True Anon Truth Feed - [PREVIEW] Episode 393: Lawyers, Guns, and Tummies: Tribal Thumb Pt. 2
Aired: 2024-07-19
Duration: 04:57


=== Hello, Truanon (01:33) ===

[00:00:00]  The good thing is you just wave a gun and they empty the register.
[00:00:03]  You're gonna have a beauty parlour.
[00:00:05]  What's the matter with you?
[00:00:07]  All thinking like white people.
[00:00:09]  Don't need hundreds, need thousands.
[00:00:12]  We're going to a bakery.
[00:00:13]  Don't believe it.
[00:00:15]  That's so brilliant.
[00:00:17]  Yeah, we are also fucking chicken shit, bourgeois.
[00:00:21]  I wish I was black.
[00:00:23]  I mean, I just wish I was fucking black.
[00:00:50]  Hello, everyone.
[00:00:51]  I'm Liz.
[00:00:52]  My name is Brace.
[00:00:53]  We're, of course, joined by producer Young Chomsky, and the podcast is called Truanon.
[00:00:58]  Hello.
[00:00:58]  Hello.
[00:01:00]  I like it when we say it at the same time.
[00:01:02]  Do you like this?
[00:01:03]  Jinx?
[00:01:04]  Oh, I didn't say it.
[00:01:06]  We didn't say what?
[00:01:07]  I didn't say jinx at the same time you said jinx.
[00:01:10]  That's not how jinx works.
[00:01:11]  I know, but I thought you were saying, like, do you like this?
[00:01:14]  And then we were going to say it at the same time.
[00:01:15]  No, I'm jinxing you.
[00:01:16]  Stop talking.
[00:01:17]  No.
[00:01:18]  You're jinxed.
[00:01:19]  I don't care.
[00:01:20]  I don't fucking follow your voice.
[00:01:21]  Yes, you can't do this.
[00:01:23]  I do what I want.
[00:01:24]  This is.
[00:01:26]  Okay.
[00:01:26]  All right.
[00:01:27]  This is a fucking problem.
[00:01:29]  Okay, everyone.
[00:01:30]  We have the second episode.

=== Tribal Thumb Experiments (03:23) ===

[00:01:33]  Part two.
[00:01:34]  Part two in our three-part series here about Tribal Thumb, a name that I hate saying.
[00:01:40]  It does seem like Tribal Thumb is.
[00:01:43]  It's like something you see at the Glastonbury Music Festival in 1995.
[00:01:48]  You know, like Fat Boy Slim and Tribal Thumb.
[00:01:51]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:01:52]  I'm surprised Tribal Thumb wasn't playing at the fucking Manic Street Preachers and Tribal Thumb.
[00:01:59]  Oh my God, what was it?
[00:02:00]  What was the festival's name called?
[00:02:02]  Nova?
[00:02:04]  Tribal Thumb at the Nova Festival.
[00:02:06]  That is actually, you know, that sounds right.
[00:02:08]  That's true.
[00:02:08]  That does sound right.
[00:02:10]  We have with us today Matt and Matt from Left in the Bay once again, and we are talking, well, we're talking about the SLA.
[00:02:19]  SLA.
[00:02:20]  And let's start this bad boy off.
[00:02:36]  Okay, so yeah, Jessica Mitford publishes this expose in The Atlantic in 73.
[00:02:43]  Talks about the California medical facility, says over the past 10 years, a brisk traffic in human subjects for drug company experimentation has grown up in this facility, a prison specifically designed for men deemed by the authorities to be in need of psychiatric treatment.
[00:03:00]  That's true at that time, but it quickly becomes in the mid-60s a place where a lot of radicals are sent and processed and transferred.
[00:03:09]  If you read like Huey Newton's Revolutionary Suicide, he talks about getting sent to Vacaville first.
[00:03:18]  It's like where a lot of these black radicals are sent.
[00:03:21]  Usually they're only there for like 60 to 90 days.
[00:03:26]  The really crazy thing to note about the figure at the heart of the SLA story that we'll talk about, Donald DeFries, is he's there for two years.
[00:03:34]  Yeah, almost two years.
[00:03:35]  Which is like longer than pretty much anyone ever spends there around that time.
[00:03:43]  But the facility is like a way station between going to San Quentin, sold Ed Folsom.
[00:03:50]  A lot of people just go through, like Huey Newton talks about it and says that he just gets like rigorously tested in all these kinds of ways.
[00:04:00]  And then they're sent off in like 20 days.
[00:04:03]  But there's all kinds of like weird experimentation going on there.
[00:04:09]  Some that are like legal within the framework of the prison system and many that are illegal.
[00:04:16]  And so like chaos program money from the CIA flows into Vacaville.
[00:04:24]  There's also like MKUltra experimentation going on there.
[00:04:27]  And what's the later one, like MK Search or something?
[00:04:30]  I think, yeah, I think it's MK Search.
[00:04:33]  There's all kinds of fucked up, crazy illegal experiments that are going on in many ways.
[00:04:39]  A lot of them involve sex in weird ways.
[00:04:43]  It really reminds one of the Lexington drug files.
[00:04:46]  Right.
[00:04:46]  We covered that in our Synodon series.
[00:04:48]  But like, same exact sort of thing.
[00:04:51]  I mean, it was a lot of black people that were there for.
[00:04:53]  That one was weird because it was also a prison, but also can be voluntary.
[00:04:57]  Yeah.