I don't fucking, well, I can't comprehend.
[01:40:17]  But I read that fucking article.
[01:40:18]  I'm sure someone will figure it out, but it's an article by some kind of famous writer who's nothing else I've read by him ever.
[01:40:24]  But about a fucking circumstance, botched circumcision coming back to haunt him.
[01:40:29]  And when I read that, I was like, no one should have to go through this.
[01:40:32]  It was so excruciating in detail that I'm like, I cannot no longer rock with this.
[01:40:39]  And so I want to know Kamala Harris.
[01:40:43]  I want to see her read that article and be like, so ask your husband, what's up?
[01:40:48]  I just want to ask everybody about what's going on with their husbands and wives.
[01:40:51]  Yeah.
[01:40:51]  And things of that nature.
[01:40:52]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:40:53]  And you know what?
[01:40:54]  I think that that is like relevant information.
[01:40:59]  At least for me, as an undecided voter.
[01:41:01]  As an undecided voter.
[01:41:03]  Well, let's wrap this up.
[01:41:06]  My name is.
[01:41:13]  Come on to the donkey.
[01:41:15]  Brace Belden.
[01:41:16]  Hey, him.
[01:41:17]  Wait, no.
[01:41:18]  Hey, my name is Brace Belden.
[01:41:23]  It's so awful.
[01:41:24]  It's pretty good, though.
[01:41:25]  So putting it on.
[01:41:27]  I'm going to put you in a donkey mascot costume while you do it and actually make you the gender donkey.
[01:41:32]  And you know what?
[01:41:33]  I'll say this.
[01:41:35]  Last night I was at this show with, they're my friends, but they're really more Liz's friends.
[01:41:39]  That's right.
[01:41:40]  And I was like, shout out to them, by the way.
[01:41:43]  Shout out to them.
[01:41:44]  They're not listening.
[01:41:44]  They got better things new because they're my friends.
[01:41:46]  They are.
[01:41:46]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:41:48]  But my friends listen.
[01:41:50]  Well, fuck them.
[01:41:51]  No, they don't.
[01:41:52]  And I showed them it too, and they liked it.
[01:41:58]  It's a very big Halloween this year.
[01:42:00]  Gender donkey?
[01:42:01]  Gender donkey.
[01:42:02]  I think we should get one.
[01:42:03]  We could sell it.
[01:42:04]  The gender donkey.
[01:42:05]  Sort of like the Greta anti-Semitic octopus.
[01:42:09]  But we'll do a gender donkey.
[01:42:11]  We should do a and when you squeeze it, it goes, hey, him.
[01:42:13]  Hey, him.
[01:42:14]  Or like a children's pin the gender on the donkey.
[01:42:16]  Yeah.
[01:42:19]  Well, what's your name?
[01:42:20]  Oh, it's Liz.
[01:42:21]  And what's your pronouns?
[01:42:24]  What are they?
[01:42:25]  I don't know.
[01:42:26]  She tell me.
[01:42:26]  She, her.
[01:42:27]  No, no, no, no.
[01:42:29]  What's your pronouns?
[01:42:30]  What's your fucking pronouns?
[01:42:32]  You know, could I tell you?
[01:42:34]  No one has ever asked me to say my pronouns.
[01:42:36]  I don't think I've ever seen them.
[01:42:37]  Because you wear the name tag with them on it.
[01:42:41]  She, her.
[01:42:42]  She her.
[01:42:43]  I don't want to do it.
[01:42:45]  And we're, of course, joined by young Chomsky.
[01:42:47]  He they.
[01:42:50]  And the podcast is called Call True and On.
[01:42:52]  There we go.
[01:42:53]  We'll see you next time.
[01:42:54]  Bye-bye.