True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 355: Tip Line
Aired: 2024-02-19
Duration: 01:37:31


=== Piercings and Proposals (03:32) ===

[00:00:00]  Welcome to WGAY, because I want a radio.
[00:00:06]  I am your host, Septim Piercing, and I am joined by my partner.
[00:00:13]  Wait, I do think that was very cute and funny, and I want to give you props for that, but this really set my mind off in a series of questions, which is that, do you have any piercings?
[00:00:26]  I don't know this.
[00:00:27]  That's a, wait.
[00:00:29]  Wait, are your ears pierced?
[00:00:31]  What?
[00:00:32]  What do you mean, do I have any piercings?
[00:00:34]  Like, because obviously nothing on my face.
[00:00:37]  Are you pierced?
[00:00:38]  Pause.
[00:00:41]  No.
[00:00:42]  No, maybe something closed up.
[00:00:44]  So you were on the streets.
[00:00:46]  You were hanging out.
[00:00:47]  You were punk rubs.
[00:00:48]  Is the real question whether I have my piercing or my nipples?
[00:00:52]  I was thinking like it would, I was literally.
[00:00:55]  No, I was like, I could see little baby brace having an eyebrow piercing.
[00:00:59]  An eyebrow piercing?
[00:01:01]  Look, it was the time.
[00:01:02]  No, it wasn't.
[00:01:03]  Nobody I knew had an eyebrow piercing.
[00:01:06]  An eyebrow piercing?
[00:01:08]  I mean.
[00:01:09]  Liz.
[00:01:09]  Well, you did a lot of stupid shit when you were a kid.
[00:01:12]  I did not do that.
[00:01:14]  I don't know if that was my question.
[00:01:15]  I have pierced two full, this is not a joke story.
[00:01:18]  I have pierced two guys' nipples.
[00:01:19]  I pierced Ratdick's nipple at the hazmat with a cockspar pin.
[00:01:24]  His third nipple.
[00:01:25]  I've actually, let me rephrase that.
[00:01:28]  I've pierced two guys' third nipples.
[00:01:30]  Pat.
[00:01:31]  Are third nipples that common?
[00:01:33]  Yes.
[00:01:33]  I think I actually looked this up like a year ago.
[00:01:36]  It's mostly guys that.
[00:01:38]  Interesting.
[00:01:39]  Yeah.
[00:01:40]  And I think they're actually kind of skin tags.
[00:01:43]  Which is that would make way more sense than a third third nipple pipe.
[00:01:47]  Well, why do guys have nipples in the first place?
[00:01:48]  You might as well have three.
[00:01:49]  The other two ain't doing anything.
[00:01:51]  Anyways, with Rat Dick, it was, I'm sure some people who listened, are listening to this were there that night, but we pierced it with a cockspar pin at the hazmat.
[00:02:01]  And with Pat, I feel bad about this.
[00:02:05]  And I wasn't the instigator, but at the hole, we held Pat down and Huck pierced his nipple with a safety pin.
[00:02:14]  And I think that got pretty badly infected.
[00:02:16]  That's me.
[00:02:17]  Yeah.
[00:02:18]  We like, like, how many people?
[00:02:20]  Like six of us.
[00:02:22]  Yeah, I actually, I feel pretty bad about that.
[00:02:24]  He doesn't really, I don't think he talks to any of us anymore.
[00:02:27]  I mean, I was 14.
[00:02:29]  I don't know.
[00:02:30]  Everyone did bad stuff to me, too.
[00:02:32]  But no, I have no piercings, and I would never get a piercing.
[00:02:36]  I do, however, am, I am confused why you haven't noticed the giant gaping holes in my ears from the massive plugs that I had for my 10 years spent as a bike messenger.
[00:02:48]  What's up with that?
[00:02:49]  I remember seeing those motherfucking plugs all those years ago and being like, you look goofy now.
[00:02:54]  You're going to look crazy when you're in the middle of the day.
[00:02:55]  You know, a lot of people, funny you should mention, a lot of people actually do get like filler and stuff to fix their ears because of that, like coming out.
[00:03:06]  Although, if it's like a serious, like if you had those like crazy tribal birdie managers, you see those guys all the time and stuff like that.
[00:03:11]  No, you're talking about like a reconstructive surgery, not filling that up.
[00:03:15]  It's a chop, right?
[00:03:16]  It's really more for like ladies who've been wearing heavy earrings for like 40 years that can kind of like fill that hole up, but pause.
[00:03:23]  Yeah.
[00:03:25]  Well, well, not really.
[00:03:27]  I would pause before filling that hole up, but yeah, it's I'm sorry, that felt weird to say too.

=== Encouraging Listener Theories (06:32) ===

[00:03:33]  I'll say that.
[00:03:34]  They did.
[00:03:58]  Bitties and germs.
[00:04:00]  I hope they're true or not.
[00:04:03]  I don't know why I just changed my tune.
[00:04:05]  Why?
[00:04:06]  I don't know.
[00:04:06]  I'm saying I don't know why.
[00:04:07]  You don't know?
[00:04:08]  Oh, yeah, I guess it's well, I was doing the Socratic thing.
[00:04:11]  Hello, ladies and germs.
[00:04:13]  My name is Brace Belden, the czar of Suboxone, the count of crystal methamphetamine, and somebody who just relapsed last night.
[00:04:24]  That's not true.
[00:04:25]  I'm Liz.
[00:04:26]  We are, of course, joined by producer Young Chomsky.
[00:04:29]  Again, my brain wanted to say Professor Young Chomsky.
[00:04:31]  That is psychotic.
[00:04:34]  You're listening to Truanon.
[00:04:35]  Hello.
[00:04:35]  Hello.
[00:04:37]  We have, in my opinion, which counts for a lot considering y'all are listening to it.
[00:04:43]  Facts.
[00:04:43]  Just through y'all on.
[00:04:45]  So you can't even be like.
[00:04:47]  I don't care about your opinion.
[00:04:48]  You do.
[00:04:50]  I think this is a fun one because this is our first ever the inaugural tip line episode.
[00:04:58]  For all of you coming late to the party, we announced the launch of the True Anon tip line.
[00:05:06]  The phone number is.
[00:05:09]  What's the phone number?
[00:05:10]  Do we have it anywhere?
[00:05:12]  646-8011129.
[00:05:16]  Hit that again.
[00:05:17]  That's 646-8011129.
[00:05:21]  The tip line, by the way, is permanently open now.
[00:05:25]  And so when we first constructed this tip line using this new technology we were given access to because of our position in the media world called Google Phone, there was a few things that we didn't consider.
[00:05:38]  One is that many of you appear to have poor connections or to be calling from places that are perhaps subterranean.
[00:05:46]  Perhaps where you live.
[00:05:47]  Yes.
[00:05:48]  Perhaps in a sewer.
[00:05:50]  And so many echoes.
[00:05:52]  Bora Bora.
[00:05:53]  Exactly.
[00:05:54]  Yeah.
[00:05:54]  And unusable audio and strange yelpings of possible children in the background going hungry and thirsty for breast milk while you talk yap on the phone to our answering machine.
[00:06:06]  Or mole people.
[00:06:07]  Or mole people.
[00:06:09]  But I will say, if in the future, maybe call.
[00:06:12]  And if you think that we can't hear you, we probably can't.
[00:06:16]  So get off the top of Mount Tam.
[00:06:19]  Now, as a counterpoint, I'm going to say this: where you come with criticism, I'm going to come with praise.
[00:06:25]  And I'm going to say, great job, everyone.
[00:06:27]  It's a good job.
[00:06:28]  I'm going to be blown away by some of the things that people left on the old answering machine, some of which we won't be playing today.
[00:06:40]  But yeah, I think people did a really good job.
[00:06:43]  A lot of people out there with very interesting information.
[00:06:46]  And I do think that after we play some of what we have here today and answer people's questions and talk a little bit about some of the little gossip that they're spreading around on the old airwaves, we're going to get even better.
[00:07:01]  So I do want to remind people that this tip line is going to be permanently open for a couple of different, well, a few different things, really anything, because we can't stop you from leaving whatever basically message you want.
[00:07:12]  But we do get transcriptions before we listen.
[00:07:14]  So I don't know what to tell you.
[00:07:17]  If you're doing a prank thing, I'll be able to see it.
[00:07:19]  And not listening at you.
[00:07:21]  You don't win that.
[00:07:21]  You're not wasting my time.
[00:07:22]  I'm already moving on.
[00:07:23]  I can already see Google does the whole thing for me.
[00:07:25]  But anyways, there is a, we like gossip.
[00:07:31]  We like blind items.
[00:07:32]  There's been a few episode suggestions, some of which were pretty good.
[00:07:37]  But I don't want to encourage people too much, but some of which were pretty good.
[00:07:40]  And there have been a lot of unsubstantiated rumors about famous people and politicians, which is exactly what I hear.
[00:07:49]  Not enough weird scientific ideas.
[00:07:53]  Yeah.
[00:07:55]  I do want to encourage people.
[00:07:57]  Someone did leave a message that was like, you guys are stupid for doing, this is the voice I'm assuming because I didn't click it because it annoyed me, read the transcript, said, eh, not listening to your dumb voice, unless you have a nice voice, but whatever, didn't hear it.
[00:08:13]  You guys are going to get crazy people calling in like from coast to coast where they're coming up with all their crazy, you know, crazy theories about, you know, geological movements in the star.
[00:08:27]  Please do that.
[00:08:28]  Send it in.
[00:08:28]  Please call it in.
[00:08:29]  I want to hear all your weird theories.
[00:08:31]  Send it in.
[00:08:31]  Do you have a whole, do you have, do you see like weird movements up in the stars?
[00:08:36]  Tell me about it.
[00:08:37]  If, if one thing that I think I've said on the show, but not for many years now, is that generally when people come up with a unified theory of everything, Eric Weinstein's a very good example of this.
[00:08:46]  When somebody starts saying that they have a unified theory about things is when they've reached the point of absolute insanity.
[00:08:54]  And we would like to hear from you to have a unified theory of something.
[00:08:57]  Yes.
[00:08:58]  Our most insane.
[00:08:59]  And also, what if you solved it?
[00:09:01]  That's the thing is, too, because you might think like, oh, I don't know.
[00:09:04]  These guys will think I'm crazy.
[00:09:06]  Have you considered this?
[00:09:07]  What if you're right and everybody else is wrong?
[00:09:11]  I love that.
[00:09:12]  What if, what if, what if.
[00:09:13]  I love that.
[00:09:14]  Yeah, I hit the tip line.
[00:09:17]  I think we should just get into it because there's some pretty good ones here.
[00:09:20]  And I want to give us enough time to properly work through some of the things that people are throwing at us.
[00:09:28]  Our first caller comes from San Francisco, and let's play that bad boy now.
[00:09:34]  Hey, so I'm from San Francisco, and I have a story related to some of the topics that you guys cover.
[00:09:45]  My dad is a product designer, and he has, you know, he's gotten relatively successful, and he was active professionally in the early 2000s.

=== Computers Lacking Sex Appeal (13:01) ===

[00:10:05]  And at some point, he was telling me the story about how he had this rich client book a like, I don't know if it was, I think it was a first-class flight for him immediately to meet with him in New York.
[00:10:34]  And that is how he met Ghislaine Maxwell.
[00:10:38]  And he said that over the course of their conversation, she was basically trying to pitch the fact that computers,
[00:10:54]  which were, of course, skyrocketing in popularity, that computer mice lacked sex appeal and that they she had an idea for how to better market computer mice to men.
[00:11:16]  And she said that what's missing from computers is the sex appeal.
[00:11:21]  So her suggestion was making a computer mask that was shaped like a breast, a human breast, and that you would press the nipple or move the nipple around in order to control the cursor and click with it.
[00:11:44]  He said he had no idea who she was or what he was doing there, but found out later exactly who she was.
[00:11:57]  All right.
[00:11:57]  Thanks so much.
[00:11:58]  Bye-bye.
[00:11:59]  Love the show.
[00:12:00]  Wow.
[00:12:01]  Wow.
[00:12:02]  First of all, I can see the vision with the mouse.
[00:12:08]  I've seen existence.
[00:12:10]  I saw that recently.
[00:12:11]  And I get where Ghelane was coming from with that because I do see a mouse and I don't see a woman.
[00:12:19]  And that, to me, is not a problem, but I understand how to other people.
[00:12:23]  I feel like at this point, this probably exists.
[00:12:25]  Like, there's 100% like a Japanese novelty company that actually produced this.
[00:12:30]  Right off the bat, I want to say this.
[00:12:32]  Just before we get into the content of the message that was passed on, do not call us high.
[00:12:40]  Yes.
[00:12:40]  It's tough.
[00:12:42]  Listen, I don't know if that's what happened.
[00:12:45]  I don't know what's going on here.
[00:12:46]  But also, maybe get in the shower, practice a little run-through.
[00:12:50]  Maybe do a bump, is what I'm saying.
[00:12:52]  Maybe hit a bump.
[00:12:53]  No, just practice a little run-through.
[00:12:54]  You know, keep it tight, keep it right.
[00:12:57]  Absolutely.
[00:12:57]  But what we do is I do is when I do my little run-throughs, I always do a tiny little bump, just a cheeky little bump to, you know, get one rocking.
[00:13:06]  We don't even, I have nothing to add to that.
[00:13:09]  I just, that is exactly the kind of thing that I want to hear.
[00:13:12]  Well, I will say this.
[00:13:13]  I do think that Ghilaine was both wrong and right.
[00:13:18]  Yes.
[00:13:19]  In that, I mean, are computers sexy?
[00:13:22]  I think you could argue that Apple computers do a better job at that at this time.
[00:13:26]  Were they?
[00:13:27]  Probably not.
[00:13:28]  Two, does she only think about sex?
[00:13:32]  Like, that's a crazy ass thing to be like, oh, my idea is just everything should be like sexual looking.
[00:13:40]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:40]  Because that seems to be a reoccurring thing.
[00:13:42]  That's a very much like an Epstein kind of thing.
[00:13:46]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[00:13:47]  His whole like, why isn't this about pussy?
[00:13:49]  But it's like, yeah, it's totally weird to just be like looking around and be like, this would be successful if boobs.
[00:13:55]  And that would be successful if boobs.
[00:13:57]  It's weird to fly a guy out and be like, I have an idea for you.
[00:14:00]  What if we made this mouse a titty?
[00:14:02]  Yeah.
[00:14:03]  But also, like, how perverse is it to be like, not only is it a titty, you flick the nipple to move it around.
[00:14:09]  That's fucking crazy.
[00:14:11]  And then I don't really, I'm not, well, like it's a little joystick.
[00:14:16]  I can see, I think there's gamer mouses like that.
[00:14:18]  That are sort of a wrong thing with the.
[00:14:20]  I think she was early.
[00:14:21]  She was too early, which again, that's tough.
[00:14:23]  That's a tough position to be in.
[00:14:24]  I understand that difficulty very much.
[00:14:27]  But she was too early because obviously, look, we know a lot of people that are that are personalities of the internet that I shall not name because I don't care to that I could see owning a certain type of accoutrement.
[00:14:44]  You talk about live streamers.
[00:14:45]  I'm talking about live streamers.
[00:14:46]  You're talking about live streamers.
[00:14:47]  I'm not sure it would be a human's accoutrement, if you know what I'm talking about.
[00:14:52]  And I do not believe that horses have titties.
[00:14:55]  Our next caller had something to say about a recent viral video that I actually believe Liz has not seen yet.
[00:15:03]  Y'all, I know I shouldn't say y'all, but fuck it.
[00:15:08]  The Drake penis video is fake.
[00:15:10]  Using one of the fake penises, it's not real.
[00:15:14]  It's a fake penis.
[00:15:15]  And I think people need to realize that that's not.
[00:15:19]  It's the perfect Drake publicity story.
[00:15:21]  Was there a big floppy dick hanging there, right?
[00:15:24]  It's fake.
[00:15:24]  There's a fake fucking penis.
[00:15:26]  Everyone should know that.
[00:15:27]  Don't buy into that Drake's real penis.
[00:15:30]  No penis looks like that.
[00:15:32]  So that caller was calling from Capistan because I'm afraid that that video, I think, is real.
[00:15:40]  Now, Liz, have you seen the recent leaked video of Drake's big floppy penis?
[00:15:46]  No.
[00:15:46]  I don't.
[00:15:48]  You're going to make fun of me for this, and that's fine, but I don't like looking at like leaked people.
[00:15:56]  Like, I'm not interested in looking at that.
[00:15:57]  I feel like that's like wrong.
[00:15:59]  I would agree normally, almost in all cases, but I'm I feel like Drake wants this out there.
[00:16:07]  But regardless, I don't know.
[00:16:08]  But also just not for me.
[00:16:10]  It's not for me.
[00:16:11]  It is.
[00:16:12]  So I think in the days after the Drake penis video dropped, I think a lot of people were saying that it was fake.
[00:16:21]  And I have watched the video once or twice.
[00:16:26]  And I got to tell you, it's real.
[00:16:30]  Wait, so, okay, so there's two levels of fakery.
[00:16:32]  Yeah.
[00:16:33]  Potential fakery.
[00:16:34]  Yes.
[00:16:34]  One, the video itself is fake, as in it's someone else.
[00:16:40]  Or I'm going to throw out AI there.
[00:16:43]  Could be AI.
[00:16:44]  Second level of fake, it is a prosthetic.
[00:16:48]  Or what this caller called the, what did he say?
[00:16:52]  Like, fake dick.
[00:16:54]  The fake.
[00:16:55]  The fake dick.
[00:16:55]  Yeah, as if there is a certain type of fake.
[00:16:58]  Well, there are fake dicks that you can use to pass piss tests.
[00:17:02]  Yeah, I know, but I have a friend whose husband did that.
[00:17:05]  And it's a very elaborate scheme.
[00:17:07]  I gotta say, Sarah sent it to me the other night, and I was prepared to be like, this is bullshit.
[00:17:19]  Because Drake is such a, you know, like a, oh, Like, it's like, I thought it was going to be like, you know, like, like, I expected it to be him like kind of emo biting his lower lip and like, like, putting his dick imprint in like, you know, whatever, some, like, joggers.
[00:17:36]  But it's just him rocking around with this flappy little fan.
[00:17:39]  Well, not little, massive penis.
[00:17:42]  And I think what people are, I think what's the uncanny thing about it is that it is the length of it would imply that it was a rigid member, but the non-rigidity of it, the, the looseness of it, shows a significant lack of blood within the penis.
[00:18:02]  And so not hard.
[00:18:04]  And so he just has a hugely...
[00:18:07]  I'm with you.
[00:18:07]  I don't really love that.
[00:18:08]  I mean, I'm sorry.
[00:18:10]  You guys haven't seen this?
[00:18:11]  No.
[00:18:13]  I don't want to see it.
[00:18:14]  What are we doing?
[00:18:17]  That's crazy.
[00:18:18]  Why?
[00:18:19]  It's the news.
[00:18:20]  No, it's not.
[00:18:21]  It's a nude that was leaked, and it's none of my business.
[00:18:25]  I got to tell you, I think, I mean, Drake is his own special sexuality.
[00:18:31]  And I feel like he is basking in this publicity.
[00:18:35]  I will say, though, just kind of meta commentary, it does feel very Vintage to drop a like sex tape or a nude leak or whatever, whatever.
[00:18:45]  Like it's very, it's very 2010s.
[00:18:49]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:49]  Or early 2000s.
[00:18:51]  You know, like that, you don't really, that doesn't really happen as much anymore unless it's a hack.
[00:18:56]  Like you had the big celebrity hack or whatever.
[00:18:58]  That was really awful.
[00:18:59]  The like cloud hack or whatever.
[00:19:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:02]  It's called The Fappiny.
[00:19:04]  Yeah.
[00:19:04]  It's like, yeah, shit like that is like really awful.
[00:19:07]  I have no tolerance for any kind of indulging of that stuff.
[00:19:10]  But it does feel like what you're saying is that maybe it was possibly done for like promotional reasons.
[00:19:19]  Well, that's what the collar is saying.
[00:19:20]  Right, right, right.
[00:19:22]  But that feels to me very vintage.
[00:19:28]  That kind of like.
[00:19:29]  Yeah.
[00:19:29]  Yeah.
[00:19:30]  I'm slightly amenable to that theory only because it's Drake and that's like sort of part of his like thing or whatever.
[00:19:37]  It is funny because I feel like it used to be where people would like, and this, this, beyond like the hacks and stuff, like people would like post like basically what amounts to revenge porn of like famous people they'd slept with or whatever, like texts from them.
[00:19:55]  And that feels like it is less, like people are not receptive to that anymore.
[00:20:01]  There was a guy who just a rapper who just got his butthole leaked, a picture of it.
[00:20:08]  And that he had like sent to some lady he was dating.
[00:20:11]  She like posted on Twitter and be like, fuck this dude or whatever.
[00:20:14]  And it was all people being like, don't do this.
[00:20:16]  Well, like there was the Taylor Swift AI thing.
[00:20:19]  That too.
[00:20:20]  Kind of I mean rightfully flipped out.
[00:20:23]  Yeah, I feel like that is like it's weird, because I feel like on some level, people are like ready to be like fuck, whatever they're famous, like you know who gives a fuck, but like also it feels, I think, like some of that, maybe energy that people had that were like more immediate towards it, like back when all the leaks happened and all that shit is is gone from the mainstream parts of society.
[00:20:46]  Well, it's funny too because I think that that line between like who's like crazy big famous versus who's like micro famous versus who's in between has like blurred so much and that when all this shit gets like sent out on social media, there's a lot of people who could be like, oh my god, imagine if that were me because they either see their own following, whatever size it is, as being precarious and their own kind of social standing in these like, you know,
[00:21:13]  different kind of hierarchies as being – precarious.
[00:21:17]  And if something like that were to leak of them, it's like I think more and more people could put themselves in their shoes.
[00:21:22]  Versus when that huge leak happened, that cloud leak happened it, we weren't really at that level yet where almost everyone was even micro influencers could be, could have like fandoms that were big enough to kind of have their own like internal, like social yeah, hierarchy.
[00:21:42]  I feel like talking, if that makes sense no, it does.
[00:21:46]  And I feel like there's also, just like I, there was a sort of like content that, like mine, that people would mine uh, for a few years, which is just like they would post like screenshots of shit from like dating apps or whatever, or like texts from guys.
[00:22:02]  I feel like that is now sort of seen as like unseemly, which it is.
[00:22:06]  I mean, you should.
[00:22:06]  You know, we've talked about this on the show before, but like that, it all feels sort of of a piece.
[00:22:12]  Yeah, it's all kind of part of a larger ecosystem of cancel culture.
[00:22:16]  Maybe yeah yeah yeah, exactly like it's not people kind of would maybe be like under that umbrella, but not that's like not really an accurate term for it.
[00:22:24]  Um, I will say I have had a a uh well, I don't know if it's fake, but a picture of Drake uh uh, sucking a penis on my phone for maybe six or seven years.
[00:22:36]  Uh, it looks really real, it looks like Drake and he's you mean someone who sent it to you, or i'm not gonna say where the phone, i'm not gonna say where I got it was like the You Two album, like Apple, just sort of like put it in my favorite section um, but yeah, it really it's a great um I I I I, just I I, looking at that, like between back and forth between that and the the dick pic leak or the video um, I gotta say I think that the him sucking a dick is fake, but I think the dick pic thing is real.

=== Trump's New Hampshire Burger (09:18) ===

[00:23:07]  Moving on, our next caller has a little comment about some food on the campaign trail.
[00:23:16]  What's up, Trinon?
[00:23:17]  Big fan, listening to you guys for a few years.
[00:23:19]  I've got a pretty stupid question.
[00:23:23]  Just want to hear what you guys' thoughts on this are from the restaurant world in New Hampshire.
[00:23:28]  There is a restaurant in Massachusetts, not Massachusetts, in Manchester, New Hampshire, that all the presidential candidates come through.
[00:23:36]  They always have little pictures and placards showing that they went there.
[00:23:39]  So we know that Trump went there when he was on campaign.
[00:23:42]  And in around 2015, a new item appeared on the menu called the Trump Tower Burger, which is a bacon cheeseburger with lettuce, tomato, onion, pickle.
[00:23:53]  And then the buns are two grilled cheese sandwiches.
[00:23:56]  And then the cheese in the sandwich is mac and cheese.
[00:24:01]  So it's two grilled mac and cheese sandwiches with a bacon cheeseburger in the middle of it.
[00:24:04]  And it comes with fries.
[00:24:05]  So this is like a 4,000 calorie meal.
[00:24:08]  My question is, do you guys think that he just showed up and ordered that and they put it on the menu after?
[00:24:15]  Or do you think that they put that on the menu to try to bait him into ordering it because they knew he'd order anything that had his name on it?
[00:24:22]  This isn't like a food challenge or anything.
[00:24:24]  You don't get anything for eating the whole thing.
[00:24:26]  It's just there.
[00:24:26]  And I've never seen anybody in my life order it.
[00:24:28]  So I have to imagine that they made it just for him.
[00:24:31]  I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
[00:24:33]  What do you think that's up with that?
[00:24:34]  Do you think he ate that?
[00:24:35]  You think if he were to eat that, he were to die?
[00:24:38]  I guess my only other blind item, very minor thing, I used to work at a movie theater, and I can tell you for a fact that Jean Shaheen, I believe state representative from New Hampshire, always tries to exceed the two drink maximum when she goes.
[00:24:53]  All right.
[00:24:53]  Hope you guys enjoy.
[00:24:54]  I'd love to hear your answer.
[00:24:55]  Thanks.
[00:24:57]  Wow.
[00:24:58]  So first of all, that is exactly the tone, cadence, accent, and clip of speech that I like to hear in a voice message.
[00:25:07]  That is perfect.
[00:25:10]  I actually have an answer to his questions.
[00:25:12]  I did a little bit of research on this.
[00:25:14]  Okay.
[00:25:15]  First of all, he outs himself as clearly a customer of the Red Arrow diner because he says he's never seen anyone order this.
[00:25:24]  Or perhaps an employee, maybe perhaps an employer.
[00:25:27]  But I've also never seen anyone order this because I've never been to the Red Arrow diner.
[00:25:30]  Politicians have, it is like one of those places that politicians stop.
[00:25:34]  And who knows fucking why?
[00:25:35]  I guess Clinton was the first to do it in 92.
[00:25:39]  But I was sending you guys, I was looking at their menu the other day.
[00:25:43]  Yeah, I just threw it back in the chat because I'm looking at it right now.
[00:25:46]  It is a crazy fucking burger.
[00:25:50]  So I'm going to read off because he did a good job of describing it, but he missed a couple things that I think are very important while we break down this question.
[00:26:02]  So first of all, it says, are you ready for this?
[00:26:04]  And this is under the subhead in the menu, big bites.
[00:26:09]  Trump Tower Burger, aka Newtonburger.
[00:26:13]  Now that's an interesting little, I want to pinpoint that, right?
[00:26:16]  AKA Newton burger.
[00:26:17]  A customer creation.
[00:26:20]  Two grilled cheese sandwiches replace the bun.
[00:26:23]  One of our handcrafted fresh ground beef burgers topped with fried mac and cheese and cheese sauce served with fries.
[00:26:32]  Now in the photo, there's also bacon, like he mentions, and a pickle.
[00:26:39]  $20.75.
[00:26:40]  That's a fucking good deal.
[00:26:42]  It's also available 24-7, which is crazy.
[00:26:46]  Crazy breakfast in the morning.
[00:26:47]  Now, a customer creation.
[00:26:50]  So this was a creation of a customer.
[00:26:54]  This was apparently, this has on their website.
[00:26:56]  There's a couple articles about it.
[00:26:57]  A customer came in and suggested this.
[00:26:59]  Whether they suggested this be the Trump Tower burger, I don't know.
[00:27:03]  But I will say, in answer to your question, whether this was a challenge for Donald Trump to order it, there is video evidence of Donald Trump not only ordering this, but sitting down in front of this burger.
[00:27:14]  But not eating?
[00:27:15]  Not eating.
[00:27:16]  Interesting.
[00:27:17]  Because I don't think that Trump, Trump obviously has a dietary system that is beyond our understanding.
[00:27:25]  He's like, his insides are coated in fish filet sauce.
[00:27:28]  Something is going on in there in which if you x-rayed him, your machine would explode.
[00:27:35]  Like there's something going on there that is so oily that you would be like Event Horizon or something.
[00:27:41]  You would tear out your eyes.
[00:27:43]  He's coated in poofas.
[00:27:45]  Yeah, whatever that is, I don't know.
[00:27:47]  But I feel like if you popped a pimple on him, like on his belly, it wouldn't stop flowing for months.
[00:27:52]  It would be like an oil gushing kind of thing.
[00:27:56]  I did like, remember when he said one of my favorite Trumpisms, just side note, is when he was like, I don't exercise because you only have a certain amount of energy that you can exert.
[00:28:04]  I fucking love that.
[00:28:07]  It's kind of true.
[00:28:09]  You know, if you believe that, hit the tip line.
[00:28:11]  I want to hear more about this.
[00:28:12]  Yeah, if you have any theories about the body, definitely hit the tip line.
[00:28:16]  We want to hear them.
[00:28:18]  One thing, though, it's like the owner's son that's like introducing Trump in this little video.
[00:28:25]  And he refers to Trump as he was de-virginizing Trump with the Trump Tower burger.
[00:28:32]  And then they repeat the same phraseology on their website while they say, Donald Trump, presidential candidate, visits us at the Red Arrow diner for the first time.
[00:28:41]  We welcome Mr. Trump by de-virginizing him for his first visit to the Red Arrow Dinerway.
[00:28:48]  Well, I looked that up on local New Hampshire subreddits, and apparently de-virginizing someone in New Hampshire means covering them in oil and frying them.
[00:28:58]  Sorry, that was a rude joke.
[00:28:59]  I don't really know what's going on in New Hampshire.
[00:29:03]  But yeah, I think that it's funny because they clearly support like every presidential candidate goes there, but no one else has their own burger.
[00:29:08]  But there's no video of him actually eating it.
[00:29:10]  There's no video of him.
[00:29:10]  You can't eat shit like that.
[00:29:12]  They're making burgers too big.
[00:29:14]  Well, that's been going on for a while.
[00:29:15]  But this is what I'm going to say because I'm looking at this Trump Tower burger, aka Newton burger, which obviously it's made by a customer named Newton.
[00:29:23]  So they just renamed it the Trump Tower Burger for some fucking reason.
[00:29:27]  Probably just to put his name on the menu.
[00:29:28]  I do think that his staff was like, which one can we rename or like have an aka part of?
[00:29:34]  And they were like, this one.
[00:29:35]  Okay.
[00:29:35]  So now it'll always have Trump on it.
[00:29:37]  They love that.
[00:29:39]  But I don't think his mouth is big enough to eat this.
[00:29:42]  So I don't think that he can open his jaw that wide.
[00:29:45]  And I think that one thing is like, okay, you know, he loves fast food.
[00:29:49]  That's the kind of the size in terms of like squishiness and flatsiness of a fast food burger.
[00:29:56]  And I'm not talking about like a good like Smash burger.
[00:29:59]  I'm talking like straight up American McDonald's, Wendy's.
[00:30:03]  You know the drill, right?
[00:30:04]  Kind of like squishy flatsies.
[00:30:07]  That's what my man is like constantly throwing down.
[00:30:10]  It's a chewy burger.
[00:30:11]  Yeah.
[00:30:11]  These artisanal bespoke burgeries are creating these burgers that are not like meant to be actually like ingested when someone's like, it's just like a totally different approach to burgering.
[00:30:25]  And I feel like Trump would not eat this because he's physically incapable of doing so.
[00:30:30]  I don't think he would at all.
[00:30:31]  No.
[00:30:32]  But I could see him having like a tiny like little flick of a French fry, which he would very daintily like drop into the ketchup little cup thing.
[00:30:42]  Do you think he would like do a double dip?
[00:30:43]  Yeah, and he put the pinky up.
[00:30:45]  He would definitely throw a pinky up.
[00:30:47]  And then, I'm going to say it, a little tip of the pickle spear.
[00:30:50]  I take it as a little apertif.
[00:30:53]  I don't know if you looked at the rest of their menu, but we have to do something about obesity in America.
[00:31:00]  They sell a mug of bacon, 20 slices of our crispy maple cured bacon for $16.75.
[00:31:07]  Keep the mug for $2,250.
[00:31:09]  It's kind of a cute little mug.
[00:31:10]  Or you could get a cup of bacon.
[00:31:12]  It's just like everything is like 7,000 calories.
[00:31:17]  It's insane.
[00:31:18]  And that's not a problem for me to complain about.
[00:31:20]  But it is a little, it is crazy.
[00:31:22]  Because like, I don't know.
[00:31:24]  There's the Adam Sandler burger too, which is topped with lettuce, tomato, raw onion, and mayo, which is just a hamburger.
[00:31:32]  Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's a very, very American.
[00:31:36]  They've got Guy Fieri on the cover of their menu.
[00:31:39]  It's all very, you know, there's a lot of places like this.
[00:31:42]  I have some news about, well, I've actually already told my guy Fieri gossip on the Max Waite episodes that he's a great boss.
[00:31:50]  That's nice.
[00:31:52]  But yeah, I feel like my thing is with, I mean, everyone talks about this every presidential cycle.
[00:31:59]  They don't eat.
[00:32:00]  The only people that eat the food in these places is Chris Christie because he doesn't know any better.
[00:32:05]  It's like Obama was eating a hot dog or something, but they're not eating the slop surprise shit.
[00:32:12]  They're not eating the whole bowl of chili.
[00:32:14]  Well, you can't because the risk is that you're getting stuff on your shirt.
[00:32:20]  You can't be seen as a messy eater.
[00:32:22]  You can't be doing that.
[00:32:23]  So it's like it has to be very controlled.

=== Cheerleading Scandal Rumors (14:56) ===

[00:32:26]  Yeah.
[00:32:26]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:27]  Yeah.
[00:32:28]  All pictures taken before any bite.
[00:32:31]  That is true.
[00:32:32]  Yeah.
[00:32:32]  Well, you never want to get a picture of you taken mid-gite anytime, anywhere, ever.
[00:32:37]  Except for me, because obviously the way I eat hot dogs is weird, and so people like to take pictures of it.
[00:32:41]  I kind of let them do that.
[00:32:42]  Same thing with chicken wings.
[00:32:44]  But beyond that.
[00:32:45]  Why are you eating chicken wings?
[00:32:46]  You know I'm eating them.
[00:32:48]  Drake style.
[00:32:50]  What?
[00:32:51]  So our next question, our next caller, rather, is from Green.
[00:32:56]  Well, I don't know if they're from Greenville, South Carolina, but let's just play the message.
[00:33:01]  Okay, so there is a country club in Greenville, South Carolina called Thornwood.
[00:33:11]  And there's only one guy who covers this in the area.
[00:33:16]  But it involves kids from the local high schools and local cheerleading training chain.
[00:33:30]  And also, they called themselves, it's a cult thing.
[00:33:35]  They called themselves the Apostles.
[00:33:38]  Apparently, Secret Service and Department of Homeland Security got involved, I think it was, and then nothing ever came of it.
[00:33:51]  So, yeah, really fucking weird.
[00:33:55]  Okay, there were like three messages about this.
[00:33:58]  Did you see that?
[00:33:58]  I did, yeah.
[00:33:59]  And I got to say, we got to correct the record a little bit.
[00:34:03]  There's a few things that that caller got wrong.
[00:34:06]  Well, it's very confusing, but a very interesting story.
[00:34:13]  This takes place in a town called Greenville in South Carolina, which seems to be a very weird place.
[00:34:21]  Yeah, and it's sort of like there's a couple different things happening here, one of which revolves around a country club called Thornblade.
[00:34:28]  Yeah, Thornblade.
[00:34:29]  It sounds like, I don't know, like a fucking Hulu series name for a country club.
[00:34:34]  Yeah, and the logo has this like red rose that's very, yeah, yeah.
[00:34:38]  It's very Ryan Murphy.
[00:34:39]  And I want to make a mention, too, of the guy that he mentions that covers it.
[00:34:44]  It's like the main.
[00:34:45]  Fitz News.
[00:34:46]  Fitz News.
[00:34:47]  But the guy, like the actual dude behind FitzNews is a guy named Will Foulkes, who is kind of incredible.
[00:34:56]  Yeah, it's like a real, like, I love a local TMZ style reporter.
[00:35:00]  Well, yes, absolutely.
[00:35:01]  But he was the one who accused Nikki Haley of having an affair like 12 years ago, which has resurfaced.
[00:35:08]  Yeah, and I think that his site was one of the first on the Alex Murdaugh case.
[00:35:13]  I think so.
[00:35:14]  And they was really following it and being like, this is really fucking weird.
[00:35:18]  And then obviously everyone knows that took the nation.
[00:35:21]  It did.
[00:35:22]  And a lot of housewives.
[00:35:23]  Liz says.
[00:35:24]  Liz says he is innocent.
[00:35:26]  I disagree, but she just goes crazy about him.
[00:35:29]  The picture on here is a little much.
[00:35:31]  Okay, so Thornblade.
[00:35:32]  So we both looked into this.
[00:35:33]  Right off the bat, this area where that country club is, as you could imagine, because it's a country club, is quite wealthy.
[00:35:42]  Very wealthy.
[00:35:43]  Very wealthy.
[00:35:44]  But it seems like back in 2020, there were a couple different scandals that hit that may or may not be related.
[00:35:53]  We don't know.
[00:35:54]  But that our intrepid little caller, our little gumshoe out there, is kind of maybe conflating.
[00:35:59]  Yeah.
[00:35:59]  So we got to like break them apart a little bit.
[00:36:02]  I don't know if you remember, but Liz, we actually looked into this like three years ago.
[00:36:07]  I think that seems right.
[00:36:09]  And it basically, like almost all of it's from Fitz News.
[00:36:14]  Yeah.
[00:36:14]  Fitz News.
[00:36:15]  Yeah.
[00:36:15]  Fitz News.
[00:36:16]  And so I would just for whatever, I mean, there's just, there's only so much information out there.
[00:36:21]  But it is, and, you know, we've done a lot of reading of local Reddits and Facebook's posts in the days kind of before we were to talk about this.
[00:36:34]  From what I can understand is that there are very horny older people at this country club who got involved with some teenagers from the local high school.
[00:36:48]  Yeah, okay.
[00:36:49]  So I think there's three levels to this.
[00:36:51]  Yeah.
[00:36:51]  One, there's the sort of like money scandal that is part of the country club.
[00:36:58]  So one of their, there's a couple like rumors about this part, which is important to mention.
[00:37:03]  One of their employees possibly, maybe, allegedly, charged a member's Amex for $110,000.
[00:37:12]  Not a crime.
[00:37:13]  Victimless.
[00:37:15]  Now, this was a big deal because obviously the member went to the club and was like, what's going on here?
[00:37:23]  And so the club was like, fuck, now we need to contact the local sheriff's office to look into this and getting the members' money back.
[00:37:31]  But they didn't want to do that because maybe someone within the club allegedly, possibly, according to multiple rumors, was actually embezzling close to $600,000, $700,000.
[00:37:45]  Yes.
[00:37:45]  This is a classic case of while you're at the club, I'm at the bank.
[00:37:49]  Yes.
[00:37:50]  But the problem was, is that, so initially, they like basically looked into their books and they're like, that's crazy.
[00:37:57]  There's all these discrepancies with our books.
[00:38:00]  Maybe our members will cover the losses.
[00:38:03]  And so they asked the members of the country club, hey, can you give us like three grand?
[00:38:07]  And the members were like, what the fuck are you talking about?
[00:38:11]  So then the local sheriffs were like, wait, this is weird.
[00:38:14]  And they called Secret Service because Secret Service handles like financial crime.
[00:38:21]  Yeah.
[00:38:21]  So that's where the Secret Service got involved.
[00:38:23]  Okay, so there's that level.
[00:38:25]  Now, the second level is that there were rumors possibly related to the person who was maybe charging the Amex $110,000 or more or less.
[00:38:38]  I don't know, allegedly, of a kind of true detective/slash eyes wide shut style members only sex club.
[00:38:46]  That's different from the third scandal that I'm going to mention, okay?
[00:38:49]  So I'm on the second level now.
[00:38:51]  This is where that, I think our caller called it the Apostles.
[00:38:54]  There were rumors they were called the Disciples.
[00:38:56]  So sick.
[00:38:57]  That's very weird.
[00:38:58]  It's got to be 12.
[00:38:59]  It's got to be 12, right?
[00:39:01]  With one Christ-like tragic figure heading them.
[00:39:06]  There was allegedly, according to rumor, a group of men who called themselves the disciples, and they would have this like freaky sex party stuff at people's houses, one of which was on the grounds of the country clubs.
[00:39:19]  You know how country clubs have houses that you can buy.
[00:39:21]  You retire, you live at a country club, whatever.
[00:39:24]  And they would do like freaky sex style stuff with underage, but we'll get to maybe technically not underage because of you gotta love it, the South consent laws.
[00:39:37]  Which you knew like right off the bat.
[00:39:39]  Okay.
[00:39:40]  But they would charge members allegedly maybe like 10K to participate.
[00:39:45]  Okay, geez.
[00:39:46]  And at one point, one of the members tried to get out, allegedly, and they were like, nobody, we got you on tape, classic move.
[00:39:59]  They sent that tape to the spouse.
[00:40:04]  And the spouse leaked that they were being blackmailed.
[00:40:06]  And that's when some of this stuff dropped.
[00:40:09]  This is maybe one of the rumors of how this happened.
[00:40:11]  Now, the more solid one is the third level, which is the one that you're talking about, which is a possible, apparently prostitution ring maybe being run by members of this country club that's different than the second level.
[00:40:32]  Than the disciples.
[00:40:33]  Than the disciples.
[00:40:33]  Okay.
[00:40:34]  So this one was, this is going to be a little twist for you, a local yoga mom.
[00:40:42]  Interesting.
[00:40:43]  Kundalini.
[00:40:45]  Who was possibly, the rumor is that she slept with someone from one of the high schools, possibly on a baseball team or a sports team.
[00:40:58]  And word got out that she had a great time amongst her friends.
[00:41:06]  And she started basically pimping out other members of the said team to her housewife friends at the country club.
[00:41:17]  So, hold on.
[00:41:18]  There's a rumor of both a male-centric disciples sex party pimping out high school girls thing.
[00:41:27]  Yes.
[00:41:27]  And a yoga mom pimping out high school boys sex thing.
[00:41:33]  But also then the rumor is that the boys' ring was doing so well that she also got some girls involved as well.
[00:41:42]  Oh my God.
[00:41:43]  So, but this is all rumors.
[00:41:45]  Yeah.
[00:41:45]  This is like, this is.
[00:41:46]  Are you from Greenville?
[00:41:48]  Calumny?
[00:41:51]  Whatever that word is.
[00:41:53]  There's a couple rumors of how this all went down.
[00:41:55]  One of them is that one of the moms that were maybe involved, the son, found a video on his friend's phone.
[00:42:08]  People say, including FitzNews, but also other people that have been commenting and kind of trying to piece together what was going on on the old interwebs, that this local yoga mom was interviewed by DHS for like three hours.
[00:42:25]  But I think the thing is, is that there was no evidence that any kind of payment was happening.
[00:42:33]  Yeah.
[00:42:35]  So I don't know if that's why any kind of investigation fell apart.
[00:42:39]  I also think there's a lot of money involved.
[00:42:40]  People don't want this getting out.
[00:42:41]  And to small town rumors, too.
[00:42:43]  Small town rumors.
[00:42:44]  But also, again, the age of consent law in South Carolina is 16.
[00:42:49]  She had her eyes closed when she said that.
[00:42:51]  I also think it's really low in New York for some reason.
[00:42:54]  I don't know.
[00:42:55]  But so I think a lot of these kids were technically, you know, above age of consent.
[00:43:02]  And so there's really not that much to do.
[00:43:04]  But it is, so this all broke on FitzNews because like the local business owner, it came out that he was getting divorced and he said, oh, you know, it came to light that my wife had affairs with multiple partners.
[00:43:20]  And then everyone started to kind of feast this together.
[00:43:24]  So, I mean, again, a lot of this is, well, almost all of it is rumor.
[00:43:29]  But there's also, we should add something more, much more substantial in the fact that there's a dead body involved, which I believe was also mentioned.
[00:43:37]  I don't think that part was, but there was mention of cheer scandal in that call, I think.
[00:43:43]  And a cheerleading school nearby had its owner commit suicide in his car basically the same day he was going to meet with an attorney after he'd been accused of sexual impropriety with several young girls who had been like members or girls and boys, I believe, that had been members of the cheer school.
[00:44:04]  Yeah, that is a man named Scott Foster, not the NBA ref, but yeah, he shot himself in the head.
[00:44:12]  He owned and operated this gym called Rockstar Cheer and Dance, Inc., which is a private, privately owned cheerleading gym.
[00:44:23]  And it came out that all of these kind of past and current athletes within the gym were accusing him of really, really heinous crimes and abuse.
[00:44:36]  And all of this sort of dropped at the same time.
[00:44:39]  And it was during COVID.
[00:44:40]  So I think a lot of stuff got conflated.
[00:44:43]  But I think we should actually do an episode on the Rockstar cheer scandal because there's a bigger story there about the way that cheerleading is run in the U.S. Because it's not actually regulated as, it's not run under the NCAA.
[00:45:00]  It's not regulated as a sport.
[00:45:01]  And it's actually owned by one private company.
[00:45:04]  And Matt Stoller has actually done reporting on this because it's like, you know, he does this like monopoly angle.
[00:45:10]  And there's some pretty crazy stuff there on how they kind of run and operate business.
[00:45:14]  But there's so many stories, including very recently, of course, the woman who's featured as the like big coach in Netflix Cheer was just like accused of, I can't remember if it was her like hiding abuse or being abusive, but then her son was arrested on child porn charges.
[00:45:34]  There was the kid who was in the first season of Cheer, who was arrested and thrown in jail for producing child porn.
[00:45:42]  And there's like, I mean, I was looking on, I can't remember the name of the company now.
[00:45:48]  I'm forgetting, I can't remember if it's like Victory or Variety or something like that.
[00:45:51]  I should have it in front of me.
[00:45:52]  But they have a running list of like coaches that are basically currently under internal investigation.
[00:46:04]  And if you look at some of these, you know, some of the people that post gossip or on different kind of forums and subreddits and even on Twitter and different social media, like the abuse that's running like rampant in this cheerleading industry is pretty crazy.
[00:46:24]  I mean, it feels very similar to what was going on with American gymnastics, where it feels like systematic.
[00:46:33]  It feels like cover-up systematic and pretty scary.
[00:46:39]  The kind of other angle of this, sorry, I'll stop in a second, but I find it very fascinating, is that like these girls and boys who kind of go into trying to kind of do cheerleading at a competitive level after high school, like there isn't really anywhere to go after that because there's no if you get into the NFL, like this is the one thing I know about it is that like cheerleaders in the NFL make like a hundred bucks a game.
[00:47:05]  Oh, yeah, that stuff is like really well, that's like the top level of like professional or whatever cheering.
[00:47:10]  I'm sure that there's like competition stuff that is top level or whatever, but like that's the highest job of cheerleading you can have and you're getting paid probably less than like, you know, fucking, you know, whoever's running and getting pens for the coach.

=== Donald Rumsfeld's Closet? (06:07) ===

[00:47:22]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:47:23]  I think NBA cheerleaders make like $15 an hour actually.
[00:47:26]  So yeah, it is pretty crazy.
[00:47:28]  But for like competitive cheerleading, there isn't like, I think they are trying to get it into the Olympics, which is kind of a, I think, self-serving.
[00:47:38]  America's going to dominate.
[00:47:40]  Yeah, a little self-serving for that, for that company, which maybe we'll talk about in the episode.
[00:47:44]  But so a lot of the girls are driven into also influencer stuff, which has its own economy there.
[00:47:50]  I don't know.
[00:47:50]  It's a very fascinating little slice of industry that seems to be have a lot of angles that I think we could kind of explore.
[00:47:59]  So look out for that.
[00:48:00]  But are you from Greenville?
[00:48:01]  Hit the tip line because your town sounds fucking weird.
[00:48:15]  Our next one is a classic type of phone call.
[00:48:20]  Hey, guys.
[00:48:21]  I've got a very unsubstantiated rumor about Donald Rumsfeld.
[00:48:27]  I went to college in DC and he gave scholarships to young guys.
[00:48:35]  This is probably like 2011, 2012, to come live in his pool house and collect his memoirs and papers and organize them.
[00:48:47]  Yeah, he probably had like two to four guys living in his backyard at the time.
[00:48:53]  Okay.
[00:48:54]  Go bye.
[00:48:56]  I mean, I'm going to hit you with the pause there, Donald Rumsfeld.
[00:48:59]  Two to three guys.
[00:49:00]  That's a classic.
[00:49:01]  I got to tell you this.
[00:49:02]  I have no idea whether this is true.
[00:49:03]  I looked up as much as I could to find out Donald Rumsfeld had any rumors of Hanky Panky perhaps tapping some toes in the motherfucking airport bathroom.
[00:49:12]  I didn't find anything there, but who knows?
[00:49:13]  Maybe that's offline.
[00:49:15]  A classic kind of like, perhaps I'll get my jellies off with some strapping young lads is when you're like working on your memoirs.
[00:49:24]  You have the boys come over.
[00:49:25]  You're like, look through these boxes.
[00:49:27]  Maybe give me a kiss.
[00:49:30]  I think he's gay.
[00:49:31]  Yeah, I'm going to go.
[00:49:32]  None of my business, but I was just, I was thinking about it after, like, just searching my mind grapes.
[00:49:37]  And I was thinking, like, I think he was kind of county.
[00:49:43]  Interesting.
[00:49:44]  Like, as a performer, like, remember, like, no knowns is so, that is so.
[00:49:53]  That seems like something like James Charles would say or something.
[00:49:57]  Yeah, being like, no knowns, known unknowns, unknown.
[00:50:00]  I'm just like, even the whole system feels very like, honey.
[00:50:07]  Like, LA gay.
[00:50:08]  Let me tell you.
[00:50:09]  Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
[00:50:11]  And I was just thinking about like his, like the way he would kind of take press conferences.
[00:50:15]  Like, he's, there's something, a little theatrical element to him.
[00:50:18]  Well, of course, the leaked sex tape with him and three dudes was what changed my mind.
[00:50:22]  You joke, but I'm being serious.
[00:50:24]  Yeah, I can see.
[00:50:24]  Listen, I'm ready for it because here's the thing that we do here on True Anon.
[00:50:28]  We open our motherfucking minds.
[00:50:30]  And I want you to open.
[00:50:32]  This is sort of a related phone call.
[00:50:33]  We kind of wanted to pair with this.
[00:50:35]  And, well, let's just play it.
[00:50:39]  Bradley Cooper gay.
[00:50:43]  Well, so let's.
[00:50:44]  Oh my God.
[00:50:45]  First of all, are you okay?
[00:50:48]  Please, if you are being held against your will.
[00:50:51]  That's all you can say.
[00:50:52]  Bradley Cooper gay.
[00:50:53]  Like, but also like, why is that Bradwick?
[00:50:56]  Oh, I don't know.
[00:50:57]  Maybe they're trying to like modulate their voice.
[00:51:00]  You didn't do a good job.
[00:51:01]  Bradley Cooper gay.
[00:51:03]  Now, I don't know if Bradley Cooper gay.
[00:51:06]  In looking at pictures of him, which I did last night to try to figure it out, I could see it absolutely.
[00:51:14]  But really, I was thinking more, I was like, well, I guess my general approach to this has always been like, well, you could just be a gay actor.
[00:51:23]  Well, we were talking about this.
[00:51:24]  Yeah.
[00:51:25]  And both of us said that.
[00:51:27]  And then we kind of like paused, no pun intended, and we're like, oh, wait, actually, you can't.
[00:51:34]  Like, because it seems like in this day and age.
[00:51:37]  You should totally be able to just be gay.
[00:51:39]  Be gay.
[00:51:40]  Be gay.
[00:51:41]  That's great.
[00:51:42]  Be gay.
[00:51:43]  And yet, who, which leading men of like Hollywood heartthrob, megastar status are openly gay?
[00:51:54]  None.
[00:51:54]  Zero.
[00:51:55]  Zilch.
[00:51:55]  I was trying to think of the most famous gay lead.
[00:51:58]  We were all trying to think of the most famous gay leading man, and nobody.
[00:52:01]  I'll come up with a rigorous thing.
[00:52:02]  And I'm not talking about gay actors.
[00:52:03]  There's plenty of gay actors.
[00:52:05]  Yeah, acting.
[00:52:05]  I'm so talking Bradley Cooper level, Oscar level.
[00:52:08]  Bradley Cooper, like, I am my, I'm in the notebook.
[00:52:12]  I can carry a Marvel movie and I'm gay.
[00:52:15]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:52:16]  The most famous gay actor I can think of is Ian McKellen.
[00:52:20]  But he's not different because he's artistic.
[00:52:22]  He's British, right?
[00:52:24]  Why did I say that all the time?
[00:52:25]  I was going to say artiste, but then it went very weird.
[00:52:29]  Realize you can't like, I mean, you haven't yet.
[00:52:33]  Like, that is kind of like why you would need a beard.
[00:52:36]  Because if you're like, if you're like a heartthrob leading man, you need that desirability or whatever that, you know, comes from taking your shirt off.
[00:52:45]  And I've never seen that notebook, coming, taking your shirt off in like a movie and having like women sort of lust after you, which is interesting because I do feel like shipping like gay sort of fantasy about two slash like two male actors is very popular.
[00:53:07]  But I feel like that for that niche, but yeah.
[00:53:09]  Niche, but like, but popular amongst people who like really, yes, a subset of people who like really lusty.
[00:53:15]  But like that's not going to be driving people's butts in the movie.
[00:53:18]  No, but because they don't want that in real life.
[00:53:20]  Right.
[00:53:21]  It's like a fantasy.
[00:53:22]  Sure.
[00:53:23]  So yeah, I think that like, I was like, well, why would he be in the closet?
[00:53:26]  But I think he would have to be in the closet.
[00:53:28]  Yeah, that's so crazy.

=== A Mojave Mystery (05:27) ===

[00:53:29]  It is.
[00:53:30]  It's crazy.
[00:53:31]  It makes me feel like kind of dumb-dumb when I walk through the logic out loud because I'm just like, oh, yeah, totally.
[00:53:38]  You really can't be gay.
[00:53:39]  And then I'm like, damn, you can't be gay.
[00:53:43]  And then it's like, is Taylor?
[00:53:45]  Well, I don't really, this goes along with my, I'm going to put Donny Rums in a different category because that's not, that's fucking Donald Rumsfeld.
[00:53:54]  But I don't love also speculating on people's sexuality publicly, I will say.
[00:54:00]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:54:01]  Just like, I don't, I don't love it as a like.
[00:54:05]  Well, I don't think that's impactful.
[00:54:06]  I don't know if that people really like, I don't, like, the Taylor Swift thing seems to be just like a weird fandom obsession.
[00:54:14]  No, no, no, no, yeah.
[00:54:14]  I'm just saying, like, in general, like, I don't, I'm not here to, like, say whether or not I think that Bradley Cooper is gay.
[00:54:20]  And I don't even want to like say, but I do think that it's good fodder for understanding that you can't be gay.
[00:54:29]  You can't be gay.
[00:54:30]  Well, that's why I wanted to include it as a man.
[00:54:32]  That was a revelation to me.
[00:54:33]  You can't be a gay leading man.
[00:54:36]  Our next one is a caller who spent some time in the desert.
[00:54:40]  Hi, Trinan.
[00:54:42]  Big fan.
[00:54:44]  A weird little thing going on that I saw in California actually on a road trip over the summer.
[00:54:52]  I was driving to the Mojave Desert and I see this crazy looking sculpture garden just in the smack in the middle of the desert.
[00:55:01]  So I had to pull over and check it out.
[00:55:03]  And I go through the case and it's a shine sign that says no communists.
[00:55:09]  And I go in and it's this like anti-Chinese Communist Party sculpture garden just in the middle of the Mojave Desert.
[00:55:21]  I looked up later called the Liberty Sculpture Park.
[00:55:24]  Really weird.
[00:55:27]  It's really bizarre.
[00:55:28]  There wasn't a single other soul in the park.
[00:55:30]  There were like security cameras everywhere.
[00:55:32]  One of the sculptures was, it was like this giant guy's head, and like it said, like woke corona mind virus or something.
[00:55:45]  And it was like, they had two versions of it there because apparently one of them had gotten burned down after they tried to build it in San Francisco.
[00:55:52]  I guess they didn't like it too much over there.
[00:55:56]  Just really weird, super weird thing.
[00:55:59]  Anyway, that's it.
[00:56:02]  Love the show.
[00:56:03]  Peace.
[00:56:05]  So I've actually had people send me stuff from Liberty Sculpture Park before.
[00:56:10]  It is in the Mojave, so I've never been there because I don't really have a desire to go to the Mojave.
[00:56:16]  I believe that's a picture of Zhijin Ping, or a sculpture of Xi Jinping with the coronavirus picture, with the little things come out of it as his head.
[00:56:29]  A lot of the, according to Atlas Obscura, because I looked this up, a lot of the sculptures were done by this guy, Chen Wei Ming.
[00:56:39]  Now, Chen Wei Ming is, it doesn't mention this in the article, but Chen Wei Ming is a sort of interesting guy because he's like one of these maybe a couple screws-loose style dissidents of which we've covered on this show before.
[00:56:55]  Thankfully, he's not rapping, but he did do something a little odd, which was go to Syria in 2011 and refer to himself as Mohammed Chen, driving around parts,
[00:57:08]  and this is quoting from the UN Refugee Agency, driving around parts of Aleppo with the FSA in one of the videos chanting Allahu Akbar and explaining that the Chinese people and Syrian people are both fighting for freedom while criticizing the Chinese government for supporting Bashar al-Assad's government.
[00:57:26]  Other videos and photos show him criticizing the Chinese government and spending time with men and children who were displaced by the fighting in Syria.
[00:57:34]  And, you know, he's like wearing like a statue of the American flag t-shirt.
[00:57:42]  And I guess he was a brief and minor participant in the Syrian civil war in 2012 and kind of came back and became this crazy sculptor.
[00:57:54]  Voice of America has several articles sort of extolling his talents.
[00:57:58]  That's so funny.
[00:57:59]  These sculptures are crazy.
[00:58:01]  I know.
[00:58:01]  They're really, it does actually look like a really fucking sick place to visit.
[00:58:05]  It does.
[00:58:05]  If you live in the Mojave Desert, you should go hang out there and also probably move because that seems a little crazy.
[00:58:12]  The coronavirus, the CCP virus too.
[00:58:15]  Yeah, he also claims, so I was reading this.
[00:58:17]  He also claims, and there were some multiple news articles about this, that he had created the statue prior, but that agents of the Chinese government had sabotaged the statue and were in fact.
[00:58:30]  I believe this is from a Voice of America article, and I'm just remembering it.
[00:58:33]  I'm not reading it out right now.
[00:58:35]  That the Chinese government was coming after him for trying to frame him for tax fraud in the U.S., which, like, looking at the Mojave sculpture thing, I'm like, I believe this guy isn't totally up on his taxes.

=== Weed Smoke and Smaller Containers (12:29) ===

[00:58:57]  Our next caller comes to us from a haze of marijuana smoke in the South Bay of California.
[00:59:05]  Hi, okay.
[00:59:06]  This is a blind item that I actually sent to Des Mois like two years ago, but it got deleted straight up within an hour because the person that I spoke about's team reached out to De Mois and told them to take it down or if they threatened to like sue or something.
[00:59:23]  I don't know.
[00:59:24]  But basically, I'm from the Bay Area, the South Bay Area, and I used to work at a dispensary in South Bay Area.
[00:59:34]  And at the time, we were like the only dispensary within like there was none on the peninsula.
[00:59:43]  If it was just San Francisco and in San Jose, that was it.
[00:59:46]  There was no Redwood City or anything like that.
[00:59:48]  Now I think there is.
[00:59:49]  But basically, people who lived in like Mountain View and all that would come to our store.
[00:59:56]  And one day, I remember it was me and my coworkers, and we were all near the front.
[01:00:03]  And two of my coworkers were checking people in.
[01:00:06]  And I was hawking some fucking product.
[01:00:09]  I don't even remember.
[01:00:10]  But I remember this guy walks in and he's wearing like the traditional tech outfit.
[01:00:18]  I mean, it was like an artery jacket and like fucking workout pants, you know.
[01:00:24]  And it was a small, smaller framed guy.
[01:00:27]  Well, not like framed, but like height-wise, he was smaller.
[01:00:31]  But he walks in, gets checked in, and my coworker looks at it and says, oh, like, welcome in.
[01:00:42]  And then says, Mark, and then says, it's basically like, sorry, I did a really shitty job of doing this, but basically it was like, oh, welcome in, Mark Zuckerberg.
[01:00:54]  And we were like losing our shit, but we didn't say anything because he was kind of like fidgety.
[01:01:03]  He's like socially awkward.
[01:01:05]  And we didn't want to provoke him.
[01:01:08]  He's kind of like a lemur.
[01:01:11]  But basically, he went around the corner to go get help.
[01:01:16]  And all of us, there's like six of us, we all peer around the corner like the fucking birdie bunch where our heads are stacked and we're staring at him.
[01:01:24]  And he's getting helped by a few people because he's getting a lot of stuff.
[01:01:29]  And like three guys.
[01:01:31]  And then basically what happened was he got three like grocery bags filled with like dabs and like not ribs or anything like that.
[01:01:43]  Like no like glass pieces.
[01:01:46]  It was like the little containers.
[01:01:48]  And for people who don't know what that is, it's like the size of a quarter.
[01:01:53]  It's definitely smaller than a ring box.
[01:01:56]  But imagine three grocery bags filled to the brim with little dab, like resin.
[01:02:05]  Part two, which was barely anything, but I'm embarrassed it took that long.
[01:02:09]  Basically, he got three grocery bags filled with containers that are smaller than like ring boxes, traditional ring boxes, with like presents.
[01:02:17]  So that basically means this man is taking straight dabs to the fucking gullet, which checks out.
[01:02:24]  And he had to, I basically had someone shaking me to help pairing it to the back of his car.
[01:02:29]  And I don't know why.
[01:02:30]  Like I said that to Dumois.
[01:02:32]  It got accepted.
[01:02:33]  And then like three days later, or like not even a day later, DeMond DM me and was like, hey, we have to delete it because they threaten legal action.
[01:02:41]  And I was like, over this?
[01:02:43]  Who gives this shit?
[01:02:44]  Obviously, the guy's high.
[01:02:47]  Anyways, love the pod.
[01:02:49]  Peace and love.
[01:02:50]  Stay safe.
[01:02:51]  Bye.
[01:02:52]  Okay.
[01:02:53]  I have a lot of initial reactions.
[01:02:56]  One, I feel like six employees at a dispensary is six too many.
[01:03:01]  Six too many.
[01:03:02]  I feel like that could be done by a robot.
[01:03:04]  That's a lot of people working at a dispensary, which I guess is kind of more of like a hang job than anything.
[01:03:12]  I've only been in one once.
[01:03:14]  Yeah.
[01:03:16]  Second reaction.
[01:03:19]  What kind of legal action did Zuckerberg's team threaten Dumois with?
[01:03:26]  Because how, like, with what?
[01:03:29]  Could have been a cease and desist.
[01:03:31]  Just a classic.
[01:03:33]  C and D. C and D, yeah.
[01:03:36]  But cease and desist what?
[01:03:38]  Listen, you're implying that my client is smoking too good of flour.
[01:03:46]  And I want to assure you that my client, Mr. Zuckerberg, smokes mids and is not that high when he's eating a 90% fat piece of steak on the street.
[01:03:59]  No, don't fucking get me started on the steaks.
[01:04:01]  What the fuck is up with those steaks, dude?
[01:04:04]  No, he's such a, he like is like feeding his cows.
[01:04:08]  Macadamia nuts.
[01:04:10]  Macadamia nut, which is literally like filler.
[01:04:13]  Like he.
[01:04:14]  What do you mean?
[01:04:15]  That's filler feed.
[01:04:17]  Filler is mad.
[01:04:18]  Like, he literally, like, he had a plot where he had these cows in Hawaii.
[01:04:24]  He's doing his fucking wigu shit.
[01:04:27]  And he is plumping these guys up with macadamia, like, like macadamia net.
[01:04:32]  He's a feeder.
[01:04:35]  And he, he literally, like tore out grass to plant macadamia trees to feed his cows like worse food, like feed them grass.
[01:04:45]  I just, and he said he's like, oh, I got this consultant.
[01:04:47]  It's like, my man, you got fucking scammed and you're being an asshole about it on fucking Instagram.
[01:04:54]  Like, you don't know fucking anything about farming.
[01:04:57]  I'll say it.
[01:04:58]  Mark Zuckerberg knows nothing about farming.
[01:05:01]  I just, I don't know.
[01:05:02]  Or beef.
[01:05:03]  Listen, I've, I've eaten some steaks in my life.
[01:05:06]  I've eaten steaks of all quality and quantity.
[01:05:09]  I've never seen a steak that looked like that.
[01:05:12]  It's also, it's bad for, yeah, because you saw how it was.
[01:05:16]  Like the fat wasn't properly like integrated into the meat because he is like fucking filling them with the shit that they can't digest.
[01:05:25]  It's like really bad for the cows.
[01:05:27]  It's just like not a way.
[01:05:28]  It looked like the whole body was foie gras.
[01:05:31]  Yeah, it's just like, and he's, and he's being a snob about it.
[01:05:35]  But here's my favorite rich person thing is like being a snob about being fucking wrong.
[01:05:39]  We didn't consider this.
[01:05:40]  Maybe he's so fucking high.
[01:05:42]  First of all, the weed is too damn strong.
[01:05:46]  So this was, didn't she say this was like years ago?
[01:05:49]  Yes.
[01:05:49]  And it's been too strong for years.
[01:05:51]  I remember the last time that I smoked weed, it was given to me by Vinny.
[01:05:56]  I'm not going to say his last name because I feel like that would be weird, but I've mentioned it on this show before.
[01:06:01]  Vinny gave it to me, weed, and it made me have a fucking freak out in the fucking little thing of our apartment building in the TL.
[01:06:08]  I flipped out.
[01:06:09]  I was hearing like, women, I was like, I can't be smoking this shit.
[01:06:14]  People are driving while smoking, flying.
[01:06:17]  Well, so, okay, questions.
[01:06:19]  I have questions.
[01:06:21]  And I want to hear what you guys think, which is, one, do you think all of this weed was for him?
[01:06:27]  Yes.
[01:06:28]  Yes, I do.
[01:06:28]  Him and his wife.
[01:06:30]  Just like stocking up?
[01:06:32]  Or do you think he was having a party?
[01:06:33]  Do you have parties with that kind of shit?
[01:06:35]  I don't understand.
[01:06:36]  Before we started recording, Young Chomsky had to explain to me like what this was because I didn't know.
[01:06:42]  Because it's like super concentrated.
[01:06:44]  You smoke weed.
[01:06:46]  I smoke.
[01:06:47]  I wish I had a fucking spotlight to shine in your motherfucking eyes right now.
[01:06:50]  I've been green.
[01:06:51]  Are you smoked up now?
[01:06:52]  No.
[01:06:53]  Do you come to work high?
[01:06:54]  No.
[01:06:54]  Not this work.
[01:06:55]  When was the last time you came here, hi?
[01:06:57]  Previous works I did.
[01:06:58]  It was like years ago when we first started.
[01:07:00]  This is when you realize that.
[01:07:02]  I forgot.
[01:07:02]  That's true.
[01:07:03]  You had to stop smoking weed work.
[01:07:04]  This work requires me to be sharp.
[01:07:05]  Like programming applications, I could show up high.
[01:07:10]  So it's like kind of intense and like crazy.
[01:07:15]  Well, the car.
[01:07:16]  So here's something that I think you might not have picked up on.
[01:07:19]  She mentions that he's not buying the – because these are for dab pens, I assume, which are like little – That's the oil.
[01:07:26]  It's a – But it's like a jewel for weed.
[01:07:28]  Yeah.
[01:07:29]  And he wasn't buying the pens.
[01:07:31]  He was only buying refill cartridges.
[01:07:33]  So he has the pens.
[01:07:35]  Or pen.
[01:07:37]  What do you think?
[01:07:38]  What his apparatus is?
[01:07:39]  You're the drug addict here.
[01:07:40]  Is there like a big rig?
[01:07:42]  That technology has – when I was coming up as a lad, we used to have these – it looked like a pencil sharpener.
[01:07:48]  It was a wooden box with a heating on it.
[01:07:50]  You had to plug it into the wall and you'd wait for it to heat up.
[01:07:53]  Hey, I remember the flowers.
[01:07:55]  And then they advanced.
[01:07:56]  And now it's all USB, which USB?
[01:07:59]  It's a USB.
[01:08:01]  I mean, that's what his thing is.
[01:08:02]  That's a jewelry.
[01:08:03]  It's so passionless.
[01:08:05]  It is funny.
[01:08:06]  It is.
[01:08:06]  That's really fucking lame.
[01:08:09]  We used to, I remember the Annihilation Time House, they would always do knife hits, and we'd always have to stand over the stove.
[01:08:15]  I didn't like weed ever in my life, but I would do it because I thought it was a novel way to do drugs.
[01:08:20]  Remember, we also smoked it out of a hash, or not a hash, excuse me, we smoked hash out of a light bulb at Skinhead Robin's house, and I smoked a weird thing that was a stick of like weed wrapped, and you had to just like hold it near your face and like inhale it from there.
[01:08:38]  I feel like plugging drugs into your computer is like, makes it like pretty lame.
[01:08:42]  Yeah.
[01:08:43]  Like that takes some, well, it's not a lot of sex appeal there.
[01:08:47]  No, I mean.
[01:08:48]  They were shaped like a breast.
[01:08:49]  I was about to say.
[01:08:50]  No, but I mean, seriously, it's like very, I guess you can kind of try to take it in a cyberpunk thing.
[01:08:55]  Smart.
[01:08:56]  But even that is feeling less and less.
[01:09:00]  Same with cigarettes.
[01:09:01]  I mean, e-sig made smoking not cool, which one would be impossible.
[01:09:07]  That would make a man brain explode anytime.
[01:09:11]  Okay, wait, but back to Mark.
[01:09:12]  So we, so you guys think, I think that, is that like a weed activity that you would enjoy with a bunch of people?
[01:09:20]  Or is it really like a crazy person's, like, I'm just hitting this pen all the time?
[01:09:24]  I think people like Mark Zuckerberg, I could see him hosting and be like, come over and enjoy some cannabis, my fine selection.
[01:09:33]  And he's got different varietals.
[01:09:35]  Or now here, okay, twist.
[01:09:37]  What about this?
[01:09:38]  What if he's like a crazy like pantry hoarder person?
[01:09:42]  I'm thinking the people who have their basement rigs or their garage rigs where they've got like, you know, if the apocalypse comes, I've got a bunch of, you know, things of Skippy and don't worry about it.
[01:09:54]  And I like kind of obsessively buy all of these things and arrange them and post Instagram stories about them.
[01:09:59]  That tracks.
[01:10:00]  You know he's that.
[01:10:02]  Bunker mode.
[01:10:03]  Maybe he was going bunker mode on it and he was like, if I need to like, when shit hits the fan and I'm in my crazy ass half sea, half space bunker that I built in New Zealand, off the coast of New Zealand, I've got bags filled of this insane weed stuff for pens.
[01:10:20]  But my question is, like, don't you have a guy?
[01:10:23]  He doesn't have a little guy to do this for him?
[01:10:26]  It feels like such a like three grocery, like, no matter if they're for a party or not, you don't want to be seen walking out of the motherfucking the flower shop with three grocery bags full of dab cartridges.
[01:10:40]  And I, and I, this is, I'll tell you this, and I've said this story on the podcast before, but I'm going to repeat it very quickly.
[01:10:46]  A long time ago, Dan RingCon and our friend Neil bought a brick of what they believed was hash from a man they described as an adventurer who came into the pizza store they worked at called RL's Pizza on 16th of Valencia.
[01:11:00]  They bought it for like $100 and it sat on the fucking table of Dan RingCon's apartment in San Francisco and they smoked it for a number of months after realizing that it was a bar of soap stamped with an AK-47, the guy said he had bought from like Afghan villagers on one of his travels.
[01:11:20]  And they justified this to me by saying that it was because the guy was kind of dressed like Indiana Jones and was old.

=== Soap Spa Mystery (15:19) ===

[01:11:27]  That's cool.
[01:11:27]  And it did look, and they continued smoking it after it had been completely acknowledged that this was some kind of just soap that they had purchased.
[01:11:36]  See, I find this very charming.
[01:11:38]  This is the sort of like charming drug story that you can't get anymore because of the internet.
[01:11:43]  My friend bought cat shit thinking it was black tar heroin in 2012.
[01:11:49]  That's sad.
[01:11:51]  Now, our final color of the day has, well, a news story that's pretty near and dear to Liz's heart.
[01:11:59]  Hi, Liz and Brace.
[01:12:01]  I love you guys.
[01:12:02]  And I really wanted Brace to know that in Atkinson, New Hampshire, they're opening up an adult baby diaper spa.
[01:12:10]  And I think he should maybe come out maybe for President's Day weekend sometime in the summer, you know, check out their services or just watch the freaks in the area.
[01:12:21]  Again, Atkinson, New Hampshire, an adult baby diaper spa.
[01:12:26]  Cheers.
[01:12:29]  I absolutely, I'm going to say right off the bat real quick, I hope you're listening.
[01:12:35]  I love the way you leaned into that adult baby diaper spa at the end.
[01:12:38]  She had really, really good, gave it your all, and I really appreciate it.
[01:12:45]  This did make some national news.
[01:12:48]  Oh, yeah.
[01:12:48]  We should say.
[01:12:50]  But this is true.
[01:12:53]  There is a diaper spa that up until yesterday.
[01:12:57]  Adult baby diaper spa.
[01:13:00]  Well, I don't think that they make diaper spas for babies.
[01:13:03]  Well, I don't know.
[01:13:04]  Maybe.
[01:13:06]  But there's an adult baby diaper lover diaper spa that was slated to open.
[01:13:16]  And unfortunately, yesterday, well, we'll get to that in a second.
[01:13:19]  But I listen, I want to make this abundantly clear.
[01:13:28]  I have no desire to wear a diaper.
[01:13:33]  I hated being a baby when I was a baby.
[01:13:35]  I was aware I was a baby and I couldn't wait to be a man to make my mark on this motherfucking world.
[01:13:41]  I have no desire to be a baby.
[01:13:43]  I have no desire to be an adult baby diaper lover.
[01:13:45]  I am just fascinated by freaks.
[01:13:49]  Okay.
[01:13:50]  The lady doth protest a little too much.
[01:13:51]  I'm not a lady or a baby.
[01:13:53]  I'm a guy.
[01:13:54]  You feel the need to say this.
[01:13:55]  I'm a man.
[01:13:56]  I think it's telling a little bit more.
[01:13:59]  And you're like being mean to me.
[01:14:01]  So, okay.
[01:14:02]  This place was supposed to be called the diaper spa.
[01:14:07]  Yes.
[01:14:08]  Which I have so many questions.
[01:14:11]  They're saying it.
[01:14:11]  They're calling it as it is.
[01:14:13]  I feel like calling it a spa is very weird.
[01:14:16]  Yes, but not.
[01:14:19]  There are weird pictures of massage tables in there.
[01:14:22]  Yeah, okay.
[01:14:23]  So a lot of, let's say, evidence of what this business was maybe initially advertising has been taken down.
[01:14:33]  Yes, they have dramatically changed the content of their website.
[01:14:37]  However, thanks to our old friends, the Wayback Machine, evidence remains.
[01:14:44]  Originally it said, we are the original one and only physician-owned diaper spa in the world.
[01:14:50]  And Dr. Murphy's knowledge, background, and experience all collectively inform her to allow for a fully immersive experience with all the benefits of exclusive experiential services such as hypnoregression, DBC, CBT, yoga, and massage.
[01:15:04]  Yeah, there's the diaper spa is an exceptional one-to-one diaper salon, age play spa, and diaper BNB for the very most discerning diaper lovers looking for the ultimate nurturing and care to safely transport them to a place and time of pampering and unparalleled indulgence.
[01:15:28]  See, I'm an undiscerning diaper lover.
[01:15:30]  I'll shit anywhere.
[01:15:31]  We are the original one and only physician-owned diaper spa in the world.
[01:15:37]  Da-da-da-da-da.
[01:15:39]  I don't know what to do with this information.
[01:15:41]  I saw this in the adult baby diaper lover read it.
[01:15:44]  I couldn't find this on the website because some of the pages didn't get archived.
[01:15:49]  That an adult baby diaper lover was saying that they charge 50.
[01:15:53]  I think they have different slang for if you pee pee in your diaper versus go number two potty in your diaper.
[01:15:59]  And which I think they say, like, I can't remember, it's like they say make a mess or something for number two.
[01:16:04]  And they're like, it's $50.
[01:16:06]  Like you can, like, the changing of the pee is included with the package, but there's like a concierge who changes your diaper if you poop.
[01:16:15]  But it's just this woman, Dr. Murphy.
[01:16:18]  So, okay, this woman, this is how this story came out.
[01:16:23]  This woman opened up this thing she called the diaper spa.
[01:16:27]  Oh, yeah.
[01:16:28]  Out of her home.
[01:16:30]  That's where do you think babies live?
[01:16:33]  And people in the town of Atkinson, New Hampshire.
[01:16:37]  Town of 7,000 people that were.
[01:16:39]  We were like, hold up.
[01:16:41]  Sorry, what did you just say you're opening?
[01:16:44]  A what kind of spa?
[01:16:45]  A diaper spa.
[01:16:46]  And so they summoned her to a like town hall meeting where she had to talk about business licensing and all this shit.
[01:16:57]  And the city was looking into approving the licensing.
[01:16:59]  And so all this stuff kind of came out about it.
[01:17:03]  Yeah.
[01:17:04]  Because there was like a change.org petition from residents.
[01:17:10]  Change money.
[01:17:11]  Change.org.
[01:17:13]  Yeah.
[01:17:16]  $50 actually.
[01:17:16]  Where they were basically like, you're saying, like, one of the things they were advertising, she was advertising on the website was like, we have lots of local playgrounds where you can come and like act out your fantasies.
[01:17:28]  And they were like, you cannot bring this fetish shit into like where children are playing.
[01:17:33]  And so that was it.
[01:17:34]  And then what's funny is like that part was taken off of the website.
[01:17:38]  And so the change.org petition was changed.
[01:17:41]  There was like a thing where they're like, okay, well, that was technically the only thing we were petitioning.
[01:17:44]  So all this other stuff, I don't know.
[01:17:46]  I'm going to back out.
[01:17:47]  Because I think people were feeling unsure of the right approach to these sort of services that quote unquote doctor, which I'll get to in a second, Murphy says that she was offering.
[01:18:02]  Because then all of the language on the website, you know, in this, she says, you know, she's talking about hypno-regression, DBT, CBD, all this stuff.
[01:18:11]  Like she started to kind of change the thing that like, no, I'm a therapist.
[01:18:14]  This is really like, she kept saying trauma-informed and causing.
[01:18:20]  Trauma-causing.
[01:18:21]  Well, to many people that are even not involved, trauma-informed approach to helping people understand their inner child.
[01:18:29]  Yes.
[01:18:29]  Now, I want to be clear.
[01:18:30]  That's not at all what I believe the ABD, I always get this mixed.
[01:18:36]  A B2.
[01:18:36]  ABDL, the ADL.
[01:18:38]  ADL.
[01:18:39]  Yeah.
[01:18:40]  The ADL community.
[01:18:41]  We never change our diapers.
[01:18:43]  Is about.
[01:18:44]  So, this is, I find it a little funny too, because I got really into reading about the adult baby diaper lover convention that I think is like this month in Chicago that sold out, by the way.
[01:18:57]  Years and years, it's sold out.
[01:18:59]  Some of the craziest, because there's no people in any of the pictures they post of past conventions because for obvious reasons.
[01:19:05]  And so, they're just like these like desolate, like adult playgrounds.
[01:19:09]  Do you guys remember when I collected all this?
[01:19:10]  It's so eerie.
[01:19:11]  In like hotel conference rooms, do you guys remember?
[01:19:14]  I sent you guys these a while ago.
[01:19:16]  I got all these adult baby diaper lover TikToks, including this one guy who has the click.
[01:19:22]  I did not click any of those.
[01:19:24]  This guy with a secret room in his house is so crazy.
[01:19:27]  Isn't there a whole okay?
[01:19:28]  I don't know if I dreamt this or if this is real.
[01:19:30]  Dreaming about this?
[01:19:31]  Isn't there a horror movie where there it I feel like it's with what's there?
[01:19:37]  Adult baby diaper lover horror movie?
[01:19:38]  Because if there is, we should fucking we can get into College.
[01:19:42]  Who's the guy who died from Fast and Furious?
[01:19:44]  Why am I forgetting this?
[01:19:45]  Paul Walker.
[01:19:46]  Paul Walker.
[01:19:46]  I feel like there's a Paul Walker horror film vehicle that features like some kind of like kidnapping story and they walk in on this like play pen.
[01:19:59]  Am I making this up?
[01:20:00]  I'm gonna watch those kind of movies.
[01:20:02]  Me neither.
[01:20:03]  And I don't know, like the plot on this Wikipedia article is way too long for me to, it's what comes up, but I can't tell.
[01:20:12]  Doesn't seem like adult baby diaper lover focus.
[01:20:15]  There's someone named Lily Sobieski in that.
[01:20:18]  That's a crazy name.
[01:20:19]  I don't know who that is.
[01:20:20]  Lily is a kind of wild name.
[01:20:21]  I think, I don't know.
[01:20:23]  But there should be, I mean, I think adult baby diaper lover.
[01:20:28]  But is it running scared?
[01:20:29]  Is rife for running scale?
[01:20:32]  Rife for a horror movie.
[01:20:34]  But the convention in Chicago is crazy because I was looking at the Reddit people talking about past experiences there too.
[01:20:40]  And they're like, yeah, all of the staff were really nice to us.
[01:20:43]  And like, you know, I prefer to stay at the hotel because you don't have to spend that much time in your street clothes.
[01:20:48]  And like, you know, messing in the room in your diaper is like forbidden.
[01:20:53]  And I just kept being like, yeah, I guess if I worked at a hotel, I would be so nice to somebody dressed like a baby.
[01:20:58]  I'd be like, oh my God, you're going to do something crazy if I'm not nice to you.
[01:21:02]  And like, what are you going to be me?
[01:21:04]  I guess you could be like, what the fuck is up with the diaper?
[01:21:07]  I'd probably say that too.
[01:21:08]  But it is at the core of all this is you're horny from pretending to be a baby and having sex.
[01:21:14]  I mean, that's not like, let's not mince words here.
[01:21:17]  That is what that is.
[01:21:19]  It's not age play is also kind of the giveaway there because you might think that age play, oh, I'm playing while pretending to be a little Lego man or whatever.
[01:21:29]  No, you're having play is in the term, like in the sense that like horny ass people say it, would mean sex.
[01:21:37]  And so you're like, I'm dick a little baby.
[01:21:39]  Let's have sex or whatever they fucking do.
[01:21:42]  And so it's like, I guess I would be like, if I'm living next to this place, I'm like, I don't know about you guys doing the baby sex here.
[01:21:50]  Well, I think that it's very odd as a small business venture.
[01:21:54]  And it's not something that like just someone who's like, how do I expand my business would like think to establish unless they were already part of the community.
[01:22:06]  Oh, this lady is, there's no fucking way that this doctor is not diaped.
[01:22:13]  Well, again, I want to put doctors in quotes because it is unclear what that term means to her.
[01:22:20]  Well, DR stands for diaper rocker.
[01:22:23]  Well, I know, but I mean literally like, I think that she calls herself, I don't think that she's a licensed doctor.
[01:22:29]  So I don't know exactly where that's coming from.
[01:22:31]  And it looked to me that a lot of the Atkinson hearings were sort of going in that road, like down that road, trying to find out like exactly what she meant by licensed.
[01:22:41]  Yeah.
[01:22:41]  She's an MD.
[01:22:42]  Many diapers.
[01:22:44]  Yeah, many diapers.
[01:22:44]  Yeah, it was interesting.
[01:22:45]  I do want to kind of like, because we've talked for a long time about doing an episode about this.
[01:22:52]  And my idea for the episode was less so, like, kind of look at these freaks.
[01:23:01]  Look at these freaks because I don't love that tact.
[01:23:04]  Because I think there's actually maybe something more interesting happening here.
[01:23:06]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:23:07]  I think that's from a psychological angle.
[01:23:09]  Yeah, because I, again, I don't know why.
[01:23:12]  I'm like sort of taking this whole, through this whole episode, but like I don't love making fun of people for whatever kind of sex.
[01:23:20]  And I don't mean in that.
[01:23:22]  I'm going to disagree with you there.
[01:23:23]  I'm going to disagree with you there.
[01:23:24]  I think it's okay to make fun of someone for wearing a diapery.
[01:23:28]  Yeah, I just don't think it's that interesting.
[01:23:30]  I think it's like low-hanging is what I'm going to say.
[01:23:33]  And I think that on Truanon and to the Truanon community, we're capable of more.
[01:23:38]  And I think that what's interesting is that this is clearly gaining more and more purchase with people.
[01:23:44]  There's something about this particular fetish as opposed to the more mainstream BDSM, the more mainstream whatever, whatever people are into.
[01:23:55]  There's something about this at this moment that is really resonating with a lot of different people.
[01:24:01]  And I find that very fascinating.
[01:24:02]  Yeah, I think to me, I'm just like, what is up here that is going on?
[01:24:09]  I mean, there's some pretty obvious angles that you could figure it out from.
[01:24:14]  But I'm just fascinated by like communities of freaks, I guess.
[01:24:19]  Like, I'm not even like, I guess you could call me a hater in the sense that I think it's weird, but like, I think lots of stuff's weird.
[01:24:26]  I'm just like, I like a community.
[01:24:29]  And so like, I like, there's lots of like freak communities that I kind of keep an eye on.
[01:24:35]  And I don't, I would agree.
[01:24:38]  I really dislike a lot of the or all of the like low cow like Chris Chan shit.
[01:24:45]  You know what I mean?
[01:24:45]  Where like people like basically harass like a single person until they lose their money.
[01:24:49]  Oh, yeah.
[01:24:49]  And like that's crazy.
[01:24:50]  Yeah.
[01:24:50]  And that's like a pretty frequent thing with like freaks on the internet.
[01:24:54]  So like I don't participate in any of that.
[01:24:56]  But I keep a private watch on many ABDL participants just because I'm fascinated by it.
[01:25:02]  Because I think for me, like one of the things that perversely attracts me to this is like, and this is true of a great deal of fetishes.
[01:25:12]  I would say one of my worst nightmares would be waking up in a hotel in Chicago surrounded by other people with poo-poo and a diaper as a 34-year-old man.
[01:25:23]  I would say that would, not my worst nightmares, but that would rank up in the top 100.
[01:25:28]  And I'm fascinated by somebody who's like, that's their greatest fantasy.
[01:25:31]  But I also, I have just so many questions.
[01:25:35]  And I want to ask if you not, I'm not going to say what you think I'm going to say.
[01:25:42]  If you have worked in a hotel where one of these conventions has happened, hit the tip line.
[01:25:48]  Because I have so many questions about like logistics and also like afterwards.
[01:25:59]  After like cleaning.
[01:26:01]  Yeah.
[01:26:01]  And just like what the situation is like.
[01:26:03]  You hose that motherfucker down.
[01:26:04]  Or if it's what if it's very, you know, different than what we might think.
[01:26:08]  Yeah.
[01:26:09]  Yeah.
[01:26:09]  I've got curiosities.
[01:26:11]  I will say that I do have a friend who accidentally stayed in a hotel when there was a furry convention happening.
[01:26:19]  Oh, yeah.
[01:26:20]  And she and her husband actually stayed in this hotel.
[01:26:23]  And she was like, we didn't know.
[01:26:25]  And like the people at the front desk were like, we're so sorry, but we have to tell you that this is going on.
[01:26:29]  Like, please don't freak out.
[01:26:30]  Like, we understand.
[01:26:31]  She was like, it's fine, whatever.
[01:26:32]  They gave him a discount or something.
[01:26:34]  And the only thing she told me about me about it, because I was like, oh my God, what?
[01:26:38]  And she just said, the smell.
[01:26:41]  Oh, yeah.
[01:26:42]  And that alone, I was like, say no more.
[01:26:45]  Say no more.

=== Cosplay and Crime (09:48) ===

[01:26:46]  Furries are almost more mysterious to me than ABDL.
[01:26:49]  Like, I'm like, still, I know there's like, it's, it's like a highly developed like subculture.
[01:26:56]  Yeah, it's like another culture.
[01:26:57]  It's like it's another thing that feels very vintage.
[01:27:00]  But it seems like there's like millions of them.
[01:27:02]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:27:03]  But it's also like almost way more popularly accepted.
[01:27:08]  Yeah, because I feel like it's kind of like related to like, it's like cosplay adjacent.
[01:27:12]  You know what I mean?
[01:27:13]  They try to make it more cosplay adjacent.
[01:27:15]  Well, I, I, when I was a kid, uh, like 15, 16, we used to hang out with these guys.
[01:27:19]  Well, I hung out with them for longer than this, but this guy is in this band called The Rotten Fucks in San Jose, and who are like crazy guys.
[01:27:26]  And they would always go every year to like, and they were like the hardest partying guys I ever met.
[01:27:31]  Like, they were the first guys I knew that smoked crack and shit.
[01:27:33]  Insane teenagers.
[01:27:36]  They would go to this science fiction like like or like nerd convention.
[01:27:43]  I don't know what kind in San Jose.
[01:27:45]  And there was, that was the first place I saw furries because you wouldn't, they wouldn't go to the convention.
[01:27:49]  They would try to just, we would just walk around the hallways and see people having hotel room parties.
[01:27:54]  And you'd end up doing like Coke with, I didn't even know what like these, I didn't know what cosplay or any of that stuff was.
[01:28:00]  And I would see people dressed in like crazy outfits in these like, and they were all like, I didn't participate in any of this, but like they were very like hornier, it was a much hornier environment than I'd ever been exposed to.
[01:28:11]  Like it was sweaty.
[01:28:13]  But I feel like in general, furries, kind of like mascot adjacents, like mascots had a very big moment in the mid, like early, mid 2010s.
[01:28:22]  Yeah.
[01:28:23]  Yeah.
[01:28:23]  But remember Kanye?
[01:28:24]  Like they're like mascots had like a really big kind of cultural moment.
[01:28:29]  Yeah.
[01:28:30]  And no, come on.
[01:28:32]  And I feel like that's like when it hit its like kind of stride.
[01:28:39]  But now it feels like more throwback.
[01:28:42]  I feel like it's just been integrated into culture now.
[01:28:44]  Like having a furry, like being, people know what a furry is.
[01:28:47]  You know what I mean?
[01:28:48]  Like it's so soon they'll know what an adult baby is.
[01:28:52]  Adult baby diaper.
[01:28:52]  Because there is, and I could, I tried to look this up last night, but then I was like, I'm just going to, I've been taking, I've been reading this book and I'm trying to take a bath a lot and read it.
[01:29:02]  Nothing to do with adult baby diaper lover, but I didn't do that so I could do that.
[01:29:05]  You know who's takes baths.
[01:29:06]  What?
[01:29:07]  You know who else takes baths?
[01:29:08]  Who?
[01:29:09]  Babies.
[01:29:09]  Babies?
[01:29:10]  Do they?
[01:29:11]  Wait, really?
[01:29:13]  Because I do, but I got the binky on in there.
[01:29:16]  I'm sucking that motherfucker like a nipple mouse.
[01:29:19]  Anyways, I was, there's a, there's a brick and mortar diaper store for adults somewhere.
[01:29:24]  And I also follow this like influencer diaper couple on Instagram.
[01:29:29]  And like, I don't really use Instagram that much, but like when I'll like repost their like things and people will get so mad at it.
[01:29:38]  Just stop doing that.
[01:29:40]  It's just like, it's like a skater guy with tattoos with a diapey on.
[01:29:43]  It's so funny.
[01:29:45]  Because they're like, they're like kind of like 2013 style like hipster influencer people, but they're in diapers.
[01:29:52]  I just think it's funny.
[01:29:55]  Anyways, so I guess our weekend's plans are canceled.
[01:29:59]  We're not going to Atkinson.
[01:30:03]  If you guys know more about anything we discussed today, or if now this has given you inspiration and you're like, oh, wait, maybe I do have a little hot tip.
[01:30:14]  Maybe I do have a little gossip.
[01:30:15]  Maybe I do have a question about skincare routines, chemical peels, lasers, different augmentations that perhaps Liz would know about.
[01:30:27]  Hit the tip line.
[01:30:28]  Hit the tip line.
[01:30:29]  Hit the tip line because this is my new favorite thing we're doing because I had so much fun just talking shit with you.
[01:30:34]  Yeah, this was a fun little episode.
[01:30:38]  Yeah, well, with that being said.
[01:30:41]  My name is Boyce, and I'm Fu.
[01:30:44]  Wait.
[01:30:45]  You're Fui?
[01:30:46]  I'm Faua.
[01:30:47]  Oh, I'm Foa.
[01:30:51]  My name is Fi.
[01:30:51]  You're like, what?
[01:30:52]  A Southern baby.
[01:30:53]  My name is Boyce.
[01:30:54]  I just came out the womb yesterday and oh, it's so bright of you in the yellow sun.
[01:31:00]  Hosh, how shall I say?
[01:31:02]  I think I might have made a little mess of some lemonade down the front of my diaper.
[01:31:08]  Would you be so kind to fetch me a silk handkerchief that I might dab myself dry?
[01:31:15]  I'm just a little baby.
[01:31:16]  I just came into this world.
[01:31:17]  I'm only four years old.
[01:31:19]  I came out the womb because my mother decided that I needed some more nutrients from inside her uterus.
[01:31:24]  And I was so.
[01:31:25]  I don't think you know how any of that works.
[01:31:27]  Well, of course I don't.
[01:31:28]  I'm just a baby.
[01:31:29]  I haven't been to school yet.
[01:31:31]  But I heard it's hard.
[01:31:32]  Do you think that they have bathrooms there?
[01:31:34]  Because I don't need one.
[01:31:37]  Young house of cards.
[01:31:39]  Just now, I'm just imagining Lindsey Graham as an adult baby.
[01:31:42]  He would be so good.
[01:31:43]  There has to be.
[01:31:44]  Who do you think the most famous adult baby is?
[01:31:48]  I got to be a politician or something like that.
[01:31:50]  Oh, my God.
[01:31:51]  That's such a good question.
[01:31:52]  Because also is, and let me ask you this.
[01:31:54]  I mean, Mitt Robney, but he already wears basically diaper.
[01:31:57]  That's different.
[01:31:57]  That's different.
[01:31:58]  They got their own shit going on.
[01:32:00]  Totally.
[01:32:00]  But also, think about this.
[01:32:02]  The famous, like, I've been bad.
[01:32:06]  Spank me kind of guys.
[01:32:07]  Like, is that adult?
[01:32:08]  That's not adult baby.
[01:32:10]  It's like PDSM, but you're just on the flip side.
[01:32:12]  I know, but if you're like, mama, or whatever, I've been bad, like, you're kind of being a baby, but you know what?
[01:32:17]  No, but I feel like when we say adult baby diaper lover, first of all, the diaping is key.
[01:32:24]  So that's such a good question.
[01:32:26]  Here's another thing.
[01:32:26]  Do you think any member of Congress is wearing a diaper right now?
[01:32:30]  Absolutely!
[01:32:31]  Members of.
[01:32:32]  Do you think Nancy Blues isn't wearing a diaper diaper?
[01:32:33]  No, no, no, but I mean in a sexual way, not in a like, I'm an old person way.
[01:32:37]  Well, I don't know because sometimes I would say that Feinstein would be your best bet because when you have dementia, sometimes you get really weirdly horny.
[01:32:46]  And so it could have been like, there could have been a sweet spot comedy.
[01:32:49]  Oh, but no, no, no, but you know what I mean.
[01:32:51]  You know what I mean?
[01:32:54]  I do feel like Santos was probably our best bet.
[01:32:56]  I was probably a good bet.
[01:32:58]  But I feel like he's probably like very like cut and dry.
[01:33:01]  Yeah.
[01:33:02]  You know what I mean?
[01:33:04]  Like he doesn't have time to mess around with it.
[01:33:05]  Because he's a showman on the outside.
[01:33:06]  He's a shower on the outside.
[01:33:08]  He probably has like Santos probably has a pretty low body count, if you know what I mean.
[01:33:12]  He doesn't have time for all that.
[01:33:13]  Interesting.
[01:33:13]  He's trying to get a check in a very roundabout way.
[01:33:17]  How do you know if any members of Congress are dyped up?
[01:33:19]  Hit the tip line.
[01:33:20]  Hit the tip line.
[01:33:21]  Or even just local legislation.
[01:33:22]  It's such a good exercise.
[01:33:23]  Who would be the most famous diaper lover?
[01:33:26]  I'm going to say it was probably some weird like 50s like actor, you know, like a like.
[01:33:32]  Like there's an old timey, like there's you know some podcast is like we uncovered the crazy story of how our southern baby podcasty, Rex Harrison no one knows or remembers was actually a like a very intense diaper lover and you know, Scarlett Thornberg was, I don't know whatever she was his, she was his and then it's gonna be like a Ryan Murphy,
[01:34:02]  but like, if it's held together with a safety, like a giant old and somehow there's like a you know kind of murder angle, so it's like a Hollywood murder diaper about any vintage shit.
[01:34:13]  I'm sick of that.
[01:34:14]  I want to know right now at this moment who never heard your voice print like that.
[01:34:19]  Who's the most famous motherfucker out there?
[01:34:22]  Yes, who's pee peeing in that diaper?
[01:34:24]  Who's the most famous diaped up person?
[01:34:27]  Anyone knows the diapers?
[01:34:29]  And let me tell you, with Biden's Economy, the adbl subreddits complaints about diaper adult baby, diaper lover cost.
[01:34:38]  Oh, it's out of control.
[01:34:40]  That's funny Biden, bring that down.
[01:34:41]  You can bring a key demographic in or the FED keep raising rates and let's get rid of this thing.
[01:34:48]  My question yes, but my other question, sorry, we're gonna sign off, but my other question is, we're just doing whatever.
[01:34:53]  My question is this, are there people who want to be really old in this same kind of way, you know what I mean.
[01:35:02]  Who are like oh, i'm just a withered old grandma, so it's like adult, elder baby, oh wait, adult elder diaper lover.
[01:35:13]  Yeah, like frail elder diaper lover.
[01:35:15]  You find those people in the menswear community really who are like people Hellby will get up every day and dress up like an old man yeah, I know, but like.
[01:35:22]  Who are like, uh, oh my, can you fetch my cane for me?
[01:35:27]  I don't know, I don't think so because I think that like, that time of your, of everyone's life is not associated with any kind of like sexual, but it's wrong, highly erotic.
[01:35:37]  The villages in Florida, i'm still trying to rack my brain about famous diapers.
[01:35:42]  I'm thinking like, do you think someone at the Oscars was wearing a diaper?
[01:35:48]  And not for like reasons of like oh, this makes it easier, you don't have to deal with it, doing it.
[01:35:54]  I don't think so.
[01:35:55]  That's interesting.
[01:35:57]  And not De Niro himself maybe, but like a guy like that, I feel like this is a young man's fetish.
[01:36:03]  Well, I could yeah yeah well yeah, because then you get into the point where you're like wearing it in De Niro's age.
[01:36:09]  You're like you may be needed.
[01:36:10]  Yeah, totally like.
[01:36:11]  I feel like we're not talking about like depends time.
[01:36:13]  No, I know that, I know that, I know that, but there is a part of me that's like, do you think Newsom could dabble in it?
[01:36:22]  And yet I get in trouble for speculating here.
[01:36:25]  I think Newsom, I don't think Newsom.
[01:36:28]  Newsome is like doing some weird psycho shit.
[01:36:32]  It's like late, like skin-tight latex.

=== Newsom's Weird Psycho Shit (00:56) ===

[01:36:34]  He's coming out of like a, like a makes his wife or something.
[01:36:38]  Yeah.
[01:36:39]  And it's like fucking murdering.
[01:36:40]  He just has the Getty's all pee in a jar and he has to flowers he planted in it or something.
[01:36:45]  Totally.
[01:36:46]  Oh.
[01:36:47]  Freak.
[01:36:48]  Yeah.
[01:36:49]  They've done unspeakable things to that man throughout his life.
[01:36:52]  And he's welcomed it.
[01:36:53]  And he's welcomed it.
[01:36:54]  He's loved every second.
[01:36:56]  Can't wait till he's our fucking president.
[01:36:58]  My name is Brace.
[01:37:01]  I'm Liz.
[01:37:02]  We are, of course, as always, joined by producer Young Chomsky.
[01:37:05]  And this has been True Anon.
[01:37:09]  We'll see you next time.
[01:37:10]  Bye-bye.
[01:37:30]  Come in.
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