True Anon Truth Feed - [PREVIEW] Episode 210: War In Ukraine
Aired: 2022-02-27
Duration: 04:46


=== What Went Wrong (04:46) ===

[00:00:00]  What day is it?
[00:00:01]  Oh, Saturday.
[00:00:02]  We never record on Saturdays.
[00:00:03]  We never record on Saturdays.
[00:00:05]  It's because it's a holy day for my people.
[00:00:09]  Just to temporally anchor us, it is Saturday, February 26, 2023 at 1.32 p.m. Pacific Time.
[00:00:20]  Yeah.
[00:00:20]  So 2023, just to lie to people.
[00:00:23]  Oh, wait, did you say 2023?
[00:00:25]  Yes, but let's see.
[00:00:26]  Oh, I didn't even catch it.
[00:00:27]  February 26th, 2023.
[00:00:32]  Before we start, I do want to say that now there's definitive proof that we aren't intelligence assets because we got the intelligence wrong.
[00:00:40]  We didn't think this would happen.
[00:00:42]  Well, we could be part of a massive disinformation campaign by the CIA to lead podcast listeners astray.
[00:01:02]  Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:01:15]  Welcome to another episode of True and On.
[00:01:17]  My name is Brace.
[00:01:19]  Hello, I'm Liz.
[00:01:20]  We are, of course, as always, joined by producer Yank Chomsky.
[00:01:24]  And you already said what the podcast was.
[00:01:25]  I know.
[00:01:25]  I've never done that before.
[00:01:27]  I don't know.
[00:01:27]  We were just getting into it.
[00:01:29]  Yeah, that was a weird.
[00:01:31]  I feel ashamed for having done that.
[00:01:34]  Well, we're here because Russia invaded Ukraine a couple days ago.
[00:01:39]  Yes.
[00:01:40]  Yeah, I'd missed that.
[00:01:41]  But you texted me about it this morning.
[00:01:43]  Frankly, I'm going to need to see some more evidence of it.
[00:01:46]  Yeah, you need to catch up on the news.
[00:01:49]  Yeah.
[00:01:49]  I mean, I've had COVID.
[00:01:51]  All right.
[00:01:52]  I have long.
[00:01:53]  Brace is the opposite of me and almost everyone else, where he can't stop telling everyone that he has COVID.
[00:02:00]  No, I only told people yesterday once I was basically over it.
[00:02:03]  Oh, really?
[00:02:03]  Yeah.
[00:02:04]  I felt ashamed of having gotten it now.
[00:02:08]  Now it's a mark of it's not as cool now, I suppose.
[00:02:11]  I mean, it's like everyone else got it in December.
[00:02:13]  I like, I don't, don't get me started on this.
[00:02:16]  I was given it to take me out of the equation.
[00:02:20]  Okay.
[00:02:21]  Let's talk.
[00:02:23]  Yeah.
[00:02:23]  Because we're here to talk about what's been happening in Ukraine.
[00:02:29]  Yeah.
[00:02:30]  And I want to start with a Maya culpable.
[00:02:32]  Well, Maya not culpable.
[00:02:34]  I want to be clear on that, but a maya culpa because I was wrong.
[00:02:40]  Dead wrong on this.
[00:02:42]  I thought Ukraine was not going to get invaded by Russia.
[00:02:46]  And it turns out the opposite of that happened.
[00:02:50]  Yeah, I also was wrong.
[00:02:52]  I think that although I'm not going to, I don't really, no Maya culpa for me.
[00:02:57]  I don't really care, to be honest, about being wrong.
[00:02:59]  I'm going to say, like, there's, I'm not going to, like, I don't know.
[00:03:03]  I think there's some people that out there that care more about like, I don't know, I've noticed this at least over the past couple of days that like everyone seems a little confused about like, what's the take?
[00:03:15]  What's the right take?
[00:03:16]  What should the left take be?
[00:03:17]  The left take should be this.
[00:03:18]  The take should be this.
[00:03:19]  What side am I on?
[00:03:20]  Like, you know, who's what?
[00:03:21]  And so there seems to be a lot of like people looking at kind of like, you know, tallying up the different points on each side and seeing what's what.
[00:03:29]  And I just don't care about any of that.
[00:03:30]  I'm not going to like fucking apologize for wish casting that war not happen.
[00:03:37]  I didn't want to believe that Putin would enforce his red line, you know.
[00:03:43]  And he did.
[00:03:44]  I think if people listen to those episodes, they shouldn't be in any kind of, they shouldn't be confused why this is happening.
[00:03:51]  Yeah.
[00:03:52]  Yeah.
[00:03:52]  I think for me, I, there's, there's a, because I've been thinking about it for like the, you know, basically since this happened.
[00:03:58]  And I can't remember when we recorded those episodes, but it was before Putin gave his speech and recognized the republics in eastern Ukraine.
[00:04:06]  Yeah.
[00:04:07]  And then obviously before the invasion.
[00:04:09]  And I'm trying to think of like, well, there was, you know, when it happened, the night that it happened, I was, I was pretty shocked.
[00:04:17]  And I think a large part of the reason of that is A, that, I mean, the most basic reason I think I got it wrong is that I don't believe basically anything that the US government says, especially about a foreign adversary, right?
[00:04:33]  The same people that said that like Russia was going to invade Ukraine are the same people that has basically fed us bullshit since I was like a kid, right?
[00:04:40]  And I think a general heuristic that I've taken is like, well, basically don't believe anything that these people say.