True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 193: Twin Torpedoes Aired: 2021-11-03 Duration: 01:09:30 === Why Trash Litters Streets (02:58) === [00:00:00] New York, baby. [00:00:01] What a town. [00:00:04] I'm always, every time I walk around the streets here, I always think to myself, this could only happen in New York. [00:00:10] You know what I don't like about New York? [00:00:12] What? [00:00:12] Why is there trash everywhere? [00:00:15] It is filthy. [00:00:17] Well, Liz, until they invent a town without men, that's going to be the case everywhere. [00:00:23] But yeah, no, so I still don't really get it. [00:00:25] So you can just put your trash in a bag here and then throw it on the street. [00:00:30] You could throw it anywhere. [00:00:31] You don't even have to put it in a bag, apparently. [00:00:33] You can just put it on the street. [00:00:34] Here's my other thing. [00:00:35] What? [00:00:37] People should clean up the streets. [00:00:39] Yeah. [00:00:40] Yeah. [00:00:40] It's too dirty. [00:00:42] If there was only some kind of caped crusader that could come around here. [00:00:52] Or perhaps organize a group. [00:00:53] Everyone's like, oh, you should get into organizing. [00:00:56] You should organize. [00:00:57] You know, yeah. [00:00:58] An organized group, perhaps with familial ties, because those, as we know, those bonds are the strongest. [00:01:04] They are. [00:01:05] Perhaps they should get into some trash collecting to clean up the streets. [00:01:08] You know what I'm saying? [00:01:09] I absolutely know what you're saying. [00:01:11] What I'm saying to that is not only trash should they collect. [00:01:16] Imagine this. [00:01:17] Imagine if you got a bunch of guys together to keep the streets safer, right? [00:01:22] And you put on maybe a uniform and had a gun and you walked around. [00:01:27] If you saw anyone doing a crime, you went, hey, buddy, you stop that right now, or I'm going to put you full of holes. [00:01:33] And then you could put them in your car and take them to jail. [00:01:36] Check this out. [00:01:38] you're also Orthodox Jewish. [00:01:39] To that point though, [00:02:04] so my buddies used to live in this punk warehouse down in Brooklyn somewhere. [00:02:11] It's like a big warehouse with like a, there used to be punk shows there and all this stuff. [00:02:15] This big fight with the landlord goes down. [00:02:17] Like they're all going to get evicted. [00:02:18] They win the fight eventually. [00:02:20] Hey, good for them. [00:02:21] To an extent, but the like agreement that they're forced to come to is that the building is now patrolled by the actual. [00:02:31] I wasn't joking before. [00:02:33] There are Orthodox Jewish police here. [00:02:35] And now they're stationed at my friend's, like the warehouse that these people live in. [00:02:40] Oh my God. [00:02:41] Yeah. [00:02:42] It's like, I mean, it's a giant, huge, like half a city block long building. [00:02:46] The classic, you think you win the battle, but you lost the war. [00:02:49] Exactly. [00:02:49] Yeah. [00:02:50] I, yeah, they've the case of the missing moil is what they're trying to solve. === Halloween Heist (02:35) === [00:02:58] Hello. [00:02:59] Welcome to the final for now episode of, well, the in-person in New York City episode of Truanon for a second. [00:03:08] I'm saying goodbye. [00:03:09] For three. [00:03:10] Right now. [00:03:10] Goodbye. [00:03:13] Liz is accepted a position in a training camp on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. [00:03:20] But she says she'll be back here real soon and that you're never going to forget it. [00:03:26] Ever. [00:03:28] With that in mind, I'm Liz. [00:03:30] My name is Brace. [00:03:32] And if she ever does what she's saying she's going to do, then I disavow. [00:03:36] Of course, we're joined by producer Young Chomsky and Muhammad Ada. [00:03:40] And the podcast is called Truanon. [00:03:43] Hello. [00:03:43] Hello. [00:03:44] We are, we're taking a little trip down to, check this out. [00:03:48] wait, watch this. [00:03:49] Strap on your... [00:03:51] Excuse me? [00:03:52] Well, hold on. [00:03:53] Let me think of something. [00:03:54] Wait, yeah, don't start with that. [00:03:55] Strap on your white belt and comb over your emo haircut because we're going a little retro today. [00:04:05] Oh my God, that's not what I thought you were going to say. [00:04:07] Okay, well, put on your suicide. [00:04:10] Why was the white belt the thing? [00:04:12] I don't know. [00:04:13] It's a moment. [00:04:14] Yeah, it's well, Blue Helmet was taken. [00:04:17] And so they're like, well, what other color does the UN have? [00:04:20] It's white. [00:04:21] Did you have a nice Halloween? [00:04:22] Me? [00:04:23] I was with you. [00:04:25] No, that was yesterday. [00:04:26] I didn't do much on Halloween. [00:04:28] No spooks? [00:04:29] No scaries? [00:04:30] No, not no ghoulish tricks. [00:04:34] Well. [00:04:34] No treats? [00:04:35] I'll tell you what I did. [00:04:37] Me and these guys went into this, like, you know, like a home of a person, like a stranger while they were sleeping. [00:04:47] A little breaking and entering. [00:04:48] Well, we didn't. [00:04:49] Well, yeah. [00:04:51] And you wake them up. [00:04:53] They think you're a ghost. [00:04:54] Yeah. [00:04:54] You get one night of the year you can do it. [00:04:56] Yeah. [00:04:56] And you wear the sheet, right? [00:04:58] No. [00:04:59] No, I wasn't. [00:05:01] No, We didn't wake them up. [00:05:04] We just took things from their house. [00:05:06] No, I didn't do much. [00:05:08] I went, I didn't do. [00:05:10] I worked on this episode. [00:05:11] I think as a pro trickster, Halloween for kids. [00:05:17] Yeah, exactly. [00:05:18] The real tricksters holidays, obviously. [00:05:20] I mean, it's April Fool's. [00:05:21] Yeah. [00:05:22] Oh, my God. [00:05:22] April Fool's is my Halloween. [00:05:24] Yeah. [00:05:25] Yeah. [00:05:26] And yeah. [00:05:30] Last night, because it's Halloween's on a Sunday, too. === Guys, Ghillaine Maxwell's Trial Next Month (11:02) === [00:05:34] It's like, it's like, yeah, I'm watching HBO. [00:05:36] Yeah. [00:05:37] Yeah. [00:05:37] I'm watching the white lotus on HBO. [00:05:41] I didn't match that. [00:05:42] We'll never see it ever. [00:05:44] You know what I've tried watching it? [00:05:46] I couldn't. [00:05:46] I was like, all of these people are awful. [00:05:50] Yeah. [00:05:51] I want nothing to do with it. [00:05:52] Uh-huh. [00:05:53] Isn't that most shows? [00:05:55] Yeah, but there was like, it was like as if I was watching it. [00:05:59] It has the culture of a TV recap, and I disavow. [00:06:03] I don't know what that means, but I get the vibe. [00:06:05] You know what I'm saying? [00:06:06] Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. [00:06:08] All right. [00:06:09] Well, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking Jeffrey Epstein. [00:06:12] We're talking about Jeffrey Epstein's associates today. [00:06:16] Liz is going to prison. [00:06:18] No. [00:06:20] By the way, today Brace floated that as an actual option. [00:06:25] For what? [00:06:26] Because we were like, okay, so, okay, let's just get to the episode. [00:06:29] Guys, Ghillaine Maxwell's trial next month. [00:06:33] No, baby doll. [00:06:35] This month. [00:06:36] Oh, no. [00:06:38] God damn it. [00:06:39] Okay, anyway, it's the first of the month. [00:06:41] Yeah. [00:06:42] The trial is at the end of the month. [00:06:43] It's November 29th, and it's happening. [00:06:46] And guess who's covering it? [00:06:48] Your two favorite dummies, Goofus and Gallant. [00:06:50] Uh-huh. [00:06:51] Mario and Chris Cuomo. [00:06:53] Wait, who is Gallant there? [00:06:56] Well, no, I actually, so yes, I actually, in my head, Mr. YC over there, I actually think of it as Goofus and Gallant as well. [00:07:06] Because, yeah, yeah. [00:07:08] Who is who there? [00:07:10] I don't like how I'm the dumb one. [00:07:11] So I'm going to go. [00:07:12] You're not. [00:07:12] I'm goofy. [00:07:13] People, yeah, you're goofus in this. [00:07:15] All right. [00:07:15] I'm gallant. [00:07:18] No, Liz is saying that because of the seminal. [00:07:20] Sounds better than that. [00:07:21] Liz is saying that from the seminal San Francisco indie rock band to Gallant. [00:07:26] I think it just sounds a little more dignified. [00:07:29] You already got the goofus and you kind of just. [00:07:32] It's his name, dude. [00:07:33] You can pronounce it however you want. [00:07:35] Yeah, we've already been over this. [00:07:36] Yes. [00:07:36] This is what I'm saying. [00:07:37] You got two goofuses covering this trial. [00:07:42] And you're going to do it from the inside. [00:07:43] Well, that was your idea, which I think that is not what's happening. [00:07:46] If our press passes get denied, Liz is going to have to go to prison. [00:07:50] It's just jail. [00:07:52] I don't want to do that. [00:07:53] Also, we wouldn't. [00:07:54] The trial doesn't happen in the jail. [00:07:56] Yeah, it does. [00:07:57] No, it doesn't. [00:07:58] It's in the courthouse. [00:08:00] Really? [00:08:00] Oh, my God. [00:08:01] I got to make some. [00:08:02] We've got a lot of work to do before this trial starts, including figuring out where it is. [00:08:07] Yes. [00:08:08] Well, it's in the courthouse. [00:08:10] Yes. [00:08:10] As I just found out. [00:08:11] In the southern district of New York. [00:08:13] Somebody, check this segue out. [00:08:15] Somebody who hasn't been to the jail to visit his sister in a little while. [00:08:21] Are we not doing that yet? [00:08:22] You'll give me a look. [00:08:23] So let's talk about it. [00:08:24] So we are going to be covering the trial. [00:08:26] Liz was giving me too hard a look. [00:08:29] And I promise you we will return to that because I actually thought we were about to do that right now. [00:08:33] We are going to cover the trial. [00:08:35] Yes. [00:08:35] By hook or by crook, we're getting in there. [00:08:38] Yeah, no, we'll be in there. [00:08:39] You know, these things last all day, too. [00:08:42] I know. [00:08:42] And you can't text during it. [00:08:44] No, they didn't let you have a phone. [00:08:46] That's so uncomfortable. [00:08:47] Dave Chappelle wants to be there. [00:08:48] And so they take your phone. [00:08:50] They don't let you record anything. [00:08:53] So that'll be so stressful to get out and see all the angry text messages. [00:08:57] I don't what? [00:08:58] You know you're not going to be able to vape. [00:09:01] Yes, I am, baby doll. [00:09:03] Yes, I am. [00:09:05] First of all, I'm going to smoke. [00:09:07] I'm back on smoking. [00:09:08] Yeah, I can hear it. [00:09:10] But I'm going to, I'm going to, no, you're going to be able to. [00:09:12] How else can people function during high stress situations besides smoking? [00:09:18] You can't smoke in a courtroom? [00:09:19] Oh, dude, you're not going to, this is going to be. [00:09:23] It sounds like a smooth section of the courtroom. [00:09:27] No. [00:09:27] It's a big room. [00:09:29] No. [00:09:30] Smoke rises. [00:09:31] So for five hours. [00:09:34] Well, there'll be a lunch break. [00:09:35] Probably a couple other breaks. [00:09:36] Hopefully. [00:09:37] Sig breaks. [00:09:39] Five hours, you will not be able to look at your phone or vape. [00:09:42] That's fine. [00:09:43] I cannot look at my phone for five hours. [00:09:46] First of all, it's also not five hours. [00:09:47] It's 9.30 to 5. [00:09:49] So that's 8 hours. [00:09:50] Oh, it's great. [00:09:51] Oh, yeah, true. [00:09:53] Still not enough of a break. [00:09:55] But I will leave to smoke during the most important parts where I get stressed out. [00:10:00] If they let you back in, which they might not. [00:10:02] They're going to let me back in. [00:10:03] I don't think it's like a club where you can like. [00:10:05] I'm going in there fist full of hundreds to bribe every single person I talk to. [00:10:10] No, it's federal court. [00:10:11] I don't think it'll work. [00:10:12] Okay, it's federal money. [00:10:14] Oh, my God. [00:10:14] That's how that works. [00:10:15] We'll see. [00:10:16] I guarantee you, not the first mar bred fucking, you know, smoker who's gone in. [00:10:24] Perhaps this is a good moment for quitting. [00:10:26] Maybe I'll smoke a cigar. [00:10:28] Anyways, we're going to be in there and I'm going to talk the entire time and make it all about me, I'm going to disrupt the proceedings and make it about me. [00:10:39] Stop pedophiling. [00:10:40] You're going to just like, you're going to be like, we're doing some activation. [00:10:43] What are those courthouse? [00:10:44] What are those femme, those fucking, what are those NATO chicks who are always like mad at Putin? [00:10:49] They show their titties. [00:10:50] Oh, what is their name again? [00:10:52] Femme N. There's this little CIA outfit. [00:10:55] Yeah. [00:10:56] Well, I got to say. [00:10:57] No, Pussy Riot. [00:10:58] No, it's no. [00:10:59] What's your right? [00:11:00] Don't show their titties. [00:11:00] Oh, wow. [00:11:01] No, these are good at some point. [00:11:03] Well, I'm not interested in their titties. [00:11:06] But no, there's like protesters. [00:11:08] Europeans always do this. [00:11:10] They show their breasts. [00:11:11] Bernie got it done to him, too. [00:11:14] I have a 70s, like, French t-shirt from the topless. [00:11:18] It was like some feminist topless movement, which is like, why'd you guys make t-shirts? [00:11:23] Don't the French already do that? [00:11:25] It was a whole like thing. [00:11:26] Yeah. [00:11:27] Free the nipple. [00:11:28] Yeah, it was like an early free the nipple, but it's like against the kind of mission statement to make t-shirts. [00:11:35] You know what I'm saying? [00:11:36] I gotta say, too, with the nipple should be in chains, manacles, for the rest of its life. [00:11:43] I don't think that thing should be ever. [00:11:44] You know what it did? [00:11:45] What? [00:11:46] I don't know what time. [00:11:46] Let me just say it makes Ghalain Maxwell look like freaking Mother Teresa. [00:11:50] Are you excited to cover the trial? [00:11:51] I am excited to go to the trial. [00:11:53] Except for being back in New York, yes. [00:11:56] If the trial was in Hawaii, I'd be a lot more. [00:11:59] That would be incredible. [00:12:00] Why didn't they have the trial in the Caribbean? [00:12:03] Yeah. [00:12:04] No, I'm very excited to cover the trial. [00:12:06] We are going to be doing a we're going to be doing some experiments in podcasting during this trial. [00:12:14] We are definitely experiments in covering legal proceedings. [00:12:19] We are going to do this like no one else has done it before. [00:12:22] Yeah, it's going to make the OJ coverage look. [00:12:27] I don't know how to finish that sentence. [00:12:28] Yes. [00:12:29] Let me just say, is you know, if you can't report the news, make it. [00:12:35] I'm just kidding. [00:12:35] No, we are, we are, we are, we are going to be, we're going to be covering this. [00:12:39] And not, I don't want to make it sound too crazy, but we have some big plans for coverage. [00:12:43] Yeah, it'll be fun. [00:12:44] And to hopefully get up to date. [00:12:47] In person more often. [00:12:48] Yes, for in fact, every day, all day in a courtroom where we can't talk. [00:12:52] Yeah. [00:12:52] Which is how I would always hope to see you. [00:12:56] Except maybe with you on the docket. [00:12:59] That's amazing. [00:13:00] Oh, in the docket. [00:13:00] Because I would be a great witness. [00:13:02] Uh-huh. [00:13:02] Yes, I would be a great witness too to your hanging at Nuremberg. [00:13:09] Anyways, let's talk about the news. [00:13:12] Ian Maxwell. [00:13:13] Ian Maxwell. [00:13:15] As we've already talked about Maxwell's, Ian Maxwell's, Ghillane's brother's beautiful website, his free Ghelane site. [00:13:23] He seems to mostly now spend all day just posting random acts of kindness on the free ghane Twitter account. [00:13:29] He's got a great, the Twitter, great stuff. [00:13:32] Yeah, oh, absolutely. [00:13:33] It's really good. [00:13:34] High follow. [00:13:35] But there was a new, there was a new interview with him that came out. [00:13:37] Yeah, it was for Sky News, which I'm like, I feel like Sky News shouldn't be a real thing. [00:13:42] It should just cover the air. [00:13:44] Yeah, that's what you, that's like, oh, that's the only news we can get in the air. [00:13:48] Sky News. [00:13:49] Makes sense to me. [00:13:50] I'm looking now at the Free Ghelane website or the realghillain.com. [00:13:56] Doesn't seem like it's actually really been updated. [00:13:58] Yeah. [00:13:59] The webmaster on vacation. [00:14:01] Yeah. [00:14:02] No, he has a new interview with Sky News about Ghillane's treatment. [00:14:07] This is the whole thing that they're pushing. [00:14:09] And in fact, Ghillaine Maxwell had a, there was like a, there was a hearing today, kind of a pre-trial hearing, where they were going over some docket issues and filings that we're going to get to in a second. [00:14:22] But her defense has really been pushing this whole, you know, they're getting, she's getting mistreatment, blah, The black eye, we've talked about this. [00:14:30] Ghillain showed up with the black eye in the old who's gal. [00:14:36] Wow. [00:14:36] Talk about a look who's coming to dinner situation. [00:14:41] But she, yeah, so they're really pushing this whole thing. [00:14:43] Jesus Christ. [00:14:44] That was pretty good, though, right? [00:14:47] Uh-huh. [00:14:48] They're really pushing this whole thing. [00:14:50] Yeah, they're pushing the whole Assange angle. [00:14:52] Uh-huh. [00:14:52] Yeah. [00:14:53] So she is a victim of the prison system. [00:14:56] You know, she, no one is free until we're all free. [00:14:59] Free Ghelane. [00:15:00] That's what I'm always saying. [00:15:02] Yeah. [00:15:02] And his whole thing, too, is, I mean, the recent tweets from this are like hashtag DYK, I think, which is did you know? [00:15:12] What? [00:15:12] Kindness is good for you. [00:15:14] One of those things that no one uses. [00:15:15] No one uses that. [00:15:16] I love when old people use kindness. [00:15:17] Kindness, this isn't quote. [00:15:19] Kindness is good for you. [00:15:20] Question mark. [00:15:21] It eases anxiety is good for your heart and reduces stress. [00:15:24] And quote. [00:15:25] And then hashtag S-A-K. [00:15:28] I don't know what that means, but he always uses it. [00:15:31] And then it's a link to six science-backed ways being kind is good for your health. [00:15:36] And then that feels more of like an Instagram post than a Twitter post. [00:15:39] You know what I'm saying? [00:15:40] Planning on doing some fall baking this weekend? [00:15:43] Make some pumpkin muffins or an apple pie for a family member or a neighbor who will enjoy it and spread a little kindness. [00:15:50] That's nice. [00:15:52] This is a real Ghulane Twitter account. [00:15:56] You know what? [00:15:57] But see, this is how the old man, he needs a little bit of social media strategy because what I would say is the way you finish that is, yes, you should go out and bake a nice apple pie for your family members because you love them because some of us can't because our family members are in jail. [00:16:12] And that's how you pivot. [00:16:13] You got to pivot. [00:16:16] And the old man, he doesn't understand. [00:16:17] He hasn't even spoken to his sister. [00:16:20] No, they're not really. [00:16:21] I was going to say they're not really friends, but they're, you know, siblings. [00:16:25] I got to say, that was the most astounding part of the interview for me is he says, like, yeah, he hasn't been able to visit. [00:16:33] As a non-sibling haver, this is something I don't understand. === Multiple Footage Revealed (14:07) === [00:16:36] Who could have guessed? [00:16:38] Hey. [00:16:39] Who could have guessed? [00:16:41] I don't know. [00:16:43] Who could have guessed? [00:16:47] No, no, no, we're good. [00:16:48] Who could have guessed? [00:16:51] As a non-sibling haver. [00:16:53] Anyway, I don't understand. [00:16:54] Yeah. [00:16:55] I feel like you never will. [00:16:57] If I had a brother or a sister, I would definitely talk to them. [00:17:01] Yeah, I got to say, if a sibling of mine was one of the world's most notorious chunks. [00:17:08] But that's not why they haven't talked. [00:17:09] That's not why they haven't talked. [00:17:10] Yeah. [00:17:11] Now he doesn't care about that. [00:17:13] No, now, literally, when he didn't know she was one of the biggest, you know, pedophiles in history, allegedly, they didn't. [00:17:23] You know, now he knows that and he's like, I wish I could talk to her and bake her pies, but I can't. [00:17:28] Yeah, well, I bet he bitches he could bake her and take her a pie with mehaps thinks a file in it so she could get them bars filed down. [00:17:38] Oh my gosh. [00:17:39] I bet he does. [00:17:40] That's a classic way. [00:17:42] That's what we're bringing to Courtney, by the way. [00:17:44] Oh, yeah. [00:17:45] We should bring her gifts. [00:18:02] There's more news here, but this time about a woman, Jess Staley. [00:18:07] I knew you were going to make that joke. [00:18:09] I knew you were going to do that. [00:18:11] Or, and I should have said something to Young Chomsky so we could like put money on him, then we'd have a little laugh together. [00:18:17] I knew you were going to say that, or you're going to say, now, Jess Staley, which is a woman's name. [00:18:21] Yeah. [00:18:22] Well, let me ask you guys this. [00:18:24] Let me ask you this. [00:18:25] If I told you guys tonight, I was like, Yeah, I'm getting engaged to a woman, or excuse me, to someone named Jess. [00:18:34] You ruined the whole thing. [00:18:36] That's a woman. [00:18:38] And then when you show up to the wedding and it's a gay wedding between me and Jess Staley, you'd be like, I thought you were marrying a woman. [00:18:46] I'd like, no. [00:18:47] I'd be like, damn, you're marrying one of the richest men in the world because, like this, Jess Staley is the CEO of Barclays. [00:18:56] Okay, very good. [00:18:57] The bank. [00:18:59] They've cut him loose. [00:19:00] He's stepping down. [00:19:01] Now, we talked about him a long time ago because, and I mean a long time ago, sometime early last year, maybe even like pre-COVID. [00:19:12] We've always had COVID, but yes. [00:19:15] Because he's had a long-standing relationship with Epstein back when he was at JPMorgan Chase. [00:19:23] He, and, you know, Epstein was tied up with JP Morgan Chase since like the early 2000s. [00:19:29] Yeah. [00:19:29] Remember, Epstein had that weird shell company that was released as part of the Paradise Papers Liquid Funding Limited. [00:19:38] Incredible name. [00:19:41] And JP Morgan Chase was kind of handling one of the facilities, that lending facilities that was funding this, like shell company that was like propping up a bunch of like subprime loan sharks, basically. [00:19:56] Oh, okay. [00:19:57] That's loan lenders. [00:19:59] But yeah, so the whole thing that we were, we, you know, in this episode we were talking about was that, you know, Epstein, his company was maybe bailed out by the government when they were, you know, they were bailing out all the companies that collapsed during the global financial crisis. [00:20:16] Yeah. [00:20:17] So-called. [00:20:17] Anyway, Jess Staley also, of course, famously visited Epstein while he was in his doing time in the clink. [00:20:27] Except it wasn't the clink. [00:20:29] It was basically a hotel. [00:20:31] Well, you gotta, yeah, his, his, his, the Hooscow in Florida. [00:20:34] Yeah. [00:20:34] Because you gotta, you got, yeah, I gotta say, the clink makes it sound like there's a door closing and it's making a clinking noise. [00:20:42] Yeah, that has bars that you need to file down. [00:20:44] Thing is, with Epstein's cell, is they didn't lock the door. [00:20:48] No, it had those rubber bars that you kind of go like, whoa, whoa, whoa, he would like step out. [00:20:52] It was really crazy. [00:20:53] Yeah, they put him up in tombtown. [00:20:55] I mean, it's crazy he had time to visit him, considering Epstein was out of jail for 12 hours every day, or 12 hours a day, six days a week. [00:21:02] So it's like, you really got to get penciled in there. [00:21:06] And he did. [00:21:06] Yeah, he did. [00:21:07] You got to visit him on a Sunday. [00:21:08] Yeah, there's a ton of email correspondence too. [00:21:10] So it was the whole thing. [00:21:11] And Barclays, you know, they had this investigation going for like a year or something. [00:21:17] What's weird is, so they announced that Jess Staley, again, CEO of one of the biggest banks in the world, Barclays, also Kevin Durant's employer. [00:21:28] Just kidding. [00:21:29] That's a little joke. [00:21:31] Barclays Stadium? [00:21:32] Yeah. [00:21:32] There you go. [00:21:33] Look at this. [00:21:33] Look at you. [00:21:34] You're a real New Yorker. [00:21:35] Yeah. [00:21:37] That's in New York. [00:21:38] No, so he's stepping down, but then Barclays came out and was like, we did our investigation. [00:21:42] And they didn't, there was nothing untoward. [00:21:45] There was nothing bad. [00:21:46] They didn't have any, there was no bad relationship. [00:21:48] In fact, he's scot-free. [00:21:49] He didn't do anything wrong, but he's stepping down. [00:21:52] Well, it's weird because what I also read that he was, so the report has not been released yet. [00:21:58] And then, and I bet, I bet there is bad stuff. [00:22:02] Oh, he's literally stepping down. [00:22:05] He's the CEO of a bank. [00:22:07] Yeah. [00:22:07] No. [00:22:08] Yeah. [00:22:08] The man hates his family. [00:22:09] He's not spending time with him. [00:22:10] I read that he was stepping down in order to fight it. [00:22:14] But that doesn't seem real to me. [00:22:16] No. [00:22:16] No, you want to fight it from the inside. [00:22:18] Yeah. [00:22:18] He's already infiltrated. [00:22:20] You got to fight it from the inside. [00:22:21] That's the true and honor thing: if you want to fight something, you got to fight it from the inside. [00:22:24] So if you don't like the police, you should become a police officer. [00:22:27] Yes. [00:22:27] Like I did. [00:22:30] And then, you know, keep your nose clean for like 25, 30 years. [00:22:35] The big Epstein news, of course, before we get to Gillian's trial, that everyone was talking about, but we have yet to comment on was the newly released footage of Epstein in Steve Bannon's forthcoming documentary. [00:22:51] Hastily announced documentary, I might add. [00:22:54] So, okay. [00:22:55] Everything this man does, hasty. [00:22:58] He's the king. [00:22:59] Hasty pudding. [00:23:00] That's what I call him. [00:23:01] So actually, I prefer it if you didn't call him that because I've had just hearing that in a woman's voice for me is kind of difficult to hear. [00:23:08] All right, keep it going. [00:23:09] So, all right. [00:23:10] Bannon. [00:23:10] All right. [00:23:11] We talked about this on the show before. [00:23:14] Michael Wolf's book came out saying, or parts of it released, whatever. [00:23:18] I'm not going to fucking read it. [00:23:20] But part of it, you know, a part that made headlines was that Bannon did extensive media coaching with Jeffrey Epstein. [00:23:28] Yes. [00:23:28] So for those of you who might not know what media coaching is, that's basically where you have somebody pretend to be the media and then- And they're like, oh, lightning round. [00:23:38] Boom, boom, boom. [00:23:39] Hard. [00:23:39] Yeah. [00:23:39] It's like debate coaching. [00:23:41] Bow, bow, what about this? [00:23:42] What about that? [00:23:43] Why'd you fuck that woman who's not your wife? [00:23:45] Oh, I'm the media. [00:23:46] Yeah. [00:23:46] And like, hey, check this out. [00:23:48] Why'd you quit beating your wife? [00:23:49] Yeah. [00:23:49] When did you quit beating your wife? [00:23:50] Yeah. [00:23:51] Can't answer that. [00:23:52] Yeah. [00:23:52] No, you say this. [00:23:53] Actually, you'd be like, no, Jess is actually a man's name. [00:23:58] And that's how you pivot. [00:23:59] That's how you pivot. [00:24:00] But yeah, so well, it's more media training, it's more than that. [00:24:03] You know, it's like teaching people strategies, how to deal with it, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of shit. [00:24:07] But that's an integral part of it. [00:24:08] And it said there was a lot of footage that Bannon had of him doing this with Epstein. [00:24:13] Definitely from the clip, multiple footage because he wears different pairs of glasses and different shirts. [00:24:19] Sure. [00:24:19] Yeah. [00:24:20] But also wearing different, which I don't like that. [00:24:22] I like the rim. [00:24:23] Maybe he was trying out different ones. [00:24:25] I definitely think the more like kind of classic Warby Parker plastic frame better for him in that moment. [00:24:31] Which one's that the thing? [00:24:32] Now, if I were a media stylist coach type lady type, that's what I would say. [00:24:38] I think the frameless on him makes him look older. [00:24:42] Yeah, it does. [00:24:43] It ages. [00:24:44] And thus, more like a pedophile. [00:24:47] Yeah, you want to go younger on that one. [00:24:48] But Bannon is smart in that he's like, oh, you think I was media coaching him? [00:24:54] Actually, I was doing a documentary. [00:24:57] Yeah. [00:24:57] And it's actually, I mean, it is pretty. [00:24:59] He was all right. [00:25:00] So he was definitely actually coaching him. [00:25:03] Yes. [00:25:04] He's not that smart because his excuse sounds stupid as hell. [00:25:07] And he just immediately put out this trailer or quickly put out this trailer, making it seem like he has this crazy documentary forthcoming, which seems to just be recycled footage from like newscasts and stuff interspersed with his own. [00:25:22] So he didn't go out and shoot a documentary. [00:25:24] He literally just has this. [00:25:26] I mean, I'm sure he'll go out and shoot some stuff now, but he just has this footage of Epstein, which he is the one that controls. [00:25:33] And so we're going to see what he puts out. [00:25:35] And so I'm sure that it'll fool a bunch of people and be like, well, he's being very adversarial with Epstein. [00:25:41] But yeah, that's because he's training in on how to deal with adversarial reporters. [00:25:47] Here's the thing. [00:25:48] Okay. [00:25:49] I feel a little bad because the last time we talked about this on the episode, now I'm remembering. [00:25:56] I mentioned something. [00:25:57] We were talking about the Michael Wolf book. [00:25:59] We were saying, oh, if this footage exists, Steve, you need to release the tapes. [00:26:05] Liz. [00:26:06] I said that. [00:26:07] If I could go to a gala and wear a sloganiered dress, it would say, release the tapes, Steve. [00:26:16] You know what? [00:26:16] Maya Culpa. [00:26:17] Look, here we are. [00:26:18] This is us. [00:26:23] We're acknowledging. [00:26:24] We're learning. [00:26:26] Hey, you repeated it. [00:26:26] You repeat it after me. [00:26:28] Okay. [00:26:29] So you joined in. [00:26:32] Okay. [00:26:32] You know, this is a little group guilt situation. [00:26:36] But look, we're learning. [00:26:37] We're accepting. [00:26:39] We're announcing. [00:26:40] We're moving on. [00:26:41] And I just want to apologize because looks like Steve is going to release the tapes. [00:26:47] Well, Liz, apology accepted. [00:26:49] Yeah, he's going to release the tapes. [00:26:51] And I will say, so we'll play the audio from that for about two minutes right now. [00:26:57] You own an island. [00:26:58] Two dollars. [00:26:59] Thank you, bro. [00:27:00] Two islands. [00:27:01] The islands of Dr. Moreau. [00:27:02] Correct. [00:27:03] Haybag Living from Old Thinking. [00:27:04] But the future is for the way women think. [00:27:07] The way women think. [00:27:09] That's correct. [00:27:09] Is that not a sop because of all the depravity you've done against young women? [00:27:15] And your new SOP is that women's thinking is the future? [00:27:19] No, I've always believed that women in fact be able to take over. [00:27:23] I'm a firm believer and supporter of Time Zone. [00:27:26] Greatest threat to people put in solitary confinement is they try to kill themselves. [00:27:29] Imagine that. [00:27:30] You're only in a room for 24 hours. [00:27:33] You still have to go crazy. [00:27:36] I love how, by the way, I want to keep this in. [00:27:39] It's so cute. [00:27:40] we say we're gonna put in a clip both brace and i do this like i mean listeners can't see this obviously but we do a physical like pause like as if we have to personally like be quiet and pause because now the audio is playing and i just think it's very gentle silent silent and totally still for two minutes straight But that's the, it's very cute. [00:28:02] Well, I thought, speaking of cute, first of all, this is, it's kind of, it is kind of extraordinary because the only other real footage we have of Epstein speaking comes from the deposition. [00:28:12] Yeah, the egg. [00:28:13] Which you can hear some of which in our intro music. [00:28:17] Yes. [00:28:18] And our outro music. [00:28:21] Yes. [00:28:23] Isn't it the same music? [00:28:24] I know, but it was just. [00:28:25] Yeah, yeah, okay. [00:28:27] And so this is, this is going to be, I mean, it's strange because that is also fairly grainy footage, too. [00:28:33] And this is very high def. [00:28:34] Yeah. [00:28:35] And it's strange to see Epstein talking like this. [00:28:38] It's really strange. [00:28:39] It is. [00:28:40] It feels like. [00:28:41] Deep fake. [00:28:43] I was going to say that. [00:28:44] Exactly. [00:28:45] Or like, you know, when like old people are like, hey, I'm going to go see a hologram of Roy Orbison play. [00:28:52] Uh-huh. [00:28:52] I would love to see that, dude. [00:28:54] the crooner yeah that's it feels like we're watching a hologram and they're like yeah you know which by the way this is something we should think about Next to an on show. [00:29:04] Hologram of Epstein. [00:29:05] No, dude, Roy. [00:29:06] We got to have Roy open, dude. [00:29:07] How sick would that be if Roy Orbison opened for us? [00:29:10] A candy-colored clown, Nicola Sandman. [00:29:14] Tiptoes to my room every night. [00:29:17] Um, yeah, it, or the big bopper. [00:29:21] Hello, baby. [00:29:24] Fuck. [00:29:24] Wait, we've got that on the show. [00:29:26] Big Bopper. [00:29:28] Dude, I don't want to get it. [00:29:29] Was that a nickname? [00:29:30] No, dude. [00:29:30] Big Bopper is. [00:29:33] Buddy Holly wasn't the only person that died that day. [00:29:35] The Big Bopper also perished. [00:29:37] And Big Bopper was a pretty big star in his own right. [00:29:40] Anyways, Epstein says some pretty funny stuff here. [00:29:43] Oh, yeah. [00:29:43] You know what he says? [00:29:44] Hey, Time's Up. [00:29:45] Yeah. [00:29:46] For guys like me. [00:29:48] Yeah, he supports Time's Up. [00:29:50] Yeah, he's like, more women's voices need to get out there. [00:29:52] And I'm a big backer and supporter of Time's Up. [00:29:54] That's what I've always said. [00:29:55] I said, you know, that t-shirt you're wearing, Lena Dunham, the future is female. [00:30:00] That's actually a quote from Jeffrey Epstein. [00:30:02] Jeffrey Epstein says the future is female. [00:30:05] And it's funny, too, especially I know why Bannon included that part. [00:30:09] A, because it's very funny and salacious. [00:30:11] But it's such an annoying little like Steve Bannon, like yeah, yeah. [00:30:14] Well, because Time's Up is basically a Democratic Party kind of thing. [00:30:17] Yeah, especially so because the director had to resign after it turns out she was helping Cuomo like overlook basically his strategy to discredit his accusers. [00:30:29] And that's that's the same thing with all of these like Democratic Party, like feminist kind of organizations, is they exist to help the Democratic Party. [00:30:39] And so Epstein is a member in good standing of the Democrats. === Jury Selection Rules (15:06) === [00:30:44] Yeah. [00:30:44] A member of the Republican National Committee. [00:30:46] Yeah, exactly. [00:30:48] You know, he's, of course, a big-time supporter of them. [00:30:52] And I guarantee, actually, he's probably funneling some money then for the CAA Weinstein people too. [00:30:58] Yeah, of course. [00:30:59] It's all stage managed. [00:31:00] Yeah. [00:31:01] And then, of course, he don't talk about solitary confinement and 24 hours in a cell kind of thing. [00:31:08] I look forward to it, though. [00:31:09] You know what? [00:31:10] You know what? [00:31:10] Takesy backseas. [00:31:12] Takesy backseas. [00:31:13] I don't apologize. [00:31:15] I'm happy that Steve is releasing the tapes. [00:31:17] I'm glad that he listened to you. [00:31:18] That's what I'm saying. [00:31:19] You know what? [00:31:19] Listen to women. [00:31:37] Well, you know who else is going to be listening to women? [00:31:40] You and me, two goofuses. [00:31:42] No, the jury, baby doll. [00:31:46] Yes. [00:31:47] And also us. [00:31:47] Well, we're not listening. [00:31:48] I was always said the jury is like the audience of the courtroom. [00:31:52] Really? [00:31:53] I've always thought of them as the critics. [00:31:55] Interesting. [00:31:56] Yeah. [00:31:58] I think of the audience as the people who are in the public gallery. [00:32:02] Do you watch Law and Order? [00:32:03] No. [00:32:04] Okay. [00:32:04] I don't watch any. [00:32:06] Here's the thing. [00:32:06] Yeah. [00:32:07] I, myself, huge Law and Order watcher for years. [00:32:10] Whoa, wait. [00:32:11] Hold on. [00:32:13] Stop. [00:32:14] You're telling me a woman likes the television show Law and Order? [00:32:19] That SVU, even? [00:32:23] Now, okay. [00:32:24] Uh-huh. [00:32:25] I do like SVU because I enjoy just the Law and Order universe. [00:32:32] Yeah. [00:32:32] However, I'm a classic. [00:32:35] I like to go way back in, you know, back in the catalog. [00:32:38] You can't watch the old episodes. [00:32:39] Most of those crimes are legal now. [00:32:43] But as someone, as a person of law and order watching, I feel like I know a thing or two about the old court system. [00:32:52] Yeah. [00:32:54] Now, coming up, jury selection. [00:32:58] Very excited. [00:32:59] Uh-huh. [00:33:01] I don't know how that's going to happen. [00:33:04] So there was really no point in you watching Law and Order. [00:33:07] No, I don't know how they're going to select a jury that could ever be impartial about this case. [00:33:12] So, okay, a couple things about that. [00:33:14] All right. [00:33:14] So it starts, they start the weeding out this Thursday, right? [00:33:17] Yeah, the fourth. [00:33:18] The fourth. [00:33:20] And then they really get down to like the, like, like the final sort of like winnowing down happens between the 16th and the 19th. [00:33:29] Yeah, that's called voider. [00:33:31] Oral void. [00:33:33] Which is when. [00:33:34] What? [00:33:35] What? [00:33:35] Voidir? [00:33:37] Yes. [00:33:37] Now, that's when both the prosecution and the defense get a chance to like, that's the like famous scene where you see the actual lawyers questioning the jury. [00:33:49] Oh, you believe we should legalize crime. [00:33:52] Yeah, totally. [00:33:53] Now, apparently, yeah, I don't know. [00:33:55] I was trying to read a bunch of stuff last night and this morning about some of the questions that they might ask. [00:34:02] And it's really interesting. [00:34:04] I saw like one guy who was a consultant said, like, one of the best questions to ask a potential juror is, do you have any bumper stickers? [00:34:15] That is a good one. [00:34:17] Because what you want to know is if they're like very opinionated. [00:34:20] Whereas if you get a guy who's like, yeah, I'm the bumper sticker king. [00:34:23] They call me Mr. Crazy. [00:34:24] You don't want to. [00:34:25] Coexist. [00:34:26] Coexists with the swastikas. [00:34:29] Because you've seen that one. [00:34:30] Coexists with the guns. [00:34:32] I haven't seen any of these. [00:34:33] Uh-huh. [00:34:34] Well, there's all different kinds. [00:34:36] I got Warren. [00:34:37] I got Hitler. [00:34:39] I got every. [00:34:40] You're not going to want this guy. [00:34:42] This guy sees every single angle. [00:34:46] So that is what happens during Voidir. [00:34:48] But before that, which begins on the 4th is basically like the court questionnaire. [00:34:55] Now that has been disclosed. [00:34:58] It's actually been filed and we have a copy of it right here. [00:35:02] And there's some pretty interesting questions. [00:35:04] So, well, there's at first, I don't know if we want to go over this or not, but this part that I've italicized in the notes here. [00:35:10] Judge Allison Nathan. [00:35:12] Shout out. [00:35:14] I'm going to call her Allie McBeal. [00:35:16] Not as that's with all respect. [00:35:19] It's actually, it's a guy. [00:35:21] I'm just kidding. [00:35:23] It's a male Allison. [00:35:27] But yeah, I figure it's, I gotta be, it sort of sounds like you. [00:35:31] So the little, the little part right here. [00:35:35] Oh, you want me to read it? [00:35:36] I would like you to read it. [00:35:37] Okay. [00:35:38] Because, well, let me preface this with, I think a lot of people think that you can't have, like, you have to go into every single court case blind, like totally blind. [00:35:47] Oh, like the scales of justice. [00:35:49] Sure. [00:35:49] Also with one breast exposed. [00:35:52] But in, and that was something I was kind of wondering how this would go here. [00:35:57] But she does seem to sort of cover that. [00:35:59] Okay. [00:36:00] So this is what she says. [00:36:01] Now, as some of you may have already figured out, there's going to be significant press coverage of this trial. [00:36:08] Funny, she says by the podcast Truanon. [00:36:10] That's very cute. [00:36:11] That's crazy. [00:36:12] Some of you may have already heard about this case in the media from the podcast Truanon. [00:36:17] That's so funny that she just keeps talking about it. [00:36:19] And that is okay. [00:36:21] I think we're pretty good. [00:36:22] But from this moment on, I instruct you that you are not to read or watch or listen to anything that has anything at all to do with this case or anyone involved in this case. [00:36:33] You are not to discuss this case among yourselves. [00:36:35] You are not to discuss it with anyone, including your family, friends, anyone. [00:36:38] You may say that you are part of the jury selection process in a criminal case in federal court, but that is all you may say. [00:36:44] Moreover, you are not to do any research through any means about the case or anyone involved in it. [00:36:51] That includes the defendant, includes the judge, it includes the lawyers, it includes any other names you hear about today. [00:36:59] And it means, among other things, that you are not to chatter. [00:37:03] That's very cute. [00:37:04] Oh, Allie. [00:37:05] You are not to chatter about it on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, or any other social media services. [00:37:12] You are not to read anything about it online or in the paper. [00:37:15] You are not to watch or listen to anything about it on television, the radio, or on podcasts. [00:37:19] Okay, that last one is not true. [00:37:22] You're not to do a Google search or any other kind of search. [00:37:25] No bing. [00:37:26] She doesn't say that. [00:37:26] I'm just adding that in. [00:37:29] You may not do any of that, and that is very important. [00:37:32] As I'm sure you understand, we must ensure that we all have a jury of citizens who will decide the issues in the case based only on the evidence that is presented in court during the trial. [00:37:42] Now, here's the thing: what's the thing? [00:37:46] That's not going to happen. [00:37:48] No. [00:37:48] If they're like, don't Google it, you know what I'm doing? [00:37:51] Number one? [00:37:52] Well, that's, I mean, you're. [00:37:53] You're typing that bitch into duck, duck, go. [00:37:55] Yeah, Dennis the menace over here is like, well, technically, you didn't say duck, duck, go. [00:38:00] Whoa, Ghillain, actually, you see what this lady did? [00:38:05] This is crazy. [00:38:06] Then I'm getting on the mic during jury selection, which I assume they give you a microphone. [00:38:11] And I'm going. [00:38:12] Oh, man, you are going to be wowed by how this actually works. [00:38:16] You know, this lady is a pedophile. [00:38:18] She was Jeffrey Epstein. [00:38:20] Give every potential juror like a five-minute. [00:38:23] So you got to do a type five. [00:38:24] Yeah, yeah, type five. [00:38:26] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:38:28] I don't know how they're going to do this. [00:38:30] I've done a type five or two of my time. [00:38:32] No. [00:38:32] Can you cut that, please? [00:38:34] No, keep it in. [00:38:35] And No, but I don't know. [00:38:39] I mean, look, it's not an OJ situation in the sense that, like, literally every single, yeah, every single person. [00:38:48] There was, you couldn't find anyone who didn't know anything about OJ. [00:38:51] Yeah. [00:38:51] Well, I was like a baby, basically. [00:38:53] Yeah, well, babies can't be jurors, which, by the way, is something that maybe we should re-examine. [00:38:59] Ridiculous. [00:39:00] They're blind. [00:39:01] They're brand new. [00:39:03] They are not sullied by human experience. [00:39:05] They can't. [00:39:06] They draw a sense of justice, babies. [00:39:08] Evenly. [00:39:11] No, but I'm saying, like, is there anyone in New York that doesn't know who Gillay Max was? [00:39:17] I gotta be real. [00:39:18] So, this is actually a problem that I had a friend who is a lawyer tell me about once and that I've assumed is a real thing ever since then have repeated it. [00:39:29] I don't know if it actually is, but the deal with jury selection is if you're smart, you're not setting one foot into the courtroom to do it. [00:39:38] The number one thing is, have you, do you have any advanced degree? [00:39:42] You're out of there, buddy. [00:39:44] Is that true? [00:39:44] Well, it's a big red flag. [00:39:46] Yeah, you don't want anyone who's like well-educated. [00:39:49] I know. [00:39:49] What I'm saying is, if you are like, like, if you're smart, Liz, you're never going to do jury duty because you'd be like, I have cancer. [00:39:59] Oh, no, I don't want to go do, I have to go to work. [00:40:03] Yeah. [00:40:04] Every time I get called up for jury duty a lot, and I've never been able to be like, well, I have to, I'm like, because they don't, they pay like what, five bucks a day. [00:40:12] I think it's more now. [00:40:13] Yeah, but you don't you get like a nice little like sack lunch or something? [00:40:16] You get it, you do get a sack lunch, but I mean that's the you did? [00:40:20] I wanted to do it. [00:40:21] Yeah. [00:40:23] Oh my god. [00:40:24] He just wants to do it. [00:40:25] Oh my god. [00:40:26] First of all, he probably saw someone. [00:40:27] You are the most, you're like the typical cartoon version of the guy who wants to be on the jury. [00:40:34] Yeah. [00:40:35] I, the fact that you just said, oh, I was the foreman. [00:40:38] Wait, you were on a jury? [00:40:40] Yes. [00:40:41] Dude, if you and he's mad, proud, he said he was the foreman. [00:40:44] Bro, if you convicted me, I straight up, I would appeal. [00:40:49] I would never go to jail from your say-so. [00:40:53] What? [00:40:53] No, but this is the thing. [00:40:55] So I agree. [00:40:56] Smart people. [00:40:58] It's easy to get out of it. [00:40:59] And I'm just not saying, obviously. [00:41:00] Smart people you wanted to be on a job. [00:41:01] Now it makes you feel like an asshole. [00:41:03] Well, now I feel bad because that happened during much of my. [00:41:06] I mean, granted, I was like, basically, like, I've been in a lot of trouble. [00:41:11] So I think I would not be able to do most court cases. [00:41:15] If I want you. [00:41:16] Yeah, but like. [00:41:18] You bring a colorful perspective. [00:41:19] Yeah. [00:41:20] But like, a lot of times I think they ask if you've ever been in trouble yourself. [00:41:25] And I have been in trouble myself. [00:41:30] Yeah. [00:41:31] Anyway, so, but, But like the problem is, it's like a lot of times I kind of have a lot of like lunkheads that go to that do it, you know? [00:41:39] I'm sure many of you who've been on juries will be thinking of other jurors, not you, that you know they're coming to mind right now. [00:41:46] Yeah, your fellow jurors. [00:41:47] But like if you don't know who Ghelane Maxwell is and you're getting called up to this, incredible. [00:41:53] I want to talk to you. [00:41:55] You might be during the trial. [00:41:58] Please. [00:41:58] Yeah, please contact us. [00:42:00] Yeah, please. [00:42:01] Well, that would, I think they would not, they're not allowed to do that. [00:42:04] But I will, I will definitely. [00:42:06] But no, you really, I have heard that lawyers typically do not want, I mean, especially defense lawyers, they don't want someone who is well-educated. [00:42:16] My dad told me he once told the court he smoked weed a few years ago because he couldn't take the time off work, but had to, he went and like did this. [00:42:24] So he's like, this little, it was like a drug charge. [00:42:27] And so he's like, yeah, I smoke a lot of dope. [00:42:29] Or I guess it was a while ago because it was pre-like legalization. [00:42:32] I have a question for our four men over here. [00:42:36] There's only two men here. [00:42:39] When you are in the selection process, do you know what it's going to be about? [00:42:46] Or are you sort of like guessing, you're sort of like reading between the lines about what the case is? [00:42:51] Or are they just like, hey, this is for the Gillian Maxwell trial? [00:42:53] No, they told us a little bit. [00:42:54] I was on a different jury selection for a different. [00:42:57] Hold up. [00:42:59] You've been like twice? [00:43:01] Yeah, but this one I didn't get. [00:43:03] Do you have hobbies? [00:43:05] I wanted to get out of my job. [00:43:07] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:43:08] See, this is my thing. [00:43:09] But you get paid more at work. [00:43:10] But now that everyone's, you know, either like quitting because they don't want to get back or they got an email job. [00:43:19] These are the only two people. [00:43:19] You can do that from the courtroom these days. [00:43:23] They miss being social, so they're going to want to be on the jury. [00:43:25] They told us it was like a sex crime because some people were like, whoa. [00:43:31] Oh, so they were trying to get people to stay, so they were like luring them with sex crime. [00:43:35] Well, also, no, but if you've seen a question there, too, it's actually, I think you get disqualified if you've ever been the victim or the perpetrator of a sex crime, too. [00:43:42] Right. [00:43:43] Well, that would be, that would make sense. [00:43:44] A lot of people, too, were just like, I'm racist. [00:43:47] They told us. [00:43:48] told you to say i'm right wait i mean they said it was black People were just said, I'm racist. [00:43:55] Yeah, because no one wants to be on a jury. [00:43:57] It's like, I can't be partial because I'm racist. [00:44:00] And then they got dismissed. [00:44:02] Interesting. [00:44:02] Yeah. [00:44:04] Do they film that? [00:44:06] Did you? [00:44:07] I would film that. [00:44:07] That's what I'm saying. [00:44:08] It's great, great blackmail. [00:44:11] Yeah. [00:44:12] Jesus Christ. [00:44:13] Well, I got to say, if you're getting called up to this motherfucker and you do know who Ghelane Maxwell is, just lie and say you don't. [00:44:24] I mean, she says elsewhere in the letter she sends out. [00:44:27] And that was just a small part that Liz read from. [00:44:29] This, like, I understand that you've probably heard about this. [00:44:34] Like, you know, who this is, right? [00:44:36] Just don't do any more research, which I think makes sense in this. [00:44:39] You know what I mean? [00:44:40] It's like, no one's going to go into this being like. [00:44:43] I think Judge Alley seems very cool. [00:44:45] We'll see. [00:44:46] You know, I don't like two people who are a little too judgmental. [00:44:53] That was so stupid. [00:44:55] Well, there's so they also say that you have to wear masks, which means I couldn't do it. [00:44:58] But the jury has to wear masks? [00:45:01] Yeah, because of COVID. [00:45:02] But I feel like that's not fair for because you want, one of the big things in law and order is to see their. [00:45:10] Is that you? [00:45:11] Who's this not fair for? [00:45:13] I don't know both sides what look the whole thing. [00:45:19] I mean, you should be able to see like, how the jury is thinking and kind of like you know, scoping out. [00:45:24] And I want to see a big thing that I want to be able to look at. [00:45:27] Is the jury? [00:45:28] Yeah, and if I can't look at them because they got a mask on, I feel like that's, you know, not fair. [00:45:34] Yeah well, maybe they'll put it down below their nose and you can see if their nostrils flick. [00:45:38] Yeah, like you on the subway. [00:45:39] Yeah dude, I straight up take that shit off on the subway. [00:45:42] Don't sit next to me. [00:45:45] That here's what I say. [00:45:47] What you follow, the little rules, you break the big rules. === Motions and Quibbles (14:44) === [00:45:51] Yeah, that's all I'm gonna. [00:45:52] I know I'm giving people COVID. [00:45:53] That's a huge no-no in today's society, but I think it's fine, all right. [00:46:13] So the questionnaire also got sent out and this is what they're gonna be asking and there's, you know, a bunch of the regular kind of stuff that there is a few questions here that are giving us some info that we maybe didn't really previously have. [00:46:29] One of those is, do you have any unmovable commitments between November 29th 2021, the start of the trial, and approximately January 15th 2022, which is the estimated length for trial? [00:46:42] That's so long, uh-huh. [00:46:44] Well, hopefully a lot of evidence is going to be shown to us soon, but I really don't want it to go that long. [00:46:53] I It's going to be, I think it's fine. [00:46:55] We have to go every day, I know, but maybe during like the expert testimony, like witness stuff, we don't have to go there. [00:47:01] No, we have to go. [00:47:01] We're covering it. [00:47:02] Yeah, but we know what. [00:47:03] I just, all I'm saying is, I was, you know, I'm hoping it'll be a little shorter than that. [00:47:07] Well, much of the basic legal stuff is pretty common to like all jury questionnaires. [00:47:11] Until, you know, like, don't, are you a criminal? [00:47:14] Are you, do you have a friend that's a cop? [00:47:16] Are your dad a cop? [00:47:17] Are you a cop? [00:47:18] Right. [00:47:19] Is your cop? [00:47:19] You have to tell me. [00:47:21] Um, which, as I said on the show before, if AOC or one of these people really wants to make a big change in law enforcement in this country, all these people who's like, you know, these like law reform people, the law you actually have to pass is someone does have to tell you if they're a cop if you ask them. [00:47:38] Because that's not a law. [00:47:40] It should be. [00:47:41] But it should be one. [00:47:42] Yeah. [00:47:42] I used to have to go show guys my track marks. [00:47:44] So they'd ask me, I'd be like, no, I'm not a police officer. [00:47:47] And then they'd be like, well, I still don't believe you. [00:47:48] It's like, yeah, you don't believe me because it's not a law. [00:47:51] Why would I tell you if I was a cop? [00:47:53] But if it's the law and you have to be honest, and it's not honor code, the honor code doesn't work. [00:47:58] Yeah, no, no. [00:47:59] It should. [00:48:01] Does any, do you, in fact, I'll ask you this one, Liz? [00:48:05] No, no. [00:48:05] Do you or does any member of your family or a close friend personally know or have past or present dealings with the defendant in this case, Ghelane Maxwell or her family members? [00:48:15] She is thinking. [00:48:16] Thinking? [00:48:17] No. [00:48:18] Okay. [00:48:20] A little suspicious of that. [00:48:22] Do you or does any member of your family or a close friend personally know or have past or present dealings with Jeffrey Epstein? [00:48:28] No, definitely not. [00:48:30] Uh-huh. [00:48:31] Do you or any member of your family, blah, blah, blah, if you know someone for the Southern District of New York? [00:48:37] That's way too long. [00:48:38] Well, yeah, obviously. [00:48:39] Who doesn't? [00:48:40] And does you or any of your family or a close friend personally know or have any past or present dealings with any of the assistant United States attorneys who are prosecuting this case? [00:48:48] Maureen Coney Comey, Allison Moe, Lady Comey, I forgot. [00:48:53] Lara, I know, that's really the only reason I'm reading this out loud. [00:48:56] Lara Pomerance or Andrew Rohrbach. [00:48:58] That's the thing. [00:49:00] Rohrbach. [00:49:00] Rohrbach. [00:49:02] No, Liz. [00:49:03] Not, it's not a relation to the newscaster. [00:49:08] Maureen Comey, of course, is James Comey's daughter. [00:49:12] So that guy low-key fell off. [00:49:15] Well, I guess maybe Hillary Clinton is going to get her due during this. [00:49:21] That's me doing a wah pedal. [00:49:23] Have you verbally stated or posted your opinion on social media or online about Miss Maxwell or Mr. Epstein? [00:49:30] I don't know. [00:49:32] You've never said anything either way. [00:49:35] I think I've been very even. [00:49:36] You've been, well, yeah, but an opinion is an opinion, even if you have two different ones. [00:49:41] No, I've been very, I've been very what? [00:49:46] No, I probably said a lot of stuff. [00:49:48] And then it asks you to where you did or and what it was. [00:49:54] And then there's like, you know, have you have your opinions about Epstein? [00:49:57] Have you heard about, well, okay, here's another one, too. [00:50:00] And this is a big one, actually. [00:50:02] If you've heard about Jeffrey Epstein, do you think Miss Maxwell's alleged association with Jeffrey Epstein will make it difficult for you to fairly and impartially consider the evidence presented at trial and render a verdict based solely on the evidence? [00:50:15] Which, yeah, I think it would. [00:50:16] Yeah. [00:50:18] That seems. [00:50:19] Well, she's guilty. [00:50:20] So and then it's basically asking if there's anything sexually, you know, it's going to be a sexually, you know, a trial dealing with sexual assault. [00:50:29] You know, will that affect you? [00:50:31] But then this is a one that I think a lot of YouTube fans might have some problems with. [00:50:38] Do you have any specific views or feelings concerning laws regarding the age at which individuals can or cannot consent to sexual activity with other individuals that would affect your ability to serve as a fair and impartial juror? [00:50:53] So that's interesting. [00:50:55] That alone. [00:50:56] Now, that's very interesting because that gets us to some of the other stuff, which is that a bunch of motions were filed trying to, by the defense, trying to block some things. [00:51:07] But one of those had to do with victims who were non-minors. [00:51:12] And I wonder if there's going to be a lot of quibbling. [00:51:15] Oh, yeah. [00:51:16] There's going to be like whole sections of quibbles. [00:51:18] This has been a lot of quibbles in the motions filed already. [00:51:21] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:22] So quibbling on both sides about what, you know, what is and what isn't, kind of age of consent. [00:51:31] Yes. [00:51:32] Arena. [00:51:33] Cue the song. [00:51:37] I can see his little brain, the little hamster in his little brain is running straight to the new order record. [00:51:48] Well, there was a bunch of new orders filed on October 29th. [00:51:55] In fact, flurry of motions were. [00:51:57] You know what? [00:51:58] This podcast has been a masterclass in pivoting. [00:52:03] Dude, we are the segue. [00:52:05] Hey, call me a guy who segues off his own cliff of his estate and dies because I'm Mr. Segway. [00:52:14] You're Mrs. Segway, my grieving widow. [00:52:17] And that is our, unfortunately, you and I are actually brother and sister. [00:52:21] So that are like our really fucked up mutant son, Segway Jr., who we keep locked in a closet. [00:52:27] I don't like that. [00:52:28] He's going to starve to death now that I'm perished. [00:52:32] The Segway died guy died like that. [00:52:35] Did you know that? [00:52:35] Yeah, I did. [00:52:36] Yeah. [00:52:37] Incredible. [00:52:37] Those kind of fell off. [00:52:39] Only cops use Segway. [00:52:41] Yeah, he fell off. [00:52:42] Yeah. [00:52:42] The Segway. [00:52:43] Look at that. [00:52:44] Speaking of Segues. [00:52:48] A ton of motions were filed on the 29th, and I have read through them. [00:52:56] I got to say, all this legal talk, save it for court, buddy. [00:53:01] Right in plain English. [00:53:03] I had to consult with Alan Dershowitz on much of this. [00:53:11] Your Latin dictionary. [00:53:12] It's no, mostly Alan Dershowitz. [00:53:14] Here's my thing. [00:53:15] That's Hebrew. [00:53:16] Why are they using Latin all the time in the law? [00:53:19] Well, most pedophilic language. [00:53:21] So that's probably... [00:53:22] Why? [00:53:23] Do they use an every question? [00:53:24] Because it's ancient? [00:53:25] Well, okay. [00:53:26] Don't get, oh, don't, please, you know, if you're a real true co-host and friend, you would not have asked me that question. [00:53:33] But you know what? [00:53:34] Not going to answer. [00:53:36] A lot of motions filed. [00:53:38] And listen, this has been the modus operandi. [00:53:43] Check out that little Latin right there for Ghillane's team basically since this got into court. [00:53:50] And that makes sense, right? [00:53:51] You want to delay, push back, confuse. [00:53:54] Yeah. [00:53:55] Like, you know, this is your first battle in the war, essentially, is the battle of the motions. [00:54:01] Yes. [00:54:02] Lady lawyer Bobby, Bobby with an eye, remember Ghillen's lawyer, has been filing left and right. [00:54:09] File, file, file. [00:54:10] And you know what? [00:54:11] Like you said, she should. [00:54:13] That's what, if Ghillain did not have a confident lawyer, they wouldn't be filing all this stuff. [00:54:19] You're just trying to throw whatever you can at the wall, see what sticks. [00:54:23] But that doesn't mean that some of it isn't funny. [00:54:26] No. [00:54:27] In fact, it's very funny. [00:54:30] So there's a few things. [00:54:31] My notes here are a little freaked up out of order, but well, you know what? [00:54:35] That's what happens sometimes in the podcast business. [00:54:39] We're not going to read this giant block of text with all the, there's too much going on there. [00:54:46] But we're going to break it down for you a little bit. [00:54:49] So first of all, there's a few different things going on here. [00:54:52] Ghillain's team is trying to get a few things basically like taken out of the tribe. [00:54:58] Yeah, this is the part in Law and Order for fellow fans where they're like, oh, we need to exclude everything. [00:55:05] And they're like, oh no, I hope we didn't do anything wrong when we were collecting evidence. [00:55:09] That makes it so they can exclude evidence. [00:55:13] Exactly. [00:55:14] And so Ghillain's team is actually trying to get evidence gathered in the search of Epstein's home in Palm Beach in 2005 thrown out, which we'll get to in a second. [00:55:22] And I promise we actually will. [00:55:24] That's don't even get mad at me about this. [00:55:26] I'm just listing the things. [00:55:29] There is, which I think is because accuser number three, a lot of that abuse took place in that timeframe in that spot. [00:55:37] That Maxwell maintains that she's not linked to a lot of Epstein stuff. [00:55:41] So a lot of Epstein evidence doesn't really have to involve. [00:55:45] shouldn't be brought in because it doesn't involve her. [00:55:47] They're also trying to get the expert witness for the for the government that they're bringing in. [00:55:55] They're trying to either get her basically not able to testify or they're trying to do a dobert or do bear. [00:56:03] I don't know. [00:56:03] What? [00:56:04] D-A-U-B-E-R-T hearing, which is essentially where they have the like the judge question them. [00:56:11] It's like a it's it's it's, it's just another. [00:56:15] It's just adding another step into it essentially, where they have to have the judge. [00:56:19] And why are they trying to? [00:56:23] What is it about this expert witness that they are so vexed by? [00:56:27] Well, so the expert witness is a woman named Dr. Lisa Rocio Rochio. [00:56:33] Well, it's R-O-C-C-H-I-O, so it's maybe it's, I think it's Ruchio, maybe Rochio, I don't know, I like it anytime. [00:56:42] You want could be Rochio, you can say it any way you want. [00:56:45] She's a professor at Brown psychologist. [00:56:48] She's worked with a lot of victims of grooming and a lot of like, child sex abuse victims. [00:56:55] But the reason that they're trying to get her taken out is Ghelane's team is because they're saying that she okay yeah, she's treated all these so-called victims of grooming because they're like well, they're all self-identified victims of grooming in a private practice, but she's never actually treated any perpetrators of grooming. [00:57:17] So how can she actually be fair and even-handed, which is not both sides, I guess? [00:57:25] Yeah yeah, that's pretty bad. [00:57:27] There's also a ton of Lorilly quibbling about what grooming by proxy mean, even as they they note that dr Lisa Rocio doesn't use that term um, and it wouldn't even be applicable here because, or applicable here because um, Ghelaine herself did groom these women, or these girls, excuse me, for her own purposes. [00:57:46] And Jeffrey Epstein's, not just Epstein's uh, they're also trying to get um, the black book uh, taken out as any sort of evidence. [00:57:58] Now this, I thought was was really interesting here. [00:58:01] So it's government exhibit number 52 uh, and you can, it doesn't say it's the black book and it doesn't identify it as such, but it's very obvious from the way that it's talked about and this is so. [00:58:12] They're trying to have it not be admissible as evidence at trial, and and and and be taken out entirely. [00:58:17] They're saying that there's no way to determine the veracity of it because the person that was in charge of the case, dr Joseph Recery, the the Palm Beach police detective, uh has died. [00:58:30] That's true, that's true, and uh, that means and, and so is Alfredo Rodriguez, the guy who stole Black Book, was arrested in a police sting. [00:58:42] Yes. [00:58:43] Died of the Ugo Chavez cancer. [00:58:47] And well, Recery also died of a fast acting illness. [00:58:50] It's interesting. [00:58:50] I can't remember which one it was. [00:58:52] No, pew, pew. [00:58:54] But, you know, because both of these guys are dead, there's no one that can be called in to attest as to it, to testify rather, to the actual authenticity of it. [00:59:04] The chain of evidence broken. [00:59:06] So that's a big thing with a lot of this, actually. [00:59:08] The providence broken. [00:59:10] Well, they're saying that essentially none of the old evidence gathered from 2005 is admissible because, well, who knows what's happened? [00:59:19] Oh, absolutely. [00:59:20] And I got to say, you know, the handling of that case was maybe not the best. [00:59:25] It could be done. [00:59:25] And so I don't, you know, I have no idea what the custody of a lot of this evidence, like, I know no idea. [00:59:32] I don't think Allie's going to go for it. [00:59:34] I don't think so either. [00:59:36] There's a few other things that they're saying. [00:59:39] She's trying to get that CPUs, these are all in quotes, CPUs, zip CDs, remember those, CDs, and flashcards, which I believe they mean flash drives. [00:59:49] No, no, they used to be cards. [00:59:51] They used to be cards? [00:59:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:59:53] Those are photo things, digital photos, flashcards. [00:59:57] You're not thinking of like the studying tool? [01:00:00] No, I'm being serious. [01:00:01] They were for early digital cameras, the flashcards. [01:00:03] Oh, yes, yeah. [01:00:05] They almost look like SIM cards, but yeah, they still make those. [01:00:09] The search, they're saying that the search warrant inventory identifies numerous electronic storage devices as having been seized. [01:00:15] However, no actual inventory of the alleged contents of these drives appears to have been prepared by anyone in the Palm Beach Police Department. [01:00:22] These items were not identified by hard drive name or number or photo. [01:00:26] Accordingly, there exists no way for anyone to accurately identify what content may have been on any particular device and how that device may or may not relate to any issue in this case. === Twin Torpedoes Amazon (08:14) === [01:00:35] You know what? [01:00:36] That's very interesting. [01:00:38] Why? [01:00:40] One, we know that they never made an inventory of what's actually on those hard drives. [01:00:44] Yes. [01:00:45] Which is interesting. [01:00:46] Yeah. [01:00:47] They should have done that. [01:00:48] Yeah. [01:00:49] Yeah. [01:00:49] I thought they had because, I mean, I assume they had because there had been so much talk about all these hundreds of photos of naked girls on these things. [01:00:58] But you know what? [01:00:58] That's how they get you. [01:00:59] It's illegal to look at pictures of naked young underage girls. [01:01:02] So the detectives couldn't break the law by doing that. [01:01:05] Well, and this, great lesson here. [01:01:07] Never assume anything. [01:01:09] I was also just kidding about that. [01:01:10] I feel like people would take me seriously. [01:01:12] Well, but I'm saying it's very interesting. [01:01:15] And if there isn't an inventory, then I don't know. [01:01:18] I feel like that could have some weight. [01:01:21] Just crazy as I read Judge Allie. [01:01:25] I'm just saying, you know, I could see the logic there. [01:01:48] Well, there's a couple other things too. [01:01:50] Yeah. [01:01:50] Yes. [01:01:51] Well, one, there's a photo that is clearly a this is government exhibit 313, which was seized in 2019. [01:01:59] It was not seized from Miss Maxwell. [01:02:01] No one will testify about where it was taken, who took it, or where it was kept, because the government cannot establish the location of the photograph. [01:02:08] It is not corroborative, as the government claims, of, quote, topless swimming at the Palm Beach pool, which is also not relevant to the allegations here. [01:02:17] Miss Waxwell has not, Maxwell has not challenged other photographs showing a close relationship between Miss Maxwell and Epstein. [01:02:23] We expect there to be evidence of the relationship at trial. [01:02:26] Accordingly, any probative value of the evidence is substantially outweighed by the prejudicial impact of the picture, and it should be excluded. [01:02:34] Well, what they're saying is Ghelain don't want her titties out in the courtroom because she's her titties are out in this photo. [01:02:41] I wouldn't either. [01:02:43] So I understand. [01:02:45] Yeah. [01:02:45] However, based on, again, how Judge Allie has ruled, I could see them, I could see her saying, we don't need to admit that this. [01:02:57] It's not relevant to the case. [01:02:59] Because if it is of adults consenting, then it's not relevant to actual, like, non-consensual sex with minors. [01:03:08] That is true. [01:03:09] Yeah. [01:03:09] Although, if you're the, if you're the government side here, is what you got to do is much like having two fake IDs, lets them look a little less much, look a little less closely at the second one. [01:03:20] Yeah. [01:03:20] You want to add in a bunch of shit you know they'll take out so that they look a little less closely at the other stuff. [01:03:25] Here's the other, here's the defense of it. [01:03:27] Your honor, we need to show a vibe. [01:03:30] We need to show a vibe. [01:03:31] We need to show that this woman was more than willing to take her titties out. [01:03:34] Yeah, there was a definite schmood, if you know what I'm saying. [01:03:38] Oh, absolutely. [01:03:39] What was up with, what's the Edmonton? [01:03:41] When did that start coming around? [01:03:42] Here's the bigger question. [01:03:44] When did it stop? [01:03:45] I think the moment's over. [01:03:47] It's very much over, but I'm glad you said it. [01:03:49] But this brings us to the last, the final, the final point, which now, when you texted this to me, the glee of a little child, Christmas morn, opening up, seeing all the presents under the tree. [01:04:05] You were so excited by this revelation. [01:04:09] Not the analogy I would use. [01:04:12] You couldn't believe it. [01:04:13] There were multiple exclamation points. [01:04:15] There were multiple text messages. [01:04:19] I could feel the cackling through the phone. [01:04:25] This brings us to E, which Khalain's lawyers call the twin torpedoes. [01:04:32] Seized in 2005 and still in the box, unopened. [01:04:38] No witness will testify that Miss Maxwell used these devices. [01:04:42] These items were not and could not have been used in connection with any alleged acts in this case, assuming a foundation can be established. [01:04:50] Accordingly, the exhibit, whether it be photographed or the actual boxed items, should not be admitted. [01:04:57] So the twin torpedoes is, and this is, this is, this is actually, if you Google Twin Torpedoes, Epstein, this is one of the few named devices. [01:05:09] The Twin Torpedoes are a sex toy. [01:05:13] Yes. [01:05:15] That was seized from Epstein's house in Palm Beach. [01:05:21] And there is actually, here we go. [01:05:24] This is, oh, you see, you can hear my Windows machine there. [01:05:28] According to police who execute, this is from the Daily Beast. [01:05:31] According to police who executed a search warrant, the house was decorated with blah, blah, blah, large frame photographs of young girls. [01:05:36] Some bathrooms were stocked with soap in the shape of sex organs, and various sex toys, such as a twin torpedo vibrator and creams and lubricants available at erotic specialty shops were stowed near the massage table set up in several rooms upstairs. [01:05:51] So that also corresponds to the housekeeper and various house manager or house employees testimony that they literally had an armoire of sex toys. [01:06:03] I still, okay, pause for a second. [01:06:05] Uh-huh. [01:06:07] Can you imagine if you like, okay, beside the massage room and there being like vibrators and sex toys everywhere? [01:06:13] Imagine like going into like the guest room, like guest bathroom or like powder room or whatever, and there's just like a dick soap. [01:06:21] Like that's so insane. [01:06:23] I know. [01:06:24] I'd be like, dude, you're 50. [01:06:26] Like, what? [01:06:27] Any age, it's bad. [01:06:29] Yeah, but like, it's, that's like, it's Jeffrey Epstein. [01:06:33] Jeffrey Epstein is not a thing. [01:06:35] He decorated his Palm Beach house like a 45-year-old woman on her second marriage's or third marriage's bachelorette party. [01:06:48] Absolutely. [01:06:48] You know what I'm saying? [01:06:49] Yeah, penis pasta for dinner. [01:06:51] 100%. [01:06:52] Yeah. [01:06:52] Like, it just totally, I mean, so tacky. [01:06:56] Yeah, the man's a moron. [01:06:58] I am very much hoping that, because it's still in the box, which is incredible. [01:07:05] That means it's probably worth a lot of money now. [01:07:08] Yeah, I didn't look into the specifics of the device. [01:07:11] Oh, I did. [01:07:12] I know, but I don't want to, I'm not interested. [01:07:15] You can imagine what it is. [01:07:17] Yeah, I imagine that they were talking about twins. [01:07:22] It's not you think it's like a double-headed type? [01:07:24] There's no like two towers? [01:07:25] There's there's two like egg-shaped things on a wire on a wire? [01:07:32] Maybe I'm well, it's still in the box in the photo. [01:07:35] Oh my god on Amazon. [01:07:36] What is this like from the 80s? [01:07:37] What is this device? [01:07:38] Well, I mean, so there could be several different devices. [01:07:43] I've never bought a sex device. [01:07:44] Yeah. [01:07:45] I've seen about condoms before. [01:07:47] But what was it called? [01:07:50] Twin Torpedoes? [01:07:50] I'm looking it up right now again. [01:07:52] Twin Torpedoes Amazon because it's available on Amazon. [01:07:55] Well, we should get one. [01:07:57] But I don't know if this is the actual one. [01:07:59] Oh, no, wait. [01:08:01] No, I think this is it. [01:08:02] No, it's just in the related things is the thing with the two eggs. [01:08:08] I don't know. [01:08:09] It seems to be a sex device for use by two women or on two parts of the same woman. [01:08:14] Okay. [01:08:15] But yeah, it is. [01:08:18] It's the one in the Amazon photo does look very old, so I'm assuming. [01:08:22] I would say the name's incredible. [01:08:23] The name's incredible. [01:08:24] Yeah, Twin Torpedoes. [01:08:25] Twin Torpedoes. [01:08:26] Now, here's a pivot. [01:08:27] Uh-huh. [01:08:28] Us two. [01:08:29] The Twin Torpedoes. [01:08:30] Two Goofuses covering the trial. [01:08:33] Yeah. [01:08:34] We'll be there. [01:08:35] We'll be there. [01:08:37] Are we ending the episode? [01:08:38] We should. [01:08:38] I think so. [01:08:39] Yeah. [01:08:40] Yeah. [01:08:40] We should name the episode Twin Torpedoes. [01:08:44] That was already before we started the episode going to be the episode title. [01:08:47] Really? [01:08:47] It was already in my head. [01:08:49] You wanted to name it. === Twin Torpedoes (00:40) === [01:08:50] I'm glad Louis C.K. is back. [01:08:52] Nice try. [01:08:54] Well, okay, then we can fucking end the episode. [01:08:57] I'm Liz. [01:08:58] My name is Brace Belden. [01:09:01] The episode was produced, of course, by young Chomsky. [01:09:04] Music is by home. [01:09:06] The podcast is called Truanon. [01:09:07] We will see you next time. [01:09:09] Bye-bye. [01:09:29] Come out, come out.