True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 121: The Usual Suspects
Aired: 2020-12-03
Duration: 01:25:13


=== Brace Belden's Pranksgiving (02:59) ===

[00:00:00]  It's listen.
[00:00:01]  Sorry, I'm inhabiting the gay pussy eater right now.
[00:00:05]  I'll go back to Bryce.
[00:00:11]  We're back after Thanksgiving.
[00:00:13]  Pranksgiving.
[00:00:14]  Oh, are we going?
[00:00:16]  Is this thing on?
[00:00:17]  Yeah, we're going.
[00:00:17]  Are we rolling?
[00:00:18]  What did you do for prank?
[00:00:19]  What was your biggest prank?
[00:00:21]  I didn't prank anyone.
[00:00:23]  What?
[00:00:25]  No.
[00:00:25]  Why?
[00:00:26]  Because I made a turkey.
[00:00:28]  Oh, tell me about it.
[00:00:29]  About my turkey?
[00:00:30]  It was, I made way too much food.
[00:00:33]  Well, yeah.
[00:00:34]  I mean, who doesn't?
[00:00:35]  It's Thanksgiving.
[00:00:36]  Yeah.
[00:00:36]  What about you?
[00:00:37]  What did you do?
[00:00:38]  Well, I did this really good trick where I went to a friend's giving.
[00:00:41]  I was like, oh, no, don't worry.
[00:00:42]  I got tested.
[00:00:43]  I was like, yeah, me too.
[00:00:48]  And then, of course, you know, I don't get tested.
[00:00:50]  I'm not putting that in my nose.
[00:00:52]  That's bad.
[00:00:52]  So I went to the Pranksgiving and I was like, oh, yeah, I found out I did a 23andMe for my birthday and I found out I'm French.
[00:01:03]  And so I started kissing everybody on the mouth and shit.
[00:01:06]  Just like totally pranking them by pretending to be French.
[00:01:10]  Classic prank.
[00:01:11]  Classic prank.
[00:01:11]  Oh, yeah.
[00:01:13]  You know, I spit in the sweet potatoes.
[00:01:14]  I'm always, you know, you know that that's my party trick.
[00:01:18]  And yeah, everyone got COVID.
[00:01:19]  Two of them are dead.
[00:01:21]  But all good.
[00:01:22]  Hello, Brace.
[00:01:47]  Hey, sorry.
[00:01:49]  Sorry for what?
[00:01:50]  I'm just everything.
[00:01:52]  Shame.
[00:01:53]  I'm in a shame spiral.
[00:01:54]  No, stop it.
[00:01:56]  Okay.
[00:01:56]  We're back.
[00:01:59]  podcasting.
[00:02:01]  We always do that because it feels like to us, like, we've taken a really long break.
[00:02:05]  But then for people listening, they're like, what are you talking about?
[00:02:07]  It's been like four days.
[00:02:08]  And we unlocked an episode.
[00:02:10]  So like most people probably didn't even notice.
[00:02:13]  Well, we're here to remind you that we infected in podcasts for what?
[00:02:17]  For a week.
[00:02:18]  I was busy delivering turkeys to old folks' homes in places with zero COVID restrictions.
[00:02:23]  Oh, that's nice.
[00:02:24]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:25]  Turns out they like the close hug.
[00:02:28]  I hate it.
[00:02:29]  I used to have to go see Carol.
[00:02:30]  When I was in the Boy Scouts briefly or the Cub Scouts, I used to have to go see Carols at old folks' homes.
[00:02:36]  Scared the shit out of me.
[00:02:37]  No.
[00:02:38]  You don't start to appreciate old people until you turn like 15.
[00:02:41]  You're like, oh, yes.
[00:02:42]  That's true.
[00:02:43]  That's very true.
[00:02:44]  They're scary when you're little.
[00:02:46]  When you're tiny, yeah.
[00:02:47]  Yeah.
[00:02:48]  Plus, this one was from World War II vet.
[00:02:49]  Unless they're your grandpa and then they're okay.
[00:02:52]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:52]  Yeah.
[00:02:53]  This was in Hamburg, Germany.
[00:02:57]  Awesome.
[00:02:58]  Hello, everyone.
[00:02:59]  I'm Liz.

=== Liz And The Surprising Reunion (09:06) ===

[00:03:00]  Hey, my name is Lou Dogg, the dog from Sublime, the band.
[00:03:04]  I don't bother to say that.
[00:03:06]  AKA Brace Belden coming at you.
[00:03:10]  We also have here with us on the ones and twos, which is an instrument that I thought was in Sublime, but now that I'm saying the sentence, I don't think was.
[00:03:17]  Young Chomsky.
[00:03:18]  And the podcast is called Lou Anon, all about Lou Dog, the dog from Sublime.
[00:03:23]  Dude, remember Lou Dobbs?
[00:03:25]  Is he still going?
[00:03:26]  Lou Dobbs, remember?
[00:03:28]  He's just like a current guy.
[00:03:30]  He's still on?
[00:03:31]  Yeah, he's still on.
[00:03:32]  He seems to like, I think he's had like a stroke every 15 minutes, maybe because he's not like, he's not like the music.
[00:03:41]  He's just like Mr. Stroke.
[00:03:42]  Those dudes are over, though.
[00:03:44]  Those guys are over.
[00:03:44]  Trump is like...
[00:03:45]  Trump took their bit.
[00:03:47]  Well, not only did Trump take their bit, but like Trump is now just like, fuck Fox.
[00:03:51]  I'm doing OAN and Newsmax.
[00:03:53]  It's been nice to see Newsmax come up.
[00:03:55]  Do I have Newsmax?
[00:03:57]  Like if I have, I don't have cable.
[00:03:59]  Wait, I have internet cable, so I don't have Newsmax.
[00:04:02]  I think internet cable just means you have the internet.
[00:04:05]  No, I have like, you know how on, like, I have it through Hulu where I have like live TV or whatever.
[00:04:10]  Oh, I don't, I have no idea.
[00:04:12]  I, I, I, that's like a, seems like a sports thing.
[00:04:15]  Yeah, that's why I have it actually.
[00:04:16]  I read Chaucer every Sunday.
[00:04:18]  I don't like it.
[00:04:19]  I read the Canterbury Tales every Sunday.
[00:04:21]  I don't watch.
[00:04:22]  Yeah.
[00:04:22]  This is the guy in your MFA class, ladies.
[00:04:25]  I'm in your MFA.
[00:04:26]  I'm asking for your number every single fucking day.
[00:04:29]  Once you give it to me, I'm sending you weird fucking texts.
[00:04:32]  You're going to be like, why are you doing this?
[00:04:34]  And I'll be like, I'm the guy from your MFA.
[00:04:35]  Don't you remember me?
[00:04:37]  Here's the thing.
[00:04:38]  If I was in an MFA program, I mean, I would date someone in the program.
[00:04:42]  Yeah.
[00:04:42]  So what's wrong with the guy from the MFA program?
[00:04:45]  Yeah, I don't understand it.
[00:04:46]  I'm just looking for.
[00:04:47]  It's just a person.
[00:04:49]  BBW, Brace's beautiful woman.
[00:04:52]  Yeah, okay.
[00:04:53]  Sorry.
[00:04:55]  My bad.
[00:04:56]  Shouldn't have done that.
[00:04:57]  Maybe we should just get into the episode.
[00:04:59]  Let's do it.
[00:05:00]  So turns out, I just found out about this whole thing.
[00:05:03]  Turns out there was this guy who was like a child molester who was really rich, who was going around doing that a lot of different places.
[00:05:11]  And he was friends with like all these famous people.
[00:05:13]  And then he died somehow.
[00:05:15]  And now there's some lady involved.
[00:05:17]  And I think she's in either jail or some sort of facility.
[00:05:22]  And I guess we have this podcast.
[00:05:24]  Wait, what?
[00:05:25]  Yeah, It's the, it's the, yeah, it's the, he's a Jewish guy.
[00:05:30]  Oh, that makes sense.
[00:05:31]  Just kidding.
[00:05:34]  Wow, rare, rare, rare olive branch from Liz to me right there on the anti-Semitism.
[00:05:39]  I know, I was doing my best brace fit.
[00:05:42]  Yeah, today we are going back in our bag.
[00:05:45]  We got to talk Epstein because we haven't checked in with some of these guys in a while.
[00:05:50]  We did talk about some updates to the case last week.
[00:05:52]  So, okay, that's only half true.
[00:05:54]  But there's a lot of characters in the extended Epstein universe, which is quite extended, that we have to do it.
[00:06:01]  Also, the same universe as the cartoon Steven universe, which I found a little odd.
[00:06:06]  What is that?
[00:06:07]  It's like a cartoon that people get really mad at the podcast seem to like.
[00:06:10]  Really?
[00:06:11]  What is that?
[00:06:12]  I honestly don't know.
[00:06:13]  I don't know anything about that person.
[00:06:15]  I felt like that was a good idea.
[00:06:16]  I feel like you were watching cartoons there.
[00:06:18]  I don't know, man.
[00:06:19]  Everyone is.
[00:06:20]  Just watch real people.
[00:06:21]  Well, no, don't watch that.
[00:06:22]  Read Chaucer.
[00:06:23]  The Canterbury Tales.
[00:06:26]  Okay, okay.
[00:06:27]  So we have a lot.
[00:06:30]  So I want to get into this because we actually do have a lot of people to get to.
[00:06:34]  A lot of characters that we haven't heard from in a while.
[00:06:37]  So this is like a Where Are They Now kind of special, right?
[00:06:42]  Imagine us, like, it's 2008, and Brace and I are hosting a VH1 show called Where Are They Now?
[00:06:56]  This seems like a very VH1 kind of thing, right?
[00:06:59]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:07:00]  I feel like this is where we're like, do you remember you were in Def Leppard at this time?
[00:07:03]  And it'll be like, and then Michael Ian Black will come in and be like, say something stupid.
[00:07:07]  And everyone will be like, God, he is so funny.
[00:07:09]  Julia Roberts is a reluctant streetwalker.
[00:07:12]  Work it.
[00:07:13]  Work it, baby.
[00:07:14]  Work it.
[00:07:14]  Richard Gere is a billionaire playboy.
[00:07:18]  This isn't a date, it's business.
[00:07:20]  The two meet.
[00:07:21]  Sparks fly.
[00:07:22]  Love flourishes.
[00:07:24]  A whoer, no moor.
[00:07:26]  But then like 10 years later, everyone will be like, can't believe I thought he was funny.
[00:07:29]  Yeah, I'm so glad that guy's in prison now.
[00:07:33]  Is he?
[00:07:34]  Wait.
[00:07:34]  Oh, he helped kill.
[00:07:36]  No, no, he blew up the lady from the Panama Papers thing.
[00:07:40]  No.
[00:07:40]  Remember that Lady Guy?
[00:07:41]  Did he write a book with Megan McCain?
[00:07:43]  He's like a radical centrist now, isn't he?
[00:07:46]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:07:46]  I guarantee he, I mean, speaking of BBWs, he definitely fucked Megan McCain.
[00:07:51]  And she is.
[00:07:53]  I know.
[00:07:54]  I think I mentioned that.
[00:07:54]  Is that a beautiful Brace woman?
[00:07:56]  Absolutely, Megan McCain is.
[00:07:58]  Really?
[00:07:59]  Not like physically.
[00:08:02]  I haven't seen her legs either.
[00:08:03]  And, you know, it's not like a spiritual attraction.
[00:08:08]  You know how sometimes I have.
[00:08:09]  I think it's like a domination thing.
[00:08:11]  There's this.
[00:08:12]  Whoa, whoa.
[00:08:13]  Whoa.
[00:08:14]  No, it's just.
[00:08:16]  I don't know.
[00:08:17]  It's okay.
[00:08:18]  Well, no, no.
[00:08:19]  Keep it in, Liz.
[00:08:20]  That's how you think of me.
[00:08:21]  Keep it in.
[00:08:22]  I know that I'm wearing a dog collar and I'm surrounded by seven-foot-tall women in heels.
[00:08:26]  No, I mean, the other way around.
[00:08:28]  I'm in it the other way.
[00:08:29]  Mean.
[00:08:30]  Yeah.
[00:08:30]  No, man.
[00:08:32]  I don't need to do that.
[00:08:35]  Is it because of the gun thing?
[00:08:36]  I don't know because she seems like an adversary.
[00:08:39]  She.
[00:08:39]  No, she's not an adversary.
[00:08:41]  We're all human beings, brother.
[00:08:44]  Listen, this is a big ass crow.
[00:08:46]  Let's just get into this.
[00:08:47]  Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:08:48]  So, anyways, Epstein, of course, died, you know, August 10th, 2019.
[00:08:53]  He hanged himself, bam, snapped his neck.
[00:08:57]  Anyways, we all know that.
[00:08:59]  You know, a lot of mysteries and questions surrounding that, which we've dealt with on this podcast.
[00:09:04]  We didn't really talk so much about where Epstein is now.
[00:09:08]  So Epstein was claimed by his brother, Mark, which is a very brother name.
[00:09:14]  People are like, that's like such a brother that you've never heard of.
[00:09:17]  Like your brother Mark.
[00:09:18]  Oh, yeah, no, this is my brother Mark.
[00:09:20]  I haven't told you about him before.
[00:09:21]  Like one of those guys.
[00:09:23]  Absolutely.
[00:09:24]  Mark, we'll get to him a little later.
[00:09:25]  He is guilty as, well, it's about as guilty as anybody here.
[00:09:30]  Anyways, everyone remembers two autopsies, one by the Department of Corrections, which was like, this guy was depressed and he killed himself.
[00:09:37]  Another by Mr. Michael Baden, who has basically done an autopsy on every single famous corpse that you can remember, including some, I believe he was involved with losing a piece of JFK's brain as well.
[00:09:51]  He's old as shit.
[00:09:52]  Yeah, yeah, he's like 90.
[00:09:53]  I think one of his assistants just got arrested for being a fake coroner.
[00:09:58]  Oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:10:00]  I saw that.
[00:10:01]  I like briefly scanned it and scanned the article to see if it had anything to do with this.
[00:10:05]  It does not.
[00:10:05]  But yeah, one of one of Baden.
[00:10:07]  He had no medical license.
[00:10:09]  That's wild.
[00:10:10]  So you can just cut.
[00:10:11]  Because it's like, that's not like, that's not like the talented Mr. Ripley.
[00:10:14]  You're just like, yeah, I'll cut this guy open.
[00:10:16]  Oh, yeah, he got shot.
[00:10:18]  You know, I have a thing.
[00:10:19]  I feel like a lot of morticians, unlicensed.
[00:10:22]  Why do you feel?
[00:10:23]  I don't know.
[00:10:24]  I've only like I have a vibe that like it's like kind of a thing that like weirdos, like kind of like you know, worm their way in and, you know, can get away with not being licensed.
[00:10:34]  My friend Mortician no, she's no, but she's legit and real.
[00:10:38]  Yeah yeah, she went to school.
[00:10:40]  I can't mean who.
[00:10:40]  What's the what's the problem?
[00:10:42]  Everyone knows what's in the body.
[00:10:43]  A couple of no one's paying attention.
[00:10:45]  You know what I mean.
[00:10:46]  And so yeah, checking the cards yeah exactly well anyways, Michael Baden cuts this motherfucker open.
[00:10:52]  He's like, oh bam, Hyoid boy.
[00:10:53]  I mean, I don't got to get into this.
[00:10:55]  Everybody knows this, you know he says it could be murder.
[00:10:57]  So i'm not talking about the Hyoid boy.
[00:10:59]  We already talked about the Hyoid Bond a million fucking times.
[00:11:01]  I'm talking about what happened after all of this.
[00:11:04]  Uh, Mark actually held a little funeral for Jeff Epstein at the Frank E Campbell Funeral Chapel on Madison Avenue.
[00:11:11]  Uh, unfortunately and this is actually a fucking shame that nobody had every funeral staked, Excuse me, funeral home in New York staked out in order to see who came.
[00:11:21]  But apparently, there was a small ceremony, which I'm very curious as to the guest list of, but it has not been leaked or even whispered at anywhere.
[00:11:30]  And he was moved to a town called, check this out.
[00:11:33]  Let me try to do this.
[00:11:34]  Loxahatchie, Florida, where he was interned in a grave which does not have a name on it, or excuse me, in like a not a grave, like a tomb, I guess, next to his parents, Seymour and Paula.
[00:11:49]  Their names used to be on it.
[00:11:50]  I believe everyone's name is removed now.
[00:11:52]  Really?
[00:11:53]  Yes.
[00:11:53]  I bet we could figure out which one it is.
[00:11:55]  And there's pictures of it, actually.
[00:11:56]  Like, they actually are, like, they do know which one it is.
[00:11:59]  It just doesn't have his name on it.
[00:12:00]  We should, well, we'll talk about this after.
[00:12:02]  I don't know what we would do.
[00:12:04]  We could get his body.

=== Paradise Papers Unveiled (04:43) ===

[00:12:06]  Oh.
[00:12:07]  What are you talking about?
[00:12:08]  What do you want to do?
[00:12:09]  We just went to take some pictures.
[00:12:10]  I was like, kind of boring pictures.
[00:12:12]  No, I don't fucking care about that.
[00:12:13]  What is it, Johnny?
[00:12:14]  I'm going to Johnny Ramon's grave.
[00:12:16]  No, I want to get his body.
[00:12:18]  What if, dude, what if we got his hyoid bone?
[00:12:21]  Well, it's broken.
[00:12:22]  So you could have some and I could have it.
[00:12:24]  Which bone?
[00:12:25]  We could all have it.
[00:12:26]  That's nice.
[00:12:28]  Anyways, the thing that I found curious about this is Epstein's whole thing was like cryogenically freeze me and bam.
[00:12:36]  Yeah, to do it.
[00:12:37]  He's in Florida, one of the least freezing places in America.
[00:12:40]  Maybe they froze him and he milked.
[00:12:42]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, could be.
[00:12:43]  Global warming.
[00:12:44]  He's just in a little bit of a jar.
[00:12:47]  Anyways, the Daily Mail was the people who did the really heavy-hitting reporting on this.
[00:12:52]  And by that, I mean they sent a guy to the funeral to take a picture, excuse me, to the graveyard to take a picture of a blank gravestone.
[00:12:59]  And when contacted by the Daily Mail, Mark Epstein told them to fuck off.
[00:13:04]  And so that appears to be the kind of comments we'll be getting from this loser gentleman.
[00:13:09]  Interesting.
[00:13:10]  I kind of like that attitude.
[00:13:13]  There's also, I mean, we haven't talked much about the lawsuit that Epstein's estate is involved in.
[00:13:18]  I mean, okay, there's a lot.
[00:13:20]  But the one, there's one that the Attorney General for the U.S. Virgin Islands filed against Epstein's estate that's actually getting pretty interesting.
[00:13:30]  It's a bit confusing, and we probably have to do an episode on it because it involves actually more, it's more about the financial angle of Epstein's empire, aka how he was moving money around.
[00:13:44]  We've talked on the episode about all the kind of offshore companies that he was establishing and his ties with like Bear Stearns and Goldman Sachs and a lot of that being in the Panama, or not the Panama Papers, but the other one?
[00:13:59]  Paradise Papers.
[00:14:00]  Paradise Papers.
[00:14:01]  Thank you.
[00:14:02]  The Paradise Papers.
[00:14:04]  But so AG for the U.S. Virgin Islands, Denise George, great name.
[00:14:11]  Like I've always say, there's a lot of great names in this whole universe.
[00:14:16]  Ensemble.
[00:14:17]  Denise George brought the case against the Epstein estate actually back in January.
[00:14:21]  And the claim is that the estate itself is an ongoing criminal enterprise.
[00:14:27]  So they're suing the estate on civil racketeering grounds, which is really interesting.
[00:14:32]  And they're claiming that Epstein's lawyer, Darren K. Indike, another great name, and the accountant Richard Khan.
[00:14:40]  Classic, we love Kahn.
[00:14:42]  are co-conspirators in the racketeering operation.
[00:14:47]  And so Denise asked the U.S. District Judge Loretta Presca.
[00:14:53]  Now, that name may be familiar to longtime listeners of the podcast because this is the judge in the Virginia Jeffrey Maxwell civil case.
[00:15:04]  So Denise asked that judge to grant the U.S. Territory intervener status, which would allow them access to a bunch of the materials that are still under seal in the U.S. District of Southern or the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York in the Maxwell Jeffrey case, right?
[00:15:24]  So basically, the U.S. Virgin Islands is trying to get sealed documents from the Maxwell-Jeffrey case and like all of the people that were deposed, the people that the state called, all that for their, on the grounds for their civil racketeering case.
[00:15:46]  And it looks like that actually might happen.
[00:15:50]  Presco ruled that no later than December 10th, Jeffrey's attorneys must provide to the U.S. Virgin Islands under seal a copy of Epstein's deposition, Epstein himself's deposition, in the Jeffrey Maxwell lawsuit and all the exhibits that are attached to it.
[00:16:06]  So it's getting pretty interesting.
[00:16:08]  I don't know if we're ever going to see any of this, but it's, I mean, I think the financial angle has always been probably one of the strongest angles against Estonia.
[00:16:20]  Well, and this case has kind of been popping up all over when I was doing research for this, my parts of this episode.
[00:16:27]  There are some subpoenas being issued, like to Glenn Dubin's kids and stuff like that.
[00:16:32]  And so one thing that actually has gone pretty underreported, I think probably because there's probably not a lot of reporters who know this very well, but the Virgin Islands sort of like bureaucracy and government actually had a lot of ties to Epstein.

=== Quarantine Insights (03:26) ===

[00:16:49]  And, you know, Virgin Islands are much smaller than much smaller fry than anybody else basically he dealt with.
[00:16:56]  But it turns out, like, I think the former, the wife of the former governor of the Virgin Islands was employed by him.
[00:17:02]  You know, he spread his money all over there because it probably went pretty far there.
[00:17:06]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:17:08]  So we should also, while we're talking about Epstein, we should check in with Gillan.
[00:17:13]  So the last time we checked in with Ghillan, there were some, she was not too happy.
[00:17:19]  She was locked up in the clink.
[00:17:22]  And guess what?
[00:17:23]  She's still there.
[00:17:25]  She's still hanging out.
[00:17:26]  She's hosed down in the hooscal.
[00:17:28]  Yeah, the MDC, the Metropolitan Detention Center in NYC.
[00:17:34]  Basically, a week ago, a staff member at the jail tested positive for COVID.
[00:17:38]  And now she's been placed on mandatory 14-day quarantine again.
[00:17:43]  So when she was first moved into the jail, she was placed on quarantine.
[00:17:48]  Then she's been put in isolation after that.
[00:17:50]  She's not, the attorneys asked to get her into the general population.
[00:17:54]  Denied.
[00:17:55]  I would not ask for that, though.
[00:17:58]  Well, that's what she wanted.
[00:18:00]  I think because it gave her like more freedom.
[00:18:03]  But now she's back from isolation into quarantine.
[00:18:07]  Now, what do you think the difference is?
[00:18:09]  I had to look this up because I was like, what the fuck is the difference between isolation and quarantine?
[00:18:12]  Like, literally, I'm going to tell you right now, I don't know because I've been in quarantine and isolation, it feels like.
[00:18:19]  Yeah.
[00:18:20]  But it doesn't seem like there would be much of a difference to me.
[00:18:23]  It turns out that isolation means she's permitted out of her cell from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.
[00:18:28]  But with quarantine, she like literally can't leave.
[00:18:34]  So she is like not doing that well in jail, apparently.
[00:18:37]  She has lost 25 pounds, reportedly.
[00:18:43]  Say that again.
[00:18:43]  Yeah.
[00:18:44]  25 pounds.
[00:18:45]  25 pounds, reportedly.
[00:18:47]  She's been in jail since July.
[00:18:48]  25 pounds.
[00:18:50]  You know what I say?
[00:18:51]  But for you.
[00:18:52]  I mean, that's the thing.
[00:18:53]  Everyone's talking about all this stuff they want to do during quarantine.
[00:18:56]  I'm going to learn French.
[00:18:57]  Like, I'm going to, you know, lose 25 pounds in jail for pedophilia.
[00:19:03]  And no one ever does it.
[00:19:04]  And you know what?
[00:19:05]  She did it.
[00:19:05]  Yeah.
[00:19:06]  It's a productive quarantine, it sounds like.
[00:19:09]  I, I, yeah, I gotta, you know, everyone's been talking about getting their COVID bod.
[00:19:14]  So, you know, gotta get it back because get, you know, what?
[00:19:17]  Summer, the summer post-COVID is coming up, Bruce.
[00:19:21]  Oh, it's gonna be one of the horniest summers of mankind.
[00:19:23]  Everyone's getting pregnant.
[00:19:25]  Everyone, yeah.
[00:19:26]  Well, especially because of what I put in the water.
[00:19:29]  I'm serious, though.
[00:19:30]  It's gonna be like fucking people don't understand.
[00:19:32]  Next summer is gonna be the wildest summer of your entire life.
[00:19:35]  There's gonna be so many mass shootings.
[00:19:37]  It's gonna be so shootings.
[00:19:41]  Absolutely.
[00:19:41]  I bet.
[00:19:42]  I think people are just gonna be like doing it in the streets.
[00:19:46]  Mass shootings?
[00:19:49]  Okay, back to Ghillan.
[00:19:50]  So, yes, she's lost 25 pounds.
[00:19:53]  She apparently in jail.
[00:19:55]  She's awakened every 15 minutes with a flashlight because prison personnel are fearful she may, you know, Epstein didn't kill himself.
[00:20:06]  Wait, that, that, so I do know that is like a thing they check on you, but like 15 minutes is that is kind of every 15 minutes.
[00:20:13]  That's sucking.
[00:20:14]  They should just have someone stay in there with her.

=== Peta's Letter to Derek Edge (02:22) ===

[00:20:16]  Hey.
[00:20:17]  Yeah, like, hey, hey.
[00:20:18]  Hey.
[00:20:18]  Hey, sorry.
[00:20:20]  Can you?
[00:20:21]  Sorry to wake you up.
[00:20:22]  I'm so sorry.
[00:20:23]  I'm just getting water.
[00:20:24]  I'm just getting water.
[00:20:25]  No, it's.
[00:20:25]  Are you okay?
[00:20:26]  Oh.
[00:20:26]  Sorry, I don't want to wake you, but I've just been thinking.
[00:20:30]  I've just been thinking.
[00:20:31]  Can we talk?
[00:20:33]  You're too tired.
[00:20:33]  We'll talk in the morning.
[00:20:34]  Oh, my God.
[00:20:36]  That's so real.
[00:20:37]  She also has no soap or toothbrushes.
[00:20:41]  Oh, well, what?
[00:20:41]  That's probably like half of our male listeners.
[00:20:43]  It's fun.
[00:20:44]  They'll be like, what's the problem?
[00:20:45]  I mean, she's British.
[00:20:46]  They don't eat it.
[00:20:46]  Gargle in the shower.
[00:20:48]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:20:49]  Well, what I learned from this is that she's vegan.
[00:20:52]  Yes, I saw this too.
[00:20:54]  And I, okay, listen, listeners, listen up.
[00:20:59]  Brace and I have done a lot of research on this lady.
[00:21:02]  We know a lot about this lady.
[00:21:04]  We know things that we can't say on this podcast about this lady.
[00:21:09]  I have never heard that she's vegan.
[00:21:11]  I have never seen this.
[00:21:13]  It's incredible.
[00:21:15]  I'd like to read from a press release, if I may, Liz.
[00:21:19]  From one of our sister organizations that we're on the NGO networks with.
[00:21:24]  This is, give Ghelane Maxwell her vegan meals, says PETA.
[00:21:29]  Oh, my God.
[00:21:29]  Maxwell should receive non-violent, flesh-free meals, and so should all other inmates.
[00:21:35]  Following reports that the prison isn't feeding vegan Ghelane Maxwell plant-based food, PETA sent a letter this morning to Metropolitan Detention Center, MDC, in Brooklyn, Warden Derek Edge, offering, I said that weird.
[00:21:48]  Derek Edge?
[00:21:49]  Warden Derek Edge offering its help and experience in working with other prisons to serve meat and dairy.
[00:21:58]  What prisons are working with PETA to give vegan meals?
[00:22:02]  I mean, that sounds like prison to me, I'm not going to lie.
[00:22:04]  Listen to the rest of this, which would not only be the humane thing to do, but also save the prison costs, reduce violence, and benefit all inmates.
[00:22:14]  Regardless of how anyone feels about Miss Maxwell, no one should be forced to eat the corpse of an animal who felt pain and fear and didn't want to die, said PETA president Ingrid Newkirk.
[00:22:25]  PETA will gladly help the MDC make the switch to greens and beans, a healthy, humane, and cost-effective option that holds the key to reducing violence in the prison population and throughout any community.

=== PETA's Vegan Push (12:13) ===

[00:22:38]  You heard that right.
[00:22:39]  Veganism, I guess, will stop violence in prison.
[00:22:44]  Yeah, apparently she was given a traditional American Thanksgiving dinner, which she was very upset about.
[00:22:50]  Now, it's unclear if this is how she lost 25 pounds, just like not eating whatever she's being given, or if she's like trying to get her bod back.
[00:23:00]  But she is also not allowed to have a bra So, why?
[00:23:08]  I think because it's like one of the because you can pull the wire out and use that to like either escape, which would be very cool, or probably like you could like slit your wrist.
[00:23:21]  What about those bras that women wear with backless gowns?
[00:23:24]  Couldn't she get one of those?
[00:23:25]  Like the sticky things?
[00:23:27]  Yeah, couldn't she get like a stickies?
[00:23:29]  I think stickies.
[00:23:30]  Yeah, I just don't know anything.
[00:23:32]  I just wouldn't wear a bra.
[00:23:34]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, totally.
[00:23:36]  And I don't think any women listener should.
[00:23:38]  But she does just, I have to say, she sounds miserable.
[00:23:41]  This like brawless, skinny, so sleepy.
[00:23:45]  Just hasn't heard it.
[00:23:46]  Just like someone's like flashing a worst light in her face.
[00:23:50]  Awful.
[00:23:51]  My God, can you imagine?
[00:23:54]  Cats check my emails.
[00:23:55]  I couldn't check my emails.
[00:23:58]  Oh, George.
[00:24:00]  Yeah.
[00:24:00]  Plimpton.
[00:24:01]  So she's not doing very well.
[00:24:03]  There was some new information that actually came out about Ghulane that we should say, because I did find this interesting.
[00:24:08]  There was a deposition that was unsealed from Epstein's former house manager, John Elese.
[00:24:15]  Oh, we've heard from him before.
[00:24:17]  Yeah, another great name.
[00:24:19]  Apparently, Ghillane was an avid photographer, according to him, which I really enjoyed as a detail.
[00:24:27]  He said, quote, she had this high-tech camera.
[00:24:30]  She was constantly taking photographs, not only photographs, but I think it was, she had this special camera.
[00:24:38]  I don't know what it was.
[00:24:40]  What the fuck is a special camera?
[00:24:42]  I don't know, but there is, I can't remember what this was from exactly, but there's testimony from one of the girls that she was brought to Epstein's house and the person who brought them there was Ghillain.
[00:24:52]  And Epstein made a big show of giving Ghelane this like digital camera while she was there.
[00:24:57]  So that would make sense.
[00:24:58]  I mean, can you imagine too?
[00:24:59]  It's like the mid-2000s, like digital cameras, like a really big deal.
[00:25:03]  Yeah, well, I mean one of those little dads.
[00:25:05]  They had things.
[00:25:06]  Well, their whole thing was they had pictures of all these girls and some of them they like printed out or whatever, you know, had developed and put on the walls.
[00:25:13]  But there was also like folders and folders and folders and folders of this stuff on computers.
[00:25:17]  And of course those computers, as we mentioned last episode, disappeared before they were able to be seized and searched.
[00:25:26]  Yeah, I don't think we're going to ever see those again.
[00:25:41]  So now back to Mark Epstein.
[00:25:44]  We talked about Jeff's little brother who buried him recently.
[00:25:48]  Now, Mark Epstein is mostly in the news for his relationship.
[00:25:52]  Not recently, but most of his dalliances with the spotlight have been with his relationship to the school Cooper Union.
[00:26:00]  Now, Liz, you're a woman.
[00:26:02]  What is Cooper Union?
[00:26:06]  Well, it's an art school, but it's not just an art school.
[00:26:09]  It's also an engineering school, I think.
[00:26:11]  Engineering.
[00:26:12]  Engineering?
[00:26:14]  But it's really difficult to get into.
[00:26:16]  It's famously free.
[00:26:18]  Okay.
[00:26:19]  It was, at least until recently.
[00:26:21]  Okay, they're doing the little Bernie Sanders thing.
[00:26:23]  Yeah, yeah, it's totally free, but it's like very difficult to get into.
[00:26:28]  Well, that's actually what Mark's big relationship with it was because he was on the board of Cooper Union.
[00:26:33]  He led the charge to no longer make it free.
[00:26:35]  Really?
[00:26:37]  Oh, shit.
[00:26:37]  I didn't know any of this.
[00:26:38]  It didn't succeed, but yeah, that was like his big thing.
[00:26:42]  I think he quit in protest because they refused to make it not free anymore.
[00:26:47]  Dude, that's the lamest thing to protest.
[00:26:54]  I know.
[00:26:55]  Yeah, I gotta say, yeah, it's not not the most dignified thing to do.
[00:27:00]  But he's rich as shit, too.
[00:27:02]  He was a screen printing guy back in the 70s and 80s with a company called ISMO, I-Z-M-O, which is like the most screen print ass name for a company I've ever heard.
[00:27:14]  And then, of course, he got into real estate.
[00:27:16]  His company was called OSA, O-S-S-A.
[00:27:20]  Oftentimes, he worked alongside his brother.
[00:27:22]  In fact, I know we have mentioned this on episodes before.
[00:27:24]  He was the partial owner of that building on East 66th Street, the giant rape house where child sex slaves and foreign dignitaries were often seen together.
[00:27:36]  Osa is a big stakeholder in the building.
[00:27:38]  He also, well, yeah, anyways, Elon Musk's brother also dated a girl that was living in the building.
[00:27:43]  Very weird building, dark energy there.
[00:27:46]  Anyways, he's basically one of the guys that's in charge of Epstein's money now.
[00:27:51]  It's a little unclear on, of course, all of Epstein's finances, extremely opaque.
[00:27:56]  It's unclear on how much Mark is getting or like where exactly that money is all going to, but it looks like he was one of the main beneficiaries from Epstein's will.
[00:28:06]  Anyways, it's something we never really talked about was Mark's connection to something called the Humpty Dumpty Institute.
[00:28:14]  Now, Liz, sweetheart, so if I was to come to you and be like, Liz, we are going to take a tour of the offices of the Humpty Dumpty Institute.
[00:28:22]  What would you think that they do?
[00:28:27]  To be honest, like, no joke, the first thing I thought of was, you know, that Eggman on Twitter?
[00:28:36]  There's an Eggman I'm thinking of, but it's probably not the same one.
[00:28:38]  He's like...
[00:28:40]  It's like a dick guy thing.
[00:28:42]  Like an anonymous thing.
[00:28:43]  No, he's got like a big egghead, and he's like really into Israel.
[00:28:48]  Eli Lake?
[00:28:49]  Eli Lake?
[00:28:50]  Is who you're talking about?
[00:28:51]  Yeah, that's literally.
[00:28:53]  I thought this was like a developmentally challenged guy or something.
[00:28:56]  You know, like Eli Lake.
[00:28:58]  The rap and the rap and Zionist.
[00:29:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:29:02]  Oh, so it's like a foundation to like get him some pussy?
[00:29:06]  I don't know.
[00:29:06]  He just looks like Humpty Dumpty.
[00:29:08]  He does look like Humpty Dumpty.
[00:29:09]  And Israel does want to build a wall, so.
[00:29:12]  Yeah, yeah, that's true.
[00:29:14]  I've got to be honest with you, not really familiar with the whole story of Humpty Dumpty.
[00:29:18]  I know he falls, and I know everyone's like, oh, we've got to get this guy back.
[00:29:22]  It's not, right?
[00:29:22]  I mean, because it's like Rapunzel's longer than you'd think.
[00:29:25]  But like, Humpty Dumpty is just a one-act thing.
[00:29:28]  He just falls and that's it.
[00:29:30]  What's the lesson?
[00:29:32]  I don't know.
[00:29:33]  Don't put an egg on a wall shelf?
[00:29:36]  I don't know.
[00:29:36]  Fair enough.
[00:29:37]  Well, anyways, the Humpty Dumpty Institute is a sort of like one of these dime a dozen fucking fucking institutes started by rich people and staffed entirely by lunatics.
[00:29:49]  This one is mid-level rich people.
[00:29:51]  I looked at the board.
[00:29:52]  It's like the sons of generals from like North African countries, Chinese gaming company owners, and policy advisors like on Capitol Hill.
[00:30:00]  There's a bunch of congressional advisors on board too, mostly Democrats, although I think there's like four or five Republicans.
[00:30:07]  The big names are Adam, Little Adam Shit, Maxine Waters, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
[00:30:16]  Is she even still elected?
[00:30:18]  ever happened to her that is like the fucking that's a trifecta right there I'll tell you, if my country was wracked by civil war, I would want Debbie Wasserman Schultz by my side to help me rebuild.
[00:30:30]  Because that's what this is about.
[00:30:31]  This is the HDI, as they call it, which I guess is a more dignified name than the Humpty Dumpty Institute.
[00:30:37]  This is from their website.
[00:30:39]  HDI engages critical stakeholders through its programs with the U.S. Congress and the United Nations, including organizing visits of congressional delegations overseas and to the UN and through its engagement with business and cultural leaders around the world.
[00:30:53]  So who knows?
[00:30:54]  Literally, that means nothing.
[00:30:55]  Well, Mark Epstein is vice chairman.
[00:30:58]  I mean, so they say further on, they say that they support the removal of landmimes and unexploded bombs in Sri Lanka, distribution of footwear to vulnerable communities in Vietnam, and support for mobile medical vehicles in Lesotho.
[00:31:10]  I'm sure they're just smuggling diamonds.
[00:31:12]  Yeah, totally.
[00:31:13]  Anyways, Mark Epstein is a vice chairman of the Humpty Dumpty Institute, and he's gone with the group abroad a bunch of times, accompanied members of Congress and the UN on trips with the group.
[00:31:22]  Daily Caller of all places.
[00:31:24]  Well, actually, it's not really surprising because there's Democrats on the board.
[00:31:27]  They actually did like a decently thorough expose of this that, you know, they didn't really find much.
[00:31:32]  It's just one of those fucking gross places.
[00:31:34]  Although, I got some stuff I'll share with you in a second.
[00:31:37]  In 2015, the one thing I did learn from that Daily Call article, though, was in 2015, he did host a private dinner party for the Humpty Dumpty Institute with a keynote speech from Samantha Powers.
[00:31:48]  Ooh, friend of the pod, fave of the pod.
[00:31:52]  Did Biden hire her yet?
[00:31:54]  Or is she still waiting in the wings?
[00:31:57]  He hired her as secretary of Pimpin.
[00:32:01]  Because she's going to be too.
[00:32:03]  Yeah, and continuing human trafficking all through the world.
[00:32:07]  Destabilizing nations everywhere.
[00:32:09]  Well, anyways, Humpty Dumpty Institute was founded by a woman named Constant Milstein in 1990.
[00:32:15]  That's like the kind of name of a person your grandpa married in like New York in 1930.
[00:32:20]  Yeah, that's like the wife of like someone who made a lot of money on the Holocaust.
[00:32:27]  Well, her dad actually made a lot of money setting up flooring at the United Nations, essentially.
[00:32:33]  Like he's the guy that if you are a globalist in New York, you get this guy to do your floors.
[00:32:39]  I mean, he's doing JFK.
[00:32:41]  He's doing LaGuardia.
[00:32:43]  But he actually hit it big when he acquired a little company called United Brands, aka United Fruit Company.
[00:32:53]  Oh, my God.
[00:32:53]  So I was close.
[00:32:54]  I was real close.
[00:32:56]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:32:57]  He actually did help, you know, well, at least he has a connection to, well, you could call them Holocaust.
[00:33:02]  They certainly systematically killed a lot of people and it was slavery.
[00:33:06]  Well, anyways, for those who do not know, United Fruit Company, despite the name, well, actually, it was a fruit company, which makes this also absurd, but it was owned by a guy named Eli Black, formerly of Lehman Brothers.
[00:33:17]  And we will get to his son in a second because he's connected to all this too.
[00:33:21]  But United Fruit Company is basically the American version of the East Indies Company.
[00:33:26]  It was all up in South and Central America and in Asia.
[00:33:29]  And they had this sort of plantation system in basically any country that grew bananas or any kind of fruit where it was essentially the same thing that you would see in any of these other colonial countries, which is like overseers and slaves.
[00:33:44]  And this slavery existed, I mean, until the 70s and 80s, and I'm still sure exists in some places.
[00:33:51]  They're basically famous for conducting like low-scale and sometimes high-scale genocides in every country, essentially south of the U.S.
[00:34:02]  They overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala in 1954.
[00:34:07]  That's the thing I think most people know about them, is they literally overthrew the president of that country who was trying to do land reform, which if you are a president in South America and you try to do land reform, I will say Asia too, someone is going to kill you.
[00:34:21]  No disrespect.
[00:34:23]  That's just the way the game goes.
[00:34:24]  You will die.
[00:34:25]  United Fruit was known as El Polpo, which is the octopus.
[00:34:29]  Anyways, Eli Black buys United Fruit Company.
[00:34:33]  And Eli Black was a former investment banker with Lehman Brothers.
[00:34:38]  Every single person we ever talk about on this podcast has for some reason worked for Lehman Brothers in the past.
[00:34:44]  Oops, wonder why that is.
[00:34:46]  I don't know why, but if I don't mention it, just assume that the person has previously worked for Lehman Brothers.

=== Board Pushes Madman Out (02:32) ===

[00:34:51]  Anyways, he buys that shit, tries to transform it.
[00:34:54]  And it turns out he's one of those guys.
[00:34:56]  Know how, like, Liz, before we started doing the podcast, you and I were involved in buying businesses that were doing bad, firing everybody, renaming the business, or breaking up into different parts and then profiting off of that.
[00:35:07]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, when we worked on McKinsey, exactly.
[00:35:10]  So, that's what Eli Black did.
[00:35:11]  But Eli Black wasn't as good at it as he thought, or at least he couldn't do it in a way that would make him enough money.
[00:35:18]  And he also got caught doing a lot of bribery.
[00:35:21]  Oh, so yeah, it happens.
[00:35:25]  The board was trying to push him out.
[00:35:27]  And on February 3rd, 1975, he goes up to the 44th floor of his Midtown office building in Manhattan, breaks the fucking window with a briefcase, which I got to say, got to have a lot of books in there or something.
[00:35:38]  Throws the briefcase out the window, and I'll get to that in a second, and then follows the briefcase with his body.
[00:35:45]  Oof, yes.
[00:35:47]  Jumping out of a window of an office building is, I gotta say, I do not have respect for guys who work in most office buildings, but when they do that, I'm like, damn, that's crazy.
[00:35:55]  I would never do that.
[00:35:56]  Yeah, real madman.
[00:35:58]  That's a very mad men thing.
[00:36:00]  Did they do that at Mad Men?
[00:36:01]  That's the opening of the show.
[00:36:03]  Oh, I've never seen it.
[00:36:05]  You know, and it's the cartoon with the guy falling.
[00:36:07]  It's like, do, do, do, do.
[00:36:10]  No.
[00:36:12]  No.
[00:36:13]  They had that the redhead lady on that show.
[00:36:16]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:36:16]  With the big, yeah.
[00:36:18]  Yeah, the knockers.
[00:36:19]  Brains, the big brains.
[00:36:20]  Yes.
[00:36:21]  But I never saw it.
[00:36:22]  No.
[00:36:22]  So, anyways, this guy does the madman thing.
[00:36:24]  He jumps out the fucking window, gets a bunch of Emmys for it, and bam, splat on the ground.
[00:36:30]  Anyways, I'd mentioned that he threw out his briefcase and a bunch of papers.
[00:36:33]  They found a paper, I think, a few blocks away because, you know, it's 44 floor travels that said early to retirement 55 written on it.
[00:36:42]  And people didn't know if that was a suicide note or if that was maybe written by some of maybe the people who maybe mentally caused him to jump out.
[00:36:50]  I don't know.
[00:36:51]  Or was there like a literal push, perhaps?
[00:36:55]  It's a little joker's card maybe thrown in the mix.
[00:37:00]  It could very well be.
[00:37:02]  It's one of those things where you're like, I mean, even if no one pushed him, somebody spiritually pushed him.
[00:37:07]  Well, anyways, he had a son.
[00:37:09]  For some reason, his balls emitted sperm, and that sperm went into an egg.
[00:37:13]  And then other stuff happened that I'm not really familiar with.
[00:37:16]  And a baby was born.
[00:37:16]  And that baby was named Leon, named after one of the characters from the video game Resident Evil, Leon Black.

=== Leon Black's Museum Controversy (06:54) ===

[00:37:24]  And Leon, yes.
[00:37:26]  We've talked about him.
[00:37:28]  Yes.
[00:37:28]  Before we get into this, I just want a disclaimer in case Leon Black is listening because Leon Black is a serious dude.
[00:37:36]  And so, Leon, if you're listening, we respect you.
[00:37:40]  Dude, honestly, like, I know we come at things in different ways, but like, you're a pimp.
[00:37:46]  Yeah.
[00:37:46]  So everything we're about to say, man, don't take it personal.
[00:37:49]  It's just for the podcast.
[00:37:51]  Yeah.
[00:37:51]  The losers.
[00:37:52]  It's just full of jokers.
[00:37:53]  Yeah.
[00:37:53]  Don't come after us.
[00:37:55]  Don't say that.
[00:37:56]  They're like, oh, rich finance guys.
[00:37:58]  I'm like, honestly, like, finance is how things get made.
[00:38:02]  So, not really sure how you're okay.
[00:38:05]  Look, we're entrepreneurs.
[00:38:07]  I'm a small businessman and I'm Jewish.
[00:38:10]  Leon, we're good.
[00:38:12]  Anyways, so Leon Black is a piece of shit.
[00:38:15]  He is known.
[00:38:16]  I mean, he owns everything from Chuck E. Cheese to fucking Blackwater.
[00:38:21]  Like, this guy is business week.
[00:38:23]  Calls this motherfucker the most feared man in finance.
[00:38:26]  And that's business week.
[00:38:27]  They write about business every single week.
[00:38:30]  This is literally a, yeah.
[00:38:32]  I've always said Chuck E. Cheese was the blackwater of family.
[00:38:36]  Absolutely.
[00:38:37]  Well, yeah, they did the massive family home restaurants, but I don't know.
[00:38:41]  I messed up the joke.
[00:38:43]  He's the co-founder, chairman, and CEO.
[00:38:46]  I call that the three C's of Apollo Investments.
[00:38:50]  And Apollo Investments is the aforementioned vehicle which owns all that bullshit.
[00:38:55]  I mean, you guys see it.
[00:38:56]  They own fucking everything.
[00:38:57]  And he's the chairman of MoMO, which is like, I mean, I don't think that Leon Black is probably a particularly interested art, but that's like the crown you get when you're like a certain kind of rich guy.
[00:39:09]  That's also like, I mean, you want to talk serious fucking money, talk about art.
[00:39:14]  Like, yeah, absolutely.
[00:39:16]  I mean, yeah.
[00:39:17]  People.
[00:39:18]  I know.
[00:39:18]  It was like people were like, oh, get the sacras out of here.
[00:39:20]  I'm like, every, every single one of them.
[00:39:22]  I don't understand.
[00:39:22]  How much money does it cost to have a museum?
[00:39:24]  You just put the painting on the wall.
[00:39:25]  Oh my God.
[00:39:26]  No.
[00:39:26]  Look, I got it.
[00:39:27]  Dude, also, I have to say it too.
[00:39:29]  Like, I was, I tweeted some stuff out because like a bunch of museums were fucking during COVID.
[00:39:34]  Sorry, this is like a total side note, but I just want to say on this art thing, like a bunch of museums during COVID were like using, basically using the pandemic as cover to liquidate a bunch of art.
[00:39:47]  Like basically, it's not liquidate, I can't remember what the term is, but they put up like public museums putting up art for private auction, which is a way for them to get money.
[00:39:57]  And like that's like a big no-no.
[00:40:00]  And it's only like recently that they've kind of allowed that to occur with public museums because of their saying, oh, you've lost so much money because of COVID, people not going, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:40:10]  But all that is fucking fake.
[00:40:11]  And I just want to say, like, that art is publicly owned.
[00:40:15]  Like, it belongs in public museums.
[00:40:17]  It is like our, it's the public's culture.
[00:40:20]  It's the public's history.
[00:40:21]  There's a reason why the public owns it.
[00:40:22]  And people like Leon Black, these fucking private museums and these assholes, like asshole administrators in these fucking public museums are selling off all of this publicly owned history to fucking private asshole wealthy people.
[00:40:40]  Yeah, some really famous paintings were like up for sale.
[00:40:43]  I can't remember which they were, but it's so fucking wrong and it makes me so mad.
[00:40:47]  Yeah.
[00:40:48]  And like, yeah, it's insane.
[00:40:49]  The people don't understand.
[00:40:50]  I don't know.
[00:40:51]  I like tweeted something about it and people were like, what's the big deal?
[00:40:53]  Blah, Like, dude, like, this is our art.
[00:40:57]  This is theirs.
[00:40:58]  This is ours.
[00:40:59]  It belongs in a museum.
[00:41:01]  Yeah, I mean, when I went, I have a piece of Starry Night that I took when I was in France.
[00:41:08]  I just scraped it off with a penknife.
[00:41:10]  No, no, I agree.
[00:41:11]  I agree.
[00:41:12]  I mean, it's the my whole thing is museums.
[00:41:14]  I've known a fair few people who've worked at the MoMAN SF, otherwise known as the SF MoMA.
[00:41:20]  And I'll tell you what, it seems like a fucking cesspool.
[00:41:23]  I mean, it's just a way for rich people to, you know, to swing their dicks around and do whatever they want.
[00:41:27]  The art world is so fucking awful.
[00:41:29]  Okay, so anyway, yeah, so, well, Leon Black is all up in it.
[00:41:33]  He met Epstein in the 19, the roaring 90s, which for these guys, you know, is actually a pretty fair assessment of the decade.
[00:41:40]  He made Jeffrey one of the first trustees.
[00:41:42]  These guys, by the way, always making each other's trustees.
[00:41:44]  Everyone's a trustee.
[00:41:46]  Where the fuck is a trustee?
[00:41:48]  You're my trustee, Brie.
[00:41:49]  You're my trustee, too.
[00:41:50]  I think we're in a trustee trio here.
[00:41:52]  That's nice.
[00:41:54]  Anyways, well, a lot of these high-finance Freakazoids sort of faded into the background after Epstein got arrested for having sex with children in 2007.
[00:42:05]  Leon Black is actually like, you know what?
[00:42:07]  That actually proves he's a pretty sharp businessman.
[00:42:09]  He was only paying these girls $300 each.
[00:42:11]  And so he got further entangled with Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:42:15]  It's been long known that Black gave Epstein $10 million for Epstein's foundation.
[00:42:20]  Epstein had a lot of foundations.
[00:42:22]  As far as we can tell, they did not do anything with their money.
[00:42:26]  It looks like, I mean, that's actually part of the Virgin Islands case too, is that they think that the foundations basically facilitated him having sexual intercourse with children because that money was actually not used for charitable purposes.
[00:42:41]  It was used essentially to further his empire, which I can see some truth to that.
[00:42:46]  And Epstein also had a 6% stake in Black's company making emission control products that, in fact, Black's kids are also co-owners of the company.
[00:42:57]  Black played down everything.
[00:42:58]  You know, this stuff came out.
[00:43:00]  I mean, when Epstein was back in the news after he got arrested, all this stuff was out there.
[00:43:04]  You know, he sort of was like, oh, yeah, I don't even know.
[00:43:06]  I'm so rich.
[00:43:07]  I don't even know how that happened.
[00:43:08]  Anyways, it later comes out because of Liz's former employer at Deutsche Bank getting busted by regulators.
[00:43:14]  And he'd actually giving tens of millions, not 10 million, but possibly up to $75 million to Epstein for, quote, financial advisement over the past decade.
[00:43:23]  Incredible.
[00:43:24]  Yeah, he said he was getting tax advice from Epstein.
[00:43:27]  I mean, come on.
[00:43:29]  Yeah.
[00:43:30]  What does he know about taxes?
[00:43:32]  I mean, he doesn't seem to have paid a lot of them, but like, it's not like Epstein does his own taxes.
[00:43:36]  Yeah, no, it's ridiculous.
[00:43:37]  Yeah, and like Naked Capitalism has a really good article of like, what the fuck was he actually giving him money for?
[00:43:44]  They do mention that Leon Black came out of Drexel and Drexel, which is an investment bank that used pretty girls to entrap and extort their clients.
[00:43:52]  Famous Former investment bank, and so could be something like that.
[00:43:57]  I don't know, but uh, interesting now, Leon is looking like he might be getting subpoenaed by that Virgin Islands attorney general.
[00:44:06]  Old Denise is uh is serving up Leon Black a little notice.
[00:44:09]  Although, who knows?
[00:44:10]  How do you even get a subpoena to Leon Black?
[00:44:13]  Dude, he owns Blackwater.
[00:44:15]  Yeah, that would be really nice to subpoena Leon Black.

=== Queen Andrew Scandal (15:22) ===

[00:44:19]  Like, I don't know if people really understood this.
[00:44:21]  Is like one of the most powerful men in the fucking world.
[00:44:24]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:44:24]  Like, I don't think he's gonna be handing over any documents anytime soon.
[00:44:28]  I should mention another person with the last name Black.
[00:44:31]  I believe it's Roy Black, Epstein's attorney we talked about in the last episode.
[00:44:35]  It came to my attention over this past week that Roy Black's son, who looks like Baron Trump, is a member of the allegedly a member of the Nazi group, Adam Waffen.
[00:44:47]  And his role in the group is running an Adam Woffen server on the children's video game Roblox, which appears to be a video game that is for children about Legos.
[00:45:00]  Dude, what?
[00:45:01]  I don't know.
[00:45:02]  These people are sick, sweet.
[00:45:04]  My God.
[00:45:04]  How do people get into this stuff?
[00:45:06]  Roblox?
[00:45:07]  I don't know.
[00:45:08]  It's like Minecraft.
[00:45:09]  Like, how do you start Minecraft?
[00:45:10]  I blame YouTube.
[00:45:11]  I think it's all the YouTube.
[00:45:13]  I blame you too, too.
[00:45:15]  So we can turn this around.
[00:45:16]  I think it's both of your guys's fault.
[00:45:18]  No, it's absolutely because of YouTube.
[00:45:20]  Yeah, because YouTube, I mean, yeah, I should tell you, YouTube is a pernicious influence.
[00:45:37]  Well, who do we got next, baby doll?
[00:45:39]  So I do think that we got to talk about our old buddy, Brandy Andy.
[00:45:44]  Hello, hello, Bird and Chips.
[00:45:49]  How about a kiss?
[00:45:50]  We haven't talked about him in a while because he's been in hiding.
[00:45:54]  Yeah.
[00:45:55]  Hasn't been showing his big fat face anymore.
[00:45:58]  Is he at Balmoral or did I just make that up?
[00:46:00]  No, actually, he was recently photographed at Windsor horse riding, which, I mean, okay.
[00:46:08]  That's a very pretty.
[00:46:09]  Yeah, he was at Windsor Castle.
[00:46:10]  I guess he's like in isolation there.
[00:46:12]  You know, there's like the word that the royal family is like, they're like had a little press release and they're like, we will indeed have a Christmas with our isolation bubble.
[00:46:20]  It's like, you're the fucking royal family.
[00:46:22]  Who are you saying?
[00:46:23]  You're already in isolation.
[00:46:24]  Well, I mean, I guess there's some of the few people with rooms big enough that you could just like sit in the same room and be like 30 feet away from each other.
[00:46:32]  Yeah, they have the crazy long table.
[00:46:34]  They're always socially disconcerting.
[00:46:35]  It would be so funny if the queen died of COVID.
[00:46:39]  That bitch is living forever.
[00:46:42]  Oh, my throat hurts.
[00:46:44]  Don't put the ventilator down me.
[00:46:46]  Oh my gosh.
[00:46:47]  She would refuse a ventilator.
[00:46:50]  Good.
[00:46:51]  Anyway.
[00:46:52]  Okay.
[00:46:52]  Speaking of Queen, so I guess that this is just a little funny thing about Andrew.
[00:46:57]  So, you know, that show The Crown on Netflix?
[00:47:00]  For some reason, like, it's everywhere right now.
[00:47:03]  I don't know, but I have not seen it, but it's about her, right?
[00:47:06]  I've never seen it.
[00:47:06]  Yeah, I've never seen it because I don't watch monarchist propaganda.
[00:47:12]  But I guess it's like every season it's about Queen Elizabeth.
[00:47:16]  And this season is set in like the late 70s, early 80s.
[00:47:19]  And so it's like about during her time in swing in London.
[00:47:24]  No, no, no.
[00:47:24]  I think it's about the rise of our friend of the pod, Maggie Thatcher, the old girl boss herself.
[00:47:34]  But so apparently they have already, they quote, set up how to deal with the Andrew affair in like this is a fictional show.
[00:47:41]  It's like oh, so this is like SVU style.
[00:47:43]  Yeah, everything.
[00:47:44]  That's what's so weird.
[00:47:45]  It's like, dude, you don't even have to mention anything.
[00:47:47]  But like everything has to be ripped from the headlines now.
[00:47:51]  I think this is a bad trend.
[00:47:53]  Liz, dude, I wonder if we could get an SUU episode about us.
[00:47:57]  About us?
[00:47:57]  They did an Epstein one.
[00:48:00]  No, well, forget that.
[00:48:01]  Like about us.
[00:48:03]  Wait, but what would so it's so what happens in the episode?
[00:48:09]  Okay, so I don't know because I've watched it because, again, I'm not going to watch this shit.
[00:48:14]  But this was in Town and Country magazine.
[00:48:16]  So you've been, I got you that subscription last Christmas.
[00:48:18]  You've been reading it.
[00:48:20]  So it's seen briefly during episode four, dubbed Favorites, spelled with an OU.
[00:48:29]  The Crown writers explore the Queen's relationship with the four children.
[00:48:34]  And just as royal historian Piers Brendan famously declared, okay, famously, declared the Channel 5 documentary Paxman on the Queen's Children.
[00:48:46]  Come on, man.
[00:48:48]  This is your country?
[00:48:50]  They conclude that Andrew is the queen's favorite.
[00:48:53]  Why?
[00:48:54]  Well, because she sees Andrew as her chance to make up for her failings with Charles, apparently.
[00:48:59]  Yeah, okay.
[00:49:00]  Well, I don't think that worked out well.
[00:49:02]  Because he's a man of action, arriving at their private luncheon in full uniform and via a massive helicopter because she takes him at his word when he declares his wish to fight in the Falklands.
[00:49:15]  Dude, come on, man.
[00:49:17]  Believing him to be her boldest, bravest child.
[00:49:21]  And because they're both fond of poached salmon and nerdy jokes about their family's history.
[00:49:26]  Like, what are you fucking joking about?
[00:49:28]  Like, I want to hear some jokes about the fucking royalty.
[00:49:31]  I'll be honest with you.
[00:49:32]  Probably Beta Velia.
[00:49:33]  Yeah.
[00:49:34]  And like, you know, killing a bunch of African people.
[00:49:37]  Mommy is a nonce.
[00:49:40]  Well, and yet the queen comes away from her lunch with Andrew feeling oddly disquieted.
[00:49:45]  And that's largely due to the crown's portrayal of the teenage prince.
[00:49:51]  So, this is like super fucking weird.
[00:49:54]  And I have to just read the whole thing because it's so weird.
[00:49:57]  I don't know why the writers included this.
[00:49:59]  This is so weird to me.
[00:50:00]  It's so sad.
[00:50:01]  Dude, it's probably so fun to write for these shows.
[00:50:03]  Really?
[00:50:04]  I think it sounds so, I mean.
[00:50:05]  Imagine writing this dog shit.
[00:50:07]  Unless you're listening to this, in which case, can you make a crown episode?
[00:50:10]  Also, email us because we'd love to talk to you.
[00:50:13]  I would love to be on the crown.
[00:50:18]  Speaking excitedly about his new girlfriend, Andrew reveals to his mother that she's an American actor who specializes in making quote blue movies.
[00:50:29]  That means pornos, for those of you who aren't familiar with this kind of talk.
[00:50:32]  Her latest movie project, he explains, is quote, set in the 1920s and follows an impressionable, nubile 17-year-old girl named Emily.
[00:50:43]  17?
[00:50:44]  Interrupts the queen, looking aghast.
[00:50:47]  I'm not sure I want to know more.
[00:50:50]  Waving aside her concern.
[00:50:51]  First of all, so by the way, sorry, let's stop for a second.
[00:50:54]  You're just talking about family history.
[00:50:56]  They're a fucking royal family.
[00:50:57]  Everyone used to get married at like 10.
[00:51:00]  Yeah.
[00:51:01]  Exactly.
[00:51:02]  Wasn't she literally like a child queen?
[00:51:05]  I mean, the whole thing is like you don't even get a chance to get married or like to a choice, really.
[00:51:09]  Like you get married off when you're 12, essentially.
[00:51:12]  I mean, dude, talk about fucking.
[00:51:14]  They had a Habsburg who got married, even though he was, well, I can't say it.
[00:51:18]  We'd have to bleep it, but you know, he was a guy who got a lot of the Habsburg genes in fucking Spain.
[00:51:23]  His balls, the coroner said, his balls was just a black stone.
[00:51:27]  And like, they made this guy fuck a lady.
[00:51:29]  I mean, he was a, he was a, you know, a, uh, I, again, I don't know how to say it.
[00:51:35]  I don't, I mean, maybe they'll stop listening to.
[00:51:37]  He was a really bad king.
[00:51:41]  And he still fucked.
[00:51:43]  And he was like fucking 13, I think.
[00:51:45]  I can't really remember that good.
[00:51:46]  I really just read the Wikipedia about it, but it's a crazy fucking Wikipedia article.
[00:51:50]  Also, I'm sorry, this is like the 70s, right?
[00:51:53]  Early 80s.
[00:51:54]  When was the Black Man's War?
[00:51:55]  I don't know.
[00:51:57]  Literally, no one knows because no one remembers that it even fucking happened, but okay.
[00:52:03]  Did you think they really 17?
[00:52:04]  17's like whatever.
[00:52:06]  Yeah, they didn't care back then.
[00:52:08]  17.
[00:52:08]  17 is not 13.
[00:52:10]  Also, she's just an adult actress, but it's just about a 17-year-old girl.
[00:52:15]  So I'm like, I don't really know what the problem is.
[00:52:17]  Okay, anyway.
[00:52:20]  Waving aside her concerns, Andrew continues.
[00:52:24]  Don't be such a prude mummy.
[00:52:27]  Yeah, there's a tell.
[00:52:31]  We call it a tell in the business.
[00:52:33]  Anyway, there she meets several twisted and perverted older predators who seduce the vulnerable and helpless young Emily.
[00:52:44]  Are you sure it's even legal?
[00:52:46]  Asks his mother, face creased with concern.
[00:52:50]  Who cares? laughs Andrew.
[00:52:54]  This is so fucking stupid.
[00:52:55]  I can't believe people watch this.
[00:52:56]  And everyone's like, oh, the show was so good.
[00:52:58]  Come on.
[00:52:59]  I'm not watching this.
[00:53:01]  You know, it's funny.
[00:53:02]  Now it's cleared up, but the entire time you were doing that, your picture became really fuzzy.
[00:53:07]  And you kept like, you were pixelating out further and further.
[00:53:11]  And that's because your spirit was diffusing and becoming one with the queens.
[00:53:15]  I really like that.
[00:53:16]  I love your queen impression, Liz.
[00:53:19]  So anyways, that's in the show further.
[00:53:22]  I'm not going to watch it.
[00:53:23]  I really think it's like just the one episode.
[00:53:25]  Like they wrote him in for this episode to write in the like little nod to the fact that he is like, you know, in this little, this Epicene scandal.
[00:53:33]  It's like so fucking weird, man.
[00:53:35]  Just like do your dumbass fucking girl boss feminist rah-rah hagiography of Maggie Thatcher and call it a day.
[00:53:43]  Get this fucking propaganda off my screen.
[00:53:46]  Death to the monarchy.
[00:53:48]  I will say this is that I wonder when the last time Charles and the queen fucked.
[00:53:56]  Wait, that's her son.
[00:53:59]  Wait, who's her husband?
[00:54:01]  No, Charles is her husband, dude.
[00:54:04]  No, dude, that's her son.
[00:54:06]  Fuck off.
[00:54:07]  Fuck off.
[00:54:08]  I'm googling this.
[00:54:08]  I have to say that.
[00:54:09]  Dude, no, Charles is married to Diana.
[00:54:11]  He's married.
[00:54:12]  Philip.
[00:54:12]  Oh, yeah, it's Philip.
[00:54:13]  Wow, I just, my voice came really loud in that.
[00:54:15]  It's Philip.
[00:54:15]  My bad.
[00:54:16]  Philip looks great.
[00:54:19]  Oh, he looks fantastic.
[00:54:21]  The Lich King.
[00:54:22]  It's from this really great DD module.
[00:54:25]  He came to life.
[00:54:27]  Yeah, it's all these people.
[00:54:30]  He looks like COVID ate his face, but left his body.
[00:54:33]  He does look like a syphilitic.
[00:54:35]  Yeah, that's absolutely.
[00:54:37]  got that beautiful british sheep well who else do we got we We got another piece of royalty here, and I believe you would call him Hollywood Royalty.
[00:55:00]  One of a frequent contributor to the show and a frequent guest on the podcast, Kevin Spacey.
[00:55:06]  What is up with KS?
[00:55:07]  Oh my God.
[00:55:08]  So I kind of made a, when we were compiling like the characters to like look into and report on and you know that we haven't heard from in a bit, I kind of like made a joke and I was like, oh, look into Kevin Spacey and, you know, maybe there'll be like a funny little thing.
[00:55:22]  So it's, there's actually more.
[00:55:24]  So do you remember like a couple months ago, he was hit with a lawsuit in September.
[00:55:29]  It was like September, I think, by Anthony Rapp, who of course is was the kind of big main accuser of Spacey's.
[00:55:39]  But I think it was like in 2017 when he went to Blunt's feed and there was the pizza that came out.
[00:55:44]  That's the thing that, like, you know, it was like literally like 24 hours later, House of Cards was like, you're done.
[00:55:50]  Yeah.
[00:55:50]  You know, you fired.
[00:55:52]  Yeah.
[00:55:52]  You're fired.
[00:55:52]  Can we do this?
[00:55:53]  No longer president.
[00:55:54]  You're fired.
[00:55:56]  You're a pedophile.
[00:55:58]  Bye-bye.
[00:56:01]  Anyway, okay.
[00:56:02]  So Anthony Rapp and another anonymous man accused Spacey of assaulting them back in the 80s when they were 14.
[00:56:12]  So this includes.
[00:56:13]  Yeah, this includes new allegations that Spacey sexually assaulted a teenage boy whom he met at an acting class in Westchester in the early 1980s.
[00:56:23]  And according to the lawsuit, Mr. Spacey invited his acting student to his apartment and, quote, engaged in sexual acts with him on multiple different occasions.
[00:56:34]  I guess in the final encounter, allegedly, Spacey assaulted the teenager despite his resisting and saying no.
[00:56:42]  So yeah, so this is back in September.
[00:56:45]  And apparently, Spacey has fled to London.
[00:56:50]  He bounced.
[00:56:51]  Yeah, he fled the coupe.
[00:56:53]  And I guess this is like a little legal trick because this would allow him to delay his trial by like several months.
[00:57:02]  Because get this.
[00:57:03]  They haven't actually served him.
[00:57:07]  Oh, this is great.
[00:57:08]  So he's actually, I don't know, isn't there like a term for when you're on the run from a process server?
[00:57:13]  I think it's just called being on the run.
[00:57:15]  For me, it was called the first part of my eight-month divorce.
[00:57:18]  Oh, my God.
[00:57:19]  No, I feel like there's like a character that's like someone that's running from the process server, but maybe not.
[00:57:23]  Anyway, well, here's the thing: it's a great time to be on the run because it's COVID.
[00:57:28]  Although, actually, it's bad because you'll always be home, but it's also like maybe the other guy can't get into the country.
[00:57:33]  I would just try to get into the country with the craziest restrictions on who can come in because Kevin Spacey, I'm sure, could get into wherever and then just like hole up somewhere.
[00:57:42]  Yeah, he's in Vietnam.
[00:57:44]  Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:57:45]  Well, it's, I mean, Gary Glitter, I should add.
[00:57:49]  Anyway, so I guess that, like, so they tried to serve him four times.
[00:57:55]  I guess he has like a huge mansion in Baltimore, which it's kind of weird that he lives in Baltimore, but whatever.
[00:58:03]  He, they tried to serve him four times.
[00:58:06]  He was never there.
[00:58:08]  So I guess that the way that the law works is that because they're trying to serve him internationally, there's actually like a four-month window that they have to abide by in order for like this to be this to happen internationally.
[00:58:24]  Yeah, and this is like per The Hague, which I thought was like a fun little detail.
[00:58:28]  Whoa.
[00:58:29]  So that's why he went to London.
[00:58:32]  Isn't that interesting?
[00:58:32]  So like he was, yeah, he's got some good lawyers who I will get into.
[00:58:38]  So they also, like, there's all these like funny little legal tricks they're doing.
[00:58:42]  Also, drafted a motion demanding the trial be moved from the New York Supreme Court in Manhattan to the federal court for the Southern District of New York because Spacey is not a New York resident.
[00:58:54]  So that worked.
[00:58:56]  And now he's demanding a jury trial.
[00:59:00]  Oh my God.
[00:59:00]  These are the moves of a confident man.
[00:59:03]  Well, maybe not the running thing, but I mean, this of a competent man, I should say.
[00:59:07]  I mean, yeah, he came out.
[00:59:09]  Apparently, he, so he still hasn't been served.
[00:59:12]  Okay.
[00:59:14]  But he issued like a full, like his lawyers issued like a full denial of all the charges and they like responded to all of them and they deny like every single thing.
[00:59:25]  And they want a jury trial.
[00:59:26]  And can you imagine?
[00:59:28]  Like, so I know this isn't true, but when I read this in my head, it was like, oh, Kevin Spacey is representing himself in a jury trial and it will be on television.
[00:59:37]  That would be incredible.
[00:59:38]  Yeah.
[00:59:39]  Yeah.
[00:59:39]  I mean, we should be so lucky.

=== Kevin Spacey's Legal Drama (05:14) ===

[00:59:41]  We should.
[00:59:41]  Can't you see him up there?
[00:59:43]  I will.
[00:59:44]  I'm also like, now I'm scheming.
[00:59:46]  Like, I bet I could find Spacey in London.
[00:59:49]  Well, apparently he's at his house.
[00:59:51]  Oh, easy.
[00:59:52]  If you're his lawyers, literally, I send me.
[00:59:54]  I could easily get to his house.
[00:59:56]  Yeah, but it doesn't matter because even if you serve him, you still have like a form.
[00:59:59]  I don't know.
[00:59:59]  It's like a legal thing.
[01:00:00]  I could just get in his house illegally.
[01:00:02]  Or I could just pretend to be in a motor accident and have somebody be like, sir, we need your help.
[01:00:09]  We need your help.
[01:00:10]  Bang on the door.
[01:00:10]  And when he gets to the door, Bamo, fucking stick the fucking piece in his face and be like, you are served.
[01:00:16]  Also, can I have your autograph on the gun?
[01:00:20]  That's actually a pretty good move.
[01:00:21]  You would be a good process server.
[01:00:23]  Yeah, I just bought a bunch of ski masks today.
[01:00:26]  Oh my God.
[01:00:27]  You can wear those when you process server.
[01:00:29]  Anyways, so he is.
[01:00:32]  So anyways, he's in their sites.
[01:00:33]  He's in the prosecutor's sites.
[01:00:35]  Yeah.
[01:00:35]  But like I said, that he, you know, he did, he issued like a full denial.
[01:00:42]  And it's weird because basically in his, like, basically in his denial, it totally conflicts with the first statement that he made when Anthony Rapp's first allegations came out, where he basically was, you know, that's when he did the famous, oh my gosh.
[01:01:03]  Like, I don't remember meeting him, but if I did, I'm so sorry.
[01:01:07]  I need to take this time.
[01:01:08]  Also, I'm gay.
[01:01:09]  This is difficult.
[01:01:10]  Remember, he like pivoted to coming out.
[01:01:12]  Oh, it was an amazing move.
[01:01:13]  Really good play.
[01:01:14]  Yeah, it's crazy that I molested someone, but I'm also gay.
[01:01:17]  Yeah, that was, you know, very weird.
[01:01:20]  But, you know, gotta hand it to him.
[01:01:22]  He's a Hollywood guy.
[01:01:24]  Yeah, very Hollywood.
[01:01:26]  But yeah, basically, he's like, you know, he's saying that, you know, there's no, they're the like statute of limitations.
[01:01:33]  He's saying that he doesn't live in New York, so you can't even, like, why are you even suing me here?
[01:01:38]  It doesn't make sense.
[01:01:39]  Saying you can't have this guy hide by a pseudonym or like, you know, be anonymous.
[01:01:44]  That's not fair.
[01:01:45]  So he's like really going after it.
[01:01:47]  I guess this is just like a fun little detail that I found, which is that one of Spacey's lawyers actually represented someone in ISIS.
[01:01:57]  Okay.
[01:01:58]  Do I know him?
[01:01:59]  Oh, no, I don't know this guy.
[01:02:01]  Which I just was like, oh, wow, that's like a big deal.
[01:02:03]  Like, oh, he's a Canadian ISIS.
[01:02:06]  Do you remember this guy?
[01:02:07]  I do not, but oh, that's crazy.
[01:02:10]  He got arrested for participating in an Iraqi-based suicide bomb.
[01:02:13]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:02:14]  He like aided a bunch of terrorists and he went away for 26 years.
[01:02:17]  Yeah, you can't do that.
[01:02:18]  Well, actually, you can do that, but you got to get the U.S.'s explicit permission first.
[01:02:23]  Yeah, but I know.
[01:02:24]  Imagine being like, yes, I represented ISIS and Kevin Spacey.
[01:02:30]  Yeah.
[01:02:30]  Well, it's a, what is it called?
[01:02:32]  It's a diverse rainbow of clients.
[01:02:35]  That sounded homophobic.
[01:02:37]  I didn't mean it like that.
[01:02:38]  Should we get that?
[01:02:56]  So speaking of foreign or pedophiles hanging out in foreign countries avoiding prosecution, Jean-Luc Brunel, there is nothing basically in the English language press about him.
[01:03:11]  But for those who are maybe more recent listeners, Jean-Luc Brunel was the quote-unquote model scout who, in addition to his own long, illustrious career of drugging, raping women since the 1970s all over the world, but famously, there was a 60 minutes episode literally about him raping, and he continued to work in the industry for like decades after that.
[01:03:34]  He also had a modeling company with Epstein MC2.
[01:03:39]  I always say it wrong because I don't know how actually MC equals square or whatever works in the first place.
[01:03:44]  I'm not a numbers guy.
[01:03:45]  I always have to say that not a numbers guy.
[01:03:47]  Anyways, he is hiding out somewhere in Paris and there is a case ongoing.
[01:03:51]  Not sure about the movement on it.
[01:03:53]  I actually, Trunon has a Jean-Luc Brunel correspondent who we may be talking to in the future about this.
[01:04:00]  But apparently things are moving along there.
[01:04:02]  And I guess a lot of the cases involve models.
[01:04:04]  It is, I mean, I know this is a stereotype.
[01:04:06]  It actually is kind of difficult to get cases like this to move along in France.
[01:04:11]  And so we'll hope that, well, I mean, fingers crossed to see how this goes.
[01:04:15]  But yeah, Brunel is in-country, as they say.
[01:04:20]  We've also got the Maxwell sisters, and there is zero news on them.
[01:04:25]  No one's following up with those babies.
[01:04:28]  I don't know why I call them babies.
[01:04:29]  These babies.
[01:04:30]  Well, Christine and Isabel, I mean, the whole Maxwell family, there are certain members that are basically gone unnamed, except just generally referred to as, you know, family members of Ghelane who are helping her in her court case.
[01:04:43]  But it's we're, you know, there's like eight Maxwell siblings, and so we're not exactly sure who it is.
[01:04:48]  I would not be surprised if it was Christine and Isabel, her sort of most illustrious, famous sisters.
[01:04:54]  But I would also not be surprised.

=== Maxwell Sisters Mystery (15:25) ===

[01:04:56]  I mean, they will, I have repeatedly sent them friend requests on every form of social media that they have.
[01:05:02]  I have made fake profiles to try to get them to accept me as friends, where I look like a tech entrepreneur.
[01:05:08]  And so far, Zilch.
[01:05:10]  But, you know, I'll never cease in my pursuit.
[01:05:14]  And finally, rounding up this trio, we have Alan Dershowitz.
[01:05:18]  And Dershowitz is doing great.
[01:05:21]  He's living the life.
[01:05:23]  My God.
[01:05:25]  He's a colleague of ours.
[01:05:26]  I got to say, the Trump years have been the best years of his life.
[01:05:30]  Dershowitz seems like he's on top of the world.
[01:05:32]  Like, I've never heard somebody so positive and happy every time he's.
[01:05:37]  Also, he's like kind of rebranded.
[01:05:40]  Well, he's become like a little bit of like a dissident intellectual.
[01:05:44]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:05:44]  He's kind of like dabbling in like a, you know, like a pinker, like a dangerous kind of like, ooh, like intellectual dark web.
[01:05:53]  Ooh.
[01:05:54]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:05:55]  Maybe I'm just going to ask, I'm just asking some questions on Alan Derschowitz.
[01:06:00]  Intellectual using the dark web for what everyone else uses it for.
[01:06:03]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:06:06]  Well, he also, I mean, the most, and I'm sorry, we have to, young Chompsy, we're going to have to play a clip right now.
[01:06:13]  You want controversy?
[01:06:14]  I'm going to give it to you.
[01:06:16]  Should Donald Trump be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?
[01:06:24]  Should he get the Nobel Peace Prize?
[01:06:27]  You're going to hear my arguments on this show today.
[01:06:31]  That's right.
[01:06:31]  Alan Dershowitz has a podcast called The Dersh Show.
[01:06:36]  And let me tell you, I have listened to four episodes of it, and it is fantastic.
[01:06:41]  This guy is so much better at podcasting than me.
[01:06:43]  I am better than him.
[01:06:45]  The music rocks.
[01:06:46]  It is, it's incredible because he's bad.
[01:06:50]  Presumably, there's maybe one, or definitely one, but probably more than one person working for Alan Dershowitz on his podcast.
[01:06:56]  And someone's like, listen, we need morning drive time, like rock music behind when Alan Dershowitz speaks on his podcast.
[01:07:03]  It's fantastic.
[01:07:04]  If you work for the Dersh show, get in contact with this.
[01:07:08]  Liz, yesterday I fell asleep.
[01:07:11]  You know, I always sleep badly.
[01:07:12]  And so sometimes at like three o'clock, I get an attack of very heavy eyelids.
[01:07:17]  And I was listening to Alan Dershowitz's episode with Dave Rubin.
[01:07:22]  Oh my God, you poor sister.
[01:07:23]  And I never heard Dave Rubin talk before.
[01:07:25]  It was not a pleasant experience.
[01:07:27]  But I fell asleep.
[01:07:28]  Was like, it was, I mean, it was, it was like listening to Noy or something.
[01:07:32]  It was like Kraut Rock and made me immediately just like tired and sort of like in a groove.
[01:07:37]  He's got really great episode descriptions, including, should Iran Iranian nuclear scientists be fair game for targeted assassination?
[01:07:46]  Some say no, but I say yes.
[01:07:48]  Find out when you listen to the Dir Show.
[01:07:50]  What do you think?
[01:07:50]  Call 24-7 at 216-710-0050.
[01:07:56]  That's not doxing.
[01:07:57]  He puts it up himself.
[01:07:59]  What do you mean he says find out?
[01:08:01]  He just said, I say yes.
[01:08:02]  Now we know.
[01:08:03]  As far as I know, though, he doesn't really take callers on his show because I've, like, I, I mean, granted, I've listened to his podcast.
[01:08:10]  I don't know if I've made it the entire 45 minutes every time, but on the ones I have, I don't remember any callers.
[01:08:16]  I have left something like 10 messages.
[01:08:21]  And he refused to.
[01:08:22]  I've, yeah, it's, I, he's a, he's a hard guy to get a hold of.
[01:08:28]  But yeah, he's doing fantastic.
[01:08:30]  Trump has been shouting him out a lot lately, too.
[01:08:32]  Wow.
[01:08:32]  I mean, he looks like shit.
[01:08:34]  Awful.
[01:08:35]  So he's got a face for podcasting.
[01:08:37]  We'll just say absolutely.
[01:08:39]  Yeah, which is, we don't, though.
[01:08:42]  No, no.
[01:08:43]  No.
[01:08:43]  I have a face for Instagram live meltdowns.
[01:08:48]  I'm going to talk about betrayal in the makeup community.
[01:08:52]  But yeah, so he is, he is doing fantastic.
[01:08:55]  I would encourage our listeners to, you know, check out his podcast.
[01:08:59]  Little plug here.
[01:09:00]  Maybe give him a call.
[01:09:02]  Maybe call, but don't be mean to him and just act like you're a regular person calling and say something psychotic that he has to respond to.
[01:09:11]  Anyways, I hope to one day be a guest on the Dear Show myself under my pseudonym, Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:09:34]  Well, you know we couldn't do this episode without checking in with our fave.
[01:09:40]  Our problematic fave, our girl.
[01:09:44]  That's right.
[01:09:45]  Ms. Hillary Clinton.
[01:09:47]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Lizzie.
[01:09:50]  It is.
[01:09:50]  I didn't mean to call you Lizzie.
[01:09:51]  So that's fucked up.
[01:09:52]  I never knew that.
[01:09:53]  I'm sorry.
[01:09:54]  Okay.
[01:09:54]  All right.
[01:09:55]  You're good with that?
[01:09:55]  Well, I'll do it.
[01:09:56]  Wait, I've told you how I used to give people Lizzie privileges.
[01:10:00]  Do I have Lizzie Privs?
[01:10:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:02]  You got Lizzie Pribs.
[01:10:03]  Do you call them Lizzie Privy's?
[01:10:04]  No, I don't.
[01:10:05]  I say Lizzie Privileges.
[01:10:07]  I like that.
[01:10:07]  Well, I got him now.
[01:10:09]  So Lizzie.
[01:10:11]  That's weird.
[01:10:12]  Yeah, Hillary Clinton is just like Dershowitz.
[01:10:16]  She is glowing.
[01:10:17]  She is looking so good.
[01:10:21]  She's everywhere.
[01:10:23]  Everywhere.
[01:10:23]  I mean, I guess Trump allegedly, apparently, for the time being, has lost the election.
[01:10:29]  We'll see what happens.
[01:10:32]  But now, because of that, she's like just fucking making the rounds because apparently this is all about her.
[01:10:37]  I don't know.
[01:10:38]  Yeah.
[01:10:38]  I don't know.
[01:10:39]  She went on Dax Shepard's podcast.
[01:10:43]  Oh, my, that guy?
[01:10:45]  Who?
[01:10:46]  Who's Dax Shepard?
[01:10:48]  I don't know who this is.
[01:10:49]  So, apparently.
[01:10:50]  Is this a picture of him you put in the picture?
[01:10:51]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:10:52]  I put a picture because he looks like such a fucking jackass.
[01:10:54]  Oh, my God.
[01:10:55]  Look at that asshole.
[01:10:57]  Oh.
[01:10:58]  Horrible.
[01:10:58]  Is it facial hair or is that just his face?
[01:11:01]  Unclear.
[01:11:03]  Also, apparently he likes a newsboy cap, which I don't know.
[01:11:07]  Yeah.
[01:11:07]  What is he in the international Marxist tendency?
[01:11:11]  He's stuck in 2006 when he made movies.
[01:11:14]  These are the.
[01:11:15]  This is for Wikipedia, by the way.
[01:11:17]  Shepard is best known for his work in the future films, Without a Paddle, Zathura, a Space Adventure, and Employee of the Month.
[01:11:25]  I've always adventure sounds fake.
[01:11:28]  I've literally never heard of any of those.
[01:11:30]  Do they have like the blue links that you can click on them?
[01:11:33]  I don't know.
[01:11:34]  Zathura?
[01:11:36]  I guess that he is like one of the most popular podcasts.
[01:11:40]  What?
[01:11:40]  Yes.
[01:11:42]  Wait, will you look at that?
[01:11:43]  What's it called?
[01:11:46]  It's called Armchair Expert.
[01:11:48]  Dude, come on.
[01:11:49]  That's so late.
[01:11:51]  Dak Shepard, American actor.
[01:11:54]  Dak Shepard podcast.
[01:11:56]  Monica.
[01:11:57]  Wait, was Monica Lewinsky on it?
[01:11:59]  Was she?
[01:12:00]  No, Monica Padman?
[01:12:02]  I don't know the fuck that is.
[01:12:03]  Oh, my God.
[01:12:04]  He's.
[01:12:04]  Oh, my God, Briece.
[01:12:05]  Do you see the photo of the podcast?
[01:12:09]  He's like, wow, Dak Shepard.
[01:12:13]  Oh, dude, this is the most blue-pilled shit I've ever seen.
[01:12:17]  Oh, people also search for what the fuck with Mark Maron.
[01:12:21]  Okay.
[01:12:22]  And Save America.
[01:12:24]  My only experience with What the Fuck with Mark Maron was when I was one of the worst weekends of my life.
[01:12:30]  I've mentioned on the show before because it was really memorable when I was in LA trying to hide that I was withdrawing from heroin from my grief-filled girlfriend.
[01:12:41]  And on the drive back to San Francisco, I was curled up in a ball and we listened to Mark Marin interview the most wretched scum of the year for like four hours.
[01:12:52]  And then I was the episode with Obama.
[01:12:55]  Immediately, I literally, the first thing I did was relapse.
[01:12:58]  Oh my God.
[01:12:59]  No, he's not.
[01:12:59]  This is what the fuckers.
[01:13:00]  What the fuck?
[01:13:02]  Yeah.
[01:13:02]  Awful.
[01:13:04]  What the fuck a tears?
[01:13:06]  What the fuck?
[01:13:06]  That's how I remember what the fuck a tear is like.
[01:13:08]  I'm like, man, you're like 45, brother.
[01:13:11]  You're 45 years old.
[01:13:13]  Yeah.
[01:13:14]  Like, go out, get, you know, Louis C. Cade or something.
[01:13:18]  That would be better than this.
[01:13:20]  That would be.
[01:13:20]  And Aziz and a Cesari.
[01:13:23]  What happened to that guy?
[01:13:24]  Did he get me too?
[01:13:25]  Oh, he got fake me too.
[01:13:28]  That was like when Me Too itself, like, that's when people were like, That was just like an essay that was like, Oh my god, I had bad sex with him.
[01:13:35]  Yeah, that was put his fingers in my mouth.
[01:13:38]  You know what was fucked up about that?
[01:13:40]  Was it was just like, I'm just gonna tell the world that Aziz Sanzari is bad at sex.
[01:13:45]  Yeah, which, like, of course he is, dude.
[01:13:47]  You had sex with Aziz and Azari.
[01:13:49]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:13:52]  Well, anyways, yeah, I don't know who this guy is, but I guess he's famous.
[01:13:57]  Uh, it's a one who wrote that article.
[01:14:00]  What article about Aziz?
[01:14:02]  What?
[01:14:03]  I'm kidding.
[01:14:04]  I'm just the joke's going on too long.
[01:14:05]  Yeah.
[01:14:06]  Yeah.
[01:14:07]  Wait, this says each podcast features Shepard and Padman interviewing celebrities as well as journalists and academics about, quote, the messiness of being human.
[01:14:16]  What the fuck is that?
[01:14:17]  Young Chomsky, can you hit me with the brace sound?
[01:14:19]  Thank you.
[01:14:21]  Anyway, so you know this podcast rocks because they got Hillary Clinton on, which, okay.
[01:14:30]  Oh, he was on the show Punked.
[01:14:32]  I forgot.
[01:14:33]  That's how he got famous.
[01:14:34]  Do you remember that show?
[01:14:34]  Punked?
[01:14:35]  I do recall punked.
[01:14:36]  I actually really don't want to talk about that.
[01:14:39]  You know what happened in there?
[01:14:40]  It's pathetic.
[01:14:41]  Okay, so this is what.
[01:14:42]  So Liz, actually, I want to say, I want to rat Liz out here.
[01:14:46]  Liz's notes for this, which are really long, by the way.
[01:14:50]  One of the bullet points is just pathetic.
[01:14:55]  That's one of the bullet points.
[01:14:56]  That's all it says.
[01:14:57]  It's just the word pathetic.
[01:14:59]  No, go on, sweetheart.
[01:15:00]  I don't want to interrupt you.
[01:15:03]  Okay, this is what Hillary says.
[01:15:06]  One of the most difficult transitions I ever had to go through was unexpectedly not becoming president.
[01:15:17]  Oh my god, me too, girl.
[01:15:19]  Yeah, for sure.
[01:15:20]  Wait, sorry, I have to read that again because it's so funny.
[01:15:23]  One of the most difficult transitions I ever had to go through was unexpectedly not becoming president because I thought I was.
[01:15:31]  I thought I was on the path to being the president.
[01:15:34]  Incredible, incredible sentence.
[01:15:36]  This woman, oh my god.
[01:15:37]  This dude, I'm sure Dax was probably like, nah, like, yeah, that's crazy.
[01:15:40]  He's like, oh man, so relatable, totally.
[01:15:42]  Wow, crazy.
[01:15:43]  Let's take a nod break real quick.
[01:15:45]  Yeah.
[01:15:47]  I had a very clear idea of what I wanted to do to deal with a lot of the serious problems we face.
[01:15:53]  Dude, shut up.
[01:15:56]  Like, you haven't been president for so long.
[01:15:58]  Who fucking care?
[01:16:00]  Joe Biden won and you lost.
[01:16:02]  That's so pathetic.
[01:16:04]  I'm sorry.
[01:16:05]  It's been four years.
[01:16:05]  Like, girl, you got to move on.
[01:16:08]  Oh, my God.
[01:16:09]  Like, your husband was president.
[01:16:10]  I'm sorry.
[01:16:11]  You both have to be president.
[01:16:13]  That's so funny.
[01:16:14]  It's just like starting to look a little like Desperado.
[01:16:17]  And but, like, it's like, you should mention.
[01:16:19]  Yeah.
[01:16:20]  It's like, what do you do now?
[01:16:22]  Like, what are you?
[01:16:23]  What's your day job?
[01:16:25]  Going on these fucking podcasts.
[01:16:26]  By the way, if you are, if Hillary Clinton, if you're listening, you should come on the podcast.
[01:16:30]  Would love to have you.
[01:16:31]  I would love to have you on the podcast.
[01:16:34]  Sorry, I had a jewel for that.
[01:16:35]  I had to blow out the jewel for that.
[01:16:37]  I would love to have you on the podcast.
[01:16:38]  I would love you to have you at my house.
[01:16:42]  This is what she says.
[01:16:43]  She said, for at least two years, very intensely at first, and then beginning to taper off.
[01:16:48]  Was she like fucking drugs?
[01:16:51]  Maybe.
[01:16:52]  People would come up and throw their arms around me and sob on my shoulder.
[01:16:56]  Wait, you can put your hands on Hillary Clinton.
[01:17:00]  Hold on.
[01:17:02]  Okay, that is going in the belly notes.
[01:17:06]  They would be there with tears streaming down their face.
[01:17:08]  There were a lot of young women who came up and apologized to me because they said they didn't vote because they said they didn't think I needed them to vote.
[01:17:18]  No one said that to him.
[01:17:19]  No one fucking said, no one's like, I'm so sorry I didn't vote.
[01:17:22]  Bitch.
[01:17:24]  Like, if you're sobbing because of Hillary Clinton, you definitely voted for her.
[01:17:29]  And you should be on a digital Bill Gates ass, like, microchip list.
[01:17:34]  Yeah, also, like, call your therapist immediately.
[01:17:36]  Yeah.
[01:17:37]  Also, it sounds like you're emotionally vulnerable.
[01:17:39]  Maybe you need a guy to talk to.
[01:17:41]  Yeah, call Brace immediately.
[01:17:43]  Yeah, I would love to talk to you if you cried.
[01:17:46]  You should come to his house.
[01:17:47]  Yeah, come to my house.
[01:17:48]  I've just keep you.
[01:17:52]  We're just going to keep this.
[01:17:54]  You know what?
[01:17:54]  This is a weird episode.
[01:17:56]  Call me white as he easily.
[01:18:01]  She goes on.
[01:18:02]  I really felt the weight of history, the weight of expectation.
[01:18:05]  The thousands of girls and young women who showed up to my events and they'd be wearing the nasty woman t-shirts.
[01:18:12]  Your husband's famous for being a rapist.
[01:18:16]  I also just never understood the nasty woman thing.
[01:18:18]  It's like, I don't want to be called that.
[01:18:20]  No.
[01:18:21]  Why would you be like, yeah, I remember when Trump said he schlonged?
[01:18:24]  Disgusting.
[01:18:25]  She got schlonged.
[01:18:27]  Her representative means anything you want it to mean.
[01:18:31]  That doesn't mean what you say.
[01:18:34]  Incredible.
[01:18:35]  But yeah, I never understood that.
[01:18:36]  It's like, no.
[01:18:37]  Why would you wear a shirt that's like, yeah, I'm horrible and everyone hates me?
[01:18:42]  Terrible.
[01:18:43]  Anyway, this is what she said on Kamala Harris winning, which, you know, the historic victory of Kamala Harris.
[01:18:50]  It made me feel really, really good.
[01:18:54]  That's also crazy.
[01:18:56]  That's a quote from Willie Brown, a famous suspect gangster, about getting a little bit of sloppy top from Kamala Harris, who is now the vice president of the United Nates of America.
[01:19:09]  Vice President-elect, Brace.
[01:19:12]  There's still time for old Donnie Deals to pull out one of his old tricks.
[01:19:15]  No, I told young Chauncey to put this thing out in three months.
[01:19:20]  Can you imagine that?
[01:19:21]  Just like it made me feel really good, you know, really good teeth.
[01:19:26]  God, the poor woman.
[01:19:27]  Apparently, she is on the short list for Biden's bullshit U.N. ambassador.
[01:19:32]  There's no, she's not gonna be, she's not gonna be that.
[01:19:34]  Would be so that's like that's actually like that's that would be cruel to her.
[01:19:41]  And I know it's Hillary Clinton, but that would be too mean.
[01:19:43]  I wouldn't feel good about that.
[01:19:44]  Yeah, we also should mention, even though this doesn't really have anything to do with Hillary, that I mean, it kind of does because Nira Tandon, who is basically like Hillary Clinton's, I don't know, like cheerleader.
[01:19:57]  Like, I think that woman has at least 10 to 15 alt accounts that just go after anyone that says anything negative about Hillary Clinton.
[01:20:06]  She's like a gerbils to Hillary's Hitler.
[01:20:13]  She's apparently she's going to be Biden's head of the OMB, which is the Office of Management and Budget.
[01:20:18]  I'll be honest, I'm not going to pretend to know what that is.
[01:20:20]  Yeah, it's okay.

=== Biden's Gerbil Hitler (04:52) ===

[01:20:21]  But I think it's so funny.
[01:20:24]  There's a couple things that are funny about this.
[01:20:25]  One, it's funny that anyone is like mad or like confused about why this would happen.
[01:20:31]  It's like, yeah.
[01:20:33]  I saw a bunch of people being like, I can't believe you're nominating Nira Tandon.
[01:20:37]  It's like, dude, it's Joe Biden.
[01:20:39]  What do you think is Nira Tana?
[01:20:40]  Probably has better politics than Joe Biden.
[01:20:44]  I mean, I think Joe Biden might be dead.
[01:20:47]  You think so?
[01:20:48]  I don't know.
[01:20:48]  He fell, right?
[01:20:49]  You mean the plan worked?
[01:20:51]  Yeah.
[01:20:51]  Anybody who's taken, if you're at the age where if you take a fall that like seriously affects your life, you're fucked.
[01:20:57]  Didn't he like hurt his ankle or something?
[01:20:59]  Yeah, he was playing with his dog.
[01:21:00]  He's probably trying to count absolutely not.
[01:21:04]  Yeah.
[01:21:04]  He probably fell down the stairs.
[01:21:06]  He's like, oh.
[01:21:07]  Here's my question.
[01:21:09]  Life alert.
[01:21:10]  I don't want to talk about Nira Tandon.
[01:21:11]  Who cares?
[01:21:11]  Everyone knows.
[01:21:12]  She sucks ass.
[01:21:14]  Don't care.
[01:21:15]  Who cares?
[01:21:16]  Do you think?
[01:21:17]  Okay, so Joe Biden.
[01:21:19]  Just real quick before we end this episode because we're going long.
[01:21:23]  If he were to die, how long do you think they would keep up that he was still alive?
[01:21:29]  Three days.
[01:21:30]  Absolutely.
[01:21:31]  At least three days.
[01:21:32]  Yeah.
[01:21:32]  That's good.
[01:21:33]  Okay.
[01:21:34]  What about if you fell and was like basically like incapacitated or brain dead?
[01:21:41]  Two weeks.
[01:21:43]  These are good phrases.
[01:21:44]  Doesn't make sense.
[01:21:45]  Yeah.
[01:21:45]  Yeah.
[01:21:46]  I've thought about this a lot because of the stuff I've been trying to do.
[01:21:49]  And it's like, absolutely.
[01:21:52]  Like, it would be, it would be a second.
[01:21:55]  I mean, it's going to happen.
[01:21:57]  Yeah.
[01:21:57]  I think he could die.
[01:21:59]  I think that Dr. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris battle.
[01:22:05]  Battle for the office.
[01:22:07]  Oh, yeah.
[01:22:08]  Because you know what?
[01:22:09]  If you die and you have a wife, your wife should get your job.
[01:22:14]  Well, get this.
[01:22:15]  So this is my idea.
[01:22:17]  So, okay.
[01:22:17]  So if I was writing this season, it would be that Dr. Joe Biden is like, okay, let's keep my president, my husband, my president-husband.
[01:22:28]  I can't talk.
[01:22:29]  I'm getting loopy.
[01:22:30]  Let's keep my president-husband in the coma, in the medical coma, because that means that I can, behind the scenes, assume the presidency.
[01:22:39]  Make the decisions.
[01:22:40]  Okay, so like.
[01:22:40]  Because we're keeping it under reps.
[01:22:42]  Now we've got Kamala who's like, nah, bitch.
[01:22:45]  I'm in line.
[01:22:46]  I'm vice president.
[01:22:47]  I'm the vice.
[01:22:48]  I'm Lady Vice.
[01:22:50]  VP.
[01:22:51]  But in order for her to get the presidency and get Dr. Jill out of there, they got to cut the cord with little Jesus.
[01:22:58]  But Jill's like, you may be VP, but I'm the VIP and I call the shots around here.
[01:23:03]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:23:03]  So then we got a little, you know, little cat fight.
[01:23:06]  Yeah, it would be crazy if Joe Biden got written out of this season because he got Me Too'd by like a 14-year-old boy and he fled to England.
[01:23:15]  Well, let's hope no one listened to the last maybe 35, 40 minutes of that episode because we'll be getting a lot of angry messages.
[01:23:42]  Do we say a bunch of shit?
[01:23:43]  It's fine.
[01:23:44]  I feel like Young Chomsky usually cuts everything out.
[01:23:47]  Just kidding.
[01:23:48]  We don't cut anything out.
[01:23:49]  We say it all here.
[01:23:51]  This is, you know, no holds barred here on True Anon.
[01:23:54]  Even the one time Liz said very funny.
[01:24:01]  Ha ha ha.
[01:24:03]  Yeah, I don't cut shit.
[01:24:05]  Only thing I cut is fucking foreskins at the bris, bitch.
[01:24:10]  I'm snipping and snapping.
[01:24:11]  I'm chomping and chimping.
[01:24:13]  I'm eating your fucking shit and spitting it out.
[01:24:18]  Fuck you.
[01:24:21]  Wow, we get weird when we just go on.
[01:24:24]  I drank a little bit of a bunch of people.
[01:24:25]  Do we all like this when we just talk?
[01:24:28]  You know what?
[01:24:29]  I don't know.
[01:24:30]  I can't tell.
[01:24:31]  You know what?
[01:24:31]  I can never figure out what's going on with the listeners.
[01:24:35]  You know what?
[01:24:35]  I'd like to hear from the listeners, but like I'd like to hear from them.
[01:24:39]  Absolutely.
[01:24:40]  Here, I have a phone number you can call.
[01:24:43]  It is 216-710-0050.
[01:24:49]  Call that number and tell them your opinion on Truan, the podcast.
[01:24:56]  With that, I'm Liz.
[01:24:58]  My name is Bracepelled.
[01:25:02]  And now we are joined by producer Young Chomsky.
[01:25:05]  And the podcast is called.
[01:25:08]  You thought I was going to do a little goof there, but no, the podcast is called Truan.
[01:25:12]  And we'll see you next time.