True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 271: Disney Men
Aired: 2023-02-24
Duration: 01:01:37


=== Bachelor Confusion (05:05) ===

[00:00:00]  So I watched an episode of The Bachelor last night.
[00:00:02]  You did?
[00:00:03]  Yeah.
[00:00:03]  Wait.
[00:00:05]  Okay, Bachelor.
[00:00:06]  So it's The Bachelor.
[00:00:07]  I always, this is very stupid, but I get The Bachelor and The Bachelor at confused.
[00:00:11]  Well, they're both of them.
[00:00:12]  There are bachelors and bachelorettes on kind of both.
[00:00:14]  They're all bachelors and stuff.
[00:00:15]  I know.
[00:00:15]  It takes me a moment to say, okay, it's The Bachelor.
[00:00:17]  That means one guy lots girls.
[00:00:18]  This was just The Bachelor.
[00:00:19]  Okay.
[00:00:20]  It's the latest season.
[00:00:22]  In fact, the latest episode.
[00:00:23]  They go to London.
[00:00:25]  I got to tell you, I never really watched this show before.
[00:00:28]  I had a moment where I did, yes.
[00:00:30]  These chicks were crying, I would say 80% of the show.
[00:00:36]  Is it always like this?
[00:00:38]  Yeah, but obviously I think the performance has increased as the notoriety and fame of being a contestant and the seasons has increased.
[00:00:49]  I would say it's probably exponential in growth.
[00:00:51]  Well, it was wild to me because I was like, this guy, this bachelor, who doesn't even spend much time with, by the way, does not appear to actually interact with these women very much.
[00:01:00]  Although, fair enough, he had COVID, actually, in this episode.
[00:01:04]  Oh, twist.
[00:01:06]  People were not happy about that.
[00:01:07]  A lot of women crying that he had COVID because they couldn't go on a group date with him.
[00:01:10]  That's why they were crying.
[00:01:11]  That's why they were crying.
[00:01:12]  Interesting.
[00:01:14]  And they were just crying because they're in London.
[00:01:16]  I think they're jet lagged.
[00:01:17]  And they also kept calling London a city famous for romance, which I don't think actually is what really.
[00:01:23]  I think they're thinking of Paris.
[00:01:25]  Right.
[00:01:26]  London to me.
[00:01:27]  London is not what I would say.
[00:01:28]  You're not really swept off your feet by going to London.
[00:01:31]  No, unless you're like a chimney sweeper.
[00:01:33]  Exactly.
[00:01:34]  Or perhaps like, yeah, yeah, and then you meet a woman.
[00:01:37]  She's actually the princess.
[00:01:38]  Or swept off your feet by Bubby.
[00:01:41]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:01:42]  But anyway, so these chicks crying 100% of the time.
[00:01:47]  It's pathetic.
[00:01:48]  The guy is like, I just miss my girls so much.
[00:01:51]  And that got me thinking.
[00:01:53]  There is a huge amount of room in the reality TV show market for a different kind of bachelor.
[00:02:01]  Oh, no.
[00:02:01]  A bachelor that's maybe not 6'4.
[00:02:04]  I don't know.
[00:02:05]  Maybe a good 16, 17 inches, actually shorter than that.
[00:02:09]  I don't think this is a good idea.
[00:02:11]  And I just think that maybe there needs to be like a bachelor that doesn't actually inspire women to cry, but in fact to laugh.
[00:02:22]  Oh, my God.
[00:02:23]  And to smile.
[00:02:25]  And it's me.
[00:02:50]  So actually, really what I'm saying here is my thing is I actually want to do create a reality TV show where it's braces hoes.
[00:02:56]  And I'm sort of like, it's okay.
[00:02:58]  No?
[00:02:59]  All right.
[00:02:59]  Like a Charlie's Angels sort of situation.
[00:03:01]  Like a Charlie's Angel sort of thing.
[00:03:02]  And it's like played exactly like The Bachelor, except that the men have to refer to the women as the host.
[00:03:08]  And so it's just really, really rough on that.
[00:03:11]  Yeah, this is really bad.
[00:03:12]  Yeah, no one wants to put this out.
[00:03:14]  And he is girl fucker.
[00:03:16]  Okay.
[00:03:17]  What?
[00:03:18]  Yeah.
[00:03:19]  You know, I know someone who I shan't name, but who you also know.
[00:03:24]  And you whose sister auditioned for The Bachelorette and Bachelor several, more than several times, we'll say.
[00:03:35]  More than, is it a guy or a girl that did this?
[00:03:37]  A gal.
[00:03:38]  A gal that did this?
[00:03:40]  And actually, I ended up going to her wedding.
[00:03:42]  She did not get cast on the show, but I did go to her wedding and it was on a plane.
[00:03:45]  Did they fuck The Bachelor?
[00:03:48]  There is, yeah, no, that's like definitely a plot line towards the end.
[00:03:52]  And usually towards the end, although in some seasons, it's happened a bit earlier than I think some producers would have liked.
[00:03:59]  I don't want to be The Bachelor.
[00:04:00]  I want to be the host.
[00:04:01]  And I want to just be kind of really.
[00:04:03]  What's his name?
[00:04:04]  He was a former bachelor.
[00:04:06]  I was about to call him Chris Hansen, but that's not him.
[00:04:08]  He just got that vibe.
[00:04:09]  He got so seriously that it made me.
[00:04:11]  Sarah said, duh.
[00:04:12]  He was just like.
[00:04:13]  Oh my God.
[00:04:13]  Sorry.
[00:04:14]  Sorry, guys and gals.
[00:04:15]  The girls are all crying in a room and he comes out and he's like, hey, some really hard news.
[00:04:20]  It's incredible that this is the first time that you've taken.
[00:04:22]  We're doing some real like 2008 comedy hours.
[00:04:25]  As COVID.
[00:04:26]  Zach, I think his name is.
[00:04:28]  Oh, yeah.
[00:04:29]  This is a new.
[00:04:29]  It's not Chris Harrison.
[00:04:31]  And the girls just immediately buffed it.
[00:04:34]  They still give that the rose, though, right?
[00:04:35]  They did give it our rose.
[00:04:36]  I couldn't figure out, but so if you don't get a rose, you got to go home.
[00:04:39]  Yeah.
[00:04:40]  They should yank them off with a shepherd's crook.
[00:04:43]  Sure.
[00:04:43]  The cane, the old cane.
[00:04:45]  Yeah.
[00:04:45]  And then put them, and then they should make them, they should take them somewhere nice.
[00:04:49]  You know?
[00:04:50]  You should like take them to the house.
[00:04:51]  I think they're in like Agora Hills or something.
[00:04:52]  No, they were in London.
[00:04:53]  The city room was the house.
[00:04:55]  Oh, yeah.
[00:04:56]  It's like somewhere in the valley.
[00:04:57]  I lived there for a while with all these 19-year-old boys kind of making content and stuff like that.
[00:05:02]  And let me tell you, a lot of crazy shit happens in that.
[00:05:04]  Hello, everyone.
[00:05:05]  Hello.

=== Patreon Predictions (05:16) ===

[00:05:06]  I'm Liz.
[00:05:06]  My name is Brace.
[00:05:09]  And of course, we are joined by Bachelor Young Chomsky.
[00:05:12]  And this is Truanon.
[00:05:13]  Hello, everyone.
[00:05:14]  Welcome.
[00:05:14]  Hello.
[00:05:15]  Now, I have a little bit of an announcement myself.
[00:05:19]  I'm sorry.
[00:05:20]  I'm surprising you here.
[00:05:22]  But I got to get something off my chest.
[00:05:23]  Is The Bachelor?
[00:05:24]  No, it has nothing to do with that.
[00:05:27]  But I do, so we just did a little run of live shows, right?
[00:05:34]  And when we were doing that, a bunch of female types and we'll say homosexual male types came up to me.
[00:05:43]  Hello out there.
[00:05:44]  And saying how much they appreciated, like, when I would like, like tips, recommendations, like certain little things that they felt like, or maybe a little nod to their sensibilities, we'll say.
[00:05:58]  And that was very sweet and cute, and I really appreciate it.
[00:06:01]  But also, it made me think, got me thinking, oh my God, I haven't done that in a while.
[00:06:06]  So I want to do a little Liz recommendation.
[00:06:11]  I don't know.
[00:06:11]  It's like my algorithm has something to recommend because I have recently added something to my daily routine that I can't recommend enough.
[00:06:24]  What is it?
[00:06:25]  You're going to make fun of this.
[00:06:26]  Okay.
[00:06:27]  But just wait.
[00:06:28]  So now my favorite astrologer has started a Patreon.
[00:06:40]  No, I know it sounds ridiculous.
[00:06:41]  And I'm not here to.
[00:06:42]  Are you shilling an astrologer's Patreon on our here?
[00:06:47]  Got to be clear.
[00:06:47]  Liz did not clear this with me.
[00:06:49]  Go ahead, Liz.
[00:06:50]  Go ahead.
[00:06:50]  Listen, I don't, there's a lot of astrologers out there that I think are real bogus bunk.
[00:06:57]  Uh-huh.
[00:06:58]  But this woman.
[00:06:59]  This one's real, though.
[00:07:00]  It's not about being real.
[00:07:02]  This one is the coziest of the cozies.
[00:07:05]  Okay.
[00:07:05]  Her name is Ann Ortley.
[00:07:07]  She's fantastic.
[00:07:08]  Uh-huh.
[00:07:09]  Virgo, which everyone knows is the coziest sign.
[00:07:12]  What's your house?
[00:07:13]  Now, that doesn't even make sense.
[00:07:15]  But here's what I'm going to say.
[00:07:16]  She has been doing this thing for a very long time called The Weekly Weather, which I always listen to, obviously, which is a podcast, weekly, Sunday nights, where she kind of goes through the week of transits and kind of lets you know what's going on with the energy.
[00:07:30]  Now, what she started is a daily, like 10-minute.
[00:07:38]  Yeah.
[00:07:38]  Please don't roll your eyes.
[00:07:39]  I'm not rolling your eyes.
[00:07:40]  My head, to be clear to listeners, my head, I was pressing my forehead against my face and closing my eyes.
[00:07:45]  I'm telling you, it's, I can't remember what it's called.
[00:07:48]  My hand against my forehead.
[00:07:49]  It's like 10 minutes a day.
[00:07:50]  I listen to it every morning on my way to the gym.
[00:07:52]  I love it.
[00:07:54]  She's so cozy.
[00:07:54]  I'm telling you, you listen to this woman's voice.
[00:07:56]  No.
[00:07:57]  Yes.
[00:07:58]  And it's just like, it's great.
[00:07:59]  You learn about like what the energy is for the day, what's going on in the skies.
[00:08:03]  You know, sometimes she throws in a little political talk, which I got to say, I don't love it.
[00:08:07]  You know, stick to sports lady.
[00:08:08]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:08:09]  But she's the one who put out that newsletter that I sent you the quote that was like, this is great energy for Biden and Selinsky.
[00:08:17]  Yeah.
[00:08:18]  You did something.
[00:08:18]  She sometimes talks about like Trump's taxes, things like that.
[00:08:20]  Things of that nature.
[00:08:21]  However, I got to say, I love it.
[00:08:27]  I support her on Patreon.
[00:08:30]  I really recommend it.
[00:08:31]  I think it's, you know, how, okay, so I was thinking about this because you know how with effective altruism, their whole thing is like you judge everything by the highest good or what it's going to lead.
[00:08:44]  And it's like, it's totally crazy.
[00:08:45]  Oh, yeah.
[00:08:45]  So I do that, but with coziness.
[00:08:49]  And I'm telling you, this lady is one of the coziest of cozies.
[00:08:54]  I'm signing up immediately.
[00:08:56]  The thing you ought to do, though, this is actually a real tip.
[00:08:59]  She sends way too many emails because she uploads like a song of the day, too.
[00:09:03]  So you get like three emails in the morning, which is very annoying.
[00:09:07]  So what you do is you make sure you unsubscribe from the emails so you don't get those, but then you just listen every day.
[00:09:13]  You're telling this to me as if I'm going to listen to this.
[00:09:16]  You should.
[00:09:16]  I'm not going to.
[00:09:17]  She's so cozy.
[00:09:18]  That should be.
[00:09:19]  I'm going to be real with you guys here and now.
[00:09:22]  I know everyone thinks I'm magic.
[00:09:23]  Magic should be a crime.
[00:09:24]  It's not magic.
[00:09:25]  It is literally mad.
[00:09:26]  It's star magic.
[00:09:27]  No, it isn't.
[00:09:28]  It's just about talking about the transits of the planet.
[00:09:32]  Okay.
[00:09:32]  That's not magic.
[00:09:33]  That's literally.
[00:09:34]  It is augury.
[00:09:35]  Thank you.
[00:09:36]  It's augury.
[00:09:37]  Augury should be a crime.
[00:09:38]  Attempting to tell the future should be a crime.
[00:09:42]  And one day it will be.
[00:09:43]  And I guess if I got to give my idea for my version of The Bachelor, it's okay for you to do this too.
[00:09:50]  Yeah, you know, you know, I'm fully biodynamic, man.
[00:09:54]  I'm all in this shit.
[00:09:57]  This is, this is, I got to tell you, this is crazy that Liz did this.
[00:10:01]  But now I have to show a Patreon that I just.
[00:10:05]  Is it called TrueNA?
[00:10:06]  Well, it's just called, it's just, it's called The Brace Show.
[00:10:10]  And it's like sort of like, it's like me and my producer, Jan Chomsky, and there's just kind of like no astrology stuff in there.
[00:10:16]  It's just kind of like just the facts.
[00:10:18]  And so it's actually true and on episodes just with Liz completely edited out of it.

=== Jess Staley And Epstein Emails (14:55) ===

[00:10:22]  Yeah.
[00:10:22]  You've just fully remade the set.
[00:10:26]  There's no one replacing you.
[00:10:27]  It's just...
[00:10:28]  Is there a guy named who's dating Amrata?
[00:10:31]  Eric Andre.
[00:10:32]  Yeah, I believe Eric Eric Andre's set.
[00:10:35]  Judging by her text messages to me, they are not together anymore.
[00:10:38]  You spent thousands and thousands of dollars remaking the set.
[00:10:42]  That's the come town.
[00:10:43]  No, that was the joke that I was making.
[00:10:45]  I see.
[00:10:46]  But I'm glad we just.
[00:10:47]  Let's start the fucking show.
[00:10:48]  Hello, everyone.
[00:10:49]  Hello.
[00:10:50]  Welcome to Come Town.
[00:10:55]  So, all right.
[00:10:56]  What are we talking about, Liz?
[00:10:58]  Okay.
[00:10:59]  News alert.
[00:11:02]  We haven't done that one in a while.
[00:11:03]  Did we ever do that?
[00:11:04]  Yeah.
[00:11:05]  Okay.
[00:11:05]  Fair enough.
[00:11:06]  Fair enough.
[00:11:07]  You don't have to do that.
[00:11:08]  To be clear, listeners also, I do have pneumonia right now.
[00:11:12]  Yeah, he's on the menu.
[00:11:14]  Antibiotics have been working, but I do have it.
[00:11:15]  So Liz is taking advantage of my weakened state.
[00:11:18]  You just said you're feeling great.
[00:11:19]  I feel better.
[00:11:20]  I'm better.
[00:11:20]  I'm not feeling.
[00:11:21]  I am eating all meat.
[00:11:22]  Yeah.
[00:11:23]  That's what you heard.
[00:11:25]  Wee, wee, wee.
[00:11:26]  Okay, so as we were out and a boot in Canada, new emails surfaced between Jess Staley, which is, yes, and then a man's name, and Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:11:42]  You remember that guy?
[00:11:43]  Now, Jess Staley is, of course, the former JP Morgan Chase executive who afterwards he went to Barclays.
[00:11:50]  He had to resign like shortly after Epstein's death.
[00:11:55]  Yeah.
[00:11:56]  Bank looked into his activities with Epstein and we're like, you know, we're good.
[00:11:59]  Gotta get out of here.
[00:12:00]  We can find another one.
[00:12:01]  Yeah, he has a pretty big, big name, big wig.
[00:12:03]  Him and what's his name from Apollo?
[00:12:08]  Oh, Leon Black.
[00:12:09]  Yeah, Leon Black.
[00:12:10]  There we go, of course.
[00:12:11]  Those were some of the big names who got kind of lost in the Epstein sauce with this stuff.
[00:12:18]  And I got to say, the emails are pretty gross.
[00:12:22]  I want to like, so there's something, we don't have all the emails yet.
[00:12:25]  No.
[00:12:26]  I've been looking far and wide for them, talk to people who would know where to get them.
[00:12:29]  They say that they're not out yet.
[00:12:30]  All we know is what's in these in this, that has been reported, basically.
[00:12:36]  If you're going to talk in code on an email, don't make the code so obvious that it actually looks more suspicious than just saying a name.
[00:12:45]  So what are you referring to?
[00:12:46]  Should we read this?
[00:12:48]  Yeah.
[00:12:48]  Okay.
[00:12:49]  So at one point, Jeff Staley, again, somehow a man's name.
[00:12:55]  Man, I don't know.
[00:12:56]  Sounds like, that's like a labor MP's name.
[00:12:58]  It does.
[00:13:00]  Is emailing Jeffrey Epstein and says, that was fun.
[00:13:04]  Say hi to Snow White.
[00:13:07]  Jeffrey Epstein responds with, what character would you like next?
[00:13:13]  Jeff Staley says, beauty and the beast.
[00:13:16]  And though this isn't written down, I have it memorized.
[00:13:19]  Jeffrey Epstein responds with something like, well, only one side is available, which would, of course, I assume be beauty.
[00:13:28]  Yeah, it would be really crazy if he was talking about the beast.
[00:13:30]  Yeah.
[00:13:31]  Yeah.
[00:13:31]  Dog fun.
[00:13:32]  You learn a lot of new things about that.
[00:13:33]  Yeah.
[00:13:34]  Well, we could do an episode on that.
[00:13:35]  So all this came out in a filing that was made by the U.S. Virgin Islands in support of a class action civil suit, which was filed against the bank, JP Morgan Chase.
[00:13:46]  And I got to say, they make a pretty compelling case.
[00:13:49]  Most of this centers around Jeff Staley.
[00:13:53]  Again, at that time when he was writing these emails, he was the head of private banking at JP Morgan.
[00:13:59]  He managed almost all of Epstein's accounts, or as the U.S. Virgin Islands puts it, managed Epstein.
[00:14:06]  Yes.
[00:14:09]  He was at JP Morgan Chase for like 30 years, like career banker there, pretty big wig.
[00:14:18]  Staley came out when, you know, after Epstein killed himself, quote unquote, Staley came out and said that, oh, our relationship ended, you know, when I left JP Morgan in 2013.
[00:14:32]  But of course, not so, not obviously the case.
[00:14:35]  He actually ended up visiting Little St. James in as late as 2015 that we know of.
[00:14:40]  So they were actually like beyond tight.
[00:14:44]  I mean, listen, I've never had a private banker.
[00:14:49]  In fact, I've actually had some rude interactions, not on my part, from the teller at certain.
[00:14:57]  Even some VTMs talk back to you.
[00:14:59]  They do.
[00:14:59]  They spit out a bunch of notes that say, you think you have money in here?
[00:15:04]  You're wrong.
[00:15:07]  This is crazy how close this guy.
[00:15:09]  Jeffrey Epstein was actually advising Jess Staley on actually how to get a raise at work.
[00:15:17]  The U.S. Virgin Islands characterizes their relationship as, quote, profound and writes in its complaint that these communications suggest that Staley may have been involved in Epstein's sex trafficking operation.
[00:15:31]  Which is a pretty bold claim.
[00:15:32]  Pretty fucking bold claim because that has always been some bits floated around a lot of the sort of bigwigs that had been involved in this.
[00:15:40]  Wexner, Leon Black, but there's never been any, as far as I know, official actual like, any put forth by something like the Attorney General of the U.S. Virgin Islands that these people were actively involved.
[00:15:56]  But the thing is, there's some pretty damning evidence here.
[00:15:59]  This is from the lawsuit.
[00:16:00]  It says, on December 30th, 2008, Epstein and Staley discussed via emails Staley's visit to Epstein's residence in Palm Beach.
[00:16:08]  Epstein wrote that he would not be home the following Sunday, but that Staley was welcome to use the house.
[00:16:13]  Staley replied that he would instead make arrangements to visit Epstein in Palm Beach in early January.
[00:16:18]  On January 8th, 2009, around the time of Staley's scheduled visit to Palm Beach, Epstein wired $2,000 from his JPMorgan account to a woman with an Eastern European surname.
[00:16:29]  Those words, Eastern European surname, appear quite a few times in the suit.
[00:16:34]  Yeah.
[00:16:35]  There's also a bunch of redacted photos that Epstein apparently emailed Staley.
[00:16:43]  This is, by the way, this is not Staley's personal account.
[00:16:45]  This was his professional, his like JPMorgan account.
[00:16:48]  Yeah.
[00:16:49]  And I think it should be presumed, and the U.S. Virgin Islands says this point blank in their suit, that JPMorgan absolutely was monitoring these accounts.
[00:16:58]  I mean, it's a fucking huge bank.
[00:16:59]  They're reading all of the monitoring all their employees' emails.
[00:17:02]  They got a guy doing that.
[00:17:03]  Yeah, Epstein and Staley over the course of Staley's tenure at JPMorgan, I mean, they exchanged like over a thousand emails.
[00:17:11]  To be clear, for those of you who are not familiar with Monsieur Jeffrey Epstein, he was like, Jeffrey Epstein in 2008 was a convicted sex trafficker.
[00:17:22]  Like known to the world as one.
[00:17:25]  And so almost all like all of these missives and back and forth between them concerning these women happen post-conviction.
[00:17:33]  Yeah, this is from Jane Doe 1's complaint against JPMorgan, again, which is the memo that the U.S. Virgin Islands filed that's in support of this case.
[00:17:45]  They write, to put it plainly, Epstein needed a bank that knew he was engaging in illegal activity and did not care which Epstein had in JPMorgan.
[00:17:55]  So this Jane Doe 1 has actually filed two separate suits.
[00:17:59]  She filed one against JP Morgan Chase and then one against Deutsche, which was of course Jeffrey's bank after he left JP Morgan.
[00:18:06]  Both banks are trying to get them dismissed.
[00:18:11]  The New York State Department of Financial Service actually got Deutsche to pay $150 million penalty for failure to scrutinize any of Epstein's activity, like banking activity.
[00:18:23]  That included him taking out 200K in cash per year from his Deutsche account.
[00:18:29]  He's a big cash guy.
[00:18:30]  Yeah, but I mean, that would be, as, you know, we're going to talk about like the failure of Chase to really monitor any of this stuff.
[00:18:38]  I mean, that would be like the biggest red flag for any internal regulator, right?
[00:18:44]  When they're looking at what is going on with accounts.
[00:18:47]  Yes, yeah, absolutely.
[00:18:48]  I mean, this is the thing is like, I still use cash and people make fun of me for it.
[00:18:53]  Not $200,000 in cash a year.
[00:18:55]  That's a lot of cash.
[00:18:56]  I'm like, what do you even spend that much cash on?
[00:18:58]  Oh, well, I guess Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:19:00]  He's trafficking women.
[00:19:02]  Yeah, I guess that does make sense.
[00:19:04]  But so, like I said, he left JPMorgan for Deutsche in 2013.
[00:19:07]  And I was looking at that and I was like, you know, I genuinely don't know why Epstein had to leave JPMorgan.
[00:19:14]  And then you're looking at it in these complaints and it's, oh, Jess Staley left JPMorgan in 2013.
[00:19:20]  And it's in that year that JPMorgan terminated its relationship with Epstein.
[00:19:26]  Yeah, I mean, here's the thing.
[00:19:27]  And again, I do not want to repeat myself too much here, but JPMorgan was fully aware of Jeffrey Epstein's, the accusations against Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:19:40]  And everyone from Jess Staley to Jamie Dimon knew about this.
[00:19:43]  I mean, Epstein was a big client of JP Morgan.
[00:19:48]  He was not treated in the way that I think he was legally supposed to be treated or even internally within JPMorgan's own rules supposed to be treated as a high-risk client.
[00:20:00]  Yes.
[00:20:02]  You mentioned Jamie Dimon, and I want to talk about that.
[00:20:05]  It does seem clear from these filings that Jamie Dimon absolutely knew and was aware of Epstein's high-risk activity.
[00:20:21]  There's an internal email after the 2008 arrest.
[00:20:28]  You see in the internal emails that high-level executives were debating whether or not to drop Epstein in at least 2008, if not before then.
[00:20:41]  And in one email, they were shot down by even higher level execs.
[00:20:46]  There's one that says that basically, oh, I assumed that all of this money would be outflows, meaning that Jeffrey had $150 million around $150 million in various accounts at JPMorgan.
[00:20:57]  They assumed it would be an outflow because they assumed that the bank would be dropping him as a client.
[00:21:02]  And they said pending Diamond Review, which is referring to Jamie Dimon reviewing whether or not they were dropping him as a client, but they didn't in 2008, which can only lead a rational person such as Bryce Belden sitting across from me here.
[00:21:18]  People in America to think, oh, that means that Jamie Dimon said, no, let's keep him as the climate.
[00:21:24]  This is a fucking chair of the largest bank in the world.
[00:21:29]  Just to make clear.
[00:21:30]  So let's get into it a little bit more, like what exactly was J.P. Morgan and Epstein's relationship as far as we know from some of these different filings.
[00:21:39]  Because I think this is really the first time we're seeing a window into, or seeing through a window, you know, into a lot of this stuff.
[00:21:46]  That's the thing with the Epstein stuff, I mean, obviously we know a lot about the sex trafficking stuff.
[00:21:52]  Not probably even 10% of what actually went down, but we know we have a fair view into at least what some facets of it were like, right?
[00:22:02]  Yeah.
[00:22:03]  With the banking stuff and with his money shit, which is a huge, huge, huge, huge part of this, we actually have very, very, very little insight.
[00:22:14]  Completely opaque.
[00:22:15]  Yeah.
[00:22:15]  Yeah.
[00:22:16]  So from about 1998 to 2013, JPMorgan Chase, and what was just J.P. Morgan in the beginning, because it became J.P. Morgan Chase in like, I don't know, 2000, 2001, whatever it was.
[00:22:30]  They managed about 55 Epstein accounts that totaled somewhere around the hundreds of millions of dollars through that course.
[00:22:38]  The U.S. Virgin Islands has identified at least 20 payments from those accounts to girls who were trafficked and sexually assaulted in the Virgin Islands.
[00:22:47]  I'm going out on a limb and saying, I bet there's a lot more, but that they are comfortable with saying these are 21,000% for sure because they're publicly named victims.
[00:22:59]  Yeah, right, yeah.
[00:23:00]  Or publicly identified.
[00:23:02]  So many of the victims have come forward anonymously, Right.
[00:23:06]  Among the recipients of these payments, this is a quote from one of the filings.
[00:23:13]  Among the recipients of these payments were numerous women with Eastern European surnames who were publicly and internally identified as Epstein recruiters and or victims, including $600,000 to Jane Doe 1, a woman who JP Morgan's own due diligence reports, so that means internal memos and filings, owned due diligence reports stated Epstein purchased at the age of 14.
[00:23:41]  So my question here is, is that Nadia Marchinkova?
[00:23:47]  Because that's famously the woman with the Eastern European surname who he has, well, the only person that we've ever actually had a name attached to that's been said that Epstein purchased her, who was said to be part of his ring.
[00:24:01]  He taught her, he got a pilot's license, all this kind of thing.
[00:24:05]  So that is pretty interesting.
[00:24:21]  Well, we also see that Epstein's air company, Hyperion, would consistently withdraw cash amounts consistently under the $10,000 flagging limit for expenses, quote.
[00:24:34]  which is outstripping what anyone would expect for an airline company to have with cash.
[00:24:38]  I mean, obviously they're paying a lot of money for fuel and stuff, but usually you're not flying into, you know, Burbank, Bob Hope Airport, and then paying for your fucking jet to be refueled with cash.
[00:24:50]  I know.
[00:24:51]  I was thinking about when I was reading through that, and I think there were some that was like, there was one that was like a $218,000 payment or something insane.
[00:24:59]  And I was thinking of those two fucking pilots that we saw in the trial, at Gillette Maxwell's trial, and how the first pilot, right, I remember he came in and he was wearing those fucking slippers that had his initials on them that were the same as Jeffrey Epstein's.

=== Governor John DeJong: An Interesting Character (15:35) ===

[00:25:17]  Oh.
[00:25:18]  And all I could think of was fucking boys club.
[00:25:21]  It made me feel so sick.
[00:25:22]  Yeah, I really did not like that guy.
[00:25:24]  No, he was a false.
[00:25:25]  That fucking pilot.
[00:25:26]  Yeah.
[00:25:27]  I just, I don't know.
[00:25:27]  I mean, here's my thing.
[00:25:29]  He was doing the pilot's creed, man.
[00:25:30]  Doing the pilot's creed.
[00:25:31]  Yeah.
[00:25:31]  It's like, I don't know.
[00:25:32]  Whatever happens behind the door, not my business.
[00:25:35]  Which, as we know, thanks to 9-11, very much what happens behind the door is your business.
[00:25:39]  Also, it's literally your business because you are paid to pilot the sex trafficker.
[00:25:44]  And a whole plane, not just your portion.
[00:25:46]  I mean, it's the literal definition of your business, which is pilot, private pilot for Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:25:53]  So it also shows that some of the charitable foundations, quote, charitable foundations that Jeffrey Epstein owned, sent money to Leslie Wexner.
[00:26:01]  And although the next name is blanked out, it's very clear that it also his charitable foundation sent money to what appears to be, allegedly, this is not what I'm alleging.
[00:26:12]  This is what somebody I showed these documents to who is alleging who will remain unnamed.
[00:26:17]  Interesting.
[00:26:18]  Is Eva Dubin.
[00:26:20]  Okay.
[00:26:20]  Yeah.
[00:26:20]  Yeah, there's a lot of interesting redactions in this and the various filings from the U.S. Virgin Islands.
[00:26:27]  Well, that one I thought was Eva Dubin just because in the context, I mean, my friend who died, unfortunately, so cannot be in trouble.
[00:26:38]  My friend who died was like in the context of this and mentioning, well, maybe Dubin's husband's company coming up pretty soon in the lawsuit.
[00:26:45]  It had to be her.
[00:26:46]  This is one of the interesting redactions.
[00:26:49]  And again, there are a lot.
[00:26:51]  I mean, there's a whole page specifically only about activities at JPMorgan that clearly is referring to Jamie Dimon that is just fully, fully redacted.
[00:27:02]  Yeah.
[00:27:02]  Yeah.
[00:27:03]  Which is, again, Jamie Dimon is, I would say, in the top 10 of most powerful people in the world.
[00:27:09]  Yeah.
[00:27:10]  Okay.
[00:27:11]  This is from one of the U.S. Virgin Island suits.
[00:27:15]  In 2011, Epstein and Staley had extensive discussions regarding the creation of a, quote, very high all capitals profile donor advised fund, DAF, which is an investment account established to support charitable organizations headed by the redacted.
[00:27:37]  Epstein pitched the redacted DAF as a quote exclusive club with a minimum $100 million donation where JPMorgan would act as the fiduciary.
[00:27:49]  Now, you know my Photoshop ass girl brain.
[00:27:53]  You tried to unredact.
[00:27:54]  No, you can't unredact.
[00:27:56]  Well, there have been a couple misfilings where you actually could just highlight it.
[00:27:59]  Yeah, they just put, you know how you can like make the background of a text a certain color?
[00:28:03]  There's been some like high-profile cases in which lawyers have just blacked out the text using that and you can just unblack it out.
[00:28:12]  That's so funny.
[00:28:14]  Wow.
[00:28:15]  No, I didn't do that.
[00:28:16]  What I tried to do was type in various names to see if the characters would line up.
[00:28:22]  Well, because one, the first redaction is a long guy.
[00:28:25]  But it's a the in front of it.
[00:28:27]  Yes.
[00:28:27]  So it's the name of a charitable organization.
[00:28:31]  Wexner.
[00:28:32]  Could be.
[00:28:33]  Gates.
[00:28:34]  Could be.
[00:28:35]  No, that would be the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is much too long.
[00:28:39]  The Wexner, I think it's Wexner Foundation.
[00:28:41]  It is, yeah.
[00:28:42]  So that would fit.
[00:28:43]  Another one that would fit would be the Clinton Foundation.
[00:28:49]  Clinton.
[00:28:50]  Yes, that would fit.
[00:28:54]  And I actually did type out in the same size and everything to see if it would fit.
[00:28:59]  It does.
[00:28:59]  It does.
[00:29:00]  But who knows?
[00:29:01]  It's redacted.
[00:29:02]  Okay.
[00:29:02]  Yeah.
[00:29:03]  No one's alleging anything, but there's some interesting redactions in here.
[00:29:08]  All of this is to say that this, all of this is the, which really the U.S. Virgin Islands points out is the central point of connecting Staley and Epstein, right?
[00:29:16]  That JP Morgan, in, you know, in its suit to dismiss all of this, is arguing that the bank had nothing to do with this and that Staley and Epstein's relationship was just personal.
[00:29:28]  They were boys.
[00:29:28]  That's an individual thing.
[00:29:30]  This is not institutional, right?
[00:29:32]  And the U.S. Virgin Islands is saying, no.
[00:29:34]  Staley was a representative of the bank.
[00:29:36]  He used Epstein to get referrals for more clients.
[00:29:39]  You know, this is their quote.
[00:29:41]  Thus, Staley's job was to maintain a close relationship with Epstein so that his money, connections, and referrals would continue to flow to JP Morgan, right?
[00:29:52]  So, and I mean, that's why, you know, Jamie Dimon is like, no, we're not going to, we're not going to let this guy drop his accounts.
[00:30:00]  He's bringing in powerful people.
[00:30:02]  He's bringing in a shit ton of cash.
[00:30:04]  Yeah.
[00:30:05]  And then continuing to bring in cash, which again, you know, that's how banks make money.
[00:30:10]  Everything's gravy.
[00:30:11]  Well, it's not.
[00:30:12]  Yeah.
[00:30:13]  I mean, it is, it does seem pretty fucking clear that while Jeff Staley clearly actually did like Epstein, he was also was, and this is again, like what you're saying, and what the Virgin Islands are saying, acting in his capacity as a representative of J.P. Morgan Chase in his relationship with Epstein, in addition to just like also having sex with trafficked women that Epstein provided him.
[00:30:35]  JP Morgan Chase, again, the largest fucking bank in America, right?
[00:30:40]  I mean, this is, I'm, I know this is getting coverage.
[00:30:44]  It's actually getting pretty good coverage, but still it doesn't feel like enough.
[00:30:47]  I mean, this is fucking huge.
[00:30:49]  And especially for, I mean, even with as many, and we'll talk about this later, horrible things that JPMorgan has done.
[00:30:57]  This is way up there.
[00:30:59]  Well, you might be wondering at this point, why are the U.S. Virgin Islands even filing any kind of memorandums in support of civil suits or anything like this?
[00:31:08]  Why do the Virgin Islands care, right?
[00:31:10]  So they actually filed their own suit against J.P. Morgan Chase back in December before Jane Doe's civil suit, saying that J.P. Morgan knowingly, negligently, and unlawfully provided and pulled the levers through which recruiters and victims were paid and was, quote, indispensable, I mean, the whole thing's a quote, to the operation and concealment of the Epstein trafficking enterprise.
[00:31:34]  So this was filed by the Attorney General of the Virgin Islands, a woman named Denise George.
[00:31:39]  Who we've talked about, because I've always said, Denise George, that sounds like a powerful lady attorney name.
[00:31:46]  And you might be like, wow, that's crazy.
[00:31:48]  The U.S. Virgin Islands filed this big lawsuit against J.P. Morgan Chase.
[00:31:53]  Well, four days later, on New Year's Eve, Denise George was fired from being the Attorney General of the U.S. Virgin Islands.
[00:32:01]  She was fired by a guy, well, the governor named, and this is a double first name, Albert Bryant Jr.
[00:32:11]  He actually had appointed her back in 2018.
[00:32:14]  So Governor Albert Bryant Jr., which, by the way, I'm going to give you guys a little tip here.
[00:32:20]  If you're a junior and you become the governor, leave that motherfucker out of your name.
[00:32:25]  Unless you got a world-famous father.
[00:32:28]  Yeah, unless your dad was also the job that you have.
[00:32:32]  Yeah.
[00:32:32]  Right?
[00:32:32]  But if your dad is less famous than you or less powerful than you, he's the junior.
[00:32:37]  Like John John, you always had to be a junior.
[00:32:40]  Had to be a junior.
[00:32:41]  Obviously.
[00:32:42]  Absolutely.
[00:32:43]  But always went by John John, which is thank you.
[00:32:45]  That's smart, too.
[00:32:47]  This guy should be named A.B.J. Albert Bryan Jr.
[00:32:50]  Yeah, A.B.J. is good.
[00:32:51]  ABJ is really good.
[00:32:53]  I mean, you know, listen.
[00:32:54]  Well, this guy sucks, so I don't want to get it.
[00:32:55]  He does suck.
[00:32:56]  He got his start in territorial politics when he was appointed as commissioner for the Department of Labor by the former Governor John DeJong.
[00:33:07]  Sorry.
[00:33:09]  I'm not any happier about it than you are, okay?
[00:33:13]  Wait.
[00:33:14]  John.
[00:33:16]  A.B.J. Jr.
[00:33:17]  Well, no, that's the J. A. B. J. Appointed.
[00:33:20]  Appointed.
[00:33:21]  By Jean DeJong.
[00:33:22]  My name is Sean Bao John and I'm Xiaoville.
[00:33:27]  In 2007, yes, to head the Department of Labor on the U.S. Virgin Islands.
[00:33:33]  Yeah.
[00:33:34]  John DeJong.
[00:33:35]  So Governor John DeJong is an interesting character in his own right.
[00:33:40]  Actually found a New York Post story from 2007 that describes his relationship with Monsieur Jeffrey Epstein, a very famous resident of the U.S. Virgin Islands.
[00:33:50]  This is from the New York Post, page six.
[00:33:52]  Sources also say Epstein enjoys a warm relationship with U.S. Virgin Islands Governor John P. Dejong Jr.
[00:34:01]  Oh my God.
[00:34:01]  I guess also a junior.
[00:34:03]  Yeah, I guess so.
[00:34:05]  This is a quote.
[00:34:06]  Epstein has donated as much as $1 million to the governor's election campaign, said our source.
[00:34:12]  In addition, Epstein, who runs the charitable J. Epstein Virgin Islands Foundation, employs DeJong's wife, Cecile, as its director.
[00:34:23]  He also pays for the education of the governor's children at the exclusive Antilles School on St. Thomas.
[00:34:30]  Right.
[00:34:30]  So Epstein paid $1 million for the governor's election campaign and pays his wife to sit on his charitable foundation board.
[00:34:44]  So it might have been called the J. Epstein Virgin Islands Foundation at this time.
[00:34:48]  Later, change its name to something that our listeners, or at least a lot of our earlier episodes, might be more familiar with, the Southern Trust.
[00:34:56]  Oh.
[00:34:56]  So, Governor John DeJong's wife is nominally in charge of Southern Trust, which is Jeffrey Epstein's hundreds of millions of dollars charitable foundation that existed, as the U.S. Virgin Islands Attorney General Denise George would allege in a lawsuit to facilitate his sex trafficking operation.
[00:35:19]  So, she's actually listed in the black book under Epstein's own numbers.
[00:35:24]  Cecile, not Denise.
[00:35:24]  Cecile is, not Denise.
[00:35:26]  Yeah.
[00:35:27]  So, Southern Trust, for those of you who don't remember, which I don't know why you necessarily would, but it's one of his many companies, but it's one of the bigger ones.
[00:35:34]  It's technically a company that says it was in biomedical and data mining work.
[00:35:39]  None of that work has ever been produced.
[00:35:43]  Obviously, it's like a fake shell company that does not actually do anything, have any real employees, make anything.
[00:35:49]  It exists solely to help him pull off financial and sexual crimes.
[00:35:56]  That same page six article says that Epstein did pay for John DeJong's children's education.
[00:36:02]  Yeah, he did that a lot for all of his employees.
[00:36:04]  That's exactly the pilots, exactly.
[00:36:07]  That's a great way, by the way, which I hate, I really don't want to link this, but you know, you always take care of your boys.
[00:36:14]  Always take care of your guys.
[00:36:14]  And unfortunately, Epstein always took care of his guys.
[00:36:18]  Listen, that's, you know, if you're paying for someone's, for your guys' kids' education, I'm telling you, that pilot staying mom on the stand even after you're dead.
[00:36:27]  Here's, here's it.
[00:36:28]  Here's my thing.
[00:36:29]  You know, we talked about this on the show before.
[00:36:31]  Listen, all the lessons we learn in life, they're not always given to us by perfect teachers.
[00:36:36]  Absolutely.
[00:36:37]  Right?
[00:36:38]  But one of those.
[00:36:38]  Think of all those things you've learned from The Bachelor.
[00:36:41]  Exactly.
[00:36:42]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:36:43]  You know?
[00:36:44]  But I will say, taking care of your boy, you got to take care of your boys, right?
[00:36:48]  If you are a boss, a capo, anything like that, paying for the kids' education is like number one thing you're going to do, right?
[00:36:55]  Because you know what?
[00:36:57]  Maybe that puts the kids in your debt a little bit.
[00:36:59]  Oh, my God.
[00:37:00]  Maybe those kids grow up, maybe they come work for you too.
[00:37:02]  Okay, I think you're checking it too far.
[00:37:04]  Anyways, DeJong, his spokesman, actually.
[00:37:12]  John DeJong.
[00:37:13]  Governor Jean DeJong Jr. of the U.S. Virgin Islands actually is like, yeah, you know what?
[00:37:19]  He does pay for my children's education.
[00:37:21]  My wife does work for it, but he says he thinks it was, quote, highly appropriate that his wife worked for Epstein.
[00:37:28]  He says that it was, again, a quote, just a job.
[00:37:33]  He was later arrested for embezzlement in 2015.
[00:37:36]  Although I think he got off the chart.
[00:37:37]  It's very clear that the U.S. Virgin Islands is like a pretty, the political class there is extremely displayed.
[00:37:44]  So bad.
[00:37:44]  Lots of graft and corruption.
[00:37:45]  It's like really crazy.
[00:37:47]  And like, he spent a bunch of public funds on security for his mansion.
[00:37:51]  I mean, the entire place exists as tax haven for shell companies.
[00:37:55]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:37:55]  Yeah.
[00:37:56]  So, I mean, that's literally.
[00:37:57]  And rape islands.
[00:37:58]  Sure.
[00:37:59]  Yeah.
[00:37:59]  Yeah.
[00:38:00]  But, I mean, when that's built into kind of like the Constitution, I mean, it really, yeah, it makes things really tough.
[00:38:07]  Which, you know, we're kind of seeing actually with the SPX lawsuit, right?
[00:38:12]  I mean, there's so much back and forth between the Bahamian authorities and, you know, what the, you know, New York attorney generals want to do.
[00:38:34]  So Virgin Islands officials clearly saw Epstein as like another.
[00:38:39]  I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of these guys like Epstein there.
[00:38:42]  I'm sure they're not all sex traffickers, but there's a lot of people who are committing, a lot of rich people committing some pretty serious crimes in the Virgin Islands.
[00:38:49]  And I think they can, officials there see a guy like Epstein, they see a guy who's willing to play ball, right?
[00:38:55]  So Epstein's Southern Trust, which minds you, minds you?
[00:39:01]  Oh, you know what?
[00:39:02]  Keep both your minds on this.
[00:39:03]  Mind you, I'm not going to retake that.
[00:39:04]  I'm just going to go with it.
[00:39:06]  Mind you, Governor John DeJong Jr.'s wife, Cecile, is like the manager of, receives a 100%, or excuse me, 90% tax break from the Virgin Islands government in 2012.
[00:39:23]  So they got a 10-year package of economic incentives running from February 1st, 2013 until January 31st, 2023.
[00:39:31]  That's this year.
[00:39:32]  Oh, it's over.
[00:39:34]  That included, and this is according to the lawsuit, a 90% exemption from income taxes and 100% exemption from gross receipts, excise, and withholding taxes in the Virgin Islands.
[00:39:46]  Jesus Christ.
[00:39:47]  I know.
[00:39:47]  You're like, who the fuck would sign off on that?
[00:39:49]  I mean, Jeffrey Epstein had been convicted of sex trafficking.
[00:39:53]  Lolita, the Lolita Express was like a known quantity at this time.
[00:39:57]  His island was like literally famous, not as famous as it would be after he got arrested the second time, but internationally famous to the point where these guys would know about it as a place where sex trafficking occurred.
[00:40:09]  Nicknamed Rape Island.
[00:40:10]  Exactly.
[00:40:11]  Who would sign off on giving his fake company this incredible tax break deal?
[00:40:17]  Enter ABJ.
[00:40:20]  Exactly.
[00:40:20]  The signature on the document, which gives him this 10-year 90% tax break, belongs to ABJ Jr.
[00:40:31]  The Jr. is the J.
[00:40:32]  Yes.
[00:40:33]  The current governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands, and who was at the time the head of the Economic Development Authority in the U.S. Virgin Islands, appointed by Sean DeJohn.
[00:40:44]  Governor John DeJohn.
[00:40:48]  What a fucking mess.
[00:40:49]  Well, enter AG Denise George, right?
[00:40:52]  Yes.

=== Criminal Assets: 3.6 Trillion+ (15:47) ===

[00:40:53]  Sassy, professional, and from reading her filings, very good at her job.
[00:41:00]  Very good at her job.
[00:41:00]  Yeah, no, she is.
[00:41:02]  She is, I gotta say, we've read a lot of court documents over the years, right?
[00:41:05]  Especially related to Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:41:07]  Especially related to my lawsuit.
[00:41:09]  What?
[00:41:11]  So we've read a lot of court documents over the years.
[00:41:13]  And, you know, like you see gumption in some, you see hesitancy in others.
[00:41:20]  Absolutely.
[00:41:20]  She goes crazy on these.
[00:41:22]  Oh, yeah.
[00:41:22]  She's going, yeah, she's all over it.
[00:41:25]  I mean, I will say, like, point blank, accusing JP Morgan of facilitating sex trafficking.
[00:41:31]  That takes some fucking volumes.
[00:41:32]  We love it.
[00:41:33]  And she does a good job.
[00:41:34]  She does a really good job.
[00:41:35]  You know, again, she makes a very compelling thing.
[00:41:37]  I'm disbarred now, but when I was barred, I would be fully being like, this is actually legally makes sense.
[00:41:44]  So her background, she was a lawyer, private practice, U.S. Virginia.
[00:41:47]  U.S. Virgin Islands, not a lot of people live in there who aren't, not a lot of people who are like from there, basically, right?
[00:41:54]  Yeah.
[00:41:55]  So she was in private practice there.
[00:41:57]  And then she gets, I think, appointed to assistant AG of the Virgin Islands and then headed, and this is in her biography prior to any of this coming out, the prosecution of white-collar crimes and headed the child abuse task force and wrote the first statute in the U.S. Virgin Islands about child abuse and endangerment.
[00:42:17]  So those are two pretty good things to have on your side when kind of going after this kind of stuff.
[00:42:21]  She was appointed to be attorney general of the U.S. Virgin Islands in Toto in 2018.
[00:42:26]  And when Epstein was first arrested, or not first arrested, but this last time and final time arrested, she immediately filed suit, winning eventually well over $100 million for the U.S. Virgin Islands and half the sale of Epstein's Island when that eventually happens, which I got to be honest, got to be pretty cheap.
[00:42:43]  She also went after, and I thought this was pretty cool, Darren Indike and Richard Kahn, who were his lawyers.
[00:42:50]  The estate lawyers.
[00:42:51]  Exactly.
[00:42:52]  Yes.
[00:42:52]  Because she was like, you guys did this too.
[00:42:55]  Right.
[00:42:56]  Like, it is very clear that they did.
[00:42:59]  She eventually was not able to pursue.
[00:43:02]  They basically got off.
[00:43:04]  And we're actually, crazily enough, like they, yeah, still the executors of his will.
[00:43:08]  And so like basically dispersing money to his victims while having helped him procure those victims in the first place.
[00:43:23]  So here we are, December 2022, like a month and a half ago.
[00:43:28]  She files suit once again, Abu Morgan Jays.
[00:43:33]  And she actually, the lawsuit subpoenas Leon Black and Leslie Wexner.
[00:43:38]  And then four days later, New Year's Eve, she's fired.
[00:43:42]  And ABJ.
[00:43:44]  ABJ through a spokesman says the reason for the firing about the lawsuit about JPMorgan, well, that's not entirely accurate.
[00:43:55]  However, we have actually had no explanation whatsoever why she was fired other than he didn't get along with her.
[00:44:03]  Well, I have read somewhere that they said, oh, it was because she didn't adequately inform me that you were filing this suit.
[00:44:13]  To which I would say, when you're filing a huge suit against JP Morgan, where you publicly named Jamie Dimon as responsible for facilitating, let's say this, giving an okay to facilitate sex trafficking for almost over a decade.
[00:44:31]  Like, I don't know if you seek approval from the appointee, political appointee whose boss's wife was on the board of one of Jeffrey Epstein's charitable foundations.
[00:44:48]  And who he himself signed off on a 10-year, like, incredible tax break for Jeffrey Epstein's fake business that his boss's wife was the nominal manager of five years or six years after Jeffrey Epstein's conviction for raping a child.
[00:45:08]  Yeah.
[00:45:09]  And so, yeah, that seems to be pretty obviously the reason.
[00:45:12]  Yeah.
[00:45:12]  You mentioned that in the suit, they've tried subpoenaing Leon Black and Les Wexner.
[00:45:19]  They've actually tried seven times at two different locations to serve a subpoena to Les Wexner.
[00:45:25]  Yeah.
[00:45:25]  And they have failed because, and this is literally a quote, they've been thwarted by security.
[00:45:33]  And basically Wexner's lawyers are just not picking up the phone.
[00:45:36]  This is like an incredible dodge of subpoena is happening here.
[00:45:42]  You know, longtime listeners of the show will know that Wexner's properties are highly guarded by some of the world's most notorious guardsmen.
[00:45:55]  Interesting.
[00:45:56]  You can say it, Liz.
[00:45:58]  They're Jewish.
[00:45:59]  I was going to say IDF.
[00:46:00]  They're Jewish.
[00:46:00]  I don't know.
[00:46:01]  It's okay.
[00:46:02]  They're Jewish.
[00:46:02]  I don't know their religion.
[00:46:04]  You know what?
[00:46:04]  Some of us take Trent.
[00:46:07]  It just came out that a judge ruled that they could serve the subpoena through the mail.
[00:46:11]  Yeah.
[00:46:11]  Which really, you're not supposed to.
[00:46:12]  You can't do that.
[00:46:13]  You can do that?
[00:46:14]  No.
[00:46:14]  I'm going to be honest with you.
[00:46:16]  I feel like you should be able to do that to begin with.
[00:46:20]  I do like that you do have to trick people in order to serve them.
[00:46:24]  I know.
[00:46:25]  So I guess that's.
[00:46:25]  Like the Olivia Wilde thing.
[00:46:27]  Yeah.
[00:46:27]  Or you know what?
[00:46:28]  Ghillaine Maxwell herself served at the Clinton.
[00:46:30]  Pedophile Foundation.
[00:46:31]  Yeah.
[00:46:32]  Okay.
[00:46:32]  Well, in the suit.
[00:46:37]  We would like to thank them for their generous support for this podcast.
[00:46:41]  You know, in that suit, I mean, Denise and the U.S. Virgin Islands, but I really want to shout out Denise here.
[00:46:46]  I mean, they really like, you know, I want to hammer this on.
[00:46:48]  They lay out a pretty compelling pace that JP Morgan facilitated and just covered up money laundering for over a decade that was just essential to the Epstein trafficking operation.
[00:46:58]  They list out, you know, it's not just Southern Trust.
[00:47:00]  They list out all of the different companies that were kind of under the Epstein umbrella, I guess, that all had accounts with JP Morgan.
[00:47:10]  And they're, I mean, you mentioned Hyperion, you mentioned Southern Trust.
[00:47:13]  There's a ton of these.
[00:47:14]  There's Financial Trust Company or J-E-G-E, J-E-G-E-L-L-C, N-E-S, which is not Nintendo, but I thought about that.
[00:47:23]  One called Plan D, which I assume is a production company.
[00:47:29]  K Records.
[00:47:30]  We'll come back for Indian Summer.
[00:47:33]  Yeah, no.
[00:47:34]  But, you know, the reason I'm saying this, there's all these different fucking companies that were all shell companies.
[00:47:40]  They were all created to move money around from different accounts to other accounts to shelter Epstein's assets.
[00:47:46]  And he got mad tax breaks, like you said.
[00:47:50]  I mean, JP Morgan would let him take crazy cash withdrawals from these different accounts.
[00:47:59]  You know, moving them from one to the other.
[00:48:04]  I mean, just like totally insane.
[00:48:05]  They say that JP Morgan, I mean, you're asking what he did.
[00:48:08]  JP Morgan didn't even try to find out where Epstein got his money.
[00:48:13]  Well, the thing is, none of them are companies in the sense that you would know a company like that makes money or anything like that.
[00:48:21]  They're not companies.
[00:48:22]  They're all shell companies.
[00:48:23]  Like Jeffrey Epstein had nothing.
[00:48:25]  The closest thing that he would have to a company is Hyperion Air because that actually at least owns, that's the plane.
[00:48:32]  You know what I mean?
[00:48:33]  I mean, that's, I guess, still not a company because he just is the plane.
[00:48:37]  But yeah, they're all, it's all like this.
[00:48:39]  They're all shell companies.
[00:48:41]  Yeah.
[00:48:42]  And I know I'm just anticipating, I think there's probably some listeners out there, maybe, but I'm sure it's not you, dear listener.
[00:48:48]  But some other people who are like, why would a bank do that?
[00:48:51]  Who cares?
[00:48:52]  They're just banks.
[00:48:52]  They don't care.
[00:48:53]  No, they do.
[00:48:54]  They have like federal regulations that they have to follow.
[00:48:56]  Know your customer regulations.
[00:48:58]  They cannot be knowingly facilitating this kind of stuff, especially after, and I think, you know, I'm going to get this wrong, but it was in the early 2000s that a bunch of new sex trafficking laws were passed, specifically to go after kind of situations like this.
[00:49:17]  Banks do not want to be liable for criminal activity because they can be held liable for criminal activity under the law.
[00:49:23]  So yeah, actually, they do have to do this.
[00:49:25]  Deutsche is usually the, I feel like he should have gone with Deutsche to begin with.
[00:49:30]  Isn't that like the mob bang?
[00:49:31]  I mean, fucking, look, Chase is a bunch of fucking criminals.
[00:49:37]  I'm just going to say, this is, you know, this is the largest bank in the United States.
[00:49:39]  They're the world's largest by market cap.
[00:49:42]  They have, I think as of this year, like 3.6 or 3.7 trillion in assets.
[00:49:48]  I mean, they're fucking huge, but there are so many fucking scandals just in the, I'm going to say, just during Jamie Dimon's tenure, I'm not even talking about like throughout.
[00:49:58]  We don't need to go back to Nazi gold shit for this stuff.
[00:50:00]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:50:01]  Like, this is just, there was the whole Enron thing.
[00:50:05]  Perhaps you're, you know, people are familiar with that.
[00:50:08]  They were, Chase was like not just the main financier of Enron.
[00:50:14]  I mean, they were literally producing research that investors relied on in order to keep Enron afloat.
[00:50:18]  They were like one of the companies that, you know, led almost like billions of dollars in funding to expand Enron Company.
[00:50:30]  They knew exactly what was going on.
[00:50:32]  They invested in Enron.
[00:50:32]  They bought Enron for its funds.
[00:50:34]  They recommended the stock to investors on internally produced research.
[00:50:38]  So much so that when that whole thing went bye-bye, the result was that, yeah, there's millions in fines.
[00:50:44]  Okay, there's billions in investment settlement.
[00:50:46]  But they also made it so that investment banks and research wings cannot be, they have to be completely separate with completely separate staff hierarchies and all of that.
[00:50:58]  So like if you own a house in the Bahamas, it's like one, one side, investments over here and research is over here.
[00:51:04]  Yes.
[00:51:04]  And that research side is actually in Almeida.
[00:51:07]  Yeah.
[00:51:08]  Yes, in Berkeley.
[00:51:09]  No, it's true though.
[00:51:10]  I mean, because of what Chase was doing, we have the law that then, yes, SPX broke.
[00:51:18]  Polyamory.
[00:51:19]  Yes.
[00:51:20]  Does this fly at JP Morgan?
[00:51:22]  I mean, look, I don't even want to know.
[00:51:24]  There was the WorldCom scandal, which maybe people don't remember.
[00:51:26]  That was a huge, like, that was a huge one.
[00:51:29]  There was all of the investigations into mortgage-backed securities.
[00:51:36]  You know, they paid, I think it was like $13 billion in settlements over that.
[00:51:42]  There was the London whale trades in 2012 that were fucking huge.
[00:51:46]  That rocked the derivatives market.
[00:51:48]  They lost like 6.3 billion, something like that, in synthetic credit derivatives.
[00:51:55]  But it's not just like, oh, we know the banks do all that stuff.
[00:51:59]  I know what people are thinking.
[00:52:01]  No, they've got like felony charges.
[00:52:03]  Yeah.
[00:52:04]  So the bank was hit with two criminal charges in 2014 in connection with Bernie Madoff.
[00:52:10]  Surprise.
[00:52:12]  Chase was Madoff's bank.
[00:52:14]  Okay.
[00:52:15]  In the early 1990s, and this is from the DOJ filing.
[00:52:20]  In the early 1990s, the bank learned that Madoff and a prominent client of JPMorgan's private bank were engaged in what looked like round-tipping check kiting transactions, the classic Ponzi move, right?
[00:52:34]  Madoff had another account at another bank that was involved in these transactions.
[00:52:38]  That bank flagged them and after filing a suspicious activity report with the police, closed down all of Madoff's accounts, right?
[00:52:45]  That's when Madoff moved all of his accounts.
[00:52:48]  He already had accounts at JP Morgan, but he moved all of his accounts to JP Morgan because he knew at Chase, I'm fucking family.
[00:52:55]  These guys love me over here.
[00:52:56]  Right.
[00:52:57]  So Chase didn't flag any of the transactions.
[00:53:01]  And so the amounts grew larger and larger because he was able to consolidate all of his accounts at once, right?
[00:53:06]  And so you know how Ponzi works.
[00:53:07]  Yeah.
[00:53:08]  So he's making more and more, right?
[00:53:10]  So in December of 2001 alone, that same private bank client engaged in $6.8 billion worth of transactions with Madoff through a series of circular $90 million transfers at JPMorgan.
[00:53:24]  Their own internal teams flagged Madoff on multiple occasions after that.
[00:53:29]  And even still, Chase propped up the Ponzi with several loans over the years, including $145 million in 2005, right when the whole thing was about to collapse.
[00:53:41]  So Chase basically propped it all up.
[00:53:44]  Incredible.
[00:53:45]  Right?
[00:53:46]  Now it paid $1.7 billion to the victims of the fraud and it worked with the government on some like anti-money laundering compliance program or whatever.
[00:53:54]  But so it had two criminal charges.
[00:53:56]  And that's not the only criminal charges that this fucking bank has faced under the stewardship of Jamie Dimon.
[00:54:04]  What else they got?
[00:54:05]  Hit me with it.
[00:54:05]  They're actually hit with another criminal felony count for rigging foreign exchange markets.
[00:54:10]  Forex markets?
[00:54:11]  Yeah.
[00:54:11]  But that's how I do my day trading.
[00:54:14]  Yeah, crypto's over.
[00:54:15]  Everyone went Forex.
[00:54:16]  Now everyone's left that for AI or whatever the fuck they're doing.
[00:54:20]  But yeah, in 2015, there was a whole foreign exchange markets rigging scandal.
[00:54:25]  So that one they actually admitted to, which means that JP Morgan, Chase are admitted felons.
[00:54:31]  Okay.
[00:54:32]  Yeah.
[00:54:34]  Then again, 2020, a lot of people don't remember this, but it happened.
[00:54:38]  The Justice Department charged JP Morgan with two more felony counts, which again, the bank admitted to, one for rigging the treasury market and another one for rigging precious metals market.
[00:54:49]  Now, gold?
[00:54:52]  Gold.
[00:54:53]  It's hard to like overstate.
[00:54:56]  I know I'm always railing on the banks.
[00:54:58]  I'm like, the banks.
[00:54:59]  It's such a millennial thing to do.
[00:55:01]  It's like, ah, we got to out of the bank.
[00:55:02]  We need to end the banks, but first, the Fed.
[00:55:06]  Like, we really need to end the Fed.
[00:55:08]  But it's true, right?
[00:55:09]  Like, this is fucking criminal activity.
[00:55:12]  And they're engaged in criminal activity.
[00:55:13]  There was this horrible story that I'm remembering off the top of my head, so I'm going to get it wrong.
[00:55:18]  But I remember reading about it like a long time ago, like over a decade ago, on Naked Capitalism, where there was a story about how Chase was servicing mortgages.
[00:55:32]  And basically, you know, these two separate families, their house burned down, and then Chase, through a series of really egregious, like insurance, what I would call insurance fraud and fee stalking, like ruined these families' lives, foreclosed on their houses, even though they had burned down.
[00:55:51]  And one person killed themselves and another one had a heart attack and died in these families.
[00:55:57]  Like real fucking shit.
[00:55:59]  I'm getting that whole story.
[00:56:01]  Look it up on Naked Capitalism.
[00:56:03]  Really.
[00:56:03]  That's not that unbelievable of a story.
[00:56:05]  No, it isn't.
[00:56:06]  And it happened.
[00:56:06]  There were huge lawsuits involved, actually.
[00:56:10]  Cocaine chip they had?
[00:56:16]  They had, and I get it.
[00:56:18]  It's probably not JP Morgan themselves with one point.
[00:56:20]  It was the biggest cocaine bust in history.
[00:56:22]  Over a billion dollars worth of cocaine.
[00:56:24]  I'm sorry.
[00:56:25]  Like, you know, some guy's in my car.
[00:56:27]  I mean, I don't know how to drive, nor do I own a car, but some guy is in my car and he gets busted heading up to Yonkers with $7 million worth of fentanyl in it.

=== Cocaine Bust Revelations (02:47) ===

[00:56:40]  I'd probably get in a little bit of trouble, right?
[00:56:43]  You'd think.
[00:56:43]  You'd think.
[00:56:44]  And maybe the cops just like fentanyl.
[00:56:46]  But I'm telling you, and like, this isn't even getting into the shit that these banks, I mean, there's only, what, like four banks now?
[00:56:53]  Yeah.
[00:56:54]  Like, I mean, it's like they're fucking cartel and they rig everything.
[00:56:58]  They don't give a shit about these fines.
[00:56:59]  What did they pay for?
[00:57:00]  $900 million in fines for rigging the treasury market for years?
[00:57:05]  No one gives a shit.
[00:57:06]  That's the thing about fines to begin with that like drives me insane.
[00:57:09]  They make it in.
[00:57:10]  Fines are fake.
[00:57:11]  No one gives a fuck about fines.
[00:57:13]  That's why they get into their eyes.
[00:57:14]  People talk about like the Starbucks union shit.
[00:57:16]  Like, oh, they're union busting.
[00:57:18]  They're union busting.
[00:57:18]  Like, they're going to get the, and I know this is slightly different, but like, you know, they're talking about you're going to get hit with fines from the NLRB, right?
[00:57:26]  They don't fucking care.
[00:57:27]  No, they're too big to find.
[00:57:28]  They literally, you can just, they'll just pay it, dude.
[00:57:31]  They're too big to find.
[00:57:32]  Exactly.
[00:57:32]  And so what you need to do, just in prison.
[00:57:36]  Well, you know what, though?
[00:57:37]  Yes.
[00:57:38]  Yeah.
[00:57:38]  And this is what I'm saying.
[00:57:39]  Yeah.
[00:57:39]  Like you should inform you.
[00:57:40]  You actually, you know, people have made the case, and I think that there's a case to be made, that if we had an, let's say, upstart Attorney General, heading the Justice Department, who was, let's say, had a very powerful name and experience in, you know, filing, I don't know, charges against big institutions, not being scared.
[00:58:08]  I'm saying, if we had Denise, I really like Denise.
[00:58:11]  Oh, she should be.
[00:58:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:58:12]  And she's, you know, she needs a job.
[00:58:14]  No, but people have made the case that they absolutely could file Rico.
[00:58:19]  You could get the banks on Rico.
[00:58:20]  100%.
[00:58:21]  Yeah.
[00:58:22]  And they should.
[00:58:23]  They are fucking gangsters.
[00:58:25]  Yeah.
[00:58:26]  It's hard.
[00:58:27]  I mean, the stuff, I mean, the stuff with, I think that more is going to come out with JP Morgan and its involvement with Epstein.
[00:58:36]  I really, really hope they don't dismiss these cases.
[00:58:40]  We'll see how far these civil suits can go.
[00:58:45]  Well, yeah.
[00:58:45]  And then, like, you know, this is obvious, like, they're not, the U.S. Virgin Islands is like still technically pursuing this.
[00:58:51]  But without Denise.
[00:58:52]  Without Denise, you know, so it's, we'll see.
[00:58:55]  Yeah.
[00:58:55]  Yeah.
[00:58:56]  It is, it's pretty, it's pretty extraordinary.
[00:59:00]  My thing is this.
[00:59:01]  I think the U.S. does need a new attorney general, right?
[00:59:05]  But I think it should be somebody who has some experience maybe running like a pretty big state and even like a big city's, you know, justice wing, right?
[00:59:17]  And I think maybe a young girl from Oakland, California with a pretty powerful name herself should be the U.S. Attorney General.

=== Kamala Harris's Productive Cough (02:09) ===

[00:59:28]  Wait, who are you talking about?
[00:59:28]  Talking about Kamala Harris.
[00:59:29]  Oh, Creation is what I thought you were saying.
[00:59:31]  Oh, Creation, yes.
[00:59:33]  So I think.
[00:59:34]  Powerful name for Vocal.
[00:59:35]  I think, well, this is what I'm saying.
[00:59:37]  So Kamala Harris, yes.
[00:59:39]  No, I knew her.
[00:59:40]  I knew her mother.
[00:59:41]  Creation?
[00:59:42]  Yeah.
[00:59:43]  She has a real name, right?
[00:59:45]  I never met her, but I know her mom.
[00:59:47]  I met her mom on her.
[00:59:48]  I was sure a moment wasn't.
[00:59:51]  But yeah, I'm saying that I think Kamal Harris should become U.S. Attorney General and that creation should actually be vice president to Joe Biden.
[01:00:07]  OK, then start now.
[01:00:09]  I want to be clear here.
[01:00:10]  I just coughed.
[01:00:11]  It was a wet cough.
[01:00:12]  It was what the doctors would call a productive cough.
[01:00:16]  And I said, put it in.
[01:00:17]  I've done this several times this episode where I have interrupted things for a, I would say a moist, a damp little cough, a little wet cough.
[01:00:28]  And Liz and Young Chomsky have looked at each other, exchanged glances as if I was already dead.
[01:00:35]  And both said, we're not putting that in with their eyes.
[01:00:38]  Yeah, because I don't think people should have to listen to you coughing.
[01:00:41]  This is fucking real, Liz.
[01:00:43]  This is real life.
[01:00:44]  Do you think this is a costume?
[01:00:46]  No, I don't.
[01:00:47]  I think you're sick.
[01:00:48]  I am sick.
[01:00:49]  In the head.
[01:00:50]  I'm sick of being pushed around by you people.
[01:00:53]  I want to show the world that you can live with pneumonia.
[01:00:57]  It's still podcast.
[01:00:58]  No.
[01:01:00]  It's not a death sentence anymore.
[01:01:02]  And also, I think you should stop eating so much red meat.
[01:01:04]  I don't.
[01:01:06]  Who told you that?
[01:01:07]  You did.
[01:01:08]  Pause.
[01:01:10]  My name is Brace.
[01:01:14]  I'm Liz.
[01:01:15]  We are, of course, joined by producer Young Chomsky.
[01:01:19]  And this has been Trunon.
[01:01:21]  We will see you next time.
[01:01:23]  Bye-bye.
[01:01:31]  Jeffrey Lexter Johnson, Jeffrey Laste.